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Storis (1951) -- Discussion: Questions, Comments and Coordination
Posted: Thu Aug 13, 2020 8:56 pm
by Randi
On the weather page, please enter: date, locations, distances, courses, and all the weather data in the columns outlined in red in the spreadsheet.
It is not necessary to record Sea Conditions or Swells from.
However, ice mentioned in the weather grid should be transcribed using the magenta Sea columns.
On the events page please enter: ice, location information, and sailing information.
Aurorae and volcanic activity should also be reported.
Other events are optional.
One person can do both weather and events (Stream 1), but the system also allows one person to do the weather page (Stream 1) and a second person to do the events page (Stream 3).
Unlike in OW3, where three transcriptions were required for each page, we are doing only one transcription per page.
Every transcriber needs to enter the date.
The date is used to organize the pages.
(If one transcriber does events and weather and they are in the same image, the date is only entered once.)
No transcribing was done during the ice hunting phase, so a full transcription is needed for the entire year.
OW web site:
Storis
Direct links:
Re: Storis (1951) -- Discussion: Questions, Comments and Coordination
Posted: Fri Aug 14, 2020 1:53 am
by Randi
Pommy Stuart wrote:Sun Mar 15, 2020 8:07 pm
??? Should have stayed on the Northland, it's 8 degrees F this afternoon on the Storis.
Fortunately only a light wind.
Pommy Stuart wrote:Sun Mar 15, 2020 8:15 pm
Good afternoon Michael.
Whilst it is 7 degrees at your place, luck for you its in C not F. ;D
Pommy Stuart wrote:Sat Mar 21, 2020 8:01 pm
Starting to cool down a bit in Juneau, 2F, March 5th.
Michael wrote:Sat Mar 21, 2020 10:31 pm
That's nothing. On that same day, the low in Whitehorse was -37.8C and it was -40.6C on the 8th.
Pommy Stuart wrote:Sun Mar 22, 2020 6:07 am
OK you win. ???
At one stage some time ago I was considering doing Anchorage to Prudhoe Bay by car and back to Vancouver via Whitehorse. Not now.
Michael wrote:Sun Mar 22, 2020 1:50 pm
It would be a good drive. I would suggest, though, Vancouver - Prince George - Dawson Creek - Whitehorse - Stewart Crossing - Tuktoyakuk - Stewart Crossing - Dawson - Chicken - Fairbanks - Anchorage - Beaver Creek - Haines Junction - Haines - Skagway (Ferry) - Whitehorse - Watson Lake - Telkwa - Prince George - Vancouver. The Alaska Highway, the Dempster Highway, the Top of the World Highway and the Stewart-Cassiar. You could also take a wee diversion and do the North Canol from Ross River to the Yukon/NWT border. I also highly recommend Mike Mancini's pizza at Keno City, and Keno City is a great place to spend a day.
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/10/15/worl ... -city.html
Re: Storis (1951) -- Discussion: Questions, Comments and Coordination
Posted: Fri Aug 14, 2020 1:57 am
by Randi
Michael wrote:Tue Apr 14, 2020 9:42 pm
Those are badly written Bs
Pommy Stuart wrote:Fri Apr 17, 2020 5:40 am
Out looking for a lost DC-4 and then we seem to be towing lost scows into Yukatat.
No mention in log as to calling off search.
July - Aug
Pommy Stuart wrote:Fri Apr 17, 2020 11:40 pm
I wonder if anybody has contacted the Koreanwar site re the mention of the search in our logs. No help finding the aircraft but shows how someone was looking.
Michael wrote:Fri Apr 17, 2020 11:51 pm
I volunteer you! ;D
Pommy Stuart wrote:Sat Apr 18, 2020 2:51 am
Just done that.
Re: Storis (1951) -- Discussion: Questions, Comments and Coordination
Posted: Fri Aug 14, 2020 1:59 am
by Randi
Pommy Stuart wrote:Sat Apr 18, 2020 10:06 pm
Shades Concord still visible.
Docked at Juneau.
2250 17th CGD operations reported by telephone that FV Clarice ... was in sinking condition and immediate danger.
2304 LCVP departed to aid FV Clarice moored Juneau City Dock.
2317 LCVP returned to ship reported the FV Clarice had one (1) foot of water in the bilge and that the crew was in a state of intoxication.
Michael wrote:Sat Apr 18, 2020 11:31 pm
;D ;D ;D
Randi wrote:Sat Apr 18, 2020 11:43 pm
::) ::) ::)
Michael wrote:Sun Apr 19, 2020 12:00 am
I'm not sure why the Concord has such a bad name... Fake news, I guess. ;D
Hanibal94 wrote:Sun Apr 19, 2020 8:36 am
Thanks Stuart - I sure got a good laugh out of that one!
Michael wrote:Tue Apr 21, 2020 3:03 pm
In 1952 they go for three. ::)
Pommy Stuart wrote:Tue Apr 21, 2020 4:42 pm
I have got those as well but not quite as many. ::)
Re: Storis (1951) -- Discussion: Questions, Comments and Coordination
Posted: Fri Aug 14, 2020 2:03 am
by Randi
Michael wrote:Thu Apr 30, 2020 3:15 pm
Juneau, Juneau, Juneau. I just checked. Juneau is mentioned on 258 of the 365 days in 1951. Cape Spencer was mentioned on 28 days, Yakutat on 19 days, Ketchikan on only two. It sounds like they didn't stray too far that year. ::)
Pommy Stuart wrote:Thu Apr 30, 2020 8:05 pm
Well 1955 looks like the were on holiday visiting different places that year.
Michael wrote:Thu Apr 30, 2020 8:16 pm
You'll go to lots of places, but they'll all look pretty much the same: tundra, water and ice. ;D
Pommy Stuart wrote:Thu Apr 30, 2020 8:50 pm
and lots of clouds ::)
Re: Storis (1951) -- Discussion: Questions, Comments and Coordination
Posted: Fri Aug 14, 2020 2:07 am
by Randi
Michael wrote:Sat May 02, 2020 3:34 pm
The first five months of 1951, not including the trip to Seattle made at the end of May. Their excursion into the Gulf of Alaska was a habitat fishing patrol, and to two a crippled ship into Sitka.
Detail of the trips between Juneau and Cape Spencer. Imagine what this will look like when the voyages for the next seven months are added in.
Michael wrote:Sat May 02, 2020 3:57 pm
The difference made by considering all the course changes:
Before considering the sixteen course changes:
After factoring them in:
Michael wrote:Sat May 02, 2020 8:18 pm
I thought the remark at 0035 was interesting. Was this implying they haven't been using the International Rules of the Road up to now??? ;D ;D ;D
22 July 1951
0000-0400
Underway in Georgia Strait on the following course; 308 T & pgc making 180 rpms enroute to Juneau, Alaska; via Ketchikan, Alaska.
0035 Commenced using International Rules of the Road.
Pommy Stuart wrote:Sat May 02, 2020 8:29 pm
I missed that otherwise a comment like that is worth noting.
I will grant you the vessel courses does look a lot more at sea with all the cc done but from a point of view of the hourly weather does it make that much difference?
I think most people would mentally move the line with regard to seeing the actual course.
That said, it does look bust in some areas, maybe going overland would miss some of the traffic. ;D
Take a look at the first 10 days of Feb 1955 for a busy voyage. I worked on them a lot of each day.
It took me 5 days to do 100 pages entering about 2 or 3 location points from each events page plus the reqd 1 hourly and 8 hourly points. Finding all the CCs in that mass of words is hard (well for me it is).
When ICE is needed then you will get all CCs.
Randi wrote:Sat May 02, 2020 8:34 pm
Perhaps they changed systems because they went from American waters to Canadian waters? :-\
I can't view the pages at the moment :'( >:(
Michael wrote:Sat May 02, 2020 9:07 pm
I'm sure that's correct about moving into Canadian Waters - they crossed the border at that time, but that's the first time I've seen that referenced. It was especially significant after reading about all those destroyers crashing into the rocks off San Diego. I could just imagine all the other vessels sounding their horns as the Storis was heading north in the wrong lane and the captain suggesting that maybe they should follow the rules of the road before they got a dangerous driving ticket.
Kevin wrote:Sat May 02, 2020 10:46 pm
Ah, this is likely the transition from inland rules to international rules (beyond the territorial baseline). Which are annoyingly different. Some countries don't have inland rules I suppose 'cause it's kind of stupid anyway. But to make it better, there are three systems of buoyage -- A system, B system (red right return, and green right return) and Cardinal.
Re: Storis (1951) -- Discussion: Questions, Comments and Coordination
Posted: Fri Aug 14, 2020 2:10 am
by Randi
Michael wrote:Sun May 03, 2020 6:38 pm
Here's a better example, Stuart...
The log keeper records the course at the end of the hour, so if they go 12 miles in one hour and they head east for 59 minutes and north for 1. Without knowing the course changes, you would move the ship north by 12 miles not east.
Randi wrote:Sun May 03, 2020 7:22 pm
That comment describes the problem very clearly.
(Though it doesn't quite seem to match the images :-\)
Michael wrote:Sun May 03, 2020 7:35 pm
It was just an example.
These images show what happens when the course changes aren't considered.
There are other issues. If the ship changes from going east to going north at 1:00 PM, the log keeper should show the 1:00 PM course as East and the 2:00 PM course as North. Sometimes they show both the 1:00 PM and 2:00PM courses as North. Seeing the note in the Event log will alert me to that error on the log keeper's part.
Re: Storis (1951) -- Discussion: Questions, Comments and Coordination
Posted: Fri Aug 14, 2020 2:12 am
by Randi
Michael wrote:Sat May 09, 2020 4:05 pm
The voyage for 1951 is finally done. You can see the voyage
here, and you can download
the KML file, which can be viewed in Google Earth.
This voyage pushes us over 512,000 lines of data collected for OW Arctic.
Many thanks to Stuart who had to suffer dozens of trips to lighthouses in the northern part of the Alaskan Panhandle. There were at least 1500 course changes! Here is a small detail:
Randi wrote:Sat May 09, 2020 4:51 pm
Stuart and Michael
