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Unlocated places mentioned in logs
Posted: Wed Jun 17, 2020 9:56 pm
by AvastMH
A number of places will appear in the logs that are, as yet, not covered by the Geographical Help Board
Please post any mysteries here.
Please provide:
- The ship
- date
- url (web page link) for the log page image
- any other helpful information towards tracking the place mentioned
Re: Unlocated places mentioned in logs
Posted: Wed Jun 17, 2020 9:56 pm
by AvastMH
AvastMH wrote:Wed May 29, 2019 7:16 pm
Have not yet been able to find Goars Island:
Lucretia October 24th 1885
?side broack? (to confirm the 'o' in Goars)
Lucretia October 17th 1885
Goars Island
The previous day they passed 'Indian Point', now named 'Mys Chaplin'. General heading is S as they head for home at San Francisco.
The next day they are at Lat 59.23N Long 175.01W
Re: Unlocated places mentioned in logs
Posted: Wed Jun 17, 2020 9:57 pm
by AvastMH
propriome wrote:Fri May 31, 2019 7:27 am
Hi Joan!
The island of Saint Matthew was known also as Matwi, Choris, Goar's, Goer's, Gore's and Gowers island... should be the one you're looking for. St. Matthew name is found even on very old maps (older than 1885), therefore Goars must be quite an old name.
Only the "Gore's" variant is mentioned in the Geographic Dictionary of Alaska we have in reference thread.
See
https://www.davidrumsey.com/luna/servle ... 73~3002189
Added this alias to Geog Help Board db, so it's already available on owtools, will appear on the Alaska reference thread soon.
Re: Unlocated places mentioned in logs
Posted: Wed Jun 17, 2020 9:57 pm
by AvastMH
AvastMH wrote:Fri May 31, 2019 12:27 pm
You are a hero! I'd tried finding other names for St Matthews since it seemed to be pretty much where I reckoned the ship to be. I thought I'd checked all the charts too :-\ Trouble with the whalers is - they do a lot of place names phonetically. And a lot of them are old and do hark back to names that are relatively ancient.
Thanks Matteo!
Re: Unlocated places mentioned in logs
Posted: Wed Jun 17, 2020 9:58 pm
by AvastMH
AvastMH wrote:Sat Nov 30, 2019 8:44 pm
Re: Unlocated places mentioned in logs
Posted: Wed Jun 17, 2020 9:59 pm
by AvastMH
AvastMH wrote:Mon Feb 17, 2020 10:58 pm
Helen and Mary
12th Feb 1880
Two more for Helen and Mary. One I've sorted - Cape Pillow is Cape Pilar:
Cabo Pilar ca. 176 m
3876025
T CAPE cape
Chile CL ? Region of Magallanes 10
-52.71803, -74.68288
But School Bay I can't trace just now... 
Re: Unlocated places mentioned in logs
Posted: Mon Aug 02, 2021 7:34 pm
by AvastMH
Also posted in
China Station, Japan, Pacific and Indian Ocean -- Discussion
March 4th 1893 Wm Baylies
Kanila Bay
Karrila Bay
And on 6th March:
Karula Bay
(They speak to the Bk Horatio and Andrew Hicks at 8 PM that day - cannot trace those logs)
From there they try to go NW (light winds prevail)
On 7th March:
7PM the West part of Maui bore by Compass N 60 miles
I think that this Bay might well be on the west coast of Hawaii.
viewtopic.php?p=19668#p19668 Solution from Matteo
Re: Unlocated places mentioned in logs
Posted: Wed Aug 04, 2021 6:56 pm
by AvastMH
Another mystery place from Navarch
18th August 1894
Sand Islands
The ship left
Return Reef (at the Return Islands) and headed down to
Flaxman's Island passing 'Sand Islands on the way. There are many islands in that area but I could not trace Sand Island(s). The logkeeper's writing and spelling are not at all helpful
Re: Unlocated places mentioned in logs
Posted: Mon Feb 21, 2022 6:44 pm
by Shiplover
Have not been able to locate Cape Itcher (not sure of spelling, but Joan and I agree on this version) mentioned in the Log of the Alaska:
The first mention of the Cape is on 18910508:
https://archive.org/details/logboookofa ... 0/mode/1up
There is a second reference to the Cape on 18910510:
https://archive.org/details/logboookofa ... 0/mode/1up
Log entry for 18910511 mentions sighting Mountain Fairweather barring 60 miles NE. This would estimate the location of the Alaska on sighting Cape Itcher between Cape Fairweather and Harbor Pt.
https://archive.org/details/logboookofa ... 1/mode/1up
Snip from
David Rumsey Map Collection.
