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Title: Chat - 2013
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 01 January 2013, 00:19:56
The ball dropped in NYC, and the TV channel switched from their concert to Chicago concerts waiting for our fireworks.  Less than 6 hours left in the old year, globally. :)

(http://www.fodors.com/wire/New-York-Times-Square-Ball-Drop.jpg)
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Post by: lollia paolina on 01 January 2013, 03:13:42
Buon Anno!!

Happy New Year!!

May 2013 bring you all joy and happiness :)

Con affetto
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Post by: Maikel on 01 January 2013, 03:50:44
Happy NewYear - Gelukkig Nieuwjaar

How's the headache? ;D
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Post by: Caro on 01 January 2013, 03:57:53
What headache? (http://serve.mysmiley.net/innocent/innocent0007.gif) (http://www.footballerpictures.co.uk)
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Post by: jil on 01 January 2013, 04:16:05
Happy New Year!

It's starting hopefully in Lancashire. It's not raining and I can see a little bit of blue sky  :)
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Post by: Randi on 01 January 2013, 04:30:28
Happy New Year!

Here in France, or at least in Provence, it is considered bad luck to wish someone happy new year before the new year begins.
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Post by: Craig on 01 January 2013, 05:32:06
No danger, then. I fell asleep 3 hours before midnight. Happy New Year everyone!
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Post by: Helen J on 01 January 2013, 08:58:06
HAPPY NEW YEAR TO OW, WHEREVER YOU ARE!

Starting very well here in Oxfordshire - blue sky, sunshine, no rain, puddles drying up ....
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Thursday Next on 01 January 2013, 13:37:32
Happy New Year to everyone!

May we all have another happy year of transcribing/editing in 2013!
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Post by: Pommy Stuart on 01 January 2013, 15:03:43
Happy New Year!

Here in France, or at least in Provence, it is considered bad luck to wish someone happy new year before the new year begins.

Well, that's what we are here for, to learn stuff.  ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Caro on 02 January 2013, 03:20:13
Hello OW.  :)
Back to normal for most of us; another holiday in Scotland, New Zealand etc.
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Post by: Steeleye on 02 January 2013, 04:10:44
Good evening Caro, 'evening all,

Definitely getting summery here in the new year. Low to mid-30s in Canberra for the next week, while Adelaide is rejoicing at the approaching sequence of 39, 42, 31, 36, 41, 41 and 37C days.  Not very nice!

(Insert sweating emoticon here)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Caro on 02 January 2013, 04:39:48
I wouldn't mind a bit of heat but 42 is a bit too much!
Cloudy and 5C here.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 02 January 2013, 05:20:05
Here's one you can use, Howard,  http://www.desismileys.com/smileys/desismileys_1846.gif
(http://www.desismileys.com/smileys/desismileys_1846.gif)

Chicago's record breaking "warm" spell ended yesterday - for the first time in history we went 310 days straight with all highs above freezing.  Our snow drought is still working on setting a similar record for days without an inch or more of snow.  And 2012 is officially the warmest year ever, overall average temp was 54.5F (12.5C)
http://www.crh.noaa.gov/news/display_cmsstory.php?wfo=lot&storyid=91085&source=0

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Post by: Steeleye on 02 January 2013, 05:26:14
Thanks Janet, that should do the job!

H
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Post by: Dean on 02 January 2013, 07:56:31
Much the same here in Niagara Falls.  52.?F (11.32?C) for the year.  Lake Ontario is 9.8" (25cm)  below seasonal normals with several other Great Lakes significantly below 100 year lows. It's going to be an interesting season if we don't get some serious moisture during the rest of winter.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Craig on 02 January 2013, 10:01:52
Just a bit north of you the temperature is -15 C, here in Ottawa-Gatineau, going down to -23 C tonight. But it is not consistently cold - a high of - 1 C predicted for Saturday. The jet stream must be bouncing around.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Dean on 02 January 2013, 15:05:22
OOPS!! Should have been clearer with the data !!!  ::) The 52F (11.3C) is the AVERAGE Temp for the YEAR 2012!  About 2 degrees warmer than the earlier record warm year.

This morning 2 Jan 2013 at 7:00am when I did my report for the National Weather Service the temp was 24F (-4C) and tonight should be around 17F (-11C). We have 5.8" (14cm) snow on the ground and so far the ground hasn't frozen (I have some instrumentation this winter because they are trying to determine how deep the 'frost line' really goes!)

This may finally be a 'normal' western New York winter which we DESPERATELY need sine Lake Ontario is 10" (25cm) below the 100 year average and dropping yet.  You folks in Gatineau may have no water in the st. Lawrence if it all leaks out of Ontario :o :-\
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Helen J on 02 January 2013, 15:25:56
If you can find a way of getting it there, you can definitely have some of ours!  We've had a couple of dry days now, but there's still a lot of flooding.  I took the bus into Oxford today, and where we pass over the river (Thames I think) there was no sign at all of the usual course of the river - just water and more water, and some boats which had probably been tied up to the bank now entirely surrounded by quite fast flowing water.  In Oxford itself the water was very nearly over its banks still.  We could certainly spare you some ....   :D
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Post by: AvastMH on 02 January 2013, 15:45:33
Was that Magdalen Bridge over the Cherwell, Helenj? - just happened to go across there this afternoon - the Botanic was looking fairly soggy.  If it was the Abingdon Rd then that is the Thames that you go over just at the edge of the centre of town. My friends live just along the way in Marlborough Rd looking onto the parkland that runs from Abingdon Rd round to the ice rink...the park is so deep in water that their 9 year old is rowing over it for fun in his little pump-up beach boat during the holidays.  ::)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Helen J on 02 January 2013, 15:56:47
No, it was the historic toll bridge (and traffic bottle-neck!) on the way in from Eynsham; and then the bridge over the river on the road into the railway station.  A lot of the allotments near there were under water too.  But I suspect it's the same all over - they're all connected after all.  I bet your friends' son will remember this winter!
I wasn't down as far as Magdalen Bridge today - and probably won't be now until we get back to lectures in the Examination Schools, by which time I hope it will all have gone down a bit.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: AvastMH on 02 January 2013, 19:38:48
Oh that's the Thames too Helenj..it's just a bit deeper (and normally skinnier) there as it goes through Osney. Actually that's a very religious bit of the river - it arrives from within site of the old Abbey grounds at Eynsham, then goes onto Godstow Nunnery, from there to Binsey's Holy Well of St Frideswide's, and carries on past the Nunnery at Osney past the grounds of the Cathedral at Christ Church. I'd never thought of that connection before now.
Sorry to hear about the allotments - not for the first time though! ::)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Steeleye on 03 January 2013, 00:24:06
Joan & Helen,
If you can spare a few inches of the wet stuff (or, if you want it in metric terms, [a few] x 25.4mm of the wet stuff), we would gladly take it off your hands at the moment.  Lynne and I are finding it fascinating to read your posts as we were meandering up and down the canal out of Oxford only 7 months ago.  It was flooding then also, but nowhere near as severely.

If you can get a copy of the December 2012 issue of the Scientific American, there is an excellent article titled 'The winters of our discontent', with the lead-in 'Loss of Arctic sea ice is stacking the deck in favor [not my spelling!] of harsh winter weather in the US and Europe'.  A preview of the article is at http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=the-winters-of-our-discontent (http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=the-winters-of-our-discontent).

It sounds like you should make sure that your inflatable boats are topped-up and leak-free.

 ;)
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Post by: Caro on 03 January 2013, 02:42:05
Hello OW.
Indeed. The UK has just 'enjoyed' its wettest year on record.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2012/dec/31/wettest-year-ends-with-downpours

Make that second wettest:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-20898729
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: AvastMH on 03 January 2013, 05:31:30
Thanks Steeleye and Caro,
Interesting articles...very crazy weather. I can't recall the last time we had a completely dry 24 hours.  :-\
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Dean on 03 January 2013, 07:36:57
I have to thank you folks for feeding my OTHER addiction! ;)

I'm halfway through 'The Eyrie Affair' with 2 more Ffordes and a couple Pratchetts sitting on the shelf!! ;D ;D

BTW - I NOW begin to understand 'Thursday Next' ;)
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Post by: Randi on 03 January 2013, 10:09:57
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-pacific-20897522 ;D
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Post by: Janet Jaguar on 03 January 2013, 10:26:34
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-pacific-20897522 ;D

The Sydney duck hangs around for a while and definitely trumps this:
http://www.nbcchicago.com/the-scene/events/Windy-City-Rubber-Ducky-Derby-52097242.html

;D
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Post by: szukacz on 03 January 2013, 10:49:25
 ;D
Monster! Monster!
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Caro on 03 January 2013, 11:08:39
Those monster duckies pop up all over the place:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/gallery/2012/dec/11/giant-rubber-duck-thames-in-pictures
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: szukacz on 03 January 2013, 13:20:52
:D Ghostbusters  :D

(http://www.adventuresinpoortaste.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/ghostbustersheader.jpg)
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Post by: Randi on 03 January 2013, 14:00:36
 ;D
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Post by: Steeleye on 03 January 2013, 14:49:30
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-pacific-20897522 ;D

The Sydney duck hangs around for a while and definitely trumps this:
http://www.nbcchicago.com/the-scene/events/Windy-City-Rubber-Ducky-Derby-52097242.html

;D

It's going to be a bit of a squeeze to get the baby in the bath as well.

 ::)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 03 January 2013, 14:58:47
Maybe the London and the Sydney ducks met.
That could explain all the Chicago ducks?
 :D
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 03 January 2013, 15:01:50
I admit, 44,000 rubber duckies (with sunglasses!) make us glad the main stem of the Chicago River is wide enough.  It does please a lot of young children and raise good money for the Special Olympics.  ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Dean on 03 January 2013, 16:23:03
Everybody sing....Rubber Duckie you're the one, You make bath time lots of fun.  Rubber Duckie I'm so in love with you!! ;D

A song from around here at Sesame Street - a kid's Educational Program! ;)

http://youtu.be/Mh85R-S-dh8
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Post by: szukacz on 03 January 2013, 17:03:24
How small is sometimes a man against nature.
wave (https://www.youtube.com/tv?vq=medium#/watch?v=t-HaTWIznGE&mode=transport)
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Post by: AvastMH on 03 January 2013, 19:15:40
oh dear -I think that rubber ducks were about my level of seamanship!  Fetch the Sealegs Tablets...  :P :P :-\
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Post by: Steeleye on 04 January 2013, 02:07:39
A really delightful afternoon in southern Oz today - 45C in Adelaide, 41 in Melbourne, 42 in Hobart.  In Canberra, it was an almost temperate 37. ... But heading for 39 tomorrow.

Swap you Brits some degrees for some rain?
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Caro on 04 January 2013, 02:34:33
Hello OW, hello Howard.
I hope you get a break from the heat soon. Phew.
It hasn't rained where I live for at least two days!
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: sean0118 on 04 January 2013, 03:56:24
Hi everyone, good to some familiar faces are still here. Any ships that you need help on? I have a bit of spare time at the moment.  ;D
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Post by: Steeleye on 04 January 2013, 04:23:49
More on the hot day that we have just been goingugh here: bad bushfires in southeast Tasmania (Hobart had its hottest day in 120 years of records), definite property damage and unconfirmed reports of deaths.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-01-04/forcett-fire-places-homes-at-risk/4453038 (http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-01-04/forcett-fire-places-homes-at-risk/4453038)

Bad day for the Taswegians.

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Post by: Caro on 04 January 2013, 04:44:21
With the heat come the bushfires. A sad fact.

Nice to see you again Sean. There are quite a few ships in need of crew. Take your pick (http://www.oldweather.org/ships/).  :)
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Post by: szukacz on 04 January 2013, 05:09:31
Oh, by the smoke will be cold!  :-X
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Post by: sean0118 on 04 January 2013, 06:05:31
yep was 41C here (Melbourne), pretty sure the dog would have melted if we left her outside.
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Post by: Steeleye on 04 January 2013, 06:49:35
Hi Sean,

Good to see you back on board.  This is good weather for transcribing and editing, while maybe listening to the cricket in the background.  Anything more strenuous and/or outside is definitely to be avoided!

 :D
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Randi on 04 January 2013, 06:53:26
With the heat come the bushfires. A sad fact.

Nice to see you again Sean. There are quite a few ships in need of crew. Take your pick (http://www.oldweather.org/ships/).  :)

Welcome back Sean, Happy New Year!

For more info see: * * * Index - Use this to find your Ship * * * (http://forum.oldweather.org/index.php?topic=3210.0)
 ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: sean0118 on 04 January 2013, 20:03:05
Thanks everyone.

On the topic of rubber ducks and oceans:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Friendly_Floatees

 ;)
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Post by: Randi on 05 January 2013, 03:04:24
 8)
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Post by: Caro on 05 January 2013, 03:42:54
Hello OW.
 
Animal pics. Many wonderful, some sad:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/gallery/2013/jan/04/week-in-wildlife-in-pictures#/?picture=401877591&index=11

Love no 12.  :D
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Post by: Helen J on 05 January 2013, 09:27:29
I especially like nos 2 and 16.

This one is fun too: http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/gallery/2013/jan/03/london-zoo-annual-stocktake-gallery?intcmp=239#/?picture=401855403&index=0

My favourites - 7, and 8.
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Post by: jil on 05 January 2013, 11:20:30
I agree with 7 & 8!

I wonder what they do if they find some animals have gone missing?
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Post by: Helen J on 05 January 2013, 11:44:41
Declare them to be deserters?   :D
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Post by: Randi on 05 January 2013, 13:24:18
Disrate them!
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Post by: Helen J on 05 January 2013, 13:41:20
And stop their rations!
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Post by: Thursday Next on 05 January 2013, 13:47:41
Wouldn't that be shutting the stable door after the horse has bolted? (almost literally!)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Helen J on 05 January 2013, 14:02:40
Indeed - though it didn't seem to stop them on board our various ships.

On the Zoo's counting day - I saw a wonderful picture in a newspaper of the penguin counter sitting beside a sign saying 'line up here to be counted' - I think it was cunningly placed beside a bucket of fish, so may well have worked!
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Caro on 06 January 2013, 05:07:26
Hello OW.
Today ... fog. :P

Personally, I have had enough of cake (shock!) and cooking but there is this:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/food/0/20915415
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Craig on 06 January 2013, 06:00:29
In my community (in west Quebec) there is a "f?te des rois" every year at this time. I haven't attend for some years now but normally all guests get a piece of galette like the one shown and the man and woman who find a little pea in their slice become the king and queen for the year. This is put on by a Quebec group that promotes French language and culture. I never been the king but I think the powers were quite limited.  ;D The event used to be a lot of fun with traditional music and dances. There would be a "caller" who would explain the dances and lead the singing.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Randi on 06 January 2013, 06:29:06
Hello OW.
Today ... fog. :P

Personally, I have had enough of cake (shock!) and cooking but there is this:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/food/0/20915415

They say that the 'f?ve' has been replaced by a figurine, but here in Provence we usually have both. The 'f?ve' is a fava bean (also called broad bean) and the figurine is called a 'sujet'. Traditionally, the 'sujet' is religious, for the creche, but nowadays it can be anything from a cake with the bakery's name on it to a cartoon character.
We have the pastry 'galette des rois' (almost always frangipane, but sometimes apples or nuts) and the brioche 'g?teau des rois' with candied fruits (which I find generally too dry and too sweet).
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Post by: Craig on 06 January 2013, 07:27:42
Do they have anything like our "fete des rois" with dancing etc. in Provence?
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Post by: Randi on 06 January 2013, 08:10:04
http://www.aixenprovencetourism.com/aix-news-marchesnoel.htm:
Quote
Dimanche 6 janvier
La Marche des Rois
Tradition proven?ale | 13h50 d?part ?cole St Joseph, cours St-Louis | Arr?ts avec chants et danses proven?ales : 14h Palais de Justice, 14h15 Statue du roi Ren?, 14h30 Rotonde, 15h cours Sextius, 15h30 place de l'H?tel de Ville | 16h c?r?monie Cath?drale St Sauveur | T?l. 04 42 20 89 58 / 04 42 52 63 15 - www.histoiresdaix.org | Gratuit
Histoires d?Aix et de Provence perp?tue une tradition vieille de deux si?cles : la c?r?monie religieuse de l?Adoration des Rois.
Suivis de leurs trois dromadaires et de leurs serviteurs, accompagn?s de nombreux santons, ils s?arr?teront de place en place pour chanter avec la foule les chants traditionnels de No?l.

There is a procession of the Kings in costumes with attendants and camels (and other animals too, I think).
Unfortunately, bus service isn't very good on Sundays (although it has improved recently).
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 06 January 2013, 08:57:51
I must say, Aix-en-Provence takes Christmas even more seriously than American merchants.  And in a much nicer way.  Interesting, thanks. :)
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Post by: Caro on 06 January 2013, 11:01:23
Don't stop baking yet. Here's another one:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/lifeandstyle/2013/jan/06/nigel-slater-epiphany-cake-recipe
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Randi on 06 January 2013, 11:10:16
I'm available for beta testing.
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Post by: Janet Jaguar on 06 January 2013, 11:15:37
I'll help sample that one!

All my childhood memories of Epiphany are puny compared to this European stuff.  The day after Epiphany was the day my mother stripped all the christmas decorations from the house and dragged out the tree.  (We did Advent for real, and the stuff didn't go up until the weekend before Christmas.)  And that weekend we had a festival church service with lots of hymns about the 3 kings.  And the church tree etc. was removed the Monday after that.

What  the two of you have sounds much more fun, and definitely tastier. :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Dean on 06 January 2013, 12:01:00
Problem is..I gained 10 pounds (4.5 Kilos) just READING about this stuff! :D
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Post by: Thursday Next on 06 January 2013, 13:56:10
Then there's the nearly one-mile long cake from Mexico ...
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/travel/article-2257044/Mexicans-celebrate-Three-Kings-Day-mile-long-giant-cake-Mexico-City.html?ito=feeds-newsxml

I can't work out how you could possibly make a single cake that big - surely it must have been made in sections, which to me makes it a collection of smaller cakes!
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 06 January 2013, 14:26:57
I agree with you Su. It is made up of lots of squares and should be called so.
some long cakes are made in one piece, baked in an open ended oven.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: AvastMH on 06 January 2013, 15:13:44
First day back at work tomorrow ( :'() after two weeks off (lucky me  ;)) - only one tiny remnant of xmas goodies left - two pickled walnuts for my cheese sandwiches. I wish I had one of these Epiphany cakes though!  Love almonds.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Caro on 07 January 2013, 05:49:16
Hello OW.

We've let anyone who may be able to help know that some of us cannot log in to the interface this morning.
Let's hope things get moving again soon.

Update: problem solved. Phew.  :D
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Dean on 07 January 2013, 16:36:06
Hello OW.

We've let anyone who may be able to help know that some of us cannot log in to the interface this morning.
Let's hope things get moving again soon.

Update: problem solved. Phew.  :D

What ever it was it must have started 'late/early' as I couldn't sleep and worked from about 1:30 - 3:30am EST.

Glad it's fixed.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Caro on 08 January 2013, 04:50:26
Hello OW. Plain sailing today.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Craig on 08 January 2013, 06:45:09
Hi Caro.

I was away yesterday and missed the rough seas. Highway driving was not bad, despite the snow.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Caro on 08 January 2013, 12:19:52
Soooo glad we have no snow.  ::)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 08 January 2013, 13:47:59
They made a point of showing snow cover on a national map (lower 48) and southern Canada yesterday.  Everywhere north, south, east and west of Chicago has snow on the ground.  Chicago and its western suburbs make a very tiny snow-drought island in this sea of white.  I've never seen that happen before.  Chicago broke the old record of 313 days without at least an inch of snow present on the ground yesterday; the new 2012-13 record is still growing.

It makes me feel a little better about the Lakes - Lake Michigan finished the year 12 inches below average, so I'm glad most of its drainage basin is accumulating at least a little white stuff.

Meanwhile, winter went away again after a 4 day visit.  We are back to frost at night and 30s to 40s thaw during the afternoons.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Steeleye on 08 January 2013, 14:26:50
We'd give our back teeth for a bit of snow right now. Not very likely, I suspect.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-01-08/live-blog-nsw-on-catastrophic-fire-alert/4455940 (http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-01-08/live-blog-nsw-on-catastrophic-fire-alert/4455940)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 08 January 2013, 14:50:04
We'd give our back teeth for a bit of snow right now. Not very likely, I suspect.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-01-08/live-blog-nsw-on-catastrophic-fire-alert/4455940 (http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-01-08/live-blog-nsw-on-catastrophic-fire-alert/4455940)

Sounds like you need to borrow some winter from Canada and rain from England.  Both would probably be glad to give these to you.  Really crazy weather, nobody's getting anything good from it.  Completely unbalanced globally.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Maikel on 08 January 2013, 14:54:27
Happy birthday to the Dutch Navy.
525 years and still going strong.

If only we could get access to their logbooks.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Kathy on 08 January 2013, 15:09:25
We would need folks to translate them into English - it would be incredibly frustrating to transcribe the words without knowing what they meant!  ;D  ::)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Steeleye on 08 January 2013, 15:16:29
But numbers ist numbers ... and they're the most important part!
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Dean on 08 January 2013, 16:01:45
We would need folks to translate them into English - it would be incredibly frustrating to transcribe the words without knowing what they meant!  ;D  ::)

Yes, but I continue to be amazed by the number of you folks who transcribe, edit, help in Forum who are NOT 'Native English' speakers!!

Thank you all! :-*
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Kathy on 08 January 2013, 16:02:44
well, yes, I suppose you are right  ::)....

But for me, the numbers are the brocoli I need to eat to get to my desert  ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Steeleye on 08 January 2013, 23:38:14
... or the aperitif to get to your filet mignon ...
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Caro on 09 January 2013, 02:42:32
Good morning world.
Glad to hear the heat has died down a bit in Oz.
And happy 150th anniversary to the London Underground.
Love this: http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2012/dec/16/steam-train-london-underground-anniversary
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: AvastMH on 09 January 2013, 03:48:01
The first underground tunnel under the Thames was designed for foot and carriage travellers - it eventually became part of the Metropolitan line. It was designed and built by Isambard Kingdom Brunel, no less, in his early years. During the tunnel digging they accidentally didn't go low enough and ended up with the river flooding into the works. Brunel himself stayed to rescue his workers from drowning. In order to not waste the tunnel he decided to pack the river above it. So he went, at great risk inside a diving bell, down to the river bed with wattle hurdles in a basket shape and filled with mud to plug the hole.  :o
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Steeleye on 09 January 2013, 04:16:34

Glad to hear the heat has died down a bit in Oz.


There's a bit of a bite in the sun still to come (check the colour scale):
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-01-09/australia-heatwave-forecast-one-animated-gif-map/4458006 (http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-01-09/australia-heatwave-forecast-one-animated-gif-map/4458006)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Caro on 09 January 2013, 04:19:44
Stay away from those deep purple and magenta bits!
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Steeleye on 09 January 2013, 04:58:25
We're avoiding those bits like the plague!
 :D
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 09 January 2013, 05:43:55
Astonishingly fierce weather down there.  Do take care of yourself.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Caro on 10 January 2013, 03:05:19
Good morning world.
I hope the weather is being kind to you today.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Steeleye on 10 January 2013, 05:03:53
Slightly cooler today - managed to get my walk in without melting.  Back to the high 30s again from tomorrow though.  Plenty of grass fires around and a few biggies still out of control:
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-01-10/fire-burns-near-unexploded-bomb-site/4459658 (http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-01-10/fire-burns-near-unexploded-bomb-site/4459658)

This all just a regular aberration ... right?
 
Things all good up your way?
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Caro on 10 January 2013, 05:56:04
I know someone who lives at Cooma; worrying times.
Sleet and snow >:( possible here this weekend.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Randi on 10 January 2013, 05:59:09
It's supposed to turn cold here.
We have had some very cold days, but mostly the winter has been fairly mild.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Craig on 10 January 2013, 06:10:46
It's supposed go up to +8 C on the weekend and rain with lows above zero. The "normal" max is -7  and the low is -17 for this time of the year.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Steeleye on 10 January 2013, 06:40:13
Hi Caro,
One of the major fires (the 'Yarrabin fire') has been burning about 30-40km east of Cooma since the start of the week.  It's burnt out ~9400Ha (about 23000 acres) so far.  It's officially described as 'Being controlled' at the moment - one step up from 'out of control' and one down from'under control'. If your friend lives in Cooma, he/she should be fine, apart from the smell of the smoke.  It's the people in the country who are having most of the problems.

Lynne and I are heading off for a few days at the Lake Crackenback resort late next week. We have to drive through Cooma to get there - it will be interesting to see what the countryside looks like.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 11 January 2013, 02:03:06
42c on the veranda today.

Don't worry Howard, the hot weather is bound to change as we are getting our household A/C fitted in two weeks, just in time for Janeece's 65th, (I can call her the old lady for 6 months.   ;D )

We are going to Tasmania in a months time with the caravan. I hope the fires are out by them.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Randi on 11 January 2013, 02:32:13
Good news Stuart!!!!!
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: lollia paolina on 11 January 2013, 02:49:54
Good morning Old Weather :)
Am I the only one having trouble with the site? Only 4 vessels available and 79 pages done (according to OW home page)?   
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Randi on 11 January 2013, 02:58:27
That is what I am seeing too. I assume the team is working on something, but I will notify Arfon just in case.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: AvastMH on 11 January 2013, 03:00:34
Good morning Old Weather :)
Am I the only one having trouble with the site? Only 4 vessels available and 79 pages done (according to OW home page)?
Good morning Sylvia!
It's a mess - dear oh dear.
I got in, but on the way to 'my old weather' I saw one little window that's part of the start up stuff (the 'we need your help' window). Then I was told that I was not following any vessels.  And yes - only 4 vessels there - Bear, Corwin, Manning and Rodgers (4 of our very earliest US boats). Crew numbers are also exceptionally low. It's almost like the state of things about October last year. Very odd. The Bear opened up at June 20th 1884 if that rings a bell with anyone working on it.
 :P :(

PS - morning Randi!
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 11 January 2013, 03:35:23
On login, I got half a page (sideways) of the Manning which is not my startup ship.
Home, Vessels, Rodgers seems to work.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: jil on 11 January 2013, 03:41:01
Me too! 'MyOldWeather' showing most recent logs as 6 months ago, from Beta testing. But then I didn't do any transcribing after Beta testing until recently.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 11 January 2013, 03:54:14
Has anybody done a voyage to Antarctica recently. I am looking for advise in selecting a trip.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: AvastMH on 11 January 2013, 04:01:06
I think that the Patterson is about to round the Southern Cape on her way from Rio to the Arctic. Just can't recall if the log gets that far. Asterix135 might know as he/she is way ahead of me on that journey, but I'm not sure if she/he has signed into the forum. Sorry not to be more helpful.
Hope you are well away from the fires Stuart.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: AvastMH on 11 January 2013, 04:03:34
Coffee cups down everyone - I've just managed to get into Patterson with no problems visible on the way there. Looks like one of our whizz scientists have effected a cure. Back to the coal face  ;) ;) ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Caro on 11 January 2013, 04:29:00
Greetings all. All the ships are back I see.  ;D

Antarctica Stuart? Not me. I try to keep away from ice and snow.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 11 January 2013, 04:38:49
I think that the Patterson is about to round the Southern Cape on her way from Rio to the Arctic. Just can't recall if the log gets that far. Asterix135 might know as he/she is way ahead of me on that journey, but I'm not sure if she/he has signed into the forum. Sorry not to be more helpful.
Hope you are well away from the fires Stuart.

Hi.
Fires over 100km away thank goodness.
I meant a modern day ship to sail on for a holiday say late this year or next year.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Hanibal94 on 11 January 2013, 05:17:50
Hello all,

HMS Rodgers needs some help. I've gone as far as I could on her.
The logs stop on November 29th, 1881.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Caro on 11 January 2013, 05:26:34
OK. Thanks Hanibal. I'm sure somebody will answer your call.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Randi on 11 January 2013, 05:46:14
Maybe they removed the duplicate logs?

Craig - would you please take a look at Yukon?
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Steeleye on 11 January 2013, 05:53:36
Has anybody done a voyage to Antarctica recently. I am looking for advise in selecting a trip.

Not for almost 30 years Stuart, and they were all work trips.  Not only have the ships since  either sunk (Nella Dan) or probably been turned into razor blades (SP Lee), but they could definitely not double as cruise ships.

There is quite a number of companies offering cruises (mainly to the Antarctic Peninsula), but I don't know much about their relative quality.  In years past, some companies have also operated ships from Hobart; the down-side is the 6-7 days of 'cruising' broadside-on to the Southern Ocean swells just to get to the continent.  Friends of ours did a cruise from South America to the Peninsula a few years ago and they certainly enjoyed it. They went with Hurtigruten (Norwegian company) on the NordkappNordkapp is a largish ferry that works  the Norwegian coastal route in the northern summer and then does Antarctic tourist work in our summer.  They should be worth investigating.

Have fun!


Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 11 January 2013, 06:55:03
My nephew Steve went in 2008.  His photo album is at My trip in December 2008 from Ushuaia, Argentina to the Antarctic Peninsula (https://picasaweb.google.com/stevebein/Antarctica2008) and his cruise ship was the "Ocean Nova".  He absolutely loved the whole experience, but I don't know much about the logistics of repeating the experience.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Craig on 11 January 2013, 07:06:34
Maybe they removed the duplicate logs?

Craig - would you please take a look at Yukon?

The Yukon is still where I left off - Mate's log, May 23.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Randi on 11 January 2013, 07:12:30
 :P
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 11 January 2013, 16:25:43
My nephew Steve went in 2008.  His photo album is at My trip in December 2008 from Ushuaia, Argentina to the Antarctic Peninsula (https://picasaweb.google.com/stevebein/Antarctica2008) and his cruise ship was the "Ocean Nova".  He absolutely loved the whole experience, but I don't know much about the logistics of repeating the experience.

Thanks Janet.
That company looks like it is worth looking into. Bit pricy but at Howard mentioned the sea gets a bit choppy down there and their option of fly out and back looks good.
I am also looking at Shackleton's Voyage on the MS Fram Nov 2013 run by CruiseNorway
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 11 January 2013, 17:58:39
Good luck and have great fun.  One of Steve's photos was of the wind map for their passage with force 6 or so winds; his caption was "25' waves? Pass the seasickness pills!"  That meets my definition of a "bit choppy". :)  The good news is, the tip of Argentina is only 500 miles from the continent, I don't think Australia is anything like that close.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 11 January 2013, 19:07:47
Wave height (trough to crest) refers the average height of the highest one-third of the waves. Some will be smaller, just tell me how you find those ones %^)
Seasick pills are reasonably cheap and Ginger also helps.
Since I left the M.N. I get seasick, go figure, i can't.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 11 January 2013, 19:56:31
As someone who has dealt with motion sickness her whole life, I can tell you it is caused by a dissonance between 2 or more senses as to what is really up and down and how violently you are or are not moving, which confuses the brain in a way that can be similar to symptoms of food poisoning or stomach flu - hence the better-safe-than-sorry physical reaction.  Having over-sensitive inner ears pretty much assures my sense of balance will not agree with what my eyes see, but there can be other causes.  Try various  combinations of focusing eyes on horizon and/or holding neck and head still and not nodding, turning or bobbing.  Or figure out why the moving deck seems like terra firma to your eyes or some other sense. :)

It would be well worth putting up with to see Antarctica I think, I'd just want to minimize the time of passage. ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Caro on 12 January 2013, 03:37:11
Good morning OW.

Only 1,640 miles of seasickness between Hobart and Commonwealth Bay:
http://www.coolantarctica.com/Travel/antarctica_trip_new_zealand_australia.php
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Steeleye on 12 January 2013, 04:31:32
Not necessarily seasickness, Caro.  Hobart to Commonwealth Bay will have the swell right on the beam, so rolling will be the order of the day.  Most people seem to find pitching, from heading into the sea, is a far more uncomfortable motion ... like going up and down in a lift every 20 seconds or so, 24 hours a day.

Fond memories!
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Caro on 12 January 2013, 05:27:17
Yes, I have been on a 'short' trip in those conditions.
What should have taken 45 minutes took close to three hours. Bleh.
I was too frightened to be seasick.

Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Dean on 12 January 2013, 09:23:51
As someone who has dealt with motion sickness her whole life, I can tell you it is caused by a dissonance between 2 or more senses as to what is really up and down and how violently you are or are not moving, which confuses the brain in a way that can be similar to symptoms of food poisoning or stomach flu - hence the better-safe-than-sorry physical reaction.  Having over-sensitive inner ears pretty much assures my sense of balance will not agree with what my eyes see, but there can be other causes.  Try various  combinations of focusing eyes on horizon and/or holding neck and head still and not nodding, turning or bobbing.  Or figure out why the moving deck seems like terra firma to your eyes or some other sense. :)

It would be well worth putting up with to see Antarctica I think, I'd just want to minimize the time of passage. ;)

This is indeed the main explanation of the 'issue!' My wife suffers similarly so she rarely sails with me!  :'(  With friends sailing and a doctor sister I have learned that - as silly as it seems - there are wrist bands that act on pressure points - which work amazingly well. My wife even wears then in the car sometimes. The are for sale at most of the boating type stores for usually under $10.00USD a pair, are washable, reusable, and quite effective! I keep a couple pair on the boat for visitors who think they might need something.

I'm not sure I should post a 'company' name here but if you are interested shoot me a PM and I'll send details!! ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Kevin on 12 January 2013, 10:31:42
Trips to Antarctica (Stuart). Here are my thoughts regarding commercial travel to 'the ice'. First choose whether you want to go to the peninsula region from South America or the Ross/continent area from NZ or Oz. The first option is arguably more scenic with mostly 'inside' passages and the trip across the Drake Passage from Cape Horn is short (three days). Out of fifty-odd crossings only one was truly awful and just one ended on a rock. The major disadvantage is the peninsula has been over-run by tour ships in my opinion. The other side is much closer to you and there are fewer operators. Second big choice is whether to go on a small expedition-style ship or a big one. I would choose the former hands-down since I don't get seasick, and well-run ones offer more fun shore excursions etc. You might go to the website of the Int'l Assoc. Of Antarctic Tour Operators (IAATO) and check out what's on offer from their members. I have personal experience with Heritage Expeditions (NZ) - VERY good lamb chops! Send me a PM if you have more questions. Or - get a job with the Australian Antarctic Division (cheapest way to go!).
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Caro on 13 January 2013, 03:15:02
Hellooooo OW.
Just above freezing here. Sunshine :o later, maybe.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Steeleye on 13 January 2013, 04:21:11
Back to all over the place here again Caro ... like a toddler's breakfast.  The last couple of weeks, it's been 30+ at about 8pm.  Today, it's 14 and I almost feeling like putting a tracksuit on! The hot stuff's moved a bit further north today - Thargomindah (SW Queensland) had a couple of hours above 47.  Not civilised.

A couple of years ago I did some contract work in Malaysia, where the daily weather went through radical variations from hot and humid with storms to ... very hot and very humid with storms.  Weather forecasting there did not take a remarkable level of skill.
 8)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Caro on 13 January 2013, 06:16:41
Don't fancy 47+ thanks.
Glad to hear it has cooled down in the south at least, Howard.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Craig on 13 January 2013, 06:50:45
+10 C with rain here (normal max minus 7). Almost like England except for the snow I shovelled off my roof yesterday.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: studentforever on 13 January 2013, 07:00:19
It is coming up to noon and I've still got the lights on.  The worst part of Scottish winters; not the cold but the lack of daylight with short days and lots of cloud.  I can cope with reasonably cold but bright weather much better.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Caro on 13 January 2013, 07:16:29
Hope the sun comes out for you soon Rosemary.
It came out here in the south for at least 15 minutes this morning. Now it's business as usual.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Steeleye on 13 January 2013, 07:23:02
It was also pretty murky round here this morning Rosemary ... smoke in this case.  No fires burning anywhere near at the moment, so it must have drifted in from afar.  I must say that I don't miss those northern England winter days of my childhood - leaving for school in the twilight and getting home just before dark as well.

Wouldn't life be monotonous if the Earth was flat instead of spherical-ish on a tilted axis.

 ???
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: studentforever on 13 January 2013, 09:12:00
True. When I was in Aswan a few years ago the locals got quite excited - it drizzled! (Apparently they get proper rain about once every decade but it might have increased a bit now Lake Nasser has established itself.)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Randi on 13 January 2013, 11:13:11
Stuart:
Tube 150th anniversary: Steam train takes commemorative journey (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-20998737)
Although, you probably know about it already ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Kathy on 13 January 2013, 11:23:43
Grey, foggy, misty and warmish here - high 50s low 60s here - and we were supposed to have a snowy winter this year  ::)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Randi on 13 January 2013, 11:26:49
It's raining at the moment, but we are supposed to have snow this week.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 13 January 2013, 14:06:30
Stuart:
Tube 150th anniversary: Steam train takes commemorative journey (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-20998737)
Although, you probably know about it already ;)

I have seen pics of the trial run last year but not the 'Official run'.
Thanks.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 13 January 2013, 16:08:55
I certain amount of cold came back, we're actually below freezing still at noon.  But it's a dry, very gray breezy day.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Caro on 14 January 2013, 02:49:08
Hello OW. The ice and snow have arrived.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Geoff on 14 January 2013, 03:14:47
Morning OW - some light snow in London, will get messy later!
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: szukacz on 14 January 2013, 04:20:34
Morning OW
Beautiful winter.
20cm of snow, temperature:-5C, no wind,
Who likes to ski 100-120cm of snow in the mountains.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: studentforever on 14 January 2013, 07:06:05
At last, a bright day up here in the West of Scotland.  Curtains back, lights off and much higher energy levels.  I don't think I could cope with living in the Arctic - I think my metabolism would like to be an arctic tern - Nov to Feb in Antarctic, May to August in Arctic, more sunlight than any other species.  Forecast gives us 'bright' weather, not really sunny, for the next few days!!!   :) :) :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 14 January 2013, 08:19:20
My answer to too much dark - working in a factory there were no outside walls on my office, ergo no windows or sunlight ever during the day - is to go a garden shop and buy lights with full spectrum for starting seedlings and maintaining house plants.  I've seen them called "grow lights" or "plant lights", and I put them in my living area and bedroom lamps so I get good light all evening.  I've been told scientists use expensive, carefully calibrated lights for this and make them ultra-bright so you can get enough light by staring into them for a half-hour a day. I'm of the opinion, if its good enough for plants when used constantly, it will be helpful for me.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 14 January 2013, 08:58:01
I'm going out to get coffee knowing it is 12F (-11C) on the thermometer, and -2F (-19C) wind chill.  Shiver!!!  We've had so much warmth this season so far, my body is NOT acclimated to this January reality.  The coffee is worth it.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: studentforever on 14 January 2013, 13:05:01
I've got a posh lamp.  I find it difficult to use effectively although it does work if I spend the right time with it.  Life is better now I've retired - at least I can take advantage of much of the sun we do have.  I'm too restless when I've got the light on-I keep finding things to do at the other end oft the room, in the kitchen,upstairs or whatever.  I need some low energy full spectrum, bright, instant lights to put all over the house to get the full benefit.  I still like the sun though,you can look out of the window and feel your mood lift.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 14 January 2013, 14:49:45
I do suffer from SAD, and get around wanting that mobility by buying grow-lights that screw into standard lamps and putting them in lots of them, lots of places.  Less brightness than they posh lamp.  Very much longer exposure. :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Randi on 15 January 2013, 02:13:39
It's SNOWING!
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Steeleye on 15 January 2013, 02:37:52
If you could send us some snow randi, even if only as an email attachment, it would be most appreciated.

Janet: after your post, I had to go and google 'SAD', such is my ignorance.  That is a problem I would hate to have.
 :o
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Caro on 15 January 2013, 02:46:03
Hello OW.
No snow here this morning, I'm pleased to say.
There could even be some (shhhh) sun later.  :o
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Randi on 15 January 2013, 03:56:52
No bus service!

We haven't had a huge amount of snow (yet!), but we are not used to snow here and it is VERY slippery.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: AvastMH on 15 January 2013, 04:39:29
Go careful and look after yourself!  :o :o
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 15 January 2013, 12:25:01
It must be a slow news day in Chicago - Sweden made the noon hour newscast when a cleaning lady stole an electric train and drove off the track into a building.  (Crazy is embedded in people, I guess.)  ::) ;D

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/01/15/sweden-train-crash_n_2477762.html

(http://i.huffpost.com/gadgets/slideshows/274830/slide_274830_1986632_free.jpg)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Craig on 15 January 2013, 12:39:53
That will make a nice long extension to the living room once the dust settles.  ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Randi on 15 January 2013, 14:47:44
That wouldn't have happened if she had been transcribing logs. ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Helen J on 15 January 2013, 15:06:26
 :D :D :D  Transcribing as the answer to all possible problems?
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 15 January 2013, 15:16:54
(http://www.smileyvault.com/albums/userpics/10001/type-smiley.gif)

 ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Dean on 15 January 2013, 15:59:10
:D :D :D  Transcribing as the answer to all possible problems?

Either that or EDITING!!!! ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Helen J on 15 January 2013, 16:05:40
It doesn't have to be OR, it can be AND!
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Caro on 16 January 2013, 02:53:07
Good morning world.
We have a frosty -2C morning with sunshine ahead.
Back to the editing and/or transcribing.

Or playing that Google game.  ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Kathy on 16 January 2013, 09:40:45
Good Morning to you too - Dreary yesterday; dreary today; dreary tomorrow -  :P

I would love to have been a party to that internal conversation: the decision making process would have been something to behold:
1)  Need to go to the store

2)  How?
     a.  car - No
     b.  walk - No
     c.  bus - No
     d.  train - Yes

3)  How to utilize the train -
      a.  ride - no
      b.  drive - yes

&c ( ;D)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: AvastMH on 16 January 2013, 14:24:06
 ;D ;D ;D
I fear the comments about women drivers ( ::)) that might come out of the train escapade so I'm going to throw this one in the pot.
 Today a VERY large supermarket in the UK was found selling 29% horse in its beef burgers. For those who wish to enjoy some very silly jokes the Grauniad has the following:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/lifeandstyle/shortcuts/2013/jan/16/horsemeat-burgers-best-worst-jokes   I'm guessing that they went alright with horseradish sauce.  ::) ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Thursday Next on 16 January 2013, 15:16:06
 ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: AvastMH on 16 January 2013, 16:05:21
Hannibal's been rounding up the OW crew of the Rodgers to finish her log. I had forgotten what a bunch of poetical love-lorn sailors they are:
In the middle of a blustery night off the Siberian Coast with snow and the like...
"A little blue sky with some stars shining brightly down"
Awwww -bless

http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/USS%20Rodgers/Rodgers_1881/b001of010_0130_1.jpg
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Caro on 17 January 2013, 02:54:20
"A little blue sky with some stars shining brightly down"

Lovely.  ;D
Good morning OW.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 17 January 2013, 22:57:24
45C on the way home from seeing our first newborn Grandchild (Olivia Jane ....)
They say it will cool down in a day or so to mid 20's.
Bring it on.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Caro on 18 January 2013, 03:07:54
45C? :P Blimey.
I bet seeing Olivia Jane was worth it though.

Morning all.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: jil on 18 January 2013, 03:19:35
Congratulations Grandpa!

1C here and the odd snow flake in the air.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: studentforever on 18 January 2013, 03:33:03
I can't imagine that temp, I'd have been wiped out.
Bet you enjoyed seeing the new wee one though.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 18 January 2013, 03:54:56
You could say that.
Sorry had to post one pic.
6 hrs old.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: jil on 18 January 2013, 04:01:19
Awwwwwww!
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Craig on 18 January 2013, 06:49:55
Cute little one, Stuart! Congrats.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: jil on 18 January 2013, 08:42:18
To go with the beef/horse burgers - WWII lard washes up on beach (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-tayside-central-21079285)

Scottish Natural Heritage said the lard was still a brilliant white and smelled "good enough to have a fry up with."
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 18 January 2013, 08:47:32
Congrats, Grandpa!  Olivia Jane is a winner.  And please keep yourself cool, I haven't been that hot since my job put my lab in the finishing department next to all the ovens and steam presses.  Be very careful of yourself, that's dangerous.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Kathy on 18 January 2013, 10:00:33
But is it a dry heat?   ;D

What a doll!  Congratulations!  Has she picked a ship yet?

What a wonderful grandpa you'll be -
to the new sweet cutie we see.
Dress up and tea parties galore,
when you take leave on the shore  ;D
And you'll teach her to be a great little Aussie!
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Kevin on 18 January 2013, 10:15:45
Another application I hadn't considered:
http://www.military.com/daily-news/2013/01/14/wwii-coast-guard-grumman-duck-crash-site-located.html (NORTHLAND is in Q).
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Dean on 18 January 2013, 12:43:10
Congrats, Grandpa! ;D A real cutie!!

-10C here with a couple cms of snow. Sunny and a promise of -5 by midday!! ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: AvastMH on 18 January 2013, 13:03:27
45C on the way home from seeing our first newborn Grandchild (Olivia Jane ....)
They say it will cool down in a day or so to mid 20's.
Bring it on.

Grandad (https://www.youtube.com/tv?vq=medium#/watch?v=6KJGJRd8pGE&mode=transport)
Fantastic news - great days ahead!  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 18 January 2013, 13:28:10
Another application I hadn't considered:
http://www.military.com/daily-news/2013/01/14/wwii-coast-guard-grumman-duck-crash-site-located.html (NORTHLAND is in Q).

I copied this, to use as a "suprise" when Northland appears in our fleet. :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Helen J on 18 January 2013, 14:24:23
Congratulations on your new status, Stuart.  She looks delightful.

I'm snowed in at college, where I don't usually stay for the weekend.  May be a good opportunity to do some more editing (as well as large amounts of studying as well, of course!)  ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Randi on 18 January 2013, 14:40:51
Oh yes, studying, of course! ;D ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 18 January 2013, 15:20:12
Thanks for all the nice words.
Looking forward to 26C today.
Enjoy the cool weather when you have it, you can always put on more clothes, I get in trouble when I take mine off in the heat, and you also have to stop when you reach the skin.
%^)

Helen, what had you in mind to study?   ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Helen J on 18 January 2013, 16:10:30
Stuart - I'm studying at a theological college, to become a priest.  This weekend in particular I have some Hebrew to learn for a vocabulary test, and a complicated essay on St Paul to begin to study for - plus lots of other things to read.  But this evening - it's editing Andes!
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 18 January 2013, 16:59:13
That sounds heavy.
Good luck.
Stuart.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Steeleye on 18 January 2013, 17:56:03
Way to go Stuart! We had our first grandchild almost 9 months ago and we are enjoying him thoroughly.  It only seems yesterday that he was a helpless little blob; he's now been crawling for several weeks and is working up the courage to tackle bipedal locomotion.  It's very pleasant NOT to have to get up at 3am for him though!

Yesterday was a stinker, wasn't it?  We are having a few days at Lake Crakenback in the Snowy Mountains. It made it to 37C yesterday - so no snow - and this morning it's so misty and cool that I wish I had brought my tracksuit.

Good luck with the studies Helen, but don't Get too far behind on the editing!

I just checked the website for my local Canberra newspaper and I see that we picked a good time to be away.  At 41.6, it was the hottest January day on record, and the second-highest ever on record.  37 almost qualifies as mild.  And the fires burn on.

Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 18 January 2013, 23:05:47
34 49s, 150 40e
3PM, ese, 16kn, 1015.9hPa, - , 14.8, - , - , o, nim str, 0

What a change from yesterday 41.5C local and 45C in West Sydney.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 19 January 2013, 00:49:44
But is it a dry heat?   ;D

What a doll!  Congratulations!  Has she picked a ship yet?

Waiting for another typed log (she is a bit young for 'real riting'  ;)

What a wonderful grandpa you'll be -
to the new sweet cutie we see.
Dress up and tea parties galore,
when you take leave on the shore  ;D
And you'll teach her to be a great little Aussie!

Your a poet and you know it.   ;D
Thanks Kathy and all others.
Try and wipe the smile off my dial.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Caro on 19 January 2013, 03:30:28
Good morning OW.
Still frozen here.
Glad to hear the temperature has come down a bit in Oz, Stuart and Howard.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 19 January 2013, 04:57:37
Your a poet and you know it.   ;D
Thanks Kathy and all others.
Try and wipe the smile off my dial.

No way!  Grandpa's are supposed to gloat and spoil the young ones rotten!  That's their primary job in life. ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Kathy on 19 January 2013, 08:29:14
Morning all -

chilly and sunny here -

It has become all Inauguration around the area - and is it kinda funny:  not that an inauguration is commonplace, but this time, it is simply another inauguration - which, when you think about it, is really the way it should be.

Also, after 3+ years of working on this project, I finally realized what the display name field was for - honestly!  How sad for a database designer  ::) :P
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Helen J on 19 January 2013, 10:27:38
I wondered why you'd suddenly changed name!
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Craig on 19 January 2013, 10:45:50
Anybody having trouble with the OW interface? I clicked on "I've finished with this page" about 3 hours ago and nothing has happened. I clicked again just now and I see a message at the lower left of the screen "Read www.oldweather.org" but it doesn't get any further.  Firefox shows the little moving circle indicating that it is busy ???
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Caro on 19 January 2013, 11:12:12
It's working fine for me.
Let us know if you are still having problems Craig.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Craig on 19 January 2013, 11:37:18
It works now, Caro. I don't know what happened. I lost a whole page of transcriptions. Must have been all the great poems that distracted the software.

I would like to change my name on the Forum too, Kathy - where is the "Display Names" field? I hesitate to change my username.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Helen J on 19 January 2013, 11:38:25

Good luck with the studies Helen, but don't Get too far behind on the editing!


Reporting for duty ...  Back on the Andes and making progress through 1917.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 19 January 2013, 12:46:06
In the forum headings, "profile" / "Forum profile" / "extras"

Using "profile" / "Forum profile" / "avatar", you can upload any picture you want as an avatar.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Kathy on 19 January 2013, 12:48:50
The Display Name field can be found thusly:

Profile hot button to Account Settings on the drop down list to the Extras hot button to the field Display Name and then position the cursor in that field and enter what you want your display name to be - this will not interfere with any other setting(s) you have -

Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Thursday Next on 19 January 2013, 12:56:57
So far, we are snow-free in Exeter, but I don't think you need to go far out of the city to find it.  Keeping my fingers crossed that it will stay clear here!

Lovely video on the BBC website of the tigers at Longleat Safari Park playing in the snow:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-21088766
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Helen J on 19 January 2013, 12:58:45
Plenty of snow still lying around here (Oxfordshire) - and there may be more to come, depending on who you listen to.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Thursday Next on 19 January 2013, 13:02:48
The Display Name field can be found thusly:

Profile hot button to Account Settings on the drop down list to the Extras hot button to the field Display Name and then position the cursor in that field and enter what you want your display name to be - this will not interfere with any other setting(s) you have -

You've definitely started something here, Kathy - we're all doing it now!
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Kathy on 19 January 2013, 13:10:47
 ;D ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 19 January 2013, 13:44:11
Plenty of snow still lying around here (Oxfordshire) - and there may be more to come, depending on who you listen to.

How much snow?  Chicago is in the middle of a record-breaking snow drought, to the point where the total lack of January whiteness is giving me the creeps.  I'd like to see anything an inch or more.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 19 January 2013, 14:21:28
A friend sent me this - it's a high school student's class project.  This kid is definitely going to go places.   :)

Our Story in 2 minutes/Notre Histoire en 2 minutes (http://marcbrecy.perso.neuf.fr/history.html)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Helen J on 19 January 2013, 15:04:23
Janet - only an inch or two here; further south and west they've had a lot more.  One of our brothers' friaries was cut off yesterday morning by about eight inches of the stuff ....   Hope you get some before long!
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Craig on 19 January 2013, 15:16:41
A friend sent me this - it's a high school student's class project.  This kid is definitely going to go places.   :)

Our Story in 2 minutes/Notre Histoire en 2 minutes (http://marcbrecy.perso.neuf.fr/history.html)

Very impressive, Janet. 8)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 19 January 2013, 15:23:59
Great project.
But did he pass?
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: jil on 19 January 2013, 15:35:02

Lovely video on the BBC website of the tigers at Longleat Safari Park playing in the snow:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-21088766
Great big cats!!
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: jil on 19 January 2013, 15:40:38
A friend sent me this - it's a high school student's class project.  This kid is definitely going to go places.   :)

Our Story in 2 minutes/Notre Histoire en 2 minutes (http://marcbrecy.perso.neuf.fr/history.html)
Brilliant!
Could do with a few more ships  ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: AvastMH on 19 January 2013, 16:25:58
A friend sent me this - it's a high school student's class project.  This kid is definitely going to go places.   :)

Our Story in 2 minutes/Notre Histoire en 2 minutes (http://marcbrecy.perso.neuf.fr/history.html)
Excellent.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Craig on 19 January 2013, 16:43:43
A friend sent me this - it's a high school student's class project.  This kid is definitely going to go places.   :)

Our Story in 2 minutes/Notre Histoire en 2 minutes (http://marcbrecy.perso.neuf.fr/history.html)
Brilliant!
Could do with a few more ships  ;)
;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Dean on 19 January 2013, 19:31:12
Plenty of snow still lying around here (Oxfordshire) - and there may be more to come, depending on who you listen to.

How much snow?  Chicago is in the middle of a record-breaking snow drought, to the point where the total lack of January whiteness is giving me the creeps.  I'd like to see anything an inch or more.

Same here in Western New York State. We are so far about 30" (75cm) below average. It's due to be cold this week but not enough snow to count! :-[
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Steeleye on 19 January 2013, 21:55:08
Just looked outside ... Couldn't see any snow.  Maybe later?

 :o
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Caro on 20 January 2013, 03:14:38
Morning all.
I see snow and little birds eating breakfast from the feeders in the garden. ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Randi on 20 January 2013, 03:53:45
Windy and rainy here.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: AvastMH on 20 January 2013, 06:34:45
Just mixing up trex (veg fat), soaked raisins, and millet to put out for the birds as the snow begins to fall again.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Dean on 20 January 2013, 07:23:51
Windy here all night. Winds in the 40's MPH with gusts in the 60'sMPH. 

In Knots 35 - 55. 

In Beaufort Force 8 - 10.

 In anything else HOLD YOUR HAT AND PUT STONES IN YOUR POCKETS!!!!!! ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Craig on 20 January 2013, 08:00:33
km/hr please  ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Randi on 20 January 2013, 08:04:45
Chain hangs down,
Chain horizontal,
Links blown off chain.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Craig on 20 January 2013, 08:35:26
Is there an ISO standard chain weight?  ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Dean on 20 January 2013, 11:07:45
km/hr please  ;D

64 - 96.5 KPH ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Caro on 21 January 2013, 03:09:08
Hello world.
About -2C and lying snow where I am.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 21 January 2013, 03:48:20
Is there an ISO standard chain weight?  ;D

Probably not what you meant but try this.
http://books.google.com.au/books?id=BIJjtXB_qHQC&pg=PA289&dq=standard+chain+weight&hl=en&sa=X&ei=x__8UL2NE4ehmQXRm4Ag&ved=0CDcQ6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=standard%20chain%20weight&f=false (http://books.google.com.au/books?id=BIJjtXB_qHQC&pg=PA289&dq=standard+chain+weight&hl=en&sa=X&ei=x__8UL2NE4ehmQXRm4Ag&ved=0CDcQ6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=standard%20chain%20weight&f=false)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: AvastMH on 21 January 2013, 05:10:32
Hello world.
About -2C and lying snow where I am.
It's an icerink outside our building today.  :(
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Craig on 21 January 2013, 05:45:06
Standard Handbook of Chains - not exactly what I wanted by I'm sure it makes for fascinating reading, Stuart.  ;D

It's -20 C (-4 F) here this morning. We're back to normal winter weather.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: szukacz on 21 January 2013, 13:15:23
Winter nightmare!
-2C and rain which immediately freezes.
Everything is covered with a 5mm layer of ice. Driving is roulette.
This ice storm
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 21 January 2013, 14:48:31
Standard Handbook of Chains - not exactly what I wanted by I'm sure it makes for fascinating reading, Stuart.  ;D

It's -20 C (-4 F) here this morning. We're back to normal winter weather.

That's the price to live in a lovely country, we are the opposite (very hot).  ::)
There is no such thing as bad weather just bad clothes.
Enjoy, at least you can do things in the cold, you just melt in the heat.  ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Kathy on 21 January 2013, 15:21:22
I hate ice storms - at least with snow, you can get some traction.  Cozy up inside!
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Steeleye on 21 January 2013, 16:34:59
Doesn't sound very cheery up there.  Here's a small reminder that the sun is still shining somewhere.  Photos from our balcony at Lake Crackenback (just got back from a few days there) and from our front balcony (at home) this morning.

Back to 35 later today, maybe with a storm (not of the ice variety).

 ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Caro on 21 January 2013, 16:45:36
Mmmmm. I like the look of Lake Crackenback.
35C is not too bad is it? I would really like a temperature of more than 1C at the moment.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Steeleye on 21 January 2013, 17:01:57
35C is 95F, which is a bit on the warm side for my blood!
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 21 January 2013, 20:38:08
Doesn't sound very cheery up there.  Here's a small reminder that the sun is still shining somewhere.  Photos from our balcony at Lake Crackenback (just got back from a few days there) and from our front balcony (at home) this morning.

Back to 35 later today, maybe with a storm (not of the ice variety).

 ;)

Thanks for the warm pictures.  We're on the slide down to about -2F (-20C tonight, with winds 3-5 force.  They are rating the wind chill at -19F (-28C).  No long hikes scheduled. ::)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Kevin on 21 January 2013, 21:16:58
Presenting a poster about Old Weather at the Alaska Marine Science Symposium in a few minutes. Special thanks to all contributors often found hanging around here  :)!  You can check out the poster (page down to link at the bottom):

http://www.pmel.noaa.gov/arctic/rediscover/about.html

It's snowy, cold and now dark here in Anchorage.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Craig on 21 January 2013, 22:05:09
Thanks, Kevin. I recognize your silhouette  ;D. Hope you get lots of converts.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 21 January 2013, 22:17:11
Cool poster!  I see NARA has started its own citizen helper site. :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Kevin on 21 January 2013, 23:21:26
Yes, though you'll note the Old Weather redirect on our part!
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 21 January 2013, 23:28:46
I very much noticed the very real advertising we were given. :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Caro on 22 January 2013, 03:04:45
Morning all.
Love the poster Kevin!
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: szukacz on 22 January 2013, 04:10:03
Steeleye
Beautiful ....
Only 35C is a bit much. I wonder how hot is the water?
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Steeleye on 22 January 2013, 05:19:49
It's only a small lake and quite shallow - probably mid-20s C.
 ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: jil on 22 January 2013, 10:30:55
Arctic ice: The exhibition that melts before your eyes (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-21125177#)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Caro on 23 January 2013, 02:35:19
Interesting!

Greetings all. 1C predicted today. Phew.  :P ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: AvastMH on 23 January 2013, 02:53:41
It's only a small lake and quite shallow - probably mid-20s C.
 ;D
Yummy - sounds idyllic - is it safe to swim in?
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Steeleye on 23 January 2013, 03:15:34
It's only a small lake and quite shallow - probably mid-20s C.
 ;D
Yummy - sounds idyllic - is it safe to swim in?

I expect so.  Antipodean ducks are not known to be carniverous although I can't vouch for the waterfowl.

[Insert emoticon of toothed duck here]
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: AvastMH on 23 January 2013, 04:20:38
It's only a small lake and quite shallow - probably mid-20s C.
 ;D
Yummy - sounds idyllic - is it safe to swim in?

I expect so.  Antipodean ducks are not known to be carniverous although I can't vouch for the waterfowl.

[Insert emoticon of toothed duck here]

 ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Craig on 23 January 2013, 06:18:15
Good morning all. -30 C this AM and we are hoping for a high of -22 . This should compensate some of the hot weather down under.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Craig on 23 January 2013, 06:49:18
Excuse my ignorance but can someone tell me why they are hoisting the Union Jack to celebrate George Wasghington's birthday? The Canadian flag was called the Union Jack before we adopted the Maple Leaf about 40 years ago. I thought the Union Jack was British?

http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Jeannette/vol002of004/vol002_055_1.jpg
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Randi on 23 January 2013, 07:11:19
We were British when he was born.
Found this: http://everydaysaholiday.org/george-washingtons-birthday/
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: propriome on 23 January 2013, 07:11:37
Hi,

I think it could be another kind of Union Jack: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_of_the_United_States (the number 38 in 1880)

Quote
The blue, starred jack is referred to as the Union Jack, not to be confused with the British Union Jack of the same name.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: olems on 23 January 2013, 07:20:10
Yeah, in Navy terms the National Ensign is the regular flag of the united states, the Union Jack is the blue and white field of stars.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Randi on 23 January 2013, 07:22:25
That makes much better sense! ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 23 January 2013, 09:24:51
I keep learning new things.  It makes sense, in that our flag is complicated to recognize at sea.  Wiki says (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_of_the_United_States#Future_of_the_jack), some of our military ships have gone back to using the striped flag with the rattlesnake "Don't Tread on Me" as their jack.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Kathy on 23 January 2013, 11:02:49
I can finally throw down in the low temps game -  ;D

17 F with wind chills in the single digits -  :P
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Craig on 23 January 2013, 11:44:41
Welcome to the cold crowd, Kathy  ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 23 January 2013, 12:05:28
Today is a definite improvement - we are now up to 15F (-9C) and the wind chill numbers are going to stay in the positive single digits F.  With snow flurries - we may accumulate as much as a 1/4 inch (1 cm).  The big chill may still be traveling towards you , Kathy.  Bundle up and keep warm.

And they are saying we may possibly actually get a real amount of snow next week.  January weather has finally arrived.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 23 January 2013, 12:14:15
This may interest some of us, from the Chicago Tribune.  "King Peter II of Yugoslavia long had the distinction of being the only European monarch buried on U.S. soil. Now he has the distinction of being the only European monarch disinterred from U.S. soil."  I never knew any European Monarch had been buried in this country.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/suburbs/libertyville/ct-met-king-remains-returned-0123-20130123,0,1556113.story
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Dean on 23 January 2013, 12:49:12
Today is a definite improvement - we are now up to 15F (-9C) and the wind chill numbers are going to stay in the positive single digits F.  With snow flurries - we may accumulate as much as a 1/4 inch (1 cm).  The big chill may still be traveling towards you , Kathy.  Bundle up and keep warm.

And they are saying we may possibly actually get a real amount of snow next week.  January weather has finally arrived.
I can finally throw down in the low temps game -  ;D

17 F with wind chills in the single digits -  :P

We'll send you some cold!  -6F (-14C) with wind chills at - 15F (-26C)  ;)  Janet usually 'sends' it to us as weather here travels West to East!  Not much snow but North and South of here got 'clobbered!' (http://www.desismileys.com/smileys/desismileys_6557.gif) (http://www.desismileys.com/)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Kathy on 23 January 2013, 13:18:47
I think we are going to get the deep freeze - and we are supposed to have a clipper come thru tonight -
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Steeleye on 23 January 2013, 16:45:33
As a change from the dry heat and bushfires, the northern coast of Queensland is getting dumped on by ex-tropical cyclone Oswald at the moment - 6 inches of rain in the last 24 hours and still falling.  Temps are normally in the low- to mid-30s at this time of year, so it should be nice and muggy.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/weather/ (http://www.abc.net.au/news/weather/)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Kathy on 23 January 2013, 16:48:24
Ya'll just cannot catch a break!
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: AvastMH on 23 January 2013, 17:23:52
I think we are going to get the deep freeze - and we are supposed to have a clipper come thru tonight -
What's a clipper Kathy?

Here it is snowing big fat soft jumbo snowflakes - the sort that land and expire straightaway.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 23 January 2013, 17:58:14
Rodgers in St Lawrence Bay.
North, Force 0-9,  that is some wind gust in the 1 hr period.

"At 1.15 brilliant Aurora began. Shortly after fell calm. Then sprang up suddenly from the north in a heavy squall during which the Barometer fell to 29.50. Moderated as suddenly as it commenced and after 2AM settled to steady breeze."
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 23 January 2013, 18:36:42
I think we are going to get the deep freeze - and we are supposed to have a clipper come thru tonight -
What's a clipper Kathy?

Here it is snowing big fat soft jumbo snowflakes - the sort that land and expire straightaway.

If flakes like that expire, you haven't been cold enough to freeze your soil and pavements.  ;)
A clipper is slang used by our TV forecasters describing a fast moving system that will disrupt life but be quickly gone.  I'm not sure if they mean we are being clipped by bad weather, or if it moves like the fast clipper ships in the days of sail.  Or both.  This below-zero arctic air mass is going to hit Kathy about 48 hours after hitting Chicago a thousand miles west of her, and had largely moved out of Chicago again after about 24 hours.  That's fast.  Thankfully. :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 23 January 2013, 18:41:49
Looks like Kathy is soon going to have to find someone to cuddle up to to keep warm.  8)
(Lucky Kathy.)  :D
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Steeleye on 23 January 2013, 19:54:43
... and the small township of Tully - notoriously wet - has managed 600mm (24 inches) of the wet stuff in 48 hours.  What depth would that be in snow?
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 23 January 2013, 21:22:17
That depends on the type and density of the snow.  From Wiki:

Quote
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snow#Density
New snow commonly has a density of around 8% of water. This means that 33 centimeters (13 in) of snow melts down to 2.5 centimeters (1 in) of water.
...
Once the snow is on the ground, it will settle under its own weight (largely due to differential evaporation) until its density is approximately 30% of water. Increases in density above this initial compression occur primarily by melting and refreezing, caused by temperatures above freezing or by direct solar radiation. In colder climates, snow lies on the ground all winter. By late spring, snow densities typically reach a maximum of 50% of water.

24 inches (600 mm) of rain would therefore be about 312 inches or 26 feet (7924 mm) of snow, if and only if that weight of snow didn't compress itself with its own weight.  When fully compressed (short term), it would be closer to 7 feet (2133 mm).   :o

Altogether, way too much, liquid or solid, no matter how it stacks up.  Did that poor town get caught by a tropical storm?
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Steeleye on 23 January 2013, 21:57:07
Tully was the lucky recipient of water from the remains of tropical cyclone (= hurricane) Oswald, which has been inching its way down the NE coast for the past couple of days.

Tully is situated on a very wet part of a wet coast and celebrates its good fortune with a local 'sculpture', the Golden Gumboot (see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golden_Gumboot (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golden_Gumboot)).  Nearby Bellenden Ker has Oz's 24 hour rainfall record (in 1979) of 960mm, or just over 38 inches.  Doesn't leave a lot of airspace between the raindrops.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Kathy on 23 January 2013, 23:44:27
Clipper is short for Alberta Clipper - it is a fast moving storm system that doesn't have a lot of moisture for snow - very cold air though.  Usually, any snow it may produce is dropped in the around the Great Lakes (not to be confused with lake-effect snow) or the west side of the Appalachian Mountains.  This means we get the very cold weather.  Sometimes though, the path of the clipper changes and picks up moisture and then we can get a lot of snow -

It is called a clipper because it moves fast - just like a clipper ship.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 24 January 2013, 00:21:38
Thanks for the expansion - and exactly what came through here.  The block of frigid cold came from western Canada, and the few flurries came in on its tail and laid down less than a quarter of an inch of white stuff.  Michigan on the east lake shore got lots of lake effect snow from it.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Caro on 24 January 2013, 02:52:41
Good morning OW.
More snow overnight here. Thaw by the weekend is promised.

Howard, the Golden Gumboot is ... unique.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Steeleye on 24 January 2013, 04:17:58
For those OWers with an interest in the climate and weather (which seems to be quite a few people!), there are three articles of interest in the 19 January copy of New Scientist.

The Editorial is titled 'Extreme is the new normal' and is found at http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg21729003.200-wild-weather-extreme-is-the-new-normal.html (http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg21729003.200-wild-weather-extreme-is-the-new-normal.html).

An article titled 'Welcome to Earth's future' is only available to subscribers (or in the hard copy) (The full list of contents is at http://www.newscientist.com/issue/2900 (http://www.newscientist.com/issue/2900)). This article focuses on the ongoing drought in the USA, the unusual cold in Asia of the last few months, and northeast Brazil, which is going through its worst drought in decades.

The third article, a bit topical down this way, is titled 'Australian inferno previews fire-prone future' (different title in the hard copy) and is at http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg21729004.400-australian-inferno-previews-fireprone-future.html (http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg21729004.400-australian-inferno-previews-fireprone-future.html).

All three articles are well worth reading, as long as you don't mind being unsettled.

Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Kathy on 24 January 2013, 07:33:48
As it turned out, I was not the cuddlee, but rather the cuddler - one rather proprietary pup plopped herself right up against my legs  ;D

We did get about an inch of snow from the clipper - just enough to coat the trees and grass and make everything pretty!
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: szukacz on 24 January 2013, 15:37:40
This is ice.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Kathy on 24 January 2013, 15:56:49
Is this in Chicago now?!  :o
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Randi on 24 January 2013, 16:01:46
In pictures: Ice covers Chicago warehouse after fire (http://www.bbc.co.uk/newsbeat/21179684)

What a pity; it looks like it had been an elegant old building.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 24 January 2013, 17:46:49
It was in the style of century old warehouses and factories - lots of tall buildings and big windows, and nice architecture.  And like many such, as Chicago changes from a blue-collar manufacturing town to something more updated, it was empty and abandoned.  I do not doubt it would have been reprocessed into apartment living if it had survived until financing for such projects gets back on its feet.  The good news is, no one had their livelihood burned out and no one was hurt, except one fireman who slipped and fell on the ice.  That was our first below 0 night, and I suspect squatters were using it for shelter and had built a campfire to keep warm.  And totally terrible weather for those trying pump out water and spray it.

They had it on the late evening news on the cameras up on Willis Tower - 7 miles away!!  The blaze was so enormous it looked like the whole block was going up like a torch.  It took a third of the fire department to keep it from spreading - the biggest fire in 7 years.  And today, they've been there all day hosing down hot spots and smolders, and with all floors and roof entirely gone, the weight of all the ice from the fire hoses is likely to cause those 5 stories of brick to collapse into the street.

(http://abcnews.go.com/images/US/gty_chicago_warehouse_kb_130124_wblog.jpg)


neighboring alley:
(http://www.trbimg.com/img-1359065532/turbine/chi-warehouse-fire-2-aj-20130124--20130124/768)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: DJ_59 on 24 January 2013, 21:01:10

That is a terrifying story, and those pictures are surreal.  It really does look like an elegant building. 
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 24 January 2013, 21:17:29
The inherent elegance of 1920s functional buildings is why so many of them now are condo buildings.  The shell is worth preserving.

It broke out into full fire again, in one corner, this afternoon.  The fireman talking to TV news said, that's why they are still there 36 hours after it broke out - all the heavy timber floors are buried under roof debris and heavy ice, and are still smoldering.

They brought out old equipment I didn't know existed.  "Big Mo" - technically, a "deluge unit" - a tiny, 1960s-era fire truck that looked like it belonged in a museum with turret guns, pumping out a combined 2,500 gallons of water a minute, made the traditional snorkels and tower ladders look like garden hoses.  The TV reporter said the stinky diesel motor rattled.
(http://www.suntimes.com/csp/cms/sites/dt.common.streams.StreamServer.cls?STREAMOID=qf$cBm0n24aMbN8qNUJrzc$daE2N3K4ZzOUsqbU5sYsgCj8dkov1cv$ouioG356$WCsjLu883Ygn4B49Lvm9bPe2QeMKQdVeZmXF$9l$4uCZ8QDXhaHEp3rvzXRJFdy0KqPHLoMevcTLo3h8xh70Y6N_U_CryOsw6FTOdKL_jpQ-&CONTENTTYPE=image/jpeg)
"It's operating just fine - like it was supposed to do," said Chicago Fire Cmdr. Dan Swift, sipping black coffee from a Styrofoam cup. "It's the largest fire we've had in a long time. So you've got to bring out everything you've got."
(Sun-Times Newspaper)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 24 January 2013, 21:50:23
Change of subject:  The level of Lakes Michigan and Huron (apparently for things like water level, the two operate as a single lake) has dropped 24" below average, setting a new all time record low.

http://chicagotonight.wttw.com/2013/01/24/great-lakes-hit-lowest-water-levels-history

Many fishing harbors fear being left high and dry.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Caro on 25 January 2013, 02:58:02
Good morning OW.
Everybody getting ready for Burns Night (http://www.scotland.org/celebrate-scotland/burns-night)?
Nothing to do with the pics above.  ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: jil on 25 January 2013, 03:47:49
Oh dear I forgot to get the haggis (again!). Perhaps a wee dram will do.

Amazing photos of the building in Chicago.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: AvastMH on 25 January 2013, 04:24:46
So this morning I opened up google and, with hope ever ready, plugged in 'haggis on a boat'. In the back of my mind was 'and it's Chinese New Year any day now too'.
Never would I have tried putting all three in together. Enjoy: another group of (dragon boat racers) sunny souls such as ourselves out enjoying themselves!

Address to the Haggis (You tube pop-out):
https://www.youtube.com/tv?vq=medium#/watch?v=D0GpCU3RIxI&mode=transport
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Caro on 25 January 2013, 04:31:59
Gung haggis fat choy! Too funny.  ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Steeleye on 25 January 2013, 05:24:12
... and down this way, we're getting ready for 'Orstralia Day' (26th).
 8)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: studentforever on 25 January 2013, 05:55:38
Well there is a chippy in Edinburgh which serves curried Haggis!!  I've never tried it although the real thing is acceptable even if not my first choice.  Don't like the whisky though (whisper it quietly).  I once had to reply to the 'Toast to the ladies' when the students decided to hold a Burns Supper which was a challenge - my first day back after two weeks teaching in Greece on an Erasmus course, so no time for preparation.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: AvastMH on 25 January 2013, 07:08:41
Ah Edinburgh, do they serve haggis deep fried in batter (or is that exclusively a Gorbals dish)? just trying to work out the calories per ounce...but my calculator keeps showing 'E'  ;D ;D :P
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Helen J on 25 January 2013, 07:36:42
We anticipated Burns Night here at college, and had it on Wednesday (which is our more formal 'dinner' night) - we had the works, haggis with bashed neeps and tatties and peas, followed by cranachan.  And the haggis was piped in and addressed, and then we had the immortal memory, and the toasts afterwards.  Followed by a ceilidh, with a reading of Tam o Shanter, dancing, which didn't quite descend into total chaos despite coming quite close sometimes.  Also spirited renditions of those traditional Scottish songs, the Jeely Piece song, and 'You canna shove your granny off a bus'.  I'm hoping the dancing helped to work off some of the calories of the meal ....  ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Kathy on 25 January 2013, 07:40:42
There are some things that you eat because you love them and they are delicious and those things don't get the calorie counter  ;D

For me it is fried chicken - I only have every couple of months, so down it goes, in all its fried, fatty skin, crusty goodness.  :P
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: studentforever on 25 January 2013, 12:00:02
No, the haggis is cooked normally, it is Mars Bars (Hershey Bars across the pond) which are batter dipped & deep fried but that is mainly Glasgow.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 25 January 2013, 12:02:41
No, the haggis is cooked normally, it is Mars Bars (Hershey Bars across the pond) which are batter dipped & deep fried but that is mainly Glasgow.

I never heard of that combination.  It sounds delicious and sinfully caloric. ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 25 January 2013, 12:07:00
Chicago's snow drought streak is officially broken.  The new record is 335 days without at least 1" of snow on any one day.  As of 9:30 am, the official record at O'Hare Airport has accumulated 1.1" so far today.  (The old record was 319 days in 1940.)

January weather has finally arrived. ;D

(http://www.smileyvault.com/albums/userpics/13911/0012.gif)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Helen J on 25 January 2013, 12:18:04
I'm glad you've finally got it - just as we seem to be getting rid of it.  They're threatening a little more this evening, but then it's turning to rain and there will be rising temperatures.  So the next weather warnings we're getting are about floods as everything melts into already sodden ground ....  :o
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: AvastMH on 25 January 2013, 12:32:16
Don't worry Helenj - I've seen the surface pressure chart for the start of next week - the wind should blow it dry..advice - lead line your shoes now!  ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Kathy on 25 January 2013, 12:58:34
If you want to try something sinful, then let me commend to you a fried Oreo cookie (biscuit?) OH MY GOODNESS!!!
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Helen J on 25 January 2013, 13:29:13
Don't worry Helenj - I've seen the surface pressure chart for the start of next week - the wind should blow it dry..advice - lead line your shoes now!  ;D

Maybe the haggis will help to weigh me down!
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: AvastMH on 25 January 2013, 13:50:18
Fried oreos and haggis - well - they make an impressive sounding ballast my friends!  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Thursday Next on 25 January 2013, 15:11:14
I'm glad you've finally got it - just as we seem to be getting rid of it.  They're threatening a little more this evening, but then it's turning to rain and there will be rising temperatures.  So the next weather warnings we're getting are about floods as everything melts into already sodden ground ....  :o

I heard on the radio that we should all be building snowmen as this will slow down the melting snow and help prevent flooding (not that I have any snow here to build a snowman...)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Helen J on 25 January 2013, 15:35:52
Yes, I think they've left this advice a bit late for most of us - though Scotland seems to be getting plenty more material to play with.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: studentforever on 25 January 2013, 16:42:42
We had our first real snow of this weather system today! However, it looks as if it will be warmer and wetter next week.  If there is any Christmas cake left, I find that puts on the pounds around my middle very efficiently.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: AvastMH on 25 January 2013, 18:41:09
Currently Oxford is getting a thorough washing...and blow dry all mixed up together....
Just bought a pair of yaktraks and now I'm looking for my water wings. ::) ::)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 25 January 2013, 23:15:15
Rodgers should be VAL.  %^)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 26 January 2013, 00:21:37
It's 100% but it just gave me Oct. 1st 1881 to transcribe.  Finishing crew needed to take her into the harbor.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Caro on 26 January 2013, 02:47:18
Greetings all.
Happy Australia Day to Aussies everywhere.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Steeleye on 26 January 2013, 03:10:58
Thanks Caro. I've just had a glass of Clare Valley riesling which went down rather well.  As soon as the current storm passes and the rain eases, I'll drive out to the suburbs to make sure our daughter's house still has a water-proof roof (she's away).  Australia Day celebrations were cancelled in parts of coastal Queensland today as they contains to watch the post-cyclone Oswald deluge drop out of the sky.  Gladstone has counted just over 21 inches of rain in the past two-and-a-half days; areas further south are checking their umbrellas for leaks as the rain depression trundles their way.  It would be useful if the rain fell in the same places as the recent bushfires, but that might be expecting a bit much!

Enjoy the day, Australian or otherwise, shipmates.

 ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Caro on 26 January 2013, 03:14:43
It's a bit early for riesling here but I might raise a glass of fizz later.
Enjoy!
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Randi on 26 January 2013, 05:49:39
Dad is watching the Australian Tennis Open (I don't know if it is live or not), and I can hear the fireworks.

Happy Australia Day!
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Caro on 26 January 2013, 06:26:04
And, UK dwellers, don't forget to count your garden visitors this weekend:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/nature/21059915  :))
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: jil on 26 January 2013, 07:04:39
And, UK dwellers, don't forget to count your garden visitors this weekend:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/nature/21059915  :))
Will be doing. Hopefully the sparrows will sit still long enough to count - they tend to flit between various trees and the feeders and I have to guess enthusiastically!
 
Should you be distracting people from their transcription?  ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: AvastMH on 26 January 2013, 08:11:12
Enjoy Australia Day Stuart and Steeleye!
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Kathy on 26 January 2013, 09:21:11
Enjoy Aussie Day - have some Vegemite and throw some shrimp on the barbie!

Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Kevin on 26 January 2013, 10:09:03
Non-unique mate's / rough copies are now taken down.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Caro on 26 January 2013, 10:58:43
Thanks Kevin. Good news.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Thursday Next on 26 January 2013, 13:49:58
And, UK dwellers, don't forget to count your garden visitors this weekend:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/nature/21059915  :))

I used to do this, but gave up as my garden birds all seem to go away for the weekend when the bird count is on.  :(
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 26 January 2013, 15:30:29
Enjoy Australia Day Stuart and Steeleye!

Thank You Joan.

Can defiantly report RTL for an hour last night then rtl for a couple after that.
We were (are) due to go on water restrictions very soon.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: AvastMH on 26 January 2013, 17:48:46
Bad luck - if that restriction does the same as our water ban did last year - meant rain pretty much every day from Easter through to September! Wettest drought I've ever swum lived through.  ::) ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: studentforever on 27 January 2013, 03:45:50
Perhaps you need a visit from the Queen.  She broke a bad drought in Africa (I don't know if she fully appreciated it herself though).
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Steeleye on 27 January 2013, 05:57:51
Enjoy Aussie Day - have some Vegemite and throw some shrimp on the barbie!

Hi Kathy,
I'm not sure I know any local who can stomach vegemite, other than occasionally and in small doses (preferably with the antidote close to hand). I think that the mythical Aussie love of the wretched stuff is a myth propagated by the manufacturer! Or perhaps it is a joke being played on the rest of the world. Vegemite is known by a variety of noms de plume here, most of them too uncouth to be reproduced on OW.

A minor correction to your post - shrimps are little beasties that get caught between the teeth.  The full-sized crustaceans here are referred to as 'prawns'.  But hey, thanks for thinking of us.

In Canberra, as in most places, we have a fireworks display on Australia Day. Ours was scheduled for 9pm. At about 8pm we had a ripper of a storm and the event was called off. Most people had gone home soaked well before the start time. Perhaps they can save the fireworks for Canberra Day in March.

The remains of Cyclone Oswald are still pottering slowly southwards, giving everybody down the coast a good soaking on the way.  Gladstone was I think the wettest place with about 27 inches of rain in less than three days.

Y'all have a good one. (I hope my phrasing is not too far off.)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Caro on 27 January 2013, 09:11:50
Heresy! I Vegemite.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: AvastMH on 27 January 2013, 09:47:11
Shhhhhh! Not so loud until I've covered the ears of my jar of marmite! :o ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Dean on 27 January 2013, 11:49:29
Looks like our friends in the UK are getting 'clobbered!' :-[

Stay safe!!!

Crazy weather!

http://cocorahs.blogspot.com/
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Kathy on 27 January 2013, 15:34:24
Your phrasing is pretty good, however, in the interests of accuracy, ya'll is always plural (a contraction of you all) and never singular.  I do wish TV and movies would get that very simple thing correct.  If you are watching or reading something where ya'll is being used to address a single person, thrust it away from you with great vigor and loudly denounce it as false!
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 27 January 2013, 15:39:02
Good (insert appropriate timeframe) to you all from a wet Bowral, but fortunately not as wet as further up the coast.

Being originally English, I get a little worried somebody may take me up on it when I enter 'Bath Me.' in the logs.   ;D  (ask Howard for clarification if you don't get it)
Concord Sept 1891
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Steeleye on 27 January 2013, 16:06:45
Heresy! I Vegemite.

Caro,
Have you considered just shaking salt directly on your toast for breakfast, instead of spreading the vegemite?  That way, you can eliminate the middleman.

 ???
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Caro on 27 January 2013, 16:51:13
No. :-*
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 27 January 2013, 19:32:57
I hope they do not mean this literally.     :-[  :o

9:50am
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Concord/vol012of040/vol012of040_022_1.jpg
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 27 January 2013, 19:52:53
(http://www.desismileys.com/smileys/desismileys_0856.gif)  (http://www.smileyvault.com/albums/basic/smileyvault-shy.gif)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Dean on 28 January 2013, 16:25:07
Dad always said  To be a 'hit' in 'Society' wear more or less than everybody else - preferably less!  ::)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Randi on 28 January 2013, 17:28:47
I never did want to be a 'hit' in 'Society' ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Craig on 28 January 2013, 18:48:02
I want to know if Dean followed his father's advice, and if so, in which direction?  ;D

Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 29 January 2013, 02:57:22
There is one direction I am not sure I want to know about.  ;D

Not telling which.  :-X
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Dean on 29 January 2013, 08:44:41
On the advice of my Solicitor.......................... ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Craig on 29 January 2013, 08:59:00
 ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: DJ_59 on 29 January 2013, 11:18:03
Dad always said  To be a 'hit' in 'Society' wear more or less than everybody else - preferably less!  ::)

Which makes you wonder if "sword" was a euphemism.   ::)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 29 January 2013, 11:21:53
 :o ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Kathy on 29 January 2013, 12:54:54
And now for something completely different -

WHAT HAS HAPPENED TO BUNTS??!!

Has anyone been in contact with him?
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 29 January 2013, 13:05:58
He was checking in with us once or twice a week until the middle of October - we haven't heard from him since.  I miss him.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: AvastMH on 29 January 2013, 13:31:57
And now for something completely different -

WHAT HAS HAPPENED TO BUNTS??!!

Has anyone been in contact with him?
Kathy - you spoke my mind - I just mentioned him to someone yesterday. I miss him too.     It is very sad if he has left us. :'( :'(    How can we lure him back again??
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Kathy on 29 January 2013, 13:36:25
Maybe someone has a way to contact him and at least see how he is doing -
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: AvastMH on 29 January 2013, 13:51:56
If he was doing some editing then someone could probably contact him...it feels a little naughty, but it would be nice to let him know that we care. I have my fingers crossed... :-\
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Randi on 29 January 2013, 14:00:59
I've been worried about him too.
He sure is missed!
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 29 January 2013, 14:20:24
He didn't want to edit, at all - he was asked and the job felt all wrong to him.  Doesn't at all lessen his presence in our community, and I still miss him.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Thursday Next on 29 January 2013, 14:26:51
Yes, I miss him too  :( I hope he is OK.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: szukacz on 29 January 2013, 14:52:53
 :-\ :'(
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Dean on 29 January 2013, 16:30:21
I seem to remember he said something about being involved with a couple things that were going to take 'mega' time and effort. I think one was connected to a 'church project' and one was connected to 'caring for someone.'  I,too, hope someone has a way to contact him and see if he's OK. :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Caro on 30 January 2013, 03:13:49
Greetings OW.
I will try (again) to reach B. Tosser.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Steeleye on 30 January 2013, 05:58:45
From time to time over the past few months I have wondered where the famous Bunts has disappeared to - but I always do my wondering when I am not near my computer.

I would love to see him back on board again; his posts were invariably both informative and good humoured!

Hunt him down!
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Dean on 30 January 2013, 09:26:55
Comment posted in the Editorials of one of my Boating Magazines re: hoax 'Mayday' calls made to the US Coast Guard:

"Call me old fashioned, but I miss the days when a good flogging, a little keelhauling, then a good stout yard arm would discourage miscreants."

I think we need him to sign on to OW!!!!! ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Randi on 30 January 2013, 09:51:47
Comment posted in the Editorials of one of my Boating Magazines re: hoax 'Mayday' calls made to the US Coast Guard:

"Call me old fashioned, but I miss the days when a good flogging, a little keelhauling, then a good stout yard arm would discourage miscreants."

I think we need him to sign on to OW!!!!! ;D

It's not just the expense, it might mean that the Coast Guard ship is not available to answer a real emergency.
Take their boat away and auction it off.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: studentforever on 30 January 2013, 10:35:22
Better still, stick them in a boat with a dicky engine, force 8 on lee shore and let them wonder whether anyone is coming to get them.  Only if they beg, grovel and promise to do penance!!
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Randi on 30 January 2013, 10:47:17
Right! - but surely no rush to get them...
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Kathy on 30 January 2013, 11:47:14
I've wanted to send this along, but forgot - fascinating story

http://thephotopalace.blogspot.com.br/2013/01/french-wwi-images-found-still-in-camera.html
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: studentforever on 30 January 2013, 14:22:33
Wouldn't it be fantastic if a descendant or two could put names to faces and we could know something of their history.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Dean on 30 January 2013, 16:37:30
Comment posted in the Editorials of one of my Boating Magazines re: hoax 'Mayday' calls made to the US Coast Guard:

"Call me old fashioned, but I miss the days when a good flogging, a little keelhauling, then a good stout yard arm would discourage miscreants."

I think we need him to sign on to OW!!!!! ;D

It's not just the expense, it might mean that the Coast Guard ship is not available to answer a real emergency.
Take their boat away and auction it off.

The original article mentioned just that AND the fact that the USGS has been MOST active in finding and punishing those responsible. They have made it a FEDERAL OFFENCE with long jail terms etc.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 30 January 2013, 17:01:53
Which is why only true idiots try to hoax the gov't.  The last thing the CG wants is to find out that someone died on the water while they were chasing someone's joke.  Getting caught at it is supposed to be scary.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Caro on 31 January 2013, 05:19:33
http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2013/jan/29/surfer-garrett-mcnamara-100ft-wave
Gnarly.

Hello OW.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Steeleye on 31 January 2013, 06:44:45
What is the OldWeather term for 'mind boggling insanity'?

The video clip is apparently preliminary and jumps around a lot.  However, one of the blogs on the page contains a link to the clip of the same surfer on a (estimated) 90ft wave at the same location in 2011.  Seriously disturbing to my optic nerves! The link is:
http://visao.sapo.pt/novo-video-mostra-ainda-melhor-a-dimensao-da-onda-de-mcnamara-na-nazare=f709671 (http://visao.sapo.pt/novo-video-mostra-ainda-melhor-a-dimensao-da-onda-de-mcnamara-na-nazare=f709671)

I particularly liked the comment on the Guardian page that said: 'That wave couldn't have been more than 99.5 feet high.'

 :o
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Craig on 31 January 2013, 06:49:35
What is the OldWeather term for 'mind boggling insanity'?


nut case  ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: AvastMH on 31 January 2013, 08:10:48
Could we adopt the term 'Doing a McNamara' for out and out voluntary lunacy?  :P
I'm just glad for him that it was only 99.5 feet - anything bigger might have been deemed dangerous ( ::) ;D)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Randi on 31 January 2013, 11:34:22
Reminds me of this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Darwin_Awards
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 31 January 2013, 11:43:11
Reminds me of this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Darwin_Awards

He is still here and capable of adding to the human genome, so doesn't qualify.  His interview on US TV news has him admitting, that wave came very close to dumping him on shore rocks that would have killed him.  He didn't sound impressed enough by the risk to stop trying again. ::)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Craig on 31 January 2013, 12:27:31
It's interesting to note that we (humans) probably owe our existance to risk takers like that and that is also why these genes still exist in the gene pool. Imagine the risks taken by our African ancestors to master the skills necessary to populate all continents, for example. The Darwin Awards are often amusing just the same. With any luck, we learn from their errors. I, for one, would not want to surf those waves (smiley for "trembling in my boots")  ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Randi on 31 January 2013, 13:06:47
The surfing is risk taking, but this guy is an experienced big-wave surfer.
The Darwin awards are more for outright stupidity (like if I tried to ride a big wave ;)).
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Steeleye on 31 January 2013, 14:40:48
It's interesting to note that we (humans) probably owe our existance to risk takers like that and that is also why these genes still exist in the gene pool. Imagine the risks taken by our African ancestors to master the skills necessary to populate all continents, for example.   ;D

Good point Craig.  I suppose Mr McNamara's African predecessors on the savanna would have been the sort of people who would have said: "Oh look, there's a large lion. I wonder if he'd like to play 'tag' with me."

I think that the descriptive term for Mr McNamara that I was looking for last night was actually 'star, raving bonkers'.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 31 January 2013, 14:58:49
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I think that the descriptive term for Mr McNamara that I was looking for last night was actually 'star, raving bonkers'.

I agree - if he was in the 99.9% of humanity who would be lucky to stay on top of a 6 foot wave.  He's crazy enough to try for the impossible, and sane enough to put in the years of practice and trial-and-error learning to make the impossible possible.  I don't want to want his adrenaline addiction, but Craig is right: he's the 0.1% of humanity who proves to the rest of us that we can dream of the stars, and get there if we are willing to work hard enough.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Caro on 01 February 2013, 03:34:23
Hello OW. February already.  :o
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 01 February 2013, 04:00:23
Winter's half over.  And announced it has finally decided to stay in Chicago by FINALLY lining up some snow storms and sending them in our direction.  If the forecasters know what they are talking about this time.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Caro on 01 February 2013, 08:02:55
Here's some fun. Welcome to London.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/artanddesign/interactive/2013/feb/01/view-from-top-shard-london-interactive
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: AvastMH on 01 February 2013, 08:40:35
Well don't go there unless you have your bonnet well tied onto your head!  What an astounding view! Loved all the noises and arty extras. Excellent sense of the height ( :P green faced) too soon after lunch.
great find - it'll be fun to see what the locals decide are London's real places.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 01 February 2013, 10:34:59
That is a fun tour!  Leaves me feeling like I might know what London looks like. :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Kevin on 01 February 2013, 12:56:52
Mark & Co are commissioning our second hi-res imaging station at A2 today.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 01 February 2013, 13:16:16
Great!!  More transcriptions in the works. :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 01 February 2013, 23:24:19
Here's some fun. Welcome to London.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/artanddesign/interactive/2013/feb/01/view-from-top-shard-london-interactive

I wonder if you can see Geoff place from up there?
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 01 February 2013, 23:51:47
They've labeled the Old Royal Navy College at Greenwich, so probably yes. :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 02 February 2013, 00:17:23
I had no idea where he lives. Lovely area Greenwich, memories from my short visit there.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 02 February 2013, 01:54:57
I only remember that during the Queen's Jubilee, he mentioned seeing the tall ships while walking to his favorite coffee shop.  So he has to be somewhere in the vicinity of that stretch of the Thames.  Not a small area.  I'm hoping nobody ever publishes their actual address online here, that doesn't feel safe.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 02 February 2013, 02:32:11
I agree, but I don't know what goes on behind the scenes. ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Caro on 02 February 2013, 05:10:55
Geoff lives on the Isle of Dogs I believe, on the other side of the river from the Royal Naval College.
Good morning all.  :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Randi on 02 February 2013, 07:24:30
http://www.sciencenews.org/view/generic/id/348007/description/Life_found_deep_below_Antarctic_ice
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: studentforever on 02 February 2013, 07:48:52
Now the molecular biologists will be really licking their lips.  I forsee an outbreak of DNA analysis and attempts to culture any living organisms.  Just wait for those who believe in aliens to come up with a whole new prehistory for planet earth.

What fun!!
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: AvastMH on 02 February 2013, 12:51:39
"zargburble three to zargburble four.(crackling noise)..come in zargburble 4..(crunching noise)..oh no are you stuck under that Mars ranger thing again? We just got discovered in Lake Whillans - IS there no-where safe from the humans?"
When cells (are) divide(d):

(http://img209.imageshack.us/img209/8522/whencellsdivide.jpg)



Lonely Planet - pah! ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 02 February 2013, 13:51:17
 ;D ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Randi on 02 February 2013, 13:57:26
 ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Craig on 02 February 2013, 14:26:57
Very good, Joan  ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: studentforever on 02 February 2013, 14:35:00
I like your aliens!
 ;) ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 03 February 2013, 01:13:15
Hope you have/had a
Happy Groundhog Day, Happy Groundhog Day, Happy Groundhog Day   ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 03 February 2013, 01:31:29
They say there will be an early spring.  Since Phil comes out to the glare of bright spotlights, I'm a bit confused as to trusting him when he fails to see his shadow most of the time. ::)

It's an interesting twist to keeping the old world Candlemas Day (http://www.groundhog.org/groundhog-day/history/) going, because the eastern marmots (a.k.a. groundhogs) tend to break hibernation and pop out of the burrows this time of winter.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Caro on 03 February 2013, 05:14:04
Hello OW.
I hope Phil's 'prediction' of an early spring is correct.  ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Caro on 04 February 2013, 02:57:15
Hello again.
Congrats to the Baltimore Ravens.  :D
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Kathy on 04 February 2013, 09:04:48
I had my purple on!  ;D  It was an exciting game - I thought the 49ers might just pull it out.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Kathy on 04 February 2013, 10:21:53
 :o

http://www.foxnews.com/science/2013/02/04/skeleton-found-in-parking-lot-identified-as-that-englands-king-richard-iii/
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Craig on 04 February 2013, 11:02:18
Yeah, I was amused that the king who was willing to trade his kingdom for a horse ended up in a parking lot. :D
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Helen J on 04 February 2013, 11:03:50
And now there's a whole lot of (ahem) debate about where he should be reburied ....  Seems a lot of places feel they have the best claim.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Kathy on 04 February 2013, 11:07:08
 ;D

There is a great book by Elizabeth Peters mystery called The Murders of Richard III - it convinced me that Richard III got a very bum rap from Shakespeare!  Also one by Josephine Tey called The Daughter of Time
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: AvastMH on 04 February 2013, 13:03:42
As a long term fan of RIII I'm very excited by this. Richard survived his family's waxing and waning fortunes during the Wars of the Roses, being ever faithful to his brother, Edward IV. He really found his footing as his brother's right hand man in the North of England. He was much beloved of the people of York/the Northern Country, and sorely missed by them when he died. They used the diminutive northern version of Richard, Dickon, as his name.
However, the disappearance of Edward's children (The Princes in the Tower, Edward V and Richard) during Richard's protectorate must be viewed in a rather dim light!

Henry VII won at Bosworth Field and, after parking the ex-King in Leicester (sorry about the joke) thanks to his business-like ways, made England wealthy enough (again) to afford a decent navy. Hurrah!
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Kathy on 04 February 2013, 13:33:28
I'm a fan too - there is historical evidence of the princes all during Richard's reign - expense reports and the like, and those do not stop until the reign of Henry VII - I think a very strong case could be made for Henry being the one that did away with the young lads.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Randi on 04 February 2013, 13:36:35
I remember reading that the first Tudor kings vilified Richard (and the House of York) in order to strengthen their claim to the throne.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Thursday Next on 04 February 2013, 14:02:27
The archaeologists certainly kept us on tenterhooks waiting for them to say yes or no!  And a nice touch by Lauren Laverne on her 6Music show this morning by playing "Richard III" by Supergrass to indicate that the news had finally come through!
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: AvastMH on 04 February 2013, 17:03:23
I'm a fan too - there is historical evidence of the princes all during Richard's reign - expense reports and the like, and those do not stop until the reign of Henry VII - I think a very strong case could be made for Henry being the one that did away with the young lads.
Hello Fan! ;D  That's interesting about expense accounts. It's not at all beyond belief that Richard should claim the crown to maintain stability - he could always abdicate when Edward V came of age.  I think if they were alive to Henry VII's reign they would not have survived Margaret Beaufort that's for sure - nothing was going to get in the way of her boy. And using their disappearance to defame Richard would be useful to boot. Fascinating times.

Brilliant prog on Uk 'Channel 4' about the bones (NOT for the faint-hearted) tonight - hope you can get it over in the USA.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Tegwen on 05 February 2013, 04:11:13
I was aware of the excitement over this discovery as I read an Archaeology magazine, so it is really exciting that they have now confirmed that the skeleton is indeed that of Richard.

I thought the programme on channel 4 last night was very well done. It was clear that for a change they had got in right at the very beginning of the dig and followed it through well, rather than coming in after a discovery had been made and trying to put things back together after the fact. I suspect that this was partly foresight by C4 and also part of the strong lobbying done by the Richard the Third society to get the dig done in the first place.

The luck that the first trench went through the church at all, let alone at the exact point of that specific grave was incredible.

The descriptions of the injuries both before and after death are indeed fairly horrific.

Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Dean on 06 February 2013, 08:33:06
A friend sent this video of a full moon rise in New Zealand.

Beautiful!!



MOON rise last week in Wellington, NZ.
http://www.australiangeographic.com.au/journal/video-full-moon-rise-over-nz.htm#.UQxLeCi19Hd.email
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Randi on 06 February 2013, 08:39:33
 8)

I found this interesting: http://www.bbc.com/future/story/20130205-sahara-life-giving-sands
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Thursday Next on 06 February 2013, 12:37:01
Unfortunately your link isn't available to us in the UK - what was it about, Randi?

However, while trying to find a UK-accessible account, I came across this, which I found interesting!
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-21352427

I'd love to see a really spectacular comet - the others in my lifetime have all been a bit over-hyped!
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 06 February 2013, 13:03:27
How excessively strange - a BBC site that is available in the US but not the UK.  They have a future film coming out studying the life-giving nutrients coming from Sahara sand being blown across the Atlantic to the Amazon rain forest.  But they failed to say when it would be released.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Randi on 06 February 2013, 13:03:53
 ;)
Quote
The world?s hottest desert in the world is also one of the largest, covering an area that stretches across the North of Africa from the Red Sea in the east to the Atlantic in the west. In total, it spans 9,400,000 sq km (3,500,000 sq mi) - nearly as big as China or the United States.

In the searing heat of the day it is hard to imagine a more desolate place. But hidden within the vast dunes and swathes of dust are minerals left from an earlier, more fertile time when the region was home to agriculture, along with plants and animals now more commonly found in the savannahs further south.

Today, these minerals continue to support life. But to do that they must first go on an extraordinary journey.

Blown up into the high atmosphere, this dust is carried across the Atlantic where it falls with the rain across the Amazon rainforest, injecting much needed nutrients into this bio-diverse ecosystem.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Thursday Next on 06 February 2013, 13:14:54
Thanks, Randi and Janet, that is interesting.  Apparently we can't access the site in the UK because it is funded by BBC Worldwide and not out of the licence fee.  ???
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 06 February 2013, 18:25:59
I'm too American for the BBC - in their place, I'd want it all public to entice folk to pay for the channel, but what do I know.

This alert came through this afternoon.  The Great Lake are indeed in trouble.

Water level of Lake Michigan continues to drop, reaches record low (http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/chi-lake-michigan-reaches-recordlow-level-20130205,0,7562811.story)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: DJ_59 on 06 February 2013, 20:58:55

Now that's more than a little disconcerting.  Strange things are happening out there.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Caro on 07 February 2013, 03:52:17
Good morning OW.
Chilly but sunny in this neck of the woods.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Steeleye on 07 February 2013, 06:24:41
Good evening Caro,

Sunny here, until the sun went down a couple of hours ago.  But definitely not chilly.  Fires perking up again in Tasmania (http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-02-07/crews-battle-fires-on-high-danger-day/4505378 (http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-02-07/crews-battle-fires-on-high-danger-day/4505378))
.  The Taswegians just can't take a trick this summer.

There is, unsurprisingly, little chance of anyone hurting themselves by slipping on the ice in the morning!

Enjoy your trascribing and editing.
 :D
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Caro on 07 February 2013, 06:29:03
Hello Howard.
Sunny until the sun went down huh?  :D
Check out the front page of The Guardian. Amazing weather pic.
http://digital.guardian.co.uk/

Adding a snip for latecomers.  ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: AvastMH on 07 February 2013, 06:42:28
 :o :o :o  That's a whopper!
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Thursday Next on 07 February 2013, 08:09:59
Thanks for posting this link, Caro.  This photo was mentioned in the "tomorrow's papers" section of the Radio 4 midnight news bulletin, so I'm glad to have seen it for myself.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Randi on 07 February 2013, 08:45:52
WOW
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Dean on 07 February 2013, 08:48:24
That will rock your boat!!!! :o

Good evening Caro,

Sunny here, until the sun went down a couple of hours ago.  But definitely not chilly.  Fires perking up again in Tasmania (http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-02-07/crews-battle-fires-on-high-danger-day/4505378 (http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-02-07/crews-battle-fires-on-high-danger-day/4505378))
.  The Taswegians just can't take a trick this summer.

There is, unsurprisingly, little chance of anyone hurting themselves by slipping on the ice in the morning!

Enjoy your trascribing and editing.
 :D


Today's forecast: Sunny followed by dark! :P
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 07 February 2013, 09:35:13
Really WOW!  that wave is scarey!!

Fog/mist and freezing rain here this morning.  Nothing like as pleasant as others.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Caro on 07 February 2013, 11:15:26
Nervous flyers, don't look at this:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/gallery/2013/feb/07/white-knuckle-airports-in-pictures#/?picture=403674176&index=0

Does anybody else remember the good old days of Kai Tak in Hong Kong?
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: szukacz on 07 February 2013, 11:52:04
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/topics/weather/9853128/Giant-waves-batter-car-by-Seaham-coast.html
Car wash  ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 07 February 2013, 12:35:46
Some people are complete idiots.  I love watching angry water, it's magnificent - from a safe distance!!!!  Anything that angry should obviously be treated as dangerous. 
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Steeleye on 07 February 2013, 13:52:05
Just as well the gate on the sea wall in front of the car was closed; that twit gives every impression of wanting to keep going.

 :o
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: AvastMH on 07 February 2013, 14:04:12
Wait til he goes to the next MOT - "That'll be a 800 pound job to replace your salt-rotted sills sir"  Expensive viewing spot ::) ::)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Thursday Next on 07 February 2013, 14:35:59
Well, it is a Nissan Micra - they do have a bit of a reputation for being driven by the elderly confused.  (I am allowed to say this because I used to have one myself!  ;D)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 07 February 2013, 22:30:06
800 pounds would buy a new micra.  ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Steeleye on 08 February 2013, 01:26:24
800 pounds is also the weight of a new Micra, isn't it?

The Micra is more favoured by young ladies here, Su.  My 28 year-old , 5' 0" niece drives one - it's just about her size.
 ::)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Caro on 08 February 2013, 02:59:46
800 pounds would buy a new micra.  ;D

I wish. ;)  Good morning all.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: AvastMH on 08 February 2013, 03:47:07
 ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Randi on 08 February 2013, 08:06:45
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/topics/weather/9853128/Giant-waves-batter-car-by-Seaham-coast.html
Car wash  ;)
;D
Hi szukacz!
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Thursday Next on 08 February 2013, 10:51:30

The Micra is more favoured by young ladies here, Su.  My 28 year-old , 5' 0" niece drives one - it's just about her size.
 ::)

Just about my size, too - though one of the main reasons I changed to a Peugeot 107 was that the latest model Micra was too big!
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Dean on 08 February 2013, 11:35:49
I've tried all my usual tricks. I can get the page but not the video. :-[
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Randi on 08 February 2013, 11:50:57
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/topics/weather/9853128/Giant-waves-batter-car-by-Seaham-coast.html
works for me, but it does take awhile to come up.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 08 February 2013, 12:34:32
I've tried all my usual tricks. I can get the page but not the video. :-[

Works perfectly in Chicago.  Try this link instead - has different editing and captions
http://www.northnews.co.uk/article/592
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Steeleye on 08 February 2013, 14:46:59
I've tried all my usual tricks. I can get the page but not the video. :-[

The atmosphere's probably getting a bit gummed up with the cold.  Maybe you should try again when it warms up a little?

 :-\
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 08 February 2013, 16:43:42
Has anyone else had difficulty attaching small pics?  Sometimes I'm blocked from uploading the attachment, sometimes not.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: szukacz on 08 February 2013, 17:14:41
Have you seen? (http://www.youtube.com/embed/eIZTMVNBjc4?feature=player_detailpage)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 08 February 2013, 17:34:00
Wow!!
Thanks, szukacz!

See also
http://www.youtube.com/embed/eIZTMVNBjc4?feature=player_detailpage
http://www.youtube.com/embed/eIZTMVNBjc4?feature=player_detailpage
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Dean on 08 February 2013, 19:58:07
I've tried all my usual tricks. I can get the page but not the video. :-[

The atmosphere's probably getting a bit gummed up with the cold.  Maybe you should try again when it warms up a little?

 :-\

Not only cold. we picked up a foot (30cm) of snow since last night!  Better than the East Coast who are to get BOMBED!!!
Has anyone else had difficulty attaching small pics?  Sometimes I'm blocked from uploading the attachment, sometimes not.

 I get stopped sometimes due to the size limits of the site. I didn't know it affected the Mods too. :o  I usually can STILL post if I open the file in "Preview" or something and reduce the size and resave THEN send.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 08 February 2013, 20:55:45
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Not only cold. we picked up a foot (30cm) of snow since last night!  Better than the East Coast who are to get BOMBED!!!
And all that from the storm that first soaked Chicago with freezing moderate rain and then dropped about 2" of very heavy wet white stuff on it.  (It's the driving that was seriously affected, snow on top of ice creates the worst possible pavements.)  Amazing what the Great Lakes do to feed a dryish storm!  And the poor East Coast is getting your lake-fed storm merging into and feeding a bad Northeaster.  I really do NOT want to live on that coast this year.

Quote
I get stopped sometimes due to the size limits of the site. I didn't know it affected the Mods too.  :o  I usually can STILL post if I open the file in "Preview" or something and reduce the size and resave THEN send.

And that is what the mods and probably everyone does when they are overloading the forum.  The 2 pics of mine it stopped were 45 KB and 22 KB - size isn't the problem.  Since members aren't fussing about it, we're giving Amazon a few hours to straighten it out before bothering Arfon.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Randi on 09 February 2013, 02:22:48
I saw the problem last night with a 2k text file.



Just now, it worked...
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 09 February 2013, 03:15:13
Trying now.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 09 February 2013, 03:16:12
It works!  Hopefully permanently.  Thanks, Amazon.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Caro on 09 February 2013, 09:40:14
Hello OW.
History!  ;D http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/9859321/Bayeux-Tapestry-finally-completed-after-900-years.html
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: AvastMH on 09 February 2013, 09:45:19
The sky last night was brilliantly clear. Woke up at 7ish this morning to gentle snow falling in Oxford...fat wet flakes so nothing laying. Sounds like the East Coast in the USA is getting clobbered by the stuff! Take care all!  :-*
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Dean on 09 February 2013, 10:30:06
Here in western New York (near Niagara Falls) we totaled 11.7" (29.5cm) for the storm. Lots of snow - not much wind but the east coast got hammered!

Just in from digging out this morning. Did 3 digs yesterday.

Glad for the snow as it may help our disastrously low water levels in the Great Lakes!
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: AvastMH on 09 February 2013, 10:47:32
I was hoping that it would help your water levels Dean...and it sounds like you've had to dig a lot already! We are predicted snow here tomorrow and, although it's not so bitter today, the winds are moving round to northerly and then we move into easterlies by early next week - fab - weather from the arctic swaps for weather from Russia....bbbbrrrr!
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Craig on 09 February 2013, 11:11:20
Hello OW.
History!  ;D http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/9859321/Bayeux-Tapestry-finally-completed-after-900-years.html

They're very dedicated - good candidates for OW and they may have us in stitches.  :D
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Randi on 09 February 2013, 11:28:28
 :P
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: AvastMH on 09 February 2013, 12:55:20
 ;D ;D ;D
So which one of us is going to write to them and ask...
(http://img189.imageshack.us/img189/5066/bayeuxmeetsow.jpg)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Craig on 09 February 2013, 13:13:40
 ;D ;D  ;D

Marvellous, Joan!   I think you should contact them, for sure.  (Only Force 3?)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Dean on 09 February 2013, 13:14:40
Here is an article about the snow and the results on the east Coast of the US.

http://entertainment.verizon.com/news/read.php?ps=1011&rip_id=%3CDA4AJ51O0%40news.ap.org%3E&_LT=MNEW_LARSDCCLM_UNEWS
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Maikel on 09 February 2013, 14:00:27
;D ;D ;D
So which one of us is going to write to them and ask...

I've got some very good memories of Pevensey and Pevensey Bay.
Summer holidays, camping in Pevensey Bay, tasting the ales in the Royal Oak and Castle in Pevensey.  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Helen J on 09 February 2013, 14:30:48
That is so clever, Joan!  Is nowhere safe from OW?  Now those would be challenging logbooks ....
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 09 February 2013, 15:04:46
Send that one with an invitation to join OW.  ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Randi on 09 February 2013, 15:06:15
 ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: AvastMH on 09 February 2013, 18:42:51
Send that one with an invitation to join OW.  ;D

All right I will........
Though I actually have a better idea than that and it came out of looking at the website for the Alderney Museum and helping Brenda Boardman at work (a world renowned Fuel Poverty scientist) to do a talk over in Western Canada by Skype (a MASSIVE saving in carbon footprint - well done Brenda). Alderney Museum encourages people to give talks there - I'd love to go but it's a LONG way (remember I live in parochial England) and not cheap. But if they had a little technology we could do it. If only we had a talk that we could give. That's something we could work on. Anyone up for it? Anyone got any idea of how to do it? Anyone been out to give a talk about OW before?  Is this a project beyond our time limits?   Hmmmm...makes you think.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 09 February 2013, 19:17:00
Mine the blogs, the The Science: What You're Doing This For board, and Philip's videos at http://vimeo.com/channels/345571 for content - you'd have to have some kind of computer hook-up that could show your graphics and videos on a tv screen.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: AvastMH on 09 February 2013, 19:20:20
Here is an article about the snow and the results on the east Coast of the US.

http://entertainment.verizon.com/news/read.php?ps=1011&rip_id=%3CDA4AJ51O0%40news.ap.org%3E&_LT=MNEW_LARSDCCLM_UNEWS

Hi Dean,
Yes - we just had the news on over here and they say half a million in N America have lost their power supply. I hope you and yours are all OK...., same for all our OW N America folk.  It's pretty dramatic looking.
Take care y'all  :-*

PS just been watching this: http://www.weather.com/travel/nemo-travel-updates-20130206
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 09 February 2013, 21:10:21
Very dramatic - the evening news here showed radar of Nemo finally pulling away from land, and at that late point it was starting to develop an open eye in the middle, like a category 1 hurricane.  Which it theoretically was not.

They'll be good for public trans by Monday, probably, and have the side roads drivable by the end of the week.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Kevin on 10 February 2013, 00:44:42
All the material that the US team have developed can be borrowed. See for example the poster on www.PMEL.NOAA.gov/arctic/rediscover (bottom of about), and various photos etc. on the site. One of my colleagues from the U is doing a science cafe on citizen-science at the Pacific Science Center next month for which we are providing some material....


Send that one with an invitation to join OW.  ;D

All right I will........
Though I actually have a better idea than that and it came out of looking at the website for the Alderney Museum and helping Brenda Boardman at work (a world renowned Fuel Poverty scientist) to do a talk over in Western Canada by Skype (a MASSIVE saving in carbon footprint - well done Brenda). Alderney Museum encourages people to give talks there - I'd love to go but it's a LONG way (remember I live in parochial England) and not cheap. But if they had a little technology we could do it. If only we had a talk that we could give. That's something we could work on. Anyone up for it? Anyone got any idea of how to do it? Anyone been out to give a talk about OW before?  Is this a project beyond our time limits?   Hmmmm...makes you think.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Randi on 10 February 2013, 02:41:49
Send that one with an invitation to join OW.  ;D

All right I will........
Though I actually have a better idea than that and it came out of looking at the website for the Alderney Museum and helping Brenda Boardman at work (a world renowned Fuel Poverty scientist) to do a talk over in Western Canada by Skype (a MASSIVE saving in carbon footprint - well done Brenda). Alderney Museum encourages people to give talks there - I'd love to go but it's a LONG way (remember I live in parochial England) and not cheap. But if they had a little technology we could do it. If only we had a talk that we could give. That's something we could work on. Anyone up for it? Anyone got any idea of how to do it? Anyone been out to give a talk about OW before?  Is this a project beyond our time limits?   Hmmmm...makes you think.

Contact Dean - he is working on something!
You might ask Kathy too - she has lots of experience ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: jil on 10 February 2013, 05:03:00
Looking forward to the embroidered logs  ;D  ;D  ;D

Actually sailors were supposed to be good at sewing so you never know!
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Craig on 10 February 2013, 06:03:49
This might backfire and they will have us restoring tapestries  :o ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Craig on 10 February 2013, 06:27:38
Is anyone having trouble with the interface this morning? When I click on "I've finished with this page" nothing happens. The message in the lower left corner of the screen is "Read www.oldweather.org". I have been waiting for 10 minutes now. I am using Firefox.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Randi on 10 February 2013, 06:43:47
The Old Weather BOINC team has just passed the Ten Million credit mark!

(http://boincstats.com/signature/-1/team/54739893/sig.png)

OW BOINC Team - Offer your excess computer capacity for climate model simulation (http://forum.oldweather.org/index.php?topic=2028.0)

http://boincstats.com/en/stats/-1/team/detail/458b2e76b918586f0d0d1a65026f9317/
http://climateapps2.oerc.ox.ac.uk/cpdnboinc/team_display.php?teamid=9976
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Craig on 10 February 2013, 07:31:27
Good for us!  8)

I finally had to abort my Firefox session and lose 24 weather transcriptions. I re-started on the same page and just tried one line and then saved it successfully. Must have been a momentary glitch in the interface.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Randi on 10 February 2013, 07:57:51
I am seeing some odd behavior in the forum. Once in a while as I am typing it just hangs up for 30 seconds or so :-\
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Randi on 10 February 2013, 08:10:41
Snowing!
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: AvastMH on 10 February 2013, 08:52:44
Looking forward to the embroidered logs  ;D  ;D  ;D

Actually sailors were supposed to be good at sewing so you never know!

 ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: AvastMH on 10 February 2013, 08:53:38
Raining freezing water (not snow, but very very cold rain - yeeuurrrgh
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Caro on 10 February 2013, 09:01:02
Raining! Repeat ad nauseam.

More great work by the OW BOINC team.

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Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: AvastMH on 10 February 2013, 09:43:34
Send that one with an invitation to join OW.  ;D

All right I will........
Though I actually have a better idea than that and it came out of looking at the website for the Alderney Museum and helping Brenda Boardman at work (a world renowned Fuel Poverty scientist) to do a talk over in Western Canada by Skype (a MASSIVE saving in carbon footprint - well done Brenda). Alderney Museum encourages people to give talks there - I'd love to go but it's a LONG way (remember I live in parochial England) and not cheap. But if they had a little technology we could do it. If only we had a talk that we could give. That's something we could work on. Anyone up for it? Anyone got any idea of how to do it? Anyone been out to give a talk about OW before?  Is this a project beyond our time limits?   Hmmmm...makes you think.

Contact Dean - he is working on something!
You might ask Kathy too - she has lots of experience ;D

Thanks Janet, Kevin, Randi, jil, Dean and Kathy, and all for your suggestions.  Dean - if you have got something along these lines up your sleeve I'd be glad to help if useful.
I thought quite hard about suggesting a talk, but it doesn't seem entirely mad.
Joan
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Dean on 10 February 2013, 12:45:26
I just talked to Joan on SKYPE. A wonderful chat!

Here is what I 'posted' to Randi a bit ago about where I am in the 'process.' Any one with suggestions or videos I'm glad for the advice. Send either email, PMs, SKYPE......

 I'm doing Ok. My main 'issue' is that most of what I have found as videos etc. are for VIEWING and don't seem to be able to be DOWNLOADED (I know, copyright violations and all! ) As I said, I have been asked by a couple Groups I belong to to present about the project. One of the places doesn't have Internet so I need to 'bring' everything. I'm building a PowerPoint in the hopes of doing that. The other group meets at a University Campus near here and I'll have full access so I can just go online and pull what I want to show, explain, etc.

One is a retired men's group many of whom are WWII vets and will be VERY interested in the History. The other is the local chapter of the American Meteorological Society and they will be MOST interested in the weather part. Some of THEM may sign on to help us with the Phase 3 ships.


I got the 'original' OW Tutorial video. I've copied some log pages and can show what they look like and then how they got transcribed, etc. I also plan to bring parts of the Word Files and show how the stuff gets edited and back to Gordon for 'publication.'

We'll see. I'm MORE than willing once I get it together to SHARE with anyone who wants it! 
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Randi on 10 February 2013, 13:04:26
I think there are some strict limits on copying the Royal Navy log pages.

Caro? Janet?
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 10 February 2013, 13:10:24
I know the Admiralty has loosened up a little from our very beginning, but I think not much.  We should ask the PTB - I know they'll love having us do some missionizing for new members.  Using them in talks may be different than publishing them on sites.

Crown copyright on scan pictures, not transcribed information:

Can anyone please explain who owns the copyright for the images? For instance if something particularly interesting shows up and it can be used as a reference on Wikipedia or more specifically added to the site/copied elsewhere or not?
Thanks :)
The National Archives owns the copyright, and it has been a tiny issue in the past when magazines and newspapers wanted to reprint pages.  I'll see if there's been any change in that, Blackaqua.

Deej
Please don't copy the logbook images to Wikipedia or any other site.

The logbooks are British Crown Copyright and, as DJ says, are owned by the National Archives (TNA). TNA have always been helpful and supportive in our use of the logbooks - please help us maintain this productive relationship, and respect their copyright.

Philip
Philip's email reply, for my use.
--------------------------------------------
Re: Wikipedia issues...
...
A thorny problem is the question of links to log pages. We can't put the log images up on any other site, and I'd rather not create a lot of direct links in to jpegs on oldweather.org pages - they are not permanent links and The National Archives won't be happy. But fortunately this isn't necessary - a W reference need not be a Web link, it should be sufficient to link to a text reference of the form 'Log of HMS Torch from May 22nd 1914; National Archives reference ADM
53 63330 Page 20' Which will allow any sufficiently diligent researcher to find the exact page. (You can get the TNA catalog number from the page URL, here http: //oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ADM53-63330/ADM53-63330-020_1.jpg).
Regards,
 Philip
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Randi on 10 February 2013, 13:14:07
US logbooks are not a problem.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Tegwen on 10 February 2013, 13:22:50
Send that one with an invitation to join OW.  ;D

All right I will........
Though I actually have a better idea than that and it came out of looking at the website for the Alderney Museum and helping Brenda Boardman at work (a world renowned Fuel Poverty scientist) to do a talk over in Western Canada by Skype (a MASSIVE saving in carbon footprint - well done Brenda). Alderney Museum encourages people to give talks there - I'd love to go but it's a LONG way (remember I live in parochial England) and not cheap. But if they had a little technology we could do it. If only we had a talk that we could give. That's something we could work on. Anyone up for it? Anyone got any idea of how to do it? Anyone been out to give a talk about OW before?  Is this a project beyond our time limits?   Hmmmm...makes you think.

Hi
Sorry this is a bit late. Only just seen the post about talks about OW.
Su (Thursdaynext) and I went to a talk given by our own Philip Brohan at a conference on naval history in Exeter during the summer. That was great from the Carbon Footprint POV as Phillip's office is in Exeter. That presentation was a really good indication of the work that we have done and had exactly the right mix of serious science and fun. It would be great if that could be presented over an internet system.

PS. There were some shots of individual log pages and bits of text from logs in Phillip's talk.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: AvastMH on 10 February 2013, 14:22:58
Great! Thanks Keith! Nice to hear from you. I spoke to Dean by Skype earlier on and he's a little way into developing something - I know he'll see this - so thank you again. I've left it with Dean for now (with working it's beyond my time scale until the Easter Hols). But I'm looking into some of the technical bits about presenting a talk by Skype.
Joan
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Helen J on 10 February 2013, 15:47:37
I've just heard a clip from this short series (5 of them) of short programmes on weather (15 minutes each) - worth a listen.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b01qknt7
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: AvastMH on 10 February 2013, 18:09:38
The Old Weather BOINC team has just passed the Ten Million credit mark!

This decided me to add another project for those quiet days when CPDN is unable to provide some goodies. I hope not to have completely mucked things up - I'll keep an eye on it!  I'm now fighting malaria as well.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Dean on 10 February 2013, 19:16:32
Hi all!

Two things:

1. I plan to  NOT accept money or anything for the talks I will do for the groups I belong to. I know from past experience that can be a real issue with copyright and all. I will also check with those who made the videos before I use them. The log pages etc. will be for 'example' and not published anywhere by me or anyone else.

2. It looks like this might be a 'great topic' so I will start a new thread 'OW PRESENTATION' rather than 'clog up' the Chat.  Mods - please feel free to move anything I have already posted wherever you think it will help the most.

Blessings,  Dean :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Caro on 11 February 2013, 04:18:59
Morning all. Snowing again. Bleh.  :D
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: AvastMH on 12 February 2013, 09:27:08
Today the Dockside Cafe proudly presents Fat Tuesday special - Pancakes


happy Mardi Gras all!!!!!!

(http://img6.imageshack.us/img6/9939/largestpancake.jpg)


(World's largest pancake)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Randi on 12 February 2013, 09:42:20
Burp!
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 12 February 2013, 12:19:45
They forgot the syrup. ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Caro on 12 February 2013, 12:34:47
I read that particular pancake "weighed three tons and contained an estimated two million calories".
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Craig on 12 February 2013, 12:54:14
That appears to outdo Paul Bunyon's exploit.  http://www.paulbunyantrail.com/page16.html

Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: AvastMH on 12 February 2013, 12:55:18
They forgot the syrup. ;D

Oh could you imagine - you need a whole bath-full of it.... gross  :P
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 12 February 2013, 15:56:49
They forgot the syrup. ;D

That's in a Concrete mixer just out of picture,  :P
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: AvastMH on 12 February 2013, 19:18:36
yeeeuuurrrggghhh :P :P ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 14 February 2013, 00:00:45
8)

I found this interesting: http://www.bbc.com/future/story/20130205-sahara-life-giving-sands

This is a PBS / UK / Canada co-production (according the credits at the end) that is very interesting.  It was on tonight in Chicago, so I assume everyone in the UK and in North America will get it this week.

Quote
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/space/earth-from-space.html
"Earth From Space" is a groundbreaking two-hour special that reveals a spectacular new space-based vision of our planet. Produced in extensive consultation with NASA scientists, NOVA takes data from earth-observing satellites and transforms it into dazzling visual sequences, each one exposing the intricate and surprising web of forces that sustains life on earth. Viewers witness how dust blown from the Sahara fertilizes the Amazon; how a vast submarine "waterfall" off Antarctica helps drive ocean currents around the world; and how the sun's heating up of the southern Atlantic gives birth to a colossally powerful hurricane. From the microscopic world of water molecules vaporizing over the ocean to the magnetic field that is bigger than Earth itself, the show reveals the astonishing beauty and complexity of our dynamic planet.
...
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Caro on 14 February 2013, 02:36:10
Hello OW and happy Valentine's Day to you all.

(http://emoticoner.com/files/emoticons/smileys/roseg-smiley.gif?1292867664)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 14 February 2013, 03:10:48
(http://www.smileyvault.com/albums/userpics/12962/valentines_day~0.gif)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: AvastMH on 14 February 2013, 03:20:56
Awwwwww...so cute!  :-*
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Kathy on 14 February 2013, 07:40:53
A little something for Valentine's Day:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/02/09/color-photos-of-paris-in-_n_2653184.html?ncid=wsc-huffpost-cards-headline

 :-* :-*
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 14 February 2013, 07:52:18
I like!   ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Dean on 14 February 2013, 08:16:02
Superb!! ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: szukacz on 14 February 2013, 11:09:10
 ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Randi on 14 February 2013, 11:27:17
Neat!
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Kathy on 14 February 2013, 11:32:29
I love #26 - the little boy in the lower right hand corner just cracks me up!
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: AvastMH on 14 February 2013, 13:04:41
I love #26 - the little boy in the lower right hand corner just cracks me up!
He looks like a right cheeky little chappy!  ;D :-*
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Caro on 15 February 2013, 02:09:38
Good morning OW.
No shortage of interesting events this week: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-21442863
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: AvastMH on 15 February 2013, 03:25:53
Just heard Chris Lintott from Oxford Univ on BBC Radio Oxford talking about the asteroid. When asked, in the absence of Bruce Willis, how we could change the course of an asteroid he said that the best way thought up yet would be to change its colour in order to alter the effect of the sun's radiation on it. So - anyone got a paint brush and some magnolia?  :-\ ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Caro on 15 February 2013, 03:28:24
I think we would still need Bruce Willis to do the painting.

Funny Google doodle today too.  ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: AvastMH on 15 February 2013, 04:08:30
 ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: jil on 15 February 2013, 04:20:52
And also meteors in Russia (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-21468116). Anyone spotted four horsemen?  :o
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Helen J on 15 February 2013, 06:21:32
If anyone does, please let me know immediately.  I'm going to be very cross if the end of the world arrives just after I've spent my half term weekend working furiously on various essays.  If the end is nigh, I'll do something more frivolous!
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Randi on 15 February 2013, 06:49:31
http://www.sciencenews.org/view/generic/id/348294/description/News_in_Brief_Melting_Arctic_may_make_algae_flourish
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Randi on 15 February 2013, 07:42:50
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-21468116
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Randi on 15 February 2013, 08:05:23
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-21457155
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: studentforever on 15 February 2013, 10:58:14
There is an instruction in the Edwin Smith Papyrus of the Ancient Egyptians using honey to treat wounds - the one I remember was for skin lacerations over a fracture.  (They did not attempt to treat open fractures though.)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 15 February 2013, 12:20:54
Honey is the only food that never spoils, only dries up.  It is very antibiotic. 
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: AvastMH on 15 February 2013, 14:02:52
It's a brilliant old cure. Sugar or honey. Honey does carry significant antibiotic effects as you say Janet - especially manuka honey made form the blossom of the Tea Tree.  In fact bees make a waxy antibiotic door carpet for their hives to catch any nasties coming in.  My mother had an un-healing ulcer, after 6 weeks of getting nowhere with modern stuff I finally talked her into getting the community nurse to dress it with honey. The nurse was reluctant because other patients had deemed it too sticky and messy. Within a week the ulcer was almost gone... I've seen really severe wound sinuses cleaned out and healed using sugar packing. Other good treatment for heavy grazing - the thin layer of skin between onion layers..rough side to the wound.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 15 February 2013, 19:30:01
An old news story local to Pittsburgh went viral this week - I love it what gets found during slow news weeks.  And seriously hope that children's hospitals in other cities make arrangements with their window washers to copy this next Halloween. :)

Superhero Window Washers at Children's Hospital [Video] (http://www.comicsalliance.com/2013/02/04/uperhero-window-washers-children-hospital-video-pittsburgh/)

http://bcove.me/urqzna1a

(http://www.blogcdn.com/www.comicsalliance.com/media/2013/02/bcdd3q4ciaaobru-1360018604.jpg)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Dean on 16 February 2013, 00:18:42
 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: AvastMH on 16 February 2013, 04:44:09
That's a cracker! I love it  :-* ..... ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Randi on 16 February 2013, 07:47:20
 ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Kathy on 16 February 2013, 09:43:07
This has nothing to do with ships, weather, etc., but for some reason it makes me laugh till my sides hurt -

https://www.youtube.com/tv?vq=medium#/watch?v=PpccpglnNf0&mode=transport

Be forewarned - for some reason, this video can't be popped out like others -
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: AvastMH on 16 February 2013, 10:48:50
I never heard the like of this before -hilarious  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D   
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Caro on 16 February 2013, 11:57:07
In pop-out mode now.
Truly bizarre.  ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Kathy on 16 February 2013, 12:24:32
Thanks Caro - all you can do is shake your head!  ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: olems on 16 February 2013, 17:55:10
Leonardo da Vinci's notebook has been fully digitised and made available online (http://www.bl.uk/manuscripts/FullDisplay.aspx?ref=Arundel_MS_263), thanks to the British Library. Now that would be a challenging transcription project, considering it's in renaissance italian and in mirrored writing. At least his drawings and diagrams are pretty to look at.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 16 February 2013, 18:03:05
First someone has to run it through a program that gives us the mirror image of the mirror writing (easy) and then we have to turn Lollia and Propriome loose on it. ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: AvastMH on 16 February 2013, 18:09:53
 ;D ;D ;D

I just took a look  :o - forget it....the pictures are pretty though as Olems says  ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: propriome on 16 February 2013, 18:35:06
 ;D ;D ;D

It would be a pretty challenging task even knowing the language, and even being from Tuscany as Leonardo (Vinci is not so far from here)... 1400 Florence dialect was the closest one to current Italian, but still quite different from it ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 16 February 2013, 18:38:18
 - The problem with 600 year old language is recognized by every English-speaking high school teenager who tried to Chaucer.  His English isn't even close to ours! :o 8)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: propriome on 16 February 2013, 18:52:02
I was just wondering about that :) :)

My English courses at high school just mentioned Chaucer, and I think we read something translated in modern Italian. I'm pretty sure I'd still have problems today in reading his English.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: AvastMH on 16 February 2013, 19:14:07
The trick with Chaucer is to listen to it. Best use of Chaucer - to make Shakespeare's works look easy.  ::) :D
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 16 February 2013, 19:41:20
Quote
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Canterbury_Tales#Text
written in Middle English by Geoffrey Chaucer at the end of the 14th century...
  To telle yow al the condicioun,
  Of ech of hem, so as it semed me,
  And whiche they weren, and of what degree,
  And eek in what array that they were inne,
  And at a knyght than wol I first bigynne.

And that is digitized.  You need to read a little German Fraktur to read the real thing.

It's a teenager's nightmare. ;D

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/04/Chauser_knight_from_prologue.png/667px-Chauser_knight_from_prologue.png)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 17 February 2013, 01:04:32
Any OW'rs in Tasmania?
I catch the ferry for there tomorrow for a 4 week holiday.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Caro on 17 February 2013, 03:12:12
Lucky you, Stuart. Enjoy yourself.
Morning all.  :D
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Dean on 17 February 2013, 11:40:53
Enjoy, Sir (and the Missus)! Have a wonderful trip - and please send pics! :D
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: AvastMH on 17 February 2013, 11:47:50
Any OW'rs in Tasmania?
I catch the ferry for there tomorrow for a 4 week holiday.

Have a great time Stuart, & the good Mrs PommyStuart of course!
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Randi on 17 February 2013, 12:58:12
What kind of example is that for your crew? :o



Have fun!
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Craig on 17 February 2013, 13:00:09
If Stuart takes weather measurements from the ferry (both ways) his crew might forgive him.  ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 17 February 2013, 14:00:30
That sounds like a wonderful vacation.  Hope you and Ms. PommyStuart enjoy it. :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Steeleye on 18 February 2013, 02:48:36
Have fun Stuart, the Bass Strait can be an enjoyable place when the weather is feeling unsociable.  While you are heading south, Lynne and I will be taking the Indian-Pacific from Sydney to Adelaide and then the Ghan north to Darwin.  Life can be so tough in retirement, don't you think?

 ::)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Caro on 18 February 2013, 03:27:45
Hmmm. Tough life, Stuart and Howard.  :D
Send us a postcard.
Morning all.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 18 February 2013, 18:19:08
Sorry guys. Blame your parents, they should have had you earlier then you could have joined us.
Ferry trip like a mill pond 1mtr on a 1mtr swell.
Camp site full of Argentinian ants. %^(
Weather cool, cloudy and 90% chance of 1-5mm rain. (what did you expect, a log book type report, I'm on holiday. %^)
Enjoy the train trip Howard & Lynne, it's very relaxing.

Happy Birthday Nicolaus Copernicus, only 540 years young. Now that's taking being born earlier to extremes.
All for now, I'm of to town to buy new poles for the annex which I forgot to bring, (the poles not the annex) and lots of ant spray.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Caro on 19 February 2013, 02:13:30
Morning OW.
Glad you explained that it was the poles, not the annexe, that you had forgotten, Stuart.  ;D
Great Copernicus Google doodle today.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 19 February 2013, 17:28:15
I may let someone else enter this please.
See these 2 log pages  Page 1  (http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Concord/vol012of040/vol012of040_154_1.jpg) and here  Page 2 (http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Concord/vol012of040/vol012of040_155_1.jpg) for Court Martial details.

They make interesting reading, especially page 2.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 19 February 2013, 18:26:42
Very interesting.  Thanks for posting it.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Caro on 20 February 2013, 02:47:39
Hi all.
I like the bit about John Blake 'being disrespectful ... in language and deportment' to his superior officer.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: AvastMH on 20 February 2013, 03:49:16
Hmmmm...it's interesting to think about being on bread and water - when you think of the quality of the bread the navy had, and the state of most water. Grim.  :P
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 20 February 2013, 04:34:43
A lot of them on the Concord seem to like it, also they seem to be into heavy metal judging by the number in irons (double and single)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Randi on 20 February 2013, 06:15:10
Hmmmm...it's interesting to think about being on bread and water - when you think of the quality of the bread the navy had, and the state of most water. Grim.  :P

More than once, as here, I have seen the notation that every 5'th day was normal rations...
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: studentforever on 20 February 2013, 11:21:04
I hope they got the occasional glass of lemon or lime juice otherwise scurvy could be the outcome of too long a punishment on bread and water.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Randi on 20 February 2013, 14:57:38
It is generally thought that lime juice alone was an effective cure back in the day but it was not. See here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scurvy

Quoting: "Indeed, a 1918 animal experiment using representative samples of the Navy and Merchant Marine's lime juice showed that it had virtually no antiscorbutic power at all."

Many polar expeditions had lime juice AND scurvy, alas. The process of handing and bottling the juice destroyed the vitamin C (incidentally not identified until the 1930s).
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Dean on 20 February 2013, 14:58:45
For all you 'Problem Solvers' out there!

Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Randi on 20 February 2013, 15:06:01
"I have a very responsible position. Whenever something goes wrong, everyone says I am responsible"
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Dean on 20 February 2013, 17:18:35
Been there, done that, got the T shirt and scars to prove it! ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 20 February 2013, 19:07:14
Big time YES!  The lot of quality inspectors, you are not allowed to mess with the production line and if they blow it, it's all your fault. ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 21 February 2013, 01:58:08
Hi Dean.
Have you the need for one of these?
Only AU$350.
I can pick it up for you if you want.
Stuart.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 21 February 2013, 02:03:04
That seems a rather expensive way to keep the wind from blowing your sign over. ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: AvastMH on 21 February 2013, 03:09:54
Don't you get scratches on your vinyl if you play them on yachts?  ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 21 February 2013, 03:22:23
Ah, come on guys. Its the ANCHOR that I meant, The sign just happened to be there.  :P

Here is a typical letterbox in the Wilmot area,  and also look at the town road sign, it's the place you go when you have "No where else' to go.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 21 February 2013, 04:14:54
Now that's very good folk art!  Twice over? ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: AvastMH on 21 February 2013, 13:47:32
It's a fab anchor and a fab letter box Stuart. And I bet the road-sign is good too..can't wait to see it.  ;) ;) ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 21 February 2013, 14:53:06
Opps, changed now.  :-[
Real Post Office Mailbox at 'Little Crackpot' and some local wildlife.
Will put the rest of my pics up on Picasa when I get back.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Helen J on 21 February 2013, 14:59:10
Don't think I've ever seen an echidna before - what a strange creature!  It looks as though it has its feet on back to front.  :D
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 21 February 2013, 15:43:26
Very observant Janet.
Echidnas and the platypus are the only egg-laying mammals, known as monotremes.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: AvastMH on 21 February 2013, 16:01:04
Stunning sea horses - the UK ones come in khaki green
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Caro on 22 February 2013, 03:48:22
Beautiful sea horses indeed.
No pics of a Tasmanian devil yet, Stuart?  ;) :D
A charming description from Wiki:
"It is characterised by its stocky and muscular build, black fur, pungent odour, extremely loud and disturbing screech, keen sense of smell, and ferocity when feeding."

Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Randi on 22 February 2013, 07:57:28
The babies who nap in sub-zero temperatures (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-21537988)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Dean on 22 February 2013, 08:42:18
Hi Dean.
Have you the need for one of these?
Only AU$350.
I can pick it up for you if you want.
Stuart.

Thanks, Pommey. Believe it or not, I already HAVE one!  I have a smaller, lighter, more modern one that I usually use but I DO have THAT one just in case of a blow!! It weighs about 35 kilos.

Looks like you are having a great trip!!

Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: AvastMH on 22 February 2013, 12:56:53
I just stopped for a tea break and thought I'd sign in to see, slightly absent-mindedly,  what was going. My eyes scanned  "The babies who nap in sub-zero temperatures" then this.....

"It is characterised by its stocky and muscular build, black fur, pungent odour, extremely loud and disturbing screech, keen sense of smell, and ferocity when feeding."

right.....ummmm ::) ::) ;D

(Me and my twin used to get wrapped up and put outside as much as possible in one of those big old-fashioned prams. When it was bad weather (that's wet or snowing) we'd be left in the unheated kitchen with the window slightly open.)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: studentforever on 22 February 2013, 14:46:05
Yes, snow kept us in and fog was a real keep the baby inside day - we lived near a big chemical factory.  To horrify modern mums - in frosty weather there would be ice on the inside of baby's bedroom window! Somehow we survived.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 22 February 2013, 15:29:40
Beautiful sea horses indeed.
No pics of a Tasmanian devil yet, Stuart?  ;) :D
A charming description from Wiki:
"It is characterised by its stocky and muscular build, black fur, pungent odour, extremely loud and disturbing screech, keen sense of smell, and ferocity when feeding."

I trust the wiki description was about the Tasmanian devil and not this devil.  ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 22 February 2013, 15:40:46
I remember my sisters - 8 and 10 years younger than me - being taken out for walks long before they could sit up and see anything, because fresh air was needed.  They (and probably I) were never just left outside alone, but the weather limits seemed to be everything was okay as long as my mother wanted to go walking in it.  Taking a well-wrapped baby out on a cold day is perfectly fine to my American soul; just leaving a baby out of sight and hearing alone in the weather is what appalls.  I can see the logic of it, especially in the safe suburban neighborhood my sisters were born to, it just is simply an un-American thing to do.  Colds and illnesses come from other people, not from being outdoors.

I question the logic of it in the center of bigger cities; at what point do too many cars make the air not fresh?
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Tegwen on 22 February 2013, 16:21:30
Yes, snow kept us in and fog was a real keep the baby inside day - we lived near a big chemical factory.  To horrify modern mums - in frosty weather there would be ice on the inside of baby's bedroom window! Somehow we survived.

I can remember chipping the ice of the inside of the window in my parents house when I was a child. Didnt bother us at all.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: AvastMH on 22 February 2013, 16:53:59
Yes, snow kept us in and fog was a real keep the baby inside day - we lived near a big chemical factory.  To horrify modern mums - in frosty weather there would be ice on the inside of baby's bedroom window! Somehow we survived.

I can remember chipping the ice of the inside of the window in my parents house when I was a child. Didnt bother us at all.

oh yes -do you remember making nail-scraped pictures in hoar frost on the inside of the windows?  You could 'huff' on them, wait for your breath to freeze - and start all over again. Kids with central-heating - they don;t know what they are missing ( :o ;))
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Craig on 22 February 2013, 18:56:13
I remember my dad ironing the bed sheets to make it warm enough to jump in. The only source of heat, apart from the oven, was coal oil stove in the livingroom of our little cottage on a cliff overlooking Puget Sound.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Caro on 22 February 2013, 18:59:32
I now expect Kathy to contribute something from an old Monty Python routine.  ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Craig on 22 February 2013, 20:06:30
or perhaps a Dickens novel?  ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Kathy on 22 February 2013, 23:47:50
I'm horrified!  You poor people - I'm swooning here with my fan and mint julep - ice should only be in a glass!  All I can say is  this  (https://www.youtube.com/tv?vq=medium#/watch?v=HXSyJkkFVAk)

Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 23 February 2013, 04:14:57
Ho Caro (etal)
Tas devil pic and others.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Kathy on 23 February 2013, 04:53:59
Cool!

The cove is beautiful - looks like my kind of spot -

is that you?  you still have that air of nonchalantness like in your younger picture -

That Devil looks like how I feel right now - the dog had to go out at 4 am - ugh!
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Caro on 23 February 2013, 04:57:33
Excellent pics! Thanks Stuart.
Your Tasmanian devil looks quite friendly.
You have had good weather obviously. Looks lovely.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 23 February 2013, 05:06:22
What a wonderful vacation with such wonderful weather.  Enjoy!!
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 23 February 2013, 05:12:06
Thanks Kathy. That's me. Well I am only 64 1/2 years young. Missus Pommy was in the Crackpot Post Office picture.
We have been blessed with the weather, glad not sailing back today as the seas are starting to rise, only 2m to 3m on a 1m swell but getting  bigger. I saw the forecast as 'Seas, Confused'.
Did you know the average depth of Bass Strait is only 50 mtrs (160 ft)
Raining with a capital R back at home, we needed it.
The Cove is actually Dove Lake @ 800mtrs in the Cradle Mtn Range Tasmania. There was SNOW there in January (mid summer) when there were Fires in the south of the Island. Go figure that for weather in a small Island (26 409 sq miles or 68 401 sq km).
Many tourists fly in to Hobart, bus to the Cradle Mountain Lodge for a day or so and then fly home with a tick on the to do list for Tasmania. That is a pity as there is so much to do.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Kathy on 23 February 2013, 05:18:48
I thought that was Mrs. Pommy - she seems to be having a fine time!

I'm glad your trip is going so well - We have got to go Down Under some day -
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 23 February 2013, 05:29:20
Actually, Mrs Pommy is an Ozi but lets not get technical she just married a Pommy.   :D

Please do drop Down Under, see a lovely country of many contrasts and see us if you want.
If you do come then you had better allow a few days to look around as it's only about the size of the Contiguous USA, and we have farms as big as the state of Texas.  :P
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Craig on 23 February 2013, 06:49:09
This is a great tour of Tasmania for us, Stuart! I really enjoy seeing the pics.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Randi on 23 February 2013, 06:57:03
COLD and SNOW here.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Helen J on 23 February 2013, 07:02:30
Good afternoon (just!) OW.  Cold here, no snow, but grey and windy.  It's going to have to be a brisk walk this afternoon.

The rooks just outside my window aren't daunted though, and are busy noisily building their nests.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Dean on 23 February 2013, 07:28:40
Sounds like a great trip, Pommey.

BTW - I'd LOVE the steam boat. Can you sneak it out in your luggage??!! ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 23 February 2013, 14:47:39
Memorial park in Launceston.
Very user friendly, not just a list of people and they even  had a table for me.  ;D
There was also hut with a fireplace and wall art (example shown)
Lazy day today.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 23 February 2013, 15:57:38
They clearly knew you were coming, when they named that table! 8)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: AvastMH on 23 February 2013, 16:02:01
Memorial park in Launceston.
Very user friendly, not just a list of people and they even  had a table for me.  ;D
There was also hut with a fireplace and wall art (example shown)
Lazy day today.

Great pics Stuart...looks like a lovely holiday. Of course you should bag the cap'ns table!   ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Dean on 23 February 2013, 16:58:46
The Sailor's Prayer is truly special! We should find a place for it in our Archives somewhere as a tribute to all our sailors in OW! :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 23 February 2013, 19:24:25
The right hand side picture probably should NOT go in the archives.  "Liberty Men to Clean"  ;D
Again it was from the Memorial park.

Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 23 February 2013, 21:28:41
If we wanted the poem as a serious memorial, we'd need to crop the picture.  I personally am glad to have an idea what was pleasing the young woman at the cafe table.

And your new avatar is both fierce and cute.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 23 February 2013, 22:16:42
For Janet.
The other half of the lady picture, though, I don't get the tag line?
Stuart

I can send the full size pic of the poem to an email if anybody wants it.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 23 February 2013, 23:14:55
I know from my parents and grandparents stories, during WW2 soldiers regularly brought home other soldiers who weren't close enough to go to their own homes on a short leave.  I would guess they called first, to be sure Mom was actually home and cooking that evening.  And women in the military were fairly new.  I'm thinking in this case, Mom was expecting a boy and had invited a young woman to give one or both of them company.  And got an already engaged romance walking in her door instead.  (Not that the romance got very far under her roof in those days.)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 24 February 2013, 00:54:51
Coin drops.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: AvastMH on 24 February 2013, 12:50:41
...And your new avatar is both fierce and cute.

I agree Janet. Mind you....
It's a dentists dream/nightmare..."open wide sir ...M1 good. M2 clear....yes they all look fine, good, you can close now sir."
It's almost got a flip top head...and no sense of humour. Are you sure about this one Stuart?  ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 25 February 2013, 01:01:32
....
And your new avatar is both fierce and cute.

It sums up me and the misses, I am the cute fierce one. she is the fierce cute one.  %^0
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Caro on 25 February 2013, 04:23:24
Good morning OW.

News from the supercontinent:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-21551149
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Randi on 25 February 2013, 06:45:49
Neat!
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Craig on 25 February 2013, 07:45:09
Yes. It's hard for me to imagine how the continents came to their current configuration from what the pieces looked like 700 m years ago.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: AvastMH on 25 February 2013, 12:16:53
Shhhh! Don't mention continental drift - or someone will issue peak-time tickets for the ride. ::)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Craig on 25 February 2013, 13:02:45
I'm only beset and drifting in the ice floes, Joan.  ;D

Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: AvastMH on 25 February 2013, 14:16:44
Whoa! Don't get dizzy Craig - your floe is moving like the speed of light compared to my continent....don't get swimmy in the head and fall off!  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Caro on 26 February 2013, 11:51:35
Howdy all.
And the winner is ....  http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-21588327  ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: szukacz on 26 February 2013, 11:59:49
 ;D Yes! Yes! Yes!  ;D
The Vulcanis closer than we thought
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Caro on 26 February 2013, 12:17:48
True szukacz. I thought it was in another solar system at least!  ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: szukacz on 26 February 2013, 13:16:58
 ;) :) :D ;D ...last frontier
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Dean on 26 February 2013, 16:27:19
To boldly go....... ;) ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: AvastMH on 26 February 2013, 16:31:02
Oh no! Vulcan! Do any of you remember Plomik soup?.... ;D ;D ;D
Lets Trek Me Hearties.. oh yes...
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Randi on 26 February 2013, 17:46:17
http://www.geekychef.com/2010/01/plomeek-soup.html
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: AvastMH on 26 February 2013, 18:30:12
 ;D ;D ;D...next time your passing by for lunch... ;)
in the meantime - live long and prosper 8)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Caro on 28 February 2013, 03:11:20
Hello OW.

Mind-boggling: http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/2013/feb/27/supermassive-black-hole-rotate-speed-light
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Caro on 28 February 2013, 05:30:59
This is worth another post (http://forum.oldweather.org/index.php?topic=23.msg62720#msg62720):

http://blog.zooniverse.org/2013/02/27/calling-all-zooites-your-chance-to-attend-the-second-zooniverse-project-workshop-in-chicago/

Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: szukacz on 28 February 2013, 15:40:13
Congratulations!!!
http://www.antarctica.ac.uk/press/press_releases/press_release.php?id=2057
ISS on the Earth
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 28 February 2013, 19:25:48
Two very interesting articles.  Thanks, Caro and Szukacz.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Caro on 01 March 2013, 02:55:06
Hello OW on this Dydd Gŵyl Dewi.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 01 March 2013, 03:36:57
Well done Caro.
Had to use that famous search engine to find that one.
And a Happy St Davids day to you.

Dewi Sant yw Nawddsant Cymru. Mae Dydd Gwyl Dewi yn cael ei ddathlu ar Mawrth 1.

(St. David is the patron saint of Wales. The St David's Day is celebrated on March 1.)

Bet you didn't know I don't speak fluent garlick, did you.  ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: jil on 01 March 2013, 03:42:00
I knew there was a reason I'd bought leeks yesterday.  ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 01 March 2013, 03:52:03
The saddle you have to go over to see Wineglass Bay in the Freycinet National Park.
View from the lookout.
Local friendly wildlife.
Some not so friendly wildlife, they toss cars for sport.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Caro on 01 March 2013, 04:21:53
Great pics Stuart.
That is either a very small car on the sign or a very big roo.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: AvastMH on 01 March 2013, 15:33:46
Well done Caro.
Had to use that famous search engine to find that one.
And a Happy St Davids day to you.

Dewi Sant yw Nawddsant Cymru. Mae Dydd Gwyl Dewi yn cael ei ddathlu ar Mawrth 1.

(St. David is the patron saint of Wales. The St David's Day is celebrated on March 1.)

Bet you didn't know I don't speak fluent garlick, did you.  ;D


Ummmm...it's Welsh ( ;) ;) ;D)


Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Kathy on 01 March 2013, 15:51:46
just say caws -
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 01 March 2013, 16:27:49
Bet you didn't know I don't speak fluent garlick, did you.  ;D


Ummmm...it's Welsh ( ;) ;) ;D)

I still don't speak fluent garlick.  ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Steeleye on 02 March 2013, 05:34:06
Good to see that you are enjoying yourself Stuart.  Tassie is a great place for a break, particularly if you are partial to seafood.  We just got back from the Ghan train trip (amongst other things). I suspect that we were a little bit warmer than you were!  44C in Alice Springs, 41 in Katherine Gorge, mid 30s and high 90s humidity in Darwin.  A couple of snaps below.

The Finke River crossing, south of Alice Springs - not usually the place for a refreshing dip, unless you enjoy hot sand:

A Thorny Devil, an example of the aesthetic desert wildlife:

A pair of Steeleyes posing in front of the wetlands of the Kakadu National Park.

It was a tough ten days, but we somehow struggled through!


Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Caro on 02 March 2013, 06:00:26
Welcome back Howard. Looks like you had a great trip.
The thorny devil is very impressive.  :D
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 02 March 2013, 08:14:01
That train trip sounds wonderful. It's good to see you. :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: AvastMH on 02 March 2013, 10:36:07
Sounds like a grand trip Steeleye  ;D (but I'd have melted down at the north end of it  :o)...
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Kathy on 02 March 2013, 11:24:00
I'm left wondering if the male Steeleye is a thorny devil too!

 ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Craig on 02 March 2013, 13:44:29
Me too. I thought the thorny devil was the fellow with the white beard  :D ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 02 March 2013, 15:42:05
I am envious of Howards beard, I can only get half that before I get in trouble from 'her indoors'.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 02 March 2013, 15:45:42
As we are playing leapfrog with the Concord pages, If anybody see's crew joining or leaving the ship would you please PM me with their name(s). I can then update the crew list.
Thanks
Stuart.
pommy stuart
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Steeleye on 02 March 2013, 16:17:53
Me too. I thought the thorny devil was the fellow with the white beard  :D ;)

Aren't we all feeling comedic this morning ... it was all just comedy, wasn't it?

In truth, I think that the Thorny Devil has more cause to feel disgruntled at any mistaken identity than I do.

 ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: AvastMH on 02 March 2013, 17:03:42
 ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Steeleye on 04 March 2013, 03:11:24
The latest report from the Australian Government's Climate Commission says the weather extremes experienced around the country this summer were made worse by climate change.

See http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-03-04/climate-commission-says-summer-extremes-made-worse-by-climate/4550894 (http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-03-04/climate-commission-says-summer-extremes-made-worse-by-climate/4550894) for one version of the article and a link to the actual report.

I only intend to provide a link that is relevant to the work that we are doing here, not to provoke a "yes we do, no we don't" argument on human impacts on climate change.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Caro on 04 March 2013, 04:35:29
This too: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-21651067
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Steeleye on 04 March 2013, 05:41:27
Wellingtons and broad-brimmed sun hats will be issued to all 'new arrivals' on leaving the Maternity Hospital!

 :-*
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 04 March 2013, 15:23:07
One for Randi.   ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: jil on 04 March 2013, 15:34:22
 ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Randi on 04 March 2013, 15:44:44
One for Randi.   ;D
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Craig on 04 March 2013, 16:24:10
Very good,  Mmopy Arsttu.  ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Randi on 04 March 2013, 16:25:29
 ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Caro on 04 March 2013, 16:53:53
Ha ha ha.  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Dean on 04 March 2013, 17:12:55
NO!  It's 'aH, aH, aH!!' ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Craig on 04 March 2013, 17:20:39
KO, that's enough  :D
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Dean on 04 March 2013, 17:27:47
I had this on a T shirt a long time ago. - took a while to track it down on the Internet :P

http://www.goines.net/Writing/the_alphabet.html


The Alphabet in Alphabetical Order ::)

Aich (H)
Arr (R)
Ay (A)
Aye (I)
Bee (B)
Dee (D)
Djee (G)
Double-you (W)
Ee (E)
Eff (F)
El (L)
Em (M)
En (N)
Ess (S)
Ex (X)
Jay (J)
Kay (K)
Kew (Q)
Oh (O)
Pee (P)
See (C)
Tee (T)
Vee (V)
Wye (Y)
You (U)
Zee (Z)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 04 March 2013, 18:17:57
Very good,  Mmopy Arsttu.  ;D

And a good morning to you Sir from Hobart, Tasmania.  :D
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 04 March 2013, 18:34:43
Tasi pics.
Wineglass Bay Freycinet Peninsula Nat Pk.
Abel Tasman thing in Hobart.
Woodies in Constitution Dock (Back on is the May Queen)
A plastic fantastic (?)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 04 March 2013, 19:00:46
A beautiful country.  The plastic one looks like it wants to fly. :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Craig on 04 March 2013, 19:31:59
Now you've thrown out a challenge to US OW readers of difficult writing, Stuart. What is the name of the plastic fantastic?

Is it Penguin Sea on the left side? and something like Brigitte Bordee on the right?

If you don't remember, you'll have to go back and check.  ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Caro on 05 March 2013, 02:30:10
Easy. Brigitte Bardot: https://www.facebook.com/SeaShepherdBrigitte

Morning all.

Gool Peran Lowen!
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: AvastMH on 05 March 2013, 02:50:13
Gool Peran Lowen! Well spotted Caro!

(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-gOEMBFej9PU/TXJM1vAxmiI/AAAAAAAAArQ/0_RUUOfDYVQ/s1600/cornish_pasty430x300.jpg)  a fine platter of teddy oggies (or 'the vegetarian's lament')

and a toast to Trelawney to boot.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: szukacz on 05 March 2013, 05:25:43
And it's almost like this:

Roll clouds (http://www.google.pl/url?sa=i&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=images&cd=&cad=rja&docid=Mqzw7GXPEo-0AM&tbnid=02qkbIPo8SoExM:&ved=0CAUQjRw&url=http%3A%2F%2Faibob.blogspot.com%2F2011%2F11%2Fmorning-glory-clouds.html&ei=acc1UblxydGyBqOOgOgP&bvm=bv.43148975,d.bGE&psig=AFQjCNEPVrheNCdhuQaVWK2WotQa4TH1Zw&ust=1362565316715259)

Greetings to Australians.  8)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Steeleye on 05 March 2013, 05:49:09
And good evening to our Polish colleague/s.  The 'morning glory' clouds are certainly amazing.  Unfortunately, like a lot of amazing things in the natural world, they tend to be a long way from anywhere that isn't remote!  It's just as well that we have cameras and an internet.

I was just looking at the weather up your way, szukacz, and I see that you have a chilly spell on the way. My source shows Warsaw at -16 to -5C at this time next week.  I hope you didn't think that spring was on its way.

 :o
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: AvastMH on 05 March 2013, 06:27:22
And it's almost like this:

Roll clouds (http://www.google.pl/url?sa=i&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=images&cd=&cad=rja&docid=Mqzw7GXPEo-0AM&tbnid=02qkbIPo8SoExM:&ved=0CAUQjRw&url=http%3A%2F%2Faibob.blogspot.com%2F2011%2F11%2Fmorning-glory-clouds.html&ei=acc1UblxydGyBqOOgOgP&bvm=bv.43148975,d.bGE&psig=AFQjCNEPVrheNCdhuQaVWK2WotQa4TH1Zw&ust=1362565316715259)

Greetings to Australians.  8)

True! But I bet the clouds don't taste as nice Szukacz  (keep well wrapped up in Poland)
J
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Dean on 05 March 2013, 07:57:08
Tasi pics.
Wineglass Bay Freycinet Peninsula Nat Pk.
Abel Tasman thing in Hobart.
Woodies in Constitution Dock (Back on is the May Queen)
A plastic fantastic (?)

I'll take the 'woodies' but they are an AWFUL lot of WORK!!! (Besides, THAT would keep me from my OW addiction! ;D)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 05 March 2013, 07:58:59
GOOL PERAN LOWEN! (http://gemheaven.blogspot.com/2013/03/gool-peran-lowen.html)

I keep learning new things here. ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Kathy on 05 March 2013, 10:19:16
Good Morning all -

something cool for your perusal -

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/capital-weather-gang/post/the-structure-of-a-snowflake-photos/2013/03/05/9349ca40-854f-11e2-9d71-f0feafdd1394_blog.html?wprss=rss_local
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Randi on 05 March 2013, 11:38:47
Giant camel fossil found in Arctic (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-21673940)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: AvastMH on 05 March 2013, 13:28:18
lumey - if one of those spat at you, you'd know it alright.  :o
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 05 March 2013, 15:05:33
And it's almost like this:

Roll clouds (http://www.google.pl/url?sa=i&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=images&cd=&cad=rja&docid=Mqzw7GXPEo-0AM&tbnid=02qkbIPo8SoExM:&ved=0CAUQjRw&url=http%3A%2F%2Faibob.blogspot.com%2F2011%2F11%2Fmorning-glory-clouds.html&ei=acc1UblxydGyBqOOgOgP&bvm=bv.43148975,d.bGE&psig=AFQjCNEPVrheNCdhuQaVWK2WotQa4TH1Zw&ust=1362565316715259)

Greetings to Australians.  8)

And to you also (insert first name here please).
A lot of Glider pilots (well the ones who have a lot of money) go up north to fly along the Morning Glory.
The occasional Hand Gliders and Paragliders have been known to surf the cloud.
What would you put in the OW log for that formation?
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Dean on 05 March 2013, 17:51:11
Good Morning all -

something cool for your perusal -

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/capital-weather-gang/post/the-structure-of-a-snowflake-photos/2013/03/05/9349ca40-854f-11e2-9d71-f0feafdd1394_blog.html?wprss=rss_local

My friend Tom Niziol who was Head of the Buffalo National Weather Service Office until his recent retirement was a real snow flake freak.(Say THAT 3 times fast!) ;)
He posted many great pics which I share for your further enjoyment:  http://www.buffaloflakes.com/
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 05 March 2013, 18:34:40
I've always loved the tiny beauty of snowflakes.  Very appropriate today, just north of Chicago I've got about 5 inches outside with another 4 hours of snowfall to go.  The nice part, it's March and spring snow rarely hangs around for a month.

(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_OvonoKii_ds/S6T8qB0i6hI/AAAAAAAAFY4/C08eRCfzMGc/s400/snowchicago.jpg)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Kathy on 05 March 2013, 23:48:31
Very nice - if what the models are saying is true, we are about to see many, many different flakes  ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 06 March 2013, 00:02:51
It's definitely a big snow covering a smallish area - the south suburbs got away with only 3", while the northwest suburbs were buried in 10".  You'll have to wait to see what part of it hits you, and what it has morphed into getting over the lakes and mountains.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Steeleye on 06 March 2013, 03:03:42
Hi Janet,

We've just been watching the TV news and Chicago's weather woes featured prominently.  It looks like you're having a real good dumping of snow at the moment.  May I suggest that it's a good oportunity to stay in and do some serious transcribing and editing?

 ;D

Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 06 March 2013, 03:19:53
I instinctively stock up before a big storm hits - comes from a lifetime of this climate.  Curling up inside while it is snowing outside is very cozy. :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 06 March 2013, 03:54:36
35C and calm sea.

Not saying what today was like.

Two dolphins at play some distance away.
Hi from the seals.
Don't blame me, it just framed that way.
Where am I?
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Steeleye on 06 March 2013, 04:36:35
I suspect that No 4 is Cape Pillar light house. Close?
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Caro on 06 March 2013, 04:46:47
Yeah. Tasman Island. http://www.lighthouse.net.au/lights/TAS/Tasman%20Island/Tasman%20Island.htm
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Craig on 06 March 2013, 09:43:42
Giant camel fossil found in Arctic (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-21673940)

I just saw the article in today's paper. It was found in the Canadian Arctic by a scientist from the Canadian Museum of Civilisation. They'll have to do a rewrite of Lawrence of Arabia  ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Randi on 06 March 2013, 10:59:13
St. Lawrence of Canada?
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Kathy on 06 March 2013, 11:00:11
He's already got things named for him, there -  ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Craig on 06 March 2013, 15:09:25
St. Lawrence of Canada?

 ;D ;D ;D
We did have a prime minister named Louis Saint Laurent but I don't think he had any camel riding experience.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 07 March 2013, 01:15:39
Yeah. Tasman Island. http://www.lighthouse.net.au/lights/TAS/Tasman%20Island/Tasman%20Island.htm

And 5 points go to Caro.
For the next quiz go the Tas Trip post.
 Tas Trip (http://forum.oldweather.org/index.php?topic=3626.0)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 07 March 2013, 05:48:01
If anyone is interested in complicated iron-work, they are replacing a 91-year-old double-decker draw bridge in downtown Chicago.  The Wells Street bridge crosses the Chicago River, carrying cars and pedestrians at ground level and 'L' trains on the higher level, and can be raised to allow masted ships through.  Interesting.  Both the Brown Line and the Purple Express Line trains must use that bridge to get to the Loop.

http://www.npr.org/2013/03/06/173597138/chicago-commuters-brace-for-delays-during-bridge-repair

(http://media.npr.org/assets/img/2013/03/06/bridge-01-079ac51584926610276c4f3ab892e9f48a297be1-s3.jpg)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Helen J on 07 March 2013, 11:48:00
Are you going to give us regular updates as you did the last time they did this kind of thing near you?  I surprised myself by finding that really fascinating to follow. :D
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 07 March 2013, 12:16:10
The last time, it was one block away and I could go out and snap a pic every few hours.  This is a hour's 'L' ride away (because my Purple express is shut down!) so no, I won't.  I can't spend 9 days down there.  But I found the city's YouTube animation of the process:

https://www.youtube.com/tv?vq=medium#/watch?v=MHBK-v4LSco

It used to be, the mouth of the Chicago River was the industrial harbor, with grain silos and everything.  That all moved when they dredged out Calumet Harbor and the Cal-Sag channel.  (Used to be a tiny lake connected to Lake Michigan by a very short river, both of which had silted shut creating unusable swamp land, called ancient Lake Calumet by geologists.  They just dug out the silt and let water flow back in.)  Before then, all bridges had to let large boats through hourly.  Now, it's only pleasure boats and they schedule when the bridges will be opened, and they all go in or out together.  Every spring or fall there is a regatta - everyone who winters their boat on the river wants to get to the lake marinas.  Someone did a YouTube also of the first spring bridge lift.  The first 2 double-decker bridges carry cars on the bottom and trains on top.  The last one has cars on both levels - the outer Lake Shore Drive and Lower Wacker Drive (which is another story.)

https://www.youtube.com/tv?vq=medium#/watch?v=mJhnaTKEPOU&mode=transport

Quote
A time-lapse look at most of the active moveable bridges on the south and main branches of the Chicago river.
What's moving (in order):
Canal Street Railroad Bridge (built 1914)
St. Charles Airline Railroad Bridge (built 1919)
Roosevelt Road Bridge
Jackson Street Bridge
Adams Street Bridge
Madison Street Bridge
Washington Street Bridge
Lake Street Bridge
Wells Street Bridge
La Salle Drive Bridge
Clark Street Bridge
Dearborn Street Bridge
State Street Bridge
DuSable (Michigan Avenue) Bridge
Outer Drive (Lake Shore Drive) Bridge
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Helen J on 07 March 2013, 15:39:20
Thanks for that Janet - it made it look quite simple!  I hope the reality is as easy and it all gets done to schedule.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 07 March 2013, 18:29:44
It's simple only when seen from a distance.  I still haven't figured out how can bend both levels without damaging the rails on the top.  But it does look very elegant somehow.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Caro on 08 March 2013, 03:09:32
Good day to you all.

Paddle steamers, including the wonderful Medway Queen.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/history/0/21634967
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: AvastMH on 08 March 2013, 03:17:32
Good morning to you Caro - love the paddle steamers -very enjoyable.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: studentforever on 08 March 2013, 03:44:34
I know we don't work down south but this is interesting

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-21692423
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Caro on 08 March 2013, 03:50:16
It's amazing stuff, Rosemary.
I heard a member of the team speaking about mapping the Gamburtsev mountains on the radio this morning.
As the BBC article says:
"This range is the size of the European Alps with the tallest peaks reaching 3,000m above sea-level - and yet they are still hidden below more than a 1,000m of ice."
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 08 March 2013, 05:11:18
Amazing stuff.  Thanks, Caro and Rosemary.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Craig on 08 March 2013, 06:40:08
Interesting links Caro and Rosemary.  I wouldn't like to have been crammed onto one of those early paddle boats. There didn't appear to be any lifeboats either.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Caro on 09 March 2013, 07:05:07
Hiya all.
Another day, another interesting pic; this time from The Guardian.
How many owls?

(http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/pictures/2013/3/7/1362671499880/86fd5cd8-44e6-4c6a-ab1d-3d503f296a8d-320x480.jpeg)
Photograph: Marina Scarr/Caters News Agency
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Kathy on 09 March 2013, 08:45:32
3?
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Dean on 09 March 2013, 08:49:46
2? ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Helen J on 09 March 2013, 09:01:42
2 for sure, possibly a third?
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Caro on 09 March 2013, 09:39:53
Yes, there are two. Mamma and baby.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Caro on 10 March 2013, 03:28:50
Good morning OW.

Happy Mother's Day, or Mothering Sunday, to all mums in the UK.  :D
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Craig on 10 March 2013, 08:13:44
Daylight saving begins here.  I got an extra hour of transcribing this morning.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: AvastMH on 10 March 2013, 08:42:32
3 weeks to wait for that in the UK!  :'(  (it'll be  ;D all day in 3 week's time though)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Craig on 10 March 2013, 09:21:28
All day transcribing, Joan, or all day saving daylight?

Just realized that I lost an hour rather than gained one. That's what happens when you're retired. But I put in an extra hour anyway.  ;D

We wouldn't be putting our clocks ahead so early in the year if it weren't for the U.S. Just when it's nice and bright at 7 AM and they plunge us back into darkness.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Dean on 10 March 2013, 10:16:14
Around here the opposite of PROgress is CONgress!! ::)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: AvastMH on 10 March 2013, 10:43:52
Oh darn - it is an hour less for the day isn't it?....nope...hate this one.....very much.  :( :(

Never mind - we are pretty much at the vernal equinox so the the length of the day is changing at maximum speed just now. Good for us but Stuart will have to get his long socks out to go with his shorts soon...  ::)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Craig on 10 March 2013, 11:47:39
Around here the opposite of PROgress is CONgress!! ::)

 ;D  and   :'( 

So true. Same for the current Canadian government.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Thursday Next on 10 March 2013, 14:31:48
Oh darn - it is an hour less for the day isn't it?....nope...hate this one.....very much.  :( :(

Never mind - we are pretty much at the vernal equinox so the the length of the day is changing at maximum speed just now. Good for us but Stuart will have to get his long socks out to go with his shorts soon...  ::)

I hate it too!  And to make it worse it is Easter weekend and I have a lot on.  Thank heaven for retirement - at least I can take as long as I like afterwards to get over it!
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Steeleye on 11 March 2013, 01:24:21
Today is Canberra Day ... in Canberra.  Usually a beautiful time of the year and a great time for the hot air balloon festival (the politician-powered versions have a lower carbon footprint).

The balloons come in all sorts of shapes, all of them large.  The turtle is particularly eccentric (snapped from our balcony early this morning). The basket (for about 8 people), just below his right foot, gives an idea of his size.  In previous years, we have had balloons in the shape of a milk carton and a giant gas bottle. About 25 years ago when we lived in the 'burbs, one of them managed to lose one of its gas storage bottles (about a metre high and weighing plenty) through the roof of a house a couple of streets from where we lived. The bottle landed in the dining room, fortunately not when the owners were having their cornflakes.

Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 11 March 2013, 02:16:36
That is one cool balloon.  What fun!!

Have you seen the Google doodle today?  Douglas Adams birthday. ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: AvastMH on 11 March 2013, 02:49:37
Excellent turtle - very tempting to try and tie those laces..
Great google.  I still have the towel my mum gave me when I left home - and that's a long time back. And I don;t often panic,  perhaps Douglas Adams had it right!
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Caro on 11 March 2013, 02:51:26
Hello all.

No panicking here either!
Nice to see Mr Adams remembered.  :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 11 March 2013, 02:56:10
Oh darn - it is an hour less for the day isn't it?....nope...hate this one.....very much.  :( :(

Never mind - we are pretty much at the vernal equinox so the the length of the day is changing at maximum speed just now. Good for us but Stuart will have to get his long socks out to go with his shorts soon...  ::)

Lovely legs in shorts now, soon lovely legs hidden in jeans.  :(
Daylight saving begins Sunday   7 Oct 2012   ends 7 April 2013
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Maikel on 11 March 2013, 03:24:07
Last week we had a record breaking 18.7C, today it's around freezing point (-10C wind-chill) and snowing.

You can't help but start to blame the climate change, or has Slartibartfast started to create his famous fjords further down south?
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: AvastMH on 11 March 2013, 03:42:57
Only if the mice approve!  ;D

PS - does anyone remember a list of Mediterranean place names? I was sure I'd seen one sometime around. TVM, J
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Randi on 11 March 2013, 04:11:15
Yes, it is in the editor's board http://forum.oldweather.org/index.php?topic=2320.msg32889#msg32889
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Maikel on 11 March 2013, 04:19:35
If only I had a vessel with an improbability drive...
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: propriome on 11 March 2013, 04:35:31
42
(I always thought something was fundamentally wrong with the universe - A. Dent)  ;) ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: AvastMH on 11 March 2013, 08:17:36
If only I had a vessel with an improbability drive...

Surely an INFINITE improbability drive?  ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: AvastMH on 11 March 2013, 08:23:02
Yes, it is in the editor's board http://forum.oldweather.org/index.php?topic=2320.msg32889#msg32889
Thanks! - lots!
J ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: AvastMH on 11 March 2013, 12:14:48
Hello ALL - I need help! Is anyone interested to come and help with this Weather day in Oxford...the Museum of the History of Science have had a poor response so far and are very enthusiastic about our project and about having anyone there to represent it! If anyone is Oxford that day, and wishes to help please let me know. If anyone wishes to come up to Oxford to help please let me know - I can put one person up for sure for the Friday/Saturday night. If fares to Oxford to help are a problem please let me know too.
Any suggestions for things for kids to do on a table to do with OW = please let me know!
Best, Joan

Hi Joan.

 Thanks for telling us about that - It sounds as if they should include a talk on oldWeather.org as amateur historical meteorology, which should ideally be given by a local enthusiast - that's you, of course.
 Don't feel obliged, but if you feel at all tempted to talk to them about oldWeather - go for it. You know as much about what we're about, and why it's interesting, as anybody. (And you've probably seen enough talks at AOPP to realise you could give a clearer and better presentation than many scientists).
 I can't be in Oxford on April 6th, but I'd be happy to help you (or anybody else) with material to talk about oW to the museum (or anybody else).

 This is a serious suggestion, but don't get stressed by it - go for it if you're tempted, but let it go if you'd rather not.

Cheers, Philip

P.S. I'll be in Oxford for the Zooniverse event on June 22nd (forum post coming up shortly). With luck I'll see you at that.
 

I nearly fell off my chair with excitement when I read this on a circular email at work a few minutes ago.  PLEASE NOTE, Michelle Holloway is only in the office on Mondays and Tuesdays - and the deadline to show interest is Friday week. If anyone wants to call for further info her number is 0044 (0) 1865 277297.  I called them today and apparently they also have some sessions for navigation instruments, one was being held today I think. The museum url is: http://www.mhs.ox.ac.uk/


-------------------------------
Seeking Meteorological Speakers!

The Museum of the History of Science is holding a day of weather-related activities to mark the end of its current special exhibition, Atmospheres on Saturday 6th April from 10am-5pm. We are looking for enthusiastic meteorological-types to give a series of 'flash talks' (15-20 mins each) throughout the day. These may be about current areas of research, or speakers could choose from some possible topics that we thought might interest our audience. Interactivity or demonstrations would be encouraged.                                     

Possible topics:

- How to read weather forecasts
- Understanding the shipping forecast?
- Extreme weather
- clouds and rain formation
- manipulating the weather, e.g. cloud seding
- weather on other planets
- a history of Radcliffe Met

Talks or demonstrations should be aimed at a general audience with little or no expert knowledge of meteorology. If you would like give a talk, or discuss possible topics and timings, please contact Michelle Holloway at the Museum (michelle.holloway@mhs.ox.ac.uk) by Friday 16th March.

Please do pass this email on to any colleagues with a passion for public engagement.

Laura Ashby
Audience Development Officer
Museum of the History of Science
Broad Street, Oxford, OX1 3AZ
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Thursday Next on 11 March 2013, 13:10:57
I always liked Douglas Adams's quote about deadlines, and how he liked the whooshing noise they made as they went past!
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 11 March 2013, 14:08:48
And its fun what the calculator does when you click the arrow. ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Caro on 12 March 2013, 04:03:11
Hello OW.
Anybody seen Pan-STARRS yet?
http://astronomical-calendar.org.uk/index.php/comet-panstarrs
It has made an appearance on INCOMING over on Solar Stormwatch.
http://www.solarstormwatch.com/spot_and_track/incoming
It starts near the middle of Stereo B's video.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 12 March 2013, 08:21:45
Thanks for the video, it looks to be the only sight I'll get of it. 

Quote
To see the comet we suggest;
   A clear uncluttered southwestern horizon;
   A reasonably clear sky;
   Binoculars.
Read more: http://www.universetoday.com/100619/update-comet-panstarrs-makes-its-northern-hemisphere-debut/#ixzz2NKa3dJXR

I currently have the binoculars but with a ocp sky with Chicago to the SW. :'(
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: studentforever on 12 March 2013, 13:24:03
We may not be alone.  Conditions where life may have formed found on Mars.  Watch out for the little green men. ;)

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-21755976
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Caro on 13 March 2013, 02:10:26
Hello OW.
Pan-STARRS? Here is an amazing pic.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/skynoir/8553652192/

Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: AvastMH on 13 March 2013, 03:05:29
Good mormning Caro, and all,
That IS an amazing picture!  :o
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 13 March 2013, 07:13:31
Love that pic!
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: szukacz on 13 March 2013, 10:07:37
.......................
Breathtaking
.....................
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Caro on 13 March 2013, 12:33:45
Look at this, comet watchers! http://vimeo.com/61684192
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: AvastMH on 13 March 2013, 12:58:05
I feel weak at the knees... what a stunner
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Craig on 13 March 2013, 14:24:15
That's a better view than we could ever get in any urban location. Very stunning!
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Kathy on 13 March 2013, 14:25:39
Wow Helen J - what do you think of that? Francis I!
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 13 March 2013, 15:05:58
The first non-European pope in more than 1400 years.  Things are changing.
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Post by: propriome on 13 March 2013, 15:29:12
Definitely ;D

The first Francesco in church history too, and that name had been carefully avoided in past centuries.
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Post by: jules on 13 March 2013, 16:22:25
Hello Old Weather-ers! I haven't been in here for ages I know (too much Solar Stormwatching and Moon Zooing...) but I do still dabble in the occasional ship's log! Nice to see a Solar Stormwatch Panstarrs mention here too. :) How are you all doing?
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Post by: Caro on 13 March 2013, 17:10:43
Hiya Jules. Nice to see you here.  :D
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Post by: Janet Jaguar on 13 March 2013, 17:58:02
Hello Old Weather-ers! I haven't been in here for ages I know (too much Solar Stormwatching and Moon Zooing...) but I do still dabble in the occasional ship's log! Nice to see a Solar Stormwatch Panstarrs mention here too. :) How are you all doing?

Welcome back!!

We're collecting lots of aurora sightings lately - you may wish to play on the Jeanette, Solar Watch has been asking for those records.  It lets you feed both. :)
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Post by: AvastMH on 14 March 2013, 03:40:51
Definitely ;D

The first Francesco in church history too, and that name had been carefully avoided in past centuries.

Any reason why it was avoided I wonder?  Saw the announcement at the Vatican  - and was surprised that the crowd were so silent when the name was announced. He was a front runner for the job was he not?  :-\
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Post by: propriome on 14 March 2013, 04:43:52
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Any reason why it was avoided I wonder?
San Francesco (Saint Francis of Assisi) in creating the Franciscan order brought up the curch to several radical changes... the rule of poverty (amongst others) was so distant from 1200 Curch, that his order could have been easily accused of heresy like the Waldesians.
The name Francesco has remained tied to the figure of a radical reformer, willing to break with the past, and no Pope before this one wanted to use that name, even if S.Francesco remains one of the most important figures in all the Church history...

Bergoglio was quite an "outsider"... according to last days newspaper here, the most probable names were the Italian cardinal Scola or one of the three North Americans (one US and two Canadians if i'm not wrong).
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Post by: Helen J on 14 March 2013, 08:48:36
I suspect (don't know for sure) that he may have taken the name in honour of the Jesuit saint Francis Xavier, rather than 'my' St Francis, given that he's a Jesuit.  To my ears, I have to confess, it sounds a bit odd, being so accustomed to 'my' Francis not wanting to have status or power ....  I'm sure I'll get used to it though, and it's a significant move to have a Pope from outside Europe.
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Post by: Janet Jaguar on 14 March 2013, 09:51:04
...
The name Francesco has remained tied to the figure of a radical reformer, willing to break with the past, and no Pope before this one wanted to use that name, even if S.Francesco remains one of the most important figures in all the Church history...

Bergoglio was quite an "outsider"... according to last days newspaper here, the most probable names were the Italian cardinal Scola or one of the three North Americans (one US and two Canadians if i'm not wrong).

On this side of the pond, Scola and cardinal Scherer from Brazil were on top, and the cardinals from New York and Boston on the bottom of the short list as long shots.  After the fact, they acknowledged Bergoglio had been a front runner at the previous conclave, but had asked to be eliminated from the vote.  That combined with his age I think dropped him from everyone's thinking.  And the Jesuits are seen as a big power in the church frequently opposed to the pope, and therefore unlikely to be elected ever - the head of their order called "the black pope".  And wondering what that will do to that old power struggle.  (Just saying what's on the news, I'm born Lutheran, now Episcopalian, and know little.) 

There is much rejoicing everywhere that the Roman church finally after more than a millennium is looking out from Europe to the rest of the world, given Europe hasn't contained the majority of Catholics in a very long time.  And hope that someone in power may finally properly handle the world-wide scandals of child abuse that have appalled everyone outside Rome.  That has injured the Catholic Church immensely.
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Post by: Caro on 15 March 2013, 03:47:07
Hello OW.
Today, archaeology: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-21784141
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Post by: Janet Jaguar on 15 March 2013, 10:16:34
That also sounds exciting.  New things found constantly.
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Post by: Pommy Stuart on 15 March 2013, 16:51:39
Le' Fha'ile Pa'draig Sona Duit

and

a thabhairt dom mar an gce'anna leis an fear ar an urla'r.

The accented a and e did not copy so I used a' and e'
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Post by: AvastMH on 15 March 2013, 18:58:57
I thought you didn't speak garlick?  ;) :D ::)
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Post by: Pommy Stuart on 15 March 2013, 19:25:19
I still don't know if I do.  :-[
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Post by: jil on 16 March 2013, 08:50:14
Anyone into restoring old boats might find this of interest - http://hsl2552.co.uk/the_type_3.html

A WWII Air Sea Rescue Launch that's been recovered from the bottom of a canal near Preston earlier this year as part of someone's plan to retire to a large wooden boat and take her round the world.
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Post by: Pommy Stuart on 16 March 2013, 17:39:10
Does anybody know if any of the PII or PIII weather data has been analyzed yet?
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Post by: Janet Jaguar on 16 March 2013, 17:49:38
Phase III, not even close, except maybe the Rodgers which is guaranteed complete.  Each ship won't be touched until they are sure no more logs are coming.  (The poor Rodgers of course made that completion very certain.)

Phase II, all of it has been analysed and given to 4 different global databases to use.  Our work will never be lost in someone's dark closet. ;)
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Post by: Randi on 16 March 2013, 18:10:12
Does anybody know if any of the PII or PIII weather data has been analyzed yet?

See http://forum.oldweather.org/index.php?topic=3620.msg62767#msg62767
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Post by: Pommy Stuart on 16 March 2013, 18:47:14
Thanks Randi.
The boards getting that big now but with a bit of logic I should have been able to find that, (but it is not a logic day today).  :-[
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Post by: Janet Jaguar on 16 March 2013, 20:53:12
I remembered it was there - which is why I was so certain our analyzed data had gone out - but was just too lazy to search.  Thanks, Randi.
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Post by: Pommy Stuart on 17 March 2013, 00:30:15
Sorry Janet, thanks to you also.
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Post by: Randi on 17 March 2013, 02:40:37
 ;D :-*
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Post by: Caro on 17 March 2013, 03:58:09
Morning OW.

La Fheile Padraig sona daoibh!  :D
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Post by: AvastMH on 17 March 2013, 05:26:25

oh yes - St Patrick's Day!  Google is very funny!  Top o' the mornin' to you ...   ;D
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Post by: Helen J on 17 March 2013, 06:03:55
Good morning OW - snowing this morning here in Oxfordshire.  The weather continuing its strange ways this year ....  ???
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Post by: Randi on 17 March 2013, 07:03:53
Cold, rainy, and windy - a nice day to be indoors ;)
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Post by: Craig on 17 March 2013, 07:58:24
Back to winter weather here. Its -16 C now with rising temperatures and snow and flurries forecast for the next few days. Getting off the Jeannette hasn't warmed things up noticably  ;D

Saint Patrick would not have liked Canada.
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Post by: Janet Jaguar on 17 March 2013, 11:12:25
Cold, overcast and dry here.  Not particularly pretty, not difficult.

Happy St. Pat's to all from Chicago, where everyone is Irish today and the river runs green. ;D


(http://i.huffpost.com/gadgets/slideshows/286698/slide_286698_2228845_free.jpg?1363452463572)
Plumbers' Union boat, mixing in the orange dye.

(http://i.huffpost.com/gadgets/slideshows/286698/slide_286698_2228849_free.jpg?1363452474221)
Final results of said mixing.
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Post by: Thursday Next on 17 March 2013, 11:26:45
Apparently crowd-sourcing is nothing new - there was an interesting piece on Radio 4 on Friday night from Professor Lisa Jardine about comets and 17th century crowd-sourcing.  The transcript is now on the BBC website:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-21802843
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Post by: Janet Jaguar on 17 March 2013, 12:54:33
It's nice to be into something with deep roots. 8)
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Post by: jil on 17 March 2013, 13:18:16
Ye Comet Zoo?  ;)

Thanks for mentioning that. I usually listen to the repeat of A Point of View on a Sunday, but missed it this morning.
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Post by: AvastMH on 17 March 2013, 14:33:58
The Antiques Roadshow (BBC1), showing now, is coming from Chatham Docks this week - Fiona Bruce 50ft up the mast and all! Hope some of you can see it.  ;D
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Post by: jil on 17 March 2013, 15:17:11
Yes! And just had a log from SS Great Eastern - Captain's rather than navigational though and only saw one page  :'( .
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Post by: AvastMH on 17 March 2013, 17:33:12
do you think we could get the rest of it??  ;) ;) ;D ;D
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Post by: Caro on 18 March 2013, 15:33:42
Our new GEOGRAPHICAL HELP board is just amazing.
Many thanks to Randi, Matteo and Joan for getting all that information in order.
Gold stars all round.

(http://www.nonstopgifs.com/animated-gifs/3d/3d-animated-gif-007.gif) (http://www.nonstopgifs.com)(http://www.nonstopgifs.com/animated-gifs/3d/3d-animated-gif-007.gif) (http://www.nonstopgifs.com)(http://www.nonstopgifs.com/animated-gifs/3d/3d-animated-gif-007.gif) (http://www.nonstopgifs.com)
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Post by: Randi on 19 March 2013, 08:03:45
Curiosity breaks rock to reveal dazzling white interior (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-21340279)
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Post by: Maikel on 20 March 2013, 06:55:30
Happy new SPRING everyone  :D

Not that you can tell spring has begun, because it has been snowing all morning and the weather forecast for the coming week shows temperatures around freezing point during the day. :(
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Post by: Dean on 20 March 2013, 07:12:52
Spring has sprung, the grass is riz.  I wonder where the flowers is??!! ::) ::)


Half inch of new snow and 24?F (-4?C) in beautiful Niagara Falls New York! :P
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Post by: Janet Jaguar on 20 March 2013, 07:19:27
(https://www.t-mobilepictures.com/myalbum/thumbnail/photo57/a2/6c/6a0dc0b04165__1363782104000.gif?tw=0&th=720&s=true&rs=false)


And even tho the temps are 15F (-6C) this morning, tonight will be shorter the tomorrow's day and Spring will come!!  (Eventually.)
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Post by: Caro on 20 March 2013, 12:06:39
Hello OW.

A happy vernal/autumnal equinox to you all.  :))
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Post by: szukacz on 20 March 2013, 15:27:26
And I can only thank you very much Scandinavia ;)
The weekend-21C! sic! brrrrrrr
They would just be wrong.
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Post by: Thursday Next on 21 March 2013, 08:46:22
Cold,wet & windy here in Devon today - who said Spring had Sprung?!  >:(
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Post by: Janet Jaguar on 21 March 2013, 12:37:45
Cold,wet & windy here in Devon today - who said Spring had Sprung?!  >:(

Not me.  Chicago is still freezing, with a threat of Snow on Sunday.  At least the day is pretty with bright blue skies.
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Post by: jil on 22 March 2013, 10:30:30
Spring  ??? - sq all day here. Doing better than a lot of the UK though, at least it's not sticking.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-21885817
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Post by: AvastMH on 22 March 2013, 13:05:41
Apparently we're on for the coldest March in 50 years - and British Summer Time starts officially on the Monday after next. This day last year we were coping with 21deg.C.
Brrrrr!  ::)
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Post by: Craig on 22 March 2013, 13:30:09
I think Szukacz has us all beat with -21 C. It's warming up nicely here.
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Post by: AvastMH on 22 March 2013, 13:35:15
I think Szukacz has us all beat with -21 C. It's warming up nicely here.

Stay cosy Szukacz!  :-*
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Post by: Janet Jaguar on 22 March 2013, 13:57:49
And I can only thank you very much Scandinavia ;)
The weekend-21C! sic! brrrrrrr
They would just be wrong.

That is not late winter, that is the depths of winter.  Shiver!!
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Post by: Dean on 22 March 2013, 23:20:17
2 1/2 " (6 cm) snow and 18?F (-8?C) Friday morning. BTW - I just saw my first robin of the spring - FROZEN TO THE FENCE POST!!!!!!!!!! :P
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Post by: Caro on 23 March 2013, 02:47:12
Hello OW.
Snow falling here too. Enough!
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Post by: AvastMH on 23 March 2013, 06:05:43
Yep -snow in Oxford too...just a sprinkling.  :( :(
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Post by: studentforever on 23 March 2013, 06:20:29
Just a sprinkling here too but down on the coast they are having problems with electricity supplies - Arran & Bute both lost theirs.  Yesterdy the wind chill was really bad, not quite so fierce today.
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Post by: Craig on 23 March 2013, 09:45:58
Here, we got a dusting  :D
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Post by: szukacz on 23 March 2013, 13:48:33
I'm watching the movie "Global Weirding" on the BBC and here?!
Documents shown in the film, strikingly similar to a log-book.
The documents are dated to the seventeenth century (about 1683-1684) and related to the Little Ice Age, and sunspots.
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Post by: szukacz on 23 March 2013, 14:46:57
Dad lend me his account for a while so I will simply specify my problem:

While reading and watching the Game of Thrones there appeared word 'ale' that wasn't translated into Polish equivalent of beer. I always thought that ale is Middle Age beer. Are translators right?

My dad said that you have enormous knowlegde of history and you'll be capable of answering to my question so I'll look forward to it.

Thank you in advance.

~Kalina
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Post by: AvastMH on 23 March 2013, 15:20:52
Dear Kalina,
Welcome to the forum! Well your dad is almost right. There's probably one or two things we don't know... ;D
Ale is a very old form of beer typical to Britain. It is malted, brewed grains of wheat or barley.  In early days it was a way of producing a drink that was not as strong as the drinks we make today - but the alcohol made the water safer to drink.
It sometimes had useful health giving herbs added to it.  Around the 11th century, I think in Germany, people started to add hops to the brew. Hops are anti-bacterial, but don't kill off the yeast that is part of making the alcohol. They add a bitter flavour which you do not find in Ale. They also help the beer to last longer and so beer, instead of ale, became the common drink.
In early days the use of hops was criticized because it was thought that it made people more likely to become bad tempered when drunk!
You can still buy hop-free ales, especially during winter when the beer brew is thicker.

I'm sure there will be other replies more knowledgeable than mine.

Here's a wiki article on hops: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hops
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Post by: szukacz on 23 March 2013, 15:45:04
Thank you.

I'm suprised now that translators left it as it was some special kind of beer. In every book, game ect. related to Middle Ages that I have it usually has been translated as 'weak beer' (there is in Polish more precise name for it, but it has that meaning) and nobody don't even think of modern beer.
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Post by: Caro on 23 March 2013, 15:52:17
Pleased to meet you, Kalina. 
I think that in the Middle Ages ale was known as 'small beer'.
Everybody drank it, including children.


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Post by: szukacz on 23 March 2013, 16:11:38
Pleased to meet you too.
So it's 'small' not 'weak' - that's something worth of keeping it in mind. I knew that children drank ale and it wasn't strong beverage. It seems that translator hadn't sufficient knowlegde and decided to left it as it was.
You fully satisfied my curiosity. Thank you.  :)
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Post by: Janet Jaguar on 23 March 2013, 18:26:15
You are welcome, Kalina.  We may not always be experts but we enjoy answering (and asking!) questions.  :)
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Post by: Dean on 23 March 2013, 18:51:22
Welcome to our group Kalina! We enjoy helping others (and ourselves) understand our World.

There was/is something also called 'near beer'  brewed with less than the 'standard' alcohol content. 'Regular' beer is likely about 5% alcohol by Volume while this was 3.2%. When I was in university a long time ago this was all that was available in some states.

Check this reference for more information:   http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Low-alcohol_beer
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Post by: Pommy Stuart on 23 March 2013, 20:53:17
Hi Kalina.
Is your name correct as it came through with a ~ in front of it. (~ sometimes prints when a post has letters it cannot display)
We would hate to continue calling you the wrong name.
Stuart.

Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Caro on 24 March 2013, 03:59:30
Morning all.
Another frozen day in the UK.
Has anybody in the northern hemisphere seen the sun lately?  ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: studentforever on 24 March 2013, 05:36:28
Yes, we've got a nice bright morning - cold with a vicious windchill but bright. The snow is scarcely thawing even when the sun comes right out.
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Post by: Steeleye on 24 March 2013, 06:56:16
I'm embarrassed to admit that it is rather pleasant in the Antipodes at the moment - mid-20s, light winds, clear and mainly cloudless, not even any bushfires or floods to disturb the tranquility. Certainly no windchill.

Hang in there shipmates, there has to be a spring around the corner sometime soon.

 :-[
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Post by: Janet Jaguar on 24 March 2013, 08:58:12
Cold and overcast here in Chicago after three days even colder with bright sun.  A big winter storm is going through downstate Illinois, making us Chicagoans grateful that storm didn't twist a bit north.
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Post by: AvastMH on 24 March 2013, 09:24:57
I'm embarrassed to admit that it is rather pleasant in the Antipodes at the moment - mid-20s, light winds, clear and mainly cloudless, not even any bushfires or floods to disturb the tranquility. Certainly no windchill.

Hang in there shipmates, there has to be a spring around the corner sometime soon.

 :-[

Well - you're right - the sun will expand into a red giant in about 5 billion years - so a bit of patience is not much of an ask.... ;D ;D ;D
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Post by: Craig on 24 March 2013, 10:31:47
that's certainly worth waiting to see.  ;D
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Post by: Steeleye on 24 March 2013, 15:27:38
I'm embarrassed to admit that it is rather pleasant in the Antipodes at the moment - mid-20s, light winds, clear and mainly cloudless, not even any bushfires or floods to disturb the tranquility. Certainly no windchill.

Hang in there shipmates, there has to be a spring around the corner sometime soon.

 :-[

Well - you're right - the sun will expand into a red giant in about 5 billion years - so a bit of patience is not much of an ask.... ;D ;D ;D



We had better have the transcribing and editing finished before then, because the red giant stage is going to play havoc with our wireless internet connections.
 ???
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Craig on 24 March 2013, 15:43:07
Not to mention our other connections.  ;D
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Post by: Steeleye on 24 March 2013, 17:33:09
Some people just can't resist temptation:
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-03-24/giant-dinosaur-statue-stolen/4590922 (http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-03-24/giant-dinosaur-statue-stolen/4590922)

 :'(
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Post by: Janet Jaguar on 24 March 2013, 18:20:38
Where would you possibly put a 10-foot long sculpture so that you could enjoy it while it is hidden from that neighbors?  Maybe they should check the backyards of any college groups of young men who like to get drunk. :)
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Post by: Steeleye on 24 March 2013, 20:20:18
Where would you possibly put a 10-foot long sculpture so that you could enjoy it while it is hidden from that neighbors?  Maybe they should check the backyards of any college groups of young men who like to get drunk. :)

Talk about sexist, Janet!  Are you telling me that groups of young college women don't get blotto also?  Young men are far more responsible than that!

 :P

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Post by: Janet Jaguar on 24 March 2013, 21:11:22
College women get equally stupid and drunk, but I can't see them wanting to haul off a 10-foot long very heavy monster.  That particular prank I do believe is sex-linked.
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Post by: Caro on 25 March 2013, 03:02:54
Good morning, in a gender-neutral kind of way.  ;D
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Post by: AvastMH on 25 March 2013, 03:11:13
Some people just can't resist temptation:
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-03-24/giant-dinosaur-statue-stolen/4590922 (http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-03-24/giant-dinosaur-statue-stolen/4590922)

 :'(
There were times when I was trying to get my godchildren to bed when I'd have given my eye teeth to have had one of these to pull out of the closet...  ;D :-X
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Steeleye on 25 March 2013, 03:21:28
There are closets, and there are CLOSETS ...

 :o
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Post by: Steeleye on 25 March 2013, 03:27:38
OK, Janet ... you were right and I was wrong (sigh):
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-03-25/stolen-dinosaur-discovered/4593428 (http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-03-25/stolen-dinosaur-discovered/4593428)

I suppose a dinosaur is a sort of lizard, and lizards can drop their tails when under attack. He must have had fun getting it through the door.

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Post by: Hanibal94 on 25 March 2013, 04:20:57
Quite an interesting story.

For some odd reason, when I clicked on that link, I got a Chrome popup saying "This page is in Russian. Would you like a translation?" 
 ??? ??? ???
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Steeleye on 25 March 2013, 05:00:43
How on Earth did you manage that ? ! Perhaps the link only works in the Southern Hemisphere.
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Post by: Janet Jaguar on 25 March 2013, 06:02:07
It works fine in Aussie English when clicked in Chicago.  But I've had a number of links show up in various languages, I suppose it depends on the transmission route.
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Post by: Randi on 25 March 2013, 06:08:39
Firefox came up in English.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Hanibal94 on 25 March 2013, 08:10:15
How on Earth did you manage that ? ! Perhaps the link only works in the Southern Hemisphere.

No, the page came up fine, but Google's page translation thingy apparently had a brain fart (CPU fart?).
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Kathy on 25 March 2013, 11:32:16
Hi all -

About 5 inches of snow here today - the trees look like they have cotton candy on them -

Ahem - it is not just drunk college boys who do that sort of thing - I could tell you a story about a dead alligator, beer, and a local police force  ::)  ;D (from my high school days)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 25 March 2013, 11:53:01
Hi all -

About 5 inches of snow here today - the trees look like they have cotton candy on them -

Ahem - it is not just drunk college boys who do that sort of thing - I could tell you a story about a dead alligator, beer, and a local police force  ::)  ;D (from my high school days)

I did say college girls get just as stupid and drunk as anyone of the opposite sex, and while high schoolers are hopefully sober, the stupidity index seems to go up.  (Based on personal memories here.  :-[ )  I just said girls are less likely to team up to install a 10 foot very heavy monster in their home.  (Alligators, dead, are much easier to carry - I wouldn't bet on uninvolvement in that.  The issue is how hard they would have to work to carry the thing.) ::)
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Post by: Kathy on 25 March 2013, 12:02:19
Well, we had some um, altered, male colleagues with us to handle that part - the, a, specimen was at least 10 feet long, I'm not sure how much it weighed.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 25 March 2013, 12:55:54
Flirting is a wondrous thing - it can get all kinds of stuff, especially when the males involved got to participate in all the fun. :)
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Post by: AvastMH on 25 March 2013, 19:00:49
Well, we had some um, altered, male colleagues with us to handle that part - the, a, specimen was at least 10 feet long, I'm not sure how much it weighed.

Well -I'm intrigued even if no-one else is....what ever became of the alligator Kathy? ;D
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Post by: Randi on 26 March 2013, 06:04:11
I'm intrigued too, but I was afraid to ask ;D
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Post by: Maikel on 26 March 2013, 06:33:51
Because it was a girl thing, I just assumed they tried to turn it into handbags. ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Dean on 26 March 2013, 07:17:51
Or shoes!! ;)

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Post by: Janet Jaguar on 26 March 2013, 11:47:38
And where did you carry it off too?  Did some teenager actually have parents that allowed it in their garage or yard? :D
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Kathy on 26 March 2013, 15:36:00
Ok, here is the story of the beer, the dead alligator and the police.  I was born in Dallas, but I grew up in a small town in the middle of Louisiana - which had a bayou on one side of it, with yes, alligators and cottonmouths, the two primary reasons I do not know how to water ski and why I'm not a big fan of swimming in anything but a pool.  This town was very small - there were only about 500 students in the high school in total.  We had no movie theater, no mall, no McDonald's, no nothing to do, but cruise around town, mainly drinking Miller ponies (a small bottle of beer).  One night, while cruising with some of my more adventurous buddies, a second group showed up with what had to be a 10 foot dead alligator draped across the hood of their car.  As a now larger group, we consumed several ponies and discussed the situation.  After the consumption of a few more ponies, it was decided that we should drive the alligator into the middle of town, drop it off in front of the police station, and then, well, see what would happen.  The alligator was not freshly dead, and thus was quite aromatic, so we poured some beer and then some Brut cologne on it to improve the air quality.  As an aside, let me just state that neither beer, nor cologne actually helped.  We now had a dead alligator that reeked of Miller beer, Brut cologne and general decay.  We (and by we, I mean the guys in the group, who had consumed many more ponies than I) draped the alligator over the hood of one of the cars and drove off into the center of town.  To this very day, I don't know why no one who drove past us seemed to notice this alligator on the car - the car was light colored and an alligator is not...one of life's mysteries.  Anyway, we drove to the police station in town; honked the horn; slammed on the brakes so the alligator fell off; and then, exercising the better part of valor, squealed off in a cloud of burnt tire.  Curious to see what was transpiring in front of the police station, we circled back and there, with guns drawn, pointed at this dead alligator, were all the officers in the station (needless to say, there were only 4 or 5).  We then drove off, back into the night from whence we came.  I'm not sure what happened to the alligator - I heard someone took it from the police station and put it in the mayor's front yard, but I have no proof of this.  Some time ago, I began confessing my various misdeeds and misadventures to my mother.  She gasped when I told her this story, for apparently, there had been a lengthy front page article in the local weekly newspaper about this incident - where did the alligator come from?  How did it get into the middle of town?  Why did it smell of Miller beer and Brut cologne?  I never saw the article, but I wish I had.

There you have it - and I promise you, this is the way it happened.

Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Randi on 26 March 2013, 16:28:25
 ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Helen J on 26 March 2013, 16:33:52
Well, living in Louisana certainly enables more dramatic bad behaviour than, say, Edinburgh, where dead alligators (or live ones for that matter) were singularly lacking.  Great story, Kathy ....  :D :D
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 26 March 2013, 17:09:33
What an interesting and fun crowd of kids  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Craig on 26 March 2013, 18:05:56
I am surprised that Randi or Janet haven't found a link to the newspaper story yet  ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 26 March 2013, 18:17:33
It's too modern, all the archives I know of that are free cut off at 1923 - and Kathy's generation weren't even dreamed of at that point. ::)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Randi on 26 March 2013, 18:28:16
and she didn't specify the town...
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: AvastMH on 26 March 2013, 18:48:12
Cracking hoot Kathy...I had a real good laugh at that! The mental picture of that alligator flying off the bonnet just outside the copshop is brilliant. A real cracker ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Caro on 27 March 2013, 02:44:14
Good morning all.
Great story Kathy. I'm surprised you haven't turned it into a narrative poem yet.  ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: jil on 27 March 2013, 03:28:30
Kathy, excellent tale!

A nice momento for anyone who's been on a ship sailing into Glasgow? - Ailsa Criag for sale (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-21878099)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: szukacz on 27 March 2013, 06:42:12
I buy only ?1.5m.
As already buy, I invite you to a party!
And what an opportunity that only take discount :)  ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 27 March 2013, 15:42:02
OK Kalina, I will go halfs in it with you.
You put in the 1.5 Million and I will put in the 1.0 Million discount.
 ;D ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: szukacz on 27 March 2013, 17:16:51
Sorry for the confusion :)
Daughter received a reply and the account is now back to me :)

         I\
         I\
         I\
\..SzukacZ../
ps. And the million share in half  ;D ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Craig on 28 March 2013, 12:17:48
I just read this article about a Canadian old weather project started by a retired climatologist from Environment Canada. http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/national/predicting-future-climate-change-may-lie-in-the-past/article10133670/?cmpid=rss1

Here is the link to their project site: https://sites.google.com/site/historicalclimatedata/canadian-historical-data-typing-project

I am tempted to help them but I have too much to keep me busy with our OW project. They have some historial records at early as the 1700s. It makes you wonder what exists in Europe if they can find so much in Canada.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 28 March 2013, 12:23:31
Sorry for the confusion :)
Daughter received a reply and the account is now back to me :)

         I\
         I\
         I\
\..SzukacZ../
ps. And the million share in half  ;D ;)

Kalina was a lovely person to talk to, thanks for letting us meet her.  :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Dean on 28 March 2013, 18:21:13
Sorry for the confusion :)
Daughter received a reply and the account is now back to me :)

         I\
         I\
         I\
\..SzukacZ../
ps. And the million share in half  ;D ;)

Yes! and we will be here to help should she have further questions for us!! ;D

Kalina was a lovely person to talk to, thanks for letting us meet her.  :)

Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Kathy on 29 March 2013, 14:24:00
 :'( :'( :'(

My laptop blew up!

The Foxglove file that I have been editing - gone!

 :'( :'( :'(

(Other stuff too, but that one really stings!)

No BOINC right now -
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: AvastMH on 29 March 2013, 14:26:46
oh Kathy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(
Big Hugs........ you poor thing!  Is there no hope at all?
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Thursday Next on 29 March 2013, 14:27:46
Oh Kathy, that's a real pain to have lost so much work!  My heartfelt sympathies!
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: jil on 29 March 2013, 14:32:26
Oh No!!
Off to back up my files!
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 29 March 2013, 14:36:31
Total sympathy from me!!!  I'm doing a back up immediately!!!!
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 29 March 2013, 14:38:08
:'( :'( :'(

My laptop blew up!

The Foxglove file that I have been editing - gone!

 :'( :'( :'(

(Other stuff too, but that one really stings!)

No BOINC right now -

Chin up old girl.
There still may be hope if it is not your Hard drive that has failed.
A decent computer shop should be able to recover your data to your new machine (or at least the OW files if someone can tell us which they are).

Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Craig on 29 March 2013, 14:53:05
My sympathies too, Kathy.  :(

It happened to me a couple of years ago. Once the initial shock was over I got a terabyte external drive and automatic incremental back-up software. I still had many of my files on  a laptop but not the ones I wanted the most.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Randi on 29 March 2013, 15:04:53
 :-* :-* :-* :-* :-*

About time I make a backup too!
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Kathy on 29 March 2013, 15:16:11
Thanks for the sympathy - I have a backup device for our desk top, but hadn't really given it any thought for my laptop - my baby is now in Kentucky, hopefully having the files pulled from the hard drive.  I don't know if it can be repaired or not yet.

 :'( :'( :'(
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Dean on 29 March 2013, 15:21:53
Oh,my! Hope no one was hurt! (Except your pride?!) :'(

Computers are wonderful - when they work - but they sure leave a mess when they don't!!

Please let us know if we can help :-*
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: szukacz on 29 March 2013, 15:44:20
Pity  :-\
Maybe the hard drive survived?  :o
You have to go to the doctor.!  ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Helen J on 29 March 2013, 16:11:04
Aaargh!  It's one of the most heart sinking things to happen - you have my sympathy.  Having had it happen to me, I now have an external back up hard drive, set to do a backup every day.  And for my editing files, I do a copy on a memory stick as well, every time I've done some work.  Belt and braces, that's me!

Hope your files are rescued OK, and maybe the laptop will take its cue from Easter and rise from the dead too!
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Caro on 30 March 2013, 03:29:35
Good morning OW.
I hope your files can be recovered, Kathy.  :-*
I keep a copy of my editing files in online storage.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Thursday Next on 30 March 2013, 14:16:47
Happy Easter everyone!
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 30 March 2013, 15:15:40
 ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 30 March 2013, 15:20:47
Happy Easter everyone!

And to you also Su.
May the Irish Santa bring you many Merry Easter Bunnys.  :o
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 30 March 2013, 16:16:09
(https://www.t-mobilepictures.com/myalbum/thumbnail/photo14/3e/cb/c857a6b4bfba__1303647636000.jpg?tw=0&th=720&s=true&rs=false)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: lollia paolina on 31 March 2013, 02:23:37
Wishing you a very Happy Easter

Buona Pasqua

:)

Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Caro on 31 March 2013, 03:33:56
Morning all.
Go easy on the chocs, OK?  ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Randi on 31 March 2013, 03:59:44
Happy Easter!
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: propriome on 31 March 2013, 06:06:28
Happy Easter (and Buona Pasqua ;) ) to everyone!
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Helen J on 31 March 2013, 07:53:35
HAPPY EASTER EVERYONE!

The chocs are fine as long as you keep one hand free for transcribing ....   :D
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Randi on 31 March 2013, 08:25:50
That's what I call organized! ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Craig on 31 March 2013, 08:40:19
Champagne sounds good. Happy Easter everybody.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Kathy on 31 March 2013, 09:28:23
Caro -
I know you said something, but I don't understand what you said -   :o
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: szukacz on 31 March 2013, 12:01:16
So yes, Happy ...  ;D
Within 12 hours dropped 22 cm  ::) of snow and the snow falls harder  :-\
I'm going to take pictures
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 31 March 2013, 12:16:09
szukacz, that happens sometimes when Easter is in March.  When I was a child, Dad helped us build a snowman that weekend, stuck 2 short branches into the top of its head and packed snow around them making is a snowbunny.  Fun and a good memory.

Doesn't change the fact that seeing Spring come in that day would have been better.  ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: AvastMH on 31 March 2013, 12:42:12
Happy Easter to all!   :-*

(http://img845.imageshack.us/img845/3241/pasqueflowerpetemorris3.jpg)

Pasque flowers - though it is still too cold for them here as we continue the coldest March on record...last day of it though!  And today we swapped to British Summer Time ( ::) ::) ::)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: szukacz on 31 March 2013, 12:44:30
 ;D
This is not a typical spring.
 8)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Kathy on 31 March 2013, 13:00:54
 :o :o
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Helen J on 31 March 2013, 13:14:51
Well, those pictures make the view from my window look quite springlike, though it doesn't feel like it outside!
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Caro on 31 March 2013, 13:30:01
Please don't send that over this way, szukacz.  ;)
 
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Thursday Next on 31 March 2013, 14:17:25
Caro -
I know you said something, but I don't understand what you said -   :o

Me too - my brain's giving me a "failed to compute" message on that one!
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 31 March 2013, 14:36:06
I most definitely want to keep Chicago's bright balmy spring-like feel.  Call me selfish.  (11C bc light breeze; no buds or flowers yet, this is just the start of breaking winter's hold.)

For szukacz:
(http://weather.thefuntimesguide.com/images/blogs/snow-bunny-public-domain.JPG)

Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Caro on 31 March 2013, 14:45:22
Caro -
I know you said something, but I don't understand what you said -   :o

Me too - my brain's giving me a "failed to compute" message on that one!

I'm sorry, Su and Kathy. I will try to speak more plainly in future. Promise.  ;)

Nice bunny, Janet!
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: AvastMH on 31 March 2013, 14:56:21
Great to hear of everyone's Easter!

Makes the world a small and cosy place despite the weather we're all getting (how's autumn coming on you Ozzies?) ;) ;) ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Dean on 31 March 2013, 15:06:21
HAPPY EASTER EVERYONE!
<
All I need to know,
I learned from the Easter Bunny!
 Don't put all your eggs in one basket.
 Everyone needs a friend who is all ears.
There's no such thing as too much candy.
All work and no play can make you a basket case.
A cute tail attracts a lot of attention.
Everyone is entitled to a bad hare day.
Let happy thoughts multiply like rabbits.
Some body parts should be floppy.
Keep your paws off of other people's jelly beans.
Good things come in small, sugar-coated packages.
The grass is always greener in someone else's basket.
To show your true colors, you have to come out of the shell.
The best things in life are still sweet and gooey.
May the joy of the season fill your heart.
AND MAY GOD BLESS YOU!
Happy Easter!
<
;D ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Randi on 31 March 2013, 15:07:29
 ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Thursday Next on 31 March 2013, 15:10:30
Love the snowbunny!  ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 31 March 2013, 15:10:41
Downunder has just started to cool down.
No snow yet in my area, Tasmania could get some today.
Usually, we start getting cold around 'Anzac Day' 25th April, the winds and chill seem to come out for parade day.
8c - 21c forecast for this week.

Will you please post COLOUR pics in future, Black and white is so out.   ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: szukacz on 31 March 2013, 15:30:12
Thx JJ
Extraordinary, just nice so warm bunny  8)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Caro on 01 April 2013, 02:55:29
Hello OW.

Bizarre stories of our time: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-21991622
Please remember the date.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Randi on 01 April 2013, 03:10:28
http://encyclopedia.thefreedictionary.com/Spaghetti+tree
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Thursday Next on 01 April 2013, 14:18:21
Hello OW.

Bizarre stories of our time: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-21991622
Please remember the date.

But see "10 Stories that look like pranks but aren't"
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-21993582
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: szukacz on 01 April 2013, 15:36:09
http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTrX_VfyuiuOPvVHiXhsKBFqal2wsUMXxG2G374mh3pQ3SFwIis
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 01 April 2013, 16:21:07
 ;D for both of you
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: AvastMH on 01 April 2013, 23:00:14
http://encyclopedia.thefreedictionary.com/Spaghetti+tree
I saw that programme - it was brilliant!
 ;D ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Caro on 03 April 2013, 03:11:56
Good morning all. How's the weather?
Still chilly here.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Steeleye on 03 April 2013, 06:54:51
Good evening Caro,
It's a bit of a mixed bag down this way in the past couple of weeks. Autumn/Fall in Canberra can be wonderful - warm, still, blue skies and generally idyllic - but we've also had a few cool grey days thrown into the mix. But nobody's complaining, especially when we see what out northern colleagues are having to put up with

 8)!
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Kathy on 03 April 2013, 10:02:38
The cherry blossoms are delayed here because of the below normal temps - last year at this time,  temps were 10 degrees above average -

arggg...
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 03 April 2013, 10:25:46
The cherry blossoms are delayed here because of the below normal temps - last year at this time,  temps were 10 degrees above average -

arggg...

And this year we are balancing that to maintain averages.  This is why I dislike breaking records, even on the pleasant side.  :(

We are still freezing at night, this afternoon is supposed to thaw some.  Supposedly warmer (not warm) spring weather is to blow in tomorrow.  I hope.  :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Craig on 03 April 2013, 11:08:25
It's typical spring weather here in Quebec. It still goes below zero C at night, but this is good for the maple syrup producers. The snow is melting fast and daffodils are poking through now (a few tentative bystanders rather than a host of golden daffodils ;D).
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: szukacz on 03 April 2013, 11:47:37
Still snowing  >:(
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Kathy on 03 April 2013, 12:13:24
good grief!  :o
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Caro on 04 April 2013, 11:58:42
Snowing here too. :P Which season is this?
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 04 April 2013, 12:04:05
We are less cool today, in the 40s, warmer tomorrow, and sunny - very nice and pretty.  Hopefully some leaf buds and daffodils will risk this and start showing themselves.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Randi on 04 April 2013, 13:27:51
More rain ::)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Kathy on 04 April 2013, 13:30:03
We are supposed to be chili today and hot tamale  ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Randi on 04 April 2013, 13:38:45
 ::) ::)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Kathy on 04 April 2013, 13:46:45
 ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 04 April 2013, 13:50:05
(http://www.markmcgraw.com/knowzone/style_emoticons/default/groan.gif)   ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: AvastMH on 04 April 2013, 16:25:46
We are supposed to be chili today and hot tamale  ;D
(http://www.markmcgraw.com/knowzone/style_emoticons/default/groan.gif)   ;)
I'll second that Janet  ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Dean on 04 April 2013, 19:24:53
We are supposed to be chili today and hot tamale  ;D
(http://www.markmcgraw.com/knowzone/style_emoticons/default/groan.gif)   ;)
I'll second that Janet  ;D ;D ;D ;D

We call that a Mexican weather forecast!! ;D

I'll make summer start (or cause a BLIZZARD - I'm not sure which :P) I'm heading to the Lake Friday morning to take the tarps off the boat and start 'Preparing ship for Sea'  at the end of the month! ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 04 April 2013, 19:41:48
Keep hoping for luck - rain I'd like for the trees' sake.  But any blizzard you catch will pass thru here first, and I don't need that, any more than your boat does. 

Good sailing! :)

(http://www.animatedgif.net/nauticalboats/sailboat_e0.gif)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: AvastMH on 04 April 2013, 22:17:46
Janet! I looooooove your little boat...sooo much. It is very cute. :-*
(up a bit late tonight finishing paperwork for the museum  do.....sigh)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 04 April 2013, 22:38:15
Good luck at the museum - you are going to be magnificent!  :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Tegwen on 05 April 2013, 05:36:37
Janet! I looooooove your little boat...sooo much. It is very cute. :-*
(up a bit late tonight finishing paperwork for the museum  do.....sigh)

Best of luck Joan. Do let us know how you get on.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: jil on 05 April 2013, 05:55:10
Good luck Joan and enjoy it!
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Randi on 05 April 2013, 06:54:44
Have fun Joan!
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Craig on 05 April 2013, 07:02:21
Break a mast, Joan!
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: propriome on 05 April 2013, 07:55:00
Good luck Joan and have fun!  :) :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: AvastMH on 05 April 2013, 08:58:23
Thanks folks, 8) ;D
It's at 1pm tomorrow...just enough time for me to chew my nails to a frazzle....I'll be finished there about 4/5ish BST so I'll let you know how it goes then.
Cheers  :-*
J
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Caro on 05 April 2013, 09:24:02
Hello OW.
Good luck tomorrow Joan. You will be a star. :D
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Helen J on 05 April 2013, 12:59:59
Good luck Joan - I'm sure it will go brilliantly!
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Craig on 05 April 2013, 13:20:55
Has anyone received an e-mail about participating in an interview? I am hoping it's not a phishing message. It seems strange to me that they would offer $50. I  am also suspicous because they didn't ask for any ID when I went to their site for the consent form. It was foolish of my to click before checking but because Alexandra mentioned she would be contacting people I had my guard down.

Quote
Dear Zooniverse volunteer,

On behalf of the Zooniverse, I want to thank you for contributing to our research, and to invite you to make a little money by participating in a project of our own.

Zooniverse, in partnership with the Adler Planetarium, is undertaking a research study of how volunteers' views of science are influenced by their participation in the various Zoos. You have been selected for this invitation based on your level of activity in Zooniverse. What you have to say on this subject will be very helpful to us for understanding and improving Zooniverse for volunteers like you.

We would like to interview you about your experiences with the Zooniverse. The interview should take between 45 and 60 minutes, and will be conducted through Skype. Any information you provide will be kept confidential, and will only be publicly connected to you if we explicitly ask you and you agree to it. If you choose to participate, you will receive a US$50 gift certificate to Amazon.com.

To participate in this study, please go to http://cdi.zooniverse.org/?id=798981 to read the official consent statement and to register your consent to be interviewed. Once you have done so, we will contact you by e-mail to arrange a time for the interview and to give you instructions on how to access our Skype profile.

Thank you again for contributing to Zooniverse. We hope you will consider contributing to this study as well.

Sincerely,


Ryan J. Cook, PhD
Citizen Science Learning Researcher
Adler Planetarium
1300 South Lake Shore Drive
Chicago IL 60605
312-542-2423 ofc
rcook@adlerplanetarium.org
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Helen J on 05 April 2013, 13:36:52
Yes I got it.  As they didn't ask for anything in terms of passwords or whatever, I thought it was OK - I hope I'm right!
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 05 April 2013, 13:54:40
It sounds right to me, as long as they don't ask for any private ID info.  For sure, Ryan Cook is indeed connected to Adler.  I copied/pasted the first 3 lines of his signature (Ryan J. Cook, PhD Citizen Science Learning Researcher Adler Planetarium) into Bing Search and eventually found this bio:
http://adlerplanetarium.academia.edu/RyanCook

Do you want me to check with Philip to be sure? 
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Thursday Next on 05 April 2013, 14:04:22
Good luck for tomorrow, Joan!  I am sure you will be brilliant!
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Helen J on 05 April 2013, 14:05:20
It sounds OK, but it would be good to have confirmation - others may be wondering too.  It's a shame we have to be so suspicious these days .... ::)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Thursday Next on 05 April 2013, 14:10:10
I had the email too.  Virgin Media didn't flag it as suspicious and they usually seem to be pretty effective at identifying phishing emails.  (Although as I don't have Skype I won't be taking part in the research even if it is OK.)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Craig on 05 April 2013, 14:15:13
It might be good to check with someone, Janet. Everything looks credible except how do they connect our consent form to our e-mail address? When you go to their site you click yes in three boxes and that's all. I don't know of any way they can match this to my e-mail address or any other information about me. I replied to the e-mail message early this morning and there is no response yet. I'll let you know if I get a response. Until we get a confirmation I would recommend that nobody else click on the link.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Kathy on 05 April 2013, 14:21:32
I think it is from the folks who are studying us - remember the survey?  One of the lead investigators posted a message here on the Forum that they would be contacting folks who responded to the survey for followup interviews.  With regard to the $50 Amazon gift card, at least here in the States, it is customary for study participants to receive some sort of compensation.

Of course, I freely admit I could be completely wrong about this -
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Craig on 05 April 2013, 14:35:28
I thought it might be related to Alexandra's survey but why would she send out a general message and why wasn't her name on the e-mail? And why didn't she contact us by a personal message.


Just to say that I have started to send out invitations for follow-up interviews.  I have used email where this has been enabled, but mostly I am corresponding via the forum - so if you don't log in very frequently, please check your personal message inbox.

And thank you to those people who have already responded.  We're looking forward to talking to you!

Alexandra

I'm even more suspicous now.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Kathy on 05 April 2013, 14:45:24
Hi all -

I actually called Ryan Cook and spoke to him about this - the research project is completely legit - he said Arfon is involved in this one also.  Mr. Cook thought it "fascinating" that we were suspicious  ;D

Anyway, hopefully this will help - and I hope Arfon jumps in and adds his confirmation -
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Arfon on 05 April 2013, 14:46:05
Hi all, I can assure you this is genuine. These emails are coming from team@zooniverse.org and are from my colleague Dr Ryan Cook.

Please contact me directly at arfon@zooniverse.org if you have any concerns.

Cheers
Arfon
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Helen J on 05 April 2013, 15:00:36
Thanks for the reassurances - I'm glad to have my gut feeling that this was legit confirmed! 
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Craig on 05 April 2013, 15:07:06
Well, sorry to be so suspicious but one can't be too careful these days. I get spam and phishing messages daily. If the message had had something other than just my e-mail address, say my username, I would have been reassured.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Kathy on 05 April 2013, 15:09:52
I know - I get maybe 30 emails a day and simply delete 20 of them out of hand - I have to admit though, I do enjoy reading the ones, sometimes, that offer me large sums of money because I am such a good person and/or related to the bequestor.  ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Craig on 05 April 2013, 15:14:12
I think you definitely deserve these messages, Kathy  ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Kathy on 05 April 2013, 15:18:09
 ;D ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Kathy on 05 April 2013, 15:21:51
In a bit of a serendipitous occurrence, I'm currently processing the metadata for Coast Guard documents regarding invasive species in the Great Lakes, as well as one about cruise ships in Alaska - work and addiction intersecting!  ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Randi on 05 April 2013, 15:32:39
 8) 8) 8)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Dean on 05 April 2013, 16:10:48

I'll make summer start (or cause a BLIZZARD - I'm not sure which :P) I'm heading to the Lake Friday morning to take the tarps off the boat and start 'Preparing ship for Sea'  at the end of the month! ;)

Well, No blizzard YET and as I said 'Preparing Ship for Sea.' ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 05 April 2013, 16:12:08
Maybe they should interview 'Eric Olthwaite' of Denley Moor. He is interested in precipitation patterns in West Yorkshire, shovels and black pudding.
Those in the know, know what I am on about.   ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 05 April 2013, 16:56:50
That is one very pretty boat, Dean.  Have fun prepping her.  :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Randi on 05 April 2013, 18:00:58
Kathy - any news on your laptop?
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Kevin on 05 April 2013, 19:20:03
Who knew that women and minors were among the crews of US merchant vessels in the coastwise trade during World War II? Many served, some were killed, none recognized. This is the subject of HR 1288 ?WW II Merchant Mariners Service Act? and, FYI, why our team is providing advice on imaging and data recovery so that these sailors can finally be recognized for their service, and, where in the few cases still possible, granted veteran status. What we're all doing seems to find a new application every other day.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 05 April 2013, 20:31:20
Who knew that women and minors were among the crews of US merchant vessels in the coastwise trade during World War II? Many served, some were killed, none recognized. This is the subject of HR 1288 ?WW II Merchant Mariners Service Act? and, FYI, why our team is providing advice on imaging and data recovery so that these sailors can finally be recognized for their service, and, where in the few cases still possible, granted veteran status. What we're all doing seems to find a new application every other day.

Kevin, this says that bill has been hung up in committee for 2 years:
  http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d112:h.r.1288:
Do you want us (Americans on this) to write to our congress reps to get it moving?
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Kevin on 05 April 2013, 21:46:22
I'll let the PTB on the project weigh in on that when they're ready. I was taken aback by the story though.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Kathy on 05 April 2013, 22:07:02
Thanks for asking - it is very dead -  :'( :'( :'(

It would cost $1,350 to recover the data from the hard drive - I said no...

So, it is getting a new hard drive and I should have it back in 2 weeks -

I'm going to need to get the Foxglove file again.

The only good news is that our European trip pictures are on another computer and so are not lost

Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Kevin on 05 April 2013, 22:41:00
If the hard drive is taken as beyond recovery you could send it to me. I know a guy who might get something off it for a fraction of the cost - or he may kill it the rest of the way dead.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Dean on 05 April 2013, 23:50:35
Thanks for asking - it is very dead -  :'( :'( :'(

It would cost $1,350 to recover the data from the hard drive - I said no...

So, it is getting a new hard drive and I should have it back in 2 weeks -

I'm going to need to get the Foxglove file again.

The only good news is that our European trip pictures are on another computer and so are not lost

Kathy's Hard Drive R.I.P. :-\ :'(
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Dean on 05 April 2013, 23:54:33
That is one very pretty boat, Dean.  Have fun prepping her.  :)

Thanks! This will be our 34th season together. By the end of the first couple sails we'll have completed 7000 (11,300km)miles together all on Lake Ontario.  8)

Maybe THIS year we'll get 'up river' to Chicago!
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Caro on 06 April 2013, 03:32:47
Hello OW.
She certainly is a pretty boat, Dean. I hope you get good sailing weather.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: AvastMH on 06 April 2013, 15:07:27
Kathy,
Miserable news mate...RIP the computer - I'd take Kevin up on his offer...could be a last chance.  :'( :'(
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: AvastMH on 06 April 2013, 15:09:52
Cute boat Dean...very dapper  ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: AvastMH on 06 April 2013, 17:41:34
Hi everyone - the talk went really well!
THANK YOU SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO MUCH FOR ALL THE HELP YOU GAVE

I'm trying to get a couple of pictures of the 'desk' off my phone for you - hopefully soon.  There will be a podcast of the talk - I'll let you know when that turns up.
Sadly it was a beautiful day outside so they had their lowest attendance numbers in weeks - sigh! So I had about 10 people plus some standing back listening from around the gallery. Those who were there seemed very interested. I was asked if Melville (Jeannette and Thesis ) was related to Melville - Moby Dick. Not that I'm aware. The chap asked about a few more fiction writers - whether they get ideas from the stories of these ships.   The chap introducing the talk asked about a return to British ships. I think a few of the cards on my desk went. I've attached a poster that I used on the desk.

Anyway what I discover is that OW seems to have a reputation as being very interesting, much more so than most of the other zooniverses, and that it's noted for being a honey pot for so many other groups - scientists and historians &c &c   Well - we know that don't we folks?  ;D

I got very interested faces for the view of log pages, they were glued to the Jeannette story, and I got laughs for every light bit I put in. And a round of applause at the end. Job done.

So - that's why I thank you all. And I'll hand on a bucketful of Goodluck to Dean for his next talk!

(http://img812.imageshack.us/img812/8415/a1detailsowcsv2.jpg)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 06 April 2013, 18:04:05
I'm glad they appreciated the work you put into the preparation, I'm glad it went over well.  :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Randi on 06 April 2013, 18:04:55
Good work!
and
Good night ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 06 April 2013, 19:50:56
Well done Joan.
You can have a few more EARLY nights now.

Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Kathy on 06 April 2013, 21:12:14
Yeah Joan!  I'm glad it went well -

I think I will take Kevin up on his offer - maybe something can be saved from the drive!
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 06 April 2013, 21:31:14
Often if the HDD itself is not physically damaged (the laptop blew up but not the disk) the drive can connected up to another PC and the data read.
If the HDD electrics are fried then the platters can be removed and placed in another HDD to be read, not an easy task but can be done.
Good luck.

If the worst come to the worst you can strip out the HDD magnets and make very strong fridge magnets from them to hold your paper data.  ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Kevin on 06 April 2013, 22:35:32
The fellow here takes the disks out - just in his basement, not a clean room. I also have a dropped while running 250 GB external that I'm going to take.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Kevin on 06 April 2013, 22:46:42
And that question about fiction writers, Joan. It is well known that Melville used the story of the whaler Essex in Moby Dick (i.e. N. Philbrick's 'In the Heart of the Sea'). Less (or un) known is the degree that material from Scoresby's 'An Account of the Arctic Regions' appears in Moby Dick. If I had the free time I'd compare certain chapters using anti-crib software just to see how it would turn out. The chapter on the definition of 'a struck whale' and the section on the thunderstruck compass and induced magnetism are obvious candidates.

In modern times, Andrea Barrett's 'Voyage of the Narwhal' is a kind of synthesis of 19th century Arctic experiences.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Caro on 07 April 2013, 04:00:32
Hello OW.
Glad to hear your presentation went well, Joan.
Looking forward to the pics and the podcast!

Observer article (http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2013/apr/07/science-behind-britain-coldest-easter) on the UK's weird weather.

Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: lollia paolina on 07 April 2013, 05:03:35
Hi Joan,
I am really glad your talk went well :)  Congratulations!! :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: studentforever on 07 April 2013, 05:43:30
Well done.  You've done us proud.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: propriome on 07 April 2013, 05:58:49
Well done Joan! Congrats!!  :) :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Helen J on 07 April 2013, 06:21:51
Glad it went well, Joan - and it sounds as though you did a lot of work in preparation which will be very valuable for you and others in the future as well, which is a bonus.  Congratulations on taking it on and making it work.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: AvastMH on 07 April 2013, 07:12:14
And that question about fiction writers, Joan. It is well known that Melville used the story of the whaler Essex in Moby Dick (i.e. N. Philbrick's 'In the Heart of the Sea'). Less (or un) known is the degree that material from Scoresby's 'An Account of the Arctic Regions' appears in Moby Dick. If I had the free time I'd compare certain chapters using anti-crib software just to see how it would turn out. The chapter on the definition of 'a struck whale' and the section on the thunderstruck compass and induced magnetism are obvious candidates.

In modern times, Andrea Barrett's 'Voyage of the Narwhal' is a kind of synthesis of 19th century Arctic experiences.
Kevin - what a mine of information you are - thanks ever so for that! I think he did mention Barrett. I did wonder if Pullman chose his character Lee Scoresby from the His Dark Materials trilogy after the Scoresby that you mention. I've never read much about the Arctic. I'm still trying to get through Apsley Cherry-Gerrard's version of the Scott trip to the S pole.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Craig on 07 April 2013, 07:37:03
I'm glad it went well, Joan!
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Kevin on 07 April 2013, 12:53:41
My two favorite and most readable nonfiction Arctic books:

Neatby: In Quest of the Nortwest Passage http://archive.org/details/inquestofthenort012745mbp
MClintock: Voyage of the Fox http://archive.org/details/voyageoffoxinarc00mcliuoft

The latter is one of the best of the published first-hand accounts. Modern 'interpretations' - especially of expeditions that didn't go so smoothly - often suffer from the interpretation itself to an annoying extent. Neatby is one of the few who tell the story without doing alot of "if they only hadn't made that silly mistake, x would have happened. And yet another reason OW is so cool - great stories as they happen.

Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: AvastMH on 07 April 2013, 13:11:24
Thanks for the reading tips Kevin!  My bookshelf continues to evolve ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Dean on 07 April 2013, 13:12:54
Joan:  I replied in a PM but DEFINITELY should also say PUBLICLY:

Joan: I KNEW you'd do well! I had utmost confidence in your ability to Dazzle 'em!

Glad it went well! We'll have to get together and form an 'OW Speaker's Bureau - Have Powerpoint, Will Travel!'  ;)

Blessings,  dean


 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: AvastMH on 07 April 2013, 13:54:35
Thank you Dean - that's very kind - I think it's a good idea for us to have those sorts of resources around...we can keep them updated and be ready for other chances to speak. There's a whole huge Women's Institute out there in the UK...and perhaps the group on Alderney. It's well worth while thinking about potential audiences - I know you've already done your group of Historians, we've both done crowd-sourcing citizen scientists. What do the moderators think about this?
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Randi on 07 April 2013, 14:36:19
I think it is GREAT! ;D

We may not have huge numbers of transcribers, but what we lack in numbers we make up in enthusiasm!
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Thursday Next on 07 April 2013, 15:03:49
And that question about fiction writers, Joan. It is well known that Melville used the story of the whaler Essex in Moby Dick (i.e. N. Philbrick's 'In the Heart of the Sea'). Less (or un) known is the degree that material from Scoresby's 'An Account of the Arctic Regions' appears in Moby Dick. If I had the free time I'd compare certain chapters using anti-crib software just to see how it would turn out. The chapter on the definition of 'a struck whale' and the section on the thunderstruck compass and induced magnetism are obvious candidates.

In modern times, Andrea Barrett's 'Voyage of the Narwhal' is a kind of synthesis of 19th century Arctic experiences.
Kevin - what a mine of information you are - thanks ever so for that! I think he did mention Barrett. I did wonder if Pullman chose his character Lee Scoresby from the His Dark Materials trilogy after the Scoresby that you mention. I've never read much about the Arctic. I'm still trying to get through Apsley Cherry-Gerrard's version of the Scott trip to the S pole.

Glad your talk went well, Joan.

I've had the Apsley Cherry-Gerrard book on my wish list for a while - is it heavy going?  I wanted to read it after it was cited as a source by Kevin Brockmaier for his novel "The Brief History of the Dead", since we seem to be on the subject of non-fiction sources used by novelists. 

According to Wikipedia, Phillip Pullman says: "Lee Scoresby comes from two sources. One is the actor Lee Van Cleef, who looks just like the character. And the other is the name of an Arctic explorer, William Scoresby."  Go to the top of the class!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_His_Dark_Materials_characters
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Kevin on 07 April 2013, 17:02:55
I wonder if Pullman was familiar with Scoresby that's also where the idea of 'sky iron' comes from (as in panzerbjorn armor) - or maybe that's only in the movie? There was an iron meteorite in Greenland that was culturally significant until it was nipped by some 19th c. explorer or other who passed it on to the Smithsonian.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: AvastMH on 07 April 2013, 18:31:09
You know some of the best of these books just go to show how much research some writers are prepared to put into a gripping novel (well I enjoyed it anyway), and how that work pays up.  As my Yorkshire mother used to say (very often) you don't get ought for nought. I love learning new things - and that is indeed a real attraction of OW.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 08 April 2013, 01:53:41
Spotted recently an item that Randi may like.
http://www.sciencemuseumshop.co.uk/Home/Kitchen/product/322331/The-OCD-Chef-Chopping-Board.html (http://www.sciencemuseumshop.co.uk/Home/Kitchen/product/322331/The-OCD-Chef-Chopping-Board.html) and only 22 quid.  ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Randi on 08 April 2013, 03:15:46
 ;D ;D ;D

Unfortunately, given my poor coordination, those lines would only serve as decoration ::)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Caro on 08 April 2013, 03:22:12
Must NOT get myself one of those!
Hello world.  :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: AvastMH on 08 April 2013, 04:11:01
And that question about fiction writers, Joan. It is well known that Melville used the story of the whaler Essex in Moby Dick (i.e. N. Philbrick's 'In the Heart of the Sea'). Less (or un) known is the degree that material from Scoresby's 'An Account of the Arctic Regions' appears in Moby Dick. If I had the free time I'd compare certain chapters using anti-crib software just to see how it would turn out. The chapter on the definition of 'a struck whale' and the section on the thunderstruck compass and induced magnetism are obvious candidates.

In modern times, Andrea Barrett's 'Voyage of the Narwhal' is a kind of synthesis of 19th century Arctic experiences.
Kevin - what a mine of information you are - thanks ever so for that! I think he did mention Barrett. I did wonder if Pullman chose his character Lee Scoresby from the His Dark Materials trilogy after the Scoresby that you mention. I've never read much about the Arctic. I'm still trying to get through Apsley Cherry-Gerrard's version of the Scott trip to the S pole.

Glad your talk went well, Joan.

I've had the Apsley Cherry-Gerrard book on my wish list for a while - is it heavy going?  I wanted to read it after it was cited as a source by Kevin Brockmaier for his novel "The Brief History of the Dead", since we seem to be on the subject of non-fiction sources used by novelists. 

According to Wikipedia, Phillip Pullman says: "Lee Scoresby comes from two sources. One is the actor Lee Van Cleef, who looks just like the character. And the other is the name of an Arctic explorer, William Scoresby."  Go to the top of the class!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_His_Dark_Materials_characters

Thanks Thursdaynext.
Well blow me down...Lee van Cleef had come to mind but I ignored the thought... that's interesting.
The A C_G book is moderately heavy going - but very good, I'm nearly through it now. My mum got through it quickly, but exploration in cold parts of the world became her speciality in her late 70's. We both liked that he was critical of Scott's methods. I think it might be back in print again now, but if it's not on line and you can't track it down let me know and I'll lend you mine. I got my copy through Abebooks.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Kathy on 08 April 2013, 10:18:38
(http://www.freesmileys.org/emoticons/emoticon-looney-toons-001.gif) (http://www.freesmileys.org/emoticons.php)

urg...

I am so bored with work right now...

How is everyone doing?
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Craig on 08 April 2013, 11:38:21
I presume when you say "work" you are not referring to OW?  ;D

As for me, the Yukon is pretty boring these days. The only thing keeping me from dozing off is the abrupt changes from civil time to sea time and back. But this is still not "work".
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Kathy on 08 April 2013, 11:45:09
Oh yes, I do not mean OW - I mean the soul crushing thing I do to help put food on the table and a roof over our heads - I really need to win the lottery!  :P
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Helen J on 08 April 2013, 12:29:59
The work part of life is quite varied - an interesting essay to write (though it's a little hard to see quite when it's going to get done); also beginning to think about the agendas for a meeting in South Korea in August (I know, that might be a bit too exciting!).
OW - Rinaldo is stuck in Durban refitting and so not wildly exciting, but there's the odd 'interesting' transcription to look out for and the hunt for the less readable names of ships to keep me engaged.  And I've looked ahead and know that she sets off again in a month or two.
Hope the lottery turns up trumps for you, Kathy!
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: studentforever on 08 April 2013, 12:48:21
'Work' is now voluntary but have an exam to revise for and a possible presentation to sort out for the autumn and I am hoping to hear about some volunteering at the local museum resource centre.

Manica is pootling around the coast of German East Africa, hoisting her balloon and flying off her seaplane.  One town surrendered after shelling and they sometimes fire at shore and today the shore has fired back!

Hope you either get a good win or a reasonable retirement approaches with rapidity but I can remember spells when I was working to earn my daily crust when todays life seemed a dream beyond reach.  (I could do with the joints I had then but you can't have everything)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: AvastMH on 08 April 2013, 12:58:45
Hope you get the lottery Kathy.  ;)
My work is boring x10 - just where I like it - I'd be sad to use my brain to a frazzle during the day and have nothing left for OW on a night.  ;D 8)
But come next Michaelmas term (Autumn) at work I'll be pulling my hair out and begging for mercy.  >:(
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Kathy on 08 April 2013, 13:05:52
Thanks everyone - I should probably buy a lottery ticket now  ::)

It is just an out of sorts kind of day for me today -
and since I refuse to live an unexamined life, I think I have figured out why -

1) The Nationals got schooled by the Reds this weekend (heavy sigh)
2)  It is FINALLY warm here and I'm stuck inside (arg)
3)  One of my favorite characters seems to have been killed off by her author in the most recent book of her series - I finished the book yesterday, during the baseball game, no less. (ack!)

It doesn't help that I had to walk the puppy dog at 3:30am this morning, but at least she woke me up as opposed to just going potty on the floor..
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Thursday Next on 08 April 2013, 13:22:07
I too spent many years doing a soul-destroying job to pay the bills.  I am so pleased to be retired and love my voluntary work - socializing cats at the local Cats Protection adoption centre!  This does not mean I spend all my time cuddling beautiful, purring pussycats - there is a lot of leaning into pens, waving cat toys, with a cat sitting just outside the catflap glaring at me!  But when a shy cat comes round and starts to enjoy the company of people (thus becoming much easier to home) it is very satisfying to think I made a small contribution.  And I can always indulge myself by cuddling a pretty, friendly one when I feel I've been glared at for long enough!
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Kathy on 08 April 2013, 13:30:42
That does sound very rewarding!

We have 2 cats, so I can definitely appreciate what you are doing. 
I don't think any creature on the earth can glare like a cat -

I really shouldn't complain - I work part time, from home and get a decent pay out of it, I just don't want to do it today!
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Kathy on 08 April 2013, 13:43:59
Just saw this -

Rest in Peace Margaret Thatcher -

Love her or hate her, she made her mark on the world -
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 08 April 2013, 14:39:36
She was an incredible woman.  Rest in Peace, Margaret.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Steeleye on 09 April 2013, 07:14:08
Almost 6 months we've been waiting for the footy season to get started.  This is why we love it:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-BAaCBC1V1Q (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-BAaCBC1V1Q)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OHtWaNa3Db4 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OHtWaNa3Db4)

With the Ashes also being on in England this year, I could be up for a few sleepless nights as well.
 :o 8)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Caro on 09 April 2013, 12:27:39
Hello OW.
Bit of a giggle: flashmob Rembrandt in Breda.  ;D
https://www.youtube.com/tv?vq=medium#/watch?v=u8YhJs00nX0&mode=transport
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: AvastMH on 09 April 2013, 13:42:16
Hello OW.
Bit of a giggle: flashmob Rembrandt in Breda.  ;D
https://www.youtube.com/tv?vq=medium#/watch?v=u8YhJs00nX0&mode=transport
Stunner! Loved the frame coming down at the end.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: AvastMH on 09 April 2013, 13:44:45
Almost 6 months we've been waiting for the footy season to get started.  This is why we love it:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-BAaCBC1V1Q (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-BAaCBC1V1Q)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OHtWaNa3Db4 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OHtWaNa3Db4)

With the Ashes also being on in England this year, I could be up for a few sleepless nights as well.
 :o 8)

Go to bed on time Steeleye - we're keeping the ashes....hehehehe!  ;D ;D ;D 8) 8)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Steeleye on 09 April 2013, 16:16:23
Almost 6 months we've been waiting for the footy season to get started.  This is why we love it:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-BAaCBC1V1Q (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-BAaCBC1V1Q)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OHtWaNa3Db4 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OHtWaNa3Db4)

With the Ashes also being on in England this year, I could be up for a few sleepless nights as well.
 :o 8)

Go to bed on time Steeleye - we're keeping the ashes....hehehehe!  ;D ;D ;D 8) 8)

I might have been here for 48 years Joan, but the one thing in which I am still avowedly English is the cricket, and specifically the Ashes! So yes, I hope we are retaining the Ashes. The other reason for regular late nights in our winter is the coverage of the Tour de France.  Life would be so much simpler if the world was flat.

 :-*
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Caro on 09 April 2013, 16:20:21
I'm staying out of this.  ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 09 April 2013, 16:42:47
I am so glad I don't know what the "Ashes" are - it sounds very passionate. ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 09 April 2013, 16:45:31
Having been Lobotomized from an Englishman to an Australian I can barrack for either side.
Come on the winners.
 ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Steeleye on 09 April 2013, 16:56:23
I am so glad I don't know what the "Ashes" are - it sounds very passionate. ;)

As someone here once said about their particular sporting passion: "It's not a matter of life or death. It's much more important than that."

The Ashes are like that, Janet.

 ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 09 April 2013, 17:15:47
I am so glad I don't know what the "Ashes" are - it sounds very passionate. ;)

As someone here once said about their particular sporting passion: "It's not a matter of life or death. It's much more important than that."

The Ashes are like that, Janet.

 ;D

I figured.  I've watched my sister talk about the Green Bay Packers - do NOT insult them while she is in the room!! ::) ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: AvastMH on 09 April 2013, 18:32:12
Steeleye - I didn't know - you need these... :-* :-* :-* :-* and an apology...stay up late - celebrate. Erm - do England stand a chance?
The sad thing is, of course, that the weather will probably win the day and it'll all be rained off.  ::) ;D ;D ;D

BTW My sister and brother in law are obsessed with the TdeF. I like it too but can't get it on my telly.  :(
I'm still riding high on Oxford bagging the Boat Race last weekend. ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 09 April 2013, 20:55:27
This should go to the speaker's bureau resource page when we get one...but here is a link to the seminar announcement (tomorrow at UW) and monster ppt for download:

http://www.pmel.noaa.gov/arctic/rediscover/about.html  (bottom of page)

Kevin - we do have one in the Old Weather News board, Randi moved all of Joan's planning to set it up.  I just stickied it to make it more findable and moved your comment and its reply over there.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Steeleye on 09 April 2013, 22:07:55
Steeleye - I didn't know - you need these... :-* :-* :-* :-* and an apology...stay up late - celebrate. Erm - do England stand a chance?
The sad thing is, of course, that the weather will probably win the day and it'll all be rained off.  ::) ;D ;D ;D

BTW My sister and brother in law are obsessed with the TdeF. I like it too but can't get it on my telly.  :(
I'm still riding high on Oxford bagging the Boat Race last weekend. ;D

No apologies necessary, Joan. Only politicians claim to be omniscient.

Interesting that you can't get the TdeF on the TV from the other side of the Channel.  For at least the last decade we have been getting it live on a free-to-air channel every night of the tour.  The broadcast starts about half-way through each stage (around 9.30-10.30pm) and continues through to the end of the stage around 1.30am. We also get live broadcast of some of the classics, such as the Tour of Flanders and Paris-Roubaix (last Sunday night). I think that 'peloton' is French for 'masochist'.

 ::)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Caro on 10 April 2013, 02:43:29
Good morning, sports fans.
As far as I know, the Tour de France is shown on ITV4 (Freeview channel 24) in the UK.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Maikel on 10 April 2013, 03:47:17
I don't get it.
What's so special about ashes?

U.S.S. Yorktown is shovelling them out by the lighter load when in harbour. ;D

And before you start explaining, I do know what The Ashes are. ;)

Meanwhile, for those cycling fans waiting for the Tour de France, this is the month of the spring classics.
This Sunday the Amstel Gold race in The Netherlands.
Combine this with the F1 in China, and I already now how my Sunday will be waisted. :D
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 10 April 2013, 05:17:54
I wish there was a drop down box for the Location where you could store place names. Typing Norfolk, Va. is getting very boring.  ???
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Steeleye on 10 April 2013, 05:41:24
I wish there was a drop down box for the Location where you could store place names. Typing Norfolk, Va. is getting very boring.  ???

... but I'm sure that Norfolk, Va is a very exciting place to be.

We've just had to suffer through another perfect Autumn day.  Eat your hearts out, Northerners!

Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 10 April 2013, 05:57:32
Firefox is the only Browser with dropdown boxes for locations.  With this many thousands names globally being used, I would not want to be the one to assemble that list. :P
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 10 April 2013, 15:18:14
Sorry, I did mean one  could compile the list myself.
May try Firefox.
Thanks.

Tried it, works for me.  :)
Now if I can just get NONE in the clouds box and the cursor in the Hour box then I would have nothing to grumble about.  ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Caro on 10 April 2013, 16:39:35
I couldn't possibly comment.  :-X ;D
I'm glad to hear that you have made friends with Firefox, Stuart.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 10 April 2013, 17:25:43
Now I have removed the stupid 'Deal Spy' which seems to come with Firefox, it seems OK.
I have Forum/ Concord crewlist up in Google and OW data entry in firefox. Alt tab between them.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Caro on 11 April 2013, 03:25:36
Deal Spy can be bundled with Chrome, Firefox and IE apparently.
As you have found, Stuart, there is plenty of advice on the web on how to get rid of it.

And good morning all.  :D
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 11 April 2013, 04:57:06
A slightly different video clip of this made the news last night.  Interesting things pop up on slow news days.
Lion, tiger and bear - oh, my!! a video (http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=o3c-I_Y98tg)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Caro on 11 April 2013, 05:25:07
The video is not available in the UK, sad to say.
Google it: Lion and Tiger and Bear, Oh My! - National Geographic Channel.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 11 April 2013, 05:40:37
Caro, both our nations' broadcasters have to start thinking global.   ::)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Caro on 13 April 2013, 03:55:34
Hello OW.
Allegedly, it will be 16C here tomorrow.
Spring has been a looong time coming.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Steeleye on 13 April 2013, 07:44:57
... and another tough day here.  Topped out at 25 C (26 tomorrow). Currently 13 with the wind 0 knots, gusting to 0 knots, according to the Bureau of Meteorology.

We're continuing to struggle through autumn.

 :-*

Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Dean on 13 April 2013, 07:50:57
 2.8" (7.2cm) and the 4th day in a row for rain here.  :'(

We need the water for the lakes but at this rate we'll need a lifeboat from the Royal Navy in the driveway!!!!!! ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Kathy on 13 April 2013, 08:04:36
cool but gorgeous here (60s) - Spring has really busted out!
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: jil on 13 April 2013, 08:20:55
It was glorious here this morning but now raining  ::) . It is warmish rain though (14C)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: AvastMH on 13 April 2013, 09:08:32
2.8" (7.2cm) and the 4th day in a row for rain here.  :'(

We need the water for the lakes but at this rate we'll need a lifeboat from the Royal Navy in the driveway!!!!!! ;)

Just get your swimming trunks on, blow up your arm floats, and head down to the shops Dean ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Dean on 13 April 2013, 16:03:08
2.8" (7.2cm) and the 4th day in a row for rain here.  :'(

We need the water for the lakes but at this rate we'll need a lifeboat from the Royal Navy in the driveway!!!!!! ;)

Just get your swimming trunks on, blow up your arm floats, and head down to the shops Dean ;D

Lake temp currently 32 to 36?F ( 0to +2?C)  Brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr :P
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: AvastMH on 13 April 2013, 16:18:09
ok - I'll let you off Dean - 36F sounds a tad chilly  ;) :D
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: studentforever on 13 April 2013, 16:55:07
Sounds as if you'd better hurry down to the stores and get yourself one of those snazzy dry suits that divers use for really cold water and don't forget the instructions on the construction of arks jist in case.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: AvastMH on 13 April 2013, 19:31:47
 ;D Studentforever's right, Dean...and just make sure you dust off your cubit measure...  ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Dean on 14 April 2013, 01:09:24
;D Studentforever's right, Dean...and just make sure you dust off your cubit measure...  ;)

So What's a cubit?!-----Classic Bill Cosby -    http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=so9o3_daDZw
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: AvastMH on 14 April 2013, 05:43:39
 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Craig on 14 April 2013, 06:03:34
We even have the ark log.  40 days of R. The dates and location are a bit fuzzy though.  ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Kathy on 14 April 2013, 07:18:20
 ;D

My baby is back!  I have been redoing book marks, contacts, etc.  I'm going to be the Backup Queen from this day forward!
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: jil on 14 April 2013, 07:25:26
Great news Kathy! Did you manage to recover any files?
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Kathy on 14 April 2013, 07:31:39
Alas, no :'(
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 15 April 2013, 17:37:47
Sad to near about Boston. %^(
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Randi on 15 April 2013, 17:48:07
Terrible.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 15 April 2013, 18:20:38
I mourn both the pain and that someone is that ill.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Randi on 15 April 2013, 18:31:06
I mourn both the pain and that someone is that ill.
Yes
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: AvastMH on 15 April 2013, 18:46:42
Very, very sorry to see what happened in Boston today. I hope the injured have a swift recovery to full health.  :-* :-*
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Dean on 15 April 2013, 19:36:51
All are in our thoughts and Prayers tonight. :'(
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: lollia paolina on 16 April 2013, 01:40:52
People in Boston and all the United States are in my prayers. I am more sorry than I can say.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Caro on 16 April 2013, 04:33:22
What a sad day for Boston.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Kathy on 16 April 2013, 06:16:10
I simply don't understand how someone could do something like that.  I think there are things worth fighting for, but to hide in the shadows and attack innocent people -  :'(
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Randi on 16 April 2013, 07:01:47
Exactly
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: AvastMH on 16 April 2013, 08:46:03
Reminds me so much of the IRA London bombings in the early 70s. We were all very aware of any odd package/item sitting on the street or in the Underground. These days you go up to London and no-one seems to take real notice or bother to make an issue of left luggage. About a year ago I was on a train and spotted an unattended case. I asked if it belonged to anyone - I might as well have been speaking Martian. So I said, even louder, 'I'm pulling the emergency cord so this train goes no-where at the next stop'...the owner sort of rustled up to it, grunted and put it next to them. Sheesh! ::) ::)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Craig on 16 April 2013, 09:08:04
I simply don't understand how someone could do something like that.  I think there are things worth fighting for, but to hide in the shadows and attack innocent people -  :'(

I agree with you, Kathy, and I feel very sorry for the victims of this heinous act. However, we must remember that U.S. drones are killing innocent people in Pakistan. Certainly, they are not intentionally targeting innocent people but that doesn't change the perception of those who have lost loved ones. Those operating the drones are "hiding in the shadows" too. I know that not all Americans agree with this sort of warfare and we outside the U.S. share some responsibility to the extent that it saves us from sending our troops to fight on the ground. It's a nasty business and we shouldn't be surprised if there are repercussions. I don't know if these events are connected but I wouldn't be surprised.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: szukacz on 16 April 2013, 10:00:02
 :'(  [`] [`] [`]   :'(
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Kathy on 16 April 2013, 10:09:42
To a certain extent I agree with you about the drones, however, I think using them is better than just dropping bombs or firing missiles willy-nilly.  Yes, their use is hiding in the shadows, but they are very specifically targeted on people who think it ok to kill thousands of people for some sort of twisted political/religious reason.  I certainly do not advocate the killing of innocent bystanders...maybe the best thing would be to send in strike teams ala Osama Bin Laden to protect those used as shields by these cowards who have no honor, and in my opinion, no Faith. Christian, Muslim, whatever - this is not the way honorable people treat each other.

I hate this whole sorry mess   :'( -

Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Randi on 16 April 2013, 10:21:01
Rather than letting this become a discussion of the military/political/moral aspects of US policy - especially when it could be like the Oklahoma city bombing...

Let's think about the people who rushed in to offer first aid, who opened their houses to total strangers, and who offered transportation, and restaurants that offered WiFi access, food, and comfort to all (and employees that came in to help on their day off).
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Kathy on 16 April 2013, 10:33:35
I agree -

I think it will turn out to be something like that, especially since no group seems to have claimed responsibility yet -

It is not in the good times, but in the bad that people show their true selves - there are a lot of people, around the world, who show how we all should be.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 18 April 2013, 07:29:13
Well, this is my turn to dust off my cubits measure.  So far in the last 24 hours, we've had a bit more than 4.5" of rain (11.5cm).  Very ocgRtl.  And more happening and coming.

Some expressway stormdrains are not handling the volume:
(http://tribwgntv.files.wordpress.com/2013/04/framegrab.jpg)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Steeleye on 18 April 2013, 07:54:44
By my reckoning, Janet, you've had 0.25 cubits of rain ... or 1.125 hands, if you adopt my daughter's approach of viewing the world in horse terms!

Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 18 April 2013, 09:52:24
This is a storm that is good for the lakes, and terrible for the farmers.  Broken up into 5 smaller storms would have made everyone happier.

Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Kathy on 18 April 2013, 10:32:20
try not to float away - :o
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 18 April 2013, 11:10:24
I'm in a very safe place for floods, halfway up to a ridge that was an ancient lake bluff, before the lake level dropped catastrophically 1,000 years ago.  It all keeps flowing past me downhill into the needy lake, not puddling in the streets much.  (I'm not promising the same happiness for my landlord's basement.)

In the suburbs, Oswego High School kids had an illusion of getting out of school today, but their staff had the geyser tamed before classes opened.
(http://cdn.abclocal.go.com/images/wls/cms_exf_2007/_video_wn_images/9070134_335x188.jpg)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 18 April 2013, 11:34:21
The back edge of the bad storms has finally moved out of the north side of Chicago, south side still getting some.  Just some hours of light rain left.  Final total, 5.76" (14.7cm) of rain in 26 hours.  It may or may not climb to an even 6".  Some weather records we really don't need to make.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: studentforever on 18 April 2013, 12:03:49
I think this qualifies as 'extreme weather fluctuations'.  Keep safe.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 18 April 2013, 19:00:52
Happy Birthday, Superman!

(http://www.comicstalkblog.com/wp-content/uploads/75_years-300x225.jpg)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 19 April 2013, 04:48:34
Thanks.   ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Steeleye on 19 April 2013, 06:00:55
In simple terms, there were probably only 5 actions of significance between fleets in World War I - Heligoland Bight, Coronel, Falklands, Dogger Bank and Jutland. Four of those occurred in the first 6 months of the war.  Previously I have edited histories from Heligoland, the Falklands and Jutland. Mostly the ships' logs contained remarkably little information, presumably reflecting the very restricted perspective on a ship (Falklands was something of an exception).

I have just edited the history for HMS Princess Royal which was a participant at the Battle of the Dogger bank. Her log for the day of the battle is far more detailed than the other logs that I've com across and makes interesting reading when you have a full account of the battle in the other hand.  The log for this day is at:
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ADM53-55960/ADM53-55960-045_0.jpg (http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ADM53-55960/ADM53-55960-045_0.jpg)

Enjoy your reading.

Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: AvastMH on 19 April 2013, 09:36:05
Happy Birthday, Superman!

(http://www.comicstalkblog.com/wp-content/uploads/75_years-300x225.jpg)

I'm going to get a cape and wear my britches on the outside - perhaps I'll be a super hero too.

Go Superman!
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Thursday Next on 20 April 2013, 12:57:37
In simple terms, there were probably only 5 actions of significance between fleets in World War I - Heligoland Bight, Coronel, Falklands, Dogger Bank and Jutland. Four of those occurred in the first 6 months of the war.  Previously I have edited histories from Heligoland, the Falklands and Jutland. Mostly the ships' logs contained remarkably little information, presumably reflecting the very restricted perspective on a ship (Falklands was something of an exception).

I have just edited the history for HMS Princess Royal which was a participant at the Battle of the Dogger bank. Her log for the day of the battle is far more detailed than the other logs that I've com across and makes interesting reading when you have a full account of the battle in the other hand.  The log for this day is at:
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ADM53-55960/ADM53-55960-045_0.jpg (http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ADM53-55960/ADM53-55960-045_0.jpg)

Enjoy your reading.

Interesting!  Thanks for posting.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Thursday Next on 20 April 2013, 13:05:03
It has finally felt like spring here in Devon today!  Tulips coming into bloom, apple tree coming into leaf, and some warmth to the sun at last!  :D
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: AvastMH on 20 April 2013, 13:40:55
Nice day up here in Oxfordshire too. Lots of Blackthorn blossom just going over, and leaves coming out. Five Mile Drive is about to do its cherry blossom thing (it's a long road with alternating light and dark cherry trees). :D
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Dean on 20 April 2013, 15:02:14
Can't decide WHAT it's doing here in western New York! :-\

Thursday was sunny and 85?F (30?C) - This morning it was 32?F (0?C) and we had 1/4" (4mm) SNOW! ::)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Craig on 20 April 2013, 15:39:57
Same here, Dean. Yesterday I was walking around without a jacket and today it's freezing. Typical April.

This reminds me of one year when Easter was rather late. The weekend was beautiful with temperatures up near 80 F (this was pre-metric days). I went out and began turning the soil to prepare my garden. The next day we got a foot of snow! But it didn't last long.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 20 April 2013, 16:11:07
First we had 70F and so much rain every river in NE Illinois set new records for a flood crest. The next day it was so cold we had snow flurries.  Today it is dry but quite chilly.  Still no leaves on the trees, thought crocuses are beginning to show hope.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Randi on 20 April 2013, 16:20:22
Same pattern here too.

About a week of abnormally warm weather, and then today it turned cold with some rain.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: JamesAPrattIII on 21 April 2013, 22:15:34
There was a 1917 fleet action in the North Sea. Sadly I can't remember the name or the date of it. It was basicly a long range running gun battle through the minefields. I get back if i can find more information.

They got the Boston bombers.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 21 April 2013, 22:20:43
I know they found both bombers - I'm glad, I'd have really hated if someone got away with that kind of evil.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Randi on 22 April 2013, 02:42:56
Happy Birthday
Janet Jaguar!


(http://www.zooborns.com/.a/6a010535647bf3970b01538e009762970b-500wi)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: propriome on 22 April 2013, 02:54:35
Happy birthday Janet!!  :D :D :D
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: AvastMH on 22 April 2013, 03:05:15
(http://img580.imageshack.us/img580/6944/img2566sd.jpg)
 
;D ;D HAPPY BIRTHDAY JANET !! ;D ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 22 April 2013, 03:24:30
Thank you!!  I love the name-sake cupcakes.   ;D
Turning 65 makes this a milestone year for me.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: jil on 22 April 2013, 05:38:40
Happy Birthday Janet!

Those cupcakes are making me hungry - time for coffee and brownie! Or possible brownies  ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Steeleye on 22 April 2013, 05:57:53
There was a 1917 fleet action in the North Sea. Sadly I can't remember the name or the date of it. It was basicly a long range running gun battle through the minefields. I get back if i can find more information.


Following Jutland, the High Seas Fleet put to sea three more times. On August 18 and October 18, 1916, both operations were rapidly aborted with some blood being drawn by submarines on both sides.  The Grand Fleet and High Seas Fleet did not come close to making contact. The third occasion was when the High Seas Fleet sailed to its surrender in November 1918. As far as I am aware, the only significant surface actions in 1917 were between light forces when the Germans attempted to interdict the convoy traffic between Britain and Norway.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Steeleye on 22 April 2013, 05:59:34
Happy Birthday, Janet.  I will try to be a gentleman, and not ask you what the relevant number is!

Cheers,
Howard
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: lollia paolina on 22 April 2013, 06:12:13
Happy Birthday Janet!!!

:) :) :)

(http://images.pictureshunt.com/pics/h/happy_birthday_balloons-2007.jpg)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Craig on 22 April 2013, 06:35:53
Happy Birthday, Janet!


Craig
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 22 April 2013, 07:06:17
Happy Birthday, Janet.  I will try to be a gentleman, and not ask you what the relevant number is!

Cheers,
Howard

Except I learned early in my adulthood to appreciate survival.  I've made it to 65 - very unAmerican of me to want to celebrate that.  ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Dean on 22 April 2013, 07:37:52
My dad always said 'Considering the alternative - keep getting OLDER!!!' ;)


Janet

   Happy Birthday to you,
   Happy Birthday to you,
   Happy Birthday dear Jaaaannnnnnnnnnnnneeeeeeeettttttttttttttttttttttttttttttt,
   Happy Birthday to you!

Hope it's a happy one and that you get lots of neat presents!
Hope also you get to share with family! ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Kathy on 22 April 2013, 08:15:13
Happy Birthday Janet -

Happy Birthday to a favorite feline -
who works hard to keep us in line,
answers queries sublime,
never begrudging the time -
she reminds me of a very fine wine!

And now for something completely different (yet somewhat related  ;D )
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2013/03/130326-animals-medieval-manuscript-books-cats-history/
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: AvastMH on 22 April 2013, 08:19:27
oh wow Janet - that's a big birthday - hope you are having a party to celebrate!  ;D :-*  Just think of all the societies in this world that properly value the wisdom that age brings.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: studentforever on 22 April 2013, 08:40:48
As someone who passed that milestone a year or two ago, savour the life you have.  Some bits definitely improve, others I'm afraid tend to go downhill (like the wrinkles!).  Have a lovely day, enjoy the fun and look forward to the future.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 22 April 2013, 10:34:44
I intend to live to my best.  Kathy, thanks for the poem and the link - those paw-prints are priceless.  :)

Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Thursday Next on 22 April 2013, 11:22:23
Happy Birthday, Janet!
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Maikel on 22 April 2013, 15:48:47
Happy birthday Janet.

When you looked in the mirror this morning and saw that big 65 above your head, just remember it was the mirror.
In reality it's 56 that's hanging over your head. ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Randi on 22 April 2013, 16:22:19
 ;D ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 22 April 2013, 20:30:50
 ;D ;D 8)

(http://www.smileyvault.com/albums/emoticons/mood/mood-emoticon-0017.gif)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: AvastMH on 23 April 2013, 09:33:07
Today is St George's Day (dragons beware!) and is therefore the traditional day on which dandelion heads are picked to make dandelion wine.  I made dandelion wine once...can't remember drinking it - nor can anyone else who imbibed its delicious sweetness...but we did live to tell the tale of how we forgot it. ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: paging500 on 23 April 2013, 16:01:54
Hello all,

Not sure if this is the right place to post this, but I was wondering, how do people choose which ships to transcribe?  I've gone between a couple different ones over the past couple months.  I was a captain for a few weeks after the new ships were released... but there's no way I can catch up with the current captain now!

Thoughts?
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Dean on 23 April 2013, 16:27:21
Dear Paging500:
       Welcome to our World! Glad you could join us! ;D

I picked my ships in the old Phase II for many reasons. A most because I recognised the name - knew something about them - thought they sounded interesting - had small 'crews' so I had a chance for Captain - some just 'appeared.'

I never DID make Captain and quickly gave up the chase and just enjoyed the ships and the learning!

Right now I am editing ship histories (now on my 6th ship) so I'm not transcribing but will get back to it soon.

Come back often. This is a great place for questions and you WILL get answers ;D ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 23 April 2013, 16:50:04
Which ship "hooks" someone is very intuitive.  You find "your" ship only by lots of trial and error.  Some people choose a ship with slow growth just to have the joy of becoming captain, checking on a ship's page several times a week and comparing the numbers recorded each time will help you spot these.  Others prefer to switch back and forth between a couple of very different ships, going for variety rather than captaincy or first lieutenant.  Both the period of history and the type of log format influence choice.

Having said that, there are several ways of intelligent choosing.  You can look through our Dockyard Ship Index (http://forum.oldweather.org/index.php?topic=3210.0) for a sense of the mechanics involved for that log.  Gordon's Naval-History.net (http://) ship index also has full history and an easier-to-see list of choices.  His write-ups end in the links to the US military's links to the ships' histories.

We have naval ships which may travel anywhere, if that suits you. 

We have Coast Survey ships - they are quiet and completely civilian, not military.  It is their job to take all the surveying and soundings and water analysis to create the US navigation charts for our entire 12,000+ miles of coastline.  We also have one scientific survey drifter, the Jeanette.  Her crew chose to get her locked into the ice for 2 years so as to take measurements of what really happens in the high arctic, state-of-the-art 19th century science that is now critical for establishing long histories of arctic climate.

And we have Revenue Cutter Service / Coast Guard cutters that managed everything in the arctic from stopping foreign ships from killing seals to supplying starving native villages with reindeer herds to replace the seal meat they are losing to the sealers.  The Bear was the first such cutter ever, and established what to expect from these ships for the first time.

I hope you can find something you like.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Randi on 23 April 2013, 17:55:55
Jeannette is interesting, but be warned that it tricky to transcribe. It uses a standard log book format, but then it adds all sorts of extra data. If you want to work on it, I strongly suggest reading through the corresponding Discussion topic (http://forum.oldweather.org/index.php?topic=3338.msg53911#msg53911).
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: AvastMH on 23 April 2013, 18:50:47
Hiya paging500,
Just after I started with OW I wondered how I could be a captain...and then realized I'd never make it. I work full time, but am lucky enough not to have big home commitments.  I wandered around a few ships, and settled on a small gunboat in HongKong in the end.  Small predictable days were such fun when they went wrong...'returned from target practice. Junk with a hole in it on tow behind'. For which read 'some nit went and shot the wrong floaty thing'.  Just as you get your eye into the hand writing you get to spot those little comments that bring the whole thing to life. The US boats tend to have a bit less of that, although you could join the Concord and work out whether you can get beyond signing up 10% of the US nation given the number of those who leg it at every port.  Still most of them have immense histories...which we are now becoming part of. Or take The Rodgers (US, now complete since she had a sort life)  'making the ship snug for winter (in the arctic), building a reading house and smoking room on deck for the winter'...hmm... and who snugged the tinder dry hawser rope under the engine and watched the boat burn down a few days later..oopsie!

Anyway as we got close to finishing ships last year there would often be a rush to get on the crew list to complete it...I did quite a lot of that.  But the best way to be captain is to watch out for new logs coming on, get in quick, take a screen image and frame it for your old age...then pick which boat you'd rather do.  When Philip Brohan and Kevin Wood go off to collect their joint Nobel Prize for this project we'll all be basking in the glory, captain or not (well - it's a nice pipe dream!). If you want to know which ships are going slow I keep a little list each week.  Thetis and Bear were bottom markers last week...but have the problem that they are coming round for session 2 so all the old stats are still there.  I think there will be other entirely new boats out soon...

I hope you stay with us paging500, it's really cheering to see the amount of work you've covered already.  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: JamesAPrattIII on 23 April 2013, 19:01:28
Errata for replys 5312,5321,and 5328 the 1917 action was the 17 Nov 1917 2nd Battle of hegigoland Bight. The final operation of the High Seas Fleet (A misnamed force if there ever was one) was the 23-24 April 1918 operation against a british convoy off Norway that they couldn't find do to poor inteligence. The HSF had a major problem in the fact that coal was in short supply in Germany and every major German operation burned up something like 25,000 tons of the stuff. The Germans planned a major operation in October 1918 but it was stopped by a major mutiny in the HSF.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Caro on 23 April 2013, 19:48:45
Greetings all.
Belated happy birthday Janet!
My excuse is that I was temporarily without internet access.
Back to 'normal' now.  ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 23 April 2013, 19:52:05
The better excuse is that your walking around head down now-a-days. Blood is rushing into your brain.  :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Maikel on 24 April 2013, 03:40:40
but there's no way I can catch up with the current captain now!

Thoughts?

Remember that each log page has to be transcribed by 3 people.
So, perhaps you're not going as fast as your current captain, but when you're the second person to transcribe, you have every change to catch up in the end.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: lollia paolina on 24 April 2013, 05:41:56
but there's no way I can catch up with the current captain now!

Thoughts?

Remember that each log page has to be transcribed by 3 people.
So, perhaps you're not going as fast as your current captain, but when you're the second person to transcribe, you have every change to catch up in the end.

Hi paging500,
Nice to meet you :)

wWhat Maikel says comes from his own experience, in fact he became Captain of Thetis after I held that position for a long time :)

So do not get discouraged and keep transcribing  :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: paging500 on 24 April 2013, 08:11:18
Jeannette is interesting, but be warned that it tricky to transcribe. It uses a standard log book format, but then it adds all sorts of extra data. If you want to work on it, I strongly suggest reading through the corresponding Discussion topic (http://forum.oldweather.org/index.php?topic=3338.msg53911#msg53911).

Hmm.  I have done some transcribing of the Jeanette in the past, and maybe I missed something, but I don't remember noticing any "extra" data apart from lunar observations in the bottom left corner of the events page, and (sometimes) records of soundings.  Should I have been transcribing both of those as well?  Should I go back and fix some of my earlier pages?

Thanks!
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Craig on 24 April 2013, 11:17:31
Hi Paging500.

At a later point in the Jeannette logs they began recording specific gravity and water temperatures at 3 different depths. I transcribed all of these but I am not sure that they require three transcriptions of each one since there is no fixed format for these. They also began reporting Max and Min temperatures when the went to 3-hourly observations.

You are right that there were discriptions of auroras. Clewi has transcribed all of them. So, it may not be necessary to pick anything but the regular weather observations.

Craig
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: paging500 on 24 April 2013, 11:49:51
Oh, by lunar observations, I actually meant something like this:
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Jeannette/vol001of004/vol001_098_1.jpg
which indicates in the bottom left that it was full moon.

It looks like I haven't gotten far enough to see the other details in the logs.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 24 April 2013, 13:43:03
paging500, the bottom line on comments is that they are all optional.  How much you do depends only on how much you want to do.  At one end of the spectrum, you can skip the whole page, except for the date; at the other end, you can do a full transcription for the historians.  Once you know from the forum that a transcriber has covered a subject completely, it clearly gives you more freedom to skip things without guilt.  They are very different than the weather readings, nothing gets discarded ever even if 3 copies of it doesn't exist.  One transcription is sufficient.  Since anyone can look up moon phase from the date, that topic is somewhat trivial.

For all our ships, if you want to do only the important stuff, some comments are more desirable in the here-and-now than others.
for notification and page jpg links on what you can find.  Jeanette has been completely covered there by Clewi, but it is to be remembered when you are transcribing other ships.

Do what you are comfortable with, and know that whatever effort you choose to invest will be useful.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Craig on 24 April 2013, 15:17:20
I recorded everything to do with ice and animals for the Jeannette. So I don't think there's much optional information that hasn't been done. I don't know if Clewi got all the descriptions related to the flooding of this ship, though. There were many months where DeLong indicated the water levels at the bottom of the flooded compartments in the ship. I didn't transcribe any of that. This would have been critical information for officers and crew, of course. There is a very interesting section where he describes the cobbling together of a windmill pump from various pieces of equipment on hand. Lot's of entertainment, especially towards the end.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: paging500 on 24 April 2013, 20:07:24
Ok, great!  Thanks so much.  I've definitely been transcribing the supplementary kinds of data (animals, ice, ships, etc.) when I run into them in the logs.  I just didn't know about some of these unclassified (that is, by the transcription tool) extra bits of information that were being mentioned for the Jeannette.  If other transcribers have already taken care of them, then that's great!
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 24 April 2013, 21:26:56
The other really fun part of doing the Jeanette is that the Captain's Log for that voyage (very different from the ship's log that we are the first to transcribe) has been edited and published by his widow.  So we can read, for example, a page-long description of how they celebrated Christmas Day.  Think of it as the back story to the ship's story and the climate background that we are working on.

The Voyage of the Jeannette: The Ship and Ice Journals of George W. De Long, Lieutenant-commander U.S.N. and Commander of the Polar Expedition of 1879-1881 (http://books.google.com/books?id=_SUaAAAAYAAJ&printsec=frontcover&dq=The+Voyage+of+the+Jeannette:+The+Ship+and+Ice+Journals+of+George+W.+De+Long,+Lieutenant-commander+U.S.N.+and+Commander+of+the+Polar+Expedition+of+1879-1881&hl=en&sa=X&ei=JIZ4UciBHKXP2QWuwIHgDQ&ved=0CDIQ6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=The%20Voyage%20of%20the%20Jeannette%3A%20The%20Ship%20and%20Ice%20Journals%20of%20George%20W.%20De%20Long%2C%20Lieutenant-commander%20U.S.N.%20and%20Commander%20of%20the%20Polar%20Expedition%20of%201879-1881&f=false)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Randi on 25 April 2013, 03:10:52
As noted above, everything but date and location (if they appear on the Events page) is optional.
Just remember that duplicate information from the Events page doesn't hurt!
It is far better that two or three people transcribe the data than that everyone assumes that someone else has done it ;)
With the challenge of reading some of the names of people, places (http://forum.oldweather.org/index.php?topic=1229.msg65772#msg65772) and ships multiple interpretations can be very useful ;D

(You do realize that ocd can mean obsessive compulsive disorder don't you?)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: AvastMH on 25 April 2013, 03:29:27
Hi paging500,
When the Jeanette started out she had sheets and sheets and sheeeeeets of provisions (including one crow's nest AND nine and a half door handles?!?). I did the transcription and jil (and many more) checked them for me. Whilst three out of three agreeing is wonderful there are times when, especially if it's just history stuff, a bit of creative time use is helpful to get past these stodgy paperwork moments that all ships seem to have. Crew lists are a fairly obvious case in hand.
Carry on number 1!  8)
Joan  ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Steeleye on 27 April 2013, 03:55:22
When I read the entry on this Princess Royal log page (http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ADM53-55960/ADM53-55960-055_1.jpg (http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ADM53-55960/ADM53-55960-055_1.jpg)) that says:
10.0 Wesleyans to New Zealand.

My sense of the absurd thinks: "I wonder if they made it back to Princess Royal in time for lunch'.

 ::)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: studentforever on 27 April 2013, 08:18:19
 ;) ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Kevin on 27 April 2013, 14:16:23
One take on the 'navigator's days work':

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Navigation#Day.27s_work_in_navigation
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 28 April 2013, 04:18:39
Greetings from  Winton, Queensland (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Winton,_Queensland). Dinosaur capital of Australia.  Age of Dinosaurs Center  (http://australianageofdinosaurs.com/aa-visit-us.php)
32/19C today. 33/16C at Mount Isa Tomorrow.
Enjoy the cold whilst you can.
Sorry not much OW going on having travelling 2800KM in the last 10 days.
You can tell the boss is not with me.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Kathy on 28 April 2013, 11:36:43
IT IS A VERY SMALL WORLD!

At church today, we had as a guest preacher, a Dominican sister, Elaina, Elana, (I'm not sure how she spells her name) and she has meet our very own Helen Julian!  :o They were at a conference in San Francisco and Elana said one of the things she remembers best from that conference is the British high tea they had one afternoon.  I just had a feeling she would know Helen J. and so I asked her, and sure enough she does!

 :o
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: AvastMH on 28 April 2013, 19:37:31
Oh that's a small world alright! Wonderfully small though! What a co-incidence.  You must have so pleased Kathy! ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Helen J on 29 April 2013, 08:10:01
I've had a whole fortnight of 'small world' moments, so somehow I'm not at all surprised! 

I've been away in a small Shropshire town, where I've never been before in my life.  The first week I stayed with someone who had been brought up about a mile from me in Edinburgh; the second week with someone who had been brought up a few houses away from our community house in Birmingham.  One of her daughters had studied at the same college as me about 10 years after me, and did the same course that I'd done.

At the final service I sat next to an elderly woman who asked me afterwards 'are you a Franciscan?' and when I said I was told me her brother was too - he's one of our brothers, originally from England, who now lives in New Zealand.  Despite living so far away, I have actually met him several times.

It is indeed a small and very connected world!
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Dean on 29 April 2013, 08:10:42
Greetings from Wilson, New York. S/V Viking Too launched and masted this weekend! ;D ;D

A couple more hours of rigging and tuning and we shall try for the first sail of the season later this week. :D

If you want to check out her home port:     http://www.wilsonnewyork.com/webcam.htm

I'm off in the distance to the left of the long channel so you can't see my dock from the camera. :-[
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Kathy on 29 April 2013, 08:32:32
 ;D
I drive my family crazy, because I can't seem to go anywhere, even a hotel in Ljubljana, Slovenia without running into someone I know or someone who turns out to know someone I know -
 
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: AvastMH on 29 April 2013, 09:21:46
 ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Thursday Next on 29 April 2013, 14:26:03
Breaking Bee News!  The EU has agreed to suspend for two years the use of pesticides which are suspected of killing bees  ;D - though sorry to hear the UK's environment minister voted against the measure >:(
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: AvastMH on 29 April 2013, 14:43:33
(http://img547.imageshack.us/img547/5503/as5629.gif)


Yeh! At last good news for the bees! (but SHAME on the UK minister)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Helen J on 29 April 2013, 15:08:14
What a wonderfully happy looking bee!  It's excellent news, even if our government once again makes me want to hold my head in my hands ....
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: studentforever on 29 April 2013, 15:50:59
They do have one good argument - will the replacement chemicals be even worse.  Blame the regime for pesticide testing - they test for the chemical killing the bees but don't look very assiduously for longer term, non-lethal effects.  These seem to damage the bees and the early death is more incidental than a direct effect.

There are times I despair of this world, more and more humans wanting to consume ever more per person and a finite world with less and less space for any other species.  It's almost a relief to have no children as hostages for the future.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Randi on 29 April 2013, 16:36:20
...
There are times I despair of this world, more and more humans wanting to consume ever more per person and a finite world with less and less space for any other species.  It's almost a relief to have no children as hostages for the future.

Same here.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: AvastMH on 29 April 2013, 17:23:23
They do have one good argument - will the replacement chemicals be even worse.  Blame the regime for pesticide testing - they test for the chemical killing the bees but don't look very assiduously for longer term, non-lethal effects.  These seem to damage the bees and the early death is more incidental than a direct effect.   AAAAAGghhh - Nightmare - didn't think of that - oh dear

There are times I despair of this world, more and more humans wanting to consume ever more per person and a finite world with less and less space for any other species.  It's almost a relief to have no children as hostages for the future.  Same for me too!
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Tegwen on 29 April 2013, 17:39:07
I am sure that some of the problems I have had with my bees over the last few years are due to Neonicotinoids. They seem to have so many effects at sub lethal doses. All beekeepers are saying that things such as colonies going queenless, or apparantly healthy hives dying off suddenly etc are most likely to be pesticides such as Neonics.

Bee colonies can survive losing a few bees each day, that is understood and built into their survival strategy, but chemicals that affect their behaviour in unexpected ways may well be worse.

The only way forward is to increase the proportion of organic agriculture.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Maikel on 30 April 2013, 04:15:08
Speaking of queens, since about 10.15 a.m. C.E.T., after being a 'Queendom' for 123 years, The Netherlands is a Kingdom again after the abdication of Queen Beatrix and the coronation of King Willem-Alexander.

Or, how 'Prins Pils' became 'Koning Krat'.

When Willem-Alexander was a student 'Prins Pils' (Prince Pilsner) became his nickname for his, let's say, enthusiasm in participating in student live.
Has he grown up to be 'Koning Krat' (King Beer Crate)? :P

Or if you believe in fairy tales, or for the more romantically inclined, how an Argentinian girl is now allowed to carry the title Queen of The Netherlands.

Not having a queen after such a long time will take some time to get used to.
The first presenter as been signalled mentioning Queen Willem-Alexander. :o

And no more Queensday on 30 April.
From now on it will be Kingsday and will be celebrated on the king's birthday 27 April.
Unless it's a Sunday, then it will be celebrated a day earlier.
Like next year. :)
The format will most probably the same, so come over to enjoy the festivities. :D

And to keep in the OW tradition: At 9 a.m. Hr. Ms. Evertsen fired 101 shots to salute King Willem-Alexander.
It took 8 minutes to fire all shots.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 30 April 2013, 07:19:51
Good life and luck to your new king, Maikel
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Randi on 30 April 2013, 08:38:11
Quote
Not having a queen after such a long time will take some time to get used to.
The first presenter as been signalled mentioning Queen Willem-Alexander. :o

 ;D

By the time they get used to having a king, it will be back to a queen ;)

Best wishes to them all!
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: AvastMH on 30 April 2013, 09:58:07
Hope it has been an enjoyable swap-over day on the regnant front! It looked to be a very dignified hand-over. Let's hope that the new king outlives his beer drinking early days..he looks like a fairly regular family sort of guy these days. Any chance you could persuade her retired majesty to spend a bit of time on OW?  ;) ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Maikel on 30 April 2013, 10:51:58
The next time I'll meet them, I'll pass on your wishes and requests. ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Kathy on 30 April 2013, 11:04:09
As someone who has children, I don't see them so much as hostages to the future, but rather as hope for the future -
 ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: studentforever on 30 April 2013, 13:44:50
It was more despair over what sort of world would they inherit.

 :( :(
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Thursday Next on 30 April 2013, 14:36:35
Does anyone know if there is some sort of device you can buy so that you can see through a cat?  I sometimes (like now!) have terrible problems trying to see my computer screen!  It's no good shooshing him off, because he just comes straight back!
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: AvastMH on 30 April 2013, 15:22:27
Awwwwww...cute! :-* :-* :-*
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Helen J on 30 April 2013, 16:00:15
He's trying to assist you with your addiction - let him help you!
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Craig on 30 April 2013, 16:35:39
You need a cat scan  :D
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Randi on 30 April 2013, 18:02:23
 :P
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 01 May 2013, 03:38:27
Joan was spotted today in Townsville QLD hiding on the Pandora.   ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: AvastMH on 01 May 2013, 04:05:22
Was I?  :o 8)  Well -I often feel like I need to be in two places at once.. ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 01 May 2013, 07:42:31
Opps, forgot the picture.   :-[
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: AvastMH on 01 May 2013, 08:04:41
 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Sorry about the state of deshabille folks  - obviously it's still a bit warmer south of the equator...strategically placed box helps to hide a bit of myself, I quite liked that hair colour though.   ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 01 May 2013, 16:50:20
That's 'Pandoras box'.
The Pandora went in search of the mutineers from the Bounty.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: AvastMH on 01 May 2013, 16:59:45
And you just wait until I find those naughty mutineers - it'll be early to bed and no breadfruit for a week...... >:( ( ;D)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 03 May 2013, 04:30:59
This is what you call a flood.
Note the level at the bottom of the pole (13 Mtrs) that is above the flood zero mark of the river.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: szukacz on 03 May 2013, 15:14:23
 :o
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Craig on 03 May 2013, 18:56:49
They should put such markers in flood plains where city officals have given into developers and allowed building. This might make people think twice before buying there.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Dean on 04 May 2013, 19:21:15
Summer is 'officially' here! ;D

S/V Viking Too had her sails bent on, decks holystoned, crew mustered, prepared for sea, and got her first sail in today.  ;D ;D ;D

Wind swung NE at 3 weather b and with 400 miles (644km) of fetch and water temps on Lake Ontario at 42?F (5?C) it got a bit chilly.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 04 May 2013, 19:31:41
A lovely start to summer.  I'm glad you enjoyed it.  :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 05 May 2013, 03:05:42
House for sale. Free flow air conditioning for summer, going cheap.
I don't think this was a 'con trail'
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: AvastMH on 05 May 2013, 06:45:09
Great house...but if any rain falls on that tim roof I'm not sure there are ear defenders stern enough to withstand the decibels. ;D ;D

Are you in that bit of Oz that has those huge long cloud rolls? 
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 06 May 2013, 02:34:56
After watching the Con trails today I think it may have been one after all.
This is pic certainly not a con trail.
What type of cloud is it. Cirrus?
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: AvastMH on 06 May 2013, 06:44:28
the long wispy stiff is cirrus - also known as 'mares' tails-and this certainly looks like those..lovely example. ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Maikel on 06 May 2013, 10:14:27
Today is St George's Day (dragons beware!) and is therefore the traditional day on which dandelion heads are picked to make dandelion wine.  I made dandelion wine once...can't remember drinking it - nor can anyone else who imbibed its delicious sweetness...but we did live to tell the tale of how we forgot it. ;D

Today I cycled past a pasture and couldn't help but think of Joan. :)
Perhaps I should dub it Joan's Heaven or Joan's Dream. :D
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: AvastMH on 06 May 2013, 15:57:31
Oh Noooooooooooooooooo! My internet has gone crunchy and I can't get into the picture....wwwwaaaaahhh! :'(

I'll try later/tomorrow - it SOUNDS like a lovely day!  Thanks Maikel! ;D ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: AvastMH on 06 May 2013, 16:11:29
Hurrah! GOT IT!   And there's a lot of dandelion wine could be made from those....beautiful sunny heads in some rich looking grass. And, coming from Essex, pleasantly flat.  ;D ;D  Thank you!  8)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Craig on 07 May 2013, 08:10:26
The most boring job has got to be the Tide Observer for the Yukon. They drop him off in some desolate place in the morning while they go and do their soundings, and pick him up in the evening. For 12 hours he observes the tides. Perhaps he composed poems as well or perhaps a novel about tides and mermaids. Or maybe he was thinking about general relativity. (This was 1923). He probably noted that time passes much more slowly when observing tides. It probably wasn't very warm in Alaska, even in July, judging by other logs (these guys don't appear to have a thermometer). I wonder if it was always the same one who got the job. "OK, Henry, see you in 12 hours. If you spot any submarines, don't forget to record them. Have you got your pen with waterproof ink? If we don't come back tonight don't be alarmed - we'll get you tomorrow if we can find this spot again - ha ha, just kidding. Oops, almost forgot, here's your lunch. If that's not enough I hear the seaweed is especially tasty in these parts. See ya later".
 
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: AvastMH on 07 May 2013, 09:04:51
I was inspired by your beautiful mental picture to steal these words Craig:

With apologies to Samuel Taylor Coleridge, and all ancient mariners:

    Day after day, day after day,
    We stuck him on the beach, no motion,
    As idle as a tide-recorder
    Upon a tidal ocean.

    Water, water, every where,
    all froze, with sounds like 'clink';
    Water, water, every where,
    and too much time to think.

(Can you imagine going to see the careers officer at school...'sit down my boy', 'thanks', ' now tell me what you want to be when you grow up?' 'well, I think I'd like to be a tide recorder', ' Well that sounds commendable, carry on') ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Craig on 07 May 2013, 12:41:24
Great, Joan! I sure Sam wouldn't mind, but the wedding guest might still be beating his breast over career choices ;D

How about this one:

There was a young man from Nebraska
Who shipped way up north to Alaska
The waves he did count
Coming in, going out
How boring is this, I do ask ya?

But such is life on this schooner
Sounding and marking the lunar
Imperial or metric
It?s so bloody hectic
Can?t we get home any sooner?

Randi, feel free to move this to the doggerel thread  ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: AvastMH on 07 May 2013, 13:02:10
Nice one Craig. So much poetry - it's almost like being on The Rodgers again... ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Kathy on 10 May 2013, 09:59:05
This should perhaps go in the addiction thread  -

this is my anniversary present from my husband -
(http://i1229.photobucket.com/albums/ee462/Pwendolk/th_ACBD2BB5-D972-48FC-8D17-CE91A81B097B-872-0000015AEA5723D8_zpsc465c102.jpg) (http://s1229.photobucket.com/user/Pwendolk/media/ACBD2BB5-D972-48FC-8D17-CE91A81B097B-872-0000015AEA5723D8_zpsc465c102.jpg.html)

Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: propriome on 10 May 2013, 10:02:30
Woha... i was planning to buy a very similar present for my wife this evening (for no particular reason). Her last name can be roughly translated as 'Seamen'...

Now i'll need to take a photo of it and post it here :D :D
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Kathy on 10 May 2013, 10:16:01
 ;D

I don't think the crystals are real diamonds, but I love it -
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: AvastMH on 10 May 2013, 11:14:00
This should perhaps go in the addiction thread  -

this is my anniversary present from my husband -
(http://i1229.photobucket.com/albums/ee462/Pwendolk/th_ACBD2BB5-D972-48FC-8D17-CE91A81B097B-872-0000015AEA5723D8_zpsc465c102.jpg) (http://s1229.photobucket.com/user/Pwendolk/media/ACBD2BB5-D972-48FC-8D17-CE91A81B097B-872-0000015AEA5723D8_zpsc465c102.jpg.html)

Awww -that's lovely, and very thoughtful of him to feed your addiction.!
J ;D ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: studentforever on 10 May 2013, 12:16:12
You'll have to wear it to any OW functions you attend or any talks you give.  Sounds like a supportive mate.

 :) :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Thursday Next on 10 May 2013, 12:39:00
That's lovely, Kathy.  It's not easy to find really nice, nautical-themed jewellery - I know, I've looked!  (Perhaps I should also be in the Addictions thread!)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Randi on 10 May 2013, 14:51:43
 ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Randi on 10 May 2013, 14:59:29
Woha... i was planning to buy a very similar present for my wife this evening (for no particular reason). Her last name can be roughly translated as 'Seamen'...

That's the best reason of all!
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 11 May 2013, 00:45:45
He still lurks in the background.

http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Concord/vol015of040/vol015of040_218_1.jpg (http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Concord/vol015of040/vol015of040_218_1.jpg)

At 2:15 made the Bunting Islands.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Randi on 11 May 2013, 02:17:51
As of last night FF was still working normally for me.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: propriome on 11 May 2013, 14:17:24
A little late (and the picture is a little dark), but here is my version: :D
(http://imageshack.us/a/img843/5716/cam00017i.jpg)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Kathy on 11 May 2013, 14:29:35
Very nice!  Did she like it?

Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: propriome on 11 May 2013, 15:38:08
Yes... she liked it very much (and I should get her presents more often - she really deserve them) :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: AvastMH on 11 May 2013, 15:47:39
He still lurks in the background.

http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Concord/vol015of040/vol015of040_218_1.jpg (http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Concord/vol015of040/vol015of040_218_1.jpg)

At 2:15 made the Bunting Islands.
:'( :'( :'(       Still miss him
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Randi on 11 May 2013, 15:52:33
Me too :'(
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 11 May 2013, 16:39:29
Happy Mothers Day to everybody it applies to.

I have no idea what todays Google thing is about. Something to do with presents? You click one of the pictures on the left and things happen.   ???

Question. Is there a Singles Day? (or is that held on International Day of Peace  ;D )
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Dean on 11 May 2013, 19:17:14
Google here is just plain old Google??!! :-\
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Kathy on 11 May 2013, 19:27:04
Where is he?   :(
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 11 May 2013, 23:01:16
It must not be today where you are yet.
12 May 2013
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Randi on 12 May 2013, 03:13:57
In France, Florist's Mother's Day is the 26'th of May
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 12 May 2013, 05:47:03
Florists Good one.  ;D
OK, try www.google.com.au (http://www.google.com.au)
Yes, Mothering Sunday is on some other day in England and probably elsewhere, but the sentiment was there.   :(

Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: AvastMH on 12 May 2013, 05:58:27
It's a steampunk mother's day card - very a la mode!  I like it!! ;D ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: studentforever on 12 May 2013, 07:16:45
Traditionally in Britain Mothering Sunday is in lent so the date varies each year as Easter is a lunar festival (the first full moon after the spring equinox).
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 12 May 2013, 08:14:13
The Doodle is a Rube Goldberg contraption (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rube_Goldberg_machine) to allow children to generate a mother's day card.  Lots of different steps to get there.  Cute.  :D


(http://www.webmastergrade.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/Happy-Mother-Day.jpg)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Dean on 12 May 2013, 16:10:00
It's a steampunk mother's day card - very a la mode!  I like it!! ;D ;D

Where is he?   :(

He (I) are in western New York State and forgot that some of you are tomorrow before the rest of us!!!!! ::)

Happy Mother's Day to all who deserve!!!!! :D :D :D :D :D
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Kathy on 12 May 2013, 18:04:38
I'm sorry - I was referring to Bunts - in reply to an earlier post.  I hope he is ok.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Dean on 13 May 2013, 00:21:57
Last I heard - maybe 3 months ago - he said he was 'very involved' with helping 'someone' with 'something' and wouldn't be around for a while. I know he's been thought of by many of us and been mentioned at times by several of us 'old folks.'

A couple times people who knew him said they'd check but I don't remember them ever coming back here to tell us what they found.

I DO hope he's OK - we miss him!!  :'(
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Kathy on 15 May 2013, 11:40:16
I don't know if ya'll have seen this - way cool!

https://www.youtube.com/tv?vq=medium#/watch?v=KaOC9danxNo&mode=transport
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Dean on 15 May 2013, 16:13:29
I don't know if ya'll have seen this - way cool!

https://www.youtube.com/tv?vq=medium#/watch?v=KaOC9danxNo&mode=transport

Chris has been ISS Commander for the last 6 months and came home yesterday! He is QUITE the musician and has been VERY active on TV getting people interested in Space. Being just across the border here we get the Canadian News and have watched quite a bit of Chris's stuff.  FASCINATING!! ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Steeleye on 16 May 2013, 05:28:41
I have just been watching our nightly news on SBS television, which could roughly be described as our multicultural channel (their catch-phrase is: 'News from home if you live in the world').

I see that our colleagues down Devon way are buried under snow and suffering 100 km/h winds again.

May I respectfully suggest that, as summer is almost upon you, you consider ordering in some civilised weather?

 :-*
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Randi on 16 May 2013, 06:33:55
I haven't used Lighthouse Depot for a long time, and this link http://www.lighthousedepot.com/lite_explorer.asp?bhcd2=1295510891 takes me to GoDaddy dot com.
Does the site still exist?

Thanks!
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: propriome on 16 May 2013, 06:53:50
Nope, Randi  :(

When a site brings you to a registrar like godaddy, it generally means the site does not exist anymore.

According to whois data, the domain name has been last updated by godaddy on 20 March 2013, probably the time of site closure, and has been renewed until 07 July 2015.

Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 16 May 2013, 07:05:29
It is gone.  http://www.cafepress.com/+lighthouse-depot-wells-maine+gifts?utm_medium=cpc&utm_term=lighthouse-depot-wells-maine&utm_source=google&utm_campaign=AKE-2013-01-All-T&utm_content=search-e

I've removed it from the Helpful Links list.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Thursday Next on 16 May 2013, 11:54:41
I have just been watching our nightly news on SBS television, which could roughly be described as our multicultural channel (their catch-phrase is: 'News from home if you live in the world').

I see that our colleagues down Devon way are buried under snow and suffering 100 km/h winds again.

May I respectfully suggest that, as summer is almost upon you, you consider ordering in some civilised weather?

 :-*

I don't know if there are any other OWers in Devon, but I didn't get any snow here in Exeter - it was flipping cold for the time of year though, and we had very heavy rain here on Tuesday.  I think the snow was confined to the moors.  I did also record my lowest barometric pressure since records began - 981 millibars/29.0 inches.  (I should perhaps add that my records only began in February this year! ::) )  If anyone knows who I need to ask to get in some more appropriate weather for May, please let me know!
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: AvastMH on 16 May 2013, 13:55:13
Well - the Great Bard himself said 'rough winds do shake the darling buds of May'. Though I'm guessing that Shakespeare didn't have howling water laden hurican'oes shaking his darling May buds. I'm determined NOT to put my heating back on, but I've been sat in my overcoat at work this week - and home has scarcely been better. Anyone want to buy a small bbq? Or would swap for a ticket to the warmer zones of the world.... ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: studentforever on 16 May 2013, 15:57:06
Well, a saying from my Cheshire childhood was 'Ne'er cast a clout 'til May is out'.  My mother used to say she could remember a snow shower on Derby Day, I think in 1947 or 8, and that is the beginning of June.  I would like some summer this year though.  We had about 3 weeks in April last year and more or less went into Autumn.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Dean on 16 May 2013, 16:11:04
Around here we say 'April showers bring May Flowers and Mayflowers bring PILGRIMS!' ::)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Kathy on 16 May 2013, 16:11:57
We went from the 40s in the morning to the 80s in the afternoon yesterday - I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO WEAR!
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 16 May 2013, 16:18:32
LAYERS! ;D

Leave the house warmly dressed.
Mid-morning, shed the coat.
Noon, shed the sweater.
Mid-afternoon, shed the long-sleeved shirt, leaving the sleeveless blouse on.
Notice that your arms are aching, carrying around all the above layers and wish for more consistent weather. ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Kathy on 16 May 2013, 16:23:29
 ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Dean on 17 May 2013, 07:13:02
We also have a saying in western New York (and I'm sure elsewhere!)

 'If you don't like the weather - wait 10 minutes and it will change!' ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 17 May 2013, 07:47:29
Now that one applies to Chicago! ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: AvastMH on 17 May 2013, 08:19:06
Well, a saying from my Cheshire childhood was 'Ne'er cast a clout 'til May is out'.  My mother used to say she could remember a snow shower on Derby Day, I think in 1947 or 8, and that is the beginning of June.  I would like some summer this year though.  We had about 3 weeks in April last year and more or less went into Autumn.

I was brought up with that one too!  Apparently it's not May month, but May blossom that has to be 'out' before you cast your clout (quick translation for all those who left on the Mayflower and left Ye Olde Englishe behind, clout = 'cloth' or 'coat'). The May blossom is not out here yet - it's very late this year.
I've no doubt your mum was right about Derby Day - first year I lived in Oxford (1979) it snowed on Monday June ?1st. But by the end of the week we were all back in t-shirts and shorts. Mad place! ;D ::)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: studentforever on 17 May 2013, 08:23:42
Typical UK weather - 3 seasons in one day (in random order).
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Thursday Next on 17 May 2013, 12:36:10
I know it snowed on Derby Day the year Hermit won (1867) - and, no, I don't actually remember it!  I had a quick look on line and couldn't find any mention of more recent occurrences, though of course that doesn't mean it hasn't happened.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Helen J on 17 May 2013, 13:09:09
A good bit further north - but I can remember snow one year on my birthday - which is June 1st.  I don't suppose it's been mentioned as a notable event though ....
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Caro on 17 May 2013, 21:05:07
Hello everyone.
I've been catching up on the UK weather news ... http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-leeds-16302606
 :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 18 May 2013, 04:09:24
A good bit further north - but I can remember snow one year on my birthday - which is June 1st.  I don't suppose it's been mentioned as a notable event though ....

It has now.     ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 18 May 2013, 04:11:15
Hello everyone.
I've been catching up on the UK weather news ... http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-leeds-16302606
 :)

Nice show of Lenies.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Randi on 18 May 2013, 07:44:38
21 euphemisms that readers grew up with - http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-22552326

Quote
16. Having served in the Royal Navy for 33 years, I heard many euphemisms but one that particularly springs to mind is wardroom fire party. The wardroom is the officers' mess and the fire party is a team of fire-fighting and damage repair specialists on constant duty on board a vessel (one team in each watch). There is a feeling amongst many senior and junior ratings (ratings are non-officers in a ship) that anything resembling a foul-up or complete mess can seem akin to the wardroom providing the fire party - they would be absolutely hopeless and clueless as to what to do. For example, if a ship was to suffer a major incident or machinery breakdown and was floundering or in danger, then the situation could be described as being like a wardroom fire party. Stephen A Bielby, Lee-on-the-Solent, UK



I gather that the officers were not always held in the highest esteem - at least not where practical matters were involved ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: studentforever on 18 May 2013, 08:18:31
Sounds just like the shop floor's view of managers, especially those who have never got their hands dirty.

 ;) ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: AvastMH on 18 May 2013, 09:13:20
clearly the precursors to the chocolate teapot ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Dean on 19 May 2013, 07:40:09
Received this from a friend. It's Sooooooooo bad I had to share!!!! ::)


Most people don't know that back in 1912, Hellmann's mayonnaise was
manufactured in England .  In fact, the Titanic was carrying 12,000 jars of
the condiment scheduled for delivery in Vera Cruz, Mexico , which was to be
the next port of call for the great ship after its stop in New York .  This
would have been the largest single shipment of mayonnaise ever delivered to
Mexico .  But as we know, the great ship did not make it to New York .  The
ship hit an iceberg and sank.  The people of Mexico , who were crazy about
mayonnaise, and were eagerly awaiting its delivery, were disconsolate at the
loss.  Their anguish was so great, that they declared a National Day of
Mourning.

The National Day of Mourning occurs each year on May 5th and is known, of
course, as -

  Sinko De Mayo.
WHAT ???  You expected something educational ?. :P
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 19 May 2013, 08:00:04
 ::) ;D ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: AvastMH on 19 May 2013, 09:08:49
oh Dean....that's a truly cheesy joke! Made me laugh though!  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Randi on 19 May 2013, 10:51:35
 ::) :P ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Kathy on 19 May 2013, 12:33:34
 ;D :P
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Craig on 20 May 2013, 10:11:44
Are you having a spot of tea in honour of Queen Victoria today in England, or is this just a colonial carry-over for us in Canada? In Quebec, where there is no fondness for these traditions - c'est la journ?e des patriotes.

This is traditionally the weekend when we put in our tomotoes and other warm-weather crops. It has been the average annual start of frost-free weather - we almost had a frost last week and I have been bringing my seedlings indoors at night.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Thursday Next on 20 May 2013, 10:30:19
No, definitely not having tea in honour of Queen Victoria, I'm afraid.  Not heard of it being celebrated in the UK.  According to my calendar it is specifically Canadian, so you'll have to raise a glass to her on our behalf!
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Helen J on 20 May 2013, 15:32:44
In Scotland when I was growing up there was still a Victoria Day holiday around this time - but always on a Monday I think.  I gather it still happens a bit, but tends to get swallowed up in the various May bank holidays which have come into vogue more recently.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Dean on 20 May 2013, 19:18:40
I had to share (and/or brag!) at 1050AM this morning the knot meter went from 999.00 to 000.00.

This means that S/V Viking Too and I have sailed 7000 miles together.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Craig on 20 May 2013, 19:25:14
All 7000 on lake Ontario, Dean?
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 20 May 2013, 19:38:01
Now that is a solid, long-term friendship!!
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 20 May 2013, 21:13:11
Please pray for the dead in Oklahoma.  An EF-5 that was 2 miles wide at one point went through the town of Moore this afternoon, at least 51 dead and still looking, including 7 children in an elementary school it destroyed.
http://www.cnn.com/2013/05/20/us/oklahoma-tornado-developments
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: AvastMH on 21 May 2013, 04:14:21
Terrible scenes there Janet. Very sad to see them, very sad indeed. They are my thoughts.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Thursday Next on 21 May 2013, 13:28:28
A terrible tragedy, indeed.  The only good thing to report is that, according to the news bulletin I heard at 5pm UK time, the death toll has been revised down to 24.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 21 May 2013, 14:48:17
The same afternoon, they were asking the workers, and trying to add it all up.  Later, after the bodies had had time to travel to the coroner's office, they asked that office for a clear body count.  The really good news is the elementary schools.  One of them had time to put everyone in a safe room which survived the building being flattened.  The other more tragic school with 7 known dead, they thought 20 children were still lost in the wreckage - 16 of them were found in various churches and shelters were strangers had taken them to wait in safety. 

Oklahoma is not a gentle place to live.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Craig on 22 May 2013, 06:14:21
Looks like our Russian friend wasn't serious about OW.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 22 May 2013, 06:30:59
I don't know what kind of attraction we would have for her.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: oldstudent on 22 May 2013, 06:53:43
Just to add more info to the question about Queen Victoria and her tea party.  (For experienced forum members I was studentforever but have now appeared in a new incarnation as oldstudent after a nightmare with the password reset.)  In Glasgow, at least, the last Monday in May was known as 'Queen's Birthday' holiday.  Different parts of Scotland had this break at different times though, this caused me great confusion when I first came up north - I arrived home from work to find the local shops closed although I had taken my Monday break the week before!
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Craig on 22 May 2013, 07:04:53
The reset has aged you that much, Sue?  :o  Usually a reset puts things back to the initial conditions  ;D

I live on the border between two cultures so it can be confusing at times to know which holidays are being observed. The good thing (or bad, depending on your point of view) is that if the stores are closed in one province they are likely to be open in the other (except for Christmas and Easter).
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: oldstudent on 22 May 2013, 08:18:05
No Craig, I am not Sue but in UK terms I qualify for a bus pass.  I believe in lifelong learing and delaying the dementia symptoms as long as possible.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Craig on 22 May 2013, 09:06:00
Sorry. It must be Thursday next who is Sue, oldstudent. I'm the one with dementia symptoms. I reverted to my real name on OW so that I could remember who I am  ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: oldstudent on 22 May 2013, 09:10:45
I know the feeling.  Yesterday when I was trying to circumvent the system I went through so many identities, passwords, addresses etc that I was suffering from multiple personality disorder.  Randi is trying to sort me out.  May be reverting, may have to stick with the latest incarnation.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: studentforever on 22 May 2013, 11:06:01
Arfon has waved his magic wand and I am back as my first OW incarnation - studentforever.  I now feel much more settled without the necessity to establish my new identity.  Great to see you all again!
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Craig on 22 May 2013, 11:18:39
Congratulations! You look much younger already :D
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Thursday Next on 22 May 2013, 12:51:32
Sorry. It must be Thursday next who is Sue, oldstudent. I'm the one with dementia symptoms. I reverted to my real name on OW so that I could remember who I am  ;D

Yes, it is Thursday Next who is Su - and I also qualify for a bus pass.  It is interesting that you are not the first Forum member to get myself and studentforever momentarily confused - I wonder why that is?
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Kathy on 22 May 2013, 13:10:11
We seem to have picked up a few members who aren't interested in ships - I think I'll pass on the hemorrhoid advice and shopping tips recently posted  ;D
 ;D  :P
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Craig on 22 May 2013, 13:18:08

Yes, it is Thursday Next who is Su - and I also qualify for a bus pass.  It is interesting that you are not the first Forum member to get myself and studentforever momentarily confused - I wonder why that is?
[/quote]

Next Thursday is forever when you're a student.  ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Randi on 22 May 2013, 13:31:57
We are being barraged by spammers.

Don't be afraid to click on the Report to moderator.
Tell us if it looks suspicious even if you don't SEE any links.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Kathy on 22 May 2013, 13:39:15
The posts seem to be gone - did a Mod remove them?
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Randi on 22 May 2013, 13:42:17
yes - that's about all I have done this afternoon - it makes washing dishes look good :P
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 22 May 2013, 13:44:52
Big time yes - what Randi says.  I estimate we've caught 3 dozen or so in the last 24 hours.  And all the Zooniverse forums are being bombarded.  Having members click Report to moderator helps alot - having the posts disappear is a sign of our success at eliminating them.  They are starting to slow down, we aren't producing sales like they want.

Randi, let's take it in shifts - go have a peaceful evening.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Randi on 22 May 2013, 13:46:21
Thanks Janet - I'll be here a little bit longer then off to the kitchen
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: studentforever on 22 May 2013, 13:53:44
You are doing a great job keeping the forum clean for the rest of us.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Randi on 22 May 2013, 13:54:37
 :-*
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 22 May 2013, 14:18:09
 :)

Thank Arfon also, he's working on giving us a stronger gate in.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: studentforever on 22 May 2013, 15:07:50
The eternal problem, balancing friendliness and security.  OW is friendly so to an extent is vulnerable to the evil minded.  Thank goodness there are more of us than them.
 :-*
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Dean on 22 May 2013, 19:54:52
The eternal problem, balancing friendliness and security.  OW is friendly so to an extent is vulnerable to the evil minded.  Thank goodness there are more of us than them.
 :-*

And we shall CONTINUE to help each other and be eternally vigilant! ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Craig on 23 May 2013, 17:22:10
Here's a good article by Myles Alan http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/blog/2013/may/21/matt-ridley-joined-real-climate-debate

Matt Ridly is a fairly well informed climate skeptic with a passionate dislike of government intervention in the economy or in just about anything else. I read one of his books, The Origin of Virtue, which is pretty good if you make allowances for his libertarian bias. There is no bigger dilemma for a libertarian that to have to deal with a problem that can't be solved by the free market.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 23 May 2013, 18:49:31
And if the climate warming is over, how did he turn off all the additional carbon fuel engines being introduced in Asia and Africa?
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Craig on 23 May 2013, 20:06:17
He's betting on a low CO2 sensitivity.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Maikel on 26 May 2013, 09:55:48
From the logs of U.S.S. Yorktown:

Navy Yard workmen on board as follows: At 8, 3 in Engrs. Dept. came on board, 2 plumbers, 2 painters, 1 in Constr. who left ship at 9:30 returned at 10:20, 2 plumbers left ship at 8:45; 2 joiners working on dead-lights, 1 came at 8:00 and 1 at 9:15. 1 painter left ship at 9:45, 3 joiners left ship at 9:50 together with 1 painter, 1 joiner returned at 10 and 1 left at same time; 2 joiners working on dead-lights left at 10:00, 1 in Engr's Dept. left ship at 10:10, 2 painters + 1 in Engr. Dept. returned at 10:20, 2 joiners working on deadlights returned at 10:30, at 10:35, 2 joiners returned, 3 joiners returned at 10:40 together with 1 in Engr. Dept. At 10:45  joiner, 1 plumber, returned on board, 1 joiner returned at 10:30, 1 joiner left ship at 10:55: 2 in Engr. Dept. + 1 joiner left ship at 10:55, same time 1 joiner returned, 1 joiner + 1 plumber returned at 11:00, 2 plumbers left ship at 11:15.

Having typed the above, I couldn't help but think it was some school problem that would be followed by:
How many man-hours have the joiners been working on board? :)

Or perhaps something silly, like:
What colour was the ship? ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Randi on 26 May 2013, 10:41:35
 ;D

Gray?
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Post by: Maikel on 26 May 2013, 10:47:52
Sorry Randi, it's white. 8)
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Post by: AvastMH on 26 May 2013, 11:07:50
 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Excellent Maikel!

Also reminds me of Flanders and Swan 'The Gas Man Cometh'
Here's the unmissable, delightful, quite charming Lego version:
Gasman Lego (http://r8---sn-cu-ciml.c.youtube.com/videoplayback?upn=4saiHdqEGNw&ms=au&id=98e03f4942846511&itag=43&gcr=gb&sver=3&cp=U0hVTlZLUF9OUkNONV9ORVRBOmxxYlFKQUJMSldJ&mt=1369579887&source=youtube&expire=1369602098&key=yt1&ip=109.150.168.43&fexp=932706%2C924605%2C901208%2C929117%2C929123%2C929915%2C929906%2C925714%2C929119%2C931202%2C932802%2C928017%2C912518%2C911416%2C906906%2C904476%2C930807%2C919373%2C906836%2C933701%2C926403%2C912711%2C929606%2C910075&ratebypass=yes&ipbits=8&newshard=yes&mv=m&sparams=cp%2Cgcr%2Cid%2Cip%2Cipbits%2Citag%2Cratebypass%2Csource%2Cupn%2Cexpire&cpn=KGGS2BcPbFxfMZKq&signature=80C8393B6ECA8DEE3329C5F49A8F4396BF025AFC.02B58E9C8E0AD0A3962CB4D0A4B7744CB35819B2&ptk=EMI&oid=9qzya1R9XRzLksrgb2mhQg&pltype=contentugc)

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Post by: Randi on 26 May 2013, 11:08:57
 ::) :-[ :'(
 ;D
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Post by: studentforever on 26 May 2013, 15:34:22
Brings back happy memories!!
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Post by: szukacz on 26 May 2013, 15:51:44
 ;D LOL  ;D
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Post by: Pommy Stuart on 28 May 2013, 00:09:08
How come I have Janet J's Birthday down as the 28th May?
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Post by: Janet Jaguar on 28 May 2013, 01:45:00
How come I have Janet J's Birthday down as the 28th May?

I have no idea, since it was celebrated timely on April 22nd.  A special milestone this year, turning 65. :)
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Post by: Pommy Stuart on 28 May 2013, 02:36:38
Entry amended.
I join you at 65 in about 5 weeks and I will not be able to call Janeece the 'Old Lady' for another 6 months.  ;D
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Post by: studentforever on 28 May 2013, 03:03:53
You youngsters!
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Post by: Janet Jaguar on 28 May 2013, 03:24:10
 ;D
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Post by: Dean on 28 May 2013, 08:48:04
How come I have Janet J's Birthday down as the 28th May?

I have no idea, since it was celebrated timely on April 22nd.  A special milestone this year, turning 65. :)

Different Time Zone in Australia??!! ::) ;)
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Post by: Pommy Stuart on 28 May 2013, 15:58:10
Nice one Dean.  :P
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Post by: Dean on 29 May 2013, 13:56:49
I try 8)
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Post by: Pommy Stuart on 30 May 2013, 17:46:09
Nice Google for the 31 May.

Click the arrow, wait, then mouse over the dishes. Yuck.   :o
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Post by: Janet Jaguar on 30 May 2013, 19:59:16
gotta wait another 5 hours for it to arrive.  :)  But thanks for the notice, I like to catch the fun ones.
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Post by: AvastMH on 30 May 2013, 20:08:43
Mr Petri dishing it out... yeeeeuuurrrghhhh! Very clever - nice find Stuart :o  :P

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Post by: Caro on 31 May 2013, 01:55:25
Hello everyone.
Those Petri dishes are an unpleasant sight at 7 am. :P :)
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Post by: Pommy Stuart on 31 May 2013, 02:08:54
3rd from the left (yellow) is a worry.
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Post by: Dean on 31 May 2013, 07:48:14
One of my scientist friends used to come and teach my middle school Science classes how to culture specimens and then would have them swab their locker shelves. She'd come back a few days later and teach them what they found!

I had the cleanest lockers in the SCHOOL after that! ;D
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Post by: Hanibal94 on 31 May 2013, 10:41:33
One of my scientist friends used to come and teach my middle school Science classes how to culture specimens and then would have them swab their locker shelves. She'd come back a few days later and teach them what they found!

I had the cleanest lockers in the SCHOOL after that! ;D

That's what I call applied science!
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Post by: Janet Jaguar on 31 May 2013, 12:14:21
Applied science, and a serious life lesson.   8)
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Post by: Dean on 31 May 2013, 16:45:04
Applied science, and a serious life lesson.   8)

This was when there was a real push to keep girls interested in pursuing science. It was even more fun since I was NOT allowed to tell the kids anything about her except her name. She'd come in 'dressed to the nines' - talk to the kids for a bit, ask them what they thought she did (they'd say housewife, secretary, designer, model.....) , - and then she'd show them her 6 degrees and explain the she was DOCTOR Gail and I'd then tell them that she was a World Renowned Expert in Yeast and Yeast Genetics! Then she'd show them microscoped cultures, teach them how to make the dishes and then we'd do the locker thing.  GREAT fun!! Got the kids AND the girls VERY interested!! ;D ;D
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Post by: studentforever on 31 May 2013, 17:18:12
We had a project called WISE (women into science and engineering) and I remember doing SEM demos and simple estimates of skin extensibility round the knee joint and other such delights to visiting schoolgirls.  Don't know how many got the message - we were post-grad and so rather specialised.
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Post by: Craig on 01 June 2013, 11:29:54
Here is a very interesting short article referred to us in another thread by Philip . It describes the use of the earliest available UK log books from 1688 to 1700. There are no instrument data but it is surprising what can be deduced from the weather descriptions. This period is important because it coincides with the coldest phase of the Little Ice Age. Images of the typical log pages of the time are shown - they are quite recognizable to anyone doing OW. See the cute face figure for the sun.

http://www.meteohistory.org/2005historyofmeteorology2/10wheeler.pdf
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Post by: studentforever on 01 June 2013, 12:39:00
Ah well, noses back to the grindstone.  We will provide the grist for the climatological mill. even if we work our fingers to the bone, and rub off the symbols on our keyboards.
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Post by: Janet Jaguar on 01 June 2013, 13:15:54
Here is a very interesting short article referred to us in another thread by Philip . It describes the use of the earliest available UK log books from 1688 to 1700. There are no instrument data but it is surprising what can be deduced from the weather descriptions. This period is important because it coincides with the coldest phase of the Little Ice Age. Images of the typical log pages of the time are shown - they are quite recognizable to anyone doing OW. See the cute face figure for the sun.

http://www.meteohistory.org/2005historyofmeteorology2/10wheeler.pdf

That is cool.  Whatever were they notating in that narrow column that used astrological symbols and that smiley-face-sun?
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Post by: Craig on 01 June 2013, 13:56:59
The heading looks like "week days". Could these by the symbols for the days of the week? The 6th would be Sunday and the 7th Monday?  However, this site says June 6 1697 was a Wednesday using the Gregorian calendar. http://www.dayoftheweek.org/?m=June&d=26&y=1697&go=Go

Perhaps he was referencing his horoscope  ;D
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Post by: Janet Jaguar on 01 June 2013, 14:06:46
Wrong calendar.  That same article says, "...the Julian Calendar, which was then ten days behind the more accurate
Gregorian Calendar that was used across much of Europe. The latter was not adopted in England
until 1752."

6th June 1697 Julian would be 16th June 1697 Gregorian, which is a Sunday.

And yes, those are weekday symbols.
http://www.dglenn.org/defs/daysymbols.html
Thanks.  :)
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Post by: Thursday Next on 01 June 2013, 14:18:14
Happy Birthday, Helen!
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Post by: Randi on 01 June 2013, 14:42:36
Happy Birthday, Helen!
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Post by: studentforever on 01 June 2013, 15:34:29
Happy Birthday, Helen
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Post by: szukacz on 01 June 2013, 15:50:25
(http://supergify.pl/images/stories/Kwiatki/kwiatek__4_.gif)
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Post by: Helen J on 01 June 2013, 15:58:54
Thank you all for your birthday greetings - even the sun came out for it (at last) so it's been a good day.  I'm afraid I've been neglecting OW a bit lately; but term ends next week and I hope after that to be back a bit more regularly.
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Post by: Craig on 01 June 2013, 16:31:38
All the best, Helen!
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Post by: AvastMH on 01 June 2013, 16:31:54
Happy Birthday to you Helen!
:-* :-* :-*

(Can't get my font to go big - oh well!)
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Post by: Pommy Stuart on 01 June 2013, 17:02:49
Happy Birthday to you Helen from Joan & Stuart

:-* :-* :-*
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Post by: Pommy Stuart on 01 June 2013, 17:14:31
Here is a very interesting short article referred to us in another thread by Philip . It describes the use of the earliest available UK log books from 1688 to 1700. There are no instrument data but it is surprising what can be deduced from the weather descriptions. This period is important because it coincides with the coldest phase of the Little Ice Age. Images of the typical log pages of the time are shown - they are quite recognizable to anyone doing OW. See the cute face figure for the sun.

http://www.meteohistory.org/2005historyofmeteorology2/10wheeler.pdf

Did you see that they log was written in the first tense. I did this, I did that, also can you imagine the drop down box size to show:
(Monday 7th June.)
"~ hours at times much wind all around the compass and calms ~ and thunder, lightning and rain."
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 01 June 2013, 17:20:30
Happy Birthday, Helen

(http://www.smileyvault.com/albums/userpics/13911/0003~4.gif)
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Post by: Craig on 01 June 2013, 17:49:33

Did you see that they log was written in the first tense. I did this, I did that, also can you imagine the drop down box size to show:
(Monday 7th June.)
"~ hours at times much wind all around the compass and calms ~ and thunder, lightning and rain."

Yeah, I liked that "all around the compass" entry. I wonder if they entered "NSEW" or perhaps just Var. I hope they saved some of those logs for us to do.
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Post by: Pommy Stuart on 01 June 2013, 17:53:03
Sunday he entered "~ hours the wind Variable but small winds ........."
What was the difference between variable and all round the compass?  ???
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Post by: Craig on 01 June 2013, 19:24:35
It seems, however, that there was a good consistency in the use of terminology by mariners. The article shows how many of the wind force terms survived in the Beaufort scale. Too bad they dropped "stark calm", though. I think that is very evocative. And how do you like "a fret of wind", which is only one degree below "a storm"? "Fret" doesn't really pack much punch in my mind.
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Post by: Janet Jaguar on 01 June 2013, 19:30:14
It seems, however, that there was a good consistency in the use of terminology by mariners. The article shows how many of the wind force terms survived in the Beaufort scale. Too bad they dropped "stark calm", though. I think that is very evocative. And how do you like "a fret of wind", which is only one degree below "a storm"? "Fret" doesn't really pack much punch in my mind.

Could it be a corruption of "a fright of wind"?
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Post by: Dean on 01 June 2013, 20:10:38
Helen:

   Happy Birthday to you,
   Happy Birthday to you,
   Happy Birthday dear Hellllllllllllleeeeeeeennnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn,
   Happy Birthday to you!

Hope it's a happy one and that you get lots of neat presents!
Hope also you get to share with family! ;D
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Post by: AvastMH on 01 June 2013, 20:12:55
Happy Birthday to you Helen from Joan & Stuart

:-* :-* :-*

Cheers Stuart! That's more the ticket - a big happy birthday for our Helen! :D
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Craig on 01 June 2013, 20:34:56

Could it be a corruption of "a fright of wind"?

It's hard to hear you with all the birthday celebrations going on, Janet  ;D Did you say "a fright of wind"? You may be right. My Websters says that one of the many definitions of the word is "to become agitated", speaking of running water. But fright is certainly a good guess.

Happy birthday, again, Helen  ;)
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Post by: Janet Jaguar on 01 June 2013, 21:21:15
On this side of the pond it most often means to irritate or agitate, emotionally.  (She fretted over how to define this.)  But Webster's is much more.  I wonder if they were describing the effect on the sails.

Quote
Fret   Pronunciation: frĕt
v. t.   ...
2.   To rub; to wear away by friction; to chafe; to gall; hence, to eat away; to gnaw; as, to fret cloth; to fret a piece of gold or other metal; a worm frets the planks of a ship.
     With many a curve my banks I fret.
       - Tennyson.
3.   To impair; to wear away; to diminish.
     By starts His fretted fortunes give him hope and fear.
       - Shak.
4.   To make rough, agitate, or disturb; to cause to ripple; as, to fret the surface of water.
5.   To tease; to irritate; to vex.
     Fret not thyself because of evil doers.
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Post by: studentforever on 02 June 2013, 03:15:05
As a child I remember someone using 'sea-fret' to refer to the spray blown off the top of waves, sometimes called spume.
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Post by: Janet Jaguar on 02 June 2013, 06:11:31
That matches the older definitions, and also describes a violent state of the sea.  Interesting the things we learn, I'd have placed that word before to be only an emotion or things on guitar necks.
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Post by: Helen J on 02 June 2013, 13:58:44
More thanks for the worldwide birthday greetings - a wonderful part of the OW community!

And I too have heard of a sea fret, though I think it was more a sea mist ....
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Post by: Janet Jaguar on 02 June 2013, 14:10:54
so I looked up "sea fret" as a phrase:
Quote
the free dictionary
sea fret  n  (Earth Sciences / Physical Geography) a wet mist or haze coming inland from the sea

Bing search images "sea fret"

(http://www.ianforsythphotographer.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/Sea-fret-on-Saltburn-beach-007.jpg)

(http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3247/2887162994_9817fb5187_z.jpg)
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Post by: szukacz on 03 June 2013, 13:19:10
beautiful pictures
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Post by: Helen J on 03 June 2013, 15:50:10
Thanks Janet, for those very evocative pictures.  They take me back to childhood walks on the beach, usually in a chilly wind!
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Post by: Pommy Stuart on 03 June 2013, 18:08:27
Suggest you stay clear of the Concord as we have an outbreak of Varioloid on board. (14 Jan 1894.)   :o
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Post by: Janet Jaguar on 03 June 2013, 19:09:26
Ouch!!  Aside from being itchy, that has to be frightening.
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Post by: Caro on 04 June 2013, 03:54:50
Hello world.
News of the discovery of a particularly old fleet:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/2013/jun/04/eight-prehistoric-boats-bronze-age
 :o
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Post by: Tegwen on 04 June 2013, 04:53:35
Wow. Thanks for posting this Caro. That whole area is such a wonderful place for neolithic and bronze age artifacts, but these look very special. If you havent been there I can recommend a day out at Flag Fen, even without these new boats.

I expect that if they keep digging they will find the log books. Bags first at transcribing.  ;)

K
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Post by: Steeleye on 04 June 2013, 05:58:39
Some of the dialects could be a bit interesting.  Might need a new forum thread.

 8)
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Post by: Janet Jaguar on 04 June 2013, 07:38:18
If they find those logs, do we have to learn runes? ;D
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Post by: propriome on 04 June 2013, 07:53:46
If they find those logs, do we have to learn runes? ;D
It would be a challenging task indeed ;D ;D ;D
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Post by: Randi on 04 June 2013, 08:16:47
But we're up to it (we can recruit from Ancient Lives)!
I have some doubts about David Rumsey being able to supply maps though ;)
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Post by: AvastMH on 04 June 2013, 08:23:15
 ;D ;D ;D
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Post by: Kathy on 06 June 2013, 09:30:48
Hi Helen -

On Helen's 111 Birthday
I'm sorry this is so late,
but my brain has been taking a break -
I just wanted to say,
hope you had a fantastic Birthday -
and ate lots of chocolate cake!
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Post by: Craig on 06 June 2013, 11:34:34
This is an interesting article (and very readable).

http://www.carbonbrief.org/blog/2013/05/reducing-uncertainty-should-be-priority-in-climate-modelling,-say-scientists
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Post by: Helen J on 06 June 2013, 13:03:26
Hi Helen -

On Helen's 111 Birthday
I'm sorry this is so late,
but my brain has been taking a break -
I just wanted to say,
hope you had a fantastic Birthday -
and ate lots of chocolate cake!

Thanks Kathy - chocolate cake was indeed eaten, how did you guess!
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Post by: Steeleye on 06 June 2013, 16:06:10
Not terribly difficult Helen.  'Chocolate cake (or chocolate anything) and birthday' are practically synonymous, like 'Christmas and Christmas Tree'. ;D
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Post by: Kathy on 07 June 2013, 09:35:50
How could there not have been chocolate cake?  Did you not also share in the anguish of the Mantua?
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Post by: Helen J on 07 June 2013, 12:27:56
Oh, Kathy, indeed I did!  I still remember the angst of that posting ....
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Post by: jil on 07 June 2013, 14:57:21
Sitting in the garden with a Kir Royal - transcribing doesn't get better than this  ;D

(Must try not to spill alcohol on laptop!)
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Post by: Helen J on 08 June 2013, 14:29:54
Bit of a jump from sitting in the garden with a kir .... here's a poem by Jo Shapcott inspired by one of the ways in which those hunting for Franklin's expedition tried to make contact with them.  It's part of a project linking up poets with various museums in Cambridge and asking them each to write a poem inspired in some way by that museum.

http://www.thresholds.org.uk/museums-collections-poets/the-polar-museum/
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Post by: jil on 08 June 2013, 19:31:30
I was transcribing Jeanette, beset in the Arctic pack, so not as huge a leap as all that!

I remember hearing the Erebus play on Radio 4 and enjoying it then. Thanks for posting the link, I've just read a book about the attempts to find the NorthWest passage and was thinking I'd really like to listen to that play again.
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Post by: Kevin on 08 June 2013, 22:29:47
Off to the Danish Meteorological Institute in Copenhagen tomorrow. Giving a talk about something to do with Old Weather and other polar stuff.
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Post by: AvastMH on 09 June 2013, 05:27:40
Good luck and enjoy it Kevin!
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Post by: Pommy Stuart on 09 June 2013, 17:24:35
Nice Google Doodle coming up for those behind the times.    :D

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Post by: Caro on 10 June 2013, 03:55:56
We see it now, thank you Stuart.  :)
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Post by: AvastMH on 10 June 2013, 07:38:29
Charming, quite charming. Well done to the designer! :D :D
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Post by: Janet Jaguar on 10 June 2013, 08:04:48
Someone had a whole lot of fun making that one.  :D
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Post by: Caro on 11 June 2013, 03:11:36
Hello everyone. How's your weather?

This has amused/terrified me this morning.  :o
http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/bike-blog/2013/jun/10/penny-farthings-making-comeback
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Post by: AvastMH on 11 June 2013, 03:59:19
Imagine getting a flat on the front  :o :o :o
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Post by: Hanibal94 on 11 June 2013, 08:13:14
Don't forget the local fauna:
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Post by: Craig on 11 June 2013, 08:32:47
And you can only catch children!
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Caro on 11 June 2013, 08:39:05
Just three though.
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Post by: Janet Jaguar on 11 June 2013, 12:35:32
Why do I think that fishing sign was deliberately worded for the double reading?  :)

I love this one, found during general surfing.  Someone thinks birds are smart and educated?

(http://www.jumpthecurve.net/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/no-birds1.jpg)
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Post by: Helen J on 11 June 2013, 13:20:15
Love both of this pictures!  Where does the low flying owls one come from?  And given that they're mostly nocturnal, how does anyone know?
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Post by: Janet Jaguar on 11 June 2013, 18:20:22
Chicagoans know and love the bronze lion sculptures outside the Art Institute.
(http://ts4.mm.bing.net/th?id=H.4780660444171279&pid=1.7&w=198&h=164&c=7&rs=1)

Starting tomorrow, they are going to be supporting the Chicago Black Hawks push to win the Stanley Cup.  :)
Cheesy but fun.  :)

(http://www1.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/Art+Institute+Lions+Sport+Blackhawks+Helmets+8r0GdvxPNVVl.jpg)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 12 June 2013, 04:50:28
Hello everyone. How's your weather?

This has amused/terrified me this morning.  :o
http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/bike-blog/2013/jun/10/penny-farthings-making-comeback

Hi Caro. Try this site for Penny Farthings.
http://www.evandalevillagefair.com/ (http://www.evandalevillagefair.com/)
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Post by: Caro on 12 June 2013, 05:09:58
Looks like fun, Stuart. :o
The gallery is interesting ...

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Post by: philip.brohan on 12 June 2013, 11:14:10
I was pleased to discover that June 12th is 'Hug a Climate Scientist day' - http://www.ansto.gov.au/AboutANSTO/News/ACS016994 and http://ow.ly/i/2kXND

Everyone associated with oW is, of course, a climate scientist; so don't hesitate to remind your friends and relations to do their duty.

I'm not sure if there's an equivalent event for marine historians - but keep your eyes open, because we'd all qualify for that too.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: propriome on 12 June 2013, 11:30:52
 :D :D :D
Good to know! Will remember at once to my wife and relatives :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Caro on 12 June 2013, 12:37:32
Virtual hugs all round! 

(http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-hug008.gif) (http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys.php)
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Post by: jil on 12 June 2013, 14:09:45
Caro, Love that emoticon!
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Caro on 12 June 2013, 16:03:31
Extra hugs for you, Janet.  :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 12 June 2013, 17:28:50
If you like baseball why not come down under in 2014.
http://deadspin.com/this-mlb-in-australia-thing-is-really-happening-512901478 (http://deadspin.com/this-mlb-in-australia-thing-is-really-happening-512901478)

I like some of the side column comments.   ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 12 June 2013, 17:41:02
Yus can all come back now, the Concord Quarantine has been lifted.    :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: AvastMH on 13 June 2013, 03:36:30
You sure? You don't have any spots left but the backs of your hands are still very hairy.... :o






Hahahaha! Made you look!  ;) ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: AvastMH on 13 June 2013, 05:18:49
I've sent it to Myles' group...they are meeting at the moment, but I sit with my back to the board room door so I can't see if they are hugging.  :-\ ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Craig on 13 June 2013, 06:43:37
June 12 is over and I missed it. I'll have to wait another year  :'(   

Maybe there will be a keyboarders' day in the meantime.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 14 June 2013, 17:42:43
Concord 22 Feb 1894
Crew given holiday (at sea) for George Washingtons Birthday.
Do you still have that holiday nowdays?
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Kathy on 14 June 2013, 18:20:18
It has been combined with Lincoln's birthday and is now called Presidents' Day
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 14 June 2013, 18:33:44
Like Kathy says, too many businesses complained about celebrating with full holiday 2 president's birthdays just 10 days apart.  (Lincoln's Feb. 12th and Washington's Feb.22nd.)  So now we officially celebrate President's day on the first Monday in between them.

Unless like me you live in the state of Illinois, "The Land of Lincoln".  Then we celebrate President's day in full with the nation, and all state gov't functions (and parking meter rules) also celebrate Feb. 12th as the real Lincoln's birthday.  There are 2 presidents who called Illinois home, but President Grant is better remembered for his generalship in the Civil War, as he was not a 'good' president.  Both these presidents lived down state, not in the Chicago area, but Chicago has honored them both by naming enormous lakefront city parks for them.  The 7-mile-long north side Lincoln Park includes the official statue of Grant, and the smaller but ritzier Grant Park between the Loop and the lake contains the official statue of Lincoln.  Now with a sitting president who calls both Illinois and Chicago home,  I'm trying to figure out which park will be renamed Obama Park.  I'm thinking maybe Jackson Park (south side like Obama's home and quite big abutting the Museum of Science and Industry.)  But no one official is talking about that yet.  It will be nice to have the city's official statue of Obama in the park of the same name.  Unless they do something different with it.

Washington also has his own Chicago park, but being from the east coast he got a smaller park inland a bit. ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Dean on 14 June 2013, 19:52:47
Concord 22 Feb 1894
Crew given holiday (at sea) for George Washingtons Birthday.
Do you still have that holiday nowdays?

I used to tell my students it was 'George Birthington's Washday' and we'd celebrate the discovery of soap! ::)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 14 June 2013, 20:52:05
 The 7-mile-long north side Lincoln Park includes the official statue of Grant, and the smaller but ritzier Grant Park between the Loop and the lake contains the official statue of Lincoln.     ???
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 14 June 2013, 20:59:21
"Official" means it has to go thru City Council - and Chicago Council Wars are famous among us natives, frequently stupid.  That arrangement makes us laugh but doesn't surprise.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 14 June 2013, 22:51:05
It was just the placing of the 'other' statue in each park that amused me.
"Council Wars are famous among us natives, frequently stupid." I think that applied most everywhere.  ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 14 June 2013, 23:37:10
Too true.  Makes you wonder what makes someone want to go into politics.  I have absolutely no idea whatsoever why they did that with the statues - all were made in the 1890s, well before anyone living can remember.  And Lincoln Park is so astoundingly long, they also made room for a different Lincoln monument also.  Both Lincoln statues are by Saint-Gaudens, 1890s.  But it's not as much fun to say that at the beginning. 

Lincoln in Grant Park:  (big marble lead up to the memorial, but you can get close)
(http://mytravelphotos.net/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/Lincoln-Statue-in-Grant-Park-Pictures-1-3-286x300.jpg)

Grant in Lincoln Park:  (this no one gets close to, ever)
(http://lcweb2.loc.gov/service/pnp/ppmsca/17900/17947v.jpg)

Lincoln in Lincoln Park:  (another large marble surround to memorialize, but again you can get close)
(http://www.abrahamlincolnonline.org/lincoln/art/gaudens.jpg)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Caro on 15 June 2013, 02:20:52
Morning all and congratulations Sir Baldrick (http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2013/jun/14/queens-birthday-honours-tony-robinson).  :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: AvastMH on 15 June 2013, 21:09:48
It's all thanks to his cunning plans with turnips ;) ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Caro on 16 June 2013, 03:05:15
Hello world.
Happy father's day, fathers.  :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: AvastMH on 16 June 2013, 06:13:27
I'll second that Caro! :-*
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Steeleye on 16 June 2013, 08:27:33
Hello world.
Happy father's day, fathers.  :)

Down this way, we still have about three months to wait for that event.  I can never decide if we are three months late, or nine months early.

 :-\
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 16 June 2013, 09:53:02
Happpy Father's Day!
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: studentforever on 18 June 2013, 03:25:10
Wonder whether we'll get a mention - they are looking at sea ice and ocean currents.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-22937375
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Craig on 18 June 2013, 07:01:37
Here's an article about why it is always reported that UK weather records only begin in 1914 (or in 1910, which I saw in another article) when there is information going back as far as 1659.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2007/sep/03/weather.features11
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: studentforever on 18 June 2013, 08:08:41
Well some of our RN records are pre-1914 so they can have a go at those as well.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Randi on 18 June 2013, 08:59:43
Here's an article about why it is always reported that UK weather records only begin in 1914 (or in 1910, which I saw in another article) when there is information going back as far as 1659.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2007/sep/03/weather.features11

Very good.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 18 June 2013, 09:20:19
Here's an article about why it is always reported that UK weather records only begin in 1914 (or in 1910, which I saw in another article) when there is information going back as far as 1659.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2007/sep/03/weather.features11

Well some of our RN records are pre-1914 so they can have a go at those as well.

The naval records go around Britain, not in it.  Coastal weather is always different than inland.  That said, this feels really, really odd.  Chicago has had an established weather station since the mid-1800s - although they moved it from the lake shore to OHare airport eventually.  Our official records start in December 1871 only because the station and all its records were burnt in the Great Chicago Fire in October of that year.  Given Britain's highly variable weather, I'd have thought they'd have the same interest in recordings and predictions.  The US weather service started out in the army, and was switched to civilian status only after a major storm disaster.

Excerpt from Evolution of the National Weather Service (http://www.nws.noaa.gov/pa/history/timeline.php)
Quote
1849: Smithsonian Institution supplies weather instruments to telegraph companies and establishes extensive observation network. Observations submitted by telegraph to the Smithsonian, where weather maps are created.

By the end of 1849, 150 volunteers throughout the United States were reporting weather observations to the Smithsonian regularly. By 1860, 500 stations were furnishing daily telegraphic weather reports to the Washington Evening Star, and as the network grew, other existing systems were gradually absorbed, including several state weather services.

1860: 500 stations are making regular observations, but work is interrupted by the Civil War.

1869: Telegraph service, instituted in Cincinnati, began collecting weather data and producing weather charts.
...

1870: A Joint Congressional Resolution requiring the Secretary of War "to provide for taking meteorological observations at the military stations in the interior of the continent, and at other points in the States and Territories...and for giving notice on the northern lakes and on the seacoast, by magnetic telegraph and marine signals, of the approach and force of storms" was introduced. ...

May 30, 1889: An earthen dam breaks near Johnstown, Pennsylvania. The flood kills 2,209 people and wrecks 1,880 homes and businesses.

October 1, 1890: The weather service is first identified as a civilian agency when Congress, at the request of President Benjamin Harrison, passes an act transferring the meteorological responsibilities of the Signal Service to the newly-created U.S. Weather Bureau in the Department of Agriculture.
...
1891: ... Weather Bureau becomes responsible for issuing flood warnings to the public; Telegraphic reports of stages of rivers were made at 26 places on the Mississippi and its tributaries, the Savannah and Potomac Rivers.
...

Who'd have thought we had older official weather history than Europe?
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: philip.brohan on 18 June 2013, 09:45:57
What goes back to 1914 are the carefully-constructed, high-resolution, UK-wide datasets made from the original observations. Our archives hold records going much further back, but it's hard to use the limited old records for precise estimates.

UK average rainfall is not easy to calculate, because rain varies so much from place to place. ideally we'd have a rain gauge every 10-metres over the whole country, but we have MANY fewer, even today, (the pre-1914 England and Wales precipitation series is based on only 63 observations sites).

My colleagues work hard to estimate rainfall everywhere in the UK from the limited number of weather stations: they allow for the extra rain that falls on hills, changes in station sites, the difficulty of measuring light rain and snow, and various other factors, and we are pretty confident that our records back to 1914 are good enough to rank the years and seasons in order of wetness (though never certain). We are working on extending those records back in time, but it's slow work.

If you are willing to make bolder assumptions, you can estimate UK-wide rainfall from a much smaller and less well-characterized set of station data than the Met Office uses, and so go further back in time (but with a much bigger chance of error). There is nothing wrong with doing this (the Met Office does it with the HadUKP/EWP dataset (http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/hadobs/hadukp/)), but it's important not to confuse such estimates with the official statistics. These sorts of records are typically good enough to say which years were wet and which dry, but not good enough to say which of the wet years was the wettest.

The data we are putting into oldWeather does not feed into UK rainfall estimates (they only look at land data and we only look at marine data). What we are doing is improving understanding of the global circulation - wind strength and direction, which is what we need to understand WHY we have wet (or sometimes even dry) summers. We are also not UK focused - we are collecting data for everyone.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 18 June 2013, 10:36:06
As a data collector, I'm really not counting diaries, etc.  Fascinating and useful maybe, but I wouldn't trust them until an expert had made a map out of several.  I'm looking things like this:
Quote
...A local newspaper, the Washington Evening Star, first began publishing weather forecasts in 1857, based on the telegraph reports received by the Smithsonian.

I'm assuming the US Army Signal Corp was providing original readings with known instruments - which the Smithsonian itself was supplying by the hundreds.  Like I said, it feels really odd - all my life I've thought of the US as being the historical johnny-come-lately of science.  It also feels kind of good.  :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Caro on 19 June 2013, 07:51:48
Interesting reading in here!
Reporting the end of another era ...
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/blogs-magazine-monitor-22953657
Blackadder gags included.  :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: studentforever on 19 June 2013, 08:08:27
Yes, the Queen has been sending cards for some time.  At least the families of servicemen killed or injured now get visits.  But I can remember getting a telegram to say I was accepted for Cambridge Uni (in those days you sat separate entrance exams, rather than being accepted on your A levels).
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 19 June 2013, 09:25:14
Rest in Peace - this is the technology that first created long-distance connections for private conversations.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Craig on 19 June 2013, 14:52:29
I was just telling my 10 year old granddaughter how quickly things are changing and told her about the older telephones (live operators no less) and then the telegraphs before that. She thought that the telegraph must have been really awkward to use, especially when you had to use a code.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: asterix135 on 19 June 2013, 15:03:44
I remember a few years back when we visited a hotel that had a rotary dial phone in the room.  My daughter (who was like 5 at the time) stuck her fingers in the holes and asked how you dial the phone because nothing was happening.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: studentforever on 19 June 2013, 17:04:26
My brother was a science teacher and he fascinated a class when he brought a slide rule because his calculator battery had run out.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Dean on 19 June 2013, 17:11:31
My brother was a science teacher and he fascinated a class when he brought a slide rule because his calculator battery had run out.

I still have mine and know how to use it! But I'm not as good as I was in college! ::)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: studentforever on 20 June 2013, 02:42:02
I've still got mine too - double sided log-log and I can't even remember what some of the scales do!!
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Dean on 20 June 2013, 07:32:12
I agree with that!!!!!! ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 20 June 2013, 15:15:33
Happy Winter/Summer (Delete as applicable)

[I had a circular slide rule but never got round to using it much.]   :D
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Dean on 20 June 2013, 15:24:55
Got two of those too! Used to use  a 'special' model for Navigation (Speed Time Distance calculations) when flying and now on the boat.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Caro on 21 June 2013, 02:32:50
Hello world. Happy summer/winter solstice from me too.
There was no chance of seeing the solstice sunrise where I live!
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 21 June 2013, 03:19:26
Happy Solstice, World. 

Happy Sunrise on a new season. :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Craig on 21 June 2013, 06:00:07
and get set for the Supermoon on Sunday. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/06/20/supermoon-june-2013-perigee-moon_n_3461899.html?1371748354
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Caro on 21 June 2013, 06:13:52
You bet.
"June's Supermoon rises in the UK at around 9-30pm - 9-45pm [BST] on 23 June, and will be visible all night low to the southern horizon."
I think that should read 'and may be visible' ... the forecast is not good.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: asterix135 on 21 June 2013, 09:04:27
Supermoon:

(http://www.slate.com/content/dam/slate/blogs/bad_astronomy/2013/06/19/supermoon.jpg.CROP.original-original.jpg)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Craig on 21 June 2013, 09:25:01
Good one, Asterix135!  ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Kathy on 21 June 2013, 12:54:01
Oh Asterix135 -

you have been hanging out with Dean for too long!  :P
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Dean on 21 June 2013, 19:53:23
Hey!! I resemble that remark!! ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: AvastMH on 22 June 2013, 06:41:49
 ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 24 June 2013, 23:37:38
Two things found/happened today. 

Regarding the high wire walk across the Grand Canyon.  Yahoo News article included this comment taken from an interview with the Navaho president of the tribal community that allowed/sponsored the event:
Quote
"Mr. Wallenda needs to buy a GPS or somebody give this guy a map," said Milton Tso, president of the Cameron community on the Navajo Nation. "He's not walking across the Grand Canyon. He's walking across the Little Colorado River Gorge on the Navajo Nation. It's misleading and false advertising."
The gorge he crossed was 0.25 miles across, which is impressive.  The Grand Canyon is about 1 mile across, I don't think they make cable that can remain taut for that distance.

Second, Chicago Black Hawks hockey team have just won the Stanley Cup!!  Yea Hawks!!
(http://www.bing.com/th?id=ATGyw0jfS3OLB2Q300C300&w=110&h=110&c=6&qlt=80&pid=16.1)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Caro on 25 June 2013, 04:24:59
Congrats Hawks!  :)

(http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/pictures/2013/6/24/1372061169963/Tightrope-Walker-Nik-Wall-003.jpg)

I can barely look at this photo.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 25 June 2013, 09:43:59
There isn't enough money on earth to pay me to try this stunt - some people are both incredibly talented and totally nuts.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: AvastMH on 25 June 2013, 13:14:46
Crazy mad! Crazy mad! - and who CARES if it's not the grand canyon - isn't it enough?  :P :o
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 25 June 2013, 13:35:31
I think the Navajo tribe objected to having the location allegedly moved onto federal lands.  Beyond that, anyone who thinks about doing that is way beyond spectacularly nuts.  A quarter of a mile on a 2" (5 cm) cable in erratic canyon winds is ridiculously beyond most abilities.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Dean on 26 June 2013, 14:47:31
As I regularly tell people ---  'How would you normal people know you are normal if it weren't for the rest of us??!!' 8)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 26 June 2013, 17:30:57
Truth - stuff like that definitely draws boundaries.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Randi on 27 June 2013, 14:38:42
Keep an eye on Old Weather News to see what Joan has been up to ;) ;D ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: asterix135 on 27 June 2013, 17:46:32
Keep an eye on Old Weather News to see what Joan has been up to ;) ;D ;)

this?
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Randi on 27 June 2013, 18:17:43
 ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 27 June 2013, 21:26:57
I just now did the posting that was missing. :-[
See OW on Radio... (http://forum.oldweather.org/index.php?topic=3882.msg69314#msg69314)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 27 June 2013, 22:27:27
Joan Arthur. Star of the small swarky box.  %^)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Kathy on 27 June 2013, 23:16:57
that was really quite nice - very effective -
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Caro on 28 June 2013, 02:45:18
Ha ha. I like the pic, asterix.
Joan, Keeren, Fredi and Alexandra did a great job.
Gold stars all round.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: AvastMH on 28 June 2013, 03:13:03
 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Love the pic Asterix - very funny!  It can't be me - I always wear my red dress when tight rope walking (hahahahaha!)

Glad you folks enjoyed the radio excerpt - that was about 1 hour's worth+Alexandra's bit, all  reduced to 7 minutes - an amazing bit of chopping!
Couldn't help cringing at my residual London twang.

Quick correction - it's Alexandra Eveleigh (Keeren is correcting the original).

Right - where's that balancing pole?  :o ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: jil on 28 June 2013, 04:54:39
 8) Great piece of audio. Well done Joan et al!
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Craig on 28 June 2013, 07:21:45
Indeed, it was a great piece of radio drama, Joan! I loved it. You could take over for Orsen Welles doing the Jeannette.  8)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: AvastMH on 28 June 2013, 08:50:53
Indeed, it was a great piece of radio drama, Joan! I loved it. You could take over for Orsen Welles doing the Jeannette.  8)

Whoa! There's an idea - the Jeannette meets War of the Worlds! That'd make a colossal read!  :o
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Thursday Next on 28 June 2013, 09:17:36
That's a great piece of audio - well done, Joan!  Had a lot of problems actually getting it to play, but well worth the hassle in the end!
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: AvastMH on 28 June 2013, 10:11:33
thanks Thursday next, and jil.
If Philip is going to spread the good word let's hope we all get a chance to do some advertising!

Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Helen J on 28 June 2013, 11:11:32
Good work, Joan, and nothing at all wrong with the accent!
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Randi on 28 June 2013, 15:01:31
O - 6 ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Randi on 30 June 2013, 04:06:17
Chocolate as Sunscreen (also improves blood flow) (http://www.sciencenews.org/view/generic/id/7437/description/Chocolate_as_Sunscreen)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: jil on 30 June 2013, 06:31:29
Excellent news   8)

Eating some chocolate immediately, although looking at the weather I won't need it so much today.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Helen J on 30 June 2013, 10:29:21
Just been out in the sun - I wonder whether it works retrospectively?  I'm willing to give it a go, in a spirit of scientific enquiry.   ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Randi on 30 June 2013, 10:41:21
I don't think so, but you could get ready for the next time ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: studentforever on 30 June 2013, 11:46:54
Sun!! Up here it has been drizzling all day and I am sitting with a fleece top.  It's a conspiracy!!
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Helen J on 30 June 2013, 14:20:08
Probably not a lot of encouragement, but it has now clouded over ....
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Randi on 30 June 2013, 16:21:19
O - 4 ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Dean on 30 June 2013, 20:05:17
It's been monsoon season over here! We just spent Friday and Saturday days sucking 4" (10cm) of water out of the first level of the Church in Lockport NY. Sunk 5 classrooms, the Fellowship Hall, our 'restaurant' type kitchen,...  Fortunately the boilers stayed dry and the facilities in the kitchen were high enough. Just filled the lowest drawers. :'(

http://lockportjournal.com/local/x1293877191/Sights-from-the-Lockport-flood


Managed to get it dry enough to run a scheduled Chicken BBQ for 500 people this afternoon! 8)

Big cleanup starts tomorrow! ::)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Kevin on 01 July 2013, 00:28:02
Just back from ten days at the old family place in northern Florida. Pretty much the same as when I was five - except now there's AC in the car & cabins. Missed hearing the night sounds with every window wide but not the chiggers. Got to see an awesome summer thunderstorm, too - don't have those much here in the placid Pacific Northwest. Also 'gators and river otter but no b'ar nor panther this time.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 01 July 2013, 01:41:11
Nice to go home to memories sometimes.  Welcome back.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Steeleye on 01 July 2013, 02:33:26
A story just appeared on the local ABC (that's 'A' as in 'Oz') on the Arizona bushfires.  A bushfire that kills 19+ trained firefighters goes way beyond serious and into the realms of frightening.

I haven't heard of any OWers beavering away in the southwest, but our thoughts are with you anyway.

Hope things improve soon.

 :(
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: studentforever on 01 July 2013, 02:54:32
It was horrific; here in the UK it's difficult to imagine a scene like that.  Our thoughts are with their families & friends.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Kathy on 01 July 2013, 17:14:32
 :o

I would not want to be caught up in this!

http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/sideshow/radar-dust-bugs-texas-weather-130821240.html
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Dean on 01 July 2013, 19:37:05
Around here when the Dopler Radars first came out they had a similar problem -- NIGHTLY storms in a certain area. Came to find out is was a bazillion bats leaving the caves.  Now they just 'ignore' the return. 8)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Randi on 02 July 2013, 15:14:18
O - 2 (http://forum.oldweather.org/index.php?topic=2560.msg69563#msg69563) ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Craig on 02 July 2013, 15:44:48
I am quite mystified by your codes, Randi, but I predict the next one will be O - 0   ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 02 July 2013, 16:09:18
If 0 comes after 2, are you sure about that? ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 02 July 2013, 16:42:10
O - 6 ;D

O - 4 ;D

O - 2 (http://forum.oldweather.org/index.php?topic=2560.msg69563#msg69563) ;)

I think it will be O - none.

 ;D

 
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: AvastMH on 02 July 2013, 16:45:04
Well bless me I finally got it!!!  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 02 July 2013, 16:56:36
Cerchink. (or how ever you spell it) 
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: AvastMH on 02 July 2013, 16:58:57
Just back from ten days at the old family place in northern Florida. Pretty much the same as when I was five - except now there's AC in the car & cabins. Missed hearing the night sounds with every window wide but not the chiggers. Got to see an awesome summer thunderstorm, too - don't have those much here in the placid Pacific Northwest. Also 'gators and river otter but no b'ar nor panther this time.
Been very busy - just to say that it's good to hear that you had a good time! The night sounds from my window as a child were of the docks at Dagenham - bit different to crickets in the grass! :D
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Craig on 02 July 2013, 17:05:52
Thanks Stuart, but what does it all mean  ???  I think Randi is trying to signal something important to us. Perhaps some new ships coming tomorrow ...  ;)  Clearly, Janet is intentionally trying to confuse us by playing innocent.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Randi on 02 July 2013, 17:11:26
Stay tuned ;D

(new ships coming, but probably not tomorrow - hopefully this month or next)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Kevin on 02 July 2013, 17:41:15
Smoke on the horizon.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Craig on 02 July 2013, 18:51:03
or sails?
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 02 July 2013, 19:56:08
Think personal 'O' ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Kathy on 02 July 2013, 22:20:38
We have had bear sightings here in Montgomery County (Rockville to be precise), MD and probably the same bear in DC -
 :o
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 02 July 2013, 22:49:55
Makes you remember this continent is not entirely tame.  No bears near Chicago that I've heard of, but there have been several cougars that managed to get lost enough to end up down around the Loop area. 
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Randi on 03 July 2013, 02:08:53
O - 1 (http://forum.oldweather.org/index.php?topic=3741.msg69582#msg69582)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Kevin on 03 July 2013, 10:20:29
or sails?

Mainly smoke from oil-fired steam turbines - though there are some more revenuers like the BEAR making way.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Caro on 03 July 2013, 15:57:56
I found some friends for Joan's lovely lady at the Maritime Museum in London.  :)

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-HAh9HqOezvc/UdSBZKHaaEI/AAAAAAAAOvw/ZDpuVdkbD5A/s512/maritime%2520museum.jpg?gl=GB)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Dean on 03 July 2013, 16:08:36
 ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 03 July 2013, 17:16:11
It is O - 0 here and as you will be busy when it is O - 0 your time,

Best Wishes for the day,
Helen J.


(Sorry Randi but I am out most of today.)



Here is the link for 'O - 0': http://forum.oldweather.org/index.php?topic=2560.msg69616#msg69616

Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 03 July 2013, 17:24:27
It is O - 0 here and as you will be busy when it is O - 0 your time,

Best Wishes for the day,
Helen J.


(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/6vnqRDTaLGacm_0PJygZeovgJ2kgE2A3fqnomsTQ74k=w162-h207-p-no)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: AvastMH on 03 July 2013, 17:48:51
I found some friends for Joan's lovely lady at the Maritime Museum in London.  :)

 A fine selection if ever I saw one - thanks Caro! ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Caro on 04 July 2013, 02:49:06
Hello world.
Happy 4th of July to the USA and good luck today, Helen!  :-*
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: studentforever on 04 July 2013, 03:23:31
Celebrations all round today.

 :) :)

May this be a wonderful new chapter in your life, Helen
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 04 July 2013, 03:27:32
Happy 'now what's the name of the day' to the OW Americans.    ;D
(Pommystuart)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 04 July 2013, 03:41:39
May God be with you today, Helen. 



(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-oJKIYRbC4s8/UdUm0hP6TnI/AAAAAAAABrs/GMVPttYdP9c/w417-h531-no/4th+of+July.GIF)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: AvastMH on 04 July 2013, 03:44:26
Celebrating the anniversary of America's new life, and the 0th anniversary of Helen's. Blessings upon all. Have an enjoyable day Helen!


(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_luxknxCWO31qlsiq8o1_500.gif)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: jil on 04 July 2013, 03:53:05
Happy Ordination Day, Helen!

Is there something else going on today?  ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Craig on 04 July 2013, 05:06:38
Congratulations, Helen!
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: studentforever on 04 July 2013, 06:47:05
Excerpt from the BBC News website

'Four people had to be rescued off the Dorset coast after the yacht they were in began to sink.

The crew in Poole Harbour sent a Mayday to coastguards just after 19:00 BST after the 38ft Ketch rapidly started to take on water.

Poole's inshore lifeboat crew were able to stem the intake caused by a broken pipe and towed the vessel to Holes Bay.

Helmsman Glen Mallen said: "When there is any sign of water ingress it is best to raise the alarm and ask for help."'

Could there be a more appropriate destination for a boat with a hole in a pipe!!
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Randi on 04 July 2013, 07:42:33
Hope you enjoy your day Helen!
 :-* :-* :-*
Keep an independent spirit ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Dean on 04 July 2013, 07:43:28
Happy Ordination Day, Helen! May God's blessings be upon you and those you serve!

And as Randi said last year:

Just remember:
He who goes forth with a fifth on the fourth will not go forth on the fifth. ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Caro on 05 July 2013, 07:04:50
Helloooooooo! Is anybody home?
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Randi on 05 July 2013, 07:08:54
It sure is quiet here! ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Dean on 05 July 2013, 07:46:06
Good Morning from beautiful western New York State! Even if it HAS been raining for 40 days and 40 nights! ???
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: jil on 05 July 2013, 08:11:25
Hello - It's sunny here so been in the garden.  8)

Just popped in to avoid too much sunburn!

Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: studentforever on 05 July 2013, 08:24:10
It's cloudy here but dry so we count our blessings and don our jackets.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Kevin on 05 July 2013, 10:53:12
Second time in a few years that July 4th fireworks have set marinas ablaze on Lake Union - last time the NOAA marine ops dock went up in smoke, this year a storage yard + 14 boats (1.5 million in damage). Somebody needs to get Fireman Sam's 10 Top Tips for firework safety in Pontypandy.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Helen J on 05 July 2013, 12:01:27
Hello all! I have finally managed to get a connection in the depths of Dorset so I can thank you all for your good wishes for yesterday. It was truly a very special and wonderful day and I was very aware of all who were supporting me from around the world. And as for the surprise which Kathy organised well I was speechless! I believe some pics are on their way....
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Kathy on 05 July 2013, 12:21:41
I so glad it went well -  I know an Episcopal Church in Gaithersburg, MD that could use an Assistant Rector (hint hint hint)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Thursday Next on 05 July 2013, 12:42:37
Congratulations, Helen! So glad to hear the special day went so well!
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Caro on 05 July 2013, 13:13:44
Congratulations Helen. Looking forward to some pics.  :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 05 July 2013, 13:25:16
Congratulations, Helen.  Glad you found a calling.  :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: AvastMH on 05 July 2013, 14:35:08
Really pleased for you Helen - enjoy the calling. I feel very excited for you,
Joan :-*
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Randi on 05 July 2013, 14:43:42
 :-*
Do you know where you will be doing your curacy?
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: studentforever on 05 July 2013, 15:45:48
Hope the next year goes well for you and that your new parish is welcoming & supportive.  Then next year you will reach your final goal and be a fully fledged priest and we can all rejoice with you again!
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 05 July 2013, 17:03:18
Hello - It's sunny here so been in the garden.  8)

Just popped in to avoid too much sunburn!
That is what the umbrella is for Jil.    ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: jil on 06 July 2013, 04:33:28
Stuart,
Only really used to using them for rain protection round this neck of the woods.  ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Dean on 06 July 2013, 07:59:00
I so glad it went well -  I know an Episcopal Church in Gaithersburg, MD that could use an Assistant Rector (hint hint hint)


Glad everything went well.Looking forward to the pics.


I think we could find a church here near Niagara Falls too!!!!! ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Helen J on 06 July 2013, 10:30:43
:-*
Do you know where you will be doing your curacy?

I'm going to be a part time and unpaid curate in the parish where I'm living - Hanborough and Freeland, just a bit outside Oxford.  It should be interesting; there are four churches, and a big ministry team, so there will be lots of variety.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Helen J on 06 July 2013, 10:32:58
I so glad it went well -  I know an Episcopal Church in Gaithersburg, MD that could use an Assistant Rector (hint hint hint)

It was an absolutely wonderful day and your part in it made it even more special.  As to taking on a job, I think my community might want to have some say in that!  And I don't think I'm qualified to be any kind of Rector for a while yet ...
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Kathy on 06 July 2013, 10:38:05
Well, it wasn't just me.  Several fellow shipmates also had a hand in things   :-*.  And I think you would probably be a fine asst rector.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 06 July 2013, 12:52:33
I so glad it went well -  I know an Episcopal Church in Gaithersburg, MD that could use an Assistant Rector (hint hint hint)

It was an absolutely wonderful day and your part in it made it even more special.  As to taking on a job, I think my community might want to have some say in that!  And I don't think I'm qualified to be any kind of Rector for a while yet ...

We'd take a Deacon in my parish in Evanston also - but I'm glad you found a spot close to home for your "field year" before priesthood.  :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Randi on 06 July 2013, 16:58:16
Hello Pommy Stuarts ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: AvastMH on 06 July 2013, 17:35:24
Hello Pommy Stuarts ;D

Hats off to Pommy for sheer dedication and cloning 8)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: AvastMH on 06 July 2013, 17:48:47
I thought folks might like to see the interior of St MtV in Freeland, Helenj, since it is a very beautiful piece of Victorian work.  :D

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/aa/Freeland_StMaryV_Chancel.JPG/360px-Freeland_StMaryV_Chancel.JPG)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 06 July 2013, 18:35:44
Joan, what church is St MtV?  I'm assuming it is where the ordination took place.  And it is beautiful.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 06 July 2013, 19:00:37
Hello Pommy Stuarts ;D

Hats off to Pommy for sheer dedication and cloning 8)

That is the benefit of being ambiguous, I can work equally as bad with either hand.
Good Rugby game last night.
The best team won. The second best did not.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Caro on 07 July 2013, 04:08:21
Greetings all.
I didn't know you were ambiguous, Stuart.  ;)

Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Helen J on 07 July 2013, 07:24:36
Joan, what church is St MtV?  I'm assuming it is where the ordination took place.  And it is beautiful.

St Mary the Virgin in Freeland is one of the churches where I'm going to be curate - and is indeed beautiful.  In fact I'll be there tonight for my first official service as a deacon - but just being introduced and doing the intercessions.
The ordination happened at Hilfield Friary in Dorset - a very different chapel, converted from a cowshed.  If someone can tell me how to insert a picture, I may be able to post one of the rehearsal before the service!
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Randi on 07 July 2013, 07:42:19
Not wasting any time! ;D

Posting Links and Images (A Guide) (http://forum.oldweather.org/index.php?topic=1073.0)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 07 July 2013, 08:20:16
A lovely way to begin your new life.  :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Kathy on 07 July 2013, 11:35:42
Has any one heard from Craig today?  Doesn't he live in Quebec?
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Randi on 07 July 2013, 11:40:37
He's well away from the explosion - I looked at the map last night!
And he is current on line!
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Craig on 07 July 2013, 11:43:05
You're right, Randi.

The train accident occurred Lac Megantic in the eastern townships - about 400 - 500 km from Gatineau. The last time I heard they still hadn't determined how many people were killed. The site was still too hot to get near. You probably know more about what's going on right now than I do, Kathy.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Kathy on 07 July 2013, 11:49:30
I'm glad you are ok - I really don't know anything about the whys and wherefores of the accident - I didn't finish reading the AP article - I saw Quebec and hopped on to see if you were ok -  :-*

I really need to get a map and mark locations  ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Craig on 07 July 2013, 12:39:30
I'm about 200 km west of Montreal. Lac Megantic is about 250 km to the east.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Thursday Next on 07 July 2013, 12:47:34
At least some happy news for those of us in the UK - first British Wimbledon Mens' Singles Champion since 1936!

Congratulations to Andy Murray!

And I say this even though I have pretty much wasted my entire day at a fundraising event which was very sparsely attended due to the world and his wife staying at home to watch the tennis!  ::)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Dean on 07 July 2013, 14:00:10
At least some happy news for those of us in the UK - first British Wimbledon Mens' Singles Champion since 1936!

Congratulations to Andy Murray!

And I say this even though I have pretty much wasted my entire day at a fundraising event which was very sparsely attended due to the world and his wife staying at home to watch the tennis!  ::)

Ah, Su, but your heart was in the right place to try to raise funds for a worthy cause!! ;D

Craig:  Glad to hear you are safe.  Trains - planes - I think I'll stick to SHIPS!!! ::)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 07 July 2013, 14:22:09
There ain't no safe travel in this world, just walking and you can trip on a bad sidewalk crack.  But that fuel train is beyond bad.  I'm praying for those town people.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Randi on 07 July 2013, 14:48:55
At least some happy news for those of us in the UK - first British Wimbledon Mens' Singles Champion since 1936!

Congratulations to Andy Murray!

And I say this even though I have pretty much wasted my entire day at a fundraising event which was very sparsely attended due to the world and his wife staying at home to watch the tennis!  ::)

Ah, Su, but your heart was in the right place to try to raise funds for a worthy cause!! ;D

Craig:  Glad to hear you are safe.  Trains - planes - I think I'll stick to SHIPS!!! ::)

Like the Costa Concordia?
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Helen J on 07 July 2013, 15:47:05
Not wasting any time! ;D

Posting Links and Images (A Guide) (http://forum.oldweather.org/index.php?topic=1073.0)

Well, here's an attempt at posting a picture of the chapel where I was ordained.  This was the rehearsal which is why we're all standing around in a somewhat disorganised fashion!
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Dean on 07 July 2013, 17:26:30
At least some happy news for those of us in the UK - first British Wimbledon Mens' Singles Champion since 1936!

Congratulations to Andy Murray!

And I say this even though I have pretty much wasted my entire day at a fundraising event which was very sparsely attended due to the world and his wife staying at home to watch the tennis!  ::)

Ah, Su, but your heart was in the right place to try to raise funds for a worthy cause!! ;D

Craig:  Glad to hear you are safe.  Trains - planes - I think I'll stick to SHIPS!!! ::)

Like the Costa Concordia?

Opps!!!! :o
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: AvastMH on 07 July 2013, 17:39:20

Well, here's an attempt at posting a picture of the chapel where I was ordained.  This was the rehearsal which is why we're all standing around in a somewhat disorganised fashion!
And very lovely it is too... much more simple than Freeland, but less distractions for one's thoughts. :D
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: studentforever on 07 July 2013, 17:42:53
Big contrast although both have their own beauty.  Enjoy your new role.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 07 July 2013, 17:47:03
At least some happy news for those of us in the UK - first British Wimbledon Mens' Singles Champion since 1936!

Congratulations to Andy Murray!

And I say this even though I have pretty much wasted my entire day at a fundraising event which was very sparsely attended due to the world and his wife staying at home to watch the tennis!  ::)

Andy must have heard you Thursday Next.
'ANDY MURRAY last night donated his ?73,000 prize money to charity after securing a third Queen?s Club title.'
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 07 July 2013, 18:47:19
Hi Randi.
All quiet on the Western /Eastern front.  ;)  (Not sure which it is from my location)

Nice Google Doodle coming up.
Try going both ways.
You have to do some funny clicks to help the alien find his space ship parts. Hint, the can helps to find two parts.
 
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 07 July 2013, 23:10:11

I really need to get a map and mark locations  ;D

I have started a map if anybody is interested send me a PM and I will put there town on the map.
PommyStuart.

http://goo.gl/maps/RSbP9 (http://goo.gl/maps/RSbP9)

Try http://goo.gl/maps/Z2IsJ (http://goo.gl/maps/Z2IsJ)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Caro on 08 July 2013, 02:59:40
Good morning people and aliens.
My Google alien is currently at the bottom of a hole.  :'(

It's OK. He has escaped.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Helen J on 09 July 2013, 13:00:24
Here is another photo from my ordination - the moment when I became a deacon.

Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Helen J on 09 July 2013, 13:03:21
And one more wonderfully atmospheric one, of me censing the people in the congregation.

Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Thursday Next on 09 July 2013, 13:41:42
Thanks for posting the photos, Helen.  Lovely to get a glimpse of your special day.  :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 09 July 2013, 13:52:04
What a wonderful ceremony, with your sisters witnessing.  Thanks for the pictures.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Kathy on 09 July 2013, 13:53:50
Looks lovely -  :-*
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Randi on 09 July 2013, 13:57:07
Thanks for the photos!
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: jil on 09 July 2013, 14:33:42
Looks wonderful - thanks!
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: studentforever on 09 July 2013, 15:46:26
A day to remember indeed.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Craig on 09 July 2013, 16:41:52
Great pictures, Helen. Congratulations once again!
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Caro on 09 July 2013, 16:51:35
Thank you for sharing these photos, Helen. :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 10 July 2013, 23:32:45
Come on Steeleye put your name down, its a bit lonesome down on the map.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: AvastMH on 11 July 2013, 11:50:28
Censing the people is a wonderful photo HelenJ. Again, very best wishes for your calling.
Joan
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: AvastMH on 11 July 2013, 11:54:46
Come on Steeleye put your name down, its a bit lonesome down on the map.
I've lost the map reference (Joan - the only geog help moderator who could lose a planet.  ::) ::) ::))
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Randi on 11 July 2013, 14:15:51
I have started an OW people map at http://goo.gl/maps/Z2IsJ (http://goo.gl/maps/Z2IsJ).
If you want your town (not address) on the map, message me with the info.
pommystuart.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: AvastMH on 11 July 2013, 14:50:48
phew! thanks! 8)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Hanibal94 on 12 July 2013, 05:52:28
I have started an OW people map at http://goo.gl/maps/Z2IsJ (http://goo.gl/maps/Z2IsJ).
If you want your town (not address) on the map, message me with the info.
pommystuart.

Thanks, but no thanks. I am always very paranoid when online because I once lost my account on an MMORPG to a scam.
This may be the friendliest forum I have ever known, but I will not give anything personal away. Ever.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Randi on 12 July 2013, 07:32:53
As they say, sooner safe than sorry.

Quote
This may be the friendliest forum I have ever known
Thank you!
However, it is true that anyone can access it, and some may do so for malicious purposes :(
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: AvastMH on 15 July 2013, 10:49:40
WOW - IT'S ROASTING HOT OUTSIDE AND IT IS ST SWITHUN'S DAY....YEH!  We will have a summer this year. ;) ;D ;D ;D

The name of Swithun is best known today for a British weather lore proverb, which says that if it rains on Saint Swithun's day, 15 July, it will rain for 40 days.

    St Swithun's day if thou dost rain
    For forty days it will remain
    St Swithun's day if thou be fair
    For forty days 'twill rain nae mare
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Kathy on 15 July 2013, 10:50:47
We are also roasting this week - supposed to reach 100 degrees at some point (that would be F and not C)  ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Thursday Next on 15 July 2013, 11:04:25
WOW - IT'S ROASTING HOT OUTSIDE AND IT IS ST SWITHUN'S DAY....YEH!  We will have a summer this year. ;) ;D ;D ;D

The name of Swithun is best known today for a British weather lore proverb, which says that if it rains on Saint Swithun's day, 15 July, it will rain for 40 days.

    St Swithun's day if thou dost rain
    For forty days it will remain
    St Swithun's day if thou be fair
    For forty days 'twill rain nae mare

 >:(  :(  >:(  :(  >:(  :'(

Now that is just really bad news!  I hate hot weather!  I am already sick of watering the garden, and my water butt ran out last night so from now on I have to get water from the mains supply.  It was bad enough the weather forecast saying it would go on for at least another week - 40 more days is just unthinkable!
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 15 July 2013, 11:14:07
Almost as hot in Chicago this week - highs in the 90s and so humid that heat index should be up to 100.  Fahrenheit.  It's the mugginess that hurts, hard to cool off with that much humidity.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Craig on 15 July 2013, 11:26:23
Likewise in sunny Gatineau, Janet. It makes you want to stay inside with the A/C going.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Kathy on 15 July 2013, 11:31:48
It has been so murky here that the sky looks like a winter sky - the same sort of grey -
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: AvastMH on 15 July 2013, 12:15:21
Dear St Swithun,
I just heard from my friends - any chance you could cancel the promise curse for this year around? Moderate temperatures with rain overnight would be preferred.
 8) 8) 8)  ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Caro on 15 July 2013, 13:01:57
Summer. I like it.  :o :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Randi on 15 July 2013, 14:27:04
Too blasted hot for me :P
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Helen J on 15 July 2013, 15:02:14
Dear St Swithun,

A PS - please can you keep it sunny, even if not quite as hot?  Some of us are really enjoying having blue skies after a very long spell of grey.

Many thanks.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Randi on 15 July 2013, 15:04:26
Thank you for your intercession Helen ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Helen J on 15 July 2013, 16:04:06
It's the least I can do!
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 15 July 2013, 16:15:55
I don't know. There is no satisfying some people.   :o
If it wasn't for the changing weather we would have nothing to talk about.
8.5C outside, 15C inside.
Slight chance of showers outside, no chance of showers inside (I hope)

Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: AvastMH on 15 July 2013, 18:02:37
It's the least I can do!
Always best to have an expert on the case...
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Dean on 15 July 2013, 19:12:19
It's the least I can do!
Always best to have an expert on the case...

As my best friend, Retired Minister Fay says "Sorry I'm Labour, NOT Management!!!" :P
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Caro on 16 July 2013, 02:42:43
Another 'hot' day forecast. Hooray!  ;)
Good morning world.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Craig on 16 July 2013, 05:24:01
Not a hooray for us in Gatineau (and Chicago, I presume). Highs today and tomorrow of 34 C with humidex readings over 40 C.  Yuk!
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: szukacz on 16 July 2013, 09:11:52
Holiday Greetings to all.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Kathy on 16 July 2013, 09:16:38
And where are you, pray tell?  :P
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Caro on 16 July 2013, 12:31:30
I don't think it's Pszczyna.  ??? :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Thursday Next on 16 July 2013, 13:24:48
Dear St Swithun,
I just heard from my friends - any chance you could cancel the promise curse for this year around? Moderate temperatures with rain overnight would be preferred.
 8) 8) 8)  ;)

I'd be quite happy to go along with that!
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: AvastMH on 16 July 2013, 13:29:49
oh what a view! Can I guess at somewhere in the Adriatic?
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Kathy on 16 July 2013, 14:04:36
Dear St Swithun,
I just heard from my friends - any chance you could cancel the promise curse for this year around? Moderate temperatures with rain overnight would be preferred.
 8) 8) 8)  ;)

I think there once was such a place -

http://www.stlyrics.com/lyrics/camelot/camelot.htm
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: szukacz on 16 July 2013, 17:37:05
+1 point for Caro  ;D for humor !!! bravo!
+2 point for AvastMH !!!

little tip but not too easy
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: AvastMH on 16 July 2013, 18:15:04
Oh deliciously interesting!  Given that we are probably talking about Macedonia let's try something to do with Alexander the Great. :)
It is a very beautiful place....in the viewfinder.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: AvastMH on 16 July 2013, 18:17:57
Dear St Swithun,
I just heard from my friends - any chance you could cancel the promise curse for this year around? Moderate temperatures with rain overnight would be preferred.
 8) 8) 8)  ;)

I think there once was such a place -

http://www.stlyrics.com/lyrics/camelot/camelot.htm
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D (and if only Richard Harris could sing - Camelot would have been perfect!)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Dean on 16 July 2013, 19:14:24
Too Hot here! I did, however, manage to find a slightly cooler place to reside for the afternoon! 8)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: AvastMH on 16 July 2013, 20:15:49
jealous!  ;) ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Kathy on 16 July 2013, 22:53:59
Turkey?  The symbol on one looks like a crescent moon and a star.  An old crusader port maybe?  Rhodes? or Malta?

Pula (Where I have been - loved it!  ;D )
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Randi on 17 July 2013, 02:34:22
The other looks to me a bit like a sword in a stone - don't suppose it is Camelot ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: szukacz on 17 July 2013, 02:50:28
You're really good at getting closer to the big steps.
A tiny piece to the puzzle.

:) Randi +1
AvastMH +1 Macedonia
Kathy +1 for Malta and Rodos not Turkey
+1 Dean The same climate.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 17 July 2013, 03:03:46
I think szukacz is in Croatia.

Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: szukacz on 17 July 2013, 03:11:38
+5 point for Pommy
end of the game :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 17 July 2013, 03:31:22
Thank you.
Now specific locations please.

Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Kathy on 17 July 2013, 06:48:57
Hey!  Pula is in Croatia.  That should get me some points  ;D  :o. The largest Roman coliseum outside of Rome is in Pula. Also there is at least one Fort used by both Napoleon and the Hapsburgs.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: szukacz on 17 July 2013, 08:42:33
It's not a very historical place. I would call this place: entertainment.
But how to look for it, you can find interesting places. We can continue playing the guessing game but I do not want to clutter up the forum.
Sorry, Kathy.
In fact, Pula is shot almost 10 Sorry three point for you.
Kathy here, almost all the Towns, villages have ports. This information will not help you.
Air: 33C, water: 23 W, b
Best regards
szukacz
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Kathy on 17 July 2013, 09:47:00
So, somewhere in Istria, not very historical, resort - humm going to have to do some searching for this - ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Caro on 17 July 2013, 10:01:12
My guess is Rabac.  :)???
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: szukacz on 17 July 2013, 19:08:00
Relic of communist Yugoslavia.
I "visited" the two places in the CRO, one on the island of Brac, Bol town, and this is the second.
Of course chosen so that the image could not see the name of the hotel. And this is not Havana :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 17 July 2013, 20:19:01
How is your Panasonic DMC-LZ7 camera going in SPLIT, szukacz?
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: szukacz on 18 July 2013, 02:40:56
 ;D Pommy +2p
Pommy are close, very close but it does not Split.
Clever but the camera is too stupid and there is no a GPS :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Caro on 18 July 2013, 03:54:45
Ummm, Makarska?
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: studentforever on 18 July 2013, 04:33:36
Dubrovnik Riviera maybe, there are lots of derelict hotels on the coast near there.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: szukacz on 18 July 2013, 10:32:02
Caro +7 pkt.
Almost almost, very hot.
It's a finger's breadth!!!
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 18 July 2013, 16:39:09
What scale is the map for the Finger's breadth?   ;D
Lastovo-Pasador?
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Caro on 18 July 2013, 16:55:37
Oooo. I'm going for Tučepi.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: szukacz on 19 July 2013, 07:25:42
Hurray Caro!
+10 points  and win mini-game.
I know that this game is a little unfair: time zones, some sleeping, others are working and the third goes to sleep.
I'm going on a hiking trip to visit four old thirteenth century churches.
rgds
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Kathy on 19 July 2013, 08:39:25
Sounds nice - have a good hike...hope it is not too HOT!
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: AvastMH on 19 July 2013, 09:54:23
Keep to the shade if you can! :D
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 19 July 2013, 23:36:07
Yet another 'log book' birthday day.
No wonder I am feeling old, that's 4 this year (and a real one.)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Hanibal94 on 20 July 2013, 10:21:53
Morning OW.
Enjoying a good summer vacation on the New Jersey shore, although it is quite hot here (around 90 F most of the time) and also very humid.
So pretty much all my time is spent indoors or in the water.
But it is great to have a good long break after my first real year at work.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Helen J on 20 July 2013, 11:17:39
Holidays seem to be the theme at the moment.  I'm in Edinburgh on mine, and it's hot here too - for Edinburgh really hot (ie about mid 70s!).  Yesterday I visited HMY Britannia - the last Royal Yacht, which is now moored in Leith, Edinburgh's port.  Fascinating to see around, and to recognize various terminology on the bridge such as the state of the watertight doors and the wireless telegraphy.  You can go through pretty much the whole ship, from the royal apartments at the top to the crewmens' quarters, laundry, and engine room right down at the lowest level.
Altogether a very superior vessel, and well worth a visit if you're in Edinburgh. 
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Post by: Randi on 20 July 2013, 11:27:06
Glad you are both enjoying your vacations!
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Kathy on 20 July 2013, 12:13:07
I love the Jersery Shore - Cape May and Atlantic City ( ::) ) are my favorite spots. 
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: szukacz on 20 July 2013, 13:17:06
Great! Maybe some tiny photo?
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Hanibal94 on 20 July 2013, 13:44:28
I love the Jersery Shore - Cape May and Atlantic City ( ::) ) are my favorite spots.

I'm close to Long Beach Island, which is very nice. I'm staying with relatives who have a house right on a lake.
It's really great for summer vacations, but according to the relatives, it's not that good the rest of the year.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: AvastMH on 20 July 2013, 14:35:49
I've just finished my hols - back to work next week in all this heat - rats. Never mind - I'll think of Hannibal bobbing around in the cool water and try to 'think cold' (you could swap Angry Bird for a happy duck?).
Edinburgh festival sounds good - did that one year..it was great - especially some of the street shows.
Enjoy!
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: studentforever on 20 July 2013, 14:39:30
Helen, you could take a couple of side trips if you want to enhance your nautical experience - Dundee waterfront or Glasgow Riverside Museum.  Both have sailing ships on show if you want to have a look at some of the rigging etc.

Enjoy the weather, this is unusual.  Over the Glasgow Fair it is almost unheard of; I can remember only another 2 or 3 like it in 40 years!!
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Thursday Next on 20 July 2013, 16:08:22
Good heavens!  Most Online Ever: 137 at 07.07pm today!  What on earth was happening at that time that so many people were logged on to the Forum?  And who were they?
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Hanibal94 on 20 July 2013, 19:50:56
I've just finished my hols - back to work next week in all this heat - rats. Never mind - I'll think of Hannibal bobbing around in the cool water and try to 'think cold' (you could swap Angry Bird for a happy duck?).
Edinburgh festival sounds good - did that one year..it was great - especially some of the street shows.
Enjoy!

I couldn't find a happy duck, but I did find a summer themed Angry Bird.
It shall be my new avatar until summer ends.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 20 July 2013, 21:05:25
Good heavens!  Most Online Ever: 137 at 07.07pm today!  What on earth was happening at that time that so many people were logged on to the Forum?  And who were they?

That total includes lurking guests who were not signed in.  Could be anything from (hopefully) an organization who told the members about us or (unfortunately more likely) a whole bunch of spam 'bots trying to break in and post bad stuff.  You have to look at the break down of Guests and Members to see what is happening.  Anything in red or maroon ink down there is a link that lets you see more detail.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: szukacz on 21 July 2013, 03:44:32
For those who can not get out of the house.
http://geoguessr.com/ (http://geoguessr.com/)
http://www.mapcrunch.com/ (http://www.mapcrunch.com/)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Maikel on 21 July 2013, 04:32:16
Three cheers and a 21 gun salute for the new king of Belgium. :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: AvastMH on 21 July 2013, 06:13:53
For those who can not get out of the house.
http://geoguessr.com/ (http://geoguessr.com/)
http://www.mapcrunch.com/ (http://www.mapcrunch.com/)

1st guess - 15000km out, but 2nd guess:

Your guess was 0.007 km from the correct location and gave 6479 points.   
that was fun! ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Craig on 21 July 2013, 07:00:28
My guess was that IE 8 doesn't work for this site and I got 100% but no points ;D

With your success, Joan, I hope we don't lose you to this game.  ;D

Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Helen J on 21 July 2013, 07:12:39
Oh, another addiction possibility!  I got remarkably close on my first guess (about 120 km off) and then got worse and worse ...
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Caro on 21 July 2013, 07:21:39
Ha ha ha. I guessed Cyprus. It was Sardinia.
Only 2177.751 km from the correct location. Must try harder.  :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: AvastMH on 21 July 2013, 07:32:36
My guess was that IE 8 doesn't work for this site and I got 100% but no points ;D

With your success, Joan, I hope we don't lose you to this game.  ;D

Too true - very dangerous territory! Unlikely that this will compare with life on the high seas (or grovelling round the Magellan Straits in the Patterson!).  ;) ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: jil on 21 July 2013, 12:53:53
That could be very distracting!
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Caro on 21 July 2013, 13:00:54
"Your guess was 6.61 km from the correct location and gave 5959 points."
A big improvement.  :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: jil on 21 July 2013, 13:33:44
I was going to stop and then the next one was a lighthouse! How could I ignore that? It looked possibly Shetland/Orkneys. With massive thanks to photos on Lighthouse Directory I found it was Esha Ness.

I've stopped now - really!!
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: AvastMH on 21 July 2013, 14:46:32
Found myself outside a major US Post Office with a healthy sized sign on it - eeeeeeezzzeeee...which contrasted nicely to being in the middle of nowhere on the Eyre Highway (not short is it Stuart? ;) :D
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 21 July 2013, 17:27:45
For those who can not get out of the house.
http://geoguessr.com/ (http://geoguessr.com/)
http://www.mapcrunch.com/ (http://www.mapcrunch.com/)

1st guess - 15000km out, but 2nd guess:

Your guess was 0.007 km from the correct location and gave 6479 points.   
that was fun! ;D

How did you get a second guess? or was it a guess on the second place?
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 21 July 2013, 18:33:49
For the newcomers to the forum and for those those who may have missed it in other posts.

I have started an OW people map at http://goo.gl/maps/Z2IsJ (http://goo.gl/maps/Z2IsJ).
If you want your TOWN (not address) on the map, message me with the info.
pommystuart.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: AvastMH on 22 July 2013, 01:49:02
For those who can not get out of the house.
http://geoguessr.com/ (http://geoguessr.com/)
http://www.mapcrunch.com/ (http://www.mapcrunch.com/)

1st guess - 15000km out, but 2nd guess:

Your guess was 0.007 km from the correct location and gave 6479 points.   
that was fun! ;D

How did you get a second guess? or was it a guess on the second place?


Sorry Stuart - I meant place 2 - I couldn't work out a way of re-doing one guess, although that would lead to a stupendous score ;) ;)
The clue for 2 was that it pitched up right by a moderate sized un-named drainage cut. That put it into Bedfordshire or Lincolnshire. Then I had a scoot round the local villages and found a few with more northern names, so focused on Lincs - then found a drain by a river at a T junction...all took time.  8)
Off to work :'( :'(
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Caro on 23 July 2013, 02:55:15
Good morning world.
Did somebody have a baby?
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: AvastMH on 23 July 2013, 03:07:22
Apparently.
My advice to the parents - there is only one way to change a nappy - fast. 8)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Steeleye on 23 July 2013, 09:07:16
Good morning world.
Did somebody have a baby?

Huffington Post UK had quite a good take on the story du jour:
http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2013/07/22/royal-baby-spoof_n_3634135.html?utm_hp_ref=mostpopular (http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2013/07/22/royal-baby-spoof_n_3634135.html?utm_hp_ref=mostpopular)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Hanibal94 on 23 July 2013, 09:59:02
Good morning world.
Did somebody have a baby?

Huffington Post UK had quite a good take on the story du jour:
http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2013/07/22/royal-baby-spoof_n_3634135.html?utm_hp_ref=mostpopular (http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2013/07/22/royal-baby-spoof_n_3634135.html?utm_hp_ref=mostpopular)

Good one! Some of the other links there are also pretty great.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 23 July 2013, 11:54:48
All babies deserve the love heaped upon this one.  May the future king live long and prosper.  :D
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Hanibal94 on 24 July 2013, 13:54:05
Good afternoon OW. I am still enjoying my picnic. *NOM NOM NOM*
Does anybody want an antique Chinese vase? (http://www.youtube.com/embed/3e0yZCLjwfU?rel=0)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Randi on 24 July 2013, 14:25:37
3-D jigsaw puzzle perhaps?
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 24 July 2013, 17:28:39
Winter has finally arrived, -4C .

Question. No wind today, but if there was would it be PLUS wind chill factor or LESS wind chill factor?

Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 24 July 2013, 17:45:42
Wind chill always subtracts apparent temp.  Minus minus Minus produces more Minus.   ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Thursday Next on 24 July 2013, 18:02:17
I am thrilled to say that it is finally raining in the West Country!  ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: AvastMH on 24 July 2013, 18:02:26
Well the BBC announcers always say "-4 plus the wind chill factor means that it will feel more like -10" for what it's worth!
 Keep snug Stuart! ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: AvastMH on 24 July 2013, 18:07:50
I am thrilled to say that it is finally raining in the West Country!  ;D

ERmmmmm....you are going to get a LOT of rain...... but we do need it...enjoy!
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Hanibal94 on 24 July 2013, 18:19:14
Wind chill always subtracts apparent temp.  Minus minus Minus produces more Minus.   ;)

Actually, the second part is wrong. Two minuses make a plus, so minus minus minus would make more, not less.

Example:
-4 - (-2)
-4 + 2
-2

To make less, it has to be minus plus minus (or minus minus plus):
-4 + (-2)
-4 - 2
-6

I didn't do Advanced Math in school for nothing!
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 24 July 2013, 18:26:33
I think I will let Janeece hang out the washing today.
I know you subtract the wind chill degrees from the actual, it was just the wording to say that I was puzzled about.

Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: AvastMH on 24 July 2013, 18:45:17
1) Stuart - That's crispy alright! NOT the kind of day to put out the washing- unless you want it to fracture as you pull it off the line  ;)
2) Hanibal - I love your picnic ready avatar! (Unlikely to be setting up in Stuart's garden though eh?).
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Thursday Next on 24 July 2013, 18:46:41
I am thrilled to say that it is finally raining in the West Country!  ;D

ERmmmmm....you are going to get a LOT of rain...... but we do need it...enjoy!

Well, that should mean I won't need to water the garden again for a little while!
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 24 July 2013, 20:54:23
Quote Joan, 2) Hanibal - I love your picnic ready avatar! (Unlikely to be setting up in Stuart's garden though eh?).

I wonder what Hanibals taste like? %^)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Hanibal94 on 24 July 2013, 23:26:15
NO! I am not edible! Go away before I sic the Mighty Eagle on you!
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 25 July 2013, 01:28:41
OK.  :D
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Caro on 27 July 2013, 03:11:26
Greetings all.
The weather: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-23466469  :P ::)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 27 July 2013, 06:38:40
This is NOT appropriate July weather.  We've got:
(http://www.crh.noaa.gov/images/fxc/lot/wx/File.png)


Brrrrrr!
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Craig on 27 July 2013, 07:11:07
We have had quite cool nights for the last while - down to 10 C once. This is a welcome relief from the previous week.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Randi on 27 July 2013, 07:13:58
Send them this way!
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: AvastMH on 27 July 2013, 18:14:27
Our lightning showers have just petered out... but pity anyone in Belgium, and possibly Maikel and possibly Randi.... :o
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 27 July 2013, 18:38:09
Crazy weather all around.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Maikel on 28 July 2013, 03:26:57
Yeap, at 12.30am half an hour of continues thunder and lightning and fast amounts of rain.
Nicely refreshing after the oppressing humidity of the last couple of days. :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: szukacz on 28 July 2013, 08:21:20
It slowly is not pleasant  :-\
Saharan air. Heat.

add:
out:35C
h:31C
sun:45C
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: AvastMH on 28 July 2013, 08:23:00
Ouch! That's really hot! Stay cool!  8) 8)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 28 July 2013, 16:24:47
Drink lots, and drinks with electrolytes.  That's dangerous.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Dean on 28 July 2013, 17:08:16
As long as we are sharing weather pictures I'll share from about half way through a thunderstorm the other night. We received a total of 4.5" (11.5cm) in just over 3 hours. The programers for the weather station had a sense of humour!! ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: szukacz on 29 July 2013, 03:28:54
Dean,
cool weather station.  8)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Dean on 29 July 2013, 07:11:38
Dean,
cool weather station.  8)

Thanks.

It's a relatively 'basic' unit from Davis Instruments here in the 'States. I believe I paid about $250 USD. The sending unit resides on my house roof.

The 'official' gauge that I use to report to the National Weather Service (I do snow and rain daily) is out in the back yard but I have found the Davis unit to be VERY close. ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Craig on 29 July 2013, 07:28:01
I like the fine precision of the rain report  ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Dean on 29 July 2013, 10:15:51
I like the fine precision of the rain report  ;D

I'd never seen that before! Just happened to check it during a very hard rain because I didn't want to go outside to check the 'main' gauge until my 'normal read time!' :D
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Craig on 30 July 2013, 18:55:12
They would have had to calibrate "raining cats and dogs". I wonder if this is a cumulative measure or an instantaneous one?
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: AvastMH on 30 July 2013, 19:03:57
is it more rain or less rain than 'coming down in stair rods' please? ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Dean on 30 July 2013, 19:14:05
It must be raining cats and dogs because I just stepped in a poodle! ::)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 30 July 2013, 20:21:16
(http://www.markmcgraw.com/knowzone/style_emoticons/default/groan.gif)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Steeleye on 31 July 2013, 04:18:40
... speaking of weather ... if Canberra had a top temperature of more than 12C today, then we would have had our warmest July on record.  It made it to 15, so we shattered the old record (by about 0.1C).  It really has been beautiful today - only needed a T-shirt for tai chi this afternoon (don't panic - I did have tracksuit pants on as well).

 ::)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: AvastMH on 31 July 2013, 04:33:06
pictures please then.... ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Steeleye on 31 July 2013, 05:24:29
The weather, the T-shirt, or the trackies?

Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: AvastMH on 31 July 2013, 07:27:24
 ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: jil on 31 July 2013, 13:15:01
As it's currently 17C here in the middle of Britain's heatwave, that a pretty impressive winter temperature.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 31 July 2013, 17:20:10
From http://www.theleader.com.au/story/1673565/figures-in-july-heat-points-to-hot-2013/?cs=7 (http://www.theleader.com.au/story/1673565/figures-in-july-heat-points-to-hot-2013/?cs=7)
This year has already seen the hottest day, month and season on record, and after a warm July - about 1.5 degrees above the long-term norm - the hottest 11-month period on record. July itself will come in as the nation's third-warmest.

Sydney, for instance, had its warmest day, at 45.8 degrees back in January, a March with every day above 20 degrees, and the most July days of 20 degrees or warmer with Tuesday marking the 12th - two more than the previous record set in 1975

Year to date, average mean temperatures are running 1.07 degrees above the 1961-90 baseline, placing the year just behind 2005, the hottest in more than a century of national data.
___________________
Sydney Observatory Hill recorded 316.4 mm of rain during June, more than double the historical average of 131.2 mm. This is the wettest month in Sydney since 510.6 mm was recorded in June 2007, with well above average rainfall recorded across the city.
Most of the rain fell during the final week of the month, with an eight-day total to the 30th of 239.8 mm at Sydney Observatory Hill and up to 268.4 mm at the Botanic Gardens.

Sydney Airport recorded an average of just 4.0 hours of bright sunshine during June, well below the historical average of 6 hours and the least June sunshine since 1989
__________________

Global warming, climate change, never happen.  ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Caro on 01 August 2013, 02:23:04
Hello world, hello August.
Expecting 30C+ today, which is just fine with me.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Craig on 01 August 2013, 06:13:54
Hi Caro. 30C+ is nice if it's not too humid and there's a breeze. It usually is too humid here when it gets hot.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Caro on 01 August 2013, 10:23:27
Well now Craig, it's 31C at about 3.30pm, sunny, not a cloud in the sky, and not humid.
Yes.  ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Craig on 01 August 2013, 15:03:49
Enjoy it while it lasts, Caro!  From what I gather from the Jamestown logs, the weather in the Canaries and the Madiera is "pleasant" most of the time.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: AvastMH on 02 August 2013, 07:58:03
Just popping in for 2 minutes.
Yesterday night was wonderful - balmy breeze plus crystal clear sky...so bags of satellites, the usual run of planes heading into London's various airports, and several very faint shooing stars - plus one serious sized one around 11.30pm
Overall - 8/10 marks - fabulous - hopefully better around the12th to 14th.  ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Thursday Next on 04 August 2013, 14:29:31
So pleased to learn that the new Dr Who is Peter Capaldi - one of my very favourite actors!   ;D  ;D  ;D

(In the US you may know him as Malcom Tucker in "In The Loop" - don't worry, he's very versatile!)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: AvastMH on 04 August 2013, 15:51:19
He'll make quite a difference to the last three (but I'm surprised that they used an actor who had already been in an episode). We'll have to wait a long while to see him in action though! ::) :D
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Kathy on 04 August 2013, 15:51:57
Happy Birthday US Coast Guard
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: AvastMH on 04 August 2013, 15:57:57
(https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQ1k0DzGzUTFrew585XEoWF_OEZpifGZvh94ET59jePkS7Mb47P)


and best wishes for many more!
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: jil on 04 August 2013, 16:33:50
So pleased to learn that the new Dr Who is Peter Capaldi - one of my very favourite actors!   ;D  ;D  ;D

(In the US you may know him as Malcom Tucker in "In The Loop" - don't worry, he's very versatile!)
Yes, he should be great!
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Kevin on 05 August 2013, 17:45:50
The wreck of the Astrid (photos):
http://www.thejournal.ie/tall-ship-astrid-kinsale-1022401-Aug2013/
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: AvastMH on 06 August 2013, 03:59:59
Amazing photos - very atmospheric - thanks for posting Kevin.  :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Maikel on 06 August 2013, 04:47:16
Just a shame that during the night thieves managed to steal the antique compass, ship's bell and binnacle. >:(

http://www.irishtimes.com/news/crime-and-law/owner-expresses-dismay-at-theft-of-items-from-sunken-sailing-ship-off-west-cork-coast-1.1479991 (http://www.irishtimes.com/news/crime-and-law/owner-expresses-dismay-at-theft-of-items-from-sunken-sailing-ship-off-west-cork-coast-1.1479991)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: AvastMH on 06 August 2013, 08:14:47
I absolutely second your  >:(  Maikel
That is a disgrace indeed. And to what gain - the bell's hardly going to be un-noticed with it's name inscribed on it! I hope they catch these miscreants, for an oakum picking session.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Geoff on 07 August 2013, 03:53:40
For anyone living near to Canary Wharf, the Italian tall ship Amerigo Vespucci is docked there and visitors are allowed. Pictures and information here (http://www.wharf.co.uk/2013/08/amerigo-vespucci-docks-at-whar.html).
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: AvastMH on 07 August 2013, 04:19:33
Looks yummy....the gold swirlies!
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 07 August 2013, 07:25:45
14 tall ships are arriving today at Navy Pier, Chicago, for TALL SHIPS CHICAGO 2013 Festival (http://navypier.com/tallshipschicago/). 
Parade of Sail - 2 p.m. to 4:30 p.m. Wednesday
Festival with tour and sail opportunities - 10 a.m. to 9 p.m. Thursday through Saturday and 10 a.m. to 6 p.m. Sunday.

I've got to get down there this week, and I'll try to find you pictures.  :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Kathy on 07 August 2013, 11:48:46
Old Weather has Real World application!

For the job I dislike, but get paid for, I am prepping postcards to be posted on the Web.  Said postcards have handwritten notes and signatures, as well as what can be called printed names (for some) only generously.  The project lead said "try your best to read the names."  I just started laughing.   ;D  Please...these cards are a walk in the park.
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Post by: szukacz on 07 August 2013, 12:18:07
really cool party!
http://www.sailtraininginternational.org/home
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Post by: Helen J on 07 August 2013, 13:02:28
Old Weather has Real World application!

For the job I dislike, but get paid for, I am prepping postcards to be posted on the Web.  Said postcards have handwritten notes and signatures, as well as what can be called printed names (for some) only generously.  The project lead said "try your best to read the names."  I just started laughing.   ;D  Please...these cards are a walk in the park.

I hope you're getting paid by the card?   ;D
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Post by: Kathy on 07 August 2013, 13:13:24
lol - alas, no -
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Post by: Randi on 07 August 2013, 13:17:04
 ;D ;D
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Post by: Tegwen on 08 August 2013, 05:48:08
Thought you might like to see this.

She is HMS Caroline, one of our ships and I believe the last British WW1 warship still afloat.

I managed to take a few minutes out of a trip to Belfast recently to visit her. Sadly you cant go aboard, but I understand that money has been allocated to preserve and refurbish her.

Sorry about the picture quality, it was taken with my phone through a wire fence.

Isnt she beautiful!!

K
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Post by: Hanibal94 on 08 August 2013, 06:57:40
Very nice! Great job Tegwen.
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Post by: AvastMH on 08 August 2013, 09:01:24
What a grand old girl she is!
nice one Keith  :D
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Post by: jil on 08 August 2013, 11:40:09
Lovely!
I do hope they manage to sort out a refurb. It would be amazing to have a look around inside - the next best thing to a Tardis to visit one of our ships.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 08 August 2013, 11:45:11
The Parade of Sail yesterday was fun, and the ships will be around all weekend.  All 14 ships can call the Great Lakes their home waters right now, which makes the feel of them different from the ocean-going ships that show up at New York or London.  The weather was gray and rainy, and my camera phone failed me, so I borrowed these pictures from the Chicago Tribune picture gallery (http://galleries.apps.chicagotribune.com/chi-130807-tall-ships-chicago-2013-pictures/).  Click pics to enlarge.

This is NOT good weather for photography, although it improved towards the end.
(http://www.trbimg.com/img-1375919456/turbine/chi-ships07rain-20130807/1640)

This is the rebuilt Flagship Niagara (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Niagara_(1813)#Museum_ship), Commodore Perry's ship in the Battle of Lake Erie.  (The Peacemaker is behind her.)
(http://www.trbimg.com/img-1375919460/turbine/chi-ships07peace-20130807/1024)

This is the Lynx (http://privateerlynx.com/history.html), a museum ship which is a modern approximation of the privateers and naval schooners of the war of 1812. (Last year and this year are the bicentennial of that war.)
(http://www.trbimg.com/img-1375910302/turbine/chi-ships7skylineshot-20130807/1024)

The S?rlandet (http://www.fullriggeren-sorlandet.no/en) is currently leased to the Canadian sail training institution Class Afloat, and was the only full rigged ship present.  She is the oldest of Norway's training ships, and came in dressed overall with both the yards and the rails manned.  She is also marking the 80th anniversary of her most memorable visit to Chicago - at the 1933 World's Fair, she spent the whole summer here as Norway's pavilion.
On parade:
(http://www.trbimg.com/img-1375919461/turbine/chi-ships07lynx-20130807/1024)

Entering the harbor
(http://www.trbimg.com/img-1375919459/turbine/chi-ships07sorlandet-20130807/1024)

(http://)
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Post by: Kathy on 08 August 2013, 11:57:53
I really like the pictures - very atmospheric!
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Post by: Pommy Stuart on 08 August 2013, 17:15:36
I don't think Australia have had that number of tall ships in one place since the Bicentenary in 1988.

Happy Birthday to Wilbur Norman "Chris" Christiansen (9 August 1913, Melbourne, Australia ? 26 April 2007)
Maybe they got the pic from Zooniverse?

https://www.google.com.au/webhp?hl=en&tab=iw (https://www.google.com.au/webhp?hl=en&tab=iw)

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Post by: Tegwen on 08 August 2013, 17:53:31
Lovely pictures Janet, Thanks.
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Post by: AvastMH on 09 August 2013, 04:34:39
I don't think Australia have had that number of tall ships in one place since the Bicentenary in 1988.

Happy Birthday to Wilbur Norman "Chris" Christiansen (9 August 1913, Melbourne, Australia ? 26 April 2007)
Maybe they got the pic from Zooniverse?


Nooooo - Stuart - don't do it - don't go over to the dark side     ;) ;) ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Randi on 09 August 2013, 08:18:22
You HAVE to see this:
Rembrandt in action (http://www.youtube.com/embed/a6W2ZMpsxhg?feature=player_embedded)



If I have the link wrong, please fix it or PM me with the fix (the format I have doesn't match the example given ::)).
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 09 August 2013, 09:14:44
The link is perfect and the video is priceless.  What a wonderful way to get viral PR for an art museum!  :D

(http://www.reproductionsart.com/img/works/Rembrandt_Paintings_Reproductions_001N.jpg)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Craig on 09 August 2013, 09:19:52
Marvellous!
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Post by: Thursday Next on 09 August 2013, 11:26:33
That's brilliant!
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Post by: Thursday Next on 09 August 2013, 11:35:35
Quiz question from the final of "Only Connect":

What is the fourth in the sequence: Dardanelles / Sea of Marmora / Bosporus / ?

"Only Connect" is such a difficult quiz - it was nice to have one of those rare smug moments, thanks to OW, when I was shouting the answer at the TV before the contestants got there!

(For anyone who hasn't worked on ships in that area, the answer is Black Sea - bodies of water proceeding East to West  :) )
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: jil on 09 August 2013, 11:39:51
"Only Connect" is such a difficult quiz - it was nice to have one of those rare smug moments, thanks to OW, when I was shouting the answer at the TV before the contestants got there!

;D Me too!
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: AvastMH on 09 August 2013, 12:32:36
Quiz question from the final of "Only Connect":

What is the fourth in the sequence: Dardanelles / Sea of Marmora / Bosporus / ?

"Only Connect" is such a difficult quiz - it was nice to have one of those rare smug moments, thanks to OW, when I was shouting the answer at the TV before the contestants got there!

(For anyone who hasn't worked on ships in that area, the answer is Black Sea - bodies of water proceeding East to West  :) )

me too! - - I was out of my chair shouting it at the TV! Hurrah for Janet's map.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 09 August 2013, 13:11:22
 ;D

I never heard of that particular show, but I know the feeling!
(http://www.smileyvault.com/albums/userpics/12962/47b20s0.gif)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Thursday Next on 09 August 2013, 14:01:05
And none of you spotted my "deliberate" mistake!  (Or you were too polite to mention it  :) )  It is, of course, bodies of water proceeding West to East.  No wonder I can't get many of the questions right!  ::)

Janet - maybe a US television show will buy the format someday.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 09 August 2013, 15:10:50
I sincerely do hope you export it sometime.  My interior compass is so completely non-existent, I worry only about the order of the list and don't even look at the cardinal direction.  :P
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Tegwen on 09 August 2013, 15:14:28
You HAVE to see this:
Rembrandt in action (http://www.youtube.com/embed/a6W2ZMpsxhg?feature=player_embedded)



If I have the link wrong, please fix it or PM me with the fix (the format I have doesn't match the example given ::)).

Thanks so much for posting that Randi. It took me and my daughter straight back to last Christmas, which we spent in Amsterdam.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 11 August 2013, 17:07:59
A Google Doodle coming up for Caro I think, but when I look it is gone, look away and it's there again. (well, something like that.) 12 Aug 2013 in Australia.
Anybody guess who's Birthday it would have been from the clue before you see it? I couldn't.
https://www.google.com.au/ (https://www.google.com.au/)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Craig on 11 August 2013, 17:59:09
Not sure. The cat that's both dead and alive smacks of Shroedinger's thought experiment but it's too obscure for me.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 11 August 2013, 18:18:50
Well done Craig, spot on.
(The cat was Caro's Avatar)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 11 August 2013, 18:27:48
Thanks for the heads up.  Happy birthday, Erwin Rudolf Josef Alexander Schroedinger!  (Even if you are a dog-person not a cat-person.  :) )


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Post by: Craig on 11 August 2013, 20:35:34
He actually thought of this cat as being alive and dead at the same time - but not like a zombie. Perhaps he liked his cat after all.  ;D
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Post by: Janet Jaguar on 11 August 2013, 20:45:43
"Entanglement" producing a sense of helpless "I don't know" is about the only part of the mind experiment explanation I understand.  Quantum mechanics is denser than I want to bother with, simply because I'd rather fill that brain space with other things.  It was locking the cat in a steel box with a flask of poison and an unreliable trigger at the start of it that made me decide he didn't like cats.

I do sincerely admire and like someone who can take a subject that abstruse, and put it in such a clear visual picture.
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Post by: Maikel on 12 August 2013, 06:35:36
Just a shame that during the night thieves managed to steal the antique compass, ship's bell and binnacle. >:(

http://www.irishtimes.com/news/crime-and-law/owner-expresses-dismay-at-theft-of-items-from-sunken-sailing-ship-off-west-cork-coast-1.1479991 (http://www.irishtimes.com/news/crime-and-law/owner-expresses-dismay-at-theft-of-items-from-sunken-sailing-ship-off-west-cork-coast-1.1479991)

Some good news regarding the tall ship Astrid.
A number of the items feared stolen have been recovered. :)

http://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/owner-of-astrid-expresses-delight-at-recovery-of-items-from-tall-ship-1.1491026 (http://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/owner-of-astrid-expresses-delight-at-recovery-of-items-from-tall-ship-1.1491026)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 12 August 2013, 06:41:46
They may have been too heavy, and dropped by the thieves on the way out.  It's hard to see how else they got outside the hull.  I'm glad they are found.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Randi on 13 August 2013, 06:11:21
Sometimes there is good news: Alfredo Moser: Bottle light inventor proud to be poor (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-23536914)
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Post by: Dean on 13 August 2013, 07:56:10
WOW! What a GREAT idea!!!

Truly inventive. 8)
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Post by: Janet Jaguar on 13 August 2013, 09:09:44
That is so cool.  Nice to get good news sometimes.  :)
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Post by: AvastMH on 13 August 2013, 09:34:16
This use of fizz bottles is wonderful!  ;D ;D

(It reminds me that back in the old days of candle light you could get 'upside down stools' that had an additional longer leg in the middle - that leg carried a candle, and the outside legs carried glass balls of water that focused the candle light. The whole thing sat on a table. It was possible to get very bright spots of light for reading/sewing.)   
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Post by: Randi on 13 August 2013, 10:13:47
I remember seeing one of those in a museum - for lace-makers.

(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_7trIDXpC_dw/TOnxoyaYE6I/AAAAAAAAAq4/QyHople1We0/s200/lacemakerslight.jpg) and (http://www.cowanauctions.com/itemImages/aa6541.jpg)

and, for more details: http://lace.lacefairy.com/Lace/Gallery/LaceLamps.html
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: AvastMH on 13 August 2013, 16:29:53
Aha!! Well done and well remembered Randi - that's the very thing! The example shown with fully adjustable 'legs' is excellent - you could keep the candle well up, adjust all the balls as needed to each worker. Nice!  ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Tegwen on 15 August 2013, 04:44:13
I have just had the Western equivalent of the water bottle lights installed in my rather dark landing.

They cost a bit more than the plastic bottle ones, but they do give a beautiful & free light.

http://www.velux.co.uk/Private/Products/Sun_Tunnel

( I suspect that other manufacturers are available!!)

K
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Post by: AvastMH on 15 August 2013, 05:06:28
Very nice Keith! 8) (but where does the old black film case go in your version?? ;D ;D)
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Post by: Tegwen on 15 August 2013, 05:31:05
That Joan is the reason that these expensive western versions were developed. :)

Black plastic film cases are very difficult to get hold of now, due to digital photography so they had to create a version that didnt need them, hence the sun tunnel.

Ah progress!!!
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Post by: AvastMH on 15 August 2013, 08:29:18
Funny you should mention this - as I wrote the note I thought - ouch! digital photography's done for it!  :-\  I bet they'll find a good alternative somehow... 8)
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Post by: Janet Jaguar on 15 August 2013, 09:45:46
If you make your tunnel without water, it won't have an opening to cap.  But I think failing to extend down into the room must make for deficient spread of the light.  The high tech version is missing an advantage in the cheap.  :)
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Post by: Tegwen on 15 August 2013, 09:51:52
You are correct on both counts Janet.

I am not sure I want my tunnels full of water as it will mean that the builders installed them wrong. The tunnels could hold quite a bit, of water, which would undoubtedly end up on my landing!!

They do provide a lovely light, and plenty of it, even without the projecting bottle. It is particularly attractive at dusk, a sort of blueish glow.

Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 15 August 2013, 09:56:01
I've seen them, installed into an unusually dark kitchen in an old house.  Very useful and the light is actually comforting - I think the eye and body recognize real sunlight.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Craig on 15 August 2013, 11:04:52
Eureka! I just discovered that you can go directly to the last last posting in a multi-page thread (like this one) rather than in two steps; simply click on the last page number that is shown at the bottom of the post! It only took me a year and a half to figure that out  :-[

I also discovered the "mark read" button that gets rid of all posts you don't want to see. I wonder what other handy Forum features are waiting for me to discover.  ;D
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Post by: asterix135 on 15 August 2013, 13:06:47
Eureka! I just discovered that you can go directly to the last last posting in a multi-page thread (like this one) rather than in two steps; simply click on the last page number that is shown at the bottom of the post! It only took me a year and a half to figure that out  :-[

I also discovered the "mark read" button that gets rid of all posts you don't want to see. I wonder what other handy Forum features are waiting for me to discover.  ;D

You can also click the "New" icon that shows up in the forum listings and be taken directly to the postings you haven't yet read - nice if they're at the bottom of a longer page of a thread
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Craig on 15 August 2013, 13:33:56
Just think of how much more time I will have to transcribe weather reports  ;D
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Post by: Randi on 15 August 2013, 13:55:48
I usually just click on the "Last Post" icon at the far right...
(It will take you to the last unread post or, if you have read all the posts, to the last post.)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 15 August 2013, 17:32:57
I have set up Chrome browser tabs to start on my unread threads, Concord cruise map, Current crew and google.
Firefox is set to Transcribe and Crew that have left.
Got the lot in one go, an advantage when you are lazy like me, alt tab between them.   ;D

Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 15 August 2013, 21:37:47
"Insert Image" when sending a PM or post.
Is it set up to work? If so how?
Thanks
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 15 August 2013, 22:54:38
For posts, see Caro's Posting Links and Images (A Guide) (http://forum.oldweather.org/index.php?topic=1073.0), currently in the Library / Reference Desk (http://forum.oldweather.org/index.php?board=26.0). 

Basically, there are 2 choices.  If you have the picture from or saved on a website, click the far left icon that looks like a miniature Mona Lisa and insert your pic's web address between the bracketed codes: [img]your picture's url[/img].  If you want to upload a pic from your computer, click the + to attach it - only JPEG and GIF formats seem to work.

In PMs, only the insert pic icon works, attachments and other options never happen.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 16 August 2013, 03:15:26
Attachments were fine.
I did not realize the Insert Image needed a WEB site, I thought it just was not activated.
Thanks Janet.
S xxxx
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: AvastMH on 16 August 2013, 05:42:21
Good morning America.....
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Post by: Randi on 16 August 2013, 06:03:23
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/24/Group_of_Deck_Prisms.jpg/640px-Group_of_Deck_Prisms.jpg)

A deck prism is a prism inserted into the deck of a ship to provide light down below (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deck_prism)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: AvastMH on 16 August 2013, 06:08:27
what's with the purple one I wonder? :-\
I like juicer one  :D
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Hanibal94 on 16 August 2013, 07:18:03
How about Wild Cherry?  :D
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Randi on 16 August 2013, 07:40:15
Amethyst ?
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Craig on 16 August 2013, 08:02:29
Nice puffin loafing ledge pic, Joan.  8)

Chat is our loafing ledge  ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Helen J on 17 August 2013, 00:55:24
Nice puffin loafing ledge pic, Joan.  8)

Chat is our loafing ledge  ;D

 :D :D :D
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: AvastMH on 20 August 2013, 02:00:07
Ha! caught you all napping! Goooooood morning from the UK ;D

Today we have Coverack Bay in Cornwall (I'm not there - never mind!)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Caro on 20 August 2013, 03:51:02
Good morning Joan, good morning Coverack, good morning all.  :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 20 August 2013, 04:04:07
and I'm finally getting sleepy.  Just to enlarge the exchange of pictures, this is someone else's pic from 10 days ago - I do not have either the location or the equipment to get anything this good.  A good summer thunderstorm, coming in unusually from the east over the Lake.

(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-NlnKkW3E9pA/UhMgU7PSAOI/AAAAAAAABvw/T1cJtn7ZtMk/w702-h465-no/Chicago+summer+storm+2013.jpg)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: AvastMH on 20 August 2013, 05:44:58
That's dramatic - very Blake-like! :o 8)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Craig on 20 August 2013, 05:58:16
The buildings look as though they are leaning into the wind, bracing themselves for the worst to arrive.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Dean on 20 August 2013, 08:02:07
A bit calmer in our neighborhood on Lake Ontario. Got out for a sail yesterday.

Btw - the line is a safety line hooked to my harness which lets me roam the deck without being able to fall off when I'm alone. :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Hanibal94 on 21 August 2013, 04:47:19
Good morning OW.

I just noticed something interesting: When you look at the vessels page, all the ships have two stars next to them, except for the Bear, which has three.

Could somebody please explain the meaning of this?
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Randi on 21 August 2013, 05:48:24
I was wondering about that myself! ;D

Arfon and Stuart are working on some changes...
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: AvastMH on 21 August 2013, 08:24:46
A bit calmer in our neighborhood on Lake Ontario. Got out for a sail yesterday.

Btw - the line is a safety line hooked to my harness which lets me roam the deck without being able to fall off when I'm alone. :)

That looks lovely Dean!
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 21 August 2013, 09:41:04
Kevin is in Chicago working with Arfon and Stuart.  So several things may be happening.  New ship(s) coming fairly soon also, timing vague but encouraging. :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 22 August 2013, 06:10:12
Relaxing Doodle coming up, worth watching to the end, see if you can spot what I think is a mistake.
(It's nautical)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Kathy on 22 August 2013, 07:20:03
Was it "sponsored" by Travelers Insurance Company? It was nice - I didn't see anything that jumped out at me -
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Dean on 22 August 2013, 07:56:12
I think the row boaters were rowing stern first.

That or the ship had sails and smoke but that would have been somewhat common at that time period since they often used 'steadying sails' to increase the 'mpg.' 8)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 22 August 2013, 08:03:37
The rowboats were going stern first (which I missed at first), and the falling star was falling 'up'. 

The sails' mast on a small steamer looked remarkably like some of our ships, I'd go with it as normal.  And the umbrella wasn't anyone's logo, wrong color and shape.  I like this doodle.  :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Kathy on 22 August 2013, 08:16:43
Travelers Insurance Co's logo is a red umbrella -  ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 22 August 2013, 11:38:53
Travelers has a bright solid red umbrella with very sturdy handle that never needs your help.  This umbrellas is a shaded rose-red, with a pretty slender handle you need to hold on to.

Now I know I've been here too long, trivial is fun!! ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Kathy on 22 August 2013, 11:47:17
 ;D ;D :P
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 22 August 2013, 16:23:56
Morning all.
Back to the plain old Google.

Look at the way the rowers are facing and the direction they are both going.
Yes the lady was stern first.
I think the star was a shooting star, don't see many now days since they banned hunting.

I liked the way the lights, smoke and other stuff was in line with the music.
Not playing the piano I don't know if the window lights were close to the key positions.

Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 22 August 2013, 16:39:24
It's still playing by me, so I checked.  No, there aren't anywhere near enough windows at any one time, and sliding them all out of sight so they have to move puts the final kibosh on it.  But the synchronizing with the music and approximate right and left movement are perfect.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: AvastMH on 22 August 2013, 17:50:10
There are a few times when a repeated note lights up, for instance, the line of double street lights, but it's not reliable.
Gosh it's nice.
There is a place on google where they keep the old googles - this one is very nice and I'd be happy to try it out again sometime. Very romantic end.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 22 August 2013, 18:25:38
http://www.google.com/doodles/finder/2013/All%20doodles (http://www.google.com/doodles/finder/2013/All%20doodles)
I think that's the one you want Joan.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: AvastMH on 22 August 2013, 18:32:03
oh - yes! Thank you Stuart.  :D
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Helen J on 22 August 2013, 23:00:55
400 pages of chat!  How do we ever find time to do anything else ....   ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Dean on 22 August 2013, 23:04:50
400 pages of chat!  How do we ever find time to do anything else ....   ;D

I wondered if anyone would notice! ;)

Guess that's evidence of our 'careful examination of the data!!' 8)

Addicted??!! MOI??!! :o
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Helen J on 22 August 2013, 23:09:37
I'm choosing to take it as evidence of my wonderful attention to detail, and being tuned in to figures.  The reality is probably more to do with the fact that I'm sitting in a small hot flat in Korea with rain tipping down outside, and so am very much looking for ways to amuse myself!
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: AvastMH on 23 August 2013, 01:37:35
 ;D ;D
Page 1 - October 12th 2010; lots of 'hello's with tea  and coffee attached..except Geoff (the old sea-salt) who attached rum. It ended with the proposal of champagne. Well -it's good for the brain to keep up your fluids.
Page 100 was October 2011, a year on, and the banner headline was 'We want more logs'. Tastiger reckoned only 72,000 pages left (which is enough to get Sylvia through the morning..oh great transcriber!) and this led to some heavy statistical analysis about how long it would take us to finish. The page featured some old names...Jennfur, Bunts, Heffkit.
Page 200 saw us back a year ago starting with August 13th 2012, eight months on. Randi had just taken the King's Shilling - well the Moderator's Penny - and had stepped up to the plate. Dean said "We shall TRY to behave!!"....erm...well.
Page 300 came in January 2013, just 5 months on, when we were all locked in snow in the UK, Dean was putting stones in his pockets and glueing his hat to his head in a Beaufort scale 8-10, and we were busy discussing chain lengths and weights. Poor Szukacz was beset by an ice storm whilst Stuart fried down South.
Page 400 - 23rd August 2013, 7 months on (so we must be slowing up a bit) and we have been busy debating Debussy (thanks to Google) and also that we have clocked up 400 pages - thanks to HelenJ (currently out East) and Dean (currently still West).
Here's to the next 100!
Joan
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: szukacz on 23 August 2013, 03:03:12
How quickly the time goes.

       /I
       /I
       /I
\..SzukacZ../


fixed  :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Caro on 23 August 2013, 03:04:37
Morning all. Love your little boat, szukacz!
Carry on chatting ...  :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: jil on 23 August 2013, 04:42:21
Happy 400!

An amazing clip of noctilucent clouds and aurora from North Scotland - http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-23779447#
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Helen J on 23 August 2013, 04:56:45
And congratulations on being the author of the 6000th reply in the thread!  :D
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: AvastMH on 23 August 2013, 07:14:18
Happy 400!

An amazing clip of noctilucent clouds and aurora from North Scotland - http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-23779447#

Oh No ! I scoured the webcams of Scotland/NOrway last night in the hope of a view of something. The NOAA POES site showed a very extensive aurora area.   Fab picture!
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: jil on 23 August 2013, 08:08:00
And congratulations on being the author of the 6000th reply in the thread!  :D
Wow! I didn't spot that or that it would actually end up on page 401  ::)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Craig on 23 August 2013, 09:34:46
Try deleting one of your previous posts, Jil. You might be able to nudge your last message back one page  ;D

Nice retrospective, Joan  8)

Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Randi on 23 August 2013, 09:49:33
Try deleting one of your previous posts, Jil. You might be able to nudge your last message back one page  ;D

Nice retrospective, Joan  8)

Yes, excellent!
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 23 August 2013, 11:08:04
Try deleting one of your previous posts, Jil. You might be able to nudge your last message back one page  ;D

Nice retrospective, Joan  8)

But then she would be reply #5999.  :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Craig on 23 August 2013, 12:05:17
Sharing the 400th page with other members has to be more valuable than a solo exploit ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Randi on 23 August 2013, 12:11:29
Nothing to do with ships or weather, but interesting:
'Space beads' push back origins of iron working
Ancient Egyptians heated and hammered meteorite metal into ornaments (http://www.sciencenews.org/view/generic/id/352642/description/Space_beads_push_back_origins_of_iron_working)

And a 'public service message':
Impactful Distraction
Talking while driving poses dangers that people seem unable to see (http://www.sciencenews.org/view/feature/id/352266/description/Impactful_Distraction)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Craig on 23 August 2013, 20:01:41
Interesting articles, Randi. We have a law in Quebec against using cell phones while driving, although hands-free phones are allowed. At least the law favours keeping hands on the wheel, if not the mind on the road.

Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Steeleye on 24 August 2013, 18:04:11
This one has to be shared.  The 'Feedback' page of this week's New Scientist magazine has the following little gem:

"Being 'somewhat deaf', Ted Webber had the subtitles on for the televised keynote speech at a meeting of the National Press Club of Australia. During her discourse, Suzanne Cory, president of the Australian Academy of Science, referred to Professor Brian Smith as an 'Australian Nobel laureate'. The subtitles rendered this as 'noble lawyer rat'. "

Is the the ultimate 'lawyer joke'?
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 24 August 2013, 18:57:56
Just got this error message after entering a page of weather and clicking the button.
Closed the OW tab and re-opened it, similar message.
Restarted browser same message.

Posted also in interface problems.

Win7 & Firefox.
Also Win 7 & IE

Craig had the same problem. Wait and re-boot seems to have fixed it. The programmers may know what the problem is.


(Nice one Steeleye)  %^)
Also from New Scientist 27/07/2013. The Last Word.
"By the way, US Navy cooks traditionally cracked a raw egg into brewing coffee to clarify the Joe."
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 24 August 2013, 23:47:18
Quote
(Nice one Steeleye)  %^)
Also from New Scientist 27/07/2013. The Last Word.
"By the way, US Navy cooks traditionally cracked a raw egg into brewing coffee to clarify the Joe."
[/quote
Be polite in your laughter - my grandmother did the same thing when she was making a very large urn of coffee for a big to-do and wanted it to taste very good. :)

I passed the error message problem upstairs.  It being weekend, expect a long wait.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Caro on 25 August 2013, 05:07:17
Good morning OW.
Lovely weather around here: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-23827999
 ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Randi on 25 August 2013, 06:20:51
...
I passed the error message problem upstairs.  It being weekend, expect a long wait.

Pretty short wait ;)

We had a problem with our database server earlier which should be fixed now. Please reply on this thread if you're still getting this error.

Cheers
Arfon

 ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Craig on 25 August 2013, 06:54:41
It was raining cats and dogs here last night. Well ... raining one cat, at least. It fell through our skylight. I heard the the screen fall to the floor but thought I was dreaming. Then I heard a cat crying. At first I thought it was outside our window but my wife said no, it was in our bedroom. We turned on the lights and there it was - a pretty young black cat with white trim. Fortunately, it wanted outside and ran out when I opened the door. It must have climbed a tree near our house to get onto the roof. Our last two cats have just shown up at our place and adopted us. I wasn't ready for another one quite yet - especially one that breaks and enters homes. Our previous cat, Charley, died last October. It was a windy, blustery night and it went out as usual but never returned. We never found any trace of him.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Randi on 25 August 2013, 06:59:07
That's hard. I know how much I miss our cats. Our previous cat adopted us. Someone gave her to our neighbor, but she moved in with us.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Hanibal94 on 25 August 2013, 11:37:29
Good afternoon, everybody.
Today, I will show you how to face your fears. (http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=6DeBfvPiFN0)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 25 August 2013, 16:25:31
OoooooooooooooooKay ?
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: AvastMH on 25 August 2013, 17:19:48
Good evening Hanibal94.
Ermmmmmmmmmmmmm....think you might have confused us with that one.......
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Randi on 25 August 2013, 17:39:23
Maybe the 'teacher' panicking when the toast suddenly pops up?
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 25 August 2013, 17:59:52
I thought it was time to change my Avatar. Bad move. Cannot see it now.
Went to Profile/forum profile/upload/ picked picture from my PC and updated.  Message picture to large or not avatar. (Pic was less than 250k)

Then tried Profile/forum/specify by url/ copied site url and updated. Page now shows url but post shows no picture.

Tried still pics (.gif & .jpg) tried animated .gifs.

I hate Fridays Mondays.

Anybody help?
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Randi on 25 August 2013, 18:04:32
I don't know, but try using just: http://www.123gifs.eu/free-gifs/man/mann-0035.gif
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Craig on 25 August 2013, 18:26:16
Just keep your blank box, Stuart. I used to have to wear my sunglasses because your searchlight blinded me  ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Randi on 25 August 2013, 18:34:02
Mine is 65px ? 65px and 1.61kb :-\
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 25 August 2013, 18:36:41
Seems to be working now.  Now I am not sure what made it work. I think it was when I changed it in Zooniverse or maybe it just takes time to sail from Australia to the UK.

Glad I brightened up your day Craig.  :P
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Helen J on 25 August 2013, 22:44:28
Glad you managed to get it to work - it's fun!
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 25 August 2013, 22:49:03
The lighthouse is still there - what were you trying for?  And was that new avatar online someplace or still on your computer?  Because it has to look online, but then my avatar was reassigned a forum url, from where they refiled it.

I do like the lighthouse.  :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 25 August 2013, 23:00:05
Hi Janet.
I tried both locations.
The new avatar now shows up on my pc.
Maybe it only shows up when you log out and back.

Sometimes I look through the telescope, other times I just beat my head with it.  ;D

I will keep the lighthouse for when I need to brighten up a bit.  %^)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Caro on 26 August 2013, 03:55:50
Morning all. I like the new one, Stuart.  :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: AvastMH on 26 August 2013, 05:02:51
love the new avatar Stuart.. ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 26 August 2013, 05:05:31
Ta.
 ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Hanibal94 on 26 August 2013, 06:04:11
That new avatar is nice!

Note: If you can't see it, try emptying your cache. Worked for me.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Dean on 26 August 2013, 16:23:42
Yep!  Cute! ;D

BTW - I aslo had to clear the browser cache to make it work.  Logging in and out didn't work. :P
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Craig on 26 August 2013, 17:26:27
Still too frenetic, Stuart. Try paddling more slowly - we have many year's worth of logs to complete and there's no point in getting tired.  ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Randi on 26 August 2013, 18:16:02
 ;D ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 27 August 2013, 03:00:50
I cannot make everybody happy.
Any one of these take your fancy Craig?   :P
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Craig on 27 August 2013, 06:00:12
The one you chose is great, Stuart!  ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 27 August 2013, 06:24:19
Hooray.   :P
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Maikel on 28 August 2013, 04:11:12
Some of you have mentioned the Tardis as a useful tool in the past.
Have you had a look at the Police Telephone Box (https://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&ll=51.492159,-0.19092&spn=0.005291,0.013937&sll=51.492140,-0.193028&layer=c&cid=12502927659667388442&panoid=c9UMhWP_MWm9U0L48xEjYw&cbp=13,291.8,,0,18.86&gl=US&t=m&cbll=51.492132,-0.192862&z=17) in Google Maps?
Click the double arrows.

Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: AvastMH on 28 August 2013, 05:07:23
That's great! ;D
If you want to get the full vibes with some Whovian music try this (BUT NOT AT HOME!!! :o :o :o):
http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=PdrqdW4Miao
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 29 August 2013, 00:26:17
Where can I play with one of those?

It would be one more off the bucket list.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: AvastMH on 29 August 2013, 03:34:39
Just make sure you put the clobber on correctly Stuart - or you'll be dealing with the bucket and not the list.....  :o ;) ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 29 August 2013, 04:07:22
I suppose dealing with the bucket is better than kicking it.  :o

Seriously, I would love to try it.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: AvastMH on 29 August 2013, 06:41:15
Perhaps the bungee jumper organizers could start up sessions for those who really can't take the vertigo of bridge jumping? :-\
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 29 August 2013, 21:37:45
Joan.
You could almost call this Horizontal Bungee jumping.
xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sorry about the pre adv.



I think this is what you need to use:
http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=Q-UvZ35QnnE
(http://forum.oldweather.org/index.php?topic=18.msg69057#msg69057)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: AvastMH on 30 August 2013, 03:13:12
The ref is already changed to the pop up version...isn't it? :-\
Confused of etc etc
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Craig on 02 September 2013, 10:03:19
It's Labour Day here in Canada. I'm still working on the logs, though  ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 02 September 2013, 11:04:21
It' Labor Day here in the US.  I'm going out to treat myself at a movie, and maybe construct a picnic of sorts.  :D

And it's very good to share a holiday with our best neighbor. 8)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Craig on 02 September 2013, 11:23:28
Indeed, Janet, even though we don't agree on the spelling of labour.  :D :P

I notice in the 1850s the U.S. ships' logs I have seen have the British spelling.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 02 September 2013, 11:25:37
Indeed, Janet, even though we don't agree on the spelling of labour.  :D :P

I notice in the 1850s the U.S. ships' logs I have seen have the British spelling.

It took us a while to weed out some the extra oddness of English spelling?  ;) ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Craig on 02 September 2013, 12:01:58
Twitter will finish the job.  ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: AvastMH on 02 September 2013, 12:46:11
Twitter will finish the job.  ;D

Nooooooooooo! :o I'm going to start a new protest group - 'save our useless vowels'.   ;) ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Caro on 02 September 2013, 12:54:27
English spelling makes no sense wherever it is used. Why take the 'u' out of neighbour but leave the 'eigh' as it is?  :o :-X ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: jil on 02 September 2013, 13:45:03
A very timely episode of Fry's English Delight (http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b039c5cs) on Radio 4 today on the weirdness of English spelling!
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Caro on 02 September 2013, 15:23:09
'As Stephen Fry puts it "I before e except after c. Weird!" '  ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Thursday Next on 02 September 2013, 15:27:47
And I thought it was "E before I, except after Y" - as in "yield" ...  ::)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: AvastMH on 02 September 2013, 15:28:21
Starter word: Ghoti
pronunciation?: 'Fish'
that's 'gh' as in to cough
and 'o' as in women
and 'ti' as in station

Happy spelling bees!  ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Dean on 02 September 2013, 15:32:45
Happy Labour Day - HOWEVER you spell it!

Picnic would be fine, Janet but it's rainy and windy here. NOT good for a sail!  :-[

I've been doing so much editing in the 'Queen's English' my spell checker has learned it and my friends wonder and comment about my spelling!! ::)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 02 September 2013, 19:03:23
I admit we only shaved off a few rough edges.  The whole dictionary is beyond salvage, as far as logical spelling rules go.   ::) :P
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 03 September 2013, 03:53:20
Wot yer say misiz.  ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Caro on 03 September 2013, 04:36:06
Propa speling is rekwyrd in this thred.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Hanibal94 on 04 September 2013, 03:03:10
Good morning OW.
Here is your laff of the day: The magic beard (http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=zEYCPc9P-Q0)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Caro on 04 September 2013, 03:23:54
Good morning Hanibal.
That was a weird start to the day.  :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: szukacz on 04 September 2013, 07:27:22
Hello,
Greetings from the Walkie Talkie  building in London  8)
Do not expose your Jaguar to be eaten.  8)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Randi on 04 September 2013, 07:44:09
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-09-03/london-walkie-talkie-owners-probe-tower-s-car-melting-light-ray.html :o
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Helen J on 04 September 2013, 12:41:57
Just been listening to a Radio 4 reporter trying (and failing) to fry an egg in the heat from the building ...
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Kathy on 04 September 2013, 13:22:34
how goofy is that video  :P
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 04 September 2013, 17:29:21
Hello,
Greetings from the Walkie Talkie  building in London  8)
Do not expose your Jaguar to be eaten.  8)

Would it cook an Angry Bird?   :P
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 04 September 2013, 18:24:36
Good morning OW.
Here is your laff of the day: The magic beard (http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=zEYCPc9P-Q0)

That's a guy with much too much idle time on his hands!!  :)

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-09-03/london-walkie-talkie-owners-probe-tower-s-car-melting-light-ray.html :o
Just been listening to a Radio 4 reporter trying (and failing) to fry an egg in the heat from the building ...

New architecture sometimes has unintended consequences - Helen, how long did the reporter give the egg to cook?  he's roasting it slowly there, not frying it fast.  :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: AvastMH on 04 September 2013, 19:10:05
Good morning OW.
Here is your laff of the day: The magic beard (http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=zEYCPc9P-Q0)
(Normally I hate this kind of stuff - but I've got to admit) - that had me in stitches.   ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 05 September 2013, 02:56:45
Anybody know what W.W. stands for?
Last line
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Concord/vol018of040/vol018of040_212_1.jpg (http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Concord/vol018of040/vol018of040_212_1.jpg)
Kelly had just been declared dead a few days before by drowning, body not found.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Randi on 05 September 2013, 03:00:50
I think it is D.D. rather than W.W. :-\

Possibly: Discharged Dead
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Caro on 05 September 2013, 03:08:04
Yes, it was Discharged Dead in the RN logbooks.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 05 September 2013, 04:03:59
Thanks.
DD it is.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Hanibal94 on 05 September 2013, 15:36:31
Hello,
Greetings from the Walkie Talkie  building in London  8)
Do not expose your Jaguar to be eaten.  8)

Would it cook an Angry Bird?   :P

(http://www.kletka.net/uploads/posts/2012-01/1327253672_no-meme.jpg)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 05 September 2013, 16:14:11
Good. I hate the smell of burning feathers.  %^)

(Love the self portrait)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 06 September 2013, 18:02:44
Most may not get (see) this Doodle as it is specific for AU for 7 Sept.
https://www.google.com.au/

Not the best they have done but then the subject is boring (for some).
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 06 September 2013, 18:27:19
A very colorful, useful reminder.  I'm sure we'll tell you if it turns up anywhere the other side of your world.  :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Dean on 07 September 2013, 07:58:43
Had to share this from the local Newspaper this morning!! ::)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 07 September 2013, 09:11:59
Thank you!!  That one is perfect, given some of our log keepers.   ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: studentforever on 07 September 2013, 09:19:43
I fear that with the increasing reliance on satnavs etc that may become only too true to life.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Dean on 07 September 2013, 09:57:53
I fear that with the increasing reliance on satnavs etc that may become only too true to life.

SatNav, GPS, etc. is great as long as the power stays on!!

I was out sailing on another boat (not mine) a couple weeks ago when they had a power failure just as the fog started to roll in! After the initial 'panic' I calmly reached into my sailing bag and pulled out my portable GPS that I ALWAYS carry and booted it up. I ALSO always keep a 'mental picture' of where we are so the 'panic' became just a 'teachable moment' to those on board. (WILL ADMIT to a 'scare factor'  :o on my part thinking of navigating back into the harbour by GPS - but the fog thinned before we got home! ;))
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: studentforever on 07 September 2013, 11:11:19
Glad you are all safe. I was thinking of all the drivers who have blindly followed their satnavs into fords after heavy downpours, got their lorries stuck in villages with narrow roads etc etc.  Despite roadside signs they seem to blindly follow the 'voice'.  There is a suggestion of a new road sign to indicate 'Ignore satnav instructions in this area'.  But some of them will ignore that too, no doubt.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 07 September 2013, 11:37:29
It can be worse in a desert; there was a story this year of 3 women whose GPS sent them wrong places in Death Valley.  The temp that day there had a high of 121oF (49oC).

http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=N1ISZq0R1-I
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Thursday Next on 07 September 2013, 11:46:10
Had to share this from the local Newspaper this morning!! ::)

That's wonderful!  ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Hanibal94 on 11 September 2013, 02:22:41
Good morning OW.
I see the first of our reinforcements has arrived - and in bite size pieces too.
I might check it out, but first I MUST finish the Jeanette.
Furthermore, Unalga II and Yukon are both stuck. I've gone as far as I could on each of them.
They both have far fewer logs than most ships, and often less than 24 WR per day.
Anybody here willing to step up and finish the job?
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: AvastMH on 11 September 2013, 03:09:15
Thanks Hanibal94, I'm principally doing the Patterson - but I'll filter in some Unalga II as I've already got a bit of  a start there I see. Nice to know that one of the boats is a third finished though! ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Randi on 11 September 2013, 05:56:50
Craig might want Unalga II ;)

I'm sticking with Jamestown 1844 for now, then I will probably go back to Yukon I.
None of those newfangled steam engines for me ;D



P.S. There is a third person working on Jeannette - camiller.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Craig on 11 September 2013, 06:57:37
That's a perfect candidate for vertically transcription. There are so many variables on the page that it's easy to get lost. And with the narrow rows and no gap you could fill all 24 hours for one variable without even moving the box. I don't like all the different handwriting but at least it is legible.

You might want someone who is willing to record all the people mentions, though  ;D

Quote
RUGE, Donald H. (262-455) 5 i/c    was injured while assist-ing in lowering pontoon hatch cover, being pinned between hatch cover and boat cradle. Diagnoses: 1. Simple complete transverse fracture, left middle third humerus. 2. Abrasions, multiple, left arm, hip, and side, 3. Contusions, left arm, ribs, side, and hip.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Randi on 11 September 2013, 09:00:28
Matteo has probably done that ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: propriome on 11 September 2013, 09:28:34
Yep :)

All crewmember and officers (plus visitors - there have been a lot of passengers, military and civilians, on the Seattle/Alaska trip) mentioned in logs of Unalga II should be already in the Crew List topic (http://forum.oldweather.org/index.php?topic=3500.0)...

The whole 1947 (January to December) and the period April-December 1946 should be covered (don't know if there are more records now - I still cannot access that ship).

Also all mentioned places should be present in the topics of the Geographical Help Board, since Alaska, Canada (British Columbia) and US non Alaskan placenames list have been built up almost entirely with Unalga (II) voyages.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Craig on 11 September 2013, 09:35:09
That's dedication, Matteo  8)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: propriome on 11 September 2013, 09:59:35
Thank you very much Craig :)

It has been a funny task, and less difficult/boring than what it could seem.
Unalga (II) was overall a pleasant ship to work on... enjoy the transcription! ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Craig on 11 September 2013, 10:16:42
I don't see your name in the crew list for Ungala (II), Matteo  ???
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 11 September 2013, 10:24:16
Unalga I and II started out merged, and the crew list never did get correctly sorted when Arfon separated the two vessels.  One of the reasons why they probably won't try to separate the 2 Yukons from their current merger.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: AvastMH on 11 September 2013, 17:24:13
The Albatross 1890 looks like it will be fun.
I tested the first 5 pages and so far have had :
One in double irons for smuggling liqour on board.
One discharge bad conduct.
One deserter
and twice sent out a search party for men drowned.

Short comments on Misc page should be an easy ship to do.

Back to Concord now with its long comments.  %^(

Cor! They sound like  a dangerous bunch of brigands to me - what fun! 8) :D
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 11 September 2013, 17:31:05
Hi Joan.
We must have been typing at the same time.
Moved the comment to the Albatross 1890 comments page.

Notice how the good crew follow me around (NOT)  %^)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 11 September 2013, 17:32:41
And they are not even a war ship, not even Coast Guard.  :D
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: AvastMH on 11 September 2013, 17:41:54
Hi Joan.
We must have been typing at the same time.
Moved the comment to the Albatross 1890 comments page.

Notice how the good crew follow me around (NOT)  %^)

Yep - couldn't believe it...very funny...great influence you have on the past  ;) ;) 8) ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 11 September 2013, 17:59:29
RIP 9/11
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 11 September 2013, 18:21:49
Thank you.  I've been pondering both our losses and the aftermath off-and-on all day long.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: AvastMH on 12 September 2013, 06:51:47
One of our UK TV channels has been running several short documentaries about different events on that day.They have been very poignant.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 12 September 2013, 23:27:57
There were videos, pics on the news just now showing a Lake Michigan waterspout(s) like I've never seen on this side of the lake in my life.  Awesome power, and more than a bit scary.  They were just north of the Illinois/Wisconsin border.  Storms that violent just don't tend to twist like that near our shore, I don't know why.  There was a report of a sailboat caught, but no debris found - I think all with small boats got immediately out of the way of that violent storm.

merged into one big one video (http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?feature=player_embedded&v=XWPIqfWr9eM)

(http://www.theepochtimes.com/n3/eet-content/uploads/2013/09/waterspoutslakemichigan-676x450.jpg)

(http://resources0.news.com.au/images/2013/09/13/1226718/372612-aptopix-water-spout-lake-michigan.jpg)
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Post by: Caro on 13 September 2013, 02:56:58
Wow. That is scary.

Morning, world.
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Post by: studentforever on 13 September 2013, 03:51:53
Yep, getting out of the way would seem a good idea.  Glad things are a bit gentler this side of the pond.
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Post by: Craig on 13 September 2013, 06:38:04
We've had some unseasonably warm and humid weather up here, with a threat of voilent thunder storms that didn't materialize. It could be the same weather system that produced those frightning spouts. The poor sail boat must have end up in Oz (not the one down under, of course).
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Post by: Randi on 13 September 2013, 08:21:43
 :o :o :o
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Post by: Kathy on 13 September 2013, 09:20:46
I wonder if Harry Dresden was mixing it up with something?  ;D
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Post by: Caro on 13 September 2013, 09:42:55
Apparently it's Friday the 13th .... http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/sep/13/friday-13th-flight-666-hel?CMP=twt_gu
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Post by: Caro on 13 September 2013, 11:31:18
Hello. We're back. Server trouble today.
No interface yet, as far I know.
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Post by: Janet Jaguar on 13 September 2013, 12:00:14
Interface just came back up.  Hope it stays this time.  :)
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Post by: studentforever on 13 September 2013, 13:19:04
Hands up - who was joking about Friday 13th!!
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Post by: Janet Jaguar on 13 September 2013, 14:43:43
The blackout interupted my intention to say, I didn't experience bad things on Friday the 13th!!!  That proved me wrong!!!! ::)
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Post by: Maikel on 13 September 2013, 14:46:55
Are you being served?
What was the cast up to this time? :D

U.S.S. Yorktown, at anchor Callao, Peru

Sent steam launch out in search of Grace Brother's boat which had been reported as missing with four men. The latter boat was picked up and towed into the harbor by the French steamer.

http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Yorktown/vol007of040_cr2_to_jpg/vol007of040_065_1.jpg (http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Yorktown/vol007of040_cr2_to_jpg/vol007of040_065_1.jpg)
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Post by: Janet Jaguar on 13 September 2013, 15:06:15
I don't know about the 13th, but some folks got really lucky on the 12th - by a ticket to fly anywhere you want for $10 or less? ;)

http://www.chicagotribune.com/travel/chi-united-fares-20130912,0,1126614.story
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Post by: Caro on 13 September 2013, 15:21:43
Are you being served?
What was the cast up to this time? :D

U.S.S. Yorktown, at anchor Callao, Peru

Sent steam launch out in search of Grace Brother's boat which had been reported as missing with four men. The latter boat was picked up and towed into the harbor by the French steamer.

http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Yorktown/vol007of040_cr2_to_jpg/vol007of040_065_1.jpg (http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Yorktown/vol007of040_cr2_to_jpg/vol007of040_065_1.jpg)

 ;D Well I never.
Some crew members pictured here.

(http://ichef.bbci.co.uk/images/ic/512xn/legacy/supporting/630d9477fba25c3bb6291e9109d4e41e4040b8dd.jpg?nodefault=true)

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Post by: Janet Jaguar on 13 September 2013, 19:14:51
Happy Birthday, Randy!

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-45-4rz1OHzM/Ucc03NI8CaI/AAAAAAAAAmI/8YSIpc8GwUY/w801-h456-no/All_20110517104025_Happy+Birthday+2_284.jpg)
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Post by: Randi on 14 September 2013, 02:30:51
Thank you, Janet.
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Post by: studentforever on 14 September 2013, 03:23:57
Many Happy Returns!!
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Post by: Caro on 14 September 2013, 04:08:05
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v738/LadyFire/Cats/cat-n-bd-cake.gif)

 Happy birthday Randi

               :) :-*                                               
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Post by: jil on 14 September 2013, 04:29:38
Randi, have a great day!
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Post by: Craig on 14 September 2013, 06:12:00
Bonne anniversaire, Randi!
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Post by: AvastMH on 14 September 2013, 06:49:44
Have a jolly fine birthday Randi !!   ;D ;D ;D  :-*
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Post by: Dean on 14 September 2013, 08:12:26
Randi

   Happy Birthday to you,
   Happy Birthday to you,
   Happy Birthday dear Raaaaaaaaannnnnnnnddddddiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii,
   Happy Birthday to you!

Hope it's a happy one and that you get lots of neat presents!
Hope also you get to share with family!

Blessings, Dean

Do not be afraid of Tomorrow,
for God is already there.
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Post by: Helen J on 14 September 2013, 10:50:37
Enjoy your birthday, Randi!  Perhaps even take an hour or two off OW?  (But don't go mad ....)
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Post by: propriome on 14 September 2013, 10:54:17
Happy birthday Randi!!!   :) :)
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Post by: Thursday Next on 14 September 2013, 12:37:23
Happy Birthday, Randi!  Have a great day!
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Post by: Randi on 14 September 2013, 13:27:22
Thank you, everyone!

Some friends took me to see another old ruin this afternoon ;D
The Oppidum d'Entremont, built by the Salyes  (http://encyclopedia.thefreedictionary.com/Salluvii) about 180 BC.
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Post by: Janet Jaguar on 14 September 2013, 14:14:55
How fascinating.  I'd never heard of them, looks like a hill-fort or walled estate.  Cool. :)
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Post by: camiller on 14 September 2013, 14:42:48
Happy Belated birthday, Randi!

Carolyn
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Post by: Randi on 14 September 2013, 14:44:39
Thank you!
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Post by: Kathy on 14 September 2013, 15:39:49
For Randi on her 111th birthday 

So today is the day of your birth,
(Or yesterday? Tomorrow?  It's based on your berth.)
I just wanted to say, hope you have a great day,
With plenty of chocolate and mirth!
 :-*
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Post by: Randi on 14 September 2013, 15:54:05
Thanks, Kathy!
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Post by: szukacz on 14 September 2013, 18:35:50
1 ::) ::) for Randi !!!

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Post by: Pommy Stuart on 14 September 2013, 21:15:47
Pictures for Sabastian. Tycho Braye.
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Post by: Hanibal94 on 15 September 2013, 01:41:00
Good morning OW.
I just found out about this year's Ig Nobel Prizes: For research that first makes you laugh and then makes you think.


Medicine Prize: Masateru Uchiyama, Gi Zhang, Toshihito Hirai, Atsushi Amano, Hisashi Hashuda (Japan), Xiangyuan Jin (China/Japan) and Masanori Niimi (Japan/UK) for assessing the effect of listening to opera on mice heart transplant patients.

Psychology Prize: Laurent B?gue, Oulmann Zerhouni, Baptiste Subra, and Medhi Ourabah, (France), Brad Bushman (USA/UK/, the Netherlands/Poland) for confirming that people who think they are drunk also think they are more attractive.

Joint Prize in Biology and Astronomy: Marie Dacke (Sweden/Australia), Emily Baird, Eric Warrant (Sweden/Australia/Germany], Marcus Byrne (South Africa/UK) and Clarke Scholtz (South Africa), for discovering that when dung beetles get lost, they can navigate their way home by looking at the milky way.

Safety Engineering Prize: The late Gustano Pizzo (US), for inventing an electro-mechanical system to trap airplane hijackers. The system drops a hijacker through trap doors, seals him into a package, then drops the hijacker through the airplane's specially-installed bomb bay doors through which he is parachuted to the ground where police, having been alerted by radio, await his arrival.

Physics Prize: Alberto Minetti (Italy/UK/Denmark/Switzerland), Yuri Ivanenko (Italy/Russia/France), Germana Cappellini, Francesco lacquaniti (Italy) and Nadia Dominici (Italy/Switzerland), for discovering that some people would be physically capable of running across the surface of a pond - if those people and that pond were on the Moon.

Chemistry Prize: Shinsuke Imai, Nobuaki Tsuge, Muneaki Tomotake, Yoshiaki Nagatome, Hidehiko Kumgai (Japan) and Toshiyuki Nagata (Japan/Germany), for discovering that the biochemical process by which onions make people cry is even more complicated than scientists previously realised.

Archaeology Prize: Brian Crandall (US) and Peter Stahl (Canada/US), for observing how the bones of a swallowed dead shrew dissolve inside the human digestive system.

Peace Prize: Alexander Lukashenko, president of Belarus, for making it illegal to applaud in public, and to the Belarus State Police, for arresting a one-armed man for applauding.

Probability Prize: Bert Tolkamp (UK/the Netherlands), Marie Haskell, Fritha Langford. David Roberts, and Colin Morgan (UK), for making two related discoveries: First, that the longer a cow has been lying down, the more likely that cow will soon stand up; and second, that once a cow stands up, you cannot easily predict how soon that cow will lie down again.

Public Health Prize: Kasian Bhanganada, Tu Chayavatana, Chumporn Pongnumkul, Anunt Tonmukayakul, Piyasakol Sakolsatayadorn, Krit Komaratal, and Henry Wilde (Thailand), for the medical techniques of penile re-attachment after amputations (often by jealous wives). Techniques which they recommend, except in cases where the amputated penis had been partially eaten by a duck.
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Post by: Randi on 15 September 2013, 03:53:10
Thank you, szukacz!
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Post by: jil on 15 September 2013, 04:38:02
 ;D  :o &  8) to the Ig Nobel prizes
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Post by: Caro on 16 September 2013, 02:39:58
Good morning world.
I like the winner of the Ig Nobel Probability Prize best.  :)
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Post by: Maikel on 16 September 2013, 10:30:40
Yesterday I read an article about the find of a submarine in the vicinity of Texel, The Netherlands.
It is presumed to be British WW1 submarine E26.

The original article (in Dutch) can be found at the newspaper "Noordhollands Dagblad".
It also has some of the sonar images.

www.noordhollandsdagblad.nl/stadstreek/denhelder/article24570173.ece/Duikboot-WO1-gevonden-bij-Texel (http://www.noordhollandsdagblad.nl/stadstreek/denhelder/article24570173.ece/Duikboot-WO1-gevonden-bij-Texel)

I haven't been able to find an article in English, so here is my best translation.


TEXEL - On the western side of the Razende Bol near the Dutch island of Texel a wreck was discovered, presumably of a British submarine from WW1.

Sonar images made by Hans Eelman near the village of Oudeschild show the wreck laying in what are considered popular fishing grounds.
There is a considerable risk of unexploded torpedoes.

Eelman has reported his find to the KLPD [Korps Landelijke Politiediensten - National Police Services Agency].
The wreck lays at a depth of about eight meters.
Eelman is fairly confident that the submarine is E36, a submarine with a crew of thirty that was lost and never heard from again in the area in 1917 after a collision with it's sister ship the E43.

The wreck is about fifty meters long.
This corresponds with the length of submarines of the E-type.
These were about fifty-five metres long and carried armaments that included five torpedoes.

Eelman: "On a German Kriegsmarine chart dated 1939, and updated until 1945, the water depth for this location is listed at around 2,5 meters.
A submarine of this size can't have been sailing there at that time, so we are looking at a submarine from WW1."
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Post by: lollia paolina on 16 September 2013, 11:52:33
Thank you for the translation, Maikel :)

And for sharing a very interesting news :)
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Post by: studentforever on 16 September 2013, 12:21:20
Keep us posted Maikel.  You are more likely to get early news than the rest of us and if it is one of 'our' submarines it would be good to pay tribute to its crew.
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Post by: Randi on 16 September 2013, 14:32:29
Pictures of modern sail loft, from Dean: http://forum.oldweather.org/index.php?topic=3209.msg52138#msg52138
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Post by: AvastMH on 16 September 2013, 14:40:51
I've been sewing since I was 6 years old - but I never had to worry about the customers accidentally stepping into my lap.  :o ;D
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Post by: Janet Jaguar on 16 September 2013, 15:12:40
Really amazing!!  Easy to see why they could be used to hold large Sunday services on occasion.  Thanks, Dean.
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Post by: Kathy on 16 September 2013, 23:44:50
A friend sent this along to me -

http://www.youtube.com/embed/MDOrzF7B2Kg?rel=0


Gotta love the sailors - no matter what they sail.

What a shock - that is our Washington Navy Yard!


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Post by: Janet Jaguar on 17 September 2013, 00:14:43
Thank you for finding this, reminding us of the good in us.  I've been quietly weeping inside for the Washington Navy Yard victims.  This is really wrong!
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Post by: Randi on 17 September 2013, 02:27:42
BEAUTIFUL, MOVING film Kathy!!!!!



Any shooting it terrible, but with all the time we spend in Navy Yards, this is personal.
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Post by: Pommy Stuart on 17 September 2013, 02:52:20
Navy week down under.

http://www.navy.gov.au/ifr/events (http://www.navy.gov.au/ifr/events)
http://www.navy.gov.au/ifr/tickets (http://www.navy.gov.au/ifr/tickets)
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Post by: Craig on 17 September 2013, 08:26:40
Unalga (II) is complete.
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Post by: propriome on 17 September 2013, 08:37:59
Nice job Craig!  :)  :D

Now, since you're already used to that log format, you could join Unalga I ;)
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Post by: AvastMH on 17 September 2013, 08:41:57
 ;D ;D ;D 'Let joy be unconfined!' It's great to be popular Craig! ;) ;)

(I was sat on one last weather page - then I got 'Yorktown' as my next page - about 5 minutes ago).
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Post by: Craig on 17 September 2013, 08:58:58
You were doing Dec. 30, Joan? I thought it skipped a day but I blamed it on the log keeper.. Someone had done the first part of December while I slept but I didn't notice any skips until the end this morning.

I was thinking of going back to the 19th century, Matteo - but it would take me some time to adjust (I was typing 1846 and correcting it for a long time with the Unalga  ;D ). I'll have a look at Unalga (I)

 
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Post by: AvastMH on 17 September 2013, 09:03:20
You were doing Dec. 30, Joan? I thought it skipped a day but I blamed it on the log keeper.. Someone had done the first part of December while I slept but I didn't notice any skips until the end this morning.

I was thinking of going back to the 19th century, Matteo - but it would take me some time to adjust (I was typing 1846 and correcting it for a long time with the Unalga  ;D ). I'll have a look at Unalga (I)
Yes it was Dec 30 - I got a smattering of Nov/Dec days yesterday evening so you probably had  a few oddies missing.
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Post by: Hanibal94 on 17 September 2013, 15:01:26
Unalga (II) is complete.

Alright! Great job Craig, Caro, Joan and everyone else who helped finish it!

(http://pressxordie.files.wordpress.com/2010/12/a-winner-is-you.jpg)

Next target: Yukon. She has been stuck at 92% for quite a while now. I know she often has unusual formats, but these are OK once you get used to them, and there's usually less than 24 WR per page (always a big plus point for me!).

So let's do this, people! Yukon aut nihil!
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Post by: AvastMH on 17 September 2013, 16:18:22
Oh go on then.....then I yearn to go back to Patterson!
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Post by: Pommy Stuart on 17 September 2013, 16:27:33
I hope you are all knocked over by the next Doodle.
My home town used to have a big one of them. Maybe still does, have not been there for a while.

see also http://www.abc.net.au/science/kelvin/k2/pendulum/intro.htm (http://www.abc.net.au/science/kelvin/k2/pendulum/intro.htm)
and
http://wwwtw.vub.ac.be/werk/Mechanicasite/Slingers/foucault/alles%20over%20foucault%20(5)/pendulum.jpg (http://wwwtw.vub.ac.be/werk/Mechanicasite/Slingers/foucault/alles%20over%20foucault%20(5)/pendulum.jpg)
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Post by: Janet Jaguar on 17 September 2013, 17:20:37
This has been swinging in a stairwell of our https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Museum_of_Science_and_Industry_(Chicago)  (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Museum_of_Science_and_Industry_(Chicago))probably since its founding - certainly longer than I've been around.  I think I was in kindergarten the first time my parents took me thru at least part of that museum, and it has always fascinating me.  I can't wait to see the Doodle.  :)

Old: http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=mvS4oCylyYE

(http://media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/51/85/2e/51852edba5c18f51a480568493b42651.jpg)
is a 4-years-old pic.  Judging by this video, they've either replaced it or installed a second one.  I've got to get myself back there to see.

New: http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=-QQZUuI-CnA
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Post by: AvastMH on 17 September 2013, 17:47:00
I'm crushed! For as long as I can remember - even til about 8/9 years ago - the Sci Mus in London had a very long FP with an elegant brass ball at the end of it right inside the front door, you could check how long you had been in there by the degrees passed as you left (science in action, and relevant - a great learning tool) - it's now a chunky boring bit of grey metal over a rather unpleasant marker plate.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:ScienceMuseum-Pendulum.jpg

which is a nice picture of it since it is viewed from the top and therefore almost entirely invisible.
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Post by: Janet Jaguar on 17 September 2013, 18:18:15
I regret the loss of the sense of age and history in both our displays.  Although yours matches the new ceiling (https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/e3/Science_Museum_London_Main_Hall.jpg) and mine gives children the fun of watching the steel wings get knocked down.
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Post by: Kathy on 17 September 2013, 19:28:09
There is one at the Smithsonian's Museum of Natural History too -
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Post by: Hanibal94 on 18 September 2013, 01:43:17
I think I saw one in the California Academy of Sciences, San Francisco, but I can't remember for sure.
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Post by: jil on 18 September 2013, 04:10:40
There's a small one in the Harris Museum, Preston, UK but (unless I'm imagining this) it used to have a much bigger one that swung over the whole of the centre of the floor in the pic (Stuart, is this the one you meant?). There's a cafe there now so I suppose they were worried about knocking over the occasional coffee cup!

http://www.harrismuseum.org.uk/images/General_Gal/03.jpg
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Post by: Janet Jaguar on 18 September 2013, 05:13:45
It's still there, off to the side over the double fan pattern in the floor to the right of the pic.  :)

(http://www.harrismuseum.org.uk/images/General_Gal/03.jpg)
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Post by: Pommy Stuart on 18 September 2013, 05:37:38
There's a small one in the Harris Museum, Preston, UK but (unless I'm imagining this) it used to have a much bigger one that swung over the whole of the centre of the floor in the pic (Stuart, is this the one you meant?). There's a cafe there now so I suppose they were worried about knocking over the occasional coffee cup!

http://www.harrismuseum.org.uk/images/General_Gal/03.jpg

Well done Jil (and Janet).
I also thought is was a big one.
Thanks, good find.
Will have to look next year when we visit for our 40th wedding anniversary.
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Post by: Caro on 18 September 2013, 06:30:24
Hello OW.
After the pendulums, here are some lovely wee books: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-24124626
 :)
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Post by: jil on 18 September 2013, 10:57:14
Jocelyn Bell Burnell talking about Citizen Science (mostly Galaxy Zoo) on Radio 4's Seven Ages of Science (http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b03b0yqg) - in last 5 mins (or so).
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Post by: Janet Jaguar on 18 September 2013, 11:37:26
Cool!!
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Post by: Helen J on 18 September 2013, 12:44:40
Jocelyn Bell Burnell talking about Citizen Science (mostly Galaxy Zoo) on Radio 4's Seven Ages of Science (http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b03b0yqg) - in last 5 mins (or so).

I heard it last night and was getting really excited, and saying 'mention Old Weather' but sadly she didn't hear me ....
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Post by: jil on 18 September 2013, 14:21:59
Jocelyn Bell Burnell talking about Citizen Science (mostly Galaxy Zoo) on Radio 4's Seven Ages of Science (http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b03b0yqg) - in last 5 mins (or so).

I heard it last night and was getting really excited, and saying 'mention Old Weather' but sadly she didn't hear me ....
Not just me then  ;D
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Post by: AvastMH on 18 September 2013, 19:31:00
Jocelyn Bell Burnell talking about Citizen Science (mostly Galaxy Zoo) on Radio 4's Seven Ages of Science (http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b03b0yqg) - in last 5 mins (or so).

I heard it last night and was getting really excited, and saying 'mention Old Weather' but sadly she didn't hear me ....
Not just me then  ;D

oh wow - must try to hear her. Last Friday at the CPDN day out at the Royal Society -sorry I will give a report about it soon - I wasn't sure what break-out group I'd get, but one was based on whether credence is really given/due to citizen scientists.  I took along some excellent pictures of Einstein (on a boat, as a captain of a boat, sat on a verandah with fluffy slippers on), and one of Jocelyn Bell-Burnell because she discovered pulsars when she was a DPhil student - not yet a fully fledged scientist - and her boss won a Nobel Prize for that work. ONE DAY a CS project will win a Nobel P and THEN there will be a few dissenters left eating their words. Quick someone - put the cloth back over my cage... ;)
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Post by: Craig on 18 September 2013, 20:40:22
This was very good. It reminds me of something CBC did on its Ideas program several years ago, called How To Think About Science by David Cayley. It was very wide ranging in time and scope - even considering some of the fringe theories and how they were treated by the mainstream. I copied all the podcasts onto my MP3 player and still have them to enjoy again.

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Post by: Caro on 20 September 2013, 12:21:15
Philately news!
New stamps from Royal Mail celebrating the British merchant navy:
http://www.norphil.co.uk/2013/09a-Merchant_navy_and-Arctic_convoy.htm
eg
(http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/pictures/2013/9/19/1379603515602/HMS-Vanoc-on-Atlantic-Con-004.jpg)
Atlantic convoy with HMS Vanoc, WWII.
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Post by: Helen J on 20 September 2013, 13:03:55
Oooh!  May have to lash out on some 1st class stamps ....  :D
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Post by: Pommy Stuart on 20 September 2013, 16:27:26
1st class? It will still not get there any faster (or at all).  :P
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Post by: Janet Jaguar on 20 September 2013, 16:44:59
That's OK because it's never going to get anywhere if she keeps it in a stamp album.  ;)
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Post by: Helen J on 21 September 2013, 11:06:43
Only first class because they don't do these interesting ones in second class!
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Post by: Kevin on 21 September 2013, 11:56:48
Off to the Arctic again in a few days. Not on a boat this time - instead with one of NOAA's P-3 Hurricane Hunters http://www.aoc.noaa.gov/aircraft_lockheed.htm We'll be studying the movement of heat through the air-sea-ice boundary and its potential influence on the larger scale atmospheric circulation (aka weather in Chicago and Pittsburgh). Flying over the sea of the BEAR and CORWIN, YUKON and PATTERSON with much the same sort of mission they had back then.
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Post by: Helen J on 21 September 2013, 12:26:56
Have a safe journey, Kevin, and come back with lots of good information!
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Post by: AvastMH on 21 September 2013, 12:46:16
Best wishes for a fruitful trip Kevin :)
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Post by: Janet Jaguar on 21 September 2013, 13:24:37
Off to the Arctic again in a few days. Not on a boat this time - instead with one of NOAA's P-3 Hurricane Hunters http://www.aoc.noaa.gov/aircraft_lockheed.htm We'll be studying the movement of heat through the air-sea-ice boundary and its potential influence on the larger scale atmospheric circulation (aka weather in Chicago and Pittsburgh). Flying over the sea of the BEAR and CORWIN, YUKON and PATTERSON with much the same sort of mission they had back then.

Travel safe, Kevin.  Hope the trip is fruitful.
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Post by: studentforever on 21 September 2013, 13:35:27
Enjoy the trip, come back safe and well and ready to crunch the data.
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Post by: Randi on 21 September 2013, 13:55:37
Have a safe, productive, and fun trip, Kevin!
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Caro on 21 September 2013, 15:28:39
Enjoy yourself, Kevin. Hope you have a great trip.  :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Craig on 21 September 2013, 16:21:17
Much the same sort of mission but slightly better instruments?  ;D

Have a good trip, Kevin, and let us know if you see any remnants of the Jeannette.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Randi on 21 September 2013, 16:56:20
http://www.nps.gov/vick/historyculture/life-aboard.htm:
Quote
On board, a landsman (present-day Marine) was responsible for guarding prisoners. According to crewman George Yost, these wrist and leg irons were used not just for enemy prisoners but for members of the Cairo's crew as well. An excerpt from his diary reads,

"Tuesday Oct 21,1862 ? William Smith confined in Irons by order of Captain."
(http://www.nps.gov/vick/historyculture/images/legrstn.jpg)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Craig on 21 September 2013, 18:07:23
I remember the typhoons in the Pearl River Delta when I was transcribing the Moorhen. They are expecting a huge one Sunday night. I think I heard 1000 millimetres (1 metre) of rain!  :o
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 22 September 2013, 01:08:46
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-xIG0qpfZuJ4/Uj57NpDOmGI/AAAAAAAAB6E/TugPaeZ9uxk/w506-h750/Happy+Equinox.GIF)

This looks right for both north and south hemispheres.  ;)

And then there is this:   Seeing Equinoxes and Solstices from Space (http://www.youtube.com/watchpopup_?v=FmCJqykN2J0)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Craig on 22 September 2013, 06:24:59
The link doesn't work for me, Janet.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 22 September 2013, 06:28:23
sorry, nor me.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Randi on 22 September 2013, 07:00:40
"
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: AvastMH on 22 September 2013, 07:05:49
 if you google

seeing equinoxes and solstices from space long version

you'll get the vid - WARNING - I can't find a pop out version (probably my fault)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 22 September 2013, 10:59:10
I'll attach it here.  I put it in my Google+ album, and I could see the insertion just fine.  I have no idea what is happening.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Randi on 22 September 2013, 14:25:05
The OldWeather BOINC team just passed
16,000,000


(http://boincstats.com/signature/-1/team/54739893/sig.png)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Caro on 22 September 2013, 14:43:56
Go team!  :o :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Craig on 22 September 2013, 14:50:33
So less than 30% of our credits come from CPDN  :o. I didn't realize that.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Randi on 22 September 2013, 14:53:12
Their fault - not ours ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: AvastMH on 23 September 2013, 02:59:39
It's amazing - what you can achieve just by swanning off for the odd cup of tea...hurrah for BOINC! :D
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Caro on 23 September 2013, 03:55:30
Morning all.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-24149439
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 23 September 2013, 05:04:04
Morning Caro.
Wish we had the Australian election in 90 secs like you show on the Broken Biscuit Co web page.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Caro on 23 September 2013, 10:19:56
We should be so lucky.  ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Dean on 23 September 2013, 16:26:58
Try it here... They are ALREADY starting for President and the election isn't until Nov 2016!! :'(
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: studentforever on 23 September 2013, 17:03:44
I remember being in the States when the Prime Minister called a snap election and the general stupefaction that we could call an election and the whole process would be complete in 6 weeks.

One disadvantage of fixed term parliaments - the political practioners can plan their electioneering and bore the rest of us to tears for ages.  A year to the Independence Referendum in Scotland and I want to put my earplugs in already.  Just give me a nice concise summary of the two positions a few weeks before the event and I'll sort out my vote and turn up on the day.

Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Caro on 24 September 2013, 02:38:35
Yes, that will be a year-long campaign to endure/enjoy.
Good luck Rosemary!

Good morning world. Great big, autumnal fog here.  :o
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: AvastMH on 24 September 2013, 04:09:12
Heavy fog in Oxon too. Lot's of 'summer-abandoned' students' bikes are showing off tremendous numbers of spider webs in the foggy weather - a very autumnal sight for Oxford.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: AvastMH on 24 September 2013, 11:15:51
There has been a lot of concern recently that cyclists and pedestrians (and there are a lot of both of those in Oxford) are more at risk from silent electric cars...
Well - it's not a new problem..I spotted this next to Randi's newspaper columns about the Perry:
The San Francisco Call 14 Oct 1895 (column 2):
The Arrival of the Cutter Perry.
The Aleutian Volcanoes in Activity.
(http://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lccn/sn85066387/1895-10-14/ed-1/seq-7.pdf)
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Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 24 September 2013, 14:42:22
http://www.worldindustrialreporter.com/electric-cars-must-make-noises-can-hear-under-u-s-rule/

Most electric car makers in the US have complied even before Congress manages to come up with a technical definition of "make a detectable noise." 
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: AvastMH on 24 September 2013, 18:33:20
That's good news Janet! :D
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 24 September 2013, 22:37:20
It's kind of simple minded - adding a $35 thingamajig to each car can save lives and damage to said car.  If you are very selfish and think only of protecting the car owner from having to pay to repair the car (which most people are not), it is very cheap insurance.  Not even yearly fees.  A number of associations of blind people got it started over here, since sound is their ONLY clue they are stepping out in front of a car.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: AvastMH on 25 September 2013, 03:11:48
Sounds like the sort of thing that will save you an insurance extra on your premium. The Insurers are bound to back it. Hurrah!  :D
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 25 September 2013, 12:43:46
I have a software storage problem, and I'd like some advice.  The background is, the T-Mobile Photo Album site I used for years has been shut down.  They arranged with Google+  to take all their photo customers.  As it turns out, neither did anything to aid in the transfer.  T-Mobile dumped us leaving just a link to go to, and Google+ refused to help us transfer anything.

I finally got everything backed up on my computer, and up-loaded into Google+ but the uploading was a total nightmare.  Half their apparent uploading mechanisms don't work for me, and every single one of my hundreds of photos in a dozen albums made me decide who to share them with.  I didn't want to share ANYTHING that day, just pack it away in usable storage.  And the Equinox card I made proved that if I decide to share/embed something put there earlier, my original decision to not share it that day locks it away from the public forever.

So, what stable sites will allow me to easily store pics in albums that will be available to be embedded on a later date just because I marked the whole album as public?  I don't know how to shop for quality here.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: propriome on 25 September 2013, 13:03:32
Hi Janet,

I'm not an expert here (the only shared photos i've got are on my facebook account, low-res), my wife used flickr until she hit the maximum allowed number of photos for a free account (this was several years ago, maybe things have changed in the meantime). While I generally appreciate Google products, I don't like Google+ (which is becoming mandatory for all Android based cellphones).

I've found these comparisons and lists on the internet (and there should be a lot of others - free ones could be worth a try with a few pictures, to check they're effectively what you're looking for):
http://howto.cnet.com/8301-11310_39-57462902-285/comparing-the-best-ways-to-store-your-photos-online/
http://web.appstorm.net/roundups/media-roundups/top-20-photo-storage-and-sharing-sites/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_photo-sharing_websites
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 25 September 2013, 13:08:09
Thanks, Matteo, those are the kind of comparison shoppers I needed.  I"ll take it from here.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Randi on 25 September 2013, 14:32:22
Barely half an hour after they were jolted by a major earthquake on Tuesday, people of the Pakistani coastal town of Gwadar had another shock when they saw a new island emerge in the sea, just over a kilometre from the shore. (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-24272552)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 25 September 2013, 14:43:01
My oh my!!!  In all the centuries before portable photography, they'd have called all these reports lies.  Amazing creation.  :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Caro on 25 September 2013, 15:50:22
Lloyd's List goes digital: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-24272336
A bit sad.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 25 September 2013, 15:58:59
They are right about coming full circle.  They didn't start as a newspaper, but as a public notice.  But it makes me worry about more general papers, there's a ritual to sitting down and opening the paper.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Hanibal94 on 26 September 2013, 05:01:28
It sounds to me like they didn't have much choice because only 25 people were still using the print edition.
When it gets that bad, there's not really much you can do.
I know that sounds kinda cynical, but I am a member of Generation WiFi, so I'm already used to getting all my news online.
So I must admit, this makes it hard for me to feel sad when I hear about something going out of print.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: jil on 26 September 2013, 11:51:59
Old clams give clues to rate of global warming (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-24271594)

This was covered in the Today program on Radio 4 this morning and I did glare at the radio a bit when they said it was the only way to get old sea temperatures  >:(

I suppose if the clams are upto 500 years old they are going back a bit further than us.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Craig on 26 September 2013, 12:46:13
At last, clams' reputation will be restored after so many centuries of  being maligned as tight shelled. Now they are spilling the beans, as it were  :D  With that, I will clam up.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: AvastMH on 26 September 2013, 13:14:19
 ::) ::) ::) ;D ;D
Yes - clams can never be described as being s(h)elfish with their knowledge.
Perhaps when we are finished with the boats we can get new work interviewing elderly clams in their beds.  ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Craig on 26 September 2013, 13:18:18
 ;D ;D ;D ;D

They're a crusty bunch, I've heard. I'd prefer to interview mermaids.  :P
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 26 September 2013, 16:36:23
Great Doodle coming up for the 27th.
101 111 132 137 score to beat. (so to speak   ;D )

I am NOT addicted, honest.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Randi on 26 September 2013, 16:42:35
Digital do-gooders: Why do we help strangers online? (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-24207047)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Dean on 26 September 2013, 19:12:59
I have a software storage problem, and I'd like some advice.  The background is, the T-Mobile Photo Album site I used for years has been shut down.  They arranged with Google+  to take all their photo customers.  As it turns out, neither did anything to aid in the transfer.  T-Mobile dumped us leaving just a link to go to, and Google+ refused to help us transfer anything.

I finally got everything backed up on my computer, and up-loaded into Google+ but the uploading was a total nightmare.  Half their apparent uploading mechanisms don't work for me, and every single one of my hundreds of photos in a dozen albums made me decide who to share them with.  I didn't want to share ANYTHING that day, just pack it away in usable storage.  And the Equinox card I made proved that if I decide to share/embed something put there earlier, my original decision to not share it that day locks it away from the public forever.

So, what stable sites will allow me to easily store pics in albums that will be available to be embedded on a later date just because I marked the whole album as public?  I don't know how to shop for quality here.

Hi Janet:
I don't do much 'sharing' but have learned to use www.dropbox.com as one of my sailing friends got a boatload of pics of my boat and I his. Rather than days of emailing one or two at a time - he uses dropbox and told me to try it. It's not 'intuitive' but it IS pretty neat. ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 26 September 2013, 20:04:56
I've used DropBox for business stuff that is never to go on the web publicly.  But couldn't figure out how to make my pics to have a publicly available url to embed.

The best (least connected to FaceBook) was Picassa but that is now enfolded into Google+.  Only old members can get that set-up.  I'm trying to teach myself how to use this thing until I can find something special.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Caro on 27 September 2013, 05:04:34
I'm not very good on the Google doodle. Top score of 100. Pathetic.  :P
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 27 September 2013, 05:19:09
Not good enough.   >:(
Try harder.   ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Caro on 27 September 2013, 05:31:19
Oooo. 128. That's pretty good. I retire.  ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Hanibal94 on 27 September 2013, 11:31:20
The best I got on the Google Doodle was 139.
Sorry Pommy, but it looks like I win by 2 points.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Kathy on 27 September 2013, 11:32:29
I am no good at that game - high score of 80  :P  :o
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 27 September 2013, 11:39:42
I have terrible hand-eye coordination and am not even entering my pitiful score in the competition, but it was indeed fun.

Trust Google to give themselves the one doodle that is addictive.  :D
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: asterix135 on 27 September 2013, 11:53:28
I win!
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Kathy on 27 September 2013, 12:26:05
Look at you!  :-*
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: asterix135 on 27 September 2013, 12:42:14
Also fun for nostalgia

Google:

Google in 1998

(https://www.google.com/logos/google.jpg)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Kathy on 27 September 2013, 13:54:39
http://earthsky.org/earth/how-likely-global-warming-is-human-caused-95-says-new-ipcc-report

I wonder if our data is a part of this?
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Helen J on 27 September 2013, 13:59:43
By all accounts they've been very comprehensive in what they've reviewed in order to write the report, so I should think so.  Even though it's not good news, it is good to feel that we may have had a small part in helping the scientists to write this new report.  Now all we need is for the politicians to take it seriously ....
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 27 September 2013, 15:34:54
You most certainly do win, well done asterix135.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: AvastMH on 27 September 2013, 16:46:13
By all accounts they've been very comprehensive in what they've reviewed in order to write the report, so I should think so.  Even though it's not good news, it is good to feel that we may have had a small part in helping the scientists to write this new report.  Now all we need is for the politicians to take it seriously ....

We have been a part - Myles Allen helped write that IPCC report - so I guess that's Climatepredict.net in the mix for the report. :D
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: AvastMH on 27 September 2013, 16:53:29
I made 130 on the google game - then I thought I ought to stop before beating the tassels off the star. ;) :D
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 27 September 2013, 17:09:21
By all accounts they've been very comprehensive in what they've reviewed in order to write the report, so I should think so.  Even though it's not good news, it is good to feel that we may have had a small part in helping the scientists to write this new report.  Now all we need is for the politicians to take it seriously ....

We have been a part - Myles Allen helped write that IPCC report - so I guess that's Climatepredict.net in the mix for the report. :D

How very, very nice to know our work was in a database that was behind this conclusion.  Definitely satisfying.  :)

I just wish it wasn't bad news.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 27 September 2013, 17:30:51
Looks like a great week coming up downunder.

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/what-to-see-and-where-to-watch-as-sydney-harbour-plays-host-to-spectacular-array-of-warships-destroyers-and-historic-tall-ships/story-e6frg6n6-1226727227414 (http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/what-to-see-and-where-to-watch-as-sydney-harbour-plays-host-to-spectacular-array-of-warships-destroyers-and-historic-tall-ships/story-e6frg6n6-1226727227414)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Randi on 27 September 2013, 17:43:58
 8)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 27 September 2013, 17:44:47
What serious fun!!  Enjoy.  :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Caro on 28 September 2013, 07:19:42
May I just say ...

(http://www.afl.com.au/staticfile/AFL%20Tenant/AFL/Files/Images/0928_all_hail_the_hawks_6620.jpeg)

Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: AvastMH on 28 September 2013, 07:30:25
Looks like a great week coming up downunder.

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/what-to-see-and-where-to-watch-as-sydney-harbour-plays-host-to-spectacular-array-of-warships-destroyers-and-historic-tall-ships/story-e6frg6n6-1226727227414 (http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/what-to-see-and-where-to-watch-as-sydney-harbour-plays-host-to-spectacular-array-of-warships-destroyers-and-historic-tall-ships/story-e6frg6n6-1226727227414)

oh wow - what fun! Our boss is in Sydney during the event - he's going down to Woolongong too...perhaps he'll get to see the ships & fireworks... 8)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Randi on 28 September 2013, 10:48:56
Smithsonian: The Untold Story of Getting from Here to There | Time and Navigation (http://timeandnavigation.si.edu/)

In particular Navigating at Sea (http://timeandnavigation.si.edu/navigating-at-sea) ;)


Reported by Dean who found it in "this month's Boat US Magazine"
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 28 September 2013, 14:02:24
Cool!!  Thanks.  :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: AvastMH on 28 September 2013, 14:39:29
Good one Dean - had a go at navigating by star - it was good! :D
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 29 September 2013, 05:08:24
Looks like a great week coming up downunder.

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/what-to-see-and-where-to-watch-as-sydney-harbour-plays-host-to-spectacular-array-of-warships-destroyers-and-historic-tall-ships/story-e6frg6n6-1226727227414 (http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/what-to-see-and-where-to-watch-as-sydney-harbour-plays-host-to-spectacular-array-of-warships-destroyers-and-historic-tall-ships/story-e6frg6n6-1226727227414)

oh wow - what fun! Our boss is in Sydney during the event - he's going down to Woolongong too...perhaps he'll get to see the ships & fireworks... 8)

 Participating Warships (http://www.navy.gov.au/ifr/participants/warships)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 29 September 2013, 10:24:55
Looks like a great week coming up downunder.

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/what-to-see-and-where-to-watch-as-sydney-harbour-plays-host-to-spectacular-array-of-warships-destroyers-and-historic-tall-ships/story-e6frg6n6-1226727227414 (http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/what-to-see-and-where-to-watch-as-sydney-harbour-plays-host-to-spectacular-array-of-warships-destroyers-and-historic-tall-ships/story-e6frg6n6-1226727227414)

oh wow - what fun! Our boss is in Sydney during the event - he's going down to Woolongong too...perhaps he'll get to see the ships & fireworks... 8)

 Participating Warships (http://www.navy.gov.au/ifr/participants/warships)

That is likely to be the most impressive collection of modern warships ever seen together.  Really, really impressive.  Now I am seriously jealous - do you think I could get away with mailing myself to you?
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 29 September 2013, 15:49:38
Maybe, if you use Caro's First Class stamps.
There is a spare bed here.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 29 September 2013, 16:10:56
We'll have to see if I fit in the box. ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 29 September 2013, 19:16:59
This is strictly for auto buffs.  Which doesn't include me, but this event is so extremely rare it made the national evening news and caught my interest.

Vintage Chevy auction to deal in low-mileage gems (http://www.usatoday.com/story/money/cars/2013/08/21/chevy-chevrolet-auction-nebraska-corvair-silverado-cameo/2682061/)

Nebraska auto dealer auctions $500,000 of classic Chevrolet collection (http://www.nydailynews.com/autos/auto-dealer-auctions-500-000-classic-chevrolets-article-1.1470894)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: AvastMH on 29 September 2013, 19:18:28
All you cat lovers: check George , crew member...
http://www.picton-castle.com/ship-and-crew/the-crew.html
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Caro on 30 September 2013, 04:06:58



<-------- Well hello, George.  ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Maikel on 30 September 2013, 05:06:09
I'm sorry to have to report that the earlier report (http://forum.oldweather.org/index.php?topic=5.msg73880;topicseen#msg73880) of the possible discovery of British submarine E36 turns out to be the remains of an old merchant ship.

The local newspaper Texelse Courant (http://www.texelsecourant.nl/lees/15681/wrak-niet-van-onderzeeer) (in Dutch) published an article on the research into the wreck by divers.
I've attempted to translate it.

Quote
The wreck near the Razende Bol, suspected to be the English submarine E36, has proofed the be no more than the remains of an old merchant vessel.

This is the conclusion after research by the Northseadivers, associated with Stimon (Maritiem Onderzoek Nederland - Maritime Research Netherlands).
Last Saturday they have researched the wreck, which might be dangerous to shipping because there could be torpedoes on board.

The research team already had doubts it would be a submarine, because the remains are scattered over a length of 220 metres.
Based on sonar research it was decided to send down divers for visual inspection.
During the first diving session the conditions were too bad to acknowledge the suspicions, but this Saturday attempts were successful.
The sonar images published earlier, on which basis it was assumed to be E36, are nothing else than the propeller shaft of an old merchant ship.
The Northseadivers also found a steel reserve propeller, several wooden blocks and rigging.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 30 September 2013, 05:51:01
The rigging is pretty conclusive evidence.  The story was interesting while it lasted.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Helen J on 30 September 2013, 07:19:32
All you cat lovers: check George , crew member...
http://www.picton-castle.com/ship-and-crew/the-crew.html

What a gorgeous creature!  I hope he enjoys the voyage.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Dean on 30 September 2013, 08:41:15
If that is the doctor's 'Medicine Chest' I think I'll take to the life boats!!! ::)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Caro on 01 October 2013, 02:30:20
Hello world. Happy October!
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: AvastMH on 01 October 2013, 02:53:09
 :) :) :)
The trees are turning colour in the Parks - time to get the crab apple jelly sorted.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Caro on 01 October 2013, 11:22:37
Well done, HMS Illustrious.  :)
http://www.theguardian.com/environment/2013/oct/01/owl-refuge-hms-illustrious-eurasion-scops
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: jil on 01 October 2013, 12:17:12
And it was the meteorology forecaster that saved the owl - very appropriate  :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Helen J on 01 October 2013, 12:26:13
Great story - and a beautiful picture too.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 01 October 2013, 14:10:11
:)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: AvastMH on 01 October 2013, 14:48:23
 :) that's a really nice story - heart warming.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Hanibal94 on 02 October 2013, 13:29:46
Thanks for posting that story, Caro. Reading about good news (http://www.goodnewsnetwork.org/) is always nice.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: AvastMH on 02 October 2013, 15:09:40
Hi Hanibal...THANK YOU for that link to the good news network. I've had a terrible day and that really raised it above the waterline. I wonder how we would feel if, for one week, we could only see good news?  :-\ 8)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Randi on 02 October 2013, 15:15:16
 :-* :-* :-* :-* :-*

(http://www.academy-florists.com/images/shop/lrg%5Cpink_fresh_flowers_white_fresh_flowers-Cut_Flower_Bouquets.jpg)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 02 October 2013, 21:44:09
My apologies the the captains of the Tall ships.
I should never have hung out the washing today.

After a month of good weather it hailed today at home and rained on Sydney Harbour for the entry of the ships.   :(

Michael, saw the Canadian tall ship on TV.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 02 October 2013, 22:17:43
They had fog and bad weather a century ago at their first ever entry - the climate was merely trying to have the re-enactment accurate. ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Caro on 03 October 2013, 02:34:31
Morning all.
Good news is scarce at the moment so here are some lovely photos celebrating Kodak's 125th anniversary.
http://www.theguardian.com/business/gallery/2013/oct/03/kodak-camera-anniversary-photography#/?picture=418905298&index=5
I'm sure that's Holmes and Watson on deck of the ship!
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: AvastMH on 03 October 2013, 02:36:52
:-* :-* :-* :-* :-*

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Looks good to me Randi - I'd feel like that!  :D :D :D
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Post by: Pommy Stuart on 03 October 2013, 03:26:09
Wow, that was some Aurora display you yanks put on over Minnesota.
Green is common but lots of red is unusual.

http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=50156307n (http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=50156307n)
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Post by: Craig on 03 October 2013, 05:42:49
Very impressive. Do you often get to see the aurora australis, Stuart?
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Post by: Pommy Stuart on 03 October 2013, 06:38:02
Hi Craig.
Occasionally they are visible from Tasmania but as it is a long way from the aurora ring they are not very bright.
It would have to be a 9 or better to be seen from my location.
I hope the Aurora are still working in November down at 65oS, 60oW.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Caro on 05 October 2013, 15:24:19
Pics of the fleet review in Sydney:
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-10-04/live-blog-warships-descend-on-sydney-harbour-for-fleet-review/4998392
At the moment, today's pics are not included so these are pics of the ships, not Prince Harry.  :)

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Post by: Janet Jaguar on 05 October 2013, 15:53:33
I especially liked the Timeline article, it lets us born on the other side of the world know more.  An amazing and impressive show.  Do you know if all the small boats in the water with the big ships were allowed pleasure boats, or all support craft?  They made the waters look very full and busy.  :)
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Post by: Randi on 05 October 2013, 16:00:07
Great pictures, but not the most informative captions.
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Post by: Pommy Stuart on 06 October 2013, 03:31:37
Saw the fireworks last night. Great, but we were on the wrong side of the bridge and missed the lazer display on the Opera House. :(
We were left of the second down burst of RED fireworks picture just above the Opera House picture. (You cannot see us)
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-10-05/fireworks-spectacular-marks-australian-navy-100-years/5001068 (http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-10-05/fireworks-spectacular-marks-australian-navy-100-years/5001068)
captions = Fireworks.   ;D

The small craft are spectator craft.

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Post by: Pommy Stuart on 06 October 2013, 03:38:46
A few more from the camera of Stuart.   :D
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Post by: Caro on 06 October 2013, 04:01:06
Wooo! Thanks Stuart. What a show.
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Post by: Craig on 06 October 2013, 06:50:27
The Viking photo would be great for your avatar, Stuart. You would just have to touch it up a bit to put on a fierce expression  ;D
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Post by: Randi on 06 October 2013, 07:19:09
...and, for authenticity, take off the sun glasses ;)
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Post by: Craig on 06 October 2013, 07:30:43
Indeed   ;D.

That reminds me of the Peter Sellers movie, The Party. It opens with a grandiose battle scene with what seems like thousands of soldiers dressed up to fit some early historical era. Then you hear "Cut! Cut! Cut!"  The director strides out, comes up to to face Sellers, who is one of the soldiers, and says, "take off your wrist watch, you idiot!"
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Post by: AvastMH on 06 October 2013, 07:46:37
Great pics Stuart!  ;D ;D
I think you look good for a C21st Viking ;) 8)
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Post by: Janet Jaguar on 06 October 2013, 08:35:23
Thanks for all the pics - a truly wonderful experience.  :)
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Post by: jil on 06 October 2013, 12:00:47
Great pics. Wonderful spectacle  8)
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Post by: Pommy Stuart on 06 October 2013, 18:47:43
I could be asking for trouble here, but if I post a couple of 250k pic of the Viking could someone doctor them,(and get rid of the watch as well)  %^)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 06 October 2013, 18:48:26
second pic.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Caro on 07 October 2013, 02:30:49
Stuart, I toned down the sunglasses (best I can do) and cropped the watch.
I don't think you should worry about the sunglasses really; your shirt doesn't look authentically Viking.

I prefer the second, cropped pic, with the genuine Viking shirt, shorts, socks etc.  :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 07 October 2013, 04:33:24
Well somethings you just cannot improve on. %^(

 :'(
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Post by: Craig on 07 October 2013, 06:27:44
I agree, Stuart. I tried in vain  ;D
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Post by: Steeleye on 09 October 2013, 05:25:31
Stuart looks like he is suitably attired for tomorrow (10th) - forecast of 31C in Canberra and a total fire ban in ACT and NSW.  We're not even half-way through Spring yet.
 :'(  :o
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Post by: Caro on 10 October 2013, 03:32:51
Hello all.
Interesting weather here too, Howard.
Strong NE wind, sunshine and a top of 11C. Bit of a shock after recent temps of 18-20.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: AvastMH on 10 October 2013, 05:14:36
Someone told me that a few flakes of snow fell over oxford last night - haven't been able to verify this. :-\
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Caro on 11 October 2013, 11:51:12
Welcome to all our guests!
Please join us on the project and the forum and make our third birthday (October 12) one to remember.  :)

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Post by: studentforever on 11 October 2013, 12:29:51
HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO US . . .
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Post by: Helen J on 11 October 2013, 12:32:57
You beat me to it!   :D
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 11 October 2013, 12:48:05
Happy Birthday, OldWeather.org !!!!


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Post by: AvastMH on 11 October 2013, 14:53:27
Happy birthday all!!!   I am still jealous of all of you who were in at the beginning!
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Post by: Janet Jaguar on 11 October 2013, 15:14:51
Somebody is celebrating our Birthday by launching a Facebook page for us.  :)

https://www.facebook.com/oldweather
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Post by: elizabeth on 11 October 2013, 16:26:34
 ;D Hello everyone just popping in to say HAPPY BIRTHDAY Old Weather!!
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Post by: Caro on 11 October 2013, 16:29:05
Nice to see you here, Liz.  :)
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Post by: Caro on 12 October 2013, 03:48:29
Morning all and happy birthday again OW, now that it is well and truly October 12 on this side of the world.
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Post by: lollia paolina on 12 October 2013, 04:42:56
Buon Compleanno Old Weather!!!

Many Happy Returns!!!

:) :) :)

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Post by: Janet Jaguar on 13 October 2013, 20:56:56
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Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Caro on 14 October 2013, 03:00:46
Enjoy!
Good morning world.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Craig on 14 October 2013, 05:47:56
Thank you, Janet and Caro, on behalf of Canadians. We (in central Canada, at least) have had an "Indian summer" for most of this month. Only the falling leaves suggest the autumn, but the sugar maples are still holding tight to their red, yellow and orange adornments. And of course, there are already the impatient devotees of underworld spirits anticipating Halloween, an event that now rivals Christmas and Easter in commercial exuberance.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Thursday Next on 14 October 2013, 13:23:42
Somebody is celebrating our Birthday by launching a Facebook page for us.  :)

https://www.facebook.com/oldweather

So we now have two pages?  We already had: https://www.facebook.com/pages/Old-Weather/167752819901957?fref=ts

I'm not bothered, I've "Liked" both of them!
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Hanibal94 on 14 October 2013, 13:49:19
Good evening everyone.
Anybody else tried this version of Planet Hunters? (https://www.zooniverse.org/invaders) I got a high score of 3540.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Caro on 14 October 2013, 13:50:17
The new Facebook page was set up for operational purposes.
The original [https://www.facebook.com/pages/Old-Weather/167752819901957?fref=ts (https://www.facebook.com/pages/Old-Weather/167752819901957?fref=ts)] is the one to watch for blogs, posts, updates etc, but there is no harm in liking both of them. :)

Hi Hanibal. Good score!
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: asterix135 on 15 October 2013, 13:26:27
Not exactly the timeframe of oldweather ships, but it's maritime and humorous:

https://twitter.com/usmanm/statuses/388407160159211520
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 15 October 2013, 13:32:05
That shipload of ships is shipping ridiculous!!!  :D
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 15 October 2013, 15:16:33
Randi found this, looking for something quite different.  It is not naval, but very interesting information I had never heard of before.

Night Witches: The Female Fighter Pilots of World War II (http://www.theatlantic.com/technology/print/2013/07/night-witches-the-female-fighter-pilots-of-world-war-ii/277779/)
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Post by: Thursday Next on 15 October 2013, 15:25:46
That's really interesting - thanks for posting!
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Post by: Caro on 15 October 2013, 15:28:34
Got to love those Night Witches.
This isn't naval either but it's worth a look:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-24534864
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Post by: Janet Jaguar on 15 October 2013, 15:48:54
It looks like my dad's first computer, circa 1960s.  He was head of computing for his company then, and they employed one punch card operator on Saturdays to let high school kids to come in with hand-written programs to be entered and run.  It earned me 2nd place in the state science fair that year - even thought the chemistry was very boring, none of the judges had seen the results mapped the way only a computer could.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 15 October 2013, 16:04:58
We got a mention on a site with an unusual name.  (search in your browser window on the page for Oldweather)
http://bottledmonsters.blogspot.com.au/ (http://bottledmonsters.blogspot.com.au/)
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Post by: Randi on 15 October 2013, 16:23:53
 ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Caro on 17 October 2013, 02:33:16
Morning all. Glad to see the US government is open for business, at least for a while.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Steeleye on 17 October 2013, 02:57:05
Captain Morgan in the Christmas Cake, Caro?  For those of us who like our drop of rum, that's perilously close to sacrilege!

Have you no soul?

 :o


Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Steeleye on 17 October 2013, 03:02:34
To change the subject entirely ... things are warming up down this way - and it's only half way through spring.  Map below shows bushfires currently burning between here (Canberra, bottom left)) and north of Newcastle (top right).  Blue symbols are fires under control; red and yellow are fires out of control; not sure about the blank symbols.

Not good.

Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Caro on 17 October 2013, 03:47:32
Definitely not good, Howard. It's very early in the season for such bad fires.

On the other subject, I maintain that Christmas pudding is made heavenly by the addition of the good Captain's finest. I ignite the pudding with Bundy though. :-X :)
Captain Morgan is not so necessary for the cakes but it sure doesn't hurt either.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Craig on 17 October 2013, 05:13:05
I read that your new PM, Tony Abbott, says that climate change is absolute idiocy and he wants to dismantle all the environmental laws and actions the last government put in place. This is the same as our PM except that he pretends to believe in climate change while doing everything he can to encourage it.

Yes for some rum in Christmas cake  :D
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Post by: Steeleye on 17 October 2013, 05:24:41
Please don't start me on politics and climate change, Craig.  It does no end of damage to my blood pressure and might lead to discord on these pages!  While in Canada a couple of weeks ago (how we retirees love to name-drop), Lynne and I were stunned by the damage being wrought by the Mountain Pine beetle.  It's one thing to see the dead trees on TV; it's much more confronting to see them in the flesh, so to speak.

I must say that you live in a very attractive part of the world, Craig.  We had two nights in Ottawa, and just snuck over into Gatineau for a few minutes on a double-decker bus tour.  You are a lucky man.

 8)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Craig on 17 October 2013, 05:55:49
I agree Steeleye, it's all very upsetting.

Too bad you didn't look me up when you were in Ottawa/Gatineau. I could have given you a tour of the Gatineau Park. You must have seen the colourful leaves, though. It was the best time of the year to visit here.
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Post by: Steeleye on 17 October 2013, 06:18:22
Apologies, Craig. I thought that Gatineau was a bit further from Ottawa than it actually is.  When we saw the sign that said we were driving into Gatineau, I realised that it is almost a suburb of Ottawa.

The trees were just starting to colour up in Ottawa; by the time that we got to Montreal and Quebec, they were starting to look pretty spectacular (and they were the main reason for the trip!)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 17 October 2013, 14:29:25
Michael (MAPurves) arrives in Oz on Saturday. I hope things cool down for him.
http://www.themercury.com.au/news/national/hundreds-left-homeless-as-the-gravest-bushfire-emergency-in-a-decade-strikes-nsw-this-is-as-bad-as-it-gets-says-barry-o8217farrell/story-fnj3ty2c-1226741636446 (http://www.themercury.com.au/news/national/hundreds-left-homeless-as-the-gravest-bushfire-emergency-in-a-decade-strikes-nsw-this-is-as-bad-as-it-gets-says-barry-o8217farrell/story-fnj3ty2c-1226741636446)
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Post by: Caro on 17 October 2013, 16:46:30
Indeed. Let's hope that promised 10-degree temperature drop helps to bring the fires under control.
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Post by: Pommy Stuart on 18 October 2013, 23:43:38
The bottom set of dots are about 30km North from my home and the wind is currently n - nnw slightly away from us.
"Smoke plumes from raging wildfires in New South Wales, Australia, as captured by NASA?s Aqua satellite on Thursday, Oct. 17, 2013. Each red dot represents a location where a fire was detected by Aqua. Sydney is located on the coast under the thickest plume. (Image: NASA)"
http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/imageo/files/2013/10/Blue-Mountains-Fire2.jpg (http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/imageo/files/2013/10/Blue-Mountains-Fire2.jpg)

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Post by: Steeleye on 19 October 2013, 00:26:45
Nearest fires to us are about 90km away - and they are not upwind of us. However, we awoke to a strong smoke haze this morning and it has just got heavier as the day has gone on.

Might not need to throw a prawn on the barbie come Christmas time; I think we'll just leave them outside in the sun for a while instead.

 :'(
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Post by: Janet Jaguar on 19 October 2013, 00:40:27
Both of you take care - fires that big are scary at any time.  We'll be thinking of you.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Dean on 19 October 2013, 01:52:59
Stay safe, you guys!  We'll keep you and yours in our thoughts and prayers.

Please keep us advised as you can about your safety. ;)
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Post by: Pommy Stuart on 19 October 2013, 02:05:51
Thanks.
No problems just yet, waiting for Monday.
The local fire is nowhere near the size of the last Californian fire but it only takes a stray ember to burn down a house as a friend found out in Springwood on Tuesday
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Post by: Randi on 19 October 2013, 02:09:24
Frightening.
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Post by: Caro on 21 October 2013, 02:39:45
Morning world.

Hope some cool, wet weather arrives in NSW soon, Stuart and Howard.
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Post by: Steeleye on 21 October 2013, 03:24:35
Thanks Caro.  The cool days, such as they were, were over the weekend, although there are several big fires still out of control.  Back into the 30s today and the winds are predicted to strengthen on Wednesday. The consensus among the NSW fire service is that conditions are the worst they have been since the late 60s.

A few bits from the ABC website:

[i]Emergency warnings have been issued for two major bushfires which have flared up in New South Wales, as fire crews warn the crisis could worsen in the coming days.

The Rural Fire Service (RFS) has upgraded the danger status for the fire burning near Springwood and the State Mine fire near Lithgow.

A watch and act alert remains in place for Mount Victoria and the Hall Road fire in the Southern Highlands, though fire crews warn the situation could deteriorate at any time.

The RFS has called the bushfire threat an "unparalleled" emergency, and fire crews have spent the day aggressively back-burning in a bid to stop two major bushfires joining up.

At least 200 homes have already been lost and a state of emergency is in effect across the state, giving authorities powers to forcibly remove people, cut electricity and water supplies, and shore up or demolish buildings.[/i]
Latest gallery of photos is at http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-10-17/nsw-bushfires-in-pictures/5030166 (http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-10-17/nsw-bushfires-in-pictures/5030166)


Nothing much closer than about 80km away for us.

Our daughter is a volunteer in a local unit of the State Emergency Service.  She (and we) are rather relieved that she is not a volunteer in the Rural Fire Service - floods and storm damage are slightly more predictable than bushfires.
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Post by: studentforever on 21 October 2013, 03:36:04
Horrific pics.
Keep safe.
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Post by: Janet Jaguar on 21 October 2013, 03:58:02
Stay safe, take care, both of you.  That is really scary.
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Post by: szukacz on 21 October 2013, 04:09:24
 :'(
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Post by: jil on 21 October 2013, 05:24:20
Very scary and sad photos.
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Post by: Steeleye on 21 October 2013, 05:37:51
I just had a look at the Wikipedia entry for bushfires in Oz, which includes a list of all the significant fires, mainly in the last 70 years.  With a couple of exceptions, the fires occur during the peak season of December-March, by which time much of the bush has dried out, particularly in an El Nino year.

The 'real' bushfire season is still two months away. That is worrying.  Our US friends have been having some bad years recently; are your fire seasons starting earlier?
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Dean on 21 October 2013, 07:15:33
:'(
Very scary and sad photos.
Stay safe, take care, both of you.  That is really scary.

We'll keep you all in our thoughts and prayers.

Stay safe!
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Helen J on 21 October 2013, 07:17:12
Thinking of everyone affected by the fires, and those who can only wait.  Stay safe.
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Post by: Steeleye on 21 October 2013, 07:47:47
Good evening all,

Thanks for your kind thoughts at this time.  While Stuart and I both live in SE Oz (Canberra and Wollongong), we are both out of the line of fire at the moment ... well I certainly am, and I think that he is also. However, a 2-hour drive from here, and about one hour from Stuart, and things would be very different.

Cheers,
Howard


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Post by: Randi on 21 October 2013, 07:52:35
Relieved for you two - but so sorry for those who are in the area.
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Post by: Thursday Next on 21 October 2013, 09:18:12
So glad to hear that neither of you are in immediate danger - but those pictures really bring home the tragedy of the situation.  I just wish I could let you have some of the heavy rain we are experiencing in the UK.
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Post by: studentforever on 21 October 2013, 10:52:12
They were talking to a young wife from Oz on the radio at lunchtime and they escaped in the car with the clothes they were wearing, the hard drive on the computer and the dog.  Makes you think.

Stay safe.
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Post by: Pommy Stuart on 21 October 2013, 16:57:23
Picture (from 5yrs ago) relates to up coming Doodle. I have so far landed in 8 different areas in the doodle.

The instructors let go of me about 5000ft above the ground, %^(.
Location, above Wilton NSW, just north of the 'Balmoral' fire and about 40 km north of home.
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Post by: Janet Jaguar on 21 October 2013, 17:31:18
What a spectacular way to celebrate coming of age by growing!  :D
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Post by: Caro on 22 October 2013, 02:46:38
Morning. Great Google doodle, yes. I landed the parachutist on a passing yacht.  :)
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Post by: Janet Jaguar on 22 October 2013, 04:09:37
Mine landed on an iceberg with lots of penguins.
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Post by: Hanibal94 on 22 October 2013, 13:14:41
Mine landed on the iceberg once, and in the ocean everytime after that, but it never sank.
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Post by: Pommy Stuart on 22 October 2013, 15:12:55
You still have an Elephant, Horse & carrage, whale, houses, windmill, palm tree and some other stranges trees to find.
Keep playing.
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Post by: Pommy Stuart on 22 October 2013, 20:41:54
Not a lot done but a nice matching set of figures.
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Post by: Janet Jaguar on 22 October 2013, 20:43:45
Congrats and a serious accomplishment.  :)


I too tried several, I got all of yours but never Caro's yacht.  The crowded iceberg loved me too much.
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Post by: Pommy Stuart on 22 October 2013, 23:19:24
Yep, those cute penguins have that attraction.
I will say your hello to then in 3 weeks time.  %^)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 22 October 2013, 23:38:03
Seriously enjoy that trip, it's the chance of a lifetime.  :)
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Post by: Caro on 23 October 2013, 02:46:25
Hello world and bon voyage Stuart.
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Post by: studentforever on 23 October 2013, 04:05:09
Have a good trip and tell us about it when you get back.
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Post by: Pommy Stuart on 23 October 2013, 04:17:03
Thanks for your best wishes.
5 Nov. shorts and Tee shirts packed.
3 1/2 weeks holiday in Antarctica/Argentina/Peru.
Looking forward to it. %^)

Janeece stays at home. %^(

Pics will follow.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 24 October 2013, 14:36:50
I just saw this today.  Everybody in the US, think back over the last 3 days - has anyone spotted Marty McFly?

(https://scontent-a-ord.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/p480x480/1013354_10151651348946216_1591702522_n.jpg)
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Post by: propriome on 24 October 2013, 14:48:01
 ;D Aww... it's a prank circulating widley these days ;D

The real date should be 21 Oct 2015, we'll have to wait just a little more :D :D

From the original movie (unless it's a prank too :o): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UrIqYeRVzHE&noredirect=1
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 24 October 2013, 14:59:23
Thanks - I just informed my niece of the joke on her, as I had gotten it from her site.  It made me think, tho, on the fun of checking the imagination in these movies against current events.  :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Randi on 24 October 2013, 15:19:58
Marty McFly Returns
Hoax
http://www.snopes.com/inboxer/hoaxes/bttf.asp
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Post by: propriome on 24 October 2013, 15:21:38
Yup, i was tricked too when a friend posted it on facebook, then some other friend pointed out the real date... movie industry is enough old to have films on the future which can now be checked (by the way, we've had not a space odissey in 2001, as far as i can remember ;D).

It's curious that this does not happen with books... I'm pretty sure H.G.Wells or Ray Bradbury, for example, wrote stories within a specific year in the future, which is now past - but I have never heard someone saying in 1999 "today starts the Rocket Summer" (from Martian Chronicles). :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Thursday Next on 24 October 2013, 15:23:16
I seem to remember people getting a bit nervous as we got close to 1984, though!
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Post by: studentforever on 24 October 2013, 16:29:45
My blood pressure has just gone off scale. I use bt for my internet and they've just changed their system. Yes, they have been warning us that e-mail log in will be changing soon for the last couple of months. I logged on this afternoon as usual, this evening the system had changed.  Could I find the calendar that I usually used - No!.  On-line help was useless. The automated phone help system didn't give an option that fitted.  Eventually I managed to get a human.  It took two goes and a safe mode reboot to manage to log onto a program that allowed him to almost sort out my system.  A quick check of tomorrow's entries took about 2 hours.  Before the change I had a quick alert on the homepage - gone!

I can now use the same system on the tablet I don't have, the smart phone I don't have and no doubt several other gadgets that I also don't have but the system doesn't give me the nice little touches that I actually used and valued - like messages waiting on e-mail and calendar alerts.  I don't need to check my bt account every time I log on - I don't use the net through mobile phones - but I do like my calendar alerts.

Does anyone know how to wring someone's neck in cyberspace because that is what I'd like to do!!
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Dean on 24 October 2013, 17:49:04
Problem is that No matter how much you push the envelope, it'll still be stationery.  ::)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 24 October 2013, 17:54:42
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Does anyone know how to wring someone's neck in cyberspace because that is what I'd like to do!!

Please share that information with me.  I've gone thru this 3 times with different agencies in the last couple of years -this month, my new cta bus pass system took me 4 hours on the phone to fail to get the card mailed to me twice.  And we finally got me a card, but now they cannot give me the $12.60 still sitting unused in the old card system - which loss they promised everyone wouldn't happen - because I wasn't using one of the cards lost in the mail.  (And no, this time it was definitely not the Post Awful's fault; when I finally could look at my own new account, they had put my address on the wrong street entirely.) >:(

Problem is that No matter how much you push the envelope, it'll still be stationery.  ::)


 ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: studentforever on 24 October 2013, 19:12:24
Janet, whether being glad it's not just me is schadenfreude or not I don't know but at least now it isn't personal.  So far my bus pass (free!!) is working just fine.  Whatever freaked Windows a few weeks ago was sorted at Microsoft by a lovely lass. The lad tonight was very patient but the system he was working with upset my system and we had to work in safe mode. Two reboots of the machine.

I might be a pedant but warning me that it would happen is not the same as explaining in advance how to use the new system.  I bet the chap who had the bright idea doesn't have to sort out the problems over the phone though - if he did he might think things through a bit more carefully.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 24 October 2013, 20:04:15
Yeah - people who understand cyberspace inside out get very arrogant - it never occurs to them to check if the system can also work for the non-geek users, let alone the computer illiterate.
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Post by: jil on 25 October 2013, 08:33:13
Me too anti-BT! Although I haven't used the calendar so not quite as bad for me. But I still miss the home page that could be set up with various news feeds that I've been using since the BBC changed their home page from the nice one that could be set up with panels of the bits of the BBC you were interested in (i.e. NOT sport or entertainment!) to the whizzy picture strewn one (I presume it's still like that - I've been boycotting it - previous technology  >:( )
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: studentforever on 25 October 2013, 09:05:13
I took one look at a Windows 8 desktop and thought 'No Way!'.  So I went to a local shop and got a new notebook with Windows 7.  I quite like Windows 7 but Windows 8 is a horror. I gather there has been such an outcry that 8.1 has been quite extensively modified.  I don't want a touch screen on my notebook however good they are on tablets or smartphones.

I've now set Yahoo as my home page - it isn't  as nice as the old btYahoo one but it is a darn sight more friendly than the BT one.  I just hope that I don't lose the ability to see email alerts in the future.

You have my sympathy over BBC as well - you used to be able to get program listings with a couple clicks, now it is quite frustrating.  No doubt it is all due to their new, improved digital services!!
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Thursday Next on 25 October 2013, 13:46:04
Me too anti-BT! Although I haven't used the calendar so not quite as bad for me. But I still miss the home page that could be set up with various news feeds that I've been using since the BBC changed their home page from the nice one that could be set up with panels of the bits of the BBC you were interested in (i.e. NOT sport or entertainment!) to the whizzy picture strewn one (I presume it's still like that - I've been boycotting it - previous technology  >:( )

Yes, it is still like that - I did stick with it as my homepage, but do miss the old customizable one.  However, there is a plus side - I now spot very little that distracts me so I am less likely to be diverted from what I intended to do, so must be saving lots of time.  Although I am no doubt missing out on lots of interesting information!  Three years ago Old Weather came up on my personalized home page and that's how I found out about it - that would pass me by now.  (I did subsequently hear an item on Radio 4, so I would still have got here eventually.)

Sorry to hear about the problems you are all having with BT.  I'm relieved that I am not with them - and now I can prepare myself for the rant I am undoubtedly going to hear from one of my friends in due course! 
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 25 October 2013, 14:26:07
MSN homepage (US) (http://www.msn.com/) is full of interesting stuff, and if you scroll down there is a customizable calendar.  I've never used it, so I don't know what other bells and whistles it has. And I have no idea whether or not it is availble for the UK.  Maybe just google "pc calendar app"?
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 25 October 2013, 14:57:56
They call the BBC the 'BROKEN Biscuit Co.' ? or in your case 'The Broken Broadcast Company'
What do you expect.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 25 October 2013, 15:18:50
Sounds like our ATT - "the company you love to hate" :(
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: studentforever on 25 October 2013, 15:54:41
There are times when the B in both BT and BBC is replaced by something considerably more forceful than 'broken'.

As my ex-Prof once said 'If you weren't a lady I would tell you what I would like to do to those b...s in the finance office.  Since you are an engineer, work it out for yourself.

If this wasn't a public forum ...
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 25 October 2013, 18:35:18
 ;D
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Post by: Pommy Stuart on 27 October 2013, 19:37:51
Concord 3/4 Aug 1895.

Interesting, (well it may be to some) log book comments.

http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Concord/vol019of040/vol019of040_191_1.jpg
The detention of Charles Hansen (Actg ships cook 1st c) being essential to the public interests, he will, by order of the Commanding Officer, receive from this date an addition to his pay of one fourth of the pay he was receiving yesterday, when his enlistment expired.

http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Concord/vol019of040/vol019of040_192_1.jpg
The detention of Elias Mitchell (Fireman 2nd class) being essential to the public interests, he will, by order of the Commanding Officer, receive from this date an addition to his pay of one fourth of the pay he was receiving yesterday, when his enlistment expired.

I wonder what the public interest was?
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 27 October 2013, 20:55:35
Public interest = avoiding hiring Korean replacements who know no English at all?

I do wonder, if these men really wanted to be crew until they got all the way home, but thought it worth the raise to fail to re-enlist.  25% is a very hefty raise.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Caro on 28 October 2013, 02:03:44
Good morning OW.
Hope you are all OK, southern UK dwellers.
The wind has been ferocious here in the SE but I think it's starting to slow down.
Good luck Netherlands and Denmark!

From Twitter:
'There are no trains in Sussex this morning owing to leaves on the line, most of them still attached to trees.'
 :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: studentforever on 28 October 2013, 02:56:11
 ;D ;D
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Post by: AvastMH on 28 October 2013, 03:34:25
 ;D ;D ;D

(old joke - what's the definition of a tree? Something that stands still for 300 years then leaps in front of a adriver)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 28 October 2013, 04:42:36
How are all you UK folks doing - are your homes still in place?  This sounds unbelievably ferocious.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Steeleye on 28 October 2013, 04:49:59
From Twitter:
'There are no trains in Sussex this morning owing to leaves on the line, most of them still attached to trees.'
 :)

Good one, Caro! It reminds me of a story from my former place of work dating back to the 70s.  The organisation that I worked for (Bureau of Mineral Resources, or BMR) was carrying out a long-term geophysical survey of the Australian continent using a helicopter operated by a contractor. BMR had a 'client rep' who used to fly with the contractor and operate the gravity measuring equipment.  One morning, our man rang the office in Canberra from somewhere in the Northern Territory and said:
"The pilot says we won't be flying today. He says it's because there's water in the carburettor. I thinks it's because the helicopter is upside-down in a creek."

 :-[
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Caro on 28 October 2013, 05:28:18
 ;D That old excuse!
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Randi on 28 October 2013, 06:06:47
 ;D ;D ;D

Well, that might get water in the carburetor ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Dean on 28 October 2013, 15:59:34
There's a saying in aviation, a code of honor:

Fly it all the way to the scene of the crash. ::)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 29 October 2013, 01:01:55
Interesting week in Sydney.

Climate change, bull
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Steeleye on 29 October 2013, 01:30:47
If it was four-seasons-in-one-day-Melbourne, you could possibly have added a dash of snow (or at least a little sleet) to the mix.

A fair amount (maybe half) of the Canberra region grape crop got clobbered by a couple of sharp frosts in the past week or so.  An interesting counter-point to the fires.

Better get used to it, Stuart.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 29 October 2013, 03:02:06
I could never get used to loosing a wine crop.   :'(
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Caro on 29 October 2013, 03:28:58
Greetings all.
Calm, sunny and 8-9C where I am; no complaints.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Dean on 29 October 2013, 19:11:42
I could never get used to loosing a wine crop.   :'(

Around here after a freeze or two they collect the grapes and make ice wine! ;D

http://www.winesofcanada.com/icewine.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ice_wine
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 29 October 2013, 19:24:22
I've always thought ice wine was invented by vintners desperate to save a crop after an early frost.  I hear it is wonderful. 
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Caro on 30 October 2013, 02:29:18
Hello world.
First frost of the season (autumn!) this morning.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Randi on 30 October 2013, 14:10:15
Sitting straight 'bad for backs'  (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/6187080.stm)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 30 October 2013, 14:33:57
I've always thought ice wine was invented by vintners desperate to save a crop after an early frost.  I hear it is wonderful.

I have some at home. Come round for a tipple.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Thursday Next on 30 October 2013, 15:02:11
Sitting straight 'bad for backs'  (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/6187080.stm)

Hmmm - and if I recline at 135o I'm not sure how my keyboard and mouse would need to be placed ... I could see this leading to shoulder and arm problems!
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 30 October 2013, 15:11:21
Shoulder and arm problems can be fixed by swinging a pint or three.   ;D
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Post by: Dean on 30 October 2013, 15:30:54
And my mother used to yell at me for tipping back in the chair. I was doing GOOD! Who knew! ::)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Hanibal94 on 31 October 2013, 04:21:07
Happy Halloween everybody!

Here (https://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=b20KFYFhBZg) is a four (https://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=DJCkQUdA9QQ) part guide (https://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=ofXPOaoZP_) on the fine art of pumpkin killing. (https://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=ZpblkKZBJc8)

Enjoy, but be careful or this could be you:

(http://www.funnypica.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/Halloween-Funny-Pumpkins-49.jpg)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 31 October 2013, 09:12:14
It's an appropriately dark and blustery day here by me.

Happy Halloween everyone!
(http://www.picgifs.com/graphics/h/halloween/graphics-halloween-551456.gif)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Dean on 31 October 2013, 19:30:27
The Trick or Treaters are out!!!
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Caro on 01 November 2013, 02:37:35
Scary and not a little weird!

Good morning all.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Randi on 01 November 2013, 02:45:58
Some VERY patient dogs ;D
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Post by: Craig on 01 November 2013, 04:36:31
I'll bet that pose didn't last longer than the click of the shutter.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Kevin on 02 November 2013, 00:34:00
The just freezing Chukchi Sea - not so far from the where the Jeannette was beset. Three more flights to go. 
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 02 November 2013, 01:01:15
Beautifully cold, thanks for the look-in, Kevin.  :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Craig on 02 November 2013, 05:27:28
Thanks, Kevin. Very nice!
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Helen J on 02 November 2013, 07:26:40
Thanks, Kevin; makes our windy autumn day here in England look very summery!
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: studentforever on 02 November 2013, 07:52:01
The problem here is the daylight or rather lack of it.  I'm having my lunch and haven't yet been able to switch off the light.  This is the part of winter that I find difficult.  Some people reckon that as the climate warms Scotland may get cloudier. I find that I want very much to up my carbon footprint and fly south to find some SUN.  Somehow I think that the lack of light & greenery would bother me as much in prison and the lack of freedom.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 02 November 2013, 10:56:40
Rosemary, there are light bulbs constructed to give full spectrum light to plants, available at any plant nursery.  Many able to be put in very ordinary desk lamps, for anyone working in a windowless cubicle.  I  always put them in my room lamps in winter.  They never been tested by experts working with SAD because they are very ordinary without carefully measured output and without the intensity that force users to use them in specific, quantifiable ways.  But they stay on for hours all evening long, and make the difference between depression and my room feeling comfy.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Thursday Next on 02 November 2013, 13:31:13
The problem here is the daylight or rather lack of it.  I'm having my lunch and haven't yet been able to switch off the light.  This is the part of winter that I find difficult.  Some people reckon that as the climate warms Scotland may get cloudier. I find that I want very much to up my carbon footprint and fly south to find some SUN.  Somehow I think that the lack of light & greenery would bother me as much in prison and the lack of freedom.

I find this a difficult time of year as well, though obviously I am getting more daylight than you, being further south.  For me, it is not just the short days, but knowing that they are going to get shorter still for quite some time before we get to the solstice.  At least once we get to January I can see it getting lighter earlier and darker later, and that makes me feel more cheerful, even though the days are still very short.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Helen J on 02 November 2013, 14:06:47
I'm with both of you - I always just want to hibernate in November.  I think it is the shorter days, and knowing it's a long time until they get longer again.  Even though January/February often have much worse weather, I find them much less gloomy.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 02 November 2013, 14:47:29
I had a friend who every autumn started squirreling/hording/stocking up her pantry like there was no tomorrow, frantic to have enough.  And then just burrowed in and spent the winter sleeping as much as possible.  I guess some of us just never lost the hibernation instinct, convinced this was not a good time to do anything energetic.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: studentforever on 02 November 2013, 14:54:30
I have got a SAD lamp which lifts the depression but not the sense of deprivation. I might try the full spectrum bulbs but I've got low energy ones in all the living spaces - you can't win.  I miss the teaching I used to do in Greece at the end of Jan - I stopped shortly after I retired.  That gave me a real boost.
Thanks for your suggestions - I do get the urge to stock up the store cupboard though.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: AvastMH on 02 November 2013, 19:04:44
I've had my SAD lamp out at work this week. I've spent 4 years working almost entirely without day light. A move at work left me, hurrah!, next to a huge window. The sky mostly blocked by the next door neighbours, at least the walls were white and the lighting good. Then huge 'pin boards' arrived surrounding my desk in mid grey. I felt so cast down, it was instant misery. Shamefully I admit to throwing my toys straight out of the pram - just as the chief administrator came in with the architect in tow.  I have to see the chief administrator at 10.30 on Monday morning. Think of me then. :-\ ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 02 November 2013, 19:06:13
Unlucky timing.  Good luck with the meeting. :-*
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: AvastMH on 02 November 2013, 19:07:59
Thanks Janet! :-*
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Randi on 03 November 2013, 02:54:41
(http://justcoopit.files.wordpress.com/2011/11/four-leaf-clover.jpg)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: studentforever on 03 November 2013, 03:34:36
Know how you feel. I spent years in an inside office and a lot of time doing electron microscopy in a blacked out room with most of the lights off then in the darkroom dealing with the products of the microscopy session.

I once organised the poster session at a conference and solved the problem of getting people to look at the posters during the coffee break. I persuaded them to let me put spot lighting over the boards so that the posters were the brightest part of the room - add in plenty of space between the boards so people could circulate and chat and the delegates were drawn like bees to flowers.

If all else fails see if you can get some led lamps over the grey boards and cover them with some attractive posters.

Good luck
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Helen J on 03 November 2013, 07:17:00
Good luck for Monday, Joan.  At least the administrator knows you're really unhappy about your lightless condition - hope something can be done to improve it.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Randi on 03 November 2013, 07:56:26
Not to mention all the stress you have been under for the last several weeks.

(You could mention the loo with the clear glass windows :o ;))
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Thursday Next on 03 November 2013, 13:15:45
I, too, spent a long time working in a dark corner of a large office with little natural lighting.  I used to call it "The Dungeon".  It was very, very depressing.  Good luck with your meeting tomorrow, Joan.  I hope your chief administrator can understand how important it is to have light and colour around you in the work environment.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 03 November 2013, 14:03:42
My office the last 9 years I worked was walled off in the dead center of the factory floor.  Lots of windows so I could see what was happening, but no spec of sunlight.  I really do get it.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 03 November 2013, 14:21:02
I, too, spent a long time working in a dark corner of a large office with little natural lighting.  I used to call it "The Dungeon".  It was very, very depressing.  Good luck with your meeting tomorrow, Joan.  I hope your chief administrator can understand how important it is to have light and colour around you in the work environment.

Please do not use colorful language to enlighten him.   :o
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Randi on 03 November 2013, 14:25:32
 :P
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: AvastMH on 03 November 2013, 15:13:18
Thanks everyone! :-* :-* :-*
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Post by: Dean on 03 November 2013, 16:10:11
THIS LITTLE LIGHT OF MINE

This little light of mine, I'm gonna let it shine.
This little light of mine, I'm gonna let it shine
Let it shine, let it shine, let it shine.

Won't let Satan blow it out.
I'm gonna let it shine.
Won't let Satan blow it out.
I'm gonna let it shine, let it shine, let it shine, let it shine.

Let it shine til Jesus comes.
I'm gonna let it shine.
Let it shine til Jesus comes.
I'm gonna let it shine, let it shine, let it shine, let it shine.

Hide it under a bushel, no!
I'm gonna let it shine.
Hide it under a bushel, no!
I'm gonna let it shine, Let it shine, let it shine, let it shine.

Let it shine over the whole wide world,
I'm gonna let it shine.
Let it shine over the whole wide world,
I'm gonna let it shine, let it shine, let it shine, let it shine... ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Randi on 04 November 2013, 03:32:39
(http://www.desismileys.com/smileys/desismileys_0496.gif)
 :-*
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: AvastMH on 04 November 2013, 17:43:56
You are all wonderful - what would I do without you? I felt quite buoyed up by you all - even had Dean warbling in my ear as I went to the meeting!
Actually no great problems - we had a chat about the ongoing troubles with the new building. In fact it was rather nice just to sit down and be able to talk common sense about the whole thing. Phew! I'm hoping that another couple of weeks will see the worst over and me able to get some time back here - where the real work of life is...
Thanks again you good people!

(http://imageshack.us/a/img7/7485/2xrq.gif)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Steeleye on 04 November 2013, 17:44:07
Good morning all,

In view of the wintery messages that I've seen here in the past couple of days, I thought I would post a couple of photos taken from our two balconies earlier this morning to try to convince you that the sun is still shining somewhere in the world.

The first is from the outside balcony looking across at the Australian Academy of Science admin building, and the second is our courtyard balcony soaking up the sun's rays.

Winter will come to an end, I promise you!
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: AvastMH on 04 November 2013, 17:46:00
What's missing from those photos? - ME!  Looks lovely - you enjoy it! ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Steeleye on 04 November 2013, 17:52:12
Just about to enjoy it by walking round the lake and doing our shopping (about 8 km).  Warm, but not hot, cloudless and windless.  I keep trying to feel guilty, but I'm afraid it's just not working this morning.

 :-[
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 04 November 2013, 17:56:05
Will try and send you some iceberg photos to warm you up. %^)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Randi on 04 November 2013, 18:20:12
You are all wonderful - what would I do without you? I felt quite buoyed up by you all - even had Dean warbling in my ear as I went to the meeting!
Actually no great problems - we had a chat about the ongoing troubles with the new building. In fact it was rather nice just to sit down and be able to talk common sense about the whole thing. Phew! I'm hoping that another couple of weeks will see the worst over and me able to get some time back here - where the real work of life is...
Thanks again you good people!

Good to hear!
Now I can go to sleep soundly.
 :-*
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Kevin on 04 November 2013, 21:04:39
A view of a snow squall in the Chukchi Sea the other afternoon. Tomorrow off again to 74 30 N 165 00 W. If the weather is clear we may get an oblique view of the spot the JEANNETTE was stuck. Maybe see some PBs. Going home to Seattle Wednesday to spend a few days with family before sailing off again to Reykjavik on Saturday.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Caro on 05 November 2013, 03:00:32
Amazing pic! Thanks Kevin, and enjoy your short break at home.

Well done Joan.  ;)

Hello OW.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Helen J on 05 November 2013, 05:26:42
Hello OW - lots of lovely things here this morning!  Glad to hear all went well, Joan, and enjoyed all the pics.  Trying to type over a very determined cat .... who is very keen to sit on my lap although it really doesn't work while at my desk.  Means I'm typing at arm's length as I can't get any closer.  One of us is going to have to give up doing what we're doing - any guesses who it will be?
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: studentforever on 05 November 2013, 06:12:22
If your cat is anything like my late cat you have two choices - give in or arise from your seat and accept the indignant response.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Randi on 05 November 2013, 06:20:21
Better to remind yourself how lucky you are to have a cat sitting on your lap :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: propriome on 05 November 2013, 06:53:44
When a cat chooses you as his own pet (humans generally think the opposite... they're clearly wrong) you're a lucky person :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Craig on 05 November 2013, 07:10:09
Nice picture, Kevin. Makes me regret my desk job  ;D

My cat never returned from last year's Halloween. I set my wireless network name to Charlie in case he is still prowling around.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 05 November 2013, 10:35:22
About our previous conversations on Foucault pendulums, I spent the day yesterday at the Museum of Science and Industy.  The one that is as old as the museum itself is still there and well, in the blue staircase well.  The new one is part of the Storm Weather wing, which is very fascinating.  It has everything from a 40' artificial tornado to a giant Tesla Coil in the ceiling to an avalanche demonstration that never stops moving.  And the Story of Trains still has 20 model trains running constantly over a 1400 sq.ft. surface, but has been updated to show modern Chicago and the industries that ship by rail between us and Seattle.  This is really a great museum to see if anyone visits us.  :)

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-bPpqoXWSX9w/UnkEEQCixZI/AAAAAAAACa8/ClDYhcB49i4/w383-h511-no/MSI+Foucault+Pendulum.jpg)(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-oN0rK6DBNBo/Unj9QWonTWI/AAAAAAAACZg/NxXW63p8ehE/w383-h511-no/MSI+Storm+weather+5.jpg)

Replica Wright Bros. flyer and one-winged body of Boeing 727 (exhibits inside).
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-ypblSm3Yrdc/UnkEscilheI/AAAAAAAACcE/4rwfue5syDc/w681-h511-no/MSI+flight+Wright+to+727.jpg)

18th century barometers - the dial is on a "wheel barometer" however that works.
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-4WphaVcEUcQ/Unj_H6zEzoI/AAAAAAAACas/EkR2OrdFoSI/w383-h511-no/MSI+barometers.jpg)

And everyone like to watch moving model trains!!  These travel from Chicago with its 'L' thru the plains and the mountains to Seattle.
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-dnnD7xJhQ9U/UnkIU27s3LI/AAAAAAAACeg/zTP6q0mRBsc/w681-h511-no/MSI+Story+of+Trains+6.jpg)(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-6qZouI5G2Ug/UnkIP2I9dJI/AAAAAAAACeE/vy-bKir08Y0/w681-h511-no/MSI+Story+of+Trains+1.jpg)
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-qIGm1vVsaog/UnkIP6jGhhI/AAAAAAAACeI/_isJ4k8Y7AY/w681-h511-no/MSI+Story+of+Trains+2.jpg)
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-BviICzc1zDM/UnkIP5b3zsI/AAAAAAAACeM/qCwHtZUgt_c/w681-h511-no/MSI+Story+of+Trains+3.jpg)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: studentforever on 05 November 2013, 11:01:04
Craig, sorry to hear about Charlie, my Ginger went missing many years ago and I can still remember the heartache of not knowing.
Janet, the Museum looks fab and if I ever get over my resentment of the amount of personal data required by the US Government before they will let me set foot on the continent I will definitely have it on my list.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Helen J on 05 November 2013, 12:17:38
If your cat is anything like my late cat you have two choices - give in or arise from your seat and accept the indignant response.

Enjoyed all the cat lover comments - all very true!  We came to a compromise (well really I compromised - are you surprised?) and I moved to the armchair with several books I needed to be reading, and the cat (who isn't even mine, but lives in the house I live in) happily settled on my lap.  Cat 1, Human 0.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Caro on 05 November 2013, 12:24:51
Ship's Cat does not do 'compromise'.
She frequently complains about my bad attitude.

Excellent museum, Janet.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Helen J on 05 November 2013, 13:00:10
I don't think any cats know the word 'compromise' - certainly not as something relevant to them.   :D

Loved the museum too, Janet.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Dean on 05 November 2013, 13:42:43
Janet, et al.:

Here's your railroad/Airport set up to visit!!

http://devour.com/video/miniatur-wunderland/
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Caro on 05 November 2013, 14:37:40
I will be amazed!  ;D
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Post by: Janet Jaguar on 05 November 2013, 15:09:43
Dean that tops anything I've seen anywhere.  Thanks for the link.  :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Randi on 05 November 2013, 15:22:14
Janet, et al.:

Here's your railroad/Airport set up to visit!!

http://devour.com/video/miniatur-wunderland/


WOW ! ! !
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Kathy on 06 November 2013, 00:36:06
I have been to Miniatur Wunderland. It really is something. My husband is a serious train enthusiast, so most of our trips involve some sort of rail. There were some parts of the Merklin layout we found rather shocking - a murder investigation and a couple in a field that were inflagrante delicto!
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Caro on 06 November 2013, 02:50:06
Yes indeed, there is a lot going on in Knuffingen and surrounding countries. :)

Morning all.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Caro on 08 November 2013, 02:58:45
Hello OW.
Feeling sorry for the Philippines suffering in 195 mph winds.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Randi on 08 November 2013, 07:09:01
Terrible :(
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 08 November 2013, 10:01:31
I'm praying for all in the path of that storm.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Kathy on 08 November 2013, 10:15:00
I can't even imagine what that must sound like -
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 09 November 2013, 11:07:46
I found this  when I went to look up today's weather - a super storm I had never heard of.  Bear in mind, the Great Lakes have waves of much shorter periods than oceans, so a 35-foot wave would be hitting the ships less than a minute apart.

Great Storm of 1913 (http://www.crh.noaa.gov/images/dtx/climate/1913Retrospective.pdf)

Nothing at all to compare with what grew in the Pacific this week, but it did surprise me at its length and size.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Helen J on 09 November 2013, 12:22:38
For those with access to BBC Radio 4, there's a short programme tomorrow morning (11.45am) on the work of the Commonwealth War Graves Commission, called Some Corner of a Foreign Field.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Randi on 10 November 2013, 03:28:02
http://encyclopedia.thefreedictionary.com/San+Serriffe ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Hanibal94 on 10 November 2013, 12:41:09
Good evening, all. Nice joke, Randi.

Here (http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=6a6VVncgHcY) is a great bit of good news just in time for Veteran's Day.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Randi on 10 November 2013, 13:34:35
Great!
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Dean on 10 November 2013, 16:15:06
Powerful!!

Here is another for Veterans/Armistice/Remembrance Day (http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=9dR3h2HdnBQ)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: AvastMH on 10 November 2013, 16:30:54
That was beautiful Hanibal :-*
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Randi on 10 November 2013, 17:22:56
Powerful!!

Here is another for Veterans/Armistice/Remembrance Day (http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=9dR3h2HdnBQ)

Fascinating - and horrible.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Caro on 11 November 2013, 01:44:12
Good morning OW on this Armistice Day.

Lest we forget.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-24745705
Bless 'em.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 11 November 2013, 05:58:04
Veterans Day
  by Roger W Hancock
 
We honor you, who fought for us,
for country's sake of freedom's plight.
You kept the greatest country great,
by sacrifice of you who served.
 
Honor to military, soldiers served.
There seems no risk in peace to serve.
When war breaks the silent peace,
no peace when security cease.
 
Sacrifice of civilian life,
careers succumb to enlist, or draft.
Families wait in fear, in prayer,
for loved ones return alive, not dead.
 
Returned Heroes and those deceased,
we honor, thank, though insufficient.
Parades, programs, our pride convey,
we honor you on Veterans Day.
 
  -  12-28-2001 Roger W Hancock www.PoetPatriot.com
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Thursday Next on 11 November 2013, 11:33:43
Good morning OW on this Armistice Day.

Lest we forget.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-24745705
Bless 'em.

Was going to post that link myself, but thought either you or Randi might beat me to it!
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Randi on 11 November 2013, 13:51:37
 ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: AvastMH on 11 November 2013, 13:57:44
And thinking of all those in the Philipines who know the meaning of loss in a very raw way today.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Randi on 11 November 2013, 13:59:25
YES
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 11 November 2013, 14:19:39
Praying for all in the path of that storm.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Hanibal94 on 11 November 2013, 15:08:21
Help is already on the way:

http://www.goodnewsnetwork.org/civics/tourists-stranded-in-philippines-help-pack-relief-supplies.html
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Caro on 11 November 2013, 16:25:55
That is good to see, Hanibal.
Let's hope that the bereaved and desperate people of the Philippines get the help they need as soon as possible.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Randi on 13 November 2013, 06:54:28
Vast Antarctic iceberg 'could threaten shipping' (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-24912233)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 13 November 2013, 12:41:02
more than a bit frightening.

And some still say our climate is not changing? ???
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: CHommel on 14 November 2013, 17:17:08
Good morning OW on this Armistice Day.

Lest we forget.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-24745705
Bless 'em.

Wonderful post, Caro!  Thanks!
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Hanibal94 on 15 November 2013, 15:54:08
Evening everybody.

Here (http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=PSpoMWQRCiU) is another great piece of good news I just have to share.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 15 November 2013, 16:00:42
Thanks, Hanibal, what a wonderful man enriching our future.  :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: asterix135 on 15 November 2013, 16:17:36
Quote
The uploader has not made this video available in your country

 :( :'(

Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 15 November 2013, 16:27:46
Ouch - it's a CBS News clip.  Apparently they are returning the BBC refusal to allow Americans into their clips - both of which irritate me muchly.

Quote
Uploaded on Dec 14, 2009
A retired Scottish-born man should have died long ago. But after facing death on more than one occasion, he decided to share his secret to happiness ... music. Steve Hartman reports.

He buys harmonicas and makes "strum sticks" and visits schools teaching music and giving away 10s of thousands of instruments to the young.

(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/316NUWyF%2BTL._SY300_.jpg)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 15 November 2013, 16:54:42
Here is something from my step-brother, quite amazing in its precision.  Hope this one crosses the Atlantic.

http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=HW3QVLlK-kE#t=182
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Randi on 15 November 2013, 17:03:20
WOW!
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Dean on 15 November 2013, 19:54:01
Absolutely amazing!!!!!!!!!

Thanks for sharing.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Hanibal94 on 16 November 2013, 04:57:12
Quote
The uploader has not made this video available in your country

 :( :'(

Sorry to hear, Asterix. Try using this - it works for me:
https://proxtube.com/

Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Helen J on 16 November 2013, 07:43:54
Here is something from my step-brother, quite amazing in its precision.  Hope this one crosses the Atlantic.

http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=HW3QVLlK-kE#t=182

That is quite stunning - thanks Janet.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Dean on 16 November 2013, 08:32:55
A bit late for Remembrance/Veterans Day and it is WWII but a stunning impact of the cost of the war.  May they all Rest in Peace.

http://thefallen9000.info/
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: studentforever on 16 November 2013, 09:23:38
Perhaps the same concept could be expanded as a traveling demonstration outside appropriate parliaments.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 16 November 2013, 09:30:49
...and congresses.  In person when you can see the wide expanse covered, it must have been even more breath-taking.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Craig on 17 November 2013, 12:11:40
I just discovered that one of my great uncles had a close, if pecuniary, connection to the HMS Drake. His company was responsible for a considerable amount of the salvaging operations after the ship was wrecked on the outer coast of Rathlin Island in 1917. Furthermore, his steam laundry company cleaned the clothes of the crew when this ship visited Portrush N. Ireland prior to the war. (Presumably, it wasn't his steam laundry company that did the salvaging of the Drake). Another interesting note, "he was always interested in mechanical invention and possessed the second motor car owned in Portrush, in which he drove to the Dublin Exhibition of 1908".
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: jil on 17 November 2013, 12:33:59
 8) He sounds like an interesting chap.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Craig on 17 November 2013, 12:57:28
I wonder what the roads were like driving from Portrush (north coast of Ireland) to Dublin in 1908?
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Randi on 17 November 2013, 13:15:48
Neat!
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 17 November 2013, 14:00:35
I'm wanting to talk to friends - we currently have a large tornado on the ground, starting SW of Joliet, IL, currently SE of Frankfurt, IL, moving into the nearer SW suburbs and possibly the southern edge of City of Chicago.  Damage and casualties as yet unknown - all smart first responders in its path are taking shelter.  I personally am 15 miles north of any possible path, just getting drenching rain with possible hail, but this is scary.  We get these rarely, once every 5 to 10 years thanks to lake-effect weather, but that is too often when you are looking at one coming at you.

The bad news is, this is a well settled corner of the country with lots of people who don't get yearly practice in responding to tornado warnings.  I'm praying for them.

http://www.crh.noaa.gov/lot/
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Randi on 17 November 2013, 14:02:51
 :-*
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 17 November 2013, 14:21:07
The spotted tornado has now dissappated, but the cell is still severe enough to sustain the tornado warning - it's now approaching Gary, IN. 

No reports yet of casualties, thank goodness.  Lots of pictures from the area south of Joliett of destroyed homes.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 17 November 2013, 14:29:17
Something not so scary - The Bears-Ravens football game had started at noon, with 60,000-plus fans sitting outdoors watching.  The game has been delayed until sometime after 2pm (UTC-6).  They are currently indoors, packed into the concourses with all the food and beer vendors.  I'm betting the more good humored of them are turning it into quite a party.  :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Randi on 17 November 2013, 14:39:57
I bet the food and beer vendors are happy! ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Helen J on 17 November 2013, 15:07:25
Glad to hear that you're OK Janet and that the weather has passed you by.  I'd just heard about the weather system on the radio and was concerned about you in particular, as they mentioned Chicago.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 17 November 2013, 15:11:41
Still risk of full gale winds here, but the rest of it has moved out of our area - unbelievably, there is bright sun just now coming in my windows.  A very fast moving storm.

Some injuries, and in Coal City in particular, a swath of destroyed homes needing searching.  But we seem to have listened to the sirens and taken appropriate cover.  Nice.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: studentforever on 17 November 2013, 15:24:27
Glad you're safe.
Hope they find any injured soon and get them to hospital.

 :-* :-*
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 17 November 2013, 16:03:47
Casualties largely unknown as far as reporting officially is concerned, and only 1 confirmed death so far.  Most of the damage is around Peoria in Washington County, and no one there is taking the time to write reports.  But they are fearing injuries in the hundreds.  But some are messaging pictures to the Chicago TV stations.  Very scary skies, quickly gone.  Scarier damage.

(http://cdn.abclocal.go.com/images/wls/cms_exf_2007/news/local/media_2.jpg)

(http://cdn.abclocal.go.com/images/wls/cms_exf_2007/news/local/media_14.jpg)

(http://cdn.abclocal.go.com/images/wls/cms_exf_2007/news/local/media_13.jpg)

(http://cdn.abclocal.go.com/images/wls/cms_exf_2007/automation/images/9329185_600x338.jpg) Hail stone.

(http://cdn.abclocal.go.com/images/wls/cms_exf_2007/automation/images/9329178_600x338.jpg)

(http://cdn.abclocal.go.com/images/wls/cms_exf_2007/automation/images/9329159_600x338.jpg)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Dean on 17 November 2013, 16:27:17
Stay safe and keep you head down, Janet.

We will pray for those in the area and for the First Responders as they try to help.

Please keep us advised and if there is anything we can do besides pray!
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 17 November 2013, 16:43:13
Thanks, Dean, but the rescue teams are all being aided by professionals coming in from everywhere near this.  Long term, apparently a path about 600 yards (550 m.) wide by about 6 miles (9 km) long is gone, turned into match sticks, so a long period of rebuilding.

I'm still praying that most of those families were like the one I just saw interviewed.  The man's house was gone, but he'd been in his basement with his wife and children and mother-in-law, and none of them were hurt.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: camiller on 17 November 2013, 19:14:19
Glad you're safe, Janet.  My thoughts are with the people in Washington County.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 17 November 2013, 19:38:46
Latest casualty reports untangled some confusion.  The storm cell entered Illinois in the far south of the state in Washington County, resulting in at least 2 deaths and unknown injuries.  It passed thru the towns of Coal City, Diamond and Washington in central Illinois, dropping another tornado, resulting in at least 1 3 deaths and dozens of known injuries, and around 100 buildings destroyed which are still being searched for more survivors.  Altogether there are reports of tornado touchdowns in 11 counties across the state, still unknown if it was multiple tornadoes or one big one lifting and setting down again often.  There are pictures of high voltage lines being brought down live by the twister completely crumpling one of those tall towers and damaging the adjoining towers.

The storms are gone, and a cold front is passing thru with high winds still.  Tomorrow morning should dawn about 25F lower than this morning did, and a great deal calmer.  All around a difficult day.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Kathy on 17 November 2013, 20:19:32
I'm glad you are ok   :-* - there were 79 tornadoes spawned by that storm - I've don't think I've ever heard of such a storm this late in the year!
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 17 November 2013, 20:47:53
Our ABC station stayed on news all afternoon, and filled in little blank spaces with history.  In the last 50 years, Illinois has had 12 tornadoes including this as one, with 6 of them all falling on the 12th.  They said November twisters are rare but generally stronger than most seasonal storms.  Which is understandable - we are experiencing a 25 degree drop in temps this evening from the following cold front.  That is a lot of energy.

I'm just glad Chicago isn't in the middle of a tornado alley.  A bit selfish of me, but realistic.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Caro on 18 November 2013, 02:28:12
More wild weather; more tragic scenes.
Thinking of all affected in the US mid-west.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: AvastMH on 18 November 2013, 02:33:16
US mid-west - I hope you are getting calmer weather now! We are about to get a beating over here - strong winds, temps plummeting, snow on the way. Winter draw(er)s on..... :-\ ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Randi on 18 November 2013, 02:40:06
 ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Caro on 18 November 2013, 03:09:31
Check!  ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 18 November 2013, 03:31:36
Storm and then cold front gone, calm but cold tomorrow.  I'm having to ask if our Canadians and east coast members are all right - it left this area headed NE.  Current count is 6 dead, uncounted many injured.  And no sign of it lessening as it left us.

Now we rebuild and worry about others.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Craig on 18 November 2013, 05:36:52
I woke up to a strong wind blowing and it's still about +10 C. The forecast high today is only +3 C. There is no storm warning in effect here.

I am glad you are OK, Janet. That was a close call for you.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Steeleye on 18 November 2013, 05:48:01
Good to hear that you came through OK Janet, though others have been far less lucky and our thoughts are with them.

Is there anybody on the OW forum who has not had their share of unusual or out-of-season weather phenomena in the past year or so? Between dirty weather in the UK, unusually early fires down this way and unusually late tornados in the US, it seems that the abnormal is gradually becoming the new normal.

Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: propriome on 18 November 2013, 06:48:39
Glad to know Janet is ok.

I cannot believe someone still says climate is not changing (one can debate wether it's due to human activities or not - i'd say yes - but climate IS changing, and is doing it rapidly)...

Here in the south, we've started losing our mediterranean climate with warm summers, gentle winters and overall moderate temperatures years ago... actually summers are growing hotter, and winters are colder, each year. Floods from too much rain are more and more common in autumn.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Craig on 18 November 2013, 08:06:11
I agree, Matteo. And one can debate if humans are the cause but one would be up against some very strong evidence supporting the affirmative. And even if it turns out humans aren't the cause we can't afford to take the risk of doing nothing.

Here in Quebec we used to be able to count on cold winters for outdoor activities. It used to be that after Christmas the temperature would drop below zero and it wouldn't rise above zero for a couple of months. Now we get frequent thaws through January and February, much to the chagrin of those who plan events such as Winterlude  in Ottawa (across the river from us, in Ontario).
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Thursday Next on 18 November 2013, 09:00:46
Glad to hear you are OK, Janet.

I, too, find it hard to understand how any reasonable person can fail to be convinced by the evidence that the climate of our planet is changing.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: studentforever on 18 November 2013, 11:58:27
When I first moved to Scotland the leaves were off the trees at the front of my house by the end of October with maybe just a handful left fo the first week in November. One tree has lost about half its leaves, the other one has only just started to drop its leaves.  The trees respond to climate we should listen to their message.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Helen J on 18 November 2013, 12:04:32
Yes, things are just very strange now.  On a walk yesterday I was admiring the changing colour of the leaves on the trees, and also a number of roses which were still fully in bloom.  We have to listen to what nature is telling us!
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 18 November 2013, 12:10:21
One effect of having winds of 9-11 force coming thru in November, it no longer looks like autumn outside my windows.  Every single deciduous tree has been stripped winter bare of colored leaves.  Very noticeable against the pure bright blue cloudless sky.  Feels odd, jumping seasons in a day.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Caro on 18 November 2013, 12:14:09
Meanwhile, Mount Etna is blowing smoke rings ... http://www.theguardian.com/world/gallery/2013/nov/18/mount-etna-volcano-blows-rings-in-pictures
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Dean on 18 November 2013, 13:06:12
Here is a summary of the damage as it is currently known.

All those folks are in our thoughts and prayers.

http://entertainment.verizon.com/news/read/category/Us%20News/article/ap-statebystate_look_at_storm_tornadoes_in-ap-3
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 18 November 2013, 14:28:04
Thank you, all.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: AvastMH on 18 November 2013, 14:57:46
Yes, things are just very strange now.  On a walk yesterday I was admiring the changing colour of the leaves on the trees, and also a number of roses which were still fully in bloom.  We have to listen to what nature is telling us!

My vine is still going strong too!  :-\
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 18 November 2013, 15:09:47
Hi.
I survived the Drake Passage. Fortunatly it was only force 5.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Randi on 18 November 2013, 15:29:02
Hi Stuart!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drake_Passage
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 18 November 2013, 16:43:36
Glad you got there whole, Stuart.  :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 19 November 2013, 12:50:52
One of the better uses of Facebook - paper debris (most of it irreplaceable) is being found all over Illinois from the tornadoes, some of it 140 miles away from the home it was ripped from.  Counties are establishing collection sites, and the photos are being posted on Found items from the Washington Illinois and Diamond Illinois Tornadoes (https://www.facebook.com/pages/Found-items-from-the-Washington-Illinois-and-Diamond-Illinois-Tornadoes/625148424190038).

The National Weather Service has finished its ground survey of the storm, and concluded that 14 tornadoes touched ground across the full length of Illinois and SW Indiana, 2 of them EF-4 (over 190 mph, 300 kmh, winds).  The one that went thru the town of Washington was on the ground for 46 miles, most of an hour.  The other went thru the county of Washington, down state.  (Talk about names creating confusion!)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Randi on 19 November 2013, 13:50:56
Quote
One of the better uses of Facebook - paper debris (most of it irreplaceable) is being found all over Illinois from the tornadoes, some of it 140 miles away from the home it was ripped from.  Counties are establishing collection sites, and the photos are being posted on Found items from the Washington Illinois and Diamond Illinois Tornadoes.

Beautiful.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Dean on 19 November 2013, 20:20:35
A good news story out of all the tragedy in the Midwest USA:

http://www.weather.com/news/man-finds-missing-dog-illinois-tornado-rubble-20131118
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Helen J on 20 November 2013, 06:59:53
 :) :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: AvastMH on 20 November 2013, 11:27:31
On another tack I just got my zooniverse email for the week:
"The Zooniverse has passed a few notable milestones recently. Planet Four passed 4 million classifications, Planet Hunters passed 20 million"
20 million - gasp! that's HUGE.  :o
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Craig on 20 November 2013, 11:51:41
Star gazing is more popular than thermometer watching, alas.  :(
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Caro on 20 November 2013, 12:12:17
Dare I say that Old Weather is a labour-intensive project?  ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: AvastMH on 20 November 2013, 12:34:39
Well I say that, if we get our temperature readings right and help save this planet there will be less need to look around for another planet...hehehe!  ;) ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Craig on 20 November 2013, 15:26:19
Well said, Joan.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Helen J on 20 November 2013, 15:54:58
And it's labour well used - and educational too.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Maikel on 21 November 2013, 03:09:01
Only 20 million?
I myself must have entered that many characters. ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: AvastMH on 21 November 2013, 03:19:34
 ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Randi on 22 November 2013, 07:32:30
Hi Stuart!
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Caro on 22 November 2013, 09:03:57
Happy birthday Doctor Who.
Entertaining, if time-wasting, Google Doodle marks the occasion.  :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 22 November 2013, 09:20:10
You have to use the UK search engine, https://www.google.co.uk/, the US is showing the plain-old plain-old Google.  But the games you can play with the different doctors are endlessly frustrating.  :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 22 November 2013, 10:47:37
Hi Stuart!
Hi Randi.
Kayaked on to the Antarctic mainland. Sorry no log kept but do have pics.
Will post when I get back to my PC.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: jil on 22 November 2013, 11:21:28
8) Sounds exciting!

No log though - tut, tut  ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Hanibal94 on 22 November 2013, 11:43:05
That Dr Who minigame was fun. I got all 6 letters in 3:34 without losing any Doctors.
I dare anyone to beat me.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Caro on 22 November 2013, 11:57:15
Sadly, many Doctors have been exterminated in my attempts to spell out Google.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 22 November 2013, 13:30:41
It requires too much hand-eye coordination for me, I quit after finally getting the G. :P
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Randi on 22 November 2013, 13:40:54
Coordination? ::) :o :'(
Didn't even try :P
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: AvastMH on 22 November 2013, 14:33:19
That Dr Who minigame was fun. I got all 6 letters in 3:34 without losing any Doctors.
I dare anyone to beat me.

Oh my that's awesome...in 20 odd minutes I got several sets of Drs exterminated and deleted - I couldn't even work out how to get him back in his tardis on the second level...never mind  - he'll be on the other side of some other universe laughing at my efforts!

I feel an insane pleasure in being able to say - I watched the very first episode...from the sofa. I watched the second episode from behind the sofa. And not long after that a dalek moved into my wardrobe.  :o
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Post by: Janet Jaguar on 22 November 2013, 15:33:17
Dr. Who didn't make it across the pond until I was an adult - that somewhat dilutes the effect.  :)
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Post by: asterix135 on 22 November 2013, 16:24:12
That Dr Who minigame was fun. I got all 6 letters in 3:34 without losing any Doctors.
I dare anyone to beat me.

Beat me
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Post by: Pommy Stuart on 22 November 2013, 18:55:07
8) Sounds exciting!

No log though - tut, tut  ;)
I actually have a short ver of the ships log but it is easier to post from my PC.


Ok then, kayaked onto Antarctica at,
Brown Bluff, Antartic Sound.
63 30.40S, 53 53.60W
Vis good
Overcast
Wind w 3
Temp 0

Polar dipped at
Whalers Bay, Deception Island
62 58.90S, 60 33.70 W
Vis Mod
Overcast
Snow squall
Wind WSW 5
Temp 2
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Post by: Janet Jaguar on 22 November 2013, 19:38:22
Very clear weather readings, we'll be able to run a Journey Plot on you.  :)
Are those temps in Fahrenheit?  If so, I must ask if you really shouldn't have waited until later in summer. ::)

(http://images.clipartof.com/thumbnails/33821-Clipart-Illustration-Of-A-Cold-Penguin-Mascot-Cartoon-Character-In-A-Hat-And-Scarf-Shivering-And-Surrounded-By-Blocks-Of-Ice.jpg)
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Post by: Hanibal94 on 23 November 2013, 02:15:14
It appears I won the Dr Who game with 3:34, no Doctors lost.
asterix135 comes in second, with 4:02 and no Doctors lost.
Guess that's how it is when you're 19 and have awesome hand-eye coordination, honed by years of video gaming.
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Post by: Randi on 23 November 2013, 06:18:38
(http://www.southill.dorset.sch.uk/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/trophy.jpg)
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Post by: Pommy Stuart on 23 November 2013, 06:54:36
Degrees C.
Not that silly to swim in Water 0F, I do have to say they were both very short dips. Forgot to turn camera on to record the first one   :-[

Well done Hanibal, but I bet some of could have given you a run for your money when Dr Who first came out.  ;D.
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Post by: studentforever on 23 November 2013, 07:00:57
More to the point we might have given Hanibal's Dad a run for his money!
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Post by: Pommy Stuart on 23 November 2013, 07:08:17
%^)
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Post by: Hanibal94 on 23 November 2013, 10:21:47
More to the point we might have given Hanibal's Dad a run for his money!

I wouldn't be so sure. My dad does have a few surprises in him.
He and I once saw a still-working copy of Pong at the Science Museum in London.
Thinking it would be easy, I challenged him to a match.
Despite not having played it for over 30 years, he beat me 15 - 1.
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Post by: studentforever on 23 November 2013, 12:01:30
Just goes to show that you can't keep the 'oldies' down.
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Post by: Janet Jaguar on 23 November 2013, 13:21:50
Less embarrassing than when my father, my brother and I played pool with my grandfather (a very long time ago.)  According to my grandmother, none of my family every hung out in pool halls (true for the two younger generations) so when we had an idle hour in the college student center, we decided to play a game just for fun that was likely to last a while.  My grandfather was legally blind, he could see general shapes but we had to make pointing gestures for him to exactly locate the balls he was interested in.

He wiped the floor with all 3 of us, beating us so badly we couldn't stop laughing at ourselves.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Craig on 24 November 2013, 06:29:04
Quite a story, Janet, but at least he didn't beat you with his hands tied behind his back.  ;D

Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 24 November 2013, 06:49:14
He was a remarkable man.  Told me once he felt sorry for my generation, because we would never experience awesome change like he had.  I asked what he meant, and he said that as a child he saw a world where horses were the main transportation in Chicago, and then lived to see a man walk on the moon.  He was right, I'll see anything even close to that.

Rest in Peace, Grandpa, I still miss you.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Randi on 24 November 2013, 07:35:28
Science News:
Deep network
Real-time monitoring of the seafloor reveals unexpected links (https://www.sciencenews.org/article/deep-network)

Quote
Thomsen and his colleagues have discovered that changes in ocean currents triggered by storms raging on the sea surface can alter the release of gas from the hydrate mounds. The team reported last year in Geophysical Research Letters that as currents scouring the seafloor increase in intensity, more methane seeps out of the mounds. So while it may take decades for warming at the sea surface to change deep-sea temperatures, alterations in wind-driven events may have more immediate effects. NEPTUNE?s continuous monitoring allowed Thomsen?s team to make the first connections between hydrate release and climate-induced changes hundreds of meters above.

Quote
When the acoustic data are paired with wind measurements from buoys at the surface, Rona?s team can correlate changes in the plumes? activity with events happening above. ?The plumes bend and sway with the wind and tides,? Rona says. ?Most people think of tides as something that rise and fall on the beach, but it actually affects the deepest ocean, and we?re watching it.?
Rona?s team reported in the July Geochemistry, Geophysics, Geosystems that wind-driven waves on the ocean?s surface take 13 days to propagate to the vents 2,000 meters below. Their wavelengths stretch as they travel to the bottom, a change the team calls a ?blue-shift.? As changes in climate affect storms and ocean currents, Rona expects the activity of the plumes to change as well. These alterations could have an impact on the chemistry, and therefore life, in the ocean and on the rest of the planet.

Ocean Networks Canada (http://www.oceannetworks.ca/)
Interactive Oceans - University of Washington (http://www.interactiveoceans.washington.edu/)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: studentforever on 24 November 2013, 08:03:15
Oh dear. Out of sight, out of mind indeed.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Craig on 24 November 2013, 08:04:46
He was a remarkable man.  Told me once he felt sorry for my generation, because we would never experience awesome change like he had.  I asked what he meant, and he said that as a child he saw a world where horses were the main transportation in Chicago, and then lived to see a man walk on the moon.  He was right, I'll see anything even close to that.

Rest in Peace, Grandpa, I still miss you.

Randi's post is an appropriate comment on yours, Janet. We are seeing something that is unique in human history - the effects of human-caused climate change. This is awesome change of another kind.  :(
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 24 November 2013, 10:13:27
Somehow, I'd rather trade with Grandpa, this really, really doesn't sound like fun. :(
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Kathy on 27 November 2013, 11:44:25
Not the sea, but still WWI -

some of them are graphic -

http://lightbox.time.com/2013/11/11/rare-color-photographs-from-the-trenches-of-world-war-i/?iid=lb-gal-viewagn#1 (http://lightbox.time.com/2013/11/11/rare-color-photographs-from-the-trenches-of-world-war-i/?iid=lb-gal-viewagn#1)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Hanibal94 on 27 November 2013, 13:58:17
Good evening y'all.

Here, (http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=iurrkqsZzqY) here (http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=N1jbEvhFzQM) and here (http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=QX-xToQI34I) are three doses of dopamine. Enjoy!
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Post by: Randi on 27 November 2013, 14:59:05
Beautiful!
Sniff.
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Post by: AvastMH on 27 November 2013, 17:35:25
Good evening y'all.

Here, (http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=iurrkqsZzqY) here (http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=N1jbEvhFzQM) and here (http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=QX-xToQI34I) are three doses of dopamine. Enjoy!

awesome- just awesome. thank you soooo much Hanibal. I'm glad to have these to spread around...the more we see them, the more they will be the norm. :) :-*
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 27 November 2013, 17:45:21
Things we can be thankful to give as well as get.  Thanks, Hanibal.  :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Caro on 28 November 2013, 04:59:19
Hello world and happy Thanksgiving, USA.  :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 28 November 2013, 09:14:44
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-9dOeTNVaREI/Ucc06_AqMaI/AAAAAAAAAm8/PvyMZPW-0RI/w648-h357-no/All_20111123131105_Happy+Thanksgiving%2521_219.jpg)
Happy Thanksgiving, USA

(http://jmclblog.files.wordpress.com/2010/11/hanukkah.jpg)
Happy Hanukkah, World
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Post by: Dean on 28 November 2013, 10:52:27
For all of the above and so much more we are truly Thankful!!

Happy Thanksgiving, USA - Happy Hanukkah - Enjoy the day ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: AvastMH on 28 November 2013, 13:04:43
For all of the above and so much more we are truly Thankful!!

Happy Thanksgiving, USA - Happy Hanukkah - Enjoy the day ;D

I whole-heartedly second that Dean! ;D ;D
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Post by: propriome on 28 November 2013, 13:22:16
Happy Thanksgiving!  :D
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Randi on 28 November 2013, 17:39:47
"Giant prehistoric toilet unearthed" (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-25126333)
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Post by: Pommy Stuart on 29 November 2013, 01:04:48
69S, 120W from 30000ft
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 29 November 2013, 02:04:48
lots of broken ice.  Beautiful.  :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: AvastMH on 29 November 2013, 02:57:54
That's a significant find - you can't poo-poo science like that  ;D ;D ;D
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Post by: Randi on 29 November 2013, 03:00:08
 ::) ;D
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Post by: Caro on 29 November 2013, 03:04:40
 ::) :P

Great pic, Stuart.

Morning all.
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Post by: jil on 29 November 2013, 04:58:57
 8) Stuart
 ::) Joan
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Craig on 29 November 2013, 06:21:59
That's a significant find - you can't poo-poo science like that  ;D ;D ;D

Tony Abbot poo poo'd climate change but there it is to behold   ;D

Nice picture, Stuart.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: asterix135 on 29 November 2013, 14:55:56
It's amazing how things don't change:

Patterson log, 26 November, 1915 (http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USCS%20Patterson/Book%2019/IMG_6947_1.jpg)

Quote
Picked up 5 Bassnett tubes and 1000 fms piano wire at a 50% discount at Black Friday sales in Seattle

Hope all the Americans are enjoying shopping today!
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Randi on 29 November 2013, 16:00:15
 ;D

What I have seen on TV is not my idea of enjoyable ::)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 29 November 2013, 16:08:16
"Giant prehistoric toilet unearthed" (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-25126333)
sidebar story from above.

Penguin poo seen from space

Well this is my foot and
Penguin poo seen from above.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Randi on 29 November 2013, 16:24:13
 :P
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 29 November 2013, 19:58:45
:P
I have reduced the pic to 250k, how do I reduce it in size to display fully on the screen?
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Post by: Janet Jaguar on 29 November 2013, 20:10:20
When you click the image icon above, modify the the initial part ( [img] ) to include width in pixels  [img width=400] - choose your own desired width.

Note that anyone who clicks on the pic will cause it to enlarge to real size, click again and it will shrink back.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 29 November 2013, 20:42:07
It's amazing how things don't change:

Patterson log, 26 November, 1915 (http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USCS%20Patterson/Book%2019/IMG_6947_1.jpg)

Quote
Picked up 5 Bassnett tubes and 1000 fms piano wire at a 50% discount at Black Friday sales in Seattle

Hope all the Americans are enjoying shopping today!

Are all (most) misc pages like that one (short)?
If so I might move over, just kidding.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 29 November 2013, 20:54:36
That's a significant find - you can't poo-poo science like that  ;D ;D ;D

Tony Abbot poo poo'd climate change but there it is to behold   ;D

Nice picture, Stuart.

My entire life, I've successfully avoided even walking thru a shopping district on black Friday.  That's for extroverts who get energized by being crushed in a crowd.  I wish the merchants well, most especially those who didn't disrupt their employees' Thanksgiving by opening up Thursday night. ::)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 29 November 2013, 20:59:20

Happy Birthday, Caro!!

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-C7mPpbARCpY/UplE7lmUg0I/AAAAAAAACj8/Qp2--spgsTM/w449-h483-no/Happy+Birthday.GIF)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Randi on 30 November 2013, 01:59:28
Happy Birthday Caro!

 :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-*
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Randi on 30 November 2013, 02:07:59
:P
I have reduced the pic to 250k, how do I reduce it in size to display fully on the screen?

I think that you have to change the dimensions of the picture that you attach :-\
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Post by: Hanibal94 on 30 November 2013, 02:46:52
Happy Birthday indeed, Caro!

As your present, I got a short but awesome Star Wars cartoon (http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=cF3ocZu4cZo).
Enjoy!
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Randi on 30 November 2013, 02:59:53
There you go, Caro, a little exercise to warm up those stiff muscles ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Maikel on 30 November 2013, 03:03:58
Happy birthday Caro.

I'm sure your not as old as the Kingdom of the Netherlands, which starts celebrating it's 200th birthday today. :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: studentforever on 30 November 2013, 03:17:56
Happy birthday Caro - tot of rum maybe
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Caro on 30 November 2013, 04:09:25
Hello everybody. Thank you for the birthday wishes, Janet, Randi, Hanibal, Maikel and Rosemary.  :-*
I'm not quite 200 years old but I'm working on it.
And strangely enough, I got three light sabres for my birthday ... oh no, they're stylus pens.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Helen J on 30 November 2013, 05:24:29
Happy birthday Caro - splice the mainbrace and dress the ship overall!
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: AvastMH on 30 November 2013, 06:46:06
Happy birthday Caro.

I'm sure your not as old as the Kingdom of the Netherlands, which starts celebrating it's 200th birthday today. :)

AND today is St Andrew's Day! So for all the Dutch, Scots, AND most especially your birthday Caro - 'lang may your lums wreak!'
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Craig on 30 November 2013, 07:16:25
Happy Birthday, Caro!

Here's a harrowing but heartwarming story about a dog that accompanied John Muir (American naturalist and founder of the Sierra Club) on an excursion on a glacier during one of his Arctic explorations. In the book containing Muir's writings, the story is described as "one of the noblest dog stories in the English language". (I couldn't find any harrowing but heartwarming stories about cats for you  ;D)

http://www.sierraclub.org/john_muir_exhibit/writings/stickeen/the_story_of_a_dog.aspx

Muir's writings about the Arctic in the late 1800s are a must read for anyone transcribing our ships that visited the Arctic at that time.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Kathy on 30 November 2013, 08:23:20
HAPPY BIRTHDAY, CARO

Let's all give Caro her due,
And say, "Happy Birthday to you!"
May your troubles be few,
And all your wishes come true!
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Randi on 30 November 2013, 09:01:47
Very nice!
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: AvastMH on 30 November 2013, 09:35:17
Happy Birthday, Caro!

Here's a harrowing but heartwarming story about a dog that accompanied John Muir (American naturalist and founder of the Sierra Club) on an excursion on a glacier during one of his Arctic explorations. In the book containing Muir's writings, the story is described as "one of the noblest dog stories in the English language". (I couldn't find any harrowing but heartwarming stories about cats for you  ;D)

http://www.sierraclub.org/john_muir_exhibit/writings/stickeen/the_story_of_a_dog.aspx

Muir's writings about the Arctic in the late 1800s are a must read for anyone transcribing our ships that visited the Arctic at that time.

I just watched A Muppet Christmas Carol  :'(, then read Stickeen's story  :'(. Well - that did for another box of hankies, Craig!  But brilliantly heart-warming though.  :-* :)  (Well done Messrs Dickens and Muir)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Caro on 30 November 2013, 10:58:23
Thank you also, Helen, Joan, Craig and poet-in-residence, Kathy.  :-*
I haven't read Stickeen's story yet but I will, with a box of tissues handy. I ♥ dogs, especially tough little ones.

Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: propriome on 30 November 2013, 14:01:37
Happy birthday Caro!! (sorry for being so late)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Caro on 30 November 2013, 14:58:29
Grazie, Matteo. :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 30 November 2013, 20:39:18
The Zooniverse Advent Calendar (https://www.zooniverse.org/advent) is up.

(http://zooniverseblog.files.wordpress.com/2013/11/galaxy_from_galaxies_new.jpg)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Caro on 01 December 2013, 04:04:41
Pretty merging galaxies of galaxies!
Good morning world and hello December.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Hanibal94 on 01 December 2013, 04:09:24
Hello December!
Just make sure to behave - or else:


(http://s3.amazonaws.com/theoatmeal-img/horrible/card_santa_ready.jpg)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: AvastMH on 01 December 2013, 09:01:05
Ummmmmm..... :-\
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: AvastMH on 01 December 2013, 09:30:59
A bit early but:
I saw three ships come sailing by, come sailing by, come sailing by, I saw three ships come sailing by on Christmas Day in the morning...

(http://imageshack.us/a/img201/636/ykff.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/a/img716/8899/nwru.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/a/img850/6448/kmox.jpg)

 
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Craig on 01 December 2013, 10:18:08
Wonderful, Joan - and it is December after all.  ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Kevin on 01 December 2013, 10:28:46
I think I'm back now...
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Craig on 01 December 2013, 10:39:59
Good to hear from you, Kevin. Welcome back! I hope your trip was successful.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 01 December 2013, 10:44:44
Welcome back, Kevin.  :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Dean on 01 December 2013, 13:16:13
Caro:

   Happy Birthday to you,
   Happy Birthday to you,
   Happy Birthday dear Caaaaaaaaaaarrrrrrrrrrrrrrrooooooooooooooooooooooooo,
   Happy Birthday to you!

Hope it's a happy one and that you get lots of neat presents!

Hope also you get to share with family!

 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Thursday Next on 01 December 2013, 14:31:16
Belated Happy Birthday, Caro!
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Caro on 01 December 2013, 16:36:36
Welcome back, Kevin, and thank you kindly, Dean and Su.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Kathy on 02 December 2013, 13:34:31
A couple of articles folks might be interested in -

http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/news/pressreleases/2013/november/ancient-naval-battle-site-relics-of-war.aspx (http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/news/pressreleases/2013/november/ancient-naval-battle-site-relics-of-war.aspx)
and
http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/american_military_history/2013/11/the_battle_of_gallipoli_winston_churchill_mustafa_kemal_and_the_battle_that.html (http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/american_military_history/2013/11/the_battle_of_gallipoli_winston_churchill_mustafa_kemal_and_the_battle_that.html)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Dean on 02 December 2013, 15:45:56
Kathy:

Thanks for the Gallipoli link!  I'll read it very carefully!

I'm 'there' on ARK ROYAL! Right now it's October 1916 and I've been there several months. It will be good research!

Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Thursday Next on 03 December 2013, 15:27:12
What has Grumpy Cat got to do with Mars? (see Advent Calendar)  ???  Or is this just gratuitous use of a cat picture?!
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Hanibal94 on 03 December 2013, 15:39:43
I believe it is an example of the pre-Internet generation trying (and failing) to look cool by using memes.
But I think it just makes you look like a clueless copycat.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: asterix135 on 03 December 2013, 16:19:44
(http://troll.me/images/all-the-things-psycho/use-all-the-memes.jpg)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 03 December 2013, 16:42:22
A question from the afore mentioned pre-Internet generation:
What in the world is a "meme" and how is it pronounced?
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: propriome on 03 December 2013, 17:10:28
Hi Janet,

It's more or less what could be called a cliche'... two pretty detailed links on the subject (wiki):
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meme (general)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_meme (particularly on internet and social networks)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Randi on 03 December 2013, 17:12:58
And for pronunciation: http://www.thefreedictionary.com/meme
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 03 December 2013, 17:23:12
Thank you.  A new name for something very old.  :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Craig on 03 December 2013, 17:25:12
It was coined by biologist Richard Dawkins. For him, it is sort of a cultural gene. An idea can be a meme. A meme can replicate and produce new ideas which are subject to selection. It is not strictly a Darwinian process but there is a similarity.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 03 December 2013, 17:33:30
I know that, it's fun to watch how some of these ideas evolve.  Young people telling me a meme was created by something that happened 10 years or more after I learned to use it for somewhere else entirely.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: AvastMH on 04 December 2013, 02:58:52
Still don't get the grumpy cat....or any of day 3.  :-\
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Caro on 04 December 2013, 03:15:14
Hello Grumpy Cat fans and others.

How about this for a definition of an internet meme?
An image, video, piece of text, etc., typically humorous in nature, that is copied and spread rapidly by Internet users, often with slight variations.

The 'slight variations' is the thing here. These are popular memes that have been adapted for Planet Four's Mars exploration project.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Caro on 04 December 2013, 11:57:37
It's not a ship, strictly speaking, but it sure is big.  :o
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-25213845
Got to love those tugs.  :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: studentforever on 04 December 2013, 12:21:01
Some paintings of submarines through the 20th century with explanatory notes.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/arts/yourpaintings/mypaintings/Royal-Navy-Submarine/my-collection#/0
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 04 December 2013, 14:58:14
Both very interesting reading.  Thanks.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 04 December 2013, 19:07:26
It's not a ship, strictly speaking, but it sure is big.  :o
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-25213845
Got to love those tugs.  :)

Did you get the adv for Chevron before the Shell video, or are the ads random?
I bet shell would have been pleased with that.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Maikel on 05 December 2013, 02:45:43
Beautiful Antarctic image on NASA Earth Observatory (http://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/) today. :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: studentforever on 05 December 2013, 03:37:19
For any kindle fans (you can get a free app on most computers) you can get Massie's 'Castle's of Steel' for 99p, today only.

I haven't had chance to look at it but it billed as an account of the war at sea in WW1 and the reviews are good.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Caro on 05 December 2013, 03:44:38
Did you get the adv for Chevron before the Shell video, or are the ads random?
I bet shell would have been pleased with that.

No ads where I am.

Morning all.
Thanks for the links, Rosemary and Maikel. Interesting stuff!
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 05 December 2013, 12:45:00
No ads by me either - does having Chrome Ad Blocker matter here?

Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Thursday Next on 05 December 2013, 15:34:17
For any kindle fans (you can get a free app on most computers) you can get Massie's 'Castle's of Steel' for 99p, today only.

I haven't had chance to look at it but it billed as an account of the war at sea in WW1 and the reviews are good.

Thanks for that - definitely a bargain not to be missed!
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 05 December 2013, 16:10:16
No ads by me either - does having Chrome Ad Blocker matter here?
It was a short ad which started when I started the video.
Did you notice the ship/barge? is coming down under when finished?

Massie's 'Castle's of Steel' just cost me $9.39 for kobo on my nextbook.
It looks like it should be worth it.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Caro on 05 December 2013, 16:23:02
Yes, the 'ship' will be sited in the Browse Basin (which I had to look up), north of Broome.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: AvastMH on 05 December 2013, 17:05:34
A great spirit has left this world. Nelson Mandela has passed away. :'( :'( :'(
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: studentforever on 05 December 2013, 17:11:28
I've spent a few holidays in S Africa in the last years. I hope so much that the country maintains his legacy of peace and reconciliation as a beacon of hope for Africa.

RIP Nelson Mandela
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Helen J on 05 December 2013, 17:13:59
Amen to that - may he rest in peace and rise in glory.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: AvastMH on 05 December 2013, 17:17:42
I've spent a few holidays in S Africa in the last years. I hope so much that the country maintains his legacy of peace and reconciliation as a beacon of hope for Africa.

RIP Nelson Mandela

As Helenj said - Amen to that
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 05 December 2013, 17:23:46
Yes.  Rest in Peace, Nelson Mandela.  May we remember and celebrate the great change he worked for, and the peace he helped maintain.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Helen J on 05 December 2013, 17:37:39
And also remember the many people, especially on the east coast of England, who have already been flooded or who are expecting the tidal surge tonight to flood their homes.  This is fierce weather ....
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: studentforever on 05 December 2013, 17:45:33
Also the people in North Wales, facing flooding yet again in places like Rhyl.  I faced a house which was damaged by clean water from a burst pipe and I can't imagine what the results of flood water must be like.  Stay safe and strong.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: AvastMH on 05 December 2013, 18:07:43
Amen to that too - the coasts must be very nervous tonight. Special thoughts for them and the rescue services.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Hanibal94 on 06 December 2013, 01:18:31
RIP Nelson Mandela. Blessed forever be your name.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Steeleye on 06 December 2013, 02:27:53
For any kindle fans (you can get a free app on most computers) you can get Massie's 'Castle's of Steel' for 99p, today only.

I haven't had chance to look at it but it billed as an account of the war at sea in WW1 and the reviews are good.

Thanks for that - definitely a bargain not to be missed!

'Castles of Steel' would be one of the best half-dozen non-fiction books that I have read and is not to be missed.  I would also strongly recommend Massie's other major work, 'Dreadnought', which mainly covers the period from the formation of Germany until the night that war was declared.  It is also a wonderful account of the politics and the naval arms race. A lot of detail in both books, but his writing style never left me bored.

Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: AvastMH on 06 December 2013, 05:24:40
RIP Nelson Mandela. Blessed forever be your name.
He certainly lived by your mantra, Hanibal:  Better to do it, than live with the fear of it.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Hanibal94 on 06 December 2013, 06:45:49
RIP Nelson Mandela. Blessed forever be your name.
He certainly lived by your mantra, Hanibal:  Better to do it, than live with the fear of it.

Right you are, Joan. It is a great mantra.
I got it from an awesome Fantasy trilogy called The First Law, one of the best I read. It's like a fun size version of A Song of Ice and Fire.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 06 December 2013, 23:29:57
How are our European folk fairing in this terrible storm?  Are you all safe?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-25243460
http://uk.reuters.com/article/2013/12/07/uk-europe-storm-idUKBRE9B40II20131207
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Randi on 07 December 2013, 03:43:38
It's not a ship, strictly speaking, but it sure is big.  :o
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-25213845
Got to love those tugs.  :)

Did you get the adv for Chevron before the Shell video, or are the ads random?
I bet shell would have been pleased with that.

Yes - I get the Chevron ad!
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: studentforever on 07 December 2013, 03:44:20
I'm over on the West of Scotland and it wasn't too bad here.  They closed the railways and some of the high bridges over the morning (the railways have overhead electric cables and there is always the risk of fallen trees).  The East coast got battered and some coastal areas of North Wales (Rhyl) and the Wirral were flooded.  Some power lines went down but only 2 deaths reported so under the circumstances the country coped well.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Helen J on 07 December 2013, 07:22:15
Thanks, Janet - I was in London and then back in Oxfordshire so wasn't affected.  I had to go to a funeral in Leicester yesterday which fortunately is well inland too, and I think everyone made it OK.  The flood defences stood up well, though a few houses very near the coast simply collapsed into the sea, so there were some serious losses, and a good bit of flooding to clear up.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Kevin on 07 December 2013, 09:55:33
I heard this story on NPR yesterday. Its a StoryCorps interview with the sole survivor of the wreck of the bulk carrier Daniel J Morrell in Nov. 1966 in Lake Superior. Intense - especially the first moments of the interview when he describes when the ship broke in half.

http://cdn.storycorps.org/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/hale.mp3
http://storycorps.org/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SS_Daniel_J._Morrell
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 07 December 2013, 10:06:24
I know the Great Lakes are not oceans, in many ways.  But they are indeed large and dangerous bodies of water.  Thanks for the story, Kevin.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Caro on 08 December 2013, 02:56:27
http://blog.zooniverse.org/2013/12/08/cats-love-the-zooniverse/

<--------- True.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: camiller on 08 December 2013, 12:48:31
 ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Hanibal94 on 10 December 2013, 13:26:56
Good evening OW.

Here (http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=G9EJaDneTkQ) is a little something to get you in the holiday spirit.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 10 December 2013, 14:01:08
This made the national news last night from the The National Air and Space Museum (http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=LT62VoH62hw).  Apparently, flash mobs are even infiltrating gov't. :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 10 December 2013, 14:54:01
Is this a natural prediction of a cold winter?  We did hit -1F (-19C) at OHare last night.

Once-elusive snowy owls spotted in Chicago (http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/ct-snowy-owl-return-met-1210-20131210,0,4437955.story)
Reasons for Arctic birds' large migration south uncertain
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Helen J on 10 December 2013, 15:06:28
Now that comes close to being something desirable coming out of climate change!  Aren't they spectacular birds?
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 10 December 2013, 15:21:22
Something I never thought to see in Monroe Harbor, which is very urban.  Apparently our lakefront parks house enough wildlife to welcome these hunters.  Very beautiful.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Dean on 10 December 2013, 16:15:23
For any kindle fans (you can get a free app on most computers) you can get Massie's 'Castle's of Steel' for 99p, today only.

I haven't had chance to look at it but it billed as an account of the war at sea in WW1 and the reviews are good.

Thanks for that - definitely a bargain not to be missed!

'Castles of Steel' would be one of the best half-dozen non-fiction books that I have read and is not to be missed.  I would also strongly recommend Massie's other major work, 'Dreadnought', which mainly covers the period from the formation of Germany until the night that war was declared.  It is also a wonderful account of the politics and the naval arms race. A lot of detail in both books, but his writing style never left me bored.

Stopped at our local Library and picked up both books! Got a hernia lifting them AND it's a good thing I own a truck! I'll start on the reading tonight!

Thanks, Howard. It will give me something to do on cold nights when I'm too tired to transcribe ARK Royal! ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Randi on 10 December 2013, 17:05:41
Coldest spot on Earth identified by satellite (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-25287806)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Craig on 10 December 2013, 20:14:33
I'll keep that spot in mind (to avoid) when planning my next vacation  ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: AvastMH on 11 December 2013, 02:36:28
'Coldest spot on Earth identified by satellite'...only because it could not see my bathroom floor this morning :(
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Randi on 11 December 2013, 02:46:30
 ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Caro on 11 December 2013, 03:00:02
Morning all. Chilly here this morning, but not that chilly.
More news from the Southern Ocean and Antarctica: http://www.theguardian.com/science/antarctica-live/2013/dec/10/antarctica-live-fishing-plastic-southern-ocean

Oh yeah. In this part of the world, today is 11/12/13.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Randi on 11 December 2013, 06:24:39
 ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Hanibal94 on 11 December 2013, 11:44:52
Good evening OW.

Anybody up for real life Mario Kart? (http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=tJel8dJuPH8)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Caro on 11 December 2013, 11:49:48
No. But thanks for asking.  :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 11 December 2013, 15:39:59
Good evening OW.

Anybody up for real life Mario Kart? (http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=tJel8dJuPH8)

I would be in that.
I like the rope pull back, it beats walking.
Maybe for my 66th B/day.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Dean on 12 December 2013, 12:09:34
Good evening OW.

Anybody up for real life Mario Kart? (http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=tJel8dJuPH8)

I would be in that.
I like the rope pull back, it beats walking.
Maybe for my 66th B/day.

I'll join you!! ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Hanibal94 on 13 December 2013, 08:09:12
In today's Weird News: James Bond drinks too much. (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-25349738)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: studentforever on 16 December 2013, 05:31:55
One bit of good (highly qualified) news on arctic ice.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-25383373
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Caro on 16 December 2013, 06:34:17
Highly qualified, yes, but good news all the same.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Craig on 16 December 2013, 10:03:38
It's remarkable that this satellite can detect ice thickness.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Kathy on 16 December 2013, 13:43:28
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10152431288458294&set=a.10150380501333294.428217.779183293&type=1&theater

I have a feeling this little guy speaks with an English accent - I wonder if he? she? will make it home -
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Helen J on 16 December 2013, 13:59:27
Or possibly a Scottish one - let's hope so! 
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 16 December 2013, 14:06:39
No point in sharing him on my side of the pond.  I hope he gets back to his young owner for Christmas, he looks like he has enjoyed some hard loving.  :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Randi on 16 December 2013, 14:42:40
Hi szukacz!
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: szukacz on 17 December 2013, 03:59:14
Hi all.
I am a faithful reader of the forum, but I have little time to write.
I had to limit the number of computers for BOINC, I had to give it back. : (
The weather is a dream for walks sunny, 7C, SW 1 ​​:)
Best regards 4all
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Caro on 17 December 2013, 04:08:50
Great to see you, szukacz.
Pozdrowienia sezonu. (I hope that makes sense. ;))
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: szukacz on 17 December 2013, 04:12:17
Oooo, I see that you already have on your head cap :)  :D
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 17 December 2013, 05:31:10
szukacz, Hi!!!  Nice to see you still around. ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Randi on 17 December 2013, 13:21:47
Zebra stripes mystery 'explained' (http://www.bbc.co.uk/nature/25260311)
Quote
The results also might help us understand how similar camouflage might function in man-made situations, such as the large-scale 'dazzle' camouflage patterns used on battleships."


Camouflage painting - Dazzle camouflage, also known as razzle dazzle or dazzle painting, was a military camouflage paint scheme used on ships, extensively during World War I and to a lesser extent in World War II. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dazzle_camouflage [Janet Jaguar]
[AND]
False bow-waves seem to have been one of the more common anti-submarine subterfuges employed over the years.  On the http://www.worldnavalships.com/monitors.htm website there is an amusing photo of HMS Medusa (ex-M29), a monitor with a top-speed of 10 knots when new, with a 'bow-wave' that gives the impression that she's doing 15-20! [Steeleye]
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Thursday Next on 17 December 2013, 15:10:02
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10152431288458294&set=a.10150380501333294.428217.779183293&type=1&theater

I have a feeling this little guy speaks with an English accent - I wonder if he? she? will make it home -

I heard on the radio yesterday evening that the heartbroken little girl who owns this bear was indeed traced through the Facebook campaign and they have been reunited.  ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: propriome on 17 December 2013, 15:20:40
Here's a nice picture of the Motor Torpedo Boat PT-139 in 1942 (nicknamed "Zebra", she was stationed at the Motor Torpedo Boat Training Center in Melville, RI - Unalga crossed her from time to time in 1943 and 1944) :)

http://www.navsource.org/archives/12/120513902.jpg
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 17 December 2013, 15:26:50
talk about crazy zebra stripes!!!

we are having some security problems with images I think - I had to open that pic in a separate tab to see it.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: propriome on 17 December 2013, 15:42:46
??? Weird... I've no problem with the image here (Firefox 26 on WinXP), it's hosted on navsource, reachable from PT-139 page: http://www.navsource.org/archives/12/05139.htm

Nevermid... i've just refreshed the page and it has disappeared... maybe the width/height attributes for the img bbcode tag has something to do with that... will try a couple of edits.

Edit: Nothing to do (in a couple of words, images from navsource.org are served in an unusual manner, so there are problems in using them directly inside an img tag)... i've just transformed the original img to a link ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Randi on 17 December 2013, 16:02:14
I don't see it either in your original post - we have had that sort of problem before :P

It comes up fine when I click on the link: http://www.navsource.org/archives/12/120513902.jpg

WOW!!!



Now I can see it in your original post ::) ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: studentforever on 17 December 2013, 16:07:05
Oh Boy!  The thought of using a stereoscopic range finder on that makes my eyes hurt.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Caro on 18 December 2013, 03:43:11
Good morning all.

Love the pic, Matteo.

Here's one from The Guardian:

Journalists Alok Jha and Laurence Topham have landed in Antarctica with the 2013 Australasian Antarctic Expedition


(http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/pictures/2013/12/17/1387303308020/10cccbab-9162-4bfb-9e1a-1f4c76ed1815-620x372.jpeg)

An Adelie penguin observes expedition leaders Greg Mortimer and Chris Fogwill as they get ready for their initial reconnaissance of Commonwealth Bay by quad bike.
Photograph: Laurence Topham/Guardian
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Steeleye on 18 December 2013, 07:37:59
Aggressive little beasties, the Adelie penguins.  One hates to 'name drop', but I remember once our ship being moored against an ice flow down that way, while we unloaded supplies on to the ice to be helicoptered into Mawson Station.  During a break, the Danish crew, being Danes, decided to play some soccer/football on the ice.  The local Adelie clan decided that a football was an alien, threatening creature that needed to be seen off.  The two-foot Adelies totally ignored the 6-foot Danes and tried their best to shred the football.

I wouldn't mind seeing an ice flow at the moment.  Summer is really starting to bite down here now.  Tomorrow we're looking at 35 in Canberra, 37 in Hobart, 40 in Melbourne and 43 in Adelaide.  Would anyone like a few degrees (Janet?) - there's quite a few to spare at the moment.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Helen J on 18 December 2013, 09:46:28
Wouldn't mind a bit of your heat, though we're probably not the most in need.  Some sunshine would be very welcome - we're getting a lot of very grey and depressing days at the moment.

I liked the image of the penguins taking on the football!
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 18 December 2013, 10:11:50
Only if you are stingy in how much you send me.  I want to keep some of the sense of winter.  ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Hanibal94 on 18 December 2013, 11:23:04
Good evening OW.

Anybody else hoping for a White Christmas? (http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=Ooc5eJc5SHA)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Caro on 18 December 2013, 11:44:10
Excellent. :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 18 December 2013, 13:10:22
Wonderful.  Brings back good memories.  Thanks, Hanibal.   ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Dean on 18 December 2013, 16:28:59
Or maybe Grandma Got Run Over By a Reindeer??!! ::)

http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=MgIwLeASnkw
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: AvastMH on 18 December 2013, 18:22:29
Thanks Hanibal and Dean...good xmas chuckles ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: asterix135 on 19 December 2013, 09:27:43
So it's 19 days into the Zooniverse advent calendar and old weather hasn't shown up once, while Serengeti snapshot has shown up 4x.

Are they saving the best for last or something?

 >:(
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Caro on 19 December 2013, 10:16:36
That must be it.  ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Helen J on 19 December 2013, 10:57:02
Either that or they realise we're so dedicated that we don't need bribing by fame or fortune ....   ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Craig on 19 December 2013, 11:18:05
I don't need fame but I wouldn't object to bit of fortune.  ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Hanibal94 on 19 December 2013, 12:22:32
I don't need fame but I wouldn't object to bit of fortune.  ;D

I agree 100%, Craig.

P.S. Here's (https://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=SzXJ3vuCzCc#t=32) another good Christmas song - love the bass!
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: studentforever on 19 December 2013, 12:54:22
Part of our problem on the advent calendar is that our scanned pages aren't photogenic. Serengeti is very photogenic if you pick the photos carefully (I visited them a few times and found the site really addictive).  Philip and friends have done a great job on the blogs but log pages don't grab the eye.

But of course we know that the quality of OW is second to none - we have fed data from the logs into projects which the original team never thought of (like the Alaskan volcanoes, studies on the flu epidemic etc.) So, the advent calendar doesn't work for recruiting but I am sure that there will be many opportunities over the WW1 anniversaries.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 19 December 2013, 13:12:58
We should tell them to raid Caro's artwork in the forum gallery (http://forum.oldweather.org/index.php?topic=25.435).  :)

One of many:
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-szUqVCW7-0M/UkFwxOzss1I/AAAAAAAAPJk/OhXJVpHf8LM/s789/Perry.jpg)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Randi on 19 December 2013, 14:16:38
Definitely!
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 19 December 2013, 22:20:42
a total change of subject.
If it fitz, I sitz (http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=cKXzrWSdgOE)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Dean on 20 December 2013, 00:10:56
 ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: AvastMH on 20 December 2013, 02:56:09
 ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: propriome on 20 December 2013, 04:02:15
So cute...  ;D ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Randi on 20 December 2013, 04:05:36
 ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: jil on 20 December 2013, 09:03:28
 ;D It's what the internet was made for!
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Hanibal94 on 20 December 2013, 14:58:35
;D It's what the internet was made for!

That, and funny pranks (http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=g7z4bPNU4dE#t=13) as well.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: AvastMH on 21 December 2013, 02:55:46
It's officially winter - and google is leading the way. Knitting needles out folks (but only during 5 minute OW breaks of course)! I imagine that a lot of our jolly tars of old had the skill... :D
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Caro on 21 December 2013, 03:17:38
Happy winter/summer solstice everybody
(from the world's worst knitter).  :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 21 December 2013, 03:53:22
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-UrfcvUCEmRI/UrVX3HmidiI/AAAAAAAACvc/mYhV8_QYv5M/w599-h411-no/Winter+2.GIF)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Craig on 21 December 2013, 05:51:57
Now it's official. But we've had winter weather here since November. Must be something to do with OW pointers  ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 21 December 2013, 06:32:18
Or calendar labels which insist spring and autumn are 3 months long.  Everyone in the US and Canada knows better than that. ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Dean on 21 December 2013, 09:00:56
People here in western New York State insist that we have 2 seasons - '4th of July and WINTER.' ;)

Or maybe Winter and 'Construction Season.'  ::)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Craig on 21 December 2013, 09:20:53
But this year is unusual. In recent years I have been able to keep riding my bike well into December without any snow on the paths, even though the temperature often dropped below zero. Cross-country skiers have been disappointed as well. This year the snow came very early and it stayed. We certainly won't have to dream of a white Christmas.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Randi on 21 December 2013, 11:00:58
Neanderthals could speak like modern humans, study suggests (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-25465102)

The question is: "Could they transcribe?" ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Hanibal94 on 21 December 2013, 11:22:24
Neanderthals could speak like modern humans, study suggests (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-25465102)

The question is: "Could they transcribe?" ;)

Maybe. They did write books:

(http://i.crackedcdn.com/phpimages/photoshop/4/1/4/101414.jpg?v=1)

And they had Autocorrect:

(http://i.crackedcdn.com/phpimages/photoshop/8/7/5/155875_v1.jpg)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: jil on 21 December 2013, 13:16:18
 ;D  ;D  ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Randi on 21 December 2013, 13:58:06
 ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Randi on 22 December 2013, 06:32:48
Christmas comes early for Royal Navy ship HMS Protector (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-25483818)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Craig on 22 December 2013, 06:42:13
Seems like a pleasant summer's day there, doesn't it?
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Hanibal94 on 22 December 2013, 07:29:29
Wait... Did I just see a dude wearing a T - shirt and a Speedo in Antarctica?
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Craig on 22 December 2013, 08:03:31
It's the second day of summer  :D
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 22 December 2013, 10:59:58
It's the second day of summer  :D

Which only gives them sunlight - snow is cold, regardless of season.  Just guys being guys, I think - "I can function colder than you can function, and I don't care if it gives me serious frostbite."  From a woman's POV. ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Craig on 22 December 2013, 12:41:13
Now, Janet, you're on dangerous ground when you try to tell a Canadian about snow (I do have a few degrees of latitude on you)  :D :D :D

I remember skiing with the reflection of the warm spring sun on the slopes and having to peel off my jacket. More daring young skiers were in shorts an t-shirts, and some would end up in the pond of snow-melt at the bottom of the run. It's certainly not that warm in the above picture but I am sure it's not very uncomfortable.

But you're probably right about hubris aspect too.  :D

I just tried out my new shoes today. The snow keeps coming!
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 22 December 2013, 13:20:59
Here, the current storm is passing thru in and just south of the city, so to date, I (northern suburb) am just getting dusting of flurries, some rain mixed in which will freeze on the pavements tonight.  No shoveling, but that is worse driving than an inch of snow.  (Note, I'm on the dry side of most lake effect here - something I value.)

I'm assuming you have good warm boots by you.  Take care of yourself out there.   ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Craig on 22 December 2013, 13:48:38
I meant to say snow shows  :-[
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Thursday Next on 22 December 2013, 13:54:32
I meant to say snow shows  :-[

Are you sure that's what you meant to say?  :o ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 22 December 2013, 13:56:38
He's watching the pretty falling white stuff, instead of his keyboard.  ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Randi on 22 December 2013, 13:57:24
I meant to say snow shows  :-[

Are you sure that's what you meant to say?  :o ;D

I don't think so - new snow shoes ? :o ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Craig on 22 December 2013, 14:13:54
double  :-[ :-[

Yes, new snow shoes!!!   ;D ;D ;D

You're right too Janet, except now it's freezing rain and ice pellets. I may have to get out my skates.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 22 December 2013, 14:26:49
Wait... Did I just see a dude wearing a T - shirt and a Speedo in Antarctica?

Not sure who you saw, but this is me after a swim in the South Shetland islands. (1C.)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Helen J on 22 December 2013, 14:47:41
Meanwhile here in England .... the weather forecast is bad enough that the train companies are lifting all the restrictions on when tickets can be used and encouraging people to get travelling sooner rather than later.  For anyone who knows how draconian they usually are, this is both worrying and a cause for celebration!
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Randi on 22 December 2013, 14:51:56
Yes, that makes how bad the forecast is REALLY clear.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Thursday Next on 22 December 2013, 15:02:10
Yes, it is very bad news when so many people will be trying to travel long distances.  Luckily I only have to be out and about locally over the next couple of days, but I feel for everyone who is trying to get home for Christmas.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Helen J on 22 December 2013, 15:53:00
Me too - just local travel, so I'll stock up tomorrow morning and hunker down.  I only have to get as far as church for the next few days - a few hundred yards.  I feel for everyone who's trying to decide what best to do to get home.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Dean on 22 December 2013, 16:54:18
Just a little ice storm here overnight. I had 2.58" (6.5cm) rain in my gauge and 0.5" (1.5cm) ice on top.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Randi on 22 December 2013, 16:58:15
Beautiful!
I hope it didn't do too much damage :(
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 22 December 2013, 17:20:49
Dangerous beauty - is it thick enuf to break the trees?
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 22 December 2013, 18:16:03
I found a 25 minute-long Christmas gift.  A tour of the International Space Station. ;D
http://www.youtube.com/embed/doN4t5NKW-k
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Randi on 22 December 2013, 18:22:58
Neat!
I will watch it tomorrow.

Night all!
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Dean on 22 December 2013, 19:52:36
Dangerous beauty - is it thick enuf to break the trees?

Yes. A couple towns around here were 'Emergency Travel Only.' About 30,000 without power in the County. North got it worse. I saw on the news that Toronto Canada had 300,000 homes without power and for some it may be days to repower. :-[
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 22 December 2013, 20:29:42
That's what I was afraid I saw.  As lovely as the ice lace is, when I see it I dread what might break and fall on me or mine.   I don't really enjoy it.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Caro on 23 December 2013, 02:57:25
Hello OW.
Anyone for a 39-kilo snow globe? http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-25298507
Battening down the hatches here, again.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Randi on 23 December 2013, 03:03:08
Part of that ties into an earlier discussion we had ;D
Quote
He was inspired by the shoemakers of the time, who to get more light from a candle mounted a glass globe filled with water in front of the flame. This gave them a light spot the size of a hand.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: jil on 23 December 2013, 04:17:31
Everyone have a great Christmas!

I'm going to be without access to the internet for 5 to 6 days, feeling a bit jittery already (cold turkey?  ::)). I have just picked up the local library's copy of Robert K. Massie's Castles of Steel (thanks for the recomendations above), so that should keep me going. That and a massive intake of chocolate, cake etc.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Craig on 23 December 2013, 05:07:39
Good luck on your Internet deprivation, Jil, and Merry Christmas.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Steeleye on 23 December 2013, 06:29:39
It certainly looks a bit bracing 'up north'.  Down south, we're not expecting a White Christmas this year.  38C yesterday, and the forecast for Christmas Day is 28, which is pleasantly civilised and means that we won't have to keep the chocolate in the fridge.

Hang in there, northerners - the days are getting longer up your way.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Maikel on 23 December 2013, 10:09:38
I realise photographing all those log-pages must have been very tiresome work.
But you shouldn't forgot to move your pillow out of the frame.  ;D ;) ;D

http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Yorktown/vol009of040_cr2_to_jpg/vol009of040_108_1.jpg (http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Yorktown/vol009of040_cr2_to_jpg/vol009of040_108_1.jpg)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Helen J on 23 December 2013, 10:51:45
I realise photographing all those log-pages must have been very tiresome work.
But you shouldn't forgot to move your pillow out of the frame.  ;D ;) ;D

http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Yorktown/vol009of040_cr2_to_jpg/vol009of040_108_1.jpg (http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Yorktown/vol009of040_cr2_to_jpg/vol009of040_108_1.jpg)

Looks about elf-sized - very appropriate for the time of year ....   ;)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Caro on 23 December 2013, 11:20:22
Everyone have a great Christmas!

I'm going to be without access to the internet for 5 to 6 days, feeling a bit jittery already (cold turkey?  ::)). I have just picked up the local library's copy of Robert K. Massie's Castles of Steel (thanks for the recomendations above), so that should keep me going. That and a massive intake of chocolate, cake etc.

Happy Christmas Janet.
Castles of Steel should keep you out of mischief.  :)

Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 23 December 2013, 12:00:54
Enjoy your retreat into the physical world, Janet.  Sounds like a good book, too.  :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: AvastMH on 23 December 2013, 19:26:37
I realise photographing all those log-pages must have been very tiresome work.
But you shouldn't forgot to move your pillow out of the frame.  ;D ;) ;D

http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Yorktown/vol009of040_cr2_to_jpg/vol009of040_108_1.jpg (http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Yorktown/vol009of040_cr2_to_jpg/vol009of040_108_1.jpg)

I like small pillows - just enough to balance my brain on - that one looks about right..... ;D ;D ;D
I wonder what was in it? ;)

I seem to have spent the last 3 days listening to rain slapping onto the windows - it's been majorly HORRID.
Last few cards to write, nut roast still to make, last xmas cracker (almost the size and same filling as a pinata) to deliver, and several favourite carols have not yet had an outing. Come xmas day I can get some work done on patterson again..phew!
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 23 December 2013, 20:18:36
Looks comfy.  I most definitely am not leaving the house tonight - wind chill temps are listed as -5 to -20F on this evening's newscast, due to get colder overnight.  Glad I have warm boots and a down parka.

There is a new dusting of snow after our 3 day thaw, and nothing is melting today or tomorrow, so we definitely will have a white Christmas here.  :)

(http://www.smileyvault.com/albums/userpics/12177/x-aknigh.gif)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Caro on 24 December 2013, 02:45:21
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-LngtDw-gGpo/UqovP_ylatI/AAAAAAAAPX4/V5m6SQoHG3o/s590/christmas2013no2.jpg?gl=GB)

Our best wishes to all of you for a happy, peaceful Christmas and new year.  :-*

Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Helen J on 24 December 2013, 06:26:28
Thanks Caro - another wonderful creation.  And thanks to all the mods for their efforts to keep us all in order, and the forum working well; it's a great gift to us all.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Dean on 24 December 2013, 14:28:21
Thanks Caro - another wonderful creation.  And thanks to all the mods for their efforts to keep us all in order, and the forum working well; it's a great gift to us all.

Hear! Hear!!! ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: AvastMH on 24 December 2013, 21:10:29
I agree! ;D ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: camiller on 24 December 2013, 22:54:49
I agree, too!  Thanks and Happy Holidays to all!
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: lollia paolina on 25 December 2013, 01:29:51
Thank you Caro and moderators for all the great work you are doing :)

Merry Christmas, Old Weather!!!
:)

Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Randi on 25 December 2013, 01:57:38
Merry Christmas, everyone!
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Randi on 25 December 2013, 02:06:22
Hi Silvia!
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: lollia paolina on 25 December 2013, 02:24:48
Hi Randi :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Maikel on 25 December 2013, 03:37:41
(https://googledrive.com/host/0B9zcsx_rQy0bV0pjMy11dllGTjg/2013%20Christmas%20JP.png)

Merry Christmas to you all.

And thank you for showing your appreciation for Journey Plotter.  :D

If you're bored on this Christmas day, perhaps you can while your time away with the sliding block puzzle in the Extras (http://journeyplotter.ihostfull.com/jp/extra.html) tab of the Journey Plotter website. :)

Edit: Puzzle is no longer available.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: lollia paolina on 25 December 2013, 05:01:45
Merry Christmas to you, Maikel :)

And thank you for Journey Plotter and the new Extras :) :) :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: AvastMH on 25 December 2013, 05:36:03
 
A VERY HAPPY CHRISTMAS TO ALL ON OW

(http://media-cache-ec0.pinimg.com/736x/49/e7/8c/49e78c692344200b340b7ff80a59f232.jpg)

(The Royal National Lifeboat Institute's humorous xmas tree)
I hope that this season of joy recharges your soul-batteries for the year ahead!
Joan
xx
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Randi on 25 December 2013, 05:39:58
Hi Joan!

Very clever card ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Hanibal94 on 25 December 2013, 06:39:52
Very good card! Merry Christmas, everybody!
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Craig on 25 December 2013, 07:11:41
Lovely!  Merry Christmas to all.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Helen J on 25 December 2013, 07:20:46
Love the RNLI card - here's a Franciscan one for you to enjoy!  Merry Christmas to all of you - here's to sailing on for another year!

Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Dean on 25 December 2013, 07:23:37
Merry Christmas all!!
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: szukacz on 25 December 2013, 07:55:42
Merry Christmas, everyone!
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Randi on 25 December 2013, 08:32:47
Hi, Dean - I could have guessed who that picture was from ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 25 December 2013, 08:44:09
Merry Christmas, to all of us!
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Thursday Next on 25 December 2013, 13:36:42
Happy Christmas to Old Weather and all who sail in her!
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Dean on 25 December 2013, 16:59:40
Hi, Dean - I could have guessed who that picture was from ;D

HEY! WAIT! I resemble that remark! ::)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: AvastMH on 25 December 2013, 18:24:19
 ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Hanibal94 on 26 December 2013, 02:43:30
Happy sailing, Santa Dean. Hope the polar bears don't get you!
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: studentforever on 26 December 2013, 04:48:32
Belated Christmas Greetings, today is lovely and bright with only light winds.  Pleasant change from recent weather.  Hope everyone is safe and had a good Christmas
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Caro on 27 December 2013, 03:21:38
Hello OW.
The weather (http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2013/dec/27/high-winds-heavy-rain-uk-ireland) continues to be very unpleasant here.
I hope you all are safe, unflooded and have power for heat and light, the normal kinds of things.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Hanibal94 on 27 December 2013, 04:23:48
I'm alright, thanks. No unpleasant weather where I live - just a little chilly.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Craig on 27 December 2013, 05:59:07
We missed the brunt of the ice storm but many people in southern Ontario have been without power over Christmas while temperatures have been well below zero C.

http://news.nationalpost.com/2013/12/22/canada-ice-storm-travel-chaos-power-outages-as-massive-storm-hits-ontario-quebec-and-maritimes/

Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Randi on 27 December 2013, 06:01:25
Everything is OK here - though Christmas day was very gloomy and rainy.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 27 December 2013, 06:25:30
Very nice here as White Christmases go - cloudy with flurries on Tuesday and cloudy Christmas Day after getting several inches of snow overnight.  Wisconsin, where I was for family, was relatively balmy - mid-teens F (-9 C).  I escaped the 0 to 5 F (-18 to -16 C) that Chicagoland suffered.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Craig on 27 December 2013, 06:51:18
I walked over to my daughter's Christmas morning to watch the grandchildren open their presents (about 4 kilometres) when it was -25 C. But the sun was coming up and the wind was light so the walk was quite enjoyable. They had opened all their gifts by the time I got there, though  ;D. It's supposed to warm up to zero this weekend, before getting cold again.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Caro on 27 December 2013, 07:10:52
'Warm up to zero'? All things are relative, I guess.
It's a positively tropical 9C here. :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Dean on 27 December 2013, 07:32:53
Happy sailing, Santa Dean. Hope the polar bears don't get you!

'Stole' the picture out of a magazine.  :P We are 'on the hard' until late April.  :'(  It is supposed to be sunny and 40?F (4?C) and I plan to take a run up to the Lake (about 25mi/40Km) and check out the covers and the cradles.

Christmas here was snowy white but not bad. Some areas around us lost power on Sunday but had it back for Christmas - Some areas North into Canada around Toronto are STILL waiting for power!
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: camiller on 27 December 2013, 09:56:21
No power losses here in southern upstate New York.  I won't complain about the cold after reading about Chicago and Canada or after a wonderful visit with family in Louisiana earlier this week, where the temps were in the 70's!  Y'all stay warm!
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Craig on 27 December 2013, 10:22:02
And you might have had the music of Zacharie Richard to keep you even warmer, Carolyn  ;D
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: camiller on 27 December 2013, 10:43:13
 :)  So much music... thank goodness we can listen anytime we want!  Except for one of my favorites: live music during parades and football games!  Mardi Gras is highly recommended for the high school bands alone.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Kathy on 27 December 2013, 23:50:25
Where in Louisiana?  I grew up in Winnfield and got my degrees at Louisiana Tech.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Caro on 28 December 2013, 04:51:55
(http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/pictures/2013/12/27/1388160255195/2c3b1cbe-a9a4-4dfa-951a-e042f69615a0-620x413.jpeg)
http://www.theguardian.com/world/antarctica-live/gallery/2013/dec/27/antarctica-live-rescue-mission

Hello OW.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Helen J on 28 December 2013, 07:01:33
Hello OW - here are some wonderful space pictures to enjoy.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-23691292
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: jil on 28 December 2013, 11:31:33
Great space pics!
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Hanibal94 on 29 December 2013, 11:26:14
Good evening everyone.

Here (http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=HIk4w_fgW98) is another nice story about somebody helping homeless people.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Dean on 29 December 2013, 13:20:40
THAT, my friends, is what it's all about! ;D

Thanks for Sharing!!

I try to do my bit to help as a builder with Habitat For Humanity. We will be doing a build for a deserving family starting this spring when the snow melts.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 29 December 2013, 15:14:25
What a lovely reminder of what we can do.  Thanks, Hanibal.  :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Caro on 30 December 2013, 06:34:13
Rain rain rain rain rain ....
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 30 December 2013, 14:54:20
Please keep it over there and don't rain on our display.   ;)
http://www.sydneynewyearseve.com/fireworks/watch-live/ (http://www.sydneynewyearseve.com/fireworks/watch-live/)
21:00, 22:30 (small display) and Midnight.

Thanks.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Thursday Next on 30 December 2013, 15:17:32
I half-heard something on the radio earlier this evening that Dubai is intending to outshine Sydney this New Year ...
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Caro on 30 December 2013, 17:06:52
I could be wrong but I think Perth must be the sunniest Australian city.  :-X
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 30 December 2013, 18:00:22
Perth will be having the 2nd biggest fireworks display in Australia on Australia day. (26th Jan)

Dubai is claiming the worlds biggest display but we have the Worlds Best.  :P

Weather has been crazy this year with so many records and mixed up weather. a few weeks ago I had hail stones (little ones) and two days later it was well over 30c.

All the best to my readers for 2014, and remember 'The first hundred years are the hardest'

Stuart.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Craig on 30 December 2013, 18:07:56
Same to you, Stuart. Good to know that the next 100 will be easier!
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 30 December 2013, 20:54:06
Hello OW - here are some wonderful space pictures to enjoy.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-23691292

Here are some award winners from Downunder.
http://www.parkes.atnf.csiro.au/news_events/astrofest/awards/2013_AstroFest_DMA.html (http://www.parkes.atnf.csiro.au/news_events/astrofest/awards/2013_AstroFest_DMA.html)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 30 December 2013, 23:25:42
Stunningly beautiful.  I especially like "The Yukon's Northern Lights".  :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Caro on 31 December 2013, 02:36:42
Good to see Henry Parkes' great-great-great-great grandson appearing amongst the prize-winners.
Thanks for posting, Stuart.  :)
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 31 December 2013, 03:57:07
1st issue at said Henry Parkes telescope.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 31 December 2013, 05:03:30
The 9PM fireworks was just a warm up.
Title: Re: Chat - 2013
Post by: AvastMH on 31 December 2013, 18:53:13
Wonderful celestial images everyone! ;D

Just signing in to wish everyone an excellent 2014. I hope it brings you all happiness and fruitful ventures.
Oh - and 'happy birthday' to all race horses.


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