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Re: Yantic (1881): links, questions, comments, coordination, ...
Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2022 7:26 pm
by pommystuart
Found Sept 27th is Page 189 between Oct 1st and Oct 2nd.
It will show up as yantic-vol36of67_
18811002_
0189_21DF335A.xml
The real Oct 2nd is
yantic-vol36of67_
18811002_
0190_D3AF44AE
I want my pay back now!
Re: Yantic (1881): links, questions, comments, coordination, ...
Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2022 7:45 pm
by pommystuart
Any help with the letter in wx column after b at 1600?
https://s3.amazonaws.com/NARAprodstorag ... 7_0191.JPG
Re: Yantic (1881): links, questions, comments, coordination, ...
Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2022 8:12 pm
by Michael
q for squalls. You can see his wind speed 3-5.
Re: Yantic (1881): links, questions, comments, coordination, ...
Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2022 8:14 pm
by Randi
At 1
500 I would guess bq. The events page does mention squalls.
Michael beat me
Re: Yantic (1881): links, questions, comments, coordination, ...
Posted: Fri Nov 11, 2022 10:50 pm
by pommystuart
My apoligies.
It is the one above the Bq. Looks like bY
I had mq for the line below.
Forgor about my screen being one up.
This is a new scribe since landing in NY, his d looks like an s
Re: Yantic (1881): links, questions, comments, coordination, ...
Posted: Fri Nov 11, 2022 10:55 pm
by Randi
I read the PM weather by symbol as:
bc
"
bq
mq
bc
"
"
"
"
"
"
"
Re: Yantic (1881): links, questions, comments, coordination, ...
Posted: Fri Nov 11, 2022 11:09 pm
by pommystuart
Good Evening Randi, (from a very sunny and hot Australian morning.) You can look forward to a nice Saturday.
All other q's have been closed loop which threw me with the open loop.
I don't think one letter will change the climate predictions to much so I will put q.
Re: Yantic (1881): links, questions, comments, coordination, ...
Posted: Sat Nov 12, 2022 12:08 am
by Michael
Re: Yantic (1881): links, questions, comments, coordination, ...
Posted: Sat Nov 12, 2022 3:06 am
by pommystuart
More of those double number wind force like 5.8, 7.7, 7.7, 4.7
and a 2.3.4 entry on next page.
Re: Yantic (1881): links, questions, comments, coordination, ...
Posted: Sat Nov 12, 2022 2:24 pm
by Michael
The log keeper is just too lazy to use a -. So, 2.3 should be entered as 2-3.
Re: Yantic (1881): links, questions, comments, coordination, ...
Posted: Sat Nov 12, 2022 8:59 pm
by ggordon
One of the log keepers on my current Shenandoah log did the same thing, using periods instead of dashes for wind force. I transcribed them as dashes since that was clearly what was intended and I was concerned that there might be a problem processing the data if I used periods.
Re: Yantic (1881): links, questions, comments, coordination, ...
Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2022 1:29 am
by Michael
Yes. 2.4 means 2-4.
Code | Description | Range | Mean |
2 | Light breeze | 4–6 knots | 5 |
3 | Gentle breeze | 7–10 knots | 8 |
4 | Moderate breeze | 11–16 knots | 14 |
So, what does 2.4 mean? Is it 4/10 of the way between 2 and 3? I don't think so.
I checked with the science team and they want 2-4 to be (5+14)/2 = 9.5 => 10. When you think that these wind speeds are just estimated, you can understand that it's like horseshoes and nukes. Close is good enough.
Re: Yantic (1881): links, questions, comments, coordination, ...
Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2022 2:22 am
by pommystuart
You are all missing my point.
It's not the entrys with different numbers with a . between that's puzzling me, it's what something like
7.7 means.
See 6 and 7 am. entrys
Also 8pm 2.3.4 why not 2.4?
https://s3.amazonaws.com/NARAprodstorag ... 7_0193.JPG
Whilst I am at it, any suggestions for wind dir ar 0900 on this page?
https://s3.amazonaws.com/NARAprodstorag ... 7_0194.JPG
Re: Yantic (1881): links, questions, comments, coordination, ...
Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2022 9:52 am
by Hanibal94
Random guess: The wind went from 7 to 6 or 8, and then back to 7, all within one hour.
2.3.4 was a case where the wind was 3 for a significant period of time, and didn't just jump straight from 2 to 4.
Looks like W to me (both 9 AM and 9 PM), as it's the same shape as the first W in WSW for wind dir at 5 PM.
Re: Yantic (1881): links, questions, comments, coordination, ...
Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2022 5:58 pm
by Michael
I agree with Hanibal about the numbers, and probably the wind wind direction. Legibility was not your man's strong point!
Re: Yantic (1881): links, questions, comments, coordination, ...
Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2022 7:52 pm
by pommystuart
Thanks folks.
I can live with those answers.
Re: Yantic (1881): links, questions, comments, coordination, ...
Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2022 6:04 am
by pommystuart
Finished
Re: Yantic (1881): links, questions, comments, coordination, ...
Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2022 2:40 pm
by Michael
Re: Yantic (1881): links, questions, comments, coordination, ...
Posted: Thu Dec 08, 2022 12:56 am
by Michael
It's interesting to me to see how various places were called. On 18 February, we were in Halifax, Nova Scotia, British Province. On the 19
th, we were in Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada. I think the use of Canada by the log keeper was just his own idea. There was no country called Canada until July 1, 1867.
Canada wasn't applied to Nova Scotia until Confederation. Nova Scotia was part of the French Colony of Acadia. It was also called Annapolis Royal for a while. The British Province/colony called Canada was split in 1791 into Upper and Lower Canada, with Upper Canada referring to parts of what is now the province of Ontario. The name Ontario was given to these lands at Confederation.
Between 1534 and 1763, Quebec was called Canada and was the most developed colony in New France. Following the Seven Years' War, Quebec became a British colony: first as the Province of Quebec (1763–1791), then Lower Canada (1791–1841), and lastly Canada East (1841–1867), as a result of the Lower Canada Rebellion. It was confederated with Ontario, Nova Scotia, and New Brunswick in 1867, beginning the Dominion of Canada.
Re: Yantic (1881): links, questions, comments, coordination, ...
Posted: Thu Dec 08, 2022 1:13 am
by Randi
However, you are presently in 1881, so there would be a Canada