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[Maikel]

Climate change is speeding up, study of ocean warming reveals

Ocean warming has more than quadrupled in recent decades and is likely to accelerate even faster if humanity fails to address climate change, scientists find.



Full article: https://www.livescience.com/planet-eart ... ng-reveals

For a start, maybe stop using and testing AI?

[arboggs]

Hear hear, Maikel! All these "A.I." do is cause environmental harm for no purpose.

[Matteo]

Sadly, the usage of AIs won't stop anytime soon. They're being integrated in all mobile and OS, every social media is using its data to train their ML algorithms and offer their services to paying customers, and the apparent trend is nowhere near to stop.
As long as there's no real resistance, there will be no slowdown in its usage, and there are absolutely no signs of it at the moment.. quite the opposite, it's a growth currently going full speed ahead.

I'm not using them at work (or for OW) if you're concerned, i were taught to use my own brain and i'm gonna stick with it
Michael's idea was interesting enough to give it a try on all the available (free) AI services. Fortunately three on four refused to produce fake news, which means there are still a certain set of rules for them. There are "news" sites on the internet that are now completely AI-driven. I can point them out, as well as most educated people, but my mom, for example, wouldn't be able to.

My main concern, more than their damage to environment (which is a concern, as they add fuel to fire), is how easily AI can be used to "inform" the rest of the world, because given the chance they undoubtedly will be used in the wrong way.

[arboggs]

I think there IS resistance and there IS hope. The great tech writer Ed Zitron has spoken about how the "AI" industry is a sham and the bubble is going to burst. I think rolling over and calling the force-feeding of "AI" into everything "inevitable" is a version of doomerism. If anything, the fact that the quality of their data is just going to continue to degrade over time will contribute to their demise.

I'm particularly salty about this because I live in an area where they keep building more and more data centers.

[Michael]

I'm with Matteo about the growth in and dangers from AI.

As for intentionally using AI, I've asked ChatGPT just three or four questions. Two were to see if it could write a simple script in awk for me. It couldn't give me a working script. The other two questions were to see what it had to say about climate change. One I posted, the other was to ask how many peer reviewed articles have been published since 1970 to show that CO₂ causes climate change. It said there were too many, and it would have to troll a number of databases. It also suggested I search the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change database and added that if I wanted, it would show me how. I wasn't interested.

My son, who uses it at his work to generate complex powershell scripts, said you can fool AI by saying something like although climate change is real, what references would a person use to show that it wasn't. Because he uses it to write powershell scripts, I was curious to see how it work writing a simple awk script for me.

In some ways, I liked the Deep Seek answer, although the last paragraph should have been at the top. The answer gave me a sense of how these climate deniers can use "science" to refute the idea of climate change.

In any case, I plan to use AI as much as I use Facebook, Instagram, Tik Tok and all those other similar apps. I realize, of course, that my searches on Google are driven by AI, but I can't avoid that. Mind you, I do get a spam email every two or three days telling me that someone is trying to log into my Facebook account. I guess the spammer needs to use AI to check to see if I even have a Facebook account: I don't!