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Happy New Year everyone!
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Happy New Year OW, looks like a dry day coming up, time to do some pruning in the garden later.
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Happy New Year! Szczęśliwego nowego roku, szukacz.
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Happy New Year! I wish you all a wonderful 2012 and may the wind be always at your back. :)
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Happy New Year to the whole fleet and all who sail in her!
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Happy New Year to everyone!
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Happy New Year!
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I need to find the wormhole which will take me to HMS Talbot on 12th
December 1916 - they've just received 200lbs of chocolate from
Himalaya! Anyone want to come with me? :D
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I am actually eating home made, cooked from sugar, milk, and cocoa fudge as I read that post - ;D
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That sounds wonderful! Perhaps we should start a recipe thread .... :D
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I'll bite - ;D
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;D
Dziękuje bardzo CARO.
Ah, those accents top and bottom.
Lots of chocolate! Tasty all year round! :D
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Well, it is over ...
The Cowboys will not be going on to the playoffs... a sad day :'(
However...
I do own a share of the Packers, and boy, are they going! ;D
And...
I grew up in Louisiana, so lets give a shout out to the Saints (Who dat?!)
My dad was born in Detroit, so hats off to the spunky Lions.
Kathy
Got to go eat fudge now and begin planning for the 2012 (Fantasy Football) Draft ;D
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I'm glad there are some consolations - as well as the fudge!
Good luck with the fantasy league (as long as it doesn't take you away
from your transcribing duties too much ....) ;)
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Good morning shipmates -
Well, back to work today and of course it is very cold...
Why can't I win the lottery?! :P :'(
Hope everyone has a good day -
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'Why can't I win the lottery?' - a common refrain. My kids
keep reminding me that it would probably help if I bought a
ticket. :'(
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Morning everyone - except Steeleye, where I guess "Good Evening" is more appropriate! :D
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... and good evening to you, Thursday, wherever you are. It's
starting to cool down a bit here, after another hot one. After the
coldest December in 40 years, we have now had the hottest start to a
New year for a decade or two. It's confusing, to say the least.
::)
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One of the things that I find fascinating transcribing these logs is
that we 'know' of an impending event while the logs continue to be
filled out in blissful ignorance. I actually find it a bit spooky
(e.g. knowing that the 'Grafton' was about to be torpedoed near Malta in
1917). I have been working on the Isis since September 1914
during which time she has mainly been operating out of Queenstown on the
southern coast of Ireland. Earlier this evening I transcribed the
log for 7 May 1915, which is the date that the Lusitania was torpedoed
just a short distance from Queenstown. I'm not sure if the
Lusitania was actually going to call in at Queenstown - I suspect
so. On the 11th May, Isis arrived back in Queenstown. Not
surprisingly, there is no mention of the disaster (of Titanic-esque
proportions) that took place only four days previously, yet I am sure
that it was very much on everybody's minds at the time.
Another
little quirk comes up in the Wikipedia entry for Lusitania. The
article says that there were 1959 people on board, of whom 1198 died and
764 survived. Why is there a discrepancy of 3 people?
???
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My first thought is that the discrepancy is down to the well-known
reputation for accuracy which Wikipedia has! However, I can think
of one possible explanation, but I must stress that I am only guessing -
people who survived initially but died sometime afterwards might have
been double-counted.
I am sure the sinking of the Lusitania was
indeed on everyone's mind - they would have heard about it on the weekly
telegraph even if they were at sea. It is mentioned as such in
both "Scrimgeour's Small Scribbling Diary" and "The Big Blockade",
though it's possible that the former is the source for the latter, so
these may not be independent mentions.
I know exactly what you
mean about how weird it is having the foreknowledge of what is going to
happen. I had the same doing the Changuinola's logs as she put
into Halifax the day before the Halifax Explosion.
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One thought that occurred to me was perhaps those 3 are considered missing - no definitive proof of death or survival -
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Lusitania
steamed out of New York at noon on May 1, two hours behind schedule
because of a last-minute transfer of forty-one passengers and crew from
the recently requisitioned Cameronia.[44] Shortly after departure three
German-speaking men were found on board hiding in a steward's pantry.
Detective Inspector William Pierpoint of the Liverpool police, who was
travelling in the guise of a first class passenger, interrogated them
before locking them in the cells for further questioning when the ship
reached Liverpool.[45] Also among the crew was an Englishman, Neal
Leach, who had been working as a tutor in Germany before the war. Leach
had been interned but later released by Germany. The German embassy in
Washington was notified about Leach's arrival in America where he met
known German agents. Leach and the three German stowaways
went down with the ship, but they had probably been tasked with spying
on the Lusitania and its cargo. Most probably, Pierpoint would already
have been informed about Leach.[46]
[edit] Passengers
Lusitania carried 1,959 people on her last voyage, with 1,265 passengers and 694 crew aboard. Those aboard included a large number of illustrious and renowned people including:
Not well expressed, but it looks like the stowaways were counted with the dead but not with the passengers.
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mystery solved - thanks for looking further into it! :o
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By the way -
Good Morning shipmates -
very cold here - about 10 degrees (F) earlier - we are up to 16 degrees (F) right now (8:45 am)
ack....
Kathy
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... and here's another reason why I find some of the logs
fascinating. HMS Isis just 'spoke' to the S.V. 'Wray Castle' - and
I thought that I recognised the name (and the castle) from my childhood
days in the 50s when we used to sail on Lake Windermere. An entry
for Wray Castle (http://www.visitcumbria.com/amb/wray-castle.htm
(http://www.visitcumbria.com/amb/wray-castle.htm)) describes the origins
of the faux castle, and the first para is a real hoot! The
Wikipedia entry (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wray_Castle
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wray_Castle)) also refers to the sailing
vessel 'Wray Castle', an iron four-master launched in 1889.
... probably as boring as a wet weekend to most OWers, but I thought it was interesting!
;D
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Good morning Steeleye, good morning all.
I did enjoy the first paragraph of Wray Castle's description. :D
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I loved the disconnected way that last line got in there, as if
he did that in response to her critical reaction to the house.
;D
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Not boring at all - one of the incidental pleasures of this project is just this kind of link ....
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Good morning all -
here is something that might interest at least some of us ;D:
http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/sideshow/parasite-turns-honey-bees-zombies-212258832.html
ta -
Kathy
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I hope Tegwen reads this, his bees should be in hibernation now. Fingers crossed that they haven't been infected.
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Let's hope that something can be done about the parasite; at least the problem has been identified.
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I hope Tegwen reads this, his bees should be in hibernation now. Fingers crossed that they haven't been infected.
Thanks
Kathy and Studentforever. I have read it. I have done a bit of checking
and Wikipedia seems to think it is restricted to California and South
Dakota. I really hope it doesnt come over here. While this organism has
been implicated in Colony Collapse Disorder, it cannot be the only cause
as that syndrome is happening in Europe too.
I just hope mine
are securely tucked up against the wind at present. So far it has been a
very damp and warm winter which is not the best type for bees. We can
lose more colonies in this type of winter than in one like last year
when we had sub zero temperatures for several weeks on the trot.
All the best
K
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...
and here's another reason why I find some of the logs
fascinating. HMS Isis just 'spoke' to the S.V. 'Wray Castle' - and
I thought that I recognised the name (and the castle) from my childhood
days in the 50s when we used to sail on Lake Windermere. An entry
for Wray Castle (http://www.visitcumbria.com/amb/wray-castle.htm
(http://www.visitcumbria.com/amb/wray-castle.htm)) describes the origins
of the faux castle, and the first para is a real hoot!
Verily, it is written: "Who lives by the booze, shall die by the booze."
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;D
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Who can read the word when the room won't stop spinning? :P
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Just thought that this was interesting...
RNA tweaks adapt
octopuses to water temperature
(http://www.sciencenews.org/view/generic/id/337413/title/Eight-legged_evolution_exploits_editing)
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Just goes to show that once scientists think they have understood
something nature comes up with another twist. Still, just think how
boring the universe would be if we understood absolutely everything.
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Good morning everyone - thought you all might enjoy this -
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1306013/The-matchstick-armada-Modeller-spends-62-years-building-incredible-fleet-400-ships.html
ta-
Kathy
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Good morning everyone - thought you all might enjoy this -
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1306013/The-matchstick-armada-Modeller-spends-62-years-building-incredible-fleet-400-ships.html
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Kathy
Wow! Such incredible detail. 8)
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Good morning everyone - thought you all might enjoy this -
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1306013/The-matchstick-armada-Modeller-spends-62-years-building-incredible-fleet-400-ships.html
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Kathy
How did you find that?
He's got more ships than the Royal Navy.
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;D
Actually, the friend who sent me the story about Old Weather, sent this to me :P
Kathy
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Right, ta.
D'you fancy trying to read the logs from those ships? ;D
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;D ;D
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That would be twigs, not logs.
:o
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;D
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:) I love it.
Kathy, thanks for posting that.
What a great story. Nice to see the guy get recognition for
this. I think he should reconsider the insurance situation,
though. It's also a function of insurance to compensate you for
irreplaceable things that get destroyed. Can't replace it, but you
can put a price on it.
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Good Morning all -
I have been watching Downton Abbey - what a great show! :o
I loved the 1st season and so far the 2nd is quite good also - the parts about the front in WWI are particularly affecting -
Kathy
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Can't help thinking that trench was rather pristine, though!
I
hope you have the Christmas special to round off season 2 - not
officially part of the series, but it's the true concluding episode.
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FYI - Wikipedia (English language) is shutting down for 24 hours, to
make the public aware they really do not want the US congress to pass a
couple of bills. I hadn't heard of them in the general media
before this, but it certainly now has my attention. I intend to
research what is in these bills and why, and then probably write my
senators and representative. This has to be nearly the most
effective manner to get people aware of congress' actions since Oprah
Winfrey wanted some bills passed and asked for a letter writing
compaign.
http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/English_Wikipedia_anti-SOPA_blackout
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FYI
- Wikipedia (English language) is shutting down for 24 hours, to make
the public aware they really do not want the US congress to pass a
couple of bills. I hadn't heard of them in the general media
before this, but it certainly now has my attention. I intend to
research what is in these bills and why, and then probably write my
senators and representative. This has to be nearly the most
effective manner to get people aware of congress' actions since Oprah
Winfrey wanted some bills passed and asked for a letter writing
compaign.
http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/English_Wikipedia_anti-SOPA_blackout
I've
heard about SOPA. Although basically it's about preventing foreign
websites from illegally selling American movies, it causes more problems
by making it illegal to sing copyrighted songs on the internet (like
Justin Bieber did to get famous) and gives companies power to shut down
sites that hosts illegal content (problem with this is (at least from
what I've heard) is that this would let companies shut down Youtube if
someone posts something wrong). This is only my vague interpretation of
it, so I suggest to any Americans to look it up themselves.
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and gives companies power to shut down sites that hosts illegal content
(problem with this is (at least from what I've heard) is that this
would let companies shut down Youtube if someone posts something wrong).
What's
got even more people annoyed is you need no proof to get the site shut
down - apparently anyone can say "that site has my copyrighted material"
and it will get shut (at least temporarily), even if it never had any.
There was quite a big thing about Warner Bros asking a site to take down
files a while back, saying they were under its copyright - only for it
to be shown that none of the files actually contained anything
infringing (I believe they had sent a bot trawling through, and was
doing something like listing everything with "Bugs", "Bunny", etc in the
name) - so people do have some reason to be concerned that it could be
misused.
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As I hit the bunk last night, HMS Glory was running at about 94-95%
complete and I thought I'd finish it off this morning. No such
luck! Some ultra-keen people (curse you, jil et al.) finished her
off overnight - well ... my overnight - and now I don't know how the
story ended. Talk about frustrating!
In the 12 months that I
had on board (December '17 to December '18), Glory never left Murmansk;
in fact, the nearest she got to moving was to swap anchors ... a bit
like having a stretch. Despite the lack of travel, it was
certainly an interesting time, with football, Spanish flu, an officer
going missing, temperatures that would chill the soul, and the 'Russian
Intervention' bubbling away in the background. She was certainly a
lot more interesting than HMS Lancaster, which spent endless months
wandering up and down the west coast of South America with the most
exciting logs reading 'Saluted country, 21 guns' and the like.
Time to pack up my duffle bag and re-board 'Isis'.
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If all you need to get rid of the frustration is to read the last logs, go to the vessel page and read them!
Impossible to do on active ships, available to everyone on completed ships. For Glory, go to
http://www.oldweather.org/vessels/4ef4f787e53e0a0c91002b47
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Hi Janet,
It looks like the last day scanned was 31 December
1918. When I finished up last night, the last log I transcribed
was for 26 December. So near ! It's just nice to be there at
the death - I don't know why, possibly another addiction issue.
Cheers
::)
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An issue I thoroughly understand from the inside! ;)
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The Old Weather BOINC Team has now passed the 2 Million mark!
http://boincstats.com/stats/boinc_team_graph.php?pr=bo&teamcpid=458b2e76b918586f0d0d1a65026f9317
Good work everyone!
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As
I hit the bunk last night, HMS Glory was running at about 94-95%
complete and I thought I'd finish it off this morning. No such
luck! Some ultra-keen people (curse you, jil et al.) finished her
off overnight - well ... my overnight - and now I don't know how the
story ended. Talk about frustrating!
In the 12 months that I
had on board (December '17 to December '18), Glory never left Murmansk;
in fact, the nearest she got to moving was to swap anchors ... a bit
like having a stretch. Despite the lack of travel, it was
certainly an interesting time, with football, Spanish flu, an officer
going missing, temperatures that would chill the soul, and the 'Russian
Intervention' bubbling away in the background. She was certainly a
lot more interesting than HMS Lancaster, which spent endless months
wandering up and down the west coast of South America with the most
exciting logs reading 'Saluted country, 21 guns' and the like.
Time to pack up my duffle bag and re-board 'Isis'.
Steeleye,
Sorry
about that (although I blame al!). I know how you feel the same thing
happened to me on Ben-my-Chree. It's a bad sign when sleeping is getting
in the way of transcribing ;D
I don't think you missed very much,
certainly no last minute decision to actually sail anywhere and Sub
Lieut Thompson managed to behave himself.
jil
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As
I hit the bunk last night, HMS Glory was running at about 94-95%
complete and I thought I'd finish it off this morning. No such
luck! Some ultra-keen people (curse you, jil et al.) finished her
off overnight - well ... my overnight - and now I don't know how the
story ended. Talk about frustrating!
In the 12 months that I
had on board (December '17 to December '18), Glory never left Murmansk;
in fact, the nearest she got to moving was to swap anchors ... a bit
like having a stretch. Despite the lack of travel, it was
certainly an interesting time, with football, Spanish flu, an officer
going missing, temperatures that would chill the soul, and the 'Russian
Intervention' bubbling away in the background. She was certainly a
lot more interesting than HMS Lancaster, which spent endless months
wandering up and down the west coast of South America with the most
exciting logs reading 'Saluted country, 21 guns' and the like.
Time to pack up my duffle bag and re-board 'Isis'.
If
you want to learn more about the Russian Intervention from one of our
ships logs, go back through the log of M33. I transcribed a little as
she was deep into Russian Territory on one of the rivers that flows into
the sea near Murmansk. She was involved in action there and was hit at
least once. At the end the river was so low they had to unload her gun
and ship it by road to Murmansk, to reduce her draught sufficiently to
make it back down river. Then there was a hairy tow back to blighty.
Bunts was the captain and will doubtless remember more details than I
can.
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Thanks Tegwen, it looks like the logs will be interesting
reading. It must have been an interesting trip to and from
Murmansk - the 'M29' class monitors only had a draught of about 6 feet
which would have produced a rather lively ride in heavy weather! I
see that the Wikipedia article mentions that she is one of only two WW1
RN ships surviving. Any idea which was the other one?
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Thanks
Tegwen, it looks like the logs will be interesting reading. It
must have been an interesting trip to and from Murmansk - the 'M29'
class monitors only had a draught of about 6 feet which would have
produced a rather lively ride in heavy weather! I see that the
Wikipedia article mentions that she is one of only two WW1 RN ships
surviving. Any idea which was the other one?
I
think the other is HMS Caroline a C class cruiser still afloat in
Belfast Dockyard. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HMS_Caroline_%281914%29
M33
can be seen next to the Victory at Portsmouth, in her wartime dazzle
paintwork. http://www3.hants.gov.uk/m33.htm. I emailed them recently to
ask if one can go aboard her and look round as I have to go to
Portsmouth at some stage soon & thought it would be good to do at
the same time. Sadly that is not available at present. They are
investigating the possibility and hope for an announcement later in the
year. I will keep in touch with them and let people know if there is a
change. I would certainly love to have a look round inside her.
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The Foxglove made it to WWII - she was sunk during that war - :'(
Kathy W.
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Thanks
Tegwen, it looks like the logs will be interesting reading. It
must have been an interesting trip to and from Murmansk - the 'M29'
class monitors only had a draught of about 6 feet which would have
produced a rather lively ride in heavy weather! I see that the
Wikipedia article mentions that she is one of only two WW1 RN ships
surviving. Any idea which was the other one?
I think that the other Great War relic is the Old Girl - Caro.
Disambiguation: not Caro the Global Moderator, but our HMS Caroline:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HMS_Caroline_(1914)
There is also:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holland_1
but that's a bit of a cheat.
ps
Bit repetitive, that. I broke off to make a cuppa for the window cleaners and I spotted only Kathy's post, not Keith's.
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Disambiguation: not our Caro the Global Moderator, but HMS Caroline:
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Thanks
Tegwen, it looks like the logs will be interesting reading. It
must have been an interesting trip to and from Murmansk - the 'M29'
class monitors only had a draught of about 6 feet which would have
produced a rather lively ride in heavy weather! I see that the
Wikipedia article mentions that she is one of only two WW1 RN ships
surviving. Any idea which was the other one?
I think that the other Great War relic is the Old Girl - Caro.
Disambiguation: not Caro the Global Moderator, but our HMS Caroline:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HMS_Caroline_(1914)
There is also:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holland_1
but that's a bit of a cheat.
ps
Bit repetitive, that. I broke off to make a cuppa for the window cleaners and I spotted only Kathy's post, not Keith's.
My
fault again I suspect Bunts. I first wrote that I didnt know what the
other ship was, then engaged brain, but still had to do some searching
to find HMS Caroline's name, before modifying my original post. I hope
the window cleaners enjoyed the tea.
Cleaner(s) plural??? Bunts mansions must be even bigger than I imagined. ;)
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Disambiguation: not our Caro the Global Moderator, but HMS Caroline:
Ahem ...
I almost fell into that trap but realised that she is not ours; we are her minions.
So ... will you settle for "Disambiguation: not the Caro, Global Moderator, but our HMS Caroline".
;)
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ps
Bit repetitive, that. I broke off to make a cuppa for the window cleaners and I spotted only Kathy's post, not Keith's.
My
fault again I suspect Bunts. I first wrote that I didnt know what the
other ship was, then engaged brain, but still had to do some searching
to find HMS Caroline's name, before modifying my original post. I hope
the window cleaners enjoyed the tea.
Cleaner(s) plural??? Bunts mansions must be even bigger than I imagined. ;)
Well,
they drank it, while I stood over them, and claimed it was acceptable.
Whilst tugging their forelocks they used the free hands to deal with the
chocolate biscuits. Some they ate, and the rest they took away as
treats for their wives and children.
There are only two of them -
salt of the earth chaps. One attends to the ground floor, the stables
and the summer house while the other cleans the upper three
storeys. ;D
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One is lucky to find such chaps these days isnt one? When one does,
it pays one to hold on to them with small treats but I suspect that
chocolate biscuits may be over doing it just a little.
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One
is lucky to find such chaps these days isnt one? When one does, it pays
one to hold on to them with small treats but I suspect that chocolate
biscuits may be over doing it just a little.
'tis but once a year.
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Hi all -
I finally got a copy of Scientific American to read the article, and right after the one on Old Weather, there is an article on...
CHOCOLATE!
Actually,
the article is about saving the Cacao tree - apparently it is not very
strong, and has very specific requirements for growing. :o
Something must be done - the world would be a much sadder place with CHOCOLATE!
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Hi all -
I finally got a copy of Scientific American to read the article, and right after the one on Old Weather, there is an article on...
CHOCOLATE!
How perfect is that! ;D
You mean there was something that you didn't know about chocolate?
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Something must be done - the world would be a much sadder place with CHOCOLATE!
Kathy: Have you completely lost your bearings? I hope that you meant to say 'WITHOUT'.
Perhaps a chocolate fix will make you feel better.
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Something must be done - the world would be a much sadder place with CHOCOLATE!
Kathy: Have you completely lost your bearings? I hope that you meant to say 'WITHOUT'.
Perhaps a chocolate fix will make you feel better.
My guess is that she's been at the liqueur chocolates.
Again.
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yes, yes, of course, without chocolate -
I have a
pinched nerve in my neck/upper back and the pain killer is making me a
little loopy - not any chocolate liqueur :P
and yes, I just ate a mint chocolate cookie - yum!!! ;D
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Only 'a mint chocolate cookie', Kathy, and not 'some'? Such self control is quite admirable.
I
look forward to both the Scientific American articles; they should
arrive down here around the middle of the year as long as the winds are
favourable.
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HMS Victory 'set to be recovered' from seabed (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-16671444)
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HMS Victory 'set to be recovered' from seabed (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-16671444)
Do
you think we could lay claim to some of the money for this
project? I'm sure someone could make a good case for it!
;)
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HMS Victory 'set to be recovered' from seabed (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-16671444)
Do
you think we could lay claim to some of the money for this
project? I'm sure someone could make a good case for it!
;)
Forget the project - give it to the transcribers.
Let's hope it doesn't get fouled up as has happened previously to Odyssey Marine Exploration. >:(
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Come on, government to pass over some money in the current
mood. If we are lucky they won't actually charge us for doing the
transcribing. However, I shall look forward to seeing some
of the artefacts from Victory in due course but I'm not holding my
breath over the supposed silver and gold she was carrying.
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For those who's ship has been in port in Cromarty, Scotland: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-16592220
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For those who's ship has been in port in Cromarty, Scotland: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-16592220
I
stayed at a friend's house near the Black Isle, before Nigg began
building oil platforms (but after the Invergordon Mutiny - before you
ask). Very attractive area once I'd got the hang of single track roads
with passing places. :o
I went a mile or so to the
"local" shop and when the shopkeeper was accumulating my purchases, she
gave me a fixed look and enquired: "You'll be staying with the English
man?" 8)
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Morning all -
saw this - I hope it works!
http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/sideshow/bees-may-used-deter-park-vandals-164358829.html
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Kathy
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It is at least plausible that the 'Holy Well' at the other end of
this park is the well of the St Winifred referred to in the 'Brother
Cadfael' books. There is also a reference to to the story in the
Old Llangar Church which isn't that far away. The church is under
the care of Cadw. The key is obtainable from Rug Church visitor
centre, see the Cadw website for opening times. Both churches are
well worth a visit if you like medieval churches and art. Ellis
Peters took a few liberties with the geography but the basis of the
story is there in the tale of St Bueno.
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I loved the 'Brother Cadfael' books!
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Morning all -
saw this - I hope it works!
http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/sideshow/bees-may-used-deter-park-vandals-164358829.html
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Kathy
I
find this story a little unsettling. Bees often have a hard time
being accepted in communities, and are sometimes banned, due to
unfounded fears that bees "attack" people for no reason.
Using bees for "security" is, in my opinion, a bad idea.
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I tend to agree with you Carolyn. Mine when they had no queen would
have made excellent guards, but it would not be right to remove queens
from the colonies just to make them better guards.
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It's snowing here (near Aix en Provence) :o
I was going to go to the farmer's market, but the buses aren't running.
We rarely have snow here, but we got a couple of centimeters overnight and it is still snowing.
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Anyone spot the milestone the project passed this morning ?
25,000 Transcribers !
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Anyone spot the milestone the project passed this morning ?
25,000 Transcribers !
Very impressive!
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It is STILL snowing!
I just hope the electricity and phone
lines don't go down. That happened a couple of years ago when there was a
really heavy snow - the snow caused trees to fall on the lines - some
trees also blocked the roads. We are not used to snow here. Although we
are not far from Aix, we are out in the country...
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It's snowing here (near Aix en Provence) :o
I was going to go to the farmer's market, but the buses aren't running.
We rarely have snow here, but we got a couple of centimeters overnight and it is still snowing.
Are the streets being patrolled by St. Bernards with barrels round their necks?
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It is STILL snowing!
I
just hope the electricity and phone lines don't go down. That happened a
couple of years ago when there was a really heavy snow - the snow
caused trees to fall on the lines - some trees also blocked the roads.
We are not used to snow here. Although we are not far from Aix, we are
out in the country...
Seems to have stopped - at least for now.
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Glad to hear that, Randi. If you were to lose your electricity
and be unable to transcribe, well, it just doesn't bear thinking
about! (Sorry, should this be on the "Addiction" thread?)
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So far, so good. Snow is melting. Limited bus service. I stocked up on food (especially stuff that could be eaten cold).
Yesterday heavy snow was forecast for tonight and Thursday, but now they say light snow.
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That sounds better - hope the revised forecast is correct and you
don't get enough snow to cause any significant disruption. Just
cold here in Exeter, though they were forecasting snow for up on the
moors.
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Icily cold here in Oxfordshire too - but also beautiful, with clear
skies, and wonderful sightings for me today of both the rising sun and
the rising moon.
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Icily
cold here in Oxfordshire too - but also beautiful, with clear skies,
and wonderful sightings for me today of both the rising sun and the
rising moon.
Same here in the North West. Blue sky all day.
Visibility so clear that I could see thursdaynext stoning her crows.
Good shot, Ma'am!
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It's even been a bright day here in the frozen north. They are
even forecasting a nice day tomorrow. Our days are slowly, but
noticeably, getting longer so having a bright day really energises you.
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We are having temps in the low 60s :o
and bright sunny days - I'm just waiting for the other shoe to fall! ;D
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... and down this end of the planet we're havikng a weird summer
with max temps where I live averaging in the mid-20s (you'll have to do
the conversion to F), whereas they are normally mid-30s in
Jan/Feb. We walked across town last night to see 'The Iron Lady'
and it was pullover weather on the way home. Really bizarre start
to the year.
:-\
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It's
even been a bright day here in the frozen north. They are even
forecasting a nice day tomorrow. Our days are slowly, but noticeably,
getting longer so having a bright day really energises you.
You
will let me know when the days reach 25 hours, won't you? I'll need to
advise the 24/7 shops to revise their signs. ;D
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:P
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;D
:-*
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We are having temps in the low 60s :o
and bright sunny days - I'm just waiting for the other shoe to fall! ;D
The first shoe fell last year, this year's mildness is the
other shoe restoring the balance that is our averages. On this
date last year, Chicago had 22" of snow dumped on us in less than 24
hours. Even Chicago shuts down for a week, digging out of
that. This year, we are having a repeated warm spell - the 40s
Sunday and Monday, the high 50s yesterday and back in the 40s
today. Every bit of this season's under-average 12" of snow is
completely melted and gone. And both winters look to be in the
record books, last year for its cold and snow and this year for its
warmth and mildness.
This record-making streak is a lot more fun than the last one. ;D
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Well, I have a winter.
Already a week from Russia blows a frosty wind.
In the night -21C in the day to-17C, but very sunny (b). 8)
But it's 200 km to the east is already-30C.
As for the snow it is almost not there. Sublimation is so fast that the snow disappears in the eyes.
From the frosty greeting. :-* (The lips are cold)
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Well, I have a winter.
Already a week from Russia blows a frosty wind.
In the night -21C in the day to-17C, but very sunny (b). 8)
But it's 200 km to the east is already-30C.
As for the snow it is almost not there. Sublimation is so fast that the snow disappears in the eyes.
From the frosty greeting. :-* (The lips are cold)
Thanks for reminding us how lucky we are.
You must be laughing at the way we complain about our really quite warm weather. :-[
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Would you like one prawn, or two?
http://news.stv.tv/scotland/north/296022-supergiant-crustacean-discovered-by-scots-scientists/
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Well, I have a winter.
Already a week from Russia blows a frosty wind.
In the night -21C in the day to-17C, but very sunny (b). 8)
But it's 200 km to the east is already-30C.
As for the snow it is almost not there. Sublimation is so fast that the snow disappears in the eyes.
From the frosty greeting. :-* (The lips are cold)
I
heard on the news about how very cold it is in Poland and am not going
to moan on about a few frosty days here. I am afraid I can only
send you warm wishes!
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Well, I have a winter.
Already a week from Russia blows a frosty wind.
In the night -21C in the day to-17C, but very sunny (b). 8)
But it's 200 km to the east is already-30C.
As for the snow it is almost not there. Sublimation is so fast that the snow disappears in the eyes.
From the frosty greeting. :-* (The lips are cold)
Just the weather for a big mug of hot chocolate ;D
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;D I have a mug, plugged a big mug of hot chocolate. ;D
Is there any difference between:
shrimp and prawn?
Ha, Fireplace is a beautiful thing.
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;D I have a mug, plugged a big mug of hot chocolate. ;D
Is there any difference between:
shrimp and prawn?
Ha, Fireplace is a beautiful thing.
Not sure about the genome but I regard prawns as big shrimps. Sometimes very big shrimps, but not that big. :o
Enjoy your chocolate and fireplace but beware of chilblains.
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And as for the shrimp.
It's not like them.
I remember once I
was invited to the tavern with seafood. The waiter at my eyes did bzzzzz
and filled me a glass of cocktail shrimp. Of course, I thanked a green
color on the face. :-[ :-X :P
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And as for the shrimp.
It's not like them.
I
remember once I was invited to the tavern with seafood. The waiter at
my eyes did bzzzzz and filled me a glass of cocktail shrimp. Of course, I
thanked a green color on the face. :-[ :-X :P
Sick of the sea ... even if you were on land.
Sorry.
( ;D ;D )
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Who's a little treasure?
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/world-war-2/9057074/2-billion-treasure-chest-of-sunken-Second-World-War-British-steamer-discovered.html
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Thanks
Tegwen, it looks like the logs will be interesting reading. It
must have been an interesting trip to and from Murmansk - the 'M29'
class monitors only had a draught of about 6 feet which would have
produced a rather lively ride in heavy weather! I see that the
Wikipedia article mentions that she is one of only two WW1 RN ships
surviving. Any idea which was the other one?
I think that the other Great War relic is the Old Girl - Caro.
Disambiguation: not Caro the Global Moderator, but our HMS Caroline:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HMS_Caroline_(1914)
Further
to the discussion about HMS Caroline above, did anyone else see the
programme about British Rail Journeys last night on BBC2?
Michael
Portillo (Yes, him, and Yes, I know!!!) was in Belfast including
visiting the Harland and Wolff Shipyard. You could clearly see HMS
Caroline in several of the shots, although she was not mentioned by
name.
You can watch again here.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b00xgqxy. Not sure if it is available
outside the UK. Also not sure it is worth sitting through a lot of MP
for a couple of shots of a WW1 cruiser, but some of us are more addicted
than others!
Enjoy the Caroline but just dont look too carefully at MP's Jacket.
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I didn't see BBC2 last night, but I was watching ABC1 (and that's
not the U.S. ABC!) for the last part of Dan Snow's 'Empire of the
Seas' HMS Caroline featured very prominently
;D
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First snow of the winter here in Oxfordshire - not very much, but it
is lying, and they're forecasting more. Hope no one is having too
many difficulties with it ...
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According to the ABC website
(http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-02-06/deadly-cold-snap-continues-in-europe/3812726
(http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-02-06/deadly-cold-snap-continues-in-europe/3812726))
our European OW contingent is doing it pretty tough at the moment. I
hope you're alll safe and well and hunched over your keyboards to keep
warm!
Cheers, Howard
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According
to the ABC website
(http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-02-06/deadly-cold-snap-continues-in-europe/3812726
(http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-02-06/deadly-cold-snap-continues-in-europe/3812726))
our European OW contingent is doing it pretty tough at the moment. I
hope you're alll safe and well and hunched over your keyboards to keep
warm!
Cheers, Howard
It's cold here - relatively speaking.
Nothing compared to what szukacz is facing though!
Good weather for indoor activities (like all those things I need to do but keep putting off because of OW).
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Dunno about the continent, but nothing special here in the UK - what
snow hasn't completely melted is just slush now. It's our standard
3-day-winter, where we have 3 days of snow and ice before returning to
rain.
(For summer, replace "snow and ice" with "sun", and you've pretty much got the idea)
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Us poor plodding souls on HMS St George can give away any
aspirations to be Captain beyond Wednesday - lollia paolina has just
joined the ship's company. All logs should be completed by the
weekend!
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No water :'(
I guess I should have left a faucet dripping, but we never had problems before :-[
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You might want to leave one faucet cracked so that when the pipe
starts to thaw, it will keep running. At least until you are sure
the frost line is safely above the feed pipes again. It only takes
one near the intake, the house should keep the interior pipes okay.
I'm
curious - how deep are French water pipes laid to avoid freezing?
Here, the average frost line is 2 to 3 feet deep, but the pipes are
laid 5 feet deep for safety in the record breaking years.
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Let it snow, let it snow, let it snow ;D
we are in the
midst of our first "big" snow of the year - I think we are supposed to
get 2 inches - enough to be pretty on the trees, but not enough to cause
problems - just as it should be!
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Big snow!!! 2 inches? come up to
N.H. although this year we are hurting. I rember 3'' of snow in
Washington, DC and the city was shut down for 3 day. This year we
have had a lot of ice and it makes it tough to get around so I stay on
the oW and type away! Dean
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"big" ;)
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Happy Valentine's Day, everyone!
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Kathy
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Ahem .... A modest announcement
I've just reached over 7500 pages transcribed!
I'm sure some have done far more - but I'm happy to have reached this landmark ... :D :D :D
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Congratulations. You are doing better than I am but I console myself that every page transcribed is a contribution.
Note
to team, perhaps as well as giving us the pages we have transcribed on
our home page they could give us a bronze star for 2500 pages, silver
for 5000 pages, gold for 7500 pages and platinum for 10,000 pages, then
they could start adding rubies, diamonds, pearls or whatever. Just
a bit of fun which wouldn't take too much programming.
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Congratulations, Helen!
Great idea, studentforever!
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Ahem .... A modest announcement
I've just reached over 7500 pages transcribed!
I'm sure some have done far more - but I'm happy to have reached this landmark ... :D :D :D
Well done!
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Coming up on BBC Radio 4 on Saturday - Attention all Shipping
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b01c6kr7
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I wonder if they'll play "Sailing By"?
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Surely they must? R4 listeners would rise up in revolt if they didn't - and that's not something to risk lightly.
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WE HAVE WATER!!!
That is, our pipes have finally thawed. Many others have had problems too with this long spell of abnormally cold weather.
We also have wonderful friends who have been refilling our water bottles for just over a week!
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Great news - you must be so relieved! I presume you are now away to have a nice hot bath/shower? ;D
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Coming up on BBC Radio 4 on Saturday - Attention all Shipping
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b01c6kr7
I wonder if they'll play "Sailing By"?
Surely they must? R4 listeners would rise up in revolt if they didn't - and that's not something to risk lightly.
Surely Blur's "This Is A Low" is the ultimate Shipping Forecast song?
Thanks for mentioning this, jil. Sounds interesting. I wish they still did the Shipping Forecast on FM every day!
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I wish they still did the Shipping Forecast on FM every day!
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b01bsgyq
Want to buy an alarm clock?
Or my more regular listening:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b01bsgyl
Although I have to say that I find recordings are (generally) less satisfactory than a "fresh" item.
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Sometimes I remember to select Radio 4 LW when listening online in the early evening - as long as there is no cricket!!!
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Sometimes I remember to select Radio 4 LW when listening online in the early evening - as long as there is no cricket!!!
Yes, it's terrible when the commentary is interrupted, but almost worth it.
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Only just spotted this.
Don't like to worry you even further,
but do you know if you have a "plastic" or metal supply pipe? Plastic
should survive freezing OK, metal may be more of a problem. Even worse
if you have a water meter.
I know that in many parts of France "mains water" is a fairly recent phenomenon so you should be OK.
<fingers crossed>
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Only just spotted this.
Don't
like to worry you even further, but do you know if you have a "plastic"
or metal supply pipe? Plastic should survive freezing OK, metal may be
more of a problem. Even worse if you have a water meter.
I know that in many parts of France "mains water" is a fairly recent phenomenon so you should be OK.
<fingers crossed>
Speaking
from the usually-frozen American mid-west, the orders that go out from
the city when water mains might freeze is to find the single faucet
closest to the house's intake and crack it open to dribble. Not
drip, but a very thin-but-continuous dribble. That keeps the water
moving from 'out' to 'in'. Only if the house pipes are by an
uninsulated outside wall do you have to worry about other faucets.
They want every single household to do that, in order to keep the big
pipes down the middle of the streets from freezing. And every kind
of pipe will pop apart at a joint if it is filled with expanding ice.
Easier,
call your city and find out how deep the main pipes run, and how deep
the frost line has gotten in the ground. You want to start that
when the frost line in the ground has gotten low enough to threaten the
pipes. (They are 5 feet deep in Chicago, and we've had to crack
our faucets on only a couple of times in my lifetime. Average
frost line is 2 to 3 feet of frozen dirt.) Then check your house
for above-ground exposure to a too-cold wall. The same dribble
should help at the first faucet past the cold spot.
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You guys have been busy since I was last here, I need to find new vessels to follow now. ;D
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You guys have been busy since I was last here, I need to find new vessels to follow now. ;D
And
most of them are pretty crowded! If you have a day or two off,
you can have moved months in the logs and not have a clue where you are
(except with the depot ships, where you know exactly where you are, but
may have new handwriting to contend with).
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Thanks Janet and Bunts!
One of our handyman neighbors says
the pipes 'should' be plastic, so they 'should' be OK. We do have a
water meter, but it is in a (3 foot deep?) pit with (some) insulation.
Ours seems to be OK, but I have heard that other people have had their
water meters burst.
I had heard about letting a faucet run, but
since we had never had problems in the past I didn't think to do it.
Also, I didn't know how much. Now, thanks to Janet, I know that the drip
I would have tried would probably have been insufficient.
The
problem is that the house is quite a ways from the road (and meter) and
there is a small 'ravine' between the house and the road. To cross the
ravine there is a concrete bridge, shaded by pine trees, and the pipes
are in the side of the bridge....
Our friends are considering various possible solutions for next winter.
Everything appears to be OK!
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If your pipes are partly above ground because of a ravine and
haven't frozen yet, you are in plumbing territory past anything I've
experienced. The short times I've lived outside a city, it was on
flattish prairie or wooded land. Ravines definitely exist there,
they just didn't happen to be near me. I'd crack open a faucet -
just one, past my house's cold spots - and then call a plumber to
ask. The preventive cost of the water can't be more than a
frozen/burst pipe. As soon as the cold temperature seems to break
and the frozen state of the world looks/feels more like what your pipes
were designed for, you can shut the water down.
I also don't know
anything about buried meters. Ours were always inside the house,
with only the dials mounted on the outside wall so meter-readers never
had to come in.
I did try googling, and got this: Preventing Frozen Pipes
(http://www.plumbingqa.com/preventing-frozen-pipes/). What they
say about adding hot water wouldn't help the pipes at your ravine.
Try googling and see if you can find a chat room for
pipes-over-ravines. :)
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When I was a kid, probably in the winter of '47, milk froze in the
bottles and we had a lead pipe freeze inside the house. It was packed
with hot water bottles to thaw, and sprang a leak. After that, the tap
was left running but the water froze in the outlet and filled the sink,
fortunately it was an old, big stone one.
There are "plastic sponge" pipe covering tubes available; if you can get easy access to them without dismantling the bridge.
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Coming up on BBC Radio 4 on Saturday - Attention all Shipping
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b01c6kr7
In case anyone needs further encouragement, here's another shameless promo:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-17065521
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I've just been summoned, by the head caterer, into the food
preparation area. (It seems quite pleasant in there.) She informed me
that a wasp had made an appearance. Sure enough it began circling. It is
quite a big one. This is mid-February, North West England; temperature
about 5 degrees C.
Aside: Keith, are there "queen wasps"?
I
suppose it had been hibernating somewhere on the estate and may have
sensed the preparation of some syrupy, raisiny, oatmeal "survival
rations".
Where did I put the big game traps?
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A big wasp? Is it a hornet? :o
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I've
just been summoned, by the head caterer, into the food preparation
area. (It seems quite pleasant in there.) She informed me that a wasp
had made an appearance. Sure enough it began circling. It is quite a big
one. This is mid-February, North West England; temperature about 5
degrees C.
Aside: Keith, are there "queen wasps"?
I
suppose it had been hibernating somewhere on the estate and may have
sensed the preparation of some syrupy, raisiny, oatmeal "survival
rations".
Where did I put the big game traps?
There
certainly are queen wasps. Usually it is only the queen that survives
the winter by finding a place that is frost free to hide. She emerges in
the spring, finds a nest site and starts to lay there. The new workers
that hatch from those eggs start to make the nest proper. Therefore
yours was probably a queen, awoken by the sudden increase in temperature
deciding to come out to start to look for a nest site.
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A big wasp? Is it a hornet? :o
We
heard it first. It sounded like a two stroke moped being thrashed along
the street. Then it appeared, flying around the fluorescent light.
While I reached for a glass to catch it, it hid. Coward! I think it's
inside the light fitting.
It's at least an inch long. It's not the
biggest one I've seen. That one, a good two inches, had been in the car
boot. Easter Day, years ago, I pulled out a waterproof jacket that had
been undisturbed since the previous autumn. The wasp emerged and
threatened to fly off with me. It must have been a bit groggy because I
overpowered it. I felt sorry afterwards. It was just a reflex action.
Hornet?
Dunno. I've looked at some photos, but I think I'd have to see them
side by side to distinguish and I don't suppose that would be easily
accomplished.
Thanks Keith. That seems a distinct possibility.
I expect your bees have more sense than to emerge from hibernation yet. Keep us posted.
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There
certainly are queen wasps. Usually it is only the queen that survives
the winter by finding a place that is frost free to hide. She emerges in
the spring, finds a nest site and starts to lay there. The new workers
that hatch from those eggs start to make the nest proper. Therefore
yours was probably a queen, awoken by the sudden increase in temperature
deciding to come out to start to look for a nest site.
OUCH! I would NOT want
wasp eggs in my kitchen light fixture, no matter how well you do in
getting rid of the queen! The future problems from it are
downright scary. Do our bee-keepers know how to prevent that?
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We've had wasps' nests in the loft but of modest proportions,
possibly solitary wasps. We never had a horde of them (not yet) - the
house across the road did.
We were buzzed by an enormous half black,
half yellow insect on a beach near Cannes. I don't suppose it's got any
smaller in my memory - it seemed to be about 3 inches long and an inch
wide. Heaven knows how it managed to fly. Calming my nerves in a local
bar, I quizzed the barman. He gave me his best "Crazy English!" look,
shrugged and said "It's a wasp."
"Do they sting?"
"Dunno."
Where
was I? Oh yes, the nests. They were fascinating but very fragile. I
tried to lift them down to display them but they just crumbled to tiny
pieces like burnt paper.
I await instructions about our current visitor - generally, we're live and let live.
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You have more courage about those stingers than I do. They've
always scared me, from childhood. No practical reason why.
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Standing on a beach, wearing a mustard coloured, polo neck, long
sleeved sweater, while Mrs B and the dog were splashing in the sea, I
felt an itch on my upper arm. I scratched it and located a lump which
hadn't been there before. I realised what it was a millisecond before it
stung me. Mrs B was most amused when she saw me wrench off the sweater
and start waving it about. The poor wasp looked in a sorry state by the
time it hit the sand. I didn't let it suffer.
I suppose they'll get their revenge one day. Perhaps the invasion started at tea time today.
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;D
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There
certainly are queen wasps. Usually it is only the queen that survives
the winter by finding a place that is frost free to hide. She emerges in
the spring, finds a nest site and starts to lay there. The new workers
that hatch from those eggs start to make the nest proper. Therefore
yours was probably a queen, awoken by the sudden increase in temperature
deciding to come out to start to look for a nest site.
Unfortunately
most places here in Australia don't get cold enough to kill off
European wasps, so we just get more and more of them. ;D
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We've
had wasps' nests in the loft but of modest proportions, possibly
solitary wasps. We never had a horde of them (not yet) - the house
across the road did.
We were buzzed by an enormous half black, half
yellow insect on a beach near Cannes. I don't suppose it's got any
smaller in my memory - it seemed to be about 3 inches long and an inch
wide. Heaven knows how it managed to fly. Calming my nerves in a local
bar, I quizzed the barman. He gave me his best "Crazy English!" look,
shrugged and said "It's a wasp."
"Do they sting?"
"Dunno."
Where
was I? Oh yes, the nests. They were fascinating but very fragile. I
tried to lift them down to display them but they just crumbled to tiny
pieces like burnt paper.
I await instructions about our current visitor - generally, we're live and let live.
Wasps
nests are indeed beautiful things, but can be very disruptive if they
are in the house or near where people go regularly. We had one in our
front porch and had to put signs up saying use the back door only.
Whether
to kill them or not is a really difficult question. I am definitely
live and let live with most things, and dont use pesticides etc.
However, bee keepers in general hate wasps because they can attack bee
colonies, stealing enough honey and causing enough disruption to cause
the hive to fail in the winter. A hive being bothered by wasps is really
distressing. We keep wasp traps. (Bottles with sticky fermenting fluid
in and narrow entrances) around our hives in bad years to try to reduce
the problem.
On the plus side wasps do take some pests and can be gardeners friends.
Overall
the problems for the bees, plus the risk of a nest somewhere very
awkward, (such as that kitchen light fitting) would I think encourage me
to kill a queen in the house, rather than usher her out which is my
normal route with most insects. I certainly would not leave her there!!!
As far as I know one queen will only set up one colony. She cannot start more than one by laying then moving on.
K
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Overall
the problems for the bees, plus the risk of a nest somewhere very
awkward, (such as that kitchen light fitting) would I think encourage me
to kill a queen in the house, rather than usher her out which is my
normal route with most insects. I certainly would not leave her there!!!
As far as I know one queen will only set up one colony. She cannot start more than one by laying then moving on.
K
Thanks. I think that's what the showbiz industry would call a "mixed review".
I'll give it a couple of days to re-appear before I dismantle the light.
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Overall
the problems for the bees, plus the risk of a nest somewhere very
awkward, (such as that kitchen light fitting) would I think encourage me
to kill a queen in the house, rather than usher her out which is my
normal route with most insects. I certainly would not leave her there!!!
As far as I know one queen will only set up one colony. She cannot start more than one by laying then moving on.
K
Thanks. I think that's what the showbiz industry would call a "mixed review".
I'll give it a couple of days to re-appear before I dismantle the light.
You
could try telling her firmly that it's about to get a lot colder again,
and she might like to reconsider her decision to come out of
hibernation ...
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You
could try telling her firmly that it's about to get a lot colder again,
and she might like to reconsider her decision to come out of
hibernation ...
I'll have to send for Dr. Dolittle ... or St. Francis.
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You
could try telling her firmly that it's about to get a lot colder again,
and she might like to reconsider her decision to come out of
hibernation ...
I'll have to send for Dr. Dolittle ... or St. Francis.
:D :D
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We have a new family member - her name is Bailey, she weighs a
little over 6 pounds. She is blond with one green eye and one blue
eye, and favors her dad. She is the cutest thing and according to
her doctor, she is healthy and right on track.
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Congratulations, Kathy! Good to have such happy news. :D
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Here is with my middle daughter (her nominal master ;D)
(http://i1229.photobucket.com/albums/ee462/Pwendolk/2012-02-21214539.jpg)
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Very pretty.
The dog looks nice too.
I'm glad you posted
the photo. As is my wont, I was trying to compose a reply that could not
be construed as possible to cause offence. Something along the lines of
"blonde? like a saluki or having only two legs"; but now I don't have
to bother. That's a relief.
Whose idea? Whose choice? Whose shoes are to be first sacrifice?
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Well, our oldest daughter wanted to get her tongue pierced (against
my most strenuous objections and which thankfully she can't do because
of the structure of her mouth). While at the piercer, he (the
piercer) received a call from a friend of his, stating he had puppies
that needed homes. Abby (my oldest) volunteered to take them and
find homes for them. She called us saying "I can't get my tongue
pierced and I'm bringing home 5 or 6 puppies." We (my husband and
I) were dismayed. Anyway, she and her friend came to our house and
picked up our middle daughter and left for a pet store - this while we
were at my follow-up appointment for my thing, so my husband and I had
no idea 1) the number of puppies and 2)what was going on. We got
back home and they got back home and as it turns out, there were only 3
puppies, two of which the girls had already found homes for. We
discussed it (with my mother also, who lives in the basement apartment
of our house) and the general consensus was 1) Bailey was too cute for
words and 2) we would take her. I think the first to go should be
my oldest daughter's shoes, since she is the one who started this whole
chain of events.
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Looking at the photo, I can see why you succumbed - and I say that as a cat lover!
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Oh, the boys (our cats Oscar and Marmalade) are just beside
themselves - we have a friend and his two cats staying with us for the
nonce and now the puppies! Oscar can handle this, eventually
;D, but Marmalade is ready to move out. :D
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Bailey is cute, is she going to grow into a medium-size cute or a labrador-size cute? Or shouldn't I ask?
Marmalade
may take a couple of weeks to get used to the change, cats (at least
the ones I had) seem slow to adapt to new additions to the family.
They do come around.
You do have a full house! ;D
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she is a poodle/beagle/pit bull/? mix and our vet thinks she will be medium cute - stocky and about 50lbs.
I know - I can't wait to see who or what shows up on our doorstep next ;D
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Please tell Oscar and Marmalade (great names) that they have my
sympathy at all these invasions, but that I'm sure they'll come out on
top - cats always do.
There is after all no such thing as an under-cat .... :D
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Little big dog. ;D
Cool just probably asleep.
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I passed your sympathies to the boys, and they accepted your sentiments as nothing less than their due - ;D
She
does sleep a lot - her routine is run around frantically; wrestle with
the monster towel; attack the fuzzy shoes; and then BOOM down she
goes :D
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It's all right for some.
My pet wasp was released into the wild
when I was out of the house; and now three teeny tiny ladybirds have
been ejected also. :'(
I'm going to save up for a spider. Mrs B won't go near that.
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;D
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I passed your sympathies to the boys, and they accepted your sentiments as nothing less than their due - ;D
She
does sleep a lot - her routine is run around frantically; wrestle with
the monster towel; attack the fuzzy shoes; and then BOOM down she
goes :D
Great
picture and great story Kathy. Dont get me started on daughters and
tongue piercings, in fact come to think of it I may have sounded off on
the subject before on this forum.
If it is any consolation the
real Tegwen still bounds around for a few minutes then sleeps for a long
time, and she is 10. Fortunately she doesnt chew destructively any
more.
Like yours, my cats still rule.
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Cat??? Strewth - I thought you were talking about your daughter!
:o
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Cat??? Strewth - I thought you were talking about your daughter!
:o
Sorry Steeleye, my fault. Tegwen is in fact my dog, I also have two cats.
Come to think about it the fact about sleeping for a long time is still true, both of my daughter, and my cats.
My avatar is my daughter, made up for a play several years ago.
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I am relieved to see that she (the daughter) no longer 'chew(s) destructively' any more. Didn't bear thinking about.
:o
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I am relieved to see that she (the daughter) no longer 'chew(s) destructively' any more. Didn't bear thinking about.
:o
Does "destructively chewing" chocolate count. If so she still does it!!!
K
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I am relieved to see that she (the daughter) no longer 'chew(s) destructively' any more. Didn't bear thinking about.
:o
Does "destructively chewing" chocolate count. If so she still does it!!!
K
NO! ! ! IT DOES NOT ! ! !
(at least as long as it doesn't interfere with transcribing ;))
P.S. I think that the earlier subject was tattoos.
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There is absolutely nothing
'destructive' or uncouth about chewing chocolate! If it's dark
chocolate, then it's safe to say that she has impeccable taste.
;D
PS Randi_2: We're allowed to stray a little bit off topic - it is getting a bit late down here after all.
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There does seem to be a remarkable similarity between daughters and
critters - and sons, come to think of it - I watch all of them: cats,
daughters, dog, son - and I am reminded of a commercial that ran here
several years ago, the punch line of which was "them chickens ain't
right" - I just substitute the being in question for "chicken" ;D
and truer words have never been spoken! :P
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PS Randi_2: We're allowed to stray a little bit off topic - it is getting a bit late down here after all.
I think you must have misinterpreted something I said - I rarely object to straying off topic (there is a topic in Chat?) and I have not - intentionally - said anything about it here :(
Perhaps you mean
(at least as long as it doesn't interfere with transcribing ;))
I was just joking that eating chocolate is not destructive as long as it doesn't interfere with transcribing ;)
;D :-*
Or probably it is because of this:
I passed your sympathies to the boys, and they accepted your sentiments as nothing less than their due - ;D
She
does sleep a lot - her routine is run around frantically; wrestle with
the monster towel; attack the fuzzy shoes; and then BOOM down she
goes :D
Great picture and great story Kathy. Dont
get me started on daughters and tongue piercings, in fact come to think
of it I may have sounded off on the subject before on this forum.
If
it is any consolation the real Tegwen still bounds around for a few
minutes then sleeps for a long time, and she is 10. Fortunately she
doesnt chew destructively any more.
Like yours, my cats still rule.
I
was just 'replying' to Tegwen. If I remember correctly our previous
discussion was about (daughters and) tattoos rather then tongue
piercings.
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Now I'm really confused, randi_2 ... which probably means it's time I went to bed!
Happy transcribing, shipmates - save a few for me.
:-*
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Now I'm really confused, randi_2 ... which probably means it's time I went to bed!
Happy transcribing, shipmates - save a few for me.
:-*
Short answer: I wasn't scolding anyone ;D
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PS Randi_2: We're allowed to stray a little bit off topic - it is getting a bit late down here after all.
I think you must have misinterpreted something I said - I rarely object to straying off topic (there is a topic in Chat?) and I have not - intentionally - said anything about it here :(
Perhaps you mean
(at least as long as it doesn't interfere with transcribing ;))
I was just joking that eating chocolate is not destructive as long as it doesn't interfere with transcribing ;)
;D :-*
Or probably it is because of this:
I passed your sympathies to the boys, and they accepted your sentiments as nothing less than their due - ;D
She
does sleep a lot - her routine is run around frantically; wrestle with
the monster towel; attack the fuzzy shoes; and then BOOM down she
goes :D
Great picture and great story Kathy. Dont
get me started on daughters and tongue piercings, in fact come to think
of it I may have sounded off on the subject before on this forum.
If
it is any consolation the real Tegwen still bounds around for a few
minutes then sleeps for a long time, and she is 10. Fortunately she
doesnt chew destructively any more.
Like yours, my cats still rule.
I
was just 'replying' to Tegwen. If I remember correctly our previous
discussion was about (daughters and) tattoos rather then tongue
piercings.
Sorry
if I have contributed to any confusion, it wouldnt be the first time.
Kathy's wonderful non shaggy dog story started with her daughter going
to get her tongue pierced.
I do try to keep on topic in most of
the forum, most of the time, but chat is the ideal place to discuss daft
things like tongue piercing, dogs and cats and chocolate all in one
delicious but totally anarchic thread. I love it.
You are
absolutely correct Randi that the tread in which I just managed not to
start a tirade about daughters tongue piercing previously developed from
the subject of signatures on posts, to tattoos on daughters.
http://forum.oldweather.org/index.php?topic=2166.msg29775#msg29775
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Hey!
All that confusion and I wasn't involved.
I must be losing my touch. :(
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We missed you :'(
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We missed you :'(
I just hope your aim doesn't improve.
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;D
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Well, well - I got an interesting email from the team - Philip et.al. - I AM SO EXCITED!! :o 8)
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Yep - the wake-up email from the OW team did whet the appetite for more!
I
went to an opthalmologist yesterday afternoon (just getting something
checked out) and before the examination they put in eye drops to make
the pupils dilate really wide. Wide
pupils let in an awful light of light ... as well as making you look a
bit strange. As it's (sort of) summer here and the sun was
actually out, I was about half-blind by the time I got home - and for a
couple of hours afterwards. If any other OWer goes through this fun
experience, you may find it useful to know that it is still possible to
keep up with your transcribing by pulling the blinds down and wearing
sunglasses in front of the screen. Be warned, however: I got some
fairly strange looks from Lady Steeleye!
;)
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If Lady Steeleye is with you, she is a discerning woman. Don't
worry about it, the worse response will be some teasing comments. ;D
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Yep - the wake-up email from the OW team did whet the appetite for more!
I
went to an opthalmologist yesterday afternoon (just getting something
checked out) and before the examination they put in eye drops to make
the pupils dilate really wide. Wide
pupils let in an awful light of light ... as well as making you look a
bit strange. As it's (sort of) summer here and the sun was
actually out, I was about half-blind by the time I got home - and for a
couple of hours afterwards. If any other OWer goes through this fun
experience, you may find it useful to know that it is still possible to
keep up with your transcribing by pulling the blinds down and wearing
sunglasses in front of the screen. Be warned, however: I got some
fairly strange looks from Lady Steeleye!
;)
Atropine!
Did they advise you to use tissues instead of a handkerchief?
I hope they didn't discover anything undesirable.
Forgot to mention: lovely day here in N W England - sunny, a few fluffy clouds, temp. 15 C.
Probably snow by Sunday.
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Hi Bunts,
He didn't find anything - which was good news.
However, he would like me to have a head scan as well, just to make
sure. The trouble is, if the head scan analysis says 'Nothing was
found', the ambiguity makes it hard to know if that's good news or bad
news!
Cheers
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Hi Bunts,
He
didn't find anything - which was good news. However, he would
like me to have a head scan as well, just to make sure. The
trouble is, if the head scan analysis says 'Nothing was found', the
ambiguity makes it hard to know if that's good news or bad news!
Cheers
Yeah,
I know what you mean. I had a brain scan and had to tell enquirers that
they found nothing. (The response was predictable.) So they did an
angiogram and found that the direction of blood flow was like nothing
they'd seen before. ???
I'll tell you what though, it was
worth it for that anaesthetic. The anaesthetist injected a small amount
and asked how I felt. "Wow, just great! Where can I get some?" His reply
was "Yes, it's good stuff. Here's the rest, sleep well."
I woke up four hours later with vampire punctures on my neck.
They decided it was a virus. Hope yours is nothing worse.
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Hi Bunts,
He
didn't find anything - which was good news. However, he would
like me to have a head scan as well, just to make sure. The
trouble is, if the head scan analysis says 'Nothing was found', the
ambiguity makes it hard to know if that's good news or bad news!
Cheers
Yeah,
I know what you mean. I had a brain scan and had to tell enquirers that
they found nothing. (The response was predictable.) So they did an
angiogram and found that the direction of blood flow was like nothing
they'd seen before. ???
I'll tell you what though, it was
worth it for that anaesthetic. The anaesthetist injected a small amount
and asked how I felt. "Wow, just great! Where can I get some?" His reply
was "Yes, it's good stuff. Here's the rest, sleep well."
I woke up four hours later with vampire punctures on my neck.
They decided it was a virus. Hope yours is nothing worse.
I
only had a general anaesthetic once, when I had a broken nose reset.
The actual injection into the vein was excrutiating. It felt like hot
needles flowing up my arm, inside. I said to the nurse, What on earth
was that? She said, just the anaesthetic. I said well it is not b......
work... and didnt manage to get the rest of the sentence out before I
was out cold.
Waking up after that operation is one of the most unpleasant memories I have but I wont go into details on that.
As if all that wasnt enough the nose popped back out a few days later and I still walk round corners in a straight line.
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Waking up after that operation is one of the most unpleasant memories I have but I wont go into details on that.
As if all that wasnt enough the nose popped back out a few days later and I still walk round corners in a straight line.
I was told off. They claimed I'd been singing rugby songs.
You didn't give them a second chance, using stronger scaffolding?
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Waking up after that operation is one of the most unpleasant memories I have but I wont go into details on that.
As if all that wasnt enough the nose popped back out a few days later and I still walk round corners in a straight line.
I was told off. They claimed I'd been singing rugby songs.
You didn't give them a second chance, using stronger scaffolding?
I dont think I misbehaved while under anaesthetic. At least they didnt tell me about it if I did.
I
certainly wasnt going to let them anywhere near that nose again after
the first one. The only scaffolding involved in the first op was the
pole they hit it back with while I was out, which may have been why it
popped back again. There was no breathing impairment so I decided that
the minor detriment to my otherwise perfectly symetrically beautiful
features (not!!) was worth it not to go through the waking up process
after the operation again.
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My first time under anesthesia, I dreamed I was at a concert and
they woke my up just as it was Rod Stewart's time to perform - I told
the nurse to let me sleep so I could see his performance ;D
This
last time, the anesthesiologist said he was putting a mask on me, and
that is the last thing I remember - I don't think I even got to count
backwards from 100 >:( :P . I dreamed, but I don't
remember what it was about.
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My first time under anesthesia, I dreamed I was at a concert and they woke my up just as it was Rod Stewart's time to perform
Obviously a very humane establishment.
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Hi
For those kind enough to ask about my bees I have some bad
news. I checked both hives today. for the first time this year and
neither survived. As I think I explained I was worried about them, in
the autumn, but gave them plenty of sugar in the hope that it would see
them through. Sadly in both cases there was sugar left, indicating I
think that the last cold spell may have finished them off, although both
had survived lower temperatures last winter.
K
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Hi
For
those kind enough to ask about my bees I have some bad news. I checked
both hives today. for the first time this year and neither survived. As I
think I explained I was worried about them, in the autumn, but gave
them plenty of sugar in the hope that it would see them through. Sadly
in both cases there was sugar left, indicating I think that the last
cold spell may have finished them off, although both had survived lower
temperatures last winter.
K
That's sad news indeed, but something beyond your control. Some small consolation.
So sorry.
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I'm sorry to hear about the bees - I hope you get some more in the spring -
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I'm sorry to hear about the bees too. That a hard blow after all the worrying and the re-queening.
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Good morning Randi, good morning OW.
Sad to hear about your bees Keith. I hope you have better luck if you decide to try again.
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Good morning Caro, good morning OW. ;D
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Hi
For
those kind enough to ask about my bees I have some bad news. I checked
both hives today. for the first time this year and neither survived. As I
think I explained I was worried about them, in the autumn, but gave
them plenty of sugar in the hope that it would see them through. Sadly
in both cases there was sugar left, indicating I think that the last
cold spell may have finished them off, although both had survived lower
temperatures last winter.
K
Sorry
about your bees - are you linked to a local BK assocaition in the
UK(?) where you can get some nucs to restart this spring (rather than a
dodgy swarm mid-year?
Good luck C
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Really sorry to hear about the bees, Keith.
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Thanks all for your kind thoughts.
I will have to decide
fairly soon whether I will take on another nuc or not this spring. I am a
member of the local beekeeping group so have contacts there that I
could get a nuc from if I decide to go straight back to it.
I
agree with the thoughts about taking on a dodgy swarm late. Effectively I
think that is what may have happened to one of my hives.
All the best
Keith
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I meant to post a link a couple of days ago, but forgot
Australia
is supposed to be the driest inhabited continent, but it does rain
sometimes. Cooyar, a small town in SE Queensland managed 181 mm of
rain (about 7 inches in pounds, shillings and pence) in 1 hour on the
24th (or 25th) Feb. I reckon it would have been hard to stand
upright.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-02-25/rain-bomb-sweeps-south-east-qld/3852362
(http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-02-25/rain-bomb-sweeps-south-east-qld/3852362)
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I think that would be at least a capital R with double underlining
and a separate note of heavy rain on the right hand side of the page.
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... and 'HMS' changed to 'HMS/M', which I thinks is the notation for His Majesty's Submarine.
;D
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The truth about the recent cold and white stuff?
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2012/02/120227111052.htm
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And the snow continues to fall on the Seattle area, which is
ridiculous because everyone here knows darn well the baseball teams have
begun spring training.
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I'm CRUSHED - or at least SQUEEZED at bit! Came back to work on the
logs of Dalhousie and I'm told the cruise is FINISHED! I figured
it must be getting 'close' since every time I came back a month or two
had been jumped where when I first started it was MAYBE a day if I
wasn't there daily. I found a 'new' ship (Hood) but I kinda feel
like I lost a friend!!
Hey Bunts: Corduroy pillows are making headlines!
Blessings, Dean
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hello, howdy, hi, aloha, g'day, hola, salut, bonjour, bonjorno, guten tag, konichiwa, sawadee, privyet, servus, kalimera!
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Enjoy the Hood, Dean. To my mind she is still the most
beautiful warship ever built, and she's on her world cruise of 1924,
currently in the Panama Canal and open to visitors. Plenty of
places to see, which is a pleasant change from HMS St George which had
an excellent view of Salonika for a very long time ... although the
handwriting was very stress-free.
HorusKhan: may I respectfully suggest that you add "G'day" to your list of greetings?
Cheers,
Steeleye
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It is done :)
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Technically it's konnichiwa...
And good luck on the Hood. The writing looks a little tough for me. ;D
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Hey Bunts: Corduroy pillows are making headlines!
Blessings, Dean
;D
Being faced with an apparent nonsequitur, that took a few of seconds of rigid concentration.
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Hey, tastiger.
Welcome back!
Long time no sea. ;D
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Hey, tastiger.
Welcome back!
Long time no sea. ;D
;D
Well, I've been lingering around. I haven't been as active as usual, but I've been following things now and then. :)
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Good morning OW and hapus Dydd Gŵyl Dewi. :D
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After the coolest summer for several decades, I thought that autumn
might see a change to our usual weather for this time of year ... blue
skies, pleasant sunshine. I don't think so! By late
afternoon on 1 March we had passed our annual rainfall for the
month with plenty more to come. I returned from my afternoon walk
with both joggers full of water. A nice hot shower and back to the
logs of HMS Hood on her 1923/24 world cruise and all was right with the
world again.
::)
When I tried to post this, the
connection to the internet fell over for roughly the tenth time in the
last 24 hours (usually at the moment that I click on "I've finished with
this page"). This often happens when the weather goes a bit wet,
which says little for the robustness of the 'modern' communication
systems here. Just as well that I don't need a reliable internet
connection to protect me from an incoming nuclear attack.
:o
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If you want a chilling version of a nuclear attack get hold of Nevil
Shute's 'On the Beach'. OK, the technology is dated but the
insight into real people lives with you.
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Good morning OW and hapus Dydd Gŵyl Dewi. :D
Didn't know you are fluent in Welsh! :D
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Enjoy
the Hood, Dean. To my mind she is still the most beautiful
warship ever built, and she's on her world cruise of 1924, currently in
the Panama Canal and open to visitors. Plenty of places to see,
which is a pleasant change from HMS St George which had an excellent
view of Salonika for a very long time ... although the handwriting was
very stress-free.
HorusKhan: may I respectfully suggest that you add "G'day" to your list of greetings?
Cheers,
Steeleye
I
STILL remember being a youngster and my grandfather taking me to see
the 'Sink the Bismark' movie. It left a lasting impression!!
As to 'moving around' I agree!! I have been on HMS Dalhousie in Basra FOREVER! Cruise finished so now to the Hood.
Blessings, Dean
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Hey Bunts: Corduroy pillows are making headlines!
Blessings, Dean
;D
Being faced with an apparent nonsequitur, that took a few of seconds of rigid concentration.
Thought you might enjoy that one!
BTW - Dyslexics Have More Nuf.
Blessings, Dean
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Schmallenberg virus: Climate 'raising UK disease risk' (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-17223445)
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Did ya'll see... broke the record for most on-line: March 2 :D
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Ships at sea CREATING weather
http://www.ouramazingplanet.com/2551-earth-images-march-2-2012.html
Pacific Cloud Plumes
From NOAA's Environmental Visualiation Laboratory:
As
cargo ships steam across the oceans, the tiny aerosol particles in
their exhaust act as seeds around which moisture in the atmosphere can
condense. Occasionally this results in ship tracks becoming visible in
cloud imagery. Taken on February 21, 2012, this GOES-15 visible image
shows such tracks, some of which are 1,000 miles long.
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Leelaht: WOW! The whole thing is quite good, but the
one you quoted was a mind-blower. Cool link. Thanks!
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I'd obviously seen the contrails with aeroplanes but ships!
Well, if we want to reduce our effects on the planet we'd better get
back to sail.
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Very interesting stuff. Thanks for that, leelaht.
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I'd
obviously seen the contrails with aeroplanes but ships! Well, if
we want to reduce our effects on the planet we'd better get back to
sail.
I
agree and I am (a sailor) Bristol/Alberg 27 berthed on Lake Ontario,
USA. I've owned her since 1980. Pic is some 'high level' work on the
mast.
Blessings, dean
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wow - I just read an article about all the spiders moving away from
the flooding in Australia - Steeleye I hope you are not affected, as
well as your family, Caro -
That would really freak me out! :o
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Spiders spook me out more than the flooding, Kathy. As we live
on a third floor the flooding would need to get pretty serious to cause
us stress - thanks for asking! Yesterday we had a call from my
daughter (29, would you believe) at work, asking one of us to go to her
house to get rid of a large spider on the outside of her bedroom
window. As I am almost as arachnaphobic as she is, Lady Steeleye
volunteered to do the deed.
The weather here is still all over
the place, and it was Sydney's turn to get dumped on from a great height
at peak hour this morning. I also heard yesterday that the winter
in the US and North Atlantic has been unusually mild and that there has
been a large number of dolphins dying in Chesapeake Bay. Is there
anywhere that is 'normal' at the moment?
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No, I think we may have to re-think normal - the Midwest and South
(US) seem to be having violent storms earlier than normal this year -
Spring tends to be chaotic here, but these storms started at the end of
February/beginning of March. I don't remember them being this
early.
I also read today that a massive solar storm will
be hitting the earth early today - We may be able to see the Northern
Lights - Janet in Chicago should be able to 8). I wonder if
Old Weather will go down :o
Spiders don't bother me in
general - I'd rather have them than the bugs they eat, but as my son put
it "Everything in Australia wants to kill you", so I think I'd be a
little concerned about the spiders there. ;D
Kathy
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Yeah, right. ::)
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Spiders
don't bother me in general - I'd rather have them than the bugs they
eat, but as my son put it "Everything in Australia wants to kill you",
so I think I'd be a little concerned about the spiders there. ;D
Tell your son that we are friendlier than that!
:o
The
tornados over your way certainly hit the news here last week. We
get the occasional piddly little one here and people get quite
excited. I imagine our news reports would go completely over the
top if we had a proper one. You are in the E/NE, aren't you -
tornado-free I believe?
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Good one, Bunts, and I bet it wasn't at Murmansk. I came
across a barometer reading of 80.something inches on the Renown (In
Colombo) earlier this evening. I think that the heat and humidity
must have been really getting to the log-keeper.
Actually, the
crew on the Renown having been having an excellent time in recent weeks -
a sightseeing tour to Delhi/Agra while they were in Bombay, picnic and
football parties while in Colombo. Most of us would have to pay
for those little luxuries, although we probably wouldn't get shouted at
by the officers.
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Yes - I live in what we lovingly refer to as the Northeast Corridor -
in general, where I am, we don't get tornadoes, but we have had 3 or 4
over the years. I remember (will never forget actually ;D),
one particularly fun day - there was a rather severe storm and I had to
pick my children up from school. I had the news radio on because
of the storm and I accidentally turned it off. When I turned it
back on, the Emergency Broadcast System was activated as a tornado was
headed our way and we could see the rain and the stoplight beginning to
blow sideways. We made it home ok - but it took a while for our
nerves to settle down :P
I'll pass the good word along to my son - ;D
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Thanks for the reminder, Steeleye. ::)
HMS Mantis, Yangtze River, March 1921.
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Good morning fellow sailors -
The glass is rising, the skies are clear, and the winds are fair this fine day!
ta
Kathy
PS I love my new ship - Santa finally brought me what I wanted for Christmas ;D
PPS
I can't believe I'm so chipper this morning - a cat version of WWIII
was fought under my bed at 5:30 this morning - on a Saturday no
less! :P Our cats are getting most annoyed with the cats we
are hosting (they keep escaping from the room we have them in and
invading home territory :o )
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Kathy, have you thought that cats might have similar instincts to
rats and be being trying to escape a sinking ship? Have you
checked the water level outside this morning?
:o
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We have sunshine and cool temps - nary a cloud in the sky :D
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PPS
I can't believe I'm so chipper this morning - a cat version of WWIII
was fought under my bed at 5:30 this morning - on a Saturday no
less! :P
Another
reason for choosing our "divan" style of bed: about one inch ground
clearance - no room for stuff underneath and little space for dust to
get in. ;)
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It's amazing what small spaces cats can squeeze themselves into if
they really want to - and then it's much harder to extricate them ....
:D
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It's
amazing what small spaces cats can squeeze themselves into if they
really want to - and then it's much harder to extricate them .... :D
You'd need a steamroller to get their heads into a 1" high gap. Now, there's an idea ...
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It's
amazing what small spaces cats can squeeze themselves into if they
really want to - and then it's much harder to extricate them .... :D
You'd need a steamroller to get their heads into a 1" high gap. Now, there's an idea ...
Calling the RSPCA as I type!
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It's
amazing what small spaces cats can squeeze themselves into if they
really want to - and then it's much harder to extricate them .... :D
You'd need a steamroller to get their heads into a 1" high gap. Now, there's an idea ...
Calling the RSPCA as I type!
;D
That reminds me; I got a letter from them the other day.
I expect it's a commendation, but it may be a receipt.
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Here's a picture of the Cutty Sark as it looked last month - getting it ready for the Olympics!
(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7037/6972976357_ed7a14feca_z.jpg)
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She should look wonderful by then. They've done a really good job on her.
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Good morning OW.
Great pic, thanks Geoff. She really is looking good. :)
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Hmmm,
Made me think about the latest on Lord Nelson's flagship, HMS Victory, at Portsmouth.
For non-UK folks, this was in the UK news last week.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-hampshire-17273596 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-hampshire-17273596)
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3,000,000
Congratulations to Old Weather BOINC Team!
We now have over 3 million credits, and more than 1.5 million of those are on the Climate Prediction project!
http://boincstats.com/stats/boinc_team_graph.php?pr=bo&teamcpid=458b2e76b918586f0d0d1a65026f9317
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So few and so much. 8)
BRAVO :D
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Hey, well done us! Good morning crew.
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Morning OW, quite foggy in London this morning.
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Hi Geoff, good morning OW. Foggy south of London too.
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Up here we have the cloud we've had all week. Tomorrow our
friends in the Met Office promise us rain but they are suggesting a fine
and sunny week end. They'll probably change their minds on Friday
night!
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Morning all -
we have had great weather all week - should be another nice one - near 80 degrees and sunny.
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Down this end of the planet it looks like our autumn might turn out
to be the summer that we didn't have. Better late than
never! Mid 20s (C!) and above, and it hasn't rained for nearly a
week. My joggers are dry at last. Enjoy the day shipmates.
;D
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If you are interested in submarines: THE FIRST SUBMARINE - Peru
(http://silentseawolvesmsw.devhub.com/blog/463946-the-first-submarine-peru/)
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Good morning all. Happy Saint Patrick's day. (http://www.floridasquaredance.com/dixiedancers/images/clover.gif)
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Good morning all. Happy Saint Patrick's day. (http://www.floridasquaredance.com/dixiedancers/images/clover.gif)
;D Happy Saint Patrick's to you and all your shipmates . ;D
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And a good day to you all.
I'm going to watch them dye the Chicago River green on TV, I think. Too big a crowd for the parade for me.
(http://www.directsmiley.com/cat/8/8_9_30.gif)
Yes,
they really do. The plumbers union started it by accident and
still do it, at their own expense - no tax dollars. Food coloring,
of course.
(http://www.bellcountypubliclibraries.org/mar12greenriver.jpg)
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Happy St. Paddy's Day - we are off tonight to drink green beer and eat BBQ ;D
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We've had a lovely sunny day up here in the West of Scotland.
What a difference from last week's cloud AND we are supposed to get
another tomorrow. Fingers (when not transcribing) crossed.
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This is the 5th day in March in Chicago with high temps in the 70s -
2 of them up to 81f. If the forecasters are right and it happens
again tomorrow, we will set a new all-time record for the number of
consecutive warm March days. ;D
Flat out beautiful weather.
My daytime transcriptions have temporarily evaporated, walking and
reading on the lake front is much nicer.
(http://www.smileyvault.com/albums/emoticons/object/object-emoticon-0012.gif)
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This
is the 5th day in March in Chicago with high temps in the 70s - 2 of
them up to 81f. If the forecasters are right and it happens again
tomorrow, we will set a new all-time record for the number of
consecutive warm March days. ;D
Flat out beautiful weather.
My daytime transcriptions have temporarily evaporated, walking and
reading on the lake front is much nicer.
(http://www.smileyvault.com/albums/emoticons/object/object-emoticon-0012.gif)
We
are about the same in western New York State. Went up to my boat to
pull the tarps and begin to ready for the season. UNHEARD OF this early
in March!! 75 at home 50 at the Lake with fog but GREAT
nonetheless!!http://forum.oldweather.org/Smileys/default/shocked.gif
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We
are about the same in western New York State. Went up to my boat to
pull the tarps and begin to ready for the season. UNHEARD OF this early
in March!! 75 at home 50 at the Lake with fog but GREAT
nonetheless!!http://forum.oldweather.org/Smileys/default/shocked.gif
Dean, M'Boy, ;D
Has
the heat got to your machine (did you say it's a Mac?) or are you right
clicking on the smileys instead of left clicking? (Or whatever the Mac
equivalent is.)
Hope you don't mind my asking.
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Evenin', all. :)
Here's a strange article you may enjoy. http://www.cnn.com/2012/03/17/opinion/urry-moon-titanic/index.html?hpt=hp_t3
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Thanks DJ, interesting theory.
My wife was a Samaritan and
used to spend long nights talking to the distressed and suicidal. She
and all the Samaritans were convinced that there were more, and their
disturbances were greater at every full moon. She had more than one
particularly bad night when she would relise that it was not an ordinary
night and check whether it was a full moon, and it was.
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As a firm disbeliever in homoeopathy, fung shui and other things that I cannot remember, it pains me to admit that:
"There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio,
Than are dreamt of in your philosophy."
However, when empirical evidence interlocks with theory, some conclusions become compelling ...
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I seem to remember reading an article that speculated that, just as
the moon causes tides on Earth, so to it caused tides in our bodies (we
are mostly water, after all), and that is why we were affected by the
full moon.
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I
seem to remember reading an article that speculated that, just as the
moon causes tides on Earth, so to it caused tides in our bodies (we are
mostly water, after all), and that is why we were affected by the full
moon.
Sounds
unlikely to me. Water in our bodies flows far less easily that water in
the ocean, and I wouldn't think that the gravity gradient from head to
toe is that significant. Then too, if we feel tidal effects during the full moon, we also feel them daily (even if slightly less strongly).
Maybe it's just the light keeping some people awake. It doesn't seem to have any effect on me ;D
As far as the icebergs, that sounds interesting - IF the prediction tests out...
One
thing this new theory predicts: There should be records of
exceptionally high tides near Newfoundland and Labrador in January 1912.
This is the hallmark of a proper theory: it makes predictions that can
then be tested.
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We
are about the same in western New York State. Went up to my boat to
pull the tarps and begin to ready for the season. UNHEARD OF this early
in March!! 75 at home 50 at the Lake with fog but GREAT
nonetheless!!http://forum.oldweather.org/Smileys/default/shocked.gif
Dean, M'Boy, ;D
Has
the heat got to your machine (did you say it's a Mac?) or are you right
clicking on the smileys instead of left clicking? (Or whatever the Mac
equivalent is.)
Hope you don't mind my asking.
Bunts:
It's
a Mac but that isn't the 'problem!' I don't know WHAT it is. Sometimes I
drag the smiley, it SHOWS http code and it comes out a smiley and
sometimes it shows up as the http code!! Make NO sense!! Must be
gremlins, or something!! I'll try some other moves or just give up and
quit with the smileys!!
Blessings, Dean
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I don't know how much there is to the moon theory, but I do know that I've seen some things that make me wonder.
Back
when I was playing music for a living we always had an all hands
meeting on the day of a full moon show. Just making sure all bases
were covered, like first aid, evacuation plans, assigning different
people tasks like "guarding the equipment in a riot", etc. And
now, looking back on the four or five worst disaster nights on the road,
three of them were when the moon was full. Which sounds like it
was just one day from 50/50, but you have to recalculate with the
percentage of nights that are NOT a full moon, and that makes the case
for it a little more compelling. Also, a friend from my home town,
who was a cop for twenty-some years, says they always had that in their
briefing. "Full moon tonight; watch out for crazies." The
skeptic in me still doesn't really buy it, despite the possible
evidence.
It's an interesting thing to ponder, either way.
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This programme is very popular in the UK. I wonder how well it will travel?
I have no other information:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b019rlp1
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It's
a Mac but that isn't the 'problem!' I don't know WHAT it is. Sometimes I
drag the smiley, it SHOWS http code and it comes out a smiley and
sometimes it shows up as the http code!! Make NO sense!! Must be
gremlins, or something!! I'll try some other moves or just give up and
quit with the smileys!!
Dean,
I've never tried to drag the smileys - I don't know what that means to
the computer. I leave the cursor from my typing right where it is
and tap my desired smiley once with the mouse cursor. Or just type
the code, if I know it. ":)" is :) and ";D" is ;D and "???"
is ???
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Morning OW, bright and sunny in east London this morning :)
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Evening OWers. All is good in the planet's nether regions.
On
returning to the Renown this evening, I find I have a new log keeper
who is addicted to writing in a style that could perhaps be described as
'pretentiously ornate'. Check out the 'No 3 Basin Portsmouth' at
the top of the page and the '30.31' at midnight:
https://s3.amazonaws.com/oldweather/ADM53-82387/0053_0.jpg (https://s3.amazonaws.com/oldweather/ADM53-82387/0053_0.jpg)
Life
on the Renown in Portsmouth for the past couple of months has been so
mundane that he is possibly looking to keep himself entertained.
;)
...and,
on the next day, he was so distracted that he couldn't be bothered to
fill in the date or the location - just a bunch of weather obs.
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Good morning/evening Steeleye and Geoff.
The sun is shining in Surrey too, after an early frost.
Your logkeeper seems to be keeping you entertained Steeleye. :)
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I'm not sure about 'entertained', Caro, but the OW team are going to
have fun fixing this lot up - he averages about 3-4 obvious observation
errors per page (which I transcribe faithfully, of course). The
latest? An air pressure of 10.6", and a series of pressures where
he has decided to delete the zero after the decimal point in the
pressure (30.01 becomes 30.1, 30.06 becomes 30.6, etc). I wonder
how long it will be before the Captain 'Has occasion to reprimand Lieut
So-and-so for dereliction of duty.' ?
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I don't know how much there is to the moon theory, but I do know that I've seen some things that make me wonder.
Back
when I was playing music for a living we always had an all hands
meeting on the day of a full moon show. Just making sure all bases
were covered, like first aid, evacuation plans, assigning different
people tasks like "guarding the equipment in a riot", etc. And
now, looking back on the four or five worst disaster nights on the road,
three of them were when the moon was full. Which sounds like it
was just one day from 50/50, but you have to recalculate with the
percentage of nights that are NOT a full moon, and that makes the case
for it a little more compelling. Also, a friend from my home town,
who was a cop for twenty-some years, says they always had that in their
briefing. "Full moon tonight; watch out for crazies." The
skeptic in me still doesn't really buy it, despite the possible
evidence.
It's an interesting thing to ponder, either way.
As
a teacher of middle school (Science 5/6) for 38 years I can tell you
FOR CERTAIN - any teacher worth their salt can tell a full moon day with
out reference to a calendar!!!
I'll
work on it. I've been having some 'issues' with the mouse and
think there may be a bad switch. I'm usually reasonably computer
competent as I served on the Natl AppleWorks User's Group Volunteer Help
Desk for the last 20 years.
Blessings, dean
;D
It's
a Mac but that isn't the 'problem!' I don't know WHAT it is. Sometimes I
drag the smiley, it SHOWS http code and it comes out a smiley and
sometimes it shows up as the http code!! Make NO sense!! Must be
gremlins, or something!! I'll try some other moves or just give up and
quit with the smileys!!
Dean,
I've never tried to drag the smileys - I don't know what that means to
the computer. I leave the cursor from my typing right where it is
and tap my desired smiley once with the mouse cursor. Or just type
the code, if I know it. ":)" is :) and ";D" is ;D and "???"
is ???
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It's a Mac but that isn't the 'problem!'
Blessings, dean
;D
I didn't intend to imply that the Mac was a problem (apart from paying for one!) merely enquiring.
I'll
work on it. I've been having some 'issues' with the mouse and
think there may be a bad switch. I'm usually reasonably computer
competent as I served on the Natl AppleWorks User's Group Volunteer Help
Desk for the last 20 years.
Oops. ::)
That's me told. :-X
Apology from an idiot novice. (I don't mean an inexperienced idiot - I'm fully qualified.)
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Full Moon - but full of what?
http://uk.news.yahoo.com/stunning-nasa-video-shows-how-the-moon-evolved-from-a-flaming-ball-of-fire.html
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Green cheese, of course!
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Green cheese, of course!
That would make "A Grand Day Out"!
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2838756075788433299
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It's a Mac but that isn't the 'problem!'
Blessings, dean
;D
I didn't intend to imply that the Mac was a problem (apart from paying for one!) merely enquiring.
I'll
work on it. I've been having some 'issues' with the mouse and
think there may be a bad switch. I'm usually reasonably computer
competent as I served on the Natl AppleWorks User's Group Volunteer Help
Desk for the last 20 years.
Oops. ::)
That's me told. :-X
Apology from an idiot novice. (I don't mean an inexperienced idiot - I'm fully qualified.)
In
the US most of education went Apple early on so I got launched a
loooooooooonng time ago and stayed there!Initial cost is higher but over
the long haul the maintenance/ support costs are less so it balances
out. The world seems to be optimised for PC's and we mac folks sometimes
have to find 'work arounds' for internet things. I'm usually pretty
good. I have changed the mouse, found some green cheese, and may have
solved the emoticon issue. ;D Besides - how would normal people
know they were normal if it weren't for the rest of us!! :D ;D
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how would normal people know they were normal if it weren't for the rest of us!! :D ;D
;D
# If I can help somebody as I pass along ...
Then my living shall not be in vain. #
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did it taste like Wensleydale?
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I would expect more like Stilton, possibly really ripe Stilton.
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Every so often, something happens that makes me think that the world
is a very small place, when enough time passes. At a charity
fundraiser last weekend I was talking with a Scots lady who I have known
for about 20 years - she was a librarian in the place where we both
worked for a long time. After a little while, we got around to the
topic of the migration to Australia that we both made, way, way
back. It then turned out that we had both traveled on the same
ship (the Fairstar). A bit more talking, particularly about a
fearful storm in the Bay of Biscay, and we realised that we had both
been on the same voyage of the Fairstar, more than 47 years ago.
8)
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What an amazing story, Steeleye. ;D
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:o 8)
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Good morning Randi and guests. :)
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Good morning everyone -
hope everyone has a good day :D
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'Had' in my case - the day was finished off with a delightful dinner
at our daughter's house in honour of our daughter-in-law's birthday a
week ago. Life is very good when your offspring have learned how
to cook well and all a parent has to do is bring a pleasant bottle of
grape pressings .... actually, life is rather good regardless of
their cooking abilities.
Happy transcribing shipmates; this tired, well-fed sailor is off to bed.
:D
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I agree - I have been very lucky and my life is good
Sleep tight and pleasant dreams!
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Beautiful spring weather here in Oxfordshire, and the days are getting longer - wonderful time of the year.
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Beautiful spring weather here in Oxfordshire, and the days are getting longer - wonderful time of the year.
http://forum.oldweather.org/index.php?topic=5.msg35694#msg35694 ;)
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Of course I will .... ;D
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https://s3.amazonaws.com/oldweather/ADM53-80479/0004_0.jpg
HMS Marazion frequently has an entry such as that at 6:30: "Hands fall in..."
But no one ever seems to fish them out... ;D
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On one ship I had:
Hands fall in rigged bath
What a dirty trick ;) ;D
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https://s3.amazonaws.com/oldweather/ADM53-80479/0004_0.jpg
HMS Marazion frequently has an entry such as that at 6:30: "Hands fall in..."
But no one ever seems to fish them out... ;D
Just had 'C of E Party fall in' - a mass baptism perhaps? :D
https://s3.amazonaws.com/oldweather/ADM53-80479/0010_0.jpg
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;D
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Southampton - Hands holystoning deck. FIRST time I've ever seen this
other than on the old Square Riggers. Didn't know they did this on
'modern' ships!
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Southampton
- Hands holystoning deck. FIRST time I've ever seen this other than on
the old Square Riggers. Didn't know they did this on 'modern' ships!
I
think it was practised on all ships with wooden, or wooden-clad, decks
to give the appearance of being clean; all that coaling would take its
toll.
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Southampton
- Hands holystoning deck. FIRST time I've ever seen this other than on
the old Square Riggers. Didn't know they did this on 'modern' ships!
I
think it was practised on all ships with wooden, or wooden-clad, decks
to give the appearance of being clean; all that coaling would take its
toll.
Never
occurred to me she would have wooden or wood clad decks! I guess I
should take more time to read about the ship before I transcribe the
logs! Learn something new every day!! ;D ;)
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Good Morning all -
For all the Thomas Covenant fans out there, we are definitely in a Green Sun (fertile sun)! :o
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Good morning OW. Fog rolling in here.
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Glorious sun (again!) this morning. It is short sleeve weather
and I almost wished I'd taken the sun block yesterday. I'm
enjoying it but we had a lovely spring last year followed by a dull,
cool, miserable summer so I hope the climate isn't doing a repeat trick.
It looks as if we could have another day, or possibly two, before the
cloud returns.
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... and greetings from the evening shift. We had a beautiful
day, maximum of 23C, almost cloudless and windless. It's great to
be alive - a state that is enhanced by retirement (yay!) and good
shipmates.
;D ;D ;D
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In case the email that was just sent out by the Old Weather Community has not made it to everyone, the text is as follows:
Greetings.
We've
talked a lot on the blog and in the forums about the science side of
oldWeather - the hard numbers for pressure, wind speed, temperature and
the rest. But of course the history side of the project is just as
important - the story of each ship, as told in the log, is a unique
historical record which we need to preserve and use.
Gordon
Smith, of the website Naval-History.net (http://www.naval-history.net/)
is leading the process of converting the events records we've collected
into ship histories. These ship histories include all the transcribed
events day-by-day, and allow everybody to follow the actions of the
ships as described in the terse but fascinating style we're used to
seeing in the logs. We've not converted the records for all of the ships
yet, but if you're interested in Acacia, Cochrane, Eskimo, Goliath,
M.25, Saxon, Warrego or any of the other 50-odd already converted, you
can read the histories already at
http://www.naval-history.net/OWShips-LogBooksWW1.htm. And if you
favourite ship is not done yet, check back soon, more are being
completed all the time.
Philip and the oldWeather team.
P.S.
It's not only the Earth that has weather - there are storms on the sun
too, and they'd rate a Beaufort force much higher than 12. You can help
to track solar storms and their effect on the earth through the
Zooniverse project Solar Stormwatch
(https://www.zooniverse.org/project/solarstormwatch).
I've
had a look at the www.naval-history.net/OWShips-LogBooksWW1.htm page.
It's interesting to see how the 'Events' information is being posted
with the links to the logs. This gives me a better idea of which
remarks I think I will enter in the future.
8)
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Yes, it gives you more incentive to pick out interesting remarks.
They're going to have a chuckle when they come accross one of my remarks
for the Moorhen. I misread "milk" as "hulk" the first time I came
across it. I wrote: "1 tin hulk condemned and destroyed" (You have
to admit that condemning a hulk sounds more interesting than condemning
milk ;D). Perhaps we will read in the newspapers about a
rash of tin hulks having been destroyed in the West River near Samchui
in 1920s and thousands of scavangers will flock to the site hoping to
make a fortune. ;D
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I imagine that milk would have to be severely on the nose for the RN to condemn it!
:o
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I'd been recording a lot of things giving a picture of daily life. I
started wondering if anyone would see it - I was afraid people would
only search for names. I am glad to see that anyone can come along and
look at our work.
I also appreciate the links to the actual
pages. That way, if someone finds our transcriptions interesting they
can look at the original for more details (and admire out decipherment!
;)).
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Yes, it's really encouraging to see what's already been achieved on
this side of the project, and definitely an encouragement to go on
searching out the interesting (or just typical) entries.
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I'd
been recording a lot of things giving a picture of daily life. I
started wondering if anyone would see it - I was afraid people would
only search for names. I am glad to see that anyone can come along and
look at our work.
I also appreciate the links to the actual
pages. That way, if someone finds our transcriptions interesting they
can look at the original for more details (and admire out decipherment!
;)).
And ...
in at least one of my entries ... a blob: :-[
HMS M25 "Other: 4.25 Received 2 bafs mail " which I have now, naughtily, amended.
<whistle nonchalantly>
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Great Work!
I do have one suggestion regarding the entries that have not been edited.
I
think that it might be clearer if each transcription was presented
separately. When they are merged it can be confusing whether something
happened multiple times or whether it was transcribed multiple times.
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So do the non-weather entries have to be transcribed 3 times also,
in order to appear, or does each unique entry get incorporated into the
larger record?
Inquiring minds want to know...
C.
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Great Work!
I do have one suggestion regarding the entries that have not been edited.
I
think that it might be clearer if each transcription was presented
separately. When they are merged it can be confusing whether something
happened multiple times or whether it was transcribed multiple times.
This
is the editor's chance to improve and correct all the errors and
stupidities we've been faithfully describing. :) So YES, do
merge all 3 transcriptions and make them a single verbal picture.
You get to choose/combine them to get the most interesting. And
spell out all the abbreviations we've been having to learn. But do
retain the clipped naval style and vocabulary.
This is also the
chance to add the editor's comments, within reason, everyone's been
wanting to throw in. Put them in brackets. I added the links
to the contemporaneous newspaper articles to sloop Torch's log when she
logged a police action in Vanuatu and that extra info was gladly
accepted.
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Great Work!
I do have one suggestion regarding the entries that have not been edited.
I
think that it might be clearer if each transcription was presented
separately. When they are merged it can be confusing whether something
happened multiple times or whether it was transcribed multiple times.
This
is the editor's chance to improve and correct all the errors and
stupidities we've been faithfully describing. :) So YES, do
merge all 3 transcriptions and make them a single verbal picture.
You get to choose/combine them to get the most interesting. And
spell out all the abbreviations we've been having to learn. But do
retain the clipped naval style and vocabulary.
This is also the
chance to add the editor's comments, within reason, everyone's been
wanting to throw in. Put them in brackets. I added the links
to the contemporaneous newspaper articles to sloop Torch's log when she
logged a police action in Vanuatu and that extra info was gladly
accepted.
I am all for the editor merging the 3 transcriptions, editing, and deleting duplicates.
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So
do the non-weather entries have to be transcribed 3 times also, in
order to appear, or does each unique entry get incorporated into the
larger record?
Inquiring minds want to know...
C.
I've seen three versions of a (badly written) ship's name on one day.
Soooo, I'm guessing that any variation appears in the transcription.
The number of appearances of an entry also depends on which category the transcriber chose to put it in.
I've seen a place name under Location and the same name under Place/Sighted. The name only appears on the log page as a port.
My first attempt is here: http://www.naval-history.net/OWShips-WW1-31Parramatta.htm
Good luck, all you future editors. ;)
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So
do the non-weather entries have to be transcribed 3 times also, in
order to appear, or does each unique entry get incorporated into the
larger record?
Inquiring minds want to know...
C.
I've seen three versions of a (badly written) ship's name on one day.
Soooo, I'm guessing that any variation appears in the transcription.
The number of appearances of an entry also depends on which category the transcriber chose to put it in.
I've seen a place name under Location and the same name under Place/Sighted. The name only appears on the log page as a port.
My first attempt is here: http://www.naval-history.net/OWShips-WW1-31Parramatta.htm
Good luck, all you future editors. ;)
Without
having looked at your source material I think you have done a really
good job with this log. Nice clear history is I guess the most important
thing and that is what you have achieved with Parramatta. Consistency
with entries also seems important. I am really looking forward to
getting to grips with this process.
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Regarding consistency with entries, I keep wondering how the
information on the gunboats patrolling the Chinese West River will be
used, with all the obscure and often badly-written place names without
lat-long data?
On that point, and a question that may already
have been answered, what is the consensus on recording location when
there "From" "To" and "At" locations are all entered in the log and the
"To" is the same as the "At" (e.g. Kong Moon, Canton, Canton)? I
have been entering the "At" location (Canton in this example) and then
adding Place events for landmarks along the way. The "From" can be
deduced from the previous day's "To".
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Regarding
consistency with entries, I keep wondering how the information on the
gunboats patrolling the Chinese West River will be used, with all the
obscure and often badly-written place names without lat-long data?
On
that point, and a question that may already have been answered, what is
the consensus on recording location when there "From" "To" and "At"
locations are all entered in the log and the "To" is the same as the
"At" (e.g. Kong Moon, Canton, Canton)? I have been entering the
"At" location (Canton in this example) and then adding Place events for
landmarks along the way. The "From" can be deduced from the previous
day's "To".
Who
knows what wondrous software will be available in the future, able to
decipher/match obscure/obsolete place names and their locations.
???
I feel that we should should take the view that pages will
be read/analysed in isolation, and insert whatever details are shown in
the "from"/"to" field. Those may be more readily identifiable than the
referenced mini localities, at least some of which have English names.
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Do you use the Place Event to do this, Bunts, or do you put in two locations?.
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Regarding
consistency with entries, I keep wondering how the information on the
gunboats patrolling the Chinese West River will be used, with all the
obscure and often badly-written place names without lat-long data?
On
that point, and a question that may already have been answered, what is
the consensus on recording location when there "From" "To" and "At"
locations are all entered in the log and the "To" is the same as the
"At" (e.g. Kong Moon, Canton, Canton)? I have been entering the
"At" location (Canton in this example) and then adding Place events for
landmarks along the way. The "From" can be deduced from the previous
day's "To".
Who
knows what wondrous software will be available in the future, able to
decipher/match obscure/obsolete place names and their locations.
???
I feel that we should should take the view that pages will
be read/analysed in isolation, and insert whatever details are shown in
the "from"/"to" field. Those may be more readily identifiable than the
referenced mini localities, at least some of which have English names.
Ditto Bunts, gastcra.
On
the "from A to B at B" question, the double use of a name is actually 2
different pieces of information. The "from A to B" means you are
traveling somewhere between these 2 places and placing the ship at
either would be an error, the analysts will have to use Lat.Long or dead
reckoning to locate the ship. The "at B" says, "Voyage over - we
have arrived at port" - Lat.Long. is not needed. The "at A," if
you have it, says, "Still at port, we will be leaving shortly."
And
"Location" can be used for all top-of-page and all
Lat.Long.-whereevers. Event/Place isn't a mistake, but will be
looked at last by the analysts.
Actually, your little gunboat is
being easy on you. When I was on sloop Torch in the Pacific
islands, one of my pages had all of this above the top line, rearranged
by me in chronological order instead of the heavily stacked format
forced by the printed page:
18 July 1914:
at Wala Island and from Wala Island to Atchin Island via Vao Island and at Atchin Island
;D
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HMS Hermione (1913) is turning out to be good fun. In 11 days
we've had a failed steam trial with a Court of Enquiry to examine the
cause, a successful steam trial, 5 Warrants and 2 naughty lads off to
the detention barracks.
8)
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Good morning/evening Old Weather.
Sounds like you're having fun Steeleye. :)
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... and it keeps on coming ... another two days and two more
Warrants read and an Engineering Lieutenant placed under open
arrest. When the war starts, they're going to be unstoppable - as
long as they still have enough key crewmen to man the ship.
;D
A couple of days later the Engineering Lieutenant was tried by Court Martial and thrown off the ship.
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My, my, my!!!
Hermione's OW crew will not be bored. ;D
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I think I just got what must be one of the coolest leaving presents ever ;D
It's
my last day in my current job tomorrow, but they've given me part of my
present today because the person who's idea it was isn't going to be
in.
What is it? A Fitzroy storm glass 8)
I'm very happy and will be eyeing it at far too frequent intervals
to see what the weather's doing.
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:o 8)
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I think I just got what must be one of the coolest leaving presents ever ;D
It's
my last day in my current job tomorrow, but they've given me part of my
present today because the person who's idea it was isn't going to be
in.
What is it? A Fitzroy storm glass 8)
I'm very happy and will be eyeing it at far too frequent intervals
to see what the weather's doing.
I had to look up what this was. Wow! Cool gift. Good luck in your new job, CousinJenny!
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I'm back...
Actually I never left, I have just been busy with uni ;)
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Good to see you again! I thought you hadn't been around lately.
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Americans. Admit any of you picked up the main pot of money! ??? ??? ;D
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'uni', sean0118? I hope that isn't a euphemism for 'Detention Barracks'. Welcome back to the fold.
??? ;D
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'uni', sean0118? I hope that isn't a euphemism for 'Detention Barracks'. Welcome back to the fold.
??? ;D
Much worse then that, more like solitary confinement with hard labor ;D
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Morning all -
Quite the adventure yesterday ;D
It took 3 hours instead of 4 to get the girls and on the plus side, we found a great Carolina BBQ place - Ralph's -
Since it only took 3 hours to get there, I foresee road trips in my future! :P
Also,
the Quality Inn off Exit 173 of I-95 is chock full of nice people - the
management let the girls wait in the lobby until we got there and let
them eat breakfast :D
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Hello all. ;D
Things are kind of weird in my neck of
the woods. We had temps in the 70s, it's now in the 40s, and we had some
earthquakes (in Wisconsin of all places!) I was too far away from any
of the noises and shaking (if there was any), but people are enjoying
the humor of it. :)
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Also,
the Quality Inn off Exit 173 of I-95 is chock full of nice people - the
management let the girls wait in the lobby until we got there and let
them eat breakfast :D
I'll make a note of that.
Maryland and Illinois lottery winners. Should we be extra nice to you and Janet?
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Hello all. ;D
Things
are kind of weird in my neck of the woods. We had temps in the 70s,
it's now in the 40s, and we had some earthquakes (in Wisconsin of all
places!) I was too far away from any of the noises and shaking (if there
was any), but people are enjoying the humor of it. :)
Was the "earthquake" all the Wisconsinians stamping their feet at the lottery disappointment?
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Also,
the Quality Inn off Exit 173 of I-95 is chock full of nice people - the
management let the girls wait in the lobby until we got there and let
them eat breakfast :D
I'll make a note of that.
Maryland and Illinois lottery winners. Should we be extra nice to you and Janet?
Not
me, anyway. The winner is in a small down-state town, close to
St. Louis. Chicago isn't even going to get much of his/her
spendings. :'(
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Hello all. ;D
Things
are kind of weird in my neck of the woods. We had temps in the 70s,
it's now in the 40s, and we had some earthquakes (in Wisconsin of all
places!) I was too far away from any of the noises and shaking (if there
was any), but people are enjoying the humor of it. :)
Was the "earthquake" all the Wisconsinians stamping their feet at the lottery disappointment?
;D ;D ;D
Actually,
it was a genuine earthquake back on March 20th at an earth-shattering
1.5. Normally this wouldn't do anything in California or other places on
fault lines, but the soil here is different, and people reported
hearing construction noises, jackhamers, booms, feeling shakes, etc.
(but there's no construction going on anywhere near this area). People
are really taking advantage of this like creating "I survived the 1.5"
t-shirts. It's interesting, in a way. :)
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Alas, no, I am not among the independently wealthy ;D
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Our weather is going crazy. Last week I was in short sleeves (if I
was younger I might have been in shorts!), today it snowed and I was
wearing my winter gloves. The snow was almost horizontal as I
drove north after a visit to family down south. Fortunately the
ground was warm enough that it didn't lie on the lower ground at least.
The
Met Office reported that Aboyne (in NE Scotland) had a 20C drop in
temperature in a week. I know that for some places this isn't that
uncommon but it isn't common in the UK. At the beginning of
April, many of the daffodils are over in SCOTLAND. Normally they are
just beginning to pick about now. The poor bees who got tempted
out by last week's weather will be suffering now although they have a
surprising choice of flowers to visit if they can warm up enough to fly.
I'm not sure I want to know the weather predictions for the future.
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HMS Raleigh : '1710 Hands bathed.'
I wonder when they bath the rest of the crew parts??!! ;D ;) ::)
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HMS Raleigh : '1710 Hands bathed.'
I wonder when they bath the rest of the crew parts??!! ;D ;) ::)
;D
Not sure when you signed on, so this may be before your time:
http://forum.oldweather.org/index.php?topic=1454.msg35755#msg35755
;)
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Congratulations to us!
Old Weather is now in the top 5% of all BOINC teams!!!
Pretty darned good for a team that is barely 8 months old :o
http://boincstats.com/stats/boinc_team_graph.php?pr=bo&teamcpid=458b2e76b918586f0d0d1a65026f9317
If
you haven't already....Click on our position (circled in the
attachment) in "BOINC World position based on credit (based on
incremental update) 4,749 out of 95,329" to see how we compare in the list of teams!
http://boincstats.com/stats/boinc_team_stats.php?pr=bo&st=4700
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I've been thinking and I wonder what happens when the ships are all
paid off? I've been working on this project for about 1 1/2 years,
and it has become my primary hobby. What say you, PTB - will the
well ever run dry? Do ya'll have other projects in mind for this
monster you have created?
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I've
been thinking and I wonder what happens when the ships are all paid
off? I've been working on this project for about 1 1/2 years, and
it has become my primary hobby. What say you, PTB - will the well
ever run dry? Do ya'll have other projects in mind for this
monster you have created?
Ditto ;D
but hobby is an understatement ;)
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;D ;D
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I think they probably have a responsibility for this company of happy addicts .... ::)
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I've
been thinking and I wonder what happens when the ships are all paid
off? I've been working on this project for about 1 1/2 years, and
it has become my primary hobby. What say you, PTB - will the well
ever run dry? Do ya'll have other projects in mind for this
monster you have created?
Ditto ;D
but hobby is an understatement ;)
I
agree, that it is more than a hobby. I have just started to work on one
of the histories. Obviously the list of ships and logs is finite, so we
must run out eventually, but just Odin's history will keep me going for
a long time and is at least as fascinating as transcribing.
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You are right, Phase I is complete and Phase II is winding down.
Phase
III is already in the pipeline, but not yet fully formed as to how it
is to go in. So I don't want to say too much, and find out life
happened and made me wrong.
There is this in the forum, although it is already slightly changed:
http://forum.oldweather.org/index.php?topic=2238.msg31401#msg31401
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Old_Weather
...Phase
II will consist of Royal Navy logs from a similar time to those
digitised in Phase I. This is the only definite plan at this time. It is
hoped that Phase III will consist of US logs and Phase IV will consist of Arctic logs. ...
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Last week's issue of 'The Guardian Weekly' has an excellent 2-page
article by TimAdams on Galaxy Zoo, titled 'Sharing the wonder of
space'. The article is sourced from the Observer. I can't
see a way of accessing the article if you are not a subscriber, so
perhaps the solution is to ask your local 12 year-old geek.
If you can find the article, it's a good read.
;D
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Try this link for one, it seems to be the original article they borrowed for the weekly.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/2012/mar/18/galaxy-zoo-crowdsourcing-citizen-scientists
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Good morning, Geoff, Steeleye, Randi, everybody.
Yeah, I have
seen that article around here somewhere
(http://forum.oldweather.org/index.php?topic=16.msg38181#msg38181).
;D
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Morning OW and Caro. The article was also highlighted on the Galaxy Zoo forum.
Happy Easter weekend everyone, don't eat too much chocolate :)
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'... too much chocolate' has to be an oxymoron.
;)
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I know you wrote something, but I don't understand it - "too much chocolate" - what do these words mean?
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'... too much chocolate' has to be an oxymoron.
;)
;D
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I know you wrote something, but I don't understand it - "too much chocolate" - what do these words mean?
;D
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Good morning Geoff, Randi, OW.
Misty, rainy .... time for more chocolate?
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Morning OW and Caro - started drizzling here which is all right by
me as the garden needs watering. Tomorrow looks like heavy rain which
isn't all right as I'm attending a BBQ :(
Finished all my white chocolate last night so only the ordinary stuff remaining.
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December 7 1914 (Pearl Harbour Day minus 27) is an excellent day not
to be on HMS Glory as she steams on patrol off New York and tries to
struggle back to Halifax. Winds have been Force 9-11 all day and
the sea state has been up to 9. Speeds from 0-4 knots.
Methinks an uncomfortable time was being had by all.
The
Paris-Roubaix cycle classic is showing on TV tonight - beginning at
9.30pm, which plays havoc with my sleep cycle if I watch it through to
the end. Life really would be so much simpler for some of us if
the Earth was flat.
;)
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AMEN!!!!!!
Blessings, Dean
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And a second amen!
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Good morning Geoff, Randi, the usual suspects. :D
Our gardens will be well watered today, Geoff.
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Good morning Caro and Geoff.
It's cold here; we had frost last night.
We really need rain (we had some last week, but it wasn't nearly enough)
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Morning Randi and Caro. Raining steadily here which is good news for
my garden and the common gardens in my estate. Not good news for the
BBQ I am attending later today :( Will probably end up standing
around in the kitchen all afternoon.
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Ah, tradition! ;D
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What a relief. After 3 months of Moorhen log pages split over two
pages each I am now back to easy sailing in April 1923. With my luck,
they will assign the Blenheim log keeper to this ship, if he wasn't
court marshalled for his bad handwriting ;D
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Spring in DC (a few weeks ago - it came early this year!)
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NOTE: Just a few minutes ago, we had a snow, hail, rain squall - crazy! ;D
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That's stunning Kathy! I think everyone is having bizarre
weather this year; we had amazingly warm weather in March; the other day
there was hail, and they're forecasting frost for a lot of places
tomorrow morning.
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March would have been the second warmest April in Chicago history,
if it had been April then - 3 straight weeks in the 70s and low
80s. April is behaving like a perfectly normal warm March, if we
were back in March - a few days around 60, lots in the forties and this
week in the 30s, with freezing at nights.
Makes you wonder, the
only good part about it is that March gave every flowering plant a
wonderful boost and April so far has not damaged a single petal. A
truly beautiful long spring.
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Monday, someone's front yard in my neighborhood.
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This morning, sunrise
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I'd love to wake up to that every morning - 8)
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I very rarely wake up early enough to walk the 3/4 of a mile in time
to see it. But when I do, it is fabulously worth it. Which
also gives me reason to see pretty yards in front of the big homes near
the lake. ;D
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:o
Life after Firefox: Can Mozilla regain its mojo? (http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-17663669)
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I sometimes wonder: is the available TV viewing elsewhere in the
world as woeful as it is here in Oz? (Logic says that this is not
possible.) Tonight there are actually two documentaries worth
watching; this is at least double the normal weekly quota. To
balance out this temporary happy state of affairs, the doccos will be
followed on another channel by a movie titled 'The Core', the synopsis
of which goes like this:
'When scientists discover that the
Earth's core is about to stop spinning, a team is recruited on a mission
to pilot a ship to the centre of the Earth to prevent the catastrophe.
Starring: Christopher Shyer, Ray Galletti, Hilary Swank, Stanley Tucci.
Cons: Some Coarse Language, Some Violence.'
With a story line like that, climate change is but a minor skin blemish on the face of history.
The
synopsis reminded me a little of the film '10.0', which graced our
airwaves a couple of years ago. The basis of the story was quite
interesting - progressively larger earthquakes strike the western
seaboard of the US, culminating in a magnitude 10.0 quake in California
(of course). After the quite reasonable first hour or so, the plot
rapidly progressed through increasing levels of silliness and
degenerating 'science' until it became a complete farce with a large
slice of coastal California breaking off from North America.
I think that the substitution of a couple of extra hours on HMS Glory will be an excellent alternative.
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I sometimes wonder: is the available TV viewing elsewhere in the world as woeful as it is here in Oz?
Yes.
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Succinctly put, Caro, but surely not accurate.
;)
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Have you ever seen Hollyoaks?
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Let's just say I had to google 'Hollyoaks' to find out what it is.
Are you suggesting that I forego transcribing logs to watch it, if it ever gets here?
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I don't have TV although I love my radio. But I visited my
brother just before Easter and they are digital with 40 channels plus
and sometimes there was a choice of 40 items which we didn't want to
watch. Although it is fair to say that there were one or two good
programmes - most of which appeared at least twice, sometimes on
different channels!
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Oh you -
where do you think those 2 movies were made? ;D
I rest my case - :P
Kathy
PS - I must admit though, that my shameful, secret secret is that I liked The Core, Armageddon, well, you get the picture...I dearly love SciFi - the good and the bad ;D
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You all on all sides of both oceans need to pay attention to
whatever your version of PBS is! I'm a documentary addict, and
while I don't have the desire to pay the cable company a small fortune
to watch 200 channels, of which I may be interested in 10 or
15, the digital PBS stations - local, PBS Prime and PBS Create, manage
quite well - I can count on half-a-dozen or more each week. And
that's over-the-air broadcasting. Much of it produced in part by
BBC.
8)
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Yup!! Stick with PBS. We are very lucky to get a couple Canadian
Channels one of which is the 'national broadcasting network'
CBC. My father used to call TV the vast American wasteland!!
We have a 'basic' cable of 15 stations. There are available some 250 most with nothing worth watching on!
I'll stick with OW!! Thanks.
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That "basic cable" is also what I have - OTA broadcasting just does
not penetrate strongly built century old apartment buildings. And
that gives me about 21 channels. It works!
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oohh - I am so jealous! My husband got to see the shuttle fly
over the Capitol and past the monuments today :P - I missed
it :'(
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oohh
- I am so jealous! My husband got to see the shuttle fly over the
Capitol and past the monuments today :P - I missed it
:'(
Here's about 11 minutes of cloud and sky before landing:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-17745800
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http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=GEVdalEJ_X4&vq=medium
;)
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Good morning OW. The drought has well and truly broken here. :D
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Morning OW & Caro - lots of rain here as well but hope it eases
up soon as I need to walk to Canary Wharf to do some shopping.
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;D Good luck with that Geoff.
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Come, come Geoff. The only way to break a drought is rain!
Mind
you, I've always reckoned that a well regulated weather would confine
most rain to the period between sunset and sunrise with a new
process to burn the clouds to thin, patchy or absent for the rest.
Good thing I don't rule the world I suspect.
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I'd vote for you on that platform - sounds just like it should be!
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Come, come Geoff. The only way to break a drought is rain!
Mind
you, I've always reckoned that a well regulated weather would confine
most rain to the period between sunset and sunrise with a new
process to burn the clouds to thin, patchy or absent for the rest.
Good thing I don't rule the world I suspect.
I have a vision of you and Harry Secombe living in Camelot.
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No better spot for Happy Everaftering ;D
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At least Harry Secombe could sing! Mind you, if I could fix a minor
detail like the weather perhaps I could find a fix for my singing voice
as well.
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Well, we now have light rain also -
a good day to curl up with a cuppa and a good book! ;D
Alas, work beckons - :P
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For those of us who serve:
http://www.wimp.com/catexistence/
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That could only be a French cat .... 8)
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Triste ... :'(
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I know - the weight of living lies heavy on that poor creature, n'est ce pas
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;D ;D
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Our cats took very, very good care of us.
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Strange. Moorhen decorated ship for the occassion of the Japanese Crown Prince's birthday (Jan. 26 1924) ???
I could understand this if the ship was visiting Japan, but in Canton?
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Good Morning all -
Wish me luck - am off to puppy kindergarten with Bailey -
She
has never been around a group of people and dogs before - she loves
both, so I'm hoping her rear end does not "helicopter" the rest of her
off the ground. ;D If it does, I'll take pictures for the rest of
the class.
She also hates to be barked at, so, all in all, this
could be a very interesting morning. (When she gets barked at on walks,
we have to pick her up and hold her because she simply will not move and
she also rears up against one's leg. She is starting to get
heavy, so you can see how this might be a problem. The class is an
hour and 1/2. And for 6 weeks. :P)
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Hi Gastcra -
I have had ships that dressed, while in Hong
Kong, for the US Fourth of July (pretty ironic on the face of it) - I
think ships dressed for major events and events in the lives of world
leaders no matter where or the nationality of the Navy the ships were
actually part of.
Ta -
Kathy
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Hi, Kathy, hope you and Bailey had a good morning at the
kindergarten. It sounds as though it might have counted as your
gym session too, if you had to keep picking her up ....
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Hi Gastcra -
I
have had ships that dressed, while in Hong Kong, for the US Fourth of
July (pretty ironic on the face of it) - I think ships dressed for major
events and events in the lives of world leaders no matter where or the
nationality of the Navy the ships were actually part of.
Ta -
Kathy
Actually,
I think the choice of foreign "dress days" seems to be a combination of
where they are and who else is in port with them. Even if they
don't log the ship at anchorage. If they are dressing for July 4th
in Hong Kong, then I'll bet there's a USN ship parked nearby.
There is no way they can cover the whole world all the time, they would
never be not dressed.
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Good Heavens - undressed ships!!! What is this world coming to??!! :o ::)
BTW - If they are moving does that mean they dress in drag??!! ;)
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OK so I make a comment and what happens?! ??? I go to continue my
transcribe on Ceres and they dress the ship for the King's Birthday.
Then they bathed the hands. THEN they UNDRESS the ship!!! :o
https://s3.amazonaws.com/oldweather/ADM53-37502/0086_1.jpg
That'll teach me!!! :D
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Good Heavens - undressed ships!!! What is this world coming to??!! :o ::)
BTW - If they are moving does that mean they dress in drag??!! ;)
Only if they are being towed :D
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Good morning OW and
happy birthday Janet
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Happy Birthday Janet
;) ;D
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and a very Happy Birthday from me too ! ;D
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Happy Birthday from the Antipodes, Janet! How many is that, exactly?
A
good weekend down here too, with Lady Steeleye and I becoming
grandparents for the first time. The new status could
significantly impact on my transcribing time!
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Happy Birthday Janet !!! :)
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Congratulations Steeleye!
Good timing --- between phases ;)
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Happy Birthday Janet - I hope you have a good one!
Steeleye - Bring the new Rating along - you cannot begin to soon!
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I'll speak to the little fella' about it Kathy, but I'm not sure
that the focus is quite there in the eyes at a bit less that 2 days
old. Give it a couple of weeks ...
:-\
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:D
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Happy Birthday, Janet - hope you can celebrate in style!
And congratulations to Steeleye and your family - making sure there will be future generations of transcribers ....
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Happy birthday Janet!!!!!! ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
And congrats Steeleye! ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Congratulations to you, Steeleye and family!
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Congrats on the grand-baby, Steeleye. This one you can spoil to your heart's content, that's a grandparent's job. ;D
And
thank you all for the Birthday greetings. I'm going out to spoil
myself for the day. Talk to you all later this evening.
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Best Wishes!
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Congratulations Steeleye!!!!!!!!! ;D ;D ;D
Janet:
Happy Birthday to you,
Happy Birthday to you,
Happy Birthday dear Jaaaaaaannnnnnnneeeeeeetttttttttttttt,
Happy Birthday to you!
Hope it's a happy one and that you get lots of neat presents!
Hope also you get to share with family!
::) ::)
Blessings, Dean
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Happy Birthday JANET
Congratulations STEELEYE
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Thanks all, again. I'm back from a lovely day downtown totally ignoring any hint of my usual diet. ;D
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Happy Birthday Janet
Enjoy the new crew member Steeleye
Pommy Stuart
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Morning OW, sunny outside but rain expected soon.
Happy belated birthday to Janet and congratulations to Steeleye :)
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Good morning Geoff, good morning all.
Sunny here too, so far. The forecast doesn't sound so good: 8C!
And happy St George's Day. ;)
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It is cold and rainy here - ugh!!! ???
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Lots of new logs came in, including 13 brand new ships. We are still in business.
;D
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My baby is back!
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Looks like everyone's getting their lattes to go all of a sudden. :)
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(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb177/dragonsyafinapooh/Animated%20WallPaper/animated-fireworks.gif)
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The harbor did clear out rather quickly ;D
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For a short time I am captain of a not-to-be-disclosed ship. I know
it won't last long and I am exulting in the heady feeling of power as I
give orders right and left ... well, mostly left (is that
starboard?) ;D I am still a bit uncertain of lat and long
but I compensate with my extraordinary ability to consult others.
... oops, end of log book already :'(. I knew it was too good to last.
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Like you I've got a Captaincy (at least for now) only my ships real
Captain (Captain C.S.W Pyddoke R.N. was invalided back to England on the
"Arlanza" looks like I'm really in charge for a while as they have not
logged a replacement. (God help the poor crew) ;D
;D ;D
Spoke to soon Captain R.S. Gwatkin Williams turned up a few week later.
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What was the 'average' time a sailor spent on a ship before getting leave during the war?
I don't see much in the logs about crew getting sent home for leave.
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What was the 'average' time a sailor spent on a ship before getting leave during the war?
I don't see much in the logs about crew getting sent home for leave.
I
saw it on my ships when they were in dry dock for refits. Once,
they clearly sent everyone home, but the logs and weather kept being
filled in, different handwriting. One of our sailors said the
dockyard had "relief" crews that would move in and do it so no one lost
that chance for an extended leave. And the length of the leave
seemed to depend on the length of the repair.
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Hi.
I had a month or so on my new ship then the crew was paid off
and the log resumed about a year later. No mention as to what was
happening with the ship.
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Morning OW, still raining here, will need to think about building an ark if this continues :D
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... and if you build an ark, we expect the logs to be kept in good order.
;)
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Hi all. Absolutely pouring here too, in this area of water restrictions.
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They say in my area that winter starts on ANZAC day. They were right.
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I go away for three days and come back to a whole new batch of ships
- alleluia! And there's one (at least) on the northern patrol too
- so I'm happy.
On the British weather front - apparently it's been declared the wettest drought since records began ....
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Hi Helenj.
Come and join me on the HMS Intrepid. 8)
I am in Yukanskie at the moment.
It's such an exciting ship that they even note Breakfast, Dinner and Tea times in the log. ::)
As
an aside, I have just come back from a holiday in the area not far away
from where the ship is (Alta & Tromso, Kiruma) and saw the Northern
lights for 6 nights.
Bl__dy Brilliant.
Regards
Captain Pommystuart.
In Down Under Land.
???? wettest drought ????
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Hi Pommystuart, I think I might stick with HMS Hilary where the
weather is exciting enough to record every hour, and they never seem to
mention meals - they're far too busy chasing around after foreign ships
and boarding them to check they're not breaking the blockade of
Germany. However if it all gets too much and I need a bit of
tranquillity I'll remember I have an invitation for Intrepid.
Where on earth is Yukanskie?
wettest drought - I know - I think
it's probably a peculiarly British concept. The last time we had a
bad drought (back in 1976) the government finally appointed a minister
for drought to go around the country exhorting people to share a bath
with a friend, and generally use as little water as possible, and as
soon as he got going it began to rain and didn't stop for months (that's
the legend anyway ....) This time we don't have a Minister, just a
lot of hosepipe bans, but it's certainly been raining. However
rumour has it that it's the wrong kind of rain (another British
affliction - the trains are regularly affected in winter by - all
together now - The Wrong Kind of Snow.)
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Ah yes, the wrong kind of snow ! Such fond memories ! ;D
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You forgot the 'wrong kind of leaves' which routinely affect the trains every autumn.
;)
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Yukanski (the log adds the e at the end.) is the town now called Ostrovnoy in NW Russia.
SE of Murmansk, N of Arkhangelsk.
I now remember the wrong kind of things. (ex Englishman)
It don't take much to upset our trains either.
We
had a big drought down here in Australia, (Sydney, New South Wales) not
long ago, so we built a Desalination plant and it's rairly stopped
raining since. They are letting water out of the spillways. ???
Enjoy the Hilary.
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Good morning OW. The rainy drought continues.
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I was a little sad because for me it is summer already. ;)
9:30 30C in the sun in the shade for now 20C, announced at noon 27-28C
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Well, for once I am delighting in bright sun while you have the
rain. Mind you, it isn't very warm but I will settle for bright
and sunny since our reservoirs are topped up and the ground is still
pretty damp.
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WINDY here
We need rain
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You have a drought?
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cool and breezy here in MD - where did Spring go? ???
Oh,
and just let me say this: How 'bout those Nats! (DC's
baseball team, the Nationals - they have gone from being one of the
worst in the League to 2nd best at 14-5 woo hoo!)
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You have a drought?
Almost
the whole of Southern England is officially in drought. Many parts have
hosepipe bans. However, the recent really heavy thunderstorms in some
places have also produced flood warnings.
We love our weather.
K
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I was rather surprised when South West England was officially
designated a drought area - my garden has been waterlogged most of the
winter! I can only assume we had some very localized weather in
the Exeter area ???
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All this talk of drought in the UK is a bit worrying. We'll be
heading for Europe and the UK in a couple of weeks (just trying to do
our bit for your economies, you understand), and we are spending a few
days on the North Oxford canal in a rented narrowboat. I'm
wondering if we should be renting one that has trainer wheels, just in
case?
??? ;D
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Enjoy the narrow boat.
Misses & I hired one in Scotland, I had a great time ;D, Misses >:(
Remember narrowboating is a contact sport. ;)
Tip, start turning slowly BEFORE you need to.
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American asking for word definition here: is a "narrow boat" a canoe or a kayak?
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Neither.
It's a long thin boat usually around the dimensions of 50' to 60' long by 6'10" wide.
You can live on them. Some of the locks are only 7' wide.
This site shows some for sale which will give you an idea about them.
www.narrowboats.apolloduck.co.uk/ (http://www.narrowboats.apolloduck.co.uk/)
This site shows a great boat lifter in scotland.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Falkirk_Wheel (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Falkirk_Wheel)
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Cool! I've never seen any boat like that here - kind of a
cross between a high-end canal barge and a houseboat. That would
be a fun vacation, if you liked to be close to each other. :)
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Good morning OW. Another rainy day begins.
No boats, narrow or otherwise, for me today. :)
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While I have sun again although the tops of the hills I can see from
my bedroom window have a dusting of white (snow while we had some
overnight rain down in the valley).
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All
this talk of drought in the UK is a bit worrying. We'll be
heading for Europe and the UK in a couple of weeks (just trying to do
our bit for your economies, you understand), and we are spending a few
days on the North Oxford canal in a rented narrowboat. I'm
wondering if we should be renting one that has trainer wheels, just in
case?
??? ;D
In
answer to your question Steeleye. your canal is much more likely to
overflow due to the high rainfall we are having at the moment than to be
dry due to the drought.
Seriously our canal levels rarely change, but do bring waterproofs.
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I used to go on the canals for holidays. If the water levels
were low they restricted cruising hours and the lock-keepers spent more
time making sure that boats didn't waste water. Most locks will
take a 70ft long boat so some of the smaller boats can double up.
They also make sure that boats don't 'turn over the lock' when they can
see another boat coming towards a set lock. You aren't supposed to
change the water level to suit your direction of travel if you can see a
boat coming the other way who can use the water. Some selfish
people do though if the boat isn't actually close enough to sail
straight in. But if water is short they have more staff out to
enforce the regulations.
There are also some canals which are
'broad', that is they take 14 ft wide boats or 2 standard narrow boats
side by side. You try to travel in pairs on these canals if water
is in short supply as well. Some years ago we were locking through
Beeston Iron Lock in Cheshire with 2 68 ft boats. We managed
perfectly well through the stone lock but when we let the water out of
the Iron Lock the boats did not go down! Close examination
revealed that the lock sides had bowed and the bolts on a couple of iron
plates were catching on the boat. We decided that discretion was
called for. So we refilled the lock and went through singly. The
later edition of the cruising guide said that the lock would only take 2
boats if each was less that 60 ft long!
If things get really bad
the boat hire companies normally take their boats to a part of the
network which has enough water and they offer you a different holiday,
usually with the option of cancellation if that is not acceptable.
Canals
very rarely flood. The rivers are a bigger problem and the
stretch of the Trent and Mersey Canal where the river flows across the
canal is very exciting when the river flow is high. We were once
marooned on the Erewash Canal when we couldn't exit onto the river but
the hire company was very understanding and we got an extra 2 days
holiday! Enjoy your holiday, waterproofs, sunblock and midge repellant
are all required - often in the same week!
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Don't forget to try the local beer on the canal side pubs. ;D
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The narrowboats look like fun. My 'narrowboat' is a 27'
Bristol/Alberg sailboat 8' beam which we launched yesterday in Lake
Ontario. Mast went up today and we hope to be day sailing by midweek!
I WILL continue to find time for OW!!!! I'm addicted!
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After some disasterous floods in N Oxon a few years back (the rail
station at Banbury nearly got flooded away :o ) the canal's been
reasonably well regulated since then :) So much so that they
flooded half of Kidlington downstream, and consequently the Botanic
Gardens in Oxford, to keep the canal happy a couple of years later
::) You'll have fun - and the pubs are good - and it's very
lovely countryside. :)
Ava
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Good morning OW, from a very wet and windy Oxfordshire (don't worry Steeleye .... plenty of water for the canal!)
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... and the really worrying question - am I in trouble with my OW colleagues if I forget to take the weather obs during our sojourn on the canal?
My
thanks to everyone for all the helpful comments, which are a very
useful complement to my Nicholson's Waterways Guide 1 (Grand Union,
Oxford & the South East).
??? ::)
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I think you just might be given leave for the duration, if your conduct has deserved it .... ;D
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Don't for get to post the weather obs from the canal. ;D
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Good morning OW. The sun is shining, the birds are tweeting ...
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.....before the next deluge, bless them. ::)
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Back from holiday and there's loads of new ships - yeah! Last time I
was away (Christmas) we also got new logs, so I'm going to volunteer to
be sent on long leave next time we start to get a bit short.
I
didn't completely forget OW while away as it helped be get the answer to
to cryptic crossword clue: The girl messing about in a boat (7). And I
was in the (English) Lake District so there was definitely weather
:D (even some bc as well as r and d)
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Back
from holiday and there's loads of new ships - yeah! Last time I was
away (Christmas) we also got new logs, so I'm going to volunteer to be
sent on long leave next time we start to get a bit short.
I
didn't completely forget OW while away as it helped be get the answer to
to cryptic crossword clue: The girl messing about in a boat (7). And I
was in the (English) Lake District so there was definitely weather
:D (even some bc as well as r and d)
I've
not attempted a crossword since the demise of the N of the W (purely
coincidental, did it have a crossword?) I don't like my answer but it's
the only one I've got: Marline ???
Did you take a change of wellingtons to the Lakes, or rely on Old Faithfuls? Oh, and a rubber dinghy.
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I think the solution is lighter (anagram of the girl).
Morning all. :D
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I love cryptics, but I am TERRIBLE at them ::)
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Those things drive me crazy!
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Since I'm already in that state... ;)
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Well, yes, upon reflection I should say crazier :P
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In keeping with the cryptic / anagram theme Kathy, I think that your original comment could have been:
'Those things derive my czar.'
;)
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:P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P
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I think the solution is lighter (anagram of the girl).
Morning all. :D
I'm clearly not good at cryptics! The best I could come up with is 'galleys'. :P
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I think the solution is lighter (anagram of the girl).
Morning all. :D
Yes
- unfortunately none of the other clues in the crossword had any
relation to OW which is my excuse for why we failed to get anywhere near
finishing it.
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Back
from holiday and there's loads of new ships - yeah! Last time I was
away (Christmas) we also got new logs, so I'm going to volunteer to be
sent on long leave next time we start to get a bit short.
I
didn't completely forget OW while away as it helped be get the answer to
to cryptic crossword clue: The girl messing about in a boat (7). And I
was in the (English) Lake District so there was definitely weather
:D (even some bc as well as r and d)
I've
not attempted a crossword since the demise of the N of the W (purely
coincidental, did it have a crossword?) I don't like my answer but it's
the only one I've got: Marline ???
Did you take a change of wellingtons to the Lakes, or rely on Old Faithfuls? Oh, and a rubber dinghy.
Several pairs of boots and waterproofs but luckily didn't need the boat
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I visited Greenwich today and the Cutty Sark is dressed up for the jubilee:
(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7040/7136463959_a55cfa7e0c_z.jpg)
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Cutty Sark is definitely on our 'to do' list when we get to London
at the end of May. Are they taking visitors on board now? We
saw an item on the post-fire restoration a few nights ago on the TV
news.
:)
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Morning OW.
Thanks for the pic Geoff. Cutty Sark is looking good. :)
For you Steeleye: http://www.rmg.co.uk/cuttysark/?gclid=CNSJv-y5468CFQ1lfAodAFFQAw
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Morning All,
Will be ready for the Olympics?
Fortunately, that did not burn completely.
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Many thanks Geoff - I just booked our tickets for the Cutty Sark!
8)
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4,000,000
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Let's hear it for the Old Weather BOINC team! ;D
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Hi all.
Weather like that.
A little nervous because of my daughter's first day of high school finals. :-X
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Fingers crossed, szukacz. :)
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Hi all.
Weather like that.
A little nervous because of my daughter's first day of high school finals. :-X
Good luck!
Don't get too stressed out ;D
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Good luck to the daughter, szukacz - don't forget to tell us how she got on.
The
end of a beautiful autumn day here; -3 to 16C, no cloud, no wind, and
all is well on this part of the planet. After a couple of years of much
wetter than average weather, we seem to be returning to normality - a
generally negative Southern Oscillation Index and rain bacoming a more
distant memory.
Time for the last cup of tea of the day and off to bed.
:)
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Good Luck to her :) (and I hope you come thru ok :-* ), szukacz
We
had quite the thunderstorm here last night - poor Bailey didn't know
what was going on and was running madly around the house growling and
barking...we wound up just holding her.
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Good Luck to her :) (and I hope you come thru ok :-* ), szukacz
We
had quite the thunderstorm here last night - poor Bailey didn't know
what was going on and was running madly around the house growling and
barking...we wound up just holding her.
Tegwen
(my dog) hates them too. We had one earlier in the week. It is the only
time she is allowed to sleep in the bedroom as she is convinced that
under my bed is the safest place.
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Good Luck to her :) (and I hope you come thru ok :-* ), szukacz
We
had quite the thunderstorm here last night - poor Bailey didn't know
what was going on and was running madly around the house growling and
barking...we wound up just holding her.
How is puppy school going?
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Good Luck to her :) (and I hope you come thru ok :-* ), szukacz
We
had quite the thunderstorm here last night - poor Bailey didn't know
what was going on and was running madly around the house growling and
barking...we wound up just holding her.
That was some storm last night!
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We
had quite the thunderstorm here last night - poor Bailey didn't know
what was going on and was running madly around the house growling and
barking...we wound up just holding her.
The modern child is becoming so highly strung. I think that you need to have a good talk with her Kathy.
;D
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Hi all.
Weather like that.
A little nervous because of my daughter's first day of high school finals. :-X
Hope all goes well with the tests. Please let us know how she does (with an OW parent - OBVIOUSLY a genius!!! ;D)
Got
the boat out for a short one this afternoon before the fog rolled in!
that's fairly normal around here in the spring. Chilly but good to
test the rigging and get set for summer! ;) N by W 2
bcf1 Baro:29.95 Air: 58
Sea:47 ;D ;D
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Morning all. Top temperature here today expected to be a mighty 8C.
Roll on summer.
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Hi all.
Weather like that.
A little nervous because of my daughter's first day of high school finals. :-X
How are you two doing? ;D
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No end in sight :)
Day 1: Polish language basic level: she says that the cool
Day 2: Polish language advanced level:?
Day 3: Mathematics:?
Day 4: English language Basic level:?
Day 4: English advanced level:?
Day 5: Presentation on any topic.
and the results have to wait 3-4 weeks.
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Tegwen
(my dog) hates them too. We had one earlier in the week. It is the only
time she is allowed to sleep in the bedroom as she is convinced that
under my bed is the safest place.
That's one smart dog: working out that the interior sprung mattress would work as a Faraday Cage.
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As part of the London 2012 Cultural Olympiad a boat has been built
from many various donated wooden objects. It's being launched today. It
looks rather impressive, the short video on the link below gives the
best views.
http://www.theboatproject.com/
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-hampshire-17981130
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That looks amazing, thanks for posting. I think the BBC may
have messed about with the links since you posted - I found the video
here:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-17980943
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Climate related :o
Giant dinosaurs could have warmed the planet with their flatulence, say researchers. (http://www.bbc.co.uk/nature/17953792)
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Maybe we ought to give up beans to reduce our personal contribution to greenhouse gases.
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oh lawks - I'm a vegetarian....pass the gang plank - there's only
one honorable thing to do :-[ :'( 'It's a
far greater thing I do now..' (hmmm - that's enough from you Mr
Dickens)
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Maybe we ought to give up beans to reduce our personal contribution to greenhouse gases.
I don't (usually) have trouble with beans ;)
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oh
lawks - I'm a vegetarian....pass the gang plank - there's only one
honorable thing to do :-[ :'( 'It's a far
greater thing I do now..' (hmmm - that's enough from you Mr
Dickens)
Worry
not AvastMH. As another veggie I am happy that our personal
contribution is far less than the amount produced by the animals that we
would have eaten if we werent veggie.
Having said that I do eat
eggs, cheese and milk, the producers of which undoubtedly contribute
their fair share. Just one more thing to worry about.
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Wouldn't eating the animals reduce the numbers and hence the flatulence?/
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Not if more are raised to replace the ones that were eaten ;)
I'm not a veggie, but I don't eat a lot of meat.
From
what I have read, cattle are the worst. I would be hard put to give up
milk, but I rarely eat beef and I have found some good cheeses from
sheep's milk.
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I'm willing to give up brussels sprouts for the common good ;D
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I eat neither meat nor Brussels sprouts. :D
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oh dear -
I'm the cat among the pigeons ;D
My favorite meal is steak, potato and a green salad with everything in it!
I
love fruit and veggies, but I am a bit of a carnivore (and I'm from the
American South - can't live without my bits of porky goodness :P )
I
hope everyone is doing well this fine day - I'm feeling a mite peckish
now - an apple, cheese, grapes, and pretzels (for crunch) sounds good
for breakfast!
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We are going to pass one million pages soon. Got the fireworks ready?
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oh dear- I can't stand the tension :-[
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And I must go to sleep ;) :-\
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Goodnight Szukacz! I should give up myself - but..... ;)
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We are going to pass one million pages soon. Got the fireworks ready?
I'll go do a few and see if I can get us over the wave!! ;D
Blessings, Dean
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Congratulations all. 1,000,002 pages transcribed according to the counter on my home page. :).
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I think all of you are awesome to have achieved this..it's a truly
heroic thing! Here's to the next 1 million! ;D
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I think all of you are awesome to have achieved this..it's a truly heroic thing! Here's to the next 1 million! ;D
A 21 gun SALUTE!!!!!! ;D ;D ;D ;D
We are ALL pretty amazing!!!!
On to the NEXT million!!!!!! ;)
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I think all of you are awesome to have achieved this..it's a truly heroic thing! Here's to the next 1 million! ;D
A 21 gun SALUTE!!!!!! ;D ;D ;D ;D
We are ALL pretty amazing!!!!
On to the NEXT million!!!!!! ;)
;D ;D ;D ;D
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Who was the luck participant?
There was not many of us online at that time, about 22:27:30hrs UTC
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Congratulations, everyone. A lot of dedication from all of you went into this. What a cool milestone.
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Way to go, crew! Six hours leave to the starbd watch to be
followed by six hours leave to the port watch, and let's not see the
subsequent need for any Warrants dor be read by Janet Jaguar et al.
;D
It's
farewell from me for 6 weeks - off to Europe and the UK tomorrow
morning, back on 21 June. I expect HMS Glory to have been wrapped
up by that date!
Cheers,
Steeleye
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There is no doubt about it: we rock. ;D Congratulations everyone.
A celebratory blog (http://blog.oldweather.org/2012/05/08/1-million-pages/) from Philip.
Bon voyage Steeleye.
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I hear there was a small celebration at the Zooniverse convention in Chicago too. ;)
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Splice the mainbrace! Although as the sun isn't over the yardarm
yet, it sounds like a good excuse for extra chocolate rations. ;D
szukacz, cool graphic 8)
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Who was the luck participant?
There was not many of us online at that time, about 22:27:30hrs UTC
I
was transcribing, and I have to admit, trying to get the millionth. I
refreshed the home page after each page finished. I think I did the
999,998th, and when I refreshed a few moments later the counter was at
1,000,002. I will go and enter this on the addiction thread now!!!
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Last look it was 999,999 then I submitted mine. :P
Next refresh was 1M
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Last look it was 999,999 then I submitted mine. :P
Next refresh was 1M
You chould get double-pay for that ;D
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Last look it was 999,999 then I submitted mine. :P
Next refresh was 1M
That looks as if you have it.
I didnt think to hold a completed page ready to hit Finished when the counter was close.
I definitely think you need an entry in the addiction thread too!!
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Last look it was 999,999 then I submitted mine. :P
Next refresh was 1M
You chould get double-pay for that ;D
Aye - and a double ration of grog!!!
Three cheers - Hip Hip Hoorah! Hip Hip Hoorah! Hip Hip Hoorah! Hats tossed into air
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Oh boy. Just saw this on Twitter from the Chicago Zooniverse conference:
@oldweather team talk has a 5 minute credits video... of all the user names who contributed!
;D
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A million pages ... sometimes I feel like I did them all
myself ::) Have I been working on this project too long?
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Picture the moment when the project ends....your friendly log books
sailing into a distant sunset....the endless hours to be spent stranded
on a shipless shore...
:'(
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NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! NO!
I don't even want to think about that. :'( :'( :'(
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You never know - it's possible you will tire of OW before the
project is finished! (If that seems unthinkable, just look back
through the "Addictions" thread and see how many names did manage to
kick the habit after all!)
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Of course OW will end one day, so just enjoy the project and the good company now. :)
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And who knows what future exciting projects Zooniverse may have in the pipeline!
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Way
to go, crew! Six hours leave to the starbd watch to be followed
by six hours leave to the port watch, and let's not see the subsequent
need for any Warrants dor be read by Janet Jaguar et al.
;D
It's
farewell from me for 6 weeks - off to Europe and the UK tomorrow
morning, back on 21 June. I expect HMS Glory to have been wrapped
up by that date!
Cheers,
Steeleye
Safe travels, Steeleye!!! Enjoy the break and we'll save some logs for you!! ;D
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Enjoy the narrow boats but be sure not to get hung up on the cills in the locks.
See
http://www.wikihow.com/Use-a-Narrowboat-Sized-Canal-Lock
(http://www.wikihow.com/Use-a-Narrowboat-Sized-Canal-Lock) for
info on locks.
Don't forget to fill in your logs for transcribing in another 100 yrs. ;D
P.S.
When did we start the first million?
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I'm all done-in for the day - especially after yesterday's
excitment. Does the Dockside Cafe do decaf coffee at all...and perhaps a
slice of toast and jam before turning in? A recommendation:
I tried the fried eggs, chips and mushy peas the other day - they were
excellent and very reasonable on the pocket :P :D
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...
P.S.
When did we start the first million?
We opened up for the first time in October 2010. Not a bad job for 18 months effort. ;D
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If your still around Steeleye, check out the sailthrough Fish & Chip shop on the Clyde..
http://twitpic.com/show/large/5p0kxk (http://twitpic.com/show/large/5p0kxk)
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whoo hoo - 1000 pages on the Foxglove!
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Just got kicked off Intrepid :).
Back to Glasgow. First page back and she has captured SS Santa Catherina (German)
Most fun I've had in the last 3494 entries. ;D
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Oooo! Care to share the exciting details? I'm helping out with the
Tamar and we are bobbing around in port with little to pass the days.
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Avast My Hearty.
Try
http://s3.amazonaws.com/oldweather/ADM53-42828/ADM%2053-42828-062_1.jpg
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Morning OW, very sunny here currently :)
Fame for Caro:
http://www.galaxyzooforum.org/index.php?topic=6950.msg603999#msg603999
(http://www.galaxyzooforum.org/index.php?topic=6950.msg603999#msg603999)
!
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Well, this week we have the met office yellow rain warnings.
So far the rain is light but we'll see. I'm fed up of having to
use the central heating though, but with max reading of 10C what else
can you do. I fear that summer this year was in March and we are now
into autumn.
:( :(
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Sunny down here too, so far.
Thanks Geoff for the link and Ava for helping with Tamar. :)
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Avast My Hearty.
Try
http://s3.amazonaws.com/oldweather/ADM53-42828/ADM%2053-42828-062_1.jpg
Thanks
Pommystuart! Great day - plenty of time for breakfast then
plenty of excitment - all whilst alotting prize money..multi-tasking
eh? :D :D :D
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Just passed Abrolhos Lighthouse in Glasgow (HMS not the Town ;D )
At least with the Glasgow I can find where she is, unlike my last vessel.
(http://www.traveltobrazil.org/uploads/2011/09/20/abrolhos_lighthouse.jpg)
The
Abrolhos Lighthouse is located at the Brazilian State of Bahia. It is
fixed at the top of Santa Barbara Island, the largest island of the
Abrolhos Archipelago, included in the Abrolhos National Marine Park.
This is one of the most powerful maritime lighthouses in the world,
surpassed in scope only by the lighthouse air Tetuan (airport Sania
Ranel) in Morocco, with 54 nautical miles of range.
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17th Sept 1914.
Not a good day on the Glasgow.
omqrult
7 entries in code, can anybody better that?
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Now off the Cape of Virgins Patagonia
Captain did not stop the ship. :( :(
All we saw was this lighthouse.
(http://www.patagonia-argentina.com/images/farocabovirgenes.jpg)
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Now off the Cape of Virgins Patagonia
Captain did not stop the ship. :( :(
All we saw was this lighthouse.
Is that why you didn't even buy us a tee-shirt?
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On our way back to 'That Cape", wonder if he will let us stop this time? :)
If so, then you may get your Tee shirts.
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Sorry, not this time either. :( :-[
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17th Sept 1914.
Not a good day on the Glasgow.
omqrult
7 entries in code, can anybody better that?
I think you equal the record with that one - see http://forum.oldweather.org/index.php?topic=1454.msg34596#msg34596
I
think there's been another 7 figure code mentioned somewhere on the
Forum since then, but as far as I am aware we are still waiting for 8!
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Fame
for Caro:
http://www.galaxyzooforum.org/index.php?topic=6950.msg603999#msg603999
(http://www.galaxyzooforum.org/index.php?topic=6950.msg603999#msg603999)
!
That is very cool - do we have a merchandising opportunity here? I'd buy that on a T-shirt!
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Do you really think there would be a market for Lighthouse Tee shirts ???
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That one yes, so long as you don't wear it around kids and their
parents. The parents would irate with you because of the questions
from the kids. ;D
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Just passed Abrolhos Lighthouse in Glasgow (HMS not the Town ;D )
I was just there a while ago in the Edinburgh Castle. Funny I didn't see you ;D.
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Do you really think there would be a market for Lighthouse Tee shirts ???
Not really, no! I think there's a market for this on a t-shirt! ::)
http://www.galaxyzooforum.org/index.php?topic=6950.msg603999#msg603999
Scroll
down to Caro's image of what I think may be HMS Kent? It would
have to be a black or a grey t-shirt though, I'm not interested in a
white one!
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17th Sept 1914.
Not a good day on the Glasgow.
omqrult
7 entries in code, can anybody better that?
I think you equal the record with that one - see http://forum.oldweather.org/index.php?topic=1454.msg34596#msg34596
I
think there's been another 7 figure code mentioned somewhere on the
Forum since then, but as far as I am aware we are still waiting for 8!
I had another 7 figure code - ocpqrtl on 2nd November 1919 on HMS Cardiff.
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Can anybody explain 'standard Compass course' (such as S55E) to me ???
TIA.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bearing_(navigation)#Types_of_bearings
Hopefully one of our sailors can explain it better. :)
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Can anybody explain 'standard Compass course' (such as S55E) to me ???
TIA.
I
have a friend who is a surveyor by trade. I'll ask her and see what I
can learn. I read what Janet sent and I understand but it makes 'no
sense' to me (and I AM a sailor!)
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Can anybody explain 'standard Compass course' (such as S55E) to me ???
TIA.
Where to start?
I imagine you know that this course is 55 degrees to the east of south. (That's the easy bit.)
A
ship would have had several compasses. The gyroscopic compass was
available before our timescale but I don't know when it was universally
fitted to RN ships. They are very accurate but become twitchy in cases
of frequent, quick changes of course (e.g. when a ship is manoeuvring at
speed "in action") as they take time to "settle". This could
have been the source for courses that are written as e.g. "S55E true". I
believe that the "Standard Compass" is the binnacle which is calibrated
by swinging the ship at designated locations and moving metal spheres
around its perimeter to adjust the "pointer" to the correct orientation.
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From Janets reference
5. In land surveying, a bearing is the
clockwise or counterclockwise angle between north or south and a
direction. For example, bearings are recorded as N57?E, S51?E, S21?W,
N87?W, or N15?W. In surveying, bearings can be referenced to true north,
magnetic north, grid north (the Y axis of a map projection), or a
previous map, which is often a historical magnetic north.
I missed that one because it referred to Land.
Thanks Bunts for your angle as well. (no orders for the tee shirt?)
It will now help me place a ship when the watch does not put a location. I can follow the course from last known.
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Thanks Bunts for your angle as well. (no orders for the tee shirt?)
D'you really think I'd buy a tee-shirt from a guy who purveys puns like that?
Light blue, 40 inch chest, please.
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As long as I get my 5% protection fee for any T-Shirt sales.
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I'll have to give this tee shirt thing some 'degree' ;D of
thought, 'cos' ;D if there is no 'sine' ;D of future sales
i'll give the idea away. ;D ;D ;D
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Sorry, not even close to the theme of this forum but thought you might like this story.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2144792/Redbull-skydivers-skies-high-Austria.html
(http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2144792/Redbull-skydivers-skies-high-Austria.html)
(I fly a Blanic but try not to fly it like these).
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you are just going off on a tangent there, aren't you PS :P
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Nice one ;)
Missed that one. :-[
I see what you are 'angling' about now. :o
Will 'log' for future so as not to go round in 'circles' :D
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That ability to integrate new information is what differentiates OW people from the rest :P
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At least we are not obtuse about it :P ;D
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No, we are very acute :P
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I love how we share our knowledge equilaterally here -
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Right!
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;D ;D
We approach things straight on!
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Isn't there anyone else here whose thinking parallels ours ?
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you know, our reactions are just reflexes -
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(heard in the background) GET BACK TO WORK YE SWOBS
Reply. "yar vold mine arctan." ;)
sorry.
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I rest my case....
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8)
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Good morning OW.
Today's secret is that it's DJ's birthday.
Happy birthday DJ!
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Happy Birthday, DJ!
(https://www.t-mobilepictures.com/myalbum/photos/photo04/b7/46/4a80603ae92a__1305653774000.jpg)
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Awww! Birthday stuff! Thanks, folks. :)
(Janet: Hey, I happen to be part Irish. Perfect.)
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Happy birthday DJ - hope you can celebrate with lots of time on OW!
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To Deej on his One Hundred & Eleventh Birthday
The years may pass,
the eye may dim and
the hearing wane,
but the heart is true,
and the spirit strong.
So charge your glass,
and raise it high.
A Happy Birthday to you
is our happy cry!
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Happy Birthday DJ!
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:D
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Some things are eternal ;D
http://start.toshiba.com/news/read.php?rip_id=%3CD9UQBKUO2%40news.ap.org%3E&ps=1011
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:D
Very appropriate!
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Happy birthday DJ!
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Wow, this is a nice way to wake up. Thank you, everyone.
A poem, nice greetings and a purty bottle. Heck of a deal.
And yes, Kathy, I was 111 last year, too. It's the new 39!
(Fair warning: Next year I'll be turning 111.) :D
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Have fun today, Mr. Baggins - ;D
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Happy Birthday, Deej!
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I'm on my way up to Wisconsin (West Bend) for a week, moving my
stepmother into assisted living. I'll try to check in and get my
OW fix, but I'm not sure how often I'll be able to connect to the
internet. Everyone take care and be good.
(http://www.smileyvault.com/albums/emoticons/object/object-emoticon-0009.gif)
;D
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Hope that all goes well, Janet, and that you can get the odd fix of
OW in amongst the moving. I promise to behave impeccably in your
absence (can't speak for some of the others though ....)
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::) :P
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I'm
on my way up to Wisconsin (West Bend) for a week, moving my stepmother
into assisted living. I'll try to check in and get my OW fix, but
I'm not sure how often I'll be able to connect to the internet.
Everyone take care and be good.
(http://www.smileyvault.com/albums/emoticons/object/object-emoticon-0009.gif)
;D
Been there, done that! God speed, Janet. We'll keep the light on here for you and LOTS of prayers for all concerned! ;)
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DJ
Happy Birthday to you,
Happy Birthday to you,
Happy Birthday dear DeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeJaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy,
Happy Birthday to you!
Hope it's a happy one and that you get lots of neat presents!
Hope also you get to share with family!
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Thanks! No presents yet, but I figure they're still
comin'. :) Lots of family, though, which is the best
part. And my oldest daughter is currently making "diabetic creme
brulee" for me, so that's pretty cool. And I'm not even dubious
about that. Really I'm not...
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To Captain HKohler.
Please sir can I have Liberty leave for 12 days.
I wish to go to 17? 44' 0" South, 168? 19' 0" East.
Thank you
pommystuart.
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(http://mygalaxies.s3.amazonaws.com/nzd283.png)
http://mygalaxies.co.uk/nzd283/
;D
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Incoming message at SETI?
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Incoming message logs at SETI?
;D
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2,000,000+
http://climateapps2.oerc.ox.ac.uk/cpdnboinc/team_display.php?teamid=9976
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Caro,
Nice collection!
Really great.
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2,000,000+
http://climateapps2.oerc.ox.ac.uk/cpdnboinc/team_display.php?teamid=9976
:o :o :o :o
2 MILLION + !!!
CONGRATULATIONS! AND JUBILATIONS! Well done!
Ava
PS - can't wait to boinc
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That's nothing!
(http://21stcenturylibrarianship.wikispaces.com/file/view/work-in-progress.gif/191442006/work-in-progress.gif)
;)
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that universal translator working yet - if so, sign me up! ;D
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That's nothing!
(http://21stcenturylibrarianship.wikispaces.com/file/view/work-in-progress.gif/191442006/work-in-progress.gif)
;)
;D ;D ;D
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To Captain HKohler.
Please sir can I have Liberty leave for 12 days.
I wish to go to 17? 44' 0" South, 168? 19' 0" East.
Thank you
pommystuart.
To Lieutenant Pommystuart.
Long leave granted. Have a nice holiday.
H.
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:D
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Jules has posted her notes from the Zooniverse Project Workshop in Chicago and one of Caro's pictures was highlighted.
Zooniverse Project Workshop (http://astrojules.wordpress.com/2012/05/17/zoocon1/)
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Thanks Geoff. :D
http://astrojules.wordpress.com/2012/05/18/zoocon1-day-2/
Case Study 2: Old Weather ? Philip Brohan
**Started with a round of applause for the 1 millionth log transcribed the previous night!**
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Thanks Geoff. :D
http://astrojules.wordpress.com/2012/05/18/zoocon1-day-2/
Case Study 2: Old Weather ? Philip Brohan
**Started with a round of applause for the 1 millionth log transcribed the previous night!**
Found
it strangely emotional reading that - thanks for posting it. And
the good news? Only 1% of ship's logs have been transcribed yet!
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And the bad news - funding needed. We need a philanthropist (or even two).
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And the bad news - funding needed. We need a philanthropist (or even two).
Play the various Lotteries??!!
With all our skill and all our countries we should be able to win SOMETHING!! ;D
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Get people to pay to transcribe :D
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I know, people pay for other addictions - I would probably pay something for this one ;D
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I know, people pay for other addictions - I would probably pay something for this one ;D
;D ;D ;D
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Absentee reporting back for duty. My internet connection has been down for 3 days >:(
Is that a good enough excuse to avoid a Warrant?
I had to resort to doing the housework to keep myself occupied! Off to check how much I've missed on my ships.
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You're excused. Welcome back jil.
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Do you ever have trouble clicking the elusive "edit" button when you
want to go back and make a correction? It's maddening when you have
hourly reports and the "edit" of one overlaps the "weather" of the
previous. >:( . It's like a dog trying to catch it's tail. I suppose I
could stagger them so that they don't overlap but this doesn't look
neat :D
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;D
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Do
you ever have trouble clicking the elusive "edit" button when you want
to go back and make a correction? It's maddening when you have hourly
reports and the "edit" of one overlaps the "weather" of the previous.
>:( . It's like a dog trying to catch it's tail. I suppose I could
stagger them so that they don't overlap but this doesn't look neat :D
Yes!
Regularly. And of course not knowing which one you might want to
go back and edit, you don't know which ones to stagger in the first
place.
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I'm too ocd to stagger them or leave them staggered ;D
If I get
the wrong one when I try to edit, I drag it out of the way, and I keep
doing that till I get to the right one. Then I put them all back. I
think I have mentioned that I am a very slow transcriber? ;)
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You put them all back :o. I'd say that's ocdvv ;D
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;D
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Good morning OW.
Happy birthday Geoff :D
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Morning OW and Caro - thanks for the birthday wishes.
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Happy Birthday Geoff!
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Many happy returns, Geoff!
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(http://www.gifs-paradise.com/animated_gifs/rockets/animated-gifs-rockets-01.gif)
Happy Birthday Geoff!
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To Geoff on HIS One Hundred and Eleventh Birthday -
Its not just Old Weather that you do,
to other projects you also hew.
I hope you are at your favorite pub,
which, as we know, is the Universe's hub.
And as you chew, ponder, and think;
please enjoy a Birthday drink!
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My dad used to call the number 111 'a half Nelson' - why? I have no idea at all
Happy half Nelsonth birthday Geoff! ;D
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I use 111th birthday for things because of Bilbo Baggins - the party
at the beginning of TLotR was for his 111th and Frodo's 33rd birthdays
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I love the passage about the party in TLOR. Bilbo's Eleventy First.
Nelson
is also used for 111 in cricket. There is as superstition that it can
be unlucky for batting teams. One famous umpire used to hop on one leg
all the time the score was on 111 or multiples thereof.
One theory is that Nelson had several bits missing, so only had one of them. (arms, eyes etc. )
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My dad used to call the number 111 'a half Nelson' - why? I have no idea at all
Happy half Nelsonth birthday Geoff! ;D
I love the passage about the party in TLOR. Bilbo's Eleventy First.
Nelson
is also used for 111 in cricket. There is as superstition that it can
be unlucky for batting teams. One famous umpire used to hop on one leg
all the time the score was on 111 or multiples thereof.
One theory is that Nelson had several bits missing, so only had one of them. (arms, eyes etc. )
I've only encountered "Half Nelson" in a wrestling context.
The umpire was David Shepherd who, previously, played for Gloucestershire.
There
is the erroneous belief that the three white tapes on a sailor's collar
represent Nelson's victories at the Nile, Copenhagen and Trafalgar; and
the salacious suggestion that they represent H. Nelson as having one
eye, one arm and one other thing that we shan't mention in mixed
company.
In a similar vein, I am sending each of you (in a plain,
brown paper, wrapped PM - because of the T&C) a link to a fairly
inappropriate, inaccurate, but very funny article. You don't have to
read it, obviously, and if anyone else would like it, just let me know.
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Happy Birthday Geoff!!!!!
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Morning OW - thanks for the many birthday wishes. I will be
celebrating this coming weekend with a day out in Greenwich with Alice
(moderator of Galaxy Zoo) plus other zooites. Will visit the planetarium
and hopefully the Maritime Museum and finish at the Greenwich Union for
some well-earned grog ;D
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I visited there a couple of years ago - before starting Old Weather.
Next time I visit my son (in Thamesmead) I might made a return trip, as
I'd be a lot more interested now
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Good morning, OW. We have sunshine! Almost forgotten what it looks like over the last six weeks or so ....
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Launch success for SpaceX mission (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-18154937)
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Launch success for SpaceX mission (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-18154937)
Oh
drat - just checked and ISS/SpaceX are visible just in the wee small
hours of the morning in the South UK...and the alt. is low. Oh well -
will just have to set the alarm and hope for the best.
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Good morning OW. Sunny AND warm. Happy days. ;D
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Good morning Caro!
Rousing chorus to open the lungs and welcome the day:
Oh the sun is a-shining to welcome the day
with a hey-ho come to the fair....
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Hi Ava. Forecast is for 26C tomorrow. It must be summer! :D
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Something is going on - we've had two glorious days with the same
forecast all week. OW work has taken a back seat - my WiFi isn't good in
the garden and the sunlight makes the screen hard to read. At least
that is my story and I'm sticking to it.
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Amazing Google homepage today by the way; Google UK anyway.
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Amazing Google homepage today by the way; Google UK anyway.
That is fun :)
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Devonshire 1 May 1917
Commenced and completed coaling.
'Monthly moneys paid. Issued soap and tobacco'
Now THAT makes sense - issue soap after coaling....what a novel idea!!! ;D
http://s3.amazonaws.com/oldweather/ADM53-39754/ADM%2053-39754-003_1.jpg
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Good morning one and all. It is glorious here in Oxford...sun & a pleasant balmy breeze. 8) :D
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Morning OW. Another sunny day - I'll be slapping on sunscreen later
and heading off to Greenwich for the day to celebrate Alice's birthday
with some other Zooites.
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Have fun Geoff. I know you will. ;D
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Rising CO2 promotes weedy rice (http://www.sciencenews.org/view/generic/id/340980/title/Rising_CO2_promotes_weedy_rice)
Undesirable variants preferentially thrive ? and cross with cultivated rice, transforming the crop into weeds
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My local newspaper has heard enough from me lately and my wife won't
listen to me anymore. I know I am preaching to the converted on this
site, but I had to tell somebody what I thought of SpaceX's
accomplishment ;D
It is marvellous that SpaceX has been
able to dock its Dragon spacecraft to the International Space Station.
It has shown that entrepreneurial spirit is still alive in the US, even
if the government is saddled with debt and unable to continue to
adequately fund NASA. The ISS is an important project not only for the
scientific spin-offs but because of the way space exploration captures
the imagination of Americans and the rest of the world. Few things
diminished the U.S.?s image as a technological leader as much as its
inability to continue servicing the ISS. Elon Musk?s success opens up a
whole new dimension of space exploration just at a time when pundits
have been speculating that the U.S. is a declining world force. And it
shows that billionaires are able to do useful things, rather than just
building themselves extravagant mansions in exotic places.
But as
much as this accomplishment is admirable there are much more urgent and
expensive problems to address on this side of the stratosphere.
Although mining asteroids and selling space joy rides to rich patrons is
impressive it will not solve any of the world?s most pressing problems.
The earth is on its way to becoming uninhabitable for humans and
establishing viable colonies on other planets or moons is mere fantasy.
There are tremendous technological and social challenges caused by
climate change that need to be addressed immediately and most
governments appear to be incapable of committing anything more than hot
CO2 to this problem. Moving away from fossil fuels as our
main planetary energy source is a priority but what we see mostly are
new, ingenious technologies to exploit previously inaccessible oil and
gas reserves. Alternative energy is promising but its development is
subject to the vagaries of government subsidies as long as there is no
serious international effort to put a realistic price on carbon. Carbon
capture and storage is about uncertain as the safe disposal of nuclear
waste so the world cannot count on this as a permanent solution.
Although new technologies will not be sufficient to turn around climate
change (if this is even possible) they are a necessary part of any
solution. So perhaps Elon Musk?s success will inspire other individuals
with vast financial resources to put some of their wealth where it will
do most good for the world, since North American governments are
unwilling or incapable of rising to this challenge.
Craig (a not so proud Canadian these days)
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(http://www.desismileys.com/smileys/desismileys_1851.gif) (http://www.desismileys.com/)
A politician thinks of the next election. A statesman, of the next generation.
Clarke, James Freeman
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My
local newspaper has heard enough from me lately and my wife won't
listen to me anymore. I know I am preaching to the converted on this
site, but I had to tell somebody what I thought of SpaceX's
accomplishment ;D
It is marvellous that SpaceX has been
able to dock its Dragon spacecraft to the International Space Station.
It has shown that entrepreneurial spirit is still alive in the US, even
if the government is saddled with debt and unable to continue to
adequately fund NASA. The ISS is an important project not only for the
scientific spin-offs but because of the way space exploration captures
the imagination of Americans and the rest of the world. Few things
diminished the U.S.?s image as a technological leader as much as its
inability to continue servicing the ISS. Elon Musk?s success opens up a
whole new dimension of space exploration just at a time when pundits
have been speculating that the U.S. is a declining world force. And it
shows that billionaires are able to do useful things, rather than just
building themselves extravagant mansions in exotic places.
But as
much as this accomplishment is admirable there are much more urgent and
expensive problems to address on this side of the stratosphere.
Although mining asteroids and selling space joy rides to rich patrons is
impressive it will not solve any of the world?s most pressing problems.
The earth is on its way to becoming uninhabitable for humans and
establishing viable colonies on other planets or moons is mere fantasy.
There are tremendous technological and social challenges caused by
climate change that need to be addressed immediately and most
governments appear to be incapable of committing anything more than hot
CO2 to this problem. Moving away from fossil fuels as our
main planetary energy source is a priority but what we see mostly are
new, ingenious technologies to exploit previously inaccessible oil and
gas reserves. Alternative energy is promising but its development is
subject to the vagaries of government subsidies as long as there is no
serious international effort to put a realistic price on carbon. Carbon
capture and storage is about uncertain as the safe disposal of nuclear
waste so the world cannot count on this as a permanent solution.
Although new technologies will not be sufficient to turn around climate
change (if this is even possible) they are a necessary part of any
solution. So perhaps Elon Musk?s success will inspire other individuals
with vast financial resources to put some of their wealth where it will
do most good for the world, since North American governments are
unwilling or incapable of rising to this challenge.
Craig (a not so proud Canadian these days)
Well
said Craig, I too share curiousity about what is outside our world but
we have so many problems here that we have to limit the money and brain
power we spend on exploring it. It worries me too that we dont pay the
real price of carbon, or of pesticides, pollution etc. More power to
you. K
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I get so frustrated at how slow everyone is about conserving
energy. Years ago I saw a documentary that visited hi-tech
power-eating families who has no electric bill because they had put up a
windmill in their back yard or roof. Any power it generates when
they are all at work or school gets fed into the grid and they actual
get a (tiny!) check from the power company instead of a bill, and their
savings paid for the mills in 3 years. But I've seen only one such
thing in the midwest, some dock-side industry in Milwaukee. That
tall windmill should not have looked so lonely.
At least the Chicago city gov is trying to encourage green roofs by setting an example. But we need much more than that.
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Pumping groundwater raises sea level
(http://www.sciencenews.org/view/generic/id/340873/title/Pumping_groundwater_raises_sea_level)
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I
get so frustrated at how slow everyone is about conserving
energy. Years ago I saw a documentary that visited hi-tech
power-eating families who has no electric bill because they had put up a
windmill in their back yard or roof. Any power it generates when
they are all at work or school gets fed into the grid and they actual
get a (tiny!) check from the power company instead of a bill, and their
savings paid for the mills in 3 years. But I've seen only one such
thing in the midwest, some dock-side industry in Milwaukee. That
tall windmill should not have looked so lonely.
At least the Chicago city gov is trying to encourage green roofs by setting an example. But we need much more than that.
Well,
there is a wind farm nearby in Kewaunee County, Wisconsin. But I think
all the electricity goes to Milwaukee because we have a coal plant AND a
nuclear power plant nearby.
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Every little bit helps. We just have to keep pushing for more, however long it takes.
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Packing up to fly off to San Francisco tomorrow morning; I'm hoping I
can get internet access where I'll be staying, so won't need shore
leave. But if I vanish for a few weeks - you'll know what happened
.... :D
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Have fun - and, not for anything, this country does have an East Coast too (just sayin)
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If I can find a reason, I promise I'll make it to the East Coast
(but we only have sisters on the West Coast, and that's my excuse for
getting there ....)
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;D
Well, I think you need to make a visit to the National Cathedral - got to check on the repair work from the earthquake ;)
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If
I can find a reason, I promise I'll make it to the East Coast (but we
only have sisters on the West Coast, and that's my excuse for getting
there ....)
If you make it ALMOST to the East Coast - stop in Niagara Falls.
We
got water - we got ships - and I promise a ride in a sailboat on Lake
Ontario! You can even write in the log so someone can read it in a
hundred years!!!! ;D
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Just a question....
Has everyone jumped ship on the Devonshire and I'm the only one left onboard??!! :'(
No numbers seem to change but mine in the last many days! :P
Have I become the 'Flying Dutchman'??!! ???
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Morning OW, a bit cooler this morning which is good, can't take much more of the hot weather!
The
tree surgeon is arriving this morning to remove the tree from my garden
as the roots are pushing up the flag stones and may start doing things
to the foundation which I don't want to think about.
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Just got back from 11 days of cruising New Caledonia and Vanuatu. :(
Amazing how the ground still rolls for a while.
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Just got back from 11 days of cruising New Caledonia and Vanuatu. :(
Amazing how the ground still rolls for a while.
That sounds great! Hope you kept proper weather records :D
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Good morning all and welcome back Stuart.
Photos from your cruise would be nice. :)
Morning OW, a bit cooler this morning which is good, can't take much more of the hot weather!
From the log book of HMS Fame: at Hong Kong on 21 June, 1914, it was 110F at midday and 112F at 4 pm. Just sayin'.
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Thanks.
Where and how would be the best way to send up a few pics?
Sorry
about the logs, seems like all the box's has G&T in them (Cannot
understand why ???), so I left them on board. ;D
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Hi Stuart, assuming you have copies of your photos on your computer, you can follow the instructions in
Posting
links and images
(http://forum.oldweather.org/index.php?topic=536.msg4663#msg4663), under
the 'To post sections of log pages or other pictures:' section.
If your pics are already saved in online albums that offer a forum link option you can post them directly from there.
Shout if you need more help. :)
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Some snapshots of my trip on the P&O Pacific Jewel.
The 'look
half way down' picture was taken at Penticost Island and is Land Diving
where they dive with a vine attached to their ankle.
The next kid to jump hurt himself really badly.
Check out the video (not mine, different jump, different day for an example of 'The Initiation into manhood')
ADDED JJ: Safe pop-up: http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=U8-4wMoLaIU&vq=medium
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Hi pommystuart - here's the url for the dive in safe 'pop-out'
http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=U8-4wMoLaIU&vq=medium
(I can't modify your whole youtube url so that it's family safe for sure..very best wishes, Ava)
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Looks like you had a sunny and great time in the exotic Pacific ocean! ;D ;D ;D
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Hello Pommystuart
Welcome back onboard. As I see you had a great time. Very nice pictures.
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Hi pommystuart - here's the url for the dive in safe 'pop-out'
http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=U8-4wMoLaIU&vq=medium
(I can't modify your whole youtube url so that it's family safe for sure..very best wishes, Ava)
Thanks Ava. I modified the original.
Pommy,
this is one of the few forum rules. The PTB don't want to have to
worry about opening a very diverse site to kids. (And they are
more worried about parental reactions.) Please use the pop-up
format for all YouTube links.
And that jump is downright scary - I don't trust any part of that contraption on any level.
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31 May 2012
This day in history: The Battle of Jutland took
place between the British Grand Fleet and the German High Seas Fleet on
the 31st May 1916 in the North Sea, off the mainland of Denmark.
Although it was the only major naval battle of World War I, it became
the largest sea battle in naval warfare history in terms of the numbers
of battleships and battlecruisers engaged, bringing together the two
most powerful naval forces in existence at that time.
(from Encyclo.co.uk)
Have we done those ships yet??
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Just a few more pic's that I liked. (sorry, first cruise since
leaving the Merchant Navy in 1972, and we don't go on holiday much)
1. Couldn't find the log to make a copy. (Isle of Pines)
2. ?? (Mistery Island)
3. This had an amphibious Humvee on board. (Port Villa)
4. The cruise ship. (Penticosta)
No more, promise.
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Morning all.
Post as many as you like, Stuart.
An amphibious Humvee? Essential. ;)
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Depolarizing climate science (http://www.sciencenews.org/view/generic/id/341082/title/Depolarizing_climate_science)
A very interesting perspective on how people look at the issue of global warming
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Summed up as 'I'm quite comfortable in my current rut, please don't disturb my equanimity.'
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Summed up as 'I'm quite comfortable in my current rut, please don't disturb my equanimity.'
Around here it's called 'NIMBY' -- Not In My Back Yard! ::)
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Greetings from San Francisco - it had just started to rain as we
left London (late) - but here the sun is shining and the forecast is for
the kind of temperatures we were getting back in England. Feeling
a bit bleary, but as you can see the internet connection is up and
running, so shore leave will not be needed! When the sunshine gets
too much I'll be back on Hilary around Iceland ....
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I hope you will enjoy your stay in San Fran!
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I hope you will enjoy your stay in San Fran!
Thanks
Kathy, I'm sure I will. It's such a beautiful city - and
accessible for a non driver (or at least a non driver in foreign parts!)
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I would love to go there one day - I have traveled all over, but I
have not yet been to the West Coast (or Alaska & Hawaii :P)
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I
would love to go there one day - I have traveled all over, but I have
not yet been to the West Coast (or Alaska & Hawaii :P)
Our sisters here have a nice little apartment for guests - takes two. Ask me if you want more info some time.
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The northwest coast is also something gorgeous to see - but outside
of Seattle, cars are an absolute must. There's actually a
temperate zone rain forest nestled between the Cascade mountains and the
ocean.
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I
would love to go there one day - I have traveled all over, but I have
not yet been to the West Coast (or Alaska & Hawaii :P)
Our sisters here have a nice little apartment for guests - takes two. Ask me if you want more info some time.
Are they planning to spread their influence further West? Kathy may wish to know ...
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It seems to have been a fun day, today.
I'm pleased I managed to snatch a few minutes to look in.
Thanks everyone. ;D
Just one question: are all polish teapots so splendid?
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we miss you -
:-*
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I second that emotion.
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third
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and fourth - not the same without your regular contributions - erudite, graphological, and just plain daft
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Fifth!
Maybe that's what you should do and HAVE a fifth!
hope things are getting better. We've been keeping you on our prayer list.
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sixth! missed your humour and knowledge! ;)
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Can I put in a seventh ? ;D
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And can I put in an eighth? ;D
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we miss you -
:-*
I will twice that
(You all do realise that you have missed Bunts less and less with each reply ? :P )
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Maybe we'll just reverse course, invert the fraction, and say
WE'VE MISSED YOU, BUNTS!!!!! ;D
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;D ;D ;D ;D
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we miss you -
:-*
I will twice that
(You all do realise that you have missed Bunts less and less with each reply ? :P )
Dean, thanks for trying to cheer me up but I think Stuart is right. In the words of the Kaiser Chiefs:
"Every day I love you less and less".
Mired
in embarrassment, I send greetings to all; especially to Mariomar who
has at last appeared on HMS Mantis' crew list. I knew someone else was
transcribing. Thanks Mariomar, your work is appreciated and has now been
duly recognised.
I have shifted some of the stuff with which I was lumbered for which I had volunteered and hope things will return to normal-ish soon.
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Good Morning 'Up and Over' from 'Down Under'.
Are you looking forward to another day of Pomp and guff. ;D
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Morning OW - will be heading out later to Blackfriars to watch the
pageant. Looks like rain all day so hope I can find a pub with a river
view that's not too crowded!
A great pity it finishes at London bridge and not Greenwich :(
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we miss you -
:-*
I will twice that
(You all do realise that you have missed Bunts less and less with each reply ? :P )
Dean, thanks for trying to cheer me up but I think Stuart is right. In the words of the Kaiser Chiefs:
"Every day I love you less and less".
Mired
in embarrassment, I send greetings to all; especially to Mariomar who
has at last appeared on HMS Mantis' crew list. I knew someone else was
transcribing. Thanks Mariomar, your work is appreciated and has now been
duly recognised.
I have shifted some of the stuff with which I was lumbered for which I had volunteered and hope things will return to normal-ish soon.
:'( :'( :'( :-*
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??? re OW.jpg
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Not involved but I would guess BOINC
Glad Bunts will be back, we miss our 'Old Salts'
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Yup ;D
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Look what I spotted today behind the Maritime Museum - a ship in a bottle!
(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8144/7336283986_a3af8ce101_z.jpg)
Off on the right is part of the olympic stand for the horse events.
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I like! Thanks Geoff.
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;D
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Hi Geoff,
How big is this bottle?!
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This should give you some idea szukacz: http://www.greenwich.co.uk/news/07923-ship-in-a-bottle-arrives-in-greenwich/
Yinka Shonibare's work measures 4.7m in length and 2.8m in diameter.
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:o OMG :o
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That must have been fun to drink it empty :P
You could almost get IN that bottle to build the boat! ;)
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A true sailor's bottle :P
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That must have been fun to drink it empty :P
You could almost get IN that bottle to build the boat! ;)
;)
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Fantastic! :D :D :D
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"I see," said the blind man as he picked up his hammer and saw!!!!!! ::)
Thanks for explaining it to me!
Great pictures!!
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Good morning OW. Back to normal in the UK after a four-day weekend.
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Good morning OW. Back to normal in the UK after a four-day weekend.
Sigh - heavy!!!!! :( :( :(
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Hi,
"Regatta" had super (little rain ;)), concerts, too.
I watched the Live in HD, but only while watching TV :(
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To Gastcra on his 111th Birthday
The word has come forth,
from the Great Snowy North,
Gastcra's birthday is today,
(or was it yesterday? ;D)
To which we all say, "Hip Hip Hurray"!
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Happy Birthday!
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Thanks Jill and Kathy! I am being coy about the precise date for
security reasons, although it's probably too late for that ;D
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'I am being coy about the precise date for security reasons,'
Erm - would it be safer to wish you a happy unbirthday for the next 364 days then, Alice? ;D ;D ;D
Happy birthday Craig...have a special time....
Ava
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If you're up to it, Ava, I won't complain :D
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;D ;D ;D
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Craig
Happy Birthday to you,
Happy Birthday to you,
Happy Birthday dear Craaaaaaaaaiiiiiiiiiiiiiiigggggggggggggggggggggg,
Happy Birthday to you!
Hope it's a happy one and that you get lots of neat presents!
Hope also you get to share with family! ;D
Blessings, Dean
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Thanks Dean. Thanks everyone :). My presents were having my family around me as well as all your good wishes.
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Happy Birthday, Craig!!! :)
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Morning/Afternoon/Evening all.
-2c this morning, frost on the ground but looks a great day coming up for gliding.
TAF
YGLB 081828Z 0820/0908 Terminal Aviation Forecast,
Goulburn, prepared on the 8th at 1828Z, valid from 8th @ 20Z till
9th @ 08Z
VRB03KT 9999 SCT025 Variable winds 3knts, visibility 9999mts or better, Scattered clouds @2500ft
FM090000 25007KT 9999 FEW030 Changes FroM from 9th @ 0Z, wind 250 @ 07kt, vis 9999mtrs or better, few clouds @ 3000ft
PROB30 0820/0824 0500 FZFG Probabiity 30%, 8th @ 20Z till 8th @ 24Z (don't know???) Freezing fog
RMK
T M02 04 11 12 Q 1025 1026 1025 1024 Temps and pressures in 4 hr intervals ex M02 is -2c at 1025hectopascals
Simple really (when you have the book to look at) :D
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Good morning OW.
Are you speaking in code Stuart?
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Aviation weather report.
Wrong board but relevant to me today.
See in blue below.
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Naval weather reports seem slightly simpler!
;D
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Craig,
I'm sorry that such a delay.
Happy birthday.
Salute of 31 guns:
(http://www.animatedgif.net/violent/civcan4_e0.gif)
Hip hip hurray
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Thanks, Szukacz. 31 is flattering ;D
Thanks also to ElizabethB.
You are all too nice to me. :)
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Has the OW server crashed (not the forum one) 16:40 AEST 06:40 UTC
I am getting a 500 Internal Server error.
I have also noted this elsewhere.
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Has the OW server crashed (not the forum one) 16:40 AEST 06:40 UTC
I am getting a 500 Internal Server error.
I have also noted this elsewhere.
I got that problem too. Lemme in!
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Me too! :'( :'( :'(
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Hi,
Login server of zooniverse ( https://login.zooniverse.org ) is effectively down.
Everything else seems to be working normally ( https://www.zooniverse.org/ and any oldweather.org page for example)...
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Looks like it might be the cheap white tonight. :-\
Will try again tomorrow. :-*
Goodnight.
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I've asked for assistance. Thanks for your patience.
The interface is back. ;D
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Helloooooooo? It's very quiet in here. :)
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Hello Caro...top of the morning to you.... ;D
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Morning. The sun's just come out! So out into the garden. Bye!!
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Good for you jil. :D
I work in an office without a
window :( - just light filtering through from another
office....it's agony watching a nice morning go by...but I just checked
the rainfall radar at the Met Office and this afternoon the deckchairs
will be back in the shed (sigh!). All the way from 'S; 2-3; b' to
'SW;4-5; opqr' ::) So enjoy that garden! :)
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Thanks, Ava, I did enjoy the garden. You've got to make use of the
occasional 'bc' in between the general 'qr'! Back to the transcribing
grindstone ;D
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The crew of Glasgow would have been happy today (9 June 1915) as
their xmas presents arrived from HRH Princess Mary :)
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There is nothing like the 12 degree FH with added snow the crew of
the Intrepid is suffering through to make one appreciate the terrible
Dutch summer we are having at the moment. I have nothing to complain
about :).
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Oh dear - Karijn we have been complaining about the UK summer (my
vine won't put out leaves for fear of frost bite still)..but I've seen
what you've had over your side of the channel and it looks truly
horrid...'qpru'. The Met Office rainfall radar just about shows the
Belgian/Dutch coast (to see it google: Met Office rainfall radar). The
other day it was one stream of pink/red/white....quite scary amounts of
rain.. commiserations! :(
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Ah well, just like you guys we are kind of used to it.
June 4th
we've had a day of the exact same temperatures that were measured on
Christmas day, which was kind of preposterous, but now it's mainly rain.
Thanks for the commiserations though :)
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I've just been looking up Exeter University's annual Maritime
History Conference, taking place on 1 & 2 September 2012, seeing
that it's on my doorstep. This is a link to the draft programme:
http://centres.exeter.ac.uk/cmhs/conferences/46_draft%20programme.pdf
Check out the speakers at the 10.15-11.45 session on the Saturday morning - I expect Philip was going to tell us eventually!
Anyway,
I am hoping to go to the conference and have put "Old Weather
Volunteer" on the registration form where they have asked for
"Institution"!
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I've
just been looking up Exeter University's annual Maritime History
Conference, taking place on 1 & 2 September 2012, seeing that it's
on my doorstep. This is a link to the draft programme:
http://centres.exeter.ac.uk/cmhs/conferences/46_draft%20programme.pdf
Check out the speakers at the 10.15-11.45 session on the Saturday morning - I expect Philip was going to tell us eventually!
Anyway,
I am hoping to go to the conference and have put "Old Weather
Volunteer" on the registration form where they have asked for
"Institution"!
Can't we persuade him to wear an 'Old Weather' t-shirt??
What an opportunity to use!
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I'd wear one as well - if we had one!
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HaHaHa! ;D ...I wondered who would be first back with that point. ;D
Another job for the budding artists amongst us!
Does anyone know Philip Brohan's chest size?
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The Columbella was anchored in Loch Ewe during April 1917. I thought
some of you might like to see a picture of Loch Ewe..which is
stunningly beautiful:
(http://)
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Lovely photo!
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Just spent a great morning at the San Francisco Maritime National
Historical Park - they have several historic ships at a pier on San
Francisco's waterfront, and for the amazing priceof $5 you can wander
all over them.
Not naval, and not quite our period - but wonderful
all the same. The best one as far as I was concerned was the
Balclutha, a square rigged ship built in Glasgow in 1886 and used
between Europe and San Francisco as well as various other parts of the
world. On one voyage from India to San Francisco the captain had
his wife on board, who gave birth to a daughter en route - she was named
India Frances to commemorate her unusual start in life.
Here's some more information if anyone's interested:
http://www.nps.gov/safr/historyculture/balclutha.htm
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The
Columbella was anchored in Loch Ewe during April 1917. I thought some
of you might like to see a picture of Loch Ewe..which is stunningly
beautiful:
(http://)
stunning is the word ! :o
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Just
spent a great morning at the San Francisco Maritime National Historical
Park - they have several historic ships at a pier on San Francisco's
waterfront, and for the amazing priceof $5 you can wander all over them.
Not
naval, and not quite our period - but wonderful all the same. The
best one as far as I was concerned was the Balclutha, a square rigged
ship built in Glasgow in 1886 and used between Europe and San Francisco
as well as various other parts of the world. On one voyage from
India to San Francisco the captain had his wife on board, who gave birth
to a daughter en route - she was named India Frances to commemorate her
unusual start in life.
Here's some more information if anyone's interested:
http://www.nps.gov/safr/historyculture/balclutha.htm
and that is just amazing. Just (almost) reliving history, as we do all the time :D
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I'd wear one as well - if we had one!
I'll work on it as soon as I get the 404 page done - or maybe they should be the SAME!!!!!!!! :D
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Happy Solstice, OW! (Aussie's also, just wear a good jacket when going out. ;) )
(https://www.t-mobilepictures.com/myalbum/thumbnail/photo13/5d/08/6a157b27f3dc__1340154477000.jpg?tw=0&th=720&s=true&rs=false)
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I think Steeleye should be back from holidays today.
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G'day Pommystuart and all shipmates. We arrived back in
Canberra this morning. More precisely, our bodies returned, while
our consciousness is still several time zones away (Lady Steeleye is
currently deep in the Land of Nod). The human body is ill-designed
to handle 32 hours of door-to-door travel across 9 time zones. I
don't think that any log transcription will be done this afternoon - the
errors would considerably outnumber any useful numbers.
Our
visit to the newly reopened Cutty Sark was definitely a highlight, as
was the couple of hours that I spent on HMS Belfast in the Pool of
London. While on the Belfast, I took a photograph of her
Transmitting Station (TS). As I recall, the abbreviation 'TS' was
the subject of a 'What does that mean' query on one of the forum threads
a few months ago. I'll post the photo once I get it downloaded.
Good to be back.
Steeleye
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Hi Steeleye.
I want to know how the Narrow Boating went. (when you get over the jetlag)
Stuart.
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Good morning OW.
Glad to hear you are safely home in Canberra, Steeleye.
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Steeleye.
Drop into Bowral and tell us all about it.
Stuart. (pommystuart)
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Steeleye, Welcome back. You only just missed Glory being completed. :(
Hope you had a great holiday and the jet lag isn't too bad.
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Hi Jil, Caro & Stuart,
Jetllag? What jtelga ... latjeg ... oh, forget it.
I
sneaked a look at oldweather while we were in London and noticed that
Glory was running at about 90% complete. On checking again after
getting home I find that she has been wound up! I will miss her
logs as she always seemed to have an interesting life.
The Narrow
boating was quite good fun, Stuart, although there were some days when
there seemed to be more water on the decks than under the hull. It did
rain just a little bit. A slight downside to this part of the
holiday was the persistent leak above one corner of our double
bunk. Has anyone ever tried sleeping with a saucepan on the bed to
keep the dripping water out the bedding? If we ever do a narrow
boating holiday again, I think that I will look for a canal that is
slightly less popular than the Oxford. We had a lot of trouble
finding moorings in walking distance of civilisation (ie pubs) and on
some stretches there were more moored boats (many permanently moored)
than you find cars in a shopping mall carpark on a Saturday morning
before Christmas.
Cheers,
Howard
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FIVE Million !
(http://boincstats.com/signature/-1/team/54739893/sig.png)
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A very prophetic weather code at 4 AM ;D
http://s3.amazonaws.com/oldweather/ADM53-40589/ADM%2053-40589-018_1.jpg
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?dew. 10 that night didn't look like a bundle of laughs though ;)
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A very prophetic weather code at 4 AM ;D
http://s3.amazonaws.com/oldweather/ADM53-40589/ADM%2053-40589-018_1.jpg
;D ;D ;D ;D
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duh! 'OW' - Old Weather - ermm - now where did I put that brain of mine?? :-[ ::)
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duh! 'OW' - Old Weather - ermm - now where did I put that brain of mine?? :-[ ::)
An obvious symptom of OW addiction when you only see the weather codes and not context ;D
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duh! 'OW' - Old Weather - ermm - now where did I put that brain of mine?? :-[ ::)
An obvious symptom of OW addiction when you only see the weather codes and not context ;D
It's a fair cop guv!!! ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Morning OW, lovely sunny day today :)
There was a big
festival in the City of London over the weekend and a lot of the
guildhalls and churches were open to visitors. I took the following
picture in the ancient crypt under the Guildhall.
(http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5458/7438513184_faf570e604_z.jpg)
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Lovely pic and very appropriate.
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Wow! Thanks Geoff. Sunny here too, which makes a pleasant change.
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Beautiful, Geoff.
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Isn't that Bunts holding up the antenna (- top left), cocoa in other hand?
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Isn't that Bunts holding up the antenna (- top left), cocoa in other hand?
;) ;)
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;D ;D
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I think Caro should design us a crest using the sea horses from the window along with something navyish - ;D
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And it could go on the t-shirt!
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OK OK. ;D I'll think about it.
Good morning all.
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Good morning Caro and Stuart.
Put me on the list for the T-shirt when it comes out ;D
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Hello h. Which colour would you like? ;)
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Hello Caro. White and blue are nice colors. :D
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size 105 please
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'Admiralty Grey' - Large ;D
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size 105 please
I do hope that size is not in inches.
??? :o
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Google has very interesting links on their home page today.
New! The world through 3,054 lenses. Explore the Endangered Languages project (http://www.endangeredlanguages.com/)
They are looking at the thousands of endangered languages and ethnic cultures world wide. Interesting.
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I just thought to find out more about barometers - and found this humorous, cheeky, bit of techno-speak { ;)}
"Remember,
the barometer is telling you what the weather is going to be, not the
current weather. The instrument for the current weather is called a
window. "
And now I know that, whereas I do not own a barometer, I
have a suitable selection of current weather instruments about the
house. ;D
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Must mean Microsoft Windows with IE. ;D
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I just thought to find out more about barometers - and found this humorous, cheeky, bit of techno-speak { ;)}
"Remember,
the barometer is telling you what the weather is going to be, not the
current weather. The instrument for the current weather is called a
window. "
And now I know that, whereas I do not own a barometer, I
have a suitable selection of current weather instruments about the
house. ;D
;D
And
then there's the mobile version: the top of your head. It becomes more
accurate with age. It used to take several minutes for rain to penetrate
to my scalp. Now it takes mere seconds. :(
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;D
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;D ;D ;D
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I just thought to find out more about barometers - and found this humorous, cheeky, bit of techno-speak { ;)}
"Remember,
the barometer is telling you what the weather is going to be, not the
current weather. The instrument for the current weather is called a
window. "
And now I know that, whereas I do not own a barometer, I
have a suitable selection of current weather instruments about the
house. ;D
;D
And
then there's the mobile version: the top of your head. It becomes more
accurate with age. It used to take several minutes for rain to penetrate
to my scalp. Now it takes mere seconds. :(
I
discovered last summer that my head is also becoming a much better
measure of UV strength than it used to be. Despite the shine the rapidly
developing dome is now susceptible to sunburn!!!
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Seems like you and Bunts have scientific instruments in common - Reply #2675 above! ;)
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I was thinking of Philip today - we were hit by a derecho - not just
a derecho but a SUPER derecho - not something I recommend ;D, but
interesting thanks to the log books -
If you are curious about it -
here is a link:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/capital-weather-gang/post/derecho-behind-washington-dcs-destructive-thunderstorm-outbreak-june-29-2012/2012/06/30/gJQA22O7DW_blog.html
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Must mean Microsoft Windows with IE. ;D
I'm a MAC owner. I don't do windows ;D
(Except
when my wife hands me a cloth and says to clean the outsides since I'm
the only one to sit on the ledge and wash them) :D :D :D
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I
was thinking of Philip today - we were hit by a derecho - not just a
derecho but a SUPER derecho - not something I recommend ;D, but
interesting thanks to the log books -
If you are curious about it -
here is a link:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/capital-weather-gang/post/derecho-behind-washington-dcs-destructive-thunderstorm-outbreak-june-29-2012/2012/06/30/gJQA22O7DW_blog.html
Hope you are safe and OK. That was a REALLY bad one!
Blessings, Dean
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That's some bad weather Harry.
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I know how rough the storms were when they blew through Chicago in
their tiny infancy. I don't want to even think about what that
built up to after traveling a thousand miles. It's all this
above-100f-heat generating its own weather, I think.
Kathy and Carolyn, are you both okay?
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I'm fine - I don't know about Carolyn - we lost our power Friday
night and got it back today at 5:30pm - and GOOD NEWS - another derecho
may be forming and heading our way (if so, it will be here about 1:00am)
- apparently, the conditions are the same as Friday - excessive heat
and humidity, etc. The Washington Post article raised an
interesting point that the storm Friday may be the result of climate
change. If so, I think I'll move ;D.
Here's hoping nothing happens :P ::)
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Take care of yourselves, as much as possible.
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thanks - it now seems as if the storms will pass to our south -
hopefully that will break up the bow - the radar video from the Post
article is cool - worth the watch.
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I did watch it - it made me aware just how lucky Chicago got with that front!
Just
watched the evening news - I sincerely hope it misses you, our western
suburbs here just had another derecho this afternoon, 60 to 90 miles per
hour (force 10 to 14 in RN terms) and 250,000 households without
power. The lake effect seems to have pushed it away from us in the
"near the lake" zone, thank goodness. Take care and keep safe
when it approaches.
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Thinking of all of you who live in the way of this dramatic weather - hope you all come through safely and without damage.
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I've just looked up the Chicago 10 day weather forecast...you are
burning up folks! :o I'd suggest celebrating July 4th by
putting your feet in icecold buckets of water. :P
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We dodged the 2nd bullet early this morning - the storms came thru,
but it was just like a thunderstorm - I slept thru the whole thing
;D ::), but my husband woke up - some wind, lightning, and rain -
nothing to write home about -
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The Washington Post article raised an interesting point that the storm
Friday may be the result of climate change. If so, I think I'll
move ;D.
Where
to? You might remember the story of the fellow who wanted to get away
from all the madness so he moved to the Falkland Islands. Guess
when? ;D
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I've
just looked up the Chicago 10 day weather forecast...you are burning up
folks! :o I'd suggest celebrating July 4th by putting your
feet in icecold buckets of water. :P
Chicago's
on the edge of the heat bubble, thanks to the lake. Which means
we are more at risk for storms. And don't believe 10 day
forecasts, the lake effect weather coming from Lake Michigan scrambles
everything looking at more than 3 days in the future.
It'll be a good 4th, if the storms disperse by evening but definitely hotter than most.
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I
know how rough the storms were when they blew through Chicago in their
tiny infancy. I don't want to even think about what that built up
to after traveling a thousand miles. It's all this above-100f-heat
generating its own weather, I think.
Kathy and Carolyn, are you both okay?
Hi, Janet & Kathy--
We're fine--lost power late on Friday, but it was restored late on Saturday, so we were very lucky.
More heat in the forecast--hope both of you are keeping cool!
C.
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I was thinking Canada - beautiful scenery, nice weather, pleasant people...
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I was thinking Canada - beautiful scenery, nice weather, pleasant people...
WINTER
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I was thinking Canada - beautiful scenery, nice weather, pleasant people...
We
do have the odd tornado where I live (in Quebec near Ottawa) but as
natural disasters go I think the Ottawa River valley is a relatively
safe place. Winter is cold but climate change is gradually taking care
of that. It rarely gets cold like it used to when I first moved here.
Canada has it share of not-nice people too. Some of them are running the country now. ;D
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Well, I don't think cold is as bad as heat - I learned a few things growing up in east Texas and Louisiana:
1) Dead alligators never smell good, no matter how much beer and cologne you pour on them.
2) Don't swim in lakes, ponds, creeks, or rivers.
3)
There is only so much you can take off and still be socially
acceptable, but you can always wrap up in another blanket.
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;D ;D ;D
Very sound advice !
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Come to western New York State. 8)
We don't have alligators.
We don't have poisonous snakes, scorpions, etc. .
We don't have mosquitoes the size of 747s.
We don't have hurricanes, tornados, floods, or typhoons (usually!)
The snow EVENTUALLY melts (might be July ;))
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We do not have polar bears! ;) ;D
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At least not after the hail storms ;D
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Happy 4th July (to those to whom it applies) and Happy 4th to everybody else. ;D
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Happy 4th July! Have a belter of a day! Have a tea party in Boston why not?! ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Happy 4th of July to all our American friends and to everyone else as well ! ;D ;D ;D
so funny, Ava ! ;D
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We do not have polar bears! ;) ;D
Polar bear
Juan
Perez, 11, male 01987-05-19May 19, 1987 Brooklyn, New York Perez
was killed by two Polar bears after climbing a fence in Prospect Park
Zoo, Brooklyn, New York. The bears were killed by Police
Officers.[119] ;D
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A Happy 4th of July to all, whether or not you're American. Enjoy the day.
(http://www.desismileys.com/smileys/desismileys_2593.gif)
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Why do the Americans celebrate this ???
This day in history:
It
was on the 4th July 1862 when, while sailing with Dean Liddell's
daughters, Lewis Carroll narrated for the first time Alice's Adventures
Underground which he `began to write for Alice`.
Well back to the cup of Tea for me.
;D ;D ;D
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Happy 4th July! Have a belter of a day! Have a tea party in Boston why not?! ;D ;D ;D ;D
In the picture I see almost all the members of our forum. At hand we are doing a buffet barbecue under the eye. ;D ;D ;D
Excellent photo of our team!
A Happy 4th!
Turkeys run!
In total, there is nothing to celebrate. Nicolas C. stole what he had to steal :)
Oh, these shows of fireworks.
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"Old Weather has 12 incomplete vessels"
You people are machines! :o
There were too many to count last time I checked (admittedly too long ago).
And hello again... ;D
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Welcome back ;D
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Welcome back, Sean. and hang around for Phase III ships!
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Couldn't resist sharing these very natural phenomena ;D
Antarctic moss lives on ancient penguin poo (http://www.bbc.co.uk/nature/18704332)
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Yup, that's about as natural as you can get. Very interesting.
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Picking up Medicine Ball. Exrcise session got out of control?
http://s3.amazonaws.com/oldweather/ADM53-41097/ADM%2053-41097-010_0.jpg at 5 PM
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Andy Murray just came out onto centre court - see you all later! :-\ ???
oh well - there's always next year :'( :'( :'(
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Hello OW!
Wherever you go in this world, he's been there before you ... ;)
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8)
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What a find! ; :D
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;D ;D ;D
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Excellent find! ;D ;D ;D
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For the Archives!!! ;D ;D ;D
Wait!! Number 40??!! I thought he lived at Number 10 ;)
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Hello OW!
Wherever you go in this world, he's been there before you ... ;)
Pity you weren't using the wide angle lens; the blue plaque doesn't show.
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For the Archives!!! ;D ;D ;D
Wait!! Number 40??!! I thought he lived at Number 10 ;)
;D
I've
been biting my tongue and sitting on both my hands to avoid a posting
that would get me banned from the whole internet and give me the
opportunity to inspect the inside of the Tower of London for a lengthy
spell. ::)
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send me your response in a PM - I would love to know what would get you banned from the Net! ;D
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Maybe Bunts lives in this place ?
http://www.snell-david.co.uk/portfolio/interiors/bunts-place-surrey
(http://www.snell-david.co.uk/portfolio/interiors/bunts-place-surrey)
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I don't know, he really may be moving around! I found these 2, googling maps. ;D
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But not Bunts Towers? So these must be the holiday homes. :P ;D
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No Bunts Castle or Folly either. (Yet) ;D ;D
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What a find, Janet.. a place called Anchorage at a place called Bunts Hill...fab ;D
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Will the Real Bunts House please stand.
(That should jog a few memories)
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I'm heading off tomorrow morning on long shore leave - see you all
in a fortnight! And please don't snaffle all the Phase 3 ships
before I get back .... :D - as if you would!
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have fun - and darn tootin' we would :P
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have fun - and darn tootin' we would :P
:P ;) :D
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;) ;D ;D
sorry, couldn't resist ;D
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Good morning OW.
See you in two weeks, Helen. Have a great time!
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Nothing to do with OW, but I thought it was interesting ;)
Hobson-Jobson: The words English owes to India (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-18796493)
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Good morning OW, good morning Lollia.
Oops. And Steeleye.
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...and to everyone this evening, in the local patois, "G'day".
8)
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Good morning OW, good morning Lollia.
Oops. And Steeleye.
Good Afternoon, Caro :)
I just read your post.
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Good morning, Els, Steeley, Lollia, Ava - just checking in before
going out for coffee. It's another hot day sunny day in Chicago;
we really need to trade weather with some of you to get some rain to
break this drought!
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You might be interested in and article in lastest (July 7-13)
NewScientist, "Driven to Extremes: Is Global Warming Driving Our Weather
Wild?"
The answer is yes, but current models don't explain the
unprecedented extremes we have experienced. Some of the causes not
heretofore anticipated are: a lazy jet stream caused by a reduced
temperature differential between tropics and poles (this can cause
weather systems to stall in one place for extended periods); drying soil
because of plant die-off (this puts more of the heat into the
atmosphere rather than being absorbed by the ground). Also, there is
evidence that the anomaly distribution of summer temperatures is not
only shifting to the right (warmer) but flattening. This gives more
unexpected extremes (perhaps explaining the snow in Tripoli - although
that might be attributed to Gaddafi :D). And all this is with only
a 0.8 increase over the 1950 average. Not looking good for the future.
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Oh willingly Janet! We'll all be hobbling with trench
foot over here soon. I'm off to Exeter in about a week's time and I fear
what we're going to - yesterday Exmoor got a severe drenching.
Sounds like you are having what we got in 1976 - a scorcher and drought
that we thought we'd never get over. How's the temperature today (well -
once you've got your head working after coffee!)?
We've got patchy
rain today: http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/weather/uk/radar/ (we are
half way between the town spots for Cardiff and London pretty much) but
they are promising horrid things for tomorrow. My grass is too wet
to get onto now.
Stay cool! 8)
Ava
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You
might be interested in and article in lastest (July 7-13) NewScientist,
"Driven to Extremes: Is Global Warming Driving Our Weather Wild?"
The
answer is yes, but current models don't explain the unprecedented
extremes we have experienced. Some of the causes not heretofore
anticipated are: a lazy jet stream caused by a reduced temperature
differential between tropics and poles (this can cause weather systems
to stall in one place for extended periods); drying soil because of
plant die-off (this puts more of the heat into the atmosphere rather
than being absorbed by the ground). Also, there is evidence that the
anomaly distribution of summer temperatures is not only shifting to the
right (warmer) but flattening. This gives more unexpected extremes
(perhaps explaining the snow in Tripoli - although that might be
attributed to Gaddafi :D). And all this is with only a 0.8
increase over the 1950 average. Not looking good for the future.
Hmmm...lets transcribing then - and hope! :P
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How's the temperature today (well - once you've got your head working after coffee!)?
High
80s to low 90s (29c to 34c) near the lake, several degrees hotter
inland. No where near as punishing as the first week in July, with
a high of 103f (40c). It's the lack of rain that is
worrying. This is month the corn crop pollinates, and if it
doesn't get more water in some fields, there won't be any ears. I
love pure clear blue skies as they are somewhat rare near this much
water, but I'm starting to wish to see the clouds return.
I'm not
sure what the calculation the numbers show, but the colors tell the
story. It's recording the above-below average temps in the lower
48 states for an entire year.
(http://blogs.palmbeachpost.com/weathermatters/files/2012/07/July2011-June2012-temps-e1341937121844.jpg)
I
should add, some of the wildness is just because the center of the
continent has always had extremely strange years of bad weather.
The heat records we broke last week by just 1 degree F were set in 1911.
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Oh my! That's just scarey! :o I just read the Reuters report from Monday...not happy reading.
In
1975 we had a long hot dry summer that led to a very dry autumn, winter
and spring. In the summer of 1976 it got so hot here that we did have
blue skies most of the time too...it got so dry that ladybugs would leap
off bushes to bite you just for any liquids they could get.
Luckily the early wheat had received just enough water to make a crop,
the late stuff was a very poor yield*. The problem seemed to be that the
land just got so hot that the water evaporating off it (less and less
each day) couldn't cool enough to rain. Once we hit September 14th (it
was the day I left home, and only a few days off the autumn equinox) it
started to rain - and did so pretty much until Christmas.
So
I'll **keep my fingers crossed** for the USA corn - the farmers must be
so worried. Still more so I'll hope that the rain is gentle since water
coming down like stair rods (or egg sized hailstones) won't help!
Ava
*From Wiki:
The
drought was at its most severe in August 1976. Parts of the south west
went 45 days without any rain in July and August. As the hot, dry
weather continued, devastating heath and forest fires broke out in parts
of Southern England. 50,000 trees were destroyed at Hurn Forest in
Dorset. Crops were badly hit, with ?500 million worth of crops failing.
Food prices subsequently increased by 12%.
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Yes, fires are part of it. The fire season this year started months early. It's just plain difficult.
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Oh
willingly Janet! We'll all be hobbling with trench foot
over here soon. I'm off to Exeter in about a week's time and I fear what
we're going to - yesterday Exmoor got a severe drenching. Sounds
like you are having what we got in 1976 - a scorcher and drought that we
thought we'd never get over. How's the temperature today (well - once
you've got your head working after coffee!)?
We've got patchy rain
today: http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/weather/uk/radar/ (we are half
way between the town spots for Cardiff and London pretty much) but they
are promising horrid things for tomorrow. My grass is too wet to
get onto now.
Stay cool! 8)
Ava
Exeter
is a bit squelchy at the moment (well, my garden is anyway) but we
survived last weekend - though the Exe was something to see on Sunday -
so I'm sure the city will still be standing for your visit! It's
going to be pretty busy most of the week, though, as it's graduation at
the university.
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Hi Thursdaynext!
That's interesting - I think we are staying just
a few miles S of Exeter. There are quite a few of us (about 14 -
max is 19) who are Pub quizzers (don't get much time for that these days
though). We get a week away together each summer - it's my favourite
week of the whole year, what-ever the weather! ;D
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Yes, fires are part of it. The fire season this year started months early. It's just plain difficult.
Janet - you'll feel some empathy with these guys then - they are just frying in the treetops despite the breeze!
I
won't put down the URL because of forum rules but if you google
this: Audubon Live Cams: Osprey you should see
some (perfectly respectable!) hot chicks ( ;))
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Yup, definitely some hot chicks ! ;D ;D
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;D ;D
Are you frying 'across the pond' too ElizabethB? :-\
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Nope. Over here it is Summer ! Summer I'm telling you.
Meaning, rain, almost but not quite 20?C or colder and did I mention rain ? ;) ;D
Add a dollop of thunderstorms and a bit of wind and you get the picture ! ;D ;D
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We've just had two dry days in succession. Not that warm but no
rain. I was looking at my wardrobe and my laundry bin - most of the
contents of the 'bin' are autumn/winter and much of the summer contents
of the wardrobe has only been worn went I went to South Africa on
holiday. You can see why the clothes retailers are having a bad time.
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;D ;D
Yeh - my shorts need a stitch in time - and I'm wondering if it's worth the effort! ::) :P
I
guess as long as we can get the kids onto the beach a few times we'll
be OK..there will be something to do in wet weather no doubt. :D :D
It's so hard typing with ten crossed fingers! ;D
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Now that is a sight I'd like to see ! ;) ;D ;D
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You are a woman of strong constitution then! ;) ;) ;D
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;D ;D
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Nope. Over here it is Summer ! Summer I'm telling you.
Meaning, rain, almost but not quite 20?C or colder and did I mention rain ? ;) ;D
Add a dollop of thunderstorms and a bit of wind and you get the picture ! ;D ;D
Are we both in the UK then? You can check this by answering the following questions:
Do you daily fear drowning at the bus stop?
Have you re-registered your home address as 'Venice'?
Has your umbrella put in an excessive claim for overtime?
Has your winter duvet put in an excessive claim for overtime?
Have you started eating icecream because that's what they do in Moscow when it's -40C?
If you have answered 'yes' to all of the above - yep - you're over my side of the 'pond' in blighted Blighty ;D ;D ;D
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;D ;D ;D
Sorry, not Blighty but it starts with a B all the same
(Belgium ! ::) :o ;D ;D)
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Oh! The UK Met Office rainfall radar (google the last 4 words)
just about shows Belgium..and you've certainly had it bad...there's
been a few times this 'summer' when I noticed some very horrid stuff
hitting Belgium and Holland. Sympathies! :-[ :-*
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I should have offered to trade weather with Europe before this - all
this afternoon and evening WE HAVE RAIN!!! They predicted some
scattered storms in the south suburbs this afternoon, and we in the near
north got them instead. Very much appreciated! ;D
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YAY!!!! Happy raindrops for you! ;D ;D ;D
Goodnight all - time to darken ship at my end!
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A total 'aside' here - I was trying to find a consolidated list of
UK Colliers (Intrepid's handwriting still causing problems) when I
tripped over this amusing nugget from Wiki:
'A notable incident
involving a collier occurred not long after the opening of the Victoria
Tunnel in Newcastle. The hemp rope which controlled the speed of wagons
descending the tunnel to the river from Spital Tongues Colliery snapped,
and the wagons landed in the Tyne. This time, the wagons were recovered
at low tide, the rope was repaired, and the papers of the day treated
the whole incident as something of a joke. Six months later, the rope
snapped again, and the wagons landed in the hold of a waiting collier
and sank it. After this, it was decided a wire rope would be a better
option. This is probably the only recorded incident of a train having
sunk a ship.' ;D ;D
Well - anyone aware of a ship de-railing a rain, then?? :D
(Actually I can guess one circumstance where it might have happened...but I'll wait and see... ;))
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It has actually happened here in the states - a barge hit a
rail bridge about 7 minutes before an Amtrak passenger train got to the
bridge - over 100 people were killed or injured.
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Lawks! That takes the smile out of it! What a terrible co-incidence of time. How awful :o :'(
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One that was really bad:
Alabama, 1993
http://www.nytimes.com/1994/06/22/us/barge-pilot-blamed-in-fatal-amtrak-wreck.html
And some when the bridge was thankfully empty.
http://www.nytimes.com/2003/02/08/nyregion/barge-strikes-railroad-bridge-forcing-amtrak-to-detour-trains.html
http://cs.trains.com/trccs/forums/p/126852/1429783.aspx
http://www.post-gazette.com/stories/local/breaking/breakaway-barges-hung-up-on-neville-railroad-bridge-295182/
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/story/2011/06/28/bc-new-westminster-railway-bridge.html
I guess its harder for the trains to get near enough to the water to hit the ship, although not the other way around.
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Dear oh dear! What a set of calamities! :(
UK barges (most of) are too wee to do damage to that extent.
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Truck sinks submarine: http://forum.oldweather.org/index.php?topic=209.msg46417#msg46417 ;D
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Please send rain here! We got abut 10 drops this
morning. The area has been declared a G1 draught area and will
likely escalate from there. Many farmers are losing crops.
:-[ As of last thursday - Lake Ontario is 7" (17.5cm) below it's 100
year average. :o This is expected to get much worse. :-[
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Being downstream of the other lakes seems to have moderated the effect by you.
http://www.cbs58.com/news/local-news/Concerns-Over-Lake-Michigan-Water-Levels-162306456.html
...A
board made up of commissioners from the United States and Canada that's
working on a new plan to manage water levels on Lake Michigan, Superior
and Huron, held a public hearing in Milwaukee Thursday night to listen
to those concerns.
"We've been experiencing about 13 years I
think of sustained dropping water levels on Lake Michigan and Huron,
which I think everyone in this room is very concerned about," said
Cheryl Nunn with Milwaukee Riverkeepers.
Nunn is right. This
area's most valuable natural resource is now eight inches lower than
July of last year, and 21 inches below its long-term average. ...
And in the whole Mississippi River system - which stops lots of cheap transportation of bulk goods by water.
http://www.accuweather.com/en/weather-news/drought-could-impact-mississip/67963
The
ongoing drought has river levels along the Mississippi River plunging
to very low levels this summer and could stall barge traffic in some
areas into the autumn if rainfall does not come soon.
... As of July
14, the river level at St. Louis is 3.9 feet and falling and is
projected by NWS Hydrologists to dip to under 2.0 feet around July 20.
According
to St. Louis Army Corps of Engineers Public Affairs Chief Mike
Peterson, "At the low water reference point of minus 3.5 feet, a safety
zone is established in the navigation channel and some restrictions by
the United States Coast Guard may be put in place."
The river bottom
of the Mississippi is dynamic, always changing so that barge companies
and pilots will police themselves until mandatory restrictions are in
place. ...
(http://vortex.accuweather.com/adc2004/pub/includes/columns/newsstory/2012/400x266_07141811_levels.jpg)
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Please
send rain here! We got abut 10 drops this morning. The area
has been declared a G1 draught area and will likely escalate from
there. Many farmers are losing crops. :-[ As of last
thursday - Lake Ontario is 7" (17.5cm) below it's 100 year average.
:o This is expected to get much worse. :-[
Dean,
I wish I could, I so wish I could. 7" off a lake that size is an
unbelievable volume of water. Is there any hope of rain for you?
:(
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Dean, I don't know if this will give you any hope, but in April
large parts of the UK were declared drought areas. It started
raining within days and has barely stopped since. Last weekend, in
Devon where I live, we had a month's worth of rain in a matter of
hours. A similar thing happened in 1976 when we had a fabulous
summer and a Minister for Drought was appointed - again it started
raining persistenly within days. So now your area has been
declared a drought area the rain should be starting anytime soon!
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And here in our part of the south-east of the UK, we were relieved of the ban on using hoses in our gardens only last week.
Our garden has seriously not needed watering for at least two months.
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This is the AU mid term forecast
Mixed rainfall odds for mid-winter to early spring
The national outlook for mid-winter to early spring (July to September) indicates that:
a drier than normal season is favoured for the southwest, southeast and eastern parts of the country.
a wetter than normal season is favoured over northern Queensland.
This
outlook is a result of warmer than normal waters in the eastern Indian
Ocean with some influence from neutral conditions in the central Pacific
Ocean.
The chances of receiving above median rainfall during the
July to September period are between 30 and 40% over southwest WA,
southeastern parts of SA, the eastern half of the NSW-Queensland border,
western Victoria and the northeastern half of Tasmania (see map). Such
odds mean that for every ten years with similar ocean patterns to those
currently observed, about six to seven July to September periods would
be expected to be drier than average over this area, while about three
to four years would be wetter.
All key indicators remain at
neutral (i.e., not El Ni?o nor La Ni?a) levels. Climate models surveyed
by the Bureau of Meteorology show that the tropical Pacific Ocean is
likely to warm further over the coming months. These models indicate an
increased risk of conditions approaching, or possibly exceeding, El Ni?o
thresholds during 2012. Climatologists will continue to monitor
conditions and outlooks closely for any further developments over the
coming months, with information on the likelihood of El Ni?o available
fortnightly at the ENSO Wrap-Up.http://www.bom.gov.au/climate/enso/
(http://www.bom.gov.au/climate/enso/)
All in all, quite boring. ;)
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szukacz - hope you are OK!
Tornados in Poland:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-18846641
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-18851510
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That goes for me too szukacz. Frightening weather.
Good morning Randi, good morning OW.
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Thank you very much.
Everything is OK.
Unfortunately, not all: (
We're not quite ready for something like that.
We
can only dream about what systems are, for example in the U.S. (Doppler
radars, warning centers, tornadoes and strong winds). Last year it
appeared the tornado, but everyone said it was just such weather
anomalies.
I slowly anomaly, it gets's rules.
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Thanks for posting szukacz. We are glad to hear you are OK.
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Yes, I can only imagine how frightening that must be, even if you are okay yourself.
I'm with Caro on this: good to know you are ok, and all the best for you and your loved ones.
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Glad to hear you are all OK szukacz...hope your weather calms down! :)
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Szukacz: Glad to hear you are safe. It's a frightening planet we live on sometimes.
The draught continues over here. The extremes seem to be more extreme!!
Hope all are well everywhere!
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How people can continue to deny there have been fairly rapid (in
geological/meteorological terms) is beyond me - I know massive volcano
eruptions can cause rapid changes, but the stuff we have seen in the
last few years is not attributable to that, is it? I have found
that Occam's Razor is usually the correct way to look at things.
I'm glad you are ok -
Well,
we are heading this week to the Tetons and Yellowstone - we leave
Thursday and will be back July 31st - I'm taking my laptop so I won't
have to go thru total withdrawal ;D
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Enjoy the trip, Kathy. And do more vacation than OW. ;D
Be safe, at least the mountains shouldn't get the 100-plus they're predicting for the rest of us this week.
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We had a Southern Right Whale AND calf in Sydney Harbour today. :)
Was not there to see it, had to watch the news. :(
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Down to 3 incomplete ships. Methinks that a mutiny might be in
the offing. BRING US SHIPS ... ANY SHIPS, AS LONG AS THEY HAVE
LOGS !
:'(
I just found this on Huffington Post:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/07/16/us-drought-2012-widest-since-1956_n_1676936.html
(http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/07/16/us-drought-2012-widest-since-1956_n_1676936.html)
You guys are really having fun at the moment, aren't you?
???
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That's it, we *have* to find a way to transfer some of our rain! Yesterday I was ankle-deep in water in some places...
With so little logs left we have plenty of spare time anyway :D
Now
we have a lot of people who know things about meteorology, now we just
need a couple of engineers and at least one evil genius...
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On the Beeb website some meteorologists claim that the jet stream
might be changing its course in the next few days. They reckon that the
weather for the Olympics might not be too bad but it could still be wet
in the North West of Scotland. Since the meteorologists are based in
London then their idea of the North West of Scotland can be a bit fluid
so I could still be cold and wet.
Still today is dry but cool which is an improvement.
Hold
on folks over the pond rain will probably appear and, if this year's
British weather is any kind of example, in very large quantity.
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They've already changed Chicago's forecast - this round of 97F to
100F heat dropped from 4 days to just today, with storms tonight.
I'm hoping you're right about the rain, although even the weatherman is
noticing that calling 88F (31C) "cool" is somehow off.
I'm starting to really really want rain.
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...alright, I am officially not complaining about the summer
anymore. As much as I hate rain every single day, heat like that would
be the end of me. Really.
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Totally agree with you on that one Karijn 8)
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On
the Beeb website some meteorologists claim that the jet stream might be
changing its course in the next few days. They reckon that the weather
for the Olympics might not be too bad but it could still be wet in the
North West of Scotland.
Remind me again what events are taking place in the North of Scotland??
Oh yes, I forget, Haggis tossing. ;D ;D
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Further to the whale story.
It appears the calf was actually born in Sydney Harbour. :)
Add another to the ozi statistics.
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On
the Beeb website some meteorologists claim that the jet stream might be
changing its course in the next few days. They reckon that the weather
for the Olympics might not be too bad but it could still be wet in the
North West of Scotland.
Remind me again what events are taking place in the North of Scotland??
Oh yes, I forget, Haggis tossing. ;D ;D
You need to check wiki on the comparative aerodynamics of wet or dry haggises (but don't look too hard ;)) ;) ;D
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Good morning OW. No sign of summer here yet! :D
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Morning OW and Caro - still grey and dreary here as well, supposedly
summer will arrive on Saturday when the jet stream moves further north.
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Apparently the North West of Scotland has a rain shortage which I
assure you does not extend to the Central Belt. We are supposed to be
getting some dry days Thur, Fri and Sat but Sunday is back to rain; so
much for the moving jet stream. No up north they don't toss
anything so lightweight as haggis - full size tree trunks only - they
have real men up there. Haggis, neeps and a wee dram to wash it down,
with real porridge for breakfast breeds them tough.
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;D
I did once toss a half size tree at Brigadoon (NSW Australia) and got a 1 o'clock, I was happy.
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;D ;D ;D
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Just woke up because of thunderstorms; so much for the drought. And a
ban on campfires and burning barrels was just called yesterday...
Not that I'm complaining. We really needed the water. ;D
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My neighborhood has been blessed with several of the scattered
storms the last few days - one happening right now, and some of them
quite noisy. But none of them gifted us with more than .25 inches
of rain. Nice for the gardens, and temporarily cooling but not
really drought-breaking. Both of us need a very wet front coming
through, or a big storm that will take more than a day to pass through,
neither of which is anywhere in sight. :(
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Your suffering is not in vain, Janet. A poll taken in July shows
that 70% of Americans now believe in climate change, up from 66% in
March and 52% in 2010 when there were record snowfalls. Unfortunately,
record high temperatures and drought is what it takes to convince
people. Now all we need is for the government to do something about it.
We don't expect any action from our Canadian government, which only
pretends to take climate change seriously while sabotaging international
cooperation efforts. But if the US moves, Canada will be forced to
follow.
We are getting similar weather in Canada, although not
quite as hot as yours. We haven't had any appreciable rain here for
several weeks. Lawns are catching fire in Ottawa. It will be necessary
for the province of Alberta to continue suffering for a while yet, I am
afraid. Oil Sands revenue is blinding them to what is happening in the
physical world.
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Just
woke up because of thunderstorms; so much for the drought. And a ban on
campfires and burning barrels was just called yesterday...
Not that I'm complaining. We really needed the water. ;D
A
ban on water back at Easter is what broke our winter drought. They've
just lifted most bans - and so the sun is coming out this weekend in
England (not the whole UK though). Hope the rain in N America
continues to build.
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07:00, -2c this morning in Bowral, Australia
Heater went on.
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According to this
http://www.myweather2.com/City-Town/Australia/New-South-Wales/Bowral/climate-profile.aspx?month=7,
-2 is not unusual for Bowral in the winter ;D
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Hi gastcra, where u is?
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Just across the river from Ottawa, Stewart, in la belle province de
Qu?bec (where -2 C is considered balmy in winter, for now at
least).
Craig
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Hi Craig
I am only 100km south of Sydney.
They are skiing further south.
I
was in -25C last Feb (minus or plus? wind chill of -8) up in the
Arctic, so -2c (-5c earlier in the morning) is barmy here although the
wife doesn't agree she is still in bed. ;D
Stuart.
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Good afternoon (morning/evening/night, depending on your
whereabouts) OWers. 14 C at the moment, windless, cloudless ...
generally a perfect winter's day here. Time to go for the daily
walk!
;D
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Good morning from the gloomy southern UK.
The sun will be making an appearance any day now. :)
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We saw the sun for at least an hour yesterday!
At the moment it
is dry but cloudy and the weather forecasters are talking about summer
coming to England later in the week. But, I volunteer at the RNIB and
one of the chaps in the cafe was saying that his grandmother of 90 who
lives in one of the NW Isles off the Scottish mainland (I'm not sure
which) has had the best summer she can remember! I have to try to
be glad that someone is enjoying their weather.
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While Chicago had a real rain, dropping 1 to 2 inches, night before
last for the first time in a month followed by AVERAGE high temps
yesterday - 84F. I'm hoping the combination will repeat, but I'm
not holding my breath.
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I hope it does work out for you Janet!
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We have an even prettier day today, below average for a
change! High 70s near the lake by me, low 80s inland. But no
more rain, not even appropriate clouds. It's still and nice 2 day
break.
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Well, I've now discovered one island off Scotland with a good
summer, although the farmers are suffering while the tourist trade
booms.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-18923847
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Addiction??!!! OH MY!!!!!!!!! :o
I've gone to sea on M-23!
I took the plunge and shipped out as an editor and was assigned for M-23 in Russia in 1919.
Talk about addicting .. and I thought TRANSCRIBING was addicting! ::)
I'm gonna be a bit busy!!! But this is FUN!! Save me a Phase 3 ship, please!! ;)
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I know the feeling, this is awesome :)
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Good morning OW, good morning editors. :D
Delighted to announce that the sun is shining. No rain forecast. None.
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Morning Caro. A whole 24 hours with no rain and actual sunshine in NW England :o
It's not very good for the progress of the editing though!
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Hi Janet. Have laptop, will travel ... to the garden. ;D
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I have tried that (it must have been that nice week in May) but I
couldn't see the sceen in the sun. That's my excuse and I'm sticking to
it!
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We haven't had any appreciable amount of rain in the last month in
southern Ontario and Quebec and there is nothing in sight except the odd
thunder storm. I am having trouble keeping the skunks and/or groundhogs
away from my vegetable garden. They have taken a liking for my bean
plants, chewing off all the leaves - I haven't been able to get any
green beans this summer. I saw some teeth marks in a green tomato
yesterday and they have been grazing on my nasturtiums. I can see I'm
going to have fight them for the ripe tomatoes soon. I saw signs that
they had been trying out my potato plants so I sprinkled the leaves with
Tobasco sauce. All that did was wilt the leaves >:(. I am
thinking of getting one of those motion detector devices that activates a
hose to spray them or perhaps record some anti-skunk rap music to play
back to them during the night. Lyrics contributions or other suggestions
welcome. ;D
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That puts my problems keeping slugs and snails off my veg plants in
perspective! I've managed to keep most of my bean plants but due to the
cool temperatures and lack of sun they have only just started flowering.
But they did get all my recent lettuce seedlings even though they were
in a pot. Hopefully, now its stopped raining in the UK (for now
anyway!), the rain will be heading your way.
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Sorry Jil, it has stopped raining in England and maybe Wales but I
asure you it has not stoppd raining in Scotland. We did have a few dry
days with occasional bursts of sun but the rain is back. It is raining
as I write, I am back in my winter dressing gown although the central
heating isn't on and I am yearning for sunlight, my whole body is
craving it (I do have mild SAD).
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Good morning all.
Not a cloud in the sky down here.
The snails and slugs have disappeared from our garden. A toad has moved in. :)
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Morning OW and Caro - cloudless in London as well, my new olive tree should like this weather!
Will walk up to Canary Wharf later to see the various yachts parked there (olympic games visitors).
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Naughty Geoff. All your good work with Royal Navy ships hould
have ingrained in you that 'yachts' and 'parked' should be mutually
exclusive words in the same sentence! I hope that your gardening
terminolgy is more correcter.
Good evening all. We are
having one of our stretches of perfect winter weather at the moment -
-2ish to about 14C every day, almost no cloud or wind and a blue, sunny
sky. It's a crime to spend time indoors at the moment.
Cheers,
Steeleye
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Sorry
Jil, it has stopped raining in England and maybe Wales but I asure you
it has not stoppd raining in Scotland. We did have a few dry days with
occasional bursts of sun but the rain is back. It is raining as I write,
I am back in my winter dressing gown although the central heating isn't
on and I am yearning for sunlight, my whole body is craving it (I do
have mild SAD).
Sorry
about that, I got over excited by the lack of dampness! It doesn't look
like it's going to stay that way for much longer in Northern England.
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Naughty
Geoff. All your good work with Royal Navy ships hould have
ingrained in you that 'yachts' and 'parked' should be mutually exclusive
words in the same sentence! I hope that your gardening terminolgy
is more correcter.
I thought you nailed yachts to the quay. ;D
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or, you can buy a yatch latch :D
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Or, with the current state of the English summer, leave the tonneau
off and wait for it to fill with water and berth/moor by vertical
parking.
S
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Here are two of the ships 'moored' at Canary Wharf:
(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7112/7629119518_bf07fce4e8_z.jpg)
Seanna (with a missing letter)
(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7267/7629133560_0730f6fd99_z.jpg)
Stad Amsterdam
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Thanks for posting the picture of the Stad Amsterdam Geoff, she is beautiful.
In
reply I post a picture of a lovely if smaller Norwegian Barque that I
spotted in Scalloway, Shetland a couple of weeks ago. She is called the
Loyal, of Bergen. http://www.loyal.no/12.html
Enjoy.
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Also berthed in London in a sort of dry dock, photo taken at the end
of May. Has any ship been built with lines as elegant as the
Cutty Sark?
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Morning OW and Caro - cloudless in London as well, my new olive tree should like this weather!
Will walk up to Canary Wharf later to see the various yachts parked there (olympic games visitors).
Geoff:
Don't change!! The 'Yachties' PARK! they usually have professional crew
and know NOTHING except where the 'wet bar' is and how to request
another 'drinkie poo!' ;D
The TRUE naval ships MOOR and/or ANCHOR!! ;)
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(http://img407.imageshack.us/img407/6607/img0650gj.jpg)
These two were at Charlestown in Cornwall a couple of weeks ago.
http://www.cornwalls.co.uk/Charlestown-village.htm
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Hey, that looks like impressionistic art! Love it!
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(http://img407.imageshack.us/img407/6607/img0650gj.jpg)
These two were at Charlestown in Cornwall a couple of weeks ago.
http://www.cornwalls.co.uk/Charlestown-village.htm
I was there last year, and the Kaskelot was there then, but I dont recognise the other one. A great place, enjoy it.
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I think the 'other one' is the Phoenix, Keith.
It is a beautiful place indeed. :)
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Due to illness in the family we will not be visiting the UK.
I have a Rail tour ticket for sale. GBP50. Inc tour of Carlisle.
Crewe to Carlisle return.
See web site for details.
http://www.compasstoursbyrail.co.uk/index.php?page=shop.product_details&flypage=flypage_compass.tpl&product_id=48&category_id=4&option=com_virtuemart&Itemid=63
(http://www.compasstoursbyrail.co.uk/index.php?page=shop.product_details&flypage=flypage_compass.tpl&product_id=48&category_id=4&option=com_virtuemart&Itemid=63)
If interested please contact me by PM
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Sorry to hear that.
Take care of yourself.
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Take care of yourself and yours. I'm sorry to hear of this.
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I hope that everything will go well for yourself and yours.
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Thanks all.
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Stuart: We'll keep you and your family in our thoughts and prayers!
Please let us know if we can do anything else! :)
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Actually you can help me.
Can you tell me what the Id and the 2 in this locations means.
Cape Decision, Kain Id. East-2.
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I would say it's Kain Island and the bearing is East 2 degrees, but I may be wrong on the latter.
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The scribe usually uses Island when it is an Island, but he may be lazy sometimes.
Wasn't sure if the 2 was degrees or miles.
Thanks.
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The scribe usually uses Island when it is an Island, but he may be lazy sometimes.
Wasn't sure if the 2 was degrees or miles.
Thanks.
I'd go with miles ;D
The Id is most likely island (unless he knew Freud) ;D
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To the Captain of the USCGC Bear.
We have on of your stragglers, seaman A. Holm on our ship (Manning)
Please come and collect him.
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/USS%20Manning/Manning_1916a/B1462_0143.jpg
(http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/USS%20Manning/Manning_1916a/B1462_0143.jpg)
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I didn't see what you were referring to, Stuart ??? But I
did notice that there were only 6 weather reports. Is this only because
they are in the Puget Sound Naval Yard or did you tell the log keeper
to relax a bit? ;D
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Sorry, page before.
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/USS%20Manning/Manning_1916a/B1462_0142.jpg
(http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/USS%20Manning/Manning_1916a/B1462_0142.jpg)
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Manning seems to go to the 6/day when in port but 24 at sea.
What a shame we are sailing on Bear 32 years before this taxi ride, so we can't find out why he was straggling? :)
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32 years before he would have been swaddling ;D
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:P
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Manning seems to go to the 6/day when in port but 24 at sea.
What a shame we are sailing on Bear 32 years before this taxi ride, so we can't find out why he was straggling? :)
I did not pick the manning for the number of entries, i have trouble reading real writing, well the flowery stuff anyway.
I am happy just to plod on and get the data in, save some more typed ones for me when Manning finishes.
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We have made No1 on Google.
I forgot what the weather code Z was for and looked it up. (Haze)
No1 on the list was our forum replys.
Yaaay
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The log editors often find that the only Google reference to a place
name, for instance, is in the log we are editing at the time. ;D
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The
log editors often find that the only Google reference to a place name,
for instance, is in the log we are editing at the time. ;D
I hate it when that happens ... :(
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I may be the world's slowest twit...
What areas do we need maps
of now? I work in part of the Geog School, the MSc Director goes to
Alaska often, the Head of the Library visits often (every Friday during
term) surely I can find some map goodies for our arctic tern, I
mean 'turn' ;D ?
Doh!
Or has someone already tracked good maps down?
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So far I've seen: Alaska, Siberia, and Greenland
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The high arctic, as normally accessed by US Coast Guard ships.
Which would be Greenland, Alaska and Siberia, and associated islands
and Canadian coasts in passing.
I don't believe they went north
of Europe at all. That might be done by US Navy ships, but it
isn't close of any part of the American coast. Ditto any part of
Asia south of Siberia.
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Morning Steeleye.
Bit nippy down your way this morning.
Lit the fire today and it's only -2c here.
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How do you get a Ground Swell at sea?
(Well technically at anchor of an island.)
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a few too many rums? ;D
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How do you get a Ground Swell at sea?
(Well technically at anchor of an island.)
From the Free Dictionary:
ground-swell (groundswl)
n.
1. A sudden gathering of force, as of public opinion: a groundswell of antiwar sentiment.
2. A broad deep undulation of the ocean, often caused by a distant storm or an earthquake.
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Does anyone know the name of the tall ship appearing in pictures of the Thames (during the Olympics)?
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According to the telegraph, there's whole fleet of them - 15 or so.
With a bunch of superyachts and the carrier HMS Ocean added. The
sites don't have popups I can use here, but there are lots of videos of
them to google.
Telegraph:
The
tall ships will provide public cruises and corporate hospitality as
they sail between Royal Arsenal Pier in Woolwich and Tower Bridge
throughout the London 2012 Olympics.
Totalling 15, the ships include
schooners, brigs and loggers, each of which sail through the Thames
Barrier and past four Olympic venues on their daily travels.
(http://lcesolutions.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/19augustus_AJB_1513.jpg)
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Good morning OW.
The tall ship could be:
Iris, Gallant,
Loth Lorien, Jantje, Joanna Saturna, Morgenster, Oosterschelde, Lady of
Avenel, Tecla, Thalassa, J.R. Tolkien, Twister, Wylde Swan or
Zephyr. :)
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Morning OW.
I've been held up quite often over the last few
weeks when leaving or coming back to the Isle of Dogs as the road bridge
has been up to let ships into or out of the docks at Canary Wharf.
Will check if any tall ships are docked there later today when I walk to the pub.
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I hope you are taking your camera, Geoff. :)
Enjoy.
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Back from my pub lunch which ran longer than I thought. Canary Wharf
is packed to the gunnels with boats and ships of all different sizes
and types.
Will post some pictures once I loaded them to Flickr.
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The Deutschland - huge!
(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8292/7699537536_43ca62f4de_z.jpg)
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The Eendracht:
(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7261/7699523060_27f380727d_z.jpg)
Very difficult taking pictures as I can't get far enough away to get the whole ship in!
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Forgot to get the name of this one - will walk to Canary Wharf tomorrow with my good camera and get some better pictures:
(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7139/7699601644_a080b2e079_z.jpg)
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Superb! Thanks Geoff.
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They are all quite beautiful, Geoff. Thanks. :)
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wow!
http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/technology-blog/oklahoma-hot-street-lamps-melting-203656312.html
(http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/technology-blog/oklahoma-hot-street-lamps-melting-203656312.html)
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:o
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oh my giddy aunt - that's amazing! Transcribe faster everybody! :-\
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It IS a problem, but here I suspect that the dumpster fire was the
direct cause - especially since only 2 of the 4 were melted and only on 1
side.
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Superb! Thanks Geoff.
Yes, so marvelous! Thanks, Geoff, Janet, Caro, all!
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I KNOW I recently saw a great 'poster'- I think from Janet - about the cloud types. I can't find it!
If
you are interested in more and about the water cycle, This was just
posted by CoCoRaHS.org - the Univ. of Colorado Weather study that I
take part in with the National Weather Service. Very informative -
and cute!
http://www.youtube.com/watch_pop_up?v=ZzY5-NZSzVw&feature=youtu.be
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Janet's Cloud Type Poster: http://forum.oldweather.org/index.php?topic=2977.msg47819#msg47819
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I just moved it to its own stickied FAQ topic:
http://forum.oldweather.org/index.php?topic=3003.0
;D
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Randi: Thanks for finding it!
Janet: I'll redo my post under yours!
BTW _ Looks like some severe weather headed your way (Sat 7:15pm EDT) Stay Safe!!!
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;D
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I thought ya'll might be interested in this -
http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/climate-change-is-here--and-worse-than-we-thought/2012/08/03/6ae604c2-dd90-11e1-8e43-4a3c4375504a_story.html
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I guess I side with the Post's reply when it comes to single-year
events. The heat records Chicagoland broke this year by only 1oF happened in 1911, and our drought is the worst one since the
1930's dust bowl. Occasional hot summers and droughts like this
have been happening in the center of the continent since forever.
I
side with the article on the cause of how many hot events we have in a
decade. And think anyone who judges only individual events and not
trends-by-the-decade is burying their head in the sand.
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Scary! :o
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Good Luck to Curiosity for this afternoons landing (15:31 AEST)
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Curiosity lands safely on Mars (http://www.sciencenews.org/view/generic/id/342832/title/Curiosity_lands_safely_on_Mars)
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Morning OW, been watching the NASA feed for the Mars landing - successful :)
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(http://www.smileyvault.com/albums/userpics/10902/congrats.gif)
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Wonderful news!
Curiosity tweets: https://twitter.com/MarsCuriosity/status/232352290919567361/photo/1
You may need a twitter account to see that so here's a snip.
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I couldn't bear to watch!
Even the simulation gave me a stomach ache ::)
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I wonder when the weather logs will be available?
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Phase 6.
They will post the data and we will write it out in our worst handwriting with watered down ink ;D
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;D ;D ;D
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Nice one randi_2
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Extreme hot spells rising (http://www.sciencenews.org/view/generic/id/342823/title/Extreme_hot_spells_rising)
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Phase 6.
They will post the data and we will write it out in our worst handwriting with watered down ink ;D
On damp paper with a dull pencil!! ;D
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1st photo from Mars:
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=504332439596214&set=a.223098324386295.105971.205344452828349&type=1&ref=nf
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;D
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Phase 6.
They will post the data and we will write it out in our worst handwriting with watered down ink ;D
On damp paper with a dull pencil!! ;D
With a disappearing-ink pen (on bleached cotton) used by dressmakers ;)
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And don't forget to do the scans with as little contrast as possible ! ;D
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and really crooked.
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;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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and really crooked.
;D
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Good morning OW.
Just played today's Google animation and managed to leave one hurdle standing. ::)
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47 seconds and NO hurdles standing.
Loose that. ;D
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Four hurdles standing!
I'm exhausted.
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I cannot get the guy to jump to a height to clear, any tips?
Just
worked it out, for some reason you have to hit left and right arrows
alternately to go quicker (then he jumps higher) I was just hitting only
the right.
Buy the way, anybody heard from Bunts lately? I miss his razor sharp whit.
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Bunts may be back in a few weeks. I hope so.
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Bunts may be back in a few weeks. I hope so.
I hope so too!
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Three ;D
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make that four ;D :-*
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We forgot to mark the 222 birthday of the US Coast Guard - August 4th, 1790. :o
I miss Bunts too :'(
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To make everybody's day, you have only to beat a score of 10 in the basket ball. (Google)
That should be easy and you should fell happy.
;D ;D ;D
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We have a while to wait on this side of the globe, Stuart.
We're still hurdling. :D
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Well I guess you will get over it. :D
I'm off to fix steam trains today.
Bye.
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what on earth are you lot up to??? basket ball, hurdling? ;) ;)
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We forgot to mark the 222 birthday of the US Coast Guard - August 4th, 1790. :o
I miss Bunts too :'(
Hurrah for the US Coast Guard,
Just 222 today,
Still saving lives on the perilous seas,
in a very heroic way.
Three cheers! Hiphip Hurrah! Hiphip Hurrah! Hiphip Hurrah!
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what on earth are you lot up to??? basket ball, hurdling? ;) ;)
Check out the home page of 'That Famous Search Engine' (we cannot advertise Google)
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18. ;D
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Good evening/night/morning/afternoon OWers. Wherever you are, I
hope the weather is as beautiful as it has been here in the last week -
0 to 14C, cloudless, even though the wind has a bit of a bite to
it. Cool days probably seem a distant memory Janet - I see that
you are still basking in the 30s. One of our state-owned TV
channels (the multicultural one) does a round-up of the world weather
every night, which I always find interesting. About a week ago in
Baghdad the temp went from a minimum of 39 to a top of 50. Remind
me never to complain about piddlingly cool mid-30s ever again!
So
what is the steam engine that you're playing with Stuart? Is it
http://www.heritageexpress.com.au/pages/categories/excitement-of-steam.htm
(http://www.heritageexpress.com.au/pages/categories/excitement-of-steam.htm)
? Or is it the Hornby set in your garage?
Cheers
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Hi Howard and others.
Thats the link, and this is another one. http://www.nswrtm.org/ (http://www.nswrtm.org/).
I do everything from cleaning, painting through to the fitting and machining.
Not allowed to drive them or go as crew on the trips. :(
(34.3 seconds for the Slalom-canoe)
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As the old, old saying goes Stuart: 'The only difference between men
and boys is the size of their toys'. That looks like serious fun.
If the week was eight days instead of seven, I would like to get
involved in restoration work at the Canberra Railway Museum.
However, with the training that I have, they would probably limit me to
stripping paint!
On our trip to the UK in May/June, we visited the National Railway Museum in York - now that contained some serious
toys. I think that there must be a steam engine gene in the human
genome that is coded 'on' when an ancestor worked on the railways.
My father did an apprenticeship with GWR in Swindon in the '40s and I
still feel a visceral stirring at the sight/sound/smell of a steam
engine. It's a lovely thing, nostalgia.
Cheers
:-[
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I think love of the railway lives even in descendants with no
mechanical skills at all - I really like all kinds of trains, and my
grandfather worked 50 years for the Pensylvania Railroad, starting as a
plumber and ending supervising the maintenance crews for the southern
half of Cook County. Everyone in my family kind of lights up at a
chance to ride the trains. :)
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It's a lovely thing, nostalgia.
But it is very dirty. ;)
I was to ride the Settle-Carlisle run last week, (actually Crewe-Carlisle) but my holiday got cancelled.
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We did manage a run on the Lakeside & Haverthwaite railway when in the UK (photo below). I can still smell it!
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My husband is a rail
nutcase fan, and when we were in
England, we took a Cathedral Steam trip from London to Salisbury and
back. There seems to be a difference between US rail fans and UK
rail fans - in the US, excursion trips are all about the scenery and in
the UK, it seems to be about the speed of the engine pulling the train.
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My husband is a rail nutcase
fan, and when we were in England, we took a Cathedral Steam trip from
London to Salisbury and back. There seems to be a difference
between US rail fans and UK rail fans - in the US, excursion trips are
all about the scenery and in the UK, it seems to be about the speed of
the engine pulling the train.
That
probably depends a bit on the line and the people Kathy. I recently
went on the Inverness to Perth line over the Cairngorms, just on a
routine service and that was fascinating without being pulled by
anything interesting. We have an enthusiasts steam line near us
http://www.eastsomersetrailway.com. It only goes a few miles and much is
in a cutting, but it is a great day out mainly because of the engines.
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I once sat on a train near some 'track' enthusiasts. They were
thrilled because we got diverted off the main line and they travelled a
'new' bit of line. They spent ages comparing bits of line that
they had travelled. One of them definitely trumped the other by getting
on to a 'goods only' bit of line which included a TURNTABLE. Well,
it takes all sorts and at least it's harmless.
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;D
My husband has traveled to New York to ride track on
closed subway lines; Chicago, Philadelphia, etc. to ride on rare track -
our honeymoon and other trips to Europe were planned mainly around the
trains we would ride. Our vacations include at least 1 excursion
rail trip - ;D
I want him to make a list of all the rail trips - some of them don't run anymore.
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Saved 6 ;D
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We did manage a run on the Lakeside & Haverthwaite railway when in the UK (photo below). I can still smell it!
The
lakeside railway was 'just up the road' from my Mums house in
Allithwaite (which is up for sale [little plug]) and I visited it often.
Ravenglass railway is quite a pretty one, also in the lake district.
Good to hear there are other people out there who appreciate good (abate dirty) machinery. :)
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Small world, Stuart. From Grange-over-Sands, not far from your
Mum's place, you can see where we used to sail at Arnside in the early
60s. We also wanted to go to the Ravenglass railway last trip, but
ran out of time.
:'(
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Since we are now in Arctic waters...
Swim that broke Cold War ice curtain (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-19149829)
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You had me worried there for a minute, randi. I thought that
your sentence was going to continue: 'Since we are now in Arctic
waters... would you lot stop prattling on about steam engines!' To
which the rejoinder was going to be: 'But steam engines are also addictive!'
;D
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Well Stuart, I saved nine, then let in three consecutive goals. ::)
Good morning OW.
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Since we are now in Arctic waters...
Swim that broke Cold War ice curtain (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-19149829)
What
a fantastic story! it may have been cold for Lynne Cox, but it's
heart-warming for the rest of us.....just goes to show that you don't
have to be high and mighty to achieve great things. ;D ;D
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You
had me worried there for a minute, randi. I thought that your
sentence was going to continue: 'Since we are now in Arctic waters...
would you lot stop prattling on about steam engines!' To which the
rejoinder was going to be: 'But steam engines are also addictive!'
;D
USS Rodgers is under sail AND steam ;D
btw More than once they have said something like "stopped engine to key up" - does anyone know what that means?
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Very clevr, randi!
On your question about "stopped engine to
key up", putting the phrase into Google gave a hit at
http://www23.us.archive.org/stream/LogBookOfTheUssEssexOctober31876-March3118771Transcription/USSEssexLogBook1Transcription_djvu.txt
(http://www23.us.archive.org/stream/LogBookOfTheUssEssexOctober31876-March3118771Transcription/USSEssexLogBook1Transcription_djvu.txt)
... in which the log states:
'From 8 to Merid. Cloudy. Cool. Pleasant. Fresh W. by N. wind, and cum clouds. At 9 exchanged colors
with pilot boat no. 11. At 9.30 mustered and inspected at quarters. Division exercise as follows, 1 st Div.
Cast loose, 2 nd Div. Cast loose. Powder Div Stationed. Marine small arms. At 10.55 stopped engine to
key up brasses of after crank. At 11.10 started ahead. Average steam pressure 75 lbs. Revolutions 45
1/2. Temp coal bunkers 78?. '
For anything beyond that you need the services of a real engineer, rather than the offspring of one!
;D
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Once we get enough logs to occupy a crowd, and a more polished
interface - it is coming!! - we are going to have to remember to send an
invite to
Ann Merriman, Christopher Olson, Maritime Heritage Minnesota
:)
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I think you will find that
At 10.55 stopped engine to key up brasses of after crank.
Refers to the engineers tightening or re fitting a retainer on the bearing brasses around one of the engines crank.
For
the benefit of the none mechanical, the Crank is usually one of the
bent bits of the engine to which the one of the up and down bit attaches
and makes the roundy thing go round. ;D The After crank
being behind the Fore crank ;)
(Or it could just be time to wind up the engines big driving spring.) ;D ;D
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Looks like it is a rest day today for us part time athletes.
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I took my lakeside walk in the evening today. The lake had
near gale force winds at its center earlier, and is definitely a
dangerous, angry body of water even after they've calmed down tonight.
(https://www.t-mobilepictures.com/myalbum/thumbnail/photo48/30/b5/a4eab17756f6__1344643677000.jpeg?tw=0&th=720&s=true&rs=false)
On the beaches right now, waves were about 5 feet - they said
in marine warnings earlier that they got up to 20 feet in places.
Not good for small one-person sail boats. The real danger is not
the waves, it's the unstable bottom. Lots of underwater sandbars
changing shape, producing rip currents. Still, there were a couple
of idiots out there trying to surf. I was using them as my
measuring stick for the wave height.
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Good day to you all.
Yes, no interactive Google Olympics today. Phew.
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All together now.
Good Morning Caro.
:D
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Good morning Caro!!! ;D
Sun's up in Blighty ;D ;D
Housework's calling... ;D
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Good morning Caro!!! ;D
Housework's calling... ;D
"We are sorry. The number you have reached is no longer in service." :P
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;D ;D ;D ;D
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Good morning Caro!!! ;D
Housework's calling... ;D
"We are sorry. The number you have reached is no longer in service." :P
(http://www.desismileys.com/smileys/desismileys_0095.gif) (http://www.desismileys.com/)
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A request for aid:
My kid sister has a party each summer with
a 'theme.' The theme this year is the 'British Invasion,' Everyone
coming has to bring a 'British themed' food.
Any suggestions that would 'knock their socks off' and be DOOABLE by this Colonist??!! ::)
Thanks, all
Blessings, Dean
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It has to be bangers and mash, with a garnish of tomato sauce ... and a plate of chips for dessert.
;)
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Saints preserve us, mushy peas :P
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Curry?
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For doabilty and portability, I would recommend a proper Cornish pasty.
www.bit.ly/R0rhkb
For an historic touch, put the savoury in one half and the sweet (jam for instance) in the other.
http://www.porthleven-online.com/gpage7.html
Food for miners. Proper job. ;)
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Following randi - I believe that chicken tikka masala is officially Britain's favourite food ...
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Well, if it is party food, cucumber sandwiches, white bread
(preferably as square shaped as possible), cut the crusts off and then
into triangles.
Complete with scones, clotted cream and strawberry jam.
If it is mainly adults you could do a sherry trifle or for any age a gooseberry fool.
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gooseberry fool....ohhhhhhhhhhhhh yyyyyyuuuuuuuuummmmmmmy!
English food hmmm...
Breakfast
has to be the full monty...eggs, bacon, bangers, beans, grilled tomato,
devilled mushroom, black pudding and fried bread. With a
good cup or two of Yorkshire tea.
Lunch (probably not on the same day
as that breakfast ( ;D)) I back Caro all the way - a proper
Cornish teddy-oggy hits the mark. With a fine pint of cool scrumpy.
Dinner
(so many delicious possibilites, and certainly not on the same day as
the breakfast or lunch). I'm voting for a good shepherd's pie with
runner beans, sliced carrots and savoy cabbadge with rich brown gravy,
and a fine apple charlotte (WITH cloves) for pudding with medium thick
custard. With a good winter warmer beer (as shandy if hot weather).
Supper: beef dripping on toast. With cocoa.
Before bedtime: any patent indigestion remedy. ;)
Shame I'm vegetarian.... ;D ;)
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So am I.
A good vegetable pasty is hard to beat too.
For our American readers: pasty is pronounced with a short a, as in cat. Not a as in paste.
You probably know why I'm telling you this. ;)
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"good winter warmer beer (as shandy if hot weather)"
Careful, you will give an ex brewer a heart attack. Winter warmer shandy!!
I too am a veggie, but really good fish and chips is hard to beat.
K
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On a darker topic, for those who have got involved with ships in the Gallipoli campaign
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-19207134
highlights
a Grandfather's diary. He was a writer for Commodore Backhouse and was
buried on the peninsula. There is also a reference to the radio
programme which will be available on-line.
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Yeah, right ::)
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Yeah, right ::)
Years
ago a friend and me used to go on the local bus company's 'Magical
Mystery Tours'. You didn't know where you were off to...but it was
usually a big house, or some private gardens, or an afternoon around the
villages with a fine tea shop stop... I just wonder if the
Rodgers is off on it's own magical mystery tour.... time will
tell. ;D ;D
I vaguely thought about transcribing their
direction of sail, knots and times.....then I had glass of cider - put
my feet up and watched the TV instead. Should the winners of the Olympic
games just get laurel wreaths I wondered? ::) 8)
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Yeah, right ::)
Should the winners of the Olympic games just get laurel wreaths I wondered? ::) 8)
Joan. (Ava)
We did not get any coverage down under of the 'Aunt Sally' who won?
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The Headington Quarry Morris Men Silver Jubilee B team of
course. After an appeal to the judges Australia came second -
there is no shame in silver. Bronze went to the 'First Welsh 5' from
Patagonia, leaving Sweden to explain why they used their batons to make a
small sauna hut by the swimming pool. ;D ;D ;D
I just watched the end show - exhausting!
Can't wait to see what the team kits will look like in Rio - how will they fit all the electric lights on?? ;D ;D ::) ::)
Joan
And anyone else who wishes to swap to 'Joan' is very welcome to!
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Quote.
I just watched the end show - exhausting!
Can't wait to see what the team kits will look like in Rio - how will they fit all the electric lights on??
I am sure some bright spark will work that out.
;D
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Quote.
I just watched the end show - exhausting!
Can't wait to see what the team kits will look like in Rio - how will they fit all the electric lights on??
I am sure some bright spark will work that out.
;D
Strike a light - I think you're right!
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Hello, shipmates.
I am pleased to announce that Randi has
joined the Moderator Team. She's been answering questions for
people here for ages, and as we needed a moderator for the European
"shift", we decided to make it official. Congrats to Randi (who
has no idea what she's in for, the poor dear). :)
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Congratulations Randi (I think).
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Yay! ;D
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Oh Randi, what have you let yourself in for?
Congrads
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Congratulations Randi (I think).
Oh Randi, what have you let yourself in for?
Congrads
Thank you!
Yes, I'm wondering about that myself ;D
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Hello, shipmates.
I
am pleased to announce that Randi has joined the Moderator Team.
She's been answering questions for people here for ages, and as we
needed a moderator for the European "shift", we decided to make it
official. Congrats to Randi (who has no idea what she's in for,
the poor dear). :)
Captain, oh my Captain! Now a moderator. I'll tip my cap a little further next time!
Well chosen, and well done,,,, ;D ;D
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Ava, you should know by now there are NO captains in P3 ;D
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Congratulations to Randi.
Buy a soft keyboard!
The key is not so much imprinted on the face. ;) ;D
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Hi STuart,
Well - it's like this...the caption says 'no captain', but the insignia show that this is not so. :-\ ;D
I
can tell you that the Rodgers (just think of the Jolly Rodger!!)
is a tough ship; crammed logs, stacks of technical detail, saill changes
every five minutes, and the boss just got a promo. ;D ;D ;D ;D
Joan (Ava)
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Ava, Have you hoisted the
Admiral's Moderator's flag? ;D
Randi, Good luck!
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As I don't wear a hat, Randi, I am unable to doff it to you in
congratulations. I'm afraid a tugging of my forelock will have to
suffice (and you will have to imagine the emoticon). I trust you won't
have to read too many warrants to all us recalcitrants!
Cheers
8)
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Thank you all!
The OW project and forum have helped me keep what sanity I have left, so I am happy if I can help a bit more ;D
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;D ;D ;D
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Congratulations, Randi!!! :)
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It is all of you that make it worth it :-*
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Thank you all!
The OW project and forum have helped me keep what sanity I have left, so I am happy if I can help a bit more ;D
The difference between sanity and insanity is 'in' the details!! ;)
Like Steeleye, I shall tug my forelock, and wish you all the best! We shall TRY to behave!! ;D
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Or, as someone else said, "I'm not suffering from insanity, I'm enjoying every minute of it."
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And like someone else said, Insanity doesn't run in my family. It positively gallops.
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Honesty may be the best policy, but insanity is the best defense ;D
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Congrats Randi! ;D ;D ;D
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Congratulations Randi!
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Congratulations on your 'promotion' Randi!
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Thank you all!
(Now that I have 'super powers' over the forum
posts, I live in fear of hitting the wrong button and deleting /
modifying / moving someone's post or thread by accident ;))
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Don't let that ocd get the better of you. %^)
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I was always wondering why you were only called a "Hero Member", Randi ;)
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Craig, add enough forum posts and you'll be made a Hero too. It takes 750 posts. ;D
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Erm- never had the guts to ask before - but what do the coloured
square little boxes under your name mean please? :-[ (last time I
asked a question like this I nearly ended up on a court martial.
:-\ )
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They are indicators of your status - Blue for moderators, red for
Arfon, & the other PTB, gold for the rest of us - The number
of squares indicate rank - newbie thru hero - which is based on the
number of forum posts you have made.
I have a question - what on earth was the cultural significance of the octopus in the closing ceremony last night?
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I have not one idea at all! I couldn't think of one. Then again with
all that stuff wrapped up in news papers all I could think of was fish
and chips (and I do agree with you, Keith if you are reading this, about
those!) ;D :-\ ;D
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Craig, add enough forum posts and you'll be made a Hero too. It takes 750 posts. ;D
Yes, but Randi's posts were truly heroic ;D
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Craig, add enough forum posts and you'll be made a Hero too. It takes 750 posts. ;D
Yes, but Randi's posts were truly heroic ;D
That is true - they got her promoted into Moderator. I hope she doesn't regret it. ;D
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Good morning Geoff, tastiger, everyone.
Damp here this morning. Business as usual after the warm sunshine. :)
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Morning OW and Caro, damp here as well but could do with a bit more rain for my plants in the garden.
Now that the Olympics are done I can go shopping in Stratford again!
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Morning everyone (well, when it will be morning for me, that is).
I'd say something interesting, but I don't really have anything. My
sister just watched the entire 2nd and 5th season of Doctor Who, and is
now upset because we are out of episodes. It will be really interesting
how she will act today.
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Craig, add enough forum posts and you'll be made a Hero too. It takes 750 500 (Stuart has 534 and is a Hero) posts. ;D
Yes, but Randi's posts were truly heroic ;D
That is true - they got her promoted into Moderator. I hope she doesn't regret it. ;D
I hope YOU don't regret it!
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Morning
everyone (well, when it will be morning for me, that is). I'd say
something interesting, but I don't really have anything. My sister just
watched the entire 2nd and 5th season of Doctor Who, and is now upset
because we are out of episodes. It will be really interesting how she
will act today.
I
think I know which ones they are....in which case probably in need of
tissues (is the 2nd where Rose a the Dr end up at Bad Woolf Bay?
:'(), then a calmative (the fifth has the stone Angels in it? :P)?
And exhausted...I always feel like that after a Dr series. ::) ;D
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Morning
everyone (well, when it will be morning for me, that is). I'd say
something interesting, but I don't really have anything. My sister just
watched the entire 2nd and 5th season of Doctor Who, and is now upset
because we are out of episodes. It will be really interesting how she
will act today.
I
think I know which ones they are....in which case probably in need of
tissues (is the 2nd where Rose a the Dr end up at Bad Woolf Bay?
:'(), then a calmative (the fifth has the stone Angels in it? :P)?
And exhausted...I always feel like that after a Dr series. ::) ;D
Yep,
that's the one (Bad Wolf Bay). She mentioned that this was the first
love scene where she almost cried. Me, I just sit by and question
everything in the series (like why can't he just go to another
dimension, then to the one Rose is in if the connection between the
Rose's dimension and the Doctor's dimension is severed? He did say there
was more than 2 worlds or something like that...) so I can't really get
as into the series as she is.
By the way, my sister is obsessed
with EVERYTHING British. Right now, she's even planning to move to the
UK. And we don't get BBC (the American version), so she gets the Doctor
Who episodes when she can.
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Good morning all (it will actually be morning in 3 hours time, but near enough etc).
Not
too damp down here in the planet's nether regions. If fact it's
been a while since we had some of the wet stuff. Possible that
we're sliding back into an El Nino, in which case it could be a looong
hot summer.
::)
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By
the way, my sister is obsessed with EVERYTHING British. Right now,
she's even planning to move to the UK. And we don't get BBC (the
American version), so she gets the Doctor Who episodes when she can.
According
to a young Aussy friend who stayed here for a few months the TV is good
here in the UK...it probably is. My god daughter (about 16) is obsessed
with the Dr Who thing (and NO amount of trying to tell her that the
Tardis has done things before that she apparently can't do now will be
heard ::) 8) ). Already a 'Potter-head' she then discovered
Merlin (also on the Beeb)...now her TV/Magical book time is strictly
limited! Myself I prefer some of the naturalist progs
(Spring Watch, Autumn Watch, Lambing Live, anything from the Bristol
Wild Life Unit) and the history stuff, though some of this is less
illuminating - you have to pick the academic. And some of the
drama is very good too. It's just very expensive living here!! :-\
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On holiday in the UK in June, we made a point of trying to catch
'Spring Watch' - fascinating and a great concept for a regular TV
program. As for the rest of the TV offerings? Pretty much on a par
with what we get down here :'(, except that there was a lot more
channels to choose from. Methinks it is unlikely that the TV offerings
stand much chance of diverting me from OW, the books and the ship
building any time soon.
;)
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I am usually pretty resistant to TV, preferring CBC radio or a good
book, but my wife and I have been getting a real kick out of The Big
Bang Theory, a US sitcom about the trials and tribulations of some
post-doc physicists and their girl friends. You certainly don't need a
science degree to enjoy this. They are nerds with primitive social
skills and one of them is obsessive compulsive. Most of their girl
friends are nerds too, contrasted by the attractive, sexy neighbour
across the hall, the only "normal" person in the show. Since it is
carried by Rupert Murdock's Fox News network I suspect it is designed to
deprecate scientists and science in general. (Our current Canadian
government would encourage this). Regardless, the show is hilarious.
They must have a large stable of writers because there are 5 episodes a
week and each one is unique and imaginative. One indication of the wide
appeal of this show is that the elderly mother of my former colleague
from Bahrain loves it, as does he. (We both enjoyed Seinfeld too, to
give you an idea of my tastes).
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By
the way, my sister is obsessed with EVERYTHING British. Right now,
she's even planning to move to the UK. And we don't get BBC (the
American version), so she gets the Doctor Who episodes when she can.
According
to a young Aussy friend who stayed here for a few months the TV is good
here in the UK...it probably is. My god daughter (about 16) is obsessed
with the Dr Who thing (and NO amount of trying to tell her that the
Tardis has done things before that she apparently can't do now will be
heard ::) 8) ). Already a 'Potter-head' she then discovered
Merlin (also on the Beeb)...now her TV/Magical book time is strictly
limited!
I have to confess that my guilty pleasure was Primeval :-[ - I do hope they make another series!
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On a slightly different note, BBC radio ran a 'trailer interview'
about a BBC 2 programme at 9.00pm on Thursday night on Ludwig
Guttmann. He was a doctor who came to Britain as a refugee from
Hitler and was asked to set up the first Spinal Injuries Unit at Stoke
Mandeville. He changed the care of paraplegics and introduced
wheelchair sports. The competition between a Dutch team and the Stoke
Mandeville team laid the foundations for the modern Paralympics.
He was a humane man who transformed the future for many people in the UK and later worldwide and it could be worth a look.
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I love New Tricks
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I am always up for a 'New Trick' ;D and I do like 'Grand
Designs'. The things you can do with a bit of imagination and a (in most
cases) LOT of money.
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Would the 4th Sept 1916 have any significance?
The crew of the Manning have just been given a Holiday. (Lucky them)
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September 4, 1916 ? Jos? Echegaray y Eizaguirre, Spanish writer, Nobel Prize laureate (b. 1832) ???
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Lot of Lutherans or Eastern Orthodox around? I found it is a religious holiday for those two groups.
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Labor Day?
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The Russians colonized Russia, so yes, there were/are quite a few
Orthodox and Labor Day was on Sept 4th that year - I would bet on Labor
Day -
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Just wanted to say WOO HOO to Deej - only the 23rd perfect game in the history of baseball - did you see it?
Also, I hope you aren't affected by the fires -
ta
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For the cat lovers out there, from a book review in the Guardian
(28th July - it takes me a long time to get round to the Review ....)
'...
I learned here that researchers whisper among themselves about cats
who, when they learn which lever it is a scientist wants them to push,
would rather starve than push it again.'
Which is why I love cats!
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Just wanted to say WOO HOO to Deej - only the 23rd perfect game in the history of baseball - did you see it?
Also, I hope you aren't affected by the fires -
ta
Perfect
Game: NO!! :( I didn't. I'm so bummed. I got a
Skype from my wife saying "WHOA! GO FELIX!" and had to look it up.
And it's not being replayed (yet), either. When Randy Johnson got
the first no hitter in team history they replayed it a half dozen times
that week, so hopefully they'll be doing that with Felix's perfect
game. I watched the highlights last night, though. I sure
wouldn't have wanted to try to hit against him. He was
untouchable.
Considering it's otherwise just another crappy season in Marinerville, I'm really glad this happened.
Fires:
Nope, we're fine, but thanks for checking. We actually did just
move into an area that has experienced wildfires in the recent past, but
for some reason the hills around us haven't gone brown in this
heatwave, so we've been spared. About 20 miles to the east,
however, it's bad. Not "Hollywood Hills" bad, but bad.
Cats: I think I love them DESPITE that annoying trait, but boy did that description nail it.
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I offer you a shoulder re the Mariners - I'm mean, look at the Nats -
last year and now this year (WOO HOO) - there is always hope.
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`I am the Cat who walks by himself, and all places are alike to me. I will not come.'
;D
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Would the 4th Sept 1916 have any significance?
The crew of the Manning have just been given a Holiday. (Lucky them)
Thanks for the research.
Did you know 'the more you run over a cat, the flatter it gets.'
My master decided to find out if that was true.
It was. :'(
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Hi everyone,
Stuart just put a very useful reference to weather
clouds up in another string and it made me think that, when I were but a
nipper, my dad used to assess the amount of blue sky by how much of a
Dutch sailor's uniform (famed for using plenty of fabric) you could make
from it. The gradings were:
Enough blue sky to make:
- not even enough to make a dutch sailor's cap...some blue, but pretty scrappy little patches
- a cap...not much blue sky - but some small patches.
- a shirt - quite large patches of blue sky
- a shirt and cap - at least one sizable blue patch plus smaller others
- a pair of trousers, mostly blue sky (if it was a bit doubtful the class was 'trousers for the boys')
- shirt, cap and trousers, very few clouds at all
- dress the fleet - no clouds and sun all the way
Anyone
else use something similar/the same? I've no idea where he got it from -
but his mum did know it too (though she may have learnt it from dad?
possibly) ;D
oh yes - a completely cloudy sky was 'he's mending his shirt today'
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I'm sorry about that Stuart -
My favorite: Dogs have masters, cats have staff
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You own a dog.
You make friends with a cat or it will own you.
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I was adopted by a cat once (Toxie). He strolled into the garden,
ate my dinner (I wasn't vegie then), walsed into the house, settled down
by the radio..and that was it. We had a few very happy, and
rather eventful years together, he was very ferral and had all his gear
in tact. He left home for a better life on a farm when I lived out in
the sticks. Bless him.
- I get on well with dogs too - but brook no nonsense, I'm pack leader and all follow me!
They both have their virtues, cats and dogs. They are very different though...
;D
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Good morning everyone from me and the Ship's Cat (boss).
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Purr, purr, scratch.
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Scratch, no. Talk, yes.
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I was just copying what my little moggie did.
I assume he/it was being polite. ;D
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Hi everyone,
Stuart
just put a very useful reference to weather clouds up in another string
and it made me think that, when I were but a nipper, my dad used to
assess the amount of blue sky by how much of a Dutch sailor's uniform
(famed for using plenty of fabric) you could make from it. The gradings
were:
Enough blue sky to make:
- not even enough to make a dutch sailor's cap...some blue, but pretty scrappy little patches
- a cap...not much blue sky - but some small patches.
- a shirt - quite large patches of blue sky
- a shirt and cap - at least one sizable blue patch plus smaller others
- a pair of trousers, mostly blue sky (if it was a bit doubtful the class was 'trousers for the boys')
- shirt, cap and trousers, very few clouds at all
- dress the fleet - no clouds and sun all the way
Anyone
else use something similar/the same? I've no idea where he got it from -
but his mum did know it too (though she may have learnt it from dad?
possibly) ;D
oh yes - a completely cloudy sky was 'he's mending his shirt today'
My
family said something similar although without the detailed scale (just
the trousers or a full suit!) and it wasn't specifically a Dutch
sailor, just a sailor. I did a bit of searching and found a couple of
mentions.
http://www.randomhouse.com/wotd/index.pperl?date=20000712
http://www.phrases.org.uk/bulletin_board/51/messages/679.html
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Oh dear, just came on this morning having had to bury one of my cats yesterday and found lots of stuff about cats.
She
had been away for a couple of days, not unusual, came back in a really
poorly way, staggering and just laid down, so I took her to the vets.
Acute renal failure, possibly poisoning, or an accident, so she had to
be put down.
Just left with one cat and the mad dog, Tegwen, but they are both fine.
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I'm glad at least that she found herself home and safe and with family at the end, and sorry for your loss.
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I'm glad at least that she found herself home and safe and with family at the end, and sorry for your loss.
Indeed,
that is a comfort to me too and I hope it was to her. Thank you very
much Janet, I really appreciate your kind thoughts.
K
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Janet put it so well that I simply add my condolences to her words. :-*
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I add my condolences - I'm glad that at last you knew what had happened. Helps a bit ...
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I am so sorry Keith.
I know how much I miss our two - and what good care they took of me.
As Janet says, at least she was home and cared for at the end.
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Scott's wrecked ship Terra Nova found off Greenland (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-19288188)
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I am so sad to hear your news, Keith.
I'm sure that Tegwen and your other cat will be of comfort to you. Hugs from us all.
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My
family said something similar although without the detailed scale (just
the trousers or a full suit!) and it wasn't specifically a Dutch
sailor, just a sailor. I did a bit of searching and found a couple of
mentions.
http://www.randomhouse.com/wotd/index.pperl?date=20000712
http://www.phrases.org.uk/bulletin_board/51/messages/679.html
Gosh! Never thought to try and find it on the net! What fun! Thanks for that and your memory.
J ;D ;D
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My
family said something similar although without the detailed scale (just
the trousers or a full suit!) and it wasn't specifically a Dutch
sailor, just a sailor. I did a bit of searching and found a couple of
mentions.
http://www.randomhouse.com/wotd/index.pperl?date=20000712
http://www.phrases.org.uk/bulletin_board/51/messages/679.html
Gosh! Never thought to try and find it on the net! What fun! Thanks for that and your memory.
J ;D ;D
Thank you all for your kind thoughts.
My parents and I think my maternal grand parents all used the expression about enough blue sky to make a dutchman's britchers.
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Keith:
Our thoughts and prayers are with you and yours. :-*
Pets
are INDEED part of the family and we miss them when they pass. We
buried our pup after 14 years together last year and I still look for
her when we come home, etc. :'(
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Its the hardest thing about having a pet - :'( :(
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So sorry to hear your news, Keith, and would like to add my
condolences too. Over the past few weeks I have twice thought I
was going to be in the same position, having taken a cat to the vet not
expecting to bring him home again, and have been so lucky that they both
pulled through.
Cats leave pawprints on your heart.
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Manning.
Dotter practice held, when practicable.
Dotter ??
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Hi Stuart,
Just makinmg a last trip round the decks before darken ship...
Blighty late night service is pleased to provide you with the following information:
2
What Does THAT mean? / Re: Dotter instruction
? by thursdaynext on January 15, 2012, 08:18:57 PM ?
Found this at: http://www.stormeaglestudios.com/phpbb3/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=210
"The
dotter was a device for measuring the gunlayer's ability to hold
"continuous aim". It consisted of paper targets in front of the sights,
with the targets able to move around constantly. The gunner looked
through his sight and manipulated his controls of the actual gun to keep
the sight centered on the moving target at all times. Attached to the
sight was a pen that moved back and forth every second or so to make a
dot on the paper corresponding to the sight's position relative to the
target at that time. The goal was to get all the dots densely clustered
in the center of the target regardless of its motion."
You learn something every day on OW!
To which Kathy replied:
For some reason, I get a mental picture of Luke Skywalker whirling around in the Millennium Falcon ;D
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I'd rather read about dotter than do it I think! :o ;D ;D
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Nice find Joan.
Looks like there are some interesting books in the related books section.
Now all I have to do is work out how to read them.
I put your book in my google library and can see it but cannot open it.
You may hit the hammock now, sweet dreams. :D
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Nice find Joan.
Looks like there are some interesting books in the related books section.
Now all I have to do is work out how to read them.
I put your book in my google library and can see it but cannot open it.
You may hit the hammock now, sweet dreams. :D
Hi Stuart,
Erm.....which book section? Sorry to sound like a dunce!
Joan
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Are you using Google Play's "My Bookshelf"? I had no problem
putting there and reading it. There may be a problem inside your
computer. ???
Joan, Google has its own bookstore/library online: http://books.google.com/
You
can research lots of topics, and they have lots of scanned online
books. Many of the old copyright-expired ones are free to read in
full, without signing up for anything. If you want to keep going
back to the same book for reference, such as the Pilot books with all
the lovely place names navigators need, you can establish your own
'library'. I've found that one has lots of glitches for reading
sometimes. Or you can sign up for Google Play, and "purchase" the
free ebooks for your "My Bookshelf".
I think searching Google
books is how someone located John Muir's "Voyage of the Corwin"
stuff. Sometimes, even if an ebook isn't availble, you can search
the book and read passages online.
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Oh! Gosh it's a crazy world trying to keep up with what you
can access on the net - I'll have a snoop around google book
soon...thanks ever so for the tip.
BTW = another thread has just
received a message from someone who has a huge amount of info on
the Iphigenia..she has taken Iphigenia as her avatar name. I think it's
really for a moderator to reply...it looke to be very fascinating
indeed.
Joan
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I pointed her to Naval History and sent Gordon a message ;D
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I'll also point her to the rich stuff Gordon already has on the White Sea expedition. What richness, between them! :)
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Great!
My knowledge of the history side is limited.
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Quote
Hi Stuart,
Erm.....which book section? Sorry to sound like a dunce!
Joan
end quote.
Books like this are available (and I can read on my PC)
via
this link
https://play.google.com/store/books/author?id=Great+Britain.+Admiralty
(https://play.google.com/store/books/author?id=Great+Britain.+Admiralty)
I found.
James_Cook_A_Voyage_to_the_Pacific_Ocean
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Google Books users please help.
Went to the link in Joans post below (storm.....etc) and found a link
http://books.google.com/books?id=pzUuAA ... &q&f=false (http://books.google.com/books?id=pzUuAA ... &q&f=false)
which took me to Google Books and the 'handbook for seaman gunners.'
clicked 'add to read 'near top of page.
Cannot find the book in my books.
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I use the library when they don't have a free ebook for me, but it
is definitely wonky. Which is why I gave in and signed up for
Google Play to have their "My Bookshelf" for the ones whose ebook
edition I can download.
The seven parts of Naval-History.net Gordon devoted to his grandfather:
http://www.naval-history.net/RecordRN190428SmithGW.htm
http://www.naval-history.net/WW1z05NorthRussia.htm
http://www.naval-history.net/WW1z06Baltic.htm
http://www.naval-history.net/WW1z08America-Curlew.htm
http://www.naval-history.net/WW1z07Americas.htm
http://www.naval-history.net/WW1z08China-Durban.htm
http://www.naval-history.net/WW1z10RNSSS.htm
His father:
http://www.naval-history.net/RecordRN193843SmithGCW.htm
His uncle-by-marriage:
http://www.naval-history.net/WXMemoirSummerleeJ1.htm
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Now here's a ship you wouldn't want to be posted to - on the
northern patrol, on 27 November 1916, Hilary 'signalled HMT
Armageddon'. Probably from a safe distance .... ;D
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Trawler Armageddon / DHOON GLEN
http://www.wrecksite.eu/wreck.aspx?163913
http://www.battleships-cruisers.co.uk/naval_trawlers.htm
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Good morning/evening Stuart, hello everyone.
Quiet in here, isn't it?
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Morning OW and Caro - the weather is a bit cooler now so I can get things done!
All the boats that were moored/parked at Canary Wharf are now gone, the dock looks so empty now.
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Gudday Caro and Geoff
Not much to report, only that HMAS Melbourne arrived back from a 6 mth deployment.
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"Gudday", did you say, Stuart? "Gudday" ??? It's "G'day" old
chap, you should know that by now. You be careful, or you'll have
the Bogan language police on your (metaphorical) doorstep.
Alright ... who's going to be first to wonder what a 'Bogan' is?
Cheers,
Steeleye
PS Good evening, shipmates.
;D ;D ;D
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is it one ov thos mof things?
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I know what a Bogan is. ;)
Hi Geoff and Steeleye.
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So what do they call 'Bogans' in your neck of the woods, Caro? (Not a trick question - I was just wondering.)
:-\
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"Gudday",
did you say, Stuart? "Gudday" ??? It's "G'day" old chap, you
should know that by now. You be careful, or you'll have the Bogan
language police on your (metaphorical) doorstep.
Alright ... who's going to be first to wonder what a 'Bogan' is?
Cheers,
Steeleye
PS Good evening, shipmates.
;D ;D ;D
Sorry Steeleye.
Being a POZI is hard. I have to change language depending who is on line.
It's hard for a simple person like me.
:-[
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So what do they call 'Bogans' in your neck of the woods, Caro? (Not a trick question - I was just wondering.)
:-\
How to answer that question?! I don't think there is a direct equivalent.
If anyone has a suggestion, make sure it's not offensive please!
It's OK Stuart and Steeleye. I speak Aussie.
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Early night for me.
Goodnight all.
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So what do they call 'Bogans' in your neck of the woods, Caro? (Not a trick question - I was just wondering.)
:-\
How to answer that question?! I don't think there is a direct equivalent.
If anyone has a suggestion, make sure it's not offensive please!
It's OK Stuart and Steeleye. I speak Aussie.
I shouldn't encourage this but an 'oik' might be pretty close.
One type or another, we are all part of life's rich pattern! ;D
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OK Stuart ... you've got me with that one. POZI?
'Oik' has a nice ring to it, I must admit.
:D
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P(Pome)OZI (Oztralian)
I call my kids (early 30s) POZIs as I am English (POME or pommy) and my wife is Australian (OZI)
;)
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We're starting to sound like twins here. By your definition, I am also a POZI and my 'kids' are in their early 30s.
8)
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Twin sons from different mothers??!! ;)
Daryl and his other brother Daryl??!! ;)
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Good morning OW. Nice to see a few people online already. :D
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I suppose it's almost afternoon for you, Caro, but good morning
anyway. There's not much action on the forum lately. I guess many are on
vacation. There doesn't appear to be a lot of people transcribing
either.
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Good evening Caro and colleagues. It's the late shift working
down here - beavering away while listening to Neil Oliver's 'The Last
Explorers' in th background. I think he has to be one of the best of the
history narrators of the past few years. I wonder if we can get
him to do a series on the minutiae of Royal Navy logs of the Georgian
period?
???
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I
suppose it's almost afternoon for you, Caro, but good morning anyway.
There's not much action on the forum lately. I guess many are on
vacation. There doesn't appear to be a lot of people transcribing
either.
I've been trying to keep up! ;D ;D ;D
It
was eerily quiet on the Forum this a.m. I thought we were all
eyes down and going for it. Certainly randi and leelaht are whipping
through the Rodgers at a real rate of knots.
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I've been shaped d o w n t
o 6
4 k. :'(
So my work will be slow for a day or to.
(Damned BOINC for taking the bandwidth, well at least my stereo is not on the router) ;D
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Hurrah! Long live the stereo then! ;D ;D ;D
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Evening Joan.
Poor Gastcra got the blame from his wife for BOINC mucking up the stereo.
64k is like watching paint dry, thank God it is not 56k.
It is that slow that some log pages don't fully load. The data does not show when it times out.
Unfortunately
one of the crew reprimands appears to referred to this smack on the
wrist from the Division Commander. If I could get back to edit I would
have noted it. well another to add to the list of revisits.
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/USS%20Manning/Manning_1916b/B1462_0529.jpg
(http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/USS%20Manning/Manning_1916b/B1462_0529.jpg)
Talking
about paint, better go and put another coat on the cradle I made for my
kids, ready for the first Grandchild in Jan. ;D
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Hi Stuart,
Well - sympathies for Gastcra - but you should hear
what Boinc did to my microwave the other day... I blame it all on the
Mars Lander myself. ::) ;)
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Hi Stuart,
Well
- sympathies for Gastcra - but you should hear what Boinc did to my
microwave the other day... I blame it all on the Mars Lander
myself. ::) ;)
Here is the REAL reason!!!!!! ;)
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THAT IS VERY, VERY, VERY FUNNY!!! I love it! ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Evening Joan.
Poor Gastcra got the blame from his wife for BOINC mucking up the stereo.
64k is like watching paint dry, thank God it is not 56k.
It is that slow that some log pages don't fully load. The data does not show when it times out.
Unfortunately
one of the crew reprimands appears to referred to this smack on the
wrist from the Division Commander. If I could get back to edit I would
have noted it. well another to add to the list of revisits.
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/USS%20Manning/Manning_1916b/B1462_0529.jpg
(http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/USS%20Manning/Manning_1916b/B1462_0529.jpg)
Talking
about paint, better go and put another coat on the cradle I made for my
kids, ready for the first Grandchild in Jan. ;D
Cripes! Just saw your edits Stuart.
So
someone was reading the logs after all! :o :o They won't
find fault with the Intrepid - it's difficult to condemn what's not
there. ::) ::)
Awww - doting grandad paints crib :-* :-* :-* .....send us a picture when it's done! I'm jealous of your skills! J
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I've
been shaped d o w n t
o 6 4
k. :'(
So my work will be slow for a day or to.
What
a surprise for us digital sophisticates, Stuart. I wasn't aware
that broadband had made it to the wilds of the NSW Southern Highlands
yet.
:D
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Aw funny steeleye, just because you Canberrans have the pollies, don't mean you have everything..
I
had ADSL broadband then I changed to wireless broadband for use in the
caravan, but the van rarely gets used do to ill health in the family.
I went from 80Gb to 4Gb bandwidth. BOINC seems to use a lot. Maybe that was initial downloads and it gets less later.
Did you get the bad weather today?
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I was merely being envious about broadband arriving in the Southern
Highlands, Stuart. Here, in the 'Bush Capital', I still run a
couple of wires with bulldog clips on the ends to the nearest barbed
wire fence. Slow, but very cheap. :o
'getting' (current) rather than 'get' (past tense) applies to the cruddy weather today.
Strange
weather at the moment, but that seems to be the norm these days.
We had snow a week ago (huge flakes mixed with rain), yesterday we had a
perfect late winter's day at 19C (66F for those who insist on using
$US), 20 minutes of spectacular thunder and lightning at about 4 this
morning, and it's been raining more or less continuously since dawn.
About the only meteorological conditions we've missed since last
Wednesday are tornadoes and a cyclone and they, thankfully, are a
rarity.
I see you're not playing steam trains today - don't want to get the paint and brass-work wet?
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Good morning, afternoon and evening to you all. :)
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Good evening Caro. Looks like it's only thee and me working at the moment.
;)
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Who said I was working?
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You're saying that you only come here to socialise? (gasping sound emanates)
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;D Not exactly.
Our job at the moment, as you may have noticed, is, ahem, clearing the decks in preparation for Phase III.
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You might have to use grappling hooks to retrieve some of us from the history editing!
;D
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Unfortunately one of the crew reprimands appears to
referred to this smack on the wrist from the Division Commander. If I
could get back to edit I would have noted it. well another to add to the
list of revisits.
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/USS%20Manning/Manning_1916b/B1462_0529.jpg
(http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/USS%20Manning/Manning_1916b/B1462_0529.jpg)
That's
really interesting; I've just started on Manning and am back in March
1916 - when the very same ship's cook was recorded as being late back
from leave. He obviously made a habit of it.
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Not ships at all - but I was just sitting at my desk editing
Britomart when I caught a movement at the window out of the corner of my
eye. There on the windowsill was a squirrel, peering in and
wondering whether to come in (the window has been very wide open for
days now and s/he could easily have stepped inside). What really
baffled me was how the creature got there, seeing I'm on the first floor
(for Americans - the second floor :D), and there are no trees
close enough to have helped him up ....
I'm now wondering whether I
ought to close the window up somewhat when I'm going out - I imagine a
rampaging squirrel could do quite a lot of damage.
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Not
ships at all - but I was just sitting at my desk editing Britomart when
I caught a movement at the window out of the corner of my eye.
There on the windowsill was a squirrel, peering in and wondering whether
to come in (the window has been very wide open for days now and s/he
could easily have stepped inside). What really baffled me was how
the creature got there, seeing I'm on the first floor (for Americans -
the second floor :D), and there are no trees close enough to have
helped him up ....
I'm now wondering whether I ought to close the
window up somewhat when I'm going out - I imagine a rampaging squirrel
could do quite a lot of damage.
Lawks
- what a nightmare - canny little squirrel though! I can tell you that
when the head of English at Merton College got a squirrel in his room
(it walked in on a sadly proximal tree branch) and threatened to make
bedding out of some very precious folios (we're talking 2/3/400 years
old) there was a long hunt to evict the little rotter sweet beastie...
Either
your squirrel is improving the local DNA strain by being daring and
getting into premises that probably don't protect their bins and thereby
getting best pickings, or he/she is trying to opt out of the DNA pool
by enterprisingly going where no squirrel has had the intelligence to go
before. Close the window and go out..nature red in tooth and claw
will deal with the rest as she sees fit.
:-\ :-\ :-\
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H i, a l l.
A h, t h at's better, up to speed again.
Janet,
My friend in England had a pet squirrel. Sitting watching the idiot box
it would run along the back of the couch and brush by my hair just
enough to make me go (shakes and shivers his head).
My Toyoto is mentioned quite a few times. Beware of his other bad habits.
Steeleye, Tuesday and Wednesday are play days.
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Try this ;D
http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=nWU0bfo-bSY&vq=small
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That's some smart squirrel Harry.
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I have a recipe for squirrel gravy somewhere ;)
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A warning for those uncouth heathens who, like myself, use a PC
rather than one of those quiche-like Macs. If you are using McAfee
anti-virus software, be warned that an update they released last
weekend can cause problems. This update can result in your being
unable to access the internet. This will probably make it
difficult for you to transcribe weather obs or to edit your ship
histories. This litle problem led to an entirely wasted afternoon
for me. Great. The solution, if the problem occurs and you suspect
McAfee is the problem, is to uninstall the Mcafee software (which will
enable you to access the net again) and download/re-install the
software.
It's possible that owning a Dell computer exacerbates the problem.
There is more info on the McAfee site. Unsurprisingly, they don't accompany the info with an apology!
Now for the avalanche of "I told you so' responses from the quiche Mac computer lobby.
;D ;D ;D
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Wow, that's pretty stupid on their part, Steeleye. You might
consider changing antivirus software. I am happy with Avast (no relation
to Joan, that I know of ;D).
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A couple of years sufscription to McAfee software came 'free' with
the Dell computer that I bought last year. This the first problem
that I have had with them, so I probably won't leave the fold yet!
They won't want to upset me again, however!
;D
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EEK!!! This is me - McAfee free with recent Dell purchase. GGGrrrrr as if life isn't sufficiently fuill of hassles...
No relation to Avast btw! ;D ;D ;D
Right off to McAfee website
::) ::) ::)
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Only ~150 Mb of software to download from McAfee, Joan. Time
for a least a couple of cups of tea/coffee while you're waiting.
Info from a couple of techs at different places indicates that the problem is very likely a combination of McAfee and Dell.
Have fun!
Howard
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Dear Steeleye:
Once Mac you'll never go back! ;)
I work with both and they BOTH have their 'issues.' My wife owns a Dell. Sorry about your problems. :'(
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Only
~150 Mb of software to download from McAfee, Joan. Time for a
least a couple of cups of tea/coffee while you're waiting.
Info from a couple of techs at different places indicates that the problem is very likely a combination of McAfee and Dell.
Have fun!
Howard
Thanks
Howard...sigh!!!! ::) ::) ::) I had a good look through the
community site and it does seem like Dell are hiding behind McAfee's
skirts! Never a dull life.... ;D ::) ;D
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I was just watching Flog It and there was a watercolour of HMS
Bellona and T35 and T36 being auctioned. The expert said it was from a
'prolific' painter of maritime scenes of the period, but I didn't get
the chance to catch the painter. Let's hope they mention him again...
Funny how I can now immediately spot that the ships on the painting were WW1 era...:).
It
was by William...Birchall? Sounded like that, I am not a native English
speaker and names sometimes elude me. Ah. Close up of the name,
Birchall it is.
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One blessing I have in my life is that I almost invariably sleep
soundly...if a volcano went up underneath Oxford in the night I'd be
interested to hear how it was going over
breakfast-at-the-usual-time. But on the Rodgers they've just put
up the mainsail at 2.30 in the morning - I guess boats were creaky/noisy
anyway - but surely that must have made a colossal racket? I guess if
you've spent half the day dragging miles of heavy canvas and ropes up
and down several tall trees you'd sleep whatever. Anyone had the
experience?
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No idea about the noise of a mainsail going up - but I live not very
far from Oxford, so if a volcano erupts overnight, I promise to let you
know how it felt (at a decent hour in the morning ...) ;)
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Don't forget the sounds of the ice!
'The devil's symphony': http://blog.oldweather.org/2012/08/12/roaring-buzzing-wheezing-and-shrieking/
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No
idea about the noise of a mainsail going up - but I live not very far
from Oxford, so if a volcano erupts overnight, I promise to let you know
how it felt (at a decent hour in the morning ...) ;)
Cheers helenj, I think you're north of me - if you hear it I'll probably will be toast anyway! ;D ;D ;D
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Good morning OW from me and my McAfee-protected Dell.
All working normally. :D
Happy birthday Els!
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Morning Caro!
Central South Blighty ready for duty.
Happy birthday Els!
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Happy Birthday Els!
(Count yourself lucky that you can't hear me sing "Happy Birthday" to you! ;))
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Morning OW, nice cool morning here.
Happy birthday Els :)
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Happy Birthday, Els!
(http://www.smileyvault.com/albums/emoticons/mood/mood-emoticon-0017.gif)
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Happy New Year Els from the Antipodean very Ordinary Seamen and good evening everybody.
A
beautiful late winter's day here in Canberra, topped off by having the
kids (and 4-month old grandson) round for dinner and to watch our footy
team beat the previously top-placed team and go top of the ladder with
one more round before the finals. Excellent!
http://www.afl.com.au/tabid/16931/Default.aspx#fixtureid=7843&tab=Recap
(http://www.afl.com.au/tabid/16931/Default.aspx#fixtureid=7843&tab=Recap)
To round off a good day, the handwriting of Carmania's log-keeper is pretty clear.
All is right with the world (at least in this little corner).
;D ;D ;D
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8) 8) 8) 8) 8) ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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TO ELS ON HER 21st BIRTHDAY
Fries, mayo, mussels -
solving the forum's wee tussles -
This round is on me,
and, as I'm sure all will agree,
what we all want to say,
is simply HAPPY BIRTHDAY!
;D :-*
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Dear Friends,
[Please listen to Mars from The Planets in your heads beginning NOW]
Please
keep me in your thought today. I am facing a monumental
challenge, that will require all my strength, guile, and cunning to
overcome. Today marks the beginning of a clash of Titans, Giants
striding about the field of battle, Jets flying high and then
bombing. Today, Lions roar and Bengals growl. Eagles,
Seahawks, and Falcons roam the skies. Buccaneers seek to pillage,
and Cowboys seek to dominate the Redskins in the East...
It is DRAFT DAY!*
(
For those who have been living in caves for the past 100 years,
;D, US football begins soon and today is Draft Day for my fantasy
football league)
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Blimey Wendolk - I need to lie down after that message...phew I'm pooped, my head spins, my legs have buckled clean away.
G O O D L U C K ! ! !
Joan :-* ;D
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YOU CAN DO IT KATHY!
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Another warning to owners of Dells with McAfee virus protection.
Save a copy of this page now: http://service.mcafee.com/faq/TS101446.htm
I got caught this evening but thanks to Steeleye's warning I had saved the help page.
It's relatively easy to fix as long as you can open your computer in safe mode.
Oh, and go Kathy!
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If that full page didn't go out to customers by email, it seems to
me to be very much a case of locking your keys in the car while it is in
the middle of traffic. You know what you need to do to get it
moving, and that resource isn't available. Very frustrating.
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Glad to see you back from the internet wilderness then! ;D ;D ;D
I
had a bit of a set-too today just after uploading an upgrade - and lost
firefox main page. CAN I JUST SAY that it is worth everyone
taking time to make copies of their bookmarks - I have a LOT of
them thanks to all our maps and other external helpful info
lists...and loosing them would probably send me into a real spin.
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Done - thanks!
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Thank you all for your good wishes -
I got most of the players I wanted - primarily Dallas players (my dream is to field a team of all Cowboys ;D ) -
The season starts the Wednesday after Labor Day - Dallas vs the stinking Giants (we hate them!) -
And, the Nationals (baseball) are the best team is baseball! :o
Let the games begin!
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Glad to hear you got a lot of your dream team Kathy! ;D
ok - my
only experience of baseball is one episode of Dr Quinn Medicine
Woman. How long do games last? We have a game here called
'rounders' which must be pretty similar. :D :D
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I sing with the Niagara Frontier Retired Men's Service Chorus. So if you'll allow me.................
ELs
Happy Birthday to you,
Happy Birthday to you,
Happy Birthday dear ELLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLsssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss,
Happy Birthday to you!
Hope it's a happy one and that you get lots of neat presents!
Hope also you get to share with family! ;D
Blessings, Dean ;)
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The games last until one team wins - there are no ties in baseball -
the longest game was 33 innings and lasted 8 hrs 25 mins -
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Longest_professional_baseball_game
here is the Wiki article about it -
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The moon is dark tonight -
Neil Armstrong died today :(
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:'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(
Dark indeed - and I am sad for myself too - another childhood hero passes into history.
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May his soul rest in peace.
Is picturing eternity easier when you are one of the few to experience the depths of space, and the greatness of creation?
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Wszystkiego najlepszego Els!
Zdrowia, szczęścia pomyślności.
;D
no tanslation. ;)
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Neil Armstrong :'(
Legend has become a legend.
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Good morning all and thanks so much for all the birthday wishes ! :-*
But what sad news ! RIP Neil Armstrong !
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Good morning OW.
RIP Neil Armstrong, a true hero.
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The man was a hero. And he has experienced something so few of us ever get to.
RIP.
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A quiet hero who now likely knows the true answer to the question 'What is out there?!' ;)
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Good morning all,
The sun is a-shining to welcome the day, so I
purloined this picture of St Mary's fields which is probably how it
looked this a.m.
Have a good one!
:D :D :D
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Beautiful photo Joan. When Lady Steeleye and I were in the UK less
than two months ago we hired a narrowboat for 4 days on the Oxford
Canal. We moored on the outskirts of Kidlington one day and walking into
the centre of town for lunch - a nice place and people to match.
Is that where you live?
Cheers,
Howard
8)
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How wonderful - I am so glad that you liked it Howard. Yes it is
where I live, very happily. It is, I understand, the largest village in
the world (certainly in the UK ;D). Although much of it is
'bungalow city' the older buildings and areas are a mixture of Chilterns
and Cotswolds types from the 17th and 18th centuries, the village
having been very wealthy in the past. The High Street leads over to St
Mary's church and almshouses, which are on the very edge of the village
by the fields. The canal and river make lovely walks, and a Sunday trot
up to Thrupp canal basin is always a treat.
Best wishes,
Joan
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... and the Thrupp winding hole is where we first learned how to
turn a 47 ft canal boat in a restricted space. (We made sure we did it
very early in the day so that our learning experience went largely
un-noticed by the locals!) While the Oxford canal is most picturesque
(even in the rain), we were somewhat surprised at the number of boats
that were permanently moored. It made the process of finding a place to
berth our 'bed' for the night a major factor in our activities every
day.
:)
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Well planned for the boat turn around!
Oxford has so much
pressure on housing that there are a high number of permanent
moorings. Some in very poor condition it has to be noted. I
hope it didn't make things too difficult for you. Philip Pullman, the
novelist, tried very hard to save the old canal centre in Oxford in
order to allow more spaces...but in the end a developer got the area for
swish new apartment blocks.
J :)
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I seem to recall that there was talk of digging up a carpark at the
southern end of the canal and returning it to be part of the canal again
... but that may just be wishful thinking on my part. We did have
one brilliantly sunny day on the canal - the photo below was taken just
south of the Yarnton bridge in Kidlington; you should recognise the tow
path!
H
8)
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I do indeed recognize that towpath! ;) :D
Yes - the
Gloucester Green car park in Oxford is (still) due to be dug up and
returned to a canal basin... picture to follow. If they get it
right it'd be a wonderful spot to sit in. Nuffield College sits on part
of the basin - and has a suitably canal-sized square pond in its quad.
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Arctic sea ice reaches record low, Nasa says (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-19393075)
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Yeah, I saw that too - I blamed everyone who's been leaving their computer on specifically to run BOINC projects ...
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I don't turn my heating on til xmas..and then only enough to
keep the worst off. I dice my spuds up small so they cook faster.
And for beans I use a pressure cooker to more than halve the time to
cook. I'm trying!!!!!! :-[ :-[ :-[
( :D :D :D)
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Morning all.
You don't turn the heating on until Christmas, Joan?
Brave woman. Ours is on (low) by November most years.
But then, we very rarely need summer air-cooling in this part of the world. ;)
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Good evening shipmates ... another 37 minutes and it will be 'good
morning' here as well. The late shift has just clocked in.
;D
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And a civilized good morning to you now from Chicago. Hello, Aussie night owl! :)
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Hi Janet. It looks like your weather has become a little more
civilised recently - about 23C at the moment, it seems. We're down to
about 3C, coming up to midnight, and the heater is OFF! Do you expect to
get much rain out of Isaac up your way in the coming days?
???
I'm
always fascinated by the weather in Baghdad at this time of year. About
a month ago, they had a temp range on one day of 39-50C, which I
thought would have been a bit hard to handle. It's been cooling off
somewhat recently - a quite mild 24-43C today (and 11%
unhumidity). People fight over the place? How weird ... there must
be something other than the climate that attracts them.
::)
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hello all -
my hubris seems to have offended the gods of
sport - my beloved Nats have lost 5 in a row - I'm hoping the gods will
accept this mea culpa and lift the curse :'(
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Look at it this way Kathy: those 5 lost games are what - about 3% of
your season (I think)? They should make that up by the weekend if they
have a good run. How do you manage to maintain your enthusiam when the
season is sooo long? - just wondering.
:-\
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Hi
Janet. It looks like your weather has become a little more civilised
recently - about 23C at the moment, it seems. We're down to about 3C,
coming up to midnight, and the heater is OFF! Do you expect to get much
rain out of Isaac up your way in the coming days?
???
Isaac
or its remains are going to pass over at least half of the drought
areas, which is good, and completely flood them, which is not so
much. They say it is level 1 wind strength but more than 300 miles
across and moving slow. They're guessing (hurricanes aren't very
predictable) that the remains will hit Chicago this weekend with 1 to 2
inches of rain, having survived a 800 mile overland journey. New
Orleans has already picked up 12 inches of rain in the last day.
(The map is average for the delineated areas, I think.)
I'm
always fascinated by the weather in Baghdad at this time of year. About
a month ago, they had a temp range on one day of 39-50C, which I
thought would have been a bit hard to handle. It's been cooling off
somewhat recently - a quite mild 24-43C today (and 11%
unhumidity). People fight over the place? How weird ... there must
be something other than the climate that attracts them.
If
it has always been your family home, you have roots deep enough to
resist weather. Take hate-the-cold me and Chicago blizzards, for
example. ;D
http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/graphics_at4.shtml?5-daynl#contents
(http://www.hpc.ncep.noaa.gov/qpf/p120i12.gif)
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I know - 162 games sound like a lot, but it doesn't feel like a lot -
its like watching the news every night - and it is not the same
team every night - the Nationals have a 5 starting pitcher rotation; 3
catchers that rotate every 5 games, I think, that sort of thing.
The infield never changes - 1st base, 2nd, short stop, and 3rd are
basically the same every game, but the outfield rotates around.
That makes it interesting - and watching Gio Gonzalaz and Steven
Strasburg pitch, and watching Ryan Zimmerman and Ian Desmond fielding is
fascinating!
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hello all -
my
hubris seems to have offended the gods of sport - my beloved Nats have
lost 5 in a row - I'm hoping the gods will accept this mea culpa and
lift the curse :'(
Te absolvo - even if the gods won't. ;D
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hello all -
my
hubris seems to have offended the gods of sport - my beloved Nats have
lost 5 in a row - I'm hoping the gods will accept this mea culpa and
lift the curse :'(
Maybe
you need to sacrifice a goat, a child, or whatever else seems
appropriate? Bad theology I know - but you do sound
desperate. ;D
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Maybe a ball and a bat? :P
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Whatever seems likely to work - we can't have you distracted from the serious work of OW by bad results all season .... ;D
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Maybe it is already a sign that you have your priorities wrong ;)
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maybe that is it - I have slipped! :o :o Football
season is coming up - I'll have to really work to keep up OW!
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Woo Hoo - the Nationals won last night - Bryce Harper had 2 home
runs (a very rare thing) and I didn't have to sacrifice anything save,
well, a bunt. ;D
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It's good to see that all is again well on Planet Wendolkowski.
Back to work Kathy!
:D
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Now that the season is almost ended maybe we can get THEM to help with Phase 3!! ;D
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Au contraire mon ami - I have a feeling the Nats' season will last thru October ;D
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Help needed:
I am not a captain on my ship. On my transcribe page it says:
Lieutenant randi
1608 weather reports on 156 pages contributed to this voyage. -1607 weather reports more for promotion to Captain
Would someone who is a captain please post what they show?
Also, someone who is a cadet please?
Thanks!
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Cadet wendolk
0 weather reports on 17 pages contributed to this voyage. 30 weather reports more for promotion to Lieutenant
:P
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I can no longer visit the Corwin pages because I have finished them
all, but I had the same message as you, Randi. I was the defacto captain
with about -3000 pages to go to be officially recognized.
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Is anyone CURRENTLY having trouble getting the "Events of the Day" page for Manning?
Thanks
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I have never received all pages from Manning.
Now I get only
the weather pages. Back at the beginning when the pages were
split, I was only given the left half of each page, never seeing the
rest of the readings or comments. This I believe to be the only
ship with that problem.
I use Chrome.
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I've just done the weather page, and have the events of the day fine - 8th April. I'm using Firefox.
BTW,
is anything happening about the way the box (of the right size, hooray)
is still appearing at the bottom of the page? It's maddening, and
really slows down transcribing.
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Arfon is working on it. How long it will take is unknown, but the work is active now.
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Thanks helenj - anyone else on Manning?
I did notice that Manning seems to have a different system of page numbering - no _0, _1 maybe that is it ???
I use Firefox too and those boxes at the bottom REALLY annoy me too!
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Thanks Janet, as long as I know it's being worked on, I'll try to
remain positive! It was working OK before the latest fix, so I'm
hoping it won't be too much work for Arfon.
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Manning is the only ship that was not scanned from a butterfly-open
book. Only one page was scanned at a time. So when the
computer split it as usual into x_0 and x_1, it cut everything in
half. Which has since been repaired, eliminating that suffix
entirely. It is also the only ship that has no possible column for
a barometer-attached thermometer, making it necessary to remember a box has to be skipped.
I think it's a case of life deciding to make the ease of a typed log difficult anyway. Murphy at work! ::)
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Nostalgia Fix.
There has been some interest expressed in "The Navy Lark".
The
beeb is to broadcast (at least) three shows with background
information. The initial times are 09.00 and 19.00 GMT Saturday 1st
September Radio 4 Extra; most of these broadcasts are available for
seven days, but not all of them.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4extra/programmes/schedules/2012/09/01
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Woo
Hoo - the Nationals won last night - Bryce Harper had 2 home runs (a
very rare thing) and I didn't have to sacrifice anything save, well, a
bunt. ;D
I
understand all the words, individually, but gathered together, and in
that order, they convey marginally less than nothing to me.
Perhaps I should stay in more often.
It seems that they are a source
of pleasure to you, for which I am glad, but I regret that my ignorance
renders me unable to join in, meaningfully, with your rejoicing.
I
am slightly concerned by your final phrase and am contemplating
forming "P.D.S.A.M.B.S" - Please Don't Sacrifice Any More
Bunts Society.
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Hi Bunts ( :-*):
A glossary -
The Nationals -
Washington DC's baseball team. They are currently the 2nd best
team in baseball, .001% behind the Cincinnati Reds.
Bryce Harper -
19 year old phenom - a fantastic player, well on his way to being the
Wayne Rooney (but not badly behaved) of baseball.
Home Run - a
ball that is hit in such a way as to be uncatchable by the opposite team
before it hits the ground, thus allowing the hitter to run thru 1st,
2nd, and 3rd base and back to home plate. A home run can be an "in
the park" one, which means the ball does not clear the fence around the
field, but the opposite team is unable to get the ball back to home
plate before the runner (hitter) gets around the bases. This is a
very rare type of hit. The other type of home run is one where the
ball is hit hard enough and with enough lift to go over the fence
around the baseball field.
Sacrifice Bunt and Sacrifice Fly -
these are 2 types of hits. A bunt is a ball hit with an extremely
shortened swing so that the ball hits the ground and does not travel far
from home plate. A fly ball is a hit that goes extremely high in
the air and is thus easily caught (the defense is able to go to the spot
where the ball will come down and catch it before it hits the
ground). Both hits are considered sacrifices when a batter comes
to home plate with runners at 2nd or 3rd base (runners in scoring
position) and the batter at home hits either a bunt or a fly ball
knowing he will not be able to go safely to 1st base, but which allows a
runner to score.
I hope this glossary will help both teach a
little baseball and reassure you the the bunts feel no pain and are in
fact quite happy to be sacrificed for the team.
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Hi.
This should probably be under handwriting but, I am keeping the page open till my text is corrected.
Rudder broke on the Corwin and they rigged a jury rudder.
I cannot make out all the writing. Below is my attempt from this url.
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/USS%20Corwin/Corwin_1881/pics2%20264_1.jpg
(http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/USS%20Corwin/Corwin_1881/pics2%20264_1.jpg)
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Constructed
a jury rudder of two st~ booms & two swinging booms crossed with
pieces of oak plank, all ~ together with stout cross lashings. weighted
the lower edge with 600lbs ~, fitted it with 4 guys, two at each side,
got it overboard, passed the forward guys through the ~ and secures the;
lashed top gallents yard & strong back of waist boat davits across
tufpail? hao? ring laching bloaker? on outer ends; rove the after guys
through them & led them forward to steam windlass.
Can anyone correct this so I can edit and move on to the next page.
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I wonder, Bunts, if Kathy's glossary of baseball terms had been
influential in the choice of your forum name. In particular, I
noted the descriptors 'extremely shortened' and 'does not travel far' in
relation to 'sacrificial bunt'. Care to comment?
??? ;D
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Hi.
This should probably be under handwriting but, I am keeping the page open till my text is corrected.
Rudder broke on the Corwin and they rigged a jury rudder.
I cannot make out all the writing. Below is my attempt from this url.
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/USS%20Corwin/Corwin_1881/pics2%20264_1.jpg
(http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/USS%20Corwin/Corwin_1881/pics2%20264_1.jpg)
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Constructed
a jury rudder of two st~ booms & two swinging booms crossed with
pieces of oak plank, all ~ together with stout cross lashings. weighted
the lower edge with 600lbs ~, fitted it with 4 guys, two at each side,
got it overboard, passed the forward guys through the ~ and secures the;
lashed top gallents yard & strong back of waist boat davits across
tufpail? hao? ring laching bloaker? on outer ends; rove the after guys
through them & led them forward to steam windlass.
Can anyone correct this so I can edit and move on to the next page.
Here's the description of this incident from John Muir's book, The Cruise of the Corwin, Stuart.:
The
situation was sufficiently grave and exciting--dark weather, the wind
from the north and freshening every minute, and the vast polar pack
pushing steadily shoreward. It was a cold, bleak, stormy morning, with a
close, sweeping fall of snow, that encumbered the deck and ropes and
nearly blinded one when compelled to look to windward. Our twenty-five
dogs made an effective addition to the general uproar, howling as, only
Eskimo dogs can. They were in the way, of course, and were heartily
kicked hither and thither. The necessary orders, however, were being
promptly given and obeyed. As soon as the broken rudder was secured on
deck, four long spars were nailed and lashed firmly together, fastened
astern and weighted to keep them in place at the right depth in the
water. This made a capital jury-rudder. It was worked by ropes attached
on either side and to the steam windlass. The whole was brought into
complete working order in a few hours, nearly everybody rendering
service, notwithstanding the blinding storm and peril, as if jury-rudder
making under just these circumstances were an everyday employment.
Then, finding everything worked well, we made our escape from the
closing ice and set out for Plover Bay to repair the damage.http://www.sierraclub.org/john_muir_exhibit/writings/cruise_of_the_corwin/chapter_4.aspx
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Thanks Craig.
Did you enter the info into OW?
If not I would really like a verbatim transcript.
can anybody decipher the text. please.
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I made a start. :)
Constructed a jury rudder of two sterns'l [?] booms & two swinging booms crossed with pieces of oak plank, all secured together with stout cross lashings. Weighted the lower edge with 600lbs kentledge, fitted it with 4 guys, two at each side, got it overboard ...
I'll find Bunts.
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Hi Bunts ( :-*):
A glossary -
The
Nationals - Washington DC's baseball team. They are currently the
2nd best team in baseball, .001% behind the Cincinnati Reds.
Bryce
Harper - 19 year old phenom - a fantastic player, well on his way to
being the Wayne Rooney (but not badly behaved) of baseball.
Home
Run - a ball that is hit in such a way as to be uncatchable by the
opposite team before it hits the ground, thus allowing the hitter to run
thru 1st, 2nd, and 3rd base and back to home plate. A home run
can be an "in the park" one, which means the ball does not clear the
fence around the field, but the opposite team is unable to get the ball
back to home plate before the runner (hitter) gets around the
bases. This is a very rare type of hit. The other type of
home run is one where the ball is hit hard enough and with enough lift
to go over the fence around the baseball field.
Sacrifice Bunt
and Sacrifice Fly - these are 2 types of hits. A bunt is a ball
hit with an extremely shortened swing so that the ball hits the ground
and does not travel far from home plate. A fly ball is a hit that
goes extremely high in the air and is thus easily caught (the defense is
able to go to the spot where the ball will come down and catch it
before it hits the ground). Both hits are considered sacrifices
when a batter comes to home plate with runners at 2nd or 3rd base
(runners in scoring position) and the batter at home hits either a bunt
or a fly ball knowing he will not be able to go safely to 1st base, but
which allows a runner to score.
I hope this glossary will help
both teach a little baseball and reassure you the the bunts feel no pain
and are in fact quite happy to be sacrificed for the team.
Or
for us, a home run would be a 6. An in the park home run would be an
all run 6. A bunt would be a forward defensive or a tip and run. A fly
ball would be a top edge or skier. We dont have the concept of
sacrifice, except perhaps running to cross when there is an impending
catch, or the weaker player ensuring they go to the danger end when
there is an impending run out.
It is just a matter of translation!!!
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Well defined, Keith. My favourite cricketing term is the 'agricultural shot'.
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Well defined, Keith. My favourite cricketing term is the 'agricultural shot'.
AKA the howk to cow corner!!
Thanks Caro!!
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I made a start. :)
Constructed a jury rudder of two sterns'l [?] booms & two swinging booms crossed with pieces of oak plank, all secured together with stout cross lashings. Weighted the lower edge with 600lbs kentledge, fitted it with 4 guys, two at each side, got it overboard ...
I'll find Bunts.
(http://www.smileyvault.com/albums/userpics/12962/applause.gif)
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Thanks Caro.
From my mechanical background I thought it was a great piece of jury rigging.
I will have to note the date and when we can edit the pages change mine into a correct version.
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Thanks Craig.
Did you enter the info into OW?
If not I would really like a verbatim transcript.
can anybody decipher the text. please.
I
didn't enter that one, Stuart. I wasn't yet used to the interface and
saved it before I realized that it was very interesting. I marked it in
my Corwin Word document as one to revisit when they make it possible to
do so. But I won't bother now that you are doing it.
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Hi.
This should probably be under handwriting but, I am keeping the page open till my text is corrected.
Rudder broke on the Corwin and they rigged a jury rudder.
I cannot make out all the writing. Below is my attempt from this url.
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/USS%20Corwin/Corwin_1881/pics2%20264_1.jpg
(http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/USS%20Corwin/Corwin_1881/pics2%20264_1.jpg)
4 to 8
Constructed
a jury rudder of two st~ booms & two swinging booms crossed with
pieces of oak plank, all ~ together with stout cross lashings. weighted
the lower edge with 600lbs ~, fitted it with 4 guys, two at each side,
got it overboard, passed the forward guys through the ~ and secures the;
lashed top gallents yard & strong back of waist boat davits across
tufpail? hao? ring laching bloaker? on outer ends; rove the after guys
through them & led them forward to steam windlass.
Can anyone correct this so I can edit and move on to the next page.
Pommy:
Here's my best shot. I think I got most of it:
4 to 8
Constructed
a jury rudder of two stunsail booms & two swinging booms crossed
with pieces of oak plank, all screwed together with stout cross
lashings. weighted the lower edge with 600lbs ~, fitted it with 4 guys,
two at each side, got it overboard, passed the forward guys through the ~
and secured them; lashed top gallants yard & strong back of waist
boat davits across taffrail ring having leaching blocks on outer ends;
rove the after guys through them & led them forward to steam
windlass.
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Can I add to Pommy's reply pls?
'with 600lbs ~,'
looks like kindladge whatever kind of ballast that might be ((but
probably not the 'freak wife' of the Rodgers for those that spotted that
one ;D ;D))
'forward guys through the ~ and secured them;' looks like qr-chocks, so quarter-chocks perhaps?
J
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Caro got 600lbs kentledge - Pig iron used as permanent ballast.
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Caro got 600lbs kentledge - Pig iron used as permanent ballast.
Wow! impressive. a new word for my vocabulary. ;D
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G'day all. -2c here this morning but looks like a nice day coming.
I have gone with the combination of Caro and dmaschen.
The Manning made some changes to the Ships writer (A). Can I assume that he is the one writing the log book pages.
It's the only ship I have done that has made ref to that job.
Over, out and up today (I hope)
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Do you think it's a coincidence that the Rodger's "freak wife" and the Corwin's "kentledge" both weighed 600 lbs?
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Do you think it's a coincidence that the Rodger's "freak wife" and the Corwin's "kentledge" both weighed 600 lbs?
:D :D :D :D Hi Craig - that did wriggly uneasily through my mind as
well. But trying to match the wife with pig iron got me into all sorts
of bizarre possibilities! :-\ :-X ;)
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Good morning OW. Enjoy your Labor Day holiday US. :D
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Good evening Caro, good evening all.
Ditto on the Labor Day holiday good wishes, even if 'Labor Day holiday' is somewhat oxymoronic!
Being
retired, Lady Steeleye and I are not enamoured of public
holidays. Our favourite eateries get cluttered up by people who
really should be working!
;D
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For those amongst who have never really grown up, and still enjoy
making model ships, models from the period covered by OW are generally
distinguished by their absence. One of the few manufacturers who
does oblige is the Russian company 'Kombrig'. These resin models appear
to be high quality, although a little expensive If you worked on
logs from ships in the Dardanelles or from north Russia, you might have
come across the Russian cruiser Askold. She was seized by the British and renamed Glory IV
during the Russian Civil War. Kombrig have a model of the Askold, which
you can see at http://battleship-models.com/ru/10-russian-navy
(http://battleship-models.com/ru/10-russian-navy).
Have any OWers out there indulged in a Kombrig model? If so, how did you find the quality and was it worth the money?
???
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Happy Labor Day holidays to those of you on the western side of the Pond! ;D ;D ;D
Since OW is an addiction, and not work, I don't suppose our production levels will be affected.. ;D :-X ;D
Cheekily,
J
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Happy Labor Day holidays to those of you on the western side of the Pond! ;D ;D ;D
Since OW is an addiction, and not work, I don't suppose our production levels will be affected.. ;D :-X ;D
Cheekily,
J
Thanks, Joan. You're quite right - it's business pleasure as usual.
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Happy Labor Day holidays to those of you on the western side of the Pond! ;D ;D ;D
Since OW is an addiction, and not work, I don't suppose our production levels will be affected.. ;D :-X ;D
Cheekily,
J
Thanks, Joan. You're quite right - it's business pleasure as usual.
Caught in the act!! (http://www.desismileys.com/smileys/desismileys_6798.gif) (http://www.desismileys.com/)
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Happy Labor Day holidays to those of you on the western side of the Pond! ;D ;D ;D
Since OW is an addiction, and not work, I don't suppose our production levels will be affected.. ;D :-X ;D
Cheekily,
J
Thanks, Joan. You're quite right - it's business pleasure as usual.
Caught in the act!! (http://www.desismileys.com/smileys/desismileys_6798.gif) (http://www.desismileys.com/)
Me too. I really am going down to the Art Institute this afternoon, just to do something fun and different. :)
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We are having 9 of our neighbors over for dinner! We all have a day
'off' and rarely get to talk except over yard work - on the way to work -
etc. Everybody is bringing something and it should be great fun! ;D
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Admit it, Dean. You are planning to try to convert them to OW ;D
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Corwin.
At 7.15, stopped to secure ballast of jury rudder it having got adrift.
? how does 600lbs of Kentledge drift? ;)
I wish I could read the rest this scribes writing as it looked like an interesting day and I would if I could transcribe it.
Something about cutting up a boat anchor, found a wreck, and more problems with the rudder.
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/USS%20Corwin/Corwin_1881/pics2%20272_1.jpg
(http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/USS%20Corwin/Corwin_1881/pics2%20272_1.jpg)
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Jeepers Stuart! This is the worst type of writing - important
words squished out of shape in corners, enough to be readable as
interesting...but as good as indecipherable...YIKES!!!
Here's my best shot:
Calm, overcast + foggy. At 3.55 a.m. heavy incoming ~ vessel, got machinery + worked vessel to bell through it.
Light
variable airs, dense fog & snow. Working vessel to bell
through drift ice. Broke rim of the swinging booms in jury rudder.
At 7.15, stopped to secure ballast of jury rudder it having got adrift.
Light
airs from Nd & overcast. At 9.15 steamed a head inshore. At 10.40
anchored outside of shore ice outside of wreck of Schr. ?Polita?.
Comd. Officer went on shore. Sent boats crew to wreck for the purpose of
securing some material to repair ship?s rudder. Eng Dyst. &
Carpenter employed fitting pintails to rudder. Cut up ~main boat
anchor for middle pintal made two others of two ~ bar irons secured to
rudder with 1/4 ins iron straps. Bolted this rudder fast.
Light
breeze from Sd to nd & partially clear. Shipped rudder, had hole cut
in rudder below upper pintal, passed a lashing of 13/4 wire through it
& around ~steropost bringing the under ~infor
securing them on deck. Shipped & secured the tiller. Found the
rudder to work satisfactorily.
Weather as in previous watch. At
8, boats? crew returned from wreck. All hands employed unrigging jury
rudder, & transferring coal, the front forward deck to
gr.~deck.
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Here's my new naval joke...how many men does it take to rig a jury rudder? Twelve good men and true...
Oh well... I tried! ;D ;D ;D ;) ;)
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gr~deck is probably quarter deck.
and steropost has to be sternpost - the hand is so untidy - sigh!
It's Lolita not Polita that got wrecked.
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Corwin.
At 7.15, stopped to secure ballast of jury rudder it having got adrift.
? how does 600lbs of Kentledge drift? ;)
I wish I could read the rest this scribes writing as it looked like an interesting day and I would if I could transcribe it.
Something about cutting up a boat anchor, found a wreck, and more problems with the rudder.
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/USS%20Corwin/Corwin_1881/pics2%20272_1.jpg
(http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/USS%20Corwin/Corwin_1881/pics2%20272_1.jpg)
Read about it here http://www.sierraclub.org/john_muir_exhibit/writings/cruise_of_the_corwin/chapter_4.aspx
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Thanks
Joan and Craig.
Looks like an interesting voyage for the Corwin. :)
I had never heard of the ship before this.
Will look at the novel when I can.
Home situations must take first precedence.
Stuart.
(I will reserve my verdict on your joke Joan.) ;)
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Family comes first, always.
But that book is not a novel, it
is the journal of John Muir, describing your events of the broken rudder
from a passenger's POV in chapter 4. Although he doesn't watch
the much of the jury rigging process, as he was with the sled party that
spent time on land in the Chukchi village.
And I found a photo of the natives taken aboard Corwin
http://www.ebenhopson.com/apr/August%201982/PointHope.htm
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Ohhhh those Labrets look wicked.
A lot worse than modern piercings.
Thanks
Janet.
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A missing poster is unknown to the first episode of "Star Trek" ;) ;D
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(I will reserve my verdict on your joke Joan.) ;)
And
there was I hoping this would be the start of a glittering career as a
stand up comedienne....oh well - I'll keep the day job then ;)
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The Chukchi men look fierce could well be missing Startrek
aliens but John Muir praised them highly. He found them to be very
patient and good mannered. He did not have the prejudices against
natives as many whites of that time had. Muir was an exceptional
observer and his descriptions of the are detailed and entertaining. I
have posted a few excerpts here
http://forum.oldweather.org/index.php?topic=3002.msg50281#msg50281.
(I
got the jury pun, Joan, but I missed the "and true" allusion. Of
course, explaining it to me may ruin it, but I'll take the chance).
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Hi Craig,
My father was nothing if not a little old fashioned in
his language, and you'll also hear this phrase in some old movies
dealing with past times....here's the definition from phrases.org.uk. I
always understood the word 'true' to stand for 'honest' in this phrase.
Twelve good men and true
Meaning: A jury.
Origin:
When
this phrase was coined, in the early 17th century, 'good' implied
distinguished rank or valour. These days people aren't required to be
valiant or of high rank in order to be part of a jury. They aren't even
required to be men, as women have been called for jury in both the UK
and USA since around 1920. This was a consequence of the women's
suffrage movement. Prior to the 1920s the opponents of the movement were
appalled by the fact that, if women could vote, they could also sit on
juries. This was considered worse by some than the right to vote itself.
In 1915, the Massachusetts Anti-Suffrage Committee argued, "Jury duty
for your wife or your daughter is almost unthinkable. Yet it will be
part of her legal duty as a voter."
The 'twelve good men and
true' have been referred to since at least the 17th century; for
example, in Thomas Randolph's Poems: with The muses looking-glasse; and
Amyntas, circa 1635:
"I had rather... haue his twelve Godvathers, good men and true, contemne him to the Gallowes."
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Thanks, Joan. I remember the movie, 12 Angry Men, the title of which was probably a play on the older expression.
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Thanks, Joan. I remember the movie, 12 Angry Men, the title of which was probably a play on the older expression.
That's
the very one I was thinking of! I remember it now - Lee J Cobb and
Henry Fonda starred. Ahhh - the old super-atmospheric black and
white movies!
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Craig: Re 'converts' - isn't that the whole idea?! ;D
The object is to get THEM do do the US laogs and WE can get back
to the Brits who at least were SOMEWHAT readable! :D
Joan: Twelve
'men' - over on this side of the pond the women would haul you up on a
yardarm and/or keel haul you for not including them! :o
The
other part of that line says that it must be a 'jury of your peers...'
If I ever go to court I'm GUARANTEED SAFE. They can never FIND 12 people
as unbalanced as me! :D :D
Oh well - back to my addiction with OW! :)
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Thanks, Joan. I remember the movie, 12 Angry Men, the title of which was probably a play on the older expression.
That's
the very one I was thinking of! I remember it now - Lee J Cobb and
Henry Fonda starred. Ahhh - the old super-atmospheric black and
white movies!
With the cigarette smoke drifting through the projector light and the ladies walking up and down the isle selling lollies.
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Craig:
Re 'converts' - isn't that the whole idea?! ;D The object
is to get THEM do do the US laogs and WE can get back to the Brits who
at least were SOMEWHAT readable! :D
Joan: Twelve 'men' - over on
this side of the pond the women would haul you up on a yardarm and/or
keel haul you for not including them! :o
The other part of
that line says that it must be a 'jury of your peers...' If I ever go to
court I'm GUARANTEED SAFE. They can never FIND 12 people as unbalanced
as me! :D :D
Oh well - back to my addiction with OW! :)
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
I consider myself keel-hauled 8) ;D ;D
And well done for being safe Dean...a bit of a worrying reason I must say...but any port in a storm eh? ;D ;D ;D
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With the cigarette smoke drifting through the projector light and the ladies walking up and down the isle selling lollies.
Oh Stuart -what a flood of memories!
oh
yes...the days when you could see the film in the smoke, when there
were intermissions so you could queue for the loo only not to be able to
get there before the second half started, the 'chuching' as you
disturbed half a row to get sat down in your chair, the call of the
usherette when you went for icecream..."cornet or a tub, dear,
strawberry, chocolate, vanilla or I've got one neapolitan left (WHAT
ever happened to Neapolitan icecream????) and pots of Kia-ora juice,
what dju fancy?" Followed by the realization that you can't remember
where you left your parents (let's face it kids - we KNOW they shift
seats just to make you panic on the way back with the goodies). Ah yes -
I remember it well.... (enough of that Msr Maurice Chevalier!! - back
into your film-can now).
:D :D :D :D :D
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With the cigarette smoke drifting through the projector light and the ladies walking up and down the isle selling lollies.
Oh Stuart -what a flood of memories!
oh
yes...the days when you could see the film in the smoke, when there
were intermissions so you could queue for the loo only not to be able to
get there before the second half started, the 'chuching' as you
disturbed half a row to get sat down in your chair, the call of the
usherette when you went for icecream..."cornet or a tub, dear,
strawberry, chocolate, vanilla or I've got one neapolitan left (WHAT
ever happened to Neapolitan icecream????) and pots of Kia-ora juice,
what dju fancy?" Followed by the realization that you can't remember
where you left your parents (let's face it kids - we KNOW they shift
seats just to make you panic on the way back with the goodies). Ah yes -
I remember it well.... (enough of that Msr Maurice Chevalier!! - back
into your film-can now).
OH my YES!!! ;D
AND you could GET those eats for less than a 'promise of your first
born'! and they were big and DELICIOUS and.............. :'(
:D :D :D :D :D
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OH
my YES!!! ;D AND you could GET those eats for less than a
'promise of your first born'! (haven't heard that one in years.. :D :D)
and they were big and DELICIOUS and.............. :'(
You're right on all counts Dean! ;) ;)
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Report on the 45th Maritime History Conference.
Thursdaynext and I
attended the 45th Maritime History Conference at Exeter University on
the 1st of September. The conference was entitled "Maritime History
between Public and Academia: the challenges ahead." It was attended by
55 people mainly academics. Following is a quick summary of the
proceedings of the first day, concentrating of course on the
presentation by our leader Philip Brohan.
First on was Valerie
Burton from the Memorial University Newfoundland and Janet Dempsey of
the National Archives talking about the difficulties finding a home for
and providing public access to a huge source, the Crew agreements, which
seem to list all British Empire seamen taken aboard each merchant ship.
Relevant to Old Weather they may be looking for transcribers to
digitise some of their data.
Philip Brohan then spoke about our
project. He gave a lively and stimulating presentation, starting with
the climate change work, but then moving on to the historical stuff. He
showed some of his well known moving images including the ships going
all round the world and the movements of individual ships by day. He
referred to us, the transcribers, regularly and gave several instances
of what a daft bunch we are. He included Jenfurr's post from the
addictions thread about transcribing while having contractions and Su's
suggestion that the infant should be named Wonganella. He showed the
graphic with the rectangles showing how many transcriptions we have all
done. He concentrated on the history of HMS Invincible and mentioned her
role in the Battle of the Falklands. He showed Caro's picture of her
and pages from Invincible's edited history. He also showed Kathy W's
poem about the loss of the chocolate. A really well received and
stimulating presentation. I spotted lots of people noting down the web
address of old weather and even one chap checking our site on his
laptop, during another presentation, so we may have recruited a few
transcribers too. Philip ended with the famous scrolling list of us all.
Still havent spotted my own name!
We then heard from a Swede,
Lennart Bornmalm about the work at the University of Gothenburg
researching and presenting the history and decline of the Swedish North
Sea fishing fleet.
After coffee, Andrew Baines, curator of HMS
Victory gave us some indication of the problems that currently face her
and the estimated costs, probably totalling ?50-60 million that need to
be spent on her in the next 30 years. Sadly he had forgotten his
powerpoint presentation so we had no pictures of her. He talked about
the new trust and administration that will be responsible for looking
after her, and the balance between allowing access, making the vital
repairs and keeping her in a condition that people want to see her in.
Derek
James then talked about Gunsgreen House, a beautiful smugglers house in
Eyemouth, north of Berwick and the work that has been done there to
preserve it and its success as a community centre and how central it has
been in revitalising this run down town.
After lunch Rhian Tritton
of the SS Great Britain and two of her students talked about the
research work that is going on there, in concert with Bristol
University.
Harry Bennett of Plymouth University talked about his
role in providing the academic research to a private individual who has
just bought the Schnellboot S130. This is a WW2 German fast attack craft
and he has researched her history including finding the family that
built her and archive film of construction of Schnellboots, which will
be invaluable in restoring her.
After tea there were three talks on the ways in which funding for maritime research can be found.
I didnt attend the second day, but Su did, so I will leave her to mention the highlights.
If anyone has any questions or wants more details feel free to ask.
I
have a couple of photos of Su and I with Philip, so just as soon as I
get round to processing them to a size and shape that I can post here I
will post them for you all.
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Thanks Keith, it sounds a fascinating day, and good to know we were well represented.
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Very interesting, Keith. Thanks for your report.
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Just to add to Keith's excellent report on the Maritime History
Conference above, I also went on the second day (which was only half a
day) as it was so local to me. This consisted of two round table
discussions, the first on Education Strategies and the second on
Business Opportunities, with a panel of mainly academics in both cases -
I found it less interesting than the first day, though that may be
because I had reached the limit of my attention span after a long day on
the Saturday!
One additional highlight for me was that there
were some volumes from the Navy Records Society for sale at knock-down
prices - including "The Maritime Blockade of Germany in the Great War:
The Northern Patrol 1914-1918". It consists of the best part of
800 pages of transcripts of Admiralty reports and other documents
relating to the 10th Cruiser Squadron - a must for the serious
researcher into the Atlantic Patrol - and I daresay I'll find it useful
as well! ;D
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;D
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Thanks very much Keith and Su.
You and Philip did us proud, I have no doubt.
Looking forward to the pics. ;D
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....
transcripts of Admiralty reports and other documents relating to the
10th Cruiser Squadron - a must for the serious researcher into the
Atlantic Patrol - and I daresay I'll find it useful as well! ;D
You lucky thing! 8) 8) 8)
TVM for the report... :D
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Thanks Keith & Su, very interesting.
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Thanks for your kind comments.
If I have managed this
correctly I should have attached a copy of one of the photos taken of
Su, Philip Brohan and I at the Naval History Conference. I am on the
left!!!!
Note Su's wonderful Mantua T shirt.
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Wow! Great t-shirt Su. How nice to see you all. Thanks Keith.
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Nice shirt, and nice to have some faces to go with some of the people here!
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I agree Karijn ;D
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;D
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nice 8)
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Nice shirt, and nice to have some faces to go with some of the people here!
I
agree. It would be nice to have a place to post pics so we know whom we
work with. In the 'Introduce yourself' line??!! ;)
Thanks for the History Report of the conference!
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Nice shirt, and nice to have some faces to go with some of the people here!
I
agree. It would be nice to have a place to post pics so we know whom we
work with. In the 'Introduce yourself' line??!! ;)
Thanks for the History Report of the conference!
Try Introduce Yourself (http://forum.oldweather.org/index.php?topic=13.0). It hasn't been used since June this year. ;D
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I would be less inhibited if we had a private place to post to. I am
constantly aware of the fact that our comments here come up in Google
searches.
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I
would be less inhibited if we had a private place to post to. I am
constantly aware of the fact that our comments here come up in Google
searches.
I
agree. I thought before sending a pic and then got 'saved' because the
.jpg was too big for the FORUM post so I couldn't do it..
I DO like the idea if we can find a 'safe' place to post though.
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I use this program to resize my pics.
http://www.rw-designer.com/picture-resize
Download the file to the desktop.
Rename as per below.
Drop picture over the icon.
Done.
To change the size I edit the file name to
resizek62.exe for a 62kb file size.
resizek120.exe for a 120kb size.
See further down the site page for other filename changes.
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Good morning all.
Nice sunny morning here, eh Geoff? :D
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Morning OW and Caro - another sunny day down south, may get rain on Monday. Autumn is approaching at last :)
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Watery sun here in Oxford..and autumnal for sure...the house across
from home has a luscious crop of red apples which are now beginning to
drop. I think today will be perfect for scrumping crab apples from
the University Parks. It's the jelly and chutney season again. :)
:) :)
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Good morning, all. I woke up this morning to a ocr sky. I
hope we get a good soaking without anything too violent in the way of
flooding. :)
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Bear with me I've not had Sat TV for long.
Nat Geo Channel.
Titanic - Case closed by Tim Maltin.
Shows
how using ships weather logs he claims to have worked out how they did
not see the iceberg and why there signal light was not answered.
Refraction, scintillation, Labrador current and gulf stream, a high of 1035mb all played a part.
Very interesting.
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Hot and humid here >:( - where is fall?
When to the Nats game last night - great ball field, fun company, they LOST! to the stinking Marlins!
One the upside of things though, the Cowboys did beat the stinking Giants Wednesday! (woo hoo)
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In the last 24 hours we have received 2.35" of MUCH needed rain!!
Yesterday
when I went sailing the Lake had dropped almost a foot in the last 3
weeks! The International Joint Commission - responsible for Lake Ontario
level lists it as 10" below the 100 year average at this time.
Were
in shallow - doo doo if we don't get a snowy winter. As it is we
will likely be hauling boats at the end of this month due to the fact
that many are on the bottom in the harbour already.
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Saves on ramp fees to scrape the bottoms. ;D
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Hi Joan.
Your up late, been partying?
Good evening Janet.
Lovely day down under.
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And a good day to you, Stuart. It was a lovely day to be out today, for sure. And now a quiet evening. :)
Dean,
we also got a nice soaking from that storm yesterday. It seems to
be doing it's best to be making some repairs on the drought. But
we definitely need more.
From ABC7 News:
http://abclocal.go.com/wls/story?section=news/local&id=8800885
Sep.6, 2012
Lake
Michigan now is 23 inches below the long-term average, said Mark
Breederland, an extension educator for the Michigan Sea Grant. And lakes
Michigan and Huron are in the midst of a decade-long stretch of
below-average water levels, said hydrologist Keith Kompoltowicz at the
U.S. Army Corps of Engineers' Detroit District.
The corps has forecasted water-level ranges for Lake Michigan that may possibly break the record low, set in 1964.
"The
Great Lakes are dynamic, living ecosystems that change from one day to
the next," said Jennifer McKay, a policy specialist at the Tip of the
Mitt Watershed Council in Petoskey. She said that low water levels in
Lake Michigan "have been a concern for many years to many different
entities."
A
different article
(http://record-eagle.com/local/x85614680/Lake-levels-near-low-point)
thinks we have only until November to break that record. I'm
thinking the Canadian side of Huron may be largely missing the drought,
giving you a bit more water. That's scary, after what you said
about Erie's near-record low.
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Seem to have a second wind but am now just going to bed..glad it's Sunday tomorrow!
Too much fun editing the Acacia ::)
Hope you are well and that Sunday is good downunder :D :D
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Yes, editing is even more addictive than transcribing I found :).
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Isn't it just Karijn? ...also if you are very nosy you can
just trot through days of logs in minutes to find out exactly what
happened next in some drama. :D
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And it is even worse than transcribing for sending you off to Google
or similar to find out exactly where something is or how something fits
in. I feel I am broadening my education if nothing else. But my
housework is suffering even more than usual.
Doesn't it also leave you with unanswered questions though - why are they doing this, why have they stopped doing that etc?
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Yes, absolutely. And with the variety of log keepers we get,
it's never possible to know whether they've actually stopped or started
doing something, or whether it's just that this log keeper records
different things. ???
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And
it is even worse than transcribing for sending you off to Google or
similar to find out exactly where something is or how something fits in
True, too true!. I feel I am broadening my education if nothing
else. But my housework is suffering even more than usual. True, too true
also!
Doesn't it also leave you with unanswered questions though - why are they doing this, why have they stopped doing that etc?
Confession
- I am one of those creatures who HAS to read the end of the book first
- so this is an agony..so many endings...so many adventures in
between... ::) ;D ;D
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Oh yes, it often leaves me with more questions than answers. I'd
give a lot to be able to ask the ('my' ;)) men: what really happened on
this-or-that day? Guess we'll never know.
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Morning/afternoon/evening all.
Watching the para Olympic closing, some great equipment going round.
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Evening Stuart, good to see the night shift clocking on!
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It's 06 hrs here, 2 C and another nice day looming.
Question.
What happened to the Captain who climbed the mast at the Olympic closing. made a morning cuppa and he was never seen again.
Did you see the drummer backing up with Cold Play. He was great.
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I've got to say - the paralympics have taken my breath away - when I
was watching the racing this week I suddenly found that I wasn't
watching the paralympics - just excellent sport. I don't keep a regular
journal - but I did note that.
Yep - the drummer was great...no idea about your cuppa captain though ;D
Good morning by the way! ;D
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The double-amputee that managed to make to the semi-finals in the
original Olympics - how did he do? I simply forgot about it,
shamefully US broadcast TV doesn't give the para-olympics even headline
space in the evening news.
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I
wonder, Bunts, if Kathy's glossary of baseball terms had been
influential in the choice of your forum name. In particular, I
noted the descriptors 'extremely shortened' and 'does not travel far' in
relation to 'sacrificial bunt'. Care to comment?
??? ;D
After that masterly (mistressly?) exposition, I feel as though I've played the game all my life.
(Pulling
myself up to my full height: 5 ft 9) I maintain that when one's estate
is in a perfect location, there is no incentive to travel. Apart from
that, if I were to leave they may not let me back.
;D
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Good morning Randi, Geoff and Silvia, good morning all.
The
double-amputee that managed to make to the semi-finals in the original
Olympics - how did he do? I simply forgot about it, shamefully US
broadcast TV doesn't give the para-olympics even headline space in the
evening news.
Here's Oscar: http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/disability-sport/19533389
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Morning OW, a nice cool morning here after the weekend heat. Maybe get some rain later for my garden.
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Good morning everybody!
Weather here is (finally) perfect, and I got nothing but indoor chores and computer tasks to do today. Ah well...
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The
double-amputee that managed to make to the semi-finals in the original
Olympics - how did he do? I simply forgot about it, shamefully US
broadcast TV doesn't give the para-olympics even headline space in the
evening news.
Hi Janet,
He
did very well and rounded off the stadium running events by coming in
first-by-miles (well 3.6 seconds) to get a gold medal in the 400m for
his class. the crowd went beserk. I think they made more noise than the
Ussain Bolt double. I think Oscar got two silvers as well (100 and 200
m) - can't quite recall how the 4x400 relay worked out...I think
South Africa got the gold.
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Good evening shipmates,
Spring keeps having intermittent
attempts at making an appearance here. Last week was pretty vile,
whereas the last few days have been idyllic (apart from the
hayfever!). Makes me glad - as always - to be alive and part of
the OW community.
Enjoy the day, friends.
;D ;D ;D
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The
double-amputee that managed to make to the semi-finals in the original
Olympics - how did he do? I simply forgot about it, shamefully US
broadcast TV doesn't give the para-olympics even headline space in the
evening news.
Hi Janet,
He
did very well and rounded off the stadium running events by coming in
first-by-miles (well 3.6 seconds) to get a gold medal in the 400m for
his class. the crowd went beserk. I think they made more noise than the
Ussain Bolt double. I think Oscar got two silvers as well (100 and 200
m) - can't quite recall how the 4x400 relay worked out...I think
South Africa got the gold.
I'm
truly glad to hear that. He deserves serious awards for his
perseverance over the years of being seen as a runner first, rather than
an amputee who runs.
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Not quite our period but some may be interested to see this.
http://www.archaeology.co.uk/articles/news/solved-the-17-year-mystery-of-the-ship-under-the-floorboards.htm
It is an article from Current Archaeology, on the remains of a ship found at Chatham.
More about the history of the Namur here. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HMS_Namur_(1756).
I for one volunteer to transcribe her logs!!
K
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8)
me too!
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Fascinating! Thanks Keith.
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Morning Howard.
Hayfever seems to be an English thing. Thought I had got rid of it a few years ago, it's back this year.
G'Day to the rest of yous. ;D
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And a G'day to you too!
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and a gooo...a gooooo...a goooo...atishooo.day to you too. :-[
Sorry
to hear you are suffering Stuart - hope the hay-fever quietens down
soon :-*. Apple blossom sets me off, so you have my sympathy
(...but I don't complain when the crop comes in ;) ;))
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Morning Howard.
Hayfever seems to be an English thing. Thought I had got rid of it a few years ago, it's back this year.
G'Day to the rest of yous. ;D
Very
American also, including those of us with no English ancestry
whatsoever. Altho my own variation is tree pollen, not grass.
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Goog morning everyone
After a long leave at Rochefort I am
back. The French are now rebuilding Lafayette's ship the Hermione. She
is already in a flooded dock and they are preparing her for rigging her
masts and yards. Everything, from nails to sails, is hand made.
Her first voyage is planned for 2014 and she will sail to Boston in remembrance of Lafayette's voyage.
Unfortunately I have not found our how to post some pictures of that beautiful ship.
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Good morning Hansjorg. :)
Here are some links: http://www.discover-poitou-charentes.com/what-to-see/visit-the-hermione-at-rochefort.htm
http://www.hermione.com/en/the-hermione-project/the-history/
http://www.yacht-concept.fr/index.php?id_site=2&id_page=52
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Thanks Caro
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Goog morning everyone
After
a long leave at Rochefort I am back. The French are now rebuilding
Lafayette's ship the Hermione. She is already in a flooded dock and they
are preparing her for rigging her masts and yards. Everything, from
nails to sails, is hand made.
Her first voyage is planned for 2014 and she will sail to Boston in remembrance of Lafayette's voyage.
Unfortunately I have not found our how to post some pictures of that beautiful ship.
The guide for inserting/attaching figures is here: Posting Links and Images (A Guide) (http://forum.oldweather.org/index.php?topic=1073.0)
If
you want to insert directly from an article, be sure to isolate the
picture in jpeg form in its own tab - not always possible. You
have manually add captions and source in the post.
Hermione under constructions, from http://www.discover-poitou-charentes.com/what-to-see/visit-the-hermione-at-rochefort.htm
(http://www.discover-poitou-charentes.com/uploads/images/Hermione%20Reconstruction_rounded_corners.jpg)
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This week's BBC Radio 4 Book of the Week may be of interest as its
weather related, especially today's episode which mentioned Robert
Fitzroy introducing the first barometers to RN ships (with simple
instructions any Captain could understand!) and the start of the
classification of clouds.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b01mlss5
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Good broadcast, very interesting.
I also downloaded The weather Book by Fitzroy as mentioned in the broadcast from Google Books for free.
Looks like it may be interesting
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and a gooo...a gooooo...a goooo...atishooo.day to you too. :-[
Bless you!!!! ;)
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Morning OW, bright sunny day outside and I've just noticed that my
windows need cleaning, something else for my ToDo list :)
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Hello Geoff, hello OW. Sunny here too.
My windows are clean, on the outside. The window cleaners visited last week. ;)
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Dust is just a little extra insulation.
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Dust is just a little extra insulation.
I LIKE that! :D I'll have to remember when my wife reminds me of window cleaning duties! ;)
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These were the views through my dirty windows yesterday evening and this morning.
It's good to be alive.
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What a wonderful view you have!
Amazing clouds in the evening, and fantastic light in both - fresh in the morning and warm in the evening.
Erm- what IS that bird in the front garden bush..looks like it's got boots on?
J :D :D
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Bottom left is my mail box, just funny shadows.
We have Cockatoos that wear boots. See below. from web site http://www.ettamogah.com/kenmaynard.html
Will send real bird pics when they come back.
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Do all the birds go Stuart, or do you have a few winter die-hards?
We
get migratory swallows, house swifts and starlings during the
summer..and a few long term feathered friends - esp black birds.
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We still get winter birds, King parrots, cockatoos, rosella, galah,
Black galah (should see what they do to pine cones, when a sign in a pet
shop says don't put fingers in, they mean it), are the main birds
in my area. I have sometimes a male King parrot which sits on my hand
to feed. These birds are year round. We also have magpies which swoop in
the nesting season so you wear the hat backwards to fool them.
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Good morning OW.
Have you cleaned your windows yet Geoff? :)
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Morning OW and Caro. Windows still dirty, plan on attacking them later today if I get time from Zooniverse projects!
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Bottom left is my mail box, just funny shadows.
We have Cockatoos that wear boots. See below. from web site http://www.ettamogah.com/kenmaynard.html
Will send real bird pics when they come back.
Love the cartoons. - but Ettamogah beer? Is it as good as Boomalakanga premium dry red wine?
;D ;D ;D
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Good morning all. I hope we are all hale and hearty. Watch out Geoff
- looks like it will be sunny - and that can lead to leaving streaks as
you clean...well that's what dad used to say ;)
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HAPPY BIRTHDAY, RANDI!!!!
(https://www.t-mobilepictures.com/myalbum/thumbnail/photo04/b7/46/4a80603ae92a__1305653774000.jpg?tw=0&th=720&s=true&rs=false)
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Good
morning all. I hope we are all hale and hearty. Watch out Geoff - looks
like it will be sunny - and that can lead to leaving streaks as you
clean...well that's what dad used to say ;)
Not worth the risk! Sooner safe than sorry is what I would say ;) ;)
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Happy Birthday, Randi!
Hope your having a good day.
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Happy birthday, Randi.
May your voyage be smooth with light breezes at your back and the sun to light your way.
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Randi
Happy Birthday to you,
Happy Birthday to you,
Happy Birthday dear Raaaaaaaaaannnnnnnnnddddddddiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii,
Happy Birthday to you!
Hope it's a happy one and that you get lots of neat presents!
Hope also you get to share with family!
(http://www.desismileys.com/smileys/desismileys_0946.gif) (http://www.desismileys.com/)
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Happy birthday Randi!
(http://caccioppoli.com/Animated%20gifs/Birthday%20cake/0020.gif)
:-*
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HAPPY BIRTHDAY RANDI!
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Thank you!
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WOW! Have a really happy day - however you do that, randi
Best wishes,
Joan :-* :-*
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Happy Birthday, Randi!
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To Randi on Her 29th Birthday
I want to say Happy B-Day to Randi,
She really is rather quite handy.
She makes this less of a chore,
and is certainly never a boor.
All in all, we find you, well, dandy! :-* ;D
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Thank you all!
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Hello OW. A sunny Saturday here. Very acceptable. :)
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Today in Brighton, UK, the World Beard and Moustache Championships took place.
This gentleman appears to be wearing a galleon in his beard. The hat's not bad either. ;D
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/603350_10151067117308589_709911379_n.jpg)
Photo from Vegetarian Shoes.
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MM (http://i587.photobucket.com/albums/ss314/TTT_Savethemole/Emoticons/marilynsmiley.gif) -for You, Randi
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Today in Brighton, UK, the World Beard and Moustache Championships took place.
This gentleman appears to be wearing a galleon in his beard. The hat's not bad either. ;D
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/603350_10151067117308589_709911379_n.jpg)
Photo from Vegetarian Shoes.
Champion!
J ;D
(That hat - Looks like the sorting hat of Potter fame - the shorter brother of)
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Good evening shipmates,
A beautiful spring weekend here in
Canberra, although it looks like the weather is going in the shredder
here for most of the week.
If you're going to be in Canberra next
weekend ( ;D), come along to the Lifeline Spring Bookfair -
industrial-strength second-hand books (also, DVDs, CDs, games, puzzles,
and rare books). Have a look at the time-lapse video clip at
http://www.act.lifeline.org.au/Bookfair/lifeline-canberra-bookfairs
(http://www.act.lifeline.org.au/Bookfair/lifeline-canberra-bookfairs) to
see what you might be missing out on if you're a book lover. Lifeline
is a telephone counselling service staffed mainly by volunteers (albeit
highly trained). The twice-a-year Bookfair started about 30 years ago in
a van in a church car park and made about $1200. In its current
incarnation it uses a large exhibition pavillion and brings in about
$440K over a weekend, twice per year.
Enjoy your week to come.
:D
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OMG
I'd always though that some of the log
entries really needed the addition of the occasional exclamation. Now it
appears they could have used this modern txt speak.
From the marvelous QI - http://www.qi.com/this-weeks-qi
The
acronyms LOL (Laughs Out Loud) and OMG (Oh My God) made it into the OED
for the first time in 2011. While LOL appears to date back no further
than 1990 (in a UseNet group), OMG first appeared as long ago as 1917,
in a letter from Admiral of the Fleet John Arbuthnot ?Jacky? Fisher to
Winston Churchill. He wrote: ?I hear that a new order of Knighthood is
on the tapis ? O.M.G. (Oh! My God!) ? Shower it on the Admiralty!?
Another
word with surprisingly old roots is ?unfriend?. Awarded the OED ?s
?Word of the Year 2009? in fact it dates back to 1659 when Thomas Fuller
wrote to fellow theologian John Heylyn: ?I Hope, Sir, that we are not
mutually Un-friended by this Difference which hath happened betwixt us.?
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'Unfriend' sounds positively Pentagonesque ... the sort of word they
use to describe a foe just before they drop a plane-load of 'peaceful
purposes' on their heads.
:-*
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Well, at least it is better than 'friendly fire'.
:-[
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Morning Joan.
Sky's a bit upset here, it keeps grumbling and crying.
I hope it clears up otherwise I will have to cook my own tea instead of going out to the club.
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Good morning/afternoon Stuart and all.
Sunny, misty, cool in this neck of the woods.
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Morning to you, (16:36 here.)
Where you is?
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Surrey. Northern Hemisphere. :D
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Lovely area.
Have friends in Addlestone KT15 1NX
Will be (I hope) down south next year doing a train trip tour.
South and lower west coast railways, Portsmouth docks, then some Scottish railways and the Tattoo
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Bring us some of your lovely sun when you come to the tattoo.
This summer has been WET. You might also go over to the West Coast
and see if the Waverley (last ocean going paddleship) is still
running. A trip down the Kyles of Bute is well worth your time.
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Hi (insert name here)
A visit to the Waverley is planned for
21/08/13 and Dunoon and Rothesay together with Arran, Bute and Cumbrae
are mentioned but I do not know if they are on the Waverleys route or
not. any idea?
Tattoo 23/08.
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Weather looks like it holding off.
Of to the club for a meal.
CU LTR
I'm back, and the Corwin has now been finished by Craig and I.
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Morning Joan.
Sky's a bit upset here, it keeps grumbling and crying.
I hope it clears up otherwise I will have to cook my own tea instead of going out to the club.
Goooooood morning Australia!
Here
the sun shines, the cloud begins to cover, the dew is on the grass and
the apples are falling off the trees. And I nearly got the xmas pud made
yesterday. But as it's a 7 pounder & I left it a bit late (takes 3+
hours on the simmer) to get it done right through. Feeds 18.
Might get time to go scrumping for apples this week - in which case it's jelly making next weekend.
How are your spring flowers?
J ;D
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Weather looks like it holding off.
Of to the club for a meal.
CU LTR
I'm back, and the Corwin has now been finished by Craig and I.
Good
job, Stuart! If we had gone a bit faster perhaps the Corwin would have
arrived in time to rescue the Jeannette crew ;D
We plan to
go to the orchard on Friday with the grandchildren for our annual visit.
I hope there are still some apples left. We have had a long drought
here too and it's a bit late in the season. I used to make apple cider
and the apple juice was particularly sweet in dry years. I didn't even
have to add any corn sugar.
Needless to ask, you add a bit of rum to the pudding to keep it moist, Joan?
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Hi Craig..actually the family receipt (which is how recipes were
phrased by some in days of yore - and as it is written in my nana's fair
hand) - is barley wine. About a half pint goes into a 7 pounder. Given
they were a family from Deal in Kent, and close to the navy (my dad
served) it's always surprised me that it wasn't rum. The oldest
pudding we ever ate was 9 years old - it had got lost in the back of the
linen cupboard, wrapped in old woolen blankets when we swapped to
duvets, so lived probably at a very stable temperature. It was as
black as Newgate's knocker through and through and tasted beyond belief,
such a richness of flavour I can't tell you. It was a mere
youngster compared to the 15year old pickled onions that came to light
in the pantry when mum moved...and they were awesome.
Good luck with the apple pressing - as you say - should be intense and sweet juice this year! Do you ever make scrumpy?
J :D
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Sounds scrumptious, Joan. We tried making a Xmas pudding one year.
We never seem to think about in time. Neither do I continue with the
apple cider. I did this for about 10 years or so but all good things
come to an end. We go to the orchard to let the kids pick apples and run
around the corn mase (not maize) I can no longer keep up with
them ;D. I don't know about scrumpy.
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Scrumpy cider - it's just a very rough form of cider - only the
natural yeast on the apples is used. It's usually cloudy and shimmers
and odd sort of greeny/yellow. It's not unknown to have the odd bit of
apple left in it. Finest drink for sinking a piece of farmhouse cheddar
with a nice chunk of fresh bread. Very tasty - very strong...those that
drink it probably don't know it either - since they are rapidly
insensible. :P - hick!
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I make Christmas puddings (plural) at the end of October, using copious amounts of rum.
On Christmas day, I ignite more rum and pour over the pudding to serve. Yummy. :D
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Sounds as if you are on the right cruise. Basically you used
pick up the Waverley in Glasgow, sail down the Clyde past the sites of
the old shipyards (2 are still working Govan & Scotstown) and there
is a small one by Newark Castle as well. You can see the bulk of
Dumbarton Rock with its castle then it sounds as if you are turning
north to Dunoon, crossing over to Rothesay on the Isle of Bute (another
castle just about visible) and with any luck going round Bute and going
to Tighnabruaich in the Kyles, the views are lovely. You will pass
Cumbrae as you leave the river and they may have changed the route to
call there rather than Largs.
It sounds good and if I am at home I
may organise myself to give you a wave off the Erskine bridge.
The Waverley does different routes on different days of the week so I
would need to look it up when next year's timetable is released to find
out which one is on offer on that day. The one to Tighnabruaich is
definitely the one I would go for given the choice.
You used to
be able to visit the engines, magnificent beasts and quite
hypnotic. Hope the weather is at least dry with any clouds above
the tops.
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I make Christmas puddings (plural) at the end of October, using copious amounts of rum.
On Christmas day, I ignite more rum and pour over the pudding to serve. Yummy. :D
Sounds
fab, feet up and snooze after that I suppose? ;D (- hick, oopsie,
'scuse me) Lucky recipients of your Christmas puds plural!
I
remember the first time that my friends' kids were old enough to really
notice the flaming of the pud - they thought it was great - 'will Joan
do that burning pudding thing again?' Oh yes..except that two years back
her hand slightly wobbled and an excess of brandy hit the pud, the
match - lit - went in, and there was a distinct 'woof' sound. We all
gathered around to blow it out as the pud singed merrily in its dish...
;D ;D (well *I* liked the crispy bits). :D :D
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;D ;D
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Sounds
as if you are on the right cruise. Basically you used pick up the
Waverley in Glasgow, sail down the Clyde past the sites of the old
shipyards (2 are still working Govan & Scotstown) and there is a
small one by Newark Castle as well. You can see the bulk of
Dumbarton Rock with its castle then it sounds as if you are turning
north to Dunoon, crossing over to Rothesay on the Isle of Bute (another
castle just about visible) and with any luck going round Bute and going
to Tighnabruaich in the Kyles, the views are lovely. You will pass
Cumbrae as you leave the river and they may have changed the route to
call there rather than Largs.
It sounds good and if I am at home I
may organise myself to give you a wave off the Erskine bridge.
The Waverley does different routes on different days of the week so I
would need to look it up when next year's timetable is released to find
out which one is on offer on that day. The one to Tighnabruaich is
definitely the one I would go for given the choice.
You used to
be able to visit the engines, magnificent beasts and quite
hypnotic. Hope the weather is at least dry with any clouds above
the tops.
Looking
forward to it. It should be a change from the narrow boat trip we did
from Falkirk to Glasgow and back to Edinburgh via the wheel.
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Does anyone know where to find that 'Voyages' thing that shows the boats moving about please?
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Here's the link, Joan - enjoy them!
http://old.oldweather.org/voyages?ship=M.31. It always brings up M31 but there's a drop down menu to choose other ships.
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Thanks Helenj!
J :) :)
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ooo- that was fun! ;D
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I've been wondering for some time about payments to sailors. They
get paid monthly - but how do they get the money back to their families?
And what do they spend it on other than a bit of baccy, a bottle of
beer, and the odd tin of 'herrings in'. The entry from the Acacia for
July 1915's payday says:
Scapa Flow, Gutter Sound
11.30am Monthly payment of hands
2.30pm ? 6.00pm Leave to hands
And
I just wonder what sort of a place Scapa Flow became when many jolly
tars got their pay and set off to spend it on the local delights?
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I asked that same question some time back - I would never be able to
find dorbel's answer again because I don't know what search term you
could reasonably use. Anyway, he said that they were able to
arrange for a proportion of their wages to go direct to their
families. I also used to worry about destitute wives and children
because their husband/father had spent it all on booze and brothels!
I
think we can probably make a fair guess as to what Scapa Flow was like
when any of the ships got into port and/or had just been paid - though I
guess it didn't have as much to offer in the first place as Glasgow or
Liverpool (though more than Busta Voe which didn't have much more than a
tea room apparently!)
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Thanks Thursday next - that's a comfort to know. I suppose it must have been the hay-day for the Busta Voe tearooms!
Joan :D
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Perhaps this is what you are thinking of?
Thursday, remembering this is in the days before the widespread use of bank accounts.
I
think the way it used to work for married personnel (and also families
of single men if they wanted), was for the serviceman to decide on an
allocation of his pay. Part was available for him to draw on
locally and the balance was available to a nominated person at his home
port.
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That's exactly what I was thinking of! (Hope it
didn't take too long to find!) And credit for the answer must go
to Haywain rather than dorbel. (Sorry, Paul!)
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At my voyage time on the Bear we are off to Disco island. Party time.
What ever shall I wear? ;D
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;D
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At my voyage time on the Bear we are off to Disco island. Party time.
What ever shall I wear? ;D
Your sartorial needs are our concern, Sir...
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Nice one Joan.
Your tip cane just in time, we have just arrived. Looks like a cold place 22f.
Just noticed the smiley is not animation, (imagine it clapping. )
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You're welcome anytime Stuart :D
Yeh - I've not cracked
those .gif smileys yet. If you left click over yours it comes to life. I
haven't worked out how you get them to just do it...if anyone can help -
please do! - and cheers for that ;D ;D
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(http://www.desismileys.com/smileys/desismileys_2593.gif)
"Quote" this message to see the code.
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Don't understand? "Quote" this message to see the code.
Funny you should show fireworks, we (on the Bear) just had fun with Gunpowder.
"8AM
to merid. Laying stranded in ice in Gohhaun harbor. Experimented with
8lb gunpowder torpedo in blowing up ice in harbour for docking ship.
Explosin made only a small hole 8ft in diameter purely local effect."
We use 28lb in merid to 4pm shift.
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/USS%20Bear/BEAR_001_jpgs/b001of002_0065_1.jpg
(http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/USS%20Bear/BEAR_001_jpgs/b001of002_0065_1.jpg)
Gohhaun
has looked like Godham to me in the logs until this page, now it reads
Godhavn, which I have just found IS a place in Greenland, opps, a lot of
editing back pages to come..
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(http://www.desismileys.com/smileys/desismileys_2593.gif)
"Quote" this message to see the code.
OK I see now, I used the image from my PC not a web site.
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I thought there would be a roar of approval to the news that we can
now type quotation marks, rather than having to insert the data the
quote is referring to ???
http://forum.oldweather.org/index.php?topic=3191.msg51628#msg51628
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Everyone's busy editing mostly, but thanks for letting us know you
noticed. That doc was a lot of work for Randi to put together, but
being able to quote it for the next year to newbies makes it worth the
do. :)
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Could one of the Mods make a copy in the tech support Fixes that have been fixed section please. Ta.
I
thought there would be a roar of approval to the news that we can now
type quotation marks, rather than having to insert the data the quote is
referring to ???
http://forum.oldweather.org/index.php?topic=3191.msg51628#msg51628
I am VERY HAPPY.
Thanks Philip.
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Could one of the Mods make a copy in the tech support Fixes that have been fixed section please. Ta.
I
thought there would be a roar of approval to the news that we can now
type quotation marks, rather than having to insert the data the quote is
referring to ???
http://forum.oldweather.org/index.php?topic=3191.msg51628#msg51628
I am HAPPY.
Thanks.
We probably will, once they start fixing stuff. Today, that thread is empty.
And thanks for the thanks! :)
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I thought the ditto fix was the best yet. ???
Just finished my first page of " 's , so easy. :)
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I'm sure I put a big yeeeha in a thread. It is a truly huge step forward! :-* :-* :-*
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(http://animationsa2z.com/attachments/Image/thankyou/thankyou5.gif)
YOU ARE WONDERFUL PHILIP AND WE LOVE WHAT YOU DID WITH THE DITTOS
THANK YOU!
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Philip, as you can see, we are easy to please. ;D
There are now some pages from the Bear for you to test your ditto changes with.
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Morning/Afternoon/Evening all.
Just back from the free breakfast in Corbett Gardens for 'Tulip Time'
Now back to OW.
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Thank you, that's a piece of life becoming. I needed that.
It's
been such a dry summer, no one knows how soon the trees will turn
here. But they usually do in stages around Chicagoland, different
species in different weeks. We rarely get a single burst of
color. I'm not sure if there will be any comparable fall pictures
to post from here.
I may try to get a lift up to the Chicago
Botanical Gardens before they shut their railroad garden down.
That is always a treat, however dried out the rest is. :)
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quote
I may try to get a lift up to the Chicago Botanical Gardens
before they shut their railroad garden down. That is always a
treat, however dried out the rest is.
end quote.
Take a break and enjoy life (and the gardens), you never know when life will bite you.
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That is true. and those gardens are spectacular.
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Bear
Wind Dir = NExN1/4N
That is very precise.
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Guess they are not using the lick-your-finger technique then ;) ;D ;D
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Loved this juxta-position of events - the cutlass and the wireless....what changing times they lived in....
From the Acacia, 1st August 1915
9.30am Landing parties drilled in rifle and cutlass service
11.30am Press wireless news received from HMS Columbella
:D
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How about: "1:30 PM, texted wife and kids" ;D
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;D ;D ;D
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I watched history being made last night - the Nats are in the
playoffs. There will be baseball in October in Washington for the
first time in 79 years.
Also, my poor Cowboys - Seattle just beat them up...
Hope everyone is having a nice weekend - the weather here has been great lately.
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The weather forecast for central S England is 'sunny' Saturday
'Raining stair rods' for Sunday..we'll see what happens - but I think
that an early start to get the washing out is on the books for
tomorrow. :D
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Autumn is definitely in the air but we aren't due to get the heavy
rain until late Monday (just as well, Prestwick Airport is just
recovering from a flash flooded runway). Some of the trees are
starting to turn but a day or two of sun will lift the spirits.
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It would be nice to get a good leaf turn this year...we've got a few
trees that are just turning. Last year it looked good, then petered out
as the weather warmed through October to November. :(
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Morning OW - grey and wet here. I'm not giving up my OW stuff
(far too addicted!) but I'm going to have less time as from tomorrow,
when I start a year as a full time student. Save some US ships for
me please ....
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Good luck with the course, hope you'll drop into the forum every now and then.
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Did you sign up for that OW PhD project that Philip told us about a
while ago, helenj? That would be a sign of your addiction to OW :D
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:'(
I hope you enjoy it! What will you be studying?
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Craig - no, not qualified I'm afraid. My scientific education stopped pretty early!
Randi
- I'm studying for ordination as a priest, so it will be theology,
biblical studies, pastoral work and no doubt sundry other things I don't
know about yet! So far all I know is that we start our induction
tomorrow, and no doubt everything else will be revealed some time fairly
soon. It's been about 30 years since I first started wondering
whether this might be something I was called to, so it's been a long
long journey to reach this point.
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Neat!
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Craig - no, not qualified I'm afraid. My scientific education stopped pretty early!
Randi
- I'm studying for ordination as a priest, so it will be theology,
biblical studies, pastoral work and no doubt sundry other things I don't
know about yet! So far all I know is that we start our induction
tomorrow, and no doubt everything else will be revealed some time fairly
soon. It's been about 30 years since I first started wondering
whether this might be something I was called to, so it's been a long
long journey to reach this point.
Good luck with your studies, Helen! Hope it all goes well.
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Craig - no, not qualified I'm afraid. My scientific education stopped pretty early!
Randi
- I'm studying for ordination as a priest, so it will be theology,
biblical studies, pastoral work and no doubt sundry other things I don't
know about yet! So far all I know is that we start our induction
tomorrow, and no doubt everything else will be revealed some time fairly
soon. It's been about 30 years since I first started wondering
whether this might be something I was called to, so it's been a long
long journey to reach this point.
Indeed, best of luck with it Helen.
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Craig - no, not qualified I'm afraid. My scientific education stopped pretty early!
Randi
- I'm studying for ordination as a priest, so it will be theology,
biblical studies, pastoral work and no doubt sundry other things I don't
know about yet! So far all I know is that we start our induction
tomorrow, and no doubt everything else will be revealed some time fairly
soon. It's been about 30 years since I first started wondering
whether this might be something I was called to, so it's been a long
long journey to reach this point.
You'll make a wonderful priest. Good luck with the studying! :)
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Hi Kathy
Enjoy the voyage (Journey) and post up a few log pages when you reach your goals.
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That is very cool, I wish you a lot of fun and insights. Kudos for
going back to school after 30 years. Having just finished I can't
imagine ever wanting to start again, but secretly I hope I'll be smart
enough to go for another degree later in life like you do now- though I
doubt it will be priesthood ;D
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Let us know when we can attend Divine Services :)
I'm hoping the PTB decide OW needs a PhD in History - I would certainly love to do that! ;D
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Good morning OW. Good luck with the studies Helen!
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Helen, Hope the induction day is going/went well. Best wishes for your future studies!
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Thanks everyone, for your messages and good wishes. Just
having a last look at the forum before packing up the laptop and then
it's off (in torrential rain - definitely R) to the other side of Oxford
and into the unknown!
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Keep us posted!
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Good evening Shipmates ... and a happy life voyage Helen. I
trust that you'll have time to come and play with the ships from time to
time.
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Have any OWers read the book 'The Great Influenza' by John M. Barry
and, if so, what did you think of it? I picked up a copy at the
local 'Lifeline Book Fair' at the weekend and I've just started
it. With ~40 pages of endnotes and a selected bibliography of ~20
pages, it looks like it will have some real meat in its pages. Isn't it
interesting how history focuses on the carnage of WWI, while the
Spanish/Kansas flu, which killed several times as many people in about a
quarter of the time is mostly little more than an historical footnote.
???
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I'm wondering, because at the time the Influenza was absolutely top
news. And everything I've heard and read of the influenza pops up
much more often than WWI, so its echos into our time are definitely
strong. Some of that is that US wasn't involved that long in the
war. But I'm wondering if the rest of it isn't that war destroys
much more than lives.
Who the influenza killed devastated their
families at the loss. But it did not destroy the families' homes,
towns and livelihoods. Repairing the damage of the Great Influenza
meant rearranging society so that someone took on the jobs, etc, done
by the dead and society moved on within the year, only in a different
shape. Surviving farmers went out into the fields to harvest what
was planted before the influenza came through, and surviving town folk
never even thought about how to find food to feed themselves.
For
the lands that housed the battles of WWI, society was also physically
torn and damaged and in some ways killed. The surviving farmers
could not just return to the fields to harvest what they planted before
the battle. Which also destroyed the food supplies needed to feed
the town folk. Society took years longer to knit itself together
into a new shape.
Just my personal theory.
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Interesting thoughts, Janet.
I confess that I had not thought
(or read) much about the Spanish Flu until I worked on the logs of HMS
Glory in Murmansk in 1918-19. The history books dealing with WWI and its
aftermath often refer to the gutting of the cream of a generation in
the fighting - particularly in France, Germany and Britain - and the
impact this had on the progress of those nations in the 1920s and
later. The Spanish Flu was unusual in that its major impact was on
exactly the same demographic - people entering a highly productive
pahse of their lives. The world society really had to cope with a
simultaneous double blow . I suppose therefore it is no great
surprise that the inter-war years were such a time of flux and extreme
views in society.
:(
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That isn't the vibe I got from the American POV. Yes, a
generation was gutted, but they found the spread of the flu as a cause
of that gutting to be a little more appalling. You expect to see
death in war, the influenza going through the troops blindsided everyone
getting involved.
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God's blessing upon you and yours as you 'sail off' into His service! :)
Please stop by now and again and let us know how you do. We'll keep you in our thoughts and prayers. :-*
P.S. Keep a 'log' for those around in 100 years!!! ;)
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Weird foam caused by storms near Aberdeen :o
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-19719008
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God's blessing upon you and yours as you 'sail off' into His service! :)
Please stop by now and again and let us know how you do. We'll keep you in our thoughts and prayers. :-*
P.S. Keep a 'log' for those around in 100 years!!! ;)
Thanks
Dean, just coming to the end of my first very busy day - lots of
introductions to things. Rest of the week will be much the same I
think. Next week we start the actual studying!
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Weird foam caused by storms near Aberdeen :o
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-19719008
I know Footdee..wow!!! that's dramatic alright! :o :o :o
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Strange sights in Footdee! Cute doggie too.
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One for you Caro.
http://vilda.alaska.edu/cdm/singleitem/collection/cdmg11/id/9710/rec/5
(http://vilda.alaska.edu/cdm/singleitem/collection/cdmg11/id/9710/rec/5)
Don't know if it is the same Bear we are working on.
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It's Garfield's great great great great grand-dad by the looks of it...
What a fab photo!
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I can hear him right now: "This is MY ship, and they wouldn't dare make noise with my perch while I am on it!"
;D
I went searching for an appropriate cat-boss companion and found this:
(http://www.funnywallphotos.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/cat-boss.jpg)
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One for you Caro.
http://vilda.alaska.edu/cdm/singleitem/collection/cdmg11/id/9710/rec/5
(http://vilda.alaska.edu/cdm/singleitem/collection/cdmg11/id/9710/rec/5)
Don't know if it is the same Bear we are working on.
Thanks Stuart! Gotta love those ships' cats. :D
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Todays OW is brought to you from Beechworth, Victoria, Down Underland.
;D
I hope the attachments work now.
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test message
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Test message received. I've been to Beechworth.
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Todays OW is brought to you from Beechworth, Victoria, Down Underland.
;D
Exotic! ;D ;D ;D
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Yesterdays OW was brought to you from Bendigo. Victoria.
Home of the British and American Hotel (with a bit of Chinese and Australian thrown in for good measure.)
Glad the attachments are working again.
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Very eclectic! :)
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Check out the coordinates of the HMAS Otway a full size Oberon class submarine 35? 41′ 59.57″ S, 147? 18′ 59.78″ E
Me in the blue overalls, drilling for Gold in Bendigo. Missed the gold seam by " that much. %^(
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Check out the coordinates of the HMAS Otway a full size Oberon class submarine 35? 41′ 59.57″ S, 147? 18′ 59.78″ E
Me in the blue overalls, drilling for Gold in Bendigo. Missed the gold seam by " that much. %^(
Ummm.
Your co-ordinates are somewhere just off South Africa...but the picture
seems not to show the Atlantic..curious! On the whole that
sub seems to be missing a lot of water - that must have been an
impressive road trip! Shame about the gold nugget, you'll have to
go back and try again sometime!
J ;)
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Check out the coordinates of the HMAS Otway a full size Oberon class submarine 35? 41′ 59.57″ S, 147? 18′ 59.78″ E
Me in the blue overalls, drilling for Gold in Bendigo. Missed the gold seam by " that much. %^(
Ummm.
Your co-ordinates are somewhere just off South Africa...but the picture
seems not to show the Atlantic..curious! On the whole that
sub seems to be missing a lot of water - that must have been an
impressive road trip! Shame about the gold nugget, you'll have to
go back and try again sometime!
J ;)
Double check Joan ;) Looks like New South Wales to me.
I think you used 47 rather than 147 :-\
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Check out the coordinates of the HMAS Otway a full size Oberon class submarine 35? 41′ 59.57″ S, 147? 18′ 59.78″ E
Me in the blue overalls, drilling for Gold in Bendigo. Missed the gold seam by " that much. %^(
Ummm.
Your co-ordinates are somewhere just off South Africa...but the picture
seems not to show the Atlantic..curious! On the whole that
sub seems to be missing a lot of water - that must have been an
impressive road trip! Shame about the gold nugget, you'll have to
go back and try again sometime!
J ;)
Double check Joan ;) Looks like New South Wales to me
My
Google map gives them as -35.71834, 147.31753, right in the middle of
the town of Holbrook on Hume Hwy. His minute seconds were only
about 3.8km off. By close up satelite view, the sub's shadow is
very distinct. ;D
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Hmmm - Joan must have one of those new i-phone 5 thingies ...
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35 43 6 S, 147 19 1E
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I wonder if anyone finds nuggets in that played out mine - they have
to really be there, just too rare to be economical. :)
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Unexpected uses of OW; this week at college, as part of our
induction week, we had to do an exercise about something we'd learned
recently, and what had helped us to learn it. So I talked about
learning about the RN in WW1, and also various computer things I hadn't
known how to do before. And how much the forum had been an
important part of that learning, and given me over time a sense of
responsibility to the project which kept me going when things were
difficult (Patuca and Grafton, are you listening?).
So, thank you all for giving me something interesting to talk about!
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The OW fleet is responsible for educating a whole lot of us, in a very fun way. ;D
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I look forward to a transcript of one of your sermons - full of
nautical references to anchors, storms, calm, pilots etc, etc.
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OW has doubled or tripled my knowledge of internet stuff!
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Necessity is a great teacher, as well as the mother of invention!
And
I will of course be trying to work in nautical references in as many
things as possible - sermons, essays. Though as one of the major
events of next week is going to be starting to learn biblical Hebrew
that may be a bit tricky there, as they were very definitely not
nautically minded and I suspect the seagoing vocabulary is distinctly
limited .... ;D
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Hmmmm...watch out for a chap called Noah - he may be able to help ;)
GOOD LUCK with the linguistics!
J :D
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Necessity is a great teacher, as well as the mother of invention!
And
I will of course be trying to work in nautical references in as many
things as possible - sermons, essays. Though as one of the major
events of next week is going to be starting to learn biblical Hebrew
that may be a bit tricky there, as they were very definitely not
nautically minded and I suspect the seagoing vocabulary is distinctly
limited .... ;D
Think what a learning experience it would be to translate the Misc. Events into biblical Hebrew ;D
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Well, I've just started Coptic and I gather that next term we will
be tackling some bits of the gospels and the non-canonical christian
texts so we can struggle on together. I did, a year or two ago,
learn the hieroglyphs for sail, anchor and oar as well. You never
know when this esoteric knowledge will come in useful!!
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Watch those Hebrew folks. I believe I learned that they read from starboard to port!! ;)
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They must have known that green is go and red is stop ;) ;D
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They also have an antipathy to writing their vowels which should make for ntrst s wll
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Yes, reading from the 'wrong' end of the line, and learning a whole
new alphabet are just some of the joys which await! I think it may
be a little while before I'm translating anything at all, let alone
some of the more esoteric bits of the Misc. events ....
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Yes,
reading from the 'wrong' end of the line, and learning a whole new
alphabet are just some of the joys which await! I think it may be a
little while before I'm translating anything at all, let alone some of
the more esoteric bits of the Misc. events ....
Watch those 'esoteric bits' they tend to get stuck in your teeth!! ;)
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Yes,
reading from the 'wrong' end of the line, and learning a whole new
alphabet are just some of the joys which await! I think it may be a
little while before I'm translating anything at all, let alone some of
the more esoteric bits of the Misc. events ....
Watch those 'esoteric bits' they tend to get stuck in your teeth!! ;)
;D ;D ;D
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Good morning OW. Apparently it's October already. :D
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Morning OW, October and raining! Good for my garden though :)
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Morning all.
The mysterious Bunting Tosser has paid us a visit I see.
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;D
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A lovely morning (& day) in Natimuk, Victoria, AU.
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;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Morning all.
The mysterious Bunting Tosser has paid us a visit I see.
"They seek him here; they seek him there ..."
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We OWers seek him everywhere! ;D
Tis a bitter sweet day my friends...
The Nationals won the National East Division!! :o (didn't expect this good a team until next year!)
The Cowboys got spanked by the Bears last night - it was just awful to watch.
It is a good thing I'm not a drinkin' woman.
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We OWers seek him everywhere! ;D
Tis a bitter sweet day my friends...
The Nationals won the National East Division!! :o (didn't expect this good a team until next year!)
The Cowboys got spanked by the Bears last night - it was just awful to watch.
It is a good thing I'm not a drinkin' woman.
Perhaps a consoling chocolate or three might be called for?
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A lovely morning (& day) in Natimuk, Victoria, AU.
Gorgeous - loved the fresh early morning mist -so pretty. :-* :-* :-*
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Morning all.
The mysterious Bunting Tosser has paid us a visit I see.
"They seek him here; they seek him there ..."
Bunts - fab to see you again!! ;D ;D :-*
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The pictures are VERY nice! :o
I have been consoling myself with malted milk balls - one of my favorites ;D :P
It seems to be a Bunt & run situation :P
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Hi Kathy,
Curious about malted milk balls I looked them up - UK
Ebay is selling a 5Kg bag for ?45...I hope the season won't go that
badly! :'( :-\
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I certainly hope it does not!!!!
I can get these little beauties for 5 oz/ $1.00
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The Cowboys got spanked by the Bears last night - it was just awful to watch.
It is a good thing I'm not a drinkin' woman.
Gotta feel for those who don't drink. To get up in the morning and know you'll feel that bad all day!!!!! ::)
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The Cowboys got spanked by the Bears last night - it was just awful to watch.
It is a good thing I'm not a drinkin' woman.
Gotta feel for those who don't drink. To get up in the morning and know you'll feel that bad all day!!!!! ::)
That depends on whether or not you are from Chicago. ;D
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yeah, yeah...pppfffflll
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Good morning OW.
That's all I'm saying. :-X :)
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Good Moro to you in Up Over land (and elsewhere)
OK I'll change the subject.
Can anybody tell me why Bear Records 'Course Steered' when they are at anchor in St Johns.
They have been doing it for a few pages. ex
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/USS%20Bear/BEAR_001_jpgs/b001of002_0132_0.jpg
(http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/USS%20Bear/BEAR_001_jpgs/b001of002_0132_0.jpg)
They have also dropped the temps on this one with no mention why on the misc page.
The misc page makes interesting reading also
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/USS%20Bear/BEAR_001_jpgs/b001of002_0132_1.jpg
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A little too much celebration of their sucess? ;)
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Wotcha Down-underling,
Well a few days before they were seeing blue sky under 'OC' conditions:
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/USS%20Bear/BEAR_001_jpgs/b001of002_0130_0.jpg
I'm backing Jil on this one!
Could certainly do with this info going into the Bear Form page area!
J ;D
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If I read it correctly, one of them got a $10 bounty for rounding up
some strays. I bet he was popular with the crew after that.
I am
now doing the Thetis and I feel like the horse that has been doing the
same milk run for 30 years and now they added a new customer. I can't
break the habit of tabbing twice after the air pressure.
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I know what you mean ;D
I was doing a sample transcription and I automatically expanded the dittos. I had to go back and put the dittos in!
I
had the air pressure thing with one of the RN ships. By the time i got
used to it, I went back to a ship with a mercury barometer ::)
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I would love to purchase a mercurial barometer but you just cannot get them in Australia.
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I would love to purchase a mercurial barometer but you just cannot get them in Australia.
:'( :'( why ever not?
How was the rest of you 'Victorian' break? Hope it was relaxing.
J ;)
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I would love to purchase a mercurial barometer but you just cannot get them in Australia.
:'( :'( why ever not?
How was the rest of you 'Victorian' break? Hope it was relaxing.
J ;)
I
just googled "stick barometer australia" on Bing search, and got a few,
mostly out-of-date ads, very pricey. Rare. I'm wondering,
is it illegal down by you to get enough mercury to refurbish one?
Because I would guess that most of those removed from ships have been
kicked around long enough to have cracked and would need a new, repaired
glass tube plus the mercury.
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Hi. Joan.
Back today. Good time.
Pick Janeece up from the hospital tomorrow.
As
asked for, there are at least 15 Lycra clad men (and some women) on
that rock face. Could see by eye but hard to find on the pic so there is
a big picture of one for you. Some climbs at Mt Apapiles are rated up
in the 30s
Hi Janet.
I doesn't seem that long ago (probably
30yrs) they were everywhere. My friend has a lovely full size one with
the j tube and thermometer, She won't give it to me, BooHoo.
We must have a lot of logs from Bear, 4000 entries from DennisO and about 4000 between the rest of us and only 12% done.
Here is a big one from Australia. (Yes I know its not a bear, grin and bear it) :D
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That's as close as Ozzies can get to a bear. Both cute and dangerous - I don't want to mess with those claws. ;D
Welcome home, it sounds like a wonderful vacation.
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Sunshine! Looks like you had a good time down there. I'm glad for that for you. Hope all goes well tomorrow.
J ;D
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I glad you had a good vacation - it is nice to get a break now and then.
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Thanks girls. :-*
(By the way that is NOT me on the cliff.) ;)
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Smart man! :)
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I'm backing Janet on that one! ;D
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1000km, 161 laps, 6hrs 15 min 1 sec, 3/100sec - 1st to 2nd, 12 cars on the same final lap.
Go Holden.
For the uninitiated it's THE Greatest car race in the world. The Bathurst 1000, :)
Now that's over for a another year, I guess it's back to OW.
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Is that a race track, or a regular road? and how many cars
fail to make those crazy corners? That would be much more fun to
watch than the Indie 500. ;D
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Morning all.
The Bathurst circuit is a public road when it is not in use as a race track.
I've been around it, as a kid, with my dad testing his driving skills. ::)
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That he let a kid be in the car with him is amazing. ;D
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It was a very cautious lap as I recall. ;D
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It does get broadcast OS.
Yes, they did loose some cars before they put up safety fences.
Conrod straight close to 300kmph.
The circuit has a 570ft vertical height difference start to finish.
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Apparently the Aurora Borealis was visible over the UK last night -
no-one told me! >:( (I daresay it was overcast and raining down
here in Devon in any case.) The BBC website has some fab photos
here:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/in-pictures-19881645
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Amazingly beautiful! :)
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Stunning pictures!
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Lucky poms, I had to travel halfway round the world up to 69 95N to see them. But it was worth it. :)
The
red and blue colours are not that common and usually indicate strong
activity. If the aurora are going to show then around the time of the
equinoxes is usually your best chance.
Enjoy them whilst you can.
One of the pics from my trip.
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Breathtaking
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that is a wonderful picture! I saw the Northern Lights once in Canada. Just such a wonderful sight.
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I've never seen the aurora borealis (or aurora australis) and I would really like to.
I love that 'curtain' effect Stuart!
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I did see them once in Somerset.
It was while we were
reading Philip Pulman's Northern Lights Trilogy to my daughter, so we
woke her up and carried her out to see them. We still talk about it.
This
thread prompted me to try to find how to get notification that it might
be a good night for the aurora before, rather than after the event. I
found this website. http://aurorawatch.lancs.ac.uk/. You can sign up to
receive email alerts when it is likely to be a good night for aurorae.
(Is that a word?)
Here is to more aurora watching.
K
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that's a good site Keith - also you can see the activity at the NOAA
POES site which they use up at Manchester airport for those 'see the
lights' flights:
http://www.swpc.noaa.gov/pmap/
aurorae is certainly correct, but deemed a little old fashioned - auroras being entirely acceptable (says the OED) ;)
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Thanks for that, Keith. I have signed up and will look forward
to receiving my first red alert! Probably best not to hold my
breath!
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I am following AuroraWatch on twitter. ;)
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There cannot be many people in the UK who have avoided the announcement today but, for everyone else, it's here:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-19913000
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Something important to do. We are looking at generations
younger than us who will never remember anyone who remembers talking to
the vets from the Great War. The social and cultural echos of the
event will naturally become muted.
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2 Years old and still growing!
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Happy second birthday Old Weather ;D
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Morning OW and happy 2nd birthday!
I see that Caro is
mentioned in dispatches in a Moon Zoo article found here
http://forum.moonzoo.org/index.php?topic=1000.0
(http://forum.moonzoo.org/index.php?topic=1000.0) :)
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(http://www.desismileys.com/)
(http://www.smileyvault.com/albums/userpics/13802/birthday.gif)
(https://www.t-mobilepictures.com/myalbum/thumbnail/photo53/01/33/f89097f09f04__1349965715000.jpg?tw=0&th=720&s=true&rs=false)
2 Years old and still growing!
I
know this boat now I see it in big! It's beautiful! You might want to
keep it mysterious - but if you wish to know pop me a note. J ;)
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!! Happy birthday OW !!
A message - right from the top
(http://imageshack.us/a/img72/7425/twobday.jpg)
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;D ;D ;D
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Happy Birthday to us,
Happy Birthday to us,
Happy Birthday dear Uuuuuuuuuuuuusssssssssssssssssssssss,
Happy Birthday to us!
(http://www.desismileys.com/smileys/desismileys_1372.gif) (http://www.desismileys.com/)
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To celebrate 2 yrs does anybody want souvenirs? ;D
http://www.zazzle.com.au/lanternpress/gifts?cg=196186481219543740
(http://www.zazzle.com.au/lanternpress/gifts?cg=196186481219543740)
Just a thought.
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That would be celebrating the future, not the past. But I
never expected to see photos that old peddled on T-shirts and mugs. ::)
;D
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To celebrate 2 yrs does anybody want souvenirs? ;D
http://www.zazzle.com.au/lanternpress/gifts?cg=196186481219543740
(http://www.zazzle.com.au/lanternpress/gifts?cg=196186481219543740)
Just a thought.
As a Christmas bauble.....weird x 10. Great find...which one are you going to get Stuart? ;) ;D
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Happy Birthday, Old Weather, and many happy returns!!!
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That
would be celebrating the future, not the past. But I never
expected to see photos that old peddled on T-shirts and mugs. ::) ;D
and ipod speakers :o
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<heavy sigh>
Our hearts are heavy within us today - The Nationals are out of the playoffs - The last out is always the hardest!
:'( :(
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Break out the emergency chocolate! :'(
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It may be time to move to something stronger - I have tried peanuts and Cracker Jack
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<heavy sigh>
Our hearts are heavy within us today - The Nationals are out of the playoffs - The last out is always the hardest!
:'( :(
As they say in Boston...'Wait 'til NEXT year!' ;)
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It may be time to move to something stronger - I have tried peanuts and Cracker Jack
You mean there's something stronger than chocolate for emergencies? :o
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NO, NO!
Peanuts and Cracker Jack has not been strong enough - it IS time to move to the more powerful stuff - Chocolate!
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NO, NO!
Peanuts and Cracker Jack has not been strong enough - it IS time to move to the more powerful stuff - Chocolate!
PHEW! That's a relief - I though perhaps I was going to have to upgrade my emergency rations.
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Hello OW.
Graham (Galaxy Zoo moderator and ace photographer) took this amazing sun pic.
http://www.mobypicture.com/user/GrahamBowes/view/13999274
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I would like to say COOL, but I bet it is not. ;D
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Not much!
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Sailing on the sun. Exotic.
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Oh THAT'S where the Rodgers got to...couldn't give a Lat or Long
from one day to the next, and ended up bursting into flames...it's back
to Navigation School for someone! ;) ;D
Fantastic photo!
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;D ;D ;D
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;D ;D
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For everyone who is somewhat interested in the Bear's voyage to
rescue the Greely Expedition, Kevin passed on a site, pages 10 to 12 of
which name and picture different kinds of sea ice. But the whole
thing is interesting. I'm putting it in Helpful Links. :)
NOAA Pictorial Definitions of Types of Sea Ice - (http://www.arctic.noaa.gov/aro/ipy-1/US-LFB-P10.htm)Pages
10-12 have many images of different kinds of sea ice (and icebergs).
Also some pictures of other ships mentioned, like the whalers Aurora and
Arctic. All from Schley, Report of the Greely Relief Expedition (Bear, Thetis, Alert 1884).
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Hello OW.
Graham (Galaxy Zoo moderator and ace photographer) took this amazing sun pic.
http://www.mobypicture.com/user/GrahamBowes/view/13999274
Oooh!
This would seem to settle the 'Light - Wave or Particle?' argument.
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It's about time you show up! :-*
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;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Oh how we have missed your incisive wit!!
;D ;D ;D
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Good to get a glimpse of you Bunts .... hope the new ships might lure you back.
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Bunts, the interface is half way through it's remake, and I can
transcribe with a nice rhythm again. And it should improve more in
the next few days. Give it a try?
And how are all the rest of your projects going?
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Welcome back, Bunts! We missed you!!! ;D
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Hello all. Was that Bunts here again? :D
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Very briefly! ;D
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I LOVE :-* :-* :-* the new help index page - it is wonderful
for idiots like me found wandering in the wrong corner of the paper bag
whilst asking directions for the way out.
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It was created to save US MODS from having to update 3 copies of the
same post. But I put in the effort to do it with large graphics,
specifically so that experienced posters scanning quickly can find what
they want easy. It isn't on the FAQ board, because that is the
home board for all the complete references. Would it help to add
it there?
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No. I am absolutely against multiple postings. Links aplenty
to help people get around - fine. but not multiple postings. ONE THING
that would transform this site is a 'page tree' as I call them - a
directory showing the main titles and then their sub branches (there's
special name for these - escapes my brain just now). THAT would be
really helpful.
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Months back I recorded a documentary - Timewatch Special: The Last
Day of World War One - and only got round to watching it
yesterday. I think it shows up now and then on BBC4 and if they
repeat it again, I really recommend it.
The programme
focuses on what happened between 5.10am on 11 November 1918, when the
Armistice was signed, and 11am when it took effect. It is just
incredible that while many commanders did stand their troops down as
soon as they got word, there were a number who continued to be on the
offensive, and hundreds of lives were needlessly lost trying to take
positions that they could have just walked into in the afternoon.
And one curious fact that came out was that France does not officially
have any recorded deaths for 11 November 1918 as all the fatalities for
the last day of the war were "backdated" to the 10th.
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No.
I am absolutely against multiple postings. Links aplenty to help people
get around - fine. but not multiple postings. ONE THING that would
transform this site is a 'page tree' as I call them - a directory
showing the main titles and then their sub branches (there's special
name for these - escapes my brain just now). THAT would be really
helpful.
Exactly
how do want to herd the forum's ships' cats to keep adding new posts
inside your neat logic tree? That includes both me and you. ;D
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Tip for the day.
When you are 64, retired teacher, and looking for some 'Beer Money' DON'T take up Brickys laboring. :(
Day
2, over and above the usual suspects, neck, shoulders, arms, arthritic
wrist, legs, artificial knee and previously massively broken toe, I now
have at least 5 places I did not know could ache.
Never mind, the beer will numb it when I get paid.
Thinking already about asking for a raise to 'whiskey rates' (or Rum rations in keeping with the forum.) ;D
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Good morning all.
I will remember the tip about not becoming a brickie's labourer, Stuart.
Hope you feel better soon and that you are being well paid.
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You take care Stuart...rest the cold tinnies on your aching joints to cool 'em down before imbibing contents. ::) ;D
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This is worrying, Stuart; you appear to have masochistic
tendencies. Perhaps you should stick to tea - a teabag is cheaper
than a stubbie. Your day reminds me of my first two days of paid
holiday employment at age 15, in a timber yard (that's 'lumber yard' to
our North American colleagues). At the end of day one I sat in a
hot bath for one-and-a-half hours while removing splinters. The
same task at the end of day two only took 15 minutes - most of the new
splinters went into existing holes and fell out again, unaided. At 15, I
wasn't allowed to partake of some liquid solace to ease the pain.
At least geophysics was only painful on the brain.
:D :D :D
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Stuart:
I feel your pain! ;) My 'thing' was to
get involved with a build for Habitat for Humanity. It was VOLUNTEER but
the pain still hurt. Problem was I get no 'solace' as they
persistently remind me I am the 'BABY' of the group at 63! :P
A rum ration AND a double of your grog ration for the next couple days should help! ;D ;D
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Happy Birthday Moby-Dick.
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Good morning all. Gloomy, grey Monday here.
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Morning OW and Caro - very foggy here. Time for another cup of coffee to get my motor going!
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No fog, just cloud, another day with the light on till nearly lunchtime I fear.
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Nice array of new ships.
Do I assume the 100%ers (like the Manning) will not be reappearing with more logs.
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I'm assuming the pattern of Phase 2; some did and some did
not. And no one on this side of the interface knew until they were
launched.
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Morning/Afternoon/Evening all.
29c, Northerly Winds, local fire ban.
What a change from 2 weeks ago when we had sleet.
Enjoy the new vessels.
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We are. And I'm enjoying a one-day Indian Summer - summer blue
sky, 80F temp, and the sound of crunchy leaves when you walk through
the park. Too bad it won't last. So we are sharing a joy. :)
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Life is good - the Unalga reports almost immediately, on the very
first page of the log on 01/01/1942 the following..."0900-1600 Received
following supplies for general mess; from PU16 Abraham & Co, 2.5
gallons ice cream"
Feet up - this is going to be a good journey... ;D ;D ;D
Glad to hear good weather abroad....we are entering an arctic freeze this weekend....Brrrrr
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One of the first records of supplies received on Pioneer was a large
quantity of ice! And a fairly small amount of bread .... I might
be tempted to jump ship to Unalga. ::)
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Who let it slip that I was trying for the Captain of the Concord. ;)
All my crew is going AWOL. >:(
6 or 7 in less than a week.
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One
of the first records of supplies received on Pioneer was a large
quantity of ice! And a fairly small amount of bread .... I might
be tempted to jump ship to Unalga. ::)
Bring the bread Helen.! Come on over. I used to make brown bread ice cream years ago and it was lush :P ;)
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There seem to be a lot of people named (first name) that are Juo or Jas or Jus on the Concord.
Common first name in 1891 or just an anomaly?
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I do know, 'Jas' is a common abbreviation for 'James', and 'Jos' for 'Joseph'. Both always common.
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Ah Ha.
Thanks, never thought about that.
Not common ˙ɹǝpun uʍop
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Now that's a technological marvel you must explain to us. How do you type upside down in here? ???
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Just one of those things.
Some have the know how, some don't. ;D
Being in Australia helps. :D
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You just like to awe us here, is all. ;D
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Don't get much chance to do that anywhere. ;D
My crew on the Concord are always AWOL or intoxicated.
Good job we are only still provisioning.
Mind you it's getting a tad nippy (14/13f) in N.Y.
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Jas - Jason also comes to mind.
Jus - maybe Justin
Jno rather than Juo:
http://acronyms.thefreedictionary.com/JNO:
JNO John (genealogy)
?
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It's JNO that beats me...could be for Jonathon - though isn't it usually Jonathan?
Anyone got a 1920's boys name directory? Didn't think I'd be asking that!
Young Stuart ? I said ? I didn?t think I?d be asking that? -oops sorry - stand on your head and this will make sense! ;D
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Jno
Actually, Jonathon was my first thought. It seems more reasonable than John!
Just looked at my 1928 Websters though and that also says John.
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Well your morocco bound wonder Websters hasn't let us down so far... ;D
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I could go with Jno instead of Juo.
Look at his page and see what i mean. About mid way down. Also please give me your idea as to what (Ils) is.
TIA.
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Concord/vol011of040/vol011of040_028_1.jpg
(http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Concord/vol011of040/vol011of040_028_1.jpg)
Pity we can only go back about 9 pages. My crew list is way back.
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That limit on accessible old pages is a bit of a nightmare. If you
are waiting a few hours to unscramble something on the Forum you could
easily clear more than 10 pages during that time. I'd like to be able to
get to, at least, my last week's worth if need be - for those of us
that have to keep on the work-a-day work wheel it's frustrating not to
know that, over the weekend, you can sort things out in retrospect. I
think this will lead to a lot more unusable records.
Am I being a gloom merchant?
J :-\
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Have a happy day at work Joan and don't let the little 'mottlies' get you down.
Nill illegitimus carborundum.
(If you don't know, don't ask.)
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How about:
http://www.history.navy.mil/books/callahan/reg-usn-s.htm
Strauss, Joseph.
Cadet Engineer, 1 October, 1881. Ensign, 1 July, 1887. Lieutenant, Junior Grade, 3 April, 1896. Lieutenant, 3 March, 1899
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Concord/vol011of040/vol011of040_004_0.jpg ;D
http://www.history.navy.mil/books/callahan/reg-usn-c.htm
Cottman, Vincedon L.
Midshipman,
25 September, 1868. Graduated 1 June, 1872. Ensign, 15 July, 1873.
Master, 9 May, 1878. Lieutenant, Junior Grade, 3 March, 1883.
Lieutenant, 8 January, 1885. Lieutenant Commander, 3 March, 1899.
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OK That's good for the officers. I will check and amend my .doc version now.
Now, how do I get back to edit the crew list?
I am currently on 029
Crew list is on 007
Help please.
Jas seems to be for James (Jas A Ring shows as James E Ring)
Pity there is not a list for the other ranks.
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I am sure that will be implemented, but I'm afraid you will have to wait a bit longer.
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It is never good to see a possible weather event described this way :o ;D -
If they verify, Sandy could be a dangerous storm for a few, if not many
of the metro areas from Norfolk to Portland, including Washington,
D.C., New York City, and Boston.
Guess I'm off to the store for supplies and batteries - milk, bread, toilet paper...
(milk, bread & toilet paper sell out around here right before any sort of major storm :P)
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The "Concord" has just been provisioned, look like all we have to do is batten down the hatches.
Good luck.
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It is never good to see a possible weather event described this way :o ;D -
If they verify, Sandy could be a dangerous storm for a few, if not many
of the metro areas from Norfolk to Portland, including Washington,
D.C., New York City, and Boston.
Guess I'm off to the store for supplies and batteries - milk, bread, toilet paper...
(milk, bread & toilet paper sell out around here right before any sort of major storm :P)
:o :o :o Good luck Kathy!! Hope you got your provisions!
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Thanks - the squawking about Sandy has begun - I'm sure it will all blow over ;D
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Has anybody seen this site?
http://www.spanamwar.com/genealogy5abbrev.htm (http://www.spanamwar.com/genealogy5abbrev.htm)
Found it whilst looking what reank (lds) was.
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nice! :o
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Now that's a technological marvel you must explain to us. How do you type upside down in here? ???
I
had a program to do that but it's 'lost' somewhere on the hard
drive! maybe one of these years I'll remember it's name and find
it. ;)
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Has anybody seen this site?
http://www.spanamwar.com/genealogy5abbrev.htm (http://www.spanamwar.com/genealogy5abbrev.htm)
Found it whilst looking what reank (lds) was.
That
one is good! it answers your "lds" question. Never in a
million years would I thind "landsman" was a navy rating. ;D
I have added that to the Abbreviations (non-weather), along with CWT - Chief Water Tender. :)
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Thanks - the squawking about Sandy has begun - I'm sure it will all blow over ;D
It has made the news down under.
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I was watching the BBC-America news tonight on PBS, and it just hit
the Bahamas, after killing at least 21 on Cuba and other islands.
That's attention-getting.
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-501715_162-57540804/sandy-pounds-bahamas-after-killing-21-in-caribbean/
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oh boy! Sandy looks like a bad one....and that 'road' block is
presumably what is giving us our arctic blast. :o :o
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Regarding Hurricane Sandy - - Here's a link to the CoCoRaHS blog
site connected to the place that I post my weather info to.
It makes a good explanation without the 'talking heads hype.'
http://cocorahs.blogspot.co.uk/2012/10/east-coast-bracing-for-big-storm.html
Batten the hatches!!!!
Blessings, dean
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Things just seem to be getting worse - now there are 3 systems
expected to interact with each other - cold from the North - thanks
Craig :P; Sandy from the South; and something from the West.
I think Bailey (our dog) is sensing something - she is very nervous -
barking, panting, pooping in the house (ugh) - I'm beginning to wonder
if we should pack up and leave :o ;D
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The temperature is going up to 21 C today in sunny Gatineau, Kathy.
The normal for this time of year is 9. But beginning tomorrow it's
supposed to get back to normal. I'll see if I can do something about
that. ;D
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Awww -loan us a therm or two. I watched the US weather that showed a
huge High bending the great storm into the middle of the
continent...and the other side of the high was a small island on the top
left hand corner of Europe enjoying arctic breezes. Brrrrr! That'd be
UK (un-kind ;D)
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I think Craig's just catching the 2 days of Indian Summer we lost
yesterday around supper time. ocr last night, b this morning but
now the temp is in the 40s. That's also, I think, single digit
C.
Enjoy it while it's there, Craig! ;)
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Why hello again chaps!
Long time no see, as they say - I
almost feel like I should go for one of the "Introduce yourself"
threads. Nice to see a few familiar faces around still.
I
haven't seen you here in a long time, so I thought I would pass this
along (in the unlikely hope that you have "Notify by email every time
you receive a personal message" on).
There's an option for that?!
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Hey, good to see you again!
Danny meet Stuart (pommystuart)
Stuart meet Danny
Yes, see attachment.
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Well hidden, that option... I searched for it umpteen times :(
Hello
pommystuart! Good to see another person who plays with trains on here -
precisely what I'll be spending my weekend doing, in fact... Well,
between copying up logbooks, of course.
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I'm taking the latest disk-drive of images and flying back to Seattle before the storm gets here (I hope).
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Safe journey Kevin.
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Well hidden, that option... I searched for it umpteen times :(
Hello
pommystuart! Good to see another person who plays with trains on here -
precisely what I'll be spending my weekend doing, in fact... Well,
between copying up logbooks, of course.
Hi Danny.
I am in Australia. Where are you?
Trains and casual work during the week, Gliding on the weekend.
Of flying now, have a good day.
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Coming back here has jinxed me now - expected a nice, calm day on
the railway, and now it's started to snow. Teaches me to look at arctic
logbooks...
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Are you saying weather is contagious? ;D
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I'm taking the latest disk-drive of images and flying back to Seattle before the storm gets here (I hope).
Travel safe. Sounds like a good thing to get out of the path.
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Are you saying weather is contagious? ;D
Only if it's old!
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Good morning OW, hello GMT. ;D
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While we over here are will be hanging on to that late sunrise
another week. I really wish congress had not done that. :(
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Good morning OW, hello GMT. ;D
What has AEST done to miss out. ;)
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While we over here are will be hanging on to that late sunrise another week. I really wish congress had not done that. :(
I agree. Canada decided to copy the US decision.
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GMT here - my favourite time of year. Especially when you oversleep like I did this morning! ;D ;D ;D
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GMT here - my favourite time of year. --- YES - an extra hour!
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Storm Check List:
Salsa con Queso Cheetos - check
Little Debbie Zebra Cakes - check
Beer - check
Captain Morgan's Spiced Rum - check
Chocolate - double check! (bought Halloween candy last week - don't think I'm going to need it :P )
I'm ready! ;D ::)
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Good luck to all our US transcribers who might be affected by the
storm. Let us know how you are faring as soon as you can, we'll be
thinking of you.
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Interesting stock taking. ;D
For all on or near the east coast, do take care and keep yourself safe, this one looks scary.
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got the essentials :P
Especially the chocolate! ;D
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Hoping that all of you on the East Coast of the USA come through
Sandy unscathed - sounds like you could be in for a rough time.
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Me too. We will be thinking of you all on the East Coast.
Glad to see you have all the essential supplies in, Kathy.
I have been using generous amounts of the good Captain's finest in my Christmas puddings.
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Glad you managed to get all the (real) essentials for survival, Kathy - thinking of you.
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Thanks all for your thoughts - I'm just ready for this to get started and be over with! ;D
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This from the National Weather Service - 'Forecast Discussion'
for Niagara Falls, New York (western end of the state) at 1300edt:
VIRTUALLY ALL MODEL GUIDANCE CONTINUES SUGGEST THERE WILL BE MAJOR
STORM SYSTEM OFF THE MID ATLANTIC COAST ON MONDAY AS HURRICANE SANDY
MERGES WITH AN UPPER LEVEL TROF. THIS WILL RESULT IN AN
EXTRAORDINARILY DEEP 950MB LOW OFF THE MID ATLANTIC COAST. WHILE
WESTERN NEW YORK SHOULD MISS THE WORST OF THE IMPACTS OF THE
REMNANTS OF SANDY...IT WILL HAVE A MAJOR IMPACT.
THE MAIN IMPACTS...
1) HIGH WINDS...
THE STRONGEST WINDS WILL BE FELT ACROSS THE REGION ON MONDAY NIGHT.
ITS IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT THE STRONGEST WINDS WILL BE WELL AHEAD
OF THE SURFACE LOW. STRONG WINDS WILL ENTER THE REGION LATE MONDAY
AFTERNOON...MOVING ACROSS THE REGION MONDAY NIGHT BEFORE
EXITING TUESDAY MORNING. UNLIKE MOST HIGH WINDS EVENTS...WINDS
WILL BE NORTH OR NORTHEAST...WHICH WILL GENERALLY INCREASE THE
LIKELIHOOD FOR DAMAGE TO TREES AND STRUCTURES. SINCE STRONG WINDS
TYPICALLY ARE FROM THE WEST OR SOUTHWEST...TYPICALLY PROTECTED
LOCATIONS MAY BE MORE VULNERABLE.
WIND SPEEDS WILL VARY GREATLY BY LOCATION. GENERALLY...THE
STRONGEST SUSTAINED WINDS WILL RUN BETWEEN 30 AND 45 MPH...WITH
GUSTS 50 TO 65 MPH. THIS WILL COME IN A 3 TO 6 HOUR PERIOD...AS A
LOW LEVEL JET ASSOCIATED WITH THE REMNANTS BACKS ACROSS THE REGION
FROM EAST TO WEST. NOT ALL LOCATIONS WILL SEE THE HIGH END OF
THESE WINDS. AREAS MOST LIKELY TO SEE THE HIGHER END OF THE RANGE
ARE...THE IMMEDIATE LAKE SHORE...HIGHER TERRAIN...AND NORTH TO
SOUTH VALLEYS. NORTH TO SOUTH VALLEYS SUCH AS THE FINGER
LAKES...AND THE BLACK RIVER VALLEY MAY HAVE MORE DAMAGE AT THE
SOUTH ENDS...WHERE NORTHERLY WINDS WILL TEND TO FUNNEL.
IT IS UNUSUAL TO ISSUE A HIGH WIND WARNING THIS FAR IN ADVANCE...BUT
STRONG MODEL AGREEMENT HAS PROVIDED AMPLE CONFIDENCE FOR THE
WARNING. SEVERAL RUNS OF THE NAM/GFS SHOW 2000 FOOT WINDS OF 65 TO
80 KNOTS. WHILE ALL OF THIS WILL NOT MIX DOWN...THIS IS CLOSE ENOUGH
TO THE SURFACE SO EVEN THOUGH THESE WINDS ALOFT WILL BE CROSSING AT
NIGHT...THE AFOREMENTIONED GUSTS ARE POSSIBLE. ITS ALSO WORTH
NOTING THAT WINDS ARE FAIRLY WELL ALIGNED...AND THAT SURFACE
TEMPERATURES WILL BE AT OR BELOW LAKE TEMPERATURES...WHICH WILL
AID IN MIXING ACROSS THE LAKES AND ALONG THE IMMEDIATE LAKESHORES.
2) FLOOD POTENTIAL...
SANDY WILL ALSO BRING AN EXTENDED PERIOD OF RAINFALL TO MUCH OF
WESTERN NY. MOST OF THE HEAVY RAINFALL WILL COME WITH THE STRONGEST
WINDS. THIS WILL BRING A QUICK 1 TO 2 INCHES OF RAIN...AND WILL
LIKELY BE THE KEY TRIGGER TO ANY FLOODING WHICH MAY OCCUR.
THE BIGGEST QUESTION REMAINING IS HOW MUCH RAIN FALLS AHEAD OF THIS
BAND. RESEARCH SHOWS THAT SIGNIFICANT FLOODING CAN OCCUR AHEAD OF A
TROPICAL SYSTEM...PARTICULARLY IF TROPICAL MOISTURE FINDS A BOUNDARY
TO FOCUS ON. INDEED THERE IS A STALLED BOUNDARY ACROSS THE
REGION...WHICH WILL SLIDE TO THE WEST AS THE INTENSIFYING LOW
EFFECTIVELY PUSHES IT OUT OF THE WAY. THIS CASE IS A BIT DIFFERENT
FROM MOST...GIVEN THE LARGELY EXTRATROPICAL NATURE OF THE LOW BY THE
TIME IT ARRIVES. SOME RAIN IS EXPECTED AHEAD OF THE MAIN TROPICAL
RAINS ON MONDAY NIGHT...BUT IF THIS TURNS OUT TO BE MORE THAN MODEL
GUIDANCE IS FORECASTING...THEN FLOODING COULD BE MORE SIGNIFICANT.
AS IS...CONSENSUS QPF AND MMEFS ENSEMBLES SUGGEST THERE IS FLOODING
POTENTIAL ACROSS PARTS OF WESTERN NEW YORK. THE GREATEST POTENTIAL
IS IN THE BUFFALO CREEKS...WHICH TEND TO BE A BIT QUICKER TO
RISE...AND ARE MOST LIKELY TO BE PRIMED WITH RAINS AHEAD OF THE MAIN
TROPICAL PUSH. THERE IS ALSO A POTENTIAL FOR RIVER FLOODING ON THE
GENESEE AND ALLEGHENY RIVERS...BUT BOTH APPEARS TO BE MARGINAL...AND
GENERALLY IN THE MINOR CATEGORY.
THERE COULD ALSO BE SOME URBAN FLOOD ISSUES. KEEP IN MIND THERE
ARE PLENTY OF LEAVES WHICH COULD POTENTIALLY CLOG DRAINS AND NARROW
CREEKS. THERE IS ALSO THE POSSIBILITY OF POWER OUTAGES WHERE HEAVY
RAINFALL COULD RESULT IN FLOODED BASEMENTS. WILL KEEP THE FLOOD
WATCH IN PLACE SOUTH OF LAKE ONTARIO FOR MONDAY AFTERNOON INTO
TUESDAY. ANY SIGNIFICANT RIVER FLOODING MAY CONTINUE BEYOND
TUESDAY...BUT WOULD BE HANDLED BY WARNINGS. ALSO...QPFS ARE
CONSISTENTLY LESS EAST OF LAKE ONTARIO...SO CONTINUE TO KEEP THIS
REGION OUT OF THE FLOOD WATCH.
3) LAKE SHORE FLOODING...
STRONG NORTH TO NORTHEAST WINDS WILL DEVELOP LATE MONDAY AFTERNOON
AND CONTINUE INTO TUESDAY. WINDS OF 40 TO 50 KNOTS ARE EXPECTED ON
LAKE ONTARIO...SLIGHTLY LESS SPEEDS ON LAKE ERIE. WINDS OF THIS
MAGNITUDE FROM THE NORTH OR NORTHEAST ARE EXCEEDINGLY RARE...IF NOT
UNPRECEDENTED. THIS WOULD PRODUCE SIGNIFICANT WAVE HEIGHTS OF 16 TO
22 FEET ALONG THE SOUTH SHORE OF LAKE ONTARIO AND NEAR 15 FEET ON
LAKE ERIE SUNSET BAY SOUTHWARD. THIS MAY PRODUCE SIGNIFICANT
LAKESHORE FLOODING ALONG THE SOUTH SHORE OF BOTH LAKES...MAINLY IN
BAYS AND INLETS. HISTORICALLY...WE KNOW BRADDOCK BAY IS
SUSCEPTIBLE TO LAKESHORE FLOODING...BUT WITH AN EVENT OF THIS
MAGNITUDE FLOODING IS POSSIBLE IN MANY OF THE BAYS ALONG THE SOUTH
SHORE OF THE LAKE.
OUTSIDE OF THE SIGNIFICANT IMPACTS...MONDAY WILL BE A GENERALLY
CLOUDY AND RAINY DAY...ESPECIALLY IN EASTERN SECTIONS. RAIN AND
WIND WILL QUICKLY SPREAD ACROSS THE REGION MONDAY NIGHT...MAKING
FOR HARSH TRAVEL CONDITIONS. SLIGHTLY WARMER AIR WITH MARITIME
ROOTS WILL BUILD INTO THE REGION WITH THESE STRONG WINDS...RAISING
TEMPERATURES SLIGHTLY ON MONDAY NIGHT. WINDS AND RAIN WILL TAPER
OFF SOME ON TUESDAY...LINGERING LONGEST IN WESTERN PORTIONS.
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Good luck you guys. Thinking of you.
Keith
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Yes - good luck and hope you come safely through it!
Joan :-* :-*
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Good luck, Kathy!
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Thanks - CHommel lives down the street from me - I hope she is ready -
What
I can't believe is that New York's subway is closed; Washington's metro
is closed; the Northeast Corridor (Amtrak) is closed. I don't
think that has ever happened - :o
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Thanks - CHommel lives down the street from me - I hope she is ready -
What
I can't believe is that New York's subway is closed; Washington's metro
is closed; the Northeast Corridor (Amtrak) is closed. I don't
think that has ever happened - :o
I've
never seen a storm so wide, one edge will be east of the coast while
the other is whipping up gale winds over Lake Michigan! This one
is truly a first, in my life time.
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HI Janet,
Just added a new topic at the Cafe on Citizen
Science and History in schools and colleges. I am so keen on this.
Anything you can do to spread the word gratefully received.
All best, Gordon
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All of my experiences, including an organizational sense of who to
talk to, are in manufacturing. Public libraries in the US are
strongly oriented to reach the young, and each branch usually has at
least 1 librarian tasked to make that happen. That would be the
one thing that might well exist on both sides of the Atlantic.
Lacking knowledge of who to talk to in schools, I'd maybe look in your
church or neighborhood for someone in education who would know which
title to point you towards.
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Some further information from the CoCoRaHS blogsite. CoCoRaHS is one
of the places I send my weather data besides the National Weather
Service. This looks to be a 'big one.' Hatches are battened and we
are ready for a rough ride. Hopefully ship will continue to float (but
not too far off course!! ;))
http://cocorahs.blogspot.com/
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Thought ya'll might find this interesting :
http://news.yahoo.com/crew-tall-ship-off-nc-abandons-ship-105251807.html
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A bad time to be sailing off the shores of NC, indeed!
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Well, Sandy sank to Bounty -
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The one thing I can't understand, is when they left Rhode Island the
day the storm was arriving, why did they sail south right into the
storm to South Carolina? Why didn't they head north and east, away
from it? ???
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I was wondering why they were reckless/stupid/unlucky enough to be there myself.
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The
one thing I can't understand, is when they left Rhode Island the day
the storm was arriving, why did they sail south right into the storm to
South Carolina? Why didn't they head north and east, away from it?
???
Couldn't agree more Janet.
My view: not only was it stupid to themselves - they then endangered others for no good reason in the rescue. :o >:(
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they then endangered others for no good reason in the rescue.
YES
(and destroyed the ship >:()
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(and destroyed the ship >:()
oh - hadn't spotted that - sheesh! I wonder if the insurance will pay up? ???
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YES yes YES yes yes yes yes yeeeeeeeeees!
I
know the new vessel pages don't show who is really captain - but I
finally made it - if the pages worked right I'd have got there. It'll
probably be the only time I do it....oh joy ;D
(Oh dear -I can be so childish at times. :-[ :-[ ::))
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Well, the street light across from my house has blown over -
and let me just say, men are crazy - my hubby and son have gone to
Wendy's ::)
There was something on the news about how the
crew was trying to get the Bounty out of the way of the storm - she
usually sailed just along the coast - but she starting taking on water
faster than the pumps could get rid of it.
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Way to go, Joan 8)
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YES yes YES yes yes yes yes yeeeeeeeeees!
I
know the new vessel pages don't show who is really captain - but I
finally made it - if the pages worked right I'd have got there. It'll
probably be the only time I do it....oh joy ;D
(Oh dear -I can be so childish at times. :-[ :-[ ::))
Definitely deserving of the celebration. ;D
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Well,
the street light across from my house has blown over - and let me
just say, men are crazy - my hubby and son have gone to
Wendy's ::)
Why
was Wendy's crazy enough to have staff working there? Apparently
it's not just men. Although blizzards have taught me, storms can
make you feel cabin fever more than the 4 walls can.
There
was something on the news about how the crew was trying to get the
Bounty out of the way of the storm - she usually sailed just along the
coast - but she starting taking on water faster than the pumps could get
rid of it.
Something
else had to happen, because they ended up south of the port they left,
heading towards the storm. I wonder if all those sails kept them
from going north and east?
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Well, as it turns out, Wendy's was closed - but McDonald's is open ;D
Yeah, maybe, apparently the Coast Guard is already investigating - 2 of the crew members are missing :(
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YES yes YES yes yes yes yes yeeeeeeeeees!
I
know the new vessel pages don't show who is really captain - but I
finally made it - if the pages worked right I'd have got there. It'll
probably be the only time I do it....oh joy ;D
(Oh dear -I can be so childish at times. :-[ :-[ ::))
I know exactly how you feel!
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Latest reports on 'BOUNTY':
A search was under way Monday for two
crew members of the stricken ship HMS Bounty, which sank off the coast
of North Carolina after it was caught in Hurricane Sandy, the U.S. Coast
Guard said. Earlier Monday, two Coast Guard helicopters rescued 14
people from life rafts after they were forced to abandon ship.
The
180-foot, three-mast ship issued a distress signal late Sunday after
taking on water, the U.S. Coast Guard said in a release.
"It
appears that two crew members didn't make it onto the life rafts," Coast
Guard spokesman Lt. Michael Patterson told NBC News. The Coast Guard
was speaking with the rescued crew members to find out more details.
Coast
Guard rescue pilot Lt. Jenny Fields told NBC News that the operation
was a "challenging hoist" but that she was lucky to have a "skillful
crew" on her Jayhawk helicopter. Fields said the crew appeared in "good
spirits" and those rescued were "happy to be able to relax."
Coast
Guard rescue swimmer Randy Haba helped pluck several crew members off a
25-foot rubber life raft. He was also lowered to a crew member floating
in the water alone. He wrapped a strap around his body, and raised him
to the chopper. "It's one of the biggest seas I've ever been in. It was
huge out there," Haba said.
The two missing crew members were
wearing survival suits designed to help keep them afloat and protected
from cold waters for up to 15 hours, but so far the Coast Guard has not
seen any sign of them.
The director of the HMS Bounty
Organization, Tracie Simonin, said the ship -- which was built for the
1962 Marlon Brando movie, "Mutiny on the Bounty" -- had left Connecticut
last week en route for St. Petersburg, Fla. "They were staying in
constant contact with the National Hurricane Center," she said. "They
were trying to make it around the storm."
After receiving the
distress signal, the Coast Guard sent out an aircraft to speak with the
crew, which reported that the vessel was taking on water and had no
propulsion. The rescue took place in winds of 40 mph and 18-foot seas
about 90 miles southeast of Cape Hatteras, N.C. -- NBC News, full
report: http://tinyurl.com/NBC-102912
HMS Bounty website: http://www.tallshipbounty.org/
COMMENT:
"How can anyone qualified to be the captain of a boat the size of the
Bounty be so foolish to have left New London, Connecticut last Thursday
and head south to St. Petersburg, Florida when the path and enormity of
Hurricane Sandy was already forecasted? Why did the owners not insist
that Bounty stay in port, find a secure harbor, tie her down, send down
all the sails and rigging possible to reduce windage?" -- D.M. Street
Jr, esteemed yachtsman and Scuttlebutt reader,
http://www.street-iolaire.com
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AND a bit of 'explanation for 'Sandy'
http://cocorahs.blogspot.com/
BTW
- So far we have survived in western New York State. The grill moved
across the deck. Lots of wind - some power out but not ours - yet. I'm
headed to the Lake in a bit to check on my boat. It was up on the hard
so we should be Ok. Need to check the tarps, and cradle. Lake
buoys showed 10 - 15 foot waves overnight. Wind was N and NE which is
not 'normal' for this area.
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Just picked this headline up form the Washington Post
'Sandy's
devastating blow More than 7.5 million on East Coast lose
power in storm' 7.5 million - London! Apparently
'Ground Zero' is massively under water too.
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I'm see the far western edge of Sandy - no storm should be
simultaneously affecting 2 bodies of water nearly a 1,000 miles apart,
but that is what is happening. Very abnormal cloud movement, but
no rain. Most of the sky is a light o, but the eastern horizon and
over the lake is such a heavy ocg, the street lights stayed on for half
an hour after sunrise. Very, very dangerous on the lake today,
all of the lakeshore biking paths and parks have been closed.
(Winds clocked up to force 10, and waves up to 19 feet. And this
is not considered part of the storm!)
Seeing just the far edge, thought of what hit the east coast is terrifying. I'll be glad when it has finally moved on.
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It seems they recovered one of the missing men but he died soon
afterwards. The other, the Captain, was still missing the last
time I heard the news. The rescue must have been scary, I've
always had great respect for lifeboatmen - the ones who go to sea when
everyone else is heading for harbour.
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I heard they found the captain's body.
I also heard
they had set out due east to get out of the storm's way, and then when
the center of the storm was even with them headed back in, to cross over
the storm's tail and continue to Florida west of its track.
As
seen by a pure landlubber (me), that feels dangerously stupid. But
I need to ask a sailor why staying far out to sea while traveling
south, and cutting back to Florida when they can do it turning west,
wasn't considered a good idea? What are those dangers?
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I heard they found the captain's body.
Then let us say Rest in Peace for the two souls lost.
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As a sailor, I was taught never to cruise with a 'deadline.'
I'm guessing they had 'promised' to be somewhere at some time and tried
to 'beat Mother Nature' and sail around a storm. Unfortunately - they
lost!! R.I.P - two crewpersons!!
Winds in western Lake Ontario
were 40 gusting 60 most of the night. Buoys that I can check were
running 12 - 15' (4-5M) waves. DID check one off New York harbor last
night that was showing 35' (12M) !! Just got back from checking the boat
which was 'on the hard' for the winter. All is fine.
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Glad to hear that your boat is well above the waves Dean. New York
looks very wet indeed - those buoy measurements (your and NY's) are
alarming :o... We are all bracing ourselves over here in case we get the
dog end of Sandy. ???
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Looking across the lake at the western edge of Sandy, it's pitch
black clouds that don't seem to move. They've just been there for
about 20 hours now. Both the Chicago and Milwaukee buoys have
logged 19 and 20 ft. waves, and there's 45 to 55 mph wind gusts.
And the entire lake to the horizon, save the whitecaps, has turned to
the color of sand. I can't imagine what it feels like to be
sitting 900 miles into that blackness.
(https://www.t-mobilepictures.com/myalbum/thumbnail/photo32/d7/c3/f1d2086c4000__1351630228000.jpg?tw=0&th=720&s=true&rs=false)
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Hi all -
Well, we certainly dodged the bullet!
Gaithersburg got 10 inches of rain, and we lost our power at 12:30 this
morning and came back on at 4:00 this afternoon - our only damage is to a
bay window (water leaking in past the roof flashing) and some limbs
down - our big oak tree and plane tree still look pretty sturdy.
The street light across from us is still down - don't know when that will be fixed.
It was so surreal - I heard the wind gust that knocked out our power - I have never heard wind sound so solid before :o
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Glad to hear from you Kathy.
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Poor New York - lower Manhattan is just a mess and where my in-laws
used to live on Long Island (Freeport) took a real beating. My
sister's in-laws in on the beach in New Jersey and they have standing
water in their house :(
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Great to hear that you survived the big gust relatively unscathed Kathy! Well done :D
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I did all this prep work - washed all the clothes; cooked some meals
to warm up on the grill; cleaned house; etc., - that is why we got
power back so soon ;D. I am going to get some battery
operated heaters though - it got quite cold here on the backside of the
storm - once I do, though, we will never lose power again! ;D
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Glad to hear you've come through OK Kathy - it still sounds scarey
though. And New York has certainly taken a beating. I've got
(Franciscan) brothers on Long Island who are OK too, though they've
lost trees, one of which is threatening part of a building, and had no
power the last I heard.
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Thanks all, for your good wishes -
I certainly hope your brothers get everything back in ORDER soon ( ;D ) -
seriously, I hope so, I'm afraid though, it will take some time for everything to be back to normal there.
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Hi Kathy! Relieved to hear you are OK!
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I
did all this prep work - washed all the clothes; cooked some meals to
warm up on the grill; cleaned house; etc., - that is why we got power
back so soon ;D. I am going to get some battery operated
heaters though - it got quite cold here on the backside of the storm -
once I do, though, we will never lose power again! ;D
It's
like carrying an umbrella on a cloudy day - if you do, the rain
will wait; if you don't, it will soak you to the skin.
I'm really glad you got off so easy. This one is once-in-a-lifetime nasty. Is Carolyn okay, too?
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I don't know for sure, but I think so. All power is supposed to be
restored by tomorrow afternoon. I'll try to reach her then. We talked
before the storm hit. She was prepared, so I think all is good.
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I am so glad for you both, the whole situation looks like the worst kind of horrible on TV.
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Washington was lucky - New York and New Jersey - well, I hear the
shorelines will never be the same. I also hear it will be days
before Manhattan is dried out.
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Someone on the NBC news special tonight asked if New York was
becoming the new Amsterdam. Too many catastrophic floods and
extra-high tides, maybe it's time to start building dikes.
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Came home earlier this evening from a meeting with the local chapter
of the American Meteorological Society. Lots of talk about Sandy.
Interesting - as the feeling was that this was just a 'run of the mill'
Cat 1 hurricane that would have run the coastline and drifted NE and
back to sea and been no big deal EXCEPT that the 'Greenland Block' was
solid and pushed it back west AND it ran into a large cold front which
intensified it - compounded by the fact that it hit landfall in the most
populated area in the USA and BOOM...DISASTER!! >:( Reminded
many of the 'Perfect Storm' of 1991.
The size was totally amazing. It was/is over 1000 miles across.
Some
Scientists think there may be a connection to Global Warming:
http://entertainment.verizon.com/news/read.php?id=19268974&ps=1011&srce=news_class&action=10&lang=en&
Our thoughts and prayers are for those who got hit and we hope New York will dry out.
Glad you are OK, Kathy, Janet, and others!!
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Chicago didn't get anything damaging, as long as you totally
respected the fact that the lake was in a killer mood. I'm glad
you are doing fine also. Must have been a very interesting
meeting.
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We got the tail end of Sandy up here in Ottawa. The media had been
predicting winds with gusts up to 80 or 90 km/hr but it wasn't that bad.
We have had much worse summer storms. One very unlucky woman was killed
in Toronto when a street sign came loose because of the strong winds
and killed her. There wasn't much damage in the Ottawa-Gatineau area.
(I'm in Gatineau). I am glad to hear the rest of you came through OK.
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Our thoughts and prayers for all our US friends and colleagues. Gordon
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Sorry, and Canadian.
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I'm glad to hear that none of you suffered severely from Sandy - I
hear that the National Archives suffered some storm damage, but I don't
think any of the logbooks washed away :)
The question 'how
was this storm influenced by global warming?' is a difficult one, and at
the moment we don't have an answer we're confident in. It's worth
reminding ourselves that this is exactly why we're doing oldWeather. To
say how Sandy is different from previous storms, and why, we need to
know the environment of those previous storms, which means long-term
historical weather reconstructions.
Came
home earlier this evening from a meeting with the local chapter of the
American Meteorological Society. Lots of talk about Sandy.
Interesting - as the feeling was that this was just a 'run of the mill'
Cat 1 hurricane that would have run the coastline and drifted NE and
back to sea and been no big deal EXCEPT that the 'Greenland Block' was
solid and pushed it back west AND it ran into a large cold front which
intensified it - compounded by the fact that it hit landfall in the most
populated area in the USA and BOOM...DISASTER!! >:( Reminded
many of the 'Perfect Storm' of 1991.
The size was totally amazing. It was/is over 1000 miles across.
Some
Scientists think there may be a connection to Global Warming:
http://entertainment.verizon.com/news/read.php?id=19268974&ps=1011&srce=news_class&action=10&lang=en&
Our thoughts and prayers are for those who got hit and we hope New York will dry out.
Glad you are OK, Kathy, Janet, and others!!
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I read that some of the terrible weather events we have had lately
could be partly caused by the the jet stream getting "stuck" in one
position for some time. This would be caused by the diminishing
difference in temperature between the poles and the equator. In the the
case of Sandy it became a super storm because of a cold front in
Greenland. If I understood correctly, this would have slowed its
progress while also contributing to its strength because of temperature
differences between two fronts. Of course, nobody is willing to say that
a single weather event is caused by global warming, but the article
Dean geve us the link to sort of suggests that there could be a
connection. I guess we would need to see more of these storms (heaven
forbid) to draw any conclusions?
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I've noticed that all of the weather records we are breaking this
decade were made a long time ago, sometimes more than a century.
And the still-standing record for most snow is more than 30 years
old. That year was record breaking because again the jet stream
was "stuck" - it wasn't a monster storm that buried us, it was ordinary
snow storms that appeared once or twice a week, all winter long.
So many things can freeze a jet stream in place on occasion.
What
needs explaining is why "stuck jetstream" records that took literally
10 decades to accumulate on the books are ALL being smashed in the same
decade. Anyone who thinks that is NOT global warming needs to come
up with something else to explain why every record is being smashed at
the same time. Something new is definitely happening.
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I would send you the link to the article, Janet, but you have to be a
NewScientist subscriber to access it. But here are a few pertinent
paragraphs:
Overland,
however, doesn't buy these ideas. He thinks there are a lot more snowy
and cold winters to come. He points out that the Arctic is warming
faster than anywhere else on Earth, and as the extent of summer sea ice
falls, the Arctic Ocean is soaking up more heat during the summer and
releasing it in autumn.
According to an analysis by Overland,
finalised in October 2009 before the coldest of the recent winters
began, this is affecting wind patterns above the Arctic and weakening
the Arctic vortex (Tellus, vol 62, p 1). As the vortex weakens, it
becomes increasingly likely that cold air will move south and produce
anomalously cold winter weather.
Several other researchers have
come to similar conclusions. In particular, Jennifer Francis of Rutgers
University in New Brunswick, New Jersey, has been studying "reanalyses",
which combine historical observations with the sort of computer models
used by weather forecasters today to generate a complete picture of past
weather. In as-yet unpublished work, she has found that, since the
1980s, the east-west component of the polar jet stream has slowed by
around 15 per cent during autumn and winter, with the biggest drops
occurring in the past few years.
The jet stream is driven by the
difference in temperature between the high and low latitudes, but the
rapid warming in the Arctic is weakening that temperature gradient,
especially in autumn, she says. "I think what's happening at the surface
is driving the changes at the upper level." A slowdown in the jet
stream means it is more likely to develop the enormous kinks that let
Arctic air spill south. What's more, these kinks move more slowly,
making the weather they bring much more persistent.
They are also
more likely to get stuck in one place for weeks at a time, Francis
says. Such "blocking events" can lead to very extreme weather, such as
the "Snowmageddon" blizzards in the US in February 2010 and the
prolonged cold in the UK in December 2010.
There is some
independent evidence to back Francis's ideas. A study published in
November found that blocking events are becoming more frequent over the
Atlantic (Science, vol 334, p 655).
Kinks in the jet stream can
bring warm weather as well as cold, though, Francis points out. "It's
not that we will have increasingly cold winters but more persistent
conditions," she says. "This winter could be incredibly warm for a long
time."
So the jury is still out, but a growing number of studies
indicate that the atmospheric changes brought about by global warming
are at least partly to blame for the past two extreme winters. If so, we
could be in for a lot more unusual winter weather, with more extremes
of both hot and cold. Hold on to your hat, because we could be in for a
wild ride.
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Did anyone else catch the Beeb's prog about the birth of an iceberg yesterday evening? It was very good, and very scarey.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/p00tvcp0/Operation_Iceberg_Birth_of_a_berg/
It continues next week.
The
final clip of a massive headland (about 1sq kilometre) of ice peeling
off into the water was astonishing. The bit where the went down into a
moulin (big deep hole in the ice) was scarey ..very scarey.
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When we are looking at just one weather feature, such as snow, 2 or 3
consecutive 'big' years has also happened consistently across
history. Same snow record in Chicago, I think started in
'79. First year we broke the record for most seasonal snow. Second
year we broke the record for longest and deepest cold. Third
consecutive year, we smashed both new records at the same time.
And
then had a decade of warm, mild winters to make up for it and keep our
seasonal averages pretty much where they'd always been.
But no
other records - summer rain, drought, whatever - were threatened those
same years. You have to look at the whole picture to start getting
scared.
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This is what Dr Lubchenco was referring to in her remarks that
Philip has now posted on the blog (in the OW launch notice). For those
who want to dive deep one of the recent journal papers referred to above
is available here (Overland et al. Geophysical Research Letters):
http://www.agu.org/pubs/crossref/2012/2012GL053268.shtml
I
expect we will now see a period when these ideas will get further
thrashed out in the peer-reviewed literature in the usual way. By the
way, Dr Overland and Dr Wang are my colleagues at PMEL and JISAO, and
supporters of Old Weather.
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Wow! It's a small world.
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I must say, the other reason for not using a single type of record
for convincing someone that global warming is happening, is that these
'normal' bad 3-year runs are vividly etched in everyone's permanent
memory. Trust me, shoveling that much snow out of my parking spot
in sometimes below-zero cold - with asthma, 3 years in a row - will
never be forgotten! If that never happens again in my lifetime,
I'll be very happy.
But the new 'bad years' don't intuitively fit
the pattern of a climate switch, when looked at one at a time.
You have to present the whole somehow.
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Someone in Toronto actually got officially killed by the hurricane. A
Staples sign blew off the building and hit her. And also someone got
killed fixing the hydro today.
Just to change the topic a bit,
is it bad that I think I'm being very charmed by an officer because of his diligent and neat record-keeping? All 24 entries!
Everything neat and legible. I think I'm in love :P
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I do know the feeling!! Someone used a TARDIS to find out exactly what we would need!! ;D
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I've moved onto the page reporting on daily events. seeing the names
signed by the writers - all ensigns apparently, is just too cute! it's
1942 and you can feel the enthusiasm in their writing.
And right as I click your response, I was thinking how I needed to take a TARDIS trip and meet this ensign.
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Very glad to hear you are OK, Kathy, and hope Carolyn is too, and everyone else on the East coast of the USA and Canada.
According
to the weather forecaster I heard yesterday, we are not going to get
the tail end of Sandy on this side of the Atlantic, and it will blow out
over eastern Canada.
In the meantime it seems my
trick-or-treaters have been put off by a little bit of rain here - looks
like I may have to eat all that chocolate myself! ::) ;D
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I ready for Halloween - but I'm hoping to have leftovers my self! ;D :P
Thanks for the good wishes -
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Already eating my left overs. No one came :(
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That's a shame, Stuart - did your weather get in the way also?
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How did the dentist visit go?
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Halloween has only recently taken of in my little country town of Bowral. (~7000 pop)
My
area (1km out of town) seems to be spasmodic for visits, the years I
get sweets, no visits, when I forget the kids come. Just life I guess.
Missing
one tooth in the head, in 2 weeks time plus one tooth on the
plate. :'( Only two more to go to complete the bottom
set. ;D
My dentist will like me when I finish the sweets. ;D
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It looks like all the regulars on this site made it through Sandy
okay. I visited the HMS Bounty back in the 1980s. Sad loss for the ship
and 2 crew one of whom was a woman named Christian who i understand was a
relative/decendent of the man who lead the mutiny. It should be pointed
out in the periods of the ships we are covering 1800s early 1900s they
did not have weather forcasting. Also radios were first installed in
ships in the early 1900s and during WW I there were many ships that did
not have them. Thats in part why there are quite a few ships that
set sail and disappeared because they ran into a storm. Note I
understand Cape hatteres has been called the graveyard of the Atlantic
and it looks like it claimed another victim.
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Good morning OW, hello November.
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Good morning Caro - yes November has arrived. Have managed without the heating on yet.
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What?! We've had the heating on for a month. ;D
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Well I hope it was warmer down south. I've had it on 'auto' for
about a month. I've only succumbed to 'all day' once and it was 5C
outside.
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Morning OW, damp here again!
Haven't turned my heating on yet - use a nice thick sweater to keep warm.
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I thought I was pretty good at the warm jumpers thing, but I am
sitting here now with the heating on auto and a jumper on. Cant believe
you guys have managed without. Well done.
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I haven't had the central heating on yet, though I have had
a gas fire on in the living room. Sometimes I wonder if this is
false economy - maybe my new condensing boiler would actually be cheaper
running the central heating than the gas fire, which is probably less
energy efficient? If anybody knows the answer I would be
interested to hear - it is only a small house, 2-bedroom bungalow (with
all room doors left open all the time to accommodate the comings and
goings of seven cats!)
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I'm freezing here - we have the heat on auto - I think what I think
is cold/hot is different that a Brit's idea of cold/hot ;D
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Very glad to hear you are OK, Kathy, and hope Carolyn is too, and everyone else on the East coast of the USA and Canada.
According
to the weather forecaster I heard yesterday, we are not going to get
the tail end of Sandy on this side of the Atlantic, and it will blow out
over eastern Canada.
In the meantime it seems my
trick-or-treaters have been put off by a little bit of rain here - looks
like I may have to eat all that chocolate myself! ::) ;D
Thanks, Su--yes we made it through with no power outage. So very grateful...
Carolyn
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Friend sent this with pictures of the storm damage in New York City.
About half way down is a shot of HMS BOUNTY from the Rescue Chopper just before BOUNTY went down!
http://www.theatlantic.com/infocus/2012/10/hurricane-sandy-after-landfall/100396/
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Amazing pictures. Terrifying beauty. :-[
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I haven't had the central
heating on yet, though I have had a gas fire on in the living
room. Sometimes I wonder if this is false economy - maybe my new
condensing boiler would actually be cheaper running the central heating
than the gas fire, which is probably less energy efficient? If
anybody knows the answer I would be interested to hear - it is only a
small house, 2-bedroom bungalow (with all room doors left open all the
time to accommodate the comings and goings of seven cats!)
Could
you set up a rota for a cat or two at a time to sit on your lap to
share their heat with you? That way they would be compensating for
having to leave the doors open!
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That's a good idea, Helen - in theory. Unfortunately, being cats they go where they want to go, when they want to. They are pretty good about being little furry hot water bottles at night though! ;D
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Very glad to hear you are OK, Kathy, and hope Carolyn is too, and everyone else on the East coast of the USA and Canada.
According
to the weather forecaster I heard yesterday, we are not going to get
the tail end of Sandy on this side of the Atlantic, and it will blow out
over eastern Canada.
In the meantime it seems my
trick-or-treaters have been put off by a little bit of rain here - looks
like I may have to eat all that chocolate myself! ::) ;D
Thanks, Su--yes we made it through with no power outage. So very grateful...
Carolyn
Hi Carolyn
Glad to hear you are OK. And good to know that you are still checking in with the Forum now and then!
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I haven't had the central
heating on yet, though I have had a gas fire on in the living
room. Sometimes I wonder if this is false economy - maybe my new
condensing boiler would actually be cheaper running the central heating
than the gas fire, which is probably less energy efficient? If
anybody knows the answer I would be interested to hear - it is only a
small house, 2-bedroom bungalow (with all room doors left open all the
time to accommodate the comings and goings of seven cats!)
I
would tend to imagine that a new boiler would be far more efficient
than the gas fire place if you want/need to heat the whole house. If
just the one room then the fire place is likely better.
Stay warm!!!!
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34c yesterday. ;D
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That is definitely Summer Entering. :)
I only wish us having the same numbers meant the same climate - I woke up this morning to 34f. :'(
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I haven't had the central
heating on yet, though I have had a gas fire on in the living
room. Sometimes I wonder if this is false economy - maybe my new
condensing boiler would actually be cheaper running the central heating
than the gas fire, which is probably less energy efficient? If
anybody knows the answer I would be interested to hear - it is only a
small house, 2-bedroom bungalow (with all room doors left open all the
time to accommodate the comings and goings of seven cats!)
I
would tend to imagine that a new boiler would be far more efficient
than the gas fire place if you want/need to heat the whole house. If
just the one room then the fire place is likely better.
Stay warm!!!!
The intention
would be to heat just one room - only with all the doors having to stay
open, I tend to find I'm heating the whole house! Anyway, it's
academic now as I have given in and put the central heating on!
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Some riveting footage from the Coast Guard helicopter that rescued the crew from the BOUNTY.
http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=UDlc1slA8PA&vq=medium
The
'altitude' call is the radar altimeter warning the pilot he's too low -
with the waves at 20+feet he's trying to hover at 50 and then the
wave comes and he's 'too low' -- he chose to ignore it!
P.I.W. call is Person In Water.
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Have been to a meeting of the South West Maritime History Society
today. One of the talks was from Professor Brian Golding on
"Weather and the Changing Polar Landscape" - very interesting, and he
mentioned the lack of historic data for the Arctic so this was the
perfect opportunity for me to give OW a plug! There was also a
presentation on the sinking of the Titanic from a former captain of the
QE2. The event took place at the Norman Lockyer Observatory near
Sidmouth in Devon - very interesting to see round the place.
Somehow I don't think I'll be taking up astronomy as a hobby as it seems
to involve getting very cold!
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I haven't had the central
heating on yet, though I have had a gas fire on in the living
room. Sometimes I wonder if this is false economy - maybe my new
condensing boiler would actually be cheaper running the central heating
than the gas fire, which is probably less energy efficient? If
anybody knows the answer I would be interested to hear - it is only a
small house, 2-bedroom bungalow (with all room doors left open all the
time to accommodate the comings and goings of seven cats!)
I
would tend to imagine that a new boiler would be far more efficient
than the gas fire place if you want/need to heat the whole house. If
just the one room then the fire place is likely better.
Stay warm!!!!
The intention
would be to heat just one room - only with all the doors having to stay
open, I tend to find I'm heating the whole house! Anyway, it's
academic now as I have given in and put the central heating on!
Maybe you need to install cat doors in your doors ;)
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I haven't had the central
heating on yet, though I have had a gas fire on in the living
room. Sometimes I wonder if this is false economy - maybe my new
condensing boiler would actually be cheaper running the central heating
than the gas fire, which is probably less energy efficient? If
anybody knows the answer I would be interested to hear - it is only a
small house, 2-bedroom bungalow (with all room doors left open all the
time to accommodate the comings and goings of seven cats!)
I
would tend to imagine that a new boiler would be far more efficient
than the gas fire place if you want/need to heat the whole house. If
just the one room then the fire place is likely better.
Stay warm!!!!
The intention
would be to heat just one room - only with all the doors having to stay
open, I tend to find I'm heating the whole house! Anyway, it's
academic now as I have given in and put the central heating on!
Maybe you need to install cat doors in your doors ;)
I'd never get any sleep with seven cats clattering through cat flaps all night!
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Good morning OW. Cold, dark, rainy ... >:(
Sadly, only two cats to keep me warm, when it pleases them.
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Morning OW and Caro - lots of rain here as well but still mild.
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Back to standard time in Canada and the US - an extra hour to do OW ;D
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Soggy Sunday here in Oxfordshire, very gloopy sky. :(
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Gloopy - is that one of our cloud types - Perhaps cumulo gloopus?
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Gloopy - is that one of our cloud types - Perhaps cumulo gloopus?
Yes - but when it rains it's cumulonimbus gloopus ;D ;D
(the
clouds look thick and menacing like a gloopy sauce, more serious than
just gloomy -I suppose this might just be a local word? :-\ ;))
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I haven't heard it before, Joan, but it is very descriptive. I grew up in Vancouver and it was often gloopy.
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I'm looking at the same skies, and gloopy is definitely a good word
for them. I'm hoping it stops before too long so the roads can
emerge from under water before I have to set off back to college this
evening.
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At sea standing off and on.
Is this some sort of JC act?
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Concord/vol011of040/vol011of040_117_0.jpg
(http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Concord/vol011of040/vol011of040_117_0.jpg)
Also for whom ever, part page weather readings obscured, have put ~ in place.
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It sounds like an extremely upsetting day - they started doing
complex exercises under the eye of an admiral, and ended up with burst
steam pipes and one man dead. And so many notes, they had to
complete the day on an insert.
And I have no idea what "standing off and on" means.
Can
you splice the 2 halves of the insert together to transcribe the
whole? Or would you like me to come up with something?
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Another was found dead later. :(
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To stand off and on (Naut.), to remain near a coast by sailing toward land and then from it.
Good morning all.
Yesterday's APOD was spectacular: http://apod.nasa.gov/apod/ap121104.html
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We had snow yesterday morning. About an inch and it stayed all day
in shadows out of the sun. I was out shaking the snow off my fruit cage
at 8am, to avoid the weight damaging the poles or nets. So much for a
sunday lie in!!
Looking better this morning though.
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To stand off and on (Naut.), to remain near a coast by sailing toward land and then from it.
Good morning all.
Yesterday's APOD was spectacular: http://apod.nasa.gov/apod/ap121104.html
Like tacking?
They had no engine at one point due to the Steam pipe explosion.
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Yesterday's APOD was spectacular: http://apod.nasa.gov/apod/ap121104.html
Wow! Beautiful photo.
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To stand off and on (Naut.), to remain near a coast by sailing toward land and then from it.
Good morning all.
Yesterday's APOD was spectacular: http://apod.nasa.gov/apod/ap121104.html
Like tacking?
They had no engine at one point due to the Steam pipe explosion.
It
may include tacking. If you follow any of the 'old' naval stuff
(Hornblower, Nelson, 'Master and Commander,' etc.) the British and /or
the French would 'blockade' the other's ships in harbour to keep them
there. It entailed in some cases MONTHS of just sailing back and forth
off shore to keep the enemy bottled up. That was considered 'standing
off and on' to the shore. ;)
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Good morning OW. Clear sky. Cold!
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Up here it is warmer but the downside is cloud, rain will move in later in the week.
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I buckled...with the imminent arrival of this arctic blast I put the
heating on to stop my pipes from exploding after a freeze-up.
Only 3 hours a day (one of the benefits of working).
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Ah that the secret of course. I work from home most of the time, so
have no relief from the cold most of the time. There is a limit to the
number of pairs of gloves that can be worn and still allow accurate
typing!!
Nice warm day in the office in a very damp Edinburgh today though.
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Sympathies Keith, sympathies... :-*
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Ah
that the secret of course. I work from home most of the time, so have
no relief from the cold most of the time. There is a limit to the number
of pairs of gloves that can be worn and still allow accurate typing!!
Nice warm day in the office in a very damp Edinburgh today though.
I'm
not sure if you are interested but if there is a 'boating store' near
you you can get '3/4 length sailing gloves .' Covers the hands but
leaves the fingers free from about the last knuckle down. Would let you
keep warm AND type! (Now THAT's 'addicted!') :D
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Didn't win the $111 Mil in Oz Lotto. :(
Looks like it's back to work. (Volunteer work) ;D
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Didn't win the $111 Mil in Oz Lotto. :(
Looks like it's back to work. (Volunteer work) ;D
Bad luck :( better luck next time
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Didn't win the $111 Mil in Oz Lotto. :(
Looks like it's back to work. (Volunteer work) ;D
For me, a little less,(~15M$) but I still have hope of winning ;D
Today is lottery.
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I hope you won, szukacz.
$15m would be OK. :D
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We have a 'Lottery' in the USA today . It's called ' Election Day !' :P ::) :-\
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Yes, publicity people and TV companies win millions :P
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FYI - in the US elections as of 1:20am Wednesday in Chicago, Obama
has won a second term as President by holding either 56% or 62% of the
electoral college, depending on how Florida votes - that state, with 97%
of the votes counted, is still too close to call.
The total popular vote is a long way from being completely counted, but Obama is currently leading by less than 0.5%.
Definitely
a crazy system, but it works to give the small states power - the tiny
District of Columbia holds the same number of votes as Alaska, 3 votes
each.
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But it is population, not size ;)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._states_and_territories_by_population - and electoral votes
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._states_by_population_density
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When it is the people voicing their opinions, real estate is meaningless. ;D
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Good morning Old Weather.
It was an interesting night.
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Morning OW, lovely sunny morning here :)
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Hi Geoff. A big old fog just moved in down here. Goodbye sunshine.
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Ah
that the secret of course. I work from home most of the time, so have
no relief from the cold most of the time. There is a limit to the number
of pairs of gloves that can be worn and still allow accurate typing!!
Nice warm day in the office in a very damp Edinburgh today though.
I'm
not sure if you are interested but if there is a 'boating store' near
you you can get '3/4 length sailing gloves .' Covers the hands but
leaves the fingers free from about the last knuckle down. Would let you
keep warm AND type! (Now THAT's 'addicted!') :D
Thanks
Dean. I am actually wearing fingerless gloves to type this! Just
ordinary knitted ones, rather than smart sailing ones, but I often put
them on for a few minutes, while the central heating is starting up.
Sadly the addiction is to work and financial survival rather than just to OW etc.
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Thanks
Dean. I am actually wearing fingerless gloves to type this! Just
ordinary knitted ones, rather than smart sailing ones, but I often put
them on for a few minutes, while the central heating is starting up.
Sadly the addiction is to work and financial survival rather than just to OW etc.
Been there, done that, scars and T Shirt to prove it!! I feel your pain!! ;)
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More on Hurricane Sandy. Truly staggering!!
Here are the 'numbers.' http://cocorahs.blogspot.com/
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A truly deadly storm.
May all the lost victims rest in peace.
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Cooking for two now. :)
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I'm glad she's home.
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yes - very glad she is home!
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yes - great news....happy for you both :-*
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ditto ;D
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Thank you.
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Good morning all.
That's good news, Stuart.
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Great News!!!!! Hope things stay well!! :D :D :D
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Have you seen the Google Doodle for today? It's Bram Stoker's birthday. :)
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Shame he's dead - we could have gone out for a BITE to eat, we could
have spent time HANGING out together. He's not the sort of person to
ever get in a FLAP.
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:o ;D
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I will throw this one out there to see where it lies.
With 24 readings per day on some ships, can it be justified to wait till we have 3 sets of entries on those ships.
My
reasoning is that with one set of reading one would expect the error
rate to be insignificant in the overall picture compared to ships which
only have 3 or 6 per day when predicting a trend.
What do the boffins say please.
Yes I do know they want all 24 BUT can I have their comment on my question.
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I am thinking about this (reducing the number of entries per ship).
This would reduce the quality of the data we are producing (we would
miss a lot more observations, or get them wrong), but the effect on some
of the downstream products (climate reanalyses) would be modest. So
arguably if we switched to a more quick-and-dirty transcription process
we could get more science done for the same effort.
But in the
past, when people have decided to go for cheap and fast, we've ended up
regretting it. Our current collection of historical weather
observations, many of which were digitised decades ago, is littered with
problems because of such decisions. For example:
1) Many
historical observations have no ship-name attached (just position, date,
temperature etc.) - they saw no need for that detail, but we now regret
it, as without the ship name we can't make good bias assessments.
2)
Often they digitised only temperatures (no pressures, wind etc.) That
was what they wanted at the time, but it's not what we need now, so
we're going to have to go back and do their work again.
3)
They've also decided to record only one observation/day, or only one
observation in each 1-degree square region of the ocean, or only take
observations when the ship is at sea, or only take observations when the
ship is in port, or ...
I'm sure each of these decisions made
perfect sense when the original work was being done, but now, decades
later, they are a terrible nusiance - greatly reducing the value of the
original work. I've made this mistake myself - when we transcribed a
batch of data from English-East-India Company records we should have
captured both observed and dead-reckoning longitudes (it was a period
when the chronometer was just coming into standard use), but we didn't,
and I've been kicking myself ever since.
It's not a no-brainer,
and we do need to keep it under review, but at the moment I think we
need to capture as much as possible, to high accuracy. We are building a
long-term public asset: It is likely our results will still be in
active use in 100-years time, so I think it would be a mistake to
optimise too precisely on our current requirements. At the moment I'd
like to keep capturing every observation, and to do each page
three-times (necessary to meet the 99% accuracy standard for quality
transcription).
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Apart from the scientific discussion, my experience whilst transcribing is that 24 observations is no problem at all.
It takes me between 5 and 10 minutes to transcribe a page.
Much more time goes into transcribing the other page.
Those notes can sometimes take up to an hour.
So my personal conclusion would be, if you want to win time, don't transcribe the notes. :(
Having said that, I will transcribe the notes.
This is where the fun of transcribing comes in, because the notes can take your imagination on a trip.
Compared to the notes, the weather reports are just plain boring. ;)
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I balked at first to the prospect of capturing 24 lines per page but
in the beginning it was very demanding because of the slanted log pages
and not being able to use dittos. With the interface improvements and
restoring the automatic completion in Foxfire I don't mind so much now.
The deciding factor will probably be how many volunteers are willing to
do this. It would be interesting to me to have some statistics on how
many people are actively transcribing now, compared to when we were
finishing the RN ships?
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Pioneer has just recently begun to have 24 records per page, and
that's fine - it's good to be actually capturing some weather after
several months with very little!
I suspect some people who looked at
the US fleet while it was still very much in the test phase may have
been put off by the various problems, but I should think that with all
the recent publicity and the system pretty much debugged we ought to
pick up new transcribers pretty steadily.
I do very much sympathise
with Philip's desire to capture all available information now - going
back is always going to be much harder, and may not be possible at
all. If that means the fleet takes longer to complete - well that
will give the scientists longer to get the next fleet ready to
launch!
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I think the scanners are hoping for that - our record to date is to more than halve the expected times of preparation. ;D
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I
balked at first to the prospect of capturing 24 lines per page but in
the beginning it was very demanding because of the slanted log pages and
not being able to use dittos. With the interface improvements and
restoring the automatic completion in Foxfire I don't mind so much now.
The deciding factor will probably be how many volunteers are willing to
do this. It would be interesting to me to have some statistics on how
many people are actively transcribing now, compared to when we were
finishing the RN ships?
Hi
Craig, I don't think anything could count fast enough to track our
transcription at the end of PhII. Blink and you'd missed us.
I've
just started to keep a brief and rather rough log of how we are doing
now x transcriptions/new folk. My main concern being that we should
ensure that the first ship folks come to (if they just can't wait to get
going) is certainly not our easiest...ie. they find The Rush, there are
easier boats. In addition, I had hoped that the transcription section
choose-a-vessel pages would have had a good reference back to the forum
pages that we've set up in the Dockyard - perhaps this is still coming -
but sooner would be very advisable.
J ;D
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Thanks all for your comments.
I put them out to try and find a way to increase our population of transcribers and provide data to Phillips crew sooner.
I was thinking of two runs through the 24 entry pages, whilst not the 99%, surely that must give quite accurate data.
Like
Craig, I am interested in the number of active transcribers. With a
quick look at the input to the ships over a short time I think some
ships have now only 1 or 2 active transcribers and I wondered if
the 24 entries were to many and putting newbies off.
I don't care 3/6/24 it's the same to me but we do look like we need more CONTINUING workers.
Misc pages, I am doing crew data (and other stuff) for (I hope) use by people finding out about their family tree.
I will try Firefox again today to see what has changed.
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:)
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OK - I found my record of transcribers from 25th Oct (so 14/15 days
ago). Bear in mind that I can only access the details shown on the
ship's page - some boats just say 'and 89 more...' and I have no idea of
what is going on there - but given that the last of the top twelve is a
fairly low transcriber, the 89 will be relatively low contributors.
Over
2 weeks we've gained about 36 new transcribers... again this is rather
rough as a figure. And can I just say 'welcome' to those good
folk.
based on the details shown for the top twelve transcribers
over the last two weeks the following are the numbers of transcriptions per boat per week.
Bear 3269
Rush 1381
Rodgers 408
Concord 2707
Pioneer 530
Vicksburg 1555
Yorktown 497
Patterson 457
Unalga 1244
Yukon 730
I
hope that I have the figs from last week so that I can show some upward
progress over those two weeks. I'm sure it's low compared to the
frenetic end of PhII, but I wonder if it reflects life at the start of
PhI?
Also bear in mind how much time we've spent setting up the new sections in the forum.
J 8)
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You have to remember that we lost all but the editors and
forum-member diehards, simply because 10 weeks is too long to
wait. I'm hoping that if the PTB send out a newsletter next month
telling all the old hands that the P3 interface is completely rewritten
(not true until this week) that quite a few will come back.
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Absolutely agreed Janet. I can imagine that quite a few are
finishing editing a boat for Gordon...I'm struggling to fit in a fair
amount of time for everyone...the poor Acacia's had about an hour this
week. Never mind, I'll be doing homework with my god-daughter tomorrow
afternoon (via skype would you believe ::)) so perhaps I'll give
her some time then.
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I think your god-daughter is lucky in her parents choice of god-parents. :)
This
week is the first time in a long time it is fun to experience all the
ships for a bit. So now's the time to put out bait to lure back
all the ones who tried the beta-version.
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Yes - this week there were quiet moments when we were all hard at
the job at hand..it felt very nice. It was great to see boards like
'lost overboard' coming alive again. ;) :D
Oh well - time for zzzzzzzzzzzz
Sweet dreams when you get to them on your clock!
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Sleep well, on that side of the pond. :)
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Re: Transcribing and ships. I WILL try to get back to
the transcribing. ::) I've been watching your 'issues' and tried to
'stay away' so as not to 'mess it up further!' ;)
Also it's been a
bit hectic around here with family, boats needing put away (I'm the
Club haul out crew lead), AND M25 took WAY more time to edit
than I had spent on M23 & M24! I'm on Empress of Britain
right now and SHE'S been a 'bear' too! LOTS of stuff and long,
detailed, complicated logs. I'm making headway - just not as fast as I'd
like! :P
Hope to get back to transcribing soon AND be able to edit at the same time. ;D
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As of last Friday, the interface is comfortable. Give it a try. :)
(New ships are very flexible as to what they ask to be done. Just to keep our lives interesting. ;) )
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Afternoon all - having read all this I'm now feeling guilty because
I've been neglecting my editing in favour of transcribing ....
Addiction is a terrible thing! ;D Perhaps this weekend I'll
get back onto Andes and get her a little further forward, now that
Pioneer has actually set off and life is pretty straightforward. No one
can leave suddenly now they're in mid ocean, or overstay their leave
....
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On the other hand - I've been feeling guilty about only editing and not doing any transcribing ::)
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the 2 of you seem to be in good balance. ;)
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The way I transcribed & edit doesn't fit that well with Phase
III. I often spend 10-15 min while I'm having a cuppa and I might
just about manage a weather page but an events page just wouldn't work
for me and I don't know if I can 'hold' a page for a few hours until I
go back. So, at the moment, Gordon has my services. Maybe
over the Christmas hols I'll dip into Phase III and see what happens.
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Hi Studentforever. The record of events pages in PhIII mostly have a
long winded version of the weather report in them in my experience so
far. I transcribe far less on these boats than the RN.
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Luckily the Yorktown is much more interesting.
Thus far we've
attended the centennial inauguration celebrations in New York, where we
still are, because at the moment we are installing new 6" B.L.R. Mark
III guns.
In the mean time many hands received a new rating, had a
long list of AWAL persons and a couple of court martial and other
disciplinary actions .
Also long lists of supplies has arrived, e.g. foods, carpentry tools, navigational tools, ordnance stuff and much, much more.
And this is roughly only the first month I have been on board.
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On 1942 Unalga, they not only identify the exact stores coming
aboard, they give the vendor name and bill of lading number. And
new crew joining the ship list the date of the authorization letter that
sends them there.
I'm not sure if the they have an OCD captain demanding that much detail, or very bored logkeepers. ;D
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Trust me to find the boring one...still it's been a very warm trip
to Madeira so far, a few bright star-lit nights, and a few ships sighted
including (in this US-presidentially interesting week) one called the
Clintonia.
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Hi,
Many of you will have seen this photograph of the replica of
HMS Bounty sinking. To me it is awesomely beautiful and a terrifying
reminder of the power of the sea and what many of the men and ships went
through, whose lives we are touching on in Old Weather and other areas
of naval history. I have added the image to the introduction to Old
Weather at http://www.naval-history.net/. You can click on for the
larger image. Not only an old "HM Ship", but a US Coast Guard photo.
Shades of HMS Active and the Greely Rescue mission.
Gordon
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Thought I'd try the larger image. Just stare and imagine!
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That is seriously scary - it looks as though the sea is reaching out to grab the ship and drag it under ....
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What was that captain up to? Anyone know when the inquest is
due? I guess they'll open it then adjourn until all information is in.
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Brings back memories of friends and colleagues - some lost
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bark_Marques), some plucked from the water
by Coast Guard or Air Force para-rescue teams. All too often some human
foolishness (as in pretty much always) is to blame.
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Sorry to hear of your losses Kevin. Yes - foolishness. I still
remember that Fastnet race when too many paid the ultimate price just
for a yachting race. I think it was 1979.
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Sorry
to hear of your losses Kevin. Yes - foolishness. I still remember
that Fastnet race when too many paid the ultimate price just for a
yachting race. I think it was 1979.
It
was 1979. there is a fantastic book written by John Rousmaniere about
the race titled Fastnet Force10. He was on one of the ships.
I just finished rereading it. Enjoy!!
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Good morning all. Clear skies and frost here.
LEST WE FORGET
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It
was 1979. there is a fantastic book written by John Rousmaniere about
the race. he was on one of the ships. I just finished rereading
it. Enjoy!!
I might well do that Dean - thanks!
J
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The anniversary of a later day shipwreck - 10 November 1975 - Great Lakes - USA.
The Edmund Fitzgerald - wreck made 'famous' by Canadian singer Gordon Lightfoot.
Here is a link to a short story and the weather behind it. Interesting reading: http://cocorahs.blogspot.com/
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Yes -
LEST WE FORGET
We never will -
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Poppies
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I have received a request from another cooperative institute
scientist for reports of bioluminescence aka phosphorus in the ocean
(may also be reported as 'milky seas'). Does this sound familiar from
Ph1-2, or anything like this seen with current ships yet?
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Hi Kevin -
There were some reports in the P1/2 ships - check
in the Natural Phenomena thread, also, the Riveting Log Entries
thread. Here is one:
Avoca - 9 Oct 1917 - 8:00pm position 16 12S, 74 37W
10:00pm to 10:30pm Water extremely phosphorescent.
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I
have received a request from another cooperative institute scientist
for reports of bioluminescence aka phosphorus in the ocean (may also be
reported as 'milky seas'). Does this sound familiar from Ph1-2, or
anything like this seen with current ships yet?
Kevin
Do you want that in Events and / or in the Natural Phenomena topic?
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Good morning all.
A quick search for 'phosphorescence' and 'phosphorescent' on Naval History ...
HMS Laconia, armed merchant cruiser, World War 1
11.0pm:
Brilliant phosphorescence in sea. 4caf8793cadfd3419701b930: (http://
oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ADM_53-45876/ADM 53-45876-008_1.jpg) ...
www.naval-history.net/OWShips-WW1-08Laconia.htm
HMS Newcastle, light cruiser - British Warships of World War 1
3
on sick list. Passed through Abnormal Phosphorescence. ... 4.50 am
Passed out of Phosphorescence. 3 on sick ...... 7.30 pm Extraordinary
phosphorescence ...
www.naval-history.net/OWShips-WW1-06Newcastle1.htm
HMS Swiftsure, battleship - British warships of World War 1
Other:
passed through large area of lightly phosphorescent water milky white
colour. Extent 10 square miles. Other: Passed through large area of
highly ...
www.naval-history.net/OWShips-WW1-01Swiftsure.htm
HMS Avoca, armed merchant cruiser - British warships of World War 1
Jun
24, 2012... Discharged one rating from collier to HMS Lancaster. 1.20
pm: Anchor aweigh 10.00 pm: Water extremely phosphorescent until 10.30
pm ...
www.naval-history.net/OWShips-WW1-08Avoca2.htm
British Warships of World War 1
3.00am:
Sea strongly phosphorescent. Southwesterly swell. 12:20pm: Entered
tropics. 7.14pm: Came to with starboard anchor in 7 fathoms, veered to 6
...
www.naval-history.net/OWShips-WW1-01Albion.htm
HMS Cornwall, armoured cruiser - British warships of World War 1
Ship:
Sighted: H.M.S. Defence. Ship: Met: Carnorvon. Ship: Met: Defence.
Other: Abnormal Phosphorescence all night. Ship: Sighted: HMS Carnarvon:
Ahead ...
www.naval-history.net/OWShips-WW1-05Cornwall1.htm
HMS Avoca, armed merchant cruiser - British warships of World War 1
Jul
29, 2012 ... 2.30 am: Extreme phosphorescence throughout watch. 10.30
am: Commenced to zigzag. 11.05 pm: Fire Island Light Vessel N22W. 11.20
pm: ...
www.naval-history.net/OWShips-WW1-08Avoca3.htm
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Hi Caro,
here is one more entry :)
I am editing HMS Alsatian
and her Navigating Officer reported "Exceptional phosphorescence
throughout watch", logged just before Midnight, October 6th, 1915:
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ADM53-33379/ADM53-33379-133_0.jpg
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Thank you Silvia.
The chances of our log keepers misspelling
phosphorescence must be fairly high, so there are probably more that
didn't show up in my simple search. ;D
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Hello OW.
Here is today's email offer from an airline that shall remain nameless:
'7 nights in the Indian Ocean from [pounds]699 per person'.
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HI Caro. Finally, something for the ultra morbidly obese, unless that's pounds sterling :D
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'in the Indian Ocean' - Hmmmm....bit wet! Still - I suppose it saves
on washing sheets...and no doubt comes with a sea view and a free shark
safari. :o ::) ;D
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;D
The question is where are the days spent ;D
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You float some and then you jet some ;D
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You'd be able to give an accurate answer to how's the water ;D :P
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Hello OW.
Here is today's email offer from an airline that shall remain nameless:
'7 nights in the Indian Ocean from [pounds]699 per person'.
I
just spend a whole month in the Indian Ocean for free, courtesy of HMS
Odin and her last journey from Aden to Columbo via the East Coast of
Africa, Mauritius and the Seychelles.
Didnt get much of a sun tan, but otherwise wonderful!!
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You float some and then you jet some ;D
:P :P :P
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You float some and then you jet some ;D
:P :P :P
Yep - I'll add a groan to that one...very clever Craig ;D 8)
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Craig, stop pinching my tired old lines (but good one ;D )
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Old Weather: Old jokes :D
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:P :P :P :P :P
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Good morning comedians and others. ;D
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Good evening Caro.
(Signed)
Other
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Good evening Caro.
(Signed)
Other
Good morning all!
AnOTHER other. ;D
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Me too :)
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Oh no, there are no OTHERS here -
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I just love this-
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That's good!
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I have some miscellaneous stuff: If you want to know what the real
HMS Bounty look like there is the Anatomy of the ship armed transport
bounty. Which has the scale plans for this ship ect.
There is a WW I
sea film due out in january 2013 Der Manner Die Emden about the WW I
German raider which some of the HM ships we have done the logs of chased
after. I got this from the Axis history forums WW I section. Which has a
film clip of it. Sadly the movie is in german but judging by the clip
it looks pretty good. Also in 2013 I think there is a remake of "All
Quite on the Western Front" in the works.
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Thanks James - I should imagine they'll have subtitles on the film :)
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Nice halo around the sun today :) , and a con trail. Halo does not show up well enlarged.
Poured down last night at the Sydney Swings outdoors concert. :( (Pics to follow.)
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Checking the aerodrome.com Der Manner Die Emden is going to released
with subtitles as "Odessey of Heros" . It has a youtube film clip with
subtitles. Also on youtube there are documentaries on this ship Emden
(English) and S.M.S. Emden (German). On the ships and battles (sic) This
ship sank the Russian cruiser Zhemchug.
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I know the name Zemchug - but can't think why... :-\
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Hello OW. Nice sunny morning.
Zemchug (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_cruiser_Zhemchug).
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Great to see the sun after yesterday's gloom...
Still can't think of why I know Zemchug, but what a crazy end. ::)
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I remember reading about that in the forum some time back - maybe that is what you are thinking of?
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Ah- might well be. It's certainly linked to OW in my mind.
Right back to work - only got til midday then it's housework :( :(
:( :( ::))
Good morning!
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Good morning OW.
(http://wa3.cdn.3news.co.nz/3news/AM/2012/11/19/277251/waterspout-1200.jpg?width=460)
Waterspout off Bateman's Bay, NSW, Australia, Sunday afternoon. :o
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Good morning Caro.
Scarey!
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WOW
Looks almost unreal - like a man-made column.
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Looks like a tornado, only white with water instead of black with
dirt. I'm just thankful I live where neither tends to get very
big.
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But great picture! :o
Shock! :-X :-\
Pommystuart, you hold a very tight cap! 8)
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We get them here on Lake Ontario sometimes in the summer, but thankfully not that BIG!! :o
Forecast of those is enough to send me sailing hard toward shore!! (Or keep me from going OUT in the first place!) ;)
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But great picture! :o
Shock! :-X :-\
Pommystuart, you hold a very tight cap! 8)
We have had a couple in the last few years, they getting old hat ;)
Mind you that was a ripper. I am about 150km N x E from that part of the coast.
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Good morning OW.
(http://wa3.cdn.3news.co.nz/3news/AM/2012/11/19/277251/waterspout-1200.jpg?width=460)
Waterspout off Bateman's Bay, NSW, Australia, Sunday afternoon. :o
The
video of that waterspout has made the local news here in Niagara Falls,
NY - AND the National News in the US! Truly spectacular!!!! :)
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Hello again OW.
I'm not surprised that waterspout made the news in the US and elsewhere, Dean.
It was a monster.
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HAD to share this with all of my 'Computer Friends!' ....
On a cold winter morning a woman texts her husband-----
"Windows frozen."
Husband texts back: "Pour some lukewarm water over it."
Wife texts back 5 minutes later:
"Computer completely screwed up now." ::) ::) ::)
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;D ;D ;D
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Good morning all.
Today's picture comes from Captain's Bay, Alaska.
It was uploaded by joealaska to wunderground.com.
(http://icons-ak.wunderground.com/data/wximagenew/j/joealaska/6339-800.jpg)
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marvel :D
Already the snow ...
Time slows down and begins to pull... ;)
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Beautiful picture, Caro!
Here's a partial glimpse of one of
the people doing the scanning
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USCS%20Yukon/Book%202/IMG_4170_0.jpg.
;D
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;D
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The page partially obscured by the scanner's hand was duplicated
(along with the page that followed). I didn't notice and transcribed it
again, which was fortunate.
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The
page partially obscured by the scanner's hand was duplicated (along
with the page that followed). I didn't notice and transcribed it again,
which was fortunate.
Any
time there's a block like that, I'd check the JPEG link and walk it up
one to check the next. Unlike the RN, these scanners are willing
to give us a redo, so it's worth looking for.
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It is redone in the very next image ;)
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USCS%20Yukon/Book%202/IMG_4171_0.jpg
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It is redone in the very next image ;)
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USCS%20Yukon/Book%202/IMG_4171_0.jpg
That's what I was trying to say in my last message. I did transribe it.
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Good morning OW and happy Thanksgiving to all of you over there. :D
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And there is much to be thankful for. You all everywhere, have a beautiful day and give thanks for life. :)
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Happy Thanksgiving to all. ;)
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;D ;D ;D
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Happy Thanksgiving to all on the other side of the pond!
Meanwhile, back in the UK, does anyone know how to build an ark, as I think I might be needing one very soon!
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Happy Thanksgiving to all our American friends ! ;D
And let the rest of us be thankful too for everything that is good ! ;D
As for the ark building, sorry, not much use from me ! Where is Noah's email when you need it ???? ;)
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Happy Thanksgiving to all on the other side of the pond!
Meanwhile, back in the UK, does anyone know how to build an ark, as I think I might be needing one very soon!
It
got to Oxford about 10 ins before I got home. I had a big brolly - but
the wind's the very devil tonight. I fumbled to get my door key out and
in that minute, with my back to the rain, my britches got soaked through
- charming!
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Good morning all.
There seems to be a break in the UK's bad weather today.
I hope that those of you in the flood-affected areas are OK.
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Happy Thanksgiving to all on the other side of the pond!
Meanwhile, back in the UK, does anyone know how to build an ark, as I think I might be needing one very soon!
Let's see... it's 300 cubits by 80 cubits....... 'What's a Cubit?!'.....(See OLD Bill Cosby skit about God.) ;)
http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=so9o3_daDZw ;D ;D ;D
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A very long time ago, I saw a TV documentary about the
sea-worthiness of the ark. They built a model to the exact
specifications in Genesis, and then put it in a university's wave
tank.
The ark is a tub. No one has ever seen a
working ship shaped like that because it has virtually no steer-ability
and has the speed-through-water ability of a square barge.
It is also an unsinkable tub. The worst waves they could generate failed to capsize it, no matter how hard they tried.
If you are looking for commuting help, I suggest a different kind of boat. ;) ;D
That Bill Cosby skit is a classic, which will probably be around for centuries. I love it. :)
http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=so9o3_daDZw
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For AvastMH and Randi go to the Ships battle and peoples section to
the posting on 9 jun 2012 for the posting on the Zhemchug. Her loss was
not the tsarist navy's finest hour. The SMS Emden's wiki bio also has 60
Chinese prostitutes on board the Zhemchug when the ship was attacked
and sunk. Also note on archives.org there are Hellmuth Von Mucke's books
"The Emden" and "The Ayesha"
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Two of my non-OW volunteer jobs involve pricing books for sale by a
couple of charities. Today, I came across two books by Cutler &
Cutler 'Dictionary of Naval Terms' and 'Dictionary of Naval
Abbreviations'. I think I'll hang on to these books in the hope
that they will be useful at some stage in the OW transcriptions and
Naval History editing.
The down-side is that both books have a
modern focus (published 2005) and both are very US Navy-centric.
For example I have yet to come across the abbreviation
NAVRECONTECHSUPPCENLANT (for 'Naval Reconnaissance and Technical Support
Centre, Atlantic') in OW, although I am sure that it is only a matter
of time. I am also looking forward to a sequel by Cutler &
Cutler, pehaps titled 'Dictionary of Abbreviations of Naval
Abbreviations'
::) ???
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;D Hello Howard, hello OW.
I'm sure those books will be handy for something, some day.
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Two
of my non-OW volunteer jobs involve pricing books for sale by a couple
of charities. Today, I came across two books by Cutler & Cutler
'Dictionary of Naval Terms' and 'Dictionary of Naval
Abbreviations'. I think I'll hang on to these books in the hope
that they will be useful at some stage in the OW transcriptions and
Naval History editing.
The down-side is that both books have a
modern focus (published 2005) and both are very US Navy-centric.
For example I have yet to come across the abbreviation
NAVRECONTECHSUPPCENLANT (for 'Naval Reconnaissance and Technical Support
Centre, Atlantic') in OW, although I am sure that it is only a matter
of time. I am also looking forward to a sequel by Cutler &
Cutler, pehaps titled 'Dictionary of Abbreviations of Naval
Abbreviations'
::) ???
Blame it on the American love of acronyms. ;D
Kevin
sent me a 1928 edition of a Sea Term Dictionary by A.Ansted that is
proving very helpful. Anyone can ask me to look stuff up, maybe
its on Google Books. But it's nice to use when transcribing
"ship's course was full and by" last night. (Sailing with the wind
ahead of the beam.)
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Hi all -
hope every one is doing ok -
Went to see Lincoln yesterday -WHAT AN AMAZINGLY GOOD MOVIE!!!
I
don't think I have ever heard a theater so quiet - except for the
sniffling - I cried the whole last 30 minutes - I highly recommend this
movie.
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So did I, yesterday. One of the best movies I've ever seen -
very real and historical, I think. The first time I ever
went into an early matinee to find it completely full, and
spontaneous applause at the end! that never happens.
Such a
real portrayal of the politics needed to do the only right and
honorable thing. I alternately loved and hated what they were
doing.
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Sailing full and by - that is sailing as close to the wind as
possible - sometimes leads to being 'taken aback' a term now in common
usage in English which means a (usually unfortunate) surprise. On a
square-rigged sailing ship 'taken aback' means getting the wind on the
wrong side of the sails, which forces a sudden tack at best or sometimes
much worse consequences - all unfortunate surprises. Usually when
sailing full & by and braced sharp the helmsman steers not by the
compass but by the luff of the uppermost sail on the foremast. This sail
will luff (curl a bit to flapping noisily) first, thus giving a warning
to ease the helm. Of course a marked wind shift, say when a cold front
passes, can also result in being taken aback.
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Good morning OW.
The 1898 edition of A. Ansted's 'A Dictionary of
Sea Terms' is now available at a Helpful Links
(http://forum.oldweather.org/index.php?topic=1054.msg56565#msg56565)
near you. :)
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Looks interesting
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For all my British friends I offer the following:
http://www.youtube.com/embed/ik9AtJQXaHQ?rel=0
Please stand before clicking! ;)
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8) 8)
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(http://bravellir.com/gallery/d/6856-1/salute.gif)
(http://www.animatedgif.net/miscellaneous/bdcannon_e0.gif)
;D
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;D ;D ;D ;D
At least they got the tune right - they didn't in the Olympics ::)
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There is a place just across the border in Niagara On The Lake,
Canada where they have Band Concerts on the lawn Sunday afternoon.
They always start with 'God Save the Queen' and when we take American
friends they often say - 'How nice they play for us first!'
I sometimes haven't the heart to tell them...... :-[
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Has anyone else ended up with a visitor survey popping up when they select 'unread topics'? :-\
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Nope - your comment is a first. I'll ask the PTB if this is happening by invitation or not.
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Oldweather.org has not authored, participated in, or in any way reviewed
this advertisement or authorized it.
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Well, the PTB now know they tried to invade - I don't know if
evicting them will be as easy as evicting a posting spammer, but I hope
so.
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Well,
the PTB now know they tried to invade - I don't know if evicting them
will be as easy as evicting a posting spammer, but I hope so.
I'm
right with you on that one Janet. I thought I was imagining it
for a start because the first two times it came up it didn't have 'Old
Weather' on it - but the third time it had learnt - insidious beastie.
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Well,
the PTB now know they tried to invade - I don't know if evicting them
will be as easy as evicting a posting spammer, but I hope so.
I'm
right with you on that one Janet. I thought I was imagining it
for a start because the first two times it came up it didn't have 'Old
Weather' on it - but the third time it had learnt - insidious beastie.
I
sent you the PM conversation with Arfon - he suggests it could be
malware on your machine, they are sneaky enough to borrow other sites'
names.
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Malware. Got the little bu__er >:( >:( >:(.
HA! ;D It turned out to be a program called Yontoo.
If anyone else gets it speak to me..but a google of yontoo will get you
the answer anyway. I've uninstalled it - and would like to do the
same to its inventor. Grrrr!
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I'm glad you found it. I sent you the name of a decent
anti-malware program email, but I'm glad you found it sooner than that.
:)
I did remind me, it's been 6 weeks since I ran a check.
Which I will do, although I rarely surf outside known safe sites. :)
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It's a constant old business isn't it Janet - the fight against internet misery.
It
provoked me to ditch babylon search (and what a fandango that
was >:()- which I'm pretty sure was the source of the trouble
in the first place. I loaded it by accident one day a couple of months
back...what a mistake ::)
Good luck with your scan!
J :-*
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My scan came out negative. Historically, that's what happens
to me until I wander into a VERY BAD SITE and pick up several all at
once.
I just don't go surfing in strange places for amusement very often, I guess. :)
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And that's a good idea. I don't go to unpleasant or worrysome sites
either. That program came in when I was re-setting Firefox after the
McAfee/Windows hassle that some of us got stuck with earlier this year. I
thought that trying a different search engine might be useful at times
(remember pre-google days?). Never again! ::) ::)
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St Andrew's day today - lang may your lums wreak!
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And
that's a good idea. I don't go to unpleasant or worrysome sites either.
That program came in when I was re-setting Firefox after the
McAfee/Windows hassle that some of us got stuck with earlier this year. I
thought that trying a different search engine might be useful at times
(remember pre-google days?). Never again! ::) ::)
I
love Bing Search, it has intelligent choices, offering me variations of
my search that may sharpen it better. It is microsoft, so if
chosen is quite safe. Google is better for a wildly broad field of
possibilities.
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St Andrew's day today - lang may your lums wreak!
Our wonderful College cook made Dundee cake and whisky fudge for tea this afternoon - yum!
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Definitely better than haggis, neeps and tatties! Or is that just Burns night?
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That is particularly Burns night - and I suspect we may get those
delights when the day arrives. Despite being Scottish, I have to
confess to not being particularly keen on haggis ....
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St Andrew's day today - lang may your lums wreak!
Our wonderful College cook made Dundee cake and whisky fudge for tea this afternoon - yum!
oh yummmmmmy!
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Happy Birthday, Caro!
(http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i211/mickeymouse_261/birthday/cat_cupcake.gif)
and welcome back from vacation.
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Happy, happy Birthday , Caro ! :-*
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(http://www.smileyvault.com/albums/userpics/13911/0003~4.gif)
Happy Birthday Caro
...
Sorry you missed the party!
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A very happy birthday to you Caro :-* :-*
(http://caccioppoli.com/Animated%20gifs/Birthday%20(happy)/0094.gif)
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Caro:
Happy Birthday to you,
Happy Birthday to you,
Happy Birthday dear Caaaaaaaaarrrrrrrrrrrrrrooooooooooooooooooooooo,
Happy Birthday to you!
Hope it's a happy one and that you get lots of neat presents!
Hope also you get to share with family!
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To Caro on her 111th birthday -
She left from the Land Down Under
to go to Way Over Yonder.
I hear she glows,
and has beer that flows,
and she helps Old Weather roll on like thunder!
:-* :-*
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HAPPY BIRTHDAY, CARO
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Good morning OW. December already!
Thank you for the birthday wishes, Janet, Els, Randi, Joan, Dean, Kathy and Craig. :-*
How did you know that I was 111, Kathy?
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Morning OW and happy belated birthday greetings to Caro.
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Best Wishes, Caro!!! :)
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Well done, Caro, another year successfully ticked over. I
think that kathy's a bit over the top with the 111. I wouldn't
have put you at a day over 85.
On another subject: this week's
'Guardian Weekly' quotes a PWC survey that concludes that Aberdeen,
Oxford and Reading/Bracknell were the three happiest locations in the UK
(based on economic success and quality of life). I know that OW
has a strong Oxford connection, but do we have any uber-happy
Aberdonians or Reading/Bracknellites in our midst?
???
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Well we must be ducks at heart in Oxford. see the univ front
page (www.ox.ac.uk) showing the current floods - what you see is a
vast lake:
(http://www.ox.ac.uk/images/hi_res/16045_hightide_ChChMeadow.jpg)
when it should look like this:
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-K52_F4xyTO0/TYpjpBvHqFI/AAAAAAAAAs0/04_6QT0OwbQ/oxford_christ_church_meadow.jpg)
and the real width of the river is this:
(http://s0.geograph.org.uk/geophotos/02/55/72/2557267_b8915309.jpg)
and port meadow looks like this - only with more ice this time:
(http://media3.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/photo/gallery/100105/GAL-10Jan05-3484/media/PHO-10Jan05-196846.jpg)
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Amazing. We are still much too dry in the midwest for
comfort. It would be nice to create some kind to trade system,
letting you give us some of your water.
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;D
All of us, and Bilbo -
:P
(15 days and counting till I see the Hobbit - got the tickets already ;D)
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I found this quite interesting -
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2214192/Scientists-atmospheric-rivers-sky-hit-Britain-1-000-times-water-Thames.html
I also read a story about how this is what is happening now in California -
http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=megastorms-could-down-massive-portions-of-california
:o
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Last week's NewScientist makes for very depressing reading.
It shows that not only are we on the "worst case" trajectory for GHG
emissions but that previous models - at the time of the last IPCC report
- underestimated the degree and timing of warming. What was not
predicted to occur before 2100 is now possible by 2050. Despite this,
it's business as usual in Canada and the US.
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It's all so scarey. I have a friend working in the 'upstream' oil
industry - and he doesn't believe in global warming..I'm lost for words.
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I agree. I was just exchanging e-mails with a woman who believes
that the biblical prediction of Armagheddon is about to be realized
because of the situation in the Middle East but thinks that global
warming is just a theory "used skillfully to create fear, control the
population, and generate revenue".
On the optimistic
side, public opinion regarding the credibility of climate
sciences as measured by opinion polls in the US varies according to the
frequency of extreme weather events. So if things get worse there might
eventually be a concerted response. Too bad it has to wait for
that. :(
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The Zooniverse advent calendar is open: https://www.zooniverse.org/advent
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This is my first Christmas with OW...I'm so excited! AND there's an
advent calendar? Wow..we were never allowed those at home. ;D
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I can't work out how to get the chocolate out :(
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I bet when I get to open it it'll be the shepherds washing their socks.
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While shepherds cooked their food by night
All seated round the pot
The angel of the Lord came down
And quickly ate the lot
or
We three blokes from Dowunder are
One on a tractor, two in a car
A cop on a scooter
Tooting his hooter
Following yonder star
(Both from http://www.abrsm.org)
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:D :D
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(http://mygalaxies.s3.amazonaws.com/sztw58.png)
:D
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Thank you for your celestial greetings Caro. ;D
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You are welcome Joan.
Galactic greetings are available on the advent calendar (https://www.zooniverse.org/advent).
Still no chocolates. >:( ;)
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The Celestial writing link, I have never (over some months) got the link to the writing to work.
I keep getting 'The web page is unavailable'
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I found this quite interesting -
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2214192/Scientists-atmospheric-rivers-sky-hit-Britain-1-000-times-water-Thames.html
I also read a story about how this is what is happening now in California -
http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=megastorms-could-down-massive-portions-of-california
:o
Hi Kathy
Living
in the US you could not possibly know how abysmal the standard of
science reporting is in the Daily Mail. Unless they have changed
tack recently the paper's policy is to deny the existence of climate
change. They always sensationalize scientific developments and the
pieces are written by general reporters rather than science specialists
so they frequently get stuff horribly wrong. It is possible this
report is correct, but I just can't trust anything they print!
(See Ben Goldacre's book "Bad Science" for more travesties that have
appeared in the Daily Mail.)
Scientific American - now that is a publication I trust!
Su
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;D
You are right - I honestly don't know anything about
the Daily Mail - :o - thanks for the heads-up! I like
Scientific American too! ;D :P
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One of the comments on the Daily Mail story asked of these 'rivers
in the sky': "Isn't that the Gulf Stream?". That is a really serious
misconception which could lead to mass drowning of the good denizens of
the UK and Ireland!
Actually, I think that there has been a
perceptible shift in the climate change reporting in recent months (at
least down this way). There has been less reporting of some of the more
sensationalist denialist types, normally so popular with the newspapers
and shock jocks, and more regular reporting of climate change in a
factual way. (We have been spared the thoughts of Chairman Monkton
for a good few months now.). Such a change in reporting tone would be
quite remarkable in Oz, given the dominance of News International.
I still live in hope of reality being addressed; I just hope I am not being naive.
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In this part of the USA - and I suspect in most of it - we
go from 'Crisis du Jour to Crisis du Jour!' It was the 'election'
then Sandy' (a true crisis) now it's the 'fiscal cliff' and then it will
be some other 'disaster.' At least with my volunteer work connections
with the National Weather Service and CoCoRaHS I have someplace to get
the TRUE data and a realistic sense of what is happening. I fear
for the 'common people' who may not have a scientific place to get data
other than FaceBook and the latest 'reality'TV.! :o
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While shepherds cooked their food by night
All seated round the pot
The angel of the Lord came down
And quickly ate the lot
or
We three blokes from Dowunder are
One on a tractor, two in a car
A cop on a scooter
Tooting his hooter
Following yonder star
(Both from http://www.abrsm.org)
Over here we like the Irish Rovers - Grandma Got run Over By a Reindeer!!
http://www.links2love.com/christmas_songs_grandmarunover.htm (Click the video for the tune ;))
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Dean,
I wish it was only 'Crisis du Jour'. However, with 24-hour
digital media the 'news' (term used loosely) hounds are looking more for
the 'Crisis de la Minute'. With so many people chasing
effectively the same number of stories the inevitable consequence is
more rubbish, non-news, made-up news, scandal ... whatever, as long as
it is framed in contoversial ways. If nothing else, my brain has
become a more efficient rubbish-filter.
:o
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I must admit (?confess) that I enyoyed the Daily Mail 'rivers in the
sky' story. It was the best chuckle that I've had since the Goon
Show was in its prime.
;D
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I LOVE Grandma Got Run Over By A Reindeer and the sequel, Grandpa's Gonna Sue The Pants Off Of Santa. And of course, the magnificent Grandma's Killer Fruit Cake!
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Morning OW. No frost this morning. Yay!
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We've woken up to the first snow of the season. It's beginning
to melt so it shouldn't be a problem but I hope it isn't a sign of the
future.
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We've
woken up to the first snow of the season. It's beginning to melt
so it shouldn't be a problem but I hope it isn't a sign of the future.
For me, too.
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And I'm waking up to unseasonably warm weather, 53f and 100%
humidity, high of 68 expected. We had f3 fog last night, also, and
the traffic pictures say that is still here.
It most certainly is not feeling like December. Time to go out for my coffee and see if those numbers are real. :)
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It has warmed up here too in Ottawa/Gatineau after some -10 C lows
and bitter wind. According to the forecast the warm spell won't last
long. The good thing is our small amount of snow was washed away so I
might be able to get my bike out again.
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Arctic blasts with patches of snow for us on Wednesday night...bbbrrrr!
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I'm waking up.
I'll take that as good.
Anything else is a bonus.
;)
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Frost on the ground this morning.
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I'm waking up.
I'll take that as good.
Anything else is a bonus.
;)
oh
you poor old thing! You take it easy as you get the barby going ;)
;D think of how our bones are creaking up this end of the planet
when we wake up and have to get up in the dark! ;) ;) (stew and
dumplings for dinner tonight...yummm. Almost time for the hot water
bottle...)
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Hello OW. The frost is back with a vengeance. Bleh.
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There was snow in Inverness, where I was over the weekend. Pleasant, but cool in Somerset at the moment.
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... and the temps here are all over the place again. Topped
out at 36C here in Canberra late last week, and tomorrow will only get
to 19. Air conditioner was running last week, and the blankets
will be out again tonight. Brisbane made it to 38 earlier today
and it's still 31 there at 9pm. It's just the first week of
summer, with oodles more fun to come.
???
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Just got this from my twin sister:
"Wow! Neat! [I sent her a 'hello' in galaxy text] Having interesting time in Sydney - weather has been awful so far, but should be nice for rest of week."
Have you got rain instead of summer then Stuart?
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Extremely old weather: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-20575250
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It's so windy in Bowral I don't have to blow dry my hair.
So windy at the airfield we're using a log chain instead of a wind sock.
Not good for the ADFA Navel cadets who are on a glider training course with us this week.
Two days canceled in a row.
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Spotted this for real on Monday night.
Someone has put it on utube.
https://www.youtube.com/tv?vq=medium#/watch?v=JSCPMtnqvQw&mode=transport
(https://www.youtube.com/tv?vq=medium#/watch?v=JSCPMtnqvQw&mode=transport)
It fooled me for a few yards.
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That is fascinating! I've never seen anything like it. :)
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As Stuart mentioned - the wind is something fierce today. I had a
lot of 'port helm' on while driving up the road this morning. The
cyclists were being picked out of the trees. Weather is all over
the place again. Bush fires at the left-hand end of the continent
(http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-12-05/firefighters-brace-for-wind-change-as-fire-threatens-bremer-bay/4408610?section=wa
(http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-12-05/firefighters-brace-for-wind-change-as-fire-threatens-bremer-bay/4408610?section=wa))
and summer snow at the right-hand end
(http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-12-05/summer-snow-storm-at-falls-creek/4408722?section=vic
(http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-12-05/summer-snow-storm-at-falls-creek/4408722?section=vic))
- all at about the same latitude!
::)
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We are just as out of norm at the 'good' end of the spectrum. I
mean, 70f (20c ?) in December is threatening records. Not but
what it was nice to go walking in.
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Good morning OW.
I see snow.
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Me too! Kidlington never gets weather - but we had snow. :o
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Weather here is about the same as Janet's, minus a few degrees. It
has cooled off significantly since yesterday's high of 17 C.
I'm
taking a break from the Yukon while they sort things out. The Jeannette
is very tedious with 24 weather entries per day. At least the writing is
very legible. It was more fun typing in the weather remarks in the
Yukon, despite the possibility they will never be used. I would
volunteer to convert the written remarks to weather codes if there
is any interest.
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The tension is growing as it is almost Sinterklaas avond (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sinterklaas) (Saint Nicholas' Eve).
Have we been behaving good and get presents, or will we be taken back to Spain for punishment? ???
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The tension is growing as it is almost Sinterklaas avond (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sinterklaas) (Saint Nicholas' Eve).
Have we been behaving good and get presents, or will we be taken back to Spain for punishment? ???
Why Spain Maikel?
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Because Sinterklaas comes from Spain.
After delivering the presents tonight, tomorrow on his birthday he will return to Spain.
And if you've behaved really badly past year, he will take you away from your parents to Spain.
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Now that's an angle to the tradition I had never heard of
before. What history of the story chose Spain as St. Nicholas'
home?
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On the wiki (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sinterklaas#Middle_Ages)
the translation Turkey-->Italy-->Spain is well explained (actually
his remains should still be in the city of Bari) :)
Note that he
did live and died in Asia Minor... only his remains were moved during
the middle ages (mainly to the city of Bari, but also in Venice and
Bucharest)...
It's curious that in Italy Saint Nicholas and Santa
Klaus are not the same figure in popular culture... the first being the
patron of the city of Bari, the latter being a more "commercial" figure
(Italian name - Babbo Natale - does not contain the word Saint),
introduced well after WWII.
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I thought Saint Nicholas was born in Turkey? Or is this one of
those things like Camelot where half a dozen different places claim the
honour?
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Born in Turkey.
Buried, mostly, in Bari (which at one time belonged to Spain) as propriome states.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saint_Nicholas
and
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sinterklaas#Middle_Ages
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On Her Majesty's Diamond Jubilee somebody did some really great work! :o
this is truly amazing!! ;D
Enjoy!
http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=E8nJhG1xE5o
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What a wonderful picture of a woman's life. Thanks for finding it. :)
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Wow Dean - what a lovely montage, and very clever.
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Born in Turkey.
Buried, mostly, in Bari (which at one time belonged to Spain) as propriome states.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saint_Nicholas
and
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sinterklaas#Middle_Ages
My
next door neighbour comes from Belgium. She told me that there was a
local tradition that Bishop Klaus (so before he became a Saint) would
visit all children before Christ's birthday. To the good children he
would give sweets, but the others would be taken away for a year in his
large white sack. You could tell if the Bishop was coming in the door by
his white gloves. Nina's brother Peter was a bit of a classroom
terror and often in trouble with the teachers. So just before Christmas
the teachers explained to the children that Bishop Klaus would visit the
school. Later that day in the middle of class the door opened and a
white-gloved hand came round the door. Peter shrank in horror. The
bishop came in and handed out sweets from a huge white sack and then
paused near Peter, telling Peter to get into the bag as he was off for a
year. Peter, horrified by this, did as asked and was carted out of
class, a few minutes later and with much mirth, he was released, and he
went forth and never sinned (in the class room ) again. ;D
Elisabeth do you know this tradition at all?
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Well I spent the whole evening making hats for Christmas crackers,
using a hot glue gun. The pain.....never again. Back to transcribing..it
doesn't scar. ::)
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Reasons for going with ordinary white craft glue. 8)
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My probation specifically prohibits glue guns...
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Found this photo in NOAA's photo album "Boats with Bad Days"
(http://www.photolib.noaa.gov/700s/theb0549.jpg)
"Whoops!!! Hung up at high tide with a 30-foot tide. Off NOAA Ship DAVIDSON"
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Whoa! Fitzcarraldo comes to mind.
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Good morning all.
Has Sinterklaas visited your house? ;D
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@propriome:
Over here in the Netherlands and Belgium, Sinterklaas and Santa Claus are two different persons too.
And
as there is a call for tradition (against the globalisation of the
American version of Santa Claus, who incidentally is partly based on
Sinterklaas), the shops don't even show Christmas decorations until
after Sinterklaas' birthday.
@Joan:
After hearing your neighbours explanation, you now know why I was so afraid to be taken to Spain. ;D
@Caro:
I'm still here, so either he hasn't visited my house, or I've been behaving enough this year to be allowed to stay ;D
B.T.W. He did brought a white world. It has snowed during the night.
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The sea will never be our home :'(
Ace Baltic ship disaster in the North Sea
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It is tragic news from the North Sea, szukacz.
We can only hope for those seven sailors still missing.
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This is a terrible event. I hope they find more of the missing
sailors in life rafts - but after last night their chances must be very
slim indeed.
For those souls lost - RIP
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Morning OW very chilly here.
On the Sinterklaas front, here's
a link to Hanny's site with pictures of Hanny as 'Black Pete' Hanny as
Black Pete (http://www.hannysvoorwerp.com/?p=3506)
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We had snow in Oz a few days ago.
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The current edition of New Scientist contains an article titled 'The
green star state', which is subtitled 'Texas has a reputation as the
fossil fuel and climate change denial capital of the US, but things are
quietly changing for the better.'
In the article, the author (George Marshall) writes:
One
old lady, coming out of a Baptist church in Houston, told me that she
had 'prayed for wisdom' and now knew that climate change is 'a Marxist
plot by the Muslim terrorist Obama to impose one world government'.
Things might be changing, but there may be a little way still to go.
???
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The mind boggles.
Good morning OW.
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We had snow in Oz a few days ago.
Skis out for summer then Stuart! ;D
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That was three days ago Joan. We're back to the 30s tomorrow. Put the snow skis away, get the water skis out.
It's getting very confusing for us simple people.
:D
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Goodness me Steeleye - what whacky weather you're having! Water skis always look like fun - enjoy ;) ;)
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It's SNOWING!
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It's SNOWING!
Is it actually sticking so you can play in it? That would feel like winter. :)
(http://www.smileyvault.com/albums/userpics/12177/24.gif)
We're
still working for a record late first measurable snow over here.
Much, much too warm for December (mid 40s today, about 8c).
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No, it didn't stick worth mentioning, and now it has turned to rain :P
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We just had a bit more snow! There is a tiny bit of white on the ground.
I hope that doesn't mean no bus service tomorrow :(
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Here in western New York it doesn't 'count' until it is at least a foot deep and blowing and drifting! :D
We
are having an exeptionally warm, dry winter so far and we despirately
need the water as Lake Ontario is 12" below the 100 year average and
still dropping. :(
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Here in western New York it doesn't 'count' until it is at least a foot deep and blowing and drifting! :D
We
are having an exeptionally warm, dry winter so far and we despirately
need the water as Lake Ontario is 12" below the 100 year average and
still dropping. :(
Exactly
why such a long warm autumn leaves me feeling fussed. This is a
drought, a bad one, and as much as I hate cold, I want that snow.
The lakes much need to be buried in it as a renewal.
I think, I'm not sure, that "measurable snow" means at least half an inch.
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Here in western New York it doesn't 'count' until it is at least a foot deep and blowing and drifting! :D
We
are having an exeptionally warm, dry winter so far and we despirately
need the water as Lake Ontario is 12" below the 100 year average and
still dropping. :(
Exactly
why such a long warm autumn leaves me feeling fussed. This is a
drought, a bad one, and as much as I hate cold, I want that snow.
The lakes much need to be buried in it as a renewal.
I think, I'm not sure, that "measurable snow" means at least half an inch.
Measurable
precip (liquid) is considered 0.1" or 0.2mm Measurable snow
is 0.1" or 2.5mm according to the National Weather Service. :)
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Thanks, weatherman. So it just has to show on a reasonable ruler. :)
Still
hasn't happened here, since last March. Current record length for
a period of no snow in Chicago is 270 days and we tie that record this
Sunday evening. With lots of clouds, a little drizzle, and no
forecast for frost.
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I keep checking the traffic cam at the summit of Snoqualmie Pass,
just up the hill from us a bit. No snow when I looked last night,
but just now I see quite a bit of snow out there. Which means it's
comin' for us next. :)
(http://images.wsdot.wa.gov/sc/090VC05517.jpg?1354926429034)
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Morning OW. No snow here, I'm glad to say.
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Morning OW.
-16C (3F) Brrrr.... cold.
The snow had stopped. Dispelled the fog.
A beautiful sunny morning 8)
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-16C?! Too cold for me. :)
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That sounds just a little bit bracing to me! 32C here to day
(+ve, not -ve). The long-term forcast for this summer in Canberra
is for about 13 days over 35C. We are definitely heading back into
El nino territory this summer after a couple of very wet ones.
Enjoy the snow, szukacz!
::)
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Morning OW.
-16C (3F) Brrrr.... cold.
The snow had stopped. Dispelled the fog.
A beautiful sunny morning 8)
Seriously cold for this early in the year. Keep yourself well-wrapped, Szukacz.
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Good morning world. How's the weather? ;)
2C and clear where I am.
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Hi Caro. -4 C and freezing rain here. Do we have a code for that?
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Hi,
Here we have 2 C, od, Ns (with snow on mountain tops), 1009mb, East 5 wind ;D
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Hi Caro. -4 C and freezing rain here. Do we have a code for that?
http://forum.oldweather.org/index.php?topic=161.msg1071#msg1071
rx - Freezing Rain (i.e. rain which freezes on contact with the ground and vegetation)
or
rs - Rain and snow (Sleet)
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Hi Caro. -4 C and freezing rain here. Do we have a code for that?
Well, I have a code for that but I certainly couldn't repeat it here.
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;D ;D ;D
(and thanks, Randi. Rx sounds like a prescription for misery).
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;D
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Frost frost frost. >:(
Did I mention that I don't like winter?
Hello OW.
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Humans are doing everything in their capacity to abolish it. You'll just have to be patient, Caro. ;D
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Hello OW - grey and raw here in Oxfordshire, and expected to be several degrees below zero overnight - brrrrr!
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Humans are doing everything in their capacity to abolish it. You'll just have to be patient, Caro. ;D
::) ::) ::)
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Just received: 40 reasons to fire a cannon!!
Thought it belonged here! ;D
Caro, Janet, Randi, or others Mods-- feel free to move it to a 'better location!' ;)
http://www.rbgcannons.com/top40.htm
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Just received: 40 reasons to fire a cannon!!
Thought it belonged here! ;D
Caro, Janet, Randi, or others Mods-- feel free to move it to a 'better location!' ;)
http://www.rbgcannons.com/top40.htm
:D :D :D
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I choose no. 38. ;D
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No. 40 is the cherry on top! ;D
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Either #10 or #41 (Fog horn out of order) ;D
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Did anyone see "How the Bismarck sunk HMS Hood" on Sunday night
(Channel 4 in the UK)? I found it very interesting, should still
be available on 4OD/Catch-up for a few more days.
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To cannons - to chase away the geese - I got chased by some once
during a bike ride - DO YOU KNOW how fast geese can run? :o
;D
Yes -saw the Bismark/Hood prog - very good and very revealing!
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There's a Whiskey Bond store near Dumbarton who has adopted the
Roman practice of 'guard geese'. The geese have been provided with
a not very deep long pond (aka known as the 'moat') and are penned away
from the front path during the day. The owners claim that
security is good, repair and replacement cost is low to zero (in fact
some years it is actually profitable) and, as an added bonus, grass
cutting is not required.
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I have heard of companies doing that.
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There was one condo property in the distant suburbs of Chicago
(quite large) with a lagoon that put swans on it for guards. One
of the swans attacked and killed their keeper who came to feed
them. I think sticking with geese is a good idea.
The birds are definitely thought to be better than guard dogs.
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Hello OW on 12/12/12. :D
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Hello from snow-clad Oxford.
It only snowed over the town centre - the rest of the area is bound in ice and fog at -3/4 degrees C Brrrrrr!
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Hello OW on 12/12/12. :D
And the last time this century will have a triple date like that! 8)
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-3C here too but no snow; just frost on top of yesterday's frost. :P
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Any OWers expecting to be around for the next 01/01/01? I
wonder if our great grandchildren will stilll be transcribing or editing
then.
??? ::)
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Drilling begins at lake hidden beneath Antarctic (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-20682647)
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You have to feel sorry for the poor little bugs down there.
500K years minding their own business in rather cool water getting on
with whatever little bugs do, then whooshka! ... the peace is rather rudely disturbed. At least they'll be able to make themselves a nice cup of tea.
::)
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Hello OW on 12/12/12. :D
And have you all heard the joke about it being National Sound Engineers Day?
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Nooooo, but I have heard the one about it being World Roadies' Day. ;D
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Some people are very skillful - or very lucky - with their camera work:
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-12-12/lightning-as-fireworks-explode-in-mandurahjpg/4423628
(http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-12-12/lightning-as-fireworks-explode-in-mandurahjpg/4423628)
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Great pic Howard!
Hello OW.
I'm impressed to see from
today's advent calendar (https://www.zooniverse.org/advent)window
that of the 320,000 messages created with the galaxify tool since
September, 320 have contained the words 'marry me'. ;D
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Awwww -that's romantic :-* :-* :-*
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An unspeakable tragedy in the USA today. :'(
Gunman killed 20 children and 6 adults in an Elementary School in Connecticut this morning . :'(
One, his mother, a teacher in the school. :'(
Details are still sketchy.
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The news today leaves me feeling ill. There has to be a way to stop these horrors, I just can't think what it is.
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without a gun the shooter was harmless. Seems like an easy equation to me.
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without a gun the shooter was harmless. Seems like an easy equation to me.
Totally
obvious to me, too. I do not understand the pro-gun lobby, at
all. We don't need to help anyone who wants to kill people.
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I should have said that I am shocked by this event, and terribly sad for the families. It is awful.
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I can't believe this -
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So sad, there are no words !
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Lets hope tomorrow is better than today was.
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Truly we do, Stuart.
Our thoughts are with you, USA.
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Terrible!
Our Conservative government just abolished our long
gun registry in Canada. Admittedly, it didn't offer much protection
although most police chiefs wanted to keep it. The Quebec government is
still trying to keep our portion of the it. The Montreal Massacre where
22 female engineering students were killed over 20 years ago is still
fresh in our memories.
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Just no words ........
Why children?! Why anyone? Why is that ??? :'( :'(
:'(
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I don't understand this kind of insane evil, szukacz.
5-year-old children cannot have done him harm. Thank you all for
the support and sympathy, we'll be mourning this for while.
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A terrible thing indeed :'( ... and there will never be a definitive answer to why it has happened...
If
anyone can buy a gun for a few hundred dollars these things will
continue to happen... let's hope this horrible fact will at least help
things to change.
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I understand that the Police think the guns were legally held by his
mother, who he shot. Apparently he was a bright student who
finished High School early but didn't seem to be a good mixer.
I
can understand people doing competitive shooting, I can understand,
although wouldn't want to do it myself, people shooting for the
pot. Trophy shooting defeats me and why anyone would think they
are 'safer' with a gun in a suburban house puzzles me. Unless you
carry it, you will never have it to hand when you want it. If it
isn't secure then a thief could nick it and use it against you, if it is
then getting it will take time and who wants to be armed all the time
anyway.
I don't live that far from Dunblane and I know that the
community in the USA will be hurting for many years, however much they
try to support each other. It just seems so senseless and cruel.
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It is senseless and cruel, and this leaves a permanent hole in this community that will never go away.
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I
understand that the Police think the guns were legally held by his
mother, who he shot. Apparently he was a bright student who
finished High School early but didn't seem to be a good mixer.
I
can understand people doing competitive shooting, I can understand,
although wouldn't want to do it myself, people shooting for the
pot. Trophy shooting defeats me and why anyone would think they
are 'safer' with a gun in a suburban house puzzles me. Unless you
carry it, you will never have it to hand when you want it. If it
isn't secure then a thief could nick it and use it against you, if it is
then getting it will take time and who wants to be armed all the time
anyway.
I don't live that far from Dunblane and I know that the
community in the USA will be hurting for many years, however much they
try to support each other. It just seems so senseless and cruel.
I
had just been thinking about Dunblane and Hungerford, and remembering
that the families of Abervan have never recovered from what happened
there in , what was it - 1965? Loosing part of your community is
devastating. Learning to smile again after that has to hurt, but what
else can you do?
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It is not just a wound, it's an amputation. But amputees can
learn to live a very good life, it's just completely different from what
they wanted or expected.
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What seems especially tragic to me is that we have seen this type of
thing happen before, but we still weren't able to prevent this.
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There is not much we can do with the truly disturbed unless we know they are disturbed.
It seems no one acted on the fact that this young man seemed to have 'issues.'
All the gun laws in the World won't solve things like this. :'(
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I'm thinking we're looking at something that is both a strength and
weakness of small towns. They are small and close enough to take
care of each other, in little ways that are immensely more supportive
than anything found in a bigger city. I drove into a strange small
town in Michigan looking for a certain company, a long while
back. I knew I would be lost there, so stopped at a gas
station/big convenient store and asked how to get to such-and-such an
address. The cashier's honest answer was, "I don't know."
What I got instead was having her leave her money unguarded while going
through the store looking for someone who did know and could - and did! -
help me, a stranger. I can't imagine how it felt to live your
whole life feeling that cared for.
The strange and slightly
not-right members of the community will be watched over and taken care
of. By folk with no experience in recognizing the seriously
troubled. It takes them for decades as an immensely safe and
pleasant place to live, but vulnerable to great disasters. And I'm
not at all sure I want to change that much.
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There is not much we can do with the truly disturbed unless we know they are disturbed.
It seems no one acted on the fact that this young man seemed to have 'issues.'
All the gun laws in the World won't solve things like this. :'(
I can't entirely agree with you on that - if the guy had only had a knife he could not have taken anything like so many lives.
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As it happens, he used the guns to do the crime that his mother had
purchased, she stocked them in her house so she would feel "safe" after
her divorce. He left the 2 long hunting rifles in the closet, and
took all the people-killers. He had stolen his brother's ID just
to buy ammunition.
I don't know how the gun lobby is going to
defend this with "more guns is better." I wish I could be sure
they'd be smart enough to not try, but they will never admit to having
encouraged this.
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The truth is that plenty of people in our society have mental
problems. They are difficult problems to deal with, and inherently seen
as something to hide rather than make public. If we treated mental
problems with the same level of care as we treat broken legs we'd be a
lot better off and less of these circumstances would arise.
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I know of no one who can see any justification for automatic/assault
weapons being a legal puchase in a civilised society. However,
even if the US does decide to reimpose the rather weak ban on assault
weapon sales from the 1990s, will it lead to a reduction in mass
killings in the US? I very much doubt it for four reasons.
Firstly, the US is awash in weapons - the figures I have recently read
indicate 300 million weapons available, or almost one for every person
in the country, and one in three households owning a weapon (or
weapons). It would probably be years before there was any noticeable
reduction in the number of such weapons in circulation. Secondly,
compared to just about any other developed country, there is almost an
acceptance of violence as an inherent part of society - as witness
comparative homicide rates and the general television fare that is on
offer. Thirdly, there appears to be a societal hope that if mental
problems are ignored they will somehow just go away (and the US is far
from alone in this). Fourthly, US politics appear to be at the mercy of
moneyed interest groups - of which the NRA is but one example.
Such interest groups appear to this foreigner to be the most powerful
influences in US society, and they are certainly more influential than
the average elected politician.
You can probably come up with a
lot more reasons why things are most unlikely to change. If the
ban on automatic weapons does reappear, then the best that can be said
is that it shows that sufficient people care about the current sad state
of affairs to at least want to do something. But when they are up
against the sort of pro-gun political representatives that are
currently in Congress (e.g
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/12/16/louie-gohmert-guns_n_2311379.html
(http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/12/16/louie-gohmert-guns_n_2311379.html),
it's hard to see any change happening soon.
Such a sad way for a country to treat its own citizens.
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All too true.
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I own a .22 Target Pistol. It was something dad and I did together
as he got older. We belonged to a Vet's Pistol Team and did
competitive shooting at paper targets
I COMPLETELY agree with
Steeleye that the country is awash in guns and not likely to change
although this latest might finally push Congress (the opposite of
PROgress) off center. I believe the 'gun thing' goes back to the way our
country got it's 'start' as a 'pioneer wilderness area' and the mindset
is that it still is.
There is NO reason for assault weapons or
large clips for the general public. Although I'm not sure what changing
the laws will do since here in New York we have some of the toughest gun
laws in the Nation and we still have shootings, etc - but most of them
seem 'drug related' but the criminals STILL find access to guns. :-\
As
a retired teacher I can only imagine what it was/is like for those at
the school and pray for them, the kids, and the parents in the future.
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Steeleye is completely right.
States like Michigan have such
extensive woodlands and deer, a lot of someones must go hunting every
fall if there isn't mass starvation in the herd with major health
hazards afterward. But none of those hunters took semi automatic
weapons out with them, and none needed high capacity clips. We
have made it illegal for anyone to make bombs. I am deeply
offended by the refusal to see the equal damage being done by other
military arms. It is just completely wrong. No one in my
family is armed, and I simply do not understand where these folk are
coming from. The resources for this kind of mass horror should not
be available to anyone, mentally balanced or not.
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I listened to an idiot from the NRA being interviewed on the radio
who said that the massacre could have been prevented or minimized had
the teachers been armed. What sort of 'arms' would a primary
school teacher need to combat a sub-machine gun I ask myself - are they
supposed to go around in the protective vests as well I wonder.
What a lovely picture of a friendly class it conjures up. Why did
the lad's mother need a sub-machine gun to make her feel 'safe' anyway?
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Definitely crazy thinking. Very sick crazy thinking - stop the killing with more killing?? NO!!!
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The mother was a "prepper" according to today's paper. This is a
movement that urges readiness for social chaos by hoarding supplies and
training with weapons. She was afraid of repercussions if the economy
collapsed. Apparently she said to her friend less than a week
before the killings that she was afraid she was "losing her son".
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I
listened to an idiot from the NRA being interviewed on the radio who
said that the massacre could have been prevented or minimized had the
teachers been armed. What sort of 'arms' would a primary school
teacher need to combat a sub-machine gun I ask myself - are they
supposed to go around in the protective vests as well I wonder.
What a lovely picture of a friendly class it conjures up. Why did
the lad's mother need a sub-machine gun to make her feel 'safe' anyway?
Here
in New York state even if licensed we were not allowed to carry weapons
onto school property. When I shot with the Faculty Pistol Team we would
unload the pistols in to a locked box and give them to the Principal
who locked them in the safe until the end of the day. The LAST thing I
would want to do is stand in front of my Elementary school kids and try
to teach them with a gun on my hip!
The
mother was a "prepper" according to today's paper. This is a movement
that urges readiness for social chaos by hoarding supplies and training
with weapons. She was afraid of repercussions if the economy
collapsed. Apparently she said to her friend less than a week
before the killings that she was afraid she was "losing her son".
Hadn't seen THAT part yet. It DOES explain some - she was as 'nuts' as the kid. :'(
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I get a email subscription called CQ Roll Call Daily Briefing
keeping me up to date on issues in front of congress. I admit to
frequently not reading it all, but it's nice to get in weeks like this
when I am interested. This is what they had to say about the gun
law issue:
http://corporate.cqrollcall.com/content/4/en/CQ_Roll_Call_Daily_Briefing
THE
HOUSE: Convenes at noon and will debate two bills to clean up
bureaucratic oversights. One would formally permit 3 miles of natural
gas pipeline to cross a corner of Alaska?s Glacier National Park, which
it?s been doing for 50 years. The other would officially give back a
tract of private land near San Diego mistakenly included in a 2004
tribal reservation creation. Votes are at 6:30.
THE 'A' TEAM: The
easy prediction to make is that Newtown will not bring any more lasting
change to the Capital's gun control dynamic than Aurora did this
summer, or Tucson did two years ago, or Fort Hood did three years ago,
or Virginia Tech did five years ago ? or Columbine did back in 1999,
when the modern American era of the rampage shooting began. (Sandy Hook
Elementary was the 30th multiple-death mass killing using firerarms in
the country since then.)
There have been some decent signs in the
past three days, however, that this time really could be different. And
the biggest such breakthrough came this morning when Joe Manchin, a
lifelong member of the NRA, said it was time to ?move beyond rhetoric?
on gun control and begin writing legislation ? with the gun rights lobby
given the opportunity to sit at the negotiating table. (The best guess
there is that the senator was on the phone with both the White Hosue and
the NRA before he went on TV, or has been in the hours since.)
The
West Virginian, who?s becoming the most influential culturally
conservative Democrat in the Senate, said on MSNBC that he agrees with
Mayor Mike Bloomberg of New York, who has advocated a ban on the sale of
assault weapons even more far-reaching than the one on the federal
books for a decade ending in 2004. Manchin strongly suggested that
sportsmen and people seeking to defend their homes should not view their
Second Amendment rights as being violated by reviving that same law?s
ban on the sort of high-capacity ammunition clips that Adam Lanza
attached to his Bushmaster while killing 20 first graders and six school
officials on Friday. ?I?ve never had more than three shells in a clip,?
said Manchin, who says he spent the weekend deer hunting. ?I?m a proud
outdoorsman and hunter, but this doesn?t make sense.?
Manchin
becomes the first of 31 current senators with an ?A? rating from the NRA
to speak publicly about gun control since Friday?s rampage. And the
silence from the rest of them also seems to be revelatory. NBC said a
blanket invitation went out to all of them to defend the gun control
status quo on ?Meet the Press,? and all of them declined. Similarly, all
eight Republicans currently on Senate Judiciary (each of whom has a
solidly pro-gun voting record) declined invitations to be on CBS? ?Face
the Nation.?
AVAILABLE STEPS: Beyond that, Obama signaled last
night that ? before any legislative effort gears up, which would not be
before the new year ? he was prepared to make aggressive use of his
presidential powers to tighten gun restrictions. ?In the coming weeks, I
will use whatever power this office holds to engage my fellow citizens,
from law enforcement to mental health professionals to parents and
educators, in an effort aimed at preventing more tragedies like this,?
he said at the memorial service in Newtown. What form that would take is
not yet clear, but he has several options that would not require
congressional action to be put in place ? but instead could only be
stopped by a sustained and legislatively complex campaign by the NRA?s
allies.
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The man from the NRA acknowledged that there were areas where guns
were not permitted e.g. schools but said that this was a mistake and
violence would only decrease if guns could be carried everywhere!
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The
man from the NRA acknowledged that there were areas where guns were not
permitted e.g. schools but said that this was a mistake and violence
would only decrease if guns could be carried everywhere!
OH. MY! Another 'crazy person!!'
Maybe we can find a way to 'outlaw' the NRA??!! ::)
Another
thing that MAY put an end to some of this craziness - stop publishing
the name of the shooter! If some idiot wants to kill himself that's one
thing, but if they want to be 'famous' and 'remembered' forever they go
out in a blaze of gunfire. It seems no one remembers the names of
the VICTIMS of those other shootings but the idiots who did it are
'household names.' Report, explain, whatever - but do NOT MENTION the
shooter's name EVER!
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There is a tendency to do this already in the UK, we usually refer
to the place e.g. Dunblane, Hungerford rather than the name of the
person who committed the deed. If I think about it I can recall the name
at Dunblane but I've forgotten the Hungerford one.
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That is a wonderful idea.
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I agree.
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Good morning all.
Did anybody notice OW on the Zooniverse advent calendar yesterday?
https://www.zooniverse.org/advent
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Very pretty. Which solar system was that taken in?
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The local one, probably.
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Hard to believe, with the tinges of light on both sides of the moon
facing the earth and planets that are almost as big as suns.
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;D Oh, you mean the background?
You can find that here: http://blog.planethunters.org/2012/10/23/more-ph1-artwork/
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I'm glad it wasn't supposed to be ours. One sun is sufficient,
although it did make for a nice moon effect. Is that what I was supposed
to notice in the foreground?
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I have some comments on the Conn shooting. This state has some of
the strictess gun control laws in america believe it or not. Also large
capacity magazines that have over ten rounds have been around since the
1860s (this is not a typo). There are hundreds of millions of them in
America today trying to ban them is impossible unless you want to make
tens of millions of Americans into criminals. Believe it or not there
have been semi-auto rifles in America since 1907 when Winchester came
out with there model 1907 semiauto rifle. It has a detachable box
magazine and can get off rounds just as fast as any AR-15 style rifle.
Also note there over 3.5 million AR-15s in America today and millions of
other copies. Add to this several million more AK copies, SKSs, M-1
carbines, Remington 7400 series and many others.
I have some
comments on some anti-gun politicians: Mayor Bloomberg who like to whine
on TV about gun control goes around with quite a few police bodyguards
at all times. He also won't talk about all the rich and famous types who
have New york City carry concealed permits like Donald Trump. these are
impossible for the little people to get ect. Also some years ago
bloomberg hire a couple of private detectives to go to other states and
buy guns to show how easy it was. they did so and broke the law in the
process but nobody got arrested for this.
Then there is
Senator Fienstien another leading anti-gun politician. She has or had a
carry concealed permit issued by by the san francisco police department.
They only have issued nine of them all to multi-millionares like her.
She also goes around everywhere by armed bodyguards. One wonders what
the magazine capcities of their handgun magazines are. These are two
examples of anti-gun politicians who are liars, no nothings and
hypocrites.
Finally, about the same time the Conn. shooting
took place there was a mall shooting in Portland Oregon. The bad guy had
a AR-15 that was stolen. He only managed to kill two people before he
ran into a armed citizen with a carry concealed permit. the bad guy then
killed himself.
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About me and gun control, I personally strongly dislike guns.
There's no traumatic experience behind that, it's just the way I've
always been. When someone like my step-brother in Upper Michigan
goes out only in the bow-and-arrow season, something in me
relaxes. (He says he does it for his own safety, archers value
their arrows too highly to shoot anything that moves but doesn't clearly
look like a deer.)
But I have lived in a small town in rural
lower Michigan, and have a brother-in law from West Virginia with its
heavily wooded old mountains. We have too many deer and prey
species living in the wild, and we have protected ourselves by
eliminating most of those deer's predators. We need to hunt
extensively, if we are not to condemn many thousands of animals to death
by starvation. And most of the families in those areas know
exactly where to get deer butchered and count on that meat to feed their
families, and own enough hunting rifles to outfit all the men-folk and a
number of the women. My step-brother cheats by making a salt lick
for them in the summer near where he'll come to hunt in the
autumn. I truly cannot think of banning all guns. It would
not only be unconstitutional, it would harm the environment.
I
know various forms of high capacity cartridges and semi-automatic
machine guns have been around since sometime in our Civil War, though
then they were too big and heavy for one man to carry. I also know
that marrying a "no semi-auto" law with a buy back program would work
in most law-abiding homes, which is where the really disturbed
children-killers seem to come from. And I also know that if
selling them was illegal, we would not have twice as many of the things
around 10 years from now, which is actually likely if we stay with the
status quo. And I refuse to take the stance that since our status
now is dangerously bad, we should give up, go with the flow, and stop
trying to make the changes we need. Saying (truthfully) that we
will never get all of them off the streets should never lead to the
conclusion that we should just go on making more of them.
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Good morning OW.
I can't tell you what is in today's window on the advent calendar because it isn't open until 10.00 am GMT.
Something to do with the Milky Way Project I would guess. ;)
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Well guessed, Caro, it was indeed.
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I would like to try it too, Helen, but all I get is an error message.
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It works perfectly for my in Chrome.
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Fine for me in Firefox - hope you can find a way in Caro!
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Oh yes, thanks. Working fine now!
(http://mwp-development.s3.amazonaws.com/irdcs/dev/4q_cutout_simon/331140081_mos.jpg)
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:D :D :D
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All I know is this - no civilian needs a weapon that fires a large
number of bullets in a short amount of time. If you want to have a
weapon for home defense, nothing beats a shotgun. The thought of
all those little pellets about to hit tender areas, will make all but
the craziest stop.
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A comment to a local paper said to the effect, if you cannot ban guns, control the ammunition supply.
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Hello world on 20/12/2012
(even if it's 12/20/2012 where you are ;))
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Greetings Caro and Shipmates,
Quite a warm one here today (29C) and too windy to be really pleasant.
I
take it that we are all aware that tomorrow is 21-12-2012 (OK,
12-21-2012, if you insist). If the doomsayers are to be believed, we had
better get a move on if we are to finish all the transcribing and
history editing before the Big Finito.
Where would we be without all the fruitloopery in the world to keep us amused?
Enjoy your day, wherever you are.
::)
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Trying very hard to finish editing my log before doomsday.
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At least, thanks to Stuart Lynn, our counts will be correct when the world ends! ;D
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Phew! Good work Stuart.
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We know that the Jeannette is heading for disaster anyway, so I am
in no hurry to put her crew through that ordeal again. We have a new
captain (Clewi) who is racing ahead like there's no (day after)
tomorrow, though.
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Good morning OW - new weather here today is ghastly, very wet and
somewhat windy. Serious flooding in some parts of the country;
here just some very very large puddles on roads. Went out shopping
early and was very glad I had, looking at the queues going in the other
direction on my way home.
Definitely a day for hopping over to California and carrying on transcribing ....
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Why stop at California, Helen, if you're sick of the rain.
You're always welcome down here, you know. We've just about forgotten
what rain looks like (again).
[Insert sweating emoticon here]
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And besides, winter in California's wet season. ;)
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Ah, but I've reached March on Pioneer, and it's warming up nicely
and mainly dry. Not that we're going anywhere much - back in yet
another dockyard. I'm beginning to think the Navy palmed off a
distinctly dodgy ship on the Survey .....
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It's dawn on the 21st here in Oz, and I'm pleased to report that we
haven't disappeared in a large puff of smoke. If I'm still here in
another 18 hours, I will resume my normal pace of transcribing/editing
and wait with bated breath for the next predicted end-of-the-world day.
:o
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I hope you're going to post bright and early on the 22nd, Steeleye,
so that the rest of us know the world made it through the 21st!
I'm going to be so annoyed if the Mayans were right, because
I'm really going to regret spending so much of my final three weeks on
Christmas shopping, Christmas wrapping, writing cards and so on!
>:(
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Logically (hah!), if we are to be collectively expunged on the 21st
then it should happen when all the world is very briefly on the same
date. Howver, I wonder if the Mayans allowed for the fact that
some of us are operating on daylight saving/summer time at the moment.
This could get very confusing.
I suspect that your card writing shall not have been in vain Su.
::)
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The whole thing is a bunch of poppy cock and will never happe
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;D
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If it happens today I'm going to be severely hacked off. Nut loaves
ready, brandy butter made, nana's recipe pudding waiting, 80 cards
written and posted, sloe gin made, apple jelly too, ginger beer cooling
in the fridge, Christmas buns cooling on the wire. Grrrr! ;)
:D ;D
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Can I come round to your place for Xmas ;D
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Do you need a helping hand with consuming that lot, Joan? I'd
hate for you to have to eat and drink through the pain barrier with no
assistance from your shipmates.
It's now early afternoon on a
magnificent day here - with no signs of volcanic eruptions, apocalyptic
horsemen, or anything else of that ilk. Still with us Dean?
::)
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A bit soggy in the UK this morning but nothing apocalyptic, yet.
Good morning OW. ;D
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Yep - everyone welcome to my place! If it's still there - only
one sign of trouble this morning - the puddle-of-deep-despair at the
entrance to the Clarendon Building. So regularly apocalyptic in width
and depth that it now counts as a small inland sea. ;D Dean -
when your lakes run dry you can come and park your boat here. ;)
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Drat, dirty dishes are still on the kitchen counter :P
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Don't wash them til today is over - ::) ;D
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Do you think possible end of the world is a good excuse to stay in and eat all the Christmas cake rather than go shopping?
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Definitely!
Can't let it go to waste! ;D
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Christmas pudding, ditto.
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Today a news report was on the radio about the local authority in
Waalwijk, The Netherlands, having to postpone a chemical calamity
exercise.
Because of the media attention to the Maya calendar and end
of the world stories, people might mistake the exercise for the end of
the world. :P
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Wise decision on their part. Better call off the fire drills too.
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With a distinct lack of faith in impending apocalypse I've just
finished the third of the pieces of college work I brought home with me -
hooray! ;D ;D ;D Now for some actual holiday time .... (and of
course more transcribing/editing).
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It's nice to relax while transcribing OW. :)
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GOOD NEWS!!!!! ;D ;D ;D
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Thanks Dean. What a relief!
Happy winter/summer solstice too.
(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-ds4iOsr2j9Y/TvK478P-QYI/AAAAAAAABTw/TxkmJjeUGak/s640/winter+solstice.jpg)
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8)
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Visited Stonehenge several years ago. Very interesting and most enjoyable. ;D
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magical ...
...
..
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and what?
Threads of the end of the world.
It is a pity I missed something again. ;D ;)
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Still alive and kicking! we're running out of doom time.. ;D
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They said on the radio that it was due to happen at 11.11am GMT,
which appears to be pretty much the time of the actual December
solstice. So we should be in the clear by now! ;D
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We were just having a last get-together tea (for xmas - not for
ever! ;D) at work when one of the Prof's noticed it was 11.15 and
therefore the solstice itself. At which point he sat down and ate his
bun and didn't vapourize. The other prof (Myles no less) said that it
was a case of the mayan's running out of calendar - and that a quick
trip to the local stationers should suffice to continue history on its
allotted course. 8)
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Christmas pudding, ditto.
Double Ditto (with Double cream and Brandy custard)
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Sun's up ... on the 22nd. Excellent!
;D
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Sun's up ... on the 22nd. Excellent!
;D
Whew! Definitely out of the woods then! ;D
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Sun's up ... on the 22nd. Excellent!
;D
Whew! Definitely out of the woods then! ;D
Unless the batteries were weak or dead on the Mayan calendar in which case............. ;)
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Hurrah then!! ;D ;D
Didn't get vapourized ...best birthday I ever had.
Yeeeeeeha! ;D ;D
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(http://caccioppoli.com/Animated%20gifs/Birthday%20(happy)/arbowhb.gif) ;)
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Happy Birthday, Joan!
(http://www.desismileys.com/smileys/desismileys_3398.gif)
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cheers folks!!! ;D ;D ;D
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Happy Birthday, Joan!
(http://www.smileyvault.com/albums/userpics/12962/bday_song.gif)
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Happy Birthday Joan
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Sun is definitely over the yardarm down here, Joan. I think it's time to "Pipe up spirits"!
Cheers, and enjoy,
Howard
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I'm drinking to that.
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Hello OW.
Come on, check out the advent calendar today!
https://www.zooniverse.org/advent
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That's a re-run, Caro. I saw it a couple of days ago (before our world was destroyed).
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No, it's a different one ;)
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Joan:
Happy Birthday to you,
Happy Birthday to you,
Happy Birthday dear Jooooooooooooaaaaaaannnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn,
Happy Birthday to you!
Hope it's a happy one and that you get lots of neat presents!
Hope also you get to share with family!
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Had to share this from the Log transcription of Empress of Britain.
I think we've ALL seen this ship at one time or another!!!!
Other: Courtmartial prisoner transferred temporarily to HMS illegible :D :D
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Thanks Dean! ;D Sort of got to share with family - I have a
twin who kindly called me all the way from the Atlas Mountains in
Morocco to let me know how nice it was there - bless her ;D ;D
;D My brother always forgets - but then he forgets when his
birthday is too. ::)
And given that we didn't all blow up - it made a great day! 8) 8) 8)
It was also my last day at work for 2 weeks yeeeeha! I can play all day. Well - after the housework. ::)
Hope everyone is feeling ready for the festive season!
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Had to share this from the Log transcription of Empress of Britain.
I think we've ALL seen this ship at one time or another!!!!
Other: Courtmartial prisoner transferred temporarily to HMS illegible :D :D
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Had to share this from the Log transcription of Empress of Britain.
I think we've ALL seen this ship at one time or another!!!!
Other: Courtmartial prisoner transferred temporarily to HMS illegible :D :D
Yeah, that one and HMS Split Pages. ;D
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;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Had to share this from the Log transcription of Empress of Britain.
I think we've ALL seen this ship at one time or another!!!!
Other: Courtmartial prisoner transferred temporarily to HMS illegible :D :D
I've sighted that ship in a number of different places!! ;D ;D ;D
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Had to share this from the Log transcription of Empress of Britain.
I think we've ALL seen this ship at one time or another!!!!
Other: Courtmartial prisoner transferred temporarily to HMS illegible :D :D
I've sighted that ship in a number of different places!! ;D ;D ;D
She's usually in company with HMS ~~~~~~~~~ ;)
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Good morning OW.
From today's calendar window ....
(http://zooniverseblog.files.wordpress.com/2012/12/user-infographic.jpg)
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The software is going to love these wind dirs from the Rodgers.
NE to E, to E by S. and ESE to E by N.
Would love to know how it discriminates which is which.
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;D
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Good evening shipmates. (It's just past the end of the 2nd Dog Watch here.)
I've
just been watching the news and I see that the UK is severely under
water again. I think that the main value served by the coastline
on maps is to indicate where the fresh water stops and the salt water
begins.
I hope you're all still afloat up there. It must be
rather unpleasant having to wear wellies when you are
transcribing. All the best for Christmas Day ... which starts in
about four hours down here.
8)
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Still afloat here, thank you Howard.
It looks bad in the West Country and Scotland today.
I am just about to phone 'home'. ;D
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OK in Oxfordshire, just very wet and grey. My mum and sister are in Scotland, but OK as of yesterday.
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The clock has just ticked over at midnight, and I'm heading off to
my bunk - but not until I've wished all shipmates a Merry Christmas.
May your feet stay dry today, wherever you are.
Cheers,
Howard
(Ordinary Seaman)
;D ::) ;D ::) ;D ::)
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Merry Christmas Howard and Stuart!
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Merry Christmas, Down Under!
Has
everyone seen today's Google Logo, and the "Google Santa Tracker"
dashboard? Right this minute, they say he just left Hobart and is
heading for Adelaide ;D
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Santa has now reached China .... :D
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Now he's well over Russia.
Oh I'm SO excited!!! ;D ;D ;D
And he's even got some little helpers, stuck in sea ice so plenty of time on their hands..... ;)
(http://navaltoday.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/Royal-Navy-Ice-Patrol-Ship-Takes-to-Ice-for-Charity-Santa-Run-495x278.jpg)
I wish you all a very happy christmas
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;D ;D ;D
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Still afloat here, thank you Howard.
It looks bad in the West Country and Scotland today.
I am just about to phone 'home'. ;D
Good evening shipmates. (It's just past the end of the 2nd Dog Watch here.)
I've
just been watching the news and I see that the UK is severely under
water again. I think that the main value served by the coastline
on maps is to indicate where the fresh water stops and the salt water
begins.
I hope you're all still afloat up there. It must be
rather unpleasant having to wear wellies when you are
transcribing. All the best for Christmas Day ... which starts in
about four hours down here.
8)
There
has been a lot of flooding in the South West. Luckily I am not
personally affected as I am quite high up. But I am very glad I am
not trying to travel over the Christmas period as the main railway line
has been flooded at Exeter so there are no train services to Devon and
Cornwall, and so many roads have been flooded that they can't even put
on replacement bus services on some routes. I have seen the Exe on
my travels earlier today - it was very high and flowing very fast, and
looking generally quite scary!
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Wishing Everyone a Cool Yule!
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Hi, Su - I like your Christmas cat!
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For those wishing to see where he is - here is NORAD's Santa Tracker!!
http://www.noradsanta.org/
Merry Christmas to those who have it and Merry Christmas Eve to those still waiting!! ;D
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For more than 50 years, NORAD and its predecessor, the Continental Air Defense Command (CONAD) have tracked Santa's flight.
The
tradition began in 1955 after a Colorado Springs-based Sears Roebuck
& Co. advertisement misprinted the telephone number for children to
call Santa. Instead of reaching Santa, the phone number put kids through
to the CONAD Commander-in-Chief's operations "hotline." The Director of
Operations at the time, Colonel Harry Shoup, had his staff check the
radar for indications of Santa making his way south from the North Pole.
Children who called were given updates on his location, and a tradition
was born.
I can't help but note that NORAD and Google are tracking different Santas - or the same Santa at different times ???
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Look for Google in other parts of the world, and trust NORAD to cover N. America. ;D
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I think this is an instance of the uncertainty principle - quantum
strangeness. Both Santas certainly have the same spin, which is
Merry Christmas everybody ;D
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(https://www.t-mobilepictures.com/myalbum/thumbnail/photo58/1f/1c/fedb9e24704c__1356305357000.jpg?tw=0&th=720&s=true&rs=false)
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Look for Google in other parts of the world, and trust NORAD to cover N. America. ;D
That was my first thought, but at the time, NORAD was showing Santa in Lithuania and now it is showing him in Egypt.
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I'd have to ask whose radar they are using over there. ;)
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The compliments of the season to you all
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I bet you can't get Belle out of that hat all day! ;D ;D
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Clement Clarke Moore (1779 - 1863) wrote the poem Twas the night
before Christmas also called ?A Visit from St. Nicholas" in 1822. It is
now the tradition in many American families to read the poem every
Christmas Eve. The poem 'Twas the night before Christmas' has redefined
our image of Christmas and Santa Claus. Prior to the creation of the
story of 'Twas the night before Christmas' St. Nicholas, the patron
saint of children, had never been associated with a sleigh or reindeers!
Clement
Moore, the author of the poem Twas the night before Christmas, was a
reticent man and it is believed that a family friend, Miss H. Butler,
sent a copy of the poem to the New York Sentinel who published the poem.
The condition of publication was that the author of Twas the night
before Christmas was to remain anonymous.
The first publication
date was 23rd December 1823 and it was an immediate success. It was not
until 1844 that Clement Clarke Moore claimed ownership when the work was
included in a book of his poetry.
Twas the Night before Christmas Poem
Make it Snow !
Twas the night before Christmas, when all through the house
Not a creature was stirring, not even a mouse.
The stockings were hung by the chimney with care,
In hopes that St Nicholas soon would be there.
The children were nestled all snug in their beds,
While visions of sugar-plums danced in their heads.
And mamma in her ?kerchief, and I in my cap,
Had just settled our brains for a long winter?s nap.
When out on the lawn there arose such a clatter,
I sprang from the bed to see what was the matter.
Away to the window I flew like a flash,
Tore open the shutters and threw up the sash.
The moon on the breast of the new-fallen snow
Gave the lustre of mid-day to objects below.
When, what to my wondering eyes should appear,
But a miniature sleigh, and eight tinny reindeer.
With a little old driver, so lively and quick,
I knew in a moment it must be St Nick.
More rapid than eagles his coursers they came,
And he whistled, and shouted, and called them by name!
"Now Dasher! now, Dancer! now, Prancer and Vixen!
On, Comet! On, Cupid! on, on Donner and Blitzen!
To the top of the porch! to the top of the wall!
Now dash away! Dash away! Dash away all!"
As dry leaves that before the wild hurricane fly,
When they meet with an obstacle, mount to the sky.
So up to the house-top the coursers they flew,
With the sleigh full of Toys, and St Nicholas too.
And then, in a twinkling, I heard on the roof
The prancing and pawing of each little hoof.
As I drew in my head, and was turning around,
Down the chimney St Nicholas came with a bound.
He was dressed all in fur, from his head to his foot,
And his clothes were all tarnished with ashes and soot.
A bundle of Toys he had flung on his back,
And he looked like a peddler, just opening his pack.
His eyes-how they twinkled! his dimples how merry!
His cheeks were like roses, his nose like a cherry!
His droll little mouth was drawn up like a bow,
And the beard of his chin was as white as the snow.
The stump of a pipe he held tight in his teeth,
And the smoke it encircled his head like a wreath.
He had a broad face and a little round belly,
That shook when he laughed, like a bowlful of jelly!
He was chubby and plump, a right jolly old elf,
And I laughed when I saw him, in spite of myself!
A wink of his eye and a twist of his head,
Soon gave me to know I had nothing to dread.
He spoke not a word, but went straight to his work,
And filled all the stockings, then turned with a jerk.
And laying his finger aside of his nose,
And giving a nod, up the chimney he rose!
He sprang to his sleigh, to his team gave a whistle,
And away they all flew like the down of a thistle.
But I heard him exclaim, ?ere he drove out of sight,
"Happy Christmas to all, and to all a good-night!"
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"Happy Christmas to all, and to all a good-morning!"
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Merry Belly Filling Day to one and all :)
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Christmas Day winds to a close ... and we managed to avoid any
temptation to eat through the pain barrier. I think a nice quiet
Boxing Day is now in order, perhaps with a little viewing of the Boxing
Day Test between Oz and SriLanka.
Hope everyone has enjoyed (or is enjoying) the day.
:-*
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Merry Christmas everyone!
We had a good fall of snow last
week so our Christmas will be white with a high of -7 C. It's still very
early here in Gatineau Qu?bec so I am the only one stirring (my tea,
that is).
We had to rush to Montr?al on Saturday to visit a
friend in the hospital. On the way back, late Sunday afternoon, we
encountered a long line of cars in stretching in front of us as far as
we could see. We were about 50 kilometers from our destination
(Ottawa-Gatineau) and had so slow to between 30 and 50 km/hr. This was
on a four lane divided highway where the speed limit is 100 km/hr! We
have never experienced this before on this highway and can only guess
that people were returning home to celebrate Christmas with their
families. The good thing was that the pavement was clear and not icy.
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Indeed. I do hope you are all having a great Christmas! Sounds
like it went well with you, Steeleye...well done! ;D
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I wish you all a very Merry Christmas :)
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Merry Christmas to all!
Just a 1cm. dusting so the kids in our area will have a White Christmas.
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A very merry Christmas everyone, and a wonderful 2013 when it arrives!
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Christmas day is dawning here in the Pacific Northwest, kids still
abed. Their grandfather recited from memory 'Twas the night before
Christmas last night (as on every Christmas eve) but they were a bit too
excited to sit still. A surprise visit from Mr C himself sent them
through the roof - the youngest ran outside afterwards, and spotted the
blinking red nose of Rudolf receding in the distance (accompanied by the
low rumble of jet engines). Now the family hubbub is about to begin.
Happy holiday to all (whatever time zone you're in) and long live the
magic!
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The young who truly believe renew our faith in the magic for a very
long time. Have a wonderful Christmas day with your family, Kevin.
(http://www.desismileys.com/smileys/desismileys_6487.gif)
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Christmas
day is dawning here in the Pacific Northwest, kids still abed. Their
grandfather recited from memory 'Twas the night before Christmas last
night (as on every Christmas eve) but they were a bit too excited to sit
still. A surprise visit from Mr C himself sent them through the roof -
the youngest ran outside afterwards, and spotted the blinking red nose
of Rudolf receding in the distance (accompanied by the low rumble of jet
engines). Now the family hubbub is about to begin. Happy holiday to all
(whatever time zone you're in) and long live the magic!
Hope you're having a great day with family Kevin. Kids do get so excited by it all..isn't it fun?! ;D
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Hello OW. Hope you all had a great day.
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A few days ago, our UK shipmates were being washed out to sea; now
it looks like our North American colleagues are being blown out to sea
(http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-12-27/massive-storm-system-wreaks-havoc-in-us/4444710
(http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-12-27/massive-storm-system-wreaks-havoc-in-us/4444710)).
At least down here the major Christmas hazard was only over-indulgence.
I trust that everybody is OK up yonder?
???
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Here in western New York State the snow started about 9:30GMT. We
have about 10cm on the ground with another 10-15 due by morning. Temp is
-4 and the winds are expected to peak somewhere around 60 -70kph
overnight. Not too bad since the talking heads have been at it for
a week so everybody was warned. ;) Snowblower is gassed and we'll
worry about it in the morning ;D
We'll see........
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Here
in western New York State the snow started about 9:30GMT. We have about
10cm on the ground with another 10-15 due by morning. Temp is -4 and
the winds are expected to peak somewhere around 60 -70kph
overnight. Not too bad since the talking heads have been at it for
a week so everybody was warned. ;) Snowblower is gassed and we'll
worry about it in the morning ;D
We'll see........
At
my sister's in Cleveland, it is 32?F (0?C) dropping down to a low of
20?F (-7?C) with only scattered snow showers and flurries
tomorrow. I'm getting on the train to Chicago tonight, and going
back to a slight improvement: lows of about 30?F (-1?C) and no predicted
snow at all. I'm actually wishing for the snow - so far our
winter is continuing the summer drought. But I admit what I have
makes for easier traveling.
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Morning OW.
Rain and coastal gales here.
Be careful in those winter storms, US.
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If anyone sees Oxfordshire floating past - don't be surprised ::)
SOrry to hear about continuing drought in the US. :(
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Did everybody survive Boxing Day uninjured?
I mean, who's bright idea was it to have a boxing contest the day after Christmas? ???
I thought it was all about peace on earth and such. ;) :P
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Christmas Day & Boxing Day here were (relatively) cold - 18C on
Xmas Day. We usually have salads for lunch on the 25th because of
the heat. Those who went the traditional route with the hot roast
and steaming Christmas pud this year were laughing at the rest of
us. Things are now back to normal, with 28-32 for most of the next
week. Today was particularly beautiful - 27C, almost cloudless
and windless. I almost feel embarassed by our good fortune ...
almost, but not quite.
Stay well and safe, good people.
::)
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Changing the subject away from Christmas pud, have a look at this
interactive image of the region around Everest -
http://www.smh.com.au/technology/sci-tech/everest-interactive?rand=1356580272023
(http://www.smh.com.au/technology/sci-tech/everest-interactive?rand=1356580272023).
An
article from the Canberra Times newspaper
(http://www.canberratimes.com.au/technology/sci-tech/everest-for-armchair-explorers-38bpixel-image-offers-stunning-detail-20121227-2bxcd.html
(http://www.canberratimes.com.au/technology/sci-tech/everest-for-armchair-explorers-38bpixel-image-offers-stunning-detail-20121227-2bxcd.html))
gives some background detail. When you start playing around with
the image, you can see how magical the area is.
Have fun!
:)
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Pretty neat, Steeleye! I think a webcam at the top would be the ultimate.
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Did everybody survive Boxing Day uninjured?
I mean, who's bright idea was it to have a boxing contest the day after Christmas? ???
I thought it was all about peace on earth and such. ;) :P
I
bet I know what my boss would say if I turned up with a box to fill on
Boxing Day...but we are always polite here so I shan't say... ;) ;D
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I know what he would say, too.
It starts with 'W'.
And ends with 'hat are you doing?'. ;D
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;D
Boxing Day is only tolerable when you stay away from the stores.
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What stores ?
???
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Shopping centres and the like. I'm not talking about ships' stores ;)
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Just caught the news- I hope all our North America folk are safe and well - pictures of the snow look very dramatic! :o
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It's just an ordinary winter snow storm here in Ottawa/Gatineau. It's not even blowing - so far, at least.
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Turned out OK. -5c and only 25cm snow. The blowing and drifting they
forecast didn't materialise. Just a normal winter storm here in
Niagara Falls. :D
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Oh WOW! Is that your back garden Dean....it's a winter wonderland...cool :o 8)
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Fantastic. ;D
For me, as usual, when Christmas comes +5 C rain and wind. :-X
Beautifully. ;D
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Hope all of you in the States are OK - tornadoes and 18 inches of
snow makes the perpetual rain in the UK seem pretty tame by comparison.
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We have high winds -
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Hope they're not going to blow in anything worse - stay safe!
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Thanks - I just glad we have not lost our power - I was getting gas
for my van, and I thought I was going to be blown into the side of the
car.
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:o You take care Kathy! :-* :-*
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Thanks - I think it sounds worse than it was - I was reminded of the scene in Rudolph
where the wind blows all the packages around - I had a funny mental
picture of all of us at the gas station being tumbled around like that -
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Oh WOW! Is that your back garden Dean....it's a winter wonderland...cool :o 8)
We got our winter wonderland! Yesterday that was mud and grass!!
That's
the back of the lot behind the house taken from from the deck. It's
about 22X15m. We didn't put up a tree inside this year - just went to
the local Department Store and bought 3 cheap trees with lights and lit
one that is planted there. When the season is over I'll box the trees
and store them 'til next year. The flash caught the snow flakes on the
way down. I thought it looked sort of cool! ;)
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yep - noticed those super cool floaty snowflakes. 8) 8)
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Good morning OW. Dark and rainy; no change there. :D
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Good evening Caro and OW.
Warm and sunny here (well it was until the sun went down a short time ago). Life is so tough at the moment.
::) ;D
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And we are still chipping away at setting some records in prolonged
warmth and lack of snow. The drought continues. Cleveland at
least got about 2 inches Wednesday, and the northern suburbs got about
half an inch of lake-effect snow. (It doesn't seem to have gone
far enough inland to get recorded at OHare as official.)
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I just had a thought. With most OWers being in the opposite
hemisphere to Stuart and I, perhaps I should invert my avatar to make it
appear the right way up to you northerners. How did I do?
???
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Successfully upside down and confused. If you teleported
through the earth to other OW sites, did you strap everything in so they
wouldn't fall out of the boat and sink? ;)
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If the good ship HMS Snowflake in my avatar also appears upside-down to you Janet, do you realise what we have just proved?
The Earth is flat.
:o
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Or I borrowed the good ship Enterprise and teleported you successfully exactly as you represent yourself. ;D
(http://fc03.deviantart.net/fs24/f/2008/009/b/4/USS_Enterprise_NCC_1701_F_by_Lambda_Omega.jpg)
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::) + ;D
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Hello OW - this is officially the wettest year in England since
records began, and (at the moment) the third wettest in the UK.
Given that we began the year with dire predictions of drought this is a
bit of a surprise .... ::)
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oncebubble ablooplgain thebble weabubblether predicblooptors get it
wrobubbleng...hang on...that's better - it's difficult to talk with a
snorkel in your mouth. So - once again the weather predictors get it
wrong. ::)
I'm off to stay with a friend tonight. We (me and
another visiting friend) suspect that the route up from the South of
Oxford will be well under water...so we'll go via town, but there might
be a police block stopping unnecessary visitors from getting down to
their house. If we get there it will be one of our biannual
cards-to-three-in-the-morning-sessions. ;D
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Enjoy - wetsuit and flippers are the latest tourist chic.
I was reading of the death of the Thunderbirds creator - I think we could do with some of his vehicles at the moment!
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If the good ship HMS Snowflake in my avatar
I'm glad you explained that.
If you only glance at the avatar, you would thing it is something seasonal, e.g. the top of Santa's head and cap. :D
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It does rather ;D
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Just put up the weather station that Santa brought :)
NW 1 29.60 Air 54.3
Can't manage sea temp, perhaps something in the pond ......
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Something for the addiction thread perhaps? Sea temperature
shouldn't be too hard at the moment - there must be a large puddle
somewhere near ....
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Sailing into the future of global trade? (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-20792058)
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Wouldn't that be wonderful!
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According to the course I'm currently studying - The Lost World of
Sailing Ships - sail survived alongside steam for a long time because
there were plenty of routes where sail was more economical. I was
quite surprised to learn that where the winds were reliable sailing
ships could make the same sort of speeds as the early steam ships and
required a much smaller crew. So as the prices of fossil fuels
increase maybe there would be routes where sail became practicable
again?
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I don't know how long I can stay like this but will give it a try.
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I can feel the blood rushing to my head just looking at you - don't try it for too long!
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Of course if you guys ever go face up then WE will have to flip over to be right for you!!!!! :D
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I do believe we are due for a reversal, we may even be overdue.
(There is a number sequence that covers all both eventualities.)
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Hello OW, ʇɹɐnʇS ollǝH.
Oh look; the forecast is for heavy rain, 10am-4pm.
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9 out of 10 for that one, Caro - very clever!
;D ;D ;D
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Hello OW, ʇɹɐnʇS ollǝH.
Oh look; the forecast is for heavy rain, 10am-4pm.
Very clever. And the forecast is correct as well - though at the moment that doesn't take a lot of guessing ....
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If the rain in the UK doesn't let up soon there will likely be
people 100 years in the future reading logs about the Royal Navy saving
OW members from the floods! :o
Stay safe, friends!!!! ;)
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If you start to see animals pairing off, head for the hills! :o :o
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If you start to see animals pairing off, head for the hills! :o :o
:D :D :D
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Evening Caro and O.W.
"Hello OW, ʇɹɐnʇS ollǝH.
Oh look; the forecast is for heavy rain, 10am-4pm."
It's raining ☁ now ☂ and it's only 07:00.
Lovely day ☼ yesterday though.
I'm going to have to go back to 'Normal' soon.
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;D
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??sn ɟo ʇsǝɹ ǝɥʇ ɹoɟ ʇ,uǝɹǝʍ ʇı ɟı lɐɯɹou ǝɹǝʍ noʎ ʍouʞ ǝldoǝd lɐɯɹou noʎ plnoʍ ʍoH ;D
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If we Down Under, did not balance out You Up Ove,r then you would be Down Under and you would know. ;D
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All this upside-down / rightside-up got me thinking about the nature
and origin of up/down in our maps. Why did the first maps drawn
with geographic directions on them settle on north at the top instead of
at the bottom? Why not north on the right, south on the left? I
suspect that there is an answer to this, although I haven't seen it yet
All
this top / bottom, clockwise / anticlockwise stuff is a bit of a furphy
in any case as our orientation in space is totally arbitrary. There
certainly isn't an up/down in space!
Speaking of space (as one
does), I recently started reading a book by the physicist Brian Greene,
'The fabric of the cosmos'. He also produced a television series
on a similar subject recently - wonderful viewing. In the first section
of the book - "Reality's Arena" - he summarises ideas on the different
forms of reality (classical, relativistic, quantum, cosmological,
unified, and past and future). The philosophical question of 'what
space is' makes my head hurt. It's amazing that some of our most
accepted concepts are the most difficult to actually grasp.
Enough of this nonsense - time for a walk (classical, not quantum).
;D ???
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From 'Knowswhy.com: Why is North up?
The direction of North
to be always up and east at the right was carried out by Ptolemy, who is
an Egyptian astronomer. Ptolemy lived between 90-168 A D. The places
that were popular existed in Northern Hemisphere. These places are
conveniently positioned on the flat map at the right hand upper side.
Many map creators prevailed during medieval ages like boorstin.
Before
Renaissance, there was not specific orientation fixed for a map. The
placement of North in the upward direction of the globe became a
fashion. If North is up then the important landmasses are lost at the
downward direction. If east and west are up then the North and South
will be right and left. The names of the places will be noticed right
side up of the one side of the globe. Ptolemy has prepared the map
structure in such a way that latitude and longitude are the part of the
actual framework for mapping the globe in small scale fashion. The
Portolan maps and charts are provided with the arrangement of compass
roses and rhumb lines while creating the map. In this type of map
creation, North will not be always up.
The area or the space that
is utilized for mapping or creating charts on the available surface has
the orientation also pre-defined. According to the popular projections
of Mercator, North is naturally considered being in the upward
direction. Here, we are concentrating on small scale mapping. But, in
large scale mapping the direction and orientation is displayed according
to the necessities of the area or region. The best projection for a
particular direction shows less amount of distortion on the surface of
the map or chart. The projection measure will be the factor for
orientation of map or chart of any scale. If North is up on the globe,
every one prefers to refer to that map.
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Quote Steeleye. - "All this top / bottom, clockwise / anticlockwise stuff is a bit of a furphy ....."
THIS, is a REAL Furphy and I believe the origin of the word Furphy (for all our Overseas OWers) ;D
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Furphy)
The
carts, with "J. Furphy & Sons" written on their tanks, became
popular as gathering places where soldiers could exchange gossip,
rumours and fanciful tales?much like today's water cooler discussion.
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;D
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Morning all. Nice furphies.
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Do we need a furphy sub-section of the Chat heading, then? Some
chatters may not want to furphy and vice-versa. I can't imagine Ptolemy
furpheying, for example.
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OK ... getting back to the real, non-furphy world ...
I have
just been watching "Stephen Hawking's grand design: the key to the
cosmos". An excellent documentary with fascinating explanations of
things ranging from relativity to the quantum world to string theory,
and to the possibility that we inhabit just one of billions of
universes. (I expect that our colleagues in the civilised, northern
world would have seen this film a couple of years ago; we can be a bit
slow getting things down here.)
Once again, I sort of understood
some of it, and simultaneously got hopelessly frustrated by a lot of it.
One of my life's ambitions, apart from finishing the history for HMS
Jupiter, is to extend my understanding of 'some of it' to an
understanding of 'more of it'. By the time that I fall off my
branch (in our own little universe), I expect that I will still be
feeling frustrated.
:'( :'( :'( :'( :'(
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I know what you mean, Steeleye. I read Hawkings's A Brief
History of Time twice and I still don't understand most of it. However,
when I read the NewScientist articles on physics I do have a general
idea of what they are talking about. They often repeat the basic
concepts so after a while, while still confusing, the words become
familiar. I kept telling myself I wouldn't learn all the details until
they are sure they've got it right but it doesn't seem that this is
going to happen in my lifetime (even though NewScientist is always
announcing big breakthroughs on the cover).
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I think 'A brief history of time' was the beginning of my descent
into madness. Many of the authors of these sorts of books (and the
documentaries that they spawn) have a gift for explaining the
complexities of both the cosmic and the sub-atomic ... and I still don't
get it! It's about time to re-read Jim Al-Khalili's (now there's
an interesting name!) 'Quantum: a guide for the perplexed'. He
really has a talent for writing and his illustrator is similarly
talented. It's well worth a read if you can get a copy ... and you
are also a mental masochist!
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My friend lent me a book on the subject - might have been the same
one. Of course, as the noted physicist said, if you think you understand
quantum theory, you don't. But some of us don't understand it worse
than others. :D
There was a good cartoon on the subject
some time ago - a fellow looking at a selection of greeting cards with a
puzzled expression on this face. There were the usual categories:
weddings, birthdays, condoleances, etc, and the final one was
entanglements.
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I love the 'Entanglements' category!
The quote that I think
you refer to is also on the back of the Al-Khalili book: 'Anyone who is
not shocked by quantum theory has not understood it' (Niels Bohr).
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Jim Al-Khalili's TV series for the BBC/Open University, 'Shock and
Awe: The Story of Electricity', was so good that even I understood most
of it.
As for Hawking's A Brief History of Time ... half way in, I'm lost.
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I like the anecdote at the beginning about the little old lady
reacting to an astronomer's lecture about the nature of our galaxy.
'"What you have told us is rubbish. The world is really a flat plate
supported on the back of a giant tortoise". The scientist gave a
superior smile before replying, "What is the tortoise standing
on?" "You're very clever, young man, very clever," said the old
lady. "But it's turtles all the way down!"'.
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One key concept to grasp in quantum mechanics is that it is very
difficult (at one time thought to be impossible) to measure anything
really small without changing it in some way.
Another is to try to
grasp the idea of probability - it isn't impossible that all the atoms
of air in your room will rush out of the window, just so very unlikely
that it would take many times longer than the age of the universe to
happen.
Once you get into the maths the concept of zero becomes very,
very important and it gets truly mind boggling. I can sort of
follow A Brief History of Time but I left physics over the maths, I just
wasn't thinking the right way and couldn't follow the logic.
But if
you can follow some of the ideas, the quantum world is exciting,
fascinating and will reveal so much of how our world works - wait for
graphene to come into technology.
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I
like the anecdote at the beginning about the little old lady reacting
to an astronomer's lecture about the nature of our galaxy. '"What you
have told us is rubbish. The world is really a flat plate supported on
the back of a giant tortoise". The scientist gave a superior smile
before replying, "What is the tortoise standing on?" "You're very
clever, young man, very clever," said the old lady. "But it's turtles
all the way down!"'.
::) ;D ;D ;D ;D
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I
like the anecdote at the beginning about the little old lady reacting
to an astronomer's lecture about the nature of our galaxy. '"What you
have told us is rubbish. The world is really a flat plate supported on
the back of a giant tortoise". The scientist gave a superior smile
before replying, "What is the tortoise standing on?" "You're very
clever, young man, very clever," said the old lady. "But it's turtles
all the way down!"'.
Diskworld?
(Only one Turtle though.)
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Jim
Al-Khalili's TV series for the BBC/Open University, 'Shock and Awe: The
Story of Electricity', was so good that even I understood most of it.
As for Hawking's A Brief History of Time ... half way in, I'm lost.
Jim
Al-Khalili's "Order and Disorder" was pretty good too. But I'm
much more comfortable with thermodynamics than quantum theory! I
did buy "A Brief History of Time" but it eventually went to a charity
shop unread, I'm afraid.
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I
like the anecdote at the beginning about the little old lady reacting
to an astronomer's lecture about the nature of our galaxy. '"What you
have told us is rubbish. The world is really a flat plate supported on
the back of a giant tortoise". The scientist gave a superior smile
before replying, "What is the tortoise standing on?" "You're very
clever, young man, very clever," said the old lady. "But it's turtles
all the way down!"'.
Diskworld?
(Only one Turtle though.)
I
hadn't heard of Diskworld before, Stuart. I see that it has 4 elephants
supporting the disk and standing on a giant turtle. This makes much
more sense since a turtle's round shell could not keep a flat disk
stable. Therefore, it must be elephants and turtles all the way down. I'll let you break the news to Hawking.
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I think the series of books by Terry Pratchett are well worth reading (if you have a weird sense of humor. )
See Here (http://www.au.lspace.org/books/reading-order-guides/) for suggested reading order.
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Good morning OW.
Party time?
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Good morning Caro...yes party time! A bottle of something is
chilling in the fridge - there's nothing to beat a good ginger
beer ;) ;)
We should be hearing corks popping from Steeleye and Stuart pretty soon?
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Hi Joan. Nice bottle of Portuguese cava in my fridge.
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Sounds yummy! ;D
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8.35pm here. Now, we don't want to hear of any of the good citizens of OW embarassing themselves - OK?
2012 was a rollicking good year on the logs. Here's hoping that 2013 is at least as productive.
::)
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H.N.Y. to you all when it is your time.
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From Stuart (and I am sure Steeleye)
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... and the sun has set on 2012 down here
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I think the series of books by Terry Pratchett are well worth reading (if you have a weird sense of humor. )
See Here (http://www.au.lspace.org/books/reading-order-guides/) for suggested reading order.
If you haven't read Terry Pratchett I envy you - you have much to look forward to in 2013! ;D
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Having just watched the fireworks on City Hill from our balcony - all of 400 metres away - I think that it must now be 2013.
Have a great New Year everyone, and may all your ships come in.
Cheers,
Steeleye
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Good
morning Caro...yes party time! A bottle of something is chilling in the
fridge - there's nothing to beat a good ginger beer ;) ;)
We should be hearing corks popping from Steeleye and Stuart pretty soon?
That reminded me that I've got some Crabbie's alcoholic ginger beer I'd not got round to over Christmas.
THANKS ;D
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I think the series of books by Terry Pratchett are well worth reading (if you have a weird sense of humor. )
See Here (http://www.au.lspace.org/books/reading-order-guides/) for suggested reading order.
If you haven't read Terry Pratchett I envy you - you have much to look forward to in 2013! ;D
And
for anyone who enjoys Terry Pratchett but is running out of books, may I
suggest you try Jasper Fforde's Thursday Next novels? I
think there is a very significant overlap between their readerships.
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Yes, I've moved to Jasper Fforde too - definitely some similarities in terms of sheer inventiveness.
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That's beautiful! Thanks szukacz - and happy new year when it arrives.
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Happy New Year to all as it arrives! :-*
Some of the places around here celebrate at NOON for those who can't stay awake 'til Midnight!
We'll hang in there!! ;)
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Greetings from Gandalf
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Wishing you all good health and happy times for the year ahead for you and yours. Love, Joan
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;D Good one Joan.
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happy new year!
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Very festive, Caro!
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love the twinkles Caro ;D
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And a good New Year for us all!!
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I'll second that Janet!
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Happy New Year folks. May all your ships come safe to harbour.
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Australia Celebrated .
https://www.youtube.com/tv?vq=medium#/watch?v=_crNUYe3q8g&mode=transport
The full firework shows were very good. 9PM & Mid.
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Hi Stuart - GMT just made it! Happy New Year to you.
We saw 7 tons of fireworks going off on the Harbour Bridge at your end on the news! ;D ;D
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What an idiot I am I just looked at the clip and it was LAST years.
will try and find this years clip. :-[
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;D ;D ;D ;D
Hey - it was spectacular - and New Year - who's counting??? ;D ;D
PS - oh yes - no Kylie!
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Hey Stuart. Happy New Year. ;D Also saw your fireworks on our National News AND on the local Canadian station!
Four and a half to go here so we'll wait it out (or maybe fall asleep and watch it on tomorrow's news!) :D
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Enjoy it when you get there Dean! ;D 52 minutes into 2013 here
and no disasters yet...so I'm off to
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