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Title: Storis (1944) -- Discussion: Questions, Comments and Coordination
Post by: Randi on January 14, 2018, 10:19:06 am
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June and July have Burton/Staten Island pre-July-1955 format


Voyage plots:
     1944_Spring (https://drive.google.com/open?id=1_AVhrxCoKGP3Z507Nz2rEtN8D9HIKWvT)
     1944_Summer (https://drive.google.com/open?id=1BOOavuKbZxKq2wOreP9SD4tZ_6wkpyKo)
Title: Re: Storis (1944) -- Discussion: Questions, Comments and Coordination
Post by: Randi on January 14, 2018, 10:21:02 am
Ice Hunting Guide (http://forum.oldweather.org/index.php?topic=4690.0)
Using the Tracker for Ice Hunting (Provisional) (http://forum.oldweather.org/index.php?topic=4821.0)
Ask Questions Here (http://forum.oldweather.org/index.php?topic=4826.0)
Note: Currently we only want the months that have a green stripe on the month tab in the Tracker and only one transcription is required per page.


Bob's web site: Storis (https://sites.google.com/view/owfaq/ships/shipyard/storis)

Direct links
Title: Re: Storis (1944) -- Discussion: Questions, Comments and Coordination
Post by: Randi on January 14, 2018, 10:45:50 am
Reserved
Title: Re: Storis (1944) -- Discussion: Questions, Comments and Coordination
Post by: Randi on January 14, 2018, 10:45:56 am
Reserved
Title: Re: Storis (1944) -- Discussion: Questions, Comments and Coordination
Post by: Pommy Stuart on January 25, 2018, 11:08:02 am
Started looking at this year in the NOAA pages.
Storis in Greenland.
Ice in Jan so now using the SS.
Title: Re: Storis (1944) -- Discussion: Questions, Comments and Coordination
Post by: Michael on January 25, 2018, 01:20:16 pm
The Atlantic boats will always find ice unless they are well south of Newfoundland and Iceland.  ;)
Title: Re: Storis (1944) -- Discussion: Questions, Comments and Coordination
Post by: Pommy Stuart on January 25, 2018, 08:11:08 pm
Finished Jan.
Left Greenland (lots of ice, but all in same area)
On way back to US, just off Nufi and spotted some ice.
Title: Re: Storis (1944) -- Discussion: Questions, Comments and Coordination
Post by: Pommy Stuart on January 25, 2018, 09:59:53 pm
When on Greenland patrol, which ports classes as Start and End of Voyage port? Boston for end in Feb 1944?
Title: Re: Storis (1944) -- Discussion: Questions, Comments and Coordination
Post by: Joke Slayer on January 26, 2018, 04:07:20 am
Personally I've been using Boston and Casco Bay

So far I've seen ice while in port in Newfoundland;
for example in 1600-2000 watch
https://catalog.archives.gov/OpaAPI/media/38547995/content/dc-metro/rg-026/587169/2017-01/storis-wmec-38-1943/storis-wmec-38-1943_0040.JPG

So probably shouldn't use ports in Newfoundland as beginning/end of voyages (at least until it gets warmer  :P)
Title: Re: Storis (1944) -- Discussion: Questions, Comments and Coordination
Post by: Randi on January 26, 2018, 06:20:43 am
I think the rule is mainland USA or Hawaii.
Title: Re: Storis (1944) -- Discussion: Questions, Comments and Coordination
Post by: Michael on January 26, 2018, 08:53:55 am
Yes, it is. Icebergs can move very far south along the east coast of Canada and the US.
Title: Re: Storis (1944) -- Discussion: Questions, Comments and Coordination
Post by: Pommy Stuart on January 26, 2018, 11:41:25 am
Consider it to be so.
Back in Boston 8 Feb.

I am on leave for a week starting today.

Title: Re: Storis (1944) -- Discussion: Questions, Comments and Coordination
Post by: Michael on January 26, 2018, 01:19:14 pm
Quote from: Pommy Stuart on January 26, 2018, 11:41:25 am
Consider it to be so.
Back in Boston 8 Feb.

I am on leave for a week starting today.

Have fun! We'll be waiting for your return!  ;D
Title: Re: Storis (1944) -- Discussion: Questions, Comments and Coordination
Post by: Pommy Stuart on January 28, 2018, 03:44:33 pm
Jan, March and April had ICE
Feb only one day off NFLD with ice.
Title: Re: Storis (1944) -- Discussion: Questions, Comments and Coordination
Post by: Pommy Stuart on February 03, 2018, 03:38:52 pm
Anybody know what "Foxes" are?
See 00-04 Line 3. Starboard "foxes" streamed.
https://catalog.archives.gov/OpaAPI/media/38547996/content/dc-metro/rg-026/587169/2017-01/storis-wmec-38-1944/storis-wmec-38-1944_0268.JPG (https://catalog.archives.gov/OpaAPI/media/38547996/content/dc-metro/rg-026/587169/2017-01/storis-wmec-38-1944/storis-wmec-38-1944_0268.JPG)

Title: Re: Storis (1944) -- Discussion: Questions, Comments and Coordination
Post by: Randi on February 03, 2018, 03:48:36 pm
Maybe foxer: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foxer
Title: Re: Storis (1944) -- Discussion: Questions, Comments and Coordination
Post by: Pommy Stuart on February 03, 2018, 06:38:31 pm
Sounds like the beast to me, the ship is activating the de-gaussers as well.
What a difference a letter makes.
Thanks.
Title: Re: Storis (1944) -- Discussion: Questions, Comments and Coordination
Post by: Randi on February 03, 2018, 07:00:19 pm
Quote from: Randi on September 26, 2012, 11:01:02 am
Degaussing "At the start of WWII, the Germans developed a new magnetic trigger for mines- one based on the mine's sensitivity to the magnetic field of a ship passing nearby. ... The effort to defeat these magnetic mines took several forms. One such approach was to attempt to negate the magnetic signatures of metal ships through a process known as "degaussing,"" - http://www.eaglespeak.us/2007/11/sunday-ship-history-degaussing-ships.html
;)
Title: Re: Storis (1944) -- Discussion: Questions, Comments and Coordination
Post by: Pommy Stuart on February 04, 2018, 02:26:35 pm
Unusual choice of location (east coast of Greenland at Dead Mans Bay) for that type of operation wouldn't you think and at his age?
16-20 hrs, line 2

https://catalog.archives.gov/OpaAPI/media/38547996/content/dc-metro/rg-026/587169/2017-01/storis-wmec-38-1944/storis-wmec-38-1944_0311.JPG (https://catalog.archives.gov/OpaAPI/media/38547996/content/dc-metro/rg-026/587169/2017-01/storis-wmec-38-1944/storis-wmec-38-1944_0311.JPG)
Title: Re: Storis (1944) -- Discussion: Questions, Comments and Coordination
Post by: Michael on February 04, 2018, 02:49:46 pm
Quote from: Pommy Stuart on February 04, 2018, 02:26:35 pm
Unusual choice of location (east coast of Greenland at Dead Mans Bay) for that type of operation wouldn't you think and at his age?
16-20 hrs, line 2

https://catalog.archives.gov/OpaAPI/media/38547996/content/dc-metro/rg-026/587169/2017-01/storis-wmec-38-1944/storis-wmec-38-1944_0311.JPG (https://catalog.archives.gov/OpaAPI/media/38547996/content/dc-metro/rg-026/587169/2017-01/storis-wmec-38-1944/storis-wmec-38-1944_0311.JPG)

Maybe not if he's in his fifties or sixties.
Title: Re: Storis (1944) -- Discussion: Questions, Comments and Coordination
Post by: Pommy Stuart on February 04, 2018, 03:37:16 pm
In Young Sound Greenland.

0203 - Moored to ice berg taking on fresh water from ice berg. (no mention of taking on ice for the officers drinks  ;D )
1412 - Unmoored from ice berg after taking on 5900 gallons fresh water.
Title: Re: Storis (1944) -- Discussion: Questions, Comments and Coordination
Post by: Pommy Stuart on February 06, 2018, 12:04:46 pm
We ended up with some German prisoners from the Northland.
No mention where they were from or where they were going.
https://catalog.archives.gov/OpaAPI/media/38547996/content/dc-metro/rg-026/587169/2017-01/storis-wmec-38-1944/storis-wmec-38-1944_0372.JPG (https://catalog.archives.gov/OpaAPI/media/38547996/content/dc-metro/rg-026/587169/2017-01/storis-wmec-38-1944/storis-wmec-38-1944_0372.JPG)

Maybe they were from the German weather station at Cape Sussie in Greenland that the USS Northland had discovered in July 1944.
(Thanks for the web link Randi)

I am only a few pages further on and we are still at sea.
Title: Re: Storis (1944) -- Discussion: Questions, Comments and Coordination
Post by: Randi on February 07, 2018, 09:36:55 pm
From a link Stuart sent me...

Perhaps this event that happened after Cape Sussie...
Quote from: http://histomil.com/viewtopic.php?t=9768
The German High Command sent three new expeditions to Greenland in a desperate effort to establish a presence in this icy wasteland. These three teams of scientists, soldiers, and their weather forecasting equipment would give the Germans vital information which might stave off the defeat of the Third Reich. Only the cutters of the Greenland Patrol stood in their way.

On 1 September 1944, off the coast of Greenland, the Northland located the first of the three new German expeditions. After a brief chase, the Germans scuttled their vessel and the Coast Guardsmen rescued all 28 who had been on board safely.

Coming up...
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On 6 October 1944 Southwind, under the command of one of the world's foremost oceanographers, Commander Richard M. Hoyle, joined Eastwind. Thomas organized a search pattern for each cutter as they continued sailing north. The Storis later rendezvoused with the icebreakers to transport the prisoners and the booty back to Iceland.
Title: Re: Storis (1944) -- Discussion: Questions, Comments and Coordination
Post by: Pommy Stuart on February 11, 2018, 04:13:31 pm
Moving Captured German equipment for voyage back to USA.
https://catalog.archives.gov/OpaAPI/media/38547996/content/dc-metro/rg-026/587169/2017-01/storis-wmec-38-1944/storis-wmec-38-1944_0453.JPG (https://catalog.archives.gov/OpaAPI/media/38547996/content/dc-metro/rg-026/587169/2017-01/storis-wmec-38-1944/storis-wmec-38-1944_0453.JPG)

Unloading Captured German equipment, Boston,Mass (18-11-1944)

Also
Not often you get lat/Long almost the same. (10 Nov 1944, 0800)
51 55n, 51 53w. Just short of 3 miles from matching.
Title: Re: Storis (1944) -- Discussion: Questions, Comments and Coordination
Post by: Pommy Stuart on February 11, 2018, 05:34:36 pm
Waiting for Hanibal to finish Sept then 1944 is all over to you Michael.
Title: Re: Storis (1944) -- Discussion: Questions, Comments and Coordination
Post by: Hanibal94 on February 12, 2018, 12:53:29 pm
Quote from: Pommy Stuart on February 11, 2018, 05:34:36 pm
Waiting for Hanibal to finish Sept then 1944 is all over to you Michael.

Done and uploaded.
Only a few mentions of ice.
Title: Re: Storis (1944) -- Discussion: Questions, Comments and Coordination
Post by: Michael on February 12, 2018, 04:33:48 pm
OK. Transcription Progress spreadsheet has been updated.  :)
Title: Re: Storis (1944) -- Discussion: Questions, Comments and Coordination
Post by: Pommy Stuart on February 16, 2018, 12:26:20 pm
Coincident of names?

14 Oct 1944, Eastwind transfered the previously captured 11 POWs to the USS Storis.
https://catalog.archives.gov/OpaAPI/media/24428007/content/dc-metro/rg-026/587169/0001-A1/Eastwind-WAG-279-1944/Eastwind-WAG-279-1944_0197.JPG (https://catalog.archives.gov/OpaAPI/media/24428007/content/dc-metro/rg-026/587169/0001-A1/Eastwind-WAG-279-1944/Eastwind-WAG-279-1944_0197.JPG)

Was there ever a USS Storis? I could not find one.
Title: Re: Storis (1944) -- Discussion: Questions, Comments and Coordination
Post by: Randi on February 16, 2018, 12:31:10 pm
Confusion of title ;D
Storis is a Coast Guard ship (USCGC), but in time of war the Coast Guard ships are under Navy control, so officially she is USS.
Title: Re: Storis (1944) -- Discussion: Questions, Comments and Coordination
Post by: Pommy Stuart on February 16, 2018, 12:49:36 pm
Thanks.
Those yanks never make things easy for us foreigners.  ;)
Title: Re: Storis (1944) -- Discussion: Questions, Comments and Coordination
Post by: Michael on February 18, 2018, 09:33:14 am
14 January 1944

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0000 Backing and filling in order to break through very heavy ice approximately 24 to 30 inches in thinckness. Speed of advance approximately 3/4 knots.

His logged distances for the hours on this trip up the fjord are 9.5 to 10 knots. His actual progress is in the range of 1/2 to 3/4 knots.  You can see why it is so tricky trying to plot his voyage with discrepancies like this.  ;D
Title: Re: Storis (1944) -- Discussion: Questions, Comments and Coordination
Post by: Randi on February 18, 2018, 09:49:37 am
But I'm sure you will sort it out ;)
Title: Re: Storis (1944) -- Discussion: Questions, Comments and Coordination
Post by: Pommy Stuart on February 18, 2018, 12:13:33 pm
I guess it is like burning rubber in a car, the speedo says 30mph and the car moves 0.1mph.
Thats why when I can I throw in some extra brgs and place locations from the events page. (Arn't I just sooo nice?  ;D )
Good luck Michael.
Title: Re: Storis (1944) -- Discussion: Questions, Comments and Coordination
Post by: Michael on February 18, 2018, 01:19:33 pm
Quote from: Pommy Stuart on February 18, 2018, 12:13:33 pm
I guess it is like burning rubber in a car, the speedo says 30mph and the car moves 0.1mph.
Thats why when I can I throw in some extra brgs and place locations from the events page. (Arn't I just sooo nice?  ;D )
Good luck Michael.

That's why I really need those locations. As the real estate people say, "Location, location, location!"
Title: Re: Storis (1944) -- Discussion: Questions, Comments and Coordination
Post by: Michael on February 28, 2018, 07:01:24 pm
The second (https://drive.google.com/open?id=1BOOavuKbZxKq2wOreP9SD4tZ_6wkpyKo), and very long, voyage of Storis in 1944 has been completed.

Title: Re: Storis (1944) -- Discussion: Questions, Comments and Coordination
Post by: Pommy Stuart on February 28, 2018, 09:58:24 pm
Ah I remember it well.  ;D