Kearsarge (1869): links, questions, comments, coordination, ...
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They look like Ws to me.
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Michael.
What do you want me to put at 1200hrs on page 145, WNW or NNW?
I am going with WNW as that is what is on the next line.
I do not want you to get lost.
What do you want me to put at 1200hrs on page 145, WNW or NNW?
I am going with WNW as that is what is on the next line.
I do not want you to get lost.
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Their reading at 1300 is WNW, so WNW would be logical.
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This is the comment I have put in the log on page 143
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<type>Transcriber Comment</type><text>From this page on where there are two entries in the Baro column I have only transcribed the FIRST of the two readings. Later in the logs the entries change from one entry to two entries at will. Some of the single entries seem to favour the previous second entry but some follow on from the previous first entry. Go figure. %^( Stuart</text>
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<type>Transcriber Comment</type><text>From this page on where there are two entries in the Baro column I have only transcribed the FIRST of the two readings. Later in the logs the entries change from one entry to two entries at will. Some of the single entries seem to favour the previous second entry but some follow on from the previous first entry. Go figure. %^( Stuart</text>
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We heard back from Gil Compo, and he says the science team would like to see both values.
In this case, Stuart, just record the first, top, value, and I'll add in the second one when I do the voyage. Don't bother going back to change anything.
If this happens in the future, we need to record both values such as 30.20 | 30.03. Also, it would be helpful to have a note in the Type: Other; Subtype: Instruments when the double readings start and when they end. Include any note from the Event Page that mentions why they are doing this, or what barometers are being recorded. In the case of Kearsarge, the Event log was silent about why and what.
In this case, Stuart, just record the first, top, value, and I'll add in the second one when I do the voyage. Don't bother going back to change anything.
If this happens in the future, we need to record both values such as 30.20 | 30.03. Also, it would be helpful to have a note in the Type: Other; Subtype: Instruments when the double readings start and when they end. Include any note from the Event Page that mentions why they are doing this, or what barometers are being recorded. In the case of Kearsarge, the Event log was silent about why and what.
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OK will do from page 151.
Some pages they have both 1 and 2 reading on the same page. I guess I will have to put say 0000 to 0800 2 readings 0800 to 1200 1 reading, 1300 to 2000 2 readings 2100 to 2400 1 reading.
That's a lot of typing.
Or I could just put "Double readings start on 18th April and end on YY date "
Can I just use a space between the readings? 30.02 30.15
Some pages they have both 1 and 2 reading on the same page. I guess I will have to put say 0000 to 0800 2 readings 0800 to 1200 1 reading, 1300 to 2000 2 readings 2100 to 2400 1 reading.
That's a lot of typing.
Or I could just put "Double readings start on 18th April and end on YY date "
Can I just use a space between the readings? 30.02 30.15
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Sorry, Stuart, my note was vague about in the future. I meant for future voyages. So don't bother entering the double values. I will do them when I calculate the voyage. And the Event/Other/Instrument comment just needs to be entered once they start, which was way back when. And, if you don't see any more double readings for a few days, you can just put in a note that they seem to have stopped. We don't need a comment each time there's a break, just something to say, "They've started" the first time you see one and then "they seem to have ended" when you haven't seen any for a few days. I can also enter that when I do the voyage calculations.
Also, 30.23 | 30.03 will not trigger a verification warning, but 30.23 30.03 will. In any case, you don't enter any double readings for this particular voyage. I will pick them up when I do the voyage calculations.
Also, 30.23 | 30.03 will not trigger a verification warning, but 30.23 30.03 will. In any case, you don't enter any double readings for this particular voyage. I will pick them up when I do the voyage calculations.
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I have no problem entering double readings from now on, you have to much to do as it is.
I can edit the XLM from when they started hopefully without a problem.
I can edit the XLM from when they started hopefully without a problem.
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Thanks, Stuart, but it will be easier for me to enter the values myself directly into my spreadsheet. If you do it, both readings will come in one column, and I will have to manually delete each reading from one and then copy it into another column. Or, I will have to write a macro to do that. Considering that this may be a one-off occurrence, it's easier for me to add them in when I do the voyage calculations. If we see it for another voyage, I will write a macro to handle them, but I'd just sooner do it this way for now.
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OK. Some past ones are done but I will only do the new log ones from now on.
I guess you will have to check each page from 0141 (1869-04-21) till I add add a note to say stop, as some readings are 2 and some 1 on the same page.
Do you want me to delete the second reading already entered?
I guess you will have to check each page from 0141 (1869-04-21) till I add add a note to say stop, as some readings are 2 and some 1 on the same page.
Do you want me to delete the second reading already entered?
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I see every page when I do the calculations. Just leave what you have and let me sort it.
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FYI.
Kearsarge's visit "Down Under".
https://www.americancivilwar.asn.au/mee ... ly2017.pdf
Thetis is mentioned but not sure if it is "our" Thetis.
This site shows a talk in Sydney about the AU visit but it's over now.
https://www.americancivilwar.asn.au/new ... 17_all.pdf
and a talk in the USA
https://cwrtdc-newsletters.blogspot.com ... ureau.html
Seems to have created some interest both in the USA and AU.
also see https://www.navsource.org/archives/01/05a.htm about the second Kearsarge built in 1896
I have a long way to go yet before we reach Sydney. On a good day we do 150mi. and still have to get up to Hawaii from Peru and then down to AU.
Kearsarge's visit "Down Under".
https://www.americancivilwar.asn.au/mee ... ly2017.pdf
Thetis is mentioned but not sure if it is "our" Thetis.
This site shows a talk in Sydney about the AU visit but it's over now.
https://www.americancivilwar.asn.au/new ... 17_all.pdf
and a talk in the USA
https://cwrtdc-newsletters.blogspot.com ... ureau.html
Seems to have created some interest both in the USA and AU.
also see https://www.navsource.org/archives/01/05a.htm about the second Kearsarge built in 1896
I have a long way to go yet before we reach Sydney. On a good day we do 150mi. and still have to get up to Hawaii from Peru and then down to AU.
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A very interesting article. Not "our" Thetis. It was mentioned as Colonial Pilot Ship Thetis.pommystuart wrote: ↑Fri Mar 04, 2022 3:54 am FYI.
Kearsarge's visit "Down Under".
https://www.americancivilwar.asn.au/mee ... ly2017.pdf
Thetis is mentioned but not sure if it is "our" Thetis.
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Great find!!!
'Our' Thetis wasn't even built yet.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Thetis_%281881%29
'Our' Thetis wasn't even built yet.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Thetis_%281881%29
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1900mi in 33 days. 4000mi to reach Hawaii.
Not the fastest ship in the fleet.
Not the fastest ship in the fleet.
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As I remember, they don't always sail in a "straight" line where straight means along a great circle.
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This one is usually under sail so it tacks a few times.
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Finally arrived in Sydney, NSW, Australia.
Tomorrow I am going to have a word to the log keeper about his scrappy writing.
Tomorrow I am going to have a word to the log keeper about his scrappy writing.