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Title: Chat - 2014
Post by: lollia paolina on 01 January 2014, 01:53:27
Happy New Year!!!

Buon Anno, Old Weather!!!
:)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Maikel on 01 January 2014, 03:34:41
Gelukkig Nieuwjaar
Happy New Year


:)  I wish you all a happy and healthy 2014.  :)
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Post by: Randi on 01 January 2014, 03:39:45
Happy New Year!
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Post by: Caro on 01 January 2014, 05:10:29
(http://www.abc.net.au/news/image/4448972-3x2-940x627.jpg)

Happy new year!
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Post by: jil on 01 January 2014, 05:33:37
Happy New Year to all  :)
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Post by: Hanibal94 on 01 January 2014, 05:53:43
Happy New Year everybody!

Hope this didn't happen to you:

(http://fc07.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2013/169/3/3/explosive_countdown__by_coltsteelstallion-d5px0ig.jpg)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Craig on 01 January 2014, 06:36:42
Bonne Ann?e!
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Post by: Randi on 01 January 2014, 07:00:57
That's why I didn't do it in French ;)
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Post by: Janet Jaguar on 01 January 2014, 07:01:32
Happy New Year!

(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_luxknxCWO31qlsiq8o1_500.gif)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Craig on 01 January 2014, 07:28:32
That's why I didn't do it in French ;)

Live and learn.  :D

The question mark appropriately symbolizes the profound uncertainty of life only exceeded by our eternal hope for peace and harmony.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Randi on 01 January 2014, 07:30:54
 ;D
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Post by: Dean on 01 January 2014, 08:05:40
May the New Year bring an abundance of blessings to you and yours!!


(And may you finds lots of time for OW!)   ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Hanibal94 on 01 January 2014, 13:16:09
Here (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/in-pictures-25567253) are some nice New Year's pictures from around the world.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Thursday Next on 01 January 2014, 13:27:25
Happy New Year to everyone!
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Post by: Pommy Stuart on 01 January 2014, 15:03:24
Belated HNY to everybody.
Did anybody see the Dubai display? and is it available for reply anywhere?

(Joan, our horses get a year older on 1st Aug in the southern hemisphere, (maybe that's why the northern horses come down and win our races they are older?))

Expecting close to 500c in some parts of Australia today.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Caro on 01 January 2014, 15:09:10
It's on YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?feature=player_detailpage&v=X0lS-nkCcwk
Of course.  :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Thursday Next on 01 January 2014, 15:22:46
Yes, I saw the Dubai display.  I thought it was spectacular.  (I had been going to tactfully not mention it  ::) ... but then Stuart brought it up...)  I don't think Sydney can afford to be complacent about this - the London fireworks were pretty good, too, this year.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 01 January 2014, 16:55:11
Thanks for your consideration Thursday (Su?)
We don't quite have the money the UAI has.
London was well presented on the BBC recording, we will have to lift our game as some fireworks were very nice.
Wonder if you could get a gondola in the eye for the display and how much if so?
"I'm the cat with the base and drum' song is used on an ad for 'Target' ( a general store chain, mainly clothing) and the Bum, Bum,Bum was very well fitted in..

Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Craig on 02 January 2014, 07:05:52
OW computers seem a bit sluggish this AM. It must be cold over there. It sure is here.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: AvastMH on 02 January 2014, 08:27:14
It didn't rain this morning here. But the skies are darkening and the met office has warnings out. Still - we are not as chilly as you are Craig - you need a bit of what Stuart is getting!
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Hanibal94 on 02 January 2014, 14:12:07
Good evening OW.

I have found another one of those nice videos about helping homeless people - in this one, they get Christmas presents. (http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=mm1I3mjDFvA)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 02 January 2014, 14:18:18
Lovely, Hanibal.  Thanks.
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Post by: Craig on 02 January 2014, 15:43:17
That was lovely, Hanibal. It's interesting how reasonable their requests were. It shows that the less you have, the less you want. Or, perhaps they didn't dare ask for too much.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 02 January 2014, 16:27:00
Joy comes from little things more often than big things.  It's hard when even the little things are out of reach.
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Post by: AvastMH on 02 January 2014, 17:16:50
Wow - that's a good one Hannibal!

I heard about the equality issues that new Mayor de Blasio wishes to deal out within the Big Apple. Let's hope he can work similar magic! :D
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Caro on 03 January 2014, 02:32:51
Good morning OW, good morning rain.  :o
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Steeleye on 03 January 2014, 02:47:03
I've just seen the news reports of the blizzards and snow in the NE US (and presumably Canada as well).  It also looks like Caro and UK colleaguesmight be getting some wet-rot between the toes in the UK as well.  Hang in there, shipmates, and keep the hot water bottles charged ...only a few months to spring, if you manage one this year.

Meanwhile, at the bottom of the planet, things are ever so slightly different.  The following is a synopsis of an article on the ABC web site at the moment (with political comments removed, to avoid upsetting anyone):

"The Bureau of Meteorology's annual climate statement shows that 2013 was Australia's hottest year since records began in 1910, with the hottest spring and summer, the hottest January and September, the hottest summer day and the warmest winter day. 
The national mean temperature was 1.2 degrees celsius above the 1961-1990 average.  The record-breaking heat is continuing into 2014, with four weather stations in central Queensland recording highest-ever temperatures on Thursday."

Yesterday, Moomba in northern South Australia reached 49.3C, not all that far short of the all-time Oz record of 50.6 set at Oodnadatta 53 years ago.

I'm sure that these are all perfectly normal variations.  Not.

 8)


Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Caro on 03 January 2014, 02:52:53
Perfectly abnormal variations, yes. ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Randi on 03 January 2014, 02:58:59
Perfectly normal variations given what we are pumping into the atmosphere ::)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Caro on 03 January 2014, 04:41:32
(http://burnanenergyjournal.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/WorldMap_EnergyConsumptionPerCapita2010_v4_BargraphKey.jpg)

http://burnanenergyjournal.com/how-much-energy-are-we-using/
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: studentforever on 03 January 2014, 06:06:07
Wish me luck, I'm driving back to Scotland over the next couple of days. Fortunately it's mainly motorway but the winds look nasty.  I debated whether to stay on but the next few days look little better and I could do with getting back to deal with normal life again next week.  Apparently this set of storms is due to the jet stream and its current position according to the Met Office.

 :( >:(
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Randi on 03 January 2014, 06:14:33
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/09/Four_Leaf_Clover_068.jpg)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Dean on 03 January 2014, 09:11:56
Wish me luck, I'm driving back to Scotland over the next couple of days. Fortunately it's mainly motorway but the winds look nasty.  I debated whether to stay on but the next few days look little better and I could do with getting back to deal with normal life again next week.  Apparently this set of storms is due to the jet stream and its current position according to the Met Office.

 :( >:(

Safe trip! We'll keep you in our thoughts and prayers!   :-*
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Caro on 03 January 2014, 09:50:13
Good luck, Rosemary.
Do let us know when you reach home.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: szukacz on 03 January 2014, 12:40:04
Greenland energy consumption  ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Helen J on 03 January 2014, 12:50:05
Good luck Rosemary - hope you can dodge the downpours and the gales.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: AvastMH on 03 January 2014, 13:04:26
Wish me luck, I'm driving back to Scotland over the next couple of days. Fortunately it's mainly motorway but the winds look nasty.  I debated whether to stay on but the next few days look little better and I could do with getting back to deal with normal life again next week.  Apparently this set of storms is due to the jet stream and its current position according to the Met Office.

 :( >:(
Goodluck Rosemary - very good choice to go soon - the isobars tomorrow don't look too bad, but Sunday's looking grim.
Safe journey.
Joan
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: AvastMH on 03 January 2014, 13:05:36
Jeepers - just seen the news about the  weather in NE USA  :o - I hope you are all warm and safe!
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Kathy on 03 January 2014, 14:43:15
I'm warm and toasty inside - my sister is in Connecticut - I haven't heard anything from her, so I'm assuming she and her family are ok -

seems like nasty weather everywhere!
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Helen J on 03 January 2014, 14:54:25
Good to see you here, Kathy, and glad to hear that you're warm and toasty - me too! 
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Thursday Next on 03 January 2014, 15:45:30
Wish me luck, I'm driving back to Scotland over the next couple of days. Fortunately it's mainly motorway but the winds look nasty.  I debated whether to stay on but the next few days look little better and I could do with getting back to deal with normal life again next week.  Apparently this set of storms is due to the jet stream and its current position according to the Met Office.

 :( >:(

Good luck on your journey, Rosemary.  With regard to one of the previous sets of storms the Met Office said the freezing conditions in eastern Canada were also linked to the jet stream and the speed of air currents within it, so looks like the present extreme weather on both sides of the Atlantic might also be linked.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Craig on 03 January 2014, 16:09:24
Quite right, Su; Eastern Canada is getting hit. The rest of us have been in a deep freeze for the last several days. It was down to about -28 C last night in Ottawa and it got all the way up to -23 this afternoon - although they said it's about -35 with the windchill factor. Just right for a brisk walk. But we'll get a bit of snow and higher temperatures on the weekend. This was normal weather for this part of the world 20 years ago but it is rather rare now.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: camiller on 03 January 2014, 17:13:51
30 degrees below average here in NY, but not nearly as cold as Ottawa!  I'm not liking when I have to go outside!  Stay warm, everyone!
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 03 January 2014, 18:56:57
Lordy, Craig I"m glad you Canadians sent us only the warm edge of your arctic cold!!!  We've had only about a foot of snow, and it dips down to 0F only at night.  Chicago weather is surprising, our bad weather is much nicer than what others are being hit with.  England is having it hard too, in a different way.  It's like the whole northern hemisphere is going nuts together.

Take care, and keep yourselves well wrapped.

(http://www.smileyvault.com/albums/userpics/12177/x-aknigh.gif)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Steeleye on 04 January 2014, 06:27:22
Quite right, Su; Eastern Canada is getting hit. The rest of us have been in a deep freeze for the last several days. It was down to about -28 C last night in Ottawa and it got all the way up to -23 this afternoon - although they said it's about -35 with the windchill factor. Just right for a brisk walk. But we'll get a bit of snow and higher temperatures on the weekend. This was normal weather for this part of the world 20 years ago but it is rather rare now.

You are welcome to come and join us down here to thaw out; we have plenty of degrees to spare for you all at the moment.  If you could find a plane that can take off at the moment, Craig, you could get here in about 24 hours.  However, the change of temp of 60C in that time might be a bit testing for the body!
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Craig on 04 January 2014, 06:55:30
Ha! thanks for the offer, Steeleye.  ;D  A compromise might be to go south until it's pleasant, like many Canadians do. We call them Snowbirds. Florida is a popular destination. I quite like the winter though, as long as I don't have to shovel snow too frequently. Today's high will be -7 C, which is quite tolerable. It never stays below -20 for more than two or three days at a time here. Our US friends usually send up a low pressure system to warm us up. This is part of the NAFTA free trade agreement. In return, we send them our oil and gas  ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 04 January 2014, 08:27:43
I thought we were just complaining about your over-shipment to us of too much arctic air. :o ::)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Craig on 04 January 2014, 10:27:06
We definitely need to fine-tune the agreement, Janet  ;D
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Post by: Janet Jaguar on 04 January 2014, 14:08:49
 ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: studentforever on 04 January 2014, 15:11:01
The forum may well have a hot line to someone up there.  The gale force winds were blowing me nicely up the M6, reduced my petrol consumption as well!  The threatened snow did not materialise and the traffic was much lighter than usual.  So, while the journey was still tiring the dreaded cross-winds did not happen and at times the road was almost dry.

Thanks for your good wishes.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Caro on 04 January 2014, 15:28:22
Glad to hear you are safely home, Rosemary.
As Philip once said, we always knew oldWeather was awesome ....  :o :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 04 January 2014, 16:01:22
I'm glad our prayers and good wishes worked.  It's good to know you are safe home.  :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Randi on 04 January 2014, 16:03:02
Thanks for letting us know ;D
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Post by: Dean on 04 January 2014, 20:08:47
Thanks for letting us know ;D


 ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: studentforever on 05 January 2014, 03:35:55
Bless you all.  I haven't met any of you for 'real' but the sense of comradeship here is almost tangible.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Hanibal94 on 05 January 2014, 04:02:42
I haven't met any of you for 'real' but the sense of comradeship here is almost tangible.

I agree 100%. You guys are my biggest reason for sticking with OW no matter what, because it just wouldn't feel the same without this forum and all the great information and laughs it contains. And all this despite the fact that I haven't met any of you in real life.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 05 January 2014, 04:09:22
We are a true community.  :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Steeleye on 05 January 2014, 06:30:06
If any of us do meet in 'real' life (and what's 'unreal' about this one, pray tell?), do you want to bet that the first words we'll say to each other will be something like: "You don't look like that!"

I don't know what strange quirk of the human mind it is that automatically assigns a face to somebody who we know but who we haven't actually met.  Perhaps we could start a new forum thread: "In 10 words or less, describe what Janet/Caro/Dean (whoever) looks like".

 :-[
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: jil on 05 January 2014, 06:34:53
If any of us do meet in 'real' life (and what's 'unreal' about this one, pray tell?), do you want to bet that the first words we'll say to each other will be something like: "You don't look like that!"

;D Before or after discussing the weather?
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Randi on 05 January 2014, 06:50:48
I haven't met any of you for 'real' but the sense of comradeship here is almost tangible.

I agree 100%. You guys are my biggest reason for sticking with OW no matter what, because it just wouldn't feel the same without this forum and all the great information and laughs it contains. And all this despite the fact that I haven't met any of you in real life.

Thank you Hanibal94!
I think we all feel the same way!
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Craig on 05 January 2014, 07:19:37
If any of us do meet in 'real' life (and what's 'unreal' about this one, pray tell?), do you want to bet that the first words we'll say to each other will be something like: "You don't look like that!"

;D Before or after discussing the weather?

 ;D  That's what I was thinking, Jil.

I agree, Hanibal. As for your suggestion, Steeleye, this could be dangerous. To be safe, I would say that you all look beautiful and/or handsome and, given my lack of success in guessing people's gender I would leave it at that.  ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: studentforever on 05 January 2014, 07:22:13
It's funny, I don't put faces to names but I do put voices and, to some extent, figures.  I imagined HelenJ as taller than the photo she shared.  Because I don't have a TV I often don't match up names of people in the news to photos or voices and sometimes the reality can be a real shock.  When I watched the Lord of the Rings I thought 'Legolas doesn't sound like that!' (I couldn't describe what he did sound like though).
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Helen J on 05 January 2014, 07:33:29
Glad you got home OK Rosemary - and if we don't have a hot line for sorting out the weather, then who does?

I'd love to be taller than I am!  Maybe that desire is what you were picking up in your imagination?  Though I keep trying to be grateful that I've got to the height I have, given how small my mother is ....
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Hanibal94 on 05 January 2014, 07:35:21
If any of us do meet in 'real' life (and what's 'unreal' about this one, pray tell?), do you want to bet that the first words we'll say to each other will be something like: "You don't look like that!"

I don't know what strange quirk of the human mind it is that automatically assigns a face to somebody who we know but who we haven't actually met.  Perhaps we could start a new forum thread: "In 10 words or less, describe what Janet/Caro/Dean (whoever) looks like".

 :-[

I tend to think of the other people here as being older guys, because I know we have some retirees here (Dean, Stuart and possibly Silvia).
I also imagine Maikel as being a stereotypical geek, the kind who drinks Mountain Dew instead of water and is more fluent in Technobabble than English (OK, maybe I'm exaggerating a little here).
As for me - well, I'm a geek too, because I just started a course in computer science, I know how to do things like hacking into the files of computer games to make my character invulnerable (INSERT EVIL LAUGHTER HERE), and in my spare time, I like to play Batman computer games or watch a children's cartoon about colorful ponies having magical adventures and learning about friendship.
Oh, and I may just be the youngest member here too - I started at the age of 16 in October 2010, and I'm 19 right now.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 05 January 2014, 07:41:47
Quote
I tend to think of the other people here as being older guys, because I know we have some retirees here (Dean, Stuart and possibly Silvia).

And me. ;)

That's part of being true community - its generational.  :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: studentforever on 05 January 2014, 10:04:16
I no longer do paid work either but I'm still working on the learning bit - I don't know if it does stave of the dreaded dementia but it's fun trying!

Helen - as I say to my much taller brother - you don't get diamonds as big as bricks.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 05 January 2014, 10:38:48
I figure, as long as I like learning - and putting young folk around me to learn from - I still count as young inside.  (complaints from feet and knees don't count.)  :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Caro on 05 January 2014, 11:37:28
Perhaps those of you who are within travelling distance could plan to be in Portsmouth UK (I think!) for the next ZooCon in early summer? I'm sure more definite plans will be announced nearer the time.  ;)
I hope that it is held in Portsmouth. I haven't seen the new Mary Rose museum yet.
Philip, Joan and I went to the 2013 ZooCon and I think it's fair to say we had a great time.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: studentforever on 05 January 2014, 12:10:45
This is the latest extreme weather report - hope all our N American OWers stay safe and relatively warm.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-25609411
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Dean on 05 January 2014, 12:29:38
I haven't met any of you for 'real' but the sense of comradeship here is almost tangible.

I agree 100%. You guys are my biggest reason for sticking with OW no matter what, because it just wouldn't feel the same without this forum and all the great information and laughs it contains. And all this despite the fact that I haven't met any of you in real life.

Thank you Hanibal94!
I think we all feel the same way!

I think this is true for most of us. The FORUM is as important as the transcribing we do. Just to have 'met' such great, fascinating people...to have shared information, help, AND 'personal things' (trips, vacations, local weather) has made this a most enjoyable situation that I (we) hope continues for a Looooooooog time! ;D ;D

BTW - Some of us have 'met' via Skype & stuff. Interesting!
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 05 January 2014, 12:36:10
This is the latest extreme weather report - hope all our N American OWers stay safe and relatively warm.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-25609411

Safe and indoors - I went shopping this morning and stocked, on the assumption the continuing (not yet shoveled) new snow is safer than this kind of frigid cold.  We had something a little worse than this 30 years ago in the early 1980s, and I've been hoping ever since it was a once-in-a-lifetime experience.  It's going to twice in life time.  Sigh.  And I don't want to even think of what the Canadians have north of the border.

How is England doing with your record breaking rain and floods?  Having this much bad on both sides of the Atlantic at the same time is creeping me out.

Translating the attached numbers to Centigrade
     high tomorrow of -7F to -15F (-22 to -26C)
     minimum (could get worse) wind chills of -30F to -50F (-34 to -45C)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Caro on 05 January 2014, 12:43:10
It's been relatively quiet where I am in the south of the UK today.
The outlook is not good: http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2014/jan/05/uk-winter-storms-worst-two-decades
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Craig on 05 January 2014, 13:19:36
You can't blame that one on us, Janet. It's going up to +1 C here tomorrow with a balmy -18 C ( 0 F) low tomorrow night.  ;D 
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 05 January 2014, 13:51:23
I'm glad - I wasn't blaming, I was worrying.  I didn't know it had gotten weird enuf to be colder in the south than the north.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Randi on 05 January 2014, 13:54:28
Holidays - the politicians were home with their families instead of giving speeches :-X
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 05 January 2014, 14:44:35
All that hot air has value somewhere? :o ::)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 05 January 2014, 14:46:57
2013.
Australia's hottest year on record.
See the video at http://www.smh.com.au/environment/climate-change/2013-confirmed-as-australias-hottest-year-on-record-20140103-308ek.html (http://www.smh.com.au/environment/climate-change/2013-confirmed-as-australias-hottest-year-on-record-20140103-308ek.html)

They say there is no such thing as bad weather just bad choice of clothes. That is fine for those who can chose, not good for the others.
I hope they are surviving the mess up north.
 
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 05 January 2014, 14:51:20
Wild no-good weather everywhere globally.  Totally not good.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: AvastMH on 05 January 2014, 19:32:24
Perhaps those of you who are within travelling distance could plan to be in Portsmouth UK (I think!) for the next ZooCon in early summer? I'm sure more definite plans will be announced nearer the time.  ;)
I hope that it is held in Portsmouth. I haven't seen the new Mary Rose museum yet.
Philip, Joan and I went to the 2013 ZooCon and I think it's fair to say we had a great time.
Yep - great day - and a great chance to keep the night-sky zooniversers in contact with the motherplanet.... ;) ;) ;D
And Portsmouth has to be good - Mary Rose and all!
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 05 January 2014, 23:06:52
I got this from a friend, a global wind map.  The globe can be rotated with click-and-drag.  The system occupying the entire North Atlantic looks scary-fierce.

http://earth.nullschool.net/
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 06 January 2014, 02:27:56
That's neat.  8)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Randi on 06 January 2014, 02:34:22
Very neat!
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Caro on 06 January 2014, 03:28:12
Good morning OW.
Hope you are all safe and keeping warm in the frozen parts of the US and Canada.
The storms continue here; gales, violent seas, flooding ... but it is not cold.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: szukacz on 06 January 2014, 03:31:33
Beautiful in its simplicity  :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 06 January 2014, 05:41:19
Hi, szukacz, glad to see you some times.  :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Randi on 06 January 2014, 06:02:17
We are STILL working on getting some typed logs! ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Hanibal94 on 06 January 2014, 07:46:23
Good morning OW.
Hope you are all safe and keeping warm in the frozen parts of the US and Canada.
The storms continue here; gales, violent seas, flooding ... but it is not cold.

Everything's fine in Saxony, where I live. No snow except in the mountains, and temperatures are expected to stay around 8 - 13 C for the next few days.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 06 January 2014, 08:59:45
I'm glad someone had decent weather - that sounds more like late autumn instead of winter.  Nice.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Hanibal94 on 06 January 2014, 10:33:27
It's not going to last, I think - forecast for the weekend is 0-3 C, and I remember a cold snap in mid-January 2012 that took everyone by surprise.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 06 January 2014, 11:09:09
That's still very mild.  Enjoy.  :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: camiller on 06 January 2014, 11:12:57
 8)

I got this from a friend, a global wind map.  The globe can be rotated with click-and-drag.  The system occupying the entire North Atlantic looks scary-fierce.

http://earth.nullschool.net/
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: philip.brohan on 06 January 2014, 12:26:50
I like that wind animation a lot. I think it uses data from GFS (http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/data-access/model-data/model-datasets/global-forcast-system-gfs), and basically we are trying to do what GFS does , but with the logbook observations, for historical periods. It runs best in Chrome for me - I recommend the view at 250hPa (height) - you can see the jet streams.

I live in South-West England, and we've been experiencing that North Atlantic storm and it's friends for way too long now - they are producing lots of rain, which is coming down the rivers, and blowing the sea onto coastal communities and back up the rivers - lots of people are experiencing floods.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Hanibal94 on 06 January 2014, 12:49:35
Good evening OW.
Anybody else feel like stealing a donut truck and giving away the goodies? (http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=72NELwSeafk)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Helen J on 06 January 2014, 13:01:17
 :D :D :D
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 06 January 2014, 13:16:28
(http://s3.amazonaws.com/beZambee/smiley_images/36/df86b527c567a6b5c53fa2472070060bd2f84483.png)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 06 January 2014, 13:30:55
When I went up to 10 pascals, to see what earth-rotation does when rubbing against space, I found a surprise.  The south pole (pacific on top) are a perfect circle moving counterclockwise.  The north pole (pacific on top) is an S-shape, clockwise over the Pacific and counterclockwise over the Atlantic.  Cool.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Dean on 06 January 2014, 13:33:37
What a wonderful attitude!!!   ;D ;D

Gotta give the guy credit!!  AND Krispy Cream!!


(P.S. Lost a friend to ALS - it's pretty rough.)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Helen J on 06 January 2014, 13:56:14
Love the images, Janet.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 06 January 2014, 14:07:52
I like that wind animation a lot. I think it uses data from GFS (http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/data-access/model-data/model-datasets/global-forcast-system-gfs), and basically we are trying to do what GFS does , but with the logbook observations, for historical periods. It runs best in Chrome for me - I recommend the view at 250hPa (height) - you can see the jet streams.

I live in South-West England, and we've been experiencing that North Atlantic storm and it's friends for way too long now - they are producing lots of rain, which is coming down the rivers, and blowing the sea onto coastal communities and back up the rivers - lots of people are experiencing floods.

How do you change the pressure view, I can only rotate the globe?
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Randi on 06 January 2014, 14:17:45
Click on the word Earth.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 07 January 2014, 00:59:06
Click on the word Earth.

Ta.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Caro on 07 January 2014, 11:49:53
Seen on Twitter:

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BdY_CpFCYAAoPBe.jpg)

St Joseph Lighthouse, Lake Michigan.  :o
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Craig on 07 January 2014, 12:05:12
Wow, that should be Lake "Erie" !
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Hanibal94 on 07 January 2014, 12:09:21
Woah. I sure hope nobody was inside.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 07 January 2014, 12:20:08
This was one photographer (definitely crazy to be out in this frigid windy bit with lake water maybe blowing on him) taking views of one lighthouse pier.  And all lighthouses in the US went automated a long time ago.  I can't find any others, apparently no other photographers were that suicidal.  But the results are breathtaking.  Never doubt that the Great Lakes are large and dangerous bodies of water.

Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: jil on 07 January 2014, 12:27:34
Amazing photos!
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Hanibal94 on 07 January 2014, 13:18:44
Good evening OW.

Yet another nice story of people helping the homeless can be found here, (http://www.goodnewsnetwork.org/inspired/individuals/73-shoeboxes-filled-with-goodies-for-homeless.html) and there's also a great video at the bottom of the page.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: AvastMH on 07 January 2014, 13:23:05
Jeepers - that's a very impressive photo. Crushing weight of water - that tower used to stand at the best part of 50 metres....  ;) ;) ;D  (just joshing - well if you don't laugh at it you'd have to cry!)

just to say that the US made it as headline news today over here - they poured cold water on a t-shirt in Washington (only at -12C) and it froze solid in 5 minutes...eek.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Randi on 07 January 2014, 13:25:00
Good evening OW.

Yet another nice story of people helping the homeless can be found here, (http://www.goodnewsnetwork.org/inspired/individuals/73-shoeboxes-filled-with-goodies-for-homeless.html) and there's also a great video at the bottom of the page.

Wonderful!
If more people did that...
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Kathy on 07 January 2014, 15:02:13
The dog has NEVER gone about her business so fast -  :P

Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Thursday Next on 07 January 2014, 15:26:26
This was one photographer (definitely crazy to be out in this frigid windy bit with lake water maybe blowing on him) taking views of one lighthouse pier.  And all lighthouses in the US went automated a long time ago.  I can't find any others, apparently no other photographers were that suicidal.  But the results are breathtaking.  Never doubt that the Great Lakes are large and dangerous bodies of water.

There is another fairly spectacular photo of Lake Michigan on this page: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-25632586

Not quite as dramatic as the lighthouse, and we can't be sure if it's another suicidal photographer - or the same one!
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Randi on 07 January 2014, 15:34:34
The dog has NEVER gone about her business so fast -  :P
;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Randi on 07 January 2014, 15:37:13
From Thursday Next's link :o
Quote
And in Kentucky, a man who escaped from a minimum security prison turned himself in to get out of the cold, the Associated Press reported.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Dean on 07 January 2014, 15:47:53
Seen on Twitter:

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BdY_CpFCYAAoPBe.jpg)

St Joseph Lighthouse, Lake Michigan.  :o

THAT will put a little frost on your pumpkin!!! ::)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 07 January 2014, 16:00:32
They've had smaller waves than those battering the English coasts on the BBC articles, it just all freezes in place.  I don't know which of the two is scarier.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 07 January 2014, 18:55:52
I recognize the POV of that photo of the ice (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-25637817) in front of the Chicago skyline - they were standing on the man-made peninsula into the lake, right next to the Adler Planetarium where our PTB have their US headquarters.  You're looking at what Zooniverse folks will see when they finally show up for work.  (That museum was closed these 2 days - they wanted no one walking in that lake breeze to get in.)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: AvastMH on 07 January 2014, 19:07:54
The dog has NEVER gone about her business so fast -  :P

On the bbc news they showed N Americans throwing pans of BOILING water in the air and it instantly turned into ice, way before hitting the path.  If I were a dog I'd be tiddling at top speed too. ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 07 January 2014, 19:39:57
That trick, while true, falls in the "do not try this at home" category - some kids tried it in a different format, just opening a window to throw the water out of without noticing the wind was blowing everything sent out directly back in.  The water never left the room-warmed air, just got flung back in their faces to scald them.  The reporter I saw, did it outside in a wind-sheltered alley.  It turned to ice crystals in mid air.

Kathy has a very smart dog. :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: camiller on 07 January 2014, 20:06:47
How have I lived in the north for 15 years and not tried this!? ;D  I probably shouldn't give my kids any ideas....

My cat usually loves to go outside, but these days actually hides under the desk when we open the door!


That trick, while true, falls in the "do not try this at home" category - some kids tried it in a different format, just opening a window to throw the water out of without noticing the wind was blowing everything sent out directly back in.  The water never left the room-warmed air, just got flung back in their faces to scald them.  The reporter I saw, did it outside in a wind-sheltered alley.  It turned to ice crystals in mid air.

Kathy has a very smart dog. :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 07 January 2014, 20:47:03
Because we live in the southern part of north, and only get the polar vortex once every 20 or 30 years? 8)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: camiller on 07 January 2014, 21:00:52
 :D 
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Randi on 08 January 2014, 10:41:51
Polar vortex: How to survive extreme cold (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/blogs-magazine-monitor-25642694)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Dean on 08 January 2014, 16:28:26
Absolutely BALMY here right now in western New York State at 18?F or -7?C!!  ;D

Wind died off over night. We've been looking at -15?F (-10?C) with - 40?F (-40?C) wind chills for the last couple of days!
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 08 January 2014, 17:50:51
Sounds like you received exactly what passed thru Chicago unchanged, with 4F degrees added to our warmth today.  It is indeed over.  Thank goodness.  :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 08 January 2014, 20:33:18
Happy Birthday Michael (MAPurves)

To all the Northerners, Keep Warm.


Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 08 January 2014, 20:41:17
Happy Birthday, Michael   :D

(http://caccioppoli.com/Animated%20gifs/Birthday%20cake/0020.gif)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Michael on 08 January 2014, 22:30:43
Thank you one and all.  :)

About throwing the boiling water in the air - I've done it, and it works. It is a case of rapid evaporative cooling as the very hot water droplets evaporate extremely quickly in the very dry air lowering their temperature quickly to values below freezing. If you throw cold water in the air, nothing much happens. It lands on the ground and in a minute or so it freezes, leaving a very slick sidewalk.

Michael
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: camiller on 08 January 2014, 22:42:51
Happy Birthday, Michael and thanks for the tip! ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Dean on 09 January 2014, 01:38:07
Michael:

   Happy Birthday to you,
   Happy Birthday to you,
   Happy Birthday dear Miiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiichaaaaaaaaaaaaaaeeeeeellllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll,
   Happy Birthday to you!


Hope it's a happy one and that you get lots of neat presents!

Hope also you get to share with family!   ;D ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Randi on 09 January 2014, 02:23:40
Happy Birthday, Michael!

And interesting about the need for the water to be boiling!
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: AvastMH on 09 January 2014, 04:20:50
   Happy Birthday to you,
   Happy Birthday to you,
   Happy Birthday dear Miiiichaaeelll,
   Happy Birthday to you!

Have a great day with friends and family!
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Craig on 09 January 2014, 06:49:04
All the best, Michael!
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Helen J on 09 January 2014, 06:52:17
Happy birthday, Michael.  Maybe your present from OW will be a solution to the pages loading problem?
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: lollia paolina on 09 January 2014, 07:18:45
Best wishes, Michael :) :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Maikel on 09 January 2014, 13:28:52
Congratulations Michael,
Maikel  :D
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Caro on 10 January 2014, 02:48:11
Sorry, I'm a bit late to the party.
Happy birthday Michael.  :)

Good morning OW. A change in the weather here: the rain has stopped and the frost is back.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Kathy on 10 January 2014, 06:02:33
Happy Birthday, Michael - 1961, you?
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Randi on 10 January 2014, 06:18:12
Hi Kathy!
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Kathy on 10 January 2014, 06:23:52
Hi to you!
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Michael on 10 January 2014, 16:27:05
Happy Birthday, Michael - 1961, you?

1961???
I was a teenager by then...   :-[

Michael
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Kathy on 10 January 2014, 19:30:19
It is still a great day  :-*
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Michael on 10 January 2014, 21:33:07
Having met, even if vicariously, such a wonderful group as the OW crew makes each day even better!
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Kathy on 10 January 2014, 23:15:18
That is very true.  I was thinking though of the other notable happenings on January 8:  Elvis born, Nixon born, Battle of New Orleans, and of course, January 8, 1961... :o  ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Caro on 11 January 2014, 02:18:47
Do I understand you to mean that we missed your birthday, Kathy?
If so, apologies and belated wishes for a very happy birthday.  :-*
Hope it was a good one.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Randi on 11 January 2014, 02:42:40
Wednesday  January 8'th, 2014


Happy Birthday Kathy!
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 11 January 2014, 02:52:10
Sorry, I'm a bit late to the party.
Happy birthday Michael.  :)

Good morning OW. A change in the weather here: the rain has stopped and the frost is back.

I think you got it on the actual day.
I think I was a day earlier (as usual ahead of the field) %^)

appy birfday kafi, hickup.  (grin)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: jil on 11 January 2014, 06:05:14
Belated Happy Birthdays to Michael and Kathy!

Can I claim I'm in some time zone several days behind everyone else?
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Hanibal94 on 11 January 2014, 07:57:47
Belated Happy Birthdays to Michael and Kathy!

Please accept this video (http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=jwC544Z37qo) of the world's fastest tetris player in action as an apology for not congratulating you earlier.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Kathy on 11 January 2014, 11:18:48
Thanks for the wishes - I had a very nice day.

I have to laugh at myself (a frequent occurrence  ::)) - I always wondered how Caro knew when it was someone's birthday, but never really gave it much thought until I found out that Michael and I share the same date.  I started rooting around the forum, and lo and behold, I found, in my forum profile the birthday field, as well as gender and location.  I don't know how I missed those in 2010...so, at last, the mystery of the birthdays has been solved for me.  ;D  :P
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: camiller on 11 January 2014, 12:11:28
Happy Birthday, Kathy!
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Caro on 11 January 2014, 12:37:12
I only know it's someone's birthday if I am told!  ;D  And I have a long memory. (That's not true. We keep a little list.)
Birthday and gender information on your forum profile is optional.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Michael on 11 January 2014, 13:09:40
Happy Birthday, Kathy! I didn't clue in as quickly as the others. Yours was the 8th, but mine was the 10th. We're not quite sharing the same day, but close. You, however, are still a spring chicken!  :D  I hope your birthday was as pleasant as was mine.

Thanks for the wishes - I had a very nice day.

I have to laugh at myself (a frequent occurrence  ::)) - I always wondered how Caro knew when it was someone's birthday, but never really gave it much thought until I found out that Michael and I share the same date.  I started rooting around the forum, and lo and behold, I found, in my forum profile the birthday field, as well as gender and location.  I don't know how I missed those in 2010...so, at last, the mystery of the birthdays has been solved for me.  ;D  :P
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 12 January 2014, 00:56:58
I am sure this is somewhere else but it may be useful for those who cannot find it.

http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Concord/vol020of040/vol020of040_004_0.jpg (http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Concord/vol020of040/vol020of040_004_0.jpg)
and
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Concord/vol020of040/vol020of040_004_1.jpg (http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Concord/vol020of040/vol020of040_004_1.jpg)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 12 January 2014, 01:50:04
Thank you.  The clouds list is part of the cloud types reference topic (http://forum.oldweather.org/index.php?topic=3003.0), but they are an early learning experience for the scan operator.  Yours are much clearer, so I will use them.  :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Randi on 12 January 2014, 02:55:24
Hi szukacz!
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: lollia paolina on 12 January 2014, 04:04:31
That is very true.  I was thinking though of the other notable happenings on January 8:  Elvis born, Nixon born, Battle of New Orleans, and of course, January 8, 1961... :o  ;D
Happy belated Birthday, Kathy!!! :) :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Caro on 12 January 2014, 05:55:29
Hi OW.
Want to see London in 1927?
http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?feature=player_detailpage&v=Qgxki8_R968
In 1927 Claude Friese-Greene shot some of the first-ever color film footage around London.

Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 12 January 2014, 07:32:51
Very interesting - so much has changed in the world. 
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Craig on 12 January 2014, 08:00:41
Very interesting film.  8)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Dean on 12 January 2014, 10:28:26
Fascinating!  Thanks for sharing!!   :D
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: camiller on 12 January 2014, 10:42:08
 8)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Michael on 12 January 2014, 11:57:01
Want to see Victoria, BC - Gateway to Canada - in 1935? It was an early MGM Fitzpatrick TravelTalk. Like the London film this, too, was an early colour film.

http://www.youtube.com/embed/OYZyqUVYaTc

Michael
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Kathy on 12 January 2014, 12:57:29
Both films are fascinating  8)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Caro on 13 January 2014, 15:52:53
Victoria and Vancouver: Gateway to Canada is wonderful. Thanks Michael.  :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 15 January 2014, 00:52:59
41c on my veranda today.
Sorry no OW at the moment, beer time to cool down.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 15 January 2014, 01:15:47
Be sure you're not in the sun have whatever breeze is going.  That is edging on brutal.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Caro on 15 January 2014, 02:24:19
Morning OW.
Hope it cools down soon, Stuart.
We have a mild (for winter) 9C, with rain.  ::)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: AvastMH on 15 January 2014, 03:12:09
Want to see Victoria, BC - Gateway to Canada - in 1935? It was an early MGM Fitzpatrick TravelTalk. Like the London film this, too, was an early colour film.

http://www.youtube.com/embed/OYZyqUVYaTc

Michael

Just found 5 minutes to watch this film - I don't think it changed a lot between that and 1982 - certainly not the Burdchart Gardens. Lovely - much enjoyed film.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 15 January 2014, 12:45:12
Be sure you're not in the sun have whatever breeze is going.  That is edging on brutal.
Now:
 Adelaide is currently 33.8 C @ 2:30 AM

12 Jan 2014
But the hottest temperature measured in the state (WA) - and, indeed, on the whole planet - was in the Mid-West town of Morawa, 370km north of Perth. The town's 500-plus residents had to contend with a searing 46.9C at 3.45pm
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: camiller on 15 January 2014, 12:48:32
 :o :o

Stay cool, Stuart, and good luck to everyone else in that heat!
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: AvastMH on 15 January 2014, 13:45:03
Go aquatic - live in a cold bath - it sounds unbearable.  :o
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 15 January 2014, 15:48:32
That IS brutal!!  I'd be tempted to stand under the shower fully dressed before going out, so the evaporation will cool me as I go.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 15 January 2014, 16:17:53
Go aquatic - live in a cold bath - it sounds unbearable.  :o

Joan.
I was/am English, we don't like water.   :P
But thanks for the suggestion.
Where I am it is usually mild. For the rest of the week it is normal with Max's of 32c down to 16C.
Enough from downunder.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Caro on 16 January 2014, 02:28:14
Kinda hot in Melbourne too, I hear.  :P
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Michael on 16 January 2014, 20:08:12
Too hot in Australia and too cold in eastern North America and too wet in the UK.  How about this...

I was watching Philip Brohan's interesting movie "movie" (http://"http://vimeo.com/43723075") showing the locations of global weather stations from now back into the 1890s. While there, I saw he had a "movie" of the weather maps for 1917 (http://"http://vimeo.com/77352513").

Before I left Whitehorse, I did a small project transcribing the weather reports from the White Pass and Yukon Route log books. (1902 until 1937) The logs went into the 1950s but I only got to 1932 and someone else finished them a year later. Here are weather reports I extracted from the White Pass and Yukon logs for the days just around Christmas, 1917. Temps in degrees F.

1917,12,24,Whitehorse,-60,,Calm,Foggy
1917,12,24,Lower L.,-65,,North,Foggy,
1917,12,24,Hootalinqua,-70,Clear,Calm,,
1917,12,24,Yukon X.,-72,,Calm,Foggy,
1917,12,24,Selkirk,-80,,Calm,Foggy,Temperature -86F at Pelly (Official Record North America low -81F!)
1917,12,24,Isaac Creek,-65,,Calm,Foggy,
1917,12,24,Stewart,-62,,Calm,Foggy,
1917,12,24,Dawson,-64,,,,
1917,12,25,Whitehorse,-70,,Calm,Foggy,Temperature at the barracks showed -79F last night
1917,12,26,Whitehorse,-66,,Calm,Foggy,
1917,12,27,Whitehorse,-58,,Calm,Foggy,Police thermometer showed temperature -69F last night
1917,12,28,Whitehorse,-54,,Calm,Foggy,
1917,12,29,Whitehorse,-29,Cloudy,North,,Snowed 1 in. last night
1917,12,30,Whitehorse,-17,Cloudy,North,Snowing,Snowed about 4 in. last night and this a.m.
1917,12,31,Whitehorse,-13,,North,Snowing,

The official record low for Whitehorse is -62F. The Christmas Day minimum is 17F below the official record! The -86F at Pelly is 5F below the record for Snag Yukon, -81F being the lowest official temperature recorded in North America.

Fort Selkirk    62o 47'N 137o 23'W  460m
Lower Laberge   61o 23'N 135o 17'W  608m
Hootalinqua     610 35'N 134o 54'W  586m
Yukon Crossing  62o 21'N 136o 29'W  490m
Isaac Creek     62o 50'N 138o 30'W  435m
Stewart         63o 19'N 139o 24'W  351m
Dawson          64o 03'N 139o 26'W  320m
Whitehorse      60o 43'N 135o 03'W  636m


I attached a screen copy of the map for Christmas morning (13Z). On the movie for 1917, you can see the high moving southeast and the low moving into the Gulf, bringing some snow and milder temperatures for the end of the year to the southern Yukon.

Michael
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 16 January 2014, 20:17:06
That looks about right for a hard winter in the high arctic.  Everywhere, the records being challenged are frequently old.  And if the other years balance it out, it's just freakish.  It's when the freakishness repeats in so many years that the decade's average becomes freakish that I get genuinely scared.

I do not like winter.  Canadians, you can keep your high arctic - what we have in Alaska is more than enough. ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Caro on 17 January 2014, 02:18:10
Good morning OW, from the very rainy part of the world.
It's a positively balmy 7C.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Steeleye on 17 January 2014, 04:56:19
Good evening, OW, from a very un-rainy part of the world.  I think this bout of heat must be starting to break.  Canberra didn't quite make it to 40 today and the highest I could find from around the traps was only 45.6.  A bit weak, it could be said.  Another 40 here tomorrow, and then things get a bit more civilised next week.  I won't be grieving.

(Insert sweating emoticon here.)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Caro on 17 January 2014, 05:10:03
Ew.  ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: sean0118 on 17 January 2014, 06:28:04
I'm back and the cool change is here in Melbourne! It's good to see some familiar faces are still here, is Bunts back? ;)

I would stay longer but I am currently doing vacation work to get my engineering degree, which includes 7.5 hours of Excel a day. I think Old Weather on top of that might be a bit much computer.

Also, I picked up an old photo (probably not original?) of HMS Colne's 1908-1909 football team. If you have been here awhile you might remember that she was the first ship I did a decent amount of transcribing for. Also, the football team was mentioned often in the logs, I even found one of my old posts about it! I would like to scan the photo to share with you guys, but I'm not sure if there are copyright issues?

My post from 2011:
Looks like the sailors on Colne were sports fans!

1:00pm "Gave leave to Football party" and "to party to attend Boxing contest"

http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ADM53-38213/ADM%2053-38213-005_0.jpg (http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ADM53-38213/ADM%2053-38213-005_0.jpg)

If this belongs somewhere else feel free to move it.  ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: jil on 17 January 2014, 06:34:44
I just can't imagine what it feels like in those temperatures or how you cope. I was getting a bit grumpy in the summer in the UK when it was getting above 25C!

It makes me stop complaining about the generally dull & damp weather - at least for a few minutes!
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Caro on 17 January 2014, 07:18:14
Nice to see you again, Sean, and glad to see the temperature in Melbourne has returned to something like normal.
Our dear Bunts has not returned, yet, but we are always hopeful.
Good luck with the 7.5 hours of Excel per day!
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Randi on 17 January 2014, 07:18:46
Welcome back sean0118!!!

I just saw your name in who's online and I thought that I hadn't seen you for a long time.

Very to sorry to say, no Bunts :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(

I hope you will join us on the US ships and/or climateprediction.net! - perhaps when you are doing a little less Excel ;)

In any case, do drop in more frequently.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Kathy on 17 January 2014, 15:33:58
Ta everyone -

I'm off to New York to see "No Man's Land" with Patrick Stewart and Ian McKellen... another great Christmas present from my hubby!  Two of my favorite actors!
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Helen J on 17 January 2014, 15:57:33
Have a great time, Kathy!  Nice to keep Christmas going for longer.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Randi on 17 January 2014, 16:04:45
Have fun!
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 17 January 2014, 16:10:56
I've seen Patrick Stewart live - he (and McKellen) will be a real treat.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: sean0118 on 17 January 2014, 19:05:36
Thanks everyone. So whats the finding on the photo of Colne's football team, is it safe to scan and post?  :D

I hope you will join us on the US ships and/or climateprediction.net! - perhaps when you are doing a little less Excel ;)

In any case, do drop in more frequently.

I sure will! I have been trying to run some CPDN for awhile, but first I couldn't re-connect, then all the work units would error at download, now they are out of work. But I'll start as soon as there is work. At the moment I'm running Docking@home for another team, but I'm in your team for CPDN.  ;)

Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 17 January 2014, 20:22:25
Quote
Thanks everyone. So whats the finding on the photo of Colne's football team, is it safe to scan and post?  :D

If you scan it into any file small enough, send me an email - or a PM asking for my email if you don't have access to it - and I'll send it to Gordon and post it here.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 17 January 2014, 22:22:59
Got this from a friend.  Totally irrelevant fun from Russia.  :)

https://www.youtube.com/embed/g-KIcQSWSmQ

Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Randi on 18 January 2014, 04:37:59
Article of the Day: http://encyclopedia.thefreedictionary.com/Steam+donkey
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Randi on 18 January 2014, 06:39:21
Hi sean0118 ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: sean0118 on 18 January 2014, 06:48:12
Hey Randi  ;)

That looks like an interesting article, I'll have to read it.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Randi on 18 January 2014, 08:05:46
Hi szukacz ! ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Hanibal94 on 18 January 2014, 11:46:19
Is it or me, or has the interface been updated recently? Some parts, such as the drop-down boxes, look different....
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Helen J on 18 January 2014, 12:56:02
Haven't noticed anything different (but it's perfectly possible that I might not ....)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Thursday Next on 18 January 2014, 14:07:00
I seem to be getting blue outlines around boxes now, and they used to be a sort of orangey yellow.  But I had a vague feeling that these changes went beyond OW and might have been down to a Google Chrome update.  But I have a 63 year old brain and it is not as sharp as it used to be, so I might be imagining it all ...  ???
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Randi on 18 January 2014, 14:09:53
I haven't noticed anything (Firefox)...
(but that doesn't mean too much ::))
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Hanibal94 on 18 January 2014, 14:23:47
I seem to be getting blue outlines around boxes now, and they used to be a sort of orangey yellow.  But I had a vague feeling that these changes went beyond OW and might have been down to a Google Chrome update.  But I have a 63 year old brain and it is not as sharp as it used to be, so I might be imagining it all ...  ???

You're not imagining it, TN. You're right about the outline, and I noticed the shape of the arrows in the drop down boxes have changed too.
But you're right about one thing - I tried opening the forum in Firefox, and it turns out nothing changed there. So it was a Google Chrome update after all.
Sorry for the confusion.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Randi on 18 January 2014, 15:18:20
 ;D
That clears it up!
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Helen J on 18 January 2014, 16:20:33
That makes me feel better!  I'm on Firefox, so I haven't just missed something - always reassuring to know ....  8)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 18 January 2014, 17:23:26
It is only a small the arrow shapes on mine  between IE, Chrome and firefox, all with W7.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Craig on 18 January 2014, 20:47:17
I am glad that Firefox is stable, although they never did fix the bug in the auto-complete feature that crept in several months ago. If I inadvertently delete one of the items in the list it is tricky to get it back. I usually forget how to restore it and have to rediscover the trick each time. My own mental auto-completion is faulty too.  ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Randi on 19 January 2014, 03:52:12
I had the auto-complete problem with Firefox too, but it seems to be working OK now :-\

I start to type in the subject in MS Outlook and wonder why I don't get a list of subjects like I do when I send a PM ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Caro on 19 January 2014, 06:22:10
Morning all.
There is strange shiny thing in the sky.  :o
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Helen J on 19 January 2014, 09:21:31
There is here too .... :o
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: h.kohler on 19 January 2014, 09:56:13
Here a blanket of fog covers everything.   :(
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 19 January 2014, 10:08:25
Shiny yellow thing with blue background, making yesterday's fresh snow sparkle.  :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Craig on 19 January 2014, 10:19:48
A new wave of Arctic air and blowing snow will sweep in this PM.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Randi on 19 January 2014, 12:03:40
Hi Tegwen - haven't seen you around for awhile!
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 19 January 2014, 15:31:32
I am glad that Firefox is stable, although they never did fix the bug in the auto-complete feature that crept in several months ago. If I inadvertently delete one of the items in the list it is tricky to get it back. I usually forget how to restore it and have to rediscover the trick each time. My own mental auto-completion is faulty too.  ;D

Well!!!
How do you do it?
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Tegwen on 19 January 2014, 16:17:37
Hi Tegwen - haven't seen you around for awhile!

Hi Randi, and all

I am still around the forum occasionally, but not as frequently as I used to be mainly because I have been working more than I have for some time. I am still happily editing HMS Juno in any spare moments.

I am tempted by the recent email regarding the WWI diaries. Has anyone tried it yet, or have I missed lots of posts about it?

All the best.

K


Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Randi on 19 January 2014, 16:34:58
Re WWI diaries: http://forum.oldweather.org/index.php?topic=4013.msg81125#msg81125
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 19 January 2014, 20:12:08
Hi Keith.
Good to here your still around.
Be in your part of the country in Sept. Save some good weather for us.  %^)
Stuart
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Caro on 20 January 2014, 03:02:46
Morning all.
Big frost, followed by another appearance of the yellow, shiny thing predicted for today.

"Save some good weather for us."  ::) Good luck with that, Stuart.


Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 20 January 2014, 08:35:53
The Chicago yellow thing has vanished behind gray and gloomy clouds.  More snow coming later today.  (Sigh - it is January, after all.)

Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Thursday Next on 20 January 2014, 08:45:15
BBC website today has "10 Myths about WW1 debunked" http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-25776836


I am tempted by the recent email regarding the WWI diaries. Has anyone tried it yet, or have I missed lots of posts about it?

All the best.

K


Hi Keith - Randi's already referred you to the thread about Operation War Diary and what I've done on it so far rather ties in with the BBC article.  It's interesting, but I don't find it as fascinating as OW.  I suspect it comes down to there just not being any ships!  And at the moment there are masses of people working on the project, so you have no hope of following a story through - based on what has happened on OW there are presumably a lot of people just doing a couple of pages and then never being seen again, plus a number who will be wildly enthusiastic for a few weeks then give up, so when it has settled down there might be more continuity for individual taggers.  They are currently getting through the diaries at an astonishing rate - on the first day the list of diaries went to 5 pages (20 per page maybe?) and yesterday there were only two pages.  So they need to get some more available pretty quick because I think they'll get a lot of drop-outs if there is a gap with nothing available.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 20 January 2014, 09:01:39
Now that first myth explains a difference of perception between the British shock at the extent of the bloodshed, and the American "this is bad but not the worst" reaction.  Our Civil War was still in living memory, and everyone in power had powerful memories of their grandparents telling them about the experience.  And the US Civil War did indeed kill 2% of our population in 4 years; over 620,000 died from a population of 31 million.  And seeing your own die always feels worse than seeing it in others, the shock goes deeper.

Why do we humans allow wars to grow to that depth of atrocity?
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Kathy on 20 January 2014, 10:22:47
Hi all -

Back from New York - Acela up; regular coach back.  Very nice trip - great food, nice hotel in the theater district and well, I'm not sure I like the play, No Man's Land, but Sirs Ian and Patrick were wonderful.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Helen J on 20 January 2014, 12:17:05
Hi Kathy, good to see you back.  I'm glad you enjoyed nearly all of it ....  ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Hanibal94 on 20 January 2014, 12:47:43
I am glad that Firefox is stable, although they never did fix the bug in the auto-complete feature that crept in several months ago. If I inadvertently delete one of the items in the list it is tricky to get it back. I usually forget how to restore it and have to rediscover the trick each time. My own mental auto-completion is faulty too.  ;D

Well!!!
How do you do it?

When the dropdown list opens, place the cursor over the item you want to remove and hit the delete button (not the backspace one) on your keyboard.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Craig on 20 January 2014, 13:08:58
That's how to delete, which I sometimes do by accident. But when I try re-enter what I deleted, it doesn't always work. For example, if I delete 4 AM and I re-enter it, all I will see is 4 PM. To get 4 AM back I have to delete 4 PM too. I can't remember if that's good enough or if I have to enter something else that begins with 4. This may be fixed by now. I haven't had the problem lately.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Hanibal94 on 20 January 2014, 13:14:57
Oh, sorry - my Aspergers brain misunderstood what Stuart wanted to know.
I don't know how the reentering works because I use Google Chrome, which does not have that feature.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Caro on 20 January 2014, 14:45:37
Nice to see that Rosetta phoned home:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-25814454
 :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 20 January 2014, 17:47:10
...and this was the next article on the page index.  Also interesting.
Cosmic 'web' seen for first time (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-25809967)

Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Caro on 21 January 2014, 02:50:12
FOG.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Randi on 21 January 2014, 02:53:03
After many days of rain, we now have frost.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: camiller on 21 January 2014, 15:21:45
Snow tonight followed by single digits.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Hanibal94 on 21 January 2014, 15:23:47
Light snowfall for the next few days with temperatures between 0 and - 3 C.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Craig on 21 January 2014, 15:33:17
Really cold here for as long as the forecast can see. This is good for killing nasty things migrating north from the U.S.  (Janet, Kathy, Carolyn, Dean, and any other OW'er are always welcome though  ;D)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Dean on 21 January 2014, 15:34:02
WHEW!!! ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: camiller on 21 January 2014, 15:39:52
 Thanks, Craig!  ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 21 January 2014, 17:21:37
Definitely cold, single digits F today, below zero tonight.  Everyone around me and especially Canadians northward, keep warm.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: JamesAPrattIII on 21 January 2014, 18:18:07
A few years ago there was an article in a magazine that deals with the American civil war some people who looked over the census figures now estimate the death toll may have been in the 750,000 to 850,000 range. They point out that men that who came up with the figure of 620,000 based these figures on the believe that the number of Confederate deaths do to disease and in hospitals which they didn't have much in the way of records for would be about the same as for the Union. In reality they were much higher. Also they neglected the men who were wounded and discharged who die of the effects of their wounds weeks, months or years later. Then there are the civilian casualties of the war which they also neglect. I hope this is of some interest.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Kathy on 21 January 2014, 18:23:51
Thanks, I think that is a wee bit too much for my old bones  ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 21 January 2014, 18:57:57
I'm not surprised.  At the time of WW1, many of our elders would have still been very war-weary.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Caro on 22 January 2014, 03:27:14
Morning all.
I have been busy/wasting time looking at this: http://www.theguardian.com/world/ng-interactive/2014/aviation-100-years
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 22 January 2014, 09:30:28
Cool.  I need to watch it this evening, I'm out-and-about today.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Kathy on 22 January 2014, 09:54:34
Thanks, James, for the info.  I had family on both sides of that particular tragedy, but they all survived.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 22 January 2014, 12:05:31
I saw a fascinating PBS American Masters film last night on J.D. Salinger.  Among a whole lot of interesting stuff, it says that he kept writing after he stopped publishing, and before his death he created a "Library Trust" now responsible for all his copyrights and for publishing the new material.  It is alleged to come to them market beginning in 2015.  Very tantalizing.  :)

http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/2013/08/26/215734035/new-salinger-books-will-arrive-in-2015-authors-say
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Hanibal94 on 22 January 2014, 13:07:23
Thanks, James, for the info.  I had family on both sides of that particular tragedy, but they all survived.

Thanks indeed, James. An ancestor of mine was wounded in that war fighting for the North, but he survived.
Also, one of my great - grandfathers fought in WW1. He lost a finger and was injured by mustard gas, but survived and came back home, although his injuries affected him for the rest of his life.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 22 January 2014, 14:40:34
Morning all.
I have been busy/wasting time looking at this: http://www.theguardian.com/world/ng-interactive/2014/aviation-100-years
Caro
See also http://www.flightradar24.com/51.15,-0.19/8
Stuart
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Caro on 22 January 2014, 14:45:50
Ha ha. Thanks Stuart.  :) I could probably see a few of those from my kitchen window.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 22 January 2014, 20:22:41
Now this is an example of not considering the consequences of actions, or Darwinian forces in action.

http://www.alabamanewsday.com/national/28179-homeowner-burns-down-house-after-deciding-to-clear-prank-toilet-paper-by-setting-it-on-fire.html?print
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Dean on 22 January 2014, 22:20:12
Morning all.
I have been busy/wasting time looking at this: http://www.theguardian.com/world/ng-interactive/2014/aviation-100-years
Caro
See also http://www.flightradar24.com/51.15,-0.19/8
Stuart


I'll add this one:   http://www.liveatc.net/

Pick your airport and listen in to the tower as they handle planes.  Sometimes 'silence' between planes is long depending on airport.  ;D


Or choose:  http://flightaware.com/

Pick a flight and you can follow it where ever it goes. I use this to track family when they fly from place to place. ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: propriome on 23 January 2014, 03:55:05
Now this is an example of not considering the consequences of actions, or Darwinian forces in action.

http://www.alabamanewsday.com/national/28179-homeowner-burns-down-house-after-deciding-to-clear-prank-toilet-paper-by-setting-it-on-fire.html?print

:o :o :o How can anyone think it's a good idea to do such a thoughtless thing? :o :o :o
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Randi on 23 January 2014, 04:53:28
(http://www.desismileys.com/smileys/desismileys_1822.gif)

It could have destroyed someone else's house or garden too!
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Kathy on 23 January 2014, 09:39:13
I'm going to be looking up this weekend!

http://www.slate.com/blogs/bad_astronomy/2014/01/22/kaboom_nearby_galaxy_m82_hosts_a_new_supernova.html
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: studentforever on 23 January 2014, 10:28:46
If I look at the weather forecast what I will see is clouds!!
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Caro on 23 January 2014, 10:50:59
Yup. Telescope at the ready though, just in case.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Caro on 24 January 2014, 02:52:49
Hello again.
Here is some interesting weather in Cumbria yesterday:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-25873559
(The weather in Cumbria is always interesting, of course.)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: jil on 24 January 2014, 05:51:39
Glad I wasn't out in that!
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: AvastMH on 24 January 2014, 06:13:10
Hi everyone.
I'm not sure if this is a pop-out version or not. But here's a new way for whiling away the time at the traffic lights....
https://www.youtube.com/embed/C3Ozz6_pdMI

 ;D ;D


It is a popup now.  ;)  Replace .com/watch?v= with .com/embed/   JJ
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Caro on 24 January 2014, 06:53:44
What was that word that was translated as 'damn'?  ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Kathy on 24 January 2014, 08:30:35
You can hear it in my house on occasion. German speaking hubby taught it to me  ::)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Hanibal94 on 24 January 2014, 09:19:09
I know it too, having grown up in Saxony, Germany. The translation is not 100% accurate  ;)
Apparently, the light is in a place called Hildesheim. Click here (http://streetpong.info/#home) for more info.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 24 January 2014, 11:06:11
It occasionally slipped out around my home also - side effect of me being the first generation of my family not raised in a bilingual English/German home.  Very Anglo-Saxon in origin. 8)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Kathy on 24 January 2014, 11:30:47
One could say it is positively earthy!  ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Michael on 24 January 2014, 21:48:45
I was in Hildesheim back in the 70's. From what I remember, the city looks the same. No ping pong games at the traffic lights, though.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Caro on 25 January 2014, 03:42:46
Morning all. The FOG is back. Never a dull moment.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Caro on 26 January 2014, 03:35:29
Hello again.
Happy Australia Day to Aussies everywhere.  :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 26 January 2014, 05:11:30
Thanks, cobber
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Dean on 26 January 2014, 06:54:30
Hello again.
Happy Australia Day to Aussies everywhere.  :)

Hear, Hear!!!!! ;D ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 26 January 2014, 08:18:46
Indeed, yes!!

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-t2zTtaFczMc/UuULBFymJ_I/AAAAAAAADHM/inM-aHdPVtU/w508-h340-no/Australia+Day.JPG)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: camiller on 26 January 2014, 11:20:03
Yes, Happy Australia Day!
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Randi on 26 January 2014, 11:55:02
Happy Australia Day to all! ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Kathy on 26 January 2014, 12:17:23
Have a great Australia Day!
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Randi on 26 January 2014, 14:01:18
http://books.google.fr/books?id=wvKiBiWKrzMC&pg=PA311&lpg=PA311&dq=%22steer+board%22+%22load+board%22&source=bl&ots=sk07Ou12Ru&sig=HkhGOJOhkiPkKmpE7vllzAZtEwI&hl=en&sa=X&ei=alzlUszJPOWd0QW5-IGYCg&ved=0CC8Q6AEwAQ#v=onepage&q=%22steer%20board%22%20%22load%20board%22&f=false
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Helen J on 26 January 2014, 14:36:22
Thanks Randi - today's new fact learnt!
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Caro on 27 January 2014, 12:40:09
Twitter:

‏@the_zooniverse

If you're a Zooniverse user from the CHICAGO AREA & keen to talk to a journalist about your experiences, please email team@zooniverse.org :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Michael on 27 January 2014, 13:34:02
An interesting weather note: At Burwash, Yukon, at 2200 UTC on January 24 the temperature reached 16.1 C. It was only 11C in Orlando Florida at that time. The highest January temperature recorded in January in Burwash was only 7.5 C. The previous record for the 24th was just 4.6 C. The weather observer at Burwash said the snow is disappearing fast and several communities in the Yukon have lost their snow. Almost makes you want to move north of 60.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Craig on 27 January 2014, 14:46:05
I think all the cold air must have been sent down south! The latest analysis is that the recent extreme cold in the US was caused by a "lazy" jet stream and not a "polar vortex". That doesn't make it any less cold, though.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 27 January 2014, 15:35:29
You are right about it not being a polar vortex - beyond one slip-of-the-tongue last Friday, all the weather reporters are calling it a front.  And it is not as cold and windy, either.

Be that as it may, it is -2F (-19C) air temp and -30F (-35C) wind chill outside at 2pm and is probably representing the day's high temp.  Beautiful blue sunny sky or not, retirement means I never need to stick my nose outside into that wind.  I'm glad our normal "warm" didn't just evaporate and is giving comfort to someone else.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: camiller on 27 January 2014, 16:47:18
I just learned that my son will have a snow day tomorrow - in New Orleans!  (It will actually be a 'wintry mix' event.)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Randi on 27 January 2014, 17:21:36
We have someone looking for interviewees!

Quote
...
I produce a series of feature stories on citizen science projects for WHYY-FM in Philadelphia.  I'd like to do one on Old Weather.  I'd like to speak with someone from NOAA and also a volunteer from either the Philadelphia area, southern New Jersey or Delaware.
...
Thanks,
Kimberly Haas


If you are interested, please send a PM to kimberlyhaas (and please copy the mods so that we can keep track of the responses).
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Michael on 27 January 2014, 18:56:16
Further to Burwash. The maximum temperature for the day was 16.5 C (61.7 F) This is the highest temperature reached anywhere in the Yukon in January in the climate record. The previous record was set in Haines Junction with 12.2 C on 10 Jan 1947 (though they recorded 12.5 on Jan 23 at 06:00). I have attached a photo from the weather observer in Burwash; this is a sight seldom seen in the Yukon in January... Be amazed.


Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 27 January 2014, 19:27:55
Be frightened more accurately describes how I feel about that.  That has to be throwing all kinds of wildlife internal calendars off schedule, even tho it is very pretty.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Caro on 28 January 2014, 02:36:21
Morning all.
Strange days in the Yukon, indeed.
Shipwrecks uncovered by the winter storms in Wales: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-25917404
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 28 January 2014, 03:47:20
I woke up middle of the night, insomniac that I am, only to find this news waiting.  What a long and wonderful life this was, I want to celebrate him rather than mourn.

Folk legend, activist Pete Seeger dead at 94 (http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/chi-pete-seeger-dead-20140127,0,4347087.story)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Craig on 28 January 2014, 06:02:22
Yes, I remember trying to learn to play the banjo with his music.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Craig on 28 January 2014, 06:38:59
Just curious about what happens when two "third" transcribers are leapfrogging? Say I get a page then will the other transcriber get the following page, even if I haven't finished mine? Then if I don't save mine will nobody get it?
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Randi on 28 January 2014, 07:13:19
It is not counted till you save it. That way, they can be sure to have at least three transcriptions. Philip has said that additional transcriptions are saved.
szukacz and I were third transcriber on Avoca and occasionally we got the same page when we were working at the same time.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: camiller on 28 January 2014, 15:59:21
Yes, so sad. 

Folk legend, activist Pete Seeger dead at 94 (http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/chi-pete-seeger-dead-20140127,0,4347087.story)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: philip.brohan on 28 January 2014, 16:46:04
Yes, so sad. 

Folk legend, activist Pete Seeger dead at 94 (http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/chi-pete-seeger-dead-20140127,0,4347087.story)

I think one of my primary school teachers must have been a big fan, because singing 'If I had a hammer' in school assembly is almost my earliest memory. And 'Little Boxes' has also been burned into my brain (http://blog.oldweather.org/2012/09/05/theres-a-green-one-and-a-pink-one-and-a-blue-one-and-a-yellow-one/) since well before I understood what it meant.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 28 January 2014, 18:02:36
I always thought that title was attractive poetry, I recognized but didn't remember the source.  He's been background music for my whole life.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Helen J on 29 January 2014, 11:32:30
There's a programme on Radio 4 this evening at 9pm which some of you might be interested in - called Frozen in Mawson's Footsteps, it's about life on board the Russian ship which was recently trapped in the ice in the Antarctic.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 29 January 2014, 15:25:30
About the ice that caused the problem.
 3mtr+ multiyear ice (http://<iframe width="400" height="500" frameborder="0" src="http://www.bbc.co.uk/emp/embed/smpEmbed.html?playlist=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.bbc.co.uk%2Fiplayer%2Fplaylist%2Fp01qvj5q&title=Frozen%20in%20Mawson's%20Footsteps%3A%20%E2%80%98It%E2%80%99s%20the%20deepest%20sea%20ice%20I%E2%80%99ve%20ever%20seen%E2%80%99&product=iplayer"></iframe>)

Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 29 January 2014, 15:46:47
Xin Nian Kuai Le, 新年快乐 for when it comes round to your area.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Michael on 29 January 2014, 20:09:53
Sorry, have to stop working on OW. I just heard that Justin Bieber is in jail again. Gotta go and protest, and organize and write petitions etc etc...  ;D

OK, fine, if you insist, I'll do some more ships instead...
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 29 January 2014, 20:22:47
Sounds more profitable, that young man needs to start listening to his sane adult mentors.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Caro on 30 January 2014, 02:46:00
Hello OW. Happy year of the horse!
http://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/gallery/2014/jan/29/chinas-year-of-the-horse-in-pictures

(http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/pictures/2014/1/29/1390998331332/8db93a73-8a80-41e8-9169-2a56553c1032-620x408.jpeg)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 30 January 2014, 03:18:59
Not just any horse - in the full 60-year cycle, this is the year of the Male Wood (Green) Horse.  (Green is the color representing wood.)  http://www.chinesefortunecalendar.com/NewYearDays.htm

(http://cache.desktopnexus.com/thumbnails/1624490-bigthumbnail.jpg)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Caro on 30 January 2014, 03:51:18
Love these swimming creatures too, especially the piggy: http://www.theguardian.com/world/gallery/2014/jan/30/animals-take-a-swim-in-pictures
 :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: szukacz on 30 January 2014, 04:11:14
amazing pictures, and the summer!
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Caro on 30 January 2014, 04:21:35
Hi szukacz. Summer seems a long way off in this part of the world.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Dean on 30 January 2014, 08:07:34
Sunny and a forecast high of 20?F (-6?C)

A veritable heat wave as of late!!  :P
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Hanibal94 on 30 January 2014, 10:57:50
Sounds more profitable, that young man needs to start listening to his sane adult mentors.

I am not surprised. Child stars often go crazy when they grow up. (http://www.businessinsider.com/mara-wilsons-reasons-child-stars-go-crazy-2013-5)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Caro on 30 January 2014, 12:01:53
Surprise, surprise.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-25944823
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: camiller on 30 January 2014, 12:58:03
Sunny and a forecast high of 20?F (-6?C)

A veritable heat wave as of late!!  :P

 ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Kathy on 30 January 2014, 13:18:27
We are sunbathing here - it is 30 deg F
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 30 January 2014, 13:19:38
They said a high of 31F here, dropping again in the afternoon as snow arrives from the NW.  I'll take whatever warmth I can get.  :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Randi on 30 January 2014, 13:59:28
The
Old Weather
BOINC team
has just passed the

20,000,000 mark!


(http://boincstats.com/signature/-1/team/54739893/sig.png)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: camiller on 30 January 2014, 14:01:37
 ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Caro on 30 January 2014, 15:57:28
Go team!  ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 31 January 2014, 00:20:12
39C on my varanda.
Guess where I am not.
 ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 31 January 2014, 00:24:15
Really bad extremes, both (all!) sides of the globe.  The earth is off balance.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Randi on 31 January 2014, 02:13:42
Snowing here in southern France :o
(yesterday was rain)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Caro on 31 January 2014, 02:35:49
Hello all. It's raining here. :o No kidding.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: propriome on 31 January 2014, 03:07:57
Continuous rain from yesterday and flood alerts here (hope i manage to return home easily this evening :-\)...
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Caro on 31 January 2014, 04:13:06
Sounds familiar. Hope you get home without trouble, Matteo.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 31 January 2014, 06:17:18
Same here - travel safe around any flooding, Matteo.  Light snow here right now, with heavier snow expected later - temps are in the positive double digits which is definite improvement.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: AvastMH on 31 January 2014, 06:20:31
Gong xhi fat choi everyone!  Happy Year of the Horse! ;D ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Steeleye on 31 January 2014, 06:53:26
Gong xhi fat choi everyone!  Happy Year of the Horse! ;D ;D

I learnt it from my father as 'Kung hee fat choi', Joan. (It is still used as the family toast.)  Mind you, that was almost 50 years ago.  My version was probably superceded at about the same time that 'Peking' became 'Beijing'.

 ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: AvastMH on 31 January 2014, 06:58:30
Tomorrow morning it is highly likely that the Radcilffe Observatory in Oxford will announce the wettest January on record (since 1815). Ian Ashpole (one of our students) will turn up as usual to do the measurement at 9.00am precisely. We only need about 2mm of rain today to make the record. The local paper (Oxford Mail) will probably be down there to take pictures. I'll get along if I can! :D
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: AvastMH on 31 January 2014, 07:03:34
Gong xhi fat choi everyone!  Happy Year of the Horse! ;D ;D

I learnt it from my father as 'Kung hee fat choi', Joan. (It is still used as the family toast.)  Mind you, that was almost 50 years ago.  My version was probably superceded at about the same time that 'Peking' became 'Beijing'.

 ;)
That's interesting Steeleye - I heard it pronounced like that the other day on the TV.   My version comes from Singapore (I think I have it right), perhaps that makes the difference in truth?? Singapore is a long way from Beijing!  :o ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Steeleye on 31 January 2014, 07:07:32
... And my father picked it up in Malaya, circa 1964.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Steeleye on 31 January 2014, 07:14:29
Tomorrow morning it is highly likely that the Radcilffe Observatory in Oxford will announce the wettest January on record (since 1815). Ian Ashpole (one of our students) will turn up as usual to do the measurement at 9.00am precisely. We only need about 2mm of rain today to make the record. The local paper (Oxford Mail) will probably be down there to take pictures. I'll get along if I can! :D

Anything that you can send down this way would be most appreciated.  Our average January rainfall is 58.3mm. With 40 minutes left to go in this January, we have scraped together a whole 4.8mm so far.  The grass is looking pretty bleached.

 :-\
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Helen J on 31 January 2014, 09:18:51
You would be very very welcome to some of it - once again it's pouring down.  It's not just the rain, but the endless grey days - very bad for the spirits.

Joan - can you get yourself an OW banner and inveigle yourself into any picture for the papers, advertising the project? 
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Randi on 31 January 2014, 09:58:37
Snow is all gone :(

(but probably just as well)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: asterix135 on 31 January 2014, 10:17:49
Gong xhi fat choi everyone!  Happy Year of the Horse! ;D ;D

This is an interesting podcast on the history of Chinese New Year

And this guy has it as gong xi fa cai - Happy Year of the Yang Wood Horse

https://soundcloud.com/the-history-of-china/episode-10-gong-xi-fa-cai
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 31 January 2014, 10:34:03
Not just any horse - in the full 60-year cycle, this is the year of the Male (Yang) Wood (Green) Horse.  (Green is the color representing wood.) 

(http://cache.desktopnexus.com/thumbnails/1624490-bigthumbnail.jpg)

They have a very interesting calendar, there are exactly 60 different animals.  And while normal life is tied to the lunar year which starts today, the years of the animals are tied to the solar calendar; the year of the horse begins February 4th.

Quote
http://www.chinesefortunecalendar.com/NewYearDays.htm
The first day of the animal year is different from the Chinese New Year Day. The animal year starts on the first day of the Tiger month. Tiger month begins from the day when Sun enters ecliptic 315 degree position, which is around February 4 Gregorian calendar. That means the animal month is solar month, not lunar month. This is why many people who born in January or February confuse about their animal sign of birth year. To verify the exact animal sign of birth year goes to use the free online Chinese Astrological Animal Sign (http://www.chinesefortunecalendar.com/YourSign.htm) page.

I attach the results for my birth date.  I have no idea what it means or foretells.  :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Hanibal94 on 31 January 2014, 10:54:06
Here's the one for my birth date. I don't understand it, but I do like the idea of being a "Metal Horse".  :D
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Helen J on 31 January 2014, 11:53:57
And here's mine: as you can see I've failed to copy it as beautifully as you two did!  I quite like the idea of being born in the year of Green Sheep.

The following is your simple birth chart. You are Black Snake, born in the year of Green Sheep. The first character in DAY represents you. We can say you are a Water Snake, too.
Day (you)   Month   Year
  Female Water
  Female Metal
  Female Wood

  Black Snake
  White Snake
  Green Sheep

Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Thursday Next on 31 January 2014, 12:42:10
Hmmm - I knew I had been born in the year of the Metal Tiger, but it seems I am a Fire Chicken  ??? - not quite sure what to make of that!
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Helen J on 31 January 2014, 12:48:54
Potentially very tasty!  Depends on what has been added to the chicken before the fire was applied though ....  Certainly more edible than a Metal Tiger.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: propriome on 31 January 2014, 13:19:58
 ;D ;D

Uhm... it seems i'm a Green Chicken instead, born in the year of Green Rabbit.

So, here I am, in a young picture:
(http://www.peacefleece.com/images/Green_chicken.jpg)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Michael on 31 January 2014, 13:36:44
I think I win!!! (It seems either I have a drink named after me, or I'm named after a drink.) I'm a Brown Cow.  :D I've included the recipe...

2 msr Kahlua? coffee liqueur
milk
nutmeg

In a champagne flute with ice, add kahlua and top with milk. Stir. Garnish stirrer with nutmeg.

Not quite the same as The Dude's White Russian, but close...  (for fans of The Big Lebowski).

Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Helen J on 31 January 2014, 13:45:05
Mmmmm - sounds rather good, though I'm not sure it will go with the fiery chicken.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Hanibal94 on 31 January 2014, 15:24:36
Hmmm - I knew I had been born in the year of the Metal Tiger, but it seems I am a Fire Chicken  ??? - not quite sure what to make of that!

(http://fc05.deviantart.net/fs71/i/2010/334/f/1/fire_chicken_by_flipflopninja-d33xpnw.jpg)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 31 January 2014, 15:40:09
It's amazing how you can pick something that fits out of any astrology chart.
Here is mine.
http://www.famousbirthdays.com/zodiac/1948.html (http://www.famousbirthdays.com/zodiac/1948.html)

(Nice pic hanibal)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 31 January 2014, 16:27:25
I've always considered astrology fun, but see how they expect everyone born in a certain period to be identical in personality and circumstances... I just can't see it.  The images can indeed be fun.  I'm Fire Cow?

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-hGFIzaTgxMI/UuwWemTfsvI/AAAAAAAADLc/VlQIMbiTkec/w671-h503-no/Janet+Jaguar%2527s+Chinese+astrology+Fire+Cow.jpg)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Michael on 31 January 2014, 20:42:44
A brown cow celebrating the Chinese New Year with a brown cow while entering weather data taken on the Min River just  downstream from Foochow, China, 10 Dec 1895. (I think that work on a holiday means double pay.) Just so's ya know...  :-[

Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 31 January 2014, 20:45:21
Tripling your sign has to bring you triple the luck and prosperity this year.  :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: jil on 01 February 2014, 01:22:46
How now brown cow?

I'm a brown snake. Suddenly I'm feeling very slithery - ssssss.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Caro on 01 February 2014, 04:12:50
Morning all.

Temporary appearance by big shiny thing in the sky!

Not quite the same as The Dude's White Russian, but close...  (for fans of The Big Lebowski).

I can't quite imagine the Dude drinking his White Russian from a champagne glass.  :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Thursday Next on 01 February 2014, 13:15:12
Hmmm - I knew I had been born in the year of the Metal Tiger, but it seems I am a Fire Chicken  ??? - not quite sure what to make of that!

(http://fc05.deviantart.net/fs71/i/2010/334/f/1/fire_chicken_by_flipflopninja-d33xpnw.jpg)

Slightly disturbing image there - presumably it lays fried eggs!?
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Randi on 01 February 2014, 13:30:45
 ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 01 February 2014, 15:04:45
Quote
Slightly disturbing image there - presumably it lays fried eggs!?

Depends if you are male or female, I suppose.  :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 02 February 2014, 01:34:53
I here there is a big game coming up in the USA.
As we are ahead of the USA I will let you know who wins so you can bet on them.   ;D
Go the winners.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 02 February 2014, 01:36:33
You found a TARDIS and are holding out on the rest of us? :o ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Hanibal94 on 02 February 2014, 06:12:13
Good morning OW.

Here (http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=hUj65M4T1cg) and here (https://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=iDkrSD8fOBo) are two videos showing the many awesome things humans are capable of.
Just don't try any of this at home - unless you have the right equipment and are properly trained, of course.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Dean on 02 February 2014, 11:35:01
I here there is a big game coming up in the USA.
As we are ahead of the USA I will let you know who wins so you can bet on them.   ;D
Go the winners.

There's a game?????!!!!!!!! :o

Must be a sailboat race somewhere.  ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Dean on 02 February 2014, 11:35:46
Good morning OW.

Here (http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=hUj65M4T1cg) and here (https://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=iDkrSD8fOBo) are two videos showing the many awesome things humans are capable of.
Just don't try any of this at home - unless you have the right equipment and are properly trained, of course.

WOW!!  Very neat!!!!!!!

DEFINITELY do not try this at home!!   8)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Craig on 02 February 2014, 13:09:39
Those guys may end up getting the Darwin award (given to people who die prematurely doing crazy things).
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Helen J on 02 February 2014, 15:26:43
Talking about crazy things - I found this amazing photo of a lifeboat out in 30 ft waves to rescue a fishing boat.

Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Thursday Next on 02 February 2014, 15:37:45
The fishing boat didn't look too healthy either!
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 02 February 2014, 17:40:38
The Australian Government are giving new lifeboats to "Illegal boat Immigrants" whose boats are not suitable to go back to Indonesia and getting the Navy to drop them back "just outside the Indonesian waters" (except they don't seem to know where that is as they have infringed it  a few times.)
%^(
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Caro on 03 February 2014, 01:44:12
Happy birthday Matteo. Auguri!  :)

And well done Seattle Seahawks. You have made DJ a happy man.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: AvastMH on 03 February 2014, 02:54:46
oh! a birthday!
MATTEO:
happy birthday to youooo
happy birthday to youooooo
happy biiiiirrthday dear Matteoooooooooooo
happy birthday to youooooooo

Have a lovely day
Best wishes,
Joan
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Randi on 03 February 2014, 02:57:26
Happy Birthday Matteo !
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: propriome on 03 February 2014, 03:56:16
:D :D Thank you very much everyone! :D :D
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: lollia paolina on 03 February 2014, 04:02:22
Buon Compleanno, Matteo!!

:) :) :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Hanibal94 on 03 February 2014, 04:34:48
Happy Birthday indeed, Matteo!

Here's a present for you: A guided tour of the International Space Station. (http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=doN4t5NKW-k)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: jil on 03 February 2014, 04:47:22
Have a great day, Matteo!
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 03 February 2014, 04:53:58
Happy Birthday, Matteo
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Craig on 03 February 2014, 06:32:32
I wish you a day of good handwriting and short remarks, Matteo. Happy birthday.  ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Randi on 03 February 2014, 06:34:51
And, ink for your log keeper ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Craig on 03 February 2014, 07:14:31
Yes, and I should have wished Matteo interesting remarks, not short ones.  ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: propriome on 03 February 2014, 08:29:14
Thank you again everybody :)

And, ink for your log keeper ;)
Yes, and I should have wished Matteo interesting remarks, not short ones.  ;D
Hope both wishes becomes true (short and interesting would be the most appreciated ones) ;D

Just (a little less than) one month to do, then I'll finally be able to read something new (the Pacific and all the WWI period).
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Michael on 03 February 2014, 10:57:24
Happy Birthday from the west coast, Matteo.

Michael
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Dean on 03 February 2014, 12:20:32
Matteo
   Happy Birthday to you,
   Happy Birthday to you,
   Happy Birthday dear Maaaaattttttttttteeeeeeeeoooooooooooooooooooooo,
   Happy Birthday to you!

Hope it's a happy one and that you get lots of neat presents!

Hope also you get to share with family!   ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: asterix135 on 03 February 2014, 12:25:03
If you're not in Canada you probably can't see this, but today's Google doodle is celebrating Canada's coldest day ever: -63C in Snag Yukon

(https://www.google.ca/logos/doodles/2014/anniversary-of-the-coldest-temperature-ever-recorded-in-canada-5737634865348608.2-hp.png)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Helen J on 03 February 2014, 12:54:24
I love the cat, in a classic feline position, somewhere warm and comfortable!
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Michael on 03 February 2014, 12:55:05
Coldest day, not just in Canada, but in North America. (Officially)

1947 02 01  -57.2 deg C
1947 02 02  -62.2 deg C
1947 02 03  -62.8 deg C   (-81 deg F)
1947 02 04  -58.3 deg C
1947 02 05  -57.8 deg C

The police post in Pelly, Yukon, recorded a low of -86F on Christmas Eve, 1917, but it was never properly verified, so it doesn't count as a record.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Craig on 03 February 2014, 13:28:05
One can imagine why it wasn't properly verified. The thermometers probably froze  ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 03 February 2014, 13:56:49
I am SO  glad I live south of the border.  Chicago's record of -27 F (-33 C) in 1983 is more than cold enuf for me.  I don't even want to move away from the nicely moderated temps of the Great Lakes - the high plains also get very extreme in winter.  We did get below zero again this morning and expect it again later this week after tomorrow's snow comes thru.  But it's supposed to stay in the single digits.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Michael on 03 February 2014, 18:35:20
The reading at Snag was verified because the observer was clever enough to make a mark on the thermometer with a nail file when the temperature reached its lowest value. (This was off the scale.) The thermometer was taken to the National Research Council cold lab in Ottawa (?), where the temperature was lowered until the thermometer showed the value marked. The lab was then able to give the exact value of the reading. It was said by the people in Mayo, Yukon, that they recorded a temperature even lower than that in Snag. However, no-one thought to mark the thermometer, so it couldn't be verified. Mayo claims to be both the coldest and hottest community in the Yukon; they can say this because the airport at Snag no longer exists. It was one of the airports built in WW II, along the Alaska Highway, to maintain an air link to Alaska.

No one knows, to the best of my knowledge, anything about those particular thermometers used in the early 1900s by the police or how they were sited, whether they were properly screened etc etc so that -86F temperature at Pelly, and the -79F at Whitehorse on Christmas Eve 1917 will always be unofficial.

 Currently it is -11C at Burwash, the nearest site to Snag, and -24C  at Mayo.

Minimum Temperatures at Mayo:

1947 02 01      M
1947 02 02      M
1947 02 03  -62.2 deg C
1947 02 04      M
1947 02 05      M
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Helen J on 04 February 2014, 07:28:30
The weather in central/northern Europe looks very bad - how are our members in that part of the world?  I hope you're all warm and safe inside, and not needing to travel.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: camiller on 04 February 2014, 08:48:28
No negative temps here in southeastern upstate NY, although about 11 inches of snow are predicted for tomorrow!  Stay warm, everyone!
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: AvastMH on 04 February 2014, 09:42:09
http://www.geog.ox.ac.uk/news/articles/140203-wettest-january.html

I wasn't too well on Saturday morning so did not manage to get along to the great 'wettest January on record' reading here in the UK.  Ironically the weather on Saturday morning was gorgeously sunny.

Joan
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Randi on 04 February 2014, 10:20:58
Hope you are doing better! :-*
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Michael on 04 February 2014, 10:31:03
Sunny and -3C in Victoria, BC right now, 7:00 a.m. The forecast has the 'S' word for the weekend  :-[
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Randi on 04 February 2014, 10:41:13
 :o

 ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Craig on 04 February 2014, 11:25:14
My cousin in Ladysmith said he had about 4 inches of snow the other day, just as the spring bulbs were appearing. We won't see those for a couple of months yet.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Dean on 04 February 2014, 12:20:26
Sunny and 22?F (-6?C) at noon in Niagara Falls - western New York State. ;D

Temperatures are expected to remain around there but we are forecast for 4 - 8" (10 - 20cm.) for the over night period!  Could be 'interesting!!'

Stay warm, dry, and well everybody!!!
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 04 February 2014, 12:23:07
We are getting the 'S' word in Chicago this afternoon thru tomorrow morning.  With any luck the city will be on the northern edge of the storm and those of us north of the city won't get more than 3" to 5" (7-12cm).  I'm getting errands and shopping done, as there is frigid cold coming in on the storms heals and right now we have an overcast 20+ F temp  that is quite pleasant.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Caro on 04 February 2014, 12:59:11
Speaking from the positively balmy heights of 6C ....  :o
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Hanibal94 on 04 February 2014, 14:01:56
All fine here in Saxony. Temperatures range from 3 to 8 C during the day (down to -2 at night).
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Caro on 05 February 2014, 03:59:32
Morning all.
Hope those of you in the SW and Wales have better weather:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-26042990
This is wild weather.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Randi on 05 February 2014, 04:01:50
It's Raining here :P
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: studentforever on 05 February 2014, 05:01:33
More bad weather in SW England.  Dull Scotland seems positively desirable at the moment.

Hope all OWers down there are safe
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 05 February 2014, 05:09:17
Everyone everywhere, do your best to stay warm, dry and most of all safe.  The snow falling in Chicago right now tonight will bring this season's total to double the normal full season's average.  And we still have all the snow that will fall in the rest of February and March.  I hear England set an all time record for January rain.  This is not good.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: studentforever on 05 February 2014, 06:36:16
It's strange. The southern half of England had a lot more rain, in the northern half it was less significant and in the north west of Scotland they had less rain than usual.  Where I live it was a bit wetter but within normal variation - just lots of dull days.

The areas suffering the most have tidal rivers through a drainage basin so they've had water coming down the rivers from the hills and a tidal surge from the sea meeting on the low lying plain and overtopping every flood defence.

The south coast has had storm damage - sea walls breached, shingle banks washed away, sand dunes dispersed etc.  Britain doesn't normally get such extremes so we are dumbfounded - warning sirens which haven't sounded for 30 years going off twice in a month!
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Randi on 05 February 2014, 07:49:14
Quote from: http://www.thefreedictionary.com/ Quotation of the Day
He who blinded by ambition, raises himself to a position whence he cannot mount higher, must thereafter fall with the greatest loss.

I rather like this - I was surprised to discover the source.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Helen J on 05 February 2014, 12:23:10
Latest English weather disaster - part of a railway line washed away, cutting off a large part of the southwest part of England from the rest of the country.  And people being evacuated from Somerset villages as it's impossible to prevent them being badly flooded.  Certainly makes our transcribing work seem even more crucial ....
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Thursday Next on 05 February 2014, 14:07:40
Latest English weather disaster - part of a railway line washed away, cutting off a large part of the southwest part of England from the rest of the country.  And people being evacuated from Somerset villages as it's impossible to prevent them being badly flooded.  Certainly makes our transcribing work seem even more crucial ....

This railway line is just beyond Exeter, where I live, and is very scenic, as it follows the estuary of the Exe, the coastline at Dawlish and then the estuary of the Teign.  Technically the railway line itself is still there - the sea wall and the ballast underneath it has all been washed away though so the line is just hanging there, swinging in the gale force winds.  They think it may very well wash away with tonight's high tide though.  They reckon 4 to 6 weeks to get the line open again.  One of our local MPs is saying the line should be rebuilt further inland - he may have a point, but I don't see the land acquisition and planning processes for that project running very smoothly!

I don't know if the video in this link will work outside the UK, but there are some very dramatic pictures of the damage here: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-26042990
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Craig on 05 February 2014, 15:39:41
Quote from: http://www.thefreedictionary.com/ Quotation of the Day
He who blinded by ambition, raises himself to a position whence he cannot mount higher, must thereafter fall with the greatest loss.

I rather like this - I was surprised to discover the source.

I think he learned the hard way.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Caro on 06 February 2014, 08:34:44
(http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/pictures/2014/2/6/1391690358617/a16d4ff6-31f6-41dc-91dc-f003e511625d-460x276.jpeg)

A giant wave totally engulfs a coastal pub at Chesil Beach in Dorset. Photograph: Paul McEvily/knsnews.co.uk

UK weather.  :o
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 06 February 2014, 09:08:03
Totally frightening. 
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Michael on 06 February 2014, 10:07:01
Good news for those in Australia, sort of.

 Where have Australia's tropical cyclones gone? (http://environmentalresearchweb.org/cws/article/news/56086)

Maybe all those people who left Dorset in the 1800s for Australia were on to something...
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 06 February 2014, 10:35:44
It sounds like they went 'round the globe the long way and are now battering southern England. :(
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Kathy on 06 February 2014, 12:45:33
Is the building still standing?  :o
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Michael on 06 February 2014, 14:16:53
Some pictures, from Russia, I got from a friend. I have no idea where or when these were taken, but it puts a foot of snow into perspective.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 06 February 2014, 14:33:00
Those modern apartment buildings should never have flat roofs in that climate - very steeply slanted would have saved them a lot of work shoveling in order to prevent the roof from collapsing.

Thank you - I've been feeling very done-to this winter, having been spoiled by a decade of mostly moderately warm seasons.  Even being 3rd snowiest winter in history is suddenly very easy to cope with. ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Michael on 06 February 2014, 14:37:56
Glad I could help.  :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: camiller on 06 February 2014, 14:53:12
 :o
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: asterix135 on 06 February 2014, 15:01:34
Or check out this highway in Japan: Yuki-no-Otani Snow Canyon

(http://icons.wxug.com/hurricane/chrisburt/japansnow.jpg)

(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-ii8gjNXUps0/UZFMfHvmZuI/AAAAAAAAE1M/hOQ1yIl_uIw/s1600/Yuki-no-Otani+Snow+Canyon+road+in+Japan.jpg)

(http://www.buzzhunt.co.uk/wp-content/2010/12/snow-toyama.jpg)

(http://lh3.ggpht.com/_N-GlYZDQYno/TUMAskpt3vI/AAAAAAAAEjY/52wxtlF31K8/snow-canyon_thumb%5B1%5D.jpg?imgmax=800)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 06 February 2014, 15:08:26
Unreal.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 06 February 2014, 15:29:58
This is how they carved that on out in Japan.
http://www.youtube.com/embed/jxtCntPsOGE?      (Fixed now thanks.)

I cannot comprehend how much snow depth that is.




link coding repaired     JJ
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Randi on 06 February 2014, 15:55:14
That link doesn't work for me.

This seems to work www.youtube.com/embed/jxtCntPsOGE?feature=player_detailpage, but it may not be ideal
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Thursday Next on 06 February 2014, 16:01:43
Had to drive past Exeter's main railway station earlier today.  As well as the main line being closed to the south due to the track being virtually washed away at Dawlish yesterday, the line has been closed to the north for about three weeks now while the major works are carried out following flooding last year (due to reopen tomorrow).  As a result it doesn't seem to be a railway station at all for the moment - more of a coach station, with all the staff marshalling the rail replacement buses in the car park.  I am so glad I don't have to travel anywhere at the moment, and anyone who does has my heartfelt sympathy!
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: AvastMH on 06 February 2014, 17:13:59
Any one got a spare aqualung system, and or any connections with waterbus manufacturers? Looks like Oxford is going back under.
I am sooooo glad I don't live on the Somerset levels!
PS that Japanese snow is scarey! :o
PPS - glad to hear that somewhere is ok - lucky you Hanibal in Saxony  ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: studentforever on 06 February 2014, 17:52:38
Come up to the West of Scotland - the far northwest has had a drier than average winter.  The day length is a bit short but lengthening daily.  We haven't had any snow (yet) and not much frost.  Can't say that the amount of sun has increased but you can't have everything.

Don't think I could cope with that amount of snow and I'm not sure I could get wellies on at the moment so I too am glad not to be in Japan or Somerset.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Randi on 07 February 2014, 02:34:07
szukacz :-*

It's raining here!
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Caro on 07 February 2014, 02:37:31
Good morning szukacz, good morning all.
Enjoying the 'calm' before the next storm here. Southerly gales approaching, with some more rain.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: AvastMH on 07 February 2014, 02:46:54
And I was worried about my grass going brown in the drought... ???  :(
Sorry - got to dash - the vaporetto is just pulling into the bus stop and it's not easy to run in webbed feet...  ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Caro on 07 February 2014, 02:57:03
Meanwhile, in Cork, Ireland ....

(http://i3.irishmirror.ie/incoming/article3113064.ece/ALTERNATES/s510b/Bfq6cWjIYAEphOS-3113064.jpg)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: propriome on 07 February 2014, 04:35:01
 :o :o
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Helen J on 07 February 2014, 05:45:50
And I was worried about my grass going brown in the drought... ???  :(
Sorry - got to dash - the vaporetto is just pulling into the bus stop and it's not easy to run in webbed feet...  ;)

Love this mental picture, Joan!   :D :D :D
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Craig on 07 February 2014, 06:03:03
There are some interesting initiatives to help prevent flooding in the UK in this article

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-26042518?utm_source=Weekly+Carbon+Briefing&utm_campaign=cd6d014c53-Carbon_Brief_Weekly_18_7_137_18_2013&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_3ff5ea836a-cd6d014c53-303420325
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: asterix135 on 07 February 2014, 09:59:14
According to Gawker (for whom I have immense respect after they broke the Rob Ford crack story)

The Weather in the UK Is So Awful the Animals Are On Antidepressants (http://gawker.com/the-weather-in-the-uk-is-so-awful-the-animals-are-on-an-1517988350)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Thursday Next on 07 February 2014, 12:43:30
There are some interesting initiatives to help prevent flooding in the UK in this article

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-26042518?utm_source=Weekly+Carbon+Briefing&utm_campaign=cd6d014c53-Carbon_Brief_Weekly_18_7_137_18_2013&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_3ff5ea836a-cd6d014c53-303420325

This is only too true!  Although we did experience a drought a couple of years ago, it seems that on the whole flooding is becoming a steadily worsening problem in the UK over many years.  But this doesn't seem to have stopped building developments on land known to be prone to flooding.  And people paving over their gardens is very widespread.   :(
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Michael on 07 February 2014, 13:03:16
This morning we had our third, and probably largest, snowstorm in Victoria this winter!! I wasn't sure if I could get the car out of the driveway, so I chose to do my morning walk on foot. In some places, the drifts were at least 5 mm deep! There were times I counted up to 26 snowflakes in the air at one time between our house and the house next door. We had a bit of a warming spell when the sun came out; fortunately my fears of flooding caused by a rapid melt were unfounded. I fear we could get another 5 mm dump again tomorrow morning. Pray for us...

Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Craig on 07 February 2014, 13:21:12
We're all thinking of you, Michael  ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Dean on 07 February 2014, 14:14:30
Be safe!!  ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: camiller on 07 February 2014, 14:21:50
 ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: AvastMH on 07 February 2014, 14:54:09
 ;D ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Randi on 07 February 2014, 14:57:58
Try to get to the store and stock up before the next storm hits!!!!!!
Go early - just in case there is a mass panic ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 07 February 2014, 15:48:12
 ;D ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Caro on 08 February 2014, 04:16:12
Morning all.
Hang in there Michael. Spring must surely come.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Dean on 08 February 2014, 07:13:28
Thought I'd add this from the National Weather Service in Buffalo, New York USA  :P

10F is about minus 12C for those who don't work on the 'Frankenstein' Scale.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: camiller on 08 February 2014, 15:39:36
 :o  :(  Stay warm, Dean!
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: AvastMH on 08 February 2014, 15:42:44
yikes! - That's tooth chattering alright. Hot water bottles to the ready! :o :o
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 08 February 2014, 15:48:07
Hummph.  The NWS didn't give my an equivalent chart for January cold to compare.  They did give a comparision of sub-zero (-18 C and lower) for the whole season to date.  Doesn't give me any more comfort than your NWS gave you up there.  I think you are too tucked in between Great Lakes to get most of the cold, nor to be spared any of all that excess snow.  I guess I'll keep my cold if you promise not to send me any white stuff.

(http://www.crh.noaa.gov/images/lot/cold_snow_1314/subzero_chi.png)
Quote
THE LONG TERM AVERAGE SINCE 1872 FOR SUBZERO LOWS PER SEASON IN CHICAGO IS 7.

NOTE: BASED ON THE CURRENT FORECAST...A SUBZERO LOWS APPEARS LIKELY ON 2/11...AND SUBZERO LOWS ARE POSSIBLE ON 2/10 AND 2/12.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Helen J on 08 February 2014, 16:09:54
And here in the UK it just keeps on raining (and blowing gales).  The whole southwest of England is now cut off by rail from the rest of the country - the last remaining line has just been blocked by a landslide.  I used to live near where it's happened, and it's not the first time - but there weren't usually floods all over the place at the same time, preventing any alternative routes being used.  They're running replacement bus services, but that's going to mean some very long journeys, especially as some of the roads are closed too.  It feels as though it's never going to end .....

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-26095937
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-26096286
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 08 February 2014, 16:12:56
When that many transportation routes are blocked, you have a very major problem down there.  Take care to stay safe (and hopefully dry.)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: AvastMH on 08 February 2014, 18:04:01
At 8.08 am there were 33 road closures around Oxfordshire county. Since then we've had torrential rain, hail, sleet, lightening, and some brilliant sunshine. I've seen pictures of vast areas of water out in Witney, Eynsham and Banbury. This all has to flow out through Oxford. The footpath from work to Marston is now under kayak use. :o ::)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 08 February 2014, 18:12:44
Take care of yourself in all that, Joan.  That is getting frightening.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Michael on 08 February 2014, 19:03:23
Take care and stay dry, Joan. If you're in a kayak, make sure you're wearing a life jacket. Better to stay dry and warm at home...
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 08 February 2014, 19:11:43
If you want some cheering up then this may help.
http://www.couriermail.com.au/travel/travel-news/sea-and-a-supermodel-in-new-air-new-zealand-safety-video/story-fnjjv9zl-1226820313644 (http://www.couriermail.com.au/travel/travel-news/sea-and-a-supermodel-in-new-air-new-zealand-safety-video/story-fnjjv9zl-1226820313644)

Its only a day away from everybody.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Dean on 08 February 2014, 19:24:29
I know. It's a tough life, but somebody has to do it!   ::)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 08 February 2014, 19:29:57
More nice pics.

http://cdn0.lostateminor.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/floating-forest-650x406.jpeg
http://cdn0.lostateminor.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/0_a9aa9_6bd191c7_orig-650x430.jpg


by Rebekah Rhoden   in New Photography   on Friday 19 July 2013

This incredible 102-year-old floating forest is the result of 40 years of mangrove tree growth in Homebush Bay, Sydney. The SS Aryfield is an abandoned ship used in WWII that was left in the bay to deteriorate after the ship wrecking yard closed down. The massive ship?s rusty hull is now home to lush vegetation, including full-grown mangrove trees. What an incredible sight.



I did not know it was there till today. %^(
Something to do when next in 'Town'
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 08 February 2014, 19:39:54
That ship is proof the nature won't waste anything we make.  How lush.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Hanibal94 on 09 February 2014, 06:12:53
Nope, nature does not waste anything made by humans.
Unfortunately, the opposite is not true.

Thanks for finding that, Stuart.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: AvastMH on 09 February 2014, 16:57:34
Anyone else lose pages of work due to the ethernet creaking under the weight of the winter olympics?  Grrrrrr!! >:(
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Randi on 09 February 2014, 17:08:28
Something strange happened last night >:(
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Michael on 09 February 2014, 18:27:32
I've managed to avoid the Olympics so far... Just in case you need reminding about what's going on in the world and why we're doing this, watch this very short video. The link came from a friend; I have no idea of the scale used to set the colours..

Gloal Warming (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=gaJJtS_WDmI)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 09 February 2014, 19:28:19
Oh, yes.  Whatever the range, they are measuring the gains not the actual.  Scary.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 09 February 2014, 20:23:53
Non-sports clip on why life is interesting in Russia.

https://www.youtube.com/embed/756eDZ_myuM
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: AvastMH on 10 February 2014, 02:46:21
 :o :o ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Hanibal94 on 10 February 2014, 13:19:16
Very interesting - and funny too!

Here's something nice I discovered:

Real Life Superheroes (http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=hohnzMe0cWw)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 10 February 2014, 13:42:34
I don't think I'd ever want the costumes, but they definitely know how to be good.  :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Caro on 12 February 2014, 03:14:25
Hello OW.

Today's weather:
Fourteen severe flood warnings are in place in Berkshire and Surrey while two remain in Somerset.
BBC weather forecaster Laura Gilchrist said winds could exceed 100mph around the coast of west Wales.

Help.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-26137148
I'm sure you can see another chunk falling into the hole at about 40 seconds.  :o
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 12 February 2014, 03:50:57
This is getting very, very scary.  Take care and stay dry (and above ground.)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Caro on 12 February 2014, 05:50:40
Weather warning:

LATEST:
Met Office shipping forecast now warning of Hurricane Force 12 winds imminent in sea areas Lundy, Fastnet and Irish Sea
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 12 February 2014, 06:03:36
Very seriously, batten down and evacuate to high ground.  Hurricanes yet now!! :o
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: jil on 12 February 2014, 06:31:31
The Met office have extended the Red Warning of wind to include NW England - eek! Hopefully I far enough inland not to get the worse. I'm just about on the edge of the red blob on the map.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Helen J on 12 February 2014, 07:13:20
That's scarey, jil.  I just checked the maps and I'm farther away than that from the red bit (further south) - it's still pretty windy though.  Hope you're able to stay safely indoors today and let it pass over.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Caro on 12 February 2014, 08:10:47
It's that pub in Dorset again ...

(http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/images/72932000/jpg/_72932066_dorset.jpg)

Take care, everyone.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: studentforever on 12 February 2014, 08:13:18
Phew, my brother's area is amber not red.  If it goes red he'll be called in to gold or silver command and if they get twitchy he could get called in anyway.  He'll be put on formal standby anyway, I suspect.  That means that he has to stay sober enough to drive in if they activate the command centre and keep his mobile switched on.

I'm away from it, thank heavens.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: camiller on 12 February 2014, 08:40:02
Stay safe over there in Britain!
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: AvastMH on 12 February 2014, 08:48:34
New 'SUB-stitution' travel arrangements are in place for South Oxford after the latest deluge:
(http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/560/erfz.jpg) (https://imageshack.com/i/fkerfzj)

on 'foot routes only' the situation is bleak:
(http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/640x480q90/571/knsy.jpg) (https://imageshack.com/i/fvknsyj)

I am just so grateful not to be living on the SW coasts just now!  :( :o
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 12 February 2014, 08:52:21
This looks terrible.  Everyone in Britain, take great care and stay safe.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Kathy on 12 February 2014, 10:15:08
What a mess - good luck all -
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Craig on 12 February 2014, 10:41:47
Not that any reasonable person in the UK could doubt it right now, but here is a good Guardian article that explains how global warming has not paused, as some have suggested.

http://www.theguardian.com/environment/planet-oz/2014/feb/12/global-warming-fake-pause-hiatus-climate-change=
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: jil on 12 February 2014, 10:47:35
That's scarey, jil.  I just checked the maps and I'm farther away than that from the red bit (further south) - it's still pretty windy though.  Hope you're able to stay safely indoors today and let it pass over.
Helen, that's definitely my plan! Not too bad so far.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Helen J on 12 February 2014, 12:40:49
Glad to hear it - I've just got back safely from driving to somewhere I hadn't been before, down some very small (and very wet) rural roads.  On the way there I also had high winds, rain, from steady to torrential, and hailstones from a very black sky.  Then there was a rainbow, and just as I arrived at my destination the sun came out - all in about 30 minutes!  Weird weather.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: studentforever on 12 February 2014, 12:51:00
One of us is safe at least, hope you can now stay warm and dry.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 12 February 2014, 14:24:56
"It's that pub in Dorset again ... " Did you want water with your scotch sir?
What about the chap to the right of the pub, I wonder where he is now?

Good luck Jil. I hope Preston misses it as well. 80mph winds have hit Blackpool.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 12 February 2014, 14:38:05
Thanks all in Britain for staying in touch. 

For a light touch, this came to me thru Facebook.  A fun way to exercise lots of people.  :)

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=564939543590508
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: jil on 12 February 2014, 15:09:22
 ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Helen J on 12 February 2014, 15:57:19
Could make commuting a lot more fun!
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: jil on 13 February 2014, 04:32:01
Morning OW, a little less blustery today.  :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: studentforever on 13 February 2014, 04:41:04
For anyone interested, Dreadnought by Robert Massie is available for 99p on Kindle, today only. If you don't have a Kindle you can download a free app on your computer.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Helen J on 13 February 2014, 14:42:51
How are our northern and eastern Americans coping with their weather?  It looks pretty grim from the pictures on the BBC.  Meanwhile we've had a day of better weather - but tomorrow it's going to rain and blow and generally be terrible again.
Hope everyone, wherever they are, is coping with whatever Mother Nature is throwing at them ....
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Thursday Next on 13 February 2014, 14:47:23
For anyone interested, Dreadnought by Robert Massie is available for 99p on Kindle, today only. If you don't have a Kindle you can download a free app on your computer.

Thanks for that!  Definitely an opportunity not to be missed.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 13 February 2014, 14:53:33
The northern midwest was missed entirely.  The deep south and the Atlantic seaboard were pummeled hard.  I'm concerned about Kathy and others there.  Thick ice in the south and 9 to 20 inches snow in the northeast.  They are saying half a million households lost power.

Another case of both sides of the Atlantic getting swamped together.  It's starting out as a very bad year.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 13 February 2014, 15:54:47
For anyone interested, Dreadnought by Robert Massie is available for 99p on Kindle, today only. If you don't have a Kindle you can download a free app on your computer.

Thanks for that!  Definitely an opportunity not to be missed.

I was to late back up to $8.47 %^(
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Dean on 13 February 2014, 16:14:19
I was trying to add some levity to the comments about 'average' and I guess it lost something in translation!  :-[

I sometimes need to explain to people that I tried being 'Normal' but it was too boring so I went back to being Me...  besides - how would normal people know they were normal if it weren't for the rest of us?!  :-\
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: studentforever on 13 February 2014, 16:35:54
Me, I just hated being stereotyped.  OK, I am female and I enjoy handicrafts.  I also spent my career in engineering.  I'm sure some of my students would have felt happier if my hobby had been model railways or something but lacemaking, embroidery, knitting just didn't fit their pigeon-hole.  Me, if it wasn't illegal or immoral but merely upset their preconceptions then it was their problem not mine.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 13 February 2014, 17:29:44
Me too - I was Quality Control Manager in a factory, dealing mostly with blue-collar men.  My favorite hobbies were embroidery, needlepoint and piano (which last I enjoyed but was never really good at.)  And then I started doing tai chi.  The men never did figure me out.  :D
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: asterix135 on 13 February 2014, 17:30:59
Me, I just hated being stereotyped.  OK, I am female and I enjoy handicrafts.  I also spent my career in engineering.  I'm sure some of my students would have felt happier if my hobby had been model railways or something but lacemaking, embroidery, knitting just didn't fit their pigeon-hole.  Me, if it wasn't illegal or immoral but merely upset their preconceptions then it was their problem not mine.

I had to read that first line 3x because it kept looking to me like "OK I am female and I enjoy handcuffs"

Not sure what that says about me....
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: camiller on 13 February 2014, 20:30:55
We're in the middle of this snow storm.  About 8-9 inches of snow fell today, followed by some sleet.  Another 8 inches are expected tonight.  My cousin in Roanoke, VA, posted a pic of ruler with snow at 21 inches!
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Post by: Janet Jaguar on 13 February 2014, 20:45:06
Is it possible to start seeing melt in a few days, or are you - like Chicago - too far north?  If you are to have a total of 20" +/- it will shut everything down anyway.

You keep safe.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Caro on 14 February 2014, 02:33:34
Morning all.

Happy Valentine's Day.

(http://www.clipartpal.com/_thumbs/pd/plants/flowers/coloured_rose.png)
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Post by: AvastMH on 14 February 2014, 02:40:44
 :-*
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Post by: Hanibal94 on 14 February 2014, 07:13:57
It means you need to get your eyes checked?
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Post by: Helen J on 14 February 2014, 07:32:41
 :D :D :D
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Post by: studentforever on 14 February 2014, 07:41:10
Nice post WW1 story proving the power of the Internet.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-26174948
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Post by: Randi on 14 February 2014, 07:49:07
Wonderful!
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Post by: jil on 14 February 2014, 08:09:54
Lovely story.
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Post by: Dean on 14 February 2014, 08:28:27
Me, I just hated being stereotyped.  OK, I am female and I enjoy handicrafts.  I also spent my career in engineering.  I'm sure some of my students would have felt happier if my hobby had been model railways or something but lacemaking, embroidery, knitting just didn't fit their pigeon-hole.  Me, if it wasn't illegal or immoral but merely upset their preconceptions then it was their problem not mine.

I had to read that first line 3x because it kept looking to me like "OK I am female and I enjoy handcuffs"

Not sure what that says about me....

One for the 'Mondegreen's File' ??!!   ::)
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Post by: Hanibal94 on 14 February 2014, 09:38:12
Very nice! Thanks for posting it.
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Post by: camiller on 14 February 2014, 10:57:04
Great story.  I'm so glad the writer survived the war.

Update from southeastern upstate NY - 12.5 more inches of snow on top of the driveway we shoveled yesterday, for a total of about 2 feet in the yard!  Thank goodness we have the weekend to find someplace to put all this snow!   Wishing everyone a warm Valentine's Day!
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Post by: Kathy on 14 February 2014, 11:20:28
I'm female and I do handicrafts too - and several other things as well - no pigeon holes here!
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Post by: studentforever on 14 February 2014, 11:30:42
Quite. I had one student (male) who was a keen knitter and a brother who made lace.  It works both ways for me!!
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Post by: Kathy on 14 February 2014, 11:59:24
My back yard:
(http://i1229.photobucket.com/albums/ee462/Pwendolk/IMG_0142_zps528e7c3c.jpg) (http://s1229.photobucket.com/user/Pwendolk/media/IMG_0142_zps528e7c3c.jpg.html)
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Post by: Helen J on 14 February 2014, 12:12:08
It looks beautiful Kathy, but I expect living with it is rather less so ....
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Post by: Kathy on 14 February 2014, 12:25:25
And more on the way tonight -  :o

It doesn't bother me one bit - the husband and the boy do the shoveling - all I have to do is make hot cocoa  ;D

 

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Post by: Caro on 14 February 2014, 12:30:45
Keep on making the hot cocoa and taking the pics, Kathy. :)
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Post by: Helen J on 14 February 2014, 13:20:39
That sounds an excellent division of labour, Kathy (or even labor).  Stay inside and warm  :D
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Post by: Janet Jaguar on 14 February 2014, 13:34:38
That is definitely a Big Snow.  You and yours stay warm and safe.
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Post by: Thursday Next on 14 February 2014, 14:15:15
I'm a stitcher, too - I wonder if there is a correlation between enjoying a project like OW and also enjoying needlework?
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Post by: camiller on 14 February 2014, 14:35:38
Keep the cocoa going, Kathy, and stay warm!
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Post by: camiller on 14 February 2014, 14:39:34
Count me in the scientist-and-fiber-arts group!  My co-workers in the field knew where to find a needle and thread when they needed one.  And small crochet hooks were great at rescuing slides stuck in the carousel.  OK, I'm really dating myself with that last one.
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Post by: Helen J on 14 February 2014, 14:56:49
Yes, that makes sense - I thought I'd done more on OW than they'd recorded.

However I have to say I give the lie to the link between OW and needlework - couldn't wait to give it up at school, and can just about sew a button back on or put up a (simple) hem.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Thursday Next on 14 February 2014, 15:21:45
However I have to say I give the lie to the link between OW and needlework - couldn't wait to give it up at school, and can just about sew a button back on or put up a (simple) hem.

Actually I hated needlework at school as well!  I only rediscovered it much later in life.  I think Randi's correct in saying that both pastimes require patience and attention to detail.
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Post by: Dean on 14 February 2014, 16:09:21
Count me in the scientist-and-fiber-arts group!  My co-workers in the field knew where to find a needle and thread when they needed one.  And small crochet hooks were great at rescuing slides stuck in the carousel.  OK, I'm really dating myself with that last one.

I'm old enough! I used a dental pick - never thought of the crochet hook!  ::)

Mom taught me to sew, iron, fix tears, etc. VERY THANKFUL for that. The 'Yachties' in our Club know I can do sail repair and this winter I sewed new curtains for the boat. I'll hang them when we get ready to launch in April. Did I hear 'Suzzie Homaker??!!'   8)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Dean on 14 February 2014, 16:15:50
Stay safe Kathy!

WOW! For YOU that's CATASTROPHIC. For us up here in western New York State near Niagara Falls that's a 'normal afternoon.' We are up to 70" (175cm) for the season. A 'normal' one around here is 110" (275cm) or so. Haven't seen one of those in several years so we find this 'interesting!'
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Post by: Pommy Stuart on 14 February 2014, 16:27:29
WOW! For YOU that's CATASTROPHIC.
Cocoa or snow?   ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: studentforever on 14 February 2014, 16:46:07
I'm old enough to remember carting around glass slides which were manually loaded into the holder which held two slides, one projected and one ready.  You needed a projectionist and you had to settle on the cue for the next slide.  A box of slides really weighed down your luggage and had to be handled with great care because it was so easy to scratch them. 

The handicraft I struggled with was tatting, I managed simple motifs but I never produced anything bigger because I always seemed to get it twisted so it would not lie flat.  Frustrating because it was so easy to pack into handbags for traveling and if you had the right shuttle that was all you needed. Unlike knitting or crochet you could do it on flights.  The major drawback of lacemaking is the effort it takes to transport - if you get the packing wrong you can end up with several dozen threads all tangled up together and it can take you an age to disentangle them and work out where you were in the pattern.
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Post by: Kathy on 14 February 2014, 16:59:52
Tried tatting, crochet, and knitting - well, the less said, the better  :P

I do bead work - I make jewelry and beaded bookmarks (I designed one for OW, using an anchor charm and blue, red, white, and orange beads - the colors for O and W in signal flags  ;D ).  I make Christmas ornaments too -

(I have done some sewing, but bead work is what I really enjoy) -
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Post by: Randi on 14 February 2014, 17:18:56
I had fun knitting, but I never made much ::)
(lots of test swatches and experiments ;D)
It was more something to keep my hands busy.

I did a little bit of tatting, but I could never get the hang of crocheting.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: AvastMH on 14 February 2014, 17:59:14
The Zooniverse has 1 million members! Huzzah!

Did this happen today Hanibal?  :o 8) 8) 8) :)

Crafts:  my mum was an haute couturist in her early days. So me and my sister learnt to sew from very early on. I knitted my first piece of work at age 5 - a hot water bottle cover made of lilac and purple nylon 'wool' which IS STILL in use (albeit a bit thin these days, 50 years on). She always said that I was cack-handed (a messy worker doing things the wrong way around). However, about 10 years ago it suddenly came to me why she thought my sewing was weird, she sat next to my sister on the sofa to teach us hand work, I had to sit on the floor in front of her..so I work 'upside down'.  And she was a real tartar about work - can't tell you how many seams I had to unpick in the early days..I used to weep floods of tears in sheer frustration and anger. A few years ago her back had become so badly bent over with age and elderly bones that no clothes would fit, so I designed a whole set of dresses and blouses and skirts that would sit smartly over her twisted frame. She went to meet her maker dressed in the yellow primrose frock. And then I thanked her for all those miserable moments - learning the job properly was indeed worth the effort.
 I run the (rather small) craft session at work on Thursday lunch times. I do think that a lot of why I enjoy crafts links in with OW....attention to detail - a useful outcome for my efforts.

PS - anyone into nalbinding?
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: AvastMH on 14 February 2014, 18:24:58
 ;D ;D ;D
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Post by: Janet Jaguar on 14 February 2014, 18:29:50
Fascinating - I'd never heard of that before; it sounds possible for me, I could never hold tension to do decent knitting or crochet.  There are how-to links at the end, I might give it a try.  naalebinding (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/N%C3%A5lebinding)  :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: camiller on 14 February 2014, 20:40:48
My knitting group has been wanting to learn tatting.  Maybe I'll add naalebinding, too, especially if it doesn't unravel! ;D

Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: studentforever on 15 February 2014, 03:51:46
Now the arthritis in my fingers is getting worse that is one to investigate.  Could even do kids sessions at the local museums if I get any good - they've got some Coptic socks but I think they are labelled 'knitted'.  Next time I get over there I'll check.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: jil on 15 February 2014, 04:01:20
Naalebinding - That's another thing to add to the very long list of things I've learnt from OW!

I used to knit until I realised that I didn't really like wearing knitwear.  ::) I still do bits of cross-stitch and other embroidery and had a go at lace making some time ago after being fascinated by watching lace makers when I was on holiday on Malta - usually little old ladies sitting on their doorstep. I'm currently learning about willow weaving.
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Post by: lollia paolina on 15 February 2014, 04:19:01
It is good to know there are so many people here who appreciate handicrafts :)

I can say I enjoy most of them, possibly crochet is not my cup of tea :) but I like tunisian crocheting :)

I do cross stitch, knitting and quilting regularly :) :)


Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: AvastMH on 15 February 2014, 07:41:41
never heard of tunisian crochet...just  looked it up - nice one lollia!  :D
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Hanibal94 on 15 February 2014, 09:46:37
Never heard of tunisian crocheting either.
In fact, I don't have a clue when it comes to all this fancy knitting stuff, since I'm young and male.
I'm more into computer programming, which is a different form of crafting all together.

P.S. Shouldn't this discussion of knitting and other hobbies be moved to the Dockside cafe? Methinks it's way too off topic to be in the news section.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: studentforever on 15 February 2014, 09:47:33
To all OWers on the other side of the pond - stay safe and warm.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-26203675
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Hanibal94 on 15 February 2014, 09:55:04
Quote
Sheriff Scott Berry declared all men in the area were exempt from having to buy chocolate or other gifts for their partners until next Tuesday.

Best excuse ever!  ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 15 February 2014, 09:59:44
Quote
Sheriff Scott Berry declared all men in the area were exempt from having to buy chocolate or other gifts for their partners until next Tuesday.

Best excuse ever!  ;D

If anyone thinks they are going to get off free, they are going to be hip deep in trouble come Tuesday. >:(
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 15 February 2014, 10:07:28
Quote
P.S. Shouldn't this discussion of knitting and other hobbies be moved to the Dockside cafe? Methinks it's way too off topic to be in the news section.

You are right.  DONE.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 15 February 2014, 14:51:28
I used to do Rug Hooking with strips of felt and a piece of sacking to make floor mats.
(They where nowhere near as fancy as the ones shown when you look them up on TFSE.)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: studentforever on 15 February 2014, 14:54:20
My grandmother had rugs made from cut up old coats, trousers and skirts hooked into sackcloth.  By upbringing and necessity she belonged to the 'waste not, want not' school of housewifery.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Thursday Next on 15 February 2014, 15:16:58
I did a one day course on making rag rugs - interesting, but I decided it was going to take me a long, long time to make even a small rug!
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: studentforever on 15 February 2014, 16:15:02
I did a couple of rugs with cut up wool on canvas which wasn't too bad but a bit tough on the fingers.  The rag rugs looked really hard work though and I decided that this wasn't for me although the recycling aspect appeals.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Caro on 16 February 2014, 03:54:45
Good morning all.
In this part of the world, we are delighted to greet a new day of sunshine and NO wind.

On the handicrafts front, I have made many stuffed toys (Teddy bears and other kinds of animals, a few dolls), wooden automata from kits ...
I have made articles of clothing too (including a man's shirt; never again) and curtains and cushion covers.
I would rather make pictures though.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Helen J on 16 February 2014, 09:46:57
I'm glad you make pictures, Caro - they're more possible to share with the rest of us ...  :) :)
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Post by: Pommy Stuart on 16 February 2014, 19:12:01
Cannot remember if I shared this link with you before but just in case.
http://matadornetwork.com/bnt/60-insane-cloud-formations-from-around-the-world-pics/ (http://matadornetwork.com/bnt/60-insane-cloud-formations-from-around-the-world-pics/)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Randi on 17 February 2014, 02:21:40
http://forum.oldweather.org/index.php?topic=2988.msg47576#msg47576 ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Dean on 18 February 2014, 08:30:13
To all our UK friends.. We hope you are above water and safe!!

You have made the National Network News each night for the last several.

We are keeping you in our thoughts and Prayers.

Please let us know if there is anything we can do (besides "Rain, Rain, go away come again some other day....")
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Post by: Helen J on 18 February 2014, 09:31:56
Thanks Dean - the weather does finally seem to be improving somewhat, and the number of severe flood warnings has decreased dramatically.  The problem for the next while seems likely to be groundwater; with the ground so saturated any amount of water could flood or re-flood at risk areas for weeks or even months.
And of course there are still flooded areas, especially in Somerset - and a huge amount of clearing up to do.
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Post by: Randi on 18 February 2014, 15:08:39
A weighted butt gives chickens a dinosaur strut (https://www.sciencenews.org/blog/scicurious/weighted-butt-gives-chickens-dinosaur-strut)
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Post by: AvastMH on 19 February 2014, 04:40:35
A weighted butt gives chickens a dinosaur strut (https://www.sciencenews.org/blog/scicurious/weighted-butt-gives-chickens-dinosaur-strut)

Weird alert! Ummmm...and the practical application of this is...???????
Joan (SMILE)

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Post by: Hanibal94 on 19 February 2014, 11:26:55
A weighted butt gives chickens a dinosaur strut (https://www.sciencenews.org/blog/scicurious/weighted-butt-gives-chickens-dinosaur-strut)

Weird alert! Ummmm...and the practical application of this is...???????
Joan (SMILE)

An Ig Nobel Prize for Biology?
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Post by: Janet Jaguar on 19 February 2014, 11:37:11
 ;D
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Post by: AvastMH on 19 February 2014, 12:13:43
 ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Hanibal94 on 20 February 2014, 11:47:57
Did anybody in Britain feel this?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-26277432
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Post by: philip.brohan on 20 February 2014, 14:38:34
Did anybody in Britain feel this?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-26277432

It shook the Met Office (Exeter) quite noticeably. No damage, though.

Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Thursday Next on 20 February 2014, 14:49:17
That's interesting, Philip - I didn't notice a thing!  I think I would have been in my car at the time - perhaps it's less noticeable in something that would move with the tremor?
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Post by: propriome on 20 February 2014, 15:06:25
perhaps it's less noticeable in something that would move with the tremor?
Most surely! I live in a country where earth is shaking every now and then (lately we've had a lot of little tremors and a few damaging quakes).
When you're moving in a car, the magnitude has to be relatively high (you'd see at least some damage to structures) to be noticeable.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Thursday Next on 20 February 2014, 15:13:12
Thanks - it's good to have an explanation!
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: asterix135 on 20 February 2014, 15:47:20
I see nobody else has commented on the most important news of the day:

http://bit.ly/1d6ifHZ
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Post by: Caro on 20 February 2014, 17:14:36
It was a thrilling game.  :)
Congrats Canada, commiserations US.
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Post by: AvastMH on 20 February 2014, 17:43:31
oh THAT important news - I thought you meant the women's curling team! (not the Canadian winners - the UK team coming third) ;) ;) 8) ;D
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Post by: Pommy Stuart on 20 February 2014, 17:50:17
Quote Joan.
" I thought you meant the women's curling team!"
I did not know they did Hairdressing in the winter Olympics.  ???
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Post by: Craig on 20 February 2014, 17:58:38
Wasn't that a brilliant comeback? When Canada pulled it's goalie there was a shot on goal that glanced off the goal post. Had it gone in that would have been game over.
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Post by: camiller on 20 February 2014, 21:30:41
Great game!  Congrats, Canada!
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Randi on 21 February 2014, 02:29:13
 ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: AvastMH on 21 February 2014, 03:58:55
Quote Joan.
" I thought you meant the women's curling team!"
I did not know they did Hairdressing in the winter Olympics.  ???

Next Olympics they'll bring in Freestyle Beehives, Stuart. Men and Women's.  ;) 8) ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Caro on 21 February 2014, 07:03:19
In today's Guardian:

(http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/pictures/2014/2/20/1392925141078/Borth-forest-remains-Card-011.jpg)

Gales hitting the west coast of Wales have uncovered these oak, pine, birch and alder trees dating to 6,000 years ago. Photograph: Keith Morris/LNP

A prehistoric forest, an eerie landscape including the trunks of hundreds of oaks that died more than 4,500 years ago, has been revealed by the ferocious storms which stripped thousands of tons of sand from beaches in Cardigan Bay.

The forest of Borth once stretched for miles on boggy land between Borth and Ynyslas, before climate change and rising sea levels buried it under layers of peat, sand and saltwater.
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Post by: Dean on 21 February 2014, 07:59:01
Amazing!!!!  ;D
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Post by: asterix135 on 21 February 2014, 09:27:35
The stakes for today's hockey game are scarily high

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bg86QivCMAALFvU.jpg)
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Post by: jil on 21 February 2014, 10:23:30
 :o  ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Hanibal94 on 21 February 2014, 11:00:35
Now THAT is what I call motivation! Good one!  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Caro on 21 February 2014, 11:06:53
Ooooo.  ;D
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Post by: Kathy on 21 February 2014, 11:10:44
 ;D -please take him -

 8) - that is so cool about the forest - it is a shame that it took such a disastrous storm to uncover the trunks -
 
WOW - I did not know there were earthquakes in that part of the world.
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Post by: AvastMH on 21 February 2014, 13:55:59
Fantastic forest - really neat! :D
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: camiller on 21 February 2014, 17:03:07
 8) about the forest!  I hope the storms stop before it, too, is washed away!
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Michael on 21 February 2014, 20:57:35
It seems other people have had trouble with hard to read handwriting:
200 year old typo (http://www.yukon-news.com/life/the-case-of-the-200-year-old-typo)

Michael
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Post by: Janet Jaguar on 21 February 2014, 21:18:43
Tricky inaccurate transcriptions? ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Randi on 22 February 2014, 02:14:48
 ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: jil on 22 February 2014, 03:54:11
Glad we're carrying on the tradition of not being able to decide if someone's crossing their 't's or not.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Thursday Next on 22 February 2014, 14:51:23
Interesting.  Just to play devil's advocate (one of my favourite hobbies) does it matter what the original intention was?  If the "l" spelling has become customary usage, isn't that it's name?  How many variations in spelling of placenames do we see in all our logbooks?  For example, when and why did the Mull of Cantyre become the Mull of Kintyre?  (Google has been no help on this one.)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 22 February 2014, 18:01:07
And remember, for most of history there was no standardized spelling.  So lots of people just wrote down the phonetics of what they heard.  Which varies depending on the accent of the speaker.  English spelling (both sides of the Atlantic) is a mess.

 Just to make the situation stickier.  ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Michael on 22 February 2014, 18:38:31
Winter strikes again. Fourth snowstorm of this winter. Happily, or maybe not, we were able to get the car out of the driveway and go to the gym.  :( Will this winter never end?
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: AvastMH on 22 February 2014, 19:20:39
 :o Happy shovelling - DON'T overdo it!! ;) ;D ;D
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Post by: Pommy Stuart on 22 February 2014, 19:49:55
My latest New Scientist arrived yesterday. (22 Feb 1893 2014)
Front cover.

Special Report
ABANDON OR ADAPT?
The future of Englands green and flooded land.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 22 February 2014, 19:57:44
It seems other people have had trouble with hard to read handwriting:
200 year old typo (http://www.yukon-news.com/life/the-case-of-the-200-year-old-typo)

Michael

Well, at least I have more hair than my namesake.

J.S.Franklin
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Kathy on 23 February 2014, 08:25:14
At last -

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=777_1392789840 (http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=777_1392789840)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 23 February 2014, 11:27:05
Thank you for finding that for us.  :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Kevin on 23 February 2014, 12:48:22
Coooool.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: camiller on 23 February 2014, 13:02:53
 ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Caro on 25 February 2014, 04:39:45
No more curling, please.
http://www.youtube.com/embed/evNi4_2qHPY

It's raining!
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Steeleye on 25 February 2014, 04:48:21
Caro!  Finally, somebody has found a good use for a cat!
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Caro on 25 February 2014, 06:34:31
And aren't they adorable?!  :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Steeleye on 25 February 2014, 13:52:50
That was a very restrained  respomse to a disparaging comment about our feline friends, Caro.  I expected to receive a tongue-lashing at least.

 :o
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Hanibal94 on 25 February 2014, 14:44:40
How about this one:

(http://i.crackedcdn.com/phpimages/article/4/9/5/168495.jpg?v=1)

Click here for more info (http://news.gather.com/viewArticle.action?articleId=281474981596861)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Thursday Next on 25 February 2014, 15:29:24
Not quite as striking, but this is the best I can do in the way of cats with unusual facial markings.  This is YingYang, currently available for adoption!
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Helen J on 26 February 2014, 07:30:15
Both are striking and beautiful - and made me smile  :D
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Hanibal94 on 26 February 2014, 07:42:37
One more:

(https://i.chzbgr.com/maxW500/4502670848/hA0F43373/)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Helen J on 26 February 2014, 07:47:53
 :D :D :D
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: jil on 26 February 2014, 08:14:56
UK storms: World War One wreck revealed on beach (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-26352355)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Kathy on 26 February 2014, 10:15:25
Oh look, it is snowing.... :o
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: camiller on 26 February 2014, 10:21:27
oh no!
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: AvastMH on 26 February 2014, 10:59:11
where?
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Michael on 26 February 2014, 11:38:15
Good luck, Kathy! We survived several snowstorms this winter, and I'm sure you can do the same. Be brave! ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Kathy on 26 February 2014, 11:49:48
I'm in Maryland, outside of DC, this has been our snowiest winter since Snowmaggedon and the Snowpocalpyse.  Oh well, it is pretty on the trees.  :P
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Helen J on 26 February 2014, 12:00:26
Get the hot chocolate on, and send out the men to get clearing!
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Kathy on 26 February 2014, 12:35:12
 ;D

I think the sun will take of this batch - but I might just make hot cocoa anyway - it is still cold!
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 26 February 2014, 14:55:39
Chicago is on its second day of bright sun in clear blue sky - and below-zero wind chill.  The are calling it "arctic drift" this time as it looks like a broad front this time, not a tight vortex that pushes warm up around it into the north.

I am very very tired of this winter, nobody is having it easy.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Thursday Next on 26 February 2014, 15:31:07
One more:

(https://i.chzbgr.com/maxW500/4502670848/hA0F43373/)

There is, of course, a whole website devoted to Cats That Look Like Hitler!  See http://www.catsthatlooklikehitler.com/cgi-bin/seigmiaow.pl
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Kathy on 26 February 2014, 17:20:45
I wonder if Planet Hunters had a hand in this - http://news.yahoo.com/population-known-alien-planets-nearly-doubles-nasa-discovers-191250870.html
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 26 February 2014, 17:29:55
I'm very certain yes.  I'd feel miffed at Zooniverse not being mentioned, except no scientist or team got mentioned.  So we are in good company.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Steeleye on 26 February 2014, 19:09:13
Interesting interactive map appeared on the ABC site a couple of days ago (that's 'our' ABC, not your version!).  It shows Australia-wide rainfall for every year from 1900 to 2013.  Interesting viewing, particularly the contrasts between 1902, 1940, 1950, 1973/74, 1994, 2002 and 2010/11.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-02-26/100-years-of-drought/5282030 (http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-02-26/100-years-of-drought/5282030)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 26 February 2014, 19:13:07
Amazing variations.  You never really know what you will be getting long term.  Thanks for sharing.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 26 February 2014, 19:19:23
The interview with Dr Karl Wheelbarrow I found interesting.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Caro on 27 February 2014, 02:10:08
Hello OW.
More interesting news on the climate-change front: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-26340038
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Hanibal94 on 27 February 2014, 02:37:23
One more:

(https://i.chzbgr.com/maxW500/4502670848/hA0F43373/)

There is, of course, a whole website devoted to Cats That Look Like Hitler!  See http://www.catsthatlooklikehitler.com/cgi-bin/seigmiaow.pl

There's lots of weird stuff (http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-26343700) on the Internet, if you know where to look. I like the Birds With Arms.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: AvastMH on 27 February 2014, 02:49:08
 :o
Hmmm...do some people with PaintShopPro on their computers have too much time on their hands?  ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Randi on 27 February 2014, 07:16:17
 ::)
They could do something more useful with all that time... ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Thursday Next on 27 February 2014, 08:29:49
I think the cats on the Cats That Look Like Hitler site are genuine - no PhotoShop involved!
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Hanibal94 on 27 February 2014, 09:59:25
Yeah, but these are definitely not real - I hope!


(http://www.iywib.com/birds_with_arms5.jpg)

(http://rack.0.mshcdn.com/media/ZgkyMDEzLzAxLzAyLzUxL2JpcmRzd2l0aGFyLjMwYWU4LmpwZwpwCXRodW1iCTEyMDB4OTYwMD4/1c8017f9/6f4/birds-with-arms-1200.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/iiIGOQt.jpg)

(http://brojsimpson.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/animal-human-arms-10.jpg)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Thursday Next on 27 February 2014, 14:06:36
I hope so too!  ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: DJ_59 on 27 February 2014, 22:09:19
Yeah, but these are definitely not real - I hope!


(http://www.iywib.com/birds_with_arms5.jpg)



Looks like A-Rod's been tossing gummy bears off the Staton Island Ferry again.

I promise that makes sense in America.

Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 28 February 2014, 01:10:06
Where did they get my arms from?




(not me)   ::)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Caro on 28 February 2014, 02:23:12
Greetings all.
Aurora borealis put on quite a show for a large part of the UK last night.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-26378027
I live too far south to have seen any of this.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: AvastMH on 28 February 2014, 03:43:05
Greetings all.
Aurora borealis put on quite a show for a large part of the UK last night.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-26378027
I live too far south to have seen any of this.

Fabulous!
My god-daughter lives in Stonehaven...lucky her!  :D
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: jil on 28 February 2014, 03:55:05
Great pics!

I didn't look outside last night so don't know if I missed them :'(
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Randi on 28 February 2014, 03:56:09
I would love to see the aurora borealis :'(
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: studentforever on 28 February 2014, 04:00:08
Ditto but I've always lived too close to cities to see them.  So unless I am very, very lucky on holiday I won't see them. One day maybe.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Hanibal94 on 28 February 2014, 10:41:52
Been a while since I last posted a heartwarming story of homeless people getting help, but I finally found another one. (http://vimeo.com/85667492) Enjoy!
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Michael on 28 February 2014, 20:31:05
I loved the pictures of the northern lights - just as good as the ones in the Yukon. Living in the Yukon had it's benefits and challenges. The challenge is best illustrated by this photo i took on our street in Whitehorse in January, 1996, at solar noon with a temperature of -46C (-51F). The benefits were, among other things, the northern lights. The northern lights photo wasn't taken by me. It is on the Dempster Highway, along the Richardson Mountains. Enjoy!

Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 28 February 2014, 21:19:48
Stunning.  Absolutely gorgeous country up there. :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Kathy on 28 February 2014, 23:32:29
There are mountains in my Heaven -
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Caro on 01 March 2014, 02:33:55
Good morning all.

Happy St David's Day, Wales.  :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: AvastMH on 01 March 2014, 06:08:40
(Sing along...) "Oh the sun is a-shining to welcome the morn, with a Hey! Ho! come to the fair..." Bright and lovely in Oxfordshire this morning.  Real sense of spring just around the corner. Daffodils just breaking cover...

And mentioning that delightful flower...for those in the west:
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Randi on 02 March 2014, 05:43:02
New in OWpedia (http://forum.oldweather.org/index.php?topic=3209.0):

SHIPLOADING - A Picture-Dictionary of Shiploading Terms - US Navy 1945 (http://www.history.navy.mil/research/library/online-reading-room/title-list-alphabetically/s/shiploading-picture-dictionary.html)

Definitions with pictures!
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: studentforever on 02 March 2014, 08:39:21
Definitely a super land-lubbers guide to naval jargon.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: propriome on 03 March 2014, 03:10:15
 :o :D :o
Definitely what i was looking for!!

Thank you Randi
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Caro on 03 March 2014, 08:02:19
Ooooo. What's at the bottom of the 7,000m-deep trench?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-26373896
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Hanibal94 on 03 March 2014, 08:16:03
Woah. Very interesting!

Anybody up for a game of golf? (http://safeshare.tv/w/lNQxKkFRoZ)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: AvastMH on 03 March 2014, 10:36:50
Woah. Very interesting!

Anybody up for a game of golf? (http://safeshare.tv/w/lNQxKkFRoZ)

Well - that's reason 595 out of 1000 for working on OW.  ;) 8)  ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: AvastMH on 03 March 2014, 10:37:44
Ooooo. What's at the bottom of the 7,000m-deep trench?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-26373896

Something you really would not want to meet on a dark night!  :o
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Kathy on 03 March 2014, 11:08:07
Looking out into my back yard and what do I see...more snow
yea....
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: camiller on 03 March 2014, 11:18:23
 :o Oh, Kathy, my sympathies!  We  here in SE NY  escaped this latest round of snow and still have almost a foot on the ground thanks to this persistent freezing weather. 

Good luck!
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 05 March 2014, 21:31:56
Weather yesterday in Sydney.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Michael on 05 March 2014, 22:54:34
Nice roll cloud.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 05 March 2014, 23:20:54
That's quite a dark storm moving in.  Take care.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 05 March 2014, 23:41:50
See also.
http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/spectacular-tsunami-of-cloud-rolls-across-sydney/story-fni0cx4q-1226846159785 (http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/spectacular-tsunami-of-cloud-rolls-across-sydney/story-fni0cx4q-1226846159785)

Short but quite effective.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Caro on 06 March 2014, 02:18:40
Wow. What a cloud! Thanks for posting, Stuart.

Sunny and almost like spring here.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 06 March 2014, 03:11:55
How would you describe that cloudy day in the logs?
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: AvastMH on 06 March 2014, 03:40:21
How would you describe that cloudy day in the logs?

gtsdbtb  (get the sails down, back to bed)  ::)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: propriome on 06 March 2014, 04:10:05
See also.
http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/spectacular-tsunami-of-cloud-rolls-across-sydney/story-fni0cx4q-1226846159785 (http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/spectacular-tsunami-of-cloud-rolls-across-sydney/story-fni0cx4q-1226846159785)

Short but quite effective.
:o :o :o Really impressive

gtsdbtb  (get the sails down, back to bed)  ::)
;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Randi on 06 March 2014, 07:21:16
 ;D ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Caro on 06 March 2014, 08:31:25
http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/the-captain-of-the-queen-mary-2-gets-close-to-his-ship-like-never-before/story-e6freon6-1226847012274

 :o
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: jil on 06 March 2014, 10:57:04
Wow  :o 8)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Randi on 06 March 2014, 12:26:04
Neat!!!
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: jil on 06 March 2014, 13:22:19
Several mentions for Citizen Science on Radio 4's Inside Science (http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b03ws21x) program this afternoon (repeated at 21:00 for those in UK) - Bat Detective and weather@home
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Dean on 06 March 2014, 15:01:18
http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/the-captain-of-the-queen-mary-2-gets-close-to-his-ship-like-never-before/story-e6freon6-1226847012274

 :o

One of the ladies I used to work with - her husband was Senior Captain with Cunnard. He was offered the Queen Mary but being near retirement he chose to stay with the QE 2. He said the QM was 'quite a ship!'  Looks like he was 'quite right!!'   ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 06 March 2014, 19:58:12
One for you Dean (and others)
http://digital-photography-school.com/39-stunning-photos-boats (http://digital-photography-school.com/39-stunning-photos-boats)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Randi on 07 March 2014, 15:28:28
USS Truxton:
http://forum.oldweather.org/index.php?topic=3513.msg68047#msg68047
http://uk.reuters.com/article/2014/03/07/uk-ukraine-crisis-usa-warship-idUKBREA260ZB20140307
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Hanibal94 on 07 March 2014, 18:04:38
Interesting bit of trivia: While checking Wikipedia, I noticed the following in the "Did you know" section (bottom left of main page):

Quote
Did you know.... that HMS Vindictive (1918) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HMS_Vindictive_(1918)) served as four different types of ship?

I checked the article, and it turns out they were wrong... she actually served as FIVE different types - aircraft carrier, heavy cruiser, training ship, repair ship, and finally a destroyer depot ship.

Now that's some career diversity!
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 07 March 2014, 19:19:46
A highly useful and well used ship.  :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Randi on 08 March 2014, 02:56:46
 ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Craig on 09 March 2014, 06:40:30
Good morning/afternoon everyone.

Today the convention is that we advance our clocks one hour. I will resist as long as possible, even though my computers got reset automatically. Determination and perseverance are required. At least nobody is fiddling with the sun earth, so far.  ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Hanibal94 on 09 March 2014, 07:11:49
I don't have to make the change until March 30th. Click here (http://www.worldtimezone.com/daylight.html) for worldwide details.
One thing that strikes me as odd is that parts of Canada, Mexico and the US don't follow DST, even though most of the country does.  ??? ???
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Craig on 09 March 2014, 07:34:37
Yes, Saskatchewan is a holdout. I suppose it was originally because they were mostly farmers (although so were Alberta and Manitoba).

http://wwp.greenwichmeantime.com/daylight-saving-time/canada/saskatchewan/
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 09 March 2014, 08:23:15
It's not federally mandated - states and territories get to choose in the US.

Quote
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daylight_saving_time_in_the_United_States
Most areas of the United States currently observe daylight saving time (DST), the exceptions being Arizona (except for the Navajo Nation, which does observe daylight saving time), Hawaii, and the overseas territories of Puerto Rico, American Samoa, Guam, the Northern Mariana Islands, and the United States Virgin Islands.

Arizona observed DST in 1967 under the Uniform Time Act because the state legislature did not enact an exemption statute that year. In March 1968 the DST exemption statute was enacted and the state of Arizona has not observed DST since 1967. This is in large part due to energy conservation: Phoenix and Tucson are among the hottest US metropolitan areas during the summer, resulting in more power usage from air conditioning units and evaporative coolers in homes and businesses. An extra hour of sunlight while people are active would cause people to run their cooling systems longer, thereby using more energy.[14] The summer of 1967 was the one year that DST was observed. The State Senate Majority leader at the time[citation needed] owned drive-in theaters and was nearly bankrupted due to DST, as movies could not start until 10:00 p.m. at the height of summer, well past normal hours for most Arizona residents. There has never been any serious consideration of reversing the exemption.[citation needed]

The Navajo Indian Reservation, which extends into two adjacent states, Utah and New Mexico, does observe daylight saving time.[15] The Hopi Reservation, which is entirely within the state of Arizona and is an enclave of the Navajo Indian Reservation, does not observe DST.

Because of Hawaii's tropical latitude, there is not a large variation in daylight length between winter and summer. Advancing the clock in Hawaii would make sunrise times close to 7:00 a.m. even in June.[21] Most of the inhabited islands are located close to the west end of the Hawaii-Aleutian time zone, but Oahu, Kauai, and Niihau are located more than 7 degrees west of the Hawaii-Aleutian time zone's meridian and should, theoretically, be located in the next time zone to the west. (Until about 1946 Hawaiian standard time was based on longitude 157.5 deg west rather than 150 deg.) ... Hawaii has never observed daylight saving time under the Uniform Time Act, having opted out of the Act's provisions in 1967.[24]

All U.S. insular territories with civilian government (American Samoa, Guam, Northern Mariana Islands, Puerto Rico, and the Virgin Islands), lie in the tropics and do not observe DST.
While neighboring Samoa began observing DST in September 2010, the smaller American Samoa cannot legally follow because of the DST observation period mandated by the Uniform Time Act. This period is actually wintertime in this Southern Hemisphere territory.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 09 March 2014, 08:48:56
Same down-under, some states use DST and others not.
(I think some people think DST fades the curtains.)   ;D

New South Wales, the Australian Capital Territory, Victoria, Tasmania and South Australia observe DST every year. This has resulted in three time zones becoming five during the daylight-saving period. (DST is shown below)

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f3/Australia-Timezones-Daylight.png/300px-Australia-Timezones-Daylight.png)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Steeleye on 09 March 2014, 18:03:36
The following article appeared in the Canberra Times this morning on the the summer just finished;
http://www.canberratimes.com.au/environment/weather/angry-summers-will-just-get-madder-scientists-warn-20140309-34fhr.html (http://www.canberratimes.com.au/environment/weather/angry-summers-will-just-get-madder-scientists-warn-20140309-34fhr.html)

I also read this morning (but I can't find the reference now) that, despite the rather chilly goings-on in parts of the US and Canada recently, the US has just had its 4th warmest January on record.

(cue sweating emoticon)

Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 09 March 2014, 18:22:49
(cue sweating emoticon)

(https://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTctk5MxBcKOjrztwHQ6vUQC3DFjr3ufdByJpCvkA-F_8SYO3Mjtw)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 09 March 2014, 22:43:34
The following article appeared in the Canberra Times this morning on the the summer just finished;
http://www.canberratimes.com.au/environment/weather/angry-summers-will-just-get-madder-scientists-warn-20140309-34fhr.html (http://www.canberratimes.com.au/environment/weather/angry-summers-will-just-get-madder-scientists-warn-20140309-34fhr.html)

I also read this morning (but I can't find the reference now) that, despite the rather chilly goings-on in parts of the US and Canada recently, the US has just had its 4th warmest January on record.

(cue sweating emoticon)

Googling got me this.  Not in the US or Canada (http://www.weather.gov/cle/climate_Jan2014) - globally.  Your summer undoubtedly had something to do with that.
Quote
http://www.wunderground.com/news/january-4th-warmest-record-continuing-warming-trend-20140220

Globally, Earth had its fourth warmest January this year since modern temperature record-keeping began in 1880, according to a report released Thursday by the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration.

In January, the global average temperature ? the combined temperature of both land and ocean surfaces ? was 54.8?F, or about 1.17?F above the 20th century average of 53.6?F.

At the same time, if you ask anyone living in the eastern half of the United States, they?re likely to tell you this winter has been brutal. This was particularly true in January, when temperatures dipped below -40?F in International Falls, Minn., and many parts of the Deep South reached the single digits.
...
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 10 March 2014, 01:56:41
I cannot put the URl up as it contains a word some may find offensive.
But,
New App Crunches Scientific Data While You Sleep

(http://www.iflscience.com/sites/www.iflscience.com/files/styles/ifls_large/public/blog/%5Bnid%5D/samsung%20power%20sleep.png?itok=_b9Tf0V8)
photo credit: Samsung/Power Sleep
Claus Adams from the University of Vienna noticed that computers aren?t the only devices able to develop cancer treatments or study climate patterns while the user is away; smartphones are able to get quite a bit of work done as well. He approached Samsung with his idea for an app that would work a lot like BOINC and help facilitate research. They were immediately receptive, and Power Sleep was born.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 10 March 2014, 02:01:30
Watch: Amazing Visualization Of Arctic Ice Over The Last 25 Years
(http://www.iflscience.com/sites/www.iflscience.com/files/styles/ifls_large/public/blog/%5Bnid%5D/arctic%20ice.jpg?itok=pPV_6KPU)
February 19, 2014 | by Lisa Winter

photo credit: NOAA/Mark Tschudi
Yesterday, IFLScience shared a video showing the largest glacial calving event ever recorded on film, as three square miles of thick ice broke off and fell into the ocean. It was met with a lot of skepticism, with many unsure of how one chunk would affect the overall well-being of the planet. With impeccable timing, a video produced by the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA) was presented this past week at the 2014 Meeting of the American Association for the Advancement of Science (AAAS), which helps put into perspective how an isolated glacier calving is related to long-term loss of Arctic ice with very real consequences.

Since January of 1987, NOAA has been tracking the volume of ice up in the Arctic using a combination of satellite data and buoys which provided physical markers of glacier boundaries. The 25 years? worth of data was put together into a jaw-dropping animated video which shows all those years compressed into only one minute.

While area is an important factor of measuring levels of Arctic ice, it can be somewhat misleading. Last fall, reports of a 29% increase in area of ice in the Arctic swept certain news outlets as they erroneously claimed the Arctic had rebounded and claims of climate change were wrong. Unfortunately, new ice means thin ice. When ice has been present for several years, it has enough time to freeze additional layers and create a thick and stable glacier. Young, thin ice is easily melted away, especially in the increasingly-warm conditions that now face the Arctic.

Not all glaciers are bobbing around the ocean, without particularly affecting sea levels at all. Much of the ice, especially the thicker, older ice, is tied up on land. As the glaciers melt and the water runs off into the ocean, increases in sea level become incredibly problematic for people living on islands or shorelines.

Adding to the problem, wildlife that depend on thick Arctic ice to rest or escape predators are forced to go on land where they are in closer proximity to humans. For animals that startle easily such as walruses, this could have devastating effects. Because they live in herds containing several thousand members, if they get spooked and start to stampede back into the water, smaller walruses will be in danger of getting trampled to death.

Unfortunately, the loss of ice in the Arctic is going to compound the heating problem. With less bright white ice and snow to reflect the sunlight, the dark blue water will absorb more light and heat, expediting the loss of ice.

NOAA ranks the age of the ice on a scale of 1-9. Ice that is less than one year old is given a 1 while ice that is at least 9 years old receives a 9. In the video, the newer ice is denoted with dark blue and the older ice is shown as white, with a variable scale showing the different numbers in between. As you can see, the older ice is being shuffled away from the land into the ocean, where it will melt and add to the global sea level. At the beginning of the video, old and thick ice covered over a quarter of the Arctic. As of 2013, it has fallen to a meager 7 percent.

 Video clip (http://www.youtube.com/embed/H-BbPBg3vj8)

Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 10 March 2014, 02:11:28
very scary.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: AvastMH on 10 March 2014, 03:05:30
ouch! That's very sobering stuff.....   :o :(
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Craig on 10 March 2014, 06:08:31
If only it would sober the politicians.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Steeleye on 10 March 2014, 07:22:45
"... sober the politicians."

Does that have the same degree of difficulty as teaching puppies synchronised swimming?

 :o
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Craig on 10 March 2014, 07:58:42
I think puppies could be trained to do that. Of course, it requires a clear message and rewards for obedience.  ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Helen J on 10 March 2014, 11:22:11
500 pages of Chat!
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Caro on 10 March 2014, 11:31:54
A magnificent achievement, chatterers! Don't stop now.  :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Dean on 10 March 2014, 12:48:16
A magnificent achievement, chatterers! Don't stop now.  :)
500 pages of Chat!

I've been watching that number come closer and closer!

My, we ARE a 'chatty' group.

Maybe THIS will be the first of Page 501! ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Helen J on 10 March 2014, 12:51:43
A magnificent achievement, chatterers! Don't stop now.  :)
500 pages of Chat!

I've been watching that number come closer and closer!

My, we ARE a 'chatty' group.

Maybe THIS will be the first of Page 501! ;)

Sorry, not quite  :(
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Kevin on 10 March 2014, 23:49:34
I'm giving a talk - perhaps modeled on Ch. Egr. Melville's 3 hour discourse? - at U of Western Ontario in London (Ont.) May 12th.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Craig on 11 March 2014, 05:42:47
That should be entertaining. Will you be talking about the Jeannette expedition, or one of your own?
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Steeleye on 11 March 2014, 06:33:51
As part of the Canberra Day celebrations (and holiday, of course) every year, there is a hot air balloon festival.  Most of the balloons are rather conventional; some are, shall we say, slightly more eccentric.

This morning, the commuter traffic on one of the main arterial roads was disrupted by the unexpected landing of 'Pegleg Pete', the pirate parrot.

More happy snaps at http://www.canberratimes.com.au/photogallery/act-news/parrot-down-at-balloon-spectacular-20140311-34ja4.html?aggregate=&selectedImage=0 (http://www.canberratimes.com.au/photogallery/act-news/parrot-down-at-balloon-spectacular-20140311-34ja4.html?aggregate=&selectedImage=0).




Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: camiller on 11 March 2014, 06:50:09
He'd be a hit at the Macy's Thanksgiving Day Parade!
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Caro on 11 March 2014, 06:57:02
He's great. ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 11 March 2014, 07:34:35
What a wonderful interruption.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: AvastMH on 11 March 2014, 08:52:01
Mad parrot - I really like it! ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: asterix135 on 11 March 2014, 09:00:20
On an unrelated note, and because it bears repeating on this board

Cats are evil (http://www.thestar.com/news/world/2014/03/11/22pound_cat_attacks_baby_traps_owners_in_bedroom.html)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: AvastMH on 11 March 2014, 09:36:06
their dog will never be able to lift its head in public again.... :o ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: jil on 11 March 2014, 12:21:38
I love the way they've subtitled the cat on the 911 call.  ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Hanibal94 on 11 March 2014, 13:02:31
On an unrelated note, and because it bears repeating on this board

Cats are evil (http://www.thestar.com/news/world/2014/03/11/22pound_cat_attacks_baby_traps_owners_in_bedroom.html)

Woah. I've taken scratches from three different cats, but never anything like that.

Here's (http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=dR_LHlFwlhk) another wild kitty.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 11 March 2014, 13:49:41
"Iz do NOT do leashes"
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Helen J on 11 March 2014, 14:09:41
I suspect Pinky may not find a new home soon ....   :(
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Dean on 11 March 2014, 14:25:14
This should be a fascinating 24 hours in beautiful Niagara Falls, New York.  ::)

Sunny with  Current Temp 50F (12C). 8)

The next 24 hours are supposed to bring temps around 30 (-2C) and 12 - 16" (30-40cms.) snow. It starts with rain tonight and then shifts to snow near dawn ::)

This winter may never end.  ???

Stay tuned!
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 11 March 2014, 14:31:15
I got this from a Facebook friend.  Pure exhilarating surprise fun.

Orca Whales Chase A Speed Boat (https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=10151690809714364)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 11 March 2014, 14:53:13
That was great (apart from woman going on and on about her friend up top).
I wonder if it was the Orca version of the seals riding the bow wave.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Thursday Next on 11 March 2014, 14:56:05
I suspect Pinky may not find a new home soon ....   :(

Might have been a good idea if they'd leash-trained the cat first!  ::)

And as for:
On an unrelated note, and because it bears repeating on this board

Cats are evil (http://www.thestar.com/news/world/2014/03/11/22pound_cat_attacks_baby_traps_owners_in_bedroom.html)

If you read between the lines, I suspect the cat would behave a lot better in a home where the child wasn't allowed to pull its tail.  Most bad-tempered cats have been made that way by the humans they've had the misfortune to live with.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 11 March 2014, 15:14:20
Cats are good predators equipped to kill - if he had wanted to attack the baby, there would have been more than one swipe administered. 

A long time ago, some friends of mine showed up at church one Sunday with their 2-year-old who had a big scratch down his cheek.  When everyone wanted to know what happened, the answer was, "He was learning why it is not a good idea to pull the kitty's tail."  This kitty got pulled and then kicked by big adult feet.  Maybe the kitty is the one that needs rescuing? 
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: asterix135 on 11 March 2014, 15:21:34
Or you could look at how cats & dogs teach their offspring to use stairs (http://www.youtube.com/embed/pgiVPQpI2dI) (youtube popup)

Cats are evil
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Randi on 11 March 2014, 17:23:24
I remember taking a couple of cactus spines out of our cat's paw. She did not try to bite or claw me.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 11 March 2014, 17:29:07
Stop trying to get cat lovers to agree with you, Asterix, and we cat lovers will not try to convert you to our POV.  And don't compare a mama and her puppy in unedited film with 2 adult cats in a greatly edited clip.

Not a matter of truth here, just advice on maintaining friendship with good people who disagree.  Remember, if everyone liked (or hated) the same things, it would be a very boring world.  So enjoy the differences.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: AvastMH on 11 March 2014, 18:06:59
Or you could look at how cats & dogs teach their offspring to use stairs (http://www.youtube.com/embed/pgiVPQpI2dI) (youtube popup)

Cats are evil
I just laughed my head off! ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: camiller on 11 March 2014, 19:53:02
This should be a fascinating 24 hours in beautiful Niagara Falls, New York.  ::)

Sunny with  Current Temp 50F (12C). 8)

The next 24 hours are supposed to bring temps around 30 (-2C) and 12 - 16" (30-40cms.) snow. It starts with rain tonight and then shifts to snow near dawn ::)

This winter may never end.  ???

Stay tuned!



Take care out there with all that snow and cold weather, Dean!  You're really getting the brunt of it.  By the way, is it true that the falls froze? Probably the American side, I imagine.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 11 March 2014, 20:27:06
The question made me curious, and this is from USA Today  http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation-now/2014/03/06/niagara-falls-frozen-moving/6122507/

Me too - and beautiful 50F blue-sky day yesterday, up to 8 inches of white stuff tonight and tomorrow.  I'm really very tired of this winter.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Dean on 11 March 2014, 23:20:34
The ice DID get pretty thick but with the flow it won't stop!
Got covered over pretty good so people THOUGHT it did.
It hasn't been this 'covered' in several years.

Check it out any time:  http://www.earthcam.com/canada/niagarafalls/
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: AvastMH on 12 March 2014, 02:51:57
just checked it whilst you EST-ers are all snoozling in bed - almost looks like rain is falling on the webcam. Temp is 37F so  it might well be rain. Can't see the falls too well in the dark
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Hanibal94 on 12 March 2014, 04:08:24
Stop trying to get cat lovers to agree with you, Asterix, and we cat lovers will not try to convert you to our POV.  And don't compare a mama and her puppy in unedited film with 2 adult cats in a greatly edited clip.

Not a matter of truth here, just advice on maintaining friendship with good people who disagree.  Remember, if everyone liked (or hated) the same things, it would be a very boring world.  So enjoy the differences.

I second that. If I can keep my opinions on cartoon ponies to myself, you can keep your opinion on cats to yourself, buster.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Randi on 12 March 2014, 06:55:04
Thanks, Hanibal!

No one has to like cats, cartoon ponies, or moderators. However, people should either keep their opinions to themselves or express them with respect for other people's feelings and opinions.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Dean on 12 March 2014, 07:44:58
just checked it whilst you EST-ers are all snoozling in bed - almost looks like rain is falling on the webcam. Temp is 37F so  it might well be rain. Can't see the falls too well in the dark

Rain at 7:00am EDT - the snow was just starting. We'll see what develops. At the moment most of the things in the area have either closed or will.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Hanibal94 on 12 March 2014, 09:20:53

Congratulations everybody!

We have transcribed 1 MILLION WR since July 2012!

Huzzah! Huzzah! Huzzah!
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Randi on 12 March 2014, 09:24:36
(http://www.desismileys.com/smileys/desismileys_2593.gif)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 12 March 2014, 12:36:35
(http://www.smileyvault.com/albums/userpics/10902/congrats.gif)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Thursday Next on 12 March 2014, 14:26:42
The question made me curious, and this is from USA Today  http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation-now/2014/03/06/niagara-falls-frozen-moving/6122507/

Me too - and beautiful 50F blue-sky day yesterday, up to 8 inches of white stuff tonight and tomorrow.  I'm really very tired of this winter.

We have been very lucky over the last few days in the UK, with a lot of sunny, spring-like weather.  I hope you get some soon, Janet.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Hanibal94 on 12 March 2014, 15:45:47
Great GIFs, Randi and JJ. Very appropriate for this occasion.  8) 8) 8)

Took us almost 20 months to get this far. But if we can manage about 20.000 WR per week, we should be able to make 2 million in only 1 year.
Meanwhile, our sister projects have speeds (http://daily.zooniverse.org/2014/03/12/stargazing-spikes/) that are making me go insane with envy!
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 12 March 2014, 15:55:38
Our sister projects are wimpy and don't need what we do.  ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Craig on 12 March 2014, 16:00:36
How many WRs per week have we been doing recently?
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 12 March 2014, 16:22:15
I don't know totals - Randi does tracking of individuals on particular ships so she can do her cool announcements of individual WRs, but we can't read them all and her charts don't give totals anywhere.  The OW interface home page only gives total pages.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: AvastMH on 12 March 2014, 16:33:29
How many WRs per week have we been doing recently?
Hi Craig, If Randi doesn't have any stats I might do from back in late Jan/early Feb, I think.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Craig on 12 March 2014, 16:42:26
Thanks, Joan.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: AvastMH on 12 March 2014, 16:44:15
Might be Friday before I can get to them though... Work is an explosion.. :( :( >:(
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Hanibal94 on 12 March 2014, 16:55:27
I haven't been recording it (I only notice because I update my guestimations every week), but we seem to do between 17.000 and 20.000 WR a week.
Sometimes more than 20.000 if the power transcribers put in a little extra.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 12 March 2014, 17:19:31
Since nobody here has any better numbers (we see NOTHING of everyone under the top 12 on each ship), I'd go with your estimates.  Maybe satisfy your itch by keeping a spreadsheet with your total estimates every Wednesday (or whatever day is convenient to your schedule); you can total all the ships for that week and end up in the future with better estimates.  :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Hanibal94 on 13 March 2014, 08:40:42
Since nobody here has any better numbers (we see NOTHING of everyone under the top 12 on each ship), I'd go with your estimates.  Maybe satisfy your itch by keeping a spreadsheet with your total estimates every Wednesday (or whatever day is convenient to your schedule); you can total all the ships for that week and end up in the future with better estimates.  :)

Actually, I do it every Saturday - I only made an exception for this Wednesday because of the 1 million milestone.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 13 March 2014, 09:52:48
Well, then you are the resident expert on answering your question.   8)

I PMed your "million WR" post to Philip, and look what happened on the OW blog.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Hanibal94 on 13 March 2014, 09:59:58
So I noticed! Getting credit from the PTB like that is AWESOME!!!  8) 8) 8)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: camiller on 13 March 2014, 10:02:03
The ice DID get pretty thick but with the flow it won't stop!
Got covered over pretty good so people THOUGHT it did.
It hasn't been this 'covered' in several years.

Check it out any time:  http://www.earthcam.com/canada/niagarafalls/

Quote from Janet Jaquar;
Quote
The question made me curious, and this is from USA Today  http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation-now/2014/03/06/niagara-falls-frozen-moving/6122507/

Stunning photos, Dean and Janet!  On the upside of all this cold weather: standing on a still-frozen Hudson River and watching ice-boats!  Here's a link to a local paper: http://www.registerstar.com/news/article_3c5b7728-a74b-11e3-b851-001a4bcf887a.html?mode=story

How did you do during this last storm?  We escaped most of the precip., but we're back in the deep freeze off and on for the next week.  Spring has got to be around here somewhere....

Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Kathy on 13 March 2014, 10:33:46
Has anyone heard from asterix135 lately?  The whole cat thing got kinda intense -  :(

Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Dean on 13 March 2014, 10:54:07
We are TOUGH!! We survived. The winds were 40+MPH (65+Km) which was the worst, I guess.

Ended up with 14" (38cm) snow in the gauge!

Sunny and 9?F (-13?C) today and it's supposed to be in the 40's (5+C) tomorrow!

Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Craig on 13 March 2014, 10:57:44
Has anyone heard from asterix135 lately?  The whole cat thing got kinda intense -  :(

Yes, I was a bit concerned too. (And some of my best friends were cats)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: asterix135 on 13 March 2014, 11:00:47
Has anyone heard from asterix135 lately?  The whole cat thing got kinda intense -  :(

I was skiing.

Sorry if I offended anyone, but it was all intended in light-hearted fun to me.  "Cats are evil" seems quite self-evidently hyperbolic and I thought that video was quite funny. 

Anyways, must get back to enraging OW denizens transcribing the years 1885-1911 for the Patterson
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Kathy on 13 March 2014, 11:05:20
I think the video is funny too - we have 2 cats (litter mates) and sometimes one will stalk the other around a chair or table - if they could, I think sometimes one would push the other down the stairs.  :P
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: camiller on 13 March 2014, 11:08:06
We are TOUGH!! We survived. The winds were 40+MPH (65+Km) which was the worst, I guess.

Ended up with 14" (38cm) snow in the gauge!

Sunny and 9?F (-13?C) today and it's supposed to be in the 40's (5+C) tomorrow!

You are tough, and hopefully have a good snowblower or snowplow service ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Hanibal94 on 13 March 2014, 12:00:26
I think the video is funny too - we have 2 cats (litter mates) and sometimes one will stalk the other around a chair or table - if they could, I think sometimes one would push the other down the stairs.  :P

The video was alright, I just didn't like the way Asterix was adding "Cats are evil" to every post.

My dad has two cats, and they occasionally do play-fighting. Once, I managed to use a laser pointer to make one of them run into the other.
 The resulting argument was a pleasure to watch.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 13 March 2014, 13:08:36
I think the video is funny too - we have 2 cats (litter mates) and sometimes one will stalk the other around a chair or table - if they could, I think sometimes one would push the other down the stairs.  :P

The video was alright and funny , I just didn't like the way Asterix was adding "Cats are evil" to every post.

My dad has two cats, and they occasionally do play-fighting. Once, I managed to use a laser pointer to make one of them run into the other.
 The resulting argument was a pleasure to watch.

I'm with you Hanibal, and I wasn't particularly bothered by the first assertion nor by the video which was funny-sweet.  The reiteration of 'evil' got to me.  Sorry, Asterix, I'll try to do better; mods are supposed to have more patience and you weren't breaking any rules.  I hope you enjoyed your ski weekend.  :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Michael on 13 March 2014, 13:55:56
As those of you in the ROC (Rest of Canada) know, the denizens of Victoria get especially smug at this time of year. It was annoying when I lived in the ROC and had to suffer through yet another cold spell or snow storm even as spring was just an idea or a nearly forgotten memory. However, now that I am, once again, a citizen of this fair city, let me glory in my smugness. The snowdrops have bloomed and faded a few weeks ago. The blooms on the helibores (spelling?) are nearly done. It was 15 C (59 F) on Sunday and low and behold, two days later, this:

I need not mention that the daffodils are out, the little daisies are everywhere, as well as the many crocus booms. I could go on, but even my smugness has a limit.  ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: camiller on 13 March 2014, 14:18:21
 :D
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Helen J on 13 March 2014, 14:47:46
Looks wonderful  :D
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 13 March 2014, 16:11:14
You offer the rest of us (Canada and adjacent states) a glimpse of hope.  Thanks for sharing the glory.  (The 6 inches of white stuff delivered to us yesterday is surviving nicely under today's very cold bright sun.)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Dean on 14 March 2014, 07:45:53
Michael:  Thanks for the pictures! There IS hope for Spring!!

This was taken Tuesday - the day BEFORE our Blizzard!
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Hanibal94 on 14 March 2014, 08:01:28
And what does it look like now?
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Dean on 14 March 2014, 10:59:24
Hard to tell. Since no one lives on our island the roads will not be plowed. Therefore it's a mile (1.6km) hike into the area and I'm guessing the snow is 1 - 2 feet (30-60cm) deep. Picture was taken by a friend last weekend.

Likely the snow is even with or over the ladders cabled to the side of the cradle.  :-[
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 14 March 2014, 13:14:05
Happy Pi Day, all.  Enjoy 3.14!  :)

(http://solarsystem.nasa.gov/multimedia/gallery/11011.jpg)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 14 March 2014, 14:56:56
D=
r=
A=
S=
V=

Answers to be supplied tomorrow when everybody has had time to do the calcs.
(Hint, 100, 50, 7854, 31415.9, 523598) +/- 3.14159

We do not have Pi day downunder as we use the correct date nomenclature.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Randi on 14 March 2014, 15:33:41
Oops...
HMS Argyll navy torpedo fired into Devonport wharf (http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-cornwall-26577109)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Kathy on 14 March 2014, 15:36:44
I recall some accidental jettisons in the log of one of the ships I worked on - can't remember which  ::)  There was an indication in the log that there were some excited utterances in response - I'll there were some on the ship when this happened!  ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 14 March 2014, 16:04:40
Now we know why they always practiced with expensive dummy torpedoes!!  Learning curves can be embarrassing.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: propriome on 14 March 2014, 17:09:01
:o Ouch!

It remembers me some of the accidents happened to one of the most ill-fated ship in history, the USS William D. Porter (or the Willie Dee as the crew nicknamed her)... how i would like to read her logbooks! ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Randi on 15 March 2014, 02:09:24
 :o ::)
http://www.historynet.com/uss-william-d-porter-the-us-navy-destroyers-service-in-world-war-ii.htm
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: camiller on 15 March 2014, 08:25:14
 8) It's amazing that the crew on those ships were so inexperienced!
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 15 March 2014, 09:54:06
They were building ships faster than they could train crew for them.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: AvastMH on 15 March 2014, 12:39:24
Happy Pi Day, all.  Enjoy 3.14!  :)


Make mine in the following order of preference:
Apple with cloves
apple
apple and blackberry
rhubarb
gooseberry
blackcurrant
cherry
Mmmmmm  pie day
(no wonder I'm so circular...2 pie aaahhhhh!   ;) ::) ;D)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: AvastMH on 15 March 2014, 12:44:55
Now we know why they always practiced with expensive dummy torpedoes!!  Learning curves can be embarrassing.

I  remember the Jed coming back into Hong Kong harbour after a little shooting practice...with 'a junk with a hole in it on tow'. "Can't imagine how that got there Cap'n!"  ::) ::)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 15 March 2014, 13:48:55
 ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Dean on 15 March 2014, 15:09:23
Happy Pi Day, all.  Enjoy 3.14!  :)


Make mine in the following order of preference:
Apple with cloves
apple
apple and blackberry
rhubarb
gooseberry
blackcurrant
cherry
Mmmmmm  pie day
(no wonder I'm so circular...2 pie aaahhhhh!   ;) ::) ;D)

Love them all...but it's the PIZZA Pi that gets me!! ;) ;D ::)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 15 March 2014, 15:29:52
They have a new Pizza downunder called a Cheeseburger Crust Meal.

(http://www.pizzahut.com.au/images/bottom-tiles/King-LTO-4th-March.jpg)

Yuck.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 15 March 2014, 16:35:53
For once, a food monstrosity did not begin in the US.  I found a video with this caption.
"P~ H~'s Cheeseburger Pizza originated in the Middle East and is now making its way to the UK. ..."

Mind you, a different chain here found out about it and introduced it here at the Super Bowl.  :(
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: AvastMH on 15 March 2014, 16:36:50
Ah Dean..ofcourse we don't call them pizza pies over here - but you are right - pizza pie is so scrummy too. :-*
Stuart - you are right too...that's just abnormal... :o
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Michael on 15 March 2014, 17:25:56
Happy Pi Day, all.  Enjoy 3.14!  :)


Make mine in the following order of preference:
Apple with cloves
apple
apple and blackberry
rhubarb
gooseberry
blackcurrant
cherry
Mmmmmm  pie day
(no wonder I'm so circular...2 pie aaahhhhh!   ;) ::) ;D)

Nothing is better than blackberry sour cream. With sufficient inducements I could part with the recipe.  ;)

Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: AvastMH on 16 March 2014, 04:56:46
Happy Pi Day, all.  Enjoy 3.14!  :)


Make mine in the following order of preference:
Apple with cloves
apple
apple and blackberry
rhubarb
gooseberry
blackcurrant
cherry
Mmmmmm  pie day
(no wonder I'm so circular...2 pie aaahhhhh!   ;) ::) ;D)

Nothing is better than blackberry sour cream. With sufficient inducements I could part with the recipe.  ;)

'sufficient inducements'...and they might be ;)?  (i can offer recipes for, crab apple jelly, the family xmas pud, the family flapjack etc etc)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Randi on 16 March 2014, 05:43:14
I could threaten offer to sing to him if he doesn't give you the recipe ::)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Hanibal94 on 16 March 2014, 05:52:53
and I could join in with bagpipes  ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Randi on 16 March 2014, 06:06:49
I LIKE bagpipes!

AND, they would have the advantage of drowning out my singing ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Craig on 16 March 2014, 06:39:02
One of the most surprising bagpipe experiences I had was in Avignon, France. There was a touring Celtic musical group performing in the open air near where my wife and I were having supper. It was not exactly the French atmosphere we were expecting, but it was enjoyable nonetheless. They didn't play "Sur le pont ..."  ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Randi on 16 March 2014, 06:45:26
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_bagpipes ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Kathy on 16 March 2014, 06:53:38
Where is the Queen if pies?  It is of course, the chocolate cream pie, followed closely by fudge nut (pecans or almonds).  Let us also not forget the lemon or key lime varieties.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Randi on 16 March 2014, 07:35:50
My grandmother used to make "milk pie".
I don't know exactly how she made it, but this (http://articles.mcall.com/2010-02-10/features/all-online14cqci9jh.7170167feb10_1_pies-lemon-meringue-crust) sounds close.

She made me lots of lemon meringue pies too, and chess pie - pecan pie without the pecans ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: AvastMH on 16 March 2014, 08:57:05
The milk pie story is delightful. I am not aware of anything of that ilk in the UK...but I have not visited all four corners of the UK yet.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Michael on 16 March 2014, 10:36:44
I could threaten offer to sing to him if he doesn't give you the recipe ::)

As I once learned, nothing succeeds like violence!  ;D

Robbie's Blackberry Sour Cream Cake
Mix
1 1/2 cup flour
1 teaspoon baking powder
1/2 cup sugar
1/2 cup butter
1 egg
1 teaspoon vanilla

Press into spring form pan with glass bottom

Add 4 cups blackberries

Mix
2 cups sour cream
2 egg yolks
1/2 cup sugar
1 teaspoon vanilla

Put on top of the berries.

Bake at 350 F for one hour and maybe a bit more.

Although it is called a cake, we always ate it as a pie. (Robbie was my mother.) Sorry, but the measurements are imperial. They should be weights, not measures for those of you down under, and they should be metric for everyone else. Deal with it.   ;)

My sister has masses of blackberry bushes on her farm, so this is a favourite treat on a hot summer's day.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Randi on 16 March 2014, 11:39:27
 ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Dean on 16 March 2014, 11:57:19
Then again, there's always Shepherd's Pie!! ;D

Someone did Pi Day with our local Football Team!
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 16 March 2014, 12:54:49
Teams plural.  I'm saving that one for next year.  ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 16 March 2014, 14:38:13
La fheile Padraig sona dhuit! to you all individually and
La fheile Padraig sona dhaoibh! to you as a group.

Ca mbeidh tu ag fliuchadh na seamroige?

 FYI see here (http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/local-national/northern-ireland/st-patricks-day-as-google-doodle-marks-irish-national-holiday-here-are-10-things-you-didnt-know-about-him-30097036.html)

Just noticed I had ? marks in place of the ' mark. Changed now
(opps)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: AvastMH on 16 March 2014, 16:12:05
I could threaten offer to sing to him if he doesn't give you the recipe ::)

As I once learned, nothing succeeds like violence!  ;D

Robbie's Blackberry Sour Cream Cake
Mix
1 1/2 cup flour
1 teaspoon baking powder
1/2 cup sugar
1/2 cup butter
1 egg
1 teaspoon vanilla

Press into spring form pan with glass bottom

Add 4 cups blackberries

Mix
2 cups sour cream
2 egg yolks
1/2 cup sugar
1 teaspoon vanilla

Put on top of the berries.

Bake at 350 F for one hour and maybe a bit more.

Although it is called a cake, we always ate it as a pie. (Robbie was my mother.) Sorry, but the measurements are imperial. They should be weights, not measures for those of you down under, and they should be metric for everyone else. Deal with it.   ;)

My sister has masses of blackberry bushes on her farm, so this is a favourite treat on a hot summer's day.

Oh my!.....it sounds DELICIOUS...thanks! really! :P ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: AvastMH on 16 March 2014, 16:16:23
?L? fh?ile P?draig sona dhuit!? to you all individually and
?L? fh?ile P?draig sona dhaoibh!? to you as a group.

"C? mbeidh t? ag fliuchadh na seamr?ige?"

 FYI see here (http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/local-national/northern-ireland/st-patricks-day-as-google-doodle-marks-irish-national-holiday-here-are-10-things-you-didnt-know-about-him-30097036.html)

One of my colleagues is in Dublin for St Patrick's Day...enjoying the craik! ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 16 March 2014, 18:28:58
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-QI4xEY_TeF4/UyYzK9hsTdI/AAAAAAAADZM/-QaghE_oBP4/w687-h449-no/La+Shona+Fheile+Padraig.JPG)

La Shona Fheile Padraig     (Happy St. Patrick's Day)
Saol fada chugat     (Long life to you)


Or so I'm told they mean by Google Translate.  Technically I'm early, my time, posting this.  It feels like I'm late - Chicago's big downtown parade was yesterday and the big south side parade this afternoon.  In this city, everyone is Irish on St. Pat's.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 17 March 2014, 00:52:21
Ships of the sky.
NATS, a UK air traffic control company, decided to compile data from 48 hours worth of air traffic over Europe. On a typical late July day, there are approximately 30,000 airplanes in Europe?s airspace; a quarter of which are over the UK alone.

The video has been sped up to be about 1440 times faster than real life, reducing 48 hours down to 2 minutes. As you see the blue lights start to blend into one another and show just how crowded the airspace really is, it begins to make perfect sense that air traffic controllers and airline pilots are routinely on the list for most stressful occupations.  Each airplane must be accounted for and its trajectory must be expertly guided in order to complete its journey safely.

http://vimeo.com/moogaloop.swf?clip_id=88093956 (http://vimeo.com/moogaloop.swf?clip_id=88093956)

Scary, and our Navigators usually only have to worry about not hitting the wharf.   ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: AvastMH on 17 March 2014, 03:12:49
Don't I know it - Oxford is under the flight path for a huge number of transatlantic flights whether landing at Luton, Stanstead, Heathrow, Gatwick or London Central  :(
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 17 March 2014, 03:14:54
I found something similar for the lower 48.  They are interesting to watch, I'm not sure why.

https://www.youtube.com/embed/d9r3H4iHFZk
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Kathy on 17 March 2014, 04:44:16
SNOW AGAIN!
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 17 March 2014, 05:36:25
Don't I know it - Oxford is under the flight path for a huge number of transatlantic flights whether landing at Luton, Stanstead, Heathrow, Gatwick or London Central  :(

How do you think Caro feels?
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Steeleye on 17 March 2014, 05:44:56
Just occasionally - and I do mean 'occasionally' - a piece of spam arrives that is actually entertaining reading.  The spam reproduced below, from a 'Rose Johnson', falls into the well-known Nigerian scamming category, but the spammer put in a huge effort, appealing to my ethics (please don't laugh!), my heart strings (a husband who died rapidly, her own cancer and strokes), a bit of religion (Islam and born-again Christian to make sure the major bases are covered), and my fiscal gullibility (but it was only 9 million US).

It was such a major literary effort that I was almost tempted to send them a small sum for trying; however, I refrained.  A bit lengthy, but here it is:

I apologize if the contents in this mail are contrary to your moral ethics which I feel may be of great disturbance To your personal life, but I feel quite safe dealing with you. Though this medium (Internet) has been greatly abused I choose to reach you through it because it remains the fastest, surest and most secured medium of communication.However, this correspondence is purely private, and it should be treated as such. I am contacting you based on Trust and confidentiality I have reposed higher confidence in your ability to handle this matter perfectly for my sake.I am serious minded person. I am the above named person from Liberia. I am married to Mr. Greg Johnson who worked with Embassy here in Cambodia for nine years before he died in the year 2008 We were married for eleven years without a child.He died after a brief illness that lasted for only four days. Before his death we were both born again Christian. I married him because is a Christian why his people are Muslim
 
 
Since his death I decided not to re-marry or get a child outside my matrimonial home which the Bible is against. When my late husband was alive he deposited the sum of $9.Million (Nine Million U.S. Dollars) a financial Bank this money is still in a financial Bank. Recently, my Doctor told me that I would not last for the next two to three Months due to cancer problem the one that disturbs me most is my stroke sickness. Having known my condition I decided To keep this fund in the vault I want an organization or an individual that will use this fund for orphanages, widows, Propagating the word of God and to endeavor that the house of God is maintained The Bible made us to understand that Blessed is the hand that grieves. I took this decision because I don't have any child that will inherit this money I will introduce you to my family lawyer that will prepare an authorization letter of claiming the funds  my happiness is that I lived a life of a worthy Christian . Whoever ! that wants to serve him in spirit and truth. Please always be prayerful all through your life. Any delay in your reply will give me Room in sourcing another person for this same purpose Please assure me that you will act accordingly as I stated Herein hoping to receive your reply and Remain blessed in the Lord Please send me your complete information,

Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Kathy on 17 March 2014, 07:44:58
It is indeed the most masterful version of that scam I think I have ever seen.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Thursday Next on 17 March 2014, 09:15:56
Don't I know it - Oxford is under the flight path for a huge number of transatlantic flights whether landing at Luton, Stanstead, Heathrow, Gatwick or London Central  :(

How do you think Caro feels?

I lived in West London as a child.  We were under one of the main flight paths for Heathrow (depending on wind direction).  I don't think anyone in the family was at all bothered by it.  If we were out in the garden on a sunny day, we used to enjoy identifying the planes as they flew overhead.  Occasionally the sound would be drowned out by an express train on the main line between London and the West Country as the house backed on to the railway.  There can be hardly anywhere in West London where you don't get trains, planes or a busy road.  Maybe that explains why to this day I find total silence rather disconcerting!
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Dean on 17 March 2014, 10:37:36
For something a bit more 'realtime' try:

http://www.flightradar24.com/

or if you only wish to follow a couple flights - such as a spouse, family member, friend, etc  use www.flightaware.com

Have fun! But not TOO much or you'll miss all the fun at OW!!!!!! ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Hanibal94 on 17 March 2014, 14:13:24
Actually, I found something more fun than watching planes: Spotting Nightjars. (http://nightjar.exeter.ac.uk/story/games)

My top score, for the egg-hunting one, is attached. I dare you all to beat it!
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 17 March 2014, 15:46:17
1.79sec
pos 203
First go for an oldie and only 10 min after waking up.  :D
Better times to follow (I hope)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Steeleye on 17 March 2014, 22:18:13
I can't se a forum board for "How on Earth do I do this in Word?' so I'll ask the coffee/tea drinkers in the Chat room.

I am trying to format a raw USN ship file from OW3 (the 'Bear', actually).  The position and lat/long information are combined with the descriptive location in a single line that looks like (for example):

Position: 40.6 -74.0 Brooklyn Navy Yard

Ideally, I would like to turn this into:

Lat 40.6, Long -74.0
Brooklyn Navy Yard

although I would also settle for:
Lat 40.6, Long -74.0 Brooklyn Navy Yard
    which can at least be plotted by Journey Planner.

As a first step, I can easily use 'Replace all' to get to:
Lat 40.6 -74.0 Brooklyn Navy Yard

I would like the next stage be to replace 'Lat 40.6 ' with 'Lat 40.6, Long ', which I thought I would be able to do using wildcards. However, while I can find  'Lat 40.6 ' by searching for 'Lat * ' (the asterisk is the wild card), I can't work out how to retain the '40.6' when I carry out the replace.

I do have a way round the problem (which I won't bore you with), but it's a very clunky sort of fix.

Is there a Word guru out there who can save me from impending insanity?

Cheers,
Steeleye

Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Maikel on 18 March 2014, 02:42:07
Not a Word guru, more a general suggestion.

Have a look at using regular expressions for finding and replacing.
That is, if Word supports it. :-\

Perhaps not easy to understand, but once you get the hang of it, regular expressions are very powerful.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: AvastMH on 18 March 2014, 03:09:36
Actually, I found something more fun than watching planes: Spotting Nightjars. (http://nightjar.exeter.ac.uk/story/games)

My top score, for the egg-hunting one, is attached. I dare you all to beat it!

Hopeless - program didn't end properly so no idea of how long I took - but it was a loooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooottttttttttttttttttt longer than you and Stuart!  8)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Steeleye on 18 March 2014, 04:10:59
Not a Word guru, more a general suggestion.

Have a look at using regular expressions for finding and replacing.
That is, if Word supports it. :-\

Perhaps not easy to understand, but once you get the hang of it, regular expressions are very powerful.

Word help doesn't recognise 'regular expression'. The help for wildcard search and replace doesn't suggest that it will do what I want.  It looks like I'm stuck with the clunky approach unless someone out there in Chat-land comes up with something inspired.

 :'(

Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Maikel on 18 March 2014, 04:23:08
Ditch Microsoft Word and switch to LibreOffice Writer. ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: studentforever on 18 March 2014, 04:25:35
Never used it myself but word has 'macros'. I volunteered at the RNIB transcription centre for many years and one of the girls there had written a suite of macros to clean up word files before formatting them for braille.  That system seems pretty powerful but I've never felt the urge to dive into it myself so I can't help with the detail.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Craig on 18 March 2014, 08:03:39
In Excel, I was able to change "[blank] -"   to   ", Long [blank]-"

This assumes there will always be a minus sign in front of the Long. I haven't seen the Bear cross over the International Date Line but it might have before I began transcribing it. This operation may also be possible in Word.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Michael on 18 March 2014, 11:03:25
I can't se a forum board for "How on Earth do I do this in Word?' so I'll ask the coffee/tea drinkers in the Chat room.

I am trying to format a raw USN ship file from OW3 (the 'Bear', actually).  The position and lat/long information are combined with the descriptive location in a single line that looks like (for example):

Position: 40.6 -74.0 Brooklyn Navy Yard

Ideally, I would like to turn this into:

Lat 40.6, Long -74.0
Brooklyn Navy Yard

although I would also settle for:
Lat 40.6, Long -74.0 Brooklyn Navy Yard
    which can at least be plotted by Journey Planner.

As a first step, I can easily use 'Replace all' to get to:
Lat 40.6 -74.0 Brooklyn Navy Yard

I would like the next stage be to replace 'Lat 40.6 ' with 'Lat 40.6, Long ', which I thought I would be able to do using wildcards. However, while I can find  'Lat 40.6 ' by searching for 'Lat * ' (the asterisk is the wild card), I can't work out how to retain the '40.6' when I carry out the replace.

I do have a way round the problem (which I won't bore you with), but it's a very clunky sort of fix.

Is there a Word guru out there who can save me from impending insanity?

Cheers,
Steeleye

Steeleye

   For something like this, you need;
GAWK (http://gnuwin32.sourceforge.net/packages/gawk.htm)

   You can run it from a Windows Command prompt, and you would work on the text file. If the file is a Word file you would save it as text and then you would use awk to convert that file.

   I don't know if you have anything in the file other than lines with Position: in them. However, I will assume you do, and your file looks like this;

Position: 40.6 -74.0 Brooklyn Navy Yard
Someone was promoted.
Someone else was transferred.
Position: -40.6 74.0 Brooklyn Navy Yard
Someone was discharged.

Notice that I put in positive and negative Lats and Longs, and that you want Lats and Longs to be N/S and E/W.

I then run the awk script LatLon.awk on the file data.txt

C:\ gawk -f LatLon.awk data.txt
Lat 40.6N Lon 74W
Brooklyn Navy Yard
Someone was promoted.
Someone else was transferred.
Lat 40.6S Lon 74.0E
Brooklyn Navy Yard
Someone was discharged.


I made the file and the need for N/S and E/W a little more complex than your needs to show you how powerful AWK can be. It takes a bit of work to learn to use it, but it is very powerful and useful. I have been using it for years.

Here is the AWK script LatLon.awk

#File: LatLon.awk

#  This script formats and prints the lines with the ship's Position, and prints the other lines unchanged.
#  The position lines have the format;
#Position: 40.6 -74.0 Brooklyn Navy Yard

/^Position:/    {  Lat = $2   # Lat is the second word in the line.
                   Lon = $3   # Lon is the third word in the line.
                   if (Lat < 0) {
                      Lat = sprintf("%sS", Lat*-1)  #Negative lats are South
                   } else {
                      Lat = sprintf("%sN", Lat)
                   }
                   if (Lon < 0) {
                      Lon = sprintf("%sW", Lon*-1) # Negative lons are North
                   } else {
                      Lon = sprintf("%sE", Lon)
                   }
                   Location = $4   # The Location is in Words 4 to the end (NF)
                   for (i=5; i<=NF;i++) {
                      Location = sprintf("%s %s", Location, $i)  # Here we gather all the position words.
                   }
                   printf("Lat %s Lon %s\n", Lat, Lon)  # Here we print the Lat Lon on one line
                   printf("%s\n", Location)  # Here we print the Location on the following line.
                }

!/Position:/    { print $0}  # We print lines that aren't a Position


If you don't want the N/S and E/W, the green lines aren't needed.
If your text doesn't have anything other than Position data, then the very last line is irrelevant.

If you have any questions, or need any help, you can send me a PM.

Michael


Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: philip.brohan on 18 March 2014, 11:11:54
I suspect that it's easiest if I just change the format of the raw ship files. I've changed the dump format to now say:
'Position: Lat   40.7, Lon  -74.0, new york new york' or similar
I hope this will be easier to edit (and Journey Plotter compliant).

Janet is testing the new format.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 18 March 2014, 11:54:40
I'm sending Philip's new raw data for Bear by email.  Let us know if it is easier to format.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Craig on 18 March 2014, 12:06:55
Does this file include recent transcriptions?
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 18 March 2014, 12:27:49
I don't know the date of last included transcription.  But I do know it includes everything in Philip's computer, including the page urls for what isn't yet looked at by transcribers.

You should have it by now email.  :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Kathy on 18 March 2014, 13:02:32
http://sploid.gizmodo.com/hilarious-slow-motion-video-turns-neil-degrasse-tyson-i-1546343331

This made me almost fall out of my chair -  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Steeleye on 19 March 2014, 04:08:10
Philip's new file for Bear works fine and is definitely much easier to handle than the previous version.  Many thanks to Michael (mapurves) and Craig (craig!) for their suggestions and Janet and Phil for coming up with th new, improved file.

Cheers,
Howard (Steeleye)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Craig on 19 March 2014, 04:47:01
I am curious to know what you will be doing with the Bear file, Howard?

Craig
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Steeleye on 19 March 2014, 05:42:31
I am curious to know what you will be doing with the Bear file, Howard?

Craig

Formatting the raw text file received from OW so it can be sent out for history editing.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Craig on 19 March 2014, 06:01:40
A whole other parallel industry that I am only vaguely aware of.  ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: AvastMH on 19 March 2014, 06:49:54
http://sploid.gizmodo.com/hilarious-slow-motion-video-turns-neil-degrasse-tyson-i-1546343331

This made me almost fall out of my chair -  ;D ;D

I'd probably laugh Kathy - but - erm - who is he please? (I'm gonna look such an idiot aren't I - he's probably mayor of New York or something similar)  :-[ :-\
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Hanibal94 on 19 March 2014, 07:39:24
He's an astrophysicist and well known science communicator. See Wiki  (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neil_deGrasse_Tyson)for details.
He even has his own meme. (http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/neil-degrasse-tyson-reaction)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Kathy on 19 March 2014, 08:22:24
He gets VERY enthusiastic when talking about science - in this clip, he was answering the question "who's the greatest physicist in history?" His answer is Sir Isaac Newton, and he starts talking very fast.  The clip I posted is his answer slowed down by about 100 percent -
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Randi on 19 March 2014, 08:25:09
I have read - and enjoyed - a book by him but I never heard him speak, so I kind of missed the joke.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: AvastMH on 19 March 2014, 09:16:53
Ohhhh - right - thanks folks - n  o  w     I      u  n  d   e  r  s   t   a   n  d (sorry - didn't want to type so fast you couldn't read my words  ;))
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Kathy on 19 March 2014, 10:00:52
 ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Maikel on 19 March 2014, 10:22:09
One hundred years after the start of WW1, two people died today in Ieper, Belgium, by a WW1 grenade.

http://www.deredactie.be/cm/vrtnieuws.english/News/140319_ieper (http://www.deredactie.be/cm/vrtnieuws.english/News/140319_ieper)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 19 March 2014, 10:59:37
They count among the honored war dead.  Rest in Peace.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Hanibal94 on 19 March 2014, 13:21:08
Good evening OW.

Here's something nice: Superman with a GoPro camera (http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=H0Ib9SwC7EI)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Dean on 19 March 2014, 22:59:54
 ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Michael on 20 March 2014, 22:02:34
Just to show you how we do forecasts in Canada:

http://www.cbc.ca/player/Shows/Shows/The+Rick+Mercer+Report/ID/2441559696/

Hang in there you people in the cold!  :D
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 20 March 2014, 22:20:05
That's wonderful!!  And Canadian forecasters are good - near the Lakes, anything more than 3 days is guess-work.   ::)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Dean on 21 March 2014, 00:41:14
Rick Mercer is one of the best shows on Television!

He always does something interesting and is willing to try almost anything. Usually VERY educational - and FUNNY!!! ;)

Take some time to wander around the web site.

'(But not Toooooooo much or you'll miss the fun here!! AND not get your shipwork done!! ::) )
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Randi on 21 March 2014, 02:48:23
That is just GREAT!!!
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Craig on 21 March 2014, 10:20:21
Loved it!  ;D ;D ;D

It's currently +3 but the high on Sunday will be -7.  Next Thursday's forecast high is +2  ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: AvastMH on 21 March 2014, 19:22:45
Tonight we are having 'Sport Relief' day progs on the telly. Lots of people do sporty things (as they can/are able) and collect donations to support children around the world  to improve their health, education etc.  It is really heartwarming as an event - seeing so much care and charity, but also terrifying to see what poor people have to do to cope with life.  So far the total is about ?46 million...but Sport Relief lasts all weekend! What a difference we can make.   8)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Thursday Next on 22 March 2014, 12:09:46
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-25051663

This article is about a crowdsourcing project that's been set up to look at satellite images to try and identify any traces of the missing Malaysian Airways plane.  (Just looked at over 1000 tiles of blank ocean and cloud!)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 22 March 2014, 12:27:16
That's Tomnod; I get their notices of new searches, altho this one leaves me frustrated - their server keeps getting overwhelmed by the huge volume of volunteers.  And telling them which patches of ocean are blank saves the search planes and ships a lot of fuel.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Thursday Next on 22 March 2014, 12:59:09
Yes, it's good to think that even noting tile after tile as blank is of some help!
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Steeleye on 23 March 2014, 04:13:51
This week's spam effort, along the lines of the Nigerian 'send me all your bank details' originals, comes from Captain Tom Hall of the US Army in Afghanistan, and reads:

I am Cpt.Tom Hall, am currently with 395th Combat Sustainment Support Battalion, stationed here at FOB Salerno Camp in Khowst Afghanistan as part of the troops still remaining to complete the later part of the war plan.

Please I seek your urgent help this day to assist me with the safe keeping of two military trunk boxes and I am assuring you that this project am about to bring to the table will be of mutual interest for the both of us.I know you do not know me but i will explain more about this when you reply me.

Kindly get back to me ASAP so I can feed you with more information on how this project would be carried out.

God Bless,
Cpt Hall
US Army

These characters are definitely getting more inventive, although the grammar still needs a bit of work.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: AvastMH on 23 March 2014, 07:08:54
That's a new one on me! ::) :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Kathy on 23 March 2014, 14:33:47
One of my favorites is from the FBI.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Randi on 23 March 2014, 14:35:37
 ::)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 24 March 2014, 16:28:49
I woke this morning to news of a freak train accident (http://www.nbcchicago.com/news/local/cta-blue-line-crash-ohare--251990601.html), the type of thing I thought would never happen.  The Blue Line 'L' arrived at its end-of-the-line station at O'Hare Airport at full speed, jumped right over the track bumper and up onto the platform and on up escalator.  At 3 am, which is why the escalator was empty and no one was caught underneath.  People waiting on the platform would not have been standing at the head of the track, but 32 passengers were injured - none seriously, thank heavens.  Speculation is, the driver fell asleep - but there are trip bars on the track, it still should have slowed down.

This is the kind of thing I don't want on my public trans system!!

(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-Kr3a9QnYtyA/UzClQRYbdoI/AAAAAAAADc0/VpoMPLaR1rU/w605-h339-no/L+Ohare+accident+1.JPG)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Michael on 24 March 2014, 17:57:21
My goodness it is lucky that no-one was killed! That image reminds me of a scene in Speed with Sandra Bullock. (There are other movies, too, that have subway trains crashing up through the pavement etc. Maybe one of the Die Hard movies ??) I image the authorities will be looking at their various "fail safe" trips etc.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 24 March 2014, 18:59:16
Head of the Union says, "safety measures don't always work right."  NO body is going to agree with him, except maybe the driver.  And the PTB called in the NTSB right away, so no one can bury the evidence to save their own face.  That's the best we can hope for.  Injuries were blessedly light - the only one still in the hospital for an overnight stay was, according to the hospital, kept for a pre-existing condition they noticed something wrong with.  And an enormously busy station like this has security cams everywhere, which helps.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: AvastMH on 25 March 2014, 02:52:09
Phew - glad to hear this was not a major incident - how lucky is that?  3am and 3pm are the most common times of day for accidents - our ciurcadian rhythm leaves us at our most weary points in those hours.  It reminds me of the Moorgate disaster in London years and years ago: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moorgate_tube_crash
Sorry to see the dreadful mud slide in Snohomish - that sounds like it may well have claimed lives.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 25 March 2014, 06:35:57
Now that is a disaster that is still getting worse - no one is just relaxing and investigating.  Latest count, 14 dead and 176 missing, and one small river town vanished completely.  And the river is turning into a lake behind the mud dam and threatening all towns down river with a huge flash flood filled with mud and debris when it finally breaks thru the dam.  I find this article helpful, showing photos of the town of Oso before and the slide after.

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http://www.nytimes.com/2014/03/25/us/search-continues-after-washington-state-landslide.html
A compiled census of homes and structures in the slide zone, also released Monday by county officials, identified 49 building or residential sites, 25 of which are believed to have been occupied full time.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Kathy on 25 March 2014, 11:12:36
What is this white stuff falling from the sky?  :o
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: camiller on 25 March 2014, 11:18:56
Wow, Kathy, y'all are really getting socked this winter! 
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Kathy on 25 March 2014, 11:25:09
This is just getting ridiculous!
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 25 March 2014, 11:45:30
I don't know, but we also got a new sprinkling of white stuff the last 2 nights.  I will say, the sun comes out in the freezing daytime to enhance the sparkling beauty.  I've just had my fill of that sparkling beauty by now.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Dean on 25 March 2014, 12:13:46
It's Here, It's Here!!!

The Tardis we have all wanted!!!!

I know we aren't supposed to 'advertise' so PM me and I'll send details!
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: AvastMH on 25 March 2014, 12:22:43
want one! ;D ;D 8)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Michael on 25 March 2014, 13:12:51
We have a Tardis cookie jar. When you close the lid after taking your cookies, you get that familiar Tardis sound (and everyone within hearing distance knows what you have just done). Sadly, the Tardis isn't bigger on the inside than the outside; I was hoping to store my Christmas cakes in it, as well as bushels of cookies and other treats but, sadly, no such luck.  :(
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Craig on 25 March 2014, 14:35:42
You can't just bring back last year's (before you ate it, I mean) ???  ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 25 March 2014, 18:48:17
After a lovely day on Fort Denison in Sydney Harbour, followed by heavy rain we had this lovely sunset.

I was away from home when the heavy rain fell 60km down the road.
The highest rainfall recorded by the Bureau of Meteorology overnight was in Barrengarry in the Southern Highlands with 224 millimetres
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 25 March 2014, 20:05:17
beauty after tempest.  :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Kathy on 25 March 2014, 20:56:41
Beautiful  :-*
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Hanibal94 on 26 March 2014, 01:06:06
The calm after the storm. I like it!
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: AvastMH on 26 March 2014, 02:33:53
Fab sunset - the sort you do tend to get after a whopper storm. 224mm is about 9" - that's a lot of agua!
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: jil on 26 March 2014, 04:36:34
224mm! I'll never complain about the British rain again.... well at least not for a day or so  ::)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 26 March 2014, 06:15:43
Hi Jil
I think the difference is we get 224 mm infrequently and you get 22 point 4 mm frequently.
Speaking of rain it's just started poring down at home. %^(

Looks like more OW tomorrow.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 26 March 2014, 06:43:44
Here is a puzzle from NASA that has me very curious.  Other than being of human construction in a river delta or estuary, I have no idea where in the world it is, and whether it is of fish farms or salt evaporation ponds.

http://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/blogs/earthmatters/2014/03/24/march-2014-puzzler/

(http://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/blogs/earthmatters/files/2014/03/march2014puzzler.jpg)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Dean on 26 March 2014, 07:56:48
After a lovely day on Fort Denison in Sydney Harbour, followed by heavy rain we had this lovely sunset.

I was away from home when the heavy rain fell 60km down the road.
The highest rainfall recorded by the Bureau of Meteorology overnight was in Barrengarry in the Southern Highlands with 224 millimetres

Breathtaking!!   8)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Kathy on 26 March 2014, 11:40:53
I think that is one of the mouths of the Nile
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Craig on 26 March 2014, 14:41:22
... or an unfinished tiling job.  ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Steeleye on 26 March 2014, 16:27:54
The good burghers of Queensland seem to be caught between a rock and a hard place this year.

On the one hand, there is the largest ever drought-declared area, with 80% of the state declared to be in drought:
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-03-07/qld-drought--most-widespread-ever-recorded/5306044 (http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-03-07/qld-drought--most-widespread-ever-recorded/5306044)

... and on the other hand, Yeppoon (central Queensland coast) has just had 500mm of rain (20 inches, if you prefer pounds, shillings and pence) in the last two days:
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-03-27/torrential-rain-fuels-flash-flooding-fears-in-central-queensland/5348290 (http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-03-27/torrential-rain-fuels-flash-flooding-fears-in-central-queensland/5348290)

Wonderful.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Kathy on 26 March 2014, 16:29:36
Truly feast or famine -
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 26 March 2014, 17:02:13
Glut or famine more like - feasts are not destructive.  Take care of yourself out there.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: studentforever on 26 March 2014, 17:20:58
Two techniques to break a drought - appoint a Minister for Drought ( tried in UK), second have a visit by HM Queen Elizabeth (successful in Africa).  Since HM is cutting back on overseas visits (well she is pushing 90) I would suggest the Minister.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Steeleye on 26 March 2014, 19:21:59
But is the function of a Minister for Drought to promote the drought or to minimise it.  I guess it depends where most of his/her re-election money comes from.  Cynic? Me?

Since Caro has returned to these shores, it's been raining everywhere.  Her last email to me suggested that she should be paid for her drought reduction services.  However, I'm not certain that the citizens of Yeppoon are entirely grateful for their 500mm of the damp stuff.

Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Randi on 27 March 2014, 02:14:12
Two techniques to break a drought - appoint a Minister for Drought ( tried in UK), second have a visit by HM Queen Elizabeth (successful in Africa).  Since HM is cutting back on overseas visits (well she is pushing 90) I would suggest the Minister.

Don't forget the basics: Wash windows / car ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: AvastMH on 27 March 2014, 02:35:22
Here is a puzzle from NASA that has me very curious.  Other than being of human construction in a river delta or estuary, I have no idea where in the world it is, and whether it is of fish farms or salt evaporation ponds.

http://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/blogs/earthmatters/2014/03/24/march-2014-puzzler/


looks like salt pans to me. Seen similar things on Lanzarote - only most of theirs are pink...
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Hanibal94 on 27 March 2014, 03:53:36
Howard's not the only one who gets Engrish spam emails.
Here's one I received today:

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Hello!

I am Mrs. Christine V. Borzakovsky, Diagnose of Cancer and few weeks to live, I wish to make a donation of Twelve Million Pounds (12,000,000.00 GBP) to you concerning my LAST WILL to setup a Charity Organization to help the poor children and cancer patients in your local community. Advocacy is all about helping children get their voices heard, and having their rights and basic needs met. Treatment is simple and cheap, but millions of children have died through lack of it. One of the gravest effects of war is the way it disrupts and destroys children?s education; it?s really bewildering and scary time for many children who remain the most vulnerable victims and subjects of war crimes.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Michael on 27 March 2014, 11:10:06
Howard's not the only one who gets Engrish spam emails.
Here's one I received today:

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Hello!

I am Mrs. Christine V. Borzakovsky, Diagnose of Cancer and few weeks to live, I wish to make a donation of Twelve Million Pounds (12,000,000.00 GBP) to you concerning my LAST WILL to setup a Charity Organization to help the poor children and cancer patients in your local community. Advocacy is all about helping children get their voices heard, and having their rights and basic needs met. Treatment is simple and cheap, but millions of children have died through lack of it. One of the gravest effects of war is the way it disrupts and destroys children?s education; it?s really bewildering and scary time for many children who remain the most vulnerable victims and subjects of war crimes.

Hannibal: If, for some reason, you are unable to help this poor woman, let me know and I am sure I would be willing.  ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Thursday Next on 27 March 2014, 15:29:22
Howard's not the only one who gets Engrish spam emails.
Here's one I received today:

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Hello!

I am Mrs. Christine V. Borzakovsky, Diagnose of Cancer and few weeks to live, I wish to make a donation of Twelve Million Pounds (12,000,000.00 GBP) to you concerning my LAST WILL to setup a Charity Organization to help the poor children and cancer patients in your local community. Advocacy is all about helping children get their voices heard, and having their rights and basic needs met. Treatment is simple and cheap, but millions of children have died through lack of it. One of the gravest effects of war is the way it disrupts and destroys children?s education; it?s really bewildering and scary time for many children who remain the most vulnerable victims and subjects of war crimes.

That's a good one!  She can't even make up her mind whether she's trying to help children who are victims of war crimes or cancer!  ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Hanibal94 on 27 March 2014, 15:56:43
Howard's not the only one who gets Engrish spam emails.
Here's one I received today:

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Hello!

I am Mrs. Christine V. Borzakovsky, Diagnose of Cancer and few weeks to live, I wish to make a donation of Twelve Million Pounds (12,000,000.00 GBP) to you concerning my LAST WILL to setup a Charity Organization to help the poor children and cancer patients in your local community. Advocacy is all about helping children get their voices heard, and having their rights and basic needs met. Treatment is simple and cheap, but millions of children have died through lack of it. One of the gravest effects of war is the way it disrupts and destroys children's education; it's really bewildering and scary time for many children who remain the most vulnerable victims and subjects of war crimes.

That's a good one!  She can't even make up her mind whether she's trying to help children who are victims of war crimes or cancer!  ;D

One thing I just realized: Why can't she just donate the 12 million pounds herself? There's already loads of great nonprofits fighting cancer and helping war crime victims.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Randi on 27 March 2014, 16:36:22
Scroll down to: This Day in History - Permanent United States Navy Established (1794) (http://www.thefreedictionary.com/)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 27 March 2014, 16:52:22
Interestingly, the Department of the Navy doesn't agree with the Free Dictionary.

They have an internal holiday called 'Navy Birthday' celebrating the forming the Continental Navy on 13 October 1775, all of those ships sold and the officers and crews dismissed after the Revolutionary War. 
"The Constitution of the United States, ratified in 1789, empowered Congress "to provide and maintain a navy." Acting on this authority, Congress ordered the construction and manning of six frigates in 1794, and the War Department administered naval affairs from that year until Congress established the Department of the Navy on 30 April 1798."

http://www.history.navy.mil/birthday.htm
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Randi on 27 March 2014, 17:20:46
 ::)
OK, it looks like we can celebrate again next month ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Hanibal94 on 28 March 2014, 01:34:28
::)
OK, it looks like we can celebrate again next month ;)

I think you have spotted an ulterior motive, Randi.  ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Randi on 28 March 2014, 02:18:05
 ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 28 March 2014, 02:35:25
Could I suggest to the PTB that the default for post listings be latest post at the top of the list. (ie the box checked)
I have been told it in not checked by default.

(Ulterior motive, it makes my Concord crew list look sensible)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Randi on 28 March 2014, 02:46:27
And wrecks havoc with almost everyone else's lists ::)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 28 March 2014, 03:39:59
Do you seriously mean most people have to scroll down the list to find the latest post, or have I misunderstood something?
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Randi on 28 March 2014, 03:50:15
If I am in a board (like Dockside Cafe), I click on the Last post icon to go directly to the last post / last unread post in a topic.

If I am at the top level, I click on the topic name to go directly to the last post / last unread post in a topic.

No scrolling needed.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Hanibal94 on 28 March 2014, 04:04:43
I would also support keeping it the way it is. I think Stuart is the only one who does reverse order for his lists - and as an Aspie, I do NOT want any unnecessary changes to the way things work. If it ain't broke, don't fix it!
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Helen J on 28 March 2014, 07:29:49
Yup, I do what Randi does and it works fine - the other way looks rather confusing to me (I'm probably easily confused .... ???)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Dean on 28 March 2014, 15:00:44
I tried that a long while ago and the 'problem' I had was I had to go 'backwards' to follow the thread of the postings!

Now I click on the 'last page number' for 'new replies to your posts' which allows me to easily read the last several posts to 'catch up' in the discussion. ;)

Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Thursday Next on 28 March 2014, 15:23:51
I do it the same way, Dean!  Great minds etc etc ...  :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 28 March 2014, 15:35:33
Being lazy I just open the topic and read down from the top like a book.
To much effort to click this then scroll down and then scroll back up.
My posts go backwards in time DOWNwards and yours go backwards in time UPwards.
OK I will re-order my Concord Crew list to suit the upward readers.

 :P
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 28 March 2014, 15:39:04
I do it the same way, Dean!  Great minds etc etc ...  :)

There is another saying based on this one but I will not say it.   ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 28 March 2014, 16:47:18
Actually, because I always click the last post icon for the topic I want to read, I get to read all the current posts on that last page from the top down in correct order of posting.  ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Hanibal94 on 28 March 2014, 16:58:22
OK, so in a nutshell: There is more than one way of doing it, and different people have different preferences.
I suggest we keep things the way they are. No need to change something if it's always worked fine and never caused any problems, right?
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 28 March 2014, 17:03:01
Perfect, Hanibal.  :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Kathy on 28 March 2014, 20:48:34
(https://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTqlYwTO-7F4E3zGDSFGTVETjER9DR0-Ue1B3vBr5jV-5kUJ-xu)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 28 March 2014, 20:59:46
Sure enough - Hu's on first.   ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Kathy on 28 March 2014, 21:21:00
 ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Dean on 29 March 2014, 00:54:39
I do it the same way, Dean!  Great minds etc etc ...  :)

You betcha, ma'am!! ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Steeleye on 29 March 2014, 01:23:16
OK, so in a nutshell: There is more than one way of doing it, and different people have different preferences.
I suggest we keep things the way they are. No need to change something if it's always worked fine and never caused any problems, right?

I reckon the differences are hemispheric-dependent.  Either us Antipodeans are upside-down or you anti-Antipodeans are.  It surely means that what one of us reads as top-down the other must read as bottom-up. Right?

This reminds me (I don't know why) of a quote I read in a Deep Sea Drilling Project volume about East Antarctica and West Antarctica (see http://peakbagger.com/map/premade/r82.gif (http://peakbagger.com/map/premade/r82.gif) for a map).  If I recall correctly, the ditty went:

In east East Antarctica, West Antarctica is east, while in west East Antarctica, West Antarctica is west.
Conversely, in west West Antarctica, East Antarctica is west, while in east West Antarctica, East Antarctica is east.
No wonder we didn't know where we were!


Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Dean on 29 March 2014, 08:27:45
As my friend John Carpenter says:


A Sailor's Definition of Latitude and Longitude:
Latitude is Where We Are Lost,
and Longitude is How Long We've
Been Lost There!    ::)

BTW - John is a Marine mechanic extraodinaire & sailor around here and has been for MANY years!! ;)
      
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 29 March 2014, 08:36:35
 ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: camiller on 29 March 2014, 09:40:17
 ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Randi on 29 March 2014, 09:56:54
 ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Thursday Next on 29 March 2014, 13:52:46
And presumably recording a Longitude of 6 25 N (as the Changuinola has just done) just means they need to take more water with the rum ration ...  ::)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Randi on 30 March 2014, 07:52:37
Is a Lack of Water to Blame for the Conflict in Syria? (http://www.smithsonianmag.com/innovation/is-a-lack-of-water-to-blame-for-the-conflict-in-syria-72513729/#TWE8Px520t3LqRMV.99)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Craig on 30 March 2014, 11:41:01
Good article, Randi.  8)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Hanibal94 on 30 March 2014, 14:51:56
Yes, very interesting indeed, Randi.

Here's something I found: How to not park a ship. (http://www.youtube.com/embed/QYltdonj2iE)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Thursday Next on 30 March 2014, 15:08:47
Yes, very interesting indeed, Randi.

Here's something I found: How to not park a ship. (http://www.youtube.com/embed/QYltdonj2iE)

Looks like someone else needs to take more water with their rum ration!  :o
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Randi on 30 March 2014, 15:14:43
Very neat.

Spoiler alert ;)

Quote this post to read the text.
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Here's what it looks like when you crash a massive ship on purpose.

It might seem like the person steering this ferry doesn't know what they're doing, but then you don't need to take much care with a vessel no longer fit for purpose.

The M/F Ostend Spirit, also known as the MS Pride of Calais, met a rather undignified end when it was intentionally run aground at a European breakers yard.

For more than 20 years the ferry went back and forth across the English Channel before its final journey to a scrap yard in Aliaga, Turkey.

The ship will now be taken apart and recycled.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 31 March 2014, 22:44:56
Yet another reason for doing this stuff.
http://www.iflscience.com/environment/ipcc-reports-we-must-manage-risk-widespread-climate-change-effects (http://www.iflscience.com/environment/ipcc-reports-we-must-manage-risk-widespread-climate-change-effects)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Craig on 01 April 2014, 05:48:41
Yes, this is the strongest warning yet by the IPCC. Old weather data is still important to improve climate models, which can be used not only to make more accurate predictions but to simulate the effects of geoengineering proposals designed to slow down warming. Unfortunately, it has come to that.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: AvastMH on 01 April 2014, 08:59:08
Myles wrote part of that report - perhaps I'm glad I'm sick and at home - my phone at work must be exploding with calls! :o ::) :-X
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Helen J on 01 April 2014, 12:33:32
Sorry you're sick, Joan - I hope work has quietened down by the time you're better ....
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Hanibal94 on 01 April 2014, 12:37:31
Get well soon, Joan.
Here's a bit of good news for you and everyone else:

http://www.goodnewsnetwork.org/business/study-shows-we-work-harder-if-our-boss-gives-us-chocolate.html
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Randi on 01 April 2014, 13:10:57
 ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Helen J on 01 April 2014, 13:24:14
Get well soon, Joan.
Here's a bit of good news for you and everyone else:

http://www.goodnewsnetwork.org/business/study-shows-we-work-harder-if-our-boss-gives-us-chocolate.html

So, when is my chocolate arriving, Captain?  ::)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Dean on 02 April 2014, 00:54:07
Here you go ma'am!   ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Randi on 02 April 2014, 02:01:51
 ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: AvastMH on 02 April 2014, 08:21:48
 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D


This all cheered me up! Thanks for good wishes, chocolate (with or without mutts) etc
I have to say that I could have saved Warwick Uni a lot of work. Had they sent me 700 packs of chocolate I'd have written their report for them and sent it back liberally covered in brown finger prints and cocoa dusting blooms. ::) ::)   8)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Hanibal94 on 02 April 2014, 14:10:59
Good evening everyone.

There is a new Zooniverse minigame available here:

http://games.usvsth3m.com/2048/zooniverse-edition-3/

I dare you all to beat my high score (see attachment). It's better than some! (http://daily.zooniverse.org/2014/04/01/2048-zooniverse-game/)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 02 April 2014, 16:26:08
I got 4764 do I win?
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Helen J on 02 April 2014, 16:27:41
Love the mutts - very sweet (and calorie free too!)

And 720 on the game - I don't think I'm cut out for these sorts of games.  I usually can't work out what I'm meant to be doing ....
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Hanibal94 on 02 April 2014, 16:53:20
OK Stuart, you seem to have won. Any chance you can use the Windows Snipping Tool to capture evidence?

The best I could manage is down below.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 02 April 2014, 17:40:20
I trashed the game as I thought it was the lowest moves that won and I had the highest %^)

Trust me, would this face lie to you?
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Dean on 02 April 2014, 19:16:29
In case you need more chocolate...........
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 02 April 2014, 20:43:40
Just lost the signal and got a screen on my sat tv (Foxtel) saying 'Solar Interference to the satellite is affecting our signal'.

Does this mean there may be solar storm tonight and if so there may be a good Aurora.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 02 April 2014, 22:34:37
Yep.

http://nvonews.com/solar-flare-2014-x1-class-storm-worst-this-year/
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Hanibal94 on 03 April 2014, 01:29:16
I trashed the game as I thought it was the lowest moves that won and I had the highest %^)

Trust me, would this face lie to you?

I'll take your word for it, Stuart.
If nobody breaks your score by Sunday, you win the contest.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: AvastMH on 03 April 2014, 09:31:26
In case you need more chocolate...........

Hey Dean - fab - where did you find this picture of me?  ;) ;) ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Craig on 03 April 2014, 12:58:47
What fine antlers you have, Joan  8)  8)  8)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Hanibal94 on 03 April 2014, 13:15:00
Not for long! *NOM NOM NOM NOM NOM*
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: AvastMH on 03 April 2014, 17:42:02
Thanks Craig - it's nice to know that they are appreciated  - because they sure do make hat-buying difficult!  :o

Then again, once Hanibal's finished chomping on them they well fit nicely into a small baseball cap.......ouch, mind the white bits, they are very sensitive!  ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Randi on 04 April 2014, 02:50:34
 ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Hanibal94 on 05 April 2014, 08:58:41
Good afternoon Old Weather.

Ever seen a train laying its own track (http://www.wimp.com/traintrack/)?

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This is what is happening from Chicago to St. Louis for the high-speed rail. People were stopping along the highway taking pictures. For those who live in the Springfield area and have seen all the machines running up and down the tracks, here is a link to a video that shows you how the concrete ties and rail are put in place. The road bed was raised 13 inches to accommodate the new high-speed rail line between St. Louis , MO and Chicago , IL . There are only two of these track-laying machines in the world, one here and one in Europe .
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Randi on 05 April 2014, 09:57:02
 8) 8) 8)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: AvastMH on 05 April 2014, 11:47:42
What size batteries does it use - and can you pre-book one for Christmas?
WHAT a toy!


Here's the West Country line being repaired at Dawlish  (it ended up like a bizarre necklace after the winter storms):  http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-devon-26874503  can't find a safe version in 'pop-out' - apologies everyone who can't get into the bbc.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: camiller on 05 April 2014, 12:36:54
Wow!  What a cool machine!
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 05 April 2014, 15:33:30
Both videos are fascinating to watch.  Thank you.  :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 05 April 2014, 16:36:29
Nice find the two of you.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 05 April 2014, 18:01:53
Did anybody take part in 'World Pillow Fight Day' yesterday or did you do like me and sleep through it.  ::)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Dean on 05 April 2014, 19:32:25
Slept through it. ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 05 April 2014, 19:45:12
Never even heard of it.  Sounds like fun, who started it?
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 05 April 2014, 20:28:00
I know the URL says 2013 but it is 2014
http://2013.pillowfightday.com/ (http://2013.pillowfightday.com/)


There was one in Oxford, I wonder if Joan went?

Anybody notice they have changed the URL entry for the posts to a box input.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 06 April 2014, 16:49:43
Just lost the signal and got a screen on my sat tv (Foxtel) saying 'Solar Interference to the satellite is affecting our signal'.

Does this mean there may be solar storm tonight and if so there may be a good Aurora.

See NASA video here.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=_8yPQEE2Dnk (https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=_8yPQEE2Dnk)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: AvastMH on 06 April 2014, 19:04:47
Sadly missed the pillow fight Stuart.  :( Nothing notable on you tube either...sounds like it might not have flash mobbed too well  ::) - which is not surprising given that the students are down for the Easter Vac just now.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Hanibal94 on 07 April 2014, 11:13:01
Good evening everyone.

There is a new Zooniverse minigame available here:

http://games.usvsth3m.com/2048/zooniverse-edition-3/

I dare you all to beat my high score (see attachment). It's better than some! (http://daily.zooniverse.org/2014/04/01/2048-zooniverse-game/)
I got 4764 do I win?

Since nobody else has beaten Stuart's record (not even me - see below), I hereby declare him the winner!
Congrats Stuart - I will send you your prize by PM.
However, you are not the best of all. That honor goes to another Zooite who I believe is not on OW. His score is attached as well.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Hanibal94 on 09 April 2014, 12:22:02
Good evening OW.

I just heard about the existence of a scary SSL bug called Heartbleed (http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-26954540).
I have now changed all my passwords for sites that have my financial info (like Amazon), and I recommend you all to do the same! Better safe than sorry - especially when it comes to identity theft.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 09 April 2014, 12:33:38
Oh, my.   Thanks for the warning.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Craig on 09 April 2014, 13:36:23
Thanks Hanibal. I was wondering why our Canada Revenue Agency suspended online services the other day.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Thursday Next on 09 April 2014, 14:53:22
There is more about this on the BBC website:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-26954540

Towards the end of the article, one of the "experts" describes it as a low to medium risk and says there is no need to rush - this is rather at odds with the beginning part of the article.  I really would like a realistic assessment of how serious this threat is.  Passwords are the bane of my life.  Finding six strong, unique passwords that I can remember without writing them down is not going to be easy.  :'(
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Hanibal94 on 09 April 2014, 15:17:55
I have an extension called LastPass that does most of the work for me - it saves every password with the corresponding website, can generate tricky passwords like ertu413zjuio2132, and can even detect when I've changed a password and update itself.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Thursday Next on 09 April 2014, 15:40:46
Problem is, I look at something like LastPass and I start to wonder if someone can't hack into that and get all my passwords in one go ...
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 09 April 2014, 15:43:08
I found several articles that suggest ways that boil down to creating a base password used everywhere and then how to alter it for every site that can be deduced by you just looking at the site name.

Creating strong passwords is easier than you think (http://www.infoworld.com/print/206865)

Passwords: Creating and Maintaining a Strong Password System (http://antivirus.about.com/od/securitytips/a/passwords.htm)

Passwords: Creating and Maintaining a Strong Password System (http://antivirus.about.com/od/securitytips/a/passwords.htm)

5 Steps to a Good Password (http://netforbeginners.about.com/od/antivirusantispyware/tp/5-steps-to-a-strong-password.htm)

Mind you, when their instructions start to confuse me, I simplify the process some.  It is still a way of being able to remember unique passwords when looking at the login page for each site.  Without leaving a written record to be hacked.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Randi on 09 April 2014, 18:23:36
This one is important: http://blog.zooniverse.org/2014/04/09/the-heartbleed-bug-and-the-zooniverse/

Change your Zooniverse password now, people.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Dean on 09 April 2014, 19:07:47
Problem is, I look at something like LastPass and I start to wonder if someone can't hack into that and get all my passwords in one go ...

I've had that thought for a LONG time! Also why I won't put data 'on the cloud' ESPECIALLY password files!!!  ;)  I'll stick with 3 or 4 that I can remember. I keep 1 'hard one' for ONLY financial things (Banks, credit cards, etc, ) and use the other 2 for everything else. It's worked so far. Hope to continue.  :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 09 April 2014, 23:29:02
Whilst doing some research for my next holiday I came across this article from 2011.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2045708/Staggering-Arctic-map-shows-impassable-Northwest-Passage-opening-polar-ice-caps-melt.html (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2045708/Staggering-Arctic-map-shows-impassable-Northwest-Passage-opening-polar-ice-caps-melt.html)

Now if I could just find a ship that would take me along that route then I would be best pleased.
Iqaluit to Cambridge Bay is no problem but Cambridge Bay to Unalaska is creating a problem, no one seems to go that way and it would probably be a bit cold on the edge of the ice with my thumb out looking for a lift.  ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 10 April 2014, 00:03:43
See if you can get certain Great Lakes sailing ships (maybe from a member?) to do it on a dare. :o
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Hanibal94 on 10 April 2014, 01:24:25
Problem is, I look at something like LastPass and I start to wonder if someone can't hack into that and get all my passwords in one go ...

I've had that thought for a LONG time! Also why I won't put data 'on the cloud' ESPECIALLY password files!!!  ;)  I'll stick with 3 or 4 that I can remember. I keep 1 'hard one' for ONLY financial things (Banks, credit cards, etc, ) and use the other 2 for everything else. It's worked so far. Hope to continue.  :)

Good point, both of you.
Very well. I will delete LastPass and make do without. Better to not have anything on the cloud, like you said, and Dean's method works fine for me. Having an Aspie brain does make it a lot easier to remember gibberish if said gibberish is important to me in some way.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: studentforever on 10 April 2014, 05:19:36
Wait till you get older. A friend and I were complaining in Greek class that we could remember the french vocab we learned at school better than the greek vocab we learned last term.  A classmate of about 80 said 'Wait and see girls, you ain't seen nothing yet'.  As I age still further I fear he was right.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Hanibal94 on 10 April 2014, 06:34:32
Yeah, but given how fast technology changes, who can say what passwords will be like in 30 years?
Perhaps there won't even be passwords - just fingerprint and iris scanners.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Dean on 10 April 2014, 07:31:05
Wait till you get older. A friend and I were complaining in Greek class that we could remember the french vocab we learned at school better than the greek vocab we learned last term.  A classmate of about 80 said 'Wait and see girls, you ain't seen nothing yet'.  As I age still further I fear he was right.

Of all the things I miss in life, I miss my mind the most!   ::)

Although as my friend says ' The 'benefits' of Alzheimer's is that you meet new people all the time and you can hide your own Easter eggs!'   ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Thursday Next on 10 April 2014, 08:29:57
A friend of mine shared this on Facebook recently (the orignal contains expletives which I have modified):

Creating a password

cabbage

Sorry, the password must be more than 8 characters

boiled cabbage

Sorry, the password must contain 1 numerical character

1 boiled cabbage

Sorry, the password cannot have blank spaces

50flippingboiledcabbages

Sorry, the password must contain at least one upper case character

50FLIPPINGboiledcabbages

Sorry, the password cannot use more than one upper case character consecutively

50FlippingBoiledCabbagesShovedUpYourFundament,IfYouDon'tGiveMeAccessImmediately

Sorry, the password cannot contain punctuation

NowIAmGettingReallyHackedOff50FlippingBoiledCabbagesShovedUpYourFundamentIfYouDontGiveMeAccessImmediately

Sorry, that password is already in use!
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Dean on 10 April 2014, 08:41:10
 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D 8)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Helen J on 10 April 2014, 08:52:31
Yes, I've been there (though no cabbages were involved ....)  :D
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: studentforever on 10 April 2014, 08:56:32
It does have the ring of truth, doesn't it.

 ;) ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Helen J on 10 April 2014, 08:57:55
What particularly maddened me was they only told you each rule when you hadn't complied with it - why not give the whole lot at the beginning, you could spend a while creating something which 'passed' and then get on with life?  Grrrrrr......
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: studentforever on 10 April 2014, 09:01:36
It was written by a teenage geek who 'knew' that only idiots did not know the rules.  Probably the same geek that wrote the instructions for my new mobile phone or else his twin brother.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Randi on 10 April 2014, 13:41:32
Wonderful ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Hanibal94 on 10 April 2014, 15:09:59
I've heard of that problem too.
Back when I had my first practical phase in the computer science course I'm taking, the main project was designing a log in/register page and a database for storing the information (The company I'm with wasn't planning to actually use it - the task was only for training purposes).
I made sure the register page states all the conditions for your password before you enter anything at all.

Oh, and the project was a success. Took me weeks of trial and error (mostly error!), but I finally managed to root out all the bugs, and get it to work just fine.
I used the following programming languages/tools: HTML, JavaScript, NodeJS, MongoDB.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Thursday Next on 10 April 2014, 15:22:40
Latest advice on the Heartbleed bug is not to rush to change your passwords immediately because you need to be sure the site in question has first applied the patch to OpenSSL.
http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2014/apr/09/heartbleed-dont-rush-to-update-passwords-security-experts-warn

There's also quite a useful list at Mashable of which sites are and aren't affected:
http://mashable.com/2014/04/09/heartbleed-bug-websites-affected/
Just wondering if it is safe to assume that if a US website is not affected, then the UK website will also be OK ... or should I change my passwords anyway to be on the safe side?  ???  I have done Zooniverse as I presume they have applied the patch, or they wouldn't have told us all to change our passwords!

Hanibal, I'm sorry if I put you off LastPass - I've now read a lot more about this Heartbleed bug, and LastPass come across as having a pretty good reputation.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Hanibal94 on 10 April 2014, 15:47:19
You are forgiven, Su. I didn't delete it totally - just removed all my sensitive websites, and they weren't permanently deleted, they were in the "trash can".
So I was able to restore them all. I did make sure to change my master password though - and it's quite a long and tricky one that I am not using for ANYTHING else.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Michael on 10 April 2014, 16:49:46
Just on a totally different note: I was talking to a friend working in the Arctic Weather Centre (Environment Canada). Last fall, a high mucky-muck had them on a conference call and told them that they were not to mention Arctic warming and if asked about it not to respond. I was appalled, but quickly realized this should be expected from a government that pulled out of Kyoto, the Treaty on Desertification and a host of other environmental treaties. They seem to believe that the faster you get the carbon out of the ground and into the air, the sooner everyone will be rich. I suppose in their "reality" no other possibility exists.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Randi on 10 April 2014, 17:29:33
 :o :o :o :o :o :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: camiller on 10 April 2014, 20:41:29
sad
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 11 April 2014, 03:00:38
Looks like it could get a tad wet and windy in Cooktown QLD tonight.
Cyclone Cat 5 due about midnight tonight.  :o  Just been downgraded to a cat4, phew
During its peak, destructive winds of up to 300km/h were expected to hit communities in the area. Will now be less.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Steeleye on 11 April 2014, 04:44:01
Looks like it could get a tad wet and windy in Cooktown QLD tonight.
Cyclone Cat 5 due about midnight tonight.  :o  Just been downgraded to a cat4, phew
During its peak, destructive winds of up to 300km/h were expected to hit communities in the area. Will now be less.

I suppose it's all a bit relative, isn't it?  "Oh whoopee! I was only hit by an 8kg sledgehammer instead of a 10kg job!"

The cyclone (typhoon/hurricane) season down here extends to the end of April, although they aren't that common in April, partiularly the big ones.  The residents of Cooktown are well and truly battened down tonight.
 :(

Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 11 April 2014, 04:54:01
 ::)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: studentforever on 11 April 2014, 04:59:33
Keep safe
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Steeleye on 11 April 2014, 05:42:38
Keep safe

No problems for Stuart and me - we're 2000+km from the 'action'. The advantage that Oz has is that the cyclone activity is usually concentrated in the less populated areas in the north - unlike the Gulf Coast or the Philippines.  However, that's not much consolation if you're sitting through it.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Dean on 11 April 2014, 07:44:52
It was written by a teenage geek who 'knew' that only idiots did not know the rules.  Probably the same geek that wrote the instructions for my new mobile phone or else his twin brother.

I believe the 'progression' is:

Them that can...do.
Them that can't ...teach.   (Actually them of us that teach DO IT ALL!!!!!! 8))
Them that can't teach...Administrate.
Them that can't Administrate...write Instruction Manuals!!!!! ::)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Steeleye on 11 April 2014, 08:50:44
It was written by a teenage geek who 'knew' that only idiots did not know the rules.  Probably the same geek that wrote the instructions for my new mobile phone or else his twin brother.

I believe the 'progression' is:

Them that can...do.
Them that can't ...teach.   (Actually them of us that teach DO IT ALL!!!!!! 8))
Them that can't teach...Administrate.
Them that can't Administrate...write Instruction Manuals!!!!! ::)

I think you left out a point between your 2 and 3:
'Those who can't teach, teach teachers'

Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Dean on 11 April 2014, 16:24:03
I KNEW I missed something!!! ;)

 ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 11 April 2014, 16:40:51
I need some help setting my new $10 watch, can anybody help me sort out this manual.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Randi on 11 April 2014, 16:58:15
"You get what you pay for." ::)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Craig on 11 April 2014, 17:11:22
There doesn't seem to be any directions for disposing of it safely after you have given up in frustration.  ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 11 April 2014, 17:29:43
Where is a 10yr old when you needed them.  ::)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Steeleye on 11 April 2014, 18:15:26
That's what happens when you cheapskate, Stuart.  I, however, go for the more upmarket $15 timepieces.  The extra $5 is used to emply a translator who can interface between the meaningless gibberish for your watch and the decypherable gibberish for mine.  It's really worth the extra expense.  When you amortise the extra $5 over the average 2 year life of one of these watches, it averages out at less than 1 cent a day, which even us ex-Poms can afford.

 ::)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Michael on 11 April 2014, 18:57:23
I had a watch broken when a chisel from an air gun fell on it from a great height, back when I was building the W.A.C. Bennett dam in 1967. Even though the watch saved me from any injury more than a bruise, I never replaced it. The interesting things is that even though I haven't worn a watch for 47 years, I also know what time it is within a few minutes; I never have to wind it; I never have to buy batteries; I don't have to worry about changing the time when I cross timezones, or timezones cross me (i.e. daylight savings). Throw your watches away and let your internal clock take over. It will take only a couple of days...
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Hanibal94 on 11 April 2014, 19:02:46
Being a Millenial, I don't have a watch - I just use my cell phone.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Dean on 11 April 2014, 19:15:10
I need some help setting my new $10 watch, can anybody help me sort out this manual.

See above....... ::)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 11 April 2014, 20:22:12
Hi Steeleye.
I have an approx $2500 Bulova Accutron Spaceface watch and am to scared to wear it as it costs a fortune to fix.
Runs of a tuning fort action with one of cogs being 2.8mm dia and having 300 teeth on it. It revolves once a second.
Hence looking for a cheap knock around, WITH a calendar as I have no idea what the real date is after doing heeps of OW entries.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Thursday Next on 12 April 2014, 12:02:27
You actually read the instructions?  I'm always far too impatient for that!  I think the random button-pressing method I usually employ would have worked just as well in this instance.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 12 April 2014, 17:22:44
Hi Su
After three months of random button pushing I gave up.  :-[

I thought some of the logs were hard to read but at least they are in English not Chinglish.
 ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Michael on 12 April 2014, 18:03:07
An interesting TV series about Climate Change has just started. The first episode is available on Youtube.
Years of Living Dangerously: Video (https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=brvhCnYvxQQ)

If that video link doesn't work, here is:
Years of Living Dangerously: Homepage (http://yearsoflivingdangerously.com/)

And the article that pointed me there:
News article (http://www.truth-out.org/news/item/23038-years-of-living-dangerously-james-cameron-matt-damon-harrison-ford-in-tv-climate-change-series/)

And a very scary article:
Evidence of Acceleration (http://www.truth-out.org/news/item/22999-evidence-of-acceleration-on-all-fronts-of-anthropogenic-climate-disruption)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 12 April 2014, 18:19:20
That is interesting - I'll watch it on YouTube.  It will be on the premium cable channel Showtime tomorrow evening in the US, 10pm EDT.

Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Michael on 12 April 2014, 18:59:39
If you have cable... which I don't. No cell phone, no watch and no cable.  ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 12 April 2014, 19:04:33
I need cable because my apartment building has so much steel in its walls, aerial antennas indoors don't work.  I have Basic Broadcasting Cable (only broadcast over the air channels with some shopping networks thrown in), basic cell phone (not smart at all) is my only phone, and no watch.  I do indulge in a Kindle reader, again most basic model.  Carrying a library around in my purse is true luxury.

That's why I was pleased to see it available on YouTube.  :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 12 April 2014, 20:30:04
Nothing to do with OW but some lovely pics.
If you have the time look at the lot.
http://amazinglytimedphotos.com (http://amazinglytimedphotos.com)

Now it is back to work.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 12 April 2014, 21:44:53
Thank you for that many smiles.  :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Craig on 13 April 2014, 07:09:05
Fun pics, Stuart.

Thanks to the link to Years of Living Dangerously by Thomas Friedman, Michael. It will wake a lot of people up, or scare them so much they'll turn it off. It's enough to give you nightmares. I was happy to see a evangelical  climate scientists who believes warming is real. We need more like that.

Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Michael on 13 April 2014, 11:25:59
 Our prime minister might want pipelines, but:
Kitimat, B.C., votes 'no' to Northern Gateway in plebiscite (http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/kitimat-b-c-votes-no-to-northern-gateway-in-plebiscite-1.2607877) Already the Enbridge Pipeline people are spinning the story.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: AvastMH on 14 April 2014, 09:12:11
A friend of mine shared this on Facebook recently (the orignal contains expletives which I have modified):

Creating a password

cabbage


Hi folks -- just spotted this one and had to laugh. One of my old colleagues kept making a mess of her passwords, the IT officer always reset them and told her to set a new one as soon as possible. But she always chickened out and kept what he had set up. One day she was moaning bitterly at how unmemorable the latest offering was. JOhn had a way of replacing letters with symbols and numbers. So what Doris saw  O#?0no[@ga1n!  , what I saw was: Oh no not again!  When I translated it, John got into an awful lot of trouble...oopsie!  :D :D 8)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Hanibal94 on 14 April 2014, 12:24:05
For those of you living in the US and Canada:
Total Solar Eclipse on Tuesday morning (http://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-27026339)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Randi on 14 April 2014, 14:44:27
Public service message: Smartphone overuse may 'damage' eyes, say opticians (http://www.bbc.co.uk/newsbeat/26780069)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 14 April 2014, 15:58:56
I don't like the things for other reasons - nice to have an excuse to not buy a smart phone.  :)

I will not be watching the lunar eclipse.  Aside from the timing (1am to 4am Chicago time) we have spring SNOW tonight - I'm assuming also with clouds, and too cold to be welcoming.   ::)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Dean on 14 April 2014, 16:35:32
Yup!! Same here in western New York only coming a few hours later.

This morning (Mon) it was sunny and 70?F (21?C) when we launched my friend's sailboat for the season. Tomorrow looks like snow and 32?? (0?C). Ain't weather WONDERFUL??!!  ::)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 14 April 2014, 17:11:03
We had that gorgeous 70F yesterday - today is cold rain in the 30s.   :P
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Kathy on 15 April 2014, 08:27:21
Snow and sleet for us this afternoon  ack!!!
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: camiller on 15 April 2014, 08:58:31
Snow and sleet in the Hudson River Valley tonight!
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Hanibal94 on 15 April 2014, 09:17:00
Sunny and temperatures between 10 and 15 C for Saxony for the next few days.
My apologies for any feelings of envy/wrath I have just caused.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: camiller on 15 April 2014, 09:22:57
 :D Fortunately, Hanibal, we just had a lovely weekend, so no hard feelings!
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: studentforever on 15 April 2014, 11:29:11
I was sitting reading my kindle on the banks of the Clyde this afternoon so no feelings of envy (for once!).
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Randi on 15 April 2014, 13:20:45
Nice weather here too ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Caro on 17 April 2014, 02:44:02
Good morning OW.
The sun is shining and the birds are tweeting here.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 17 April 2014, 02:46:18
Good evening OW.
Sun setting, birds tweeting.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Caro on 17 April 2014, 02:52:51
Cockatoos screeching?  ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 17 April 2014, 03:05:42
Yep.

Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 18 April 2014, 17:34:29
Happy Public Holiday to everybody.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Craig on 18 April 2014, 18:03:30
It's hard to get excited about a "Public Holiday" but thanks for the thought, Stuart.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 19 April 2014, 17:02:29
OK Craig.
How about "Happy 'Official Chocolate Eating day' "
 ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Randi on 19 April 2014, 17:08:18
Sounds good to me!
I just celebrated 'Un-Official Chocolate Eating day' with a large, very chocolaty cookie ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: studentforever on 20 April 2014, 02:32:14
Well I'm a traditionalist

HAPPY EASTER
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: lollia paolina on 20 April 2014, 03:00:16
Buona Pasqua, Old Weather

Happy Easter


:) :) :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Caro on 20 April 2014, 03:50:59
Buona Pasqua, Silvia. :)
Enjoy the day everyone, in whatever way your choose.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 20 April 2014, 04:17:01
Buona Pasqua!

Vrolijk Pasen!

Frohe Ostern!

Joyeuses Paques!

Wesołych Świąt!


(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-pZXU2mXGSnA/U1ODKLbP1yI/AAAAAAAADrk/XbcKbnLaBS8/w630-h460-no/Happy+Easter+OW.JPG)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Randi on 20 April 2014, 04:49:29
Happy Chocolate Eating Easter, Old Weather!
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Helen J on 20 April 2014, 09:10:57
Happy Easter, and happy chocolate eating Old Weather (I'm combining both ....)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Craig on 20 April 2014, 10:17:00
My wife ate one of the chocolate bunnies that she bought for our grandchildren. I went back to the store but I couldn't get the same one. So now she has to confess her sin has she tries to divide what we have equally ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Randi on 20 April 2014, 10:26:19
You should have bought enough of another type to hide what she did - then you could both eat the remainder of the evidence later ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Helen J on 20 April 2014, 12:22:06
My wife ate one of the chocolate bunnies that she bought for our grandchildren. I went back to the store but I couldn't get the same one. So now she has to confess her sin has she tries to divide what we have equally ;D

What about breeding like rabbits?  Surely if you'd left them together for a bit, more rabbits might have arrived?
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Craig on 20 April 2014, 13:35:48
I should have consulted you both about this dilemma.  ;D

But it was  funny because we were having breakfast at a restaurant and my wife wasn't saying anything about the chocolate so I whispered to Emilie to ask her grandmother if she had forgotten her Easter bunny. My wife, of course, tried to tell them that it was my fault for not getting the same type of bunny but everyone knew the real story. We (I) had a good laugh.  ;D

Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Randi on 20 April 2014, 13:53:58
 ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: AvastMH on 21 April 2014, 04:20:51
 ;D ;D
Happy Easter all!!

Luckily I'm not much of a choco fiend - however I confess that, when my godchildren were wee nippers, i used to buy a spare bunny or two. One in case they trotted a friend along with them when visiting,  and one in case of moral weakness on my behalf. I don't recall ever ending up with a homeless choc rabbit at the end of Easter Monday.   :P :D
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Randi on 21 April 2014, 04:36:16
 ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Caro on 22 April 2014, 02:24:10
Happy birthday Janet
... and happy Earth Day.  :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: AvastMH on 22 April 2014, 02:43:20
Have a very happy birthday Janet!
Joan
 :-* :-* :-*
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: propriome on 22 April 2014, 02:53:41
Happy birthday Janet!!!  :) :) :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Randi on 22 April 2014, 02:59:43
Happy birthday Janet
... and happy Earth Day !


 ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Craig on 22 April 2014, 06:23:41
All the best, Janet!

Craig
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 22 April 2014, 07:14:45
Thank you all.  :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: lollia paolina on 22 April 2014, 07:50:37
Happy Birthday, Janet!!!
Buon Compleanno!!!

:) :) :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Dean on 22 April 2014, 08:10:30
Janet:

   Happy Birthday to you,
   Happy Birthday to you,
   Happy Birthday dear Jaaaaaaaaaannnnnnnnnnnneeeetttttttttttttttttttttttttttttt,
   Happy Birthday to you! 

Hope it's a happy one and that you get lots of neat presents!
Hope also you get to share with family!   ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: jil on 22 April 2014, 08:24:39
Janet, have a great Earth day! And an even better birthday  :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Helen J on 22 April 2014, 09:04:37
Have a great birthday, Janet - it's one celebration after another!
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: camiller on 22 April 2014, 09:22:00
Happy Birthday, Janet!
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Michael on 22 April 2014, 10:34:22
Happy Birthday, Janet!  and many MMMMOOOORRRRREEEEE!!!
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 22 April 2014, 11:49:44
Gorgeous - thanks to all of you. 
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Thursday Next on 22 April 2014, 14:17:01
Many Happy Returns, Janet!
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Kathy on 22 April 2014, 16:46:13
To Janet on her 111th Birthday

So this is the date of your birth -
we all hope it is filled with great mirth,
celebration and song,
all the day long,
until you come home to your berth.

Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 22 April 2014, 18:52:04
Thanks Kathy - still striving for that age, got a long way still to go.  :D
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Randi on 23 April 2014, 02:20:08
Mystery of 'ocean quack sound' solved (http://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-27117669)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: AvastMH on 23 April 2014, 02:39:35
 ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Caro on 23 April 2014, 02:41:39
 :) If it quacks like a duck ...
I like this story too: http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn25441-longest-experiment-sees-pitch-drop-after-84year-wait.html#.U1dhvld3Jfg

And happy St George's Day to English persons everywhere.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 23 April 2014, 03:26:11
Oh, my - they are even offering a streaming video to watch it for them.  http://www.theninthwatch.com/feed/
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: AvastMH on 23 April 2014, 04:09:03
It being St George's Day it is also the day upon which one picks fresh dandelion heads for making wine.  ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Randi on 23 April 2014, 07:51:51
It seems to me that I've heard that dandelion wine can be pretty powerful? ;) ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: AvastMH on 23 April 2014, 13:18:11
I can say that, having imbibed it, I have little memory of how strong it was...I have no memory of most of the rest of those days  ::), just a sort of warm pleasant haze.
Yep - it is strong..very nice too. During brewing it can quickly go bad so you need to watch it like a hawk AND keep taking it off the lees.  8) ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 23 April 2014, 17:12:40
Hi Joan.
Save a bottle for Sept.
Ta.   ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Caro on 25 April 2014, 03:10:56
Morning OW.

(http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/images/74433000/jpg/_74433805_hi022025887.jpg)
Lest we forget.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Randi on 26 April 2014, 06:31:31
Latin tall ships arrive in Peru for nautical festival (http://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-27130609)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Craig on 26 April 2014, 06:51:36
Everything is very slow this morning. I now just have a white screen for OW - saved several minutes ago. The Forum is slow too.

It's been 15 minutes now and my page hasn't been saved.  "Transferring data from Old Weather.org..." message in the lower left corner.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Dean on 26 April 2014, 07:54:57
Friend just sent this. 

Here's for us as we age!   8)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Randi on 26 April 2014, 07:57:43
 ;D ;D ;D

The system seems to be working OK for me :-\
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 26 April 2014, 08:42:53
Cool walker!  :)

The system works fine in Chicago, no problems at all.  Maybe it was a momentary slowdown, or the problem is local?
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Craig on 26 April 2014, 11:18:48
;D ;D ;D

The system seems to be working OK for me :-\

It seems to have been my modem or my router. I first rebooted my computer but that didn't help so then I shut down everything and started them up one at a time. That appears to have fixed the problem.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: camiller on 26 April 2014, 12:14:37
 ;D ;D Great walker!
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Craig on 26 April 2014, 12:30:19
I had been through this routine some time ago at the suggestion of the ISP technician.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 26 April 2014, 16:51:56
Craig.
Seems you were on the right Route(r) to fix your problem.   ::)

I did have a similar problem on the morning of the 26th (My time) posting to the forum. I was the only one on at the time. (Late PM UK time)
when sending a post up, I got messages that the page was not available.
It fixed it self after about 30 min.

I find if my system has no obvious reason for going slow I run the following commands and they usually work.
netsh winsock reset catalog
netsh int ip reset reset.log hit
ipconfig /flushdns
ipconfig /registerdns

If you don't know how to run them then maybe it's best you don't.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Randi on 27 April 2014, 03:22:56
Welcome Home, Hanibal !
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Craig on 27 April 2014, 08:16:14
Good to "see" you again, Hanibal. Hope you had a good vacation.

I do know how to run those commands, Stuart, and I will keep them in mind in case all else fails (Is that in Elfish script?  ;D). I have rarely experienced a slow-down like this. My guess is our computers were just taking a break. Can you blame them with all the work we are loading on them?  ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Hanibal94 on 27 April 2014, 10:45:27
Welcome Home, Hanibal !

Actually, I was still on the Autobahn, a couple hundred kilometers away from home when you wrote that.
But thanks anyway. I been catching up on stuff.

For example, I found two more spam messages from Cloudcuckoolanders (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/Cloudcuckoolander) in my inbox:

Quote
Hara 3 and Tammer Henneh. During the early 20th century, many Olympic athletes discovered ways to chemically improve their athletic abilities. Both structures indicate the presence of powerful muscles and ligaments for the extension of the neck.

Quote
One of them tries to fire back with his Remington 870 shotgun, but misses. As per Amity's website, campuses exist in London and Singapore too. God about his patriotic feelings and personal misfortune.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Hanibal94 on 28 April 2014, 13:31:52
Something very cool: First-person footage of Felix Baumgartner's Space Jump (http://www.flixxy.com/first-person-view-of-felix-baumgartners-space-jump.htm#.Uu5KxEhDi7Q)

EDIT: And another: Chinese Gymnasts (https://www.youtube.com/embed/7-UTRIln9Pk)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: AvastMH on 28 April 2014, 17:32:53
Friend just sent this. 

Here's for us as we age!   8)


I WANT ONE!! ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 28 April 2014, 19:29:57
Hanibal, the strength and control of both those gymnasts are amazing - performance art of the most difficult kind.  :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Craig on 29 April 2014, 05:54:45
It may be a good idea not to use Internet Explorer until Microsoft fixes this latest bug.

https://ca.news.yahoo.com/microsoft-rushes-fix-browser-attacks-no-fix-xp-213303666--sector.html

Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Randi on 29 April 2014, 08:28:14
Those Chinese gymnasts are super. Very elegant and incredible strength and balance.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Hanibal94 on 29 April 2014, 14:36:21
Two amazing things:

Old - timey parkour (https://www.youtube.com/embed/M5nIskDdYM8)

Old - timey building climbers (https://www.youtube.com/embed/JQbsKoUjrKo)

Don't try this at home!
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Randi on 29 April 2014, 14:45:48
Don't worry, I won't! ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 29 April 2014, 23:33:39
There is a new search challenge online this evening, helping responders know where all the damage and blocked roads are from the over 100 tornadoes that tore across the south yesterday, leaving at least 34 dead.  It helps the first responders to know which roads are blocked and where the worst damage is.

Tomnod's satellite images are at http://www.tomnod.com/nod/challenge/okartornado012014
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: AvastMH on 30 April 2014, 04:15:45
Oh dear - how dreadful.  Very sorry to hear that so many lost their lives to a force of nature. And all those homes destroyed too. Grim. I'm sure it helps having Tomnod there though - the Services must find it very useful.
My thoughts are with those left injured and homeless and bereaved.

 
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 01 May 2014, 17:08:02
Just to cheer things up a bit.

Happy Tuba Day. (when it rolls round to your location)
http://www.tubaday.com/homepage.php (http://www.tubaday.com/homepage.php)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 01 May 2014, 17:12:42
Thank you for caring, Joan.  This has been a terrible storm.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: camiller on 01 May 2014, 20:27:44
Just to cheer things up a bit.

Happy Tuba Day. (when it rolls round to your location)
http://www.tubaday.com/homepage.php (http://www.tubaday.com/homepage.php)

Is this like Tuba Christmas? (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k96LzS63yu8)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 01 May 2014, 21:41:37
Nice find.
Would loved to have heard the Official recording, minus the background singer.
Did you hear the player third from the left was slightly out of tune.  ::)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Hanibal94 on 02 May 2014, 08:20:29
Just to cheer things up a bit.

Happy Tuba Day. (when it rolls round to your location)
http://www.tubaday.com/homepage.php (http://www.tubaday.com/homepage.php)

How about this one:

http://www.youtube.com/embed/VRKlLKnXt-g
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Randi on 02 May 2014, 08:25:09
 :-\
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Hanibal94 on 02 May 2014, 08:29:30
HAPPY 75TH BIRTHDAY, BATMAN!

(http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11112/111123678/3503035-3468468-2718720139-batma.jpg)

(http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/screen_kubrick/0/40/1284030-old_batman_robin_1434449i.jpg)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Randi on 02 May 2014, 09:28:03
 ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 02 May 2014, 09:34:53
 :o ;D 8)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Craig on 02 May 2014, 11:47:32
 8)

But I would have expected a more sophisticated wheel chair  ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Randi on 02 May 2014, 12:52:13
8)

But I would have expected a more sophisticated wheel chair  ;D

Good point ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Randi on 02 May 2014, 14:29:00
Sweden fire turns cans of rotten fish into exploding missiles (http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-27258303) :o :o :o
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 02 May 2014, 15:13:41
 :o

Just thinking of the aroma coming from that fire!
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 02 May 2014, 17:21:00
 ;D
Just to cheer things up a bit.

Happy Tuba Day. (when it rolls round to your location)
http://www.tubaday.com/homepage.php (http://www.tubaday.com/homepage.php)

How about this one:

http://www.youtube.com/embed/VRKlLKnXt-g

I can hear why they sent him out into the woods,  :o although, he sounds better than I would.   ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 02 May 2014, 20:49:15
Weather has turned here and winter is approaching.
Not as bad though as in the show I am watching.
Deadliest Catch.
My god it looks cold in Dutch harbor at the end of the crab season.
I have heaps of respect to those who sail in those seas "By Choice"
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Caro on 03 May 2014, 03:53:16
Good morning/evening Stuart and all.
Sunny here but not exactly warm: 6C at the moment.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 03 May 2014, 03:59:33
5c all day.
Lit the fire for the first time this year.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 03 May 2014, 05:44:06
We've been topping off at about 4-6 C (a.k.a. in the 40sF) all week with rain.  So far, May is looking to be the 7th consecutive month with below average temperatures.

Supposedly going to get up around 60 next week - double digits in C.  Hoping the forecasters know what they are talking about.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: studentforever on 03 May 2014, 08:46:22
Well after the occasional day of sandals and T-shirts we are back to central heating and no sun. I knew that buying the sun-block was a mistake!
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Helen J on 03 May 2014, 09:28:40
Ah, it's your fault!  Though we do have sun here, but it certainly isn't warm.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Michael on 03 May 2014, 11:53:16
We had 24 on Thursday last, with temperatures 15-17C for the next ten days (Right on normal). Cherry and plum blossoms done, rhododendrons, lilac, magnolia and chestnuts in full bloom. Too many varieties of flower to count.  :) :) :) :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: studentforever on 03 May 2014, 12:03:02
The flowers are looking quite good, the cool weather preserves them. All we need is the sunlight to set off the colours.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Michael on 03 May 2014, 19:29:45
I might get more OW records done if someone would tell my boss that my OW job is more important than the jobs she gives me like cleaning up the garden, building a shed, washing old wine bottles, etc etc.  ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 03 May 2014, 19:58:05
Maybe trade jobs with her and cook dinner while she gardens? ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 03 May 2014, 20:24:17
I might get more OW records done if someone would tell my boss that my OW job is more important than the jobs she gives me like cleaning up the garden, building a shed, washing old wine bottles, etc etc.  ;D

Easy.
If you drink the wine then you don't have to wash the bottles.
Some people just have nooo idea.  :o
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Michael on 03 May 2014, 20:37:28
Maybe trade jobs with her and cook dinner while she gardens? ;)

I cook dinners and do some housework, depending on her schedule. (She doesn't like dusting and vacuums and won't let me near laundry.)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 03 May 2014, 21:06:55
Sounds like fair division of labor then.  :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Hanibal94 on 04 May 2014, 05:40:49
Happy Star Wars Day, everyone!

(http://travelcuts.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/star-wars-day1.jpg)

(http://static.fjcdn.com/pictures/happy+star+wars+day.+may+the+4th+be+with+you_f03760_3661429.jpg)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Randi on 04 May 2014, 06:12:41
 ;D ;D ;D

I like the comment on the second picture!
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: AvastMH on 04 May 2014, 07:21:59
Ah - perhaps that's why they showed SW Ep1 yesterday night on ITV  (I'm sure they played it over Easter as well).
Hey - can you imagine Joda transcribing?  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Hanibal94 on 04 May 2014, 10:07:07
Weird but awesome, that would be.

P.S. Yoda his name is, with Y and not J.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Randi on 04 May 2014, 10:44:33
Students retain information better with pens than laptops (https://www.sciencenews.org/article/students-retain-information-better-pens-laptops) ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Dean on 04 May 2014, 11:50:47
Students retain information better with pens than laptops (https://www.sciencenews.org/article/students-retain-information-better-pens-laptops) ;D

 ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Craig on 04 May 2014, 12:07:40
I knew it! From now on I am going to transcribe using my pen  ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Hanibal94 on 04 May 2014, 12:58:30
As today is Star Wars Day, I have gathered three awesome lightsaber fights and one old but great cartoon for you all to enjoy:

Concrete Hustle (https://www.youtube.com/embed/-ZM4Hkw5CPk)
Ryan VS Dorkman 1 (https://www.youtube.com/embed/8NE5elL30w4)
Ryan VS Dorkman 2 (https://www.youtube.com/embed/RATMJ8JH1qo)
Cartoon: Mace Windu VS Battle Droids (https://www.youtube.com/embed/cF3ocZu4cZo)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Helen J on 05 May 2014, 08:13:47
Hello OW - Bank Holiday here in the UK today = more time to transcribe!  Though unfortunately (from that point of view if not others) the weather is uncharacteristically good, at least where I am.   :D
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 05 May 2014, 09:40:11
Don't waste the chance for a pretty pleasant walk on transcription, Helen - make time for both.  :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Helen J on 05 May 2014, 09:50:26
Thanks Janet - I've had the walk, now for the transcription/editing!
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Hanibal94 on 05 May 2014, 11:47:02
88-year old grandmother goes race car driving as part of her bucket list (http://www.wmur.com/news/88yearold-works-to-fulfill-bucket-list/25799882)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 05 May 2014, 16:37:57
I knew it! From now on I am going to transcribe using my pen  ;D

2000 Posts, Nice one Craig.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Craig on 05 May 2014, 17:22:46
I didn't know anyone was counting, Stuart.  ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Caro on 06 May 2014, 02:34:13
The forum software is always counting, Craig.  :)
Greetings all.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 06 May 2014, 02:36:17
Craig.
Now you have spoiled it with 2001.   :'(
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Helen J on 06 May 2014, 05:12:57
Has anyone else noticed that the forum clock is now about 10 minutes behind the rest of the world?  Is this a cunning plan to gradually timeshift us all back to the times when our ships were sailing - an alternative to the Tardis we're always wanting perhaps?
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Randi on 06 May 2014, 07:06:17
It seems to me that it has been behind for quite awhile - although maybe not quite 10 minutes.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Hanibal94 on 06 May 2014, 07:11:53
I noticed it a while ago. But since it's not serious, I didn't think it was worth reporting.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 06 May 2014, 14:13:32
I've noticed they have to change it manually every time Britain switches to summer time and back again, and they stopped being precise about the minutes it is set at years ago.  This is just the biggest gap yet.  I don't really understand why they don't use UTC with this global a community, but again it wasn't important enough to complain about. 
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Helen J on 07 May 2014, 16:54:44
Thanks, Janet, that explains why it's become more dramatically behind recently.  I wasn't complaining, honest, just noticing ...   ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 07 May 2014, 19:07:35
Anybody know what is so exciting in Sitka that would cause 22 crew to be missing AWOL for some days?
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Concord/vol022of040/vol022of040_108_1.jpg (http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Concord/vol022of040/vol022of040_108_1.jpg)

And a  :P to anybody that says it is because of me.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Michael on 07 May 2014, 20:43:43
Anybody know what is so exciting in Sitka that would cause 22 crew to be missing AWOL for some days?
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Concord/vol022of040/vol022of040_108_1.jpg (http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Concord/vol022of040/vol022of040_108_1.jpg)

And a  :P to anybody that says it is because of me.

It didn't seem hugely exciting the last time I was there. Pretty, though. They had bars.

Michael
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 07 May 2014, 21:33:12
Makes you wonder what kind of game was going on in one of those bars.  :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 07 May 2014, 21:50:10
Anybody know what is so exciting in Sitka that would cause 22 crew to be missing AWOL for some days?
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Concord/vol022of040/vol022of040_108_1.jpg (http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Concord/vol022of040/vol022of040_108_1.jpg)

And a  :P to anybody that says it is because of me.

It didn't seem hugely exciting the last time I was there. Pretty, though. They had bars.

Michael


OOPs we are 'At anchor Juneau, Alaska.'    :-[
Next day we go to Sitka.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 07 May 2014, 22:27:15
So, more bars and more ladies.   :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 07 May 2014, 23:26:42
There are not many left to patronize them. %^(
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 08 May 2014, 19:07:50
I got this one from my nephew.  :)

https://www.youtube.com/embed/wighvyxg5d8
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Steeleye on 09 May 2014, 06:32:21
I got this one from my nephew.  :)

https://www.youtube.com/embed/wighvyxg5d8

Would I be right out of line (or betraying my origins) to say that is the most exciting thing that I have ever seen at a baseball game?

Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Craig on 09 May 2014, 07:02:27
Cricket could benefit immensely  from a diversion like this, Steeleye - that and a good book to read  8)

At first I though this was one of those experiments like the gorilla at a basketball that few people noticed.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Hanibal94 on 09 May 2014, 07:39:25
That was great. They should do something that during the upcoming FIFA World Cup - have all the players wear Velociraptor suits.
Then it wouldn't be so boring.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 09 May 2014, 08:41:46
I had an aunt who loved going to baseball games, and did needlepoint during all the boring spots ending up with a very large complex fireplace screen.  Hundreds of hours of needlework with breaks for exciting action.   ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Craig on 09 May 2014, 09:53:42
One could take a laptop and transcribe OW - almost as good as needlepoint  ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Kathy on 09 May 2014, 10:49:13
It is clear that two things have been demonstrated here:

1) People have not really, really watched a baseball game -  ;D

2) People have not really, really watched a soccer (football  ;D ) game  ;D

I too used to be among those that thought both were boring, but then I married someone who was a tremendous soccer fan (and found out that my dad had been offered a scholarship to the University of Oklahoma as a goalie - who knew!) and discovered that soccer is quite action packed.  Also, the Nationals came to town, and I discovered baseball can be a very tense game. What will the next pitch be?  Will this guy be able to foul off the pitch to stay alive, or will he, against all odds, swing for the fences?  AAAHHHH!
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Craig on 09 May 2014, 11:00:08
Actually I used to love watching baseball as a kid. I rooted for the local team but at first I didn't understand it was a farm team. I became so disappointed when our best players were picked up by the majors that I gave it up all together.

I used to love the "World" Series when the Yankees played the Dodgers but that glow wore off too as the number of teams expanded.

Soccer is fun to watch, and so is hockey when it's my grandchildren who are playing (or the Canadian woman's Olympic team!)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Steeleye on 09 May 2014, 12:00:32
I had an aunt who loved going to baseball games, and did needlepoint during all the boring spots ending up with a very large complex fireplace screen.  Hundreds of hours of needlework with breaks for exciting action.   ;D

Needlepoint and baseball sound like an analogy for a well-known description of war (I can't remember the source):
'Long periods of boredom punctuated by brief moments of terror.'
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Steeleye on 09 May 2014, 12:06:46
It is clear that two things have been demonstrated here:

1) People have not really, really watched a baseball game -  ;D


Kathy, I have tried, I really have. I have watched entire games of baseball on TV. However, it just doesn't do anything for me, and I enjoy most sports ... even curling!
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Caro on 09 May 2014, 12:22:02
I love baseball AND I love cricket. So there.  :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Kathy on 09 May 2014, 12:51:03
At least you tried - ;)

Curling is not a sport, it is a vocation!


Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 09 May 2014, 13:37:57
Baseball is a psychological game more than a ball game - either you really like watching how the teams psych each other out - something that is very subtle but never missing - or because you enjoy crowds that almost never are in a frenzy, you bring a book or needlework or crossword puzzles to fill in the blanks and sit back to enjoy yourself.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Randi on 09 May 2014, 15:07:22
asterix135 hasn't been around for quite awhile. Does anyone know if he is OK?
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Hanibal94 on 09 May 2014, 16:54:39
The only thing I enjoy about soccer is watching the players fall flat on their faces.
That, and the things they do when they finally score a goal (like doing backflips or ripping their shirts off!).
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Craig on 09 May 2014, 18:44:19
asterix135 hasn't been around for quite awhile. Does anyone know if he is OK?

Prehaps he's watching a cricket game?
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Hanibal94 on 09 May 2014, 18:53:29
asterix135 hasn't been around for quite awhile. Does anyone know if he is OK?

Prehaps he's watching a cricket game?

Must be quite a long game! He's been gone for over a month.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Caro on 11 May 2014, 04:09:16
Greetings OW.
Damp, gloomy Sunday morning here.
Anybody admit to watching Eurovision? ;) I missed it.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Dean on 11 May 2014, 08:59:20
Sunny and 51?F (10?C) here in western New York State.

 I'm about to head north and hopefully get the S/V Viking Too out for her first run of the season in Lake Ontario.

Lake temp is 40?F (4?C) so it will be a bit 'chilly.'  ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Michael on 11 May 2014, 10:23:30
I'm in Calgary, Alberta, visiting a relative who had a stroke some years ago. He has difficulty speaking so we mainly sit around in a very hot room watching sports. I watched a complete soccer/football game yesterday. No men doing backflips or ripping off shirts: sorry Hanibal  :'(. Then a hockey game: sorry Craig if you're a fan of the Habs  :'( :'( :'(. First complete NHL hockey game I've watched since Toronto won the Stanley cup (1967 for those of you unable to answer that skill testing clue). Also first soccer/football game I've seen since sitting at Arsenal's stadium with my cousin in 1972. (All I remember was that the tea was really bad.)

As for the weather: we had mixed rain and snow with winds north gusting to 50 kmh and a temperature of 3C (37F) yesterday afternoon.   :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Kathy on 11 May 2014, 10:27:41
It is 70 F and sunny here - our only Spring day before Summer hits -  :P
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: AvastMH on 11 May 2014, 13:36:53
Greetings OW.
Damp, gloomy Sunday morning here.
Anybody admit to watching Eurovision? ;) I missed it.

Nope -missed it too - and it sounds like we did relatively well this year - 17th place was it?  ;)
I stayed up til 3 am playing cards with my friends (biannual event). Even did quite well over a couple of games in Bridge, but otherwise had horrid hands -nothing much more than 3 points per deal for those that understand this weird game. Didn't win Black Maria - should have but was too busy yacking to concentrate properly...oopsie!  Did win twice at cribbage ('29s') though, but I tend to think of that as mostly luck rather than skill.  ANYWAY - this all needs paying for so I'm off to transcribe for a short while!  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Thursday Next on 11 May 2014, 13:55:24
Greetings OW.
Damp, gloomy Sunday morning here.
Anybody admit to watching Eurovision? ;) I missed it.

Yes, I confess - I watched it!  I even voted.  Every year I try to resist the temptation, but I always seem to give in.  The Netherlands entry was excellent - if only they'd thought of getting a bearded drag artiste to perform it!
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: AvastMH on 11 May 2014, 14:24:49
 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Caro on 12 May 2014, 11:03:48
An unusual tale: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/blogs-magazine-monitor-27344976
 :o
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Helen J on 12 May 2014, 12:41:20
Classic changeable British weather - after a day of blue skies and sunshine, we've suddenly had torrential rain, with thunder and lightning ....
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Randi on 12 May 2014, 12:59:41
An unusual tale: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/blogs-magazine-monitor-27344976
 :o

As recent events have sadly shown, the cargo and how it is stored are vital.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: jil on 12 May 2014, 13:33:44
Another weird story - Cruise ship plays White Stripes anthem Seven Nation Army using horns (http://metro.co.uk/2014/05/11/cruise-ship-plays-white-stripes-anthem-seven-nation-army-using-horns-4724140/)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 12 May 2014, 13:59:59
Other than me not knowing anything about "white stripes" or "seven nation army", that's a cool way to participate in a festival.  :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Thursday Next on 12 May 2014, 14:04:30
Another weird story - Cruise ship plays White Stripes anthem Seven Nation Army using horns (http://metro.co.uk/2014/05/11/cruise-ship-plays-white-stripes-anthem-seven-nation-army-using-horns-4724140/)

I heard that on the radio this morning.  Now I'm wondering if it just so happens that the particular range of notes on that ship's foghorn mean they can play Seven Nation Army and nothing else.  Or do they have a keyboard and could play anything they chose?
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Randi on 12 May 2014, 14:06:50
Other than me not knowing anything about "white stripes" or "seven nation army", that's a cool way to participate in a festival.  :)
I had to look those up!
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Thursday Next on 12 May 2014, 14:08:17
So me and jil are the cool kidz around here then?  8)  ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: jil on 12 May 2014, 15:05:20
I love a place where I appear to be cool.  ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Thursday Next on 12 May 2014, 15:47:57
Unfortunately I probably wrecked any chance I might have had to be cool when I admitted to watching the Eurovision Song Contest!
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Helen J on 12 May 2014, 15:58:31
That does take a lot of living down!

I had heard of White Stripes, but not of Seven Nation Army - which probably makes me lukewarm ....  8)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Hanibal94 on 12 May 2014, 16:13:06
Good night OW. I'm off to bed.

Here's an interesting bit of naval trivia I found today:

(http://i.crackedcdn.com/phpimages/photoshop/9/5/3/271953.jpg?v=1)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Randi on 12 May 2014, 16:23:50
Good night Hanibal.
I'm off to bed soon myself.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 12 May 2014, 18:20:18
Now that interesting tidbit uncovers just how little research Hollywood does into what is written in screen plays.  :)
When I double checked that, it seems that unless the couple have Japanese passports on a Japanese ship, the only way to pull that marriage at sea off is on a Bermuda liner (http://marriage.about.com/cs/marriagelicenses/ht/marriedatsea.htm).  Thanks for setting me right on this, Hanibal.   :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 12 May 2014, 19:12:14
There's a neat Google Doodle today - I like learning this way about outstanding women.  :)

http://time.com/95873/dorothy-hodgkin-google-doodle/
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Caro on 13 May 2014, 02:33:45
Another weird story - Cruise ship plays White Stripes anthem Seven Nation Army using horns (http://metro.co.uk/2014/05/11/cruise-ship-plays-white-stripes-anthem-seven-nation-army-using-horns-4724140/)

That is hilarious and, yes, a little bit scary.  ;D

Technology news: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-27378834
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 13 May 2014, 04:18:27
I liked this one. Search for
Atari Breakout images or click
Here (https://www.google.com.au/search?q=Atari+Breakout&es_sm=93&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=8tVxU4ScLcbskgW_54D4DQ&ved=0CDAQsAQ&biw=1366&bih=667#imgdii=_)
It brings up a basic game.
Only scored 198 so should be easy for hanibal to bet me. %^)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Hanibal94 on 13 May 2014, 05:14:31
I did indeed "bet" you, Stuart - and on my first try, too!
My right hand is really tense from all that rushing and blocking.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: AvastMH on 13 May 2014, 05:45:38
That is hilarious and, yes, a little bit scary.  ;D
Technology news: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-27378834
Wow!
What would your top 300 books be (OK - let's think about the top 10)?
I'd probably have to have an edition of 'Hornblower', 'Around the World in 80 Days', '20,000 Leagues Beneath the Sea', 'Treasure Island', 'The Tempest', 'Tide and bread and juice' (a recently discovered book by Jane Austen)...that'll do me for now.
 ;) ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Caro on 13 May 2014, 06:57:01
I don't think I could name 300.
I would like Use of Weapons, Hamlet, Catch 22, The Shock of the New, Solaris ...
 ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Craig on 13 May 2014, 10:00:39
I just finished Middlemarch by George Eliot. The best novel I have read in a long time! It is a bit hard to get into, though - perhaps not the best choice for sailors.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: jil on 13 May 2014, 13:31:00
I don't think I could name 300.
I would like Use of Weapons, Hamlet, Catch 22, The Shock of the New, Solaris ...
 ;)
Spookily, I'm currently reading Use of Weapons!
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Randi on 13 May 2014, 13:50:17
Sounds interesting - but maybe confusing too?
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Randi on 13 May 2014, 13:57:04
Christopher Columbus's Santa Maria wreck 'found' (http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-27397579)

Hum, quite a claim :-\
Still, it should be an interesting find if it really dates from that period.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Hanibal94 on 13 May 2014, 14:49:25
Don't even think about asking me to transcribe THOSE logs!!
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Helen J on 13 May 2014, 15:25:30
I suspect they might be rather soggy by now ....

Interested you found that info about captains not being able to marry anyone - I've just got a booklet about Marriage Law for Clergy (I know, I have an exciting life!) - and noticed it had an entry in the list of contents about just that, so of course I turned straight to it, and found a nice straightforward sentence saying captains of ships (also of aircrafts) can't solemnize Anglican marriages.  Given all the regulations, and a myriad of ways of getting it wrong, they ought to be jolly glad they don't have the responsibility.  I'm having nightmares already about the first wedding I'm taking, which isn't until August!
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Randi on 13 May 2014, 16:51:44
Have three priests do it independently and go with the majority...
 ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 13 May 2014, 17:20:13
Be very traditional about filling in all the paperwork, and parish records.  That probably puts you right down the middle of the road to legality without any additional work on your part.  :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Michael on 13 May 2014, 20:33:14
"When in doubt," I say, "have a drink!" My son sent me this list of countries coloured by consumption of alcohol. Surprisingly, we in Canada seem to out-drink those in the country just to the south of us, even though, in some states, they give out free wine samples in grocery stores! Go figure...   ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 13 May 2014, 20:56:04
Sorry to say I have also contributed to Australia being up there with you Canadians.
And this year I intend to ensure we stay there.   ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 13 May 2014, 21:46:34
Quote
... even though, in some states, they give out free wine samples in grocery stores! Go figure...

The thing is, they are tiny samples and then you walk away to finish shopping.  You feel like you've had a drink and don't go looking for more later!  :)

I admit to being surprised that we are less drinkers than Canada, Australia and western Europe - including Britain.  Stories always make you guys sound more sober than us.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Dean on 13 May 2014, 23:03:13
A poem from a friend:

Starkle, starkle, little twink
Who the heck am you I think
Although I not under the affluence of incohol
Many thinkels peep I are. ::)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: AvastMH on 14 May 2014, 03:56:01
So much ice for drinks in Greenland - and no one drinks there - hmmmm ;) ;) ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 14 May 2014, 04:52:29
So much ice for drinks in Greenland - and no one drinks there - hmmmm

Hi Joan.
Wait till Aug 2105 2015 then there will be.   ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Randi on 14 May 2014, 04:56:22
 ??? :-[

There may not be so much ice then though :(



Do you mean 2105 or 2015?
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 14 May 2014, 04:58:16
Looks like it will be just Scotch and WATER then.   ::)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Caro on 14 May 2014, 10:13:35
Maikel has posted on YouTube animations of two planned updates to Journey Plotter.

 Hide future positions: https://www.youtube.com/embed/f8jYvVc7EQc
 Truncated trail: https://www.youtube.com/embed/M7VOFeLOFMI

Clever and lovely work, making good use of all those transcribed lat/longs and, in their absence, place names.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Kathy on 14 May 2014, 16:13:56
bibidibibidibbibidibibidibbibidibibidibbibidibibidib

BREAKING NEWS FROM YOUR REPORTER IN THE FIELD

Washington, DC...

This reporter had the pleasure of attending a talk by Dr. Kevin Wood, NOAA, at the National Archives, regarding the work of Old Weather.  The talk was extremely interesting, with highlights regarding the use of the data transcribed by Old Weather volunteers.  Dr. Wood had cool videos and graphics, based on data from the project.  Dr. Wood had only good things to say about transcribers.  In fact, this reporter found the talk a very nice reminder of why we work on this project in the first place.  KUDOS DR. WOOD!

Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Caro on 14 May 2014, 16:26:20
Thanks for the news, Reporter Kathy, and thank you Dr Wood.  :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Randi on 14 May 2014, 16:36:28
 8) ;D 8) ;D 8)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 14 May 2014, 18:08:42
Thanks, Reporter Kathy.  Thanks, Dr. Wood.  Thanks, transcriber community - we couldn't do it without you.  :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Michael on 14 May 2014, 21:50:28
How about that game 7!!!! Was it  :D or  :'(?
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Hanibal94 on 15 May 2014, 06:51:25
bibidibibidibbibidibibidibbibidibibidibbibidibibidib

BREAKING NEWS FROM YOUR REPORTER IN THE FIELD

Washington, DC...

This reporter had the pleasure of attending a talk by Dr. Kevin Wood, NOAA, at the National Archives, regarding the work of Old Weather.  The talk was extremely interesting, with highlights regarding the use of the data transcribed by Old Weather volunteers.  Dr. Wood had cool videos and graphics, based on data from the project.  Dr. Wood had only good things to say about transcribers.  In fact, this reporter found the talk a very nice reminder of why we work on this project in the first place.  KUDOS DR. WOOD!

This transcriber is very pleased to hear all this!
Can we please get video of the talk? This transcriber very much wishes to see it!
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Thursday Next on 15 May 2014, 07:18:18
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-27407932

Sorry, I know I'm posting about cats again, but I thought this video of a cat saving a child from a dog attack was amazing.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Randi on 15 May 2014, 07:22:34
 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: jil on 15 May 2014, 07:51:02
Wow!

When I was young we had a cat (actually that's not quite right - the cat adopted us) who used to chase the neighbour's German Shepherd. Admittedly it was quite a gentle dog and the cat was a battle-scarred old tom cat.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Thursday Next on 15 May 2014, 08:00:44
I've had an email in connection with Operation War Diary which I thought might interest some of you - I don't think it's gone out to all Zooniverse members, but apologies if you have all already seen it:

We thought you'd be interested to know that the Imperial War Museum has launched its Lives of the First World War project and needs your help to uncover the stories of the millions of men and women who worked on the home front.

The project will serve as a memorial to those brave people. It will also allow you to discover more about your WW1 connections and share memories of them with people online. Get involved in the effort now at www.livesofthefirstworldwar.org

Don't forget, Operation War Diary is still running and needs you help! So far, you and your fellow volunteers have classified almost one third of the diary pages, but there is still plenty to be done. Pick up where you left off at www.operationwardiary.org

Thanks,

Grant & the Operation War Diary Team

PS: Allison Mishkin is a researcher at the Oxford Internet Institute working on a project on participation in different forms of crowdsourcing activities. She'd like to interview Zooniverse volunteers to learn about your experiences on this and other sites. If this sounds like something you might be interested in, please fill out this simple form: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1RBC49HaXvEloTuO-nDdc37Iqx00cTLR24M7sPwbJWQU/viewform.

I've taken a quick look, though did not have time to really go into how it works.  However, contrary to what it says in the email, this project appears to have a much broader base than the home front and it may be an opportunity for some of us to commemorate some of the crew members of our Phase 1 and 2 ships.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Kathy on 15 May 2014, 09:07:23
There was a camera there, but I don't know how to go about getting a video -

Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 15 May 2014, 10:15:05
Kathy - maybe ask Kevin if there will be a recording of that presentation online for the public?

Su - that went out in a Daily Zooniverse, so everyone signed up for that newsletter in all Zoos got it.  I looked at it, and tried searching for the names of a couple of our ship captains.  Bottom line, even with a common name like 'Fisher', very few naval personnel are in their data base.  Good news is, it is set up to collect Navy names and histories.  So yes, we would be able to add some of our crew names.  It is not in the Zooniverse but clearly closely related to both OW and War Diaries.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Hanibal94 on 15 May 2014, 10:46:16
Something amusing I found today...

Frane Selak: The luckiest unlucky man in the world. (https://www.youtube.com/embed/dZyUWLW7kEI)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Randi on 15 May 2014, 13:30:03
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-27407932

Sorry, I know I'm posting about cats again, but I thought this video of a cat saving a child from a dog attack was amazing.

Tara the cat rescues boy from attack by dog (http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-27428819)
Nice followup, aside from one glaring factual error: "The family adopted the stray cat" ::) ::) ::)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 15 May 2014, 14:48:27
That kind of love and loyalty happens often if you adopt a rescue adult animal.  They remember being abandoned and then given a new home and love.  And they value it highly.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Michael on 15 May 2014, 16:20:40
An interesting short video showing a Time History of Atmospheric Carbon Dioxide (https://www.youtube.com/embed/UatUDnFmNTY). It is very worthwhile to get an idea of how far we've come in changing the atmosphere.




changed YouTube link to popup (http://forum.oldweather.org/index.php?topic=536.0) - JJ
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: AvastMH on 15 May 2014, 16:54:39
Something amusing I found today...

Frane Selak: The luckiest unlucky man in the world. (https://www.youtube.com/embed/dZyUWLW7kEI)

Oh boy....I'm surprised he bothered to get out of bed - then again if he'd done THAT he'd never have won the lottery...nice one  :D
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 15 May 2014, 16:55:48
An interesting short video showing a Time History of Atmospheric Carbon Dioxide (https://www.youtube.com/embed/UatUDnFmNTY). It is very worthwhile to get an idea of how far we've come in changing the atmosphere.


Now that is scary.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: AvastMH on 15 May 2014, 17:05:33

Nice followup, aside from one glaring factual error: "The family adopted the stray cat" ::) ::) ::)
Soooooooooooooo true! I say, remembering wistfully back to the balmy summer's evening when I was adopted by a stray cat with a taste for Chinese food... ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Randi on 16 May 2014, 02:54:03
Humm, you and Chinese food - a stray cat with excellent taste! ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 16 May 2014, 05:15:26
Aah, a Chinese stray cat, excellent tasting.  ::)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Randi on 17 May 2014, 02:40:37
Victorian Strangeness: The man who fired a torpedo down a High Street (http://www.bbc.com/news/blogs-magazine-monitor-27440191)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 17 May 2014, 05:24:31
Happy Birthday, DJ

(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-8wMYIOxMRlg/U3csKEWY3dI/AAAAAAAAD3s/4Tg864vonLQ/w790-h496-no/Happy+Birthday.JPG)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Randi on 17 May 2014, 07:48:00
Happy Birthday, DJ !
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Kathy on 17 May 2014, 09:19:33
To DJ on his 111 birthday -

To our beloved moderator DJ,
we all would just like to say,
here are our wishes - the best,
for you in the Pacific Northwest,
on this, your 111th birthday.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Kevin on 18 May 2014, 08:19:00
Kathy - maybe ask Kevin if there will be a recording of that presentation online for the public?

Su - that went out in a Daily Zooniverse, so everyone signed up for that newsletter in all Zoos got it.  I looked at it, and tried searching for the names of a couple of our ship captains.  Bottom line, even with a common name like 'Fisher', very few naval personnel are in their data base.  Good news is, it is set up to collect Navy names and histories.  So yes, we would be able to add some of our crew names.  It is not in the Zooniverse but clearly closely related to both OW and War Diaries.

Yes - National Archives is making a YouTube video with interleaved ppt slides which will be available soon. And thanks to Kathy for coming!
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: AvastMH on 18 May 2014, 11:34:10
A very happy one-day belated birthday DJ!!! Hope you had a good day ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 19 May 2014, 00:55:15
Has anyone seen the Google Doodle for today, celebrating the rubik's cube birthday?  :)


https://www.google.com/webhp?source=search_app
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 19 May 2014, 02:10:52
Couldn't do it then, can't do it now.  %^(
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Caro on 19 May 2014, 02:36:37
Hello OW. Sunny, mid 20s C today. Lovely.  :)

Clever use of technology for citizen science in California:

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bn4T-CgCEAAZcvy.jpg:large)

Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 19 May 2014, 08:18:53
Cool!!!   8)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Michael on 19 May 2014, 10:56:00
Is anyone other us in Canada celebrating Queen Victoria's birthday? As you can imagine, it's especially a big event here in Victoria, B. C. Parades, fireworks, the whole shebang.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Craig on 19 May 2014, 11:01:45
Not only that, we have Charles and Camilla visiting.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: studentforever on 19 May 2014, 11:23:06
The Glasgow area takes a local holiday in her honour next Monday - locally still known as 'The Queen's Birthday' even though it isn't on the exact date.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Helen J on 19 May 2014, 12:44:56
Edinburgh too - though it's Victoria Day there.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: AvastMH on 19 May 2014, 15:41:43
Hello OW. Sunny, mid 20s C today. Lovely.  :)

Clever use of technology for citizen science in California:

What a smart idea! 8) 8)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Dean on 19 May 2014, 20:12:20
Mostly sunny and 15C here. Got the S/V Viking Too out for a short sail in Lake Ontario. Only needed the ski jacket for part of the time! Water temp still around 5C.

Got close to the shipping though.....
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 19 May 2014, 21:15:08
An interesting history for that ship you passed on the lake - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stephen_B._Roman_%28ship%29

A shaky start for what turned out to be a very reliable lady.



Fixed link ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Steeleye on 20 May 2014, 03:22:17
Mid-20s in Moscow today, Comrades! We've just had our first 24 hours without rain in the last two weeks.  Woo-hoo!
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Dean on 20 May 2014, 08:41:51
An interesting history for that ship you passed on the lake - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stephen_B._Roman_%28ship%29

A shaky start for what turned out to be a very reliable lady.



Fixed link ;)

Here is some more data on her! The Boatnerd.com site is a great treasure trove of ship data for 'current' ships. They also publish a yearly directory of ships we are likely to see in the Great Lakes including the 'salties' with lots of info about each. I keep a copy on board!

http://www.boatnerd.com/pictures/fleet/roman.htm
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Randi on 20 May 2014, 08:48:19
 8)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Caro on 20 May 2014, 08:56:56
Boatnerd. Great name, great site.  :)

Hoping you're enjoying your dry day in Moscow, Howard.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Michael on 20 May 2014, 20:59:46
Just when I'd thought I'd seen every crime imaginable on the Concord, we have the following punishment assigned by the Captain: Lagerholm, F. (Cox), Using officers' bathroom for blacking his shoes; reduced to 2nd class.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 20 May 2014, 22:32:02
he really chases the trivia!!
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Randi on 21 May 2014, 01:50:55
 ::) ::) ::)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: AvastMH on 21 May 2014, 04:21:31
Just when I'd thought I'd seen every crime imaginable on the Concord, we have the following punishment assigned by the Captain: Lagerholm, F. (Cox), Using officers' bathroom for blacking his shoes; reduced to 2nd class.

 ;D ;D ;D
Was this a dare for an extra swig of rum? Or perhaps being a Cox 1st Cl was horrid?  ;D ::) ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Michael on 22 May 2014, 18:41:27
More unusual punishments for the crew on the Concord:

The captain awarded the following punishments:- H. Lawrence (Ap. 2. C.), Brats in lucky bag, 2 hours extra duty;

I had to look up brats, obviously lots of references to misbehaving children, but I think this is it:
Middle English cloak of coarse cloth ; from Old English bratt ; from Gaelic mantle, cloth, rag:

A day or two ago, Concord time, someone was given 2 hours extra duty for having his Ditty Box in his Lucky Bag.

I think our captain is bored and, as a result, spends most of his time thinking up new and different offenses.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 22 May 2014, 23:13:25
Remember what happened when I was nice on the last voyage, everybody left.  :o
This time I am keeping them on their toes and they may stay.
After all only 36 have deserted in the last 6 months, must be doing something right.  8)

See how nice I am, it's started snowing in Sitka so I am taking 'the boys' back down south to Frisco.   ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Randi on 23 May 2014, 02:14:58
Lucky Bag (http://forum.oldweather.org/index.php?topic=3209.msg52131#msg52131)

Will add brats ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: propriome on 23 May 2014, 08:23:55
Stuart just asked me a joiner tool, fully showing the two pages instead of central area only...

Same usage as the old one (http://forum.oldweather.org/index.php?topic=3489.msg62862#msg62862)

Here it is - Customized Pommy Stuart version :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Randi on 23 May 2014, 08:38:48
Added!

http://forum.oldweather.org/index.php?topic=3489.msg62862#msg62862
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 23 May 2014, 18:00:48
Stuart just asked me a joiner tool, fully showing the two pages instead of central area only...

Same usage as the old one (http://forum.oldweather.org/index.php?topic=3489.msg62862#msg62862)

Here it is - Customized Pommy Stuart version :)

Thank you.   8)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Randi on 24 May 2014, 07:41:58
Arctic melting may help parasites infect new hosts
Grey seals are encountering a killer microbe as they move north  (https://www.sciencenews.org/article/arctic-melting-may-help-parasites-infect-new-hosts)

Sharks could serve as ocean watchdogs
Tagged with sensors, toothy fish gather weather and climate data in remote Pacific
 (https://www.sciencenews.org/article/sharks-could-serve-ocean-watchdogs)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 24 May 2014, 19:55:39
Very, verry left field from OW but came across this when culling my photo albums.
It may help any OW tourists to the English lake Districts.

Enjoy   ::)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 24 May 2014, 20:51:01
What's the milage on those roads - do they really have a pub every block?  :D
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 25 May 2014, 00:16:21
Approx distances for each route line inc out and back on some legs.
Number of Pubs include intersections and wrong turns.

130 miles on the Green line and white . 45 pubs
40 miles on the Black line. 28 pubs
70 miles on the top red line. 24 pubs
40 miles on the bottom red line (via Hardnott Pass which is a killer for Bicycle riding). 19 pubs
60 miles on the Grey line. 22 pubs
9 miles on the joined yellowish lines at the bottom. 11 pubs
and a few short routes with about 8 pubs.
But who is counting.   8)

That is only the ones on the map, there are a lot of great pubs not shown.
See also http://blog.golakes.co.uk/top-ten-lake-district-pubs/ (http://blog.golakes.co.uk/top-ten-lake-district-pubs/)


If I had the money I would seriously have a pint in every one.
It is a lovely part of the country to see (when the weather is good) and has an atmosphere even when not good as that is an excuse for another pint.   ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 25 May 2014, 00:48:33
Sounds absolutely beautiful.  Short hike, rest break, repeat 100 times.  :)

Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 25 May 2014, 01:14:40
In some parts of England you can get your luggage transported from one overnight Pub stop to the next whilst you enjoy the walking over the fells and moors etc and enjoy a beer without worrying about driving.

See the likes of http://www.innway.co.uk/ (http://www.innway.co.uk/) and http://foottrails.co.uk/inn-to-inn-walking/ (http://foottrails.co.uk/inn-to-inn-walking/)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 25 May 2014, 09:38:13
No where in the US will they do that!  Nice.  :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 25 May 2014, 16:53:33
Hi Janet.
If you keep it quiet, there has to be a business opportunity there for you.   ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 25 May 2014, 17:57:14
Sydney weather records.
http://www.smh.com.au/environment/weather/climate-angst-rises-with-record-temperatures-20140523-38uek.html (http://www.smh.com.au/environment/weather/climate-angst-rises-with-record-temperatures-20140523-38uek.html)

Bring on the cool weather.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Helen J on 26 May 2014, 06:54:30
You can have some of ours, Stuart!  Bank Holiday monday, grey and damp, not especially warm ....  Which means I have two visiting cats, one on the bed, and one on my only comfortable chair, and therefore no option but to get on with transcribing or editing!  ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: studentforever on 26 May 2014, 14:25:59
You could always persuade a cat to double as a hot water bottle or do they only do that in heatwaves.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Helen J on 26 May 2014, 14:41:55
The problem with cat as hot water bottle is that they tend to demand total attention as the price for their presence, which makes transcribing impossible - choices, choices!
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Michael on 26 May 2014, 15:21:14
The problem with cat as hot water bottle is that they tend to demand total attention as the price for their presence, which makes transcribing impossible - choices, choices!

I don't know about that. I've been taught by my two cats to transcribe OW with them on my lap (only one at a time, though).
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Helen J on 26 May 2014, 15:35:38
Well, either your cats are less demanding than my visitors, or I'm less trainable .... could be either, or a mixture of both.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Randi on 26 May 2014, 16:05:34
Silvia transcribes with cats http://forum.oldweather.org/index.php?topic=1240.msg30815#msg30815 ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: studentforever on 26 May 2014, 16:10:35
It was knitting that freaked my mother's cat - he just HAD to sit on it.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: camiller on 26 May 2014, 19:23:54
Just had to put my cat on the floor; he was hogging up the keyboard and the mousepad!


Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: studentforever on 27 May 2014, 02:28:37
Obviously he wanted to play with the same digital toys as mistress.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: AvastMH on 27 May 2014, 04:44:47
I had a cat in pre-computer days. I was a greater paper correspondent in those days. Tocksie used to lay on the table just beyond the writing zone - happy to wait for the odd extra stroke of his head as I paused for thought. Sweetie. :-)  :-* :-* :-*
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Hanibal94 on 27 May 2014, 05:05:09
When I was still living in the family home, the cat would often come up and sit next to my laptop, but never on top of it.
Usually she would lie down behind it, but once she positioned herself right where my mouse usually is.
So I simply put the mouse pad on top of her and kept going.
To my surprise she was actually quite cool with it.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Randi on 27 May 2014, 08:25:55
(http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/images/75069000/jpg/_75069135_whistlers_mother_fatcatart.jpg)

Arrangement in Grey, Black and Ginger. Whistler's Mother and the Cat,
based on James Abbott McNeill Whistler's Arrangement in Grey and Black No 1
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Randi on 27 May 2014, 08:27:21
(http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/images/75069000/jpg/_75069139_vasnetsov_viktor_heroes_bog.jpg)

Heroes (Bogatyri), based on Viktor Vasnetsov
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 27 May 2014, 08:32:01
 ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Randi on 27 May 2014, 08:50:58
Trust your doctor, not Wikipedia, say scientists (http://www.bbc.com/news/health-27586356)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 27 May 2014, 11:44:00
Now that I totally believe.  They weren't noting that the info was "all wrong" but rather "out of date" - which can be very much the same thing and much more dangerous in that it can be "confirmed".  I'd rather go to a totally controlled medical source like http://www.webmd.com/ - they explain symptoms but the most frequent recommended treatment for something like elbow pain is, "that totally depends on the cause of the pain; please ask your doctor."  It makes me trust them more.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Michael on 27 May 2014, 11:52:48
Nahhh! I believe in the healing powers of crystals...   ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: AvastMH on 27 May 2014, 12:03:29
The Romans believed in cabbage - not so pretty as crystals and quite lumpy when hung in the window - but not so likely to focus the sun and set your house on fire. ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Michael on 27 May 2014, 12:20:27
I need help with translation! Is Toby just stretching his back, or is he telling me he wants me to take him for a walk?

Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 27 May 2014, 12:38:58
"Iz wantz out to explore BY MYSELF NOW!"

'I am the Cat who walks by himself, and all places are alike to me.'  -Kipling
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: AvastMH on 27 May 2014, 12:44:18
paws on the front of the knob = stretching my back: paws on the side of the knob = crossing legs is too undignified for a cat so let me out for a trip round the flower patch NOW!  ;D ::)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Craig on 27 May 2014, 13:40:04
Our Siamese cat used to jump up and attempt to twist the knob with two paws on either side of it. I don't think she ever succeeded but we certainly knew what she wanted.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: camiller on 27 May 2014, 16:45:02
Definitely outside time.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Michael on 27 May 2014, 19:35:50
OK, I heard you all; more importantly Toby heard you all..   ;) There we are...  (Actually, it's an old picture. Right now it's 18 C and sunny.)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: camiller on 27 May 2014, 20:20:08
 :D  Toby has his eye on something...
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 27 May 2014, 20:27:18
Yep - that's what he wanted.   ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: AvastMH on 28 May 2014, 07:10:31
Toby looks like a mini black panther...bet that tail was swishing.... :D
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Helen J on 28 May 2014, 11:38:48
I'm impressed by anyone who can get a cat to go for a walk on a lead!

On another note entirely, there's a series about the British Navy in the twentieth century starting on BBC Radio 4 next Monday at 1.45pm - could be worth looking out for.  I'm not sure whether it's just for that week, Monday to Friday, or whether it might extend into future weeks too - the programmes in that slot vary.

Just checked it out - 15 episodes!
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b0457rmz
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Thursday Next on 28 May 2014, 15:20:34
And there is an omnibus edition at 9pm on Fridays.

There is an accompanying article in BBC History magazine: "What the modern navy did for us".  The first thing on the list is "...won the First World War".  Admiral Lord West asserts that as well as preventing an invasion, the navy chalked up three further achievements: defeated the German submarine fleet; transported millions of troops and their supplies to and from the battlefields; and: "Its third triumph was a little-heralded war-winner: the blockade of Germany."   8)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Helen J on 28 May 2014, 15:24:32
Well, we knew all that already - but it's good that it's being shared with others!  I wonder whether there's any way of sneaking some advertising of OW into this?
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Randi on 28 May 2014, 15:25:40
Its fourth triumph - weather records! ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Helen J on 28 May 2014, 15:27:33
Yes, of course!  ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Thursday Next on 28 May 2014, 15:31:17
Well, we knew all that already - but it's good that it's being shared with others!  I wonder whether there's any way of sneaking some advertising of OW into this?

I would imagine it is too late for that - I suspect all episodes would have been recorded a while back.  But so many people seem to think the navy didn't really do anything in WW1 so it's good that someone is trying to set the record straight.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Caro on 29 May 2014, 12:26:25
Does anyone need cheering up?

https://www.youtube.com/embed/DePFiF-nNoE#t=95
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Michael on 29 May 2014, 16:26:30
Toby looks like a mini black panther...bet that tail was swishing.... :D
Toby says you're his most favourite-ist person in the whole world because you have truly understood his inner self and true nature.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Craig on 30 May 2014, 07:17:59
Another benefit from transcribing OW:

I occasionally wake up about 3 or 4AM and can't get back to sleep because my mind is too busy. But rather than lie there wasting time, I get up and transcribe OW. After an hour I get sleepy, go back to bed and fall asleep immediately.

So we should advertise the soporific effects of OW for insomniacs  ;D  (Of course,  for the best effect you should chose a ship with full weather pages and boring remarks)


.... the clincher to this ad  - I woke up so refreshed that I did another 300 WRs  ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: AvastMH on 30 May 2014, 08:35:17
Toby looks like a mini black panther...bet that tail was swishing.... :D
Toby says you're his most favourite-ist person in the whole world because you have truly understood his inner self and true nature.

Thanks Toby - I try to stay in contact with my inner cat.
Head butts,
Joan
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: studentforever on 30 May 2014, 12:45:43
For maximum soporific effect I recommend the ship in dry dock - that can make me feel sleepy at 9am!
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Helen J on 30 May 2014, 14:27:22
Pioneer should probably be on the 'soporific' list - WRs vary from 6 to 24, but there's little of note on the remarks page ....  May not sound like much of a sales pitch, but for insomniacs it's just what the doctor ordered.  :D
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Helen J on 30 May 2014, 14:28:21
Pioneer should probably be on the 'soporific' list - WRs vary from 6 to 24, but there's little of note on the remarks page ....  May not sound like much of a sales pitch, but for insomniacs it's just what the doctor ordered.  :D
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Hanibal94 on 30 May 2014, 15:46:24
You do seem to be suffering from sleep problems, Helen - why else would you post the exact same thing twice?
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Michael on 30 May 2014, 18:41:00
For maximum soporific effect I recommend the ship in dry dock - that can make me feel sleepy at 9am!
Only if the ship isn't the Concord. When she's in drydock, or an American port, the number of desertions skyrockets. Then, too, are the people over leave, or returning drunk and disorderly and, of course, the captain punishing a long list of offenders every other day. Not that I want to deter you from helping us out!
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Helen J on 31 May 2014, 06:15:19
You do seem to be suffering from sleep problems, Helen - why else would you post the exact same thing twice?

Whole thing was doing strange things yesterday - it looked as though my comment hadn't posted, so I did it again - hence repeat!
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Craig on 31 May 2014, 06:31:47
You didn't look sleepy to me, Helen. I knew there must be another explanation  ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Dean on 31 May 2014, 07:42:34
Another benefit from transcribing OW:

I occasionally wake up about 3 or 4AM and can't get back to sleep because my mind is too busy. But rather than lie there wasting time, I get up and transcribe OW. After an hour I get sleepy, go back to bed and fall asleep immediately.

So we should advertise the soporific effects of OW for insomniacs  ;D  (Of course,  for the best effect you should chose a ship with full weather pages and boring remarks)


.... the clincher to this ad  - I woke up so refreshed that I did another 300 WRs  ;D

That's when I did much of the work on Ark Royal! (Always CHECK it the next day because Janet says we 'insomniac nightowls' sometimes miss things.)  ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Thursday Next on 01 June 2014, 15:01:49
Happy Birthday, Helen!

I think?
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Randi on 01 June 2014, 15:34:52
YES ;D
A good bit further north - but I can remember snow one year on my birthday - which is June 1st.  I don't suppose it's been mentioned as a notable event though ....


Happy Birthday, Helen!
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Helen J on 01 June 2014, 15:35:47
Yes, today's the day!  Thank you very much.  As you can see, I'm doing one of my favourite things to celebrate another year ....
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Hanibal94 on 01 June 2014, 15:53:04
Happy Birthday, Helen!

Have a Star Wars cake:

Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Kathy on 01 June 2014, 16:02:42
To Helen on her 111th Birthday

Another year before the mast,
A year of change and growth is past,
We raise a glass, and raise a cheer -
Happy Birthday to Helen, from far and near!
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: studentforever on 01 June 2014, 16:24:06
Just getting in before the witching hour -

Happy Birthday

Helen
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Caro on 01 June 2014, 17:08:41
Happy birthday, Helen.

 :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 01 June 2014, 17:21:47
Happy Birthday, Helen!

                   (http://www.smileyvault.com/albums/userpics/13911/0003~4.gif)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Dean on 01 June 2014, 17:26:12
Helen

   Happy Birthday to you,
   Happy Birthday to you,
   Happy Birthday dear Heeeeellllllllllllllleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeennnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn,
   Happy Birthday to you!

Hope it's a happy one and that you get lots of neat presents!

Hope also you get to share with family!   ;D ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: camiller on 01 June 2014, 17:31:36
Happy Birthday, Helen!
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 01 June 2014, 17:34:03
My we are an old lot with DJ and Helen at 111 Yo (By the way Happy Birthday Helen)

I feel positively young as my next is only 42h (or as we say down under 60 + GST)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Kathy on 01 June 2014, 17:38:13
We are all 111 -  ;D

Can you tell me where that age came from?  :P

Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 01 June 2014, 17:41:25
No idea.  :-[

maybe it's a feel good age as you feel better being younger than that age.  :-\
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Kathy on 01 June 2014, 18:15:28
I recommend for your reading pleasure, the masterwork of Mr. J.R.R. Tolkien -
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 01 June 2014, 18:32:20
Aaaah, eleventy-one.   But ??     ::)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: AvastMH on 01 June 2014, 18:53:25
Happy Birthday, Helen!

Have a Star Wars cake:

HAPPY BIRTHDAY HELENJ
Just signed in for 2 minutes - only to find that I nearly missed your birthday, Helen. Picking up on Hannibal's lead - may the force be with you! (Well - we know it is - but perhaps an extra allowance today eh?)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Craig on 01 June 2014, 20:40:26
Happy birthday, Helen. I am guessing Kathy is using base 7 so that you are really only 57 today.

Does anyone know the Tom Leher? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tom_Lehrer. He wrote a song in the 60's called The New Math. He said base 8 is just like base 10 ... if you're missing two fingers.  ;D  Base 8 would make you an septuagenarian and it would be indelicate on my part to suggest it - not that there's anything wrong with that. I kind of enjoy it. I will be 131 7 in a few days.  ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 01 June 2014, 21:49:53
or 0x6f, (but that just does not roll of the tongue well.) (Hex)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Michael on 01 June 2014, 21:55:52
Happy birthday, Helen! May you enjoy many more!!!!  (We need you to live long and transcribe!   ;D) Toby sends his love,

Michael
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Randi on 02 June 2014, 02:46:10
Cloudy forecast - The biggest source of climate uncertainty is white and fluffy (https://www.sciencenews.org/article/cloudy-forecast)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Craig on 02 June 2014, 03:56:18
That's an excellent article, Randi. It provides a very nuanced view of the problems facing modelers (and without any jargon). At first, when reading it, I thought the cloud information we are transcribing might be useful but it seems that it takes very sophisticated satellites to understand the complexity of clouds and the information they have been collecting only since 2006 may not continue unless governments launch new satellites after 2018 (when the existing and planned ones will no longer be useful). And it will take a time series of about 30 years to establish a reliable relationship between clouds and warming.  The article mentions the stall in warming since 1998 and how this has increased the uncertainty in the relationship between CO2 and warming. But that brings up another uncertainty, which is the role of the oceans. Although the surface temperature has not increased significantly since 1998, the earth as a whole has, with most of the heat going into the oceans. It is expected that much of this heat will eventually be transferred into the atmosphere. When this will happen depend on decadal and longer ocean currents such as El Nino, which could be very strong this year.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Hanibal94 on 02 June 2014, 05:45:06
Happy birthday, Helen. I am guessing Kathy is using base 7 so that you are really only 57 today.

Does anyone know the Tom Leher? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tom_Lehrer. He wrote a song in the 60's called The New Math. He said base 8 is just like base 10 ... if you're missing two fingers.  ;D  Base 8 would make you an septuagenarian and it would be indelicate on my part to suggest it - not that there's anything wrong with that. I kind of enjoy it. I will be 131 7 in a few days.  ;D

In 11 days, I will be 10100, 24, 20 and 14 all at the same time  ;) ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Craig on 02 June 2014, 05:54:01
base 2,  base 8, base 10 and base 16  ;D

We have lots of June birthdays.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Craig on 02 June 2014, 06:02:05
or 0x6f, (but that just does not roll of the tongue well.) (Hex)

We used to have to deal with Hex a long time ago with IBM. The "core dumps" came out in hexadecimal. If I remember correctly this was because a "word" was 16 bits (or 2 bytes).  This is something well worth forgetting  ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: studentforever on 02 June 2014, 06:19:07
Yes, I too remember dealing with binary, octel and hex,  Of course  we still use the Babylonian base 60 system (time, geometry & navigation) although we now write it in ordinary decimal.  Then of course there is the scientific stuff using base e as in 'natural logs'.  Keeps the grey cells active, I suppose.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Craig on 02 June 2014, 06:41:28
Because of the US we still get plans for various projects in imperial measures, even though Canada is supposedly on metric. I was following a plan to make a pine artists table for my wife and working in inches is a pain in the foot. How's this for instructions:

Quote
To make the notch: At the right-angled end of the leg, starting precisely from one of the corners, draw a line at a 22? angle parallel to the cut at the other end. Then draw a line at 90? to the 22? line. This (right-angled) notch measures 1 3/4" x 3/4".

Well, this didn't work because a nominal 2x4 is supposed to be 1 1/2 inches on the narrow side but it was only 1 and 7/16, which means I had a 1/8" gap in the notch to receive a 2 x 4 >:(

Are these things easier in Europe or Australia?
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Randi on 02 June 2014, 06:58:01
...  The article mentions the stall in warming since 1998 and how this has increased the uncertainty in the relationship between CO2 and warming. But that brings up another uncertainty, which is the role of the oceans. ...

Strong winds may have waylaid global warming - Gusts over the Pacific may have stashed heat underwater since 2001
(https://www.sciencenews.org/article/strong-winds-may-have-waylaid-global-warming)
 ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Helen J on 02 June 2014, 07:01:53
Thank you for all your birthday wishes - hanibal, that cake looked amazing, just a pity it's not possible to actually send such delights via the forum!  (though probably a good thing for our collective waistlines ....)

All the bases counting is gobbleydook to me, so I don't think I can manage any clever comment!  Thanks, Kathy for the birthday poem, and Michael, please thank Toby for his greeting.

It's going to be quite a month, with my ordination to the priesthood, preceded by a retreat, (ordination on 22nd); and then my first eucharist a week later.  So I may not be around quite as much as usual - but don't worry, I'll be back!
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Randi on 02 June 2014, 07:03:46
Enjoy it all!
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Kathy on 02 June 2014, 07:11:00
wait, what, I thought you were already an ordained priest - cough up the dets sister  ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 02 June 2014, 09:22:10
If CofE is like the American Episcopal church, she was ordained deacon first and then had to put in training time under a parish priest before the real thing makes her a priest herself.  :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Kathy on 02 June 2014, 09:28:46
I know, I thought she was a deacon already - :o
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 02 June 2014, 10:18:20
So did I, until this last post - but for sure she was a Fransciscan nun who decided to become a priest.  :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Helen J on 02 June 2014, 11:55:30
To answer Kathy and Janet's questions - until last year I was (simply) a Franciscan sister, and still am; then I was ordained a deacon.  I've been doing my year of that, and having not done anything terrible (!) am now going to be ordained as a priest.  This should really be the final palaver - the only further ordination after that is as a bishop, and there is no chance at all that I'm going to be asked to do that!  I do however have to carry on as a curate in training for a further two years - it's all a very long process ....
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Kathy on 02 June 2014, 12:38:30
Is this ordination also at Hilfield?  and when?  Nosy Parkers erp, Inquiring minds want to know!
 ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Helen J on 02 June 2014, 13:22:19
No, this one is at Dorchester Abbey (in Oxfordshire) - with four other people, so I haven't had to do as much organising this time!  It's one of five ordinations of priests which happen that weekend, in different places all around this (very big) diocese.  'My' service is on 22nd June at 10.30am.  Then my first eucharist is on 29th June at one of the local churches in which I've been doing my curacy - St Peter and St Paul, Church Hanborough. 
Inquiring minds always welcome!
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Dean on 02 June 2014, 16:52:07
I think Bishop Helen J has a very nice ring to it!!! ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Randi on 02 June 2014, 17:00:03
 ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Michael on 02 June 2014, 17:52:22
No, this one is at Dorchester Abbey (in Oxfordshire) - with four other people, so I haven't had to do as much organising this time!  It's one of five ordinations of priests which happen that weekend, in different places all around this (very big) diocese.  'My' service is on 22nd June at 10.30am.  Then my first eucharist is on 29th June at one of the local churches in which I've been doing my curacy - St Peter and St Paul, Church Hanborough. 
Inquiring minds always welcome!

Hurrah for you, Helen. A big step. I looked up your church on the internet - what a lovely building. I trust your ordination will be a wonderful ceremony.

Michael
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 02 June 2014, 18:19:29
Congratulations and good wishes.  A wonderful journey you are on.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: studentforever on 03 June 2014, 02:10:41
Best wishes for your next big day and the first time you celebrate the Eucharist.  I hope you, your friends and family and your new parishioners have many good memories of these next few days.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Craig on 03 June 2014, 04:34:18
A no-gobbledygook sincere congratulations from me too, Helen.

Craig
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 03 June 2014, 06:04:09
"
Stuart.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: camiller on 03 June 2014, 13:17:57
Congratulations, Helen!
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Caro on 07 June 2014, 02:56:13
It may or may not be Craig's birthday, so I will say it anyway.  :)

Happy birthday Craig!
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Randi on 07 June 2014, 02:57:53
*********************
Craig
Happy 21'st Birthday
     
*********************

(Although I may be a day or so off... :-[)





Quote from: AustralianMedia.com
Birthday Celebrations.Net

Traditions from Around the World:

Birthday Celebrations from Canada

    In Canada at birthday parties they serve homemade birthday cakes decorated with colored sugar sprinkles. Between the layers of the cake a wrapped coin might be found. Whomever finds it is the first to get a turn at all the party games.

    At the parties children receive colorful party favors called crackers. These are tubes wrapped in crepe paper. They pop when you pull a paper strip. Inside there is a small prize, your fortune or a hat.

    The official language in most parts is English, but, in Quebec the language is French.

    In Atlantic Canada such as Nova Scotia, Prince Edward Island and Newfoundland, the birthday child is ambushed and their nose is greased for good luck. The greased nose makes the child too slippery for bad luck to catch them. This tradition is reputed to be of Scottish decent.

    In Canada the sweet sixteen party is held for the girls. The symbol for the sweet sixteen party is sugar.



Caro just beat me to it ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Craig on 07 June 2014, 06:12:10
Thank you both!  Were you peeking back into last-years Chat messages to find my birth date (which was yesterday but I am being feted today)?

Twenty-one is a good age. That makes me five years older than my oldest grandson  ;D

Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Caro on 07 June 2014, 06:23:31
All of that information has been duly noted.  ;)
Hope you had a good day, Craig.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Randi on 07 June 2014, 07:10:11
Thank you both!  Were you peeking back into last-years Chat messages to find my birth date (which was yesterday but I am being feted today)?

Twenty-one is a good age. That makes me five years older than my oldest grandson  ;D

Yes:
Thanks Jill and Kathy! I am being coy about the precise date for security reasons, although it's probably too late for that  ;D

When I was in junior high school we did "new math". As a result I have always been comfortable with different bases, sets, and things like that, but I'm not very good at math in my head and I never quite memorized my times tables :-[
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Craig on 07 June 2014, 07:21:59
As Tom Leher's song about new math goes, "the important thing understanding the problem, not getting the right answer"  ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 07 June 2014, 07:58:30
Happy Birthday, Craig!!
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Hanibal94 on 07 June 2014, 10:14:59
Happy Birthday to you, Craig! Keep transcribing hard, buddy.

Here's a present for you: Cat plays Jenga (https://www.youtube.com/embed/rOyZojbYUEA)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Michael on 07 June 2014, 10:31:35
Best wishes Craig, from Canada's most western capital city, and no it's not Victoria! Did you get the wrapped coin in your cake?

HAPPY BIRTHDAY, CRAIG!!!
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: AvastMH on 07 June 2014, 14:30:20
HAPPY BIRTHDAY FOR YESTERDAY CRAIG
I WISH YOU MANY MORE....


Joan  :D :D :D

Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Kathy on 07 June 2014, 19:37:25
To Craig in his 111 birthday =

Lets all raise a glass of good cheer -
but wait, doesn't he like to drink beer?
Oh well, from all of us here,
Best wishes to you, my dear!
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Craig on 07 June 2014, 21:58:14
Thanks to you all for your good wishes!

A fine frosty glass of Heineken
Was indeed a pleasure of mine again
But your toast of good cheer
Surpassed the best beer
And called for the finest of wine a' ken.

(I have no idea what the last line means but at least it rhymes  ;D)





Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Kathy on 08 June 2014, 00:08:18
 ;D  ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Caro on 08 June 2014, 03:28:37
 ;D Craig, maybe you meant 'ye ken', in the Scottish way.

Good day, sunshine.

Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: jil on 08 June 2014, 04:59:05
There's just been an excellent piece on BBC Radio 4's Broadcasting House (http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b045xz2f) by Emma Jane Kirby about her Grandfather William who served as a boy on HMS Vengeance. I'm not sure of the exact dates he was on board but they mention 1916 and 1918.

It starts about 30 minutes into the program.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Craig on 08 June 2014, 06:56:13
;D Craig, maybe you meant 'ye ken', in the Scottish way.

Good day, sunshine.

That's exactly what I meant, Caro. Thanks!  ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: studentforever on 08 June 2014, 08:11:42
Could be Glaswegian when 'a'  ken' could be 'I know'.  There is a book titled 'Parliamo Glasgow' which aims to decode the Glasgow vernacular [There was a TV series Parliamo Italy  or similar on at the time].
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Craig on 08 June 2014, 08:57:59
I have an ancestor with my surname who got his degree at the U. of Glasgow.  That probably explains my Scottish ken.  ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Caro on 08 June 2014, 10:34:56
The things you learn on this forum.  ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: AvastMH on 08 June 2014, 17:10:02
 ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Dean on 08 June 2014, 17:22:22
Craig

   Happy Birthday to you,
   Happy Birthday to you,
   Happy Birthday dear Crrrrrraaaaaaaaaiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiggggggggggggggggggggggg,
   Happy Birthday to you!

Hope it's a happy one and that you got lots of neat presents!

Hope also you got to share with family!
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: camiller on 08 June 2014, 20:40:18
 A belated HAPPY BIRTHDAY, Craig!
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 08 June 2014, 21:11:44
Ditto from Stuart.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Craig on 09 June 2014, 05:59:21
Thanks everyone!

Time to move on now. I am working on my next year  (or rather, it's working on me)  ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Randi on 09 June 2014, 06:31:04
 ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Michael on 09 June 2014, 10:00:41
Sunday, June 8, 2014  U. S. M. V. LeConte
Moored to Alaska Marine Highway Wharf, Haines, Alaska

1 PM | SE | 9 | 29.84 | 54 | 48 | - | ocr | STR CUM-STR NIM | 0 |

or, as the official report had it:

METAR PAHN 082054Z AUTO 12009KT 9SM -RA SCT013 BKN021 OVC060 12/09
 A2984 RMK AO2 RAB35 SLP106 P0000 60000 T01170089 51008 TSNO=

or, as we would say,
spent 24 hours in Haines, Alaska visiting friends. It was cold and raining the entire time.

 :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Michael on 09 June 2014, 10:36:30
Haines, Alaska.

While we were having tea in the morning, I could see an eagle going after something in the water. We thought it was a fish - our view was obscured by low bushes. The eagle would hover over the water and swoop down, over and over. We went outside to watch, and we could see the eagle was after a small duck. The duck was watching the eagle, and whenever the eagle came down, the duck would dive under the water. The eagle tried for about 10 or 15 minutes, but it finally gave up. At that point, the duck flew off to live another day.

Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Randi on 09 June 2014, 13:31:19
 ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 09 June 2014, 13:48:58
Welcome back Michael.
Haines looks lovely on the Gold Rush show.
Did you visit Parker?

Weather at home
SPECI YGLB 091800Z AUTO 18006KT //// // SCT009 OVC018 06/06 Q1030
RMK RF00.0/001.0

Or as we would say.
Dark outside (as it is only 4am) and I am going back to bed.
%^)

Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Michael on 09 June 2014, 15:12:50
Still in Canada's most westerly city and, no, it's not Victoria. We're just lining up visits with friends so as to maximise our chances to cadge free meals.  ;D   

Back to Victoria on Thursday. In the meantime:

Observed at:     Whitehorse Airport
Date:                12:00 PM PDT Monday 9 June 2014

Condition:     Mostly Cloudy
Pressure:     101.5 kPa
Tendency:     rising
Visibility:       64 km
Temperature:     13.2?C
Dewpoint:            0.3?C
Humidity:              41%
Wind:             ESE 5 km/h

Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Helen J on 09 June 2014, 15:52:15
Brilliant picture, Michael.  As a lover of both eagles and ducks, I don't know who I'd have been rooting for if I'd been watching.  Probably the duck in the end - hopefully the eagle found another meal of something less attractive!
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Caro on 09 June 2014, 16:12:05
Go duck!  :)
Today is Donald Duck's 80th birthday.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Craig on 09 June 2014, 17:47:30
I wonder if the froze him like they did Walt Disney?
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 09 June 2014, 18:03:48
Nope - cartoon characters are immortal, they never die.  :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Craig on 09 June 2014, 18:05:54
I haven't seen him for a duck's age.  ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 09 June 2014, 18:41:29
I heard he went Kwakers and they put him away.  %^)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 09 June 2014, 19:35:04
Retired isn't the same as dead - as a great many of us OWers know.  ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Dean on 10 June 2014, 09:27:58
Retired isn't the same as dead - as a great many of us OWers know.  ;)

RETIRED??!!  I'm so busy I don't know if I just found a rope or lost my horse!   ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Caro on 12 June 2014, 02:24:01
Good morning/afternoon/evening Old Weather.

I heard a rumour that the World Cup kicks off today.  ::)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Randi on 12 June 2014, 02:28:57
Retired isn't the same as dead - as a great many of us OWers know.  ;)

RETIRED??!!  I'm so busy I don't know if I just found a rope or lost my horse!   ;)

I sure hope it is not a mooring rope!
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: studentforever on 12 June 2014, 05:38:18
Between the referendum and World Cup I feel like going into a retreat!
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Dean on 12 June 2014, 08:08:28
Retired isn't the same as dead - as a great many of us OWers know.  ;)

RETIRED??!!  I'm so busy I don't know if I just found a rope or lost my horse!   ;)

I sure hope it is not a mooring rope!

 ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Kathy on 12 June 2014, 11:52:08
ole, ole, ole, ole!
 ;D

Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Caro on 12 June 2014, 12:38:31
... ole, ole!  ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Helen J on 12 June 2014, 12:53:48
Between the referendum and World Cup I feel like going into a retreat!

Just make sure you take your computer and keep transcribing/editing! 
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Randi on 13 June 2014, 01:49:49
Hanibal94
Happy  202'nd  Birthday
to You


(http://img1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20140425223643/mlp/images/d/d7/FANMADE_RD_Birthday_Cake_by_gezawatt-d750v4g.png)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Caro on 13 June 2014, 02:36:44
Happy birthday Hanibal!
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 13 June 2014, 03:30:22
alles Gute zum Geburtstag Hanibal.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: AvastMH on 13 June 2014, 04:25:30
A very happy birthday to you Hanibal!
All the best,
Joan




(http://imageshack.com/a/img850/8346/oz6n.jpg)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 13 June 2014, 06:40:06
Happy Birthday, Hanibal!!!

(http://img1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20111008164557/mlpfanart/images/d/da/Happy_Birthday._yay.jpg)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Randi on 13 June 2014, 10:11:06
We interrupt the tributes to a dazzling personality to bring you:
World War One 'Dazzle Ship' recreated in Liverpool (http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-27824910)
 ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Caro on 13 June 2014, 10:13:49
Isn't she a beauty?  ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Randi on 13 June 2014, 10:32:39
Well, she's colorful... ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Craig on 13 June 2014, 10:33:51
Indeed.

Picking up the tribute ...

Happy Birthday, Hanibal!
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Helen J on 13 June 2014, 11:58:22
Happy birthday, Hanibal!  Another June birthday - it's obviously a good month for recruiting for OW.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Kathy on 13 June 2014, 12:45:51
To Hanibal on his 111th birthday -

To a valuable part of this crew,
Tried, tested and true -
We all want to say,
Hope you have a great day -
and extend our best wishes to you!
 
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Thursday Next on 13 June 2014, 14:07:19
For those of us in the UK, Front Row on Radio 4 (started 7.15pm) has just trailed that they will be featuring the dazzle ships story later in the programme.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Michael on 13 June 2014, 20:31:26
Happy Birthday, Hanibal!!!

From the southern tip of Vancouver Island where the weather is so much more pleasant than it was North of 60.

Michael
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Dean on 13 June 2014, 22:28:16
Hanibal

   Happy Birthday to you,
   Happy Birthday to you,
   Happy Birthday dear Haaaaaaannnnnnnniiiiiiiiibbbbbbbbbbbbbaaaaaaaaaaaaallllllllllllllllllllllllllllll,
   Happy Birthday to you!

Hope it's a happy one and that you get lots of neat presents!

Hope also you get to share with family!
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: jil on 14 June 2014, 11:14:07
For those of us in the UK, Front Row on Radio 4 (started 7.15pm) has just trailed that they will be featuring the dazzle ships story later in the programme.
Thanks! I's missed that. I really must get round to going to the Liverpool Maritime Museum.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Caro on 14 June 2014, 11:20:23
For UK listeners who missed the story of the dazzle ships : http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b0460znc
It's about 14 minutes in.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Helen J on 14 June 2014, 14:01:52
The Met Office is 150 years old - and the Royal Navy was closely connected to its birth.  This is an interesting short article from today's Guardian which educated me about yet another way in which the Navy has influenced our understanding of weather.
http://www.theguardian.com/news/2014/jun/13/weatherwatch-meteorological-office (http://www.theguardian.com/news/2014/jun/13/weatherwatch-meteorological-office)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Thursday Next on 14 June 2014, 14:45:08
Sorry, this is another one applicable only to the UK.  While trawling through next week's TV listings in a desperate search for an alternative to football, I discovered that on Thursday (19 June) there is a documentary on BBC4 about HMS Hood, as the final part of "Clydebuilt: the Ships that made the Commonwealth".  It looks as if it is going to concentrate on her WW2 service rather than the period we have log books for on OW, but one of "our" ships all the same.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Caro on 14 June 2014, 16:26:26
The previous program about blockade runner, Robert E Lee, was very good too.
It's still available on the BBC iPlayer and would make a fine antidote to the World Cup.  ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Hanibal94 on 14 June 2014, 17:13:38
Hi everyone,

Thanks a bunch for all your warm wishes regarding my birthday - such a nice reminder of this community's friendliness! I did indeed have a good time with family and co.
I didn't get many actual presents, but I did get a bunch of money so I can buy the stuff myself (That's how we tend to do it in my family).
I also rewatched several of my favorite My Little Pony episodes - including Season 4 No. 12, which just happens to be about the birthday of Rainbow Dash, my favorite pony! (It's where Randi got that cake from)
Gotta admit, that episode's definitely my favorite from Season 4 - not just because of the birthday, but because it's completely crazy, with loads of cartoon physics and inexplicable random nonsense.
For example, here's one of the songs: The Goof-Off (https://www.youtube.com/embed/6G77Z9g1_mk) (with celebrity guest voice Weird Al Yankovic!)

Well, better get back to the Bear. I wanna finish off 1908 ASAP.
Forwards and onwards,


Hanibal94
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Kathy on 14 June 2014, 18:51:04
http://www.thelocal.de/20120729/44037

Wha?

Not our war but still.....
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 14 June 2014, 19:48:51
Interesting side bar on Top Ten weird German laws.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Kathy on 14 June 2014, 20:33:40
Those are strange - especially the piano tuning at night one - they aren't that loud  :o
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Hanibal94 on 15 June 2014, 02:47:51
The one on no shops being open on Sundays is very annoying - especially when Saturday is a public holiday!  >:(
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Caro on 15 June 2014, 04:18:35
Morning all. Happy father's day to all the dads.  :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: camiller on 16 June 2014, 09:46:31
A very belated HAPPY BIRTHDAY, Hanibal!
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Dean on 16 June 2014, 12:28:06
Sorry, this is another one applicable only to the UK.  While trawling through next week's TV listings in a desperate search for an alternative to football, I discovered that on Thursday (19 June) there is a documentary on BBC4 about HMS Hood, as the final part of "Clydebuilt: the Ships that made the Commonwealth".  It looks as if it is going to concentrate on her WW2 service rather than the period we have log books for on OW, but one of "our" ships all the same.

Please let me know if it becomes available over here!  I have HOOD right now - July 1923.   ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Michael on 16 June 2014, 19:32:17

If you feel like reading some depressing news about the changing climate, click here: (http://truth-out.org/news/item/24370-atmospheric-co2-crosses-ominous-threshold)

  :( :'(
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Craig on 16 June 2014, 21:01:59
That is scary, Michael. I thought at first that he may be going a bit too far in attributing all these events to climate change but his references look credible.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Hanibal94 on 17 June 2014, 01:30:43
Very scary. As a member of the younger generation, I am very very worried about all this.
This is my future that's at stake, after all!
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 17 June 2014, 02:40:43
I have decided to support another good cause and help the brewers provide plenty of byproducts.
I cannot provide the URL as it contains a common but maybe offensive word.

Beer Waste Used To Make Bones
If you thought that beer?s potential was limited to encouraging drunk-dialing your ex or inspiring some sweet dance moves, think again. A team of researchers from the Centre for Biomedical Technology of Universidad Polit?cnica de Madrid (UPM) and the Institute of Materials Science and the Institute of Catalysis and Petrochemistry of Consejo Superior de Investigaciones Cient?ficas (CSIC) in Spain have discovered that byproducts of the brewing process could be used to create scaffolding for bone grafts.
The results of the study have been published in the journal RSC Advances. (http://pubs.rsc.org/en/content/articlelanding/2014/ra/c3ra47534d#!divAbstract)



Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Craig on 17 June 2014, 05:25:42
That is a noble, selfless act, Stuart. I'm proud of you for supporting this cause  ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Randi on 17 June 2014, 07:04:38
Forum rules prevent me from expressing my opinion :-X

 ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Craig on 17 June 2014, 07:11:44
 ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Hanibal94 on 17 June 2014, 07:18:44
I have decided to support another good cause and help the brewers provide plenty of byproducts.
I cannot provide the URL as it contains a common but maybe offensive word.

Beer Waste Used To Make Bones
If you thought that...

Sorry, but I can't take part. I'm a teetotaler due to an extreme dislike of the taste of alcohol of ANY kind.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Randi on 17 June 2014, 07:37:31
I'm also a teetotaler. In my case, I dislike the taste and the smell.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Randi on 17 June 2014, 07:44:23
Thunderstorm with pouring rain and hail!!!!!
Some hail stones on the terrace almost 1 cm in diameter.
(Hope the skylight in my bathroom is really well made! ::))
One very LOUD thunderclap was truly scary, but no obvious damage.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Dean on 17 June 2014, 07:48:30
I have decided to support another good cause and help the brewers provide plenty of byproducts.
I cannot provide the URL as it contains a common but maybe offensive word.

Beer Waste Used To Make Bones
If you thought that beer?s potential was limited to encouraging drunk-dialing your ex or inspiring some sweet dance moves, think again. A team of researchers from the Centre for Biomedical Technology of Universidad Polit?cnica de Madrid (UPM) and the Institute of Materials Science and the Institute of Catalysis and Petrochemistry of Consejo Superior de Investigaciones Cient?ficas (CSIC) in Spain have discovered that byproducts of the brewing process could be used to create scaffolding for bone grafts.
The results of the study have been published in the journal RSC Advances. (http://pubs.rsc.org/en/content/articlelanding/2014/ra/c3ra47534d#!divAbstract)

I'll help support the cause!!!!!  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

In moderation, of course!   ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 17 June 2014, 15:50:10
Ok Dean, save a tipple for me/us in Aug 2015.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Hanibal94 on 18 June 2014, 03:15:42
Good morning OW.

Anybody else following the World Cup? I am, and I was quite pleased to see the US win against Ghana yesterday.
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Post by: Randi on 18 June 2014, 03:32:44
Good morning ;D

Not me, but I hope you enjoy it.
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Post by: Janet Jaguar on 18 June 2014, 03:35:39
Good morning.

I don't watch sports much, but I'm extremely pleased and proud that we won that game.  :)
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Post by: Helen J on 18 June 2014, 03:39:16
Good morning OW.  I'm probably the sporting equivalent of a teetotaller, so am usually oblivious of all that's going on in that world.

I believe England have another game tomorrow, but as I'll be in retreat I have a very good excuse to ignore it!  I'm not sure whether I'll have an internet connection or not while I'm on retreat, and even if I do I probably won't do much online - so if I'm not around for a few days, that's what is going on.  See you all on Saturday, when I emerge for a few hours before the actual ordination service on Sunday morning.
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Post by: Janet Jaguar on 18 June 2014, 03:54:17
Our prayers are with you, Helen.  The church will be better with you.  :)
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Post by: studentforever on 18 June 2014, 06:53:11
Best wishes for Sunday.  May you find fulfillment in your new role.
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Post by: Randi on 18 June 2014, 06:54:52
Enjoy it all, Helen!
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Post by: AvastMH on 18 June 2014, 07:08:56
My thoughts will be with you on Sunday Helen. Have a wonderful day!  :D
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Post by: Kathy on 18 June 2014, 10:18:13
My house is following the World Cup - the Brazil/Mexico game was one of the best games I can remember!

I am soooo happy we finally beat Ghana - maybe we will get out of the Group of Death... ;D

My dad was a goalie in high school in the 50s and my husband is 1st generation American - Polish and German parents who met in New York after WWII.

We follow the sports listed below:

Football:  Cowboys (me) / Redskins (him) - this makes some Sundays very interesting in our house
Baseball: Go Nationals!
Soccer: DC United all the way
AND every four years - Curling (I just love it!)
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Post by: Hanibal94 on 18 June 2014, 10:34:02
My house is following the World Cup - the Brazil/Mexico game was one of the best games I can remember!

I am soooo happy we finally beat Ghana - maybe we will get out of the Group of Death... ;D


Nice to see I'm not the only World Cup watcher here!
I'd better stay away from all public viewings of the US - Germany match when that one comes. If I express my opinion on that one in public, I will get tarred, feathered and banished by angry Germans.
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Post by: Janet Jaguar on 18 June 2014, 11:57:49
A little bit like wearing a White Sox t-shirt in the Cubs' Wrigley Stadium in Chicago?  Highly not recommended.   8) ;D
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Post by: Thursday Next on 18 June 2014, 15:46:18
Good morning OW.  I'm probably the sporting equivalent of a teetotaller, so am usually oblivious of all that's going on in that world.

I believe England have another game tomorrow, but as I'll be in retreat I have a very good excuse to ignore it!  I'm not sure whether I'll have an internet connection or not while I'm on retreat, and even if I do I probably won't do much online - so if I'm not around for a few days, that's what is going on.  See you all on Saturday, when I emerge for a few hours before the actual ordination service on Sunday morning.

Very best wishes for Sunday, Helen!
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Post by: Michael on 18 June 2014, 22:32:35
Best wishes from me, too, Helen. I hope it is a beautiful service: you deserve it. Will you get OW into your first sermon?  :D

Michael
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Post by: Randi on 19 June 2014, 02:08:49
 ;D
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Post by: Dean on 19 June 2014, 07:40:35
Our prayers are with you, Helen.  The church will be better with you.  :)

Best wishes from me, too, Helen. I hope it is a beautiful service: you deserve it. Will you get OW into your first sermon?  :D


God's Blessings as you go onward and upward!  ;D
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Post by: Pommy Stuart on 19 June 2014, 16:47:16
Helen. can you put it on UTube?
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Post by: Caro on 20 June 2014, 12:40:28
Best wishes, Helen.  :)
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Post by: Helen J on 21 June 2014, 10:27:13
Thank you all for your good wishes, prayers and blessings for tomorrow.  I've just got home from the retreat and am getting a little caught up with communication with the outside world!

I don't think the bishop would be very amused if I whipped out a camera to capture it all for Youtube, so I'm afraid the answer to Stuart's question is no.  I'll try to get hold of some photos though, and put any good ones here.

Michael - because I'm already a Franciscan sister I've actually been preaching for years (nearly 30 - aargh!)  However it might be a challenge to try to work OW into my first sermon as a priest, in a couple of week's time ....

I'll be thinking of you all, a very real virtual community (if that's not a contradiction in terms  :D) alongside the physical communities I'm part of.
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Post by: Caro on 21 June 2014, 10:54:19
We'll look forward to the photos, Helen.
Enjoy the day.

And happy solstice, everyone.
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Post by: Randi on 21 June 2014, 13:02:55
We'll be thinking of you, Helen!
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Post by: Kathy on 21 June 2014, 13:52:25
Prayers with you, Helen!  :-*
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Post by: Janet Jaguar on 21 June 2014, 14:06:57
My stepbrother sent me this link - a commute to make everyone else's look easy.  :)

http://www.maniacworld.com/flv/Changing-Shifts-at-Lighthouse.mp4
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Post by: Thursday Next on 21 June 2014, 14:16:08
Maybe I wouldn't have wanted to be a lighthouse-keeper after all!
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Post by: AvastMH on 21 June 2014, 17:22:14
Makes missing the bus look like not such a drama after all!  :o :o
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Post by: Craig on 21 June 2014, 20:30:44


I wonder what the attrition rate is in that job?  Perhaps that's what Woody Allen was thinking of when he said that 90% of success is just showing up.  ;D
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Post by: Janet Jaguar on 21 June 2014, 20:51:02
There seemed to be 2 men at the house, so if you like being a hermit with one companion and love the sea, it would be heaven.  I can't see anyone doing very long at all.
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Post by: Caro on 22 June 2014, 03:28:10
Whatever any of those guys is paid is not enough.  :o

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Post by: Helen J on 22 June 2014, 15:34:24
By the wonders of modern technology I already have a few photos from my ordination to the priesthood today, so here are a couple for anyone who's interested.  One shows me with the bishop and the others being priested (I'm third from the left - the ridiculously small one); and the other is the bishop and me with all the Franciscans who came to support me.

It was a brilliant day - everything went right, it was both profound and relaxed, and I thoroughly enjoyed it.

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Post by: Randi on 22 June 2014, 15:37:46
Great!
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Post by: Caro on 22 June 2014, 15:48:45
Thanks for these Helen. Congratulations. I'm glad to hear that your day was memorable and relaxed.  :)
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Post by: AvastMH on 22 June 2014, 15:55:51
So glad that you had a good day Helen...a great first flight into the priesthood.  You certainly look very happy and content.
With best wishes,
Joan
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Post by: Kathy on 22 June 2014, 16:46:59
The vestments look good on you!  :-*
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Post by: Craig on 22 June 2014, 17:22:41
Congratulations, Helen!
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Post by: studentforever on 22 June 2014, 17:30:41
Thanks for sharing these. I hope your first communion, so to speak, goes well tomorrow.
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Post by: jil on 22 June 2014, 17:48:09
Congratulations, Helen! Glad everything went well.
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Post by: Janet Jaguar on 22 June 2014, 18:26:41
Congratulations, Helen, it looks like a wonderful day for you.  I'm glad.
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Post by: Helen J on 23 June 2014, 05:39:12
Thanks for sharing these. I hope your first communion, so to speak, goes well tomorrow.

Thank you - it's actually on June 29th (next Sunday) so I have a bit of time to gather myself and catch my breath.  I'm off this afternoon for a practice with an experienced priest, which I'm glad of.  Even though I've been to umpteen communion services, it's going to be really different being responsible for it all.  I'm probably about to find out all the details I haven't been paying attention to all these years!

And thank you all for your greetings - as we've all said before, this is an amazing community.   ;D
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Post by: studentforever on 23 June 2014, 07:34:37
Don't worry Helen. If you have an experienced server then if they are like my brother they'll keep you right.  But I'm sure if you think why you are doing things and keep that in mind then you'll be fine. I hope it goes well and that you find it fulfilling.
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Post by: Dean on 23 June 2014, 08:04:14
God has surely Blessed you in your work thus far, and I'm sure He will continue to watch over you as you go forward! May He richly Bless you and those you serve. ;D
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Post by: Janet Jaguar on 23 June 2014, 11:50:25
I remember from way back when our pastor's instruction to middle-school aged acolytes:
"No matter how badly you mess up, always walk slowly and look like you own the building."
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Post by: Helen J on 23 June 2014, 13:35:58
Janet, that's very good advice.  If you do whatever you do with confidence, most people will think that's what is meant to happen.

But a good practice was also helpful - just useful to know that what I was doing looked OK from the pews!
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Post by: Thursday Next on 23 June 2014, 14:22:59
Congratulations, Helen!
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Post by: Randi on 23 June 2014, 14:48:21
Confidence is good, but it seems to me that there is nothing wrong with telling your congregation that this is the first time you are performing the communion service and asking for their understanding.
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Post by: Helen J on 23 June 2014, 14:55:43
Oh, most of them will be very much aware that it's my first time.  The ordination and this service have been 'advertised' in the weekly notices for quite a while now.  So I think there'll be plenty of understanding - they're a lovely lot.
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Post by: Dean on 23 June 2014, 16:12:41
I remember from way back when our pastor's instruction to middle-school aged acolytes:
"No matter how badly you mess up, always walk slowly and look like you own the building."

 ;D ;D ;D

When the kids would catch me in a 'mess up' in the classroom I'd tell them I do that every so often on purpose just to see if they are paying attention.
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Post by: Helen J on 23 June 2014, 16:47:58
The bishop at the ordination yesterday had a different take on this - in what he said at the beginning of the service, trying to get people relaxed and able to enter into it, he said, 'just remember, whatever happens up here is right.'  And, it was!
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Post by: Michael on 23 June 2014, 19:25:18
Helen, ( oh small but mighty one)

I've been out of town for a couple of days, but I did remember your big day, and I offered up a silent prayer for you at what I thought might be the appropriate time, though it was Pacific Daylight Savings, not British time. Congratulations once again!!

I'm sure you'll be a blessing to your congregation, just as you are to us!

Michael
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Post by: Randi on 24 June 2014, 02:04:43
... And after ordination I'll be attached to a parish to do my curacy - but unpaid and part time, so I'll be travelling around too, with my Franciscan sister hat on!
...  I do however have to carry on as a curate in training for a further two years - it's all a very long process ....

Will you be full time now? Any more traveling (or other work) as a Franciscan sister?
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Post by: Helen J on 24 June 2014, 10:40:21
... And after ordination I'll be attached to a parish to do my curacy - but unpaid and part time, so I'll be travelling around too, with my Franciscan sister hat on!
...  I do however have to carry on as a curate in training for a further two years - it's all a very long process ....

Will you be full time now? Any more traveling (or other work) as a Franciscan sister?

No, I'll be carrying on much as I am now - part time and unpaid and juggling it all with Franciscan travelling, just able to do more of the work in the parish.  I'll also be moving some time in the autumn, but more of that later!
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Post by: Helen J on 24 June 2014, 10:41:50
Helen, ( oh small but mighty one)

I've been out of town for a couple of days, but I did remember your big day, and I offered up a silent prayer for you at what I thought might be the appropriate time, though it was Pacific Daylight Savings, not British time. Congratulations once again!!

I'm sure you'll be a blessing to your congregation, just as you are to us!

Michael

Mmm, small but mighty - I rather like that!  I wonder whether I could get other people to address me like that?  :D  Thank you for your prayers, and I'm sure the heavenly redirection department made sure they reached me at the right time - they're very good at that.
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Post by: Caro on 25 June 2014, 02:29:38
Greetings OW.
The sun is shining, the birds are tweeting.
Better make the most of it; the 'usual' Wimbledon weather is approaching.
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Post by: studentforever on 25 June 2014, 05:36:09
It's arrived up here - cooler, cloudy and intermittent drizzly rain.  Make the most of it down south, I think summer may be over up here!
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Post by: Randi on 25 June 2014, 07:20:56
Several days of hot weather.
Thunderstorms during the night.
Now cloudy and reasonably cool but humid.
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Post by: Janet Jaguar on 25 June 2014, 10:19:07
This is one of those weeks where lake breezes split Chicago into 2 climate zones.  This is the third day in a row where there in no overlap between what most people experience from living inland and what I'm experiencing near the lake.  Fog this morning was an F3-4.

P.S. One of those storms this week dumped an inch of rain on a suburb in less than 20 minutes.  They aren't kidding when they say 'strong'. :o
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Post by: Thursday Next on 25 June 2014, 14:28:48
Greetings OW.
The sun is shining, the birds are tweeting.
Better make the most of it; the 'usual' Wimbledon weather is approaching.

Or even the usual Glastonbury weather!
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Post by: Pommy Stuart on 25 June 2014, 15:55:40
NSW forecast
Weather Situation
A deep low, well to the south of Tasmania is moving slowly to the southeast. A ridge of high pressure extends across the far north of New South Wales from a high centered over South Australia. The high should move to the Tasman Sea on Friday. The next major cold front is expected to reach the far west of the state Friday night, before bringing another vigorous and colder west to southwesterly airstream over the weekend.
Snow line creeping down to 900mtrs over the next few days. I am at 700 so rarely see snow.

Picture from Tuesday and comment on the weather at The Snowy Mountasins - 'So far today, Thredbo Top Station has recorded top wind gusts of 106kph with an apparent temperature of -21 degrees Celsius.'
(http://www.abc.net.au/news/image/5546494-3x2-700x467.jpg)

Not so bad where I am. Glad the 80kmph winds gusting to 100kmph are going to subside to about 40-60kmph gusting to 80kmph.
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Post by: Caro on 25 June 2014, 16:21:11
Or even the usual Glastonbury weather!

Yeah. Looks like a classic weekend weather-wise for Glastonbury.  ;D
And a good ski season at Thredbo!
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Post by: Pommy Stuart on 26 June 2014, 01:12:20
Nice photography (although probably a bit close to be legal)
Pity about the reality of the message.

https://www.youtube.com/embed/hYM4ndcV4Uo
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Post by: Michael on 26 June 2014, 12:52:18
Who need pictures of snow? How about some summer weather: here's a picture of mammatus clouds I saw over Edmonton. They form on the underside of cumulo-nimbus (CB) clouds when cooler air inside the CB descends slightly.

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Post by: Janet Jaguar on 26 June 2014, 13:06:05
Beautiful.
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Post by: Thursday Next on 26 June 2014, 14:30:36
Another interesting TV programme coming up in the UK next week.  9pm Tuesday 1 July on the Yesterday Channel: Submarine Mission Impossible.  This is about the Australian submarine AE2 which took part in the Gallipoli campaign.
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Post by: Caro on 27 June 2014, 02:30:13
Sounds good Su.

Morning all. Grey and drizzly here. Just in time for the weekend.  :P :)
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Post by: Helen J on 27 June 2014, 06:43:11
The Glastonbury weather is setting in well .... 
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Post by: Dean on 27 June 2014, 07:20:29
Sunny and 70F (20C) at 7:30am. Should be 80's (28+C) this afternoon.

Think we'll try for a sail.

This is the camera view North out of the Niagara River toward Lake Ontario screen captured a few minutes ago.
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Post by: Janet Jaguar on 27 June 2014, 07:29:45
Beautiful.  By all means give into temptation and go for a sail.  :)
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Post by: Michael on 27 June 2014, 15:33:53
I just read a most interesting article about the reanalysis of old weather to examine the weather and the forecasts for the D-Day invasion of France. It is most interesting, and it mentions Old Weather at the end of the Conclusions. The article is fairly technical and parts of it will be a challenge to those of you who haven't spent 40 years forecasting the weather.

D-Day Analyses (http://www.ecmwf.int/en/research/projects/era-clim/d-day-analyses)
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Post by: Janet Jaguar on 27 June 2014, 19:36:20
I don't know if this has been posted before - it is from a 2007 storm off the coast of Brittany, if I got the French right.

https://www.youtube.com/embed/m7RSryuJAwE
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Post by: h.kohler on 28 June 2014, 05:35:32
Yes you did  :).

Impressive images, the noise and shaking of those light houses must have been terrifying for the light house keeper.
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Post by: AvastMH on 28 June 2014, 06:18:25
Sunny and 70F (20C) at 7:30am. Should be 80's (28+C) this afternoon.

Think we'll try for a sail.

This is the camera view North out of the Niagara River toward Lake Ontario screen captured a few minutes ago.

Hope you got out for a sail Dean - that's so beautiful - tooo good to miss!
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Post by: propriome on 28 June 2014, 06:59:27
I don't know if this has been posted before - it is from a 2007 storm off the coast of Brittany, if I got the French right.

https://www.youtube.com/embed/m7RSryuJAwE

Marvellous images Janet, thanks for sharing :) :)

Looking at them I feel the need to visit Brittany again... it was one of the best summer holidays (August 2007) i've ever had.
I didn't know a part of the Phare of La Vieille has collapsed in 2008 :'( I can remember seeing it in the distance from the Pointe du Raz.
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Post by: Dean on 28 June 2014, 07:44:29
DID manage to get out for a wonderful sail! Now back to reality! (AND OW!)

BTW - Here's a shot from the same spot just before sunset last evening.
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Post by: Helen J on 28 June 2014, 09:23:07
Gorgeous picture, Dean - how lucky you are to live in such a beautiful place.
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Post by: JamesAPrattIII on 28 June 2014, 15:06:34
100 Years ago today 28 June 1914 the incident that started WW I occurred the assassination of Archduke Franz Ferdinand and his wife. For further reading:
A Mad castrophe Geoffery Wawro
Assassination in Sarajero Alex Wollf
The Assassination of the Archduke Greg King

Online the Axishistoryforum.com has a section on Austria-Hungary which includes "Austria-Hungary's last war 1914-1918" the 8 volume Austrian official history in English and German
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Post by: Thursday Next on 28 June 2014, 15:32:50
Oddly enough, the BBC here in the UK are making surprisingly little of the actual anniversary of Franz Ferdinand's assassination.  We have had lots of programmes on TV and radio about the lead up to the Great War, but all I can find actually today is a 5 minute radio programme which is part 2 of "1914: Day by Day".  I have missed it, and I missed yesterday's as well, so I shall have to find them on the i-Player.  I presume they have no room on the TV schedules for a programme about this event, what with all the football, tennis and music festivals - nice to see they have their priorities right!  ::)
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Post by: jil on 28 June 2014, 16:52:13
They could have at least got Franz Ferdinand (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Franz_Ferdinand_(band)) to play Glastonbury.  ;)
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Post by: Caro on 29 June 2014, 04:09:17
At least today there is no tennis.

How's your old weather everyone?
Here it's mild, some sun, some cloud, threat of heavy rain later ... at about Netherlands v Mexico time.  ;)
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Post by: h.kohler on 29 June 2014, 04:34:37
Here occasional rain with thunderstorm, a usual week-end weather  ;D
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Post by: Craig on 29 June 2014, 05:47:36
Hot and sunny here. A perfect summer's day  :)
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Post by: Caro on 29 June 2014, 05:52:26
I'll be right over.  :)
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Post by: Janet Jaguar on 29 June 2014, 08:08:37
You'd enjoy it, Caro.  We will be up in the 90s today.  ;D
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Post by: Thursday Next on 29 June 2014, 12:22:53
They could have at least got Franz Ferdinand (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Franz_Ferdinand_(band)) to play Glastonbury.  ;)

 ;D
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Post by: Michael on 29 June 2014, 14:49:10
Recent weather statistics for Victoria
Date          Max   Min Precip
21 Jun 2014  21.2   6.1      0
22 Jun 2014  24.5   7.7      0
23 Jun 2014  22.2  10.8    0.8
24 Jun 2014  21.8  12.0      0
25 Jun 2014  23.8  11.3      0
26 Jun 2014  23.2  10.8      0
27 Jun 2014  20.2  11.5    2.0
28 Jun 2014  20.9  10.5    0.2
------------------------------
Extremes     24.5   6.1    3.0


Degrees C. and precipitation in mm for those who still suffer under the imperial system of measurements. Most days sunny, and the temperatures just right, for me at least. We had to buy a shade umbrella the other day so we could enjoy sitting on the patio drinking Long Island Ice Tea.   :) :) :) :)
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Post by: Helen J on 29 June 2014, 15:06:13
That does sound just about perfect - lucky you!
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Post by: Randi on 29 June 2014, 15:10:13
Hi Helen - How did YOUR day go? ;)
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Post by: Thursday Next on 29 June 2014, 15:18:39
Yes, Helen - how did your day go?  :)  Well, I hope!
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Post by: Helen J on 29 June 2014, 16:03:02
Thanks Randi and Su - it went well I think.  It was certainly a very powerful experience and has given me a lot to think about.  I didn't drop anything or forget to say anything vital, which was a good start!

I've got some photos and could post one or two here, but they're bigger than is allowed.  Can anyone tell me a way of making them smaller (in words of one syllable)?
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Post by: Craig on 29 June 2014, 18:02:10
If you have photo software you can resize them, Helen. Some of the applications have an e-mail option that resizes them automatically. You can then just copy them from the e-mail message to the Forum.

There are probably other ways I don't know about  :D

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Post by: Janet Jaguar on 29 June 2014, 18:09:28
If you have screen cap software, capture the photo on your screen and save as JPG.

If you have Google+, Google Drive, or Flickr (https://www.flickr.com/) or some similar storage online, put them there and then use the image icon on the far left in the post tool bar to convert it to a picture from an online site - no size limit on those at all.
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Post by: Dean on 29 June 2014, 20:10:17
If you have PREVIEW or something like it that opens the jpg when you click on it - Try looking for a 'tools' drop down and click on resize.

And for those struggling with  an 'issue' at the moment -- try this....
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Post by: Craig on 29 June 2014, 20:34:26
 ;D
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Post by: Michael on 29 June 2014, 21:07:39
Thanks Randi and Su - it went well I think.  It was certainly a very powerful experience and has given me a lot to think about.  I didn't drop anything or forget to say anything vital, which was a good start!

I've got some photos and could post one or two here, but they're bigger than is allowed.  Can anyone tell me a way of making them smaller (in words of one syllable)?

Wonderful, Helen!!! (Did you get to mention OW in your sermon?  ;D)

Michael
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Post by: Craig on 30 June 2014, 07:10:53
In response to your Victoria weather report, Michael:

Victoria in summer is wonderful. I spent the month of August there many years ago. We rented a house in the James Bay area and I walked to and from the statistical office on Douglas St.  I don't remember getting wet once. The pears on their tree were ripe and so were the raspberries in their garden. We didn't have a TV, which was a blessing because we played had fun playing games with my daughter and nephew, who were about 10 at the time. My wife took the kids around sight seeing while I was at work.

But Sierra Club found, John Muir, expressed another opinion in a letter to his wife dated August 3rd, 1880:

Quote
Victoria seems a dry, dignified, half-idle town, supported in great part by government fees. Every erect, or more than erect, backleaning, man has an office, and carries himself with that peculiar aplomb that all the Hail Britannia people are noted for. The wharf and water stir is very mild. The steamer Princess Louise alongside ours [the Corwin] getting ready for the trip to New Westminster on the Fraser River.  The Hudson Bay Company's steamer Otter, a queer old tubby craft, left for the North last night. A few sloops, plungers and boats are crawling about the harbor or lying at anchor, doing or dreaming a business nobody knows ... Though clearer than the waters of most harbours, it is not without the ordinary drift of old bottles, straw, and defunct domestic animals. How rotten the piles of the wharf are, and how they smell, even in this cool climate!
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Post by: Helen J on 30 June 2014, 11:56:28
Thanks Randi and Su - it went well I think.  It was certainly a very powerful experience and has given me a lot to think about.  I didn't drop anything or forget to say anything vital, which was a good start!

I've got some photos and could post one or two here, but they're bigger than is allowed.  Can anyone tell me a way of making them smaller (in words of one syllable)?

Wonderful, Helen!!! (Did you get to mention OW in your sermon?  ;D)

I didn't have to preach this time, Michael - coming up next Sunday.  As it's developing at the moment, I can't quite see how OW is going to get in ....

Michael
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Post by: Helen J on 30 June 2014, 13:23:11
OK, here are a few photos from my first eucharist - thanks to Caro for doing the magic required to make it possible to post them here!

The first two are of me at the altar, and the third enjoying some cake and sparkling wine after it was all over.

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-jaT4MChHMBo/U7GTw-ZqxBI/AAAAAAAAP28/adxPZFuRHgU/s512/presiding.JPG?gl=GB)
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-nHT1h-hp5Hc/U7GTqFQI92I/AAAAAAAAP20/Zn___0ZVkvg/s512/DSCF7010.JPG?gl=GB)
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-utFyszm7oHQ/U7GTXgqcf4I/AAAAAAAAP2o/e0nG6PRCaWE/s512/after%2520bread%2520and%2520wine%252C%2520cake%2520and%2520fizz.JPG?gl=GB)
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Post by: Hanibal94 on 30 June 2014, 14:15:48
Very nice!
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Post by: Thursday Next on 30 June 2014, 14:16:27
Great photos, Helen - thanks for sharing them with us!
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Post by: Dean on 30 June 2014, 14:18:55
Wonderful!!~ Thanks for sharing!  May God Bless richly you and your work for His people. :D
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Post by: AvastMH on 30 June 2014, 14:59:11
How exciting Helen!  I hope you will have a chance to re-group yourself after all the changes...before the onward journey...  ;) :D
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Post by: Kathy on 30 June 2014, 15:03:13
I certainly hope that cake was chocolate!
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Post by: AvastMH on 30 June 2014, 15:09:27
 Just an interesting tidbit on the way past...I was looking up Twigg's boat builders in San Fran and noticed this article on the opposite page:
http://cdnc.ucr.edu/cgi-bin/cdnc?a=d&d=SFC19130326.2.142
Amundsen visiting his old NW passage boat in 1913....
(The transcription date on the Patterson is Feb 1911...Amundsen was on his epic South Pole journey at that time. It never ceases to amaze me how bits of history keep adding together during this OW project) 8)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Helen J on 30 June 2014, 15:39:40
I certainly hope that cake was chocolate!

No, this one was an excellent fruit cake, but at the bring and share lunch later there was a delicious chocolate cake and I made sure that I had some!
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Post by: studentforever on 30 June 2014, 15:49:18
Glad it all went well and you were able to lead your congregation in this most important service. The pictures are lovely, thank you for sharing them. Now you have truly embarked on the next phase of your life - may it be as rewarding as you hope.
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Post by: Michael on 30 June 2014, 18:00:16
Lovely photos, Helen, thank you! And, of course, my congratulations as well.

Michael
PS I would celebrate with fruit cake, too! It's simply the best!!!
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Caro on 01 July 2014, 07:15:28
Hello OW.

And happy Canada Day to Canadians everywhere.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Craig on 01 July 2014, 07:28:27
Thanks, Caro. It's hot and humid here today with possible showers this afternoon, but that shouldn't stop people from going out and having fun. Last week was Quebec's "national" holiday (St. Jean Baptiste) and it was pouring rain but there were crowds out celebrating just the same.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 01 July 2014, 07:36:10
Happy Canada Day!!!


(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_luxknxCWO31qlsiq8o1_500.gif)
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Post by: Dean on 01 July 2014, 07:47:40
And the question my 5th & 6 graders always asked...'Do they have a 4th of July in Canada?!'    ???
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Post by: Randi on 01 July 2014, 07:55:13
Of course ;D
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Post by: Hanibal94 on 01 July 2014, 09:20:01
Germany has one too. It's right after the 3rd of July, and just before the 5th of July  ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Craig on 01 July 2014, 11:05:58
In Canada it's 04/07 - not 07/04  ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 01 July 2014, 11:57:30
In Canada it's 04/07 - not 07/04  ;D

And that's good enough to excuse the lack of fireworks that day.  ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Michael on 01 July 2014, 14:37:33
Hello OW.

And happy Canada Day to Canadians everywhere.

Do I get paid double time for working on a statutory holiday for my OW data entry today?   ;D
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Post by: Janet Jaguar on 01 July 2014, 14:39:17
Hello OW.

And happy Canada Day to Canadians everywhere.

Do I get paid double time for working on a statutory holiday for my OW data entry today?   ;D

Of course!!!  All Canadians get double OW wages today!!! ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Craig on 01 July 2014, 16:46:51
At least if we had one of those old Empress ships to transcribe for the day. It seems to me I did one when we transcribing the UK ships. It must have been lent to the UK for the war effort.
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Post by: Michael on 01 July 2014, 17:58:00
At least if we had one of those old Empress ships to transcribe for the day. It seems to me I did one when we transcribing the UK ships. It must have been lent to the UK for the war effort.
I asked Canadian Pacific if they had any of the old Empress ship's logbooks. I keep seeing references in the Concord's logs about the various Empress ships coming and going from various ports in Japan and China. Thy spend very little time in port, and I thought they might be a valuable source of weather data, sailing the Pacific, Atlantic and Indian Oceans on a regular basis for years. Apparently the headquarters for Canadian Pacific were in London, and the person who wrote back was pretty sure that the logbooks were destroyed in a bombing raid in WW II. He wasn't positive, though, and I didn't ask him to pursue it any further. If observations taken at sea are of more value than those taken while in port, the log books from the various liners might be very useful. And maybe we wouldn't have to do the Events pages, if any.
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Post by: Kathy on 01 July 2014, 18:51:12
aaahhhh........ :'(  :'(

Go Costa Rica!

much wailing and gnashing of teeth in my house
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Post by: Janet Jaguar on 01 July 2014, 19:11:19
Lovely idea - unfortunately you also have to arrange funding to get them scanned.  All of our current funding, past and present, is very particular about which ship logs they are paying to scan.   :'(
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Post by: Caro on 02 July 2014, 03:21:51
Morning all.

Cheer up Kathy. USA nearly made it. Ditto Switzerland.  ;)
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Post by: Hanibal94 on 02 July 2014, 03:50:40
aaahhhh........ :'(  :'(

Go Costa Rica!

much wailing and gnashing of teeth in my house

Same here.  :'(

My hope now lies with Brazil. It's about time they got another victory.
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Post by: Maikel on 02 July 2014, 03:51:14
aaahhhh........ :'(  :'(

Go Costa Rica!

much wailing and gnashing of teeth in my house

Sorry?
Hup Holland!  ;D
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Post by: AvastMH on 02 July 2014, 05:20:01
Go Eng-er-land, Go Eng-er-land!!!   ;D ;D ;D
I'm thinking onwards to 2018....  ;) ;)
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Post by: studentforever on 02 July 2014, 05:51:33
You've got the Euros in 2016 first!
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Post by: Caro on 02 July 2014, 06:56:12
Look Kathy. A new hero is born!  ;D
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-28122254
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Post by: Kathy on 02 July 2014, 09:05:53
I know!  Tim Howard put on a master class yesterday!
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Post by: Helen J on 02 July 2014, 10:56:32
At least England and USA made it to the World Cup - Scotland hasn't got there in I can't remember how long.  And now Andy Murray's been knocked out of Wimbledon.  If I cared about sport more than slightly I could be really depressed .... :'(
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Post by: Caro on 02 July 2014, 17:02:30
Not to worry Helen.
Tour de France kicks off in Leeds on Saturday.
England v India cricket test on July 9.
21 days until the Commonwealth Games in Glasgow.
How much more sport can we take?  :o :)
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Post by: Randi on 02 July 2014, 17:22:50
Snooker: Australian Goldfields Open from June 30 to July 6 in Bendigo, Victoria. ;)
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Post by: Pommy Stuart on 02 July 2014, 17:28:33
-2C in misty Bowral this morning.
First thermometer minus for the winter, (plenty of minus temps with wind factors over the last few weeks.)

Bendigo is the place to go. %^)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Kathy on 02 July 2014, 20:30:30
There is always baseball
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Caro on 03 July 2014, 03:47:31
Snooker and baseball, then.  ;D

Hello all. Sunny and 24C here today. It must be summer!
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 03 July 2014, 04:50:06
30 Apr 1898.
Concord, Manila Bay.
Seem to be a lot of Spanish around today.   :o
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Post by: Randi on 03 July 2014, 15:39:07
Quote from: http://www.bbc.com/news/blogs-magazine-monitor-23230183
Want to multiply 11 by 23? Just take the two digits 2 and 3, add them together (makes 5) and put that number in the middle - 253. What about 36 x 11? Again, split the 3 and the 6 and put their sum (9) in the middle - 396. Lovely - though take care, if the two digits add to more than 9, this nifty trick doesn't work so neatly. 58 x 11... well 5+8 = 13, but the answer isn't 5138, that "1" actually represents a 100, and needs to be added to the 5 to give the answer 638.

There's a pattern that begins with 11 x 11, too. Multiply those two numbers together and you get 121. How about 111 x 111? The answer is 12321. Care to guess what 1111 x 1111 is? Yes, 1234321.
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Post by: Pommy Stuart on 03 July 2014, 17:32:12
OK Randi I will have to find a use for that Gem of info.  ::)

By the way happy Holiday to whoever celebrates it on the 4th July when it rolls round your way.   ;)
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Post by: Pommy Stuart on 03 July 2014, 20:05:27
Very strong Union Rep on the Concord during the skermish at Manilla Bay.
"OK guys it's 8AM time to knock off for Breakfast."
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Concord/vol023of040/vol023of040_158_1.jpg (http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Concord/vol023of040/vol023of040_158_1.jpg)

Commenced to until 4AM. ..... At 12:15 a shot was fired from Fraile rock which was answered by Boston, Raleigh and Concord. Concord fired 3 shots; the battery was silenced.

4AM to 8AM. ...........  5.05 commenced firing from Manilla and Kaoite, ships and forts. The fleet steamed around in column of vessels, firing at fleet and shore batteries at Kaoite. A launch started for (resure?) and was forced to ~ ashore, fired until 7:40, expending 182 rounds 6in. "B.L.R.", 220, 6pdr; 120, 3pdr; 60 1pdr; when fleet steamed out of action. There was no casualties among the crew. Several Spanish men of war were disabled and on fire when fleet left. Fleet steamed around 3 times. Fleet went to breakfast at 8:00. The reserve division kept off to Westward. Several shots were fired from fleet at Battery in Manilla.

8am to Meridian. Commenced shelling forts, and ships at Kaoite and 11:00. went to destroy transport on port bow at 11:33.  Fleet shelling forts and ships at end of watch. "Reina Christina" and "Castilla" were burning and "Autruie de Ulloa" was sunk. signal made to Concord "Go in and see what ships are burning" then "Annul" then 11:30 "Go in and destroy transport on port bow"  E~~~laded forts as ships steamed in.

Meridian to 4PM. ..........  At 12:25 the Spanish flag was hauled down at Navy Yard at Kaoite. The white flag was hoisted at Navy Yard. Stood in and destroyed a spanish transport Isla de Mindanas which was ashore near Kaoite. Eight spanish vessels were found scuttled and abandoned, they were destroyed by crew of 'Petrel", which vessel was sent in towards Kaoite.


I do think it was a bit unsporting to go in and destroy more things after the white flag was hoisted.
If anybody can correct the text I would appreciate it. I am sure this must be recorded elsewhere but I would like to have my text correct. TIA
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Post by: Michael on 03 July 2014, 20:41:16
Very strong Union Rep on the Concord during the skermish at Manilla Bay.
"OK guys it's 8AM time to knock off for Breakfast."
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Concord/vol023of040/vol023of040_158_1.jpg (http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Concord/vol023of040/vol023of040_158_1.jpg)

Commenced to until 4AM. ..... At 12:15 a shot was fired from Fraile rock which was answered by Boston, Raleigh and Concord. Concord fired 3 shots; the battery was silenced.

4AM to 8AM. ...........  5.05 commenced firing from Manilla and Kaoite, ships and forts. The fleet steamed around in column of vessels, firing at fleet and shore batteries at Kaoite. A launch started for (resure?) and was forced to ~ ashore, fired until 7:40, expending 182 rounds 6in. "B.L.R.", 220, 6pdr; 120, 3pdr; 60 1pdr; when fleet steamed out of action. There was no casualties among the crew. Several Spanish men of war were disabled and on fire when fleet left. Fleet steamed around 3 times. Fleet went to breakfast at 8:00. The reserve division kept off to Westward. Several shots were fired from fleet at Battery in Manilla.

8am to Meridian. Commenced shelling forts, and ships at Kaoite and 11:00. went to destroy transport on port bow at 11:33.  Fleet shelling forts and ships at end of watch. "Reina Christina" and "Castilla" were burning and "Autruie de Ulloa" was sunk. signal made to Concord "Go in and see what ships are burning" then "Annul" then 11:30 "Go in and destroy transport on port bow"  E~~~laded forts as ships steamed in.

Meridian to 4PM. ..........  At 12:25 the Spanish flag was hauled down at Navy Yard at Kaoite. The white flag was hoisted at Navy Yard. Stood in and destroyed a spanish transport Isla de Mindanas which was ashore near Kaoite. Eight spanish vessels were found scuttled and abandoned, they were destroyed by crew of 'Petrel", which vessel was sent in towards Kaoite.


I do think it was a bit unsporting to go in and destroy more things after the white flag was hoisted.
If anybody can correct the text I would appreciate it. I am sure this must be recorded elsewhere but I would like to have my text correct. TIA

Commences and until 4 A.M.
Fleet steaminginto Manilla Bay. At 12:15 a shot was fired from Fraile rock which was answered by Boston, Raleight and Concord. Concord firing 3 shots; the battery was silenced. Fleet came in trhough Boca Grande.
4 to 8 A.M.
Steaming into Manilla Bay. 5:05 comenced firing from Manilla and Kavite, ships and forts. The fleet steamed around in column of vessels, firing at fleet and shore batteries at Kavite. A launch started for reserve and was forced to run ahsore, fired until 7:40, expending 182 rounds 6 in. "B. L. R.", 220, 6 pdr; 120, 3 pdr; 60, 1 pdr; when fleet steamed out of actions. There was no casualities among the crew. Several Spanish men-of-war were disabled and on fire when fleet left. Fleet steamed around  3 times. Fleet went to breadfast at 8:00. The Reserve division kept off to Westward. Several shots were fired from fleet at Battery in Manilla.
8 AM. to Meridian.
Commenced shelling forts, and ships at Kavite at 11:10. Went to destroy transport on port bow at 11:33. Fleet shelling forts and ships at end of watch. "Reina Christina" and "Castilla" were burning and "Antonio de Ulloa" was sunk. Signal made to Concord "Go in and see what ships are burning" then "Annul" then 11.30 "Go in & destroy transport on port bow" enfiladed forts as ship steered in.
Meridian to 4 P.M.
At 12:25 the Spanish flag was hauled down at Navy Yard at Kavite. The white flag was hoisted at Navy Yard. Stood in and destroyed a spanish transport Isla de Mindanao,which was ashore near Kavite. Eight spanish vessels were found scuttled and abandoned, they were destroyed by crew of "Petrel", which vessel was sent in towards Kavite.
4 to 6 P.M.
Signal from flagship to this vessel at 10:00. Tact. sig. 180. Stood down to Cavite.
8 P. M. to Midnight
Beat to general quarters at 8:00 and cast loose battery, leaving 6" loaded. Stationed crew to quarters to remain there overnight; establishing a watch of three hands from each Division as lookouts. At 9:30 Boston signalled "Send boat"; boat brought two Spanish Officers from Boston. At 10:00 got underway and stood down to communicate with flag. Captain with Spanish Officers went aboard "Olympia" and on their return stood towards anchorage off Kavite.

The writer uses Kavite and Cavite. The latter is the correct spelling.

Battle of Manila Bay - Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Manila_Bay)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Michael on 03 July 2014, 21:30:31
I'm being pulled off Concord for a few days so we can steam around Desolation Sound with a friend on his yacht. "When choosing friends, see what kind of stuff they have first," is my motto.  ;D  Perhaps, Helen, you could make a sermon out of that.  ;D ;D ;D Like George W. once said, "My kind of people: the haves and have mores." I'll send photos when we return...
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Post by: Pommy Stuart on 04 July 2014, 01:34:17
Thanks Michael.
Enjoy your leave and leave me to clear up the mess, Thanks. 
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Post by: Randi on 04 July 2014, 01:52:16
"breadfast", Michael? ;D

Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Caro on 04 July 2014, 02:53:55
Morning all.

Happy 4th of July to our friends on the other side of the pond.  :)

Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Helen J on 04 July 2014, 06:57:23
I'm being pulled off Concord for a few days so we can steam around Desolation Sound with a friend on his yacht. "When choosing friends, see what kind of stuff they have first," is my motto.  ;D  Perhaps, Helen, you could make a sermon out of that.  ;D ;D ;D Like George W. once said, "My kind of people: the haves and have mores." I'll send photos when we return...

I'll keep it in mind as an example of what not to do ....  ;D  Hope you have a great time anyway!
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: AvastMH on 04 July 2014, 09:28:35
I made firework cakes to celebrate July 4th at work today!

They are just individual lemon flavoured sponge cakes with lemon icing (small cup cakes if you like) with FizzWizz sprinkled over just before serving. FizzWizz is an explosive type of sherbert granule - so they go bang inside your head as you eat them...fun!
Have a great Independence Day.... ;D ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Michael on 04 July 2014, 09:41:04
"breadfast", Michael? ;D

Sorry, Randi, old eyes and I was in a typing in a hurry because I had to pack...  It was, though, casualities.

Michael
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 04 July 2014, 09:45:03
Michael.
I was not expecting you to type the lot, just what I could not read. Job well done (ish).   ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Michael on 04 July 2014, 09:45:23
Happy 4th of July to all you living south of the 49th!!! Remember to claim double time for all your OW work today.  :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Helen J on 04 July 2014, 11:47:48
I made firework cakes to celebrate July 4th at work today!

They are just individual lemon flavoured sponge cakes with lemon icing (small cup cakes if you like) with FizzWizz sprinkled over just before serving. FizzWizz is an explosive type of sherbert granule - so they go bang inside your head as you eat them...fun!
Have a great Independence Day.... ;D ;D

Those sound good fun - how about some more for November 5th?
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Hanibal94 on 04 July 2014, 14:02:17
HAPPY INDEPENDENCE DAY!

(https://i.chzbgr.com/maxW500/8244357632/h06FB333F/)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Thursday Next on 04 July 2014, 14:40:22
Happy Independence Day!
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 04 July 2014, 15:26:10
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpa1/t1.0-9/10471426_777704965593271_7636653904083293576_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 06 July 2014, 05:49:21
Nice cloud formation.
Asperatus Clouds Over New Zealand

Asperatus Clouds  (http://cdn.all-that-is-interesting.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/interesting-pictures-asperatus-clouds.jpg)

(http://cdn.all-that-is-interesting.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/interesting-pictures-asperatus-clouds.jpg)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Randi on 06 July 2014, 09:06:11
Is the Earth preparing to flip? (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/2889127.stm)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 06 July 2014, 11:12:34
We may be living in interesting times indeed.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Craig on 06 July 2014, 11:51:19
Here's a rather surprising article about a flip-flop (rather than just a flip  ;D).

Global warming may lead to global cooling. The author is William H. Calvin, a theoretical neurophysiologist at the University of Washington at Seattle. The 2-part article was published in The Atlantic (not the most scientific of journals). I would like to hear what climatologists have to say about this (Kevin?, Philip?). There was a lot of concern about a flip in the "Atlantic conveyor" about 10 years ago (leading to colder temperatures in Europe) but I had the impression that the experts had concluded that this was not a pressing concern. Now there is new evidence, it seems ... https://www.theatlantic.com/past/docs/issues/98jan/climate.htm

Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Kathy on 06 July 2014, 12:18:47
Hi all -

I have had a question regarding weather and ships' operations during WWI - along the lines of did the weather cause any changes to operations a la D-Day...

Does anyone remember anything along these lines happening with the WWI ships?

Thanks -

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Post by: Hanibal94 on 06 July 2014, 12:40:05
Here's a rather surprising article about a flip-flop (rather than just a flip  ;D).

Global warming may lead to global cooling. The author is William H. Calvin, a theoretical neurophysiologist at the University of Washington at Seattle. The 2-part article was published in The Atlantic (not the most scientific of journals). I would like to hear what climatologists have to say about this (Kevin?, Philip?). There was a lot of concern about a flip in the "Atlantic conveyor" about 10 years ago (leading to colder temperatures in Europe) but I had the impression that the experts had concluded that this was not a pressing concern. Now there is new evidence, it seems ... https://www.theatlantic.com/past/docs/issues/98jan/climate.htm

Isn't the article from 1998, meaning it's not really "new evidence"?
It does sound rather scary, though. Sounds like either way, overheating or overcooling, Homo sapiens will be in huge trouble.
And I will most likely live long enough to witness it all.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Randi on 06 July 2014, 12:44:32
neurophysiologist? - I'd say he is rather far from his specialty :-\
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Craig on 06 July 2014, 13:09:40
Ha, I didn't even notice the date.  :-[ A friend sent it to me and he usually sends recent articles so I didn't think to check. That may have been the article that got the discussion about the Atlantic Conveyor going back then. I think the discussion gradually fizzled out as more information became available.

Yes, he is a bit out of his domain - a good writer though  ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 06 July 2014, 16:48:03
Hi Kathy.
Do you mean along these lines?
http://www.wxedge.com/articles/20120523how_did_the_weather_affect_d-day (http://www.wxedge.com/articles/20120523how_did_the_weather_affect_d-day)
and
http://www.datasync.com/~bouchard/rich/brand2.html (http://www.datasync.com/~bouchard/rich/brand2.html)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 06 July 2014, 17:08:35
Enjoy Today (7 July) as it is:

International Chocolate Day,
Global Forgiveness Day,
and
Tell the Truth day

For those who are still in Yesterday, enjoy,
Umbrella Cover day.

By Birthday was Bikini day (but I chose not to wear one.)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Randi on 06 July 2014, 17:55:51
Belated
Happy Birthday
to
Pommy Stuart


5 July


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Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 06 July 2014, 18:00:41
 ::)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Randi on 06 July 2014, 18:02:52
Enjoy Today (7 July) as it is: Global Forgiveness Day

 ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 06 July 2014, 19:38:51
Forgiveness is important, and it does not include forgetting anything, or letting myself accept repeated abuse.  It simply means letting go of my own anger.  The world needs more of this.

(http://www.guideposts.org/sites/guideposts.com/files/quotes/desmond_tutu_3_2.jpg)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Kathy on 06 July 2014, 20:56:32
To Stuart on his 111th birthday

Happy Birthday to Stuart, down under ?
A pommy from way over yonder.
A transcriber bar none,
With whom we have fun,
May your days be filled with great wonder!
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Kathy on 06 July 2014, 20:57:32
Stuart -

yes, exactly like that -
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 06 July 2014, 21:01:45
Happy Birthday, Stuart!!!

(http://www.smileyvault.com/albums/userpics/13911/0003~4.gif)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Craig on 06 July 2014, 21:06:10
You don't look a day older than 100, Stuart. Happy Birthday!
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 06 July 2014, 22:04:58
Ah, gee fanks folks.  :D
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: propriome on 07 July 2014, 06:38:59
Woha, almost missed this one!

Happy birthday Stuart!!
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Dean on 07 July 2014, 08:43:40
Stuart

   Happy Birthday to you,
   Happy Birthday to you,
   Happy Birthday dear Stuuuuuuuuaaaaaaaaarrrrrrrrrrrrrtttttttttttttttttttttttttttt,
   Happy Birthday to you!

Hope it's a happy one and that you got lots of neat presents!

Hope also you got to share with family! :D :D
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Hanibal94 on 07 July 2014, 10:56:38
Happy Birthday, Stuart!

(http://www.sugarliciousonline.com/cakes/birthday/animals/images/fullsize/australia.jpg)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Caro on 07 July 2014, 11:05:29
Happy birthday wishes from me too, Stuart.

(http://www.flagsrfun.com/images/imagesAussie%20Thongs%20Garden%20Flag%20-%20FlagsRFun.jpg)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: AvastMH on 07 July 2014, 12:06:56
Haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaappy birthday to you
Haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaappy birthday to you
Happppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppy birthday dear Stuart,
Happyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy birthday to you


Isn't it good to be 21 again, and again, and again, and again........
 ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Randi on 08 July 2014, 07:34:59
Main result of Facebook emotion study: less trust in Facebook (https://www.sciencenews.org/blog/scicurious/main-result-facebook-emotion-study-less-trust-facebook)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Dean on 08 July 2014, 07:45:22
Main result of Facebook emotion study: less trust in Facebook (https://www.sciencenews.org/blog/scicurious/main-result-facebook-emotion-study-less-trust-facebook)

You mean somebody EVER trusted them??!!

 They had a 'game' they called it which supposedly showed how many times someone looked at your Profile Page. Someone sent me a screen shot saying I looked at theirs 17 times in 7 days! I didn't even know the person exactly - we shared membership in a boating 'Group.' I questioned FaceBook and explained that as an Educator working with young children their 'game' could cost me my family, my career, and my life! I gave them 36 hours to 'clean' my file or they would be hearing from my Solicitor. I stayed off Fb for a year but have recently rejoined because of requests from the Boat Group and a Weather Group I consult for.

My files are VERY locked down and I watch it VERY closely!  These people scare me!
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: AvastMH on 08 July 2014, 08:15:48
Main result of Facebook emotion study: less trust in Facebook (https://www.sciencenews.org/blog/scicurious/main-result-facebook-emotion-study-less-trust-facebook)

You mean somebody EVER trusted them??!!

 They had a 'game' they called it which supposedly showed how many times someone looked at your Profile Page. Someone sent me a screen shot saying I looked at theirs 17 times in 7 days! I didn't even know the person exactly - we shared membership in a boating 'Group.' I questioned FaceBook and explained that as an Educator working with young children their 'game' could cost me my family, my career, and my life! I gave them 36 hours to 'clean' my file or they would be hearing from my Solicitor. I stayed off Fb for a year but have recently rejoined because of requests from the Boat Group and a Weather Group I consult for.

My files are VERY locked down and I watch it VERY closely!  These people scare me!

well said...had lots of trouble with silly facebook sites being very rude to me and my colleague a few years back - it nearly cost a dozen oxford students their degrees. They all had to see the Proctor just a week before their exams...crazy.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: JamesAPrattIII on 08 July 2014, 18:24:18
On the USS Concord replies 8358 & 8359 "BLR" stand for Breech Loading Rifled (gun).
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Randi on 09 July 2014, 02:13:34
Thanks!
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 09 July 2014, 02:25:29
Thanks James.
Long time no hear.
What dates are you currently doing on the Concord?

I wish we could find out what the rest of the numbers mean.
Someone did mention a code book but the number in it did not make sense to me.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Hanibal94 on 09 July 2014, 02:30:29
Main result of Facebook emotion study: less trust in Facebook (https://www.sciencenews.org/blog/scicurious/main-result-facebook-emotion-study-less-trust-facebook)

You mean somebody EVER trusted them??!!

 They had a 'game' they called it which supposedly showed how many times someone looked at your Profile Page. Someone sent me a screen shot saying I looked at theirs 17 times in 7 days! I didn't even know the person exactly - we shared membership in a boating 'Group.' I questioned FaceBook and explained that as an Educator working with young children their 'game' could cost me my family, my career, and my life! I gave them 36 hours to 'clean' my file or they would be hearing from my Solicitor. I stayed off Fb for a year but have recently rejoined because of requests from the Boat Group and a Weather Group I consult for.

My files are VERY locked down and I watch it VERY closely!  These people scare me!

well said...had lots of trouble with silly facebook sites being very rude to me and my colleague a few years back - it nearly cost a dozen oxford students their degrees. They all had to see the Proctor just a week before their exams...crazy.

I am not surprised. This is just the latest in a long list of bad things Facebook has done with people's data. They just don't respect your privacy at all!
I have a Facebook account, but only so I can communicate with other people in my course when we're doing group presentations or similar. Call me crazy, but I don't understand the appeal at all.
If you want to talk to somebody, just send them an email or use Skype!
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Randi on 09 July 2014, 02:44:04
Quote
Call me crazy, but I don't understand the appeal at all.
If you want to talk to somebody, just send them an email or use Skype!
Ditto!

I only got a Facebook account when I became a moderator, and even now I almost never look at it.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Craig on 09 July 2014, 05:54:53
e-mail is good enough for me, too.  I try to keep a low profile on the Web.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 09 July 2014, 13:01:23
I use FB to post things on outside subjects that interest me - things like kitty cams, my nephew's publishing date for his next novel or Old Weather stuff.  My personal life happens in more private venues.  :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: jil on 09 July 2014, 13:05:31
Hi all -

I have had a question regarding weather and ships' operations during WWI - along the lines of did the weather cause any changes to operations a la D-Day...

Does anyone remember anything along these lines happening with the WWI ships?

Thanks -
Hi Kathy,
Slightly delayed response due to shore leave! Don't know if this was what you were after but HMS Attentive (http://www.naval-history.net/OWShips-WW1-06Attentive.htm) was involved in the Zeebrugge raid which eventually took place on 22nd/23rd April 1918 but had originally been scheduled for 11th/12th. The wind changed direction after they had set out the first time which meant that the planned smoke screens would have blown in the wrong direction so it was abandoned. 

And very belated Happy Birthday to Stuart!
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Kathy on 09 July 2014, 13:54:29
Thanks Jil -

That is what the person posing the question wants - I'll pass this along -

Ta -

Kathy
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Randi on 09 July 2014, 14:08:16
Greater protection for ships lost in World War One  (http://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-28056244)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: propriome on 09 July 2014, 17:34:37
Hi everyone!
Not exactly weather, and not old at all, but i would like to share with all of you the birth of a brand new OW baby!

My first child Alessandro has born this afternoon at 3:46pm (gmt+1). 50cm for 3.510kg.

He'll hopefully join OW around phase XXI or so (when we'll be transcribing viking runes). He's just beside me at the moment, and he seems pretty happy about the idea ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Caro on 09 July 2014, 17:54:14
Congratulations Matteo and Valentina and welcome Alessandro!
Great news.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Kathy on 09 July 2014, 17:55:58
Congratulations Matteo!

Pictures!!!!

 :-*
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 09 July 2014, 18:44:45
Well done Matteo and Valentina.
First one, how many more in the planning, a crew full?  ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Craig on 09 July 2014, 19:12:42
Congratulations, Matteo and Valentina!!!

I am looking forward to Phase XXI. Allessandro will hopefully not have to transcribe the Unalga  ;D

Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Randi on 10 July 2014, 02:39:19
Congratulations Matteo and Valentina!
Welcome Alessandro!

(funny, I don't remember a ship by that name ;))

Quote from: http://www.exeterflotilla.org/history_misc/nav_customs/nc_customs.html
An Officer in the Fleet has informed me that when his grandfather was commanding a brig off the Spanish coast in about 1835 he made the following entry in his diary: "This day the Surgeon informed me that a woman onboard had been labouring in child for twelve hours and if I could see my way to permit the firing of a broadside to leeward nature would be assisted by the shock.  I complied with the request and she was delivered of fine male child."

I think I may say that this is one of the few occasions on which Gunnery Officers of the Navy can truthfully claimed to have achieved a satisfactory result without hitting the target.

 ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: studentforever on 10 July 2014, 03:43:07
Congratulations and best wishes to you all.   :)  I suspect Alessandro will acquire a vocabulary which will confuse his classmates.  After all he'll be chatting away by the centenary of the Armistice.
 ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Dean on 10 July 2014, 08:08:29
Congratulations Matteo and Valentina!
Welcome Alessandro!

(funny, I don't remember a ship by that name ;))

Quote from: http://www.exeterflotilla.org/history_misc/nav_customs/nc_customs.html
An Officer in the Fleet has informed me that when his grandfather was commanding a brig off the Spanish coast in about 1835 he made the following entry in his diary: "This day the Surgeon informed me that a woman onboard had been labouring in child for twelve hours and if I could see my way to permit the firing of a broadside to leeward nature would be assisted by the shock.  I complied with the request and she was delivered of fine male child."

I think I may say that this is one of the few occasions on which Gunnery Officers of the Navy can truthfully claimed to have achieved a satisfactory result without hitting the target.


Well Son of a Gun!!!!  ;)

Congratulations to the newest member of the crew and his obviously proud parents. May God richly Bless all.
 ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Helen J on 10 July 2014, 09:47:22
Congratulations, and welcome to our newest crew member!
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Maikel on 10 July 2014, 10:22:34
Congratulations and best wishes Matteo and family. :D
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Kathy on 10 July 2014, 11:20:16
A baby like ships needs some tending -
cleaning (poop deck!) and occasionally mending.
But, with a eager, fine crew,
and a good supply base or two -
the voyage will be quite mind bending!
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: lollia paolina on 10 July 2014, 11:21:10
Vivissimi rallegramenti e i pi? affettuosi auguri a Matteo, Valentina ed al piccolo Alessandro :) :) :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Michael on 10 July 2014, 12:30:47
I've been away for only a week and so much has happened to people in the Chat room. Congratulations Matteo and Valentina. Belated Happy Birthday, Captain! We had a lovely time steaming around Desolation Sound. The first three days were ocr STR NIM. The next, and final days were b None. When I get caught up on a gazillion emails, I may send a photo or two. In the meantime, our yacht...  ;D  At least, this would be the only yacht I could afford, should I ever be in the market...

Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Caro on 10 July 2014, 12:41:49
Ooooo, she's lovely. In need of a little work maybe ....
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Kathy on 10 July 2014, 12:43:26
Get started scraping and painting!
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Hanibal94 on 10 July 2014, 14:27:28
Big congrats and best wishes to Matteo and family!
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Thursday Next on 10 July 2014, 14:35:01
Congratulations Matteo and Valentina!
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Michael on 10 July 2014, 14:45:26
Our navigator - a Pentium III Intel chip. The USS Concord should have been so lucky...

Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: jil on 10 July 2014, 16:13:13
Congratulations to Matteo and Valentina!

Hello to Alessandro  :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Caro on 11 July 2014, 02:26:23
Morning all.

Here is today's sports news: http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/horse-racing/28244486  :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Randi on 11 July 2014, 02:31:22
 ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: AvastMH on 11 July 2014, 12:51:51
 :D :D :D
..and it came second by a short beak...oh no - no jockey so it is disqualified....shame!
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Helen J on 12 July 2014, 16:19:53
Hello all, just to let you know I'm heading off tomorrow on some shore leave - a whole fortnight!  I might drop into the forum from time to time (that is just about possible on my tablet) but won't be doing any transcribing/editing.
I'll look forward to seeing what's been going in my absence when I get back - new babies, outrageous events, improbable transcriptions and all.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Hanibal94 on 12 July 2014, 16:36:19
Have a good shore leave, Helen! I know from experience how nice a break can be every now and then.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Randi on 12 July 2014, 17:38:55
Have fun, Helen!
Just be sure you get back on time and sober ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Michael on 12 July 2014, 19:27:56
Hello all, just to let you know I'm heading off tomorrow on some shore leave - a whole fortnight!  I might drop into the forum from time to time (that is just about possible on my tablet) but won't be doing any transcribing/editing.
I'll look forward to seeing what's been going in my absence when I get back - new babies, outrageous events, improbable transcriptions and all.

Enjoy your break Helen! I had a break once...  :'( :'( :'(  I think it was in June, 1964 and it lasted about 2 1/2 hours.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Kathy on 12 July 2014, 20:01:11
have some chocolate and read a good mystery!
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: studentforever on 13 July 2014, 02:21:16
Tell us about it when you get back - the logs will be waiting!
Enjoy yourself.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 13 July 2014, 02:41:33
Sounds like a wonderful idea, Helen, enjoy! :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Caro on 13 July 2014, 05:21:51
Have a great time, Helen.  :)

Good morning all.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 13 July 2014, 07:12:32
Enjoy Helen and good night from down under
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Dean on 13 July 2014, 07:46:50
Have an enjoyable and restful break. You deserve it! :-*
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Thursday Next on 13 July 2014, 14:35:34
Have a good holiday, Helen!
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 13 July 2014, 17:22:32
I hope Helen has picked a warmer place than here at the moment. 2 days of waking up to -3c and only 10c IN the house.
What ever happened to sunny (and warm) Australia?
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Michael on 13 July 2014, 20:05:40
I hope Helen has picked a warmer place than here at the moment. 2 days of waking up to -3c and only 10c IN the house.
What ever happened to sunny (and warm) Australia?

It just proves that climate change, just as Rupert Murdoch sort of said in the Sydney Morning Herald, is a joke and nothing to worry about.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 13 July 2014, 21:54:49
I hope Helen has picked a warmer place than here at the moment. 2 days of waking up to -3c and only 10c IN the house.
What ever happened to sunny (and warm) Australia?

Winter?
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 13 July 2014, 22:21:15
Sure is but a lovely day came after the cold start.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 13 July 2014, 22:38:11
 :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Michael on 15 July 2014, 20:01:14
I guess that USS Concord isn't the only ship with morale and discipline issues:

Navy Vessel Ordered Home (https://ca.news.yahoo.com/canadian-navy-vessel-ordered-home-following-unacceptable-actions-162248996.html)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Maikel on 16 July 2014, 04:03:34
If you're able to watch BBC2, tonight at 8 o'clock (UK time) the first part of "Operation Cloud Lab: Secrets of the Skies" will air.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p01hn0n9 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p01hn0n9)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Caro on 16 July 2014, 04:51:10
Looks interesting!

Morning all. Summer time in the UK. Mid 20sC, rising to around 30C by Friday, allegedly.  :o
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 16 July 2014, 05:01:54
Caro, please save me some of those 30's for September.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Caro on 16 July 2014, 05:11:54
Will do.  ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: AvastMH on 16 July 2014, 10:17:51
"Here kitty kitty kitty!".....see front cover of Oxford Uni's web page for a very striking photo all you ardent cat lovers.... ;)

Can't get the attachment to work and must dash, so try this:
www.ox.ac.uk
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: jil on 16 July 2014, 12:12:49
 8) although I feel a bit like I'm about to be dinner!
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 16 July 2014, 13:16:21
Did that come from Snapshot Serengeti?  Not at all sure that I want to take her home with me.  ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: AvastMH on 16 July 2014, 13:46:36
I think it was Serengeti - and it does give you that 'what would the world look like if I were a cat treat nibble' feeling -  :o ;) :D
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Thursday Next on 16 July 2014, 15:01:06
If you're able to watch BBC2, tonight at 8 o'clock (UK time) the first part of "Operation Cloud Lab: Secrets of the Skies" will air.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p01hn0n9 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p01hn0n9)

I'm beginning to think the Programme Controller for BBC2 is a member of this forum - documentaries this week on clouds (today), Britain's extreme weather (tomorrow), and bees (yesterday).  Surely this cannot be coincidence?
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: jil on 16 July 2014, 16:23:33
It makes a nice change from all that sport but is distracting from OW!

I've been resisting for a while but have finally succumbed and bought some RN related postcards. The final straw was a photo of a memorial for some of the crew for HMS Hermione (which I'll post in the RN burials thread), but there was also one of a weather station. In pencil on the back it says 'Weather station - unknown HM ship between 1913/1919'. Unfortunately the original is a bit blurred (it's not my camera!) so I'm not totally sure what it is.  :-\

And thanks to Caro for beating the photo into submission so I could load it.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Randi on 16 July 2014, 17:53:50
 8)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 16 July 2014, 18:03:43
Really cool.  :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Caro on 17 July 2014, 02:39:28
The quality is not great but that is such an interesting pic. Thanks for posting, Janet L.

Humid 27C forecast today. There will be a thunderstorm sooner or later.  :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Craig on 17 July 2014, 07:09:54
The Bear sighted the USRC Tahoma (1909) near St. Paul Island.  03/09/1910

The first part of her USRC service looks interesting http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USRC_Tahoma_%281909%29

The last part too  :o



I fixed the link ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Randi on 17 July 2014, 07:34:02
I see that "our" Patterson to came to her rescue! ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: AvastMH on 17 July 2014, 08:33:45
If you're able to watch BBC2, tonight at 8 o'clock (UK time) the first part of "Operation Cloud Lab: Secrets of the Skies" will air.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p01hn0n9 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p01hn0n9)

I'm beginning to think the Programme Controller for BBC2 is a member of this forum - documentaries this week on clouds (today), Britain's extreme weather (tomorrow), and bees (yesterday).  Surely this cannot be coincidence?

I noticed this programming as well...spooky..or, as you say, one of us?  :D :D :D
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 17 July 2014, 18:51:25
My feelings go out to the family's of the passengers on flight MH17. 
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 17 July 2014, 19:04:34
May they all rest in peace.

This is a terrible day in the world, both in Ukraine and Gaza.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Randi on 18 July 2014, 01:50:10
Yes, so many innocent victims.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Caro on 18 July 2014, 02:46:05
Words fail me. It's a sad, sad day for the world.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Michael on 18 July 2014, 12:42:37
I've been listening to a program about bots on the internet. Some of these bots imitate people and visit chat rooms, blogs and forums in an attempt to connect to people to steal information, influence the ranking of a site in terms of internet searches, spread false information etc. etc. etc. My question is, "How do I know I'm not really just a bot, a clever algorithm that thinks it has a cat and likes Christmas cakes?"  ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Craig on 18 July 2014, 13:44:14
Because you're doing OW. No bot would do that - too difficult  ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Hanibal94 on 18 July 2014, 14:30:42
It is extremely unlikely that a bot would be able to ingest Christmas cakes - and even more unlikely that it would feel happiness while doing it.
So you're fine, Michael. No need to worry.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Caro on 18 July 2014, 16:52:32
The bots that try to get in here are not capable of holding a rational conversation.  :P ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 18 July 2014, 16:56:14
Seems like I did not fool you then.   :o
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 18 July 2014, 17:07:08
Nope - we are all smarter than bots.  ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Michael on 18 July 2014, 18:18:07
It is extremely unlikely that a bot would be able to ingest Christmas cakes - and even more unlikely that it would feel happiness while doing it.
So you're fine, Michael. No need to worry.
Great! I feel much better, now. I was worried because I've seen Windows go from Windows 3 to Windows 8.1 and I seem to be stuck at Michael 1.0, which would be a problem, had I been a bot.  :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Randi on 18 July 2014, 18:30:12
 ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 19 July 2014, 18:35:18
Happy Ice Cream Day to all our American friends when Sunday rolls around.
 All you can eat (https://docburnsteins.com/all-you-can-eat/)

I have no affiliation with the company mentioned above it just looked delicious.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 19 July 2014, 19:10:08
It looks wonderful - if we lived in San Luis Obispo, California!!!  But thanks for the information, I will be sure to celebrate at my local ice cream parlor.  Not the kind of holiday to be ignored.  :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Craig on 19 July 2014, 19:41:56
As my uncle used to recite:

I scream
You scream
We all scream
For ice cream

 ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Craig on 21 July 2014, 06:23:32
I can't log on to OW. Both Firefox and IE say:

Quote
We're sorry, but something went wrong.

We've been notified about this issue and we'll take a look at it shortly.

It's a beautiful morning here. I guess I'll just have to read the paper and have a cup of tea.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: propriome on 21 July 2014, 06:33:56
Yep same here from almost a couple hours...

Here we have ocrrtl Nim 10 (was above 34o C till yesterday with absolute clear sky)... it seems i'll have to find a dinghy if i want to reach some place where to have my lunch :P
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Randi on 21 July 2014, 06:57:06
I was on earlier today, but now I get the same message.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 21 July 2014, 07:20:48
Well then I am going to bed.
Goodnight.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 21 July 2014, 07:52:47
Me too - it is still down. :(
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Randi on 21 July 2014, 07:58:37
(http://smileys.on-my-web.com/repository/Sad/crying-022.gif)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Caro on 21 July 2014, 08:21:30
Solar Stormwatch is down too. We're waiting for news....


..... and we're back.  :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Hanibal94 on 21 July 2014, 09:04:53
We are indeed back! Alright!

Out of curiosity, does anybody know what went wrong?
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Caro on 21 July 2014, 09:18:52
All I can tell you is that the problem was caused by 'database issues'.
Shout loudly if it happens again please.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Danny252 on 21 July 2014, 15:52:32
The weather here has been ridiculously sunny and warm for several days now - British people were not built to handle this sort of heat :(

Had an interesting bit of weather on Friday night - ocl, but no t. I thought I was going mad at first, but on looking online, it seems the flashes were coming from a good 30 miles away, but the sound wasn't carrying.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Caro on 21 July 2014, 16:09:01
Yes indeed, there has been some spectacular lightning recently.
I must say I have been enjoying the warmth very much.  ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Dean on 21 July 2014, 19:42:21
The weather here has been ridiculously sunny and warm for several days now - British people were not built to handle this sort of heat :(

Had an interesting bit of weather on Friday night - ocl, but no t. I thought I was going mad at first, but on looking online, it seems the flashes were coming from a good 30 miles away, but the sound wasn't carrying.

That is somewhat common around this end of Lake Ontario (West) n the summer. The lightning flashes but sound does not carry.  We call it 'summer lightning' or 'heat lightning (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heat_lightning).'
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 22 July 2014, 02:48:33
Hi Danny.
Do you want to be on the OW Map? @  http://goo.gl/maps/Z2IsJ
If so PM me with your town and occupation if you want.

Stuart.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Danny252 on 22 July 2014, 14:27:54
I must say I have been enjoying the warmth very much.  ;)

Well, at least that's one of us!
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 22 July 2014, 14:48:10
I must say I have been enjoying the warmth very much.  ;)

Well, at least that's one of us!

Ex-pat Ozzies and Mid-West Americans all consider 80sF in July "normal".  Everything is relative.  I'm uncomfortable, today in Chicagoland is only the 3rd day this year that will hit 90 - and tomorrow a cold front is coming thru dropping us back into the 70s.  Downrigth chilly for July, that is.
(http://www.picgifs.com/smileys/smileys-and-emoticons/summer/smileys-summer-374559.gif)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Caro on 23 July 2014, 02:11:13
Morning all.
More warm, sunny weather to enjoy.  ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Michael on 23 July 2014, 12:03:06
Morning all.
More warm, sunny weather to enjoy.  ;)

Raining here for the fourth time this month!!!! Up until this morning we've had a total 2.4 mm (1/10 of an inch) so far this July. I could have drowned!!!
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 23 July 2014, 16:21:34
After a week or so of minus mornings (temps that is, we did have a morning) it is nice to have a +6c to wake up to and heading for 12c.
Rainfall so far this month 5.6mm, average 46.5, max 154mm, min 1.5mm and with an El Nino on it's way we are going to get less rain.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Michael on 23 July 2014, 18:09:23
The Concord reported bclrt, so I thought bacon, cheese, lettuce, radish and tomato. That's what happens when you skip lunch...  :D
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: JamesAPrattIII on 23 July 2014, 18:20:56
8401 & 8402 glad to be of help. I would do more but my internet access has been cut down and I have other things I have to do but, I'll be back. Correction BLR breech loading rifle. If you have other questions like this post them here and I or somebody else may be able to answer them.

8465 to 8468 sort of O/T but it looks like the Ukraine is in a state of civil war like the former Yugoslavia in the 1990s and it could be this way for the next 5-10+ years.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Randi on 25 July 2014, 13:47:23
Thunderstorm!

Hopefully we will have a good rain and cool off a bit - with no damage ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Michael on 25 July 2014, 14:09:23
Thank heavens! Someone out there is alive.

It has been 28 hours and 36 minutes without anyone on the chat line; 24 July was a day with no posts at all. Is this some kind of record? I note that the chat posts have been running for 1382 days, with 8,500 posts in that time for an average of just over six posts per day, so I suppose there must have been other days, too, without a post. Interesting, though irrelevant, as the question is, I must get back to the Concord.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Craig on 25 July 2014, 14:14:11
We're in the summer doldrums, Michael. No wind in our sails (except for transcribing  ;D)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Caro on 25 July 2014, 14:45:30
A cracking thunderstorm passed through here this afternoon too, bringing prolonged and heavy rain.  :o
My garden said thank you.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Hanibal94 on 25 July 2014, 15:50:09
Saxony has been getting lots of sun. Temperature is typically between 25 and 30 C, although there are occasional showers.
I've been swimming in some local lakes - great place to cool off, just wish there weren't so many old people [sun]bathing in the nude (this is legal where I live).
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Randi on 25 July 2014, 17:06:30
Just remember, someday you will be old ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 25 July 2014, 17:07:18
just wish there weren't so many old people

One day you will join the 'Oldies'   :P  (You just beat me in with that one Randi as I was typing it.

Come down to Bamberg on the 26th of Aug and see an Oldie (with clothes on) as I sail into town.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 25 July 2014, 17:13:56
Sounds like perfect summer.  And never for one minute forget "old people" have sharp minds and wicked senses of humor.  Do you really want to be this blunt?  :)

(http://www.picgifs.com/smileys/smileys-and-emoticons/summer/smileys-summer-374559.gif)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Michael on 25 July 2014, 17:30:23
Even though I am old enough to get an Old Age Pension, I agree with Hanibal. The thought of
so many old people [sun]bathing in the nude
is rather off-putting. There comes a time when aging bodies are better clothed than not.

This reminds me of a time many years ago when I was working up in the Peace River country in north east BC. Two of the local farm families and I went for a picnic on the banks of the Peace River just east of Fort St. John. It was a hot day, and I said how wonderful it would be to go for a swim in the river. The matriarch of one of the families asked, "Why don't you?"

"No bathing suit," I replied.

"Our family is Danish and this other family is Swedish; we always swim in the nude," she said.

"Great!" I said, and I stripped off my clothes and went for a lovely swim in the river. Only later did her son, a fellow student in my classes at university, how shocked and appalled both families were. Apparently it was a joke and, not being swimmers, they couldn't believe that anyone would ever do such a thing.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: DJ_59 on 25 July 2014, 19:54:26
Saxony has been getting lots of sun. Temperature is typically between 25 and 30 C, although there are occasional showers.
I've been swimming in some local lakes - great place to cool off, just wish there weren't so many old people [sun]bathing in the nude (this is legal where I live).

I recall a funny story that started just like this one from another forum (music-related), where someone railed against old people being nude on a beach.  The fun part was when he said he was asked to leave because he was none too attractive in his Emperor Clothing, either.  He chalked that up to nearsightedness brought on by the sun bathers being 1,000 years old.  The rest of us just figured he cut a disgusting figure in his birthday suit.

I think anyone who isn't comfortable with seeing people of all ages laying about nekked should carefully avoid nude beaches.  You'd never see me flopped out there, though.  There are some things mankind was never meant to see.

Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Caro on 26 July 2014, 03:10:21
Greetings all, young and old and in-between.
Sunny and 27C is the forecast for this neck of the woods. I like.  ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Randi on 26 July 2014, 03:16:11
We had a nice bit of rain and it is a bit cooler for the moment :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Danny252 on 26 July 2014, 16:20:09
My last three days have been spent working in signal boxes (https://www.flickr.com/photos/58735253@N03/7228734888/in/gallery-47071837@N02-72157630398964318/) - which are essentially large greenhouses and involve rather a bit of elbow grease to . On all three days, the interior temperature has been above 32C. Tomorrow is more of the same - plenty of water required, methinks.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Caro on 26 July 2014, 16:35:04
That sounds like hard work, Danny. Keep drinking lots of water.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Danny252 on 26 July 2014, 16:50:01
Don't you worry - the railway runs on tea, and I am now at the stage where I can't work without at least some tea in my cup. It would be much easier if only some git didn't keep drinking it all the time! ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Randi on 26 July 2014, 16:55:16
What do you do in the signal boxes?
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Danny252 on 26 July 2014, 19:59:20
Essentially, it's the mysterious art of steering trains - sadly, nobody thought to include a steering wheel on the engine, so people like me have to decide where to send the trains instead.

We get lots of levers (https://www.flickr.com/photos/llangollen_signalman/5848545171/), because this is proper Victorian/Edwardian technology, and everything is controlled manually via iron rods or steel wires. Of course, being old-style technology, it also means that we get lots of (very shiny!) brass (https://www.flickr.com/photos/mugsandb/13725572024). To indicate what levers do what, diagrams are also provided (https://www.flickr.com/photos/llangollen_signalman/5849102768), with lights to indicate where trains are (you'd be surprised by how sneaky they can be!).

We use  lots of strangely coloured and shaped signals (https://www.flickr.com/photos/martincreese/10176905686) to communicate with drivers as they fly past - although all the ones in that photo apply to trains going the other way... So here's how it looks for trains going in the right direction (https://www.flickr.com/photos/g8led/9970489014/)! Of course, there are lights in them so they can be seen at night, to allow for moody night-time photoshoots let drivers see them in the dark (https://www.flickr.com/photos/tom_clarke/6874699287).

Signal Boxes come in all sizes, from ones that fit in your pocket (https://www.flickr.com/photos/llangollen_signalman/5848537995) to XXXL sized ones (https://www.flickr.com/photos/chrisbell50000/5067410829) (although none of that size are used on heritage railways!).

And, naturally, the aforementioned tea (https://www.flickr.com/photos/llangollen_signalman/5848542779) is forefront in all activities.

(Credit to the relevant photographers whose work I have linked!)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 26 July 2014, 20:54:03
Excellent descriptions and pictures there Danny.
Nice staff and token boxes in the last one.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Randi on 27 July 2014, 02:50:42
Neat!
Thanks, Danny.

(you must have larger pockets than I do ;) ;D)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Hanibal94 on 27 July 2014, 03:55:57
I second what Stuart said. Thanks for sharing this!
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Craig on 27 July 2014, 06:38:57
It's good to see that some practices resist computerization, Danny. You will be largely unaffected by the next solar storm that will bring down the power grids  http://www.cnn.com/2014/07/25/tech/2012-solar-storm/index.html

After viewing your pictures I had a strong urge to pour myself a cup of tea  ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Randi on 27 July 2014, 06:59:38
I'm drinking my tea ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Danny252 on 27 July 2014, 15:51:45
We'll survive solar storms, but that doesn't mean you don't have to plead with, shout at, and occasionally hit the equipment to make it work.

(Although the same might be said about getting engine crews to make them work...)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 27 July 2014, 17:49:51
But if the engine crews did not have to hit them us fitters would have nothing to fix.  %^)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Randi on 28 July 2014, 07:47:27
The Last Days of Blackbeard
An exclusive account of the final raid and political maneuvers of history's most notorious pirate
(http://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/last-days-blackbeard-180949440/?page=1)


Excerpts:

For the 18 men aboard the French merchant ship Rose Emelye, the evening of August 23, 1718, was shaping up to be as routine as the 167 that had preceded it since they'd left Nantes. They'd spent the spring following the winds and currents across the Atlantic to tropical Martinique, and much of the summer unloading French cargo and taking on bags of cocoa and barrels of freshly refined sugar. Now they were following the Gulf Stream home in the company of another French merchant ship, La Toison d'Or, sailing just a stone's throw behind and to leeward. The American mainland had disappeared behind the horizon days before. The next day would raise Bermuda above the horizon, the final waypoint before making landfall in Europe.

Then, as the sun sank low in the sky, someone spotted sails bearing down on their stern.

Over the next three hours the sky grew dark and the vessel drew ever closer. To the Frenchmen's relief, it was a tiny vessel: a sloop with Spanish lines better suited to shuttling cargo between Caribbean islands than to crossing an ocean. Still, something wasn't right. What was it doing out here in the open ocean, and why was it on an intercept course with the Frenchmen's much larger oceangoing merchant ships? As the mysterious sloop overtook them and pulled alongside, they knew they would have answers soon enough.

In the last moments, Capt. Jan Goupil would have seen three cannon muzzles rolled out of gun ports on the tiny sloop's sides and dozens of armed men crowded on its decks. He ordered his crew of 17 to prepare for action, getting Rose Emelye's four cannons to the ready. Remove yourselves, Goupil's mate cried out to the men on the sloop, or we will fire!

On the tiny sloop, a tall, slim man with a long black beard barked out an order. His helmsman threw the tiller hard to lee, men released ropes, and, sails briefly flapping, the strange vessel suddenly swung hard about, shooting by in the opposite direction.

Goupil's skin may have turned cold. The sloop - the pirate sloop - swept down to the unarmed Toison d'Or. Minutes later the vessels' wooden hulls came together with a moan. Pirates swarmed over the gunwales and onto the ship's decks, seizing the crew, perhaps as human shields. The bearded man had fooled him. Now he found himself facing not one attacker but two.

Soon the bearded man was alongside again and his men discharged their cannons. Musket balls flew over Goupil's head. There was nothing to be done. He turned Rose Emelye into the wind, drifted to a halt and surrendered his command.

Blackbeard, the notorious pirate, had captured two vessels more than twice the size of his own - a feat described here for the first time. He could not have known that these would be the last prizes of his career and that in just three months he and most of his crew would be dead.

Out of all the pirates who've trolled the seas over the past 3,000 years, Blackbeard is the most famous. His nearest rivals - Capt. William Kidd and Sir Henry Morgan - weren't really pirates at all, but privateers, mercenaries given permission by their sovereign to attack enemy shipping in time of war. Blackbeard and his contemporaries in the early 18th-century Caribbean had nobody's permission to do what they were doing; they were outlaws. But unlike the aristocrats who controlled the British, French and Spanish colonial empires, many ordinary people in Britain and British America saw Blackbeard and his fellow pirates as heroes, Robin Hood figures fighting a rear-guard action against a corrupt, unaccountable and increasingly tyrannical ruling class.

...

The Bahamian pirates were unlike most other pirates before or since in that they engaged in more than simple banditry. Most of them - Blackbeard included - were former merchant and naval sailors who thought themselves engaged in a social revolt against shipowners and captains who'd made their prior lives miserable. Bellamy's crew members referred to themselves as Robin Hood's men. "They vilify us, the scoundrels do, when there is only this difference," Bellamy once told a captive. "They rob the poor under the cover of law...and we plunder the rich under the cover of our own courage."

There was also a democratic spirit aboard the pirates' ships, an unusual development six decades before Lexington and Yorktown, more than seven ahead of the storming of the Bastille. Upon seizing a vessel, the pirates turned its government upside down. Instead of using whips and beatings to enforce a rigid, top-down hierarchy, they elected and deposed their captains by popular vote. They shared their treasure almost equally and on most ships didn't allow the captain his own cabin. "They were very shrewd in the way they reorganized their ships to limit the captain's power," says maritime historian Marcus Rediker of the University of Pittsburgh. "There was a real social consciousness at work there."

...

Despite his infamous reputation, Blackbeard was remarkably judicious in his use of force. In the dozens of eyewitness accounts of his victims, there is not a single instance in which he killed anyone prior to his final, fatal battle with the Royal Navy. "I haven't seen one single piece of evidence that Blackbeard ever used violence against anyone," says Trent University historian Arne Bialuschewski, who unearthed several forgotten accounts by captives and others in the archives of Jamaica in 2008. Imperial authorities and allied newspapers, Bialuschewski says, "created this image of Blackbeard as a monster."

...

Pirate vessels were among the few places in European America where slaves could free themselves. A remarkable number of pirates were of African origin, according to accounts of captives and pirates brought to trial. There were more than 30 Africans in Bellamy's crew, and in the months after capturing the Concorde, witnesses would report as many as 70 serving with Blackbeard. "Most of these black sailors on pirate ships were not slaves," Rediker, who has studied both the pirates and life aboard slave ships, told me recently. "We have an account of a group of rebellious slaves on one of the islands rowing offshore to join a pirate ship. And the pirates knew they could count on them to be totally committed and to fight to the end, because their only other option was a life of plantation slavery."

But not everyone was seen as a potential recruit. Of the 455 slaves who were still alive when Blackbeard intercepted Concorde, all but 61 were given back to Captain Dosset, along with a small sloop, which he used to ferry them back to Martinique to be sold at auction. How it was decided which people were crew and which were cargo remains a mystery, beyond the lucky minority being able-bodied males. What is known is that a substantial number of black people would remain within Blackbeard's inner circle until the day he died.

...

The papers'handwritten and stitched into a leather-bound folio by 19th-century archivists' include depositions from merchant captains describing how Blackbeard had cleverly captured their vessels in the Bay Islands off Honduras by anchoring innocently nearby and seizing officers after they naively rowed over to say hello.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Craig on 28 July 2014, 10:55:54
That's very interesting, Randi.  8)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Caro on 28 July 2014, 11:38:07
In these days of internet trolling, I had almost forgotten that meaning of 'trolling (the seas)'.
 :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Hanibal94 on 28 July 2014, 11:53:11
I didn't even know there was such a thing as "trolling the seas" - made me very confused when I read that sentence!
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Kathy on 28 July 2014, 12:22:51
I think trolling is a contraction of patrolling
 :P
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Craig on 28 July 2014, 12:33:31
Tolling is a fishing term. We used to troll for fish in moving boat, letting our line play out behind.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Michael on 28 July 2014, 13:21:36
Another large day, to use an east coast expression, here on the southern tip of Vancouver Island. 27 yesterday, probably even warmer today, and not a cloud in the sky...  :) :) :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Caro on 28 July 2014, 16:42:11
I don't know how you stand it, Michael.  ???
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: jil on 28 July 2014, 17:05:34
Just been watching an excellent program on BBC Four - Timeshift: Killer Storms and Cruel Winters (http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b04c36md). The history of how we reacted to extreme weather events - by improved defences and better recording  :). Including brief shots of various weather logs (not ship ones but still made me go 'oooo!' and made my fingers twitch) and showed a wet/dry thermometer and how it works.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Michael on 28 July 2014, 18:11:05
I don't know how you stand it, Michael.  ???

It's because of my strong constitution and heroic nature that allows me to thrive in adversity and stare hardship in the face with a laugh and even a taunt, daring Mother Nature to do her worst.  :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Caro on 29 July 2014, 02:34:41
Brave man.  :o

Good morning/afternoon/evening all.
The Killer Storms and Cruel Winters program that Janet L mentioned is available for six days on the iPlayer (for UK viewers).
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 29 July 2014, 02:48:16
quote michael.
It's because of my strong constitution and heroic nature that allows me to thrive in adversity and stare hardship in the face with a laugh and even a taunt, daring Mother Nature to do her worst.  :)

Let us see how he handles the Concord crew when I am away, them we will see what his constitution is like.  %^)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Thursday Next on 29 July 2014, 13:42:16

Good morning/afternoon/evening all.
The Killer Storms and Cruel Winters program that Janet L mentioned is available for six days on the iPlayer (for UK viewers).

I noticed it in the TV listings and have recorded it on my digibox to watch later - I chose to watch "Children of Syria" yesterday which was on at the same time.  I hope "Killer Storms and Cruel Winters" will be less harrowing viewing.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Caro on 30 July 2014, 02:23:08
Not quite so harrowing I hope, Su.
'... as solar scientist Dr Lucie Green reminds us, we've had far worse in the past, including a hurricane that finished off a fifth of Britain's navy ...'

Calm, sunny weather today, I'm glad to say.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Caro on 01 August 2014, 02:38:10
Very quiet in here. 
Hello OW and hello August. :o
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: h.kohler on 01 August 2014, 05:20:30
Hello OW

Today on the National Day one hundred years ago, Switzerland mobilized and three days later declared neutrality. Although the sympathies were different if one was German speaking or French speaking.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Caro on 01 August 2014, 05:50:04
(http://lh3.ggpht.com/HRGBi6ogvlpD1ubbZIXFyqP3u9SKjIzyQdUdRsM0qBMDcxZHi4KapNFvr9Z3Vw2mldw8Uk6BVjBOMVhCe53QSS6vJVfz2b6dM6Nf9216=s660)

And a happy August 1 to you, Hansjorg.  :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 01 August 2014, 08:20:06
Happy August 1st, Hansjorg!
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: h.kohler on 01 August 2014, 12:19:12
Thank you both, am I the only member of the Swiss navy around here?  ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 01 August 2014, 12:34:05
I do believe so - and you sail over the Alps very nicely.   ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Caro on 01 August 2014, 12:55:42
Ai Sprooch isch nie gnueg.  ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: h.kohler on 01 August 2014, 12:58:23
 ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Michael on 02 August 2014, 14:25:52
Thursday evening and the first of the blackberry harvest of the season. While I was wandering the back roads in the rural parts of Victoria, I was meditating on the lessons of life taught by harvesting wild blackberries:
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Craig on 02 August 2014, 14:34:23
Good advice, Michael. I have some wild blackberries growing in my back yard. They ripen at the same time as my raspberries, which makes a nice contrast. I see that squirrels like the blackberries too, but they are not greedy like me.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: AvastMH on 02 August 2014, 15:41:14
Thursday evening and the first of the blackberry harvest of the season. ...
  • Without the time, effort and few scratches, you'll never enjoy a good blackberry sour cream cake, nor fresh blackberries and French Vanilla ice cream!

This is a vision of heaven...forget the clouds, angels and harps malarkey...the only white fluffy things you need here are sweet dumplings and a small sea of proper egg custard.
My new friend in life is mum's old 'grabber' that she used for fetching things around. A rubber glove finger rubber-banded onto each prong - and you can reach those elusive berries more than a metre away. And don't worry about the lost ones - many little mice will love you for them.  ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Michael on 02 August 2014, 20:52:34
Thursday evening and the first of the blackberry harvest of the season. While I was wandering the back roads in the rural parts of Victoria, I was meditating on the lessons of life taught by harvesting wild blackberries:
  • "What clothes should I wear?" Some people wear heavy rubber rain gear so they can force their why deep into the bushes without getting snagged or pricked. This is very hot business, and it breaks the vines and causes riper berries to fall to the ground. Others wear heavy clothes but these, too, are hot and they snag badly. People doing this still get scratched. I wear a tight fitting short sleeved T-shirt with bare arms so I don't get snagged, and I move slowly and carefully. The trick is not to make any sudden moves and, if you feel a prickle against your arm, stop moving and then slowly move away from the prickle;
  • Even if a bush seems to have nothing but green berries, there will be some that are ripe if you look carefully - important on the first blackberry harvest of the season;
  • Even though you think you have cleaned off a branch, if you move slightly to get a different viewpoint you will see more berries that you have missed;
  • Don't just drop berries into your bucket without looking; a vine or leaf may be in the way and will deflect your berries onto the ground;
  • Pick the ripest berries first, otherwise they will fall to the ground when the vine is moved;
  • Don't pick just the ripest berries, those that are just barely ripe give the rest a wonderful tart flavour; and,
  • Without the time, effort and few scratches, you'll never enjoy a good blackberry sour cream cake, nor fresh blackberries and French Vanilla ice cream!

Sorry, I was interrupted by a cat and forgot to list the life lessons learned in the blackberry patch:
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Craig on 02 August 2014, 21:19:32
This has the makings of a good book, Michael. You could call it The Compleat Berry Picker. Izaak Walton would be pleased. 
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 02 August 2014, 23:06:55
Any Canadians heard of this idea.
 HitchBot ? (http://www.hitchbot.me/)
Seems a cool idea to me.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Michael on 02 August 2014, 23:40:07
Stuart,

Yes,we have. He was in the news quite a bit at the start of his journey, though I hadn't heard much since. I suppose I'll hear more when he reaches B. C. It's a fun project. It looks like he's on Manitoulin Island now - the largest island in a fresh water lake, and it has three lakes on the island, and there are islands in those lakes. Treasure Island is an island in a lake on an island in a lake. Can't remember if Treasure Island has a lake on it.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Randi on 03 August 2014, 02:52:44
Really neat!
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Craig on 03 August 2014, 08:17:04
My cousin in BC just mentioned it to me. I have soft spot in my heart for hitchhikers - even Hitchbots - since I hitchhiked from Vancouver to Quebec City (and back) many years ago.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Hanibal94 on 03 August 2014, 09:21:07
Pretty cool! I wonder where he will end up.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Danny252 on 03 August 2014, 14:47:45
Pretty cool! I wonder where he will end up.

And in how many pieces!
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: tastiger on 03 August 2014, 14:52:38
Pretty cool! I wonder where he will end up.

And in how many pieces!

Probably 3.14159265358979323846264338327950288419716
93993751058209749445923078164062862089986280348253
42117067982148086513282306647093844609550582231725
35940812848111745028410270193852110555964462294895
49303819644288109756659334461284756
48233786783165271201909145648566923460348610454326
64821339360726024914127372458700660631558817488152
092096282925409171536436789259036
00113305305488204665213841469519415116094330572703
65759591953092186117381932611793105118548074462379
96274956735188575272489122793818301194912983367336
24406566430860213949463952247371907021798609437027
70539217176293176752384674818467669405132000568127
14526356082778577134275778960917363717872146844090
12249534301465495853710507922796892589235420199561
12129021960
86403441815981362977477130996051870721134999999837297804995105973173281609631... pieces. :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Craig on 03 August 2014, 15:54:48
That sounds like Peggy's Cove  ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Randi on 03 August 2014, 16:24:11
I think he was thinking of Michael's blackberries ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Craig on 03 August 2014, 17:42:38
Ah, pi(e). That's not very rational  ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Randi on 03 August 2014, 18:05:15
 :P :P :P :P :P
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: tastiger on 03 August 2014, 18:14:48
Ah, pi(e). That's not very rational  ;D
No but it is delicious.  :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Michael on 03 August 2014, 18:34:54
Ah, pi(e). That's not very rational  ;D
No but it is delicious.  :)
In any case, blackberry (and apple) pie is Number 1, not 3.141...
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Caro on 04 August 2014, 02:58:48
Good morning pi(e) fans.
Cool 14C here this morning. Warming up later.  :)

Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 04 August 2014, 03:25:24
Happy birthday Mr Venn.
 Venn  (http://www.officialmarkdavidson.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/venn_diagram_example.gif)
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Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: tastiger on 04 August 2014, 04:06:52
Good morning pi(e) fans.
Cool 14C here this morning. Warming up later.  :)
Was confused for a second but then remembered "Oh yeah, different continent." 3AM for me in America (the 2nd timezone from the right).

Edit: edited because apparently I can't spell at 3:30 in the morning...
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: tastiger on 04 August 2014, 05:38:44
Uugh just a note to anyone thinking of buying any video off Amazon thinking they can download it to watch offline because it says so online: don't, they just removed that option and haven't removed the text (unless it's certain things like Kindle Fire, but not PCs). Just had to deal with getting a refund on something that I thought would entertain me on my flight, which was annoying, especially at 5 in the morning...

Thought I'd warn you guys and girls just in case.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 04 August 2014, 10:45:38
Thanks for the warning, I haven't tried downloading video yet, but I am not surprised.  They strictly limit the software that can play/read anything other than music, and their PC Kindle is primitive.

Travel safe.  :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Caro on 05 August 2014, 02:34:52
Good morning/ afternoon/evening OW.

(http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/images/76742000/jpg/_76742258_76742254.jpg)

The Houses of Parliament in London during last night's 'lights out', marking 100 years since the start of WWI.
Great pic.

Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Randi on 05 August 2014, 02:37:03
Indeed.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: tastiger on 05 August 2014, 02:49:11
Not to be nitpicky but isn't Elizabeth Tower's light still on when there aren't supposed to be any lights on? Dumb American here...
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Caro on 05 August 2014, 03:46:09
The light in the clock ('Big Ben', which is the name of the bell) is on, yes.
It wasn't a complete lights out event. We were asked to leave one light or candle burning.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: tastiger on 05 August 2014, 03:50:50
The light in the clock ('Big Ben', which is the name of the bell) is on, yes.
It wasn't a complete lights out event. We were asked to leave one light or candle burning.

Dang I remembered the difference and still didn't get it right.  :-[

Oh ok, never mind. Like I said, dumb American here...  ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Caro on 05 August 2014, 04:01:29
Not dumb! A lot of people would not know it is the Elizabeth Tower.
http://www.parliament.uk/bigben
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: tastiger on 05 August 2014, 04:13:50
Not dumb! A lot of people would not know it is the Elizabeth Tower.
http://www.parliament.uk/bigben

:D I can't seem to remember the original name though (I remember the controversy when they changed the name for Elizabeth's jumbilee).
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 05 August 2014, 05:13:19
I always used to call it Westminster tower.
Goes to show how time (PUN intended) changes things.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: tastiger on 05 August 2014, 05:26:37
I always used to call it Westminster tower.
Goes to show how time (PUN intended) changes things.

Like how I still call the Willis Tower the Sears Tower (in Chicago).  ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Caro on 05 August 2014, 10:42:06
Elizabeth Tower was known as Clock Tower until 2012.
I had to look that up.  :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Randi on 05 August 2014, 11:16:07
Not dumb! A lot of people would not know it is the Elizabeth Tower.
http://www.parliament.uk/bigben

I didn't ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 05 August 2014, 13:46:26
I somehow always thought of it as "Clock Tower" but had no idea they had named it for Elizabeth. Things still out there to learn.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 05 August 2014, 16:51:08
My area is the coldest in Australia today. (so says the local radio) -6c in one area and -4c in mine.
I'm migrating north tomorrow for warmer weather.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Craig on 05 August 2014, 18:02:25
Come up to Canada, it's nice and warm here (45.47 N, 75.69 W)   ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: AvastMH on 05 August 2014, 18:52:24
My area is the coldest in Australia today. (so says the local radio) -6c in one area and -4c in mine.
I'm migrating north tomorrow for warmer weather.

Stuart - is it you that put the mockers on the hot sunny weather we had a week ago??? ::) ::) :-[
Hope we get some back before you hit Blighty! ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 05 August 2014, 18:56:57
Come up to Canada, it's nice and warm here (45.47 N, 75.69 W)   ;D

Canada land component is next year (Toronto 16 - 19 Aug & West coast 6 Sept - 13 Sept, North West Passage in between those dates)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Randi on 06 August 2014, 02:08:37
Kitchener: The most famous pointing finger (http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-28642846)

(http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/images/76729000/jpg/_76729310_newcomp.jpg)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: tastiger on 06 August 2014, 02:11:43
Kitchener: The most famous pointing finger (http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-28642846)

(http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/images/76729000/jpg/_76729310_newcomp.jpg)

Why did they want 50 pictures of one person?
Edit: And who was first, this guy or this guy: http://contraryperspective.files.wordpress.com/2013/06/uncle-sam.jpg
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Caro on 06 August 2014, 02:45:37
Morning all. Rain!

As for Uncle Sam, the article that Randi has provided a link to says:
"Leete's design has been copied by military recruitment campaigns from India to Canada to Germany. Four million copies of James Montgomery Flagg's Uncle Sam poster were printed by the US during WW1. Indeed, the image still features in the country's recruitment drives today."
Montgomery Flagg created his poster in 1917.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: tastiger on 06 August 2014, 02:53:14
Morning all. Rain!

As for Uncle Sam, the article that Randi has provided a link to says:
"Leete's design has been copied by military recruitment campaigns from India to Canada to Germany. Four million copies of James Montgomery Flagg's Uncle Sam poster were printed by the US during WW1. Indeed, the image still features in the country's recruitment drives today."
Montgomery Flagg created his poster in 1917.

Oh ok. Didn't notice the article link.  :-[ Thanks.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: jil on 06 August 2014, 03:28:32
BBC Radio 4 Today (http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b04cf5ps) program just been talking about why WW1 naval history not better known and specifically about the Koenigin Luise and the sinking of HMS Amphion.

It started about 2 hours 25 mins into the program if you can access it on iplayer.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Michael on 06 August 2014, 10:14:22
My son sent me a link to pictures of a pyrocumulus from the Oregon Gulch fire. I had seen some very impressive pyrocumulus when I was in the Yukon. One of the fires had a pyrocumulus up to 40,000 feet and it was generating surface winds that were probably up to 50 kmh. None of my photos can compare to these....
Oregon Gulch Pyrocumulus (http://www.slate.com/blogs/future_tense/2014/08/05/oregon_gulch_fire_photos_show_pyrocumulus_clouds_and_fighter_jets_over_wildfire.html)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Thursday Next on 06 August 2014, 16:10:13

Why did they want 50 pictures of one person?


About the 50 pictures - I am guessing here, and if someone knows better I would be grateful for the real explanation.  From time to time I have bought photographs on eBay connected with ships I've been interested in.  Even family group photos come as postcards, set out on the back for a written message and an address.  So I think that at this time it was common to have a photo taken and then have it printed off as a postcard - so if your son was going off to war you would get these postcards and send them off to all your family because you were so proud of your son in his uniform.  So this looks to me like a special offer to get 50 cards for a shilling.  I was quite fascinated to see this, because it has intrigued me how these old photographs, which are clearly personal rather than commercial, are in postcard format.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: tastiger on 06 August 2014, 16:23:53

Why did they want 50 pictures of one person?


About the 50 pictures - I am guessing here, and if someone knows better I would be grateful for the real explanation.  From time to time I have bought photographs on eBay connected with ships I've been interested in.  Even family group photos come as postcards, set out on the back for a written message and an address.  So I think that at this time it was common to have a photo taken and then have it printed off as a postcard - so if your son was going off to war you would get these postcards and send them off to all your family because you were so proud of your son in his uniform.  So this looks to me like a special offer to get 50 cards for a shilling.  I was quite fascinated to see this, because it has intrigued me how these old photographs, which are clearly personal rather than commercial, are in postcard format.

Oh, I thought they were ASKING for 50 photographs for a shilling, I need to use my brain more...
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Steeleye on 07 August 2014, 19:01:14
Crowdsourcing? (play the video)

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-08-07/trapped-man-amazed-as-commuters-tilted-train/5656302 (http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-08-07/trapped-man-amazed-as-commuters-tilted-train/5656302)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 07 August 2014, 19:17:43
I saw that on the middle-of-the-night insomniac news last night - wonderful neighbors helping out.  :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Dean on 09 August 2014, 09:11:47
Crowdsourcing? (play the video)

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-08-07/trapped-man-amazed-as-commuters-tilted-train/5656302 (http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-08-07/trapped-man-amazed-as-commuters-tilted-train/5656302)

I saw that on the middle-of-the-night insomniac news last night - wonderful neighbors helping out.  :)

 Crowd Sourcing at its best!! 
;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: CHommel on 09 August 2014, 13:29:04
Interesting NY Times article about a gentleman who has documented the weather since he was 14 (more or less).  He's 101 now.

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/08/06/nyregion/long-island-weather-observer-sets-us-record-with-84-year-streak.html?_r=0



Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Hanibal94 on 09 August 2014, 15:50:58
WOW! Now THAT'S some real dedication!

Don't wanna toot my own horn here, but I believe I have the best chance of becoming the OW equivalent of that guy - I was 16 when I started this project back in October 2010, just two weeks after it launched.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Michael on 09 August 2014, 18:47:21
WOW! Now THAT'S some real dedication!

Don't wanna toot my own horn here, but I believe I have the best chance of becoming the OW equivalent of that guy - I was 16 when I started this project back in October 2010, just two weeks after it launched.

Toot your horn, Hanibal. Mr. Hendrickson logged weather twice a day for 84 years, which is about 62,000 hours. I don't know how many OW entries you've done, but you've probably done more than that. Certainly a number of transcribers have already done more than 100,000. This is not to diminish in any way the remarkable achievement of Mr. Hendrickson, but it puts the work by OW volunteers into perspective.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Craig on 09 August 2014, 18:49:35
I am sure if anyone breaks Henderson's record, it will be Hanibal but I hope all our ships will be completed before he gets to 101.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Caro on 10 August 2014, 02:42:38
Hello OW.
A 'yellow' weather warning is in force in parts of the UK as remnants of Hurricane Bertha move in.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 10 August 2014, 03:28:23
Everyone on the other side of the Pond, take cover and take care.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: jil on 10 August 2014, 03:39:51
I was suposed to be out on a botany field trip today but it's been postponed due to the weather warning  :'( so lots of time for transcribing and editting  :).

I should really be tidying the house but OW is definitely more fun.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Randi on 10 August 2014, 04:05:44
The house would be untidy again in short order anyway ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Helen J on 10 August 2014, 07:09:45
And I'm off out shortly to take my first wedding and hoping the rain holds off for long enough for us all (and especially the bride) to get into church dry and not too windblown!  It would be nice if we could all get out again in the same condition, but I'll settle for getting everyone in OK ....  :D
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Hanibal94 on 10 August 2014, 07:11:06
Good luck, Helen. Hope it goes well.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Danny252 on 10 August 2014, 08:25:01
Hello OW.
A 'yellow' weather warning is in force in parts of the UK as remnants of Hurricane Bertha move in.

That explains the blinking lights and rumbles of thunder. Rather nice and sunny now, however!
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Caro on 10 August 2014, 09:54:03
Just had five minutes of horizontal rain, followed by blue sky.  ??? :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Helen J on 10 August 2014, 12:22:04
We had thunder and lightning and torrential rain at 1pm - but by the time the wedding began (and more to the point, the bride arrived) it had pretty much stopped and she was able to walk gently up the church path rather than trying to sprint! 

After that everything was simple and it all went well - one couple safely married, and one curate with another 'first' under her belt.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Kathy on 10 August 2014, 12:33:07
I wonder who was more nervous - the groom, the bride, or the priest  ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Helen J on 10 August 2014, 12:37:27
I think probably the groom, closely followed by the priest.  The bride seemed remarkably calm!
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 10 August 2014, 12:49:10
Well, that's a wonderful first to have.  I'm glad the weather cooperated.  :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Randi on 10 August 2014, 12:56:27
I wonder who was more nervous - the groom, the bride, or the priest  ;D
;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Kathy on 10 August 2014, 13:07:06
I think probably the groom, closely followed by the priest.  The bride seemed remarkably calm!

 ;D ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Caro on 10 August 2014, 15:29:09
Glad to hear the wedding went well, Helen.  :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Helen J on 10 August 2014, 15:48:06
Thank you all - definitely another small landmark!  Next up - the first baptism ....
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Michael on 10 August 2014, 20:43:51
Thank you all - definitely another small landmark!  Next up - the first baptism ....

Hurrah for you, Helen!!! I am sure you are as warm and sympathetic as a priest as you are on these chat rooms! Lucky parishioners to have you in their midst.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Caro on 11 August 2014, 01:58:09
Morning all. Lovely Google doodle today.
Astonishing 'super moon' last night too!
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Hanibal94 on 11 August 2014, 02:23:35
Thank you all - definitely another small landmark!  Next up - the first baptism ....

Great job on your first wedding, Helen!

Quote
Here comes the bride,
Fair, fat and wide.
Here comes the groom,
Skinnier than a broom.
Here comes the usher,
The old toilet flusher.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Randi on 11 August 2014, 02:38:53
Thank you all - definitely another small landmark!  Next up - the first baptism ....

Hurrah for you, Helen!!! I am sure you are as warm and sympathetic as a priest as you are on these chat rooms! Lucky parishioners to have you in their midst.

Well put, Michael!
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Helen J on 11 August 2014, 06:19:13
Thank you for all your kind words - I'm sitting here blushing!

And hanibal - they actually had 'here comes the bride' as the entrance music, so I had to work quite hard not to think of various unsuitable words ....  I hadn't seen yours before though.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 11 August 2014, 12:00:34
Morning all. Lovely Google doodle today.
Astonishing 'super moon' last night too!

They should have put that doodle on everyone's search page!!!  Instead, us foreigners have to go to https://www.google.co.uk/  >:(
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: tastiger on 13 August 2014, 01:43:06
Just made my flight with less time than i am confortable with. Ill recant the journey to the airport later. 14 hours of flying/layovers here I come!!!!
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Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Caro on 13 August 2014, 02:14:55
Long haul flights eh? :P :) Bon voyage, tastiger.

Morning all. Sunshine again!
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Randi on 13 August 2014, 03:04:20
Just made my flight with less time than i am confortable with. Ill recant the journey to the airport later. 14 hours of flying/layovers here I come!!!!
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Ugh!

Hope it isn't too bad!
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Steeleye on 13 August 2014, 04:24:48
Quote
Here comes the bride,
Fair, fat and wide.
Here comes the groom,
Skinnier than a broom.
Here comes the usher,
The old toilet flusher.

...and from my long-ago chldhood:
Here comes the bride,
Thirty inches wide,
Here comes the vicar,
Forty inches thicker.


Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Dean on 13 August 2014, 07:42:28
Speaking of weddings...

I was told that to ensure Marital Bliss a gentleman needs know only 4 words - 'I do' and 'Yes Dear'   ::)  ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Michael on 13 August 2014, 12:35:33
Morning all. Sunshine again!

It's raining here, just over 10 mm in the last 12 hours. The most rain we've had since April, and it's most welcome.  :) :) :) :)

Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: tastiger on 13 August 2014, 20:25:20
Just made my flight with less time than i am confortable with. Ill recant the journey to the airport later. 14 hours of flying/layovers here I come!!!!
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Wait...

Back home finally, that was tiring (18+ hours of traveling). And about the journey to the airport, I'll sum it up with a 2 hour train trip becoming 4-5 hours I think, wrong stations, long waiting times, wrong line I think, and freaking out about my phone battery. Yuck. Anyway will be back tomorrow. :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Randi on 14 August 2014, 02:11:45
Welcome home!
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Caro on 14 August 2014, 02:26:04
Morning all.

Glad to hear you are home, tastiger.  :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Craig on 14 August 2014, 09:41:10
Is OW down? I saved a page and nothing happened for a while then the screen went blank except for the URL. It hasn't responded for more than 5 minutes.

There it is. I just refreshed the screen and got the next page.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Caro on 14 August 2014, 11:26:42
I believe the techies have been fixing the problem with repeating pages.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Tegwen on 14 August 2014, 11:42:23
Like Tastiger I too am "home."

I got back last night after a brief but fascinating holiday in Ethiopia. I can recommend it, even in the rainy season!!

Our only transport problem was due to a washed away bridge.

Now must press on to finish that additional bit of editing of HMS Mantis' history!!

K
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Caro on 14 August 2014, 12:09:49
Welcome home, Keith.
Glad to hear you enjoyed your Ethiopian adventure.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: tastiger on 14 August 2014, 21:26:06
Did anyone else hear that the internet is supposed to be crummy for everyone for the next couple of weeks? Is Old Weather going to be affected?

Welcome home!
Morning all.

Glad to hear you are home, tastiger.  :)

Thanks everyone! :D
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Maikel on 15 August 2014, 02:32:46
Yes, I did.
A technical article on the subject: http://arstechnica.com/security/2014/08/internet-routers-hitting-512k-limit-some-become-unreliable/ (http://arstechnica.com/security/2014/08/internet-routers-hitting-512k-limit-some-become-unreliable/)

As it's the routers involved, there's no way of predicting who or which sites will be affected.
Most probably it will be different every time it happens.

E.g. last Tuesday it seems Europeans couldn't reach the Naval History website, whilst Australians had no problems at all.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Helen J on 15 August 2014, 12:50:38
A part of WW1 history I certainly knew nothing about ....

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/aug/14/first-world-war-forgotten-chinese-labour-corps-memorial

Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Randi on 15 August 2014, 13:54:51
I had never heard of that either.
Far too late for most - especially those who died en-route - but I'm happy to see it finally recognized.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Thursday Next on 15 August 2014, 14:32:48
The Chinese labour force did receive a passing mention in the first part of "The World's War: Forgotten Soldiers of Empire" on BBC2 last week.  I have recorded the second part but haven't watched it yet - maybe there will be more coverage.  With the recent centenary of the war in the UK we have been rather swamped with WW1 documentaries, most of which have been interesting and moving, but I haven't really learned much I did not already know - most of us on this Forum are bound to be better informed on this subject than average.  But this documentary was one of the best I have seen so far - it brought out many things that I did not know, or had not really thought about.  It did not focus exclusively on soldiers from the British Empire and included the French colonial forces as well.

Edit: The second documentary did indeed include more on the Chinese Labour Corps.  Clearly using the same sources as the Guardian article there is not much additional information on this particular topic, although they had some archive film.  Again, I learned a lot from this programme.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Hanibal94 on 16 August 2014, 11:38:54
Something on WW1 that I found very interesting:

Interactive episode puts viewer in role of a British corporal at the Somme (http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-28793435)

(The actual episode has violent content, so I didn't post a direct link - click on 'Our World War' in the text and look for 'Interactive Episode')
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Craig on 19 August 2014, 08:30:07
Is anyone else finding the OW response very slow today? It takes between 30 seconds and a minute to get a new page.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Danny252 on 19 August 2014, 15:54:20
Bit of a late reply, but no problems for me this evening.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Craig on 19 August 2014, 16:57:45
It got back to normal about an hour after I posted. They could have been doing maintenance or something.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Dean on 19 August 2014, 19:01:30
This came from a friend. It was part of a much longer series of old photos but I thought it may be of some use to our Group. I have no way to verify it's authenticity except it 'looks good.'

The title stated: A boxing match on board the USS Oregon in 1897
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Michael on 19 August 2014, 19:29:08
It got back to normal about an hour after I posted. They could have been doing maintenance or something.
I was hoping this was a sign that they had fixed the problem of being sent back to pages already done. No such luck, I just checked and I'm still sent back to 01 July 1898 instead of 02 Aug 1898 on the Concord. So, the Patterson crew have a volunteer for a while. Having fun learning to read writing from a totally different hand.  :'(
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Craig on 20 August 2014, 06:03:47
Nice to have some variety sometimes.

I heard the "best" joke from the Edinburgh festival -  "They got rid of their Hoover because it was just collecting dust".
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Randi on 20 August 2014, 06:56:48
 ;D



How about the sign that says:

You don't have to be crazy to work here, but it helps.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Craig on 20 August 2014, 07:45:14
 ;D  That certainly applies to us!
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Danny252 on 20 August 2014, 09:46:40
It got back to normal about an hour after I posted. They could have been doing maintenance or something.
I was hoping this was a sign that they had fixed the problem of being sent back to pages already done. No such luck, I just checked and I'm still sent back to 01 July 1898 instead of 02 Aug 1898 on the Concord. So, the Patterson crew have a volunteer for a while. Having fun learning to read writing from a totally different hand.  :'(

Are you being sent back repeatedly? The advice was to just skip pages, and I've not heard anyone say that they got sent back again after the first set of issues.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Michael on 20 August 2014, 10:13:23
It got back to normal about an hour after I posted. They could have been doing maintenance or something.
I was hoping this was a sign that they had fixed the problem of being sent back to pages already done. No such luck, I just checked and I'm still sent back to 01 July 1898 instead of 02 Aug 1898 on the Concord. So, the Patterson crew have a volunteer for a while. Having fun learning to read writing from a totally different hand.  :'(

Are you being sent back repeatedly? The advice was to just skip pages, and I've not heard anyone say that they got sent back again after the first set of issues.
I haven't skipped pages for two reasons:

Eventually Stuart will be back, and I'll know for sure where he is in the logs, and if the situation hasn't been resolved by then, I'll skip the pages at that time. In the meantime, I'll work on the Patterson.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Randi on 20 August 2014, 10:34:29
Sounds good ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Dean on 20 August 2014, 14:06:34
;D



How about the sign that says:

You don't have to be crazy to work here, but it helps.

Restaurant near us has the sign: "You don't have to be crazy to work here, we'll train you!"
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Craig on 20 August 2014, 19:40:42
I take it you didn't apply, Dean?  ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 20 August 2014, 21:13:05
Why do you think he (or any of us) need the training? ::) ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Kathy on 20 August 2014, 21:53:32
I have had an interesting evening - the author of In the Kingdom of Ice, Hampton Sides was at a bookstore in Washington, DC (Politics and Prose) on his book tour.  Went down to hear him speak - he was very enjoyable.  He gave a shout-out to Old Weather.  I recommend the book - I got there way early - allowed too much time for traffic  ;D - so had a chance to browse the book.  Mark Mollan, our National Archives person was there as well, and who also gave us a mention.  I told Mr. Sides about the edited log going up today - he was quite interested in see it.  The talk is available on the CSPAN web site.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 20 August 2014, 23:59:45
They have 2 presentations by him on CSPAN:

AUGUST 20, 2014
Book Discussion on In the Kingdom of Ice (http://www.c-span.org/video/?320996-1/book-discussion-kingdom-ice)
Hampton Sides talked about his book, In the Kingdom of Ice: The Grand and Terrible Polar Voyage of the USS Jeannette, in which he recounts the U.S. naval expedition to the North Pole in 1879. The journey, financed by New York Herald owner James Gordon Bennett, and led by Officer George Washington De Long, began in San Francisco on July 8, 1879. The 32-man crew aboard the USS Jeannette sailed for two years before a breach of the ship?s hull left them abandoned 1,000 miles north of Siberia, and forced them to trek back to civilization.

also MAY 30, 2014
Book Discussion on In the Kingdom of Ice (http://www.c-span.org/video/?319870-10/book-discussion-kingdom-ice)
Hampton Sides talked about his book, In the Kingdom of Ice: The Grand and Terrible Polar Voyage of the USS Jeannette.  The interview took place at the 2014 BookExpo America, the publishing industry?s annual trade show, held at the Jacob K. Javits Convention Center in New York City.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Randi on 21 August 2014, 02:16:45
Good work, Kathy!
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Dean on 21 August 2014, 07:18:46
;D



How about the sign that says:

You don't have to be crazy to work here, but it helps.

Restaurant near us has the sign: "You don't have to be crazy to work here, we'll train you!"
I take it you didn't apply, Dean?  ;D
Why do you think he (or any of us) need the training? ::) ;D

I keep telling people - How would you normal people know you were normal if it weren't for the rest of us??!!   ;) 8)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Craig on 21 August 2014, 07:31:45
Why do you think he (or any of us) need the training? ::) ;D

He or we might want to experience a different type of craziness for a change.  ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Hanibal94 on 21 August 2014, 12:01:56
And I thought I was the craziest person around here!
I have Asperger's Syndrome (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/UsefulNotes/AspergerSyndrome), so I got a whole bunch of quirks and oddities, both good ones and bad ones!
Plus, there's my strong fondness of colorful cartoon ponies - something that may be a little too strong... (http://forum.oldweather.org/index.php?topic=4013.msg88437#msg88437)

Is there anybody amongst us who can out-crazy THAT?
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 21 August 2014, 12:09:00
Won't even try.  :D

(http://images.clipartpanda.com/jaguar-clip-art-eTM5R7ATn.jpeg)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Randi on 21 August 2014, 14:01:34
And I thought I was the craziest person around here!
I have Asperger's Syndrome (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/UsefulNotes/AspergerSyndrome), so I got a whole bunch of quirks and oddities, both good ones and bad ones!
Plus, there's my strong fondness of colorful cartoon ponies - something that may be a little too strong... (http://forum.oldweather.org/index.php?topic=4013.msg88437#msg88437)

Is there anybody amongst us who can out-crazy THAT?

Becoming a moderator? ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Dean on 22 August 2014, 13:48:19
And I thought I was the craziest person around here!
I have Asperger's Syndrome (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/UsefulNotes/AspergerSyndrome), so I got a whole bunch of quirks and oddities, both good ones and bad ones!
Plus, there's my strong fondness of colorful cartoon ponies - something that may be a little too strong... (http://forum.oldweather.org/index.php?topic=4013.msg88437#msg88437)

Is there anybody amongst us who can out-crazy THAT?

Becoming a moderator? ;D

SOMEBODY has to monitor us crazies!!!!!! ;) Or as one of my favorite Principals used to say 'It's tough to run the Circus from inside the Third Ring'
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 25 August 2014, 00:31:57
Don't expect anything from me till mid Sept. Having to much fun on the cruise of the Aegir.
Stuart.

It got back to normal about an hour after I posted. They could have been doing maintenance or something.
I was hoping this was a sign that they had fixed the problem of being sent back to pages already done. No such luck, I just checked and I'm still sent back to 01 July 1898 instead of 02 Aug 1898 on the Concord. So, the Patterson crew have a volunteer for a while. Having fun learning to read writing from a totally different hand.  :'(

Are you being sent back repeatedly? The advice was to just skip pages, and I've not heard anyone say that they got sent back again after the first set of issues.
I haven't skipped pages for two reasons:
  • I'm afraid that Stuart stopped when he did 30 June - I asked him to go that far before he left on his trip because I wanted to update the crew lists to the end of June. I worry that if I skip pages, I will be skipping pages that Stuart needs to do, and those pages will end up not being done; and,
  • I'll be skipping 62 pages, which is quite a number to be skipped. I thought it was just safer to go to another ship until the problem was sorted out.

Eventually Stuart will be back, and I'll know for sure where he is in the logs, and if the situation hasn't been resolved by then, I'll skip the pages at that time. In the meantime, I'll work on the Patterson.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Caro on 25 August 2014, 03:41:58
Good morning OW and bon voyage Stuart!
Typical 'bank holiday Monday' weather here: we have a yellow weather warning for rain.  :P
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Craig on 25 August 2014, 07:10:35
OW is very slow this morning. Up to 30 seconds to refresh a page.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: studentforever on 25 August 2014, 11:33:23
No public holiday in Scotland so weather fine & sunny but windy!!
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Michael on 25 August 2014, 19:32:40
The hitch-hiking robot Hitchbot arrived in Victoria a few days ago. Here is a radio interview on CBC (Canadian Broadcasting Corp.)  with the robot:
Interview with Hitchbot (https://soundcloud.com/cbcvictoria/a-chat-with-hitchbot)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 26 August 2014, 07:16:21
What a very cool national experiment.  I'm glad she arrived safely.  :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Craig on 26 August 2014, 07:29:59
I heard the interview the other day. She's as evasive as a politician.  ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Michael on 26 August 2014, 18:54:19
It seems OW has just died. I "Finished with this page" and the page disappeared and I got the top two inches or so of the next page, and nothing more. The little spinning circle has been going round and round for over two minutes now...    :'(
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Craig on 26 August 2014, 19:25:42
Try refreshing the screen. OW is still functioning for me.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Michael on 26 August 2014, 19:28:24
Hmmmm. The last time I tried that, I lost all my work. However, brave person that I am, I clicked on "I'm finished with this page" again, and away it went, and there it is in "My Pages." My garden is happy, though; while waiting I went out and gave it a good drink.  :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Caro on 27 August 2014, 02:28:16
Greetings all.
My garden needs no more water after yesterday's rain rain rain.
Dry today, allegedly.

Got to love that Hitchbot. :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Craig on 27 August 2014, 05:40:41
I was lulled into complacency with all the rain we had recently to such an extent that I forgot to water after a few days of sunshine. I have this one very productive zucchini that has provided for us all summer. It has huge leaves and needs a lot of water to maintain it. So when I checked most of the leaves had dropped to the ground and were begging for water. I watered it abundantly but  the drooped leaves didn't recover. There are still a couple of zucchinis growing on it but I am afraid this might be the end for this season.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Michael on 27 August 2014, 12:18:15
For us in Victoria, it's the seventh driest summer comparing records for the period 1941-2010. (Haven't been bothered to download the data for years past 2010 yet.) We've had 63 mm since 1 May and half of that was in May itself, the average is 107 mm, and in 1948 we had 248. In 2003, only 41.6. Watering has been essential.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Craig on 28 August 2014, 07:45:03
OW is so slow this AM that I have time to record the date and location before the page is completely visible on the screen. I can't drag to make a box during this interval but if I just click on the topic I get the default size box. I also have time for a sip of tea  ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 28 August 2014, 09:02:16
'OW is slow this AM'
I would hazard a guess that most OW'rs are also slow in the AM.
 ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Craig on 28 August 2014, 09:21:18

Quite so, Stuart.   Even with that handicap I can still finish the date and location before the page finishes displaying.  ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Thursday Next on 28 August 2014, 15:11:55
I am just reeling from shock! Apparently Hello Kitty is not a cat!   :o :o :o 
http://www.bbc.co.uk/newsbeat/28963085
I shall need to lie down in a darkened room for quite some time.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Michael on 28 August 2014, 15:17:01
I like the personal touch!   :)

Nice nails! (http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USCS%20Patterson/Book%203/IMG_5173_0.jpg)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Michael on 28 August 2014, 16:18:24
I like the personal touch!   :)

Nice nails! (http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USCS%20Patterson/Book%203/IMG_5173_0.jpg)

Which made me remember...

somewhere i have never travelled,gladly beyond
any experience,your eyes have their silence:
in your most frail gesture are things which enclose me,
or which i cannot touch because they are too near

your slightest look easily will unclose me
though i have closed myself as fingers,
you open always petal by petal myself as Spring opens
(touching skilfully,mysteriously)her first rose

or if your wish be to close me,i and
my life will shut very beautifully,suddenly,
as when the heart of this flower imagines
the snow carefully everywhere descending;

nothing which we are to perceive in this world equals
the power of your intense fragility:whose texture
compels me with the colour of its countries,
rendering death and forever with each breathing

(i do not know what it is about you that closes
and opens;only something in me understands
the voice of your eyes is deeper than all roses)
nobody,not even the rain,has such small hands

e. e. cummings
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Caro on 28 August 2014, 17:01:53
Which made me remember ...

all by all and deep by deep
and more by more they dream their sleep
noone and anyone earth by april
wish by spirit and if by yes.

Women and men (both dong and ding)
summer autumn winter spring
reaped their sowing and went their came
sun moon stars rain

 :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Helen J on 29 August 2014, 07:23:53
Thank you both - I really enjoyed coming across this poetry unexpectedly. 
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Kathy on 29 August 2014, 08:41:03
me too - I really like e.e. cummings
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Craig on 29 August 2014, 12:41:24
Yes, he was a lower-case sort of guy but a capital poet for all that.   :D
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Michael on 29 August 2014, 12:54:59
Fifty reasons I like to help my sister work in her garden...    ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Craig on 29 August 2014, 13:20:50
You're lucky, Michael. Tomatoes are not ripening in our area because of the cool summer we had.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Craig on 31 August 2014, 05:28:25
OW is very slow for me this AM.

So it was my wireless modem after all. The likely cause is interference from electronic devices in my neighbourhood. Apparently channel 11 on my modem is less susceptible to interference because most devices don't use that channel. But microwaves could still be a problem. I may go back to wired if it happens again.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Thursday Next on 31 August 2014, 14:43:16
That's interesting to know, Craig - I am still wired but had wondered if there were benefits to switching to wireless.  Maybe the opposite!
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Danny252 on 31 August 2014, 14:54:35
In the vast majority of cases, a wired connection will be better quality than a wireless one (bad quality or excessively long wires being the main causes of bad wired connections). Of course, wireless has the advantage that you can be wherever you want!
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Craig on 31 August 2014, 17:02:27
In my case it was to remove the wires that were dangling from the basement ceiling. Unfortunately, I never anticipated putting in cables in my house 30 years ago when we finished the basement- at least, not where I want them now.  But the funny thing is that the signal has been strong for about a month now, since I put in the wireless cards into my desktops. It's only in the last week that it has given me trouble. I made a adjustment to where the computer and modem are situated and this appears to have solved the problem for now, at least for my new computer. The old Presario doesn't get a strong signal but it's so slow doing BOINC that it hardly ever needs to connect to the Internet.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Michael on 31 August 2014, 19:43:10
In my case it was to remove the wires that were dangling from the basement ceiling. Unfortunately, I never anticipated putting in cables in my house 30 years ago when we finished the basement- at least, not where I want them now.  But the funny thing is that the signal has been strong for about a month now, since I put in the wireless cards into my desktops. It's only in the last week that it has given me trouble. I made a adjustment to where the computer and modem are situated and this appears to have solved the problem for now, at least for my new computer. The old Presario doesn't get a strong signal but it's so slow doing BOINC that it hardly ever needs to connect to the Internet.
Although my main PC is wired in to the router, I have a second wireless router downstairs. It picks up and relays the signal so I get a strong signal everywhere. Without it, my downstairs PC would be deaf and blind, so to speak. You try a solution like that...
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Dean on 31 August 2014, 19:56:30
OW is very slow for me this AM.

So it was my wireless modem after all. The likely cause is interference from electronic devices in my neighbourhood. Apparently channel 11 on my modem is less susceptible to interference because most devices don't use that channel. But microwaves could still be a problem. I may go back to wired if it happens again.

In my case it was to remove the wires that were dangling from the basement ceiling. Unfortunately, I never anticipated putting in cables in my house 30 years ago when we finished the basement- at least, not where I want them now.  But the funny thing is that the signal has been strong for about a month now, since I put in the wireless cards into my desktops. It's only in the last week that it has given me trouble. I made a adjustment to where the computer and modem are situated and this appears to have solved the problem for now, at least for my new computer. The old Presario doesn't get a strong signal but it's so slow doing BOINC that it hardly ever needs to connect to the Internet.
Although my main PC is wired in to the router, I have a second wireless router downstairs. It picks up and relays the signal so I get a strong signal everywhere. Without it, my downstairs PC would be deaf and blind, so to speak. You try a solution like that...

Sometimes just the placement of the router makes a difference. Moving it even a little may solve the problem. My main Mac is 'hard wired' to the router & DSL modem with the wireless router next to it so my wife can wander the house with her PC laptop.  I've also found it helpful every month or so to depower and then repower the wireless router to let it 'reset.'

Good luck!! Hope you can solve the issues.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: sean0118 on 31 August 2014, 22:00:51
Hi everyone  :D
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 31 August 2014, 22:39:39
Hi, Sean :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Randi on 01 September 2014, 04:21:09
Good to have you back, Sean!
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Caro on 01 September 2014, 06:55:02
Hi there Sean. :)

Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: AvastMH on 03 September 2014, 05:16:45
Ahoy there me hearties!
Back on duty and happily at home now (probably for some time ::)). Ended up in hospital having run my batteries to zero (not wise :(). The recharge worked very well and much faster than the Doctors thought when I first got there. The hospital was excellent, and as one of the more alert customers I had some very entertaining times with the nurses.
It's really nice to be back amongst the OW crew. :D :D
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Caro on 03 September 2014, 06:05:12
Welcome back Joan!
So glad to hear you are home, taking it easy.
Continue to take it easy. That is an order.  ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Craig on 03 September 2014, 06:41:06
I'm glad you are feeling better, Joan!
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Randi on 03 September 2014, 07:34:14
Good to have you back!
Now, take care of yourself!
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Dean on 03 September 2014, 07:46:26
Sit back, have a warm cuppa,   AND TAKE CARE OF YOURSELF!!!!!   ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: studentforever on 03 September 2014, 07:54:57
Good to see you back. Nothing like your own bed however nice the nurses.  Mind you, I missed the early morning cuppa in bed I got during convalescence.  Take it easy, do what you enjoy and look forward to the rest of life.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 03 September 2014, 08:24:39
Glad your up and at'em.
Good job we did not stay as Janeece picked up a bug on the cruise.  %^(
Stuart.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Randi on 03 September 2014, 08:40:52
Sorry to hear that, Stuart.
I hope you enjoyed the first part of the cruise.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 03 September 2014, 09:20:20
Welcome back, Joan.  I'm glad you are feeling better.  :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: propriome on 03 September 2014, 09:37:48
Welcome back Joan!  :) :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: jil on 03 September 2014, 10:20:20
Joan, Co & speed as reqte for getting better!
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Hanibal94 on 03 September 2014, 11:49:27
Nice to see you're back, Joan!

Gotta admit, I had noticed your absence by this point and was beginning to wonder where you'd gone...
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Kathy on 03 September 2014, 11:51:51
Take care Joan - just be sure to keep up your finger exercises  ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Thursday Next on 03 September 2014, 12:25:59
Welcome back, Joan!  You've been missed!
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Helen J on 03 September 2014, 12:28:33
Welcome back Joan, glad they've let you out.  Nothing like home for proper convalescence.  Look after yourself, and don't overdo it ....
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Maikel on 03 September 2014, 13:26:57
Hi Joan, see above. ;D :P
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Michael on 03 September 2014, 13:34:20
Glad you're back on board, Joan. I, too, wondered where you'd been.  How could your batteries run down if you're burning candles at both ends???  ;D

I'm so happy they've fixed you up and got you back behind the tiller. Remember the tortoise and the hare.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Thursday Next on 04 September 2014, 16:18:53
The font for the Forum looks just a little different this evening  ??? has something been changed?  Or is it my browser?  Or, worse still, is it my eyesight?  Or am I just losing my marbles?
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Caro on 04 September 2014, 16:30:12
Nothing has been changed that I know of. 
The font looks the same to me. Doesn't it? Yes. No?  ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Dean on 04 September 2014, 16:32:19
Looks the same to me!  :D  But then I'm one of those 'bleary eyed Transcriber/Editors who has spent way too much time squinting at old logs (and likely will KEEP ON squinting for a long time to come!! 8) )
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 04 September 2014, 17:19:20
It looks the same to me too.  Maybe your display change default font?
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: AvastMH on 04 September 2014, 18:12:19
Hi folks -had a busy day today so a bit late logging in. THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU for all your kind words. They are very much appreciated. I really missed you all whilst I was away. Tried getting on-line via my tiddly mobile phone but no luck.  It's good to be back in the OW harbour.
xxx
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: tastiger on 04 September 2014, 18:35:01
The font for the Forum looks just a little different this evening  ??? has something been changed?  Or is it my browser?  Or, worse still, is it my eyesight?  Or am I just losing my marbles?
I know it can change when I try using my smartphone (but then the forum just disappears on it somehow), so are you using two devices?
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Randi on 05 September 2014, 02:18:23
Hi folks -had a busy day today so a bit late logging in. THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU for all your kind words. They are very much appreciated. I really missed you all whilst I was away. Tried getting on-line via my tiddly mobile phone but no luck.  It's good to be back in the OW harbour.
xxx
You are not supposed to be having busy days when you are just out of the hospital!!!
 :-*
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: studentforever on 05 September 2014, 05:15:46
Joan, having just come out of hospital myself the motto is 'listen to your body'. Believe me, and this is my second time in for elective surgery this year, if you don't you are asking for trouble.  Glad you are home and at least thinking about doing things but you are the most important thing. After all if you end up back in hospital then you won't be able to do them anyway. We'll look forward to your occasional input and be duly grateful for anything you manage to complete.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Thursday Next on 05 September 2014, 11:46:42
The font for the Forum looks just a little different this evening  ??? has something been changed?  Or is it my browser?  Or, worse still, is it my eyesight?  Or am I just losing my marbles?
I know it can change when I try using my smartphone (but then the forum just disappears on it somehow), so are you using two devices?

No, I'm not using two devices.  I've worked out what it is, though - it is just a tad smaller.  It has definitely changed from what it was a couple of days ago and I haven't knowingly altered any settings anywhere myself. 
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Caro on 05 September 2014, 11:51:08
Did you inadvertently hold down Ctrl and spin your mouse wheel?  ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Thursday Next on 05 September 2014, 11:58:14
 ;D It's not the sort of thing I'd remember doing!  But anything's possible - I am very ham-fisted when I am tired.  Nothing else is affected, just the Forum.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Caro on 05 September 2014, 12:04:21
Try Ctrl+mouse wheel spin until you get the size of font you like.  ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Thursday Next on 05 September 2014, 12:18:37
Well, I've tried that now - but it didn't account for the change.  Just a single "step" on the wheel makes it much bigger than it was before, so that can't be what happened.  Also doing that with the mouse wheel changes the zoom control - this has happened with the zoom control at default.  It doesn't really matter - it's just mildly disconcerting!
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Caro on 05 September 2014, 12:31:46
OK. :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Hanibal94 on 05 September 2014, 15:50:52
I think the font changed for me as well. It happened last week on Wednesday (the 27th of August).
What browser do you use? I have Chrome, which was updated on the 26th - and that update includes "DirectWrite support on Windows for improved font rendering", so maybe that was what changed it.

Oh, and I once used a school computer with a very old version of Firefox to check the OW forum, and I noticed the font looked very different - especially some of the fancier ones Randi uses for announcing achievements in the Dockyard.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Randi on 05 September 2014, 15:51:56
I haven't noticed anything and I use Firefox.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: propriome on 05 September 2014, 16:56:45
Same here, FF 32.0
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Helen J on 06 September 2014, 10:49:53
Here's an interesting interactive guide to climate change, from the Guardian.

http://www.theguardian.com/environment/interactive/2011/aug/15/everything-know-climate-change?CMP=twt_gu

Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 06 September 2014, 11:54:38
That's about the best organized layout I've ever seen.  :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Thursday Next on 06 September 2014, 15:20:09
I think the font changed for me as well. It happened last week on Wednesday (the 27th of August).
What browser do you use? I have Chrome, which was updated on the 26th - and that update includes "DirectWrite support on Windows for improved font rendering", so maybe that was what changed it.

Oh, and I once used a school computer with a very old version of Firefox to check the OW forum, and I noticed the font looked very different - especially some of the fancier ones Randi uses for announcing achievements in the Dockyard.

Yes, I have Chrome as well, so maybe that explains it.  I didn't notice the change as early as last week, but that doesn't mean it wasn't there.  Thanks for that, I now feel slightly less insane!
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 06 September 2014, 16:25:15
I use Chrome, and the only time I saw a shift was when I was starting from scratch with my rebuilt hard drive.  Everything was decidedly small until I noticed it was running at 80% zoom - reset it at 100% fixed it.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Hanibal94 on 06 September 2014, 16:38:25
Yes, I have Chrome as well, so maybe that explains it.  I didn't notice the change as early as last week, but that doesn't mean it wasn't there.  Thanks for that, I now feel slightly less insane!

No problem at all. As a student of Computer Science, I enjoy searching for solutions to these kinds of problems - gives me a chance to practice skills that will come in handy later for my career.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 06 September 2014, 16:56:56
Very glad to have you on board for all of us non-geeks.  :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: tastiger on 06 September 2014, 19:19:02
Very glad to have you on board for all of us non-geeks.  :)

And geek(s) who don't know much about computer and occasionally forgets how much +'s there are in C++ but still a geek on other things. :D
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Thursday Next on 07 September 2014, 14:27:16
Yes, I have Chrome as well, so maybe that explains it.  I didn't notice the change as early as last week, but that doesn't mean it wasn't there.  Thanks for that, I now feel slightly less insane!

No problem at all. As a student of Computer Science, I enjoy searching for solutions to these kinds of problems - gives me a chance to practice skills that will come in handy later for my career.

As added confirmation, I have just tried opening the Forum in both Chrome and Firefox side-by-side - in Firefox it looked the same as it always used to.  :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Dean on 08 September 2014, 08:03:39
Yes, I have Chrome as well, so maybe that explains it.  I didn't notice the change as early as last week, but that doesn't mean it wasn't there.  Thanks for that, I now feel slightly less insane!

No problem at all. As a student of Computer Science, I enjoy searching for solutions to these kinds of problems - gives me a chance to practice skills that will come in handy later for my career.

As added confirmation, I have just tried opening the Forum in both Chrome and Firefox side-by-side - in Firefox it looked the same as it always used to.  :)

I'm using Safari on a Mac and haven't seen any changes.  :D
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Caro on 11 September 2014, 09:18:41
Hello szukacz! Long time no see.  :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: szukacz on 11 September 2014, 09:20:05
 ;D Hi Caro Hi all 
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Kathy on 11 September 2014, 10:21:32
HI Szukacz!  How are you?  ;D  :-*
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 11 September 2014, 12:32:22
Hi, Szukacz, great to see you around!! ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Randi on 11 September 2014, 13:41:49
Hi, Szukacz, sorry I missed you!
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: JamesAPrattIII on 11 September 2014, 15:34:19
Since some of the ships we are doing the logs of are involved in artic exploration. I would everyone to know that one of the ships of the Franklin expedition in the artic has been found. Perhaps we can find out a little more about the ships fate since there were no survivors. I hope this is of some interest.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Randi on 11 September 2014, 16:07:39
Caro noted it: http://forum.oldweather.org/index.php?topic=23.msg94148#msg94148
"One of Franklin's ships found: http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/lost-franklin-expedition-ship-found-in-the-arctic-1.2760311"
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 12 September 2014, 22:24:58
Wow, what ever ship it is it's in good nick.
I hope they can positively identify it as it will solve some mystery.

I hope the Captain of my next years cruise to the North West Passage will sail over the spot.

Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 14 September 2014, 09:20:47
Happy Birthday, Randi!!!
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Randi on 14 September 2014, 09:35:07
Thanks, Janet!
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Craig on 14 September 2014, 09:46:02
Bonne Fete, Randi!
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: tastiger on 14 September 2014, 09:55:12
Thanks, Janet!

Happy birthday! :D
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Hanibal94 on 14 September 2014, 09:55:31
Happy Birthday to you,
Schokolade im Schuh,
Aprikose in die Hose,
Happy Birthday to you!


(http://www.cake-decorating-corner.com/images/pirate-ship-cake-21220712.jpg)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Randi on 14 September 2014, 10:03:07
Thanks, Craig, tastiger, and Hanibal94 (yummy)!
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Caro on 14 September 2014, 10:16:21
(http://lh6.ggpht.com/-Dzub1cjo2yo/VBWlk1FxjrI/AAAAAAAAQVs/7Oj14CCIMcM/690088.gif) (http://www.lunapic.com/editor)

 :-* ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Michael on 14 September 2014, 10:19:03
Happy Birthday, Randi!!!
and Best Wishes for many, many more!!!
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Danny252 on 14 September 2014, 10:23:08
Congratulations on completing another orbit of the Sun - hopefully you'll manage a few more yet!
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: AvastMH on 14 September 2014, 10:37:34
Have a truly happy and wonderful day Randi!

(http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/661/m5417u.jpg) (https://imageshack.com/i/idm5417uj)

Joan xx  :-* :-*

(PS - firefox misbehaving so can't make this fun x font - quel domage!)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Helen J on 14 September 2014, 10:43:21
Happy birthday, Randi!  I hope you're going to take a little time off to celebrate?
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: jil on 14 September 2014, 12:20:54
Happy Birthday, Randi!
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Kathy on 14 September 2014, 12:49:06
To Randi on her 111th Birthday

Happy Birthday to our dear friend, Randi,
Whom we all think is really quite dandy.
Without further ado,
Our hope here for you,
Is that all your wishes come true!
 :-* ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Randi on 14 September 2014, 13:13:32
Thank you: Caro, Michael, Danny, Joan (good to see you!), Helen, jil, and Kathy!
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Thursday Next on 14 September 2014, 14:48:41
Happy Birthday, Randi!
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Randi on 14 September 2014, 15:12:34
Thank you, Su ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 14 September 2014, 17:08:28
Happy Birthday, etc, etc.
 ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: szukacz on 14 September 2014, 17:41:53
My friend ... feet of water under the keel ...
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Randi on 15 September 2014, 03:00:38
Thanks Stuart and szukacz!
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Dean on 16 September 2014, 02:19:39
Randi

   Happy Birthday to you,
   Happy Birthday to you,
   Happy Birthday dear Raaaaaaaaaaannnnnnnnnnnndddddddddddddiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii,
   Happy Birthday to you!

Hope it's a happy one and that you get lots of neat presents!
Hope also you get to share with family!
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Randi on 16 September 2014, 06:02:54
Thanks, Dean!
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: propriome on 16 September 2014, 08:17:28
Happy birthday Randi!!!  :) :) :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Randi on 16 September 2014, 09:09:37
Thanks, Matteo! :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Hanibal94 on 16 September 2014, 14:37:14
Something hilarious I heard about today:

(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-cXATFIOuYiM/VBbKgtV9PDI/AAAAAAACAzE/tmu_BVzXocc/s1600/10665871_10152757264598760_1482306940897293175_n.jpg)

Quote
Over on the Cincinnati Reds  Major League Baseball team, they run a "Rookie Dress Up Day" where players dress up as the girliest thing they can find.  The above image is the result.  I don't know if Rainbow Dash is the best choice for girliest, but that is totally a pro baseball player dressed up as a rainbow maned cartoon horse.

You can find it over on their Facebook page, 1.1 million followers and all!
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Kathy on 16 September 2014, 15:20:01
 ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Randi on 16 September 2014, 15:37:06
I'd say he and the guy next to him did a far better job that the three on the right!
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 16 September 2014, 19:07:35
I love that.  :)

Attached picture came to me from my stepbrother.

Select the following line to see the answer.
Look at the picture upside down.  :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Randi on 18 September 2014, 07:28:46
Artificial sweeteners may tip scales toward metabolic problems (https://www.sciencenews.org/article/artificial-sweeteners-may-tip-scales-toward-metabolic-problems)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Craig on 18 September 2014, 09:50:36
Quote
And when seven healthy volunteers ate the Food and Drug Administration?s maximum acceptable daily dose of saccharin for a week, four of them developed off-kilter glucose metabolism . Transferring feces from these four people into mice induced the same problems in the rodents, suggesting that gut microbes were to blame.

This is disturbing, Randi. However, I read in today's paper that the 7 people in the above group took for each day of the study the equivalent amount of saccharin in 40 cans of soft drinks.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 18 September 2014, 13:21:58
Quote
And when seven healthy volunteers ate the Food and Drug Administration?s maximum acceptable daily dose of saccharin for a week, four of them developed off-kilter glucose metabolism . Transferring feces from these four people into mice induced the same problems in the rodents, suggesting that gut microbes were to blame.

This is disturbing, Randi. However, I read in today's paper that the 7 people in the above group took for each day of the study the equivalent amount of saccharin in 40 cans of soft drinks.

With such small studies, they often put them at or over the outer edge of real-life possible consumption.  If nothing interesting turns up in that high stress situation, the question "Is this safe?" is considered answered "yes".  If something alarming like this turns up, we need to both do much more realistic tests and seriously question the FDA's guideline maximums - those for sure have been proven defective. 

I personally find the only way to feel healthy regarding sweets is to try to eliminate all processed sweeteners - white sugar, corn syrup and saccharin all count in the category for me - outside of a few deserts every week.  (Gotta have sweets sometimes or I'd go crazy.)  Very hard to do with processed foods in a modern supermarket.  I'm glad I like the taste of honey.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Helen J on 18 September 2014, 15:50:08
For anyone in the UK - on R4s BBC Inside Science they've just trailed something about the Penguin Project ....  Ought to be available later too.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 18 September 2014, 17:55:26
Cool.  :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Hanibal94 on 19 September 2014, 14:04:11
The 2014 Ig Noble Prizes, given for achievements that first make you laugh and them make you think, have just been announced.
Here are the winners:


PHYSICS: Kiyoshi Mabuchi, of Kitasato University, Japan, and colleagues, for measuring the amount of friction between a shoe and a banana skin, and between a banana skin and the floor, when a person steps on a banana skin that's on the floor.

NEUROSCIENCE: Kang Lee, of the University of Toronto, Canada, and colleagues for trying to understand what happens in the brains of people who see the face of Jesus in a piece of toast.

PSYCHOLOGY: Peter Jonason, of the University of Western Sydney, Australia, and colleagues for amassing evidence that people who habitually stay up late are, on average, more self-admiring, more manipulative, and more psychopathic than people who habitually arise early in the morning.

PUBLIC HEALTH: Jaroslav Flegr, of Charles University, Czech Republic, and colleagues for investigating whether it is mentally hazardous for a human being to own a cat.

BIOLOGY: Vlastimil Hart, of the Czech University of Life Sciences, and colleagues for carefully documenting that when dogs defecate and urinate, they prefer to align their body axis with Earth's north-south geomagnetic field lines.

ART: Marina de Tommaso, of the University of Bari, Italy, and colleagues for measuring the relative pain people suffer while looking at an ugly painting, rather than a pretty painting, while being shot [in the hand] by a powerful laser beam.

ECONOMICS: The Italian government's National Institute of Statistics, for proudly taking the lead in fulfilling the European Union mandate for each country to increase the official size of its national economy by including revenues from prostitution, illegal drug sales, smuggling, and all other unlawful financial transactions between willing participants.

MEDICINE: Ian Humphreys, of Michigan State University, US, and colleagues, for treating "uncontrollable" nosebleeds, using the method of nasal-packing-with-strips-of-cured-pork.

ARCTIC SCIENCE: Eigil Reimers, of the University of Oslo, Norway, and colleagues, for testing how reindeer react to seeing humans who are disguised as polar bears.

NUTRITION: Raquel Rubio, of IRTA, Spain, and colleagues, for their study titled "Characterization of Lactic Acid Bacteria Isolated from Infant Faeces as Potential Probiotic Starter Cultures for Fermented Sausages."
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: AvastMH on 19 September 2014, 14:56:24
Whew Hanibal....'PUBLIC HEALTH: Jaroslav Flegr, of Charles University, Czech Republic, and colleagues for investigating whether it is mentally hazardous for a human being to own a cat.' that's edgy science around here!  A lot of ship's cats will be acting super-well for the duration of that one! ;) ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Kathy on 19 September 2014, 15:09:41
The biology one is interesting - I've heard about it, and this research is exciting because other animals use the earth's magnetic fields for various sorts of orientation -
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Thursday Next on 19 September 2014, 15:34:08
The biology one is interesting - I've heard about it, and this research is exciting because other animals use the earth's magnetic fields for various sorts of orientation -

It is thought that even cats use it - this is believed to be how some cats that find themselves miles from home manage to get back weeks or months later.  As far as the Public Health one is concerned, anyone who thinks they own a cat is delusional anyway.  And I am now worried that I might be a psychopath because I am a night-owl!
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: AvastMH on 19 September 2014, 15:36:50
"anyone who thinks they own a cat is delusional anyway"...well said! ::) ;) :D
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Randi on 19 September 2014, 16:00:45
Well said indeed! ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: jil on 20 September 2014, 02:31:40
I especially like the Arctic Science one (although that may reflect the reindeer obsession I picked up on the Bear!) and as for the psychology one I'm typing this at 7:40 am local time  ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Helen J on 22 September 2014, 15:21:31
Hello all, I'll be away for a bit from this evening.  I move house tomorrow, and don't know quite when I'll have internet access at my new home.  But as soon as I do, I'll be back!
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Randi on 22 September 2014, 15:24:37
Hope everything goes smoothly!
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 22 September 2014, 15:32:46
Have a good move, rest some, and then come and tell us about it?  :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Michael on 22 September 2014, 18:37:17
Good luck with the move. I hope you have friends who will do the heavy lifting. Were I there, I'd be glad to help, but...  ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Caro on 23 September 2014, 02:25:17
Good luck, Helen!

Greetings all, and a happy autumnal/vernal equinox to you.  :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 23 September 2014, 05:46:43
(https://content-na.drive.amazonaws.com/cdproxy//templink/z625th2lSrjNn3A08y8GHdVEHTjjGN929UG3mERo1sgLAYspN?viewBox=1027)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: AvastMH on 23 September 2014, 07:43:42
Good luck with the move Helen! Hope all goes well and that rural Notts is a fine place to be. :-*
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: AvastMH on 23 September 2014, 07:46:46
Google has a very funny logo today to celebrate autumn.
It's sooo hot outside today that I've come in for a break!
But my juneberry bush is starting to do that north american wonderful red leaves thing...and the grapes on the vine are finally ripe. The local blackbird and robin are finishing them (and all the creepy crawlies in them) off as a pre-winter feast.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 23 September 2014, 10:15:56
Chicago is having what feels perfect for early autumn.  The Michigan orchards have finished with sending us seasonal peaches and pears, and are now flooding our stores with dozens of different colors/flavors of apples.  Night temps are dropping down into the 40s but coming back up into the 60s and 70s during the day - warning that the first frosts will be here shortly. 

And our rainy clouds have been blown away and we have bright blue sunny skies.  Perfect.  Leaves are all still green though.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: AvastMH on 23 September 2014, 13:01:55
Just got some bargain peaches at the end of season..so it's peach pickling tonight. Trying a Delia Smith recipe - never did pickled fruit before, just chutneys, so I hope it works well.  Tomorrow I'm doing the sloe gin, and Thursday will be damson (bullace) something or another (any suggestions?).
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Tegwen on 23 September 2014, 13:56:59
Google has a very funny logo today to celebrate autumn.
It's sooo hot outside today that I've come in for a break!
But my juneberry bush is starting to do that north american wonderful red leaves thing...and the grapes on the vine are finally ripe. The local blackbird and robin are finishing them (and all the creepy crawlies in them) off as a pre-winter feast.

Thanks for reminding me about grapes Joan. I have a vine up the front of my house which has been ignored due to building work. Today I have been through and there are a few bunches worth bagging to prevent bird damage as they ripen, so I have done that. Still some left for the birds. It has been a good year for fruit. We have had loads of figs from the tree on the other end of the house to the vine and the hedges are still full of blackberries.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: AvastMH on 23 September 2014, 15:31:20
Tegwen! Long time no see - nice to hear from you. I'm jealous of anyone who can get out for fruit (bad back etc etc) as it is a great year. Glad you managed to salvage some grapes for yourself. I sat out in  the sun eating warm grapes today - heavenly. But real figs from your own tree - yummmmmy. :P ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Kathy on 23 September 2014, 17:07:50
http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/an-american-sculptors-masks-restored-french-soldiers-disfigured-in-world-war-i/2014/09/22/4748b8d4-38ec-11e4-9c9f-ebb47272e40e_story.html

A friend sent me this - there is a link to her papers in the article - some of the pictures are horrifying, but the work this and other artists did was awesome! 
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 23 September 2014, 17:47:43
What a wonderful way to help.  The kind of thing only a very few people can do - most of us are not artists.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Caro on 24 September 2014, 03:58:57
Thanks for posting Kathy. Fascinating film.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Craig on 24 September 2014, 04:58:26
Yes, very impressive, Kathy.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: AvastMH on 24 September 2014, 05:21:30
Oh gosh - how wonderful Kathy - thanks for finding such a heart-warming and inspirational film.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Michael on 26 September 2014, 21:52:19
For those of you running Unix or variants thereof (I use cygwin) there is the Shellshock bash virus. The way to check if you're vulnerable is:

   I ran my "old" bash shell and got the "vulnerable" remark.

$ env x='() { :;}; echo vulnerable' bash -c "echo done running"
vulnerable
done running
$


I went to cygwin and updated my packages and when I ran the new shell and got this:

$ env x='() { :;}; echo vulnerable' bash -c "echo done running"
bash: warning: x: ignoring function definition attempt
bash: error importing function definition for `x'
done running
$


A word to the wise..

Michael
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Hanibal94 on 30 September 2014, 11:43:30
Good news, people - I have now finished another batch of exams, and will be starting the third practical phase of my dual-studies course tomorrow. It lasts until the end of the year.
While my average day will be longer than during classes, I will not have to do anything at home, so I can devote more time to OW.
Perhaps I can even sneak in a few transcriptions during lunch break if I eat fast enough  ;)

I'm going to focus on finishing my part on the Unalga - then I can think of 2014 as the year I started with unfinished business on three ships (Bear, Pioneer, Unalga) and finished with all of them done and off my list.

Not sure where I'll go after that - maybe the Perry? Or the Patterson?
Meh, I'll figure something out when the time comes.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Randi on 30 September 2014, 12:44:33
Good news indeed!

Sounds like a good system.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 30 September 2014, 13:10:14
I like the way you organize, Hanibal.  :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Michael on 30 September 2014, 13:11:05
Not sure where I'll go after that - maybe the Perry? Or the Patterson?
Meh, I'll figure something out when the time comes.

You could join Stuart, JMayJ and I on the Concord and help us bring peace, order and good government to the ungrateful people in the Philippines.  ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 30 September 2014, 13:13:52
NASA's Astronomy Picture of the Day (http://apod.nasa.gov/apod/astropix.html)
Not astronomy this time, but flat out gorgeous.

(http://apod.nasa.gov/apod/image/1409/fullrainbow_leonhardt_960.jpg)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: jil on 30 September 2014, 13:42:38
Ooooooo!
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Hanibal94 on 30 September 2014, 15:18:27
Not sure where I'll go after that - maybe the Perry? Or the Patterson?
Meh, I'll figure something out when the time comes.

You could join Stuart, JMayJ and I on the Concord and help us bring peace, order and good government to the ungrateful people in the Philippines.  ;)

Well, the Concord is rather large and always has 24 WR/day. Not really my type of ship.
I like the Arctic better - the data is more useful to the scientists, and with a bit of luck I might encounter another case of my ship bringing Siberian reindeer to the grateful people.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 30 September 2014, 17:07:03
The Concord does have a lot of log books, that is why we need speedy fingers.  %^)

With no split in the logs it is going to take a long time for data to get to the boffins.

Any help appreciated from anybody anytime.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Hanibal94 on 01 October 2014, 03:56:43
The Concord does have a lot of log books, that is why we need speedy fingers.  %^)

With no split in the logs it is going to take a long time for data to get to the boffins.

Any help appreciated from anybody anytime.

I'll keep that in mind, Stuart. Thanks.
But as I said, I believe the boffins want Arctic data more than Phillipine data, so I'm gonna focus on giving them Arctic data.
Plus, there's already three active transcribers on the Concord, so I could run into issues with leapfrogging.
And I also know you and Michael have put a lot of effort into the Concord's crew lists, and I don't wanna ruin that by causing gaps in your streams.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 01 October 2014, 05:26:19
You are right, we do seem to spend a lot of time in the Philippine Ids.
I skipped ahead looking at a few log books and we are still there with only a few short excursions elsewhere.
This could turn into a long waste of out time.

Can we have a researchers comment on whether the amount of time we spend to report P.I. weather is worth it?

Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Randi on 01 October 2014, 07:44:59
I will ask, but since we did RN ships and they weren't in the Arctic I assume that we do want the Philippines.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Randi on 01 October 2014, 12:18:41
Just in case you didn't get the email: We Need Your Help: Vote for the Zooniverse!
Quote
Hello,

The Zooniverse is part of a competition to receive a grant to fund an entirely new type of crowdsourcing project, and now we need your help to make it happen!

Mazda are running the competition on their ?Mazda Rebels? [https://www.mazdarebels.com/en-gb/content/four-inspiring-ted-fellows-one-mazda-grant/] website. The Zooniverse is in the running and, if we win, we plan to use the Mazda grant to create a Zooniverse ?First Responders? program. The aim is to use the power of the Zooniverse to help during a major humanitarian crisis, such as a future natural disaster. Together we've made major contributions to scientific research, from marking bubbles in the Milky Way to marking giraffes in the Serengeti. We think exploring and tagging images taken by satellites, and from the air, could provide similarly useful results in an humanitarian crisis, assisting organisations and first responders on the ground, who need more accurate information about where help is needed.

This is something we've been working on for a while, in an effort led by Galaxy Zoo researcher Brooke Simmons, and now we're ready to give it a try. As a global community coming together during a crisis, the Zooniverse could provide rapid assistance and even, possibly, save lives.

The competition itself [https://www.mazdarebels.com/en-gb/content/four-inspiring-ted-fellows-one-mazda-grant/] features our own Robert Simpson in a short video [https://www.mazdarebels.com/en-gb/content/the-astronomer/] outlining what we do at the Zooniverse and highlighting some different projects (you might also spot Galaxy Zoo scientist Brooke Simmons in her other capacity as a Zooniverse volunteer!). It?s a great video, and Rob - who is a TED Fellow this year - is up against four other TED Fellows, who each have their own projects. There is a public vote to determine who gets the grant, and there are only two weeks left to vote.

If you?re interested, go and watch the videos and vote for your favourite project at https://www.mazdarebels.com/en-gb/content/four-inspiring-ted-fellows-one-mazda-grant

Thanks,

Grant and the Zooniverse Team
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Michael on 01 October 2014, 20:36:15
I'd be happy to vote, but I can't figure out how, unless you need facebook, which I don't have...
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 01 October 2014, 22:34:07
https://www.mazdarebels.com/en-gb/content/four-inspiring-ted-fellows-one-mazda-grant/

You need to sign in with a username and password - or sign in thru facebook of twitter or a couple of others if you prefer.  Though I think I cannot repeat my vote since I no longer get a chance to support a project, just see the results to date.  (We are winning, but far from the end still - 47% to 28, 22, 1.  Thirteen days still to go.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Randi on 02 October 2014, 02:26:21
I used my google account.

Be sure you see the results.
I 'voted' last night, but I didn't get the results page.
This morning, just to test, I tried to vote and this time it seems to have registered because I now see the results to date.
I just closed the tab and opened the link again and I see the results to date.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Caro on 02 October 2014, 03:03:54
Just voted.
Rob has an advantage in that there are a lot of Zooniverse members out there! He is on 49% now.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: philip.brohan on 02 October 2014, 05:34:04
There are precious few places where we don't need more observations (at least before about 1950). We do need the Philippines please - the station record for that part of the world is pretty sparse (see https://vimeo.com/105244037) there are times when Concord was there and we've got only Manilla or nothing at all - we don't get to the point where we've got plenty of coverage until about 1954.

You are right, we do seem to spend a lot of time in the Philippine Ids.
I skipped ahead looking at a few log books and we are still there with only a few short excursions elsewhere.
This could turn into a long waste of out time.

Can we have a researchers comment on whether the amount of time we spend to report P.I. weather is worth it?
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 02 October 2014, 05:37:42
Thanks, Philip.  :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Hanibal94 on 02 October 2014, 07:03:29
Yeah, thanks. Maybe I will join the Concord and visit the Phillipines after all some day - but first, I must finish the Unalga.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Michael on 02 October 2014, 10:35:38
Finally! Not the easiest website, but after getting an account and signing out and then back in I got to vote. 51%, 25%, 21% and 1%.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 02 October 2014, 11:25:49
 ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: JamesAPrattIII on 02 October 2014, 15:11:09
I have some information some people might find usefull:

While attending a league of WW I aviation Historians seminar and the dawn patrol rodevous I attended a lecture by Jenns Robertson who put theTheater History of Operations Reports THOR on line see://afri,au.af.mil/thor/ It is a listing of US bombing reports from WW I and other wars online good news they contain weather data bad news I can't seem to get to them. May be someone with some better computer skills can.

reply 8637 besides Chinese laborers the British brought in laborers from the West Indies and Africa to work in France. They also brought in large numbers of Indian laborers to work in Mesopotamia. The French also brought in large numbers of laborers from Indochina and Africa to work there. The Germans, Austrians, and Russians all used POWs as laborers on a large scale as did the British and French to a lessor extent. lets just say WW I was a very labor intense war the equipment that was around in later wars was not around back then so a whole lot of work had to be done by hand
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Thursday Next on 02 October 2014, 15:22:32
Just voted.
Rob has an advantage in that there are a lot of Zooniverse members out there! He is on 49% now.

I was very happy to vote for the Zooniverse project - it's a really worthwhile cause.  But I wish they could support two projects, because the opthalmology one seemed like it would also be very beneficial.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Helen J on 03 October 2014, 12:45:34
Hello everyone - at last I'm back!  It took a lot longer than I'd been promised to get my broadband up and running, but this morning it finally happened.  So once I've caught up with the forum (four pages of unread topics!) I'll be back on Pioneer - where I see Craig is snapping at my first lieutenant's heels.  I suspect I'm doomed to slide down the ranks ....
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Randi on 03 October 2014, 12:58:01
Welcome back, Helen!

I was just thinking of you this morning!
Are you settled in your new home?
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Caro on 03 October 2014, 13:11:53
Hi Helen. I hope you are happy in your pretty house.  :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Helen J on 03 October 2014, 13:43:41
Thanks Randi and Caro - yes, I'm getting settled in nicely.  Nearly all the boxes are empty (though I still have to get rid of the boxes themselves) and I've recycled all the bottles left behind by the previous tenant!  Now I need to get to grips with the garden, which has got rather out of hand.  As I know nothing at all about gardening this is a bit daunting.  However today I got out and swept up leaves which is the gardening equivalent of dusting, and not beyond my skills.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: studentforever on 03 October 2014, 13:44:46
Hi again. Which part of the country are you in now and are you a curate or with other Franciscans.

Apart from the Broadband I hope the rest of the move went well and you enjoy your new home.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Helen J on 03 October 2014, 13:51:14
I'm in Nottinghamshire - still as a curate and not living with other Franciscans (though rather closer to a couple of our houses than before).

Yes, the move went pretty well - except for the bed base which wouldn't go up the stairs.  So I spent a week or so sleeping on the mattress on the floor until I managed to find a flat pack metal bed base which I got up the stairs in pieces and then put together.  And so far it's doing OK - though I confess I slept a bit cautiously the first night, just in case I hadn't put it together right.  And I've managed to find a charity who can use the bed base too, so it's all working out OK.

It's a lovely house, and my neighbours are friendly.  It's also close to a lot of lovely walks - in Sherwood Forest no less. 
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Hanibal94 on 03 October 2014, 15:03:47
Welcome back, Helen! Great to hear your move went well, and you finally got your connection set up.
It'll be nice to have you actively working on the Pioneer again - Craig's made excellent progress, but the third stream could use a lot more help.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Thursday Next on 03 October 2014, 15:04:08
Glad the move went well, Helen.  Hope you will be very happy in your new home!
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 03 October 2014, 15:11:13
I have some information some people might find useful:

While attending a league of WW I aviation Historians seminar and the dawn patrol rodevous, I attended a lecture by Jenns Robertson who put the Theater History of Operations Reports THOR on line see://afri,au.af.mil/thor/ It is a listing of US bombing reports from WW I and other wars online good news they contain weather data bad news I can't seem to get to them. May be someone with some better computer skills can.

This is the link that works:  http://afri.au.af.mil/thor/report.asp
I was trying to see what our seaplanes were doing, but there seems to be a problem with the site.  I can't get a report because their Captcha is always "incorrect".  Maybe someone else will be luckier. 
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 03 October 2014, 15:12:48
I'm glad you are settled in an area you really like.  Welcome back!!  :)

I'm in Nottinghamshire - still as a curate and not living with other Franciscans (though rather closer to a couple of our houses than before).

Yes, the move went pretty well - except for the bed base which wouldn't go up the stairs.  So I spent a week or so sleeping on the mattress on the floor until I managed to find a flat pack metal bed base which I got up the stairs in pieces and then put together.  And so far it's doing OK - though I confess I slept a bit cautiously the first night, just in case I hadn't put it together right.  And I've managed to find a charity who can use the bed base too, so it's all working out OK.

It's a lovely house, and my neighbours are friendly.  It's also close to a lot of lovely walks - in Sherwood Forest no less.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Randi on 03 October 2014, 15:16:35
Captcha didn't work for me either.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 03 October 2014, 16:19:29
Helen J,
Sorry I missed you on my trip.
Seems Joan is back in the land of the living again. %^)

Do you have a village to move you into on the map.

Stuart.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: studentforever on 03 October 2014, 16:41:33
Enjoy getting to know your new congregation. It is good to have you back.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Dean on 03 October 2014, 22:06:37
Enjoy getting to know your new congregation. It is good to have you back.

 ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Craig on 04 October 2014, 05:23:24
I am glad you're back, Helen. It's been pretty quiet on the Pioneer. You will be enjoying the nice warm Honolulu weather before long.  ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Helen J on 04 October 2014, 11:06:40
Helen J,
Sorry I missed you on my trip.
Seems Joan is back in the land of the living again. %^)

Do you have a village to move you into on the map.

Stuart.

Yes, it was a shame we didn't get to meet up.  You could move me to Edwinstowe if you can find it on the map - it's not quite where I am but probably the nearest place you'll find.  If Edwinstowe can't be found, you could put me in Ollerton, which isn't far away either.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Tegwen on 04 October 2014, 12:28:32
Helen J,
Sorry I missed you on my trip.
Seems Joan is back in the land of the living again. %^)

Do you have a village to move you into on the map.

Stuart.

Yes, it was a shame we didn't get to meet up.  You could move me to Edwinstowe if you can find it on the map - it's not quite where I am but probably the nearest place you'll find.  If Edwinstowe can't be found, you could put me in Ollerton, which isn't far away either.

Welcome to my home part of the world Helen. My parents lived in Edingly for many years and I know Edwinstowe, Ollerton & surrounds very well. Now sadly a fair distance away and no direct family ties still in the area.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: AvastMH on 04 October 2014, 12:33:08
I'm in Nottinghamshire - still as a curate and not living with other Franciscans (though rather closer to a couple of our houses than before).

Yes, the move went pretty well - except for the bed base which wouldn't go up the stairs.  So I spent a week or so sleeping on the mattress on the floor until I managed to find a flat pack metal bed base which I got up the stairs in pieces and then put together.  And so far it's doing OK - though I confess I slept a bit cautiously the first night, just in case I hadn't put it together right.  And I've managed to find a charity who can use the bed base too, so it's all working out OK.

It's a lovely house, and my neighbours are friendly.  It's also close to a lot of lovely walks - in Sherwood Forest no less.

So glad that you have good neighbours! They make the world go around for sure.  And glad to hear that you conquered making the bed (literally). I hope you settle in well with the local congregation.  I'm sure you will.  :D :D

PS - I see that Edwinstowe is the 'home' of Robin Hood...don't go buying dodgy venison from men in green tights...could lead to trouble  ;) ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Helen J on 04 October 2014, 12:35:26
Thank you everyone.  Next Sunday I start in the parish, with a licensing service and general jollity.  I'm looking forward to getting started and seeing what's the same as in my previous parish, and what's different.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: jil on 04 October 2014, 13:40:36
(A bit late but) Welcome home Helen!
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Helen J on 04 October 2014, 14:00:59
Thank you jil!  It's good to be back on the good ship Pioneer.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 04 October 2014, 16:59:44
Yes, it was a shame we didn't get to meet up.  You could move me to Edwinstowe if you can find it on the map - it's not quite where I am but probably the nearest place you'll find.  If Edwinstowe can't be found, you could put me in Ollerton, which isn't far away either.

Helen, is that your church in the middle of the roundabout?
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:St_Paulinus_Church_New_Ollerton_-_geograph.org.uk_-_113226.jpg (http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:St_Paulinus_Church_New_Ollerton_-_geograph.org.uk_-_113226.jpg)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: tastiger on 04 October 2014, 17:07:43
Yes, it was a shame we didn't get to meet up.  You could move me to Edwinstowe if you can find it on the map - it's not quite where I am but probably the nearest place you'll find.  If Edwinstowe can't be found, you could put me in Ollerton, which isn't far away either.

Helen, is that your church in the middle of the roundabout?
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:St_Paulinus_Church_New_Ollerton_-_geograph.org.uk_-_113226.jpg (http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:St_Paulinus_Church_New_Ollerton_-_geograph.org.uk_-_113226.jpg)

Oooo, looks historic! :D
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Helen J on 04 October 2014, 17:11:54
No, New Ollerton is the next door parish - the church which is one of 'mine' which you're most likely to find is St Mary's Edwinstowe - where (according to legend!) Robin Hood and Maid Marian were married.  Here's a link to a picture:
http://www.geograph.org.uk/photo/237723

I suspect St Paulinus isn't especially historic, as New Ollerton isn't a particularly old place (unlike Old Ollerton which as the name suggests has some history).
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 04 October 2014, 17:26:30
That is so cool.   ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 04 October 2014, 18:30:32
That is so cool.   ;D

And some what more spectacular.
Well done Helen and good luck.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Danny252 on 04 October 2014, 19:43:17
I suspect St Paulinus isn't especially historic, as New Ollerton isn't a particularly old place (unlike Old Ollerton which as the name suggests has some history).

Built 1931, so certainly not that old!

I think the big hint is that it's made of bricks - I'm not sure I've seen any UK church over a century old which was brick-built.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Randi on 05 October 2014, 03:25:23
I think the big hint is that it's made of bricks - I'm not sure I've seen any UK church over a century old which was brick-built.
Thanks for that bit of information 8)
I like it. The sign stands out like a sore thumb though :(
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Helen J on 05 October 2014, 06:59:32

I like it. The sign stands out like a sore thumb though :(

I suppose if you're in the middle of a roundabout, there's no point being subtle!
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 05 October 2014, 15:21:50
Yes but you can draw a crowd from all around you.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Caro on 06 October 2014, 03:14:03
Good morning etc OW. Wild autumnal weather here for the week by the sound of it.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Helen J on 06 October 2014, 07:44:45
Indeed - heavy rain here this morning.  And by chance I finally got back to my Hebrew practice - in the middle of the flood story!  Seemed rather apt as the rain poured down outside.   :D
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: studentforever on 06 October 2014, 08:06:28
The west of Scotland is much the same, although it has eased now. Would you believe, Helen, I'm back doing Coptic and the current passage is Father Macarius and the Devil, not quite so germane but an exposure to a very different mind set.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Dean on 06 October 2014, 15:00:40
I suspect St Paulinus isn't especially historic, as New Ollerton isn't a particularly old place (unlike Old Ollerton which as the name suggests has some history).

Built 1931, so certainly not that old!

I think the big hint is that it's made of bricks - I'm not sure I've seen any UK church over a century old which was brick-built.

1931 in your area is positively MODERN! ;)  Similar to my home church which was built in 1928.  http://www.lockportemmanuelumc.org/   :D
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Helen J on 06 October 2014, 15:35:09
Definitely - less than a century old is undoubtedly pretty modern in this country.  Though from a book which I happened to be looking at this afternoon, there are a lot of them around in this part of the world.  Most were built for new communities - there's one in my patch built in the late 1920s when a new coal mine opened up (now of course closed ....)  It has a large piece of coal in one of the aisles, as a reminder of its origins.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 08 October 2014, 01:41:48
Here is fun idea: http://mars.nasa.gov/participate/send-your-name/orion-first-flight/index.cfm

Quote
Send your name to Mars
With your Boarding Pass,
your name will fly on
ORION'S FLIGHT TEST
~ Dec. 4-6, 2014

Frequent Flyer points earned
for flights taken on NASA's #JourneyToMars.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: szukacz on 10 October 2014, 03:01:41
I had flown  ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: AvastMH on 10 October 2014, 17:40:27
Frequent flyer points? Erm - do they do upgrades to business class as well please? My friends has long legs, can we book seats by the exit doors?  ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Hanibal94 on 10 October 2014, 17:45:20
And do we get drinks as well? Or in-flight meals? How about a movie or two?
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Caro on 11 October 2014, 04:46:28
Hello OW.
Amazing stuff (http://petapixel.com/2014/10/10/3d-printed-telescope-takes-lumia-smartphone-astrophotography-citizen-science/?utm_source=facebook.com&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=buffer&utm_content=buffer2072c).
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Caro on 11 October 2014, 06:54:54
Hi Liz. Nice to see you here again.  ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: elizabeth on 11 October 2014, 06:56:53
Hi Liz. Nice to see you here again.  ;)
;D Thanks!
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: AvastMH on 11 October 2014, 10:00:46
Um..terrible secret, in a few too-tired to do OW moments I decided to check out the PenguinWatch thing (sorry Hanibal94!). And saw this photo:

http://zooniverse-static.s3.amazonaws.com/www.penguinwatch.org/subjects/standard/54119d5912fc4d79f30396f1.JPG (http://zooniverse-static.s3.amazonaws.com/www.penguinwatch.org/subjects/standard/54119d5912fc4d79f30396f1.JPG)

Blew my mind. Penguin/Human Bean stand off. I can just hear the adult pengs telling the chicks "OK kids, if you dress like that you can forget catching fish...they'll spot you a mile off!"  :) :)
Back to the sober (well perhaps not so when in port) Patterson.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Randi on 11 October 2014, 10:07:31
 ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: studentforever on 11 October 2014, 12:59:51
 Absolutely

 ;D ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Hanibal94 on 11 October 2014, 14:50:18
Very nice photo. Thanks for sharing .... wait just a minute. You were working on a DIFFERENT project!?
BAD JOAN! No dessert for you tonight!
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Randi on 11 October 2014, 15:00:39
 ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: AvastMH on 11 October 2014, 17:38:25
Sorry!  I could spin you some yarn about knowing what the enemy camp is up to...but I'll just sit in the corner and only dream of apple crumble instead.  ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Craig on 11 October 2014, 17:50:02
Corners are reserved for eating Christmas pies, Joan  ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Dean on 11 October 2014, 23:18:48
Sorry!  I could spin you some yarn about knowing what the enemy camp is up to...but I'll just sit in the corner and only dream of apple crumble instead.  ;)

Corners are reserved for eating Christmas pies, Joan  ;D

 ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 12 October 2014, 01:47:33
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-2mWx4dMWaHs/VDo-srgD4OI/AAAAAAAABFo/E4U16wHr_vs/w629-h434-no/Happy%2BBirthday%2BOW.JPG)

We are 4 years old today, which is very nice.  :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: jil on 12 October 2014, 03:14:26
 8) Happy Birthday to us

Another excuse for cake    :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Hanibal94 on 12 October 2014, 04:39:36
Excuses for cake are always very very welcome!   :D

Wow ... four whole years already. That's awesome.
I can't believe it's already been so long since I first signed up (OK, not quite - I joined between 1 and 2 weeks after OW's first launch)... and ruined my first transcriptions on HMS Bee by not reading the tutorial carefully (I later went back and fixed them).
I've come a very long way since then, and I look forward to the project continuing for many years. I hope you can all stay too - don't want any more losses such as Cyzaki, jennfurr, pliget, heb29 or Bunting Tosser. Sure wish they were here.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Randi on 12 October 2014, 04:52:05
Well put! ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Caro on 12 October 2014, 04:54:10
Happy 4th birthday
to the good ship Old Weather!


 :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: elizabeth on 12 October 2014, 05:08:31
 ;D ;D ;D  Well four years HAPPY BIRTHDAY!!! You all do good work. Here's to FOUR  more!
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Dean on 12 October 2014, 09:10:01
Four more, or FORTY more!

May we all be here, well, and still editing/transcribing and may all your pages be readable!   ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: studentforever on 12 October 2014, 12:50:25
Please get the logs scanned before the ink fades any further - I don't think my eyes will be up to even the current logs in 40 years time although I hope to be able to read the congratulations from the Palace!! But I agree with Hanibal, I miss some of our absent friends and hope they are well.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 12 October 2014, 16:16:45
Happy 'Yorkshire Pudding Day' (13 Oct 2014)
and also
'Native American day'
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: AvastMH on 12 October 2014, 18:14:16
Yorkshire pudding day....bliss! That's dinner sorted out for tomorrow...
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Michael on 12 October 2014, 19:53:09
It's Thanksgiving Day in Canada on Oct 13, and Columbus day in the US. We're eating our traditional turkey today, though (visitors and their schedules). Two years ago we discovered, thanks to a demanding child in her 30s, that Yorkshire Puddings are EVEN MORE FABULOUS when made with turkey drippings instead of using roast beef. So, as you can see, we get to celebrate both days at the same time!  Turkey, gravy, mashed potatoes, Yorkshire Puddings!!!:) :) :) :) :)

I'll probably have to see a cardiologist once all the leftovers have been eaten.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 12 October 2014, 21:41:08
Since so many Canadians do their Thanksgiving over a couple of days, I'll post this now.  Happy Harvest Home, Canada!!

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-8GA5_CC6me0/VDpAYYUfUKI/AAAAAAAABLE/aTFD4JjKcQ0/w714-h478-no/Thanksgiving%2BCanadian.GIF)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Craig on 13 October 2014, 07:23:21
Thanks, Janet. We have a lot to be thankful for and contributing to OW is one way to give thanks.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Dean on 13 October 2014, 08:28:34
Thanks, Janet. We have a lot to be thankful for and contributing to OW is one way to give thanks.

 ;D ;D ;D ;D


Happy Thanksgiving to my Canadian friends!!

 For my US friends Happy Columbus day. (My Students used to call it 'Happy Clumsy Day!') ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Hanibal94 on 13 October 2014, 09:07:44
For my US friends Happy Columbus day. (My Students used to call it 'Happy Clumsy Day!') ;)

Thanks, but no thanks. I refuse to celebrate Columbus Day because I believe he was a greedy scumbag who deserves to be remembered with nothing but scorn for what he did to the Arawaks.
For more information, google "the oatmeal columbus was awful" and see what pops up.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 13 October 2014, 16:14:40
Ok, Hanibal, what do you think of

'Ada Lovelace day' (14 Sept)

Pick the 0's and 1's out of that.  :P   ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: AvastMH on 13 October 2014, 16:56:54
Harvest Home - I used to really like the harvest home service at church - belting out the words to the hymns. :D
(Even tried making a sheaf loaf - sadly it was awful - blobbed out and hard as a rock  :-[ :'()

(http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/640x480q90/538/2PuNJz.jpg)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: AvastMH on 13 October 2014, 16:59:14
Happy 4th birthday
to the good ship Old Weather!


 :)

oh wow! I just can't picture life without it...sail on for many more years OW.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Caro on 13 October 2014, 17:07:29
Yes indeed, Joan. As DZM, our new Zooniverse Community Staff member, says, it's great that 'the Zooniverse can succeed in the humanities as well as in the scientific realms'.  :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: tastiger on 13 October 2014, 18:14:28
Harvest Home - I used to really like the harvest home service at church - belting out the words to the hymns. :D
(Even tried making a sheaf loaf - sadly it was awful - blobbed out and hard as a rock  :-[ :'()

(http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/640x480q90/538/2PuNJz.jpg)

Looks good though. Doesn't look easy to set up pre-oven.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 13 October 2014, 21:29:20
Makes a fabulous Thanksgiving decoration - which is not entirely a bad thing.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: elizabeth on 14 October 2014, 00:12:38
Harvest Home - I used to really like the harvest home service at church - belting out the words to the hymns. :D
(Even tried making a sheaf loaf - sadly it was awful - blobbed out and hard as a rock  :-[ :'()

(http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/640x480q90/538/2PuNJz.jpg)
;D Oh dear! Sorry to here that but I must say it looks awesome. It looks as if was hard work.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Hanibal94 on 14 October 2014, 01:55:11
Ok, Hanibal, what do you think of

'Ada Lovelace day' (14 Sept)

Pick the 0's and 1's out of that.  :P   ;D

That sounds pretty 0111 1111 1111 0100  ;) (see attachment if you can't work it out)
Definitely a lot better than Columbus Day!

Harvest Home - I used to really like the harvest home service at church - belting out the words to the hymns. :D
(Even tried making a sheaf loaf - sadly it was awful - blobbed out and hard as a rock  :-[ :'()

(http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/640x480q90/538/2PuNJz.jpg)

That's a pity - it does look really well done, especially the bushels.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Randi on 14 October 2014, 02:48:29
It took me a bit, but I got it ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 14 October 2014, 04:25:06
"That sounds pretty 0111 1111 1111 0100  ;) (see attachment if you can't work it out)"

54 68 61 6E 73
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Hanibal94 on 14 October 2014, 05:18:24
OK Stuart, you win. I tried everything I could think of - binary, octal, decimal - but it was all for naught.

Could you please reveal your secret?
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Randi on 14 October 2014, 08:18:26
PM it to him rather than posting it - I may be crazy enough to try to solve it ::)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Michael on 14 October 2014, 13:23:24
"That sounds pretty 0111 1111 1111 0100  ;) (see attachment if you can't work it out)"

54 68 61 6E 73

Shouldn't that be 54 68 61 6E 6B 73 3F
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Hanibal94 on 14 October 2014, 13:53:59
You are correct, Michael - Stuart did misspell it.

For those of you who couldn't figure it out: each of those numbers is a hexadecimal number, and each one represents an ASCII character. Use Google to find out more - I'm not gonna give everything away.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 14 October 2014, 15:51:33
Your correct Michael, I forgot one letter the 6e (Sorry, silly me)

Thanks for picking it up.  %^)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: AvastMH on 14 October 2014, 17:13:13
I'm going to take up sanscrit.....that'll fool you all.....and me too.... ;) ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Randi on 14 October 2014, 17:37:09
Maybe it would help with the log books ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 14 October 2014, 17:53:38
 ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Michael on 14 October 2014, 20:15:55
I saw this in the logs, and thought, this is us. Optical Character Recognition Lite! If it won't do US Navy logs, it will probably have issues with Sanscrit...

Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Helen J on 15 October 2014, 07:40:34
I'm going to take up sanscrit.....that'll fool you all.....and me too.... ;) ;D

I'm impressed!   :D
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 15 October 2014, 15:02:10
I'm going to take up sanscrit.....that'll fool you all.....and me too.... ;) ;D

Hi Joan.

You could start here.
http://spokensanskrit.de/index.php

विगम


Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 15 October 2014, 18:20:38
How do you get Sanskrit to print in the forum when it won't print English pound signs?
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 16 October 2014, 00:52:47
Cut & paste.

?  = alt 156  (Hold down Alt and on the numpad type 156, release Alt)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Randi on 16 October 2014, 02:14:51
Hold down Alt and on the numpad type 156, release Alt - that works --- until you save it and it is converted to a question mark ::)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Caro on 16 October 2014, 02:43:09
This is a ? (pound, which is on my keyboard) and this is a ? (euro, also on my keyboard).  ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 16 October 2014, 04:40:32
So it is, I did check on preview not on post. %^(
Not having a good day on the forum, this is the second problem in one day.

 :'(
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Caro on 16 October 2014, 04:52:11
Not to worry Stuart.  ;)
It happens to all of us: it works in Preview but not in Post.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: AvastMH on 16 October 2014, 05:59:41
I'm going to take up sanscrit.....that'll fool you all.....and me too.... ;) ;D

Hi Joan.

You could start here.
http://spokensanskrit.de/index.php

विगम

Oh go one then Stuart - I'll take the bite - what does the sanskrit mean? (I think I'm a lesson behind you  ;))
J
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 16 October 2014, 07:12:20
विगम
says something like
farewell, goodbye, end, exit

Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Randi on 16 October 2014, 07:12:42
Giant kangaroos 'walked on two feet' (http://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-29603578)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Randi on 17 October 2014, 02:26:54
Ancient Greek shipwreck found to be world?s largest (https://www.sciencenews.org/article/ancient-greek-shipwreck-found-be-world%E2%80%99s-largest)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Hanibal94 on 17 October 2014, 03:04:07
Wow! That's pretty neat - just don't ask me to transcribe those logs!  ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: AvastMH on 17 October 2014, 05:53:28
विगम
says something like
farewell, goodbye, end, exit

That's close enough for me...I won't challenge you for it  :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Michael on 18 October 2014, 11:56:35
I'm on a mailing list for retired Environment Canada meteorologists and I sent the link to Kathy's interview about Old Weather, and a note about my experiences on this project along with links to the Old Weather home page. I hope this might get us a few new converts.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Randi on 18 October 2014, 12:39:41
Super !
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Caro on 18 October 2014, 12:49:31
Great work, Michael. :)

And in case you missed this tweet from WBEZ Chicago, hidden in one of my posts:

The Afternoon Shift ‏@WBEZafternoon
One of @the_zooniverse projects needs your help to digitize 19th century ships logs: http://www.oldweather.org
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 18 October 2014, 22:30:14
Great, Michael!!  Thanks.  :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Caro on 19 October 2014, 03:59:25
Hello Liz, Randi, guests.  :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Randi on 19 October 2014, 04:14:54
Hello Caro!
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: elizabeth on 19 October 2014, 05:09:35
 ;D Good day Caro
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Craig on 19 October 2014, 07:31:33
Good morning/afternoon everyone.

Yesterday I listened to this interesting interview http://www.cbc.ca/quirks/2014/10/18/2014-10-18-5/ about an oceanographer who is trying to set up a citizen science program to gather water samples from the world's oceans. We know, of course, that there is already a huge amount of information being gathered but he says there are still large gaps.  He is appealing to amateur sailors to gather these samples.

I don't know if he is interested in Lake Ontario, Dean, but you may want to follow this project to find out. He is now working on an inexpensive instrument that will assist sailors to take the samples. Here is a description of a voyage he took in the Indian Ocean to test the concept. http://www.uts.edu.au/research-and-teaching/our-research/ithree-institute/news/crowdsourcing-and-citizen-oceanography.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Dean on 19 October 2014, 17:35:16
Craig:

Took a quick look at the second web site. It looks like oceans but I WILL follow up and see if they are interested in the lakes - and at least leave him a name and a contact for OW.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: studentforever on 20 October 2014, 02:24:38
The latest ship to be restored - M33, a monitor who took part in the Gallipoli campaign. An interesting comment "the role of the Navy in WW1 deserves to be better known".  Well some of us are doing our bit.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-hampshire-29680915
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Caro on 22 October 2014, 03:21:14
Hello OW.
Apparently this is CAPS LOCK DAY.

"Caps Lock Day campaigns for the removal of the caps lock button from standard QWERTY keyboards (or for the moving of the button), due to people continually accidently pressing the button when they mean to use other keys. There's also a tendency for people to 'shout' (either intentionally or accidently) by using capital letters when typing, especially online, and Caps Lock Day would remove this minor annoyance."

Just so you know.  :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Craig on 22 October 2014, 06:18:48
That's a good idea, Caro. I am waiting for Escape day. That offers more possibilities  ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Hanibal94 on 22 October 2014, 06:43:15
Gotta admit, I don't see the point of CAPS LOCK DAY. I almost never hit it by mistake.
And it wouldn't get rid of SHOUTING online either. People could just use the Shift key to do that.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Dean on 22 October 2014, 07:57:04
I'm still looking for the 'ANY' key -- as in 'Hit any key to continue.'   ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Michael on 22 October 2014, 13:54:44
When I was working for money, so many years ago, (unlike now when I'm just working for nothing - hint hint) we were told to use "Press any key to continue" in any code we wrote. I suppose some frustrated user took the instruction "Hit" too literally.   ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: propriome on 22 October 2014, 16:03:37
You are maybe too young to remember about typewriters Hanibal?

The Caps Lock was quite useful indeed in those times, since keeping the shift pressed would have destroyed your fingers after a few strokes, or at least hindered a lot your progress.
It has been therefore placed on electrical typewriters and then on computer keyboards, otherwise every experienced typist (those who use all 10 fingers to type) would have had problem getting used to its absence.
There it is nowadays... and it's effectively pretty useless by now.

If you want to get rid of it and have you no fear of damaging your keyboard, you can remove screws, carefully take out the plastic jumper under the caps lock key (normally it is not glued or otherwise attached to the keyboard, it's just a little rubber cup) and voila'... your caps lock will cease functioning (remaining off wathever you do on the key).
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 22 October 2014, 16:59:41
You are maybe too young to remember about typewriters Hanibal?

The Caps Lock was quite useful indeed in those times, since keeping the shift pressed would have destroyed your fingers after a few strokes, or at least hindered a lot your progress.
It has been therefore placed on electrical typewriters and then on computer keyboards, otherwise every experienced typist (those who use all 10 fingers to type) would have had problem getting used to its absence.
There it is nowadays... and it's effectively pretty useless by now.

If you want to get rid of it and have you no fear of damaging your keyboard, you can remove screws, carefully take out the plastic jumper under the caps lock key (normally it is not glued or otherwise attached to the keyboard, it's just a little rubber cup) and voila'... your caps lock will cease functioning (remaining off wathever you do on the key).

You could just remap it to something more useful to you.
http://johnhaller.com/useful-stuff/disable-caps-lock
or
http://johnhaller.com/useful-stuff/billy-mays-caps-lock

Enjoy.

Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 22 October 2014, 17:15:06
Shame they couldn't just figure out how to rewire it to be a hot key one-touch ditto mark.  :)

I'm old enough, I still use it as a cap lock and would be irritated if it wasn't there.  Using formatting to convert to all caps feels too much like work.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 22 October 2014, 18:29:16
Shame they couldn't just figure out how to rewire it to be a hot key one-touch ditto mark.  :)

I'm old enough, I still use it as a cap lock and would be irritated if it wasn't there.  Using formatting to convert to all caps feels too much like work.

This utility will work (I have just tried it today)  I go tab to the cell then the caps lock to put in " then tab to the next cell etc.  %^)
 Download KeyExtender 3.99 (http://download.cnet.com/KeyExtender/3000-2094_4-10639828.html)

There is a trick in getting the " to work, as is it gives the ' mark. You have to click the the button with the two dots in it,
Step 1
in the Set box click down arrow and select Caps lock
Step 2
Click the two dot button and select TypeText, in the box that appears type "
Step 3
Click OK to close box
Step 4
click Reset.

All done.  %^)

To reset all keys to normal click Reset all

Maybe I should re program it to enter 'At anchor Manila, Philippine Ids.'  we are there for the next year of so.   :(
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Dean on 22 October 2014, 20:07:50
For those interested in Arctic Ice. This article is from my Cruising World Magazine.

Caro was kind enough to post it on her Google drive as it's too big for me to share here.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B_HS6UI83kHzMXpHU3NSOXdsdl9YZXFPLXpNaV9fVXNITXc0/view?usp=sharing

Thanks, Caro!! 
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 22 October 2014, 20:45:35
 :o
They had better have the passage open next August or I will be very disappointing.
 :'(
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Hanibal94 on 23 October 2014, 01:35:41
You are maybe too young to remember about typewriters Hanibal?

The Caps Lock was quite useful indeed in those times, since keeping the shift pressed would have destroyed your fingers after a few strokes, or at least hindered a lot your progress.
It has been therefore placed on electrical typewriters and then on computer keyboards, otherwise every experienced typist (those who use all 10 fingers to type) would have had problem getting used to its absence.
There it is nowadays... and it's effectively pretty useless by now.

If you want to get rid of it and have you no fear of damaging your keyboard, you can remove screws, carefully take out the plastic jumper under the caps lock key (normally it is not glued or otherwise attached to the keyboard, it's just a little rubber cup) and voila'... your caps lock will cease functioning (remaining off wathever you do on the key).

Yes, I am too young to remember typewriters - or use them.
But I wasn't confused about the Caps Lock key. I was confused about why people don't like it and want to turn it off, because I almost never hit it by mistake - and even when I do, I notice and correct it immediately.
And it's not useless either - in some programming languages, certain variables are supposed to be written entirely in capitals, and these variables can have ten letters or more.
So I for one would miss it - but given that keyboards are designed and made by geeks, this is extremely unlikely in my opinion.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 23 October 2014, 04:22:56
Almost everything about the keyboard layout is designed to suit manual typewriters that became obsolete decades ago - because experienced typists won't purchase them if their fingers are trained to hit what would now be the wrong keys.  I suspect that since code writers also use the cap lock key, all complaints about it will be in vain.  Don't worry too much.  :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: elizabeth on 23 October 2014, 05:53:51
Almost everything about the keyboard layout is designed to suit manual typewriters that became obsolete decades ago - because experienced typists won't purchase them if their fingers are trained to hit what would now be the wrong keys.  I suspect that since code writers also use the cap lock key, all complaints about it will be in vain.  Don't worry too much.  :)
LOL Did you say obsolete decades ago?  Oh my! I did not know! How many decades ago?  Since I learned to type on a manual.  ::)  Years ago! so explain to me in simple easy to understand why the cap lock key is of no use? I really want to know.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 23 October 2014, 06:17:26
Yes, they exist and are used - they don't understand the idea of planned obsolescence, which makes them awesome machines.  But when was the last manual typewriter manufactured in the US?  My mother insisted I take a typing course in high school 50 years ago, and they insisted that all students learn both the manual and electric models, because they'd need the electric working for any business.

Last Typewriter Factory in the World Shuts Its Doors (http://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2011/04/last-typewriter-factory-in-the-world-shuts-its-doors/237838/)

And there is a specialty store that sells new, but it must be googled for - it is in their "portable electronics" category but not on the catalog list.
HAMMACHER SCHLEMMER Home  Electronics  Portable Electronics (http://www.hammacher.com/Product/Default.aspx?sku=84295&refsku=82670)

I must say, if you want a machine that virtually never needs to go to a repair shop, just learn how to clean and keep a manual typewriter.  They last forever.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: propriome on 23 October 2014, 08:15:48
I still have mine somewhere (a gift from my parents)... I'd maybe have some difficulties on finding ribbons, but it's still fully functional ;D

Quote
in some programming languages, certain variables are supposed to be written entirely in capitals
Just if you're referring to naming convention for constants in C/C++, Java and other modern languages (i think i've never used caps lock for those however, and i can assure you i've written a lot of lines of code in 20 years or so on a pc keyboard).
If you refer to Fortran and Cobol instead, they're almost as obsolete as typewriters ;D

What can be annoying if you're experienced and look just the sceen while typing, is when you're passing from the shift to the tab key (or go a little long on the left while trying to type an 'a' ) and sUDDENLY yOU sTART vIEWING yOUR tEXT aS sUCH  ;D :P
Giving that force is no more required to type, to keep the shift key pressed while typing is not difficult when text is not so long... i think i've used the caps lock for an Unalga I/II page in which the logkeeper was writing all his watches capitalized.
Yes it's not an useless key, but far less useful than when the only alternative to handwriting was a typewriter.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Danny252 on 23 October 2014, 09:08:53
I still have mine somewhere (a gift from my parents)... I'd maybe have some difficulties on finding ribbons, but it's still fully functional ;D

Quote
in some programming languages, certain variables are supposed to be written entirely in capitals
Just if you're referring to naming convention for constants in C/C++, Java and other modern languages (i think i've never used caps lock for those however, and i can assure you i've written a lot of lines of code in 20 years or so on a pc keyboard).
If you refer to Fortran and Cobol instead, they're almost as obsolete as typewriters ;D

And I dare say I don't use many constant names over 10 characters long, so typing them is hardly a chore!

As obsolete as Fortran may be, it is inexplicably still one of the languages of choice in my line of work, as people still cling onto whatever tiny speed boost it gives over C. For bonus irony, anything that we decide doesn't have to be done in Fortran is written in Python, which is about as slow as you can get.

(I mostly miss my days of using gcc, and hacking in Assembly when that was too slow...)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: propriome on 23 October 2014, 09:24:31
 ;D
Never had the pleasure to code in Fortran... i started with Basic on an old ZX Spectrum 16, moved to asm 68000 on Amiga, and from there to asm x86, C/C++ and (alas :'() mostly, if not only Java nowadays.

I miss pretty hard the assembly days too :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Craig on 23 October 2014, 11:02:54
I noticed when my CPDN tasks abort there is a message from Fortran.

I began my software programming with it. I started the summer before I had any access to a computer (they were only in institutions and businesses in those days) reading the manual. It meant nothing to me at that time but in a numerical analysis course that fall we had a 3-hour practical Fortran lab and it all made sense. I loved it and used it for along time doing mathematical programming, until we decided to adopted PL-1 at work.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: studentforever on 23 October 2014, 11:29:19
There was a lot to be said for starting kids off with BASIC. It got them into logical thinking and was reasonably intuitive. You could embed assembler or even machine code into the programs and 'poke' memory locations which gave you a feel for the way computers worked 'inside'. You could pick up enough to write simple programs e.g. metres to feet and inches in a couple of hours and the BBC machines they used in schools were incredibly robust - lasted for years. We used them as data loggers in my uni dept. Once you have a framework for computer logic then changing language or using packages isn't so bad.
I started off with FORTRAN (oh the horrors of fixed format tape and card input) and heaved a sigh of relief when I moved on to packages and students who loved writing programs (I never really enjoyed it). My first mainframe memory allocation was 0.5meg which was a special favour and I could only run my program overnight! The joys ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: propriome on 23 October 2014, 13:22:59
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gave you a feel for the way computers worked 'inside'
I think it's the main lack of nowaday programmer newbies... we have lived the time in which one could still have a "full" knowledge of computers, now the IT world is so vast that a newcomer can lose himself pretty easily and an experienced programmer has to adjourn himself constantly.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Michael on 23 October 2014, 14:56:22
My cousin, who was an IT specialist for Agriculture Canada said that the majority of programs are still (this was about five years ago) were still written in Fortran or Cobol. It's basically a legacy issue. In the very late 1980s I was visiting a defense installation on Vancouver Island. the people there had to make quite complex calculations, and so they started programming in BASIC on an old Commodore or Tandy computer when personal computers were first available. As time went on, the amount of BASIC code increased exponentially even as their computers were upgraded . When I was there, they were switching to HP-9000 workstations and they were having problems because HP didn't have upgrades to their BASIC compilers high on their list of priorities. The amount of BASIC code made the work involved to switch to Fortran or C prohibitive. I knew a person in the climate section who had to take a course about Oracle and SQL. The instructor told the students that knowing Oracle and SQL could get them a job paying $70,000 per year. When asked for his experience, my friend mentioned IBM, JCL and the M-109 (I think) database, the instructor told him to forget Oracle. He said he could get my friend a job at $200,000 at a number of large companies who still used those old systems and couldn't find anyone who knew how to use them. Again, the cost to convert them to a newer system was prohibitive.

Like many of you, I started with Fortran IV-H back in 1970. I was working on a 32K computer which was, I was told, the second biggest in BC at the time. I was doing math on a 10x10x30 sized matrix and the program pretty well used the total memory available. Quite often programs had to be written so they would run in segments; segment 1 would run, the intermediate results stored on tape, segment 1 would be dumped, and segment 2 loaded, more conputations would be done, then segment 2 would be dumped, and so on.

When I did some programming with the climate section of Environment Canada a few years later, I had to fight with IBM's JCL (Job Control Language). I was writing the code in Chatham NB, punching the cards on a manual 12 key card punch that didn't show the characters, so I had to know that an 'A' was made by simultaneously pressing the 1, 6, and 8 key (or whatever the proper sequence was). I mailed the cards to an operator in the computer centre in Toronto, who ran the program and mailed the results back. I would then have to fix those cards that had an incorrect character, mail them back again. It was, to say the least, very laborious. It took months, but in the end that program was running for years - it could be still for all I know. I have it on my PC at home, but I re-wrote it in C.

I have to admit that I never learned Python, Ruby, Java, C++ or any of the other newer languages. I did a very little bit in Perl and a fair bit with lex and yacc, but I still use, and love, AWK or C if the problem is complex.

What a trip down memory lane. Just imagine, a modern toaster now is more powerful than the computer I worked in in 1970!   :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Michael on 23 October 2014, 15:10:14
For those of you to young to know, this was very similar to what I used to punch my Fortran code back in 1973...

Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Craig on 23 October 2014, 15:20:58
No caps lock, Michael :P?  ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: propriome on 23 October 2014, 15:27:06
Quote
Just imagine, a modern toaster now is more powerful than the computer I worked in in 1970!
So true... and still we've memory and capacity problems... with 128k we've reached the moon (AGC had 64k, there were two for redundancy).
Something must have broken in between, since my browser is actually occupying 715MB (virtual) memory and i'm still in my living room  ::) ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: tastiger on 23 October 2014, 15:28:55
Not to throw a wrench in this discussion which shows all of you are a lot smarter than me when it comes to computers with fascinating stories (and I thought I was advanced when I figured out how to unzip files too large for zip...), but I think I might have to learn Python on my own one day. Is it harder or easier than Java or Javascript?
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Hanibal94 on 23 October 2014, 15:34:57
I had to learn of bit of very basic Python when I was in 10th grade at school. I found it quite easy - and as I have experience with both Java and Javascript, I would say it's about the same in terms of difficulty.
But it was a long time ago, and I have above-average talent when it comes to coding, so I may not be the best person to ask on this matter.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Michael on 23 October 2014, 15:49:27
Not to throw a wrench in this discussion which shows all of you are a lot smarter than me when it comes to computers with fascinating stories (and I thought I was advanced when I figured out how to unzip files too large for zip...), but I think I might have to learn Python on my own one day. Is it harder or easier than Java or Javascript?

When I was at university in the late 1960s, I asked my math prof if I should learn computer programming. He said there was no need. I had completed his fourth year course in mathematical logic, and he said, "You know logic, learning computer languages is just learning grammar."  :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Thursday Next on 23 October 2014, 15:51:28
I remember being made to do a week long course on Fortran while in my second year at university which would have been 1970 - the course was during the Easter vacation so I wasn't best pleased.  And I didn't really bother that much with it as I was convinced computers would never catch on!  ::)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Hanibal94 on 23 October 2014, 15:59:09
...  And I didn't really bother that much with it as I was convinced computers would never catch on!  ::)

Don't worry, Su - you got lucky compared to some!

Quote from: Thomas Watson, chairman of IBM, 1943
I think there is a world market for maybe five computers.

Quote from: Engineer at the Advanced Computing Systems Division of IBM, 1968, commenting on the microchip
But what...is it good for?

Quote from: Ken Olson, president, chairman and founder of Digital Equipment Corp., 1977
There is no reason anyone would want a computer in their home.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Thursday Next on 23 October 2014, 16:04:06
Yes, at least I didn't have to go public with my opinion!  ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 23 October 2014, 16:06:37
Since you are all bragging about how big your first computer was.
Mine was a  Casio PB-100. (http://www.rskey.org/CMS/index.php/exhibit-hall/7?manufacturer=Casio&model=PB-100)
Standard with 1/2k of memory, up gradable with an additional 1k module which cost almost as much as the calculator.
It used Basic and you did not program with two char variables.
I could play Paper-rock-scissors with a 22 line program and do simultaneous Linear Equations though not at the same time.

I still have it and the FA-3 cassette interface.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Danny252 on 23 October 2014, 16:17:56
Not to throw a wrench in this discussion which shows all of you are a lot smarter than me when it comes to computers with fascinating stories (and I thought I was advanced when I figured out how to unzip files too large for zip...), but I think I might have to learn Python on my own one day. Is it harder or easier than Java or Javascript?

I dare say Python is far easier to grasp than Java (never touched Javascript), as it keeps a lot of things under the hood - you very rarely have to worry about variable types, for example.

It's probably somewhat worse if you've coded in a lower level language, as I've spent the last week cursing Python's different view on things. I'm still upset about how it handles for loops.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Caro on 23 October 2014, 16:30:43
My first computer was one of these babies; the ever popular Amstrad PCW.  ;D
512 KB of RAM and two (!) floppy disk drives.

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a3/Amstrad_PCW_8512.jpg/260px-Amstrad_PCW_8512.jpg)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 23 October 2014, 16:39:59
Janet,
Your idea of programming the caps Lock to give " saves me about 40 key strokes PER PAGE.
Thanks for the idea.

Hanibal,
You can turn the key use On/Off easily (alt 1 or alt 2)

Happy transcriber.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Hanibal94 on 23 October 2014, 17:02:40
I can't remember the specifics of the first computer I ever used because I was three when I got to use it.
All I know is that it had Windows 95, and there were a couple of Sesame Street thingies on it.

Today, on the other hand, I have a PC with an Intel i7 2.2 GHz processor, 16 GB of RAM, over 650 GB hard drive memory and a Radeon HD 6550M 2 GB graphics card.
And it's a laptop.

Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Randi on 23 October 2014, 17:21:32
Photographer Murray Fredericks braves Greenland's ice sheet (http://www.bbc.com/news/world-australia-29694087)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 23 October 2014, 17:32:42
Lovely pics.
From the same site.
http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-suffolk-29485974 (http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-suffolk-29485974)
(My kind of fun.)

Hanibal, you missed all the fun of windows 1,2,3, 3.11 (and all the previous versions of DOS)
HP still offers a DOS based computer for its high end gaming computers
HP 15-g009AX Notebook (APU Quad Core A8/ 4GB/ 1TB/ Free DOS/ 2GB Graph) (G8D85PA)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Dean on 23 October 2014, 19:27:06
Started my Computer life with a Commodore Vic 20 with 2k memory and a cassette tape drive!  Programmed in Basic or Logo.

Thought it absolutely AMAZING when one of my teaching colleagues showed me how to add and use a disk drive!

Read somewhere that we have more computing power in a current wrist watch than the astronauts had when they went to the moon. :o
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Michael on 23 October 2014, 20:01:27
Maybe I should re program it to enter 'At anchor Manila, Philippine Ids.'  we are there for the next year of so.   :(

I use the history feature in the dialogue box. Knowing I'm going to be in the Manila area for a long, long time, I delete all the history entries that pop up when I go to enter the port name, leaving only those like:
At anchor Manila, Philippine Ids.
Anchored Manila, Philippine Ids.
At anchor Canacoa Bay, Philippine Ids.
Anchored off Cavite, Philippine Ids.

(All these being the various anchorages in Manila Bay.) Deleting the entries can take a couple of minutes, but the time saved is worthwhile. I just enter 'a' in the dialogue box, put my mouse on the first entry and just hold down the Delete key til everything is gone. Then I do the same with 'b', 'c' and so on.

When I go to enter the port, by just typing Man, Can or Cav (and you don't even need the upper case) the history will show the one or two entries for that location. I pick the appropriate line with the mouse and the work is done.

Deleting the cache is not a good idea, because I like the list of names for people and boats that pop up in the history box. (Similarly, if I know someone has been transferred off the ship, I delete their name from the history associated with Mentions.)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Hanibal94 on 24 October 2014, 02:03:03
Hanibal, you missed all the fun of windows 1,2,3, 3.11 (and all the previous versions of DOS)
HP still offers a DOS based computer for its high end gaming computers
HP 15-g009AX Notebook (APU Quad Core A8/ 4GB/ 1TB/ Free DOS/ 2GB Graph) (G8D85PA)

No thanks, Grandpa. Old computers are useless - I always recycle 'em when I don't need them anymore.
And from what I've heard of FreeDOS, it sounds like none of the applications I like to use (BOINC, VLC, my many games) would work for it.

I'm gonna stick with my powerful Windows 7 laptop, thank you very much. I just spent a good bit of cash having the keyboard replaced and the cooling fan cleaned out - with a bit of luck, it'lll last me long enough for my next laptop to come with Windows 10 rather than Windows 8.1. The former is supposed to be better for traditional PCs.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 24 October 2014, 02:12:50
Enjoy.  ;) and less of the Gramps you cheeky little imp.  :P

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Post by: Randi on 24 October 2014, 02:49:37
Stuart - Don't forget CP/M ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Hanibal94 on 24 October 2014, 02:57:25
This cheeky little imp is the fastest transcriber in the fleet, and well on his way to becoming the most prolific one too.   ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 24 October 2014, 03:53:10
Stuart - Don't forget CP/M ;D

I do seem to remember CP/M but never used it.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Hanibal94 on 24 October 2014, 13:03:00
Something cool I heard about: The European Space Agency released a short scifi movie (https://www.youtube.com/embed/H08tGjXNHO4) to promote their ambitious Rosetta mission.

Quote from: BBC
Called, suitably, Ambition, it stars Game of Thrones' Aidan Gillen and actress Aisling Franciosi as master and apprentice on an alien world.

In the seven-minute drama, the pair discuss the presence of water on planets and the origin of life.

These are themes ESA's Rosetta probe hopes to address in its study of Comet 67P/Churyumov-Gerasimenko.

Next month, the spacecraft will drop a small robot on to the surface of the 4km-wide ice body to analyse its chemistry.

Theory holds that comets may have been responsible for delivering water to the planets early in the Solar System's history. They could even have delivered important chemistry that helped to kick-start biology. The mission intends to test these ideas.

ESA hopes the movie-short will explain the goals of Rosetta to a wider audience and heighten excitement ahead of the landing attempt on 12 November.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 24 October 2014, 16:30:52
Neat.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Craig on 24 October 2014, 16:51:54
Very well done.

Lets hope the landing goes well.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 24 October 2014, 17:05:22
Very well done - I'll be watching for the landing.  :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Dean on 24 October 2014, 19:36:08
WOW - 600 pages - Aren't we Chatty!!!!!! 8)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 24 October 2014, 19:51:43
It's called being friends for each other.  :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 25 October 2014, 04:41:13
Morning/afternoon/evening all.
Sitting on the varanda with a glass of Red  :) after a good days flying picking  :)   Burrs (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bur) out of my socks  :(
Have a good what ever it is.

All burrs out, happy again.  ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 25 October 2014, 05:25:35
Sounds great.  :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Craig on 25 October 2014, 06:05:16
How do you get burrs in your socks while flying, Stuart? You must have been flying pretty low  ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 25 October 2014, 06:36:21
We have to walk the gliders out to launch and back after landing through the paddocks.
Low flying is advised when landing. %^)
Red almost finished, must be bed time.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Dean on 25 October 2014, 17:10:27
We have to walk the gliders out to launch and back after landing through the paddocks.
Low flying is advised when landing. %^)
Red almost finished, must be bed time.

And as my old Flight Instructor taught me - Any landing you walk away from is a good one!! ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 25 October 2014, 17:42:56
And as my old Flight Instructor taught me - Any landing you walk away from is a good one!! ;)

Dean
It's even better when you can use the aircraft again.  8)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Craig on 25 October 2014, 19:24:55
I thought at first you were talking about fly fishing. Landings take on a whole different meaning  ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Randi on 26 October 2014, 05:52:53
Science chief warns on acid oceans (http://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-29746880)



Also Reef fish act drunk in carbon dioxide-rich ocean waters (https://www.sciencenews.org/article/reef-fish-act-drunk-carbon-dioxide%E2%80%93rich-ocean-waters)
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Post by: Caro on 26 October 2014, 05:54:31
Greetings from Greenwich Mean Time.

Interesting article: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/blogs-magazine-monitor-29761017

Today, we talk of going "round the bend" to mean going mad. The phrase is of 19th Century naval origin, and one theory says that it refers to the journey to, or from, the island now known as Telegraph Island - reached from India by means of a looping, bending route through the Strait of Hormuz and along a mountain-flanked inlet.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 26 October 2014, 14:37:59
I liked the sidebar article on clocks. found from the link on the BBC first page- You can explore the archive yourself. (http://www.qdl.qa/en)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 26 October 2014, 15:16:43
Check these out, they had a noisy night last night in Adelaide.
 lightning photos Adelaide (https://www.google.com.au/search?q=lightning+photos+adelaide&es_sm=93&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=eFVNVPnUHYnn8AXP-ILACw&ved=0CCkQ7Ak&biw=1366&bih=667)

and Melbourne also had a noisy night  lightning photos Melbourne  (https://www.google.com.au/search?q=lightning+photos+adelaide&es_sm=93&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=eFVNVPnUHYnn8AXP-ILACw&ved=0CCkQ7Ak&biw=1366&bih=667#tbm=isch&q=lightning+photos+melbourne&spell=1).
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Randi on 27 October 2014, 12:57:53
Viewpoint: Why are so few WW1 heroines remembered? (http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-29706831)
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Post by: Hanibal94 on 27 October 2014, 13:16:39
9 Extraordinary Moments Captured by Google Street View (http://www.goodnewsnetwork.org/9-extraordinary-moments-captured-google-street-view/)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 27 October 2014, 17:00:03
:)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Randi on 28 October 2014, 07:33:20
Cocoa antioxidants boost the aging brain (https://www.sciencenews.org/blog/science-ticker/cocoa-antioxidants-boost-aging-brain?tgt=more)
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Sadly, the authors note that the result does not imply people should eat more chocolate.
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Post by: Kathy on 28 October 2014, 08:24:16
A profoundly sad conclusion!
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Michael on 28 October 2014, 09:40:26
Cocoa antioxidants boost the aging brain (https://www.sciencenews.org/blog/science-ticker/cocoa-antioxidants-boost-aging-brain?tgt=more)
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Sadly, the authors note that the result does not imply people should eat more chocolate.

What do they know?! I say, "Eat chocolate!" Who are you going to believe: me or dome dumb scientist?
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Hanibal94 on 28 October 2014, 09:55:48
I say go for dark chocolate - it contains more cocoa, so that means more of the good stuff.
Plus, dark chocolate is supposed to be healthier then milk chocolate anyway.

Or you could try what one of the commenters suggests:

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Eat chocolate with the highest cocoa content you can stand. Who knows, you may even like 86 percent or higher cocoa content. Or put pure cocoa powder in various foods. A great many foods would taste better with some. Try pumpkin or squash bread with a little cocoa powder, for example, or in your salad dressing if you eat salad with dressing. The list is endless with a little imagination.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 28 October 2014, 10:32:23
I like that commenter.  Definitely put the dark kind on your weekly (daily?) menu!!!  Concluding you shouldn't eat more of something that is now proven to be good for you is an oxymoron.   ;D 8)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Helen J on 28 October 2014, 11:18:30
Having just made a batch of chocolate, ginger and orange cookies with some seriously dark chocolate, I feel perhaps I should eat more of them at a time, as they're pretty much a medicine - brain food, cold repellent, and digestive aid, all rolled into one!
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Kathy on 28 October 2014, 12:39:55
With that trifecta of goodness, you must, of course, eat more of them!
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Helen J on 28 October 2014, 13:06:04
I had a couple with my afternoon coffee, and I have to say, they are very good!  My excuse for making them is that I have friends visiting tomorrow - I just need to make sure I leave some for them ....  :D
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Hanibal94 on 28 October 2014, 13:07:57
Better put them away so you can't see them - I find that always helps.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Randi on 28 October 2014, 13:18:26
Better put them away so you can't see them - I find that always helps.
Same here.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Helen J on 28 October 2014, 13:32:27
They have just been put in a box in the cupboard in the kitchen - which should give them a reasonable chance of survival until the morning ...
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Thursday Next on 28 October 2014, 14:51:59
I thought that dark chocolate was supposed to good for your blood pressure?  If that isn't true, I'd really rather not know!
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 28 October 2014, 15:11:51
Heard on a science show that eating to much Chocolate can be Toxic.


(They did also say you have to eat about 26/28kg to get unwell.)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 28 October 2014, 15:14:58
Happy Internet and Cat day (29 Oct)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Caro on 28 October 2014, 15:26:10
Heard on a science show that eating to much Chocolate can be Toxic.
(They did also say you have to eat about 26/28kg to get unwell.)

I imagine eating 26/28 kg of anything would do you some harm.  :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 28 October 2014, 15:39:05
Too much of anything is toxic and will unbalance your system.  Not a reason to avoid regular access to the good stuff.  :)

(http://static.freepik.com/free-photo/chocolate--texture--textured--streams_3122652.jpg)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Hanibal94 on 28 October 2014, 15:44:09
You really hit the nail on the head there, Janet.  8)

Now if you excuse me, it's time for my evening snack - dark chocolate! *OM NOM NOM NOM*
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Post by: Janet Jaguar on 28 October 2014, 16:03:29
 ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: jil on 29 October 2014, 09:54:30
Half listening to Radio 6 Music  (http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b04mq801)and ears prick up when someone says Dazzle Ships.

OMD (Orchestral Manoeurvres in the Dark - or as we would know them Overcast, Misty & Drizzle!) produced an album in 1983 called Dazzle Ships (who knew?) and they are performing it on Sunday at Museum of Liverpool.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Caro on 29 October 2014, 10:32:44
Thanks for posting, Janet! The event is sold out, according to the museum's website.
There are free films to see though: http://www.liverpoolmuseums.org.uk/mol/events/displayevent.aspx?EventID=21133
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Thursday Next on 29 October 2014, 14:32:47
I heard the piece on 6Music, too.  When the album came out in 1983 it was apparently a complete flop.  The title would have meant nothing to me back then!  Wikipedia says: "The album is noted for its highly experimental content, particularly musique concrete sound collages, utilising shortwave radio recordings to explore Cold War and Eastern Bloc themes."  So I'm not really that tempted to check it out ...  It does include a track called Dazzle Ships (Parts II, III and VII) - heaven knows what happened to Parts I, IV, V and VI.  But interesting to hear talk about dazzle ships to a non-specialist audience, I guess.  It's on i-player http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b04mq801 if anyone's interested, starting just over an hour and a half in.

Edit:  In the end I had to go and listen to the Dazzle Ships track on Spotify  ::)  Don't see it becoming an earworm, somehow!
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 29 October 2014, 14:53:09
Interesting music for having breakfast to. Glad I have to go out now and mow the airstrip.  ;D

I have actually heard a lot worse in this Modern Era.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Dean on 29 October 2014, 18:45:54
The final word on Chocolate, he said!!!   ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 29 October 2014, 19:26:05
 ;D 8)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Hanibal94 on 30 October 2014, 01:26:36
Don't tell the US Congress - remember what they did with pizza?  ;) ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Thursday Next on 30 October 2014, 08:07:57
What did they do with pizza, then?
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 30 October 2014, 08:14:34
Discussed doing - didn't actually.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/post/did-congress-declare-pizza-as-a-vegetable-not-exactly/2011/11/20/gIQABXgmhN_blog.html
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Thursday Next on 30 October 2014, 08:32:40
Thanks, Janet.  I don't know if it is just a UK thing, but we have a major ongoing public health campaign about eating your 5-a-day, meaning portions of fresh fruit or vegetables.  If you could count pizza and chocolate that would obviously make it a whole lot easier! 

However, the main problem for people is not knowing how much constitutes a portion!  Then periodically different "experts" say it needs to be more than five - or that it should be just vegetables because there's too much sugar in fruit.  And for the purposes of the campaign a potato is not a vegetable.  ::)
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Post by: Janet Jaguar on 30 October 2014, 12:33:14
Big thing here too - First Lady Michelle Obama took that on as her 'thing' that the president wouldn't have to worry about.  Got all kinds of gov't agencies cooperating without being given much authority.  And she got the Food Pyramid replaces with the Food Circle - shows not only food types but size of serving on an average sized dinner plate.  Set up a huge fuss because parents let their kids bring their own garbage food they wanted to eat instead of insisting they try the alternative.  Some people are allergic to both change and gov't guidelines I guess.

The School Day Just Got Healthier (http://www.fns.usda.gov/healthierschoolday)

Choose My Plate (http://www.choosemyplate.gov/)

(http://www.choosemyplate.gov/images/MyPlateImages/JPG/myplate_green.jpg)
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Post by: Helen J on 30 October 2014, 13:00:52
We had the same thing happening in schools.  There was a famous example which made the news; the school meals were changed to make them healthier, and parents were arriving at lunchtime with distinctly unhealthy lunches which they were passing through the fence of the playground to their children.
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Post by: tastiger on 30 October 2014, 17:27:19
Big thing here too - First Lady Michelle Obama took that on as her 'thing' that the president wouldn't have to worry about.  Got all kinds of gov't agencies cooperating without being given much authority.  And she got the Food Pyramid replaces with the Food Circle - shows not only food types but size of serving on an average sized dinner plate.  Set up a huge fuss because parents let their kids bring their own garbage food they wanted to eat instead of insisting they try the alternative.  Some people are allergic to both change and gov't guidelines I guess.

The School Day Just Got Healthier (http://www.fns.usda.gov/healthierschoolday)

Choose My Plate (http://www.choosemyplate.gov/)

(http://www.choosemyplate.gov/images/MyPlateImages/JPG/myplate_green.jpg)

That's a touchy subject at my old school. One of the things our study body used to take pride in was on the A La Carte (aka optional and a separate charge than the regular meals) there were these huge, gooey cookies that everyone loved, and for some reason those had to be taken away because kids can't even be given an option I guess...

Most of the people just throw out the healthy parts of the meals and/or go to the McDonald's across the road since our school has an open campus policy. An example of a government policy doing the opposite of what was intended. :P
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 31 October 2014, 00:14:03
Happy Samhain when the night comes around.
And for Hanibal
Cu' Chulainn going into battle in the Ta'in Bo' Cu'ailnge, which was said to have begun at Samhain.

Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 31 October 2014, 00:35:53
Hope all the ghosts that come around us are littles asking for candy.  :)

(http://melikedesign.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/the-witches-new-year-samhain-halloween.jpg)

Google has 6 Doodles this time, they come up at random.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 31 October 2014, 01:46:03
Already had my first lot of ankle biters looking for treats.
No fancy dress, no treats.
Baa Humbug.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 31 October 2014, 02:02:15
if they are too stingy to put on a costume, give them only 1 small piece each. :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Hanibal94 on 31 October 2014, 03:18:46
Or give them fruit instead. That's what some old people here in Germany used to do when I went candy-hunting with my pals.
They claimed they didn't celebrate Halloween - only Reformation Day. Dinosaurs!
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: jules on 31 October 2014, 11:07:18
Just wondered if anyone had already posted this? GPS back-up: World War Two technology employed (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-29758872)
I did search and nothing came up. It's quite interesting from an OW point of view. It's about a backup navigational system using a series of long-range radio waves for when GPS fails. It's on the BBC site so apologies if it's blocked for some people.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Craig on 31 October 2014, 11:43:32
That's very interesting, Jules. A GPS failure now would be a much greater challenge than the Y2K bug 14 years ago. But you can bet that most organizations won't react until there's a massive failure.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: propriome on 31 October 2014, 11:44:34
Hi jules,

Very interesting!
Unalga II has transported a lot of material and men to Alaska during 1946 and 1947 for the building and maintenance of the first Loran Stations.

There's a lot of material over the internet, starting with:
- the wiki page: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LORAN
- the US Coast Guard page: http://www.uscg.mil/history/stations/loran_index.asp
- a dedicated site with a lot of historical background information: http://www.loran-history.info/

Some of these stations were still in use in 2000 even if their usage had declined drastically in favor of GPS.
 
I didn't know it has been decided for their re-employ as a backup for the GPS system, and it's indeed a good idea. I've programmed a little with gps devices and where there's no fix, well... there's nothing you can do except waiting for a couple to satellites to become visible...

Thanks for sharing!  :)

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A GPS failure now would be a much greater challenge than the Y2K bug 14 years ago
And it could happen soon or later... mantaining those 32 satellites (leaving apart the russian Glonass and the upcoming European constellation) is very very expensive. Continuous cuts on budget means their precision will start degrading (well before the satellite is brought down or turned off).
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Randi on 31 October 2014, 16:54:16
Hi, szukacz!
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 31 October 2014, 16:56:28
We've been having gale force northerly winds coming down the whole 300 mile length of Lake Michigan today, and the Lake is indeed angry.  Lake effect snow flurries in places, and very gusty cold weather (32-38F all day).  Parts of Lake Shore Drive and the 18 mile lake front biking trail are shut down due to flooding - we are on the Lake's ancient bed and sometimes it tries to reclaim the land.  An interesting day for taking kids out in costumes.  The pictures are from online, I personally am not going that near the lake today.  Too wet, cold and angry for me.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Randi on 31 October 2014, 17:28:38
Brr !
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Michael on 31 October 2014, 20:12:24
Lots of little goblins around Victoria tonight. Sadly, for them, I don't live up to my neighbour Bruce. When I went trick or treating to his house, I always got a beer.  :) :) :) :) :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: elizabeth on 31 October 2014, 20:29:23
 :) It seems they have closed downtown Santa Cruz to car traffic. So people can show off there costumes and party. A couple of blocks away.  :-\ Of course it finally decided to rain. So I think I will stay in and work on some weather reports and enjoy a glass of adult refreshment.  ::)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Michael on 31 October 2014, 20:43:07
I'm waiting until all the little people are finished for the night. Then I'll join you in imbibing. I'm hoping there will be potato chips left over, which is likely. It's a lovely evening, fairly mild (10C / 50F )and no wind or rain. Even so, after one hour, only five little ones so far...
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: elizabeth on 31 October 2014, 21:55:00
I'm waiting until all the little people are finished for the night. Then I'll join you in imbibing. I'm hoping there will be potato chips left over, which is likely. It's a lovely evening, fairly mild (10C / 50F )and no wind or rain. Even so, after one hour, only five little ones so far...
Did you say potato chips?  Oh well ok.  Just before it got dark I zoomed to the store to get some candy just in case some of the kids would come around.  ::) I know from past episodes if I did not they would come in numbers. LOL  ;D (when I had no candy to give out I would give out Quarters.  :o Can not let the little ones go away without nothing) but so far the only kid I got was my son who did not even say trick or treat when he grabbed up one the the pieces.  ::)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 31 October 2014, 22:01:41
I've lived my whole adult life in upper apartments in locked buildings.  Large majority know they are not allowed in AND its going to take some real work to get in anyway.  The minority that doesn't care about rules or effort knows absolutely no one in those apartments has stocked up on candy.   ::)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Michael on 31 October 2014, 22:14:56
That's OK. Two hours in and the rush has died down. Got 8 days of OW done, and I still have 15 bags of potato chips left. I'll man the door for another hour, but I need to know, is a three year old Livermore Valley Cab-Sav the appropriate pairing for potato chips?  :-\
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: elizabeth on 31 October 2014, 22:18:36
 :) When I was a kid ..... yes yes a long time ago. We would dress up and go out with our pillow cases (holds more candy) and hit the rich neighborhoods. More candy that way ::)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 31 October 2014, 22:29:33
My childhood neighborhood was middle class professional, not rich.  But it was a new subdivision busting with young families with kids - no one would shame their own younglings by failing to stock up, and mom always threw a party for our friends and came up with a spook house that was scary only if you went thru blindfolded.  I mean, tell them "eyeballs" and let them feel a bowl of peeled grapes.  We always had a horde of stranger-kids milking the abundance.  Fun memories.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: jil on 01 November 2014, 01:37:51
Warmest UK Halloween on record (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-29851285) - not quite that warm 'up north' but it was still 17C at about 9pm (which I think is warmer than several days in August). But despite that no little visitors - yeah!

I was sat in the back with no lights showing at the front of the house.  ::) Grumpy, me? Trick or Treating is a fairly recent thing in the UK, so I may be sulking that I didn't have the opportunity for the massive intake of sweets when I was little.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Randi on 01 November 2014, 08:27:06
WWI Coronel: An unlikely naval battle remembered (http://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-29857302)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: studentforever on 01 November 2014, 09:34:47
I worked on several RN ships who sailed in that area and in the aftermath of the Battle these ships marked the Battle as they passed Coronel. Sometimes they put a wreath in the water, usually they brought the colours to half-mast for some minutes. The dead were not forgotten by their comrades.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Craig on 02 November 2014, 07:47:23
Today is the longest day of the year, in Canada at least. 25 hours!  I may even have two breakfasts to celebrate. Well, maybe only a 2nd cup of tea  ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 02 November 2014, 10:03:49
It does feel nice, that extra hour of sleep.  And now we are back in balance with Europe.  (Poor Australians et al got shortened instead!)  ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 02 November 2014, 15:15:42
I get mixed up between AU & GB time as it varies from +9 to +11 at different times of the year.   :-[
I tend to use UTC when overseas and I am trying to match times up, especially with my camera and GPS.   8)

Hayfever time down under.   :'(
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Dean on 02 November 2014, 17:01:39
For those with time issues.......

The first is for 'Eternal youth'  the second is Dali.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Hanibal94 on 03 November 2014, 01:22:22
Don't forget the one for beer drinkers:

(http://rlv.zcache.co.uk/always_5_oclock_somewhere_cork_coaster_set_of_6-rf04ba1a2b9214dc0a4b00c721b8e97b7_ambkq_8byvr_512.jpg)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Caro on 03 November 2014, 03:27:08
Good morning from GMT.
Dark, rainy day ahead, 10C. I think summer has finally gone.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Hanibal94 on 03 November 2014, 08:18:26
HAPPY 60th BIRTHDAY, GODZILLA!

(http://mykaiju.com/images/blog/mykaiju_mini_poster.jpg)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 03 November 2014, 11:45:41
Happy Birthday, Godzilla!  Enjoy your cake!

(http://media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/fd/22/90/fd22909947f4d4d95c944fab5ec75501.jpg)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Randi on 04 November 2014, 06:41:46
Melting ice forces walrus detour (https://www.sciencenews.org/article/melting-ice-forces-walrus-detour)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Craig on 04 November 2014, 07:22:51
It's hard to know if those making the comments to this article are just right-wing ideologues but according to them this is not a new phenomenon.

Regardless, it's quite a sight  8)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Michael on 04 November 2014, 18:50:25
First batch of Christmas cakes made. Two more batches to go (I have three different recipes). I've no idea how this new oven will work out, and I have to wait two years until I will find out. (The cakes are much better after soaking in rum for two years or more.) Me too!  ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 04 November 2014, 20:06:26
That does sound impressive.  :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Craig on 05 November 2014, 05:54:53
I hope you made some 2 years ago as well, Michael.  ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Caro on 05 November 2014, 06:24:42
Three rum-soaked Christmas cakes and seven Christmas puddings are maturing quietly in my larder.  :)

Hi Liz!
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: elizabeth on 05 November 2014, 06:39:39
Three rum-soaked Christmas cakes and seven Christmas puddings are maturing quietly in my larder.  :)

Hi Liz!
:o Just how long do they take to mature?? Cakes and puddings oh my! Of course you will be sharing some with your shipmates ;D ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Hanibal94 on 05 November 2014, 06:49:05
None for me, thanks. I don't take any alcohol, not even in cake form.
Besides, I'll be visiting my grandmother for Christmas - and we all know that grannies are the best at making tasty baked goods, right?
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Randi on 05 November 2014, 07:53:43
You bet!
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Caro on 05 November 2014, 08:53:54
:o Just how long do they take to mature?? Cakes and puddings oh my! Of course you will be sharing some with your shipmates ;D ;)

I keep cakes for three months, puddings for two months. Plenty for all. 
Alcohol in the cake/pudding mixture is 'cooked' out, leaving only the flavour.
Adding more alcohol to cakes after cooking is a matter of taste.  ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: elizabeth on 05 November 2014, 09:09:29
:o Just how long do they take to mature?? Cakes and puddings oh my! Of course you will be sharing some with your shipmates ;D ;)

I keep cakes for three months, puddings for two months. Plenty for all. 
Alcohol in the cake/pudding mixture is 'cooked' out, leaving only the flavour.
Adding more alcohol to cakes after cooking is a matter of taste.  ;)
:) I see my burning question here is when can we get a taste?  ::)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: elizabeth on 05 November 2014, 09:10:48
None for me, thanks. I don't take any alcohol, not even in cake form.
Besides, I'll be visiting my grandmother for Christmas - and we all know that grannies are the best at making tasty baked goods, right?
To me this is a know fact!
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Michael on 05 November 2014, 10:28:08
I hope you made some 2 years ago as well, Michael.  ;D

I have a couple that are four years old, and seven that are three years old. I am making cakes only every other year now. If more shipmates help me eat them, I'll go back to making them every year, but my move from Whitehorse reduced the number of cake fanatics who would regularly descend upon my house at this time of year demanding cake.  :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 05 November 2014, 13:51:44
Michael.
Can we have Xmas in September?
Stuart.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Craig on 05 November 2014, 16:15:52
I was thinking you could offer a mail-order service for you cakes, Michael. You could send them to friends and customers by Canada Post. This would guarantee that they would be well aged when the arrived.  ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 05 November 2014, 17:12:20
US Postal Service would aid the aging process.  ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Randi on 05 November 2014, 17:18:03
So would the French postal service ::)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Michael on 05 November 2014, 18:23:25
I just finished batch number two. They are still hot from the oven and the house smells WONDERFUL. In an hour or so, they lucky cakes will get their half cup of rum each. I will have to wait for eight bells on the first watch, but the Commanding Officer will not allow me a half cup of rum  :'(
 This recipe is from Max Ferguson, whose name will be familiar only to those of us old enough to have listened to CBC from the fifties to the mid-seventies.

To answer Stuart's question, the oldest cakes get unleashed upon the world when the third and final batch are baked, soaked and stored away waiting for the next US presidential election.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 05 November 2014, 18:47:35
Don't blame our elections for making them or campaign workers will be coming up there and collecting all their rewards before you can east them at Christmas.  :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 05 November 2014, 19:12:27
...........
To answer Stuart's question, the oldest cakes get unleashed upon the world when the third and final batch are baked, soaked and stored away waiting for the next US presidential election.

Will that be to celebrate (enjoy the cake) or commiserate (enjoy the alcohol in the cake) after the election?   
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Michael on 05 November 2014, 19:13:52
That depends on who's doing the eating...
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 05 November 2014, 21:20:21
It's likely to be a 2 room party, winners and losers.   8)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Michael on 05 November 2014, 21:22:11
Here it is, waiting for it's slug of rum and a two year hibernation... Even if you're not here to partake of a three year old cake in the next two months, enjoy the thought.  :)

Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Michael on 05 November 2014, 21:45:39
Conditions at Iloilo City, Philippines Now and Then:

5:00 A.M. Nov 6, 2014
Temp:     80 F
Wet bulb: 77 F
Humidity: 88%
Wind:     NE 11 mph
Pressure: 29.88"

5:00 A.M. Nov 6, 1898 from USS Concord
Temp:     78 F
Wet bulb: 78 F
Humidity: 100%
Wind:     NNE 5 mph
Pressure: 29.89"


I guess this proves there's no such thing as global warming: we've lost two degree Fahrenheit in the last 116 years.  ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 05 November 2014, 22:40:44
Nice one XO
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Hanibal94 on 06 November 2014, 01:26:29
You do know what global means, yes Michael?  ;)
Stuff like that is why I personally use the term climate change instead.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Randi on 06 November 2014, 02:06:11
Conditions at Iloilo City, Philippines Now and Then:

5:00 A.M. Nov 6, 2014
Temp:     80 F
Wet bulb: 77 F
Humidity: 88%
Wind:     NE 11 mph
Pressure: 29.88"

5:00 A.M. Nov 6, 1898 from USS Concord
Temp:     78 F
Wet bulb: 78 F
Humidity: 100%
Wind:     NNE 5 mph
Pressure: 29.89"


I guess this proves there's no such thing as global warming: we've lost two degree Fahrenheit in the last 116 years.  ;D

 :-[ Lost? - I am lost. Was 78 is 80?
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Randi on 06 November 2014, 02:08:24
You do know what global means, yes Michael?  ;)
Stuff like that is why I personally use the term climate change instead.
And, climate change covers the fact that warming (overall) is not the only change occurring.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Craig on 06 November 2014, 10:10:36
I am sure Michael was just joking  ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Michael on 06 November 2014, 10:20:06
I am sure Michael was just joking  ;)

Of course I was just joking! As someone who lived in the Yukon for over twenty years, climate change was dramatic and obvious. Also, it was 78F in 1898 and it was 80F in 2014!!! (I was just modelling the kind of person that completely twists the facts to suit "my" own purpose. too subtle, I guess!)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Hanibal94 on 06 November 2014, 11:13:27
You did alright - any less subtle, and the mods would have exterminated your post and given you a smack  ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Caro on 06 November 2014, 11:25:17
I will ignore that slur on our totally non-violent moderating skills.
Here is a pic I found of last year's Christmas cake.  :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Helen J on 06 November 2014, 12:12:05
Very impressive cake, Caro.  And of course all the moderators are entirely saintly and non-violent (and generous with their cakes?)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Hanibal94 on 06 November 2014, 12:44:49
The New York Magazine just did an amazing article on why adult men like My Little Ponies.
I am very impressed - the author does a great job of explaining why bronies like me exist in the first place, and what this whole pony business is about anyway. And they do it all while maintaining an objective, insult-free tone, unlike some media.
Here's the link: http://nymag.com/thecut/2014/11/understanding-the-cult-of-my-little-pony.html
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Randi on 06 November 2014, 12:51:18
Very impressive cake, Caro.  And of course all the moderators are entirely saintly and non-violent (and generous with their cakes?)
Are you trying to say that I am not a moderator?
 ;D
(You probably wouldn't want me to be generous with my cooking :P)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Helen J on 06 November 2014, 13:33:14
Very impressive cake, Caro.  And of course all the moderators are entirely saintly and non-violent (and generous with their cakes?)
Are you trying to say that I am not a moderator?
 ;D
(You probably wouldn't want me to be generous with my cooking :P)

Perish the thought!  I'm sure you are saintly and non-violent - even if your cooking is less than wonderful ....  ???
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Randi on 06 November 2014, 13:38:17
The New York Magazine just did an amazing article on why adult men like My Little Ponies.
I am very impressed - the author does a great job of explaining why bronies like me exist in the first place, and what this whole pony business is about anyway. And they do it all while maintaining an objective, insult-free tone, unlike some media.
Here's the link: http://nymag.com/thecut/2014/11/understanding-the-cult-of-my-little-pony.html

Interesting article.
"the idea that a small, committed band of friends can change the world"
It certainly needs changing :(

Well, we OWaholics are trying ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Helen J on 06 November 2014, 14:24:00
The New York Magazine just did an amazing article on why adult men like My Little Ponies.
I am very impressed - the author does a great job of explaining why bronies like me exist in the first place, and what this whole pony business is about anyway. And they do it all while maintaining an objective, insult-free tone, unlike some media.
Here's the link: http://nymag.com/thecut/2014/11/understanding-the-cult-of-my-little-pony.html

Really interesting article, hanibal - thanks for posting the link.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Michael on 06 November 2014, 15:04:30
Conditions at Iloilo City, Philippines Now and Then:

5:00 A.M. Nov 6, 2014
Temp:     80 F
Wet bulb: 77 F
Humidity: 88%
Wind:     NE 11 mph
Pressure: 29.88"

5:00 A.M. Nov 6, 1898 from USS Concord
Temp:     78 F
Wet bulb: 78 F
Humidity: 100%
Wind:     NNE 5 mph
Pressure: 29.89"


I guess this proves there's no such thing as global warming: we've lost two degree Fahrenheit in the last 116 years.  ;D

 :-[ Lost? - I am lost. Was 78 is 80?

Randi gets ONE HUNDRED POINTS for being the only one to notice that I was going from Now to Then, which is how we "lost" two degrees. Had I put them Then to Now, it would have been clear that we have indeed warmed two degrees. Mind you, using just two weather observations doesn't prove anything as several of you noted. Still, how one orders the data can fool some people, though not Randi, and saying going back in time we lost two degrees is really saying going ahead in time we gained two degrees.

I was thinking this because we had a visitor for several days who doesn't believe in climate warming because she read "Clan of the Cave Bear" and the climate wasn't different in that book from what it is now - and yes she was serious!

Anyway, on a more meaningful note, the last batch of cakes is in the oven... (Note: these cakes contain alcohol, wheat, eggs, nuts, and artificial colours and flavours. That's why they're so good and so good for you!)

But enough of cakes and climate change. I've got a ton of mixing bowls, kitchen implements and counters etc to clean, and then back to Iloilo City in the Philippines on the Concord.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 06 November 2014, 15:09:21
Yummmmmmm
 :D
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Randi on 06 November 2014, 15:27:53
Randi gets ONE HUNDRED POINTS for being the only one to notice that I was going from Now to Then, which is how we "lost" two degrees. Had I put them Then to Now, it would have been clear that we have indeed warmed two degrees. Mind you, using just two weather observations doesn't prove anything as several of you noted. Still, how one orders the data can fool some people, though not Randi, and saying going back in time we lost two degrees is really saying going ahead in time we gained two degrees.
:-*

Cake looks good - even to a teatotaler ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 06 November 2014, 22:18:39
Found this Citizen Scientist project (https://www.facebook.com/NASAEarthObservatory/photos/a.10150660751157139.441503.57242657138/10152852536417139/?type=1) on Facebook; as volunteer jobs go, it's very short and easy and the project is likely to be short-lived.  They want citizens to find out exactly when satellites are taking bird's-eye views of clouds and send them a reciprocal worm's-eye view or description of the same clouds so they can better their reading of the satellite photos.  The site is specifically set up for classes of K to 12 school children, but they run a parallel set of reporting for "rover" citizen scientists to be used by rogue adults that like looking at the sky.  I found it very much easier than I thought.  Just know which 5 to 15 minutes of the day to go cloud gazing and snap a photo with my phone.  When I get home, fill in a report describing the photo and attach the pic to the report, 3 to 5 minutes tops.  Fun.  :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Caro on 07 November 2014, 04:27:57
In other cloud news, this 'cigar cloud', usually only seen in the Gulf of Mexico and Gulf of Carpentaria, appeared last weekend in the Riverina region of NSW, Australia, far from the coast.

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xfp1/v/t1.0-9/10444627_846935068660012_3967876125331009593_n.jpg?oh=6337dc48a3f0394a49005eba7f286cfb&oe=54EEB527&__gda__=1425144750_35da0014fc2d1e799b8928611b33c5d2)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Helen J on 07 November 2014, 11:22:42
Woo hoo!  That is a stunning cloud, and I absolutely cannot imagine how nature manages to produce such a thing - isn't she wonderful?
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Hanibal94 on 07 November 2014, 18:52:11
Got a nice bit of news, people - today, I broke my own record for "fastest time to complete a 24 WR page".
The old record was 3 minutes and six seconds, the new one is 3 minutes and two seconds.

Hmm... I wonder if I can get it down to less than 3 minutes?
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Michael on 07 November 2014, 19:50:46
Got a nice bit of news, people - today, I broke my own record for "fastest time to complete a 24 WR page".
The old record was 3 minutes and six seconds, the new one is 3 minutes and two seconds.

Hmm... I wonder if I can get it down to less than 3 minutes?

You can do it, Hanibal. I have faith in you!
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 09 November 2014, 15:00:22
Let us remember the loss of the SS Edmond Fitzgerald (10 Nov)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Danny252 on 09 November 2014, 15:41:09
There's quite a bit of OW transcribing going on here tonight - I'm quite upset that I seem to have the less interesting logbook, though!

(http://i.imgur.com/IVgjeHEl.jpg)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 09 November 2014, 15:46:53
Let us remember the loss of the SS Edmond Fitzgerald (10 Nov)
An interesting collage of that wreck with ballad. https://www.youtube.com/embed/hgI8bta-7aw
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 09 November 2014, 16:00:53
There's quite a bit of OW transcribing going on here tonight - I'm quite upset that I seem to have the less interesting logbook, though!

(http://i.imgur.com/IVgjeHEl.jpg)

Come to the Concord and you will never complain about your current logs again.  %^)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 09 November 2014, 16:09:06
Let us remember the loss of the SS Edmond Fitzgerald (10 Nov)
An interesting collage of that wreck with ballad. https://www.youtube.com/embed/hgI8bta-7aw

Whilst I like the ballad, I do have trouble picking out some of the words especially around the middle of it.
Video shows ships name underwater the right way up and ends with it upside down ?

RIP
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 09 November 2014, 16:41:05
Expeditions (http://www.ssefo.com/info/expeditions.html) determined she broke in half on the surface and the halves sank separately.  I'm guessing it was the right-side-up and right-side-down difference that gave them that insight.  She was the largest ore freighter on the lakes, and I'm guessing that after her wreck no one else tried to replicate that size.  The Lakes can be very dangerous.

ADDED: Gordon Lightfoot has a distinctly Canadian accent - it gives me some difficulties, but not as much so as British or Australian accents.  Part of a global community, everyone has to guess a bit at pronunciations.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Michael on 09 November 2014, 19:01:03
Gordon Lightfoot has a distinctly Canadian accent - it gives me some difficulties
(http://www.ssefo.com/info/expeditions.html)
Interesting. I don't have any trouble at all with his accent; in fact, I didn't think he even had an accent!   ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 09 November 2014, 19:55:10
 :P
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 09 November 2014, 23:13:54
That's because your native accent doesn't come from Chicago.  Everyone has an accent!!
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Caro on 10 November 2014, 03:19:37
A short guide to some of the many British and Irish accents (https://www.youtube.com/embed/-8mzWkuOxz8) ...  ;D





Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: h.kohler on 10 November 2014, 03:29:06
 ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 10 November 2014, 04:45:31
Love it. How smooth from one to the other.


You could try some of these if you were really interested.
 English spok proper  (http://www.dialectsarchive.com/england)

This is closest to mine.
https://www.youtube.com/embed/2WbbZMnc48E

Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Hanibal94 on 10 November 2014, 12:35:14
Got a nice bit of news, people - today, I broke my own record for "fastest time to complete a 24 WR page".
The old record was 3 minutes and six seconds, the new one is 3 minutes and two seconds.

Hmm... I wonder if I can get it down to less than 3 minutes?

I did it! I broke my record and got it down to less than 3 minutes!
My new record is: 2 minutes and 43 seconds for a 24 WR page.

Oh, and I made a few typos that I had to correct while doing this, so I could do it even faster....
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Helen J on 10 November 2014, 12:36:46
Wow!  Perhaps this should become an Olympic sport ....  :D
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: elizabeth on 11 November 2014, 07:49:39
Wow!  Perhaps this should become an Olympic sport ....  :D
;D LOL
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Randi on 11 November 2014, 07:53:25
Yes! We need an Olympic sport where all the competitors help each other!
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Helen J on 11 November 2014, 12:10:28
And which can be done sitting down and normally dressed!
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Kathy on 11 November 2014, 13:29:08
Some great pictures -

http://mentalfloss.com/article/59985/11-dramatic-photos-world-war-i
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: JamesAPrattIII on 11 November 2014, 16:17:47
Besides the first picture it looks like the 6th the German Attack at Verdun and the 7th the French attack were also faked. Note in the last picture showing the room where Tsar Nicholas II and family were murdered it looks so torn up because it was taken after the investigators dug the bullets out of the walls. They didn't bother to take a picture before they tore the walls up to get the bullets out. Just thought you would like to know.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 12 November 2014, 02:22:31
I gives an idea of the tragic lose when put this way
 Poppys (http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-11-12/final-poppy-planted-in-tower-of-london-wwi-memorial/5884080)


On a lighter note.
Good luck to Philae at 1530 GMT today.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Caro on 12 November 2014, 02:43:35
Morning OW.

Yes indeed; good luck Rosetta and little Philae.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-30012854
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: AvastMH on 12 November 2014, 04:53:45
Gosh - wow! Went to the European Space Agency website to look in - you can see the main control room via live webcam...and you can listen to the 'song' of the comet. 8) One comment about the song made me laugh - 'Still sounds better than Justin Beber'. There's a short salutation from William Shatner for those who are covert Trekkies.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 12 November 2014, 10:37:52
Anybody else watching this live?
About 30 min to touch down. Not much happening (in fact it's boring) yet but just wait.
http://new.livestream.com/ESA/cometlanding

In the mean time I am watching the Rosetta #CometLanding webcast Separation Confirmation Received on Ground video which is to me very interesting when you get past the tweets bit.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 12 November 2014, 11:11:12
EESA, The eagle Philae has landed.  :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 12 November 2014, 11:17:53
Cool!!
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Randi on 12 November 2014, 11:18:39
Wonderful !
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: elizabeth on 12 November 2014, 11:35:22
 ;D AWESOME!
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Caro on 12 November 2014, 12:09:14
Phew! Great news.  ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: jil on 12 November 2014, 12:15:51
Amazing achievement!
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Hanibal94 on 12 November 2014, 12:26:59
Woohoo!
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: AvastMH on 12 November 2014, 13:08:42
Breathtaking achievement 8) 8) 8) 8) 8)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Helen J on 12 November 2014, 13:10:20
Just mindboggling!
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 12 November 2014, 15:28:27
Take a look at these pics from earlier in the mission, they will give you some idea how hard it was to land the craft safely.
Change the last number down by 1 to end up at 1 to see all 10 pics
http://www.esa.int/spaceinimages/Images/2014/11/NAVCAM_top_10_at_10_km_10 (http://www.esa.int/spaceinimages/Images/2014/11/NAVCAM_top_10_at_10_km_10)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Caro on 13 November 2014, 04:56:00
Tweet.  :)

Philae Lander ‏@Philae2014

Hello! An update on life on #67P - Yesterday was exhausting! I actually performed 3 landings, 15:33, 17:26 & 17:33 UTC. Stay tuned for more
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 13 November 2014, 05:15:01
Tweet.  :)

Philae Lander ‏@Philae2014

Hello! An update on life on #67P - Yesterday was exhausting! I actually performed 3 landings, 15:33, 17:26 & 17:33 UTC. Stay tuned for more


Do you mean 'Hang on for more data'?
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: AvastMH on 13 November 2014, 06:38:22
But I wish there were not 10 million displaced Syrian refugees....exciting as Philae is - should we be spending the cash elsewhere...educating ourselves into a better world society?  :-\
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: studentforever on 13 November 2014, 06:50:25
If I could be sure that the money would go to alleviate the problem rather than in the pockets of corrupt officials I would feel happier about putting the money for big science into aid. But remember, the go ahead for this project was more than 15 years ago, it's been on its way for 10 years and unfortunately with big science you have to either find the money or decide that it will never be done.

As it is, I enjoy the pics and admire those scientists and engineers who have the perseverance and patience to embark on a 20 year project and look forward to hearing from those young researchers who will kick off their careers working on the data which will come back from both Philae and Rosetta.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Craig on 13 November 2014, 07:20:32
It does seem that we need a diversion from the terrible conflicts that plague the world. As difficult as it was to accomplish the Rosetta feat, solving human conflicts (or climate change) is infinitely more difficult. The Middle East conflicts go back at least to the decisions made after WW 1. Any intervention there seems to be doomed to failure. In my opinion, the best we can do is to provide humanitarian aid and even that is getting terribly risky for those on the ground.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: AvastMH on 13 November 2014, 09:39:29
I agree with both your replies.
It's a real puzzler.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Caro on 14 November 2014, 04:47:31
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B2WU4LVIcAASDWg.jpg:small)

Small circle, the intended landing place.
Large circle, where Philae bounced to...   :o
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 14 November 2014, 05:30:55
They will just have to cope and find a way to keep it there and broadcasting.  Having landed intact is still a marvelous thing.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: AvastMH on 14 November 2014, 09:35:48
I really do hope they find a solution for Philae...it would be an agony to lose a lot of tests due to the shadow problem.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Danny252 on 14 November 2014, 09:55:40
I've heard it mentioned that they might put most of the lander's functions to sleep for a while, until the comet is closer to the Sun. At that point, they'll be getting more sunlight on the panels (up to about 7 times more), even if the amount of time spent facing the sun is the same.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Thursday Next on 14 November 2014, 10:51:35
But I wish there were not 10 million displaced Syrian refugees....exciting as Philae is - should we be spending the cash elsewhere...educating ourselves into a better world society?  :-\

I just think anyone who is trying to make the world a better place one way or another should be supported, and we all have different ideas about what causes are the most "important".  What does upset me is knowing that there are wealthy individuals and corporations who pay virtually no tax to anybody and are not making the contribution they ought to be.  And also that the world has known about Ebola for 40 years, but almost nothing has been done about developing a vaccine until now because it had previously only affected a few, very impoverished, African countries so there was no profit there for the drugs companies.  (Hope the moderators will not think I am not getting too political!)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Danny252 on 14 November 2014, 11:14:52
I've heard it mentioned that they might put most of the lander's functions to sleep for a while, until the comet is closer to the Sun. At that point, they'll be getting more sunlight on the panels (up to about 7 times more), even if the amount of time spent facing the sun is the same.

Although having said that, the latest news is that they're going "all out"!
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Craig on 14 November 2014, 11:44:01
A bird in the hand is worth two in the bush is probably their thinking. They really do want to drill to get a sample and chances are that if they wait the lander will be knocked off the comet. Of course, drilling could send the lander spinning.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Randi on 14 November 2014, 12:12:31
But I wish there were not 10 million displaced Syrian refugees....exciting as Philae is - should we be spending the cash elsewhere...educating ourselves into a better world society?  :-\

I just think anyone who is trying to make the world a better place one way or another should be supported, and we all have different ideas about what causes are the most "important".  What does upset me is knowing that there are wealthy individuals and corporations who pay virtually no tax to anybody and are not making the contribution they ought to be.  And also that the world has known about Ebola for 40 years, but almost nothing has been done about developing a vaccine until now because it had previously only affected a few, very impoverished, African countries so there was no profit there for the drugs companies.  (Hope the moderators will not think I am not getting too political!)

I think we moderators, not being wealthy individuals, agree with you ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Randi on 14 November 2014, 13:58:23
I was struggling with reading a place name on a log page... Just as I found it neatly printed further down on the page, I woke up :P
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Hanibal94 on 14 November 2014, 15:30:39
A bird in the hand is worth two in the bush is probably their thinking. They really do want to drill to get a sample and chances are that if they wait the lander will be knocked off the comet. Of course, drilling could send the lander spinning.

Looks like they've decided to take the risk: http://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-30055383
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Kathy on 14 November 2014, 15:47:06
Oh Randi, that is so sad  ;D  :o

As far as landing on a comet - I am not unmindful of the horrific plight of Africa or the Middle East.  But...I look on Philae as a point of light in the darkness.  Going to Mars, or landing on the moon, costs billions of dollars, and one could argue that those billions could be spent on the enormous problems facing us here on this other small point of light in the darkness.  The thing is, there have always been and will always be enormous problems facing us, but we also need Philae.  Philae lifts us out of the mundane, and while it may be corny, I think these sorts of things show our better natures, gives us hope for ourselves, and maybe, just maybe, lead us to a time when we look back on this time and rejoice that it has passed.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 14 November 2014, 15:51:08
That was very profound Kathy. (but I do agree)
 ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Randi on 14 November 2014, 16:11:52
Beautifully put, Kathy!
It describes my feelings perfectly.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Hanibal94 on 14 November 2014, 16:25:48
Wow - that was really good, Kathy! Thanks!
I wish I was that good with words.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: AvastMH on 14 November 2014, 16:31:03
Wise words Kathy, wise words :) :) :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 14 November 2014, 18:30:17
Kathy, you put into words exactly why this whole experience fascinates.  It feeds a very deep need.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: studentforever on 15 November 2014, 00:32:27
Well, Philae has gone to sleep but apparently some raw data from the drilling has been received. So the scientists are pleased that they have achieved one of their big objectives - we'll have to wait a bit for the analysis.  They hope that as the comet gets closer to the sun it may allow Philae to get enough power in its batteries to wake up again but no-one is sure if that will work.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-30058176

Rosetta is still able to get and send back data though so once the comet starts to warm up enough to outgas and form its 'tail' we should get some more fascinating data. All in all it has been a successful mission with lots more still to come (they hope).
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 15 November 2014, 09:10:33
Remarkable success.  Fascinating to keep track of.  :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Helen J on 17 November 2014, 12:13:27
There was an interesting programme on last night on BBC4, on the Rosetta project and especially on Philae's landing and what's been achieved.  It was co-presented by Chris Lintott.  Available on the BBC IPlayer for 29 days.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b04pkvpq/the-sky-at-night-rosetta-a-sky-at-night-special
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Dean on 18 November 2014, 08:09:23
There was an interesting programme on last night on BBC4, on the Rosetta project and especially on Philae's landing and what's been achieved.  It was co-presented by Chris Lintott.  Available on the BBC IPlayer for 29 days.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b04pkvpq/the-sky-at-night-rosetta-a-sky-at-night-special

Tried but found that these programmes are ONLY available in the UK. They 'track' your ISP so everything is 'locked' except to UK Internet Service Providers.   :-[
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: AvastMH on 18 November 2014, 08:37:23
Has anyone ever tried downloading the bbc progs to see if that allows them to be more available? I suspect this won't work due to the licensing situation. Just thought to ask though.  :(
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Maikel on 18 November 2014, 10:06:13
Try and find an UK based fast and free proxy server.
Not always easy to find one though.
(Temporarily) Set this proxy in your browser and Aunty thinks you're based in Britain.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Hanibal94 on 18 November 2014, 12:21:53
I just found a free extension called Hola Better Internet that lets you use a proxy server to get around these pesky local restrictions.
Took a couple reloads and retries, but it works - I'm watching the Rosetta mission right now, and I live nowhere near the UK (INSERT EVIL LAUGHTER HERE)!
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 18 November 2014, 12:27:42
Interesting - I've never before even thought about how to do such things myself.  Do I need an extension, or are there ways of telling my browser what to do?

Just don't try to be doing that while registering first time on a forum requiring human moderator authorization - we tend to treat such as spammers in disguise, along with those who have disposable email addresses, and block them on principle.   8)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Hanibal94 on 18 November 2014, 13:28:18
My way is to just find a free extension and let it do all the work.
As I said, the one I have is Hola Better Internet, it's working very well for me so far.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Helen J on 18 November 2014, 13:46:28
Sorry to have tantalised those of you beyond these shores with forbidden fruit - but glad that at least one techie member of the Forum has managed to find a way round the restrictions!
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Dean on 18 November 2014, 14:21:05
Talk about vagaries of living near the lakes...

I just was out raking leaves. HOWEVER 10-12 miles (20km) to the south they are dealing with blizzard conditions, driving bans, and 3 to 6 foot (1 - 2 m) snows. Drifts are reported to be twice that!  This one is NOT a 'surprise' as they have been forecasting it for several days.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Hanibal94 on 18 November 2014, 18:18:07
Sorry to have tantalised those of you beyond these shores with forbidden fruit - but glad that at least one techie member of the Forum has managed to find a way round the restrictions!

Yes, it took a bit of fiddling and reloading, but I got it in the end.
It was a great video - they really explained the science well, managed to capture the excitement and emotion and all that. Thanks for posting this, Helen!
I've always had a fondness for exciting space stuff - anybody else seen Interstellar, by Christopher Nolan? I have, and it was awesome!
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 18 November 2014, 22:46:00
My way is to just find a free extension and let it do all the work.
As I said, the one I have is Hola Better Internet, it's working very well for me so far.

Thanks Hanibal, Hola seems to work for me.
%^)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: studentforever on 19 November 2014, 05:26:29
Called in at the Fairfield Heritage Centre yesterday. It is 4 smallish rooms (old offices) of exhibits, mainly posters with photos plus at least one interactive video in each room, some with sound some silent. You can also visit the restored boardroom - very much the ambiance of the powerful Victorian business man.  They have a few artifacts and are hoping to develop it further. There is a picture of HMS Glasgow - one of our RN ships who was built there and some of the latest Naval ship to be launched this century. Entrance is free although donations are very welcome. Currently open with volunteers Monday to Friday 2-5pm.

If anyone is visiting Glasgow it is worth a visit. It's quite close to the Science Centre with its IMAX and if you are going at the SECC you could cross the river on the foot bridge and get the 23 bus which drops you off across the road.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: AvastMH on 19 November 2014, 07:43:14
Talk about vagaries of living near the lakes...

I just was out raking leaves. HOWEVER 10-12 miles (20km) to the south they are dealing with blizzard conditions, driving bans, and 3 to 6 foot (1 - 2 m) snows. Drifts are reported to be twice that!  This one is NOT a 'surprise' as they have been forecasting it for several days.


Brrr! Hope you continue to avoid the back breaking misery of snow clearance! :)


Oh no!! The 1 o'clock BBC news just now - every state in the USA has vanished under snow - are you still OK Dean?
We saw a white out covering W New York State now in a state of emergency.  A basket ball team stuck in their bus for 24 hours. Families in Ohio camping out in thick snow to get best school places for their kids. Record rates of snowfall. Florida covered too and more due tomorrow country-wide.
I'm off to check the surface pressure chart to see if it's coming here :o
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Dean on 19 November 2014, 10:14:13
Not really disappeared. Just the first time since 1976 that all of the 'lower 48 states' has recorded morning temps below freezing.

 'Lake effect' is common around here when the water temps are above the land temps and the wind comes in across the 'warmer' waters. Never seen it this bad. The line usually 'wanders' North and South but this one came in and SAT! Band is about 10 miles (18k) wide and snow depths are not in the 5 - 6 foot (2m) range.

Some flakes in my neighborhood and likely totals in the 3 - 6 inch (7 - 15cm) range. I'm off to sing with our Retired Men's Chorus in the next town in a couple hours and don't expect any issues. Just south of us they are still getting 'hammered.' Thankfully not  many deaths (4) - this was WELL predicted.

If you want to follow it - my local National Weather Service Station is   
http://forecast.weather.gov/MapClick.php?CityName=North+Tonawanda&state=NY&site=BUF&lat=43.0438&lon=-78.8659
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: AvastMH on 19 November 2014, 11:25:31
Very interesting! Glad you are still safe  :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 19 November 2014, 11:28:54
All the states south of the Lakes and north of the gulf coast are experiencing a genuine blizzard dropping snow much deeper than they are used to this time of year as it moves thru the area.  The Great Lakes region is experiencing days-long lake-effect snow - as long as the wind direction doesn't shift, the snow is not moving anywhere, it just keeps falling.  My Chicagoland neighborhood and Dean's neighborhood get a few flurries, if anything.  Those directly leeward of the wind are being buried.  Having both at the same time makes national news. And Dean and I are both lucky.  :) 
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: studentforever on 19 November 2014, 11:50:15
Glad you are both safe, hope all the OWers over the pond are OK too.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Kathy on 19 November 2014, 12:59:47
We are now living in an ice box, but other than that, we are fine - darn you, polar vortex!

Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Caro on 19 November 2014, 16:51:50
Hope you get a break from the wintry blast soon, US friends.
Sweltering 7C here.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Kathy on 19 November 2014, 16:54:42
Break out the sun screen and bathing suits - you are having a heat wave!  ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 19 November 2014, 16:57:42
Need I say anything more?

Enjoy the cool, you can always put on clothes, I get told off when I remove mine in the heat.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 19 November 2014, 17:22:52
Stuart, you are just trying to make us snow-folk (successfully!) jealous.   :D
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Randi on 19 November 2014, 17:28:07
(unsuccessfully!) ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 19 November 2014, 18:46:50
Stuart, you are just trying to make us snow-folk (successfully!) jealous.   :D
No Janet.
I assume you mean about the temperature and not my state of dress.  %^)

Why do you think I have had my holidays in North Norway in winter, the Antarctic and the next one in the Northwest Passage chasing Franklin.

I had the choice of Canada or Australia to live, hard choice (seriously) both great places, Australia won because I was there at the time.

Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 19 November 2014, 19:19:32
I agree, too much at either extreme isn't really good.  But Canada and Australia seem to be offering you wonderful neighbors in opposite temperature extremes! 
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: elizabeth on 20 November 2014, 06:26:24
 ;D It rain here all day today.  ;D Sorry everyone we really need the rain here in California.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 20 November 2014, 10:06:31
I'm so glad you finally got some.  :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: studentforever on 21 November 2014, 01:03:50
The outcome of the WW1 Naval battles

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-30128199

It would have been a mind blowing sight from a satellite.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 21 November 2014, 01:36:38
Thanks to Hanibal I can now watch this BBC series about Australia in Australia.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b04sm3sj/click-australia-special (http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b04sm3sj/click-australia-special)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: AvastMH on 21 November 2014, 04:17:47
 ;D ;D ;D
But did the beeb get it right?
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Hanibal94 on 21 November 2014, 04:24:05
Glad to know I was able to help out an old non-techie man!
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: AvastMH on 21 November 2014, 04:29:05
The outcome of the WW1 Naval battles

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-30128199

It would have been a mind blowing sight from a satellite.

It must have been an awesome sight, that many vessels. Thanks for posting this one.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: jil on 21 November 2014, 05:23:11
The outcome of the WW1 Naval battles

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-30128199

It would have been a mind blowing sight from a satellite.
That's really interesting and the diagram of the fleets is especially useful as it explains the entry in HMS Caradoc's Log (http://www.naval-history.net/OWShips-WW1-06-HMS_Caradoc.htm) for that day 'taking station astern of southern line'.  It's added to my list of things for version 2 of the edit!
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 21 November 2014, 05:36:52
;D ;D ;D
But did the beeb get it right?

They did, they had to come down under to be sure though.
The part about the bush fires is very relevant as we are about to enter a very high bush fire season.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: AvastMH on 21 November 2014, 05:47:40
 :o Best to ask Kathy Elizabeth (whoops - sorry!) if she has any rain to spare from California...
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: elizabeth on 21 November 2014, 06:01:23
:o Best to ask Kathy if she has any rain to spare from California...
:) Raining very well here. ::) At the moment.  When it rains in California it POURS. Had to relocate several patients to different rooms due to the heavy down pour and plug of drainage pipes flooding some of the rooms.   ::) But we need the rain.  But not all at once I might add here.  LOL
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Dean on 21 November 2014, 12:49:17
Our neighbors slightly to the south would be glad to send you some snow!!
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: AvastMH on 21 November 2014, 13:21:27
Oh my giddy aunt! That's a lot of snow.
Just got the bbc news on...very dramatic indeed. Sorry that lives have been lost. But also a story about a lady that had to give birth in the fire-station. Hope this isn't the start of a very looooong wild winter.  :-\
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 21 November 2014, 13:45:23
So strange to see that everyone has gotten their driveways shoveled but the city hasn't gotten around to clearing the street yet.  That is completely miserable.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: AvastMH on 21 November 2014, 14:02:07
what does that weight of water do to your car?
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Randi on 21 November 2014, 14:05:31
I can't help wondering what clearing the street will do to the driveways...
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Helen J on 21 November 2014, 14:23:20
I saw an interview on TV yesterday which said that some people were unable to get out of their homes because their drives had been blocked by the clearance of their street.  Hard to see what else they could do - the snow has to go somewhere!
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Kookaburra on 21 November 2014, 14:46:31
I can't help wondering what clearing the street will do to the driveways...
Oh that is always my downfall.  I live on a corner so all that extra snow from the intersection gets plowed right over the end of my driveway - sometimes 3 feet worth of heavy plowed snow, more than my snow-blower can handle.   I finish clearing my driveway and while I am taking my gloves off, I watch the city plow push a couple more tons onto the end of my driveway.  Sigh.  I think I shall just stay home for the next few months.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 21 November 2014, 15:59:03
There is no question, the street plows are going to block every driveway.  Midwesterners are used to that, but it is actually easier to work the plow-bank down after the drive is cleared - at least you can get to it in the first place!  Trust me, it is nobody's idea of fun.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Michael on 21 November 2014, 18:12:13
Bad news for you people living on the eastern half of the North America and in western Europe (if memory serves).  I read a paper a little while ago that said that heavy snow in eastern North America (and western Europe?) was related to early permanent snow cover in Siberia. This season saw permanent snow cover in Siberia very early in October which portends a snowy winter for you. Fortunately for me, the city of Victoria has banned snow here. I can't remember if western Europe was included with eastern North America. Not living in either place made the paper nothing more than academic interest for me.

Sorry for the bad news...
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 21 November 2014, 18:14:56
Please have your law makers send instructions to ours on how this snow-ban is enforced.  I'd love to have it. ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Michael on 21 November 2014, 18:43:37
Please have your law makers send instructions to ours on how this snow-ban is enforced.  I'd love to have it. ;D
Don't have a senate to block the legislation.  ;)

(Mind you, it's a city ordinance, so I don't imagine that Chicago has a senate for the city.(
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 21 November 2014, 18:49:28
Starting an effort here might just start another famous "Council War" - Chicagoans see local politics as a full contact spectator sport. 8)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Dean on 22 November 2014, 19:22:07
Just to add. In many cases the towns are still trying to dig out for emergency responders, etc. Most have said that they are aware and will come back later and try to clear the ends of driveways. The biggest fear now is that temps over the weekend will be in the 40's and 50's (4 - 10 even 15?C)!!! The risk of flooding increases. Emergency Services have brought in boats, pumps, and sand bags for the next round.

Stay tuned!!
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 22 November 2014, 20:46:05
The worst part of thawing out that big a snow is that every single storm sewer drain is completely blocked - the city is going to be asking plows and citizens to shovel those clear first, but it is going to take as much work as dealing with the initial fall.  Saw in Chicago back around 1980 when a record winter put more than 90" of snow on us with very few thaws.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Helen J on 23 November 2014, 10:38:56
Puts our weather warnings in the shade!  All we've got at the moment is that there may be bits of localised flooding as it's been very wet in some parts of the country; and it may get down to freezing overnight so we may want to get up a bit earlier so as to defrost our cars before setting off for work.  Compared to feet of snow and possibly a rapid thaw, it's nothing at all.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Michael on 23 November 2014, 18:26:47
I found a very interesting site for getting historic weather for places in the US. (I'm taking a brief hiatus from the Concord and entering data for the Pioneer.) At the moment, she's in Oakland, California in Aug/Sep 1932. On 09 Sep 1932 she recorded a temperature of 90F which was quite a jump from the other days. I didn't think this was an anomaly, so I checked the actual weather for Oakland for the month of September using this NOAA website for historical weather (http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/cdo-web/). Not only did it give me the Oakland weather for Sept. 1932, but it included Berkeley and San Francisco without me asking for it.  Anyway, what about the 90F?

Berkeley 09 Sept: 94F
Oakland 09 Sept: 93F
San Francisco 09 Sept: 100F

I guess I just can't stop being a weatherman! The website was easy to use, and quick. The data were free. You get an email with the link to download the data.

Enjoy!   :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 23 November 2014, 19:53:03
Cool.  I bookmarked it.  :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Randi on 24 November 2014, 14:14:01
Quote from: http://www.thefreedictionary.com/ - Quotation of the Day
If we don't end war, war will end us.

H.G. Wells (1866-1946)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 24 November 2014, 20:00:13
Yes.  I wish leaders of armies everywhere would think about that a bit.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Hanibal94 on 25 November 2014, 01:33:09
How about this one:

Quote
War does not determine who is right - only who is left.

(Attributed to Bertrand Russell, but may not actually be from him)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Randi on 25 November 2014, 02:42:09
Too true.

and

History is written by the winners.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Randi on 25 November 2014, 03:12:27
A French friend (who is 95) was telling me about her grandmother who had lived through the Franco-Prussian war (1870-71) and WWI.
Every night in her prayers, she said "Please don't make me live through another war." She died just a couple of days before the start of WWII.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: elizabeth on 25 November 2014, 03:26:10
Too true.

and

History is written by the winners.
Yes all to true.

 An example might be this place that my daughter and I happen to stopped and visit on the way home from South Dakota. A place I might add that was never on my must go see list.
 When I read your words "History is written by the winners" this place came into mind. 
http://www.nps.gov/libi/index.htm
 
Must say it was the best stop and visit place on the way home  it even topped  Yellowstone IMHO  A must *see* if you are ever in the area.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Caro on 25 November 2014, 03:49:06
And if you're in London, a visit to Truth and Memory: British Art of the First World War (http://www.iwm.org.uk/exhibitions/iwm-london/truth-and-memory-british-art-of-the-first-world-war) should tell you everything you need to know about the futility of war.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 25 November 2014, 17:52:27
Yesterday I saw what I call late autumn at its prettiest.  Just sharing Autumn Lace and Autumn Leaves Frosted.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Michael on 25 November 2014, 18:24:25
Nice! I would share a picture, except it would be of pouring rain...  :(
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: AvastMH on 26 November 2014, 06:57:00
Beautiful photos Janet. :D
There's a jolly little robin (well - he's a thug really - as robin's are) who keeps giving hungry looks through the window. He was struggling the day before yesterday which was bitterly cold and crisp with frost. Should he fluff up and keep warm...or fluff down and look skinny, hungry, a victim of nature's cruel weather whim? I fell for it anyway - a nice handful of the RSPB's best fruity nibbles went out. His friend the blackbird helped clear them off pretty quickly.  Now it's soggy again they can get on with eating the remaining bugs. I hear tell that we will have snow next week or shortly after... :(
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Randi on 26 November 2014, 07:59:16
If anyone is desperate for Christmas gift ideas, there is a place in town that offers fish pedicures and teeth whitening (they don't specify the method) among other things. Note: I haven't tried it and I don't intend to.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Dean on 26 November 2014, 08:03:33
For those who have heard about our storm - now called 'SNOWvember' - Here are some pictures taken by the local paper.

http://galleries.buffalonews.com/default.aspx?id=3291#/1

BTW - the storm was 'Lake Effect' --- I live about 10 miles (15k) north of the storm area and we had only a couple inches (5cm). Over the last weekend the temps went to 50's (Teens in ?C) and much of it melted. So far only some 'nuisance' flooding. We'll be OK.   ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Kathy on 26 November 2014, 11:24:05
We now have a fluffy blanket of white covering us up  ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 26 November 2014, 12:01:34
Thanks Michael and Joan.  I'm glad the robin got fed, just a bit surprised to hear they stay with for the winter.  They migrate out of the upper midwest in early autumn on this side of the pond.  Nice for you.  :)

Dean, those photos are humbling - that snow was right up over the windows in those homes.  I hope it slid off the roofs before many timbers crack.  Mother Nature showing her strength.

If anyone is desperate for Christmas gift ideas, there is a place in town that offers fish pedicures and teeth whitening (they don't specify the method) among other things. Note: I haven't tried it and I don't intend to.

You'd have to be desperate to gift that.  Whatever is fish pedicures anyway?  It sets up pictures in my head of a fish getting its fins polished.  :D
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Kathy on 26 November 2014, 12:43:24
A fish pedicure is where you put your feet in a tank of fish - I forget which species, and the fish then eat the dead skin from your feet.  A win-win for all concerned - fish get fed (I think they also get fish food), and you get smooth feet.  :P
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Helen J on 26 November 2014, 13:08:14
There used to be a place in an Oxford shopping centre where you could get your feet nibbled - I thought it would be rather tickly and never gave it a go.
When I read Randi's post I had a vision of the fish being involved in tooth whitening too, which was a very weird picture!
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Hanibal94 on 26 November 2014, 13:34:04
I had an image of the fish getting their teeth whitened!  ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Randi on 26 November 2014, 13:36:53
 ;D ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Kookaburra on 26 November 2014, 13:53:20
I had an image of the fish getting their teeth whitened!  ;D

(http://kookabura.smugmug.com/photos/i-RNN9QQC/0/M/i-RNN9QQC-M.jpg)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Randi on 26 November 2014, 13:57:54
Museum switches on historic computer (http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-30131447)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Thursday Next on 26 November 2014, 14:54:34
I did try a fish pedicure about three or four years ago - there was a real fad for them in the UK at the time.  It was quite pleasant, but most of the establishments closed down in about six months or a year, so it didn't seem to really catch on.  And I think there may have been animal welfare issues about the conditions the fish were kept in.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: AvastMH on 26 November 2014, 16:38:29
OK - I'm going to admit to a fish pedicure. However, it involved the water-lily house at the famous Oxford Botanic Gardens. Me and a few friends used to go down there when it was very quiet (in the old days it was not very  visitor friendly so it did get quiet), one friend would take his shoes and socks off, sit on the side of the raised pool, and put his feet in for a pedicure. :o The rest of us would stick our hands in for an obliging tickle. The friend's feet always looked good after the obliging fish sorted them out - and I never saw a fish floating on it's back shortly after. Honest! ::) ;D
I am now a fully paid-up Friend of the Botanic Garden - my manicure-at-the-lily-pond-days are now over. ;) 
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 26 November 2014, 17:57:07
I personally think it is a neat idea, given that the fish are properly housed in clean water in off hours.  Wonder if there are any around Chicagoland?  They certainly don't advertize here.  :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: AvastMH on 26 November 2014, 18:02:41
I had an image of the fish getting their teeth whitened!  ;D

(http://kookabura.smugmug.com/photos/i-RNN9QQC/0/M/i-RNN9QQC-M.jpg)

 ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 27 November 2014, 06:11:17
To those of us in the US,
Happy Thanksgiving!



(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-9faOf2dWyoY/VHcFU9G1SnI/AAAAAAAABi4/2o-Bwni2-fM/w540-h488-no/Thanksgiving%2BTurkey.JPG)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Michael on 27 November 2014, 10:41:00
You're late, Janet! We had ours more than a month ago.   ;)

But Happy Thanksgiving to all and everyone living south of the border!!!
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Thursday Next on 27 November 2014, 14:06:07
Happy Thanksgiving to all OWers in the US!
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: AvastMH on 27 November 2014, 16:04:44
Happy Thanksgiving y'all!
Best wishes from the old side of the pond...

(https://imageshack.com/i/p4uHWXnVj)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: AvastMH on 27 November 2014, 16:06:41
To those of us in the US,
Happy Thanksgiving!



(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-9faOf2dWyoY/VHcFU9G1SnI/AAAAAAAABi4/2o-Bwni2-fM/w540-h488-no/Thanksgiving%2BTurkey.JPG)

Fab turkey - love it!
From an OW Vegetarian  ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Michael on 27 November 2014, 17:10:56
Here's a wonderful essay about Thanksgiving and Thankful Living (http://www.truth-out.org/opinion/item/27694-thanksgiving-day-and-the-powerful-play) that I read today. It's suitable even for those of us who celebrated Thanksgiving in October, or for those who don't have a thanksgiving holiday.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Dean on 29 November 2014, 12:00:01
Thought I'd share this from our local Weather Service Office about that storm last week. I live just below the 'F' in Niagara Falls and we had about 1" (2.5cm.) That's what 'Lake Effect' does around here!  USUALLY it 'wanders' a bit north and south - mostly south in the hills and ski country - but this one just stalled and folks got clobbered!  60" = 5 feet or 150cm!!
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Hanibal94 on 29 November 2014, 15:04:33
Sorry for being a little late with this - I meant to post it earlier, but got distracted and blah blah blah.

(http://s3.amazonaws.com/theoatmeal-img/comics/roasted_dinosaurs/roasted_dinosaurs.png)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 29 November 2014, 15:40:23
 ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: AvastMH on 29 November 2014, 16:34:56
 ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 30 November 2014, 12:38:12
Happy Birthday, Caro!!
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-R8Xavmyqwas/VHtVrBkVVEI/AAAAAAAABnk/O7_i7S0YBGU/w754-h501-no/Happy_Birthday_Cake.jpg)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Randi on 30 November 2014, 13:23:55
(http://cl.jroo.me/z3/5/R/p/e/a.baa-Birthday-Cat.jpg)

Happy Birthday, Caro !
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Helen J on 30 November 2014, 13:31:38
I can't match Randi's wonderful picture - but happy birthday Caro anyway!
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Thursday Next on 30 November 2014, 13:33:16
Happy Birthday, Caro!
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Hanibal94 on 30 November 2014, 13:47:05
Happy Birthday to you, Caro!
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Kathy on 30 November 2014, 14:23:22
To Caro on her 111th birthday:

Once again it is your birthday,
And I would just like to say,
May all your troubles be small,
('Cause you're the belle of the ball)
And everything goes your way!
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Caro on 30 November 2014, 15:12:28
 :-* Thanks very much, Janet, Randi, Helen, Su, Hanibal and Kathy.
What fabulous cakes!
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: AvastMH on 30 November 2014, 15:28:33
Happy happy happy birthday Caro  :-*

(http://imageshack.com/a/img538/1701/YnyPZv.gif)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Caro on 30 November 2014, 15:55:14
Ha ha ha! I know that look. Thanks very much, Joan.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Craig on 30 November 2014, 16:00:03
All the best, Caro!  Nice to squeak in a birthday before December  :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Caro on 30 November 2014, 17:05:10
Thanks, Craig.  :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Michael on 30 November 2014, 17:42:41
Best wishes to on your birthday and for the coming year, Carol!  Michael
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Dean on 30 November 2014, 19:15:24
Caro:

   Happy Birthday to you,
   Happy Birthday to you,
   Happy Birthday dear Caaaaaaaaaaarrrrrrrrrrrrroooooooooooooooooooooooooooo,
   Happy Birthday to you!

Hope it's a happy one and that you get lots of neat presents!

Hope also you get to share with family! ;)

Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: elizabeth on 30 November 2014, 22:18:24
 ;DHAPPY BIRTHDAY! CARO   :-*
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: tastiger on 30 November 2014, 23:17:57
Happy completion-of-a-rotation-around-the-sun day Caro! :D
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Randi on 01 December 2014, 02:32:52
 ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Caro on 01 December 2014, 02:58:57
Thank you, Michael, Dean, Liz and tastiger. :)

Welcome to December everybody.  :o
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: propriome on 01 December 2014, 03:25:59
Happy birthday Caro!!  :) :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Caro on 01 December 2014, 03:47:11
Grazie, Matteo.  :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: jil on 01 December 2014, 04:18:49
Happy Birthday + 1, Caro!
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Caro on 01 December 2014, 06:42:41
Thanks Janet.  ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: elizabeth on 02 December 2014, 06:45:08
 :) The new advent Calendar is out !  https://www.zooniverse.org/advent   So  8) 8) Way to got Caro! ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: AvastMH on 02 December 2014, 08:00:31
Yo Caro!!!! Fantastic - on the calendar. And thoroughly deserved if I may say so. :D
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 02 December 2014, 10:11:46
Very nice pick!!  :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: jules on 02 December 2014, 11:44:21
Congrats Caro!  8) 8) 8) 8)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Caro on 02 December 2014, 16:24:39
Thanks all!  :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: elizabeth on 03 December 2014, 05:13:39
 :) Hello everyone must say happy to report that it is raining here?  I know California needs the rain but does it all have to come down  all  at once.  :o 
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Caro on 03 December 2014, 05:51:26
Happy to report that it's not raining here (temporarily).
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Randi on 03 December 2014, 05:56:19
Happy to report that it's not raining here (temporarily)  ;D

On the other hand, with all the clouds and rain it has not been too cold, and that is nice for the heating bill ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 03 December 2014, 07:39:54
Happy to report that it's not raining here (temporarily)  ;D

Sunny skies and Light airs when the sun finally rises, and maybe temps rising slightly above freezing this afternoon, the current rain and snow going by south of us.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Randi on 03 December 2014, 13:52:53
Please note: Holidays in the U.S. Log Books (http://forum.oldweather.org/index.php?topic=4300.0) ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 03 December 2014, 14:28:07
Yesterday, 10 min later the heavens opened with the heaviest rain in a long time.
How would you describe these clouds in the log?
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Dean on 03 December 2014, 15:57:49
"Impressive!!"  ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 03 December 2014, 16:11:01
Awe-inspiring and scary!
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: AvastMH on 03 December 2014, 16:39:38
Very 'JMW Turner' in style, more imposing than Constable I'd say. ;)

Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: AvastMH on 04 December 2014, 01:55:57
G'mrning OW. If anyone has seen a good night's sleep I'd be interested to home it.

(http://www.desismileys.com/smileys/desismileys_6647.gif)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: AvastMH on 04 December 2014, 03:22:40
Cor - check out the serengeti on today's advent calendar: https://www.zooniverse.org/advent. You HAVE to see the piccies on http://daily.zooniverse.org/2014/12/04/zooniverse-advent-day-4-your-favourite-snapshots/   stunning/dramatic/funny. 8)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Caro on 04 December 2014, 03:29:47
Morning Joan, morning all.
True; Snapshot Serengeti comes up with amazing pics.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Dean on 04 December 2014, 07:00:16
Thought this belonged here with us!

Mods: Feel free to copy and/or move this to a better place.   :D 
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 04 December 2014, 09:31:23
Truth.  Thanks for a good start for my day.  :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Hanibal94 on 04 December 2014, 09:31:56
Very well said! Thanks Dean.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Helen J on 04 December 2014, 12:02:20
A good perspective Dean - thanks for posting it.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: AvastMH on 04 December 2014, 12:54:42
Wonderful words Dean!
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 04 December 2014, 23:44:12
We seem to have a bug in the system.
https://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Concord/vol025of040/vol025of040_022_1.jpg (https://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Concord/vol025of040/vol025of040_022_1.jpg)

 :o
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: elizabeth on 05 December 2014, 02:24:16
We seem to have a bug in the system.
https://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Concord/vol025of040/vol025of040_022_1.jpg (https://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Concord/vol025of040/vol025of040_022_1.jpg)

 :o
;D LOL
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Randi on 05 December 2014, 02:38:15
 ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 05 December 2014, 11:39:49
A archived fossil!  Should we send the specimen to Notes From Nature? ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Dean on 05 December 2014, 11:47:51
 ;D ;D ;D ;D


Another 'well known' bug!!  http://www.jamesshuggins.com/h/tek1/first_computer_bug.htm ;)



Also - on 'quick read' it looks like 'flog' ship.  Not sure i'd want to be crew on THAT one!! :o
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Michael on 05 December 2014, 16:05:28
A archived fossil!  Should we send the specimen to Notes From Nature? ;D
The day before, 14 Jan 1899, they noted that there was a pest of flies on the ship.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Caro on 07 December 2014, 04:09:47
Morning all.
I see the citizen scientist lolcats are back: http://daily.zooniverse.org/2014/12/07/zooniverse-advent-day-7-the-lolcats-are-back/
(as noted elsewhere by Janet :) )

Good news: http://www.nasa.gov/newhorizons/on-plutos-doorstep-new-horizons-spacecraft-awakens-for-encounter/#.VIPVAWO9aSo
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 07 December 2014, 08:13:13
Great - interesting stuff coming next year.  :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: AvastMH on 07 December 2014, 08:21:37
Exciting stuff...Pluto and co. :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: studentforever on 07 December 2014, 11:50:08
If the Rosetta probes do their stuff and New Horizons stays awake, the next few months should have observational astronomers struggling to interpret it all. Just think, when I was a kid I thought that we might reach the moon when I was as old as my Great Grandfather (in his 80s). There was a radio programme 'Journey into Space' which I followed breathlessly every week. I'd look up at the moon and it seemed so far away, and Journey into Space so obviously science fiction even though it was really exciting at the time. I just hoped I'd live long enough to see us get there - now I'm wondering if I'll still be around when they try for a trip to Mars!!
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: AvastMH on 07 December 2014, 12:03:31
now I'm wondering if I'll still be around when they try for a trip to Mars!!

Don't keep wondering - get yourself in the queue now or you'll miss the tickets! ;) ;) ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Randi on 07 December 2014, 12:54:40
Neat!
I can hardly wait till the data starts coming back.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Thursday Next on 07 December 2014, 14:20:55
If the Rosetta probes do their stuff and New Horizons stays awake, the next few months should have observational astronomers struggling to interpret it all. Just think, when I was a kid I thought that we might reach the moon when I was as old as my Great Grandfather (in his 80s). There was a radio programme 'Journey into Space' which I followed breathlessly every week. I'd look up at the moon and it seemed so far away, and Journey into Space so obviously science fiction even though it was really exciting at the time. I just hoped I'd live long enough to see us get there - now I'm wondering if I'll still be around when they try for a trip to Mars!!

I loved Journey Into Space!  All the series were repeated on Radio 4Extra a couple of years ago.  I thought it stood the test of time fairly well on the whole.  And I loved the way David Jacobs would be playing about half a dozen different roles by putting on different regional accents!
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 07 December 2014, 16:12:59
I want a replay of Quatermass
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Dean on 08 December 2014, 08:14:31
If the Rosetta probes do their stuff and New Horizons stays awake, the next few months should have observational astronomers struggling to interpret it all. Just think, when I was a kid I thought that we might reach the moon when I was as old as my Great Grandfather (in his 80s). There was a radio programme 'Journey into Space' which I followed breathlessly every week. I'd look up at the moon and it seemed so far away, and Journey into Space so obviously science fiction even though it was really exciting at the time. I just hoped I'd live long enough to see us get there - now I'm wondering if I'll still be around when they try for a trip to Mars!!

Neat!
I can hardly wait till the data starts coming back.

Just think...if we ever run out of ships there will be a whole new data list for us to attack!!   ;D ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Helen J on 08 December 2014, 16:07:17
No transcribing today, I'm afraid - I've been out all day.  As compensation, if anyone is in London or passing through, there's an interesting exhibition at the British Library, on the hunt for the Northwest Passage.  It's free, and not too big, so if you're around King's Cross with some time to spare (which is how I got to see it) it's well worth making the small detour.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: AvastMH on 08 December 2014, 16:32:36
Sounds great - but sadly I can't get there. I wonder - did they give any idea of how the mythical Northwest Passage was ever dreamt up? That has always intrigued me. :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Helen J on 08 December 2014, 16:42:58
It seems to have been at least partly that they (the British) really needed it to exist, as the Spanish and Portuguese had control of other routes to 'the east'.  So getting from the Atlantic to the Pacific by that route was an attractive proposition.  And it's obvious from some of the early maps they had in the exhibition that the geography of the area is really complex and it's not surprising that they believed it must be possible to find a way through.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: AvastMH on 08 December 2014, 17:00:22
That makes a lot of sense..I hadn't thought about having to negotiate foreign waters - especially given that they were filled with rival 'business men' for spices, tea, and silk (I guess).
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Michael on 08 December 2014, 18:05:21
There is a book written about the Secret Voyage of Sir Francis Drake (that's the title) that theorizes that Sir Francis drake was ordered by Queen Elizabeth to sail around Cape Horn and north along the west coast of the Americas to see if there was an outlet to the Arctic Ocean, or was it like the Mediterranean and Black Seas with only one way in or out. Frobisher had discovered the eastern entrance, but without a western exit the Arctic Ocean would not be too useful for skirting North America. Queen Elizabeth wanted assurances that there was an exit to the Arctic Ocean before she would fund money for any more explorations. It is thought that Drake entered the Bering Sea, and so proved the existence of the necessary exit. It is surmised that this was why attempts to find the NorthWest passage continued for so many more years. When Drake returned, sailing west around Africa, he made his reports which were buried so the Spanish and Portugese would not be able to profit from his discovery.

The book was well researched and very interesting. I highly recommend it.

Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Randi on 09 December 2014, 04:01:41
Interesting!
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Randi on 09 December 2014, 07:29:11
Curiosity Mars rover 'solves mountain riddle' (http://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-30390143)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 09 December 2014, 08:26:23
Cool!!   ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: AvastMH on 09 December 2014, 09:54:06
yes- that really is cool!  8) 8)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Dean on 09 December 2014, 15:41:46
For those still interested in our 'blizzard'  here is a short video made locally that has some really great pictures of the whole thing and pokes some fun at us too.

https://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=i8NfchMdgpM
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Randi on 09 December 2014, 15:58:23
 ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 09 December 2014, 16:51:38
 ;D 8)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: AvastMH on 09 December 2014, 17:32:23
Cool!  ;D 8)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: elizabeth on 10 December 2014, 05:29:36
AWESOME ;D

 It appears that Northern California is in for a little rain :o Oh dear I know we need the rain .....here come the flash floods etc.    ::)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: AvastMH on 10 December 2014, 05:32:58
Will you be safe in the floods Elizabeth? I do hope so! :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Caro on 10 December 2014, 05:34:21
There's a bit of weather up north here too: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-30407295  :o
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: elizabeth on 10 December 2014, 06:34:00
Will you be safe in the floods Elizabeth? I do hope so! :)
Well it's going to  get very wet here, in Santa Cruz I am sure .... The storm will hit on my days off  ::)  Always!

 Oh well as long as the power does not go off.................I will sit inside and maybe do a few WR.  If the powers goes off I will catch up on my reading...........by candle light  ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: AvastMH on 10 December 2014, 07:54:48
Looks like Scotland could use one of your candles, Elizabeth. The electrics are still down on the W coast... :o
(http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/640x480q90/538/9NcTQW.jpg)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Caro on 11 December 2014, 02:36:35
Morning all.

Here is the property news: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-30411069
 ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 11 December 2014, 04:18:07
Neat.  %^)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: AvastMH on 11 December 2014, 04:59:47
I dunno - looked quite messy to me  ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: AvastMH on 11 December 2014, 05:01:35
Just when you think you know everything there is to know about clouds.... http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/science/article4292822.ece
The BBC featured this in its morning news prog - but in looking for this cloud formation on the web it seems that this is not that new...can't find the news snippet yet.
 8)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Hanibal94 on 11 December 2014, 07:37:17
Any chance you could post the full article text here, Joan?
I can't view it because I'm not a subscriber.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 11 December 2014, 10:10:33
Really cool astronomer doodle on the US google search today - Annie Jump Cannon's 151st birthday (https://www.google.com/webhp?tab=ww&ei=0LGJVLKfF4iyyQST8IDoDw&ved=0CAkQ1S4#q=Annie+Jump+Cannon&oi=ddle&ct=annie-jump-cannons-151st-birthday-5677811415121920-hp&hl=en).  She studied stuff the male astronomers of the day thought below them, and showed them all off.  :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: AvastMH on 11 December 2014, 10:23:01
For one particular cloud, the silver lining has been a long time coming. It has been 200 years since scientists first classified the different types of clouds, and 60 since a new one has been named. Now, thanks to an British amateur enthusiast, the Cloud atlas could soon receive a new entry ? Undulatus asperatus.
As the founder of the Cloud Appreciation Society, Gavin Pretor-Pinney has been receiving photographs of clouds from his 36,000 members for nearly a decade. And for much of that time, one growing set of images has troubled him.
?When clouds come in, we classify them according to what type they are,? said Mr Pretor-Pinney, author of The Cloudspotter?s Guide. ?In 2005 we got sent some photographs from Cedar Rapids in Iowa, and they struck me as quite unusual.?
They were a wavy cloud, classified as Undulatus, but they were also different from the others an as such defied categorisation. ?It is a little as if you are under water, looking at the surface of the water when it is a choppy, turbulent day,? he said of their form.
Mr Pretor-Pinney put the image on the website and forgot about it ? until a year later another arrived from Australia, then one from Scotland. ?They were more turbulent, chaotic and confused than other Undulatus. They rather stumped me.? Then he arrived at the solution. ?I thought maybe we could do with a new classification.?
He enlisted the help of scientists from the University of Reading and the Royal Meteorological Society to understand whether and how the cloud was scientifically distinct. It also needed a Latin name. He consulted his cousin, a classics teacher, who suggested asperatus, meaning roughened, from the line in Virgil?s Aeneid, ?Winter roughens up the waves with cold north winds?.
After consideration of his submission by the World Meteorological Organisation, it has now recommended that asperatus makes its way into their Cloud atlas, in which all types are recorded and a decision will be made next year.
The precise conditions that produce the cloud remain elusive, but Dr Liz Bentley, from the Royal Meteorological Society, knows the broad basics. ?When there are contrasting temperature layers it gives the atmosphere energy. That causes turbulence, as the layers start to mix and churn,? she said. ?It makes for a very dramatic sky. It has that kind of stormy nature as if you are seeing the surface battered by strong winds.?
Assuming asperatus does gain recognition though, why does it matter? After all, it always existed.
?In my mind, the naming of nature is intimately linked to paying attention to it,? said Mr Pretor-Pinney. ?It?s how the human brain works ? we put things in different compartments, we need to classify them. Clouds are the part of nature that is most resistant to that urge. Constantly in change, constantly metamorphosing from one type to another, they are the embodiment of chaos.
?And yet out of that Victorian desire to catalogue nature comes this system for naming clouds and I like the idea of keeping that alive. It helps to engage the public?s attention. Things that are the most everyday are the things you see the least. We need to tap people on the shoulder and say, ?Don?t just think of clouds as so many inches of rain and hail ? they are the most dynamic, poetic and evocative part of nature?.?
FACT FILE
The tallest clouds can stretch 14 miles into the atmosphere ? more than twice the height of Everest
Cumulonimbus clouds have unpredictable, strong winds. In 1959 a pilot bailed out and spent 30 minutes bouncing around inside one
In China, the practice of seeding clouds to produce rain has led to rows about ?cloud stealing? between drought-stricken regions
Clouds might be more prevalent on weekdays. A study found storms peak in the working week, when air pollution is at its worst
Clouds on Venus are made of sulphuric acid. Those on Jupiter consist of ammonia.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Looks like a beautiful synergy between enthusiastic amateur cloud watchers and enthusiastic scientists. What a beazer combination. ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 11 December 2014, 13:18:41
Truly beautiful - I had to googled for photos.  ;D 
https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&rlz=1C1WPZB_enUS596US596&ion=1&espv=2&es_th=1&ie=UTF-8#q=undulatus%20asperatus%20gif

(http://i.imwx.com/web/UndulatusAsperatus320x180.gif)

(https://41.media.tumblr.com/920f95a5c60219ba0c545143d9446008/tumblr_mj7qbzeMBV1qbh26io1_500.jpg)

Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 11 December 2014, 22:49:14
Now that's a sight you don't see every day.
I wonder what weather followed those clouds.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 12 December 2014, 02:43:31
Looks like Scotland could use one of your candles, Elizabeth. The electrics are still down on the W coast... :o
(http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/640x480q90/538/9NcTQW.jpg)

They are still out.
 :'(
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: elizabeth on 12 December 2014, 04:00:49
 :) I put a empty gallon bucket out on the deck this time yesterday.....it is now full!  Must say just a little wet over here ::)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: AvastMH on 12 December 2014, 04:46:06
:) I put a empty gallon bucket out on the deck this time yesterday.....it is now full!  Must say just a little wet over here ::)

 :o :o :o You're going to need a ship soon!  ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Michael on 12 December 2014, 16:47:55
:) I put a empty gallon bucket out on the deck this time yesterday.....it is now full!  Must say just a little wet over here ::)

This is the time of year I really like the good old USA for their Olympic Range just south and southwest of us here in Victoria. We are in its rain shadow!!! Hurrah! West Vancouver, in the past week had 166 mm of rain. We had barely 40. My sister, 50 km north of here had over 110. Places on the west coast of Vancouver Island had 300-500 mm. Lots of power outages, mud slides and flooding, but not here. Thank you, Olympic Mountains. Long may you stand tall!  ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 12 December 2014, 17:59:12
Joan, they were using kayaks to get around the streets of Los Angeles last night on the news - on gentleman who had been the only to leave his car in a parking lot was standing next to it with water up past his waist.  A very serious storm.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: AvastMH on 13 December 2014, 08:48:44
Wow Janet, that's a bit grim!  The water looks exciting - but there's a lot of different types of water in there (let's not dwell etc) (yuk)...

(http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/640x480q90/673/Tn5VLH.png)


scary story from elderly folks caught in the rainy mess....http://news.yahoo.com/california-storm-hits-south-drenching-north-084922404.html
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Thursday Next on 13 December 2014, 14:54:28
Geminids meteor shower: http://www.theguardian.com/science/2014/dec/12/geminids-meteor-shower-britain-hopes-clear-skies
Apparently visible from almost anywhere on the planet.  (And, fingers crossed, we have clear skies forecast for Devon tonight.) 
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: AvastMH on 13 December 2014, 15:07:35
Wowee - thanks - I'll nip outside in a couple of hours time...well wrapped up though.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 13 December 2014, 15:11:38
No hope of seeing them in Chicago, dense clouds keeping us above freezing (in the daytime anyway) without raining on us.  December weather has been worse.  :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Caro on 13 December 2014, 16:49:18
Hmmm. I'll keep watch from indoors, I think.  :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Hanibal94 on 13 December 2014, 19:04:24
I slipped out and took a look, but there's way too many clouds here.
So I'm heading off to bed now. Good night.

(https://i.chzbgr.com/maxW500/8391512064/hD8AD7F7A/)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: AvastMH on 13 December 2014, 19:09:59
well I braved -4C outside for an hour - good meteors, not exactly storm force, but quite good - just can't make it 'til 2 a.m. :D (why is it always 2 am??  :-\) Crystal clear sky - sorry you had cloud across the Channel Hanibal. :(
I'm just taking my two lumps of ice feet to bed...zzzzzz  :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: jil on 14 December 2014, 04:36:14
Checked before going to bed and it was cloudy here  :'( - but good excuse to not go out in the cold  :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Randi on 14 December 2014, 07:12:13
Mega volcanism indicted in dinosaur demise (https://www.sciencenews.org/article/mega-volcanism-indicted-dinosaur-demise?tgt=nr)

If you want the full article, send me a PM :-X
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: AvastMH on 14 December 2014, 08:19:02
Dear oh dear - the dinosaurs really had a bad time of it...just the wrong era to be around.
It did remind me of this Larson cartoon though: ( ;) )

(http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/640x480q90/633/27GtuM.jpg)   :-X
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Randi on 14 December 2014, 09:07:00
I remember that one! ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Craig on 14 December 2014, 10:13:52
Perhaps we can blame the  dinosaurs for getting global warming started. Obviously there was already a tobacco industry  ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Kathy on 14 December 2014, 12:26:36
That has always been one of my favorite Far Side cartoons -

True story:

My son, when he was about 7 LOVED The Far Side - one day, when I was talking to my mom, he came running up to us and said "How do entomologists die?" and then proceeded to flop over on his back, with his legs and hands up in the air.  I had no idea what he was doing until I took a look at his Far Side book - he was doing a Far Side cartoon. 
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Randi on 14 December 2014, 13:00:51
Yes, I love the Far Side cartoons!

A lot were really, really funny, but one of my favorites (book in hand!) is with two women in a house and a huge insect at the door and visible through the window and has the text:
"Calm down, Edna... Yes, it's some giant, hideous insect... but it could be some giant, hideous insect in need of help"
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Craig on 14 December 2014, 13:25:38
Here's one of my favourites. (Don't be intimidated by this ugly link).

http://images.search.yahoo.com/images/view;_ylt=AwrB8ppA1Y1UfSUAl4WJzbkF;_ylu=X3oDMTIyYjExNWpzBHNlYwNzcgRzbGsDaW1nBG9pZAMxYzU2YWVhYTlmODhhNjNjZGY5MjJmM2IyOWNjNzQ2YgRncG9zAzUEaXQDYmluZw--?.origin=&back=http%3A%2F%2Fimages.search.yahoo.com%2Fsearch%2Fimages%3Fp%3Dfar%2Bside%2Bcartoon%2Blucy%26fr%3Die8%26fr2%3Dpiv-web%26tab%3Dorganic%26ri%3D5&w=952&h=1256&imgurl=img3.wikia.nocookie.net%2F__cb20130502205454%2Ffarside%2Fimages%2Fd%2Fd2%2F1987-02-03_-_second_lucy.png&rurl=http%3A%2F%2Ffarside.wikia.com%2Fwiki%2FFile%3A1987-02-03_-_second_lucy.png&size=912.8KB&name=File%3A1987-02-03+-+second+%3Cb%3Elucy%3C%2Fb%3E.png&p=far+side+cartoon+lucy&oid=1c56aeaa9f88a63cdf922f3b29cc746b&fr2=piv-web&fr=ie8&tt=File%3A1987-02-03+-+second+%3Cb%3Elucy%3C%2Fb%3E.png&b=0&ni=21&no=5&ts=&tab=organic&sigr=11vqvnq4v&sigb=138fqftif&sigi=12rmfug7u&sigt=118vt5gbp&sign=118vt5gbp&.crumb=cJM84YxIlMr&fr=ie8&fr2=piv-web
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 14 December 2014, 14:34:43
Those cartoons are guaranteed to make me laugh.  I do love them. :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Thursday Next on 14 December 2014, 15:13:29
well I braved -4C outside for an hour - good meteors, not exactly storm force, but quite good - just can't make it 'til 2 a.m. :D (why is it always 2 am??  :-\) Crystal clear sky - sorry you had cloud across the Channel Hanibal. :(
I'm just taking my two lumps of ice feet to bed...zzzzzz  :)

I only managed to stick it for half an hour, in which time I saw three meteors.  The sky was partly covered by thin cloud so that might be why I didn't see very many.  But in many ways I was quite please to see the cloud as that heralded milder weather!  At least I saw something!
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Dean on 15 December 2014, 10:45:29
Yes, I love the Far Side cartoons!

A lot were really, really funny, but one of my favorites (book in hand!) is with two women in a house and a huge insect at the door and visible through the window and has the text:
"Calm down, Edna... Yes, it's some giant, hideous insect... but it could be some giant, hideous insect in need of help"



Those cartoons are guaranteed to make me laugh.  I do love them. :)


 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Hanibal94 on 15 December 2014, 15:56:42
The BBC recently re-released one of their classic documentary series, The Great War, on their iPlayer.
Thought some of you might be interested in the sixth and final part: It's about the Royal Navy and the German High Sea Fleet, their strengths and weaknesses and several early naval battles like the Falkland Islands.
You can find it here: http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b0074p1v/the-great-war-6-so-sleep-easy-in-your-beds

Oh, and those of you outside of the UK will need to get Hola Better Internet, a free browser extension that lets you access websites via proxy servers in foreign countries. I've used it to trick them into thinking I'm in the UK, and it works very well.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: tastiger on 15 December 2014, 19:33:20
I've seen a few Far Side cartoons here and there. I was a Calvin and Hobbs fan growing up (although I was so young at the time I thought the tiger was supposed to be real). They have one posted in one of my dorms bathroom stalls, but unfortunately I can't find a picture online of it...
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Caro on 16 December 2014, 02:57:16
The BBC recently re-released one of their classic documentary series, The Great War, on their iPlayer.
Thought some of you might be interested in the sixth and final part: It's about the Royal Navy and the German High Sea Fleet, their strengths and weaknesses and several early naval battles like the Falkland Islands.
You can find it here: http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b0074p1v/the-great-war-6-so-sleep-easy-in-your-beds

It's a fascinating program in many ways. Thanks for posting, Hanibal.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Randi on 16 December 2014, 08:50:33
Microbes discovered by deepest marine drill analysed (http://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-30489814)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Danny252 on 17 December 2014, 03:14:17
Quite a number of our ships have visited San Francisco, some for quite long periods of time.

I came across a link to this photograph of SF in 1906 (http://imgur.com/5N6NU35). It was taken six weeks after the 1906 earthquake, and shows quite a number of docked ships, plus some in the bay - perhaps someone will spot their own ship!
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Dean on 17 December 2014, 11:14:01
I've seen a few Far Side cartoons here and there. I was a Calvin and Hobbs fan growing up (although I was so young at the time I thought the tiger was supposed to be real). They have one posted in one of my dorms bathroom stalls, but unfortunately I can't find a picture online of it...

Love them both AND add Charles Schultz and Snoopy!!  ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Randi on 17 December 2014, 12:39:50
I liked Calvin and Hobbs too ;D
I haven't seen any for a long time.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: AvastMH on 17 December 2014, 15:27:34
Calvin and Hobbes is great. I recall Calvin getting up one day and his clothes drawer attacked him, so he appeared in checks on top, with stripes on his jacket, and paisley trousers.  ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Hanibal94 on 17 December 2014, 15:44:39
Calvin and Hobbes was my favorite when I was a kid!
I liked it so much, my parents were able to force me to be good by threatening to take the books away if I was bad.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: AvastMH on 17 December 2014, 15:49:08
 ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Randi on 18 December 2014, 02:27:21
Volume of world's oldest water estimated (http://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-30527357)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Caro on 18 December 2014, 05:14:00
The volume of water is staggering. Likewise its estimated age.

Ice pancakes, anyone? http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-30528194
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 18 December 2014, 09:58:24
Both articles very interesting.  :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: AvastMH on 18 December 2014, 11:03:16
Yes - fascinating. Can't wait to find out if my friends living next to Aberdeen saw them 'in the flesh'...or in the 'foam'.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Caro on 20 December 2014, 04:05:36
Hello OW.
Interesting stuff: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-30471542
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: AvastMH on 20 December 2014, 04:53:46
Morning Caro - fascinating article indeed!
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: elizabeth on 20 December 2014, 08:08:04
 :o Oh my Just got off work....Driving down my street.  A Big tree down...No apparent injuries. I do not know if any cars got crushed.  Was able to get to my parking spot.  I do not known if if I will be able to get out tomorrow.  A bit of wet weather at the moment. ::)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 20 December 2014, 10:13:47
Just be careful, Elizabeth.

First reaction I had to that article is, when are they going to launch Glacier Zoo?   8)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Hanibal94 on 20 December 2014, 10:20:02
Good morning OW.

Something for everybody: Santa's Jigsaw (http://www.jacquielawson.com/viewcard.asp?code=ER13610552)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Randi on 20 December 2014, 10:23:52
Thank you, Hanibal94!

I love jigsaw puzzles ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Helen J on 20 December 2014, 11:09:10
Thank's hanibal - that was fun ....  :D
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 20 December 2014, 11:12:05
I like that one.  :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Thursday Next on 20 December 2014, 15:13:15
Thanks Hanibal!
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: AvastMH on 20 December 2014, 16:42:07
I had to wait 'til the last piece went in to work it out. Lots of fun. ;) ;) ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Randi on 21 December 2014, 03:25:06
Belated
Happy Birthday
to
tastiger!


Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: AvastMH on 21 December 2014, 03:33:24

And from me, Tastiger! Happy belated birthday!!

(http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/640x480q90/661/gUOc4x.jpg)   ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Caro on 21 December 2014, 04:01:09
Belated birthday greetings Tastiger!

Good morning all and happy winter/summer solstice.  :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: jil on 21 December 2014, 04:18:55
Hope you had a good birthday Tastiger.

Happy Solstice!
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Randi on 21 December 2014, 04:59:42
Why do mornings still get darker after the winter solstice? (http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-30549149)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Craig on 21 December 2014, 06:48:48
Nothing is perfect under the sun  ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: jil on 21 December 2014, 07:02:08
Fascinating article! I did know that the shortest day didn't neccessarily mean that the mornings would start get lighter but I never knew why. It doesn't help that the standard winter weather for northern England is 'od', so it's not always easy to tell when the sun has risen.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Dean on 21 December 2014, 08:07:25
Why do mornings still get darker after the winter solstice? (http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-30549149)

As my good friend often says....."Don't worry. It's always darkest just before it goes to pitch black!!"   ;)
         
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Randi on 21 December 2014, 08:11:15
... And, the light at the end of the tunnel is probably an oncoming train ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Dean on 21 December 2014, 08:12:11
... And, the light at the end of the tunnel is probably an oncoming train ;D

You betcha!!!!!!!! ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 21 December 2014, 10:03:24
If our very accurate GMT clocks that say it is noon are out of sync with the sun, do sailors wanting to use noon to determine location by sextant still needing to ignore the clock and go by AST?  (Approximate Ship Time)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: tastiger on 21 December 2014, 14:35:37
Belated
Happy Birthday
to
tastiger


And from me, Tastiger! Happy belated birthday!!
  ;D
Belated birthday greetings Tastiger!

Good morning all and happy winter/summer solstice.  :)
Hope you had a good birthday Tastiger.

Happy Solstice!

Thanks everyone! :D
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: jil on 22 December 2014, 04:51:47
An early Happy Christmas to everyone!

I'm away for a week - there is WiFi where I'm going but they say it's not available everywhere in the building. I'm hoping I don't get too many withdrawal symptoms  ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Randi on 22 December 2014, 05:06:20
An early Happy Christmas to you too,
and a safe and happy vacation!
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Caro on 22 December 2014, 06:19:23
Happy hols, Janet.  :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: propriome on 22 December 2014, 06:32:01
Happy holidays and Merry Christmas jil!  :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Helen J on 22 December 2014, 06:40:49
I hope you can get just as much of OW as you need ....
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: jil on 22 December 2014, 12:56:57
Thanks all - the WiFi works!!
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Helen J on 22 December 2014, 13:01:44
Yes, I can tell you've been transcribing ....  ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Randi on 22 December 2014, 13:08:36
 ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Hanibal94 on 22 December 2014, 13:27:23
Great to hear you're still with us, Jil!

I'm also on vacation - staying with relatives in New Jersey -, but I'm still transcribing.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Randi on 22 December 2014, 13:32:12
Hanibal94: Enjoy your vacation - and your grandmother's cooking!
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Helen J on 22 December 2014, 13:35:42
Have a great holiday, hanibal (or even vacation).
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: AvastMH on 22 December 2014, 15:32:28
Happy holidays jil and Hanibal!!!  I'm also away at a friend's but keeping, just, in touch. Not that I'm addicted in any way shape or form to OW ( ::) ::) ::) )  :D
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: elizabeth on 23 December 2014, 06:18:42
 :o Oh my you did it!  Thank you Caro!  Look at my Foxy all deck out for the season. ;D   :-* :-* :-* Best Christmas Present!  Thank you.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Randi on 23 December 2014, 07:38:43
... Not that I'm addicted in any way shape or form to OW ( ::) ::) ::) )  :D

Me neither.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Dean on 23 December 2014, 08:24:31
... Not that I'm addicted in any way shape or form to OW ( ::) ::) ::) )  :D

Me neither.


Addicted??!!  :o    Nah!!!

Merry Christmas and Happy New Year all!    ;D ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: AvastMH on 23 December 2014, 09:15:43
:o Oh my you did it!  Thank you Caro!  Look at my Foxy all deck out for the season. ;D   :-* :-* :-* Best Christmas Present!  Thank you.

You look fabulous Elizabeth - very foxy indeed  ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Caro on 23 December 2014, 11:43:03
You're welcome Liz. I avoided the temptation to give Foxy a big red nose.

This year's cake theme is adult, sophisticated ... pfffffff.  :)
The lights are not quite as subtle as they appear in the photo.

(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-Oae3B7HNs5w/VJmap_OnqpI/AAAAAAAAQh4/np4BdYflseQ/s800/IMG_1232.JPG?gl=GB)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Randi on 23 December 2014, 12:39:40
 ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Craig on 23 December 2014, 16:09:50
Santa looks great in his supporting role  ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 24 December 2014, 02:16:23
Googles Santa Tracker.
https://santatracker.google.com/#village (https://santatracker.google.com/#village)

For the Cat lovers, check out Iceland by clicking traditions (the Yellow pointer). %^)
First half hearted attempt at getting presents (Blue pointer) 1200 points
No idea what the green one is supposed to do.
3400 on Boatload.
Airport - no scores
1780 on racer
4328 on Matching
1320 on presentdrop
9300 on gumball
6385 on jetpack
Codelab starts OK then goes somewhere, no idea what to do.
1950 on mercator
Jamband do your own thing
santaselfie no idea
#commandcentre no idea.

Enjoy, gives you beatable tasks to do.

For the less age challenged there is the calendar to learn from, click the RED icon on top right.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Randi on 24 December 2014, 03:01:58
Victorian Strangeness: Four Christmas incidents (http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-30514644)



Turks celebrate Father Christmas as local hero (http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-30577800)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Hanibal94 on 24 December 2014, 10:16:17
I tried the Santa Village, here's how I did:

10300 on Boatload
4730 on Racer
16032 on Matching (made it all the way to the end on this one!)
8600 on Presentdrop
21750 on Gumball
33046 on Jetpack
With Codelab, you have to put together a set on instructions using building blocks so the elf can get to the present. I solved everything on this one (no score).
7150 on Mercator (beat this one too!)

I checked the other things, but none of them are beatable tasks.
So in a nutshell, I totally beat Stuart's highscore in every event. Mwa ha ha ha ha ha ha!
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Randi on 24 December 2014, 10:53:13
I'm not even going to try ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Helen J on 24 December 2014, 12:04:09
I'm with you, Randi!  I think this may be a generational thing ....
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: AvastMH on 24 December 2014, 12:31:44
No point in me even starting....I still need to get the last of my xmas cards written (oh the guilt!) - well - given I've been bad it saves Santa a trip to my stocking - and I see that as a charity to someone that old. ;)
(exits muttering 'must try harder next year' etc etc)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Helen J on 24 December 2014, 13:02:29
No point in me even starting....I still need to get the last of my xmas cards written (oh the guilt!) - well - given I've been bad it saves Santa a trip to my stocking - and I see that as a charity to someone that old. ;)
(exits muttering 'must try harder next year' etc etc)

Make them Epiphany cards, and then you'll be in good time ....
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Randi on 24 December 2014, 13:11:20
Nothing like having a highly qualified adviser on hand! ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: AvastMH on 24 December 2014, 13:40:17
Oh Helen - THANK YOU! Epiphany it is then..and perhaps I will have an epiphanic moment and be on time next year.  :D
I wonder is Santa has been to Stuart yet?  :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 24 December 2014, 13:51:48
I guess Santa came but he either forgot to stop or could not fit down the 8 in wood fire flue.
Looks like I will have to drink the scotch and eat the mince pie.
Oh, the thing we have to do for tradition.
Yours suffering.
Stuart
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Helen J on 24 December 2014, 13:55:10
 :D :D :D
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 24 December 2014, 14:16:53
So hard on you, Stuart.  How many friends are you sharing your suffering with? ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Randi on 24 December 2014, 14:34:48
Maybe Helen can give you some spirituous advice ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Craig on 24 December 2014, 14:47:37
That would be neat advice  ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 24 December 2014, 14:51:54
So hard on you, Stuart.  How many friends are you sharing your suffering with? ;D

What are friends?   :(
I have the wife with me if she counts?   ::)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 24 December 2014, 14:53:06
Hanibal.
It would have taken you some time to get those scores.
What I showed was my FIRST run scores.
I showed you mine, show me yours.  ;)

Like I said, "Enjoy, gives you beatable tasks to do."
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Caro on 24 December 2014, 15:27:44
I tried one: Mercator.
Second go (after I worked out what I was supposed to be doing) I got 6600.
The end.  ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Thursday Next on 24 December 2014, 15:58:05
Wishing everyone a Cool Yule!
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Caro on 24 December 2014, 16:59:44
Happy Christmas OW  ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 24 December 2014, 17:17:27
Happy Christmas OW
;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Kathy on 24 December 2014, 17:55:39
Any advice I could give you would land you on the rocks -
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Michael on 24 December 2014, 18:05:17
So if Santa is bringing nothing for Joan, and he brought nothing for Stuart, does that mean I can get even MORE STUFF?  I may have already got my metaphoric lump of coal - possible bronchitis!  :'(  I'll cough into my sleeve so I don't infect you all...

Merry Christmas, one and all!

(I still don't think it's possible to have Christmas without snow.)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Hanibal94 on 24 December 2014, 19:48:33
Hanibal.
It would have taken you some time to get those scores.
What I showed was my FIRST run scores.
I showed you mine, show me yours.  ;)

Like I said, "Enjoy, gives you beatable tasks to do."

Those ARE my first run scores!  ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 24 December 2014, 19:53:23
Yah, Sure they were.   ::)
Where did you find the instructions, I could not.   :-[
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Hanibal94 on 24 December 2014, 19:59:22
There are no instructions. You just have to use the arrow keys, the space bar and sometimes the mouse.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 24 December 2014, 23:50:21

(I still don't think it's possible to have Christmas without snow.)

We are having liquid snow here at the moment.

16c Rtl cum nim 0

Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 25 December 2014, 00:58:27
Here's a Christmas wish.

http://www.nasa.gov/topics/history/features/apollo_8.html#.VJumMV4A8

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-ZBpi2Pzi4oE/VJuoI4FVy2I/AAAAAAAABr4/vte9rVOpv68/w496-h397-no/Earth%2Bfrom%2BMoon.jpg)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: jil on 25 December 2014, 01:53:22
Happy Christmas to all!
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: studentforever on 25 December 2014, 02:23:41
Happy Christmas ! !
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Maikel on 25 December 2014, 03:17:52
Merry Christmas to you all.

Follow this link to see a corny animation of my self made Christmas card:
http://youtu.be/RWwqiXriGmI (http://youtu.be/RWwqiXriGmI)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: lollia paolina on 25 December 2014, 03:35:30
Merry Christmas Old Weather!!!

Nice animated Christmas card, Maikel :) :)
Thank you :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Randi on 25 December 2014, 04:12:02
Merry Christmas Old Weather !
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: propriome on 25 December 2014, 06:33:47
Merry Christmas to everyone and everybody!!!

(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-GA3uYAaFJJU/U1sF6vAblTI/AAAAAAAAHho/9Uhhz1brULE/s1600/W19.jpg)
(Not from Unalga, but still a 1918 Merry Xmas card from an USS ship :)))
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Craig on 25 December 2014, 07:39:27
Merry Christmas everyone!

Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: elizabeth on 25 December 2014, 07:41:24
 :) Merry Christmas everyone  :-*
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Randi on 25 December 2014, 08:11:08
Neat map, Craig!
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 25 December 2014, 08:31:45
Definitely a cool map.  Merry Christmas, everyone.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Hanibal94 on 25 December 2014, 09:45:49
Frohe Weihnachten, Kumpels!
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Dean on 25 December 2014, 10:03:56
Merry Christmas all (and to all a good night!)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: tastiger on 25 December 2014, 10:30:16
Merry Christmas all (and to all a good night!)

But I just woke up...

MERRY CHRISTMAS EVERYONE!!!! (Or Happy Holidays for those who prefer the more secular wording.)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Helen J on 25 December 2014, 10:32:13
Merry Christmas everyone - wherever you are in the festivities!
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: AvastMH on 25 December 2014, 10:41:08
Ahoy there dear shipmates - a very very merry Christmas to you and yours, and my heartfelt best wishes for the year ahead.

(http://imageshack.com/a/img661/3961/orvKAz.jpg)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: jil on 25 December 2014, 10:53:39
 8) ship, Joan!
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Helen J on 25 December 2014, 12:13:28
Wonderful picture, Joan!
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 25 December 2014, 13:36:56
Love that ship, Joan.   8)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Randi on 25 December 2014, 13:38:03
Love that ship, Joan.   8)
Definitely!
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Hanibal94 on 25 December 2014, 14:48:24
Great ship!
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Hanibal94 on 25 December 2014, 23:56:47
Tomorrow (the 26th), I'm leaving on a short trip and will be back on the 30th.
I don't know if I'll have Internet access during this time - if yes, I will transcribe a bit, and if not, I won't be transcribing at all!
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: elizabeth on 26 December 2014, 05:26:05
Tomorrow (the 26th), I'm leaving on a short trip and will be back on the 30th.
I don't know if I'll have Internet access during this time - if yes, I will transcribe a bit, and if not, I won't be transcribing at all!
:D Well in that case enjoy your short trip and have a good time.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 26 December 2014, 08:30:20
Enjoy and have a good time!!!  :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Hanibal94 on 26 December 2014, 20:52:00
Huzzah! I have Internet access, and it works well!

But since I'm on vacation, I shall do no more than the daily 5 date contribution to the Concord.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 26 December 2014, 21:23:43
Glad you're pitching in a bit, but concentrate on having a good vacation, Hanibal.  Tis the season.  :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: AvastMH on 27 December 2014, 17:55:17
Back home for the night and then back out tomorrow for a couple of days (28th and the next night) and will be out of touch. I feel 'cold turkey' coming on (and I'm not talking about left over xmas dinner  ::) ;D )
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Helen J on 28 December 2014, 07:22:17
Hope you can hang on until you're safely back ....  ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Caro on 29 December 2014, 04:28:05
Morning all. Wrong side of zero here this morning. Sunny though.  ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: studentforever on 29 December 2014, 04:57:39
Sunny here in Cheshire as well (visiting family - with Internet!). Pavements pretty treacherous with half melted snow & ice so I'm not walking out at the moment but it lifts the spirits anyway.   :)  :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Caro on 30 December 2014, 03:13:38
Morning all.
Saw this interesting pic on Twitter.

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B6FNsxCCEAA0Ra3.jpg:small)

Darling Harbour, Sydney.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: jil on 30 December 2014, 04:11:36
 :o  8)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Randi on 30 December 2014, 06:38:13
darling ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 30 December 2014, 08:07:56
Very sweet - makes me feel warm just looking at it.  :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: AvastMH on 30 December 2014, 10:35:07
Haven't got my reading glasses on - is that Stuart on that boat then - looks like he needs a sun tan - he's a bit pale pink.  ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Randi on 30 December 2014, 10:56:43
The search for Australia's lost hospital ship (http://www.bbc.com/news/world-australia-29569135)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Kookaburra on 30 December 2014, 14:25:22
Saw this interesting pic on Twitter.
I sure hope this is an inflatable, or else our view of the world is about to change dramatically.   ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 30 December 2014, 14:50:14
Haven't got my reading glasses on - is that Stuart on that boat then - looks like he needs a sun tan - he's a bit pale pink.  ;D

Joan, which boat?
no links on my pc   ???

(I did do 6 months on a ship called Centaur but not the hospital one.)

Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 30 December 2014, 15:04:14
I saved Joan's photo and attach it here.  She's thinking you are the sunbather.  ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 30 December 2014, 16:43:07
Nice one, Thanks Joan.  :P  (and Janet)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Craig on 30 December 2014, 17:21:39
Just think how fast Stuart could transcribe with 8 arms.  ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Hanibal94 on 30 December 2014, 20:22:38
But he would only have one 'finger' per arm, so it would actually be worse!
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 30 December 2014, 23:09:07
Ah, but I can always find plenty of suckers to do my work %^)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 30 December 2014, 23:57:30
 :o ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Randi on 31 December 2014, 02:35:56
 ::) ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Caro on 31 December 2014, 02:50:42
An explanation has appeared. The octopus is part of an exhibition:

@ANMMuseum‏
Kraken attack! This giant octopus has taken over our sub at @darlingharbour, all part of #VoyagetotheDeep.




Mapping the ocean floor at Fernando de Noronha (a name familiar to anyone who has transcribed or edited logs of RN ships on South American duty):
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-30571259
... in 15 seconds! :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: AvastMH on 31 December 2014, 10:45:06
Mapping the ocean floor at Fernando de Noronha (a name familiar to anyone who has transcribed or edited logs of RN ships on South American duty):
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-30571259
... in 15 seconds! :)

Must have a street wander along the reef sometime! Nice one. And just to say (to keep records straight) - thanks for putting up the octopus  photo...great fun :D
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Michael on 31 December 2014, 14:36:26
I think there is something wrong with the temperature display in our car. This morning there was a small horizontal line in front of the temperature. It looked like: -2C. It was the same thing yesterday morning, but it seemed to fix itself in the afternoon when the little horizontal line disappeared. I don't like these intermittent faults!    ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: AvastMH on 31 December 2014, 14:58:22
We had a corker on Monday night; -5 in Oxford - looked very crisp outside...beautiful frost by the a.m. Funny how that little bar makes such a difference! ;) :D
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Randi on 31 December 2014, 15:08:57
 ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Helen J on 31 December 2014, 15:36:43
We had snow on Boxing Day - and it's still very white and icy.  It has looked beautiful, but I have to say I'm rather looking forward to a thaw - getting out of the lane where I have to park has proved rather trying, although the road at the front of the house is absolutely fine.
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Craig on 31 December 2014, 16:30:26
We had a long thaw before Christmas and almost all our snow melted. Now it's cold again (lots of little bars as far out as the eye can see) but no snow. At least it's cold enough now that the ski operators can make snow for the hills. They're threating us with a -24 C sometime next week so I may have to put on mitts to transcribe  ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: AvastMH on 31 December 2014, 16:36:03
They're threatening us with a -24 C sometime next week so I may have to put on mitts to transcribe  ;D

-24C? -hotwater bottles to the ready!

(http://imageshack.com/a/img673/4715/MG4dnh.gif)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Caro on 31 December 2014, 17:24:02
Happy new year everyone!
See you in 2015. ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: AvastMH on 31 December 2014, 17:34:18
Wishing all of OW crew a happy sailing into the new horizon of 2015

(http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/640x480q90/673/fzHAGh.jpg)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 31 December 2014, 17:54:10
(http://vipexclusives.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/Playboy-News-Header-950.jpg)
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: camiller on 31 December 2014, 18:31:21
Happy New Year,  everyone!


I sure am missing transcribing and all of you in this community!  All is well here.  Home renovation projects have been commandeering my non-work time since the summer, with a few months to go.

Wishing you a wonderful 2015!
Carolyn
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: studentforever on 31 December 2014, 18:44:37
Happy New Year
Title: Re: Chat - 2014
Post by: Craig on 31 December 2014, 19:51:58
I am glad to hear from you again, Carolyn - I wondered what had become of you. All the best to you and all our old fair- and foul-weather friends. In short, to all our OW friends!

Happy New Year everybody!