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Title: Chat - 2018
Post by: jil on 01 January 2018, 03:17:50
Happy New Year to all!
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Post by: studentforever on 01 January 2018, 04:14:17
Happy New Year
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Post by: AvastMH on 01 January 2018, 06:44:11
Happy New Year to everyone now that we've all made it there.  Well done Michael for topping us out, thanks Stuart for starting us off ;)


 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Post by: Craig on 01 January 2018, 07:14:34
Happy New Year, everyone!
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Post by: Dean on 01 January 2018, 10:45:59
A wonder filled New Year to all!!

Be Blessed and Safe.
  ;)
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Post by: Hanibal94 on 01 January 2018, 11:29:21
Happy New Year everybody!
Here's to our triumphs in 2017, and to more in the coming year!
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Post by: Randi on 01 January 2018, 12:07:08
Why the new year starts on Jan. 1 (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2015/12/31/why-the-new-year-starts-on-january-1-a-terrible-time-for-renewal/?utm_term=.c569f13db368)

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Along with the American colonies, Britain used the Julian calendar and observed New Year's Day on March 25, Lady Day, also known as the Feast of the Annunciation. It wasn't until 1752 when the Brits gave in to the Gregorian calendar and changed the New Year's Day to Jan. 1.
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Post by: Thursday Next on 01 January 2018, 14:48:40
Happy New Year to everyone!
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Post by: Michael on 01 January 2018, 15:13:48
Happy New Year everyone.

I didn't hear any bad news from all you who got to January 1 before me, so I decided to come along for the ride.  ;)
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Post by: Dean on 03 January 2018, 10:04:52
Happy New Year everyone.

I didn't hear any bad news from all you who got to January 1 before me, so I decided to come along for the ride.  ;)

 ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Randi on 03 January 2018, 11:20:56
Pittsburgh, PA: It's cold, yes. But it's not that cold (http://www.post-gazette.com/local/region/2018/01/02/It-s-cold-yes-but-it-s-not-that-cold-pittsburgh-record-cold-freezing-1994/stories/201801020133)
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Post by: Kevin on 03 January 2018, 16:13:10
http://usnhistory.navylive.dodlive.mil/2017/12/28/the-navys-tradition-of-the-new-years-day-deck-log/

What is the earliest New Year's Day logbook poem that has been found by OW so far?
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Randi on 03 January 2018, 22:33:37
Thanks for posting that article!



I don't know what the earliest one is.

A quick search gave me: https://catalog.archives.gov/OpaAPI/media/12102439/content/arcmedia/dc-metro/594258-navy-deck-logs/00003/burton-island-agb-1-1953-01/burton-island-agb-1-1953-01-0007.jpg
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Randi on 04 January 2018, 14:22:29
Check out http://forum.oldweather.org/index.php?topic=16.msg148978#msg148978
 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: AvastMH on 04 January 2018, 17:48:32
Thanks for posting that article!



I don't know what the earliest one is.

A quick search gave me: https://catalog.archives.gov/OpaAPI/media/12102439/content/arcmedia/dc-metro/594258-navy-deck-logs/00003/burton-island-agb-1-1953-01/burton-island-agb-1-1953-01-0007.jpg

I think that I saw another poem, but it may not have been for New Year. I'll see if I can find something over the weekend :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: AvastMH on 04 January 2018, 17:48:53
Check out http://forum.oldweather.org/index.php?topic=16.msg148978#msg148978
 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 06 January 2018, 23:36:12
If anybody needs a break from the cold weather of Ice Hunting, come to my place. 34.4792? S, 150.4181? E
Currently 42.5C on my veranda and has risen 2C in the last hour.

Penrith (west of Sydney) beat its record by 0.1C 0.3C at 47.1C just now 47.3C @ 15:00.

P.S. Just bought my first Hot Cross Buns for this season.
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: jil on 07 January 2018, 04:23:01
:o I just can't imagine 42.5, I have to go and lie down in a darkened room when it gets near to 30C. -3C here this morning and looking pretty and frosty, definitely prefer that.

On the plus side, presumably you could toast your hot cross bun on the veranda!
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Craig on 07 January 2018, 07:38:57
Meanwhile, we currently have -31 C. We might get up slightly above zero on Thursday. With the windchill factor yesterday it it was -38 C during the day. Needless to say, I didn't go out for a walk.
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Post by: studentforever on 07 January 2018, 10:39:02
We've just had a couple of lovely bright days with the temp below zero. During the day only just below and since the roads were dry when the frost came it is actually quite pleasant for those of us who can afford the right food, clothing and enough heating. My commiserations to those whose conditions are so much more challenging.
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Michael on 07 January 2018, 11:31:45
If anybody needs a break from the cold weather of Ice Hunting, come to my place. 34.4792? S, 150.4181? E
Currently 42.5C on my veranda and has risen 2C in the last hour.

Penrith (west of Sydney) beat its record by 0.1C 0.3C at 47.1C just now 47.3C @ 15:00.

P.S. Just bought my first Hot Cross Buns for this season.

Your position puts you at the Three Wise Monkeys. Which one are you?  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 07 January 2018, 17:22:29
All of them.
If you want to be spot on try
-34.473396, 150.4235823
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 07 January 2018, 19:32:54
Not sure how or where to report this entry.   ;D

1115 A homing pigeon, serial no L-54-AU-52-Compton 601 landed on board, Lat 34-20N, Long 120-12.5

No mention of it leaving.  ???
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Randi on 08 January 2018, 08:47:34
Happy Birthday
to
Kathy


(https://i.pinimg.com/736x/11/bc/b2/11bcb20ea3248dedb67f07c9996c696c.jpg)
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Hurlock on 08 January 2018, 09:10:49
Not sure how or where to report this entry.   ;D

1115 A homing pigeon, serial no L-54-AU-52-Compton 601 landed on board, Lat 34-20N, Long 120-12.5

No mention of it leaving.  ???

AU is the code for the american racing pigeon union.  52 is probably the year the bird was banded.  Compton would be the pigeon racing club and 601 probably the number for the individual bird.  Don't know what the other two codes are.
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Randi on 08 January 2018, 09:28:45
Not sure how or where to report this entry.   ;D

1115 A homing pigeon, serial no L-54-AU-52-Compton 601 landed on board, Lat 34-20N, Long 120-12.5

No mention of it leaving.  ???

AU is the code for the american racing pigeon union.  52 is probably the year the bird was banded.  Compton would be the pigeon racing club and 601 probably the number for the individual bird.  Don't know what the other two codes are.

Thanks, Hurlock!

Building on Hurlock's work:
Compton, California is not too far away: 33 53 48 N 118 13 30 W
and
it has homing pigeons: https://www.facebook.com/pages/Compton-Homing-Pigeon-Club/111476085551615 !
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Kathy on 08 January 2018, 09:44:46
THANK YOU VERY MUCH!

I really thought the Cowboys had a shot at the playoffs this year...

How is everybody here? One of my New Year resolutions is to pick up my keyboard again.
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: jil on 08 January 2018, 09:49:00
Happy Birthday, Kathy!
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Helen J on 08 January 2018, 10:43:33
Good to see you here, Kathy.  Hope you can keep your New Year resolution  ;D.
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Post by: Michael on 08 January 2018, 13:22:59
Good to see you here, Kathy.  Hope you can keep your New Year resolution  ;D.

Yes, and Happy Birthday from me, too!  :) :) :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Craig on 08 January 2018, 13:33:16
Hi Kathy. Happy birthday. Are you still 111?  ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 08 January 2018, 15:07:35
Craig, sometimes you come out with some very Binary comments.  ::)

Happy Birthday Kathy
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Craig on 08 January 2018, 16:46:28
Actually, I was using base 8, Stuart ;D
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Post by: Caro on 08 January 2018, 17:22:02
Happy birthday Kathy.
Fancy seeing you here.  ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 08 January 2018, 17:36:15
 :-[
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Kathy on 09 January 2018, 12:21:20
hahaha - yes, I'm still 111 (if it was good enough for Bilbo, it is good enough for me :) )

Thank you all for the birthday wishes -
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Michael on 09 January 2018, 18:09:17
It was snowing the Sahara Desert (http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/africa/sahara-desert-snow-storm-climate-algeria-ain-sefra-africa-weather-latest-a8149226.html) just recently. More proof that Global Warming is a hoax!  ;)  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Dean on 09 January 2018, 19:13:13
Dear Kathy:

(https://i.imgur.com/mtV7DWE.jpg)
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: AvastMH on 09 January 2018, 20:46:49
A very happy, if a little belated, birthday Kathy  ;D ;D ;D

(https://i.imgur.com/BrIH2NR.png)
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Randi on 10 January 2018, 09:36:09
Happy Birthday
to
Michael


(https://i.pinimg.com/564x/f1/e6/27/f1e6276ec96f214a1a920d6af25cb804.jpg)

Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: jil on 10 January 2018, 11:27:16
Happy Birthday, Michael!

(Great cake)
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Post by: Caro on 10 January 2018, 12:24:33
Happy birthday Michael

:)
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Post by: Michael on 10 January 2018, 12:33:14
Thank you all. And that darn Toby Cat, he just loves walking through icing.  ;D ;D ;D
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Post by: Helen J on 10 January 2018, 12:48:58
Happy birthday, Michael.  Glad to see Toby Cat has been suitably honoured too ....
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Post by: Pommy Stuart on 10 January 2018, 13:17:27
Happy Birthday Michael.
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Post by: Kathy on 10 January 2018, 16:41:57
Thanks for the additional wishes and song - and Happy Birthday to Michael! (January babies rule!)
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Post by: Michael on 10 January 2018, 17:40:45
Thanks for the additional wishes and song - and Happy Birthday to Michael! (January babies rule!)

They do!!!!
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: AvastMH on 10 January 2018, 19:08:32
And a very happy birthday from me too Michael!  Great Toby cake! :D :D :D
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Post by: Bob on 10 January 2018, 19:54:34
Happy Birthday, Michael!
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Post by: Craig on 10 January 2018, 20:00:22
All the best, Michael!
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Post by: Michael on 10 January 2018, 20:07:17
Thank you one and all!
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Dean on 11 January 2018, 13:11:45
To Michael:

(https://i.imgur.com/HXKEJUZ.jpg)
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Michael on 11 January 2018, 13:37:23
(https://i.imgur.com/1ve7ZMN.jpg)

Thank you    ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Helen J on 12 January 2018, 10:58:10
Ooh, semaphore!  I remember learning it at Brownies.  Unfortunately I only got as far as H, which wouldn't have been a lot of assistance in an emergency - I couldn't send 'Help' or 'SOS'. 
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Kevin on 14 January 2018, 10:00:51
I had to learn flashing light for my merchant marine officers license, but only used it to bother junior Coast Guard officers when we'd see a cutter on interdiction patrol. Actually, never did get a flashing light response...

http://www.videotime.com/videos/morse_code_flashing_light
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: AvastMH on 15 January 2018, 18:31:32
I'd be terrible on any of those systems. Especially the flashing lights. I'd be wanting them to go back over it in case I blinked and missed a flash :D  I guess I would at least be good at the following letter sequence... p l e a s e   r e p e a t   ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 15 January 2018, 19:37:56
AGN PLS 

.-   --.   -.       .--.   .-..   ...

 ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: AvastMH on 16 January 2018, 18:24:02
 ;D ;D ;D  I've got no excuses now have I Stuart?

I wonder if you could knit an really interesting Fair Isle sweater with a secret message in it made up of groups of different colour stitches. Not quite sure how that fell into my head - but it did  ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Craig on 16 January 2018, 20:25:11
You could be in the pink of creativity by doing the following:

Good for you. You figured it out
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Post by: Randi on 19 January 2018, 00:18:32
In the Great Lakes, They're Battling Ice, and Time. Take a Look. (https://www.nytimes.com/2018/01/18/us/great-lakes-ships.html)

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SAULT STE. MARIE, Mich. -- An intricate boat ballet plays out each January on the frigid waters of the northern Great Lakes.
Thousand-foot freighters scramble to make final deliveries of iron ore to steel mills. The Coast Guard carves paths through ice-clogged shipping routes. And the Soo Locks, the engineering marvel connecting Lake Superior with points to the south and east, shut down for 10 weeks of maintenance while the weather is at its most brutal.
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Caro on 19 January 2018, 04:16:04
 :o Amazing videos and pics.



I posted the link below in the Editorial Office at Christmas.
If you are into (US) lighthouses, this Twitter account is unbeatable:
https://twitter.com/BestLighthouses
The Umatilla Lightship is in there somewhere.
And you don't need a Twitter account.  :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Caro on 21 January 2018, 04:45:16
(https://memegenerator.net/img/instances/500x/81144822/happy-birthday-maikel.jpg)

 ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: jil on 21 January 2018, 05:55:16
Happy Birthday, Maikel!
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Post by: Hanibal94 on 21 January 2018, 07:41:28
Happy Birthday from me too, Maikel!

Hope you get to do something fun.
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Post by: Bob on 21 January 2018, 09:02:38
Happy Birthday, Maikel!
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Post by: Helen J on 21 January 2018, 09:18:31
Happy birthday, Maikel!  Hope you can have a bit of time off Plotting and all your other OW responsibilities.
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Randi on 21 January 2018, 09:41:28
Happy Birthday
to
Maikel


(https://i.pinimg.com/736x/8e/2b/da/8e2bdadd2cb37c42b64e6e2289d303ea.jpg)
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Michael on 21 January 2018, 10:48:41
Happy Birthday Maikel!  Another January baby!!!  Whoopee!  :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Thursday Next on 21 January 2018, 13:12:02
Happy Birthday, Maikel!
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Post by: lollia paolina on 21 January 2018, 13:52:35
Hartelijk gefeliciteerd, Maikel! :)
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Post by: AvastMH on 21 January 2018, 18:42:41
Happy Birthday Genuis Maikel

(https://i.imgur.com/RZbQ2qs.png)
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Maikel on 22 January 2018, 03:01:34
Thank you all. :D
I see you're all very happy with the knowledge I'm one year closer to my grave.  ;) :P
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: studentforever on 22 January 2018, 04:58:52
Vintage wines & cars get more valuable with age!!
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: AvastMH on 22 January 2018, 16:24:11
Vintage wines & cars get more valuable with age!!

Exactly - celebrate your increasing age!  ;) ;) ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Craig on 22 January 2018, 19:16:48
It sounds like this is one journey that Maikel is reluctant to plot.  :D
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 22 January 2018, 19:29:52
No probs there Craig, Michael (the other one) will plot it for him.   ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Michael on 22 January 2018, 19:34:57
Not me. I have to plot every hour and, with Maikel living to a ripe and very old age, it would keep me busy for ages.  ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 22 January 2018, 21:58:49
Lets hope he does not get to ripe just old

Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Michael on 23 January 2018, 10:30:09
Well, we just dodged the big one. There was a 7.9 magnitude earthquake near Chiniak, Alaska (http://www.geonames.org/5859247/chiniak-island.html) which triggered tsunami warnings along the west coast. Fortunately no big wave was generated. Also, on a personal note, we live at an elevation of 76 metres, so there is no risk of a tsunami reaching us.  :)

Sirens in the tsunami zone went off, and text alerts were sent to mobile phones. Also, emergency personnel such as fire fighters and police went door to door in some of the areas that were most vulnerable.

All this excitement, and we slept right through it!

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/alaska-earthquake-tsunami-1.4499558
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: jil on 23 January 2018, 11:36:51
 :o
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Helen J on 23 January 2018, 12:02:26
I saw the news about the earthquake, Michael, but hadn't realised the warnings had reached as far as you.  Glad to hear that you slept peacefully through it all, and are high enough not to need to worry.
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: AvastMH on 23 January 2018, 16:22:44
Very relieved to hear that you are safe Michael, and that the shores of your homeland are dry :D
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Hanibal94 on 24 January 2018, 14:05:14
Earlier today, I found out that Firefox has released a LOT of security patches:
https://www.theregister.co.uk/2018/01/24/mozilla_firefox_security_updates/

I highly recommend upgrading, even if you don't use Firefox most of the time.
To upgrade, click on the main menu (for me, it's in the upper right corner), click on "Help" and choose "About Firefox".
That starts the updating process.

But first, make sure you're not busy writing a forum post or anything, as you will have to restart Firefox to complete the installation.
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Randi on 24 January 2018, 14:39:22
Thanks for the warning!
I'll do it as soon as I save this post ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: AvastMH on 24 January 2018, 17:56:49
Thank you hanibal - I use it a fair bit so I'll get sorted with the patches :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Helen J on 25 January 2018, 07:38:33
Thanks for this, hanibal - I use Firefox all the time, so did it straight away.
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Hanibal94 on 25 January 2018, 13:38:44
You're welcome, everyone!

Also: Google just released version 64 of Chrome, which includes security patches for Meltdown and Spectre, plus better protection from malware disguised as ads.
Upgrading is as simple as with Firefox: Open the main menu, (for me, it's in the upper right corner), click on "Help" and choose "About Google Chrome".
That starts the update process.

I just installed it, and again, I highly recommend everybody who has Chrome do it too, even if it's not your main browser.
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Randi on 25 January 2018, 14:32:40
Doing now - even though it's not my main browser.
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Randi on 25 January 2018, 16:23:57
Storm waves moved this 620-ton boulder, scientists say -- a stunning testament to the ocean's power (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/energy-environment/wp/2018/01/23/storm-waves-moved-this-620-ton-boulder-researchers-say-a-stunning-new-testament-to-the-oceans-power/)
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: AvastMH on 25 January 2018, 16:57:18
You're welcome, everyone!

Also: Google just released version 64 of Chrome, which includes security patches for Meltdown and Spectre, plus better protection from malware disguised as ads.
Upgrading is as simple as with Firefox: Open the main menu, (for me, it's in the upper right corner), click on "Help" and choose "About Google Chrome".
That starts the update process.

I just installed it, and again, I highly recommend everybody who has Chrome do it too, even if it's not your main browser.

Thanks hanibal, I think I got it updated - something happened anyway  ::)  :D
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: AvastMH on 25 January 2018, 17:00:15
Storm waves moved this 620-ton boulder, scientists say -- a stunning testament to the ocean's power (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/energy-environment/wp/2018/01/23/storm-waves-moved-this-620-ton-boulder-researchers-say-a-stunning-new-testament-to-the-oceans-power/)

I'm going to hang up my beach ball, spade and bucket after that  :o :o :o
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Hanibal94 on 28 January 2018, 12:47:06
The island that switches countries every six months (http://www.bbc.com/news/stories-42817859)
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Randi on 28 January 2018, 13:22:36
8)

Faisans is French for pheasants.
When I looked it up to double check that, I discovered that it is also slang for crook.
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: AvastMH on 28 January 2018, 17:21:33
 8) 8)

I presume that changing to Euros saved a lot of paper shuffling every 6 months! :D
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Randi on 30 January 2018, 00:13:34
Fake followers for sale...
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2018/01/27/technology/social-media-bots.html
::) :'(
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Hanibal94 on 31 January 2018, 13:38:27
Earlier today, I found out that Firefox has released a LOT of security patches:
https://www.theregister.co.uk/2018/01/24/mozilla_firefox_security_updates/

I highly recommend upgrading, even if you don't use Firefox most of the time.
To upgrade, click on the main menu (for me, it's in the upper right corner), click on "Help" and choose "About Firefox".
That starts the updating process.

But first, make sure you're not busy writing a forum post or anything, as you will have to restart Firefox to complete the installation.

It happened again!
https://www.theregister.co.uk/2018/01/30/mozilla_patches_critical_firefox_vulnerability/

As before, please update immediately.

Also: If anybody uses a Mac, there's a security update for the operating system that fixes a bunch more holes.
https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT208465

It never ends.
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Randi on 31 January 2018, 14:06:34
Back shortly...

Done
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Helen J on 01 February 2018, 10:26:10
Already updated - I have it set to do it automatically.
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Hanibal94 on 01 February 2018, 13:25:48
Already updated - I have it set to do it automatically.

A wise decision!
I like to update it manually as soon as I hear about fixes, to make sure it's done.
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Helen J on 02 February 2018, 07:23:53
Already updated - I have it set to do it automatically.

A wise decision!
I like to update it manually as soon as I hear about fixes, to make sure it's done.

Last time you let us know about updates I went and checked, and they hadn't yet been done, so I did it manually that time.  But as I'm far less likely than you to be aware there's anything to be done, having it set to do itself seems the safest option.  But having an expert on hand to alert us to important ones is very useful!  ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Craig on 02 February 2018, 12:11:09
Hanibal, do you know if any of these updates to Firefox have fixed the security problem? My limited understanding is that the basic design of this search engine makes it impossible to protect sensitive information by sequestering it in a so-called "sand box". Other browsers such as IE and Chrome provide this protection. This is why I tend to do most of my searches with chrome and only use Firefox for trusted sites like OW.
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Hanibal94 on 02 February 2018, 14:47:25
Hanibal, do you know if any of these updates to Firefox have fixed the security problem? My limited understanding is that the basic design of this search engine makes it impossible to protect sensitive information by sequestering it in a so-called "sand box". Other browsers such as IE and Chrome provide this protection. This is why I tend to do most of my searches with chrome and only use Firefox for trusted sites like OW.

It looks like Firefox has been using sandboxing since version 54 (the newest is 58): https://www.theregister.co.uk/2017/06/14/firefox_54_multiple_content_processes_debut/
However, it's hard to tell whether it's more secure than Chrome or vice versa, as they both have other features (Chrome also uses site isolation, but Firefox supposedly does better on removing/preventing malicious extensions).
Best to play it safe and keep updating 'em both.

P.S. Firefox is a Internet browser, not a search engine. Sorry for nitpicking, but I can't ignore that.
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: AvastMH on 02 February 2018, 18:15:04
Do you know - I never really thought of things in that way 'P.S. Firefox is a Internet browser, not a search engine. Sorry for nitpicking, but I can't ignore that.'
I always thought of  browsers and search engines as being one and the same  :-[
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Randi on 03 February 2018, 00:13:57
Happy Birthday
to
Matteo

(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-jEjnT1_kHhI/T39FhASBfcI/AAAAAAAAB_w/rNIkR1QhM6o/s1600/italian%2Brum%2B3.JPG)

Possano tutti i tuoi desideri avverarsi in questo giorno
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 03 February 2018, 03:23:10
Happy Birthday Mattio Matteo (sorry for that).


and for Joan.

Browser; a computer program with a graphical user interface for displaying HTML files, used to navigate the World Wide Web.

Search Engine; a program that searches for and identifies items in a database that correspond to keywords or characters specified by the user, used especially for finding particular sites on the World Wide Web.


Do you know - I never really thought of things in that way 'P.S. Firefox is a Internet browser, not a search engine. Sorry for nitpicking, but I can't ignore that.'
I always thought of  browsers and search engines as being one and the same  :-[
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Caro on 03 February 2018, 04:21:31
Tanti auguri, Matteo!

 ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: jil on 03 February 2018, 05:29:06
Happy Birthday, Matteo!
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Michael on 03 February 2018, 09:56:34
Tanti auguri a te,
Tanti auguri a te,
Tanti auguri a Matteo,
Tanti auguri a te!

Cento di questi giorni!
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Hanibal94 on 03 February 2018, 12:43:14
Tanti aguri, Matteo!
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Dean on 03 February 2018, 19:34:10


(https://i.imgur.com/HXKEJUZ.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/w90v0mz.jpg)
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Craig on 04 February 2018, 19:18:15
Were these random, double-blind, clinically controlled studies, Dean? ???
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Michael on 04 February 2018, 19:44:55
Were these random, double-blind, clinically controlled studies, Dean? ???

It's fake news pushed by the people that sell birthday candles.
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: AvastMH on 04 February 2018, 20:39:30
I wish you a very happy birthday Matteo :D :D :D
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Dean on 05 February 2018, 17:46:50
Were these random, double-blind, clinically controlled studies, Dean? ???

It's fake news pushed by the people that sell birthday candles.

Double blind, clinically controlled, with placebo, on the water, carefully reported, results defended, Adult approved, child appropriate,  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Michael on 05 February 2018, 18:40:34
 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Randi on 05 February 2018, 18:54:54
Double blind, clinically controlled, with placebo, on the water, carefully reported, results defended, Adult approved, child appropriate,  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Is that the marketing department's replacement for Hogwash!?
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Dean on 06 February 2018, 14:21:14
When I corrected student's lab reports I sometimes used a stamp that read 'Hogwash & Bilgewater.'   ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Hanibal94 on 06 February 2018, 15:13:21
When I was a kid, I read a Donald Duck comic where Donald becomes the "Grand Duke of Balderdash and Humbug".
Now that's a title I'd like to give to some people in real life!  ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Michael on 06 February 2018, 15:24:23
It would be a VERY VERY long list!  ;D :'(
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: AvastMH on 06 February 2018, 18:00:35
Can I add to your long list please Michael?  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Michael on 06 February 2018, 21:38:38
https://www.youtube.com/embed/1NLV24qTnlg
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 07 February 2018, 00:47:11
I do not remember that song when I never went to see Gilbert and Sullivan.   ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: propriome on 07 February 2018, 02:13:14
A little late... but thank you so much everybody!!!  :D :D :D
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Hanibal94 on 07 February 2018, 13:43:35
There's another important security fix out - this one for Adobe Flash.
https://www.theregister.co.uk/2018/02/06/adobe_emergency_bug_fix/

I got the Windows update already, according to that article all operating systems except the Linux build of Adobe Flash Player Desktop Runtime are affected.
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Randi on 07 February 2018, 14:26:22
Done - Thanks!
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Kevin on 11 February 2018, 10:29:22
One of those funny things. John Danenhower https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Wilson_Danenhower was the navigator on the Jeannette. His grandson (son of his daughter Ruth) was Sloan Wilson https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sloan_Wilson. Sloan Wilson was an officer on the Greenland Patrol (USCGC Tampa, and the armed trawler Nogak). He wrote a novel based on his experiences called 'Ice Brothers' https://books.google.com/books/about/Ice_Brothers.html?id=OyabZ-2J-wcC.
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Kevin on 11 February 2018, 10:32:06
Oh, and 'Ice Brothers' was used by the Unabomber to hide one of his mail bombs.
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: jil on 11 February 2018, 10:59:29
Oh, and 'Ice Brothers' was used by the Unabomber to hide one of his mail bombs.
:o
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Randi on 11 February 2018, 12:42:42
...Sloan Wilson was an officer on the Greenland Patrol (USCGC Tampa, and the armed trawler Nogak). He wrote a novel based on his experiences called 'Ice Brothers' https://books.google.com/books/about/Ice_Brothers.html?id=OyabZ-2J-wcC.
I'll look for that - when I finish Ice is where you find it by Charles W. Thomas, USCG
I am really enjoying that! Sadly, there is very little coverage of Alaska.
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: AvastMH on 13 February 2018, 18:36:56
Gong Xi fat Choi everyone! Happy year of the dog! (I'm a dog  :D )

I couldn't resist this - well - it wasn't me that designed the dog....

(https://i.imgur.com/0xybVm0.png)
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Hanibal94 on 14 February 2018, 14:07:56
Nice one, Joan!  ;D



Yesterday was "Patch Tuesday", the day where Microsoft, Adobe and others typically release a lot of fixes for their stuff - and this month was no exception!
https://www.theregister.co.uk/2018/02/14/patch_tuesday_microsoft_adobe/

This time, we got patches for Windows, Outlook, MS Office and some other stuff, along with Adobe Reader and Acrobat - with the latter two, the versions for MacOS are also affected!
As always, get the fixes ASAP.
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: AvastMH on 14 February 2018, 17:43:41
I'll watch for the patches coming through hanibal - thanks for the heads up.  I love the idea of getting Pancake Tuesday mixed up with Patches Tuesday. We've issued Adobe pancakes with lemon and sugar, Microsoft pancakes with warm syrup, and Acrobat with chocolate and hazelnut spread. We'll wait to see how eating Windows and Outlook patches with raspberry sauce goes down...... ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 15 February 2018, 00:54:10
Hi Joan.
I nose were yous live, look out next shrove Tuesday I could be knocking at your door.
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: AvastMH on 17 February 2018, 09:38:29
We may not be able to help next year - the house might have fallen down Stuart - we just got a very obvious earthquake! I was sat at the table and felt it shaking - things rattled in the kitchen!  Rona came in from her room having seen the clothes wobbling around on the drier. I guess if we made the pancakes the right tremor might flip them for us?!

Glad you know where we lives Stuart - any time you want to pop round and enjoy the natural shake of the earth - you're very welcome :D :D ;D

~~~~~~~~
Just got a message from a friend in Bristol - might have been closer to the epicentre - their whole flat shook and it sounds worse than our flat shake.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Turns out that the epicentre was the Bristol Channel. So here's Monmouth's BGS station recording (ours was a tad smaller ofcourse :D)

(https://i.imgur.com/xXgFUIm.png?1)
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 17 February 2018, 13:15:48
Hi Joan.
 :o Wow I did not know Britain had big earthquakes till I just looked it up.
I guess you can say The earth moved for you and mean it.   ::)
Glad that it seems to have limited damage.
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: AvastMH on 17 February 2018, 14:18:30
I blame the Scots - half of their mountains are ex-volcanoes (bit of an exageration) and I think this must attract the earthquakes in  ;) ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 17 February 2018, 17:10:58
I think the Highlanderss are just shaky on their feet from toooo much Scotch and that movement is moving down the Pennines Range to England.   ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Dean on 17 February 2018, 19:26:26
Joan:

Glad to hear you are safe!!

Hope that is also true of the rest of our UKers!!    ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Hanibal94 on 18 February 2018, 11:52:32
For all the Brits among us:

Old ten-pound notes will cease to be legal tender on March 1st (http://www.bbc.com/news/business-43104497)

The old ones have Charles Darwin on them, the new ones have Jane Austen.
After the deadline, you will have to visit the Bank of England in London to exchange the notes.
Local banks and post offices might also exchange them, but are not legally required to do so.
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Caro on 19 February 2018, 04:57:53
I haven't seen an old tenner for ages. Spent all mine long ago!



Year of Weather 2017 (https://youtube.com/embed/9YAXEHLNphY)

Visualisation of imagery from the geostationary and polar-orbiting satellites of EUMETSAT, NOAA, the CMA and the JMA.
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Michael on 19 February 2018, 13:51:18
Very nice!  :) :) :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Randi on 21 February 2018, 13:39:37
Coming of age on the Greenland tundra. (https://www.nytimes.com/2018/02/20/opinion/greenland-arctic-childhood.html)
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Michael on 21 February 2018, 14:19:44
 :) :) :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: AvastMH on 21 February 2018, 18:42:44
That was a bit special Randi  :D :D :D
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Randi on 26 February 2018, 22:39:18
North Pole surges above freezing in the dead of winter, stunning scientists (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/capital-weather-gang/wp/2018/02/26/north-pole-surges-above-freezing-in-the-dead-of-winter-stunning-scientists/)
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: jil on 27 February 2018, 04:02:52
 :o
I think that makes the North Pole warmer than my garden at the moment!  ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Helen J on 27 February 2018, 09:28:22
Yes, probably mine too.  And tomorrow I think the highest temperature we're going to reach is -2 .... brrrr!
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Michael on 27 February 2018, 11:19:22
North Pole surges above freezing in the dead of winter, stunning scientists (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/capital-weather-gang/wp/2018/02/26/north-pole-surges-above-freezing-in-the-dead-of-winter-stunning-scientists/)

 :o :o :o  :'( :'( :'(
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 28 February 2018, 01:56:12
4 inches of rain on one day (a few days ago) and now 29 degrees. Nice.
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: jil on 28 February 2018, 04:11:13
-6.5C at around 7am this morning. A bit warmer in the sun now (-1.2), although it's also snowing gently even though there don't seem to be any clouds ??? It is very pretty, if you don't need to travel anywhere.
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: AvastMH on 28 February 2018, 06:46:23
North Pole surges above freezing in the dead of winter, stunning scientists (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/capital-weather-gang/wp/2018/02/26/north-pole-surges-above-freezing-in-the-dead-of-winter-stunning-scientists/)

Now I'm scared - very scared  :o :o :'( :'(

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Meanwhile in Blighty we've become so worried about the big blue band on the right of that image that we've exploded the Met Office website. Warnings have gone to red. Love the picture behind the forecaster, two beautiful sundogs!

(https://i.imgur.com/lz8wCcS.png?1)

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
And finally - how to keep warm in cold weather for pooches - get a duvet cat
And finally - how to keep warm in cold weather for moggies - get a dog underfloor heating system

(https://i.imgur.com/LLNTfBP.png?1)   ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: studentforever on 28 February 2018, 08:52:42
Well, up to yesterday we were going to miss the worst of it. Today it is not funny.  :( I'm not sure if we are actually on red alert or still on 'high' amber. Glasgow Airport, just down the road, is currently closed having reopened briefly after the morning runway clearance. Good thing I'm an old fashioned type and have enough tinned & packet food to give me a boring but adequate diet for the next few days even if the power lines go down so I can't get at the stuff in the freezer. Don't fancy it though, I have a weakness for fresh food from time to time. Our latest heavy snow shower has now eased off and its brightening up again  :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: AvastMH on 28 February 2018, 13:22:32
Our latest heavy snow shower has now eased off and its brightening up again  :)

Glad to hear that, though the news just now mentioned Glasgow Airport as shut. You've got the highest alert with that red bubble over the Edinburgh-Glasgow area.  :-\
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Hanibal94 on 28 February 2018, 13:50:33
Glad to hear you're doing OK, Rosemary!

It's been chilly in Germany too. Temperatures this week are from -5 to -13 C, similar to last week, but it's supposed to get better on the weekend - up to around 8 C.
At least there's been a lot of sunshine. That makes it feel not quite so bad.
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Randi on 28 February 2018, 13:59:55
Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania

At 13:47: 17C, Sunny with a few cloud.

Yesterday:
Temperatures (F)
High  ................................. 56
Normal high  .......................... 43
Year ago  ............................. 46
Record high  .......................... 72 (1880)
Low  .................................. 28
Normal low  ........................... 25
Year ago  ............................. 32
Record low  ........................... -9 (1963)

Precipitation (inches)
24 hours ending 3 p.m yest.  .......... 0.00
Month to date  ........................ 7.04
Normal month to date .................. 2.30
Departure from normal  ................ +4.74
Year to date  ......................... 11.32
Normal year to date  .................. 5.00
Departure from normal  ................ +6.32


The forecast says rain tomorrow and snow the next day...
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Michael on 28 February 2018, 14:38:35
At my house in Victoria the high was 9C the low 5C no rain, cloudy and windy with gusts to 34 kmh. The forecast is for intermittent rain over the next 48 hours with little change in temperature. All in all it's not very pleasant, but it could be a lot worse.
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 28 February 2018, 15:10:53
What is snow?
It's been that long since I've seen it.  :(

Thinking of going to Harbin (China) for the ice festival in Jan 2019. Hope there is snow there.
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: studentforever on 28 February 2018, 17:05:38
The snow has come back a few times since my last post. No buses, no trains, no planes and the sort of lovely powdery snow which blows all over the place. I don't know how much we've had, some of the roofs are almost bare but the back door, which normally has 2 steps down to the path with a raised garden on the other side of it now opens on to the snow but the wind tends to blow the snow over the path.
The news said that there were cars stuck on one of the city motorways with an estimated clearane time of 4-5 hours. One  poor motorist had gone about 2 miles in 2 hours. The problem is that they send the snow ploughs out and the ones we use don't compact the snow that much so it just blows back behind the plough. Our usual snow is much wetter and sticks quite easily.
We are on red alert till tomorrow morning then I think we go to amber for a few hours then down to yellow. They keep changing their minds though. I hope we get a thaw rather than wash the snow away with rain otherwise we'll have problems with flooding. My house shouldn't be at serious risk but the roads could be bad. Hope the rest of you are better situated.
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Hurlock on 28 February 2018, 17:18:15
School was closed today in the North of England.  Had some fun sledging on a bright but cold day.  Snowing heavily again now.  It has probably been 10 years since our last significant snow.
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: AvastMH on 28 February 2018, 17:43:18
Sounds like fun Hurlock! :D

Very very cold here but no snow yet.  :D
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Thursday Next on 01 March 2018, 16:10:14
We have a red warning in Devon, too.  Lots of snow  :(  At least I am in a city, must be dreadful up on Dartmoor - I do hope we get some milder weather soon!
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: studentforever on 01 March 2018, 17:34:15
Good luck. We're still minus buses although we may get some tomorrow. Glasgow Airport is still closed, they hope (again) to open up tomorrow. There are a few trains running down the coast line but the rest of the lines round the central belt are off. If, like me, you are retired and well-stocked then it's inconvenient but if you are in work with an unsympathetic employer it must be hell. It's difficult for nurses etc too, however they've cancelled most of the routine clinics and elective surgery so they've got some flexibility. Keep warm and stay safe.
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: AvastMH on 01 March 2018, 18:03:39
Just watching a documentary about the Great Freeze of 1963. A quarter of all our birds in the UK died during January and February 1963. I worked from home today - way to treacherous to go out. That meant being able to spend a bit of time making up some more fat balls. Mealworms, niger seed, sunflower seed, smashed up peanuts and hedgehog crunchies, chopped raisins that were living at the back of the cupboard. And tip toeing out to put fresh water out - about 6 times. The stuff was freezing so quickly. Very little snow on my path - it simply blew past without touching the floor.  :-[
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Dean on 01 March 2018, 19:17:22
I'm a couple hundred klicks north of Randi. We are due for 15 - 30cm snow overnight.  Earlier this week we were looking at temps in the 15 - 18? C range! :o
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Randi on 01 March 2018, 21:24:58
Windy!
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: studentforever on 02 March 2018, 03:11:07
I suppose conditions are improving but the buses are by-passing the village so 20 min walk to bus stop or dig out car. I can probably get out of the bottom of the village but the buses use a bus link at the top of the hill which, needless to say, has not been ploughed or gritted. No trains this morning, no mainline trains or replacement buses between Glasgow & England. Still, at least we didn't get any noticeable snow last night so could be worse. The first day of Spring didn't feel exactly spring-like. Believe it or not, climate warming affecting the upper atmosphere is being blamed for our cold snap, apparently it influences the jet stream but I didn't catch the whole of the explanation on the radio program.
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Thursday Next on 02 March 2018, 15:18:54
We thankfully have rain forecast for overnight with temperatures about to go above freezing!  Currently I would struggle to get to the garage, let alone get the car up the sloping driveway!  But hopefully the snow will all be gone by Monday and normal life can resume.  Having spent a lot of time looking at weather forecasts over the last few days, it has become clear that there are big discrepancies between the Met Office forecasts and those on BBC Weather as supplied by the new contractor.  It's also become very clear that the Met Office forecasts are way more accurate than BBC Weather - I have lodged a complaint with the BBC!
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Michael on 02 March 2018, 15:33:14
Yes, the forecasts. For us in Canada, Environment Canada wanted people who could think and reason to do the weather forecasts. The radio stations wanted someone who would sound good, the TV stations wanted someone who would both look good and sound good. For a long time they would use the weather forecasts provided by Environment Canada, but then they wanted to differentiate themselves from other media so they would have their own people doing the forecasts. The results are obvious...
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Thursday Next on 02 March 2018, 15:57:42
Unfortunately, the BBC were mainly looking for someone who would do it cheaper than the Met Office.  It's beginning to look like accuracy wasn't a big priority.
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: AvastMH on 02 March 2018, 16:03:03
it has become clear that there are big discrepancies between the Met Office forecasts and those on BBC Weather as supplied by the new contractor.  It's also become very clear that the Met Office forecasts are way more accurate than BBC Weather - I have lodged a complaint with the BBC!

Too true!  I can't believe the BBC stuff - it's so often wrong compared to the Met Office. I was sorry to lose the Rainfall radar because that's such a help for getting around. I hope they fix it soon. :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: jil on 02 March 2018, 17:59:49
it has become clear that there are big discrepancies between the Met Office forecasts and those on BBC Weather as supplied by the new contractor. 
Ahhh, I should have remembered the BBC were going to change when I spotted that the BBC forecast kept saying it wasn't going to snow here and then it did. Met Office has been much more accurate.
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Randi on 02 March 2018, 18:07:44
Yesterday we were supposed to have snow today.
Today we are having mostly sunny.
::)
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: AvastMH on 02 March 2018, 18:19:37
Yesterday we were supposed to have snow today.
Today we are having mostly sunny.
::)

 ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Dean on 02 March 2018, 19:38:43
Your weather over there made the National News in the states.

BTW - I ended up with 20cm of heavy wet stuff this morning.  ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Michael on 02 March 2018, 19:39:55
What global warming???  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: AvastMH on 02 March 2018, 19:42:38
Gosh - we made your news?  :o Well there's a turn up for the books. Hope your 20cm's worth vanishes fast Dean :D

Global warming Michael - it is! Sweeping the snow off the path keeps me glowingly warm  ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Michael on 02 March 2018, 19:48:55
Global warming Michael - it is! Sweeping the snow off the path keeps me glowingly warm  ;D

 ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: AvastMH on 04 March 2018, 19:17:54
OK - perhaps not all is lost?  :-\

The Ross Ice Shelf is Freezing, Not Melting. Which Is Weird. (https://www.popularmechanics.com/science/environment/a18697409/ross-ice-shelf-melting/)
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 04 March 2018, 21:20:19
US and UK weather made the news Downunder a couple of days ago.
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Randi on 05 March 2018, 10:41:21
Happy Birthday
to
Danny


(https://cdn001.cakecentral.com/gallery/2015/03/900_851887unGn_telescope-and-stars-cake.jpg)
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Caro on 05 March 2018, 16:09:32
Love the cake.  :)

Happy birthday Danny!
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: AvastMH on 05 March 2018, 16:44:54
US and UK weather made the news Downunder a couple of days ago.

 :-[ :-[ :-[ that's sooo embarrassing.  ::)
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Dean on 06 March 2018, 08:44:32
Don't like the weather??!!  Around here last week all you had to do was wait 24 hours!   ;)

(https://i.imgur.com/eqR6Z2G.jpg)
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Helen J on 06 March 2018, 10:52:27
Yes, we had that one too ....
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: AvastMH on 06 March 2018, 12:09:28
Happy Birthday
to
Danny


(https://cdn001.cakecentral.com/gallery/2015/03/900_851887unGn_telescope-and-stars-cake.jpg)

Belated HAPPY BIRTHDAY Danny  ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Thursday Next on 09 March 2018, 15:49:43
There is a petition to the UK Parliament calling for the remains of the WW2 sailors who died on board HMS Exeter & HMS Electra to be recovered from the anonymous mass grave in Indonesia in which they were dumped by metal scavengers.  You have to be a British citizen or a UK resident to sign this.
https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/212957

This is a link to an article about it in The Guardian published earlier this year: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/jan/22/bodies-of-second-world-war-sailors-in-java-sea-dumped-in-mass-grave
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Helen J on 10 March 2018, 10:42:38
Signed - it's the least which can be done for them.
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 10 March 2018, 16:06:59
Also signed.
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 11 March 2018, 16:02:22
Happy Commonwealth Countries day (12 Mar 2018) to whom it applies.
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Michael on 12 March 2018, 13:33:45
Happy Commonwealth Countries day (12 Mar 2018) to whom it applies.

Thank you!   :) :) :)

And to you, too.
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Randi on 12 March 2018, 15:03:58
Happy Birthday
to
Philip Brohan

(https://www.tinyme.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/10-crazily-creative-cakes/10-Crazily-Creative-Cakes-1-3.jpg)

Without him, we wouldn't be here !

Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Michael on 12 March 2018, 17:34:38
Yes, Happy Birthday, Philip.

also

Very belated Happy Birthday to Danny. 

I thought I had sent best wishes, but I see there was a gap between my intentions and my actions.  :-[
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Bob on 12 March 2018, 17:44:01
Happy Birthday, Philip!
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: AvastMH on 12 March 2018, 19:42:39
(That's a fantastic cake find, Randi!  :D )

Happy birthday Philip!

Hope you celebrated with one of these to wash down Randi's cake ;D (yes - unashamedly nicked this from the Met Office site;) )

(https://i.imgur.com/HRcJfS3.png)
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Randi on 12 March 2018, 19:47:36
Great mug ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: AvastMH on 12 March 2018, 20:07:48
Great mug ;D

 ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Caro on 13 March 2018, 02:57:50
Slightly belated happy birthday Philip.  :)

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DYInyqOVoAA_1B7.jpg:small)
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Hanibal94 on 13 March 2018, 12:11:39
Happy Birthday, Philip!
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 14 March 2018, 00:53:09
RIP Stephen Hawking. 1942-2018
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Hanibal94 on 14 March 2018, 12:19:21
An incredible person. RIP
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: AvastMH on 14 March 2018, 19:23:57
I especially liked his sense of humour.  :D
RIP Stephen Hawking
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: studentforever on 18 March 2018, 12:31:11
It's amazing which beach missing buoys choose for their final destination.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-highlands-islands-43448149
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Hurlock on 18 March 2018, 13:01:56
It's amazing which beach missing buoys choose for their final destination.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-highlands-islands-43448149

I wonder if Daphne will show up there as well.  Daphne is a giant inflatable rubber duck that was blown out to sea in Australia where it was a swimming club mascot.
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Randi on 18 March 2018, 13:09:49
I seem to remember a giant inflatable rubber duck turning up in various harbors several years ago?
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: AvastMH on 18 March 2018, 17:59:49
I seem to remember a giant inflatable rubber duck turning up in various harbors several years ago?

Or even several days ago? Looks like lax duck security is an Aussie affliction  ;) ;D

(https://i.imgur.com/gYoCN6z.png)

I hope she floats home  :D
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Randi on 18 March 2018, 20:26:25
This is the one I was thinking of...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rubber_Duck_%28sculpture%29

https://www.smh.com.au/national/rubber-duck-darling-harbour-20130123-2d76a.html
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Hanibal94 on 19 March 2018, 11:48:28
The duck has been found!

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-australia-43457112
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Michael on 19 March 2018, 13:37:50
Thank goodness! Now I can stop lighting votive candles for her/his safe return.  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Randi on 19 March 2018, 14:21:46
Good!
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: AvastMH on 19 March 2018, 17:27:25
Thank goodness! Now I can stop lighting votive candles for her/his safe return.  ;D ;D ;D

I'll second Randi on that one! You were seen lighting the candles ....

(https://68.media.tumblr.com/389e092191e1d1f1361a380b35bd1305/tumblr_ozkmd4IuiP1ugyavxo1_1280.jpg)
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: JamesAPrattIII on 21 March 2018, 16:53:11
The wreck of the Cruiser USS Juneau has been found. see combinedfleet.com for more details. There have been a lot of wrecks of ships from WW I and II found in recent months.
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: AvastMH on 21 March 2018, 17:47:20
Is there a special push to find the ships please? Perhaps a Government funded project?  :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Randi on 22 March 2018, 09:03:47
How to Protect Yourself (and Your Friends) on Facebook (https://www.nytimes.com/2018/03/19/technology/personaltech/protect-yourself-on-facebook.html)

Want to #DeleteFacebook? You Can Try (https://www.nytimes.com/2018/03/21/technology/personaltech/delete-facebook.html)
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: AvastMH on 22 March 2018, 17:28:54
How to Protect Yourself (and Your Friends) on Facebook (https://www.nytimes.com/2018/03/19/technology/personaltech/protect-yourself-on-facebook.html)

Want to #DeleteFacebook? You Can Try (https://www.nytimes.com/2018/03/21/technology/personaltech/delete-facebook.html)

Thanks Randi! That's very helpful. I change my birthday now and then on facebook. I sometimes get useful vouchers through the post to celebrate my birthday. Not that I share that around - not that any company would ever go looking for my details (see that pig flying over there?).   :o ::)  ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Kevin on 29 March 2018, 22:55:48
"2nd Lt. M.S. Hay, USRCS, was released from arrest and temporarily restored to duty, his services being necessary; - and was denied the privilege of the wine mess for a period of thirty days." 

....day before:

At 5:45 PM placed 2nd Lt. M.S. Hay, in arrest for drunkenness on duty, neglect of duty, scandalous conduct tending to the destruction of good morals, and conduct unbecoming of an officer and a gentleman, pending the preferring of charges and the trial thereof.  (A.J. Henderson, Capt.)

USRC Thetis, Aug. 14-15, 1908
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Randi on 29 March 2018, 23:07:25
:o
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: AvastMH on 31 March 2018, 07:40:01
Oooo - I wonder why he hit the bottle? A birthday party gone mad?  :o
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 31 March 2018, 16:32:32
This amused me, hope it does you

https://www.chillifm.com.au/images/stone_henge.JPG (https://www.chillifm.com.au/images/stone_henge.JPG)

It's almost time to wind our clocks forward (or backward as I did) to end/start daylight savings.

The team at Stonehenge are working around the clock to reposition the stones at the ancient site.

Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: AvastMH on 31 March 2018, 17:27:00
 ;D ;D ;D  Nice one Stuart! It's got to be tough getting those stones perfect to the second in all that fog!
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Randi on 31 March 2018, 17:28:35
;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Randi on 02 April 2018, 23:00:53
Alaskan illuminations - By night, look for the aurora borealis; by day, discover the joys of making pies, riding trains and seeing wildlife - maybe even a moose. (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/style/wp/2018/03/29/feature/alaskan-illuminations-northern-lights/)
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Hanibal94 on 03 April 2018, 13:31:35
I thought this was a cool example of cross-discipline science:
Conservationists use astronomy techniques to save species (http://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-43546429)
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Michael on 03 April 2018, 13:40:59
 8) 8) 8)
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: studentforever on 03 April 2018, 16:36:37
I always enjoy cross-disciplinary collaboration  ;)  ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Randi on 03 April 2018, 20:54:59
I thought this was a cool example of cross-discipline science:
Conservationists use astronomy techniques to save species (http://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-43546429)
Beautiful!
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: studentforever on 06 April 2018, 06:44:02
For those penguin & antarctic fans among you

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/in-pictures-43629708
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Thursday Next on 06 April 2018, 15:16:58
Brilliant photos - thanks for sharing!
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: AvastMH on 06 April 2018, 18:51:31
For those penguin & antarctic fans among you

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/in-pictures-43629708

Thanks for these!  I'll post them on PenguinWatch tomorrow.  The pictures are wonderful (particularly love the foot prints)  :D Greenpeace are having a massive push against krill oil products with some pretty major stockists throwing in the towel under public pressure. A lot of bigger stockists purport to be in line with the United Nations 17 points for Sustainable Development  Goals. Number 14 is all about caring for the oceans. It's sad how major companies have big 'green' departments but somehow the eco messages do not percolate throughout the organisation.   ;) :D
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: jil on 07 April 2018, 04:59:25
For those penguin & antarctic fans among you

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/in-pictures-43629708
Great photos - hope it works!
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: AvastMH on 07 April 2018, 14:04:37
Alaskan illuminations - By night, look for the aurora borealis; by day, discover the joys of making pies, riding trains and seeing wildlife - maybe even a moose. (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/style/wp/2018/03/29/feature/alaskan-illuminations-northern-lights/)

I really enjoyed this piece - and I'm green with jealousy. What a trip!  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Michael on 07 April 2018, 15:03:36
Why see one moose when you can see two?  Their mother was standing a few feet away, so it was actually three.

(http://i.imgur.com/F0o1jCj.jpg?1) (https://imgur.com/F0o1jCj)
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: AvastMH on 07 April 2018, 17:22:51
They've got huge ears - and they look very sweet :D
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Helen J on 08 April 2018, 06:17:36
Great picture, Michael - I hope they enjoyed seeing you as much as you did them!
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Randi on 08 April 2018, 09:11:46
;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Hanibal94 on 09 April 2018, 12:36:47
Someone at work passed this around, we got some good laughs out of it:

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DZZ-IZ5U8AAyImE?format=jpg)
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Thursday Next on 09 April 2018, 14:02:22
That's brilliant!  ;D  Brings back lots of (not very happy) memories!
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Bob on 09 April 2018, 15:55:51
I am, of course, on a telecon as I type this...  :-X
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: AvastMH on 09 April 2018, 16:26:04
Oh my - we have that type of machine. It got two names 'The Spider Phone' and 'The Trekkies Phone' (looks like the comms badges in the later series). It terrified people.  ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: jil on 09 April 2018, 18:20:28
I remember the spider phone - it seemed to be completely random as to whether it would work or not (Or perhaps that was just me!)
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 09 April 2018, 19:49:46
I am completely random as to whether I work as well. (Snap)
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: jil on 10 April 2018, 11:12:11
 ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Craig on 10 April 2018, 11:55:03
I have a feeling you guys are playing a trick on me. This conversation seems to have been started by Hanibal when he wrote
Quote
Someone at work passed this around, we got some good laughs out of it:


But what is "this"? I don't see any link or attachment. Am I going senile?   ??? :D
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Helen J on 10 April 2018, 12:03:48
There's a very large picture - can't you see it?
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Hanibal94 on 10 April 2018, 13:26:52
Do you have Twitter blocked? That's where the image is hosted.
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Craig on 10 April 2018, 14:49:05
I joined Twitter briefly several weeks ago in order to try to contact someone but when that failed I cancelled my account. Do you have to be a member of Twitter to see the picture? Or perhaps they are punishing me for leaving?
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Thursday Next on 10 April 2018, 15:42:31
I'm not on Twitter and I can see the picture OK  ???
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Craig on 10 April 2018, 17:37:04
I logged in to my cancelled Twitter account and it was automatically reinstated. They really do love me  :)

Now I can see the image. I don't know how to close my account without being blocked. Perhaps there is no way.  >:(
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Hanibal94 on 11 April 2018, 13:48:47
That is odd - maybe it's some strange error that only affects those who have a deactivated, but not deleted, Twitter account?
I just checked: Twitter keeps your data for 30 days after deactivation, only then does it actually delete everything, which can take up to a week.
If you log back in during those 30 days, your account will automatically be restored.
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Randi on 11 April 2018, 14:42:25
I never had Twitter and I see the picture :-\
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Craig on 11 April 2018, 17:57:14
Yes, as Hanibal says,  it seems to only affect those who are in the 30 day weaning period. I will cancel again and give it a full month.
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Kevin on 13 April 2018, 09:43:40
I was just poring over a reference guide to Navy logbooks in the National Archives and found an interesting set of entries -- 'Canadian Drifters and Canadian Trawlers'. 27 log series of armed fishing-type boats loaned to the US Navy during WW1 for patrol duty. Looks like they were build in Canada for the Admiralty during the war - apparently hundreds of them.
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Randi on 13 April 2018, 10:07:48
8) 8) 8)
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: AvastMH on 13 April 2018, 17:22:15
I was just poring over a reference guide to Navy logbooks in the National Archives and found an interesting set of entries -- 'Canadian Drifters and Canadian Trawlers'. 27 log series of armed fishing-type boats loaned to the US Navy during WW1 for patrol duty. Looks like they were build in Canada for the Admiralty during the war - apparently hundreds of them.

They sound interesting Kevin  :D
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Hanibal94 on 15 April 2018, 12:47:38
Craig found out what was wrong:

Quote
Thanks for the tip about browser console, Hanibal94. I didn't know what it was. Here's what it shows when I am on the chat page with the image:

(https://imgur.com/99esLqy.png)

So that explains why it is only Firefox that is hiding the image. I usually use Firefox for the Forum but I must have used Chrome after I cancelled my Twitter account. I turned tracking off in Firefox and saw the image. So it has nothing to do with the status of my Twitter account.

Craig

Quote
You may know this but you can easily exempt a site from tracking protection in Firefox while allowing it to be in effect generally. There is a little symbol that appears in the URL window for a site when something is hidden because of tracking protection. You can click on that symbol and add the site to the exemption list. I have exempted OW.

Nice job working it out, Craig!
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Randi on 19 April 2018, 12:41:59
:o
Masses of shrimp and krill may play a huge role in mixing oceans (https://www.sciencenews.org/article/masses-shrimp-and-krill-may-play-huge-role-mixing-oceans?utm_source=email&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=latest-newsletter-v2)
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Hanibal94 on 19 April 2018, 13:27:18
For those who use Google Chrome: Version 66 has been released, it includes strict site isolation and 62 security issues, two of them critical.
https://www.theregister.co.uk/2018/04/18/chrome_66/

As always, I recommend immediate updating.
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Randi on 19 April 2018, 13:38:42
Thanks!
Mine already has Version 66 and says it is up to date :-\
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Hanibal94 on 19 April 2018, 14:59:51
Sounds like yours already updated itself, Randi. It does that, but not immediately - in my case, I usually end up triggering the update myself.
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Dean on 19 April 2018, 19:10:06
I tend to let Applications NOTIFY me of updates but I will only MANUALLY let them install! I have had several issues with 'auto installs' that messed up my System!

I want some control over what is happening.  ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Caro on 20 April 2018, 09:49:16
Offshore crews keeping lookout for toy ship in Atlantic (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-north-east-orkney-shetland-43838985)

 ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Randi on 20 April 2018, 10:18:22
 ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: AvastMH on 20 April 2018, 18:21:00
Offshore crews keeping lookout for toy ship in Atlantic (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-north-east-orkney-shetland-43838985)

 ;D

AvastMeBatteries  ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Randi on 20 April 2018, 21:14:52
:P :P :P ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Hanibal94 on 24 April 2018, 13:59:51
I thought this was very interesting:

Parable of the Polygons: A playable post on the shape of society. (http://ncase.me/polygons/)
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Michael on 24 April 2018, 14:24:00
That's a brilliant illustration, Hanibal. Thank you!
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: studentforever on 24 April 2018, 15:20:55
Nice one Hanibal
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: AvastMH on 24 April 2018, 17:20:37
Cor - they are hard to please for sure. Rona got as far as making rainbow confetti out of them (?!?  :o ). I felt sorry for them and left them to work it out in the ether. :D

Tomorrow is World Penguin Day  ;D ;D 8)  Krill all across the world are shaking in their tentacles.  ;)  PenguinWatch is moving onto Panoptes platform so I'm booking a nervous breakdown now  ;) ::) :-X

(https://i.imgur.com/SOz7PSK.png)
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Randi on 26 April 2018, 15:00:08
From Siberia, an Unlikely Cry: 'We Need Greenpeace Out Here!' (https://www.nytimes.com/2018/04/26/world/europe/siberia-ice-climate-change.html)
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: AvastMH on 26 April 2018, 19:09:17
You would honestly think that we would all be happy to see the end of ice on the road - how sobering this story is.  :(
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 26 April 2018, 23:19:55
Thank you to our Canadian Friends

http://cbc.ca/news/politics/franklin-expedition-hms-erebus-terror-1.4636222 (http://cbc.ca/news/politics/franklin-expedition-hms-erebus-terror-1.4636222)

(John Stuart Franklin)
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Helen J on 29 April 2018, 12:23:42
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/apr/21/alaska-climate-change-winter-way-of-life

Interesting and sobering article about changes in the climate in Utqigvik (formerly called Barrow) over recent years.
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Michael on 29 April 2018, 14:06:44
 :'( :'( :'(
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: AvastMH on 30 April 2018, 11:14:10
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/apr/21/alaska-climate-change-winter-way-of-life

Interesting and sobering article about changes in the climate in Utqigvik (formerly called Barrow) over recent years.

 :'( :'( :'(

That's an amazing co-incidence - I'm staying a bit later at work today to go to this lecture:

Monday 30 April 2018 (2nd Week, Trinity Term)

Climate Change, Indigenous Knowledge and Whaling in the Arctic
Date: 30 April 2018, 17:15 - 18:15 (Monday, 2nd week, Trinity 2018)
Speaker: Arnold Brower, Jr. (Executive Director of the Alaska Eskimo Whaling Commission. )
Venue: Dyson Perrins Building, off South Parks Road OX1 3QY
Venue Details: Halford Mackinder Lecture Theatre
Organiser: Environmental Change Institute (University of Oxford)
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Michael on 30 April 2018, 12:02:26
Wow, that will be a great lecture.  :) :) :) And with you having worked on all those whaling logs, think of the questions you can ask, and the things you will discover! I just checked with the airlines, but even if I catch the first available flight, I'll still be too late to attend.  ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: jil on 30 April 2018, 12:58:39
Sounds like a fascinating lecture!
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: AvastMH on 30 April 2018, 17:45:33
What a wonderful lecture. Arnold Brower Jr is about 5'2", looks about 55 and is 70 years old.  When he was a child he went to school in Sitka, 1100 miles south of Barrow. When he came north and was about 14 his dad appeared and hauled him out of class because it was about time for him to learn how to provide food for his community.  At that time he had never heard of global warming, until ten years ago he didn't think it existed, now he believes it without doubt.

I'll write a full report tomorrow evening. I was utterly impressed by the expertise that Brower had taught himself. His grasp on the science and politics is excellent. Just like any country leader. 

So more to come :)  It was a really engaging talk. But very sobering to be honest.
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Kevin on 30 April 2018, 23:09:16
The Browers go back to the old whaling days in Utqigvik, as you probably know. There's a book by Charlie Brower - 50 years below zero: https://archive.org/details/fiftyyearsbelowz006297mbp
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Randi on 30 April 2018, 23:29:16
8) ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: AvastMH on 01 May 2018, 16:14:11
I wonder if that was Arnold's father? That's a fascinating book - I know what my next read will be. Oops -left my notes at work so I'll tidy up tomorrow :(
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Craig on 01 May 2018, 19:03:05
You can be the first to write a review of 50 years below zero, Joan.
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: AvastMH on 02 May 2018, 16:19:48
Ah - I'll take the challenge :D
Back in a mo to finish that report - feeding hedgehogs first :)
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

When whaling was banned the Inuit still fed themselves on a few whales each year. The Inuit at Barrow contested the numbers of whales quoted at that time as between 200 and 600 animals. They developed a 'traditional plan' to support themselves. They also developed a system of using three hydrophones to triangulate each migrating whale in their area. Cornell University assisted with the final production of data, and proof of how well the system worked. The number of whales was shown to be around 4000. The Inuit proposed to take 68 per year as a maximum. That should still allow numbers of whales to increase. In Brower's area they need 12 whales to support 11 villages. If they cannot take whales they have to hunt more walrus and caribou.

Dr Dalee Durrough worked with the Inuit to write a paper to the International Whaling Convention Aboriginal Subsistence Working Group to show how very different their type of whaling is compared to commercial whaling. A suitable area on the sea ice but close to the shore is used to kill and haul the whale out for butchering and storage. Nothing is wasted. Whales are very sensetive to sound so the whalers wear soft clothing. When an international group of (?)politicians arrived they work dark clothes and stomped around and talked loudly. So a kill could not be made.

In recent years the problem of thinning sea ice is making this form of whaling so much harder, in fact two whales were lost by falling through the sea ice after being killed.

Already whales are arriving earlier than usual due to temperatures rising. They used to have the safety of the sea ice to protect them from orcas (who only use clear water). As the sea ice retreats the orcas can kill more whales each year. Often the kill is the slower animals, mothers and dependent babies.
The whalers used fresh water run off from glaciers for their drinking water until recently. The glaciers are no longer able to supply that level of water.
A new source of meat is salmon which is now able to live as far north as Barrow due to the climate warming.

A study was made of the age of the whales and it was found that some had a dark line of matter in their baleen. This proved to be from the outfall from the Hiroshima bomb.
As the bowheads migrate they rise up under sea ice a metre thick and push it until it cracks thus allowing them to make a blowhole. Beluga whales tag along behind to use the same blowholes.

A Good Neighbour Scheme has been set up with companies like Exxon, Conico, Shell, who compensate the traditional peoples for the problems caused by climate change. A recent new problem was the warming of the soil. The underground cellars dug into the permafrost to house the whale meat have begun to implode because the soil is de-frosting. Special machinery to re-freeze the ice is provide by the big oil companies who are dealing with the same problem affecting their rigs' foundations.

There were endless lists of differing authorities involved in this part of the world. Brower has to deal with all of those. I was left with a sense of awe at the changing times that he has lived through and the impressive way in which he has engaged with all of those changes. Leaving school to go whaling and now travelling to Rome with his laptop to speak to another set of scientists. Brower's determination to engage with the world to support his community is inspiring indeed.
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 02 May 2018, 23:37:18
Nice report Joan. Thanks
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Randi on 03 May 2018, 00:13:41
Indeed!
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Helen J on 03 May 2018, 11:59:42
Thanks Joan - he sounds a very impressive person.  We need to listen to the communities who are on the front line of these disputed questions.
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Michael on 03 May 2018, 12:24:17
Thank you for an excellent summary, Joan.
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Michael on 05 May 2018, 19:20:17
Does anyone know what happened to the Office of Coast Survey Historical charts (https://historicalcharts.noaa.gov/historicals/search)?

I'm lost at sea...
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Randi on 05 May 2018, 19:38:27
I had seen that earlier :'(
I have submitted an inquiry...

Even links to individual charts like
https://historicalcharts.noaa.gov/historicals/preview/image/9302-8-1948
don't work :-X
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 05 May 2018, 19:49:03
I had seen that earlier :'(
I have submitted an inquiry...

Even links to individual charts like
https://historicalcharts.noaa.gov/historicals/preview/image/9302-8-1948
don't work :-X

Afew months ago I think I saw that there were cuts in US Gov budget funding to gov organisations maybe this got caught up in that.
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Michael on 05 May 2018, 20:03:21
Surely not!!!  :'( :'( :'(
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Helen J on 06 May 2018, 05:45:40
Looks as though it's working OK now - hopefully just a glitch.  Thank goodness!
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Hanibal94 on 06 May 2018, 06:20:49
Both links work fine for me too.
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Michael on 06 May 2018, 10:29:31
Looks as though it's working OK now - hopefully just a glitch.  Thank goodness!

 :) :) :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Randi on 06 May 2018, 13:13:59
Whew!!!
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Randi on 06 May 2018, 15:13:58
Quote from: https://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/11/smarter-living/stop-robocalls.html - Robocalls Flooding Your Cellphone?
Watch what you say
One recent scheme involves getting consumers to say "yes" and later using a recording of the response to allow unauthorized charges on the person's credit card account, the F.C.C. warned in March.
When the caller asks, "Can you hear me?" and the consumer answers "yes," the caller can gain a voice signature that can later be used to authorize fraudulent charges by telephone.
Best to answer with "I can hear you," said Ryan Kalember, senior vice president of cybersecurity strategy at Proofpoint, a cybersecurity company in Sunnyvale, Calif.
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: AvastMH on 06 May 2018, 19:36:55
Quote from: https://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/11/smarter-living/stop-robocalls.html - Robocalls Flooding Your Cellphone?
Watch what you say
One recent scheme involves getting consumers to say "yes" and later using a recording of the response to allow unauthorized charges on the person's credit card account, the F.C.C. warned in March.
When the caller asks, "Can you hear me?" and the consumer answers "yes," the caller can gain a voice signature that can later be used to authorize fraudulent charges by telephone.
Best to answer with "I can hear you," said Ryan Kalember, senior vice president of cybersecurity strategy at Proofpoint, a cybersecurity company in Sunnyvale, Calif.

I have to admit to not being as nice as that. Cold callers get 'Why are you calling me?' as my first comment. If they followed up with 'Can you hear me?' I'd probably go with 'I shouldn't be able to'. I feel so sorry for people who have to work in those centres :(
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Michael on 06 May 2018, 19:53:44
I'm with you, annoyed at the calls, and feeling sorry for the callers. It must be a miserable job.
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Randi on 06 May 2018, 20:52:19
Definitely
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: studentforever on 07 May 2018, 01:18:20
My reply is often 'I do not wish to continue with this conversation', phone down
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 07 May 2018, 02:52:34
UK and AU phone users can get the BT call Guardian phone and set up automatic call blocking like I have.
No more 6pm sales calls.
I can take a short while to set up correctly so your friends get through but worth it.
Bliss.
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Randi on 07 May 2018, 09:57:03
I had seen that earlier :'(
I have submitted an inquiry...

Even links to individual charts like
https://historicalcharts.noaa.gov/historicals/preview/image/9302-8-1948
don't work :-X

I got a response to my inquiry!
Quote
OCS response: Hi, thank you for contacting the Office of Coast Survey's Historical Map & Chart collection. I apologize for the downtime of the historical chart site, everything should be functional again now. -Ben
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Michael on 07 May 2018, 13:32:42
Yay Ben! Yay Randi!  :) :) :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: AvastMH on 07 May 2018, 18:18:58
I'll second that Michael :D
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Craig on 08 May 2018, 10:54:10
Did you buy an individual PANOPTES unit for only $5000, Joan? You could have it put in a geostationary orbit over your house and watch it with your spy glass  ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: AvastMH on 08 May 2018, 17:20:39
Did you buy an individual PANOPTES unit for only $5000, Joan? You could have it put in a geostationary orbit over your house and watch it with your spy glass  ;D

You mean I can buy a chunk of Panoptes and consign it to outer space? Let joy be unconfined! Where do I sign up? ;D ;D ;D
(Should I warn the Martians to expect this unspeakable item? I think that I should tell them in order to maintain good inter-planetary relations.)

 ;) ;) ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 09 May 2018, 16:46:07
Thanks.
Should that be recorded somewhere? If so please place accordingly.
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Michael on 09 May 2018, 18:13:39
Thanks.
Should that be recorded somewhere? If so please place accordingly.

No need. Some future transcriber may be tasked with Events or Weather or whatever.
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Randi on 09 May 2018, 19:33:54
Thanks.
Should that be recorded somewhere? If so please place accordingly.

Eastwind 1948 Discussion topic ;)
I'll move it.
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Michael on 09 May 2018, 20:59:12
High-schoolers forced Utah to admit climate change is real (https://www.hcn.org/articles/opinion-high-schoolers-forced-Utah-to-admit-climate-change-is-real)
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Randi on 09 May 2018, 21:27:24
Wonderful !
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: studentforever on 10 May 2018, 03:00:18
Drip, drip, drip wears away the stone!!
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Randi on 10 May 2018, 21:20:02
Alexa and Siri Can Hear This Hidden Command. You Cant. (https://www.nytimes.com/2018/05/10/technology/alexa-siri-hidden-command-audio-attacks.html)
Researchers can now send secret audio instructions undetectable to the human ear to Apple's Siri, Amazon's Alexa and Google's Assistant.
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Hanibal94 on 11 May 2018, 07:31:01
For everybody on Windows 10: I just installed version 1803 (the biannual mega-update) (https://www.zdnet.com/pictures/whats-new-in-windows-10-version-1803-the-spring-creators-update/18/), and have some advice for those who still need to do it.

BEFORE:

Check if your computer has any SSDs (solid state drives), and if so, what brand, because there have been problems reported with certain ones from Intel: https://www.theregister.co.uk/2018/05/10/windows_10_intel_ssd_incompatibility/
First, see what types of drives you have: https://www.howtogeek.com/202810/how-do-you-determine-which-type-of-drive-hdd-or-ssd-you-have-with-windows-8/
If there are any SSDs, you can use this tool to get the brand info: https://www.ccleaner.com/speccy
(The free version is fine, but it seems to install another app called CCleaner - you can just remove that, as it has nothing to do with Speccy)

Also: You will receive a popup (https://www.zdnet.com/pictures/whats-new-in-windows-10-version-1803-the-spring-creators-update/2/) when your computer is ready to install - however, this popup appears without warning and immediately puts itself in the foreground, thus interrupting whatever you were doing!
(I was playing a computer game when I got it, and it interrupted THAT - fortunately, the game paused itself and I was able to keep playing after clicking "Remind me later")

AFTER:

When you log in for the first time after installation, it will ask you about several privacy settings.
I recommend choosing No in each case, except diagnostic data, as you can't fully stop Microsoft from processing that - all you can do is set it to "Basic".
Then, go to your privacy settings (opening the Start menu and typing "Privacy" should do the job), and go through all the tabs on the left - some of these will have been turned on!
Again, turn them all off, except for "Camera" and "Microphone", which are required by Skype - but you can stop other apps from using those.

Also, some apps might be automatically deactivated if they are not compatible with the new version of Windows - in my case, I got it for Intel WiDi (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WiDi), which has been discontinued, so I uninstalled it.
Compatibility issues like this are pretty rare, but if it happens, and it's something you want to keep, check the manufacturer's website and see if they have a newer version of the app.

Finally, keep an eye on your computer's behavior over the next few days - if something really bad happens, you can revert to the previous version of Windows, but only within 10 days after updating.  Then it's no longer possible.



But despite all this, it is still worth updating, as each update does generally include some useful new things - this one enables password recovery via security questions for local (non-Microsoft) accounts!
Plus, Microsoft will not support the old versions forever - so if you want to keep getting security fixes, you gotta stay up-to-date.
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 12 May 2018, 01:49:19
(3 & 1/2 hrs to update Win10.)

Question.
Does anybody know what this refers to. 31 July 1950.
1524, Half masted colors in mourning for canadian pilots, crew members and civilians lost at ?Alert?

http://catalog.archives.gov/OpaAPI/media/24338174/content/dc-metro/rg-026/559642/0001-A1/Eastwind-WAG-279-1950/Eastwind-WAG-279-1950_0120.JPG (http://catalog.archives.gov/OpaAPI/media/24338174/content/dc-metro/rg-026/559642/0001-A1/Eastwind-WAG-279-1950/Eastwind-WAG-279-1950_0120.JPG)
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Hurlock on 12 May 2018, 02:13:06
On 31 July 1950, seven Royal Canadian Air Force (405 [Maritime Reconnaissance] Squadron) crew members and two civilian passengers aboard an RCAF Lancaster aircraft died in a crash while making a low-level parachute airdrop of supplies to the newly-established weather station in Alert, Northwest Territories, Canada. The parachute became entangled in the plane's tail and this caused the crash. The nine men were laid to their final rest near the western side of the Alert runway and a Memorial Cairn was erected next to their graves to honour them.

One of the civilians who died in this tragic crash was Colonel (Ret'd) Charles Hubbard, who was Chief of Arctic Section for the United States Weather Bureau. Col. (Ret'd) Hubbard was one of the original planners and supporters of the setting up the Arctic weather stations.

https://www.findagrave.com/cemetery/2489268/canadian-forces-station-alert
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 12 May 2018, 03:47:29
Thanks.
That was sad.
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: AvastMH on 14 May 2018, 19:28:59
What a tragic loss of life, Hurlock.  :'(
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Hanibal94 on 15 May 2018, 11:58:16
Yes, very sad.



There's been some more security patches for common programs.
First, Adobe Reader, Acrobat and Photoshop: https://www.theregister.co.uk/2018/05/14/adobe_critical_fixes/
These ones are easy - just open the program and click "Help", then "Check for Updates".

Next, there's a nasty hole in 7-Zip - it allows remote code execution by way of poisoned RAR files!
https://landave.io/2018/05/7-zip-from-uninitialized-memory-to-remote-code-execution/

Fixing it requires an update to 18.05, but unfortunately, 7-Zip does not have a built-in updater like a lot of apps.
So you will have to manually fetch the update - I recommend uninstalling the old version, then downloading and installing the new one: https://www.7-zip.org/download.html
That's the cleanest way.

As always, it's best to install the fixes ASAP.
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: AvastMH on 15 May 2018, 17:09:47

There's been some more security patches for common programs.
First, Adobe Reader, Acrobat and Photoshop: https://www.theregister.co.uk/2018/05/14/adobe_critical_fixes/
These ones are easy - just open the program and click "Help", then "Check for Updates".

Next, there's a nasty hole in 7-Zip - it allows remote code execution by way of poisoned RAR files!
https://landave.io/2018/05/7-zip-from-uninitialized-memory-to-remote-code-execution/

Fixing it requires an update to 18.05, but unfortunately, 7-Zip does not have a built-in updater like a lot of apps.
So you will have to manually fetch the update - I recommend uninstalling the old version, then downloading and installing the new one: https://www.7-zip.org/download.html
That's the cleanest way.

As always, it's best to install the fixes ASAP.

Thanks very much hanibal! :D  I scarcely understand 7-zip but I do have it so will deal with that hole. :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Randi on 17 May 2018, 09:32:21
Happy Birthday
to
DJ

(http://rlv.zcache.com/happy_birthday_ham_radio_caveman_card-re01e4a046e0c400896bbfedcda8a149b_xvuak_8byvr_512.jpg?bg=0xffffff)
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Michael on 17 May 2018, 10:03:56
Yes, DJ.

 Happy Birthday from me!
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: AvastMH on 17 May 2018, 19:28:34
I hope you've had a wonderful birthday DJ :D

(https://i.imgur.com/vpsAYtS.png)

(https://i.imgur.com/SwMOATt.gif)
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Dean on 18 May 2018, 19:31:53
(https://i.imgur.com/HXKEJUZ.jpg)
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 19 May 2018, 06:16:09
Heard down under a rumour there is a wedding going on in the UK.
T/F
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Bob on 19 May 2018, 09:34:47
There has been some mention of such proceedings in the media around here, too.
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Hanibal94 on 19 May 2018, 16:34:26
Yes, there was a wedding - read all about it here! (http://botnik.org/content/royal-wedding.html)  ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Michael on 19 May 2018, 17:31:38
 ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 19 May 2018, 18:17:41
Likewise  ;D ;D ;D

Nice find Hanibal
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: jil on 20 May 2018, 03:10:40
Likewise  ;D ;D ;D

Nice find Hanibal
And thirded by me!
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 20 May 2018, 18:12:30
This week in Australia is 'National Scam Awareness Week'
For more info on this send me your credit card number and pin number and I "promise" to send you more details.







(Just joking about the CC)




Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Craig on 21 May 2018, 09:44:49
My MasterCard number is 103459628134.  :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Michael on 21 May 2018, 12:40:53
Just so you know, if a debit for high tea for two at the Empress Hotel shows up, it wasn't me!  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Michael on 21 May 2018, 15:03:36
Under the isn't science wonderful heading:

USCG Cutter Storis, on 02 September 1952 (https://catalog.archives.gov/OpaAPI/media/38547954/content/dc-metro/rg-026/559642/2017-01/storis-wmec-38-1952/storis-wmec-38-1952_0355.JPG), at her computed location of: 63.92 -161.49 recorded sunset at 1902.

Converting her position to degrees/minutes/seconds:
$ cardinals 63.92 -161.49
63o55'12" -161o29'24"


Putting in her Time Zone (11), date and location, we get:

$ cmlight .q .tz11 .a19520902 6355:-16129
TZ = UTC+11
location: lat:   63'55N lon:  161'29W elev:        0m
Date         Morning Twilight   Evening Twilight      SUN          MOON      %Moon
YYYY/MM/DD   Astro Naut  Civil  Civil Naut  Astro  Rise  Set    Rise  Set  Visible
**********************************************************************************
1952/09/02   **:** 02:24 03:37  19:52 21:04 **:**  04:28 19:01  18:46 **:**     93
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: AvastMH on 21 May 2018, 16:30:49
That'll teach me to miss out on getting here one day - I could have costed a new kitchen to Craig's bank account - pah! ::) :o

That sunset calculation is awesome Michael! I wish I knew how to do that. Someone should chuck me out on a boat with the requisite gadgets and a 'how to work out your location' book, then I'd have to learn. When I did my O Levels you had to be able to do latitude, longitude, and working out where you were on the planet. Sadly 45 years have washed the technical details into the backwaters of my memory banks.  ::) ;) :D
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Randi on 21 May 2018, 19:31:52
Sorry to bother you, Craig, but they want the expiration date...
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Michael on 21 May 2018, 21:37:39
And, if you don't mind, the three numbers on the back.  ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 22 May 2018, 00:41:34
 ::)
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Craig on 22 May 2018, 09:57:11
 ;D ;D ;D

Michael knows my lat-long so with a few tweaks to his script he can get the missing credit card info. "% Moon Visible" is a key variable.  :D

Under the isn't science wonderful heading:

USCG Cutter Storis, on 02 September 1952 (https://catalog.archives.gov/OpaAPI/media/38547954/content/dc-metro/rg-026/559642/2017-01/storis-wmec-38-1952/storis-wmec-38-1952_0355.JPG), at her computed location of: 63.92 -161.49 recorded sunset at 1902.

Converting her position to degrees/minutes/seconds:
$ cardinals 63.92 -161.49
63o55'12" -161o29'24"


Putting in her Time Zone (11), date and location, we get:

$ cmlight .q .tz11 .a19520902 6355:-16129
TZ = UTC+11
location: lat:   63'55N lon:  161'29W elev:        0m
Date         Morning Twilight   Evening Twilight      SUN          MOON      %Moon
YYYY/MM/DD   Astro Naut  Civil  Civil Naut  Astro  Rise  Set    Rise  Set  Visible
**********************************************************************************
1952/09/02   **:** 02:24 03:37  19:52 21:04 **:**  04:28 19:01  18:46 **:**     93

Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Randi on 22 May 2018, 19:21:42
Happy Birthday
to
Tegwen
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Dean on 25 May 2018, 19:22:07
(https://i.imgur.com/HXKEJUZ.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/w90v0mz.jpg)
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: AvastMH on 27 May 2018, 05:47:34
Oh!! I missed your birthday Tegwen. I hope you had a great day!! :o

(https://i.imgur.com/uzhGa1H.png?1)
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: AvastMH on 27 May 2018, 05:50:36
I bumped into this - Sumburgh foghorn - not literally speaking of course...

https://duckduckgo.com/?q=shetland+island+sounds&t=ffnt&atb=v117-4_f&iax=videos&ia=videos&iai=iHCmzvzCmhI

I just enjoyed it - nice little video. :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Randi on 27 May 2018, 22:32:28
In the deepest Arctic, sled dogs, polar bears and famed seed vault face melting snow and ice (https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/health-science/in-the-deepest-arctic-sled-dogs-polar-bears-and-famed-seed-vault-face-melting-snow-and-ice/2018/05/25/9fecdb42-53bd-11e8-a551-5b648abe29ef_story.html?utm_term=.d063c89aac94&wpisrc=nl_headlines&wpmm=1)

Global Seed Vault (https://www.google.com/maps/place/Svalbard+Global+Seed+Vault/@78.2384824,15.4582446,2917m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m12!1m6!3m5!1s0x0:0x15fa4670a5924662!2sSvalbard+Global+Seed+Vault!8m2!3d78.2356772!4d15.4913249!3m4!1s0x0:0x15fa4670a5924662!8m2!3d78.2356772!4d15.4913249?hl=en-US)
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Michael on 29 May 2018, 20:37:38
Does anyone know what happened to the Office of Coast Survey Historical charts (https://historicalcharts.noaa.gov/historicals/search)?

I'm lost at sea...

It's down again...  :'( :'( :'(
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Hurlock on 30 May 2018, 01:18:45
Does anyone know what happened to the Office of Coast Survey Historical charts (https://historicalcharts.noaa.gov/historicals/search)?

I'm lost at sea...

It's down again...  :'( :'( :'(

Seems to be OK now.
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Tegwen on 30 May 2018, 13:14:22
Not been on here for a few days. Thank you all very much for the birthday wishes. Greatly appreciated & unexpected.
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Caro on 01 June 2018, 12:14:04
Happy birthday Helen!
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Helen J on 01 June 2018, 12:48:47
Thanks, Caro.  Just celebrated by finishing the first edit of Blenheim.  Sadly I go away tomorrow morning for several days of meetings, so won't be able to get any further until my return.
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Thursday Next on 01 June 2018, 14:22:11
Many Happy Returns, Helen!
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Michael on 01 June 2018, 14:37:38
Happy Birthday, Helen!
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Hanibal94 on 01 June 2018, 16:51:57
Happy Birthday, Helen!
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Randi on 01 June 2018, 17:37:20
Happy Birthday
to
Helen

(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-f9EVTEHBQ2U/T2p2_OlzHnI/AAAAAAAAAjM/VaTzdAGyNyI/s1600/IMG_5220.JPG)
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Dean on 01 June 2018, 19:29:12
(https://i.imgur.com/mtV7DWE.jpg).    (https://i.imgur.com/Pe4VikM.jpg)
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: AvastMH on 01 June 2018, 20:31:58
A Happy Birthday to you Helen!

 :D :D :D


(https://i.imgur.com/wg9q310.png)
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Randi on 01 June 2018, 20:36:21
Yum! ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: jil on 02 June 2018, 03:14:27
A belated happy birthday to Helen!

(I really need to eat some cake now! )
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Randi on 03 June 2018, 13:35:17
Here?s why scientists are questioning whether ?sonic attacks? are real (https://www.sciencenews.org/article/scientists-are-questioning-whether-sonic-attacks-are-real?utm_source=editorspicks060318&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Editors_Picks)
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: AvastMH on 04 June 2018, 19:00:32
Here?s why scientists are questioning whether ?sonic attacks? are real (https://www.sciencenews.org/article/scientists-are-questioning-whether-sonic-attacks-are-real?utm_source=editorspicks060318&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Editors_Picks)

That was an interesting one...I'm not sure I'd be susceptible. I have tinnitus going off a lot of the time (not bad - very quiet in fact). I'd probably think that I was just attacking myself with another round of that ailment  ;) ;) ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Randi on 06 June 2018, 09:02:03
(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/VBnVGzVsDrA/hqdefault.jpg)
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Caro on 06 June 2018, 11:57:59
 ::) Quite a production!

Happy birthday Craig
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Michael on 06 June 2018, 12:28:32
Yes, Craig, and a big

Happy Birthday

from me, too.
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: propriome on 06 June 2018, 12:45:25
Happy Birthday!!
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Hanibal94 on 06 June 2018, 13:09:59
Happy Birthday, Craig!
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Bob on 06 June 2018, 13:56:49
Happy Birthday, Craig!
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 06 June 2018, 16:57:00
Ditto to Craig (and all the others I have missed.  ::) )

Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Randi on 07 June 2018, 10:01:14
A big analysis of environmental data strengthens the case for plant-based diets (https://www.sciencenews.org/article/plant-based-diets-greenhouse-gases-environment?utm_source=email&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=latest-newsletter-v2)
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Hanibal94 on 07 June 2018, 13:36:16
May's best science images, selected by Nature's photo team (https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-018-05318-3)
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Randi on 07 June 2018, 13:49:14
Great pictures!
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Michael on 07 June 2018, 14:10:51
For the ice hunters. Here are some familiar places for those of you noble ice hunters who have been sailing up and down the Inside Passage.

Eldred Rock Light Station,   58.97, -135.22, Alaska
(https://i.imgur.com/ZRfNbps.jpg?1)
Taken in 2011 on a trip from Skagway to Juneau by catamaran.



Boat Bluff Light Station,   52.66, -128.53, British Columbia
(https://i.imgur.com/x8UbEN4.jpg?1)
Taken in April 2012 on a trip from Skagway, Alaska to Bellingham, Washington on the Alaska State Ferry.


Dryad Point Light Station,   52.19, -128.11, British Columbia
(https://i.imgur.com/DEQWUKv.jpg?1)
Taken in April 2012 on a trip from Skagway, Alaska to Bellingham, Washington on the Alaska State Ferry.
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 10 June 2018, 19:35:22
If you get the Garden Gnome Doodle my best score so far is 1198
The link for others is
g.co/doodle/afgq6m (http://g.co/doodle/afgq6m)
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Bob on 10 June 2018, 19:44:41
Nice!

For the ice hunters. Here are some familiar places for those of you noble ice hunters who have been sailing up and down the Inside Passage.
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Thursday Next on 11 June 2018, 15:23:06
If you get the Garden Gnome Doodle my best score so far is 1198
The link for others is
g.co/doodle/afgq6m (http://g.co/doodle/afgq6m)

Well done!  I couldn't even work out what I was supposed to do - it just kept telling me I was "Too late!" or "Too early!"  ???
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 11 June 2018, 17:27:20
Tap the spacebar to start the trebuchet, when the gnome gets near the top hit the space bar again to launch the Gnome.
To early it goes up and down, to late it plows into the ground.
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: AvastMH on 11 June 2018, 18:31:13
I tried the squat yellow gnome and got 281m ....he kept bouncing onwards by hitting old tree stumps...  ;D thanks for the tips Stuart!  ;D ;D

(https://i.imgur.com/oYk0sdj.png)
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 11 June 2018, 18:49:07
Joan, I will say it is hard for me to repeat the score.
To get that I had the Gnome up in the dark sky and the stars a few time.
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Randi on 11 June 2018, 21:17:36
Caution:
Quote
Lasik eye surgery to improve vision is widely perceived to be a foolproof procedure. A growing body of evidence (https://www.nytimes.com/2018/06/11/well/lasik-complications-vision.html?emc=edit_ne_20180611&nl=evening-briefing&nlid=7926703920180611&te=1) suggests otherwise.
Enduring side effects can include light sensitivity, double vision and visual distortions. Some can last months, or longer.
?My vision is considered 20/20, because I see the A?s, B?s and C?s all the way down the chart,? said Geobanni Ramirez, 33, who had the surgery two years ago. ?But I see three A?s, three B?s, three C?s.?
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Thursday Next on 12 June 2018, 15:16:03
Tap the spacebar to start the trebuchet, when the gnome gets near the top hit the space bar again to launch the Gnome.
To early it goes up and down, to late it plows into the ground.

Ah, much easier using the space bar instead of clicking the mouse!  I actually got some scores this time  :) (nowhere near yours, obviously!)
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 12 June 2018, 17:09:40
Happy 24th Birthday Hanibal for when the clock rolls past midnight.
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: AvastMH on 12 June 2018, 17:44:06
Caution:
Quote
Lasik eye surgery to improve vision is widely perceived to be a foolproof procedure. A growing body of evidence (https://www.nytimes.com/2018/06/11/well/lasik-complications-vision.html?emc=edit_ne_20180611&nl=evening-briefing&nlid=7926703920180611&te=1) suggests otherwise.
Enduring side effects can include light sensitivity, double vision and visual distortions. Some can last months, or longer.
?My vision is considered 20/20, because I see the A?s, B?s and C?s all the way down the chart,? said Geobanni Ramirez, 33, who had the surgery two years ago. ?But I see three A?s, three B?s, three C?s.?

That's an interesting one. :o I'd like to know more about that - is this poor operatives - or is it what happens across the boards. Luckily not a worry for me. 20/20 with no glasses - very fortunate indeed.
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Randi on 13 June 2018, 00:06:17
Happy Birthday
to
Hanibal94

(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/uVlHQyA8VZw/maxresdefault.jpg)
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Hurlock on 13 June 2018, 00:38:43
Happy Birthday!
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: propriome on 13 June 2018, 04:35:01
Happy birthday!
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Dean on 13 June 2018, 07:49:11
(https://i.imgur.com/mtV7DWE.jpg).   (https://i.imgur.com/HXKEJUZ.jpg).   (https://i.imgur.com/kURjQ7T.jpg)
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Bob on 13 June 2018, 07:49:54
Happy Birthday!
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Helen J on 13 June 2018, 10:20:38
Happy birthday, Hanibal!
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Michael on 13 June 2018, 11:05:05
Happy Birthday, Hanibal!!!

And all my best wishes for many more.
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Thursday Next on 13 June 2018, 15:22:27
Happy Birthday, Hanibal!
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Caro on 13 June 2018, 16:13:36
Happy birthday Hanibal :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: jil on 13 June 2018, 17:53:46
Happy Birthday, Hanibal, hope you've had a great day!
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: AvastMH on 13 June 2018, 18:30:34
A very very happy birthday to you hanibal!  I hope you've had a great day!!

(https://i.imgur.com/2lhhkbe.png)
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Randi on 14 June 2018, 10:49:27
Pittsburgh isn't just skyscrapers...
Black bear sighted in Morningside, Highland Park (http://www.post-gazette.com/news/environment/2018/06/13/black-bear-sighting-Morningside-Highland-Park/stories/201806130195?utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_content=most-emailed-news&utm_campaign=Headlines-Newsletter)
I have seen deer in Squirrel Hill (yes, squirrels too). The gardeners and home owners hate them.
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Randi on 14 June 2018, 11:27:16
TechMan Texts: Microsoft didn't really detect that security error (http://www.post-gazette.com/business/tech-news/2018/06/12/Microsoft-didnt-really-detect-that-security-error-scam-malware/stories/201806100060)

A friend got swindled by a phone call about fixing (for a fee) the computer problem (caused by the caller) she was having...
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: AvastMH on 14 June 2018, 18:53:18
Oh dear - The Pittsburgh Gazette isn't loading up just at the moment.  What with computer swindlers at every click of your mouse, and bears on your doorstep, is Pittsburgh safe?  :o ;) ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Hanibal94 on 15 June 2018, 15:21:14
Thank you for the wishes, everyone!

It was nice. Got a couple of presents (and some money!), Mom made an excellent cake, and we had dinner at our favorite tapas restaurant tonight.
In a month, I will go to the US for the usual summer vacation with grandparents. Really looking forward to that.

(Thanks for "I don't know how to act my age", Dean! That's pretty clever - perhaps I shall use it in real life!)
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 19 June 2018, 19:22:19
This answer is going to be so obvious that I may be embarrassed to ask it.

For some time Eastwind has been doing some "BT" observations in Baffin Bay.
What does BT stand for?  :-[

Ex
http://catalog.archives.gov/OpaAPI/media/24339179/content/dc-metro/rg-026/559642/0001-A1/Eastwind-WAG-279-1952/Eastwind-WAG-279-1952_0388.JPG (http://catalog.archives.gov/OpaAPI/media/24339179/content/dc-metro/rg-026/559642/0001-A1/Eastwind-WAG-279-1952/Eastwind-WAG-279-1952_0388.JPG)
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Randi on 19 June 2018, 19:34:18
Seems to be Bathythermograph (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bathythermograph)

(from http://www.oac.cdlib.org/view?docId=kt0199n5xr&brand=oac4&doc.view=entire_text)
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 19 June 2018, 21:42:18
Sounds good to me. They lost a few of those and had to get some airlifted in from Boston.
 ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 21 June 2018, 02:03:36
Probably the most accurate location I have seen.
Eastwind 16 Aug 1952.  2200hrs

Reached 82 38 20N, 61 51W.
Mushroonm Point 223T, 12,900yds
These? Point 193T, 11,600yds
Cape Dawson 175T, 17,500yds
Black Cape 171T 25,300yds
Felden Peninsula 323T 20.6 mi
Cape Richardson 237T, 24,500yds

Set record Northing for this vessel under own power.
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: AvastMH on 21 June 2018, 04:08:01
 ;D

Looks like someone was trying to avoid an awful job like holystoning luckily for us  ;) :D
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 21 June 2018, 04:10:51
If I have got all that wrong and we end up in Siberia, I think Michael will make me do more than Holy stone.
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Michael on 21 June 2018, 11:29:14
I think that's the farthest north I've seen any of our vessels so far! Very cool, I'm sure the weather observers in Alert were very happy to see them.

Alert's Max/Min for that day: 1.1/-3.3C.

Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 21 June 2018, 16:48:41
10/10 ice as thick as 18ft. had to use explosives to make way.
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Michael on 21 June 2018, 17:57:30
You should put it in an ice museum and charge the people a buck and a half just to see it.

Quote
In the Arctic, the sea ice hit a record low this year for ice older than five years, and scientists say the summers will be ice-free in the Arctic Ocean in the future ? the only question is when. The last four years have been the four lowest on record for the maximum winter sea ice extent and clearly, this trend will continue.
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Michael on 01 July 2018, 09:58:16
The hardworking transcribers on Yorktown:

have pushed the number of completed WRs on Yorktown, the last Phase III ship, to 99%.

I propose a lottery the winner being the person who is closest to guessing the completion date, with bragging rights as a prize.

On the first of each month I run a script that estimates the completion date, based on the estimated number of WRs remaining for each ship, and the number of WRs for each ship entered for the previous month.

This was the summary for this morning, July 1;

During the past month:

   4 people were active.

   The four most active people were:
         lollia paolina with  3463 WRs
                 Lekiam with  2879 WRs
                leelaht with  2430 WRs
                Zovacor with   528 WRs
   and, a total of 9300 WRs were entered.

No-one broke into the top 100 this month.

========================================

Phase III estimated completion date is:  21 Jul 2018

Ship          WRs left
----------------------
Yorktown          6212
----------------------
Total:            6212


This was the weekly summary from last Monday:
During the past week:

   3 people were active.

   The three most active people were:
         lollia paolina with   840 WRs
                leelaht with   696 WRs
                 Lekiam with   672 WRs
   and, a total of 2208 WRs were entered.


The percentage done, 99%, is rounded off, so somewhere between 98.5 and 99.5% of the total has been done.

So, my guess for the completion of Phase III is 25 July at 2200 UTC.

Good luck!
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Randi on 01 July 2018, 12:19:52
Good work everyone!
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Hanibal94 on 01 July 2018, 14:55:10
25th July - isn't that exactly six years after Phase III was launched? I know it was around then, but I don't remember the exact date...

But yes, this is great! I look forward to the completion (already got something planned for the Gallery...)
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Michael on 01 July 2018, 15:00:35
So what's your guess for the completion date?
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Helen J on 01 July 2018, 16:43:32
Given the well known effect of being close to finishing (staying up far longer than you intended etc), my guess is July 21st at 2100 UTC.
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 01 July 2018, 17:20:34
When you finish Yorktown please DO NOT come over to Eastwind as I only have a year and a half to finish the whole set of voyages.
That will be done before end of July 2018.

Thanks.
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Hanibal94 on 02 July 2018, 15:01:51
So what's your guess for the completion date?

I will go for July 22nd, because... I dunno. Somehow, I like the number.
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Michael on 02 July 2018, 15:50:06
So what's your guess for the completion date of Phase III (USS Yorktown)?

Here are the guesses to date:
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: AvastMH on 02 July 2018, 17:09:24
Hmmmm - knowing how we finished other sections of OW in super fast time I'm going to try July 20th then :D
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Hurlock on 02 July 2018, 17:17:36
I think you will all be super pumped and will finish on the 19th July
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: AvastMH on 02 July 2018, 17:28:07
I think you will all be super pumped and will finish on the 19th July

 ;D



OK all you super computer folk...I've got a computer bug ... I mean it is a bug living between the screen and on top of the pixels. It's wandering around and freaking me out I can tell you. At the moment it's vanished into who knows what bit of my machine. Any suggestions for a name as it looks like we'll be enjoying each other's company for a while.  Oooo - here it comes crawling onto this text box, nope, veered off into the outer reaches of the forum pages. here it is about 10 minutes ago...

(https://i.imgur.com/m18o9Cx.png)



Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 02 July 2018, 17:49:06
BuggaBoo?


(Boo to the bug)
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: AvastMH on 02 July 2018, 17:57:16
 ;D ;D ;D

If only I could re-boot the (computer) bug out of the system  ::) ;) ;D

Stuart - it just crawled over your avatar nose  :o
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Randi on 02 July 2018, 18:36:36
If you are running Microsoft, you could call 'it' Bill - or Billie ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 02 July 2018, 20:12:45
;D ;D ;D

If only I could re-boot the (computer) bug out of the system  ::) ;) ;D

Stuart - it just crawled over your avatar nose  :o

That' snot funny Joan.   ???
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Michael on 02 July 2018, 20:52:39
;D ;D ;D

If only I could re-boot the (computer) bug out of the system  ::) ;) ;D

Stuart - it just crawled over your avatar nose  :o

That' snot funny Joan.   ???

Do you get the same bug when you run a different browser? If so, you might want to re-install your main browser. Hanibal or other techies might have a better idea. That's all I can come up with.
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Hanibal94 on 03 July 2018, 12:13:25
I'm afraid there's not much you can do, since it is on the inside of the screen - that would require a lot of disassembly by a professional.
But whatever you do, don't do this: https://kotaku.com/i-squished-a-bug-inside-my-monitors-screen-and-now-i-wa-1796152848
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: AvastMH on 03 July 2018, 13:23:36
 ;D ;D ;D

Stuart - it snot a problem anymore - I guess it crawled up your avatar hooter somehow and is now out of sight. Out of sight = out of mind  ;D

Michael - tried firefox, but even setting a fox on it didn't sort it out.  :-[

Randi - nice one, if only it could find the Gates to get out of the screen.  :o

hanibal - Wah! What a nightmare- I realised that it was in the screen when I tried to blow it away. Next thought was absolutely to avoid squishing it since its broken body would shout its recriminations every time I turned the screen on.  ???

A friend of mine squished an ant that had crawled onto his text book and flicked it aside. A few minutes later the body was returned to the death zone by another ant. Ant 2 walked over and dumped its dead friend right back at the crime scene. Chris swept the body away and dismissed the whole event. A few minutes later Ant 2 returned with its dead friend and dumped it on the death site again. It happened a third time at which point he professed his misery and guilt, shut his book quietly and slunk away.  ;D

And as I write I realise that Billi Bug-a-boo really has slunk away.  Bye bye Billi  ;) :D
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Randi on 05 July 2018, 09:49:47
Quote from: http://pge.post-gazette.com/.fullpdfs/2018/07/20180705.pdf
Wednesday saw both the hottest Fourth of July in Pittsburgh since 2012, peaking at over 90 degrees, and yet another night of flash flooding and downed trees across the city, but the fireworks at Point State Park still lit up the sky over Downtown.

Lots of thunder - some very loud - too during the evening and night (when I was trying to sleep) :P
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Randi on 05 July 2018, 13:26:49
Happy Birthday
to
Stuart

(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2016/01/26/22/309B3E9100000578-0-image-a-1_1453845695895.jpg)
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Bob on 05 July 2018, 14:30:30
Happy Birthday!
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Hurlock on 05 July 2018, 14:59:55
Happy Birthday
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: AvastMH on 05 July 2018, 15:52:54
A very Happy Birthday to you Stuart :D :D :D

(https://i.imgur.com/ffk0joR.png)
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Hanibal94 on 05 July 2018, 15:59:00
A very Happy Birthday to you, Stuart!

May you continue to baffle us with Aussie slang words  ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Caro on 05 July 2018, 16:43:46
Many happies, Stuart

Loving the lamington, meat pie, Vegemite and prawns-on-the-barbie cake.  :P ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: jil on 05 July 2018, 16:45:57
Happy Birthday, Stuart!
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 05 July 2018, 17:20:12
Well thank you all.
Completed 70 yrs, any more is a bonus.  ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Michael on 05 July 2018, 18:24:25
Yes, and a Very Happy Birthday from me, too.

You're just a young guy!  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Dean on 05 July 2018, 23:55:19
Dear Stuart:

(https://i.imgur.com/mtV7DWE.jpg).    (https://i.imgur.com/HXKEJUZ.jpg).    (https://i.imgur.com/kURjQ7T.jpg)
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Caro on 06 July 2018, 04:09:08
A public service announcement:
I got an email this morning claiming to be from PayPal, inviting me to 'update my information'.
(My email program flagged it as a possible scam.)
It has been forwarded it to spoof@paypal.com and deleted.
PayPal emails address you by name; if your name isn't there, assume it's a scam.


Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Helen J on 06 July 2018, 14:04:34
Thanks Caro - I've only recently signed up to Paypal, so it's good to know what to look out for on genuine emails.
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Dean on 06 July 2018, 20:12:39
Any time I get one of those types I delete the email and use MY Browser address with the company to contact for issues.

For phone calls I hang up and then use the number printed on the Credit card or whatever.
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: AvastMH on 07 July 2018, 14:26:18
Fine advice there Dean! When I paid for my holiday I sent 1GBP first then called to check that it was with the right people. You can't be too careful these days!

On the lighter side of life I saw this on the back of a mobile home/van yesterday...

(https://i.imgur.com/FhN46Ql.png)

 ::) ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Dean on 07 July 2018, 17:28:25
Excellent!

There are some advantages to Alzheimer's. You meet new people all the time AND you get to hide your own Easter eggs.   ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 08 July 2018, 03:07:35
Excellent!

There are some advantages to Alzheimer's. You meet new people all the time AND you get to hide your own Easter eggs.   ;)

Even at Christmas.  ::)
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Helen J on 10 July 2018, 12:15:28
Sir David Attenborough (aka Boaty McBoatface) is ready for launch!

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-44780708
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Randi on 10 July 2018, 12:38:49
8)
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 10 July 2018, 17:47:47
The monster berg link on that page is also interesting (well to me that is)
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Michael on 10 July 2018, 19:34:33
Here's another one! Just make sure, Stuart, when you see one of these coming your way that you turn the Eastwind around and head in the other direction!  ;D

https://youtube.com/embed/7tyfSlnMe8E
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Hanibal94 on 14 July 2018, 12:41:19
Sir David Attenborough (aka Boaty McBoatface) is ready for launch!

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-44780708

And she's in the water!
https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-44828136
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: AvastMH on 14 July 2018, 17:31:41
Hooooorah!!!!! I hope she uncovers great science and I hope that the rest of us learn how to look after the planet. It was great seeing Sir David in fine fettle at 92 yrs.  :D :D :D
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Helen J on 15 July 2018, 10:00:22
Hooooorah!!!!! I hope she uncovers great science and I hope that the rest of us learn how to look after the planet. It was great seeing Sir David in fine fettle at 92 yrs.  :D :D :D

And so say all of us!
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Randi on 15 July 2018, 13:24:04
Indeed!
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Randi on 17 July 2018, 14:43:11
Quote from: https://www.nytimes.com/2018/07/13/climate/greenland-giant-iceberg.html?rref=collection%2Fsectioncollection%2Fscience
A village in Greenland is on alert amid fears that a huge iceberg could break apart and send a flood wave over the settlement.
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Randi on 19 July 2018, 09:26:12
Happy Birthday
to
Dean

(http://i.imgur.com/aVXZ1jZ.jpg)

Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: jil on 19 July 2018, 09:57:35
Happy Birthday, Dean!
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Helen J on 19 July 2018, 10:08:16
Happy birthday, Dean, and many more of them (we can't have anyone dropping out of the team, can we?)  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Caro on 19 July 2018, 10:11:20
 HAPPY BIRTHDAY DEAN
(https://openclipart.org/image/2400px/svg_to_png/245707/weather-icons-round.png)

                                    ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Michael on 19 July 2018, 10:13:18
Yes, Dean, Happy Birthday!
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Thursday Next on 19 July 2018, 13:10:46
Many happy returns, Dean!
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Hurlock on 19 July 2018, 13:41:29
Happy Birthday
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Hanibal94 on 19 July 2018, 15:31:13
Happy Birthday to you, Dean! Hope you get to do something fun.
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Craig on 20 July 2018, 08:51:24
As one of the old weathered I wish you a happy birthday, Dean. ;) ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Dean on 21 July 2018, 08:18:52
Happy birthday, Dean, and many more of them (we can't have anyone dropping out of the team, can we?)  ;D ;D

Thank you all. I had a wonderful day. Got sailing with an old friend on his boat (let mine rest for the day!) and then a nice dinner and worked with my wife to guide a Road Scholar tour of our Herschell Carrousel Factory Museum (www.carrouselmuseum.org) where she is a volunteer docent & I volunteer on the Maintenance Team & am understudy to the OrganMaster. Now it's Onward & Upward!  ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Kevin on 21 July 2018, 10:10:57
Road Scholar -- my eldest (11) and his grandmother are on an intergenerational Road Scholar trip on the S/V Angelique https://www.sailangelique.com/ this week, followed by a visit to the USS Constitution in Boston. First tall ship experience.
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Randi on 21 July 2018, 18:00:01
Happy Birthday
to
Hurlock

(https://i.pinimg.com/736x/af/97/dd/af97dd6c82c055305f0cd815c6a2f4cc.jpg)

Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Michael on 21 July 2018, 20:28:43
Yes, indeed! Many happy returns from the other side of the other ocean!
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Helen J on 22 July 2018, 06:44:05
Road Scholar -- my eldest (11) and his grandmother are on an intergenerational Road Scholar trip on the S/V Angelique https://www.sailangelique.com/ this week, followed by a visit to the USS Constitution in Boston. First tall ship experience.

Good to know you're training up the next generation, Kevin!
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: AvastMH on 22 July 2018, 09:35:59

I hope you had a very happy birthday yesterday Hurlock  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

(https://i.imgur.com/ehR1NiA.png)
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Caro on 22 July 2018, 11:04:07
Belated happy birthday wishes, Hurlock  :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: AvastMH on 23 July 2018, 15:21:46
Road Scholar -- my eldest (11) and his grandmother are on an intergenerational Road Scholar trip on the S/V Angelique https://www.sailangelique.com/ this week, followed by a visit to the USS Constitution in Boston. First tall ship experience.

Good to know you're training up the next generation, Kevin!

It's got dark red sails - I am in love.. I hope your intergenerationals have a great deal of fun.  ;D
(My first sail ship was the CuttySark. Followed shortly after by the Victory.  Both sadly in dry docks - but still awe-inspiring.  I was about 11 then. :D )
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Randi on 24 July 2018, 10:21:15
Happy Birthday
to
Joke Slayer

(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-OAICVnWhM4g/Vq8Ik8QjHHI/AAAAAAAASuU/bAXmhgUd2AI/s1600/brighton-cakes-birthday-cake-hove-sussex-raspberries%2Bcopy.jpg)
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Michael on 24 July 2018, 10:40:58
Yes, a Very Happy Birthday!!!
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Bob on 24 July 2018, 10:57:59
Happy Birthday!
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Hurlock on 24 July 2018, 14:09:52
Happy Birthday
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Hanibal94 on 24 July 2018, 15:31:21
Happy Birthday, Joke Slayer!
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: AvastMH on 24 July 2018, 16:32:36
A very happy birthday to you
Joke Slayer


(https://i.imgur.com/FdsaA5E.png)

;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: propriome on 25 July 2018, 03:17:15
Happy birthday!
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Randi on 26 July 2018, 00:04:08
Mars (probably) has a lake of liquid water (https://www.sciencenews.org/article/mars-may-have-lake-liquid-water-search-life?tgt=nr)
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Michael on 26 July 2018, 09:46:36
Mars (probably) has a lake of liquid water (https://www.sciencenews.org/article/mars-may-have-lake-liquid-water-search-life?tgt=nr)

Oh good. Fishing, swimming, boating.  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: AvastMH on 26 July 2018, 18:01:01
Mars (probably) has a lake of liquid water (https://www.sciencenews.org/article/mars-may-have-lake-liquid-water-search-life?tgt=nr)

What? Oh no! The Earth is heating up so much that now we're melting the ice on Mars?  Oh calamity!!  :o ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: AvastMH on 27 July 2018, 10:24:12
Mars (probably) has a lake of liquid water (https://www.sciencenews.org/article/mars-may-have-lake-liquid-water-search-life?tgt=nr)

What? Oh no! The Earth is heating up so much that now we're melting the ice on Mars?  Oh calamity!!  :o ;)

Some jokes come back to haunt one... :'( :'( :'(

http://www.ox.ac.uk/news/2018-07-27-heatwave-was-triggered-climate-change-according-new-research
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Helen J on 27 July 2018, 10:28:38
An interesting bit of early citizen science on this BBC Radio programme from yesterday - how reports from the eruption of Krakatoa accidentally led to the discovery of the jet stream.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b0bc6hh0
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Randi on 27 July 2018, 10:53:35
8)
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Hanibal94 on 06 August 2018, 10:27:42
With the completion of the Yorktown just now, Old Weather Classic is 100% done - after just over six years!
Wow... what an impressive feat. I remember how it looked so big, so unmanageable, when we first started out.
But we kept going, completed the ships one by one despite all difficulties (Remember the Patterson? I do!), and now we've finished it. All of it.

Great job, everybody!
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Helen J on 06 August 2018, 11:56:03
Well done to us!  I certainly remember Patterson - she was mostly what I did on OW Classic ....  ;D 
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: AvastMH on 06 August 2018, 16:26:08
With the completion of the Yorktown just now, Old Weather Classic is 100% done - after just over six years!
Wow... what an impressive feat. I remember how it looked so big, so unmanageable, when we first started out.
But we kept going, completed the ships one by one despite all difficulties (Remember the Patterson? I do!), and now we've finished it. All of it.

Great job, everybody!

I wish that I had been here at the very beginning. What an epic piece of work. OldWeatherers - you rock!  :D 8) :D
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Randi on 13 August 2018, 09:34:19
If anyone visits Oakland, California...
The CG historian has suggested that a copy of the Bear 1920 log, which we do not have, is in the library special collections there ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Michael on 13 August 2018, 20:48:58
 :'( :'( :'(
Should have told me in Apr/May. I would have had the choice of baby-sitting or scanning old logs!  ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: AvastMH on 14 August 2018, 18:17:49
:'( :'( :'(
Should have told me in Apr/May. I would have had the choice of baby-sitting or scanning old logs!  ;D

If the baby sleeps well you could probably have done both at the same time  ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Michael on 14 August 2018, 18:20:39
  :-[

I'm a man. We don't multitask.
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: AvastMH on 14 August 2018, 18:26:37
  :-[

I'm a man. We don't multitask.

 ;D ;D ;D  never mind Michael - what you singularly task, you singularly task very very well  8)
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 15 August 2018, 01:40:59
Michael, What, you mean you cannot do two single tasks at the same time.    ???
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Michael on 15 August 2018, 12:51:10
Michael, What, you mean you cannot do two single tasks at the same time.    ???
Nope!   :-[
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Michael on 21 August 2018, 16:13:54
We're just back from visiting family and friends in southern and central British Columbia and Alberta. The one thing I wanted to do was to re-take a photo of the Athabaska Glacier (http://www.geonames.org/5887918/athabasca-glacier.html) that I took on August 17, 1968, which I did on the 17th of August this year.

A couple of notes. So far this has been the third worst season for wild fires in B.C. Last year was the worst. The image from this August is not very clear because of the widespread smoke. Luckily for me, the smoke wasn't as bad at this time as it was at other times during our trip, sometimes the visibility was as low as 1/2 mile. As you can see, the glacier has retreated west of the moraine that you can see in the foreground of the later photo. In 1968 it was very close to the lake, which is now slightly larger than it was then. There is now a path that you can see on which you can walk to the toe of the glacier. The lower parking lot would have been just under ice fifty years ago.

Athabasca Glacer, August 17, 1968

(https://i.imgur.com/cjQdGW8.jpg?1)

Athabasca Glacer, August 17, 2018

(https://i.imgur.com/82ByxqB.jpg?1)

At first I thought this was the result of climate change, but someone said that was fake news, and the smaller size of the glacier was due to Australian tourists chipping off ice to put in their beer and wine.  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Randi on 21 August 2018, 19:47:29
Stern of World War II U.S. destroyer discovered off remote Alaskan island by NOAA-supported scientists (http://www.noaa.gov/media-release/stern-of-world-war-ii-us-destroyer-discovered-off-remote-alaskan-island-by-noaa)
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Randi on 21 August 2018, 20:00:12
Today in Naval History
1883 The installation of the first electric lighting on board a U.S. Navy ship is completed on board USS Trenton.
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Randi on 21 August 2018, 21:32:57
Daily Precipitation Map (https://www.cocorahs.org/Maps/ViewMap.aspx?state=usa)
Thanks to Dean ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Hurlock on 22 August 2018, 02:32:12
Today in Naval History
1883 The installation of the first electric lighting on board a U.S. Navy ship is completed on board USS Trenton.

The lighting on the USS Albatross was installed about a year earlier than that and was the first US Government ship with electric lighting.  I think this was mainly to allow the laboratories on board to sort biological specimens from the dredges at night.  It was also used sometimes to attract specimens to the ship at night.
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Randi on 22 August 2018, 08:22:48
8) 8) 8)
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Thursday Next on 22 August 2018, 12:03:05
We're just back from visiting family and friends in southern and central British Columbia and Alberta. The one thing I wanted to do was to re-take a photo of the Athabaska Glacier (http://www.geonames.org/5887918/athabasca-glacier.html) that I took on August 17, 1968, which I did on the 17th of August this year.

A couple of notes. So far this has been the third worst season for wild fires in B.C. Last year was the worst. The image from this August is not very clear because of the widespread smoke. Luckily for me, the smoke wasn't as bad at this time as it was at other times during our trip, sometimes the visibility was as low as 1/2 mile. As you can see, the glacier has retreated west of the moraine that you can see in the foreground of the later photo. In 1968 it was very close to the lake, which is now slightly larger than it was then. There is now a path that you can see on which you can walk to the toe of the glacier. The lower parking lot would have been just under ice fifty years ago.

Athabasca Glacer, August 17, 1968

(https://i.imgur.com/cjQdGW8.jpg?1)

Athabasca Glacer, August 17, 2018

(https://i.imgur.com/82ByxqB.jpg?1)

At first I thought this was the result of climate change, but someone said that was fake news, and the smaller size of the glacier was due to Australian tourists chipping off ice to put in their beer and wine.  ;D ;D ;D

That is very frightening.  As is this: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/aug/21/arctics-strongest-sea-ice-breaks-up-for-first-time-on-record (https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/aug/21/arctics-strongest-sea-ice-breaks-up-for-first-time-on-record)
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Randi on 22 August 2018, 12:35:15
:-X
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Randi on 29 August 2018, 12:44:17
Quote from: http://www.post-gazette.com/life/lifestyle/2018/08/27/Britsburgh-World-War-I-WWI-Edwardian-British-American-Connections-Pittsburgh-beer-tea/stories/201808260036?utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_content=recommended-life&utm_campaign=Headlines-Newsletter
Britsburgh IV strikes a World War I theme

The fourth Britsburgh Festival, celebrating connections between Pittsburgh and Great Britain, is themed to World War I, which ended 100 years ago this November.
That's an appropriate "reminder to us all of the great sacrifice our forefathers made for world freedom that we enjoy today," notes Robert Charlesworth, chair of the event organized by the nonprofit British-American Connections Pittsburgh. The theme also ties in with the group's WWI Centennial Appeal for Veterans that started last fall (and continues, in a scaled-back way).
With 14 events so far, Britsburgh runs Sept. 4-9 with a strong British accent.
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Michael on 02 September 2018, 12:21:49
I've been getting the following message when trying to activate the OW Tools.

Quote
The server at owtools.scienceontheweb.net is taking too long to respond.

 :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Randi on 02 September 2018, 12:54:59
"Hmm. We're having trouble finding that site."

(http://www.stickpng.com/assets/images/580b57fcd9996e24bc43c4ae.png)
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Randi on 03 September 2018, 19:18:45
Quote from: https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/style/from-punishing-to-pleasurable-how-cursive-writing-is-looping-back-into-our-hearts/2018/08/31/aa180b9c-aa06-11e8-a8d7-0f63ab8b1370_story.html?utm_term=.80b5c6d1572e&wpisrc=nl_headlines&wpmm=1
From punishing to pleasurable, how cursive writing is looping back into our hearts

Brigid Guertin, executive director of the Danbury Museum & Historical Society, has struggled to find interns capable of deciphering the sepia-tinted documents of their city's handwritten past. "The majority of our assets are in cursive and not transcribed," she said.

So three years ago she launched cursive camp, in hopes of training tomorrow's interns today. Surprisingly, children and parents flocked to it.
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Randi on 03 September 2018, 21:11:09
A New Trick to Keep Barnacles From Sticking to Ships (https://www.nytimes.com/2018/08/27/science/barnacles-ships-coating.html?emc=edit_sc_20180828&nl=science-times&nl_art=&nlid=79267039edit_sc_20180828&ref=headline&te=1)
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Kevin on 05 September 2018, 05:33:13
I'm at A1 this week installing a massive new digital imaging facility in the Innovations Hub. 2 large format platforms for oversize material, 34 feet of workbench, 2 z-tables, space for 4 student interns and a project coordinator. I'll send pictures once its more than a pile of parts. It is hotter than the underworld in DC, for which I am poorly adapted. And so Seas of Knowledge is getting underway on a 3-year voyage of discovery through a shoot list of more than 5000 US Navy assets from the Civil War era (1861-1879). BTW, our imaging operation is now in a public area in the Archives, so its possible to visit once things are in full swing.
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Bob on 05 September 2018, 08:00:19
Sounds like fun!  8)

It is hotter than the underworld in DC...

 :-X

It's supposed to cool off this weekend.
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Randi on 05 September 2018, 08:36:56
Thanks, Kevin. Great to hear that Seas of Knowledge is moving along.

It's hot here too although it is supposed to be cooler tomorrow.



Quote from: Pittsburgh Post-Gazette
Early dismissals continue for schools

High temps expected through Thursday

By Elizabeth Behrman Pittsburgh Post-Gazette

Some students will be sent home early for at least a couple of days this week as a heat wave causes stifling temperatures in some of the area's school buildings.
All Pittsburgh Public Schools students were sent home two hours early Tuesday and will be dismissed early again on Wednesday, spokeswoman Ebony Pugh said. Students in the Butler Area, Shaler, Mount Pleasant and Laurel Highlands districts were among those who were also dismissed early Tuesday due to the heat.
With temperatures expected to reach at least 90 degrees, Ms. Pugh said some of the district's older school buildings can become sweltering.
"Those schools that don't have air conditioning can easily have classrooms that read above 100, which then becomes pretty difficult to be in for hours," Ms. Pugh said.
Tom Green, a meteorologist with the National Weather Service in Pittsburgh, said Tuesday's temperatures were expected to reach the low 90s, while Wednesday will be slightly cooler at around 90 degrees, but with higher humidity.
"We probably won't have too much relief," he said.
Temperatures are expected to be closer to 80 degrees by Friday.
"There's not a lot of times in September where we're at temperatures like this, but it does occur," Ms. Pugh said.
Not all of Pittsburgh's 54 schools have air conditioning, although the district aims to add cooling systems to most of them within the next 15 years. Some of the buildings are so old that adding the air conditioning systems poses a challenge, Ms. Pugh said.
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Kevin on 08 September 2018, 14:18:14
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2018/sep/05/huge-historical-national-archives-prize-papers-mail-captured-ships-online
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Thursday Next on 08 September 2018, 14:31:29
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2018/sep/05/huge-historical-national-archives-prize-papers-mail-captured-ships-online

I heard something about this on the radio the other day.  I wonder if it's going to be a Citizen History project?  Well, if they are looking for experienced transcribers ...
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Kevin on 08 September 2018, 14:47:49
(https://i.imgur.com/QDp5csbb.jpg)

Our new imaging installation for oversize volumes at Archives 1 Hub
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Michael on 08 September 2018, 14:54:17
 8) 8) 8)
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Kevin on 08 September 2018, 14:55:59
(https://i.imgur.com/1ucveyfb.jpg)

In this building.
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Kevin on 08 September 2018, 15:08:07
And this: http://www.kitchensisters.org/keepers
And yes I did.
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Michael on 08 September 2018, 15:19:37
Let us know when we can here you on the radio...
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Randi on 08 September 2018, 23:02:16
After a miserably hot week it is now in the high 50's F with rain.

Enjoying it!
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Helen J on 09 September 2018, 10:24:02
For those who can get BBC Radio 4, at 5pm today (Sunday) there's a programme about the 1918 flu epidemic.  It appears to be a repeat, but I hadn't heard it before, and I can't be the only one.  Available already on i-player if you can't listen at 5pm.
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Michael on 09 September 2018, 11:12:40
After a miserably hot week it is now in the high 50's F with rain.

Enjoying it!

We are getting our first rain since June, other than a 1 mm sprinkle a few weeks ago. Loving it, too, even though the total so far is just 4.8 mm!
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Randi on 09 September 2018, 11:34:15
Another lovely cold and rainy day ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Michael on 09 September 2018, 12:08:22
We had a 3.1 magnitude earthquake centered just 30 km south of us earlier this morning. I had just woken up and felt it shaking the bed. It lasted about 5 or 10 seconds.
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: jil on 09 September 2018, 12:37:24
For those who can get BBC Radio 4, at 5pm today (Sunday) there's a programme about the 1918 flu epidemic.  It appears to be a repeat, but I hadn't heard it before, and I can't be the only one.  Available already on i-player if you can't listen at 5pm.
Thanks, Helen, I hadn't spotted that. On my list of radio progs I need to catch up with.
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Helen J on 10 September 2018, 06:58:37
We had a 3.1 magnitude earthquake centered just 30 km south of us earlier this morning. I had just woken up and felt it shaking the bed. It lasted about 5 or 10 seconds.

Not the best way to start the day!  Good to know you're OK though.
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Michael on 11 September 2018, 12:59:01
OW Tools is back!

From Propriome this morning (my time)

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While i wait to see if awardspace is still worth our waiting, i've temporarily moved the site on another free hoster:

https://owtools.000webhostapp.com/owtools/

I won't add new places there for the moment, as it's using another database and i'd prefer not having to keep both aligned with updates.

Let me know:
- If the performances are better/worst than on previous host.
- If you find something that is not working... i've had to adjust a few little things in the code before new site was fully usable, mainly due to minor php and database settings.
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: propriome on 12 September 2018, 13:38:14
Just to let everyone know that also OWTools at its "official" url is now back and fully functional:

http://owtools.scienceontheweb.net/
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Michael on 12 September 2018, 14:09:05
 :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Randi on 12 September 2018, 19:41:08
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/1a/Thumb_up_icon.svg/768px-Thumb_up_icon.svg.png)
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Hanibal94 on 14 September 2018, 13:36:16
It's that time of year again - the Ig Nobel Prizes have been announced!
This year's winners are:

Medicine
Laugh: Marc Mitchell and David Wartinger, for using roller coaster rides to hasten the passage of kidney stones.

Think: Kidney stones account for around 300,000 emergency room visits each year, and patients usually just wait for the stones to pass, which can be a long and painful process. The recipients heard enough anecdotal reports of people passing stones more easily while bungee jumping or riding roller coasters (like the Big Thunder Mountain Railroad ride at Walt Disney World) that they deemed it worth investigating further. If you've ever had kidney stones, you'll value knowing that a rear seating position on a roller coaster is a good way to pass them more quickly.


Anthropology
Laugh: Tomas Persson, Gabriela-Alina Sauciuc, and Elaine Madsen, for collecting evidence, in a zoo, that chimpanzees imitate humans about as often, and about as well, as humans imitate chimpanzees.

Think: Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery. It's also crucial to human development, particularly when it comes to social bonds and the transfer of skills and knowledge. It has been assumed that chimpanzees and other non-human primates did not engage in imitation games. This study looking at interactions between chimpanzees and visitors to the zoo suggests that might not be the case. The chimpanzees proved to be more like humans in engaging in imitation games than previously believed.


Biology
Laugh: Paul Becher, Sebastien Lebreton, Erika Wallin, Erik Hedenstrom, Felipe Borrero-Echeverry, Marie Bengtsson, Volker Jorger, and Peter Witzgall, for demonstrating that wine experts can reliably identify, by smell, the presence of a single fly in a glass of wine.

Think: Female fruit flies emit a pheromone with a strong unpleasant scent easily detected by humans, which makes them a great way to tell male and female fruit flies apart. The researchers were able to identify the specific pheromone, so powerful a single female fly could spoil a glass of wine. After all, fruit flies love fruity things, like diving into that glass of wine you're trying to savor. Thanks to science, if a fly lands in your wine, you'll know immediately from the "off" smell and taste if it was a female fly. You can mourn her passing along with the loss of an excellent vintage.


Chemistry
Laugh: Paula Romao, Adilia Alarcao, and the late Cesar Viana, for measuring the degree to which human saliva is a good cleaning agent for dirty surfaces.

Think: Admit it, you've been known to occasionally use a bit of saliva to rub off a smudge now and then. Conservationists prefer their own saliva when cleaning delicate surfaces, like gold leaf or painted ceramics. The authors' experiment showed that intuition is good science: saliva cleans gilded surfaces in particular better than other cleaners used by conservationists. They even identified the likely component responsible, bringing us one step closer to producing a synthetic version of saliva for cleaning.


Medical Education
Laugh: Akira Horiuchi, for the medical report, "Colonoscopy in the Sitting Position: Lessons Learned from Self-Colonoscopy."

Think: Colonoscopies are never pleasant, but some people have more difficulty with them than others. There's a long tradition of scientists using themselves as guinea pigs?in this case, to explore whether it might be better to conduct a colonoscopy while in a seated versus the usual supine position. That's just what the recipient did, not just once, but four different times, with varying degrees of discomfort. So even single patients' experiences can vary. He called for further study comparing seated and supine positions to determine whether the former might be better for problem patients.


Literature
Laugh: Thea Blackler, Rafael Gomez, Vesna Popovic, and M. Helen Thompson, for documenting that most people who use complicated products do not read the instruction manual.

Think: The people who design our consumer products (cell phones, DVD players, and so forth) often complain that customers just don't read the manual, and thus never make full use of all the amazing advanced features. The customers in turn feel overwhelmed by "feature bloat" and don't find those manuals especially useful, often preferring to figure things out on their own by tinkering. As the recipients put it in their paper, "Life's too short to RTFM." Understanding who does and does not RTFM could help companies design better manuals in the future?which, let's face it, most of us still won't read.


Nutrition
Laugh: James Cole, for calculating that the caloric intake from a human-cannibalism diet is significantly lower than the caloric intake from most other traditional meat diets.

Think: Why would anyone want to calculate the nutritional value of the human body, apart from members of the Donner Party? Someone who's interested in studying the rare cases of cannibalism throughout history, that's who?not just in modern humans but also in fossil remains from the Paleolithic era. Turns out the human body is not particularly high in nutritional value, especially when compared to other kinds of meat. This suggests that there were primarily social and cultural reasons people resorted to cannibalism.


Peace
Laugh: Francisco Alonso, Cristina Esteban, Andrea Serge, Maria-Luisa Ballestar, Jaime Sanmartin, Constanza Calatayud, and Beatriz Alamar, for measuring the frequency, motivation, and effects of shouting and cursing while driving an automobile.

Think: Most of us are inclined to mutter a bit of profanity when stuck in traffic, but roughly one-quarter of us are particularly aggressive when it comes to shouting and cursing at other drivers (especially, it seems, in Spain). The recipients studied the frequency of this behavior and possible stress factors behind it, as well as the impact on traffic safety. Most people view such behavior as relatively harmless, when in fact, that level of aggression is associated with a higher rate of accidents (a major cause of death and injury worldwide).


Reproductive Medicine
Laugh: John Barry, Bruce Blank, and Michel Boileau, for using postage stamps to test whether the male sexual organ is functioning properly?as described in their study, "Nocturnal Penile Tumescence Monitoring with Stamps."

Think: Impotence is embarrassing, to be sure, but it can also be a symptom for more serious conditions (diabetes, lymphoma, or arteriosclerosis, for instance). One way to tell the difference between impotence that's "psychogenic" and impotence that has an underlying physical cause is whether or not the patient gets erections while sleeping. Sure, you can hook your member up to a strain gauge recorder at night or ask your sexual partner to track your nighttime erections. But it's so much easier to wrap the "stamp ring" (similar in size to Christmas seals) around it at night and just check to see if the stamp ring broke along the perforations overnight because of an erection.


Economics
Laugh: Lindie Hanyu Liang, Douglas Brown, Huiwen Lian, Samuel Hanig, D. Lance Ferris, and Lisa Keeping, for investigating whether it is effective for employees to use Voodoo dolls to retaliate against abusive bosses.

Think: Even the recipients admit in their paper that "it is difficult to offer direct practical implications from our study." But if you have a supervisor who routinely subjects you to public ridicule, scapegoating, or other abusive behavior, chances are you'll eventually retaliate as a knee-jerk attempt to restore a sense of justice. That usually escalates the situation and could end up adversely impacting the company's bottom line. Stabbing a voodoo doll representing your supervisor with pins can be cathartic. It's one kind of psychological tool to right the balance of feeling wronged, and it could spur discussion of other non-confrontational strategies to deal with this common workplace problem.
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Michael on 14 September 2018, 14:03:49
 ;D ;D ;D

Thanks for that, Hanibal!
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Thursday Next on 14 September 2018, 16:19:50
 ;D

There seems to be a suspiciously large number of researchers involved in that study involving wine ...
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Randi on 14 September 2018, 18:45:28
::) ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Michael on 17 September 2018, 12:06:52
Just to let you know, my daughter is making us visit her and her family in Australia. We'll be gone from Sept 18 to Oct 10. No ice work, sorry. :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(

I will check into the forum, though, from time to time. Assuming they have internet in Australia.  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Randi on 17 September 2018, 12:09:20
You probably need a break. You certainly deserve one.
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: AvastMH on 17 September 2018, 16:44:01
I'll second Randi - have a lovely break Michael.  :D
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 17 September 2018, 17:07:39
Not sure what break Micheal is going to have. He will be 'Just up the road' from me.   ;D ;D

Temps low to mid 20s (C)
Slight chance of some rain (which we do need)
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: JamesAPrattIII on 18 September 2018, 11:16:40
The national WW I Museum and Memorial has a presentation on youtube "Influenza 1918" on the Pandemic
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Thursday Next on 19 September 2018, 16:05:17
For those of us in the UK, there is a TV documentary on BBC2 next Tuesday (25 September) about the Spanish Flu at 9.00pm: "The Flu That Killed 50 Million".  The Radio Times has warned us that it is "pretty unpleasant".
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Thursday Next on 20 September 2018, 13:30:01
And a feature on the BBC website to accompany the programme: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-45097068
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 20 September 2018, 16:04:34
Something I found from an article as I was searching for Harrison BaY, Alaska.

https://medium.com/@ceidel2/ice-free-is-the-new-arctic-d6e8296967f4 (https://medium.com/@ceidel2/ice-free-is-the-new-arctic-d6e8296967f4)

Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: AvastMH on 20 September 2018, 17:10:48
Something I found from an article as I was searching for Harrison BaY, Alaska.

https://medium.com/@ceidel2/ice-free-is-the-new-arctic-d6e8296967f4 (https://medium.com/@ceidel2/ice-free-is-the-new-arctic-d6e8296967f4)

A powerful article Stuart. Unlike our present climate - that report is chilling. And what we plan to do when the waters of the Arctic are free of ice doesn't bear thinking about.  :'( :'( :'(
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Kevin on 24 September 2018, 13:09:11
After a marathon field season I'm now settled at the Scott Polar Research Institute in Cambridge until January. Finishing the first edition of the sea ice data base is Job 1 (after not getting run over crossing the road).
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Randi on 24 September 2018, 13:58:35
Welcome back!
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Caro on 24 September 2018, 14:23:11
Ditto!
And watch out for those automobile thingies.
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: AvastMH on 24 September 2018, 18:30:08
Welcome back Kevin - and we're grateful that you didn't get run over  ;)  :D
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: propriome on 25 September 2018, 03:29:42
Welcome back!  :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Michael on 25 September 2018, 03:56:23
Yes, and remember to look right then left when crossing the road! These people that won't drive on the right side of the road make it dangerous for the rest of us. I'm having the same issues here in Oz.  ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: studentforever on 25 September 2018, 05:08:33
Far more likely to tangle with a demon bike, Cambridge undergrads on bikes take no prisoners, they even scare London taxi drivers!
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: AvastMH on 25 September 2018, 15:56:34
Far more likely to tangle with a demon bike, Cambridge undergrads on bikes take no prisoners, they even scare London taxi drivers!

 :o :o :o  They sound worse than the bike mob over here at The Other Place  ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Randi on 25 September 2018, 22:40:51
Ice Surveys and Neckties at Dinner: Here's Life at an Arctic Outpost (https://www.nytimes.com/2018/09/21/climate/greenland-arctic-ice.html?em_pos=medium&emc=edit_sc_20180925&nl=science-times&nl_art=1&nlid=79267039emc%3Dedit_sc_20180925&ref=headline&te=1)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nord,_Greenland
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Kevin on 26 September 2018, 09:23:37
Far more likely to tangle with a demon bike, Cambridge undergrads on bikes take no prisoners, they even scare London taxi drivers!

One tried to run me down from behind on the sidewalk next to Parker's Piece not an hour ago.
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: studentforever on 26 September 2018, 09:46:15
I can only apologise for my successor. We only terrorised pedestrians rash enough to cross our path on the roads. In my day we had to have numbers painted on to our rear mudguards which allowed id of college and, through them, the inidividual. So, if this still applies and you are intimidated by bikers on a space reserved for pedestrians get the number and complain to the college. BUT some footpaths are so-called 'shared spaces'. Bikes are supposed to give way to pedestrians but enforcing it is more difficult. Adults cycling on reserved pavements is an offence, some latitude for children though.

As an ageing and arthritic pensioner I try to avoid 'shared spaces' in urban areas. Canal towpaths etc are usually better and disused railway tracks are usually OK if you walk along the side and don't weave around too much.
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Kathy on 26 September 2018, 15:54:17
So - anything other than whaling ships to work on? :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Caro on 26 September 2018, 15:57:35
Hiya Kathy.  :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Hanibal94 on 26 September 2018, 16:20:15
Hi Kathy,

Maybe you could give Ice Hunting a try - I've been doing it since January, and it's pretty fun.
Here's the guide: http://forum.oldweather.org/index.php?topic=4690.0
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 26 September 2018, 16:26:33
High Kathy, not being a PTB I have no idea what they want doing.
There is some Burton Is now available.
https://sites.google.com/view/owfaq/ships/shipyard/burton-island (https://sites.google.com/view/owfaq/ships/shipyard/burton-island)
Select a Tracker that is underlined and see what has been done.
There is a KH scripts available to do download the months pages. contact Bob for help there (Michael is Downunder at the moment).
http://forum.oldweather.org/index.php?topic=4838.msg131082#msg131082 (http://forum.oldweather.org/index.php?topic=4838.msg131082#msg131082)

I think there is only 1 yr of the Corwin left in Ice Hunting and weather, and Vibia has that reserved.
I have only Nov 1882 to do (having already done 1884) then I am also looking for work. That should be finished in a week
Maybe Vibia could give up the Corwin 1881 as Randi says she is currently doing a good job elsewhere. I could then complete the full set of Corwin.

Just a thought.
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: AvastMH on 26 September 2018, 17:46:38
Hi Kathy!  :D :D :D

 Yep - avoid Whaling- things are pretty much wrapped up there at the moment, that and it's lack of being able to work out when it's been transcribed three times, make it a might messy just now.
I better let Randi talk about Ice hunting since I'm still heading into all of that from Whaling.
 :D
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Randi on 26 September 2018, 19:28:39
High Kathy, not being a PTB I have no idea what they want doing.
There is some Burton Is now available.
https://sites.google.com/view/owfaq/ships/shipyard/burton-island (https://sites.google.com/view/owfaq/ships/shipyard/burton-island)
Select a Tracker that is underlined and see what has been done.
There is a KH scripts available to do download the months pages. contact Bob for help there (Michael is Downunder at the moment).
http://forum.oldweather.org/index.php?topic=4838.msg131082#msg131082 (http://forum.oldweather.org/index.php?topic=4838.msg131082#msg131082)
No Burton Island for now.

I think there is only 1 yr of the Corwin left in Ice Hunting and weather, and Vibia has that reserved.
I have only Nov 1882 to do (having already done 1884) then I am also looking for work. That should be finished in a week
Maybe Vibia could give up the Corwin 1881 as Randi says she is currently doing a good job elsewhere. I could then complete the full set of Corwin.
Corwin 1881 is Vibia's reward for all the hard work she has already done.

Bear and Thetis have work available and when those are done more Bear years will be available.
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 27 September 2018, 16:45:00
I am starting Thetis 1899 now.
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Randi on 27 September 2018, 17:14:16
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/1a/Thumb_up_icon.svg/768px-Thumb_up_icon.svg.png)
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Kevin on 28 September 2018, 08:30:31
Hi Kathy!  :D :D :D

 Yep - avoid Whaling- things are pretty much wrapped up there at the moment, that and it's lack of being able to work out when it's been transcribed three times, make it a might messy just now.
I better let Randi talk about Ice hunting since I'm still heading into all of that from Whaling.
 :D

Hi Kathy - We have a new imaging center at Archives 1 Hub that is in the public space. You could go see it and meet our new interns. This also opens up some public events that you could get involved with if so inclined (e.g. transcribe-a-thon). Also, Ice Hunters is the best bet at the moment.
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Maikel on 28 September 2018, 09:45:55
Infamous Wreck of Ill-Fated Franklin Expedition Yields More Artifacts, But No Ship's Log
https://www.livescience.com/63704-franklin-expedition-artifacts-recovered.html

In Photos: Artifacts Recovered from the HMS Erebus Exploration
https://www.livescience.com/63701-photos-hms-erebus-exploration.html
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Randi on 28 September 2018, 10:13:16
Neat!
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: AvastMH on 29 September 2018, 17:15:57
Hi Kathy!  :D :D :D

 Yep - avoid Whaling- things are pretty much wrapped up there at the moment, that and it's lack of being able to work out when it's been transcribed three times, make it a might messy just now.
I better let Randi talk about Ice hunting since I'm still heading into all of that from Whaling.
 :D

Hi Kathy - We have a new imaging center at Archives 1 Hub that is in the public space. You could go see it and meet our new interns. This also opens up some public events that you could get involved with if so inclined (e.g. transcribe-a-thon). Also, Ice Hunters is the best bet at the moment.

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/1a/Thumb_up_icon.svg/768px-Thumb_up_icon.svg.png)   :D
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: AvastMH on 29 September 2018, 17:21:34
Infamous Wreck of Ill-Fated Franklin Expedition Yields More Artifacts, But No Ship's Log
https://www.livescience.com/63704-franklin-expedition-artifacts-recovered.html

In Photos: Artifacts Recovered from the HMS Erebus Exploration
https://www.livescience.com/63701-photos-hms-erebus-exploration.html

Amazing...and imagine if they did finally find those log books  8)
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 30 September 2018, 17:32:09
Just browsing my Nat geo and came across this

 Nat Geo Pink Polar Ice pics  (https://www.nationalgeographic.com/environment/2018/09/news-greenland-ice-sheet-melting-arctic-algae/?cmpid=org=ngp::mc=crm-email::src=ngp::cmp=editorial::add=sunstills_20180930::rid=24710044355)
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Helen J on 01 October 2018, 10:27:38
More on Erebus - Michael Palin is reading his book on her final voyage all this week on Radio 4:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m0000m7d
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Kathy on 05 October 2018, 16:03:55
Hi all -
thanks for the suggestions! Is there any idea when (if?) there will be more than ice hunting to do? I miss the logs....

Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Kathy on 05 October 2018, 16:06:30
Hi Kevin - when are the interns around? My job has changed somewhat, and I may be downtown on a more regular basis.
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Randi on 05 October 2018, 18:47:47
Hi all -
thanks for the suggestions! Is there any idea when (if?) there will be more than ice hunting to do? I miss the logs....

There is more ice hunting around and especially more full (weather and events) transcribing. You could team up with someone so that one person does the events page and the other person does the weather page!
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Kathy on 06 October 2018, 00:23:49
Is that the way it is now?  Do you have to partner with someone? Are logs assigned?  How do you access the ships?
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Randi on 06 October 2018, 00:40:33
Here are a few answers...

No, you don't have to partner with anyone. However, if you want to do only weather or only events you can!

Currently available ships are shown in:
https://sites.google.com/view/owfaq/ships/shipyard/bear/bear-status
and
https://sites.google.com/view/owfaq/ships/shipyard/thetis/thetis-status
See the Discussion topics for each ship-year in the Shipyard (http://forum.oldweather.org/index.php?board=40.0)

Basic instructions are in the Ice Hunting Guide (http://forum.oldweather.org/index.php?topic=4690.0). I will work with you on getting started ;)
It is a steep learning curve, but once you get the hang of it, it is even better than OW3 ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Caro on 06 October 2018, 05:00:05
Happy birthday Bob!

 ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Michael on 06 October 2018, 06:11:56
Yes!
Happy Birthday, Bob!!!


I just wish I could give you a present as good as the new interface you gave us for OW Arctic and the great ice hunt.  :-[
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Randi on 06 October 2018, 08:19:06
Very well put, Michael!!!!!
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Randi on 06 October 2018, 08:19:50
Happy Birthday
to
Bob
(https://i.pinimg.com/736x/ca/af/63/caaf630c31e7af02fb559cd55c772eb2.jpg)


~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Rocket-powered cake does candle blowing and cutting (https://youtube.com/embed/RZU5HebzuP4)
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: AvastMH on 06 October 2018, 14:35:57
Wow!! Enjoy that cake Bob!! ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Bob - have a very happy birthday indeed. You might need these to follow Randi's cake  ;) ;) ;D

(https://i.imgur.com/lK93yDz.png)
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 06 October 2018, 16:08:48
I hope you have/had a good one Bob.
(Don't know what day it was)
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Bob on 06 October 2018, 21:48:22
Thanks, all, for the birthday wishes!  ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Caro on 12 October 2018, 07:26:50
OW was launched eight years ago today.

Happy birthday to us!

(http://freepages.rootsweb.com/~hero/genealogy/navy/greet.gif)

And thanks to Maikel for the reminder. ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Helen J on 12 October 2018, 07:27:50
Splice the mainbrace and double rations of rum all round!
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: AvastMH on 12 October 2018, 08:19:54
Splice the mainbrace and double rations of rum all round!

I'll second that Helen!   ;D



(https://i.imgur.com/yAGNVZG.png)

...to all of the jolly crew of OldWeather - and a hope for many more anniversaries to come


 :D :D :D
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Hanibal94 on 12 October 2018, 13:20:41
Happy Birthday, Old Weather!

It's been eight years, and we're still going strong - quite an impressive feat!
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Michael on 12 October 2018, 14:23:44
Yes indeed. And we're still here. A sign of OW addiction perhaps?  ::)
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Thursday Next on 12 October 2018, 14:50:27
I am reminded every day of just how long OW has been around as my lock screen is the "card" - featuring the Mantua - which Caro designed for OW's first birthday  ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Randi on 12 October 2018, 17:41:29
Happy Birthday
to
All of us !
(http://www.naval-history.net/OW-US/Bear/USRC_Bear06.jpg)
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: jil on 13 October 2018, 04:41:35
A belated Happy Birthday to us! Great photo, Randi!
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: studentforever on 13 October 2018, 08:30:17
Maybe this is a time to raise a virtual glass to those early enthusiasts like Bunts, Pliget, JanetJaguar to name just the first few which came to mind. Without them  the  project may not have gained impetus. And of course a toast to Gordon without whom the project may not have got going at all.
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Randi on 13 October 2018, 10:03:34
Indeed!
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Hanibal94 on 13 October 2018, 11:09:27
Well said, Rosemary!

I'll do that tonight when I have dinner.
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Tegwen on 13 October 2018, 12:21:01
Hear Hear. I will certainly down a small glass to them (us) all.
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Dean on 15 October 2018, 19:23:03
(https://i.imgur.com/HXKEJUZ.jpg)
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Randi on 15 October 2018, 21:18:07
https://www.facebook.com/cityofsavannah/posts/10161094314505525?te=1&nl=politics&emc=edit_cn_20181015 :-X
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 15 October 2018, 21:31:29
Latest findings from Cosmos Mag
https://cosmosmagazine.com/climate/most-of-the-arctic-s-permanent-ice-is-gone (https://cosmosmagazine.com/climate/most-of-the-arctic-s-permanent-ice-is-gone)

Surprise, surprise.   :o
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: studentforever on 16 October 2018, 01:30:13
I'm sure that Stromness Museum would appreciate any help our OWers can give. Do keep an eye on their website if you think you can help.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-north-east-orkney-shetland-45868798

Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Kevin on 16 October 2018, 09:04:10
Latest findings from Cosmos Mag
https://cosmosmagazine.com/climate/most-of-the-arctic-s-permanent-ice-is-gone (https://cosmosmagazine.com/climate/most-of-the-arctic-s-permanent-ice-is-gone)

Surprise, surprise.   :o

Less than 1% of Arctic ice is >4 years old. So nearly all of the ice now in the Arctic is younger than Old Weather.

Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: jil on 16 October 2018, 11:30:39
Less than 1% of Arctic ice is >4 years old. So nearly all of the ice now in the Arctic is younger than Old Weather.
Put like that makes it even more scary!
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: AvastMH on 16 October 2018, 13:44:00
https://www.facebook.com/cityofsavannah/posts/10161094314505525?te=1&nl=politics&emc=edit_cn_20181015 :-X
Well this is the nearest emoticon to that-  :o and sums up my surprise too ;D ;D ;D

Latest findings from Cosmos Mag
https://cosmosmagazine.com/climate/most-of-the-arctic-s-permanent-ice-is-gone (https://cosmosmagazine.com/climate/most-of-the-arctic-s-permanent-ice-is-gone)
Surprise, surprise.   :o
Less than 1% of Arctic ice is >4 years old. So nearly all of the ice now in the Arctic is younger than Old Weather.
:'( :'( :'(

I'm sure that Stromness Museum would appreciate any help our OWers can give. Do keep an eye on their website if you think you can help.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-north-east-orkney-shetland-45868798
Fingers crossed :D
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Randi on 16 October 2018, 14:22:05
I'm sure that Stromness Museum would appreciate any help our OWers can give. Do keep an eye on their website if you think you can help.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-north-east-orkney-shetland-45868798
Great find!
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Randi on 21 October 2018, 23:44:34
Raye Montague, the Navy's 'Hidden Figure' Ship Designer, Dies at 83 (https://www.nytimes.com/2018/10/18/obituaries/raye-montague-a-navy-hidden-figure-ship-designer-dies-at-83.html?emc=edit_nn_20181021&nl=morning-briefing&nlid=7926703920181021&te=1)
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 22 October 2018, 01:50:09
I didn't see that one.
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: AvastMH on 22 October 2018, 08:35:06
Raye Montague, the Navy's 'Hidden Figure' Ship Designer, Dies at 83 (https://www.nytimes.com/2018/10/18/obituaries/raye-montague-a-navy-hidden-figure-ship-designer-dies-at-83.html?emc=edit_nn_20181021&nl=morning-briefing&nlid=7926703920181021&te=1)

Wow!! What a gal! :o ;D  That's the kind of person that I need to tell my god-children about.
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Hanibal94 on 22 October 2018, 12:45:46
Quite a gal indeed. Thanks for posting this, Randi!
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 22 October 2018, 16:04:32
Anybody looking for a car to go bush in, this might surprise some?
This is what Janeece and I was doing last vacation. (except I did not do the rock climbing day)
Warning its 12min long, first edit.

https://vimeo.com/293812474 (https://vimeo.com/293812474)

Stuart
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Randi on 22 October 2018, 17:54:43
Quite an adventure!

I'm not quite sure I would consider that a vacation ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: studentforever on 24 October 2018, 05:06:54
Another link with WW1. I went to the ceremony at the Menin Gate in September and that was moving. Using the same cornet that sounded the Last Post during the war would be spine tingling

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-tayside-central-45939466
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: AvastMH on 24 October 2018, 13:17:58
Anybody looking for a car to go bush in, this might surprise some?
This is what Janeece and I was doing last vacation. (except I did not do the rock climbing day)
Warning its 12min long, first edit.

https://vimeo.com/293812474 (https://vimeo.com/293812474)

Stuart
Wow Stuart - that's some tough driving! I'd be a bag of nerves five minutes after setting off  :o ;) :D  Beautiful places though - and that last beach is stunning :D

Another link with WW1. I went to the ceremony at the Menin Gate in September and that was moving. Using the same cornet that sounded the Last Post during the war would be spine tingling

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-tayside-central-45939466
That's an amazing, and very affecting, sound. And right for this Armistice Day.  :) :) :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Michael on 27 October 2018, 15:38:32
I'm not sure if people outside Canada can hear this, but it was a very interesting article about Antarctic Ice.

Listen to the Antarctic ice sheet sing a song of melting ice (https://www.cbc.ca/radio/quirks/oct-27-2018-neanderthal-nursing-antarctica-s-singing-snows-fish-and-hook-injuries-a-1.4878288/listen-to-the-antarctic-ice-sheet-sing-a-song-of-melting-ice-1.4878301)
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Randi on 27 October 2018, 16:02:25
I can hear it in the US.
It makes me think a little bit of a didgeridoo.
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Randi on 31 October 2018, 12:16:48
Jules is looking for Solar Stormwatch volunteers in (or at least from) India.

If you are one or know one, please contact jules, Caro, and Randi here in the forum ;)

Thanks!
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: AvastMH on 31 October 2018, 14:35:14
I'm not sure if people outside Canada can hear this, but it was a very interesting article about Antarctic Ice.

Listen to the Antarctic ice sheet sing a song of melting ice (https://www.cbc.ca/radio/quirks/oct-27-2018-neanderthal-nursing-antarctica-s-singing-snows-fish-and-hook-injuries-a-1.4878288/listen-to-the-antarctic-ice-sheet-sing-a-song-of-melting-ice-1.4878301)

I could catch the article - sobering stuff  :( :( :-[
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Hanibal94 on 02 November 2018, 12:14:56
A few days ago, Apple released a huge number of security fixes for pretty much all its big products:
https://www.theregister.co.uk/2018/10/30/apple_security_updates/

As always, I recommend installing these updates as soon as you can get them (except for watchOS 5.1, which has broken devices! (https://www.theregister.co.uk/2018/11/01/apple_watch_4_borked_update/))
But that might take some time - I haven't been able to get the one for macOS on my work computer.
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Helen J on 04 November 2018, 12:34:13
My favourite snippet of the week, from a book about eccentric Church of England clergy:
'Lancelot Blackburne had a successful career as a pirate before ending up as Archbishop of York.  As one contemporary put it: "His behaviour was never of the standard expected of an Archbishop - indeed, it was rarely of a standard expected of a pirate."'
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Randi on 04 November 2018, 13:58:37
Wow! Wonderful comment ;D
(Although I can't help wondering what standards were expected of pirates)


Quote from: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lancelot_Blackburne
Lancelot Blackburne (sometimes Blackburn, Blackborne or Blackbourn[e]; 10 December 1658 - 23 March 1743) was an English clergyman, who became Archbishop of York, and - in popular belief - a pirate.

He was described by Horace Walpole, in his Memories, as "?Blackbourn, the jolly old Archbishop of York, who had all the manners of a man of quality, though he had been a buccaneer, and was a clergyman; but he retained nothing of his first profession, except his seraglio."
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Helen J on 05 November 2018, 07:09:48
Yes, I wondered that!  Though I'm sure that having a seraglio was never considered quite acceptable for the clergy, let alone an archbishop.  The present Archbishop of York has announced that he will retire before too long, and I've already seen a suggestion that experience as a pirate ought to be on the list of experience for the next one ....
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Hanibal94 on 05 November 2018, 13:56:38
New 50 pound note will feature British scientist (https://www.bbc.com/news/business-46063097)

You can vote in the survey (link is close to the top of the article) without having to create an account or anything, and you don't need to be within the UK either.
I voted for Ada Lovelace.
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Randi on 05 November 2018, 14:11:19
8) 8) 8)
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Michael on 05 November 2018, 15:02:23
 8) 8) 8)
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Helen J on 06 November 2018, 07:15:00
New 50 pound note will feature British scientist (https://www.bbc.com/news/business-46063097)

You can vote in the survey (link is close to the top of the article) without having to create an account or anything, and you don't need to be within the UK either.
I voted for Ada Lovelace.

Thanks for the reminder, hanibal - I'd meant to take part.  Ada Lovelace for me too ....
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: AvastMH on 06 November 2018, 08:20:32
Ada Lovelace looks good to me too :)   Just such a shame to end up on a tricky note - shop keepers don't like it much at all I understand  :-\
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Helen J on 06 November 2018, 09:13:04
Voices of the First World War is back on Radio 4, and yesterday's episode was a terrifying account of a torpedo strike in 1918, from someone who survived it.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m00012q3
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: AvastMH on 11 November 2018, 06:00:12
(https://i.imgur.com/rPMawCw.png)
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Helen J on 11 November 2018, 07:05:52
 :'( :'( :'(
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: studentforever on 14 November 2018, 11:08:13
Not sea ice but an interesting Antarctic feature

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-46202255

It does influence coring studies on snowfall though.
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Randi on 15 November 2018, 00:20:27
This useful information was prepared by the Naval Reserve Intelligence Program in 1999 for a course "designed to provide the minimum essential information for drilling naval reservists prior to performing an annual training period (AT) at Sea."

Quote from: https://fas.org/man/dod-101/navy/docs/rfs4/index.html#_Toc448392412
5. Sleepwear

It is generally not a good idea to sleep in the buff. You never know when a "Man Overboard" or "General Quarters" will be called away. Have your gym shorts or skivvies pull double duty.
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Michael on 15 November 2018, 10:05:42
 ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Helen J on 15 November 2018, 10:35:27
Sounds good advice for us all!  Though I'm afraid I have no gym shorts, and have no idea what 'skivvies' are ....
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Randi on 15 November 2018, 10:49:07
https://www.thefreedictionary.com/Skivvies
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Helen J on 15 November 2018, 12:03:42
I could probably put together something of the sort ....
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: AvastMH on 15 November 2018, 14:18:26
Not sea ice but an interesting Antarctic feature

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-46202255

It does influence coring studies on snowfall though.

 :o Wow - that's an amazing find and here's an interesting find at the other end of the planet:

Greenland ice sheet hides huge 'impact crater' (https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-46181450)
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: AvastMH on 15 November 2018, 14:24:38
https://www.thefreedictionary.com/Skivvies

My mind is going sideways on this one. A skivvy in my world is someone beset with miserable housework like cleaning and polishing floors for which we used to used old cotton britches in our house. Skivvies with skivvies then  ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: studentforever on 15 November 2018, 14:50:02
Up north we skivvies used holey vests!  ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Michael on 15 November 2018, 16:23:52
:o Wow - that's an amazing find and here's an interesting find at the other end of the planet:

Greenland ice sheet hides huge 'impact crater' (https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-46181450)

Rather than drilling through 1 km of solid ice, they could just wait a few years for it to melt.  ::)
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: AvastMH on 15 November 2018, 17:50:42
Up north we skivvies used holey vests!  ;D
;D ;D ;D

Helen - that's holey vests, not holy vestments - it's OK - all is well  :o ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: AvastMH on 15 November 2018, 17:51:51
:o Wow - that's an amazing find and here's an interesting find at the other end of the planet:

Greenland ice sheet hides huge 'impact crater' (https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-46181450)

Rather than drilling through 1 km of solid ice, they could just wait a few years for it to melt.  ::)

Yep - ummm- hang on - just turned the heating down another notch.  :o ::) :-\
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: JamesAPrattIII on 15 November 2018, 23:59:16
I am a little late but 11 Nov 1940 was the date of the great Armistice day storm 1940. it killed over 154 people including over 50 duck hunters who got caught out on the lakes by this sudden storm. This is the deadliest day for duck hunters in US history. Sometime called "the day the duck hunters died".
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Helen J on 16 November 2018, 06:45:03
Up north we skivvies used holey vests!  ;D
;D ;D ;D

Helen - that's holey vests, not holy vestments - it's OK - all is well  :o ;D

And that is the meaning of skivvie I'm used to too.  And thanks for the reassurance that I'm expected to sleep or to clean wearing vestments!   ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 17 November 2018, 14:13:32
Left field, but just lately I have noticed that the black "Not Secure" showing on the URL bar when reading the posts turns RED when replying. I do not know how long I have been missing that.

Anybody else get that happening?
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Randi on 17 November 2018, 14:18:24
I don't see that at all.

Windows 10 & Firefix

Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Michael on 17 November 2018, 16:35:10
Same with me. Windows 10, Firefox. No warning.
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Hanibal94 on 17 November 2018, 18:22:43
Happens to me. Windows 10, Chrome.
It's because our forum isn't on HTTPS - is there any chance that could be changed?
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Randi on 17 November 2018, 18:41:14
When we move to a new forum...
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Michael on 17 November 2018, 19:08:24
The clock ticks...  :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: AvastMH on 17 November 2018, 21:22:07
I spotted it. However the forum was working. I decided not to tinker with fate by dobbing it in. Call me a chicken - yep - true!  ::) ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: studentforever on 21 November 2018, 01:07:32
Yet more info and pics of the German Fleet surrender

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-46273928
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: AvastMH on 21 November 2018, 08:18:30
Yet more info and pics of the German Fleet surrender

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-46273928

Wonderful pictures. For anyone seeing it with their own eyes it must have been very impressive indeed.  :)



I picked up another link from that article: Why is there a row over seaweed harvesting in Scotland? (https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-46289449)

For the sake of Scottish Wildlife I hope that plans to wreck the kelp beds get stomped on quickly!  :o  >:(

(I'll try posting this to the Kelp Forests Project)
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Michael on 22 November 2018, 09:32:02
A new record of sorts...  :-\

This is the first time that I've logged in in the morning and not had any unread posts show up when I click on the Show Unread Posts link.
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Randi on 22 November 2018, 11:11:59
:'( :'( :'( :'( :'(
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Helen J on 22 November 2018, 12:04:19
A new record of sorts...  :-\

This is the first time that I've logged in in the morning and not had any unread posts show up when I click on the Show Unread Posts link.

I only had two - and I did think 'it's quiet round here'.  Hopefully just a temporary blip.
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Randi on 22 November 2018, 13:00:22
Can I interest anyone in (the new) Old Weather: Arctic?
It was created by our very own transcriber and moderator: Bob

And it is being plotted by our very own transcriber: Michael
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/8pjPlyznZY36v_ohUV8t0KrRD2EOwICyMBKu6NdTPiY1yNUxzMt8YzZVAj0CTLQPv0fDTNAYNBoVz3RYgfaa=w1920-h944)

Send me a PM and I will help you get started.





Also, ask Joan about the new Old Weather: Whaling ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: AvastMH on 22 November 2018, 14:10:31
Thanks Randi!

I only had a few things to read. It would be great to have some more play-pals wouldn't it?  And with Christmas coming up and folks having a break and some time to themselves it would be cool to harness some of the 'I can't eat one more mincepie' victims of the season into some mental relief by dint of saving the planet!

Whaling is coming along. Almost there for beta testing :D



A Happy Thanks Giving to everyone on the left-hand side of The Pond  ;D

(https://i.imgur.com/arFHkRc.png)
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Thursday Next on 22 November 2018, 14:14:23
Yes, Joan, I've been looking at your posts on the Forum about Whaling - and I'm beginning to think volunteering for beta testing might have been a Big Mistake!

Anyone know when Seas of Knowledge starts?  ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Randi on 22 November 2018, 14:34:22
Anyone know when Seas of Knowledge starts?  ;D

It looks like they are working on the imaging... http://forum.oldweather.org/index.php?topic=5026.msg156147#msg156147
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: AvastMH on 22 November 2018, 16:59:49
Yes, Joan, I've been looking at your posts on the Forum about Whaling - and I'm beginning to think volunteering for beta testing might have been a Big Mistake!

Oh dear - I have to admit that one of the logs has that well known syndrome - using a glass of water instead of a pot of ink.
I hope I haven't made Whaling look too mad though. I've tried to give a lot of examples to cover all the corners as it were.   :-\ 
 The Seas of Knowledge does look to be very interesting though, and I bet their logbooks will be like the usual thing we see.  :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 22 November 2018, 17:18:05
Out of curiosity about how many do we have on the coal face transcribing the OW log books?
and how many in the back office doing the correlation?
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Michael on 22 November 2018, 17:39:50
Out of curiosity about how many do we have on the coal face transcribing the OW log books?
and how many in the back office doing the correlation?

I'm the only one calculating hourly positions. Bob works on spreadsheets. Randi works on Help guides, forum topics and etc.

 As far as I know the following people are transcribing:

Others have been messaging Randi about joining, and I may be missing some people because I'm just going on memory.
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Randi on 22 November 2018, 17:55:08
Milton
&
Joke Slayer
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 22 November 2018, 19:49:26
say 10. We cannot afford to lose anybody to other projects.  ???
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Randi on 22 November 2018, 22:54:53
Yes, Joan, I've been looking at your posts on the Forum about Whaling - and I'm beginning to think volunteering for beta testing might have been a Big Mistake!

Joan will look after you!
One on one coaching by an expert!
And if there is something you don't like about the system, you have a chance of getting it changed!

The writing is no worse than the RN logs and the imaging is better.
(although I can't say the same for the spelling)
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: studentforever on 23 November 2018, 05:06:39
Well, I for one want to complete the RN log editing, I've got Torch's yellow highlights to finish and I'm nearing half-way through Cornflower. Whether there will be any unedited logs after I finish Cornflower I don't know. I do want to go back to a couple of my early ships and use my improved skills to bring their logs up to my current standard - tracking down ships & locations mainly because I was too much inclined to trust the log-keeper and only really chased up stuff I couldn't read.

After that I'll be looking for a job (preferably at double rate of pay!). I'd love some more RN logs, especially WW2, but nothing in prospect so I'll have a look at some of the other options within OW. There are possibly some other editors who may feel the same but the Whalers do look a bit daunting. If I can save work in progress then I might stick with it. I don't like to feel that I've got to complete a hefty wodge of input before I can do anything else or lose the work I've done.
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: AvastMH on 23 November 2018, 08:19:08
I can understand going back to work on edits. I had a look through my one-and-only yesterday (The Acacia). It was a nice trip down memory lane.  :)

Randi is right  :D   I'll absolutely support OW-whalers one-on-one. I wasn't sure about the whalers at the start - but I love them now. And, bless them, because they come from relatively small communities they have similar styles of reporting events. You get fewer details to report, but there's something just magical about the sense of freedom that they had to follow the whales. There are few sentences spent on whaling, it's not graphic. Retrieving the ice front and weather details gives back something for the yearly toll of cetaceans.  :) 8)

Trips to Hawaii and Micronesia are available - though they will be left to the end as we pick out the 'ice voyages' first.   :D

I think that we can probably run to double pay  ;) ;) ;D

Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Randi on 23 November 2018, 09:31:14
If I can save work in progress then I might stick with it. I don't like to feel that I've got to complete a hefty wodge of input before I can do anything else or lose the work I've done.

You can save a work in progress with both OW: Arctic and OW:Whaling.
Since we developed these versions, we did our best to fix the annoying features of the Talk versions ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Thursday Next on 23 November 2018, 15:33:23
I expect that OW Whaling will prove to be one of those things that looks really daunting at first glance, but when you break it down into small steps it becomes manageable.  I'm glad to hear you can save a work in progress though - it's a big help to be able to finish when it's convenient rather than having to persevere through to the end of a particular piece of work.  However, I'm only committing to helping with beta testing.  I am still editing the logs of Capetown but don't expect there to be any more RN ships left when I've finished.  The idea of going back to logs I've already edited is not that appealing to me. 

Seas of Knowledge does seem quite appealing based on what I know and would prompt me to educate myself on the American Civil War.  Presumably they'll let us know when they need beta testers.

I do have some unrelated projects I'd like to find time for, but I certainly wouldn't want to lose touch with OW altogether.
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: AvastMH on 23 November 2018, 15:42:21
I do have some unrelated projects I'd like to find time for, but I certainly wouldn't want to lose touch with OW altogether.

 :D :D :D



The ability to pick up and put down the OW/OWW work is important. I've been breaking the logs down in OWW to make sure that we do the ice section of the voyages first, but it also means that there's nice chunks to pick up and enjoy. Equally if one section is too much you can take a break from it, even let it go on to someone else if need be. :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Hanibal94 on 24 November 2018, 05:15:51
Interesting article about seabed survey:
https://www.theregister.co.uk/2018/11/21/hms_enterprise_royal_navy_survey_ship_role/
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: AvastMH on 24 November 2018, 17:42:32
Interesting article about seabed survey:
https://www.theregister.co.uk/2018/11/21/hms_enterprise_royal_navy_survey_ship_role/
Fascinating. I particularly liked the bit about the enemy submarines being absent in the afternoon because the warmed water caused problems with the sonar. The ocean is so cold that it's not something that I'd ever think to worry about.  :-\
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: JamesAPrattIII on 30 November 2018, 20:02:46
I have read that melting ice up in the artic in WW II also played havoc with sonar sometimes. Yes water temperature and thermal layer will also effect sonar. Very bad if you are in a RN warship escorting a convoy and a U-boat sinks one of your ships and you can't pick the thing up on sonar or asdic.

Also the wreck of the Argentine submarine ARA San Juan has been located on 18 Now 2018 the boat was lost with all 44 crew including the Argentine Navy's first submarine officer in November 2017.
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 01 December 2018, 03:22:42
Just watching recording on Foxtel.
Franklins Lost Ship.

Very interesting.
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: AvastMH on 01 December 2018, 08:29:49
I have read that melting ice up in the artic in WW II also played havoc with sonar sometimes. Yes water temperature and thermal layer will also effect sonar. Very bad if you are in a RN warship escorting a convoy and a U-boat sinks one of your ships and you can't pick the thing up on sonar or asdic.

Also the wreck of the Argentine submarine ARA San Juan has been located on 18 Now 2018 the boat was lost with all 44 crew including the Argentine Navy's first submarine officer in November 2017.

Melt water affecting radar - never thought of that before. And now thinking about it, how would a submarine know the difference between a ship's hull and the rump end of an iceberg?  :-\
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 05 December 2018, 00:06:29
Poor old Queensland (AU).

last week bushfires all up the coast.
This week storms and flooding.

Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Randi on 05 December 2018, 00:17:25
:'( :'( :'(
>:(
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Randi on 05 December 2018, 09:04:49
Welcome Back
and a very belated
Happy Birthday
to Caro
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Michael on 05 December 2018, 12:44:11
Yes, indeed. Happy Birthday, Caro! And, welcome back. I hope you are rested after your holiday, and ready to put on the OW traces!
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: AvastMH on 05 December 2018, 16:01:28
Poor old Queensland (AU).

last week bushfires all up the coast.
This week storms and flooding.

OW!  :-[ :-[ :-[  You can't tell people there to cheer up because some people don't believe in Climate Change.  ::)
I hope things get better for Queensland soon  :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: AvastMH on 05 December 2018, 16:32:24
A very happy birthday to you Caro - and welcome home

 :D :D :D

(https://i.imgur.com/ZFzhs0H.png)
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Bob on 05 December 2018, 20:48:26
Happy Birthday, Caro!  ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Hanibal94 on 06 December 2018, 11:50:13
Happy belated Birthday, Caro!

(https://s3-us-west-1.amazonaws.com/cottagebaker-media/wp-content/uploads/2018/02/12113748/cat%20cake-247x300.jpg)
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Randi on 06 December 2018, 12:59:21
Nice cake ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 06 December 2018, 15:22:54
Hay Caro just be sure to keep the cake safe (or eat it soon) as there is a donut nicker around on the forum.  ::)

Have a good one.
Stuart
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: AvastMH on 07 December 2018, 07:33:38
Hay Caro just be sure to keep the cake safe (or eat it soon) as there is a donut nicker around on the forum.  ::)

And I thought we'd got donut security upgraded...must have a look at that again then  :o :-\

(https://i.imgur.com/4q5NKb1.png)
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Randi on 07 December 2018, 09:47:04
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Michael on 07 December 2018, 12:40:13
 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Hanibal94 on 07 December 2018, 12:52:28
Good one, Joan!  ;D ;D ;D
Did you build that yourself?
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 07 December 2018, 14:26:37
 ??? OK ,you got me on that one. I could not bust that one free.   :'(  :-[  :(

Nice one Joan.
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: AvastMH on 07 December 2018, 16:19:09
 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

It's not my work sadly, hanibal - wish it were  ;)
Stuart - keep your eye on our donuts - if any more go missing, we should be told  ;) ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 07 December 2018, 18:45:47
The way I eat donuts the forum will be the last to be told if any go missing.  :P  ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Dean on 07 December 2018, 19:22:46
Dear Caro:

(https://i.imgur.com/HXKEJUZ.jpg).  (https://i.imgur.com/mtV7DWE.jpg).    (https://i.imgur.com/Pe4VikM.jpg)    (https://i.imgur.com/w90v0mz.jpg)
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: AvastMH on 08 December 2018, 05:36:01
The way I eat donuts the forum will be the last to be told if any go missing.  :P  ;D

 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 08 December 2018, 06:34:33
There was a 1kg donut (well a long, wide, thick cream filled donut not the holy one) eating challenge I almost took up but I was in the town on my own and its not quite as much fun.
Use TFSE to look up Kenilworth 1kg donut challenge.
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Caro on 08 December 2018, 11:17:54
Thank you all for the welcome home and birthday wishes.
The cakes are fabulous.  :-*

I thought I had already replied here but it appears I was dreaming.  ::)
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: AvastMH on 08 December 2018, 14:28:56
There was a 1kg donut (well a long, wide, thick cream filled donut not the holy one) eating challenge I almost took up but I was in the town on my own and its not quite as much fun.
Use TFSE to look up Kenilworth 1kg donut challenge.

 :o :o :o  Stuart - 1Kg donuts must be good for you - you look so young! 'Stick with them' is my advice  ;) ;D ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 08 December 2018, 14:38:42
Not sure I want to try a "Strongback Pudding" thought. Mer-4pm
https://catalog.archives.gov/OpaAPI/media/6919261/content/arcmedia/dc-metro/rg-026/585454-noaa/bear/vol106/26-159A-bear-vol106_019.jpg (https://catalog.archives.gov/OpaAPI/media/6919261/content/arcmedia/dc-metro/rg-026/585454-noaa/bear/vol106/26-159A-bear-vol106_019.jpg)

It seems to go hand in hand with Chaffing gear which also sounds painful.
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Randi on 08 December 2018, 18:16:50
From the Sailor's Wordbook:
Quote
PUDDENING, or Pudding. A thick wreath of yarns, matting, or oakum (called a dolphin), tapering from the middle towards the ends, grafted all over, and fastened about the main or fore masts of a ship, directly below the trusses, to prevent the yards from falling down, in case of the ropes by which they are suspended being shot away. Puddings are also placed on a boat's stem as a kind of fender; and also laid round the rings of anchors to prevent hempen cables or hawsers from chafing.
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: AvastMH on 08 December 2018, 18:23:39
Not sure I want to try a "Strongback Pudding" thought. Mer-4pm
https://catalog.archives.gov/OpaAPI/media/6919261/content/arcmedia/dc-metro/rg-026/585454-noaa/bear/vol106/26-159A-bear-vol106_019.jpg (https://catalog.archives.gov/OpaAPI/media/6919261/content/arcmedia/dc-metro/rg-026/585454-noaa/bear/vol106/26-159A-bear-vol106_019.jpg)

It seems to go hand in hand with Chaffing gear which also sounds painful.

English is such a rich language  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Randi on 10 December 2018, 20:44:52
Your Apps Know Where You Were Last Night, and They're Not Keeping It Secret (https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2018/12/10/business/location-data-privacy-apps.html)

How to Stop Apps From Tracking Your Location (https://www.nytimes.com/2018/12/10/technology/prevent-location-data-sharing.html)
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Michael on 11 December 2018, 09:58:49
Hmmm! There were no instructions to turn off the location on my wall phone!  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Helen J on 11 December 2018, 13:12:05
Just another reason why I'm holding out against getting a smartphone ....
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Hanibal94 on 11 December 2018, 14:20:02
Thanks Randi - I have a smartphone, as it is unfortunately not possible for me to make do without, so I turned off the location.
Also: Every time I create an account with something, I always go through the settings and try to max out my privacy as much as possible.
But it can be pretty hard to keep track of everything you use, and whether you still need it or not.
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Kevin on 11 December 2018, 14:41:58
Here's this year's Arctic Report Card: https://youtu.be/XntO9a-NpeM
and something from the NYT: https://nyti.ms/2zUoZ0n
and WAPO:https://www.washingtonpost.com/energy-environment/2018/12/11/arctic-is-even-worse-shape-than-you-realize/?fbclid=IwAR34zByMGbZ-zITc7-_ew3KYVmksC6fDHGEFefClrkxcveEt9RALsw_5cPk&utm_term=.967aae155de9

There's quite a bit of footage in the video we shot from the Twin Otter this past summer, and a few photos from that expedition when we tried to find the Jeannette.

Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Michael on 11 December 2018, 15:29:09
 :o and  :'(
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: AvastMH on 11 December 2018, 15:59:01
 :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 11 December 2018, 17:21:02
When I looked at the Washington Post link the sidebar ads were for an Umbrella that will last forever. Is that a sign?  :o
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Hanibal94 on 12 December 2018, 14:33:31
Gollum as Theresa May: Leaked Footage from inside 10 Downing Street (https://www.youtube.com/embed/Tjp5OmoDYQM)
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Michael on 12 December 2018, 14:37:17
 ;D ;D ;D

I saw it a couple of days ago. Very funny.
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: AvastMH on 12 December 2018, 15:28:58
When I looked at the Washington Post link the sidebar ads were for an Umbrella that will last forever. Is that a sign?  :o
::) :-\ :o  I'll start buying shares in umbrellas, and probably parasols too.

Gollum as Theresa May: Leaked Footage from inside 10 Downing Street (https://www.youtube.com/embed/Tjp5OmoDYQM)
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D  Excellent - very good indeed.
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 13 December 2018, 15:05:01
Lets all save the planet from climate change and buy the latest Mercedes electric car.

https://vimeo.com/254035263 (https://vimeo.com/254035263)

Stuart   ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Randi on 13 December 2018, 15:24:47
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: AvastMH on 13 December 2018, 15:39:13
 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

That's sooooo funny - brilliant!
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Michael on 13 December 2018, 17:19:37
Ditto!
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 14 December 2018, 14:45:15
Just to keep you in the fun mood, here is an oldie but goodie.

Is a computer male or female?

A professor at the end of his last class to a group of post-graduates told the students that he wants to have one last group activity with them before he leaves the college. He asked men to move to one side of the class and women to move to the other side. He then wrote the following question on the board and asked both the groups to think about the answer with justifications:

"Is the computer a male or female?"

Men's response: The computer is female because

No one but their creator understand their internal logic
When computers communicate with each other, they communicate in code language only they can understand
Every mistake we make is stored in their hard-drive which can be retrieved later
As soon as you commit to one, you find yourself spending half your paycheck accessorising it.

Women's response: The computer is male because

To get their attention, you need to turn them ON
They have a lot of data but still cant think by themselves
They are supposed to solve our problem, but half the time they ARE the problem
As soon as you commit to one, you realise that if you had awaited a little longer you could have got a better model

Looks like the girls had the last laugh this time around.

 ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Michael on 14 December 2018, 14:48:33
 I've always said that in the old days the devil tormented people with boils and sores and pestilence etc. etc. Now he just gives us a computer.
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Hanibal94 on 14 December 2018, 16:08:10
In German, which has gendered nouns, the computer is indeed male!  ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 14 December 2018, 16:18:37
Its Good To Be A Man

Wedding plans take care of themselves.
Chocolate is just another snack.
You never have to drive to another gas station because this one's just too icky.
Wrinkles add character.
Your pals can be trusted never to trap you with: "So, notice anything different?"
One mood, ALL the time.
If you are 34 and single, nobody notices.
You can quietly watch a game with a buddy for hours without thinking "He must be mad at me."
The same hairstyle lasts for years, maybe decades.
Your belly usually hides your big hips.
You can "do" your nails with a pocketknife.
You have freedom of choice concerning growing a moustache.
You can do Christmas shopping for 25 relatives, on December 24th, in 45 minutes.
________________________________________________________________________________
Speaking ENglish Could Kill You !!!

The Japanese eat very little fat and suffer fewer heart attacks than the British or the American.
The Mexicans eat a lot of fat and also suffer fewer heart attacks than the British or the Americans.
The Japanese drink very little red wine and suffer fewer heart attacks than the British or the Americans.
The Italians drink excessive amounts of red wine and also suffer fewer heart attacks than the British or Americans.
The Germans drink a lot of beer and eat sausages and fats and suffer fewer heart attacks than the British or Americans.

THE MEDICAL CONCLUSION IS;

Eat and drink what you like. Speaking English is apparently what kills you. 
________________________________________________________________________________
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Randi on 14 December 2018, 18:50:06
;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: AvastMH on 16 December 2018, 17:36:53
 ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: JamesAPrattIII on 16 December 2018, 17:57:40
For the ladies: on youtube they have getting dressed videos on how women got dressed over the centuries here are some from the WW I period:

getting dressed WW I the VAD nurse ( todays ladies might think how can a woman work dressed like this?)

getting dressed in a 1914 fashion ( todays ladies might think hey she looks great but it is a pain to get dressed like this)

getting dressed WW I the young women ( todays ladies might think hey I could wear something like this today)

I hope this is of some interest
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: AvastMH on 17 December 2018, 17:21:31
I watched the WW1 nurse - imagine that lot on a hot summer's day?  :o It does look smart though  :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Caro on 21 December 2018, 09:25:18
Happy birthday Joan  :-*
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: jil on 21 December 2018, 10:06:06
Hope you're having a great day, Happy Birthday, Joan!
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Randi on 21 December 2018, 10:11:49

Happy Birthday
to
Joan

(https://i.pinimg.com/736x/89/5c/63/895c63ed8a080f55fa036583eb58cead--cute-hedgehog-hedgehog-cake.jpg)
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Michael on 21 December 2018, 12:07:23
Yes indeed!!!

Happy Birthday, Joan.

We'd be at sea without your steady hand on the tiller.  ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Helen J on 21 December 2018, 12:22:26
Happy birthday, Joan!  I hope you can enjoy the day without all your energy going on Christmas preparation.
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: AvastMH on 21 December 2018, 12:28:16
Awwwwwe - thanks everyone!!  :D :D :D

Lovely cakes Randi. The hedgie babies are so cute  :D

I'll keep my hand on the tiller Michael  :D

Helen you will be proud of me. No Xmas things today except (starting very soon) Mince Pie Night. Just a nice run of birthday like things.  :D

Start of a new decade this year - 30 years old again - oh all right, 30 x 2 then  ;D  I thought I'd be sitting in my carpet slippers, knitting woollies for all the grandchildren, and drinking tea twenty times a day.  No one mentioned anything about having stacks of fun on OldWeather!  8)
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Helen J on 21 December 2018, 13:08:11
Awwwwwe - thanks everyone!!  :D :D :D

Helen you will be proud of me. No Xmas things today except (starting very soon) Mince Pie Night. Just a nice run of birthday like things.  :D


I'm impressed - and I think you can be forgive the early Mince Pies as it's your birthday ....  ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Hurlock on 21 December 2018, 15:29:35
Happy Birthday Joan
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 21 December 2018, 15:40:25
I will drink a toast to your birthday Joan and have a mince pie.
The local brewer has made a "Yule Ale" which includes Mince pies from the local baker.
Stuart

Q to Randi.
Are those French Fries in the Hedgehogs?

Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: AvastMH on 21 December 2018, 17:57:41
Thank you Hurlock and thank you Stuart  :D :D :D

Ooooo - Yule Ale - that's a very fine thing Stuart. Heavy, sweet, warming, and delicious. I bet it's yummy with mince pies  :P :P ;D

Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Randi on 21 December 2018, 18:55:17
Q to Randi.
Are those French Fries in the Hedgehogs?

I think they are slivered almonds.

(if those are French Fries, then those must be very large cupcakes ;))
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 21 December 2018, 19:01:34
Thank you Hurlock and thank you Stuart  :D :D :D

Ooooo - Yule Ale - that's a very fine thing Stuart. Heavy, sweet, warming, and delicious. I bet it's yummy with mince pies  :P :P ;D

The ale has mince pies IN the brew.
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: AvastMH on 23 December 2018, 09:39:37
Ah - I had a sneaky feeling that I'd read that wrong. Mince pies in the Ale? Cor - that's right odd!  Do you get a spoon with your pint to scoop the bits out?  :D
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Hurlock on 23 December 2018, 12:43:57
You could end up very pie-eyed though.
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Randi on 23 December 2018, 13:10:38
:P :P :P :P :P
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: AvastMH on 23 December 2018, 16:43:12
Nice one Hurlock  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Dean on 23 December 2018, 19:56:44
Joan:

(https://i.imgur.com/mtV7DWE.jpg)(https://i.imgur.com/Pe4VikM.jpg)(https://i.imgur.com/HXKEJUZ.jpg) (https://i.imgur.com/w90v0mz.jpg)
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 23 December 2018, 20:55:40
As tonight is Christmas Eve Downunder and I will be away from my PC for a couple of days, I wish you all Complaints

Complements of the Season to one and all.
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: AvastMH on 24 December 2018, 07:57:53
Thank you Dean - I intend to add many more to the current total  ;D

And for you, Stuart, I wish you a wonderful Christmas. I hope that Santa brings you everything that you have on your list.  ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Randi on 24 December 2018, 11:54:33
Pulling Santa's sleigh tonight we have:

Reindeer I (Stern-Wheel Gunboat No. 35) (https://www.history.navy.mil/content/history/nhhc/research/histories/ship-histories/danfs/r/reindeer-i.html)
Reindeer II (YT-115) (https://www.history.navy.mil/content/history/nhhc/research/histories/ship-histories/danfs/r/reindeer-ii.html)
Reindeer III (ATA-189) (https://www.history.navy.mil/content/history/nhhc/research/histories/ship-histories/danfs/r/reindeer-iii.html)
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: jil on 24 December 2018, 11:56:56
Pulling Santa's sleigh tonight we have:

Reindeer I (Stern-Wheel Gunboat No. 35) (https://www.history.navy.mil/content/history/nhhc/research/histories/ship-histories/danfs/r/reindeer-i.html)
Reindeer II (YT-115) (https://www.history.navy.mil/content/history/nhhc/research/histories/ship-histories/danfs/r/reindeer-ii.html)
Reindeer III (ATA-189) (https://www.history.navy.mil/content/history/nhhc/research/histories/ship-histories/danfs/r/reindeer-iii.html)
;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Helen J on 24 December 2018, 13:16:13
Excellent, Randi!

And a very happy Christmas to everyone - may you have everything requisite for a splendid celebration.
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Caro on 24 December 2018, 13:18:47
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/oRsit7gV3MnBl8skYsR_FWHW8nmPmlsVN4VA22ZRecf9Yqe_lmKv9cIWKHyldnbVcmhZ4x2uGJFQN7uxtPpvy0ZTlOhyNqiQ0lo_Kk8xlA-R2aTngojRzHs77XMwDvSwEB0xO4Ny89_7ZYqQ7bzqSZn5CMpCRg9dn5mgAMdNllOmRSBtWQiozf6bWUEQiOxXtMMKcC4P5gYOXrQfgz1Ijsp8Cr2sdG3-PbGssjc1GkOpaqYuTSC2NSMmHZ7Qej6bnwOKH90EMMAIvz_BdX5aT8zAprEm53j6F4Ez03OBtIVH-1TNY9b1PL4fDgJVIyeCU2-AB7tVdt_OPB3FI0Sg-6O-W3DHCHa640IYHE-9kAfC4KWFqtLdEMrcXeUt-VmxHdbd5JRwHKGMxa2zN9NNfrbG2Nz5m1MpVt1tiudX4QH7IIChpyDsUoiSk-TWTBm5pWfkmaDrSQpshrJbtb5oEqCePBwsCwVMC0xPALksgUSr-cmS_07YmHT2kLo7CF1YBAqR9-CIcCUzt_KRrxIGfjBomHZogQt119_o2V_vjZGTxGj39CNKUiWJ1e1dPW4dcoY8Cojtn-b3sttAy5yjBGovSAFLbmAnZadrkIsA79oSMDQBljm1bYPIoV10dfa_KWAeR0NjG1TgEpeaTC9HoTtrdg=w800-h606-no)

Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: AvastMH on 24 December 2018, 15:52:13
Nice one Randi  ;D ;D ;D

The top speed for those Reindeers is 13 knots per hour - still we all know that time around Santa is not what Einstein would expect...so I guess the presents will still get around in good time  ;) ;) ;D



How many times have I seen the old and new version of 'A Miracle on 34th Street'? Can't count them. I'm watching it now and still about to cheer when the judge decides for Santa...Yeeeeehhhh!!!!   Phew - judge made the right decision (again).  ;)


Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Maikel on 25 December 2018, 03:15:01
Best of the season to you all.

I've created an animated wish for you again.
It only takes 46 seconds of your time.
Nicely short, so you won't get too annoyed by the corny music. ;)

Watch it here: https://www.youtube.com/embed/H4vvAxDNvTI
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: studentforever on 25 December 2018, 05:35:06
Happy Christmas
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: lollia paolina on 25 December 2018, 05:38:53

Merry Christmas to you all

:)
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Hurlock on 25 December 2018, 07:31:36
Merry Christmas everybody
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Hanibal94 on 25 December 2018, 09:01:04
God Jul!
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Randi on 25 December 2018, 10:23:50
Great job, Maikel!



Happy Christmas
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Michael on 25 December 2018, 10:50:10
Merry Christmas one and all!
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: jil on 25 December 2018, 10:56:15
Hope you're all having a Happy Christmas!
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Randi on 25 December 2018, 13:13:42
A little late...
How decorating for Christmas sends people to the ER (https://www.sciencenews.org/article/christmas-holiday-decorations-injuries-emergency-room?utm_source=email&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=latest-newsletter-v2) ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Thursday Next on 25 December 2018, 15:16:13
Happy Christmas to all - sorry my greeting is a little late!
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Thursday Next on 25 December 2018, 15:18:48
Best of the season to you all.

I've created an animated wish for you again.
It only takes 46 seconds of your time.
Nicely short, so you won't get too annoyed by the corny music. ;)

Watch it here: https://www.youtube.com/embed/H4vvAxDNvTI

Great video, Maikel - thank you!

Unfortunately it led into one about Brexit, but that's not your fault  :'(
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Randi on 25 December 2018, 17:11:56
Perhaps Santa Had to Shout to His Eight Reindeer Because They Fell Asleep (https://www.nytimes.com/2018/12/24/science/reindeer-body-clock.html)
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Michael on 26 December 2018, 10:54:53
The US Navy makes a big change. (https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/world/no-more-bread-and-water-us-navy-scraps-an-age-old-penalty/ar-BBRqZKK?li=AAggFp5&ocid=mailsignout)



Michael's link doesn't seem to work any more, but here is another.
https://www.joemygod.com/2018/12/us-navy-to-scrap-bread-and-water-punishment/
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Randi on 26 December 2018, 12:13:37
Good find!

They make an interesting point about bread-and-water being less harmful to the sailor's family than docking the sailor's pay :-\
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: AvastMH on 27 December 2018, 09:00:24
Wonderful message Maikel - super cartoon :D

Checked out all the other links - very interesting.  I'm keeping clear of the Christmas Tree from now on  :o
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Helen J on 27 December 2018, 09:26:12
Thank you everyone for your Christmas greetings - and remember, it's still Christmas!  Hope you can go on celebrating .... ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: AvastMH on 27 December 2018, 12:20:31
Thank you everyone for your Christmas greetings - and remember, it's still Christmas!  Hope you can go on celebrating .... ;D

I'm putting my every effort into it Helen!  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Maikel on 28 December 2018, 04:06:40
Ever wanted to know the movements of hundreds of Royal Navy vessels during World War 1?

Watch or interact with all naval-history.net WW1 ships as they move about the globe here:
https://www.journeyplotter.nl/wherewerethey.html

(https://www.journeyplotter.nl/images/Where Were They.gif)
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Randi on 28 December 2018, 09:15:59
8) 8) 8)
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Hurlock on 28 December 2018, 11:53:03
That is very impressive.
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Helen J on 28 December 2018, 13:21:45
Wow, Maikel, that is stunning - just watching all the ships suddenly appearing as the War started really brought home what a cataclysmic event it was ....
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Maikel on 28 December 2018, 13:48:47
Thank you all. :D

I'm not quite sure the burst of ships at the start of the war is truly representative of the real number of vessels before, during and after the war.
We have transcribed only a selection of the logs, and of a limited period, too.
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: jil on 28 December 2018, 17:23:16
Really cool!
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Bob on 28 December 2018, 17:32:35
Very nice!   8)
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 28 December 2018, 23:59:51
My south facing veranda thermometer in the shade says 40c at 16:00 my time.(05:00 GMT)

Slightly up on the 38c showing yesterday.

Similar tomorrow.

It's not a scientific thermometer but on normal days its usually close to the Met reports but it's up 4C today.

Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Michael on 29 December 2018, 00:15:35
 :o

Make sure you drink plenty of beer.
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Dean on 29 December 2018, 19:18:15
:o

Make sure you drink plenty of beer.

We made 12?C yesterday which is quite spectacular since the Dec 28 normal here is usually about MINUS 12?C!! 8)
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: AvastMH on 31 December 2018, 07:37:14
Very impressive piece of work Maikel. It's quite absorbing :D



Here's a picture to cool you down Stuart...and my best wishes to everyone for the New Year! ;D

(https://i.imgur.com/qjI9SXR.png)
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Randi on 31 December 2018, 11:38:13
Nice card. Joan!
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Michael on 31 December 2018, 13:10:31
 :) :) :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 31 December 2018, 14:41:21
Thanks for the card Joan. Nice sun dog.
It is now 2019 hear.Happy New Year etc, etc, etc,


2019  2019  2019  2019  2019  2019  2019  2019  2019  2019  2019  2019  2018  2019  2019  2019  2019  2019  2019  2019  2019 2019  2019  2019 

(Just practising to get the year right.)   ;)  ;D 
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Caro on 31 December 2018, 15:45:03
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/tfL8mEIReYx8iR3VDGlYpyuEUv36NkAw2n1-PxIikrrwavF36n7vFeejGK_tGuZ7rvtqbCYEIRWOhZJrauDOI4Z9-BkZ4X40RTtoojazG56c_dUhw1EeiLDK85sS7CB7HlcZ4IN_hnsbBq5dvw7ywv1-vHQEVR5Q2cdBy_k1n8V1guLsmq6fbrayxuraKJTipN3pzcTb9oMmYV2TPSHcGPEriFS9b87FIkhiEp1ohkEUN7nivUK0IhshBhOhDsd2VAvm8sbye0XqJ-ZMb68r23k2z7H0AyRy05CqKOkWMvezeLx77PCypsuE7NJ1MNJ6YbpzPzu_p0242crvQV6xypDouQGlVg-SFWiJ7uUFeiz_waVg5SLbTUSqXw2Q54sKwwGLPPdgB1x-3gHEfkQAAANfXOaSDZFtMwRMYbcwA4a-GAB7ldKWQN_GrFZQQ5kKAsj6g299QObzhsKr9wXwGrvNl09ExBxVHl3WKWseiq_akE8T-nyNWnt9zP8uNAfIgQTrqWvHG-kQNbjilchWkf0X1hm-AbfEXgdbRBcHkjBEH5TM2R-Bojl8fqAWNS8CcvuDHgcnVft-piSLnX_nvUV-SFltkn4kMD7MIEYbX3r4kijQ3gOojs8lWEjI3XwkV4WA50-XPOeTfS2zr2lDi72LZSKxJNk7xaf4oA_fWAjCm8xs5IzmxzLGCd7NaICOZjuIwxozw0Ke5sd7evg=w610-h454-no)

Happy new year!
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Randi on 31 December 2018, 16:03:43
Beautiful!
Thanks, Caro.


Happy New Year !
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 31 December 2018, 16:50:54
Randi, don't forget to change the Chat 2017/2018 to inc 2019.  (when it get there your time)  ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Randi on 31 December 2018, 17:11:24
I split 2017 off from 2017/2018 and then renamed 2017/2018 to 2018/2019 ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Kevin on 31 December 2018, 20:45:23
An interesting story about a note in a bottle (from 1981):
https://www.nytimes.com/1981/04/06/world/letter-in-bottle-recalls-lost-chapter-in-arctic-exploration.html
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Randi on 31 December 2018, 21:56:30
8)
Title: Re: Chat - 2018
Post by: Randi on 31 December 2018, 22:02:04
Out with a splash: Pittsburgh area closes 2018 with precipitation record
Quote from: https://www.post-gazette.com/local/region/2018/12/31/Pittsburgh-rainfall-precipitation-2018-record-New-Year-forecast-First-Night-fireworks/stories/201812310091
Almost from the start, 2018 socked southwestern Pennsylvania with rain-driven landslides, flash floods and swamped basements.
Now the region has closed out the year with a soggy new record.
At 5 p.m. Monday, the steady rain falling in Pittsburgh nudged the region past the high-water mark set in 2004, according to the National Weather Service in Moon.
That year, 57.41 inches fell in the area, said Shannon Hefferan, a meteorologist at the weather service. The new record claimed in 2018 is 57.53 inches -- but it won't last long. More rain is expected to add to the tally by midnight.