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Title: Chat - 2016
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 01 January 2016, 01:18:54
I'm back, having toasted 2016 in with Times Square, and then finished playing games with family.  The rolling midnight line is proving mild and happy - I'd recommend staying dry and drinking a similar toast to welcome it.  ;)

(https://img.evbuc.com/https%3A%2F%2Fimg.evbuc.com%2Fhttp%253A%252F%252Fcdn.evbuc.com%252Fimages%252F17047187%252F24250841862%252F1%252Foriginal.jpg%3Frect%3D0%252C16%252C700%252C350%26s%3D94c5f7d5e37f463328f84d1c3013ec30?h=230&w=460&s=ac29292712c686f5512e0c771f4fb757)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: jil on 01 January 2016, 05:38:45
Slightly late but...

Happy New Year!
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Randi on 01 January 2016, 06:13:51
Quote from: https://www.zooniverse.org/projects/zooniverse/old-weather/talk/187/20239?comment=50999
Northwind
1 January 1947

69 12.5 S
179 34 E
(Ross Sea)


0000-0400

Underway as before,
Making slightly more than four;

Steering 190 p.g.c.
The Antarctic is no place to be;

Turning three six r.p.m.
Ice is trying to hem us in;

Using pilot house control
With Little America - the ultimate goal.

The good ship NORTHWIND is in the lead
With others following at top speed.

At forty minutes past New Year
Other ships have stopped through fear.

Northwind circling to clear a path
But the mighty Sennet is in due wrath

Claims that she could pave the way -
But breaking ice takes more than say.

Channel cleared and vessels freed
Proceeding now at lessened speed

At four bells - course is set
One three five seems the best yet

Zero three hundred (0300) finds new lead
On 185, the ships proceed.

Twenty minutes has gone by
When Helicopter takes to sky.

Admiral Cruzen is aboard
And it ain't New York he's headed toward

And now with copter drawing near
Here's to all - A HAPPY NEW YEAR

J.P. Van Etten; Lieut (jg)
Poetic license expired 12/31/46


(https://zooniverse-static.s3.amazonaws.com/old-weather-2015/Cold_Science/Coast_Guard/Northwind_WAG-282_or_WAGB-282_/Northwind-WAG-282-1947-split/Northwind-WAG-282-1947-0005-1.JPG)




Notes:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Sennet_%28SS-408%29
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_H._Cruzen
http://www.northjersey.com/obituaries/local-obituaries/james-p-van-etten-formerly-of-nutley-involved-in-navigation-technology-development-dead-at-93-1.1383088
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Tegwen on 01 January 2016, 06:59:42
Was fast asleep when the hour passed, but now up to wish you all a belated Happy New Year
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Randi on 01 January 2016, 07:32:48
Was fast asleep when the hour passed
So was I ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Dean on 01 January 2016, 07:53:54
Woke up when we heard the fireworks from the downtown area.

2016 looks OK from here!

Be well , all and Happy New Year!!!!
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Craig on 01 January 2016, 08:13:30
I drifted off about 10:30. Fortunately, it happened without any help from me.

Happy New Year!
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: AvastMH on 01 January 2016, 08:31:25
0000-0400
....
At four bells - course is set
One three five seems the best yet

Zero three hundred (0300) finds new lead
On 185, the ships proceed.

Twenty minutes has gone by
When Helicopter takes to sky.

Admiral Cruzen is aboard
And it ain't New York he's headed toward

And now with copter drawing near
Here's to all - A HAPPY NEW YEAR

J.P. Van Etten; Lieut (jg)
Poetic license expired 12/31/46


(https://zooniverse-static.s3.amazonaws.com/old-weather-2015/Cold_Science/Coast_Guard/Northwind_WAG-282_or_WAGB-282_/Northwind-WAG-282-1947-split/Northwind-WAG-282-1947-0005-1.JPG)[/size]



Notes:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Sennet_%28SS-408%29
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_H._Cruzen
http://www.northjersey.com/obituaries/local-obituaries/james-p-van-etten-formerly-of-nutley-involved-in-navigation-technology-development-dead-at-93-1.1383088


Randi - that's just fantastic!! Hey everyone - check out 'this day in history' on the new Forum...it's great!  :D :D :D
Here's the link again ;D  https://www.zooniverse.org/projects/zooniverse/old-weather/talk/187/20239?comment=50999&page=4

Glad to hear that Craig and Michael didn't go swimming  ;) :D Exciting to see Times Square...I wonder if anyone every records the light level there?  :)
Hope your New Years are going well...mine started with a 10 hour sleep despite watching a very scary ghost story just before bed.
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 01 January 2016, 08:44:34
I loved that poetic log page. 

Quote
Exciting to see Times Square...I wonder if anyone every records the light level there?  :)

Times Square is the only neighborhood in the nation with zoning ordinances that give a minimum lighting level required, instead of the standard maximum limit.  :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: AvastMH on 01 January 2016, 08:48:31
Times Square is the only neighborhood in the nation with zoning ordinances that give a minimum lighting level required, instead of the standard maximum limit.  :)

THAT really does amuse me Janet...minimum light level...fab ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Hanibal94 on 01 January 2016, 08:50:28
Great poem, Randi. Thanks for posting these.
Is there a forum topic where those things are collected? I remember another poem being found on the USS Edwards.
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Randi on 01 January 2016, 09:38:50
Thanks for the reminder, Hanibal94.

In the forum: http://forum.oldweather.org/index.php?topic=4249.0
In Talk: https://www.zooniverse.org/projects/zooniverse/old-weather/talk/187/13742

The Edwards poem will have to wait till we get the Edwards ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Michael on 01 January 2016, 10:25:32
Yes, Happy New Year, all.

Having realized that I could not avoid 2016, I trundled off to bed, pulled the covers over my head and, with my guard cat standing watch by my feet, went to sleep. And, with a temperature of zero and a wind of zero greeting me this morning, it appears that nothing untoward has happened.  ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Hanibal94 on 01 January 2016, 16:55:54
Wait - apart from Joan and Janet J, did anybody else manage to stay up till midnight last year? I made it all the way to 2 am!

Oh, and here's a quick laugh for everyone:

(http://img10.deviantart.net/f6db/i/2015/365/4/9/attention__by_billneigh-d9ma8p6.jpg)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: AvastMH on 01 January 2016, 17:13:32
Very funny!  ;D I always wondered if he ought to get something for his dry throat...perhaps those famous lozenges available in the UK 'Fisherman's Friends'  ;D (They are very good, but are definitely Vader strength!!  :o

Well done for making it so far into 2016 before heading to the land of nod  :D I'm going to get an early night soon... 8)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Craig on 01 January 2016, 17:17:47
I think he has a viability problem. He should hire a PR man (or woman if he is so inclined).  ;D

I only made it to 10:30 last night. I hope I don't lose any confetti because of this.  :(
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: AvastMH on 01 January 2016, 17:29:11
Craig if I were not messing around only on a phone I'd send you a picture of a funfetti machine which I would happily award you...can't buy it...it's ?283...gulp! But one can dream  ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Craig on 01 January 2016, 18:23:03
Thanks for the offer, Joan. The anticipation is often better that the real thing in any case.  ;D

I meant visibility rather than viability above but it amounts to the same thing.
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Hanibal94 on 01 January 2016, 19:13:53
I meant visibility rather than viability above but it amounts to the same thing.

I was wondering about that!  ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: HatterJack on 02 January 2016, 00:55:48
Fisherman's Friend is the bee's knees when it comes to lozenges. I don't go anywhere without them and a small amount of orange spice tea and some honey.

And as to the question Hanibal posed... I work graveyard shifts, from 1900 until 0700, and I was working, so I was definitely up beyond the passing of last year.
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Randi on 07 January 2016, 11:13:36
From Zovacor
Quote from: https://www.zooniverse.org/projects/zooniverse/old-weather/talk/148/10409?comment=53742
Wrecks of two whaling ships destroyed by ice in 1871 found off Alaska coast

https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/wrecks-of-two-whaling-ships-destroyed-by-ice-in-1871-found-off-alaska-coast/2016/01/06/287adfb0-b48b-11e5-a76a-0b5145e8679a_story.html
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: AvastMH on 07 January 2016, 16:06:09
I don't go anywhere without them and a small amount of orange spice tea and some honey.

ooo - that sounds nice Hatterjack! (more to my liking that FF's I'm sorry to say - but they are very powerful lozenges!)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: AvastMH on 07 January 2016, 16:07:51
From Zovacor
Quote from: https://www.zooniverse.org/projects/zooniverse/old-weather/talk/148/10409?comment=53742
Wrecks of two whaling ships destroyed by ice in 1871 found off Alaska coast

https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/wrecks-of-two-whaling-ships-destroyed-by-ice-in-1871-found-off-alaska-coast/2016/01/06/287adfb0-b48b-11e5-a76a-0b5145e8679a_story.html

Very interesting! Hatterjack's already told us a fair bit about this terrible disaster - it's amazing to see what became of the ships.
By the by I don't recall anything more about raising the Jeannette since last autumn. :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 07 January 2016, 17:31:37
From Zovacor
Quote from: https://www.zooniverse.org/projects/zooniverse/old-weather/talk/148/10409?comment=53742
Wrecks of two whaling ships destroyed by ice in 1871 found off Alaska coast

https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/wrecks-of-two-whaling-ships-destroyed-by-ice-in-1871-found-off-alaska-coast/2016/01/06/287adfb0-b48b-11e5-a76a-0b5145e8679a_story.html

The most recent news is the original press release in February 2015.  I'd like to know too how that is going.

Very interesting! Hatterjack's already told us a fair bit about this terrible disaster - it's amazing to see what became of the ships.
By the by I don't recall anything more about raising the Jeannette since last autumn. :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Randi on 08 January 2016, 02:45:37
Flying Scotsman: Famous engine back on tracks (http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-leeds-35251312)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: HatterJack on 08 January 2016, 02:48:04
So I've been snooping, because the Jeanette is one of the great tragic naval stories of the 19th Century, and arguably one of the more emotional naval disasters affecting the US Navy.

Unfortunately, there's been virtually no progress made on the raising of Jeanette. This is due to a couple factors. Firstly, the Russian military has begun building operating bases in the area, and has laid claim to the entirety of the sea floor, from the Siberian coastline to the pole. This claim is hotly contested, but the military presence in the area has made it unsafe for any non-Russian expeditions, and the Kremlin has denied access to the region while they build the new installations.

Second, Khoroshev, the Russian adventurer who expressed interest in raising the ship as a gesture of goodwill back in February 2015, has been a bit distracted by attempting (and setting) a new world record for high-mountain diving. His new record is for a dive at Ader Co Lake in Tibet, at an altitude of 5,671m. As a result of the new record attempt, he hasn't even begun attempting to raise funds or even get permission from the Kremlin to raise the ship.

Third, and probably most importantly, the Jeanette went down in 18m of water in rather close proximity (relatively speaking) to the north pole. There's a pretty safe bet that her location is contained in this image, which illustrates one of the major reasons why she still lies at the bottom of the sea.(http://eoimages.gsfc.nasa.gov/images/imagerecords/38000/38392/henriettais_ali_2009120_lrg.jpg)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 08 January 2016, 03:34:26
Ah, yes - main problem isn't money this time - altho that is real - it's keeping your salvage vessel from being crushed by the ice.  Having 2 ships in the same spot on the bottom isn't very useful.
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Craig on 08 January 2016, 05:38:44
The ice problem will probably resolve itself if they are patient.
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: HatterJack on 08 January 2016, 09:07:46
In light of the fact that the one-two punch of El Nino and climate change have brought the Arctic temperatures above freezing in the middle of winter, for the first time in recorded history, it's hard not to think that this past year is just a harbinger of much worse on the way. We're currently about 1 degree Celsius higher than the pre-industrial average, and we've seen, in our lifetimes, the severe melting of the worlds glaciers, the polar ice caps shrinking by larger and larger margins every year, and severe weather occurring out of sync with typical seasonal patterns. And even if the agreement signed in Paris last month is followed with near-religious fervor, and we manage to hold the global temperature to 1.5 degrees above pre-industrial average, that still calls for significantly more dramatic changes in the global climate.

If we're seeing the north pole thawing out in the middle of winter at 1 degree higher, at 1.5 I think that the predictions we were seeing in 2012 of there being no summer ice at the north pole by *this year* may not be too far off.
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 08 January 2016, 09:13:49
I really don't want that as a reason for raising the Jeannette. :'(
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Hanibal94 on 08 January 2016, 10:47:18
I'm gonna live long enough to see it all happen - so I really hope the goal of 1.5 is met!  :o
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: AvastMH on 08 January 2016, 12:05:08
Flying Scotsman: Famous engine back on tracks (http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-leeds-35251312)

I love steam trains - just love them. Got caught in the steam coming off one in Poole Station when I was about 2 years old. Magical.  8) :D
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: AvastMH on 08 January 2016, 12:06:24
I'm gonna live long enough to see it all happen - so I really hope the goal of 1.5 is met!  :o
So do I - paint the top of your house white if you can - reflect as much heat as you can. Let's stop the Jeannette ever being raised through ice-free waters  ::) 8)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Michael on 08 January 2016, 13:44:03
Flying Scotsman: Famous engine back on tracks (http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-leeds-35251312)

I love steam trains - just love them. Got caught in the steam coming off one in Poole Station when I was about 2 years old. Magical.  8) :D

I remember getting soot, or ashes or a cinder in my eye while looking out the window of a train going from Liverpool to Stockton-on-Tees back in 1956. Steam trains are romantic, but otherwise smelly, dirty and not good for the eyes.  :'(
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 08 January 2016, 14:27:51
Flying Scotsman: Famous engine back on tracks (http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-leeds-35251312)

I love steam trains - just love them. Got caught in the steam coming off one in Poole Station when I was about 2 years old. Magical.  8) :D

I remember getting soot, or ashes or a cinder in my eye while looking out the window of a train going from Liverpool to Stockton-on-Tees back in 1956. Steam trains are romantic, but otherwise smelly, dirty and not good for the eyes.  :'(

My grandfather worked maintenance for the Pennsylvania RR, ended up supervisor for all ground maintenance for the southern half of Cook County.  Movies make my think steam engines are romantic, Grandpa thought diesel made life a lot easier - all the coal piles and water towers with their myriad pipes that leaked went away.

I do love trains, prefer riding Amtrak to flying.
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: AvastMH on 09 January 2016, 14:53:52
Hello potential Shipopoly players! I think we've got room for one or two more players on the next game. Games only run for a month now (that goes by pretty fast) so if you're interested drop us a note: http://forum.oldweather.org/index.php?topic=4338.msg123621#msg123621

It'll get you over the dull days of post-Christmas :D
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Randi on 10 January 2016, 04:13:22
Happy Birthday
to
mapurves
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Caro on 10 January 2016, 04:25:55
Happy birthday Michael
and belated happy birthday wishes to Kathy for January 8.  :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Randi on 10 January 2016, 04:31:26
Belated
Happy Birthday
to
Kathy
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Hanibal94 on 10 January 2016, 04:44:39
Happy Birthday to Michael and Kathy!
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Tegwen on 10 January 2016, 07:25:50
Indeed, happy Birthday Both.
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: jil on 10 January 2016, 07:44:28
Happy Birthdays Michael & Kathy!!!
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: studentforever on 10 January 2016, 08:06:05
Happy birthdays indeed.
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Craig on 10 January 2016, 08:48:42
I join the others in wishing you a happy birthday, Michael and Kathy. Is this still your 111th?
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: AvastMH on 10 January 2016, 10:02:08
A VERY HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO YOU BOTH, KATHY AND MICHAEL!



(http://i.imgur.com/jJdcbdh.png)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Michael on 10 January 2016, 13:33:05
I join the others in wishing you a happy birthday, Michael and Kathy. Is this still your 111th?

Thank you one and all.

Not quite 111, but it's also a multiple of three.  ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 10 January 2016, 15:14:48
Happy Birthday, Michael  :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Kathy on 10 January 2016, 17:37:38
Thank you all very much for the birthday wishes - and yes, I am 111 this year  ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Randi on 12 January 2016, 10:33:16
New development could lead to more effective lightbulbs (http://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-35284112)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 12 January 2016, 12:47:18
that is cool - I hope it maintains less toxic materials in construction, the best of both worlds.
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Randi on 12 January 2016, 13:09:39
Internet Explorer users 'at risk' as tech support ends (http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-35291938)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Randi on 12 January 2016, 13:16:04
Giant icebergs play 'major role' in ocean carbon cycle (http://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-35280895)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: AvastMH on 12 January 2016, 14:01:30
New development could lead to more effective lightbulbs (http://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-35284112)

It's really interesting when the scientists shed some light on things like this.  ;) ;)  ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: AvastMH on 12 January 2016, 14:03:37
Internet Explorer users 'at risk' as tech support ends (http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-35291938)

I'm glad I don't have to use it...never seems to work well. But the thought of the hackers having a rare old time with it is annoying.  :-\

Giant icebergs play 'major role' in ocean carbon cycle (http://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-35280895)

Cool! Literally! I'll send this on to Yshish who moderates PlanktonPortal  :D
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Michael on 12 January 2016, 15:45:58
There's an interesting time lapse video of arctic ice that's very worthwhile. It lasts about a minute and you can get it here (https://www.rt.com/news/328468-arctic-ice-melting-timelapse/). A friend who used to work with me in the Yukon Weather Centre sent me the link. The video is partway down the page, below the image.

Farther down there is a time lapse of the arctic ice extent for last summer.
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: AvastMH on 12 January 2016, 16:21:24
oh no....we'll be able to swim to the North Pole soon   :( :-[
transcribe everyone...faster!  ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 13 January 2016, 02:13:33
Don't know if any of us still use IE browser, but it is being phased out - yesterday, or so they said on the news.  Looking that up on Microsoft's site, they are still updating and securing only the latest version 11 - all the others will no longer be updated or protected.  Not that OW ever tolerated IE any way.

Support for older versions of Internet Explorer ended on January 12th, 2016 (https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/WindowsForBusiness/End-of-IE-support)

They are replacing it with a new browser, Edge - made for Windows 10 - and keeping the IE-11 for sites that need backward compatibility.  I have no idea how that works here, and don't really want to try it.  But some of us who already got Windows 10 may already have it.
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Hanibal94 on 13 January 2016, 07:45:50
I have Edge, and don't use it. According to the Wiki, performance is better than IE but reception is mixed: Some people think it has poor design and user-friendliness.
Me, I'm sticking with the way I've always done it: Chrome as primary browser, Firefox as backup.
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Randi on 13 January 2016, 08:06:02
I'm sticking with the way I've always done it: Firefox as primary browser, Chrome as backup. ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Dean on 13 January 2016, 11:30:08
Now that I've done the Mac upgrade to ElCapitan I'm back to Safari with Chrome as backup.

IE always 'scared' me as when it first came out and for a LONG time it was 'buggy' and subject to regular hacks.
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Hanibal94 on 13 January 2016, 12:00:11
Quote from: CollegeHumor
If web browsers were family members:


Chrome = Cool Older Brother
He's always making small changes to his look, but somehow pulls it off every time.  Everyone in the neighborhood knows his name.  And he's so cool, he hooks you up with free goodies and doesn't even tell a single person about it.

Firefox = The Creative Sibling
They might not be as naturally good looking as Chrome, but make up for it in other ways.  For one, they dress well.  They know how to accessorize.   And they're creative.  Every once in a while, you hear of something cool they're doing that makes you wanna hang out with them.

Internet Explorer = The Cousin That You Used To Be A Lot Closer With
You were pretty much best friends back in the day.  You don't see them as much nowadays, but every time you hear about them, people are saying they're still doing pretty well.  Maybe you should give them a call sometime?  You guys do have a lot of history together.

Opera = Little Brother
He's not super popular.  Well, except on the Wii.  He's got more Wii friends than real life friends.  But you know what, you're okay with that if he's okay with that.

Safari = Annoying Teenage Sister (Sorry, Dean!)
That doofus is always on the phone.  I mean, there's really nothing WRONG with her.  In fact, you two get along pretty well when you're together.  But the only time you'll see her detached from a phone, she'll be on her Mac.  She's got an unhealthy relationship with Apple products.

Netscape = Deceased Crazy Grandpa
The dude went nuts a while back.  Whenever you see old family photos of him, he was a good looking guy who looked like he had his stuff together.  Then he got old, stopped taking his medications, and became the laughing stock of the neighborhood before fading away and dying alone.  You and your siblings are afraid this might happen to you some day.

(Edited from original: Bad words replaced, personal comment in blue added)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Michael on 13 January 2016, 13:21:30
What about Mosaic, or am I the only one old enough to remember it?  :'(
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 13 January 2016, 14:50:09
What about Mosaic, or am I the only one old enough to remember it?  :'(

No question I'm (and many of us) are old enough - but that was back in my Apple Mac days when I never even thought of shopping for another browser.  I left my last job, then my Mac broke, then my brother hired me part-time insisting I get a PC.  I do miss Apple. :'(
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: AvastMH on 13 January 2016, 15:12:52
I remember Mosaic...only used it once or twice. And of course we all used Netscape to be sure that IE didn't rule the world! I seem to recall that Netscape and a lovely icon with shooting star going past a (with revolving light) lighthouse. Whilst the star shot and the light went round you knew you were getting a service... now it's all so assured that who needs to see anything supportive? As long as there's no 'wheel of doom' all's well  ;) 8)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Dean on 13 January 2016, 17:56:00
What about Mosaic, or am I the only one old enough to remember it?  :'(

No question I'm (and many of us) are old enough - but that was back in my Apple Mac days when I never even thought of shopping for another browser.  I left my last job, then my Mac broke, then my brother hired me part-time insisting I get a PC.  I do miss Apple. :'(

I remember Mosaic...only used it once or twice. And of course we all used Netscape to be sure that IE didn't rule the world! I seem to recall that Netscape and a lovely icon with shooting star going past a (with revolving light) lighthouse. Whilst the star shot and the light went round you knew you were getting a service... now it's all so assured that who needs to see anything supportive? As long as there's no 'wheel of doom' all's well  ;) 8)

Hannibal: I don't know where the 'issue' is with Safari & Apple. That have always supported it strongly. I'm old enough to remember and have lived on Netscape and a few others too old to mention. Did spend quality time with Firefox for certain jobs but Safari is the main go to for us Mac people!!  ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 13 January 2016, 19:25:26
Quote
Hannibal: I don't know where the 'issue' is with Safari & Apple. That have always supported it strongly. I'm old enough to remember and have lived on Netscape and a few others too old to mention. Did spend quality time with Firefox for certain jobs but Safari is the main go to for us Mac people!!  ;)

Safari and its predecessors were always solidly dedicated to Apple, and Apple users never had any complaints.  That tongue-in-cheek description made me smile, female in a crowd of males and far more successful than them in her dedicated area than any of them.  :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: HatterJack on 14 January 2016, 08:24:28
Oh man... talk about old days of the interwebs flashbacks. I cut my teeth on Mosaic back when PC's were first starting to become a thing, then graduated to Amaya (now there's one I'd be surprised if people remember), until Firefox came out, then Chrome, and now Edge, even though the only thing I ever used IE for was either work related (for some reason, too many IT departments only allow IE despite it's glaring security faults) or for downloading a better browser.

I have to admit that when I finally upgraded to Windows 10, I was really dubious of the new Edge browser, and I'll be the first to say that people complaining about it not being very new-user friendly aren't just blowing smoke. That said, once I got used to it, I actually ended up preferring it to even Firefox and Chrome (although I still bounce between the two when I'm at work, since I went through the trouble of bypassing the company firewall just to install them because I really can't stand IE). There's just something about its minimalist design that's very appealing to me. It definitely isn't for everyone, though, and only time will tell if Microsoft has actually created a relatively secure browser for once.
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: AvastMH on 14 January 2016, 17:09:45
Amaya - you got me there - never heard of that one  ;) :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Caro on 15 January 2016, 09:57:06
The Welsh village where it's rained every day since October (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-35321130)

 :o
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 15 January 2016, 11:08:16
(http://rs717.pbsrc.com/albums/ww173/prestonjjrtr/Weather/raining.gif~c200)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: AvastMH on 15 January 2016, 13:19:10
(http://rs717.pbsrc.com/albums/ww173/prestonjjrtr/Weather/raining.gif~c200)

 ;D ;D ;D And if jil would leave a message here so we can see her excellent, but very Welsh-weathered avatar we'd be looking for our snorkels. So far it hasn't rained here today - and that's jolly nice!
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: jil on 15 January 2016, 15:57:31
As ordered  ;)

And despite lots of sun this morning  :) it did rain here this afternoon.  :'(
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: AvastMH on 15 January 2016, 16:04:35
so sorry to hear it jil. It stayed clear here, and with a wind building up it was very bitter. If we get rain on a front it will fall as snow just now.  :o
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Danny252 on 16 January 2016, 05:43:56
The Welsh village where it's rained every day since October (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-35321130)

 :o

So just like every other village in Wales, then? :P
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: studentforever on 16 January 2016, 09:14:50
We nave a covering of slushy snow which will be OK until we get a frost!! Must look out my anti-slip thingies which go over my shoes or boots, long-handled scraper for car roof and  regret that I did not buy the thingies which go on my walking stick to let it dig into icy snow.

In some ways it is simpler when you live somewhere which always gets snow for most of the winter. Here we get snow a few days a year most winters, sometimes hardly any, sometimes lots so you have the problem of how much gear to buy and store 'just in case'. Whatever you get seems like a waste some years and not enough others.
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: AvastMH on 16 January 2016, 09:22:21
at least put a sock over your walking stick ferrule - held on with a good elastic band - it makes some difference.  :)
Luckily only hard frost here. Must nip out and put out tea for the birds :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Caro on 16 January 2016, 09:23:07
The Welsh village where it's rained every day since October (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-35321130)

So just like every other village in Wales, then? :P

Yeah. And some others.

http://www.ceh.ac.uk/news-and-media/news/record-uk-rainfall-river-flows-december-2015-flooding
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: AvastMH on 16 January 2016, 09:32:00
that's it - I'm growing flippers!  ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: jil on 16 January 2016, 09:34:58
Snowing here, now! Only gently though - whatever the snow equivalent of drizzle is.
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 16 January 2016, 11:04:03
Snowing here, now! Only gently though - whatever the snow equivalent of drizzle is.

Snow Flurries.  Just enough to to make the air sparkle pretty and dust everything with a very thin white coat.

I'm alternating days overcast and clear blue - today is sunny and cold, starting the slide down to frigid tomorrow.

 :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Michael on 16 January 2016, 15:29:53
Snowing here, now! Only gently though - whatever the snow equivalent of drizzle is.

Snow Flurries.  Just enough to to make the air sparkle pretty and dust everything with a very thin white coat.

I'm alternating days overcast and clear blue - today is sunny and cold, starting the slide down to frigid tomorrow.

 :)

Here's the official definition from Environment Canada's Manual of Observations (http://www.ec.gc.ca/manobs/default.asp?lang=En&n=4174EBE7-1#ch0304):

3.4.3.3 Snow Grains (SG)  What Jill is probably seeing. Janet is likely describing ice crystals.

Precipitation of very small white and opaque grains of ice. These grains are fairly flat or elongated; their diameter is generally less than 1 mm. When the grains hit hard ground, they do not bounce or shatter. They usually fall in very small quantities, mostly from Stratus or occasionally from fog, and never in the form of a shower.

3.4.3.6 Ice Crystals (IC)

A fall of non-branched ice crystals, in the form of needles, columns or plates, often so tiny that they seem to be suspended in the air. These crystals may fall from cloud or from a cloudless sky. In WMO terminology, ice crystals are referred to as diamond dust.
3.4.3.6.1

The crystals are visible mainly when they glitter in the sunshine; they may then produce a luminous pillar or other halo. This hydrometeor, that is frequent in polar regions, occurs only at very low temperatures and in stable air masses.

3.11.2 Showers
Showers (For the public we use the word showers for rain but flurries for snow. Technically they are snow showers.)
Showery precipitation falls from cumuliform cloud and can be further identified by one or more of the following features:

    Showers often (but not always) begin and end abruptly.
    Showers usually occur in periods of short duration, perhaps 15 min or so, but they may last much longer.
    Usually there are rapid fluctuations in the intensity of the precipitation.
    There is a noticeable brightening of the sky between showers.
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Randi on 16 January 2016, 15:36:50
Very helpful! Thanks.
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 16 January 2016, 16:44:26
Quote
Showers (For the public we use the word showers for rain but flurries for snow. Technically they are snow showers.)

Chicagoans - lay folk and weather forecasters alike - usually use flurries, and they usually do not actually sparkle, they just fall in a way that is very pretty to watch fall while not interfering with visibility or safe pavements.  Ice falls (lay name 'sleet') don't feel pretty, they sting as they hit your face.  :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Michael on 16 January 2016, 19:20:01
Quote
Showers (For the public we use the word showers for rain but flurries for snow. Technically they are snow showers.)

Chicagoans - lay folk and weather forecasters alike - usually use flurries, and they usually do not actually sparkle, they just fall in a way that is very pretty to watch fall while not interfering with visibility or safe pavements.  Ice falls (lay name 'sleet') don't feel pretty, they sting as they hit your face.  :)

Yes, every local area has its own terminology. I go with the MANOBS definitions which are the same as the WMO's, except where noted - and those are few. For people interested in just what the many weather definitions are, MANOBS (http://www.ec.gc.ca/manobs/default.asp?lang=En&n=B6F4CF69-1) is a good and easy place to look. Precipitation and other atmospheric phenomena are defined here (http://www.ec.gc.ca/manobs/default.asp?lang=En&n=4174EBE7-1). Cloud descriptions are found down from here (http://www.ec.gc.ca/manobs/default.asp?lang=En&n=A1B2F73E-1#ch0108) in section 1.8.5.1. When I trained as a weather observer, back when the world was young, we spent three months going over every aspect of this manual.
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 16 January 2016, 21:06:04
I know, each area has its own dialect.  I just waited for getting older before acquiring the official vocabulary.
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: jil on 17 January 2016, 10:13:26
Thanks Michael! It doesn't snow often enough here (NW England) to have (or at least for me to have picked up) much language for it - lots of words for rain though!
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Dean on 18 January 2016, 19:50:32
Thanks Michael! It doesn't snow often enough here (NW England) to have (or at least for me to have picked up) much language for it - lots of words for rain though!

I've heard that Eskimos have 300+ words to describe snow.   ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Michael on 18 January 2016, 20:04:55
I've heard that Eskimos have 300+ words to describe snow.   ;)

40, but who's counting. Mind you, we have a fair number: corn snow, slush, powder, crunchy, squeaky (which you will hear when it is colder than -22C), wet, fluffy, crusty, hard packed, drifted, ... I could go on but, fortunately, I haven't seen any so far this winter, and what there was in the previous three winters, if it all fell at once, might have been no more than two inches deep in total, if that.  :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :)

Oh, and our snowdrops have been in bloom for two weeks now.
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 18 January 2016, 20:10:08
I've heard that Eskimos have 300+ words to describe snow.   ;)

40, but who's counting. Mind you, we have a fair number: corn snow, slush, powder, crunchy, squeaky (which you will hear when it is colder than -22C), wet, fluffy, crusty, hard packed, drifted, ... I could go on but, fortunately, I haven't seen any so far this winter, and what there was in the previous three winters, if it all fell at once, might have been no more than two inches deep in total, if that.  :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :)

Oh, and our snowdrops have been in bloom for two weeks now.

You are just trying to make us south and east of you with a current wind chill of -9F (-23C) jealous.   ::) :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Michael on 18 January 2016, 20:55:37
I've heard that Eskimos have 300+ words to describe snow.   ;)

40, but who's counting. Mind you, we have a fair number: corn snow, slush, powder, crunchy, squeaky (which you will hear when it is colder than -22C), wet, fluffy, crusty, hard packed, drifted, ... I could go on but, fortunately, I haven't seen any so far this winter, and what there was in the previous three winters, if it all fell at once, might have been no more than two inches deep in total, if that.  :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :)

Oh, and our snowdrops have been in bloom for two weeks now.

You are just trying to make us south and east of you with a current wind chill of -9F (-23C) jealous.   ::) :)

I know, and I love it! Payback after having 40 years of winter. My coldest wind chill was:
1990/12/02/10    -59.3 deg C

The coldest temperature and I was walking home from work (3 km):
2005/01/13  -46.6 deg C

so I feel justified in making you jealous.   ;D

Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 18 January 2016, 21:26:52
Quote
I know, and I love it! Payback after having 40 years of winter. My coldest wind chill was:
1990/12/02/10    -59.3 deg C

The coldest temperature and I was walking home from work (3 km):
2005/01/13  -46.6 deg C

so I feel justified in making you jealous.   ;D

Definitely deserve it - I'll stick with my "mild" winters near the Lake, with my record of -24F (-31.1C) - I was shoveling my car out that week.
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: AvastMH on 19 January 2016, 16:00:55
I've had a few people staying here who had never experienced snow before. I had to point out that warmer snow makes the best snow balls - but it you pat them and pat them and pat them - you create an ice ball that can take an eye out. Snow balls are an art form  ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Craig on 19 January 2016, 17:02:18
I gave my granddaughter a gift of coloured snowballs Christmas before last (she was 11). I mixed some food dyes with a bit of cold water and rolled them in it and then put them in the freezer until Christmas. I had told her this was going to be her present and she didn't believe me  ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 19 January 2016, 17:10:08
Just got back from a short cruise, 30C, about 80% humidity (well it seemed like that) and lots of Gin & Tonic and not a snow ball in site.
 ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 19 January 2016, 17:13:10
Snowballs are an art form and can be fun to make right.

Your granddaughter probably never before got an artful handmade present that never saw a department store.  :)

And YOU live on the side of the globe that is able to torture us who are freezing our toes off.  (Or would be if I didn't have good boots.)  You succeeded in making me very envious.
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Craig on 19 January 2016, 19:23:36
Funny thing is weather.
2 weeks ago we had snow in the Blue Mountains, now we have Bushfires in the same place.   :o

-3C at home this morning, not counting wind chill. Down to -8C in places within 100km radius.

Snow in the city of Hobart, usually only on the top of Mt Wellington.

Cold weather down under, enjoy your Autumn up over.

 ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Hanibal94 on 20 January 2016, 13:40:39
Why should you be more like Bill? (http://www.bbc.com/news/blogs-trending-35344300)

(No, not Bill Gates!)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: AvastMH on 20 January 2016, 13:50:39
Interesting....Social Media is certainly moving into more reflective areas. I have to say that if there is a move for people to spend less (but more constructive) time on things like Social Media sites, and move to more constructive uses of their time in general it would be a good thing.
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Randi on 20 January 2016, 14:03:06
Very sensible advice.
I only hope that the people who need it take it...
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Dean on 20 January 2016, 19:20:01
Interesting....Social Media is certainly moving into more reflective areas. I have to say that if there is a move for people to spend less (but more constructive) time on things like Social Media sites, and move to more constructive uses of their time in general it would be a good thing.


I find most of my 'spare' computer time used for OW.

You mean there is 'Social Media' besides HERE???!!!!!   ::)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Randi on 21 January 2016, 02:48:14
 ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Hanibal94 on 21 January 2016, 05:35:24
Dunno if anybody here has regular Windows 8 - as in not Windows 8.1 - but just in case:

http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/upgrade-windows-end-extended-support/

The tone may be a bit blunt, but this is serious business!
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Craig on 21 January 2016, 06:46:44
I guess for us W7 users the main concern is the time limit on the free upgrade to W10. I think that's in July, isn't it?

My unsupported XP machine is still happily chugging away doing BOINC tasks. My free virus checker never finds any viruses either.
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 21 January 2016, 07:00:43
I guess for us W7 users the main concern is the time limit on the free upgrade to W10. I think that's in July, isn't it?

My unsupported XP machine is still happily chugging away doing BOINC tasks. My free virus checker never finds any viruses either.

I have it on my appointment calendar - This month last chance to upgrade for free ? paying starts July 29th 2016 is posted on July 1st.
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Craig on 21 January 2016, 07:28:54
Thanks, Janet. That's what I remembered. I am going to hold out for a while yet.
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Helen J on 22 January 2016, 09:57:32
Thinking of anyone out there in the way of the expected blizzards in eastern USA - keep safe!
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Bob on 22 January 2016, 10:10:42
All stocked up, hunkered down, and waiting for the snow to start (Washington, DC, area). I just hope we keep power and internet, gotta have my OW fix!

Thinking of anyone out there in the way of the expected blizzards in eastern USA - keep safe!
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Caro on 22 January 2016, 11:16:07
Stay safe, all of you.
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 22 January 2016, 11:18:49
Fully stock your pantries, East Coast.  Please stay safe.  And hopefully powered with internet. 
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: studentforever on 22 January 2016, 13:12:38
Stay safe, mobiles powered, torches & spare batteries ready and plenty of tinned stuff just in case. If it gets really cold and power goes off then make sure you have drinking water.

I remember the winter of the miners' strike with regular power cuts (my flat was all electric).  Thermos flask, radio, hot water bottle, sleeping bag in lounge (underfloor heating so some residual heat), fingerless gloves, camping lantern & torch and whatever cold food was on the menu.  The only saving grace was that they did eventually get a rota sorted out so you did get power for 4 hours at least once a day.
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: AvastMH on 22 January 2016, 13:21:54
Winter Draw(er)s on East Coasters! 

I recall the miners' strike, studentforever. We had out camping stuff to the ready. We had two primus stoves and a tilly lamp so we were fine. Every night a good stew from the pressure cooker. I loved it because it was like camping so we played a lot of cards (after homework). But for many elderly without gas heating it was very hard. But then so were the lives of the miners.  :-\

Just looked up your weather - looks horrid - really do be careful - especially if you must go out  :)  I wonder if we will inherit the dog end of this storm over here?
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Kathy on 22 January 2016, 14:22:44
Sonarok  has begun   ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 22 January 2016, 15:01:00
Sonarok  has begun   ;D

Hunker down and stay safe, Kathy.
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Randi on 22 January 2016, 15:38:41
The US house hounded by phone trackers (http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-35381320) ::)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: AvastMH on 22 January 2016, 15:55:53
What a nightmare!! I turn my phone off when I'm not using it...I hope that confounds the wretched Big Brother elements of mobiles  :-\
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 22 January 2016, 19:22:51
The advantage to living in a large apartment building is, if any tracker gives my address a false positive, the seekers will have 10s of households to choose from.

How horrible to have to live with that.
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: jil on 23 January 2016, 06:38:35
Hope you're all safe and warm (and still able to transcribe  ;)) on the East Coast!
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: jil on 24 January 2016, 03:38:12
Someone's enjoying the snow  :)

Tian Tian enjoys blizzard (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-35392623)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Randi on 24 January 2016, 08:39:59
Deer have the run of Washington's empty streets (http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-35395676)

US snowstorm: White House timelapse footage (http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-35393951)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Bob on 24 January 2016, 09:15:53
We got about 30 inches of snow, 15 miles west of Washington. The shoveling will now begin, at least after I finish this cup of coffee, or maybe the next cup.  ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Helen J on 24 January 2016, 10:20:01
Don't overdo the shoveling, Bob!  But you sound as though you've still got power and internet, so life isn't too bad ....
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Thursday Next on 24 January 2016, 15:30:03
I'll second that!  I heard on the BBC World Service that often some of the casualties of heavy snow falls are people who have had heart attacks while shovelling snow outside their houses, rather than getting stuck in snowdrifts, and they were warning not to shovel snow unless you were already fit and used to taking strenuous exercise.  I can't say this had ever occurred to me before.
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: AvastMH on 24 January 2016, 16:38:26
I suspect that shovelling snow is like gardening - the best at the job drink lots of tea. A few shovels, a cup of tea, a few shovels, a cup of tea, a few shovels.....  :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 24 January 2016, 16:52:54
I suspect that shovelling snow is like gardening - the best at the job drink lots of tea. A few shovels, a cup of tea, a few shovels, a cup of tea, a few shovels.....  :)

I have heard RUM keeps you warmer, after all they did dispense on Navy ships.   :D
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Bob on 24 January 2016, 17:25:01
Alas, no rum, but we did stock some Guinness!
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 25 January 2016, 01:24:43
Alas, no rum, but we did stock some Guinness!

 ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Caro on 25 January 2016, 16:12:20
Happy Burns Night!
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: AvastMH on 25 January 2016, 16:23:57
Aye - Lang may your lums wreak! (http://www.bbc.co.uk/arts/robertburns/burns_night_running_order.shtml)


(http://i.imgur.com/KDHqmWH.png)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 26 January 2016, 02:31:20
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/NYE1uCoUcvh415c1ppJf8t7u_DppdYNk3UFBE083_FJ1Ub4lDY2PCufJef_wkBOXQn-7AMOXsXvHosncHViwY8xUPK6uFF0erWV20YXtFRYAUmVdxBSi4EF3hkHdmaoto-aO3iwLAg942Qu8-BPt0-iKiZFcL3gbZUgu8Qh1dTqbMhccFy6X50zb7sOV-FmYHj6WTvKUqXKR_aQRsqJclNgOJ8k11lpfFS4EqrnGWjQHpf6RO2Lv3bf1ftbQefGBRRNWAjLzzuzaPpc3Yb3RE_YRywjh_zPSP5MdHF9Gyoa0TjzErqPlj-VmHvpQ4SBb1qya3azFBIIvpoKbcp9WDfjlfEb8_4V1Y8bqp-1mMDjaqXe57SHVJJn18KmUWvLqZl9wiVHqcAXBIV0rCKpR0urHmcjaGGW4Q0BNWdn8ZjMz9wSZ7sXGyU_VXy6R7Ej51Q6Ai2BpRLhbFrY7l8x9Ogn98mXnf3Md1Q2Wa_CjudjQK39LF3vgPgQBT5NAzO1hJ8ZCxgfAK52sf3QAlMeGlT2SmFj_s9HyPkw69XptIPqEwjQC82S6xCEH0iB9CjR179pN=w508-h340-no)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Caro on 26 January 2016, 02:58:31
(http://presspage-production-content.s3.amazonaws.com/uploads/1190/500_australiaday_cmyk_colour-2.jpg)

 :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 26 January 2016, 04:29:42
Thanks from Down Under.

Missed out on Burns night  :-[
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Michael on 26 January 2016, 10:24:15
Yes, Happy Australia Day from me, too! It's the correct day for me, but not for you. Sort of sorry!  :-[

Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: AvastMH on 26 January 2016, 14:10:19
(http://i.imgur.com/VbQ23j6.png?1)

- to all you ozzies!  ;D

Amazing that I found exactly this on the Western Australian wildlife project - what a co-incidence  ;)

If any of you fancy a mad session at the other end of the planet - Up Helly Aa is being broadcast live: http://uphellyaa.com/
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 26 January 2016, 14:38:23
Watching Uphellya right now as I eat breakfast before going to play with the trains.
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 26 January 2016, 15:00:55
Joan, heard you mentioned on Uphellyaa, well done.
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: AvastMH on 26 January 2016, 16:22:52
Watching Uphellya right now as I eat breakfast before going to play with the trains.
Woohooo! I got a mention! 'Joan from Kidlington writes in to say she's enjoying our fantastic festival' 1st time I've ever been on radio. Should have mentioned OldWeather  ::)  :D

Enjoy the trains Stuart :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Caro on 26 January 2016, 16:37:47
Nice work, Joan.  :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Michael on 26 January 2016, 17:37:59

Woohooo! I got a mention! 'Joan from Kidlington writes in to say she's enjoying our fantastic festival' 1st time I've ever been on radio. Should have mentioned OldWeather  ::)  :D


A sign of OW non-addiction, perhaps.  ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: AvastMH on 27 January 2016, 14:50:54
You found me out mapurves  ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Michael on 27 January 2016, 15:06:40
Not mentioning OW during a radio interview was a dead giveaway!  ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: AvastMH on 27 January 2016, 15:10:48
oh it was only a blog feed - nothing really exciting  ::)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 27 January 2016, 19:26:48
Happy Birthday on what would have been her 75th Birthday to Astronomer Beatrice Tinsley.
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Hanibal94 on 02 February 2016, 13:39:02
Evening all.

Anybody wanna apply for this very interesting-sounding job? (http://www.goodnewsnetwork.org/help-wanted-professional-panda-cuddler/)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Thursday Next on 02 February 2016, 13:41:57
 ;D I'm sure my experience as a professional cat cuddler would stand me in good stead!
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Helen J on 02 February 2016, 13:42:13
It's very tempting ....
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Bob on 02 February 2016, 14:04:04
Aww, didn't hear about that one.

There was a farm here in Virginia recently looking for goat cuddlers...

http://wtop.com/virginia/2016/01/farm-seeking-goat-cuddlers-meets-volunteer-quota/
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Michael on 02 February 2016, 14:16:37
How about finding some OW cuddlers? Some of us might need it after a hard day on the Concord...  ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: AvastMH on 02 February 2016, 14:52:30
Is this any good?

(http://i.imgur.com/JY10FtT.png)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: AvastMH on 02 February 2016, 14:54:57
on second thoughts...

(http://i.imgur.com/csPMZ30.png?1)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Michael on 02 February 2016, 14:56:15
The lion works for me. It might make Toby the Cat a little jealous though.  ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: AvastMH on 02 February 2016, 15:03:03
I've done better than that. Here is a bear trying to hug the crew of the concord. But as you can see - he can't see them. 'I see no ship(s)mates'

(http://i.imgur.com/w1kEGx7.png)

that's all folks  :D

Apologies to Toby!
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Thursday Next on 02 February 2016, 15:08:04
I have been trying to post an attachment to another thread and have been getting the message: Cannot access attachments upload path!

There clearly isn't a general problem with attachments, so what am I doing wrong?  I have resized it to below 256KB.
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: AvastMH on 02 February 2016, 15:15:28
I'll give it a try myself to see what's up (if it obliges me)  back asap.  :)


Yep - got caught out just as you did ThursdayNext:

(http://i.imgur.com/QJE58Ar.png)

The file I tried to attach was a tiny 46kb. Has anyone got any theories on this one please before I pop a note to the devs for help?
Many thanks, Joan
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Randi on 02 February 2016, 15:17:06
As far as I know, attachments don't work.
The above pictures have been done with links to images stored online.

For the bear it is: [img]http://i.imgur.com/w1kEGx7.png[/img]
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: AvastMH on 02 February 2016, 15:21:08
I have been trying to post an attachment to another thread and have been getting the message: Cannot access attachments upload path!

There clearly isn't a general problem with attachments, so what am I doing wrong?  I have resized it to below 256KB.
Is there any way that I can help while we wait for a fix? Is it an image that I could deal with for you?  :D
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 02 February 2016, 15:35:59
Nice pic Joan, thanks.  :D
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Thursday Next on 02 February 2016, 15:37:28
The photo in question was shared with me by a gentleman whose grandfather served on the Mantua.  He is not really into computers himself but wants the photo to be generally available to anyone else who had family who served on the ship or is otherwise interested, so I am trying to work out how best to go about this.  It's a wonderful photograph and I have managed to date it to between September 1914 and February 1915.  So I want to get it online and available to anyone who searches for "HMS Mantua", but without risking my own privacy - advice appreciated!  I was wondering about Flickr, but don't know much about it.  If I can get the photo uploaded somewhere I will be able to just post a link rather than needing to attach it.
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Randi on 02 February 2016, 15:39:23
Talk doesn't allow attachments, so I doubt that they are going to fix them here :'( :'( :'(
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: AvastMH on 02 February 2016, 15:43:56
oh right - I think I might even remember that!

Thursday Next - check your personal messages I've sent you details of how to use imgur which is suggested as good to use by the Zooniverse Powers That Be. We've been using it especially for images for the new talk system for some months now and it seems to work well. And it's free!  I use my own account for forum pics for OW and for pictures for PenguinWatch. If anyone else wants to use my account for OW I'm happy with that. I keep my own home stuff on imageshack.com.
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Caro on 03 February 2016, 02:24:05
Happy birthday Matteo!

Auguri. :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Hanibal94 on 03 February 2016, 02:56:10
Buon compleanno, amico!
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: AvastMH on 03 February 2016, 07:16:37
A very Happy Birthday Matteo!  ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: HatterJack on 03 February 2016, 07:44:41
Happy Birthday Matteo!
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Randi on 03 February 2016, 08:23:13
Happy Birthday
to

Matteo !


(http://media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/46/3f/ed/463fedb285052e33a5391858d7865771.jpg)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Michael on 03 February 2016, 12:07:43
Yes, VERY HAPPY BIRTHDAY, MATTEO!!

May your Voyages always be successful!  ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: propriome on 03 February 2016, 12:11:04
:D :D THANK YOU SO MUCH, EVERYONE AND EVERYBODY!!!  :D :D
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: jil on 03 February 2016, 12:11:53
Hope you're having a good birthday, Matteo!
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Dean on 03 February 2016, 12:39:22
Matteo:
   Happy Birthday to you,
   Happy Birthday to you,
   Happy Birthday dear Maaaaaatttttteeeeeeeoooooooooooooooooo,
   Happy Birthday to you!

Hope it's a happy one and that you get lots of neat presents!
Hope also you get to share with family!


http://i.imgur.com/LyVvbHL.jpg
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Craig on 03 February 2016, 12:48:39
All the best, Matteo!
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: propriome on 04 February 2016, 03:14:36
:D Thank you very much jil, Dean and Craig!! :D
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Michael on 07 February 2016, 18:53:18
Scraping and painting.

The Officer Commanding insisted on a new floor for the wardroom. It was to be green and yellow tiles with a dark border, one tile wide:

(http://i.imgur.com/MG6n2qm.jpg?2)

This, however, created a problem. The salt and pepper mills for the Officer's table did not match the floor pattern. A new pair, just under the imposed budget, was procured from GSK Puget Sound:

(http://i.imgur.com/s3T5FY9.jpg?3)

This also created a problem. The walls and trim in the wardroom did not match the salt and pepper mills. M. A. Purves (Painter 3c) was summoned and directed to repaint the wardroom in suitable colours (see image above). Of course, the Wardroom has a gangway going to the deck below, and those walls also need painting.

Question: will the re-painting of the gangway leading below decks also necessitate a re-painting of the laundry room, which in turn will require a re-painting of the gangway leading past the head (re-painting here, too?) and on to the crew's lounge?

Inquiring minds need to know...  :'(
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: studentforever on 08 February 2016, 00:12:46
Any time the officers feel that the ship's crew is in danger of idleness (and we all know what the Devil does with idle hands) then scrubbing, scraping and painting is decreed. I am not sure what other activities your 'ship's crew' is engaged with but your CO is obviously following established naval practice. Is  there scope for a 'lost by accident' incident with the paintbrush maybe.
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 08 February 2016, 00:57:50
Or a session with the Holystone maybe.
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Randi on 08 February 2016, 02:54:21
 ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Caro on 08 February 2016, 02:54:59
Question: will the re-painting of the gangway leading below decks also necessitate a re-painting of the laundry room, which in turn will require a re-painting of the gangway leading past the head (re-painting here, too?) and on to the crew's lounge?

Ummmmmm, very possibly. 
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: leelaht on 08 February 2016, 12:47:24
My dad tells a story about his buddy who was in the Navy.  He'd done the painting bit (outside) and hated it.  So next cruise back across the Atlantic he volunteered to work in the galley, figuring shorter hours, less sweaty etc.  Since his hours were different from the rest of his crewmates, he didn't find out until afterwards that the CO'd decided no painting this time.  So while it was fun and games for everyone else, he'd worked sweaty long hours in the galley.
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Randi on 08 February 2016, 13:01:21
 ;D ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: AvastMH on 08 February 2016, 13:06:24
 ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Michael on 08 February 2016, 13:26:53
My dad tells a story about his buddy who was in the Navy.  He'd done the painting bit (outside) and hated it.  So next cruise back across the Atlantic he volunteered to work in the galley, figuring shorter hours, less sweaty etc.  Since his hours were different from the rest of his crewmates, he didn't find out until afterwards that the CO'd decided no painting this time.  So while it was fun and games for everyone else, he'd worked sweaty long hours in the galley.

So, are you suggesting I should be rated from Painter 3c to Ship's Cook 4c before the C.O. decides that the lower deck needs fresh paint?    :o
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Dean on 08 February 2016, 16:13:24
And on,and on, and on. Of course, there will also need to be ordered new Green and Red oil for the Nav lights!

I think the salt & Pepper shakers just need some more and you could play chess on the floor!! ::)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 09 February 2016, 14:55:44
I found this link interesting.

 Weather Satellites (https://cosmosmagazine.com/space/timeline-stroll-through-50-years-weather-satellites?utm_source=This+Week+in+Cosmos&utm_campaign=1d31f6ea75-TWIC_Feb_8_2016&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_1df827744a-1d31f6ea75-112078385)

It's a bit short but what do you expect for free.   ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: AvastMH on 09 February 2016, 15:50:13
Very good - but I have a 57 year old weather satellite - my right index finger. I lick it, stick outside the window/door and wait a few seconds. records temperature, precipitation, wind speed and direction. All at a height of around 5'7" from the local terrain.   ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Caro on 09 February 2016, 16:39:51
Cornish weather forecasting stone:

(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/564x/3c/a2/7a/3ca27a41c426ea19786172c13e754e55.jpg)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Helen J on 09 February 2016, 17:03:27
 ;D ;D ;D ;D (for both of the last two comments ....)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: AvastMH on 09 February 2016, 17:03:43
 ;D ;D ;D ;D So Hi tec - that's why the Cornish should be a nation  :D
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Randi on 09 February 2016, 17:26:39
The "Cornish weather forecasting stone" is/was also available in the US - though I'm not quite sure forecasting is the correct term :-\
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Hanibal94 on 13 February 2016, 13:14:21
Good evening OW.
Today, I wish to teach you all an insightful lesson about what motivation lurks at the hearts of many video gamers:

(https://i.chzbgr.com/full/8518836736/h7F23C274/)

I hope you have learned much from this - Me, I experienced all but the third panel myself.
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: AvastMH on 13 February 2016, 14:20:05
That's a strange coincidence hanibal, because yesterday I stumbled over this cartoon and saved it into imgur against just such a moment  - and it will ring large bells with you I should think  :)

(http://i.imgur.com/fSV7bil.png)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Dean on 13 February 2016, 16:55:48
That's a strange coincidence hanibal, because yesterday I stumbled over this cartoon and saved it into imgur against just such a moment  - and it will ring large bells with you I should think  :)

(http://i.imgur.com/fSV7bil.png)

That has been around for quite a while1 I have posted it, shared it, fought by it. As a teacher for 38 years I KNOW all kids are different and tried to convince parents and Administrators alike of that!  (Sometimes even with some success!!)   ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Hanibal94 on 13 February 2016, 17:36:01
That's a strange coincidence hanibal, because yesterday I stumbled over this cartoon and saved it into imgur against just such a moment  - and it will ring large bells with you I should think  :)

I've seen that one several times - it's used by a lot of autism support/awareness groups and websites and stuff.
But I never saw the quote before - that's a good one!
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Dean on 13 February 2016, 19:48:12
The whole 'Standardised Testing thing'  has been 'big' here in New York State as the Governor & other 'Bright Sparks' have decided that teachers will be evaluated by the scores of their students on State Standardised tests. In my case (were I not retired) up to 60% of my Personal Evaluation would consist of the student scores on State Tests in Reading/Language Arts & Mathematics. The interesting part of THAT STORY is that I taught NEITHER! I taught Science Classes to 165 students daily!  ::)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Randi on 14 February 2016, 04:57:53
Very good images Hanibal94 and Joan!
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Caro on 14 February 2016, 05:05:49
(https://metrouk2.files.wordpress.com/2014/11/rexfeatures_2314891a-e1455208281844.jpg?w=748&h=588&crop=1)

Valentine's chocs for everyone.  ;D (http://images.clipartpanda.com/heart-clipart-RTddEEjT9.png)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Randi on 14 February 2016, 05:11:59
Very good image Caro!

Happy Chocolate Valentine's Day to all.
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: AvastMH on 14 February 2016, 09:07:40
Thanks Caro
Hey - imagine the scent in the warehouses packaging all those roses - woweee  :D

Dean and Hanibal -very interesting comments. Dean your teacher colleagues must be in despair?
I was always bottom of the class - but one of my teachers successfully nominated me for a school prize called 'Application to Study' which recognized that I'd worked my socks off getting nowhere in the system. And it changed my life. I still have that book from the saintly Sr Thomas More and I bless her for it. It taught me a lesson of how to recognize the intelligence in people that the state cannot find because of its own strictures.
It's a shame to see that the State (both here and over the pond, from what you say Dean) is still wearing its corsets to the detriment of, no doubt, so many students.  :(
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Michael on 14 February 2016, 10:36:59
My sister, finally and happily retired, taught elementary school for 35 years here on Vancouver Island. She has many of the same complaints and concerns about the education system here. From what I understand, and I'm not a teacher, the system in Finland is the best.
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Dean on 14 February 2016, 12:32:05
Thanks Caro
Hey - imagine the scent in the warehouses packaging all those roses - woweee  :D

Dean and Hanibal -very interesting comments. Dean your teacher colleagues must be in despair?
I was always bottom of the class - but one of my teachers successfully nominated me for a school prize called 'Application to Study' which recognized that I'd worked my socks off getting nowhere in the system. And it changed my life. I still have that book from the saintly Sr Thomas More and I bless her for it. It taught me a lesson of how to recognize the intelligence in people that the state cannot find because of its own strictures.
It's a shame to see that the State (both here and over the pond, from what you say Dean) is still wearing its corsets to the detriment of, no doubt, so many students.  :(

My sister, finally and happily retired, taught elementary school for 35 years here on Vancouver Island. She has many of the same complaints and concerns about the education system here. From what I understand, and I'm not a teacher, the system in Finland is the best.

Those of us at the bottom are the STRONGEST because we hold the others up! My colleagues still in are very worried about the future of Education. I'm sure there have been issues before and we'll survive - but it is difficult to watch!  I always liked working with the 'slower kids.' many of the Special Ed kids would be 'shifted' to my classes because I worked with them and they did well.
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: AvastMH on 14 February 2016, 13:12:12
Those of us at the bottom are the STRONGEST because we hold the others up! My colleagues still in are very worried about the future of Education. I'm sure there have been issues before and we'll survive - but it is difficult to watch!  I always liked working with the 'slower kids.' many of the Special Ed kids would be 'shifted' to my classes because I worked with them and they did well.
Wonderful words Dean :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: AvastMH on 14 February 2016, 13:23:29
has anyone clicked on the google valentine's images - I just clicked the tissue box and loo roll - funny little thing :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Randi on 14 February 2016, 14:34:46
I get a tea pot and a coffee pot :-\
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Hanibal94 on 14 February 2016, 14:45:26
The German Google has a hedgehog and a cactus.
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 14 February 2016, 14:50:37
The Ozi google was also a cactus and hedgehog.
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: AvastMH on 14 February 2016, 14:54:56
keep opening tabs and you'll eventually get all three :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: AvastMH on 14 February 2016, 14:56:00
Dean - are you hoarding temps of about -28C over there - because apparently it's heading our way  :o

Stay warm Dean & NE Americans  :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Hanibal94 on 14 February 2016, 15:29:56
keep opening tabs and you'll eventually get all three :)

Yep - one of them is a hedgehog and cactus, one is a tea pot and coffee pot, one is a tissue box and a roll of paper towels (It's too tall to be a toilet paper roll). Very creative!
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: AvastMH on 14 February 2016, 16:05:41
a roll of paper towels (It's too tall to be a toilet paper roll

You're right! Never buy the stuff myself so didn't recognise it  ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Dean on 14 February 2016, 19:51:52
Dean - are you hoarding temps of about -28C over there - because apparently it's heading our way  :o

Stay warm Dean & NE Americans  :)

YUP! -30?C here this morning when I made my reports to the National Weather Service. Wind chills in the -40's overnight.   Sunny today and it warmed to  about - 15?C. Now they are calling for a Snow Warning with 15 - 40 cm Monday night into Tues night.  This after one of the warmest,least snowy December/January's in history!!  Global Warming anyone??!!  ::)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Michael on 14 February 2016, 20:40:03
Dean - are you hoarding temps of about -28C over there - because apparently it's heading our way  :o

Stay warm Dean & NE Americans  :)

YUP! -30?C here this morning when I made my reports to the National Weather Service. Wind chills in the -40's overnight.   Sunny today and it warmed to  about - 15?C. Now they are calling for a Snow Warning with 15 - 40 cm Monday night into Tues night.  This after one of the warmest,least snowy December/January's in history!!  Global Warming anyone??!!  ::)

Well, let me see. Our snowdrops have been in bloom for about five weeks now. We set two new max temperature records in the last four days. The narcissus are in bloom, as are the crocuses, and small daisies. I saw my first cherry blossoms last week, on Tuesday.  ;D

Let me say this: after living in the Yukon for over 20 years, I take great pleasure in rubbing that bit of news!!!

(http://i.imgur.com/0Y526JZ.jpg)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Hanibal94 on 15 February 2016, 12:59:36
Evening all.

Today, I learned that Taiwan makes no exceptions when it comes to parking violations.

(http://cdn1.spiegel.de/images/image-947134-galleryV9-fopn-947134.jpg)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Randi on 15 February 2016, 13:06:52
That's a great way to make a point! ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: AvastMH on 15 February 2016, 13:56:13
 ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Randi on 15 February 2016, 14:09:37
Fury after Adobe Creative Cloud deletes files (http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-35577498)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: AvastMH on 15 February 2016, 16:10:32
 :o :o :o that's NOT funny at all. I'd feel pretty disappointed if I were a Mac user suffering this action  >:(

However I noticed this article from that page: Watching the heavens: The female pioneers of science. (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-35413738) Super Science sisters! :D
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Dean on 15 February 2016, 19:55:37
Fury after Adobe Creative Cloud deletes files (http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-35577498)

One of MANY reasons why I stay 'self contained' and do not put ANYTHING on the Cloud.   ::)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Hanibal94 on 16 February 2016, 02:30:47
Fury after Adobe Creative Cloud deletes files (http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-35577498)

One of MANY reasons why I stay 'self contained' and do not put ANYTHING on the Cloud.   ::)

Actually, Creative Cloud isn't a "Backup in the Cloud" app - it's a service that gives you access to Adobe's other apps:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adobe_Creative_Cloud

I would pass on the advice of one of my IT professors, who is a bleeding-heart free-and-open-source software fan: If it's not free (like Adobe Reader), find an alternative that is - like GIMP instead of Photoshop, OpenOffice instead of Microsoft Office, etc.
Of course, there are exceptions - I still use Windows instead of Linux, because I'm just too used to it, and because many of my games would not work on Linux.
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Randi on 19 February 2016, 13:39:39
My email provider marked the following as SPAM:
Quote
FedEx Express

An email containing confidential personal information was sent to you.
Click here to open this email in your browser.

Thanks for choosing FedEx?.

It looked very legitimate, but a search on "fedex express email" gave me the Welcome to the Customer Protection Center link: http://www.fedex.com/us/security/prevent-fraud/email.html

I am not expecting anything; I am not going to open it.

Be careful.

 :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(



PS
Quote from: From FedEx Site
Report Fraud

If you come across suspicious websites that pretend to be FedEx or if you have received fraudulent emails, forward suspicious messages to abuse@fedex.com.

Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Helen J on 19 February 2016, 14:48:07
Very wise, Randi.  My general attitude, especially to anything I'm not expecting, is one of deep suspicion.  If in doubt, delete, is my motto!
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Thursday Next on 19 February 2016, 15:43:54
That's my philosophy as well.  But one thing you can do is to hover your mouse over the sender details and it will show you the email address it came from - this generally confirms that the sender has no connection whatever with the organization in question!
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 19 February 2016, 15:50:43
I right click on the message, select View message source and read the email without opening it.
Amongst the code is the email address/s and you can often read the content text.
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 21 February 2016, 17:17:24
Hicky National Margarita Day (http://nationalmargaritaday.com/)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Randi on 22 February 2016, 12:34:40
Dunwich: The storms that destroyed 'lost town' (http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-suffolk-35549952)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Hanibal94 on 22 February 2016, 14:48:31
Good evening OW.
Here's something clever I found while clearing out old emails. Hope you like it!

Pass the Salt (https://www.youtube.com/embed/6_-xTxP1hD4?)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Randi on 22 February 2016, 15:17:13
If you search for
paper is not dead
you will find a very funny one!

I can't post the link because it is a commercial.
(I can PM the link to you)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Bob on 22 February 2016, 15:20:12
This one showed up in my FB feed. Very funny, indeed, but you have to keep with it to the end.  ;)

If you search for
paper is not dead
you will find a very funny one!

I can't post the link because it is a commercial.
(I can PM the link to you)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: AvastMH on 22 February 2016, 17:12:55
Hicky National Margarita Day (http://nationalmargaritaday.com/)
Isn't it nice that all the girls called Maragrita get a national day - how thoughtful ;) ;D

Dunwich: The storms that destroyed 'lost town' (http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-suffolk-35549952)
Nature is done with Dunwich then :( ;)   I visited there a loooooong time ago....there's even less of it now. Dramatic!  :o

Good evening OW.
Here's something clever I found while clearing out old emails. Hope you like it!

Pass the Salt (https://www.youtube.com/embed/6_-xTxP1hD4?)

I LOVE this video short. I LOVE IT!! What can I do on the bus that is equivalent to the typewriter?  :D :D :D
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Caro on 24 February 2016, 10:09:56
Especially for Randi, Shackleton's library on Endurance (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-35633374).  :)

Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Randi on 24 February 2016, 10:17:58
 8)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Hanibal94 on 24 February 2016, 13:08:49
If you search for
paper is not dead
you will find a very funny one!

I can't post the link because it is a commercial.
(I can PM the link to you)

Yep, that one is great. Thanks for the reminder!
P.S. Is it OK to post parody commercials here - ones where the "product" is a ridiculously obvious fake thing, and it is extremely unlikely anybody would think it is real?
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: AvastMH on 24 February 2016, 13:12:08
Especially for Randi, Shackleton's library on Endurance (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-35633374).  :)
That's an amazing list with a familiar story in it: 'The rescue of Greely by Commander Winfield Scott Schley' Thetis crew - that's you!  :D
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: jil on 25 February 2016, 09:11:14
 :)  8)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: AvastMH on 25 February 2016, 10:59:16
If you search for
paper is not dead
you will find a very funny one!

I can't post the link because it is a commercial.
(I can PM the link to you)

Yep, that one is great. Thanks for the reminder!
P.S. Is it OK to post parody commercials here - ones where the "product" is a ridiculously obvious fake thing, and it is extremely unlikely anybody would think it is real?

Can I check before replying please hanibal? Might be tomorrow before I can reply (apologies - this is a terrible service - normal service will be resumed as soon as someone with more experience puts me straight  ;) :D )
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Randi on 25 February 2016, 12:06:32
If you are not sure about posting something, I suggest PMing it to the moderators and asking them.

Even as mods we sometimes check with each other about the suitability of something we want to post.
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: AvastMH on 25 February 2016, 13:22:43
Thank you Randi :) :) :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: jil on 26 February 2016, 10:29:12
If anyone likes reading crime fiction you might enjoy The Sea Detective by Mark Douglas-Home. The main character is an oceanographer who models sea currents in the North Atlantic and (it being crime fiction) is trying to work out where some body parts washed up on a beach came from. His grandfather served on a trawler escorting Arctic convoys in WWII and a ship's log is involved!
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Helen J on 26 February 2016, 10:34:49
That sounds good, jil.

If anyone is interested in navy pilots, there's a programme on BBC2 this evening at 7pm (a late change I think) about Eric 'Winkle' Brown who died very recently, and who had flown more different planes than anyone else ever.  He was a test pilot and seems to have escaped death or serious injury on many occasions.  He was the first man to land a plane on an aircraft carrier.
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Randi on 26 February 2016, 10:42:29
If anyone likes reading crime fiction you might enjoy The Sea Detective by Mark Douglas-Home. The main character is an oceanographer who models sea currents in the North Atlantic and (it being crime fiction) is trying to work out where some body parts washed up on a beach came from. His grandfather served on a trawler escorting Arctic convoys in WWII and a ship's log is involved!

 8) 8) 8)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Bob on 26 February 2016, 10:49:09
An amazing man, his books are well worth reading if you're at all interested in aircraft or piloting. I had no idea he was still alive so recently, rest in peace, sir.

If anyone is interested in navy pilots, there's a programme on BBC2 this evening at 7pm (a late change I think) about Eric 'Winkle' Brown who died very recently, and who had flown more different planes than anyone else ever.  He was a test pilot and seems to have escaped death or serious injury on many occasions.  He was the first man to land a plane on an aircraft carrier.
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Hanibal94 on 27 February 2016, 14:11:27
Good evening all.

Here's the latest in Very Odd News: A gorilla was seen on the ISS! (https://www.youtube.com/embed/vmh9c5Z1xSE)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Craig on 27 February 2016, 14:14:34
Making anti-gravity waves?  ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Bob on 27 February 2016, 14:30:37
 8)

Here's the latest in Very Odd News: A gorilla was seen on the ISS! (https://www.youtube.com/embed/vmh9c5Z1xSE)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Thursday Next on 27 February 2016, 14:35:25
If anyone likes reading crime fiction you might enjoy The Sea Detective by Mark Douglas-Home. The main character is an oceanographer who models sea currents in the North Atlantic and (it being crime fiction) is trying to work out where some body parts washed up on a beach came from. His grandfather served on a trawler escorting Arctic convoys in WWII and a ship's log is involved!

Thanks for the recommendation, jil - I will give it a try!
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Tegwen on 28 February 2016, 12:56:12
That sounds good, jil.

If anyone is interested in navy pilots, there's a programme on BBC2 this evening at 7pm (a late change I think) about Eric 'Winkle' Brown who died very recently, and who had flown more different planes than anyone else ever.  He was a test pilot and seems to have escaped death or serious injury on many occasions.  He was the first man to land a plane on an aircraft carrier.

Hope you dont mind me correcting a slight error. Eric Brown was not the first to land a plane on a an aircraft carrier. That was first done in 1910. He was the first to land a twin engine plane on an aircraft carrier and the first to land a jet on an aircraft carrier & several other records. Still remarkable achievements.
Apologies for the pedantry!!
K
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Helen J on 28 February 2016, 13:12:30

If anyone is interested in navy pilots, there's a programme on BBC2 this evening at 7pm (a late change I think) about Eric 'Winkle' Brown who died very recently, and who had flown more different planes than anyone else ever.  He was a test pilot and seems to have escaped death or serious injury on many occasions.  He was the first man to land a plane on an aircraft carrier.

Hope you dont mind me correcting a slight error. Eric Brown was not the first to land a plane on a an aircraft carrier. That was first done in 1910. He was the first to land a twin engine plane on an aircraft carrier and the first to land a jet on an aircraft carrier & several other records. Still remarkable achievements.
Apologies for the pedantry!!
K
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Having watched the programme I realised I'd got that wrong, so thanks for correcting this - no need to apologise.   :D  It was a fascinating programme, and he was quite a man.
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Randi on 28 February 2016, 13:18:59
Thinning ice leads to winter warming in the Arctic
Heat-trapping blanket of moisture rising from the sea causes trouble for North Pole, climate simulation shows (https://www.sciencenews.org/article/thinning-ice-leads-winter-warming-arctic)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: AvastMH on 28 February 2016, 14:44:31
how will we ever put this right?   :-[
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: AvastMH on 29 February 2016, 08:21:27
Today is the 29th February. If anyone spots a very rich and handsome man wandering along aimlessly please let me know - this is traditionally the day when women do the marriage proposals.  ;)
Traditionally I call my friend Dave to propose, and traditionally, every 4 years, he turns me down. At least we had a break from it in Millenium year  ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: studentforever on 29 February 2016, 08:29:59
You must have quite a few pairs of silk gloves by now.

[The traditional gift given by the man to soften the 'blow' of rejection.]
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Randi on 29 February 2016, 10:28:57
 ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: AvastMH on 29 February 2016, 14:45:24
You must have quite a few pairs of silk gloves by now.

[The traditional gift given by the man to soften the 'blow' of rejection.]

Really? I didn't know that, and I don't have any silk gloves. He's in trouble now.... >:( ;D ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: studentforever on 29 February 2016, 16:31:31
One book I read reckoned it was a silk dress but another said that was for aristocrats only and most young ladies only got gloves. I suspect it was a bit of an urban (or even rural) myth but it's worth a try since it sounds as if you and your friend have a good relationship - you could wine & dine him before he ceremonially turns you down if it makes you feel better. Tell me - do you go down on one knee, present him with roses or just go in for the laconic 'How about it then'.
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: AvastMH on 29 February 2016, 16:38:18
I can't stop laughing!
Hmmmm - firstly he's in Aberdeen and I'm in Oxford. Secondly I can't get onto one knee. Thirdly he'd see the roses as eminently good for his compost heap. Who said that romance was dead - they were right  ;D ;D ;D
Roll on 2020 (gives me 4 years to get my knees working)  ;) ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Caro on 01 March 2016, 02:49:12
Happy first day of meteorological spring/autumn and St David's Day to all.
Where did the first two months of this year go?!

(https://openclipart.org/image/2400px/svg_to_png/37963/daffodil-jonathan-dietri-01.png)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Tegwen on 01 March 2016, 06:27:14
Did anyone hear the BBC radio 4 programme pm yesterday?

Val Singleton proposed to Eddie Mair, live on air. http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p03l2lvv. Great Radio.

Up until this year no one had proposed to me on leap day either!!!!
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Randi on 01 March 2016, 06:43:57
Up until or until and including ?
 ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Tegwen on 01 March 2016, 06:46:13
Until!!!
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Bob on 01 March 2016, 07:07:43
St. David's Day? Had to look that one up, learned something new!  :P

Happy first day of meteorological spring/autumn and St David's Day to all.
Where did the first two months of this year go?!

(https://openclipart.org/image/2400px/svg_to_png/37963/daffodil-jonathan-dietri-01.png)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Caro on 01 March 2016, 07:10:46
Up until this year no one had proposed to me on leap day either!!!!

And your answer was ... ?
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Randi on 01 March 2016, 07:31:56
Until!!!

Congratulations!
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Tegwen on 01 March 2016, 07:55:15
Up until this year no one had proposed to me on leap day either!!!!

And your answer was ... ?

Watch this space!!!
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: AvastMH on 01 March 2016, 09:55:13
Up until this year no one had proposed to me on leap day either!!!!

And your answer was ... ?

Watch this space!!!

I'm watching - both eyes - no blinking - honestly!!  :D
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: AvastMH on 01 March 2016, 09:57:04
Happy St Dewi's Day all of you living to the left of the Marches!  :D

(http://i.imgur.com/GyiHoae.png)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: AvastMH on 02 March 2016, 09:36:32
OK the time has come for me to think about getting a laptop. I could do with getting my desktop cleaned up and sorted. I don't do anything intense like gaming. A machine that will take a mouse would be good. It doesn't even need much more than a few programs like Word, Excel, Powerpoint, Adobe, Irfanview, Autohotkey. If any of you experienced laptop owners have any thoughts about suitable machines/ sizes of machine please could you pm me? I've managed to mostly survive without them - but the day may be coming etc. I won't hold anybody to account for any suggestions - I just need to get some idea of the playing field really. And it can't be big budget either. Thank you!  :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Hanibal94 on 02 March 2016, 10:18:31
If you're not gonna do anything intense, you don't need to be too picky. All but the smallest, cheapest machines should work.
For using a mouse, you will need a USB port - these are usually on the sides. I would recommend making sure it has at least two so you can connect a USB stick or something if you need to.
You might want to make sure it has a CD drive so you can use CDs and DVDs. Some laptops don't have them.
Also, take a look at which brand is currently the best - search for comparisons like this one. http://www.laptopmag.com/articles/laptop-brand-ratings
But do pay attention to details - Apple laptops are very expensive, and I don't think you can use Windows on them.

As for the programs - Word, Excel, Powerpoint and Adobe might be pre-installed, but you will most likely have to install the rest yourself. Still, I'm guessing you managed it with the desktop, so it shouldn't be a problem.
Oh, and personally I would use OpenOffice Writer, Calc and Impress instead of Microsoft Word, Excel and Powerpoint. OpenOffice is free and doesn't change everything every few years.
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Randi on 02 March 2016, 11:13:12
Ice rafts traveling farther and faster across the Arctic Ocean
Contamination risks rise as ice-trapped pollutants go along for the ride (https://www.sciencenews.org/article/ice-rafts-traveling-farther-and-faster-across-arctic-ocean)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: AvastMH on 02 March 2016, 12:15:03
If you're not gonna do anything intense, you don't need to be too picky. etc
Thanks Hanibal - I copied your message over to my personal messages. I'll reply from there. But very interesting points you made. Thanks again.  :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: leelaht on 02 March 2016, 13:41:36
OK the time has come for me to think about getting a laptop. I could do with getting my desktop cleaned up and sorted. I don't do anything intense like gaming. A machine that will take a mouse would be good. It doesn't even need much more than a few programs like Word, Excel, Powerpoint, Adobe, Irfanview, Autohotkey. If any of you experienced laptop owners have any thoughts about suitable machines/ sizes of machine please could you pm me? I've managed to mostly survive without them - but the day may be coming etc. I won't hold anybody to account for any suggestions - I just need to get some idea of the playing field really. And it can't be big budget either. Thank you!  :)

I just replaced my laptop a few months ago.  The feel of the keys was important to me.  I loved my Toshiba, but they changed the keyboard and I didn't like it.  I like knowing when a key is hit, and it seems a lot of the laptop keyboards are now very subtle in that regard vs desktop keyboards.
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: AvastMH on 02 March 2016, 16:31:19
Oh - hmmm - hadn't thought about that leelaht - good point. My work keyboard is a thumping great noisy thing..and I'm not the lightest on my fingers. Sounds like a concrete pile driver. So something lighter than that would help, but it doesn't have to be whisper quiet.
It's funny how, when I've borrowed a machine I'm just happy to have access to it. Once you start getting into owning one your atennae are up looking for all sorts of refined bits and bobs  :D
Thanks!  :D
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Hanibal94 on 02 March 2016, 16:46:23
Laptop keyboards are generally more quiet, but it depends on the exact design and on how hard you type.
I tend to strike the keys with quite a bit of force, especially when transcribing. But it's no concrete pile driver.  ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Dean on 02 March 2016, 16:49:02
I'll agree that Apples are more expensive but are much more 'user friendly!' Used them for 35 years. They should come with 'Pages, Numbers, & Keynote' which are the Word, Excel, & PowerPoint in the PCWorld. I have used Open Office for quite a bit as it allows me to open & send stuff from PC folks. Good and FREE!

My wife has an old Dell and we've been happy with it for the limited work she does with it.
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: AvastMH on 02 March 2016, 16:58:21
Oh Boy! So many things to think about  :D thanks everyone. Memo to self - your keyboard could probably do with not being treated like a pile driver (especially when it's stuck firmly to the screen bit  ;) :D)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: studentforever on 02 March 2016, 17:25:34
Where do you want to use your laptop. That will help you decide on the size of screen and WEIGHT. Most important if you want to carry it round (especially if you are still using a crutch). Think about battery life - in general the batteries weigh significantly, so do CD drives, will an external one do. I bought my present notebook when I had muscle problems and weight was a major factor - it is horrible for the present OW interface, it might be better with a separate mouse rather than the touchpad though. Are you going to use it on your knee or a desk or table. Try sitting with it on your knee if this is going to be a frequent situation because some of the bigger ones could be a bit restrictive on the chairs you can use. Have fun with it.
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Tegwen on 03 March 2016, 12:51:37
My old HP laptop was cheap, had a lousy keyboard that I hated and a fairly poor screen, so when home I used to fit an external keyboard, and an external monitor. Use away from home was OK, but a bit of a pain.

I recently upgraded to a new high spec HP and it is totally different. I never attach the screen and keyboard and am typing this on the laptop keyboard and looking at the laptop screen, which are so much better. However, I dont like touchpads, so use a wireless mouse at home.

Also as said above battery life and weight, both of which tend to be linked to screen size, but not exactly are important. I use an external CD drive again to keep weight

The key message I think is to decide what you want it for, and try several different ones in different positions etc. You can always make up for bits you dont like, but they add to the cost.
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: AvastMH on 03 March 2016, 15:10:31
Ah you see - people say 'laptop' so casually - then there are all these factors :D

Weight - not a problem - it'll be used in the living room on the table (opposite the sewing machine  ::)) so that anyone staying over can get to bed in the spare room whilst I sail the Arctic seas. So battery life also not a problem since I can keep it plugged in for most of the time. Certainly not good with those mouse pads thus needing a usb for a mouse. hanibal also mentioned a CD player which I might use once in a blue moon - but once you have one you then perhaps find more uses. That might end up on the toss of a coin.  A largish screen would be good (another reason for not having to worry too much about weight) but after that I can probably cope with most things in truth. I'll report back on the outcome :D

It's amazing that I used to look after 3 machines at work - just loaning them out. Scarcely ever used one though other than a nine year old tank which at least managed to do skype :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: jil on 04 March 2016, 03:55:01
Snowing here this morning! I don't think it's going to stick as it was raining a lot over night but looks very pretty at the moment. (It's a lot easier to appreciate the beauty when you don't need to drive anywhere!)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Caro on 04 March 2016, 04:38:19
Brilliant sunshine here, I'm glad to say.  :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: jil on 04 March 2016, 07:06:08
Gone back to rain now and snow melting  :(
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Randi on 04 March 2016, 08:12:19
Halley VI: Dropping in on the British Antarctic Survey (http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-35717932)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: studentforever on 04 March 2016, 10:04:50
Wonderful trip, I don't fancy over-wintering though.
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: AvastMH on 04 March 2016, 15:51:19
Halley VI: Dropping in on the British Antarctic Survey (http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-35717932)

Thanks Randi  :D  I'll pop this on PW  :D
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Michael on 09 March 2016, 13:58:48
Moonrise, Moounset, Moonrise, Moonset...

Every so often Concord and Yorktown report time for the the moon rising and setting. I have a calculator we used in the weather service that works for any location on the planet, but it goes back only to 1902. I found a calculator online that works for any time and any location. Yorktown reported moonrise at 3:55 A.M. on Friday, December 1, 1899. Her position at 8 A.M. was 6o9'30"N, 120o17'30"E. Here (http://aa.usno.navy.mil/rstt/onedaytable?ID=AA&year=1899&month=12&day=1&place=&lon_sign=1&lon_deg=120&lon_min=17&lat_sign=1&lat_deg=6&lat_min=9&tz=8&tz_sign=1) are the results from the US Navy calculator (http://aa.usno.navy.mil/data/docs/RS_OneDay.php). They calculate the time as 4:01 A.M. I wasn't keen enough to use their courses and speeds to figure out the exact position of the ship at 4 A.M., but it is nice to see that the times are so close. They even give a picture of what the moon would have looked like!  :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: AvastMH on 09 March 2016, 14:07:47
Didn't know that those lists exist! I am wiser now! It's very interesting - though a little mind bending  :D
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Caro on 09 March 2016, 15:21:45
I now know that a full moon rose about three hours after I was born.  :o
The things you can find out these days. Thanks Michael.
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Michael on 09 March 2016, 15:43:34
I now know that a full moon rose about three hours after I was born.  :o
The things you can find out these days. Thanks Michael.

Good thing your parents weren't fans of Frank Zappa enough to call you Moon Unit!  ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: AvastMH on 09 March 2016, 15:59:45
Never thought to try it out for my DOB - turns out that if you could have seen the moon past the billowing snow storm outside our house, you'd have seen: Waxing Gibbous Moon with 73%
That's fun! :D
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Hanibal94 on 09 March 2016, 16:05:49
Here's what I got for mine:

Quote
Phase of the Moon on June 13, 1994: Waxing Crescent with 18% of the Moon's visible disk illuminated.
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Caro on 09 March 2016, 16:25:21
Good thing your parents weren't fans of Frank Zappa enough to call you Moon Unit!  ;D

I think it's safe to say that my parents had never heard of Frank Zappa!  ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 10 March 2016, 23:27:46
I now know that a full moon rose about three hours after I was born.  :o
The things you can find out these days. Thanks Michael.

I seem to have been born at the beginning of Civil Twilight (a little ray of sunshine came into mums life), with only 3% moon. (Maybe that's why I am so dim.)  %^) or maybe it should be %^(
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: AvastMH on 11 March 2016, 14:14:23
 ;D ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Dean on 13 March 2016, 11:11:41
A waning crescent  at 36%. Moonrise was 2347 the previous day! (No WONDER I'm so far behind!!!)   ::)

I beat the sunset by 2 hours (that's why my parents called me sonny??!!)    8)

Oh well!! Happy day everyone!!   ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: AvastMH on 14 March 2016, 12:13:03
If anyone gets and odd email apparently from me please delete it but let me  know. Looks like, yet again, BT have blown it with security  >:(
Thank you  :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Craig on 14 March 2016, 12:27:48
You mean "odd" compared to OW standards I presume, Joan  ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Randi on 14 March 2016, 12:30:21
 ;D ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Michael on 14 March 2016, 12:58:32
I got one this morning, but I deleted it.
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: AvastMH on 14 March 2016, 14:22:24
You mean "odd" compared to OW standards I presume, Joan  ;D

Of course! ;D ;D ;D


I got one this morning, but I deleted it.

THANKS! Does everyone else get hassle like this I wonder?  ::) :-\
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Thursday Next on 14 March 2016, 14:44:51

THANKS! Does everyone else get hassle like this I wonder?  ::) :-\

It's happened to me in the past, but not since I created a unique (and stronger) password on my email account.
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Hanibal94 on 14 March 2016, 14:48:21
THANKS! Does everyone else get hassle like this I wonder?  ::) :-\

The closest I got was when Google sent me an alert saying somebody had tried and failed to access my account from Chile.
So I immediately set a new password.
That's the only security problem I've had in over 8 years of using Google Mail.
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Michael on 14 March 2016, 15:01:12
What we're doing this for! (http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article44427.htm)   :o
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: AvastMH on 14 March 2016, 15:59:30
THANKS! Does everyone else get hassle like this I wonder?  ::) :-\

The closest I got was when Google sent me an alert saying somebody had tried and failed to access my account from Chile.
So I immediately set a new password.
That's the only security problem I've had in over 8 years of using Google Mail.
Thanks hanibal - point taken and action about to be taken!  :D
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: AvastMH on 14 March 2016, 16:00:52
What we're doing this for! (http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article44427.htm)   :o

 :'( :'( :'( Poor old planet 
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Hanibal94 on 15 March 2016, 10:15:34
What we're doing this for! (http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article44427.htm)   :o

... Is there any hope left?  :'(
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Michael on 15 March 2016, 13:59:32
What we're doing this for! (http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article44427.htm)   :o

... Is there any hope left?  :'(

My sister has a quote on her fridge

Quote
Where there is tea, there is hope!

Let that be your guide, young Hanibal.  ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Hanibal94 on 15 March 2016, 14:27:38
But I don't like tea! It's too hot!
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: AvastMH on 15 March 2016, 15:21:42
 ;D My mother's tea was something you could tarmac a motorway with. 'I know you don't like it too strong' she would say, and I'd gaze into a cup of something that defied normal physics - you could stand the spoon up in it and I swear it was always well over 100C. When it finally cooled to drinkable temperature she'd whip it away exclaiming 'That'll be cold by now, I'll make you a fresh one'. Life in deepest Yorkshire  ;) ;) ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Craig on 15 March 2016, 15:29:09
That's the same as my mother-in-law's. She would put four tea bags into a small pot. It was industrial strength. This is not the kind of tea that gave me any hope  ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Caro on 15 March 2016, 15:38:04
Yep, same here. My fondest hope as a child was that I could go home before my dear granny offered to make me a cup of tea. :P ;D
Her tea was ghastly.
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Randi on 15 March 2016, 15:45:17
Milk and sugar, please ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Michael on 15 March 2016, 15:56:31
Milk and sugar, please ;)

As you wish.

I had the same experience, my mother having been born in Lancashire but grew up in County Durham. However, when I grew up and moved away I learned to make tea that would satisfy even the most discriminating of palates.

Indeed, I am late for my early afternoon tea even as I type this so of I go to brew a pleasant cup of hope.  :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Hanibal94 on 15 March 2016, 16:07:00
How about coffee?

Quote from: NY Daily News
(http://assets.nydailynews.com/polopoly_fs/1.1394865.1373473338!/img/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/article_970/death-coffee.jpg)

A coffee enthusiast from New York is claiming to have invented the strongest coffee in the world, which contains 200% more caffeine than a typical coffee and comes with a health warning.

Mike Brown, 31, from New York, has named his highly caffeinated dark roast drink, Death Wish Coffee which comes with a warning not to drink more than two cups a day and a money back guarantee if it isn't the strongest coffee you have tasted.

Mike came up with the idea after owning and running a coffee company for the 6 years, in New York. However, one problem he frequently encountered was customers craving a strong coffee.

Mike said: "All of the premium dark roast coffee on the market was not as caffeinated as the lighter roasts. Customers would come in and say, "Give me a cup of your strongest coffee." and I would reply, "We serve nothing but the best coffee here, but our strongest tasting coffee is not our most caffeinated coffee". A puzzled look would usually follow."

He said: "I made it my mission to find a coffee that is dark, rich and flavorful but also has high caffeine content. All while being grown organically fairly traded, and shade grown.

Death Wish Coffee, which is also bird friendly and kosher, can be bought online for 13 pounds for a 1lb bag. It has more than 20,000 likes on Facebook and has caused quite a stir, where punters have left comments raving about it and one even called it the "best coffee on the planet."

(http://assets.nydailynews.com/polopoly_fs/1.1394864.1373473334!/img/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/article_970/death-coffee.jpg)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: AvastMH on 15 March 2016, 16:19:24
Coffee - I'm not sure that's been invented in Yorkshire yet  ;) ;) ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: studentforever on 15 March 2016, 17:06:43
I thought coffee came in bottles  :o - still reckon it makes the best coffee cakes though!  :D :D
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Helen J on 16 March 2016, 10:03:49
Milk and sugar, please ;)

As you wish.

I had the same experience, my mother having been born in Lancashire but grew up in County Durham. However, when I grew up and moved away I learned to make tea that would satisfy even the most discriminating of palates.

Indeed, I am late for my early afternoon tea even as I type this so of I go to brew a pleasant cup of hope.  :)

My mum also grew up in County Durham (and now drinks very weak China tea, possibly in reaction to her early years).  From her I learnt the marvellous phrase 'tea strong enough to trot a mouse on' ....  It's a glorious picture - I always see the mouse doing a kind of dance.
PS I don't drink tea at all - give me coffee every time!
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Hanibal94 on 16 March 2016, 14:35:25
Here's something our American members might be interested in:

http://www.goodnewsnetwork.org/free-tax-services-available-online-2016/
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Dean on 16 March 2016, 15:23:25
I'm sure it's likely a good thing but with Cyber Security what it is and all the reported data breeches the LAST thing I'd ever put online is my Social ID number and all my tax information.   :P
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: AvastMH on 16 March 2016, 16:41:25
 :-\ Sounds like sound advice Dean.

When I have new researchers working for us and here from the US for the first time in the UK they always look ecstatic that PAYE means 'no tax return' if our salary is the only money you've earned.  :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: HatterJack on 16 March 2016, 21:17:02
As an American, I'm honestly pretty surprised that we haven't adopted the PAYE model here. It would make things so much more efficient.
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Craig on 20 March 2016, 08:49:38
You will be happy to learn that it's International Happiness Day today  :)  ;D :)

What could make one happier than transcribing Old Weather, I ask you?

Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Randi on 20 March 2016, 08:58:13
 ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: AvastMH on 20 March 2016, 10:32:50
 ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: jil on 21 March 2016, 08:28:27
The Natural Environment Research Council rather foolishly asked the public to suggest names for it's new polar research vessel. Currently leading the poll is Boaty McBoatface.   ;D

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-35861444
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Randi on 21 March 2016, 08:42:52
Hopefully that will encourage some more suggestions ::)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Bob on 21 March 2016, 09:03:26
Some things should not be crowd sourced.  ???
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Hanibal94 on 21 March 2016, 09:17:52
Some things should not be crowd sourced.  ???

Nope... unless you want a whale named Mister Splashy Pants (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mister_Splashy_Pants)!
It's pretty hilarious to see what happens when corporations forget that the Internet is populated by people who use the Internet.  ;)



Here's something more serious: If you have an older Kindle, you will need to update it today!
http://mashable.com/2016/03/21/kindle-update-internet/#lxgVYdBT0aqa
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Bob on 21 March 2016, 09:28:16
 ;D

Well put!

It's pretty hilarious to see what happens when corporations forget that the Internet is populated by people who use the Internet.  ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: AvastMH on 21 March 2016, 10:07:36
Some things should not be crowd sourced.  ???
Well put Bob - it was a dumb move to put it out on the net. For myself I'd be happy if it was called the David Attenborough. If you wanted something quirky how about 'Switch your electricity usage down now'?  :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Hanibal94 on 21 March 2016, 12:46:53
Here are some more hilarious examples of online polls gone wrong:
http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-35860830
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: AvastMH on 21 March 2016, 13:04:12
When I went to give a talk about OW at Sheffield Univ last year I stayed to be part of the plenary session at the end of the day. I picked up the interesting information that Tesco have uncovered that people's shopping habits can be a forewarning of, for example, dementia. Now that surprised me. It also worried me that, because we sometimes get wound up by supermarkets, we take our vengeance on their 'big brother' all seeing eye (supplied amply with information from your shopping habits) by only putting part of our shopping through against our store cards in order to up-end their nosiness. I particularly like putting only organic fair trade stuff through  ;) ). So I guess in many ways the populace manages to retain some strength against what appear to be the unassailable forces of data collection. But not without some 'costs' that we could be less happy to pay. ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Michael on 21 March 2016, 14:07:32
Here are some more hilarious examples of online polls gone wrong:
http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-35860830

When B.C. Ferries wanted new names for their three new ferries, these were some of the better entries. (The historical names were Queen of XXX, Spirit of XXX, Coastal XXX, MV XXX depending on the class.)

Some of the better names proposed:

    HMS Overdraft
    The Queen of I should of been a bridge
    The Coastal Calamity
    The Spirit of Bad WiFi
    HMS Cantafford
    MV Sailing Wait

My personal favourite:
    Queen of the Damned
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: JamesAPrattIII on 22 March 2016, 18:39:42
Some WW I fun the WW I Dawn Patrol Rendezvous 2016 is going to be at the USAF Museum at Dayton Ohio on 1-2 Oct 2016. Lots of Replica WW I aircraft, R?C WW I aircraft, reenactors, period vehicles, lecturers and the USAF museum is nearby. see nationalmuseum.af.mil or dawnpatrolrendezvous.
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: leelaht on 22 March 2016, 20:46:04
Some WW I fun the WW I Dawn Patrol Rendezvous 2016 is going to be at the USAF Museum at Dayton Ohio on 1-2 Oct 2016. Lots of Replica WW I aircraft, R?C WW I aircraft, reenactors, period vehicles, lecturers and the USAF museum is nearby. see nationalmuseum.af.mil or dawnpatrolrendezvous.

I'm only an hour away.  Any chance of a deHavilland airplane?  I looked for a list of aircraft but didn't see one.
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Randi on 24 March 2016, 06:52:15
USS Conestoga wreckage found off California after 95 years (http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-35887893)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: AvastMH on 24 March 2016, 15:14:41
Great find - but she looks like she could do with a bit of a brush up - poor old thing  :) ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Randi on 24 March 2016, 15:55:08
Microsoft chatbot is taught to swear on Twitter (http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-35890188)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: AvastMH on 24 March 2016, 17:19:03
Well that takes the biscuit...a swearing artificial intelligence. Straight to the 'naughty step' i.e. pull the plug on it   :o
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Hanibal94 on 25 March 2016, 09:37:34
Microsoft chatbot is taught to swear on Twitter (http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-35890188)

Chess, Jeopardy!, driving, Go, and now swearing!

How much longer until we humans become... *gulp* ... obsolete?
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Michael on 25 March 2016, 12:31:25
Microsoft chatbot is taught to swear on Twitter (http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-35890188)

Chess, Jeopardy!, driving, Go, and now swearing!

How much longer until we humans become... *gulp* ... obsolete?

When the OldWeatherBot transcribes the log pages!   ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: AvastMH on 25 March 2016, 12:56:07
 ;D ;D ;D
Don't worry - if nothing else someone has to put the 50p in the meter to make the computers run ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Randi on 26 March 2016, 02:38:50
http://www.climateprediction.net/about/

They mention us ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Hanibal94 on 26 March 2016, 04:16:24
Woohoo!  :D

(If you can't see it at first: Right side of the page, under "Other climate/weather citizen science projects:")
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Craig on 26 March 2016, 06:13:37
I was going to tell you all that yesterday was International Procrastination Day, but I didn't get around to it. I'll try harder next year  ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Helen J on 26 March 2016, 10:27:30
 :D :D :D
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: jil on 26 March 2016, 10:40:23
 ::) ;D ::)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: jil on 26 March 2016, 10:42:45
http://www.climateprediction.net/about/
They mention us ;D
8)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: AvastMH on 26 March 2016, 10:43:18
 ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: AvastMH on 27 March 2016, 08:40:33
HAPPY EASTER EVERYONE.

Easter bunnies just get bigger and bigger!  :o

(http://i.imgur.com/E37BGlK.png)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Hanibal94 on 27 March 2016, 09:23:56
Easter bunnies just get bigger and bigger!  :o

They sure do!

(https://img.buzzfeed.com/buzzfeed-static/static/2015-04/10/16/enhanced/webdr08/enhanced-10212-1428698082-1.jpg)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Helen J on 27 March 2016, 10:09:13
Are you sure there's actually a rabbit inside all that fur?  Frankly, it could be anything ....   :D :D
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Bob on 27 March 2016, 10:19:59
It's really just a big tribble.  ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: jil on 27 March 2016, 11:28:47
It's really just a big tribble.  ;)
;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Randi on 27 March 2016, 12:03:41
 ;D ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Randi on 27 March 2016, 12:23:43
Giant panda enjoys bubble bath in Washington (http://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-35903154)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Hanibal94 on 27 March 2016, 13:59:12
Excited T-Rex Dances Through Number From A Chorus Line (http://www.goodnewsnetwork.org/hilarious-t-rex-dances-number-chorus-line-watch/)

I wanna see an entire musical of this!
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: AvastMH on 27 March 2016, 14:06:58
Giant panda enjoys bubble bath in Washington (http://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-35903154)
I hope they catch him building sandcastles on the beach for his summer video  ;) ;) ;D


Excited T-Rex Dances Through Number From A Chorus Line (http://www.goodnewsnetwork.org/hilarious-t-rex-dances-number-chorus-line-watch/)

I wanna see an entire musical of this!

So do I - but I have to say - THAT should be an Olympic sport - it sure looks hard enough  ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Thursday Next on 28 March 2016, 16:03:22
Well, I have taken the plunge and done the upgrade to Windows 10 - it has almost gone OK!  Thanks, Hanibal, for all your very helpful guidance.

But if anyone knows how to get the Mail App working, I'd be grateful for some advice!  I am on a perpetual loop where it says "First let's add your accounts".  I have set this up exactly as instructed by Virgin Media, but it always goes back to "First let's add your accounts".  If I try to add the account again, it just says that account is already on the system - and goes back to "First, let's add your accounts" and the "Sign In" button persistently stays greyed out.  I've looked online - loads of people having problems with Windows 10 Mail, but not exactly the same problem!  There does seem to be an issue with Virgin Media Email according to their service status, but I was able to get into my account on 8.1!   >:(  Just hoping everything will work when they get this problem fixed.
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Randi on 28 March 2016, 17:05:24
Arctic passageways let species mingle (https://www.sciencenews.org/article/arctic-passageways-let-species-mingle)
Several mentions of whales too!
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Hanibal94 on 29 March 2016, 08:54:17
Well, I have taken the plunge and done the upgrade to Windows 10 - it has almost gone OK!  Thanks, Hanibal, for all your very helpful guidance.

You're welcome!

But if anyone knows how to get the Mail App working, I'd be grateful for some advice! ...

Sorry, but I can't help there because I don't use the Mail App or Virgin Media Email.
Did you follow the instructions from this page (http://help.virginmedia.com/system/selfservice.controller?CMD=VIEW_ARTICLE&ARTICLE_ID=171333&CURRENT_CMD=SEARCH&CONFIGURATION=1001&PARTITION_ID=1&USERTYPE=1&LANGUAGE=en&COUNTY=us&VM_CUSTOMER_TYPE=Cable)? It does say that the settings are different depending on which type of Virgin Media account you have (check what your email address ends with).
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Thursday Next on 29 March 2016, 13:02:21
I have solved my problem with the Mail App!  Turns out that because I was so paranoid about the privacy settings I had effectively stopped the Mail App from accessing anything whatever, including webmail!  :-[  ::)  ;D


Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: studentforever on 29 March 2016, 13:57:58
Computers have this habit of doing what they are told without warning you of the consequences! Sometimes an above average human will think to 'error trap' the situation and send out a warning but with a new system there are often problems like yours. How long before our benevolent bureaucrats decide that technophobes are classified as having criminal propensities and should be protectively supervised for their own and bureaucratic (especially) benefit.
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Hanibal94 on 29 March 2016, 14:24:53
Glad to hear you managed to fix the problem, Su!  :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Caro on 31 March 2016, 11:57:57
Lovely stuff: http://andywoodruff.com/blog/beyond-the-sea/  :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Bob on 31 March 2016, 12:28:16
Fascinating! Thanks for posting.  8)

Lovely stuff: http://andywoodruff.com/blog/beyond-the-sea/  :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: AvastMH on 31 March 2016, 16:09:16
Lovely stuff: http://andywoodruff.com/blog/beyond-the-sea/  :)

Cool!  8) :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Randi on 01 April 2016, 03:59:59
Interesting!
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: elizabeth on 02 April 2016, 07:11:14
Lovely stuff: http://andywoodruff.com/blog/beyond-the-sea/  :)
This is very interesting thanks for posting it :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Hanibal94 on 02 April 2016, 07:37:19
Really interesting - I never thought about that. Thanks for posting!
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 02 April 2016, 16:59:34
Don't worry Hanibal I cannot see you from anywhere in Australia.   ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Craig on 02 April 2016, 22:06:26
You could use Skype   :D
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Bob on 02 April 2016, 22:44:29
For those of you who speak METAR:

KIAD 030233Z 30029G51KT 3SM -RA BKN028 BKN050 OVC090 06/03 A2953 RMK AO2 PK WND 31057/0223

It's a bit breezy in these parts tonight.  ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Kathy on 02 April 2016, 23:17:23
Yes it is!
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 02 April 2016, 23:36:09
For those who don't

It's getting better by Tuesday
(http://imgur.com/DjE2jid.png)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Michael on 03 April 2016, 10:15:03
For those of you who speak METAR:

KIAD 030233Z 30029G51KT 3SM -RA BKN028 BKN050 OVC090 06/03 A2953 RMK AO2 PK WND 31057/0223

It's a bit breezy in these parts tonight.  ;)

Life would have been so much easier if the US Navy reported in METAR and used typewriters back in the day.  ;D

724030 KIAD    WASHINGTON/DULLES                     VA US 3857N  7727W  098

We would have known what, where and when with just one easily decodeable line.   :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Bob on 03 April 2016, 10:49:16
 ;D

Wouldn't be anything for us transcribers to do, except copy all of the crew's transgressions from the comments.  ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Michael on 03 April 2016, 13:31:57
;D

Wouldn't be anything for us transcribers to do, except copy all of the crew's transgressions from the comments.  ;)

Or spend more quality time in front of the TV!  ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Randi on 03 April 2016, 14:25:19
I spent some quality time in front of the TV the other day.
Of course, the TV was turned off.
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: AvastMH on 03 April 2016, 14:26:47
 ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Randi on 03 April 2016, 15:13:59
Panama Papers: Mossack Fonseca leak reveals elite's tax havens (http://www.bbc.com/news/world-35918844)
Tsk tsk...
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: AvastMH on 03 April 2016, 15:21:35
 :o  Shockers!
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Michael on 03 April 2016, 20:05:44
I spent some quality time in front of the TV the other day.
Of course, the TV was turned off.

 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Mind you, when I lived just outside the German village Hugelsheim, which was very close to the River Rhine and so the French border, I did enjoy the occasional show on TF1. I caught the broadcast from Strasbourg, a town that I loved.
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Caro on 05 April 2016, 10:06:27
Hiya szukacz! Nice to see you visiting us.  :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: szukacz on 05 April 2016, 10:08:57
Best wishes for the entire crew.  ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Randi on 05 April 2016, 10:35:47
Hi   szukacz!
Long time, no see!
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Dean on 05 April 2016, 12:39:55
Hi   szukacz!
Long time, no see!


 ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: AvastMH on 05 April 2016, 13:44:39
Hi   szukacz!
Long time, no see!


 ;D ;D ;D

Same from me to!  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 05 April 2016, 16:59:38
Noticed this on my friends facebook page.
Some background.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-10-08/canberra-geologist-heads-to-antarctica-for-fourth-time/6838196 (http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-10-08/canberra-geologist-heads-to-antarctica-for-fourth-time/6838196)
and some thing he found.
http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v531/n7596/full/nature17145.html (http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v531/n7596/full/nature17145.html)


and also welcome szukacz.
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: AvastMH on 05 April 2016, 17:15:28
Thought provoking article Stuart - very interesting :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Craig on 05 April 2016, 19:02:40
I find it amazing how many different ways there are to measure natural processes. Good thing we have isotopes - and people willing to date exposed boulders.
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: jil on 06 April 2016, 04:44:12
Mostly for Joan  ;) - Humboldt penguin chicks at Chester Zoo (http://www.chesterzoo.org/attractions-and-exhibits/zoo-news/penguin-chicks-2016)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Randi on 06 April 2016, 07:11:27
Viewpoint: The rejected vegetables that aren?t even wonky (http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-34647454)
 :'(
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: AvastMH on 06 April 2016, 15:25:58
Mostly for Joan  ;) - Humboldt penguin chicks at Chester Zoo (http://www.chesterzoo.org/attractions-and-exhibits/zoo-news/penguin-chicks-2016)

Thanks ever so much jil :D  I'll pop that onto PW right now :) Sweet little things. Our lot only do one or two eggs, 4 is impressive! We don't see Humboldt Penguins on PW, I guess they are just too far north for our study.  :)
Thanks again!
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Thursday Next on 06 April 2016, 15:30:10
They were very cute - where can I get one?
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: AvastMH on 06 April 2016, 16:07:20
 ;D ;D ;D
Sounds like you track El Nino backwards heading South - then find some krill just off shore, then hope. Happy hunting!  ;) ;D
(they really are too sweet  :D :-*)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: AvastMH on 06 April 2016, 16:19:41
Viewpoint: The rejected vegetables that aren?t even wonky (http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-34647454)
 :'(

 >:( >:( >:( >:( THIS IS SHOCKING, my poor Big Issue seller scrimps to get perhaps 10GBP each Saturday and can barely afford food for her three children (I bought their Easter eggs for them as a treat on top of my usual overpayment for the magazine). If she could access that waste food her life would be easier, the lives of those producing the food would be easier. If we tinned it and sent it to Africa it would do good. I don't know how much longer people like supermarket bosses can get away with their disgraceful position of hiding behind the attitudes that they accuse us of imposing upon them, by not being prepared to eat wonky or marked vegetables. If I could get those producers to dump those veg outside the supermarket door and block the entrance I'd turn up to enjoy the sight.
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Dean on 06 April 2016, 16:22:07
Mostly for Joan  ;) - Humboldt penguin chicks at Chester Zoo (http://www.chesterzoo.org/attractions-and-exhibits/zoo-news/penguin-chicks-2016)

Thanks ever so much jil :D  I'll pop that onto PW right now :) Sweet little things. Our lot only do one or two eggs, 4 is impressive! We don't see Humboldt Penguins on PW, I guess they are just too far north for our study.  :)
Thanks again!

LIVE PENGUIN CAM!!!!!!!!!  ;D ;D

http://www.discovery.com/tv-shows/frozen-planet/games-and-more/penguin-cam/
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: AvastMH on 06 April 2016, 17:18:19
Can't access it so not sure about the level of parental control that might be needed - I'll drop it by our US moderator in a few days when she's free to check it. However - I had a go at Criminal Penguins - it's SO Funny!  ;D ;D ;D
http://www.discovery.com/tv-shows/penguins-waddle-all-the-way/penguin-game/penguin-game/?_ga=1.99447262.1956463963.1459976362
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 06 April 2016, 17:43:55
 ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Randi on 06 April 2016, 18:30:59
Can't access it so not sure about the level of parental control that might be needed
Can't access what?
http://www.discovery.com/tv-shows/frozen-planet/games-and-more/penguin-cam/ works for me.
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: AvastMH on 06 April 2016, 18:34:18
Oh!  :'( :'(
I'll have to try again then... back in a mo...
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: AvastMH on 06 April 2016, 18:36:55
Nope - just got a notice saying 'This content is not available in your area due to rights restrictions'
Clearly I'm not 'right' enough  ;) :(
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Caro on 07 April 2016, 06:47:32
It's probably a UK restriction. I get the same message.

Meanwhile; here's an amazing picture of the UK, Ireland and a corner of France + aurora taken by astronaut Tim Peake.  :)

(https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xap1/t31.0-8/12970936_1134429629930155_5176827186635934402_o.jpg)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: AvastMH on 07 April 2016, 11:41:06
That is a special photo - just astonishing  :D
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: AvastMH on 07 April 2016, 11:43:24
Embarrassingly is was not me that found this:

Penguin Watch: Public asked to aid Antarctic research
http://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-35981212

Thanks Randi!!  So around about 6.30 pm UK time I'm expecting a small 'penguin explosion'...  ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Thursday Next on 07 April 2016, 14:15:01
It was on the 6pm news on Radio 4 as well - right now Penguin Watch seems to be a bigger news story than the EU referendum!
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 07 April 2016, 16:21:14
It's probably a UK restriction. I get the same message.

Meanwhile; here's an amazing picture of the UK, Ireland and a corner of France + aurora taken by astronaut Tim Peake.  :)

(https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xap1/t31.0-8/12970936_1134429629930155_5176827186635934402_o.jpg)

Bring Bring, Bring Bring, Hello.

Mum turn the light off.

 ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: AvastMH on 07 April 2016, 16:48:35
It's probably a UK restriction. I get the same message.

Meanwhile; here's an amazing picture of the UK, Ireland and a corner of France + aurora taken by astronaut Tim Peake.  :)

(https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xap1/t31.0-8/12970936_1134429629930155_5176827186635934402_o.jpg)

Bring Bring, Bring Bring, Hello.

Mum turn the light off.

 ;D

 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D One of your best Stuart!! Memorable!
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: AvastMH on 07 April 2016, 16:52:22
It was on the 6pm news on Radio 4 as well - right now Penguin Watch seems to be a bigger news story than the EU referendum!

Yep! And didn't it pay off - we got the same work we'd manage in 10 days done in 2 hours. Phew!!  I just put out one post to remind the little darlings that it's bedtime!  ;D

Of course it's much easier to decide if it's a penguin that needs marking as against whether to stay in or get out of Europe...so we are lucky in that respect  ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Randi on 07 April 2016, 17:51:04
Good one, Stuart!!
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Thursday Next on 08 April 2016, 14:39:50
It was on the 6pm news on Radio 4 as well - right now Penguin Watch seems to be a bigger news story than the EU referendum!

Yep! And didn't it pay off - we got the same work we'd manage in 10 days done in 2 hours. Phew!!  I just put out one post to remind the little darlings that it's bedtime!  ;D

Of course it's much easier to decide if it's a penguin that needs marking as against whether to stay in or get out of Europe...so we are lucky in that respect  ;D

That's a fantastic result - let's hope lots of them stay with the project.  I am sure the quality of the "debate" on Penguin Watch is far higher than for the EU referendum.
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: AvastMH on 08 April 2016, 14:48:21
Back to serious work here - but here's the power of cuteness today ...
 - 8.30am 2916730 IMAGES CLASSIFIED Get started!  24651 VOLUNTEERS PARTICIPATING
 - 18.30pm 2948253 IMAGES CLASSIFIED Get started!  25200 VOLUNTEERS PARTICIPATING

That's 31523 images classified in ten hours. Can you imagine if we had that kind of cuteness quotient here...sigh  :-\
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Randi on 08 April 2016, 14:55:40
Don't forget that our images are far more complex ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: AvastMH on 08 April 2016, 14:57:48
That's the understatement of the year Randi  ;D  PW is a looooong way from rocket science - bless it :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 09 April 2016, 03:27:40
Unusual email heading, supposed to come from Zooniverse.org

(http://imgur.com/I6zbS2W)

<clipped from View Message Source>

Subject: AwpHiPXXCMj
To: <----------@hotmail.com>
From: "yoibdd@xjecdo.com" <team@zooniverse.org>
Reply-To: <yoibdd@xjecdo.com>
Date: Sat, 9 Apr 2016 07:01:13 +0000

Apart from delete, any other suggestions?
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Caro on 09 April 2016, 03:52:28
We'll report it. Thanks Stuart.
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Kathy on 09 April 2016, 10:49:29
I also got emails- 2 in fact -

one with this link: kjY8Hk  <a href="http://nsqbswxqazuz.com/">nsqbswxqazuz</a>, edocqjbsrkjb (http://edocqjbsrkjb.com/), [link=http://jmjthzbnywkj.com/]jmjthzbnywkj[/link], http://fsilluaynueq.com/  from zsriko@rhwwbj.com <team@zooniverse.org>

and one with this link: EL5aTl  <a href="http://escatauefjqg.com/">escatauefjqg</a>, inzjncngpxui (http://inzjncngpxui.com/), [link=http://qelkkxvcfumu.com/]qelkkxvcfumu[/link], http://yarrnvljzysz.com/ from avokhm@ylrvgg.com <team@zooniverse.org>

I hope this info helps track down the hackers -

oops - make that 3

with the 3rd being from fpxffg@jovilw.com<team@zooniverse.org>, along with what seems to me to be a gibberish filled link.
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Caro on 09 April 2016, 11:08:49
We'll send these on, too. Thanks Kathy.
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Bob on 09 April 2016, 11:48:29
The listed email addresses are likely just gibberish. The actual source is deeper in the headers.

From https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Email_spoofing (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Email_spoofing)

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Identifying the source of the email

Although email spoofing is effective in forging the email address, the IP address of the computer sending the mail can generally be identified from the "Received:" lines in the email header. In many cases this is likely to be an innocent third party infected by malware that is sending the email without the owner's knowledge.
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 09 April 2016, 16:24:22
If it is any help
Received: from a11-78.smtp-out.amazonses.com ([54.240.11.78]) Location 47?38'03.8"N 122?20'31.2"W West Lake Seattle.

This one was received last night 'From one of my mates' Think Not.
Received: from bmf-ws4-mail.bmfenterprises.com ([209.204.84.215])

I do not open them just View source.

Two more for the delete box.
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Randi on 09 April 2016, 17:55:03
US Navy rescues sailors from remote Pacific island (http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-36007545)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: AvastMH on 09 April 2016, 20:15:35
What a brilliant search - that's a lot of ocean to search :D
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: AvastMH on 09 April 2016, 20:21:19
Life's been an explosion of penguins since PW appeared on the BBC news last Thursday at 6.30pm. Work came in so fast that all three of us (very tired) moderators stayed up to see a great milestone tick over:
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

It is with immense pride that we announce that PENGUINWATCH has clocked 3 million images classified! :D
At 00.40 UT on 10th April 2016:  3000001 IMAGES CLASSIFIED by 25953 VOLUNTEERS PARTICIPATING
A huge thank you to those 25953 volunteers who have worked so hard to get to this exciting landmark in Dr Tom Hart's project.

(http://i.imgur.com/Nqkafti.png)

If you would like to see Dr Hart's short video relating how PenguinWatch came into being please use this link (https://www.youtube.com/embed/LGv8Kfie7HM)

Already Southern waters have been protected for our feathered friends. How wonderful is that as a 'thank you' to our great volunteers? It's a proud moment for Citizen Science.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

I posted it on panoptes talk too: https://www.zooniverse.org/talk/15/48142?comment=96593
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: jil on 10 April 2016, 04:19:34
 8) 8) 8)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Hanibal94 on 10 April 2016, 04:38:52
Congrats, Joan and Penguin Watch!
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Caro on 10 April 2016, 05:07:32
Great stuff. Well done penguin watchers!  :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Hanibal94 on 13 April 2016, 13:19:31
Giant Monster Hamster attacks Major City (https://www.youtube.com/embed/AQte2nz80Is)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Thursday Next on 13 April 2016, 14:30:47
Giant Monster Hamster attacks Major City (https://www.youtube.com/embed/AQte2nz80Is)

 ;D  ;D  ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: AvastMH on 13 April 2016, 17:10:03
Giant Monster Hamster attacks Major City (https://www.youtube.com/embed/AQte2nz80Is)

 ;D  ;D  ;D

 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D That's a cracker Hanibal - great find
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Bob on 13 April 2016, 17:14:30
 8) ;D Clever!
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: elizabeth on 14 April 2016, 06:34:53
8) ;D Clever!
ok I know I have not posted in awhile and I have seen here that I have missed something. Who is Bob?
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Bob on 14 April 2016, 06:52:15
Hi, elizabeth!

I was invited to join the moderator team a couple of months ago. I've been around OW and the forums for a bit over a year.

- Bob

8) ;D Clever!
ok I know I have not posted in awhile and I have seen here that I have missed something. Who is Bob?
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: elizabeth on 14 April 2016, 07:13:49
8) ;D Clever!
ok I know I have not posted in awhile and I have seen here that I have missed something. Who is Bob?
Well this is awesome thank you for the quick response.  Nice to meet you. Have fun here :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Bob on 14 April 2016, 08:10:02
Likewise, thanks!

Nice to meet you. Have fun here :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Tegwen on 15 April 2016, 10:05:12
Hi

I must apologise to those who have been avidly "watching this space" since the 29th of February. I shouldnt have dropped the hint, as nothing was agreed then and none of our family etc had been informed.

However, I am now pleased to announce that my lady friend Audrey proposed to me on the 29th of February.

I am also pleased to announce that (at last) yesterday I bought her a ring and put it on her finger.

No dates or anything yet, but we are now officially engaged.
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Randi on 15 April 2016, 10:13:36
Congratulations !
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Helen J on 15 April 2016, 10:54:06
Congratulations!  I hope you will be converting her to OW if she's not already signed up?
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Michael on 15 April 2016, 11:20:37
Yes, congratulations!!! Lucky you!!!  Hooray!!!
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Caro on 15 April 2016, 11:48:07
Congratulations, Keith and Audrey!

 :-*
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Craig on 15 April 2016, 12:26:37
I hope you won't wait until the next 29 February. Congratulations!
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Thursday Next on 15 April 2016, 14:15:26
Congratulations!
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: studentforever on 15 April 2016, 15:08:34
Congratulations!
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: jil on 15 April 2016, 16:40:24
Congratulations to you both!
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: HatterJack on 15 April 2016, 22:46:40
Congratulations!
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Dean on 15 April 2016, 22:46:47
Congratulations to you both!!!

Barbara and I celebrated 41 on February 15th.
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Randi on 16 April 2016, 03:05:11
Remains of WW1 German ships found in Portsmouth (http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-36058154)



Also (a video from last year): WW1: Gallipoli campaign ship is given new lease of life (http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-31705976)

This is "our" HMS M33:
http://www.naval-history.net/OWShips-WW1-03-HMS_M.33.htm
http://old.oldweather.org/vessels/4caf88b0cadfd3419702205f
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Maikel on 16 April 2016, 03:42:09
"Our" HMS M.33 has also been used in a showcase for Journey Plotter Mobile. :)
The animation shows part of her voyage to Russia in 1919.
https://youtu.be/zubqqjeNQ7k (https://youtu.be/zubqqjeNQ7k)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Hanibal94 on 16 April 2016, 04:08:30
Many congratulations, Keith!
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Thursday Next on 16 April 2016, 14:24:15
Remains of WW1 German ships found in Portsmouth (http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-36058154)


I don't know what anyone else thinks, but this story is really stretching my credulity!  I am struggling to believe that there were two wrecks in Portsmouth Naval Dockyard which are visible at low tide and have been there less than 100 years - and the Royal Navy did not know they were German?
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Randi on 16 April 2016, 15:01:33
I think the video exaggerates a bit - but not a lot :-\

http://www.royalnavy.mod.uk/news-and-latest-activity/news/2016/april/13/160413-german-ww1-destroyers-found-in-mud
Quote
Towed to Portsmouth, they were used as target practice - Whale Island was the home of the RN gunnery school, HMS Excellent - until finally being beached in the mud near the site of the present-day marina, awaiting breaking up, when they were painted by the leading naval artist of the day, William Wyllie - the man behind the Trafalgar panorama in the historic dockyard.

"Despite a brief mention in the Portsmouth News in 1921, the two destroyers have lain largely forgotten where they were beached - ironically in front of headquarters of today's Royal Navy," said Lt Paul Lane of HMS Scott, who?s helping the trust with the project.

"The attentions of scrap dealers as well as the ravages of time and tide have taken their toll on the vessels, leaving them largely unrecognisable to all but the trained eye."

The westerly wreck was largely ravaged by salvagers by the time of WW2; the other destroyer was much more intact until the harbour was dredged in the mid-70s as part of work on Portsmouth?s ferry port opposite Whale Island.

Still, at least two of her boilers remain and her bow and forecastle are still identifiable as they rise about 5ft above the mudflats.
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Thursday Next on 16 April 2016, 15:44:45
One of the comments from a member of the public on the Independent's report from a couple of weeks back said that it rather begs the question - what had they previously thought they were, then?

I suspect it's the case that a lot of people had a very good idea what those two wrecks were, but it was just hearsay and this project has verified their identity.  I'm still quite not sure why there's so much excitement - after all, we had the whole German fleet in Scapa Flow in 1919 (at least for a while, until we got careless!)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Maikel on 17 April 2016, 02:47:52
Asperatus clouds over New Zealand.

(http://apod.nasa.gov/apod/image/1604/asperatus_priester_1024.jpg)

Source: NASA Astronomy Picture of the Day (http://apod.nasa.gov/apod/astropix.html).
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: jil on 17 April 2016, 04:55:21
Ooooooo!
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Tegwen on 17 April 2016, 08:19:23
Thank you all for the lovely messages, very kind of you all.

I havent managed to get her transcribing yet, but she did help a little with the editing of HMS ODIN.

Congratualtions to Dean and Barbara, 41 years is very impressive.

All the best

Keith & Audrey.
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Michael on 18 April 2016, 10:40:50
OW3 has died!

When I try to get the Yorktown, I get this:

Quote
404 Not Found

    Code: NoSuchKey
    Message: The specified key does not exist.
    Key: login.zooniverse.org/login
    RequestId: E07550B21963ADB7
    HostId: 9RNAIAuPIH+4mmUSznguDX1Z4jc69fvjCYMa1c0CGZONcRc+mGt5e4yuqR0MPXZL73SGmLksQCI=


 :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Michael on 18 April 2016, 10:42:29
Bad timing on my part. Now I get this:

Quote
We?ll be right back!

This web site is unavailable at the moment because we?re doing some essential maintenance. Sorry for the inconvenience!

Please check back soon.

I'll try again, real soon.  :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Randi on 18 April 2016, 10:48:29
From http://classic.oldweather.org/ships/ I do get the list of ships and I can bring up the Yorktown "home page", but when I click transcribe (I am not logged in) I get the "We?ll be right back!" message.
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Bob on 18 April 2016, 10:51:05
I'm currently getting 404 errors when I click on 'Transcribe'...
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Randi on 18 April 2016, 11:22:26
I will notify the PTB
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: AvastMH on 18 April 2016, 11:37:39
I just got into Patterson  :D
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Randi on 18 April 2016, 11:42:47
I don't :'(



I can get to the Patterson home page (http://classic.oldweather.org/ships/50874f4d09d4090755026716), but when I click Transcribe logs, I get the 404 error.
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Randi on 18 April 2016, 11:57:05
I just tried it again and I was asked to log in.

Would someone else please test it?



I just had a reply to my email saying that the login should now be fixed ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: AvastMH on 18 April 2016, 12:03:56
OH - I got all the way through - was logged in anyway :)   I'll try another  :)

Yep - tried Albatross 1900 and it was fine (and what an impeccably kept log :D )
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Hanibal94 on 18 April 2016, 12:07:08
I just hit the Transcribe button on three vessels:

- Albatross 1900: OK.
- Jamestown 1844: OK.
- Yorktown: OK.

All good here!  :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Bob on 18 April 2016, 12:07:22
It's working for me now...
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Randi on 18 April 2016, 12:10:12
Thanks everyone!
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Michael on 19 April 2016, 21:43:42
I am pleased to announce, "Once more a grandfather!"  :) :) :) :)

Cigars for all, candy cigarette for Hanibal!    ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Caro on 20 April 2016, 02:32:06
Congrats Michael!  :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Randi on 20 April 2016, 02:34:37
Congratulations Michael!
 - but I'll pass on the cigar ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Hanibal94 on 20 April 2016, 02:47:43
Congratulations, and thanks for being so considerate!  ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 20 April 2016, 03:59:26
I am pleased to announce, "Once more a grandfather!"  :) :) :) :)

Cigars for all, candy cigarette for Hanibal!    ;)

Nice one Michael.
Ditto for me on the 10th April. Benjamin James .....
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Caro on 20 April 2016, 04:23:37
Congratulations to you too, Stuart.  :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Bob on 20 April 2016, 06:42:36
Congratulations!
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Craig on 20 April 2016, 06:58:02
Congratulations, Michael!

Sorry, you too Stuart! (didn't see your message)  :-[ :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Dean on 20 April 2016, 08:38:29
Congratulations to Michael & Stuart AND their Families!!   ;D ;D

More OW'ers   ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Helen J on 20 April 2016, 10:53:34
Congratulations to Michael and Stuart and all their family members - the OW tribe increases ...... :D
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: AvastMH on 20 April 2016, 14:21:53
I add my congratulations too Michael and Stuart!  Happy days!  :D
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: jil on 20 April 2016, 15:15:16
Congratulations Grandfathers!
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Hurlock on 20 April 2016, 16:38:00
I am pleased to announce, "Once more a grandfather!"  :) :) :) :)

Cigars for all, candy cigarette for Hanibal!    ;)
Congrats
I will also pass on the cigar.
My second grandchild arrived on the 14th April
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Randi on 20 April 2016, 16:52:23
Congratulations to you and to Stuart!
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: AvastMH on 20 April 2016, 17:14:22
Wow! Hurlock - congratulations to you too. It's triplets then (for OW I mean)  :D
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 20 April 2016, 17:23:41
T'is the season for Grandchildren.
Congrads to you Hurlock.

Lets not forget the Parents, Congratulations to them also.   ;)


(At this rate with the grandchildrens help we may get the Patterson finished this decade.)   ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Craig on 20 April 2016, 17:53:15
My granddaughter was really keen on doing OW when she was about 9. Now she's turned 13 so forget it.  ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: AvastMH on 21 April 2016, 15:11:41
 ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: JamesAPrattIII on 22 April 2016, 16:22:13
It looks like the new British polar research vessel is not going to be named Boaty mcBoatface according to a news article.
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: AvastMH on 22 April 2016, 17:27:08
Do you know what it will be called please?  :D
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Tegwen on 23 April 2016, 06:57:05
Congratulations all.

K
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Thursday Next on 23 April 2016, 13:52:06
Do you know what it will be called please?  :D

Just looked on the website and I don't think they have finalized the name yet.  You can subscribe to an email to be notified when the name is announced.
https://nameourship.nerc.ac.uk/
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: AvastMH on 23 April 2016, 15:03:18
oh - right-e-o  I might well do that then. Some joker on PW noticed one of the ships we see on our site 'Nessie_Line' and called it Boaty McBoatface...gave us all a laugh :D
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Thursday Next on 23 April 2016, 15:31:25
I've subscribed to the email.  I do hope common sense will prevail!  My vote went to "David Attenborough" but a lot of very silly names were put forward, not just Boaty McBoatface.
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: jil on 24 April 2016, 08:06:18
One day last week (can't remember which  ::)) the man who has to make the final decision (or at least a representative of a committee - I'm assuming there's a committee!) was interviewed on Radio 4's PM program, he didn't seem very keen on Boaty McBoatface. He also mentioned that, as it's a royal research vessel, he has to get the Queen to sign the charter (or some official thing) so it would be a bit embarrassing to go to her and explain they were calling the ship Boaty McBoatface.
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Randi on 24 April 2016, 08:23:56
No worse than explaining that you are a crew member of Boaty McBoatface ::)
As I understand it, the guy that made the suggestion has apologized.
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Hanibal94 on 24 April 2016, 08:49:10
There was an opinion on the BBC saying the best option would be to give the ship a serious name - like David Attenborough - and then name one of its lifeboats the Boaty McBoatface.
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Craig on 24 April 2016, 10:08:29
I guess you don't quibble over the name of the lifeboat that is used to save you  ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Randi on 24 April 2016, 11:25:16
There was an opinion on the BBC saying the best option would be to give the ship a serious name - like David Attenborough - and then name one of its lifeboats the Boaty McBoatface.

That seems like a good compromise ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Craig on 26 April 2016, 13:18:43
I have been inadvertently typing the wrong key combination and occasionally causing my keyboard to act strangely. For example, I would type a "b" and get my bookmarks list rather than a "b". I finally discovered that I was pressing the caps lock and Alt keys at the same time. My left index finger is usually on Tab but sometimes it slips. I never realized that you can lock the Alt key, but you can on my keyboard, at least.
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: AvastMH on 26 April 2016, 14:48:47
I can do all sorts of things with my keyboard...not that I ever want to do them, but fingers live their own life there too  ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Michael on 26 April 2016, 14:50:50
I have been inadvertently typing the wrong key combination and occasionally causing my keyboard to act strangely. For example, I would type a "b" and get my bookmarks list rather than a "b". I finally discovered that I was pressing the caps lock and Alt keys at the same time. My left index finger is usually on Tab but sometimes it slips. I never realized that you can lock the Alt key, but you can on my keyboard, at least.

So that's what's going on!!!! Thank you, Craig!
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Hanibal94 on 27 April 2016, 03:41:07
I can do all sorts of things with my keyboard...not that I ever want to do them, but fingers live their own life there too  ;D

Yes, there are many shortcuts out there. Only Google knows them all.
Here's a few anybody, not just IT people, can use:

Ctrl-Shift-T: Reopen the last closed tab (Very useful if you close a tab by mistake!)
Ctrl-Z: Undo the last change you made to a document/email/anything with writing and copy-paste
Ctrl-Y: Redo the last change you made to a document/email/anything with writing and copy-paste

The latter two work on a lot of programs - usually, you can do them several times in a row to undo/redo a bunch of changes. It depends on the program.
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Randi on 27 April 2016, 06:39:41
Ctrl-Z and Ctrl-Y are old, old friends ;)

Ctrl-Shift-T: That's a new one for me. Very useful indeed!
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Thursday Next on 27 April 2016, 14:54:01
Ctrl-Shift-T is new to me as well.  I'm always closing tabs by mistake, so that will be very useful indeed.  Thanks, Hanibal!
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Craig on 27 April 2016, 16:38:10
Likewise for me.
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 28 April 2016, 00:01:29
Whilst not recommending it for general use, I often use
Ctrl A
Del
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: AvastMH on 28 April 2016, 06:06:25

Ctrl-Shift-T: Reopen the last closed tab (Very useful if you close a tab by mistake!) - Oh BOY!! That's fantastic!  :D
Ctrl-Z: Undo the last change you made to a document/email/anything with writing and copy-paste - know that one
Ctrl-Y: Redo the last change you made to a document/email/anything with writing and copy-paste -  that's new to me and I like it a lot

Stuart - what does your intriguing 'Ctrl A Del' do before I try it?  ;)

thanks everyone, it's been an education  :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Craig on 28 April 2016, 06:36:14
You can type Ctrl-a without doing any harm. Del is optional.
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Hanibal94 on 28 April 2016, 07:41:43
Oh, I get it - first you press Ctrl A, which is mark everything, and then you press Del to delete it all.
Nice try, Stuart - but it was no match for Ctrl Z!  ;)

One more: Ctrl F can be used to search for keywords in a lot of applications.
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Tegwen on 28 April 2016, 08:18:28
Ctrl-f is brilliant, I use it all the time.

I type xx at anywhere I want to come back to, then ctrl f, type in xx & then click on next and it goes straight to the next xx, enabling me to work through all of the points that I want to go back to.

Much better than highlighting, which means that you have to scroll through the whole document to find the next highlight visually.

Also use it to find whether I have met a particular ship, or place etc before by scrolling to the top, ctrl f, typing in the name I am looking for and hitting next. If I have met that ship before I will be taken to the first entry for that ship, if not then I am taken back to where I was so that I can put in details of the ship.

Also useful with the replace command to change something throughout the document.

Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: AvastMH on 28 April 2016, 08:39:43
I really am at school today -  ;D   I should have spotted Stuart's though. I guess I got a bit key-stroke lazy. I remember having a great paper ruler thing that you could prop up on your keyboard to tell you what keystrokes you could do...they were jolly useful.  :D
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: studentforever on 28 April 2016, 11:48:37
When I am hunting info on ship, places etc I use numbered bookmarks. This has the added advantage that if I need help from the forum then I can quickly jump to the entry after I've moved on in the file. It is a bit slower but I also add highlights as well as a belt & braces.
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Michael on 28 April 2016, 19:59:04
And I thought we were getting ripped off by the cable companies! This exchange between USS Zafiro and USS Yorktown on 31 July 1900, at the treaty port of Chefoo, China:

Quote
At 1:10 Z to Y (wigwag) (What amount of money is required for cablegrams to date) At 1:20 Y to Z (wigwag) About two thousand seven hundred dollars)
    :o :o :o :o :o
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: studentforever on 29 April 2016, 01:28:36
And if you think of what else a dollar would have bought!!!
 :o :o :o
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Randi on 29 April 2016, 02:07:00
WOW!
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Craig on 29 April 2016, 06:51:39
Did you convert what was reported into current dollars, Michael? If not, it's a coincidence that $100 US in 1900 is worth about $2700 in 2014. http://www.in2013dollars.com/1900-dollars-to-2014-dollars. That's 27*2700= $72,900

Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Hanibal94 on 29 April 2016, 13:33:55
Giant Monster Hamster attacks Major City (https://www.youtube.com/embed/AQte2nz80Is)

This video won a Webby!
http://webbyawards.com/winners/2016/online-film-video/general-film/weird/tiny-hamster-is-a-giant-monster/

Quote
ABOUT THE WEIRD CATEGORY

Online film and video that is strange, offbeat or odd. This category includes video that reflects a unique perspective in thought and action strong enough to start a revolution, change a behavior pattern, or advance old thinking lodged in bad habits, or that are just plain strange.
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Thursday Next on 29 April 2016, 14:09:04
That's good!  It was a fun video!
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Michael on 30 April 2016, 10:28:09
And I thought we were getting ripped off by the cable companies! This exchange between USS Zafiro and USS Yorktown on 31 July 1900, at the treaty port of Chefoo, China:

Quote
At 1:10 Z to Y (wigwag) (What amount of money is required for cablegrams to date) At 1:20 Y to Z (wigwag) About two thousand seven hundred dollars)
    :o :o :o :o :o

Only five days later and they need another $1,600 for cablegrams. That's $43,000 in today's currency!  :o :o :o
If they burned through the $2,700 from 31 July that's $14,580 per day for cablegrams (today's currency)!!! I knew that long distance relationships were difficult, but I had no idea they were so expensive.  ;)
 
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The following signals were sent:- At 4:50 A.S. to Y "How much money for cablegrams?" At 5:00 Y to A.S. "Sixteen hundred dollars."

Mind you, the quote is vague, and it could mean that they have $1,600 left. If that's the case, they spent $1,100 or just a tad under $6,000 per day. Even so!!!
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Randi on 30 April 2016, 11:32:17
Could it be other ships paying the Yorktown for cablegrams?
It seems a bit strange that Yorktown would be paying Zafiro and A.S. :-\
Who or what is A.S.?
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Michael on 30 April 2016, 13:16:34
Could it be other ships paying the Yorktown for cablegrams?
It seems a bit strange that Yorktown would be paying Zafiro and A.S. :-\
Who or what is A.S.?

USS Zafiro is the supply ship/collier. A.S. or often just S. is USS Nashville. Zafiro brings us money, so we like her.  ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 30 April 2016, 23:22:21
Well you think they are pirates charging for the telegrams.
The Patterson has just sent the Pirate over to Eliza harbor SE Alaska with the shore line.
Cheaper than using the local telco.   ;D

http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USCS%20Patterson/Book%2041/IMG_9025_0.jpg (http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USCS%20Patterson/Book%2041/IMG_9025_0.jpg)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Caro on 01 May 2016, 06:24:59
It's not a lost art here:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-36168408
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Randi on 01 May 2016, 09:13:33
Yes, I had seen that article ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Craig on 01 May 2016, 09:50:49
Well you think they are pirates charging for the telegrams.
The Patterson has just sent the Pirate over to Eliza harbor SE Alaska with the shore line.
Cheaper than using the local telco.   ;D

http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USCS%20Patterson/Book%2041/IMG_9025_0.jpg (http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USCS%20Patterson/Book%2041/IMG_9025_0.jpg)

 ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Craig on 02 May 2016, 13:14:28
You may be interested to know what became of the Mayflower. It was last seen delivering water to the Patterson in Seattle. (Mer. - 4 PM)  ;D

http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USCS%20Patterson/Book%2088/IMG_3402_1.jpg
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: AvastMH on 02 May 2016, 14:10:09
 ;D ;D ;D Umm - must have been casked to have lasted that long
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Randi on 02 May 2016, 14:14:56
 :o
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Michael on 03 May 2016, 12:34:17
I had an interesting problem this morning. About three weeks ago we took two visiting grandchildren to the Victoria Bug Zoo. There, you can by an Chinese Praying Mantis egg sack. These insects are wonderful for killing aphids and, although they are not indigenous to this area, they are not invasive; i.e. they will neither reproduce nor survive through the winter. Every day we would mist the egg sack, which is kept in a brown paper bag. This morning, I decided to check email BEFORE  going to the gym and I heard a weird and very faint scratching sound. When I looked over my desk, I could see dozens of baby mantises scrambling down the filing cabinet, across the floor, up the walls and under my desk. (Mommy likes lots of children - 5o to 200 at a time!) They had found a small opening their paper bag nursery and were heading for the hills! I figure they must have hatched only a few minutes before I came into the room. Luckily I postponed the gym!

It has taken me an hour, but I think most of them are now outside looking for aphids and other tasty snacks!

(http://i.imgur.com/iE9FJ4Y.jpg?1)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Hanibal94 on 03 May 2016, 12:57:39
WOW!
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Randi on 03 May 2016, 13:00:21
 ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Helen J on 03 May 2016, 13:04:16
Brilliant picture - and I'm glad you managed to get them outside.  Must have been quite a task!
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Michael on 03 May 2016, 13:12:15
Brilliant picture - and I'm glad you managed to get them outside.  Must have been quite a task!

By comparison, herding cats is trivial!!!!  ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: jil on 03 May 2016, 13:13:34
What Hanibal said!
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: studentforever on 03 May 2016, 13:44:20
May your roses prosper!
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: AvastMH on 03 May 2016, 14:04:47
May your aphids quake at their knees  :o  Impressive  ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Michael on 03 May 2016, 15:02:44
First I spent an hour getting 200 bugs out of my house, and then Craig found that one had gotten into my software, so I spent another hour getting rid of it!  ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Dean on 03 May 2016, 16:09:51
First I spent an hour getting 200 bugs out of my house, and then Craig found that one had gotten into my software, so I spent another hour getting rid of it!  ;D

 :o ::) ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: AvastMH on 03 May 2016, 17:14:04
I thought I'd try to see if there were any amusing praying mantis/ship images, but I found Dame Edne Everedge Mantis - and here I stop then, in fits of laughter:

(http://i.imgur.com/ThFhMP6.png?1)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Michael on 04 May 2016, 10:11:21
A horrible time for Fort McMurray, Alberta, as a major forest fire goes through the city (http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmonton/wildfire-rages-in-fort-mcmurray-as-evacuees-settle-in-edmonton-1.3565573). Over 50,000 people evacuated. For those of you not familiar with it, Fort McMurray is the site of the Tar Sands, Canada's major contribution to CO2 and climate change.
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Craig on 04 May 2016, 10:27:25
Yes, it's an incredible fire! Fortunately they managed to evacuate the entire city of about 60,000 people. Most didn't even have time to pack before leaving it happened so fast.
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Randi on 04 May 2016, 10:37:20
Terrible.
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Craig on 04 May 2016, 10:40:08
On another topic, Michael has got most of the bugs out of his box drawing script for OW3 (if not out of his house  ;D). I am finally getting used to not using the mouse and not entering the hour, which is augmented automatically. Today I did 25% more pages than I usually do without the script. Of course, I am not as quick and accurate with the mouse as others may be so some of you may not experience the same increase in productivity. Not only does it save time in box drawing, you don't have to check the sidebar to see if you have the right number of rows or if you made any mistakes in the hours, which I occasionally did - especially with the current Patterson log book with 6 PM and 7 PM in the wrong order.
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: AvastMH on 04 May 2016, 14:33:57
That sounds like an excellent job - thanks Michael and thanks Craig  :D
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Michael on 04 May 2016, 14:44:47
That sounds like an excellent job - thanks Michael and thanks Craig  :D

Especially Craig who made all sorts of wonderful suggestions for enhancements. My next project is to have:

Alt-t - makes a fresh pot of tea and brings it to my desk; and,
Alt-c - takes the cat out for a walk.  ;)

Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: AvastMH on 04 May 2016, 14:48:48
We may need video evidence of these, but one thing's for sure, if you make those work we will ALL be beating a path to your door for those codes  :D  Special request, I don't have a cat, so could you do ctrl+H for feeding the hedgehogs please?  ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Michael on 04 May 2016, 15:33:54
We may need video evidence of these, but one thing's for sure, if you make those work we will ALL be beating a path to your door for those codes  :D  Special request, I don't have a cat, so could you do ctrl+H for feeding the hedgehogs please?  ;)

You're as bad as Craig - adding jobs to my to do list. I suppose you'll want Alt-c for coffee, too.  ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: jil on 04 May 2016, 15:39:49
Just Watching on the BBC - Ice Station Antarctica (http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b079s24p) (should be available on iplayer soon). About the British Antarctic Survey's Halley Research station. Including studying weather and space weather.
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A veteran of living and working at Halley in the early eighties, BBC weatherman Peter Gibbs makes an emotional return to the place he once called home. A place that, during his time, was key to the discovery of the ozone hole.
The journey starts with an arduous 12-day, 3000-mile voyage onboard the RRS Ernest Shackleton.

Ernest Shackleton - that's a sensible name for a ship!
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Kathy on 04 May 2016, 15:47:17
Oh, I've been meaning to let the PTB at the Zooniverse that I am still getting junk emails from the Zooniverse email address - I got one last week....
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: AvastMH on 04 May 2016, 18:06:28
We may need video evidence of these, but one thing's for sure, if you make those work we will ALL be beating a path to your door for those codes  :D  Special request, I don't have a cat, so could you do ctrl+H for feeding the hedgehogs please?  ;)

You're as bad as Craig - adding jobs to my to do list. I suppose you'll want Alt-c for coffee, too.  ;)

I need to ask?  ;) ;) ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: AvastMH on 04 May 2016, 18:08:33
Just Watching on the BBC - Ice Station Antarctica (http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b079s24p) (should be available on iplayer soon). About the British Antarctic Survey's Halley Research station. Including studying weather and space weather.
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A veteran of living and working at Halley in the early eighties, BBC weatherman Peter Gibbs makes an emotional return to the place he once called home. A place that, during his time, was key to the discovery of the ozone hole.
The journey starts with an arduous 12-day, 3000-mile voyage onboard the RRS Ernest Shackleton.

Ernest Shackleton - that's a sensible name for a ship!

I thought I noticed that the chunk of ice currently lurking under Halley is breaking up and likely to go wandering the Antarctic seas - a tad inconvenient if you are in the Halley  :o  (Though it'll make a jolly fine capture on PenguinWatch  ;D )
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Michael on 04 May 2016, 18:37:14
We may need video evidence of these, but one thing's for sure, if you make those work we will ALL be beating a path to your door for those codes  :D  Special request, I don't have a cat, so could you do ctrl+H for feeding the hedgehogs please?  ;)

You're as bad as Craig - adding jobs to my to do list. I suppose you'll want Alt-c for coffee, too.  ;)


I need to ask?  ;) ;) ;D

Forgive me, please. I should have anticipated your every need, even before you knew them yourself.  I was being most inconsiderate!  :'( :'( :'(  ;)   ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Randi on 05 May 2016, 02:25:38
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Alt-c - takes the cat out for a walk.
Can this one be modified to have the cat sit on my lap?
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Caro on 05 May 2016, 04:01:05
I need a 'remove cat from lap' command.
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Randi on 05 May 2016, 07:23:15
Oh, I've been meaning to let the PTB at the Zooniverse that I am still getting junk emails from the Zooniverse email address - I got one last week....

Please see: Junk/Spam emails from the Zooniverse email address (http://forum.oldweather.org/index.php?topic=4564.msg128691#msg128691)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: AvastMH on 05 May 2016, 08:30:51
We may need video evidence of these, but one thing's for sure, if you make those work we will ALL be beating a path to your door for those codes  :D  Special request, I don't have a cat, so could you do ctrl+H for feeding the hedgehogs please?  ;)

You're as bad as Craig - adding jobs to my to do list. I suppose you'll want Alt-c for coffee, too.  ;)


I need to ask?  ;) ;) ;D

Forgive me, please. I should have anticipated your every need, even before you knew them yourself.  I was being most inconsiderate!  :'( :'( :'(  ;)   ;D ;D ;D ;D

You do indulge us mapurves  ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Hanibal94 on 05 May 2016, 14:50:53
The latest news on our dear friend, the Boaty McBoatface:

http://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-36216392
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: AvastMH on 05 May 2016, 15:34:38
It strikes me that there is a burgeoning affection for this ship with that name. But I'm also trying to picture HM The Queen cracking a bottle of bubbly over it whilst declaring 'We name this ship Boaty McBoatface, may God bless Her and all who sail in Her'   ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Thursday Next on 05 May 2016, 15:48:39
And now there's a racehorse in Australia called Horsey McHorseface ...
http://edition.cnn.com/2016/04/15/sport/horsey-mchorseface/
(and do scroll down to the train carriage sign!)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: AvastMH on 05 May 2016, 16:38:34
Enjoyed both of those  ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: jil on 06 May 2016, 03:51:19
 ;D
And whatever official name the ship ends up with everyone will probably still call her Boaty McBoatface.
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Caro on 06 May 2016, 05:35:44
Drum roll ...

'Boaty McBoatface' polar ship named after Attenborough (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-36225652)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Hanibal94 on 06 May 2016, 05:49:14
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While the ship will not be named Boaty McBoatface, one of the remotely operated sub-sea vehicles will be named Boaty in recognition of the vote.

Yay! It wasn't a total loss!
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Randi on 06 May 2016, 07:53:31
Quote from: http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-36225652
An alternative name of "Subby McSubface" is already being suggested on social media.
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: AvastMH on 06 May 2016, 09:06:39
Well it all seems to have turned out for the best, by my book. :D
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Thursday Next on 06 May 2016, 10:50:39
Yes, an excellent choice of name!  :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: JamesAPrattIII on 09 May 2016, 22:09:59
It is believed that the wreck of Captain Cook's ship HMS Endeavour has been found off the coast of Rhode island where it was scuttled during the American Revolution.
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Hanibal94 on 10 May 2016, 12:53:56
http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-36260569

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Prof Wingham said NERC would do the same again in the future, although he said there were no plans for other boats at the moment.

I look forward to seeing what happens next time!  :D
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Randi on 10 May 2016, 14:15:08
Well, it did stir up a lot of interest ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: jil on 11 May 2016, 09:40:25
Back in - woooo hooo  :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Randi on 11 May 2016, 09:43:23
Thanks to astopy (Adam) !!!
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: propriome on 11 May 2016, 10:53:37
Thank you Adam!!!
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: AvastMH on 11 May 2016, 18:37:07
http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-36260569

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Prof Wingham said NERC would do the same again in the future, although he said there were no plans for other boats at the moment.

I look forward to seeing what happens next time!  :D

Facey McFaceBoat?  :-X 8)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: AvastMH on 11 May 2016, 18:37:43
Thanks to astopy (Adam) !!!

I'll second that!  ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Craig on 12 May 2016, 08:35:47
It is possible that some of our members may not have found their way back to the Forum. I am not the only one who had to be reminded to clear their browser cache (via an e-mail from Randi).
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Dean on 12 May 2016, 09:08:48
I just figured that out after 3 days of 'Sorry the Site is under Repair!!'   :P

Tried a different Browser and here I am. NOW I'll go fix my computer cache!!   ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Randi on 12 May 2016, 10:02:35
The OW Classic Forum (topic on OW Talk) (https://www.zooniverse.org/projects/zooniverse/old-weather/talk/175/53442)
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Note: If you are having problems getting to the forum you might need to clear your cache.

(Adam had me do that earlier when I was getting the Zooniverse page rather than the "We'll be right back" page)

 ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: leelaht on 12 May 2016, 21:58:46
Last night also lost OW transcription  >:(  and site unresponsive :( :'(
And after 3 days without forum ("be right back" became unbelievable)  :o, went to the other OW discussion board and saw clear cache message.  ???
Didn't know what that meant  :-\, had to google it and took 4 tries wandering through menus.   :-[
But here I am. ;D It'll take more than that to keep me away  ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Randi on 13 May 2016, 02:29:27
 ;D ;D ;D

Clear cache took me a bit of time to figure out too. I will add a couple of notes.

I had serious problems about nine hours ago with Talk, OWW, and OW5.
The forum was not working very well either. However, by the time I had tested everything and created a post asking if others were seeing problems, things seemed to be back to normal.
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Craig on 13 May 2016, 06:30:26
We haven't heard from Helen yet. I left a message for her in the Patterson discussion before we lost the Forum.
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Randi on 13 May 2016, 06:50:51
Helen was here yesterday ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Hanibal94 on 13 May 2016, 06:52:03
What Randi said (and I was just about to say!)

that would be something to

detest

(though I do love the thought of a Superb Owl!)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Randi on 13 May 2016, 06:54:13
Specially for Danny and Pommy ;)



Jacobite steam train open for summer (http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-36255827)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Randi on 13 May 2016, 06:56:28
What Randi said (and I was just about to say!)

that would be something to

detest

(though I do love the thought of a Superb Owl!)

Probably the first and last time I beat Hanibal94 ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Randi on 13 May 2016, 14:31:50
Anyone who worked on the Jungle Rhythms project might be interested in: Adding data to Old Weather, collaboration or developers and community advice? (http://forum.oldweather.org/index.php?topic=4565.0)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: AvastMH on 13 May 2016, 15:47:55
Specially for Danny and Pommy ;)



Jacobite steam train open for summer (http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-36255827)

Stunning..and if you go to Mallaig you must indulge in possibly the finest kippers in the world. I can smell them now.  :P
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Dean on 15 May 2016, 20:01:27
Clearing the Cache should be a 'regular' chore for most of us. The good news is that the Browser runs much better and with fewer 'mistakes.' The bad news is that it usually trashes all the cookies and 'keep me logged in' so you have to reenter those 'locked' web sites!! (Like here!)   ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Randi on 16 May 2016, 03:31:33
On Firefox you can clear the cache without clearing the cookies...
I cleared the cache, but I still have my drop-downs and an still logged in to my usual places.
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: jil on 16 May 2016, 03:42:55
Alternatively, you can force the page to be reloaded (rather than the system display the one held in the cache) by pressing Fn (function) & F5.
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Randi on 16 May 2016, 04:08:54
That works in most cases, but I tried it with the forum problem last week and it didn't help. I think it was because the link was wrong. The page loaded by the link was the correct page for that (incorrect) link.

Clear? ::)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Hanibal94 on 16 May 2016, 04:14:03
On Firefox you can clear the cache without clearing the cookies...
I cleared the cache, but I still have my drop-downs and an still logged in to my usual places.

Same on Chrome. You can even specify the time frame (1 hour, 1 day... up to Forever).
When I do online banking or pay for something with a credit card, I clear everything from the past hour afterwards.
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: propriome on 16 May 2016, 04:46:23
That works in most cases, but I tried it with the forum problem last week and it didn't help. I think it was because the link was wrong. The page loaded by the link was the correct page for that (incorrect) link.

Clear? ::)

Yup... in this specific case Ctrl+F5 wouldn't have worked... the page was redirected from oldweather.org to zooniverse.org... Ctrl+F5 on the landing page (zooniverse.org) would have refreshed that last one and not the orginal.

In this case the only solution would be clearing the cache (and only that) in browser options/settings pages, or requesting confirmation for redirects (there are a couple of useful plugins for this in FF) and using Ctrl+F5 when the url is still oldweather.org
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: jil on 16 May 2016, 13:20:16
 ??? Worked for me (in Firefox), which is good as I would have struggled to work out how to clear the cache  ::)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Dean on 16 May 2016, 19:23:29
I should have been more specific with my comment.

Yes - Cache can be dumped without affecting cookies, etc. I usually do a 'mass cleaning' every now and then just to get any and all 'miscellaneous crud' that slipped by my firewalls, 'locks' etc. out of the system. Runners better too.

More time for OW!    ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 17 May 2016, 00:45:39
Hi folks.
Just a quick post to let you know where I am and have been(if anybody is interested that is)
New South Wales.
Dubbo
Lightning Ridge.
Queensland.
Cunnamulla
Nockatunga
Quilpie
Charleville
Now at Blackall.
Close to 3000km.
Stuart.

When I tried to login during the trip from my usual URL (http://forum.oldweather.org/index.php?action=unreadreplies)
I kept getting the 'We'll be right back message.

Now i have better internet I came in from Zooniverse.
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Randi on 17 May 2016, 02:10:32
We did have a problem :'(
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Randi on 17 May 2016, 09:07:49
Nothing to do with ships or weather, but I thought it was pretty neat:
Italy unearths huge Roman barracks during Rome metro dig (http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-36311156)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: AvastMH on 17 May 2016, 09:59:42
I bet they don't open that station on time! ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: propriome on 17 May 2016, 10:10:43
They've already accumulated a quite big (and expensive) delay so far ;D ;D
Deadline was set to late 2020-early 2021 but it's already quite unlikely it will be finished at that time...
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Helen J on 17 May 2016, 11:53:00
For anyone interested in the Battle of Jutland, a documentary on Channel 4 on Saturday.  I expect it will be available online after it's been shown.

http://www.channel4.com/programmes/jutland-wwis-greatest-sea-battle
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Thursday Next on 17 May 2016, 14:07:51
According to my BBC History magazine there is also a Radio 4 documentary "Jutland: The Battle That Won The War" due to air on 27 May - not sure of the time, but no doubt available on i-Player after broadcast.  There is also going to be a BBC2 documentary "The Navy's Bloodiest Day" but they didn't have a transmission date.
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: AvastMH on 17 May 2016, 14:21:21
I'll try to record them then I can put them on the computer :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Michael on 17 May 2016, 23:17:17
One of the more annoying things about having cats that sleep on your lap while you're trying to enter data into OW, and yes there is more than one annoying thing, is that  eventually your keyboard is gasping for air, being choked to death on cat hair.  :o

One of the good things about cleaning cat hair out of your keyboard with your powerful shop vacuum, and yes there is more than one good thing about cleaning your keyboard, is that all the cats in the house go into hiding.  ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Caro on 18 May 2016, 02:33:42
... and yes there is more than one good thing about cleaning your keyboard, is that all the cats in the house go into hiding.  ;D

Until they go deaf.  :o :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 18 May 2016, 04:35:41
One of the more annoying things about having cats that sleep on your lap while you're trying to enter data into OW, and yes there is more than one annoying thing, is that  eventually your keyboard is gasping for air, being choked to death on cat hair.  :o

One of the good things about cleaning cat hair out of your keyboard with your powerful shop vacuum, and yes there is more than one good thing about cleaning your keyboard, is that all the cats in the house go into hiding.  ;D

Do you vacuum Toby as well?
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Michael on 18 May 2016, 12:56:48
Do you vacuum Toby as well?

Lucy is the big offender, and it was tempting, but no. I can imagine the repercussions!   ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Michael on 18 May 2016, 13:00:29
Hi folks.
Just a quick post to let you know where I am and have been(if anybody is interested that is)
New South Wales.
Dubbo
Lightning Ridge.
Queensland.
Cunnamulla
Nockatunga
Quilpie
Charleville
Now at Blackall.
Close to 3000km.
Stuart.


Are you going to swing by Daly Waters?   ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Thursday Next on 18 May 2016, 14:52:18
According to my BBC History magazine there is also a Radio 4 documentary "Jutland: The Battle That Won The War" due to air on 27 May - not sure of the time, but no doubt available on i-Player after broadcast.  There is also going to be a BBC2 documentary "The Navy's Bloodiest Day" but they didn't have a transmission date.

Having checked the Radio Times for 27 May I couldn't find the Radio 4 documentary listed, so I presume it has been rescheduled.
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: AvastMH on 18 May 2016, 15:19:27
oh  :(  I hope it re-appears  :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Thursday Next on 18 May 2016, 15:47:25
I hope so too - maybe it will be a day or two nearer the actual anniversary?  The TV documentary is apparently going to be on the weekend of 28-30 May.  BBC History magazine had a big feature on it in the last issue - they assessed it in hindsight as definitely a British victory.  It will be interesting to find out what view these different documentaries take.
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Helen J on 19 May 2016, 07:14:50
According to my BBC History magazine there is also a Radio 4 documentary "Jutland: The Battle That Won The War" due to air on 27 May - not sure of the time, but no doubt available on i-Player after broadcast.  There is also going to be a BBC2 documentary "The Navy's Bloodiest Day" but they didn't have a transmission date.

Having checked the Radio Times for 27 May I couldn't find the Radio 4 documentary listed, so I presume it has been rescheduled.

According to the BBC website, it's on 22 May at 1.30pm (and will be available on the iPlayer after broadcast).
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Caro on 19 May 2016, 12:08:50
And this is on Channel 4, May 21, at 8pm: http://www.channel4.com/info/press/programme-information/jutland-ww1s-greatest-sea-battle
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Thursday Next on 19 May 2016, 14:46:26
According to my BBC History magazine there is also a Radio 4 documentary "Jutland: The Battle That Won The War" due to air on 27 May - not sure of the time, but no doubt available on i-Player after broadcast.  There is also going to be a BBC2 documentary "The Navy's Bloodiest Day" but they didn't have a transmission date.

Having checked the Radio Times for 27 May I couldn't find the Radio 4 documentary listed, so I presume it has been rescheduled.

According to the BBC website, it's on 22 May at 1.30pm (and will be available on the iPlayer after broadcast).

Thanks, Helen - I think I might have otherwise failed to notice that listing!
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: AvastMH on 19 May 2016, 17:03:27
We'll do well as we age...how do I know? Just watching a programme on the Beeb (BBC1) about how to keep your brain working. And it seems that good sleep and keeping your brain muscle working hard (what better than the OW Gymnasium!?!) means that the ageing process has less effect on your cognitive functions. It was a programme called 'The Truth About'. No doubt it will be on iplayer soon. A number of eminent scientists in the field of Alzheimer's Disease featuerd. :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Randi on 19 May 2016, 17:27:45
That's the problem - i need more sleep.
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: JamesAPrattIII on 19 May 2016, 22:11:54
The World War One Historical association is having a Symposium later this year. Two of the topics are on naval matters. see ww1ha.org
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Craig on 20 May 2016, 06:55:31
Is anyone else experiencing a problem with the capture screen? The magnifier partially obscures the capture screen boxes. The progress bar is in the wrong position as well. Very strange. ???

I have tried it with Firefox and IE on both of my computers and I get the same thing.
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Caro on 20 May 2016, 07:04:35
Hi Craig. I get error messages for OW Classic using both Firefox and Chrome. Will investigate.
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Hanibal94 on 21 May 2016, 16:31:56
Something to make us all feel better, with the interface still being down...

https://www.facebook.com/candaceSpayne/videos/10209653193067040/
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Craig on 21 May 2016, 19:35:05
Where do you dig these things up, Hanibal?  ;D I think she should have tried the mask out on a good friend before posting on Facebook. Of course, I have been transcribing today so I may be biased.  ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 21 May 2016, 23:21:36
I look like that most mornings.   ::)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: AvastMH on 22 May 2016, 08:41:07
I'm trying to picture what my mum would have looked like in that  :o
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Hanibal94 on 22 May 2016, 11:33:18
Where do you dig these things up, Hanibal?  ;D I think she should have tried the mask out on a good friend before posting on Facebook. Of course, I have been transcribing today so I may be biased.  ;D

I have several sources. This one was reported by the BBC and Der Spiegel, so it was easy to track the orignal down.

Wait a minute... How are you still transcribing when no one else can? What's your secret?
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: AvastMH on 22 May 2016, 15:05:57
I'm working on a Patterson page now - can you not access it hanibal?  :-\

Ummmm - anyone got a microscope for the current records on Patterson please - pretty please -very pretty please?  :o ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Hanibal94 on 22 May 2016, 15:28:16
Nope, still can't get at it with Chrome or Firefox!
With both of those, an attempt to log in results in failure due to too many redirects.
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Randi on 22 May 2016, 15:47:08
Same here.
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Craig on 22 May 2016, 15:48:20
Wait a minute... How are you still transcribing when no one else can? What's your secret?

By setting my Firefox option to "show my windows from last time" I never have to sign in. It is only the sign-in that is causing the problem. Perhaps you can restore a previous log page in your History?
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Caro on 22 May 2016, 15:54:54
The rest of us, as Grant said (http://forum.oldweather.org/index.php?topic=3117.msg129153#msg129153) on Friday, will probably have to wait until tomorrow for a fix.
Definitely, I would say.
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Helen J on 22 May 2016, 16:09:58
And if we still haven't got back in by tomorrow evening - here's another OW related programme coming up.  On BBC4 at 9pm on Monday, the first of three programmes on the history of weather forecasting.  It's repeated on Tuesday at 8pm.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b07cvg9p
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Hanibal94 on 22 May 2016, 16:21:17
Perhaps you can restore a previous log page in your History?

No - I have it set up so I get logged out whenever I close the browser, and have to sign in again next time I open it.
Gotta wait till tomorrow.  :(
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: AvastMH on 22 May 2016, 16:31:58
Well that's amazing because it seems like it's usually me that can't get into anything  :-\
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: leelaht on 23 May 2016, 21:46:30
what to wear on Thetis, Mare Island, Aug 27, 1986

200 prs drawers
37 " leggings
100 neckerchiefs
75 rating badges
150 prs C.S.shoes
200 " socks
200 undershirts
50 working jumpers
100 " trousers
145 white hats
75 jerseys
40 blankets
40 doz eagle buttons (small)
300 doz rubber "
494 yds cap cloth
320 " trouser cloth
479 " flannel
10 mattresses
863 sps sewing silk
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Randi on 24 May 2016, 02:22:36
 8)

Maybe a new topic for The Voyages, The Work, The People: Everyday Life at Sea? ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Helen J on 24 May 2016, 10:32:22
That sounds like an awful lot of cap cloth - how many caps did they each have?
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: AvastMH on 24 May 2016, 18:16:20
Well speaking as a seamstress there's a few odd things here. But the cap cloth could be more excessive than is immediately obvious...

150 prs C.S.shoes -145 white hats = 5 people to share 494 yds cap cloth
So that's 98yds 29ins a piece. Good. No need to skimp on the seam allowances then  ;D



Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Craig on 24 May 2016, 20:10:46
Do you think they were setting up a cap-and-trade system?   ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Randi on 25 May 2016, 02:09:41
 ::) ::)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Randi on 25 May 2016, 07:20:55
Cattle drugs could fuel climate change, study suggests (http://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-36368734)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: AvastMH on 25 May 2016, 08:54:40
I've never heard a cow burp..but I guess they must do it a lot  :-\  ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Helen J on 25 May 2016, 10:44:28
And if we still haven't got back in by tomorrow evening - here's another OW related programme coming up.  On BBC4 at 9pm on Monday, the first of three programmes on the history of weather forecasting.  It's repeated on Tuesday at 8pm.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b07cvg9p

Watched this yesterday - interesting in parts.  But it did have a (brief) appearance by our Philip B, so the watching was all worthwhile!
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Randi on 25 May 2016, 11:27:50
Don't panic: Happy Towel Day (http://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-36379444)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: AvastMH on 25 May 2016, 11:36:54
And if we still haven't got back in by tomorrow evening - here's another OW related programme coming up.  On BBC4 at 9pm on Monday, the first of three programmes on the history of weather forecasting.  It's repeated on Tuesday at 8pm.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b07cvg9p

Watched this yesterday - interesting in parts.  But it did have a (brief) appearance by our Philip B, so the watching was all worthwhile!

That's good to know about - thanks Helen - I'll check that out  :D
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: AvastMH on 25 May 2016, 11:49:58
Don't panic: Happy Towel Day (http://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-36379444)
Fantastic! I wish I had known. There's a roundabout just on the south end of the next town north of Oxford (Bicester) which has a beautiful garden on it supported by 'Vogon Plants' and that's where the name of the Vogons comes from - cool :D

My mum bought me a towel for when I left home. It's a tad threadbare now, but still used at 40 years less 4 months after it started its life with me. :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Randi on 25 May 2016, 12:15:31
There's a roundabout just on the south end of the next town north of Oxford (Bicester) which has a beautiful garden on it supported by 'Vogon Plants' and that's where the name of the Vogons comes from

 8) 8) 8)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Bob on 25 May 2016, 12:26:43
Is this it?

https://www.google.com/maps/@51.8922548,-1.1292188,3a,50.2y,190.66h,76.81t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sjgp7Au1Z8Gvx5vThadfTPw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656?hl=en

I can't make out the sign.  ;D

Fantastic! I wish I had known. There's a roundabout just on the south end of the next town north of Oxford (Bicester) which has a beautiful garden on it supported by 'Vogon Plants' and that's where the name of the Vogons comes from - cool :D
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Caro on 25 May 2016, 12:28:49
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CjTUwjsXAAAbIL5.jpg:large)

True.  ;D



Also, Vogon poetry: http://forum.oldweather.org/index.php?topic=1616.msg18767#msg18767!
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: AvastMH on 25 May 2016, 12:33:53
Is this it?

https://www.google.com/maps/@51.8922548,-1.1292188,3a,50.2y,190.66h,76.81t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sjgp7Au1Z8Gvx5vThadfTPw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656?hl=en

I can't make out the sign.  ;D

Fantastic! I wish I had known. There's a roundabout just on the south end of the next town north of Oxford (Bicester) which has a beautiful garden on it supported by 'Vogon Plants' and that's where the name of the Vogons comes from - cool :D

Oh yes - well found Bob! It used to have a very humble sign that was large and easy to read. But it got smartened up after Douglas headed off to the restaurant beyond the end of the universe :D
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: AvastMH on 26 May 2016, 12:26:26
An amusing time-warp comment - something funny that tickled my rib anyway. Sadly don't know where the original sign was posted  :)

(http://i.imgur.com/MMLuKeC.png)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Randi on 26 May 2016, 13:53:16
 ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Craig on 26 May 2016, 14:37:12
 ;D

If we're going back in time, why not June 1895, for example?
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: AvastMH on 26 May 2016, 15:55:02
Oh I think that's coming up in my 2017 diary but I missed it during February this year. Never mind we may circle back past it at some point in 2019  ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Hanibal94 on 27 May 2016, 13:58:09
Vineyard employs ducks to get rid of pests (http://www.goodnewsnetwork.org/watch-900-ducks-protect-vineyard-pests/)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Randi on 27 May 2016, 14:09:45
Good!
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Craig on 27 May 2016, 14:19:42
They used to sell a rather mediocre wine in Quebec called Baby Duck, popular mainly because of it's low cost. Now I know the whole story behind it. It did have a rather fowl taste  ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Michael on 27 May 2016, 14:20:56
Good!
My dad used to borrow a couple of ducks from my sister. He would put the ducks in his garden for two or thee days. That's all it took to clean out slugs and snails, and then the ducks would go back to their home. He would repeat the treatment every few weeks.  :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Thursday Next on 27 May 2016, 14:56:08
Can anyone lend me a whole load of ducks?  My garden is just full of slugs and snails!
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Michael on 27 May 2016, 19:34:48
Can anyone lend me a whole load of ducks?  My garden is just full of slugs and snails!

I called my sister. The ducks are in the mail. My sister says to send them back when the slugs are all gone.   ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Randi on 28 May 2016, 02:40:43
Can anyone lend me a whole load of ducks?  My garden is just full of slugs and snails!

I called my sister. The ducks are in the mail. My sister says to send them back when the slugs are all gone.   ;)

Su, please pass them on to me, and I will send them back once the snails are gone ;) ;D

Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Tegwen on 28 May 2016, 08:21:01
Hi

I have just received my copy of a fairly new book. T. E Lawrence & the Red Sea Patrol, by John Johnson-Allen.

It is a really useful summary of the activities of the Red Sea Patrol during WW1. The index mentions loads of our ships including. Clio, Odin, Espiegle, Suva, Lunka, Lama, Minerva, Ben-my-Chree, Northbrook etc. In particular it provides very useful background for example the background to a particular landing or offensive action by one of these ships.

I am more than happy to look up to see whether this book covers any incidents you may be interested in, as it is often difficult to work out exactly what these ships were doing, and the context for actions etc. 

However, there are some dreadful mistakes, the worst I have found so far being the lovely drawing of HMS Espiegle, which is of a predecessor of our Espiegle, ( the Doterel class sloop) rather than our Cadmus sloop herself.

Strange book.

Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Thursday Next on 28 May 2016, 12:44:04
Can anyone lend me a whole load of ducks?  My garden is just full of slugs and snails!

I called my sister. The ducks are in the mail. My sister says to send them back when the slugs are all gone.   ;)

Su, please pass them on to me, and I will send them back once the snails are gone ;) ;D

I'll do that, Randi, but I think they might be here a while to get the job done!  ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: AvastMH on 28 May 2016, 17:36:22
I've got at least 5 hedgehogs that I could loan. There's scarcely a slug or snail for miles. Not sure if they would be too dangerous to go through the post with all those spikes  ;)

Actually - thinking more seriously, hedgehog hospitals do look for suitable adopters.  :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Tegwen on 29 May 2016, 13:47:33
Hi

I dont normally watch "Songs of Praise", but as I was eating my tea it came on. (For non UK residents it is a religious programme, concentrating on hymms, shown every sunday evening on BBC).

Before I could find the remote, the introduction came on and it was aboard HMS CAROLINE. There was quite a bit of footage of the ship, in her newly restored state, showing the displays and restoration, and she looked great.

The deck in particular looked beautifully holystoned!! (Sorry)

Also a bit of footage of Jutland and some general WW1 pictures.

I am sure that it  will be available on iplayer, for those interested.

She will be open to the public from Monday, it looks a bit tight. While it wasnt clear when the programme was filmed there was plenty of scafolding & screening still up.

K
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Thursday Next on 29 May 2016, 14:35:47
I've got at least 5 hedgehogs that I could loan. There's scarcely a slug or snail for miles. Not sure if they would be too dangerous to go through the post with all those spikes  ;)

Actually - thinking more seriously, hedgehog hospitals do look for suitable adopters.  :)

I used to have hedgehogs in my garden, though I haven't seen any for a while, unfortunately.  However, I am afraid they made zero impact on the slug/snail problem.  I am not eligible to adopt a hedgehog because I do not have a completely enclosed garden.  I think word has spread round the neighbourhood that I have an organic garden and every mollusc for miles around has come to live here.  >:(
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: AvastMH on 29 May 2016, 17:14:59
Oh dear :(  Well I guess there must be a mollusc appreciation society somewhere perhaps they could be persuaded to do the adopting?  ;) ;) :D My best friend has the plastic bag method all sorted out - gather them by hand and take them to some nice countryside a long way off  :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Thursday Next on 30 May 2016, 13:14:51
I'm not sure even that works!  There is a theory that big slugs and snails exude pheromones that stop the little ones from growing bigger.  So when you catch and remove the big ones there are no pheromones and so the little ones grow into big ones and very shortly you are back to square one.  My plan is to stick with plants that are slug-proof from now on.
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: AvastMH on 30 May 2016, 13:20:43
That sounds like the perfect plan of action Thursdaynext  :D
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Hanibal94 on 30 May 2016, 14:39:53
I thought this was really interesting!

How Switzerland saved tens of thousands of WW1 soldiers (http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-36391241)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Bob on 30 May 2016, 14:50:08
That is interesting, and a facet of that war I'd never heard about. Thanks for posting.
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Randi on 30 May 2016, 14:55:06
Yes, very interesting.
Good for the soldiers and good for the Swiss.
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Michael on 30 May 2016, 15:48:33
Yes, very interesting.
Good for the soldiers and good for the Swiss.

I second that motion!
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: AvastMH on 30 May 2016, 15:54:25
I'll third that for sure :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 31 May 2016, 02:37:28
Hi Folks,
Just thought I would let you know Janeece and I are in Ngurrungurrudjba (pronounced Ngurrungurrudjba).
Can I use that in the work game when I/if I can?
Stuart
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Randi on 31 May 2016, 06:37:19
Go ahead ;)
http://forum.oldweather.org/index.php?topic=2560.msg129522#msg129522
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: leelaht on 31 May 2016, 12:25:54
Hi Folks,
Just thought I would let you know Janeece and I are in Ngurrungurrudjba (pronounced Ngurrungurrudjba).
Can I use that in the work game when I/if I can?
Stuart

If you include a picture  ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: AvastMH on 31 May 2016, 13:32:40
If you can also spell it backwards  ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Randi on 31 May 2016, 14:11:58
(http://imagizer.imageshack.com/img923/5442/RcMgf7.png) (http://imageshack.com/i/pnRcMgf7p)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: AvastMH on 31 May 2016, 16:36:26
 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: leelaht on 31 May 2016, 19:27:36
(http://imagizer.imageshack.com/img923/5442/RcMgf7.png) (http://imageshack.com/i/pnRcMgf7p)

that's cheating!
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 01 June 2016, 01:59:20
A very few pics on Google pics at https://goo.gl/photos/zyyJkKmMNDPsNVzw8 (https://goo.gl/photos/zyyJkKmMNDPsNVzw8)
Using Mobile internet and only have 2.5gb/month, pics at 250kb res
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Caro on 01 June 2016, 03:36:41
Looks great, Stuart. Happy travels!  :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: AvastMH on 01 June 2016, 17:40:27
Looks good Stuart! Hope you didn't have your flip-flopped feet too close to that croc ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Hanibal94 on 04 June 2016, 17:13:36
Dog drives Canadian postal van (https://www.youtube.com/embed/3Ueg7Q7hO7U)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Dean on 04 June 2016, 19:11:09
Dog drives Canadian postal van (https://www.youtube.com/embed/3Ueg7Q7hO7U)


The 'Just For Laughs' Crew have a regular television show on CBC - Canada. We enjoy it on a regular basis. VERY imaginative!!!   ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Craig on 04 June 2016, 19:42:14
Canada Post is facing huge budget deficits so this is one of their cost-saving measures. So far it has worked pretty well.  ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Michael on 08 June 2016, 00:47:08
A week in the Yukon and I must be getting used to it already. The sun came out for a few minutes, and the wind died down and we all remarked how warm it was (at 14C!)!  :o

Years ago I helped out at a charity and they had a used clothing sale every month outside, except Nov - Feb. It was a cold October day, -22C and a lady called Rena had just moved up from Arizona. She was helping with the sale and she said she had never been so cold in her whole life. "Rena," I said, "the day will come when you think -22C is warm!" "That will NEVER happen!" she said, Never!"

February was a long and very cold month, and one day the cold spell broke. The sun was out, the air was calm and it was a lovely -25. Walking down the street was Rena, with a huge smile on her face, her light parka unzipped, no gloves and just light shoes. "Isn't this lovely!" she exclaimed. "Warm, isn't it!" I said. "Sure is," she said, and then she stopped, embarrassed, and we both laughed and laughed. Never was four months long.  ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Randi on 08 June 2016, 02:06:21
Sun vs. shade and calm vs. wind make a HUGE difference!
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 08 June 2016, 03:42:44
37.5c yesterday, second highest temp in Kununurra on record. 24c at night, high humidity, cannot wait to get back to single digit temps (minus the rain).
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: jil on 08 June 2016, 05:15:50
 :o
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Michael on 08 June 2016, 09:55:48
Stuart,

Did you make it to Daly Waters and, if so, what did you leave behind?  ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: AvastMH on 08 June 2016, 15:31:40
Stuart,

Did you make it to Daly Waters and, if so, what did you leave behind?  ;D

I'm interested to hear this one  :D
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Randi on 12 June 2016, 04:21:02
In pictures: Europe's last primeval forest (http://www.bbc.com/news/in-pictures-36469144)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Bob on 12 June 2016, 08:11:15
Fascinating and lovely place.
In pictures: Europe's last primeval forest (http://www.bbc.com/news/in-pictures-36469144)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: AvastMH on 12 June 2016, 08:18:47
In pictures: Europe's last primeval forest (http://www.bbc.com/news/in-pictures-36469144)

 :o :o :o  Seems very drastic. I'd love to know if they have put efforts in place to preserve the wildlife whilst restoring the affected sections of forest  :-\
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Michael on 12 June 2016, 18:09:57
We're back from visiting family in the Yukon.

Driving the Alaska Highway on the road to Haines Junction. One wag said, "Miles and miles and miles of miles of nothing but miles and miles," but I might disagree.  ;)

(http://i.imgur.com/Oi3W9Kz.jpg?1)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Randi on 12 June 2016, 18:25:30
A  Happy
211'th  Birthday
to  Hanibal94



(http://orig08.deviantart.net/39f4/f/2012/043/9/1/my_little_birthday_card_by_snakeman1992-d4pji83.jpg)


Or, if you prefer, a Happy 112'th  Birthday,
or a Happy 0001 0110'th  Birthday, or ...
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Randi on 12 June 2016, 18:27:34
A Belated
Happy Birthday to
Helen J


(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/ee/Devil%27s_food_cake.jpg)(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/20/Angel_food_cake_with_strawberries_%284738859336%29.jpg)
Devil's food cake (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Devil%27s_food_cake)
or
Angel food cake (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Angel_food_cake)
?
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Michael on 12 June 2016, 18:50:02
Both!   ;D

Yes, Happy Birthday Helen and Hanibal!!!
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 13 June 2016, 00:35:08
Ditto from Downunder.
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Hurlock on 13 June 2016, 01:13:33
Happy Birthdays both.
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: studentforever on 13 June 2016, 01:53:18
May you both have many more.
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Caro on 13 June 2016, 02:49:27
Happy birthdays, Hanibal and Helen  :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: jil on 13 June 2016, 02:53:20
Happy Birthdays!!

And great scenic view of 'nothing'.
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 13 June 2016, 05:23:58
Well here are a few scenic views of something.
https://goo.gl/photos/zyyJkKmMNDPsNVzw8 (https://goo.gl/photos/zyyJkKmMNDPsNVzw8)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Craig on 13 June 2016, 07:00:48
Nice somethings, Stuart  8)

Happy Birthday Hanibal and Helen  :) :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Helen J on 13 June 2016, 07:23:41
A Belated
Happy Birthday to
Helen J


(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/ee/Devil%27s_food_cake.jpg)(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/20/Angel_food_cake_with_strawberries_%284738859336%29.jpg)
Devil's food cake (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Devil%27s_food_cake)
or
Angel food cake (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Angel_food_cake)
?


Both please!
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Randi on 13 June 2016, 08:32:02
 ;D

Good decision!
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: propriome on 13 June 2016, 08:53:39
Happy birthday Hanibal and Helen!!
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Dean on 13 June 2016, 13:40:20
Happy Birthday Helen & Hannibal!!

(http://i.imgur.com/LyVvbHL.jpg)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Thursday Next on 13 June 2016, 14:19:20
Happy Birthdays to Helen and Hanibal!
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Hanibal94 on 13 June 2016, 14:29:42
Thanks for all the birthday wishes, everybody!

I finished up my Bachelor thesis today, and got it printed. Been working on that thing for 2.5 months now, so it feels really great to have it done. Tomorrow, I will go get it bound and hand it in.
Other than that, not much to say. Life goes on. Not much to unlock after the 18th birthday.

Oh, and congratulations Helen!
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Randi on 13 June 2016, 16:55:12
I finished up my Bachelor thesis today, and got it printed. Been working on that thing for 2.5 months now, so it feels really great to have it done. Tomorrow, I will go get it bound and hand it in.

Congratulations !

(http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/scratchpad/images/f/fa/Rainbow_'Who's_ready_to_get_their_party_on'_S4E12.png)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: AvastMH on 13 June 2016, 17:21:48
A very happy birthday to Helen and Hanibal   :D :D :D


(http://i.imgur.com/NsPUhRE.png)  (http://i.imgur.com/HMFhEjW.png)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: AvastMH on 13 June 2016, 17:33:04
Thanks for all the birthday wishes, everybody!

I finished up my Bachelor thesis today, and got it printed. Been working on that thing for 2.5 months now, so it feels really great to have it done. Tomorrow, I will go get it bound and hand it in.
Other than that, not much to say. Life goes on. Not much to unlock after the 18th birthday.

Oh, and congratulations Helen!

That's a special birthday and a great moment to get that thesis bound and ready to enthrall your tutors :D  So now you can perhaps indulge in a brief moment of relaxation? ;)

(http://i.imgur.com/3nsc5yO.png)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Randi on 13 June 2016, 17:37:36
Monique, the hen who is sailing around the world (http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-36475672)

Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: AvastMH on 13 June 2016, 17:46:05
Monique, the hen who is sailing around the world (http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-36475672)

Well Monique is living an eggsiting life style, though I was a little worried to see that she might end up in the roasting tin  ;) ;) ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Hanibal94 on 14 June 2016, 04:07:23
Wow! Thanks for all the cake, people!
Better not eat it all at once...  ;D

Monique, the hen who is sailing around the world (http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-36475672)

Cool story - and I love the pictures of Monique doing stuff!  8)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: jil on 14 June 2016, 04:19:37
Monique, the hen who is sailing around the world (http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-36475672)
;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Thursday Next on 14 June 2016, 15:59:48
Monique, the hen who is sailing around the world (http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-36475672)

Well Monique is living an eggsiting life style, though I was a little worried to see that she might end up in the roasting tin  ;) ;) ;D

Don't worry Joan!  I heard a news item on the radio yesterday and Guirec assured us all that he would never harm Monique!
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: AvastMH on 14 June 2016, 18:01:15
Pheww - because I have to tell him that monique's egg production would certainly go down if he did end up putting gravy over her as she sat next to a few roast potatoes!  :o  ;)  ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Randi on 28 June 2016, 09:21:03
Wife cake and evil water: The perils of auto-translation (http://www.bbc.com/news/business-36638929)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Caro on 28 June 2016, 09:43:19
'Translate Server Error' is a classic.  ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Randi on 28 June 2016, 10:26:11
I hadn't seen it before :-[



I remember once (way before translation software) visiting a Swiss museum where "Exposition provisoire" was translated as "Exposition previous" rather than "Temporary exhibition".
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Craig on 28 June 2016, 10:47:00
Me ether. 
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Michael on 28 June 2016, 13:00:49
Me ether.

Years ago when I was working in Los Angeles doing odd jobs, I was having lunch with some Spanish speaking workers, none of whom spoke English. We were communicating in sign language etc. The foreman, who was the classic redneck, saw me with these workers, and he said to me, "I don't know why these people can't talk white."

"What do you mean?" I asked.

"If English was good enough for Jesus Christ, it's good enough for me," he replied.

"I didn't know Jesus Christ spoke English," I said.

He nicely concluded the discussion with, "The bible's wrote in English, ain't it?"

It's hard to argue with facts like those!

Luckily for the world he isn't in charge of the Google Translator. I can just imagine putting a foreign phrase into the translator, and it comes back with "Just talk white!"  ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Dean on 28 June 2016, 13:11:30
I heard the gentleman who invented 'autocorrect' died.

May he restaurant in piece.   ::)   ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: AvastMH on 28 June 2016, 14:35:46
 ;D ;D ;D

I am worry to hear he is know one of the deadly deported  :( ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Hanibal94 on 28 June 2016, 16:34:54
Hi all,

Just wanted to say I have returned from my vacation to Lyon and the SE French coast safe and sound. It was a good one, me and my dad had a relaxing time, did some hikes and snorkeling and had a lot of tasty food (but no frogs or snails).

Gonna spend the rest of the evening catching up on things, hope to do some transcribing tomorrow. Will update guestimations and rankings soon.
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Randi on 28 June 2016, 16:55:01
Welcome home!
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: studentforever on 28 June 2016, 17:04:38
Glad you had a good time but nice to see you back.
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: jil on 28 June 2016, 17:23:32
Welcome back, Hanibal!
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Craig on 28 June 2016, 17:55:49
The party's over. Back to work Hanibal  :D ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Michael on 28 June 2016, 18:31:19
Yes, welcome back!
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Bob on 28 June 2016, 19:24:22
Welcome Back!  :D
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Helen J on 28 June 2016, 19:57:43
Welcome back, Hanibal - glad you had a good time (and avoided the snails!)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Randi on 30 June 2016, 07:05:47
Happy Asteroid Day (http://asteroidday.org/)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: AvastMH on 30 June 2016, 14:00:49
Happy Hanibal Day (http://asteroidday.org/)

Glad you're back from your asteroid!  ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Michael on 01 July 2016, 16:19:25
Happy Canada Day, Craig!!!
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Craig on 01 July 2016, 16:48:32
Likewise, Michael! Are we the only two?
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: AvastMH on 01 July 2016, 17:26:39
That's an awful lot of territory to represent you two - GOOD LUCK!!!

(http://i.imgur.com/y4Yu3K2.png)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Craig on 01 July 2016, 17:43:06
He's got the west side and I am holding down the East side. So far, so good.  ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Randi on 01 July 2016, 17:55:24
Happy Canada Day !
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Craig on 01 July 2016, 19:13:37
Thanks, Randi and Joan.

No Canexit is contemplated here. No can exit from NAFTA, that is (even though Trump wants to renegotiate).  ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Helen J on 01 July 2016, 20:01:07
Lucky you!  And your prime minister hasn't resigned either  :'(
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Michael on 01 July 2016, 20:18:14
Thank you, all. All we have to do here is fight the challenge, from a former easterner who has moved here, to separate Vancouver Island from British Columbia.  ;D

As a mark of derision, I wore, at the gym, my 40 year old T-shirt that has a map of Vancouver Island with V.I.L.O. printed over it, and the words Vancouver Island Liberation Organisation around it.  ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: AvastMH on 02 July 2016, 10:47:32
He's got the west side and I am holding down the East side. So far, so good.  ;D

Sounds like you've got it covered then  ;D (How many square miles is that each?  :o)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Michael on 02 July 2016, 11:06:38
He's got the west side and I am holding down the East side. So far, so good.  ;D

Sounds like you've got it covered then  ;D (How many square miles is that each?  :o)

It means we are each doing the work for 18,077,000 million people, five provinces, 1.5 territories (we each get half of the NorthWest Territories) and cover an area of 5,000,000 square kilometres (1,950,000 square miles).

It's no wonder that I get tired at the end of the day, though Craig seems to be made of sterner stuff.  ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: AvastMH on 02 July 2016, 13:30:39
 ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Craig on 02 July 2016, 13:38:09
It's no wonder that I get tired at the end of the day, though Craig seems to be made of sterner stuff.  ;D

I actually contract some of the responsibility out to my cat.
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Michael on 02 July 2016, 15:19:25
It's no wonder that I get tired at the end of the day, though Craig seems to be made of sterner stuff.  ;D

I actually contract some of the responsibility out to my cat.

You're lucky to have a helpful and responsible cat.  ;D I have one who is totally useless, and the other is a giant nuisance, and who causes me more work than the 18,000,000 for whom I am responsible.  :o
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: AvastMH on 02 July 2016, 16:14:15
 ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Caro on 04 July 2016, 02:47:02
Happy 4th of July to all those celebrating and good luck Juno!

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CmN3-HXWIAI_pD6.jpg:large)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: jil on 04 July 2016, 04:00:39
 :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Dean on 04 July 2016, 07:39:49
Happy 4th of July to all those celebrating and good luck Juno!

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CmN3-HXWIAI_pD6.jpg:large)

My students used to ask 'Do they have a 4th of July in England?!' I'd say 'Yes, they have a 4th all over the World.' and THEN they'd want to know about the 'Celebration'.........    ::)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Michael on 04 July 2016, 11:02:49
Happy 4th of July to all of you living south of the 49th!
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Bob on 04 July 2016, 11:08:46
Thanks!  ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Craig on 04 July 2016, 11:38:10
Happy 4th of July from me too!
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Helen J on 04 July 2016, 13:47:19
As a temporary American resident, thank you for the Fourth of July wishes - it's my first one here, so I'm looking forward to the experience.
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Hanibal94 on 04 July 2016, 14:09:10
Happy Independence Day!

(http://cdn.movieweb.com/img.news.tops/NEmiIjALQN1Rqp_1_b.jpg)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: AvastMH on 04 July 2016, 17:18:46
Now - here's an idea, a small part of the British Empire decides to go independent in order to establish better care for its inhabitants by removing the burden of supporting that distant authority.  And it worked so well......strange how history repeats itself?

Y'all have a grand July 4th :D :D :D


(http://i.imgur.com/DNmsZgk.png)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: AvastMH on 04 July 2016, 17:28:20
Word of warning - Imgur beta testing - I stupidly said 'yes' to it.
If you use it in beta test and paste in an image you'll get one code showing up that doesn't work. Go to your name (top right) and chose 'images' from the dropdown list, then click on the image that you want to get a code for and select the 'direct' code.  :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Caro on 05 July 2016, 03:04:04
(http://www.trbimg.com/img-577b20c2/turbine/la-sci-juno-20160704-photo/600)

This is the last view from the JunoCam before it was shut down in preparation for entering orbit around Jupiter. Four of Jupiter's 53 moons are clearly visible. (NASA)

 ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Randi on 05 July 2016, 03:07:42
Hurray !


Juno probe enters into orbit around Jupiter (http://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-36710768)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Thursday Next on 05 July 2016, 15:30:26
Fantastic!  Some good news for a change!  ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Dean on 06 July 2016, 09:33:24
Now - here's an idea, a small part of the British Empire decides to go independent in order to establish better care for its inhabitants by removing the burden of supporting that distant authority.  And it worked so well......strange how history repeats itself?

Y'all have a grand July 4th :D :D :D


(http://i.imgur.com/DNmsZgk.png)

Saw a posting "July 4th..the original 'Brexit.' I'll have to try to find the picture.   ::)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Randi on 08 July 2016, 15:13:47
Today's featured article in Wikipedia is the Jeannette Expedition!
 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Page)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Helen J on 08 July 2016, 19:49:46
Woo-hoo!  I've only had a quick look, but I can't see OW mentioned anywhere.  I know there was some problem with linking to the logs, so perhaps that's the reason ....?  ???
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Randi on 09 July 2016, 02:01:39
As far as I know, there is only a problem linking to UK logs.
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Michael on 14 July 2016, 10:25:50
Bonne Fete Nationale!
Happy Bastille Day!
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: AvastMH on 15 July 2016, 08:44:59
Bonne Fete Nationale!
Happy Bastille Day!


Let's hope that FRATERNITE will grow strong amongst us all!
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Randi on 17 July 2016, 04:09:40
Why India needs to remember 'forgotten' fallen of world wars (http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-india-36801602)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: studentforever on 17 July 2016, 04:31:04
Did we ever get anywhere in collating the 'Seedies' and similar groups who served on 'our' ships and lost their lives in various ways? I know they don't appear on the CWGC site but it would be good to identify them as well as possible for the future.
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Randi on 17 July 2016, 07:19:18
I don't know of anything.
Perhaps a topic in The Voyages, The Work, The People: Everyday Life at Sea?
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: AvastMH on 17 July 2016, 11:15:10
Same from me as from Randi. I didn't know that anything was started up yet - but  sounds like a lovely idea.

(I'm thinking to start something for the whalers - lost a 27 year old yesterday after a long miserable 3 weeks illness having been beaten up by a right whale.)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Randi on 17 July 2016, 15:16:55
Currently in Talk US burials at sea and other recorded deaths (https://www.zooniverse.org/projects/zooniverse/old-weather/talk/186/13530) includes both US government ships and Whalers. Perhaps we should start a separate topic like Whaling burials at sea and other recorded deaths?

Or do we want to make the existing topic more general - something like Deaths reported in our log books?

I have no strong feelings one way or another and I am definitely open to a better title! ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Craig on 17 July 2016, 15:25:26
Would "Davy Jones' Locker" be too flippant?
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Bob on 17 July 2016, 15:51:11
I can't think of any reason why Navy, government or whaling vessels need to be kept separate for this.

Or do we want to make the existing topic more general - something like Deaths reported in our log books?
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Randi on 17 July 2016, 17:04:12
I can't think of any reason why Navy, government or whaling vessels need to be kept separate for this.
Talk does allow you to edit titles ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Caro on 19 July 2016, 10:14:41
Mary Rose warship: full view revealed (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-hampshire-36802829)

Time for another look!
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: AvastMH on 19 July 2016, 11:46:55
She looks stunning. I was on a ferry to the Channel Islands as they were preparing to lift her - the amount of kit required was awesome :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Caro on 23 July 2016, 03:27:53
History! On this day in 2012, Philip's blog (https://blog.oldweather.org/2012/07/23/one-million-six-hundred-thousand-new-observations/) celebrated the completion of the RN log books. 
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: jil on 23 July 2016, 05:07:16
4 years ago  :o

Time flies when you're having fun   :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Randi on 23 July 2016, 06:49:09
(http://i.imgur.com/B5aTato.gif)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Randi on 23 July 2016, 11:09:13
Large heath butterfly unfurls its wings (http://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-36865428)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: jil on 23 July 2016, 14:05:21
Large heath butterfly unfurls its wings (http://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-36865428)
8) The release site is about 25 miles away from me. It's owned by Lancashire Wildlife Trust (http://www.lancswt.org.uk/news/2014/07/02/large-heath-fly-again-heysham-moss) who I do some volunteering for, although not on that site.
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: AvastMH on 24 July 2016, 10:22:07
History! On this day in 2012, Philip's blog (https://blog.oldweather.org/2012/07/23/one-million-six-hundred-thousand-new-observations/) celebrated the completion of the RN log books.

It was really that long ago? Boy!  :o
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: AvastMH on 24 July 2016, 10:24:06
Large heath butterfly unfurls its wings (http://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-36865428)
8) The release site is about 25 miles away from me. It's owned by Lancashire Wildlife Trust (http://www.lancswt.org.uk/news/2014/07/02/large-heath-fly-again-heysham-moss) who I do some volunteering for, although not on that site.

Beautiful creature - good luck to it :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Tegwen on 24 July 2016, 14:03:58
Mary Rose warship: full view revealed (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-hampshire-36802829)

Time for another look!

That will be a wonderful day out. M33 and the accessible Mary Rose, on one site.

I will just wait until the schools go back.
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Randi on 24 July 2016, 18:19:52
Joan found a great poem: http://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lccn/sn82015418/1856-11-20/ed-1/seq-4.pdf ;D
(top left)

Some interesting whaling info too!
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Michael on 24 July 2016, 19:32:45
 ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Hanibal94 on 25 July 2016, 02:49:26
Hilarious! Thanks Joan.  ;D

I don't get the line about the fat woman growing thinner day by day. I'm pretty sure he's not referring to a real woman, but I can't figure out what it means. Little help here, please?
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: studentforever on 25 July 2016, 05:36:36
When you are seasick advice is often to go on deck and get some fresh air. If you feel sick there the advice is to be sick over the downwind rail (think about the results of vomiting into the wind!  :( ). As a result of being sick and unable to face eating very much she will lose weight - hence throwing herself over the rail as a metaphor.

(Someone once described severe seasickness as feeling that they wished it would kill you quicker. But once it stops it feels just like a switch being thrown. I've only had it once - I can't read on a tossing ship or moving car for that matter, otherwise I'm usually fine.)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: AvastMH on 25 July 2016, 18:00:14
Joan found a great poem: http://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lccn/sn82015418/1856-11-20/ed-1/seq-4.pdf ;D
(top left)

Some interesting whaling info too!

Cheers Randi! Doh! I was being a bit slow about noting it here wasn't I.

As I'm trying to lose some weight perhaps I ought to put the fat ladies efforts into action - quick - a small ship and a tumbling swell for pity's sake!  ;) ;) ;D

Glad everyone enjoyed it. It was a strange find :D
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: AvastMH on 25 July 2016, 18:40:48
Found another few snippets from the same Edition:

Some things never change  :o ::) ;)
(http://i.imgur.com/k7ZLsIB.png)

And if anyone fancies a long (possibly ever so slightly tall) story about a mad alligator shoot try : http://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lccn/sn82015418/1856-11-20/ed-1/seq-6.pdf top left  ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Randi on 26 July 2016, 02:10:12
Ship hits wall of Panama Canal renewing design concerns (http://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-36891142)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 26 July 2016, 05:06:12
Joan found a great poem: http://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lccn/sn82015418/1856-11-20/ed-1/seq-4.pdf ;D
(top left)

Some interesting whaling info too!

Not quite whaling info just some whaling pics.

Stuart - I replaced the link you had with links directly to the images. Imgur content is not always suited to the forum :-X

Hum... even jpg and png links can have problems. Hopefully inserting the images works!


(http://i.imgur.com/kHfKlnZ.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/WOqyXCK.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/Vt5iKHh.jpg)

Mum and baby.
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: AvastMH on 26 July 2016, 05:06:42
Ship hits wall of Panama Canal renewing design concerns (http://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-36891142)

I bet a ship that big makes quite a ding in a canal wall  :o

Sad news : http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-36883629 Marnie Nixon - the great ghost voice of so many Hollywood actresses has passed away.
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: AvastMH on 26 July 2016, 05:08:50
Joan found a great poem: http://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lccn/sn82015418/1856-11-20/ed-1/seq-4.pdf ;D
(top left)

Some interesting whaling info too!

Not quite whaling info just some whaling pics.
xxxxxxxxxxxxxx

Cow and calf by the looks of it - sweet :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Hanibal94 on 26 July 2016, 09:38:14
Solar Impulse completes round-the-world trip (http://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-36890563)

(http://www.desismileys.com/smileys/desismileys_3266.gif)(http://www.desismileys.com/smileys/desismileys_3266.gif)(http://www.desismileys.com/smileys/desismileys_3266.gif)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Randi on 26 July 2016, 10:24:23
YES!
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Craig on 26 July 2016, 11:11:22
Marvelous! I saw a documentary on their progress last year. It was breathtaking.
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: jil on 26 July 2016, 11:44:38
As mentioned in the last few minute of this morning's BBC Radio 4 Today (http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b07lfsrl) (starts at about 2 hours 53 minutes), the Polar Ocean Challenge (http://polarocean.co.uk/) recently set off from Murmansk to sail around the Arctic (NE and NW Passages) to draw attention to the retreating sea ice.

The ship's log is on the web site, with pressure, water & air temp and cloud coverage.  8) (No sign of anyone being put in single irons for drunkenness yet!)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: AvastMH on 26 July 2016, 11:48:13
Well done Solar Impulse!

Good luck Polar Ocean Challenge - but what sad thing to be signalling - the retreat of the sea ice :(
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Randi on 27 July 2016, 06:06:59
Computer Haiku


A file that big?
It might be very useful.
But now it is gone.


The Web site you seek
cannot be located but
endless others exist


Chaos reigns within.
Reflect, repent, and reboot.
Order shall return.


Aborted effort:
Close all that you have.
You ask way too much.


First snow, then silence.
This thousand dollar screen dies
so beautifully.


With searching comes loss
and the presence of absence:
"My Novel" not found.


The Tao that is seen
is not the true Tao, until
you bring fresh toner.


Windows NT crashed.
I am the Blue Screen of Death.
No one hears your screams.


Stay the patient course
Of little worth is your ire
The network is down


Yesterday it worked
Today it is not working
Windows is like that


Three things are certain:
Death, taxes, and lost data.
Guess which has occurred.


You step in the stream,
but the water has moved on.
This page is not here.


Out of memory.
We wish to hold the whole sky,
but we never will.


Having been erased,
the document you are seeking
must now be retyped.


Rather than a beep
or a rude error message,
these words: "File not found."


Serious error.
All shortcuts have disappeared.
Screen. Mind. Both are blank.




Note: I did not write these.
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Craig on 27 July 2016, 06:17:14
Finally, an English major who took up systems programming. We need more of this  ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: AvastMH on 27 July 2016, 06:23:13
That's tickled my funny bone alright  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Caro on 27 July 2016, 07:03:18
Yesterday it worked
Today it is not working
Windows is like that

I like. It could be applied to many things besides Windows, as long as they have only two syllables, of course.  ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Hanibal94 on 27 July 2016, 07:09:50
Computer Haiku


Bravo!
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: jil on 27 July 2016, 14:58:13
 ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Thursday Next on 27 July 2016, 16:18:49
Brilliant!
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Randi on 27 July 2016, 16:22:59
Viewpoint: The waste mountain of coffee cups (http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-36882799) :'(
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: AvastMH on 27 July 2016, 16:49:44
Viewpoint: The waste mountain of coffee cups (http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-36882799) :'(

Fed up with the despicable waste in this country (well any country of course!).There are so many standard re-usable cups - it should be that you pay double if you don't use a reusable cup. Though I suspect a lot of people might just take that on the chin and simply pay the extra. I despair.  >:(
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Randi on 30 July 2016, 05:14:20
Lava pictures from 'smiling' Hawaiian Kilauea volcano eruption (http://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-36921980)
 :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: AvastMH on 30 July 2016, 05:16:17
Lava pictures from 'smiling' Hawaiian Kilauea volcano eruption (http://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-36921980)
 :)

That's very funny  :D
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: propriome on 31 July 2016, 04:38:06
I'm leaving today for a little summer vacation, therefore...

Have a nice August ye all, and see you soon!
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Randi on 31 July 2016, 04:58:48
Have a good vacation!
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Randi on 31 July 2016, 05:09:41
Belated
Happy Birthdays
to
Stuart and Alessandro
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Caro on 31 July 2016, 05:25:53
Have fun, Alessandro. Send us a postcard!  :)

Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: AvastMH on 31 July 2016, 05:51:21
Happy holidays propriome!

(http://i.imgur.com/yDoRFq6.gif)

Happy birthdays Stuart and Alessandro!

(http://i.imgur.com/92RAIFT.gif)

 :D :D :D
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: jil on 31 July 2016, 06:18:52
What Joan said!
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Hanibal94 on 31 July 2016, 07:18:18
What Joan said!

I'll second that!
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Michael on 01 August 2016, 10:27:37
What Joan said!

I'll second that!

Another from me!!!
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Craig on 01 August 2016, 11:06:51
And me too  :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 01 August 2016, 20:10:37
Belated
Happy Birthdays
to
Stuart and Alessandro

Thanks.
(Only 68 YO)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Michael on 01 August 2016, 20:43:30

Thanks.
(Only 68 YO)

Hah! I have seniority!  ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: AvastMH on 02 August 2016, 04:29:52
You make me feel so young  ;) ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Randi on 02 August 2016, 05:58:24
Russia anthrax outbreak affects dozens in north Siberia
Quote from: http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-36951542
A heatwave has fuelled the disease.
...
Officials believe that the heat melted permafrost and exposed an infected reindeer carcass in the Siberian tundra, AFP news agency reports.
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: jil on 02 August 2016, 12:57:04
 :o
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: AvastMH on 02 August 2016, 17:04:21
I'll double that jil  :o :o
I never thought of that being a problem from global warming - yikes!
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Randi on 03 August 2016, 14:49:26
Quote from: http://www.bbc.com/travel/story/20160725-where-nature-plays-magic-tricks

Frozen methane bubbles, Canada

They look otherworldly, like flying saucers that dropped into the water and froze, or ancient, ice-encapsulated jellyfish. In fact, these icy circles are frozen methane bubbles ? pockets of gas that, when trapped underwater and frozen, form a spectacular landscape.

(http://ichef.bbci.co.uk/wwfeatures/wm/live/1280_720/images/live/p0/42/l6/p042l6j9.jpg)
Frozen methane bubbles are highly flammable and combustable (Credit: robertharding/Alamy)

Found in winter in high northern latitude lakes like Lake Abraham in Alberta, Canada, these gas bubbles are created when dead leaves, grass and animals fall into the water, sink and are eaten by bacteria that excrete methane. The gas is released as bubbles that transform into tens of thousands of icy white disks when they come into contact with frozen water, Quora user Mayur Kanaiya explains.

It?s a stunning, but potentially dangerous sight. This potent greenhouse gas not only warms the planet, but also is highly flammable. Come spring, when the ice melts, the methane bubbles pop and fizz in a spectacular release ? but if anyone happens to light a match nearby, the masses of methane will ignite into a giant explosion.

Curious travellers can see these gassy hiccups in lakes across Canada?s Banff National Park, or in the Arctic Ocean off Siberia, where researchers have found gargantuan gas bubbles as large as 900m across.




Blood Falls, Antarctica

The name says it all. Blood Falls, in East Antarctica?s McMurdo Dry Valleys, looks like slowly pouring scarlet-red blood, staining snowy white Taylor Glacier and Lake Bonney below. It?s a surprising ? and creepy ? sight to behold.

The trickling crimson liquid isn?t blood, however. Nor is it water dyed by red algae, as early Antarctica pioneers first speculated. In fact, the brilliant ochre tint comes from an extremely salty sub-glacial lake, explains Quora user Aditya Bhardwaj.

(http://ichef.bbci.co.uk/wwfeatures/wm/live/1280_720/images/live/p0/42/l6/p042l625.jpg)
Blood Falls in Antarctica is only accessible by helicopter or cruise ship (Credit: Peter Rejcek/Wikipedia)

About two million years ago, a hyper-saline body of water became trapped beneath Taylor Glacier, isolated from light, oxygen and heat. As the saltwater trickles through a fissure in the glacier, it reacts with the oxygen in the air to create this spectacular, rust-hued cascade.

It?s a visual and scientific wonder, and Taylor Glacier ? accessible only by helicopter from McMurdo Station or Scott Base, or cruise ship in the Ross Sea ? is the only spot on Earth to see it.
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: AvastMH on 03 August 2016, 18:24:55
Frozen methane bubbles, Canada

not a place to carelessly strike a match in Spring  :o

 ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Craig on 03 August 2016, 19:58:36
Sounds like a good business opportunity, doesn't it?  ;D ::)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: AvastMH on 04 August 2016, 12:03:39
Would be a bit whiffy though  ;) ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Danny252 on 05 August 2016, 04:47:35
I don't think methane itself has any smell at all. Natural gas has smelly chemicals added so you can detect a gas leak, whilst the... "natural source"... smells because of what else is ejected with the methane!
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Hanibal94 on 05 August 2016, 05:35:06
Danny is correct - I always thought methane smelled awful!

Quote from: The Wiki
At room temperature and standard pressure, methane is a colorless, odorless gas.[10] The familiar smell of natural gas as used in homes is achieved by the addition of an odorant, usually blends containing tert-butylthiol, as a safety measure.
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: studentforever on 05 August 2016, 05:39:11
The fact that you can't smell methane was one of the causes of explosions in coal mines - coal damp. Hence the safety lamp and the canary.
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: AvastMH on 05 August 2016, 11:11:16
You're all right - I forgot about that. I remember the smell of Town Gas when I was little - grim grim grim! And they did have to add a smell to North Sea gas because it was almost scentless.  :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Dean on 05 August 2016, 19:46:37
I don't think methane itself has any smell at all. Natural gas has smelly chemicals added so you can detect a gas leak, whilst the... "natural source"... smells because of what else is ejected with the methane!

It's Methanethiol better known as Methyl Mercaptan (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Methanethiol) All natural gas ALL OVER THE WORLD gets the same additive so that no matter where you are it smells the same!  Used to have some to 'share' with my 6th graders when  they studied Energy.

Propane gets a a different smell as does Butane.
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Caro on 06 August 2016, 03:52:14
They all smell the same to me. Nothing.
There are advantages and disadvantages to having an impaired sense of smell.  ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: AvastMH on 06 August 2016, 05:57:43
Wow - I didn't imagine that there is a standard pong per gas. That's amazing.

The father of a friend of mine had the fun of developing the pumped in smells for the Yorvik (Viking) exhibition in York. His family had the dubious pleasure of 'trying them out'. The smells covered a smoky house, a fish wharf, and a public toilet (a wattle hurdle round a hole in the ground). The phrase 'never bring your work home with you' comes to mind  ;) ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Hurlock on 06 August 2016, 07:20:13
I took my son to one of the Jorvik exhibitions in York yesterday.  He spent quite some time braiding wool into a bracelet.
The main exhibition unfortunately (and smells) has been closed for a while because of the York Floods last year.  Should re-open soon.
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: AvastMH on 06 August 2016, 09:05:59
Oh my - what a co-incidence!  Sorry to hear that the floods claimed it - it is underground (after all these centuries) so I guess it is a risk. Thanks for spelling it correctly too (I thought that 'Yorvik' somehow looked wrong).

Glad that your son did some braiding. I make items like socks and mittens and hats in an ancient type of darning-cum-knitting called naalbinding. And one of the stitches (it's about the most simple)  is York stitch named for a woollen sock found in the original dig. I hope your son enjoyed being a Viking for a while :D
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Michael on 06 August 2016, 22:36:53
Still using Firefox (I am,but not for long)....

This rather long article (https://theintercept.com/2016/07/29/a-famed-hacker-is-grading-thousands-of-programs-and-may-revolutionize-software-in-the-process/) is most interesting. For users like us with no time to spare, scan down to the graph showing the level of security in three different browsers: Firefox is weakest; Chrome is most secure.  :o
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Randi on 07 August 2016, 03:11:34
Very interesting.
A possible future ex-Firefox user :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Caro on 07 August 2016, 04:39:52
Where is IE?
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Craig on 07 August 2016, 06:08:10
I will continue to use Firefox for OW just the same. I have never had any problems in 3 years (that I know of, at least).
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Randi on 07 August 2016, 06:50:04
I have never had any problems in several years (that I know of, at least) either...


Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Hanibal94 on 07 August 2016, 07:41:44
Where is IE?

Gone. It's been discontinued and replaced with Microsoft Edge.
Since January 12th, 2016, IE 11 is the only version still getting security updates and other support, and that won't be forever.
Personally, I am not impressed by Edge. It got rather negative reception at launch, and it took them a whole year just to add extension support!

For anybody who is switching from Firefox to Chrome: You can easily transfer your bookmarks from one to the other like this:
https://support.google.com/chrome/answer/96816?hl=en -> Choose "From Firefox, Internet Explorer or Safari", and between steps 4 and 5, make sure to uncheck the items you don't want to import.
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: AvastMH on 07 August 2016, 07:45:04
I will not mourn IE - annoying stuff and caused so many problems.
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Randi on 07 August 2016, 08:24:38
For anybody who is switching from Firefox to Chrome: ...
Thanks!
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Maikel on 07 August 2016, 09:45:19
For those who can't live without, IE isn't gone, just harder to find.
Like so many useful old programs and settings.
Not that IE was useful. ;)

Simply type Internet Explorer in the taskbar search.

You can even set it as your default browser.
Settings/System/Default apps/Web browser/Select Internet Explorer
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Randi on 07 August 2016, 12:54:22
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/2f/Guardia_Costiera.svg/445px-Guardia_Costiera.svg.png)

Kitten revived by Italian coastguard's kiss of life (http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-37001801)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: AvastMH on 07 August 2016, 13:44:53
 :-* :-* :-*
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Randi on 08 August 2016, 14:54:20
Following Columbus: The team trying to rewrite the explorer's route (http://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-36884261)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Michael on 08 August 2016, 20:08:50
Following Columbus: The team trying to rewrite the explorer's route (http://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-36884261)

So I suppose we will soon have to transcribe the weather reports from the logs of Nina, Pinta and the Santa Maria!?  ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: AvastMH on 09 August 2016, 14:48:45
Perhaps that's why they took on the Shakespeare project - a chance to get OUR character recognition up to snuff?  ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: AvastMH on 10 August 2016, 06:18:43
If any one gets a suspect email from me then don't open it - just delete it - looks like BT have done it again. Grrrr!  >:(
Gradually moving to gmail - sigh!  ::)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Hanibal94 on 14 August 2016, 11:15:14
Can anybody else find all 12 of these hidden animals?

http://www.bbc.com/earth/story/20160812-are-these-the-best-camouflaged-animals
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Helen J on 14 August 2016, 11:35:48
I think I got most of them - though there was one where I think I was looking for a bird but could only see a snake for sure.  A fun thing to try though ....
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Randi on 14 August 2016, 12:15:53
I got all of them - I think.
Image 7 was the hardest for me. I stared and stared, I went on and came back, I had just about given up, but when I scrolled back up it jumped right out at me. I don't think it is so much difficult as tricky ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Thursday Next on 14 August 2016, 15:10:24
I think I got all of them as well, but also found Image 7 the hardest!
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Randi on 20 August 2016, 08:43:45
'World's cutest sheep' go on show in Carlisle (http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-cumbria-37121073)

(http://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/660/cpsprodpb/15BFD/production/_90858098_jamiewood.jpg)

"Because they have only ever been reared by hand they are a very kind breed, very good natured and docile."



Watch out for those horns, though!
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Thursday Next on 20 August 2016, 12:41:26
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/articles/3z2WJCKrGZKZgMXCZqXxDMB/every-woman-dazzles-in-leith-for-edinburgh-art-festival

A new dazzle ship takes shape in Edinburgh - the time-lapse video is fascinating, but the other two film clips on the page are worth a watch too (they're all quite short!)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Helen J on 20 August 2016, 13:11:38
Thanks for posting that - it looks great, and I'm sorry I was in Edinburgh just too early to get down and see it.

Enjoyed the sheep too!  Though I do agree that the horns look a bit risky ....
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Randi on 20 August 2016, 14:21:26
HMT Arfon: Sunken WWI mine trawler protected (http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-dorset-37117334)

 ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Caro on 20 August 2016, 16:33:32
Twitter conversation from 2014  ;D

Arfon Smith ‏@arfon

Delighted to find out that I was also an armed trawler during WWII

Mike Smail ‏@smailtronic
@arfon yes, I've always thought that your triple-expansion engine was a bit oversized.

Philip Brohan ‏@PhilipBrohan
@arfon Unfortunately your logbooks haven't been kept, but TNA has an account of your sinking: http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/SearchUI/Details?uri=C4114926

Arfon Smith ‏@arfon
@PhilipBrohan I shall go and have a read!

Caro 601 ‏@Caro601
@arfon Er, WWI, HMT Arfon. ;-)

Arfon Smith ‏@arfon
@Caro601 oh yeah. WWI. Ooops!


Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Randi on 20 August 2016, 16:45:31
 ;D ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: AvastMH on 20 August 2016, 17:31:48
 ;D ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Hanibal94 on 21 August 2016, 04:32:25
Got a little request for our original word game: Could somebody please enter something that ends with ar?
I got a good entry I've been hoping to add for a while, but never got a chance so far...
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Randi on 21 August 2016, 05:08:01
Done, done, and done ::) ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Hanibal94 on 21 August 2016, 13:33:14
Chicago's self-playing smart piano (https://www.youtube.com/embed/D9BOTXFCpQA)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: AvastMH on 21 August 2016, 13:52:48
Chicago's self-playing smart piano (https://www.youtube.com/embed/D9BOTXFCpQA)

Oh that was super!!! I'd happily miss my train for that  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: AvastMH on 23 August 2016, 19:41:25
Question for all you techies...I sent some emails onwards to may own email account. Mine didn't want to accept so many in one go so I'm now getting mailer-daemon 'failure to deliver' messages saying that they'll carry on sending the 'I can't send the message' details until the cows come home. Is there any way of deleting the mailer-daemon thing so it doesn't keep trying to send the messages please? :)
At the moment I've simply sent them directly to the junk bin :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Hanibal94 on 24 August 2016, 02:12:15
What's your email provider, Joan?
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: AvastMH on 24 August 2016, 06:55:49
btinternet.com  :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: studentforever on 24 August 2016, 08:47:53
You could try their on-line helpchat but I don't hold out much hope, if you can get through to a person (prepare for frustration!) they may be more helpful but they don't speak the same language as normal people. I speak from experience. I keep getting messages to say that 'my BT settings are out of date' but despite two tries on line and one on the phone I haven't tracked down any one who can tell me what's wrong and how to fix it. They're now only interested in the tech savvy despite our beloved government insisting that everything, including housing applications and job applications by the homeless, is done on line.

Good luck
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: AvastMH on 24 August 2016, 13:34:18
Thanks studentforever  :D
Oh dear - that doesn't sound good  :'( - I've tried speaking to them before but it's always been hopeless.  I'll give it a go and hope for the best, but perhaps the solution of dumping the messages into the junk mail will end up being the solution. I've never liked that mailer daemon thingy  :(
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Randi on 25 August 2016, 12:45:27
Quote from: Microsoft Excel blamed for gene study errors http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-37176926
Researchers trying to raise awareness of the issue claim that the spreadsheet software automatically converts the names of certain genes into dates.

Gene symbols like SEPT2 (Septin 2) were found to be altered to "September 2".

However, Microsoft, which released the first version of Excel in 1985, said the gene renaming errors can be overcome if users make alterations in the application settings.
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Craig on 25 August 2016, 13:55:01
I have this problem with genetic genealogy markers. Some markers have two numbers separate by a hyphen, which may be converted to a date if the numbers are in the right range. I will look at the settings to see how to avoid this. Thanks, Randi!
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Bob on 25 August 2016, 14:10:01
Select All, Format Cells, Text    ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Craig on 25 August 2016, 14:37:20
That works for typing the values, Bob, but not when I paste them into the sheet.
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Bob on 25 August 2016, 15:15:54
It should work if you do Paste Special and select 'Values' (or 'Text', depending on the source).

That works for typing the values, Bob, but not when I paste them into the sheet.
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Michael on 25 August 2016, 15:21:36
That works for typing the values, Bob, but not when I paste them into the sheet.

I think Paste Special values won't change the format of the cells, but I am too lazy busy transcribing to try it out. I leave it as an exercise for for you.  ;D ;D ;D ;D

When I was at university one of my math profs was saying that when he was a grad or post-doc student his prof presented a theory and left it as an exercise for the students to prove. The prof I had said he worked on it all weekend, but got nowhere. On the Monday, he showed his prof the work, who said, "Hmmmm. Keep going." So, he worked away and worked away, often showing his prof, who kept saying "Hmmmm. Keep going." (All the other students gave up.) Eventually, he got it. His prof was very excited. "I thought that was the case!" he shouted. "Finally, we proved it!"

His prof then published a paper proving the theorem and my prof, I think, got mentioned as a co-author.  ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Craig on 25 August 2016, 15:38:11
 ;D

When you paste from an external source you only have two options: Keep source formatting and Match destination formatting

The former converts to date format but the latter doesn't if you follow Bob's suggestion of formatting the cells as text before the paste.

That is not intuitive because the source formatting does not show any dates.

Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Maikel on 26 August 2016, 03:45:21
Navy Records Society posted this on Twitter.

Quote
Moving stuff: letters from Devonport 1906: 'Goodbye, Goodbye, I die I die, I can not stay in this unhappy world!'

https://twitter.com/NavyRecords/status/769057129676374016 (https://twitter.com/NavyRecords/status/769057129676374016)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: studentforever on 26 August 2016, 05:48:52
Poor writer and recipient. If he carried it through I hope he found the peace he craved and if not the help he needed.
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Randi on 26 August 2016, 14:35:58
North Atlantic 'weather bomb' tremor measured in Japan (http://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-37177575)
Quote
Seismologists in Japan have tracked, for the first time, a particular type of tiny vibration that wobbled through the Earth from the Atlantic seafloor.

It was started by a "weather bomb": the same low-pressure storm, off Greenland, which made UK headlines in late 2014.

Tiny tremors, of two types, constantly criss-cross the deep Earth from storms.
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Randi on 27 August 2016, 10:26:20
Probe set for science pass of Jupiter (http://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-37200337)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: AvastMH on 27 August 2016, 14:28:15
North Atlantic 'weather bomb' tremor measured in Japan (http://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-37177575)
Quote
Seismologists in Japan have tracked, for the first time, a particular type of tiny vibration that wobbled through the Earth from the Atlantic seafloor.

It was started by a "weather bomb": the same low-pressure storm, off Greenland, which made UK headlines in late 2014.

Tiny tremors, of two types, constantly criss-cross the deep Earth from storms.


That was fascinating - never thought that an underwater quake could cause so much trouble -but when you think about it it is logical :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: AvastMH on 27 August 2016, 14:31:50
Probe set for science pass of Jupiter (http://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-37200337)

Well one thing is for sure - if you can take enough books to enjoy the 5 year trip there - you'll need barely sugars on arrival. Why? Because at 12 bar pressure your ears will certainly be popping :D
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Craig on 27 August 2016, 15:04:15
You may be blind too. It was reported recently that astronauts who spent long periods in the International Space Station experienced a drop in their vision. Experts speculate that the lack of gravity in space puts pressure on the retina and causes it to change shape (or position).
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: AvastMH on 28 August 2016, 08:26:13
That's fascinating...and very worrying for sure. Can't think of what could be done about that. Time to invent gravity I guess.  Hey Mr Newton..can you fetch us one of your apples please?  ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Tegwen on 28 August 2016, 08:51:04
Hi

After several attempts I finally managed to get myself allocated an audit in Northern Ireland, which I did on Friday 26th of August. As you will all understand my main reason for wanting this work was so that I could visit HMS CAROLINE now that she is open to the public, so I took a day off work on the 25th & an early flight.

The Royal Navy museums have made a fantastic job of restoring & preserving her & made a really good compromise between allowing access & leaving her as undamaged as possible. The guns are all replica's in metal, but of course dont move. There are lifts which are surprisingly not intrusive, with the possible exception of the one from the waist deck up to the bridge.

Some might say that it is sacrelege to put a modern cafe in her, but to be able to drink coffee & eat cake in her mess deck is a real privelege which I for one enjoyed hugely.

Several spaces are taken up with exhibitions, for example on communications, torpedoes etc which are interesting to both adults & kids. There is also an excellent recorded commentary, which you operate by pointing it at signs located near points of interest. Really clear & accessible & an excellent addtion to the experience

I thought that they should take off the large "shed" known as the drill hall, to better restore her shape to as built, but instead they have kept it, and it is now a cinema showing a multimedia show about Jutland, which I think was very well done.

All in all it is one of the best museum experiences I have ever had and well worth the 13GBP entry fee.

I took a few (over 100!!) photographs of her. I have posted some of the best here. https://plus.google.com/collection/UZVxcB.

I wasnt able to take high powered flash or tripod so I apologise for the quality of some of the interior photos, particularly in the engine room.

I would appreciate any feedback either through this forum, or through google+ itself.

I hope you get just a fraction of the enjoyment I got from the experience.

All the best.

Keith
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Caro on 28 August 2016, 09:12:00
Thanks Keith! I haven't looked at all the photos yet, just the first 20 or so, but they look great.
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Tegwen on 28 August 2016, 09:44:11
Thanks Keith! I haven't looked at all the photos yet, just the first 20 or so, but they look great.

Thank you very much for your help in suggesting Google+. It was not exactly intuitive, but it seems to have worked well. I hope you enjoy the rest when you are ready.

All the best.

K
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Helen J on 28 August 2016, 10:51:27
Thanks, Keith.  Fascinating to see what some of the places and weapons which we transcribe actually look like.

In terms of accommodation I would have wanted to be at least a lieutenant - his cabin looks quite cosy.  Though the captain's quarters would have been even more acceptable!
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Michael on 28 August 2016, 10:55:30
I just looked at them all. Wonderful photos!!! It does look like it would be a very worthwhile visit.
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Tegwen on 28 August 2016, 11:10:57
Thanks, Keith.  Fascinating to see what some of the places and weapons which we transcribe actually look like.

In terms of accommodation I would have wanted to be at least a lieutenant - his cabin looks quite cosy.  Though the captain's quarters would have been even more acceptable!

Thanks Helen

The thing the photos cant show is smells. They have put some effort into recreating a couple of smells, in particular the Crew washroom genuinely smells of drains, while the galley smells of roast lunch. Very clever and adds to the feeling that one wouldnt want to be an ordinary seaman.

Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Bob on 28 August 2016, 12:05:55
An amazing restoration, and great photos!

I took a few (over 100!!) photographs of her. I have posted some of the best here. https://plus.google.com/collection/UZVxcB.
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: AvastMH on 28 August 2016, 12:51:15
Super pics! She looks glorious - few dabs of paint to go still, but what a ship :D
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: AvastMH on 28 August 2016, 12:54:28
Anyone else struggling to get into Google Chrome today please?  :-\
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Michael on 28 August 2016, 12:59:09
Anyone else struggling to get into Google Chrome today please?  :-\

I just got in. No problems...
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Hanibal94 on 28 August 2016, 13:34:29
Anyone else struggling to get into Google Chrome today please?  :-\

Is it a problem with your Internet connection or just with Chrome?

'fraid I can't help here because my new computer wouldn't install Chrome for some reason. I've had to switch to Firefox.
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: jil on 28 August 2016, 14:52:08
Great pics, Keith. I really need to get over to Belfast!
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Thursday Next on 28 August 2016, 15:29:33
Fantastic photos, Keith - thanks for posting.  I recently visited the SS Great Britain in Bristol - they also make use of smells!
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: AvastMH on 28 August 2016, 17:28:52
Anyone else struggling to get into Google Chrome today please?  :-\

Is it a problem with your Internet connection or just with Chrome?

'fraid I can't help here because my new computer wouldn't install Chrome for some reason. I've had to switch to Firefox.

Thanks, hanibal, for thinking about this. It was getting chrome to open at all. It reluctantly turned up in the late p.m. but it's still a bit of a mess.  Sorry to hear that you can't get it going at all. I got firefox up and running I'm happy to report :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Randi on 29 August 2016, 07:19:00
Key Royal Navy torpedo-boats celebrate 100 years (http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-37209724)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: jil on 29 August 2016, 14:01:06
 8)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Randi on 29 August 2016, 16:07:08
Early human ancestor Lucy 'died falling out of a tree' (http://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-37194764)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Craig on 29 August 2016, 19:44:16
Thanks, Randi.  8)

Lucy fell out of her tree and into ours.  ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: jil on 30 August 2016, 17:08:35
One of those random adverts that pops up while on line:
Quote
Fix your slow PC and speed it up. Try Avast Cleanup for free!

Joan, are you branching out into PC tuning?
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Randi on 30 August 2016, 17:10:46
 :o ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: AvastMH on 30 August 2016, 17:27:05
One of those random adverts that pops up while on line:
Quote
Fix your slow PC and speed it up. Try Avast Cleanup for free!

Joan, are you branching out into PC tuning?

Gah! I've been found out - hehehe!  8)
Then again if you trust me to tune your PC you really will need A Vast cleanup afterwards  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Craig on 30 August 2016, 19:28:39
Thereby creating more business for your subsidiary company, Tsava. Very clever, Joan.  8)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Michael on 30 August 2016, 19:46:06
Thereby creating more business for your subsidiary company, Tsava. Very clever, Joan.  8)

Do you clean Windows, too?
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Randi on 31 August 2016, 02:01:23
This is getting serious. Last night I dreamt that Joan had put an advertising link in a post :o :o :o
 ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Hanibal94 on 31 August 2016, 02:11:44
So many good puns in these last few posts!  ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: leelaht on 31 August 2016, 12:39:31
Thereby creating more business for your subsidiary company, Tsava. Very clever, Joan.  8)

Do you clean Windows, too?

what about polishing chrome  ;) ?
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Michael on 31 August 2016, 13:39:26
Will your work give you an Edge on the competition?
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Randi on 31 August 2016, 14:32:10
I suspect that, like any OWaholic, she is an intrepid internet explorer and excels at finding locations and ship names - and manages to keep a positive outlook.
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Michael on 31 August 2016, 15:00:45
 
I suspect that, like any OWaholic, she is an intrepid internet explorer and excels at finding locations and ship names - and manages to keep a positive outlook.

 ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Craig on 31 August 2016, 19:07:40
Certainly what she is doing is better than burying her face in a book all day, unless it's a log book, of course.
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Dean on 01 September 2016, 20:13:05
Thereby creating more business for your subsidiary company, Tsava. Very clever, Joan.  8)

Do you clean Windows, too?

Maybe she'll sing Opera for browsing?!   ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: AvastMH on 02 September 2016, 19:17:44
Thereby creating more business for your subsidiary company, Tsava. Very clever, Joan.  8)

Do you clean Windows, too?

Maybe she'll sing Opera for browsing?!   ;)

 ;D ;D ;D

Thanks to my (a)vast talents I'm happy to provide PC clean ups (aka a bucket of water), Window shines (aka a bucket of water), Chrome polishes (aka a bucket of water), and Opera browsing (contralto only, you may wish to put your ears under the surface of a bucket of water)...rates supplied upon request  ;) ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Randi on 03 September 2016, 01:59:27
 ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: jil on 03 September 2016, 05:14:45
 ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Craig on 03 September 2016, 13:08:28
All that water will be great for our floating point calculations, Joan!  ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Randi on 03 September 2016, 13:22:54
 :P :P :P
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: AvastMH on 03 September 2016, 13:39:43
 ;D ;D ;D
Glad to oblige!
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Helen J on 05 September 2016, 12:20:02
Philae has been found!  Apparently this will be very useful, as they'll now know where the information they got actually came from.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-37276221
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Randi on 05 September 2016, 12:56:37
Great news!
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: AvastMH on 05 September 2016, 13:15:36
That's amazing!  :o :D
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 05 September 2016, 17:04:53
Philae has been found!  Apparently this will be very useful, as they'll now know where the information they got actually came from.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-37276221

Interesting sidebar story.
They are now shipping glacial ice from the arctic to Antarctica for storage.
http://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-37245768 (http://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-37245768)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: studentforever on 06 September 2016, 02:42:43
Wrong service but fascinating pics of WW1 RAF/RFC which have only just been developed.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-37261175
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: jil on 06 September 2016, 13:18:30
Quote
Interesting sidebar story.
They are now shipping glacial ice from the arctic to Antarctica for storage.
http://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-37245768 (http://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-37245768)
8)  ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: jil on 06 September 2016, 13:22:57
Wrong service but fascinating pics of WW1 RAF/RFC which have only just been developed.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-37261175
8) They are on display only a few miles from me. I'll have to go and have a look.
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: AvastMH on 06 September 2016, 17:43:35
That's fascinating jil - I bet it would make a good visit - the pictures have been brought up so well :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: AvastMH on 08 September 2016, 18:33:12
Sobbering climate news from wildmonster on PenguinWatch:
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~#

Last month the U.S. government's National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA) released the report 2015 Sate Of The Climate. Antarctica penguins are featured in the report's highlights.

Read more in the links below (including a graph that shows "Populations of Adelie Penguins... have crashed as sea ice in their habitat disappears. Population of the warm-adapted Gentoo penguin... are climbing.") :

https://www.climate.gov/news-features/understanding-climate/2015-state-climate-warm-oceans-loss-sea-ice-behind-big-changes

https://www.climate.gov/news-features/features/2015-state-climate-highlights
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: studentforever on 09 September 2016, 04:58:32
This link gives info about some fascinating animal monitoring - including penguins, species unknown.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-37311404

However, if you could get your favourite Adelie's monitored you might find out a bit more of what is stressing them so much.
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Tegwen on 09 September 2016, 07:33:32
Just received a link to a fascinating piece of news.

The wreck of HMS Warrior has been found & filmed. You will remember that she was badly damaged at Jutland, but remained afloat & HMS Engadine tried to tow her home, but the water kept coming in and eventually Engadine took the surviving crew off before she sank.

You can seen the announcement here on the facebook page of the academic who lead the search. https://www.facebook.com/innes.mccartney/photos/?tab=album&album_id=746576922149556. You can find footage of the wreck from the ROV & other photos & links there.

May I again recommend my friend Rosie Parr's book, A Shy & Simple Warrior, published by Silverwood Books which describes HMS Warrior's battle & the subsequent attempts to save her.



Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: AvastMH on 09 September 2016, 08:28:27
That is fascinating. I wonder how many more ships of WW1 will finally be brought back to life in this way? It's quite amazing.
The book sounds like a fine story - thanks for mentioning it  :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: JamesAPrattIII on 09 September 2016, 22:52:27
On the RFC pictures in reply 1241 the aircraft in them look like BEs and Farman pushers of a training unit.  Chambers was shot down and killed with his observer on 15 may 1918 in France flying DH 9 C6177 of 49 Sqn by Lt Paul Wenzel of Jasta 6 his 4th of 10 victories. Note by early 1915 the RFC was using radio to direct artillery fire so by the battle of the Somme they wouldn't have been dropping messages to the artillerymen.

I am pleased to know they found the wreck of HMS Warrior. Note there is an article in Warship magazine on HMS Engadine during the battle of jutland
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: AvastMH on 10 September 2016, 15:38:06
Note by early 1915 the RFC was using radio to direct artillery fire so by the battle of the Somme they wouldn't have been dropping messages to the artillerymen.

I had no idea that radio played so early a part in the war... that's very interesting  :D
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 10 September 2016, 20:09:57

whilst doing a file clean up I came upon this email, not sure if I have posted it some time ago but if so then here it is again.

Ever see an iceberg from top to bottom?
This is awesome!
This came from a Rig Manager for Global Marine Drilling in St. Johns, Newfoundland. (via a few other posts)

They actually have to divert the path of these things away from the oil rig by towing them with ships!
Anyway, in this particular case the water was calm and the sun was almost directly overhead
so that the diver was able to get into the water and click this picture.
They estimated the weight at 300,000,000 tons.
 
(http://i.imgur.com/OBOuGVk.jpg)

Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Randi on 11 September 2016, 02:41:52
WOW!!!!

I know that most of the mass of an iceberg is underwater, but seeing it is a whole different matter!
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Hanibal94 on 11 September 2016, 03:07:37
Sorry, but it's fake:

http://www.snopes.com/photos/natural/iceberg.asp
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: AvastMH on 11 September 2016, 05:50:59
It presumably is close to what a berg would look like if such a picture were to be taken?  ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 11 September 2016, 06:40:09
Sorry, but it's fake:

http://www.snopes.com/photos/natural/iceberg.asp

Shucks  :o, it looked so good.   :-[
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Craig on 11 September 2016, 11:55:20
Maybe the debunking article is a fake   ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Hanibal94 on 11 September 2016, 12:42:45
Maybe you're fake, and you don't even know it!  ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: AvastMH on 11 September 2016, 14:45:04
I don't know about that - but I wish some of the icebergs were really fake, and not chunks of the arctic floating away from where they should be!  ;) :D
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Craig on 11 September 2016, 15:32:48
Maybe you're fake, and you don't even know it!  ;D

We're all simulations. You should know that  ;D

Icebergs flowing down by Newfoundland are normal. That's what sunk the Titanic. But I agree with you in general, Joan.
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: AvastMH on 11 September 2016, 18:48:12

Icebergs flowing down by Newfoundland are normal. That's what sunk the Titanic. But I agree with you in general, Joan.

Thanks Craig...I'll let the icebergs know to head back north!  ;) ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Craig on 11 September 2016, 20:06:44
There must be a Zooniverse project for that.  ;D

Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: AvastMH on 12 September 2016, 14:48:41
Oh there's one for spotting an iceberg, one for spotting flat icebergs, one for spotting pointy icebergs, icebergs on Mars,  icebergs with White Line ship paint on them (no - you didn't just read that - really you didn't!!), icebergs floating north from the south, icebergs floating south from the north, icebergs with volcanic dust mantles, icebergs in your fruit cocktail, icebergs....

I am going to be in so much trouble for this one  ::) ::) ::) ( ;D)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Helen J on 12 September 2016, 15:42:25
We'll back you up Joan!
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Caro on 12 September 2016, 15:57:32
https://twitter.com/oldweather/status/775421191981064192

In case you have trouble accessing Twitter ...

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/X7dWP81gb6atoCTQQzfrLzSOrK2tRtKLjP-BZ9OYShnuGH4kXvTCWLywRavfm5lUAnnjMUQ3ujkyHwXdtFRP5o671cdncJ3iQiuERUUaNhjHa39sIi_V81oD-Uw23WJSAghKDXC5eTJCiFEQhBynhAS1NFWi5Czu5pkWvQDZkXe07V11doIAceHxr7U_V4d9_pz4vXHK8kG9rgXIA1OGhApXXm1CqK1BaOQi4K34PRxRIbtouJHRVTous0yDRDDzEP0AGJQpSYoesJ5DkUofeu-oueLVY_j1AQlgnonnyq9Q5HaJdoZvxV_WcjVylq58uSByn3LOpG170ubz55BEv7kK5KZXUt_pqP5CChoW8gh4hv7oMj-UP94PFsV2U_R5Xyg9ZCWfZcaWIXStyAQDP9EyvC6y1yuAOBSgd7qivSttpuCIJcmxv21-tyHebOGMCha-5slCeNVz7FU4Rsl_3tAGsTzD0KYQY7U4QreDZL2cKKUS46XkDfogwa-E25oeAsPL6gNpBaQz9ZkJIopeejNpffia1L9uZHBZmuH-rf3JjqE_okEXFHSV5NysUReeUAkV-XHX9RJzxZWlYJqDZgsCaBq_DuPvo_yl4B5ngHBwikjMcA=w623-h686-no)

 :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Bob on 12 September 2016, 17:00:59
 8)

Quote
If you could lift this boat out of the water, and pump the water out, it would probably float.
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Randi on 12 September 2016, 17:11:16
https://twitter.com/oldweather/status/775421191981064192

In case you have trouble accessing Twitter ...

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/X7dWP81gb6atoCTQQzfrLzSOrK2tRtKLjP-BZ9OYShnuGH4kXvTCWLywRavfm5lUAnnjMUQ3ujkyHwXdtFRP5o671cdncJ3iQiuERUUaNhjHa39sIi_V81oD-Uw23WJSAghKDXC5eTJCiFEQhBynhAS1NFWi5Czu5pkWvQDZkXe07V11doIAceHxr7U_V4d9_pz4vXHK8kG9rgXIA1OGhApXXm1CqK1BaOQi4K34PRxRIbtouJHRVTous0yDRDDzEP0AGJQpSYoesJ5DkUofeu-oueLVY_j1AQlgnonnyq9Q5HaJdoZvxV_WcjVylq58uSByn3LOpG170ubz55BEv7kK5KZXUt_pqP5CChoW8gh4hv7oMj-UP94PFsV2U_R5Xyg9ZCWfZcaWIXStyAQDP9EyvC6y1yuAOBSgd7qivSttpuCIJcmxv21-tyHebOGMCha-5slCeNVz7FU4Rsl_3tAGsTzD0KYQY7U4QreDZL2cKKUS46XkDfogwa-E25oeAsPL6gNpBaQz9ZkJIopeejNpffia1L9uZHBZmuH-rf3JjqE_okEXFHSV5NysUReeUAkV-XHX9RJzxZWlYJqDZgsCaBq_DuPvo_yl4B5ngHBwikjMcA=w623-h686-no)

 :)


 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: AvastMH on 12 September 2016, 17:28:19
Yeh - at least if the ink looks washed out the Terror will have a good reason for it. Cor - it's a great name to be working on  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Helen J on 13 September 2016, 08:02:47
Great tweet, Caro!
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Caro on 13 September 2016, 10:37:03
It is, but it's not mine. ;)
I tweet from my own account, not @oldweather. 
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: studentforever on 13 September 2016, 12:24:31
Compare the voyage of the Terror with this.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-37351271

Who says global warming is a myth!!
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Hanibal94 on 13 September 2016, 12:47:19
Who says global warming is a myth!!

Not me, but one of my grandfathers does, sadly - he's basically Donald Trump plus 15 years and minus the hair.  :(
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Helen J on 13 September 2016, 13:13:37
And here in the UK today has been the hottest day of the whole year, and the hottest September day for 100 years - something is definitely up!
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: AvastMH on 13 September 2016, 14:40:19
They didn't reach Oxford, but there were some huge lighting storms showing on the met office rainfall radar during today  :o
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Thursday Next on 13 September 2016, 15:14:13
They may not have reached Oxford, but we had quite a thunderstorm in the Exeter area this afternoon!
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: studentforever on 13 September 2016, 15:15:07
According to the radio, lightening hit the Manchester trams and a European Football Match was abandoned on safety ground, surface water and transport disruption. However, in the West of Scotland it was dull all day with intermittent rain. Temp in the high teens. What heatwave!!

The growing season is definitely changing, blackberry season just about over, grass still growing well and I'm sure that spring is earlier as well. I feel that of late the summers have been cooler and the winters warmer but this may be a short lived trend.
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 13 September 2016, 17:10:45
Missed most of the rain earlier this morning.

http://imgur.com/EiZbZV5
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: AvastMH on 13 September 2016, 17:59:31
Oooo - that looks like torrential stuff Stuart  :o
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Caro on 14 September 2016, 04:17:34
Happy birthday Randi!   :-*
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: propriome on 14 September 2016, 04:43:32
:D :D HAPPY BIRTHDAY RANDI! :D :D
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 14 September 2016, 05:10:22
Ditto Randi from DownUnder.
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Hanibal94 on 14 September 2016, 05:30:30
Happy Birthday Randi!
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: AvastMH on 14 September 2016, 05:47:32
Happy Birthday Randi!

(http://i.imgur.com/oWwcAzQ.png)

Have a great day

 ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Craig on 14 September 2016, 06:08:28
All the best, Randi.
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Helen J on 14 September 2016, 07:06:16
Happy birthday, Randi - here's to another happy year of herding the cats of OW ....
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Bob on 14 September 2016, 07:39:53
Happy Birthday, Randi!  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Dean on 14 September 2016, 09:48:12
Happy Birthday, Randi!!!!!!



(http://i.imgur.com/Pe4VikM.jpg)


(http://i.imgur.com/aVXZ1jZ.jpg)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Thursday Next on 14 September 2016, 14:38:30
Happy Birthday, Randi!
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Randi on 14 September 2016, 15:34:01
Thank you, everyone !



A word of explanation...
I am in the process of moving from France back to the US (Pittsburgh).
So until I find an apartment and get a new computer (not that I don't love the one I have, but it is old and heavy so I am leaving it behind :() internet access and time for OW will both be rather limited :'( :'( :'(
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: jil on 14 September 2016, 17:40:23
Hope you had a good birthday, Randi! Good luck with the move.
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: AvastMH on 14 September 2016, 18:30:02
Bon voyage Randi!!!  :) :) We'll miss you while you're travelling  :'( :'(
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Michael on 14 September 2016, 21:08:50
Happy Birthday, Randi!!!

and

I hope your move to the "City of Bridges" goes well.

I also hope the culture shock won't be too much.  ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: JamesAPrattIII on 14 September 2016, 22:21:38
I have some errata for reply 12150 avastMH:
It seems the RFC first used the radio to spot for artillery in September 1914 according to War in the Air the RAF official history on archive.org. The Germans and Austrians started using radio this way in early 1915. These were morse code radios that could only send and not receive. You had an antenna in the RFC that the observer wound roll out while in the air and he had better roll it in when finished because it could get tangled around the plane.
 In 1916 the Germans designed a radio set that could both send and receive morse. The Allies could only send until the end of the war. In the last months of 1918 RAF pilots flying home defense fighters were equipped voice radio recievers for fight direction. You could hear but couldn't talk the people on the ground from what I have heard sometimes played records for the pilots to listen too. The germans also had a few home defense fighters fitted with radio recievers as well in the last months of the war and I believe during tests the ground crews would play records for the pilots to listen too. I believe these men are the first radio DJs. The US was doing tests with voice radios that would both send and receive towards the end of the war but they were too unreliable for service use.

I hope this is of some interest.
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: AvastMH on 15 September 2016, 08:43:07
Well I say it's very interesting. I'd love to know what was on the record list for broadcasts to the airmen. It sounds a little flippant - but who knows because they might have used the music as some sort of code?   The possibility of dying consequent to rolling out the radio aeriel is horrifying though. And, once again, German ingenuity was ahead of us  :o
Thanks James  :D
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: AvastMH on 15 September 2016, 08:46:28
Sigh - in fact deepest sigh - looks like BT have managed to let out some spurious emails purporting to be from me (although even the email address looks dodgy). If you receive an email from me it is always going to be spurious unless I've forewarned you that I'm sending one via a personal message here. My apologies for the inconvenience.
Note to self - sack BT as internet provider  ::)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Michael on 15 September 2016, 12:39:43
Further to the finding of HMS Terror (http://www.cbc.ca/radio/thecurrent/the-current-for-september-15-2016-1.3763076/inuit-demand-input-over-division-of-franklin-expedition-artifacts-1.3763319). There was an interview on CBC Radio this morning (look for the blue listen button on the page just under the photo of the captain). There are other stories included as well.
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Helen J on 15 September 2016, 13:10:55
Thanks Michael, that was an interesting listen.  The Inuit dimension was one I hadn't really thought of - I hope a solution can be found which keeps everyone happy.
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Hanibal94 on 16 September 2016, 14:25:03
Important Zooniverse message on email preferences:

https://daily.zooniverse.org/2016/09/16/emails-from-the-zooniverse/
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: AvastMH on 16 September 2016, 14:54:14
Thank you for posting this hanibal.   :D    It is important..and well worth reviewing one's email selection  :D  I got the 'you're out' message today because I didn't bother reading that message last week - oops!  :-[  :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Craig on 16 September 2016, 17:28:52
Personally, I am quite happy not to be bothered about all the new projects. If I want to find out all I have to do is visit the Z page.
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Dean on 16 September 2016, 19:16:56
Sigh - in fact deepest sigh - looks like BT have managed to let out some spurious emails purporting to be from me (although even the email address looks dodgy). If you receive an email from me it is always going to be spurious unless I've forewarned you that I'm sending one via a personal message here. My apologies for the inconvenience.
Note to self - sack BT as internet provider  ::)

I have set my account here so that if one of you sends me a PM - THEN I get an email telling me to come look for it.

That seems to have worked well for a couple years.

I was almost certain yours was 'bad' Joan, so I 'isolated it before opening & it was a 'bad' one.   ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: JamesAPrattIII on 16 September 2016, 21:57:23
reply 12193 AvastMH on the records played to the pilots with the early voice radio receivers I really couldn't say which ones probably what ever was available. I believe the British could have gotten voice radio receivers in use months earlier both the Royal Navy objected that because they thought it would jam the radio waves they were using.
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 17 September 2016, 02:37:31
Just watched 'The lost tools of Henry Hokes' on the Australian ABC.
Funny, I nearly fell of my perch.   ;D  ;D  ;D  ;D

If you can get it watch it, just do it.  ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Michael on 17 September 2016, 20:39:27
One of our friends, a whale biologist, stayed with us for a few days after spending time on the waters around the San Juan Islands (just south of Victoria, in US waters) and in the Strait of Juan de Fuca. Out of her hundreds, literally, of photos of killer whales, she left us about twenty, some of which are here (https://www.dropbox.com/sh/8nlw1zvfj3y6xo6/AAAAkSoHWHN1O756B5jcx636a?dl=0). You don't need a dropbox account to view them and they are high resolution so they look very good on full screen.
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Bob on 17 September 2016, 23:10:35
Nice pictures!  8)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: AvastMH on 18 September 2016, 05:32:27
Just watched 'The lost tools of Henry Hokes' on the Australian ABC.
Funny, I nearly fell of my perch.   ;D  ;D  ;D  ;D

If you can get it watch it, just do it.  ;)

I looked him upon youtube and got the Excuse machine - I need one - and a fit cyclist to run it often  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: AvastMH on 18 September 2016, 05:36:52
One of our friends, a whale biologist, stayed with us for a few days after spending time on the waters around the San Juan Islands (just south of Victoria, in US waters) and in the Strait of Juan de Fuca. Out of her hundreds, literally, of photos of killer whales, she left us about twenty, some of which are here (https://www.dropbox.com/sh/8nlw1zvfj3y6xo6/AAAAkSoHWHN1O756B5jcx636a?dl=0). You don't need a dropbox account to view them and they are high resolution so they look very good on full screen.

Super pictures. I guess that the smaller fins are junior killers.  :D
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: AvastMH on 18 September 2016, 06:03:08
I tripped over a site where you can report icebergs around Newfoundland http://www.icebergfinder.com/report-a-berg.aspx

and that led to the discovery of  'Twillingate magic with the Unscripted Festival' which has a blog-post here: http://www.newfoundlandlabrador.com/TheLatest/BlogPost/453  I'd love to visit that :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: jil on 18 September 2016, 14:56:33
One of our friends, a whale biologist, stayed with us for a few days after spending time on the waters around the San Juan Islands (just south of Victoria, in US waters) and in the Strait of Juan de Fuca. Out of her hundreds, literally, of photos of killer whales, she left us about twenty, some of which are here (https://www.dropbox.com/sh/8nlw1zvfj3y6xo6/AAAAkSoHWHN1O756B5jcx636a?dl=0). You don't need a dropbox account to view them and they are high resolution so they look very good on full screen.
Great pics!
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 18 September 2016, 16:13:30
I tripped over a site where you can report icebergs around Newfoundland http://www.icebergfinder.com/report-a-berg.aspx

and that led to the discovery of  'Twillingate magic with the Unscripted Festival' which has a blog-post here: http://www.newfoundlandlabrador.com/TheLatest/BlogPost/453  I'd love to visit that :)

The photographer (Denis Minty) mentioned at the Twilligate festival was the same one as was the ships photographer on the Northwest Passage Expedition I went on.
Small world.
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: AvastMH on 18 September 2016, 16:16:26
It is indeed Stuart - what a happy co-incidence then  :D  his work is wonderful.  :D
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 18 September 2016, 16:23:58
Good evening Joan.
Has the weather settled down yet?
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: AvastMH on 18 September 2016, 17:48:57
Yes indeed it has. I'm not sure if the lower half of Southern England has been dredged back out of the Channel yet after being washed down there on Thursday night.  ::)  It has moved into Autumnal temperatures at last. Warm in the sunshine and freezing on a night.

Except in mid North Wales which is wet as usual  ;) ;) ;D

(http://i.imgur.com/imi6lCT.png)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 18 September 2016, 21:14:14
Looks like rain over Jil's house
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: jil on 19 September 2016, 03:48:31
Yes it was. But that nice overnight rain that stops before dawn!
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Helen J on 19 September 2016, 07:27:46
Probably because it was heading east to lurk over my house .... :(
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: AvastMH on 19 September 2016, 17:46:42
Yes it was. But that nice overnight rain that stops before dawn!

Glad you enjoyed that rain then jil  :D
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: AvastMH on 19 September 2016, 17:47:02
Probably because it was heading east to lurk over my house .... :(

Oopsie!  :( :( :(
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Hanibal94 on 23 September 2016, 14:47:30
Good evening OW.

Once again, the greatest prizes in the world, the Ig Nobel Prizes, have been awarded.
This year's winners are:

Reproduction Prize - The late Ahmed Shafik, for testing the effects of wearing polyester, cotton, or wool trousers on the sex life of rats.

Economics Prize - Mark Avis and colleagues, for assessing the perceived personalities of rocks, from a sales and marketing perspective.

Physics Prize - Gabor Horvath and colleagues, for discovering why white-haired horses are the most horsefly-proof horses, and for discovering why dragonflies are fatally attracted to black tombstones.

Chemistry Prize - Volkswagen, for solving the problem of excessive automobile pollution emissions by automatically, electromechanically producing fewer emissions whenever the cars are being tested.

Medicine Prize - Christoph Helmchen and colleagues, for discovering that if you have an itch on the left side of your body, you can relieve it by looking into a mirror and scratching the right side of your body (and vice versa).

Psychology Prize - Evelyne Debey and colleagues, for asking a thousand liars how often they lie, and for deciding whether to believe those answers.

Peace Prize - Gordon Pennycook and colleagues, for their scholarly study called "On the Reception and Detection of Pseudo-Profound Bullshit".

Biology Prize - Awarded jointly to: Charles Foster, for living in the wild as, at different times, a badger, an otter, a deer, a fox, and a bird; and to Thomas Thwaites, for creating prosthetic extensions of his limbs that allowed him to move in the manner of, and spend time roaming hills in the company of, goats.

Literature Prize - Fredrik Sjoberg, for his three-volume autobiographical work about the pleasures of collecting flies that are dead, and flies that are not yet dead.

Perception Prize - Atsuki Higashiyama and Kohei Adachi, for investigating whether things look different when you bend over and view them between your legs.



Source: http://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-37443204
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Craig on 23 September 2016, 16:07:01
Please don't keep us in suspense, Hanibal. What was the outcome of the Perception investigation? I know I could try this myself but it wouldn't be a controlled, randomized study. And it certainly couldn't even be single blind. 
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: AvastMH on 23 September 2016, 16:45:54
I sometimes wonder about the state of my fellow human's minds  :o ::) ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: studentforever on 23 September 2016, 16:58:32
On a personal level I am no longer able to view the world that way (the joys of old age) so it will remain forever mysterious.
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Thursday Next on 24 September 2016, 15:02:03
I don't think you're missing much Rosemary - apart from the obvious difference that everything is upside down, it otherwise seems the same to me!

And for all that we might laugh, the medicine one is actually very useful for someone with a limb in a plaster cast, or with one arm immobilized for some reason.
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 24 September 2016, 19:41:36
Look downunder for the Forbes Floods.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-09-25/forbes-warned-to-evacuate-as-town-fears-economic-losses/7875158 (http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-09-25/forbes-warned-to-evacuate-as-town-fears-economic-losses/7875158)

I am expecting snow for next weekends Treg muster in the Snowy Mountains
(Treg Muster is a gathering if VW Touareg cars from around mainly the south eastern Australia.)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: AvastMH on 25 September 2016, 05:26:03
Well the weather sounds to be absolutely horrid down with you Stuart. That flood is enormous.  :o And snow next weekend? Isn't that a bit late?  :-\
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Hanibal94 on 27 September 2016, 08:38:11
Hello all.

Got some great news: I have passed the last exam of my studies, and am on track to receive my Bachelor of Science.
The graduation ceremony will take place on October 22nd - that's where I'll get the pretty piece of paper to hang on my wall.
And as I mentioned earlier, I already got a job lined up, starting October 4th.

Wow... Can't believe I'm pretty much done with formal education, and at 22 too. Such a big change in life, and I never really saw it coming - it just kinda happened.
Still, it's been a good three years. I've learned a lot and experienced a lot, and I feel confident that this is the right career for me.

I will continue to work on OW till I have done all I could, of course, although my contribution rate might drop - as I am no longer a student, I won't be getting nearly as many short days or days off anymore.
But the end is in sight, so I ain't quitting now!
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: propriome on 27 September 2016, 09:36:19
:) :) Congrats Hanibal! :) :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Maikel on 27 September 2016, 09:52:51
Well done, congratulations! :D
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Craig on 27 September 2016, 10:08:03
Wonderful news, Hanibal! I am not at all surprised that you succeeded in your studies based on your dedication and perseverance you have demonstrated in OW.
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Bob on 27 September 2016, 11:16:02
 8) 8) 8)

Congratulations!

Got some great news: I have passed the last exam of my studies, and am on track to receive my Bachelor of Science.
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: jil on 27 September 2016, 12:02:32
Congratulations, Hanibal! Good luck with the job!
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Hurlock on 27 September 2016, 12:17:28
Well done
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: studentforever on 27 September 2016, 12:29:21
Congratulations. Good luck in the new job and do drop into the forum from time to time even if your transcription rate falls off.
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Caro on 27 September 2016, 13:36:41
Well done, Hanibal. Congratulations!
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Thursday Next on 27 September 2016, 14:45:48
Congratulations, Hanibal!  And good luck in your new job!
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: AvastMH on 27 September 2016, 15:43:37
Brilliant news hanibal  ;D

(http://i.imgur.com/Iclcrh1.png?1)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Michael on 27 September 2016, 17:19:37
Well done!

Hooray for you, Hanibal! I had no doubt that  this day would come. Your hard word work, brilliance and dedication have finally been rewarded. Congratulations!
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 27 September 2016, 18:02:56
Great work Hanibal.
Whilst (quote) Wow... Can't believe I'm pretty much done with formal education, and at 22 too. (end quote) you should never stop learning, even when you get to 23.   ;D  ;D
Regards
Stuart
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 28 September 2016, 05:25:11
South Australia, an area 8x the size of England has had a power blackout not expected to be fixed for at least 15 hrs.

http://www.9news.com.au/national/2016/09/28/05/40/south-australia-braces-for-one-of-the-most-extreme-weather-systems-in-decades (http://www.9news.com.au/national/2016/09/28/05/40/south-australia-braces-for-one-of-the-most-extreme-weather-systems-in-decades)

Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Helen J on 28 September 2016, 07:17:56
Many congratulations, hanibal - graduation, new job - it's all happening.  It's a reward for all your hard work and dedication - which we see here on OW and which I'm sure you've applied to your studying too.
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Hanibal94 on 28 September 2016, 09:57:33
Thanks for the congratulations, everyone!  :)

I did indeed show a lot of dedication and perseverance during my studies, and there were some rather difficult bits - such as oral exams!
But I made it through everything, and now I can look forward to never having any exams again. Hurrah!

... do drop into the forum from time to time even if your transcription rate falls off.

Oh, I definitely will. In fact, I'm pretty sure I'll be on this forum until it is shut down (Sad but inevitable).

Whilst (quote) Wow... Can't believe I'm pretty much done with formal education, and at 22 too. (end quote) you should never stop learning, even when you get to 23.   ;D  ;D

Of course I won't stop learning - it's just that I'm done with formal education, i.e. fixed courses and exams and stuff.
In this time and age, reaching that point at 22 is quite rare, that's why I was pointing it out.



Thanks for the custom picture, Joan - that was really well done!
I won't be wearing a tweed work suit, though - or any suit at all, since this is IT and I'm just gonna be programming, not interacting with clients.
Plus, during my interview with the company, the CEO joined in for the latter half - and he was wearing jeans, sneakers and a hoodie!
So yeah, guess I don't have to worry about dress code there, which is great.
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: AvastMH on 28 September 2016, 14:37:17
 ;D  (I rather thought that the IT folk thrive on a sort of anti-dress code - allows the brain matter to work unfettered by the worries of how straight your tie is  ;) )

Glad you enjoyed the MLPs. Well done again. It's great never to have to face and exam again (boo hiss hate them), but as you say there's a lot more learning ahead. Good luck! ;) :D
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Dean on 29 September 2016, 16:51:01
Congrats Hanibal!!!!

The studying may end but the lessons continue throughout life!

Enjoy and be well!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: elizabeth on 29 September 2016, 17:12:49
 :D  I did I am back on,  but darn it's time to go to work.  see you all later!   I am  back  8) 8)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Craig on 30 September 2016, 18:48:50
It's quiet around here without Randi, don't you think?   :(
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: propriome on 30 September 2016, 18:58:14
Definitely so! :(
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: AvastMH on 30 September 2016, 19:08:47
:D  I did I am back on,  but darn it's time to go to work.  see you all later!   I am  back  8) 8)

Hi Elizabeth!! Nice to see you back here amongst the Jolly Tars of OldWeather  :D :D :D
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: AvastMH on 30 September 2016, 19:51:40
It's quiet around here without Randi, don't you think?   :(

I miss her too  :(   Feels weird without her here every day  (well actually about every our of every day!).


I think, like in Peter Pan with Tinkerbell, we should all clap our hands and say that we believe in moderators called Randi....

(http://i.imgur.com/YmMhTj0.gif?1)

Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Craig on 30 September 2016, 20:17:26
 ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Michael on 01 October 2016, 01:14:45
A day without Randi is a day without sunshine.  :'(
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Hanibal94 on 01 October 2016, 02:41:16
Yeah, I miss Randi too. Hope she comes back soon.
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: studentforever on 01 October 2016, 05:21:37
Let's hope her WiFi comes back on stream wherever she settles.
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: AvastMH on 01 October 2016, 14:09:44
South Australia, an area 8x the size of England has had a power blackout not expected to be fixed for at least 15 hrs.

http://www.9news.com.au/national/2016/09/28/05/40/south-australia-braces-for-one-of-the-most-extreme-weather-systems-in-decades (http://www.9news.com.au/national/2016/09/28/05/40/south-australia-braces-for-one-of-the-most-extreme-weather-systems-in-decades)

Is South Australia back up and working Stuart?  :o
Souned like a very dramatic outage  :-[
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Bob on 01 October 2016, 14:20:09
This was posted over on the Talk forum:  ;)

https://www.zooniverse.org/projects/zooniverse/old-weather/talk/148/99440

Quote
This Spring http://crowdandcloud.org will be doing a 4-part television series on PBS (a U.S.-based public television station) focused on citizen science. One of the episodes will highlight Old Weather. We will definitely post here once we know the dates and how to view.

The Crowd&Cloud team is interested in doing some social media posts leading up to the show date. This week we received an email from them asking the following:

"Would any oldWeather volunteers [including mods of course] be interested in creating a 10 second video selfie saying something along the lines of: ?I?m [your name] and I do Old Weather citizen science through Zooniverse. I live in [where you live] and my PBS station is [insert your local PBS station]!" Share your excitement! Here is an example: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/16330566/Noah_CoCoRaHS_RockyMtnPBS.mp4"

They have a rather short timeline. If you're interested, post here right away. No limits in how many we send their way -- the more the merrier.

Thank you! -Laura
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: AvastMH on 01 October 2016, 15:23:57
Well spotted Bob! Thanks so much for posting over here. I've said 'yes' though the BBC will have to do as the PBS over here on the Eatern Shore of The Pond.

Now what can you say in 10 seconds?    ::) :o  ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Craig on 01 October 2016, 18:26:13
Did you ever hear those people who do the 1 minute histories? So 1/6 of that. You should easily be able to recite the names of all our US ships  ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: AvastMH on 02 October 2016, 05:12:37
Did you ever hear those people who do the 1 minute histories? So 1/6 of that. You should easily be able to recite the names of all our US ships  ;D

I'll get practising Craig
 ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Dean on 02 October 2016, 19:20:09
I'll take a shot at it. Who, what, when, where, and to whom sent?! ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 03 October 2016, 00:34:45
South Australia, an area 8x the size of England has had a power blackout not expected to be fixed for at least 15 hrs.

http://www.9news.com.au/national/2016/09/28/05/40/south-australia-braces-for-one-of-the-most-extreme-weather-systems-in-decades (http://www.9news.com.au/national/2016/09/28/05/40/south-australia-braces-for-one-of-the-most-extreme-weather-systems-in-decades)

Is South Australia back up and working Stuart?  :o
Souned like a very dramatic poutage  :-[

SA is still having major flooding problems.
High wind took out quite a number of High Voltage Towers (bent them over to the ground) which blew out a number of relays.
Most big cities and towns have power but in area most of the state is still down.

Out stupid Prime Minister is trying to blame renewable energy for the problem. Go figure?
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: studentforever on 03 October 2016, 04:53:39
I believe the Flat Earth Society still has members!
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: AvastMH on 03 October 2016, 13:48:12
"Out stupid Prime Minister is trying to blame renewable energy for the problem. Go figure? "
"I believe the Flat Earth Society still has members!"

 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: elizabeth on 04 October 2016, 14:11:14
I believe the Flat Earth Society still has members!
   :) Yes they do! 
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Michael on 05 October 2016, 02:21:13
Our stupid Prime Minister is trying to blame renewable energy for the problem. Go figure?

The reason is that South Australia is using wind to generate electricity instead of using coal. Coal is heavier than wind, so it follows that electricity made by coal must be heavier than electricity made by wind. Wind can blow over light things, and not heavy things, so it follows that towers carrying light electrons would be more susceptible to blowing over than if they were carrying heavy electrons. Does that make sense. Will the Prime Minister go for this explanation, or have I been in this country too long?   :o
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 05 October 2016, 02:48:10
I believe the Flat Earth Society still has members!
   :) Yes they do!

Should you wish to join them  ::)
https://www.theflatearthsociety.org/home/index.php/about-the-society/joining-the-society (https://www.theflatearthsociety.org/home/index.php/about-the-society/joining-the-society)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Craig on 05 October 2016, 11:14:16
Our stupid Prime Minister is trying to blame renewable energy for the problem. Go figure?

The reason is that South Australia is using wind to generate electricity instead of using coal. Coal is heavier than wind, so it follows that electricity made by coal must be heavier than electricity made by wind. Wind can blow over light things, and not heavy things, so it follows that towers carrying light electrons would be more susceptible to blowing over than if they were carrying heavy electrons. Does that make sense. Will the Prime Minister go for this explanation, or have I been in this country too long?   :o

 ;D ;D ;D  The PM could use you as minister of science and spin, Michael.
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Thursday Next on 05 October 2016, 15:19:34
Not sure how much time I've now wasted browsing the Flat Earth Society's website!  ::)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: AvastMH on 05 October 2016, 17:24:00
For political reasons and niceness I shouldn't mention that 'Gravity as a theory is false. Objects simply fall.' It would also demoralise the Higgs Hunters terribly  ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Craig on 05 October 2016, 19:05:02
Not to mention our climate modelers.   ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Michael on 06 October 2016, 04:01:35
Gravity:

not just a theory, it's the law!   ;D

This probably disqualifies me as the PM's science advisor.  :'(
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Craig on 06 October 2016, 08:36:47
Don't worry, Michael. We won't tell him that you harbor these heretical ideas.  ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: AvastMH on 06 October 2016, 12:32:47
 ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: AvastMH on 11 October 2016, 12:34:37
Guess who is 6 years old tomorrOW? This time next year we will have reached the developmental stage called 'The Age of Reason'  ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: jil on 11 October 2016, 12:47:03
 8)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: leelaht on 11 October 2016, 12:54:29
Guess who is 6 years old tomorrOW? This time next year we will have reached the developmental stage called 'The Age of Reason'  ;D

I thought we were the Classical Era  ;)

Or maybe we're just a class act?
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: AvastMH on 11 October 2016, 14:01:56
Guess who is 6 years old tomorrOW? This time next year we will have reached the developmental stage called 'The Age of Reason'  ;D

I thought we were the Classical Era  ;)

Or maybe we're just a class act?

I'll second both of those  :D
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: AvastMH on 12 October 2016, 13:03:45
(http://i.imgur.com/p3BjUa8.png)

 :D :D :D
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Michael on 12 October 2016, 13:05:11
 ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Hanibal94 on 12 October 2016, 13:20:49
Bravo!
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Craig on 12 October 2016, 15:59:49
Wonderful, Joan!  8) 8) 8)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Bob on 12 October 2016, 17:21:57
Nice!  8) 8) 8)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Caro on 12 October 2016, 18:01:54
Happy birthday Old Weather!  ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 13 October 2016, 00:02:38
I know how to see who is on the forum (only me at the moment), but is there anyway I can see who is working on the ship at the same time as me?
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Maikel on 13 October 2016, 03:42:11
Simple answer, no, you can't. :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 13 October 2016, 04:06:04
Simple answer, no, you can't. :)

Thought so, but you guys have come up with some amazing answers/solutions in the past.  ;)

(I occasionally miss some pages and just wanted to know why. )
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Craig on 13 October 2016, 06:53:50
You can do a screen capture of the top 12 transcribers of the ship and then compare it to the the real one 5 or 10 minutes later.
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Helen J on 13 October 2016, 09:10:42
Belated congratulation to us, and to Joan for her wonderful musical tribute.  Perhaps we should be putting together an OW choir?
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: AvastMH on 13 October 2016, 12:47:18
Belated congratulation to us, and to Joan for her wonderful musical tribute.  Perhaps we should be putting together an OW choir?

Well that would be interesting :D getting us altogether should be interesting too  ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: AvastMH on 13 October 2016, 12:55:33
You can do a screen capture of the top 12 transcribers of the ship and then compare it to the the real one 5 or 10 minutes later.

I agree that this is probably the most reliable way. I think we did once agree to messages on the ship's forum page to say when we were on line and working on the ship. Which is fine if only folks visiting the forum work on it. Then again the other method might get caught out by non-top-twelvers doing some work.  :-\
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Michael on 14 October 2016, 13:54:57
Help! I've been away in Australia visiting my daughter  :) and it's been 25 days since I've done any transcribing  :'( :'( :'(.

I clicked on my Bookmark to Transcribe Patterson and a page with lots of numbers came up. Am I supposed to write them down and mail them in, or do I phone the numbers into a machine somewhere?  It's been so long; I can't remember what I'm supposed to do! ;) ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: AvastMH on 14 October 2016, 14:30:54
Help! I've been away in Australia visiting my daughter  :) and it's been 25 days since I've done any transcribing  :'( :'( :'(.

I clicked on my Bookmark to Transcribe Patterson and a page with lots of numbers came up. Am I supposed to write them down and mail them in, or do I phone the numbers into a machine somewhere?  It's been so long; I can't remember what I'm supposed to do! ;) ;D ;D ;D

The OW centre in your brain is simply feeling lonely. Best treatment is to do a straight 24 hour stint to refresh your system.  ;D

Welcome back Michael!  ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Michael on 14 October 2016, 14:38:54
The OW centre in your brain is simply feeling lonely. Best treatment is to do a straight 24 hour stint to refresh your system.  ;D

Welcome back Michael!  ;D

It's good to be back transcribing again. I admit I had to look up a few of the more exotic hotkeys, but they seem to be top of mind again now that I have a few pages under my belt.  :)

Yesterday at the gym it took me several seconds to remember the combination to my lock. Also, my usual set of exercises proved to be extremely difficult. How much the body and brain deteriorate after three weeks of little use!  :'(
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: AvastMH on 14 October 2016, 14:47:15
Yesterday at the gym it took me several seconds to remember the combination to my lock. Also, my usual set of exercises proved to be extremely difficult. How much the body and brain deteriorate after three weeks of little use!  :'(

I sympathise Michael. I find the same shortness of memory myself these days. But luckily what ever got lost is quickly retrieved. I hadn't done OW3 for about 4 weeks, I went to do a page and nothing came to mind at all for a start  ::)
I reckon that, as long as I can remember my way to OW, the rest is likely work after a bit of brain-wrestling ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Michael on 14 October 2016, 15:14:00
I sympathise Michael. I find the same shortness of memory myself these days. But luckily what ever got lost is quickly retrieved. I hadn't done OW3 for about 4 weeks, I went to do a page and nothing came to mind at all for a start  ::)
I reckon that, as long as I can remember my way to OW, the rest is likely work after a bit of brain-wrestling ;)

It's good to be back transcribing again.

I had to look up some of the more obscure hotkeys, but now that I've got a few pages under my belt, it's all come back to me.

Yesterday at the gym it took me several seconds to remember the combination to my lock. And, my usual set of exercises was very difficult. (I really feel it today!  :'()

How quickly the mind and body deteriorate after three weeks of little use!  :'( :'( :'(
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Hanibal94 on 14 October 2016, 15:18:15
How quickly the mind and body deteriorate after three weeks of little use!  :'( :'( :'(

Yeah - you just posted the same thing twice with slightly different layouts. Definitely a sign of mental deterioration.  ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Michael on 14 October 2016, 16:00:47
How quickly the mind and body deteriorate after three weeks of little use!  :'( :'( :'(

Yeah - you just posted the same thing twice with slightly different layouts. Definitely a sign of mental deterioration.  ;D

I was sure I posted it, but I couldn't find it with a refresh, so I did it again.  I wasn't sure it went through. :'(
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: AvastMH on 14 October 2016, 16:26:31
How quickly the mind and body deteriorate after three weeks of little use!  :'( :'( :'(

Yeah - you just posted the same thing twice with slightly different layouts. Definitely a sign of mental deterioration.  ;D

I was sure I posted it, but I couldn't find it with a refresh, so I did it again.  I wasn't sure it went through. :'(

Hey Michael - you were worried about being unfamiliar with OW - looks like it reciprocated  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Tegwen on 16 October 2016, 16:07:27
Hi. I promised a few photos of HMS M33. The Naval Dockyard have made a great job of displaying her, although perhaps she is not as photogenic as HMS CAROLINE.

https://plus.google.com/collection/c1fGME
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: jil on 16 October 2016, 18:09:45
 8)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Bob on 16 October 2016, 18:22:53
Great photos! It's always especially fascinating to see details of the interior living and working spaces.
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Tegwen on 17 October 2016, 12:17:25
Great photos! It's always especially fascinating to see details of the interior living and working spaces.

Thanks Bob, again sadly I didnt have tripod & high powered flash so the interior photos are not good, also of course much is reconstructed rather than being original, but it does give a good idea of the facilities available.
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Hanibal94 on 17 October 2016, 14:22:13
Ceremony marks start of polar ship construction (http://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-37648915)

Quote
Construction of the UK's new 200m polar research ship, the RRS Sir David Attenborough, formally began on Monday at Cammell Laird on Merseyside.

A ceremony saw a crane lower a near-100-tonne segment of keel on to blocks on the firm's slipway. The ship is intended to be at work by 2019.

The vessel is already well known owing to the online vote to name it, which saw the public choose Boaty McBoatface.

An autonomous submarine deployed by the ship will be given that name instead.
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: AvastMH on 17 October 2016, 14:37:43
Wow - that's some chunk of keel! I wonder what shape that coin will be in when they retrieve it?  :D
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: AvastMH on 17 October 2016, 16:24:22
News from a Pond Transferee:

From Randi today...
"I am doing fine and should be back in a week or two."

Short and sweet - but good news which is what counts :D

Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: studentforever on 17 October 2016, 16:35:41
Yes, it will be good to hear from her again.
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Michael on 17 October 2016, 18:48:25
Indeed!!!!  :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Hanibal94 on 18 October 2016, 12:59:19
Yeah - this place is way too quiet without her.  :(
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Helen J on 18 October 2016, 13:02:40
Good news indeed - she's definitely missed.
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: AvastMH on 18 October 2016, 15:31:41
I agree - it'll be great when she's back!!  ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: AvastMH on 18 October 2016, 15:33:30
Small aside here...just looked up the San Francisco earthquake of June 1st 1899 and spotted this in the corner of the page:

(http://i.imgur.com/5kpUK7f.png)

Ahhhhh - those were the days eh?  ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Michael on 18 October 2016, 15:50:53
Small aside here...just looked up the San Francisco earthquake of June 1st 1899 and spotted this in the corner of the page:

(http://i.imgur.com/5kpUK7f.png)

Ahhhhh - those were the days eh?  ;)
I will not mention the F35!  ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: AvastMH on 18 October 2016, 17:13:29
Small aside here...just looked up the San Francisco earthquake of June 1st 1899 and spotted this in the corner of the page:

(http://i.imgur.com/5kpUK7f.png)

Ahhhhh - those were the days eh?  ;)
I will not mention the F35!  ;)

F35?  What have I forgotten about? Ummm...F35 (can you hear the rattling of my brain cells trying to put that into place?)  ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Michael on 18 October 2016, 17:37:23
It's a bird, it's a plane, it's expensive! 20 years in development, billions over budget, the most expensive weapon system to date to quote Wiki (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lockheed_Martin_F-35_Lightning_II).
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: AvastMH on 18 October 2016, 18:08:54
It's a bird, it's a plane, it's expensive! 20 years in development, billions over budget, the most expensive weapon system to date to quote Wiki (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lockheed_Martin_F-35_Lightning_II).

Super secret then - hidden in plain view on Wiki  ;D  I thought all that fighter plane stuff was old hat these days? It'll all be done by those minihelicopter things? Better still - save the cash and be nice to one another (sorry for this radical and inexpensive suggestion  ::)  ;) )

Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Hanibal94 on 19 October 2016, 14:05:44
Designer turns garage door into monster's jaws (https://www.youtube.com/embed/3GiIU0HHUas)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: AvastMH on 19 October 2016, 16:25:07
Oh there's a few politicians that I'd like to feed to the garage door  ;) :D
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 19 October 2016, 16:33:17
When the 20th turns up at your place.
HAPPY INTERNATIONAL SLOTH DAY.   ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: AvastMH on 19 October 2016, 16:49:12
I hope someone's told the sloths!  :D
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Helen J on 20 October 2016, 05:56:37
I've just read this, and it's now the 20th here, and so I'm wondering what I can do to keep the day - which seems the wrong question somehow  :-\ ??? :-\ ???
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Craig on 20 October 2016, 07:04:01
Well, short of not transcribing - an unthinkable idea - I don't know what one can do ... or not do.  ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 20 October 2016, 18:17:51
Sorry cannot help you with that one.
19 Nov is World Toilet Day. Maybe we can all do our bit for that day.  ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: AvastMH on 21 October 2016, 12:30:01
I've just read this, and it's now the 20th here, and so I'm wondering what I can do to keep the day - which seems the wrong question somehow  :-\ ??? :-\ ???

There's always the possibility that you could spend the day suspended off a tree branch whilst working on a laptop slung round your neck. Perhaps save that for next year ?  :D
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: AvastMH on 21 October 2016, 12:33:54
Sorry cannot help you with that one.
19 Nov is World Toilet Day. Maybe we can all do our bit for that day.  ;D

Shouldn't be too much of a strain to help with that  ::) ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Helen J on 21 October 2016, 12:57:36
I've just read this, and it's now the 20th here, and so I'm wondering what I can do to keep the day - which seems the wrong question somehow  :-\ ??? :-\ ???

There's always the possibility that you could spend the day suspended off a tree branch whilst working on a laptop slung round your neck. Perhaps save that for next year ?  :D

I think as I'm not equipped to suspend myself from a tree branch in any fashion, let alone with a laptop slung round my neck, it would be less than slothful ....  It's an interesting picture though!
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Hanibal94 on 21 October 2016, 13:03:09
My laptop is too heavy for that  ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Hanibal94 on 21 October 2016, 13:59:01
Don't know if anybody here is using Linux, but just in case...

Dirty Cow bug discovered (http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-37728010)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: AvastMH on 21 October 2016, 14:41:34
Well all you historian sea-dogs out there. Today is Trafalgar Day.

So I thought I'd post a link to Philip Brohan's fascinating OldWeather examples: The Trafalgar Storm: 21st to 29th October 1805 (https://sites.google.com/a/oldweather.org/www/examples/the-trafalgar-storm--21st-to-29th-october-1805)

Here's the Victory's weather reports  :)
(http://i.imgur.com/ju1pEfj.jpg)(http://i.imgur.com/pqOgSzG.jpg)

Facing pages from the logbook of HMS Victory for 14th to 20th October 1805. Wind directions are given on the left-hand page, and notes on the wind force and weather open each daily entry on the right-hand page.
By permission of the National Archives, Kew


(Thinking of great storms, it was also October when England was hit by the Great Storm of 1987, that was the 15th-16 October and derived from an intense low over the Bay of Biscay).
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Craig on 21 October 2016, 15:11:48
Let's get at it.  8) ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: AvastMH on 21 October 2016, 15:17:33
 ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Bob on 21 October 2016, 17:35:45
 8)

Looks a bit like the early Jamestown 1844 logs...  ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Helen J on 22 October 2016, 12:57:51
This programme has been on before, but is repeated tonight at 7.05pm on Channel 4 if anyone fancies an hour hunting for the Northwest Passage ...

http://www.channel4.com/programmes/hunt-for-the-arctic-ghost-ship
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: AvastMH on 22 October 2016, 13:30:42
I do! I do! Thanks Helen!!  :D
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Bob on 23 October 2016, 09:03:12
Hi, all! I have a small request for some Moderator assistance:

Head over to the Whaling (https://whaling.oldweather.org/#/) main page and click on either the Transcribe text at the top of the page, or the green Start Transcribing button in the middle of the page. Do you actually get something to transcribe, or do you get a dialogue window saying there's nothing to transcribe?

Bonus points if you do a couple of transcriptions (if available) to see if you get 'Nothing To Transcribe' right away.

Thanks!
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: propriome on 23 October 2016, 10:22:05
Hi Bob,

Got the "Currently, there are no pages for you to transcribe. Try marking instead!" message.
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Bob on 23 October 2016, 10:29:13
OK, thanks!
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Hanibal94 on 23 October 2016, 10:32:16
Got the "Currently, there are no pages for you to transcribe. Try marking instead!" message.

Got the same for both buttons.
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Bob on 23 October 2016, 11:02:56
Thanks! It appears that Whaling seems to think it's completely done.  ???
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Hanibal94 on 23 October 2016, 11:21:14
Also - if I move my cursor to any of the ships and click "Transcribe", I get the same message.
But when I click on "More info", it always says the ship is less than 100% complete.
If I click on any of the "Mark" buttons, I get a white rectangle on the right with "View a tutorial", "Transcribe this page now"! and "About this ship", but I don't get anything to mark.
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Bob on 23 October 2016, 11:30:36
Thanks for checking all that. I'll be sending an email to the PTB to find out what's up.
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: AvastMH on 23 October 2016, 12:05:48
Hi, all! I have a small request for some Moderator assistance:

Head over to the Whaling (https://whaling.oldweather.org/#/) main page and click on either the Transcribe text at the top of the page, or the green Start Transcribing button in the middle of the page. Do you actually get something to transcribe, or do you get a dialogue window saying there's nothing to transcribe?

Bonus points if you do a couple of transcriptions (if available) to see if you get 'Nothing To Transcribe' right away.

Thanks!

Just onto it Bob :)

Right - I got the same - no marking or transcribing available.
1) Yesterday night I got a bit of the Albion to transcribe when using OW4 as an anonymous user. But no marking and that doesn't surprise me because each page has certainly had three 'all done' notes sent in.
2) Just now got no access to marking or transcribing as an anonymous transcriber.
3) Could be that they are about to be declared as finished.
 :D
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Bob on 23 October 2016, 12:21:01
Could be, except for all those unreachable log pages, and the Newport.  ::)

 ;)

3) Could be that they are about to be declared as finished.
 :D
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: AvastMH on 23 October 2016, 14:32:01
Could be, except for all those unreachable log pages, and the Newport.  ::)

 ;)

Oh no - Forgot about those - eek!!  :(
I hope they continue to break up the logs as they did for Albion  :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: AvastMH on 23 October 2016, 14:53:07
Anyone in the UK...would any of you have picked up on a BBC request for information about sightings of hedgehogs please? My neighbour mentioned it but can't remember much about the request. Thank you  :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Thursday Next on 23 October 2016, 15:15:05
I don't remember anything on the BBC.  But maybe it was about The Big Hedgehog Map http://bighedgehogmap.org/  This is run by Hedgehog Street, which is jointly sponsored by Peoples Trust for Endangered Species and British Hedgehog Preservation Society.  BHPS website at http://www.britishhedgehogs.org.uk/
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: studentforever on 23 October 2016, 15:17:51
Yes, I heard it too. I think it is the Mammal Society, they want sightings with places and at least an estimate of dates. They are also interested in places where you HAVEN'T seen any. They are trying to identify hedgehog hotspots & deserts.

Just checked, you can get it on a clip of this morning's Broadcasting House on Radio 4 under 'How to encourage hedgehogs'
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: AvastMH on 23 October 2016, 15:24:59

I don't remember anything on the BBC.  But maybe it was about The Big Hedgehog Map http://bighedgehogmap.org/  This is run by Hedgehog Street, which is jointly sponsored by Peoples Trust for Endangered Species and British Hedgehog Preservation Society.  BHPS website at http://www.britishhedgehogs.org.uk/
Thanks Thursday Next - I've logged my 5 on that map (shame it wasn't 7 like last year). It's a great map. I'd love schools to get in contact with it to get a better idea of who's where. :)


Yes, I heard it too. I think it is the Mammal Society, they want sightings with places and at least an estimate of dates. They are also interested in places where you HAVEN'T seen any. They are trying to identify hedgehog hotspots & deserts.
Oh right - thanks so much studentforever - this sounds like it might be the thing that Cath heard about - I'll have a look. :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: AvastMH on 23 October 2016, 16:19:58
Yep - the Mammal Soc was the right site. 5 hogs safely logged in :D
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Craig on 24 October 2016, 13:12:02
Groundhogs ruined my garden this year. I am mounting a deportation campaign if they can't come up with valid ID and promise to respect Craig's values (which include not taking chunks out of partially ripe tomatoes before I get to them).

One another topic, what has become of the OCR tests? I remember there were some people trying different strategies to use OCR for typewritten logs. Is this still going on? I ask because I have many months of them in front of me now with the Yorktown.

For example, http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Yorktown/vol02of04/vol02of04_044_0.jpg
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: AvastMH on 24 October 2016, 14:48:52
Groundhogs ruined my garden this year. I am mounting a deportation campaign if they can't come up with valid ID and promise to respect Craig's values (which include not taking chunks out of partially ripe tomatoes before I get to them).

One another topic, what has become of the OCR tests? I remember there were some people trying different strategies to use OCR for typewritten logs. Is this still going on? I ask because I have many months of them in front of me now with the Yorktown.

For example, http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Yorktown/vol02of04/vol02of04_044_0.jpg

I'll try to find out for you Craig. To be specific
1) How to evict groundhogs
2) How to moderate groundhog behaviour
3) How to train your tomatoes to run at the first sight of a groundhog  ;)

and I'll even try to find out about the OCR work. As far as I know it continues, certainly there is no indication that the work is finished.  :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: AvastMH on 24 October 2016, 14:54:26
Sad news today. Dr Gordon Hamilton was a scientist working on the speed of ice melting and the effect of that on sea levels. He died on Saturday in Antarctica in a tragic accident. The New York Times report and tribute is linked to here (http://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/25/science/gordon-hamilton-climate-scientist-dies-accident-antarctica.html?_r=0).
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: JamesAPrattIII on 24 October 2016, 15:10:24
Craig it looks like you need to have someone go groundhog hunting to get rid of them.
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Dean on 25 October 2016, 08:11:10
Sad news today. Dr Gordon Hamilton was a scientist working on the speed of ice melting and the effect of that on sea levels. He died on Saturday in Antarctica in a tragic accident. The New York Times report and tribute is linked to here (http://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/25/science/gordon-hamilton-climate-scientist-dies-accident-antarctica.html?_r=0).

 :'(
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Craig on 25 October 2016, 11:23:35
Very sad. He died doing what he loved most.
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Craig on 25 October 2016, 11:27:51
Craig it looks like you need to have someone go groundhog hunting to get rid of them.

Yes, indeed. If Joan's suggestions don't help it may come to that. A friend also commented that lead is a good solution but I may give my groundhogs an opportunity to explore greener fields.  ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Michael on 25 October 2016, 11:33:24
Craig it looks like you need to have someone go groundhog hunting to get rid of them.

Yes, indeed. If Joan's suggestions don't help it may come to that. A friend also commented that lead is a good solution but I may give my groundhogs an opportunity to explore greener fields.  ;D

I recommend setting off half a pound of C4 in their burrows.  ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: AvastMH on 25 October 2016, 12:49:05
C4? (Cheddar strength 4?)  ;) :D
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Craig on 25 October 2016, 14:48:28
A new isotope of carbon?  :D
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Michael on 25 October 2016, 14:59:39
Caring, Compassion, Consideration and Concern.  ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Thursday Next on 25 October 2016, 15:27:58
Yep - the Mammal Soc was the right site. 5 hogs safely logged in :D

How very fortuitous that this came up!  There was a hedgehog in my garden yesterday evening, first one I've seen in at least a couple of years - duly reported to the Mammal Society.
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: AvastMH on 25 October 2016, 16:40:17
Yep - the Mammal Soc was the right site. 5 hogs safely logged in :D

How very fortuitous that this came up!  There was a hedgehog in my garden yesterday evening, first one I've seen in at least a couple of years - duly reported to the Mammal Society.

How wonderful - I'm very pleased for you - and great to have put it on the Mammal Soc. record. I hope it was a good size :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Thursday Next on 26 October 2016, 15:52:15
I'm afraid it wasn't a good size - it looked like a young one  :( So I hope it will be OK.  It is always milder in the West Country so hopefully it has a little longer to grow before needing to hibernate.
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: AvastMH on 26 October 2016, 16:39:44
Well - it's a tough one - do you rescue it to a rescue facility? Do you even have a rescue facility? And some hogs just fade away in captivity anyway. :(
Just seen my lot outside - all present and correct. Another 20 Kg of hog food turning up tomorrow.  ::)  8)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Hanibal94 on 27 October 2016, 13:54:08
Over ten years ago, my older brother found a hedgehog that had been born too late in the year to survive its first winter, so we took it in.
We kept in a large box for over six months and set it free next April.
It was actually quite nice, saving an animal's life like that.  :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: AvastMH on 27 October 2016, 14:37:10
Over ten years ago, my older brother found a hedgehog that had been born too late in the year to survive its first winter, so we took it in.
We kept in a large box for over six months and set it free next April.
It was actually quite nice, saving an animal's life like that.  :)

Awww - that's a truly tremendous effort!! Well done!!  :D :D :D :D :D

Last night I popped out to serve up second dinner ( ::) ) and jolyons was on the doorstep looking at the door. Now this may have been co-incidence, but the look of 'what time do you call this, you were due here a half hour ago' was pretty plain to see on her face. So out went second dinner/pudding and she started purring away like a little motorbike engine bless her. Wish I could capture that noise.  8)


Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Helen J on 28 October 2016, 07:20:48
Do all your hedgehogs have names, Joan?  And how do you tell them apart?  I loved the mental picture of Jolyons on your doorstep with that look on her face!
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: AvastMH on 28 October 2016, 13:36:20
Yep  :D
Jolyons lives in the garden of the house on the corner of our road (remember Joe Lyons corner house tea rooms?), and she purrs like crazy (thought it was a boy intially)
Layla scents her feeding area by peeing on it very frequently (lot's of sort-of bobbing up and down - ahem!). Her daughter is Lulu
Butch is a nutter - he runs at the other hedgehogs and rams them in the ribs.
Lulu usually trails after her mother even though she's quite grown up now.
Itchy - scratches a lot. I caught him to check out what it was all about but couldn't see anything wrong. The scratching has waned recently. He's got quite darkly coloured cheeks.

Sadly we lost three-legged titch during last winter  :'(

Lulu was outside this morning shortly before dawn so I'm going to set the clock very early tomorrow morning to weigh her. Hopefully she's 800 gms or more. If not I'm not sure whether she needs a rescue or not yet  :-\

Knowing that they are dclining so fast I can only say that they are sweet - but a real responsibility!  :)

Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Helen J on 28 October 2016, 13:55:59
They sound very lucky hedgehogs - not only do they have names, and regular feeding, but also health checks.  I hope Lulu reaches the requisite weight, so she can stay with her mum.

Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: AvastMH on 28 October 2016, 14:36:27
 :) :) :) I'm lucky enough to be able to look after them is how I see it.
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 28 October 2016, 15:20:16
Joan. send pics
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: AvastMH on 28 October 2016, 17:01:49
Your wish is my command Stuart. Just so happens I'd pm'd some a week or two back... They are not great though. If I could get down to their level it would be better but my gammy leg prevents this. Anyway...here we go:

Layla in early summer- out before dark so probably feeding early in order to get back to her nest and baby/babies:
(http://i.imgur.com/yN7XquO.png)


Layla in late summer. She likes grubbing around in the loose soil by the back of the garage wall
(http://i.imgur.com/U9cCbxz.png)


Layla and her daughter Lulu. Dinner that night was chicken cat food, worms and hedgehog biscuits and a couple of dead spiders
(http://i.imgur.com/N5SKg0s.png)


This is Jolyons. I nearly captured that purr by putting my phone on the ground, and sprinkling it with dried mealworms. Unbelievably she put her foot on the 'done' button straight away. Next plan is probably for tomorrow night - sort out a large mic attached to this machine out on the grass by the vine where she particularly likes feeding.
(http://i.imgur.com/J3gKcZM.png)

Itchy in 'shy' mode - trying to dash along the front of the garages.
(http://i.imgur.com/T21R3Q1.jpg?2)

Butch being evasive (this is a terrible photo). He likes hiding under that bush for his first ambush of the evening. I think the whole bumping thing is about working out if any of the girls is worth pursuing. One night he pestered Lulu for so long that I went and broke up the party.  ::)
(http://i.imgur.com/m5AdO4r.png)

They are so cute, but very, very shy. Jolyons is fairly bold, but the rest don't seem at all like getting used to me. I really ought to get someone with a half decent camera to come round and take pictures. It's supposed to be relatively warm for the next two weeks so I'm hopeful that they won't be going to bed just yet.  :D
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 28 October 2016, 17:49:25
Thanks for the quick reply and the pics.
Seems like you have some cute distractions from OW.

We are not allowed to have them in AU.
The Echidna is probably the most similar we have here.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Echidna (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Echidna)

It actually a monotreme.
Which is one of only 2 egg laying mammals in the world (the other is also in Aust, the platypus).
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: AvastMH on 28 October 2016, 18:17:47
Well that makes sense - keeping these little critters out - especially if they would crowd out sweet little critters like the echidna  :D
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Helen J on 29 October 2016, 10:56:21
Great to see the pics, and hear a bit more about your spiny friends.  Jolyons sounds like a very technically clued up hog!
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 29 October 2016, 16:40:09
I think Hanibal will like the Doodle for Halloween.  ;)
 :D
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: AvastMH on 29 October 2016, 17:10:29
Aha! The privilege of living east of the rest of us Stuart - we haven't got that yet  ;D

Hey - clocks change in the UK tonight - we get an extra hour's sleep - hurrah -clocks change from 2 a.m. to 1 a.m.  :D
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Michael on 29 October 2016, 19:07:31
Aha! The privilege of living east of the rest of us Stuart - we haven't got that yet  ;D

Hey - clocks change in the UK tonight - we get an extra hour's sleep - hurrah -clocks change from 2 a.m. to 1 a.m.  :D

Clocks in North America change a week from now. (You would think the world could adjust at the same time, if at all!)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 29 October 2016, 19:10:27
Thanks Joan and Michael.
Must make sure I don't wake up the Step Mother an hour early by miss calculating the time.  ;)
I have never understood my PC's clocks.
At 10:00am my time, (UTC) Coordinated Universal Time shows UK at 11pm and (UTC +00:00)  London etc shows as up as 12PM

What is the difference UTC and (UTC+00:00)and don't say 1hr.  ::)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Hanibal94 on 29 October 2016, 19:25:56
I think Hanibal will like the Doodle for Halloween.  ;)
 :D

You were right, Stuart - it was great!

I got killed once in Level 4, but kept going, and won the game with a total score of 104550. On my first try.
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Bob on 29 October 2016, 19:38:42
Arizona makes it extra fun in the U.S. by not following daylight savings time, so they essentially switch time zones twice a year.  ::)

Clocks in North America change a week from now. (You would think the world could adjust at the same time, if at all!)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 29 October 2016, 19:42:34
I think Hanibal will like the Doodle for Halloween.  ;)
 :D

You were right, Stuart - it was great!

I got killed once in Level 4, but kept going, and won the game with a total score of 104550. On my first try.

Your up late?
Not even going to try and beat that score.  :-[

Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: leelaht on 29 October 2016, 19:43:19
I'd heard there was a time when each county in Indiana chose which time scheme to follow.
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Bob on 29 October 2016, 21:58:32
Pretty much! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time_in_Indiana

I'd heard there was a time when each county in Indiana chose which time scheme to follow.
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: AvastMH on 30 October 2016, 05:08:34
My mouse is in flames and that was me getting only as far as 20450. What a fun google doodle  ;D

Stuart - that's weird about the London time thing. I don't understand it at all. Basically UTC is GMT isn't it? Ofcourse it's fair that 00:00 yesterday should show as 23:00 right across the UK because the clock change is not until 01:00 UTC, but if London was shown as a different time that sonds wrong. Or have I misunderstood the situation?   ;) :D

Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 30 October 2016, 06:22:16
I use the additional clocks in Win 10 (and previous) to set UTC but it screws me by an hour when I set UTC + 00:00 setting, I also set Michael's time in Canada on the other clock available.

Is anybody else having that problem or is it just a downunder thing?  ???
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Bob on 30 October 2016, 07:53:25
Do you have them set to automatically adjust for daylight savings time? I've sometimes run into problems with that not working correctly.

I use the additional clocks in Win 10 (and previous) to set UTC but it screws me by an hour when I set UTC + 00:00 setting, I also set Michael's time in Canada on the other clock available.

Is anybody else having that problem or is it just a downunder thing?  ???
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Helen J on 30 October 2016, 09:29:57
Mine has adjusted itself automatically to GMT here, and I'm rather assuming that the other two I have for quick checking (San Francisco and South Korea) are correct in relation to it ....
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 30 October 2016, 15:13:57
Got up this morning and it dawned on me.   ::)
At 07:00 AEDT I now have UTC clock AND London clock showing 20:00hrs.
The London time (UTC + 00:00) which was out by plus an hour yesterday was the extra hour Joan had in bed last night.
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: AvastMH on 30 October 2016, 17:16:31
And jolly fine that extra hour was :) ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: AvastMH on 30 October 2016, 17:18:11
Matteo - I just caught the late news. I am horrified to see that Italy has suffered yet more devastating earthquakes today. I hope that you and yours are all safe, and I hope that those who suffered today will be well cared for.
Best wishes, Joan
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 30 October 2016, 17:23:24
Matteo and Silvia
Hope you are not affected by the earthquakes.

This may be of interest to some.
http://beforetheflood.nationalgeographic.com.au/ (http://beforetheflood.nationalgeographic.com.au/)
Hope the link works for you.
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: propriome on 31 October 2016, 04:19:25
Hi there!

Thank you.
Fortunately I'm quite far from there, even if several people living upstairs have felt the quakes even here (150-200km away)... i'm pretty sure Silvia, living more to the south, has heard all of them. Last one was very strong (6.5 magnitude).
Earthquakes along the Apennines are not uncommon, but the recent seismic activity is very strong. Images from central Italy shows great devastation, especially in old medieval hamlets and historical city centers.
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: AvastMH on 31 October 2016, 14:28:48
Thank you for mentioning where Sylvia is - I should have asked yesterday. :)

As well as the horror of human loses, the sad destruction of so many beautiful Italian buildings is tragic too.
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Craig on 06 November 2016, 17:48:33
Not very chatty, are we  ;D

It must be because of the upcoming election you know where   ::)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Bob on 06 November 2016, 18:19:03
 :-X
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Michael on 06 November 2016, 18:50:32
Not very chatty, are we  ;D

It must be because of the upcoming election you know where   ::)

I suppose you are thinking of the Territorial Election in the Yukon which is being held on Monday the 7th of November.  ;)

It's nice to know that so many of you are concerned!  ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Helen J on 07 November 2016, 07:09:48
Not very chatty, are we  ;D

It must be because of the upcoming election you know where   ::)

Between the upcoming election over the pond, and endless Brexit sniping over here, it's very tempting to hide under the duvet and just not listen to the news (or of course just keep transcribing ....)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: studentforever on 07 November 2016, 12:39:13
Absolutely, there used to be a saying 'Stop the world, I want to get off' which just about sums up my feelings at the moment. The idea of going into coma for a few weeks is positively alluring. It's a pity there are so few convents out of mobile phone range with an old fashioned Mother Superior who would give a one or two sentence summary of news she felt the sisters should know. A retreat in such an establishment might be an alternative.
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Helen J on 07 November 2016, 13:04:57
 ;D ;D ;D  If I hear of such an establishment I'll let you know - though I think both places out of mobile phone range, and old fashioned Mothers Superior are pretty much extinct these days.
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Hanibal94 on 07 November 2016, 13:13:16
I did my duty and voted.
Won't find out who won till Wednesday morning because of the time difference... So much nervousness!
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: AvastMH on 07 November 2016, 15:31:35
The world is quaking in its shoes right behind you in the queue of sleepless people, hanibal.  :o ::) ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 08 November 2016, 03:29:41
From an outsiders point of view I don't know how anybody can choose between the two. :o
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Craig on 08 November 2016, 06:27:08
Well, I will only mention the question of climate change. One of them does not believe in it and the other does.
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: AvastMH on 08 November 2016, 16:59:36
OK - it's going to snow over a lot of the UK tonight. My hedgehogs could do with a few more therms just now bless them.  ::)  :D
SNOW! OUCH! And as far south as Leicester.  :o
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 09 November 2016, 02:57:05
Cold weather in the UK.
Cold result for some in the US.
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: AvastMH on 09 November 2016, 15:15:58
Hmmm - close to zero Kelvin in the US I should think :(
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Hanibal94 on 09 November 2016, 15:23:46
Around zero degrees C for the next few days in Saxony. Brrrr.
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 09 November 2016, 16:22:52
Hmmm - close to zero Kelvin in the US I should think :(

Cannot Trump that one Joan.  ::)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: studentforever on 09 November 2016, 17:32:01
I think that we, and especially those of us in the UK, may experience the apocryphal Chinese curse, 'May you live in interesting times'.
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Dean on 09 November 2016, 18:56:20
I think that we, and especially those of us in the UK, may experience the apocryphal Chinese curse, 'May you live in interesting times'.

We in the US  may have just arrived there also!
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Hanibal94 on 10 November 2016, 13:08:54
I hope this helps:
Survivor's guide to unexpected voting results (http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-37921356)

There's also a neat article called "Don't Panic", by David Wong, on cracked.com. Can't repost it here, though, because Cracked does not care about wholesomeness.

Me, I'll probably participate in citizen science even more fervently than before, since it's such a great way to make the world a better place, and I'm so good at it.
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: AvastMH on 10 November 2016, 16:05:48
Around zero degrees C for the next few days in Saxony. Brrrr.

Ouch - stay wrapped up hanibal!  :D

Hmmm - close to zero Kelvin in the US I should think :(

Cannot Trump that one Joan.  ::)

Groooooaan ;) ;) ;D

I think that we, and especially those of us in the UK, may experience the apocryphal Chinese curse, 'May you live in interesting times'.

Soberingly true!  :o :)

I think that we, and especially those of us in the UK, may experience the apocryphal Chinese curse, 'May you live in interesting times'.

We in the US  may have just arrived there also!

Also soberingly true!  :o :)

Checked the survivor's guide - but it was too depressing and I didn't survive it  ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Randi on 14 November 2016, 14:12:53
Greetings everyone!

I now have an apartment and a computer and I am finally back to my OW family.
It looks like I have a few posts and messages to catch up on...



Stuart: Please move me from Aix-en-Provence to Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania.
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Craig on 14 November 2016, 14:16:03
Welcome back, Randi! Things have been pretty quiet here without you.  :)

(There should have been more like you in PA  :'( )
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Hanibal94 on 14 November 2016, 14:20:06
Welcome back!
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: AvastMH on 14 November 2016, 14:23:44
Woooohooooo! Welcome back Randi!!!  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Dressed ship to welcome you back...

(http://i.imgur.com/Od4Bnlz.png)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Bob on 14 November 2016, 14:43:41
Woot! Welcome back, Randi!  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 14 November 2016, 15:07:27
Greetings everyone!

I now have an apartment and a computer and I am finally back to my OW family.
It looks like I have a few posts and messages to catch up on...



Stuart: Please move me from Aix-en-Provence to Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania.

Done.

Any others to be added/deleted/changed?
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Caro on 14 November 2016, 15:41:25
Welcome back, dear Randi.  :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Randi on 14 November 2016, 15:54:58
Hello all.

Got some great news: I have passed the last exam of my studies, and am on track to receive my Bachelor of Science.
The graduation ceremony will take place on October 22nd - that's where I'll get the pretty piece of paper to hang on my wall.
And as I mentioned earlier, I already got a job lined up, starting October 4th.

Wow... Can't believe I'm pretty much done with formal education, and at 22 too. Such a big change in life, and I never really saw it coming - it just kinda happened.
Still, it's been a good three years. I've learned a lot and experienced a lot, and I feel confident that this is the right career for me.

I will continue to work on OW till I have done all I could, of course, although my contribution rate might drop - as I am no longer a student, I won't be getting nearly as many short days or days off anymore.
But the end is in sight, so I ain't quitting now!



Very belated congratulations!
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Helen J on 14 November 2016, 15:55:29
Welcome back on board, Randi - so glad to hear that you've landed safely in your new home.
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: jil on 14 November 2016, 16:19:17
Welcome back Randi! Good luck reading all the posts you've missed  ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Michael on 14 November 2016, 16:24:19
Hip Hip Hooray!
Hip Hip Hooray!
Hip Hip Hooray!


I was walking downtown about an hour ago, and I said to myself, "I wonder when Randi will be back!"

And, I signed onto the forum and there you were!!!

Hip Hip Hooray!
Hip Hip Hooray!
Hip Hip Hooray!


Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: studentforever on 14 November 2016, 16:37:18
Good to hear from you again, Randi. Hope you soon settle in over there, we'll have to get used to the time difference when you are on the forum.
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Randi on 14 November 2016, 16:51:26
Thank you all for your many kind messages!!!
I may be in a strange new home, but fortunately I still have the same strange wonderful old weather family.
 :-* :-* :-* :-* :-*

Yes, reading all the posts I've missed will be quite a job, but I will do it a bit at a time..
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Randi on 14 November 2016, 17:18:04
Snowballs on the shore (http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-37889839)

When cities rise from the depths (http://www.bbc.com/travel/story/20151102-when-cities-rise-from-the-depths)

Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: AvastMH on 14 November 2016, 17:23:34
Well I'd like to throw a few of those snowballs at Trump - they look pretty mean for snowballs  ;)

Can't get the other one because it's run by the British Broadcasting Corporation and I'm British and a licence payer so I'm not allowed to see it.  >:(  :o
Perhaps I've got another target for those mean looking tough snowballs?  ::)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: propriome on 15 November 2016, 02:52:48
Welcome back Randi!!
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Randi on 15 November 2016, 10:40:46
Thank you!
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Randi on 15 November 2016, 20:21:36
Would someone please test View all logs for Bear?
As far as I can tell, it works for all the completed ships except Bear.
Thanks!
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Michael on 15 November 2016, 20:33:23
How do I do that?
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Bob on 15 November 2016, 20:45:29
https://classic.oldweather.org/ships/500dc362cd0db40002000455    ;)

How do I do that?
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Bob on 15 November 2016, 20:48:12
Of course, the OW classic sites aren't responding now. Thanks, Randi!  :o ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Bob on 15 November 2016, 20:49:32
ERROR

The request could not be satisfied.

CloudFront attempted to establish a connection with the origin, but either the attempt failed or the origin closed the connection.
Generated by cloudfront (CloudFront)
Request ID: 8CpoZ0IaNMCifQT64mHAmW30GsSwIcu6a6q0h5jWWsRsdDPBIRYGMA==
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Michael on 15 November 2016, 21:01:53
It works now, and I see all the logs for Bear, too.  :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Bob on 15 November 2016, 21:12:16
Everything is working for me now, but it still times out on Bear VAL.

It works now, and I see all the logs for Bear, too.  :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Michael on 15 November 2016, 21:44:13
Everything is working for me now, but it still times out on Bear VAL.

It works now, and I see all the logs for Bear, too.  :)

You're correct. I just had the page come up showing the crew. I never thought of clicking on the View All Logs button.  :-[  I was just excited to see the server running...
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Hanibal94 on 16 November 2016, 04:21:40
I tried the Bear, Vicksburg and Yukon.
Bear: Got error message the first and second times.
Vicksburg: Got error message the first time, second time worked.
Yukon: First time worked.

Quote
ERROR
The request could not be satisfied.
CloudFront attempted to establish a connection with the origin, but either the attempt failed or the origin closed the connection.

Generated by cloudfront (CloudFront)
Request ID: kdUS_pZ63t6tnok_42zaCBG4QXbtm9Aei5C6SJ4hJo6_HASLVyVaUw==

Maybe this only affects the really big ships because they have so many log pages?
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Randi on 16 November 2016, 10:42:42
Thanks to everyone for checking!

Vicksburg: Got error message the first time, second time worked.

Maybe this only affects the really big ships because they have so many log pages?
Interesting possibility. I haven't had problems with Vicksburg, but I have only tried it a few times.
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Randi on 16 November 2016, 13:04:47
Mystery over Dutch WW2 shipwrecks vanished from Java Sea bed (http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-37997640)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: AvastMH on 16 November 2016, 15:36:21
Well that's a pretty strange thing. How could those wrecks disappear without the rigs being noticed. I guess it's a lot of sea.  :-\
Certainly a very disrespectful and serious act.
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Maikel on 17 November 2016, 02:57:39
Mystery over Dutch WW2 shipwrecks vanished from Java Sea bed (http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-37997640)

Not only 3 Dutch shipwrecks, it seems UK and US wrecks have disappeared, too.
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Randi on 17 November 2016, 10:00:23
True, but the articles seem to be concentrating on the Dutch ships.

How could a shipwreck disappear? (http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-38010130)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Maikel on 17 November 2016, 10:16:44
Dutch ships: HNLMS De Ruyter, HNLMS Java and HNLMS Kortenaer
British ships: HMS Exeter, HMS Encounter and HMS Electra
US ship: Submarine Perch

The Dutch ships alone had over 900 men go down with the ships.

The Gardian: British second world war shipwrecks in Java Sea destroyed by illegal scavenging (https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/nov/16/british-second-world-war-ships-illegal-scavenging-java-sea?CMP=share_btn_tw)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: AvastMH on 17 November 2016, 16:05:11
It really is shameful that the ships were recycled in such a dishonest way  :'(
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: JamesAPrattIII on 17 November 2016, 19:09:11
This is something that has been going on for decades and is not confined to this area. Believe it or not the wreck of the Exeter was only found 5-10 years ago and is in fairly deep water.
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: AvastMH on 19 November 2016, 19:40:13
This is something that has been going on for decades and is not confined to this area. Believe it or not the wreck of the Exeter was only found 5-10 years ago and is in fairly deep water.
:(
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: AvastMH on 19 November 2016, 19:41:01
And tonight's weather is - horrible...

(http://i.imgur.com/prBVcpz.png)

(http://i.imgur.com/121Izok.png)

Thanks to an intense low:

(http://i.imgur.com/xYusFsJ.png)

I'm off to bed before the roof blows off  ::) ???  :o
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Randi on 19 November 2016, 23:53:26
it's snowing!
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Maikel on 20 November 2016, 03:28:14
Now that Britain has opted for the Brexit, I hope Britain will stop sharing their bad weather with the rest of Europe.
In fact, I think it should be compulsory, we have no use for it. ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: studentforever on 20 November 2016, 04:35:01
Certainly, if our friends across the pond would stop sending their unwanted weather over to us!!
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: AvastMH on 20 November 2016, 06:44:15
I'm longing to see how we can fix this situation! I'll send a note to Teresa May and the cabinet can mull it over  ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Helen J on 20 November 2016, 07:19:44
Now that Britain has opted for the Brexit, I hope Britain will stop sharing their bad weather with the rest of Europe.
In fact, I think it should be compulsory, we have no use for it. ;)

 :D :D :D Thanks for a smile re Brexit - they're pretty rare!
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Craig on 20 November 2016, 07:24:11
Certainly, if our friends across the pond would stop sending their unwanted weather over to us!!

Well, the EU signed a free trade deal with Canada. We'll try our best to skirt the UK but there are no guarantees.  Your best bet is to build a high pressure bubble around you.  ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: AvastMH on 20 November 2016, 08:00:09
Certainly, if our friends across the pond would stop sending their unwanted weather over to us!!

Well, the EU signed a free trade deal with Canada. We'll try our best to skirt the UK but there are no guarantees.  Your best bet is to build a high pressure bubble around you.  ;D

Looking forward to one of those ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Michael on 20 November 2016, 14:57:46
It sounds as if you people have chosen your locations poorly...  ;)

Code: [Select]
Summary:      12    24 Hrs
Maximum:    11.7  11.7 deg C
Minimum:    10.2  10.1 deg C
Precip:      0.0   0.0 mm
Max Wind:     35    35 kmh

We are cloudy at the moment, but we had glorious sunshine yesterday. We had a gust to 35 kmh yesterday afternoon although the mean speed at the time was just 13.
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: AvastMH on 20 November 2016, 16:00:20
Glad you've had some sunshine Michael!  :D
The storm didn;t get up to us yesterday. Today was relatively warm with no wind, but tonight the temperature is plunging  :o
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: studentforever on 21 November 2016, 03:10:20
Not too wet up here but definitely chilly. Windscreens will be scraped!! The weather is locally described as 'dreich'.  :'(
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Tegwen on 21 November 2016, 05:34:08
No significant wind problems here, but very wet. Lots of spray & water accross the road etc as I drove out this morning.

I went out to give a talk to the local Rotary Club at their breakfast meeting on Old Weather & ships histories.

Seemed to go well.

K
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: AvastMH on 21 November 2016, 06:57:03
Just posted this on the Zooniverse main chat site during a wee coffee break:
http://www.ox.ac.uk/news/2016-11-16-reindeer-deaths-arctic-linked-retreating-sea-ice  :'( :'( :'(
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Thursday Next on 21 November 2016, 15:18:51
Well, apparently Exeter had "half a month's rainfall" on Saturday night - it seems we have had the other half today!
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: AvastMH on 21 November 2016, 16:00:12
By golly - a month's worth in a day.  :o So, if you had to have one of our ships come and rescue you which would it be and why?  ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Helen J on 22 November 2016, 09:59:15
Just found this absolutely beautiful picture of a 'white rainbow', photographed in the Highlands of Scotland. 

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-highlands-islands-38063662
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Craig on 22 November 2016, 10:24:49
If is beautiful, Helen!  8)
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Post by: Randi on 22 November 2016, 11:59:22
Stunning!
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: jil on 22 November 2016, 12:19:21
 8)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: studentforever on 22 November 2016, 13:53:41
Something I have never seen before. Lucky people
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: AvastMH on 22 November 2016, 14:04:00
Oh my! What an amazing picture, how lucky to come across that sight  :D
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Hanibal94 on 23 November 2016, 16:30:53
I just noticed the "Most Online Ever" statistic at the bottom of the forum has jumped to 187 people on September 12, 2016.  :o
That's over 3 times the average - what happened on that day?!
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: AvastMH on 23 November 2016, 16:40:17
Judging by what was in the news that day, the surge on the Forum should have made the national headlines  ;)

Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Randi on 23 November 2016, 16:41:09
Nothing that I know of...
I suspect it was bots :'(
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: AvastMH on 24 November 2016, 13:42:58
Happy Thanksgiving to y'all  :D

(http://i.imgur.com/Lfb1etp.png)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Randi on 24 November 2016, 13:55:55
 ;D ;D ;D

Great find!
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Bob on 24 November 2016, 14:12:38
 8)

(BTW, Princess Anne is the name of the county just east of Hampton Roads and Norfolk  ;) )
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Randi on 24 November 2016, 14:33:31
Thanks!
I had wondered about that name ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: AvastMH on 24 November 2016, 17:35:59
Thanks!
I had wondered about that name ;D

So did I - there were times in her youth when the English Press would have had a laugh at HRH's expense  ;) :D
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Randi on 25 November 2016, 23:48:57
Lichens are an early warning system for forest health
Scientists tap symbiotic lichens as sentinels of air quality, and now, climate problems


Quote from: https://www.sciencenews.org/article/lichens-are-early-warning-system-forest-health
Climate change caused by greenhouse gas emissions presents its own kind of air-quality problem. And lichens may help keep an eye out for climate changes, too.
Small differences in temperature and moisture mean big changes in the number and diversity of lichens in the landscape. Lichen diversity in Sweden and Alaska dropped with rising temperature, and lichens were more sensitive to change than vascular plants, according to a study published in 2012.
Earlier work in western Europe found that drought-tolerant lichens become more common in response to warming, while acid-loving species decline. In the Netherlands, Hyperphyscia adglutinata increased in abundance substantially from 1995 to 2001. During the same period, Lecanora conizaeoides declined by more than 60 percent.
By tracking which species increase or decrease with changing temperature and rainfall, ecologists are learning to read the climate story lichens are telling. The idea, Geiser says, is to use lichens to understand the on-the-ground realities of climate change.
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: AvastMH on 26 November 2016, 08:59:57
Teeny tell tales - well done Lichens!  :-*
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Craig on 26 November 2016, 18:48:42
Another Zooniverse project in perspective?
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 27 November 2016, 01:35:55
This may interest some.
 The Anthropocene  (http://iview.abc.net.au/programs/catalyst/SC1502H040S00)

Australian ABC Catalyst Show. S17, Ep40.
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: AvastMH on 27 November 2016, 07:09:23
Another Zooniverse project in perspective?

Wouldn't be surprised  :D
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: AvastMH on 27 November 2016, 07:10:47
This may interest some.
 The Anthropocene  (http://iview.abc.net.au/programs/catalyst/SC1502H040S00)

Australian ABC Catalyst Show. S17, Ep40.

Oh dear - ABC won't let me view it. But theere's been a lot going on at work about the Anthropocene - it's quite a big theme of ours now :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Michael on 27 November 2016, 16:46:05
Well it's that time of year. The last Saturday in November and time for the Canadian Football's Grey Cup game. (Named after Albert Henry George Grey, 4th Earl Grey GCB GCMG GCVO PC, a British nobleman and politician who served as Governor General of Canada, the ninth since Canadian Confederation.)

As we like to remind our neighbours to the south, our game is played on a field that is longer and wider, and the teams have three downs instead of four to make their 10 yard advance.

For those of you who suspect that I'm a football fan, I'm not. The CO of this vessel insists on watching one football game per year, and this is it.  ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Dean on 27 November 2016, 16:49:43
 ;D ;D ;D 8)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 27 November 2016, 17:31:22
I suppose one a year is acceptable (just).

The Australian field is even bigger and the same team keeps playing for each term. (not changing for no apparent reason)
See
 Ozi rules  (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Australian_rules_football_playing_field)
and
 How to play  (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Australian_rules_football)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 28 November 2016, 01:28:35
Missing ships?
http://www.news.com.au/technology/science/the-mystery-of-world-war-ii-shipwrecks-that-have-vanished/news-story/2e13b83a950880a2f4525bc55b1441cf?pid=oubrain:organic (http://www.news.com.au/technology/science/the-mystery-of-world-war-ii-shipwrecks-that-have-vanished/news-story/2e13b83a950880a2f4525bc55b1441cf?pid=oubrain:organic)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: AvastMH on 28 November 2016, 14:41:40
Missing ships?
http://www.news.com.au/technology/science/the-mystery-of-world-war-ii-shipwrecks-that-have-vanished/news-story/2e13b83a950880a2f4525bc55b1441cf?pid=oubrain:organic (http://www.news.com.au/technology/science/the-mystery-of-world-war-ii-shipwrecks-that-have-vanished/news-story/2e13b83a950880a2f4525bc55b1441cf?pid=oubrain:organic)

Still can't believe they could go missing  :-\  I suppose it's a good point that no-one was keeping a regular eye on them. Though I wonder how regular that eye would have to be to catch someone at it.
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Bob on 01 December 2016, 08:10:02
Here's one for folks that do the animal camera projects...

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/animalia/wp/2016/11/30/people-in-gorilla-costumes-photobombed-a-police-camera-meant-to-track-a-cougar/
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: jil on 01 December 2016, 11:08:37
 ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: AvastMH on 01 December 2016, 14:21:51
 ;D ;D ;D Great job. I hope they traced who was playing the skunk because that was the most impressive performance  ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Randi on 02 December 2016, 13:12:34
Sutton Hoo bitumen links Syria with Anglo-Saxon England (http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-suffolk-38171657)

(http://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/624/cpsprodpb/AC2E/production/_92787044_capture.jpg)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: AvastMH on 02 December 2016, 16:43:24
Sutton Hoo bitumen links Syria with Anglo-Saxon England (http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-suffolk-38171657)
Awesome!!!  :o That's amazing science. They must have been super-linguists to do all of that trade :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: AvastMH on 02 December 2016, 16:45:45
Picture/illustration competition on the Zooniverse calendar more info here...
http://forum.oldweather.org/index.php?topic=4013.msg135625#msg135625  :D

Just got the the calendar - oh wowee! It's the Boat Shed at Port Lockroy.
Want to blow your minds?
Check out the panorama of Port Lockroy:
https://www.antarctic.eu/wp-content/panoramas/antarktis_2013/port-lockroy_en/Port-Lockroy.html
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Hanibal94 on 02 December 2016, 17:39:00
Very nice tour, Joan. Thanks for posting!

I love how the penguins are standing around like they own the place - oh wait, they probably do.  ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: AvastMH on 02 December 2016, 17:50:10
:D Yep - in fact they have everything well organized because humans sweep and wash down their paths over the rocks every day to keep them clean. Interestingly enough this colony just turned up sometime in the early 80s. When the snow is on the ground and it's really windy they shelter by the shed and appear to be queueing by one of the windows. We used to have a joke that they were waiting to buy stamps to send their postcards (left hand window), or getting ferry tickets to the far headland (right hand window).
The bone in the bottom right hand corner is an old whale jawbone, and to the left of the shed you can just make out the ribs of an old abandoned whaling boat. The shed closed for whaling in the 1960s.  :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Randi on 02 December 2016, 23:21:12
The Atlantis-style myths that turned out to be true (http://www.bbc.com/earth/story/20160118-the-atlantis-style-myths-of-sunken-lands-that-are-really-true)
(http://ichef.bbci.co.uk/wwfeatures/wm/live/1280_720/images/live/p0/3f/w0/p03fw0zp.jpg)
The Solomon Islands have lost a member (Credit: Robert Harding/Alamy Stock Photo)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: AvastMH on 04 December 2016, 10:45:46
The Atlantis-style myths that turned out to be true (http://www.bbc.com/earth/story/20160118-the-atlantis-style-myths-of-sunken-lands-that-are-really-true)
The Solomon Islands have lost a member (Credit: Robert Harding/Alamy Stock Photo)

That's an amazing article Randi - fascinating. Personally I have no problem with stories going from generation to generation over thousands of years. Especially when that information may be essential to your survival :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: AvastMH on 04 December 2016, 10:47:05
http://www.ibtimes.com/noctilucent-cloud-season-came-antarctica-earlier-usual-year-nasa-satellite-reveals-2454441

More bad news for planet earth...thanks to gardenmaeve at PW for this one. The clouds are beautiful, but heralds of hard times to come for the planet.
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Craig on 04 December 2016, 11:13:56
Thanks, Joan. So much for Keats's "a thing of beauty is a joy forever"  :(
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Caro on 05 December 2016, 11:23:37
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cy6hjHTWgAA8WNT.jpg:large)

@UkNatArchives

Captain's Log for HMS Pearl detailing the hunt for the #pirate Blackbeard #twitterstorian http://socsi.in/yE4Vi


Wow. :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Randi on 05 December 2016, 11:56:42
Ink Wow ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: jil on 05 December 2016, 12:14:50
Weather data a bit vague  ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: AvastMH on 05 December 2016, 16:21:47
I think we're pre-lime juice here aren't we - back in the age of scurvy?  :-\
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Randi on 05 December 2016, 18:18:37
Well, yes and no...

Log is 1718

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scurvy

Quote
In the 13th century, the Crusaders frequently suffered from scurvy. In the 1497 expedition of Vasco de Gama, the curative effects of citrus fruit were already known[22][23] and confirmed by Pedro ?lvares Cabral and his crew in 1507.[24]

The Portuguese also planted fruit trees and vegetables in Saint Helena, a stopping point for homebound voyages from Asia, and left their sick, suffering from scurvy and other ailments to be taken home, if they recovered, by the next ship.[25]

Unfortunately, these travel accounts have not stopped further maritime tragedies caused by scurvy, first because of the lack of communication between travelers and those responsible for their health and also because fruits and vegetables could not be kept for long on ships.[26]

In 1536, the French explorer Jacques Cartier, exploring the St. Lawrence River, used the local natives' knowledge to save his men who were dying of scurvy. He boiled the needles of the arbor vitae tree (Eastern White Cedar) to make a tea that was later shown to contain 50 mg of vitamin C per 100 grams.[27][28] Such treatments were not available aboard ship, where the disease was most common.

Between 1500 and 1800, it has been estimated that scurvy killed at least two million sailors.[29] Jonathan Lamb wrote: "In 1499, Vasco da Gama lost 116 of his crew of 170; In 1520, Magellan lost 208 out of 230;...all mainly to scurvy."[30]

In 1593, Admiral Sir Richard Hawkins advocated drinking orange and lemon juice as a means of preventing scurvy.[31]

In 1614 John Woodall, Surgeon General of the East India Company, published "The Surgion's Mate" as a handbook for apprentice surgeons aboard the company's ships. He repeated the experience of mariners that the cure for scurvy was fresh food or, if not available, oranges, lemons, limes and tamarinds.[32] He was, however, unable to explain the reason why and his assertion had no impact on the opinion of the influential physicians who ran the medical establishment that it was a digestive complaint.

Quote
A Scottish surgeon in the Royal Navy, James Lind, was the first to prove it could be treated with citrus fruit in a 1753 publication.[2][5] His experiments represented the first controlled trial. It took another 40 years before the British Navy began giving out lemon juice routinely.[6]

Quote
In 1764, a new variant appeared. Advocated by Dr David McBride and Sir John Pringle, Surgeon General of the Army and later President of the Royal Society, this idea was that scurvy was the result of a lack of ?fixed air? in the tissues which could be prevented by drinking infusions of malt and wort whose fermentation within the body would stimulate digestion and restore the missing gases.[40] These ideas receiving wide and influential backing, when James Cook set off to circumnavigate the world (1768?1771) in HM Bark Endeavour, malt and wort were top of the list of the remedies he was ordered to investigate. The others were beer, sour crout and Lind's ?rob?. The list did not include lemons.[41]

Cook did not lose a single man to scurvy, and his report came down in favour of malt and wort, although it is now clear that the reason for the health of his crews on this and other voyages was Cook's regime of shipboard cleanliness, enforced by strict discipline, as well as frequent replenishment of fresh food and green stuffs.[42] Another rule implemented by Cook was his prohibition of the consumption of salt fat skimmed from the ship's copper boiling pans, then a common practice in the Navy. In contact with air the copper formed compounds that prevented the absorption of vitamins by the intestines.[43]

Quote
West Indian limes began to supplement lemons when Spain's alliance with France against Britain in the Napoleonic Wars made the supply of Mediterranean lemons problematic and because they were more easily obtained from Britain's Caribbean colonies[22] and were believed to be more effective because they were more acidic, and it was the acid, not the (then-unknown) Vitamin C that was believed to cure scurvy. In fact, the West Indian limes were significantly lower in Vitamin C than the previous lemons and further were not served fresh but rather as lime juice, which had been exposed to light and air and piped through copper tubing, all of which significantly reduced the Vitamin C. Indeed, a 1918 animal experiment using representative samples of the Navy and Merchant Marine's lime juice showed that it had virtually no antiscorbutic power at all.[22]

Quote
At the time Robert Falcon Scott made his first expedition (1901?1904) to the Antarctic in the early 20th century, the prevailing theory was that scurvy was caused by "ptomaine poisoning", particularly in tinned meat.[51] However, Scott discovered that a diet of fresh meat from Antarctic seals cured scurvy before any fatalities occurred.[52]



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Scurvy does not occur in most animals as they can make their own vitamin C. However, humans and other higher primates (the simians?monkeys and apes?and tarsiers), guinea pigs, most or all bats, and some species of birds and fish lack an enzyme (L-gulonolactone oxidase) necessary for such synthesis and must obtain vitamin C through their diet. The gene for L-gulonolactone oxidase is still present in the human genome, but deactivated by DNA mutations.



Quote
Although towards the end of the century MacBride's theories were being challenged, the medical establishment in Britain remained wedded to the notion that scurvy was a disease of internal ?putrefaction? and the Sick and Hurt Board, run by administrators, felt obliged to follow its advice. Within the Royal Navy however opinion - strengthened by first-hand experience of the use of lemon juice at the siege of Gibraltar and during Admiral Rodney's expedition to the Caribbean - had become increasingly convinced of its efficacy. This was reinforced by the writings of experts like Gilbert Blane[45] and Thomas Trotter[46] and by the reports of up-and-coming naval commanders.

With the coming of war in 1793, the need to eliminate scurvy acquired a new urgency. But the first initiative came not from the medical establishment but from the admirals. Ordered to lead an expedition against Mauritius, Rear Admiral Gardner was uninterested in the wort, malt and elixir of vitriol which were still being issued to ships of the Royal Navy, and demanded that he be supplied with lemons to counteract scurvy on the voyage. Members of the Sick and Hurt Board, recently augmented by two practical naval surgeons, supported the request and the Admiralty ordered that it be done. There was however a last minute change of plan. The expedition against Mauritius was cancelled. On 2 May 1794, only HMS Suffolk and two sloops under Commodore Peter Rainier sailed for the east with an outward bound convoy, but the warships were fully supplied with lemon juice and the sugar with which it had to be mixed. Then in March 1795, came astonishing news. Suffolk had arrived in India after a four-month voyage without a trace of scurvy and with a crew that was healthier than when it set out.
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 06 December 2016, 03:21:56
Some may find this nice. It has nice relaxing music as well.
https://cosmosmagazine.com/space/nocturnal-photography (https://cosmosmagazine.com/space/nocturnal-photography)

I have been to the waterfall in Iceland but it did not look quite like the pic.   :o
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Randi on 08 December 2016, 10:45:08
https://www.sciencenews.org/blog/science-public/youve-probably-been-tricked-fake-news-and-dont-know-it :o :'(
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Bob on 08 December 2016, 12:17:24
https://www.sciencenews.org/blog/science-public/youve-probably-been-tricked-fake-news-and-dont-know-it :o :'(

I deleted my Facebook account early morning November 9. I don't do Twitter, but the major media outlets still have the annoying habit of re-tweeting, um, 'stuff' as headline news.
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Helen J on 08 December 2016, 13:03:56
I don't do Twitter either, and I don't use Facebook as a source of news.  My default position is probably one of scepticism, unless I know and trust the source of a story.
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Michael on 08 December 2016, 14:21:50
I don't do Twitter either, and I don't use Facebook as a source of news.  My default position is probably one of scepticism, unless I know and trust the source of a story.

No Twitter, no Facebook, no SnapChat, no Instagram.

My position, too, is one of scepticism. I wrote off a lot of news organizations when they reported all those WMDs in Iraq and other similar stories which later turned out to be false.  ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: AvastMH on 08 December 2016, 15:15:19
Well, yes and no...

Log is 1718


Sorry Randi - I only just got round to reading this - it's fascinating.  :) I wonder if the men were quite so happy at losing the beer-products in favour of sugary lemon juice. hough I'm sure that not having your gums go off and your teeth falling out should have been ample compensation. I seem to recall hearing that the lemon juice usede by the Brits was boiled with the sugar, apparently the US used neat lemon. So the Brits reduce the level  of vitamin C that they supplied in the early days.  ::)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Dean on 08 December 2016, 16:25:20
I don't do Twitter either, and I don't use Facebook as a source of news.  My default position is probably one of scepticism, unless I know and trust the source of a story.

FaceBook only because a boat group & a weather group I work with use it to share information the way we do here.

I don't read the ads or the 'news' there.
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Maikel on 09 December 2016, 04:30:37
I'm using Twitter, not to read the (fake) news, but to spread the gospel of Old Weater, naval-history.net and Journey Plotter. :D
https://twitter.com/journeyplotter (https://twitter.com/journeyplotter)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Michael on 09 December 2016, 13:03:52
I have a very simple website (http://members.shaw.ca/marymcavoy/) which is hosted for free by our ISP. However, our ISP is discontinuing this service  >:( and I need to find another free web hosting service. All I need is to be able to FTP four updated files each day (weather forecasts for four cities, used by my children). Does anyone have any suggestions? The few I have looked at are overly complicated for what I need.

Thank you...
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: AvastMH on 09 December 2016, 14:32:56
I'm using Twitter, not to read the (fake) news, but to spread the gospel of Old Weater, naval-history.net and Journey Plotter. :D
https://twitter.com/journeyplotter (https://twitter.com/journeyplotter)

In this case I whole-heartedly approve of twitter :D
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Bob on 09 December 2016, 15:05:56
I have a very simple website (http://members.shaw.ca/marymcavoy/) which is hosted for free by our ISP. However, our ISP is discontinuing this service  >:( and I need to find another free web hosting service. All I need is to be able to FTP four updated files each day (weather forecasts for four cities, used by my children). Does anyone have any suggestions? The few I have looked at are overly complicated for what I need.

Full web hosting may be overkill for what you've got there. Have you considered going to a blog format? I think you may find better (and simpler) options with blogging hosts.
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: AvastMH on 10 December 2016, 14:05:38
Just starting on Channel 4 (UK) - The Battle of Jutland. Likely to be a repeat but looks good :D

Oh horror - the German ship The Lutzow was torpedoed by the Germans knowing that 800 men were still inside, alive. It is simply beyond my comprehension.  :'( :'( :'(
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Tegwen on 11 December 2016, 14:25:27
HMS Caroline is now in dry dock.

Some fantastic pictures of her " out of the water " here.

If I may, without being sexist, she has a very shapely bottom too.

https://www.facebook.com/NMRNPortsmouth/?hc_ref=NEWSFEED

K
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: AvastMH on 11 December 2016, 15:10:10
Shapely bottoms lead to the best speeds, manouevrability, and fuel consumption. I'm glad that she has a good bottom  :D
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 11 December 2016, 15:18:35
Pity the poor sailors who had to scrape and red lead her.  :o
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: AvastMH on 11 December 2016, 16:41:32
Pity the poor sailors who had to scrape and red lead her.  :o

 :o :o :o
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 12 December 2016, 01:33:38
100 fully decorated Christmas trees in a house in Germany, I am lost for words   :-X

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-12-12/christmas-tree-collection-in-small-german-town/8111482 (http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-12-12/christmas-tree-collection-in-small-german-town/8111482)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Craig on 12 December 2016, 05:58:44
Two words come to my mind: Fire Hazard  ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Randi on 12 December 2016, 10:46:39
Two words come to my mind: artificial trees ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Michael on 12 December 2016, 13:57:00
Two words come to my mind: artificial trees ;)

In the old days, the Germans had lighted candles on their trees. At least these people were clever enough to go modern and use electric lights.
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: JamesAPrattIII on 12 December 2016, 14:07:46
I have some comments on the SMS Lutzow reply 12513 the ship according to wiki had 115 killed and 50 wounded during the battle of Jutland. It mentions 6 men trapped in the bow before the ship was abandoned and sunk. It looks like the news got it wrong AGAIN!
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Randi on 12 December 2016, 14:20:44
I saw the wiki comment. Could that be wrong?
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Craig on 12 December 2016, 14:51:43
Two words come to my mind: artificial trees ;)

In the old days, the Germans had lighted candles on their trees. At least these people were clever enough to go modern and use electric lights.

A short circuit somewhere could cause and equally bad fire but possibly artificial trees are fire resistant?
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: AvastMH on 12 December 2016, 15:48:02
Perhaps the Lutzow will never be completely understood? It seems to me that the Battle of Jutland was a battle of stories made by those who did not want the truth to be known  :-\
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Randi on 12 December 2016, 21:42:02
Don Juan Pond in Antarctica
The world's saltiest body of water
(http://www.bbc.com/earth/story/20160809-earths-saltiest-place-makes-the-dead-sea-look-like-tapwater)

(http://ichef.bbci.co.uk/wwfeatures/wm/live/1280_720/images/live/p0/44/5f/p0445f8m.jpg)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 13 December 2016, 01:09:14
31c (87f) 29% humidity on the veranda now, 17:00 hrs.   :o
My brow is as salty as the Don Juan Pond    :(

From the Sydney Morning Herald.13 Dec 2017
Sydney has clocked its hottest December day in 11 years.
The city's temperature reached 37.8 degrees - or almost two degrees more than forecast - just after 1pm.

Sydney's record high minimum temperature for December is 26.3 degrees, set in on Christmas Day,1868.
"There is a good chance we could break that," Ms Langton said.
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Michael on 13 December 2016, 09:59:23
Yesterday I was speaking, briefly, to my daughter, who lives about an hour or so north of Sydney. Only briefly because she was at work. I was surprised that she was at work because she often works from home. When I asked her why she was at work, she said, "Because it's 36 outside and my work has air conditioning!" Like Sydney, Gosford also reached 37.8C. (100F for those of you still living in the 19th Century.)  ;D

Right now, we are -1.1C.
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Randi on 13 December 2016, 13:59:11
Snowing!
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Michael on 13 December 2016, 14:19:24
N 1-3 30.33 75 36 33 b None     :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Michael on 13 December 2016, 15:59:49
Don't you just love it when they get a new supply of ink (http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USCS%20Patterson/Book%20126/IMG_4649_0.jpg)...  :(

It was enough to make me clean my glasses...  :-[
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Randi on 13 December 2016, 16:15:40
Sorry?

I don't see any problem.

 ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: AvastMH on 13 December 2016, 16:30:03
Sorry?

I don't see any problem.

 ;D

Groooooaaaaaannnn  ;) ;) ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 14 December 2016, 00:41:37
Don't you just love it when they get a new supply of ink (http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USCS%20Patterson/Book%20126/IMG_4649_0.jpg)...  :(

It was enough to make me clean my glasses...  :-[

I thought they ran out of ink after the first entry ?
What did I miss  ???
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Randi on 14 December 2016, 11:48:31
Atlantic wave biggest ever recorded by buoy (http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-38312935)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: AvastMH on 14 December 2016, 12:55:17
Atlantic wave biggest ever recorded by buoy (http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-38312935)

 :o :o :o Oh a life on the ocean wave, tral-la-la-la-la-la-laaaaa
So glad I wasn't on a ship going over that lot!
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: AvastMH on 14 December 2016, 15:50:01
Just working through today's comments on PW and found this scene - the cutest of the cute chicks - heart meltingly sweet

(http://i.imgur.com/eY0eC3t.png)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: jil on 14 December 2016, 15:52:10
Awww - bless!
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Randi on 15 December 2016, 10:29:38
I just got an email from the National Archives!



Spotlight on Records - Navy Deck Logs

Deck logs from U.S. Navy ships are daily chronological entries documenting the administrative activities of a ship. Deck logs can be useful to genealogists, researchers, and historians as information contained within logs may include details about ship movement, meteorological and operational accounts, sick lists, injuries, honors and even arrests during a particular month. It is no surprise that deck logs are among the most popular U.S. Navy records in the holdings of the National Archives.
 
As we remember the 75th anniversary of the attack on Pearl Harbor, you may be interested to see what the deck logs from December 7, 1941 reported about the events of the day.

Chris Carter, Archivist at the National Archives in College Park, explains the importance of the deck logs from the USS Maryland during the attack on Pearl Harbor:

https:/youtube.com/embed/I0WGuva4Rmo

While the December 1941 deck log from the USS Maryland is not yet available in the National Archives Catalog, the deck log from the USS Monaghan (DD-354) (https://catalog.archives.gov/id/24360787?utm_source=OldWeather&utm_campaign=deck_logs&utm_content=uss_monaghan) includes details about the attack and its engagement with a Japanese submarine on December 7.

(https://catalog.archives.gov/OpaAPI/media/24360787/content/dc-metro/rg-024/594258/0001-A1/Monaghan-DD-354-1941-12/Monaghan-DD-354-1941-12_0022.JPG)
A portion of USS Monaghan (DD-354), December 1941, page 22, for December 7th.

Over the last five years, more than 13,500 deck logs have been digitized by National Archives staff and are available in the National Archives Catalog: "Logbooks of the U.S. Navy Ships and Stations, 1941-1978 (https://catalog.archives.gov/id/594258?utm_source=OldWeather&utm_campaign=deck_logs&utm_content=logbooks_594258)."  This represents just 2% of the entire series! Deck logs are added to the Catalog as file units, and each file unit represents one month of logs on a US Navy ship. This series contains more than 44,000 physical boxes and is being digitized at a rate of between 2,000-2,500 monthly deck logs each year. National Archives staff are currently digitizing and adding deck logs from the Vietnam War to the Catalog.

Are you interested in Navy deck logs from a particular ship? You can learn more about deck logs and how to search and request them (https://text-message.blogs.archives.gov/2013/11/01/know-your-records-u-s-navy-deck-logs/?OldWeather&utm_campaign=deck_logs&utm_content=know_your).

Every record tells a story. Archivist Rachel Sutcliffe describes some hidden treasures (https://narations.blogs.archives.gov/2010/07/21/hidden-treasures-from-within-navy-deck-logs/?utm_source=OldWeather&utm_campaign=deck_logs&utm_content=hidden) she's discovered within Navy deck logs.

In commemoration of the 75th anniversary of the attack on Pearl Harbor, we also invite you to tag selected records and photographs (https://www.archives.gov/citizen-archivist/tag/missions?utm_source=OldWeather&utm_campaign=deck%20logs&utm_content=pearl%20harbor) in the National Archives Catalog related to the attack on Pearl Harbor, Hawaii, on December 7, 1941.

Have you conducted research using Navy Deck logs? Find something interesting? We'd love to hear more! Email us at catalog@nara.gov and tell us what you've discovered.



utm_source=Catalog%20Newsletter has been replaced with utm_source=OldWeather ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Michael on 15 December 2016, 11:17:59
I love these new ways of talking:

When asked if Canadian soldiers would remain in Iraq after March 2017, a Canadian general said,
Quote
Our posture is not oriented towards that future."

I have added to the list my daughter in Australia gave me. The government run agency for which she works has been privatized. The new management is a great source quotes:

Quote
Casting a positive leadership shadow...

Quote
You need to adjust the hue of your colour filter...

Quote
Your new stretch target is ...

Quote
Your feelings are valid.

When things go wrong, it isn't a mistake:
Quote
It's a learning opportunity.

Their vision statement is, "The best of both." My daughter said that even if it had been, "The worst of neither," they would have fallen short.    ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Bob on 15 December 2016, 12:57:28
My daughter said that even if it had been, "The worst of neither," they would have fallen short.    ;D ;D ;D

 ;D

I like that (The worst of neither), I'm going to use it.  ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Randi on 15 December 2016, 13:10:43
 ;D

When things go wrong, it isn't a mistake:
Quote
It's a learning opportunity.

Good judgement comes from experience.
Experience comes from bad judgement.
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: AvastMH on 15 December 2016, 13:19:59
I just got an email from the National Archives!

https:/youtube.com/embed/I0WGuva4Rmo


That's amazing Randi!  :D :D :D  and the video was, I thought, very moving. To think of what was happening all around the hands that typed that log book - every minute could be your last. It's good to have a reality check about the boats we deal with now and then  :-[
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Hanibal94 on 17 December 2016, 15:30:12
Quote from: Zooniverse Daily
On the fifth day of Christmas Zooniverse gave to me, five transcribed ships' logs!

What a coincidence - we completed the transcriptions of five ships this year!
Concord, Vicksburg, Jamestown 1879, Jamestown 1886 and, just a few hours ago, Thetis!
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: AvastMH on 17 December 2016, 15:33:49
Quote from: Zooniverse Daily
On the fifth day of Christmas Zooniverse gave to me, five transcribed ships' logs!

What a coincidence - we completed the transcriptions of five ships this year!
Concord, Vicksburg, Jamestown 1879, Jamestown 1886 and, just a few hours ago, Thetis!

 :D :D :D :D :D (that's 5 big smiles)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Michael on 17 December 2016, 18:35:19
I woke up this morning to this! Any ideas? I thought maybe ash from a nearby factory, but the nearest factory is in China. I thought maybe ash from a volcano, but none of them nearby, either. It was also very cold, at -1C (about 30F), which may be a hint. Do you think it is safe to go outside?  ;D ;D ;D

(http://i.imgur.com/obkyDJc.jpg)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Craig on 17 December 2016, 19:15:46
Given the time of year and the ambient temperature it may be explained by angel wing exfoliation due to exuberant batting - but that's just a guess  ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Dean on 17 December 2016, 19:20:01
Maybe God has a dandruff issue??!!  ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Helen J on 18 December 2016, 07:04:12
Given the time of year and the ambient temperature it may be explained by angel wing exfoliation due to exuberant batting - but that's just a guess  ;D


 ;D ;D ;D  I have to try to use 'angel wing exfoliation' somewhere!
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Michael on 18 December 2016, 10:41:54
Here's my Christmas present (https://www.dropbox.com/sh/qv4n7j3bl7r2cxk/AADNz80keTgbjC2jacOusizma?dl=0) to you, my fellow OW workers.

For many years I sang in the Whitehorse Community Choir, the largest choir north of 60. (We had anywhere from 100 to 130 members, depending on the program.) In 2008 we commissioned seven stories about Christmas in the Yukon. Some were taken from news archives (the story about the mail plane), some from diaries or stories from living people.

We also commissioned a number of songs to go with these stories. It was my favourite Christmas concert, and I have the archive recording from that concert. Listening to it yesterday, I thought some of you might enjoy the stories and maybe even the songs...

(http://i.imgur.com/dCBH2qP.jpg)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Craig on 18 December 2016, 14:42:25
Very nice, Michael. Thanks.  I enjoyed the tree stories as well as the singing.
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Michael on 18 December 2016, 15:19:15
Very nice, Michael. Thanks.  I enjoyed the tree stories as well as the singing.

Pam Lattin was a great Whitehorse character, his was the story about harvesting the tree.

Whitehorse musician Kim Barlow wrote The Best Christmas Tree Ever, and it had the best bass line for singing probably because she played cello, among other instruments. We let the audience choose our encore, and hers was the song they chose.  :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: AvastMH on 18 December 2016, 15:31:15
 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: JamesAPrattIII on 19 December 2016, 17:17:35
Gordon Smith who founded the navalhistory.net site died on 16 Dec 2016 according to the Imperial Japanese navy site combindedfleet.com. RIP
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: AvastMH on 19 December 2016, 17:40:29
Dear James,
Thank you so much for posting this sad news. It is touching to know that the Imperial Japanese Navy site has recognised Gordon Smith's passing.

Caro kindly posted this to our Editor's Suite earlier today:

Dear editors

We are sad to announce that Gordon passed away on Friday, December 16.
He died peacefully, with his family around him, at a Marie Curie hospice in Wales.

NHN will continue; Gordon made arrangements some time ago for the continuation of the website.

Caro and Maikel



If you would like to make a donation to Gordon's favourite charity, you can do so here:
http://cafod.org.uk/Give/Remembrance-giving/In-memory-giving
The site supplies a phone number and address for this purpose, as well as a facility for online donations using a credit or debit card.
Thank you all.

His Naval History.Net facebook page has many kind tributes.

Thank you again James,
Joan
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Randi on 19 December 2016, 18:50:22
Gordon Smith who founded the navalhistory.net site died on 16 Dec 2016 according to the Imperial Japanese navy site combindedfleet.com. RIP
That it is announced there is quite a tribute to Gordon.
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Michael on 20 December 2016, 15:27:31
With Patterson finished, there are five ships left. This was my estimate as of Dec 1st:


Albatross_1890   30392
Albatross_1900  139433
Jamestown_1844   89879
Unalga_1         16799
Yorktown        212036


With many relatives visiting and with being away for a week, I will be open to recruiting offers but until early in the New Year.  ;)

What with my continuing OW addiction, bribes will NOT be necessary...  ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: AvastMH on 21 December 2016, 03:45:38
At 10.44 GMT we celebrate the Winter Solstice. Happy Solstice everyone  :D :D :D

(http://i.imgur.com/8BOyKOo.png)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Hanibal94 on 21 December 2016, 07:05:28
With Patterson finished, there are five ships left. This was my estimate as of Dec 1st:

Here's my guesses on which ships are available and which are not:

Albatross_1890:   No. Silvia did one stream, me and leelaht are each doing another.
Albatross_1900:   Maybe. Hurlock and Stuart are working on her, and Silvia might still be active, but stream sharing might be possible.
Jamestown_1844:   Yes. Bob did one stream, Randi and Zovacor are active, but neither of them is super fast, so stream sharing should be possible. Just beware - this ship has four stars!
Unalga_1:   No. Matteo wants to finish his stream, so we should wait for him to do that. 
Yorktown:   Maybe not. Silvia, Maikel and Craig are all active, and I think Michael Purves will be rejoining now that the Patterson is complete.
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Bob on 21 December 2016, 08:35:43
Just a note about Jamestown 1844, it gets a lot easier towards the Civil War years. The grid gets consistent (no more picking stuff out of the text) and there are fewer columns than the later ships. Pressure and temperature are typically only every other hour, but always wind, so you get 24 WR per page.  ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Hanibal94 on 21 December 2016, 12:16:17
The man who returns medals to the soldiers that won them (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/resources/idt-5c1940d8-5f8f-4fd4-ac12-e216184a9a72)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 21 December 2016, 14:05:19
With Patterson finished, there are five ships left. This was my estimate as of Dec 1st:

Here's my guesses on which ships are available and which are not:

Albatross_1890:   No. Silvia did one stream, me and leelaht are each doing another.
Albatross_1900:   Maybe. Hurlock and Stuart are working on her, and Silvia might still be active, but stream sharing might be possible.
Jamestown_1844:   Yes. Bob did one stream, Randi and Zovacor are active, but neither of them is super fast, so stream sharing should be possible. Just beware - this ship has four stars!
Unalga_1:   No. Matteo wants to finish his stream, so we should wait for him to do that. 
Yorktown:   Maybe not. Silvia, Maikel and Craig are all active, and I think Michael Purves will be rejoining now that the Patterson is complete.

As you say, Albatross 1900 MAY be available BUT, Hurlock is doing a very good job of the activity pages and I am just doing the data pages. Silvia is still streaming ahead of us.
If we get more on this vessel then Hurlock will miss out on this valuable info. (over to you Hurlock for comment).
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: AvastMH on 21 December 2016, 15:12:27
The man who returns medals to the soldiers that won them (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/resources/idt-5c1940d8-5f8f-4fd4-ac12-e216184a9a72)
That's absolutely wonderful - what a kind kind person  :D :-* :D
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Hurlock on 21 December 2016, 15:45:44
With Patterson finished, there are five ships left. This was my estimate as of Dec 1st:

Here's my guesses on which ships are available and which are not:

Albatross_1890:   No. Silvia did one stream, me and leelaht are each doing another.
Albatross_1900:   Maybe. Hurlock and Stuart are working on her, and Silvia might still be active, but stream sharing might be possible.
Jamestown_1844:   Yes. Bob did one stream, Randi and Zovacor are active, but neither of them is super fast, so stream sharing should be possible. Just beware - this ship has four stars!
Unalga_1:   No. Matteo wants to finish his stream, so we should wait for him to do that. 
Yorktown:   Maybe not. Silvia, Maikel and Craig are all active, and I think Michael Purves will be rejoining now that the Patterson is complete.

As you say, Albatross 1900 MAY be available BUT, Hurlock is doing a very good job of the activity pages and I am just doing the data pages. Silvia is still streaming ahead of us.
If we get more on this vessel then Hurlock will miss out on this valuable info. (over to you Hurlock for comment).

I am chiefly interested in the events page and the history as it unfolds on the ship.  The difficulty really is that at my slow rate of transcription it might take me many years to complete the Albatross 1900 stream I am on.  I would not think that was a satisfactory situation.
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 21 December 2016, 16:15:02
If the Albatross 1900 is almost 50% complete, using my very bad maths,
Silvia has 52k plus.
Both Hurlock and I are roughly half of that each 20K & 24K.

Silvia should be almost finished which leaves Hurlock and I on roughly 50% each to go.
 
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Hanibal94 on 21 December 2016, 16:18:42
Okay - I'll leave to the moderators and scientists: Would you rather have all the weather transcriptions completed as soon as possible, or would you rather have good transcriptions of the events?

(I'm away with no Internet all day tomorrow and the next day, see you all on the 24th)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Randi on 21 December 2016, 17:01:22
I will pass your question on to Philip.

Have fun!
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 21 December 2016, 17:14:24
Okay - I'll leave to the moderators and scientists: Would you rather have all the weather transcriptions completed as soon as possible, or would you rather have good transcriptions of the events?

(I'm away with no Internet all day tomorrow and the next day, see you all on the 24th)

Enjoy the break.
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: AvastMH on 21 December 2016, 17:40:39
Yep - have a good break hanibal :D
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: leelaht on 21 December 2016, 19:16:13
I did some Jamestown a long time ago.  When I've maxed out on Albatross 1890 (in about 2 weeks), I may go back.
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: JamesAPrattIII on 21 December 2016, 21:38:30
Good to be of help 12555 Avastmh and 12556 Randi I wish I hadn't had such bad news. this was a very fine site.
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Randi on 21 December 2016, 21:43:03
Happy Birthday
to
Joan
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Michael on 21 December 2016, 21:48:03
Yes indeed!
And, I had no idea she was she was such a young chick.  :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Bob on 21 December 2016, 21:48:16
Happy Birthday!  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 21 December 2016, 22:30:41
Ditto Joan from Down Under.   ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Michael on 21 December 2016, 22:37:15
The Garbage Truck Santa (http://www.yukon-news.com/news/garbage-truck-santa-marks-25-years-of-christmas-cheer/)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Randi on 21 December 2016, 22:55:59
The Garbage Truck Santa (http://www.yukon-news.com/news/garbage-truck-santa-marks-25-years-of-christmas-cheer/)
Wonderful!
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Caro on 22 December 2016, 02:58:57
Many belated happies for yesterday, Joan  :-*
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: propriome on 22 December 2016, 03:06:07
Happy birthday Joan!!
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: studentforever on 22 December 2016, 04:28:04
Happy birthday, Joan. I bet you don't feel a year older
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: lollia paolina on 22 December 2016, 06:11:21
Happy Birthday, Joan!

Buon Compleanno!

:) :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: jil on 22 December 2016, 07:36:58
Happy Birthday, Joan!
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Randi on 22 December 2016, 09:40:57
A Belated
Happy Birthday
to
tastiger
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Craig on 22 December 2016, 10:08:44
Happy Birthday Joan and tasiger!
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Michael on 22 December 2016, 10:09:23
Yes, Happy Birthday to you, too!
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Michael on 22 December 2016, 10:10:52
Here's a note about using whaling logs (http://environmentalresearchweb.org/cws/article/news/67311) to map historical ice extent, although with no mention of Old Weather.  :(
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: AvastMH on 22 December 2016, 13:34:06
Thank you everyone for your kind birthday wishes!  I don't feel like 58 at all (I can kid myself can't I  ;) ;) ;D)

And happy belated birthday to tastiger  :D :D :D
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Randi on 22 December 2016, 14:45:39
I wish I felt like 58 ::) ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: jil on 22 December 2016, 16:08:13
Happy Birthday tastiger!
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: AvastMH on 22 December 2016, 16:17:01
I wish I felt like 58 ::) ;D

Not sure I can help with that but I wish I could  :D
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Michael on 23 December 2016, 00:09:00
Casting a positive leadership shadow, I have assigned you both stretch targets to feel like you're 58.

Or, maybe your target is to stretch like you're 58!   ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Maikel on 23 December 2016, 05:58:04
We're close to Christmas, so here's a moving and heart-warming story for you.

Six-year-old, terminally ill, Tijn raises over 1 million Euro for charity.
http://seriousrequest.3fm.nl/nieuws/detail/5351616/terminally-ill-tijn-6-went-to-the-glass-house-in-breda-with-one-last-wish (http://seriousrequest.3fm.nl/nieuws/detail/5351616/terminally-ill-tijn-6-went-to-the-glass-house-in-breda-with-one-last-wish)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: AvastMH on 23 December 2016, 12:22:11
Casting a positive leadership shadow, I have assigned you both stretch targets to feel like you're 58.

Or, maybe your target is to stretch like you're 58!   ;D

 ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: AvastMH on 23 December 2016, 12:31:34
We're close to Christmas, so here's a moving and heart-warming story for you.

Six-year-old, terminally ill, Tijn raises over 1 million Euro for charity.
http://seriousrequest.3fm.nl/nieuws/detail/5351616/terminally-ill-tijn-6-went-to-the-glass-house-in-breda-with-one-last-wish (http://seriousrequest.3fm.nl/nieuws/detail/5351616/terminally-ill-tijn-6-went-to-the-glass-house-in-breda-with-one-last-wish)

Well there we are then - you don't need to be an ancient 58 yrs old and have had a lot of time to do things. At 6 years old you can change the world for the better for a lot of other people with the only time you have.  It certainly is heart-warming Maikel  :D :D :D
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Randi on 23 December 2016, 13:39:20
Indeed. Heartwarming and a good lesson.
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 23 December 2016, 13:53:22
Some light reading for the Festive Season.
https://www.scribd.com/document/112373165/The-Physics-of-Christmas (https://www.scribd.com/document/112373165/The-Physics-of-Christmas)

See also,
https://santatracker.google.com/village.html
or get there by clicking   Follow Santas Journey   from Google home page, it has 24 games to keep you occupied.

And
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/christmas/0/tis-season-christmas-celebrated-around-world-monster-cats-burning/ (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/christmas/0/tis-season-christmas-celebrated-around-world-monster-cats-burning/)
(Pity about the ads when you want to watch the videos.)



fixed 2'nd link - Randi
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Randi on 23 December 2016, 15:06:47
For a change of pace...
Greenland sharks are absurdly slow and mostly blind, yet they may have spread far beyond the Arctic waters they are known from (http://www.bbc.co.uk/earth/story/20141028-the-mystery-shark-of-the-arctic)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: AvastMH on 23 December 2016, 15:17:26
So much science and wildlife :D Enjoyed all of your articles Randi and Stuart  :D
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Hanibal94 on 23 December 2016, 18:04:00
Happy belated Birthday, Joan and tastiger!

(Just got back from my mini vacation. Will go to bed soon)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Caro on 24 December 2016, 05:34:47
Santa is on his way to Fiji (according to Santa Tracker) so it's time to extend the compliments of the season.
From all of us to all of you.

 :) :-*

(https://goo.gl/Z9m5Mf)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: AvastMH on 24 December 2016, 14:43:40
Welcome back hanibal - thanks for your best wishes :D
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: AvastMH on 24 December 2016, 14:44:30
Santa is on his way to Fiji (according to Santa Tracker) so it's time to extend the compliments of the season.
From all of us to all of you.

 :) :-*

(https://goo.gl/Z9m5Mf)

 :-* :-* :-*
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 24 December 2016, 14:54:30
He has passed Oz and left Janeece and I a box of Chocolates. Yay (Well I assume it was for both of us  ::) ) ;D

Seasons Greeting to all.

Stuart & Janeece.
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: AvastMH on 24 December 2016, 15:31:19
Enjoy those chocs  Stuart and Janeece  ;D

He was in Helsinki a few minutes back and is now in Timișoara, Romania :D  I'm soooo excited  :D
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Randi on 24 December 2016, 20:02:36
(http://img06.deviantart.net/1e85/i/2011/353/b/0/mlp_fim_merry_christmas_by_louiseloo-d4jkvvq.png)



(http://www.darkhallmansion.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/MLP-Our-Pony-Christmas-Tree-e1354429158883.jpg)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: studentforever on 25 December 2016, 02:24:52
Happy Christmas one and all
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Maikel on 25 December 2016, 04:26:20
Merry Christmas and best wishes for 2017.

Again I've created an animated Christmas wish for your viewing pleasure (I hope :) ).
Follow this link to view it: https://youtube.com/embed/jgrysOYv8NM (https://youtube.com/embed/jgrysOYv8NM).
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: studentforever on 25 December 2016, 05:23:37
Reciprocated Maikel, I've even learned a bit of Dutch as well!
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: AvastMH on 25 December 2016, 07:09:21
(Brilliant pony post Randi!  ;D ;D ;D)



(http://i.imgur.com/Wlvdfpd.png)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Craig on 25 December 2016, 07:37:57
Merry Christmas everyone!
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Dean on 25 December 2016, 08:49:42
Merry Christmas, Happy Hanukah, Happy Kwanza, and what ever else I missed that needs Celebrated!!     ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Bob on 25 December 2016, 08:50:02
Merry Christmas, all!
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Hanibal94 on 25 December 2016, 09:44:02
Merry Christmas, everybody!

Impressive work, Maikel! Did you make the whole thing yourself?
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Maikel on 25 December 2016, 10:12:52
Impressive work, Maikel! Did you make the whole thing yourself?

Thanks. :D
And yes, I did.
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Hurlock on 25 December 2016, 11:01:09
Merry christmas everyone.

Great video Maikel.
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Dean on 25 December 2016, 12:25:33
WOW!!!!!!  Nice job Maikel!!!!   ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Michael on 25 December 2016, 12:50:47
Yes indeed, Maikel!!!

Merry Christmas, one and all!!!



Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Randi on 25 December 2016, 13:19:57
Merry Christmas and best wishes for 2017.

Again I've created an animated Christmas wish for your viewing pleasure (I hope :) ).
Follow this link to view it: https://youtube.com/embed/jgrysOYv8NM (https://youtube.com/embed/jgrysOYv8NM).

Thank you!
Impressive! I liked the idea of it writing out 2017 too ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: jil on 25 December 2016, 13:29:22
Merry Christmas!
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Tegwen on 26 December 2016, 05:15:46
slightly belated Merry Christmas to all.

I wish you the very best for 2017.

That animation is remarkable Maikel. congratulations.

Have fun
K
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: AvastMH on 26 December 2016, 08:58:17
Merry Christmas and best wishes for 2017.

Again I've created an animated Christmas wish for your viewing pleasure (I hope :) ).
Follow this link to view it: https://youtube.com/embed/jgrysOYv8NM (https://youtube.com/embed/jgrysOYv8NM).
Absolutely brilliant Maikel - hope you had as much fun making it as I did watching  ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: jil on 26 December 2016, 11:05:03
(Slightly delayed - didn't have time yesterday) Great animation, Maikel!
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Randi on 26 December 2016, 12:18:08
Some good news
Arctic kelp forests may create summer refuges from ocean acidification (https://www.sciencenews.org/article/arctic-kelp-forests-may-create-summer-refuges-ocean-acidification)
and some bad news (especially for those of us who transported reindeer)
World?s largest reindeer population may fall victim to climate change (https://www.sciencenews.org/blog/wild-things/worlds-largest-reindeer-population-may-fall-victim-climate-change?tgt=nr)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: AvastMH on 26 December 2016, 12:49:57
Some good news
Arctic kelp forests may create summer refuges from ocean acidification (https://www.sciencenews.org/article/arctic-kelp-forests-may-create-summer-refuges-ocean-acidification)
:D :D :D

and some bad news (especially for those of us who transported reindeer)
World?s largest reindeer population may fall victim to climate change (https://www.sciencenews.org/blog/wild-things/worlds-largest-reindeer-population-may-fall-victim-climate-change?tgt=nr)
:'( :'( :'(
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Thursday Next on 26 December 2016, 14:26:44
Belated Yuletide Greetings to everyone!

Love the video, Maikel!
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Helen J on 27 December 2016, 09:30:52
Distinctly belated Christmas greetings to all - but still plenty of celebratory days to enjoy.  Very impressed by your greetings, Maikel - I can't imagine how to even begin to do something like that.  We are a wonderfully creative lot ....
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Maikel on 27 December 2016, 10:05:30
Thank you all. :D

In case you want to have a go at it yourself, I've used Blender (http://www.blender.org/) to create the animation.
It's quite a complex bit of kit, though.
My animation was created over the course of about two months, and it took my old PC over 7 hours to render the 2 minutes and 20 seconds of animation. ::)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: AvastMH on 27 December 2016, 18:08:00
and it took my old PC over 7 hours to render the 2 minutes and 20 seconds of animation. ::)

 :o :o 8)

Thank you again then! ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 30 December 2016, 12:22:47
Hi all
At 11pm tonight (31/12/2016) AU time (noon UTC) we all will have an extra second added to the day.
That means an extra second to your next Birthday.  :o

Start planning for it NOW and enjoy it when it hits your time zone.
(Maikel, you have extra rendering time for your next work of art.)  ;D

(http://www.smh.com.au/content/dam/images/g/t/j/k/v/t/image.related.articleLeadNarrow.300x0.gt9szd.png/1483066634182.jpg)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: AvastMH on 30 December 2016, 15:47:39
Thanks Stuart - I never read through the comedies of Shakespeare in one go so I'll reserve that job to make the most of the extra time  ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Michael on 30 December 2016, 15:48:07
Even better, I have an extra second before I have to go to the gym!  :) :) :)

Always one to put things off, I finally made my 2016 resolution to stop going to the gym for the rest of the year!   ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Randi on 30 December 2016, 15:54:56
 ::) ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: AvastMH on 30 December 2016, 15:55:48
 ;D ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Craig on 30 December 2016, 18:00:11
That's a good trick. A retro resolution! You wait to the end of the year and make a resolution that conforms to your actions. A resolution that can't be broken  :D

You're on to something there, Michael.

Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Randi on 30 December 2016, 18:44:22
Definitely!
I have all tomorrow to think about it.
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: AvastMH on 30 December 2016, 18:48:50
I've carefully kept a New Year's Resolution for the last 15 or so years - and what was it?  To never to make another New Year's Resolution  ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Craig on 30 December 2016, 19:35:12
You can't get away with that, Joan. Resolutions must be renewed every year so you will be breaking your resolution by renewing your resolution.  Otherwise, it just lapses. Sorry  :'(

Of course, you can always lie about it. We're in the post-truth era after all.  ;D

Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Hanibal94 on 31 December 2016, 04:20:02
My strategy: Just pick one easy resolution each year.
Stuff like:

"I resolve to visit a new country this year!" -> made in 2008, when I already knew we would be going to Spain, a new country for me, later that year.
"I resolve not to miss more than 10 days of school due to being sick!" -> I almost never get sick.
"I resolve to earn some new rights this year" -> made in 2012, the year I turned 18 and got a lot of new rights.

This year, it shall be "I resolve to finish off my stream on the Albatross 1890!".
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Michael on 31 December 2016, 10:58:11
I'm still stuck here in 2016.  :'( For any of you living in the future (i.e. 2017) please advise if it's worth moving into 2017.  :-\   Enquiring minds need to know...  ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Helen J on 31 December 2016, 11:04:07
You mean we have a choice about it?  Mind you, I'm not sure I'm at all tempted to stay in 2016 ....  ???
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Hanibal94 on 31 December 2016, 12:07:16
I don't want to stay either...

The Earth is sad.
Very very sad.
She had a bad year.
What a year the Earth had!


(http://img08.deviantart.net/46c8/i/2014/105/1/3/sad_earth_by_reji_tsukoiyo-d7elm6f.png)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: AvastMH on 31 December 2016, 12:27:23
That's how I feel about the planet, hanibal.  :'( 

Sat wearing two jumpers, thick socks, and thinking of making a pair of finger-less gloves for sessions on the computer  :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Dean on 31 December 2016, 16:23:21
That's how I feel about the planet, hanibal.  :'( 

Sat wearing two jumpers, thick socks, and thinking of making a pair of finger-less gloves for sessions on the computer  :)

Check out your neighborhood boat chandlery. They HAVE fingerless gloves for sailors. (You need the fingertips for fine tuning, etc.0 I have 2 pair - one by GILL & one by HARKEN!)   ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2016
Post by: Randi on 31 December 2016, 17:05:48
Brinicle 'finger of death'
Under the polar ice form deadly icicles of salt
(http://www.bbc.com/earth/story/20161219-brinicle-finger-of-death)