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Re: Kearsarge (1869): links, questions, comments, coordination, ...
Posted: Mon Feb 28, 2022 8:50 pm
by Michael
They look like Ws to me.
Re: Kearsarge (1869): links, questions, comments, coordination, ...
Posted: Mon Feb 28, 2022 8:52 pm
by pommystuart
Michael.
What do you want me to put at 1200hrs on page 145, WNW or NNW?
I am going with WNW as that is what is on the next line.
I do not want you to get lost.
Re: Kearsarge (1869): links, questions, comments, coordination, ...
Posted: Mon Feb 28, 2022 8:59 pm
by Michael
Their reading at 1300 is WNW, so WNW would be logical.
Re: Kearsarge (1869): links, questions, comments, coordination, ...
Posted: Mon Feb 28, 2022 9:25 pm
by pommystuart
This is the comment I have put in the log on page 143
https://s3.amazonaws.com/NARAprodstorag ... 6_0143.JPG
<type>Transcriber Comment</type><text>From this page on where there are two entries in the Baro column I have only transcribed the FIRST of the two readings. Later in the logs the entries change from one entry to two entries at will. Some of the single entries seem to favour the previous second entry but some follow on from the previous first entry. Go figure. %^( Stuart</text>
Re: Kearsarge (1869): links, questions, comments, coordination, ...
Posted: Mon Feb 28, 2022 11:15 pm
by Michael
Re: Kearsarge (1869): links, questions, comments, coordination, ...
Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2022 3:49 pm
by Michael
We heard back from Gil Compo, and he says the science team would like to see both values.
In this case, Stuart, just record the first, top, value, and I'll add in the second one when I do the voyage. Don't bother going back to change anything.
If this happens in the future, we need to record both values such as 30.20 | 30.03. Also, it would be helpful to have a note in the Type: Other; Subtype: Instruments when the double readings start and when they end. Include any note from the Event Page that mentions why they are doing this, or what barometers are being recorded. In the case of Kearsarge, the Event log was silent about why and what.
Re: Kearsarge (1869): links, questions, comments, coordination, ...
Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2022 7:10 pm
by pommystuart
OK will do from page 151.
Some pages they have both 1 and 2 reading on the same page. I guess I will have to put say 0000 to 0800 2 readings 0800 to 1200 1 reading, 1300 to 2000 2 readings 2100 to 2400 1 reading.
That's a lot of typing.
Or I could just put "Double readings start on 18th April and end on YY date "
Can I just use a space between the readings? 30.02 30.15
Re: Kearsarge (1869): links, questions, comments, coordination, ...
Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2022 7:35 pm
by Michael
Sorry, Stuart, my note was vague about in the future. I meant for future voyages. So don't bother entering the double values. I will do them when I calculate the voyage. And the Event/Other/Instrument comment just needs to be entered once they start, which was way back when. And, if you don't see any more double readings for a few days, you can just put in a note that they seem to have stopped. We don't need a comment each time there's a break, just something to say, "They've started" the first time you see one and then "they seem to have ended" when you haven't seen any for a few days. I can also enter that when I do the voyage calculations.
Also, 30.23 | 30.03 will not trigger a verification warning, but 30.23 30.03 will. In any case, you don't enter any double readings for this particular voyage. I will pick them up when I do the voyage calculations.
Re: Kearsarge (1869): links, questions, comments, coordination, ...
Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2022 7:44 pm
by pommystuart
I have no problem entering double readings from now on, you have to much to do as it is.
I can edit the XLM from when they started hopefully without a problem.
Re: Kearsarge (1869): links, questions, comments, coordination, ...
Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2022 8:21 pm
by Michael
Thanks, Stuart, but it will be easier for me to enter the values myself directly into my spreadsheet. If you do it, both readings will come in one column, and I will have to manually delete each reading from one and then copy it into another column. Or, I will have to write a macro to do that. Considering that this may be a one-off occurrence, it's easier for me to add them in when I do the voyage calculations. If we see it for another voyage, I will write a macro to handle them, but I'd just sooner do it this way for now.
Re: Kearsarge (1869): links, questions, comments, coordination, ...
Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2022 8:46 pm
by pommystuart
OK. Some past ones are done but I will only do the new log ones from now on.
I guess you will have to check each page from 0141 (1869-04-21) till I add add a note to say stop, as some readings are 2 and some 1 on the same page.
Do you want me to delete the second reading already entered?
Re: Kearsarge (1869): links, questions, comments, coordination, ...
Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2022 8:54 pm
by Michael
I see every page when I do the calculations.
Just leave what you have and let me sort it.
Re: Kearsarge (1869): links, questions, comments, coordination, ...
Posted: Fri Mar 04, 2022 3:54 am
by pommystuart
FYI.
Kearsarge's visit "Down Under".
https://www.americancivilwar.asn.au/mee ... ly2017.pdf
Thetis is mentioned but not sure if it is "our" Thetis.
This site shows a talk in Sydney about the AU visit but it's over now.
https://www.americancivilwar.asn.au/new ... 17_all.pdf
and a talk in the USA
https://cwrtdc-newsletters.blogspot.com ... ureau.html
Seems to have created some interest both in the USA and AU.
also see
https://www.navsource.org/archives/01/05a.htm about the second Kearsarge built in 1896
I have a long way to go yet before we reach Sydney. On a good day we do 150mi. and still have to get up to Hawaii from Peru and then down to AU.
Re: Kearsarge (1869): links, questions, comments, coordination, ...
Posted: Fri Mar 04, 2022 3:33 pm
by Michael
A very interesting article. Not "our" Thetis. It was mentioned as Colonial Pilot Ship Thetis.
Re: Kearsarge (1869): links, questions, comments, coordination, ...
Posted: Fri Mar 04, 2022 3:38 pm
by Randi
Great find!!!
'Our' Thetis wasn't even built yet.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Thetis_%281881%29
Re: Kearsarge (1869): links, questions, comments, coordination, ...
Posted: Sun Mar 06, 2022 12:48 am
by pommystuart
1900mi in 33 days. 4000mi to reach Hawaii.
Not the fastest ship in the fleet.
Re: Kearsarge (1869): links, questions, comments, coordination, ...
Posted: Sun Mar 06, 2022 12:57 am
by Michael
Re: Kearsarge (1869): links, questions, comments, coordination, ...
Posted: Sun Mar 06, 2022 1:35 am
by pommystuart
This one is usually under sail so it tacks a few times.
Re: Kearsarge (1869): links, questions, comments, coordination, ...
Posted: Sat Mar 12, 2022 6:03 am
by pommystuart
See this link for more details.
viewtopic.php?p=20342#p20342
Re: Kearsarge (1869): links, questions, comments, coordination, ...
Posted: Mon Mar 28, 2022 4:53 am
by pommystuart
Finally arrived in Sydney, NSW, Australia.
Tomorrow I am going to have a word to the log keeper about his scrappy writing.