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Title: Chat - 2015
Post by: Hanibal94 on 01 January 2015, 00:06:26
Now that it really is 2015 in New Jersey, I can say...

Happy New Year!

(http://blog.ubi.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/AC4BF_CA_SP_01_CaribbeanSea.jpg)

Here's to more victories on OW! I hope to complete my parts on the Patterson, Concord and Jamestown 1866.
This past year, I managed the Pioneer, Bear and Unalga - and the Perry too.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 01 January 2015, 00:59:14
A nice start to the year 36c
Hope you all have good weather for the next year.
Must go out and try to get rid of that pale look.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: lollia paolina on 01 January 2015, 02:29:42
Buon Anno Old Weather!!!
Happy New Year everyone


:)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 01 January 2015, 02:36:43
Thank you Silvia.
Nice pic.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Maikel on 01 January 2015, 03:35:14
Happy New Year and all the best wishes.

I would like to take the opportunity to give you a summary of 2014.
There have been months like January, February, um, June, April, um, November, and others, I'm sure.
My sincere apologies if I've left something out. ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Randi on 01 January 2015, 04:04:04
Happy New Year to my fellow OWaholics !
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Post by: jil on 01 January 2015, 04:10:29
Happy New Year to everyone!
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Post by: Craig on 01 January 2015, 06:26:54
Excellent recap of 2014, Maikel, although I might quibble a bit about your including June.
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Post by: Helen J on 01 January 2015, 09:54:01
Happy New Year to one and all - may we sail on into 2015 in good spirits and with fingers working better than ever!
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Dean on 01 January 2015, 10:01:15
Happy New Year to all!! May your year be filled with Joy and Blessings!!



With MY luck when my ship sails in I'll be at the airport!!   ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Thursday Next on 01 January 2015, 15:00:58
Happy New Year to Everyone!
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Michael on 01 January 2015, 16:41:11
We're among the last to see the New Year, Alaska and Hawaii are even slower than us, but we still wish you
All the best for 2015!
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Dean on 01 January 2015, 19:19:04
We're among the last to see the New Year, Alaska and Hawaii are even slower than us, but we still wish you
All the best for 2015!

And Pommey and Howard were WAY ahead of us all!!   8)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 01 January 2015, 19:20:53
We're among the last to see the New Year, Alaska and Hawaii are even slower than us, but we still wish you
All the best for 2015!

And Pommey and Howard were WAY ahead of us all!!   8)

In everything (As you would expect.)   %^)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Kevin on 02 January 2015, 14:33:58
Cool picture of Navy icebreakers escorting the RRS John Biscoe through a sea of young ice in Antarctica:

https://flic.kr/p/pypdGh

A fine example of finger-rafting in thin ice.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Randi on 02 January 2015, 14:47:54
Neat!
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Post by: AvastMH on 02 January 2015, 15:12:34
Amazing view!
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Caro on 03 January 2015, 04:05:05
Wonderful collection of photos there. Thanks Kevin.

Morning all. So, what day is this?
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: AvastMH on 03 January 2015, 04:32:06
For me it's the day of the Pub Quizzers' (my 'other' life) Christmas lunch. Last night I was just about to put the 7.5lb pudding in the pot, when I dropped it on the floor - it was well covered so should have been fine, but the bowl was glass and shattered. Luckily 6.5 lb of, as yet unused, pudding mix was left in the mixing bowl and another pudding bowl was found.  I'll just say that transcribing is so relaxing.   ::) ;) ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Caro on 03 January 2015, 04:50:28
Enjoy your lunch, Joan, especially the pudding.  ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Kookaburra on 03 January 2015, 13:24:28
Cool picture of Navy icebreakers escorting the RRS John Biscoe through a sea of young ice in Antarctica:

https://flic.kr/p/pypdGh

A fine example of finger-rafting in thin ice.
I have been showing this picture off to a lot of friends.  They agree it is fascinating (or else they pretend to do so to humor me)

Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Randi on 03 January 2015, 13:29:46
... or if they value their health ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: AvastMH on 03 January 2015, 14:43:44
Enjoy your lunch, Joan, especially the pudding.  ;)
It was great, thanks - and the pudding looked fabulous in flames (perhaps a little TOO much brandy..ahem!) as we sang Happy Birthday  - oh dear - we stopped and tried 'We wish you a merry Christmas'. The flames burnt long enough to singe a bit of the pud (this is absolutely expected as part of the fun package, most especially by the kids).  ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Hanibal94 on 03 January 2015, 15:09:23
Good evening OW.

Sadly, my vacation has come to an end and I have been forced to return to Germany  :(
I just finished unpacking and shopping after over 12 hours of travelling, and I'm gonna go to bed soon to try and fight off that jetlag.

*Sigh* my grandma's house is such a great place, and leaving it always makes me feel miserable... Can I have a hug, please?  :'( :'( :'(
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 03 January 2015, 15:20:21
For hanibal (and others)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 03 January 2015, 15:39:43
(http://i756.photobucket.com/albums/xx206/XiledSpawn/Random/130890035051.png)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Michael on 03 January 2015, 15:48:30
Rest up, Hanibal. You've got a big job ahead trying to bring freedom and democracy to the Philippines with the good ship Concord.

Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Helen J on 03 January 2015, 15:57:53
Sending you a virtual hug, hanibal - hope you get over the jetlag soon.  Being young probably helps!
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: AvastMH on 03 January 2015, 16:21:13
Oh dear - HUG your pillow 'til it squeaks. Tomorrow will be a brighter day. Welcome home.

(http://imageshack.com/a/img540/2666/ELFdA4.gif)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Randi on 03 January 2015, 16:24:38
(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-7Kdf0qBEXQA/Ubadd8B50JI/AAAAAAAAANI/5perTk-Iz-U/s1600/Cats+Hug.jpg)
Sleep well
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Caro on 03 January 2015, 17:09:18
(http://twistedsifter.files.wordpress.com/2014/05/longcat-hug-gif-remix-reddit-funny-1.gif)

 ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Helen J on 04 January 2015, 10:22:30
What a wonderful picture, Caro!
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Hanibal94 on 04 January 2015, 14:47:25
Thank you very much, everybody - it's great to get all this emotional support, and all the nice pictures.
I'm feeling better now that all the travelling is done, and I'm getting used to 'normal' life again.

Plus, I went to see my mom and chat with her about my issues and worries. That really helped - being back doesn't seem as awful now as as it did at first.

Thanks again everyone. I really wouldn't be the same without you all.


A very grateful Hanibal94
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Randi on 04 January 2015, 14:54:37
Glad to hear you are feeling a bit better!
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: studentforever on 04 January 2015, 15:14:07
Keep smiling!!
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Randi on 04 January 2015, 16:18:06
Onions are eaten and grown in more countries than any other vegetable (http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-30549150) ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Michael on 04 January 2015, 17:25:28
Just to change the subject... I have seen this at least half a dozen times on the Concord in the last month or so of ship time:

Sent whale boat ashore for sand.

Sometimes they have to send the crew armed because of hostilities, so the sand is important. Why are they getting sand every few days? Are they making Japanese sand gardens to help with PTSD? Bulking up the morning oatmeal to stretch out supplies?  ;)

Curious mind needs to know...
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Randi on 04 January 2015, 17:58:23
I've seen that too. Perhaps it was an early version of scouring powder?
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: AvastMH on 04 January 2015, 19:48:27
Onions are eaten and grown in more countries than any other vegetable (http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-30549150) ;D

Astonishing. But it's a rare savoury recipe that doesn't start with 'chop so many onions'. AND you should try getting hold of real purple shallots for pickling these days - nightmare! :o  ::)
Given it's onions shouldn't you have used a crying smiley? (joke!)   ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: AvastMH on 04 January 2015, 19:50:37
Just to change the subject... I have seen this at least half a dozen times on the Concord in the last month or so of ship time:

Sent whale boat ashore for sand.

Sometimes they have to send the crew armed because of hostilities, so the sand is important. Why are they getting sand every few days? Are they making Japanese sand gardens to help with PTSD? Bulking up the morning oatmeal to stretch out supplies?  ;)

Curious mind needs to know...

refreshing a sand pit for deck quoits (to relax after a stressful day shooting insurgents of course)? :D

 oh no! I know! It's for weighting down your crew to stop them running away so much.  ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: AvastMH on 04 January 2015, 19:54:06
Thank you very much, everybody - it's great to get all this emotional support, and all the nice pictures.
I'm feeling better now that all the travelling is done, and I'm getting used to 'normal' life again.

Plus, I went to see my mom and chat with her about my issues and worries. That really helped - being back doesn't seem as awful now as as it did at first.

Thanks again everyone. I really wouldn't be the same without you all.


A very grateful Hanibal94

Great to hear you're bubbling back up for air!
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 04 January 2015, 20:14:23
Just to change the subject... I have seen this at least half a dozen times on the Concord in the last month or so of ship time:

Sent whale boat ashore for sand.

Sometimes they have to send the crew armed because of hostilities, so the sand is important. Why are they getting sand every few days? Are they making Japanese sand gardens to help with PTSD? Bulking up the morning oatmeal to stretch out supplies?  ;)

Curious mind needs to know...

Sometimes googling produces more than I ever expected to get.  A 47-page instruction manual on "chipping and painting" makes it clear that sand paper is required.  If they don't have gritty holystones, would they use loose sand instead?  (The article does have a sketch of all the kinds of brushes our British cousins have logged as falling overboard.)   :D
http://www.pomorci.com/Edukacija/80-100/Deck%20Maintenance.pdf
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Michael on 04 January 2015, 21:05:22
Just to change the subject... I have seen this at least half a dozen times on the Concord in the last month or so of ship time:

Sent whale boat ashore for sand.

Sometimes they have to send the crew armed because of hostilities, so the sand is important. Why are they getting sand every few days? Are they making Japanese sand gardens to help with PTSD? Bulking up the morning oatmeal to stretch out supplies?  ;)

Curious mind needs to know...

Sometimes googling produces more than I ever expected to get.  A 47-page instruction manual on "chipping and painting" makes it clear that sand paper is required.  If they don't have gritty holystones, would they use loose sand instead?  (The article does have a sketch of all the kinds of brushes our British cousins have logged as falling overboard.)   :D
http://www.pomorci.com/Edukacija/80-100/Deck%20Maintenance.pdf

Good guess. There was a note that they were sandpapering and painting spars or railings (I forget which) so it would seem that they have sand paper. I like Joan's thought of weighing down the crew so they don't run away. Mind you, three people jumped ship from the USS Olympia (I think) and the next day they jumped right onto the Concord - I suspect the locals weren't too fond of their three new inhabitants. We also had three Spaniards paddle out on a bamboo raft to be taken on board.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 04 January 2015, 21:19:42
Sand is sometimes added to paint for the decks to improve grip.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Danny252 on 04 January 2015, 21:47:39
There's the sail-era method of putting sand down on deck during battles to soak up blood and improve grip, but that seems a bit outdated by the date we're talking about - plus the Concord isn't engaged in many bloody battles from the sound of it, mostly artillery support.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Michael on 05 January 2015, 01:16:14
Sand is sometimes added to paint for the decks to improve grip.

This makes sense. That's why you're the captain. Craig better be good if/when he ever knocks you down from your exalted position...
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Randi on 05 January 2015, 02:56:38
Maybe Sandbags?
Quote from: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sand#Uses
Sandbags: These protect against floods and gunfire. The inexpensive bags are easy to transport when empty, and unskilled volunteers can quickly fill them with local sand in emergencies.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Michael on 05 January 2015, 10:26:33
Maybe Sandbags?
Quote from: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sand#Uses
Sandbags: These protect against floods and gunfire. The inexpensive bags are easy to transport when empty, and unskilled volunteers can quickly fill them with local sand in emergencies.

That makes even more sense. One time they sent an armed party to the beach and came back with five bags full of sand. They have had musket fire directed at the ship at times.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Tegwen on 05 January 2015, 11:31:08
Several of the British ships that I have transcribed or edited used sandbags as additional protection to exposed areas such as the bridge & guns, when entering a conflict area. Eg HMS Odin & HMS Clio.

eg: http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ADM_53-53180/ADM%2053-53180-095_0.jpg
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: JamesAPrattIII on 05 January 2015, 19:02:40
I would say if someone was shooting at them sandbags would be a good idea.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 05 January 2015, 19:19:30
That makes sense to me.  :)

Stumbled on a new ship grounded, apparently on purpose to prevent capsize - reason for listing still unknown.
http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-hampshire-30677320
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Danny252 on 06 January 2015, 06:11:39
I've read that the ship was only 1/3rd loaded, so shifting cargo is my gut instinct, based on absolutely no seafaring knowledge whatsoever!
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Randi on 06 January 2015, 07:27:56
Quote from: http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-hampshire-30695349
was possibly an electrical fault with sensors which control the ballast, or ballast pumps.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Danny252 on 06 January 2015, 08:16:47
Bah, far less interesting!
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Thursday Next on 06 January 2015, 14:08:41
Several of the British ships that I have transcribed or edited used sandbags as additional protection to exposed areas such as the bridge & guns, when entering a conflict area. Eg HMS Odin & HMS Clio.

eg: http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ADM_53-53180/ADM%2053-53180-095_0.jpg

Changuinola 16 January 1918 7.00am: Sand Party landed
So they're at it now, as well!  At least, I presume they weren't just having fun building sandcastles and paddling.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 06 January 2015, 15:08:31
Maybe they were practicing to be like these guys.
(http://resources0.news.com.au/images/2014/10/24/1227100/767720-02a1d258-5b09-11e4-9353-adbcffafddf7.jpg)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: AvastMH on 06 January 2015, 15:35:13
 ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Dean on 07 January 2015, 11:01:07
One of my sailing friends keeps a bucket of sand on the boat for those that wish to sail but don't want to lose touch with land!!!   :o ::) :P ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Danny252 on 07 January 2015, 15:16:20
That makes sense to me.  :)

Stumbled on a new ship grounded, apparently on purpose to prevent capsize - reason for listing still unknown.
http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-hampshire-30677320

This ship has apparently now been refloated, mostly of its own accord - after they decided to stop attempts to refloat it due to bad weather and things not proceeding as quickly as planned, the ship went ahead and started to float off at high tide anyway!
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 07 January 2015, 17:51:36
All those "interfering" storms raising the sea level were really Mother Nature lending a helping hand? ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Tegwen on 08 January 2015, 14:37:21
I would say if someone was shooting at them sandbags would be a good idea.

Certainly both Odin & Clio reported receiving incoming sniper fire in the early months of the Mesopotamia Campaign, North of Basra, so indeed sandbags would have been very welcome.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 08 January 2015, 22:12:52
Talking about data, this came my way - the statistics came from 2012, and the original site has a link to see the original study from 1990 so we can compare.
http://www.100people.org/statistics_100stats.php?section=statistics

Click to enlarge
(http://thumbnails-visually.netdna-ssl.com/TheWorldas100People_519247ce0980d_w1500.png)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Helen J on 09 January 2015, 09:23:39
Thanks Janet - that makes me feel fortunate ....
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: AvastMH on 09 January 2015, 12:20:02
One of my sailing friends keeps a bucket of sand on the boat for those that wish to sail but don't want to lose touch with land!!!   :o ::) :P ;)

 ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: AvastMH on 09 January 2015, 12:22:31
Talking about data, this came my way - the statistics came from 2012, and the original site has a link to see the original study from 1990 so we can compare.
http://www.100people.org/statistics_100stats.php?section=statistics
That is very fascinating. I might print it out for the board at work! Interesting find, Janet.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 10 January 2015, 01:14:28
Happy Birthday Michael for the 10th.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 10 January 2015, 01:27:53
Happy Birthday, Michael!!  :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Randi on 10 January 2015, 02:46:41
Happy Birthday
Michael!

Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Hanibal94 on 10 January 2015, 05:19:02
Happy Birthday, Michael!
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: propriome on 10 January 2015, 07:14:14
Happy birthday Michael!!! :) :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: bluemuffin78 on 10 January 2015, 09:56:49
Several of the British ships that I have transcribed or edited used sandbags as additional protection to exposed areas such as the bridge & guns, when entering a conflict area. Eg HMS Odin & HMS Clio.

eg: http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ADM_53-53180/ADM%2053-53180-095_0.jpg

Changuinola 16 January 1918 7.00am: Sand Party landed
So they're at it now, as well!  At least, I presume they weren't just having fun building sandcastles and paddling.



"Merid. to 4pm - Sent whaleboat for load of sand"
Apparently the Yorktown also had a sudden desire to build sandcastles one afternoon as well :P
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Yorktown/vol005of040_jpg_clean/vol005of040_191_1.jpg
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Caro on 10 January 2015, 10:11:34
Happy birthday Michael!
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Craig on 10 January 2015, 11:53:40
May you have interesting weather for you birthday, Michael!
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: jil on 10 January 2015, 12:10:25
Happy Birthday, Michael!
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: AvastMH on 10 January 2015, 12:34:16
A jolly happy birthday Michael - hope I got the number right!  ;) ;D

(http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/1024x768q90/537/BQFEOt.jpg)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Helen J on 10 January 2015, 13:07:39
Happy birthday, Michael - hope I'm still in time!
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Michael on 10 January 2015, 13:23:51
Thank you, one and all. And, yes, Helen, you're still in time. Living on the west coast of Canada puts us well behind everyone. And, Joan, the 30 was most appreciated, but you forget that I became a Lieutenant on the USS Concord in February 1891, so I am well past the 30 mark!

However, slow though we are, timewise, we're well ahead of many of you in terms of spring. Apparently the first Japanese cherry tree has blossomed in our fair city, and in our garden the first snowdrops have bloomed and have joined the hellebores which have been blooming for a couple of weeks...

Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 10 January 2015, 13:43:55
Michael, you are just trying to make us jealous of your ocean breezes - this afternoon Chicago did succeed in getting wind chills that were above 0F for the first time this week, we actually achieved an air temp of 10F, or -11C.  Downright balmy.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: AvastMH on 10 January 2015, 14:13:08
However, slow though we are, timewise, we're well ahead of many of you in terms of spring. Apparently the first Japanese cherry tree has blossomed in our fair city, and in our garden the first snowdrops have bloomed and have joined the hellebores which have been blooming for a couple of weeks...
I am truly impressed! Though I can boast that my Japanese Quince has been blooming for some time - but it has no sense and blooms any time that it wants  ::) :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 10 January 2015, 17:37:14
The best I can grow is my weed collection, (which by the way is growing well in all the rain we are having at the moment)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: AvastMH on 10 January 2015, 17:53:15
Well that makes you the biodiversity specialist of OW then! The bugs and beasties are probably very happy with your horticultural arramngements  ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Thursday Next on 11 January 2015, 14:28:12
Just in case anyone is still interested in sand:
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ADM53-37555/C2-ADM53-37555-119_0.jpg
Changuinola 9 February 1918 6.30am "Hands fall in.  Wash & scrub decks with sand."

I know the page says January, but they mean February.  :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: AvastMH on 12 January 2015, 14:37:03
Brilliant program on UK trawlers in WW1 - featuring a very controversial case. Showing now on BBC Four - will pick iplayer ref a bit later this evening.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Thursday Next on 12 January 2015, 15:01:23
I can confirm it is a very interesting programme - saw it last time it was on!
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: exim202 on 12 January 2015, 17:17:12
Think this is the programme (on iPlayer)
http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b045ghms/world-war-i-at-home-the-trawlermen
Looking forward to watching it this week sometime.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: AvastMH on 12 January 2015, 18:00:55
Oh - oops -  didn't realise I'd missed it before, Thursday Next!  And someone probably did mention on chat as well...silly me  ::)
It was jolly good.

Thanks exim202...I got delayed by other things... ::)

 :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Randi on 13 January 2015, 08:48:04
Warming climate will force airlines to shed weight, increase costs (https://www.sciencenews.org/article/warming-climate-will-force-airlines-shed-weight-increase-costs?tgt=nr)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: AvastMH on 13 January 2015, 13:54:25
Oh well -better keep on with the diet then  :P ...not that I ever fly anywhere these days.  ::)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Thursday Next on 13 January 2015, 14:15:02
Oh - oops -  didn't realise I'd missed it before, Thursday Next!  And someone probably did mention on chat as well...silly me  ::)
It was jolly good.

Thanks exim202...I got delayed by other things... ::)

 :)

Almost everything on BBC4 has been on before!  Actually I'm not sure it did get mentioned on the Forum the previous time - I don't think I mentioned it myself, even though I thought it was really good, because I'd recently mentioned a couple of other programmes.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: AvastMH on 13 January 2015, 15:04:41
Ah - that's interesting Thursday Next. I don't get to see the gogglebox much.  :-\
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Thursday Next on 13 January 2015, 16:00:44
For BBC4 (and a number of other channels) the Radio Times helpfully flags up "New" on those rare programmes which are airing for the first time!
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: AvastMH on 13 January 2015, 16:12:23
Oh right!   Nice to know that my license money pays for some new stuff. I do tend to enjoy BBC2 & 4  more than 1 & 3. Though I am indulging in a Narnia film on Beeb 3 tonight. I can't do much on OW - I got some handcream in my eyes earlier and it's agony looking at a bright screen. Early to bed tonight I think!  :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Helen J on 13 January 2015, 16:25:04
Ow!  That sounds very unpleasant.  Hope your eyes recover before too long - and in the meantime, enjoy Narnia and an early night.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: AvastMH on 14 January 2015, 13:36:06
They were enjoyed thank you Helen, and the eyes are all good today.  :D
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Hanibal94 on 14 January 2015, 14:01:10
Great to hear it's all better now!  8)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: AvastMH on 14 January 2015, 14:31:57
Thanks! Yep - back facing Lieutenant Serif on the Patterson. There's a man who likes using ink.  ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Hanibal94 on 14 January 2015, 15:23:06
I have no idea who you're talking about (said the transcriber who only, only cares about pumping out WR and getting ships done)  ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: AvastMH on 14 January 2015, 16:23:25
 ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Michael on 14 January 2015, 20:17:14
That's good, Hanibal! As for me, I like to savour the smell of cordite in the morning, and warm my hands by another burning ship.  ;) I think, between us, we get all the bases covered.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Caro on 15 January 2015, 16:01:52
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-30835560
Wow.  :o
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 15 January 2015, 18:01:37
We had a slow news day yesterday and they put that clip on the ABC Evening News.  Reasons to have a reliable experienced local driving your boat, he sped up when he saw the water ripples before the reporter realized what was happening.  That was one scary hippo.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: jil on 16 January 2015, 08:54:44
 :o Eeeeeek!
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Randi on 16 January 2015, 13:34:12
http://www.vertebratejournal.org/858/dangerous-neighbors-hippopotami-and-nile-crocodiles/
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: AvastMH on 16 January 2015, 15:20:01
Right - well - after those video offerings and if I do ever visit Africa, I'll leave my swimming cozie at home  :o :o :o   ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: JamesAPrattIII on 16 January 2015, 16:04:23
I have read in books about hunting in Africa that being between a Hippo and water is hazardous for your health if you are a hunter ect. During the campaign in East Africa during WW I the British lost a number of men who bumped into animals like elephants, rhinos and lions in thick brush. Then there is the incident where a company of the KAR (Kings African Rifles) got scattered by 3 rampaging rhinos! They also had problems with hippos and crocs while crossing rivers.
 I have also read that natives who are paddling there canoes down the river have run into irate hippos and the results were ususally bad for the canoe and its occupant.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: AvastMH on 16 January 2015, 16:15:16
Oh goodness! Right, that's that. The cozie is certainly staying at home...as am I!  :o
I wonder if the animal enemy was raised in pre-action briefings?  :-\
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Randi on 17 January 2015, 16:28:17
Europe's Landscape Is Still Scarred by World War I
Photographs of the abandoned battlefields reveal the trenches' scars still run deep

Smithsonian Magazine | June 2014

(http://thumbs.media.smithsonianmag.com//filer/72/93/72936352-47e9-4418-9ad0-f50da035bb77/jun14_j04_phenom.jpg__1072x0_q85_upscale.jpg)
(Michael St. Maur Sheil)

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Nearly 70 feet deep, the Lochnagar Crater was formed after an explosive-packed mine was detonated during
the Battle of the Somme. (Michael St. Maur Sheil)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Caro on 18 January 2015, 04:06:59
Thanks Randi. Stunning photography. Well worth a look.

Good morning OW. Chilly day ahead but keeping on the right side of zero C.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: studentforever on 18 January 2015, 05:13:17
Kids have been seen with sledges which are prominently displayed in supermarkets. The snow on the hills looks lovely in the sun but the roads are pretty slippy.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Michael on 18 January 2015, 11:04:14
9C WSW21 Gusts to 46 (kmh) bcq Str-Cum 4

Off today to see the Wildlife Photographer of the Year at the Royal BC Museum (http://royalbcmuseum.bc.ca/wpy2014/).

There are a few of the photographs you can see on the museum's website. This will be the third of these annual shows we've seen, and the other two were absolutely stunning.

Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: AvastMH on 18 January 2015, 11:09:25
The mouse, the moon, and the mosquito is so beautiful. It sounds like the title for a great children's  book - and what a front cover that photo would make!  :D
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 18 January 2015, 15:13:42
That one, and the cheetah resting in the grass.  All of them are sensational.  :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Caro on 23 January 2015, 15:51:17
Well done, Stornoway Coastguard: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-30949499
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Dean on 23 January 2015, 16:44:45
Well done, Stornoway Coastguard: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-30949499

 :D :D :D
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: AvastMH on 23 January 2015, 19:00:11
Gosh - that takes some real expertise..I'm so glad that we can provide it. Very brave.  :) :) :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Thursday Next on 24 January 2015, 12:33:56
Incredible footage!  I liked the bit where it said they had originally been sent out with a pump!  ::)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Michael on 25 January 2015, 17:16:29
Happy Australia Day everyone!!! We'll have to pay Stuart and the others twice as much today.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 25 January 2015, 18:03:24
Double time AND a half if you please.  ::)

(No wonder we are going broke)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 25 January 2015, 18:37:35
Happy Australian Day!!!

(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-niB2gM855_0/UtrO3J70VPI/AAAAAAAAH84/XIFJk3pBxhg/s640/Australian-Day-Flag-Celebration-Firworks-Wishes.jpg)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 25 January 2015, 20:13:22
Thanks Mate.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Caro on 26 January 2015, 02:41:51
Happy Australia Day from this expat Aussie also.  ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Randi on 26 January 2015, 02:59:49
Happy Australia Day everyone!!!


Stuart and the others should invite us for a barbecue - I'm sure leelaht would be willing to contribute from Vicksburg's stock (http://forum.oldweather.org/index.php?topic=3344.msg102143#msg102143) ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 26 January 2015, 04:14:25
Leelaht and all others Come on down, but I warn you I burnt the snags today  :-[
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Randi on 26 January 2015, 04:20:38
Quote from: http://www.thefreedictionary.com/snags
5. (Nautical Terms) US and Canadian a tree stump in a riverbed that is dangerous to navigation
7. (Cookery) (plural) Austral sausages
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 26 January 2015, 04:46:07
 ;D
Nice one Randi.
I would love to say I used the snags to fire up the barbie on which I burnt the snags, (but I didn't)  ::)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Randi on 26 January 2015, 06:06:43
Smithsonian
May 2014

The Reality of a Hotter World is Already Here
As global warming makes sizzling temperatures more common, will human beings be able to keep their cool? New research suggests not

Quote
Douglas Kenrick, rangy and grizzled, squints through the shimmering heat of a late-summer afternoon in the Sonora desert. "You live here long enough," he says, crossing to the south side of an empty street for the five-minute walk across the campus of Arizona State University, "and you become like a desert animal, searching out shade." Having grown up on Long Island, and coming from the frequently snowbound campus of Montana State University, he relished the heat when he moved to Phoenix in 1980, but by the end of his first full summer, it had become oppressive. "I came from New York with the attitude that it can't ever be too hot for me," says Kenrick, "but I was wrong." It seems likely that most people who move to Phoenix, where the temperature reached 118 degrees one day last June, make the same discovery, but as an evolutionary psychologist, Kenrick wanted to do more than complain about the climate. So he did an experiment.

His method had the elegance of all great science: He recruited a volunteer to stop her car at a green light and he counted the seconds until the driver behind honked the horn. He did this once a week from April to August, on days when the high temperature ranged from 84 degrees to 108, and he found that the thermometer accurately predicted how soon, and how many times, thwarted drivers would protest before the light changed. "When the weather was comfortably cool, the typical driver just politely tapped on the horn for a second," Kenrick wrote. "When it got up near 100, though, they started blaring their horns, yelling out the window, and making hand signals they probably did not learn in driver's education."

Quote
But climate is about more than ecology: It's also a force in human behavior, a fact often overlooked in global-warming scenarios. And new research suggests that a hotter world may, for one thing, be more dangerous, and not just because of road rage. Craig A. Anderson, of Iowa State University, pioneered research on climate and aggression, and derived the formula that each additional degree of warming increases the rate of violent crime (homicides and assaults) by 4.19 cases per 100,000 people. Solomon Hsiang, a public policy specialist at UC Berkeley, has found that climate change historically leads to social disruption, up to and including war. Property crime, personal violence, domestic violence, police violence - everything you want less of, climate change seems to bring more of, either directly by making individuals more violence-prone, or indirectly by promoting conflict related to diminishing resources or deteriorating economic conditions.

For reasons Hsiang is still studying, hotter temperatures depress economic activity. In a study of 28 Caribbean economies, he found that "short-term increases in surface temperature are associated with large reductions in economic output. I was stunned by how large the effect was. I don't want to be alarmist, but I think the evidence is extremely concerning, and it hasn't been seriously considered by policy makers."
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Dean on 26 January 2015, 07:59:16
Smithsonian
May 2014

The Reality of a Hotter World is Already Here
As global warming makes sizzling temperatures more common, will human beings be able to keep their cool? New research suggests not

Quote
Douglas Kenrick, rangy and grizzled, squints through the shimmering heat of a late-summer afternoon in the Sonora desert. "You live here long enough," he says, crossing to the south side of an empty street for the five-minute walk across the campus of Arizona State University, "and you become like a desert animal, searching out shade." Having grown up on Long Island, and coming from the frequently snowbound campus of Montana State University, he relished the heat when he moved to Phoenix in 1980, but by the end of his first full summer, it had become oppressive. "I came from New York with the attitude that it can't ever be too hot for me," says Kenrick, "but I was wrong." It seems likely that most people who move to Phoenix, where the temperature reached 118 degrees one day last June, make the same discovery, but as an evolutionary psychologist, Kenrick wanted to do more than complain about the climate. So he did an experiment.

His method had the elegance of all great science: He recruited a volunteer to stop her car at a green light and he counted the seconds until the driver behind honked the horn. He did this once a week from April to August, on days when the high temperature ranged from 84 degrees to 108, and he found that the thermometer accurately predicted how soon, and how many times, thwarted drivers would protest before the light changed. "When the weather was comfortably cool, the typical driver just politely tapped on the horn for a second," Kenrick wrote. "When it got up near 100, though, they started blaring their horns, yelling out the window, and making hand signals they probably did not learn in driver's education."

There is a 'Scientific' study that the absolute shortest measurable unit of time is that between when the traffic light turns green and the idiot behind you hits the horn!!!!!!!   ::)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: AvastMH on 26 January 2015, 08:41:48
Well cobbers..have a great national day in Oz

(http://imageshack.com/a/img540/7408/nt45Y3.jpg)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Craig on 26 January 2015, 11:29:10
Happy National Day to our Australian friends!

Regarding your post, Randi, I listened to a documentary on the CBC about the lead up to the Spanish Inquisition. According to the historian, until about 1350 or so the relations between Jews, Muslims and Christians in Spanish cities was very good. This era was know for tolerance, culture and scientific erudition. This relative religious harmony was brutally disrupted by a combination of the black death and the little ice age, according to the researcher. The colder temperatures led to crop failures and food shortages. These cataclysmic events were interpreted by the Christians as a punishment by God for straying from the doctrine. Of course, Jewish minorities became the main scapegoats. This sort of ignorance persists in many places in the world today, unfortunately, and global warming will only exacerbate the situation - as your article indicates.

See From Tolerance to Tyranny in this list of podcasts http://www.cbc.ca/ideas/podcasts/index.html
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: tastiger on 26 January 2015, 13:21:48
Happy National Day to our Australian friends!

Regarding your post, Randi, I listened to a documentary on the CBC about the lead up to the Spanish Inquisition. According to the historian, until about 1350 or so the relations between Jews, Muslims and Christians in Spanish cities was very good. This era was know for tolerance, culture and scientific erudition. This relative religious harmony was brutally disrupted by a combination of the black death and the little ice age, according to the researcher. The colder temperatures led to crop failures and food shortages. These cataclysmic events were interpreted by the Christians as a punishment by God for straying from the doctrine. Of course, Jewish minorities became the main scapegoats. This sort of ignorance persists in many places in the world today, unfortunately, and global warming will only exacerbate the situation - as your article indicates.

See From Tolerance to Tyranny in this list of podcasts http://www.cbc.ca/ideas/podcasts/index.html

No one expects the Spanish Inquisition.

...Sorry, couldn't resist.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Randi on 26 January 2015, 13:29:38
Thanks, Craig. Very interesting!
I had been aware of the remarkable religious harmony, but I had never heard the end of that linked to the black death and the little ice age.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Craig on 26 January 2015, 13:43:15
The Little Ice Age is a bit uncertain in terms of geographical extent and duration but there does seem to have been some unusually cold weather in Europe about that time. I hadn't heard of this connection either.

Not sure what you meant, Tastiger  ???  Are you taking me literally about a possible repeat of the "Spanish Inquisition" because of global warming?
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Caro on 26 January 2015, 14:05:49
I think tastiger is referring to a certain Monty Python sketch.   ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Thursday Next on 26 January 2015, 14:36:06
Happy National Day to our Australian friends!

Regarding your post, Randi, I listened to a documentary on the CBC about the lead up to the Spanish Inquisition. According to the historian, until about 1350 or so the relations between Jews, Muslims and Christians in Spanish cities was very good. This era was know for tolerance, culture and scientific erudition. This relative religious harmony was brutally disrupted by a combination of the black death and the little ice age, according to the researcher. The colder temperatures led to crop failures and food shortages. These cataclysmic events were interpreted by the Christians as a punishment by God for straying from the doctrine. Of course, Jewish minorities became the main scapegoats. This sort of ignorance persists in many places in the world today, unfortunately, and global warming will only exacerbate the situation - as your article indicates.

See From Tolerance to Tyranny in this list of podcasts http://www.cbc.ca/ideas/podcasts/index.html

No one expects the Spanish Inquisition.

...Sorry, couldn't resist.

If only we had a "Like" button!  ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Thursday Next on 26 January 2015, 14:41:28
Smithsonian
May 2014

The Reality of a Hotter World is Already Here
As global warming makes sizzling temperatures more common, will human beings be able to keep their cool? New research suggests not

Quote
Douglas Kenrick, rangy and grizzled, squints through the shimmering heat of a late-summer afternoon in the Sonora desert. "You live here long enough," he says, crossing to the south side of an empty street for the five-minute walk across the campus of Arizona State University, "and you become like a desert animal, searching out shade." Having grown up on Long Island, and coming from the frequently snowbound campus of Montana State University, he relished the heat when he moved to Phoenix in 1980, but by the end of his first full summer, it had become oppressive. "I came from New York with the attitude that it can't ever be too hot for me," says Kenrick, "but I was wrong." It seems likely that most people who move to Phoenix, where the temperature reached 118 degrees one day last June, make the same discovery, but as an evolutionary psychologist, Kenrick wanted to do more than complain about the climate. So he did an experiment.

His method had the elegance of all great science: He recruited a volunteer to stop her car at a green light and he counted the seconds until the driver behind honked the horn. He did this once a week from April to August, on days when the high temperature ranged from 84 degrees to 108, and he found that the thermometer accurately predicted how soon, and how many times, thwarted drivers would protest before the light changed. "When the weather was comfortably cool, the typical driver just politely tapped on the horn for a second," Kenrick wrote. "When it got up near 100, though, they started blaring their horns, yelling out the window, and making hand signals they probably did not learn in driver's education."

Quote
But climate is about more than ecology: It's also a force in human behavior, a fact often overlooked in global-warming scenarios. And new research suggests that a hotter world may, for one thing, be more dangerous, and not just because of road rage. Craig A. Anderson, of Iowa State University, pioneered research on climate and aggression, and derived the formula that each additional degree of warming increases the rate of violent crime (homicides and assaults) by 4.19 cases per 100,000 people. Solomon Hsiang, a public policy specialist at UC Berkeley, has found that climate change historically leads to social disruption, up to and including war. Property crime, personal violence, domestic violence, police violence - everything you want less of, climate change seems to bring more of, either directly by making individuals more violence-prone, or indirectly by promoting conflict related to diminishing resources or deteriorating economic conditions.

For reasons Hsiang is still studying, hotter temperatures depress economic activity. In a study of 28 Caribbean economies, he found that "short-term increases in surface temperature are associated with large reductions in economic output. I was stunned by how large the effect was. I don't want to be alarmist, but I think the evidence is extremely concerning, and it hasn't been seriously considered by policy makers."

Before the happy day when I retired, I used to deal with customer complaints at my place of work.  Numbers received tended to be quite variable, but whenever there was a heatwave, we would get a lot more complaints.  Obviously this is just anecdotal, and I don't have proper scientific evidence, but it certainly ties in with Douglas Kenrick's findings.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Craig on 26 January 2015, 14:52:16
Sorry to interject, Su, I just wanted to say:

I think tastiger is referring to a certain Monty Python sketch.   ;)

Marvellous, Tastiger! (and thanks Caro). I just saw the sketch on U-tube  ;D

http://search.yahoo.com/search?p=spanish+inquistion+python&b=&fr=ie8
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 26 January 2015, 15:04:29
Rug up you East Coasters and stay indoors and watch the Pythons
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Helen J on 26 January 2015, 16:23:40
Absolutely!  I've just seen the news and the forecast sounds seriously worrying - hope all of you in East Coast America are safely home with plenty of supplies to keep you OK until the weather passes over.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Caro on 26 January 2015, 17:12:39
Me too. I hope the worst of it passes quickly. Stay safe.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Kathy on 26 January 2015, 17:20:02
My sister, her in-laws and my niece are in the Blizzard zone - my husband wishes we were in that zone as well - I'm happy not to be - we have decided this is a perfect night to watch the expanded edition of The Hobbit - An Unexpected Journey... ;D

I think Dean is in the Blizzard zone too!
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Randi on 26 January 2015, 17:26:48
Stay safe, warm, well fed, and connected, Blizzard zone transcribers!
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: AvastMH on 26 January 2015, 18:00:25
Sorry to interject, Su, I just wanted to say:

I think tastiger is referring to a certain Monty Python sketch.   ;)

Marvellous, Tastiger! (and thanks Caro). I just saw the sketch on U-tube  ;D

http://search.yahoo.com/search?p=spanish+inquistion+python&b=&fr=ie8

I can't tell you the number of times I've said that quote, or heard it...it's so good...I'm chuckling away at it now!  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: AvastMH on 26 January 2015, 18:01:10
Stay safe, warm, well fed, and connected, Blizzard zone transcribers!
Amen to that, stay safe folks!
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Michael on 26 January 2015, 18:56:28
Good luck all you people living along the Eastern Seaboard. I have memories of some major snow storms to hit northern New Brunswick when I lived there in the mid seventies. I was told about this wonderful weather forecast site (http://www.yr.no/place/United_States/Massachusetts/Boston/) that uses raw data from the ECMWF (European Centre for Medium range Weather Forecasts) to generate forecasts for anywhere in the world. The ECMWF model is the current Gold Standard forecast model. The link I gave is for Boston MA, and it suggests 27" (68 mm precip => 68 cm snow). (The normal conversion is 1 mm liquid precipitation is approximately 1 cm of snow, though it can be less than that for wet heavy snow and much higher (1:20 for very dry powdery snow.)

You might like to compare the forecast for your area with the "official" forecast. ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Dean on 28 January 2015, 19:15:11
My sister, her in-laws and my niece are in the Blizzard zone - my husband wishes we were in that zone as well - I'm happy not to be - we have decided this is a perfect night to watch the expanded edition of The Hobbit - An Unexpected Journey... ;D

I think Dean is in the Blizzard zone too!

Nope! It stayed East of us. Sunny and -2?C today (Wednesday) Spent the day working at finishing up our Habitat for Humanity House with the new homeowners so we can dedicate it Feb 8 and they can move in on the 9th!!!   ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Michael on 28 January 2015, 19:35:28
My sister, her in-laws and my niece are in the Blizzard zone - my husband wishes we were in that zone as well - I'm happy not to be - we have decided this is a perfect night to watch the expanded edition of The Hobbit - An Unexpected Journey... ;D

I think Dean is in the Blizzard zone too!

Nope! It stayed East of us. Sunny and -2?C today (Wednesday) Spent the day working at finishing up our Habitat for Humanity House with the new homeowners so we can dedicate it Feb 8 and they can move in on the 9th!!!   ;D ;D ;D

Good for you and HFH, Dean! I was on the board of HFH Yukon for about seven years. OW and other volunteer work sucks up my time here in Victoria. I guess a person can't do everything...
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 28 January 2015, 20:07:28
My sister, her in-laws and my niece are in the Blizzard zone - my husband wishes we were in that zone as well - I'm happy not to be - we have decided this is a perfect night to watch the expanded edition of The Hobbit - An Unexpected Journey... ;D

I think Dean is in the Blizzard zone too!

Nope! It stayed East of us. Sunny and -2?C today (Wednesday) Spent the day working at finishing up our Habitat for Humanity House with the new homeowners so we can dedicate it Feb 8 and they can move in on the 9th!!!   ;D ;D ;D

Good for you and HFH, Dean! I was on the board of HFH Yukon for about seven years. OW and other volunteer work sucks up my time here in Victoria. I guess a person can't do everything...

Glad to hear you all are clear of the blast.  And it's nice that father Winter is letting you finish the house for the family.  A lovely thing.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Michael on 28 January 2015, 23:51:23
Good luck all you people living along the Eastern Seaboard. I have memories of some major snow storms to hit northern New Brunswick when I lived there in the mid seventies. I was told about this wonderful weather forecast site (http://www.yr.no/place/United_States/Massachusetts/Boston/) that uses raw data from the ECMWF (European Centre for Medium range Weather Forecasts) to generate forecasts for anywhere in the world. The ECMWF model is the current Gold Standard forecast model. The link I gave is for Boston MA, and it suggests 27" (68 mm precip => 68 cm snow). (The normal conversion is 1 mm liquid precipitation is approximately 1 cm of snow, though it can be less than that for wet heavy snow and much higher (1:20 for very dry powdery snow.)

You might like to compare the forecast for your area with the "official" forecast. ;)

This from the Boston Globe:
Though Boston?s measurement of record is made at Logan International Airport, and shows 24.6 inches so far, there were higher accumulations in other parts of the metropolitan area.

Note that the ECMWF forecast was for 27"!  Not bad, I would say. that's why the ECWMF is the Gold Standard for numerical weather forecasts.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Randi on 31 January 2015, 10:16:37

A Prayer for Archimedes
A long-lost text by the ancient Greek mathematician shows that he had begun to discover the principles of calculus.
By
Julie Rehmeyer
8:48pm, October 3, 2007
 (https://www.sciencenews.org/article/prayer-archimedes)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 31 January 2015, 10:22:59
Very, very interesting!!   8)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: studentforever on 31 January 2015, 11:05:37
We're learning more and more about the origins of maths both in time and geographical location. I wonder how much has been lost because the original text was destroyed and the contents not passed down the generations.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Helen J on 31 January 2015, 11:48:50
TV programme alert - at least for those in the UK.  At 8pm tonight on Channel 4 a new series begins called 'The World's Weirdest Weather' and we are promised delights such as an upside-down rainbow, and spider lightning.  I think I may need to watch it - purely for research of course ....  :D
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: AvastMH on 31 January 2015, 11:57:27

A Prayer for Archimedes
A long-lost text by the ancient Greek mathematician shows that he had begun to discover the principles of calculus.
By
Julie Rehmeyer
8:48pm, October 3, 2007
 (https://www.sciencenews.org/article/prayer-archimedes)

That's astonishing!  :o :D
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Randi on 31 January 2015, 14:24:07
Science News: Collapsing Coastlines - How Arctic shores are pulled a-sea
Magazine issue: Vol. 180 #2, July 16, 2011

Quote from: https://www.sciencenews.org/article/collapsing-coastlines
(https://www.sciencenews.org/sites/default/files/14593)
...
Blocks of graphite-colored earth, as much as 10 meters wide and several meters deep, toppled into the sea one by one like skyscrapers in a Japanese monster film.
...
The map reveals that Arctic land today falls back on average by about half a meter per year along more than 60,000 kilometers of twisting and winding coastline. These rates vary wildly depending on the beach or bluff in question, Lantuit's team reported online in February in Estuaries and Coasts.

Drew Point, an exposed site on the Beaufort Sea, loses more than eight meters of land each year, for instance. Other studies have shown that nearby locales can collapse away by as much as 25 meters per year. Taken as a whole, these erosion rates may not differ drastically from those to the south, but temperate beaches don't ice over in the winter, Lantuit notes.

"What is amazing is that you have those comparable rates even though you have only four months of open water in the Arctic," he says.

The difference rests with the ice. Not in the water, but on land. Across much of the Arctic, the ground stays frozen year-round. Mix soil and water, shake up the slurry, then freeze it, and you get something akin to much of the Arctic's frozen dirt, or permafrost. Some patches of Arctic ground along the Beaufort Sea are as much as 70 percent ice by volume. This ice-soil mix doesn't just crumble when ocean waters lap. The water also licks the land like a Popsicle, causing the icy parts to melt. And where there's more ice in the soil, there's more melting and more bits of land being drawn seaward.
...
Ice loss fuels rising sea levels worldwide, but it's particularly bad for local coasts. In cooler months, sea ice serves as the Arctic's blanket, keeping an insulating layer between seashores and lapping waves. When coasts lose this blanket, those same waves lap and siphon away soil with abandon. In the Arctic, open water means quicker erosion, Overeem says. Along one stretch of the Beaufort Sea, the rates of erosion sped in tandem with lengthening open water seasons, she and colleagues reported in San Francisco last year at a meeting of the American Geophysical Union.

Less ice also means worse damage from storms, like the one that inundated Kaktovik in 2008, says storm scientist David Atkinson of the University of Victoria in Canada. Sea ice protects the coast from such catastrophes, which can tear down entire blocks of earth. On the simplest level, land-bound ice keeps waves from tearing at the shore. That blanket can also, however, keep waves from building up in the first place.

To make a big wave, Atkinson explains, winds need a lot of room to blow. Extensive sea ice leaves little open water -- or fetch -- to be had, and as a result, the surf has little room to gain momentum. "You might have a 100-mile wind, but if you only have a mile of open water fetch, you might only get 3-foot waves," says Atkinson. But if the ice drops away tens of miles, "now the same storm can produce a much more damaging marine response."

(https://www.sciencenews.org/sites/default/files/14595)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: AvastMH on 31 January 2015, 15:10:15
And that's scary  :o :o
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 31 January 2015, 15:39:13
Must be a boring day in Kaktovik if all they have to do is watch the coast line collapse.  ;)
Not sure I would be standing where that couple is.  :o
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Michael on 31 January 2015, 20:33:24
Must be a boring day in Kaktovik if all they have to do is watch the coast line collapse.  ;)
Not sure I would be standing where that couple is.  :o

That's life in the north for you...  ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Caro on 01 February 2015, 11:42:07
Hello OW. Does anyone know where January went?  :o
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: AvastMH on 01 February 2015, 11:49:58
Sorry - nope - but can I have mine back again please? I'm not ready for February yet  ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Craig on 01 February 2015, 11:52:19
http://www.siddhayoga.org/january  ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Helen J on 01 February 2015, 12:11:21
Sorry - nope - but can I have mine back again please? I'm not ready for February yet  ;)

Yes, I want to join that queue as well; I definitely had more work to do than there was month to do it all in.  And February doesn't look like it's going to be any better.  If we can't have January back, I'd settle for a few days when the month didn't move on at all - 1st February for a week would definitely help.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Thursday Next on 01 February 2015, 12:17:32
If we are going to slow the calendar down, please could we wait until it gets a bit warmer and the days are longer?  April or May perhaps?  If January and February want to fly by that is fine by me!
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 01 February 2015, 14:01:47
Well, given we have a growing blizzard outside, 5 inches white stuff on the ground with at least that much more coming this afternoon and wind building from Strong to Gale, February has clearly made its entrance to Chicagoland memorable.  I much prefer skipping the rest of it entirely and jumping ahead to March.  :)

(http://static.chicagoweathercenter.com/media/2015/02/Screen-Shot-2015-02-01-at-9.25.02-AM.png)
WGN local TV viewer posted today
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: AvastMH on 01 February 2015, 14:09:43
 :o :o :o
Stay warm Janet..perhaps use a bit of Craig's yoga to pass some of the time until they dig you out  :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 01 February 2015, 14:19:35
I absolutely love the "January Nature Gallery" on that yoga page.  Yoga for the spirit.  :)
http://www.siddhayoga.org/january/nature-gallery
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: tastiger on 01 February 2015, 14:27:13
Well, given we have a growing blizzard outside, 5 inches white stuff on the ground with at least that much more coming this afternoon and wind building from Strong to Gale, February has clearly made its entrance to Chicagoland memorable.  I much prefer skipping the rest of it entirely and jumping ahead to March.  :)

(http://static.chicagoweathercenter.com/media/2015/02/Screen-Shot-2015-02-01-at-9.25.02-AM.png)
WGN local TV viewer posted today

For my job today I had to shovel that. Twice.  :'(  Winter's great when you don't have to deal with the aftermath of a snowstorm...

Stay warm, hopefully the snow plow goes through (and doesn't cover the mailbox.) :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 01 February 2015, 15:03:25
Thanks, tastiger, my mailbox is safely inside my apartment building's lobby and so far the city has not shut down - but then the storm is a long way from over.   I stocked my pantry yesterday and am staying nice a cozy indoors.  :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 01 February 2015, 15:23:29
Janet, Hope you do not need these.
https://www.daysoftheyear.com/days/sled-dog-day/

Just stay indoors and play your
https://www.daysoftheyear.com/days/play-your-ukulele-day/

and eat some
https://www.daysoftheyear.com/days/crepe-day/
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 01 February 2015, 16:29:46
The crepe is a definite possibility - my landlord won't allow more than one small pet, so the sled dogs are out.  :)

This feels like a "normal" blizzard, nothing record shattering - a lifetime of survival instincts will get me thru it just fine.  :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Kookaburra on 01 February 2015, 16:41:05
I am in the same snowy condition, Janet - this is the view out my back door right now.  Or rather it was 15 minutes ago - it is now snowing again.

(http://kookabura.smugmug.com/photos/i-95vCCnW/0/M/i-95vCCnW-M.jpg)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 01 February 2015, 16:44:10
Janet.
I just realized that was for 2nd Feb, this is yours for the 1st.
Baked Alaska day.

Cool pics girls.   8)
I did not think anybody shot B/W pics these days.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Kookaburra on 01 February 2015, 17:13:42
Our pictures are not B&W, our WORLDS are black and white :)   ;D


And Baked Alaska sounds like a fabulous idea!
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Dean on 01 February 2015, 17:17:05
Storm on it's way here from Janet. we are expecting 8" - 12" (20cm - 30cm) overnight. Just yesterday I was down on the ice in the middle of my boat slip fixing a dock pin. Harbor is frozen solid and safe to walk on.

For those who celebrate Feb 2 here's one for you!!!
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: studentforever on 01 February 2015, 17:45:25
Not being as mobile as I was I'm glad I've just had to cope with our measly 2" of snow. Keep warm and safe folks.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Michael on 01 February 2015, 20:33:07
Sorry, but after 40 years of cold, snow, blizzards, mosquitoes, black flies and etc etc etc I just can't resist...    :) :) :) :) :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 01 February 2015, 23:22:32
I understand the impulse, but that is cruel, Michael.  The gale force winds chose to not develop and instead we got a much larger pile of snow (probably something like 15-18 inches by the time it is over), which is being supplemented now by lake-effect after-the-storm snow.  City and schools are shut down, and I'm staying nice and warm inside.

I've decided to meditate on your pictures and pretend I took a TARDIS ride to next April.  :)

(http://www.trbimg.com/img-54ce9786/turbine/ct-ct-weather-furniture-jpg-20150201/1000/1000x563)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 02 February 2015, 02:26:11
Since no sane groundhog to going to look outside in this snow, I'm imagining them all curled up in the their warm dens on this Groundhog Day thinking...

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-mdBlAQsdloo/VM8lrOH4JtI/AAAAAAAABy4/URt6etYSO88/w267-h360-no/Groundhog%2BDay.jpg)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: jil on 02 February 2015, 03:50:47
 ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: AvastMH on 02 February 2015, 08:50:36
 ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Hanibal94 on 02 February 2015, 09:05:23
 ;D

If I remember correctly, a groundhog is a woodchuck is a groundhog is a woodchuck.

So... how much wood would a woodchuck chuck if a woodchuck upchucked?
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Michael on 02 February 2015, 10:37:43
If you have four minutes, you should watch this video (https://www.youtube.com/embed/TJdjSjOGZuw). The best part comes at about the three minute mark...

The news article is here (http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/b-c-orcas-rare-beach-rubbing-behaviour-caught-on-video-1.2939355)

Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Kookaburra on 02 February 2015, 11:32:32
wow!  Can you imagine just standing on the beach and seeing that orca performance so close?  Amazing, and the article is quite interesting to go along with the video,
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 02 February 2015, 11:56:03
Ditto - what an experience those young men had!!!
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Randi on 03 February 2015, 02:13:11
Buon Compleanno
Matteo

Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Caro on 03 February 2015, 02:47:03
(http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w215/speedhy/BirthdayCakeGuyRunningAnimated.gif)

Happy birthday Matteo  ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: jil on 03 February 2015, 03:11:27
Have a great day, Matteo!
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 03 February 2015, 05:30:24
Happy Birthday, Matteo!

(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-R8Xavmyqwas/VHtVrBkVVEI/AAAAAAAABnk/O7_i7S0YBGU/w754-h501-no/Happy_Birthday_Cake.jpg)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Helen J on 03 February 2015, 07:15:45
Can't match Janet's amazing cake - but happy birthday Matteo, anyway!
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: AvastMH on 03 February 2015, 07:30:43

Have a jolly fun birthday Matteo!

(http://imageshack.com/a/img538/8992/Zn2t2O.jpg)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Hanibal94 on 03 February 2015, 08:32:53
Buon compleanno,
Buon compleanno,
Buon Compleanno Cari Matteo,
Buon compleanno!
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Michael on 03 February 2015, 11:41:21
Happy Birthday, Matteo!
I'm too busy transcribing to make the trip there, so I'm sending this lovely lady along to give you my best wishes in person...

Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: propriome on 03 February 2015, 11:43:09
:D :D :D Thank you so much everyone and everybody!!! :D :D :D
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Craig on 03 February 2015, 12:02:56
Sorry that I didn't squeak in to wish you happy birthday before you thanked everyone, Matteo. All the best and I will consider myself included in your thank you ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Dean on 03 February 2015, 13:56:59
Matteo

   Happy Birthday to you,
   Happy Birthday to you,
   Happy Birthday dear Matteeeeeeeeeeeeeeeooooooooooooooooooooooooo,
   Happy Birthday to you!

Hope it's a happy one and that you get lots of neat presents!
Hope also you get to share with family!
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: propriome on 03 February 2015, 14:17:36
Thank you Dean and Craig!

Since it's my first birthday as a dad, it's being a very special and happy one :D

You were included anyway, but it's a pleasure to repeat myself:

:D :D Thank you very much!!! :D :D

(Our community is so wonderfully spread around the world that i'd have to wait tomorrow to be sure to thank everyone... 8pm here - time for some lat/lon observations babysitting now) ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 03 February 2015, 14:22:47
 ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Michael on 03 February 2015, 23:20:23
Thank you Dean and Craig!

Since it's my first birthday as a dad, it's being a very special and happy one :D

You were included anyway, but it's a pleasure to repeat myself:

:D :D Thank you very much!!! :D :D

(Our community is so wonderfully spread around the world that i'd have to wait tomorrow to be sure to thank everyone... 8pm here - time for some lat/lon observations babysitting now) ;D

Being a dad is much better than being just another year older!!! Congratulations for that, too!
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 04 February 2015, 16:36:31
This is a tweet I received notice of this afternoon/evening.  :)

Quote
Here's the new Edinburgh University run "Scotland's War" WW1 website which launched today: http://www.scotlandswar.ed.ac.uk
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Caro on 05 February 2015, 02:44:35
Morning all. How's your old weather?
Snow in Surrey.  :P
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 05 February 2015, 05:34:30
Dark in Bowral, cannot see, will look when it gets light.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: propriome on 05 February 2015, 05:56:58
overcast with rain here (i'd say a classic or - Nim - 10), snowing on nearby mountains, with little chances it will come down to the plains :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: studentforever on 05 February 2015, 06:04:12
We have a lovely day here in the west of Scotland.  It didn't freeze last night and the sun is shining with just a few light clouds. I'm thinking of going for a walk now the paths are clearing.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Danny252 on 05 February 2015, 06:29:03
oc - Str - 10 here, "Cool and Pleasant" as my logkeeper would say!
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Hanibal94 on 05 February 2015, 06:38:28
Saxony is just below zero C most of the time, with occasional snowfalls and lots of overcast sky, but occasionally we get a bit of sun.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 05 February 2015, 08:08:17
Well, Chicago this morning has blue sky and 0F at sunrise.  Windchill is down to -13F (-25C) wind chill.  Yuk.  The snow plow piles that haven't yet been cleared from sidewalk entrances are now a solid block of ice.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Thursday Next on 05 February 2015, 08:39:53
I have just started the Futurelearn course on Moons and they gave us a link to this external video, Waltz Around Saturn http://vimeo.com/70532693.  It is highlights from the Cassini exploration, set to music.  It may not be suitable for anyone with photosensitive epilepsy.  I just loved it, and knowing how interested we all are in things astronomical, I thought some of you might like it too!
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: AvastMH on 05 February 2015, 08:46:16
Great visuals...at work - couldn't listen to it yet because some stinker pixie has stolen the earphones from this room yet again...aaaaggghh!  ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Michael on 05 February 2015, 10:43:03
From Victoria:

SE 3-4 29.44 18 10 8 5 ocqR Nim 0

The forecast calls for 47 mm rain between now and Monday.

Toby the cat is not asking for his morning walk.   :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Craig on 05 February 2015, 10:53:33
That's the price you pay for crocuses in February, Michael.

Nice Saturn video, as long as you're holding on to your hat  ;D 
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 05 February 2015, 11:16:24
Better rain than snow, anyway.  ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Caro on 05 February 2015, 11:20:35
I have just started the Futurelearn course on Moons and they gave us a link to this external video, Waltz Around Saturn http://vimeo.com/70532693.  It is highlights from the Cassini exploration, set to music.  It may not be suitable for anyone with photosensitive epilepsy.  I just loved it, and knowing how interested we all are in things astronomical, I thought some of you might like it too!

The Saturn video is wonderful. Thanks Su.
I also watched 'Vivaldi Cum Melancholia'. Oooo. Melancholia is a strange film, to put it mildly.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Danny252 on 05 February 2015, 14:12:46
From Victoria:

...29.44...

Phwoaar, look at that barometer reading!

(I'm slightly concerned that this was my actual reaction)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Randi on 05 February 2015, 15:02:41
Quote from: Science News - January 10, 2015
Lucky break documents warbler tornado warning
Birds fitted with data loggers for other reasons fled early from April?s killer storm


A freak of luck has let researchers document warblers fleeing their territories before temperatures, air pressure or other obvious weather signs foretold the arrival of a tornado-spawning storm.

Henry Streby of the University of California, Berkeley and colleagues had fitted lightweight but frustratingly simple data-collecting devices on tiny golden-winged warblers (Vermivora chrysoptera) in 2013 to see where the birds wintered. The devices were too simple to transmit data, so the team had to catch the same warblers in 2014 to recover any information.

Just as the team was assembling for data catching, a storm triggering 84 tornadoes slashed through the southeastern United States in April, killing at least 35 people and causing extensive property damage. The warblers apparently sensed it coming.

Five data-carrying  birds had just returned to their Tennessee breeding grounds after flying hundreds of kilometers. Yet the warblers left again for storm-dodging trips that added up to 1,500 more kilometers to the distance they had just flown. One bird even flew to Cuba and back to evade the storm. What tipped off the birds may have been the infrasound ? sounds lower than the normal limit of human hearing ? of the approaching storm, which can radiate more 1,000 kilometers, the researchers report December 18 in Current Biology.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 05 February 2015, 15:06:57
Bowral expected at noon 06/02/2015
ESE 16km/h , 19?C   ,  , Humidity 62%, 5% chance of rain, Mostly clear,  ,

Nothing exciting here.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Dean on 05 February 2015, 17:50:08
9?F (-13?C) here at 1717 in beautiful western New York USA (Niagara Falls).  Was sunny but this is the High for the day. Due to expect 0?F (-18?C) overnight with some more snow. We are running out of places to pile it!
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 05 February 2015, 17:59:59
Dean, your catching what came thru Chicago last night - an early morning low of -2F is now just coming down from a high of 14F. Pretty tho, sky varied between b and bc.  I like watching that thru the window of my warm apartment.  I'm not hoping for spring any time in February, just hope there are no more big snows.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Michael on 05 February 2015, 18:11:18
Dean, your catching what came thru Chicago last night - an early morning low of -2F is now just coming down from a high of 14F. Pretty tho, sky varied between b and bc.  I like watching that thru the window of my warm apartment.  I'm not hoping for spring any time in February, just hope there are no more big snows.

What's snow??? Our rain let up for four or five hours and the sun came out. It's starting up again, though fairly light...
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: AvastMH on 06 February 2015, 06:22:45
Beautiful winter sunshine in Kidlington today. Bit of frost left from last night :D
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Michael on 07 February 2015, 20:03:51
My friend in Terrace sent this picture. They had four feet of snow in the past 24 hours.  TERRACE   BC 54.46N 128.58W

I say, "Sucks to be them."  ;D

Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 07 February 2015, 21:20:04
Good grief - and I was complaining about 1.5 feet of white stuff!  Remind me to never move to the northern Pacific coastal area, as truly gorgeous as it is.   :o
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Michael on 07 February 2015, 21:21:38
Good grief - and I was complaining about 1.5 feet of white stuff!  Remind me to never move to the northern Pacific coastal area, as truly gorgeous as it is.   :o

But notice the shoveler. Shirt sleeves! We breed them tough in the north...
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 07 February 2015, 22:06:25
Better him than me.  ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Michael on 07 February 2015, 23:01:37
Better him than me.  ;D

You got that right, and that goes for me, too!
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Caro on 08 February 2015, 05:33:03
So glad I'm not there.  :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: AvastMH on 08 February 2015, 08:00:44
There are kids in this country would give their all for a heap of snow like that. Me? Well, I think it looks lovely from behind the window  ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: AvastMH on 08 February 2015, 14:49:54
Having a bad day for tracing things...we had a conversation recently about being able to access bbc iplayer programmes abroad..can anyone recall this please?
Thanks,
Joan
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 08 February 2015, 14:54:07
Hanibal put up a link to a program called 'Hola Better Internet'.
Look up on TFSE for it as we cannot put up anything advertising here.  ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: AvastMH on 08 February 2015, 15:06:39
Thanks Stuart....of course I would never expect to exploit the beeb. :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Randi on 08 February 2015, 15:09:52
http://forum.oldweather.org/index.php?topic=5.msg99828#msg99828 ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: AvastMH on 08 February 2015, 15:15:44
 ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Michael on 08 February 2015, 20:18:49
Working away on page two for 23 April of all these transfers (http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Concord/vol027of040/vol027of040_124_1.jpg) and I thought one crying smiley doesn't cut it. We need one with
tearing of hair and gnashing of teeth.
Just saying...  :'(
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Kookaburra on 08 February 2015, 22:35:48
Oh my gosh - I will never complain about the Thetis logkeeper again!  I think I have never topped about 20 crew names in one day,

If it were in my power, I would grant you a "tearing of hair and gnashing of teeth" emoticon.

(http://kookabura.smugmug.com/photos/i-JHxPLxw/0/Ti/i-JHxPLxw-Ti.png)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Maikel on 09 February 2015, 03:09:53
Tell me about it, it happened several times on Yorktown too.
Before a change in command almost all men were disrated.
First action of the new commander was to return them to their original rating.
Nice, twice in succession such a long list of names. :(
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Hanibal94 on 09 February 2015, 10:57:47
If I had known what I was getting myself into (http://forum.oldweather.org/index.php?topic=3341.msg96447#msg96447) when I decided to take over the Pioneer's crew lists, I would never have done so!
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: AvastMH on 09 February 2015, 12:49:10
I've decide to do the following...check Asterix's admirable lists to make sure that changes are there. I have presumed that they went into the database, but even so have copied them in (checking them as I go) as I go along if I end up with them. Anyone editing the P will undoubtedly use that thread for further information so all should be well.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Michael on 09 February 2015, 13:30:20
If I had known what I was getting myself into (http://forum.oldweather.org/index.php?topic=3341.msg96447#msg96447) when I decided to take over the Pioneer's crew lists, I would never have done so!
Fortunately I have Captain Pommy Stuart to keep me honest, four eyes are so much better than two!
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 09 February 2015, 14:25:47
If I had known what I was getting myself into (http://forum.oldweather.org/index.php?topic=3341.msg96447#msg96447) when I decided to take over the Pioneer's crew lists, I would never have done so!

Sorry, Hanibal.   :'(
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Hanibal94 on 09 February 2015, 14:46:04
It's alright, Stuart. The ship is done and out, and so the crew list is done and out too.
But I learned my lesson - from now on, I will NEVER take over any crew list, no matter how hard people beg me to.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Craig on 09 February 2015, 15:05:19
I won't even try, then.  ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 09 February 2015, 15:43:29
Sorry also to Michael.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Craig on 10 February 2015, 16:08:43
Someone posted a link to an interesting article a few days ago about the uncertainty of determining whether an extreme weather event was caused by global warming.
Does anyone remember where the link is? I can't remember where it was and I didn't finish reading the article.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Hanibal94 on 11 February 2015, 05:52:35
Have you tried looking through your browsing history, Craig?
You can open it with Ctrl+H when the browser's up.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Craig on 11 February 2015, 06:38:29
For some reason it only shows today's sites, Hanibal. There must be a setting to clear it regularly since I haven't deleted anything recently.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Hanibal94 on 11 February 2015, 06:55:13
What browser do you use, Craig?
I assumed it was Firefox, which gives you several options for sorting your history - default seems to be by date, then by website, and finally by alphabet - at least, that's what I get.
It should look something like this:

(http://kb.mozillazine.org/images/Fx4HistorySidebar.png)

With Chrome, the search history is just one huge chronological list. At least that one comes with a search function.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Craig on 11 February 2015, 07:26:17
I use IE for the Forum, Hanibal. When I do Ctrl H I only get "Today". My computer was re-booted by Windows last night so it may have cleared my history. I use Firefox for transcribing and the Firefox history was not cleared but there are no links there other than those to OW.

I will look again through the postings from about 4 days ago. This time I will search by the names of members who are most active. I thought it was Randi who posted it but she didn't.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Hanibal94 on 11 February 2015, 07:58:36
Maybe this will help. http://www.wikihow.com/Access-Internet-Explorer-History

Why do you use two different browsers for transcribing and for the forum?
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Craig on 11 February 2015, 08:54:31
It's gone, Hanibal. Nothing but today's links show up.

I got in the habit of keeping two browsers open when I was helping prepare the ship description pages. It was easier to flip back and forth between two different ships. And the version of IE didn't work well at the time when the pages got too long so I switch one to Firefox. Probably no longer necessary but I just got used to having two.

Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Hanibal94 on 11 February 2015, 09:12:45
Okay... in that case, I can't help you anymore. Sorry.
All I can say is that I wasn't the one who posted that link, so no need to check my posts.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 11 February 2015, 14:30:41
 My computer was re-booted by Windows last night so it may have cleared my history.
Hi Craig.
I set my PC to download and advise me. Then I can re-boot in my time.
I used to dread super Tuesday as I use to forget which one it was.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: AvastMH on 11 February 2015, 16:54:12
I'm not happy either...just did a whole page of Patterson - accidentally hit the enter key twice and somehow the page went off on its own - can't find it at all.  :'( :'( :'(
I'm off to make up the garden birds' breakfast.  :(
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Craig on 11 February 2015, 16:58:04
Sometimes I can just click on the browser arrow to restore a page when I accidently press a key combination that kicks me out of OW, Joan. This is with Foxfire. I think it is usually the right arrow but if that doesn't work try the left.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: exim202 on 12 February 2015, 07:24:28
Hi all
Having a day off sick today (but not too ill to sit at the laptop and do OW  ;) ) Just thought I'd poke my nose in and say hello.
Doing 3rd transcriber on Perry and looking forward to getting her finished - only a year or two to go (log time, can't say about real time...  ;D ;D )
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Craig on 12 February 2015, 08:36:25
I see you have your priorities right, exim202  ;D  Nothing like OW transcribing to make you feel better.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: jil on 12 February 2015, 09:02:20
Get well soon exim, but not too soon  ;)

I've just received a Christmas card. It was posted on 14th Dec in a town about 30 miles away  >:(
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: exim202 on 12 February 2015, 09:03:18
I see you have your priorities right, exim202  ;D  Nothing like OW transcribing to make you feel better.

Sure does  ;)  Above the neck in Alaska, below cozy in front of the woodburner stove - drives away the ills...

Thanks, Jil  :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 12 February 2015, 15:05:54
I see you have your priorities right, exim202  ;D  Nothing like OW transcribing to make you feel better.

Sure does  ;)  Above the neck in Alaska, below cozy in front of the woodburner stove - drives away the ills...

Thanks, Jil  :)

I have you on the map in Berkshire?
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: AvastMH on 12 February 2015, 17:26:20
I see you have your priorities right, exim202  ;D  Nothing like OW transcribing to make you feel better.

Sure does  ;)  Above the neck in Alaska, below cozy in front of the woodburner stove - drives away the ills...

Thanks, Jil  :)

I have you on the map in Berkshire?

Haven't you heard of continental drift Stuart - it's FASTER than you think  ;) ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: exim202 on 13 February 2015, 08:18:28
 ;D ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Michael on 13 February 2015, 20:33:09
Why transcribers get old and grey before their time:

From Concord, May 1900. I sit in wonder at their record keeping...

On May 12 saw Gallagher written as Galliger and McInerny as McNierny...
On the 13th it's McNeirny and Galligar...
On the 14th it's McNierney and Galliger...

 :o  :'(
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 13 February 2015, 21:14:50
The joy of being a transcriber is, you don't need to figure out which one is right and the fix all the others.  All you have to do is TYWS and smirk at the editor-to-be.  ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Michael on 13 February 2015, 21:22:19
The joy of being a transcriber is, you don't need to figure out which one is right and the fix all the others.  All you have to do is TYWS and smirk at the editor-to-be.  ;)

Yes, and I am one of the very best smirkers!!!   ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Caro on 14 February 2015, 03:58:28
(http://www.amazing-animations.com/animations/valentine4.gif) Happy Valentine's day OW. :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: AvastMH on 14 February 2015, 05:57:13
Yeh! Happy Valentine's Day. Love to you all and chocs all round
(http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/320x240q90/661/1LjZ4D.jpg)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: AvastMH on 14 February 2015, 06:23:11
Sometimes I can just click on the browser arrow to restore a page when I accidently press a key combination that kicks me out of OW, Joan. This is with Foxfire. I think it is usually the right arrow but if that doesn't work try the left.

Thanks Craig. I'm using Chrome. I've never had so many 'kick-outs' as I have the last few days. I've done about 50 WR - and not one registered  >:( >:( >:(  because I'm a bit clumsy with the keyboard. I think it is the 'right' direction key - thanks for the hint. I might try sticking a bit of paper next to it so it's really difficult to depress and so wipe everything out. I tried using the browser controls to get the page back - but no luck - sigh!
I think I 'll go and sort out the kitchen instead...(things MUST be desperate   ;) )
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Randi on 14 February 2015, 08:28:36
Why transcribers get old and grey before their time:

From Concord, May 1900. I sit in wonder at their record keeping...

On May 12 saw Gallagher written as Galliger and McInerny as McNierny...
On the 13th it's McNeirny and Galligar...
On the 14th it's McNierney and Galliger...

 :o  :'(

I don't have very fancy crew lists, but I include links to the pages so that I can (try to) check the spelling:
Quote
Smith, George (Ordinary Seaman)
14 Jan 1848 - Punished: http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Jamestown/vol003of067/vol003of067_097_1.jpg
13 Mar 1948 - Punished: http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Jamestown/vol003of067/vol003of067_127_0.jpg
23 Mar 1848 - Punished: http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Jamestown/vol003of067/vol003of067_132_0.jpg
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 14 February 2015, 08:31:44
George Smith found a TARDIS?
Quote
13 Mar 1948 - Punished

 :o
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Randi on 14 February 2015, 08:35:23
Oops!
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 14 February 2015, 08:38:40
 ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: AvastMH on 17 February 2015, 15:32:19
Happy Mardi Gras everyone....pancakes all round  :D :P

(http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/640x480q90/910/bxdFql.jpg)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Caro on 17 February 2015, 15:57:22
I like that one, Joan.  ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 17 February 2015, 15:59:23
(http://images4.fanpop.com/image/photos/18700000/Happy-Mardi-Gras-new-orleans-18782595-650-488.gif)

Mardi Gras was non-existent in my childhood neighborhood, but I love the art of this one - and the idea of celebrating life.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 17 February 2015, 19:37:42
Don't be shocked, just be enlightened when you see the Doodle for the 18 Feb.  %^)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 17 February 2015, 22:06:38
I looked it up early, for the US.   8)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Caro on 18 February 2015, 02:40:02
It's a great doodle.  :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Randi on 18 February 2015, 02:54:49
 ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: exim202 on 18 February 2015, 05:50:00
Can someone enlighten me? What doodle?
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Hanibal94 on 18 February 2015, 05:56:46
The Google Doodle. This one is for Alessandro Volta.
You'll have to switch to a local version to see it - in other words, google.co.uk and google.de should be fine, but google.com will not be. Actually, this one does pop up on google.com, but some doodles are local only.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 18 February 2015, 07:35:00
The Google Doodle. This one is for Alessandro Volta.
You'll have to switch to a local version to see it - in other words, google.co.uk and google.de should be fine, but google.com will not be.

Not so - the https://www.google.com/ in the US lights up from its voltaic cell very nicely, thank you.    :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: exim202 on 18 February 2015, 13:41:18
Thank you. I've seen the light!  Electrifying!! :D
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 18 February 2015, 14:03:48
Happy Lunar New Year when it comes around.

Not sure if it is the Year of the sheep, ram, or goat but I guess it is not worth bleating about it.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 18 February 2015, 18:57:06
According to Wiki, sheep or goat depends on the culture.  Half of them over the 60 year full cycle are Yin=male and therefore might be ram instead.  Supposedly not for the half that are Yang=female.  A fifth of them over the 60 year cycle are made of Wood and are blue-green.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Helen J on 19 February 2015, 09:26:57
Just realised this is my animal (or animals.... ) - perhaps I should go and explore a bit.  I quite fancy the blue-green option.   :D
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 19 February 2015, 10:07:14
I find the Chinese 60 year cycle calendar to be fascinating.  12 animals, 5 elements, yin & yang.  Can't all be used or it would be a 120 year cycle, and I've never figured it all out but it is fun to look up the details of a particular year.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Helen J on 19 February 2015, 10:53:35
And I do turn out to be a Wood Goat (!) and hence blue green - or azure dragon, which sounds even more exotic.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 19 February 2015, 11:27:41
And I am a Yang=female Earth Rat - its yellow and its Primal Spirit is the yellow dragon.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Hanibal94 on 19 February 2015, 11:57:21
Actually, there's several signs:

Quote
It is a common misconception that the animals assigned by year are the only signs and many western descriptions of Chinese astrology draw solely on this system. In fact, there are also animal signs assigned by month (called inner animals), by day (called true animals) and hours (called secret animals).

While a person might appear to be a Dragon because they were born in the year of the Dragon, they might also be a Snake internally, an Ox truly, and a Goat secretively.

Took me a while, but I think I got them all with some help from here. (http://bonniemd.hubpages.com/hub/Chinese-Astrology-Determining-Your-Month-Day-and-Hour-Animal)

Okay, so let's see: According to the year, I'm a Wood Dog, so I get the azure dragon as well.
I managed to find something for the months and solar terms  (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_zodiac#Months_and_solar_terms) - according to that, I am a Fire Horse internally, and the Primal Spirit of that one is the Vermilion Bird (a.k.a Phoenix).
Then, my true animal (day) is a Sheep, and my secret one... Okay, I do not know what hour I was born at, so I picked Noon, and got the Horse.

Gotta admit, I kinda like the idea of my secret animal being a Horse....
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 19 February 2015, 12:33:29
That I hadn't known.  So I'm...

Year                        Month          Day              Hour
Yang                        Fire
Earth                       Dragon         Rat, Pig        Tiger
Rat                          (inner)          (true)           (secret)
Yellow Dragon
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 19 February 2015, 14:40:56
What on earth are you lot on about?  ???
I'm just a male.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 20 February 2015, 00:08:43
Are all our Aussie members and their families OK?  The BBC America news report this evening made the situation on the north and east coasts sound dire.
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-australia-31544694
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 20 February 2015, 03:00:44
Hi Janet.
Just a bit of a storm (Cat4)
Some areas are getting a battering, but like you and the cold weather, they are all set up for cyclones.
Not heard of any fatalities (and don't want to either) but there is a lot of beach erosion.
Stuart.

Cyclone Lam (cat4) over the NT
(https://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSBMVDLqRKuSMYOzbTK13-GuWcyNKjhCG-uSJnDRA0UBeOvJ-KxFA)  marcia (cat4, just been downgraded to cat2) on the East coast.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 20 February 2015, 09:59:58
Glad to hear no loss of life yet.  Take care of yourself.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Kookaburra on 20 February 2015, 12:06:09
Fortunately those are not highly populated areas.  The remote terrain does make it a bit more difficult to provide necessary aid though, so cheers (and support) to the Red Cross who is already actively helping folks in the affected areas.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Dean on 20 February 2015, 12:45:22
Getting 'caught up' on editing with HMS Hood.

Temps here are -9?F (-23?C) so it's too cold for much else!!

It's been an 'interesting' winter. The last time we saw temps above freezing was 25 January!
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Hanibal94 on 20 February 2015, 13:05:21
Perhaps that sign has one L too many?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hel_(location) - this one is actually supposed to be very cold (according to other sources)!
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: AvastMH on 21 February 2015, 07:34:15
Actually, there's several signs:

Quote
It is a common misconception that the animals assigned by year are the only signs and many western descriptions of Chinese astrology draw solely on this system. In fact, there are also animal signs assigned by month (called inner animals), by day (called true animals) and hours (called secret animals).

While a person might appear to be a Dragon because they were born in the year of the Dragon, they might also be a Snake internally, an Ox truly, and a Goat secretively.

Took me a while, but I think I got them all with some help from here. (http://bonniemd.hubpages.com/hub/Chinese-Astrology-Determining-Your-Month-Day-and-Hour-Animal)

Okay, so let's see: According to the year, I'm a Wood Dog, so I get the azure dragon as well.
I managed to find something for the months and solar terms  (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_zodiac#Months_and_solar_terms) - according to that, I am a Fire Horse internally, and the Primal Spirit of that one is the Vermilion Bird (a.k.a Phoenix).
Then, my true animal (day) is a Sheep, and my secret one... Okay, I do not know what hour I was born at, so I picked Noon, and got the Horse.

Gotta admit, I kinda like the idea of my secret animal being a Horse....

Got very confused by this but I think my secret self (if it is just based on the hour you arrived) is an Ox (1.05 a.m.), my year is 'Dog'.  Not sure how that works out  ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Randi on 22 February 2015, 05:15:31
Belated
Happy Birthday
to
elizabeth
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: elizabeth on 22 February 2015, 06:31:08
quote author=Randi link=topic=5.msg104024#msg104024 date=1424600131]
Belated
Happy Birthday
to
elizabeth
;D ;D ;D Here I was thinking ......Yes no  one noticed!   LOL  Oh well , Yes it happened another Birthday. Oh my!
Thank you
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Caro on 22 February 2015, 06:42:41
Dear Liz, did you check Facebook?  :-*
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Hanibal94 on 22 February 2015, 07:27:19
Happy Birthday, Elizabeth!

Nice to see you are still around - I was beginning to think you had left forever!
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Dean on 22 February 2015, 08:55:48
Happy Birthday, Elizabeth!!!
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 22 February 2015, 11:36:36
Happy Birthday, Elizabeth!

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-VxUTn81BsWc/VM51uBHCIBI/AAAAAAAABuQ/5BFNqusSZP0/w292-h400-no/Birthday-Cake-Kitten.jpg)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Randi on 22 February 2015, 12:38:45
 ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: exim202 on 22 February 2015, 14:47:29
Happy Birthday Elizabeth - from an old shipmate on Perry!
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 22 February 2015, 15:54:14
Elizabeth.
Hope you had a great day (indoors probably, looking at the weather)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: elizabeth on 23 February 2015, 02:23:11
 ;D Thanks to all of you.   :-* :-*
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Caro on 23 February 2015, 14:07:02
I don't often read the Siberian Times ...
http://siberiantimes.com/other/others/features/f0064-russian-plan-to-locate-and-raise-the-wreck-of-schooner-uss-jeannette-in-arctic-waters/
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Randi on 23 February 2015, 14:23:37
 8) 8) 8)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 23 February 2015, 14:44:34
I don't often read the Siberian Times ...
http://siberiantimes.com/other/others/features/f0064-russian-plan-to-locate-and-raise-the-wreck-of-schooner-uss-jeannette-in-arctic-waters/

Great little story. I hope it gets the go ahead.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 23 February 2015, 14:57:47
That would be so very cool.  :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: exim202 on 23 February 2015, 16:31:09
 ???  :D a strange thing just happened with Perry.
I logged off for an hour or so to have dinner, and when I came back an entire month or more of entries had been done. :o
Are the elves helping out? If so, what do they like being rewarded with, so that we can get them to do more?  ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Randi on 23 February 2015, 16:35:26
Seems to be someone new that hasn't made it into the top 12 yet ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Hanibal94 on 23 February 2015, 17:04:37
A whole month done in just about an hour?
That's very good - I hope this is somebody who stays!
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: exim202 on 23 February 2015, 17:13:23
Yeah, this is impressive. I'll take longer dinner breaks in future  ;)

 :-* :-* to whoever it is, anyway!
(Never thought I'd be exchanging kisses with a complete stranger, or strangers, I'd met on the internet)  ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Randi on 24 February 2015, 13:26:20
Weighing Anchor: An artist at sea

Artist Jules George has undertaken several trips with the Royal Navy during the past four years. From the Middle East Gulf to the Falkland Islands, he has documented day-to-day life on board HMS Argyll - a Type 23 frigate - and HMS Tireless - a Trafalgar-class nuclear-powered submarine.  (http://www.bbc.com/news/in-pictures-31417365)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 24 February 2015, 13:49:52
Cool!!

Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Dean on 24 February 2015, 14:38:00
Way cool!!!!   8)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Hanibal94 on 24 February 2015, 15:32:35
Great artwork!!  :D 8)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Craig on 24 February 2015, 15:44:53
Very nice  8)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Caro on 25 February 2015, 02:56:44
(http://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/625/media/images/80931000/jpg/_80931542_boardingsequenceiii-25cmx32.5cm,oilonpaper2013.jpg)

I like this one a lot. Thanks Randi.  :)

Morning all.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: jil on 25 February 2015, 04:09:55
Very evocative paintings.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: exim202 on 25 February 2015, 08:34:32
Wonderful - I love the artwork, the colours and the sense of light, and the interesting contrast with the subject - a hard, matter of fact world of military operation, and the people in it. Thanks Randi!  :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Thursday Next on 25 February 2015, 14:59:27
???  :D a strange thing just happened with Perry.
I logged off for an hour or so to have dinner, and when I came back an entire month or more of entries had been done. :o
Are the elves helping out? If so, what do they like being rewarded with, so that we can get them to do more?  ;)

The problem is, can anyone be sure that person actually entered any data?  I haven't worked on Phase 3 so am not sure how you sign off each page, but I know on Phases 1 & 2 from time to time something similar happened.  I always suspected that someone new might just be taking a look then clicking "I'm finished with this page" because they wanted to look at another page, without realizing that meant the page would be filed.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Randi on 25 February 2015, 15:03:33
Unfortunately, that is possible.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Hanibal94 on 25 February 2015, 16:13:49
Well, leelaht and I each did that part when we were working on the Perry, so at least the PTB can use our transcriptions.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: leelaht on 25 February 2015, 21:21:49
I don't know if it was Perry, but I also recall a period of time travelling with the logs.  So there could be a slug of doubles.  I figure if something is wildly out of whack, the PTB can repost the whacky bit for another crack at transcribing.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 27 February 2015, 00:41:54
Anybody know where there is a good copy of this?
http://www.archive.org/stream/pronouncinggazet00unitrich/pronouncinggazet00unitrich_djvu.txt (http://www.archive.org/stream/pronouncinggazet00unitrich/pronouncinggazet00unitrich_djvu.txt)

from this google search

magnok Bay Luzon Id

TIA



Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 27 February 2015, 01:43:50
https://archive.org/details/pronouncinggazet00unitrich
Comes in 8 formats, including clear original (cannot use search) scan and the garbled full text you quoted.

Quote
Index:
Magnok (Matnoc) Gulf (chart No. 1724), E. shore San Bernardino Strait, Sorsogon, Luzon, lat. 12? 36' N., Ion. 124? 6' E   p.623
Full entry screen cap attached

With varied spellings Magnok/Matnoc/Matnog within the same book it's no wonder you had trouble finding it.  Modern google maps go with Matnog.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 27 February 2015, 03:03:38
Thanks Janet.
Michael and I are used to many speelings of crew names EVEN on the same page, so why should places be any different?  %^)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: propriome on 27 February 2015, 04:47:59
Are there problems with amazonaws.com or it's just me?

That server provides several of the images on the forum (like zooniverse user's avatars) and all our logbook pages...
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Randi on 27 February 2015, 04:53:09
i haven't noticed anything today, but I haven't been doing too much :-\
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Hanibal94 on 27 February 2015, 05:03:32
I've transcribed about 10 pages on two different ships so far, haven't noticed anything wrong.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: propriome on 27 February 2015, 06:36:27
That's pretty odd...

Still down from here, my requests stop on an amazon.com machine, with no graphic shown...
Could be something with my pretty restrictive firewall here at work (but hadn't similar issues before - if it blocks something an access denied page is shown, moreover requests stops at amazon and not inside the lan), will check again later, and try tonight from home.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: exim202 on 27 February 2015, 07:19:56
Accessing jpg pages fine here too.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 27 February 2015, 08:22:04
No problems in Chicago.  Hope you figure out what's going on by you.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: propriome on 27 February 2015, 09:12:05
No definitive hint, but  something weird for sure on my lan at work... sorry for the false alarm :(

Using a proxy or forcing SSL with a proper Firefox extension (amazonaws works on https as well) gives no problem both in forum and on transcribing interface.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 27 February 2015, 13:11:23
Not a false alarm - I'd rather hear of a local problem than fail to report a system problem to the PTB.  I'm glad you found a work-around.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Randi on 27 February 2015, 13:31:14
When some of the .mil sites suddenly stopped working for me, he figured out the problem and found a work-around with a proxy!

(A few months ago they started working normally again ::))
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 27 February 2015, 15:37:16
We've lost an icon in our world of imagination.

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/qu5dAtfGOsgBbhACW5z4pR9sTOekjprOfkR78Uu6waY=w380-h207-p-no)

Where ever you are, Leonard, live long and continue to prosper.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Caro on 27 February 2015, 15:54:48
Farewell Mr Spock.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: AvastMH on 28 February 2015, 10:06:35
I did sciences at school partly because of him and his character :'( :'( :'(
Yes - live long and prosper in your new universe Mr Spock.  :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Randi on 28 February 2015, 10:19:17
The original Star Trek series was one of the few TV shows I watched.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Caro on 28 February 2015, 11:52:30
(https://scontent-lhr.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpf1/v/t1.0-9/10982892_10152745289266872_7004693423455267383_n.jpg?oh=1cec6b4bd76802e0e7fa0494b8c82159&oe=5594BCCB)

 ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: AvastMH on 28 February 2015, 12:08:25
Some chromatic confusion?  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Thursday Next on 28 February 2015, 14:23:27
(https://scontent-lhr.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpf1/v/t1.0-9/10982892_10152745289266872_7004693423455267383_n.jpg?oh=1cec6b4bd76802e0e7fa0494b8c82159&oe=5594BCCB)

 ;D

 ;D ;D ;D

The dress looked white and gold to me!
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Michael on 28 February 2015, 15:14:26
Hmmm. I thought it was a dog.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Hanibal94 on 28 February 2015, 16:19:45
In case anybody is confused, here's the dress in question:
Personally, I think it's blue and gold.

(http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/images/81284000/jpg/_81284606_untitled.jpg)

EDIT: Turns out the correct answer is black and blue. Here's proof:

(http://cdn1.spiegel.de/images/image-817440-panoV9free-flfc.jpg)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Caro on 28 February 2015, 16:56:59
The dress in the lower picture is blue and black, yes.
In the top pic, the one that everyone is disagreeing about, it looks light blue and gold to me. Sometimes white and gold.
I prefer the kitty anyway.  :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 28 February 2015, 17:23:46
It is amazing just how much editing our brain does with the light images sent it - and how easy it is to accidentally put an optical illusion together.  I've seen a fabric artist put together green and brown quilting pieces in the evening in yellowish electric lighting that looked absolutely identical in daylight - nobody could see they were different colors.  She could never have created that on purpose.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Michael on 28 February 2015, 18:36:53
It is amazing just how much editing our brain does with the light images sent it - and how easy it is to accidentally put an optical illusion together.  I've seen a fabric artist put together green and brown quilting pieces in the evening in yellowish electric lighting that looked absolutely identical in daylight - nobody could see they were different colors.  She could never have created that on purpose.
Years ago, when I was in Ottawa for four months learning how to observe the weather, I took two courses at the National Gallery (Art). One was about modern art, and it was fabulous. One of the exhibits consisted of 16, I think, squares that were each a couple of feet on a side, joined together to form one large square. The squares were various shades of red: reddish orange; Crimson; purplish red; and, etc. Each colour was unique. The squares were done by art students. Each day one student had to bring a square of red to the class. The red had to be a pure red, not orange-red, nor purplish red, etc. The class would vote on it to decide if it was pure red. If "Yes", the square was saved for the exhibit, and if "No" the student had to go back and prepare another square. Some students were able to produce a pure red on the first try; some took as many as three tries before they got it. When the squares were assembled, the results showed not 16 identical squares, but 16 squares of varying shades of red. It was an interesting display about our ability to perceive colour.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 28 February 2015, 19:41:46
Red more so than any other color, I think.  It is dangerous to try to wear 2 items in red at the same time, if you bought them separately thinking the second was the same.  They never match, and more often fight each other rather than complement. 

Also very interesting to get a complete color-blind test with a group of friends.  Standard says if you fail at only 1 to 3 of the cards, you are not color blind.  My friends and I all tested normal, failing on only 1 or 2 cards each - and never ever the same card twice, and never anyone perfect.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Caro on 01 March 2015, 04:02:28
Good morning all. Dydd Gwyl Dewi hapus! :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Randi on 01 March 2015, 07:16:32
Speaking of colors...

(https://www.sciencenews.org/sites/default/files/main/articles/030715_scivis_Antarctica.jpg)

Photographer captures rare image of recently overturned berg (https://www.sciencenews.org/article/glassy-blue-iceberg-goes-belly)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 01 March 2015, 09:02:39
Talk about blue...  :)

And Happy St. David's Day back to you, Caro.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 01 March 2015, 21:01:20
Who thought of such a delicious thing as Taffie Day? 
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 02 March 2015, 03:33:06
Pulled my post down as I did not read the wiki link.
Sorry.

 :-[
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 02 March 2015, 03:48:07
Thank you.  And to all, Belated Happy St. David's Day.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Caro on 02 March 2015, 04:21:03
Lagoon power plants planned for UK: http://m.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-31682529
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 02 March 2015, 06:26:03
That is a very interesting alternative for coastal communities - and it even looks graceful.  Nice.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 02 March 2015, 07:50:05
Now we had an event yesterday here that requires good-hearted downright-crazy people, and an effort from Chicago Streets and Sanitation the day before to plow the snow off the Lake ice and then the ice itself, enough to create a liquid lagoon.  Air temp at the time of the event was about 21F (-6C).

Chicago's Polar Plunge 2015 (http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/chi-actor-vince-vaughn-ready-to-make-icy-plunge-in-lake-michigan-20150301-story.html)

Me, I don't have the courage.  They did raise over $1million for the Special Olympics.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Craig on 02 March 2015, 12:24:49
Lagoon power plants planned for UK: http://m.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-31682529

The article says the lagoon is designed to last 120 years. I wonder if they have considered rising sea levels in this. At some point low tide may be higher than the sea wall.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: AvastMH on 02 March 2015, 14:09:38
Now we had an event yesterday here that requires good-hearted downright-crazy people, and an effort from Chicago Streets and Sanitation the day before to plow the snow off the Lake ice and then the ice itself, enough to create a liquid lagoon.  Air temp at the time of the event was about 21F (-6C).

Chicago's Polar Plunge 2015 (http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/chi-actor-vince-vaughn-ready-to-make-icy-plunge-in-lake-michigan-20150301-story.html)

Me, I don't have the courage.  They did raise over $1million for the Special Olympics.

Good for them! And I absolutely back you for not going in yourself Janet...brrrrrrrrrrr!  Someone dry and warm has to cheer them on!  :D
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: AvastMH on 02 March 2015, 14:14:10
Lagoon power plants planned for UK: http://m.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-31682529

The article says the lagoon is designed to last 120 years. I wonder if they have considered rising sea levels in this. At some point low tide may be higher than the sea wall.

Well I hate to be a spoilsport. But the French in Brittany had tidal lagoons to run mills for a very long time:  http://www.fredericback.com/cultures-du-monde/france/bretagne/architectures/les-moulins/le-moulin-a-maree.00100.en.shtml

The anglers in the UK are very concerned about fish being minced by the generators, and/or damage being caused by the power of the water flooding out.  Haven't had a chance to ask the Biodiversity folk at work about this  :-\
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: jil on 02 March 2015, 18:32:23
Interesting prog on BBC4 this evening - Climate Change by Numbers (http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p02jsdrk). Explaining the maths used in climate science. Starts with how they deal with incorporating our not completely reliable old data into the data sets.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: leelaht on 02 March 2015, 20:02:46
darn, can't watch unless in UK  :(
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 02 March 2015, 20:13:56
I'm hoping this is one of the shows they will share with PBS - a surprising number of documentaries now are either PBS-BBC or BBC-PBS.  Can any Brits say if they indicated PBS involvement?
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Caro on 03 March 2015, 03:05:39
There is no PBS involvement mentioned in the credits.
I haven't watched the program yet.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 03 March 2015, 05:20:04
Sigh.   :'(
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Hanibal94 on 03 March 2015, 05:58:51
Try Hola Better Internet - it's a free browser extension that allows you to access websites via a foreign proxy server, so you can trick the site into thinking you're in that country when you're not.
It's available for Firefox and Chrome - I've used it to access BBC stuff from Germany, and it works. It just takes a little longer to load because everything has to go through the proxy.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 03 March 2015, 06:42:18
Just installed - very easy on Chrome from their app store, free, and it works.  Thank you.  :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Michael on 03 March 2015, 12:15:42
Try Hola Better Internet - it's a free browser extension that allows you to access websites via a foreign proxy server, so you can trick the site into thinking you're in that country when you're not.
It's available for Firefox and Chrome - I've used it to access BBC stuff from Germany, and it works. It just takes a little longer to load because everything has to go through the proxy.

Hanibal... Thanks for the tip. If seen you mention it before, but you are finally dragging me into the 21st century! I'm downloading the BBC player so I can download the show so I can watch it without the buffering. Popcorn tonight!!!  ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 03 March 2015, 12:50:26
Try Hola Better Internet - it's a free browser extension that allows you to access websites via a foreign proxy server, so you can trick the site into thinking you're in that country when you're not.
It's available for Firefox and Chrome - I've used it to access BBC stuff from Germany, and it works. It just takes a little longer to load because everything has to go through the proxy.

Hanibal... Thanks for the tip. If seen you mention it before, but you are finally dragging me into the 21st century! I'm downloading the BBC player so I can download the show so I can watch it without the buffering. Popcorn tonight!!!  ;D

An excellent show indeed - well worth dragging us non-geek dinosaurs into the present.  I'm a documentary freak, watch all sorts of things on PBS and then go looking for other sources.  :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Dean on 03 March 2015, 12:55:03
Couldn't make it work for me even after I downloaded the Chrome app.  I'll have to try later.

Janet, what did you do since it appeared to work for you?!
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: exim202 on 03 March 2015, 13:35:09
Interesting prog on BBC4 this evening - Climate Change by Numbers (http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p02jsdrk). Explaining the maths used in climate science. Starts with how they deal with incorporating our not completely reliable old data into the data sets.
Just going to watch it now on iPlayer, thanks Jil. :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 03 March 2015, 14:00:06
Couldn't make it work for me even after I downloaded the Chrome app.  I'll have to try later.

Janet, what did you do since it appeared to work for you?!

Did you get the Hola Better drop down box saying did it work.
I did this time and clicked the No button.
The app tried again and I was IN.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 03 March 2015, 14:26:47
Couldn't make it work for me even after I downloaded the Chrome app.  I'll have to try later.

Janet, what did you do since it appeared to work for you?!

Nothing, I just clicked "BBC" on their choices and was sent to the BBC site.  Searched for and found the show, and clicked it.  My (already installed) iPlayer immediately started up in a new tab.  I thought that "did it work" dropdown was a PR question.  I'm glad to know it is functional and re-uploads the show.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Caro on 03 March 2015, 14:44:28
Now that everybody is watching the Beeb, you might like to check out this program too:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b05527mp
It will be available on the iPlayer soon after it has been broadcast tonight.  :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: AvastMH on 03 March 2015, 15:15:07
Awww -not yet uploaded (patience is a virtue, patience is a virtue...)  :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Dean on 03 March 2015, 16:08:17
Couldn't make it work for me even after I downloaded the Chrome app.  I'll have to try later.

Janet, what did you do since it appeared to work for you?!

Nothing, I just clicked "BBC" on their choices and was sent to the BBC site.  Searched for and found the show, and clicked it.  My (already installed) iPlayer immediately started up in a new tab.  I thought that "did it work" dropdown was a PR question.  I'm glad to know it is functional and re-uploads the show.

OK. Took some 'doing.' Had to go to Chrome and start 'HOLA' first. THEN look for BBC and find program.  Play looked like it was going to take forever and then I wouldn't have 75 min to watch so I got BBC downloader and now have program (I think) to watch later.

Stay tuned!! or as we say 'News at 6:00 Film at 11:00!!'   8)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: leelaht on 03 March 2015, 18:00:14
I didn't time it, but between googling "hola better" and the program starting... I think it took about 30 secs.   ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Michael on 03 March 2015, 22:40:17
I was able to watch the program, though I only watched for 30 secs just to make sure it worked. I prefer to download, but the BBC downloader didn't seem to work; i. e. nothing seemed to be happening. I wasn't sure if Hola works with it or not. If it works for you, let me know, and I will try it again.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Hanibal94 on 04 March 2015, 10:32:51
I don't know about the downloader because I've never used it - I've only ever viewed stuff online, which can take a little while.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: exim202 on 04 March 2015, 12:31:10
I'll be having a bit of a break over the summer (it's not easy to see the screen sitting outdoors   ::) ;D ) but will drop in for the occasional bit of transcribing and forum fun, and hope to pick up another ship in the winter. You are a lovely bunch and I've enjoyed working and hanging out with you all!
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Caro on 04 March 2015, 14:48:43
Enjoy yourself. Glad you found us and we look forward to seeing you again soonish.  :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Randi on 04 March 2015, 14:54:48
Despite your questionable taste in friends ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Randi on 04 March 2015, 15:51:14
'First human' discovered in Ethiopia (http://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-31718336)
Quote
The dating of the jawbone might help answer one of the key questions in human evolution. What caused some apes to climb down from the trees and make their homes on the ground.

A separate study in Science hints that a change in climate might have been a factor. An analysis of the fossilised plant and animal life in the area suggests that what had once been lush forest had become dry grassland.

As the trees made way for vast plains, apes found a way of exploiting the new environmental niche, developing bigger brains and becoming less reliant on having big jaws and teeth by using tools.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Dean on 04 March 2015, 17:18:46
I was able to watch the program, though I only watched for 30 secs just to make sure it worked. I prefer to download, but the BBC downloader didn't seem to work; i. e. nothing seemed to be happening. I wasn't sure if Hola works with it or not. If it works for you, let me know, and I will try it again.

Downloader did NOT work for me. I'll 'play' when I have time, but it looks like I'll have to watch in real time. 
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Michael on 04 March 2015, 18:23:32
I was able to watch the program, though I only watched for 30 secs just to make sure it worked. I prefer to download, but the BBC downloader didn't seem to work; i. e. nothing seemed to be happening. I wasn't sure if Hola works with it or not. If it works for you, let me know, and I will try it again.

Downloader did NOT work for me. I'll 'play' when I have time, but it looks like I'll have to watch in real time.

OK! I tried to run it as administrator, but that didn't work either, so I just streamed it. Very good program. (I assume that when one tried to download, BBC can figure out your location.)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Michael on 04 March 2015, 18:28:23
Isn't Mother Nature Grand! Northern Lights Monday night near Whitehorse, Yukon.



Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 04 March 2015, 18:29:51
Awesome.  :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Caro on 05 March 2015, 02:30:53
Good morning OW and a happy 503rd birthday to Gerardus Mercator.   :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Randi on 05 March 2015, 07:09:55
Stunning, Michael!
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 05 March 2015, 07:15:11
They have a different doodle than Mercatur in the US:
"Thursday marks the 105th birthday of Taiwanese-Japanese inventor Momofuku Ando, whose instant noodles revolutionized the food world, and Google is honoring this king of quick cuisine with a new Google Doodle."

(http://lh4.ggpht.com/6xy1lqxirmLA9i9qD6CVQqJjbGmkMBNc4tYZ6jmHaoqe-PQBMMQlV_Y8Wr6XGwjUlrQAkyOOj-0DejIuSFoFK9cYGRaC96i3G1o2xV8=s660)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Danny252 on 05 March 2015, 08:37:49
Turns out that I get a different image to both of those - because Google has worked out that it's my birthday!

(https://www.google.co.uk/logos/2012/birthday12-thp.png)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Randi on 05 March 2015, 08:46:56
Happy Birthday

Danny252
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: propriome on 05 March 2015, 08:48:57
:D :D Happy birthday Danny! :D :D
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 05 March 2015, 09:01:09
Happy Birthday, Danny!!

(http://www.sherv.net/cm/emoticons/birthday/birthday-surprise-smiley-emoticon.gif)

Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Randi on 05 March 2015, 09:03:22
Love that cake, Janet ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Caro on 05 March 2015, 12:46:03
(http://www.netanimations.net/slice-of-birthday-cake-with-feet-walking.gif) Happy birthday Danny  ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Michael on 05 March 2015, 12:50:52
Happy Birthday from me, too!!!
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Randi on 05 March 2015, 13:36:20
That's a good one too, Caro ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Hanibal94 on 05 March 2015, 14:19:36
Happy Birthday from me as well, Danny!

Interesting - according to your profile, you are younger than I thought (No offense!).
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: jil on 05 March 2015, 14:47:42
Happy Birthday Danny!
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Craig on 05 March 2015, 17:12:19
Happy birthday from me too, Danny.  (It's scary that Google knows your birth date. I would have mine changed  8)).
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 05 March 2015, 19:43:03
Turns out that I get a different image to both of those - because Google has worked out that it's my birthday!

(https://www.google.co.uk/logos/2012/birthday12-thp.png)

Googled 'Dannys birthday' and could not find the doodle you came up with.
Your not having us on there are you Danny?

Just in case you are not, Happy Birthday.
 
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 05 March 2015, 19:53:00
You got too specific - they have that service for everyone.

https://www.google.com/get/googletips/card/love-doodles-get-your-own-on-your-birthday/detail/
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 05 March 2015, 20:40:46
Your link only took me to here
https://www.google.com/get/googletips/en/landing/ (https://www.google.com/get/googletips/en/landing/)

Googled further and it says I should be able to get a greeting but it never worked in the past %^(
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 05 March 2015, 21:56:25
Different continents get different google sites I think.  Try googling a phrase from the attached screen cap to see if you can find the Aussie version.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Caro on 06 March 2015, 04:17:09
I think it works like this. If you have a Google profile (you supply your birth date when you sign up for one of the many Google products or services: Gmail, YouTube, Drive, AdSense etc) and are logged in on your birthday, you will get a personalised birthday doodle.

Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Hanibal94 on 06 March 2015, 16:01:15
Millions at risk from Freak encryption bug

http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-31765672

Online tool to check whether your browser is safe: https://freakattack.com/
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Caro on 06 March 2015, 17:02:10
Thanks for the warning, Hanibal.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 06 March 2015, 17:43:48
I just read a long and interesting article about climate change in the Guardian (US edition) - because of their ads I cannot put the link here, but you might try googling "don't look away now the climate crisis needs you" - they say it is mostly excerpts from a new book, "THIS CHANGES EVERYTHING" by Naomi Klein.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Kathy on 07 March 2015, 17:31:49
Just had to pass this along -

http://www.filmpreservation.org/preserved-films/screening-room/u-s-navy-documentary-1915
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Randi on 07 March 2015, 17:45:14
 8)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Hanibal94 on 08 March 2015, 05:00:06
Something interesting I found:

Gibbon taunts tigers (https://www.youtube.com/embed/fPXkUXXFoCw)

This is a great example of the phrase "Brave or mad?"
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 08 March 2015, 07:01:02
Definitely mad!!  :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Danny252 on 08 March 2015, 07:17:12
A slightly belated thanks.for the happy birthday wishes! As some pointed out, I must have put my birthday into one of my Google accounts - I don't remember doing it, but hey ho!
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Kathy on 09 March 2015, 14:18:15
Interesting -
http://www.slate.com/blogs/future_tense/2015/03/02/study_climate_change_helped_spark_syrian_civil_war.html
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 09 March 2015, 14:25:19
I read somewhere unknown a long time ago, there are always large economic woes on at least the aggressors' side behind all religious wars because if everyone is relatively well fed and secure, it is very had to make them take up arms and destroy their own peace.  This is my idea of an example.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Hanibal94 on 11 March 2015, 15:36:30
An interesting and rather disgusting bit of naval trivia I found today:

(http://i.crackedcdn.com/phpimages/photoshop/0/0/2/379002.jpg?v=1)

Proof from Wiki (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Torpedo_juice)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: tastiger on 11 March 2015, 15:54:31
An interesting and rather disgusting bit of naval trivia I found today:

(http://i.crackedcdn.com/phpimages/photoshop/0/0/2/379002.jpg?v=1)

Proof from Wiki (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Torpedo_juice)

o.O I guess that's one way of having a good time, although I think I'd pass in this case...
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Randi on 11 March 2015, 16:24:44
I'd definitely pass!
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Caro on 11 March 2015, 16:58:08
I'm sure I remember a scene in the film called The Master where sailors were drinking torpedo fuel.
Bleh!
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Michael on 11 March 2015, 18:07:28
Reasons to keep your chats short:

Just ask IBM's super computer Watson (as seen on Jeopardy and coming soon to health care near you).
Using the same deep analytics technology, Watson will scan any text you write (needs 100 words minimum), and analyze your underlying personality traits.

Watson's got you figured out. (http://watson-um-demo.mybluemix.net/)

As to the torpedo fuel: my dad claimed that Canadian soldiers in WW II sometimes drank the antifreeze from their trucks. He said that the soldiers would strain the antifreeze through a loaf of bread with the ends cut off. He said that the men in the Royal 22nd Regiment (The Van Doos) would go one farther and eat the bread.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 11 March 2015, 18:20:10
I totally believe all of that - thank goodness Watson is so expensive and too limited to bother with retired single women.  And war is hard, I'd be surprised if they didn't find some variation on a still - just so they don't offer that stuff to me. ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Randi on 12 March 2015, 07:58:46
I gave Watson Albatross's log book ;D

Quote
Lieut. Comdr. Z. L. Tanner
Friday January 25'th 1884

Commences and until 4 A.M. - Partly cloudy, with occasional passing showers.
Moderate to fresh breeze from E. by N. Steering course S. by W. 1/2 W. until 2.00, then N. by W.
sounding every five miles. P.L. at change of course read 36.5; at end of watch 39.6.
                                                                                                 L. M. Garrett.
                                                                                                         Ensign

4 to 8 A.M. - Squally, with fresh breeze from N'd and E'd, Mod. to rough sea.
at 4.15 sounded in 990 fathoms, yellow sand and shells. Run five miles N x W (p.c.)
and sounded (5.40) in 993 fms., same bottom. Run five miles N x W (p.c.) and
sounded (7.15) in 1243 fathoms, same bottom. Av. steam 47. Revols. 57. George
Kershaw, 2 C.F. confined on bread and water until further orders, by order of
Comd'g. Officer, for disobedience of orders.                                   S. H. May.
                                                                                                          Lieut.

8 to Merid. - Clear and warm. Gentle to Moderate N.E. breeze. At 8.53 stopped and
sounded (Sigsbee's Machine) in 2188 fathoms, coral sand. Hauled in Pat. log, registering
56.5. Took serial temperatures with Sigsbee's Machine, Small Machine and dredge rope.
Average steam 48. Average revs. 50.                                             A. C. Baker
                                                                                                           Lieut.

Merid. to 4 P.M. - Clear and pleasant. Gentle to Moderate breeze from N.E. At 12.50
started ahead on course S.S.W. 1/2 W. (P.L. 56.5). At 1.25 stopped (P.L. 61.5) and sound-
ed in 1345 fms (white coral sand and small shells). At 2.23 started ahead and
and at 3. stopped (P.L. 66.5) and sounded in 789 fms. (white coral sand and minute shells) At
3.25 started ahead. At 4. stopped to sound; P.L. then read 71.5. Av. steam 48. Revs.
49.5.                                                                                          C. J. Boush
                                                                                                         Ensign

4 to 6 P.M. - Partly cloudy. Moderate N.E. breeze. At 4.00 P.L. reading 71.5, sounded
in 578 fms, bottom fine coral sand and foraminifera. Started ahead at 4.20, course S.S.W 1/2 W.
At 4.55, P.L. 76.5, got bottom at 1303 fms., same character as before; went ahead on
course at 5.45 P.L. at end of watch 78.5. Revs. 50. Steam 47.        L. M. Garrett.
                                                                                                         Ensign

6 to 8 P.M. - Pleasant, with Mod. N.E. breeze. At 6.24 sounded in 2017 fathoms (coral
and shells). At 7.40 began taking serial temps. Avr. Steam 48. Revs. 52.
                                                                                                 S. H. May.
                                                                                                         Lieut.

8 P.M. to Midnight. - Partially clear. Passing shower second hour. Fresh breeze from N'd and
E'd. Took serial temperatures with Sigsbee's Machine. At 10.10 started ahead, course S.E. by S.
Made fore and aft sail. Put over pat. log registering 82. At end of watch pat. log read 93.9.
Average steam 48. Average revs. 48.                                           A C Baker
                                                                                                      Lieut.


                                                                                                     Seaton Schroeder
                                                                                                            Lieut. U.S.N.

You are inner-directed, tranquil and rational.

You are adventurous: you are eager to experience new things. You are philosophical: you are open to and intrigued by new ideas and love to explore them. And you are deliberate: you carefully think through decisions before making them.

Your choices are driven by a desire for discovery.

You are relatively unconcerned with helping others: you think people can handle their own business without interference. You consider tradition to guide a large part of what you do: you highly respect the groups you belong to and follow their guidance.



Openness 100%
Adventurousness 100%
Artistic interests 56%
Emotionality 0%
Imagination 98%
Intellect 100%
Authority-challenging 100%
Conscientiousness 89%
Achievement striving 95%
Cautiousness 100%
Dutifulness 37%
Orderliness 6%
Self-discipline 94%
Self-efficacy 86%
Extraversion 0%
Activity level 24%
Assertiveness 0%
Cheerfulness 0%
Excitement-seeking 0%
Outgoing 0%
Gregariousness 0%
Agreeableness 11%
Altruism 14%
Cooperation 100%
Modesty 15%
Uncompromising 97%
Sympathy 98%
Trust 100%
Emotional range 9%
Fiery 0%
Prone to worry 3%
Melancholy 1%
Immoderation 22%
Self-consciousness 14%
Susceptible to stress 13%
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 12 March 2015, 09:04:36
 ;D ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Caro on 12 March 2015, 09:35:52
Albatross sounds like a thoroughly nice ship; perhaps more than a little introverted however?  ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Caro on 12 March 2015, 11:43:03
(http://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/625/media/images/81600000/jpg/_81600230_21d7e4b7-0ef8-45f5-a72f-496371c890fe.jpg)

Vale, Terry Pratchett.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Helen J on 12 March 2015, 11:46:32
He will be very much missed - a great loss to readers everywhere.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: AvastMH on 12 March 2015, 12:48:27
(http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/320x240q90/661/VXzfnV.jpg)


May the turtle of the universe carry you on to greater galaxies, Terry...
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 12 March 2015, 12:55:35
Rest in Peace, Terry - and thanks for enriching our world.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Thursday Next on 12 March 2015, 14:45:46
I was also very sorry to hear of the death of Sir Terry Pratchett, 66 is not very old these days.  Rest in Peace.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Michael on 12 March 2015, 20:18:36
I'm afraid to see what Watson thinks of Concord.  ::)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 12 March 2015, 20:42:06
Did you try feeding him one of the paragraphs listing punishments?  ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Hanibal94 on 13 March 2015, 02:09:27
I gave the Events page from the Concord's Reference topic to Watson for chewing on.

Input:

Quote
Commander J.E. Craig
Sunday; June 9 1895

Commences and until 4 A.M.
Fair and warm. Light Westerly airs, and calm. Barometer falling a little. Ciro-cumulus
clouds. Steam on stbd. after boiler. Distilling.
Lay H. Eurhart,
Ensign.

4 to 8 A.M.
Cloudy weather, overcast 1st two hours. Calms and light airs from S.E. Barometer nearly steady.
Cumulus, nimbus and cirro-cumulus clouds. Receiving fresh water on board in Equipt.
Dept. from R.H. Powers and Co. of Nagasaki, and filling both for'd and port after boilers.
Rec'd on board in Pay Dept. from R.H. Powers and Co. of Nagasaki, 100 lbs. of fresh bread, 125
lbs. of fresh beef and 125 lbs. of fresh vegetables. At 7.00 the "Charleston" made the following
general signals 6391, 3352, 3956. (uniform and time). Ran port dynamo set from 4.55 to
8.00. Steam on starboard after boiler. Distilling. No current.
W. A. Gill
Lieutenant.

8 A.M. to Meridian.
Cloudy and pleasant. Light airs from S.E. to light breeze from S.W. Cirro-cumulus and
nimbus clouds. Bar. rising slowly. At 9.30 held preliminary inspection of crew at quarters -
absent without leave O. Sundblad (Actg. GM 3 C.) and W. Cunningham (Ap. 1 C.). At 9.30
made general signal numeral 2 (sick report). At 9.45 the Commander inspected the
crew at quarters and the ship. Ran port dynamo from 8.30 to 9.30 and again from
9.50 to 10.00. Rec'd in Eng'rs. Dept. 6 Brass Pet Cocks 1/4", and 6 Brass Pet Cocks 3/8". Steam
on stbd. after boiler. Distilling. Finished taking in fresh water from shore, having received
in all 20 tons.
C.M. Fahs
Ensign.

Meridian to 4 P.M.
Cloudy and hot. Light S.W. breeze. Barometer steady. Nimbus and cirro-cumulus
clouds. Steam on stbd. after boiler. Distilling.
Lay H. Eurhart,
Ensign.

4 to 8 P.M.
Cloudy and pleasant. Light airs and breezes from S.W. Nimbus and cirro-cumulus
clouds. Bar. steady. W. Cunningham (Ap. 1 C) was brought on board by the US
Marshall Mr. Nevill 34 hrs. over leave and a reward of $9.52 was paid to Mr. Nevill
for his apprehension and delivery. Transferred to the U.S.S. Charleston for passage
to the U.S. by P.M.S.S. "Rio Janeiro" the following men with their necessary transfer
papers, bags and hammocks:- Mentirnos, M. (Act'g. B.M. 2 C.), Petersen, E. (Sea.), Conroy,
P. (F. 2 C.), and Conway, J. B. (C.P.). A French man-of war came in and anchored at
7.58. Steam on stbd. after boiler. Distilling. The Charleston at 7.30 made Int. Signal
to the fleet. "The U.S.S. Concord will sail for Chernulpo Monday 10 A.M. will take mail".
The French ships Bayard and Alger and the English Gunboat Daphne replied (same
code) Thanks. Ran port dynamo from 6.59 to 8.00.
C.M. Fahs
Ensign.

8 P.M. to Midnight.
Cloudy and warm. Light breeze from S.W. to S.W. by W. Barometer about steady. Nimbus
and cirro-cumulus clouds. A man-of-war came in and anchored in the lower
harbor. O. Sundblad (Actg. G.M. 3 C.) returned 13 hours over leave. Distilling. Steam on
stbd. after boiler. Ran port dynamo from 8.00 to 11.10 - App. H.W. Moseley standing watch
for instruction.
Lay H. Eurhart,
Ensign

G. A. Merriam
Lieut. and Navigator.

Output:

You are inner-directed, skeptical and strict.

You are adventurous: you are eager to experience new things. You are imaginative: you have a wild imagination. And you are solemn: you are generally serious and do not joke much.

Your choices are driven by a desire for revelry.

You are relatively unconcerned with both helping others and taking pleasure in life. You think people can handle their own business without interference. And you prefer activities with a purpose greater than just personal enjoyment.

Openness
100%
Adventurousness
100%
Artistic interests
72%
Emotionality
0%
Imagination
100%
Intellect
100%
Authority-challenging
100%
Conscientiousness
97%
Achievement striving
94%
Cautiousness
98%
Dutifulness
11%
Orderliness
1%
Self-discipline
93%
Self-efficacy
88%
Extraversion
0%
Activity level
10%
Assertiveness
0%
Cheerfulness
0%
Excitement-seeking
0%
Outgoing
0%
Gregariousness
0%
Agreeableness
2%
Altruism
7%
Cooperation
98%
Modesty
3%
Uncompromising
45%
Sympathy
98%
Trust
92%
Emotional range
3%
Fiery
0%
Prone to worry
1%
Melancholy
1%
Immoderation
12%
Self-consciousness
4%
Susceptible to stress
0%
Needs
Challenge
33%
Closeness
0%
Curiosity
95%
Excitement
100%
Harmony
0%
Ideal
100%
Liberty
45%
Love
5%
Practicality
18%
Self-expression
100%
Stability
30%
Structure
1%
Values
Conservation
81%
Openness to change
44%
Hedonism
3%
Self-enhancement
73%
Self-transcendence
1%
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Randi on 13 March 2015, 02:17:08
 ;D

Quote
And you are solemn: you are generally serious and do not joke much.

Your choices are driven by a desire for revelry.

Watson can't seem to make up its mind about Concord.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Caro on 13 March 2015, 04:24:39
This summary of HMS Parramatta (typical example of the trawler/minesweepers, bless 'em) is pretty accurate.  ;D

Openness 96%
Adventurousness 100%
Artistic interests 6%
Emotionality 0%
Imagination 94%
Intellect 100%
Authority-challenging 100%
Conscientiousness 55%
Achievement striving 75%
Cautiousness 96%
Dutifulness 45%
Orderliness 0%
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Tegwen on 13 March 2015, 04:51:24
(http://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/625/media/images/81600000/jpg/_81600230_21d7e4b7-0ef8-45f5-a72f-496371c890fe.jpg)

Vale, Terry Pratchett.

Indeed RIP Terry, he lived very near to me, and was regularly to be seen in Frome. A lovely man who will be sadly missed.

Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 13 March 2015, 07:24:30
(http://s6.postimg.org/w7wm4h0fl/Ultimate_Pi_Day.jpg)


If you are on a am/pm clock, this happens twice in a lifetime.  :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Randi on 13 March 2015, 07:50:05
Adventurousness 100% and Authority-challenging 100% seem rather opposed to Cautiousness 96% :-\
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Craig on 13 March 2015, 09:49:07
I think Watson might have read too much into the word "distilling"  ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Michael on 13 March 2015, 15:30:05
I should put in the text about O. Anderson under the influence and vomiting on deck!
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Caro on 15 March 2015, 03:46:02
Morning all. Happy Mother's Day (UK, Ireland and Nigeria) to all the mums. :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 15 March 2015, 07:42:05
Happy Mother's Day, UK, Ireland and Nigeria :)

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-_wt4GBEkqh0/VDpAQrd6NFI/AAAAAAAABIU/L07eJ4LVxh4/w560-h456-no/All_20110508054313_Happy%2BMother%27s%2BDay%21_292.jpg)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 17 March 2015, 09:08:43
(http://s6.postimg.org/wxqxkq4xd/St_Pats_Day.jpg)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Michael on 18 March 2015, 10:29:15
Sorry, people.  :'( I just can't resist...

Here is the full news release on the 2015 greater Victoria Flower Count. 17,257,368,541 blooms counted! City of Colwood retains their title of "Bloomingest Community". Students in Mr. Laurie's grade 4/5 class from Ecole John Stubbs Memorial with 3,201,009,764 flowers counted! Thank you to all who participated!

 :) * 17 billion
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 18 March 2015, 10:52:39
Michael, why did someone make children count billions of flowers? ???
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Michael on 18 March 2015, 11:51:51
Michael, why did someone make children count billions of flowers? ???

What better way to learn to count! Don't you just love the accuracy to 11 significant figures? Everyone in the city is allowed to count, not just children. This is the 39th year that there has been a Victoria Blossom count - it's our way of thumbing our noses at the people in Winnipeg, Ottawa, Halifax and all the other cities suffering with a long cold snowy winter. Actually, we should add one more to the count - another plum blossom just popped on our tree...  ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 18 March 2015, 11:58:31
Well, it is a cool idea and definitely leaves me downright jealous.  I'm only 2 weeks out of deep winter here in the midwest - the best I can see is closed tree buds starting to swell. :'(
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Thursday Next on 18 March 2015, 15:09:17
Michael, why did someone make children count billions of flowers? ???

What better way to learn to count! Don't you just love the accuracy to 11 significant figures? Everyone in the city is allowed to count, not just children. This is the 39th year that there has been a Victoria Blossom count - it's our way of thumbing our noses at the people in Winnipeg, Ottawa, Halifax and all the other cities suffering with a long cold snowy winter. Actually, we should add one more to the count - another plum blossom just popped on our tree...  ;D

But for all you know another couple of blooms faded and died somewhere else ... how on earth do they avoid double counting?  ???
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: AvastMH on 18 March 2015, 16:48:16
Another flower on my Japanese Quince popped out - and went straight down a Great Tit's throat.  :(  That bird surely can't eat all of them  ;) ;D

Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: AvastMH on 18 March 2015, 16:51:07
http://forum.oldweather.org/index.php?topic=3654.msg105501#msg105501
For those interested in the WeatherDatum Event on Monday that I went to in Sheffield, I've put some information (some of which you might wish to react to) on the above thread.
I'll pm Philip and Kevin to bring it to their attentions since some of Paula Goodale's work might be of great interest to them.

Right - back to flower counting everyone  :D
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Michael on 18 March 2015, 22:56:58
Michael, why did someone make children count billions of flowers? ???

What better way to learn to count! Don't you just love the accuracy to 11 significant figures? Everyone in the city is allowed to count, not just children. This is the 39th year that there has been a Victoria Blossom count - it's our way of thumbing our noses at the people in Winnipeg, Ottawa, Halifax and all the other cities suffering with a long cold snowy winter. Actually, we should add one more to the count - another plum blossom just popped on our tree...  ;D
But for all you know another couple of blooms faded and died somewhere else ... how on earth do they avoid double counting?  ???

Here is the official site (http://flowercount.com/), which will answer some questions, and probably raise several others...

Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 18 March 2015, 23:19:26
I visited Victoria and Butchart Gardens once on a day trip when my mom was living near Port Angeles in Washington.  It is beautiful, and I do envy you all your February joys.  (And you are right, they are trying to torment the rest of the northern half of the continent. ;D )
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Michael on 19 March 2015, 11:32:22
I visited Victoria and Butchart Gardens once on a day trip when my mom was living near Port Angeles in Washington.  It is beautiful, and I do envy you all your February joys.  (And you are right, they are trying to torment the rest of the northern half of the continent. ;D )

Well, Janet, if you're ever back this way, we'll take to some of the other special places around town.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 19 March 2015, 12:09:16
If I travel that way again, I will indeed take you up on that.  :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Helen J on 20 March 2015, 09:41:24
And more citizen science - schools all over the UK have been involved in making measurements of the weather during the eclipse which we enjoyed this morning.  They're measuring wind speed and temperature, and sending all the info to Reading University.  Apparently this is the first eclipse (certainly in the UK) for which this has been done, so it should add a lot to the knowledge about the effects of eclipses, especially in relation to the wind.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Randi on 20 March 2015, 09:52:42
 8)
I have to admit I hadn't thought about that.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Thursday Next on 20 March 2015, 09:59:28
I had an unexpectedly brilliant view of the eclipse.  After half an hour sitting in the garden, looking at an overcast sky and getting cold, at about 9.20 the cloud thinned and with a few minutes to maximum coverage the sun became visible.  The cloud acted as a perfect filter and my eclipse viewing glasses were redundant most of the time.  We only had 85% coverage in Devon, but it was still wonderful to see.   8)  :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Michael on 20 March 2015, 11:01:52
And more citizen science - schools all over the UK have been involved in making measurements of the weather during the eclipse which we enjoyed this morning.  They're measuring wind speed and temperature, and sending all the info to Reading University.  Apparently this is the first eclipse (certainly in the UK) for which this has been done, so it should add a lot to the knowledge about the effects of eclipses, especially in relation to the wind.


When I was working in the weather office in Chatham N.B., there was a partial eclipse. I remember that the towering cumulus and cumulo-nimbus just flattened right out once the eclipse got underway. I can't remember, for sure, but I think the temperature dropped a bit. The change in cloud cover was very dramatic. If I recall, they didn't build up again after the eclipse was over.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Helen J on 20 March 2015, 11:20:29
I was in a good place to see it, and made myself a pinhole viewer (two pieces of cardboard).  It wasn't a brilliant image, but I could definitely see the shape changing.  I spent an hour or so dotting in and out between watching on TV, and going out to see what was happening 'live'.  The light definitely changed a lot, to an eerie sort of twilight, and it got colder, as the eclipse progressed.  The timing was excellent - there was cloud building up, and by the time the moon was moving away again the sun was quite hidden by the clouds, but for the main event it was clear.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: studentforever on 20 March 2015, 11:41:04
You are lucky!! 8.30 and clear sky & sunny. They've got the weather forecast wrong,  I thought. So I hastened to make a pinhole camera, 10 mins later, thin cloud, you could see where the sun was but that was all. 15 min later, thick, dark cloud.  It did get quite dark at maximum coverage, we should have seen 95% or so, but the sun could have been anywhere. By 11.30am the sun had re-emerged.  Malicious I call it!
 :'( :'(
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Maikel on 21 March 2015, 03:04:50
Fog, no sun to be seen. :(
It got quite a bit darker though.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: h.kohler on 21 March 2015, 03:17:06
We had a great view through some black radiological films. The temperature dropped about 5 degrees although the cover was only 75%.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: AvastMH on 21 March 2015, 15:35:59
Got really lucky yesterday morning - we had very thin cloud over Oxford - enough to see exactly what was going on - not enough sun to damage the eyes. I made a viewing 'telescope' out of a cardboard poster tube with a small hole at one end and an opaque thin plastic film at the other...worked well - hurrah!  Well - roll on the next full UK eclipse in 2090 (I can HOPE can't I?  ::) :o ;D )
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: exim202 on 22 March 2015, 15:51:05
I was down in Somerset for the weekend - the cloud thinned just in time to see it start, and we got glimpses every few minutes after that through the thinner patches - more tantalising than watching it all clearly. A great memory!
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Helen J on 22 March 2015, 16:16:10
Changing the topic - my total lack of transcribing today is the fault of Richard III - I turned on a programme about the first day of the reburial events, and emerged nearly three hours later.  It was unexpectedly moving at times, as the bones changed from the subject of scientific research to a man (even if a king) being brought for burial.
I was as amazed as I always am at TV's lack of comprehension of the most basic religious facts, though.  If there's a wrong end to a stick, they'll get hold of it and hang on grimly.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 22 March 2015, 16:47:41
How interesting - that event totally missed being announced in the US on any source I pay attention to, not surprisingly.  It's history from before our written history ever started with Columbus' discovery of the new world and the large majority of Americans are not majorly descended from the English. 

It still very much catches my imagination.  I'm googling to find some replay of the event.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Hanibal94 on 22 March 2015, 16:56:25
Here's some quick news on the reburial: http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-leicestershire-31990721
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: AvastMH on 22 March 2015, 17:20:02
Oh Helen - I so agree!  I think the wrong end of the stick syndrome is positively painful. Some of the conversation with reference to the religious side of things was grim. And the bizarre level of interest in the change of the top level of the church instead of the thoughts that come to the mind upon the translation of a King's body from a science lab to a place of holy rest is beyond my ken. I think it's shameful. I so hope that they will manage a bit better on Thursday.
I've been a fan of RIII since about age 15. And I have to say that the history side of it is painful too. We really can manage better history than this.  Between now and Thursday I'd be more than grateful if the tv programme presenters concentrated on the worthy works of this religious man who caused the City of York to write:
"'King Richard late mercifully reigning upon us was thrugh grete treason of the duc of Northefolk and many othre that turned ayenst hyme, with many othre lordes and nobilles of this north parties, was pitiously slane and murdred to the grete hevynesse of this citie'"

Yes - I found some of it very moving too, and was very taken by the number of Leicester's citizens that lined the roads - and the number of white roses thrown. I thought the service in the Cathedral was intelligent and moving. I'm going to need a big box of tissues come Thursday.

Just peeped at that BBC article Hanibal (thanks for posting). Looks like the pro-York-burial folk are still very, very angry. If you wanted to be romantic RIII would be buried in York, and they'd remove his wife, Anne, from Westminster Abbey to York Minster to be with him.  But I'd rather spend the cash on shelters for the homeless - and I believe that RIII would understand that.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 22 March 2015, 17:22:51
If today was the funeral, what happens on Thursday?
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: studentforever on 22 March 2015, 18:21:00
As I understand it, Richard's remains were taken to the University who conducted the archaeological dig. The rules for human remains say that they must be interred appropriately close to where they were disinterred. So after much argument they are to be interred in the Cathedral which I don't think was built at the time Richard was killed.  They decided that today they would take the remains, in their new coffin, back to the battlefield, visit the Church of St Nicholas which would have been the city church at that time and across the bridge where Shakespeare had him declaiming his need for a horse. His coffin will now be on display in the Cathedral for people to pay their respects before the actual re-burial on Thursday.

You can argue about the propriety of the re-visiting of sites associated with Richard but the idea of a procession plus a lying in state is now a normal part of a state funeral.  I am sure that, despite the arguments between different interested parties, the ceremony on Thursday will be be a fitting tribute to a man, however flawed, who was the crowned King of England.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Michael on 22 March 2015, 19:05:17
How interesting - that event totally missed being announced in the US on any source I pay attention to, not surprisingly.  It's history from before our written history ever started with Columbus' discovery of the new world and the large majority of Americans are not majorly descended from the English. 

It still very much catches my imagination.  I'm googling to find some replay of the event.

We had mention of Richard III and the ceremonies mentioned on the national news (CBC radio) a couple of times today. I was pleased to hear something other than news about terrorists.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 22 March 2015, 19:39:29
That all makes sense.  Including, unfortunately, all the wrangling between different parties.  But as far as national pride goes, you can be blamed for cheating this King of his due respect to the whole nation or you can be blamed for giving him too much exposure.  I don't believe it is possible to satisfy everyone so forget about reaching for a middle ground. 

In terms of more pragmatic issues, the nation was just shown that amazing things can happen if you remember to fund archaeology.  This is a lousy primary reason for it, but a very solid and good supporting reason. 

And it draws the attention of lots of foreigners like me to see England give due notice to its rulers.

In my opinion. :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 23 March 2015, 10:59:10
Warning to members living the northeast US - a fast moving storm hit Chicago at the start of rush hour today and is dropping around 5 inches of white stuff on us.  :(

I suppose this counts as spring as a thaw is expected by Wednesday. 
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Helen J on 23 March 2015, 12:53:55
5 inches of snow as spring!  I'm so glad I live somewhere with rather gentler weather ....
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Helen J on 23 March 2015, 12:58:45
Oh Helen - I so agree!  I think the wrong end of the stick syndrome is positively painful. Some of the conversation with reference to the religious side of things was grim. And the bizarre level of interest in the change of the top level of the church instead of the thoughts that come to the mind upon the translation of a King's body from a science lab to a place of holy rest is beyond my ken. I think it's shameful. I so hope that they will manage a bit better on Thursday.
I've been a fan of RIII since about age 15. And I have to say that the history side of it is painful too. We really can mange better history than this.  Between now and Thursday I'd be more than grateful if the tv programme presenters concentrated on the worthy works of this religious man who caused the City of York to write:
"'King Richard late mercifully reigning upon us was thrugh grete treason of the duc of Northefolk and many othre that turned ayenst hyme, with many othre lordes and nobilles of this north parties, was pitiously slane and murdred to the grete hevynesse of this citie'"

Yes - I found some of it very moving too, and was very taken by the number of Leicester's citizens that lined the roads - and the number of white roses thrown. I thought the service in the Cathedral was intelligent and moving. I'm going to need a big box of tissues come Thursday.

Just peeped at that BBC article Hanibal (thanks for posting). Looks like the pro-York-burial folk are still very, very angry. If you wanted to be romantic RIII would be buried in York, and they'd remove his wife, Anne, from Westminster Abbey to York Minster to be with him.  But I'd rather spend the cash on shelters for the homeless - and I believe that RIII would understand that.

I'm glad it's not just me, Joan!  I think it's ignorance rather than anything more sinister.  I liked Cardinal Nicholl's reply to a question about Richard III being a Catholic (intended to discover a problem I suspect); he simply said 'well he didn't have any choice'.  That's one of the points they regularly miss - being a Catholic then wasn't a choice between various churches, it was simply being a Christian.  However I agree with you about the service; it was beautifully done and redressed the balance a good bit.

On the history I'm pretty agnostic - having been educated in Scotland we didn't do this period at all, so I didn't grow up knowing there was any debate.  Shakespeare seems to have a lot to answer for - but then he was a dramatist not an historian.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 23 March 2015, 13:03:58
I agree - and apparently everyone on my block had terminated their snow-shoveling contracts because this is what I walked out into this morning.  I'm turning hermit until the sidewalks are either shoveled or thawed.

The good thing about spring snow storms is that they never survive more than a few days.  :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: AvastMH on 23 March 2015, 13:09:19
Good idea to go hermit Janet - icy pavements can be very unforgiving! :o
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Thursday Next on 23 March 2015, 13:19:17
Oh Helen - I so agree!  I think the wrong end of the stick syndrome is positively painful. Some of the conversation with reference to the religious side of things was grim. And the bizarre level of interest in the change of the top level of the church instead of the thoughts that come to the mind upon the translation of a King's body from a science lab to a place of holy rest is beyond my ken. I think it's shameful. I so hope that they will manage a bit better on Thursday.
I've been a fan of RIII since about age 15. And I have to say that the history side of it is painful too. We really can mange better history than this.  Between now and Thursday I'd be more than grateful if the tv programme presenters concentrated on the worthy works of this religious man who caused the City of York to write:
"'King Richard late mercifully reigning upon us was thrugh grete treason of the duc of Northefolk and many othre that turned ayenst hyme, with many othre lordes and nobilles of this north parties, was pitiously slane and murdred to the grete hevynesse of this citie'"

Yes - I found some of it very moving too, and was very taken by the number of Leicester's citizens that lined the roads - and the number of white roses thrown. I thought the service in the Cathedral was intelligent and moving. I'm going to need a big box of tissues come Thursday.

Just peeped at that BBC article Hanibal (thanks for posting). Looks like the pro-York-burial folk are still very, very angry. If you wanted to be romantic RIII would be buried in York, and they'd remove his wife, Anne, from Westminster Abbey to York Minster to be with him.  But I'd rather spend the cash on shelters for the homeless - and I believe that RIII would understand that.

I'm glad it's not just me, Joan!  I think it's ignorance rather than anything more sinister.  I liked Cardinal Nicholl's reply to a question about Richard III being a Catholic (intended to discover a problem I suspect); he simply said 'well he didn't have any choice'.  That's one of the points they regularly miss - being a Catholic then wasn't a choice between various churches, it was simply being a Christian.  However I agree with you about the service; it was beautifully done and redressed the balance a good bit.

On the history I'm pretty agnostic - having been educated in Scotland we didn't do this period at all, so I didn't grow up knowing there was any debate.  Shakespeare seems to have a lot to answer for - but then he was a dramatist not an historian.

I think Shakespeare pretty much had to say what his patrons wanted - one of those patrons was Elizabeth I, grand-daughter of Henry VII who defeated Richard at Bosworth.  Henry's own claim to the throne was pretty shaky so the Tudors were hell bent on blackening Richard's reputation to help justify his seizing the crown.  It's an early example of spin!

My own reading round the subject has left me believing that Richard was pretty average for a medieval monarch, no worse and no better.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Hanibal94 on 23 March 2015, 13:42:57
The schoolboy sailors sent to war in an obsolete battleship (http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-31712158)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 23 March 2015, 14:04:25
A wonderful way of remembering those lovely boys.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Randi on 23 March 2015, 16:27:12
Interesting.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: AvastMH on 24 March 2015, 07:57:58
Amazing - the life styles that we've been lucky enough to avoid?
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Hanibal94 on 24 March 2015, 09:52:17
Amazing - the life styles that we've been lucky enough to avoid?

In my case, yes! I'd be dead meat on a stick if I ended up on the Front.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: AvastMH on 24 March 2015, 12:39:48
Amazing - the life styles that we've been lucky enough to avoid?

In my case, yes! I'd be dead meat on a stick if I ended up on the Front.

 :o :o :o now there's a horrid thought!  Actually, wouldn't you end up working for the intelligence department (like Bletchley Park in WW2)?
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Hanibal94 on 24 March 2015, 13:11:19
:o :o :o now there's a horrid thought!  Actually, wouldn't you end up working for the intelligence department (like Bletchley Park in WW2)?

Probably yes - I'm not sure how physically fit you had to be for the regular troops.
But if I had the choice, I would definitely take Intelligence.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: AvastMH on 29 March 2015, 13:48:25
A few of you know that I've been doing some work for Penguin Watch....very exciting news..they can fly. Filmed on 1st April - proof from the BBC itself  ;) ;) ;D
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9dfWzp7rYR4
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Craig on 29 March 2015, 13:58:12
It's still three days until April fools day. Someone's getting an early start ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: AvastMH on 29 March 2015, 14:03:40
What - 3 days early? - you're not kidding me are you?!  ;) ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Craig on 29 March 2015, 14:59:36
 ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 29 March 2015, 15:25:11
You should have waited a couple more days.  I for sure am sharing it on my facebook on April 1st.   ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: jil on 29 March 2015, 15:34:59
Brilliant video! Thanks, Joan.  ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Hanibal94 on 29 March 2015, 15:51:37
Loved that video! Thanks for posting, Joan
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Helen J on 30 March 2015, 10:22:03
Brilliant - especially loved the shot of one landing in a tropical tree!
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Randi on 30 March 2015, 14:51:57
1,000-year-old onion and garlic eye remedy kills MRSA (http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-nottinghamshire-32117815)
Quote
...
It seems Anglo-Saxon physicians may actually have practiced something pretty close to the modern scientific method, with its emphasis on observation and experimentation.

...

Dr Lee said there are many similar medieval books with treatments for what appear to be bacterial infections.

She said this could suggest people were carrying out detailed scientific studies centuries before bacteria were discovered.
...
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: AvastMH on 30 March 2015, 15:32:04
And what I say to that is - LISTEN to old wives tales - after all, they made it to being old! ;D  Fantastic story, just wonderful.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: studentforever on 30 March 2015, 16:10:39
The Ancient Egyptians used honey to treat certain types of wound infections.  It isn't apocryphal, I translated the hieroglyphs myself on one of my courses!! They distinguished the results from 'closed fractures' (skin unbroken), abrasions over the wound but no exposed bone and 'open fractures' (fractured bone exposed to the environment).  The abrasions were sometimes treated with honey and oil. OK, there were a few incantations used but you have to make the patient feel that the gods were on their side - otherwise known as the induced placebo response. I quoted some fairly recent articles from reputable medical journals in my discussion of the papyrus.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 30 March 2015, 16:46:34
Time and time again, the "uneducated" village herbalist had very valid concoctions that really worked.  They kind of threw a bunch of stuff together, and if it worked kept every ingredient.  So modern pharmacists have to study which thing is providing the medication, but they are very real.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: jil on 30 March 2015, 16:55:54
Hey! That was chat number 10000  :o

It's a wonder we get any transcriptions done  ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 30 March 2015, 16:57:53
 ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Hanibal94 on 30 March 2015, 17:01:56
Well, I certainly do - dunno about the rest of you, though!

Hanibal94 has passed the 300.000 WR mark!
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Randi on 30 March 2015, 17:07:43
Look on the bright side, if the rest of us transcribed as much as you do, you wouldn't have anything to brag about ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: AvastMH on 30 March 2015, 17:15:03
The Ancient Egyptians used honey to treat certain types of wound infections.  It isn't apocryphal, I translated the hieroglyphs myself on one of my courses!! They distinguished the results from 'closed fractures' (skin unbroken), abrasions over the wound but no exposed bone and 'open fractures' (fractured bone exposed to the environment).  The abrasions were sometimes treated with honey and oil. OK, there were a few incantations used but you have to make the patient feel that the gods were on their side - otherwise known as the induced placebo response. I quoted some fairly recent articles from reputable medical journals in my discussion of the papyrus.

I'm VERY impressed by your talent!  :D  And honey is a well known remedy - my mother had leg ulcers for weeks until I persuaded her to use manuka honey dressings - 10  days later - all fixed!
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: AvastMH on 30 March 2015, 17:15:56
Hey! That was chat number 10000  :o

It's a wonder we get any transcriptions done  ;)

Well - we are clearly great at multi-tasking!  ::) ::) ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Hanibal94 on 31 March 2015, 09:28:41
Look on the bright side, if the rest of us transcribed as much as you do, you wouldn't have anything to brag about ;)

Well, if everybody transcribed as much as I did, the whole project would have been done a long time ago, and the scientists would have their sweet sweet data.
But then we'd all be sitting around with nothing to do until the new ships come (if they ever come...), and I wouldn't have had the time to develop and improve myself through interaction on the forum.
Plus, as Randi said, I wouldn't be special at all, and I wouldn't have anything to brag about.

What the heck, it's OK the way it is. Would be nice to have a few more high-power transcribers, though.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Randi on 31 March 2015, 09:39:46
 ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Maikel on 31 March 2015, 10:10:51
Of course you meant to say some scientists would have their data.
All those scientists waiting for the non-meteorological data would be neglected. ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: AvastMH on 31 March 2015, 11:03:09
"Would be nice to have a few more high-power transcribers, though."
If I ever get super-bionic fingers I'll be after that Captain's hat of yours Hanibal  :D
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Hanibal94 on 31 March 2015, 11:25:16
Of course you meant to say some scientists would have their data.
All those scientists waiting for the non-meteorological data would be neglected. ;)

Ah yes. I do keep forgetting the history side of the project because it's so boring and dusty HERESY!!! One does not simply insult people for having different preferences!
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Hanibal94 on 31 March 2015, 11:26:16
"Would be nice to have a few more high-power transcribers, though."
If I ever get super-bionic fingers I'll be after that Captain's hat of yours Hanibal  :D

If it's a race you want, Joan, it's a race you'll get!
Go ahead and put some bang where your bark is - if you can!
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Michael on 31 March 2015, 13:18:53
The other thing to remember is that, if I remember correctly, the U.S. Navy made the logs available IF we agreed to transcribe ALL the miscellaneous events. I think the PTBs convinced them that ALL was neither necessary nor realistic, so we would just transcribe those that were noteworthy. In any case, it is possible that if we said we were doing only the weather, the Navy might not have given them to us at all. Just saying...  :-\
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 31 March 2015, 13:38:05
They did not put stipulations on a full transcription, but I guarantee they WANT a full transcription very much.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Michael on 31 March 2015, 13:46:58
They did not put stipulations on a full transcription, but I guarantee they WANT a full transcription very much.

And they have more and bigger guns than us!!!   ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: AvastMH on 31 March 2015, 13:52:37
"Would be nice to have a few more high-power transcribers, though."
If I ever get super-bionic fingers I'll be after that Captain's hat of yours Hanibal  :D

If it's a race you want, Joan, it's a race you'll get!
Go ahead and put some bang where your bark is - if you can!

 ;D ;D ;D Hanibal - if I ever find some bang I'll let you know - I think I may be bang proof from birth (bang suspected to be missing from own gene pool etc etc) ;) ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: AvastMH on 31 March 2015, 13:57:37
They did not put stipulations on a full transcription, but I guarantee they WANT a full transcription very much.

Well - it occurs to me that, if the database were still open to additional entries of events later on then those doing the editing of histories might have the time to add more in. I agree that the planet is quite happy to be saved asap...but being able to add more details of the history later would be good - and presumably the Navy just accessing the edits is not going to be sufficient unto the needs thereof?
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Michael on 31 March 2015, 14:01:42
Here's a thought....

The US Navy has 325,143 personnel on active duty and 107,355 in the Navy Reserve. You would think they could spare a few people to give us a hand.  ;)

Just think, if each of those people did just one WR, collectively they would have done more than Hanibal!   ;D

Janet, you live in Chicago. Maybe when your Commander-in-Chief is next in town you could suggest it to him. I recall that he's from the Windy City. You must chat with him now and then.  :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: AvastMH on 31 March 2015, 14:03:49
Sorry to interrupt the current thought thread - and this is not a penguin take-over, but I thought that this - and it's NOT and April 1st gag, is quite astonishing:
Full article from ABC TV: http://www.abc.net.au/science/articles/2015/03/30/4205494.htm

(http://www.abc.net.au/reslib/201503/r1405433_20116394.jpg)

Penguin and egg.  So WHEN are they going to find a galaxy like a ship?  :D
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: AvastMH on 31 March 2015, 14:07:06
Here's a thought....

The US Navy has 325,143 personnel on active duty and 107,355 in the Navy Reserve. You would think they could spare a few people to give us a hand.  ;)

Just think, if each of those people did just one WR, collectively they would have done more than Hanibal!   ;D

Janet, you live in Chicago. Maybe when your Commander-in-Chief is next in town you could suggest it to him. I recall that he's from the Windy City. You must chat with him now and then.  :)

Brilliant  idea...although the ability of the Patterson Officers to complete a weather log gives me cause for concern. "Weather direction - Variable, Wind speed - zero"  ::)  Is the Navy really up to the job?  :-\
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Michael on 31 March 2015, 14:10:21
Joan,

You have a point!  :'(
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: AvastMH on 31 March 2015, 14:19:57
Then again all we need is a proper training plan..fetch me a blackboard and chalk, get them sat down in serried ranks of school desks...we can prevail!  8)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Hanibal94 on 31 March 2015, 15:33:10
The other thing to remember is that, if I remember correctly, the U.S. Navy made the logs available IF we agreed to transcribe ALL the miscellaneous events. I think the PTBs convinced them that ALL was neither necessary nor realistic, so we would just transcribe those that were noteworthy. In any case, it is possible that if we said we were doing only the weather, the Navy might not have given them to us at all. Just saying...  :-\

They did not put stipulations on a full transcription, but I guarantee they WANT a full transcription very much.

Scuse me for being overanxious here, but does this all mean it's bad for me to skip almost all the events like I do?
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Michael on 31 March 2015, 15:42:38
Nope. As long as at least one person does them. You and Craig can race ahead on Concord, because Stuart and I will transcribe the Events as well. (I do more on a given page than he does but, even so, I don't come close to entering all the data on the events page.)

That's why I always thought people should have a choice of being WR people, Events people or both, and the WR pages would be done three times and the Events pages just once. You and Craig could be WR people and I would be a "Both" person. If the WR pages were far ahead of the Events page, then the system would preferentially put me on Events. If the Events pages were well ahead of the third stream of the WR pages, then the system would preferentially put me on WRs. People would know that Events pages were being done just once, so they would take extra care to get them right.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: AvastMH on 31 March 2015, 15:57:07
Cor - that's a good idea!

I do some events on the Patterson, but tiny little hints about the geodetic survey seem to be not worth bothering with - those details must be available in full elsewhere. Perhaps I ought to be mentioning who went out with which launch of on their science jaunts? :-\
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 31 March 2015, 16:04:14
First, all our funding comes thru NOAA and climatologists - WRs, dates and locations remain the only absolutely required data.  All of our data counters are allowed to go on putting out lots of WRs and skimping on the rest.

Second, the Archives' desires give our citizen historians full permission to slow down to do any comment transcriptions they want.  Please go on transcribing whatever history interests you.

Third,
Here's a thought....

The US Navy has 325,143 personnel on active duty and 107,355 in the Navy Reserve. You would think they could spare a few people to give us a hand.  ;)

Just think, if each of those people did just one WR, collectively they would have done more than Hanibal!   ;D

Janet, you live in Chicago. Maybe when your Commander-in-Chief is next in town you could suggest it to him. I recall that he's from the Windy City. You must chat with him now and then.  :)

Oh how I wish - I'd have to find a chauffeur to get me up into the far north suburbs the next time he stops at Great Lakes Naval Station.  Anyone here happen to know his travel schedule? ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Hanibal94 on 01 April 2015, 02:09:10
This may or may not be my last post until April 12th.
I am leaving for Sweden for Easter vacation with family this evening, and while the place we're going to supposedly has really good Internet now, I have not tried it out myself on my own laptop, so I cannot say for sure whether it will work.
If it works, I will let you know. If not, Happy Easter everybody, see you all on the 12th when I get back.

Gotta go now. My last exam is today - the one from the Math part of my course. It's probability this time.


Hanibal94
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Randi on 01 April 2015, 02:47:08
Enjoy your Vacation



Good luck on the exam ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Maikel on 01 April 2015, 02:55:01
Ah yes. I do keep forgetting the history side of the project because it's so boring and dusty HERESY!!!

Mmm, narrow-minded view, try open up for the views of others. :)
You keep staring at your own number of weather records, but those who do (full) transcribing of event pages don't get any credit to show for it, whilst doing as much, or perhaps even more work than you do.
So your own comparison to others is wonky, to say the least.

If it's a race you want, Joan, it's a race you'll get!
Please remember, it's not a race, it's science. :)

Success with your exam and enjoy your holiday. :D
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 01 April 2015, 03:24:48
Have a good vacation, Hanibal.  And share joy with historians for their discoveries as well as counters like yourself.  Both are doing good work.  :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: studentforever on 01 April 2015, 04:22:30
Enjoy yourself. Hope the exam goes or went well, depending when you read this. There are bits of the history which are boring, at least I'm not having to stand on a stage over the side of the boat with a scraper or paintbrush in my hand for 4 hours. It doesn't take that long to read it or even type it and move to something else but it does give a very definite flavour of life in port for a sailor.  The exciting bits only happen occasionally, interesting bits more often but, especially in peacetime, life is fairly mundane - bit like housework really.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Michael on 01 April 2015, 12:51:49
Enjoy hour holiday, Hanibal! We'll be here till you get back. And I imagine you'll probably do well on your probability exam!  :D
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: AvastMH on 01 April 2015, 13:32:11
Enjoy Sweden Hanibal! Have a good break - we'll miss you.
The exam? The probability of probable success with 'Probability' is high!  ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Michael on 01 April 2015, 17:59:13
Chances of success are high.  ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 01 April 2015, 18:31:28
Chances of success are high.  ;D

I think that was what Joan was trying to say.  %^)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Michael on 01 April 2015, 18:38:55
Chances of success are high.  ;D

I think that was what Joan was trying to say.  %^)

Odds are that's more than a possibility!
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 01 April 2015, 20:11:43
Chances of success are high.  ;D

I think that was what Joan was trying to say.  %^)

Odds are that's more than a possibility!

Maybe 'Yes' Maybe 'No'
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: AvastMH on 02 April 2015, 03:25:23
 ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Hanibal94 on 02 April 2015, 09:47:24
Good news! I was able to get access to the good Internet here in Sweden, so I won't be suffering from withdrawal symptoms like last year!

As to the probability exam - I believe I passed it, because I managed to answer everything, and while I know now that I did get half of one question wrong, the rest should still be correct.
Plus, my final grade for this part of the course isn't just based on this exam - it's also based on a little programming project I had to do on the QuickSelect algorithm (Ask Google if you don't know what that is). And I know I did really well on that project, although I haven't gotten the grade yet (It will take months before I get them - these professors are so slow!).

Now to tend to my OW daily quota (Vacation or not, I'm still keeping it up!):
- 1 date (weather and events) each on the Albatross 1884 and Jamestown 1866
- 5 dates on the Concord
- as much as I feel like on the Patterson
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Randi on 02 April 2015, 10:20:43
 ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 02 April 2015, 11:31:06
Hanibal, remember to do some of this:

(http://i717.photobucket.com/albums/ww173/prestonjjrtr/Smileys%20Summer/1lg144palmshammock.gif)

(I know, Sweden doesn't have palm trees - substitute appropriate supports. ;) )
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: AvastMH on 02 April 2015, 12:22:17
Hanibal: check out this thread: http://forum.oldweather.org/index.php?topic=5.msg106369#msg106369   (Hint: try reply #10041)

It's very good advice!
 ;D ;D ;D

PS - glad the exam went well  :D
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Randi on 03 April 2015, 15:09:20
Saturday?s lunar eclipse will be total, but brief (https://www.sciencenews.org/blog/science-ticker/saturday%E2%80%99s-lunar-eclipse-will-be-total-brief)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: AvastMH on 03 April 2015, 16:19:15
Nothing in the UK though!!...oh dear I'll have to stay in bed at 4.01 a.m.  ;) ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 03 April 2015, 17:37:58
I wouldn't help me to wake up at 3am because we have thick clouds with the possibility of light snow.  :(
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Randi on 05 April 2015, 04:57:34
(http://0.tqn.com/d/webclipart/1/5/G/K/6/Easter-Egg-Boat.jpg)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: AvastMH on 05 April 2015, 05:33:40
 ;D ;D ;D Fab floating bunnies!

(http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/640x480q90/540/dWWNmr.jpg)   greetings to you all
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 05 April 2015, 07:42:35
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-MjTHNAcVquA/VR8Db7iX3tI/AAAAAAAACIk/l9J3wg35neU/w827-h387-no/Easter.JPG)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: lollia paolina on 05 April 2015, 07:42:56
Happy Easter Old Weather!!
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Helen J on 05 April 2015, 10:25:00
Happy Easter to you all - joy and peace and new life be yours.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Hanibal94 on 05 April 2015, 10:49:18
(http://i.ytimg.com/vi/9cqZUceaNIs/hqdefault.jpg)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Craig on 05 April 2015, 11:52:02
Happy Easter everybody!
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Thursday Next on 05 April 2015, 13:26:24
Wishing everyone a very Happy Easter!
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 09 April 2015, 23:40:52
I'm just needing to say, please send good wishes and prayers to northeastern Illinois - a supercell storm spawning multiple tornados has traveled thru about 80 miles of countryside and small towns about 50 miles north and west of Chicago.  This is mostly rural farm country dotted with small towns, and they are far enough removed from the Lake to be have storm cellars and safe rooms.  Much damage an injury in the towns, so far 1 confirmed death in the town of Fairdale.  Also up to 4 inches of rain and hail.

This is downright scary.  The good news, it was no where near densely populated cities.

(http://s6.postimg.org/vbka4m0dp/Illinois_tornado_April_2015.jpg?noCache=1428637208)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Randi on 10 April 2015, 02:20:37
Done ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Randi on 10 April 2015, 02:57:48
Acidic oceans helped fuel extinction (http://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-32236676)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Michael on 10 April 2015, 11:20:49
Hi Janet,

   I was thinking of you and all the other people in Tornado Alley last evening when we heard the news about the tornadoes. You definitely were in our prayers.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 10 April 2015, 11:43:13
Thank you, Michael, the amazing news is that there are still only 1 dead 2 dead and 11 injured 25 injured, 1 seriously.  Everyone got themselves into storm cellars fast enuf. 
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: AvastMH on 10 April 2015, 14:54:24
Terrible weather out in the US - glad to hear that the damage has not been worse -but sad to lose any life or finds someone damaged by it. Stay safe!  :)

Randi - amazing article about acidic oceans...that's pretty scary too!  :-\ :(
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Helen J on 10 April 2015, 15:21:07
The Illinois storm made it to the UK news (briefly) - some truly terrifying pictures.  I can't imagine what it's like to live in a place with such extreme weather - but as you say, they are prepared for it with storm cellars and the like.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 10 April 2015, 15:48:56
The Midwest and Great Plains are wonderful and plentiful lands.  No one has ever called any part of them "gentle".  We just grow up living with it.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Randi on 10 April 2015, 17:25:12
Source of puzzling cosmic signals found - in the kitchen (https://www.sciencenews.org/article/source-puzzling-cosmic-signals-found-kitchen)
 ;D




link repaired   ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Dean on 10 April 2015, 19:21:45
The proof that there is Intelligent Life on other planets is the fact that they have NOT tried to contact us!!   ::)  ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 10 April 2015, 20:00:33
 ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Craig on 11 April 2015, 18:20:46
+15 C and sunny! I can't believe it! The snow's almost gone! I even saw a crocus in bloom and the daffodils are pushing up. Time to get out the bike.  :) :) :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 11 April 2015, 18:26:24
Cooling down here.
Next week going on a months holiday to Hawaii to warm up.   :D
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: AvastMH on 11 April 2015, 19:06:57
Source of puzzling cosmic signals found - in the kitchen (https://www.sciencenews.org/article/source-puzzling-cosmic-signals-found-kitchen)
 ;D




link repaired   ;)

Cor! That's me done with opening the door without stopping it first. 1) I don't fancy being fried and 2) I don't cook enough for Martian visitors to come to dinner  :o ::) ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: AvastMH on 11 April 2015, 19:09:47
Cooling down here.
Next week going on a months holiday to Hawaii to warm up.   :D

Stuart - just head up here - it's been scorching the last few days. Really needed the old sun tan lotion!  Then again, compared to Hawaii, we don't do much in the way of grass skirts in Kidlington. ::) ;D
(Have fun!)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 11 April 2015, 19:31:26
Thanks Joan.
Glad to hear you have had some good weather for a change and so early in the season.

Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Randi on 13 April 2015, 02:28:24
Pygmy goats race in Oxford Cambridge Goat Race (http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-london-32264655)

(http://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/660/media/images/82255000/jpg/_82255426_82250447.jpg)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 13 April 2015, 03:06:54
Pygmy goats race in Oxford Cambridge Goat Race (http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-london-32264655)

(http://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/660/media/images/82255000/jpg/_82255426_82250447.jpg)

 :o
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: AvastMH on 13 April 2015, 07:09:20
 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Fantastic!  Strangely enough the Univ website didn't feature this (I wonder why?  ::) ) which is a great pity. Did Cambridge win I wonder? They'd need a compensation prize after getting such a comprehensive thrashing on Saturday.  :o ( ;D )

OH! just read the article...5 out of 5 races won for the Dark Blues. (hehehehehe!)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Craig on 13 April 2015, 13:10:26
That must have got Cambridge's goat  ;D  (sorry about that  :D).
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: AvastMH on 13 April 2015, 13:53:50
 ;D Nice one Craig!
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Hanibal94 on 13 April 2015, 14:14:06
Quit acting the goat, Craig!
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Randi on 13 April 2015, 15:19:51
Don't worry, Craig.
Hanibal94 is just kidding.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Randi on 13 April 2015, 15:21:40
Evidence of liquid water found on Mars
Curiosity's landing site of Gale Crater was once home to a lake  (http://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-32287609)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: AvastMH on 13 April 2015, 15:37:11
Don't worry, Craig.
Hanibal94 is just kidding.

Groooooooooan  ;) ;D ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Dean on 13 April 2015, 16:46:50
Don't worry, Craig.
Hanibal94 is just kidding.

Randi, That was just plain  Baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaad!!  ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Craig on 13 April 2015, 17:13:42
Don't worry, Craig.
Hanibal94 is just kidding.

Thanks, Randi. I was feeling a bit sheepish about it.  :D  Perhaps I can volunteer for ship's mascot.  ;D

Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Randi on 13 April 2015, 17:37:38
Or ewe could volunteer to help them ram their way through the ice ;D

I fear someone will lambast us if we keep this going much longer.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Michael on 13 April 2015, 19:01:47
Or ewe could volunteer to help them ram their way through the ice ;D

I fear someone will lambast us if we keep this going much longer.

You people goatta stop this silliness!  >:(   ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 14 April 2015, 01:48:43
The US Google Doodle today is fun - 155th anniversary of the Pony express.  And they made it a game.  :)
https://www.google.com/doodles/155th-anniversary-of-the-pony-express


Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Hanibal94 on 14 April 2015, 01:54:53
The US Google Doodle today is fun - 155th anniversary of the Pony express.  And they made it a game.  :)
https://www.google.com/doodles/155th-anniversary-of-the-pony-express

I got 79 out of 100 on my first try. Some of it was a challenge even for me!
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: AvastMH on 14 April 2015, 08:37:19
 I got 16 pieces of mail- but I got lots of cactus spines, several sore heads, a few lasso burns, and one flump of snow...BEAT THAT! yessssssss :P  ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 14 April 2015, 08:44:18
 ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Helen J on 14 April 2015, 12:09:50
A grand total of 5, plus lots of everything else - lassooed, thrown into cacti, barrels of water, thrown off, and a lot of snow until I learnt to recognize the warning signs.  I'm just not fast enough!
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: AvastMH on 14 April 2015, 15:49:29
Know what you mean Helen. My horse was hoarse with telling me off when I rode into every fence, rock, tree and pond  ::)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Helen J on 15 April 2015, 10:07:22
I'm surprised the horse let me back on again after the way I treated it!
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: AvastMH on 15 April 2015, 16:00:24
 ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: JamesAPrattIII on 15 April 2015, 18:29:39
In reply 9982 about the schoolboy sailors. I believe a number of them were killed when the armored cruisers Aboukir, Cressy and Hogue were sunk by the German submarine U9. Ten were assigned to the HMS Monmouth but they were transferred off St Vincent to the HMS Carnarvon one of the ships we did the logs of. Lucky for them the Monmouth was sunk with all hands in the battle of Coronel. One of the boys won the DSC at age 15 during the Anzac landings. making him the youngest recipient of this award. I understand right after 9/11 a warship of the RN was sent to join the US Navy for operations against Afganistan had a 16 year old female sailor on board. They offered to send her home but she refused.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 15 April 2015, 19:58:57
There is nothing at all wrong with the courage and patriotism of the young, male or female.  It just hurts us a little more when they are killed.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: studentforever on 16 April 2015, 01:07:45
At least one boy sailor won the VC, in his case at the Battle of Jutland. His memorial is in Chester Cathedral.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Cornwell
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: AvastMH on 16 April 2015, 05:28:17
What an amazing story. And great words on his monument. But so sad to have so little time in this world.  :'(
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Randi on 19 April 2015, 05:02:50
I split off Hermione - Replica 18th Century French frigate (http://forum.oldweather.org/index.php?topic=4340.0) so we can keep track of it ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Randi on 19 April 2015, 05:26:06
Breathing poison in the world's most polluted city (http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-32352722)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: AvastMH on 19 April 2015, 07:56:49
Oh good grief - reminds me of Middlesborough years ago when they tolerated dirty on the basis of 'where's there's muck there's brass'. But even Redcar wasn't as bad as Delhi!
Hope they get sorted out - soon  :o
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 19 April 2015, 08:33:09
Now that is something that is going to absolutely kill tourism.  What horror for the residents.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Caro on 22 April 2015, 10:02:22
Happy birthday Janet, from the wandering moderator.  ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Randi on 22 April 2015, 10:17:10
Happy Birthday
Janet


(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_r82TVNoNtTc/TF7EJs8D16I/AAAAAAAABrY/o1ALB63DwNU/s1600/birthday+cat.JPG)


You'd better hurry if you want some cake ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: propriome on 22 April 2015, 10:27:49
:D :D Happy birthday Janet ! :D :D
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Craig on 22 April 2015, 10:34:40
All the best, Janet!
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 22 April 2015, 11:50:39
Thank you all - Randi, we will just have to cut the kitty his own (nibbled on) slice. 
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Hanibal94 on 22 April 2015, 12:01:41
Have a great birthday, Janet!
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 22 April 2015, 12:27:16
Also,

Happy Earth Day, Everyone!

(http://www.bdtrends.com/images/news/20140331/large/free-earth-day-animated-clip-art-1.jpg)

Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Helen J on 22 April 2015, 12:33:03
Happy birthday, Janet - hope you enjoy the cake and the earth (and any cats which may be around)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Michael on 22 April 2015, 12:35:37

Happy Birthday to you,
Happy Birthday to you,
Happy Birthday dear Janet....
Happy Birthday to you!!!!
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: studentforever on 22 April 2015, 12:46:17
Happy Birthday Janet
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: AvastMH on 22 April 2015, 13:49:34
Happy Birthday Janet!  :D :D :D

Here's something for the top of your birthday cat cake  ;D

(http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/640x480q90/538/JbfWAF.jpg)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: AvastMH on 22 April 2015, 15:15:14
I've subjected myself to the scrutiny of Google's Earth Day Quiz and am proud daunted to report that I came out as :

"You're a mantis shrimp! Mysterious and beautiful, you?re not afraid to use your powerful claws to attack, stun and dismember prey"

 ::) ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Hanibal94 on 22 April 2015, 15:17:56
I am somewhat confused because I got this:

"You're a pangolin!The practical sort, you know just when to curl up into a ball to thwart predators."

Umm... okay?
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 22 April 2015, 15:31:36
So did I, Hanibal - beats a wooly mammoth any day.  According to Wiki, they are unique mammals who live quiet lives in the warm tropics.  :)

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/fe/Tree_Pangolin.JPG)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: AvastMH on 22 April 2015, 15:34:59
 ;D  You might be mystified by yours Hanibal - but I'm sticking with the first half of mine, 'mysterious and beautiful'. Yeh!  ;) :D
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: jil on 22 April 2015, 16:40:53
Happy Birthday, Janet (or is that Pangolin?)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Dean on 22 April 2015, 17:11:18
Janet

   Happy Birthday to you,
   Happy Birthday to you,
   Happy Birthday dear Jaaaaaaaaaaaannnnnnnnnnnneeeeeeeeeeetttttttttttttttttttttttttttttt,
   Happy Birthday to you!

Hope it's a happy one and that you get lots of neat presents!
Hope also you get to share with family!
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 22 April 2015, 17:32:47
Thank you all - yes it has been a happy day. :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Michael on 22 April 2015, 19:12:19
So did I, Hanibal - beats a wooly mammoth any day.  According to Wiki, they are unique mammals who live quiet lives in the warm tropics.  :)

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/fe/Tree_Pangolin.JPG)

And guess who's a wooly mammoth!  Hmmmm. However, think how wonderful the world will be when I'm cloned and there's lots more of me to work on OW...   ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 22 April 2015, 19:32:12
I personally deeply respect woolly mammoths.  I just don't want to fit one into my studio apartment.   ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: AvastMH on 23 April 2015, 03:44:44
Citizen Science conference - including 'studying those involved'. London May 11 ish:
http://www.britishecologicalsociety.org/getting-involved/special-interest-groups/citizen-science/

Anyone we know going?
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Thursday Next on 23 April 2015, 15:12:47
Happy Birthday, Janet!

Sorry I am a day late!
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 23 April 2015, 17:04:57
At my age, plus or minus a day doesn't matter much.  Life is more to be enjoyed than scheduled.  Thank you.  :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: jil on 23 April 2015, 17:10:47
On holiday at the moment at Dale Fort Field Centre (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dale_Fort) on a peninsula in Milford Haven. Those who were here for Phase 1 & 2 might have 'seen' it in the logs, although I think they usually just mentioned St. Ann's Head Light at the actual entrance to Milford Haven. Boat trip to Skomer tomorrow, hopefully there will be puffins!
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Hanibal94 on 24 April 2015, 05:08:50
Oh, COME ON!

Just when I had finished typing in the last WR on a 24 WR page, a window popped up asking me to restart the computer to configure some Windows updates - and with the "Restart Now" button highlighted!
So I hit the Enter key before I could stop myself, meaning that instead of adding the WR to the page, I restarted the computer and lost all my progress on a 24 WR page!

(http://static.businessinsider.com/image/52a626436bb3f70905327d8a/image.jpg)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 24 April 2015, 05:41:11
(http://www.smileys4me.com/getsmiley.php?show=243)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Helen J on 24 April 2015, 07:52:58
I really, really hate it when they do that - it's the assumption that nothing can possibly be more important than whatever they want you to do NOW.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: AvastMH on 24 April 2015, 08:01:21
Janet - really cool smiley - love it  8)

Hanibal. Reap your revenge..send them a separate customer query for each and every lost entry (that's about 240 per page isn't it?) OR
just remember that if Jung's Theory of the Communal Subconscious is true, you can simply think them into a tizzy at their end. Serves them right.  >:( ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Hanibal94 on 24 April 2015, 08:22:32
LOVE that smiley, Janet! Thanks for finding it - I totally feel that way sometimes!

And also, I second what Helen said. Same thing for when an antivirus report saying "Your computer is clean. No threats detected" pops up while I'm typing out a WR - that always throws me off track, and I have to close the report, switch back to OW and fix what I missed before going on. If you didn't detect any threats, then DON'T INTERRUPT ME, YOU DUMB THING!
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: studentforever on 24 April 2015, 08:29:20
The one that gets me is when Windows has updated - and it always seems to take ages - and I have started to set up all my workspace. It always seems to be one of the last programs to open and you get a message to restart AGAIN so that it can load the necessary fix to allow it to work with the Windows updates.

It's on occasions like that when I feel sympathy for the bloke who shot his computer.  Not possessing a gun it would be either a bath of water or dropping it off a high structure.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: studentforever on 24 April 2015, 08:34:50
This story puts our gripes with computers into perspective

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-31712158
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: AvastMH on 24 April 2015, 10:12:18
Gallipoli news on the Beeb... http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-32432725
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Randi on 24 April 2015, 13:18:10
From Joan's BBC article: World War One's forgotten Anzacs: The Indigenous Army (http://www.bbc.com/news/world-australia-32281865)
Very moving.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Dean on 24 April 2015, 17:57:15
The one that gets me is when Windows has updated - and it always seems to take ages - and I have started to set up all my workspace. It always seems to be one of the last programs to open and you get a message to restart AGAIN so that it can load the necessary fix to allow it to work with the Windows updates.

It's on occasions like that when I feel sympathy for the bloke who shot his computer.  Not possessing a gun it would be either a bath of water or dropping it off a high structure.

I have my Mac set to only search for updates when I ASK it to. I usually do that at the beginning of the month. If Apple finds something it thinks is 'very important' it asks for permission (Is now a good time to do this?!) BEFORE even attempting to download the data!  One of the reasons 'I'm a Mac, I don't do Windows.'  ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Randi on 25 April 2015, 02:46:50
You can configure Windows to do that too.
I have Windows configured to notify me but not to install.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Hanibal94 on 25 April 2015, 04:07:02
You can configure Windows to do that too.
I have Windows configured to notify me but not to install.

That's how it works with me - but these updates were classified as "Optional", so I couldn't just wait until it was time to shut the PC down and let them install themselves. I had to start it manually.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: AvastMH on 27 April 2015, 16:14:23
Another small interruption from PenguinWatch...catch a load of this! Even the penguins look a little impressed - and they are one tough crowd to please! What a sunset...

(http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/480x360q90/911/WSyxib.jpg)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 27 April 2015, 17:07:46
Gorgeous colors there.  :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 28 April 2015, 08:35:54
There is an opportunity to chart the damage from the Nepal Earthquake for rescuers.  Given the terrain, I'm sure this will give them help.

http://www.tomnod.com/campaign/nepal_earthquake_2015/map/3f6xhy3s
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Thursday Next on 28 April 2015, 15:02:36
There is an opportunity to chart the damage from the Nepal Earthquake for rescuers.  Given the terrain, I'm sure this will give them help.

http://www.tomnod.com/campaign/nepal_earthquake_2015/map/3f6xhy3s

Thanks for posting this link, Janet.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Thursday Next on 28 April 2015, 15:13:47
While trying to bookmark the Tomnod link, it seems that Google Chrome have decided to update how bookmarks work.  :'(
It now seems to want me to "Star" pages rather than bookmark them.  Viewing starred pages presents a bewildering array of pages in no apparent order.  Thankfully it does not seem to have messed up existing bookmarks.  And starring something does seem to add it to the Bookmarks bar, but just at the end - it is not giving me the option of choosing a folder to put it in.  If anyone can work out how to just bookmark pages like I could before, please enlighten me!

Edit: After Googling Google Chrome Bookmarks it seems you can do it from the Tools menu, or by pressing Ctrl+D.  I suppose I will get used to it, but it seems a lot more complicated.  And I have now had to bookmark "Bookmark a Webpage - Chrome Help" and "Manage Bookmarks - Chrome Help" until I've got to grips with this.  Chrome has also set up Auto Folders for me in addition to the ones I have set up for myself.  Like they would know where I want to put stuff!  >:(
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Randi on 28 April 2015, 15:42:54
Happy Firefox user ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 28 April 2015, 15:55:11
I ran into that some time ago, and hate it.  But there are a few work-arounds.

In the dropdown you get when you click the little yellow star (see attached screen cap) whether or not the star is yellow, click "Add to folder" and they will give you a list of all your current folders.  Pick one, or click the little arrow on the right to see any of their subfolders.  Choose where you want it to go.  (Clicking "view all bookmarked items" in that drop down opens the bookmark manager.) 

Open Bookmark Manager, and click the little gear icon in the upper right corner.  Under 'View' check 'List' instead of 'Tiles'.

You see all of the bookmarked sites unorganized only while "all items" in the left sidebar is selected.  Get out of that immediately by selecting one of your folders, which includes BookBar.

Then in the left sidebar, select Bookmarks Bar and select and move any extra sites into their desired folders.

If you want to alphabetize the bookmarks inside any folder, that option is under the gear icon and not in the right-click drop-down.

NOTE:  I totally ignore all the auto-folders they are starting for me, I find them wildly random with none of my preferred organization.  And they do not steal anything out of my created folders, thank goodness.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Michael on 28 April 2015, 19:39:18
Happy Firefox user ;)

Me too!  :) :) :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Hanibal94 on 29 April 2015, 02:59:26
Happy Firefox user ;)

Me too!  :) :) :)

Me three! I've been going through a bunch of annoyances with Chrome - I hate the way the page jumps up and down whenever you backtab, and I didn't like having to see my most-frequently-visited sites whenever I opened a new tab.
But this bookmark problem is the last straw - I'm switching over to Firefox now, both at home and at work.
I have imported my bookmarks and browser history from Chrome, and deleted everything on that - history, cookies, the whole lot.
I'm keeping it as a backup browser just in case, but I do not intend to use it again anytime soon.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Caro on 29 April 2015, 03:17:20
Me four. :) Morning all. Forecast top of 11C, with rain. Spring, huh?
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: AvastMH on 29 April 2015, 12:50:13
me five. That jumpy thing that you mentioned Hanibal - did my head in completely.

I had trouble with Firefox a few months back but now it seems good. Though I've noticed, but perhaps this is just the 'Patterson Effect', that the drop down boxes sometimes include the stuff that should be in another box ( and NO it's not me putting the wrong stuff in the wrong box  :o ;D )
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Hanibal94 on 29 April 2015, 13:19:01
I'm getting used to Firefox, but it's going well - I imported all my Chrome bookmarks, and the most important of my extensions.
One difference I noticed at once is that if you scroll up and down, the screen flows instead of jumping like Chrome.
But it's no big deal. I can manage fine.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Thursday Next on 29 April 2015, 14:57:43
I am prepared to forgive Chrome quite a lot because I find Sheen so useful!  I really can't go back to Firefox unless there is an equivalent app.  But it is so annoying when something that was working fine is messed up!  The Auto Folders might be good for a laugh, and maybe they work OK for people who mainly use the internet for social media and shopping.  But I understand that Chrome is used quite extensively by businesses and is the most popular after IE.  I wouldn't think these changes would work very well for these users.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Randi on 29 April 2015, 15:33:16
Hopefully they won't ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 29 April 2015, 17:59:42
As far as I'm concerned, the auto-folders are invisible.  I refuse to use them, and they never intrude on my created folders.  I don't care what Google thinks they should do.

And I have figured out now how to make the bookmarks manager to work for me, same as the old one.  So I'm back being comfortable.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Dean on 29 April 2015, 19:36:39
I'm sticking with Safari! (They do make one for PC's also.)

I use Chrome only for some of the video links that my older version of Safari won't load.

(To 'upgrade' Safari to a newer version would require an OS update which would 'kill' a couple programs I have much time and effort invested in and which I volunteer on the Help Desk for.)  :P
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Craig on 30 April 2015, 11:28:23
Do they offer a pith hat and mosquito netting with this browser, Dean?  ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: AvastMH on 30 April 2015, 11:58:35
 ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Randi on 30 April 2015, 12:40:37
 ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Dean on 30 April 2015, 19:42:58
Nope! Just a way to search the Internet - the Serengeti - any maybe find a few mosquitos along the way!    8)

I could make several comments about pith helmets but since this is a family spot.............. :o
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 30 April 2015, 23:24:26
Here's an interesting animated graphic from NASA.  I'm assuming we've been adding to this data, especially the last topic.  :)

Climate Time Machine (http://climate.nasa.gov/interactives/climate-time-machine) - This series of visualizations shows how some of Earth's key climate indicators are changing over time.

the annual Arctic sea ice minimum from 1979 to 2014.
sea level rise
changes in the concentration and distribution of carbon dioxide from 2002-2009
changing global surface temperatures from 1884 to 2014
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Michael on 01 May 2015, 13:48:18
That graphic is wonderful for putting all those equations and numbers into something dramatic and easily understood. Almost as good as throwing a snowball in the U.S.  Senate.  :'(
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 01 May 2015, 14:27:06
The US Congress - both houses - are not in my good books right now.  But they might be able to understand this.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Dean on 01 May 2015, 19:28:37
I still insist that the opposite of PROgress is CONgress!!!!!!! ::)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 01 May 2015, 19:44:07
I sincerely wish I could disagree, but I can't.  :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Hanibal94 on 01 May 2015, 20:16:25
If a tree falls in the forest and there's no one around and it hits a Congressman... does anyone care?
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 01 May 2015, 20:36:37
 ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: AvastMH on 02 May 2015, 05:26:19
 ;D ;D ;D

(got any trees to throw at the UK elections? PLEEEEEEASE...  ::) )
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: studentforever on 02 May 2015, 08:14:59
Thank your lucky stars you aren't in Scotland - we've only just got over the Referendum AND I think we've got Holyrood next year.

I don't know how the Americans cope with Presidential's every 4 years and then the mid-term.  Do they ever get respite from campaigning.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Helen J on 02 May 2015, 09:55:50
;D ;D ;D

(got any trees to throw at the UK elections? PLEEEEEEASE...  ::) )


Amen, amen!   :D
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 02 May 2015, 10:33:51
I don't know how the Americans cope with Presidential's every 4 years and then the mid-term.  Do they ever get respite from campaigning.

Unfortunately, no.  Used to be, all the national level campaigning started only a year before the 4 year election, mid-term elections never involved anyone above the state level.  It has badly overgrown since then.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Michael on 02 May 2015, 13:24:54
I still insist that the opposite of PROgress is CONgress!!!!!!! ::)

I suppose one could always EGRESS, or do I digress?   ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Thursday Next on 02 May 2015, 13:46:15
;D ;D ;D

(got any trees to throw at the UK elections? PLEEEEEEASE...  ::) )


Amen, amen!   :D

At least we have a small respite today, in the shape of the Royal baby!
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: AvastMH on 02 May 2015, 14:15:57
Has the next incumbent of the royal list arrived? I should pay more tax now in support....  ::)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Thursday Next on 02 May 2015, 14:24:27
Yes, indeed - Prince Harry's just been shunted back to 5th in line.  It's a girl, by the way.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: AvastMH on 02 May 2015, 14:49:27
Oh! (I'm sure harry won't care at all  ;) )
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Hanibal94 on 02 May 2015, 15:30:25
;D ;D ;D

(got any trees to throw at the UK elections? PLEEEEEEASE...  ::) )

How about some Ents? Would that help?
Just make sure to return them by summer 2016 so that we Americans have them for the presidential election!
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Danny252 on 02 May 2015, 15:51:10
Hello from an annoyingly cloudy La Silla Observatory (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/La_Silla_Observatory), in Chile! Today's weather:

HourWindForceBarom.Dry Bulb (F)Wet Bulb (F)WeatherCloudsCoverage
5pmNNE422.675240bcCir9

I think I win with my pressure reading ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Caro on 02 May 2015, 16:00:34
You win, Danny.  :o
I hope the clouds break for you.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: AvastMH on 02 May 2015, 16:03:08
;D ;D ;D

(got any trees to throw at the UK elections? PLEEEEEEASE...  ::) )

How about some Ents? Would that help?
Just make sure to return them by summer 2016 so that we Americans have them for the presidential election!

Consider it a done deal!  ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: AvastMH on 02 May 2015, 16:04:17
Hello from an annoyingly cloudy La Silla Observatory (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/La_Silla_Observatory), in Chile! Today's weather:

HourWindForceBarom.Dry Bulb (F)Wet Bulb (F)WeatherCloudsCoverage
5pmNNE422.675240bcCir9

I think I win with my pressure reading ;)

22.67 - that IS impressive! Don't get too light-headed!
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 02 May 2015, 16:22:27
You've got to watch all those dangerous lows.
And ents sound like a superb idea to break up the usual election mess.  I'm looking forward to seeing them in action.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Randi on 02 May 2015, 17:24:26
Orcs might be more appropriate.



Hope you get clear skies, Danny!
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Hanibal94 on 02 May 2015, 17:44:19
Orcs might be more appropriate.

I don't think so. They smell.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: jil on 03 May 2015, 02:51:51
Hello from an annoyingly cloudy La Silla Observatory (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/La_Silla_Observatory), in Chile! Today's weather:

HourWindForceBarom.Dry Bulb (F)Wet Bulb (F)WeatherCloudsCoverage
5pmNNE422.675240bcCir9

I think I win with my pressure reading ;)
8) Hope the clouds are clearing!
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Danny252 on 03 May 2015, 20:45:14
Hello from an annoyingly cloudy La Silla Observatory (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/La_Silla_Observatory), in Chile! Today's weather:

HourWindForceBarom.Dry Bulb (F)Wet Bulb (F)WeatherCloudsCoverage
5pmNNE422.675240bcCir9

I think I win with my pressure reading ;)
8) Hope the clouds are clearing!

They cleared about 2am local time yesterday - although before that I was having great fun watching how the weather system off the coast, the humidity, and the pressure were interacting to form clouds right above us!
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Hanibal94 on 04 May 2015, 09:24:27
Here's something cool I heard about: The USGS map collection just got a lot easier to use.

http://www.wired.com/2015/05/amazing-collection-historical-maps-just-got-easier-see/

I bet a lot of our members would be interested in this.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 04 May 2015, 10:50:33
Here's something cool I heard about: The USGS map collection just got a lot easier to use.

http://www.wired.com/2015/05/amazing-collection-historical-maps-just-got-easier-see/

I bet a lot of our members would be interested in this.

I'll copy this post into the EO, Hanibal.  Thanks.

Note: old maps are mostly within the lower 48 states on this.  Marine charts are still held by NOAA's Coast Survey historical collection (http://historicalcharts.noaa.gov/historicals/search).
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Randi on 06 May 2015, 13:11:39
(http://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/660/media/images/82789000/jpg/_82789411_tuvulu3_cut.jpg)

An artwork that gets your feet wet is about to be unveiled in Venice at the 56th International Biennale.
It's the national pavilion of the tiny Pacific nation of Tuvalu, which will be one of the first places in the world to disappear if sea levels continue to rise.
(http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-32598360)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 06 May 2015, 13:18:43
That should frighten all of us bigger nations who have cities at sea level - potent warnings.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Craig on 06 May 2015, 14:57:27
It should.  :(
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Kevin on 06 May 2015, 16:08:19
Yep, pretty much.  http://gcaptain.com/oceans-wrath-summed-up-in-four-epic-minutes-video/
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 06 May 2015, 23:30:40
Hello from an annoyingly cloudy La Silla Observatory (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/La_Silla_Observatory), in Chile! Today's weather:

HourWindForceBarom.Dry Bulb (F)Wet Bulb (F)WeatherCloudsCoverage
Newcastle Brown Beer bottles had RUST around the cap rim.

5pmNNE422.675240bcCir9

I think I win with my pressure reading ;)
8) Hope the clouds are clearing!

They cleared about 2am local time yesterday - although before that I was having great fun watching how the weather system off the coast, the humidity, and the pressure were interacting to form clouds right above us!

I left sydney in a 4mtr mean wave height just before they closed the harbour and left three cruise ships out at sea for a few days.
Arrived in Wellington, NZ to an earth tremour.
Does that rate a mention on the weather stakes?
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 06 May 2015, 23:45:21
Do you find a little black cloud hovering over your head?  If not, then it is just your luck.  :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: jil on 07 May 2015, 02:36:16
I left sydney in a 4mtr mean wave height just before they closed the harbour and left three cruise ships out at sea for a few days.
Arrived in Wellington, NZ to an earth tremour.
Does that rate a mention on the weather stakes?
Sounds like an eventful trip - have fun!
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: JamesAPrattIII on 07 May 2015, 18:08:50
Awhile back there was a reply about midshipmen lost when HMS Goliath was sunk well one of the Midshipmen survived and wrote a book about his experiences which is on archive.org "From Dartmouth to the Dardennelles".
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Danny252 on 09 May 2015, 01:59:53
I left sydney in a 4mtr mean wave height just before they closed the harbour and left three cruise ships out at sea for a few days.
Arrived in Wellington, NZ to an earth tremour.
Does that rate a mention on the weather stakes?

A little more exciting! However, last night our wind force was a definite "8" - it's fun walking around in that...
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 09 May 2015, 02:02:22
Danny, i know just what your saying.  ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Hanibal94 on 10 May 2015, 16:17:53
Happy Mother's Day!


(https://derpicdn.net/img/2013/5/11/321866/full.png)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: jil on 11 May 2015, 04:03:50
BBC Radio 4's Book of the Week (http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b05tkllh) for this week looks interesting. The Weather Experiment (http://www.randomhouse.co.uk/editions/the-weather-experiment/9781448155972) by Peter Moore, about the history of meterorology.

The first part should be available on iplayer later today.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: AvastMH on 11 May 2015, 09:00:57
Awwww- nice one Hanibal!  We had mom's day over here a few weeks back. Hope you gave your mum a big hug  :D
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Thursday Next on 11 May 2015, 14:40:13
BBC Radio 4's Book of the Week (http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b05tkllh) for this week looks interesting. The Weather Experiment (http://www.randomhouse.co.uk/editions/the-weather-experiment/9781448155972) by Peter Moore, about the history of meterorology.

The first part should be available on iplayer later today.

Yes, I'm looking forward to this - "Book of the Week" (the 12.30am repeat) is part of my regular going-to-bed routine.  Should segue nicely into the Shipping Forecast.  8)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Hanibal94 on 12 May 2015, 14:28:41
Awwww- nice one Hanibal!  We had mom's day over here a few weeks back. Hope you gave your mum a big hug  :D

I did, yes - and that's not all.
Last year, I used the picture above to make her a sweet card for her 50th birthday,and she really liked it.
So for this year, I made another one:

Quote
To the one who gives me hope
when all seems lost.


(http://fc08.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2012/134/e/4/some_days____by_fillyfooler-d4zsvjm.jpg)

I love you, Mom.
Happy Mother's Day.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Randi on 12 May 2015, 14:43:36
Wonderful!
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 12 May 2015, 15:31:59
Sounds like you are lucky in your mom, and she is lucky to have you.  :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Michael on 12 May 2015, 15:56:42
Sounds like you are lucky in your mom, and she is lucky to have you.  :)

As are we!!!!
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: AvastMH on 12 May 2015, 18:58:49
Sounds like you are lucky in your mom, and she is lucky to have you.  :)

As are we!!!!

And so say I!  :) :) :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Hanibal94 on 13 May 2015, 09:24:06
Sounds like you are lucky in your mom, and she is lucky to have you.  :)

YES.

A major problem for many young people on the autistic spectrum is that their parents don't understand autism.
So these kids don't get the help they need, which just makes the whole situation worse.
But in my case, my mom went and read a bunch of books and newspaper articles and stuff on autism and Asperger Syndrome. She was able to figure out my problems, and help me overcome them - a process that is still ongoing, because this is something that cannot be cured.
Gotta admit, when I look back at my past self and some of the horrible ways I acted at the time, I feel totally ashamed. I have no idea how Mom managed to put up with it all.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 13 May 2015, 10:05:27
She managed because she is a Mom.

Doesn't mean you don't owe her a lifetime of thanks.  :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: studentforever on 13 May 2015, 11:58:06
Part of the reward is seeing you grow into someone who has so much more insight into his own behaviour and its effect on others including her.  The fact that you care enough to create a card for her and that you realise it will give her pleasure I'm sure also gives her a sense of achievement.  You are you, and you are as you are, but that doesn't mean you can't grow into someone who is much easier to live with.

But you and your mother are proof that, although autism is a state of being, the way this is managed can achieve very positive results for you, her, and the rest of society.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Randi on 13 May 2015, 12:47:18
Beautifully put, Rosemary.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Hanibal94 on 13 May 2015, 12:50:31
Doesn't mean you don't owe her a lifetime of thanks.  :)

Too true!

Part of the reward is seeing you grow into someone who has so much more insight into his own behaviour and its effect on others including her.  The fact that you care enough to create a card for her and that you realise it will give her pleasure I'm sure also gives her a sense of achievement.  You are you, and you are as you are, but that doesn't mean you can't grow into someone who is much easier to live with.

But you and your mother are proof that, although autism is a state of being, the way this is managed can achieve very positive results for you, her, and the rest of society.

Wow... that was deep. Thanks Rosemary - reading those words made me feel warm inside.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 13 May 2015, 13:07:42
I agree with Rosemary - you have become a very nice man. 8)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: AvastMH on 13 May 2015, 14:36:35
I agree with Rosemary - you have become a very nice man. 8)

And I'll second that, very happily  :D
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Helen J on 13 May 2015, 14:37:23
And I'm in on thirding it ....   :D
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Michael on 13 May 2015, 15:39:35
Me too!!
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 14 May 2015, 15:13:07
FIY
Tomnod has just received new images taken after the latest earthquake in Nepal.  The search for damaged areas needs to start from scratch again.

http://www.tomnod.com/campaign/nepal_earthquake_2015/map/3m5x8y52
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: AvastMH on 14 May 2015, 17:23:55
oh my goodness me - I never heard of Tomnod before - that's a powerfully wonderful thing  :o :-*
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 14 May 2015, 17:30:04
I like getting email for when they are starting a new search, it feels useful.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 15 May 2015, 09:18:48
http://www.nasa.gov/press-release/nasa-study-shows-antarctica-s-larsen-b-ice-shelf-nearing-its-final-act#
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: AvastMH on 15 May 2015, 13:54:08
oh dear that's just so depressing...  :( :( :'(
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Craig on 15 May 2015, 17:05:50
Not a good time to buy property in Florida.  :(
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Caro on 17 May 2015, 04:32:54
Morning all and a BIG happy birthday to DJ.  ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Randi on 17 May 2015, 04:58:05
Happy Birthday
DJ


(http://rlv.zcache.co.uk/ham_radio_man_cave_birthday_card_customize_it-r788fa063331e4a1aa9176bd0b7404933_xvuak_8byvr_324.jpg)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 17 May 2015, 05:45:46
Happy Birthday, DJ!

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-R8Xavmyqwas/VHtVrBkVVEI/AAAAAAAABnk/O7_i7S0YBGU/w687-h456-no/Happy_Birthday_Cake.jpg)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: AvastMH on 17 May 2015, 06:47:20
Happy Birthday DJ!!!

(http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/640x480q90/538/JvS6pf.jpg) (https://imageshack.com/i/eyJvS6pfj)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Dean on 17 May 2015, 07:49:53
Happy Birthday, DJ!!
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Randi on 17 May 2015, 07:52:18
 ::) ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Michael on 17 May 2015, 11:00:10
Happy Birthday, DJ, from me, too.!!!
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Hanibal94 on 17 May 2015, 11:11:40
And from me too!

Please do drop in sometime! It's a pity you aren't around nearly as much as in the past!
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Randi on 17 May 2015, 13:45:51
Trapping humidity out of fog in Chile (http://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-32515558)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Craig on 17 May 2015, 14:19:04
Neat! I have read about that sort of thing before in Africa but this is has more potential because of the unlimited sea water.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: DJ_59 on 18 May 2015, 02:28:33

Thanks for the cool birthday wishes.  :)  I appreciate that.

Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 21 May 2015, 01:15:56
For those interested in trees then this pic may be for you.

After 32 days and stitching together 126 separate photos, we are left with this breathtaking portrait of The President.
"The President" is one of those trees. The giant sequoia stands 247 feet tall, measures 45,000 cubic feet in volume, and is an estimated 3,200 years old.
The trunk is 27 feet wide and the his mighty branches hold 2 billion needles, the most of any tree on the planet.
On top of that, he still adds one cubic meter of wood per year - making him one of the fastest growing trees in the world.

(http://toco.distractify.com/postimage/201409/41/de19747bcbd79ad457971fa173f4952e_970x.jpg)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: studentforever on 21 May 2015, 01:54:46
Whew!!
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: jil on 21 May 2015, 03:31:48
Whew!!
;D

Great photo of an amazing tree!
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 21 May 2015, 06:33:05
Whew!!
;D

Great photo of an amazing tree!

Oh, yes.  :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: studentforever on 21 May 2015, 11:03:56
WW2 not WW1 but a civilian Navy collaboration which actually worked.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-32821805
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Randi on 21 May 2015, 12:46:52
Thanks!
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Caro on 21 May 2015, 12:58:05
It's wonderful to see those 'little ships' setting out to sea again.  :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Craig on 21 May 2015, 13:22:21
Some of you may have already read about this interview with Prof Dame Julia Slingo, the chief scientist at the Met Office but here it is in case you haven't.

http://www.carbonbrief.org/blog/2015/05/the-carbon-brief-interview-prof-dame-julia-slingo-obe/?utm_source=Weekly+Carbon+Briefing&utm_campaign=35afe37dcf-Carbon_Brief_Weekly_230415&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_3ff5ea836a-35afe37dcf-303420325

Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: studentforever on 21 May 2015, 14:30:40
She did mention 'historical data' as being useful and an active field of interest for the Met Office so even if we didn't get a public mention we can give ourselves a pat on the back.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 21 May 2015, 17:44:44
One for Randi
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Randi on 21 May 2015, 17:52:49
 ;D - I've seen that one ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 21 May 2015, 18:26:07
First time I have seen one of these. (at Pearl Harbor)
Pity it was in a reflective plastic case.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 21 May 2015, 19:20:35
Interesting, not only has the ship image been updated over the 18 years between the 2 certificates, but the verbosity is greatly reduced.  :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Danny252 on 22 May 2015, 07:00:55
Today is the 100th anniversary of the Quintinshill rail disaster, the deadliest rail accident in UK history. Slack working practises resulted in local passenger train being hit by two express trains, one a fully loaded troop train, with a total of three passenger trains and two goods trains being destroyed. The disaster resulted in approximately 226 deaths (the number is uncertain due to the severity of the accident).

The National Archives have an article on the incident, which also discusses the rather strange public reaction when those involved were given prison sentences: http://blog.nationalarchives.gov.uk/blog/centenary-quintinshill-rail-disaster/
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: propriome on 22 May 2015, 07:54:53
:o
A very interesting read Danny, thanks for sharing it!
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Randi on 22 May 2015, 08:03:35
Interesting indeed.
Perhaps after 31 similar accidents in 12.5 years the Board of Trade decided that they had to do something since the railways hadn't :-\
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Caro on 22 May 2015, 09:44:49
A program about the Quintinshill crash is available on the Beeb's iPlayer:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b05vqx7v/britains-deadliest-rail-disaster-quintinshill
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: AvastMH on 22 May 2015, 15:17:38
It is a disgrace that those in power can turn a blind eye to all the warnings that occur, and remain at large whilst those left toiling under poor direction and review pay the heaviest price.  Whomever was responsible for allowing bad practices to exist should surely have received the highest penalty? I hope those people understood their guilt. 
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: jil on 22 May 2015, 18:17:29
A program about the Quintinshill crash is available on the Beeb's iPlayer:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b05vqx7v/britains-deadliest-rail-disaster-quintinshill
I watched it last night, it's very interesting.

They showed a similar carriage to the ones that would have been used by the troop train - out-dated at the time but brought back into use as they needed extra rolling stock to transport all the troops. It was mostly wooden construction and had massive gas canisters strapped under the carriage to provide the lighting, no wonder the fire was so terrible.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Danny252 on 23 May 2015, 13:41:05
Interesting indeed.
Perhaps after 31 similar accidents in 12.5 years the Board of Trade decided that they had to do something since the railways hadn't :-\

It was even worse in the 19th century - it took a long time to convince railways that just blindly sending trains one after the other, after waiting a suitable time interval, was not a good way to avoid trains running into each other!
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Randi on 24 May 2015, 09:00:06
The great 'Mars bake-off' begins (http://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-32847369)
Quote
Public webcams mean you'll be able to follow the assembly of the Mars rover from anywhere in the world
Neat idea!
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Randi on 24 May 2015, 17:02:16
Just to change the subject... I have seen this at least half a dozen times on the Concord in the last month or so of ship time:

Sent whale boat ashore for sand.

Sometimes they have to send the crew armed because of hostilities, so the sand is important. Why are they getting sand every few days? Are they making Japanese sand gardens to help with PTSD? Bulking up the morning oatmeal to stretch out supplies?  ;)

Curious mind needs to know...

I am reading Two Years Before the Mast, and they use sand when holystoning the deck - quote under Holystone in the OWpedia (http://forum.oldweather.org/index.php?topic=3209.msg52138#msg52138). The Wiki article also mentions the use of sand and water with the holystone.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 24 May 2015, 17:12:21
Well Holy doly Randi I think you have the answer.    ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 24 May 2015, 18:19:18
Interesting, first Earthquake I have heard of in the UK, (mind you, I have been away for 43 yrs)

http://www.wired.co.uk/news/archive/2015-05/22/kent-earthquake-2015-quiz (http://www.wired.co.uk/news/archive/2015-05/22/kent-earthquake-2015-quiz)

Take the quiz for interesting info.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Hanibal94 on 24 May 2015, 18:33:34
There was an earthquake right where I live about a month ago - and I felt it!

(The following was in German, I ran it through Google translate and corrected some stuff, but not all of it)
Quote
Leipzig. One of the strongest earthquakes in eastern Germany for several decades has shaken the region Halle-Leipzig on Thursday. By international standards, it was with a thickness from 3.3 to 3.6. Damage was not initially known. In Merseburg Castle, the seat of the administration of the Saale circle, it wobbled slightly, reported the Office. In Leipzig computers and glasses in the cupboard vibrated according to the "Leipziger Volkszeitung" (online edition). The quake was felt also in Thuringia.

The State Agency for Geology and Mining Saxony-Anhalt reported a vibration of thickness 3.6 around 8:38 o'clock. It was one of the strongest earthquakes in recent decades in East Germany. The epicenter was located about 15 kilometers southeast of Halle, the quake center in a depth of about 22 kilometers. The region lies near the tectonic fault zone Leipzig-Regensburg.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 25 May 2015, 00:35:11
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-dVx8AiWukwA/VWIA7rhPuMI/AAAAAAAACRg/XQNKkDh2Ldk/w537-h160-no/Memorial%2BDay%2B1.JPG)
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Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Caro on 25 May 2015, 03:28:04
Lest we forget.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Hanibal94 on 25 May 2015, 04:16:10
Amen.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: studentforever on 25 May 2015, 06:01:33
It seems that some parts of the US have extreme weather. Hope all our US transcribers are safe and that the emergency services manage to rescue the people affected by the floods.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-32867226
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 25 May 2015, 08:48:37
So far, it has been a miserable year for the south and the west.  In different ways.  Thank you.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: AvastMH on 25 May 2015, 14:43:52
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I say 'amen' to that too  :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: AvastMH on 28 May 2015, 14:19:33
Please - can anyone point me to a short discussion (but hot) we had about a video of a lecturer talking about the virtues of OldWeather Forum compared to problems that arose with War Diaries (she referred to 'faux historians')

Thanks so much,
Joan
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Craig on 28 May 2015, 14:31:15
this one, Joan? I searched for "faux"

DAILY ZOONIVERSE: New Planet - PH3 c (http://daily.zooniverse.org/2015/01/05/phvii/)

Great: 'missed by computer algorithms but ... easy to find for human eyes'.  ;D

This so proves the point that a diligent human eye and brain can still leave computers standing...pah!  ;D  (Oh - did I hear someone mention 'faux historians?  :-\ ::) )
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Randi on 28 May 2015, 14:37:00
Is this what you were thinking about?
http://forum.oldweather.org/index.php?topic=23.msg105560#msg105560

On rereading your question, probably not :-[
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: AvastMH on 28 May 2015, 14:48:18
Sorry - should have said - I found that one, Craig - it's where I allude to that longer discussion.
Thanks Randi - but that's from Paula Goodale's Datum Collector's Weather day in Sheffield.

I have a feeling that it was late November 2014, clearly before 6th January 2015.
Perhaps it was taken down  :(

And I think it might originally have been in OW in the News.

FOUND IT!!! YEEEEEHA
http://ihrdighist.blogs.sas.ac.uk/2014/12/01/citizen-history-and-its-discontents-postscript/

Thanks folks! :-* :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Randi on 28 May 2015, 15:03:09
I don't remember any discussion like that :-\
Could it have been via PMs/emails or in the Editorial Office?
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 28 May 2015, 15:13:27
Quote
Please - can anyone point me to a short discussion (but hot) we had about a video of a lecturer talking about the virtues of OldWeather Forum compared to problems that arose with War Diaries (she referred to 'faux historians')

I remember the discussion and the recording, but I'm on my way out right now, I'll try to find it later. 
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: jil on 28 May 2015, 15:29:22
I don't remember any discussion like that :-\
Could it have been via PMs/emails or in the Editorial Office?
It was in the Editorial Office
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Thursday Next on 28 May 2015, 15:32:09
It was indeed in the Editorial Office and I've located it, but the link will presumably be inaccessible to many readers here, so I will PM Joan with it!
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 28 May 2015, 17:04:46
Well, you have the recording that started the discussion, so I'll retire gladly from the hunt.  :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: AvastMH on 28 May 2015, 17:33:46
thanks so much everyone, especially Thursday Next (got your PM).  Silly me not thinking to look in the Edit Suite.  ::) ::) :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 28 May 2015, 22:32:19
I've received an email from a gentleman named Steve, who is looking for a tsunami record off the coast of Queensland, Australia, in 1918.  He is not a member here, but will be reading any responses.  Does anyone remember which ships were down under that year?

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Thursday, May 28, 2015 8:34 AM (Chicago time)
Dear  Team,
Do you have any ships off the Queensland coast June 7th 1918?
Cheers Steve

Thursday, 5/28/2015 10:03 AM
don?t know which ship was where around Australia.  The best that I can do is do point to the list of ships by ?by FLEETS, STATIONS, CAMPAIGNS etc.? on our ROYAL NAVY LOG BOOKS Index page.  I can tell you that 3 of our ships are from the Royal Australian Navy - Sydney (RAN), Una (RAN), and Warrego (RAN).  I hope this helps.
Might I ask why you are interested? 
Take care, Janet

Thursday, May 28, 2015 10:23 AM
There was a large earthquake off shore that generated a tsunami.
The only record of it appears to have been taken by the British Admiralty, given to a 3rd party, and never returned.
...
The ships may have been unaware that there was a tsunami.
It would be nice if you posted a question for me on the forum. Thank you.
Interested in any ships within about 600 km of the Queensland east coast on June 7th 1918, regardless of whether they do or do not mention the earthquake or waves.
Steve
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 29 May 2015, 01:42:23
Not sure what Steve is looking for but this query in Google brought up some data.

tsunami queensland June 7 1918

I think he may be part of this group.
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/aeesorg/ODBvYBT1uLo (https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/aeesorg/ODBvYBT1uLo)

Stuart
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 29 May 2015, 03:34:08
After I posted this, I tried to use Gordon's custom google search (http://www.google.com/cse?cx=009877456310598106759%3Azxs0-uu4kew&cof=FORID%3A0&q=%227+June+1918%22&sa=Search#gsc.tab=0&gsc.q=%227%20June%201918%22&gsc.page=1/) on the NHN home page for just "7 June 1918", but its too much for someone without any personal interests in the search.  Between the almost 300 ships and all the casualty lists and other things, it produced 10 pages of possibles.  Maybe that google group may want to go through them.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Caro on 29 May 2015, 04:04:14
The closest ship of ours that I know of was HMAS Una, but she was over 1,000 miles away in New Guinea.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 29 May 2015, 11:51:58
I know you've been watching all the Aussie ships closely, so that's probably the truth.  Sigh.  Wish we could do better for them.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: JamesAPrattIII on 30 May 2015, 16:04:28
reply 10246 talks about the worst British railway disaster. The French had a bigger one. At Modane 12 December 1917 over 1000 men were killed in a railway disaster.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 30 May 2015, 16:13:22
I have to say, Europe's 19th century trains managed to completely out-do US railroads in disasters.  I really had no idea.  Downright scary, actually.

Quote
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Train_Wreck_of_1918
The Great Train Wreck of 1918 occurred on July 9, 1918, in Nashville, Tennessee. Two passenger trains, operated by the Nashville, Chattanooga and St. Louis Railway ("NC&StL"), collided head-on, costing at least 101 lives and injuring an additional 171. It is considered the worst rail accident in United States history,[1] though estimates of the death toll of this accident overlap with that of the Malbone Street Wreck in Brooklyn the same year.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 30 May 2015, 21:46:16
For all the Cat lovers in OW.
You now have an excuse for any strange things you do.
From New Scientist.
http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg22630230.200?cmpid=NLC|NSNS|2015-0528-GLOBAL&utm_medium=NLC&utm_source=NSNS (http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg22630230.200?cmpid=NLC|NSNS|2015-0528-GLOBAL&utm_medium=NLC&utm_source=NSNS)

 ::)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 30 May 2015, 21:50:02
 ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Michael on 30 May 2015, 22:45:28
For all the Cat lovers in OW.
You now have an excuse for any strange things you do.
From New Scientist.
http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg22630230.200?cmpid=NLC|NSNS|2015-0528-GLOBAL&utm_medium=NLC&utm_source=NSNS (http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg22630230.200?cmpid=NLC|NSNS|2015-0528-GLOBAL&utm_medium=NLC&utm_source=NSNS)

 ::)

That would be me!!!  :'( :'( :'(

Don't tell Toby the Cat I said that. Please, don't let him know.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Hanibal94 on 31 May 2015, 04:25:46
I can't read the article because it's subscription-only. Could someone post it here please?
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Danny252 on 31 May 2015, 06:17:58
I have to say, Europe's 19th century trains managed to completely out-do US railroads in disasters.  I really had no idea.  Downright scary, actually.

There's two points that might be important:

1. A lot of big railway disasters took place during wartime, where the situation was often very difficult. I wonder how many large railway accidents occurred during the Civil War?

2. European railway systems are in general much denser and carry many more people. The numbers are probably more favourable in terms of accidents per passenger miles travelled.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 31 May 2015, 11:27:10
Point 1 caught my curiosity, so I googled 'civil war railroad disasters' and found only 3 with their own sites, and this list of the whole.  http://civilwartalk.com/threads/railroad-accidents-kill-soldiers-during-civil-war.113583/  They say the worst one killed 60, it was carrying over 800 Confederate prisoners of war.  Which is more than bad enuf in my book.  But they list exactly the same problems as Britain had - absolutely no attempt to schedule the traffic on by what all is on the tracks, along with completely inadequate infrastructure to handle the growing weight.  Scheduling each engine to go take care of itself seemed to be the rule here too.

That density is everything I think - we have an extraordinary amount of space, and most of us forget how rare that is world wide.  Calculated from Wiki numbers.

Demographics of the United States 2015
Density           84.5 people/sq mi
                        32.5 people/km2
(total square miles 3,537,500 sq mi)

Demographics of the United States 1860
Density           10.6 people/sq mi
                          4.0 people/km2
(total square miles 1,773,461 sq mi)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 31 May 2015, 14:14:21
I can't read the article because it's subscription-only. Could someone post it here please?

I cannot post all the article, as it is, as you say, subscription. But I will post some of it.

There's a feline parasite that makes us take unnecessary risks and could even cause psychosis. And up to 4 billion of us are unknowingly infected
IMAGINE there were a parasite living in your brain ? an alien interloper with the power to alter your neurochemistry, manipulate your behaviour and change the way others see you. It might even rob you of your sanity. You are not the only person affected. The creature has taken up residence in the brains of billions of people, and many more are at risk.

This is not fiction. This mind-snatcher actually exists.
<snip>
You may have heard of it. The microbe in question is Toxoplasma gondii, a single-celled protozoan that infects many birds and mammals but reproduces sexually in just one group: cats. Humans generally acquire it by eating undercooked meat and unwashed fruit and vegetables, or from cleaning litter trays of cats that have recently been infected.
<snip>
In the mid-1990s, for instance, researchers including Joanne Webster, now at Imperial College London, UK, discovered that toxoplasmosis makes rodents more active and less fearful: a suicidal combination that increases their likelihood of being caught by cats. The consensus was that the parasite could not pull off a similar trick in humans. But one man suspected otherwise.

Evolutionary biologist Jaroslav Flegr at the Charles University in Prague, Czech Republic, decided to investigate its effect on human behaviour. His findings surprised many people. In 1994, Flegr and colleagues reported that men infected with the protozoan were more likely than uninfected men to disregard rules, or to be excessively suspicious or jealous. A few years later, he used a computer-based test to show that infected men and women have significantly delayed reactions compared with uninfected individuals. The work attracted little attention at the time.

Then, in 2002, Flegr tested people responsible for traffic accidents in Prague for infection. The results confirmed his hunch: car drivers and pedestrians injured on the city's roads were more than twice as likely to be infected as a comparable group of people living in the same area. As in rats, the parasite appeared to be linked with reckless behaviour. The finding, which has since been replicated by other groups, has encouraged others to question whether Toxoplasma is more harmful to humans than we imagined.

<that's all I think I can put here for copyright reasons.>

Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Caro on 01 June 2015, 03:07:30
Happy birthday

to the lovely Helen.  :)

Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: jil on 01 June 2015, 03:09:42
Have a great day, Helen!
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Craig on 01 June 2015, 06:26:26
All the best, Helen!
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Randi on 01 June 2015, 06:27:44
Happy Birthday
Helen J

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Enjoy a nice slice of angel food cake ;)



Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Dean on 01 June 2015, 09:20:38
Helen:

   Happy Birthday to you,
   Happy Birthday to you,
   Happy Birthday dear Helllllllllllllllllllllllllllllleeeeennnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn,
   Happy Birthday to you!

Hope it's a happy one and that you get lots of neat presents!
Hope also you get to share with family!
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 01 June 2015, 11:20:54
Happy Birthday, Helen.

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Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Michael on 01 June 2015, 11:56:04
Many wishes for a Happy Day today and for the next year, Helen!
Hooray for you.

Michael
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Hanibal94 on 01 June 2015, 12:54:21
Happy Birthday, Helen! Hope it's a good one.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Thursday Next on 01 June 2015, 13:07:44
Happy Birthday, Helen!

Hope you've had a great day!
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: AvastMH on 01 June 2015, 15:41:39
Haaaappeeeeee birthdaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay to youuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu..Helen!  :D :D :D

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Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 01 June 2015, 16:54:18
Happy Birthday Helen from Down Under.  21 again etc, etc.

Joan, are you flying the flag incorrectly for a reason?
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Randi on 01 June 2015, 17:07:06
Try Hola Better Internet - it's a free browser extension that allows you to access websites via a foreign proxy server, so you can trick the site into thinking you're in that country when you're not.
It's available for Firefox and Chrome - I've used it to access BBC stuff from Germany, and it works. It just takes a little longer to load because everything has to go through the proxy.

I don't know if this is the same thing...
Hola rocked by botnet accusations (http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-32958624)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 01 June 2015, 18:03:20
Actually it might be.  I've had some strange reports from things lately, like sending 2 emails from me were emails 3 and 4.  I just removed, to be safe.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Helen J on 02 June 2015, 05:36:47
Thank you all for your birthday wishes - I've had a great long weekend celebrating with my family, going out for meals, and generally having a good time.  Today gets a bit more serious - packing up to move on to San Francisco.  I hope once I'm settled there and am over the jetlag I'll be back on the good ship Patterson transcribing away for dear life.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Caro on 02 June 2015, 06:21:18
Good luck, Helen. Exciting times, eh?  :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 02 June 2015, 07:16:12
That's a very long move.  Be gentle on yourself while packing.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Randi on 02 June 2015, 07:56:43
Wow! How long do you expect to be in San Francisco?
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Helen J on 02 June 2015, 13:13:45
I'll be there for three weeks, Randi.  It's work; my community has sisters there and I'm going to be with them, and attend their Chapter meeting.  But I can't pretend it isn't a lovely place to have to go to for work!
I'm planning to make a return visit to an interesting museum of historic ships down on the waterfront; I've been a couple of times already and there's always something new to see.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: AvastMH on 02 June 2015, 15:32:22
Have a great visit Helen  :D
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Michael on 02 June 2015, 21:14:31
Indeed, Helen, have a great visit. Bad timing on my part. Rather than visit our daughter in San Fran this spring we're all going to gather with the one in Toronto, otherwise I would have dragged you to our favourite vineyard.  :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: AvastMH on 03 June 2015, 13:23:21
Looking for more options for the Shipopoly chance cards, and community chest cards folks. Can you help please?  :D

So far we've got the following:
Chance
Your ship is struck by a mine. Go directly to Drydock.
Your ship has to be pulled off a mud bar. Pay M15 to each player and miss a turn
The Navy Yard?s repair team works overtime on your repairs. Get out of Drydock free
Your ship is overrun by insurgents. Move immediately to the Naval Fines Office. If you pass GO do not collect M200
Your ship is the best turned out in the July 4th Navy Parade. Collect M100 from the Bank
You get seasick, even worse than Lord Nelson! Transfer directly to Base Ship ?Tamar?. If you pass GO do not collect M200
You are too busy noting an aurora borealis event, and bump into an iceberg. Advance to SHIP?S REFIT. If you pass GO do not collect M200
Your log keeper accidentally uses the bridge?s flower vase water instead of ink. Go directly to the Drydock jetty (Shore Leave) and miss your next turn
You are distracted by a field of floating lemons. Go back three spaces
You are Lieutenant Scrawl. Go back to FAMAGUSTA
You are the USS Concord. Move directly to Manila. Collect M50 from all other insurgents (players)
You seize an enemy schooner and its cargo. Collect M150 from the Bank and proceed to the Crow?s Nest. If you pass GO collect M200
You chance on a ship stuck on rocks. Charge each player M15 to pull the ship off the rocks
You are a whaler in the Arctic after October 23rd and are stuck in ice. Miss your next turn
You discover gold in the mud near the Yukon. Go directly to the Donkey Boiler. Collect M200 if you pass GO
You deliver vital food to the Russian  Navy. Advance to Scapa Flow


Community Chest
The women of the American Mission in Nanking buy every crew member a Christmas present. Collect M50 from the Bank
Pay M50 to the Bank for transfer to the local Police as bounty for the return of AWOL crew
Pick up several hundred survivors from a sinking ship. Collect M200 Prize Money from the Bank
Buy a ticket for the Panama Canal. Pay M150. Advance one square then move to the next square in another ocean/sea. If you pass GO collect M200
Pay Bank M50 for the Community Chest to have their Pest Control clear the ants from your barometer
Your gunship is upgraded from 4? to 6? guns. Advance to GO
Your crew steal a launch and lose it whilst AWOL. Pay the Bank M75 insurance waiver fees
You are the weather log keeper on USS Patterson. Pay M75 to the Bank to buy training lessons
Buy 20 bolts of cloth to mark a geodetic Survey Signal Station. Pay Bank M100
You are assessed for general ship upgrades. Pay M15 per Sail Ship and Pay M25 per Cruiser
If you own the Donkey Boiler and/or Bilge Pump pay M50 per unit for an upgrade
You provide half your ship?s store of chocolate to another needy ship. Receive Naval Care Award M100 via the Bank
Report a spectacular aurora borealis. Receive award of M100 from The Astronomical Society via the Bank
Provided food, water, and an orphanage to a starving village. Collect M50 financial assistance from the Bank
You rescue troops at Galipoli. Receive a medal for heroic action. Collect M75 from the Bank
You catch seal poachers. Collect M75 from the Bank

A mix of good things and bad things are valuable. If you can think of events let me know and I'll simply choose a benefit or penalty that's suitable unless you'd like to suggest something.

Looking forward to see your brain-pickings!
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 03 June 2015, 18:52:58
FYI - the beta tests for our new interface are starting.  And meeting discussion got us this information, for those who want to play with beta test any new Zooniverse projects, from Grant.

Quote
Hi ,

Anyone interested in being a Zooniverse beta-tester should visit betas.zooniverse.org (http://betas.zooniverse.org/)

Cheers

Grant
@mrniaboc

Just click the button so it turns green - you are already signed in to Zooniverse there, so no added info needed.  Click again to opt out.  :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Hanibal94 on 03 June 2015, 19:20:53
To those of you who don't know already: I am leaving for vacation on the island of Madeira quite early tomorrow today - it's 1 am where I am right now.
I will be gone until June 12th, with no laptop and no ability to transcribe or visit the forum.

Keep up the good work - I hope to do more on the Patterson when I get back.


Hanibal94

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Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 03 June 2015, 19:27:02
I like true vacations, they are refreshing.  Enjoy Hanibal.  :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: AvastMH on 04 June 2015, 08:19:36
THAT'S what I call a proper holiday. When you visit Funchal you can think of all our sailing ships that visited there on their way to Round the Horn.
Enjoy the flowers of Madeira, I hear they are very special at this time of year. and RELAX  :D
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Michael on 07 June 2015, 18:47:51
A question for car people. My sister gave me a giant box of old family photos, negatives, slides etc, with hardly any documentation, although a very few are labelled, and then  in a most unhelpful way like "Here we are in front of our home," or "Greetings from all of us."  Many are just stuffed in random order in random envelopes with old negatives of different formats all mixed together, so dating them is tricky. For example, I dated my Dad's trip to Mexico by reading the date on the license plate on a car in Los Angeles (1938). Here's another one. If I can date this photo within a year or so, I will be able to date several others. Does anyone know what year and model this car is? That's my Dad behind the wheel, looking for all the world like my son when he was about 20.

I'm the kind of person who has difficulty distinguishing between a Volkswagen and a Rolls. Even though I searched Google images, I drew a blank.  :'(

Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 07 June 2015, 19:26:15
Looks similar to a lasalle-convertible-coupe-model-50-1937 minus the headlights
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 07 June 2015, 19:31:41
"search for google image" gives me this one.  (similar by cosmetics, I am NOT a car person that knows brands etc.)
http://uniquecarsandparts.com/car_spotters_guide_usa_1940.htm  scroll way down or search for...

Hudson Eight Convertible Coupe. In 1940 Hudson introduced coil-spring IFS and Weathermaster fresh air and heat control.
(http://uniquecarsandparts.com/images/car_spotters_guide/1940/hudson_2.jpg)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 07 June 2015, 19:47:29
I think Janets looks closer to the pic than mine.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Dean on 07 June 2015, 19:57:25
Blowing it up and reading the hubcaps  I think it's an Edsel! I'd say late 30's early 40's??!!
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Hurlock on 07 June 2015, 20:21:02
1940 hudson convertible images match the picture very well - better than the example used.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 07 June 2015, 20:22:19
Wiki says Edsel didn't start until 1955.  I do remember my father buying one of the first Edsels, and while I'm a senior citizen for sure, I do NOT remember WW2 or earlier, as I wasn't more than a twinkle in my father's eye.

Quote
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edsel
Marketing research and development for the new intermediate line had begun in 1955 under the code name "E car",[3] which stood for "experimental car." Ford Motor Company eventually decided on the name "Edsel", in honor of Edsel B. Ford, son of the company's founder, Henry Ford (despite objections from Henry Ford II[3]). The proposed vehicle marque would represent the stand-up of a new division of the firm alongside that of Ford itself and the Lincoln-Mercury division, whose cars at the time shared the same bodies.

Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Michael on 07 June 2015, 21:22:18
"search for google image" gives me this one.  (similar by cosmetics, I am NOT a car person that knows brands etc.)
http://uniquecarsandparts.com/car_spotters_guide_usa_1940.htm  scroll way down or search for...

Hudson Eight Convertible Coupe. In 1940 Hudson introduced coil-spring IFS and Weathermaster fresh air and heat control.
(http://uniquecarsandparts.com/images/car_spotters_guide/1940/hudson_2.jpg)

Janet,

You get a gold star! You get ten gold stars! That's why you're a mod and I'm just a lowly transcriber. thank you, thank you, thank you. This must have been taken shortly before my dad joined up for WW II!

Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 07 June 2015, 23:47:05
You are welcome.  It was fun, no one in our family every bought a convertible, something to do with the upper midwest winters - this one looks cool.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Michael on 08 June 2015, 00:58:28
You are welcome.  It was fun, no one in our family every bought a convertible, something to do with the upper midwest winters - this one looks cool.

As far as I know, it was never in our family. My dad's family was very poor, having suffered a terrible fire in the 1930s and my grandmother was raising six children on her own. No convertibles for them!
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Helen J on 09 June 2015, 23:29:24
One of these nice coincidences - here I am in San Francisco, and the Patterson is currently anchored in the Bay - makes the time disappear into nothing.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 09 June 2015, 23:44:03
Lovely to see where she anchored for real.  Glad life gave you such a nice treat.  :)

Hunter's Point Shipyard since 1870, San Francisco Bay
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/01/Hunters_Point_California_aerial_2006.jpg)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Helen J on 10 June 2015, 00:08:29
Great picture, Janet - thanks very much.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 10 June 2015, 00:42:59
You are welcome. 
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Randi on 10 June 2015, 02:45:29
One of these nice coincidences - here I am in San Francisco, and the Patterson is currently anchored in the Bay - makes the time disappear into nothing.
8) 8) 8)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Craig on 10 June 2015, 06:58:14
Don't unpack, Helen, the Patterson will be leaving for Alaska soon  ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Randi on 10 June 2015, 07:01:48
 ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Helen J on 10 June 2015, 20:36:48
I think I may be going to be added to the list of deserters, as I've no intention of leaving this lovely city yet!
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Helen J on 11 June 2015, 16:55:55
Enjoyed this one!

Antarctic ice kept with chips and peas in Bourne (http://Antarctic ice kept with chips and peas in Bourne)
http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-cambridgeshire-33051256
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Craig on 11 June 2015, 18:36:30
I hope they don't confuse the chips with the ice cores when they do their analysis. ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Dean on 11 June 2015, 19:16:20
I hope they don't confuse the chips with the ice cores when they do their analysis. ;D

Or put the ice in their iced Tea!! :o
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 11 June 2015, 21:03:52
I hope they don't confuse the chips with the ice cores when they do their analysis. ;D

Or put the ice in their iced Tea!! :o

It The Antarctica Ice does taste nice with Whiskey (or it may have been a psychological feeling)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Helen J on 11 June 2015, 23:14:54
Are you sure it's the ice which tastes nice?
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Hanibal94 on 12 June 2015, 08:57:58
Hello again everyone!

I got back very late from Madeira last night, so no time for computer stuff.
But now I'm here, and I have today off, and then it's the weekend so now I can catch up.

My dad and I had a great time - we did a lot of hiking, some swimming (although the ocean was still a bit cold) and on one day, we went sea-kayaking and snorkeling. It was quite a good vacation.

One thing that surprised us was the effect the mountains have on the local climate: On the south side, where we were most of the time, it was warm and sunny most of the time, but on the one day we checked out the north side of the island, it was cloudy and rainy. And often, the clouds came in low enough to actually feel them - when we hiked up to the top of Maderia's highest peak one day, we actually ended up above all the clouds, even though the peak is only about 1860 meters high!

Enjoy the flowers of Madeira, I hear they are very special at this time of year. and RELAX  :D

My dad and I did see a bunch of flowers, yes.
But the main thing that caught our attention were the lizards. They were almost everywhere, lazing in the sun only to disappear into the rocks when we came near. When we were having lunch one time, I found out that spitting cherry pits at them was very amusing - they would think the pits were food and fight over them, but couldn't actually eat them. Heh heh heh.

OK, better get to catching up on all the topics and stuff.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Michael on 12 June 2015, 22:24:46
Welcome back, Hanibal! Glad you're back on the team. I'm pondering Shipopoly, but the number of times I'll be away are an impediment. Maybe in the winter, once daughters are married off and people stop coming to visit me (Stuart!).   ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Caro on 13 June 2015, 03:24:47
Welcome back Hanibal. Sounds like a pretty good vacation to me. 

Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Randi on 13 June 2015, 09:33:23
Hanibal94
Happy  210'th  Birthday
to You


(http://cdnpix.com/show/imgs/0b5c82c501e0dffde2d8e7652ce46a5b.jpg)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Caro on 13 June 2015, 11:57:00
Happy birthday Hanibal!

:) :) :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 13 June 2015, 12:31:06
Happy Birthday, Hanibal!

(http://i390.photobucket.com/albums/oo345/stryke81/MLP/32411a9ddd1224e7d7fbdadee23ffd40.jpg)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Craig on 13 June 2015, 12:59:33
Happy Birthday, Hanibal.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: jil on 13 June 2015, 13:45:53
Hope you're having a great day, Hanibal!
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: AvastMH on 13 June 2015, 14:09:33
HAPPY BIRTHDAY HANIBAL!  HOPE YOU'RE HAVING A GOOD ONE! MADEIRA CAKE FOR YOUR BIRTHDAY THEN - THAT'S LIZARD-COVERED!  ;) ;) ;D


(http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/480x360q90/661/qSLA2d.jpg)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Thursday Next on 13 June 2015, 15:09:14
Happy Birthday, Hanibal!
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: studentforever on 13 June 2015, 15:13:52


Happy Birthday

Hanibal
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Helen J on 13 June 2015, 17:00:06
HAPPY BIRTHDAY, HANIBAL
I hope you've had plenty of celebration and not too much (or any) work
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: AvastMH on 14 June 2015, 08:25:47

(http://juniortheatre.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/superman-showlogo.jpg)
                                     
          NO!         

                                     
          It's:         
                                     
                                       
Shipopoly (http://forum.oldweather.org/index.php?topic=4338.0)
Yes folks - Shipopoly game 2 awaits!
If you'd like to join in the fun and games and sink like I did at the end of the first ever game WIN sign up here: http://forum.oldweather.org/index.php?topic=4338.0
There's even a prize this time! A wonderful piece of art by our very own Caro!!  :D :D :D

Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Hanibal94 on 14 June 2015, 09:49:02
Thanks for the birthday wishes, everyone.  :)

It was good - my family and I had cake and homemade vanilla ice cream, and I got some nice DVDs: Inception and Interstellar.  8)
Plus, my dad and I are gonna see Jurassic World at the cinema this evening - tonight's the one time it's playing in English in Leipzig.

Oh, and now I can legally drink booze in the USA (not that I want to - I hate the taste of alcohol)!
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Randi on 14 June 2015, 10:48:13
Philae comet lander wakes up, says European Space Agency (http://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-33126885)

Philae awakening provides extraordinary opportunity (http://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-33128288)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Bob on 14 June 2015, 11:00:02
 8) 8) 8)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 14 June 2015, 11:47:58
Yes!!  I thought its landing place would become the sunny side sooner or later.  :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Dean on 14 June 2015, 13:08:59
Happy Birthday, Hanibal94!!!!!
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Helen J on 14 June 2015, 15:10:25
Philae comet lander wakes up, says European Space Agency (http://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-33126885)

Philae awakening provides extraordinary opportunity (http://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-33128288)

Brilliant news - saw a wonderful story about one of the scientists hugging a taxi driver when she heard the news!
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 14 June 2015, 16:27:14
Good-morning all.

Happy Birthday Hanibal.

Welcome back Philae.

I think todays Doodle is funny.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Michael on 14 June 2015, 19:58:55
Belated Happy Birthday, Hanibal!!! Best I can do right now.... just in from visiting sisters, dropped off the suitcase, and off for dinner...         
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Hanibal94 on 15 June 2015, 02:51:37
Thanks Dean, Stuart and Mike! :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Craig on 16 June 2015, 06:39:02
I can't seem to post to the Shipopoly topic.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Hanibal94 on 16 June 2015, 06:41:44
I can't seem to post to the Shipopoly topic.

Actually, you did manage it - see attachment.
Are you having local Internet problems?
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Craig on 16 June 2015, 09:24:22
Must be local. I got no response when I hit send and I went back to the topic my post wasn't there.

Also, my browser timed out a number of times on the OW site.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 16 June 2015, 09:36:39
I'm getting good reception, no skipping problems, so it isn't the zooniverse system.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 17 June 2015, 16:04:53
Some nice unusual (for our area) mammary clouds, they did not develop into full blown ones.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: studentforever on 19 June 2015, 02:36:45
For anyone interested in the WW1 scuttling of the German Fleet in Scapa Flow a contemporaneous description is given in a letter from a young RN sub lieutenant to his family

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-33152438
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Caro on 19 June 2015, 12:57:00
(https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xtf1/t31.0-8/p843x403/11144487_10153086565739209_5818358832780205206_o.jpg)
It's a Facebook thing.

 ::) Stratus, me.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Randi on 19 June 2015, 13:16:36
Ditto ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Thursday Next on 19 June 2015, 13:55:37
Me too!  ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 19 June 2015, 14:49:32
Cumulus for me.  :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 19 June 2015, 16:40:24
Noctilucent for me.  I will look up what they look like tonight.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Hanibal94 on 19 June 2015, 17:37:10
Cumulonimbus for me. Please don't ask.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Hanibal94 on 19 June 2015, 18:00:01
Bad news, people - I'm gonna have to take a long break from transcribing because of a serious problem: My right wrist is hurting too much.
It started about 3.5 weeks ago, because I did way too many pages in order to finish the Jamestown 1866 and pass 100.000 on the Patterson.

I thought it would get better after my no-computer-vacation in Madeira -> and at first it did, but now it's back and it's been getting worse.
This is a very hard decision for me, but I have no choice -> if I don't stop now, it'll get so bad I won't even be able to use my mouse with my right hand anymore.

I will wait two weeks, see how I'm feeling then. But I will still use the forum during this time.
When I do come back, I intend to take it slowly - only a few pages at first, maybe 5 per day.
And when my wrist has fully recovered, I will never do more than 1.000 WR per day. Never again. It's not worth it.

Please, don't let my loss demoralize you - just keep going without me!


Hanibal94
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 19 June 2015, 18:12:54
Take a well earned break and get better, BUT just keep Shipopoly going please.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Craig on 19 June 2015, 18:24:09
You can't argue with your body, Hanibal. Perhaps you can look into voice recognition while you are recovering.  :D :P
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 19 June 2015, 19:22:58
Take care of yourself, and look for ways to keep your body happy long term.  You are important to us.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Dean on 19 June 2015, 19:32:40
Take care, Hanibal!!

As to clouds - I'm going Cirrus/Cirrostratus   ???
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Craig on 19 June 2015, 20:07:15
Cloud nine for me (it's not on the chart)  ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Helen J on 19 June 2015, 20:55:53
Sorry to hear about your problem, Hanibal - you're being very sensible to give it a proper rest.  Your faithful crew on Patterson (well, this member anyway) will keep slogging on in your absence.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: studentforever on 20 June 2015, 02:29:01
Sounds like Repetitive Strain Injury, could be worth checking your keyboard technique, cos if it gets really established it can plague you for ever. A good rest is a great idea, but if it starts to plague you just doing your regular computing for your course then don't be afraid to consult a medic.

OW will miss you - our stats will plummet. Take care, enjoy the summer and drop in the forum.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: jil on 20 June 2015, 04:54:26
Hope the rest works Hanibal and take it gently when you re-start.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Hanibal94 on 20 June 2015, 05:45:59
Sounds like Repetitive Strain Injury, could be worth checking your keyboard technique, cos if it gets really established it can plague you for ever. A good rest is a great idea, but if it starts to plague you just doing your regular computing for your course then don't be afraid to consult a medic.

I'm pretty sure that's what happened. As I said, I did way too much in just a few days, so I think I "overloaded" my wrist because the technique I developed is great for transcribing lots of WR, but not so great for hand health.
I've adjusted my typing technique to make it better for my hands - I keep them straight and level with my forearms, instead of bending my wrists back and forth liek I used too. That should help.

And yes, I will stay in the forum, and I will continue to moderate the Shipopoly game. I can still do that.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Randi on 20 June 2015, 07:24:54
I'm sorry to respond late, but I had to catch the bus this morning :-[

Take care of yourself!!!!!
PLEASE show better sense than I did. If it doesn't get better soon, think about seeing a doctor or physical therapist. Maybe you can get some exercises that will help. About two years ago I started having trouble with my shoulder and I kept ignoring it hoping that it would go away by itself. It only got worse. I had ultrasound treatments, manipulations, and exercises. It took awhile, but it is fine now. Last year I started having a little bit of trouble, but I started doing the exercises and that fixed it.

(http://th01.deviantart.net/fs71/PRE/i/2013/273/2/f/rainbow_dash_get_well_soon_by_mlr19-d6oq1og.png)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: AvastMH on 20 June 2015, 08:37:02
Hanibal - t a k e   g o o d   c a r e   o f   y o u r s e l f,   p l e a s e!!! :o :) :) :)

Your body has set your limits now. Nothing you can do but listen. Sounds like you have a good plan of action in resting completely.
Just to add to all the excellent advice above, the old trick of cold the hot then cold then hot bathing of the wrists can help a lot (cold to get down any inflammation, hot to increase body repairing blood flow). Getting your technique right is a must, perhaps you need an ergonomically sculptured keyboard?  :-\ ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: AvastMH on 20 June 2015, 08:38:53
Clouds - Caro have you got any room for another one on that stratus cloud please? And can I tie myself onto something whilst we're up there - and would that also come with a parachute?  :o :o
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Thursday Next on 20 June 2015, 14:13:15
Hanibal - sorry to hear about your wrist problems and taking a rest is definitely the right thing to do.  I've had rheumatoid arthritis for many years which has seriously affected my hands and wrists.  I'm right-handed but a few years ago changed to using the mouse with my left hand.  It did not take long to adjust.  There are a number of different ergonomic mice on the market - different styles suit different people.  A lot of people swear by the vertical mice, but they don't suit me at all, so it's a question of finding what is right for you as an individual if you think this might be worth exploring.  I personally like the Handshoe mouse and I have two connected to my computer as they are different for right- and left-handed.  I mostly use the left-hand one, but switch to the other one if the left hand gets painful.  Hope it gets better soon!
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Caro on 21 June 2015, 03:02:30
Take it easy, Hanibal.  :)

Happy Father's Day to all the dads celebrating today. Happy solstice too.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 21 June 2015, 04:44:21
No wonder I could not fit all I wanted to do in today.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Caro on 21 June 2015, 04:46:36
 ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: AvastMH on 21 June 2015, 12:54:15
To all of our OW dads  :D :D

(http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/640x480q90/909/IxamlT.jpg)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 21 June 2015, 14:57:47
Happy Father's Day!!
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: AvastMH on 22 June 2015, 18:31:22
Is anyone else working on a 'Talk' ridden Zooniverse project and having trouble messaging in it (either comments or personal messages) please?
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 22 June 2015, 18:34:04
No, sorry.  I do play in other projects on occasion, but not much in Talk.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: AvastMH on 22 June 2015, 18:38:12
No, sorry.  I do play in other projects on occasion, but not much in Talk.
A fine choice if I may say so Janet,  ;) ;) :D
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Caro on 23 June 2015, 02:42:54
I sent you a test PM, Joan.  ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: AvastMH on 23 June 2015, 04:37:32
Got it  :D Thanks very much - looks like the system was just very slow. I sent a message to Darren to say all is now well  :D
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Randi on 23 June 2015, 08:18:41
The 4 April 2015 issue of Science News had a review of the book Rust by Jonathan Waldman.
I thought this quote might resonate with those of us who have noticed the occasional mention of scraping and painting ;)
Quote
The No. 1 threat to the U.S. Navy isn?t a foreign adversary. It?s corrosion. And many admirals say they?re losing the battle. What the Department of Defense spends dealing with corrosion each year would buy two brand new aircraft carriers or a few dozen fighter jets. The annual bill for the United States as a whole is an estimated $437 billion ? about 3 percent of the nation?s gross domestic product. Corrosion?s cost is, in fact, higher than that of all natural disasters combined.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 23 June 2015, 09:46:28
I totally believe that.  Maintenance for a large navy is very large, and salt water acts on every piece of iron/steel it can find.  (Wooden hulls don't last that long without maintenance either.)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Hanibal94 on 23 June 2015, 10:21:59
I have heard of something similar - not just the ships, but the whole military as well:
(Taken from Cracked.com, "5 Myths About the Military You Believe (Thanks to Movies)", edited to remove bad words).



When Maverick hops into his F-14, or Will Smith goes after a giant alien flying saucer in his F-18, what never makes it onto screen is the absolute mountain of tedious maintenance that goes on to make that possible. An older aircraft needs a mind-boggling 40 to 60 man-hours of maintenance per hour of flight. A newer aircraft like an F/A-18 will have "only" about six hours for every flight hour ... but that number goes up as the fleet ages.

(http://i.crackedcdn.com/phpimages/article/5/9/6/43596.jpg?v=1)
Better join quick!

Try to picture a video game or an old G.I. Joe play set from your childhood that featured this (real) maintenance schedule: You wash the plane every 14 days and take the panels off and hand-wipe interior of the plane every 28 days. You do flight control maintenance every 56 days, and take everything apart once a year. And don't forget phase inspections for metal fatigue, the independent inspections by military higher-ups, the conditional inspections after the plane has had a hard landing, the engine inspections after every 150 and 300 flight hours, inspections of the flight recorder after every 10 flight hours ... and that's on a plane that's working perfectly. This isn't even touching on the time spent fixing stuff that breaks.

It's not just planes -- it's every piece of equipment. It all needs constant upkeep and babysitting. In the Navy, out of the 250 to 300 ships in the fleet, only a hundred are up and working at any one time. The rest are in maintenance. Generally, that's one year off for every six months of use. Our guns, too, are notorious for getting jammed easily in sand and need constant attention (good thing none of our wars are fought in deserts these days), and tank crews spend more time maintaining their vehicles than anything else.

(http://i.crackedcdn.com/phpimages/article/5/9/8/43598.jpg?v=1)
"Jeeze guys, did anyone NOT spill their drink in here? Slurpee Friday was the worst idea ever."

So even if servicemen and women are 1) serving during a war and 2) getting deployed to combat zones, the majority are in support roles. Not just fixing the aforementioned machinery, but cooking meals, driving trucks, trying to use the computers, trying to fix the computers, trying to put in orders for new computers and so forth.

In a combat zone like Iraq, for every one soldier whose job description includes combat, 2.5 people are in support positions (http://en.allexperts.com/q/Military-Policy-Weapons-346/2009/9/Support-Troop-Combat-Troop.htm) doing all of the tedious but lifesaving work that makes his job possible. So if you're like the vast majority of those who serve, the rest of your life will most likely not be spent telling war stories, but rather explaining to that 15-year-old punk in Starbucks that you got the scar on your face from tripping over an unsecured air conditioning cable on the way to your bunk.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Randi on 23 June 2015, 12:09:56
Interesting, thanks!
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Randi on 23 June 2015, 13:17:15
Arctic warming bolsters summer heat waves
Slowing jet stream spawns weaker continent-cooling storms

By Thomas Sumner
2:00pm, March 12, 2015

https://www.sciencenews.org/article/arctic-warming-bolsters-summer-heat-waves
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: AvastMH on 23 June 2015, 13:19:01
 :-[ :-[ :o :'(
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Thursday Next on 23 June 2015, 14:39:49
For those of us in the UK who missed seeing the Aurora Borealis last night (why do I never hear about these things until after the event?  :( ) there will apparently be another good chance on Wednesday night:
http://blog.metoffice.gov.uk/2015/06/23/large-solar-storm-brings-spectacular-views-of-the-aurora/
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: jil on 23 June 2015, 15:08:08
I hardly ever hear about them either and when I do the weather's no good. Forecasting clouds for Wed night round here  :'(
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Thursday Next on 23 June 2015, 15:18:17
Yes. the weather forecast seems to be the same for Devon, too  >:(
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Tegwen on 23 June 2015, 15:33:48
For those of us in the UK who missed seeing the Aurora Borealis last night (why do I never hear about these things until after the event?  :( ) there will apparently be another good chance on Wednesday night:
http://blog.metoffice.gov.uk/2015/06/23/large-solar-storm-brings-spectacular-views-of-the-aurora/

If you want automatic email notifications of when there may be an aurora you can log in to Aurora watch {http://aurorawatch.lancs.ac.uk/} and sign up for their email notifications.

I got the notifications for last night, but there was nothing visible here.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Caro on 23 June 2015, 16:37:45
I follow @aurorawatchuk on Twitter.
Posted about 20 minutes ago:

AuroraWatch UK ‏@aurorawatchuk

Geomagnetic storm declining. NOAA predicts arrival of CME & storm Wed/Thur. For up-to-date info see http://aurorawatch.lancs.ac.uk
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Hanibal94 on 24 June 2015, 04:30:40
Good news, people - My RSI seems to be going down. It's still there, but it isn't bugging me as much as it used to.
I've been using support pads for my wrists, and am trying to not keep the same position at work all day long, but to switch back and forth between straight up (back at 90 degree angle to thighs) and leaning back. That should help my arms and my back stay in shape.

So I've decided to return to transcribing - but not much. Just a little on the Albatross 1884 for now.
Oh, and I'm never gonna do more than 1000 WR per day EVER. It's not worth it.
I know I made promises like that before, but I ended up not keeping them -> well this time, I do intend to keep it. Can't believe I had to hurt myself to "get it".
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: studentforever on 24 June 2015, 05:21:36
As a retired academic, your behaviour is not untypical of your age group. If you learn after 1 sharp lesson you are doing well.  :)

Many students I met took several lessons to get the message, sometimes they never learned and disaster struck.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Randi on 24 June 2015, 08:09:13
(http://iambrony.steeph.tp-radio.de/mlp/gif/tumblr_mhb6yjgiyq1r97maco1_1280.gif)

Take care and slow down!
You will go faster in the long run ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Thursday Next on 24 June 2015, 15:20:16
For those of us in the UK who missed seeing the Aurora Borealis last night (why do I never hear about these things until after the event?  :( ) there will apparently be another good chance on Wednesday night:
http://blog.metoffice.gov.uk/2015/06/23/large-solar-storm-brings-spectacular-views-of-the-aurora/

If you want automatic email notifications of when there may be an aurora you can log in to Aurora watch {http://aurorawatch.lancs.ac.uk/} and sign up for their email notifications.

I got the notifications for last night, but there was nothing visible here.

Actually, I have previously signed up to the email notifications from Aurora Watch - they just seem to send them out a bit late in the day for me!  I will have to take a leap forward and get myself a smartphone or a tablet so that I can check my emails at all hours, instead of cutting myself off at around this time of the evening when I log off my desktop.  But I worry that if I had a mobile device I would just be permanently connected to the internet and would never get anything done ever again!  ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Randi on 25 June 2015, 02:47:48
Computer Problems :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(

I will be online a bit less for the moment and probably taking it to the shop early next week.
I can probably check in using Dad's computer from time to time.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 25 June 2015, 04:20:34
Ouch.  Hope the computer-hospital makes it better fast.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 25 June 2015, 05:03:02
I hope the bill doesn't Byte to much.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Randi on 25 June 2015, 09:11:39
Thanks!
It's been running well for about 5 years, so I can't complain too much.
I just opened it up and gave it a thorough cleaning. I suspect the problem is heat-related.
I think I will be OK till next week if I don't keep it on for long periods of time, so I should still be able to check in fairly frequently.
 :-\
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: AvastMH on 25 June 2015, 18:33:42
Go down to your local store and work in the refrigerated room. Simple!  ;) ;) :D

Hope it's better soon!  :D
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Craig on 25 June 2015, 19:51:46
You might remember I was having trouble with my old computer last summer as the basement began to warm up - the fan was coming on too often. Vacuuming the computer was essential but I also bought a more efficient fan and heat sink to go on top of the processor. That seemed to help. My basement hasn't warmed up above 20 C so far this summer so I don't know how it will do this year.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Michael on 29 June 2015, 19:26:07
I don't seem to be able to log into Old Weather to transcribe! I'm using the same old username and password. I even typed both in, just in case Firefox forgot them.

Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 29 June 2015, 19:57:57
Michael, I also am having strange signin problems.  I'll send word of yours to the PTB to add to my own.  The PTB I know for this are on Chicago time, so they won't get it until tomorrow.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Michael on 29 June 2015, 21:56:13
Michael, I also am having strange signin problems.  I'll send word of yours to the PTB to add to my own.  The PTB I know for this are on Chicago time, so they won't get it until tomorrow.

Thanks, Janet. No rush for me. I'm sorting through about 830 crew and officers who have been transferred etc as the Concord is decommissioned for her second time. I won't be able to transcribe tomorrow in any case.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 29 June 2015, 22:30:56
I heard back from Ed, the developer working on the sign-ins.  He said he didn't know the old system was case sensitive, and will fix it soon.  We're just helping them break in our new shoes.  :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Hanibal94 on 30 June 2015, 02:11:16
I managed to log in fine, even with a username containing upper and lower case letters.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: lollia paolina on 30 June 2015, 03:36:22
I heard back from Ed, the developer working on the sign-ins.  He said he didn't know the old system was case sensitive, and will fix it soon.  We're just helping them break in our new shoes.  :)

Hi Janet,
I am having sign-in problems this morning.
I have tried to recover password and it seems that does not work as well.
Here is what I got:
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Caro on 30 June 2015, 04:07:45
Hi Silvia. We'll see what we can do. It may take a while.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: lollia paolina on 30 June 2015, 04:10:03
Thank you, Caro :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 30 June 2015, 09:21:02
I already sent MAPurves and my own problems, and our designer was answering in the late evening!  I'll add your encounter to the list.

I note that you (lollia paolina) and I are among those who need to take the spaces out of their usernames, and we both were labeled "unknown entity"  with an "error".

They are working on it now.

Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 30 June 2015, 09:58:06
pommystuart can get in.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Helen J on 30 June 2015, 11:19:41
I can get in OK - but I have a lower case name and no spaces.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: DZM on 30 June 2015, 11:43:25
A heads-up to all: You should be able to log in on old stuff with either your user name or your display name from the new system.

We also, I believe, have fixed some of the issues that people were having. If you had an issue, please give it another shot, and let me know if you're still having difficulties!
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 30 June 2015, 13:21:10
Darren, I'm still blocked - signed off last night to try the new name JanetJaguar and now no sign-in name works for me.


Fixed!!
 
A note from Ed:
Quote
...logging at https://www.zooniverse.org/ may have some issues at the moment. http://login.zooniverse.org/ should work fine.

Thank you, Ed!!
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 30 June 2015, 17:13:16
Happy Canada Day to those it applies to.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Craig on 30 June 2015, 17:32:21
Thanks Stuart - only 6 1/2 hours to go (5 hours in Newfoundland).
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Kathy on 30 June 2015, 21:34:33
I'm checking to see if my picture has changed here - I changed it to the Jamestown ( :-* Caro) over in Talk -

Nope - it is still the Foxglove here -
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 30 June 2015, 22:29:20
We are somewhat separated from the rest of the Zooniverse.  You have to get your zooniverse avatar url.  Then open the Profile/Forum profile option here.  Choose "specify avatar by url" and put in the new url.  Then click "change profile" in bottom right corner.

Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 30 June 2015, 22:45:06
(http://happydailyimages.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/Happy-Canada-Day-2.jpg)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: lollia paolina on 01 July 2015, 01:43:03
A heads-up to all: You should be able to log in on old stuff with either your user name or your display name from the new system.

We also, I believe, have fixed some of the issues that people were having. If you had an issue, please give it another shot, and let me know if you're still having difficulties!

I am sorry to report the problem is still there: no log in.

I have tried both URLs:

 https://www.zooniverse.org/
http://login.zooniverse.org/

but none of them works.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 01 July 2015, 02:13:19
Sylvia, show me precisely what you want with letter case and I'll ask them to rename you manually.  Is it LolliaPaolina or are you changing?
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: lollia paolina on 01 July 2015, 02:36:33
Hi Janet,

my username is written in lowercase so it should be lolliapaolina.
I have tried that variation as well, but did not work.

If they think LolliaPaolina would work best, they can change it that way.

Anyhow, lolliapaolina would be very nice, too :)

Thanks a lot for your help :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Hanibal94 on 01 July 2015, 06:09:56
Just wanted to mention that I have made some new OW rankings, inspired by the ones popzeus did in the days of yore.

You can find them here, (http://forum.oldweather.org/index.php?topic=4363.0) I update once a day in the evenings (German time; UTC+1).
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 01 July 2015, 12:28:07
I am sorry to report the problem is still there: no log in.

I have tried both URLs:

 https://www.zooniverse.org/
http://login.zooniverse.org/

but none of them works.

Silvia, Ed says
Quote
Hi Janet, her account should be repaired.
To clarify she  should be able to login as "lollia paolina" still, and she can update her non-spaced name at her leisure by logging into the main zooniverse.org.

Darren says
Quote
Let us know if this isn't fixed for some reason, Janet. Thanks!!

Do let us know.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: lollia paolina on 01 July 2015, 13:51:52
Thank you all, it seems everything is working fine now :)

I can sign in as lollia paolina and I am very happy about that :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 02 July 2015, 00:27:26
Anybody tried the new Beta interface yet?
Its a bit messy and lacks information but that is why it is being trialed.
I had to annotate the data page with the fields and then it lets you enter data.
I think I made some errors in the row heights and it has come back to haunt me. %^(

Persevering with it for a few days then back to Concord.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Randi on 02 July 2015, 02:37:31
A lot of people have tried it: http://forum.oldweather.org/index.php?topic=4367.0 ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 02 July 2015, 03:00:08
Missed those postings.
I only got OW pages to Annotate.

(Zooniverse only sent me the links on the 1-7-15 so I did not know to look further in the post so soon.)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 02 July 2015, 12:05:39
Vigorous discussion going on, and whole forum invited, whether or not they are on the normal beta test listing.  Glad to have more conversation.  :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 02 July 2015, 13:49:52
This is from NASA's Earth Observatory Facebook entry.
https://www.facebook.com/NASAEarthObservatory/photos/a.10150660751157139.441503.57242657138/10153465461122139/?type=1&theater

Please tell me, does or does not this meteor crater look like Zooniverse logos?   8)

(https://scontent-ord1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xtp1/v/t1.0-9/10404859_10153465461122139_3432914469330542846_n.jpg?oh=fdd2ee4dceed07d60ce528877a00b413&oe=56331453)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Hanibal94 on 02 July 2015, 14:57:56
It sure does - and so does this black hole from the awesome movie Interstellar!

(http://cdn.zmescience.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/maxresdefault.jpg)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 02 July 2015, 15:08:53
 ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Kathy on 02 July 2015, 21:19:25
Interstellar is awesome!
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: JamesAPrattIII on 03 July 2015, 16:56:15
oceannews.com Paul Allen has found the wrecks of the US cruisers Astoria and Vincennes sunk at the battle of Savo island in 1942. Awhile back he found the wreck of the Japanese Battleship Musashi sunk in 1944. Allen in on the hunt for more shipwrecks.

The replica French Frigate L'Hermoine has arrived in New York City for the 4th of July celebration
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 03 July 2015, 17:59:12
To the Americans.
Happy Independence Day America.
From England.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Hanibal94 on 03 July 2015, 18:10:45
Interstellar is awesome!

Oh Yes! It had great characters and story (loved the AI!), amazing music and visual effects, and was just so mind-blowing in general - I wish I had never seen it so I could watch it for the first time again!
In this age of adaptations, prequels, reboots, ripoffs and sequels, (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golden_Raspberry_Award_for_Worst_Prequel,_Remake,_Rip-off_or_Sequel)* it's so great to see someone do a completely new, 100% original blockbuster and succeed critically and commercially.

*: Yes, I know there are some good unoriginal movies around too, like Guardians of the Galaxy, the new Planet of the Apes series and especially Mad Max: Fury Road. But good new stuff is so rare, and that's why I like it so much.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 03 July 2015, 18:18:22
Quote
and especially Mad Max:
One of my friends was a bit part actress in Mad Max and the Thunderdome, she was one of the girls with him at the dome.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Caro on 04 July 2015, 03:26:20
I loved Interstellar too: a '2001: A Space Odyssey' of its time.

Happy Independence Day to US citizens everywhere.  :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: jil on 04 July 2015, 04:17:50
Happy Independence Day America!
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 04 July 2015, 07:12:15
Happy Fourth, USA!!

(http://dromo.co/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/beach-picnic.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/B5aTato.gif)
[/quote]
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Michael on 04 July 2015, 11:51:51
Yes, Happy Birthday, USA!

And, in Australian time where it's already 05 July,

Yes, Happy Birthday, Stuart!

I've dressed the house in rainbow fashion, fired a 21 gun salute with the US flag at the main, and then a seven gun salute with the Pirate Flag at the fore. No-one replied.  :'(
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Hanibal94 on 04 July 2015, 17:01:39
Happy Independence Day!

Anybody else having trouble with the heat? I've been dealing with temperatures of 30 - 37 C this day, and more tomorrow.
Right now, I'm sitting in front of the PC with no shirt on, a wet towel draped over my shoulders, and a fan blowing in my face.
I have to do all that just to make it bearable.

If somebody tells me global warming is a hoax, I'll introduce my fist to their mouth.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 04 July 2015, 17:04:38
Yes they have, Michael, now.  :D

(https://breaaire.files.wordpress.com/2012/04/confetti_canon.gif)  (https://breaaire.files.wordpress.com/2012/04/confetti_canon.gif)  (https://breaaire.files.wordpress.com/2012/04/confetti_canon.gif)  (https://breaaire.files.wordpress.com/2012/04/confetti_canon.gif) 
            (https://breaaire.files.wordpress.com/2012/04/confetti_canon.gif)  (https://breaaire.files.wordpress.com/2012/04/confetti_canon.gif)  (https://breaaire.files.wordpress.com/2012/04/confetti_canon.gif) 

Happy Birthday to you also, Stuart.  :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 04 July 2015, 17:09:22
Happy Independence Day!

Anybody else having trouble with the heat? I've been dealing with temperatures of 30 - 37 C this day, and more tomorrow.
Right now, I'm sitting in front of the PC with no shirt on, a wet towel draped over my shoulders, and a fan blowing in my face.
I have to do all that just to make it bearable.

If somebody tells me global warming is a hoax, I'll introduce my fist to their mouth.

-7c 70km down the road from my place yesterday, -2c here now.

Modified - added picture of the waves on my garage roof.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 04 July 2015, 17:10:58
You're just a winter bunny enjoying us northerners' discomfort.  ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Michael on 04 July 2015, 17:42:05
I guess I can't complain - it has reached only 28.4C so far today. My forecast for tomorrow is 34C, but I'm skeptical.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Dean on 04 July 2015, 19:28:33
Just remember  As Randi once said:


He who goes forth with a fifth on the fourth will not go forth on the fifth.   8)
                     
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Caro on 05 July 2015, 03:33:26
Good morning all and
Happy birthday Stuart

 :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Randi on 05 July 2015, 08:02:08
Happy Birthday
Stuart

(http://img.cakesdecor.com/image/upload/c_limit,h_1000,q_80,w_540/khjwzm6zkbgsmhu0zqwc.jpg)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Helen J on 05 July 2015, 08:39:53
Happy Birthday, Stuart - I hope I'm still in time ....
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Craig on 05 July 2015, 08:50:03
Happy Birthday, Stuart. Nice that you are keeping cool.  ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Randi on 05 July 2015, 09:54:17
Speaking of age...
'World's oldest calendar' discovered in Scottish field (http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-north-east-orkney-shetland-23286928)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Helen J on 05 July 2015, 10:39:37
Speaking of age...
'World's oldest calendar' discovered in Scottish field (http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-north-east-orkney-shetland-23286928)

Great find, Randi!
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Dean on 05 July 2015, 10:57:31
Happy Birthday Stuart!!!
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Hanibal94 on 05 July 2015, 11:10:18
Happy Birthday, Stuart! Have some good cake.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 05 July 2015, 16:28:04
Thanks folks.  :)
I did survive the grog and lovely cake.
Off we go again for another year.  ::)

(I will say, some days I feel like I have been around since the Warren Field calendar was constructed.)    :-\
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: AvastMH on 05 July 2015, 17:32:31
Warren Field calendar eh? - you look like a spring chicken if you're THAT old  ;D ;) ;)

Happy birthday you old salt !!!


(http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/320x240q90/537/tc6NiO.jpg)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Dean on 05 July 2015, 19:43:40
Stuart:

Just remember.......
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: jil on 06 July 2015, 14:42:57
A bit late but... Happy Birthday Stuart!
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 07 July 2015, 05:22:46
An interesting Doodle coming at you soon.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Bob on 08 July 2015, 12:18:42

"A team of astronomers and computer scientists at the University of Hertfordshire have taught a machine to 'see' astronomical images. The technique, which uses a form of artificial intelligence called unsupervised machine learning, allows galaxies to be automatically classified at high speed, something previously done by thousands of human volunteers in projects like Galaxy Zoo."

https://www.ras.org.uk/news-and-press/2659-analysing-galaxy-images-with-artificial-intelligence-astronomers-teach-a-machine-how-to-see

 :o
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: elizabeth on 08 July 2015, 15:59:49

"A team of astronomers and computer scientists at the University of Hertfordshire have taught a machine to 'see' astronomical images. The technique, which uses a form of artificial intelligence called unsupervised machine learning, allows galaxies to be automatically classified at high speed, something previously done by thousands of human volunteers in projects like Galaxy Zoo."

https://www.ras.org.uk/news-and-press/2659-analysing-galaxy-images-with-artificial-intelligence-astronomers-teach-a-machine-how-to-see

 :o
8) 8) 8)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Caro on 08 July 2015, 16:20:22
Hello Liz.  :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Randi on 09 July 2015, 02:05:23
Happy Birthday
Alessandro

(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/cf/d7/8d/cfd78da496e8ae773a8b542fc87e67bd.jpg)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 09 July 2015, 11:09:19
Indeed.  Happy Birthday, little one.  You make your daddy happy.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Hanibal94 on 09 July 2015, 11:37:23
Happy Birthday Alessandro! May it be the first of many.

When you get old, perhaps your dad can add some of your quotes to this: https://instagram.com/livefromsnacktime/
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: propriome on 09 July 2015, 11:45:01
Thank you everyone !!!
(on his behalf of course)
:D :D


Quote
When you get old, perhaps your dad can add some of your quotes to this
Hehehe... will do! ;D ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Caro on 09 July 2015, 12:16:04
A year already?

Tanti auguri, Alessandro

 :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Michael on 09 July 2015, 15:41:43
Indeed!  Happy Birthday Alessandro!
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: propriome on 10 July 2015, 02:57:50
Thank you Caro and Michael!!

Yup it's one year already :o ::)
Sometimes it seems he's been with us forever, sometimes it seems he was born just yesterday... i'm still trying to understand where the trick is :P
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 10 July 2015, 03:36:31
Well winter has arrived in Australia.
Its snowing in ernest the Snowy Mountains thanks to a Low which has travelled all the way from Antarctica. (The term Mountains is used very loosely)
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-07-09/nsw-braces-for-cold-snap-that-may-bring-snow/6607776 (http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-07-09/nsw-braces-for-cold-snap-that-may-bring-snow/6607776)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 10 July 2015, 05:36:55
Stay warm down there. 
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 10 July 2015, 07:00:23
Thanks Janet, it's warm by your winter standard but I have got soft down here.  ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Michael on 10 July 2015, 12:31:42
Thank you Caro and Michael!!

Yup it's one year already :o ::)
Sometimes it seems he's been with us forever, sometimes it seems he was born just yesterday... i'm still trying to understand where the trick is :P

It's called eight hours uninterrupted sleep!
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 10 July 2015, 20:37:52
33 reasons why we can't think clearly about climate change.

Latest New Scientist.

Pity I cannot reproduce them here.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Craig on 11 July 2015, 09:28:56
I'll receive my issue in a couple of weeks after it has been bounced off of Pluto a few times and then put on a slow boat from China. That might be the 34th reason for us Canadians  ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Randi on 14 July 2015, 16:09:55
Welsh government responds in Klingon to UFO airport query (http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-wales-33479808) ::) ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: AvastMH on 14 July 2015, 18:25:34
OK - what happens when the Klingons reply in Romulan?    ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Hanibal94 on 15 July 2015, 02:04:21
Quote from: Darren Millar
"I've always suspected that Labour ministers came from another planet. This response confirms it."

Haha! I love that.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Caro on 15 July 2015, 03:16:53
Hello OW.
Pluto is big news, so I thought you might like to see this visualisation made by our former developer, Stuart Lynn, of New Horizons' journey.
Stuart now works at CartoDB.
http://bl.ocks.org/stuartlynn/raw/11f37f40aa844245163b/
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 15 July 2015, 03:50:23
Neat, the maths used to get New Horizons there is incredible considering the technology levels.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Helen J on 15 July 2015, 12:08:02
Good to see what one of our alumni is up to - and the mission is incredible, especially given when it set off and the technology available at the time. 
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 15 July 2015, 12:26:54
That is so cool a map.  Thanks Caro.  :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Hanibal94 on 15 July 2015, 12:50:39
That's a really great map - and an incredible mission too! I am very impressed.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Thursday Next on 15 July 2015, 13:49:36
I am looking forward to seeing some of the photographs from the fly-by.  Apparently it will take 16 months to transmit all the material back to Earth.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 15 July 2015, 14:13:37
I am completely fascinated by this whole voyage and experience, and looking forward to new pictures trickling in all year long.  It's wonderful.

But this image is just pure fun.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CJ4ejHkUsAAEAnm.jpg)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Thursday Next on 15 July 2015, 15:19:36
 ;D 8)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 15 July 2015, 16:27:13
I am looking forward to seeing some of the photographs from the fly-by.  Apparently it will take 16 months to transmit all the material back to Earth.

See this page for some info as to why it takes so long.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk%3ANew_Horizons/Archive_1#baud_rate (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk%3ANew_Horizons/Archive_1#baud_rate)
Also half way through this article.
http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/new-horizons-emerges-unscathed-from-pluto-flyby/ (http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/new-horizons-emerges-unscathed-from-pluto-flyby/)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 17 July 2015, 04:40:03
Well we had snow today,only the fifth time I have seen it in Bowral in 35 yrs.
Together with that we had a power out for 12hrs and a blown lighting section of my power board.
I now have to get used to a romantic candle night in.

Tried to post 125kb pics (of the snow, not the night in  :o) but they failed security checks ???
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: jil on 17 July 2015, 06:46:28
 :o

Hope you get the lights sorted soon (or not!)

I had a similar problem with a photo and I think Caro suggested using the snipping tool to make a copy. Unfortunately I can't find the discusion to confirm.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 17 July 2015, 07:07:21
I don't remember any discussion, but I've had that problem periodically.  Sometimes re-saving the photo in a different format works (jpg or gif).  Using the snipping tool to copy almost always does work.  I don't know why.

I hope your lights are back on, and the snow gets coped with.  If snow is that rare, drivers won't know how to keep safe, so be careful if you really need to go out.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 17 July 2015, 07:19:14
Try again with only one at a time.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Caro on 17 July 2015, 07:23:55
You got it.  :)

The advice is: 'Restrictions: 4 per post, maximum total size 256KB, maximum individual size 256KB'
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 17 July 2015, 07:26:26
Turned out my size reduction app sometimes does not like NEF files.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: AvastMH on 17 July 2015, 09:40:33
awww - really pretty, Stuart.  :D  It's hot and steamy here - the other day I could have used some of that white stuff :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 17 July 2015, 10:59:31
Stuart, that's the prettiest kind of snow created - wet and sticky enough to trim every branch and twig with sparkling icing, and soft enough to do no damage.  Also perfect for snow ball fights.  Thanks for the picture.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Hanibal94 on 17 July 2015, 13:34:29
I just read an article saying this is the heaviest winter on Australia's east coast in decades.
Oh, and here's a picture taken in Orange, New South Wales:

(http://cdn1.spiegel.de/images/image-874028-galleryV9-zrzg.jpg)

Now there's something you don't see every day!
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Randi on 17 July 2015, 14:13:49
 :o ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: jil on 17 July 2015, 15:08:55
Great pic Stuart and also Hanibal. The kangaroo in the snow does look really weird.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Craig on 17 July 2015, 15:36:49
The kangaroo must think it's pretty weird  too.  :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: AvastMH on 17 July 2015, 16:06:09
I'd be worried about my tail getting frostbite if I were a Roo in that lot  :o :o
Hang on - if I were a Roo in that lot I wouldn't know about frostbite would I?  ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Caro on 18 July 2015, 04:36:01
Australian Navy photo: how awesome is this?  :)

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CKJ_4OaUsAAIaAW.jpg:medium)

@Australian_Navy
HMAS Choules at sea as part of our #workingNavy during Exercise #TalismanSabre
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: elizabeth on 18 July 2015, 06:05:27
Australian Navy photo: how awesome is this?  :)

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CKJ_4OaUsAAIaAW.jpg:medium)

@Australian_Navy
HMAS Choules at sea as part of our #workingNavy during Exercise #TalismanSabre

:o 8) 8) 8)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: AvastMH on 18 July 2015, 07:44:50
That's a really impressive night sky - the milky way is so clear  :D :D :D
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 18 July 2015, 09:10:20
I love that - what a brilliant night sky.  Us northerners have indeed been deprived.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: AvastMH on 19 July 2015, 08:24:26
Hello all. :D  IS anyone else having trouble getting into the 'Talk' Zooniverses please? Can't get into Talk on PenguinWatch, and can't get into Plankton Portal at all (says the sign in system is not working).
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Randi on 19 July 2015, 08:36:51
PenguinWatch:
I get to http://www.penguinwatch.org/ OK, but when I click on Discuss I get http://talk.penguinwatch.org/ with the circle going around, and around, and around, and around, and around, and around, and around

Plankton Portal:
I get a popup that says "It appears we've run out of data!"
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: AvastMH on 19 July 2015, 08:56:15
yep - that little circle's pretty busy today...oh well...I guess someone will spot it soon. Zuzi (yshish) tends to do all that end of things - though she's away for 2 weeks. She always sends off the messages about these problems -I have no idea who they go to. I just have to keep my fingers crossed that Darren will sort it out.  ::)

I think Plankton's been a bit dodgy since they re-did it. Or perhaps they really are out of pre-processed data.

Thanks for checking them Randi!  :) :) :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Caro on 19 July 2015, 09:47:46
I haven't checked all the projects but the three I looked at were 'out of data'.
The old style projects, OW, Solar Stormwatch and Moon Zoo, seem to be OK.
I've tweeted @the_zooniverse.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Hanibal94 on 19 July 2015, 10:19:32
I was able to access Plankton Portal and Penguin Watch just fine - both the projects themselves and the Talk.

Didn't check anything else except Notes from Nature - also working fine.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Caro on 19 July 2015, 10:23:34
Yep. All seems to be OK again. Phew.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Randi on 19 July 2015, 10:48:03
I get PW Talk.
I get to the PW Classify screen with the image but nothing happens when I click. I have never done it, so I do not know what to expect.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 19 July 2015, 10:57:54
Me too - everything is working again, I can get into all the old projects!!  Thanks, Zooniverse HQ!!
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Randi on 19 July 2015, 11:21:52
Is PW really working? I can't mark anything by clicking or by dragging.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Caro on 19 July 2015, 11:32:11
It is, for me. I just counted 11 adults.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 19 July 2015, 11:38:30
If leaving little crosses behind counts, it is working for me.  Got me into Talk also.
Note, this is in my 'old' account, nothing brand new.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: AvastMH on 19 July 2015, 13:14:44
Hi folks! Interesting replies.

Yes Janet - getting a cross onto a peng etc is what happens - so that's fine.

Randi - did you ever get a picture that allowed you to do marking? - I think you need to do the 2 second tutorial first.

Thanks for checking that Hanibal!

I've just been on PW and it's very patchy. classifying looks to be OK, 'talk' sometimes shows the pictures, just now it treated me as someone new and failed to show my collections (THAT was VERY scarey since I've got a huge stack of the things and they are vital for good moderating  :o ) but I went to 'classify' & headed straight back to 'talk' and got everything back working again. My guess is that someone's pounding out IT stuff to back up the project and so we're getting a patchy connection.

Fingers crossed.
THANKS again folks :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Randi on 19 July 2015, 13:45:19
No, Yes, emailing you ::)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Randi on 21 July 2015, 10:26:49
Quote from: The beautiful creatures with a deadly streak - http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-33598219
...but many a ship, including Captain Cook's HMS Endeavour, has foundered as hard coral skeletons, made up of calcium carbonate, have ripped through their wooden hulls.

So dangerous were coral reefs to shipping, that in the 1830s the Beagle, with Charles Darwin on board, was sent to map coral islands in the Pacific to help reduce the damage. Darwin's first book, The Structure and Distribution of Coral Reefs, published in 1842, was on the mechanism of their formation. ...
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: propriome on 23 July 2015, 06:42:26
Next 4th August will be the 225th anniversary of Cape Disappointment CG Station (southern Washington state, close to Oregon border), a commemorative stamp will be issued for one day only :) :

http://www.chinookobserver.com/co/local-news/20150721/commemorative-post-stamp-honoring-us-coast-guards-cape-d-station-coming-soon
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Randi on 23 July 2015, 08:42:16
 8)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: elizabeth on 25 July 2015, 05:50:00
 :) Hello everyone. Just got back on to the new talk thing. Hmmm but that also got me back onto the new bars project. Maybe things are looking up?  ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Randi on 25 July 2015, 07:00:08
 ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: AvastMH on 25 July 2015, 07:50:45
just had a small foray into season spotter. It's FANTASTIC to find that someone is there answering queries from the word go. And there are FAQs already installed.  :D  :D :D
'Collections' are obscure so I left a suggestion to make those more obvious. One thing I've learnt from PW is that collections of images really enable moderators and users to build up an educated picture of the whole project. This improves results and engenders a sense of belonging to the project, building long term experience.   8) :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Craig on 25 July 2015, 13:47:49
Yeah, who knew that penguins could fly.  ;D ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: AvastMH on 25 July 2015, 20:08:21
ah - they have a secret training camp called #Polepuddle ...here's chick taking its first flight....

(http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/480x360q90/540/TSMJth.jpg)


you heard/saw it here first folks!   ;) :D
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 25 July 2015, 20:50:14
 ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Randi on 26 July 2015, 03:25:44
 ;D ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: jil on 26 July 2015, 05:50:09
 ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Hanibal94 on 26 July 2015, 06:08:39
There's video evidence too!

Click here (https://www.youtube.com/embed/9dfWzp7rYR4) - this is from the BBC, so it has to be true... right?
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Caro on 26 July 2015, 06:34:05
Yeah.  :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Randi on 26 July 2015, 08:37:52
A few of you know that I've been doing some work for Penguin Watch....very exciting news..they can fly. Filmed on 1st April - proof from the BBC itself  ;) ;) ;D
https://www.youtube.com/embed/9dfWzp7rYR4

https://www.youtube.com/embed/lzhDsojoqk8 ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: AvastMH on 26 July 2015, 09:16:36
Great fun!  ;D ;D ;D I had forgotten those - thanks Hanibal and Randi. I'm glad to see that the Polepuddle training camp has a great group of students breaking new penguin boundaries  8) 8) ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: studentforever on 26 July 2015, 11:00:06
Another amazing BBC first was the spaghetti harvest, don't know if it is still around but well worth a watch if only for the narration.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Craig on 26 July 2015, 11:14:34
Well, instead of flying I am standing (and not eating fresh spaghetti from my garden  ;D) ... while transcribing OW.

Once again I heard about the ill effects of sitting too much so I rigged up my screen, keypad and mouse on some boxes on top of my desk. This is only a temporary solution, though. They are not exactly at the right height and it would be nice to alternate between standing and sitting. Studies indicate that even if you do an hour of strenuous exercise this is not enough if you just sit around for the rest of the day (if you have that luxury). Apparently we didn't evolve to sit on our buttocks all day. Can you believe that?  :o ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Dean on 26 July 2015, 11:18:00
I've seen desks that raise and lower so you can sit or stand. Also have seen some with a Treadmill so you can walk and work!   :o

I was also told to 'get in shape' - and the person next to me said 'Round is a shape!!'  ::)

What's the other saying?! - Shape up or ship out?!    :P
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Kathy on 26 July 2015, 11:19:02
I just watched the clip on YouTube about the spaghetti harvest in Switzerland - very informative!
 
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Dean on 26 July 2015, 11:24:10
Caution!!
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Craig on 26 July 2015, 11:30:17
Thanks for the warning, Dean.  :D :D :D
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Hanibal94 on 26 July 2015, 11:45:35
Spam, Spam, Spam, Spam, Spammity Spam, Wonderful Spam! (https://www.youtube.com/embed/anwy2MPT5RE)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: jil on 26 July 2015, 12:19:31
 ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 26 July 2015, 20:58:26
I used to like Spam, not so sure now.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Bob on 26 July 2015, 22:43:17
It's apparently very popular in Hawaii.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 27 July 2015, 01:54:56
It's apparently very popular in Hawaii.

Easy to ship by boat from the mainland without spoilage, and requires no large chunk of land for hog farms on those rather small somewhat mountainous islands.  Pastures and land for animal farms is really hard to come by there.  :)

It really isn't all that mysterious, only the sodium nitrate preservative is artificial, and it comes now in "Spam Lite", pork fat replaced by lean chicken.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Hanibal94 on 27 July 2015, 04:07:56
How about Guam?



Spam, not the email but the "meat product," is generally considered in the United States to be something that should be eaten in trailer parks by people who only have a hot plate to cook with. In Guam, it's the national past time.

(http://i.crackedcdn.com/phpimages/article/5/6/5/36565.jpg?v=1)

It is somehow considered a part of Guam's traditional native cooking, despite only being invented about 70 years ago, with an average of 16 cans per year (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spam_%28food%29#Guam_and_the_Northern_Marianas) consumed by every man, woman, and child on the island.

(http://i.crackedcdn.com/phpimages/article/5/6/6/36566.jpg?v=1)
Hawaii does things like this with spam, and they only consume 6 cans per person.

You'd think there must be a story behind that, and there is. Spam's very cheapness made it an ideal military ration during World War II, where U.S. troops stationed in Guam and other Pacific Islands were sometimes forced to eat it for three meals a day.

(http://i.crackedcdn.com/phpimages/article/5/6/7/36567.jpg?v=1)
War is hell.

The Guamanians snapped up the habit, because they weren't exactly stinking rich during the war either. But once the war was over, the American soldiers went home and probably vowed to never look at another can of Spam again, while the people of Guam didn't really have a native Guam diet to go back to.

(http://i.crackedcdn.com/phpimages/article/5/6/8/36568.jpg?v=1)
This is the native diet.

You see, Guam has been occupied by one colonial power or another continuously over the past 400 years, to the point that no one's completely sure what "authentic Guam culture" even is anymore (http://decolonizeguam.blogspot.de/2009/01/guam-struggles-to-find-its-roots-from.html). Even the most touted "native Guam dishes" are Filipino.

(http://i.crackedcdn.com/phpimages/article/5/6/9/36569.jpg?v=1)
Like red rice, which appears to be the rice version of Spam.

So even if they dumped American-influenced foods like Spam, they don't exactly have any "keepin' it real" food to replace it with.
And Spam is the gift that keeps on giving. The Spam diet, along with other American-influenced food, is at least partially responsible for a high rate of cardiovascular problems in Guam, with 60% of deaths there coming from bad diet and lifestyle1.

(http://i.crackedcdn.com/phpimages/article/5/7/0/36570.jpg?v=1)
Even their judo champions are huge.

Next war, maybe we should just get them some socks.



Taken from Cracked.com, "7 Things From America That Are Insanely Popular Overseas", No.5 on the list.

1 -> I have heard that other pacific islands are affected too, but I can't remember the names.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Randi on 27 July 2015, 17:16:37
Global warming 'hiatus' just an artifact, study finds
Skewed data hid rapid temperature increase of most recent decades
Quote from: Science News - June 4, 2015
The biggest bias concerned ocean surface temperatures. Before World War II, sailors would scoop a bucket of seawater and take the water's temperature. Evaporation would cool the water as the bucket sat on deck, leading to artificially cool temperature readings. Later, the preferred method shifted to measuring the temperature of seawater pumped in to cool the ship's hot engine, giving artificially warm measurements.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: JamesAPrattIII on 27 July 2015, 17:38:48
The World War 1 Historical association is having there annual symposium in Lisle Ill on 2-3 October 2015. see there site for more details ww1ha.org
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Michael on 27 July 2015, 19:11:49
Global warming 'hiatus' just an artifact, study finds
Skewed data hid rapid temperature increase of most recent decades
Quote from: Science News - June 4, 2015
The biggest bias concerned ocean surface temperatures. Before World War II, sailors would scoop a bucket of seawater and take the water's temperature. Evaporation would cool the water as the bucket sat on deck, leading to artificially cool temperature readings. Later, the preferred method shifted to measuring the temperature of seawater pumped in to cool the ship's hot engine, giving artificially warm measurements.

I have read, a long while ago, that "they" can correct for these things. One also gets different readings if one uses a wooden bucket, a metal bucket and/or a canvas bag. (It depended on the year and the navy as to what was used when.) If I remember correctly, the water temperature is measured as it comes into the ship before it is used to cool the engines, but the water taken is not at the surface of the water, but considerably below that. I'm sure Philip can bring us up to date on this subject. Nevertheless, there are many papers written on the subject and I'm sure that there has been more than one master's thesis generated by considering such questions and all the implications.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Craig on 27 July 2015, 21:15:44
It seems that the main cause of the apparent slowing of global surface temperature increase over the last 15 years or so was that Arctic temperatures were poorly represented. Temperatures in that region have been increasing faster than elsewhere so not taking account of this fact understates the global increase. The new study adjusted for this bias and the slowdown disappears.
 http://www.carbonbrief.org/blog/2013/11/not-so-slow-%E2%80%9Cslowdown%E2%80%9D-new-paper-says-warming-in-last-17-years-may-be-double-what-scientists-thought/



Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 27 July 2015, 22:15:06
Global warming 'hiatus' just an artifact, study finds
Skewed data hid rapid temperature increase of most recent decades
Quote from: Science News - June 4, 2015
The biggest bias concerned ocean surface temperatures. Before World War II, sailors would scoop a bucket of seawater and take the water's temperature. Evaporation would cool the water as the bucket sat on deck, leading to artificially cool temperature readings. Later, the preferred method shifted to measuring the temperature of seawater pumped in to cool the ship's hot engine, giving artificially warm measurements.

I have read, a long while ago, that "they" can correct for these things. One also gets different readings if one uses a wooden bucket, a metal bucket and/or a canvas bag. (It depended on the year and the navy as to what was used when.) If I remember correctly, the water temperature is measured as it comes into the ship before it is used to cool the engines, but the water taken is not at the surface of the water, but considerably below that. I'm sure Philip can bring us up to date on this subject. Nevertheless, there are many papers written on the subject and I'm sure that there has been more than one master's thesis generated by considering such questions and all the implications.

That's assuming they recorded what kind of bucket and how long between scooping and measuring.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Maikel on 28 July 2015, 14:50:50
The release of Windows 10 is imminent.

Today the Dutch consumers' association Consumentenbond has warned for privacy problems.
The article in Dutch: http://www.consumentenbond.nl/actueel/nieuws/2015/windows-10-vist-volop-naar-privegegevens/ (http://www.consumentenbond.nl/actueel/nieuws/2015/windows-10-vist-volop-naar-privegegevens/)

A summary for those view who don't read Dutch. ;)

By default:
- the personal assistant Cortana sends every typed word, and every spoken word, to Microsoft to "better learn the user"
- every visited webpage will be send to Microsoft for security analysis
- stored wifi passwords can be shared easily with social media "friends"
- all installed apps and programs are allowed to read the user's unique ad-ID
- your location is recorded continuously and shared, including it's history, amongst the installed apps and programs
- apps know the user's details instantly if the user is logged in at Microsoft

If you value your privacy you should not install Windows 10 with default values.

Did you also know you can't choose to be notified of updates?
All updates will automatically be downloaded, you'll have no choice.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Thursday Next on 28 July 2015, 15:29:30
Thanks, Maikel - I will have to remember to adjust the privacy settings when I get Windows 10.  I wasn't planning to get it straight away - thought I'd wait a few months for the teething troubles to be sorted out first!
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: studentforever on 28 July 2015, 15:31:48
Wonderful! Big Brother has arrived and I will need to buy a new device soon. Anyway, they are threatening to stop supporting Windows 7 in a year or two.

I sometimes think that all this technology is more trouble that it's worth. I console myself with the indigestible quantities of data generated by Hanibal & other leading transcribers - hope Cortana gets the digital equivalent of stomach ache. Thanks for the warning.

My trouble is that I've always used PCs rather than Apple and I'm dubious about changing mindsets now. On-line banking will be OFF for one thing and have you any tips about account numbers and PINs in the Big Brother world.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Hanibal94 on 28 July 2015, 15:36:33
I wasn't planning to get it straight away - thought I'd wait a few months for the teething troubles to be sorted out first!

Smart move - I'll do that too.

Plus, by that point instructions on how to protect your privacy should have turned up somewhere on the Internet. I will definitely look for those.
Did the Consumentenbond say anything about how to change the default values, Maikel?

EDIT: I just did some quick googling, and found this: http://lifehacker.com/how-to-configure-windows-10-to-protect-your-privacy-1716204024
Please note that most of these tips are based on Windows 8 - while most stuff will probably still have the same names, it could be slightly different, they say.
Also, this: http://www.neowin.net/news/microsoft-adds-more-privacy-options-in-windows-10-preview-build-10061

I'll let you all know when I get it. Then, anybody with problems can PM me and I'll do what I can to help out. But please ask Google first.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Thursday Next on 28 July 2015, 15:45:18
Wonderful! Big Brother has arrived and I will need to buy a new device soon. Anyway, they are threatening to stop supporting Windows 7 in a year or two.

I sometimes think that all this technology is more trouble that it's worth. I console myself with the indigestible quantities of data generated by Hanibal & other leading transcribers - hope Cortana gets the digital equivalent of stomach ache. Thanks for the warning.

My trouble is that I've always used PCs rather than Apple and I'm dubious about changing mindsets now. On-line banking will be OFF for one thing and have you any tips about account numbers and PINs in the Big Brother world.

Rosemary, I've just started a course on FutureLearn - Introduction to Cyber Security https://www.futurelearn.com/  I had feared it might be very heavy going and difficult to understand, but three weeks in I'm finding it really useful and interesting.  It's run by the Open University and their courses are always really well presented, though I don't know if it will answer your specific questions.  It's about 2 or 3 hours a week (8 weeks) and is free of charge, though you can actually work at your own pace and you can just dip in and out if you want.  It's running again in October if it's of any interest to you.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 28 July 2015, 16:13:28
I was offered an update by my AVG anti-virus for an update to protect me from Windows 10.  I ignored it, because I won't sign up to install the new on my old computer.  I think now I'll get it anyway to protect myself from everyone else's Windows10.

I do think Chrome Translate got the meaning of your Dutch paragraph perfectly translated for a change - it was more accurate than Hanibal's English sites.
Quote
http://www.consumentenbond.nl/actueel/nieuws/2015/windows-10-vist-volop-naar-privegegevens/
Consumers who are not very fond of their privacy, Windows 10 better with the recommended default install on their computers. This enables the Consumers' which tried out the new OS. The default installation will also put a clear set of Internet applications on the PC that can access a lot of personal data.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Craig on 28 July 2015, 18:41:12
Wonderful! Big Brother has arrived and I will need to buy a new device soon. Anyway, they are threatening to stop supporting Windows 7 in a year or two.

I am still running my XP machine with zero support from Microsoft. Of course, all it does is BOINC so I have nothing to lose. I run Malware bytes to keep the viruses in check.

I will probably run W8 if they stop supporting W7, although I will have to find a copy soon. If I can't get W8 I will switch to Mac.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Maikel on 29 July 2015, 02:45:58
Did the Consumentenbond say anything about how to change the default values, Maikel?

Yes, follow the link "Stappenplan" (styp-by-stap plan).
All in Dutch of course, including the accompanying images.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 29 July 2015, 03:13:21
Single of Double Dutch?
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Caro on 29 July 2015, 03:14:55
Advice from the web.

It's easy to recommend Windows 10 as an upgrade for anyone on Windows 7 and Windows 8, but maybe not just yet. "Wait for service pack 1" has always been the default advice for new versions and Windows, and it absolutely applies here. During my testing on a variety of hardware, I've run into a lot of bugs and issues - even with the version that will be released to consumers on launch day.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Randi on 29 July 2015, 07:47:38
Sounds like good advice to me - especially with all the privacy issues.
I've long ceased to be in a hurry to upgrade.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 29 July 2015, 08:11:26
"If it ain't broke, don't fix it."

Waiting for Service Pack 1 and then using the Stappenplan sounds perfect.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Randi on 29 July 2015, 08:25:52
"If it ain't broke, it doesn't have enough features." ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 29 July 2015, 08:40:37
There is that. ::) ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Maikel on 29 July 2015, 09:09:17
You'll be waiting indefinitely for a service pack.
Windows 10 policy: continuous updates, hourly if necessary, no more service packs.

Still, waiting while the dust settles is sound advise.
I know I will. :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Randi on 29 July 2015, 09:40:48
(http://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/660/cpsprodpb/14375/production/_84450828_eagle1991-003.jpg)
Quote from: http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-33543706
The Eagle was built by the Nazis and fought for Hitler in World War Two - so how did a tall ship that once flew the swastika end up as a training vessel for new US Coast Guard Academy cadets?
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Thursday Next on 29 July 2015, 11:47:33
I just came across that item on the BBC website, but I thought someone would probably have beaten me to it by now!  It's a fascinating article with some wonderful old photographs, such as this one:
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 29 July 2015, 11:57:17
Wonderful.  I'd heard of the Eagle and knew she was a 'modern' tall ship.  But I did not know her history.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Caro on 30 July 2015, 04:06:17
Caution thrown to the wind! Windows 10 installed, privacy settings adjusted, all systems go.  :o
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 30 July 2015, 04:18:10
Sorry Caro did not get that post are you sure win 10 works?  ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Caro on 30 July 2015, 04:19:14
I'm talking to you so yes, fairly sure.  ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Hanibal94 on 30 July 2015, 07:11:06
Caution thrown to the wind! Windows 10 installed, privacy settings adjusted, all systems go.  :o

What a brave soul you are! Good luck, and please do let us all know what happens.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 30 July 2015, 07:35:13
Caution thrown to the wind! Windows 10 installed, privacy settings adjusted, all systems go.  :o

How did you get it so early?
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Randi on 30 July 2015, 07:38:59
Caution thrown to the wind! Windows 10 installed, privacy settings adjusted, all systems go.  :o

What a brave soul you are! Good luck, and please do let us all know what happens.

I'm sure she will - possibly provided that she can find someone who hasn't installed it yet to post the message ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: HatterJack on 30 July 2015, 10:01:32
So, I'm working on this page, and the final note is a discharge notice for one C.D. Hall after his term of service expired. I've always prided myself on the depth of my knowledge of all things naval (my family has a naval/marine tradition going back at least to the foundation of the Royal Navy, and probably goes further than that), but I've never seen this rank abbreviation before. W.Rs, if I'm reading it right? Any thoughts?

http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Albatross/vol016of055/vol016of055_119_1.jpg
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 30 July 2015, 10:07:08
Caution thrown to the wind! Windows 10 installed, privacy settings adjusted, all systems go.  :o

How did you get it so early?

A lot of us got little white window icons on our task bar a month or so ago, clicking on it and following through gave them permission to send you the download as soon as they could.  I'm the only one too chicken to have taken them up on the invitation, and as I have an old computer I would be at the end of the list anyway. 

Thanks Caro for being a pioneer - I'll jump in if it doesn't eat you.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Maikel on 30 July 2015, 10:17:10
So, I'm working on this page, and the final note is a discharge notice for one C.D. Hall after his term of service expired. I've always prided myself on the depth of my knowledge of all things naval (my family has a naval/marine tradition going back at least to the foundation of the Royal Navy, and probably goes further than that), but I've never seen this rank abbreviation before. W.Rs, if I'm reading it right? Any thoughts?

http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Albatross/vol016of055/vol016of055_119_1.jpg

W.R.S. - Wardroom Steward.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 30 July 2015, 10:23:40
So, I'm working on this page, and the final note is a discharge notice for one C.D. Hall after his term of service expired. I've always prided myself on the depth of my knowledge of all things naval (my family has a naval/marine tradition going back at least to the foundation of the Royal Navy, and probably goes further than that), but I've never seen this rank abbreviation before. W.Rs, if I'm reading it right? Any thoughts?

http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Albatross/vol016of055/vol016of055_119_1.jpg

Maikel got it ahead of me.  We have a reference post "Helpful Links to Outside Information" at our Library/Reference Desk board that includes "Compilation of Enlisted Ratings and Apprenticeships, U.S. Navy, 1775 to 1969" from NHHC.  Very helpful for these things.
http://www.history.navy.mil/research/library/online-reading-room/title-list-alphabetically/c/enlisted-ratings-in-u-s-navy-1775-1969.html

And welcome to exploring English, the common language that divides us.  Trust me, terms and abbreviations in the RN and USN are not necessarily the same, just like 'lift' and 'elevator' for the same machine.  ;)

Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Caro on 30 July 2015, 11:02:42
Caution thrown to the wind! Windows 10 installed, privacy settings adjusted, all systems go.  :o

How did you get it so early?

I clicked that little white icon long ago and registered for the download.
Installation was no problem; it took about 45 minutes in total.
So far, it's working just fine. I have no complaints.
I would say it's like Windows 7; much better than 8 or 8.1. Recommended.   ;)


Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Thursday Next on 30 July 2015, 14:39:48
I'm glad to hear it's working well, Caro (so far).  I still think I'll hang on for a bit, though.  I notice the little icon has gone from my taskbar, but I assume I will still be able to get it from the website when I feel brave enough!
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 30 July 2015, 14:49:09
I'm glad to hear it's working well, Caro (so far).  I still think I'll hang on for a bit, though.  I notice the little icon has gone from my taskbar, but I assume I will still be able to get it from the website when I feel brave enough!

The local news story here about the launch said Win7 and Win8 users have a year to collect their upgrade for free.  I figure, if I do it before Christmas it'll still work.  All older system users have to pay.

I'm thinking they are desperate to give Win8 users a quick escape so they stop complaining, and Win7 users a bribe to get enough of them out to be able cut off support for that.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 30 July 2015, 17:03:36
Win 10.
I registered a long time ago.
I think they have forgotten Australia.
Maybe they got something right.   ::)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 30 July 2015, 17:43:00
How old is your computer?  Local news reports says, MS is sending these downloads out in order of computer age.  They want to do all the newest computers first.

My theory is that they want to satisfy the newest complaints about Win8 first and/or they want to do this beta test for bugs on the computers with the least number of possible conflicts before taking on more.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: AvastMH on 30 July 2015, 19:07:04
How old is my computer? I  can't remember - but I do recall Windows 2.1, ::)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Randi on 31 July 2015, 02:21:42
I recall CP/M and DOS ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Maikel on 31 July 2015, 04:06:02
Another Windows 10 setting you might want to have a look at.
By default Windows 10 is using your Internet connection to distribute Windows updates and apps to other users.

If you have a limited bandwidth, or simply don't want to share, you'd better switch this option off.

http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-10/windows-update-delivery-optimization-faq (http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-10/windows-update-delivery-optimization-faq)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Randi on 31 July 2015, 06:05:09
Thanks!
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: elizabeth on 31 July 2015, 06:16:04
 ;D ;D Ok here LOL I was just the other day telling my son I need a new up to date computer. The one I have been using here is his old computer about .....10 years old here. The hard drive he carried out of the fire. Still works amazing!  ::) ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Craig on 31 July 2015, 06:58:01
Here's the worst drawback of W10. I definitely won't upgrade  ;D

https://ca.news.yahoo.com/windows-10-microsoft-making-users-112929321.html#gECa3lX
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 31 July 2015, 07:16:42
Here's the worst drawback of W10. I definitely won't upgrade  ;D

https://ca.news.yahoo.com/windows-10-microsoft-making-users-112929321.html#gECa3lX
Not a problem - I have a better solitaire game as a free app for my Chrome Browser.  Pfffft to MS's ads.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: propriome on 31 July 2015, 17:12:49
Will be away for a little (a month more or less)... time for some vacation at last!

Therefore:

Happy Summer Holidays to everyone and everybody!

See you all soon :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Caro on 31 July 2015, 17:15:54
Have fun, Matteo and family!
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Michael on 31 July 2015, 17:17:56
Enjoy the break, Matteo! You deserve it.  :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 31 July 2015, 19:59:23
Have a lovely vacation, Matteo, and enjoy!

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/liHqoWOmTN8OVUNairLel64O0eS5Z100ZVNDbfSRFJk=w170-h212-p-no)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Randi on 01 August 2015, 02:24:03
Have a great vacation, Matteo!
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 02 August 2015, 03:19:30
How old is your computer?  Local news reports says, MS is sending these downloads out in order of computer age.  They want to do all the newest computers first.

My theory is that they want to satisfy the newest complaints about Win8 first and/or they want to do this beta test for bugs on the computers with the least number of possible conflicts before taking on more.

Hi Janet.
Back from weekend leave.
The PC is 1 month old.
Well i purchased it one month ago, it was made 7 months ago.
Registered my Win 7 PC many months ago and this one when I git it.
I will read more in OW before running the update when I get it.


Have a great vacation Matteo.
Hope we can fix Win 10 before you get back. (You may need to take a loooong vacation for that to happen.)  %^)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 03 August 2015, 16:04:25
Funny thing is weather.
2 weeks ago we had snow in the Blue Mountains, now we have Bushfires in the same place.   :o

-3C at home this morning, not counting wind chill. Down to -8C in places within 100km radius.

Snow in the city of Hobart, usually only on the top of Mt Wellington.

Cold weather down under, enjoy your Autumn up over.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 03 August 2015, 16:26:28
It sounds like your weather is as poorly distributed as ours.  In N.Am, we are losing farm land to drought and woods to fire, while in the Midwest farmers are losing the corn to excessive rain and flooding.  Not a good year at all.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: studentforever on 04 August 2015, 00:46:11
In Scotland we've had nearly twice the usual amount of rain (not negligible anyway) and hardly any days above 18C. I have a feeling that it's going to feel like a long winter (about 18 months).  :'(
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: jil on 04 August 2015, 11:42:38
For those in the UK, on Channel 4 tonight at 9pm - Hunt for the Arctic Ghost Ship (http://www.channel4.com/programmes/hunt-for-the-arctic-ghost-ship) (may be available outside the UK on internet?)

'The exclusive story of the hunt for HMS Erebus that was lost in 1845 while searching for the North West Passage'
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 04 August 2015, 15:09:55
For those in the UK, on Channel 4 tonight at 9pm - Hunt for the Arctic Ghost Ship (http://www.channel4.com/programmes/hunt-for-the-arctic-ghost-ship) (may be available outside the UK on internet?)

'The exclusive story of the hunt for HMS Erebus that was lost in 1845 while searching for the North West Passage'

I will keep an eye out for in a few weeks time.
I am cruising the North West Passage, west coast Greenland and then roughly on the route that Franklin took but I think we go higher than where they found the Erebus unless the ice prevents us then we go southward past the Erebus area.
Also reading on Kindle, North with Franklin: The Lost Journals Of James Fitzjames by John Wilson and In the Kingdom of Ice by Hampton Sides.

The C4 show comes on in 1hrs time.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 04 August 2015, 16:11:07
What lovely reading to take along.  :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: jil on 05 August 2015, 02:57:41
Enjoy the cruise, Stuart! The Hampton Sides book is excellent.

I also enjoyed Arctic Labyrinth: the quest for the northwest passage by Glyn Williams, if you've not come across that one.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 05 August 2015, 04:53:53
Just watched the Hunt for the Arctic Ghost Ship.

Very interesting.

Thanks Jil for the tip to watch it and the book suggestion.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: HatterJack on 05 August 2015, 08:18:47
Almost think I should open a thread for this particular topic, but I dunno, I'll leave that up to our wonderful mods. Some interesting ship history from our ship's logs!

December 1, 1887, from the log of the Albatross.

http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Albatross/vol016of055/vol016of055_159_1.jpg

Three ships sighted, all three listed in the log as British steamers, the Esk, the Curtis Bay, and the Bermuda. HISTORY TIME!

I can't find any record of any vessel called the Curtis Bay having operated in the Caribbean, and given that the name is a reference to a tidal inlet of the Patapsco River, where it flows into Chesapeake Bay, which (to me) implies that the ship was, at one time, an American vessel sold to a British company (or simply a Canadian vessel) prior to its being spotted by the Albatross.

The Esk, has a bit of a history, although it's a bit muddy, thanks to the passage of time. It was originally built in 1877 as a British Medina class gunship, by Palmers in Jarrow. It appears to have served in the Caribbean as a training vessel for some time, before joining her sister ship (HMS Tweed) in operations in Hong Kong in 1890, until it was sold there in 1903.

The Bermuda on the other hand, to naval historians, was actually quite the surprise to see here. Unofficially, this is *that* Bermuda. Formerly the Confederate States USS Bermuda, arguably the most successful Confederate blockade runner, despite her size. I won't go too into detail here, but after her capture by the Union Navy, she wound up as a transport ship supporting the blockades she was originally built to break through. Eventually, she was sold (on the same day as her decommissioning no less), and wound up as a merchant cargo ship until she was reported sunk in 1882 under the name Bahamas. And this is where things get rather strange. In April of 1882, two months (I'm not clear on the actual day precisely, but she foundered on February 10 according to her official record, which actually ends on that date) or so after being written off, there is a listing of a salvaged ship bearing the name Bermuda being purchased by a Canadian transport company, having been purchased from one Samuel Cook (the owner of the very same Bermuda that was reported wrecked). This ship, however, was listed as having been purchased by Mister Cook in 1870, rather than 1865 (when she was decommissioned and purchased from the Union Navy). It also has absolutely no record of having been in St. Lucia during the 1880's at all, so it's hard to say whether this is, in actuality, the same Bermuda (with faulty or falsified records), or just a strange coincidence of having a ship of roughly the same size, salvaged and purchased from the first civilian owner, with the same name. Either way, the USS Bermuda had a pretty interesting (and ironic) history, so if it turns out that she actually as the very same vessel, it's still a fascinating bit of history.

Also, for those who aren't in the know, the Royal Canadian Navy would have still been flying the Union Jack, as it didn't adopt it's own flag and ensign (the iconic maple leaf flag) until 1965, after the "Great Canadian Flag Debate" of 1863-1864, so having ships listed as British steamers when they realistically could have been pretty much any part of the Commonwealth at the time isn't very surprising.

I know we're all here for the weather, but the history is just... so cool. Sue me. Actually, please don't, I'm poor.  ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Randi on 05 August 2015, 08:57:24
I also get carried away with what I find on some of the log pages ;D

Albatross (1884) -- Discussion: Questions and Comments - would be a good place to put it.
or you could create a topic in
The Voyages, The Work, The People: Everyday Life at Sea
or you could do both - you can always have it in one place and have links to it.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: HatterJack on 05 August 2015, 09:02:47
I may do that (the both option) in the future, as I'm pretty sure there's going to be some more interesting history coming our way (especially the way I kind of go crazy digging into the information), and the Albatross isn't going to be my last ship, I'm fairly certain.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Caro on 05 August 2015, 12:36:58
A bit off-topic here but this is amazing:

https://www.nasa.gov/feature/goddard/from-a-million-miles-away-nasa-camera-shows-moon-crossing-face-of-earth

(https://www.nasa.gov/sites/default/files/styles/full_width/public/thumbnails/image/dscovrepicmoontransitfull.gif?itok=m-pCEXqi)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Randi on 05 August 2015, 12:39:27
 8) 8) 8)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 05 August 2015, 12:40:41
That is so cool!!!! :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Bob on 05 August 2015, 13:15:24
That's the 'dark' side of the moon!  8)

Edit: Which the article points out, after taking ten minutes to load. I think this thing is breaking the internet!  :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: AvastMH on 05 August 2015, 15:05:48
I may do that (the both option) in the future, as I'm pretty sure there's going to be some more interesting history coming our way (especially the way I kind of go crazy digging into the information), and the Albatross isn't going to be my last ship, I'm fairly certain.

That's a fascinating story Hatterjack!  :D It amazes me how much ships change hands. I seem to recall, and this might have come out of a programme about the Marie Celeste, that they change names in order to make insurance claims for a 'lost' boat. With the number of changes going on it becomes easier to imagine that such a scam might be easier than one might think. Just a passing thought.  :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 05 August 2015, 15:56:07
Almost think I should open a thread for this particular topic, but I dunno, I'll leave that up to our wonderful mods. Some interesting ship history from our ship's logs!
Another history buff - wonderful!!  Randi is right, both Albatross and The Voyages, The Work, The People: Everyday Life at Sea topics work - I tend to open the second topic in another tab and copy/paste the first write up.  Pasting the first link also works.  :)

I can't find any record of any vessel called the Curtis Bay having operated in the Caribbean, and given that the name is a reference to a tidal inlet of the Patapsco River, where it flows into Chesapeake Bay, which (to me) implies that the ship was, at one time, an American vessel sold to a British company (or simply a Canadian vessel) prior to its being spotted by the Albatross.
Curtis Bay is also the name of a Coast Guard Navy Yard.  More likely a US ship rather than Canadian.

...Formerly the Confederate States CSS Bermuda, arguably the most successful Confederate blockade runner, despite her size. ...
The 'C' instead of 'U' still matters in the states, especially in the south, altho she did get changed over to USS later.  Absolutely fascinating reading.  I'm thinking like you, someone collected falsely on a faked wreck, then changed the dates when he sold the "wrecked" ship so they wouldn't find it listed in any registers they opened to check. 

I know we're all here for the weather, but the history is just... so cool. Sue me. Actually, please don't, I'm poor.  ;)
I love reading this too much to even consider suing.  :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Caro on 05 August 2015, 16:48:25
The only mention I can find of SS Curtis Bay is from the arrivals column in the NY Times of February 27, 1883.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: JamesAPrattIII on 05 August 2015, 19:18:13
2-3 October 2015 there will be a Symposium in Lisle Ill. put on by the World War I Historical Association see www.ww1ha.org for details. It based on the year 1915
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 05 August 2015, 19:32:59
2-3 October 2015 there will be a Symposium in Lisle Ill. put on by the World War I Historical Association see www.ww1ha.org for details. It based on the year 1915

That's in my backyard!!  A bit too pricey, given I'm not a real historian or war tactics fan.  I'm wondering if they know about us, tho.  I'm thinking it over.  :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Michael on 05 August 2015, 22:09:08
2-3 October 2015 there will be a Symposium in Lisle Ill. put on by the World War I Historical Association see www.ww1ha.org for details. It based on the year 1915

That's in my backyard!!  A bit too pricey, given I'm not a real historian or war tactics fan.  I'm wondering if they know about us, tho.  I'm thinking it over.  :)

You could crowd fund, Janet.  ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 05 August 2015, 22:59:20
A thought.  :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 06 August 2015, 17:36:26
To mis-quote Python.

Don't mention the Cricket. 

  ???  :o   :-[   >:(
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Caro on 07 August 2015, 03:55:40
What cricket?
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: HatterJack on 07 August 2015, 04:08:03
Isn't that a Fawlty Towers reference and not Python?
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Hanibal94 on 07 August 2015, 04:14:43
Whatever it is, could someone please explain? I don't get it at all.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Caro on 07 August 2015, 04:28:15
Quote
"The Germans" is the sixth episode of the BBC sitcom Fawlty Towers. It is remembered for its line "Don't mention the war" ...

 ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 07 August 2015, 06:48:26
Correct HatterJack, I made a mistake Python Faulty Towers.  Sorry.

I am not going to mentioning the AU 'v' UK cricket farce.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: HatterJack on 07 August 2015, 07:51:53
Honestly, it's an easy mistake to make if you're not a rabid fan of either. They both have John Cleese being his majestic self.

And... I don't follow cricket, so I didn't know that there was an AU v. UK thing. Now you have my curiosity piqued.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Caro on 07 August 2015, 08:03:39
That's OK HatterJack. It's only been going on for 130+ years. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Ashes
 ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 07 August 2015, 09:14:48
And at that point, I must ask if Caro is backing her native Australia or her current home in England.  ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Caro on 07 August 2015, 10:39:56
Both. ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 07 August 2015, 17:36:32
Both. ;D

I can do that as well.
Made in England, Lobotomised Naturalised Resident of Australia.

Go the Winners.   ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Hanibal94 on 07 August 2015, 17:41:59
Ah, I see - so this is a friendly-rivalry sports thing that has been going on for ages between two teams, like the OxBridge boat race.
Got it.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 07 August 2015, 17:58:07
Ah, I see - so this is a friendly-rivalry sports thing that has been going on for ages between two teams, like the OxBridge boat race.
Got it.

One of the teams did not do very well in the first innings of the first day of the 4th test.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 09 August 2015, 03:20:19
Anybody got a Sandwich to spare.
Concord 24 Mar 1904
F to Sqd W.W. "To Ward Room Mess.-We are short of sandwiches, can you help out and make about one hundred small ones of ham, chicken, or beef.  Sig. Andrews."
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Hanibal94 on 09 August 2015, 03:50:02
I found a useful recipe (https://www.youtube.com/embed/aYAGB11YrSs). Will that help?
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: jil on 09 August 2015, 05:48:48
 ;D ;D ;D
No vege option?
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 09 August 2015, 06:03:12
I found a useful recipe (https://www.youtube.com/embed/aYAGB11YrSs). Will that help?

ROTFL
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 09 August 2015, 12:24:59
 ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 09 August 2015, 18:05:46
Concord punishments.  8 - mer  ???
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Concord/vol033of040/vol033of040_073_1.jpg (http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Concord/vol033of040/vol033of040_073_1.jpg)
This is not the first time the list has been almost this long, they just do not learn.  :-[
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Hanibal94 on 10 August 2015, 02:27:47
;D ;D ;D
No vege option?

Nope - 'fraid not.
One thing I find amusing is that the engineer (guy in hard hat and glasses) can make sentry guns, force shields and many other things... but he can't make sandwiches.
(These guys are characters from the video game Team Fortress 2 - that's how I know one of them's an engineer, and the other's a heavy weapons guy)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: AvastMH on 10 August 2015, 09:39:09
Odd - they look like they've got muscles to match Popeye's. Sure they're not sneaking spinach sandwiches on the quiet?  ;) ;) :D
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Hanibal94 on 10 August 2015, 12:37:47
Probably not - I did some Googling serious research, and found that the recipe does not have spinach:

http://www.gourmetgaming.co.uk/post/9637230473/team-fortress-2-sandvich-edible-device-many
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Randi on 11 August 2015, 02:23:55
HMS Hood's bell recovered from seabed (http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-33853847)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Dean on 11 August 2015, 16:20:25
HMS Hood's bell recovered from seabed (http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-33853847)

WOW!! What a Treasure!!

I did edits for HMS HOOD.  Is there anyway we could 'tag' this video to the Edits at Naval_History?!
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: JamesAPrattIII on 11 August 2015, 17:05:24
One of the ships we did the logs for the M33 has been restored and is open to the public according to the great war forum.

Iceblink is a book on the Franklin expedition.

It's too bad you can't go to Syposium JJ the speakers at these events really know there stuff. Sometimes the presentations are put on youtube at later dates. They should know about this site it has been mentioned on the Great war forum over the years.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 11 August 2015, 18:55:48
HMS Hood's bell recovered from seabed (http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-33853847)

WOW!! What a Treasure!!

I did edits for HMS HOOD.  Is there anyway we could 'tag' this video to the Edits at Naval_History?!

Adding that is up to Maikel, but for sure we would have to have some kind of archive or museum link that would be less ephemeral as an url to a current news article.  Maybe see if you can get a link to it for the finale of the log, after it is museum installed?
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Maikel on 12 August 2015, 02:52:32
One of the ships we did the logs for the M33 has been restored and is open to the public according to the great war forum.

https://twitter.com/JourneyPlotter/status/624499868413894656 (https://twitter.com/JourneyPlotter/status/624499868413894656)
https://twitter.com/JourneyPlotter/status/624566810654937088 (https://twitter.com/JourneyPlotter/status/624566810654937088)
:D
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 12 August 2015, 05:29:02
Both PCs now on Win10. Only Bluetooth mouse problem with one. Relatively painless.   ;)
Keyboards still cannot spell, wish they would fix them.  ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Hanibal94 on 12 August 2015, 13:42:58
I'm gonna wait beginning of October, when my exams are all done - I need my PC to study and practice for those, so I'm not taking any chances.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Randi on 12 August 2015, 13:48:44
Very sensible!
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Maikel on 12 August 2015, 14:03:34
Some superb 360o H.M.S. M.33 photos available at NMRN.
http://nmrn.org.uk/node/1417 (http://nmrn.org.uk/node/1417)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Thursday Next on 12 August 2015, 14:52:44
I'm gonna wait beginning of October, when my exams are all done - I need my PC to study and practice for those, so I'm not taking any chances.

Hopefully Microsoft will have fixed the endless reboot problem by then!
http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2015/aug/11/windows-10-broken-update-endless-reboot-loop
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 12 August 2015, 17:43:53
Some superb 360o H.M.S. M.33 photos available at NMRN.
http://nmrn.org.uk/node/1417 (http://nmrn.org.uk/node/1417)

I wonder if they have noticed, somebody nicked the engine?
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 12 August 2015, 20:15:45
I'm gonna wait beginning of October, when my exams are all done - I need my PC to study and practice for those, so I'm not taking any chances.

Hopefully Microsoft will have fixed the endless reboot problem by then!
http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2015/aug/11/windows-10-broken-update-endless-reboot-loop

I've been convinced Win10 will be good to install - AFTER it's had a couple of months to work out the most egregious bugs.

Some superb 360o H.M.S. M.33 photos available at NMRN.
http://nmrn.org.uk/node/1417 (http://nmrn.org.uk/node/1417)

Maybe that's why they won't put it in the water?   ;)
I wonder if they have noticed, somebody nicked the engine?
  :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 14 August 2015, 12:23:40
Here is a 70th anniversary.  Not the war our RN ships were in, but it was the war my dad and step-mother served in.

https://www.facebook.com/janet.jaguar/posts/893753924044781

I'm giving you the Facebook link because I'm not sure if the Trib article (http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/opinion/editorials/ct-world-war-ii-armistice-japanese-surrender-atom-bomb-edit-20150813-story.html) is public or not.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Maikel on 18 August 2015, 10:41:57
Tomorrow Sail Amsterdam will start (https://www.sail.nl/en/ (https://www.sail.nl/en/)).
Today the first tall ships have arrived off the Dutch coast and tomorrow they'll sail in parade over the North Sea Channel to Amsterdam.
Always an amazing sight. :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Randi on 18 August 2015, 10:55:12
Firefox says: "This Connection is Untrusted"
I trust that since you posted it it can be trusted ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Maikel on 19 August 2015, 02:34:45
My Firefox isn't reporting anything. ???
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 19 August 2015, 02:48:46
My Chrome had no problems with it.  The advantage of a tall ships festival on the ocean is that you get the really tall ships.  On the Great Lakes, there are no trade winds to make those tall square sails economic and many shallow ports, so all of our tall ships are schooners and coastal vessels.  Yours are much more impressive.  Enjoy.  :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Maikel on 19 August 2015, 03:04:25
If you want to see pictures of the event, check the following site:
http://sail2015inbeeld.webflow.io/ (http://sail2015inbeeld.webflow.io/)

Pictures will be added during the event, so check regularly. :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Caro on 19 August 2015, 03:52:05
Looks wonderful, Maikel. No warning from Firefox for me either.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Randi on 19 August 2015, 07:56:51
I get:
Quote
This Connection is Untrusted

You have asked Firefox to connect securely to www.sail.nl, but we can't confirm that your connection is secure.

Normally, when you try to connect securely, sites will present trusted identification to prove that you are going to the right place. However, this site's identity can't be verified.
What Should I Do?

[Get me out of here!]

> Technical Details

V I understand the Risks

If you usually connect to this site without problems, this error could mean that someone is trying to impersonate the site, and you shouldn't continue.

If you understand what's going on, you can tell Firefox to start trusting this site's identification. Even if you trust the site, this error could mean that someone is tampering with your connection.

Don't add an exception unless you know there's a good reason why this site doesn't use trusted identification.

[Add Exception...]
I don't have any problems with the site itself. Lots of ships! Too bad Hermione couldn't make it.

I don't have any problems with http://sail2015inbeeld.webflow.io/
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Hanibal94 on 19 August 2015, 16:29:49
I'm using Chrome, and have no problems with the site.
One site I always have that "Connection is Untrusted" problem with is my college's email system - the message Randi mentioned pops up every single time I check my college email there.
The college offers Bachelor's degrees in Computer Science, but they can't make an email system with a trusted connection...  ::)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 19 August 2015, 19:34:01
Something for you to do for them as a paper or treatise?
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Craig on 19 August 2015, 20:20:14
... or as a consultant.  ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Michael on 20 August 2015, 00:01:35
We had a great family reunion at "our" lake in central British Columbia. Here's what 50 years can do...   :D

PS, we are all of similar height, but when my mom took the photo 50 years ago, she had me stand at the highest end of the slope. We are now the oldest generation...  :(  but there are many following in our place and doing the same things at the lake we did 50 years ago!  :) :) :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Randi on 20 August 2015, 02:11:52
 ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Caro on 20 August 2015, 03:05:00
Great pictures, Michael.  :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 20 August 2015, 06:35:46
So cool.  Thanks for sharing.  :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: jil on 20 August 2015, 06:40:19
Wonderful pics!
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Hanibal94 on 20 August 2015, 13:52:17
Very nice, Michael!

P.S. Why don't you have any facial hair like your brothers (I assume you're the guy on the far right in both pics)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Michael on 20 August 2015, 15:06:35
Very nice, Michael!

P.S. Why don't you have any facial hair like your brothers (I assume you're the guy on the far right in both pics)

Cousins, actually. I don't have the facial hair because I am much more sophisticated!  ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Hanibal94 on 21 August 2015, 04:01:30
We had a great family reunion at "our" lake in central British Columbia. Here's what 50 years can do...   :D

Something similar, but much more funny:

http://imgur.com/a/PzUC8
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 21 August 2015, 06:20:56
 ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Randi on 21 August 2015, 07:44:46
 ;D ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: AvastMH on 21 August 2015, 08:33:00
Great pictures Michael and Hanibal. Very funny. ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Randi on 21 August 2015, 14:06:40
'Oldest' message in a bottle found more than 108 years on (http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-34020734)
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...
The bottle was released in the North Sea between 1904 and 1906 and found by a woman on a beach in Amrum, Germany.

Inside a postcard asked that it be sent to the Marine Biological Association of the UK, where the bottle was returned.
...
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 21 August 2015, 14:32:17
Now that is a cool story - bet that shilling is worth more in an antique coin shop.  :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Randi on 25 August 2015, 04:06:09
Looking for my Shanghai father (http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-33962179)
Quote
After World War Two ended, the British government forcibly repatriated hundreds of Chinese sailors who had been recruited for the Merchant Navy. Their sudden departure had a devastating effect on families left behind, like that of Yvonne Foley.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: AvastMH on 25 August 2015, 08:48:27
That's a very moving story. I love how Yvonne dealt with the misery of what happened to her father. At times, we were not very nice to all the other nations that helped British Forces during the war.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Randi on 26 August 2015, 08:48:35
Weather@Home Mexico: New Climate Modelling Experiment Launching Soon (http://www.climateprediction.net/weatherhome-mexico-new-climate-modelling-experiment-launching-soon/)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 26 August 2015, 09:26:34
Cool. Is that a transcribing site, or a BOINC-type site?

Saw this post, Clearly BOINC-type.   8)
http://forum.oldweather.org/index.php?topic=2028.msg114516#msg114516
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: AvastMH on 27 August 2015, 07:12:48
Zooniverse New Talk is encouraging the use of imgur.com for placing images. Has anyone used them please? Might change to them from imageshack. Thanks!
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: HatterJack on 27 August 2015, 07:21:53
I use imgur for Reddit stuff from time to time, they're pretty good generally speaking. They're incredibly stable, even on the occasion when Reddit links to imgur (which is often) for something where virtually everyone on Reddit looks at the same picture in a short period of time (which is also often), they haven't caused too many problems.

There *are* occasionally issues with smartphones and imgur's actual website, but they have an app that renders it pretty much a moot point.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: AvastMH on 27 August 2015, 09:12:04
Thanks Hatterjack! I can cope with the site being down now and then - the stability is the thing that worried me - so thanks for letting me know about that  :D
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Hanibal94 on 28 August 2015, 16:43:01
The digital game that could cure tuberculosis (http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-34070135)

Sounds very interesting! Maybe I'll check it out.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: AvastMH on 30 August 2015, 11:09:16
Amazing! I've been feeding a bunch of hedgehogs (which means sitting out in the blisteringly FREEZING English summer for a good hour each night), one of which had a limp. I was very worried as it almost looked like a leg was lost - perhaps it was trapped by a bit of netting?
Nope - caught the little chap last night, a rescuer (bless Lis from Bicester!) kindly came over (I don't drive just now) and took a look. Turns out that 'titch' only has 3 legs, and may have been like that all his young life! Luckily it's a back leg - even so he may need to move to an enclosed garden later this year if he struggles once his weight increases to adulthood. But for now he's back in his own familiar nest. Awwwww  :D
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Randi on 30 August 2015, 11:23:34
Neat!
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: jil on 30 August 2015, 12:41:00
Amazing! I've been feeding a bunch of hedgehogs (which means sitting out in the blisteringly FREEZING English summer for a good hour each night), one of which had a limp. I was very worried as it almost looked like a leg was lost - perhaps it was trapped by a bit of netting?
Nope - caught the little chap last night, a rescuer (bless Lis from Bicester!) kindly came over (I don't drive just now) and took a look. Turns out that 'titch' only has 3 legs, and may have been like that all his young life! Luckily it's a back leg - even so he may need to move to an enclosed garden later this year if he struggles once his weight increases to adulthood. But for now he's back in his own familiar nest. Awwwww  :D
Well done! I used to get hedgehogs in my garden quite regularly but not seen any sign of them for months.  :'(
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Thursday Next on 30 August 2015, 14:05:44
No, I don't get many hedgehogs these days either  :(  It is a great shame as I have a plentiful supply of organic slugs available for them.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 30 August 2015, 14:17:41
Hedgehogs are not wildlife this side of the pond, you have to buy them in pet stores.  And I have trouble thinking of them as domesticated, but it seems to work out OK.

I just found another wildlife cam for sea otters - The Elkhorn Slough OtterCam (http://www.pbs.org/big-blue-live/live-cams/elkhorn-slough-otter-cam/) 

It was posted as auxiliary to a PBS/BBC live reality nature show on this week over here.  I have no idea if the animals will cooperate, but I suspect it will be shown on BBC also.  Check your local stations for schedules.  :)
Quote
http://www.pbs.org/big-blue-live/about/
Big Blue Live is a live television and online event celebrating some of the world?s most amazing marine creatures converging off California?s coast. Set in Monterey Bay National Marine Sanctuary, the bay has experienced an environmental rebirth. This wildlife success story attracts humpback whales, blue whales, sea lions, dolphins, elephant seals, sea otters, great white sharks, shearwaters, and much more for a once-a-year marine animal phenomenon.
...

It is in the area frequented by several of our ships.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Thursday Next on 30 August 2015, 15:22:44
Hedgehogs are not wildlife this side of the pond, you have to buy them in pet stores.  And I have trouble thinking of them as domesticated, but it seems to work out OK.


I remember being on holiday on Orkney many years ago and there was an American woman in the group - what she absolutely most wanted to see on the trip was a hedgehog!  Luckily I almost tripped over one on one of the walks so she got her wish!
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Hanibal94 on 30 August 2015, 16:10:00
R.I.P. Oliver Sacks

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-34102119

 :'( :'(

He was a really good writer. I love his books.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: AvastMH on 30 August 2015, 17:10:52
R.I.P. Oliver Sacks

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-34102119

 :'( :'(

He was a really good writer. I love his books.

He is a great loss. :'(  You might need one of these, hanibal

(http://imageshack.com/a/img537/6650/cZutu3.jpg)

(wrong type of book genre - but probably works just as well  ;) )
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Randi on 01 September 2015, 14:33:02
The giant airships that could carry 66 tonnes (http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-34017183?post_id=897686430289962_946967955361809)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 01 September 2015, 15:15:42
Very interesting for delivering big objects and multiple cargo containers.  I like the idea.  :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Randi on 02 September 2015, 07:15:20
Chiara Vigo: The last woman who makes sea silk (http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-33691781)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 02 September 2015, 08:03:20
What a wonderful woman, and what a loss if she cannot find a true apprentice.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: AvastMH on 02 September 2015, 18:17:01
What a wonderful woman, and what a loss if she cannot find a true apprentice.
I'll second that Janet.
Amazing story
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Hanibal94 on 03 September 2015, 10:29:00
MAJOR TECHNOLOGICAL BREAKTHROUGH!


Introducing the new Bio-Optic Organized Knowledge device,
trade-named BOOK.

BOOK is a revolutionary breakthrough in technology: no wires, no
electric circuits, no batteries, nothing to be connected or
switched on.

It's so easy to use, even a child can operate it.

Compact and portable, it can be used anywhere -- even sitting in
an armchair by the fire -- yet it is powerful enough to hold as much
information as a CD-ROM disc.

Here's how it works:

BOOK is constructed of sequentially numbered sheets of paper
(recyclable), each capable of holding thousands of bits of
information, in the form of text, images, diagrams and much more.

The pages are locked together with a custom-fit device called a
binder which keeps the sheets in their correct sequence.

Opaque Paper Technology (OPT) allows manufacturers to use both
sides of the sheet, doubling the information density and cutting
costs.

Experts are divided on the prospects for further increases in
information density; for now, BOOKS with more information simply
use more pages, and/or have larger pages.

Each sheet is scanned optically, registering information directly
into your brain. A flick of the finger takes you to the next sheet.

BOOK may be taken up at any time and used merely by opening it.

BOOK never crashes or requires rebooting, though like other display devices
it can become unusable if it comes into contact with large amounts of liquid.
The "browse" feature allows you to move instantly to any sheet, and move
forward or backward as you wish.

Many come with an "index" feature, which pin-points the exact
location of any selected information for instant retrieval, as each page
has its own number. The first page has the number 1, the second the number 2, etc.

An optional "BOOKmark" accessory allows you to open BOOK to the
exact place you left it in a previous session -- even if the BOOK has
been closed.
BOOKmarks fit universal design standards; thus, a single BOOKmark
can be used in any BOOK by any manufacturers. Conversely, numerous BOOK
markers can be used in a single BOOK if the user wants to store
numerous views at once. The number is limited only by the number of
pages in the BOOK.

You can also make personal notes next to BOOK text entries with an
optional programming tool, the Portable Erasable Nib Cryptic
Intercommunication Language Stylus (PENCILS).

Portable, durable, and affordable, BOOK is being hailed as a
precursor of a new entertainment wave.

BOOK's appeal seems so certain that millions of content creators
have committed to the platform and investors are reportedly flocking to
invest.

Look for a flood of new titles soon.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Randi on 03 September 2015, 10:53:07
Yes!!!!!


(http://www.psdgraphics.com/file/golden-star.jpg)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 03 September 2015, 13:18:06
Oh, Yeah!!!!

(http://www.sherv.net/cm/emoticons/sport/won-the-trophy-smiley-emoticon.gif)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Randi on 03 September 2015, 16:10:50
Hi Pommy Stuart!
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: AvastMH on 03 September 2015, 20:01:41
Major Technological Breakthrough...

(http://i.imgur.com/93AdD03h.gif)

Boy oh boy - I can't wait to get one!! Sign me up for beta testing  :D
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Hurlock on 04 September 2015, 01:44:55
I have heard that there are a lot of bugs in the entomology books
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Randi on 04 September 2015, 02:35:34
AvastMH: Love that smiley!!!



Hurlock: :P :P :P :P :P
 ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: jil on 04 September 2015, 05:05:23
 ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: AvastMH on 04 September 2015, 07:10:47
I have heard that there are a lot of bugs in the entomology books

Well if that's the only fly in the ointment we'll beetle along just fine  ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Randi on 04 September 2015, 08:39:29
A new accessory will be available soon: Permanent Editing Notation System !
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Craig on 04 September 2015, 09:31:39
 ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Hanibal94 on 05 September 2015, 09:11:50
Glad to hear you all like that story!

I must confess, however, that I own a Kindle, as do my parents and older brother.
And I like it - it's so practical. You can stick over a thousand books on it, but it weighs less than most books I know of.
Plus, there's a built-in night light too.

So, the greatness of the Kindle has led my family to discard numerous paper books. Some of them were worth giving to others, but most, I hate to admit, ended up in the paper recycling.
Please don't chase me with pitchforks and torches for this!
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 05 September 2015, 11:12:14
Especially paperback books can be loved to death - the paper browns and gets brittle, and it is proper to bury them.  Properly bound books should get donated to a library, not trashed.  :)

I love my kindle, a whole library in my purse. 
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: studentforever on 05 September 2015, 12:18:00
For a novel kindles are ideal. I have one and it is bliss on holiday & in hospital. But they are less user friendly as study books and not at all good when pics & maps are involved.  There other big advantages for the elderly with failing eyesight - fonts which can be changed at will are the biggest. But a library full of e-books won't have that lovely smell of old leather & polished wood.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Hanibal94 on 05 September 2015, 14:03:49
Especially paperback books can be loved to death - the paper browns and gets brittle, and it is proper to bury them.  Properly bound books should get donated to a library, not trashed.  :)

I did take some of the German books to an Oxfam store - they do business in Germany.
But most of the ones that had to go were English - not much chance of those getting reused.

Oh, and here's an interesting/horrifying article on the subject. Read at your own risk.
http://www.cracked.com/article_19453_6-reasons-were-in-another-book-burning-period-in-history.html
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 05 September 2015, 15:56:38
Now that literally made me nauseous.  Because I've seen "my" local libraries run out of storage space 10 years before the funding then construction of a bigger library for them.  I don't know how to stop that horribleness.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: AvastMH on 05 September 2015, 17:47:05
oh gosh - burning books - um - oh - er - well. I suppose technical books that have become outmoded (then again perhaps they become useful to the historians?) need to give way to active books. And what do you do with a book that hasn't left a shelf in 20 years? When I think of the size of the Bodleian Library, or the British Library (both copyright libraries) - it's epic, and most towns just can't come close to that size of library. It does mean that electronic books can make some information still available with relative ease.

But for me - it's got to be the fragile brown pages, the scent of leather, that need to support the spine of a hardback book, the dust (which I'm allergic too - sigh!). OK- having done the whole of the 3 Musketeers vast amounts of Dickens etc cycle, I'm happy to admit that kindles (how funny that one talks of 'kindling' fires?!) do have their place.

What worries me more is the prevalence of phone apps replacing the reading of good books in any medium.  :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 05 September 2015, 19:42:55
Hi Pommy Stuart!

Previous log page deleted and this added
Ocean Endeavour.

21th  Aug 2015 Itiueg Fiord Kangerlussuaq
Lt airs - 1008 11 c
66 57n, 50 57w

22nd Sisimiut
Lt air - 1012 9 c
66 56.4n, 53 40.8w

23rd Ilulissat
Lt airs - 1012 9 c
69 13.7n 51 06.3w

24th Kullorsuaq
Lt air - 1008 11 c
74 34.5 n, 57 06.3w

25th Kap York.
E 2. 1021. 6. C.
75 56.7N. 66 42.3 W.

26th Etah
NW 2. 1021. 4. C.
78 18.0 N. 72 45.6 W

27th Aujuittuq (Grise fiord)
E. 2. 1005. 4. C.
76 24.8N.82 54.7W

28th Coburg Is.
Lt airs. -. 1002. 5. C.
75 32 1N. 79 03 6W.

29th Devon Is.
S. 2. 1005. 5  C.
74 32 1N. 82 25 2 W

30th Beechy Isd
E. 2. 1009. 6. bc.
74 42 8N. 91 48 0W

31st Griffin Bay
Lt air. -. 1013. 10. bc
75 00 2N. 92 22 2W

1st Sept 2015 Fort Ross.
Ne. 2. 1012. 6. C.
72 00 3n 94 13 3w

2nd Jenny Lund isd
Ne. 2. 1012. 10. C
68 38 4n 101 46 1w

3rd Cambridge Bay 6am
N 3 1010 4 c
69 09 1n 104 56 1 w

4th Johansens Bay - forgot to get log
63 34n, 111 05w

5th Kugluktuk left ship at 6am, did not get figures
67 82.9n 115 09.5w



Stuart.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 05 September 2015, 21:43:36
Thanks for keeping a log.  :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: jil on 06 September 2015, 05:16:27
Sounds great - looking forward to the pics!
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: AvastMH on 06 September 2015, 07:20:50
AWESOME trip Stuart! Yep - count me in for the slide show  :D
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Randi on 08 September 2015, 13:19:10
This Day in History: Honda Point Disaster (1923) (http://encyclopedia.thefreedictionary.com/Honda+Point+Disaster)
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The Honda Point Disaster was the largest peacetime loss of U.S. Navy ships. On the evening of September 8, 1923, seven destroyers, while traveling at 20 knots (37 km/h), ran aground at Honda Point, a few miles from the northern side of the Santa Barbara Channel
...
Local ranchers, who were alerted by the commotion caused in the disaster, rigged up breeches buoys from the surrounding cliff tops and lowered them down to the ships that had run aground. Fishermen nearby that had seen the tragedy picked up members of the crew from USS Fuller and USS Woodbury.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 08 September 2015, 13:25:13
Rest in peace.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 08 September 2015, 16:14:37

For those who may be interested here is the link to a sample of my trip photos.
https://goo.gl/photos/F72BEXV7GfyAyRL69 (https://goo.gl/photos/F72BEXV7GfyAyRL69)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 08 September 2015, 17:23:28
That's beautiful.  May I ask what that rock cairn was representing?
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 08 September 2015, 17:55:17
That's beautiful.  May I ask what that rock cairn was representing?

It seems like it was a 'tourist manufactured cairn'.
It was soon after dismantled by our onboard Nunavut culturist.

I captured the clear ice cube and brought it onboard for the Scotch.  :o Purists stop cringing.  ::)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 08 September 2015, 18:43:02
I'll be generous and assume the alcohol will disinfect anything the sea left on it.  8)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Hanibal94 on 09 September 2015, 02:09:47
Great photos, Stuart! I really like the ones of the aurora borealis.
And that's quite a nice beard you got too - with that, you totally look like a native of the Arctic!
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: jil on 09 September 2015, 04:39:13
Wow! That looks like an amazing journey, Stuart  8)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: HatterJack on 09 September 2015, 05:23:30
Looks like quite the adventure. Some remarkably beautiful burgs, and that crystal clear ice block was breathtaking (and no doubt delicious with the Scotch). Great picture of the aurora too.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: elizabeth on 09 September 2015, 14:29:36

For those who may be interested here is the link to a sample of my trip photos.
https://goo.gl/photos/F72BEXV7GfyAyRL69 (https://goo.gl/photos/F72BEXV7GfyAyRL69)
WOW  8) looks like you had a great trip!
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: AvastMH on 09 September 2015, 19:18:28
oh boy oh boy!!!!! Stuart - what a magical journey! You lucky thing, I'm jealous  :D :D :D
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 09 September 2015, 22:29:15
Glad you liked the pictures.
Highly recommend the North West Passage trip i did. The beard has gone, i did not need the thermal insulation as temps were around 5c except on the polar plunge which had the water at 3c.
Kevin put me on to the agents in NZ.
Just winding down on the Rocky Mountaineer.
Unfortunately it has an open bar.  :-[

Back to OW in two weeks.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Michael on 09 September 2015, 23:23:33
Don't tell Stuart, but the bar in my house has a $20 corkage fee for wine and a $5 surcharge per bottle of beer!  ;D

I figure with all the open bars Stuart has had to patronize in the past three or four weeks will make him desperate for a drink or two at my place.  ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Hanibal94 on 11 September 2015, 14:45:28
I have heard that if your PC has automatic updates enabled and is running Windows 7, Windows 8 or Windows 8.1, Windows 10 files may have been installed on it last Tuesday.

http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/havent-upgraded-windows-10-microsoft-has-downloaded-6gb-files-your-pc-anyway-1519290

I checked my own Win7 PC - and yes, it does have these files.
I'll leave them where they are because I'm gonna get this OS in a month of so anyway.
Just thought it would be good for you all to know about it.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 11 September 2015, 14:49:28
What are the chances they sent that out so our computers can read 10.1 files?
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: propriome on 11 September 2015, 16:26:04
Interesting Hanibal, thank for sharing.

I've not that folder on my Win7, even if that annoying upgrade screen is showing from a certain time now.
Maybe the upgrade is differently handled in different countries, or has different distribution schedules.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Hanibal94 on 12 September 2015, 14:34:04
Siri answers question at White House press conference (http://gizmodo.com/siri-fields-iran-question-at-a-white-house-press-confer-1730216484)

Haha!
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 14 September 2015, 12:00:18
Please notice that, in preparation for the 2 new interfaces that will be coming on line this autumn, we have a new Global Moderator (http://forum.oldweather.org/index.php?topic=538.msg4666#msg4666), AvastMH (Joan).   

(http://www.sherv.net/cm/emoticons/hand-gestures/awesome-smiley-emoticon.gif)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Hanibal94 on 14 September 2015, 12:34:43
WOW! Congrats on your promotion, Joan!

Hmmm... is it still safe to beat you at Shipopoly?
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Craig on 14 September 2015, 12:54:40
Wonderful, Joan! You certainly are qualified for the job.  8) 8) 8)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: AvastMH on 14 September 2015, 14:07:51
WOW! Congrats on your promotion, Joan!

Hmmm... is it still safe to beat you at Shipopoly?

Thank you! You are ALWAYS welcome to beat me at Shipopoly hanibal!  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: AvastMH on 14 September 2015, 14:09:12
Wonderful, Joan! You certainly are qualified for the job.  8) 8) 8)

Thanks Craig!  I will do my very best I promise. If anyone catches me slouching or sleeping on the job...give me a nudge!  ;) ;) :D
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: studentforever on 14 September 2015, 14:09:30
Does the promotion double your pay, I wonder.

Congratulations, hope you will enjoy your new role.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: AvastMH on 14 September 2015, 14:14:17
Can't believe that I'm posting this right now!  :-[ :-[ :-[
SIGH! Looks like BT have a trojan in their email system and poor mapurves got a weird email from me ( @btinternet.com ) which was spurious and came from a different source (@ftani.com). If you get an email from me the chances are it's NOT good unless I told you here I'd send you a message by email.
Now to sort the problem out...gggrrr!  >:(
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: AvastMH on 14 September 2015, 14:19:15
Does the promotion double your pay, I wonder.

Congratulations, hope you will enjoy your new role.
Thanks so much studentforever! Yep - they doubled it to ?0! Wow!  8) 8) 8) So the chocs are on me everyone....

(http://imageshack.com/a/img673/2664/xB69tz.jpg)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 14 September 2015, 15:17:18
Does the promotion double your pay, I wonder.

Congratulations, hope you will enjoy your new role.
Thanks so much studentforever! Yep - they doubled it to ?0! Wow!  8) 8) 8)

Actually, when the  new interfaces come out all of us moderators get our salaries doubled.  A whole $0 extra added.   ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Hanibal94 on 14 September 2015, 15:50:24
Actually, when the  new interfaces come out all of us moderators get our salaries doubled.  A whole $0 extra added.   ;)

Why yes, that is true: 0$ * 2 = 0$!
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: studentforever on 14 September 2015, 17:25:36
How many moderators are there now who will be awarded this fantastic pay rise. Can OW afford it I ask myself, but I will gladly donate the ?0 I received as a bonus for editing my last ship to the fund.

When I think of the hassle you have been\will go through I am very glad I don't have to do it myself. Good luck everyone, may all your bytes behave themselves.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Caro on 14 September 2015, 17:35:50
I want my pay rise in pounds Sterling, please.
Welcome Joan!  :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: jil on 14 September 2015, 17:45:54
Congratulations and good luck, Joan!
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: AvastMH on 14 September 2015, 19:07:30
Congratulations and good luck, Joan!

Thanks jil!  :D
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: AvastMH on 14 September 2015, 19:09:18
I want my pay rise in pounds Sterling, please.
Welcome Joan!  :)

Gosh - good idea Caro - the exchange rate on 'Zeros' is good at the moment  ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: elizabeth on 14 September 2015, 23:20:03
I want my pay rise in pounds Sterling, please.
Welcome Joan!  :)

Gosh - good idea Caro - the exchange rate on 'Zeros' is good at the moment  ;)
;D ;D LOL here. 0 =0  Yes just right.   ::)  ah yeah gosh no preview so hope it makes sense.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: elizabeth on 15 September 2015, 02:31:07
 ;D Oh just off the wall here. ............. Just want all of you wonderful people to know you are AWESOME!  Do not let them win fight back.  :)

oh darn no Preview.... what next  ;)?
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Randi on 15 September 2015, 02:58:02
Preview works in Chrome but not in the current version of Firefox.
For lots of details, see: http://forum.oldweather.org/index.php?topic=4392.0



In my Forum Profile, under Look and Layout (http://forum.oldweather.org/index.php?action=profile;area=theme;u=3419), I checked "Return to topics after posting by default.".
That way I see my post as soon as I post it and I can modify it right away if necessary.
If I want to do a lot of formatting, I create the post as a PM, where preview does work, and then copy it here.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: studentforever on 15 September 2015, 16:31:16
The forum has gone 'dead', so I assume that there is a problem posting. So I'll give this one a 'go'.  Firefox declares it is up to date - 40.0.3 - and Windows 7.  I'll see what happens.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: studentforever on 15 September 2015, 16:33:23
Yep, it seems to work for me.

Hope everyone else is OK and I'm not the sole survivor in the lifeboat after the good ship OW has been wrecked on the digital rocks.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Randi on 15 September 2015, 16:55:41
I haven't seen any problems, but I have been away for about an hour.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: studentforever on 15 September 2015, 17:09:52
It isn't often that there aren't any new posts for 6 hours or so and with the reports of problems with preview I wondered if the whole thing had crashed. Pleased to see I'm not alone aboard the good ship OW.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Hanibal94 on 15 September 2015, 17:15:30
Everything's fine for me too.

Guess it was just a very inactive day - it was a working Tuesday, after all.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: AvastMH on 15 September 2015, 18:08:43
I think I'm OK - been getting bit of posts.  :D (Using Chrome)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 16 September 2015, 02:39:41
I am getting
Cannot access upload path error.
Any suggestions?
Latest FF & Win10

Will keep trying.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Randi on 16 September 2015, 03:01:34
I am getting
Cannot access upload path error.
Any suggestions?
Latest FF & Win10

Will keep trying.

What are you trying to do?

Attachments don't work right now.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Michael on 16 September 2015, 10:24:49
Stuart,

   Does this mean you made it back to Bowral? Welcome home! It was good to see you.

PS
Your bill is in the mail.  It was so big, I had to send it parcel post!  ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Randi on 16 September 2015, 10:27:42
 ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Kevin on 16 September 2015, 11:25:16
Here is an article from NPR that someone forwarded to me. Its not about OW specifically, but about the remarkable enterprise we are all engaged in.
http://www.npr.org/sections/13.7/2015/09/10/438913284/the-climate-story-nobody-talks-about
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 16 September 2015, 16:42:00
I am getting
Cannot access upload path error.
Any suggestions?
Latest FF & Win10

Will keep trying.

What are you trying to do?

Attachments don't work right now.

Thanks.
Just got back today and had not yet read the last months posts to find that out.
Stuart.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 16 September 2015, 20:03:34
Here is an article from NPR that someone forwarded to me. Its not about OW specifically, but about the remarkable enterprise we are all engaged in.
http://www.npr.org/sections/13.7/2015/09/10/438913284/the-climate-story-nobody-talks-about

Thanks, Kevin.  I like this one, it speaks with some optimism.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Hanibal94 on 17 September 2015, 03:27:29
Here is an article from NPR that someone forwarded to me. Its not about OW specifically, but about the remarkable enterprise we are all engaged in.
http://www.npr.org/sections/13.7/2015/09/10/438913284/the-climate-story-nobody-talks-about

I like it too - thanks!
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Craig on 17 September 2015, 06:35:53
"Some optimism", unless you look at Jim Hansen's graph showing actual global temperatures being higher than his worst case scenario. Alas  :( 

However, it is still very interesting perspective.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: elizabeth on 18 September 2015, 06:46:47
 :) hello everyone. I see the moon zoo has hit the dust :( https://www.zooniverse.org/talk/14/
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 18 September 2015, 07:24:37
Good to know the scientists there got all their data processed.  :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Hanibal94 on 18 September 2015, 08:06:28
Wow... it's real common to hear about a new project coming out, but quite rare to hear about one being completed.
And Moon Zoo is one of the oldest - it was launched in 2009, and I personally thought it would never get finished!
Thanks for mentioning this, Liz.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Hanibal94 on 18 September 2015, 15:52:08
The 2015 Ig Nobel Prizes, my favorite awards, have been announced.
This year, we have:

Chemistry - Callum Ormonde (University of Western Australia) and colleagues, for inventing a chemical recipe to partially un-boil an egg.

Physics - Patricia Yang (Georgia Institute of Technology, US) and colleagues, for testing the biological principle that nearly all mammals above 3kg empty their bladders in about 21 seconds (plus or minus 13 seconds).

Literature - Mark Dingemanse (Max Planck Institute for Psycholinguistics, The Netherlands) and colleagues, for discovering that the word "huh?" (or its equivalent) seems to exist in every human language - and for not being quite sure why.

Management - Gennaro Bernile (Singapore Management University) and colleagues, for discovering that many business leaders developed a fondness for risk-taking in childhood when they experienced natural disasters (such as earthquakes, volcanic eruptions, tsunamis, and wildfires) that - for them - had no dire personal consequences.

Economics - The Bangkok Metropolitan Police (Thailand) for offering to pay policemen extra cash if the policemen refuse to take bribes.

Medicine - joint award: Hajime Kimata (Kimata Hajime Clinic, Japan) and also Jaroslava Durdiakov? (Comenius University, Slovakia) and her colleagues, for experiments to study the biomedical benefits or biomedical consequences of intense kissing (and other intimate, interpersonal activities).

Mathematics - Elisabeth Oberzaucher and Karl Grammer (University of Vienna, Austria) for trying to use mathematical techniques to determine whether and how Moulay Ismael the Bloodthirsty, the Sharifian Emperor of Morocco, managed, during the years from 1697 through 1727, to father 888 children.

Biology - Bruno Grossi (University of Chile) and colleagues, for observing that when you attach a weighted stick to the rear end of a chicken, the chicken then walks in a manner similar to that in which dinosaurs are thought to have walked.

Diagnostic medicine - Diallah Karim (Stoke Mandeville Hospital, UK) and colleagues, for determining that acute appendicitis can be accurately diagnosed by the amount of pain evident when the patient is driven over speed bumps.

Physiology and entomology - Awarded jointly to two individuals: Justin Schmidt (Southwest Biological Institute, US) for painstakingly creating the Schmidt Sting Pain Index, which rates the relative pain people feel when stung by various insects; and to Michael L. Smith (Cornell University, US), for carefully arranging for honey bees to sting him repeatedly on 25 different locations on his body, to learn which locations are the least painful (the skull, middle toe tip, and upper arm). and which are the most painful (the nostril, upper lip, and penis shaft).
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 18 September 2015, 16:07:22
re: Ig Nobel Prizes

Huh   ::)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 18 September 2015, 16:11:54
Huh - did anyone check if the re-raw egg remained edible?
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Craig on 18 September 2015, 18:46:25
These are funny. Also, the Darwin Awards are funny too. Prizes given for stupid actions that result in a person's genes not being transmitted to the next generation (i.e. died).

The Economics one is on the right track but misguided. If the police are paid a decent salary they will be less tempted to take a bribe, especially if they are fired for accepting one.

Love the mathematics study.  ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 21 September 2015, 00:01:19
These pictures are amazing.  Even if they are looking up into space instead of out to sea.

Beauty beyond - winning astronomy photography (http://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-34256496)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Randi on 21 September 2015, 06:07:35
I just took Dad's Windows 10 computer into the shop.
Their standard procedure is to reset them to Windows 7.

He said it is too early to upgrade to Windows 10 and that I should wait till January!
That sounds a bit extreme - and it seems to me that there is some date limit - but I will probably wait till at least November.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Hanibal94 on 21 September 2015, 08:49:37
He said it is too early to upgrade to Windows 10 and that I should wait till January!
That sounds a bit extreme - and it seems to me that there is some date limit - but I will probably wait till at least November.

The date limit is until July next year, I think.
I'm waiting about another 10 days - my last exam is September 30th, and I need my computer until then, so I'm not taking any chances.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 21 September 2015, 09:18:33
He said it is too early to upgrade to Windows 10 and that I should wait till January!
That sounds a bit extreme - and it seems to me that there is some date limit - but I will probably wait till at least November.

The date limit is until July next year, I think.
I'm waiting about another 10 days - my last exam is September 30th, and I need my computer until then, so I'm not taking any chances.

From the horse's mouth:
Quote
http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/windows-10-upgrade
You?ll have a free, full version of Windows 10 -- not a trial or a lite version -- if you complete your upgrade before July 29, 20161

Footnotes:
1 Windows Offer Details

Yes, free! This upgrade offer is for a full version of Windows 10, not a trial. 3GB download required; internet access fees may apply. Estimated retail price of Windows 10 Home shown, actual retail prices may vary. To take advantage of this free offer, you must upgrade to Windows 10 within one year of availability. Once you upgrade, you have Windows 10 for free on that device.

Windows 10 Upgrade Offer is valid for qualified and genuine Windows 7 and Windows 8.1 devices, including devices you already own. Some hardware/software requirements apply and feature availability may vary by device and market. The availability of Windows 10 upgrade for Windows Phone 8.1 devices may vary by OEM, mobile operator or carrier. Devices must be connected to the internet and have Windows Update enabled. Windows 7 SP1 and Windows 8.1 Update required. Some editions are excluded: Windows 7 Enterprise, Windows 8/8.1 Enterprise, and Windows RT/RT 8.1. Active Software Assurance customers in volume licensing have the benefit to upgrade to Windows 10 enterprise offerings outside of this offer. To check for compatibility and other important installation information, visit your device manufacturer?s website and the Windows 10 Specifications page. Windows 10 is automatically updated. Additional requirements will apply over time for updates. See Windows 10 Upgrade page for details.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Dean on 21 September 2015, 19:14:48
These pictures are amazing.  Even if they are looking up into space instead of out to sea.

Beauty beyond - winning astronomy photography (http://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-34256496)

For those who enjoy these types of pictures try        http://apod.nasa.gov/apod/astropix.html

Every day there is a different pic. If you click on DISCOVER THE COSMOS - upper left - you can get the archive and see all the older ones!   ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: JamesAPrattIII on 26 September 2015, 10:11:07
A few days ago on PBS there was a Nova program "Artic Ghost Ship" on the Franklin Artic expedition. They found one of the ships the Erberus.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 26 September 2015, 10:46:33
I watched it also.  Quite fascinating, I think it can be found streaming for those outside PBS broadcast area, http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/tech/arctic-ghost-ship.html
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Caro on 26 September 2015, 15:19:34
From Facebook: Stuart Lynn, one of the good guys.  :)

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-ZBUj-ZDq674/Vgbu4VTPXNI/AAAAAAAARDA/wGktrrC0P7Y/s496-Ic42/stuartow.JPG?gl=GB)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Randi on 26 September 2015, 15:24:39
Makes me very happy too!
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 26 September 2015, 16:57:33
Oh, I like that - and really miss him here this week.  Be happy, Stuart L. :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 26 September 2015, 17:33:14
For everyone poking around in Whaling who has worked and lived enough in Talk and Facebook to understand hashtags, what list of hashtags would you want to use most often if searching OW:W Talk?  NOT including ship names, as those are going to be automatically listed.

It would be helpful for dinosaurs like me setting that Talk up. 
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: AvastMH on 27 September 2015, 14:10:58
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-34352504

Insomniacs should apply - 3 a.m. super lunar eclipse! Last for next 30 years! ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Thursday Next on 27 September 2015, 14:31:59
Or, as an alternative strategy for insomniacs, listen to Max Richter's "Sleep", an 8-hour lullaby - you are meant to listen while asleep.  Broadcast live last night and now available to listen on the Radio 3 website: http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b06db5tv  I found it to be a beautiful and soothing piece of music, what I heard of it!  Though I was a little nervous that the composer might be intending to play a little joke on us and it would suddently go all 1812 Overture on us at 4am!
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Craig on 27 September 2015, 15:03:29
Or, join me in Quebec where the eclipse is at 9 PM this evening.  ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: AvastMH on 27 September 2015, 17:37:09
that's a bit more civilized - hopes it's looking good RIGHT NOW  ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 27 September 2015, 17:40:30
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-34352504

Insomniacs should apply - 3 a.m. super lunar eclipse! Last for next 30 years! ;D

It becomes full around 8pm by me - it was the previous one that was at my 4am.  Since it is the last for a very long time, I'm hoping our clouds continue to break up here so I can see it.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Michael on 27 September 2015, 20:17:13
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-34352504

Insomniacs should apply - 3 a.m. super lunar eclipse! Last for next 30 years! ;D

It becomes full around 8pm by me - it was the previous one that was at my 4am.  Since it is the last for a very long time, I'm hoping our clouds continue to break up here so I can see it.
No clouds here, but it will virtually all over by the time it's dark.  The moon rises 5 minutes before sunset and the eclipse will be over 15 minutes after that.  :'(
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Kevin on 27 September 2015, 20:33:17
Very clear in Seattle - might be an interesting moon rise over the Cascades.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Craig on 27 September 2015, 21:20:15
It's very clear here, near Ottawa, despite the light pollution from my street lamp.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 27 September 2015, 22:17:39
Clouds are disappointing here in Chicago.  Saw with a sliver still bright in a rift in the clouds, and then it got covered.  I'll try again in half an hour see if another rift has blown in from the west.

On the other hand there is a clear sky live feed from NASA.  (Their cam is also seeing black cloudy sky, but they are also streaming a clear sky live from Time on the same site.
http://www.rawstory.com/2015/09/watch-live-nasa-streams-blood-moon-eclipse-in-real-time/
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: studentforever on 28 September 2015, 02:17:24
Thin cloud here near Glasgow, no stars but 'misty' moon. Very romantic if no use for astronomy. You could just about make out the outline of the occluded moon when there was a sliver of moon still lit. Not worth watch watching whole event but I'm glad I saw the bit I watched, through the landing window so I didn't even need to go out!
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Caro on 28 September 2015, 02:56:18
Very clear night here south of London.
I saw the lunar eclipse at about 50% from my bedroom window, then went back to sleep.  :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: elizabeth on 28 September 2015, 05:23:33
 :'( :'( clouds just clouds so  :( And I do not think I will be here for the next one. But awesome pictures posted everywhere. ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: AvastMH on 28 September 2015, 07:27:59
Sorry to hear that clouds were bad for you last night Elizabeth  :(

Lucky here - 100% clear, saw it at 4am - just coming out of full eclipse - so beautiful..just had a sliver of white light on it which made the moon look ball-like rather than a sliver disc  :)

Me too x seeing the next one!  :( :(
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Hanibal94 on 28 September 2015, 07:39:05
Couldn't stay up last night because of exam today. Ah well.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Helen J on 28 September 2015, 09:47:41
Couldn't stay up last night because of exam today. Ah well.

But you have every chance of being around for the next one!  Hope the exam went well.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 28 September 2015, 17:00:52
Are we ever going to get the PM name drop down list 'FIXED'?
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 28 September 2015, 17:10:05
I wish.  Until we have the bugs worked out of the two new interfaces and the whole public launch thing probably in October, I'm under orders to even mention forum problems.

(I kind of want the interfaces to be right first also, so I didn't grumble about that.)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: elizabeth on 29 September 2015, 07:14:13
 
I wish.  Until we have the bugs worked out of the two new interfaces and the whole public launch thing probably in October, I'm under orders to even mention forum problems.

(I kind of want the interfaces to be right first also, so I didn't grumble about that.)
:o oh dear here we go again.   
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Hanibal94 on 29 September 2015, 07:28:19
I wonder if the public launch will be right on the 5th birthday of Old Weather (October 10th or 12th, I think)?
Seems like a good date to me.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Randi on 29 September 2015, 07:32:19
I think it is supposed to be late October - Kevin will be away doing research in early October.

Besides, I'd like to see Whaling running smoothly before we start something new.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Hanibal94 on 29 September 2015, 10:59:35
Did this forum just get reorganized? Geographical Help and What does THAT mean have been moved from the Dockyard to the Library.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Randi on 29 September 2015, 11:01:14
Yes.
Since they apply to whalers too, that seemed to make better sense.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: AvastMH on 29 September 2015, 14:16:58
Did this forum just get reorganized? Geographical Help and What does THAT mean have been moved from the Dockyard to the Library.

Sorry for the shock of the change hanibal. We're working on such a tight timescale that we've got to race through things - 90% of those things won't affect the system you know and love for some time to come. We just want to be sure that the GREAT library, that we have all worked so hard on, can rescue the newbies about to set sale on unknown Arctic waters because that will attract new friends to stay and play.

Thanks for you understanding - really!  :) :) :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: elizabeth on 02 October 2015, 00:51:15
Hello everyone finally got a new computer                 :o :o :o :o   oh dear! Have to re do everything what fun!  LOL
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 02 October 2015, 01:33:47
Hello everyone finally got a new computer                 :o :o :o :o   oh dear! Have to re do everything what fun!  LOL

Are you going to sit the Clunker out of site churning over Boinc runs or was it Cactus?
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: elizabeth on 02 October 2015, 01:47:58
Hello everyone finally got a new computer                 :o :o :o :o   oh dear! Have to re do everything what fun!  LOL

Are you going to sit the Clunker out of site churning over Boinc runs or was it Cactus?
Well I do not know yet what to do with the old one.  Must say my son got it in 2008 and it did survive the fire. The computer that I was using did not.  I must say that so far I see no difference between them.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Randi on 02 October 2015, 02:37:57
Hello everyone finally got a new computer                 :o :o :o :o   oh dear! Have to re do everything what fun!  LOL

Good luck!
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Caro on 02 October 2015, 02:41:42
Go for it, Liz. I bet your new computer is a bit faster than the one built in 2008.  :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Hanibal94 on 02 October 2015, 02:43:05
Hello everyone finally got a new computer                 :o :o :o :o   oh dear! Have to re do everything what fun!  LOL

Are you going to sit the Clunker out of site churning over Boinc runs or was it Cactus?

What do you mean by "Cactus", Stuart? I don't get it.
And good luck with your new computer, Liz! I always like getting a new one because, in my case at least, the new one is always so much better than the old one (If your old one was built in 2008, this should DEFINITELY be the case!).
My laptop will be turning 4 years old soon - I wonder how much longer it can last?
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Craig on 02 October 2015, 10:53:34
Regarding your old computer, my Compaq Presario is about 10 years old. It has been running 24/7 for almost 4 years now doing CPDN. When Microsoft stopped supporting XP last year I took everything off of it and it is now dedicated to BOINC. I bought a switch that allows me to easily go back and forth between my new computer and the old one using the same monitor, keyboard and speakers. My Presario doesn't contribute very much compared to my Lenova but every little bit helps.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Dean on 02 October 2015, 16:43:14

Well I do not know yet what to do with the old one.  Must say my son got it in 2008 and it did survive the fire. The computer that I was using did not.  I must say that so far I see no difference between them.

Fire??!!  :o  Did I miss something here??!!  Are you OK??!! :-*
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Randi on 02 October 2015, 16:46:49
The fire was a couple of years ago.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 02 October 2015, 17:53:36
For Hanibal

http://english.stackexchange.com/questions/218294/why-do-aussies-use-cactus-to-mean-dead-useless-or-broken (http://english.stackexchange.com/questions/218294/why-do-aussies-use-cactus-to-mean-dead-useless-or-broken)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Craig on 02 October 2015, 17:59:21
It's good to learn that at least one species introduced to Australia did some good   ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 02 October 2015, 18:21:40
For Hanibal

http://english.stackexchange.com/questions/218294/why-do-aussies-use-cactus-to-mean-dead-useless-or-broken (http://english.stackexchange.com/questions/218294/why-do-aussies-use-cactus-to-mean-dead-useless-or-broken)

For all of us northerners standing on our heads - I deduced what it meant but had no idea why.  Thanks.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: AvastMH on 03 October 2015, 05:04:39
that was a funny one!  :D  I've grown cactuses before - with no luck - they all ended up 'cactus'  :o ::) ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Hanibal94 on 03 October 2015, 07:41:37
Thanks Stuart - could you please not use local slang without providing a link?

Like this: Kummerspeck (https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Kummerspeck)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Thursday Next on 03 October 2015, 13:32:57
I wonder if Citroen will be marketing their new(ish) model, the C4 Cactus, under a different name in Australia?
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 03 October 2015, 16:15:09
Thanks Stuart - could you please not use local slang without providing a link?

Like this: Kummerspeck (https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Kummerspeck)

Yes boss ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: AvastMH on 03 October 2015, 16:38:09
Thanks Stuart - could you please not use local slang without providing a link?

Like this: Kummerspeck (https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Kummerspeck)

oh no!! That's what I've got!! Well - that and a very very long diet  ::) ::) ::)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: AvastMH on 03 October 2015, 16:39:29
I wonder if Citroen will be marketing their new(ish) model, the C4 Cactus, under a different name in Australia?
;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Craig on 03 October 2015, 17:15:34
Yeah, I would suggest Prickly Pear instead.  ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 03 October 2015, 18:21:41
Yeah, I would suggest Prickly Pear instead.  ;D


Nice one Craig.

 ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Dean on 03 October 2015, 19:24:21
The fire was a couple of years ago.

Got it!  Must be my scattered mind.  Of all the things I've lost in life, I miss my mind the most!   ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Michael on 03 October 2015, 19:46:01
The fire was a couple of years ago.

Got it!  Must be my scattered mind.  Of all the things I've lost in life, I miss my mind the most!   ;)

As one of my friends  ::) says, "Don't worry about it. It only gets worse!"
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 03 October 2015, 21:14:14
The fire was a couple of years ago.

Got it!  Must be my scattered mind.  Of all the things I've lost in life, I miss my mind the most!   ;)

As one of my friends  ::) says, "Don't worry about it. It only gets worse!"

But the benefit of getting old is you remember less of it.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: AvastMH on 04 October 2015, 15:55:24
The fire was a couple of years ago.

Got it!  Must be my scattered mind.  Of all the things I've lost in life, I miss my mind the most!   ;)

As one of my friends  ::) says, "Don't worry about it. It only gets worse!"

But the benefit of getting old is you remember less of it.

Um...What were we talking about here?  ;) ;) ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: elizabeth on 05 October 2015, 07:40:28
The fire was a couple of years ago.

Got it!  Must be my scattered mind.  Of all the things I've lost in life, I miss my mind the most!   ;)

As one of my friends  ::) says, "Don't worry about it. It only gets worse!"
Sorry here  but well said!  But what you all chatting about? missed that part ::) Oh darn no preview
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: elizabeth on 05 October 2015, 07:46:54
The fire was a couple of years ago.

Got it!  Must be my scattered mind.  Of all the things I've lost in life, I miss my mind the most!   ;)

As one of my friends  ::) says, "Don't worry about it. It only gets worse!"

But the benefit of getting old is you remember less of it.
ROFL  ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Randi on 05 October 2015, 08:03:24
We are chatting about your house fire ;D
http://forum.oldweather.org/index.php?topic=5.msg117213#msg117213
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Craig on 05 October 2015, 11:02:47
Good thing you didn't depend upon us to put it out, Elizabeth  ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Randi on 05 October 2015, 15:31:50
Hi szukacz!
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: szukacz on 05 October 2015, 15:38:20
Cordial greetings to the whole team, the creaking of an old barge :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 05 October 2015, 16:10:46
Hey, hi szukacz!!

I've missed you - will the English in the new whaling ships, and that you don't have to transcribe whole pages, maybe bring you back?
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: elizabeth on 07 October 2015, 07:16:17
We are chatting about your house fire ;D
http://forum.oldweather.org/index.php?topic=5.msg117213#msg117213
Oh dear that was bad  :( But life goes on.  :) trying out my new computer etc. getting stuck on several projects and trying to figure out what is happening here. ??? Oh darn no preview  :(
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Randi on 07 October 2015, 07:46:29
Preview works in Chrome...

For Firefox, see: http://forum.oldweather.org/index.php?topic=4392.msg115611#msg115611
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Hanibal94 on 08 October 2015, 07:35:40
This one is great.

I DO NOT WANT YOUR STUPID APP

I do not want your stupid app
I will not use this siloed c**p.
I do not like them, Sam-I-am.
I do not want this mobile spam!

Would you like them on your phone?
On your waking home screen shown?

No! And no and no and no!
I do not want your stupid app
I do not want these wares of c*p.
Your interstitials make me mad!
My ad blockers will make you sad.
I do not like them, Sam-I-am.
I do not want this mobile spam!

Don?t you want your content trapped?
Don?t you want your actions mapped?

Not on a tablet,
Not on a phablet.
Not on an Android on the bus,
Not on a rose-gold 6S Plus.
Let this trend begin to ebb
Redecentralize the web.

Would you? Could you? If they?re slick?
Would you? Could you? If they?re quick?
You can use this app offline.
Interruptions can be thine!

I would not, could not, just for speed.
LTE removes that need.
HTML5 can cache offline.
I do not want your pushes? chimes.
I do not want your stupid app
I will not use this siloed c**p!

Say! Would you log in and register?
And would you tell us if you are a mister?
Would you approve our permission list?
We?re sorry but we really must insist.
May we track your location in background?
For we have to know where you can be found.
You can just log in with Facebook!
(Without reading our privacy gobbledigook.)

Not with your privacy policy,
Not with your meaningless homily.
Not with your terms and conditions,
Not with your greedy permissions.
I want content hyperlinked,
I refuse to be hoodwinked.

I do not want your stupid app
I do not want these wares of c**p.
Let this trend begin to ebb
Redecentralize the web!

Here?s an offer out of kilter
Would you, if it photo-filtered?
If it let you post a Vine
If it let you share designs?
If this app let you create
Might you then participate?

Say! I might participate!
My objections dissipate!
If an app is for creation
It could meet my approbation.
If it is designed for makers,
Not to monetize for takers,
If so, well then, I mean, by ham,
I will download, Sam-I-am!

But if your app is for consumption
Do not count on my presumption.

I do not want your stupid app
I will not use this siloed c**p.
Your interstitials  make me mad!
My ad blockers will make you sad.
I do not like this, Sam-I-am.
I do not want this mobile spam!
Let this trend begin to ebb
RDECENTRALIZE THE WEB!!!
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: studentforever on 08 October 2015, 11:02:13
Feel better for that, I hope.
 :) ;)
At least you might understand why my mobile makes phone calls & sends texts, hasn't got a camera and doesn't link to the web. Make life quite peaceful.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Hanibal94 on 08 October 2015, 11:45:46
Feel better for that, I hope.
 :) ;)
At least you might understand why my mobile makes phone calls & sends texts, hasn't got a camera and doesn't link to the web. Make life quite peaceful.

Same here! Mine also has an alarm clock that can be set to go off on different times at different days of the week.
The only real social media stuff I do is an occasional Skype call, and, very rarely, someone from my college course will post something on Facebook, so then I check it out.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Michael on 08 October 2015, 13:17:57
Feel better for that, I hope.
 :) ;)
At least you might understand why my mobile makes phone calls & sends texts, hasn't got a camera and doesn't link to the web. Make life quite peaceful.

Same here! Mine also has an alarm clock that can be set to go off on different times at different days of the week.
The only real social media stuff I do is an occasional Skype call, and, very rarely, someone from my college course will post something on Facebook, so then I check it out.

Oh you silly people!  ;) I have a phone that plugs into a wall. No texts, no Skype, no camera, no caller ID, no apps. It's FABULOUS!  ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 08 October 2015, 14:12:59
Feel better for that, I hope.
 :) ;)
At least you might understand why my mobile makes phone calls & sends texts, hasn't got a camera and doesn't link to the web. Make life quite peaceful.

Same here! Mine also has an alarm clock that can be set to go off on different times at different days of the week.
The only real social media stuff I do is an occasional Skype call, and, very rarely, someone from my college course will post something on Facebook, so then I check it out.

Oh you silly people!  ;) I have a phone that plugs into a wall. No texts, no Skype, no camera, no caller ID, no apps. It's FABULOUS!  ;D

My land line died (the line into the apartment, not the phone) 15 years ago, and I replaced it with a cell number.  I have a "smart phone" because that's what the insurance company sent me when my original phone's battery self-destructed and it and its battery were obsolete.  But I'm still grandfathered into a cheap account that gives me no access to the internet.  I can call, text, set alarms to tell me when to get myself to the bus stop for appointments, and take pictures altho each one I email to myself costs me a 10 cent surcharge.  And I avoid texting anyone, I positively hate using that tiny keyboard but like to get auto-texts from the CTA telling exactly when my bus will be arriving at my stop.

Peaceful.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Thursday Next on 08 October 2015, 15:06:05
Feel better for that, I hope.
 :) ;)
At least you might understand why my mobile makes phone calls & sends texts, hasn't got a camera and doesn't link to the web. Make life quite peaceful.

Same here! Mine also has an alarm clock that can be set to go off on different times at different days of the week.
The only real social media stuff I do is an occasional Skype call, and, very rarely, someone from my college course will post something on Facebook, so then I check it out.

Oh you silly people!  ;) I have a phone that plugs into a wall. No texts, no Skype, no camera, no caller ID, no apps. It's FABULOUS!  ;D

No caller ID?  You mean you have to actually answer the phone to find out if it's a nuisance call trying to sell you something you don't want?
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: AvastMH on 08 October 2015, 15:34:24
I'm also in the telephonic stone-age. What's wrong with tin cans and string?  ;) ;D

Anyway - I had this bet with my neighbour that I'd try to get a set of really good recipes from the people calling (nuisance, but not pre-recorded rubbish) AND I pulled it off! It was sometime between xmas and new year a long time back - got a chap in Mumbai to give me his mum's best chicken curry recipe. As a vegetarian it is not up my street - and sadly it got lost  :(


Hanibal - great piece of poetry! I back the speaker all the way, I'll back spam blocking every day  ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Michael on 08 October 2015, 15:40:02

No caller ID?  You mean you have to actually answer the phone to find out if it's a nuisance call trying to sell you something you don't want?

Well, actually they are now spoofing IDs so it really doesn't help all that much.  :o Besides, if they won't go right away, I pretend they've convinced me and I tell them I'm going to get my credit card, and then I go back to working on OW!  Eventually they give up. ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: studentforever on 09 October 2015, 02:48:16
I only got the mobile when I went into hospital (we could use them with cameras disabled in the ward), texting seemed less intrusive and I don't actually like voicing on the mobile.  So I got a cheap & cheerful phone; when I was rehabbing I used to take it out with me as an SOS which I never used but my friends felt reassured.  It is quite handy as my NHS services send me text reminders (have to remember to switch it on now & then) but O2 don't make a fortune from me! Reminder to self - send a text to keep SIM card active.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Hanibal94 on 09 October 2015, 14:00:04
I just took a leap of faith and installed Windows 10 - and it worked!
The process took quite a while, but it went without a hitch.
However, I did have to correct quite a lot of privacy settings - so here's some hints for anyone else interested.

1. During the installation, DO NOT choose "Express Settings" when they ask for it (right after you log in). Instead, configure it yourself - that way, you can turn lots of invasive things off. The only one I left active was "Send error and diagnosis info to Microsoft".
2. Don't use Cortana. It's not necessary, and requires a LOT of your personal data to function. You can shut it off easily right after installation - just call up the Start menu, and Cortana will introduce itself - and give you the option to shut it off completely (ask Google for help if you need it).
3. Press Windows + I to bring up "Settings", click "Privacy" (the one with a padlock symbol) and go through all the tabs one by one. Shut off everything except the SmartScreen filter under "Basics".
The one thing you can't deactivate completely is "Diagnosis and Usage Data", the second drop-down menu under "Feedback and Diagnosis". All you can do is set that to "Basic".
4. Go back to the main Settings menu, go to "Updates and Security" (to the right of "Privacy") and go to Windows Update, click "Advanced Settings" and in the drop-down menu at the top, choose "Notify to schedule restart." That will stop your computer from doing auto-restarts to configure updates.

More info here: https://bgr.com/2015/07/30/windows-10-upgrade-installation-settings/
and here on the privacy: http://bgr.com/2015/07/31/windows-10-upgrade-spying-how-to-opt-out/

P.S. Since I have a German system, I may have gotten the names of different menus, tabs and stuff wrong. Hope you guys can manage - there should be plenty more help over the Internet.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Randi on 09 October 2015, 14:02:50
Thank You !
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 09 October 2015, 14:23:47
What Randi said.  Your instructions will keep me from making huge mistakes if I install that later this year.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: studentforever on 09 October 2015, 14:46:49
Now all I've got to do is to remember where the instructions are when I bite the bullet and move over to Windows 10!

Thanks for the hints & instructions.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Helen J on 09 October 2015, 15:30:38
Thanks hanibal - I've copied them and put them in my 'Computer' folder - now all I have to do is to remember they're there ....
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Thursday Next on 09 October 2015, 15:41:10
Thanks for all the tips, Hanibal.  I will be taking the plunge into Windows 10 before long and this is all very useful to know.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Hanibal94 on 09 October 2015, 15:52:18
For those who want to save my post for later: I recommend bookmarking it in your browser - here's the direct link.
http://forum.oldweather.org/index.php?topic=5.msg117921#msg117921

Make sure to review it right before installation - because Tip #1 has to be done during the installation itself.

And if you got any other Win10 questions, and Google Fu doesn't solve it, ask me. I'll see what I can do.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 09 October 2015, 16:13:14
Lovely to have an IT guy here, Hanibal.  :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Craig on 09 October 2015, 17:02:30
Have any of you who have upgraded to W10 notice any degradation in overall performance?
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Hanibal94 on 09 October 2015, 17:30:29
Have any of you who have upgraded to W10 notice any degradation in overall performance?

I just restarted it, and it took a while, but that may be more due to my computer being almost 4 years old - I fear it won't last much longer.
Plus, there were some updates and deleted programs to configure.
The only real issue I had so far was that videos suddenly stopped working - not just YouTube, but ALL videos, even local ones saved on my PC!
I did some testing and here's what was going on:
- Chrome: Videos wouldn't play at all
- Firefox: Videos would play, but no audio, and could not be stopped once started
- Edge (successor to Internet Explorer): Videos wouldn't play at all
- VLC Media Player on local stuff: Videos would play, but no audio.

So that's why I restarted the computer - which thankfully solved the problem.

Oh, and one other thing: The sound seems to be slightly louder than before, even though it's still set at 30%, and I'm using the same headphones as before.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Caro on 10 October 2015, 04:25:02
Have any of you who have upgraded to W10 notice any degradation in overall performance?

I've been using Win10 since early August (I think) and it has been problem-free. No degradation of performance in any way.
The upgrade was smooth; nothing was lost or damaged.
I like it.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Tegwen on 11 October 2015, 07:35:39
Have any of you who have upgraded to W10 notice any degradation in overall performance?

I allowed the free auto upgrade to take place about two weeks ago. Almost everything works exactly the same. However, I am having a lot of problems with Chrome since the upgrade. It frequently goes into "not responding" mode and the only way forward is to close it. It can then be restored, without any apparant loss of pages etc, but it is a pain.

I have given feedback to Microsoft including threatening to raise it with the competition commission for installing a program that disables the competition, but nothing so far, what a surprise!!
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Hanibal94 on 11 October 2015, 08:28:37
I allowed the free auto upgrade to take place about two weeks ago. Almost everything works exactly the same. However, I am having a lot of problems with Chrome since the upgrade. It frequently goes into "not responding" mode and the only way forward is to close it. It can then be restored, without any apparant loss of pages etc, but it is a pain.

I have given feedback to Microsoft including threatening to raise it with the competition commission for installing a program that disables the competition, but nothing so far, what a surprise!!

I haven't had any problems with Chrome. Maybe check to see if you have the latest version?
Or, you can always un- and then reinstall it (You can save your bookmarks first by exporting them, then import them again after reinstallation - ask Google for details on how to do that).

I have given feedback to Microsoft including threatening to raise it with the competition commission for installing a program that disables the competition, but nothing so far, what a surprise!!

Which competition-disabling program are you talking about?
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Craig on 11 October 2015, 09:02:49
I think Tegwen is suggesting that Microsoft is causing Google Chrome not to work properly because it is competition for its own browser.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Tegwen on 11 October 2015, 09:13:20
Exactly, thanks Craig
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Hanibal94 on 11 October 2015, 09:54:41
I don't think so - Chrome is working fine for me.
I will ask Caro if she has had any problems, since she got Win10 too.

Wait - according to this article, there is indeed a problem with Chrome:
http://www.ghacks.net/2015/09/15/google-chrome-sometimes-freezes-on-windows-10/

Quote
The only workaround that I found so far is to minimize Chrome and bring it back to the front afterwards. When I do that, the interface is updated and the actions that were carried out while it was frozen are displayed.

Sounds like it's just a bug, and not some malicious scheming from Microsoft.
There's always a lot of things to fix when a new Windows version comes out.
In the meantime, I recommend making sure you have the latest version of Chrome (which auto-updates itself by default, so you should) and reinstalling it if necessary.
And I really don't think this is sabotage - there's no evidence for that as far as I know. Don't be so quick to blame someone!
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 11 October 2015, 10:03:19
I've never yet seen a new massive program work without that kind of problem on launching - all of our OW interfaces included.  And the complexity of Windows is in a whole other class than OW.  In my head, I list the users of a newly launched OS as the rugged pioneers of cyber-space boldly going where no one has gone before.  I'm not at all surprised that ware written by another firm kicks up problems.  And none of it is intentional.

Me, I'm a stay-at-home scholar waiting until the pioneers have laid down streets and paving before I venture.  :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Dean on 11 October 2015, 19:29:32
I've never yet seen a new massive program work without that kind of problem on launching - all of our OW interfaces included.  And the complexity of Windows is in a whole other class than OW.  In my head, I list the users of a newly launched OS as the rugged pioneers of cyber-space boldly going where no one has gone before.  I'm not at all surprised that ware written by another firm kicks up problems.  And none of it is intentional.

Me, I'm a stay-at-home scholar waiting until the pioneers have laid down streets and paving before I venture.  :)

I'm a Mac. I don't do Windows!   ::)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 11 October 2015, 20:09:51
You take the safe boat down the river instead of climbing mountains? ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 12 October 2015, 00:20:23
Since OW 1 was launched on 12th October 2010 ...

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-ieh6yGFLN5Q/VhnJw2oA6JI/AAAAAAAADHk/IwYQPE9vW-8/w606-h506-no/Happy%2BBirthday%2BoldWeather.JPG)




And to our Canadian members,

(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_MtiURjdSLfw/TLEnI1Qgf0I/AAAAAAAAABA/dyAzdmeZWQk/s1600/Happy+Thanksgiving+(Canadian).gif)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Caro on 12 October 2015, 02:36:00
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-ruwPr-OHoVg/Vhqxl3i00YI/AAAAAAAARGU/YTJHzSJQYho/s1152-Ic42/ow%2525205th%252520birthday.jpg?gl=GB)

 ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: jil on 12 October 2015, 03:12:18
Happy Birthday to us!
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Helen J on 12 October 2015, 07:27:45
And many more of them!
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Randi on 12 October 2015, 08:13:48
Henry V warship Holigost 'may be buried in River Hamble' (http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-berkshire-34503044)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: studentforever on 12 October 2015, 12:11:34
Be fascinating if they prove it. Bet they don't find the logs though!
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: AvastMH on 12 October 2015, 17:53:14
A VERY HAPPY 5th BIRTHDAY TO US ALL...AND MANY MORE TO COME

(http://imageshack.com/a/img907/9015/uRQGVG.jpg)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Michael on 13 October 2015, 13:19:03
Our elections should be so relaxed! Canada is nearing the end of a very long federal election, but we won't see this (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oU1oHO9Z6GI), I'm sure.  :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 13 October 2015, 13:47:21
Us too south of you.  Although there is at least one candidate that might be the bear.  :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Michael on 13 October 2015, 13:49:28
Us too south of you.  Although there is at least one candidate that might be the bear.  :)
Yes, but you still have over a year to go, we are in the last week, thank goodness!
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 13 October 2015, 13:58:48
Us too south of you.  Although there is at least one candidate that might be the bear.  :)
Yes, but you still have over a year to go, we are in the last week, thank goodness!

 :'( :'( :'(
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 13 October 2015, 14:19:26
Got this notice thru Facebook - it looks to be a hard winter coming for the whole northern hemisphere.  I'm not sure what effect it will have on southern hemisphere summer, but it has to also be out of balance.

El Nino Strengthening (http://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/IOTD/view.php?id=86776&linkId=17911037)

(http://eoimages.gsfc.nasa.gov/images/imagerecords/86000/86776/pacificssha_js2_2015277.jpg)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 13 October 2015, 16:54:14
http://www.bom.gov.au/climate/updates/articles/a008-el-nino-and-australia.shtml (http://www.bom.gov.au/climate/updates/articles/a008-el-nino-and-australia.shtml)

Potential effects of El Ni?o on Australia include:
Reduced rainfall
Warmer temperatures
Shift in temperature extremes
Increased frost risk
Reduced tropical cyclone numbers
Later monsoon onset
Increased fire danger in southeast Australia
Decreased alpine snow depths
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 13 October 2015, 16:59:48
A whole lot of global not-fun.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: AvastMH on 13 October 2015, 17:07:38
the National UK weather for the week ahead last Sunday said that you folk up your way, Janet, are going to get super Arctic blasts any day now - stay warm!!!  :D
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 13 October 2015, 18:02:37
the National UK weather for the week ahead last Sunday said that you folk up your way, Janet, are going to get super Arctic blasts any day now - stay warm!!!  :D

Well, Autumnal cold, yes - but apparently no frost yet near the lake.  Nice sweater weather.  :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: HatterJack on 14 October 2015, 04:45:48
I was looking back at the logs a couple weeks back and noticed conditions similar at this point in 1887 as to this year (weather patterns, ocean temperatures, and the general movement of storm systems in the pacific). The winter of 1887-1888 was one of the most severe to hit North America. I'm hoping we're not seeing a repeat of that, but I don't know what conditions in the Atlantic were like back then, so it's hard to tell.

All our local people are predicting "an unusually warm winter with typical precipitation" but then these are the same people who shut down our city a couple years ago after predicting an ice storm that never came and ended up having to issue a public apology for costing the city tens of millions in lost revenue. Kind of hard to take them seriously after that.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 16 October 2015, 01:35:29
Can anybody help please.

When doing a file cleanup on my PC using CCleaner I keep losing my Firefox drop down entries that I have created.
I can opt not to delete entries in the CC list but I do not know what that specific entry list is called.

My fingers would appreciate help.
TIA
Stuart.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 16 October 2015, 02:17:38
Local TV news said it was the Hottest September in the world since records were taken in 1891.

Good job it only reached 40c in Sept at my place in Oz.
Oct looking like it will be hotter.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Maikel on 16 October 2015, 02:42:02
Can anybody help please.

When doing a file cleanup on my PC using CCleaner I keep losing my Firefox drop down entries that I have created.
I can opt not to delete entries in the CC list but I do not know what that specific entry list is called.

My fingers would appreciate help.
TIA
Stuart.

In the Cleaner section, click the Applications tab.
Find Firefox and disable Saved Form Information.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 16 October 2015, 02:51:03
Can anybody help please.

When doing a file cleanup on my PC using CCleaner I keep losing my Firefox drop down entries that I have created.
I can opt not to delete entries in the CC list but I do not know what that specific entry list is called.

My fingers would appreciate help.
TIA
Stuart.

In the Cleaner section, click the Applications tab.
Find Firefox and disable Saved Form Information.

Thanks Maikel.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: AvastMH on 16 October 2015, 17:07:32
I was looking back at the logs a couple weeks back and noticed conditions similar at this point in 1887 as to this year (weather patterns, ocean temperatures, and the general movement of storm systems in the pacific). The winter of 1887-1888 was one of the most severe to hit North America. I'm hoping we're not seeing a repeat of that, but I don't know what conditions in the Atlantic were like back then, so it's hard to tell.

All our local people are predicting "an unusually warm winter with typical precipitation" but then these are the same people who shut down our city a couple years ago after predicting an ice storm that never came and ended up having to issue a public apology for costing the city tens of millions in lost revenue. Kind of hard to take them seriously after that.

My neighbour told me we would have an Indian Summer for three weeks ( it did about 3 days) and would then have a long an immensely cold winter. Where does this stuff come from?  ::) ::) ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: AvastMH on 16 October 2015, 17:08:24
Local TV news said it was the Hottest September in the world since records were taken in 1891.

Good job it only reached 40c in Sept at my place in Oz.
Oct looking like it will be hotter.

Stay cool Stuart! Drink plenty of fluids!  :D
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 17 October 2015, 04:40:51
What I meant to say is that The Whole World temperature was hotter in September.
 I guess they even out the highs and lows.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: AvastMH on 17 October 2015, 08:13:10
 ;D ah! I see!

Even so - drink plenty of fluids and stay cool Stuart  ;) ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Thursday Next on 17 October 2015, 13:36:17

My neighbour told me we would have an Indian Summer for three weeks ( it did about 3 days) and would then have a long an immensely cold winter. Where does this stuff come from?  ::) ::) ;D

Well. apparently, the Wildfowl Trust at Slimbridge has had its earliest ever arrival of an overwintering Bewick's swan, which is being interpreted as a warning of a severe winter ... so that's where some of the stuff is coming from!
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Michael on 21 October 2015, 15:26:33
No one has mentioned:

Happy Back to the Future Day!
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Thursday Next on 21 October 2015, 15:45:02
No-one seems to have mentioned either:

Happy Trafalgar Day!

(This is a celebration of something that actually happened  :) )
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 21 October 2015, 15:57:44
or the Battle of Ball?s Bluff
Civil War 21/10/1861 
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 21 October 2015, 17:01:36
No one has mentioned:

Happy Back to the Future Day!

Cubs' fans in Chicago are mourning the failure to predict today for sure - we wanted Back to the Future to be right!!
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: AvastMH on 21 October 2015, 17:58:35
Inspired by you all I'm going for a combo pack here - Back to the future - Agincourt.

It's not for another 4 days (25th October) but it's 600 years this year!

And the moral of the story - don't be a stick in the mud! ;) ;D
The English had dysentery and wanted to get home for the harvest. The French turned up in their best kit - and got bogged down in gloop. The rest is history.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Hanibal94 on 22 October 2015, 04:11:39
What about the 120th anniversary of the world's most famous train wreck?

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/19/Train_wreck_at_Montparnasse_1895.jpg/300px-Train_wreck_at_Montparnasse_1895.jpg)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: HatterJack on 22 October 2015, 04:54:49
How about the oldest active duty warship being launched?

On Back to the Future Day (http://"https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Constitution")
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Hanibal94 on 22 October 2015, 15:46:09
I just read an interesting article about Claus Bergen, a German painter who specialized in warships and was REALLY good at his job - he once even spent a few weeks on a submarine in 1917!
The article is in German, but there's a separate gallery of his works - here's the direct link to that, in case anyone's interested.

http://www.spiegel.de/fotostrecke/claus-bergen-marine-maler-im-ersten-und-zweiten-weltkrieg-fotostrecke-130623.html
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: JamesAPrattIII on 22 October 2015, 16:35:55
I agree Bergen was a really great painter of warships. I have seen a number of them over the years in books mainly the ones dealing with the battle of Jutland. If the SMS Seydlitz doesn't look in all that good of shape the ship suffered massive battle damage at the Battle of Jutland and barely made it home. After the Battle I read he was allowed to sail with the German High Sea Fleet on orders of the Kaiser which helped him with his painting of the battle. When the painting were finished a number of German naval officers looked them over very closely and couldn't find a single detail wrong! I think one or more Time Life books do show some of his paintings.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Michael on 23 October 2015, 14:29:42
Hurricane Patricia soon to touch land in Mexico was reported to have a central pressure of 880 mb (25.99 in). This is only 10 mb higher than the record low atmospheric pressure:
Quote
The lowest non-tornadic atmospheric pressure ever measured was 870 hPa (25.69 inHg), set on 12 October 1979, during Typhoon Tip in the western Pacific Ocean.


Can you feel your ears pop?  :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: AvastMH on 23 October 2015, 15:56:55
Sorry - I couldn't hear you - what did you say? My ears were popping....  ;) ;) ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Hanibal94 on 25 October 2015, 10:34:58
Hello all.

Don't know if you heard, but a new type of movie rating will be coming out very soon:
http://www.theonion.com/article/mpaa-adds-new-rating-warn-audiences-films-not-base-51651
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: AvastMH on 25 October 2015, 11:14:16
 ;D Nice one Hanibal - it has a slight feel of an April 1st joke about it  ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 25 October 2015, 11:32:16
Hanibal, you found The Onion (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Onion)!!  Used to be my favorite free newspaper when I want to free myself from coping with the rigors of reality and indulge in intelligent satire.  Stopped paper printing a couple of years ago, but still online.  I hope you read it often and enjoy!  :) :) 
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 25 October 2015, 15:17:25
HI Janet.
Maybe you could use a bit of the Onion on  Mincemeat Day (https://www.daysoftheyear.com/days/mincemeat-day/)(26 Oct)
Stuart.

 ::)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: AvastMH on 26 October 2015, 13:44:33
love love love mincemeat :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Hanibal94 on 26 October 2015, 13:55:20
Hanibal, you found The Onion (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Onion)!!  Used to be my favorite free newspaper when I want to free myself from coping with the rigors of reality and indulge in intelligent satire.  Stopped paper printing a couple of years ago, but still online.  I hope you read it often and enjoy!  :) :)

Actually, I've known about it for years. I just don't look at it very often because only a few of their articles make me laugh - like the one on "O for Original". That was great.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Hanibal94 on 27 October 2015, 10:32:38
Interesting news on a recent hurricane:

(http://i.crackedcdn.com/phpimages/article/8/4/8/468848_v1.gif)

 :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 27 October 2015, 10:46:59
And what a great relief that was.  :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Craig on 27 October 2015, 13:17:24
Yes, that hurricane, had it maintained its force, would have gone against the fairness principle which states that the countries that bear the brunt of the damage should not be the ones who were not responsible for causing the problem in the first place. Unfortunately, the POWERS THAT BE rarely respect this principle.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: AvastMH on 27 October 2015, 16:58:24
goodness me - well done for everyone who survived that beastie - and 'yes' we shouldn't be causing those hurricanes.  :-[
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Michael on 28 October 2015, 11:52:40
A drone was flying over the west coast of Vancouver Island, filming seagulls feeding on herring, and they captured a video (http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/orca-tosses-seal-way-up-in-rare-mid-hunt-sighting-1.3288096) of an orca tossing a full grown harbour seal 80 feet (25 m) into the air.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 28 October 2015, 12:12:59
 :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 28 October 2015, 14:23:22
FYI Greenland is melting.
http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2015/10/27/world/greenland-is-melting-away.html?_r=0 (http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2015/10/27/world/greenland-is-melting-away.html?_r=0)

And on a more technical note
http://nsidc.org/greenland-today/ (http://nsidc.org/greenland-today/)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: AvastMH on 28 October 2015, 14:28:12
well -that's pretty depressing -about Greenland. Watching that seal suffer a nasty end wasn't too good either  :(
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 28 October 2015, 14:53:05
well -that's pretty depressing -about Greenland. Watching that seal suffer a nasty end wasn't too good either  :(

Sorry Joan, hope you do not have nightmares tonight.  :'(
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: AvastMH on 28 October 2015, 15:13:09
I won't Stuart - hope springs eternal  ;) :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Caro on 30 October 2015, 04:12:28
Welcome back, everyone.  :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: HatterJack on 30 October 2015, 04:18:58
Forum is back up and running. I can do the happy dance now.

::goes back to burying his head in research instead::
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: propriome on 30 October 2015, 04:24:07
:D :D :D
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: studentforever on 30 October 2015, 04:25:30
Quite, I was beginning to panic.  :'( All that editing and NO FORUM.   >:(  Thank heavens everyone is back.  :)  :)  :)


Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Caro on 30 October 2015, 04:27:02
OK.  :)
If it happens again, dear people, join us on Old Weather: Talk (https://www.zooniverse.org/projects/zooniverse/old-weather/talk/).
Chat (https://www.zooniverse.org/projects/zooniverse/old-weather/talk/148/10409/) is open in the Dockside Cafe, all hours.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: philip.brohan on 30 October 2015, 04:54:53
Thanks to Chris S. and Adam for getting us back online.

OK.  :)
If it happens again, dear people, join us on Old Weather: Talk (https://www.zooniverse.org/projects/zooniverse/old-weather/talk/).
Chat (https://www.zooniverse.org/projects/zooniverse/old-weather/talk/148/10409/) is open in the Dockside Cafe, all hours.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Caro on 30 October 2015, 06:14:29
Hear hear.  :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: jil on 30 October 2015, 06:33:03
Yeah - we're back!!!
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Randi on 30 October 2015, 08:40:42
(http://www.desismileys.com/smileys/desismileys_6569.gif)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Hanibal94 on 30 October 2015, 08:51:37
At last!

What was the exact problem, BTW? I'm curious to know!
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 30 October 2015, 08:56:34
Don't know, just who fixed it.  That's good enuf for me.  :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Maikel on 30 October 2015, 08:59:57
Mmm, if you're evil thinking, you would start to wonder whether the good people at Zooniverse are trying to slowly kill off Old Weather. :P

Half-fledged interfaces, barely beta test worthy, are released to the public.
The hardly readable Talk community is promoted as the next best thing.
This excellent forum isn't supported any more, bugs aren't solved, server crashes are left unattended.

Good thing I'm not that evil thinking. ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Hanibal94 on 30 October 2015, 09:14:13
Yes, it does look quite suspicious, Maikel.   ;)

I think it might be a case of too much quantity, not enough quality: The PTB spend too much time launching new projects and not enough time maintaining what has already been started.
Plus, the vast number of projects make it hard for people to focus, so it takes longer for any one project to get 100% finished off.
Moo Zoo, for example, took six years.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: studentforever on 30 October 2015, 09:17:39
My problem was that while chatting is lovely I wanted to access the pages & pages of useful info which people have amassed over the years for the aid of transcribers & especially editors. Geographic help, for example, is HERE not on 'Talk'.  So are all the explanations of weird  procedures & equipment in our RN logs. So please, please OW staff, keep us on-line and save the sanity & lower the blood pressure of hard working editors.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Caro on 30 October 2015, 09:38:21
We intend to move some of the reference material (Geographic Help, for instance) to Talk so it will be accessible in both places, but it all takes time, and we have many things to do at the moment.

The Editorial Office cannot be moved to Talk so for this and other reasons, as far as I know, this forum will be maintained for as long as we need it.
We're hoping for an upgrade when the new interfaces and Talk are working as they should. Be nice, now.  ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: philip.brohan on 30 October 2015, 10:55:01
Well, since you ask.

Initial diagnosis:

'the PHP sites instance wasn't authorised to connect to the database any more'.

Further investigation gave:

'OK, so I have no idea what happened. There's no entry in the log from anyone revoking its access.'

So basically the forum decided, all by itself, that it wasn't allowed to access its own database. We're blaming it on some unspecified foul-up by Amazon Web Services (AWS - the system on which all our sites run). The outage lasted so long because the usual fixes (reboot the server) didn't work. Sorry for the outage, and well done the ops team, who eventually managed to work out what had happened (if not why).




At last!

What was the exact problem, BTW? I'm curious to know!
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Randi on 30 October 2015, 10:59:37
Thank you, Philip!

I was curious too.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Kathy on 30 October 2015, 11:07:21
Why can't the Editorial Office be moved?  Is it because of its status as a board? 

I'm just wondering....

I have worked on 2 major document management systems - and was on the Help Desk for one of them - we are talking hundreds of thousands, if not millions of documents, with millions of data points.  Both of them went thru MAJOR redesigns - trust me, this redesign/launch seems to be going ok.

My favorite bug from one of the redesigns involved the HELP button - when you clicked on it, you got a message to click on the HELP button  ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Caro on 30 October 2015, 11:39:41
Why can't the Editorial Office be moved?  Is it because of its status as a board? 
....

My favorite bug from one of the redesigns involved the HELP button - when you clicked on it, you got a message to click on the HELP button  ;D

Talk has no facility for editor status.
Therefore, we can't make a hidden board for the editors to use.
This applies to shipherds too.

...

My kind of HELP button!  :-* ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 30 October 2015, 12:45:03
We can eventually - after at least one more essential change to our current Talk or more likely two - move EO to this Panoptes Talk, so it ain't gonna happen while they are fixing our interfaces.  This version of Talk has functions that put it head and shoulders above the capabilities of all older versions.  There is no way on earth anyone is going to get me to ask for that while they are making our definitely injured ready for real use and public launch.  Or the month after that while we all catch our breath again.

Like Galaxy Zoo Forum (http://www.galaxyzooforum.org/), the old forum would become locked but all archives can be read as a library of paper books - and search function works only if you were a member before it was locked and can still sign in.  I've already figured out that we can live with the all archives boards being locked but readable as not one of them as been added to in the last 12 months, but everything reference in the active EO boards will need to be transferred.  And if that gets suggested as to be done in what's left of 2015, I least will get way overloaded.  We need to work with the new Talk enough so it is actually routine first.

And for some of them, like abbreviations and outside links, someone other than your mods is going to have to condense all the editor replies and additions into a new master list that will be easier to transfer - we are all kind of at our limit right now.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: AvastMH on 30 October 2015, 14:33:24
Yesterday my view of the new forum changed. From...'aaaggghhhh!' to - 'phew! what a relief to have somewhere to meet up'. Which I guess helps my head get around the changes :D

Caro's even made sure we've got our word games installed  ;D

So just now, and despite all the changes..I'm feeling reasonably.....chilled out:

(http://i.imgur.com/FSJ8RNj.gif)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 30 October 2015, 15:52:04
Yep - just don't threaten us with another big project until we've recovered from this one.  :)


(https://everythingabya.files.wordpress.com/2013/09/tumblr_mdajq5cjld1rj50pho1_500.png)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: elizabeth on 31 October 2015, 09:00:09
Yep - just don't threaten us with another big project until we've recovered from this one.  :)


(https://everythingabya.files.wordpress.com/2013/09/tumblr_mdajq5cjld1rj50pho1_500.png)
:) Oh my! first and foremost I hope this post.    Hello everyone, I see just a few changes here and there.  :-\   Now you might get a glimpse of why I freaked out when the old Galaxyzoo Forum went down.  oh darn preview still not working.  That's okay because all of you will let me know of any typo's.  I have been, I hope helping out on another project  or two.  So I am in kind of a shock here.  The new thing ok  but I was very happy to get here.  :) I truly hope this forum stays active! The new ones  are  not the same very hard to communicate  on. ect  Liz  oh here goes
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: AvastMH on 31 October 2015, 13:27:50
I'm very grateful that you said "The new ones  are  not the same very hard to communicate  on. ect " Elizabeth.  :) I find the new one very grim. I don't think that Chris Lintott ever thought that the forum would be as difficult as it has turned out to be with the new style on Panoptes. I'm still stunned by it. As I've said before I don't care what the technical background is - but visually this works very very well, so it ain't broke and it shouldn't be being fixed  :(
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 01 November 2015, 17:41:13
Happy Birthday Mr Boole.
I will leave it up to others to make up puns using and/or/not/ etc.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Craig on 01 November 2015, 20:21:38
That would be very boolish, Stuart.  ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Michael on 01 November 2015, 20:36:52
That would be very boolish, Stuart.  ;D

Boolish but most logical.  ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Hanibal94 on 02 November 2015, 02:41:03
Google already did a great one with their latest Doodle.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 02 November 2015, 02:49:12
Google already did a great one with their latest Doodle.

That was what I was referring to.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Maikel on 02 November 2015, 06:39:35
Saving the memory of the boy hero - Jack Cornwell
https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/jack-cornwell--3#/ (https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/jack-cornwell--3#/)

Drawing of the hero
Quote
We are incredibly passionate about telling the stories of the people who served and still serve in the Royal Navy. Our goal is to keep their memory alive and enable the generations of people to learn about them and be inspired by them.

As part of our preparations for the Battle of Jutland centenary commemorations next year, we purchased a very unique large charcoal drawing of boy hero Jack Cornwell, who was only 16-years-old when he died fighting for his country in the battle.
(https://c1.iggcdn.com/indiegogo-media-prod-cld/image/upload/c_limit,w_620/v1446051156/ekpnelae3njatzcwqzlf.jpg)

Quote
Bearing mortal wounds and awaiting orders, Jack remained at his post on his ship HMS Chester. He died shortly after the battle but his courage was recognised when he was awarded a Victoria Cross medal posthumously for honourable conduct.

https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/jack-cornwell--3#/ (https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/jack-cornwell--3#/)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: studentforever on 02 November 2015, 07:06:30
There is a memorial to those who died on HMS Chester in Chester Cathedral and replica medals of Jack Cornwell.

He was a Boy Scout & the Jack Cornwell medal was awarded by the Scout Association.

http://newhamstory.com/forums/index.php?topic=550.0
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Kathy on 04 November 2015, 21:56:35
WOW!
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/capital-weather-gang/wp/2015/11/03/pic-of-the-week-surfs-up-for-snow-lovers-incomparable-kelvin-helmholtz-clouds-in-breckenridge/?tid=sm_fb (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/capital-weather-gang/wp/2015/11/03/pic-of-the-week-surfs-up-for-snow-lovers-incomparable-kelvin-helmholtz-clouds-in-breckenridge/?tid=sm_fb)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 04 November 2015, 23:09:08
Amazing!!
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 05 November 2015, 00:39:37
Neat. Would not like to get caught in the glider in that wave.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Randi on 05 November 2015, 07:39:13
Victoria Cross heroes of World War One (http://www.bbc.com/news/in-pictures-34697730)

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Albert Ball was known as Britain's best aviator, a reputation earned while serving with the Royal Flying Corps, with 44 confirmed and 25 unconfirmed kills.

He wrote: "I hate this game. But it is the only thing one must do just now. Won't it be lovely when all this beastly killing is over and we can just enjoy ourselves and not hurt anyone?"

Quote
John "Jack" Travers Cornwell was a boy 1st class on HMS Chester during the Battle of Jutland.

Only 16 years old, he courageously stuck to his guns throughout and died of injuries soon after.

He was the youngest VC winner of World War One.
(Shown wearing an HMS Lancaster cap)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: AvastMH on 05 November 2015, 14:59:59
It is so outside my sphere of understanding that I simply can't imagine what those brave men went through...quite astounding  :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Tegwen on 07 November 2015, 07:48:51
Victoria Cross heroes of World War One (http://www.bbc.com/news/in-pictures-34697730)

Quote
Albert Ball was known as Britain's best aviator, a reputation earned while serving with the Royal Flying Corps, with 44 confirmed and 25 unconfirmed kills.

He wrote: "I hate this game. But it is the only thing one must do just now. Won't it be lovely when all this beastly killing is over and we can just enjoy ourselves and not hurt anyone?"

Quote
John "Jack" Travers Cornwell was a boy 1st class on HMS Chester during the Battle of Jutland.

Only 16 years old, he courageously stuck to his guns throughout and died of injuries soon after.

He was the youngest VC winner of World War One.
(Shown wearing an HMS Lancaster cap)

Albert Ball was from Nottingham. My surname is Ball and my family are from there too. My grandfather, who was in the artillery in WW1 in both France & Gallipoli apparantly claimed a relation to him, but my dad's generation were never able to prove it and it would be fairly distant if it existed at all.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: AvastMH on 07 November 2015, 09:41:21
To anyone really into family histories that would be a very tempting trail to follow  :) 
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: HatterJack on 07 November 2015, 19:19:23
To anyone really into family histories that would be a very tempting trail to follow  :)

Don't go giving me any ideas lol
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 07 November 2015, 20:20:16
To anyone really into family histories that would be a very tempting trail to follow  :)

Don't go giving me any ideas lol

It goes beyond what those of us separated from the British archives by oceans can do because all the links to be looked for are all one to three generations before the WW1 records we know of.  A real shame, but true.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: studentforever on 08 November 2015, 00:45:33
Unfortunately for Nottinghamshire you may be right. My ancestry is North West & we have many records on-line back to 1837 for Births, Marriages & Deaths and some church records are available from various sites including the Mormon ones & some local family history, based on County,  which are free as well as the paid for family history ones such as Ancestry. But I'm not sure about Nottingham.

Then  for the whole country the released census returns (1841-1911) have the indexes on-line in various free sites & more data available, including scans of the pages, from the subscription sites. But I've got a lot from my home in Scotland without having to physically visit record offices or churches to consult their archives but if I want to chase up some lines I will have to travel.

Much of the free data was transcribed by volunteers!
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 08 November 2015, 01:02:07
Unfortunately for Nottinghamshire you may be right. My ancestry is North West & we have many records on-line back to 1837 for Births, Marriages & Deaths and some church records are available from various sites including the Mormon ones & some local family history, based on County,  which are free as well as the paid for family history ones such as Ancestry. But I'm not sure about Nottingham.

Then  for the whole country the released census returns (1841-1911) have the indexes on-line in various free sites & more data available, including scans of the pages, from the subscription sites. But I've got a lot from my home in Scotland without having to physically visit record offices or churches to consult their archives but if I want to chase up some lines I will have to travel.

Much of the free data was transcribed by volunteers!

I used to do FreeBDM.org.uk before OW and I thought the handwriting was bad there, not a patch on OW.   ::)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: studentforever on 08 November 2015, 01:13:36
Came across this article in the good old Beeb. For those of you transcribing the early US whalers it might link to some of your logs.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-merseyside-34725621
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Randi on 08 November 2015, 05:26:19
Thanks!
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 08 November 2015, 12:41:05
Cool!!  :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 08 November 2015, 13:19:19
Came across this article in the good old Beeb. For those of you transcribing the early US whalers it might link to some of your logs.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-merseyside-34725621

I got curious and googled to see if the CSS Shenandoah's logbooks still exist anywhere.  Not only is the logbook in existence, it is local to me in the Chicago History Museum (http://www.chicagohistory.org/)!  They purchased from a private estate in 1923 the C.S.S. Shenandoah logbook [manuscript], 1864 Oct. 16-1865 Oct. 23 (http://explore.chicagocollections.org/marcxml/chicagohistory/30/3f4mr3v/).

Any of our scientists want to ask them to scan a log that circumnavigates the globe and visits the arctic in 1865? 8)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: AvastMH on 08 November 2015, 13:26:37
oh that would be some cool logbook!  8) 8) :D
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: JamesAPrattIII on 08 November 2015, 22:18:36
I have some information on Albert Ball he didn't get 44 confirmed and 25 unconfirmed victories. He did get 44 claims which include DD FTL OOC (Driven Down, Forced to land , Out of Control) which would not be counted as victories in most other air services in WW I. Note in his wiki bio on his claims list there are few known German killed and wounded.
 I am a member of the League of WW I Aviation Historians, see over the Front magazine and sites like theaerodrome.com or the aviation section of the Great war forum. Lets just say a lot of research has been done but nobody can match up many of balls claims with known german losses.

For a brief look at who got who you might want to start with the book "Bloody April Black September"

I hope this is of some interest.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: elizabeth on 09 November 2015, 07:00:48
Hi, everyone just checking in. Hope all is well........... I have been stuck and I do mean stuck over on Science Gossip ... I believe I have become addicted.  ::) Lots of fun learning something new every day!  Was hoping to see changes here on the forum.   :( I see the same problems as the last time I was here.  but who has the power of
Voodo.  You guys do. Go for it. LIZ
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Caro on 09 November 2015, 09:10:04
We wish. ;) Nice to see you here, Liz.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 09 November 2015, 14:59:48
Really cool Google Doodle celebrating Hedy Lamarr's 101st birthday - honoring her roles as a chemist and radar inventor/engineer as well as being a high class movie star.  :)

https://www.youtube.com/embed/Z0gu2QhV1dc
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: AvastMH on 09 November 2015, 15:56:51
brilliant!! I knew that she had been a scientist - she's amazing!
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: JamesAPrattIII on 09 November 2015, 16:46:51
The CSS Shenandoah's log books would be a interesting do for this site. There were a number of books written on this ship. Also several of the ships officers also kept diaries. Add to this the Civil war OR.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: elizabeth on 10 November 2015, 06:17:36
We wish. ;) Nice to see you here, Liz.
That bad.   :(  Give it time maybe it will get better!  I hope. :) oh darn Preview still not working.  ..................................................Well people work to do. 
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Maikel on 10 November 2015, 08:19:27
Since Sunday, when the developer have been busy introducing new bugs, or so it seems, the forum's e-mail notification doesn't work for me any more. :(
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 10 November 2015, 09:10:41
Since Sunday, when the developer have been busy introducing new bugs, or so it seems, the forum's e-mail notification doesn't work for me any more. :(

The mods noticed this, and since the email notifying us of reported bad posts has also been shut down, the problem has been reported.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Randi on 11 November 2015, 11:06:54
InstaAgent app pulled after 'harvesting passwords' (http://www.bbc.com/news/34787402)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: AvastMH on 11 November 2015, 15:37:25
I don't think that Apple will be very happy about that. Oopsie!  :o
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Randi on 12 November 2015, 09:40:24
Norway: Purple 'jellyfish slime' coats northern fjord (http://www.bbc.com/news/blogs-news-from-elsewhere-34787415)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: AvastMH on 12 November 2015, 15:29:09
..amazing - um - might not help margarine sales? Then again I never saw purple margarine... ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 12 November 2015, 17:19:35
Thankfully, it has nothing to with margarine.  Which I haven't bought since college days - nor butter for that matter.  I use olive oil

Quote
Wiki:
The basic method of making margarine today consists of emulsifying a blend of vegetable oils and fats, which can be modified using fractionation, interesterification, and/or hydrogenation, with skimmed milk, chilling the mixture to solidify it and working it to improve the texture.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Caro on 13 November 2015, 02:37:52
I've been meaning to post this article about the stunning lenticulars seen in South Africa last weekend:
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-11-10/lenticular-ufo-clouds-over-cape-town-and-other-weird-formations/6926526
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Randi on 13 November 2015, 06:11:04
WOW!
They would certainly explain a lot of "flying saucer" sightings ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 13 November 2015, 07:37:39
Fabulously interesting clouds, never seen anything like them in real time.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Hanibal94 on 13 November 2015, 08:04:49
Fabulously interesting clouds, never seen anything like them in real time.

Same here - thanks for posting, Caro!
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Caro on 13 November 2015, 09:46:42
I was reminded by this pic from Twitter.  :o

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CToqUBBWcAAHekG.jpg:large)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: AvastMH on 13 November 2015, 15:04:27
Wild!!  :o
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Hanibal94 on 14 November 2015, 11:40:08
Here's something cool I found: Microsoft has built a tool for detecting emotions in human faces.
https://www.projectoxford.ai/demo/emotion#detection

You can have it evaluate your own pictures, by upload or URL.
I had fun playing around with it for a while, seeing how it would react to funny faces.

P.S. According to the developers, faces seen from the side don't work as well.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Michael on 14 November 2015, 13:10:06
This is what "they" say about my face from 60 years ago:
Quote
      Anger: 0.00003416,
      Contempt: 0.00907865,
      Disgust: 0.000142868885,
      Fear: 0.000026793321,
      Happiness: 0.5736135,
      Neutral: 0.4062687,
      Sadness: 0.0107938275,
      Surprise: 0.0000414537681
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: AvastMH on 14 November 2015, 13:47:56
Is this based on the thing we beta tested recently? I have so few photos of me where I'm visible that I didn't give it a go...saved breaking the program though  ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Helen J on 14 November 2015, 14:54:09
Is this based on the thing we beta tested recently? I have so few photos of me where I'm visible that I didn't give it a go...saved breaking the program though  ;D

I thought it sounded familiar - I've also decided not to test it to destruction ....  ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Hanibal94 on 14 November 2015, 15:19:57
I broke it twice - once when I uploaded a picture of a cat, just to see what would happen, and once when I did one of my dad - maybe his beard was too hard to process?
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: AvastMH on 14 November 2015, 15:28:16
 ;D ;D ;D  Imagine if the instructions insisted on all beards being shaved off first - eek!  :o
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 14 November 2015, 16:37:01
If anybody is interested in seeing some professional photos which were taken on my trip to The North West Passage, PM me and I will send the link to the photographers web site. (I am not allowed to put it here.)
Stuart.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: elizabeth on 15 November 2015, 06:55:11
oh I love photos. Why can you not post them here? Oh I forgot preview does not work  LIZ
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Randi on 15 November 2015, 07:00:20
Unfortunately the photos are for sale on the photographer's web site, so posting the link is against forum rules.
As Stuart has stated, he will be happy to PM you the link.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: elizabeth on 15 November 2015, 07:52:45
 :) ok that makes sense and yes I have sent a pm. Thanks Liz
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 15 November 2015, 20:25:05
This is the link to a few of MY pictures from my North West Passage trip.
Some I think were put up before, sorry for duplication.
https://photos.google.com/share/AF1QipMvHYq1sO9SVixEDmh8v6MTadxJ05miUseJwAnzQTC26Kf4QTPjARc4q0YM9yogAg/photo/AF1QipPdf6VkDKBrhrVCAreEDtXMQD6c0Kn8Ntk04LH2?key=Wm40dTRadklYVlJfbDJZR0tUUWxtM2x0UURZSXhn (https://photos.google.com/share/AF1QipMvHYq1sO9SVixEDmh8v6MTadxJ05miUseJwAnzQTC26Kf4QTPjARc4q0YM9yogAg/photo/AF1QipPdf6VkDKBrhrVCAreEDtXMQD6c0Kn8Ntk04LH2?key=Wm40dTRadklYVlJfbDJZR0tUUWxtM2x0UURZSXhn)

sorry for the long link it seems to work better than the shorter one. First video was uploaded to save bandwidth and is not good quality.
Click on the first picture to start bring up comments

I hope you enjoy them as much as I enjoyed the trip.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 15 November 2015, 21:02:32
What a fabulous journey - glad you shared it with us.  :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 15 November 2015, 23:18:11
Thanks Janet.
It's closer to you than me, give it a go.   ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 16 November 2015, 00:53:30
True - just 6,000 kilometers or so.   ::)  Canada is a very big country to cross.   :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 16 November 2015, 01:47:03
True - just 6,000 kilometers (Return)or so.   ::)  Canada is a very big country to cross.   :)

15000km ONE way for me.  :o
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Caro on 16 November 2015, 03:18:39
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/_KT0Rh7hqUaPlduGvlydwZ8eD0UHrUb3Fh207Gbfg-Zub6HyHVDqeEFvGZFA0bZrv1cGRI3tXkfmFDvnfon1i2BIluN4k8cd7rhB2H9ZEcBqE_7A9uxac1d_-gaHDv-xYmwLvbMWeTAD2NVa5LngSwwnWPlp2f5_yZFXFJYpQ0cKp6XVKCAooMUG5HEFdnUS7tc8YbcfrmaJ5TuEfW3PYs4j60hOhveBtEHykCKh7baTEiyoMspllF-RELbAvQCnfpIR1ebGHItF1J33FtGV4oypiWiISURrt8wUZ3dnKid9MiJQa2grIFM5kDCRjJtYyX_x0iCmC5wu_kNQFS2RAZVTN-g_3YMtpJM0EgNohx7LrcRBNKtrCOukU_7SeNd8GMQJucKXn3ihzD4XpaaLdh5DffAxLItUu8Fp1d1Ve_BUNPgTZE4xxnVFJ-UbbIl5Z540AM2cZbcZTtIc7e_DvEFeXSpZ0qImQQgOF6TGEMM02m4GJUfTKv7amNoCXA3AaPitWrY1WJuVt8kh6GoMCLjpeEbJZgYzD9dRaOHOhUM=w924-h767-no)

Thanks Stuart. This is my favourite. Fantastic.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: jil on 16 November 2015, 04:40:13
Excellent photos, Stuart, thanks. It looks a very tempting trip - apart from the polar plunge!
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 16 November 2015, 05:01:19
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/_KT0Rh7hqUaPlduGvlydwZ8eD0UHrUb3Fh207Gbfg-Zub6HyHVDqeEFvGZFA0bZrv1cGRI3tXkfmFDvnfon1i2BIluN4k8cd7rhB2H9ZEcBqE_7A9uxac1d_-gaHDv-xYmwLvbMWeTAD2NVa5LngSwwnWPlp2f5_yZFXFJYpQ0cKp6XVKCAooMUG5HEFdnUS7tc8YbcfrmaJ5TuEfW3PYs4j60hOhveBtEHykCKh7baTEiyoMspllF-RELbAvQCnfpIR1ebGHItF1J33FtGV4oypiWiISURrt8wUZ3dnKid9MiJQa2grIFM5kDCRjJtYyX_x0iCmC5wu_kNQFS2RAZVTN-g_3YMtpJM0EgNohx7LrcRBNKtrCOukU_7SeNd8GMQJucKXn3ihzD4XpaaLdh5DffAxLItUu8Fp1d1Ve_BUNPgTZE4xxnVFJ-UbbIl5Z540AM2cZbcZTtIc7e_DvEFeXSpZ0qImQQgOF6TGEMM02m4GJUfTKv7amNoCXA3AaPitWrY1WJuVt8kh6GoMCLjpeEbJZgYzD9dRaOHOhUM=w924-h767-no)

Thanks Stuart. This is my favourite. Fantastic.
Taken by a fellow traveller and noted as so.
It is also my favourite. (except all the ones I am in.)  ::)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: AvastMH on 16 November 2015, 15:25:55
gosh Stuart - what a trip! I loved the ice cave too, but I think this one just pips that in my book :)  And I was very impressed that you took a dip in those waters!

(http://i.imgur.com/aFjBJ13.png?1)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 16 November 2015, 17:57:21
Joan, it's just like bathing at Blackpool (but cleaner)    ;D
I think Antarctica felt warmer because I had to run in and out.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Dean on 16 November 2015, 19:43:55
Magnificent!!!!! ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Michael on 16 November 2015, 19:53:26
Joan, it's just like bathing at Blackpool (but cleaner)    ;D
I think Antarctica felt warmer because I had to run in and out.

That's nothing.  ::) It was -0.9C here this morning!!!  ;D

Our cat scratched at the door, which I opened. He stuck his nose outside, quickly backed up and retreated to his favourite spot and went back to sleep.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 16 November 2015, 20:45:48
Smart cat.  :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Hanibal94 on 17 November 2015, 01:51:25
Great pics, Stuart. I liked the ones of polar bears.

And nice job taking a dip in those waters - I'm not sure I would have been brave enough to do that!
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: AvastMH on 17 November 2015, 15:13:05
It took me  nearly two hours to get onto OW tonight. I don't know if it is perhaps the very windy weather taking out bits of ethernet techie stuff. But it was a horrible feeling...shivers....it's nice to be back in the fold. I feel a need to visit the OW addiction confessional ....  oh deary me - it was horrid...
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Thursday Next on 17 November 2015, 15:14:20
Joan, it's just like bathing at Blackpool (but cleaner)    ;D
I think Antarctica felt warmer because I had to run in and out.

That's nothing.  ::) It was -0.9C here this morning!!!  ;D

Our cat scratched at the door, which I opened. He stuck his nose outside, quickly backed up and retreated to his favourite spot and went back to sleep.
Smart cat.  :)

My door opens into an enclosed porch, but in the winter months my cat frequently goes out into the porch and does an immediate about turn back into the kitchen.  It has, however, taken her many years to twig that if she can hear rain on the porch roof that means it is raining outside the porch so no point in going any further.  She's finally grasped this, now I just need her to get to grips with if it was pouring with rain a minute ago, probably it is still pouring with rain now!  ::)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: AvastMH on 17 November 2015, 15:23:50
Stuart - I'm STILL impressed.  ;D
Thursday Next - your cat is clearly catching on  ;D When I had a cat he used to go out in everything except pouring rain, but he called the limit at the clear dry night we had in 1984 when it plunged to below -20C in Oxford.  8)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Caro on 17 November 2015, 15:32:23



<<< This cat has always believed that if it's raining at the front door, it's sure to be dry at the back door.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Michael on 17 November 2015, 15:33:32
It looks like they've fixed the autofill for the PM programs!!!  :) :) :) :) :)

Hooray!!!!

Also when you enter one name, a box for another pops up, as it used to!!!!    :) :) :) :) :)


Hooray again!!!!
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Helen J on 17 November 2015, 15:34:33



<<< This cat has always believed that if it's raining at the front door, it's sure to be dry at the back door.

Oh yes, we had one of those.  She believed the same about wind, snow and any other unacceptable weather.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Michael on 17 November 2015, 15:39:09



<<< This cat has always believed that if it's raining at the front door, it's sure to be dry at the back door.

Mine is no smarter. He will go out the cat door onto the "catio" (which consists of two towers with several stories and a bridge that runs there from a cat door in the basement window and both enclosed with chicken wire) get wet, come back inside and then try to go out the front door where it couldn't possibly be raining.

Like Joan's cat, mine drew the limit at -22C which, in the Yukon, occurred quite often. Now, living in Victoria, he draws the line at 5C!
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: AvastMH on 17 November 2015, 15:40:51
It looks like they've fixed the autofill for the PM programs!!!  :) :) :) :) :)

Hooray!!!!

Also when you enter one name, a box for another pops up, as it used to!!!!    :) :) :) :) :)

Hooray again!!!!

I'll second that!!   :D

(http://i.imgur.com/whrhfGq.png)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 17 November 2015, 15:42:53
I see it as the cats have full faith in their human's ability to produce acceptable weather, and therefore are convinced you did better at the front door, rectifying your failure at the back. ;D

So glad they devs got around to our forum!!!
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Caro on 17 November 2015, 15:59:08
Preview works too. Thank you, developers!
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 17 November 2015, 17:32:22
Preview works too. Thank you, developers!

So does the "insert quotes" links below the new message box for all previous posts - that's been broken too for a while.

A BIG fix!!  Thank you, developers!
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Randi on 17 November 2015, 17:38:03
Preview works too. Thank you, developers!

So does the "insert quotes" links below the new message box for all previous posts - that's been broken too for a while.

A BIG fix!!  Thank you, developers!


Wonderful !
Thank you, developers !


Please let us know who to thank!


Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: AvastMH on 17 November 2015, 18:44:17
(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_zN8g4K6kYbw/SStrvTUhThI/AAAAAAAAAR4/s8yLeXVNNC0/s1600/thumbs_up_smiley.gif)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Hanibal94 on 18 November 2015, 01:14:08
It is indeed fixed! A thousand thanks to the developers!
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Randi on 18 November 2015, 06:44:04
astopy - Adam McMaster
has fixed a number of our problems, but he is still working on the email notifications.
He may need someone to send him a PM to test his fix. The mods will take care of that if we are available, but I told him to ask anyone who was on line for help if we weren't available. So if you see a post from him or get a PM, please help ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: elizabeth on 18 November 2015, 07:41:54
 :) oh just got to try this out preview fixed? Test one. Oh my yes it works how wonderful.  :) :) This awesome news............give this person a  raise . Thanks  :-* :-* :-*
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 19 November 2015, 15:22:03
Hi all.
35c yesterday, very high fire danger.
37c today, severe fire danger, total fire ban. The local Bong Bong Picnic Race Day is on today and they are saying it maybe to hot for the horses to run. This years theme 'Horses in War'

Tomorrow (which is my gliding day) is expected to be 18c with drizzle.  :'(
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: AvastMH on 19 November 2015, 17:51:09
Sorry to hear that your gliding will be in dull weather -but I guess the wildlife will be grateful for a break from the intense heat  :-\
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 19 November 2015, 19:15:43
:) oh just got to try this out preview fixed? Test one. Oh my yes it works how wonderful.  :) :) This awesome news............give this person a  raise . Thanks  :-* :-* :-*

Is there still a problem with attachments or is that just me that's the problem?
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Michael on 19 November 2015, 19:39:09
I tried. I failed.

Cannot access attachments upload path!
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 19 November 2015, 20:15:01
I tried. I failed.

Cannot access attachments upload path!

Nope, we lost that some of months ago.  We nagged successfully to get some of the other losses (like previews and PM addresses) fixed, but attachments are still lost.

They never existed in Talk, and I suspect from things Arfon said a long time ago that the major problem with them was the storage space they use up on Zooniverse computers.  Linked images use no extra storage whatsoever.

The PTB recommended image storage to use to make your private images online is Imgur.  I love it for casual images, and the organization of their storage is superior if you are willing to put in more effort.  http://imgur.com/

Another easy one for once-only images (storage organization is sloppy) is postimage.org  http://postimg.org/
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 19 November 2015, 20:56:32
Thanks Janet.
I will note those two.

Lets see if this works.
 Bong Bong Picnic Races.  (http://imgur.com/y2SX6Qr)

A lot of fluids will be drunk there today. (Purely to counter the heat, honest)   8)

Will have to work on better sizing but it works.   :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 19 November 2015, 21:22:34
That works. 

Now on your Imgur image page, right click the image and choose "Copy image url" in the drop down. 
Paste here into your message box on its own line:

http://i.imgur.com/y2SX6Qr.jpg?1

Now, select that image url and then click the little icon above your open posting box that looks like a miniature Mona Lisa, so that it is inside bracket image codes. 

You will get this:

(http://i.imgur.com/y2SX6Qr.jpg?1)

I'm sure the heat will justify very much excessive drinking.   ::)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 19 November 2015, 23:09:04
Why, I, thank you mam.   ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Caro on 20 November 2015, 03:54:24
We have history.  :)

Stark images of Shackleton's struggle (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-34856379)

Logs of HMS Avoca (http://www.naval-history.net/OWShips-WW1-08-HMS_Avoca.htm): See 1 June 1916.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Randi on 20 November 2015, 06:02:54
I remember that page ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 26 November 2015, 08:37:35
For those in the US

(http://i.imgur.com/8rmPrCt.png)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 26 November 2015, 14:07:13
And then there is this one, from Amish country in Pennsylvania...

https://www.facebook.com/joel.appleman/videos/559735683762/
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: AvastMH on 26 November 2015, 17:15:37
And then there is this one, from Amish country in Pennsylvania...

https://www.facebook.com/joel.appleman/videos/559735683762/

That's a cracker - go dobbins go! That really is horsepower  ;D

HAPPY THANKSGIVING TO YOU IN THE US!  :D

(http://i.imgur.com/Sk0dNGK.png)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: elizabeth on 27 November 2015, 06:37:45
And then there is this one, from Amish country in Pennsylvania...

https://www.facebook.com/joel.appleman/videos/559735683762/
:) Awesome made my day.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Randi on 30 November 2015, 07:00:45
Anyone running Windows Vista that could test something?
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 01 December 2015, 01:56:59
Don't the TV news shows just love bold statements.
"This summer will have a Godzilla El Nino" (something close to that wording)
http://www.newschannel10.com/story/29846854/godzilla-el-nio-could-mean-strong-winter (http://www.newschannel10.com/story/29846854/godzilla-el-nio-could-mean-strong-winter)

Well it was 33c today at my place, with Hail 3 hrs drive north.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 02 December 2015, 02:19:21
Snow at Thredbo today, and this is summer?
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Caro on 02 December 2015, 03:10:59
That's odd.
Positively balmy 12C here in early December.  :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Helen J on 02 December 2015, 07:16:38
Yes, very odd weather - but it did mean I could hang my washing out this morning!
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Hanibal94 on 02 December 2015, 12:55:35
Stormtroopers assemble Christmas Tree (http://imgur.com/a/rDiQY)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: jil on 02 December 2015, 13:05:32
 ;D 8)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: AvastMH on 02 December 2015, 13:55:56
Stormtroopers assemble Christmas Tree (http://imgur.com/a/rDiQY)
absolutely superb....excellent -loved the little side amusements - what not to do with your fork and electric socket ;D
Cracker  ;D 8) ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 02 December 2015, 21:45:06
A certain games console ver 1 was released today (3 Dec 1994) does not seem that long ago.
Do you remember that one Hanibal?

(I have just reached 84210 Concord WRs on the OW console.)  ::)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 03 December 2015, 16:49:43
Just to add some beauty to our lives.
https://www.facebook.com/131376260352637/photos/a.151275548362708.34013.131376260352637/553184738171785/?type=3

(https://scontent.ford1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfl1/v/t1.0-9/s720x720/12342460_553184738171785_461520970602504332_n.jpg?oh=0e8b68a02eec7d87b3650d52c13e55da&oe=56F68BE4)

Quote
NASA Astronaut Scott Kelly
Day 249. Portugal and Spain all aglow after dark. Good night from the International Space Station! #YearInSpace
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Hanibal94 on 03 December 2015, 17:07:39
A certain games console ver 1 was released today (3 Dec 1994) does not seem that long ago.
Do you remember that one Hanibal?

No, I had to look it up. I don't do console games - only PC ones.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 03 December 2015, 17:28:02
A certain games console ver 1 was released today (3 Dec 1994) does not seem that long ago.
Do you remember that one Hanibal?

No, I had to look it up. I don't do console games - only PC ones.

Enjoy being young, Hanibal - all of us can tell you it should be enjoyed because it doesn't last, at least in terms of relatively short memories and knees and backs that agree we are young.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Randi on 03 December 2015, 17:29:15
necks & shoulders :'(
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Michael on 03 December 2015, 17:53:10
Eyes.  :'(
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 03 December 2015, 20:24:49
Memory, or did I already say that?
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 03 December 2015, 20:33:32
All of the above?  Hopefully our spirits remain youthful and cherish joy all life long.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Tegwen on 04 December 2015, 11:47:19
Hips!!
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Tegwen on 04 December 2015, 12:08:09
I have had something nice happen over this week.

I have discovered that I have a WW1 naval history author only 300 yards away in my village. Last weekend we had a craft fair at the village hall and she was there selling copies of her recently released book. I bought a copy and it is lovely. It is a biography of her Grandfather, who was aboard HMS Warrior, when she sank just after Jutland, and he was one of the survivors. He then served on several ships up to the Second World war.

The book comes from among other things his diaries, which are wonderful to see, but also from the logs of HMS Warrior and HMS Dauntless, on the Naval History site. When she wrote the book these logs were up but they were not in edited form and had no JPs.

We spent several hours this morning discussing our interests and experiences and she was most excited to see the edited logs as she hadnt seen them before. She was particularly impressed with the JPs, so congratulations to the editors Jeff & Janet and to Maikel.

I can recommend it if anyone is looking for a nice Christmas present. The book is "A Shy and Simple Warrior" by Rosie (R. H.) Parr. You can order a copy from the publisher, SilverWood Books or from other online book sellers. Let me know if you want a link and I can pm you.

Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: AvastMH on 04 December 2015, 14:17:52
What an amazing find! happy day!  :D
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Hanibal94 on 04 December 2015, 14:20:47
Amazing indeed! Nice to hear she enjoyed the edited logs.  8)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 04 December 2015, 14:55:33
Now that is a special Christmas gift to all of us.  Lovely.  :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: jil on 04 December 2015, 15:38:39
That's gone on my Christmas list, especially with the link to HMS Dauntless!
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Helen J on 05 December 2015, 16:04:49
For anyone with access to Channel 4, I've just watched an interesting programme about Arctic polar bears, The Great Polar Bear Feast, which included some USGS scientists and their research into the effects of shrinking ice on polar bear behaviour.  I realised that I now have quite a proprietorial interest in the USGS - another small side effect of this project.

http://www.channel4.com/programmes/the-great-polar-bear-feast
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: AvastMH on 05 December 2015, 17:12:57
Thanks Helen! I missed it due to a phone call - must catch up with it - saw the runner for it and it looked great :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Caro on 06 December 2015, 04:30:32
I hope Sinterklaas wasn't blown off course in last night's storm and managed to reach our Dutch and Belgian friends.  ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 06 December 2015, 15:36:54
I love today's Advent Calendar #6 - especially since our mod AvastMH is also Penguins' mod.  :)

http://advent.zooniverse.org/
http://daily.zooniverse.org/2015/12/06/zooniverse-advent-day-6-whats-in-a-name/
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 06 December 2015, 16:34:19
Jil.
Good job you have the umbrella handy.
Your weather made the Australian news.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Hanibal94 on 06 December 2015, 16:40:22
I love today's Advent Calendar #6 - especially since our mod AvastMH is also Penguins' mod.  :)

http://advent.zooniverse.org/
http://daily.zooniverse.org/2015/12/06/zooniverse-advent-day-6-whats-in-a-name/

I like that one too - I wish they really had chosen Apes on Tape instead of Chimp and See! The former sounds better to my ears.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: AvastMH on 07 December 2015, 15:17:16
I love today's Advent Calendar #6 - especially since our mod AvastMH is also Penguins' mod.  :)

http://advent.zooniverse.org/
http://daily.zooniverse.org/2015/12/06/zooniverse-advent-day-6-whats-in-a-name/

****blushes****
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: jil on 07 December 2015, 18:25:56
Jil.
Good job you have the umbrella handy.
Your weather made the Australian news.
Definitely needed it over the weekend, even though several miles south of the worst of it.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 08 December 2015, 00:26:16
a little sunshine for you Jil
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: JamesAPrattIII on 08 December 2015, 12:09:37
on youtube: French Frigate Latouche-Treville Vs Hugh Storm
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: jil on 08 December 2015, 12:39:46
a little sunshine for you Jil
Thanks!
Actually we had some yesterday (and warm too, 15.5C) but back to the rain today  :'(
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Hanibal94 on 09 December 2015, 07:51:47
Here's an inspiring story for those of you who have had hip replacements (or other old age-related surgery):
http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2015/oct/16/uks-oldest-person-breaks-hip-replacement-record-at-112
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 09 December 2015, 09:16:54
Thank you, Hanibal - we are never too old to reach for a good quality of life.  :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: studentforever on 09 December 2015, 11:54:10
There's hope for me yet!!  :) :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: elizabeth on 10 December 2015, 06:51:10
 :o oh and me also!
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Tegwen on 10 December 2015, 09:56:30
Thanks for posting that Hannibal, very uplifting. I like the surgeons comment about cementing the prosthetic in place, but not  pressurising it too much.

I remember vaugley waking up during my first op with a very metallic hammering sound, presumably the sound of my surgeon "pressurising" mine!!
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: studentforever on 10 December 2015, 10:45:11
Probably not, we used to pressurise the cement with a slow, steady, sustained pressure applied by the surgeon & assistant, hammering could produce rebound, and hence cavitation and voids, to be avoided because of weakening the material. I suspect that the hammering was rasping out the bone bed which would accept the cement & prosthesis. Some of the cementless ones might be hammered in though.

Now you understand why I told my surgeon that I wanted to know nothing or watch. The thought of lying there and trying to work out where they had got to was not an appealing prospect. He hastily agreed to sedation with the spinal!!
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Michael on 10 December 2015, 13:22:26
Being the season that it is, and being that some of you may be listening to, or singing, or playing in, Handel's Messiah in the next two weeks, I highly recommend this 54 minute discussion on the Messiah: Messiah Revealed (http://www.cbc.ca/radio/ideas/messiah-revealed-1.3354491). I'm happily listening and transcribing at the same time.  :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 10 December 2015, 15:07:08
 :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: AvastMH on 10 December 2015, 15:48:30
I wonder if we have enough replaced parts for a bionic transcriber? What do you all reckon?  ;) ;D


Years ago (late 70s) when I worked in an x-ray department we had a lovely patient who had a second hip done at 86 which seemed amazing at the time!

And if it were me having some major hip surgery done I'd want to be off with the fairies  :o  :D  You are all very brave  :-*
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: studentforever on 11 December 2015, 04:44:34
Well, we have enough major lower limb joints between us but no-one has come up with shoulders and elbows and we need some heart valves as a minimum.  Then, to be really bionic, we need cochlear implants (we've got cataract replacements) and we could have transplants or dialysis for the organs. The thing we don't need (yet) is a brain transplant and let's hope that none of us needs one in the future!!
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 11 December 2015, 06:39:52
I would be happy with one. This one is getting just a a bit old.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Tegwen on 11 December 2015, 06:41:32
Probably not, we used to pressurise the cement with a slow, steady, sustained pressure applied by the surgeon & assistant, hammering could produce rebound, and hence cavitation and voids, to be avoided because of weakening the material. I suspect that the hammering was rasping out the bone bed which would accept the cement & prosthesis. Some of the cementless ones might be hammered in though.

Now you understand why I told my surgeon that I wanted to know nothing or watch. The thought of lying there and trying to work out where they had got to was not an appealing prospect. He hastily agreed to sedation with the spinal!!

I am sure you are right. The thought that they were using a chisel down my bone marrow does not make it any better!!!
I did have sedation and it worked very well for most of both of the ops, just the hammering and the faint smell of burning that woke me up!!
My dad had some replacement heart valves, they kept him going for 15 years.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: studentforever on 11 December 2015, 08:36:58
Most orthopaedics is not a delicate art. This was the excuse for not appointing women!! Strangely though, female orthopaedic surgeons were the majority behind the iron curtain - possibly because surgery was less prestigious than medicine and orthopaedic surgery was near the bottom of the surgical pile.  There was some excuse for the misogyny before muscle relaxants and power tools but these days things are slowly changing. I got used to being the only woman at orthopaedic meetings but it did have problems negotiating strange theatre changing rooms as all the nurses were already preparing the patient or operating theatre and of course my colleagues were using the male changing suites.

Glad the heart valves worked so well - I did a bit of work on some of them as well for a year or so.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: AvastMH on 11 December 2015, 16:38:27
Well, we have enough major lower limb joints between us but no-one has come up with shoulders and elbows and we need some heart valves as a minimum.  Then, to be really bionic, we need cochlear implants (we've got cataract replacements) and we could have transplants or dialysis for the organs. The thing we don't need (yet) is a brain transplant and let's hope that none of us needs one in the future!!

 ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Hanibal94 on 12 December 2015, 07:53:22
Good afternoon all.
Since the new Star Wars will be coming out soon, I have a very important message for those of us who will be seeing it at once:

(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-VTuEney-wWc/UPlTr7XQqjI/AAAAAAAAAQ8/BrN2O8jeZLg/s320/no+spoiling.jpg)

Thank you for your interest in not being a jerk.  ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Bob on 12 December 2015, 09:37:04
I was wandering around in Google, and found this interesting item:

The Log of Logs Volumes 1, 2 & 3
Nicholson ,Ian

A list of ships traveling into Australian and New Zealand waters between 1788 and 1990. Contain metadata about log book sources and places each ship visited.


https://zenodo.org/record/6901/files/#.VmwvEcqGj4K

All three volumes are there for download (PDF). They include numerous photos and drawings, brief descriptions of the items cataloged, and some interesting background on log keeping in the front matter.

"The study of old logs is not always easy due to the poor quality of ink and paper, particularly considering the effect of salt water and damp over the years. Dates and names are often difficult to decypher. Some are full of interest - others are decidedly dull."
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: AvastMH on 12 December 2015, 11:30:21
Good afternoon all.
Since the new Star Wars will be coming out soon, I have a very important message for those of us who will be seeing it at once
etc.
Thank you for your interest in not being a jerk.  ;)

It took me 25 years to see the first lot..could someone remind me to catch up with these in 2040? Cheers (just teasing) ;) ;D
If you see it and HAVE to tell someone the plot you can pm me - I always start a book by reading the end and am spoiler proof  :o :D
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: AvastMH on 12 December 2015, 11:33:32
I was wandering around in Google, and found this interesting item:

The Log of Logs Volumes 1, 2 & 3
Nicholson ,Ian

A list of ships traveling into Australian and New Zealand waters between 1788 and 1990. Contain metadata about log book sources and places each ship visited.


https://zenodo.org/record/6901/files/#.VmwvEcqGj4K

All three volumes are there for download (PDF). They include numerous photos and drawings, brief descriptions of the items cataloged, and some interesting background on log keeping in the front matter.

"The study of old logs is not always easy due to the poor quality of ink and paper, particularly considering the effect of salt water and damp over the years. Dates and names are often difficult to decypher. Some are full of interest - others are decidedly dull."

Thanks bob. Someone on Penguin Watch might be interested in those - I'll pass the message along :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Craig on 12 December 2015, 15:52:48
Good afternoon all.
Since the new Star Wars will be coming out soon, I have a very important message for those of us who will be seeing it at once
etc.
Thank you for your interest in not being a jerk.  ;)

The good guys win!   (Just kidding, I haven't seen it and probably won't unless it comes out in a book).  ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 12 December 2015, 17:32:04
sorry Hanibal I am going to spoil it.

It was the butler
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: AvastMH on 13 December 2015, 06:51:09
the droid butler, or the butler butler? Forget it - I can never tell them apart anyway! (oh no - now I'VE spoilt it too  ::))
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Hanibal94 on 13 December 2015, 07:32:23
Oh no! Not R2!

(http://netdna.walyou.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads//2012/01/r2-d2-3d-model-3.jpg)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: AvastMH on 13 December 2015, 13:16:41
ohhh - I couldn't say!  ;) ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Craig on 13 December 2015, 18:00:46
They look like a group of espresso machines to me. I wouldn't like to be attacked by a gang of expresso machines. Perhaps drip filter thugs wouldn't be so bad as long as you had the right blend.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Randi on 14 December 2015, 10:49:40
FYI - my true love is in the shop. I hope to have it back Wed. afternoon. I will check the forum from time to time from Dad's computer (as I am doing now).
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Helen J on 14 December 2015, 12:01:54
I hope all goes well and that you're reunited soon!
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: AvastMH on 14 December 2015, 12:39:07
we'll miss you - lots  :'(  Hope your beloved computer is well and running soon :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 14 December 2015, 13:01:56
This is hard - let chocolate comfort you while you wait. 

(http://s3.favim.com/orig/38/candy-canes-chocolate-christmas-cupcakes-cute-Favim.com-314279.jpg)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Randi on 14 December 2015, 16:44:23
Thank you all for your kind thoughts!
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Kathy on 15 December 2015, 09:42:11
For the penguin in all of us.... ;D

http://www.gizmodo.com.au/2015/12/the-social-dynamics-of-penguin-huddles-are-more-complex-than-we-thought/
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: JamesAPrattIII on 15 December 2015, 10:37:21
In away we just started doing whalers logs when the movie "Heart of the sea' has just come out about some not so lucky whalers

Meanwhile I am back to slogging away on the USS Jamestown 1844

In 1950 the Idaho Fish and game dept decided to repopulate beavers in remote parts of that state. They did so by parachuting the animals in. See "Fur for the future on youtube
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 15 December 2015, 10:46:36
Good for them!!  :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Bob on 15 December 2015, 11:03:49
Welcome back!  ;)

Meanwhile I am back to slogging away on the USS Jamestown 1844
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: jil on 15 December 2015, 11:53:40
For the penguin in all of us.... ;D
http://www.gizmodo.com.au/2015/12/the-social-dynamics-of-penguin-huddles-are-more-complex-than-we-thought/
8)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: AvastMH on 15 December 2015, 14:33:38
so exciting we are watching the opening of the hatch between the Soyuz space craft and the ISS live on BBC TV :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 15 December 2015, 14:47:04
 :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: AvastMH on 15 December 2015, 14:51:29
For the penguin in all of us.... ;D

http://www.gizmodo.com.au/2015/12/the-social-dynamics-of-penguin-huddles-are-more-complex-than-we-thought/

Thanks so much Kathy - I am becoming increasingly penguin in my non-OW life as many will know. We don't cover Emperors in PenguinWatch, just their cousins the King Penguins. This is a fascinating article and I've posted it on the PW chat board along with this picture of an imminent penguin traffic crisis:

(http://i.imgur.com/x3JsQR3.png)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: AvastMH on 15 December 2015, 15:11:07
In away we just started doing whalers logs when the movie "Heart of the sea' has just come out about some not so lucky whalers

Meanwhile I am back to slogging away on the USS Jamestown 1844

In 1950 the Idaho Fish and game dept decided to repopulate beavers in remote parts of that state. They did so by parachuting the animals in. See "Fur for the future on youtube

I had promised myself a trip to see that, but it may be finished by the time I get back from Christmas - I so look forward to seeing it. Clewi told me about it first :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 16 December 2015, 00:06:24
Not usual weather for Sydney.
F2 tornado (not big in the US but big and uncommon for AU) hit Kurnell (just south of Sydney airport) this afternoon, gusts up to 213kmph.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: elizabeth on 16 December 2015, 06:47:19
Not usual weather for Sydney.
F2 tornado (not big in the US but big and uncommon for AU) hit Kurnell (just south of Sydney airport) this afternoon, gusts up to 213kmph.
Oh dear! That is a bit gusty  is everyone ok?
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Tegwen on 16 December 2015, 07:00:14
Thought you might like to see this. A set of over 120 pictures of HMS Caroline before/during her refit.

https://www.facebook.com/BiggerPic/photos/a.894034497359149.1073741835.501818946580708/894034540692478/?type=3&theater
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Randi on 16 December 2015, 10:55:23
My true love has returned to me - with a new hard disk drive.

I'll be back after dinner!
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 16 December 2015, 11:24:46
Hurrah!!  Welcome home, True Love.   8)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: AvastMH on 16 December 2015, 13:55:18
Thought you might like to see this. A set of over 120 pictures of HMS Caroline before/during her refit.

https://www.facebook.com/BiggerPic/photos/a.894034497359149.1073741835.501818946580708/894034540692478/?type=3&theater

There's a lot of paint and brass polish needed on her - bless. What a project though  :D
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: AvastMH on 16 December 2015, 13:56:22
My true love has returned to me - with a new hard disk drive.


Yeh! Happy days!  :D :D :D
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Dean on 16 December 2015, 19:30:25
My true love has returned to me - with a new hard disk drive.

I'll be back after dinner!


 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Michael on 16 December 2015, 21:58:39
My true love has returned to me - with a new hard disk drive.

I'll be back after dinner!


 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

It's been lonely out here in the trenches without you...  :'( But Happy Days are back again!  :) :) :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Hanibal94 on 17 December 2015, 02:16:55
Looks like the Classic interface broke again - there's just a blank white page when I try to access it!  :(
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Caro on 17 December 2015, 02:53:34
Thanks Hanibal. Janet reported it.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 17 December 2015, 04:38:07
Whilst waiting for the site to come up again I am watching BBC Knowledge, Operation Cloud Lab.
Airship journey across the US, this episode (2) is about atmospheric changes in altitude.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: lollia paolina on 17 December 2015, 04:55:41
It seems OW classic is back :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 17 December 2015, 04:58:56
To bad, Video is still on.   :P
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Hanibal94 on 17 December 2015, 05:42:10
Looks like it is back - I can access and log in. Yay!
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Maikel on 19 December 2015, 03:46:20
Hooray, I'm receiving forum notifications again. :D
Thanks for the repair.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Caro on 19 December 2015, 04:01:54
Yes indeed. Adam fixed the notifications yesterday.
Many thanks, Adam.  :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 20 December 2015, 01:36:37
102f (39c) on my veranda at 17:30 today.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Caro on 20 December 2015, 04:55:39
Phew!  :o 
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Craig on 20 December 2015, 06:02:05
They're forecasting a green Christmas for us with +11C on the 24th. I've never seen this since I moved here almost 50 years ago. We had a dusting of snow yesterday but the rain will wash it away this week.

Normals for December 20
Max:    -5?C Min:    -13?C
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 20 December 2015, 08:41:56
Same in Chicago, altho green Christmas is more likely than not - forecasting a high in the 40sF  (about +8C)
Our average for Christmas is about -3 C

Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Caro on 20 December 2015, 09:13:40
Stormy 12C here today. Similar predicted for Christmas day.  ???
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Dean on 20 December 2015, 10:11:31
They're forecasting a green Christmas for us with +11C on the 24th. I've never seen this since I moved here almost 50 years ago. We had a dusting of snow yesterday but the rain will wash it away this week.

Normals for December 20
Max:    -5?C Min:    -13?C

About the same average numbers here in western New York State.  We are forecast for 15?C for Friday/Saturday!
 The local Natl Weather Service station FINALLY received 0.1" snow yesterday to end the record for the 'Latest Measurable Snow' from 3 December 1899.   
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Helen J on 20 December 2015, 10:42:52
This morning we had sun!  I'd almost forgotten what it looks like, we've had so many grey damp days.  However I suspect this isn't going to last.  Still mild though - no chance at all of a white Christmas (which as I need to get to various churches over the feast, I'm quite happy about).
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Thursday Next on 20 December 2015, 15:39:07
I had the exact same thought when the sun came out here this morning, too!  I don't want to seem ungrateful for the "winter heatwave" we've been having, because I know I'm saving lots of money on my heating bills, but I am a little fed up with living in perpetual twilight!
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Helen J on 20 December 2015, 16:05:34
Absolutely!  There's so little proper light at this time of the year anyway, and then to have what there is shrouded in cloud most of the time - very bad for the spirits.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Michael on 20 December 2015, 18:03:29
The Christmas Day forecast for us is for 7.4mm rain with a max of 7C, and a min of 2C. The normal Max/Mins are 8 and 3. Pretty unremarkable, but that's just fine with me.  :)

48o26N 123o21W   Elevation 76m.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 20 December 2015, 18:19:33
The joys of island living - very modified winters, even a bit north.  :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Michael on 20 December 2015, 18:29:52
The joys of island living - very modified winters, even a bit north.  :)

Exactly. A giant ocean to the west with the prevailing winds from Hawaii!  ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 20 December 2015, 18:33:27
The joys of island living - very modified winters, even a bit north.  :)

Exactly. A giant ocean to the west with the prevailing winds from Hawaii!  ;)

Beats southern Chicago hands down.  :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Michael on 20 December 2015, 19:29:22
The joys of island living - very modified winters, even a bit north.  :)

Exactly. A giant ocean to the west with the prevailing winds from Hawaii!  ;)

Beats southern Chicago hands down.  :)

You can move here anytime. We have a spare room where you can bunk until you find a place to live.  ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 20 December 2015, 19:50:38
102f (39c) on my veranda at 17:30 today.

20c (68f) and raining this morning.  ???
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 22 December 2015, 01:24:09
This is definitely off subject, but funny in a cute kind of way.

https://www.youtube.com/embed/fq22bVmxfuk
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Caro on 22 December 2015, 02:50:15
Very educational.  :)

Happy solstice everyone!
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 22 December 2015, 03:10:20
This is definitely off subject, but funny in a cute kind of way.

https://www.youtube.com/embed/fq22bVmxfuk

 ::)

I don't remember it being explained like that in geology lessons I took at school.
(Then I don't remember much of them anyway)   :o
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Dean on 22 December 2015, 08:04:46
This is definitely off subject, but funny in a cute kind of way.

https://www.youtube.com/embed/fq22bVmxfuk

My sixth grade Science students would have loved this!!  Great explanation.  The Music teacher probably would have helped them sing it!   ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: elizabeth on 22 December 2015, 08:17:57
This is definitely off subject, but funny in a cute kind of way.

https://www.youtube.com/embed/fq22bVmxfuk

My sixth grade Science students would have loved this!!  Great explanation.  The Music teacher probably would have helped them sing it!   ;)
just drop in and saw this post.  Awesome IMHO :) thanks for posting!
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 22 December 2015, 08:23:51
Happy Solstice, to all of us!!

(http://eoimages.gsfc.nasa.gov/images/imagerecords/52000/52248/seasons_msg_20101221_lrg.jpg)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Randi on 22 December 2015, 09:21:07
Belated
Happy Birthday
to
AvastMH
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: jil on 22 December 2015, 12:47:15
Happy Birthday!  :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Michael on 22 December 2015, 13:10:39
And Happy Birthday from me, too!
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Hanibal94 on 22 December 2015, 13:52:37
Happy Birthday Joan!
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: AvastMH on 22 December 2015, 13:58:44
AWwwwwe, thanks everyone! :D
I have been given a modern mobile phone so I can keep in touch with you good folks when I'm away....fabulous :D I feel very lucky. :D
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Helen J on 22 December 2015, 14:07:58
Excellent - is that another entry for the OW Addiction thread - that a modern mobile phone is immediately seen as a way of keeping in touch with OW?   :D
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Thursday Next on 22 December 2015, 15:15:07
Happy Birthday, Joan - and Happy Solstice Day to us all!
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 22 December 2015, 17:29:31
Happy Birthday Joan from Down under.

In case I forget later (busy couple of days coming up) I believe there is another celebration coming in a few days time. (2 days on my time frame)
Happy Celebration to all.
May Santa Claus, Saint Nicholas, Kris Kringle or Pelznickel or Dad bring you what you desire, or at least some presents.

Stuart.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Craig on 23 December 2015, 08:33:06
Happy Birthday, Joan!
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: propriome on 23 December 2015, 10:04:53
Happy Birthday Joan!!
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Dean on 23 December 2015, 15:48:06
Joan:

   Happy Birthday to you,
   Happy Birthday to you,
   Happy Birthday dear Joooooooooooooooooooaaaaaannnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn,
   Happy Birthday to you!

Hope it's a happy one and that you get lots of neat presents!
Hope also you get to share with family!


(I've been trying for two days to add a picture but the Server won't allow it. I'll keep trying but Happy Birthday anyway!!!!)

Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Hanibal94 on 24 December 2015, 13:06:02
Here's a challenge for all of you: Spot the hidden panda!

(https://scontent-arn2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xaf1/v/t1.0-0/p526x296/947083_718818741553374_3000781901216554446_n.png?oh=94179802ff8a8dd713a4f9c1ec0f25a9&oe=572250F9)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Helen J on 24 December 2015, 13:35:30
Got it!
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Thursday Next on 24 December 2015, 14:30:39
Surprisingly hard to spot - then once you've seen it, it stands out a mile!  ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 24 December 2015, 15:29:01
Well, down under it's 'That Day'.
Seasons Greetings to all.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: HatterJack on 25 December 2015, 01:06:54
Some of you may have noticed (or maybe not, I dunno) that I've been silent for the last few weeks. I have once again found myself in the unfortunate position of having cast off, only to find that my home port has been closed. Personal life always takes a front seat to research, as we all know. While I still haven't managed to find a new safe harbor, I have square away enough emotional cargo to be able to settle in and focus on the project again. It's good to be back aboard the good ship OW, I've missed you all terribly.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: lollia paolina on 25 December 2015, 02:16:49
Buon Natale, Old Weather!
Merry Christmas!



:)

(http://www.buon-natale.net/immagini/gif-buon-natale/buon-natale-16.gif)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Caro on 25 December 2015, 02:57:59
Good to see you back, HatterJack.
Season's greetings to you all.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Maikel on 25 December 2015, 03:30:24
Merry Christmas and best wishes for 2016.

For your viewing pleasure ::) I've created a (silly) animated Christmas card again.
It can be viewed at https://youtu.be/OYm3zRROFd4 (https://youtu.be/OYm3zRROFd4).
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: jil on 25 December 2015, 03:53:35
Happy Christmas to one and all!
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: jil on 25 December 2015, 03:58:14
Merry Christmas and best wishes for 2016.

For your viewing pleasure ::) I've created a (silly) animated Christmas card again.
It can be viewed at https://youtu.be/OYm3zRROFd4 (https://youtu.be/OYm3zRROFd4).
;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Randi on 25 December 2015, 04:23:07
Welcome back to your OW family, HatterJack.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: studentforever on 25 December 2015, 05:48:23
Christmas is a good time to renew old friendships!

Happy Christmas one & all.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Dean on 25 December 2015, 07:35:43
Welcome back to your OW family, HatterJack.

Christmas is a good time to renew old friendships!

Happy Christmas one & all.

Merry Christmas to all!!!

Maikel: Thanks for the card!!!!!
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Craig on 25 December 2015, 07:57:33
Merry Christmas to you all!
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 25 December 2015, 08:33:33
Glad to have you back, HatterJack - and you were definitely missed.  This port will stay open for you.

For everyone, ...

(http://www.picpicx.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/12/34d4618668918c333944dc8920deff8f1.gif?63bea7)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: AvastMH on 25 December 2015, 09:05:13
A bit limited on computer power. But a huge and heartfelt MERRY CHRISTMAS TO EVERYONE ON OW. IHOPE that you are all having a peaceful and joyful day. :D :D :D

I have a new mobile phone so this is an android message...his modern am I?!?  ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Michael on 25 December 2015, 11:14:44
Merry Christmas to one and all from the West Coast. (We're among the last to make it to Christmas Day, so it's always a worry that Santa will run out of steam or presents before he makes it this far west.)   ;D

And, yes, HatterJack, I was worried about you dropping out of sight, so I am counting your return as a gift from Santa to all of us.  ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: AvastMH on 25 December 2015, 11:35:03
Yes, welcome back hatterjack!!  :D
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Thursday Next on 25 December 2015, 14:53:08
Wishing everyone a Cool Yule!
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: elizabeth on 26 December 2015, 01:11:37
Merry Christmas and best wishes for 2016.

For your viewing pleasure ::) I've created a (silly) animated Christmas card again.
It can be viewed at https://youtu.be/OYm3zRROFd4 (https://youtu.be/OYm3zRROFd4).
:) :) Thank you and have a safe NEW YEAR!
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: elizabeth on 26 December 2015, 01:28:00
 ;D Happy Days everyone. Hope all are well. Must say best Christmas in 2 years for me .... nothing happened. :)  Oh well that is to say my Son and I did go and see the new STARS WARS movie.  Must say here worth the price of the ticket. What total fun it was!  Oh and yes I totally liked it. ;) and so did my son :o
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 26 December 2015, 04:48:29
I'm going to see it next week.  Glad your day was good, Liz.  :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: AvastMH on 28 December 2015, 08:55:32
Merry Christmas and best wishes for 2016.

For your viewing pleasure ::) I've created a (silly) animated Christmas card again.
It can be viewed at https://youtu.be/OYm3zRROFd4 (https://youtu.be/OYm3zRROFd4).
:) :) Thank you and have a safe NEW YEAR!

Just enjoyed this - wonderful - thanks Maikel  :D :D :D
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: jil on 31 December 2015, 11:40:26
Jil.
Good job you have the umbrella handy.
Your weather made the Australian news.
Definitely needed it over the weekend, even though several miles south of the worst of it.
Possibly spoke too soon. Was right in the middle of the worst of it on Dec 26th and ended up with 2 - 3" water in my ground floor flat. Drying out now and had got most of my stuff off floor level.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 31 December 2015, 11:43:38
Not a good week for you, wishing you well in getting that all cleaned up, Janet.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Helen J on 31 December 2015, 11:54:21
I hope you don't get any more flooding, Janet, and can get dried out and back to normal before too long.  Not a good way to start a new year .... :(
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Randi on 31 December 2015, 12:35:44
Horrible!
I hope there won't be any serious problems!
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Craig on 31 December 2015, 12:38:13
Sorry to hear about the flooding, Janet.
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Dean on 31 December 2015, 12:45:23
Sorry about the flooding. Wish I was closer to help!!!!

Be safe!!
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Michael on 31 December 2015, 13:10:13
The flood sounds bad, I hope you're coping with the cleanup, Jil. Sorry I'm too far away to help, too.

Here is a weird weather note I got this from a friend who works for NOAA...

Quote
One of the great things about weather is sometimes amazing things happen:

There are two separate buoys at 87.4N, 154.4E, so about 150 NM from the North Pole. One of the platforms is reporting hourly, and this morning had three hours with a temperature at or above freezing, with a max of +0.7C. The other platform is reporting every three hours and had a max of -0.1C.

Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: AvastMH on 31 December 2015, 13:23:29
jil I really hope that you manage to get cleared up quickly and STAY dry from now on, especially for New Year's Day.  :D
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: AvastMH on 31 December 2015, 13:25:07
And thinking of New Year...Pommy must be there already?!

(http://i.imgur.com/gpeCqF8.png)

I hope that 2016 is good to you and your families and friends  :D
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 31 December 2015, 13:42:33
And thinking of New Year...Pommy must be there already?!

(http://i.imgur.com/gpeCqF8.png)

I hope that 2016 is good to you and your families and friends  :D

Thanks for the greetings from the USCGC Eagle - may we all have clear sailing this coming year.  :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 31 December 2015, 16:08:15
New Years Eve, that's old hat now.
But for those who have to wake up yet.
Happy New Year.

Back to work today fixing our rental property between tenants.
No rest for the wicked.  ???
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: AvastMH on 31 December 2015, 16:23:14
Sounds like your a good landlord, Stuart. Good on'ya!  :D
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Hanibal94 on 31 December 2015, 18:20:22
OK, 2016 has arrived in Central Europe, so...

Happy New Year!
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Michael on 31 December 2015, 18:31:06
OK, 2016 has arrived in Central Europe, so...

Happy New Year!

OK, Hanibal. I asked Stuart, but he didn't tell me... is 2016 worth going to or should I stay back in 2015? I have 8 hours and 30 minutes to make up my mind.  ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Craig on 31 December 2015, 20:14:23
Just keep moving west as fast as you can, Michael.   ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Michael on 31 December 2015, 20:18:04
Just keep moving west as fast as you can, Michael.   ;D

Thanks, Craig, it looks like I have no other choice. Obviously I simply can't count on anyone in Europe or down under to give me a heads up.  :'(
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: AvastMH on 31 December 2015, 20:21:21
2016 report from 65miles west of Big Ben....it's looking good so far..but why not head west anyway?!?  ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Michael on 31 December 2015, 20:36:58
2016 report from 65miles west of Big Ben....it's looking good so far..but why not head west anyway?!?  ;D

The only thing holding back is the idea of swimming like mad to stay ahead of the midnight line. The air temperature here is 2.1C with a north wind to 11 kmh. Maybe I'll be brave, and trust your observation that's looking good right now.  ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: AvastMH on 31 December 2015, 20:55:34
Tough call! If the water were 2.2C  and the wind speed a little lower...nah! Go with my report and save gettng your swimming trunks wet ;)  ;D

Signing off now....catch up with your new year once you're in it too  :D
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 31 December 2015, 21:19:24
Just a little less than 3 hours to go here in Cleveland.  I'll try to send an update after it arrives. ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2015
Post by: Michael on 31 December 2015, 22:25:51
Just a little less than 3 hours to go here in Cleveland.  I'll try to send an update after it arrives. ;D

Looking forward to it. Can't buy a wet suit, all the stores seem to be closed.  :(