Do you really want every name posted here? Or by 'letters or other misc' did you mean anything inserted into the log books that isn't a log page?
A whole bunch of names:
Pte Warman RMLI joined ship from barracks.
Mid Taylor RNR joined ship.
Stoker Warbuton brought aboard under arrest from London (no additional specifics were given).
September 19th, 1917. Liverpool.
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ADM_53-53483/ADM%2053-53483-006_0.jpg (http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ADM_53-53483/ADM%2053-53483-006_0.jpg)
Do you really want every name posted here? Or by 'letters or other misc' did you mean anything inserted into the log books that isn't a log page?
A report of what was onboard a civilian steamer named "Zaire". The ship and all of its cargo is apparently legit, but a few of the passengers didn't make the grade and were taken into custody.It was HMS Europa.
Thanks for showing it to us. What ship are you on that had this?
Thank you.A report of what was onboard a civilian steamer named "Zaire". The ship and all of its cargo is apparently legit, but a few of the passengers didn't make the grade and were taken into custody.It was HMS Europa.
Thanks for showing it to us. What ship are you on that had this?
Attachment to log of HMS "Ophir" recording boarding of a Danish ship and removal of 2 Germans.Thank you, dorbel. That one is very short and tidy.
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ADM_53-53372/ADM%2053-53372-015_1.jpg
A report of what was onboard a civilian steamer named "Zaire". The ship and all of its cargo is apparently legit, but a few of the passengers didn't make the grade and were taken into custody.:) Did I not post a link? The ship is Europa
Thanks for showing it to us. What ship are you on that had this?
It's called being absent-minded. ;) Very common (and embarassing) among the intelligent who are concentrating on a different task.
It's very odd, because the only way I can think of that it might have gotten there is, as Janet suggested, someone at the Archive put it in Una's log book as a book mark. But why would they use that? I would think they'd treat any old document as important.
I am not sure if this kind of page has been posted somewhere else or if it is the right place to post.
It is a great help to see how logs had to be kept.
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ADM_53-37518/ADM%2053-37518-004_0.jpg
Not quite sure if this is what you want, but...
H.M.S. Birmingham - 20 Jan 1920 7:30 AM
Cautioned Mr. Joseph Fraser, Gunner (T) for improper performance of his duty as warrant officer landed with Fire Party on Jan 18th 1920. [signed] J. Fraser [and] A.G. Crawford
(There were brush fires near Simonstown (Union of South Africa) that threatened the RN Hospital and Sanatorium. Two fire control crews, a fire demolition crew, and finally a fire guard crew were sent.)
They did say they were interested in discipline. Do you have a .jpg link for that page?Not quite sure if this is what you want, but...
H.M.S. Birmingham - 20 Jan 1920 7:30 AM
Cautioned Mr. Joseph Fraser, Gunner (T) for improper performance of his duty as warrant officer landed with Fire Party on Jan 18th 1920. [signed] J. Fraser [and] A.G. Crawford
(There were brush fires near Simonstown (Union of South Africa) that threatened the RN Hospital and Sanatorium. Two fire control crews, a fire demolition crew, and finally a fire guard crew were sent.)
That is lovely, in that it's rare to log the subject of any court. The incident wouldn't be in your logs, as whenever possible they hold all courts aboard a ship whose crew is not involved in the incident. I don't know why the RN started that custom, but as a plant manager I can promise that it is much kinder to the morale of your ratings and workers, and less stressful on the court.Was that a practice started after 1915, by any chance? I'm asking, because I'm pretty sure that after my ship had its collision with another ship, there was a log entry which said the enquiry people had come on board. And there were several other ships in Glasgow at the time which weren't directly involved in the incident...
HMS Cadmus February 1914 At Tatung
1st 11:00 Assistant Paymaster A B de Veulle placed under arrest
2nd Early A.M. reported missing, ship searched but not found
in log pages 5th Return of death (presumed) of A B de Veulle
I have produced a .jpg image of the return, if of interest where should I post it
LGB
HMS Cadmus February 1914 At Tatung
1st 11:00 Assistant Paymaster A B de Veulle placed under arrest
2nd Early A.M. reported missing, ship searched but not found
in log pages 5th Return of death (presumed) of A B de Veulle
I have produced a .jpg image of the return, if of interest where should I post it
LGB
Can someone explain (to us landlubbers) what "observations" are being recorded? One of the headings has been marked, "Bearing of a transit of two Islands"?I found this older answer to a recurring question. They are figuring out what deviations are needed to calculate a true compass direction from a magnetic compass in a steel ship.
Magnetic variation is the difference between true north (geographic north) and magnetic north. Deviation is the difference between magnetic north and ships compass north. It is due to the distortion of the magnetic field as it passes through the vaviaous metal parts of the ship before it gets to the compass. Thus variation is different for every compass point on which the ship steers. When a ship comes out of dock she has her compass "Swung" which entails swinging the ship around a known point so that she points at at marks ashore the true direction of which is also known. A deviation table is then compiled. It follows that the table is applicable only to that specific ship at that specific time.
Hope I'm not teaching people to suck eggs........
Can someone explain (to us landlubbers) what "observations" are being recorded? One of the headings has been marked, "Bearing of a transit of two Islands"?I found this older answer to a recurring question. They are figuring out what deviations are needed to calculate a true compass direction from a magnetic compass in a steel ship.Magnetic variation is the difference between true north (geographic north) and magnetic north. Deviation is the difference between magnetic north and ships compass north. It is due to the distortion of the magnetic field as it passes through the vaviaous metal parts of the ship before it gets to the compass. Thus variation is different for every compass point on which the ship steers. When a ship comes out of dock she has her compass "Swung" which entails swinging the ship around a known point so that she points at at marks ashore the true direction of which is also known. A deviation table is then compiled. It follows that the table is applicable only to that specific ship at that specific time.
Hope I'm not teaching people to suck eggs........
This should be posted in "letters" but the fate of Samuel Herbert Lang P.O.2 Cl. R.F.R must be known here.
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Location: Ras Serani Lt.Ho. Bearing N13?W 6 1/2', ship turned to E.S.E.
Rest In Peace Samuel Herbert Lang.
"7.30 All [Mercantile] engineroom ratings"
I think this means civilians working for the navy; they drafted so very many commercial ships into the navy, I'm not surprised they had to draft their crews at the same time.
And some of them, apparently, didn't like working for the navy. I don't think they're going to enjoy the consequences of their rebellion any more than that.
"11.00 One man joined ship from [Devonport?]"
Devonport in Plymouth is one of the main home ports and barracks and depots.
from HMS Southampton, a "map" of the ship:
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Interesting note from the Trent - a general servant sentenced to 1 month's leave stopped for breaking his leave.
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This list of "Gear Lost Overboard During Passage From Plymouth to Bermuda" was inserted in the Curlew's log and scanned with the page for Dec 21st, 1922. Interesting!
Interesting note from the Trent - a general servant sentenced to 1 month's leave stopped for breaking his leave.
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ADM%2053-63492/ADM%2053-63492-014_0.jpg (http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ADM%2053-63492/ADM%2053-63492-014_0.jpg)
The 2-month book is probably an original log, the 1-month book pobably a copy log. This doubling up is not uncommon when both types of logs are used on the ship - please transcribe both, it helps the team.Oh, I already did that a month ago.;) I just thought it might be helpful to mention it here. It hasn't happened again in the two years since then, though.
As already reported by Janet from my earlier plea for help, HMS Kinfauns Castle's log from September 1914 only scans half of each log page. To get the complete picture you either need to transcribe each day twice, one with weather and lat/long location and one with date, port and events; or sometimes copy the weather readings onto paper, 'finish' the page and transcribe the previously noted weather data together with the remainder and events etc. This is ok if somewhat laborious, but now I have this....Best I could do and it still be readable, was paste the top half and the bottom half together separately. (I do really like my Capture program, that lets me position stickies for composites! :) )
Left side: http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ADM_53-45698/ADM%2053-45698-066_0.jpg &
Right side: http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ADM_53-45698/ADM%2053-45698-066_1.jpg
Absolutely no chance of transcribing this letter, so hoping the 'team' can do something with the scans. Thanks.
HMS Curlew
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(I accidently posted the edit pages earlier).
Hi MutabilitieI only remember the Manica running aground and being towed away (and I think we spotted the Thistle later and they said they didn't want any help - muppets). But I don't think there was any detailed mention of how it happened in the log. Hang on, I'll try to look it up...
It could be interesting to know how H.M.S. Manica and H.M.S. Thistle got aground. :)
Edit: Yes, as I remembered. There's a detailed account of what happened after they ran aground, but that's it:
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Edit2: And here's the Thistle turning down our offer of help:
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From the log of Cadmus, 31 January, 1918
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The first time I have seen such detail in a warrant
"Warrant for 7 days cells read by Lieut Redgrove against S Sims Sto 1st class S.S."
LGB
I'm impressed! That's the first time I've seen someone transcribe one of the charts! :)
If that's what interests you, go for it. I did that for a number of routine things just to fully comprehend what I'm reading. But, FYI, compass deviations depend on the metal distribution within the ship, not on its location or the weather.
7 Deserters for trial sentenced 90 days detention.
(also several transfers of prisoners)
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HMS Avoca, 12 April 1917, Esquimalt B.C.
Busy day...
Lamptrimmer Melrose (Mercantile rating) in cells refusing duty.
prisoner Melrose taken from cell. placed in sick bay.
This may not be of any value, but on the second page preceding 1 July 1920 in HMS Moorhen was the following note:
"Rough log lost overboard during heavy squall night 31st July - 1st Aug
Copy of log had at the time, been only completed to 15th July. Remainder is
made out from Navigating Officer's notebook."
Here is the page:
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Jeff
I think these are associated with post #232
http://www.oldweather.org/classify/edit/4deadd131d29f3764100663b
http://www.oldweather.org/classify/edit/4deadd2a1d29f3764100663c
I think these are associated with post #232
http://www.oldweather.org/classify/edit/4deadd131d29f3764100663b
http://www.oldweather.org/classify/edit/4deadd2a1d29f3764100663c
I think these are associated with post #232
http://www.oldweather.org/classify/edit/4deadd131d29f3764100663b
http://www.oldweather.org/classify/edit/4deadd2a1d29f3764100663c
Wrong addresses!
I think these are associated with post #232
http://www.oldweather.org/classify/edit/4deadd131d29f3764100663b
http://www.oldweather.org/classify/edit/4deadd2a1d29f3764100663c
The links seem to be the ones for your edits, not the links to the page images. Could you re-post?
16 April 1917
Roxburgh is in Bermuda, and has been for some weeks.
The disciplinary entries relating to Mr Dodd seem unusual in that the entry has been repeated in red with minor changes to the original entry, the date of the offence is different and the original includes "statement".
The entry in red appears to have been added 3 months after the event, presumably when the log reached London
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lgb
16 April 1917
Roxburgh is in Bermuda, and has been for some weeks.
The disciplinary entries relating to Mr Dodd seem unusual in that the entry has been repeated in red with minor changes to the original entry, the date of the offence is different and the original includes "statement".
The entry in red appears to have been added 3 months after the event, presumably when the log reached London
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ADM%2053-58513/ADM%2053-58513-011_0.jpg
lgb
16 April 1917
Roxburgh is in Bermuda, and has been for some weeks.
The disciplinary entries relating to Mr Dodd seem unusual in that the entry has been repeated in red with minor changes to the original entry, the date of the offence is different and the original includes "statement".
The entry in red appears to have been added 3 months after the event, presumably when the log reached London
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ADM%2053-58513/ADM%2053-58513-011_0.jpg
lgb
I note that JJ did not include her comment so I shall risk putting words into her posting.
Apart from the missing "statement", the surname of the offender is changed from "Dodd" in the original note to "Todd" in the amendment. That seems a good reason for correcting the log.
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I haven't seen too much of these.
I'd guess that the log-keeper made himself a note with numbers while far from the logbook, and then stuck it between the pages forgetting to transfer the info. It was probably a very busy day! ;DThat makes sense, thanks!
This is very interesting:I like the idea of extra cocoa lgb
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The instrument page for "Victorian" in the October 1916 log records the use of both mercurial and aneroid barometers, the entries for the aneroid to be taken at noon and entered in red.
Apart from the reference, should both entries be recorded and if so how should they be differentiated?
I confess that in the past I have disregarded the entry in red, mea culpa, mea multima culpa, please can I have the lashing after tea?
lgb
Well, I don't know what they are doing on that page, but please enter all the observations, even if very dubious.
If you think an entry has been crossed out or otherwise marked as bad, just ignore it, otherwise please enter all the observations. If there are two observations for the same hour, please enter both of them as separate entries: that is put in one observation as normal, then click again in almost the same place, and enter the second version of any measurements with two entries. If in doubt, please put in both measurements.
And thanks for mentioning the problem - sorting out double entries is much easier if they are flagged up in advance.
Philip
HMS Bee:
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The expert hands of a perruquier.We used to have one but sadly it contracted psittacosis
I can't see the join.
The expert hands of a perruquier.We used to have one but sadly it contracted psittacosis
I can't see the join.
lgb
Need help with this one
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"Entered the name of Mr Alfred Holmes. Royal Navy. Gunner(T) for that he was drunk on board on the night of The 24th December 1918: also that he disobeyed the order of Commander R.C.C Smart Royal Navy on the night of The 24th Dec 1918. to go to his cabin"
Need help with this one
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ADM53-37525/ADM53-37525-0016_0.jpg
"Entered the name of Mr Alfred Holmes. Royal Navy. Gunner(T) for that he was drunk on board on the night of The 24th December 1918: also that he disobeyed the order of Commander R.C.C Smart Royal Navy on the night of The 24th Dec 1918. to go to his cabin"
Hi, tchai,
It pains me to admit that I can't find fault with your transcription. Not even I can improve on perfection. What is more, you posted the url correctly, which isn't always the case.
Nicely done. (Is this really your first post or have you changed your name? ;D )
Regards
Bunts
]Need help with this one
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ADM53-37525/ADM53-37525-0016_0.jpg
"Entered the name of Mr Alfred Holmes. Royal Navy. Gunner(T) for that he was drunk on board on the night of The 24th December 1918: also that he disobeyed the order of Commander R.C.C Smart Royal Navy on the night of The 24th Dec 1918. to go to his cabin"
Hi, tchai,
It pains me to admit that I can't find fault with your transcription. Not even I can improve on perfection. What is more, you posted the url correctly, which isn't always the case.
Nicely done. (Is this really your first post or have you changed your name? ;D )
Regards
Bunts
Thank you
This is my first post because I just figured out a way to log in the forum >:(
I translated a lot for HMS Rinaldo but there's not a lot of action there.
From Challenger, I think mid 1914 (I've just got to April 1919 when she was paid off and suspect I'm being shifted back to do the odd pages left over from earlier) - one of the pages in the log which doesn't usually have anything filled in. But here there are the speeds under different conditions, and a few entries for times when the usual consumption was exceeded, but with no reasons given.The increase in coal consumption at 17 knots is quite staggering, you can see why their lordships were so keen to ask for this report. lgb
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ADM53-69573/ADM53-69573-002_1.jpg
Yes, the log has just started at 14th July 1914, at Devonport.
From Challenger, I think mid 1914 (I've just got to April 1919 when she was paid off and suspect I'm being shifted back to do the odd pages left over from earlier) - one of the pages in the log which doesn't usually have anything filled in. But here there are the speeds under different conditions, and a few entries for times when the usual consumption was exceeded, but with no reasons given.The increase in coal consumption at 17 knots is quite staggering, you can see why their lordships were so keen to ask for this report. lgb
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ADM53-69573/ADM53-69573-002_1.jpg
Yes, the log has just started at 14th July 1914, at Devonport.
Just woken up by noisy owl, and got to wondering about the effect the higher speeds and rate of coal burning would have had on the stokers, so I made a cup of tea and looked again at the figures - they don't stack up as exceptional! Even so the question remains:From Challenger, I think mid 1914 (I've just got to April 1919 when she was paid off and suspect I'm being shifted back to do the odd pages left over from earlier) - one of the pages in the log which doesn't usually have anything filled in. But here there are the speeds under different conditions, and a few entries for times when the usual consumption was exceeded, but with no reasons given.The increase in coal consumption at 17 knots is quite staggering, you can see why their lordships were so keen to ask for this report. lgb
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ADM53-69573/ADM53-69573-002_1.jpg
Yes, the log has just started at 14th July 1914, at Devonport.
On one such form (probably HMS Ribble, of which you may have heard) there was a diagonal line through the "Reasons" and "Remarks" columns and a note written along the lines of "War time conditions. Not applicable". Perhaps this arrangement was in place, following the Sarajevo business on 28th June in anticipation of 4th August.
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The most curious little note I have seen. It follows immediately after a page from Persian Empire, so this is most likely to be from her, but equally could be from Perth or just someone else who handled the log scrawling some sort of note.
I have tried to transcribe the main bit of writing. This is the best I can do.
"Have you anything to report. I am taking the weymouth with ?me? following round the area with you remain on the mail route if you have to come up close to me I will give you some ~ ~. We have a sealed envelope for yo the base for you. "
Perhaps it is someone taking down a signal received in morse?
Then in ink the words Chiswick and War Glen.
I shrugged these off before, but now there seems to be greater interest, so:
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HMS Cicala, 10th November 1920:
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At 7 am, it turns out the gunboat was in Canton because some orders were decoded wrongly.
A major mistake by Sub-Lt Rackley on the HMS Cicala being reprimanded:HMS Cicala, 10th November 1920:
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At 7 am, it turns out the gunboat was in Canton because some orders were decoded wrongly.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radio#History and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_radio
History: 19th century
...Early radio designs could not transmit sound or speech and were called the "wireless telegraph".
In 1912, the RMS Titanic sank in the northern Atlantic Ocean. After this, wireless telegraphy using spark-gap transmitters quickly became universal on large ships. In 1913, the International Convention for the Safety of Life at Sea was convened and produced a treaty requiring shipboard radio stations to be manned 24 hours a day. A typical high-power spark gap was a rotating commutator with six to twelve contacts per wheel, nine inches (229 mm) to a foot wide, driven by about 2000 volts DC. As the gaps made and broke contact, the radio wave was audible as a tone in a Magnetic detector at a remote location. The telegraph key often directly made and broke the 2000 volt supply. One side of the spark gap was directly connected to the antenna. Receivers with thermionic valves became commonplace before spark-gap transmitters were replaced by continuous wave transmitters.
I've always assumed that all wireless messages to ships in foreign waters were coded - and that all were in morse code. It's a matter of security as much as technology. But I found this on radio history:Quotehttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radio#History and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_radio
History: 19th century
...Early radio designs could not transmit sound or speech and were called the "wireless telegraph".
In 1912, the RMS Titanic sank in the northern Atlantic Ocean. After this, wireless telegraphy using spark-gap transmitters quickly became universal on large ships. In 1913, the International Convention for the Safety of Life at Sea was convened and produced a treaty requiring shipboard radio stations to be manned 24 hours a day. A typical high-power spark gap was a rotating commutator with six to twelve contacts per wheel, nine inches (229 mm) to a foot wide, driven by about 2000 volts DC. As the gaps made and broke contact, the radio wave was audible as a tone in a Magnetic detector at a remote location. The telegraph key often directly made and broke the 2000 volt supply. One side of the spark gap was directly connected to the antenna. Receivers with thermionic valves became commonplace before spark-gap transmitters were replaced by continuous wave transmitters.
It also says vacuum tube receivers didn't replace the old (weak) crystal sets or long range telegraphy receivers until 1920-21.
HMS Patuca, 6th December 1915 - only half a page scanned
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Probably 7th December - half page scanned
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No indication of date, and the page seems to have had a page pasted over it
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Another half page, and this is in fact December 7th:
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HMS Curlew - 8 October 1921 - collision with Chinese junk provoked this reprimand from the Captain:
"Had occasion this day to caution Lt. Comdr. Alan K ~~Halliday ~~ RN to be more careful in future in his conduct as OOW, he having sunk a fishing sampan whilst affecting to pass through the Fishing Fleet at too high a speed and having failed to comply with Articles 20, 22, and 28 of the Regulations for the Prevention of Collisions at Sea. (signed by )??, Captain"
Not sure what this is, but it's pasted onto the page for 19th December 1915 for Patuca:
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Not sure what this is, but it's pasted onto the page for 19th December 1915 for Patuca:
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ADM_53-54674/ADM%2053-54674-104_1.jpg
Have just had the 19th December 1915 again, with a different bit pasted onto it, though the rest looks exactly the same - strange ...
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Not sure what this is, but it's pasted onto the page for 19th December 1915 for Patuca:
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ADM_53-54674/ADM%2053-54674-104_1.jpg
Have just had the 19th December 1915 again, with a different bit pasted onto it, though the rest looks exactly the same - strange ...
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ADM_53-54674/ADM%2053-54674-105_1.jpg
It looks like the same page but with the note folded out of the way.
Thorough scanning.
Pilot Wilson must have made quite a mess because he was removed from his charge not knowing how to handle the ship he was in charge.
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From Rinaldo's Log May 12th, 1917:
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4.30 F. Murphy and P. Harkins discharged to Princess for cell(?) punishment
Didn't say why, though. P. Harkins got mentioned before but I dont remember when it was.
No, They are the numbers of the Warrants. Usually you will see something like 'Read Warrant Nos 50 to 53'.
"Someone", probably dorbel - apologies if not, gave an excellent explanation of the system but I can't find it now.
As I recall, a miscreant has the details of his offence recorded on the warrant, numbered as in a receipt book. An appropriate number of crew members (possibly his watch, dependent on the ship's complement) is assembled and the charge against him is read out. That may be sufficient punishment, shame in front of his peers, or more severe penalty may be imposed.
The numbers start at the beginning of the book "1" and continue to the end of the book and then start again at 1. With a small or well behaved crew the book could last for years.
Avoca - 30 Jan 1918
Cautioned Eng Sub Lieut Henry RNR for disobedience of Orders in signing for spirits, which he did not consume himself.
Cautioned Eng Lieut Clark RNR for disobedience of Orders in signing for spirits, which he did not consume himself.
Avoca - 30 Jan 1918
Cautioned Eng Sub Lieut Henry RNR for disobedience of Orders in signing for spirits, which he did not consume himself.
Cautioned Eng Lieut Clark RNR for disobedience of Orders in signing for spirits, which he did not consume himself.
So... essentially they're in trouble for not drinking? ;D
That's also what I think. It is a long way from Cairo to Alexandria and one can easily get lost. ::)
5th May 1921 on the HMS Dragon
Any ideas what this is about ?
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ADM53-76132/ADM53-76132-153_0.jpg
looks like vicle art to me - and I have no idea what that means ;D
Kathy
I'm going through and organizing and labeling the wonderful list of pages that tastiger gathered for us, identifying barometers on ships.Thanks! ;D (I'm late to the up-keep here)
I wouldn't have the patience to harvest that many in the first place, but organizing them and understanding them is fun. ;D
...I wouldn't have the patience to harvest that many in the first place, but organizing them and understanding them is fun. ;DThanks! ;D (I'm late to the up-keep here)
And I noticed you were organizing them. Thanks, I don't have the patience to do all of that.
;D...I wouldn't have the patience to harvest that many in the first place, but organizing them and understanding them is fun. ;DThanks! ;D (I'm late to the up-keep here)
And I noticed you were organizing them. Thanks, I don't have the patience to do all of that.
That makes us a first-class team! ;D
We can go on sharing the up-keep, it will make easier all around.
Sorry have come to this site a bit late..but had previously found a death certificate left in log book, the ship was the Dunedin, the page 17th October1920 in Copenhagen, a Harry Briggs, Stoker Petty Officer, official number K4487 died of heart failure following pneumonia, he had previously be mentioned as 'being in hospital'.
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ADM53-76345/ADM53-76345-018_0.jpg
HMS Kinfauns Castle (probably posted before, but just in case)Yes, but what do the diagrams represent?
20 May 1915
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ADM_53-45699/ADM%2053-45699-013_0.jpg
21 May 1915
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ADM_53-45699/ADM%2053-45699-013_1.jpg
22 May 1915
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ADM_53-45699/ADM%2053-45699-014_0.jpg
23 May 1915
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ADM_53-45699/ADM%2053-45699-014_1.jpg
HMS Kinfauns Castle (probably posted before, but just in case)Yes, but what do the diagrams represent?
20 May 1915
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ADM_53-45699/ADM%2053-45699-013_0.jpg
21 May 1915
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ADM_53-45699/ADM%2053-45699-013_1.jpg
22 May 1915
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ADM_53-45699/ADM%2053-45699-014_0.jpg
23 May 1915
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ADM_53-45699/ADM%2053-45699-014_1.jpg
It is obviously a regular feature of the log, the diagram has been stamped with an ink pad and is in the log for May 2nd
It appears to represent waters depths in the holds, but is causing no apparent concern?
Yet another mystery
lgb
Birmingham - 24 Feb 1921
Read Warrant No. 72
HMS Kinfauns Castle (probably posted before, but just in case)
20 May 1915
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ADM_53-45699/ADM%2053-45699-013_0.jpg
21 May 1915
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ADM_53-45699/ADM%2053-45699-013_1.jpg
22 May 1915
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ADM_53-45699/ADM%2053-45699-014_0.jpg
23 May 1915
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ADM_53-45699/ADM%2053-45699-014_1.jpg
HMS Welland, 24 February 1918: "Stores lost during gale Feb 24/18"
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ADM%2053-68386/ADM%2053-68386-030_1.jpg
(The Welland is currently in/near Salonika.)
Boats collapsible 1 in No. Branch Pipes No. 3 size 1 in no.
Tommies 18 x 3/4 1 in no Chisels Gunner Strong 7/8 1 in no
Spanner forged ord 5/8 2 in no Saws hand 26" 1 in no
Shears hand 1 pair Bars Pinch 7/8 x 3' 1 in no
Life belts cork 16 in no Life Buoys 3 in no
Fenders wood 1 in no Rowlocks for whaler 2 in no
Rowlocks for collapsible boat 8 in no Hooks boat GM Large 1 in no
Hammers hand 2 lb 1 in no Pliers side cutting bright 1 pair
Hammers hand steel 2 lb 1 in no Chisels chipping steel 7/8 2 in no
Casks (iron) for Broxburn Oil 10 Galls 1 in no Chisels cast steel + cut 2 in no
Feeders oil use for torpedos 1 in no Ruler boxwood 2 ft 1 in no
Feeders oil Daisy 2 in no Fenders coir for torpedos 1 in no
Brooms hair brownheads 2 in no Fenders ships coir large 2 in no
Brooms bur brownheads 6 in no Oars boats fir spoon blade 15 ft 2 in no
Brushes dust or hand 2 in no " " " " " 10 ft 2 in no
Brushes scrubbing dust or hand 6 in no Boat hook for Carley float 1 in no
Paddles for Carley floats 6 in no Oars large for Carley float 1 in no
Shells common pointed 3 in no Oars small for Carley float 2 in no
Shells Shrapnell 12 pdr 8 cwt 2 in no Fuzes Time or percussion No 50 2 in no
Brushes pisaba QF 12 pdr 1 in no Keys Case Powder ML 1 in no
Extractors cartridge hand small 1 in no
(Signed) F E Ayers
Found by Bunts - with a formal, handwritten death certificate:
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ADM53-76345/ADM53-76345-038_0.jpg and CWGC
Able Seaman Eric William Allison
J/66121, H.M.S. "Dunedin"., Royal Navy
who died age 20 years 1 month on 24 November 1920
Son of Mr W. and Mrs B. Allison, of Manor Cottage, Boreham, Chelmsford, Essex.
Cause of Death "(a) Status Lymphaticus (b) Heart failure"
Eric Allison, rest in peace.
----------------------------------------------
Definition, Status Lymphaticus:
http://medical-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/status+lymphaticus
status lympha?ticus: lymphatism.
lymphatism /lym?pha?tism/ (lim?fah-tizm): 1.(medicine, historical) Enlargement or swelling of the lymphatic tissue, associated in the past with sudden death of children but no longer considered to be an authentic ailment. 2.Bloating, sluggishness
Sounds like they didn't know what was infecting this young man's lymph nodes, but it was very painful.
Birmingham - 9 April 1921
Read Warrant No. 77. Discharged 1 rating to Detention Quarters.
(number hard to read - http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ADM53-71398/ADM53-71398-159_0.jpg)
Birmingham - 9 April 1921
Read Warrant No. 77. Discharged 1 rating to Detention Quarters.
(number hard to read - http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ADM53-71398/ADM53-71398-159_0.jpg)
Still just ahead of you ;D : Birmingham 21st April 1921: "1 rating rejoined from Detention Quarters" Probably the same person.
I've been staying up too late too. MUST stop that.
Britomart, May 1919 log book, has some information filled in about how many miles they'd done at which speeds - I've never come across this before.
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ADM53-36259/ADM%2053-36259-002_1.jpg
Welland's log: http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ADM%2053-68361/ADM%2053-68361-002_0.jpg
List of irregularities, omissions, etc., identified by the HMS Alacrity at Kobe, 13 April 1914, in the copy of the Welland's log, for the period ending 31 March 1914.
Welland's log: http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ADM%2053-68361/ADM%2053-68361-002_0.jpg
List of irregularities, omissions, etc., identified by the HMS Alacrity at Kobe, 13 April 1914, in the copy of the Welland's log, for the period ending 31 March 1914.
I think I heard the sound of knuckles being rapped. That seems to be a memo from the Admiralty "advising" the captain of deficiencies in his household accounts.
To judge by later logs, things seem to have become slightly less officious following the development in August of that year.
No idea whether this is of any use/interest - but here it is. It's from Patuca, and came after 27th May 1916.
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ADM_53-54674/ADM%2053-54674-188_0.jpg
and the following page:
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ADM_53-54674/ADM%2053-54674-188_1.jpg
and someone grabbing a scrap piece of paper - why it's here I have no idea. It looks like just a bit of the log, but pasted on the cover.
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ADM_53-54674/ADM%2053-54674-189_0.jpg
and yet more
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ADM_53-54674/ADM%2053-54674-189_1.jpg
Welland's log, 1914: http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ADM%2053-68362/ADM%2053-68362-002b_0.jpg
List of "irregularities, omissions, etc." found in the original log of the Welland, compiled by the HMS Minotaur at Wei Hai Wei, 22 Jun 1914.
Stamped by the Commander in Chief, China Station, 9 Jul 1914
Interestingly enough, there is a second copy of the same record...
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ADM%2053-68362/ADM%2053-68362-002d_0.jpg
And another: http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ADM%2053-68362/ADM%2053-68362-002e_0.jpg
An early example of making a record in triplicate???
Letter:
HMS Triumph, June 8, 1914
(To) Commanding Officer, HMS Triumph
"Log of HMS Welland examined & found correct."
(signed) T. D. Sharp, Kings Harbour Master
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ADM_53-46028/ADM%2053-46028-015_1.jpg
A little reminder note from the log of HMS Lancaster, in Jan 1918.
And the back of the same note, with nothing on it.
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ADM_53-46028/ADM%2053-46028-016_0.jpg
K
From the Thistle
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ADM%2053-62873/ADM%2053-62873-009_1.jpg
page just after 1/11/1916
Uncommon name - I'm reading it as John D Irvine. I wonder if that's related to the Irvine family that settled in Southern California? ::pondering::
Uncommon name - I'm reading it as John D Irvine. I wonder if that's related to the Irvine family that settled in Southern California? ::pondering::
I agree with your reading and, I suppose there could be a relationship if you go back far enough; say to Adam and Eve. ;D
Marmora 28th February 1917
HMS Ophir sailed
Fresh vegetables discharged to N Agent 15,120 lbs
One Surgeon-I.Bostoor & 1 seaman joined ship on passage.
A.Willette, Marconi operator MN joined ship from hospital.
Received 1237 tons of coal
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ADM_53-48592/ADM%2053-48592-017_0.jpg
Well Bunts bit more for the picnic, still waiting on the butter & bread, you bringing the champagne?
HMS Marmora 8th June 1917
Received 48 boxes, said to contain gold
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ADM_53-48596/ADM%2053-48596-007_0.jpg
helenj - I have done my best to stitch them together...
...see attachment :)
maybe the numbers have something to do with the Patent Log - they seem much to high to be engine revolutions (revs)I wondered about the Patent Log too, but I thought that that was just a single value - and they are not in the PL column :-\
Kathy
maybe the numbers have something to do with the Patent Log - they seem much to high to be engine revolutions (revs)I wondered about the Patent Log too, but I thought that that was just a single value - and they are not in the PL column :-\
Kathy
Well, they start smaller - and show PL values...
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ADM_53-48597/ADM%2053-48597-014_1.jpg
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ADM_53-48598/ADM%2053-48598-004_0.jpg
Berwick 1 February, 1919 in Pacific off S America
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ADM53-35298/ADM53-35298-021_1.jpg
Mr Riddells, Boatswain has clearly fallen far short of what is expected of him in the performance of his duties
lgb
I think those are in fact the log pages - the 2nd one is pasted to the back cover of the book and the 1st has hand drawn lines - I bet they ran out of pages in that book - I bet it is the main log book that the copies are made from - maybe they didn't have a new blank book to shift to -
Kathy
A very interesting page from HMS Cornwall at the beginning of a Log book.
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ADM53-38701/ADM%2053-38701-004_0.jpg
Marmora 14th March 1918
Read Warrant No 72
8.45 Passed small rowing boat empty
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ADM_53-48605/ADM%2053-48605-010_0.jpg
Marmora
Starboard boom washed away by heavy Sea & lost overboard
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ADM_53-48606/ADM%2053-48606-007_1.jpg
'4.15 Read Warrant No. 24 for Deprivation of G.C. Badges'*
*does anyone know what that actually means?
'4.15 Read Warrant No. 24 for Deprivation of G.C. Badges'*
*does anyone know what that actually means?
Hope I've not misread your question.
G.C. Badges - Good Conduct.
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~pbtyc/KR&AI/GCB.html
There seem to be a financial reward for attainment but I haven't seen any other advantage or responsibility associated, apart from avoiding anything that would jeopardise keeping the badges.
HMS Philomel 11th Sept 1916I don't know if it helps, but here is 9 Sept 1916
"Investigation by Captain into Lieut Preeny's conduct in the evening of 9th September"
Unfortunately I didn't do the log for 9th so I don't know what happened.
Ship has been polishing her bottom in Muscat for a couple of weeks so maybe he succumbed to the boredom.
HMS Philomel 11th Sept 1916I don't know if it helps, but here is 9 Sept 1916
"Investigation by Captain into Lieut Preeny's conduct in the evening of 9th September"
Unfortunately I didn't do the log for 9th so I don't know what happened.
Ship has been polishing her bottom in Muscat for a couple of weeks so maybe he succumbed to the boredom.
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ADM%2053-55287/ADM%2053-55287-007_1.jpg
Welcome aboard!
Glad you are sticking out the rather frustrating end of phase 1.
As I suspected - the boredom got the better of him.
I didn't think you could see logs that other people had transcribed until the ship was completed - maybe a button I missed.
Just started since redundancy gave me rather more time on my hands.
My Grandfather served through WW1 so hoping some of his ships will be in phase 2.
8) Cool page in the Raven II's log, circa June 13-September 1917: http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ADM%2053-57315/ADM%2053-57315-003_1.jpg
Explains how to care for the book, codes to be used, etc.
That's brilliant, chommel - makes it all clear what their job was.
Presumably this rubric is in all the books, is this the first time that has appeared in the page images?
8) Cool page in the Raven II's log, circa June 13-September 1917: http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ADM%2053-57315/ADM%2053-57315-003_1.jpg
Explains how to care for the book, codes to be used, etc.
That's brilliant, chommel - makes it all clear what their job was.
Presumably this rubric is in all the books, is this the first time that has appeared in the page images?
Most of a list of gunners stores lost overboard on the page after 16th Feb 1918 from HMS Galatea
https://s3.amazonaws.com/oldweather/ADM53-42346/0128_0.jpg
Some of the rest of it is here, but without cutting and pasting the two docs together I cant be sure whether we have it all.
https://s3.amazonaws.com/oldweather/ADM53-42346/0128_1.jpg
From left hand side of Ben-my-Chree's log page list of items lost from Raven II on 1st July 1916 but no explanation why writen here
https://s3.amazonaws.com/oldweather/ADM53-35192/0003_1.jpg
From left hand side of Ben-my-Chree's log page list of items lost from Raven II on 1st July 1916 but no explanation why writen here
https://s3.amazonaws.com/oldweather/ADM53-35192/0003_1.jpg
Worse yet is Raven II's logs on here don't go back that far (the earliest I could find was about a week or 2 later). Hmmm...
HMS Bacchus
pm Leading Seaman Robinson broke out of ship
10.0pm Leading Seaman Robinson broke into ship. Returned drunk.
https://s3.amazonaws.com/oldweather/ADM53-34684/0004_0.jpg
W.Plowman RNRT Deck hand found drunk
https://s3.amazonaws.com/oldweather/ADM53-34684/0004_1.jpg
Ldg Sea Robinson & W.Plowman deckhand taken to Egmont for punishment. Robinson disrated to AB. W Plowman 10 days detention.
Eng Sub Lieut Combe RNR absent from the ship without leave from 7am 3rd July until 5am 4th July
https://s3.amazonaws.com/oldweather/ADM53-34684/0005_0.jpg
sounds like Friday night and the Old Anchor
I think this means that Sub Lieut. Thompson was the officer of the watch and as such should have been on the bridge and not is his cabin.Of course! Now it makes perfect sense. Thanks Kathy
Kathy
Hi jil,Hi Steeleye,
It looks like we should be able to cross check each other in our transcription of the HMS Glory logs. Earlier today, I made the identical entry about Sub Lieutenant Thompson's little misdemeanor on the' Dockside cafe/Riveting log entries' page. With the weather in Murmansk through the winter, who can blame him for staying in his cabin?!
Cheers, Steeleye
I should probably have gone through a few more log pages before posting, but its been and eventful week on HMS Bacchus
18th April 1918
https://s3.amazonaws.com/oldweather/ADM53-34694/0027_1.jpg
4:30 Lieut C.J. Cooper RNR ~ chief officer left ship in order to proceed to England with orders to report on arrival at Tansport Department of Admiralty (Admiralty ~). He was ordered by SNO to take passage to Italy in Oiler "Hollyleaf"
:o :oDid you read on? It seems that a stoker buddy may have tried to break up the fight.
HMS Empress 26th April 1917
Logged. Assistant Paymaster Ernest Talbot Chamberlain RNR for carelessly performing his duty thereby causing the loss of 200 pints of rum Government property. In accordance with Commander in Chiefs memo No 62 of April 20th 1917.
Signed by E.D. Drury Lieut Comdr RNR
https://s3.amazonaws.com/oldweather/ADM53-40784/0280_0.jpg
HMS Empress 26th April 1917
Logged. Assistant Paymaster Ernest Talbot Chamberlain RNR for carelessly performing his duty thereby causing the loss of 200 pints of rum Government property. In accordance with Commander in Chiefs memo No 62 of April 20th 1917.
Signed by E.D. Drury Lieut Comdr RNR
https://s3.amazonaws.com/oldweather/ADM53-40784/0280_0.jpg
I think we have a winner in the 'Most popular guy on board' contest ! ;) ;D
Two oversleeping Sub Lieutenants on HMS Himalaya, 4th November 1917:
Eng Sub Lieut M Finn RNR was absent from his action station at 5.15am after the horn had been sounded and ~ had been in addition called by Eng Lieut Commd'r J Piat RNR.
Followed by exactly the same entry for Eng Sub Lieut M F McKay RNR.
https://s3.amazonaws.com/oldweather/ADM53-44357/ADM%2053-44357-099_0.jpg
Two oversleeping Sub Lieutenants on HMS Himalaya, 4th November 1917:
Eng Sub Lieut M Finn RNR was absent from his action station at 5.15am after the horn had been sounded and ~ had been in addition called by Eng Lieut Commd'r J Piat RNR.
Followed by exactly the same entry for Eng Sub Lieut M F McKay RNR.
https://s3.amazonaws.com/oldweather/ADM53-44357/ADM%2053-44357-099_0.jpg
The missing word is "he".
I was intrigued by the sounding of the horn. Thinking of Joshua and some of his countrymen, I took a look and would suggest that you may wish to consider "Alarm" instead. ;D
https://s3.amazonaws.com/oldweather/ADM53-41221/ADM%2053-41221-034_0.jpg
HMS Euryalus - 26 January 1917
Departed this world at St. George's Hospital Bombay Edward Rankin Sto.(?) 1st Class O.N. SS 101463
PS I have copied this to the Buried at Sea etc thread.Thank you for copying it over. I just now realized this was the incorrect thread.
Yes, quite often if not always when an officer was cautioned in the log he had to sign it, presumably as a permanent record that he had read it!Yes. Talk about, "I hope you know this will go down on your *permanent* record." Here we are, talking about a really minor infraction 96 years after the fact.
One ship I worked on months ago wrote them in red ink as well, just to make sure they were noticed.
HMS Hyacinth February 5, 1918
and a nicely preserved bug
https://s3.amazonaws.com/oldweather/ADM53-44644/ADM%2053-44644-129_0.jpg
HMS Hyacinth February 5, 1918
and a nicely preserved bug
https://s3.amazonaws.com/oldweather/ADM53-44644/ADM%2053-44644-129_0.jpg
BOOM! BOOM! ;DHMS Hyacinth February 5, 1918
and a nicely preserved bug
https://s3.amazonaws.com/oldweather/ADM53-44644/ADM%2053-44644-129_0.jpg
I thought bug reports were supposed to go in the Tech Support thread?
;D 8) ;DHMS Hyacinth February 5, 1918
and a nicely preserved bug
https://s3.amazonaws.com/oldweather/ADM53-44644/ADM%2053-44644-129_0.jpg
I thought bug reports were supposed to go in the Tech Support thread?
HMS Hibernia - 14th August 1915 at Rosyth
Cautioned SubLieut Humphrey F. Vernon for being in Edinborogh (sassenach log keeper?) on Aug 13th without leave, contrary to the standing orders of the VAC 3rd BS
https://s3.amazonaws.com/oldweather/ADM53-44275/0100_0.jpg
And we've been in Rosyth for ages - I think they're getting bored!HMS Hibernia - 14th August 1915 at Rosyth
Cautioned SubLieut Humphrey F. Vernon for being in Edinborogh (sassenach log keeper?) on Aug 13th without leave, contrary to the standing orders of the VAC 3rd BS
https://s3.amazonaws.com/oldweather/ADM53-44275/0100_0.jpg
But who can blame him? Much more fun than Rosyth!
HMS Himalaya, 5th May 1918:
Eng. Sub-Lieut Mead RNR did make use of insubordinate language towards Lieut ?Hedges RNR Executive Officer.
https://s3.amazonaws.com/oldweather/ADM53-44357/ADM%2053-44357-203_1.jpg
HMS Himalaya, 5th May 1918:
Eng. Sub-Lieut Mead RNR did make use of insubordinate language towards Lieut ?Hedges RNR Executive Officer.
https://s3.amazonaws.com/oldweather/ADM53-44357/ADM%2053-44357-203_1.jpg
I believe it's Ledger (although I couldn't find him elsewhere) see "L" in Lieut to the left and above.
Sounds a bit like duffle (duffel) bags at dawn.
I was swithering
I was swithering
As Ken Dodd would say "They can't touch you for it."
New to me. It that an indication of your unfortunate ancestry? ;D
;D
It's a word I've always known - I suspect your ignorance of it indicates some lack in your education .... :o (hard though that is to believe)
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/swithering;D
It's a word I've always known - I suspect your ignorance of it indicates some lack in your education .... :o (hard though that is to believe)
I'll have you know that I can haver with the best; with or without a spurtle.
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/swithering;D
It's a word I've always known - I suspect your ignorance of it indicates some lack in your education .... :o (hard though that is to believe)
I'll have you know that I can haver with the best; with or without a spurtle.
:-*
HMS Hibernia, 8 August 1915, Rosyth. https://s3.amazonaws.com/oldweather/ADM53-44275/0097_0.jpgAugust just wasn't his month... 24 Aug, 1915, Rosyth "Discharged Mr. Grieve, Mid. RNR to Hosp." https://s3.amazonaws.com/oldweather/ADM53-44275/0106_0.jpg
"Deprived Mr. Thomas S. Grieve Midm. R.N.R. of three months seniority for returning on board drunk on 23rd July 1915, after dining on board H.M.S. Diamond." Signed by Mr Grieve.
HMS Hibernia - 7th Oct 1915 Rosyth
Cautioned Lieut A.W.S. Agar, RN for being in Edinburgh without leave on the afternoon of 2nd Oct 1915
https://s3.amazonaws.com/oldweather/ADM53-44275/0131_1.jpg
They are being tempted to the bright lights again. At least the log keeper has learned how to spell Edinburgh :D
Interesting - I think the VC just about wipes the caution off his record ;DHMS Hibernia - 7th Oct 1915 Rosyth
Cautioned Lieut A.W.S. Agar, RN for being in Edinburgh without leave on the afternoon of 2nd Oct 1915
https://s3.amazonaws.com/oldweather/ADM53-44275/0131_1.jpg
They are being tempted to the bright lights again. At least the log keeper has learned how to spell Edinburgh :D
Hey, I think that must be Gus Agar! Subsequently awarded a VC for his part in the Baltic Campaign. He was in charge of the Coastal Motor Boats which carried out an attack on Kronstadt in 1919. (See "Operation Kronstadt" by Harry Ferguson.)
HMS Hibernia - 18th May 1916
Admonished Lieut F.H. Pegram RN for failing to deliver a letter sent by the Vice Admiral, addressed to the Rear Admiral & turned over to Lieut Pegram as officer of the watch
https://s3.amazonaws.com/oldweather/ADM53-44275/0260_0.jpg
I don't suppose "I'm the officer of the watch not a postman" would have gone down well eitherHMS Hibernia - 18th May 1916
Admonished Lieut F.H. Pegram RN for failing to deliver a letter sent by the Vice Admiral, addressed to the Rear Admiral & turned over to Lieut Pegram as officer of the watch
https://s3.amazonaws.com/oldweather/ADM53-44275/0260_0.jpg
::)
That's one case where the old "Don't you know there's a war on?" excuse would not be accepted.
HMS Highflyer, 7/10/1916
Paid Prije(?) Honey(?) for seaking(sinking?) of "Kaiser Wilhelm der Grosse"
Highflyer sunk Kaiser Wilhelm der Grosse in 1914, why is someone/ship being paid now? ???
https://s3.amazonaws.com/oldweather/ADM53-44307/ADM%2053-44307-081_1.jpg
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HMS_Highflyer_(1898)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SS_Kaiser_Wilhelm_der_Grosse
Opening page of the log for HMS Renown 1921/22, with details of the ship:
https://s3.amazonaws.com/oldweather/ADM53-82386/0003_1.jpg
And another page with more info:
https://s3.amazonaws.com/oldweather/ADM53-82386/0004_1.jpg
I came across this on the NEW release of log pages
https://s3.amazonaws.com/oldweather/ADM53-85369/0003_1.jpg
It gives a lot of detail about the ship which may be of interest to some of you.
This one lists the weather instruments, guns and boats
https://s3.amazonaws.com/oldweather/ADM53-85369/0004_1.jpg
:) :)
Opening page of the log for HMS Renown 1921/22, with details of the ship:
https://s3.amazonaws.com/oldweather/ADM53-82386/0003_1.jpg
And another page with more info:
https://s3.amazonaws.com/oldweather/ADM53-82386/0004_1.jpg
That's terrific ... and not just the script.
HMS Renown, 800ft long, 32,000 tons, 31 knots.
Here she is, posing prettily:
http://www.history.navy.mil/photos/images/h57000/h57076.jpg
and her sister ship, HMS Repulse, showing how she would look when in business:
http://www.history.navy.mil/photos/images/h57000/h57181.jpg
Anyway ... you know how there has been talk of anchors - particularly sheet anchors? Her sheet anchor, mentioned in the specification, weighed 7.5 tons.
Small piece of recording paper from the logs of HMS Renown.
https://s3.amazonaws.com/oldweather/ADM53-82386/0038_1.jpg
And more, this time with a line. They appear to be continuous pressure readings.
https://s3.amazonaws.com/oldweather/ADM53-82386/0039_0.jpg
https://s3.amazonaws.com/oldweather/ADM53-82386/0039_1.jpg
Why would the atmospheric pressure oscillate in that almost regular way, or is that an artifact of the recording technology in those days?
And the end of the graph
https://s3.amazonaws.com/oldweather/ADM53-82386/0040_0.jpg
Here is another couple, from the Feb 1922. Again HMS Renown, this time in Columbo.
https://s3.amazonaws.com/oldweather/ADM53-82386/0101_1.jpg
https://s3.amazonaws.com/oldweather/ADM53-82386/0102_0.jpg
K
All technology is magic, when perceived by those who do not have a basic understanding of it. 8)
I can imagine California providing more opportunities for wildness too (assuming that's what 'Calif' stands for?)Correct
Bit of a wild night on HMS Veronica, at Suva 6th April 1922:
Lieut E G Thomas RN returned onboard drunk and placed in arrest under sentry's charge.
Stokers King & Goodwin placed under sentry's charge for coming on board drunk.
https://s3.amazonaws.com/oldweather/ADM53-89885/0024_1.jpg
From Free Dictionary, second entry (first was a noun):
mulct [mʌlkt] vb (tr)
1. (Law) to cheat or defraud
2. (Law) to fine (a person)
I was on Torch that year, at Malta. And she never even hinted in her logs of how crowded that harbor got. In fact, she only mentioned ships she had to interact with.
I'm jealous! :)
HMS Ceres 9th May 1919 - 'Night Report'
https://s3.amazonaws.com/oldweather/ADM53-37502/0073_1.jpg
HMS Ceres 9th May 1919 - 'Night Report'
https://s3.amazonaws.com/oldweather/ADM53-37502/0073_1.jpg
Never seen one of those before! I wonder whether they always did them, but they just didn't usually get included in the log?
The 'Night Report' doesn't appear to match up with the log page it's with as there's no mention of any crew on long leave (and didn't they only do that in home ports?) or the absentee.
Reasons for exceeding normal speed, from HMS Wisteria, March 1922.
https://s3.amazonaws.com/oldweather/ADM53-93266/0002_1.jpg
HMS Edinburgh Castle boarding reports:-
http://s3.amazonaws.com/oldweather/ADM53-40562/ADM%2053-40562-013_1.jpg
http://s3.amazonaws.com/oldweather/ADM53-40562/ADM%2053-40562-014_1.jpg
http://s3.amazonaws.com/oldweather/ADM53-40562/ADM%2053-40562-015_1.jpg
http://s3.amazonaws.com/oldweather/ADM53-40562/ADM%2053-40562-016_1.jpg
http://s3.amazonaws.com/oldweather/ADM53-40562/ADM%2053-40562-019_0.jpg
http://s3.amazonaws.com/oldweather/ADM53-40562/ADM%2053-40562-019_1.jpg
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http://s3.amazonaws.com/oldweather/ADM53-40562/ADM%2053-40562-024_1.jpg
http://s3.amazonaws.com/oldweather/ADM53-40562/ADM%2053-40562-029_1.jpg
http://s3.amazonaws.com/oldweather/ADM53-40562/ADM%2053-40562-030_1.jpg
http://s3.amazonaws.com/oldweather/ADM53-40562/ADM%2053-40562-031_1.jpg
http://s3.amazonaws.com/oldweather/ADM53-40562/ADM%2053-40562-032_1.jpg
http://s3.amazonaws.com/oldweather/ADM53-40562/ADM%2053-40562-034_1.jpg
http://s3.amazonaws.com/oldweather/ADM53-40562/ADM%2053-40562-037_1.jpg
http://s3.amazonaws.com/oldweather/ADM53-40562/ADM%2053-40562-038_1.jpg
http://s3.amazonaws.com/oldweather/ADM53-40562/ADM%2053-40562-039_1.jpg
http://s3.amazonaws.com/oldweather/ADM53-40562/ADM%2053-40562-044_1.jpg
HMS Edinburgh Castle boarding reports:-
http://s3.amazonaws.com/oldweather/ADM53-40562/ADM%2053-40562-013_1.jpg
http://s3.amazonaws.com/oldweather/ADM53-40562/ADM%2053-40562-014_1.jpg
http://s3.amazonaws.com/oldweather/ADM53-40562/ADM%2053-40562-015_1.jpg
http://s3.amazonaws.com/oldweather/ADM53-40562/ADM%2053-40562-016_1.jpg
http://s3.amazonaws.com/oldweather/ADM53-40562/ADM%2053-40562-019_0.jpg
http://s3.amazonaws.com/oldweather/ADM53-40562/ADM%2053-40562-019_1.jpg
http://s3.amazonaws.com/oldweather/ADM53-40562/ADM%2053-40562-020_1.jpg
http://s3.amazonaws.com/oldweather/ADM53-40562/ADM%2053-40562-024_1.jpg
http://s3.amazonaws.com/oldweather/ADM53-40562/ADM%2053-40562-029_1.jpg
http://s3.amazonaws.com/oldweather/ADM53-40562/ADM%2053-40562-030_1.jpg
http://s3.amazonaws.com/oldweather/ADM53-40562/ADM%2053-40562-031_1.jpg
http://s3.amazonaws.com/oldweather/ADM53-40562/ADM%2053-40562-032_1.jpg
http://s3.amazonaws.com/oldweather/ADM53-40562/ADM%2053-40562-034_1.jpg
http://s3.amazonaws.com/oldweather/ADM53-40562/ADM%2053-40562-037_1.jpg
http://s3.amazonaws.com/oldweather/ADM53-40562/ADM%2053-40562-038_1.jpg
http://s3.amazonaws.com/oldweather/ADM53-40562/ADM%2053-40562-039_1.jpg
http://s3.amazonaws.com/oldweather/ADM53-40562/ADM%2053-40562-044_1.jpg
HMS Caesar
1st August 1914 (http://s3.amazonaws.com/oldweather/ADM53-36572/ADM%2053-36572-039_0.jpg)
List of Officers in ship on mobilizing
While around in South America H.M.S. Glasgow's crew behaved well. Now as she is at Simons Town in dry dock and now at least once a week warrants are read. This time two ratings must have behaved quite badly as they were sent to detention barracks.I think Simon's Town must have been awash with temptation! I remember on one of my ships (Himalaya?) there was a constant stream of ratings being sent off to detention, and warrants being read very regularly. And being in dry dock must have been very boring too - it certainly is boring to transcribe!
http://s3.amazonaws.com/oldweather/ADM53-42836/ADM%2053-42836-007_0.jpg
Just in case I see more of these (had some before but didn't know they had a seperate topic yet. I always transcribe them): do you also have to enter them in this thread if it just says "Warrant nr. X read" without names or consequences? That has always been the case with the ones I found so far.I listed ALL warrants here for a long time, but I stopped doing that recently. I would make 1 entry for a ship and then just add each new warrant to that entry rather than creating a new entry each time. If more than the number is given (that has never happened to me), I would post it here. I still transcribe them.
This time the offense must have been quite bad or the detention quarters are full of ratings from different ships, which means that ratings can be sent to prison for detention.
Read warrant No 48. Discharged one Pte R.M.L.I. to prison
http://s3.amazonaws.com/oldweather/ADM53-42849/ADM%2053-42849-006_1.jpg
So it is Randi, for more information see my explanation on page 63 of this topic.
Stuart, I hope this helps.
A sailor from HMS Gloucestershire got married:
http://s3.amazonaws.com/oldweather/ADM53-43097/ADM%2053-43097-013_0.jpg
http://s3.amazonaws.com/oldweather/ADM53-43097/ADM%2053-43097-016_1.jpg
http://s3.amazonaws.com/oldweather/ADM53-43098/ADM%2053-43098-003_1.jpg
Mr Harwood is in trouble again:Do they have a proper place for making a disturbance? ;D
Corrected Engineer Lieut J W Harwood RNR (Tempy) for (1) making a disturbance in an improper place namely MAA's cabin on 20 inst; (2) incurring excessive charges for wines & spiritis on Feb 18th & 20th. Signed F W Dean Act Capt, J W Harwood
http://s3.amazonaws.com/oldweather/ADM53-44341/ADM%2053-44341-014_0.jpg
Mr Harwood is in trouble again:Do they have a proper place for making a disturbance? ;D
Corrected Engineer Lieut J W Harwood RNR (Tempy) for (1) making a disturbance in an improper place namely MAA's cabin on 20 inst; (2) incurring excessive charges for wines & spiritis on Feb 18th & 20th. Signed F W Dean Act Capt, J W Harwood
http://s3.amazonaws.com/oldweather/ADM53-44341/ADM%2053-44341-014_0.jpg