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General shipyard page. Ice sections now completed.

Posted: Tue Apr 14, 2020 6:12 pm
by ggordon
The basic principle of OldWeather Whaling....
The reason for this project is that it is very hard to automatically sort the navigation and ice (and other specific items) from blocks of text. Having such pulled out and associated by line with date/time/position and page url offers the most effective means of turning text into actionable data. It also means that the data can be sorted in all kinds of ways.


If you have a doubt about an entry you can always come back to this principle, and/or ask for help on your whaler's Shipyard page.
This main principle will also appear on every Shipyard page.

Additional information can typically include the following which are entered on the remarks worksheet.
  • natural phenomena (volcanoes, kelp, sun spots, auroras)
  • crew names
  • the names of other ships seen or visited
  • reports of ice from other ships
  • whaling details
  • other animals seen
Where to start then? Have fun while you work and please do enjoy the help that is always available here from the moderators, in fact from everyone. And do also feel welcome to join in some of the lighter hearted side of OldWeather in the forum found in the Dockside Cafe under Shore Leave.

You will also bump into the OldWeather Arctic project which also extracts weather and ice details from the ships of the US Navy and Coast Guard. Your help with OldWeather Arctic would also be most welcome!

General shipyard page. Ice sections now completed.

Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2020 5:55 am
by ggordon
Welcome on board the 'Lucretia 1884 to 1885'. Her voyage starts on the Nov 29th 1884 and ends on Nov 5th 1885


The ice sections of the voyage of the 'Lucretia 1884 to 1885' from Nov 29th 1884 and ending on Nov 5th 1885 have been completed. Thank you all!

Once all ice sections of the log list have been completed we will return to the non-ice sections.

You can find more ships in this listing: Find your ship, & the full list of ships logbooks for OWW Your help will be very much appreciated. If you need help in choosing a journey please do leave message here or contact AvastMH. :)


Here you will find an example transcription of details
This is also a place to ask questions and request help with oddities in the log
You can bring the ship to life by sharing interesting finds from the log pages and other information about the ship

General help with marking and transcribing whaling logs
Weather and ice records from the whaling ships of the USA which contains the following 'must read' topics... Tip: use ctrl+Pgup or ctrl+PgDn to quickly swap between the different worksheets as you move through start, primary, weather, and remarks sheets to record your findings

Treasure trove of information in the Library
Over the years this forum has accumulated a broad spectrum of detailed information which is kept in the Library
Please do take time to visit the Library because it will afford you a great deal of help. However, do feel welcome to ask questions at any time.

Help with images
  • If you want to query some text please supply the page reference (the reference changes as you view the middle of a page), and an image of the text if you wish. Help for manipulating/posting images can be found in Guide to posting links and images. If you have any problems with imaging this is the board to post that question.
  • Accessing pale images. The example page used below, opened through the 'Irfan' program, 'color correction' and adjust the brightness, saturation, and gamma correction. You may have your own program for adjusting brightness and contrast. Here are the before and after images using Irfan. Click to see them at full size.
Names of the crew
Names of the crew and notes of other ships mentioned or visited can also be recorded. Lucretia 1884-1885, crew and ships met

To find the shipyard pages for other whalers
Link: Find your ship, & the full list of ships logbooks for OWW


Select 'view single page':
When the log book image opens you will see two pages. It is easier to read the details accessing one page at a time. Use the icons at the bottom of the screen:
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You can walk through Lucretia's log pages in chronological order. All you have to do is increment the number at the end of the link, for example: page/2, page/3, page/4 etc.



Here is a log page that has been transcribed to help you to be familiar with the writing.
September 1st 1885 to September 9th 1885

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Tuesday Sep 1th
all this day fine weather with lite breese
from the Eward Bark crusing along the
ice to Eward of the Point

Wednesday Sep 2th
all this day strong breese with fog bids
ENE Bark crusing along the ice at 3PM
stood in to the Point and anchored
So ends

Thursday Sep 3th
all this day strong breese with fog
bids ENE Bark at anchor
So ends

Friday Sep 4th
all this day fresh breese bids NE with
fog stood out to the ice cruised all
day at 7PM anchored
So ends

Saturday Sep 5th
all this day thick fog from ENE
Bark at anchor SW of the Point
So ends

Sunday Sep 6th
all this day thick fog from NE
Bark at anchor SW of the point

Monday Sep 7th
first and middle part fog and rain
from NE at 7AM took the anchor
stood to N cruised all day spoke Belena
at 7PM anchored SW of the Point
So ends

Tuesdday Sep 8th
all this day fresh breese from NNE
with fog at 5AM got under way worked
to Eward at 8PM anchored
So ends

Wednesday Sep 9th
all this day fresh breese from NE
got under way worked to Eward
along the ice spoke Belvedere cutting
So ends


Here is a transcription of the above log page. Click on the worksheet images below to see them at full size.

Start worksheet
If you discover any metadata in the logbook please enter it on this page. Metadata means 'data about data'. See under 'Weather' at rows 32 and 33. For example, if you see that the temperature is in Celsius or Centigrade, that fact should be transcribed as metadata.

Click on the worksheet images below to see them at full size.



Primary worksheet


Weather worksheet


Remarks worksheet


Notes
  • Never interpret words, and never correct spellings. If you are at all unsure please do post a question here, or in the 'Hand writing help, and spelling' topic, to resolve the correct transcription.
    For example, the log keeper sometimes uses the word 'bids', or 'bides' immediately before noting the wind direction. It appears to be interchangeable with 'from'. You only need to note the wind direction in the transcription so you can omit 'bids', 'bides' and 'from'.
    Here are examples showing 'bids' and 'from' in use from her previous journey:
    Wednesday 21st May and Thursday 22nd May 1884
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Notes continued
  • Ground ice is a particular phenomenon of ice formation and should be transcribed by entering '1' in the Sea Ice column and entering 'ground' in the ice description column.
  • Mention of other animals. You can enter those details in the Remarks worksheet. For example, this log mentions 26 walrus on Aug 17 1885.
  • Natural phenomena: volcanoes, kelp, sun spots, auroras into the Remarks worksheet and note it in the forum page for Natural Phenomena

Re: Shipyard page. Example transcription, general questions and answers

Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2020 4:59 pm
by ggordon
Reserved

Re: Shipyard page. Example transcription, general questions and answers

Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2020 5:01 pm
by ggordon
AvastMH wrote:Wed May 29, 2019 6:47 pm Lucretia 14th October 1885

There are times when your head just gets things mixed up. Seems like the logkeeper is keeping his mind on the business of the day as they reach Cape Prince of Wales :D

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Re: Shipyard page. Example transcription, general questions and answers

Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2020 5:03 pm
by ggordon
AvastMH wrote:Wed May 29, 2019 7:07 pm Have not yet been able to find Goars Island:

Lucretia October 24th 1885
?side broack? (to confirm the 'o' in Goars)
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Lucretia October 17th 1885
Goars Island
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The previous day they passed 'Indian Point', now named 'Mys Chaplin'. General heading is S as they head for home at San Francisco.
The next day they are at Lat 59.23N Long 175.01W

Re: Shipyard page. Example transcription, general questions and answers

Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2020 5:03 pm
by ggordon
AvastMH wrote:Fri May 31, 2019 12:30 pm Goar's Island solved - thanks to Matteo :)
propriome wrote:Fri May 31, 2019 7:27 am Hi there!

The island of Saint Matthew was known also as Matwi, Choris, Goar's, Goer's, Gore's and Gowers island... should be the one you're looking for. St. Matthew name is found even on very old maps (older than 1885), therefore Goers must be quite an old name.
Only the "Gore's" variant is mentioned in the Geographic Dictionary of Alaska we have in reference thread.

See https://www.davidrumsey.com/luna/servle ... 73~3002189

Added this alias to Geog Help Board db, so it's already available on owtools, will appear on the Alaska reference thread soon.