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Title: Natural Phenomena
Post by: thedanimal on 30 October 2010, 02:24:33
This note replaces the lost starting post by thedanimal.

This topic is where we share the beautiful or strange Natural Phenomena found in our logs.  Please share descriptions of anything that paints a word picture of the world our ships sailed in - rainbows, enormous frightening waves, phosphorescent water, meteors, you name it.

For volcanic activity, please post in Volcanos, Volcanic Eruptions, Ash etc. (http://forum.oldweather.org/index.php?topic=5165.0)

If you encounter descriptions of aurorae, sun spots or sudden deflections of the compass needle, please post them in Old Space Weather: sightings of aurorae and sunspots (http://forum.oldweather.org/index.php?topic=3670.msg3112#msg3112). Zooniverse project Solar Stormwatch regularly harvests and uses our data.
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: navalhistory on 30 October 2010, 05:05:16
I have a feeling a lot of unusual sightings like will be made. Apart from the weather and naval history events, exciting as this is, and only a guess, but it could well be this is the first time reliable and regular data is collected on a number of phenomena.

Rogue waves might be one of them. For those who follow the Patrick O'Brien novels of war at sea in Nelson's times, it's always been my hope a volcanic island rising from the waves is reported.

Gordon

Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: CHommel on 13 January 2011, 17:08:23
The HMS Merlin's log makes reference to a "solar halo" on May 20, 1920.

http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ADM_53-49107/ADM%2053-49107-012_0.jpg

Wasn't sure if others had seen this sort of thing, if it's of interest, and/or what topic it should be placed under.

Carolyn

(CHommel)
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Jens on 14 January 2011, 08:26:36


Wasn't sure if others had seen this sort of thing, if it's of interest, and/or what topic it should be placed under.

I would put it under Events/Other.
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Caro on 14 January 2011, 12:33:57
It is interesting Carolyn.  :D
I would agree with Jens: Events/Other.
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Randi on 07 July 2011, 07:51:40
Avoca - 9 Oct 1917 - 8:00pm position 16 12S, 74 37W

10:00pm to 10:30pm Water extremely phosphorescent.
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: szukacz on 11 July 2011, 03:43:46
Avoca  ;D
Obs glow of Villa Rica S57E.

Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: jdulak on 12 July 2011, 10:39:52
HMS Newcastle on patrol off the south coast of Ceylon May 6 1917 10AM:

http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ADM_53-52556/ADM%2053-52556-006_0.jpg


"Passing through discolored water. Stopped took sample, found to be fish's spawn."

John Dulak

Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: szukacz on 12 July 2011, 10:50:23
But it had to be the amount of spawn!
Extraordinary event!
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: jdulak on 12 July 2011, 18:03:11
HMS Newcastle 28 May 1917 Gulf of Aden 12 29 N 44 57 E:

6 PM weather report, weather code is "Dust Storm:
Under Remarks: Ran into dust storm. No wind.


http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ADM_53-52556/ADM%2053-52556-020_0.jpg

HMS Newcastle 1 June 1917 2:35 PM in the northern red sea 24 34 N 35 58 E:

"Passed through a tide rip"

http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ADM_53-52557/ADM%2053-52557-003_1.jpg


John Dulak
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: tkbuckley on 17 July 2011, 13:10:07
HMS Hawkins reported on 18/02/1922: "2055 A brilliant red coloured light observed to fall on starboard beam"
I thought this was an interesting log entry!
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 17 July 2011, 13:39:23
Welcome to the forum, tkbuckley!  We are glad to have you help us with these ships. :)

It definitely is interesting and rare - sounds like a very large meteor, which vaporized in time to do no damage.  Would you mind if I moved this to Natural Phenomena (http://forum.oldweather.org/index.php?topic=1779.msg21591#msg21591)?
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Helen J on 19 July 2011, 13:17:48
12th February 1915, Challenger, at Doula off Cameroon records a 'Tornado from NE' at 10am.  Wind 5-7, weather oR
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: montanaisaleg on 19 July 2011, 13:34:24
12th February 1915, Challenger, at Doula off Cameroon records a 'Tornado from NE' at 10am.  Wind 5-7, weather oR
You are about 5 days ahead of me on Challenger. :)
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Helen J on 19 July 2011, 13:36:24
And you're probably about to overtake me as I'm getting very stiff and need to go and move and eat!  Only another 2% to go - I hope one of us manages to reach the magic 100% and we don't need to appeal for someone else to come on board and do that.
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: montanaisaleg on 19 July 2011, 13:38:28
Pfft..  "Move and eat."  Where are your priorities?! :)
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Helen J on 19 July 2011, 14:51:18
I know, I know.  But I'm trying to stay in it for the long game, rather than keeling over from starvation or seizing up entirely - a feeble excuse I know, but there it is!   :D
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Randi on 20 July 2011, 15:30:58
Avoca - 5 Nov 1917 - Noon position 36 35S, 73 03W

6:40am  Entered Fog bank.
10 to 11am  Fog.
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Randi on 29 July 2011, 03:11:27
Avoca - 28 Dec 1917 - 8:00am position 8 15S, 79 30W

0:50am Fog bank encountered
2:00am Fog bank cleared

4:55am Obs total eclipse of moon (27.21 56) G.M.T.

3:20pm  Ran into Fog bank.  Manned sounding machines + doubled lookouts.
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: jdulak on 29 July 2011, 16:36:15
HMS Newcastle, 19 December 1918, 32 23 S, 51 19 W (off the south coast of Brasil):

10:12"Passed through discoloured water."

http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ADM_53-52575/ADM%2053-52575-012_1.jpg

John Dulak
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 29 July 2011, 19:15:39
Quote
10:12"Passed through discoloured water."

I can only think that was a very serious algae bloom.
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: bpb42 on 02 August 2011, 15:28:32
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ADM%2053-67714/ADM%2053-67714-005_0.jpg

HMS Virginian, 4th April 1916, off the coast of Iceland;- a force 7 gale, followed by a snowstorm,
then air temp' readings of 19F, or minus 7C, to end the day with.
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 02 August 2011, 19:09:09
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ADM%2053-67714/ADM%2053-67714-005_0.jpg

HMS Virginian, 4th April 1916, off the coast of Iceland;- a force 7 gale, followed by a snowstorm,
then air temp' readings of 19F, or minus 7C, to end the day with.

That's called a full-fledged blizzard.  They are bad enough to endure on land, I don't want to think of what that's like on a pitching and rolling ship! :o
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: bpb42 on 03 August 2011, 15:20:52
Hi Janet,
              I did wonder if it was more like an ice storm then anything else ?
Whatever it's called, it's impressive the crew managed to take hourly readings.
Regards,
               Bernie
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 03 August 2011, 21:00:25
It said "s" meaning snow, and wind was at a full gale; that's the formal definition of a blizzard.  They come in many variations, including (not at sea!) ground blizzards with blowing, not falling, snow.  Having ice mixed in would only make it worse.

They are all miserable storms.
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: cyzaki on 04 August 2011, 04:09:00
They are all miserable storms.

I think anything more than a force 5 wind would be miserable at sea. Coming back from France we had force 3 wind, and the ferry was still rocking a fair amount.
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Tegwen on 04 August 2011, 06:08:35
The other serious concern in this type of weather is icing.

http://www.weather.nps.navy.mil/~psguest/polarmet/vessel/description.html

This is a comprehensive summary of the conditions needed for icing, and the weather in Virginians log seem perfect.

K
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Bunting Tosser on 04 August 2011, 06:38:16
"One hand for yourself and one for the ship."

Bit difficult to comply when you're wielding a dirty great wooden mallet. 
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Tegwen on 04 August 2011, 14:41:48
I am really not sure about this one, maybe I should whimp out and put it into handwriting help, or put it straight into the mondegreens but I am going for it.

http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ADM53-38067/C2-ADM53-38067-0167_1.jpg

Does the 0.5 entry really say "Observed Lemon rainbow to northward."??

I know it is midnight: I know there is no rain about I know there arent lemon rainbows, but I cannot make it say anything else. 

A truely remarkable natural phenomenon if that is what it says.
 
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Helen J on 04 August 2011, 14:52:59
It looks like 'Limon' to me rather than 'Lemon' but this is no help at all.  A lemon rainbow is such a beautiful concept that I really want it to be that ....  We need Bunts and his forensic eye for handwriting on this one I think.
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: ElisabethB on 04 August 2011, 14:53:59
I am really not sure about this one, maybe I should whimp out and put it into handwriting help, or put it straight into the mondegreens but I am going for it.

http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ADM53-38067/C2-ADM53-38067-0167_1.jpg

Does the 0.5 entry really say "Observed Lemon rainbow to northward."??

I know it is midnight: I know there is no rain about I know there arent lemon rainbows, but I cannot make it say anything else. 

A truely remarkable natural phenomenon if that is what it says.

could this be a Moonbow (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moonbow) ?
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Tegwen on 04 August 2011, 15:00:08
The word I have as lemon could be lunar. That would make so much more sense.

Thanks very much Els. Certainly a partial mondegreen, but also posted in the correct place.
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Bunting Tosser on 04 August 2011, 19:34:47
It looks like 'Limon' to me rather than 'Lemon' but this is no help at all.  A lemon rainbow is such a beautiful concept that I really want it to be that ....  We need Bunts and his forensic eye for handwriting on this one I think.


Eh? What? Pardon?
Sorry, I was getting the peanuts and popcorn ready for when Torchwood came on.
Salutary lesson for all of us (especially me): no one is indispensible.
Nice work, Els.
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: szukacz on 07 August 2011, 06:44:42
8.31 Sea disturbance obs. ahead.

http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ADM53-34564/ADM53-34564-007_0.jpg (http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ADM53-34564/ADM53-34564-007_0.jpg)
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Randi on 07 August 2011, 18:42:10
Avoca - 17 Feb 1918

10:30 Visibility obscured by rain commenced fog whistle. 11:0 Ceased Fog signal.
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Tegwen on 09 August 2011, 15:01:40
The other serious concern in this type of weather is icing.

http://www.weather.nps.navy.mil/~psguest/polarmet/vessel/description.html

This is a comprehensive summary of the conditions needed for icing, and the weather in Virginians log seem perfect.

K

While looking for something else entirely I found these pictures of icing on HMS Quail

http://www.worldnavalships.com/images/hmsquail4.jpg
http://www.worldnavalships.com/images/hmsquail5.jpg

Maybe not frightening at this stage, but unless this is removed, or it warms up, the ice just continues to grow until the ship is top heavy.
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 09 August 2011, 18:29:44
Downright scary, that! :o
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: dorbel on 14 August 2011, 04:34:15
http://all-that-is-interesting.com/post/8779470889/seven-bizarre-and-beautiful-natural-phenomena

Lot's of nice photo's of amazing natural phenomena including coloured seas.
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Tegwen on 14 August 2011, 08:46:38
And some lemon (lunar) rainbows!!! Great pictures, thank you.
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: szukacz on 14 August 2011, 08:48:13
beautiful, fantastic and unbelievable.
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Helen J on 16 August 2011, 13:34:50
Those are great photos, thanks for sharing them.  I was really interested to see the 'lemon rainbow' - hadn't been able to work out what that might look like.
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Lancsgreybeard on 18 August 2011, 03:10:41
23rd February, 1919
"Newcastle" is in Rio de Janeiro and records laconically
Fore bridge struck by lightning. No apparent damage.
lgb
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Randi on 21 August 2011, 03:57:42
Birmingham - 6 Jan 1921 - Lagos (Nigeria) to Lobito (Angola)

o r(triply underlined) q

0930. heavy rain squally with thunder + lightening accompanied by 3 well defined waterspouts.
1020. Secured
1045. Heavy rain squall.
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: tastiger on 25 August 2011, 19:59:53
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ADM%2053-57311/ADM%2053-57311-058_1.jpg

Continuous lightning to the NE.
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: CHommel on 26 August 2011, 15:33:19
The log page lists names of the lookouts.  Out of curiosity, I must ask: do you transcribe all of them, even though they do not have intials or first names or ranks included?
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: tastiger on 26 August 2011, 18:57:23
The log page lists names of the lookouts.  Out of curiosity, I must ask: do you transcribe all of them, even though they do not have intials or first names or ranks included?

Yes (in most cases). It's only at sea when she has this many names; at port, there's only 6 names (4-hour shifts) so I only write down one every time there's a shift change.
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 26 August 2011, 21:20:33
That truly is transcriber's choice.

I can see both sides, why some would care and do it, and others wouldn't.  I don't know about myself there.  8)
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: tastiger on 26 August 2011, 21:39:05
Yeah, Janet's right. I just do it to be safe. Since there's at least one person doing these (me), you don't need to write them. ;)
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Tegwen on 29 August 2011, 06:11:59
Log of HMS Lancaster, September 1916, just leaving Esquimalt.

http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ADM_53-46013/ADM%2053-46013-005_1.jpg

She runs into two consecutive fog banks so thick that she has to anchor until they clear.
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: jdulak on 06 September 2011, 09:33:12
HMS Ophir August 1918 goes through a Typhoon while in dry dock at Kowloon (Hong Kong):

http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ADM_53-53387/ADM%2053-53387-010_1.jpg

John
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: tastiger on 06 September 2011, 11:21:28
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ADM%2053-58293/ADM%2053-58293-171_1.jpg

A Typhoon hits Hong Kong.
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: jdulak on 08 September 2011, 18:05:42
HMS Ophir, December 3, 1918
lat:28 20 S lng:71 32 E

http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ADM_53-53391/ADM%2053-53391-004_1.jpg

Annular solar eclipse

John
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 08 September 2011, 21:06:46
Cool!!!  They actually recorded start and finish to the minute - it gave me a picture of a whole lot of sailors finding excuses to be outside looking at the sky for the full 3 hours. :)
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: bpb42 on 12 September 2011, 19:10:18
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ADM%2053-56119/ADM%2053-56119-012_1.jpg

HMS Pyramus, 19th December 1917, in the Red Sea, records winds of force 8 - 9 up to Midnight.

I didn't get the page for the 20th so that may, or may not, have been the peak value.

Regards,
               Bernie
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: tastiger on 12 September 2011, 19:14:16
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ADM%2053-56119/ADM%2053-56119-012_1.jpg

HMS Pyramus, 19th December 1917, in the Red Sea, records winds of force 8 - 9 up to Midnight.

I didn't get the page for the 20th so that may, or may not, have been the peak value.

Regards,
               Bernie

Here you go!
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ADM%2053-56119/ADM%2053-56119-013_0.jpg
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: h.kohler on 14 September 2011, 15:42:15
What a day: right through the eye of a Typhoon. See entries 2000 - 2100 - 2200.

http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ADM%2053-70443/ADM%2053-70443-157_0.jpg

Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: MoragX on 19 September 2011, 11:43:55
HMS Orama, 13th April 1916, 11pm "Very heavy rain squalls"
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ADM_53-53466/ADM%2053-53466-009_1.jpg

Not the most exciting of natural phenomena, but as its the only one I've seen specially noted so far I thought I'd better post it here.
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Bunting Tosser on 19 September 2011, 12:22:04
MoragX,
Welcome to the forum.
I am in awe of your posting the correct url, first time up. It took two moderators numerous postings before I got it right.
You've obviously done your homework.  8)

Regards
Bunts
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Caro on 19 September 2011, 13:26:01
Welcome to the forum Morag.  :D
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: tastiger on 22 September 2011, 11:02:39
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ADM%2053-58294/ADM%2053-58294-175_1.jpg
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ADM%2053-58294/ADM%2053-58294-176_0.jpg

A typhoon hits Hong Kong.
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: MoragX on 23 September 2011, 18:55:45
Partial eclipse of the moon observed, 1.00 am on board the HMS Orama, 15th July, 1916.
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ADM_53-53469/ADM%2053-53469-009_1.jpg
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: szukacz on 26 September 2011, 16:47:38
I only came across the writings of a volcanic eruption.
And here are a few eclipse and colored water, typhoons, hurricanes. Super to read:)
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: bpb42 on 05 October 2011, 18:19:30
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ADM%2053-72752/ADM%2053-72752-029_0.jpg

HMS Caroline, on route to Colombo from the Seychelles, 2nd August 1920,

'10.18 am. a/c to starb to avoid Water spout.'
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Thursday Next on 07 October 2011, 11:25:50
HMS Carnarvon, 15 May 1915, Halifax to Quebec

http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ADM53-37095/ADM-53-37095-077_1.jpg

The ship has been avoiding drift ice for a day or two, but at 6.45am they are actually forcing their way through the ice - and it is May, only 5 weeks or so from the summer solstice.  I wonder how iced up that area is these days?
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Bunting Tosser on 07 October 2011, 11:30:35
A friend who lives near Halifax NS says that the Canadian Seasons are:
Winter, Still Winter, Mend the roads, Winter.
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: h.kohler on 07 October 2011, 16:49:29
HMS Carnarvon, 15 May 1915, Halifax to Quebec

http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ADM53-37095/ADM-53-37095-077_1.jpg

The ship has been avoiding drift ice for a day or two, but at 6.45am they are actually forcing their way through the ice - and it is May, only 5 weeks or so from the summer solstice.  I wonder how iced up that area is these days?

I found this Canadian site which explains the actual northern ice fields:

http://www.ec.gc.ca/glaces-ice/default.asp?lang=En&n=BBD52602-1
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Helen J on 08 October 2011, 08:46:08
Quote from: helenj on October 06, 2011, 08:31:09 PM

More on ice:

    HMS Patuca, 25th June 1916, in trouble with pack ice - so much for summer!

    They begin at 2.43 'Stopped engines, unable to pass through the ice'.  They dodge about, trying to get through, but by the evening are still struggling '10.5 Unable to clear'; then the weather gets even worse '11.00 Set in wet and misty', and 11.55 'Pack ice close ahead'.

    I was going to stop with this page for today, but I need to go on and find out how they get out!

    http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ADM_53-54675/ADM%2053-54675-019_0.jpg


Update - for the next several days they keep encountering ice, but seem not to get caught up in it.  There are entries such as 'avoiding pack ice' and 'sighted ice field northward'.  And they're keeping a very close eye on the water temperature, recording it hourly a lot of the time.  From the positions it looks as though they move towards the ice during the day, but retreat a bit south at night, which was presumably safer.  I'm transcribing anything I find about it, as I think it might well be of interest to the PTB, especially a record of the precise position where they came to the edge of the ice.  This was on 27th June, and the position was 66 21 N, 20 36 W, if anyone wants to look it up.  I've no idea how that compares to the ice today.
It's fascinating stuff.

Another very icy day - 1st July 1916, Patuca, on Atlantic patrol
2.45am Sighted ice
3.15 Stopped & endeavoured to manoeuvre ship out of ice field.  3.45 Stopped unable to move propellers.  Ship manoeuvred to clear ice.
6.19 all clear of ice
2.15 pm Sighted ice berg 66 5 N 25 ~5W
4.30 Ice floe to East
11.30 Ice ?log from NW to NE  I'm not sure of 'log' - if anyone can offer a better reading I'll be glad to hear it.

http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ADM_53-54675/ADM%2053-54675-022_0.jpg
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: bpb42 on 08 October 2011, 12:22:33
'Ice berg from NW to NE' ??
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Bunting Tosser on 08 October 2011, 12:58:10
Quote from: helenj on October 06, 2011, 08:31:09 PM

2.15 pm Sighted ice berg 66 5 N 25 ~5W
4.30 Ice floe to East
11.30 Ice ?log from NW to NE  I'm not sure of 'log' - if anyone can offer a better reading I'll be glad to hear it.

http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ADM_53-54675/ADM%2053-54675-022_0.jpg

I think the bearing is N25 45W
I'm not so sure about the mystery word.
You know the fallacy about the Inuit words for snow? It seems as nothing compared to the terms for ice (http://www.nrlmry.navy.mil/forecaster_handbooks/Arctic/Forecasters%20Handbook%20for%20the%20Arctic%20Appendix%20A.pdf)
Can't find "log" amongst them, but I fancy it's not an "o". Lt. Thickpen has not done a great deal of writing on that page but his "o" seems generally to be connected to surrounding letters at the top. The first letter seems to feed into the second from the bottom as with an "e", or it could be a splodged "b" as a contraction "bg" for berg. Stretching from NW to NE it would be a big one, depending on how far away it was.
I did a sketch (on the back of heffkit's discarded Camel packet) of courses and distances run and at 11.30pm HMS Patuca was not far from her 3.45am position where the ice obliged her to stop.
Not much help but it's all I have.
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: jennfurr on 08 October 2011, 13:38:01
I vote for the splodged b and read that as "ice berg"
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Helen J on 08 October 2011, 14:25:07
I vote for the splodged b and read that as "ice berg"

I wondered about 'berg' but it seemed a mighty big one; however I'm encouraged by the collective mind and will go back and change it to 'berg' - and also put in Bunt's bearing addition, as I know his reading of the splodgy and illegible is legendary.

The next few days on Patuca, in the same sort of area, are entirely ice free (or perhaps they just got bored writing about it?)
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Kathy on 08 October 2011, 14:52:21
well, I got curious as to how big ice bergs can get, and apparently, they can be quite large - one of the largest was bigger than the island of Jamaica and the one that sank Titanic was also very big - these things can get miles long 

Kathy
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Helen J on 08 October 2011, 15:37:03
Thanks Kathy, that's really helpful.  And I spoke too soon about Patuca being out of the ice - it's now July 5th and they're back manoeuvring the ship through ice fields and pack ice.
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Bunting Tosser on 08 October 2011, 15:57:19
well, I got curious as to how big ice bergs can get, and apparently, they can be quite large - one of the largest was bigger than the island of Jamaica and the one that sank Titanic was also very big - these things can get miles long 

Kathy

Nice work, Kathy.
I should have thought of that.
Jamaica is 146 miles long. So, according to Pythagoras and heffkit's fag packet, at a distance of 96 miles (approx.) it would occupy the horizon between NW and NE. (If you could see that far, which I doubt unless there were pretty high points at each end. My guess is that the iceberg is shorter and HMS Patuca is closer.)
Q.E.D.
 ;D

Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Bunting Tosser on 08 October 2011, 15:58:14
Thanks Kathy, that's really helpful.  And I spoke too soon about Patuca being out of the ice - it's now July 5th and they're back manoeuvring the ship through ice fields and pack ice.


That's not surprising, you're heading out of "mend the roads" into winter.
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Kathy on 08 October 2011, 16:37:01
I worked in Yellowstone Park one summer and we had a fairly substantial snow storm in early June.  Also, while on vacation there, my family got snowed out of the Park in August.  All this is to say that Bunts is right - after a certain latitude (or height above sea level, which is of course not relevant here  ;D ),  the season is just cold.  ;D

Kathy
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Helen J on 09 October 2011, 08:51:49
When I lived in Scotland (Edinburgh) we once had snow on my birthday (1st June) - not much I admit, but it did lie for a bit.  So you don't have to be that far north to get unseasonal snow!
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Kathy on 09 October 2011, 10:10:09
 ;D ;D

I'm sorry, but that is far north! I checked latitudes, and where I live is just about on a line with Lisbon - and Edinburgh is on a line with some place in Newfoundland - it would feel like winter all the time to me  ;D ;D

Kathy W.

(where I grew up is on a line with the middle of Africa... ;D )
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Thursday Next on 09 October 2011, 11:04:46
Hi Kathy, you need to factor in the Gulf Stream.  It keeps us much warmer in the UK than we have any right to be at this latitude.  ;D

If it were to cease or significantly divert I understand our climate would become like that of Newfoundland!  (I worry quite a lot about the Gulf Stream ...)
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Helen J on 09 October 2011, 12:43:25
;D ;D

I'm sorry, but that is far north! I checked latitudes, and where I live is just about on a line with Lisbon - and Edinburgh is on a line with some place in Newfoundland - it would feel like winter all the time to me  ;D ;D

Kathy W.

(where I grew up is on a line with the middle of Africa... ;D )

I have to confess that Edinburgh does tend to the bracing  :D  But it does have seasons, not just winter.  Sometimes in summer it gets as hot as 70F!
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Kathy on 09 October 2011, 19:40:32
duh!  How could I forget that!!

 :o

it does keep you toasty  ;D
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: jennfurr on 09 October 2011, 22:18:23
I have to confess that Edinburgh does tend to the bracing  :D  But it does have seasons, not just winter.  Sometimes in summer it gets as hot as 70F!

that's why my husband wants to move there!
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Kathy on 09 October 2011, 22:45:48
whew - 70 degrees - what a heat wave  ;D

wear sunscreen and drink lots of water  :P

Kathy W.
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Helen J on 10 October 2011, 06:52:34
I have to confess that Edinburgh does tend to the bracing  :D  But it does have seasons, not just winter.  Sometimes in summer it gets as hot as 70F!

that's why my husband wants to move there!

Obviously a man of taste and discernment ...
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Kathy on 10 October 2011, 08:11:24
It is a dream of mine to visit Scotland - I was in London once, but ill, so didn't get to see much of the city - I did go to Stonehenge tho - wow!  what a place  :o

Kathy W.

I have been to Europe 3 times, and only once to a country where I speak the language -  ;D - Great Britain, next time!  ;D
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Bunting Tosser on 10 October 2011, 08:38:20
I have been to Europe 3 times, and only once to a country where I speak the language -  ;D - Great Britain, next time!  ;D


If your preference is for English speakers, be wary of Glasgow and Newcastle upon Tyne.
 ;D
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Kathy on 10 October 2011, 08:39:46
 ;D ;D
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: jennfurr on 10 October 2011, 10:02:43
I have to confess that Edinburgh does tend to the bracing  :D  But it does have seasons, not just winter.  Sometimes in summer it gets as hot as 70F!

that's why my husband wants to move there!

Obviously a man of taste and discernment ...
But of course!
 He's been there before - lived there for a bit.  I've never been outside the US except for Mexico.
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Tegwen on 10 October 2011, 11:23:41
I have been to both Mexico and Edinburgh and Mexico was hotter!!

I would go further and say that the coldest we encountered in Mexico was hotter than the hottest I have encountered in Edinburgh, but dont let that put you off.

Edinburgh is a beautiful city and culturally very interesting.
K
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Helen J on 10 October 2011, 12:47:50
And they speak excellent English in Edinburgh too ...
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: heffkit on 12 October 2011, 17:56:08
From HMS Perth, 27 June 1918 (http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ADM%2053-55095/ADM%2053-55095-016_1.jpg):

'sand storm'



not too many of those at sea  ;)

- and there are two on this page - a bit like buses, I suppose  ;D
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: DJ_59 on 12 October 2011, 21:33:49

Very interesting.  Which port?
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: heffkit on 13 October 2011, 03:26:52
On Perim patrol in the Gulf of Aden.

(NB original log page link from date in my first post)
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: jennfurr on 18 October 2011, 00:43:49
Finally - the Leviathan encounters WEATHER!

http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ADM_53-46574/ADM%2053-46574-063_0.jpg

Wind WbN, 7-10, bcQr !!

The wind has been between 4 and 10 for a couple days, with b, c, p, QR, and some tl thrown in for good measure.

I'm not finding any record of a bad storm then, just a typhoon in Australia later in the month.
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Caro on 21 October 2011, 03:59:16
HMS Caroline, April 4, 1921, Colombo to Bombay

'Experienced extraordinary electric storm. Continuous lightning. Wind 7-8 with heavy rain.'

http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ADM%2053-72752/ADM%2053-72752-151_1.jpg
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Randi on 23 October 2011, 10:35:00
HMS Bristol - 28 March 1919

Noon   NNW   2-3   bc
4:00pm   W   8-9   oqrlt    Struck by heavy squall of wind + rain
6:00pm   NW   1-2   oclt
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: bpb42 on 31 October 2011, 14:04:04
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ADM%2053-67732/ADM%2053-67732-015_1.jpg

HMS Virginian, docked in Liverpool, 25th October 1917, at 4AM, a reading of wind force 11.
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Helen J on 31 October 2011, 17:15:18
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ADM%2053-67732/ADM%2053-67732-015_1.jpg

HMS Virginian, docked in Liverpool, 25th October 1917, at 4AM, a reading of wind force 11.

Bet they were glad to be docked ....
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: bpb42 on 31 October 2011, 18:04:23
The Virginian was actually in a dry-dock at the time, but after being torpedoed I would guess
the crew were more then happy to be there.
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: DJ_59 on 31 October 2011, 21:44:58

You would think.  You'd feel like a cat with more lives to go.

Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: bpb42 on 02 November 2011, 09:51:06
A couple of Force 10 readings here,

http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ADM%2053-67733/ADM%2053-67733-015_1.jpg
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Kathy on 09 November 2011, 11:12:43
From the Mantua, Sept. 15, 1917, from Sierra Leone to Plymouth -

Heavy rains and lightning displays during watch 12- to 4 am

http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ADM_53-48298/ADM%2053-48298-010_1.jpg
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Lancsgreybeard on 12 November 2011, 01:26:48
6th October, 1923 Constance is in dock at Bermuda, log records

Small whirlwind passed over ship. No damage done. Force of wind 10 for about 2 minutes

http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ADM%2053-74052/ADM%2053-74052-147_0.jpg

lgb
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Randi on 12 November 2011, 18:10:42
HMS Bristol - 11 Aug 1914

3.15 Heavy rain squall

http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ADM53-69477/ADM53-69477-033_1.jpg
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: bpb42 on 13 November 2011, 06:27:22
HMS Virginian, 22nd Jan' 1922, NW  Atlantic, (49 4N 46 55W @ 8pm), a force 11 storm.

http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ADM%2053-67735/ADM%2053-67735-014_0.jpg

...and the return journey,

http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ADM%2053-67736/ADM%2053-67736-010_1.jpg
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ADM%2053-67736/ADM%2053-67736-012_0.jpg
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: tastiger on 16 November 2011, 19:08:07
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ADM%2053-68181/ADM%2053-68181-006_0.jpg

Strong Nly gale.

HMS Warrior, December 6, 1918.
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Geoff on 19 November 2011, 02:52:28
From HMS Odin, 2 January 1920:

"No clouds on hills at daybreak"

About 11:30am:
"Cumulus clouds from Jebel Dalan to J. Arerat on Wensargali[?] ridge touching top - about 6500 feet."

http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ADM_53-53229/ADM%2053-53229-068_1.jpg (http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ADM_53-53229/ADM%2053-53229-068_1.jpg)
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Tegwen on 19 November 2011, 17:22:05
From HMS Odin, 2 January 1920:

"No clouds on hills at daybreak"

About 11:30am:
"Cumulus clouds from Jebel Dalan to J. Arerat on Wensargali[?] ridge touching top - about 6500 feet."

http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ADM_53-53229/ADM%2053-53229-068_1.jpg (http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ADM_53-53229/ADM%2053-53229-068_1.jpg)

Hi Geoff
Good to see you are still progressing with Odin.
That Mountain range is I think Warsangeli, in N Somalia.
http://www.chinci.com/travel/pax/q/50511/Jebel+Warsangeli/SO/Somalia/0/#
Hope this helps.

K
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 19 November 2011, 19:32:04
What a lovely site, and a nice picture of what our crew actually saw.

(http://mw2.google.com/mw-panoramio/photos/medium/9833888.jpg)
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: CHommel on 23 November 2011, 21:53:51
Clio's log, 18 July 1918: http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ADM53-38080/ADM%2053-38080-012_0.jpg

Morning: 5.15 Star Obs Lat 26o 25' 30"N Long 41o  8' 15"E

Evening: 7.3 Star obs Lat 17o 58'20"N Long 39o 57' 26E, Clocks put back 5 min

Are these really  entries about a bright star? Or something else?
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Bunting Tosser on 23 November 2011, 23:10:45
It's probably Venus.
Often called Morning/Evening Star. Sometimes appears very bright.
I think I was told ... decades ago.
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 24 November 2011, 05:25:57
They cannot both be Venus - it appears either morning or evening depending on which side of the sun the planet is on.  Mercury also, for a much shorter time.  Both planets rise immediately before or set immediately after the sun.  It would be an nice but unusual treat to see both in the same night.

(Off-topic: Googling found me photos of Mercury from a spacecraft that is orbiting it this year. http://www.wired.com/wiredscience/tag/messenger/ )
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Bunting Tosser on 24 November 2011, 08:44:48
They cannot both be Venus
I suppose someone who knows about these things could determine which is which; but I can't.

Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: heffkit on 24 November 2011, 17:23:49
Clio's log, 18 July 1918: http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ADM53-38080/ADM%2053-38080-012_0.jpg

Morning: 5.15 Star Obs Lat 26o 25' 30"N Long 41o  8' 15"E

Evening: 7.3 Star obs Lat 17o 58'20"N Long 39o 57' 26E, Clocks put back 5 min

Are these really  entries about a bright star? Or something else?

I don't know much about this myself, but there's a great freeware program (Windows) called 'Stellarium (http://www.stellarium.org/)'* which allows you to see the night sky at any date and time.  Having cranked up the software for the relevant date, time & lat/long above, it turns out:
a) at 0515 no planets are visible along the ecliptic - see attachments (Mercury & Venus are both below the horizon at that time)
    in fact there doesn't seem to be much at all visible at that time; Vega at 45deg elevation in the NW is probably the brightest object.
b) at 19.03 [and 19.30] the sun is still up

I just wonder, could 'Star' observations represent a different way of taking bearings?

NB1 *click to see website
NB2 I have no connection with Stellarium - it's just a great piece of software
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Bunting Tosser on 24 November 2011, 18:15:01

I just wonder, could 'Star' observations represent a different way of taking bearings?
Of course!  :-[
It's not "Observed" It's "Observation". Pole Star? "Follow the drinkin' gourd"
(Not to self: if you can't spare time to think, you haven't got time to post.)
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: heffkit on 24 November 2011, 18:40:56
Come on Bunts, don't be too hard on yourself - the more people put their pen'orth in, the greater the chance of the correct answer being mentioned...


...then it just becomes a matter of working out which of them all is the correct answer!!  ;D
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: jennfurr on 24 November 2011, 20:53:19
Clio's log, 18 July 1918: http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ADM53-38080/ADM%2053-38080-012_0.jpg

Morning: 5.15 Star Obs Lat 26o 25' 30"N Long 41o  8' 15"E

Evening: 7.3 Star obs Lat 17o 58'20"N Long 39o 57' 26E, Clocks put back 5 min

Are these really  entries about a bright star? Or something else?

I don't know much about this myself, but there's a great freeware program (Windows) called 'Stellarium (http://www.stellarium.org/)'* which allows you to see the night sky at any date and time.  Having cranked up the software for the relevant date, time & lat/long above, it turns out:
a) at 0515 no planets are visible along the ecliptic - see attachments (Mercury & Venus are both below the horizon at that time)
    in fact there doesn't seem to be much at all visible at that time; Vega at 45deg elevation in the NW is probably the brightest object.
b) at 19.03 [and 19.30] the sun is still up

I just wonder, could 'Star' observations represent a different way of taking bearings?

NB1 *click to see website
NB2 I have no connection with Stellarium - it's just a great piece of software

Awesome - installed and playing!
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: DJ_59 on 25 November 2011, 02:20:45

You rock, Heffkit.  This is great stuff.  And freeware?!  Amazing.  Love the grids.  Fancy.

Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Bunting Tosser on 25 November 2011, 09:05:55
Come on Bunts, don't be too hard on yourself - the more people put their pen'orth in, the greater the chance of the correct answer being mentioned...

...then it just becomes a matter of working out which of them all is the correct answer!!  ;D

Nah. It's not just that. I'm used to being wrong, even when I'm right.
I've got a touch of the Marvins, pardon me for breathing, because there was no noticeable reaction to:

http://forum.oldweather.org/index.php?topic=209.msg30591#msg30591

which I consider to be my best work.
Verily, a prophet is not without honour, save in his own country. 
 ;D
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Randi on 25 November 2011, 11:42:48
Come on Bunts, don't be too hard on yourself - the more people put their pen'orth in, the greater the chance of the correct answer being mentioned...

...then it just becomes a matter of working out which of them all is the correct answer!!  ;D

Nah. It's not just that. I'm used to being wrong, even when I'm right.
I've got a touch of the Marvins, pardon me for breathing, because there was no noticeable reaction to:

http://forum.oldweather.org/index.php?topic=209.msg30591#msg30591

which I consider to be my best work.
Verily, a prophet is not without honour, save in his own country. 
 ;D

We're all too worried about where our next log book is going to come from to appreciate the finer things in life :'( :-*
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Bunting Tosser on 25 November 2011, 13:02:09

We're all too worried about where our next log book is going to come from to appreciate the finer things in life :'( :-*

Wha-a-at?
You appear to be doubting the word of Caro.
"Sufficient unto the day is the evil thereof" as I'm sure helenj will confirm.
Go "consider the lilies of the field"! On second thoughts, better leave that for a few months.  ;D
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Randi on 25 November 2011, 14:09:09

We're all too worried about where our next log book is going to come from to appreciate the finer things in life :'( :-*

Wha-a-at?
You appear to be doubting the word of Caro.
"Sufficient unto the day is the evil thereof" as I'm sure helenj will confirm.
Go "consider the lilies of the field"! On second thoughts, better leave that for a few months.  ;D
If Caro were HANDLING the new logs I would have no worries whatsoever  :)
BUT, Caro is only QUOTING someone else  :(
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: heffkit on 25 November 2011, 14:21:24
Nah. It's not just that. I'm used to being wrong, even when I'm right.
I've got a touch of the Marvins, pardon me for breathing, because there was no noticeable reaction to:

http://forum.oldweather.org/index.php?topic=209.msg30591#msg30591

which I consider to be my best work.
Verily, a prophet is not without honour, save in his own country. 
 ;D
Bunts - we just know when we're outclassed.

One can't improve on perfection... ;D
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Bunting Tosser on 25 November 2011, 16:07:02

If Caro were HANDLING the new logs I would have no worries whatsoever  :)
BUT, Caro is only QUOTING someone else  :(
I think that's a fine get out of jail line.  ;D

Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Bunting Tosser on 25 November 2011, 16:10:17
Nah. It's not just that. I'm used to being wrong, even when I'm right.
I've got a touch of the Marvins, pardon me for breathing, because there was no noticeable reaction to:

http://forum.oldweather.org/index.php?topic=209.msg30591#msg30591

which I consider to be my best work.
Verily, a prophet is not without honour, save in his own country. 
 ;D
Bunts - we just know when we're outclassed.

One can't improve on perfection... ;D

Too late.
It seems like sympathy.  :'(
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Helen J on 25 November 2011, 16:55:54

We're all too worried about where our next log book is going to come from to appreciate the finer things in life :'( :-*

Wha-a-at?
You appear to be doubting the word of Caro.
"Sufficient unto the day is the evil thereof" as I'm sure helenj will confirm.
Go "consider the lilies of the field"! On second thoughts, better leave that for a few months.  ;D

The way I see it, Caro is as it were the prophet declaring what she's heard; we still need Higher Authority to actually give us the manna from heaven ie the new logs.
Sufficient unto the day indeed, but a day without any logs would be a seriously evil one, and I don't think transcribing lilies would be the same at all ....
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Randi on 25 November 2011, 18:39:23
 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: CHommel on 26 November 2011, 13:39:19
Do we know if the next batch will be additional logs from the same ships we've been working on, new ships, ships from a different time period?

Not that I'm excited, or anything...  ;D  Anticipation is, after all, at least half the fun...
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: dorbel on 30 November 2011, 04:11:11
5th October, 1915, from the log of "Atalanta, 10-55pm, at sea about 50 miles off the SW coast of Britain.
Celestial phenomena commencing with vivid flashes of light, the "tail" being visible for 10 minutes bearing East, in shape of [symbol] (a circle with projections at 45 and 315 degrees). Impossible to mistake aircraft or rocket for above.

A comet? An enormous meteorite?
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Caro on 30 November 2011, 04:30:15
The main belt asteroid Muazzez (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/3396_Muazzez) has the same discovery date.
Geoff may be able to tell us more.  ;)
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Geoff on 30 November 2011, 04:41:30
Could be a asteroid entering the atmosphere and burning up. It's just a coincidence that asteroid Muazzez was discovered on that day - if it had been Muazzez entering the atmosphere there would have been problems as it is 38 km in size!
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Caro on 30 November 2011, 04:48:32
 ;D Now that would have been something! Thanks Geoff.
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Geoff on 30 November 2011, 04:55:22
After a bit more research I found a reference to the Giocobinid meteor shower which occurs in October and was first recorded in 1915.
See: Meteor Showers - pdf (http://www.asterism.org/tutorials/tut36%20Meteor%20Showers.pdf)

Edit: Also called the Draconid meteor shower http://earthsky.org/tonight/legendary-draconids-boom-or-bust (http://earthsky.org/tonight/legendary-draconids-boom-or-bust)
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Randi on 02 December 2011, 15:11:12
HMS Victorian - Plymouth to Baltimore
4am PLog has been foul every hour during watch (Gulf weed)
8am 36 42N, 66 1W
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ADM%2053-67416/ADM%2053-67416-005_0.jpg
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Randi on 03 December 2011, 16:22:30
HMS Virginian - US to UK

log cleared of weed

8am 37 33N / 64 15W
and following day
8pm 37 50N / 58 35W

http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ADM%2053-67742/ADM%2053-67742-011_1.jpg
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: bpb42 on 04 December 2011, 06:52:13
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ADM%2053-67745/ADM%2053-67745-007_0.jpg

A gale in the North Atlantic; HMS Virginian 8th Nov' 1918, about a days sailing from Liverpool, records a wind force of  11-12 at 1AM, then Force 11 thru to 8AM.
The log page for Nov' 7th has a reading of force 8-9 at midnight and notes a boat blown from the
ships deck.
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Helen J on 06 December 2011, 13:55:55
July 4th 1917 in Dar-es-Salaam, a total eclipse of the moon recorded in the evening.

http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ADM_53-49478/ADM%2053-49478-005_0.jpg
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Bunting Tosser on 06 December 2011, 18:15:52
July 4th 1917 in Dar-es-Salaam, a total eclipse of the moon recorded in the evening.

http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ADM_53-49478/ADM%2053-49478-005_0.jpg
Wow!
Someone has a lot of clout, being able to organise that to celebrate Indepencence Day.
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Kathy on 06 December 2011, 18:18:48
 ;D ;D :P
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: CHommel on 06 December 2011, 21:28:58
Welland's log, 27 November 1916:  http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ADM%2053-68379/ADM%2053-68379-016_1.jpg

3.0 Observed bright W. light near. Minas Pk bg: S x E
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: bpb42 on 12 December 2011, 10:16:40
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ADM%2053-68459/ADM%2053-68459-011_0.jpg

HMS Weymouth, mid-Atlantic, 16th December 1916;- There is a lot happening here,- Force 11 winds, a depth charge swept overboard, - but what really caught my eye were the figures entered in the 'State of Sea' column. Throughout the morning Weymouth records '9' or '10' there. Both '9' & '10' on the RN Sea Disturbance Scale are defined as 'Phenomenal' 'Height of waves ... 36 feet and above'.

Bernie
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: heffkit on 14 December 2011, 14:03:34
HMS Barham, Portsmouth 25 Jun 21 (https://s3.amazonaws.com/oldweather/ADM53-70949/0138_1.jpg), 9pm

OK crew, brace yourselves...

(don't complain you haven't been warned)




(http://i1000.photobucket.com/albums/af129/heffkit/Barham210625-thunderstorm.png)
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Bunting Tosser on 14 December 2011, 14:06:32
HMS Barham, Portsmouth 25 Jun 21 (https://s3.amazonaws.com/oldweather/ADM53-70949/0138_1.jpg), 9pm

OK crew, brace yourselves...

(don't complain you haven't been warned)




(http://i1000.photobucket.com/albums/af129/heffkit/Barham210625-thunderstorm.png)

Not to worry; worse things happen at sea.
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: heffkit on 14 December 2011, 14:07:52
Sorry, Bunts - I'll move it to the correct thread immediately.


Teehee  ;)
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Bunting Tosser on 14 December 2011, 14:12:41
HMS Barham, Portsmouth 25 Jun 21 (https://s3.amazonaws.com/oldweather/ADM53-70949/0138_1.jpg), 9pm

OK crew, brace yourselves...

(don't complain you haven't been warned)




(http://i1000.photobucket.com/albums/af129/heffkit/Barham210625-thunderstorm.png)

Not to worry; worse things happen at sea.

Let's hope she never encounters an Inexperienced Thunder Storm.  ;D
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Bunting Tosser on 14 December 2011, 14:17:01
Sorry, Bunts - I'll move it to the correct thread immediately.


Teehee  ;)
Weren't me, Guv.
It were that Hanibal94.
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: h.kohler on 29 December 2011, 03:08:38
Finally I found it:

I was close to abandon, but after two hours of intensive search I found the quake felt on board Theseus:

Its magnitude was of 4.9 and the location: 37.700 N 24.300 E. There were two quakes of that magnitude on that day for the same position.
The other quakes must have had a magnitude on less than 4.5 as only those above have been registered in the catalogue.

September 30th: A magnitude of 5.2 is mentioned in the catalogue.

Here is the link: http://geophysics.geo.auth.gr/the_seisnet/WEBSITE_2005/station_index_en.html

You'll have to scroll down a lot to find more data on quakes for that region and period.
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Randi on 29 December 2011, 05:48:30
Finally I found it:

I was close to abandon, but after two hours of intensive search I found the quake felt on board Theseus:

Its magnitude was of 4.9 and the location: 37.700 N 24.300 E. There were two quakes of that magnitude on that day for the same position.
The other quakes must have had a magnitude on less than 4.5 as only those above have been registered in the catalogue.

September 30th: A magnitude of 5.2 is mentioned in the catalogue.

Here is the link: http://geophysics.geo.auth.gr/the_seisnet/WEBSITE_2005/station_index_en.html

You'll have to scroll down a lot to find more data on quakes for that region and period.
Good work! I spent some time looking for it, but I finally gave up.
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: tastiger on 29 December 2011, 12:33:22
Finally I found it:

I was close to abandon, but after two hours of intensive search I found the quake felt on board Theseus:

Its magnitude was of 4.9 and the location: 37.700 N 24.300 E. There were two quakes of that magnitude on that day for the same position.
The other quakes must have had a magnitude on less than 4.5 as only those above have been registered in the catalogue.

September 30th: A magnitude of 5.2 is mentioned in the catalogue.

Here is the link: http://geophysics.geo.auth.gr/the_seisnet/WEBSITE_2005/station_index_en.html

You'll have to scroll down a lot to find more data on quakes for that region and period.

Wow, thanks for this! I was wondering how big it was since it had so many aftershocks. ;D
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Carrie32 on 03 January 2012, 17:35:12

3.45pm Whirlpool!
https://s3.amazonaws.com/oldweather/ADM53-37568/013_0.jpg
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: PeteB9 on 07 January 2012, 06:53:39
Can anyone get the word preceding the phenonomen(whirlpool) observation at 3.45?

https://s3.amazonaws.com/oldweather/ADM53-37568/013_0.jpg (https://s3.amazonaws.com/oldweather/ADM53-37568/013_0.jpg)

My guess was "strange" but I could be wrong

HMS Chatham in the western med. heading for Marseilles BTW
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: szukacz on 07 January 2012, 08:03:55
I knew that someone somewhere has already encountered this phenomenon.
http://forum.oldweather.org/index.php?topic=1779.msg34210#msg34210
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Randi on 07 January 2012, 08:47:03
It does look like it could say 'strange'.
Since they went to investigate it and there seems to be a question mark after whirlpool, it seems a reasonable assumption.
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Bunting Tosser on 07 January 2012, 12:48:47
It does look like it could say 'strange'.
Since they went to investigate it and there seems to be a question mark after whirlpool, it seems a reasonable assumption.
I'm convinced that it is "strange".
I don't think it's a ? I believe Carrie32 has it correct as an exclamation mark, albeit an exaggerated "hollow" or "outline" one as befits the rarity of the occurrence.
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Randi on 07 January 2012, 13:27:10
It does look like it could say 'strange'.
Since they went to investigate it and there seems to be a question mark after whirlpool, it seems a reasonable assumption.
I'm convinced that it is "strange".
I don't think it's a ? I believe Carrie32 has it correct as an exclamation mark, albeit an exaggerated "hollow" or "outline" one as befits the rarity of the occurrence.
I had wondered about an exclamation point myself. Since I don't remember seeing either in text before, I don't know how they were written at that time.
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Bunting Tosser on 07 January 2012, 13:54:03

I had wondered about an exclamation point myself. Since I don't remember seeing either in text before, I don't know how they were written at that time.
There was a deal of latitude (!) allowed to the log keepers with their abbreviations and symbols for anchor, sun, moon etc. so a spot of embellishment for a punctuation mark in connection with a remarkable event would not seem inappropriate.
If szukacz is to be believed, the ! had not been invented when you started out, so your puzzlement is understandable.  ;D
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Randi on 07 January 2012, 14:09:20

I had wondered about an exclamation point myself. Since I don't remember seeing either in text before, I don't know how they were written at that time.
There was a deal of latitude (!) allowed to the log keepers with their abbreviations and symbols for anchor, sun, moon etc. so a spot of embellishment for a punctuation mark in connection with a remarkable event would not seem inappropriate.
If szukacz is to be believed, the ! had not been invented when you started out, so your puzzlement is understandable.  ;D
Neither had the ? ;D
(but I never saw a Apatosaurus water down the ink as much as some of our log keepers do ;))
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Bunting Tosser on 07 January 2012, 14:26:56

(but I never saw a Apatosaurus water down the ink as much as some of our log keepers do ;))

"Apatosaurus" - Crikey, I thought it was still called "Brontosaurus".
Thanks. That's my new thing learned today.  :)
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: sarah_trinity on 17 January 2012, 10:26:30
HMS Isis is at Kingston, Jamaica 12th August 1915, and is preparing for a hurricane. Can see the pressure dropping rapidly.
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: CHommel on 17 January 2012, 10:31:22
HMS Isis is at Kingston, Jamaica 12th August 1915, and is preparing for a hurricane. Can see the pressure dropping rapidly.

Welcome to the forum, sarah_trinity!

Could you provide the link to the page?  If you "right click" on the page you were transcribing, "Copy Image Location" is one of the choices that comes up.  You can then paste this into your original e-mail, to allow others to view the same page.  Look forward to seeing it...

Hope you continue to enjoy OW.

Carolyn
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Bunting Tosser on 17 January 2012, 10:34:47
HMS Isis is at Kingston, Jamaica 12th August 1915, and is preparing for a hurricane. Can see the pressure dropping rapidly.
Hello, sarah3,
(For the second time) Welcome to the Forum.
Thanks for the weather warning - I'm grateful to be in Gibraltar.
"Batten down the hatches!" and get ready for a list of stuff damaged or lost overboard.

Bunts
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: jil on 21 January 2012, 06:36:37
HMS Empress at Port Said 4th July 1917

Total eclipse of the moon.

https://s3.amazonaws.com/oldweather/ADM53-40785/0007_0.jpg
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Hanibal94 on 05 March 2012, 16:26:27
HMS Renown was present during an earthquake in Japan:
https://s3.amazonaws.com/oldweather/ADM53-82386/0142_1.jpg
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Helen J on 06 March 2012, 15:46:48
HMS Sandpiper came close to a typhoon; they're at Canton.
6.35am Typhoon, E of Hongkong, black signal hoisted from Custom Tower
8.50am Typhoon SE Hongkong.
There's no further mention of the typhoon, so presumably it headed off somewhere else.

https://s3.amazonaws.com/oldweather/ADM53-59114/0081_0.jpg

Spoke too soon - the next day it's still around; at 7.50am it's S of Hongkong; and at 0.30 SW.

https://s3.amazonaws.com/oldweather/ADM53-59114/0081_1.jpg
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Craig on 07 March 2012, 21:13:36
I think I did the same date for the Sandpiper, helnj. The logger seemed a bit nervous. Then a few days later (19 September) he was frantically recording the barometer readings every half hour from 2 AM to 9 AM, dropping all the time as the rain codes got darker and bolder. During that time a seaman drowned and they had to call on two other ships to drag for his body. I recorded the sailor's name - Henry Glazier. There was an inquest but I don't imagine the log will be privy to the outcome.

I was disappointed to log on this evening and see that the Sandpiper is now in Hong Kong and it's November 7 1913. Please let me know if you found anything out about the drowned sailor.

I wonder how the analysts are going to ever figure out where the Sandpiper was on the West River? The China Sea Directory was a bit helpful but many of the places I encountered are not mentioned and the logger makes his w's u's like n's like m's, etc. ;D

Craig
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 08 March 2012, 00:19:03
See http://forum.oldweather.org/index.php?topic=2584.msg37432#msg37432 , Craig, for more on that sailor.
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Helen J on 08 March 2012, 13:38:48
I think I did the same date for the Sandpiper, helnj. The logger seemed a bit nervous. Then a few days later (19 September) he was frantically recording the barometer readings every half hour from 2 AM to 9 AM, dropping all the time as the rain codes got darker and bolder. During that time a seaman drowned and they had to call on two other ships to drag for his body. I recorded the sailor's name - Henry Glazier. There was an inquest but I don't imagine the log will be privy to the outcome.

I was disappointed to log on this evening and see that the Sandpiper is now in Hong Kong and it's November 7 1913. Please let me know if you found anything out about the drowned sailor.

I wonder how the analysts are going to ever figure out where the Sandpiper was on the West River? The China Sea Directory was a bit helpful but many of the places I encountered are not mentioned and the logger makes his w's u's like n's like m's, etc. ;D

Craig

Janet beat me to it on the sailor (who was Glozier, by common consent).  As to locations - I'm working on the principle that probably in weather terms it's all quite a small area, and just do the best I can.  They get to Canton or Hongkong often enough to give some certainty.  I haven't yet managed to find an online edition of the China Sea Directory - could you post a link please?
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Craig on 08 March 2012, 15:15:01
http://books.google.ca/books?id=_fkNAQAAIAAJ&pg=PA135&lpg=PA135&dq=campbell+island,+china&source=bl&ots=CVq6babb_2&sig=2XO1vmEDm-hAeUAHYRrKIecBSo8&hl=en&ei=i5ASTYaILszvngea27n_DQ&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&redir_esc=y#v=onepage&q&f=false

It helps some, but there's a lot of places that aren't mentioned.

Craig
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Helen J on 10 March 2012, 11:51:47
HMS Psyche, between Port Adelaide and Melbourne, 15th September 1913.

Observed nearly total eclipse of moon.

https://s3.amazonaws.com/oldweather/ADM53-56061/0015_0.jpg
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: h.kohler on 11 March 2012, 09:35:07
HMS Renown was present during an earthquake in Japan:
https://s3.amazonaws.com/oldweather/ADM53-82386/0142_1.jpg

At first I abandoned the search for that quake after many hours which was frustrating. But today I changed the research data and finally I found it. Its magnitude was of 6.8 on the Japanese scale which is similar to the Mercali scale.
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Helen J on 19 April 2012, 12:38:32
HMS Wisteria, West Indies, 26th July 1922:

https://s3.amazonaws.com/oldweather/ADM53-93268/0016_0.jpg

5.45am Sighted water spout 5' S of Pt Fantasque (?) Gonave Island.
6.0 Waterspout subsided.

Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Randi on 19 April 2012, 13:56:07
Pointe Fantasque - Ile de la Gonave, Haiti
http://www.geographic.org/geographic_names/name.php?uni=-95853&fid=2248&c=haiti

(there is another point with the same name on the Haitian 'mainland')
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Helen J on 19 April 2012, 15:01:52
Thanks, good to know I'd read that right.
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: bpb42 on 19 April 2012, 18:27:36
https://s3.amazonaws.com/oldweather/ADM53-81165/0068_0.jpg
https://s3.amazonaws.com/oldweather/ADM53-81165/0068_1.jpg

HMS Mutine, at the RN Dockyard, Bermuda, on the evening of Sept' 14th 1921 and all day on
the 15th, records hurricance force winds and squalls.
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Helen J on 21 April 2012, 12:45:11
Titanic moments on HMS Wisteria, 20th September 1922:

05.37 Passed a small iceberg, N25W, 0.5 mile
06.10 Passed large berg, N25W, 0.5'

We're on the west coast of Newfoundland; midday obs 50 51.7 N/57 20.6W

https://s3.amazonaws.com/oldweather/ADM53-93269/0013_0.jpg
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: bpb42 on 29 April 2012, 06:34:46
https://s3.amazonaws.com/oldweather/ADM53-81166/0035_1.jpg
https://s3.amazonaws.com/oldweather/ADM53-81166/0035_0.jpg
https://s3.amazonaws.com/oldweather/ADM53-81166/0034_1.jpg

HMS Mutine, 9-11th December 1921, Hamilton Harbour Bermuda;- three days of tropical storms.
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: sean0118 on 02 May 2012, 06:21:11
"Confused Sea and NE Swell"

On HMS Ebro with weather recordings every hour...  ;D

http://www.oldweather.org/classify?vessel_id=4ef4f702e53e0a0c9100237f
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: sunshine16 on 04 May 2012, 09:39:09
HMS Iphigenia, 31st MArch 1916, in Kola Inlet, poss Severomorsk :
Heavy pack ice drifting in harbour
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: jil on 07 May 2012, 07:55:01
HMS Gloucestershire 13th August 1917 - 09.50 Obs: iceberg 50 ft high 2 1/2 miles distant. Lat: 48 17 N Long 48 6 W

They had been in fog for some time so lucky they weren't too close to it!

http://s3.amazonaws.com/oldweather/ADM53-43102/ADM%2053-43102-009_1.jpg
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: DJ_59 on 07 May 2012, 23:40:27

Blind luck.  Literally.
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Randi on 08 May 2012, 02:05:17
 ;D
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: sunshine16 on 10 May 2012, 08:15:05
HMS Iphigenia, 30th may 1916, Murmansk (I think) - all week has been the same - Ship surrounded by heavy pack ice.
http://s3.amazonaws.com/oldweather/ADM53-44933/ADM%2053-44933-017_1.jpg
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Randi on 10 May 2012, 12:44:57
?
HMS Edinburgh Castle 14th January 1915 Gibraltar

7.30 Large ball of fire passed over ship & fell into sea 1 mile dist coming from N.E
http://s3.amazonaws.com/oldweather/ADM53-40562/ADM%2053-40562-085_1.jpg

No further explanation given
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: jdulak on 10 May 2012, 18:03:53
While not mentioned in the "Remarks" section the HMS Glasgow, October 3 1914 off the south coast of the Falklands certainly has some "Interesting" weather.

http://s3.amazonaws.com/oldweather/ADM53-42828/ADM%2053-42828-087_1.jpg

John Dulak
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: h.kohler on 14 May 2012, 17:10:25
H.M.S. Glasgow must have experienced quite some really bad weather with winds jumping from 4 to 10 and from 4 to 12 Beaufort.

http://s3.amazonaws.com/oldweather/ADM53-42828/ADM%2053-42828-150_0.jpg
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 14 May 2012, 19:28:29
I've seen thankfully rare Mid-West windstorms like that, microbursts that are very damaging at irregular intervals.  bcQmr pretty much describes it.
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 15 May 2012, 01:42:22
I had better start stocking up on the 'quells' for Feb 15
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Craig on 16 May 2012, 11:22:01
Edinburgh Castle, Jan. 1, 1915.  Wind speed 10, pressure 29.16 and heavy seas. Logger writes "Ship taking scary seas on board fore & aft".

http://s3.amazonaws.com/oldweather/ADM53-40562/ADM%2053-40562-079_0.jpg
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Craig on 17 May 2012, 06:12:48
Edinburgh Castle, Jan 1-3, 1914 between Azores and Plymouth:

I find it strange that the barometer pressure continued to drop long after the winds died down during a strong gale. When the wind force was at its peak of 10, the pressure was about 29.20 but the pressure bottomed out at 28.68 24 hours later when the wind had dropped to 3.  ???
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: bpb42 on 27 May 2012, 18:34:19
http://s3.amazonaws.com/oldweather/ADM53-45028/ADM%2053-45028-014_1.jpg

HMS Isis, getting a little bit bent out of shape, by Hurricane 11 of 1916, on September 23rd of that year in Bermuda.
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: sunshine16 on 28 May 2012, 07:52:33
HMS Foxglove, 30th may 1920, between Singapore and Saigon :
10-0 till 11-30 Curious yellow dis-colouration of sea noticable
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: sunshine16 on 28 May 2012, 10:20:30
HMS Foxglove, 30th June 1920, Hong Kong - Typhoon warning hoisted on Tamar
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Helen J on 16 June 2012, 23:52:14
25th August 1914, HMS Fame at Hong Kong records 'Black typhoon signal hoisted'  (and then immediately records two other ships sailing ....)

http://s3.amazonaws.com/oldweather/ADM53-41466/ADM%2053-41466-030_0.jpg
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 19 June 2012, 02:21:49
25th August 1914, HMS Fame at Hong Kong records 'Black typhoon signal hoisted'  (and then immediately records two other ships sailing ....)

http://s3.amazonaws.com/oldweather/ADM53-41466/ADM%2053-41466-030_0.jpg

The black symbols indicate that the tropical cyclone in question is less than 300 miles (480 km) from Hong Kong, while the red symbols indicate that the tropical cyclone is over 300 miles (480 km) away from Hong Kong.[1]  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hong_Kong_tropical_cyclone_warning_signals (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hong_Kong_tropical_cyclone_warning_signals)

I was in Hong Kong Harbour in about May 1971 on the MV Aeneas when they hoisted a Typhoon signal.  I cannot remember colour, but I think it may have been Red for the Cat2 Dinah which ended up going south of HK. We headed UP river. don't know why, I was just driving the engines. All was well and we missed the brunt of it.
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Helen J on 19 June 2012, 18:34:10
25th August 1914, HMS Fame at Hong Kong records 'Black typhoon signal hoisted'  (and then immediately records two other ships sailing ....)

http://s3.amazonaws.com/oldweather/ADM53-41466/ADM%2053-41466-030_0.jpg

The black symbols indicate that the tropical cyclone in question is less than 300 miles (480 km) from Hong Kong, while the red symbols indicate that the tropical cyclone is over 300 miles (480 km) away from Hong Kong.[1]  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hong_Kong_tropical_cyclone_warning_signals (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hong_Kong_tropical_cyclone_warning_signals)

I was in Hong Kong Harbour in about May 1971 on the MV Aeneas when they hoisted a Typhoon signal.  I cannot remember colour, but I think it may have been Red for the Cat2 Dinah which ended up going south of HK. We headed UP river. don't know why, I was just driving the engines. All was well and we missed the brunt of it.

Thanks Stuart, I'd vaguely wondered what other colours there might be and what they meant but was too idle to look it up!
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 20 June 2012, 02:48:06
I think it would be a case of you being TO BUSY with OW problems rather than to idle.
Stuart.
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: jil on 22 June 2012, 05:17:36
HMS Gloucestershire 15th August 1918 - Sighted large Iceberg bearing S45E appx height 250 ft

http://s3.amazonaws.com/oldweather/ADM53-43114/ADM%2053-43114-009a_1.jpg
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: jil on 22 June 2012, 12:18:37
HMS Edinburgh Castle - Sighted Chuy River Lt 6' outside range due to mirage   ???

http://s3.amazonaws.com/oldweather/ADM53-40586/ADM%2053-40586-016_1.jpg
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Karijn on 22 June 2012, 13:19:57
I've always learned that a mirage is a distorted sighting of a thing that is actually there, but appears to be displaced, smaller, upside down etc.
I think in this case the crew noticed the lighthouse, but also noticed it wasn't where it was supposed to be, and thus it must be a mirage.

http://www.islandnet.com/~see/weather/elements/supmrge.htm (http://www.islandnet.com/~see/weather/elements/supmrge.htm)
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: jil on 24 June 2012, 07:09:43
Thanks Karijn, that article is really interesting.
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: h.kohler on 25 June 2012, 03:07:33
H.M.S. Glasgow altered courses to avoid watersports waterspouts.

http://s3.amazonaws.com/oldweather/ADM53-42862/ADM%2053-42862-010_1.jpg
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: jil on 27 June 2012, 07:11:42
HMS Gloucestershire 22nd November 1918 -  a/c 1 point to Starbd. to avoid waterspout

http://s3.amazonaws.com/oldweather/ADM53-43117/ADM%2053-43117-013_0.jpg
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Craig on 28 June 2012, 16:59:44
Here's a sour note at 4:15 PM. It's amazing that lemons grow in the Ambrose Channel  :D

http://s3.amazonaws.com/oldweather/ADM53-40600/ADM%2053-40600-008_1.jpg
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: jil on 28 June 2012, 17:22:33
Here's a sour note at 4:15 PM. It's amazing that lemons grow in the Ambrose Channel  :D

http://s3.amazonaws.com/oldweather/ADM53-40600/ADM%2053-40600-008_1.jpg
:o Any sign of any gin and tonic to go with those?  :P
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Bunting Tosser on 28 June 2012, 18:07:54
Here's a sour note at 4:15 PM. It's amazing that lemons grow in the Ambrose Channel  :D

http://s3.amazonaws.com/oldweather/ADM53-40600/ADM%2053-40600-008_1.jpg
:o Any sign of any gin and tonic to go with those?  :P

Please fetch the gin from the Wardroom, I'm off to snare an iceberg.
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: AvastMH on 28 June 2012, 18:48:52
 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

 (pssst - what happened to the starboard otter?)
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Craig on 28 June 2012, 19:29:33
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

 (pssst - what happened to the starboard otter?)

She got streamed  ;D
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: AvastMH on 28 June 2012, 19:41:59
 :D :D :D
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 28 June 2012, 20:15:29
otter
In naval mine warfare, a device which, when towed, displaces itself sideways to a predetermined distance.

http://www.definitions.net/definition/otter (http://www.definitions.net/definition/otter)

My guess is that the Otter was used to tow a line which could snag mines away from the ship.
Does anybody know the real purpose of the Otter?
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Bunting Tosser on 28 June 2012, 21:40:40
otter
In naval mine warfare, a device which, when towed, displaces itself sideways to a predetermined distance.

http://www.definitions.net/definition/otter (http://www.definitions.net/definition/otter)

My guess is that the Otter was used to tow a line which could snag mines away from the ship.
Does anybody know the real purpose of the Otter?
Yep.
It proved to be a very attractive subject.
http://forum.oldweather.org/index.php?topic=1447.msg21010#msg21010 and posts immediately preceding it.
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 28 June 2012, 22:55:11
Good find Bunts.
I think I would rather have the stern towed model rather than the bow one.  ::)
The anchoring cable could not have been that strong if dragging it in the jaws cut it.  :-\
 
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Randi on 29 June 2012, 02:02:26
Here's a sour note at 4:15 PM. It's amazing that lemons grow in the Ambrose Channel  :D

http://s3.amazonaws.com/oldweather/ADM53-40600/ADM%2053-40600-008_1.jpg
I'd call that an Unnatural phenomenon ;)
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 29 June 2012, 02:49:06
It does leave a sour taste.  :'(
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Craig on 29 June 2012, 06:03:22
Here's a sour note at 4:15 PM. It's amazing that lemons grow in the Ambrose Channel  :D

http://s3.amazonaws.com/oldweather/ADM53-40600/ADM%2053-40600-008_1.jpg
I'd call that an Unnatural phenomenon ;)

[img] (http://www.desismileys.com/)
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Helen J on 03 July 2012, 13:03:21
Not sure whether this is a natural phenomena or not - it's from HMS Hilary, 22nd July 1916, off the north east corner of Iceland:

9pm Clouds of very fine dust resembling fog flowing off the land.

There aren't any other clues in the log that I can see as to what might have been causing it

http://s3.amazonaws.com/oldweather/ADM53-44334/ADM%2053-44334-014_0.jpg
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 03 July 2012, 13:16:13
I've seen news stories with film clips like that from Texas lately and from Oregon/Washington when Mount Helena blew, only overland not from an island being blown to sea.  It's a dust storm, either desert sand, dried out farm soil from a drought, or volcanic ash.  And if you're in the middle of one, it is both blinding and dangerous to your lungs.
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Helen J on 03 July 2012, 15:01:51
I had wondered about volcanic ash, given our location off Iceland - not very likely to be desert sand!
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Dean on 03 July 2012, 19:34:03
I had wondered about volcanic ash, given our location off Iceland - not very likely to be desert sand!

When I taught Science I had a movie about an Icelandic Volcano called 'Surtsey.' It showed the formation, etc.  A friend just sent me a bunch of pics about someone sailing through what looks like desert sand out in the Pacific and then the mountain forming from the water.  I'll do some research and see what I can find. :)

Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: h.kohler on 04 July 2012, 04:21:15
I had wondered about volcanic ash, given our location off Iceland - not very likely to be desert sand!

I agree with you helenj, but this ash did not come from a volcanic eruption in Iceland as for 1916 there were no eruptions recorded there. There were eruptions around the world but it is unlikely that ashes from there were blown up there without being dispersed. My conclusion is that there must have been strong winds over Iceland that blew all this ash towards the sea.
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Helen J on 04 July 2012, 15:20:52
I had wondered about volcanic ash, given our location off Iceland - not very likely to be desert sand!

I agree with you helenj, but this ash did not come from a volcanic eruption in Iceland as for 1916 there were no eruptions recorded there. There were eruptions around the world but it is unlikely that ashes from there were blown up there without being dispersed. My conclusion is that there must have been strong winds over Iceland that blew all this ash towards the sea.

Thanks - I'd had a little look around and couldn't find an Icelandic eruption for 1916 - it's good to know that I haven't missed anything.
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: AvastMH on 04 July 2012, 16:18:57
  I found this reference from March this year:
'To date, most studies of dust have looked at dry, hot regions such as the Sahara. But high latitudes can also create dust, which is why a joint US?UK study has examined data from Iceland.'
and here's the article from the Environmental Research Web:

Perhaps we could pass this log event back to Joanna Bullard of the University of Loughborough, UK.?
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Randi on 04 July 2012, 16:25:19
Good work!
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: AvastMH on 04 July 2012, 17:37:03
Here's a sour note at 4:15 PM. It's amazing that lemons grow in the Ambrose Channel  :D

http://s3.amazonaws.com/oldweather/ADM53-40600/ADM%2053-40600-008_1.jpg

Now - we all know it to be a small world,,,but the other night I regaled my neighbour with the story about the lemons. 'Ah!' she said 'just like our harbour of oranges'. She was in Spain one summer when a vicious storm went through the orange groves - many fell into the local river and were bourn away to the harbour...where my neighbour found them the next day.
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Craig on 05 July 2012, 06:53:55
Aha! So I was almost right to put the lemon event under "natural phenomenon", Randi  ;D. ("Almost", because groves of lemon trees are probably not natural). Thanks for this Ava  ;D
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Randi on 05 July 2012, 07:04:35
 ;D
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: jil on 06 July 2012, 06:07:19
HMS Gloucestershire 20th March 1917 - Close up to Ice pack in Lat 66.35N. Long 27.23 W. Courses & speeds various along edge of Ice pack to Lat 66.50 N Long 27.16W

http://s3.amazonaws.com/oldweather/ADM53-43097/ADM%2053-43097-014_0.jpg
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: jil on 06 July 2012, 09:16:42
HMS Gloucestershire - more ice locating
http://s3.amazonaws.com/oldweather/ADM53-43098/ADM%2053-43098-005_0.jpg
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: KS247 on 06 July 2012, 09:37:41
Just in case it hasn't been noted already - HMS Gloucestershire 8 April 1917, off Iceland "Experienced fall of thick black snow apparently due to volcanic dust".
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: AvastMH on 06 July 2012, 10:56:53
Not sure whether this is a natural phenomena or not - it's from HMS Hilary, 22nd July 1916, off the north east corner of Iceland:

9pm Clouds of very fine dust resembling fog flowing off the land.

There aren't any other clues in the log that I can see as to what might have been causing it

http://s3.amazonaws.com/oldweather/ADM53-44334/ADM%2053-44334-014_0.jpg
Just in case it hasn't been noted already - HMS Gloucestershire 8 April 1917, off Iceland "Experienced fall of thick black snow apparently due to volcanic dust".



Posted by: AvastMH
? on: July 04, 2012, 09:18:57 PM ?
 I found this reference from March this year:
'To date, most studies of dust have looked at dry, hot regions such as the Sahara. But high latitudes can also create dust, which is why a joint US?UK study has examined data from Iceland.'
and here's the article from the Environmental Research Web: {see my posting of July 4th -Ava}

Perhaps we could pass this log event back to Joanna Bullard of the University of Loughborough, UK.?
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Well this all fits together rather nicely!
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Helen J on 06 July 2012, 11:53:53
It depends on your definition of small .... this is Hilary's phlegmatic logkeeper on 7th October 1916; the midday location is 66 35 N 22 42 W, between Iceland and Greenland.

11am Passed small iceberg 90 ft high

http://s3.amazonaws.com/oldweather/ADM53-44337/ADM%2053-44337-006_1.jpg

On the following day, there's another one - Passed iceberg.  Lat 65 55 N Long 27 24 W.
And another one - Passed large iceberg in Lat 66 2N Long 27 13 W

http://s3.amazonaws.com/oldweather/ADM53-44337/ADM%2053-44337-007_0.jpg

And another two on the following day, and one of them is big:
10am Passed iceberg in Lat 65 53 N Long 27 55 W. 10.35am Courses as req circling large iceberg 200 ft high in Lat 65 57 N Long 27 40 W

http://s3.amazonaws.com/oldweather/ADM53-44337/ADM%2053-44337-007_1.jpg

And yet more on 15th October - they're now being recorded rather as though they're ships ...
5.15am passed Iceberg, bearing WSW 2' 
5.40am Passed Iceberg ENE 3'

http://s3.amazonaws.com/oldweather/ADM53-44337/ADM%2053-44337-010_1.jpg
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: jil on 09 July 2012, 12:07:27
HMS Moorhen - very brief violent storm at 7am

https://s3.amazonaws.com/oldweather/ADM53-80951/011_1.jpg
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Dean on 09 July 2012, 19:10:56
Here are two items for the volcanic dust that are fairly 'recent.' (2006)

Wikipedia:    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pumice_raft

A yacht sailed through the 'desert' in the middle of the Pacific.  The pics are fascinating.

                http://yacht-maiken.blogspot.co.uk/2006/08/stone-sea-and-volcano.html 8)

Enjoy!

P.S. Thank Caro - SHE found the http address. I had gotten the pics in an email that was too large for me to upload so I shared them with her hoping to get them posted somehow!  We  have some VERY talented people in this group and I am thankful for their help :D
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: jil on 10 July 2012, 02:39:35
Interesting pics. Coincidentally the BBC are showing a series of programs this week called Volcano Live and last night they visited the Icelandic volcano with the unpronouncable name that produced huge amounts of ash.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p00tmqd6
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 10 July 2012, 02:53:28
A yacht sailed through the 'desert' in the middle of the Pacific.  The pics are fascinating.

                http://yacht-maiken.blogspot.co.uk/2006/08/stone-sea-and-volcano.html 8)

Wow, that's something you don't see everyday, a new Island born.  I will have to add that to Randi_2's database (if anybody knows it's name)
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: AvastMH on 10 July 2012, 03:03:35
Amazing photos...but, quite frankly, just a tad scarey  :o  :o  :o
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Randi on 10 July 2012, 04:26:20
A yacht sailed through the 'desert' in the middle of the Pacific.  The pics are fascinating.

                http://yacht-maiken.blogspot.co.uk/2006/08/stone-sea-and-volcano.html 8)

Wow, that's something you don't see everyday, a new Island born.  I will have to add that to Randi_2's database (if anybody knows it's name)
;D
I don't think "middle of the Pacific" qualifies as Latin America though ;)
Kathy's database on the other hand...
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Caro on 10 July 2012, 09:45:00
The 'ephemeral' island is Home Reef: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Home_Reef  ;)
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 10 July 2012, 16:40:58
Thanks Caro.
Looks like only 4/5 days cruising from OZ, not that I have a ship.
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: bpb42 on 10 July 2012, 18:25:49
HMS Devonshire, 9th October 1918,
'Westerly gale' , the phrase used on the log page seems a bit of a understatement.
http://s3.amazonaws.com/oldweather/ADM53-39759/ADM%2053-39759-220_1.jpg
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Dean on 10 July 2012, 19:31:09
HMS Devonshire, 9th October 1918,
'Westerly gale' , the phrase used on the log page seems a bit of a understatement.
http://s3.amazonaws.com/oldweather/ADM53-39759/ADM%2053-39759-220_1.jpg

I'm jealous! I've followed her faithfully for months and it's all been boring and then you come and get a torpedoing and a gale :P
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: KS247 on 23 July 2012, 13:52:11
Not sure if this has been recorded already but HMS Fame, 20 June 1919, on way from Hong Kong to Pratas Reef - 0350 Large meteor observed to Eastward visible from 90 degrees to 10 degrees in height.

http://s3.amazonaws.com/oldweather/ADM53-41490/ADM%2053-41490-013_0.jpg
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Randi on 03 August 2012, 14:31:18
USS Rodgers - 26/06/1881

8 PM to Mid  Very brilliant Comet in sight to the Nrd + Erd at 10

http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/USS%20Rodgers/Rodgers_1881/b001of010_0032_1.jpg



Still being reported on 06/07/1881
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Craig on 03 August 2012, 15:22:41
I found the Great Comet of 1881 but it was in May http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_non-periodic_comets. Perhaps this one was only visible in sparsely inhabited regions.
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: AvastMH on 03 August 2012, 16:28:59
http://thesoftanonymous.com/2012/05/08/the-astronomical-drawings-of-monsieur-trouvelot/

Here's the June comet as drawn by Msr Trouvelot
What a whopper!
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: AvastMH on 03 August 2012, 16:30:58
I found the Great Comet of 1881 but it was in May http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_non-periodic_comets. Perhaps this one was only visible in sparsely inhabited regions.
Perhaps 1881 was a good year for comet gazers. WHICH REMINDS ME FOLKS - THE PERSEIDS have already started - max on Aug 12th when it will be about new moon time hurrah!
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: AvastMH on 03 August 2012, 16:33:15
COMET C/1881 K1 (GREAT COMET; O.S. 1881 III). Visible to the naked eye from late May until the end of July; T = 1881 June 16. Also known as "Comet Tebbutt". Discovered in the far southern sky on May 22, moving due northward along the fifth-hour meridian of right ascension. Until mid-June, visible only from the southern hemisphere. Comet brightened from fifth to first magnitude, tail up to 10 degrees long. On June 19, passed almost directly between the earth and sun. During the second half of June, visible to observers in the northern hemisphere as it crossed Taurus, Auriga, and Camelopardalis. June 25, comet of first magnitude with a 20-degree tail. Reported as first to second magnitude with a 14-degree tail on June 27 -- at which time the comet was a circumpolar object for Europe, etc. In the middle of July, of third magnitude, the tail's length rapidly decreasing. Still faintly visible to the unaided eye at the very end of July, when approaching the north celestial pole.

Thw may and june comets were one and the same by the looks of it... ;D ;D
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Randi on 03 August 2012, 16:34:08
Good work you two!
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: AvastMH on 03 August 2012, 17:02:10
It seems that this comet was extremely important to science - a real celebrity of its day. If you want to know more there is a brilliant scientific article here:
http://adsabs.harvard.edu/full/1999IrAJ...26...33O  for those, like me, who feel a little eentsy bit anorak about these things.

PS _ There's another whopper due in 1882! ;D
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Dean on 04 August 2012, 08:07:35
I KNOW I recently saw a great 'poster'- I think from Janet - about the cloud types. I can't find it!

If you are interested in more and about the water cycle, This was just posted by CoCoRaHS.org  - the Univ. of Colorado Weather study that I take part in with the National Weather Service.  Very informative - and cute!

http://www.youtube.com/watch_pop_up?v=ZzY5-NZSzVw&feature=youtu.be
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Randi on 04 August 2012, 08:17:16
I think you mean this one?
http://forum.oldweather.org/index.php?topic=2977.msg47819#msg47819
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 04 August 2012, 16:23:30
I just moved it - it's now its own stickied FAQ post. :)
http://forum.oldweather.org/index.php?topic=3003.0
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Dean on 04 August 2012, 19:46:03
Randi: Thanks for finding it!

Janet:  I'll redo my post under yours!
BTW _ Looks like some severe weather headed your way (Sat 7:15pm EDT)  Stay Safe!!!
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 04 August 2012, 23:33:59
Definitely serious storms, but very short-lived.  We had a "cold" front come through, dropping temps from 93 to 72, that's a lot of energy released - gusts as high as 80 mph.  But the only serious damage seems to be to Lallapalooza, a huge music festival going on in Grant Park (downtown lakefront.)  They shut it down for a couple of hours for safety, and herded something like 100,000 people into the underground garages for temporary shelter.  The storms were moving fast, came and gone that fast.

And I definitely stayed safe.  Easy to just sit down and stay dry for just a couple of hours.  Tomorrow should be much more pleasant to be out in.
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 16 August 2012, 17:36:27
I found this cloud identification page interesting, when searching for cloud type CA. (still looking)

http://www.ec.gc.ca/meteoaloeil-skywatchers/default.asp?lang=En&n=5A0D647D-1 (http://www.ec.gc.ca/meteoaloeil-skywatchers/default.asp?lang=En&n=5A0D647D-1)



I copied this to the Cloud Types Listed : http://forum.oldweather.org/index.php?topic=3003.0 --- randi
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: AvastMH on 16 August 2012, 17:42:05
Very handy especially the pictures...thanks Stuart
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 16 August 2012, 19:27:29
Very nice poster!  Thanks.

Might CA be a backwards AltoCumulus?  I can't think of anything else from those charts.
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Craig on 16 August 2012, 21:21:50
Did you ever read Cloud Atlas, by David Mitchell?  :P

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cloud_Atlas_(novel)
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Bunting Tosser on 16 August 2012, 21:43:47
I found this cloud identification page interesting, when searching for cloud type CA. (still looking)

http://www.ec.gc.ca/meteoaloeil-skywatchers/default.asp?lang=En&n=5A0D647D-1 (http://www.ec.gc.ca/meteoaloeil-skywatchers/default.asp?lang=En&n=5A0D647D-1)


This is not to be regarded as "homework" to find an explanation of "circumzenithal arc" but I particularly like #5 & #6:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/weather/feeds/19257903
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: AvastMH on 16 August 2012, 21:53:32
Bunts!!! Brilliant to see you back!!  :o  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 16 August 2012, 22:47:23
Bunts is back. Yah    ;D

I like the pic from Buntingdon.    ;)
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Kathy on 16 August 2012, 23:34:50
 :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-*
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 17 August 2012, 00:14:34
I hope those kisses were for me Kathy, but I suspect they were for Bunts.
 
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Randi on 17 August 2012, 02:16:09
I found this cloud identification page interesting, when searching for cloud type CA. (still looking)

http://www.ec.gc.ca/meteoaloeil-skywatchers/default.asp?lang=En&n=5A0D647D-1 (http://www.ec.gc.ca/meteoaloeil-skywatchers/default.asp?lang=En&n=5A0D647D-1)


This is not to be regarded as "homework" to find an explanation of "circumzenithal arc" but I particularly like #5 & #6:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/weather/feeds/19257903

So happy to see you!!!  :-* :-* :-* :-* :-*
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: studentforever on 17 August 2012, 02:48:56
Hope you are back to stay for a while.
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: jil on 17 August 2012, 04:33:15
Bunts, great to hear from you again  ;D  ;D  ;D
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Dean on 17 August 2012, 08:08:36
Welcome back, Bunts!  We missed you!! :-*
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Kathy on 17 August 2012, 12:20:26
These are for you Stuart -  :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-*
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: szukacz on 17 August 2012, 14:06:59
Bunts! Hi!  :D :D
Barrel of rum on the table. For the morning!  ;D
(http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSPuZ32q3d9is2o6g_yV9jdxIs2PY0ixb-dhEq0CcjzPNo_dwb5fA)
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Bunting Tosser on 17 August 2012, 17:48:00
Bunts! Hi!  :D :D
Barrel of rum on the table. For the morning!  ;D

Good Health, szukacz!
Hi, Folks, very flattering welcome, thanks. It's so much appreciated that I'm going to disappear again so I can bask in in the glow of another re-appearance.
I've got two out of three projects half done and am steeling myself for (or distracting myself from) a thorough immersion in the next couple of weeks. That's without employing Dean's Theorem:
Quote
I have learned how to estimate time required for a task.. Take the time expected - DOUBLE the number, and then raise the unit to the NEXT HIGHER.
But I must have a crack at the new logs before they are all taken. (I gather that a  ;D may be appropriate at this point.)

Mrs B. recorded the Olympic opening ceremony for me to watch. It's on my "to do" list. It reminded me of an old joke which is here, especially for szukacz - who may be the only one not to have heard it.
I saw a man entering the Olympic Stadium. He was carrying a five metre long, fairly thin, cylindrical  case.
I asked him "Are you a pole vaulter?"
He replied "No, I am German, but how do you know my name?"
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Karijn on 17 August 2012, 18:27:08
 ;D
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 17 August 2012, 20:27:35
These are for you Stuart -  :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-*

Arr ge fanks Kafy.

(Lets keep this our secret.  ;)  )
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Helen J on 10 September 2012, 13:42:30
To return to the actual theme of this thread  :D - Britomart has just observed what appeared to be a whirlwind, after lunch.

http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ADM53-36254/ADM%2053-36254-006_1.jpg
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: AvastMH on 10 September 2012, 15:24:08
Eek! Exciting, but scarey..glad they didn't get caught up in it.  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Helen J on 10 September 2012, 15:30:35
They were heading to somewhere not far away, but (I think) before the place they saw the whirlwind.  I bet they were glad!
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Helen J on 07 October 2012, 13:47:27
Given all the recent news about receding ice, here's an interesting record of ice in June 1915 around Iceland:

Observed field ice stretching from Eyra Fiord to Grimsey Island, Groves Bank, to Lat 67 9 W, Long 16 27 W thence northwards as far as could be seen from masthead.

It took them 4 and a half hours to steam round the field ice.

http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ADM53-33654/ADM53-33654-040_1.jpg
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 07 October 2012, 16:31:21
Bear, summer 1884, Northbound, reported sighting bergs and flows most days as well as getting locked up for days in the ice, New Foundland and west coast of Greenland. Temps down to 16F air and 29F sea.
Very few reported on the southbound leg a few months later.
Maybe it was a hot summer, cannot remember temps southbound in the same area.
When can we go back to see and edit?
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 11 October 2012, 16:30:19
0c and sleet. Not bad for early October (spring here, down under).
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Dean on 11 October 2012, 16:44:47
0c and sleet. Not bad for early October (spring here, down under).

3c and cold rain here. It's fall in western New York State.
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 11 October 2012, 16:56:19
Afternoon Dean.
I guess somebody has to see the elephant.
What happened to global warming?  ;D
I'ts snow now, pity the grounds wet.
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Dean on 12 October 2012, 17:51:18
Afternoon Dean.
I guess somebody has to see the elephant.
What happened to global warming?  ;D
I'ts snow now, pity the grounds wet.

I think we saw it this summer - the past few months. Record heat and drought in the USA.  Lake Ontario is 11" (28cm) below the 100 year average and still dropping. We pulled boats the earliest ever since many were stuck in slips or couldn't get to the lake. 'Rumor' has it that this winter will be much like last - warmer temps and little snow!

I do snow/rain measurement for the National Weather Service - one of their measuring stations is in my back yard. We are WAY below average. I'll send you copies of my 'Water Year Report' Oct - Oct as soon as it's compiled.
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 12 October 2012, 18:42:48
The locals say the weather around Bowral is getting back to normal, that is, a real winter not a warmish one.
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: AvastMH on 08 November 2012, 03:55:30
Unusual number of meteors - see 8 pm to midnight.  Don't get too excited - it is August 13th (1884) after all!!

http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USCS%20Patterson/Book%201/IMG_4787_1.jpg

Anyone able to pass this back to the astronomers in case they might use it please? - sadly no numbers attached to comment, but it must have been a reasonably decent Perseid shower.  I bet it looked beautiful.
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Caro on 08 November 2012, 11:39:28
I'll report this on the Galaxy Zoo forum. Thanks Joan.
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Clewi on 21 December 2012, 02:59:45
Strange meteor sighting by USS Jeanette on 25.9.1879:
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Com & until 4 A.m.   Moderate breezes from S.S.W. and snowing at times. At 1.50 a meteor was seen about 1/4 of a mile from the ship in the S.W. quarter of the horizon. It was very brilliant and remained in sight for about 7 minutes appearing like a ball of fire. At 3 the weather cleared. There was a fine aurora during watch.   William Dunbar

http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Jeannette/vol001of004/vol001_120_1.jpg


According to weather report for 1 am and 2 am sky was overcast.  ??? Could be an impact.
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Jeannette/vol001of004/vol001_120_0.jpg]


Reported phenomena so far:

02.09.1879 [AM]
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At 2.30 there was a moderate display of the aurora borealis which lasted about 10 minutes and was under the Constellation Cassiopeia.
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Jeannette/vol001of004/vol001_097_1.jpg
21.09.1879
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8 PM to Mid There was a fine aurora during the latter part of watch.
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Jeannette/vol001of004/vol001_116_1.jpg
24.09.1879
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At 1.40 [AM] there was a splendid aurora.
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Jeannette/vol001of004/vol001_119_1.jpg
25.09.1879 [AM]
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Com & until 4 A.m.  There was a fine aurora during watch.
[PM]
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At 9 a brilliant aurora Extended in an arch about 60o in height from E.S.E. to N.N.E. (true).
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Jeannette/vol001of004/vol001_120_1.jpg
27.09.1879
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Fine display of northern lights from 2 to 3 [AM] in different colored waves.
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Jeannette/vol001of004/vol001_122_1.jpg
11.10.1879
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At 12 [Midnight] there was a moderate display of the aurora.
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Jeannette/vol001of004/vol001_137_1.jpg
15.10.1879
Quote
Brilliant aurora about 1 [AM]
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Jeannette/vol001of004/vol001_141_1.jpg
21.10.1879
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Com & until 4 AM Faint display of aurora last hour.
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22.10.1879
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From 8.30 to 11 [PM] there was a fine display of the aurora in an arch Extending from E by N (true) to WNW (true) with top of the arch being about 70o above horizon.
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23.10.1879
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From 8 until 9.30 there were three mock moons and a hazy arch about the moon.
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24.10.1879
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Display of aurora at 3 [AM] and a fresh breeze from NW by N
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29.12.1879 [AM]
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Frost dust in the air. Moondog on horizon to SW (mag).
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02.11.1879
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Aurora occasionally visible from 2 to 3[AM].
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10.11.1879 [PM]
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Very brilliant aurora.
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Jeannette/vol001of004/vol001_167_1.jpg
11.11.1879
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Brilliant aurora until 1.30 [AM]
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12.11.1879 [PM]
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Faint aurora and bright starlight from 10 to 12.
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Jeannette/vol001of004/vol001_169_1.jpg
13.11.1879
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Faint aurora at 6.[AM]
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Jeannette/vol001of004/vol001_170_1.jpg
14.11.1879
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Faint aurora from 8 to 12 [PM]
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Jeannette/vol001of004/vol001_171_1.jpg
15.11.1879 [PM]
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Faint aurora
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17.11.1879 [PM]
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Bright and clear from 8 to 12. Brilliant aurora.
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21.11.1879 [PM]
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Bright moon and stars. Halo about moon. Display of aurora between 10 and 12.
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22.11.1879 [AM]
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Auroral arch to the N~
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23.11.1879 [PM]
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Auroral arch from 10 to 12
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25.11.1879 [PM]
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Auroral arch between 10 and 12. Brilliant reflections under the moon.
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01.12.1879 [PM]
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Occasional auroral gleams to N~
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02.12.1879 [PM]
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Weather misty until 7 when it cleared off. Very beautifull night. Moon and stars very bright. Lunar haloes showing prismatic colors at times. Lunar rainbow in the S at 10.30. Auroral arch (34o in altitude) from NNE to NNW (mag) which at 11.50 flashed into a magnificient auroral curtain.
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03.12.1879 [PM]
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Auroral arch and streamers during the evening.
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05.12.1879 [PM]
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Bright starlight. Auroral display during the evening and two meteors fell.
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06.12.1879 [AM]
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Auroral displays frequent
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Auroral display during evening.
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07.12.1879 [PM]
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Very brilliant aurora.
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Jeannette/vol001of004/vol001_194_1.jpg
08.12.1879 [AM]
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Very brilliant aurora
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Jeannette/vol001of004/vol001_195_1.jpg
09.12.1879 [PM]
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Slight auroral displays
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Jeannette/vol001of004/vol001_196_1.jpg
11.12.1879 [PM]
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Very brilliant auroral arch to N~ having wave like motions.
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Jeannette/vol001of004/vol001_198_1.jpg
12.12.1879 [PM]
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Faint auroral gleams.
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Jeannette/vol001of004/vol001_199_1.jpg
14.12.1879 [PM]
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Faint auroral arch and gleams.
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Jeannette/vol001of004/vol001_201_1.jpg
16.12.1879 [AM]
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Faint auroral arch to the Northward.
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Auroral display
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17.12.1879 [AM]
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Bright starlight and brilliant auroral arch to S~ of zenith.
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Jeannette/vol001of004/vol001_204_1.jpg
18.12.1879 [AM]
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Auroral gleams at times.
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19.12.1879 [AM]
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Bright starlight and auroral arches.
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22.12.1879 [PM]
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Bright moonlight and starlight. At 4.30 PM an Auroral arch of streamers in N by E magnetic. The crown of the arch having an altitude of 20o. At 7 faint aurora to Northward. At 8 brilliant Aurora in an arch from E to W ( ~ magnetic) passing through zenith, with bright bows shooting up occasionally from Northern horizon. At 9 double Auroral arch from W to NE x E (~ magnetic), crown at North (magnetic) 60o in altitude. Faint auroral patches under moon S x E (mag.) At 11 auroral Streamers beginning at NW (mag) arching to 30o altitude at N (mag) and returning at NNE (mag) in an ellipse to begining.
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23.12.1879 [AM]
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Very faint auroral arch through zenith at 1 am from W to NE x E (mag). At 2 auroral Streamers in NW. Auroral arches until 4. At 3 an auroral ellipse from W to E. Centering in zenith having converging rays with brilliant colors. Moonlight and starlight. Moon at 7 much distorted by refractions.
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27.12.1879 [AM]
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At 5 a light halo was observed around the moon showing prismatic colors. At 6 a lunar halo circle. At 7 a faint Aurora to NE. At 8 a halo.
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28.12.1879 [AM]
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From 5.10 to 5.25 there was an eclipse of a small portion of the moons lower limb.
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Bright moonlight with reflections from ice beneath. Lunar circle at 3 and a column of light under the moon. Lunar circles observed during Evening.
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30.12.1879 [AM]
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At 3 am an Auroral curtain from W to NNW, ~ in center of same. At 4 a faint Auroral arch.
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31.12.1879 [PM]
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Faint auroral arch to NW from 11 PM. Lunar circles.
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Jeannette/vol001of004/vol001_218_1.jpg
1.1.1880 [AM]
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At 3  a lunar circle was observed showing faint mock moons on the ~ ~ of its circumference, the lower mock moon being very bright. A very faint curved line passed through real and lateral mockmoons toward horizon.
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At 9 a blood red halo around the moon. At midnight an auroral arch to North extending from NE to NW and having a curtain from its eastern ends.
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Auroral arch 70o in alt. South of zenith, in N x NW from 1 to 4, and Lunar halo at 3.
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Auroral arch at 11, crown passing through Polaris, and having radial~ from Easterly end. Arch extending from NW to NE.
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3.1.1880 [AM]
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An auroral arch 20o in altitude was observed at 1 in N and NW. A faint Aurora 15o in altitude  N at 2 and faint Auroral Streamers in NNE at 4.
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At 6 PM faint auroral gleam in N. at 7 the same to NNW. at 9 an Auroral arch to N which became very brilliant at 10, and at 11 became a faint ~ arch 10o in altitude.
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4.1.1880 [AM]
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At 12.30 a meteor, very brilliant, fell in a curved line from S to SE, and in exploding showed red, yellow and blue color like a rocket.
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5.1.1880 [AM]
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At 3 am auroral arch 40o in alt. in N extending from W by N to NE.
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At 10.30 remarkable meteoric light to Southward illuminating the floe with a brilliant green flash.
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Faint auroral arches were observed until 6 am, a meteor in S~ falling to SW, and another meteor in East falling to SE. Moon just above SE horizon at 7. During forenoon land was seen between SSE and SSW (magnetic) and recognized as the same land as was sighted on October 29th. & Seq. The land was much raised by refraction, and an inverted image presented over the real one. The outline of the real land much obscured. Appearances of land in direction of the bearing of Herald Island.
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At 2 PM the land outline was much plainer. A meteor was observed, at 4 and another at 9. Auroral arches from 5 to Midnight. The remarkable ones being a bright curtain at 9 forming an ellipse; two arches at 11. Starting from a point in NE and ending respectively in NNW and W. Coronas being 20o and 90o in altitude; and a four arch fan at midnight from the same point. Coronas 30o, 60o, 75o and 90o in Altitude, ~ at NNW, NW, NW x W and WNW. Twilight arch 10o at 4 PM.

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7.1.1880 [AM]
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At 1 auroral arches, 25o N and 35o, ~ diffused light ~; at 2 auroral arch through 80o N, from NE to SW x W; also arch 15o in S; at 3 auroral arches in N and S ~, Streamers and curved lines around the horizon with their center in zenith; at 4 auroral arch in S 25o, extending from NE to W, fading upward; at 5 aurora in all parts of the heavens, but brightest at S, continuing until 8 at which time very faint.
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Weather continues clear and pleasant, with haze around horizon much of the time. Faint auroral gleam in SW at 5; at 10 auroral arch to N; the same continuing at 11 and accompanied by another, ~ ~, the one 20o in alt the other passing through zenith. Under the lower one depended a black curtain through which stars could not be seen. The arches extended  from NW to NE and were dim at midnight.
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8.1.1880 [AM]
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Auroral arches with diffused light until 7 am.
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11.1.1880 [AM]
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A very faint auroral arch in N by W. alt. extending through zenith.
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12.1.1880 [AM]
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Faint auroral glow to N x NW at 1.
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13.1.1880 [AM]
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At 1 auroral arch to W~ passing through zenith and having a curved curtain 15o in alt in the North with radiations toward the zenith. At 2 auroral arch 25o in alt from NW to NE and a faint arch from East to zenith. At 4 faint auroral arch from E to W through zenith. At 6 faint diffused aurora.
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Faint auroras in N at 5 and 6. At 10.30 auroral arch 15o in alt to North from NE to NW; at 11 the same arch had a curtain depending from its eastern end to the horizon; and at midnight the same arch consisted of irregular motionless bands of white light, ~ the light thrown by the moon on Stratus clouds.
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14.1.1880 [AM]
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At 1 an auroral arch 30o in alt from NE to NW; and also a faint arch through the zenith; at 1.30 the two arches formed one arch through zenith from NE to W and quickly brightened from a ~ ~ into a curtain ~, and was ~ by an ~ movement with upward radiations. At 2 one arch to N~; 15o in alt and one to S~ 40o in alt with pale diffused light between; Southern arch very faint. Northern arch broken by dark Segment beneath ~ upward.
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At 9 an Auroral arch to N 15o alt from NE to NW, which at 10 had become an irregular broken curtain. At 11 two arches from NE to NW one 15o in alt the other 25o, the lower one having fitful radiations toward the upper one. Suddenly the two became one brilliant arch 20o in alt which at midnight had faded and became broken.
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The day opened very hazy, with Starlight and faint Aurora to N~. Fresh Westerly breezes with falling barometer and steady ~ temperatures. At 2.30 Sky cleared. At 2 a faint auroral arch, striped, passing through zenith; also two curtain arches in North, 10o and 20o in alt respectively with irregular upward radiations, extending from NE to West;  at 3 faint auroral arch 5o S of zenith, and a broken Auroral curtain to N 20o in alt, with diffused light between them; at 4 a striped arch through zenith from NE to W, and a faint Curtain arch to N with diffused light between them; and at 5 brilliant auroral arch from E to W through zenith.
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Faint aurora in NE at 10, springing to NW with streamers. At 11 auroral arch 15o in alt to N~ growing faint; and at 12 this same arch was broken but light with dark curtain underneath and streamers downward from Western End.
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At 1 auroral arch through zenith with radiating centre, also an arch to the N 20o in alt with elliptical cloud-like forms and undulating movement extending from NE to W x N. At 2 an Auroral form in N with broken Semi-circle from E to W ~ faint diffused light; and at 2.20 an arch passing through zenith from E to W, simultaneously with ice movement.
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Several shocks to ship up to 7 o'clock from ice movement and pressure, but she retained the same heel, 2 1/2o to Starboard. At 10 an Auroral Arch was visible to the SSW. At 11 there were four auroral arches: one 15o in altitude with its crown in the N, one 25o in alt with its crown in NW x W, one 15o in altitude with its arch in SW, and one 10o in alt with its crown in South. The amount of sky included by these arches was from NE around by N to SE. The beginning of the Second arch was alongside of its ending of the first, and so on. From these intermediate points Streamers ran upward toward the zenith. At midnight there were three arches to the S~, 12o, 15o and 18o respectively in Altitude, and extending from ESE to WNW. Through the middle one there were continued pulsations of light from E to W, and at intervals of a few seconds only, globes of light showing prismatic colors (red and green principally) rolled across from E to W against the wind and ended at about 5o from the horizon. Three of these globes in Transit were in sight at one time. This display lasted five minutes when the pulsations of light recommenced. Two arches were also visible in the N 15o and 20o in alt respectively with bands of light crossing them horizontally like chords. Northern and Southern Sets both originated in the ESE and ended in WNW while from both Sets there radiated faint arches through zenith.
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Jeannette/vol002of004/vol002_015_1.jpg






Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: AvastMH on 21 December 2012, 03:14:33
Hi Clewi, it's probably worth asking someone to relay that info about the barometer move and the limits of the thermometer to our scientists. There was a big list about barometer moves as she started her journey..but no harm in confirming this one as well.

And there's me just saying that she's a scientific exped etc - dear oh dear. You probably didn't see the start of the log where they had to say that they'd put a brilliant barometer into the ship - so nice that it went into the Captain's quarters. So they couldn't get to it every hour, so they tagged an ordinary barometer onto the ship - then had to move it a couple of times.  ::) ::) ::)

Whoops - should have put this in the other thread - sorry!
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Randi on 21 December 2012, 03:55:12
Just copy the text to the correct thread and then remove it from here ;)
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 22 December 2012, 23:54:15
Perseid Meteor Shower observed on Patterson, 13th Aug. 1884 on voyage from Hampton Roads, VA, to Madeira.

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Moon rose at 10.45.  Unusual number of meteors visible.
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Helen J on 23 December 2012, 13:32:15
HMS Andes, 13 January 1916, on northern patrol:

2.05am: observed meteoric shower brg NExN.  Effect extremely vivid.

http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ADM53-33654/ADM53-33654-164_1.jpg
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Craig on 25 December 2012, 06:31:49
Beautiful sunset at 8. 

http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Jeannette/vol001of004/vol001_096_1.jpg
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 25 December 2012, 11:24:35
Nice.

And if see any Christmas things today in our skies (big stars? reindeer?) wave hi! to them for me.  :)
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: AvastMH on 27 December 2012, 03:22:41
Any teeny mention of ice I've put into the system...just so happens that I had more mentions of ice-cream than of sea ice so far. 
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Craig on 27 December 2012, 06:06:15
When you get to September in the Jeannette you will have your share, Joan.  :D
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: AvastMH on 27 December 2012, 06:12:47
Ive got my thermals on just thinking about it Craig!
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Craig on 31 December 2012, 10:18:51
I am looking forward to seeing this, Clewi!

I am wondering about the Jeannette's constant surface water temperature recorded at 32 F for several months.   Looking ahead from where I am at Oct 11,  Nov. 27 is the first date where I saw a temp below freezing (although I didn't check every day) and then it seems they stopped recording it not long after that.  I wonder if they had been just assuming the sea temp was 32 and didn't know that it could super-cool? On Nov. 27 they show a 27 F and then there are a few readings of 30.5 the next day. They have been sounding all along so it isn't a question of laziness.
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Clewi on 31 December 2012, 11:07:14
Constant 32 F is plausible, it was so common that I have programmed a hotkey to enter it with a single key stroke. But I have noticed the same thing - they've stopped recording it in the moment when the temp changed a bit. Only the dry temp is still recorded. No more water temp and the baro calibrated for 32 F as well. Wait and see, I'd say.

Besides, more meteors on Dec 5th 1879.
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Randi on 31 December 2012, 11:41:32
... I have programmed a hotkey to enter it with a single key stroke....

Are you using Windows 7?
If so, how do you do it?
Thanks!
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Clewi on 31 December 2012, 12:06:03
I have a Logitech G15 keyboard, it has a block of extra keys that can be programmed with the driver software. I have programmed the "~", "." and the quotation marks and the Windows magnifying glass to the keys next to the Tab-key. I can even set up recurring phrases like "Beset in the Pack" or so. Typing in the OW interface is much faster now without changing the position of my hands. The Win7 hotkeys can't be changed AFAIK. The G15 is a workaround. 
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Randi on 31 December 2012, 13:10:11
No luck then, but with Firefox the drop-downs do help a lot :)
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Randi on 23 January 2013, 03:25:52
Rodgers: http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/USS%20Rodgers/Rodgers_1881/b001of010_0152_1.jpg
...
Also same day 24 Oct 1881
Commences & until 4 AM. At 3.20 saw a very vivid Meteor in the N'd & Wd.
Whilst looking for which meteor it may have been I came across this.
http://www.phenomena.org.uk (http://www.phenomena.org.uk)
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: AvastMH on 23 January 2013, 03:51:45
INteresting! ;D
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Maikel on 27 January 2013, 10:36:59
U.S.S. Yorktown

19-12-1889, 8 p.m. to midnight: Several brilliant meteors observed about 10:40 in NW sky.

http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Yorktown/vol002of040_jpg_clean/vol002of040_194_1.jpg (http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Yorktown/vol002of040_jpg_clean/vol002of040_194_1.jpg)

20-12-1889, 8 p.m. to midnight: Numerous meteors from north.

http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Yorktown/vol002of040_jpg_clean/vol002of040_195_1.jpg (http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Yorktown/vol002of040_jpg_clean/vol002of040_195_1.jpg)

They are sailing near the Azores.
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Dean on 06 February 2013, 08:39:08
A friend sent this video of a full moon rise in New Zealand.

Beautiful!!


MOON rise last week in Wellington, NZ.
http://www.australiangeographic.com.au/journal/video-full-moon-rise-over-nz.htm#.UQxLeCi19Hd.email
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Kathy on 06 February 2013, 09:55:14
 :o :o
speechless!
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: AvastMH on 06 February 2013, 14:09:35
I'll second that Kathy....quite breathtaking. Thanks Dean
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Helen J on 06 February 2013, 16:33:59
That is stunningly beautiful - thanks Dean.
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: jil on 07 February 2013, 06:10:35
Wonderful!
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Dean on 09 February 2013, 10:26:12
Friend sent this about the Australian fires!  I didn't know fires could do this!!! :o

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2204468/Pictured-The-frightening-FIRE-tornado-whirled-Australian-outback-40-MINUTES.html
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: AvastMH on 09 February 2013, 10:50:34
 :o :o :o :o :o  oh my!  There's no smiley for fainted-at-the-sight-of ....
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 09 February 2013, 11:01:51
I have never heard of anything like this - I thought the fire had to be going already to generate one!!  Completely Awesome and terrifying!
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Dean on 09 February 2013, 13:16:22
And some writings about the snow levels and the storm in the Eastern US

http://entertainment.verizon.com/news/read.php?ps=1011&rip_id=%3CDA4AJ51O0%40news.ap.org%3E&_LT=MNEW_LARSDCCLM_UNEWS
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 09 February 2013, 15:00:08
I gotta say, they have worse blizzards than anything that every hit Chicago.  I think its the ocean energy coming from those Northeasters.  Those cities will be shut down for at least a week.

Kathy, am I right that this one is mostly missing you where you are?
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 14 February 2013, 03:09:53
Lunar rainbow.
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Concord/vol012of040/vol012of040_120_1.jpg (http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Concord/vol012of040/vol012of040_120_1.jpg)
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: AvastMH on 14 February 2013, 03:24:28
Never crossed my mind that you could get one of those...wow!
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: okopho on 14 February 2013, 15:18:45
Here's another mention of a lunar rainbow, from the Jeanette:

https://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Jeannette/vol001of004/vol001_189_1.jpg

It also mentions "lunar haloes showing prismatic colors" - which I presume means coronae from moonlight diffracted by ice crystals in the clouds.

Oddly, though, the accompanying weather reports record some haze and fog, but no rain:

https://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Jeannette/vol001of004/vol001_189_0.jpg

So perhaps a "lunar fogbow" might have been a more accurate description? :-\
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 14 February 2013, 15:38:34
The only time I've seen a ring around the moon, the winter night sky was clear but very hazy, the moon was unobstructed but most of the stars didn't get through.
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Clewi on 14 February 2013, 16:13:20
There are countless reports about lunar halos, sun dogs, moon dogs, moon bows, and whatever, in the Jeannette log.

http://forum.oldweather.org/index.php?topic=384.msg58069#msg58069 (http://forum.oldweather.org/index.php?topic=384.msg58069#msg58069)

I've transcribed all of them, but didn't post them here any more after a while. It would have bordered on spamming the forum!
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: AvastMH on 14 February 2013, 16:21:33
 ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 14 February 2013, 16:34:56
They do see a lot of them that far north. ;D
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: okopho on 14 February 2013, 16:54:40
There are countless reports about lunar halos, sun dogs, moon dogs, moon bows, and whatever, in the Jeannette log.

http://forum.oldweather.org/index.php?topic=384.msg58069#msg58069 (http://forum.oldweather.org/index.php?topic=384.msg58069#msg58069)

Very true. But the only mention of a "lunar rainbow" in your list of examples is from the same log as mine, so I think they are much rarer than the other phenomena.

Fogbows, halos, coronae and the various dogs aren't true lunar rainbows (aka moonbows), so they don't count. :P
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Clewi on 14 February 2013, 16:56:10
The list ends at the point where the fun really starts, all winter long!
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: okopho on 14 February 2013, 17:20:51
The list ends at the point where the fun really starts, all winter long!

December isn't Winter in the Arctic?

The Jeanette has been "Beset in the Pack" for almost all the time I've been transcribing, so I'm already quite familiar with the seemingly endless fascination with aurorae, meteors, halos and the like. :)

I don't remember seeing any mention of lunar rainbows before, though. I will keep an eye out for more examples, and see if they become more common (hard to see why they should though).
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Randi on 14 February 2013, 17:21:56
http://www.atoptics.co.uk/rainbows/moonbow.htm

Quote
Moonbows are most easily viewed when the moon is near to full (when it is brightest). For true moonbows, other than those produced by waterfalls or sprays, the moon must be low in the sky (less than 42 degrees and preferably lower) and the sky must be very dark. Since the sky is still light on a rising full moon, this means they can only be observed 2 to 3 hours before sunrise, a time with few observers. And, of course, there must be rain falling opposite the moon. This combination of requirements makes moonbows much rarer than rainbows produced by the sun. Moonbows may also be visible when rain falls during full moonrise at extreme latitudes during the winter months, when the prevalence of the hours of darkness give more opportunity for the phenomenon to be observed.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moonbow

http://www.hongkiat.com/blog/moonbow-lunar-rainbow-photography/
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Clewi on 14 February 2013, 17:32:38
December is autumn. For the most part, at least. Besides, I've transcribed them, I didn't count them. But there are more. Although, from January 19th onwards they have more important things to worry about anyway.

Meanwhile:

http://www.lovethesepics.com/2011/08/rare-rainbows-in-the-dark-24-pics/ (http://www.lovethesepics.com/2011/08/rare-rainbows-in-the-dark-24-pics/)
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: okopho on 14 February 2013, 17:47:18
Quote
Moonbows may also be visible when rain falls during full moonrise at extreme latitudes during the winter months, when the prevalence of the hours of darkness give more opportunity for the phenomenon to be observed.

Thanks - so I will need to look out for the combination of rain and a full moon. It looks like the earlier example I gave isn't really a lunar rainbow, though (no rain).
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Randi on 14 February 2013, 17:49:47
Perhaps mist?

What I meant was if there was no rain perhaps there was enough mist to produce the moonbow? Just (wild) speculation ;)
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 14 February 2013, 18:52:36
Last time I visited a big waterfall, the ground-level mistbows it produced were called rainbows by all us tourists.  As long as they show the 7 standard colors, I can't see anyone outside climatology changing that name - everyone listening would interupt you to ask what you meant.  ;)
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: okopho on 14 February 2013, 20:23:20
Last time I visited a big waterfall, the ground-level mistbows it produced were called rainbows by all us tourists.  As long as they show the 7 standard colors, I can't see anyone outside climatology changing that name - everyone listening would interupt you to ask what you meant.  ;)

Yes, my sister once took a really beautiful picture of a waterfall rainbow that I still have somewhere (but can't now find). I would certainly have called that a rainbow. But I also remember often seeing misty bows on early-morning fishing trips that were almost completely colourless. I have no idea what I called them at the time (if anything) - but "fog bow" seems appropriate to me somehow.

I've also seen lunar halos/bows that were also mostly colourless - but I've never been lucky enough to see one with a discernable rainbow of colours. Perhaps I should make a trip to the Winter Arctic to improve my chances. :-\

Fogbow:

(https://farm7.staticflickr.com/6131/5992849291_76c8885c13_z.jpg)
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 14 February 2013, 21:40:11
This whole description of phenomena is really exotic.  We're lucky to see what they wrote.
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Randi on 15 February 2013, 02:41:45
Last time I visited a big waterfall, the ground-level mistbows it produced were called rainbows by all us tourists.  As long as they show the 7 standard colors, I can't see anyone outside climatology changing that name - everyone listening would interupt you to ask what you meant.  ;)

They probably WERE rainbows - caused by the sun - especially if they showed colors. I never meant to imply otherwise.
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: AvastMH on 15 February 2013, 03:18:08
December is autumn. For the most part, at least. Besides, I've transcribed them, I didn't count them. But there are more. Although, from January 19th onwards they have more important things to worry about anyway.

Meanwhile:

http://www.lovethesepics.com/2011/08/rare-rainbows-in-the-dark-24-pics/ (http://www.lovethesepics.com/2011/08/rare-rainbows-in-the-dark-24-pics/)


Lovely - and exciting - I've never seen moonbows before - just those ice halos that are relatively common. Thank you.
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Randi on 15 February 2013, 06:46:51
December is autumn. For the most part, at least. Besides, I've transcribed them, I didn't count them. But there are more. Although, from January 19th onwards they have more important things to worry about anyway.

Meanwhile:

http://www.lovethesepics.com/2011/08/rare-rainbows-in-the-dark-24-pics/ (http://www.lovethesepics.com/2011/08/rare-rainbows-in-the-dark-24-pics/)

Spectacular!
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Clewi on 15 February 2013, 08:55:11
Phil Plait often posts awesome photos of these very phenomena reported here. For instance, a moonbow with Milky Way and a meteor as a backdrop:

https://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2012/10/21/moonbow-milky-way-meteor/  (https://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2012/10/21/moonbow-milky-way-meteor/)

Scroll down a bit for a spectacular video on moonbows.

Or a moonbow with aurora:

https://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2011/11/28/water-falls-moonbow-shines-aurorae-glow/ (https://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2011/11/28/water-falls-moonbow-shines-aurorae-glow/)

Or this aurora:

https://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2012/10/29/unfurled-aurora/ (https://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2012/10/29/unfurled-aurora/)

Parhelic circles:

https://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2012/11/01/look-up-in-the-sky-its-its-its-an-amazing-optics-display/ (https://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2012/11/01/look-up-in-the-sky-its-its-its-an-amazing-optics-display/)

If you haven't done so already you should visit his blog regularly, or you may miss some awesome stuff. It's now on Slate.com:

http://www.slate.com/blogs/bad_astronomy.html (http://www.slate.com/blogs/bad_astronomy.html)
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: studentforever on 15 February 2013, 10:53:23
Stunning pics|!!
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: AvastMH on 15 February 2013, 13:08:22
OH MY!!!  That meteor in Russia was really something - incredible intensity of light and the sonic boom was pretty scarey.  ??? :P
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Clewi on 15 February 2013, 14:01:48
OH MY!!!  That meteor in Russia was really something - incredible intensity of light and the sonic boom was pretty scarey.  ??? :P

Yeah, but I think there has never been a bolide that was so well documented like this one! Dashcams, smartphones, cctv, etc all over the place. It was even filmed from above by a satellite. A great opportunity for science! However, some people were severely injured.
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: AvastMH on 15 February 2013, 14:05:18
You're right Clewi - the eye of science was upon it  - a fantastic chance indeed.
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Clewi on 15 February 2013, 20:23:22
Most recent results imply that it wasn't just the sonic boom, but an actual explosion of several hundred kilotons! And that it was the second largest event after Tunguska.  :o :o :o

Edit: mixed up units.  ::)
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 15 February 2013, 22:38:53
They've found three impact crators of pieces of it, according to Wiki.

Quote
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_meteoroid_event_in_2013
Three impact sites were found. Two were in an area near Chebarkul Lake and the other is some 80 kilometres (50 miles) further to the northwest, near the town of Zlatoust. One of the fragments that struck near Chebarkul left a crater with a diameter of six metres (20 feet). A hole was found by a local fisherman on the surface of the frozen Chebarkul Lake, probably a result of the impact.[13] In Kazakhstan, emergency officials said they were looking for two possible unidentified objects that may have landed in Aktobe Province, Kazakhstan, adjacent to the affected Russian regions.[26] The energy released was big enough to register as a seismic event.[27]

A really scary event.  And poor Russia seems to collect the worst ones.  I do like the name of the hoped-for spacecraft that would test if a meteor can be successfully exploded in space: Don Quijote (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Don_Quijote_(spacecraft))
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: AvastMH on 16 February 2013, 05:06:18
Well if painting the asteroid a different colour helps, they could always fill Don Quixote with paint (tinting at windmills rather than tilting at windmills). It could make a fair splat on impact.
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: AvastMH on 02 March 2013, 13:20:27
Sailing in bug soup: the Patterson a few days south of Rio (October 1884):
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USCS%20Patterson/Book%201/IMG_4866_1.jpg 

(Merid to 4 Pm) At beginning of watch sea water changed color, indicating on soundings. At 3.20 sailed through discolored patch of sea water. Stopped engine, obtained soundings in 43 fathoms (blue mud) & procured specimen of "sea sawdust". At 3.30 went ahead. Discoloration of water caused by presence of Trichodesmium erythraeum http://genome.jgi-psf.org/trier/trier.home.html

  (http://genome.jgi-psf.org/trier/tricho_med.jpg)   
Marine filamentous cyanobacteria of the genus Trichodesmium play a major role in the tropical and subtropical oceans both as primary producers and suppliers of "new" nitrogen through their ability to fix atmospheric dinitrogen (N2) (Capone et al., 1997). They are simple undifferentiated filamentous forms that divide in a single plane. They may occur as single filaments but more commonly as macroscopic colonial aggregates (0.3-2mm) containing many filaments. The colonies vary in color from yellowish-brown to deep red because they contain phycoerythrin as their primary light harvesting pigment. Trichodesmium spp. are planktonic and owe their buoyancy to the possession of gas vacuoles. The genus currently contains five species characterized from natural populations (Carpenter et al., 1993; Janson et al., 1995). The species are distinguished by cell and colony morphology, pigmentation and buoyancy.
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Randi on 06 March 2013, 10:57:05
A comment from Kevin:
Quote
Any information about sea ice is of serious interest for several reasons. We are working on an Arctic sea ice reanalysis for the period 1850-on based on the Applied Physic Lab's latest sea ice forecast model. It will be forced by specific large-scale atmospheric fields (I.e. barometric pressure) from global reanalyses. A crucial issue is - will the result have an appropriate characterization of the real Arctic sea ice environment - especially thickness? Since we do not have anything remotely close to a comprehensive long period sea ice data set like ICOADS we must build one that is good enough for validation/verification if the experiment is to be useful. And here is an essential question we hope to answer: why is the Arctic sea ice disappearing at a rate 2 or more times faster than the latest climate models project? Sea ice thickness and the rate of ice advection out of the Arctic via the trans-polar drift are also tied together. We know that Nansen's ship the Fram drifted at a rate far slower than what is typical today (suggesting much less sea ice export back in the day). Which brings us back to JEANNETTE - certainly one of the very few instrumented drifters available from which we may glean the necessary data from presumably earlier than current changes commenced. Or is there more decadal-scale variability here than anticipated?
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Craig on 06 March 2013, 20:34:59
I've even been recording when DeLong has rum on the rocks.  ;D
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Randi on 07 March 2013, 02:35:28
 :P ;D
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 07 March 2013, 03:41:08
Last time I visited a big waterfall, the ground-level mistbows it produced were called rainbows by all us tourists.  As long as they show the 7 standard colors, I can't see anyone outside climatology changing that name - everyone listening would interupt you to ask what you meant.  ;)

Yes, my sister once took a really beautiful picture of a waterfall rainbow that I still have somewhere (but can't now find). I would certainly have called that a rainbow. But I also remember often seeing misty bows on early-morning fishing trips that were almost completely colourless. I have no idea what I called them at the time (if anything) - but "fog bow" seems appropriate to me somehow.

I've also seen lunar halos/bows that were also mostly colourless - but I've never been lucky enough to see one with a discernable rainbow of colours. Perhaps I should make a trip to the Winter Arctic to improve my chances. :-\

Fogbow:

(https://farm7.staticflickr.com/6131/5992849291_76c8885c13_z.jpg)

Join me in Antartica this November if you want. Not quite Winter but close.
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: AvastMH on 07 March 2013, 08:45:06
which suitcase will I be invited to pack myself into please?  ;D
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Maikel on 16 March 2013, 04:05:53
U.S.S. Yorktown, sailing along the Tunisian coast in the Mediterranean.

02-05-1890 Midnight until 4 a.m.: Very bright meteor to the Wd at 2.30.
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Yorktown/vol003of040_cr2_to_jpg/vol003of040_132_1.jpg (http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Yorktown/vol003of040_cr2_to_jpg/vol003of040_132_1.jpg)
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: AvastMH on 16 March 2013, 04:21:43
FOREST CITY METEORITE: Late in the afternoon of May 2, 1890, a meteorite sounding like heavy cannon fire, throwing off sparks, and trailing black smoke exploded about 11 miles northwest of Forest City in Winnebago County. The fall was observed from Sioux City to Grinnell and Mason City, and as far away as Chamberlain, South Dakota, 300 miles from the Winnebago County impact site. Rock fragments showered an eight square-mile area, and local residents reported a smell of sulphur. As with Iowa's other meteorites, fragments now are widely distributed in museums and private collections.

Given the timing, and the size of the Iowa 'bomb', I wonder if these are not the same celestial beastie?  It's a big ask..or it could be another big meteor from a small shower?
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 16 March 2013, 08:53:07
Iowa clocks are 7 hours earlier than Tunisian clocks.  2pm in Iowa on May 2nd is 9pm May 2nd in Tunisia - a full 17 to 21 hours after the meteor was logged.

But it is interesting that Earth was being that heavily bombarded that day.  It is the time of the Aquarid meteor shower.

Quote
http://meteorshowersonline.com/eta_aquarids.html
The Eta Aquarid meteor shower is the first of two showers that occur each year as a result of Earth passing through dust released by Halley's Comet, with the second being the Orionids. The point from where the Eta Aquarid meteors appear to radiate is located within the constellation Aquarius.
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: AvastMH on 16 March 2013, 09:05:27
Hahahaha!  ;D I know there are times when I don't know one day from the next - but clearly I was 'out' with that one! Perhaps it was a very good year for Aquarids then... ;D
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Dean on 21 March 2013, 16:13:34
For those interested in Sea Ice ... this from a friend was MOST interesting!

 http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=Z0qGvC3vqaA
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Dean on 22 March 2013, 23:14:30
More Ice Spectacular!! :o

http://www.youtube.com/embed/hC3VTgIPoGU?rel=0
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Maikel on 23 March 2013, 03:28:46
U.S.S. Yorktown making passage from Porto Grande, St. Vincent, to New York.

15-06-1890 Mid. to 4 a.m.
A number of brilliant meteors passed across south western sky.

http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Yorktown/vol003of040_cr2_to_jpg/vol003of040_180_1.jpg (http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Yorktown/vol003of040_cr2_to_jpg/vol003of040_180_1.jpg)
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Maikel on 06 April 2013, 04:55:54
U.S.S. Yorktown, moored in New York.

06-08-1890 - 8 p.m. to mid.
Observed a very large meteor to the NE.

http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Yorktown/vol004of040_cr2_to_jpg/vol004of040_048_1.jpg (http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Yorktown/vol004of040_cr2_to_jpg/vol004of040_048_1.jpg)
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Craig on 06 April 2013, 11:05:36
More Ice Spectacular!! :o

http://www.youtube.com/embed/hC3VTgIPoGU?rel=0

Very impressive, Dean  :o
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: AvastMH on 09 April 2013, 15:21:29

HMS Acacia. 9th July 1916. A strong mirage is noted at 11.15 am:

http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ADM53-32581/0251_1.jpg
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: paging500 on 10 April 2013, 22:04:49
Jamestown, 28 May 1879 (on passage from San Francisco to Sitka, Alaska)

"At 2.15 observed brilliant meteor in SW heavens."

http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Jamestown/vol041of040/vol041of067_034_1.jpg
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 10 April 2013, 22:54:49
Thanks, paging500, and welcome to Old Weather and the forum.  :)
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Craig on 03 May 2013, 05:42:18
Numerous earthquakes reported by Yukon between July 22 and August 2 1917 at King Cove, Alaska. Longest recorded duration 45 seconds.
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Craig on 03 May 2013, 06:42:41
Sept 23, 1917

Quote
Distinct and frequent earthquake rumblings from 1:00 AM to 7:00 AM with violent quake at 5:35 PM lasting 45 seconds.

http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USCS%20Yukon/Book%2022/IMG_4543_1.jpg
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 03 May 2013, 12:51:53
Numerous earthquakes reported by Yukon between July 22 and August 2 1917 at King Cove, Alaska. Longest recorded duration 45 seconds.

July 22, 1917 is
     http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USCS%20Yukon/Book%2022/IMG_4476_0.jpg
     http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USCS%20Yukon/Book%2022/IMG_4476_1.jpg
thru August 2, 1917
     http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USCS%20Yukon/Book%2022/IMG_4487_0.jpg
     http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USCS%20Yukon/Book%2022/IMG_4487_1.jpg

For volcano scientists:  Dates and Location (and weather) listed on the ...abcd_0.jpg pages. 
                                        Comments, including earthquake reports, on the ...abcd_1.jpg pages. 
Manually change the url "abcd" up or down one to go to preceding or following day's reports.
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Craig on 03 May 2013, 13:11:19
Thanks, Janet.

I checked a site on earthquake statistics and the only major one in Alaska (7 or greater) was in May of that year (1917).
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Maikel on 19 May 2013, 10:41:24
U.S.S. Yorktown, moored to Cobb Dock, New York.

22-12-1890 - 8 p.m. to midnight:
At 9:15 a corona with pronounced prismatic colors began to form about the moon, being completed about 9:45, red colors inside, blue outside; corona gradually extended with drifting cirro-cumulus clouds and dissipated about 10:15. Corona partially reformed about 11:50 but cleared away by end of watch.

http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Yorktown/vol004of040_cr2_to_jpg/vol004of040_211_1.jpg (http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Yorktown/vol004of040_cr2_to_jpg/vol004of040_211_1.jpg)
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Maikel on 04 June 2013, 04:06:52
U.S.S. Yorktown, some hours after leaving Galveston, Texas.

06-02-1891 - 8 p.m. to midnight:
Several brilliant meteors crossed NE sky between 11:00 and 12:00.

http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Yorktown/vol005of040_jpg_clean/vol005of040_056_1.jpg (http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Yorktown/vol005of040_jpg_clean/vol005of040_056_1.jpg)
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 24 July 2013, 05:13:00
Concord 17 July 1894.
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Concord/vol017of040/vol017of040_120_1.jpg (http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Concord/vol017of040/vol017of040_120_1.jpg)
Two distinct strata of clouds, the upper cirrus cumulas moving slowly from the Westward and the lower cumulus hanging over the land in unusual and peculiar forms, the peaks of some came of the mountains being at one time topped by several very regular layers of conical shaped clouds, one upon the other, appearing like a number of umbrellas, again these clouds formed in the shape of a grommet cap.

(Sounds to me like Lenticular clouds)
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Craig on 27 July 2013, 06:48:21
Flag Ship Jamestown 04/08/1848 near Tenerife

at 3.25 observed a meteor exceedingly bright enduring for the space of a few seconds and descending in an arc of about 15 degrees in a WNW direction
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Maikel on 29 July 2013, 10:28:48
U.S.S. Yorktown, at anchor Bath, Maine.

6 to 8 p.m.: Observed an Aurora Borealis from 7.00 to 8.00.

http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Yorktown/vol006of040_cr2_to_jpg/vol006of040_079_1.jpg (http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Yorktown/vol006of040_cr2_to_jpg/vol006of040_079_1.jpg)
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Maikel on 31 July 2013, 04:35:47
U.S.S. Yorktown, at anchor off Bridgeport, Connecticut

09-09-1891 - 4 to 8 p.m.:
Bright aurora in northern heavens.

http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Yorktown/vol006of040_cr2_to_jpg/vol006of040_085_1.jpg (http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Yorktown/vol006of040_cr2_to_jpg/vol006of040_085_1.jpg)

10-09-1891 - Midnight to 4 a.m.:
Aurora visible latter part of watch.

http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Yorktown/vol006of040_cr2_to_jpg/vol006of040_086_1.jpg (http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Yorktown/vol006of040_cr2_to_jpg/vol006of040_086_1.jpg)
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Maikel on 09 August 2013, 04:29:45
U.S.S. Yorktown, making passage from New York to St. Thomas W.I., somewhere between 25.80, -67.61 and 24.00, -66.88.

13-10-1891 - Midnight to 4 a.m.:
Observed about a dozen brilliant meteors crossing SE sky.

http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Yorktown/vol006of040_cr2_to_jpg/vol006of040_122_1.jpg (http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Yorktown/vol006of040_cr2_to_jpg/vol006of040_122_1.jpg)
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: AvastMH on 09 August 2013, 09:08:49
Sounds lovely... :D
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Maikel on 09 August 2013, 10:04:38
U.S.S. Yorktown, at anchor St. Thomas W.I.

15-10-1891 - 8 p.m. to midnight:
Between 8 and 9 large halo visible about moon, afterwards moon obscured.

http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Yorktown/vol006of040_cr2_to_jpg/vol006of040_124_1.jpg (http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Yorktown/vol006of040_cr2_to_jpg/vol006of040_124_1.jpg)
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Maikel on 13 August 2013, 10:26:32
U.S.S. Yorktown, at anchor off Bahia, Brazil

30-10-1891 - 8 p.m. to midnight:
At 11.25 a brilliant meteor crossed eastern sky.

http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Yorktown/vol006of040_cr2_to_jpg/vol006of040_139_1.jpg (http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Yorktown/vol006of040_cr2_to_jpg/vol006of040_139_1.jpg)
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: AvastMH on 13 August 2013, 16:26:56
Tried to find out more about these comets - but little luck I'm sorry to say  :(
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 13 August 2013, 17:26:34
All the near misses that such meteors make, they are really not noted anywhere.  A shame, really, but understandable.  Burning pieces of rock have to hit something to make the historical record.
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: AvastMH on 13 August 2013, 19:02:39
True Janet.
Had a great night yesterday with the Perseid shower  -bagging just over a dozen per hour. And got two passes of the ISS  ;D.  It cleared up tonight - but the temperature outside is close to zero and it was just too cold to manage. :(
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 13 August 2013, 20:20:31
I had clouds all nights (bc to oc).  Combined with city light polution, it wasn't worth waking up at 3am.  Glad you had a good view.  :)
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Maikel on 17 August 2013, 10:30:30
U.S.S. Yorktown, at anchor off Montevideo, Uruguay

15-11-1891 - 8 p.m. to midnight
Lunar eclipse ceased at 10.15.

http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Yorktown/vol006of040_cr2_to_jpg/vol006of040_155_1.jpg (http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Yorktown/vol006of040_cr2_to_jpg/vol006of040_155_1.jpg)
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Maikel on 18 August 2013, 10:34:13
U.S.S. Yorktown, making passage from Montevideo, Uruguay, to Valparaiso, Chile.
Position at 8 p.m.: -48.80, -65.04

19-11-1891 - 8 p.m. to midnight
At 9.45 a brilliant meteor crossed eastern sky.

http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Yorktown/vol006of040_cr2_to_jpg/vol006of040_159_1.jpg (http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Yorktown/vol006of040_cr2_to_jpg/vol006of040_159_1.jpg)
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: AvastMH on 22 August 2013, 18:26:01
This might be a repeat entry: Aurorae and Ice Blinks

http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/USS%20Rodgers/Rodgers_1881/b001of010_0116_1.jpg
18 Sept 1881 The Rodgers near Wrangel Island:

8 to Midnight: Very brilliant display of Northern light, brightest in the SW. It would extend across the entire heavens, in a bow shape, changing its form very rapidly. Then suddenly shoot off in every direction, so bright as to have the appearance of day breaking.
Passing fine ice cakes. No heavy ice in sight, young ice forming.
Ice blink to Northward and Westward.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

and then:
22 Sept 1881 The Rodgers near Wrangel Island:

http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/USS%20Rodgers/Rodgers_1881/b001of010_0120_1.jpg

8pm to Midnight: Light breeze from W by N. Weather pleasant. Partially clear. Brilliant aurora last hour.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
and then:

24 Sept 1881 The Rodgers near Wrangel Island:

http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/USS%20Rodgers/Rodgers_1881/b001of010_0122_1.jpg

12.35am: Ice blink very plain from SSE to NW by W.
3.00am: Very brilliant aurora. Light enough on deck to read large print.
8pm to Midnight: Brilliant display of aurora.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
and then:

25 Sept 1881 The Rodgers

http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/USS%20Rodgers/Rodgers_1881/b001of010_0123_1.jpg
8pm to Midnight: Brilliant aurora.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
30 September 1881
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/USS%20Rodgers/Rodgers_1881/b001of010_0128_1.jpg
Bright display of Northern Lights during the watch, brightest between 2 and 3am.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
1 October 1881
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/USS%20Rodgers/Rodgers_1881/b001of010_0129_1.jpg

6 to 8pm:  Luminous water.
9.00pm: Aurora to Northward and Eastward
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
3 October 1881
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/USS%20Rodgers/Rodgers_1881/b001of010_0131_1.jpg
Between 2 and 3am bright display of Northern Light. Water very luminous.
Ice blink on starboard beam between 9 and 11pm.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
5 October 1881
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/USS%20Rodgers/Rodgers_1881/b001of010_0133_1.jpg
8pm to Midnight: Aurora to Northward.


All copied to sunspots thread!
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Maikel on 24 August 2013, 05:32:09
H.M.S. Astraea - 29 May 1919
From Victoria to Sierra Leone
Lat 1.70, Long -7.47

Noon: Observed partial eclipse of sun
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ADM53-34371/ADM53-34371-081_1.jpg (http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ADM53-34371/ADM53-34371-081_1.jpg)
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Maikel on 26 August 2013, 13:14:37
U.S.S. Yorktown, at anchor Valparaiso, Chile

21-12-1891 - 8 p.m. to midnight.
Observed several meteors, one very brilliant.
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Yorktown/vol006of040_cr2_to_jpg/vol006of040_191_1.jpg (http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Yorktown/vol006of040_cr2_to_jpg/vol006of040_191_1.jpg)
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Maikel on 01 September 2013, 03:58:21
U.S.S. Yorktown
09-01-1892 At anchor Valparaiso, Chile

Midnight to 4 a.m. Observed several meteors.

http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Yorktown/vol007of040_cr2_to_jpg/vol007of040_015_1.jpg (http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Yorktown/vol007of040_cr2_to_jpg/vol007of040_015_1.jpg)
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 16 September 2013, 02:10:29
Concord 25 May 1895.
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Concord/vol019of040/vol019of040_059_1.jpg (http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Concord/vol019of040/vol019of040_059_1.jpg)

A tidal wave occurred about 3 o'clock which caused the ships in the harbor to swing around many times.

Sounds more like a Whirlpool to me  ;D
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 16 September 2013, 02:15:25
If it was a small tsunami, they'd of had the water rushing out then in several times, swinging the ships 180o each time it shifted.  With so many ships being anchored in proximity to one another, they must have been really worried about a collision.
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Kathy on 16 September 2013, 07:39:26
On the spin cycle. 
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: AvastMH on 16 September 2013, 18:52:07
 ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Maikel on 18 September 2013, 03:29:21
U.S.S. Yorktown, at sea, making passage to San Diego, California

17-03-1892 8 p.m. to midnight:
Several meteors crossed Northern sky.

8 p.m. position: 21 32 36N, 108 23 12W (Lat 21.54, Long -108.39)

http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Yorktown/vol007of040_cr2_to_jpg/vol007of040_083_1.jpg (http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Yorktown/vol007of040_cr2_to_jpg/vol007of040_083_1.jpg)
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Maikel on 20 September 2013, 10:12:49
U.S.S. Yorktown, at sea, making passage to and at anchor San Francisco, California

26-03-1892 - Midnight to 4 a.m.:
Several brilliant meteors crossed Northern sky.

7 a.m. position 37 56 50N, 122 42 30W (Lat 37.95, Long - 122.71)

http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Yorktown/vol007of040_cr2_to_jpg/vol007of040_092_1.jpg (http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Yorktown/vol007of040_cr2_to_jpg/vol007of040_092_1.jpg)
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: AvastMH on 20 September 2013, 13:36:57
Apologies if this is a duplicate mention of:
USS Yukon 16/12/1877:
"Singular phenomenon - rain falling heavily this AM, through thick fog."
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USCS%20Yukon/Book%209/IMG_4795_1.jpg

...happy day ::)
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Maikel on 26 September 2013, 03:29:46
U.S.S. Yorktown, moored to stone wharf, Mare Island, California.

19-04-1892, midnight to 4 a.m.:
At 2.50 felt a sharp earthquake lasting several seconds and causing the ship to tremble and the roof on the building abreast the ship to crack.

http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Yorktown/vol007of040_cr2_to_jpg/vol007of040_116_1.jpg (http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Yorktown/vol007of040_cr2_to_jpg/vol007of040_116_1.jpg)
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Kevin on 26 September 2013, 08:56:54
Concord 25 May 1895.
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Concord/vol019of040/vol019of040_059_1.jpg (http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Concord/vol019of040/vol019of040_059_1.jpg)

A tidal wave occurred about 3 o'clock which caused the ships in the harbor to swing around many times.

Sounds more like a Whirlpool to me  ;D

Small tsunami likely. http://earthquakes.findthedata.org/l/2318/W-Kyushu-Island-Japan
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 26 September 2013, 16:22:37
Nice find Kevin.
Explains all.
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: AvastMH on 30 September 2013, 16:24:45
Might they be interested in:

http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USCS%20Yukon/Book%2022/IMG_4478_1.jpg

USS Yukon. 24/07/1917 Earthquake shock of about 4.5 seconds duration at 5:20 PM

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USCS%20Yukon/Book%2022/IMG_4479_1.jpg
USS Yukon 25/07/1917 Earthquake shock of 2. seconds duration (occurred at 12:35pm) 
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
26th July - no earthquake report
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USCS%20Yukon/Book%2022/IMG_4481_1.jpg
USS Yukon 27/07/1917 Earthquake of 30 seconds duration at 3:15 PM
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USCS%20Yukon/Book%2022/IMG_4482_1.jpg
USS Yukon 28/07/1917 Two light earthquakes. [Transcriber's note: time not noted]
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
29th July - no earthquake report
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USCS%20Yukon/Book%2022/IMG_4484_1.jpg
USS Yukon 30/07/1917 Earth quake of short duration.
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Caro on 30 September 2013, 16:38:30
There was one on July 22 1917 too.
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USCS%20Yukon/Book%2022/IMG_4476_1.jpg
and on July 25
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USCS%20Yukon/Book%2022/IMG_4479_1.jpg
and on July 27 ...
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USCS%20Yukon/Book%2022/IMG_4481_1.jpg

...
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: AvastMH on 30 September 2013, 16:42:25
Ah - are you just doing the Yukon too Caro?  Devoid of any really useful weather - but the notes are very interesting if brief.
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Caro on 30 September 2013, 16:45:06
I particularly like this description:

Weather fair, fresh northerly breezes, earthquakes

 :)
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: AvastMH on 30 September 2013, 16:57:00
 ;D ;D ;D

Can I tempt you with... 'clearing cement out of the bilges'...natural place to keep cement powder...not ::)
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Kevin on 30 September 2013, 23:38:20
;D ;D ;D

Can I tempt you with... 'clearing cement out of the bilges'...natural place to keep cement powder...not ::)

Cement is sometimes cast as ballast in sailing vessels - though can be troublesome when the surrounding structure need to be repaired. The WESTWARD had cement mixed with boiler punchings, which was a lovely job jackhammering out at the mid-life refit.
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: AvastMH on 01 October 2013, 03:42:31
;D ;D ;D

Can I tempt you with... 'clearing cement out of the bilges'...natural place to keep cement powder...not ::)

Cement is sometimes cast as ballast in sailing vessels - though can be troublesome when the surrounding structure need to be repaired. The WESTWARD had cement mixed with boiler punchings, which was a lovely job jackhammering out at the mid-life refit.

Ah! - That explains why they put more cement back in a few days later, Kevin. They are clearly doing a major mid-life re-fit type thing at King Cove
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Dean on 01 October 2013, 08:09:31
Kevin:
     You beat me to the possible 'explanation!'  ;)

Also some 'less reputable' boat builders in the States used cement instead of lead for a while.  Not as dense, lots of 'issues.'
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: camiller on 02 October 2013, 08:29:00
Oct. 3, 1917, the Yukon, in King Cove, Alaska: "Pronounced earthquake shocks at 11:07 AM; 12:20 PM 3:45 PM and lesser ones during evening."

http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USCS%20Yukon/Book%2022/IMG_4553_1.jpg
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: AvastMH on 02 October 2013, 13:13:56
07/10/1917.
Very pronounced earthquake shock at 6.20 am
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USCS%20Yukon/Book%2022/IMG_4557_1.jpg

They surely must have been having mini tsunamis?
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: camiller on 02 October 2013, 13:30:36
07/10/1917.
Very pronounced earthquake shock at 6.20 am
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USCS%20Yukon/Book%2022/IMG_4557_1.jpg

They surely must have been having mini tsunamis?

I don't know about tsunamis, but I'm amazed at how they continue working on (in, and under?) the ship and its engines with all these quakes going on!
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: camiller on 02 October 2013, 14:40:30
15 Oct, 1917. the Yukon in King Cove, Alaska:
"Earthquake shocks at 4:30 AM"
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USCS%20Yukon/Book%2022/IMG_4565_1.jpg
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: AvastMH on 02 October 2013, 15:03:07
Too true camiller. I've got to go home now - but I'll certainly read up on any missed pages. In terms of a list of how to refurbish a boat these remarks are wonderful. But lurking under the boiler to sort out the stuff under the ash pans with all those quakes going on - eek!  I suppose when you think of the terrible other events going on at that time in this world a few days squirming in the bilges with quakes on the go is as nothing compared to the Somme.

It all seems odd though - ending up doing a refit in Alaska a winter comes on. :-\  ???

Good luck with transcribing tonight - we are very close to VAL on this one now I think....
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: camiller on 02 October 2013, 20:49:46
You're right, AvastMH.

There was an earthquake in May, 1917 in the Shumagin Islands,  east of King Cove a few hundred km.  I wonder if the shocks the Yukon felt in October were related to that.

I won't be transcribing much until next week. Good luck to the rest of the Yukon crew!
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: h.kohler on 10 October 2013, 18:18:06
A lunar eclipse seen from H.M.S. Orvieto:

5.0 Moon becoming eclipsed.

http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ADM_53-53887/ADM%2053-53887-007_0.jpg
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: camiller on 16 October 2013, 12:42:00
August 13, 1845, the Jamestown (1844), Porto Grande:

"Discovered a comet in the East."

"http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Jamestown/vol001of067/vol001of067_130_0.jpg

Perhaps it was the comet observed by Encke?

http://books.google.com/books?id=5XXjVF8fuGkC&pg=PA152&lpg=PA152&dq=great+june+comet+of+1845&source=bl&ots=oZtEM0e4SX&sig=zql7uvSiOuIeXtAlS1dz21BB_e8&hl=en&sa=X&ei=D8BeUoSHGLS24APpmID4Aw&ved=0CHsQ6AEwCQ#v=onepage&q=great%20june%20comet%20of%201845&f=false
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Randi on 21 October 2013, 14:56:23
(http://www.desismileys.com/smileys/desismileys_3266.gif)
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: camiller on 28 October 2013, 12:15:58
From the Albatross, in the Caribbean Sea, 8 February, 1884:

"At Mid. a bright meteor passed from W. to E., bear-ing S x E. "

http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Albatross/vol009of055/vol009of055_046_1.jpg
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 29 October 2013, 14:31:44
Concord 11/12 Aug 1895.
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Concord/vol019of040/vol019of040_204_0.jpg (http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Concord/vol019of040/vol019of040_204_0.jpg)

11 Aug. 8pm - mid.
An unusual number of shooting stars visible.

12 Aug. 8 - mid
A number of shooting stars visible.
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: asterix135 on 29 October 2013, 15:12:18
Concord 11/12 Aug 1895.
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Concord/vol019of040/vol019of040_204_0.jpg (http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Concord/vol019of040/vol019of040_204_0.jpg)

11 Aug. 8pm - mid.
An unusual number of shooting stars visible.

12 Aug. 8 - mid
A number of shooting stars visible.

The Perseid meteor shower - right on schedule
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 30 October 2013, 14:42:20
Thought it might have been.
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Helen J on 16 November 2013, 14:58:59
Total eclipse of the moon, observed by HMS Minerva from Dar-es-Salaam, on 4th July 1917.

http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ADM_53-49478/ADM%2053-49478-005_0.jpg
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Dean on 31 December 2013, 14:52:19
Log of Ark Royal  4 July 1917

Port Mudros Greece  Lat: 39.9     Long: 25.2


11:00pm: Total eclipse of moon visible.

https://s3.amazonaws.com/oldweather/ADM53-34100/0197_0.jpg ;)
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Craig on 19 January 2014, 10:14:55
Quote
A comet in sight, bearing N by W from 12:30 to daylight

Jamestown 1879  24/06/1881
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 19 January 2014, 10:38:30
There are pictures of that comet!  Wiki lists it as a "non-periodic" comet, "Great Comet of 1881 (C/1881 K1, 1881 III, 1881b)"

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-9ocAte1Ialo/UtvyzNMCw5I/AAAAAAAADAk/HGlvBlRulGs/w438-h553-no/Great+comet+of+1881.jpg)
Image Title: The great comet of 1881. Observed on the night of June 25-26 at 1h. 30m. A.M. (1881-1882)
Creator: Trouvelot, E. L. -- Artist
Medium: Chromolithographs
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Craig on 19 January 2014, 10:45:20
Wow! Spectacular! Is that the Big Dipper in the upper left?

I forgot to mention the Jamestown was in Sitka Alaska.
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Maikel on 12 February 2014, 07:00:04
U.S.S. Yorktown
45 20S, 76 24W

21-09-1893 - 4 to 8 a.m.

A well defined "Ojo de Toro" about 7.30 in NW.

http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Yorktown/vol010of040_cr2_to_jpg/vol010of040_109_1.jpg (http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Yorktown/vol010of040_cr2_to_jpg/vol010of040_109_1.jpg)
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Maikel on 27 February 2014, 10:04:53
U.S.S. Yorktown - At Callao, Peru

18-11-1893

Midnight to 4 a.m.: The sulphurous smell of "Callao, Painter" quite marked.
4 to 8 a.m.: Paintwork badly effected by Callao painter.
8 p.m. to Midnight.: Strong smell of the "Callao Painter".

http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Yorktown/vol010of040_cr2_to_jpg/vol010of040_170_1.jpg (http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Yorktown/vol010of040_cr2_to_jpg/vol010of040_170_1.jpg)

Callao Painter, a.k.a. Aguaje and El Pintor, from http://archive.org/stream/jstor-196596/196596_djvu.txt (http://archive.org/stream/jstor-196596/196596_djvu.txt):
Quote
This phenomenon is observed at Callao during the summer months, from December to April.
It consists of emanations of sulphuretted hydrogen gas, accompanied by changes in the color of the sea-water.
The English names, and the Spanish El Pintor, arose from the effect produced by the gas upon white paint, which becomes blackish, like the tint of oxidized silver.
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 27 February 2014, 11:48:02
Sulfur leaking up thru the sea water?  How unusual and nasty.  I'd never heard of anything like that before.  Fascinating.
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Randi on 10 March 2014, 12:44:51
 8) 8) 8)
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: camiller on 10 March 2014, 14:48:07
 8)
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Dean on 30 April 2014, 15:59:31
Just for us at Sea....

If you see this Today (Apr 30) just use the link.   (Explanation and information on pic is there  ;))

http://apod.nasa.gov/apod/astropix.html


If after that - use the link (a great NEW pic each day) and select 'Discover The Cosmos' upper left and choose the date. ;D
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 30 April 2014, 19:35:30
Gorgeous!
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: AvastMH on 01 May 2014, 03:53:46
Stunning photo...breath taking  :D :D :D 8)
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: camiller on 01 May 2014, 09:29:52
 8)
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: camiller on 06 May 2014, 15:40:37
Albatross, June 23, 1884, Washington,D.C.:
"Observed a brilliant Meteor in the S.W. moving from S.E. to N.W in a flat trajectory."
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Albatross/vol009of055/vol009of055_184_1.jpg
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Maikel on 14 May 2014, 03:09:14
U.S.S. Yorktown - At anchor Sitka, Alaska

26-08-1894, 8 p.m. to midnight:
Observed an Aurora Borealis at 9.00 lasting about 10 minutes.

http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Yorktown/vol012of040_cr2_to_jpg/vol012of040_076_1.jpg (http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Yorktown/vol012of040_cr2_to_jpg/vol012of040_076_1.jpg)

28-08-1894, 8 p.m. to midnight:
Between 9.10 and 9.25 was a faint display of the Aurora or Northern lights, showing in streaks above the mountains.

http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Yorktown/vol012of040_cr2_to_jpg/vol012of040_078_1.jpg (http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Yorktown/vol012of040_cr2_to_jpg/vol012of040_078_1.jpg)
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Maikel on 15 May 2014, 10:34:35
U.S.S. Yorktown - At sea making passage from Sitka to Unalaska
Position at 8 p.m.: 54 34 00N, 158 55 00W

04-09-1894 - 8 p.m. to midnight:

At 9.45 pm a remarkable brilliant patch of phosphorescence formed around the ship and then moved off to port. The clouds above this space were brightly illuminated by reflection.
Several other such patches were soon at a distance; in each case the clouds being illuminated brilliantly.

http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Yorktown/vol012of040_cr2_to_jpg/vol012of040_085_1.jpg (http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Yorktown/vol012of040_cr2_to_jpg/vol012of040_085_1.jpg)
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Randi on 15 May 2014, 12:47:30
 8)
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: AvastMH on 15 May 2014, 17:25:26
i wish i could have seen it 8) 8) 8)
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: lollia paolina on 20 May 2014, 07:10:06
Bear logs April 18th, 1906:

San Francisco Earthquake:

Original log:

http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USRC%20Bear/vol095/vol095_115_1.jpg


Copy:

http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USRC%20Bear/vol096/vol096_114_1.jpg

:)
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Craig on 20 May 2014, 07:19:20
Are you transcribing the copy log as well, Sylvia?
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Hanibal94 on 20 May 2014, 07:33:04
Don't the rules say that copies (but not duplicates) are SUPPOSED to be transcribed as well?

Duplicate Pages
You may occasionally see the same day twice. There are two different ways this can happen: duplicate scans and duplicate copies.

With duplicate scans, the same page has been scanned twice (e.g., http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USCS%20Patterson/Book%201/IMG_4775_0.jpg and http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USCS%20Patterson/Book%201/IMG_4776_0.jpg are clearly the same page, but you can see that they are different scans because the scanner's thumb is in a different place on the two images). This can happen by accident or because of an insert. (In most cases the left- and right-hand pages of the log book are included in a single image which is then split into two. If an insert covers the left-hand page, two scans will be required: one with the insert visible and one with the log page visible. This will generate two scans of the right-hand page.) In this case, there is no need to transcribe the second page. Just click on "I've finished with this page".

With duplicate copies, the same day has been logged twice. Even if the data are exactly the same, you will be able to see differences between the two pages. This could have happened if the log keeper has accidentally recorded the first of March in the February log book and then correctly recorded it in the March log book. It could also have occurred if someone copied the log book and accidentally copied a page twice. There have been cases where the data were NOT the same (see 7am weather codes in http://s3.amazonaws.com/oldweather/ADM53-40562/ADM%2053-40562-187_0.jpg and http://s3.amazonaws.com/oldweather/ADM53-40563/ADM%2053-40563-007_0.jpg). In this case, the scientists would very much like to have both pages transcribed. That allows them to see how accurate the original log keepers / copiers were.
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Randi on 20 May 2014, 07:50:45
Good point Hanibal. I will update that.

When there are only a couple of pages duplicated (as happened in the RN logs) it is probably worth doing for the sake of comparison.

However for many US logs we have both the original and the copy, so there are sometimes several months of duplicates. That is not worth doing. The PTB tried to remove duplicates earlier, but some were missed. We try to remove them as they are discovered.
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: camiller on 23 May 2014, 09:25:04
The first time I've seen a tidal rip mentioned in the logs:

Jamestown, 31 October, 1847, about 400 km south of the Cape Verde Is. and several hundred km off the African coast:

"At 2 passed a tide ripp."
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Jamestown/vol003of067/vol003of067_060_1.jpg
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Hanibal94 on 08 June 2014, 04:44:03
Bear, 25 Apr 1906:
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USRC%20Bear/vol095/vol095_122_1.jpg

3.15 pm: Felt earthquake (3 seconds duration).

Probably an aftershock from the Big One.
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 08 June 2014, 11:17:13
Probably.  :)
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: h.kohler on 25 June 2014, 12:37:46
From H.M.S. Ambrose:

10.20 pm: Observed Northern lights.

http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ADM53-33489/ADM53-33489-012_0.jpg

And the next day:

1.5 am: Observed rays of light appearing to the westward, lights increasing in density and movements until they formed an arc from horizon to horizon being green and white in colour with rapid changes.

http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ADM53-33489/ADM53-33489-012_1.jpg

Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Randi on 25 June 2014, 12:43:16
 8)
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Randi on 27 July 2014, 14:24:30
Jamestown:
October 26, 1891

At 1250 a meteor exploded in the air close aboard making a sharp report and shedding very bright many colored lights
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Maikel on 29 July 2014, 03:10:14
U.S.S. Yorktown - At anchor Nagasaki, Japan.

25-05-1895 - Meridian to 4 p.m.:
Noticed between three and four o'clock, a movement of all the vessels in the harbor swinging rapidly at their moorings, in various directions.

http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Yorktown/vol013of040_jpg_clean/vol013of040_162_1.jpg (http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Yorktown/vol013of040_jpg_clean/vol013of040_162_1.jpg)
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: kp_mushu on 02 September 2014, 10:34:33
Sept. 28, 1884 on Albatross, log mentions "several brilliant meteors" between 12 and 4 AM.
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: kp_mushu on 03 September 2014, 23:20:57
Oct. 4, 1884 on Albatross log, "Partial eclipse of the moon, while rising."
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Randi on 04 September 2014, 02:37:29
 8)
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Caro on 18 October 2014, 09:38:50
HMS Orama

Three mentions of the pampero, well outside the time frame given here:
"The name given to severe line squalls in Argentina and Uruguay, particularly in the Rio de la Plata area. They are associated with marked cold fronts and are usually accompanied by rain, thunder and lightning, a sharp drop in temperature and a sudden change of wind direction from northerly or northwesterly to southerly or south-westerly. They are most likely to occur during the period June to September." http://www.metlink.org/other-weather/weather-hazards/local-winds/

http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ADM_53-53462/ADM%2053-53462-010_1.jpg
2.30am, 15 December 1915, at English Bank

http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ADM_53-53463/ADM%2053-53463-009_1.jpg
9.00pm, 13 January 1916, at English Bank

http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ADM_53-53473/ADM%2053-53473-006_0.jpg
5.15pm, 6 November 1916, at English Bank
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Randi on 15 November 2014, 05:35:04
Meteors (copied here):

Thetis 14 Nov 1888, at anchor near Victoria BC
Between mid and 4am I found this post:

(http://kookabura.smugmug.com/photos/i-wVkkpRq/0/O/i-wVkkpRq.jpg)
Many meteors during the watch, - one very brilliant one to the southward.

Thanks to Hanibal94 for deciphering assistance.

http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Thetis/vol007of024/vol007_112_1.jpg

I am delighted to say that this Leonid shower was also reported in the UK:
http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v39/n995/abs/039084a0.html
in Nature Journal: Nature 39, 84-85 (22 November 1888):

The Leonid Meteor-Shower, 1888
W. F. DENNING
Abstract
AT Bristol rain fell heavily between midday on November 12 and the same time on November 13, a 5-inch gauge registering an inch and eight-tenths, which is by far the greatest downpour of the year within twenty-four hours. In the afternoon of November 13 the clouds broke, and the weather showed a disposition to become more favourable. At night the sky was moderately clear at times. I began to watch for the return of the Leonids at 15h. 30m., but there were many clouds until about 16h, when the firmament cleared and remained nearly cloudless until 18h. During the 2.5 hours 1 counted 29 shooting-stars, and of these 17 were Leonids; so that the shower was pretty conspicuous. The radiant-point was at 149 degrees + 22 degrees, which is almost identical with the place assigned to it in previous years.
____________________

I love it when these things come together. Well done the Thetis Watch, well done Kookaburra and Hanibal94.
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Dean on 18 November 2014, 14:24:30
Talk about vagaries of living near the lakes...

I just was out raking leaves. HOWEVER 10-12 miles (20km) to the south they are dealing with blizzard conditions, driving bans, and 3 to 6 foot (1 - 2 m) snows. Drifts are reported to be twice that!  This one is NOT a 'surprise' as they have been forecasting it for several days.
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 18 November 2014, 17:38:26
This is definitely one of the times that I'm really glad that I'm living on the west side of the Lakes - the year I lived on the Michigan lake shore, I saw snow as I'd never seen it before.  I'm glad you aren't in the direct path of the lake breeze on this one, Dean.
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Kookaburra on 22 November 2014, 14:49:21
Thetis, 1 January 1889.  For the superstitious, an eclipse on the first day of a New Year likely heralded a momentous year - good or bad, I am not sure.  Since it was in the middle of the day, they all got to watch.

At 12.23pm the first contact took place in the eclipse of the sun.  The greatest obscurity was at about 1.48 pm when only a narrow strip on the SE quarter was visible.  The last contact was at about 3.05.

http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Thetis/vol007of024/vol007_160_1.jpg
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Kookaburra on 25 November 2014, 16:40:08
Thetis, 15 Jan 1889

Between 7.55 and 11pm the moon was partially eclipsed by the earth.

This was just after an eclipse of the sun on 1 January.  The world must be coming to an end.

http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Thetis/vol007of024/vol007_175_1.jpg
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 25 November 2014, 18:52:53
Strange and wonderful events.
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: AvastMH on 26 November 2014, 16:59:46
Can't imagine how that went down in China - the Dragon swallowing the sun and having a chunk of the moon for pud!
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 26 November 2014, 17:52:50
If the sun eclipsed starting after noon in California, China probably never saw it.  I hope it missed all cultures that see that as evil and not just strange.
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Randi on 10 December 2014, 15:18:44
Quote from: http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Jamestown/vol003of067/vol003of067_130_0.jpg
at 8 a total eclipse of the Moon.
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: h.kohler on 20 December 2014, 18:01:01
Not so impressive as an erupting volcano, but:

Very marked mirage to the N and Eastward.

http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ADM_53-46888/ADM%20%2053-46888-016_0.jpg
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: leelaht on 23 December 2014, 12:24:16
Not from an OW log but maybe seen by our sailors in the Arctic Circle...  Here a picture of Polar Stratospheric Clouds seen recently (December 22 from Norway, posted on SpaceWeather)

(http://spaceweather.com/images2014/22dec14/psc_strip.jpg)

Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Randi on 23 December 2014, 12:40:58
WOW, I never saw anything like that!
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 23 December 2014, 14:00:15
Amazing!!
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: AvastMH on 23 December 2014, 14:18:24
Oh gosh - that's beautiful, breathtaking  :)
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Dean on 24 December 2014, 10:58:31
Incredible!!!! 

God's beauty continues to amaze!! 

 ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: leelaht on 24 December 2014, 19:35:07
from Spaceweather:

Unlike normal grey-white clouds, which hug Earth's surface at altitudes of only 5 to 10 km, PSCs float through the stratosphere (25 km) and they are fantastically colorful.

The photographer (Ivar Marthinusen) noted the clouds were so bright they were uncomfortable to look at directly.

Also known as "nacreous" or "mother of pearl" clouds, these icy structures form in the lower stratosphere when temperatures drop to around minus 85?C. Sunlight shining through tiny ice particles ~10?m across produce the characteristic bright iridescent colors by diffraction and interference. Once thought to be mere curiosities, some PSCs are now known to be associated with the destruction of ozone.

"Nacreous clouds far outshine and have much more vivid colours than ordinary iridescent clouds, which are very much poor relations and seen frequently all over the world," writes atmospheric optics expert Les Cowley. "Once seen they are never forgotten."
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Craig on 25 December 2014, 12:35:34
beautiful!
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Maikel on 31 December 2014, 10:22:07
U.S.S. Yorktown - At anchor Yokohama, Japan.

09-08-1896 - Meridian to 4 p.m.:
Observed the beginning of an Eclipse of the sun about 1.45 which appeared to be almost total toward close of watch.

http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Yorktown/vol016of040_jpg_clean/vol016of040_047_1.jpg (http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Yorktown/vol016of040_jpg_clean/vol016of040_047_1.jpg)
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: AvastMH on 31 December 2014, 10:35:43
Wonderful - seeing an eclipse is on my 'must do' hit list. Lucky them :D
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: exim202 on 12 January 2015, 17:03:56
Well, AvastMH, it's your lucky year!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solar_eclipse_of_March_20,_2015
Visible from UK, I think you are there (as I am). I just hope it isn't cloudy  :-\ Fingers crossed.
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: AvastMH on 12 January 2015, 18:05:10
oh WOW!!!!  PLEEEEEEEASE let the weather be KIIIIIIND. (please please please please please)  :-* :-* :-* :-* for the weather Gods

Yep - I'm just up the Thames valley from you, I think.
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: exim202 on 13 January 2015, 14:23:15
 ;D Think that made you happy!
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: AvastMH on 13 January 2015, 15:01:56
Certainly did!  ;D
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Hanibal94 on 13 January 2015, 15:47:44
Neat! I'll keep an eye out for it too.
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 23 January 2015, 13:28:50
09 August 1889

A very distinct and clear sun dog with two eccentric semi-circles of light one true sun and one false sun on each side of the true sun, visible from 10.00 to meridian

http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Thetis/vol009of024/vol009_017_1.jpg

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/78/AlcanSunbow.jpg)

Sun dogs:
http://ww2010.atmos.uiuc.edu/%28Gh%29/guides/mtr/opt/ice/sd.rxml
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Bob on 13 March 2015, 11:51:01
USS Jamestown
Mazatlan Harbor, Mexico
March 6, 1869 (http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Jamestown/vol028of067/vol028of067_052_1.jpg)

From 8 P.M. to Mid.   At 10.45 saw a brilliant meteor in the heavens to the N'd and W'd.
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Bob on 13 March 2015, 19:13:30
USS Jamestown
At sea making passage to Tapolabampo
March 8, 1869 (http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Jamestown/vol028of067/vol028of067_054_1.jpg)

From 8 to Mid.  At 10.10 observed a brilliant meteor proceeding from the constellation of Leonid lighting up the heavens to the E'd.
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Bob on 18 March 2015, 11:42:53
USS Jamestown
April 6, 1869 (http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Jamestown/vol028of067/vol028of067_083_1.jpg)
Near Mazatlan, Mexico

From 6 to 8 P.M.   At 7.31 observed near the horizon to the W'd a luminous spot of soft mellow light extending from about two degrees above to 25 in height and about two degrees in width. It gradually faded away during remainder of watch.

Sounds like a Sun Pillar (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Light_pillar)!
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 18 March 2015, 11:56:23
I never heard of a sun pillar before, what a fascinating thing to observe.
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Randi on 18 March 2015, 13:31:53
 8)
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Randi on 18 March 2015, 16:46:58
4 Aug 1848 - Canary Islands

Quote from: http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Jamestown/vol004of067/vol004of067_006_0.jpg
at 3.25 observed a Meteor exceedingly bright enduring for the space of a few seconds, and descending an arc of about 15 degrees in a WNW Direction
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Bob on 21 March 2015, 09:28:37
USS Jamestown
April 26th, 1869
Making passage to Panama

From 6 to 8 P.M.

At 7.33 a very remarkable meteor appeared in the direction of the constellation Ursa Majoris. It was in sight about one fourth of a second when it burst at which moment it was apparently of about 20 min diameter its color a bright red.

http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Jamestown/vol028of067/vol028of067_103_1.jpg (http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Jamestown/vol028of067/vol028of067_103_1.jpg)
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 21 March 2015, 12:10:27
I love when the descriptions are so precise I can see the event in my mind's eye.  :)
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: AvastMH on 22 March 2015, 09:14:52
It made the local news!  Oh - perhaps not as this is 11a.m. and the Jamestown was on the evening. Oh well! I guess it was a Lyrid - a spectacular one  :)

(http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/640x480q90/661/7EeSLj.jpg)
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Bob on 22 March 2015, 10:10:04
Very interesting! There have been several mentions of meteors on this trip, it seems there's a case for an Ursid shower existing around that time, too:

http://meteorshowersonline.com/showers/april_ursids.html (http://meteorshowersonline.com/showers/april_ursids.html)

It made the local news!
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: AvastMH on 22 March 2015, 10:54:40
yep -very interesting!  :)  I like to sit out with the neighbours on summer nights to watch for shooting stars. There's a fair bit if light pollution, but it's not too bad just by our flats.  :)
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Bob on 14 April 2015, 19:14:28
USS Jamestown

Sept 14, 1869 (http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Jamestown/vol030of067/vol030of067_084_1.jpg)

Commences and until 4 A.M.   At 2.15 water suddenly changed to a whitish color, took cast of lead no bottom in 80 fms. Discolored water about ship during remainder of watch.

[Log page with noon position (http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Jamestown/vol030of067/vol030of067_084_0.jpg)]
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: AvastMH on 15 April 2015, 08:13:18
Whoa! You've got 16 on your sick list on the Jamestown....that's a lot...any idea of what they've got? Something nasty from North Africa?
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Bob on 15 April 2015, 09:19:42
It's been consistently in the teens since they left San Francisco, and over 20 a couple times. It got down to three in Panama after a bunch of desertions and a mass transfer of discharged sailors. No mentions of any causes or comments on the length of the list.
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: AvastMH on 15 April 2015, 16:04:39
Oh right - you're over there! Odd though - perhaps there's something poor in the diet, or water?   The Jeannette crew realised that they had a lot of dodgy canning leading to lead poisoning - perhaps it's something like that - we may never know... :-\
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Bob on 17 April 2015, 08:38:09
USS Jamestown
October 1, 1869 (http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Jamestown/vol030of067/vol030of067_101_1.jpg)
Nuku Hiva, Marquesas Islands

From Mdgt. to 4 A.M.   Observed two small bright clouds bearing S.S.E. to S. by E. respectively 28o & 25o above the horizon & distant from one another about 20o; probably the Magellan Clouds.
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Randi on 17 April 2015, 08:43:25
Neat!
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 17 April 2015, 09:39:37
beautiful.  :)
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: propriome on 24 April 2015, 10:16:20
Not sure if it fits here, anyway Unalga has just encountered her first little natural phenomena on 23 June 1921 (http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Unalga//Volumes/Seagate%20Backup%20Plus%20Drive/Arfon-JPEGS/RG26/UNALGA//b2573/b2573_208_1.jpg).
She had left Dutch Harbor, Unalaska Island same day at 4:30pm, bound for Pribilof Islands:
Quote
8pm to Mid - Light NNW airs to calm; overcast and foggy to misty; sea smooth and very phosphorescent.

Also next day (24 June 1921 (http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Unalga//Volumes/Seagate%20Backup%20Plus%20Drive/Arfon-JPEGS/RG26/UNALGA//b2573/b2573_209_1.jpg)) phosphorescent sea is recorded in first watch:
Quote
Mid. to 4:00am :- Calm; overcast, light fog first part; smooth and phosphorescent sea.
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 24 April 2015, 10:24:13
Sailing thru fog on a bright shining sea must have seemed magical.  :)
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Bob on 02 May 2015, 11:02:26
USS Jamestown
December 30, 1869 (http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Jamestown/vol030of067/vol030of067_190_1.jpg)
29 33 18N, 179 53 02E (http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Jamestown/vol030of067/vol030of067_190_0.jpg)

From 8 P.M. to Merid.   At 11.23 observed a very brilliant meteor passing from constellation of the "Gemini" to S.E. and disappearing about 28o above the horizon

December 30, 1869 (http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Jamestown/vol030of067/vol030of067_191_1.jpg)
29 57 29N, 177 20W (http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Jamestown/vol030of067/vol030of067_191_0.jpg)

Commences and until 4 A.M.   Meteors shooting to the Sd
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Randi on 02 May 2015, 12:43:51
 8)
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Maikel on 18 May 2015, 04:08:56
U.S.S. Yorktown - At Navy Yard, Mare Island, California.

27-12-1898 - 4 to 8 p.m.:
Observed eclipse of moon, that body passing out of earth's shadow about 5.45.

http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Yorktown/vol019of040_cr2_to_jpg/vol019of040_052_1.jpg (http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Yorktown/vol019of040_cr2_to_jpg/vol019of040_052_1.jpg)
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Zovacor on 31 May 2015, 19:07:42
Sept. 2, 1849. Constantinople. The moon underwent a partial eclipse from 6-8 PM.

http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Jamestown/vol005of067/vol005of067_012_0.jpg
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Bob on 15 June 2015, 18:00:03
USS Jamestown
April 17, 1876
San Francisco, California

4 to 8 A.M.   Light shock earthquake at 7.35

http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Jamestown/vol038of067/vol038of067_041_1.jpg
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: AvastMH on 16 June 2015, 16:21:23
Spooky! It's, bar one day, exactly 30 years before the Big One!  :o
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Helen J on 07 July 2015, 12:43:30
Not sure this is the right place - but can't think where else to put it.  Mods, please feel free to move it if there's a better location.

At 2.00 stopped ship and lowered cutter to investigate discolored water in mouth of Behm Canal, found it caused by a school of jelly fish.

http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USCS%20Patterson/Book%2034/IMG_8222_0.jpg

I'm wondering what jelly fish could be doing to discolour the water ....?
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Randi on 07 July 2015, 12:56:26
This is the place to put it!

Joan - something for Shipopoly? ;D
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Hurlock on 07 July 2015, 14:10:31
Not sure this is the right place - but can't think where else to put it.  Mods, please feel free to move it if there's a better location.

At 2.00 stopped ship and lowered cutter to investigate discolored water in mouth of Behm Canal, found it caused by a school of jelly fish.

http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USCS%20Patterson/Book%2034/IMG_8222_0.jpg

I'm wondering what jelly fish could be doing to discolour the water ....?

It is probably the colour of the jellyfish themselves that is making the water look a different colour.  Alternately they may be doing a chemistry lesson in their school
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Randi on 07 July 2015, 14:31:52
 :P
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Helen J on 07 July 2015, 15:00:35

It is probably the colour of the jellyfish themselves that is making the water look a different colour.  Alternately they may be doing a chemistry lesson in their school

 :D :D :D
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: studentforever on 19 July 2015, 11:04:05
Macedonia is coming in to Simonstown and passes through discoloured water on consecutive days.

18 Dec 1915: 7.05am:   Passed discoloured streaks in water tending NNW & SSE
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ADM_53-47705/ADM%2053-47705-012_0.jpg

12.10pm:   Passing discoloured patches of water. Yellowish matter
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ADM_53-47705/ADM%2053-47705-012_1.jpg
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Helen J on 19 July 2015, 13:41:57
Patterson is at Departure Bay, B.C. and records:

A partial eclipse of the moon occured between 10.30 and 11 p.m.

http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USCS%20Patterson/Book%2034/IMG_8255_1.jpg

Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Randi on 04 August 2015, 09:48:48
Not from our logs, but: The wonder of a rainbow in Beijing (http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-33769441)
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Hanibal94 on 04 August 2015, 10:11:01
Quite a big and complete-looking one! I like.  8)
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 04 August 2015, 10:29:24
beautiful and perfect.
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Randi on 14 August 2015, 07:33:18
Little bit of action visible from the Perseid meteor shower before getting caught in a storm.

http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Albatross/vol016of055/vol016of055_117_1.jpg

http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Albatross/vol016of055/vol016of055_170_1.jpg

Last watch observes the Geminid meteor shower.

http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Albatross/vol017of055/vol017of055_016_1.jpg

A couple important visitors from foreign navies, and some meteors. Given the date, it's pretty likely that these are part of the Quadrantid annual meteor shower.
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: HatterJack on 29 August 2015, 01:27:47
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Albatross/vol017of055/vol017of055_106_1.jpg

4am - 8 am "Saw a well defined comet at 4:15 bearing ENE1/4E (mag)"

I'm at a loss as to what comet this is, if it's even a known comet.  The time frame matches up, but it wasn't Sawerthal, as it wasn't visible to the naked eye, per Backhouse's notes. There doesn't appear to be any record of any comets that would have been visible to the naked eye for 1888 at all. Encke would line up time-wise as well, if I did my math right, but I'm not really sure about that.

Other than those two, I can't really find any information regarding any other comets in 1888 (and Encke doesn't actually even have a record of having been observed). Thought this was an interesting find.
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 29 August 2015, 02:31:52
Just googling 'comet 1888' I pulled up an interesting doc SAO/NASA Astrophysics Data System (ADS) (http://articles.adsabs.harvard.edu/full/seri/AJ.../0008//0000127.000.html)

On page 127 it lists readings made at Greenwich Obs. for "Observations of Comet 1888a (Sawerthal)"
On page 128 it lists readings made at Greenwich Obs. for "Ephemeris of Comet 1888e (Barnard)" which were taken later in the year than your log.

Searching gets odd results, for each of these you have to click "More Article Retrieval Options" and choose "Send data to viewer"
Same source, different article: http://adsabs.harvard.edu/abs/1888AJ......7..190.
A new (unnamed) comet spotted first at McCormick Obs. by a Mr. Muller.  (NOT that Sawerthal, that was discovered in Feb.)

More on above comet, now named Olbers:
http://adsabs.harvard.edu/abs/1888AJ......8...30P
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: HatterJack on 29 August 2015, 02:49:50
That must have been the link I tried that was blocked by my company's firewall. They certainly seem to choose the strangest things to block (and yet they haven't blocked Facebook, YouTube, or Reddit). Thanks for that, looks like when the crew aboard our big gooney gal spotted this, it actually would have been unknown at the time.

I do have a small issue with the timing of the Olbers comet, in that all the data I can find on it is from 1887, but this was observed in 1888. I'm not an astronomer, though, and I'll concede that a comet with a 70+ year period can probably move slow enough to be seen through a telescope in late 1887, and still be visible to the naked eye in the spring of 1888.
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Randi on 29 August 2015, 03:03:49
Just a guess - arrival and departure?
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 29 August 2015, 04:10:06
Very possibly arrival and departure.  Also Wiki says some very strange things about its period.

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/13P/Olbers
Heinrich Wilhelm Matthias Olbers (Bremen) discovered the comet on March 6, 1815. Its orbit was first computed by Carl Friedrich Gauss on March 31, Friedrich Bessel calculated an orbital period as 73 years, later as 73.9 years, calculations by other astronomers during that era resulted anywhere between 72 and 77 years.[6]

And then the source [6] Wiki quotes changes that again:
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/13P/Olbers
Designation   Name   Discovered   Last T   Next T   Period
     13P     Olbers         1815           1956   2024   69.56
Notice the time between last and next does not match their own stated period.  I'm thinking we shouldn't worry over much if it is off schedule.   ::)
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Randi on 04 September 2015, 07:08:23
3rd December 1904 Callao, Peru

http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Albatross/vol040of055/vol040of055_041_1.jpg

At 1.35 a severe shock of earthquake was felt on board the ship.


This might be previously unrecorded... the only records I can find of an earthquake in Peru during 1904 was at 05:17 on 4 March 1904, centered near Lima, but pretty much levelled Callao and Chorrillos, but this isn't an official source. I honestly can't find a single official record of an earthquake in South America that year that would have been sufficient to feel aboard a ship that wouldn't have caused a fair bit of destruction to the city whose port she found herself anchored in.

The USGS only has a single historical quake listed for 1904, and that was in Greece, but they haven't publicly released any new information for their historical database since 2012. Anyone with contacts with USGS want to forward this find along?


http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Albatross/vol018of055/vol018of055_067_1.jpg

4am to 8am: the last line simply states, "Passed considerable floating kelp".

...
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Hurlock on 04 October 2015, 17:20:59
March 23rd 1889 standing between Tiburon and San Esteban Islas, Mexico

Sea very phosphorescent

http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Albatross/vol019of055/vol019of055_090_1.jpg
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Hurlock on 06 October 2015, 13:12:41
14/04/1889

Lunar rain bow in sight last hour(4am)

http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Albatross/vol019of055/vol019of055_112_1.jpg
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: AvastMH on 06 October 2015, 13:38:03
oh wow!!!! THAT is on my bucket list - I'd LOVE to see one  :D
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 06 October 2015, 13:57:08
I've never seen one.  Unlike solar rainbows, they seem to happen around the moon rather than opposite it in the sky.  I wonder which of these it looked like (given the horizon would be defined by the sea.)

(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/62/63/a8/6263a88835febf5898afe1a295cfad53.jpg)

(http://a3.img.mobypicture.com/abbd3f9258c1c8577848b75641513a62_view.jpg)
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: AvastMH on 06 October 2015, 14:35:49
Beautiful - just beautiful - thanks for the pics Janet  :D
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: studentforever on 12 October 2015, 03:12:23
HMS Macedonia, 23 Feb 1918 3.30pm: large water spout SSW 0.5 miles
Noon position not given but 2 days later she entered Hudson River for New York

http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ADM53-34905/ADM53-34905-051_1.jpg
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: HatterJack on 05 November 2015, 06:35:30
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Albatross/vol026of055/vol026of055_071_1.jpg

8PM to Midnight

Moon in total eclipse until 8:30
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: AvastMH on 05 November 2015, 15:15:32
and followed by an aurora - what a sight!  :D
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Randi on 11 November 2015, 13:30:21
March 17th 1893 (http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Thetis/vol016of024/vol016_015_1.jpg) - Pequena Bay, Lower California
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Passed large patches of discolored water, dark reddish brown ("whalefood").

Presumably some sort of krill.
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Bob on 11 November 2015, 19:47:28
USS Jamestown
November 30, 1853
Montevideo


From 4 to 8   observed a partial eclipse of the sun between 4 1/2" and 5 1/2" P.M.


http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Jamestown/vol007of067/vol007of067_113_0.jpg (http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Jamestown/vol007of067/vol007of067_113_0.jpg)
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Bob on 23 November 2015, 15:10:03
USS Jamestown
May 1, 1855
Key West

From 8 to Midnight.   Total Eclipse of the Moon commenced at 8h 46m 38s disappearance 9h 49m 38s. reappearance at 11h 25m 50s.

http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Jamestown/vol008of067/vol008of067_034_1.jpg (http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Jamestown/vol008of067/vol008of067_034_1.jpg)
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Randi on 23 November 2015, 15:15:34
 8)
Very precise!
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: HatterJack on 25 November 2015, 23:15:55
 :o That is an incredibly long total lunar eclipse! For point of reference, it's almost exactly 10 minutes shorter than the longest ever, on 31 May, 381 C.E., which was a total of 106.6 minutes, whereas this was 96.2 minutes. As further reference, the *average* length of a lunar eclipse is just a bit over an hour (for the totality portion, when it takes on that striking red color, thanks to the diffusion and refraction of sunlight through the Earth's atmosphere). Space is pretty awesome too. It's like the ocean, but bigger and more thoroughly explored.
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Bob on 28 November 2015, 08:35:50
USS Jamestown
July 1, 1855
34 15 21 N, 30 39 30 W (noon observation)

Commences with and until 4 AM. At 3.30 An unusually brilliant Meteor in the West._

http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Jamestown/vol008of067/vol008of067_065_1.jpg (http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Jamestown/vol008of067/vol008of067_065_1.jpg)
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Helen J on 27 December 2015, 12:15:52
USS Jamestown 1886, 15th April 1887.

They are travelling from St Thomas W.I. to Newport R.I., and at midday on the following day are at N 39 26, W 72 50.

6pm to 8pm: Noticed peculiar phosphoresence of water

http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Jamestown/vol058of067/vol058of067_031_1.jpg
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Bob on 28 December 2015, 12:13:57
USS Jamestown
February 10, 1856
At Sea, Eastern North Atlantic

From Meridian to 4. A heavy
African red dust fog obscuring the
Sun and coloring the sails and
rigging, when collected having
the appearance of fine brick dust.


Looking ahead, they were in this dust storm until early on the 14th.

http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Jamestown/vol009of067/vol009of067_022_0.jpg
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: leelaht on 28 December 2015, 12:22:20
I think I recall that there is a theory that such dust decreases the likelihood of hurricanes?
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Bob on 28 December 2015, 12:41:55
Anything that would disrupt the formation of easterly tropical atmospheric 'waves' off the African coast would limit hurricane development from there. In this case either the dust itself (?) or the possibly adverse weather pattern that drives the dust off shore. It's been a while since I took that Tropical Meteorology course...  ;)

(February isn't in Atlantic hurricane season, though, but same principles would apply)

I think I recall that there is a theory that such dust decreases the likelihood of hurricanes?
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 28 December 2015, 13:47:42
Anything that would disrupt the formation of easterly tropical atmospheric 'waves' off the African coast would limit hurricane development from there. In this case either the dust itself (?) or the possibly adverse weather pattern that drives the dust off shore. It's been a while since I took that Tropical Meteorology course...  ;)

(February isn't in Atlantic hurricane season, though, but same principles would apply)

I think I recall that there is a theory that such dust decreases the likelihood of hurricanes?

So NASA and other research say.

http://www.weather.com/science/weather-explainers/news/saharan-dust-africa-caribbean-gulf-of-mexico

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mineral_dust#Effect_on_hurricane_frequency
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Bob on 17 January 2016, 11:25:25
USS Jamestown
June 29, 1856
Funchal, Madeira

From 8 to Midnight

Saw a brilliant Meteor running from SW to NE


http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Jamestown/vol009of067/vol009of067_092_0.jpg (http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Jamestown/vol009of067/vol009of067_092_0.jpg)
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Randi on 19 January 2016, 07:14:19
Bob found this text on Beluga's log:

http://whaling-data.oldweather.org/subjects/logbookofbelugast00unse_0055.jpg
September 13, 1897
Young ice making and water smoking.

So I went googling for an image of that icy smoke, and found this.
Arctic Sea Fog (sea smoke) (https://www.youtube.com/embed/M4FzmzVlojY) youtube

Uploaded on Feb 5, 2012 by "Arctic Exposure"
I was out photographing the ice and sea smoke today and tested a little video as well. Will go out mainly for video later on if the cold continues. -24 Celcius today, so quite cold out there.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sea_smoke
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 19 January 2016, 11:12:25
Happens on lakes as well as oceans, this is the sunrise image on this morning's newspaper front page - looking at Navy Pier from a boat I think, altho who wants to go out on the Lake in this weather is a little bit crazy.


(http://i.imgur.com/zP3dlJK.png)
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: jd570b on 21 January 2016, 16:34:35
I'm not sure if this is noteworthy [enough] to post here.  This is the second or third time I have ran across "long swell".  If it doesn't need to be here, let me know and I will not post it again.

Thanks to all.

15/06/1887 - http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Jamestown/vol058of067/vol058of067_096_1.jpg
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Long swell from NNE.
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: AvastMH on 21 January 2016, 16:53:44
I'm not sure myself, jd570b. I wonder if any of our sailors could comment faster than I can try to find out?  :)
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: HatterJack on 21 January 2016, 22:45:20
If they thought it noteworthy enough to mark it down in the ship's log, it's probably worth mentioning here. It's probably not *super* important, but still worth mentioning, as it would have been generated by a fairly large storm system far away from the ship (swells are categorized as waves that are not created by local wind forces). There's a reasonable chance that it could have been generated from a large storm over deep water that we don't already know about.
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Randi on 22 January 2016, 08:55:55
Philip checks the forum regularly, so he will almost certainly see this.

It wouldn't hurt to note it - especially since it is short.
However, the problem in OW3 is that there is no easy way for Philip to spot Events about weather or sea conditions, and OW3 does not request sea information. In general, Philip has not encouraged noting weather in Event boxes.

OWW and OW5 are a different matter. There we are explicitly collecting information on the sea.
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: jd570b on 22 January 2016, 17:10:06
Hallooo Randi!!

Let's pretend for a second that you lost me with OW3, OWW and OW5.  :-[

Also, should it not be entered in an event box?  :-\

Thanks  ;)
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 22 January 2016, 19:35:49
For every one relatively new:

OW# is the chronological progression/growth of Old Weather interfaces, OW1 being first launched in October 2010, when NOBODY knew what they were doing - yet.

OW-phases 1 and 2 were our Royal Navy voyages, 2 being a massive software rewrite of 1.  All nicely completed and in databases, comments in Naval-History.Net (http://www.naval-history.net/OWShips-LogBooksWW1.htm).

OW-phase 3 is our good old OW Classic, and while anything that might be useful and that interests you can be made an event, the events do not ever go into the climate change databases.  While Philip may well read your forum post about ocean swells, the analysts sorting out the database info will likely never see any of that.

OW-phase 4 is OW:Whaling - its own very unique set ships and utterly lacking codes, needing different handling.

OW-phase 5 is the new OldWeather.org - and it does collect State of the Sea for climate databases.  But it is still pulling climate database material from the tabulated coded infor, so we need to get from Philip and Kevin here what they permanently want to do with ocean swells.  For now, I'd play safe-rather-than-sorry and record anything that looks interesting.

The world's navies and merchant fleets do not seem to run out of ships to transcribe.  ;)
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: jd570b on 22 January 2016, 21:52:13
Thanks Janet.  That clears up a lot.

HatterJack  --  I did a bit of research and found that 19 known storms occurred in 1887.  Although there were no [known] storms active at the time, there well could have been foul weather over the horizon.  I know it would be rare, but could a swell also originate from landslides or eruptions?

I found a couple of sites that have searchable storm tracks going back to the 1850s.  In case no one has the links they are:
https://coast.noaa.gov/hurricanes/    My favorite.  Covers the Atlantic, Pacific and Indian oceans into the 1850's.

http://weather.unisys.com/hurricane/index.php    Covers the Atlantic into the 1850s; the Pacific & Indian oceans into the 1940s.

Another swell two days later.
17/06/1887 - http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Jamestown/vol058of067/vol058of067_098_1.jpg
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Long E'ly swell.

And now I think I'll pour a little bit of Jack and watch the snow pile up.

Everyone stay safe and warm.





Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Randi on 23 January 2016, 07:45:26
Hallooo Milton!!

Hope you are safe and warm!

Quote
Also, should it not be entered in an event box?  :-\
It would be quite correct to enter it on the Events tab as an Event, but I'm not sure it would be worth it :(
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Danny252 on 23 January 2016, 08:44:31
OWW and OW5 are a different matter. There we are explicitly collecting information on the sea.

At risk of going even further off topic, why is it now being collected? IIRC it was never collected before because it didn't give much information about the weather where the ship was at, the waves being able to travel very far from any originating weather system. Perhaps climate science has moved on, and sea state information can be better deciphered!
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: HatterJack on 23 January 2016, 09:38:36

HatterJack  --  I did a bit of research and found that 19 known storms occurred in 1887.  Although there were no [known] storms active at the time, there well could have been foul weather over the horizon.  I know it would be rare, but could a swell also originate from landslides or eruptions?


That's actually a more difficult question to answer than it would seem at face value. Waves, in general, are created by wind at the surface, and there's actually a rather simple equation that can determine the speed of the wind that created a particular wave, which makes it possible to gauge wind speeds of storms that we can't see, based solely on the size of the wavelength and wave height.

That said, it's actually not rare at all to find waves that fall outside of the general pattern of waves created in the typical fashion. Landslides, earthquakes, volcanic (or really any substantial) explosions, particularly strong squalls, and a myriad of other factors can all generate waves or alter patterns in a noticeable way. A tsunami is essentially a wave created backwards, and we've known about those for thousands of years now.

I would suspect that the reason why they didn't want to have a lot of information previously is that without reliable data regarding storms in a certain region, it would be impossible to really say whether it was a swell created by a hurricane a thousand kilometers away, or if it was the shockwave of a landslide nearby, or even the leading edge of a massive tsunami (tsunamis are notoriously difficult to detect in deep water, though, so a noticeable swell beyond the continental shelf that was actually tsunami related would be a catastrophic disaster when it made landfall). With increasingly more reliable weather system and geological data on record, it becomes much easier to determine whether a particularly long swell was born in a hurricane or a nuclear bomb test (or really anything else). I could be wrong though, I'm not a meteorologist.
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: AvastMH on 23 January 2016, 14:55:56
I think you have the nub of it there Hatterjack. Without that larger area information about anything that might cause waves there is always a question mark over them.  :)
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: jd570b on 23 January 2016, 20:26:58
Thanks to all for their 'swell' answers.   ;D  ::)

I normally don't pay attention to the sea water density.  But since the log keeper called this out.

18/06/1887 - http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Jamestown/vol058of067/vol058of067_099_1.jpg
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Density of sea-water at 10 and 12 was 29.
   This was on the 8 AM to Merid. (Forenoon) watch.

On the 4 to 8 AM (Morning) watch it was logged as:
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Density 29.

And on the 12 to 4 PM (Afternoon) watch it was logged as:
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Density of water 31.

I know that this board is for phenomena such as: typhoons, waves, eruptions, meteors and maybe the occasional creature from the black lagoon.  I'm not sure how small the phenom should be.  Or for that matter if 19 point variation in density would be considered unusual.  Still learning the ropes.
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Randi on 24 January 2016, 04:38:26
 :P ;D

There is no obvious place to put that data, but it does seem a pity to ignore it.
The best place might be the Discussion topic for Jamestown.
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: jd570b on 24 January 2016, 10:20:54
Hmmmmm.

I originally read this as: Two readings taken at or around noon with densities of 10 and 12 respectively.  "Was 29" I read as the reading on the previous watch.

Now that I have slept on it, it seems to read: Two readings taken at 10 AM and 12 Noon and the readings were 29 each.

I'm going back to bed now.  :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: AvastMH on 24 January 2016, 10:39:32
Hey - No worries..it is, in my experience, highly irregular for times to go into the log without the 'a.m.' or 'p.m.' being shown, even when they are in a section devoted to one watch. I would have had to sit and think about that one for a while.  :) It's a bit Patterson like  ::)
AND we know a lot more about water densities now  :D
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: jd570b on 25 January 2016, 19:04:34
 :)   :D   ;D
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 06 February 2016, 16:09:05
Concord 24 Sep 1909, 8PM - Mid.
At 10:12 a large number of meteors from a point near the moon traversed the entire sky in an Eastern direction, breaking into several fragments. Some remained visible for about a minute. All traversed exactly the same path, the brightest being equal in brightness to Mars.

Can not find mention of it on 'that famous search engine'
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: jd570b on 09 February 2016, 18:08:07
Jamestown (1886)
03/08/1887 - http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Jamestown/vol058of067/vol058of067_147_1.jpg
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Moon rose in state of partial eclipse.
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: HatterJack on 10 February 2016, 07:16:51
Concord 24 Sep 1909, 8PM - Mid.
At 10:12 a large number of meteors from a point near the moon traversed the entire sky in an Eastern direction, breaking into several fragments. Some remained visible for about a minute. All traversed exactly the same path, the brightest being equal in brightness to Mars.

Can not find mention of it on 'that famous search engine'

September Epsilon Perseids most likely. It's a bit on the late side for that particular annual shower, but it fits the description pretty well, and is only late by a few days.
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Danny252 on 10 February 2016, 11:31:24
That doesn't appear to fit the position of the moon - at 10:12pm 24 Sep 1909 local time at 21N, 160W (about 08:00am 25 Sep 1909 GMT), the moon was located to the SW the constellation of Capricornus, on the other side of the sky from Perseus which was in the NE!

I would suspect that it was perhaps a single large object breaking up from their description.
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: AvastMH on 10 February 2016, 14:37:16
I say - that's some fine work folks! Great understanding of the night sky.

I found this in Wiki - I wonder if a few, upon seeing that celestial firework display, may not have been in fear for their lives until midnight:

"The world did not come to an end as scheduled. Led by Robert B. Swan, 300 members of the "Triune Immersionists" gathered in West Duxbury, Massachusetts, in anticipation of 10:00 a.m., when the crust of the Earth would peel off, destroying the wicked and permitting the righteous to survive. After 10:00 passed without incident, the prediction was revised to sometime within the 24 hours after 6:00 p.m."

Sadly can't seem to trace this event :(
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: HatterJack on 10 February 2016, 22:31:22
That doesn't appear to fit the position of the moon - at 10:12pm 24 Sep 1909 local time at 21N, 160W (about 08:00am 25 Sep 1909 GMT), the moon was located to the SW the constellation of Capricornus, on the other side of the sky from Perseus which was in the NE!

I would suspect that it was perhaps a single large object breaking up from their description.

I'm surprised I didn't catch that! So not only would it have been several days after the usual end of the epsilon perseid shower, it came from entirely the wrong direction. I suspect that you're likely correct, and that it may have been a stray meteor breaking up in the atmosphere. Good catch!
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: HatterJack on 10 February 2016, 22:47:51
I say - that's some fine work folks! Great understanding of the night sky.

I found this in Wiki - I wonder if a few, upon seeing that celestial firework display, may not have been in fear for their lives until midnight:

"The world did not come to an end as scheduled. Led by Robert B. Swan, 300 members of the "Triune Immersionists" gathered in West Duxbury, Massachusetts, in anticipation of 10:00 a.m., when the crust of the Earth would peel off, destroying the wicked and permitting the righteous to survive. After 10:00 passed without incident, the prediction was revised to sometime within the 24 hours after 6:00 p.m."

Sadly can't seem to trace this event :(

Much to my surprise, the New York Times has an article about this on file! The actual event led by Swan occurred 25 September, 1909. I can only find a .pdf file, so I hope linking that is ok, but it is absolutely an interesting read. It happened the day *after* the sighting in the logbook, and would have taken a bit of organization prior to, so it's unlikely to be linked to the meteor breakup. Still a fascinating insight into human behavior, regardless.

http://query.nytimes.com/mem/archive-free/pdf?res=9F01E0DA1539E632A25755C2A96F9C946897D6CF (http://query.nytimes.com/mem/archive-free/pdf?res=9F01E0DA1539E632A25755C2A96F9C946897D6CF)
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: AvastMH on 11 February 2016, 14:16:53
Oh golly - I feel so sorry for those that liquidated all their assets in anticipation of the end - I hope it all worked out for them  :-\

I think we're OK with quotes from Newspapers in the US, copyright-wise.
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Dean on 13 February 2016, 16:59:58
Oh golly - I feel so sorry for those that liquidated all their assets in anticipation of the end - I hope it all worked out for them  :-\

I think we're OK with quotes from Newspapers in the US, copyright-wise.

I DO know we need to be careful with Copyrights, etc. But as one former Principal I worked with said 'Don't worry too much - there aren't enough jails to hold us all for Copyright violations.'   ::)   ;)
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Randi on 14 February 2016, 04:49:41
I'm no expert, but if we give a link to a publicly available document, I think we should be safe.
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Danny252 on 15 February 2016, 05:00:22
Although given the fact that the article is 110 years old and no author is given (i.e. it is anonymous), copyright should have expired on that article.
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Hurlock on 15 February 2016, 14:11:44
Albatross 10th August 1896 Nr Bering Island
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Albatross/vol028of055/vol028of055_045_1.jpg

Commences and until 4 am
At 1.35 heard off starboard beam sound which appeared to be a human call for help, stopped both engines and put helm hard a port, then backed starboard engine.  Shouted a number of times and heard the sound repeated close aboard, but saw nothing, decided was the cry of a seal, or some sea bird.  Went ahead again at 1.45. Saw a very large number of shooting stars.

From 8pm to Midnight
Saw a large number of shooting stars.

WR page for next day

Excessive refraction of horizon observed.
presumably when observing for location.
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: HatterJack on 19 February 2016, 07:15:01
http://classic.oldweather.org/transcribe/522f930868f4b84c29000003

Bright aurora borealis during second hour aboard the Albatross
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Randi on 19 February 2016, 15:51:59
HatterJack:
I copied your post to: Old Space Weather: sightings of aurorae and sunspots (http://forum.oldweather.org/index.php?topic=3670.0).
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: HatterJack on 19 February 2016, 23:30:34
Literally every time I find one, I forget to post it in both threads... One of these days I'll remember to do that :/
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Randi on 20 February 2016, 15:40:07
Literally every time I find one, I forget to post it in both threads... One of these days I'll remember to do that :/
No need to post aurorae here.
(No harm either ;))
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Hurlock on 21 February 2016, 13:38:35
Albatross 21st August 1896 Kuril Islands
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Albatross/vol028of055/vol028of055_056_1.jpg

at 5.50 passed through a body of water about 200 yards in diameter much smoother than the surrounding sea.
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: AvastMH on 21 February 2016, 13:49:12
I found this in: Ocean Currents: A Derivative of the Encyclopedia of Ocean Sciences (https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=FYSCUH235E8C&pg=PA365&lpg=PA365&dq=Kuril+Islands+trouble+with+sea+water+currents&source=bl&ots=1R7eALgxes&sig=H_x4-owUXRPiIHX2hmwNATW3N8s&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwj4k_qpwYnLAhUKXRoKHT-QAHIQ6AEILTAD#v=onepage&q=Kuril%20Islands%20trouble%20with%20sea%20water%20currents&f=false) makes interesting reading :)

(http://i.imgur.com/wTjWX3Q.png)
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Hurlock on 09 March 2016, 01:57:52
Albatross 21st September 1896 Off coast of Japan near Iwaki
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Albatross/vol028of055/vol028of055_087_1.jpg
At 1.40 sighted discolored water ahead on stb'd bow, changed course to S3/4E(psc), p log 2.6. At 1.50 entered discolored water and found temperature rose two degrees, the color of the water was a very light green, the boundary line was well defined.

The area is where a warm and cold current mix.  The wiki on the kuroshio current mentions these patches with concentrated phytoplankton and even has a satellite photo.
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Randi on 09 March 2016, 02:24:26
Sounds like you and the Albatross are having a fascinating voyage!
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Hurlock on 09 March 2016, 13:55:50
The ship suits me fine.  I did some Marine Biology at college and I used to read Alister Hardys book about all he found on the Discovery expedition.  The ships logs have lots of records of animal sightings and geographical phenomena.
This voyage has been a bit of a surprise to me as I was expecting it to follow the previous years routine and keep to the Bering Islands and collect lots of seal carcasses from the Sealing schooners she boarded.  Instead the Albatross has sailed down the Kuril Islands and is now sailing down the coast of Japan having picked up a (so far) nameless Japanese Naturalist.
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Danny252 on 10 March 2016, 05:07:30
The Albatross' sailing pattern was anything but routine, from what I can gather! Long distance expeditions took place when suitable funding was found, whilst at other times duties tended to follow whatever research topic was of interest - for example, it seems that sealing and salmon fisheries were quite a hot topic around the turn of the century.
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Bob on 31 March 2016, 07:21:34
USS Jamestown
Portsmouth, New Hampshire
August 16, 1858

From 8 to Mid.   Calm + clear. During the watch a partial appearance of the Aurora Borealis.

http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Jamestown/vol011of067/vol011of067_126_0.jpg (http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Jamestown/vol011of067/vol011of067_126_0.jpg)



Copied to: Old Space Weather: sightings of aurorae and sunspots
Randi
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Bob on 01 April 2016, 09:50:22
USS Jamestown
August 25, 1858
Portsmouth, New Hampshire


From 8 to Mid

From 9 to 11 Aurora borealis visible, presenting a soft + nebulous light of a yellowish hue.


(Portsmouth, NH, is at about the same latitude as Rome, Italy)

http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Jamestown/vol011of067/vol011of067_130_1.jpg



Copied to: Old Space Weather: sightings of aurorae and sunspots
Randi
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Hurlock on 03 April 2016, 07:37:24
27th October 1896 Albatross, East of Japan
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Albatross/vol028of055/vol028of055_123_1.jpg
Saw several meteors.
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Bob on 03 April 2016, 09:47:11
USS Jamestown
September 14, 1858
Portsmouth, New Hampshire

Commences
At 3.30 a comet bearing NNE, height 8o


http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Jamestown/vol011of067/vol011of067_140_1.jpg (http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Jamestown/vol011of067/vol011of067_140_1.jpg)
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Hurlock on 03 April 2016, 11:58:55
Donatis Comet was in that year. 
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Bob on 03 April 2016, 12:26:30
That was probably it. Looks like it was pretty impressive, thanks for the pointer!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comet_Donati (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comet_Donati)
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Hurlock on 03 April 2016, 12:53:15
30th October 1896 Albatross, North Pacific
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Albatross/vol028of055/vol028of055_126_1.jpg
Passed a discolored light green spot of water, about 20 feet in diameter.
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: AvastMH on 06 April 2016, 17:49:58
I'm posting this around in various places:
That's fascinating! I wonder if our friends on Zooniverse Kelp Forests would be interested? I'm guessing that all this history is known to them anyway. And it's what kelp is dong right now that is their focus.

Yes we are! We'd love to know anywhere in CA or Tazzie or other places that have kelp records. We've got some historical maps, and we're quite interested in looking at if historical beds still occur in the last 30 years. And putting our two projects together would be fantastic!

So do PLEASE record KELP from the logs in this discussion thread. Thank you  :D
I'll also drop this into Talk for the Whalers/OW5 ships :)
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Maikel on 09 April 2016, 03:25:21
U.S.S. Yorktown - At anchor off Siassi, Phillipines, and at sea.

10-05-1901 - 6 to 8 P.M.:
Comet sighted on port quarters at 6:55.
Disappeared at 7:43.

http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Yorktown/vol023of040/vol023of040_208_1.jpg (http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Yorktown/vol023of040/vol023of040_208_1.jpg)
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Hurlock on 21 April 2016, 01:42:31
Albatross December 1st 1896 Just East of Oahu
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Albatross/vol028of055/vol028of055_159_1.jpg
Saw several porpoises and several meteors.
Albatross December 9th 1896 Just SW of San Francisco
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Albatross/vol028of055/vol028of055_167_1.jpg
Saw several meteors.
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Maikel on 25 May 2016, 10:07:40
U.S.S. Yorktown - In dry dock, Uraga, Japan.

29-08-1901 - 4 to 8 P.M.:
At 6:55 felt quite a severe earthquake.
Examined the ship and dock and shores, immediately afterwards, and found all in good shape.

http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Yorktown/vol024of040/vol024of040_109_1.jpg (http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Yorktown/vol024of040/vol024of040_109_1.jpg)
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: HatterJack on 26 May 2016, 05:40:43
I can't actually find a record of this specific event, but I can't help but wonder if this was a particularly large aftershock of the monster quake (8.2) that hit off Honshu just 20 days before this. I checked the USGS database, and this isn't listed as a known earthquake.
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: AvastMH on 26 May 2016, 12:59:56
I can't actually find a record of this specific event, but I can't help but wonder if this was a particularly large aftershock of the monster quake (8.2) that hit off Honshu just 20 days before this. I checked the USGS database, and this isn't listed as a known earthquake.

Seems like a reasonable supposition to me Hatterjack. (I had a good look for it but couldn't find it mentioned either.)
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: jil on 14 June 2016, 15:14:47
Thetis - December 14th 1895 (http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Thetis/vol021of024/vol021_050_1.jpg)
4-8am watch. 8am location - 30 34N, 116 20W
Quote
Passed numerous patches of floating kelp during latter part.
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Randi on 14 June 2016, 15:33:32
Thanks! We do have someone interested in kelp.
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Bob on 25 June 2016, 08:56:37
USS Jamestown
June 29, 1861
33d35m30s N, 77d17m W, noon observation

At 11 [pm] Observed a Beautiful Blue Meteor shoot from an altitude of 20 to the Horizon, Bearing NNW
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Randi on 25 June 2016, 11:27:06
 8)
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: AvastMH on 25 June 2016, 15:30:11
 8) 8)
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Bob on 25 June 2016, 17:56:53
USS Jamestown
July 5, 1861
Off Tybee Island, Georgia

From 12 to 4.[AM]
Comet very brilliant

From 8 to Midnight.
At 11.50 A very brilliant meteor from S.S.E. to N.N.W.



http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Jamestown/vol014of067/vol014of067_018_1.jpg
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Hurlock on 26 June 2016, 01:34:04
Known as the great comet of 1861.  The Earth passed through its tail - maybe this accounts for the meteor sightings? 
It must have been very scary for the gathering troops of the U.S. Civil war as comets are traditionally seen as portents of doom.  This webpage has an account of it and quotes
http://civilwarwisconsin.com/campfire-stories/46-great-comet-of-1861.html

?We have been visited for a week past by a very large comet which at full day appears very bright and transparent; late at night the tail stretched nearly to the Zenith while the star was near the horizon.


Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: jil on 26 June 2016, 06:26:33
 8)
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: AvastMH on 26 June 2016, 07:40:06
 8)
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Bob on 26 June 2016, 09:32:16
 8) Thanks for the link!

Known as the great comet of 1861.  The Earth passed through its tail - maybe this accounts for the meteor sightings? 
It must have been very scary for the gathering troops of the U.S. Civil war as comets are traditionally seen as portents of doom.  This webpage has an account of it and quotes
http://civilwarwisconsin.com/campfire-stories/46-great-comet-of-1861.html
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Bob on 26 June 2016, 09:33:56
USS Jamestown
July 11, 1861
Off the coast of Georgia

Commences and until 4 A.M. Several meteors in different directions

http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Jamestown/vol014of067/vol014of067_021_1.jpg
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Randi on 26 June 2016, 10:51:11
Known as the great comet of 1861.  The Earth passed through its tail - maybe this accounts for the meteor sightings? 
...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comet#Connection_to_meteor_showers ;)
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: jil on 02 July 2016, 11:24:53
Thetis February 9th 1896 (http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Thetis/vol021of024/vol021_107_1.jpg) - off the coast of Lower California
Quote
6 to 8pm: Remarkable illumination of the western sky noticable (zodiacal light)
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: AvastMH on 02 July 2016, 13:29:03
Thetis February 9th 1896 (http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Thetis/vol021of024/vol021_107_1.jpg) - off the coast of Lower California
Quote
6 to 8pm: Remarkable illumination of the western sky noticable (zodiacal light)

Zodiacal Light (http://earthsky.org/astronomy-essentials/everything-you-need-to-know-zodiacal-light-or-false-dusk) is fascinating and beautiful. I'd love to see it (perhaps I have, but did not realize? )  :D
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Randi on 02 July 2016, 15:06:26
Interesting article
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Helen J on 13 August 2016, 12:57:36
Patterson records something interesting!

On May 9th 1891, having just arrived at Juneau, Alaska:

A party consisting of Dr Maudenhall Mr More and Ensign Poundstone went ashore with transit instrument and transit theodolite to observe the transit of Mercury over the sun.

http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USCS%20Patterson/Book%2048/IMG_9675_1.jpg
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Hurlock on 13 August 2016, 13:50:14
Possibly Dr. Thomas Corwin Mendenhall, formerly Superintendent of the Coast and Geodetic Survey
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Helen J on 13 August 2016, 13:53:24
That sounds very likely - thank you. 
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Maikel on 19 September 2016, 03:52:31
U.S.S. Yorktown - At sea between Cavite, Philippines, and Yokohama Japan.

23-04-1902 - Midnight to 4 A.M.:
At 3.21 Rock Island Light abeam, p.l. 49.5 distance 2.6 miles.
At 3.38 total eclipse of the moon.

http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Yorktown/vol025of040/vol025of040_243_1.jpg (http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Yorktown/vol025of040/vol025of040_243_1.jpg)
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: AvastMH on 19 September 2016, 17:58:37
Here's fun...see that eclipse happen... :D

http://www.timeanddate.com/eclipse/lunar/1902-april-22
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Maikel on 06 October 2016, 09:59:45
U.S.S. Yorktown

25-05-1902 - In Dry Dock, Uraga, Japan.

8 P.M. to Midnight:
At 8:32 and 9:08 the ship was shaken by heavy earthquake shocks.

http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Yorktown/vol025of040/vol025of040_315_1.jpg (http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Yorktown/vol025of040/vol025of040_315_1.jpg)

Edit: Corrected typo in place name.
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: studentforever on 06 October 2016, 12:39:18
That must have been a weird sensation. Glad I wasn't on board.
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: AvastMH on 06 October 2016, 12:46:58
I guess they must have been aware of tsunamis at that time so I wonder if they had a special loook out just in case a tsunami turned up?
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Michael on 18 October 2016, 14:24:18
01 June 1899 (http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USCS%20Patterson/Book%2082/IMG_2734_0.jpg), Patterson at San Francisco.

Quote
At 1121 felt an earth quake shock, about 4".

From San Francisco Earthquake history (http://www.sfmuseum.org/alm/quakes2.html)

Quote
June 1, 1899
People rushed to the streets in panic when the earthquake struck at 11:19 p.m. Many windows were broken South-of-Market and the clock at the Union Ferry Building stopped.
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Bob on 18 October 2016, 14:36:23
Wow.  :o

Maybe it's 4 degrees, though, like for ship roll angle?
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Michael on 18 October 2016, 14:45:40
Wow.  :o

Maybe it's 4 degrees, though, like for ship roll angle?

I have no idea what they meant. I just type what I see!   ;D
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: AvastMH on 18 October 2016, 15:12:27
Does it mean seconds? In which case time seconds, or distance seconds?  :-\
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: AvastMH on 18 October 2016, 15:23:03
Got it. It was time:

Sacramento Daily Union, Volume 97, Number 101, 2 June 1899

(http://i.imgur.com/l9dEOau.png)
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Michael on 18 October 2016, 15:51:35
My, but you are GOOD!
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: AvastMH on 18 October 2016, 17:17:13
Ah - but over here you'd be stuck because you can't get to old newspapers anywhere near so easily. It's the fun of being able to access so much fascinating info so easily across your side of the Pond :D
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Bob on 18 October 2016, 18:07:53
Ah, makes sense. Good find!
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Maikel on 03 November 2016, 09:00:09
U.S.S. Yorktown - On passage to Cavite, Philippines.

04-08-1902 - 4 to 8 A.M.:
From 4.05 to 4.20 steamed through and among many luminous spots on the sea from ten to fifteen feet in diameter; apparently caused by some disturbance under the water.

http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Yorktown/vol026of040/vol026of040_052_1.jpg (http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Yorktown/vol026of040/vol026of040_052_1.jpg)
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: AvastMH on 03 November 2016, 16:21:54
I remember seeing luminescence in the seas around Malta - bewitching sight  :D
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 03 November 2016, 16:47:32
Ah - but over here you'd be stuck because you can't get to old newspapers anywhere near so easily. It's the fun of being able to access so much fascinating info so easily across your side of the Pond :D

For my wife's 50th birthday I was able to obtain an original newspaper from the day she was born.
Interesting reading.
http://imgur.com/Lv1fe9g (http://imgur.com/Lv1fe9g)
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Michael on 03 November 2016, 18:10:48
Ah - but over here you'd be stuck because you can't get to old newspapers anywhere near so easily. It's the fun of being able to access so much fascinating info so easily across your side of the Pond :D

Before I left Whitehorse, I was transcribing weather data from the old logbooks from the White Pass and Yukon Railway system. (They had a full transportation system with trains from Skagway to Whitehorse and then river steamers that plied the rivers and lakes of Northern B.C. and the Yukon.) Here are reports from a particularly cold stretch in the Yukon:

Code: [Select]
Year    Month   Day     Station         Temp F  Temp C
1917    12      23      Whitehorse      -33     -36.1   North
1917    12      23      Carcross        -28.9   -41.7

1917    12      24      Whitehorse      -60     -51.1   Calm Foggy
1917    12      24      Carcross        -40.6   -51.2
1917    12      24      Lower Laberge   -65     -53.9   North Foggy
1917    12      24      Hootalinqua     -70     -56.7   Clear Calm
1917    12      24      Yukon Crossing  -72     -57.8   Calm Foggy
1917    12      24      Selkirk         -80     -62.2   Calm Foggy Report -86F at Pelly (-65.6 C.)
1917    12      24      Isaac Creek     -65     -53.9   Calm Foggy
1917    12      24      Stewart         -62     -52.2   Calm Foggy
1917    12      24      Dawson          -64     -53.3

1917    12      25      Whitehorse      -70     -56.7   Calm Foggy Thermometer at the barracks showed -79F last night
1917    12      25      Carcross        -41.1   -55.0

1917    12      26      Whitehorse      -66     -54.4   Calm Foggy
1917    12      26      Carcross        -51.2   -55.0

1917    12      27      Whitehorse      -58     -50.0   Calm Foggy Police thermometer showed -69F last night
1917    12      27      Carcross        -50.6   -55.0

1917    12      28      Whitehorse      -54     -47.8   Calm Foggy
1917    12      28      Carcross        -46.1   -52.2

1917    12      29      Whitehorse      -29     -33.9   Cloudy North Snowed 1 in. last night
1917    12      29      Carcross        -30.0   -49.4

The North American low temperature was -62.8 C set in Snag Yukon on 3 Feb. 1947
The temperature at the barracks in Whitehorse of -79F is equivalent to -61.7 C
The record low for Whitehorse is -52.2 C set on 31 January 1947


Here are two links to newspapers of the day. (Sadly, these weren't digitized at the time, so I had to dig through microfilmed archives. I then printed these portions, pasted them together and scanned them so I could have a digitized copy.) It makes you see why the Coast Survey vessels left Alaska for the winter! The Dawson paper isn't easy to read, but both excerpts are worthwhile, especially the Whitehorse paper for its language and style.

Dawson Daily News

(http://i.imgur.com/qEwEjdX.jpg?1)

Whitehorse Star

(http://i.imgur.com/k6Rz3qy.jpg?1)
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 03 November 2016, 21:39:37
Ah - but over here you'd be stuck because you can't get to old newspapers anywhere near so easily. It's the fun of being able to access so much fascinating info so easily across your side of the Pond :D

Not directly with OW but from a local paper I have dated 23 April 1872 (yes the papers are slow to be delivered here.)   ;D
Destructive Whirlwind Grey Mouth New Zealand.   :o
http://imgur.com/rlfc2dF (http://imgur.com/rlfc2dF)
http://imgur.com/UoRVAve (http://imgur.com/UoRVAve)
http://imgur.com/qrjMgGj (http://imgur.com/qrjMgGj)
http://imgur.com/ESImFWb (http://imgur.com/ESImFWb)

Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 03 November 2016, 21:57:54
Weather NSW 20 April 1872.

Much the same as we get now.

http://imgur.com/CTY3aT9 (http://imgur.com/CTY3aT9)
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Dean on 25 December 2016, 10:58:20
HMS Leviathan 3 February 1916

http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ADM_53-46568/ADM%2053-46568-004_1.jpg

10.00am: Observed the commencement of eclipse of the sun
11.15am: Approximately maximum eclipse
12.40pm: Eclipse terminated


Mods: Feel free to move and or duplicate  ;)
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Randi on 25 December 2016, 13:13:08
 :)
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: AvastMH on 26 December 2016, 09:55:59
And here it is:

(http://i.imgur.com/xrFJ5qx.png)

Interestingly: (http://adsabs.harvard.edu/full/1916PASP...28..247P)

(http://i.imgur.com/jhPpjqq.png)
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: propriome on 17 February 2017, 14:44:12
Unalga I, 31 August 1932 (http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Unalga//Volumes/Seagate%20Backup%20Plus%20Drive/Arfon-JPEGS/RG26/UNALGA//b2589/b2589_182_1.jpg), while cruising around Bimini area:

Quote
Meridian to 4:00PM.
...
3:10 Observed partial eclipse of the sun.
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: AvastMH on 07 June 2017, 17:33:03
Bear. 8PM-Mid., 1914-09-16, Nome Alaska
https://catalog.archives.gov/OpaAPI/media/23695631/content/dc-metro/rg-026/585454/0002/Bear-b355/Bear-b355_0316.JPG

'Observed bright comet about 8 degrees south and west of the star Beta Ursae Majoris.'

(I couldn't trace any information about this meteor  :-\)
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Hurlock on 07 June 2017, 19:06:45
Possibly Comet Delavan.
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: AvastMH on 08 June 2017, 15:45:55
Could be Hurlock - thanks so much for tracking that down. Yesterday I kept getting search responses based on world war one. Very frustrating.

Thanks again! :D
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: AvastMH on 12 June 2017, 15:45:20
Bear 24th September 1914 (https://catalog.archives.gov/OpaAPI/media/23695631/content/dc-metro/rg-026/585454/0002/Bear-b355/Bear-b355_0326.JPG)

Mid to 4 AM
Observed much phosphorescence on water.

Position at 3:40AM King Island, abeam 6.0 miles
King Island = Lat, 64.98 Long,-168.06
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: AvastMH on 12 June 2017, 17:41:41
Bear, 1914-09-27 (https://catalog.archives.gov/OpaAPI/media/23695631/content/dc-metro/rg-026/585454/0002/Bear-b355/Bear-b355_0329.JPG)
8PM Mid.
Observed much phosphorescence in water.

Position at 8 PM: 61 degrees 57 minutes North, 171 degrees 38 minutes West
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Randi on 12 June 2017, 20:19:12
Don't forget that that can go under "Other" "Ocean/Seaweed/Plankton" ;)
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Michael on 06 November 2017, 15:22:23
From USCG Cutter Northland, 12 July 1938 (https://catalog.archives.gov/OpaAPI/media/7284540/content/arcmedia/dc-metro/rg-026/585454-noaa/159a/northland/b1730/26-159a-northland-b1730_020.jpg)

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At 5:30, in Lat. 67o 27'N, long. 167o 40'W entered area of local magnetic disturbance and determined the magnetic variation to be 9-00E, by sun azimuth, gyro compass, and flying-bridge magnetic compass. Similarly in Lat. 67o 18'N Long 167o 50'W magnetic variation is 7o-00E, and in Lat 67o 07'N, Long 167o 55'W magnetic variation is 10o-00E.

That's the first time I've seen that.
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Michael on 09 November 2017, 13:35:16
From USGC Cutter Northland, 8 September 1940 (https://catalog.archives.gov/OpaAPI/media/7284544/content/arcmedia/dc-metro/rg-026/585454-noaa/159a/northland/b1734/26-159a-northland-b1734_097.jpg)

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1845 - Measured height of ice berg off Disko Island (69.75,  -53.50) by means of four point bearings, distance abeam and sextant angle. Height so measured was 404.6 feet.

That's a fair chunk of ice, especially considering that only 10% of it is above water, if it's floating, that is.
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Randi on 09 November 2017, 13:50:39
For more details...
Quote from: https://www.navcen.uscg.gov/?pageName=iipHowMuchOfAnIcebergIsBelowTheWater
About 7/8ths of an iceberg is below the water line. This figure is approximate. Although icebergs are similar, not all are the same. Varying factors are iceberg density, water density etc. Keep in mind we are talking about an iceberg's mass. Due to irregular iceberg shapes, icebergs may have varying heights out of the water, but mass is relatively consistent.
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 11 February 2018, 19:32:24
Not sure if this goes here (if indeed anywhere)

0208hrs Sighted Unidentified and intense flash of light in the sky Brg 210T Dist 8 miles

https://catalog.archives.gov/OpaAPI/media/38547996/content/dc-metro/rg-026/587169/2017-01/storis-wmec-38-1944/storis-wmec-38-1944_0465.JPG (https://catalog.archives.gov/OpaAPI/media/38547996/content/dc-metro/rg-026/587169/2017-01/storis-wmec-38-1944/storis-wmec-38-1944_0465.JPG)
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Randi on 11 February 2018, 20:49:03
I'd say: Here is good!
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Randi on 21 February 2018, 22:54:55
Please note kelp for Dr Jarrett Byrnes of the Floating Forests Science Team

Floating Forests (https://blog.oldweather.org/2015/09/22/floating-forests/)
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Maikel on 05 April 2018, 07:21:53
25-10-1911 - At anchor, Corinto, Nicaragua.

Commences and until 4 A.M.:
A large comet was seen, bearing about east, altitude at about 25o; head toward horizon.

http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Yorktown/vol035of040/vol035of040_194_1.jpg (http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Yorktown/vol035of040/vol035of040_194_1.jpg)
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Randi on 05 April 2018, 09:37:55
I wonder if that was Comet Brooks
http://www.skyandtelescope.com/sky-and-telescope-magazine/beyond-the-printed-page/the-greatest-comets-of-the-past-century/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/C/1911_O1
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: AvastMH on 05 April 2018, 18:21:53
Sounds impressive. If it was Brooks we won't be seeing it - orbital period about 1900 years. :)
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Maikel on 06 April 2018, 09:42:33
01-11-1911 - At anchor, Corinto, Nicaragua.

Additional to Ship's Log.
Commences and until 4:00 a.m., (additional).
A slight earthquake shock was felt ashore about 4:00 a.m.

http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Yorktown/vol035of040/vol035of040_202_1.jpg (http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Yorktown/vol035of040/vol035of040_202_1.jpg)
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 08 May 2018, 21:43:43
Eastwind 24-03-1948
0105, Sighted bright (something) of falling stars or green Very's light about 040T, disappearing at an altitude of about 20 degrees. Further search negative.
https://catalog.archives.gov/OpaAPI/media/24337416/content/dc-metro/rg-026/559642/0001-A1/Eastwind-WAG-279-1948/Eastwind-WAG-279-1948_0112.JPG (https://catalog.archives.gov/OpaAPI/media/24337416/content/dc-metro/rg-026/559642/0001-A1/Eastwind-WAG-279-1948/Eastwind-WAG-279-1948_0112.JPG)

Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Randi on 08 May 2018, 22:11:42
Maybe: "bright green falling star" ?

Sounds fairly dramatic.
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Danny252 on 09 May 2018, 09:51:51
I saw a very similar event myself a year or two back - I think it was around Halloween/Bonfire Night, so I initially assumed it was a firework, given how bright and green it was!

It seems such events aren't uncommon, as Google has picked up a lot of news reports of another similar event in the UK around New Year 2017/18. I'm sure a chemist could tell us which element or compound gives of the brilliant green light...
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Randi on 09 May 2018, 10:00:10
Well, they do mention the possibility of it being a Very pistol flare...
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 09 May 2018, 16:55:14
To answer Dannys Joans question, "I'm sure a chemist could tell us which element or compound gives of the brilliant green light..."
See

http://earthsky.org/human-world/how-do-fireworks-get-their-vibrant-colors (http://earthsky.org/human-world/how-do-fireworks-get-their-vibrant-colors)
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Randi on 22 June 2018, 22:31:47
Aurora mention moved to Old Space Weather: sightings of aurorae and sunspots
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Hurlock on 15 July 2018, 02:25:22
July 2nd 1895 Bear.  arriving at Port Clarence
https://catalog.archives.gov/OpaAPI/media/6919220/content/arcmedia/dc-metro/rg-026/585454-noaa/bear/vol076/26-159A-bear-vol076_073.jpg
Mirage to N'rd + E'st'd, saw several at anchor in Port Clarence Harbor.
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Michael on 15 July 2018, 11:11:57
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Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: jd570b on 25 July 2018, 16:40:14
Revenue Steamer Bear
General vicinity of Petropavlovsk Kamchatski (53.044  4158.65076)

1899-06-23
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11:00 PM
     Eastern disk of moon entered earths shadow
https://catalog.archives.gov/OpaAPI/media/6919225/content/arcmedia/dc-metro/rg-026/585454-noaa/bear/vol081/26-159A-bear-vol081_055.jpg

1899-06-24
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2:45 AM
     Moon emerged from earths shadow.
https://catalog.archives.gov/OpaAPI/media/6919225/content/arcmedia/dc-metro/rg-026/585454-noaa/bear/vol081/26-159A-bear-vol081_056.jpg
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: AvastMH on 25 July 2018, 16:54:54
Thank you! :)
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: AvastMH on 04 August 2018, 15:09:37
Found this purely by co-incidence in the British Columbia Pilot Vol. 2, 1920 from United States Hydrographic Office (http://archive.org/details/britishcolumbia01offigoog) pp261

Mention of kelp being seen in the area of Skelu Inlet next to Hippa Island
Hippa Point
Canada CA ? British Columbia 02 ? Skeena-Queen Charlotte Regional District 5947
53.52346, -132.95974

(https://i.imgur.com/X1j38xH.png)

Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Hurlock on 08 August 2018, 02:44:34
Bear 3rd September 1895 Nr. St. Michaels Alaska
https://catalog.archives.gov/OpaAPI/media/6919220/content/arcmedia/dc-metro/rg-026/585454-noaa/bear/vol076/26-159A-bear-vol076_137.jpg
Observed total eclipse of the moon between 9 and 11pm.
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: AvastMH on 13 August 2018, 11:49:23
Bear 1894 May 22 (https://catalog.archives.gov/OpaAPI/media/6919218/content/arcmedia/dc-metro/rg-026/585454-noaa/bear/vol075/26-159A-bear-vol075_036.jpg)
4-8 PM
Captain Humphries of the Cannery visited Comd'g officer. Loaned 250lbs cannon powder to Pacific Steam Whaling Co. on request, for purpose of blasting ice in Copper River, in order to reach their cannery.
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 24 August 2018, 02:29:45
Corwin 20 May 1884, Ounalaska, Alaska.

10AM, had very sensible shock of earthquake.
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: jd570b on 24 September 2018, 16:21:41
Revenue Cutter Bear
1899-09-12
Bering Sea

8AM to Merid
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Noticed considerable -drift wood near vessel first part of watch.
https://catalog.archives.gov/OpaAPI/media/6919225/content/arcmedia/dc-metro/rg-026/585454-noaa/bear/vol081/26-159A-bear-vol081_137.jpg

I am posting this as speculation.

There were four strong earthquakes in 1899.  Yakutat Bay earthquake occurred on September 10 and was felt 600 miles from Yakutat Bay.  It was estimated at between 7.0 to 8.0 and had a vertical lift of just under 50 feet in places.  I don?t know if the driftwood was a result of this earthquake.  Maybe coincidence, maybe not.  Strong aftershocks were felt for some distance away.  However, I haven?t found any records speaking directly to it being felt in Nome.

https://devastatingdisasters.com/yakutat-earthquake-alaska-september-10-1899/
https://www.gi.alaska.edu/alaska-science-forum/shaky-september-yakutat-bay
http://adsabs.harvard.edu/abs/2012AGUFMNH14A..06G
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Randi on 24 September 2018, 16:35:53
Interesting!
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: AvastMH on 24 September 2018, 18:26:12
I'm guessing that a lot of that driftwood would have had a fair bit of greenery attached to it still, as only some of it would have been old timber?  :-\
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: jd570b on 03 October 2018, 17:07:52
I'm guessing that a lot of that driftwood would have had a fair bit of greenery attached to it still, as only some of it would have been old timber?  :-\

Fair point.  I had not seen mention of a lot of driftwood in the ship's logs before and thought it unusual.  Especially with an earth-shake of that magnitude happening within a few days of the sighting.  But as I said, it's pure speculation and I can find no mention of anyone in that end of Alaska feeling it.  ;)
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: AvastMH on 03 October 2018, 18:34:49
I'm guessing that a lot of that driftwood would have had a fair bit of greenery attached to it still, as only some of it would have been old timber?  :-\

Fair point.  I had not seen mention of a lot of driftwood in the ship's logs before and thought it unusual.  Especially with an earth-shake of that magnitude happening within a few days of the sighting.  But as I said, it's pure speculation and I can find no mention of anyone in that end of Alaska feeling it.  ;)

Yep - I guess that's the problem with Alaska - so few people to report its events  :-\
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Randi on 07 February 2019, 16:17:15
31 May, 1907
52o 53' 54'' N, 163o 00' 28" W

12:50 passed a small bunch of drift kelp

https://catalog.archives.gov/OpaAPI/media/7284567/content/arcmedia/dc-metro/rg-026/585454-noaa/159a/thetis/vol611/26-159A-thetis-vol611_167.jpg
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Hurlock on 11 February 2019, 01:02:02
Bear 14th September 1913 Nome Roadstead
https://catalog.archives.gov/OpaAPI/media/6919264/content/arcmedia/dc-metro/rg-026/585454-noaa/bear/vol108/26-159A-bear-vol108_082.jpg
moon entered earth's umbra at commencement of total lunar eclipse
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Michael on 03 July 2019, 20:16:25
Rodgers, 24 October 1881, 65.64, -170.87

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At 3:20 saw a very vivid Meteor in the Nd and Wd.

https://catalog.archives.gov/OpaAPI/media/23665858/content/dc-metro/rg-024/581208/0002/Rodgers-b001of10/Rodgers-b001of10_0152.JPG
Title: Re: Natural Phenomena
Post by: Michael on 16 July 2019, 18:31:54
Bear, August 7, 1923.

https://catalog.archives.gov/OpaAPI/media/23699428/content/dc-metro/rg-026/585454/0002/Bear-b361-1923/Bear-b361-1923_0449.JPG


2130: School house at Icy Cape visible on starboard beam in mirage, approximate distance 12 miles.