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Getting Your Sea Legs (http://forum.oldweather.org/index.php?board=4.0)
The Logs and FAQ (http://forum.oldweather.org/index.php?board=7.0)
Handwriting Help (http://forum.oldweather.org/index.php?board=8.0)
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Bird Rocks & Rosario Strait (http://mapcarta.com/23920350)
Port Townsend (bay) (http://www.geographic.org/geographic_names/usaname.php?uni=1524588&fid=usageo_1422)
In
1890, Fairhaven developers bought Bellingham. Whatcom and Sehome had
adjacent borders and both towns wanted to merge; thus they formed New Whatcom.
Later on October 27, 1903, the word "New" was dropped from the name,
because the Washington State legislature outlawed the word "NEW" from
city names, making it into simply "Whatcom". At first, attempts to
combine Fairhaven and Whatcom failed, and there was controversy over the
name of the proposed new city. Whatcom citizens wouldn't support a city
named "Fairhaven", and Fairhaven residents wouldn't support a city
named "Whatcom". They eventually decided to use the name "Bellingham",
which remains today.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bellingham,_Washington
Maps from Coast Survey's Historical Map & Chart Collection:
Washington Sound, 1881 (http://historicalcharts.noaa.gov/historicals/preview/image/3N654-81)
Bellingham Bay. WA, 1898 (http://historicalcharts.noaa.gov/historicals/preview/image/BELLING)
Navigation
Chart of the Gulf of Georgia and Strait of Juan de Fuca, 1895
(http://historicalcharts.noaa.gov/historicals/preview/image/CP2119C)
Sea
Coast and Interior Waters of Washington from Gray's Harbor to Semiahmoo
Bay, 1900
(http://historicalcharts.noaa.gov/historicals/preview/image/6400-06-1900)
TERRITORY OF ALASKA SOUTHWEST SECTION, 1898 (http://historicalcharts.noaa.gov/historicals/preview/image/53691-4-1898)
Alaska
Peninsula and Aleutian Islands to Seguam Pass, 1896
(http://historicalcharts.noaa.gov/historicals/preview/image/3N8800-96A)
Map from NOAA Ofice of Coast Survey:
Unalaska Bay & Dutch Harbor (http://www.charts.noaa.gov/OnLineViewer/16528.shtml)
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The San Francisco Call 14 Oct 1895 (column 2):
The Arrival of the Cutter Perry.
The Aleutian Volcanoes in Activity. (http://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lccn/sn85066387/1895-10-14/ed-1/seq-7.pdf)
San Francisco Call, Volume 77, Number 137, 26 April 1895
ARRIVAL OF THE PERRY.
The Revenue Cutter's Long Trip From New York to the Coast.
TO JOIN THE BERING FLEET. (http://cdnc.ucr.edu/cgi-bin/cdnc?a=d&d=SFC18950426.2.111)
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Hi all. Currently transcribing this page
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Commodore%20perry//Volumes/Seagate%20Backup%20Plus%20Drive/Arfon-JPEGS/RG26/COMMODORE%20PERRY//vol169/vol169_071_0.jpg,
and would appreciate feedback re the apparent non-correlation between
the indicated "State of the Weather symbols" and "Percentage of Clear
sky". This has been a recurring issue, more so with the symbols "c" and
"e" being close to identical. For example on the above link, they
symbols "bc" (perhaps "be") run along the "Percentage of Clear Sky" (in
tenths) readings with the latter increasing from 0 to 3. The
corresponding Beaufort should therefore run between "o" (100% cloud
cover i.e. 0 (tenths) clear sky logged) and "c" (a minimum of 70% cloud
cover i.e. 3 (tenths) clear sky logged).
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I believe that 09 is 'bc' rather than 'be'.
Looking at
instructions from 1879
(http://forum.oldweather.org/index.php?topic=3458.msg56129#msg56129),
they don't use the code 'e'. In fact, I don't think I have ever seen an
'e' used - although I haven't done very many post WWI logs.
I
agree that the use of 'bc' and 'c' is not very consistent AND does
not seem to match the percent of clear sky. All I can say is that it
should be transcribed as it is written.
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back in a few minutes ;)
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Hi
all. Currently transcribing this page
http://www.oldweather.org/transcriptions/52627ba7ab21ee6a3101a8f0/edit ,
and would appreciate feedback re the apparent non-correlation between
the indicated "State of the Weather symbols" and "Percentage of Clear
sky". This has been a recurring issue, more so with the symbols "c" and
"e" being close to identical. For example on the above link, they
symbols "bc" (perhaps "be") run along the "Percentage of Clear Sky" (in
tenths) readings with the latter increasing from 0 to 3. The
corresponding Beaufort should therefore run between "o" (100% cloud
cover i.e. 0 (tenths) clear sky logged) and "c" (a minimum of 70% cloud
cover i.e. 3 (tenths) clear sky logged).
Welcome to the forum!
KJB, that link you gave us can be read only by the moderators (See Ask for expert advice
(http://forum.oldweather.org/index.php?topic=3944.0)) For the
rest of our veteran transcribers to see the page, we have to use the
JPEG link to the page picture. (See Posting Links and Images (A Guide)
(http://forum.oldweather.org/index.php?topic=536.0)) All of our
members enjoy talking and answering, and it helps if all of us can see
your original page.
And here, we are true transcribers only;
there will be analysts and editors correcting log keeper errors
later. All of these records are on century-old paper and we want a
true digital record of what they wrote, errors and stupidities
included, before that paper gets damaged by age. That said,
keyboards are not as flexible as pen and paper, so there are a number of
adaptations required. Please see Type What You See - Yes, but ... (http://forum.oldweather.org/index.php?topic=3191.0)
Glad to have you here. :)
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Thanks for the prompt reply Randi. Well, at least that settles the "c"s and "e"s question. It's 1895 and so predates WW I.
I'm
glad you posted that link, since it's precisely one of the pages
therein, namely
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Jeannette/vol001of004/vol001_003_1.jpg
which prompted me to use the Beaufort Codes, given that the latter
allows for amalgamated symbols such as "bc", while the former doesn't.
It's either a "b", or a "c". Running into that particular alley, I
therefore considered a possible "be", which seems not to be that case
now.
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Thanks Janet. I re-posted the link as per your suggestion.
Hi
all. Currently transcribing this page
http://www.oldweather.org/transcriptions/52627ba7ab21ee6a3101a8f0/edit ,
and would appreciate feedback re the apparent non-correlation between
the indicated "State of the Weather symbols" and "Percentage of Clear
sky". This has been a recurring issue, more so with the symbols "c" and
"e" being close to identical. For example on the above link, they
symbols "bc" (perhaps "be") run along the "Percentage of Clear Sky" (in
tenths) readings with the latter increasing from 0 to 3. The
corresponding Beaufort should therefore run between "o" (100% cloud
cover i.e. 0 (tenths) clear sky logged) and "c" (a minimum of 70% cloud
cover i.e. 3 (tenths) clear sky logged).
Welcome to the forum!
KJB, that link you gave us can be read only by the moderators (See Ask for expert advice
(http://forum.oldweather.org/index.php?topic=3944.0)) For the
rest of our veteran transcribers to see the page, we have to use the
JPEG link to the page picture. (See Posting Links and Images (A Guide)
(http://forum.oldweather.org/index.php?topic=536.0)) All of our
members enjoy talking and answering, and it helps if all of us can see
your original page.
And here, we are true transcribers only;
there will be analysts and editors correcting log keeper errors
later. All of these records are on century-old paper and we want a
true digital record of what they wrote, errors and stupidities
included, before that paper gets damaged by age. That said,
keyboards are not as flexible as pen and paper, so there are a number of
adaptations required. Please see Type What You See - Yes, but ... (http://forum.oldweather.org/index.php?topic=3191.0)
Glad to have you here. :)
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I should have mentioned that 'bc' is very common.
and
We're glad to have you here in the forum!
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Sorry for the stupid question, but if there are temperatures for
"Ther Attached" and "Wet", but not for "Dry", and no "Bar Hight", should
I assume this is an error and the temperatures of the "Ther Attached"
column should be in the "Dry" column, or should I transcribe them as
they are?
Because it seems to make no sense to read the thermometer of the barometer, but not the arometer itself.
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Hi, T-M! Can you give us a pic of your page? We really just need a link to the jpeg pic - see Posting Links and Images (A Guide) (http://forum.oldweather.org/index.php?topic=536.0)
The
mods also can look at your actual transcriptions to see what you are
doing, if you wish. See
http://forum.oldweather.org/index.php?topic=3944.0
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Here it is:
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Commodore%20perry//Volumes/Seagate%20Backup%20Plus%20Drive/Arfon-JPEGS/RG26/COMMODORE%20PERRY//vol169/vol169_054_0.jpg
(http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Commodore%20perry//Volumes/Seagate%20Backup%20Plus%20Drive/Arfon-JPEGS/RG26/COMMODORE%20PERRY//vol169/vol169_054_0.jpg)
To make it even worse, for PM the "Dry" and the "Water" columns are filled, so maybe this is what was intended for AM, too?
And the entry in the "Leeway" column is probably the barometer reading?
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I have responded in Ask for expert advice (http://forum.oldweather.org/index.php?topic=3944.msg76633#msg76633) ;)
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T-M
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http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Commodore%20perry//Volumes/Seagate%20Backup%20Plus%20Drive/Arfon-JPEGS/RG26/COMMODORE%20PERRY//vol169/vol169_055_1.jpg
July 7th, 1895: A previously unnamed bay was named "Perry Bay". ;D
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Logical ;D
I took a look, but the name doesn't seem to have been made official. Some familiar sounding names though!
http://historicalcharts.noaa.gov/historicals/preview/image/3N8800-96
http://www.charts.noaa.gov/OnLineViewer/16501.shtml
http://mapcarta.com/24064420
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For anyone who was working on Perry logs from 1895 (in Alaska area)
and then proceeded to transcribing logs from 1896 (departing San
Francisco), be aware that the Longitude/Latitude at noon for Observed
and Dead Reckoning have switched order in the log book. That is, in the
earlier log, Dead Reckoning coordinates were above Observed coordinate
entries, but in the latter log, Observed coordinates are first.
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Thanks, that's helpful to know.
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Unfortunate drama, which could have turned out even worse...
From the Perry
18 April 1896
[my best attempt to transcribe]
4
- 8 A.M. ? Mod. to stiff breeze from S.W. to W x N. overcast to partly
clear mod. to rough sea. 4.45 in sail wind drawing ahead. put reef in
main trysail and furled it. At about 7.05 the boatswain who was filling
front tank of forward water closet was washed overboard by the vessel
taking a sea over the bows, - streamed the life buoys and immediately
the vessel bringing her up head to sea, lowered the starboard otter boat
sending hand into the rigging to keep lookout on the mast overboard.
Otter boat rowed down to where buoys were streamed and where boatswain
was last seen but was unable to find him. He was clothed in oil skins
and heavy boots that probably weighed him down and which with the
temperature of water evidently rendered it impossible for him to keep
afloat. He was close to the buoys when last reported. Steamed various
courses for about an hour in search of missing man, otter boat also
making search. At about 8.00 saw a sea comb over otter boat and capsize
her Steam down alongside and after several attempts, the vessel during
very badly succeeded in getting lines to the men who were clinging to
the overturned boat and haled them on board. Administered the methods of
resuscitation and took every expedient to restore the men who were far
gone with exhaustion. Made an attempt to pick up the boat but the sea
getting heavier abandoned the effort. Alfred ~ , boatswain was lost
expended thru life buoy.
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What a terrible drama. Can you give us a jpeg link to the
page? I'd like to help identify the boatswain whose life was lost,
if we can.
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http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Commodore%20perry//Volumes/Seagate%20Backup%20Plus%20Drive/Arfon-JPEGS/RG26/COMMODORE%20PERRY//vol171/vol171_011_1.jpg
;D
The last might be: "expended three life buoys."
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That would be Alfred Haefeli -
City Directories on Ancestry.com
(http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?rank=1&new=1&MSAV=1&msT=1&gss=angs-g&gsfn=Alfred&gsln=Haefeli&msddy=1896&cpxt=0&catBucket=rstp&uidh=r1a&_83004003-n_xcl=f&cp=0&pcat=ROOT_CATEGORY&h=219597383&db=USDirectories&indiv=1&ml_rpos=38)
Name: A Haefeli
Residence Year: 1896
Residence Place: San Francisco, California
Occupation: Boatswain
Publication Title: San Francisco, California, City Directory, 1896
U.S.,
Naval Hospital Tickets and Case Papers, 1825-1889 about Alfred Haefeli
(http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?rank=1&new=1&MSAV=1&msT=1&gss=angs-g&gsfn=Alfred&gsln=Haifeli&msddy=1896&cpxt=0&catBucket=rstp&uidh=r1a&_83004003-n_xcl=f&cp=0&pcat=ROOT_CATEGORY&h=58210&recoff=10+11&db=NavalHospitalTickets&indiv=1&ml_rpos=7)
Name: Alfred Haefeli
Birth Year: abt 1861
Birth Place: Switzerland
Admittance Date: 17 Jan 1888
Age at Admission: 27
Hospital Location: New York, New York, United States
Rest in peace, Alfred Haefeli
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Names are often difficult to transcribe!
Thanks for your help (as well on the "three" life buoys).
I've also made a few other small corrections...
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You are welcome. And yes, proper names are the hardest to read and transcribe.
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Aftermath of Haefeli lost at sea (April 18, 1896)...
April 21st: Took account of the effects of the late Boatswain A. Haefeli.
April
22nd: Surgeon from the "Rush" attended T.K. Dykes, Ord. Sea., he having
been sick since he was capsized in the boat on the morning of the 18th
instant.
April 23rd: Called in a physician (Dr. Biggs) to attend T.K. Dykes, Ord. Sea., he being very sick with inflamation of the lungs.
April 24th: The fleet surgeon attended T.K. Dykes, O.S.
Sent O. Sea. T.K. Dykes to the Marine Hospital at Port Townsend.
[There
is no further mention of Ordinary Seaman T.K. Dykes returning to the
ship (or not), so it isn't clear what happened to him, but the Perry
departed Port Townsend within a day]
May 31: commanding officer
read Department letter of April 30th, 1896, in commendation of zeal
displayed in attempted rescue of Boatswain Haifeli.
April 1: Board,
consisting of Lieut. Ross, Chf. Engr. Dally & Lieut. Haake, met to
investigate the attempted rescue of Boatswain Haefeli.
[more to come as encountered]
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A bit of discipline aboard the Perry:
April 24, 1896:
Disrated seaman Chas. Woodruff to Ord. Sea. for drunkenness, absence
without leave, & general negligence of duties.
April 30, 1896:
Disrated S~ Samson, Cab. Stwd., to Cook on account of incompetency,
disobedience and using some drug ~ to doctor. [this note was written in
extra small print and is difficult to read. Here is a link:
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Commodore%20perry//Volumes/Seagate%20Backup%20Plus%20Drive/Arfon-JPEGS/RG26/COMMODORE%20PERRY//vol171/vol171_023_1.jpg]
May 10, 1896: Confined Wm. Haines in double irons for drunkenness. [He was released from confinement about 24 hours later]
Nor are officers immune from punishment...
Oct
5, 1895: At 9:30 Relieved Mr. Craig for not carrying out my orders
regarding keeping the "Grant" close aboard when passing through the
dangerous channels and allowing that vessel to run out of sight. [2nd
Lieut. Craig was restored to duty about 24 hours later]
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zrobertson
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I
have been working on the Perry since joining oldWeather, and within the
past day or so, after "finishing" a page, the interface brought up a
page from about six weeks back (in ship time) from where I had been
working and it is a page that I have already transcribed. I know that
three transcriptions are needed for each page, but I am assuming those
are supposed to be from three different people.
Prior to this, I
was always receiving the next page in the log book. I know this can be
affected by other people working on and completing pages in the
vicinity, but I assumed that would end up causing you to skip pages
moving forward, not moving backward. In any case, I can't imagine why
the interface is taking me back to a page I have already completed...
I tried logging out of oldWeather/Zooniverse and logging back in, but I am taken to the same page.
Here is the page I am being asked to transcribe:
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Commodore%20perry//Volumes/Seagate%20Backup%20Plus%20Drive/Arfon-JPEGS/RG26/COMMODORE%20PERRY//vol171/vol171_026_0.jpg
Here is my already existing transcription:
http://oldweather.org/transcriptions/52a73f78d168cc4103006964/edit
Is there a problem with the interface? How can I get back to the "present"? (for me the present would be June 4, 1896).
[edited to include correct transcription link]
:'( The PTB have been informed.
updated quote - link fixed ;)
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Some more unfortunate happenings for the crew of the Perry:
(July 16, 1896)
8:30
while making evening colors, the pennant refused to break out or to
lower. After several efforts to haul it down, Seaman C. Moulthrop, who
was acting Quarter-Master, went aloft to clear the pennant. He reached
the truck, made several ineffectual efforts to break out the pennant,
(probably for the space of a minute,) when from some unaccountable
reason, he fell to the deck:- striking first in the rigging and then on
the strong back of starboard waist davits.
Surgeon Kierueff was
sent for immediately, but death was almost instantaneous. The body was
removed to the Pilot House, and a Petty Officer's Watch kept during the
night. The body was prepared for burial.
(July 17, 1896)
Crew
employed coaling ship until noon, when knocked off to make preparations
for Seaman Moulthrop's funeral. 2:30 funeral procession consisting of
Officers and Crews of U. S. Steamers "Perry" and "Corwin" left the
vessel for Unalaska.
5:30 Officers and Crews returned, having
buried Seaman Charles C. Moulthrop, in Unalaska, Alaska. Expended 50
rounds of .45 cal. cartridges in volley firing over the grave.
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Thank you for posting this. It is always interesting to see what is happening on a ship - besides cleaning ;)
I
have copied your post to American Burials at sea and other recorded
deaths... (http://forum.oldweather.org/index.php?topic=3377.0)
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I found a newspaper story of this incident - the surgeon's diagnosis
of the reason for the fall was heart problems. Rest in Peace,
C.C. Moulthrop.
The San Francisco call., September 24, 1896, Page 3, Image 3
The Library of Congress > Chronicling America (http://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/)
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-PfpRtCcz964/UudnkLBksyI/AAAAAAAADIc/gTMaakF_oD4/w381-h426-no/USS+Perry+1896+death+1.JPG)
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-y2aMT2aRf_c/Uudnm4aDAxI/AAAAAAAADIo/ImKua6nbqBU/w383-h382-no/USS+Perry+1896+death+2.JPG)
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Law Enforcement aboard the Perry:
On August 5, the Perry
seized three vessels that were pursuing and killing seals inside the
prohibited zone of 60 miles from the Pribiloff Islands. The three seized
vessels were
British Schooner "Beatrice"
American Schooner "J.G. Swan"
British Schooner "Ainoko"
I
am having difficulty making out the name of the "Act" under which
provisions these boats were seized. It is mentioned in the 10 A.M. to
Merid. log entry as well as the 4 P.M. to 8 P.M. entry.
It appears to be the "Bering Sea Accord Act" but in both references it is the word "Accord" I am not sure of.
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Commodore%20perry//Volumes/Seagate%20Backup%20Plus%20Drive/Arfon-JPEGS/RG26/COMMODORE%20PERRY//vol171/vol171_120_1.jpg
(http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Commodore%20perry//Volumes/Seagate%20Backup%20Plus%20Drive/Arfon-JPEGS/RG26/COMMODORE%20PERRY//vol171/vol171_120_1.jpg)
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Law Enforcement aboard the Perry:
On
August 5, the Perry seized three vessels that were pursuing and killing
seals inside the prohibited zone of 60 miles from the Pribiloff
Islands. The three seized vessels were
British Schooner "Beatrice"
American Schooner "J.G. Swan"
British Schooner "Ainoko"
I
am having difficulty making out the name of the "Act" under which
provisions these boats were seized. It is mentioned in the 10 A.M. to
Merid. log entry as well as the 4 P.M. to 8 P.M. entry.
It appears to be the "Bering Sea Accord Act" but in both references it is the word "Accord" I am not sure of.
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Commodore%20perry//Volumes/Seagate%20Backup%20Plus%20Drive/Arfon-JPEGS/RG26/COMMODORE%20PERRY//vol171/vol171_120_1.jpg
(http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Commodore%20perry//Volumes/Seagate%20Backup%20Plus%20Drive/Arfon-JPEGS/RG26/COMMODORE%20PERRY//vol171/vol171_120_1.jpg)
I believe it is the Bering Sea Award. If you're interested in some light reading...
http://legal.un.org/riaa/cases/vol_XXVIII/263-276.pdf
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That's it !! Thank you for the help.
Any chance you can
make out the name of the crewman put on board the Ainoko, along with
Lieut. Ross (mentioned in the 4 PM to 8 PM entry)?
M. ~A. Mc~ary ??
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That's it !! Thank you for the help.
Any
chance you can make out the name of the crewman put on board the
Ainoko, along with Lieut. Ross (mentioned in the 4 PM to 8 PM entry)?
M. ~A. Mc~ary ??
I
had transcribed this few days ago (just making a wild guess at the
name), and I'm glad you made me go back to it, because I think I've
figured out part of it, at least!
My guess on the first bit is M. @ A. (that being Master at Arms). Not positive on the last name - possibly McMary?
By the way, I'm honored to be talking to our Captain ;) I'm working my way up there!
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I agree the rating is M @ A but I think the name is McInary.
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I agree the rating is M @ A but I think the name is McInary.
Ah, I think you're right there.
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The letter after the Mc does not look much like other "M"s in the log.
Perhaps his name will come up again later on...
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By the way, I'm honored to be talking to our Captain ;) I'm working my way up there!
At our current respective rates of progress, I am pretty sure I will be honored to be talking to our NEW Captain within a month.
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By the way, I'm honored to be talking to our Captain ;) I'm working my way up there!
At our current respective rates of progress, I am pretty sure I will be honored to be talking to our NEW Captain within a month.
OldWeather
is my preferred method of procrastination, so that will depend on how
much "real" work I have that I want to avoid :D
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I found the name of your Master at Arms - Michael McInary. He is in the 1910 US census.
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-D5ajrt2IpRo/UwLdoZfPQrI/AAAAAAAADSw/-MkvuzZ-Pl8/w715-h104-no/McInary+1910+a.JPG)(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-wDVLUOv13u0/UwLdoe7bmlI/AAAAAAAADS0/clmEa0XTyjI/w715-h114-no/McInary+1910+b.JPG)
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I found the name of your Master at Arms - Michael McInary. He is in the 1910 US census.
Mystery solved! Thank you!
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OldWeather
is my preferred method of procrastination, so that will depend on how
much "real" work I have that I want to avoid :D
Nothing like a kitchen full of dirty dishes to motivate me!
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rbertin1068 passes the 3000 mark!
;D
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RainbowMegan passes the 2000 mark!
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d0cent passes the 500 mark!
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loraccarol
Welcome (back) to the top 12 !
;D
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Question: I think I have finished the 1896 log book. After I
transcribed October 1, 1896, I had two blank log pages, and now this:
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Commodore%20perry//Volumes/Seagate%20Backup%20Plus%20Drive/Arfon-JPEGS/RG26/COMMODORE%20PERRY//vol175/vol175_001_0.jpg
It looks like the start of a new book. Should I transcribe anything from this page, or just move on?
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Just click on I've finished with this page ;D
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A couple of quick questions about this new 1902 log book:
1.
The "Clear Sky" column in the log book is now "Amount of Clouds" -
should I still record the number just as written? I've seen that this is
the recommendation on a couple other ships.
See here, for
example:
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Commodore%20perry//Volumes/Seagate%20Backup%20Plus%20Drive/Arfon-JPEGS/RG26/COMMODORE%20PERRY//vol175/vol175_009_0.jpg
2.
If any master handwriting readers would like to try their hand at the
last sentence in the 8am to Merid. entry on this page, feel free. I
don't think it's terribly important, but I couldn't quite decipher the
bracketed section and am curious.
I have: Permanent [ Swell board reset ] and submitted report to Commanding Officer.
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Commodore%20perry//Volumes/Seagate%20Backup%20Plus%20Drive/Arfon-JPEGS/RG26/COMMODORE%20PERRY//vol175/vol175_006_1.jpg
Thanks!
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1. Yes, please record it as written.
2. I'll take a look ;)
It may be met rather than reset :-\
Still working on Swell ???
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Yes, "met" makes sense. So, this is some mysterious board meeting and then reporting before the ship sets off. Hmm.
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Just ran across this picture:
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/e2/Perry_Island_postcard.jpg)
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Hi Megan,
Maybe it could be
Permanent hull board met and submitted report to Commanding Officer.
(the
hull board is a board of officers in charge of inspecting and reporting
about the ship's hull - normally before and after drydock operations,
but also whenever an hull inspection is needed).
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I think Matteo has it!!!
(http://www.desismileys.com/smileys/desismileys_6536.gif)
Box 1312
6073 Hull Board
General
Reports of Permanent Hull Board
CUMMINGS
Hull Boards 1926-27
Alpha Order
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Perfect! Thank you both!
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DavidErskine
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padavid43
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padavid43 passes the 250 mark!
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d0cent
Welcome back ! ! !
;D ;D ;D
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RainbowMegan
Welcome back ! ! !
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mdmcdermitt
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mdmcdermitt passes the 250 mark!
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szukacz
Welcome back to OW !
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rbertin1068
Welcome back ! ! !
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Murder case?
I returned to the Perry after several months
leave... and came across a brief entry in the ship's log of August 7,
1902, referring to a "murder case"!
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Commodore%20perry//Volumes/Seagate%20Backup%20Plus%20Drive/Arfon-JPEGS/RG26/COMMODORE%20PERRY//vol175/vol175_055_1.jpg
In
the 8 am to 4 pm section there appears to be recorded: "In forenoon,
Surgeon Hawley attended court at Unalaska as witness in murder case."
There
were no further details on that date, and I was curious if anyone else
had come across some information from a previous log entry. I am
assuming the murder was a "local" affair (in Dutch Harbor) and did not
involve members of the Perry.
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I vaguely remember something about that, rbertin. The Bear was
probably involved in the investigation but this is too far back in my
transcribed pages for me to check. I think you are right that it was a
local affair.
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Searching the Alaskan archives and Library of Congress newspaper archives also comes up blank for mention of a murder trial.
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I didn't have any luck searching either, but I did find these log pages:
Previous page
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Commodore%20perry//Volumes/Seagate%20Backup%20Plus%20Drive/Arfon-JPEGS/RG26/COMMODORE%20PERRY//vol175/vol175_054_1.jpg
US Deputy Marshall Richards and witnesses leaving the ship.
(the other people, are from a survey party)
Further back:
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Commodore%20perry//Volumes/Seagate%20Backup%20Plus%20Drive/Arfon-JPEGS/RG26/COMMODORE%20PERRY//vol175/vol175_047_1.jpg
Deputy Marshal Richards left vessel to go to Nushagak to arrest a native accused of murder.
...
At 12:30, tug Queen returned with Special Agent and boarding officer and Deputy Marshal.
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d0cent
Welcome back ! ! !
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larryw
Welcome back ! ! !
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A rather sad entry from the Bear's log on September 19th 1910 -
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USRC%20Bear/vol102/vol102_087_1.jpg
Lowered whaleboat. Navigator pulled in to wreck of USRC "Perry" to get photographs of same.
Possibly
the photos of the wreck shown on the Naval History page
(http://www.naval-history.net/OW-US/Perry/USRC_Perry.htm) as from the
scrapbook of E.P. Bertholf (Capt. of Bear in 1910).
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LarryW passes the 1500 mark!
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d0cent passes the 750 mark!
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http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Commodore%20perry//Volumes/Seagate%20Backup%20Plus%20Drive/Arfon-JPEGS/RG26/COMMODORE%20PERRY//vol176/vol176_010_1.jpg
July 16th, 1903
4PM to Mid F Gartered, bugler, deserted during the night
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I suppose he left without a note :D
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:P
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leelaht
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leelaht passes the 250, 500, and 750 marks!
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leelaht passes the 1000 mark!
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leelaht passes the 1500 mark!
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d0cent passes the 1000 mark!
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leelaht passes the 2000 mark!
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leelaht passes the 3000 mark!
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* Piping aboard Captain leelaht *
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mdmcdermitt
Welcome back !
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leelaht passes the 4000 mark!
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leelaht passes the 5000 mark!
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leelaht passes the 6000 mark!
leelaht passes the 7000 mark!
and
leelaht passes the 8000 mark!
Sorry :-[
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exim202
Welcome to the top 12 !
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:) Oh well just got on board this ship.... the date is
12/25/1904 in astoria oregon and I am shaking my head and yes LOL
On the miscellaneous events page. Oh lets see if this workshttp://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Commodore%20perry//Volumes/Seagate%20Backup%20Plus%20Drive/Arfon-JPEGS/RG26/COMMODORE%20PERRY//vol180/vol180_007_1.jpg Oh well kind of works. Zoom in
Absent without leave, 1/2 hour late and drunk and disorderly sounds like a typical Xmas day to me. ::)
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I have wondered about the term quarantine:
The restriction within limits awarded to naval cadets as a punishment.
Not my idea of a merry Christmas :-\
Though plenty of Christmas spirits ;)
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:) yes the word "quarantine" means different things. I
am assuming in these cases it is like being in the Brig. Not like a
health issue. Can anyone can shed some light on this?
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Oh I found this when I first started to transcribe on this
ship. I thought it was cool! maybe some will agree, then maybe not
:-\ Oct 2 1903
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Commodore%20perry//Volumes/Seagate%20Backup%20Plus%20Drive/Arfon-JPEGS/RG26/COMMODORE%20PERRY//vol176/vol176_090_1.jpg
at 1:30 a display of aurora borealis cool too 8) 8) 8)
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See Old Space Weather: sightings of aurorae and sunspots (http://forum.oldweather.org/index.php?topic=3670.0)
That would really be neat!
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We copy those observations to Old Space Weather: sightings of
aurorae and sunspots
(http://forum.oldweather.org/index.php?topic=3670.0) thread because
scientists on the SolarStormwatch
(https://www.zooniverse.org/project/solarstormwatch) zoo come here
periodically to get that info and use it in their research. Nice
to have our work be useful in various places. :)
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We
copy those observations to Old Space Weather: sightings of aurorae and
sunspots (http://forum.oldweather.org/index.php?topic=3670.0) thread
because scientists on the SolarStormwatch
(https://www.zooniverse.org/project/solarstormwatch) zoo come here
periodically to get that info and use it in their research. Nice
to have our work be useful in various places. :)
;D ok did so thanks.
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exim202 passes the 500 mark!
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leelaht passes the 10,000 mark!
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:) Can not make out what is written at 8pm under the wind section??
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Commodore%20perry//Volumes/Seagate%20Backup%20Plus%20Drive/Arfon-JPEGS/RG26/COMMODORE%20PERRY//vol180/vol180_029_0.jpg
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Looks to me like a corrected error - first he wrote 'calm' then he
erased it and dittoed the 'NE' above. The force 2 looks unchanged,
and a 'calm' of force 2 may have given him second thoughts.
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Looks
to me like a corrected error - first he wrote 'calm' then he erased it
and dittoed the 'NE' above. The force 2 looks unchanged, and a
'calm' of force 2 may have given him second thoughts.
Oh
ok that make sense. I quick question here is it common for pay
raises to be mentioned in the logs? Is this something of interest to
anyone? Like should it me marked under events? :-\
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;D Oh I think I have a event :-\ well maybe. You guys be the
judge. Ship got telegram to search for the steamer (Melville
Dollar) That left San Fransisco 8 days ago for Puget sound.
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Commodore%20perry//Volumes/Seagate%20Backup%20Plus%20Drive/Arfon-JPEGS/RG26/COMMODORE%20PERRY//vol180/vol180_031_1.jpg
At last we are moving. ::)
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Anything that interests you can be marked as an event. I put in lots of things - often on the Events tab.
We
like to get people's names and ships names (both on Mentions tab), so
the pay raise and search for the Melville Dollar would be welcome.
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Anything that interests you can be marked as an event. I put in lots of things - often on the Events tab.
We
like to get people's names and ships names (both on Mentions tab), so
the pay raise and search for the Melville Dollar would be welcome.
;D well lots of things interest me but I get your meaning thanks. :)
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It just depends how much you want to record ;D
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We all have different opinions on how much should be recorded.
Me, I only do sea ice and animals, because those are the only ones that are important for the science.
Everything else, I ignore - one of the reasons why I transcribe so much so fast.
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I also record fuel received. I don't know why they want that but it
could have something to do with research on GHG emissions.
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On the events page the date and location, if present, are required.
Anything else is voluntary, though ice and animals are strongly encouraged.
I
generally do everything we have tabs for and then I often transcribe
one watch per day (doing a different watch each day) just to give people
reading our transcriptions a taste for life on board.
I briefly tried transcribing the whole page, but that took too long - I am a lousy typist :(
Just remember that the rule is Type What You See. No summarizing, editing or correcting ;)
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Having just joined the Perry, I used URL editing to peek ahead at the log lengths.
Here's what I got:
180: 23 Dec 1904 - 1 July 1905 (where I am now - Feb 1905)
181: 2 July 1905 - 31 Dec 1905
182: 1 Jan 1906 - 7 July 1906
183: 9 July 1906 - 31 Dec 1906
184: Jan - June 1907
185: July - Dec 1907
186: Jan - June 1908
187: July - Dec 1908
188: Jan - June 1909
189: July - Dec 1909
190: Jan - June 1910
191: Jan - 18 July 1910
192: 1st - 29th July 1910
Note that batch 191 overlaps with both 190 and 192!
As far as I can tell, 190 and 192 are easier to read.
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190 and 192 cover every date between them, if they have the better handwriting, you got lucky.
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Yes, they do have the better handwriting - and the weather data is easier to read too.
As far as I can tell, the data is also absolutely identical - so it would be OK to skip through volume 191, correct?
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"As far as I can tell, the data is also absolutely identical - so it would be OK to skip through volume 191, correct?"
Yes, that is my understanding.
I will mention it to Gina.
Let me know what happens when you get there.
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elizabeth
Welcome to the top 12 !
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elizabeth
Welcome to the top 12 !
;D ;D ;D
:)The what???
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You now show up here: http://www.oldweather.org/ships/523c928e68f4b82a89000002
Perry's crew
The crew of this ship for the current voyage
Well, you did ;D
Better get back to work!
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Hanibal94
Welcome to the top 12 !
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:o :o :o
leelaht, d0cent, exim202, Hanibal94, eikwar, mdmcdermitt, and elizabeth!
Perry is suddenly a very popular ship!
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Hanibal94 passes the 500 mark!
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:o :o :o
leelaht, d0cent, exim202, Hanibal94, eikwar, mdmcdermitt, and elizabeth!
Perry is suddenly a very popular ship!
I
have no idea why - me, I joined because she has far fewer WR/day than
usual, and because she's the smallest ship available according to my
guestimations.
Gotta admit, I've been in the Arctic for so long on
the Pioneer, bear and Unalga that it's starting to feel like a second
home - by now, I know way more about the geography of the Alaskan coast
than I will ever need in real life!
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Perhaps because she has relatively easy to read logs?
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;D LOL that helps ... I am on a ship with no captain !! He was
given leave I believe so the 1st lieutenant seems to be taking the ship
on a joy ride!! Now I have to look up the location of where they are
now. OH the drama.. ::)
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elizabeth passes the 500 mark!
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Hanibal94 hits the 1000 mark!
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Well, this is lovely - suddenly all this activity! I was beginning
to think Perry was the new Marie Celeste ;D. Apart from leelaht of
course - awesome WR rate!!
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You are doing pretty well yourself ;D
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Hanibal94 passes the 1500 mark!
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Handwriting problem! Any idea what the Flyer is carrying (bottom of page, "Boarded and Examined:.. , ~~? + passengers"?
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Commodore%20perry//Volumes/Seagate%20Backup%20Plus%20Drive/Arfon-JPEGS/RG26/COMMODORE%20PERRY//vol180/vol180_086_1.jpg
and a similar one for the Alliance at
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Commodore%20perry//Volumes/Seagate%20Backup%20Plus%20Drive/Arfon-JPEGS/RG26/COMMODORE%20PERRY//vol180/vol180_085_1.jpg
Thanks.
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I think it is Mdse. for Merchandise.
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Hanibal94 passes the 2000, 2500, and 3000 marks!
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elizabeth passes the 750 mark!
(http://www.desismileys.com/smileys/desismileys_3266.gif) (http://www.desismileys.com/)
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:o :o Well ok tell me how did I get from April 1905 to January
1905. For it appears to be one page?? Then back again?
Please tell me I did not brake something? Does this happened often or
Just to me......... :-\
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Please give me the jpg links ;)
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:) Oh the links Yes that would help. Hmmm working on it.
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well this the next page I am to classify.
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Commodore%20perry//Volumes/Seagate%20Backup%20Plus%20Drive/Arfon-JPEGS/RG26/COMMODORE%20PERRY//vol180/vol180_125_0.jpg
as you can see Seattle WA
This was the last page I classified
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Commodore%20perry//Volumes/Seagate%20Backup%20Plus%20Drive/Arfon-JPEGS/RG26/COMMODORE%20PERRY//vol180/vol180_124_0.jpg
oh and this was the one before
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Commodore%20perry//Volumes/Seagate%20Backup%20Plus%20Drive/Arfon-JPEGS/RG26/COMMODORE%20PERRY//vol180/vol180_123_0.jpg
Oh I do hope this works :-\ :-\ :-\ Oh I just know I broke
something :'(
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Very strange, but nothing you did! ;D
Congratulations on catching this error!!!
All I can say for now is TWYS ;)
I
will notify Gina at the archives to see if it is a problem with the way
the images were made or were loaded. Someone's grog ration is going to
be reduced! Tabbing back and forth between the images it appears that 11
January is a different log book.
I will also warn Philip about the problem with the data integrity.
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I encountered that too, but I didn't even notice it was a technical
issue - I thought the log keeper had made a really bad mistake, and the
pages I skipped had been done by someone else (Actually, I 'd gotten
into the second stream by this point - I just thought I was still in the
third).
Here's the order of stuff in My Pages:
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Commodore%20perry//Volumes/Seagate%20Backup%20Plus%20Drive/Arfon-JPEGS/RG26/COMMODORE%20PERRY//vol180/vol180_122_1.jpg
- 19 April 1905
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Commodore%20perry//Volumes/Seagate%20Backup%20Plus%20Drive/Arfon-JPEGS/RG26/COMMODORE%20PERRY//vol180/vol180_123_1.jpg
- 20 April 1905
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Commodore%20perry//Volumes/Seagate%20Backup%20Plus%20Drive/Arfon-JPEGS/RG26/COMMODORE%20PERRY//vol180/vol180_124_1.jpg
- 11 Jan 1905
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Commodore%20perry//Volumes/Seagate%20Backup%20Plus%20Drive/Arfon-JPEGS/RG26/COMMODORE%20PERRY//vol180/vol180_125_1.jpg
- 22 Apr 1905
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Commodore%20perry//Volumes/Seagate%20Backup%20Plus%20Drive/Arfon-JPEGS/RG26/COMMODORE%20PERRY//vol180/vol180_126_1.jpg
- 23 Apr 905
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:) oh cool! did google Flavel Oregon for the location on the
odd page. some interesting stuff came up will check it out .. "hatcher"
Haryy Flavel live with his sister .......at the time of infamous
stabbing.... Interesting but I am sure nothing that we need to dwell
about I am sure. ::)
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Interesting for some people, perhaps, but not for me.
I do not care at all for the people, events, everyday life at sea or any of the other history parts of this project.
All I care for is the science, so I focus entirely on pumping out as many transcriptions as fast as I can.
Gotta
admit, I'm really enjoying the Perry - haven't even been here a whole
week, and I've passed everybody except Captain leelaht.
At this rate, I'll be done with the ship by the end of the month.
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Interesting for some people, perhaps, but not for me.
I do not care at all for the people, events, everyday life at sea or any of the other history parts of this project.
All I care for is the science, so I focus entirely on pumping out as many transcriptions as fast as I can.
Gotta
admit, I'm really enjoying the Perry - haven't even been here a whole
week, and I've passed everybody except Captain leelaht.
At this rate, I'll be done with the ship by the end of the month.
::) ::) ::) of course you will ;D What is your secret??? :P Just kidding ;) :-*
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I joined to help the scientists, and that is still my main goal, but
I have to admit that it is the events pages that I find the most
interesting.
As they say, "It takes all kinds" ;D
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I have several secrets, actually. The most important ones are:
1.
Quick fingers - I can sometimes do a whole pages without looking at the
keyboard and without making any mistakes. I can also do a 6 WR page in
less than 60 seconds, or a 24 WR page in about 3 minutes 30 seconds.
2. Incredible devotion - there are times when I just don't stop because I'm so stubborn and tenacious:
... Mainly due to me transcribing 2305 WR in a single day (new personal record!)
Whew,
what a day ... I just did all of July, August and September 1919 in one
night. Now it's 1.30 am and I'm getting exhausted without the
transcribing to distract me from my own fatigue.
Better get some sleep. Good night.
3. The praise of fellow transcribers - love getting that!
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I
joined to help the scientists, and that is still my main goal, but I
have to admit that it is the events pages that I find the most
interesting.
As they say, "It takes all kinds" ;D
Oh yes I agree. To help the scientists. But in my case I
also like the History. So I go on doing the weather reports but I
like reading the logs also. ;D ::) Which of course slow
things down. ;)
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Oh, and my very unusual religious beliefs also play a role - Click
here for details
(http://forum.oldweather.org/index.php?topic=4013.msg88437#msg88437)
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I have several secrets, actually. The most important ones are:
1.
Quick fingers - I can sometimes do a whole pages without looking at the
keyboard and without making any mistakes. I can also do a 6 WR page in
less than 60 seconds, or a 24 WR page in about 3 minutes 30 seconds.
2. Incredible devotion - there are times when I just don't stop because I'm so stubborn and tenacious:
... Mainly due to me transcribing 2305 WR in a single day (new personal record!)
Whew,
what a day ... I just did all of July, August and September 1919 in one
night. Now it's 1.30 am and I'm getting exhausted without the
transcribing to distract me from my own fatigue.
Better get some sleep. Good night.
3. The praise of fellow transcribers - love getting that!
;D You are awesome. 8) Get some sleep
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I
joined to help the scientists, and that is still my main goal, but I
have to admit that it is the events pages that I find the most
interesting.
As they say, "It takes all kinds" ;D
Oh yes I agree. To help the scientists. But in my case I
also like the History. So I go on doing the weather reports but I
like reading the logs also. ;D ::) Which of course slow
things down. ;)
As long as you stay with it!
(For me the events help avoid burnout on the weather ;))
And, post interesting finds! That brings the ship to life for everyone ;)
:) oh cool! did google Flavel Oregon for the location on the odd page.
some interesting stuff came up will check it out .. "hatcher" Haryy
Flavel live with his sister .......at the time of infamous stabbing....
Interesting but I am sure nothing that we need to dwell about I am
sure. ::)
Feel free to add Flavel to http://forum.oldweather.org/index.php?topic=3652.0 ;)
;D ;D ;D
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Thanks, Liz - but it's actually noon right now where I live. That
sentence about getting sleep was from a quote, one that I originally
posted late at night earlier this year.
Oh, and whatever you do, do not
get discouraged or feel bad about yourself for not being as prolific as
me. Old Weather needs all the help it can get, and every contribution
counts, no matter how small.
For
example: propriome (Matteo) has been working on the Unalga for a very
long time. He transcribes EVERYTHING from the Remarks pages, so he's no
speedster - but even so, he's got over 30.000 WR to his name and thus
has done enough to be one of the Top Twelve Transcribers.
So please don't give up. We need you. The scientists needs you. The planet needs you.
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BTW, here is the page from January:
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Commodore%20perry//Volumes/Seagate%20Backup%20Plus%20Drive/Arfon-JPEGS/RG26/COMMODORE%20PERRY//vol180/vol180_024_1.jpg
It appears to be the identical page but a different scan ::)
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Thanks,
Liz - but it's actually noon right now where I live. That sentence
about getting sleep was from a quote, one that I originally posted late
at night earlier this year.
Oh, and whatever you do, do not
get discouraged or feel bad about yourself for not being as prolific as
me. Old Weather needs all the help it can get, and every contribution
counts, no matter how small.
For
example: propriome (Matteo) has been working on the Unalga for a very
long time. He transcribes EVERYTHING from the Remarks pages, so he's no
speedster - but even so, he's got over 30.000 WR to his name and thus
has done enough to be one of the Top Twelve Transcribers.
So please don't give up. We need you. The scientists needs you. The planet needs you.
LOL
My dear young person I have been around for awhile here and on other
zoo's I can assure you I will not give up. ;)
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But you were away from OW for a long time :(
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But you were away from OW for a long time :(
:( Yes for a long time I felt I was not welcomed here. A long time ago. maybe I am now. :)
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You certainly are!!!
If someone gives you trouble, we'll just
send in some of Hanibal94's friends
http://forum.oldweather.org/index.php?topic=3551.msg85210#msg85210 ;)
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You sure are welcome, Elizabeth! It's great to read about your
discoveries. I usually don't take much time to post events, especially
on survey ships like the one I'm doing now (off the coast of
California). I find the voyages to the north the most interesting and I
am looking forward to getting back up there (vicariously, at least). But
I tend to specialize on transcribing weather, like Hanibal.
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You are very welcome, Elizabeth!! :)
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You're always welcome here, Liz. :)
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exim202 passes the 750 mark!
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46% Complete!
It seems to me that yesterday morning it was only 42%
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I find the voyages to the north the most interesting and I am looking forward to getting back up there (vicariously, at least).
That's how I felt when I was doing the Unalga and she went to the Caribbean for Sep 1930 - June 1933!
Guess we high-power WR transcribers all like the frozen North best.
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Hanibal94 passes the 4000 mark!
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Yes, they do have the better handwriting - and the weather data is easier to read too.
As far as I can tell, the data is also absolutely identical - so it would be OK to skip through volume 191, correct?
Gina replies:
Volume
191 is a rough log. In fact, according to the shipment spreadsheet
prepared by Elizabeth, that volume was not included in the shipment to
OW; it only went to the National Archives. Since Hanibal 94 was able to
access that volume, the spreadsheet must be incorrect.
I'll ask Chris to deactivate Volume 191 of Perry.
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Hanibal94 passes the 5000 mark!
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Just had a moment of sheer pleasure. I'm sure you'd all like to know more - so go to
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Commodore%20perry//Volumes/Seagate%20Backup%20Plus%20Drive/Arfon-JPEGS/RG26/COMMODORE%20PERRY//vol180/vol180_161_0.jpg
and check out the elegance of the logkeeper's handwriting! Weather obs. never looked so good! Mmmh!
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Beautiful!
And, so are the events!
(If you haven't seen it
already, you might find this useful: How to look at log pages before
and after the one you are working on
(http://forum.oldweather.org/index.php?topic=3489.msg62863#msg62863))
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??? You've lost me there - what events? I've been doing the
pages before and after and they are just in port - unless I've missed
something??
:-[ Oh, yeah, just checked the page numbers - there's a gap... I'll try the viewing instructions...
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Sorry for the confusion, I meant the following page
(http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Commodore%20perry//Volumes/Seagate%20Backup%20Plus%20Drive/Arfon-JPEGS/RG26/COMMODORE%20PERRY//vol180/vol180_161_1.jpg)
with the: RECORD OF THE MISCELLANEOUS EVENTS OF THE DAY
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50% Complete!!!
That was really fast - it wasn't even 40% when I joined last week on Wednesday!
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elizabeth passes the 1000 mark!
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50 51 52% Complete!!!
That was really fast - it wasn't even 40% when I joined last week on Wednesday!
;D
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Hanibal94 passes the 6000 mark!
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??? You've lost me there - what events? I've been doing the pages
before and after and they are just in port - unless I've missed
something??
:-[ Oh, yeah, just checked the page numbers - there's a gap... I'll try the viewing instructions...
I just noticed your addition. I think I know what is happening.
Each
page is transcribed three times. The pages you, elizabeth, and d0cent
are getting have already been transcribed by leelaht and Hanibal94. So,
the three of you are the "third" transcriber. This means that you may
skip a page if someone else has already done it. You might want to try
coordinating your working times a little bit.
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:) Oh an event (after six months at sea I get something
that is interesting to me) Four Japanese ships given 24 hours to leave
the Harbor. Appears they where fishing for Salmon in US waters.
::) Makes me think nothing has changed much since 1905 ::)
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Commodore%20perry//Volumes/Seagate%20Backup%20Plus%20Drive/Arfon-JPEGS/RG26/COMMODORE%20PERRY//vol180/vol180_191_1.jpg
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Thanks for sharing it
;D
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Thanks for sharing it
;D
I
bet you are all real happy that I did not share all the events of
the ship bringing clothes and stuff to the natives gathered by the
women of the times. ;)
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That is important too! ;)
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:) Just wondering why they would set clocks ahead 20 minutes? Is this common? Is it a sailing thing?
10.20 set clocks ahead 20 minutes
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Commodore%20perry//Volumes/Seagate%20Backup%20Plus%20Drive/Arfon-JPEGS/RG26/COMMODORE%20PERRY//vol181/vol181_014_1.jpg
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When sailing at sea, they track time by the sun instead of zones,
adjusting to local time when at port or near shoreline. See
OWpedia
(http://forum.oldweather.org/index.php?topic=3209.msg95478#msg95478):
Time
Ships keep local time wherever they are, so on a voyage the clocks may
change daily. When clocks are put back it makes the watch longer, very
unpopular as you can imagine, so it was often done in in two stages,
once in the first dog watch (4-pm to 6pm) and once in the second,
(6-8pm). [dorbel]
AND
Before the days of GPS, the only way to find
local time at sea was to shoot the sun, that is to use a sextant to
find the moment when the sun is at an angle of 90 degrees to the visible
horizon. If either is not visible, you don't know when local noon is
and you can't reset your ship clocks. Perhaps in those circumstances you
might note an important time in GMT, which you have on your
chronometers.
It occurs to me that an exact time of rendezvouz or
when to expect a signal might well be given in GMT to avoid confusion,
but I don't know that. [dorbel]
AND
A.T.S. - Apparent Time at
Ship, S.A.T. - Ship's Apparent Time, MTS - ? -- "Ship's time: the local
mean time of the meridian where a ship is located.
"Before 1920, all
ships kept local apparent time on the high seas by setting their clocks
at night or at the morning sight so that, given the ship's speed and
direction, it would be 12 o'clock when the Sun crossed the ship's
meridian (12 o'clock = local apparent noon)."
http://www.exactspent.com/time_zone.htm" [lollia paolina]
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:) Thanks for the link and info. I just knew there had to be a
reason. Learn something new everyday around here.
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The learning never stops - I'm still learning new things here. ;)
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Same here, Janet!
Glad you are having fun and contributing to the Discussion topic, elizabeth!
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Hanibal94 passes the 7000 and 8000 marks!
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:) Well now the thread does say Questions and comments.
So maybe it is ok to post this here. I was doing weather reports
and came across the location of "Deadman's Reach Alaska"
::) Wondered to myself why in heck did they name it
that? ??? so did a tiny bit of looking
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peril_Strait
:-\ I really do not want the ship to go to Poison Cove :o
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So maybe it is ok to post this here.
Not just OK, but requested!
That is the kind of thing that brings this ship to life for all transcribers.
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:-\ I really do not want the ship to go to Poison Cove :o
How about Strawberry Point, Raspberry Island?
Would you like it better there, Liz?
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Commodore%20perry//Volumes/Seagate%20Backup%20Plus%20Drive/Arfon-JPEGS/RG26/COMMODORE%20PERRY//vol186/vol186_152_0.jpg
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I would!
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elizabeth passes the 1500 mark!
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:-\ I really do not want the ship to go to Poison Cove :o
How about Strawberry Point, Raspberry Island?
Would you like it better there, Liz?
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Commodore%20perry//Volumes/Seagate%20Backup%20Plus%20Drive/Arfon-JPEGS/RG26/COMMODORE%20PERRY//vol186/vol186_152_0.jpg
:) Raspberry Island looks like a nice place to visit.
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Raspberry Island: http://mapcarta.com/24090622
Strawberry Point is more commonly known as Raspberry Cape: http://mapcarta.com/24090620
See
Geographic Dictionary of Alaska Jumbo (page 339 (1)) to Zutchwik (page
690 (336)) in Alaskan Place Names -- Reference
(http://forum.oldweather.org/index.php?topic=3644.0)
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:) Oh a quick question here. I know there is a crews
list thread, but I do not think this question belongs there. Where would
one fine out about Special Agents? (Or DA for that matter). That
seems (at least the Special Agent) appears to be spending a lot of time
on the ship and is mention in many of the logs. What I wonder what is
his role or job? Oh I known you want a link with this guy"s name
etc. I will find them tomorrow. ::) Just thought I
would throw out the question hoping for someone who had read the logs
and could give me a quick answer. ;)
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Here's something neat: While updating my guestimations
(http://forum.oldweather.org/index.php?topic=3551.0), I noticed that the
Perry received an enormous boost over the past week:
Old value: 28.123/66.960 WR transcribed, 42% complete
New value: 39.950/67.712 WR transcribed, 59% complete
In other words, we transcribed over TEN THOUSAND weather readings in just the past seven days.
I am very impressed - thanks to all who contributed to this!
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Oh I known you want a link with this guy"s name etc.
Afraid so ;)
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Oh I known you want a link with this guy"s name etc.
Afraid so ;)
::) oh i just knew it (banging my head against the wall) keeps the grey
matter intact you know. I will make a point to go back and
find this guys name etc. It should not be to hard. But got crash
here work soon.
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Have any of you guys transcribing through 1906 come across the time
when they discovered Perry Island (a volcanic island, freshly emerged)?
Could you post the links please?
I'll try and attach a photo of the ship's officers in front of the island.. Technology is not my strong point ::)
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Have
any of you guys transcribing through 1906 come across the time when
they discovered Perry Island (a volcanic island, freshly emerged)? Could
you post the links please?
Do you know the exact date of discovery? If so, I could dig it up - but I didn't notice it myself when I transcribed that year.
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No I don't, sorry! Have had a search but didn't come up with anything except the year..
Oh, have just had a closer look at the photo - says (I think) spring of 1906.
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Seems to be March: http://www.jstor.org/stable/207507
Here is
another view of the post card:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Postcard-Perry-Island-Bogosloff-Group-Behring-Sea-Volcano-Alaska-1906-/221504954047
Or 18 April?
1906
" (April 18) By volcanic action, an island arose from the sea in the
Aleutian group, Alaska, on the morning of the above date. This latest
accession to the U. S. territory is called "Perry Island"; it contains
about 17 acres; its highest point is about 700 feet elevation. Four
months later, it was still piping hot
But, that is the formation of the island, not the date of the photo :-\
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How about this?
ASCEND NEWLY FOUND PEAK
Officers of the Revenue Cutter Perry Declare Clouds of Sulphurous Fumes Can Be Seen for . , Thirty Miles ' : '
By Associated Press,
WASHINGTON,
Aug. 24.? The treasury department today received a brief report of a
visit- made by the officers of the revenue cutter Perry a few weeks ago
to the new peak which recently sprang up on Fire island, one of the
Bogoslov group of the Aleutian islands, about sixty miles west of the
town of Unalaska, Alaska. . -
The southern end of the fire Island
consists of two long spits from a half to three-eighths of a mile in
length, and about 15 feet above high water.
On the western spit
the new volcanic peak has sprung up, rising abruptly from the water to a
height of 700 feet and in shape resembling a monster beehive, with a
base about 900 feet in diameter.
From numerous crevices columns
of steam and sulphurous fumos continuously rise and form a cloud which
is visible for more than 30 miles.
Although tMe surface of the new peak was warm and soft in places, the officers succeeded In reaching the summit.
In
recognition of the fact that the officers of the revenue cutter ' Perry
were the first persons to visit, the new peak they named 1t "Perry
peak."'
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:) Now this is 8) 8) stuff!
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darn, I missed it. I typically don't read the narrative parts that closely... :(
So Elizabeth I'm glad it's something you like doing and hope you get to transcribe the event!
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We notify various gov't agencies (Alaska Volcano Observatory
(http://www.avo.alaska.edu/volcanoes/eruptsearch.php), US Geologic
Survey, and UK Climatologist at University of Reading studying effects
of volcanic activity on weather) of any volcanic activity recorded in
our ship logs. The AVO regularly updates their public records to
include our data. They didn't post that postcard yet because we
havn't been able to give them any lat/long for this island but they have
the postcard image in their active records looking for more precise
information. If anyone finds specific log records of this
discovered temporary island, please post it here so I can send it on to
them!!!
http://forum.oldweather.org/index.php?topic=384.msg87165#msg87165
They
did provide us with the original photo for the postcard.
http://vilda.alaska.edu/cdm/singleitem/collection/cdmg11/id/461/rec/6
Note:
this is typical of the updates AVO makes to their historic records:
http://www.avo.alaska.edu/volcanoes/activity.php?volcname=Shishaldin&page=basic&eruptionid=356
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Oh I known you want a link with this guy"s name etc.
Afraid so ;)
::) oh i just knew it (banging my head against the wall) keeps the grey
matter intact you know. I will make a point to go back and
find this guys name etc. It should not be to hard. But got crash
here work soon.
Well that took Forever but went back to some logs pages and found the
name Special Agent Kutchin Like I said mention a few time in
the logs.
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Commodore%20perry//Volumes/Seagate%20Backup%20Plus%20Drive/Arfon-JPEGS/RG26/COMMODORE%20PERRY//vol181/vol181_033_1.jpg
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A google search with: special agent kutchin 1905
found
The
Fishermen's Frontier: people and salmon in Southeast Alaska
(http://books.google.fr/books?id=iyE91cOWY0gC&pg=PA212&lpg=PA212&dq=special+agent+kutchin+1905&source=bl&ots=KLuEIoHM8z&sig=MKcoxrwHDwnI9cht8NbN7ACthNc&hl=en&sa=X&ei=Mi1fVOyzKMLpaN7igJgD&ved=0CCMQ6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=special%20agent%20kutchin%201905&f=false)
and
Alaska
and the U.S. Revenue Cutter Service, 1867-1915
(http://books.google.fr/books?id=VSx7-ZqB1C0C&pg=PA112&lpg=PA112&dq=special+agent+kutchin+1905&source=bl&ots=aOb932cF0A&sig=4NRNk1uUgOZ81sqY_U7OoIH4JFs&hl=en&sa=X&ei=Mi1fVOyzKMLpaN7igJgD&ved=0CCYQ6AEwAQ#v=onepage&q=special%20agent%20kutchin%201905&f=false)
;D
That told me he worked for the Bureau of Fisheries. A second search with: special agent kutchin fisheries
found a lot more - if you are really interested ::)
(Most of what I know about internet searching was learned from fellow OWaholics ;))
I see you found one of those already! (http://www.desismileys.com/smileys/desismileys_3266.gif) (http://www.desismileys.com/)
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;D ;D ;D ;D ;D Found him! lets see if this works :-\
http://books.google.com/books?id=VXYmAQAAMAAJ&pg=PA55&lpg=PA55&dq=Special+Agent+Kutchin+alaska+treasury+department&source=bl&ots=GTNwOzGWyZ&sig=W6PsBUPCIffQasyeA4sKT5hwrQo&hl=en&sa=X&ei=nS1fVIC7AaT-iAKrj4GwDA&ved=0CCMQ6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=Special%20Agent%20Kutchin%20alaska%20treasury%20department&f=false
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A google search with: special agent kutchin 1905
found
The
Fishermen's Frontier: people and salmon in Southeast Alaska
(http://books.google.fr/books?id=iyE91cOWY0gC&pg=PA212&lpg=PA212&dq=special+agent+kutchin+1905&source=bl&ots=KLuEIoHM8z&sig=MKcoxrwHDwnI9cht8NbN7ACthNc&hl=en&sa=X&ei=Mi1fVOyzKMLpaN7igJgD&ved=0CCMQ6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=special%20agent%20kutchin%201905&f=false)
and
Alaska
and the U.S. Revenue Cutter Service, 1867-1915
(http://books.google.fr/books?id=VSx7-ZqB1C0C&pg=PA112&lpg=PA112&dq=special+agent+kutchin+1905&source=bl&ots=aOb932cF0A&sig=4NRNk1uUgOZ81sqY_U7OoIH4JFs&hl=en&sa=X&ei=Mi1fVOyzKMLpaN7igJgD&ved=0CCYQ6AEwAQ#v=onepage&q=special%20agent%20kutchin%201905&f=false)
;D
oh this is great you found him too! :) Aswesome!
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;D
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darn, I missed it. I typically don't read the narrative parts that closely... :(
So Elizabeth I'm glad it's something you like doing and hope you get to transcribe the event!
Oh good gosh it just hit me you are the CAPTAIN. Well sir
will be getting back to those weather reports right away! Sir ( oh and
would be so 8) to transcribe the events.)
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Hanibal94 passes the 9000 and 10,000 marks!
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darn, I missed it. I typically don't read the narrative parts that closely... :(
So Elizabeth I'm glad it's something you like doing and hope you get to transcribe the event!
Oh good gosh it just hit me you are the CAPTAIN. Well sir
will be getting back to those weather reports right away! Sir ( oh and
would be so 8) to transcribe the events.)
Well, captain for a little while longer, Hanibal will probably pass me later this week. ;)
Between the three of us, and whatever extra help we get, Perry will finish up soon. ;D
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Oh
good gosh it just hit me you are the CAPTAIN. Well sir will
be getting back to those weather reports right away! Sir ( oh and would
be so 8) to transcribe the events.)
Well, captain for a little while longer, Hanibal will probably pass me later this week. ;)
Between the three of us, and whatever extra help we get, Perry will finish up soon. ;D
That depends on how much you have left, leelaht - I still got all of 1909 and Jan - July 1910 to do.
So maybe I won't manage to pass you - but whatever happens, I will finish my stream this coming week. That's a promise.
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At my typical rate, I'll finish in 6 days. But Tuesday is a holiday, so could be sooner.
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darn, I missed it. I typically don't read the narrative parts that closely... :(
So Elizabeth I'm glad it's something you like doing and hope you get to transcribe the event!
Oh good gosh it just hit me you are the CAPTAIN. Well sir
will be getting back to those weather reports right away! Sir ( oh and
would be so 8) to transcribe the events.)
Well, captain for a little while longer, Hanibal will probably pass me later this week. ;)
Between the three of us, and whatever extra help we get, Perry will finish up soon. ;D
oh :( but I just got started.
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Don't worry, Liz - leelaht was just exaggerating.
She and I will both finish our streams soon, but that's just because we're so far ahead, and we're very prolific transcribers.
Given
your rate, and those of the other people you're sharing the third
stream with, I would estimate you'll still be busy with the Perry for a
couple months worth of real time.
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Don't worry, Liz - leelaht was just exaggerating.
She and I will both finish our streams soon, but that's just because we're so far ahead, and we're very prolific transcribers.
Given
your rate, and those of the other people you're sharing the third
stream with, I would estimate you'll still be busy with the Perry for a
couple months worth of real time.
Oh that is a little bit better :)
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The Perry is the smallest ship currently available, and she often
has less than 24 WR/day. So she's not actually a good choice if you want
to stick with the same ship for a long time.
For details on the other ships, such as size, check this out: http://forum.oldweather.org/index.php?topic=3551.0
And also:
Jamestown (1866), Jamestown (1879), Perry and Thetis are good ships for new transcribers.
Concord
is easy to read, but the current logbook has lengthy comments and
inserts. Transcribing the comments is optional, but those preferring to
concentrate on the weather data might want to choose another ship.
Jamestown (1844)
is generally recommended only for experienced transcribers because it
is very different from the log shown in the tutorial and the order of
the columns in the log may not match that of the Weather Observation
tab. Also, it sometimes uses "nautical days". (http://forum.oldweather.org/index.php?topic=3209.msg52132#msg52132)
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Thanks, Hanibal94 ;D
Any of the 1-star ships at http://www.oldweather.org/ships/ are generally good for new transcribers. Log keepers can change for the better or the worse ;). Also, personal preference is a major factor!
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Glad we still have a bit of time on Perry, leapfrogging or not!
Just came across a sad event (edited here):
Suspended
work. At 2:30 four officers and as many of crew as could be spared left
vessel to participate in funeral ceremony of late Lieut. J.V. Wild.
Half masted flag between three and four during funeral.
Commanding Officer shipped remains of Lieut. Wild to Capt. J.F. Wild, Baltimore, Maryland.
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Commodore%20perry//Volumes/Seagate%20Backup%20Plus%20Drive/Arfon-JPEGS/RG26/COMMODORE%20PERRY//vol181/vol181_136_1.jpg
Anyone know what happened to him? How he died, I mean, not the fate of the body ???
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The article gives the date of death, so I edited the jpg
(http://forum.oldweather.org/index.php?topic=3489.msg62863#msg62863) to
find:
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Commodore%20perry//Volumes/Seagate%20Backup%20Plus%20Drive/Arfon-JPEGS/RG26/COMMODORE%20PERRY//vol181/vol181_128_1.jpg
and
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Commodore%20perry//Volumes/Seagate%20Backup%20Plus%20Drive/Arfon-JPEGS/RG26/COMMODORE%20PERRY//vol181/vol181_129_1.jpg
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Leelaht posted the death, and I copied her post with yours about the funeral in our Memorial topic, American Burials at sea and other recorded deaths...
(http://forum.oldweather.org/index.php?topic=3377.msg94679#msg94679)
For me at least, these crews feel like "ours" and it is good to honor
those who die in the line of duty. (See also RN Burials at sea and
other recorded deaths...
(http://forum.oldweather.org/index.php?topic=671.0))
Bad things happen in port too...
Perry 29/10/1905, Seattle Washington
This
day's watch was stood by Lieut JV Wild up to about 8:20 pm when
according to best information, he left the vessel in uniform informing
quartermaster that he was going up to the office (Moran Brothers) and
that he would be back in a few minutes. Quartermaster Mellick
inferred that he was going to telephone. He did not return at all,
and after going off watch at midnight Quartermaster Mellick went to the
office to enquire for Mr Wild. Watchman said no officer had
passed out the gate in uniform. These facts were reported to me
upon my arrival on board the morning of the 30th instant. CE
Johnston 1st Lieut.
Perry 30/10/1905, Seattle Washington (mid to 9 am)
No
line officer on board during this watch. Lieut JV Wild absent
since 8:20 last night, and alarm was felt that he might have fallen off
the dock. Upon return of Captain and Executive Officer
investigation was made and gear was prepared for dragging. CE
Johnston 1st Lieut.
Perry 30/10/1905, Seattle Washington (9am to 4pm)
Crew
employed dragging in vacinity searching for remain of Lieut JV
Wild. At 2:45 recovered body of Lieut Wild about 150 ft from gang
plank of ship in log basin on opposite side of wharf. Coroner was
notified and reviewed the remains about 3:15 after which they were
removed to the establishment of the Boney-Watson Co undertakers.
Examination revealed the fact that Lieut Wild struck his head in falling
and that death was undoubtedly accidental. Notified Captain JF
Wild USRCS, father of deceased and the department of the facts by wire.
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Commodore%20perry//Volumes/Seagate%20Backup%20Plus%20Drive/Arfon-JPEGS/RG26/COMMODORE%20PERRY//vol181/vol181_136_1.jpg
Perry 05/11/1905, Seattle Washington (9am to 4pm)
Suspended
work. At 2:30 four officers and as many of crew as could be spared left
vessel to participate in funeral ceremony of late Lieut. J.V. Wild.
Half masted flag between three and four during funeral.
(4pm to Midnight)
Commanding Officer shipped remains of Lieut. Wild to Capt. J.F. Wild, Baltimore, Maryland.
According to the Register of Washington Deaths, King County and family trees at Ancestry.com:
John V. Wild, born 1876, Revenue Cutter Service Officer
Father Capt. John F. Wild USRCS, Mother "Mary" Catherine Rollins
No spouse or children. He pre-deceased his father.
Buried at Saint Mary's City, Maryland, USA
Rest in Peace, John V. Wild
http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=55445363&ref=acom
(http://image2.findagrave.com/photos250/photos/2012/204/55445363_134306149167.jpg)
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Thanks, Janet. I thought I had read about it, but I only searched the Discussion topic, so I didn't find it.
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exim202 passes the 1000 mark!
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elizabeth passes the 2000 mark!
(http://www.desismileys.com/smileys/desismileys_3266.gif)
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Good work you two!
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Leelaht posted the death, and I copied her post with yours about the funeral in our Memorial topic, American Burials at sea and other recorded deaths...
(http://forum.oldweather.org/index.php?topic=3377.msg94679#msg94679)
For me at least, these crews feel like "ours" and it is good to honor
those who die in the line of duty. (See also RN Burials at sea and
other recorded deaths...
(http://forum.oldweather.org/index.php?topic=671.0))
Bad things happen in port too...
Perry 29/10/1905, Seattle Washington
This
day's watch was stood by Lieut JV Wild up to about 8:20 pm when
according to best information, he left the vessel in uniform informing
quartermaster that he was going up to the office (Moran Brothers) and
that he would be back in a few minutes. Quartermaster Mellick
inferred that he was going to telephone. He did not return at all,
and after going off watch at midnight Quartermaster Mellick went to the
office to enquire for Mr Wild. Watchman said no officer had
passed out the gate in uniform. These facts were reported to me
upon my arrival on board the morning of the 30th instant. CE
Johnston 1st Lieut.
Perry 30/10/1905, Seattle Washington (mid to 9 am)
No
line officer on board during this watch. Lieut JV Wild absent
since 8:20 last night, and alarm was felt that he might have fallen off
the dock. Upon return of Captain and Executive Officer
investigation was made and gear was prepared for dragging. CE
Johnston 1st Lieut.
Perry 30/10/1905, Seattle Washington (9am to 4pm)
Crew
employed dragging in vacinity searching for remain of Lieut JV
Wild. At 2:45 recovered body of Lieut Wild about 150 ft from gang
plank of ship in log basin on opposite side of wharf. Coroner was
notified and reviewed the remains about 3:15 after which they were
removed to the establishment of the Boney-Watson Co undertakers.
Examination revealed the fact that Lieut Wild struck his head in falling
and that death was undoubtedly accidental. Notified Captain JF
Wild USRCS, father of deceased and the department of the facts by wire.
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Commodore%20perry//Volumes/Seagate%20Backup%20Plus%20Drive/Arfon-JPEGS/RG26/COMMODORE%20PERRY//vol181/vol181_136_1.jpg
Perry 05/11/1905, Seattle Washington (9am to 4pm)
Suspended
work. At 2:30 four officers and as many of crew as could be spared left
vessel to participate in funeral ceremony of late Lieut. J.V. Wild.
Half masted flag between three and four during funeral.
(4pm to Midnight)
Commanding Officer shipped remains of Lieut. Wild to Capt. J.F. Wild, Baltimore, Maryland.
According to the Register of Washington Deaths, King County and family trees at Ancestry.com:
John V. Wild, born 1876, Revenue Cutter Service Officer
Father Capt. John F. Wild USRCS, Mother "Mary" Catherine Rollins
No spouse or children. He pre-deceased his father.
Buried at Saint Mary's City, Maryland, USA
Rest in Peace, John V. Wild
http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=55445363&ref=acom
(http://image2.findagrave.com/photos250/photos/2012/204/55445363_134306149167.jpg)
wow thanks for posting!
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:) Ok the ship had some very bad seas. At the end of November
of 1905 and what is in the log book. ::) Broken dishes. Of
course those dishes might be worth a lot of money in this day and
age. :-\
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exim202 passes the 1000 mark!
elizabeth passes the 2000 mark!
(http://www.desismileys.com/smileys/desismileys_3266.gif)
Congrats
both of you! I am very pleased to see some new faces who are sticking
with the project, rather than just doing one or two pages and leaving.
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Thanks Hanibal! ;)
:-[ BTW I removed my post about the heron incident. Seemed a bit insensitive, altho it wasn't meant that way.
And thanks, Randi and Janet for the links and info. Poor guy.
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:) can anyone make this out?
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Commodore%20perry//Volumes/Seagate%20Backup%20Plus%20Drive/Arfon-JPEGS/RG26/COMMODORE%20PERRY//vol181/vol181_185_0.jpg
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I'm pretty sure it's Tenasillahee, because there's a place called
Tenasillahe Island - it's in Oregon instead of Washington, but it is in
the right area.
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I'm
pretty sure it's Tenasillahee, because there's a place called
Tenasillahe Island - it's in Oregon instead of Washington, but it is in
the right area.
:) thanks that helps.
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:) Oh a interesting note by the captain.
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Commodore%20perry//Volumes/Seagate%20Backup%20Plus%20Drive/Arfon-JPEGS/RG26/COMMODORE%20PERRY//vol182/vol182_007_1.jpg
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8)
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:) Oh a interesting note by the captain.
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Commodore%20perry//Volumes/Seagate%20Backup%20Plus%20Drive/Arfon-JPEGS/RG26/COMMODORE%20PERRY//vol182/vol182_007_1.jpg
Oh
that is interesting! Nice to see them coming to the aid of
commercial ships too. Unfortunate that the telegraph office keeps
"banker's hours."
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Well working on the log starting Jan 01 1906.
Jan 4th 1906 .... then Jan 5th 1905 .... Jan 6th 1906.
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Commodore%20perry//Volumes/Seagate%20Backup%20Plus%20Drive/Arfon-JPEGS/RG26/COMMODORE%20PERRY//vol182/vol182_009_1.jpg
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That happens more often than you think - not just on the Perry, but elsewhere too.
Just transcribe it as written, no matter how dumb a mistake it is.
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That happens more often than you think - not just on the Perry, but elsewhere too.
Just transcribe it as written, no matter how dumb a mistake it is.
:) I did transcribe it as it was written.
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I just finished batch 190, and have been presented with batch 191, which is a duplicate.
Since the mods said it would be OK to skip through that batch (hit "I've Finished with this Page" without transcribing anything), I will do that.
[....]
190: Jan - June 1910
191: Jan - 18 July 1910
192: 1st - 29th July 1910
Note that batch 191 overlaps with both 190 and 192!
As far as I can tell, 190 and 192 are easier to read.
190 and 192 cover every date between them, if they have the better handwriting, you got lucky.
Yes, they do have the better handwriting - and the weather data is easier to read too.
As far as I can tell, the data is also absolutely identical - so it would be OK to skip through volume 191, correct?
"As far as I can tell, the data is also absolutely identical - so it would be OK to skip through volume 191, correct?"
Yes, that is my understanding.
I will mention it to Gina.
Let me know what happens when you get there.
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:) Yes me again can anyone read this name for me?
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Commodore%20perry//Volumes/Seagate%20Backup%20Plus%20Drive/Arfon-JPEGS/RG26/COMMODORE%20PERRY//vol182/vol182_029_0.jpg
Thanks
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:) Yes me again can anyone read this name for me?
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Commodore%20perry//Volumes/Seagate%20Backup%20Plus%20Drive/Arfon-JPEGS/RG26/COMMODORE%20PERRY//vol182/vol182_029_0.jpg
Thanks
Westport Reach, Oregon - is that the one you are asking about?
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:) Yes me again can anyone read this name for me?
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Commodore%20perry//Volumes/Seagate%20Backup%20Plus%20Drive/Arfon-JPEGS/RG26/COMMODORE%20PERRY//vol182/vol182_029_0.jpg
Thanks
Westport Reach, Oregon - is that the one you are asking about?
Yes thank you :( but it does not exist! Well as far as I can tell.
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It does seem to say Reach, but I think it may be Westport Beach
http://mapcarta.com/23866024 given the position of Three Tree Point -
http://www.geographic.org/geographic_names/usaname.php?uni=1509015&fid=usageo_1407
and the comment "stood down the river".
(have to catch the bus now)
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Hi there,
I'd say it's Westport Reach and will add it to
geonames... a Reach is a pretty broad term and can include a large area
between two points (which can be quite vague as well :-\ in their
definition).
In this case it should be the section of Columbia
River flowing in front of Westport (probably from Bugby Hole to Wallace
Island, or maybe it's just the actual Westport Turn and Range section of
river).
On modern maps (see
http://www.charts.noaa.gov/OnLineViewer/18523.shtml) this river section
has been divided in Wauna Range, Driscoll Range, Westport Turn and
Range, and Westport Channel.
On this 1911 map though the Westport Reach is still mentioned: http://historicalcharts.noaa.gov/historicals/preview/image/HPGI
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I'm all done! I finished my stream on the Perry, and got the message that says I can't do anymore! Woohoo!
Gotta
admit, this is one ship I'll be missing. She almost never had the full
24 WR, and progress was pretty fast because she was so small.
Unfortunately,
the Perry did not have a peaceful end like most of these ships - she
was wrecked on Tonki Point, St Paul's Island, on July 26th 1910 (Not the
27th - NavalHistory.net has it wrong!).
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Commodore%20perry//Volumes/Seagate%20Backup%20Plus%20Drive/Arfon-JPEGS/RG26/COMMODORE%20PERRY//vol192/vol192_030_1.jpg
Fortunately, the crew (and the logbook!) were saved by the Tahoma a few days later:
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Commodore%20perry//Volumes/Seagate%20Backup%20Plus%20Drive/Arfon-JPEGS/RG26/COMMODORE%20PERRY//vol192/vol192_033_1.jpg
However,
the Tahoma herself was also wrecked a few years later, and her crew
were saved by the Patterson (which did not get wrecked). Oops!
I'm
going for the Patterson next. She is also a ship with less than 24 WR /
day most of the time, and could use the help - those nonstandard logs
seem to be scaring people away, but I've done that stuff before on the
Pioneer, I can do it again.
I won't be doing her as intensively,
though - on the Perry, I was transcribing an average of over 1000 WR per
day, and the effort required to do that was beginning to take its toll
on me. I'd better cut back.
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I'm all done! I finished my stream on the Perry, and got the message that says I can't do anymore! Woohoo!
Gotta
admit, this is one ship I'll be missing. She almost never had the full
24 WR, and progress was pretty fast because she was so small.
Congratulations, Hanibal 8) 8) 8)
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Good work Hanibal94!
I'd better cut back.
Seems to me I have heard that before ;)
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Good work Hanibal94!
I'd better cut back.
Seems to me I have heard that before ;)
8) 8) 8)
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:( So here it is FEB 8th 1906 and they are still searching for
bodies from the wreck of S.S. Valencia and helping to secure the wreck
it seems.
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Commodore%20perry//Volumes/Seagate%20Backup%20Plus%20Drive/Arfon-JPEGS/RG26/COMMODORE%20PERRY//vol182/vol182_044_1.jpg
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The deaths of 136 persons very close to civilization made it a high
profile case. And it still lives as a "ghost ship" that still
allegedly haunts the area. Very tragic, as help arrived but the
weather and coastal rocks kept them helpless.
http://www.historylink.org/index.cfm?DisplayPage=output.cfm&file_id=7382
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The
deaths of 136 persons very close to civilization made it a high profile
case. And it still lives as a "ghost ship" that still allegedly
haunts the area. Very tragic, as help arrived but the weather and
coastal rocks kept them helpless.
http://www.historylink.org/index.cfm?DisplayPage=output.cfm&file_id=7382
Have poked around a little bit. this one surprised me.
In
1933, Valencia?s lifeboat No. 5 was found drifting in Barkley Sound,
still in good condition despite 27 years of exposure to the elements.
Part of the lifeboat, bearing the name Valencia, is on display at the
Maritime Museum of British Columbia in Victoria, B.C. 8) if true
have not got a chance to check it out.
:) Oh a interesting note by the captain.
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Commodore%20perry//Volumes/Seagate%20Backup%20Plus%20Drive/Arfon-JPEGS/RG26/COMMODORE%20PERRY//vol182/vol182_007_1.jpg
Oh
that is interesting! Nice to see them coming to the aid of
commercial ships too. Unfortunate that the telegraph office keeps
"banker's hours."
Just added this quote to say when it is a disaster everyone helps. Thank God! or whoever you believe in. ;)
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:) Feb 25th 1906 The crew got thank you letter for work on the Valencia wreck
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Commodore%20perry//Volumes/Seagate%20Backup%20Plus%20Drive/Arfon-JPEGS/RG26/COMMODORE%20PERRY//vol182/vol182_061_1.jpg
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Nice to see that it was officially appreciated.
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I might have seen this in earlier logs, but hadn't made a record of it...
23/5/1910 Captain F J Haake confined to cabin with muscular rheumatism.
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That must have been a misery!
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He wasn't back on the job until 5/29
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elizabeth passes the 2500 mark!
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:-\ Just got this page
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Commodore%20perry//Volumes/Seagate%20Backup%20Plus%20Drive/Arfon-JPEGS/RG26/COMMODORE%20PERRY//vol182/vol182_117_1.jpg
I just finished this page
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Commodore%20perry//Volumes/Seagate%20Backup%20Plus%20Drive/Arfon-JPEGS/RG26/COMMODORE%20PERRY//vol182/vol182_116_1.jpg
(which I must add I have two of)
Then back to
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Commodore%20perry//Volumes/Seagate%20Backup%20Plus%20Drive/Arfon-JPEGS/RG26/COMMODORE%20PERRY//vol182/vol182_118_1.jpg
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:-\ Ok this is the first time I have see this
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Commodore%20perry//Volumes/Seagate%20Backup%20Plus%20Drive/Arfon-JPEGS/RG26/COMMODORE%20PERRY//vol182/vol182_119_1.jpg
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I think everything is OK.
You have gotten
...vol182_116_1.jpg, ...vol182_117_1.jpg, ...vol182_118_1.jpg, ...vol182_119_1.jpg
so the pages are in the correct order.
When
I first looked at ...vol182_117_1.jpg I read it as April 2, but when I
looked more closely, it looked more like April 20 (with a very small 0)
which is what I would expect to see.
This is the April 2 page:
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Commodore%20perry//Volumes/Seagate%20Backup%20Plus%20Drive/Arfon-JPEGS/RG26/COMMODORE%20PERRY//vol182/vol182_099_1.jpg
PommyStuart
just recently had a page that said 7 Dec where it should have said 27
Dec. Since that is clearly a 7, the correct procedure is to transcribe
it as written.
You can transcribe the date as 20 if you believe that is a 0 - or - as 2 if it looks more like a flourish to you.
Does this help?
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I think everything is OK.
You have gotten
...vol182_116_1.jpg, ...vol182_117_1.jpg, ...vol182_118_1.jpg, ...vol182_119_1.jpg
so the pages are in the correct order.
When
I first looked at ...vol182_117_1.jpg I read it as April 2, but when I
looked more closely, it looked more like April 20 (with a very small 0)
which is what I would expect to see.
This is the April 2 page:
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Commodore%20perry//Volumes/Seagate%20Backup%20Plus%20Drive/Arfon-JPEGS/RG26/COMMODORE%20PERRY//vol182/vol182_099_1.jpg
PommyStuart
just recently had a page that said 7 Dec where it should have said 27
Dec. Since that is clearly a 7, the correct procedure is to transcribe
it as written.
You can transcribe the date as 20 if you believe that is a 0 - or - as 2 if it looks more like a flourish to you.
Does this help?
No no sense here which question are you are you answering?
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Could you please be more specific when asking questions, Elizabeth? I'm having a hard time figuring out what's wrong.
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:o Oh so sorry first questions was
:-\ Just got this page
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Commodore%20perry//Volumes/Seagate%20Backup%20Plus%20Drive/Arfon-JPEGS/RG26/COMMODORE%20PERRY//vol182/vol182_117_1.jpg
I just finished this page
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Commodore%20perry//Volumes/Seagate%20Backup%20Plus%20Drive/Arfon-JPEGS/RG26/COMMODORE%20PERRY//vol182/vol182_116_1.jpg
(which I must add I have two of)
Then back to
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Commodore%20perry//Volumes/Seagate%20Backup%20Plus%20Drive/Arfon-JPEGS/RG26/COMMODORE%20PERRY//vol182/vol182_118_1.jpg
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The second question was
:-\ Ok this is the first time I have see this
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Commodore%20perry//Volumes/Seagate%20Backup%20Plus%20Drive/Arfon-JPEGS/RG26/COMMODORE%20PERRY//vol182/vol182_119_1.jpg
Does that help? ???
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Not quite, sorry.
So, if I have understood this correctly....
:-\ Just got this page
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Commodore%20perry//Volumes/Seagate%20Backup%20Plus%20Drive/Arfon-JPEGS/RG26/COMMODORE%20PERRY//vol182/vol182_117_1.jpg
I just finished this page
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Commodore%20perry//Volumes/Seagate%20Backup%20Plus%20Drive/Arfon-JPEGS/RG26/COMMODORE%20PERRY//vol182/vol182_116_1.jpg
(which I must add I have two of)
Then back to
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Commodore%20perry//Volumes/Seagate%20Backup%20Plus%20Drive/Arfon-JPEGS/RG26/COMMODORE%20PERRY//vol182/vol182_118_1.jpg
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In
this case, you were asking about the date appearing to be wrong:
116_1.jpg is April 19th, 117_1-jpg looks a bit like April 2nd but really
is April 20th, 118_1.jpg is April 21st.
That's what Randi was referring to:
I think everything is OK.
You have gotten
...vol182_116_1.jpg, ...vol182_117_1.jpg, ...vol182_118_1.jpg, ...vol182_119_1.jpg
so the pages are in the correct order.
When
I first looked at ...vol182_117_1.jpg I read it as April 2, but when I
looked more closely, it looked more like April 20 (with a very small 0)
which is what I would expect to see.
This is the April 2 page:
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Commodore%20perry//Volumes/Seagate%20Backup%20Plus%20Drive/Arfon-JPEGS/RG26/COMMODORE%20PERRY//vol182/vol182_099_1.jpg
PommyStuart
just recently had a page that said 7 Dec where it should have said 27
Dec. Since that is clearly a 7, the correct procedure is to transcribe
it as written.
You can transcribe the date as 20 if you believe that is a 0 - or - as 2 if it looks more like a flourish to you.
Does this help?
:-\ Ok this is the first time I have see this
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Commodore%20perry//Volumes/Seagate%20Backup%20Plus%20Drive/Arfon-JPEGS/RG26/COMMODORE%20PERRY//vol182/vol182_119_1.jpg
Sorry, but I don't understand what's wrong with that page - I was asking you to say exactly what it is you are seeing for the first time.
Are
you asking about the bit that got crossed out in red? I'm not sure what
to do there - the crossed out part looks like something that counts as
routine anyway, and doesn't need to be transcribed, but I know very
little about doing Events pages.
And the other part that got crossed
out further down - the one in black - appears to be a correction of a
mistake: There was only one person on board for piloting services, but
the log keeper accidentally added a second person, realized his mistake,
and crossed out said second person's name. In this case, I would say
transcribe the first person's name (Captain Woods), but ignore the one
that got crossed out.
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Quote from: elizabeth on Today at 05:30:04 am
:-\ Ok this is the first time I have see this
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Commodore%20perry//Volumes/Seagate%20Backup%20Plus%20Drive/Arfon-JPEGS/RG26/COMMODORE%20PERRY//vol182/vol182_119_1.jpg
Sorry,
but I don't understand what's wrong with that page - I was asking you
to say exactly what it is you are seeing for the first time.
Are you
asking about the bit that got crossed out in red? I'm not sure what to
do there - the crossed out part looks like something that counts as
routine anyway, and doesn't need to be transcribed, but I know very
little about doing Events pages.
And the other part that got crossed
out further down - the one in black - appears to be a correction of a
mistake: There was only one person on board for piloting services, but
the log keeper accidentally added a second person, realized his mistake,
and crossed out said second person's name. In this case, I would say
transcribe the first person's name (Captain Woods), but ignore the one
that got crossed out.
So sorry yes the part that is
crossed out in Red ink. Was that done by the crew? or was that
crossed out by someone reviewing the log?? It just seemed odd to
me. I wondered if anyone else had seen this in other logs?
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I think everything is OK.
You have gotten
...vol182_116_1.jpg, ...vol182_117_1.jpg, ...vol182_118_1.jpg, ...vol182_119_1.jpg
so the pages are in the correct order.
When
I first looked at ...vol182_117_1.jpg I read it as April 2, but when I
looked more closely, it looked more like April 20 (with a very small 0)
which is what I would expect to see.
This is the April 2 page:
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Commodore%20perry//Volumes/Seagate%20Backup%20Plus%20Drive/Arfon-JPEGS/RG26/COMMODORE%20PERRY//vol182/vol182_099_1.jpg
PommyStuart
just recently had a page that said 7 Dec where it should have said 27
Dec. Since that is clearly a 7, the correct procedure is to transcribe
it as written.
You can transcribe the date as 20 if you believe that is a 0 - or - as 2 if it looks more like a flourish to you.
Does this help?
:-\ The page I posted was vol82_099_1.jpg(JPEG Image, 1...
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Commodore%20perry//Volumes/Seagate%20Backup%20Plus%20Drive/Arfon-JPEGS/RG26/COMMODORE%20PERRY//vol182/vol182_099_1.jpg
Which is not IMHO vol182_117_1.jpg(JPEG Image,1...
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Commodore%20perry//Volumes/Seagate%20Backup%20Plus%20Drive/Arfon-JPEGS/RG26/COMMODORE%20PERRY//vol182/vol182_099_1.jpg
Of
course now that I am going to post it they appear to be the same but I
see no 0 in the post. OK my vision is going but I still think that
something is not right!
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:-\ The page I posted was vol82_099_1.jpg(JPEG Image, 1...
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Commodore%20perry//Volumes/Seagate%20Backup%20Plus%20Drive/Arfon-JPEGS/RG26/COMMODORE%20PERRY//vol182/vol182_099_1.jpg
Which is not IMHO vol182_117_1.jpg(JPEG Image,1...
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Commodore%20perry//Volumes/Seagate%20Backup%20Plus%20Drive/Arfon-JPEGS/RG26/COMMODORE%20PERRY//vol182/vol182_099_1.jpg
Of
course now that I am going to post it they appear to be the same but I
see no 0 in the post. OK my vision is going but I still think that
something is not right!
OK, let me try this again:
vol82_099_1.jpg is April 2nd, 1906.
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Commodore%20perry//Volumes/Seagate%20Backup%20Plus%20Drive/Arfon-JPEGS/RG26/COMMODORE%20PERRY//vol182/vol182_099_1.jpg
vol82_117_1.jpg looks like April 2nd, but is actually April 20th, 1906 - there's a very small zero to the right of the 2, making it 20 instead of 2.
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Commodore%20perry//Volumes/Seagate%20Backup%20Plus%20Drive/Arfon-JPEGS/RG26/COMMODORE%20PERRY//vol182/vol182_117_1.jpg
So if you posted vol82_099_1.jpg as April 2nd, that's fine.
I also checked the order in "My Pages", and it was fine - I got all of these pages in the correct order back when I did them.
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:o not the same page at all. Read the log not the same
page. pulling what little hair I have left out here! It is not the
same page. :D
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I never said it was the same page. These are completely different pages, with completely different dates!
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I never said it was the same page. These are completely different pages, with completely different dates!
:) Thank you I think? :-\ So are they out of sinc?
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No, the order is fine. I checked in "My Pages".
The problem is just a badly written date on one of the pages. As I have already said:
vol82_099_1.jpg is April 2nd, 1906.
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Commodore%20perry//Volumes/Seagate%20Backup%20Plus%20Drive/Arfon-JPEGS/RG26/COMMODORE%20PERRY//vol182/vol182_099_1.jpg
vol82_117_1.jpg looks like April 2nd, but is actually April 20th, 1906 - there's a very small zero to the right of the 2, making it 20 instead of 2.
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Commodore%20perry//Volumes/Seagate%20Backup%20Plus%20Drive/Arfon-JPEGS/RG26/COMMODORE%20PERRY//vol182/vol182_117_1.jpg
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Are
you asking about the bit that got crossed out in red? I'm not sure what
to do there - the crossed out part looks like something that counts as
routine anyway, and doesn't need to be transcribed, but I know very
little about doing Events pages.
And the other part that got crossed
out further down - the one in black - appears to be a correction of a
mistake: There was only one person on board for piloting services, but
the log keeper accidentally added a second person, realized his mistake,
and crossed out said second person's name. In this case, I would say
transcribe the first person's name (Captain Woods), but ignore the one
that got crossed out.
Sorry, elizabeth, but I had to catch the bus.
I think Hanibal94 answered everything. The only thing I would add is that notations in red or blue ink or pencil are usually later additions or corrections. Philip only wants what was originally in the log.
From an earlier question:
Intriguing.
My
(limited) experience is that red ink tends to indicate additions to a
log made, sometimes decades later, by someone reading it - vandalism, in
other words (though the people making the mark-up would presumably not
have described it quite like that).
So, is this contemporary with
the log, or overwritten? If it's overwritten, please DON'T transcribe
it - we need the original log entries, not the graffiti that they've
accumulated over the years. If it's contemporary, it's transcribers
choice - do you think it's interesting or important?
...
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I'm guessing the red cross out is indeed a later amendment - the
cross out has a red ink note that sends the reader to another volume of
documents. So the crossed-out sentence should be transcribed -
ONLY if it interests you and the note skipped. I've never seen
later editors do their corrections in black, there seems to be some
dictating matching ink isn't allowed anywhere near the original
document.
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:) Thank you all for your answers. Will try to make my questions clearer.
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The other use for red ink is for logging emergency drills (or
emergency not drills) - at least on some of the ships I have served on.
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The
other use for red ink is for logging emergency drills (or emergency not
drills) - at least on some of the ships I have served on.
Thank you for your response. The red ink was use for several pages not
on the events page but crossing out the fuel input and output part which
I have no knowledge of. so I did not report it anywhere. :-\
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elizabeth passes the 3000 mark!
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Yeah Elizabeth!
I'll probably run out of Perry logs tomorrow (I am doing the duplicate 1910 months), then she's yours.
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Yeah Elizabeth!
I'll probably run out of Perry logs tomorrow (I am doing the duplicate 1910 months), then she's yours.
:o Oh here I was just thinking about jumping ship ::) guess will just have to stick around for awhile ;)
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Yeah Elizabeth!
I'll probably run out of Perry logs tomorrow (I am doing the duplicate 1910 months), then she's yours.
hmmm might one ask what is .....I am doing the duplicate 1910 months ???
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leelaht means that some of the logs overlap:
190: Jan - June 1910
191: Jan - 18 July 1910
192: 1st - 29th July 1910
Note that batch 191 overlaps with both 190 and 192!
As far as I can tell, 190 and 192 are easier to read.
But actually, it's not necessary to do the duplicates:
190 and 192 cover every date between them, if they have the better handwriting, you got lucky.
Yes, they do have the better handwriting - and the weather data is easier to read too.
As far as I can tell, the data is also absolutely identical - so it would be OK to skip through volume 191, correct?
"As far as I can tell, the data is also absolutely identical - so it would be OK to skip through volume 191, correct?"
Yes, that is my understanding.
I will mention it to Gina.
Let me know what happens when you get there.
So
when you get to log book 191 (Jan 1st - 18th July 1910), you can skip
through it - just keep clicking "I've finished with this page" without
entering any data until you get to book 192 (1st - 29th July 1910).
That's what I did.
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leelaht means that some of the logs overlap:
190: Jan - June 1910
191: Jan - 18 July 1910
192: 1st - 29th July 1910
Note that batch 191 overlaps with both 190 and 192!
As far as I can tell, 190 and 192 are easier to read.
But actually, it's not necessary to do the duplicates:
190 and 192 cover every date between them, if they have the better handwriting, you got lucky.
Yes, they do have the better handwriting - and the weather data is easier to read too.
As far as I can tell, the data is also absolutely identical - so it would be OK to skip through volume 191, correct?
"As far as I can tell, the data is also absolutely identical - so it would be OK to skip through volume 191, correct?"
Yes, that is my understanding.
I will mention it to Gina.
Let me know what happens when you get there.
So
when you get to log book 191 (Jan 1st - 18th July 1910), you can skip
through it - just keep clicking "I've finished with this page" without
entering any data until you get to book 192 (1st - 29th July 1910).
That's what I did.
Thanks I think it will take me forever to get there LOL :D
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:) ok can you give me imput on this
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Commodore%20perry//Volumes/Seagate%20Backup%20Plus%20Drive/Arfon-JPEGS/RG26/COMMODORE%20PERRY//vol182/vol182_175_0.jpg
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Commodore%20perry//Volumes/Seagate%20Backup%20Plus%20Drive/Arfon-JPEGS/RG26/COMMODORE%20PERRY//vol182/vol182_175_1.jpg
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Commodore%20perry//Volumes/Seagate%20Backup%20Plus%20Drive/Arfon-JPEGS/RG26/COMMODORE%20PERRY//vol182/vol182_174_1.jpg
how is one to transcribe what is not there?
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Only do the parts that actually are there - that's what the rules say, and that's how you're supposed to do it.
So, in this case:
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Commodore%20perry//Volumes/Seagate%20Backup%20Plus%20Drive/Arfon-JPEGS/RG26/COMMODORE%20PERRY//vol182/vol182_175_0.jpg
Just enter all 6 weather readings, don't enter anything else.
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Commodore%20perry//Volumes/Seagate%20Backup%20Plus%20Drive/Arfon-JPEGS/RG26/COMMODORE%20PERRY//vol182/vol182_175_1.jpg
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Commodore%20perry//Volumes/Seagate%20Backup%20Plus%20Drive/Arfon-JPEGS/RG26/COMMODORE%20PERRY//vol182/vol182_174_1.jpg
For each page, enter 1906 as the date (no month or day), and don't transcribe anything else.
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Only do the parts that actually are there - that's what the rules say, and that's how you're supposed to do it.
So, in this case:
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Commodore%20perry//Volumes/Seagate%20Backup%20Plus%20Drive/Arfon-JPEGS/RG26/COMMODORE%20PERRY//vol182/vol182_175_0.jpg
Just enter all 6 weather readings, don't enter anything else.
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Commodore%20perry//Volumes/Seagate%20Backup%20Plus%20Drive/Arfon-JPEGS/RG26/COMMODORE%20PERRY//vol182/vol182_175_1.jpg
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Commodore%20perry//Volumes/Seagate%20Backup%20Plus%20Drive/Arfon-JPEGS/RG26/COMMODORE%20PERRY//vol182/vol182_174_1.jpg
For each page, enter 1906 as the date (no month or day), and don't transcribe anything else.
;D oh I think I did it right. Thanks for the in put
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leelaht means that some of the logs overlap:
190: Jan - June 1910
191: Jan - 18 July 1910
192: 1st - 29th July 1910
Note that batch 191 overlaps with both 190 and 192!
As far as I can tell, 190 and 192 are easier to read.
But actually, it's not necessary to do the duplicates:
190 and 192 cover every date between them, if they have the better handwriting, you got lucky.
Yes, they do have the better handwriting - and the weather data is easier to read too.
As far as I can tell, the data is also absolutely identical - so it would be OK to skip through volume 191, correct?
"As far as I can tell, the data is also absolutely identical - so it would be OK to skip through volume 191, correct?"
Yes, that is my understanding.
I will mention it to Gina.
Let me know what happens when you get there.
So
when you get to log book 191 (Jan 1st - 18th July 1910), you can skip
through it - just keep clicking "I've finished with this page" without
entering any data until you get to book 192 (1st - 29th July 1910).
That's what I did.
I decided to do the duplicates in case there was a transcription error in their second transcript (or in mine).
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:)
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We
notify various gov't agencies (Alaska Volcano Observatory
(http://www.avo.alaska.edu/volcanoes/eruptsearch.php), US Geologic
Survey, and UK Climatologist at University of Reading studying effects
of volcanic activity on weather) of any volcanic activity recorded in
our ship logs. The AVO regularly updates their public records to
include our data. They didn't post that postcard yet because we
havn't been able to give them any lat/long for this island but they have
the postcard image in their active records looking for more precise
information. If anyone finds specific log records of this
discovered temporary island, please post it here so I can send it on to
them!!!
http://forum.oldweather.org/index.php?topic=384.msg87165#msg87165
They
did provide us with the original photo for the postcard.
http://vilda.alaska.edu/cdm/singleitem/collection/cdmg11/id/461/rec/6
Note:
this is typical of the updates AVO makes to their historic records:
http://www.avo.alaska.edu/volcanoes/activity.php?volcname=Shishaldin&page=basic&eruptionid=356
:o :o I think I have it.
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Commodore%20perry//Volumes/Seagate%20Backup%20Plus%20Drive/Arfon-JPEGS/RG26/COMMODORE%20PERRY//vol182/vol182_197_1.jpg
July 5 1906
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Commodore%20perry//Volumes/Seagate%20Backup%20Plus%20Drive/Arfon-JPEGS/RG26/COMMODORE%20PERRY//vol182/vol182_197_0.jpg
I am assuming DR on the Latitude and Longitude means dead reckoning ???
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I am assuming DR on the Latitude and Longitude means dead reckoning ???
Yes, it does.
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We
notify various gov't agencies (Alaska Volcano Observatory
(http://www.avo.alaska.edu/volcanoes/eruptsearch.php), US Geologic
Survey, and UK Climatologist at University of Reading studying effects
of volcanic activity on weather) of any volcanic activity recorded in
our ship logs. The AVO regularly updates their public records to
include our data. They didn't post that postcard yet because we
havn't been able to give them any lat/long for this island but they have
the postcard image in their active records looking for more precise
information. If anyone finds specific log records of this
discovered temporary island, please post it here so I can send it on to
them!!!
http://forum.oldweather.org/index.php?topic=384.msg87165#msg87165
They
did provide us with the original photo for the postcard.
http://vilda.alaska.edu/cdm/singleitem/collection/cdmg11/id/461/rec/6
Note:
this is typical of the updates AVO makes to their historic records:
http://www.avo.alaska.edu/volcanoes/activity.php?volcname=Shishaldin&page=basic&eruptionid=356
:o :o I think I have it.
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Commodore%20perry//Volumes/Seagate%20Backup%20Plus%20Drive/Arfon-JPEGS/RG26/COMMODORE%20PERRY//vol182/vol182_197_1.jpg
July 5 1906
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Commodore%20perry//Volumes/Seagate%20Backup%20Plus%20Drive/Arfon-JPEGS/RG26/COMMODORE%20PERRY//vol182/vol182_197_0.jpg
I am assuming DR on the Latitude and Longitude means dead reckoning ???
:)So they spotted smoke from new volcano at what appears to be 11.00am
At 12:45 sent out cutter with officers to explore the island and Photograph the same.
I am wondering if this is going to be enough info for the AVO ?
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You are right - that is Dead Reckoning. The email I just sent to the AVO, to greet them Monday morning:
(See also http://forum.oldweather.org/index.php?topic=384.msg98339#msg98339 )
A transcriber posted the date and location of our missing volcano in the postcard.
http://forum.oldweather.org/index.php?topic=384.msg98339#msg98339
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Commodore%20perry//Volumes/Seagate%20Backup%20Plus%20Drive/Arfon-JPEGS/RG26/COMMODORE%20PERRY//vol182/vol182_197_0.jpg
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Commodore%20perry//Volumes/Seagate%20Backup%20Plus%20Drive/Arfon-JPEGS/RG26/COMMODORE%20PERRY//vol182/vol182_197_1.jpg
Thursday, July 5 1906
Position at noon: Bogoslov Volcano WSW1/4W distance 7 miles
Position at 8pm: Latitude by D.R. 53 50 0 N
Longitude by D.R. 169 10 0 W
"Meridian to 4pm watch:
...12.30
ahead for Bogoslov Island and 12.45 stopped sent cutter with officers
to explore the Island and photograph same. 3.20 boat returned.
..."
We
notify various gov't agencies (Alaska Volcano Observatory
(http://www.avo.alaska.edu/volcanoes/eruptsearch.php), US Geologic
Survey, and UK Climatologist at University of Reading studying effects
of volcanic activity on weather) of any volcanic activity recorded in
our ship logs. The AVO regularly updates their public records to
include our data. They didn't post that postcard yet because we
havn't been able to give them any lat/long for this island but they have
the postcard image in their active records looking for more precise
information. If anyone finds specific log records of this
discovered temporary island, please post it here so I can send it on to
them!!!
http://forum.oldweather.org/index.php?topic=384.msg87165#msg87165
They
did provide us with the original photo for the postcard.
http://vilda.alaska.edu/cdm/singleitem/collection/cdmg11/id/461/rec/6
Note:
this is typical of the updates AVO makes to their historic records:
http://www.avo.alaska.edu/volcanoes/activity.php?volcname=Shishaldin&page=basic&eruptionid=356
:o :o I think I have it.
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Commodore%20perry//Volumes/Seagate%20Backup%20Plus%20Drive/Arfon-JPEGS/RG26/COMMODORE%20PERRY//vol182/vol182_197_1.jpg
July 5 1906
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Commodore%20perry//Volumes/Seagate%20Backup%20Plus%20Drive/Arfon-JPEGS/RG26/COMMODORE%20PERRY//vol182/vol182_197_0.jpg
I am assuming DR on the Latitude and Longitude means dead reckoning ???
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8) 8) Now back to the weather reports. :)
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:o Oh my things are getting intense......... I have just read
(and will reread the longest narrative I read so far on this ship)
Has to do with special agent, A Japanese sealing schooner.
Which is now missing! The captain has decided to confer with the
government agents station at St. Paul Island! Aug 10th 1906
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Commodore%20perry//Volumes/Seagate%20Backup%20Plus%20Drive/Arfon-JPEGS/RG26/COMMODORE%20PERRY//vol183/vol183_039_1.jpg
Oh and now I have to do more WR to find out the outcome. ::)
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:o Oh my things are getting intense......... I have just read (and will
reread the longest narrative I read so far on this ship) Has to
do with special agent, A Japanese sealing schooner. Which is
now missing! The captain has decided to confer with the
government agents station at St. Paul Island!
This is exactly what I am enjoying about my ship too. It like an adventure novel come to life!
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:o Oh my things are getting intense......... I have just read (and will
reread the longest narrative I read so far on this ship) Has to
do with special agent, A Japanese sealing schooner. Which is
now missing! The captain has decided to confer with the
government agents station at St. Paul Island!
This is exactly what I am enjoying about my ship too. It like an adventure novel come to life!
;D yes!
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:o Oh my things are getting intense......... I have just read (and will
reread the longest narrative I read so far on this ship) Has to
do with special agent, A Japanese sealing schooner. Which is
now missing! The captain has decided to confer with the
government agents station at St. Paul Island! Aug 10th 1906
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Commodore%20perry//Volumes/Seagate%20Backup%20Plus%20Drive/Arfon-JPEGS/RG26/COMMODORE%20PERRY//vol183/vol183_039_1.jpg
Oh and now I have to do more WR to find out the outcome. ::)
Up date: 5 Japanese prisoners to be taken to San Fransisco for trial.
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Commodore%20perry//Volumes/Seagate%20Backup%20Plus%20Drive/Arfon-JPEGS/RG26/COMMODORE%20PERRY//vol183/vol183_043_1.jpg
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elizabeth passes the 4000 mark!
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::) ::) ::) Please tell me I am not alone! On this ship
trying to finishing it out. Cause it will take me a long time
without help. LOL ;D
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Exim202, d0cent, and others are working on it.
Having multiple people in the third (final) stream is, in my opinion, a mixed blessing.
It does advance faster, but you will get gaps in the pages you transcribe because one of the other transcribers has done them.
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Exim202, d0cent, and others are working on it.
Having multiple people in the third (final) stream is, in my opinion, a mixed blessing.
It does advance faster, but you will get gaps in the pages you transcribe because one of the other transcribers has done them.
;D oh that is good to know. gaps yes I can understand that . thanks Liz
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:) I found this interesting and wonder if any of you
could dig up some information about the first use of telegraph's on
ships? The date is 12/06/1906
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Commodore%20perry//Volumes/Seagate%20Backup%20Plus%20Drive/Arfon-JPEGS/RG26/COMMODORE%20PERRY//vol183/vol183_159_1.jpg
Wireless operator installing apparatus
Thanks Liz
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It would still have been a bright and shiny new thing in 1906.
Googling got me a Wiki article:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wireless_telegraphy#Marconi
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;D ;D LOL I found this one http://www.telegraph-office.com/pages/arc2-2.html
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Form 2019 1/2. For a minute there I thought I was in another book. ::)
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Commodore%20perry//Volumes/Seagate%20Backup%20Plus%20Drive/Arfon-JPEGS/RG26/COMMODORE%20PERRY//vol183/vol183_185_0.jpg
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;D
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I've seen all sorts of things turn up in these log books - coal
receipts, phone bills from 1950, bookmarks, even a crossword puzzle from
the modern times (One of the scanners was not paying attention!)
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eikwar passes the 500 mark!
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Gallary of photos of Coast Guard and Revenue Cutters (http://www.pmel.noaa.gov/arctic/rediscover/gallery_view.php)
thanks to Kevin and Janet ;)
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:o
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Commodore%20perry//Volumes/Seagate%20Backup%20Plus%20Drive/Arfon-JPEGS/RG26/COMMODORE%20PERRY//vol184/vol184_092_1.jpg
H. Freerks, cox swain, and H. Little, coal heaver, took the ship's punt and left the vessel about 9:00 p.m.
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Commodore%20perry//Volumes/Seagate%20Backup%20Plus%20Drive/Arfon-JPEGS/RG26/COMMODORE%20PERRY//vol184/vol184_093_1.jpg
M-at-A.
Johansen reported, having seen, H. Freerks, cox swain, and H. Little,
coal heaver ashore, last night about 10:30; and that he took them to the
dock, where the punt was made fast and started them off toward the
vessel keeping them in sight until they were halfway from the shore to
the ship.
Nothing having been seen or heard of these man, at 2:30: sent party in dinghy along the water front.
...
4:30;
party returned, having found the punt in a slip ashore, half filled
with water, but no trace of the man. Communicated with police
authorities ashore and requested them to apprehend these men if
possible.
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Oh, my, more deserters. At least they got their boat back.
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We had a very similar event on the Patterson, though it took a day
or so to find the stolen launch (and it too was half full of water) -
presumably it's a regular sailor's pasttime ::) ;D
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exim202 passes the 1500 mark!
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larryw
Welcome back !
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Just came across an incident that might be interesting: Japanese sealing schooner and boats captured.
http://forum.oldweather.org/index.php?topic=4309.0
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And when they towed the schooner into Unalaska in rough weather, there was more excitement...
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Commodore%20perry//Volumes/Seagate%20Backup%20Plus%20Drive/Arfon-JPEGS/RG26/COMMODORE%20PERRY//vol184/vol184_171_1.jpg
stopped
engines, and, vessel refusing to answer her helm owing to towing
schooner, strong breeze and ebb tide, at 9 20 slid up onto the beach in
front of steam laundry, cast schooner adrift, the latter went into the
harbor before the wind and came to anchor. Ran a line to reef from
starboard quarter and backed full speed on engines three successive
times with no effect - wind astern force 5 to 6 - tide falling. At 10 15
ran a line ashore from foremast head and took strain on it, as a
preventer against vessel's listing on fall of tide.
Looks like it all got too much for one young crewmember - that night:
Gave Percy Bigelow, boy, two hours watch on bridge for impertinence.
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Wrong conditions for a boy to feel like a know-it-all I guess. :)
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Hi exim202,
Great to see you here!
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http://www.history.noaa.gov/stories_tales/ak3.html
mentions a "pinnacle rock" - and what can happen if you are not careful ;)
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larryw passes the 2000 mark!
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Thanks for the post - a fascinating holiday read, as well, if one wants some distraction... :)
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Hi Liz, nice Christmas avatar ;)
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Hi Liz, nice Christmas avatar ;)
;D yes thank you and Thanks to Caro who gave me a wonderful present this season. Thanks Caro you have lifted my mood. :-*
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exim202 passes the 2000 mark!
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elizabeth passes the 5000 mark!
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exim202 hits the 3000 mark!
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exim202 hits the 3000 mark!
Well that's impressive. :)
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Thanks Tastiger - it just happened to coincide with the need to exercise the ferrets and break for tea! :)
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exim202 hits the 3000 mark!
8) 8) 8) Awesome!
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Thanks Elizabeth. Love the seasonal avatar... ;D
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H. Andersen, coxswain, and C. Woodley, coal heaver, left the ship at
8:00 a.m. returning at 9:00 a.m. drunk. Woodley disorderly.
C.Madsen, coxswain, drunk, disorderly and unfit for duty. Confined
Madsen, coxswain, and Woodley, coal heaver, in single irons for safe
keeping
[12:00] released Woodley from single irons.
2:30 released Coxswain C. Madsen from irons, found that one link of the chain had been filed about half way through.
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::)
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Too bad such energy couldn't have been put to better use.
I wonder where he got the file.
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In a cake from Mom, of course! That's where it always is!
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I'm finding typewritten sheets over the pages (2 so far) should I
leave them or transcribe what I can see on the original page, and/or
leave a note in 'events'? ???
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Commodore%20perry//Volumes/Seagate%20Backup%20Plus%20Drive/Arfon-JPEGS/RG26/COMMODORE%20PERRY//vol185/vol185_185_1.jpg
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Commodore%20perry//Volumes/Seagate%20Backup%20Plus%20Drive/Arfon-JPEGS/RG26/COMMODORE%20PERRY//vol185/vol185_186_0.jpg
Update:
the next page is an unobscured version of one of the previous ones, so
I'm probably ok. Could you advise anyway please in case it happens again
- or to someone else ;)
Update #2: I am getting repeats of the same pages...
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Commodore%20perry//Volumes/Seagate%20Backup%20Plus%20Drive/Arfon-JPEGS/RG26/COMMODORE%20PERRY//vol185/vol185_186_1.jpg
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Commodore%20perry//Volumes/Seagate%20Backup%20Plus%20Drive/Arfon-JPEGS/RG26/COMMODORE%20PERRY//vol185/vol185_187_1.jpg
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Commodore%20perry//Volumes/Seagate%20Backup%20Plus%20Drive/Arfon-JPEGS/RG26/COMMODORE%20PERRY//vol185/vol185_188_1.jpg
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I have to fix dinner now, but this should help: Inserts in bound
logbooks (http://forum.oldweather.org/index.php?topic=3383.0)
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Thanks, will have a look!
That link has sorted most of the questions, thanks. When you get back from dinner -
The
inserts are of earlier pages I have already transcribed (I recognise
some unique incidents on each one), or are standard forms with no
typewritten transcription. Do I need to do anything?
List of the pages concerned, with my page nos and notes. It may be a bit unnecessary, but in case you want to check them:
3407, weather, transcribed normally.
3408, events page 28 Dec, with insert beginning 'Transcript-Jounal..'
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Commodore%20perry//Volumes/Seagate%20Backup%20Plus%20Drive/Arfon-JPEGS/RG26/COMMODORE%20PERRY//vol185/vol185_185_1.jpg
3409, weather page, as 3407?, insert inc 'furnished Christian Madsen' ie transcribed earlier.
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Commodore%20perry//Volumes/Seagate%20Backup%20Plus%20Drive/Arfon-JPEGS/RG26/COMMODORE%20PERRY//vol185/vol185_186_0.jpg
3410 events 28 Dec. Transcribed normally.
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3411 weather as 3407?, insert, CM to jail - already transcribed earlier.
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Commodore%20perry//Volumes/Seagate%20Backup%20Plus%20Drive/Arfon-JPEGS/RG26/COMMODORE%20PERRY//vol185/vol185_187_0.jpg
3412 events 28 ignored.
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Commodore%20perry//Volumes/Seagate%20Backup%20Plus%20Drive/Arfon-JPEGS/RG26/COMMODORE%20PERRY//vol185/vol185_187_1.jpg
3413 Weather as 3407, insert of page inc CO 7 days leave, already transcribed.
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Commodore%20perry//Volumes/Seagate%20Backup%20Plus%20Drive/Arfon-JPEGS/RG26/COMMODORE%20PERRY//vol185/vol185_188_0.jpg
3414 events 28, ignore
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Commodore%20perry//Volumes/Seagate%20Backup%20Plus%20Drive/Arfon-JPEGS/RG26/COMMODORE%20PERRY//vol185/vol185_188_1.jpg
3415 weather as 3407? insert, instructions for log transcripts
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Commodore%20perry//Volumes/Seagate%20Backup%20Plus%20Drive/Arfon-JPEGS/RG26/COMMODORE%20PERRY//vol185/vol185_189_0.jpg
3416 events 28, ignore
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Commodore%20perry//Volumes/Seagate%20Backup%20Plus%20Drive/Arfon-JPEGS/RG26/COMMODORE%20PERRY//vol185/vol185_189_1.jpg
3417 weather as 3407, ignore
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Commodore%20perry//Volumes/Seagate%20Backup%20Plus%20Drive/Arfon-JPEGS/RG26/COMMODORE%20PERRY//vol185/vol185_190_0.jpg
3418 events 28, ignore
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Commodore%20perry//Volumes/Seagate%20Backup%20Plus%20Drive/Arfon-JPEGS/RG26/COMMODORE%20PERRY//vol185/vol185_190_1.jpg
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Back from dinner - taking a look ;)
What a mess!
What you have done is correct ;D
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Thanks!!
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exim202 passes the 4000 mark!
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exim202 passes the 5000 mark!
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Being off sick has its advantages... ;) 8)
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;D
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Perry is in harbor in Juneau - it's January, force 6 squalls, temp
down to -2 oF (-18 oC) some days. :o But there is some light
relief, for all but the Pilot:
Commanding Officer placed Pilot Keen on watch 9 00 till 12 00 to permit all officers to attend a dance.
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Commodore%20perry//Volumes/Seagate%20Backup%20Plus%20Drive/Arfon-JPEGS/RG26/COMMODORE%20PERRY//vol188/vol188_019_1.jpg
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I sure hope he gets some compensation for that :(
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Lots of goodwill in the credit bank, I should think! ;D
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Quarantined Ben Anderson, fireman, one week for wearing non-regulation cap.
::) ;D
Maybe like this one...
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;D
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exim202 passes the 6000 mark!
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Officers now having a bathtub installed :)
End of 8am-4pm watch:
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Commodore%20perry//Volumes/Seagate%20Backup%20Plus%20Drive/Arfon-JPEGS/RG26/COMMODORE%20PERRY//vol188/vol188_134_1.jpg
I wonder what they did before? Or the ratings?? ???
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Common practice, at least in the RN as I don't remember it being
logged in the American, was to stop the ship and have everyone jump
overboard to bathe in the sea. :)
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I remember a comment in an RN logbook about the hands rigging a bath.
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It probably depends on the weather and how cold the water is. :)
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Or as in Hornblower (again) rig up the pump and hose on deck and strip off. Ok we don't know if this is just fiction...
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exim202 passes the 7000 mark!
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Rescue of shipwrecked crew off Californian coast...
a
vessel's fuel oil tanks of large capacity, floating amongst a quantity
of charred and burned timbers. The water in the vicinity was thickly
covered with oil, this evidently being where the "St Croix" sank.
sighted a smudge of smoke ashore, and a number of people signalling
found party on beach to be sixteen of "St Croix" crew
all
passengers and crew had been landed safely about 5:30 pm, Saturday, and
were making their way down beach by various conveyances to Santa
Monica.
(And a bit I particularly liked - the captain declined to be
rescued by the Perry, and continued along the beach by carriage to pick
up any stragglers. In true nautical tradition! :D)
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Commodore%20perry//Volumes/Seagate%20Backup%20Plus%20Drive/Arfon-JPEGS/RG26/COMMODORE%20PERRY//vol189/vol189_152_1.jpg
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Commodore%20perry//Volumes/Seagate%20Backup%20Plus%20Drive/Arfon-JPEGS/RG26/COMMODORE%20PERRY//vol189/vol189_153_1.jpg
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(http://www.desismileys.com/smileys/desismileys_3266.gif)
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Great story - thanks for posting it here where the weather-obsessed people who never read events (i.e. me) can read it!
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;D
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exim202 passes the 8000 mark!
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Great work, exim!
The Perry has been making great progress recently thanks to you - keep it up!
At this rate, she'll be done in less than a month!
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Hope so, Hanibal - between me and the elves ;D
I've definitely become an OW addict!
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Hope so, Hanibal - between me and the elves ;D
I've definitely become an OW addict!
Welcome to the club. :)
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Welcome indeed!
Here's the OW addicts club:
http://forum.oldweather.org/index.php?topic=1432.0
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Thanks Hanibal, I found it a few weeks ago!
http://forum.oldweather.org/index.php?topic=1432.msg100505#msg100505
(http://forum.oldweather.org/index.php?topic=1432.msg100505#msg100505)
Good to meet fellow addicts (and have a laugh at ourselves) ;D
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exim202 passes the 9000 mark!
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After several years of boarding Japanese sealers with 100s of seal
carcasses aboard, the Perry doing the rounds in 1910 is getting reports
from local officials of 'few seals on rookeries'. Very poignant.
:'(
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Yes.
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d0cent passes the 1500 mark!
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Perry is finished!
(http://i.imgur.com/B5aTato.gif)
I will ask the PTB to set her to VAL.
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WOW!!!!
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-6uqO1zVyyE4/VM51mO2N6NI/AAAAAAAABuE/YdhNv1EQAnk/w142-h133-no/All_20110222143255_Bottle%2Bwine%2Band%2Bglasses_320.gif)
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Hooray! ;D
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Good work everyone! 8) 8) 8)
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;D ;D
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Woohoo! Another one done!
Congratulations on doing such a great job, exim202 - you really speeded her up towards the end.
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Thanks Hanibal! It was great fun. :D
I'll be having a
bit of a break over the summer (it's not easy to see the screen sitting
outdoors ::) ;D ) but will drop in for the occasional bit of
transcribing and forum fun, and hope to pick up another ship in the
winter. You are a lovely bunch and I've enjoyed working and hanging out
with you all!
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Well done to all the crew!
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Well done! Gold stars all round.
(http://www.well-kids.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/gold-star1.jpg)(http://www.well-kids.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/gold-star1.jpg)(http://www.well-kids.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/gold-star1.jpg)
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8) 8) 8)