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:D Happy New Year shipmates!!
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And Happy New Year to you!!!
Just finished watching the Chicago fireworks on TV - a very nice way to welcome the new.
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Happy New Year to all crews
Coffee and croissants are ready for a late morning breakfast
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Good morning all. Hope you've all recovered from the New Year/Hogmanay celebrations. ;D
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At one time, speciality officers had a coloured ring between the
rings of gold braid on their sleeve, a practice that has now I
understand been discontinued. Medical officers had a red band, leading
to a joke that is presumably now redundant.
Dizzy blonde at party to handsome young officer, "So tell me, what do those rings on your sleeve mean?"
Officer, "I'm a naval surgeon actually".
Blonde, "Goodness, how you boys do specialise these days".
Happy new year to blondes everywhere.
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:D :D LOL dorbel! Thanks I needed a good laugh after working the weekend double shifts no less. Good day OW!
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Hiya Liz. ;D
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:D :D Hello Caro the weather here is oc but for the rest of
the week it should be sunny and clear with warmer temps. ;D It
will be nice to *see* the sun again.
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Good morning szukacz, good morning guests. :D
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Hi Caro,
date 15 jan 2011 :-X
Loc: 49 49 29 53 S 18 55 25 57 E (home sweet home)
Var 0.1 oRg Temp 6C (thermometer in Fahrenheit lost in an accident) ;D
morale high 8)
Average motivation :P
REGARDS 4all
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We have more guests than the Marriot right now. Hello, everyone.
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Hello everybody. I just want to say that this is the best set of
people that one could ask for. All ranks and ratings from top to bottom
are polite, helpful, enthusiastic and charming. Our moderators are
superb, take a bow all, many thanks to you.
Our volunteers are just
brilliant, no names but from the world class expert who appears to know
the names of every stoker who ever lifted a shovel to the Pole who
tackles log books in appalling scribble without fear, I raise a glass to
you all. Where are the trolls, the moaners, the pessimists? Somehow,
they didn't sign on.
Many years ago I joined the Navy, for a
career that proved to be all too short, for reasons that don't matter
now, but on my first and only ship I once raised my voice to offer an
opinion.
An elderly PO (i.e probably 45) looked at me with scorn.
"'Ark at 'im" he said, "Six weeks a sailor and never a Christmas at
'ome".
I suspect that my frequent presence in the forums (fora?)
laying down the law to one and all sometimes generates the same response
in the minds of the real experts. I plead enthusiasm, a quality that
appears to be universal here.
Thank you all.
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Thank you Dorbel for those beautiful words.
You are right: We
are all enthusiasts and the work we are doing is fascinating even when a
ship is moored for a long period at the same place, there is always
something going on.
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well put, indeed. 'tis lovely to be part of this project...
Carolyn
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Tis a pleasure to be a part of your crew, Cap'n Dorbel, sir! :D
yours -
Kathy W.
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To one and all, as a newbie I find the forum most interesting and am
inspired by the enthusiasm, encouraged by the support and amazed by the
wealth of knowledge! Being alongside this crew, I reckon we can sail
through the whole voyage,
Admiration and respect to everyone,
Kugee :D
"Let me, land-lubber, sail with this tide of humanity and feel the power of the people"
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Good morning Geoff, good morning OW. :D
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back at ye, Dorbel, and especially cheers to the patient & knowledgeable moderators!
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Morning Caro and other landlubbers. Lots of coffee here :)
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Hiya Geoff and OW crew. ;D
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Hi
As it isnt possible to post replies to the new instructions pages I just thought I would record here how impressive they are.
Well
done to all of the team who have painstakingly written these out. They
are really clear and will dramatically reduce errors and time wasted
posting questions, etc.
Thank You
K
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We want to keep them uncluttered, but opening your own topics under FAQs is fine.
And thank you!! It's been a group effort among us mods. :)
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Morning shipmates!
The new instruction pages are very good, clear and concise with examples where needed. Good job to those involved :)
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Morning all! ;D
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Good morning OW-ers :D
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Am resurfacing after Christmas and New Year. Many thanks to
the various crew members who've managed to get Raven II's data past
today's date - long an ambition of mine. Special hello to
Greenwich Docksiders. And, by the way, is Raven the most boring
ship yet?
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Good morning all. Nice to see you back, muchdistressed. ;D
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Allo allo allo, mateys.
Good to see everyone. (Hiya, Geoff! Long time no see.)
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Morning Deej and OW people. Still dark in the UK but about to start work on HMS Capetown.
Coffee on the go here :)
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And I'm just about to crash for the night, midnight being my night-owl idea of sleep-time. Have fun with Capetown. :)
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Big cup of black coffee for Geoff, please, Barkeep.
How's life on the moon these days, Geoff?
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Hi Deej
Still working on the Moon and Old Weather and various other projects.
How's the weather in your neck of the woods - rainy as usual?
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Is this the right thread to post in to moan? I'm getting a bit fed
up with the fact that about five times a day, my ship's crew board
various trawlers, steamers, barques and sealers (I never even knew that
was a word) and then the muppets who are currently keeping the log write
a report in tiny writing,
so I can barely decipher the names of the ships and their
destinations.:( Every time it takes me ages to work out, and then what?
Some Swedish trawler was allowed to proceed to the fishing grounds. Big
deal...
Bleh.
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mutabilitie, if you didn't want to moan, you wouldn't be human! ALL the boards are appropriate places to moan!
Suggestion for the tiny writing
problem: browsers have their own built-in magnifier. The image of
the log page can be enlarged several ways. You can use the
mousewheel plus CTRL to enlarge the image. In IE8, CTRL and the
"+" key magnifies it and CTRL and the "-" key reduces it. The OW
magnifier itself is also magnified by this process. Other browsers
also have this option built into them, using different controls.
The OW magnifier also get enlarged, making what you're transcribing very
manageable.
As for not-much-happening, find a ship with a very
different log and use it as a 'vacation' ship. Going back and
forth will keep your mind fresh. Examples of ships that are
different: HMS Endeavour and Iroquois are a Survey Vessels; HMS
Wonganella is a Submarine Decoy Ship; Woodlark, Woodcock and others are
River Gunboats; HMS Manica is a Kite Balloon Ship, whatever that is; HMS Alacrity is a Despatch Vessel; HMS Tenby Castle is an Armed Trawler with wildly different logs.
Just go shopping, and come back toyour current ship when you are ready.
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mutabilitie, if you didn't want to moan, you wouldn't be human! ALL the boards are appropriate places to moan!
Thanks, that made me feel a lot better.:)
Suggestion for the tiny writing
problem: browsers have their own built-in magnifier. The image of
the log page can be enlarged several ways. You can use the
mousewheel plus CTRL to enlarge the image. In IE8, CTRL and the
"+" key magnifies it and CTRL and the "-" key reduces it. The OW
magnifier itself is also magnified by this process. Other browsers
also have this option built into them, using different controls.
The OW magnifier also get enlarged, making what you're transcribing very
manageable.
The
trouble with the tiny writing isn't so much that it's too small but
that the letters are so squashed up they're barely legible. Magnifying
doesn't really get rid of that problem. I can still make out the
familiar phrases, but proper names are proving tricky, especially if
they're Icelandic and probably misspelt anyway!
I've always been
transcribing these encounters so far, because I thought entering every
ship's name I see might help with placing my ship more precisely and
possibly open up interesting connections for people who recognise the
names, but if I can't actually read them properly, there's not much
point, is there? *shrug*
As
for not-much-happening, find a ship with a very different log and use
it as a 'vacation' ship. Going back and forth will keep your mind
fresh. Examples of ships that are different: HMS Endeavour and
Iroquois are a Survey Vessels; HMS Wonganella is a Submarine Decoy Ship;
Woodlark, Woodcock and others are River Gunboats; HMS Manica is a Kite
Balloon Ship, whatever that is; HMS Alacrity is a Despatch Vessel; HMS Tenby Castle is an Armed Trawler with wildly different logs.
Just go shopping, and come back toyour current ship when you are ready.
Yes, I think I might try that - provided I can find a ship with legible handwriting.;)
Edit:
I've found a holiday ship which is somewhere with disgustingly good
weather, and the logkeeper keeps making entries which effectively amount
to "10 am: the weather is nice. noon: the weather is really
nice. 5 pm: the weather is STILL nice".;D Poor guy, he must be so
bored... It makes for a nice change from the cold miserable weather on
the north coast of Iceland, though.
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Ha, I think I've figured out what a 'kite balloon ship' is! Kite balloons are weather balloons, so a kite balloon ship
would basically be a travelling weather station. And in that context,
all the comments about the nice weather and the endless versions of
'light breeze, smooth sea, nice weather' etc. actually make perfect
sense.
Not much else going on, though, of course, but hey, I'm on
holiday. And it couldn't get much different from my main ship than
this.:)
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Holidays are lovely!!
HMS Torch has been a lesson for me on
how to find proper place names that are scribbled illegibly - when they
are important because the log-keepers are not providing any other
location info! I've already decided, I'm going to post a list of
all the ports she uses when I'm done with the voyage, to help her second
and third transcribers. That will remove the large majority of
the stress all her earlier transcribers complained about.
For
Icelandic names, I recommend using google maps extensively, and save a
personal map with markers identifying your ship's form of the various
names.
Also, if you can find an early 20th century map with names
that match what your ship had, it helps immensely. The best I've
found for that, anywhere on the globe, is David Rumsey Historical Maps (http://www.davidrumsey.com/luna/servlet/browseByCategory). The best map of Iceland I've found there is this one
(http://www.davidrumsey.com/luna/servlet/detail/RUMSEY~8~1~34262~1171177:Denmark,-Sleswig,-Holstein---with-I?sort=Pub_List_No_InitialSort%2CPub_Date%2CPub_List_No%2CSeries_No&qvq=w4s:/where/Iceland;sort:Pub_List_No_InitialSort%2CPub_Date%2CPub_List_No%2CSeries_No;lc:RUMSEY~8~1&mi=29&trs=31).
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Janet Jaguar,
Thank you so much for that Iceland map
link!! I've been looking at what are obviously places sighted, but the
handwriting on Arlanza has been so bad ((of all ships - what happened to
standards?!) I had no idea what they were referring to - not even
enough letters to try to look it up. But on your map, I could see
right away they were "Westre Horn"and its partner "Ostre Horn".
Just wanted to make sure you knew this REALLY helped at least one of us!
Kathy
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Kathy,
I do know what you are saying - when log-keepers scribble, you have to look for the shape
of the name, which requires a detailed map!! Torch has been a
real education - her second year is going to be 10 times easier.
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The funny thing is that I've actually done a palaeography course!
Not in messy early 20th-century writing, though; I'm much better at
reading 17th-century secretarial hands - not that that's any use to me
here...;)
We were basically told not to look at overall shapes and
make assumptions but to count loops etc and look at what it really says
on the page, and which letter shapes match that.
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Wow, you know things are getting dramatic when the log suddenly becomes as wordy as this:
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ADM_53-48166/ADM%2053-48166-013_0.jpg
I love how after all that drama he falls straight back into weather-talk, though. ;D
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Do you have any online resources in this technique? Something
that's an overview for beginners. We could probably all use it. :)
The
funny thing is that I've actually done a palaeography course! Not in
messy early 20th-century writing, though; I'm much better at reading
17th-century secretarial hands - not that that's any use to me here...;)
We
were basically told not to look at overall shapes and make assumptions
but to count loops etc and look at what it really says on the page, and
which letter shapes match that.
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That looked like something to be published as a short story! Nice. [The writing, not the incident.] :)
Wow, you know things are getting dramatic when the log suddenly becomes as wordy as this:
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ADM_53-48166/ADM%2053-48166-013_0.jpg
I love how after all that drama he falls straight back into weather-talk, though. ;D
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Do
you have any online resources in this technique? Something that's
an overview for beginners. We could probably all use it. :)
There's
some pretty good introductory stuff on the National Archives website:
http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/palaeography/default.htm
Most of
it is geared towards much earlier handwriting, I think, but the same
basic rules apply, so it might still be helpful to people.
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That looked like something to be published as a short story! Nice. [The writing, not the incident.] :)
Yes.
There was also a nice passage a few pages later about how they saw
another ship in a similar situation. That one reads a bit like a
Hemingway short story:
Observed HM Thistle aground off Ras Sanguncka Do you require assistance Reply No.
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Thanks, mutabilitie, that site is interesting and puts a small twist
on my reading old handwriting that might be helpful - and a very big
sense of gratitude that the team didn't start us with much older logs!
I'm glad your vacation ship is proving to have this kind of interesting pages.
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Oh, I think I've just been lucky to get plunged into what was
probably one of the most exciting months, but it's definitely a nice
distraction. I bet there's going to be plenty of dull routine, but at
least it'll be dull routine in fine, clear, cloudy weather, with fresh
breezes and slight sea. Whatever any of that is supposed to mean
exactly.:D
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Just wanting a chance to moan to sympathetic people. I am now
waiting out the Chicago Blizzard of 2011 in my snug well-stocked
apartment.
We currently have weather readings of:
Wind NE,
Strength 7-9, Sky UocSQlt, Pressure 29.68 and falling, visibility
between 1/16 and 1/4 mile. The snow since 3PM is falling at a rate
of 1" to 2" per hour, so far 7.5" to 10" accumulated with another 10 to
14 hours to go. And yes, it is thunder-snow with lightning.
Half awe-inspiring and half down-right scary.
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Janet,
Just watched some schadenfreude shots of Chicago on the
WeatherChannel - including freezing waves breaking on the shore of Lake
Michigan. Brrrr!
May the Force (i.e. electric power) be with
you, and I hope you don't have to leave that warm apartment (this
is the emoticon for deciding whether to touch tongue to lightpole:
:P )
Kathy
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I must admit that even as a kid, touching my tongue to anything that
cold never tempted me. Call me inherently cautious. ;)
Close
to three hours after my post, I'm much more relaxed - some of which is
due to the fact that the horizontal snow has painted my screens and
windows opaque white. Somehow, once you can't see the problem, it
doesn't seem so bad.
This is most definitely not a normal Chicago
storm - probably closer to a once-in-twenty-years storm. Though
if it doesn't break the record, I have seen worse - and really don't
want to see that again.
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If someone is being 'waged' for insubordinate behaviour, does that mean he's fined?
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On a completely unrelated note, whenever I read about ships heading
off to various rendezvous positions in a log I have to think of that
1935 film with William Powell. Has anybody else seen that by any chance?
It probably isn't to everyone's taste, but I think it's great fun. It's
a WWI spy-story with a bit of decrypting thrown in (the main
protagonist spends a lot of time cracking laughably simple codes with
the help of a room full of code wheels), and ultimately it's about
finding a) a leak and b) a secret code which will protect a bunch of
ships which may well decide about the outcome of the war etc. So it's
all quite Enigma-y, really - except that in the middle of all
those character acting as though they're in a serious war film, there's a
female character who doesn't seem to get what kind of film she's in and
acts as though she were in a screwball comedy, so that she actually
ends up sabotaging the war effort far more than the German/Russian spy
ring. Not the most serious or historically accurate of war films, but
quite wacky and fun, especially the decrypting bit.:)
(Yes, as you can pobably tell by now, I'm a bit bored this afternoon...)
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Janet,
Glad you are warm, and well-stocked.
The weather folks had predicted ice for Maryland but the storm bypassed us entirely. :)
Stay safe...
Carolyn
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I know -
one little power hit and just sweet rain! ;D
yours -
Kathy W.
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I'm hoping you are staying clear - this has been highly memorable.
I
was stupid enough to go out to take pictures - I won't repeat that
today! The first one is looking at a supermarket just a block
(about 600 ft.) away, the second one looking at a railroad trestle
bridge just half a block away. The third one is from the National
Weather Service and is incomplete - the lake-effect snow of this morning
looks to be finally stopping - the storm may be past us by 1pm (except
for the shoreline in Indiana and Michigan - they probably have another
5" to 10" lake-effect snow coming.)
Being in the Medirerranean on Torch in October, 1920, feels very balmy right now.
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And it just keeps falling. There are some interesting
webcams in Chicago. Right now they all show the same image.
An ever-deepening blanket of white.
Stay warm, Janet.
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Oh, I am!!! Not out at all.
The last bit of this kind of
storm is coming in tonight - COLD. They are predicting low temps
of about 0F and wind chills of -20 to -25 F. That kind of deep
freeze always follows a bad blizzard. I am absolutely not going
out in that. 8)
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sounds like a day for some popcorn & netflix - when you're not keeping everyone here moderate.
warm thoughts to you, and everyone enduring this weather.
kathy
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I'm mostly praying strength and health for all the city workers out
in that cold trying to open our streets and restore our power.
They don't get enough thanks. :)
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A satellite view of the Big Snow:
http://www.publicradio.org/columns/marketplace/business-news-briefs/2011/02/nasa_satellite_photo_shows_meg.html
:o
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A chillingly accurate view of the storm's scope. Thank you.
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"The Day After Tomorrow" :o
Buy skis, gasoline, guns are coming hard times! ;D
But it will fall the snow!
rgds
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Good morning szukacz, good morning all. :D
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Good morning/Good evening, Caro, all!
I'm just about to crash for the night. See you tomorrow. :)
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It's been mega windy in London since last night. No idea of beaufort
number, but I suspect it's a bit more than Lt Airs, but not quite a
12...
;D
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I checked your weather on my World Clock, and they said you were
blowing a Half Gale (22 mph - 35/kph) or a force 6. That is not
minor.
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I'm mostly praying strength and health for all the city workers out
in that cold trying to open our streets and restore our power.
They don't get enough thanks.
JJ
If you can make yourself heard above the wind, open the window and give them some sea-going advice:
"One hand for yourself, one for the ship!"
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This is Chicago - all the years we don't get blizzards we still get
big snows (anything over 8" seriously interferes with driving
cars.) One of the points of pride in Chicago and area is that
after 72 hours of non-stop plowing, not one worker has been hurt.
And even among the firefighters, it was just a few minor injuries from
slipping on ice.
Safety first!
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I'm sure the Mayor is taking credit -- what a waste - he's not even running!
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Actually, he isn't - because he isn't running. His chief of
staff and all the department heads are doing that - the only thing he's
in trouble for among the public is the fact that he stayed home
Wednesday, missing all the necessary press conferences that announced
where we are and what is needed for the recovery and clean-up.
He knows he's not running, and getting involved rarely. For a change.
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Mornin, Euro Shipmates!
G'night, the rest of you. :)
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I
checked your weather on my World Clock, and they said you were blowing a
Half Gale (22 mph - 35/kph) or a force 6. That is not minor.
And
that's pretty much exactly half-way between Lt Airs and 12, so I was
right ;D And it's another blustery day here in London.
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According to the Met office, weather where I am is currently:
WSW 5-6 cd 30.00 53
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Morning Cyzaki and DJ. Very windy here too. ;D
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Morning, ladies.
Dead calm and... dark, basically, over here.
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Ditto here - I'm finally getting sleepy here, a good way to avoid the snow outside on a Saturday morning. ;)
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Well, I've just had my first time-travel experience on OW - it was a
bit of a shock. I was expecting the Mantua's logs to go on to
January 1919, according to the link on the naval-history website, but
no, at the end of March 1918 I suddenly found myself back in March 1915.
So,
it's goodbye to convoy duty to and from Sierra Leone, with only six
weather reports a day, sparsely written logs, and beautiful clear
handwriting. And hello again to the Atlantic Patrol with hourly
weather reports, every tiny detail noted, and in cramped,
difficult-to-read handwriting.
It's wonderful! It feels like coming home! :D
Su
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So,
it's goodbye to convoy duty to and from Sierra Leone, with only six
weather reports a day, sparsely written logs, and beautiful clear
handwriting. And hello again to the Atlantic Patrol with hourly
weather reports, every tiny detail noted, and in cramped,
difficult-to-read handwriting.
It's wonderful! It feels like coming home! :D
Su
You have a strange definition of 'wonderful', but whatever floats your armed merchant cruiser...;)
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Another day of drilling in the brain ;)
Good luck.
Google is your friend, and a Forum!
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Hello all. Hope your brain is OK szukacz. ;)
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;D
I'm going to do it yourself lobotomy: Starcraft 2!
I've had enough logs for today!
And for this to work tomorrow! :P :P :P :P
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Morning shipmates :)
Any plans for a spring meetup in Greenwich Maritime museum?
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Sounds like a great idea ! ;D
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Hello again, Geoff
Spring in Greenwich sounds just fine. Actually, it sounds better than fine.
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Morning shipmates.
Will see if I can find anything
specifically maritime happening in Greenwich in April/May which we can
use as an excuse for a meetup :D
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Morning Geoff. That sounds like a good idea.
Surely the weather will be kinder to us at that time! :D
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Morning all
Well, the weather couldn't be any worse, could it ? ;D
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For a change we have a beautiful day in sunny Somerset.
K
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Hey Tegwen, that makes us practically neighbours! (By OW
standards anyway.) I'm a few miles down the M5 in Exeter.
Su
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There was lovely weather here as well today, but it didn't do me any
good because I had to stay inside, agonising over my thesis. And I
didn't even get anywhere.:(
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Hi Su
Good to hear from you.
I am at the opposite end
of Somerset, near Frome, but even that is, as you say, practically next
door compared with those in the US or some of the other countries
involved.
It was great to have a day in the garden today, but I expect it will be more old weather tomorrow judging by the forecast.
Keith
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No, weather doesn't look very good for tomorrow in this part of the
world - you definitely chose the right day for the garden!
Tomorrow looks to me like a day for settling down and transcribing lots of logs!
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As promised definitely O R Q (all double underlined) today in Somerset.
K
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Oddly enough, it's just "Calm 0 or" in Exeter, though it was or
earlier - it's strange because apparently just a little way up the M5
they have had to delay lowering a motorway bridge into place due to the
high winds! ???
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Hey guys I'm new here oldweather.org looks wikid btw I also have a
community I would share of the weather perpective and enjoyment of
talking about weather related topics. and I would like all of you to
come by and see what you think.
metgroup.nwaf.org.uk (http://metgroup.nwaf.org.uk)
I will look around here and include of my weather reports here from the UK.
Thanks,
ST
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Welcome to OldWeather Forum - we are the back-story to the
discussions on your site, and would be pleased if any of your members
could join us here. Transcribing old ship logs is fun, and very
much a learning experience in history, global geography and naval
matters as well as providing solid data for climatologists. Please
make us known there.
I don't experience UK weather - but can
tell you that Chicago, IL, USA, is starting a lovely week-long thaw
after having a -7F (-22C) deep freeze last week as an aftermath to a
blizzard that dumped 20.2 inches of snow on us in less than 18
hours. I'm going to enjoy my sunny thaw a lot. :)
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Thankyou Janet we have linked oldweather.org to MetGroup's Weather
Data Center so members of our community will be able to visit
OldWeather.
Here in the UK we had quite a bad winter that we not
had for over 100 years most of the UK came to to a stand still Scotland
was extreamly hit bad with upto 30 cm of Snow with drifts and many were
stranded on major motorways the British Army had to be called in to
clear over 200 miles of major motorways.
Northern and Central UK
was also also hit bad and the south was hit from the Last bulk of the
Artic Blast and it shut down one of the Major Airports Heathrow in
London
At the moment temperature wise its quite moderate temps
around 8 - 10C with heavy rain turning to snow up northern parts
of the UK.
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12 inches of snow is a Big Snow in anyone's book. Climate warming is not kind.
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Yes it was quite alot of snow but the best is when your having fun
having a day or too of uni and work but when it all goes its back to
normality.
We predict we will have a nice hot summer this year in the UK and the usual stormy washout at the end of August into September.
Hopefully
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Hey
guys I'm new here oldweather.org looks wikid btw I also have a
community I would share of the weather perpective and enjoyment of
talking about weather related topics. and I would like all of you to
come by and see what you think.
metgroup.nwaf.org.uk (http://metgroup.nwaf.org.uk)
I will look around here and include of my weather reports here from the UK.
Thanks,
ST
You wouldn't happen to have any reliable weather forecasts for Oxford, would you?;)
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Hey
guys I'm new here oldweather.org looks wikid btw I also have a
community I would share of the weather perpective and enjoyment of
talking about weather related topics. and I would like all of you to
come by and see what you think.
metgroup.nwaf.org.uk (http://metgroup.nwaf.org.uk)
I will look around here and include of my weather reports here from the UK.
Thanks,
ST
You wouldn't happen to have any reliable weather forecasts for Oxford, would you?;)
We
can do you a reliable weekly forecast local for Oxford we mainly do UK
wide weekly forecasts but I do have a great member on MetGroup who could
help you out. Come by check us out post up your query on MetGroup and
one of the members will be willing to help you.
Thanks,
ST
;D
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Hey guys I'm new here oldweather.org
Welcome aboard ST,
Your nice friendly name suggests that you'll be good at organising lightning and stuff; that will be helpful.
A
word of caution: there are just three people around here worth
bothering with but I shan't name the other two - I don't want to risk
offending the rest. (A Mr. Clarkson just phoned to suggest I add a
;D here.)
I'm a little uncertain about your photo #3
(http://pictures.directnews.co.uk/liveimages/x_1944_19928113_0_0_7020117_300.jpg).
The mention of "Northerners" on your site led me to believe it is
Whitby. Closer inspection suggests it may be Rio de Janeiro. An easy
mistake to make, I'm sure you'll agree. Where is it, really?
Best wishes and all that,
Bunts
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I'm
a little uncertain about your photo #3
(http://pictures.directnews.co.uk/liveimages/x_1944_19928113_0_0_7020117_300.jpg).
The mention of "Northerners" on your site led me to believe it is
Whitby. Closer inspection suggests it may be Rio de Janeiro. An easy
mistake to make, I'm sure you'll agree. Where is it, really?
Whitby, obviously. Can't you see Dracula standing at the top of the cliff?
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Is that your 'phone?
It'll be Mr. Clarkson.
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I think it's the Bronx, as depicted in Jackie Chan's Rumble in the Bronx. that must be Mt. Bronx.
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Morning shipmates :)
I see that Caro has been mentioned
in dispatches over on the Moon Zoo forum:
http://forum.moonzoo.org/index.php?topic=535.0
(http://forum.moonzoo.org/index.php?topic=535.0)
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Blimey! Happy Valentine's Day to you Geoff. ;D
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We share the same birthday Geoff.
Keith
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We share the same birthday Geoff.
Keith
An auspicious day :D
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Is that your 'phone?
It'll be Mr. Clarkson.
You know, 90% of the time I have no clue what on earth your jokes are about. Is that a bad thing? :-\
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Morning shipmates :)
I
see that Caro has been mentioned in dispatches over on the Moon Zoo
forum: http://forum.moonzoo.org/index.php?topic=535.0
(http://forum.moonzoo.org/index.php?topic=535.0)
:D Now that is 1 8) 8) picture ;)
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;D
Incredible what you find
Congratulations
Have a nice day :)
ps.
I just find boring boulders and craters.
I also want this:)
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Quote from: stormtrooper0192
Hey guys I'm new here oldweather.org
Welcome aboard ST,
Your nice friendly name suggests that you'll be good at organising lightning and stuff; that will be helpful.
A
word of caution: there are just three people around here worth
bothering with but I shan't name the other two - I don't want to risk
offending the rest. (A Mr. Clarkson just phoned to suggest I add a
;D here.)
I'm a little uncertain about your photo #3
(http://pictures.directnews.co.uk/liveimages/x_1944_19928113_0_0_7020117_300.jpg).
The mention of "Northerners" on your site led me to believe it is
Whitby. Closer inspection suggests it may be Rio de Janeiro. An easy
mistake to make, I'm sure you'll agree. Where is it, really?
Best wishes and all that,
Bunts
Hi
there yes I looked into it and you may be right it could be Rio do
Janerio lol its abit of a fantancy here in the UK because we have a
different climate of weather which is very changable at times.
Yes
I'm now supporter of Oldweather we linked you guys up here at MetGroup
as part of our Weather Data Center (of resourcefull infomation).
Some
who may have been round to see our new community last night UK ealry
mrong may had bumped into a server error we had a bit of a hiccup at the
other end its all fixed now and back up online.
If you have not
already you can swap weather reports here at nationally and
international to we both serve globaly as well as the UK Weather.
metgroup.nwaf.org.uk (http://metgroup.nwaf.org.uk) feel free to join us and check us out.
Other than that weather in the UK aint been too bad around 10C and the North Sea is looking brisky as usual.
;D
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mutabilitie,
You know, 90% of the time I have no clue what on earth your jokes are about. Is that a bad thing?
I'm glad you asked.
No, it's a sign of intelligence and good taste.
Jeremy
Clarkson, journalist & presenter of TV programme Top Gear, is
continually in bother for non-pc and provocative remarks. He recently
upset the whole population of Mexico, apart from those with a sense of
humour.
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mutabilitie,
You know, 90% of the time I have no clue what on earth your jokes are about. Is that a bad thing?
I'm glad you asked.
No, it's a sign of intelligence and good taste.
Jeremy
Clarkson, journalist & presenter of TV programme Top Gear, is
continually in bother for non-pc and provocative remarks. He recently
upset the whole population of Mexico, apart from those with a sense of
humour.
Oh, I'm vaguely aware of Clarkson's existence, I just didn't really see the connection. Never mind, then.
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If you haven't already seen it, here is some very good news
(http://blogs.zooniverse.org/oldweather/2011/02/old-weather-sails-on/).
;D
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That's great news - even though it does mean that we'll probably go
straight from having completed nearly 50% of the logs to having
completed just 20% when the new logs are added.;)
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Could I interest anyone in a brief holiday in Tanzania, finishing
off the Manica
(http://www.oldweather.org/vessels/4caf8812cadfd3419701e301) logs?:)
She's
already at 95% and it's a relatively short time span, so we're only
talking about maybe 100 remaining log pages in total here - if that
much. 50 is probably a better estimate.
Life on the Manica isn't
particularly exciting (99% is dull routine), but on the bright side, the
logs are very quick and easy to transcribe: the handwriting's easily
legible, and as there are so few interesting occurrences noted in the
right-hand column, it's mostly just a straightforward matter of
transcribing the weather data.
So go on, go on, go on. ;D It would be nice to get another ship finished today.
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If
you haven't already seen it, here is some very good news
(http://blogs.zooniverse.org/oldweather/2011/02/old-weather-sails-on/).
;D
That is fantastic news! ;D
By
the way, I know there has been talk of doing older ships. Is
there no interest in WWII ships logs, with data 20/25 years on? Or
is that too soon to be useful? Just wondered.
Su
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If you get a front cover of a new log book, you will see a white
sticker on it with the year it can next be openned. All of the
logs are sealed by the Admiralty for 50 years. All court records
mentioned in the logs are sealed for 100 years. Which means if our
logs mention a Court Martial, we cannot yet look up what it was about.
WW
II is clearly now available - see the thread on "Bletchley Park
archive"
(http://forum.oldweather.org/index.php?topic=1111.msg10521#msg10521).
But from the summary of the grant our team received, our climatologists
are very eager to have a full global net giving them a climate picture
for all the world's oceans in those same years - something that was
totally impossible to do before OW.
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The Manica is at 97% now, thanks to Lancsgreybeard's valiant efforts.
Anyone? :(
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Help. Where are we? http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ADM_53-48171/ADM%2053-48171-018_0.jpg
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Help. Where are we? http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ADM_53-48171/ADM%2053-48171-018_0.jpg
So
far I've been transcribing this as 'Tirene', although I'm not 100%
certain that that's correct, because there seems to be no place with a
similar name in Tanzania. The first letter's definitely a T, though.
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Thanks. That's good enough for me. ;D
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Thanks. That's good enough for me. ;D
Ha,
I found it on an old map
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/21/Meyers_b14_s0300a.jpg)
(it's towards the bottom of the map, on the north coast of Mafia
Island. Apparently it really was called 'Tirene' at the time.
Thanks
for your help, by the way - I'm amazed at how quick you are. Next time
you're close to finishing off a ship and need some help to get it done a
bit more quickly, let me know.:)
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;D Hi all, The new colors are great. ;)
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Hi Liz. Good morning new forum. ;D
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I still haven't quite got used to the fact that some people who used to be green are now blue.:-\
So what exactly has the forum update improved, then, other than the quote boxes? Has the login problem gone?:)
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Did you notice the "Quick Reply" and drop box at the bottom? It will make replying much easier.
And I don't know yet what internal things are improved. :)
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Did you notice the "Quick Reply" and drop box at the bottom? It will make replying much easier.
Actually
I didn't notice it until you mentioned it, because the grey button to
open it was so unobtrusive. But thanks for pointing it out to me.
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Good morning OW. Weather conditions: g d >:( ;)
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o r over here.:(
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oR where I am.
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Good morning OW, bf here.
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o here with s forecast for next week
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Here in my part of Maryland -
Var / 8 / b
The wind is just amazing!
yours -
Kathy
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I've had enough! I thought I was never going to get that last page
updated, with so many boxes sticking all the time! So I'm calling
it a day, and will hope the site is feeling better tomorrow!
Goodnight!
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It has been very slow going tonight.
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My voyage on the Theseus ended tonight.
So this left me looking for a new ship. Any ideas ? :D
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I treat it as a fun shopping trip, and take my time browsing and enjoying the selections. :)
The way I do it usually is to first go to the Rankings list
(https://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0An8yHtxRRKO_dFRHQ01POU8zNC1IMllBdWw2MGpQREE&hl=en&authkey=CLrA08wC#gid=1)
and find a ship that needs me - sometimes as in almost done, sometimes
as in very empty. Then I check out its description on Naval-History.net
(http://www.naval-history.net/Oxon01-ShipList.htm). Then if the
description pleases me, I look at a log page for obvious problems.
(For example HMS Trent has a totally foreign log page layout that won't
fit in our interface.) The first one that looks nice in all three
places becomes my new one. (I don't fuss about determining
good/better/best.)
Other times, I start on Naval-History.net (http://www.naval-history.net/Oxon01-ShipList.htm) and read descriptions until I see something I like, and then check it on OW Vessels (http://www.oldweather.org/vessels) to see if it's still open.
I think the whole shopping expedition needs to be seen as fun. ;D
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Okay, so that's a shopping trip for me. ;D
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My voyage on the Theseus ended tonight.
So this left me looking for a new ship. Any ideas ? :D
The
HMS Trent (http://www.oldweather.org/vessels/4caf8bcecadfd34197033186)
is looking very forlorn at the moment... Or join me on the Patia
(http://www.oldweather.org/vessels/4caf897ccadfd34197026a16) if you
fancy transcribing neat but incredibly small handwriting and following
the reliably dull routine of the Northern Patrol. ;D
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Thanks mutabilitie
I tried the Trent, but the page layout is an acquired taste :D
I think I'll give the Patia a try .
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My voyage on the Theseus ended tonight.
So this left me looking for a new ship. Any ideas ? :D
Arlanza! mostly lovely handwriting, and lots of adventures!
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Thanks mutabilitie
I tried the Trent, but the page layout is an acquired taste :D
Oh so that's why no-one's doing it. I've been wondering about that for a while now.
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Good morning OW. (Good evening Liz.) ;D
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I'm desperate for someone to finish the Laurentic - my first ship and she's still languishing at 91%.
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If
you haven't already seen it, here is some very good news
(http://blogs.zooniverse.org/oldweather/2011/02/old-weather-sails-on/).
;D
It's
not that I'm short of logs to transcribe or anything, but I was just
wondering whether the new ships and logs will just be added as they
become available - or will we be made to finish all the ships we've got
now before we're allowed to have any new ones? ;D
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If we're voting, I'd vote for the latter, otherwise some poor ships (Trent, anyone?) will never get finished!
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Yes, it could be interesting at the end though, when however many
active transcribers we have, are all swarming over the last ship!
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That'd be good though, cos then we'd each only need to do a few pages of Trent each! ;D
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That'd be good though, cos then we'd each only need to do a few pages of Trent each! ;D
Is
it really so very bad? I only had a brief look after ElisabethB
mentioned the unusual layout, and it does look slightly weird, but I'm
sure after a few pages you'd get used to it. Or have I just not seen the
worst yet?
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I thought I'd give it a go, do a couple of pages a day or somesuch
just so it moves on, but I got half way down the first page and gave up.
I
found heights, and wind speed/direction, and occasionally sea
temperature, but I couldn't find any air temperatures or weather codes.
And there were so many dittos aaaaaall down the page. I think it would
take a fair bit of persistance to get used to it!
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Ah, OK, so it's not just a slightly different layout but the
information is actually presented in a completely different way?
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Seems it! As I say I only looked at one page, but I think the
information is spread over two pages as there was no date (that I could
find) on the page I looked at. So perhaps all the other information is
on the next page?
I'll stick with the Carnarvon for now. Yes, the
handwriting is illegible at best, but at least all the information is
where it should be, even if it's a struggle sometimes to work out what
that information is ;D
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http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ADM%2053-63493/ADM%2053-63493-052_0.jpg ???
The notes and the date this data belongs to are on page 92 of the log.
When
it's the only ship left, I'll be willing to jump in and give it try -
if others are helping so no one gets stuck with the whole log. ::)
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Once it's all we're left with, we'll all roll our sleeves up and get stuck in, I'm sure ;D
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OK, that IS odd. Is it the only ship which used that style of log book or were there others as well?
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We have a very good crowd here, there will be enough that will not
let any ship be abandoned that Trent will eventually be done. I
just don't want to be the one doing it alone.
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I think the Raven is similar, which is why it's down there with the Trent on 9%. There might be some others too.
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I've seen at least one other format - was it Canopus? - and
the format of the log just didn't seem compatible with the logs have
been scanned. the scans & widgets seemed designed to work for
the predominant log format. I'm not trying that again any time
soon.
just cruising on Arlanza, picking up odd dates here &
there, still hoping that the logs for September & October of 1915
will show up (the historical stuff) expecting to be kicked off any
day now . . .
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HMS Trent (Royal Mail Steam Packet): http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ADM%2053-63493/ADM%2053-63493-052_0.jpg
HMS Raven II (a seaplane carrier!) is also odd: http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ADM%2053-57309/ADM%2053-57309-065_0.jpg
ADDED: HMS Wonganella (Decoy ship / Q ship): http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ADM%2053-68927/ADM%2053-68927-038_0.jpg
ADDED: HMS Carrigan Head (Commissioned Escort Ship): http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ADM53-37185/ADM53-37185-0031_0.jpg
ADDED: HMS RFA Rapidol (Fleet Oiler): http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ADM%2053-57277/ADM%2053-57277-007_0.jpg
ADDED: HMS City of London: http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ADM53-37880/C2-ADM53-37880-0006_0.jpg
I
think all of these will have to be a team effort - if we know enough
people are working on them at the same time, we can moan and groan
appropriately without feeling alone.
The other very odd one I
remember was HMS Saxon (trawler), now completed. The form of the
log was fine. The Saxon was a fishing boat made into a naval
vessel complete with previous owner and crew. I helped finish that
ship up, and I had a feeling they did their job very well because they
genuinely understood and cared. They just had total scorn for the
fussy recording that makes these logs so valuable, and treated them as a
loosely written diary. ::)
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Good morning OW. ;D
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Good? It's grey and or and it's looking as though it's going to stay like that the entire day... Oh well. Might help me to get some work done.
By
the way, random question: If I start at the beginning of a log and
other people join the ship after I've already done a couple of months,
will the first pages they get to transcribe be the ones following on
from the last page I transcribed or will they be directed back to the
pages near the beginning which I've already done, so those pages get a
second reading? I always thought it was the former, but I noticed this
morning that the Patia (which I was certain I left at 52% last night)
has an extra crew member and is now at 53%, although the page I'm seeing
is still the one directly after the last one I transcribed last night.
So I take it it's really the latter and people are always automatically
taken to the earliest possible page?
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I believe people are sent to the earliest page that hasn't had 3
transcriptions done yet. I could be wrong though - this is just an
assumption from what I've seen on the site. Perhaps Arfon or someone can
confirm?
And as for the weather here, I've not opened the curtains yet, so I have no idea ;D
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I
believe people are sent to the earliest page that hasn't had 3
transcriptions done yet. I could be wrong though - this is just an
assumption from what I've seen on the site. Perhaps Arfon or someone can
confirm?
Right,
so basically if you join a ship which is less than 66% complete and you
don't take any long breaks while transcribing, you'll miss out on
the first couple of months of the ship's journey (unless you were among
the first three people to join) but there's a good chance that all the
pages you do will at least be in order?
It's still looking like 24-hour rain. And I'll have to go and buy some groceries this afternoon. Ugh.:(
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I
believe people are sent to the earliest page that hasn't had 3
transcriptions done yet. I could be wrong though - this is just an
assumption from what I've seen on the site. Perhaps Arfon or someone can
confirm?
Right,
so basically if you join a ship which is less than 66% complete and you
don't take any long breaks while transcribing, you'll miss out on
the first couple of months of the ship's journey (unless you were among
the first three people to join) but there's a good chance that all the
pages you do will at least be in order?
I think so. Presuming the pages were scanned in order.
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I'm not sure it works like that! I joined Rinaldo when it was a
lot less than 66% complete, haven't taken any long breaks, but once I
got to the end of the logs in May 1919 was sent back to January 1916
which I think is the very beginning. After quite a long run of
fairly continuous logs I've reached the point of 'filling in the gaps'
and tend to be doing a week or so and then jumping anything up to a
month or two - frustrating if you want to follow a story, but does
definitely give a sense of progress.
I've stopped trying to work out why it's happening like this as it only confuses me - I'm just doing it ... :)
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Yeah, I don't know whether anybody understands why we always end up
filling in gaps once we reach the end of the logs - logically there
shouldn't be any gaps to fill. It's a puzzle!
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Yeah,
I don't know whether anybody understands why we always end up filling
in gaps once we reach the end of the logs - logically there shouldn't be
any gaps to fill. It's a puzzle!
Well, however it works exactly, the gaps must be caused by all the people who join, transcribe a page or two and then leave.
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I've asked various questions on this theme over the past few months
and putting all the answers together I have concluded that:
- The
way it is supposed to work is that a new crew member will get the
earliest page that has not yet been transcribed by three people.
From this it would follow that if you had done more logs than anyone
else you wouldn't get any gaps in your pages because you would be ahead
of everyone and would be the first transcriber once you'd reached that
position.
In practice, most of the time it has not been working
like that. If you've done, say, 1 June 1915 and a new crew member
joins, they would get 2 June 1915 and you would keep leapfrogging each
other. Then when you get to the end of the logs you go back to the
beginning and get the pages you missed first time (provided three
transcriptions haven't been completed). On that basis everyone
would go through the logs together three times and a ship that showed
33% of the logs completed would have had one complete pass by however
many people with two more complete passes to go. (There have been
vague promises that this will be corrected.)
However,
based on the figures for the Mantua's logs as I've gone through them, I
think it must have been working properly at the very beginning of the
project because the log was well over 33% before I time-travelled back
to the beginning.
Also I am wondering if the problem has been
fixed very recently, because I noticed the other day that a fellow crew
member's totals had increased, but I didn't miss any pages.
Confused? I know I am!
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HMS Raven II (a seaplane carrier!) is also odd: http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ADM%2053-57309/ADM%2053-57309-065_0.jpg
ADDED: HMS Wonganella (Decoy ship / Q ship): http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ADM%2053-68927/ADM%2053-68927-038_0.jpg
ADDED: HMS Carrigan Head (Commissioned Escort Ship): http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ADM53-37185/ADM53-37185-0031_0.jpg
ADDED: HMS RFA Rapidol (Fleet Oiler): http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ADM%2053-57277/ADM%2053-57277-007_0.jpg
I
think all of these will have to be a team effort - if we know enough
people are working on them at the same time, we can moan and groan
appropriately without feeling alone.
Well,
I like a challenge! (But maybe not right now ...) Where there are
two pages for a single day, presumably you need to save an image of the
first page, update, then fill all the actual information across the two
pages onto the second page?
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HMS Raven II (a seaplane carrier!) is also odd: http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ADM%2053-57309/ADM%2053-57309-065_0.jpg
ADDED: HMS Wonganella (Decoy ship / Q ship): http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ADM%2053-68927/ADM%2053-68927-038_0.jpg
ADDED: HMS Carrigan Head (Commissioned Escort Ship): http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ADM53-37185/ADM53-37185-0031_0.jpg
ADDED: HMS RFA Rapidol (Fleet Oiler): http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ADM%2053-57277/ADM%2053-57277-007_0.jpg
I
think all of these will have to be a team effort - if we know enough
people are working on them at the same time, we can moan and groan
appropriately without feeling alone.
Well,
I like a challenge! (But maybe not right now ...) Where there are
two pages for a single day, presumably you need to save an image of the
first page, update, then fill all the actual information across the two
pages onto the second page?
That sounds like a good solution, don't know if the sciency types approve, but it seems sensible to me.
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If they're really this different, wouldn't it make more sense to
leave them until the very end of the project and then ask the techy
people to change the settings for the weather box so it's better suited
to that peculiar format?
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I don't think that's likely - none of our suggested changes to the
input box which would make our lives easier have been implemented yet
(such as adding 'Lt airs' to the wind direction), so I doubt they'd
change the whole thing just for a couple of ships.
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Sorry for the delay, but I just noticed Cyzaki has dissed my
ship. Poor old Raven. I shall demand satisfaction next shore
leave. Cyzaki, choose your seconds!
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Hi muchdistressed,
great to see you again :D
oh and please keep the violence to a minimum ! ;) ;D
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It's all fun and games until someone loses an eye.
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There is the most wonderful striated sunset outside my attic
window.... oh! it's just changed register - absolutely
beautiful.
But to business: I've been doing Raven II
since I started. My method, right or wrong, is to transcribe what
the log page shows. So, even numbered pages do not show the year -
I don't put the year in although I know the next page will
show the year to be 1915. The location isn't shown on even
numbered pages either - so I don't put it in.
I figure: if the
techies don't like what I'm doing, they'll let me know. And, if
why I'm doing what I'm doing annoys the techies, they'll figure out a
way to adapt to it.
1st rule of retirement: Make it someone else's problem.
Sunset's gone.
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Hi muchdistressed. It sounds to me like you are doing exactly the right thing with the logs.
It's a long time since we had a sunny day here. What a pleasant change. ;D
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I'm having a go at Trent, trying to move the poor soul on a bit.
It's an interesting challenge, so I hope I'm doing the right thing! I'm
doing my level best to make the information given fit into our format,
so fingers crossed I'm getting it right :)
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You're one of the best. You'll do fine.
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You're one of the best. You'll do fine.
Aaaw, bless you! :-*
If
anyone else wants to join me, they're welcome - I figure that if we
each do a little bit every now and again, it won't be such a big tedious
job.
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We too had a glorious red sky tonight, you arent near Somerset are you Muchdistressed?
K
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Had a lovely warm(ish) sunny day up here in the north but I gather
normal weather service will be resumed later tonight with rain, cooler
air and what is described as 'dreach' (hope I've got the spelling right)
weather.
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Hello, Tegwen
How near is near? Google maps are NOT
reliable! I'm in Central London, and brilliant sunsets are often a
spin-off of pollution ... how's that for looking on the bright side?
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Hi Muchdistressed.
I guess that wonderful sky must have been over much of the South of England then. Tonight was v dull here.
K
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Had
a lovely warm(ish) sunny day up here in the north but I gather normal
weather service will be resumed later tonight with rain, cooler air and
what is described as 'dreach' (hope I've got the spelling right)
weather.
Normally
'dreich' I think - but just as grim however it's spelt. Today's
weather has been rather dramatic - driving back from Dorset to
Oxfordshire through a dramatic hail storm, so loud I could hardly hear
the radio in the car. Definitely not dreich!
Helen J
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I think you mean 'dreck' - the German-English dictionary (http://eudict.com/) says:
"Dreck = dirt, dreck, drek, muckiness, scruffiness, smut, raunchiness"
The
second definition it gave for (der) Dreck was too low to meet this
forum's language standards. Both sound like they describe how you
feel about your weather. ;D
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I thought it was a Scottish word? I'd have to go with Helen's
spelling. It's a lovely word - sounds wonderful when spoken by a
Scot, or at least by someone who can pronounce the Scots "ch" sound!
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Yes it's the Scottish one I reckon - certainly that's what I was
referring to. And I can do the 'ch' too! If we ever get
sound on the forum I could demonstrate ....
Helen J
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Obviously, neither of you have heard the very expressive gutteral
sounds of the German 'r' and 'ch'! It aint a pretty language at
all, but it does wonderfully at expressing frustration! I'd go
with either Scottish or German, they are both superior to English from
either side of the pond on this. ;D
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Yes I did a year or so of German so I know it comes in both
languages - but in the 'north' as studentforever says s/he is I reckon
it's the Scottish one meant. It was definitely helpful in
pronouncing German to have the 'ch' already - but not enough to keep me
learning it!
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Anyone noticing a problem with the server? It seems to be
really sluggish in changing the "Event" dialogue box, and sometimes
won't even switch at all.
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I've been using the beta version with the repairs, and that kind of
sticking is extremely rare over there. The "I'm finished with this
page" button is slower but not impossibly stubborn. If you are
experiencing this sticking with the new site, we need to post your
problem on the "Application server performance problem
(http://forum.oldweather.org/index.php?topic=1261.msg13077#msg13077)"
thread for Arfon's notice. (It is a beta test version! ;) )
If you are not using the beta test site, try it at wwwdev.oldweather.org (http://wwwdev.oldweather.org).
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Here's a story relevant to all our ships, I heard it on the early morning news and looked it up.
Frank Buckles, last US WWI vet, dies in W.Va. at age 110; lied about age to get in uniform (http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory?id=13016383)
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Obviously,
neither of you have heard the very expressive gutteral sounds of the
German 'r' and 'ch'! It aint a pretty language at all, but it does
wonderfully at expressing frustration! I'd go with either
Scottish or German, they are both superior to English from either side
of the pond on this. ;D
Call
me pedantic (no, go on, it's OK :D ) but I learned German in the
past as well, and I don't think the "ch" sound is quite the same - it's a
much softer sound in Scottish Gaelic, to my ears anyway. I can
only say it's lucky not many Welsh words have come over to the English
language! ;D
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Call me pedantic (no, go on, it's OK :D ) but I learned German in the past as well, and I don't think the "ch" sound is quite the same - it's a much softer sound in Scottish Gaelic, to my ears anyway. I can only say it's lucky not many Welsh words have come over to the English language! ;D
There
are lots of different ch sounds in German, though (and it varies by
region as well). I'm pretty sure at least some of them will be
similar.;)
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Not to mention Austrian and Swiss pronunciation ...
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Not to mention Austrian and Swiss pronunciation ...
Hmm,
I'm not sure if Austrian actually has any special ch-sounds... It
differs from German mainly in terms of intonation and vocabulary, but
the sounds are essentially the same. In Swiss German, though, you get an
extra 'kch' sound, but I'm relatively certain that that isn't used in
Scottish Gaelic. ;D
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Obviously,
neither of you have heard the very expressive gutteral sounds of the
German 'r' and 'ch'! It aint a pretty language at all, but it does
wonderfully at expressing frustration! I'd go with either
Scottish or German, they are both superior to English from either side
of the pond on this. ;D
Call
me pedantic (no, go on, it's OK :D ) but I learned German in the
past as well, and I don't think the "ch" sound is quite the same - it's a
much softer sound in Scottish Gaelic, to my ears anyway. I can
only say it's lucky not many Welsh words have come over to the English
language! ;D
Joining in pedant's corner - it's a Scots word
rather than a Gaelic one, and from the various definitions I looked up
(oh the wonderful timewasting possibilities of the forum!) it apparently
comes from a middle English word. So quite where that leaves us I
don't know - except probably even more confused ....
Helen J
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Well, according to the OED it's derived from a word meaning
something along the lines of dreary, wearisome, tiresome or enduring. So
if there is any etymological relationship with a German word, my guess
is that it would have to be 'dr?ge', actually.
Do I win the pedantry contest? :P
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Here's an entry from HMS Southampton for 15th October 1920 that ElisabethB will like:
Edit: The next day they fired two salutes of 21 guns in honour of the King of Belgium!
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Well,
according to the OED it's derived from a word meaning something along
the lines of dreary, wearisome, tiresome or enduring. So if there is any
etymological relationship with a German word, my guess is that it would
have to be 'dr?ge', actually.
Do I win the pedantry contest? :P
Yes, I think you probably do! Just reminded me about the old joke:
Who was the leader of the Pedants Revolt?
Which Tyler! ;D
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that one hurt! ;D
yours -
Kathy W.
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Oooooh. :P ;D
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Joining
in pedant's corner - it's a Scots word rather than a Gaelic one, and
from the various definitions I looked up (oh the wonderful timewasting
possibilities of the forum!) it apparently comes from a middle English
word. So quite where that leaves us I don't know - except probably
even more confused ....
Helen J
I need to say, the Saxon - which is the source of half of middle English - IS a form of German. ;D
Not related to Gaelic, so we still are looking at 2 languages who invented the same wonderful sounding word. ;)
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Yes, I'd accept that OK - and it's another dreich day here in Oxfordshire! :D
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This morning I had the occasion to assist to a gun salute. Quite
noisy I must say. It was on the occasion of the revolution of 1848 in
Neuchatel where the republic and canton (swiss confederate state) was
founded. The same occasion was used to start the millennium festivities
as the city of Neuchatel was first mentioned in a scripture one thousand
years ago.
If some of you are close to Neuchatel I will be pleased to show you around and give you a little tour of the city.
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Hello OW and welcome home Space Shuttle Discovery. ;D
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Hi H Kohler
By assist do you mean actually firing the guns yourself? If so modern guns or Cannon? I always fancied firing a cannon.
K
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Morning shipmates, very breezy here!
Is it time to start thinking about an Old Weather get together in Greenwich in April/May?
We need to find a weekend which suits most people.
Maybe one of the mods could start a topic with a poll?
I assume most people would be interested in visiting the Maritime Museum in Greenwich.
Maritime Museum (http://www.nmm.ac.uk/)
There is also the Queen's House which has a lot of marine art.
Queen's House (http://www.nmm.ac.uk/places/queens-house/)
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Hi Tegwen
I didn't fire the guns myself but I was about 20 meters from them. Those where old field guns from WW1 period I guess.
H.
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Morning shipmates, very breezy here!
Is it time to start thinking about an Old Weather get together in Greenwich in April/May?
We need to find a weekend which suits most people.
Maybe one of the mods could start a topic with a poll?
I assume most people would be interested in visiting the Maritime Museum in Greenwich.
Maritime Museum (http://www.nmm.ac.uk/)
I
would love the chance to meet some of my fellow transcribers on Old
Weather. But could I put in a plea for somewhere fairly central
and easily accessible by Tube? It would make it a lot easier for
those of us who would be trying to get there from outside London.
There is also the Queen's House which has a lot of marine art.
Queen's House (http://www.nmm.ac.uk/places/queens-house/)
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I just wanted to pause and give a thought to those in Japan :(
, Indonesia, and the Pacific Rim - Hawaii, and the West Coast (US) -
Deej - I hope you aren't badly affected by what is happening - also
Jennfur, and any other OWers in those regions.
yours -
Kathy W.
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Hi. All safe here. They're reporting 3.3 foot
"tsunami" waves here. I don't understand such things enough to
know if that can be a big problem. Sounds small. The Alaskan
quake back in the 60s sent a tsunami that swept people away here.
Anyway, we've accounted for both daughters and all other relatives
living on the water, so we're good. Thanks for thinking of
us. :)
The video from Japan is just horrifying.
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Just passing by was in the AREA rude not to pop in Not sure how long before i Return again!
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Good morning OW. See you next time Bp. ;)
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I have a feeling that many of our transcribers will also be
crossword solvers. I am sure that they will have little difficulty with
this Auracaria clue. "Cape or pew, rather peerless (5)"
It should
present little difficulty to all those who have passed out into the
Atlantic around the North coast of Scotland anyway!
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I like that one dorbel. ;D
Araucaria is my favourite.
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Well, for the non-British among us, could you please explain that
one - is there a pew style called auracaria? (As it happens I am an
Episcopalian, which is a C of E of another color) or is it what
the House of Commons sits on (being rather peerless ;D) or is it
something that has no rivals (peerless you know), or maybe, it is
referring to a trial by judge rather than a trial by jury (there being
no peers available) -
yours -
Kathy W.
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Sorry Kathy. ;D Araucaria is a cryptic crossword setter.
The solution is Wrath.
The definition is Cape. Wrath can be found in the letters 'pew, rather' minus the letters of 'peer' .
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Honestly!
yours -
Kathy W.
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We've reached 50% now.:)
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Mornin', shipmates.
Sideways rain, as usual, here in semi-Seattle. I hope the OW Coffee Maker is in good repair.
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"The Guardian" a British Newspaper publishes Crosswords each day except Sunday.
The
cryptic crossword is set by compilers who use a pseudonym.
Araucaria is one such who has recently reached his 90th birthday.
Puzzles can be found at:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/crosswords
Hint there is a cheat mechanism and it does rely on proper spelling
LGB
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ok - I looked at some of these puzzles, and let me tell you, they
are definitely cultural specific - for example one of the clues was a
rib with its meat and the answer was cutlet :o ...now to me,
a rib with its meat is a chop and a thinly sliced piece of meat with no
bone is a cutlet ;D - I would definitely have to spend some time
in Merrye Olde England before I could do these puzzles :D
yours -
Kathy W.
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Dont worry Kathy, I have lived here all my life and am useless at these crosswords.
K
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Good morning OW. ;D
I like jigsaw puzzles too.
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Well,when I looked up the BEEB weather forecast for today it said
heavy rain. I looked up from my computer and what did I see -
SNOW. Weather forecasting is not a precise science.
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Well,when I looked up the BEEB weather forecast
for today it said heavy rain. I looked up from my computer and what did
I see - SNOW. Weather forecasting is not a precise science.
That
seems to be woefully inaccurate most of the time. Sometimes I wonder
whether they're not mischievously showing you the wrong weather
stations, i.e. if you search for the forecast for Reading, they show you
the one for Edinburgh and tell you it's Reading. After all,
it's not as though you've got much of a chance of verifying the
information you get unless you've got your own weather station set up in
your back garden - in which case, why would you need the BBC's anyway?
:(
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me too! I love puzzles of all kinds - jigsaw, crossword,
logic, detective fiction (I have every Agatha Christie book/story
published) etc. I think that is one of the reasons I enjoy Old
Weather so much - I love the puzzle of bad handwriting too ;D
yours -
Kathy W.
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Believe me, the writing on Old Weather is not as bad as some of the
writing I've struggled with doing family history. Even the census can be
bad and that is knowing the district so having a mental cross-check on
places and a limited set of options for occupations. My brother and I
were quite convinced we had 2 'salt softers' in the family and couldn't
find any info, even at the salt museum. However, the census entry for a
third family member revealed that they were 'salt lofters'. These were
labourers who put the drained 'bricks' of salt from the pans up into the
drying loft above the pans where they could start to dry out. I dread
to think of what it did to their skin handling the salt in that state.
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Well,when I looked up the BEEB weather forecast
for today it said heavy rain. I looked up from my computer and what did
I see - SNOW. Weather forecasting is not a precise science.
That
seems to be woefully inaccurate most of the time. Sometimes I wonder
whether they're not mischievously showing you the wrong weather
stations, i.e. if you search for the forecast for Reading, they show you
the one for Edinburgh and tell you it's Reading. After all,
it's not as though you've got much of a chance of verifying the
information you get unless you've got your own weather station set up in
your back garden - in which case, why would you need the BBC's anyway?
:(
I
think the BBC get their weather forecast direct from the Met Office,
don't they? Thing is, I live in Exeter and they can get it
dramatically wrong for here - so where's the Met Office?
Exeter! ;D Sometimes you feel like you just want to ring them up
and suggest they take a look out of the window!
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I have volunteered to write something about Old Weather for our staff newsletter at work - why, oh why, did I do that?
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Include forum links for juicy stories. :) Here are a few:
Sloop HMS Torch putting down a native upr (http://Topic: Re: Wikipedia issues...)ising - or trying to, with poor results.
Sloop HMS Torch again, fighting a storm (http://forum.oldweather.org/index.php?topic=1206.msg13468#msg13468) that turned into a full gale and worse.
Destroyer HMS Torch rescued 150 White Russian refugees (http://forum.oldweather.org/index.php?topic=885.msg11266#msg11266).
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I have volunteered to write something about Old Weather for our staff newsletter at work - why, oh why, did I do that?
Because you love it, really.;) How many words does it need to be?
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They haven't given me a number of words - now it's electronic they can make each issue as large or as small as they want.
Thanks for the links, Janet!
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Easy then!
"Old Weather is dead good. Go visit it."
And I don't even mind if you take the credit :D
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thursdaynext, this is a CYA post.
I've recently been reminded
that the pictures or scans of the logs are copyrighted, so don't include
any JPEG links - but the information is all ours to use. And my
posts and writing is also yours to copy or embelish or edit as you wish -
I've no problem with that. I'm just being careful at the moment.
:)
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No problem, Janet.
I wouldn't put in an image of an actual
page, just quote/paraphrase one or two interesting entries. (Apart
from the copyright issue, I wouldn't want to put off anybody who might
be interested enough to think about joining us! ;D )
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Good morning OW. :D
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I'll say it again. Good morning OW and 16 guests. ;D
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And a very good morning to you Caro
LGB
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I'll say it again. Good morning OW and 16 guests. ;D
Hi Caro,
What's
the difference between a user and a guest? Is a guest someone who
does not transcribe, or a person who is reading finished logs?
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A guest is someone who is reading the forum but hasn't logged in.
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I wasn't aware that you could do that. Thanks for clarifying. :)
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Good day all - hope everyone is well -
yours -
Kathy W.
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Hello everybody. Nice to see you all in here. ;)
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Morning shipmates :)
Planning on visiting Greenwich
this morning to see the Navy destroyer parked there and then on to the
Greenwich Union for lunch. Will try and take a picture of the destroyer
and post it.
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Good morning OW and 8 guests. ;)
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The sun is coming out, so are the daffodils and the leaves are beginning to show green. What a lovely time of year!
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well, except for the fact it is 30!!! degrees here in Maryland, with
SNOW!!! in the forecast - my daffodils are going to DIE!!!
:'(
hope everyone is doing well -
yours -
Kathy W.
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I'm hoping the snow won't stick. The ground should be warmer than it was in January...
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Fingers crossed for weather here - at the moment it's double figure
celsius but who knows what next week will bring. I've seen it snow into
May but usually our bulbs and shrubs survive even if the bedding plants
go to the great compost heap.
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It's been a stunning day here; now it's got dark, and I'm listening
to the owls who are very vocal and sound close. Very
atmospheric! :)
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Lucky you, we rarely hear owls and they are such beautiful birds
(unless you are a vole) though our blackbirds can be quite vocal and
some years we are lucky and get a lovelorn thrush.
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well,
except for the fact it is 30!!! degrees here in Maryland, with SNOW!!!
in the forecast - my daffodils are going to DIE!!! :'(
...
Kathy W.
Same
in Chicago - except our snow fell Wednesday night. Ground is too
warm for any of it to stick, but this was the 3rd day in a row with a
high below freezing. The plants here are safe - there are no green
leaves or daffodilil shoots up at all yet, it has been a very long hard
winter. But daffodils always come up early enough, that they must
survive a return of winter frequently. Hopefully yours will look
just a little ragged.
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I have seen some very fat and sleek robins in the past few days, and
the chipmunks are also in fine form. Tomorrow we're supposed to
have 1-3 inches of snow. So crazy.
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Good morning OW.
Sunny, about 8 C where I am, and an hour later than I thought it was. ;)
(British Summer Time starts today.)
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Indeed, and because of a combination of British Summer Time and
Australian time zones, I had to wake up at what felt like 5am this
morning >:(
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Didn't realize that England & Australia also use some sort of
"daylight saving time". I always feel disgruntled and out of sorts
for a few days after the spring change.
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US did that change last week - it wasn't any easier. And on
this site, I had to remember to add only 5 hours instead of the usual 6
hours difference. (Grump. Grump.) :(
I keep wanting the
autumn change, when we get to sleep an hour longer. But then, we
wouldn't have that if we hadn't endured the spring-ahead now. ::)
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Didn't
realize that England & Australia also use some sort of "daylight
saving time". I always feel disgruntled and out of sorts for a few
days after the spring change.
Dunno whether Australia does or not.
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Australia does have daylight saving.
Good morning cyzaki, good morning all.
Census filled in online by 7.30 am. Yay. :D
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I just feel like an hour has been stolen from me.:( Also, it's
looking very oc this morning. Still, I suppose it could be worse - it
could be ocd...
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Yahoo - no snow! ;D BUT there is a possibility for snow later this week! :o >:( -
it is sunny out - why can't it be warm (it was 28 degrees F. when my husband left this morning at 8:00am)
yours -
Kathy W
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~~BEGIN WEATHER WHINE~~
They are saying snow across all of
central-northern US between the mountains this week, right around when
we leave March's lion and enter April - but just a smattering in Chicago
of half in inch to an inch, I hope. And it was 21F here this
morning, and up to all of 33F right now (early afternoon).
This 2
week long cold snap, to my mind, is not spring's usual up-and-down
winter-summer see-saw. It is a full return of winter. And I
am very tired of winter already this year, it has already made the
record-books without adding extra length. (I am glad the leaves are not here to suffer frostbite.) I do not like going into April without a single green leaflet in sight. I want a real spring! Now!
~~END WEATHER WHINE~~
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Janet, I wish I could parcel up some of the spring weather we're
having here and send it to you! It's really hard when it just
keeps going on and on - very bad for the spirits. I hope this will
be its last gasp .... :)
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Figure out how to trade mine for yours, and I'll take it! ;) ;D
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I was thinking of sharing rather than trading - we've had plenty of winter here too this time round! :D
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Sharing is good. We can discard all the winter to make room. ;D
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Free to good home - one much loved armed merchant cruiser.
I
have come to the end of my voyage on the Mantua - we have been together
for the best part of six months, and I am going to miss her :(
She's
only 49% complete so there is at least one virtually complete pass
through the logs for another transcriber. I promise you get used
to the 1915/16 logkeeper's writing - and they are clearly written in
1917/18!
According to the Naval History website there are more logs available than we have had so far on OW, so I shall be hoping that these might come up in the second phase of the project.
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Free to good home - one much loved armed merchant cruiser.
I have come to the end of my voyage on the Mantua - we have been together for the best part of six months, and I am going to miss her :(
She's
only 49% complete so there is at least one virtually complete pass
through the logs for another transcriber. I promise you get used
to the 1915/16 logkeeper's writing - and they are clearly written in
1917/18!
Fancy giving the Patia a try? You'll even get to meet the Mantua a couple of times.;)
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Much as I've enjoyed the Atlantic patrol - and I don't want to waste
all the background knowledge I've built up - I think I'm going to go
for a change of scene, at least for a little while. I have a
feeling there might be a lot of Atlantic Patrol ships left as we get
towards the end of the project (along with the Trent etc) because they
are mainly closely written logs with a lot of weather reports each day
and they are quite labour intensive, so I'm expecting the chance to get
back again sometime!
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I can recommend any of the Cadmus class sloops, Espiegle, Clio or
Odin. All are active in the middle east where it is warm and fairly
interesting. They all seem to see more action than most. Handwriting is
generally good without being flowery.
The only downside is
regular dull refits in Bombay or Columbo and some difficult to read
names of places, but they come with practice and I would be happy to
help.
K
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Good morning OW.
Google has a great animation today. Happy 200th birthday, Robert Bunsen. :D
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Much
as I've enjoyed the Atlantic patrol - and I don't want to waste all the
background knowledge I've built up - I think I'm going to go for a
change of scene, at least for a little while. I have a feeling
there might be a lot of Atlantic Patrol ships left as we get towards the
end of the project (along with the Trent etc) because they are mainly
closely written logs with a lot of weather reports each day and they are
quite labour intensive, so I'm expecting the chance to get back again
sometime!
Pff,
if you were doing the Mantua, you've done hardly any Atlantic patrol.
Not by Patia standards, anyway. :P I'm now in November in 1917, the
final month of Atlantic patrol and nearing the crucial point at which
I'll find out whether the logs will continue in December 1917 (when the
Patia changed to convoy duty and finally got to go somewhere remotely interesting), or whether I'll be taken all the way back to December 1914, the very first month of Atlantic patrol, which I missed the first time around.
I
really want it to be the former, but I'm pretty sure it'll be the
latter. So unfair.:( The Patia's profile page says 'Dakar, Halifax',
which isn't technically wrong, because the ship did go there during the
last couple of months - after spending three years
on Atlantic patrol - and the Google maps default thingie always
displays the route to Dakar by default (which is a little annoying when
all you ever do is potter around in the Atlantic), so I've always been
telling myself that I'd get to transcribe those months eventually. But
going by the numbers it's extremely unlikely now.:(
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Much
as I've enjoyed the Atlantic patrol - and I don't want to waste all the
background knowledge I've built up - I think I'm going to go for a
change of scene, at least for a little while. I have a feeling
there might be a lot of Atlantic Patrol ships left as we get towards the
end of the project (along with the Trent etc) because they are mainly
closely written logs with a lot of weather reports each day and they are
quite labour intensive, so I'm expecting the chance to get back again
sometime!
Can
I tempt you onto Rinaldo? - another sloop, around Africa, so wonderful
weather. The writing looks faint on first viewing, but the
magnification makes it OK and the actual handwriting is quite readable
with a little practice, and tends to stay the same for good long
stretches of time. Not an exciting life, but she doesn't spend
months and months in dock (often :D) and my knowledge of the
geography of the east coast of Africa increased dramatically. And
she names the people who are coming and going which in my opinion makes
it more interesting, so instead of getting '2 ratings discharged to
hospital' you get names and ranks.
I finished as Captain a few weeks
ago now and she's still at about 48% so I suspect no one is transcribing
on her any more and I feel terribly responsible! :-[ I
have notes of places, and ships met, and am happy to help if you get
stuck.
Helen J
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I think we should start a Lonely Ships thread where people who have
finished transcribing can peddle 'their' ships to others while looking
for a new one.;)
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Brilliant idea! Matchmaking for Lonely Ships and transcribers at a loose end. :D
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Unless wanting to start a lonely ships thread could be seen as a sign of addiction to OW!!!
K
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Unless wanting to start a lonely ships thread could be seen as a sign of addiction to OW!!!
K
Oh, come on. I think we all know that we're long past the stage of wondering whether we're addicted to OW.;)
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Brilliant idea! Matchmaking for Lonely Ships and transcribers at a loose end. :D
"Lonely Ships" has a nice ring to it. Better than "Orphans".
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Pff,
if you were doing the Mantua, you've done hardly any Atlantic patrol.
Not by Patia standards, anyway. :P I'm now in November in 1917, the
final month of Atlantic patrol and nearing the crucial point at which
I'll find out whether the logs will continue in December 1917 (when the
Patia changed to convoy duty and finally got to go somewhere remotely interesting), or whether I'll be taken all the way back to December 1914, the very first month of Atlantic patrol, which I missed the first time around.
I
really want it to be the former, but I'm pretty sure it'll be the
latter. So unfair.:( The Patia's profile page says 'Dakar, Halifax',
which isn't technically wrong, because the ship did go there during the
last couple of months - after spending three years
on Atlantic patrol - and the Google maps default thingie always
displays the route to Dakar by default (which is a little annoying when
all you ever do is potter around in the Atlantic), so I've always been
telling myself that I'd get to transcribe those months eventually. But
going by the numbers it's extremely unlikely now.:(
Now be fair! Obviously 19 months is less than three years, but it's not exactly "hardly any"! :D
I
hope you do get the convoy duty - it wasn't hugely exciting on the
Mantua, but it was a change. I am disappointed not to have got the
final months of her logs as well - I can see from the casualty lists
that she was hit very hard by the Spanish Flu, or something else,
because there are sadly lots of deaths from illness in August
1918. I'm sure they've said that when we get the additional logs
in the second phase that will in some cases include further logs from
the same ships - so maybe we'll get them then.
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It's December 1917!! ;D So with a bit of luck I might get to go on
convoy duty - although at the moment we're still at Busta Voe doing the
usual coaling etc.
The Patia cunningly avoided all problems relating to Spanish Flu by getting sunk in June 1918.
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Good morning LGB, good morning OW. ;D
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And a very good morning to you Caro and to all our readers
Weather here ***, but feel much refreshed after some more sleep
Have a truly lovely day everyone
LGB
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Lt airs and ocd.:(
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Lt airs and ocd.:(
Do
you ocd as in Beaufort codes (cloudy, overcast & drizzle), or ocd
as in obsessive-compulsive disorder which some of us OW-ites seem to
have, particularly when it comes to "our" ships? ;D ;D
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Nice one, I think many of us contributors suffer from both permanent
and spasmodic ocd. We had the spasmodic version here today as well.
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Nice
one, I think many of us contributors suffer from both permanent and
spasmodic ocd. We had the spasmodic version here today as well.
Spasmodic ocd? I'm not familiar with that.
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Do
you ocd as in Beaufort codes (cloudy, overcast & drizzle), or ocd
as in obsessive-compulsive disorder which some of us OW-ites seem to
have, particularly when it comes to "our" ships? ;D ;D
The
former, of course; there's nothing remotely ocd about me - but don't
you dare imply that the Patia ISN'T incredibly special! :P
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Argh! >:( I had a busy day today and didn't get around to doing any transcribing, and now I find that virtually the entire
trip to Dakar seems to have been stolen by someone in the meantime. I
know I shouldn't be getting so upset about something as silly as this,
but it really is a monstrous injustice. I've transcribed three years'
worth of Northern Patrol logs and was looking forward to this convoy
trip, and now somebody else who has done no work on the Patia at all
over the past two months just swoops in and nicks it. This is SO unfair!
:(
Edit: There's something weird going on there. Yesterday I
finished transcribing on 5 December 1917, when the Patia was just about
to set off on convoy duty. I saw the page of 6 December but didn't
transcribe it. When I started transcribing again just now, I was given
29 December 1917 (at which point the Patia was already off the west
coast of Africa, close to her destination). And now I've been sent
straight to 1 April 1918? ???
Edit2: 6 December 1917 now. I have no idea what's going on here...
Edit3: And now everything appears to be back to normal. Weird.
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Because there are a great many transcribers trying out a few pages
and then jumping ship, the list of transcribed pages is very
ragged. And us long-term crew get jumped around because of it.
It
doesn't get really irritating unless your on a ship that travels a lot,
and makes a habit of not filling in its location boxes.
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Because
there are a great many transcribers trying out a few pages and then
jumping ship, the list of transcribed pages is very ragged. And us
long-term crew get jumped around because of it.
It doesn't get
really irritating unless your on a ship that travels a lot, and makes a
habit of not filling in its location boxes.
But I still understand it. I saw
the 6 December 1917 page last night. Just what could have happened for
me to jump forward to 29 December 1917, further forward still to 1 April
1918 and then BACK to 6 December? That doesn't make any sense even if
you take the hit-and-run transcribers into account. Perhaps the scans
got jumbled up somehow? Maybe I should check the links for the pages to
see whether they've got consecutive numbers...
Edit:
5 December 1917: http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ADM_53-54577/ADM%2053-54577-005_1.jpg
29 December 1917: http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ADM_53-54577/ADM%2053-54577-017_1.jpg
1 April 1918: http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ADM_53-54581/ADM%2053-54581-003_1.jpg
6 December 1917: http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ADM_53-54577/ADM%2053-54577-006_0.jpg
No, that can't be it either.
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It made perfect sense to me - just this last hour, I went from
September 1st 1918 in Edinburgh, to July 1919 in Venice, to August 1919
in Croatia, to October 1919 in Constantinople, to September 2nd 1918 in
Edinburgh - all in 10 pages.
It makes sense because I'm in the
mopping up stages, going back to all the missed pages, and I expect no
logic at all! The computer is just going through my voyage and
plugging in the missing scans as it finds them.
Sorry I can't be more methodical in explaining it all - think of it as a lottery in action. ;)
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mutabilitie,
TV's been running a promo for Dr Who? Doubtless
an Easter Special, so it's probably all to do with leakage in the
space/time continuum. It is covered by the Grand Unified Theory.
Unfortunately, time doesn't permit me to explain in detail. ;)
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mutabilitie,
TV's
been running a promo for Dr Who? Doubtless an Easter Special, so it's
probably all to do with leakage in the space/time continuum. It is
covered by the Grand Unified Theory.
Unfortunately, time doesn't permit me to explain in detail. ;)
Pff,
couldn't it have leaked in slightly more helpful ways? For example by
giving me an extra week of Easter holidays to maintain my sanity, as
well as an extra week for finishing off my chapter to bring me one step
closer to becoming a doctor myself? That I wouldn't have minded...
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It
made perfect sense to me - just this last hour, I went from September
1st 1918 in Edinburgh, to July 1919 in Venice, to August 1919 in
Croatia, to October 1919 in Constantinople, to September 2nd 1918 in
Edinburgh - all in 10 pages.
I makes sense because I'm in the
mopping up stages, going back to all the missed pages, and I expect no
logic at all! The computer is just going through my voyage and
plugging in the missing scans as it finds them.
Sorry I can't be more methodical in explaining it all - think of it as a lottery in action. ;)
Right, so you don't necessarily get taken to the earliest available scan, then? But then why are the pages I'm getting now all back in sequence again? ???
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For example by giving me an extra week of Easter holidays to
maintain my sanity, as well as an extra week for finishing off my
chapter to bring me one step closer to becoming a doctor myself? That I
wouldn't have minded...
Picky, picky.
Reminds me of a joke about a four storey supermarket where women could shop for husbands ... (but I've learned my lesson.)
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Good morning OW. Hope your weather is Calm, b.
12oC and sunny at 8.00 hours where I am. ;D
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Yup - here it's maybe Lt Airs, 1, b, 29.83/59 - a lovely day!
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Good morning Caro and OW. Coffee is under way.
Weather Calm, f3, temperature 10?C, expected for today: 25?C
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Good morning Caro, H Kohler and Cyzaki + four anonymous guests
Weather here gloomy with persistent rain
Enjoy your coffees
LGB
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Good morning Caro, H Kohler and Cyzaki + four anonymous guests
Weather here gloomy with persistent rain
Enjoy your coffees
LGB
Coffee's already been had, now I've got to traipse into London for a course.
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25o? See you later LGB and Cyzaki. I'm off to Switzerland for the day (I wish). ;)
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You'll be welcome Caro.
The weather for tomorrow will be
about the same as today, sunny and warm after dissipation of the morning
fog, but on monday a drop of 10?C is expected.
A typical April weather.
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I think the weather here would be bcp or April showers in
landlubbers speak. Enjoy courses, coffee and OW. I need to proceed to
the supermarket for provisions and stores so hope to time it for the b
and avoid the p.
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Saw an interesting op-ed piece by Ben Schott in the NY Times this
morning: "Pluviocabulary": contains a list of various
"pluvial terms to be found in the inestimable "Oxford English
Dictionary.""
Some favorites: "After drops - rain that falls even after a cloud has passed."
"Clashy - heavy dashes of rain:
"Impearl: rain that leaves pearlescent drops"
"Mizzle: very fine misty rain"
"Onion rain - that which falls unexpectedly in late spring, after the onions have been planted"
Well,
you get the idea. Knowing that all of you are very interested in
everything weather related, I am providing a link to the article:
http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2011/04/03/opinion/20110403_schott.html
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>:( was ready to hit save, and my page
disappeared. Wouldn't care so much, but I had faithfully
transcribed the Merlin's rather ocd logkeeper's very numerous locations
"sighted" with bearings. Grr. Didn't think I'd touched the
Ctrl key this time. Sigh...
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At least the weather outside is nice! ;D
yours -
Kathy W.
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Yes, yes it is! :D
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however, tomorrow it is supposed to be imbriferous and my yard will be impluvious
;D :P
yours -
Kathy W.
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;D Thought that was supposed to happen to day, but it would appear the weather has changed its mind.
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ocd here in South West England - forecast to get better as the week
goes on, though, so perhaps I'll get my washing dry eventually!
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Halfway between bc and oc here. Could be better, but I've got work
to do anyway, so it doesn't really matter much, I suppose.:(
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Various 5-6 CR (I can hear my poor trashcan being blown around ;D)
Kathy W.
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Um, I don't think the Beaufort codes include references to trash cans. ;D ;D
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I don't know about that - I often use my trash can as a wind gauge... ;D
Kathy
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I gauge wind force by the amount of draught coming in through the sash window opposite my desk. ;)
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Bleh. I thought I'd finish the boring logs (i.e. the ones during
which the Patia was moored at Avonmouth for what felt like an eternity)
tonight, so I'd get a glimpse of the very first logs before moving on to
them tomorrow. But then all I got was the 'this voyage is finished'
message, after two very anticlimactic months of doing sod-all except
scraping and painting.
I'm a bit disappointed now.:(
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Look for a totally different ship in different waters.
The Lonely Ships (http://forum.oldweather.org/index.php?topic=1446.0) thread is good, as is using the OW Rankings/Percent Complete
(https://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0An8yHtxRRKO_dFRHQ01POU8zNC1IMllBdWw2MGpQREE&hl=en&authkey=CLrA08wC#gid=1)
to find ships that need finishing and/or ships rarely used and hungry
for a captain.
I can selfishly recommend HMS Torch - 2 ships that spend very little time sitting still in harbor. The sloop Torch
(http://forum.oldweather.org/index.php?topic=1206.0) you won't see
until toward the end, but she gives you an active 9 month voyage in the
south pacific in an old little tall ship that heavily depends on her
sails and interacts with many native islanders.
The destroyer Torch
(http://forum.oldweather.org/index.php?topic=885.0) is a tender to the
HMS Blenheim in Malta and the whole Mediterannean and Black seas, after 6
months at the end of the war patrolling the Scottish coast for
subs. Very active. The only difficulty she has, I put in a
fix for. She depends almost solely on landmarks rather than
Lat.Long. for location and her log-keepers scribble the names. I
posted a list of the sightings and ports (http://forum.oldweather.org/index.php?topic=885.msg11745#msg11745) that will make it easy to read and spell everything.
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mutabilitie,
farrelly's been on a recruitment drive and has worked up an attractive sales-pitch:
Please help finish Arlanza!
check out this photo: http://www.seayourhistory.org.uk/component/option,com_gallery2/Itemid,402/?g2_itemId=7888
what
happened? where was this photo taken? What happened next? hint:
not what you might think . . . but that part is in the logs, and mostly
in LOVELY CLEAR HANDWRITING!
for more info, search for Arlanza entries elsewhere in the forum.
And as an added bonus - overzealous logkeepers to boost your rankings, and horrendous weather!
As they might say on the BBC "Other ships are available".
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Good morning OW and guests. :D
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Thanks for the suggestions.:)
Finding a new ship isn't really a
problem. As a matter of fact I've already got one which I did a bit of
transcribing on earlier, and which is in a completely different part of
the earth (not that that's very hard, since the Patia was almost
exclusively on Atlantic Patrol). The only thing is that I'm a little
disappointed that I finished a ship which I had grown quite fond of on
such a profoundly boring note, and that I didn't even get to see the
very first logs.:( Apparently that only ever works when there are next
to no crew members, which is a bit of a shame. Viewing them after the
ship has been completed just isn't quite the same...
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Good morning OW. The forecast is sunny and 19-20oC here today. Woohoo!
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Morning shipmates, bright and sunny here as well :)
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Good morning OW
Wether is awfull. Rain, wind
I have not time that a pity :(
regards
ps.
Special greating for Kathy.
Everything is fine. I work in IT, I fell on a large project and did not have time to visit such venerable companies as OW.
Very very sorry about that.
I'm sorry that I did not write. Thank you again. Big hugs for the whole team.
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welcome back!
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Very glad to hear from you Szukacz - hope the project went well ;D - I glad you can come out and play again -
Kathy W.
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This is weird. I've transcribed 44 pages on my new ship now and
constantly making large skips ahead in date - which would make perfect
sense if the ship were nearly finished, but it isn't. It hasn't even hit
33% yet. ???
I think I'd better give up trying to understand how this works...
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Is there anyone else working on the ship? I've noticed the
same thing on the Macedonia which was only 15% when I started (now up to
25%, though not all my doing) so some of the logs haven't been
transcribed at all. But I think at the beginning of the project it
was working as intended and the first, second and third transcibers
would all have started at the very beginning of the logs. Then it
went awry and it got so that all the transcribers were leapfrogging each
other on the same pass through the logs.
So where you have a
ship with less than one-third of the logs completed, there will be a
chunk at the beginning which has been transcribed three times so you
won't get those pages at all. This will be followed by a chunk
which has been transcribed twice, then pages that have been transcribed
once, and then a load of pages at the end that have yet to be
transcribed at all. If you are on the bit that has been
transcribed twice and someone else is working on the ship, this
would account for why you are missing pages. Once you get on to
the part which has only been transcribed once or not at all, you should
get all the pages (unless lots more people start working on the ship).
On
the other hand I went back to the Sapphire after a 5 month absence,
thinking that now the logs were at 45% (and more people working on her)
she was bound to be somewhere else other than Brindisi, where I had
already spent so many happy weeks alongside. But no, the OW gods
have worked it so that I came back to the bits of the log I'd missed
last time ... Does this ship never leave Brindisi?! ;D
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As far as I can tell, nobody is working on that ship at the moment. Not very actively, anyway.
Oh well. It doesn't really matter, I suppose.
Edit:
Bleh. So far all the logs were nice and legible, but now it looks as
though I'll be stuck with the latest addition to the crew, Lieutenant Slanted.:(
Edit2: And now I've skipped back in time again, by two years. Must be that blasted Dr Who Easter special that Bunts was talking about...
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Hello everyone. This has been a very nice day. ;D
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Here we are again. Good evening Bunts, hello guests. :D
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An absolutely gorgeous day here in Maryland!
light airs, sunny, mid-70s -
finally! --
Kathy
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Hi Kathy. Glad to hear it. Rain clouds are gathering here. >:( ;)
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Sunshine Greetings, Caro,
Your mention of "Guests" reminds
me of an assumption I've made, that they are your actual members who
have not refreshed the page in the past 15 minutes. Is that so?
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Good afternoon, Bunts and Caro. Chicago is Lt. airs 1 c
mid-50s, but yesterday was stunning - we had the first 24 hours this
year of SSW 4 bz 79 - and small flowers and green leaflets are finally
starting to open!
Bunts, only on the Old Weather Forum Index page
there is a note on the very bottom saying who is visiting the forum -
which is how various members know who to say "Hi" to in Chat. The
'guests' listed are OW members who work on our transcriptions but have
not signed up to be active in the forum. They are the ones we are
recording the answers to questions for, they look up the stuff they need
very neatly. 8)
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JJ.
79 - sunscreen time already.
The 'guests' listed are OW members who work on our transcriptions but have not signed up to be active in the forum.
Eek!
You mean they're spying on us? Checking to see which of us is misusing the firm's equipment?
It's not my fault, Guests. The voices told me do it.
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JJ.
79 - sunscreen time already.
I
know - and it was glorious!! I walked down to the lake just to
get the maximum benefit from the weather, and the park was full - I
think just about everyone was down in one park or another to celebrate
Spring. I much prefer the normal seasonal shift, when spring
arrives by the end of March instead of waiting until the middle of
April. The picture I took was the edge of the park with a beach in
the background right, Lake Michigan on the left and the Chicago Gold
Coast buildings barely showing through the haze.
The 'guests' listed are OW members who work on our transcriptions but have not signed up to be active in the forum.
Eek!
You mean they're spying on us? Checking to see which of us is misusing the firm's equipment?
It's not my fault, Guests. The voices told me do it.
Not spying, visiting!!!! Consider yourself one of our better reasons to read the Dockside Cafe posts! ;D
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Janet -
Nice picture! ;D I too prefer the orderly progression of seasons! :D
And, I'm just saying, in the movies, no good ever comes from people looking in on others ;D
Kathy
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Good morning randi and guests. ;D
Love Google UK's animation today.
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The 'guests' listed are OW members who work on our transcriptions but have not signed up to be active in the forum.
Eek!
You mean they're spying on us? Checking to see which of us is misusing the firm's equipment?
It's not my fault, Guests. The voices told me do it.
Not spying, visiting!!!! Consider yourself one of our better reasons to read the Dockside Cafe posts! ;D
Are
the guests all fellow-transcribers though? If you put one of your
ships' names into Google you'll soon start seeing your own forum
postings coming up. Does that mean that anyone who is looking up
"our" ships can see what we've been writing about them?
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Yes, as I understand it, this is a public forum and anyone can visit.
Guests will not have access to the forum's tools or be able to see files added as attachments though.
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Good morning shipmates, one and all -
well, the light airs,
1, bc, 70s of yesterday have faded and we are once again various, 2-3,
rlg, 60s - ah, spring on the East Coast of the USA -
;D
Kathy
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Hi Kathy. April showers? ;D
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;D
based on this, we should have quite the profusion of May flowers!
Kathy
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A lovely announcement, which maybe belongs more on the Moon Zoo,
except I'm not over there. I don't have the vision/spatial
awareness or the fancy browser needed.
NASA today announced
(http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/chi-ap-il-spaceshuttle-chic,0,5101691.story)
which museums are getting the 3 working space shuttles after they are
retired this summer. They are going (obviously!) to the Air and
Space Museum in DC and to Cape Canaveral. The third one, which was
the only one 20 different museums could compete for is going to Los
Angeles, and the prototype Enterprise is going to New York City.
But they announced a special consolation prize for Chicago's Adler
Planetarium - we are getting the 3-story tall simulator that every US
astronaut has trained in, for Adler to use as a hands-on participatory
exhibit!
A nice announcement to hear, on the 50th anniversary of
the first manned orbit of earth, which even Google is celebrating in its
logo. :) 8)
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But they announced a special consolation prize for Chicago's Adler
Planetarium - we are getting the 3-story tall simulator that every US
astronaut has trained in, for Adler to use as a hands-on participatory
exhibit!
It sounds like you got the best of the deal, especially if it comes with a power supply cable.
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Nope - the city has to supply that!
The question I
have - they were discussing on the early morning news show in Chicago,
about how anyone transports something as big as a shuttle to a museum in
the middle of a city! The Adler had one advantage, that they may
still need to use when for that simulator. There is an old
military air strip across the lake in Michigan, right on the
shore. And Adler is in our lake-shore museum campus, directly on
the lake shore. They can land anything in Michigan and put it on a
barge to cross the lake. Fifty miles of water have to be easier
than 10 miles of city traffic when you are transporting something that
much bigger than the city streets are wide.
(The air strip is probably Navy - during WWII, our part of Lake Michigan was the training area for all new navy air carrier pilots; they'd converted 2 obsolete passenger steam ferries into faux carriers
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Wolverine_(IX-64)), with decks about
2/3's as long as the real thing and made them practice take-offs and
landings. The ships spent the nights moored at Navy pier in
downtown Chicago. I know more of that than usual, because my
stepmother served in the Coast Guard during that war. Being a
mostly trained school teacher, they lent her to the Navy who had her
spend the war at Great Lakes Naval Station teaching new pilots how to
read their dashboard.)
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JJ,
There is a circularity in your family history; what with
your involvement with ships, and aircraft carriers 300 miles from the
sea.
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JJ,
There
is a circularity in your family history; what with your involvement
with ships, and aircraft carriers 300 miles from the sea.
I suspect Janet's DNA...
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JJ,
There
is a circularity in your family history; what with your involvement
with ships, and aircraft carriers 300 miles from the sea.
I suspect Janet's DNA...
Very
probably my DNA - 6 of my great-grandparents came from the northern
shore of Europe along the Baltic, and their descendants have been stuck
landlocked ever since! :o
And forget your piddling 300 miles - it
is about 900 looking south, considerably more than 1,000 looking east,
and closer to 2,000 looking west. North is even further, but since
that sea is Canadian and usually frozen, I've never measured the
distance - I simply don't like that much cold. I am well
and truly landlocked!!!! Which means being within half an hour's
drive of one of the Navy's key training bases is fun. ;D
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Good morning LGB, good morning guests. ;D
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And a very good morning to you Caro and all our guests.
Breakfast will not be served on the patio this morning on account of inclement weather, dull, dank, overcast and drizzle
Have a nice day, off to Lunch at the Angel at Hetton, sure as anything beats a pint and a packet of crisps at the pub next door.
LGB
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Morning Caro and LGB and guests. Grey and dreary here.
Enjoy
your lunch at the Angel LGB - I had lunch at the Prince Arthur on
Wednesday and spent the afternoon playing darts, nice to find a pub that
still has a dart board and cribbage!
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Morning all
Cold but sunny over here. :D
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This one was fun, for Chicagoan me. HMS Torch was in harbor at
Venice, Italy, at the time so it probably wasn't required to celebrate
our July 4th. :)
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ADM%2053-63338/ADM%2053-63338-020_0.jpg
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Good morning LGB, Cyzaki, randi and guests. :D
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Good morning! I was hoping for a lie in this morning, but the bin lorries conspired against me, so here I am.
*YAWN*
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Good morning everyone
Definitely spring here, 2 swallows, dawn chorus of oystercatchers at 03:00 BSt and flocks of caravans on the A65
Have a nice day
LGB
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Good morning everyone
Definitely spring here, 2 swallows, dawn chorus of oystercatchers at 03:00 BSt and flocks of caravans on the A65
Have a nice day
LGB
Do you mind? I'm trying to overtake you in the rankings, and yet every time I'm here, so are you! Grrrrrrr...
;D ;D ;D :D :D :D
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I only wish Chicago's spring was that wholly sprung. We're in
the low to mid thirties tonight, with rain and snow mixed from now (2am)
into the morning - at least for us north of the city. :P
The
difference between spring snow and winter snow - and it is important -
is that it will all melt by noon, when the temps slide into the
40s. And normal spring flowers do survive such events. :)
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Good morning all -
ack - my daffodils have survived the
rather insane weather we have had here in Maryland, but they are being
eaten by something! >:( I'm sure there is some sort
of cosmic lesson here on Life, but I don't want it, I just want my
daffodils ;D
Anyway, I'm closing with a little ditty for your delectation and enjoyment:
There once was a group called Old Weather,
From old logs they enjoyed some small pleasure,
Twenty pages a day,
oh what does THAT say,
Its a memory I know they all treasure.
yours -
Kathy W. :D
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I've just planted foxgloves, eccinacia, delphiniums, and lupins. Now
I just need some rain, as there's no practical way for me to water
them!
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Why is it that the weeds always get growing before the plants you
really want? I love seeing the fresh leaves but those very attractive
dandelions spread their seeds everywhere although my brother has
acquired some tiny, tiny violas in a couple of patches on his lawn which
look really sweet.
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Why
is it that the weeds always get growing before the plants you really
want? I love seeing the fresh leaves but those very attractive
dandelions spread their seeds everywhere although my brother has
acquired some tiny, tiny violas in a couple of patches on his lawn which
look really sweet.
I filled my compost bin with weeds before I could even see any soil to plant the flowers in!
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Kathy
I think your poem was brilliant
LGB
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Here is this one: (a Haiku)
Old Weather - ships' logs
Saving our past for our now
Hopefully learning
:D
Kathy
Thanks LGB
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Great! Thanks Kathy. :D Here's one of mine.
through lines of pale ink
across the years men of the
sea look back at us
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wow - I love that one -
:-*
Old Weather (a semi-sonnet) ;D
I know what the skipping pages portend -
What ship, whose trip, will I join
After my journey comes to an end?
I think I'll let chance in - I'll flip a coin.
The men and the ships I hold most dear -
(Others say too, they are quite attached.)
It is an odd sort of feeling - so far so near
From their pages their history we snatch.
We joined to help make a new mold,
And yet, yet, (and here is the truth)
it is the ship's journey I love to behold.
(My forum postings show that, forsooth. ;D)
So to all who sign on for the trip,
Its a wild ride - don't lose your grip!
Kathy W.
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Whoa, Haiku on OW? Astonishing!
Who kept this log book?
And what the heck does it say?
Like hieroglyphics!
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:-* Deej -
quite a nice one!
Kathy
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Forsooth! ;) ;D
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Why thank you very much, but YOU just used "forsooth" in a
poem, so you are now my hero. Jim Morrison is dead, so he probably
won't mind being replaced.
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Good morning randi, LGB and 14 guests. ;D
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And a very good day to you Caro and Randi and now only 6 anonymous guests.
Please log in so that we see the whites of your eyes
Lovely day here, the only thing bleating is the sheep
LGB
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hello LGB
it seems that Kathy has let
in the haiku bug
;)
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An ode to Rosario:
Six weathers each day
But nothing else to report
What does this ship do?
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Caro
Up here we only do the "hosts of golden daffodils", anything avant-garde is frowned upon
LGB
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good morning all -
what airy heights will we reach today?
;) ;D
Kathy W.
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Good evening Kathy and all
Here we had light airs, bc, 75F (24C) and it will continue like this the rest of the week.
I hope your place has the same weather.
;D ;D
H.
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alas no, for me, today at least, it is Var. 3-4, rtl, 60ish F
I am glad ( and a bit jealous of your good fortune ;D)
Kathy
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I want some R, even some d or p would help, for my flower seeds. None forecast though :(
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I'll gladly pass some along - ;D
I enjoyed your haiku -
Kathy
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Hello everyone. Warm and [very] dry here too. :)
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Here we are again. Good morning all. ;D
Sunny and 25oC forecast today.
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Should be a lovely day in London! I'm going to be vampired at the
Blood Donation centre, then I might take a book and sit in a park and
read. That's if the lure of Old Weather doesn't pull me back home to my
computer...
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You will never catch LGB like that!!!
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You will never catch LGB like that!!!
I know! That's why my computer is pulling me back home, tempting as sitting in the sun reading a book is... ;D
The
vampiring has to happen though - I haven't given blood for ages and I
keep feeling guilty about it. I hope whoever gets my blood realises the
sacrifice I'm making Old Weather-wise... ;D ;D ;D
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I think blood doning is allowed for old weatherers and I am sure LGB
would not stoop so low as to take advantage of your temporary absence
for that valuable purpose to put on a spurt.
Reading a book in the park however is a different matter all together.
K
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How could even think that I would stoop so low, of course a lot depends on the book
Morning
Bright and sunny here, Willow Warbler arrived yesterday
LGB
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How could even think that I would stoop so low, of course a lot depends on the book
Morning
Bright and sunny here, Willow Warbler arrived yesterday
LGB
Well,
I'm a pint of blood lighter, and back ready to transcribe. I might be a
little bit slower today due to the difficulty in bending my left
(tabbing!) arm, but I'll give it a good go!
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I thought the rule was all is fair in love and transcribing ;D
good morning all -
we had storms yesterday, so today should be good - we seem to be in a one day off, one day on sort of pattern -
Kathy W.
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Well the day here is lovely as it was yesterday and I am enjoying a
good beer at the lakeside at a place called "Robinson" ;D ;D
It should not be called like that because it is quite crowded ;D ;D
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ah, ha ha ha -
you are killing me here -
;D
Kathy W.
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Good morning Janet or good evening
insomniac lgb
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Good morning/evening, LGB. Here in Chicago, it's late but not near late enough to burn up my insomnia. ;D
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And good morning from me. What a lovely morning! ;D
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Welcome back everyone !
Phew, what a relief to be back ! ;D
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Hello OW! ;D
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Hello! Yes, a relief to be back. And THANK YOU to the
admins for what I am sure has been hard work trying to get this back up
and running. ;D
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Yes, a very big thanks to Arfon and the team for their hard work on a UK holiday.
Gold stars all round.
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Hello everyone! I've missed you all!
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:-* :-* :-*
Thank goodness we are back - I was beginning to
have the DTs - we have got to get a Yahoo group or something like that
going - bad enough I couldn't transcribe, but I couldn't talk to ya'll
either.... :P
Thanks to the systems folks for saving me from further withdrawal-
Kathy
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:-* :-* :-*
Thank
goodness we are back - I was beginning to have the DTs - we have got to
get a Yahoo group or something like that going - bad enough I couldn't
transcribe, but I couldn't talk to ya'll either.... :P
Thanks to the systems folks for saving me from further withdrawal-
Kathy
There is a facebook page we can go to if we can't get on here.
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Old-Weather/167752819901957
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Good idea Cyzaki.
@the_zooniverse has been issuing bulletins
on Twitter during the down time which has been a big help. My username
on Twitter is Caro601 if you want to join me there. ;)
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I tried that, but there was no place for me to leave messages or see
messages - I don't use Facebook or Twitter, so I didn't know what to do
to get info (ack!)
Kathy W.
I guess I'll have to sign
onto Twitter now and learn how to use Facebook - but I still think a
yahoo group would be great (basically because I know how to use it
;D)
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By the way, happy birthday Janet. ;) ;D
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Janet -
(http://www.dinamobomb.net/animations/Birthday/birthday28.gif)
;D
Kathy W.
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Thank you, all! It's nice to share with friends. ;D
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Will I be a hero now?
;D
It is like watching your odometer roll over to 100,000 miles -
Kathy W.
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Will I be a hero now?
;D
It is like watching your odometer roll over to 100,000 miles -
Kathy W.
You are indeed a hero! ;D
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happy birthday, Janet ! :-*
and three cheers for Kathy :D
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Will I be a hero now?
;D
It is like watching your odometer roll over to 100,000 miles -
Kathy W.
Yep!! ;D
Facebook defeats me. It seems to be like Twitter, which I understand a little, in that they have to decide to be my
friend before I can post on their page. Which, if true, means I
can't use either to communicate during a blackout anyway. Or is
there a way to reply to posts?
But I can't figure out how to have
a Facebook "wall" created on facebook where someone can post.
Internet, forums and private bulletin boards are easy, but I think I'm a
wrong generation for these more sophisticated things.
EDIT: I tried Facebook again - you have to click that you "like it" and then you can post. I think that's what I did, anyway.
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Thank you, thank you very much - ;D
oh, I did do some
genealogical research whilst we were down and I have discovered that
some of my ancestors came from Durham - pip pip don't you know -
Kathy W.
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Oh, I've got ancestors in county Durham (not the city sadly) - perhaps we're connected somewhere in the past?
Congratulations
on reaching hero status! And it's so good to be back - now I
definitely know I'm addicted. ;D I got very twitchy all yesterday
not being able to transcribe, especially as I'm going to be away a lot
in the next month. I'm doing as much as I can today to get ahead
of myself - if that makes any sense!
Helen J
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So how long was OW down for? I tried to get onto the Forum
Thursday lunchtime and got a message that the whole of Zooniverse was
down and would hopefully be back within the hour. I couldn't even
try yesterday evening as the weekly shop interfered with any other plans
I might have had. By the time I had the chance to get on today
just after 5pm the site was working apart from the Forum.
So did I not miss much?
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For me it went down c 10.00 am UK time on Thursday. I had just
posted to the forum and it wouldnt show that post for me. Then wouldnt
let me back to the ship.
As far as I can see from the posts it seems to have come back c 5pm UK time this afternoon.
K
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The forum only came back a bit ago, but I've been able to transcribe for most of the day today.
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It was down by 8:00am here in Maryland - :(
And Helenj- maybe, the family name from Durham is Sewell - wouldn't be a kick in the pants if we were distant cousins? ;D
Kathy W.
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Kathy, I'm just about to go and visit my mum in Edinburgh, so I'll
ask her as she's the one who does the genealogy. It doesn't sound
familiar, but you never know ...
Helen J
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Evening OW, glad to be back :)
For anyone in the London
area who is at a loose end tomorrow, I'll be wandering around Greenwich
with Alice (moderator of Galaxy Zoo) and maybe a couple of other
zooites.
Our rough plan of action is to start at the Greenwich
Market at 11am before it gets too busy, then wander to the Maritime
museum and when we get tired of that, walk up the hill to the
observatory for some ice cream. Who knows, we may even finish up in the
Greenwich Union pub!
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Now I'm ever so jealous ! :o ;) ;D
Seriously, I wish I could be there.
And have a wonderful time everyone ! ;D
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quick - somebody call somebody - if we get one more person on the forum, we will tie for the most ever ;D
Kathy W.
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well night all -
I have to go tend that family of mine - they
don't seem to understand that their dinner and OW are not even on the
same planes of existence - but there you have it, if I don't feed them,
I'll get nothing but grief all night ;D
Ta -
Kathy W.
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Hi, OW. Got back from a trip to Boston (without my computer)
and discovered OW was down. :( :( Went way too long
without being able to transcribe. :'( :'(
It's great to be up and running again! Thank you to the admin folks who kept working on resolving the problems.
Also, Happy B-day, Janet J!
Congratulations to you, Kathy, on your new hero status!
C.
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Good morning Old Weather. ;D
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bctl in London ;D Waiting for the r :D
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There we go! octlr ;D
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No r here south of London. Lots of t though. :)
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Maybe it's on your way - the r seems to have stopped already here. Not enough for my flowers >:(
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Ooh, the r is back :D
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We had one clap of t and no r. My garden is parched.
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The r seems to have stopped again. We did have some t a minute ago, but it all seems to have passed over.
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We have just has 2t and 1 h.c.b
lgb
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Near Canary Wharf we had loads of t and lots of l and a sprinkling of r - my garden is wilting :(
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Yes, it is definitely the hose, both for the tunnel and for the veg patch tomorrow. Water butts are all empty.
K
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I can't water my garden - I'm in a first floor flat with no outside taps - so I rely on the rain!
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I am indeed very lucky to have a large rural garden, where I can
concentrate on veg and wildlife. it is my other main vice apart from OW.
We have had some excitement this weekend as our bees decided to swarm two days running.
Will have to wait until tomorrow to see if they have settled this time or if we will lose one colony for good.
Fingers crossed.
K
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We started with r at 8 bells and noon, then c, followed by bc. Temps
have been pleasant enough to sit out in garden but high teens not 20s.
Were promised more bc next week but now forecasters seem to think o or c
and much cooler. Ah well, normal scottish weather service has been
resumed. I just hope that last week wasn't summer.
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Good morning Old Weather.
Another warm, sunny day with no rain in sight. This is weird. :D
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Good morning,
same over here :D
Apparently, we had the highest temperature in Europe, two days in a row ! In Belgium ! :o ;D
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Morning OW, Caro and Els.
Hot here as well. Received 5 minutes of rain last night, not enough for my garden :(
Weather will be cooling down in a few days - I look forward to that!
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I don't. ;)
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Take care, all. JJ
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Thanks for your greeting; Happy Easter to you, too.
I do not recognise the craft on the river. Could they be DUKWs?
http://tinyurl.com/3b8ggjy
http://tinyurl.com/3cc2onu
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DUCKs are fun - The Wisconsin Dells (http://www.wisconsinducktours.com/photo.html) uses them for tours of the rocky river bluffs.
I must admit, I don't think these ducks are large enough for that adventure. ;D
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I keep meaning to go on the London Duck tour - it looks really interesting.
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I
am indeed very lucky to have a large rural garden, where I can
concentrate on veg and wildlife. it is my other main vice apart from OW.
We have had some excitement this weekend as our bees decided to swarm two days running.
Will have to wait until tomorrow to see if they have settled this time or if we will lose one colony for good.
Fingers crossed.
K
How are your bees going on, Tegwen? I have been anxiously awaiting an update!
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DUCKs are fun
Depends on the circumstances.
My father
"drove" one in June 1944. He reckoned that the training to "park" one
inside a troop carrier (swinging or moving) through the ship's side
produced a lot of work for men with hammers to straighten the front end
of the DUKWs till they figured it out. "Run close alongside, get level
with the hole, hard over, full throttle & hope."
Ten years later
we saw one on the beach at Southport. My father had a word with the
owner who showed us around it. My father said he doubted that it was
"his".
Fifteen years later I was on a boating holiday. Travelling in
a strong cross wind along a very large lake with few navigation
markers, I was aiming for the next one when I remembered something my
father had said about currents and cross winds: "Don't rely on a single
target ahead. Look for something beyond it and keep the two more or less
in line. It's like a car on an icy road, it'll go sideways." I soon
realised that we were being blown sideways and steered to windward for a
spell, before lining up the marker with a landmark. I mentioned this to
the next helmsman. An hour or so later we came across a cruiser that
had run aground to leeward of the marked channel. We hailed her
from a "safe" distance but there was no sign of occupants. Clearly we
wouldn't have grounded there as the space was occupied, but we could
have done it elsewhere.
Good old Dad.
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Good morning all.
Remembering the fallen on this ANZAC day.
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I
am indeed very lucky to have a large rural garden, where I can
concentrate on veg and wildlife. it is my other main vice apart from OW.
We have had some excitement this weekend as our bees decided to swarm two days running.
Will have to wait until tomorrow to see if they have settled this time or if we will lose one colony for good.
Fingers crossed.
K
How are your bees going on, Tegwen? I have been anxiously awaiting an update!
Thanks for asking Thursdaynext.
We
didnt open up the hive we put them into yesterday to minimise
disruption, but there were bees around it all day so we were hopeful. I
have just checked this morning and they are in there.
We have no idea why they didnt like it first time, but I guess they found nowhere better so went back again.
We
havent yet gone through to check that the queen is there but it that is
most likely so it looks as if we have managed to house them
successfully.
We now have two queenless hives, with brood and
queen cells in so it is up to them to make new queens and for them to
mate and start laying, so we dont have a clear run yet this year, but we
could end up with three hives, which would be more than we expected.
Fingers still crossed.
K
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Good morning all -
I have been on the Ducks as Wisconsin Dells - it was a lot of fun ;D
I hope everyone had a good day yesterday - it was very nice for me and mine -
Please
keep us posted on the bees - are they for your garden / personal honey
supply or do you loan them out? There are bee keepers here in the
States, so I am assuming also in Europe, that rent their bees to farmers
for pollination purposes -
Sounds like your dad was a good
teacher, Bunts...my dad taught me to never draw to an inside straight,
and how to dress out a fish... ;D
Kathy W.
Kathy W.
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Kathy W,
Sounds like your dad was a good teacher
Yeah, but I bet your dad had a more attentive student.
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That's good news about the bees, Tegwen. I'll keep my fingers crossed for them as well!
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Thanks everyone for the good wishes. I have passed them on to the bees.
We just keep them because we think it is a good thing to do and interesting. My wife is chief beekeeper. I am only assistant!!!
We do enjoy a little honey and give some away to friends and neighbours.
We
have a plan to sell one full hive, through the local club, per year, as
this will just about enable the hobby pay for itself. We certainly dont
have plans (or room) to have more than two hives through the full year
so they are insufficient to make money from them. Also no plans to loan
them to farmers etc. There are no fruit farms near here and most farmers
use too many pesticides to risk moving them.
If you dont mind
the occasional update I will post the major news here. If anyone is
anywhere near Frome, Somerset and wants to see inside a bee hive you
will be welcome through the summer.
All the best
K
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I would love to hear about the bees - one of my favorite mystery
authors, Charlotte MacLeod (who also wrote under the nom de plume Alisa
Craig) used bees as a murder weapon in one of her books - The Silver Ghost (I highly recommend her - literate, funny and not gruesome)
Kathy W
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Thanks Kathy.
Having received the odd sting, death from a swarm of bees sounds pretty gruesome to me, but I will look out for her.
K
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well yes, if you stop to think about I guess so ;D, but she
doesn't go into clinical details about the affects a swarm of bees can
have on a person -
Kathy
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This bad weather year is continuing with a vengence. I'm
grateful that the vast majority of the spring badness has passed south
of Chicago, striking the lower midwest and the southeast. The
worst we have felt of it is an extremely late, cold spring - the first
leaflets on our trees are just beginning to open up this week.
The
evening news underlined what I hadn't totally added up in my own head -
this April has had the most tornadoes recorded in any one month in US
history. There have been 292 sighted tornadoes so far (the month
isn't over) and 39 people killed by them - most of the tornadoes are in
the plains and southern states, and most of the deaths in the eastern
seaboard states where tornadoes [and the shelters needed to survive
them] are much rarer. And over 200 alerts for other kinds of
severe storms or floods. More storms are passing through the same
region tonight.
I just wanted to honor our dead here, and share my grief with community. Thank you.
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I think that most of us in the UK don't fully appreciate the
extremes of weather that can occur elsewhere. Our weather is highly
variable (3 seasons in a week if not a day) and fairly unpredictable
hence our obsession with it but, praise be, we are mainly spared the
worst excesses.
I am so glad that we are usually spared the sort of
situation you describe with all its fear. RIP to all those who died and
our sympathy to their families and friends.
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Janet is absolutely right - the weather here has been all over the
place - 40s one day tornado warnings the next. We have have
multiple severe thunderstorms, the Potomac has flooded, at least 2
tornado warnings...and it is not even May yet. I shudder to think
what July and August will be like - bad, to severe (hail, winds,
pounding rain, lightening) storms are a regular occurrence because of
the wicked combination of heat and humidity we have here (Montgomery
County, Maryland).
ack...and Pepco is my power company ;D
Kathy W.
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HELP - the Foxglove is in one whale of a storm and I don't remember how to record the double underlined codes!!!
Need help STAT -
;D
Thanks -
Kathy
ADDENDUM: Yahoo - I found the thread where this was discussed - and I have been notating the codes correctly ;D -
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Good morning Old Weather. :D
There is a Zooniverse blogpost
about the recent server problem here
(http://blogs.zooniverse.org/blog/2011/04/27/recent-downtime-at-the-zooniverse/).
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Good morning Caro and anon Guests
All seems very quiet,
everyone must be getting their bunting out. Sadly our invitation
has not arrived so I will spend tomorrow on jobs around the house while
the management watches the ceremony.
Another good blog
lgb
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I
would love to hear about the bees - one of my favorite mystery authors,
Charlotte MacLeod (who also wrote under the nom de plume Alisa Craig)
used bees as a murder weapon in one of her books - The Silver Ghost (I highly recommend her - literate, funny and not gruesome)
Kathy W
I remember that one. I especially liked Vane Pursuit and The Curse of the Giant Hogweed.
There was another one, I don't remember the title, that had a wonderful
crack about 'coffee table' books with the shrink wrap still on
(something about collections of stick pins?).
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I think that is in The Odd Job - I love all of her books (I have all of them and go on a reading binge every now and again ;D )
Kathy W.
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Left out the word books in the last message, but I see that you knew which I was talking about.
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It is The Odd Job - of course I had to look into it ;D
Kathy W.
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Thanks :D
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I would like to send all those in the Commonwealth a most hearty
"HUZZAH" and congratulations - the wedding was very nice and the
dress was beautiful - they look like they will be a splendid King and
Queen some day.
Kathy W.
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Yes, I am all weddinged-out now and ready to get back to work on Old
Weather - but it was good to see a bit of pomp and pageantry. And
the r held off for them too,
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It was definitely fun to watch, and the ABC network did very good coverage.
Definitely a wonderful wedding, with a very nice fairy-tale feel. :)
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Good morning OW.
ENE 2-3 b ;)
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Ding Dong the witch is dead,
which old witch?
The wicked witch!
Ding Dong the wicked witch is dead!
Kathy W.
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This is good!!! Bin Laden killed far more Muslims than Americans, he was a very evil man.
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Celebrating anyone's death sits very uncomfortably with me.
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Celebrating anyone's death sits very uncomfortably with me.
Thank you.
I can't say I'm sorry he is dead given the harm he has done, but I wish it had been 'natural causes'.
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Celebrating anyone's death sits very uncomfortably with me.
Thank you.
I can't say I'm sorry he is dead given the harm he has done, but I wish it had been 'natural causes'.
Indeed - even better would have been if they'd managed to bring him in alive to face a trial.
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You know, normally, I would agree with you and I admit, I am ashamed
of my self for the elation I am feeling, and I have prayed about it,
but....
Because of that man and his followers, for a time on
9/11, I did not know if my husband was dead or alive. He works in
the heart of DC and there were reports of a plane crashing somewhere
near his building. Thankfully, the reports turned out to be false,
but I will never be able to forget how that felt.
Because of that man and his followers, a very sweet young woman who had played with my children was dead.
The
only reason my sister's husband still has his sister is because she
overslept one Tuesday, and missed her normal train from New Jersey into
New York where she worked. She got off her train at the Trade
Center station. The only reason my sister's husband still has his
brother is because he got out of his building, which was very near the
Trade Center and I believe had to be demolished in the clean up effort.
Because
of this man and his followers, I got a letter from my children's school
asking parents to send in bottled water and nonperishable food so that
our children could "shelter in place" just in case.
I also know
that there are families in Madrid, London, Bali, and so many other
places in the world, that, because of this man and his followers, never
get to say "I love you" or "What's for dinner" or any of the normal day
in and day out things I get to say. So, yes, I agree, to celebrate
a death is unseemly, but I for one just can't help myself.
Kathy W.
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Chicago is more than a thousand miles from NYC, so none of my family or neighbors might have been there. But...
Because
of this man, I found a librarian sitting at her desk to near hysteria
to think let alone work because her husband had just gone on a business
trip and was currently on a plane in the air going to New York
City. (He called her when his plane was turned around and landed
back in Chicago.)
"Celebrate" is the wrong word to use for how I
feel about this - its closer to a great relief combined with joy. I
don't want to dance in the streets because we killed him. I feel
joy (enough to maybe dance in the streets) that the fear that he will
add many more murders to the tens of thousands he already killed (most
of them Moslem, not American) has now been completely removed from this
earth.
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Unfortunately his supporters are still around - time will tell
whether they will fade away now their leader has gone, or whether they
will be more inclined to take revenge. Let's all hope it's the former.
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Oh, I am not so naive as to think that terrorism will go away - "We
have scorched the snake, not killed it", but he was a symbol and symbols
are very powerful things.
Kathy W.
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I agree - worry about retaliation is the second half of my immediate
response. Al-Quaeda is a network, not a tight organization that
will fall apart when its head is cut off.
This is still a very evil man, and I'm glad he is gone.
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Good morning Old Weather. :D
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Good morning. bc here but p and r forecast for weekend. Boo-hoo I am
going on a bus trip on Sat with a group from the village and low clouds
and rain will definitely spoil the views and inhibit going for a walk
in favour of the coffee shop!
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Definitely no r here.
The coffee shop alternative sounds OK to me. ;)
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Good morning OW. The drought has broken. :D
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Good morning
No drought, but sunny
lgb
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It looks like it rained overnight here, but not enough rain still :(
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We've had some rain which has stimulated the weeds! Hope for b, or
o, or even c today though because a group of us from the village are off
on a trip to Oban and it will be much better if we can see the hills
and walk along the seafront. So, not much transcribing today
although I have done an odd page or two over breakfast tea.
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One dramatic bit of l and t overnight, some R earlier this morning, now just p.
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Still R here in Somerset. Garden happily lapping it up.
K
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We just had some t, seems to be mostly p here. I hope the rain keeps up, then I can plant my tomatoes!
It was always destined to rain this weekend as I finally caved in and bought a watering can...
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R! Hurrah!
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Lots of r in the night here too. Happy garden. ;D
Good morning all.
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Still no r and none in sight.
Good morning to all and especially to all Mothers as today in Switzerland is Mother's Day :)
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Hi h. It's Mother's Day in many countries today.
A happy day to mothers everywhere. :D
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Here in the UK it is celebrated on the third(?) Sunday in Lent, so
it shifts from year to year. When I was a kid it was known as 'Mothering
Sunday' but of late the North American 'Mother's Day' is more common
although the date is different.
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The US holiday doesn't seem to have any connection at all to Britain's chosen days, except that we all honor our mothers.
Happy Mother's day to all mothers who celebrate it today.
(https://www.t-mobilepictures.com/myalbum/photos/photo22/60/c4/2fe263c4f2d4__1304858334000.jpg)
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Good morning Old Weather. ;D Light airs b 12oC.
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Morning Old Weather and Caro. "b" here but hoping for some "R"!
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o here at the moment. r forecast for later but I hope to get some washing dry first!
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Good Morning! Chicago is starting with b mid-50s, but supposed
to move through bc to c to o, with occasional rtl and a high around
70. In other words, a beautiful spring day. The crab apple
tree I can see from my window is in full bloom. ;D
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Good morning all -
It should be a fine, fine day here in the nation's capital - light airs/bc/70s -
ahh- Spring -
Kathy W.
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Good evening/afternoon/morning Old Weather. :D
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Good night, Caro. I think I'll have an early(ish) night.
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Happy Friday 13th everyone! ;D
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Good morning Cyzaki, good morning all. ;D
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Here we are again...
Good morning LGB and Randi [and 12 guests]. ;D
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Good morning Caro and fellow travelers
Early morning tea served, now time to deal with OCD followed by some DIY after a spot of Coffee and toast.
Great
excitement in garden, Song Thrush (Turdus philomelos) nesting, please
may I borrow a four inch gun to deal with heighbourhood cats.
lgb
P S Apologies to cat lovers everywhere
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That would be me. ;)
Borrowing a dog might do the trick.
And watch out for the magpies too.
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Jackdaws are a real problem, they had the Spotted Flycatchers last year.
Next
door neighbour hates Jackdaws and is a crack shot. Dogs are OK,
Airedales love giving cats tree climbing lessons but sadly our present
house is not suitable for a puppy, at least that's what the management
says
lgb
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I know more than one person who got a cat because they hate cats -
their own cat then makes their garden its territory, and no other cats
come in any more.
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That is true Cyzaki but it doesn't solve the bird problem if you find you have given a home to a great hunter.
An Airedale pup is obviously what you want/need lgb. Tell the management I said so. ;)
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That is true Cyzaki but it doesn't solve the bird problem if you find you have given a home to a great hunter.
Put a bell on its collar ;D
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We have both cats and dogs. Cats seem to concentrate on mice, and there are enough of them to go round.
Our dogs certainly dont inhibit the cats in any way. (Quite the opposite).
Frustratingly
we have Magpies nesting in the hedge so not much else gets a chance.
However, I hope to lay that part of the hedge next winter so that should
reduce chance of Magpies and thicken up the hedge for other birds.
Some
bad news on the bee front yesterday. We now have two hives with no
queen so it looks as if we have to buy in a new one. We just hope they
can survive until she arrives. Wish we knew what we were doing wrong as
we had this problem last year too.
K
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That is true Cyzaki but it doesn't solve the bird problem if you find you have given a home to a great hunter.
Put a bell on its collar ;D
Some cats learn how to move without ringing their bells. ;D
One of mine now wears a 'pounce detector' collar.
The collar emits a beep and a light flashes at any sudden movement.
Cat has done his best to remove the collar but he hasn't succeeded yet.
I hope you have better luck with a new queen bee Keith.
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That is true Cyzaki but it doesn't solve the bird problem if you find you have given a home to a great hunter.
Put a bell on its collar ;D
What weight would you suggest?
lgb
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Some
bad news on the bee front yesterday. We now have two hives with no
queen so it looks as if we have to buy in a new one. We just hope they
can survive until she arrives. Wish we knew what we were doing wrong as
we had this problem last year too.
Sad news! Will the hives accept any queen, or is introducing a new queen a tricky process?
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That is true Cyzaki but it doesn't solve the bird problem if you find you have given a home to a great hunter.
Put a bell on its collar ;D
What weight would you suggest?
lgb
(http://www.sethwhite.org/images/fram/bell.jpg)
One of those should do it.
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Ooh, that picture is quite huge, sorry :-\
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Some
bad news on the bee front yesterday. We now have two hives with no
queen so it looks as if we have to buy in a new one. We just hope they
can survive until she arrives. Wish we knew what we were doing wrong as
we had this problem last year too.
Sad news! Will the hives accept any queen, or is introducing a new queen a tricky process?
Thanks for asking.
In
theory a colony without a queen should accept a new one if it is done
correctly. The process is that the queen is posted in a cage with a
stopper made of sugar. The queen plus cage is put into the queenless
hive and the bees eat the sugar gradually while they get used to her
smell and her hormones begin to control the hive. Hopefully she will
start laying as soon as the stopper is eaten and she can get out of the
cage. The worry is that there will be a period where the current bees
die of old age and the new bees havent aged to the point where they
become foragers, so the hive will need feeding during that period, but
is still very vulnerable.
Lots of finger crossing and worry to come, but hopefully the new queen will be of better stock so wont be as keen to swarm etc.
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Lots of finger crossing and worry to come, but hopefully the new queen will be of better stock so wont be as keen to swarm etc.
We'll all have our fingers crossed too!
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Lots of finger crossing and worry to come, but hopefully the new queen will be of better stock so wont be as keen to swarm etc.
We'll all have our fingers crossed too!
Thanks very much. I will keep you posted.
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That is true Cyzaki but it doesn't solve the bird problem if you find you have given a home to a great hunter.
Put a bell on its collar ;D
Some cats learn how to move without ringing their bells. ;D
One of mine now wears a 'pounce detector' collar.
The collar emits a beep and a light flashes at any sudden movement.
Cat has done his best to remove the collar but he hasn't succeeded yet.
I hope you have better luck with a new queen bee Keith.
I use the 'pounce detector' collars too for two of my cats. Expensive to buy, but I think they are quite effective.
Also wishing you good luck with your new queen bee, Keith.
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Good morning Randi and Cyzaki, good morning all.
7.00 WSW 2-3 12oC ;)
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Morning OW, first coffee of the day going down well :)
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Morning OW, first coffee of the day going down well :)
Hmm. Is coffee more popular than tea in the UK nowadays?
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I think tea is still the favourite.
I normally start the morning with two mugs of coffee and then drink tea for the remainder of the day :)
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Ooh, that picture is quite huge, sorry :-\
You could modify the size by using the "height" modifier, e.g. change the 'img' tags to [img height=600]
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Morning OWers- how is everyone?
Kathy W.
Tea-sweet, strong and iced! ;D
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Nature news from the suburbs of Exeter - up to my eyes in Puss
Moths! I've lived here 12 years and may have seen the odd one
before, but now seem to have at least four newly emerged. And I'm
not aware of any poplar or willow in the immediate vicinity. I
hope I get to see some caterpillars later on - I didn't see any last
year, but presumably they must have been about, or I wouldn't have all
these Puss Moths in the garden now!
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Morning OWers- how is everyone?
Kathy W.
Tea-sweet, strong and iced! ;D
Good, thanks! Two cups, Earl Grey, with milk & sugar, here! :D
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Oh No!! My two pet tea hates in one post! Cold tea and Earl Grey with milk!!!
For me tea must be hot.
I enjoy black Earl Grey, but just the thought of that citrus taste with milk as well does not sit well with me.
K
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I, too, am not a fan of iced tea at all.
Citrus?
I detect notes of licorice in Earl Grey, not citrus. Maybe the
stuff we get here in the US is not authentic Earl Grey?
I agree
that tea must be hot, but I like to have it gradually cool to a
drinkable temperature. There's something so comforting about a
warm cup in the morning, to ease one into the beginning of the day.
However, I had a roommate in New York City back in the mid-70s who got
me into the habit of milk and sugar in my tea, and ever since cannot
have tea without them.
For that matter, I cannot drink green tea at all, nor can I stand stand sweetened coffee (or coffee ice cream).
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The oil that gives Earl Grey its distinctive character is Oil of Bergamot. Bergamot is a citrus plant.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earl_Grey_tea
I agree that it is not the same as orange or lime, but for me it certainly has lemony notes.
The hotter the better!!!
I am belatedly coming towards green tea, other herb teas are definitely a step too far though.
As someone once said. "Do I look as if I drink peppermint tea?"
K
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;D Good one.
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Just enjoying a cup of hot, milkless, sugarless Earl Grey. ;D
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you all fail the "Belle Test" - tea is to be cold, sweet, strong and
drunk on the front porch (veranda ;D ) whilst fanning oneself and
saying "Deah me, how long can this heat last?"
;) :P
Kathy W.
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Veranda? Heat? I wish. ;)
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The oil that gives Earl Grey its distinctive character is Oil of Bergamot. Bergamot is a citrus plant.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earl_Grey_tea
I agree that it is not the same as orange or lime, but for me it certainly has lemony notes.
The hotter the better!!!
I am belatedly coming towards green tea, other herb teas are definitely a step too far though.
As someone once said. "Do I look as if I drink peppermint tea?"
K
Have
you tried white tea? (ie white, as opposed to black or green tea,
rather than tea with milk in it!) It seems to have a smoother
sort of flavour than green tea. White tea with vanilla is my
absolute favourite tea - have just finished a cup and it is my usual
tipple when transcribing of an evening.
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I like green tea too - especially with a hint of citrus...
When
I'm not feeling well, I do enjoy a cup of hot tea with sugar and
Captain Morgan's Spiced Rum - it will do one of 2 things - make you feel
better and make you not care as much about feeling bad - ;D
Hot
tea is also good in the winter, but if I'm drinking something to warm
up, I'll fix hot cocoa (from scratch - no mix :P )
Coffee does not pass these lips in any form -
Kathy w.
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I have yet to try white tea. Must keep a look out for it.
Hot Black tea (no milk) with a mint leaf and lemon in is special in hot weather.
I
certainly agree with the idea of adding Rum to tea when it is cold.
Jeagertee as it is known in Germany. We used to use Stroh Austrian 100
proof dark rum. Very fierce but Ok in tea. Definitely either a cure or
you couldnt care less whether you die or not sort of remedy.
We
also have some wonderful chocolate drink bought back from Oaxaca in
Mexico. Cinnamon and almond in as well as chocolate & sugar. That is
great for a cold night.
K
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As far as I'm concerned, if it's not made from tea leaves, it's not
tea. And it's got to have milk and two sugars, and be nice and strong!
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you
all fail the "Belle Test" - tea is to be cold, sweet, strong and drunk
on the front porch (veranda ;D ) whilst fanning oneself and saying
"Deah me, how long can this heat last?"
;) :P
Kathy W.
I thought that Cyzaki's bell was excellent, the cat is none too pleased
As to tea, strong made with leaves not bags, little milk, no sugar - in fact time to put the kettle on
Toast anyone?
lgb
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Ah, first thing in a morning it's gotta be coffee - I need the caffeine hit to get me going!
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Large coffee for me too please. Morning all. :D
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Hello Helen. Are you still in South Korea?
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Good Morning (or whatever!) everyone.
I?m one of those odd people who just can?t stand the smell or taste of coffee.
I love hot cocoa.
I
like black tea with milk and sugar (I?m trying to cut down on the sugar
:P). My current favorite is with almonds (I bought it as an experiment,
and somewhat to my surprise I really liked it), but I also like vanilla
and cinnamon teas. I used to like Twinings Irish Breakfast tea, but I
can?t find it here, and the Irish Breakfast tea I do find is completely
different. I buy loose tea not because I?m a connoisseur but because I
wanted to reduce the packaging (when I use up all the tea I take the bag
back to the store to refill it).
I?ve tried various green teas
because I know that they are supposed to be good for you, but I haven?t
found anything I liked. There is a red tea (rooiboos) with vanilla that I
like. I haven?t tried white tea yet, but I will get some next time I
buy tea (unfortunately I just bought some).
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Hello Caro,
Yes, I am, sitting peacefully in a small flat in
Gumi (around the centre of South Korea) and just about to try some
transcribing for the first time since I got here. It's a quiet
afternoon and it seems a good use of the time. This borrowed
computer works on IE not Firefox, so I'm hoping I won't have problems,
and that everything is working again now - I've just been reading the
interface problems thread and it seems things were bad yesterday.
To
join in the coffee and tea debate - yesterday I had cinammon tea for the
first time - cold, and brought at the end of a meal, as an aid to
digestion. Very good too. Normally I'm not a tea drinker at
all - with or without milk, or sugar, but this was excellent.
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Hi Randi and good to hear from you Helen. I hope the transcribing goes well.
The bugs seem to have been fixed, thanks to Arfon and co.
Tea varieties: the worst has to be camomile tea. :P Fighting words, I know.
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I'm with you on the camomile Caro! :D
I'm having some sort of problem so just off to post on the interface issues thread ....
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HAPPY BIRTHDAY DJ ;D
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HAPPY BIRTHDAY DJ ;D
And so say all of us!
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Many happy returns, DJ! Hope your day is delightful and free from interface issues!
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Happy birthday DeeJ - all the best people have their birthday in May ;D
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;D DEEJ -
http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=dePMU8R131s&vq=small
:-*
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Phew, just made it ! ;D
Happy Birthday Deej :-*
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Good morning/afternoon Helen. :D
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Afternoon here, and another beautiful one. Just about to get
transcribing - back to the Northern Patrol with temperatures in the 40s,
and hail ....
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Enjoy! I hope the interface is behaving itself today.
I just did a couple of pages without mishap.
Overcast with heavy dew here this morning; still no rain though.
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Yes, all seems to be working fine, now I know about the Windows7/IE9
glitches. Temperatures on Northern Patrol have gone up to the 50s
- but it is June ...
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Thought I'd get in the first 'good morning OW' - a civilized 11.08
here in Korea, but the middle of the night back in the UK. Weather
here is c, probably variable winds, temperatures in the 70s I guess -
beautiful!
Helen J
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A slightly later good morning at 7.30 BST.
Another calm, sunny morning here. ;D
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Morning OW, still dry here, had no rain for ages :(
What's wrong with the forum clock? It says I posted this at 8:31am but it's 7:31.
I checked my profile and it is set up correctly and gives the correct time there.
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Hi Geoff. I put my forum clock back an hour a few days ago.
I'm sure I had it set to BST but it was showing an hour ahead.
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Hi Caro
I removed the 1-hour offset from the profile time and now it's correct :)
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Yes, the forum clock seems to be set to BST, not GMT/UT. :-\
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Good morning Randi, Philip and guests. ;D
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Good morning, Caro and anyone else logged on.
r here when I woke up - I had planned to do the washing but will either leave it for later or wait till Sunday and check again.
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Good afternoon everyone -
Today seems to be one of those days where lyricist just won't stay quiet -
Here is something for your collective delectation - loosely based on the tune for Rawhide:
Posting, posting, posting,
keep those ships agoin'
do a hundred pages,
we can't seem to stop it,
Transcribe!
Don't stop to research it,
or your rank, you'll lose it,
just keep on atypin',
so you won't be left there high and dry.
Transcribe!
That a q or a p?
What is THAT? I don't know.
Figure it out, ask around.
Transcribe!
Note down all the weather,
and the logs we treasure,
Soon we'll read it better,
and we'll be typing all night long.
That a q or a p?
What is THAT? I don't know.
Figure it out, ask around.
Transcribe!
Kathy W.
(Please feel free to tell me to control myself, if necessary)
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;) ;D
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Loved your poem, Kathy! ;D ;D
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Thanks - there is something peculating based on Stormy Weather or The Loveboat, but I'll spare everyone those two -
;D
Kathy W.
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However, I now have Rawhide stuck in my head. ;)
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that is how it starts - ;D
I just kept hearing the voice of the singer saying Transcribe as I was, in fact, transcribing :D
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;D Love that one, Kathy.
Morning all.
Happy birthday Geoff
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Indeed, Happy Birthday Geoff.
K
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Happy Birthday Geoff !
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Afternoon OW and thanks for the birthday wishes.
I've been cleaning up the garden for tomorrow - a birthday BBQ :)
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Happy Birthday Geoff ! :-*
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(http://www.wondercliparts.com/birthday/birthday_graphics_04.gif)
Geoff
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Happy Birthday, Sir Geoff!
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Morning OW and thanks for all the birthday wishes. About to start
preparing salads for the BBQ and making sure the wine is drinkable
:)
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Happy birthday, Geoff!
It's always important to sample the
spirits before your guests! After all, you wouldn't want to
provide any corked wine... ;D
C.
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Any excuse ! ;) ;D
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ok - all this talk about BBQ has my quedar pinging away - I am honor
bound to make sure everyone is using that term correctly -
Bar-b-que
is cooking meats over a fire contains woods that provide a flavored
smoke. The meat is also seasoned with a dry rub or sauce, which
can be vinegar based or tomato based, depending on the location of the
cooking apparatus -
Merely cooking meats over a gas or charcoal fire is simply grilling.
Personally,
my favorite bbq is Texas style beef brisket (of course ;D) - my
least favorite has to be Carolina style - I like my sauce a little on
the thick side, tomatoey, both sweet and spicy, not vinegary and
thin. The best bbq I have every had though, was at a little shack
in Clarence, Louisiana. There is also a place in Jackson,
Tennessee, that makes heavenly pulled pork.
;D
Kathy W.
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Good morning Randi, good morning all.
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Good morning Caro. Good morning all.
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Good morning. We are now in the lull after the storm although we've
just had another heavy shower with an odd crackle of thunder.
Yesterday was rq with 8+winds. We don't usually get them at this
time of year and it was amazing seeing the large trees flexing with the
gusts as the wind caught their leaves - my garden is carpeted with
them. Trains off because power lines down, airports under threat
of closure thanks to volcanic ash but house intact and main village road
open so mustn't grumble.
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Glad to hear that you are OK.
I hope things get back to normal soon.
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Good
morning. We are now in the lull after the storm although we've just had
another heavy shower with an odd crackle of thunder. Yesterday
was rq with 8+winds. We don't usually get them at this time of
year and it was amazing seeing the large trees flexing with the gusts as
the wind caught their leaves - my garden is carpeted with them.
Trains off because power lines down, airports under threat of closure
thanks to volcanic ash but house intact and main village road open so
mustn't grumble.
Is all of that because of the volcano? :o or is that standard spring weather where you are?
Kathy W
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There were bad storms yesterday Kathy: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-13517316
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good grief - what is going on with the weather?
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Any storm that has 100mph winds deserves headlines! I'm glad
it didn't kill anyone. The rescuers in Joplin, looking for the
1500 still missing from that bad tornado, are having their efforts
disrupted by additional storms, 2 of them were struck by lightning and
one had to be hospitalized. And the Mississippi has flooded so
that places that are normally half a mile wide are now three miles
wide. The Father of Waters can be very powerful.
The whole
world's weather is badly off balance this year. It really scares
me a bit, and makes this study project more important to me. I do
not like watching my country get hit in 2 months by twice as many
tornadoes we usually get in a whole year.
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Good morning Old Weather. Hi Liz. ;)
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:D :D Hi, Caro. I hope everyone on OW has a wonderful day!
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So, Geoff -
how was your birthday do - I hope everything was to your liking!
Kathy
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So, Geoff -
how was your birthday do - I hope everything was to your liking!
Kathy
Morning OW, bit cooler today, though still no rain in London.
My
birthday do went very well, 19 people turned up, weather was good and I
was working on the BBQ most of the afternoon. Lots of wine and beer and
good company. Afterwards we walked to the Mudchute city farm and
visited the Llamas, sheep, pigs etc.
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Hi Geoff. Rain is promised today. :-\ :D
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Just come north Geoff - if you want rain. Raining at the moment,
puddles in the fields and heating required at night. Autumn has come in
May! I've packed away the T-shirts I was wearing last month and got my
cords out again.
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It was 20-21C here yesterday, 14-15C today. >:(
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The Met Office says rain in NW London, the east will remain dry probably :(
Just
been out chasing the squirrel around the garden with a broomstick
handle - the squirrel has been at the fat feeder again and pulled it off
the hook on the tree. Hasn't managed to destroy that one yet. I'm
getting closer with the broomstick though!
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I'm very glad your party was good - I'm glad the weather cooperated!
Good morning all - hope you and yours are well - :D
Kathy W.
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It's been chucking it down all day here - love it! ;D
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From 5 AM to an hour ago it was a deluge out there, then the
clouds just vanished and the sun came out. We haven't seen the sun
in Seattle in so long that I didn't recognize it at first, but the 11
degree temperature jump helped me figure it out.
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They predicted rain for today, but apart from the ten drops or so we had, it's just been very windy and dry.
We even have some very bad heath fires : over 500 ha (1 ha = 100m square) lost. For a little country that is a lot !
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The fires can be bad. We had some in April, now well doused, and
they leave a horrible mess to say nothing of the effects on the wildlife
-especially the ground nesting birds. Hope the fire brigade and
weather manage to control them.
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Hello Old Weather. Overcast and chilly this morning.
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SW 5-6 opq here, but Her Majesty the new queen has arrived. She
arrived by post in a small plastic cage with a group of 5 workers who's
job is to feed her from the sugar in the stopper of the cage.
We
have put her in to the hive. The bees are really grumpy because they
have been without a queen for so long and my wife got stung once, but
hopefully her hormones should start to quieten them down.
We
leave her there for a week in her cage for the bees to get used to her
smell, then take the tape off to let the hive bees eat the rest of the
sugar stopper to let her out.
More finger crossing.
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Good luck with HM, Keith. Sounds like a tricky business.
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Thanks Caro. I passed on your wishes of good luck with HM to my wife
who is feeling a little sore at present from the sting.
Her response was " We shouldnt need luck with her. Its the 30000 other b...... in there we are worried about."
We do appreciate your good wishes. Thanks again.
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Its the 30000 other b...... in there we are worried about.
It's not showing up properly. Should it read "bees" or "buzzers"?
Hope it works out well.
I'm ignorant on the treatment of bee stings. I do offer sympathy but have reservations as to its anaesthetic properties.
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The actual word used was remarkable close to buzzers!!!
The correct treatment for bee stings is bicarbonate. Bicarb for bees, Vinegar for Vasps.
Carol says that the sympathy is helping. Thanks Bunts.
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The correct treatment for bee stings is bicarbonate. Bicarb for bees, Vinegar for Vasps
Inwaluable information.
Communicated to household queen.
Now part of family lore.
Thanks.
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Glad it's going well with your bees!
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Good morning OW. Waiting for bee news Chez Tegwen. ;D
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Hi Caro.
Just to prevent you and all of OW biting your
nails, we wont open up the hive again until Saturday next, then only to
take off the tape. We should then leave her at least two weeks to emerge
and start laying before we open again.
I will keep you informed.
Thanks ever so much for worrying, it is very kind.
All the best
K
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I am just gobsmacked that bees get sent through the post!
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I am just gobsmacked that bees get sent through the post!
Airmail?
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Or Special Bee-livery?
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They arrived in a simple padded envelope, from Hook Norton,
Oxfordshire, with a red sign saying "care live bees" and they were
recorded, guaranteed delivery, but it surprised us too. We were
expecting a box or something.
More surprising we learned that this particular queen was raised in Greece, although she is from proven Buckfast genetics.
Lets just hope she is is getting that hive under control.
K
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Or Special Bee-livery?
Wish I'd thought of that. :'(
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she is from proven Buckfast genetics.
Lets just hope she is is getting that hive under control.
Buckfast ???
You could be in for a rowdy time. And the bee-line could show signs of zig-zagging.
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The bees were originally selected at the same abbey that the Tonic Wine comes from.
I have never tasted the wine, but the bees are supposed to be the best.
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The bees were originally selected at the same abbey that the Tonic Wine comes from.
I have never tasted the wine, but the bees are supposed to be the best.
Now, if only we knew someone from Scotland to vouch for the effects of Buckie ... ;)
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yes, lets hope the queen can get them all to bee-have
Kathy
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A good Memorial Day (US) to all of you. Chicago did a fine
remembrance for our vets on Saturday - the parade included all the
schools' JROTC units, more than 160 of them. Some small, some just
marching, some with bands. Plus all the politicians and
things. And PBS did a fine concert for our military, current and
vets, last night.
So today is for picnics and fun. And
summer came into Chicago, literally overnight - it does that when we
have a long cold spring. Yesterday was 2 to 3 inches of rain and
high in the 50s. Today is a beautiful bc sky with a high around
90, and highs in the 80s predicted for the foreseeable future. I'm
going out to enjoy it. :)
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Hope you enjoyed your good weather, Janet. Here it is classic
Bank Holiday weather - grey and drizzling and chilly! So no
temptation to go and do anything outside; ideal transcribing weather
... :D
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Good morning. Another sunny, warm day coming up in this part of the world. :D
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Morning OW and Caro. Bright and sunny here too :) (would prefer some more rain though)
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I've got some, Geoff. You're welcome to it. U-Haul.
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Morning Deej, I'll swap you - your rain for my grey squirrels!
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Morning all! I'd love some rain too, it's another sunny, blue sky day in London.
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Morning all,
and same over here in Belgium ! :D
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Thanks, Geoff, but I'm afraid my poor dog has been tormented by
the half dozen squirrels in our yard already. He thinks he's big
and bad (when really he's just big), and you hear him out there
sometimes issuing threats, but they just run very near him and then bolt
up into the trees. I think it's really messing with his little
mind. Tell ya what, a barrel of rain for a keg of beer.
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Hello OW. Same again. Sun sun sun. :D
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Exactly the same - weeds, weeds, weeds
Have a nice day
lgb
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Also tweet tweet tweet: blue tits, great tits, robins, finches, black birds.... ;)
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Morning OW. Also have plenty of birds in the garden but have had to
remove the seed feeder as the @?$%^ squirrel keeps pulling it down and
emptying it. I'm expecting delivery of a squirrel-proof seed feeder
today so will see how that works. I have thought of getting a large
rat-trap!
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Hi Geoff. We've found that the only squirrel-proof (so far) feeders are those globe shaped ones.
They have to be positioned fairly high up on a long thin wire. ::)
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Hi Caro
I do have a globe-shaped feeder but the squirrel
hangs on the top and sucks seeds through the holes or knocks it to the
ground and empties it.
Maybe I can attach a long wire to the branch on the tree and hang it from that - will give it a try.
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Hi Caro
I
do have a globe-shaped feeder but the squirrel hangs on the top and
sucks seeds through the holes or knocks it to the ground and empties it.
Maybe I can attach a long wire to the branch on the tree and hang it from that - will give it a try.
You know Geoff that nothing succeeds like a budgerigar
lgb
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I will pretend that I didn't see that. :P ;)
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ok - that one needs a explanation - ???
good morning all -
Kathy
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When I had a couple of air rifles, we didn't have squirrels.
Now I no longer have the weapons, we have acquired a (grey) squirrel. How did it know of my unilateral disarmament?
Life is so unfair. :(
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ok - that one needs a explanation
Originally, it was:
"Nothing succeeds like a toothless budgerigar."
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we have a squirrel known affectionately as CA (Crazy A@@) - this
squirrel eviscerated the cushions for our lawn chairs; used said
stuffing for a nest on our roof (not under or under any cover); chased
off some sort of raptor that lives in the woods near our house (for
those familiar with the area, the woods are the Washington Grove
woods); drives our cats crazy by coming right up to the back door;
and yells at us every time we go outside.
this squirrel is just crazy ;D
Kathy
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wha?
Kathy
(I know that a budgerigar is a type of bird, often kept as a pet, but I'm sure there is more to this - is it sarcasm?)
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My favourite saying (at present) courtesy of www.rockradio.co.uk is:
"If, at first, you do succeed; try not to look astonished."
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wha?
Kathy
(I know that a budgerigar is a type of bird, often kept as a pet, but I'm sure there is more to this - is it sarcasm?)
No, just a misunderstanding joke/pun. If birds don't have teeth, they have to suck seeds.
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Thanks for the explanation ;D
I don't think the toothless budgerigar saying is going to catch on over on this side of the pond :P
Kathy
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Hi Geoff. We've found that the only squirrel-proof (so far) feeders are those globe shaped ones.
They have to be positioned fairly high up on a long thin wire. ::)
We had a supposedly squirrel proof feeder, but came home one day to find he had pried the top up and had crawled completely inside, feasting away. You might consider a squirrel spinner. Check out the pop out video below:
http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=NocRG3r2zBw&vq=medium
http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=FgDa_cpgHWs&vq=medium#t=45
I get a bit queasy just watching them turn; am amazed that they hold on as long as they do.
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My brother has the only working bird-feeder in his neighborhood -
everything everyone else gets their feeders eaten clean by the
squirrels. They are nothing but opportunistic thieves!
First,
he ran a guide wire (very thin) from his porch to the lower fence
railing, with something in the middle to keep it from sliding all the
way down to the fence. He says, it has to be angled up
from the squirrels on the fence, they jump very efficiently across and
down, but very poorly up. then he let it hang there, 6 to 10 feet
from any structure. He had a pull cord attached, so he could pull
it in and fill it from the porch. He also used the pictured type
of squirrel-defenders on the top and bottom of the feeder that were seen
in our video.
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Morning OW. Love the squirrel spinner ;D
My new
squirrel-proof feeder arrived - it has a metal jacket that slides down
and blocks the feed holes when the squirrel's weight rests on the
jacket. Haven't seen the squirrel attempt it yet!
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Good morning OW.
Geoff, I just took this pic of our 'successful' bird feeder. So far, so good. :D
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Hi Caro, that looks good and will also keep the pigeons out!
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Any bird bigger than a finch would have difficulty getting in. ;D
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My bird feeder setup:
(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2365/5796580516_8b49646944_b.jpg)
The
feeder on the left is the new squirrel-proof feeder (still to be
tested). Allegedly the squirrel's weight will pull the metal cover down
over the feeder holes.
In the middle is my peanut feeder which is squirrel and pigeon proof.
And on the right is my dome feeder which is pigeon proof and hopefully now squirrel proof as well.
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;D A fine collection there Geoff.
Good morning Randi, good morning OW.
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Hi Caro, Hi OW
Rt here
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Good afternoon one and all -
Kathy W.
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Hi Kathy. Quite a lot of r here this afternoon. Geoff will be pleased.
Reply no 1000! Well done chatterboxes. ;D
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We have had some r also. Alas, we are going into full summer
temps/humidity this week - we had miserable weather - 90s (F) and high
humidity - this made it feel like it was in the 100s (F) and the same
coming up towards the end of this week. YUCK!
Kathy
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Finally some proper rain :) Had light rain for 4 or 5 hours and the garden has all it needs now.
I walked around Greenwich Park today and it was looking very brown - this rain should restore the grass to its proper colour.
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Good morning Randi and 20 guests. :D
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Hello again OW. Google has a brilliant animation this morning. :D
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Hello again OW. Google has a brilliant animation this morning. :D
Thank you, just what I need, something else to waste time on. It is good though
Good morning
lgb
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oh my word! Between this site and now Google, I will not get any work done today!!
:P ;D
Good morning all - it is as hot as the 7th circle here -
Kathy W.
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What temp did it hit, Kathy?
It only got to 69
degrees here, but my poorly insulated house makes that feel like
85. It's 9:27 PM and it's still too warm in here.
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Good morning Geoff, good morning all.
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Morning Caro and OW, nice sunny day outside, will check on the ducklings later :)
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We just had an adult fox in the garden.
It must have jumped a 6 ft fence to get in. Blimey.
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The official temp for the area was 101 (F) - but it felt hotter
because of the humidity. I went out on the back deck about 7:30pm
last night and I literally gasped with my first breath -
today however, we do have a cooling trend beginning - it is supposed to only hit 91 (F) ;D
Kathy W.
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Yep, Kathy, 101F is hot.
It's a mighty 13C (55F I think) here. :P :D
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Morning OW. Could only find one duckling on the pond yesterday so looks like the heron has been visiting :(
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Morning OWers - found three more ducklings late yesterday, must have been hiding under the decking to escape the heron.
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Morning all
Good news about the ducklings ! ;D
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Just checking in briefly from the Library's public computers.
My computer is currently in the shop, waiting for its new fan to
arrive. I must say I really miss this place.
JJ
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Just
checking in briefly from the Library's public computers. My
computer is currently in the shop, waiting for its new fan to
arrive. I must say I really miss this place.
JJ
How long has it been broken?
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Ah, this evil technology:)
It's a miracle that it all still want to work. :D
Although sometimes not ...
A bad fan bad, very bad nasty ungrateful :)
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They are replacing the water pipes on our street today, so there is
no water all day. I can't wash dishes or laundry, I can't cook or
clean. Of course there are some disadvantages too ;D
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Good morning OW - it has actually be quite pleasant here in the Mid-Atlantic region of the USA.
I indulged my other passion last night - we went to see the extended version of Lord of the Rings, The Fellowship of the Ring in a theater. We own the extended versions of all of them (as well as almost all of Tolkien's books, including Farmer Giles of Ham and The Father Christmas Letters), but it was simply amazing to see it again on the big screen. Next week is The Two Towers, and then the next week will be Return of the King.
Kathy W.
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Clouding over here in Devon, so not looking promising for the lunar eclipse later. :(
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Just to say, my computer is back from the shop with a nice, new, quiet fan. So I'm back here at the OW forum. :)
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Welcome back!
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It's great to have you back!
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This time the reason defeated matter.
Super sail away. :D
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Hello OW. ;D
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Just to say, my computer is back from the shop with a nice, new, quiet fan. So I'm back here at the OW forum. :)
You have innumerable fans in OW, some more noisy than others. Bet the apartment looks spick and span
lgb
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Thanks, everyone, for the appreciation. :) Welcome back, Caro!
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Good morning Lgb and Randi; good morning all. :D
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Good morning all
Bright and sunny here, watch out weeds, which today will be more of an obsession than OW
lgb
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Please send sunshine down here!
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Morning OW. Just been out on snail patrol, all my marigolds are dead or dying from snail predation :(
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Hey Geoff
I have the same problem! Today I am going to buy some terrible poison, and I will fight with worms.
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To catch and kill snails (and slugs) put out a dish of beer. It
works - at least on a small scale. (I tried wine once, but that had no
effect.)
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Randi does not know how you do it, but I think you read minds. Shock! ::) :o ::)
For me it is an invasion of snails, of course, naked !!! slugs ;D
A beer for me! But maybe they will try to get drunk! ;)
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I bet you used a pilsner, when everyone knows snails prefer a stout and slugs love lagers.
;D
Hope
all the dads had a nice day yesterday - my husband loves trains, so we
rode the East Broad Top - the oldest continually operating narrow gauge
steam line east of the Rockies -
actually, hope everyone had a good day yesterday -
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;D
I believe that in general snails have shells and slugs do not have shells.
Feel to correct this if I am being too simplistic.
I used the cheapest beer I could find!
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Well, I've put some beer (Adnam's Bitter) in a saucer next to the
remaining marigolds. Will report on any casualties tomorrow :)
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If this really works I'd like to order 5,000,000 kegs for the
greater Seattle area, please. And quickly before they devour us
all.
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So...DJ....are you perhaps a baseball fan????
I ask, because
my Nats are playing that team from Seattle and I think maybe, if you are
a fan, a little trash talking might be called for. ;D
:P
yours -
Kathy W.
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Good morning Old Weather and the mighty (so I'm told) Seattle Mariners. :D
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Morning OW. I'm a Detroit Tigers fan myself ;D
Nothing
to report from my snail beer-trap, but no signs of snail damage this
morning so maybe I finished them all off on my last snail patrol.
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Morning OW. I'm a Detroit Tigers fan myself ;D
Nothing
to report from my snail beer-trap, but no signs of snail damage this
morning so maybe I finished them all off on my last snail patrol.
I've
generally had good luck, but I don't suppose any method is 100%. I
usually use something a little deeper than a saucer, but I don't know if
really makes a difference.
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I think that beer traps need to be deep enough for the slugs etc to
be attracted by the beer and then be unable to climb out again. I guess
they would just find a saucer full a good opportunity for a quick
tipple. Also using Adnams seems a waste of good beer!
Another
good attractant is an upturned half grapefruit, with the flesh removed.
They hide under there and can be despatched in the morning.
When
I first started gardening on this patch I had horrendous problems and
used to go out with a torch & scissors each damp night &
regularly get over 200 in a night. Now they are not so numerous and
there are more predators about so I rarely lose plants to them. A couple
of really fierce winters has helped.
If you must use pellets,
please use Iron Phosphate based ones rather than metaldehyde. Hedgehogs
can be severely affected and even killed by eating slugs etc that have
eaten metaldehyde.
Hope this helps.
K
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Now I've been told (not sure how reliably) that big slugs and snails
produce pheromones that keep little slugs and snails tiny. If you
kill the big ones, the pheromone level drops and the little ones grow
into big ones. So if that is correct, it is pretty much a waste of
time to get rid of them. I do not try to grow fruit and veg - I
would probably be a lot less tolerant of the little so-and-so's if I did
- I just try to grow things they don't like, so I have a garden full of
roses, hardy geraniums and nasturtiums. I have come to quite like
the little stripey snails that look like mint humbugs (possibly
exclusive to Devon, never saw any before I moved here). I just
don't understand why my lovely organic slug and snail filled garden
doesn't attract more hedgehogs!
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Now
I've been told (not sure how reliably) that big slugs and snails
produce pheromones that keep little slugs and snails tiny.
Mrs.
Bunts reckons it's the small, skinny slugs that do most of the
chomping. When I go out, late at night to serve breakfast for the
birdies (and, unintentionally, for an itinerant grey squirrel) there is
always at least one snail that eludes the torch light and dashes under
my descending boot. <Crunch>
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The best snail removal system that I know of is a resident song
thrush
(http://www.rspb.org.uk/wildlife/birdguide/name/s/songthrush/index.aspx).
:D
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The
best snail removal system that I know of is a resident song thrush
(http://www.rspb.org.uk/wildlife/birdguide/name/s/songthrush/index.aspx).
:D
French chefs are also very good - lgb
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I was going to recommend a very good bottle of tequila and some great guacamole myself ;D
Kathy W.
(Once
in Monterrey, Mexico, I had tequila worms as an appetizer - they had no
taste as they were completely pickled in the tequila - but the guac was
great!)
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Good morning Old Weather. Thunderstorms on the way today.
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Morning OW. Hope the storms hold off until I'm safely ensconced in the Greenwich Union (today is my pub lunch day).
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Good morning all -
How goes the Great Snail and Slug Hunt?!
Went
to see The Two Towers last night - right at one of the dramatic high
points - poof - the screen goes dark - we had a severe thunderstorm and
the theater lost its power - the lights flickered at home, but no power
outage (we checked). As my daughters put it "The nerd herd" was
none to pleased. After about 20 minutes, power back and movie
continued. I think if I were not myself, I would happily be one of
the Rohirrim or a Klingon.
Hope everyone has a good day -
Kathy W.
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Afternoon all - just returned from the Greenwich Union :)
I've been drinking Grog! (or rather a few sips - it's rather strong)
(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5026/5859755701_c4c52bca95_z.jpg)
As
far as the snail hunt goes - no news, my saucer of beer remains empty
of snails. Maybe the snails in this area are 'lager louts' and I should
use lager instead of bitter? ;D
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;D ;D
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Fantastic. ;D :D Sit down with friends party until morning ....
dream
:)
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11.5%? :o Try some of that on the snails.
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I bet you used a pilsner, when everyone knows snails prefer a stout and slugs love lagers.
words to live by my friend -
;D
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Good morning Randi, good morning guests. :D
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Afternoon all -
My hubby is having a treat today - he is on a
Liberty Ship (one of the last remaining ones) and is sailing out of
Baltimore out into the Chesapeake Bay - they are supposed to attacked by
WWII Era planes. I asked me to go, but honestly, I got queasy
just thinking about it - both the Mantua and the Venus had been having
rough weather when he got the ticket. ;D I could feel
the ship rolling and pitching beneath my feet. :P
Kathy
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Kathy
You are on the Mantua? She has been a "lonely
ship" for so long - I hope you enjoy your voyage! I grew very fond
of her in our time together. :)
Su
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yes - I wanted to get my numbers up, and the Mantua seemed just the
ship to do that - 24 readings a day :o - I go between the Venus
and the Mantua.
I really feel for the crew of the Mantua - the
last time I checked in on her, there was yet another storm - really, is
that all the weather there is in the North Sea? - and there were
notations all day long about how the ship was rolling or pitching
severely because of the waves. It really has put me off ship
travel for the time being. ;D
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Hello, shipmates.
My eyes go wonky trying to deal with 24 on a sheet.
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24 on a sheet is nothing. I've known 48 when the log keeper was terminally bored.
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24 is the most I've seen, and that made my eyes cross. 48? Yikes.
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yes
- I wanted to get my numbers up, and the Mantua seemed just the ship to
do that - 24 readings a day :o - I go between the Venus and the
Mantua.
I really feel for the crew of the Mantua - the last time
I checked in on her, there was yet another storm - really, is that all
the weather there is in the North Sea? - and there were notations all
day long about how the ship was rolling or pitching severely because of
the waves. It really has put me off ship travel for the time
being. ;D
The
North Sea certainly has a reputation for rough weather - I think all
those ships on the Atlantic Patrol had quite a tough time!
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Rough is a small word for the North sea. The Germans say: Nord See,
Mord See. Witch means North Sea, Murdering Sea for the large number of
seamen who lost their lives there. Storms are mainly from september to
april and the worst at equinox high tides.
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Good morning Old Weather.
Lovely sunny day ahead here, allegedly.
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Morning OW. Warm here already and very sunny.
Squirrel has been busy trying to get something out of my squirrel-proof feeders (and failing!).
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Hi Geoff. A young squirrel got inside one of our globe feeders the other day
and then found he was trapped. He finally managed to get out the same way he got in.
He hasn't been back. :D
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I don't know whether you will be envious or sympathetic but it has
been raining here all day and it has been dull and cool as well. When
the weather people talk about the 'heat wave' I feel like throwing
things.
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I am a terrible man, but I killed all the slugs. :'(
But what satisfaction .... ;D
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Poor little things. They tried to run. You just couldn't tell.
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This brought Old Weather to mind when I saw it yesterday - ;D
(http://www.cartoonistgroup.com/properties/speedbump/art_images/cg4dfed63e714bd.jpg)
DJ - I too did not expect the sweep and whew, I didn't think we would get the series from the Sox :o
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Hey, you two! I may be a total non-fan about sports, but I am
loyal to Chicago and both our teams are tanking this year.
:'(
I'm glad for your team, Kathy. :)
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Be glad you're not a baseball fan, Janet. Living in the city of Cubbies and Sox could be heartbreaking on a yearly basis.
Kathy:
I was impressed with the Nationals this last week. They're really
playing like they aren't anyone's doormat. Imagine what it would
be like if Strassberg hadn't blown up his arm.
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I know - I'm looking forward to when Strassberg and Bryce Harper come up -
I am a late comer to baseball - there was basically just football where I grew up - that show, Friday Night Lights
reminds me so much of my high school years. The whole town would
come to games. I am pleased with how the Nats are doing - Goodness
knows, Washington needs it - The Caps can't carry this city all by
themselves forever - I also enjoy soccer - Go DC United.
I, however, will never root for the Stinking Redskins...
Go 'Boys!
(I don't what I'll do if there is no football this fall :'( I have to occupy myself here ;D )
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Good morning Old Weather. Another warm and humid day here.
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Sunny, which makes a change, and cool, which doesn't, up here. Need
to cut the grass which grows on despite the low temperatures.
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Hello all.
Have just dropped in from extended shore
leave to find out how Raven II is doing. I'm sorry to have been
out of touch for weeks - no internet! and even sorrier that I shall be
away again until August. But I'm delighted to see that the crew
(thank you) have been picking up the slack.
I have found that a glass of cool white wine temporarily alleviates internet withdrawal symptoms. Okay, two glasses.
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I, however, will never root for the Stinking Redskins...
Go 'Boys!
(I don't what I'll do if there is no football this fall :'( I have to occupy myself here ;D )
I've
been worrying about the CBA, too. I really look forward to
football season, especially since discovering NFL Network Red
Zone. That takes the viewing experience to a whole new
level.
You won't root for the Skins?! Why!?
Just because they shoot themselves in the feet at least twice per drive,
and half the players don't seem to want to play (Haynesworth is just
the most vocal about his lack of interest), and the quarterback
situation is bad, and the owner is possibly the worst in the NFL, and...
Okay, I get it. I wouldn't root for them, either. The days of Theissman and Riggins are long past.
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BORN IN DALLAS
My parents had season tickets in 1960 - If I
were to root for the Redskins, the ghosts of my ancestors would haunt me
till the end of my days.
(NOTE: As my husband will tell
you, there are games where I am forced by circumstances beyond my
control to want the Redskins to win - for example, when they are playing
Philly and divisional standings are on the line, e.g., I need Philly to
lose so that Dallas can be #1 in the division, but these are horrible,
gut wrenching affairs and the least said about them, the better.
My husband, is of course, a Redskins fan.)
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HERETIC!!!
He DOES understand why you must loath him every Sunday, right?
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I know - especially since he is FROM NEW YORK CITY!!! (Well, Long
Island to be exact) I don't know whats worse - Stinkin Redskins or
Stinkin Giants -
:o
Kathy W.
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Good morning Old Weather. Hi Geoff. :D
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Morning OW and Caro, been busy on HMS Odin.
Nice morning here, cool and sunny.
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Morning OW
Cool and sunny he !
What about cool, overcast and rainy :P :D
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Cool and sunny again. Good morning OW.
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Sunny start to day, garden dry, too warm to iron while the strike is hot
lgb
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It's a lovely day to strike - I'm planning to sit in my pyjamas all day and catch up with my transcribing! ;D
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Sunny but cool up here, some transcribing will be done but grass in
urgent needed of attention. By the way, while I was on holiday I missed
any news of the bees - how are they doing?
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Thanks for asking Studentforever. To be honest I am not sure. I
tried to inspect the hive we put the new queen in a couple of weeks ago
and they were really angry. I got stung a couple of times through my
suit and gloves, so I whimped out & left them to it.
My
wife was away then which is why it was down to me. She is now back so
we will try again soon, with thicker gloves, more smoke etc and I will
let you know.
The other hives seem OK, but they are due for inspection now.
Again I will keep you updated.
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My dad began keeping bees when I was about 10 or so. The first
time we extracted honey, not knowing what to expect, my dad had only a
few jars in which to collect it. He suspended the extraction
operation when he (soon) realized that he would need a lot more
jars. One of my happy childhood memories is hand-cranking the huge
extractor that whirled the frames.
How many hives do you keep?
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As I sit here twisting uncomfortably while reading that, being
allergic to bee stings. Right through the suit and gloves. I
didn't even think that was possible.
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I didnt think it was possible either. I am still learning about bees!!!
The
gloves are thin rubber ones, which normally they dont sting through,
but these managed it and on my wrist which was covered by the suit and
the glove. They really are very aggressive. We may have to wait
until the old ones die off and the new offspring of the new queen take
over, before we can properly inspect that hive. We will give it another
go, probably this weekend, wearing thicker gloves.
I dont have an anaphylactic reaction, but I do swell up well over the next few days.
The
plan Carolyn is to keep two hives through each winter. At present we
have four due to hived swarms, which is too many for our garden, so we
will have to look at combining some. That will be really fun if they are
as grumpy as the ones we requeened.
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Right. That settles it.
I shall stick to my wife's marmalade. "No one was hurt and no insects died during the making of this product."
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As
I sit here twisting uncomfortably while reading that, being allergic to
bee stings. Right through the suit and gloves. I didn't
even think that was possible.
Same here, only I'm not allergic to them, but have a big irrational fear to them. :-[
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I think being allergic is an entirely rational reason for fearing them!
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Heavens, I thought that keeping bees was such a soothing hobby! I've
always rather liked them and never thought of them as particularly
aggressive, unlike wasps. I do hope they settle down with their new
queen and your other hives are OK.
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The thing that fascinates me is their range. Working with nice quiet
bees is such a pleasure. A couple fly up when you open the hive, but
the rest just carry on with what they were doing while you check each
frame etc. That is such a fascinating process that it is worth all the
problems. There is a really gentle quiet buzzing sound which is
positively relaxing.
However opening a hive when a large number
fly straight out and start flying hard at your veil, gathering on your
suit and stinging is not a very pleasant experience and is enough to put
anyone off. As soon as one stings, even if that sting doesnt get
through the suit it upsets the rest because it contains pheromones which
stimulate the others to sting. When they are in that mood their buzzing
is totally different and really threatening. They tend to follow you
buzzing angrily as you leave the hive and you have to ensure there are
none still on the suit or flying around before going indoors. A very
frightening process.
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Good morning OW. Another cool, sunny morning. ;D
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Morning OW and Caro, same cool sunny weather here. No evidence of
snails in the garden this morning so maybe my marigolds will recover!
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The snails have just about destroyed our hosta. >:(
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Sorry about your hosta Caro :(
Have you searched the
garden for places where the snails may be hiding? I did a clear out
yesterday and found a refuge I'd built for hedgehogs under a bush had
been taken over by snails so disposed of quite a few and there were no
new snail trails this morning.
Hope you manage to clear them out!
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Good morning all -
Caro - I wish there was some way for me to get you some of my hosta - we have an overabundance of the stuff!
I
got a laptop yesterday and I made sure to get one with a side number
pad ;D, something I would not have thought of, had it not been for
my addiction to Old Weather ;D (Thanks Su for thinking of that
need)
Hope everyone has a great day -
Kathy W.
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Thanks for the offer Kathy. :D
I think we need to follow Geoff's advice and have a clear out of the jungle.
There are too many places for the snail army to hide.
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Morning OW, nice bright day again and no snails! Wish it was that easy to get rid of the pigeons :D
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Good morning Geoff, good morning all.
Wood pigeons? We have plenty of those.
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Morning Caro. Mostly feral pigeons that roost above my window and
coat it with you know what. Don't mind the wood pigeons as they roost in
the trees.
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I would swap you Geoff. The wood pigeons round here can devastate
crops in the veg patch. Already lost some chard this year.
I need some "Hands to small arms practice" from the bathroom window.
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...you have to ensure there are none still on the suit or flying around before going indoors. A very frightening process.
I
don't keep bees, but the other day when i opened the door a massive
wasp came inside. It then got lost and started banging into walls etc
before deciding to angrily harass my dog and cat. After about 30 minutes
it flew back out the door it came in.
(I watched all this from outside through a window, only venturing inside to evacuate the pets)
Oh and the pigeons we have here are awesome, they have mohawks and RED eyes.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/7/78/Male_Crested_Pigeon.JPG/627px-Male_Crested_Pigeon.JPG
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/7/78/Male_Crested_Pigeon.JPG/627px-Male_Crested_Pigeon.JPG)
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Update on the bees.
Carol and I plucked up courage and put on sweaters, suits, gloves etc and went to do a full inspection of all the hives.
Two
that we thought might have swarms in didnt, which means that we dont
have as many as we thought we had. However one swarm hive did have a
happily laying queen and brood and stores, so they are OK. That means we
can rehouse them into one of the empty full size hives and hopefully
they will grow to produce a strong enough colony to keep through the
winter.
But the best news is that we did a full inspection of
the hive we requeened that gave us all of the trouble (and stings). They
are fine, so much quieter than they were. Masses of brood and stores
and they look really strong and healthy. The new queen is obviously
laying well and she is having such a good effect on them, the change is
incredible. No stings got through and there were very few angry bees. We
are so relieved, a real result. There is even a faint chance of a
little honey off them if we have some decent weather, but that would be
an unexpected bonus.
Double grog ration and celebratory salutes all round.
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Hurrah! Three cheers for the bees!
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"The new queen is obviously laying well and she is having such a good effect on them"
Or as some say here in the states, "When mama's happy, everyone is happy."
:D
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Good news! Thanks for the update.
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Good morning OW. Well done bees!
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Morning OW. Good news about the bees :) I've wondered about
keeping bees but my garden is much too small so will wait until I move.
Been doing some exercise this morning - chasing the squirrel round the garden with a broomstick handle ;D
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Been doing some exercise this morning - chasing the squirrel round the garden with a broomstick handle ;D
Did you catch it?
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Been doing some exercise this morning - chasing the squirrel round the garden with a broomstick handle ;D
Did you catch it?
No!
It's too quick for me. I almost had it the other day and missed it by
inches. It keeps digging holes in my plant containers and trying to get
into the peanut feeder (it's destroyed three previous ones).
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Independence Day greetings to our US friends and good morning to all. ;D
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Thanks, Caro - and a happy 4th to all OW Americans!
(https://www.t-mobilepictures.com/myalbum/photos/photo32/f4/7b/f67a5c9db3f9__1309761063000.jpg)
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Happy Independence Day to all on the other side of the pond!
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Good morning Geoff, good morning guests. :D
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Morning OW and Caro. My garden is still snail-free :)
Anyone
interested in a picnic in Greenwich Park on 31st July see RAS Picnic
(http://www.galaxyzooforum.org/index.php?topic=279280.0)
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Good morning all -
I'm glad the invading hordes seem to be still held in check
I'm glad the bees are doing well
And lest we forget, July 1st was Canada Day, so I hope all who celebrate that day had a very nice one -
Kathy W.
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There was a bee on my bus home tonight - would the poor thing be able to find its way home after an hour long bus ride?
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I am afraid the answer is probably not.
Beekeepers if they
want to move a hive reckon that three miles is the limit. ie if a hive
is moved less than three miles away the bees will find their way back to
the original place, even if the hive is no longer there. Over that
distance they refix to the new position.
I am not sure how far a London bus travels in 20 mins, but hopefully for the human passengers more than 3 miles.
Sorry bee!!
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Further to my last I have just done some rootling to find references
for the information above and that may not be the whole story.
http://www.beesource.com/point-of-view/joe-traynor/how-far-do-bees-fly-one-mile-two-seven-and-why/
This
seems to indicate that experiments in Wyoming showed that bees can
forage and return for up to 7 miles. If that is the only source of
nectar the colony loses weight as they expend more energy getting there
and back than they can bring back, but they manage it.
They must
therefore have the ability to navigate at least 7 miles, so depending
upon the speed of your bus, your little chap may have had a chance to
make it home again.
The conclusion of the article linked above to the question, how far do bees forage, is as far as they have to!!
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Well, I hope he made it!
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TV programme tonight:
"Monster Moves series 5
A team of
experts tows a decommissioned submarine-rescue vessel 1,600 miles before
conducting a controlled sinking in the waters off the Cayman Islands.
After
being decommissioned in 1994 following nearly 50 years of service, the
USS Kittiwake, a Chanticleer-class submarine rescue vehicle, was moored
in Virginia?s James River as part of the reserve fleet. But its final
resting place is to be somewhere more exotic ? the crystal clear waters
of the Caribbean Sea.
Officials from the Cayman Islands struck a deal
to have the Kittwake delivered to a spot just off their shores, where
they hope it will become an artificial reef, attracting fish and
tourists. But moving nearly 2,000 tons of ship across 1,600 miles of
water takes some doing..."
About half of it interesting. Possibly available UK only but may be available on a TV near you.
http://www.channel5.com/shows/monster-moves-5/episodes/episode-1-343
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Definitely not available to watch in the states, which is a
shame. I've seen one PBS documentary on another ship sunk for a
reef - I forget its name, but what had to be done to strip out every
possibly toxic item from a ship that large and then towing it and then
actually making it sink proved to be a very complicated thing. I
did find some YouTube videos of it:
http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=fUcUXSmN5W4&feature=player_embedded
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Good morning Old Weather. Cloudy and cool today.
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Definitely
not available to watch in the states, which is a shame. I've seen
one PBS documentary on another ship sunk for a reef - I forget its
name, but what had to be done to strip out every possibly toxic item
from a ship that large and then towing it and then actually making it
sink proved to be a very complicated thing. I did find some
YouTube videos of it:
http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=fUcUXSmN5W4&feature=player_embedded
That's the one. Ta.
Of
particular interest to me was the footage of two tugs; one towing as
would a breakdown truck but the other attached stern to stern with the
Kittiwake for best steering effect.
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Good morning Randi and Cyzaki, good morning all.
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Urgh, er, yeah, uh, good morning to you too.
(It's a long
story... Dad had a fall night before last. Actually, for age 86, he came
through it remarkably well, but lots of time in the emergency ward and
little sleep.)
Nice to get back to a little sanity. Hopefully I can get back to my ship a bit later today.
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Hope your Dad continues to make progress. If your local health
people have a falls prevention programme do encourage him to make use of
it because falls can have a big impact on older people. Glad you are
back on board.
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Best wishes for your Dad, Randi.
They can be a real worry, but it is worse when they are gone.
K
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Randi, I hope you and your dad feel better after a good rest.
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Thanks to all of you!
Fortunately, we have some very helpful friends and neighbors.
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Morning all -
is there a code for steamy ;D or
jungle-like? ;D - we will be having our summer usual - hot,
steamy, and generally unpleasant -
Randi - I hope your Dad continues to improve.
I
agree with Tegwen - I'm 50, my Dad has been deceased for 18 years, and
there are still times when I miss him very much - :(
Kathy W.
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code for steamy = xxx ;)
Randi, all the best for you and your dad.
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;D ;D ;D ;D
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Good night all, and thanks for your support.
Morning all -
is
there a code for steamy ;D or jungle-like? ;D - we will be
having our summer usual - hot, steamy, and generally unpleasant -
Randi - I hope your Dad continues to improve.
I
agree with Tegwen - I'm 50, my Dad has been deceased for 18 years, and
there are still times when I miss him very much - :(
Kathy W.
That
is much too young to lose a parent. I'm 56 and I lost my mother 5 years
ago. I suppose I was luckier than many, but that doesn't make me miss
her any less - we were as much best friends as mother and daughter.
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The worst part - outside of the fact that he was only in his mid 50s
and he and my mom had started planning their retirement together, and
the Cowboys won the Super Bowl that season (he was a passionate Cowboys
fan) was that my oldest daughter was born exactly 2 months after
he died. He never got to meet my sister's husband or any of his
grandchildren and they never go to meet him. Sometimes, life
sucks...but you do have to go on. I'm sorry you lost your mom so
soon.
Kathy W.
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Good morning Old Weather. Heavy rain down here Geoff! :D
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Randi, we are about the same age and I lost my mum about 5 years ago
too, but it was losing Dad in February this year that was hardest for
me.
Good luck with yours.
K
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Good morning all.
Dad is sore and has some very impressive bruises, but he is doing pretty well.
Thank you Tegwen. My sympathies to you. That must still be very painful.
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Morning OW, lovely sunny day so far. Just been on snail patrol and
none found so looks like I disposed of all of them :)
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Good morning OW, good morning Geoff. I suspect all your snails headed south to my garden.
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Bright morning up here. I tried putting out an advert for resident
thrush and hedgehog but so far no takers despite my offer of near
unlimited slugs and snails.
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Good morning all -
so far so good with the weather here today
- we have been having thunderstorms and heavy rain every day it seems.
Or, just plain old xxx ;D
hope everyone is doing well -
glad to here Geoff has dealt with the vexing slug problem - I'm sure all
others will soon have theirs in hand.
Kathy
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Last year I collected a LARGE bowlful of little white snails from
off my plants, but then I couldn't figure out what to do with them. So,
finally, I went to the end of my driveway, waited till there were no
cars, and then dumped them out in the middle of the street. HA!
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Bright
morning up here. I tried putting out an advert for resident thrush and
hedgehog but so far no takers despite my offer of near unlimited slugs
and snails.
Yes,
I've tried that. Didn't work for me either. I think the
problem may be that while I favour a "nature bearly under control" look
to my garden, my neighbours all go for a neatly manicured style, so
there are not too many thrushes or hedgehogs around. I did find a
drowned snail in the stray cats' water dispenser today (Yuck!) even
though it is surrounded by gritty stuff that's supposed to keep slugs
and snails away.
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Yes, my neighbours are all keener on gardening than I (am). I'm
currently wondering whether to turn my front grass patches (more moss
really) into flower meadows. My excuse would be eco-gardening but the
attraction is really the thought of only cutting a couple of times each
year! The back grass will continue to be cut though - it's nicer for the
deck chair and I don't get my feet so wet when hanging out the washing
after a shower.
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When we tried cultivating a nature garden (ie letting everything
grow wild because we can't be bothered to garden), the residents
committee on our street got a bit angry about it :(
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I garden for fruit and veg and for wildlife.
My most exciting event of the year is just starting.
We have emperor dragonflies emerging from the pond. A truely incredible process to watch and photograph.
K
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Good morning all. ;D
Our jungle is a home to bumble bees,
butterflies, ladybirds, slugs and snails, as well as being a very
popular restaurant for the bird population
(and marauding squirrels).
I would like to see your pics of the dragonflies Keith.
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Thanks so much for asking Caro.
I have been wondering about putting up a few of my dragonfly photos using Google/Picasa.
This has spurred me to do so.
https://picasaweb.google.com/106503478225185533670/TegwenSDragonflies?authkey=Gv1sRgCMma1aPyt9L-tAE
This is a link to my album, with just a few of them.
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Fantastic pics! Thanks very much Keith.
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Thanks Caro, you wouldnt believe how many I took to get those 5 good ones!!!
K
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Lovely photos. One advantage of digi cameras is that you can shoot
off lots of duds at minimal cost to get the good ones you want to
keep. They are lovely dragonflies, you can see why they called
them 'emperor'. My wildlife gardening is less ambitious, I'm afraid and
also inhibited by neighbourhood cats and dogs. Still, it gives me
somewhere to enjoy the occasional nice afternoon and dry my washing.
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Thanks Studentforever. Indeed digital photography has improved both
my end result and my technique immensely because I can try different
things and reject the failures at no cost.
The emperors were a completely accidental but most welcome by product of making a new pond, which I did mainly for newts.
In total we have had 6 or 7 species of dragonfly around the pond. They are such fantastic creatures.
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Of all the flying insects, I think dragonflies are the most elegant. Very nice pics.
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One of life's lessons learned from experience: you cannot continue driving with a dragonfly in your car - you need to stop immediately to let it out! ;D
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Yeah, sometimes I almost forget to slow down first.
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Morning OW, nice bright day outside :)
Just been watching the first episode of the US version of "The Killing", very good but does it ever stop raining in Seattle?
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Good morning OW, good morning Geoff.
I think the answer to the Seattle question is: not often. Ask DJ. ;D
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I am an American, living in France, watching a British sport ;D
The Snooker World Cup is taking place in Thailand and currently Poland is beating Hong Kong!
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I am an American, living in France, watching a British sport ;D
Oh, well.
One out of three isn't bad. ;D
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I am an American, living in France, watching a British sport ;D
Ever tried cricket?
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Good morning all -
Keith - great pictures - I hope you were
sitting on something and not just crouched down in the grass - makes my
knees hurt just thinking about that ;D
Randi - how is your dad doing?
Isn't snooker a form of pool? is it the version with bumpers on the table?
We have been watching the women's World Cup - very exciting!
hope everyone has (or because of time zones ;D had) a good day -
Oh, Caro- are you living in Australia? I thought you were living in England ???
ta -
(Chatty) Kathy
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Thanks for the comment about the pictures.
I did have to spend quite a lot of time either kneeling or lying on the grass around the pond to get those photos.
I have a low seat by the pond to sit on when not actually at the camera, so it is not too painful.
The
emergence is a really long slow process and takes most of a morning
from the larva emerging to the dragonfly flying off so there is scope to
go and come back. I havent actually been up early enough to see the
larva climbing the stem or the back splitting yet.
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Obviously almost as much patience as skill is required to get such
lovely photos. I hope you will be able to enjoy looking at the
results for many years and will share some more of them with us.
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Oh, Caro- are you living in Australia? I thought you were living in England ???
(Chatty) Kathy
I have lived in the UK for many years but I was born and grew up in Oz. :D
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Oh, Caro- are you living in Australia? I thought you were living in England ???
(Chatty) Kathy
I have lived in the UK for many years but I was born and grew up in Oz. :D
Explains the wizardry.
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I was thinking YOU were the wizard :P
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I was thinking YOU were the wizard :P
It's spelt "WIZENED".
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:D Just dropped into say Hi, and Happy 4th Birthday to Galaxyzoo! ;)
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Nice to hear from you again, Elizabeth! :)
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"Isn't snooker a form of pool? is it the version with bumpers on the table?"
I thought someone would pick this up, but they havent so it falls to me.
Snooker
is a game like pool where a white cue ball is hit onto other balls and
points are scored by hitting balls into pockets, but it is done on a
full sized table.
There are 15 red balls scoring one and a series of colours scoring from 2 to 7. There are no "bumpers".
http://www.worldsnooker.com/page/Home
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snooker
Hope this helps, and that I havent just fallen into a cunningly laid trap.
K
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Morning OW, cool outside, still snail-free in the garden!
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Good morning Geoff. Cool and windy here.
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And what do you think of Power Snooker?
I personally do not correspond to this type of snooker, but the TV likes to speed.
Power Snooker strongly promotes Ronald Antonio O'Sullivan,
But I prefer when the Ron playing snooker classic
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Afternoon OW !
Lots of guests at the moment (19 ! ) :o
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no, you were not snookered into an explanation ;D - Randi did
send me a link for a snooker organization, but I couldn't find an
explanation of what snooker is - so thanks for the info :D
I have never watched Torchwood, but that actress in the picture, River?, was on ER for many years.
Good morning all!
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Good morning Old Weather. Anybody in the UK 161 million pounds richer this morning? ;D
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Morning OW and Caro - not me, I'm still a poor OAP :)
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161 !
Woow Well, Saturday Night Fever or Gold Fever!
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:o
http://news.yahoo.com/truck-spills-14-million-bees-idaho-highway-142147287.html
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Poor Bees.
I like some of the comments posted below the article. In particular, "At least BeeP werent responsible for this spill!"
K
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Ouch.
;D
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how typical - just had the back of the house and deck power washed
and now we are having a massive thunderstorm - like washing the
car ;D :P
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Murphy's Law ! ;D ;D
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My dad had the ability to make it rain by just saying he was
thinking of mowing the lawn. He would have been 80 at the
beginning of this month, so I've been thinking of him a lot lately.
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Good morning Old Weather. ;D
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Morning Caro. Weather here nice and sunny but showers and rain forecast for weekend.
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Same here. We have a forecast of heavy rain and 16C for Saturday. >:( ;)
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Morning OW, nice and cool here.
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Good evening, OW. A beautiful day in Chicago, Wly 2 b 76F by the lakeshore. :)
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Hello old Weather. Gloomy, rainy morning here.
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Morning OW, damp here as well, good for my garden :)
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It was quite bright when I got up but someone up there has just
turned the tap on, the sudden chill factor is significant. Oh well, it
doesn't usually last long so it shouldn't be too bad when I go up to the
shops.
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Chicago is cloudy and warm today - supposed to clear up some, with temp in the high 80s (31 C) and winds staying 1 to 3.
Wind is important, because today is the start of the Race to Mackinac
(http://www.cycracetomackinac.com/). At 333 miles (289.4 nautical
miles), the Race to Mackinac is the oldest annual freshwater distance
race in the world. "The Mac" starts at the Chicago Lighthouse, just off
Navy Pier and continues to Mackinac Island.
More than 300 sail
boats are racing, in all sizes. A century ago they started it
between anyone that could sail, and it is still wide open. Each
Division and Class (determined by size and speed) will have its own
winner. The fast professional race boats usually make it in about
45 hours. The little slow boats take more like 80-odd hours.
Just thought some of the sailors here might be interested. I'm thinking of going down to Navy Pier to watch the parade. :)
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That sounds fun in most winds, but more like hard work on a Northerly or Northeasterly wind!!!
K
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Which is why the timing is very different from year to year.
;D Weather and winds are NOT predictable long-term. What is
in their favor is, the prevailing winds are westerly, and this time of
year southern heat gives us southerly winds more often than not.
Canadian cold descending from the north is our winter specialty.
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Chicago is cloudy and warm today - supposed to clear up some, with temp in the high 80s (31 C) and winds staying 1 to 3.
Wind is important, because today is the start of the Race to Mackinac
(http://www.cycracetomackinac.com/). At 333 miles (289.4 nautical
miles), the Race to Mackinac is the oldest annual freshwater distance
race in the world. "The Mac" starts at the Chicago Lighthouse, just off
Navy Pier and continues to Mackinac Island.
More than 300 sail
boats are racing, in all sizes. A century ago they started it
between anyone that could sail, and it is still wide open. Each
Division and Class (determined by size and speed) will have its own
winner. The fast professional race boats usually make it in about
45 hours. The little slow boats take more like 80-odd hours.
Just thought some of the sailors here might be interested. I'm thinking of going down to Navy Pier to watch the parade. :)
I've
been to Macinac Island. Nice place, but so small there are no cars in
the town, and the graduating class has only a few people.
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The whole island is a vacation place. My brother went there
last year, and told me about it. Very quiet. That's how the
race started, a century ago. Some men put their families aboard
the big ferry to go up there, and then started debating that they could
sail their own boats up and beat the ferry to Mackinac. They did.
:)
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There was some talk about our getting some new ships added in to
this phase of the project - do we know when that is likely to
happen? I find myself footloose and fancy-free, and seeking a new
long-term relationship. I need to look in on Sapphire, Macedonia
and Raven in the meantime, but I'm just wondering what the new kids on
the block might be like and whether I should wait for them to come along
before making a major commitment to another ship. :-\
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There
was some talk about our getting some new ships added in to this phase
of the project - do we know when that is likely to happen? I find
myself footloose and fancy-free, and seeking a new long-term
relationship. I need to look in on Sapphire, Macedonia and Raven
in the meantime, but I'm just wondering what the new kids on the block
might be like and whether I should wait for them to come along before
making a major commitment to another ship. :-\
I
THINK we are getting new ships after these are completed (which I am
estimating to be from mid-september to late october). If I'm right, then
I suppose it's not worth the wait. Also, I don't think the science team
is releasing any information just yet; it's still too early.
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My understanding is that there is a phase 2 of the project and we
don't get to start that until we've finished off this first phase.
But there was also mention of 30 or so ships that were going to be part
of this first phase - I shall probably be told I can't have a nice new
ship until I've finished all the ships I've already started ::)
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Having been awarded grant money for Phase 2 is known. Until
the funds are received and logbooks actually scanned, I wouldn't take
any other statements as set in concrete. ::)
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Good morning Old Weather. Gloomy Monday.
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Morning OW and Caro, dull and gloomy here as well! Testing out a new
bird feeder today, trying to keep ahead of the squirrels and the
pigeons :D
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I love the Royal Navy. 11am on the 11th of November, 1918, marked in
the log of HM Yacht "Warrior" by the memorable and deeply touching
entry "Hands engaged in painting deck houses."
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;D
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I
love the Royal Navy. 11am on the 11th of November, 1918, marked in the
log of HM Yacht "Warrior" by the memorable and deeply touching entry
"Hands engaged in painting deck houses."
HMS Ribble was at Gibraltar (or was it Malta?) and there was no mention of the significance of the date.
HMS
Naneric was in the Western Approaches on 11.11.18. Again no reference
to the date and the only difference was a note that all navigation
lights were kept burning.
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Good morning Old Weather. Misty, damp... :P
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Brighter here with possibility of some sunny periods - must cut grass!!
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Thunder and rain - but at least cooler than last week.
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Heat wave in progress here. Lake Michigan is keeping us cooler
than the rest of the center of the country, but low to mid 90s (32 to
36C) still feels hot. Lots of sun, interupted by times of very unstable cloudy skies.
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Morning OW, bright morning so far but supposed to rain later - hopefully once I'm safely ensconced in the pub!
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Ah. It must be Wednesday. :D Good morning Geoff, good morning all.
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Afternoon OW! Just returned from a long lunch in the Water Poet -
the Met Office promised to rain us in at lunch time but no rain at
all :(
I post this picture from the pub which will undoubtably raise some comments from our more stalwart members:
(http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6145/5958133270_9d61bffc36_z.jpg)
A picture from the Gent's rest room (lovely tiles);
(http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6122/5957571805_c039a412f3_z.jpg)
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;D ;D
Is this in Greenwich ?
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;D ;D
Is this in Greenwich ?
It's the Water Poet pub near Spitalfields Market, down the road from Liverpool Street station.
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;D ;D
Is this in Greenwich ?
It's the Water Poet pub near Spitalfields Market, down the road from Liverpool Street station.
Ooh, that was one of my regular watering holes during my previous life as a fat cat banker!
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A lovely watering hole! Quiet garden bar at the back, good beer and good food.
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I too used to work not far from there in a previous existence. I
started my work in breweries at the Truman Brewery in Brick Lane. Dont
remember that pub though.
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Good morning Old Weather.
The Water Poet looks like an interesting pub. ;D
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I've just spotted a reference to HMS Whiting which (along with
recent references to Porpoise, Walrus, Carpenter, and the snail menace)
set off a chain of thought:
"Will you walk a little faster?"
Said a whiting to a snail,
"There's a porpoise close behind us ... "
that led me to a story from English comedian, Lee Mack.
There was a snail who wanted to travel faster, so he took off his shell. It did no good, he was just more sluggish.
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According to the BBC World Service, some of the Eastern US states
are experiencing temperatures of 43C. I've encountered 37C and didn't
enjoy it. I offer my sympathy.
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I have not sweated this much since high school band practice in
Louisiana in August - my cousin and her daughter are in town (thus
the playing tourist bit) and we walked from the Smithsonian metro stop
to the Air & Space Museum, a distance of maybe 1/2 or less miles,
and my clothes were drenched. It is just not the heat, but also
the high levels of humidity. I am not going to Arlington Cemetery
tomorrow as originally planned - I will go, probably in September.
(We are going on vacation in August.)
bleh - I hate to sweat!
Kathy W.
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Be sure to hydrate and replace all that water - I've found that
drenching my head and going with a wet scalp is amazingly cooling.
It's been suggested using an old sheep to make yourself a head turbin
of sorts, and soak it before putting it on.
This is not good sightseeing-outside weather at all.
You
do realize that the arrival of the worst of the heat in your
neighborhood means it is moving out of mine. I'm personally glad
to see it go, they say tomorrow we'll be running 10 degrees cooler,
around 90F.
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Be
sure to hydrate and replace all that water - I've found that drenching
my head and going with a wet scalp is amazingly cooling. It's been
suggested using an old sheep to make yourself a head turbin of sorts,
and soak it before putting it on.
As long as the sheep doesn't complain ;D
Morning OW, bright and sunny morning here :)
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Hi Geoff. Same here.
Um, Janet .... ;D
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OK - sheet not sheep.
So I can't type when I'm tired and hot! :-[
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I imagine there are not many elephants
(http://www.upi.com/Science_News/2011/07/15/Bees-keep-elephants-from-raiding-crops/UPI-66001310763305/)
chez Tegwen.
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Some Pig! (But not Charlotte's)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tirpitz_(pig)
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Interesting to find out how these crews found some comic relief. :)
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Some Pig! (But not Charlotte's)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tirpitz_(pig)
The ')' is not included in your link - but it works fine if I add it onto the address. ;)
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I
imagine there are not many elephants
(http://www.upi.com/Science_News/2011/07/15/Bees-keep-elephants-from-raiding-crops/UPI-66001310763305/)
chez Tegwen.
Thanks Bunts, Indeed our garden has never been raided by elephants, so the bees are working well!!
K
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Some Pig! (But not Charlotte's)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tirpitz_(pig)
The ')' is not included in your link - but it works fine if I add it onto the address. ;)
Thank you, Ma'am, for the curly tail.
Hope you thought it was worth the effort. :)
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Just riding by on my elephant and thought I'd say hello, maties.
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Looks like the sailors on Colne were sports fans!
1:00pm "Gave leave to Football party" and "to party to attend Boxing contest"
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ADM53-38213/ADM%2053-38213-005_0.jpg
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If this belongs somewhere else feel free to move it. ;)
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Just thought I'd mention, for those in the UK, there's a programme
on BBC2 tonight at 9pm "The First World War from Above" - might be
interesting.
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Looks like the sailors on Colne were sports fans!
1:00pm "Gave leave to Football party" and "to party to attend Boxing contest"
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If this belongs somewhere else feel free to move it. ;)
Normally these are placed in the "Worse Things Happen At Sea" thread. Very Interesting, though! :)
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;D Just popped in to say Hi All and check out the dockside gallery really 8) pictures there.
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An article of interest -
http://start.toshiba.com/news/read.php?id=18710380&ps=1011&srce=news_class&action=2&lang=en&_LT=UNLC_USNWU00L2_UNEWS
Kathy W.
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Thanks for posting that Kathy. Those hives are remarkable. They use a
slightly different system to us so it is not clear how many of the
layers are "supers" where the bees store the honey and how many are
brood chambers, but there seem to be at least 4 supers. We have never
had more than two on ours. This year, with all the problems, we have one
hive with no supers at all and one with one, but we probably wont take
any honey from them.
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;D Just popped in to say Hi All and check out the dockside gallery really 8) pictures there.
Hi, Elizabeth, glad to hear from you again. :)
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Normally these are placed in the "Worse Things Happen At Sea" thread. Very Interesting, though! :)
Thanks Tastiger, I will remember that for next time :)
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I'm back! Didja miss me?
...did you notice I was gone?
:-\
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As a matter of fact, when I saw your name I thought "Gee, I haven't seen her for awhile"
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As a matter of fact, when I saw your name I thought "Gee, I haven't seen her for awhile"
Aaaaw! You noticed! ;D
I
was in France on an activity week with 76 12-year-old boys. I'm now
covered in scrapes and bruises, and completely exhausted, but it was
great fun!
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I'm back! Didja miss me?
...did you notice I was gone?
:-\
I thought you were just avoiding the maths question that I set:
http://forum.oldweather.org/index.php?topic=1863.msg23245#msg23245 (post #2)
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I'm back! Didja miss me?
...did you notice I was gone?
:-\
Yeah, I thought you'd swanned off for the entire school holidays!
Welcome back!
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I'm back! Didja miss me?
...did you notice I was gone?
:-\
Yeah, I thought you'd swanned off for the entire school holidays!
Welcome back!
I'm back briefly - I'll be swanning off again at the weekend!
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Swanning is British rather than American, but even so, I don't think herding 76 12-year-old boys qualifies as swanning. ;D
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You mean you weren't tempted to break an arm with your wing?
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I
was in France on an activity week with 76 12-year-old boys. I'm now
covered in scrapes and bruises, and completely exhausted, but it was
great fun!
Yeah, I thought you'd swanned off for the entire school holidays!
Welcome back!
Herding
76 boys not only doesnt sound like "swanning" (as us Americans
understand it), it doesn't sound like a vacation! Fun, but
definitely work!
Welcome back!
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Not something I'd want to deal with.
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Good morning Old Weather. Je suis retourn? aussi. ;D
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Good to see you back.
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I
was in France on an activity week with 76 12-year-old boys. I'm now
covered in scrapes and bruises, and completely exhausted, but it was
great fun!
Yeah, I thought you'd swanned off for the entire school holidays!
Welcome back!
Herding
76 boys not only doesnt sound like "swanning" (as us Americans
understand it), it doesn't sound like a vacation! Fun, but
definitely work!
Welcome back!
Yup
- definitely fun, but most definitely work! I'm still recovering, and
not just from the scrapes and bruises I got on the assault course!
;D
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I would rather try to herd our collective cats than 76 12 year old boys - I am in awe of you!
Morning all -
Kathy
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Steady, Girl,
I bet she had some help.
And when I was 12, I was perfectly well behaved; the model for the rest of my life.
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I did have help - there were 7 other teachers, plus all the staff at
the centre. I couldn't cope with 76 12-year-old boys on my own!
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Nine and a half each, eh?
Whereabouts in France? I didn't read about the CRS being deployed recently.
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ah, Bunts -
so you still behave like a 12 year old? ;D
I really, really want to meet Mrs. Bunts now!
Kathy W.
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You said it! ;D
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ah, Bunts -
so you still behave like a 12 year old? ;D
You hadn't noticed?
I really, really want to meet Mrs. Bunts now!
Kathy W.
Masochist.
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Good morning Old Weather. Another lovely warm day ahead. 8)
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Nine and a half each, eh?
Whereabouts in France? I didn't read about the CRS being deployed recently.
We were in Normandy, and we went on a day trip to see the Bayeaux tapestry and the British war cemetry which was amazing.
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Sounds like the same tour my daughter took several moons ago. Staying in a chateau, with a swimming pool?
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Sounds like the same tour my daughter took several moons ago. Staying in a chateau, with a swimming pool?
Staying in a chateau, but no swimming pool.
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No loss. I believe the water was freezing.
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Good morning all. :D
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Morning OW and Caro, another hot day coming up :( I'll
be seeking refuge in the Greenwich Union later for lunch :)
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Is it Wednesday already?! ;D
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True and well loved friends -
I wish to bid you adieu. I
am off to the hinder lands of New York and I know not what awaits me
there. The clime is said to be rainy these next few days, so I am
concerned about the mental well being of those around me. I am
bringing my communication device - I hope to join you at some point
during the week.
Take care of each other - Bunts, please try to stay out of trouble.
Farewell,
Kathy W.
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That sounds a bit drastic. :o
You are planning on coming back aren't you????? :'(
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Kathy W,
I had noticed that your presence was not so all
pervasive as I would wish but, in the holiday season, I wasn't worried. I
am now.
Whatever you are up to, please take care.
:-*
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Hope to hear from you soon Kathy. :'( ;)
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Woo hoo ;D I am not cut off from the world! (thanks to my
husband's smart phone) I check in on ya'll from time to
time. We are going to the Thousand Islands region of New York,
where it is expected to rain for several days. I hope you don't
wind up reading about us in the paper. ;D
Ta
Kathy
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I never heard that name for a region before, but it looks to be very
pretty on the map. At least, that's true of every other place
I've seen where one of the Great Lakes empties into someplace
else. Lots of water, rocks and trees usually, and not much in the
way of cities to mess it up.
Are you going to be doing any canoeing or boating? Maintaining customs at the border there might be interesting. ;D
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Thousand Islands?! Suddenly I have this confusing vision
of Kathy and her husband taking a leisurely stroll through a giant salad
bar.
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Good morning OW. :D
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Thousand
Islands?! Suddenly I have this confusing vision of Kathy and her
husband taking a leisurely stroll through a giant salad bar.
I
had always thought Thousand Island dressing originated from somewhere
exotic like the South Pacific - now I'm beginning to have some doubts
about this!
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:'(
I,..I'll wait ....Kathy
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My husband says that the dressing is from this region. The Waldorfs found a local recipe and took it back to New York.
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Hi all- hope evertone is doing ok We took a boat cruise around
the islands - there are actually almost 2000 of them ;D The
region is quite beautiful, and it rained all day today. Off to
Canada tomorrow
Ta-
Kathy
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Kathy,
Glad to hear you're still afloat.
Good luck in Canada. You know the seasons there:
Winter; Still Winter; Mend the Roads; Winter again.
Have fun.
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The glory of being in a boat during "mend the roads" season! ;D
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Happy weekend Old Weather. ;D
It's a bit o.d. here.
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Same here but the met office promises 'bc' for this afternoon so I'll go to the supermarket this morning.
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well, I'm back - we had a great trip. One of the highlights
was a trip to Fort Henry, in Kingston, Ontario, Canada. I almost
died laughing (not out loud) when the docent there was talking about the
fort and I realized it was built to keep US out! ;D Anyway,
we went to the Sunset Ceremony which was very interesting - a drum and
fife close order drill team, a firing demonstration and a cannon firing
demo, and finally a battle simulation - which while enjoyable,
made me rather nervous (see above ;D)
I'm glad to be back - I have to tend to the Mantua and the Thistle :P
ta -
Kathy
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Welcome back Kathy. :D
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Not much chat going on in here! Good morning OW, good morning Randi.
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Good morning Caro, good morning everyone!
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Morning OW, a nice cool morning here :)
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Morning all -
Right now it is a pleasant var/bc/2-3/?/72/-/-
;D
This state of affairs, of course, will not last long -
Kathy W.
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Chicago is also beautiful today, and I also never expect anything
but change. We are Lt.airs bc low80s. I'm planning on taking
an afternoon walk down to the lakefront. ;D
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Hiya Geoff, hello OW. :D
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Morning OW and Caro. Suffering with gout today - going to take me longer to walk to the pub for lunch :D
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Morning everyone -
too early to tell what the day will be
like ;D - my husband, who usually feeds the critters in the
morning is off on work travel and they had the never to demand breakfast
from ME at their normal time. ;D
I think I'll be taking a nap later on today... :P
Kathy
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Morning OW, bright day outside, will be out and about a bit later.
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Good morning Geoff. Nice sunny morning here too.
Might go to the beach. :o
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Morning all -
was rousted by cat seeking belly rub :P
Caro - Brighton? ;D
I really shouldn't be here as Old Weather is not very sleep inducing! ;D
Kathy W.
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Worthing. ;)
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Morning all -
was rousted by cat seeking belly rub :P
Kathy W.
Me next.
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Worthing. ;)
Steer clear of any unattended handbags.
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Ack... I went over a thousand posts and didn't even notice! No balloons or streamers or anything! :'(
;D
Kathy W.
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Well done Kathy. ;D How's this?
(http://www.free-animated-gifs.com/albums/animatedgif/Luftballon/luftballon_16.gif)
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Ack... I went over a thousand posts and didn't even notice! No balloons or streamers or anything! :'(
;D
Kathy W.
We,
who reserve our comments for matters of significance, didn't mention it
- thinking you'd consider it criticism for being a chatterbox. :P
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;D ;D
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And I also missed my last milestone - didn't even look at it until I saw your post.
I think this qualifies as an addiction! ;D
Ack... I went over a thousand posts and didn't even notice! No balloons or streamers or anything! :'(
;D
Kathy W.
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The first step is admitting you have a problem. The second step is more Old Weather.
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Hair of the dog that bit me? ;D
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Good morning OW. Bit damp around here this morning! :D
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oh my word - we just had an earthquake!!!
the whole house shook - it was a 5.8 - I have never felt one before!
Kathy W.
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:-\ UUUuu A strong shock no fun.
... I watch the news on TV. 2 airports including JFK closed. The strength of shocks sixth.
Hold on ...
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Hope you're all OK on the East Coast. Do let us know.
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Eeek! Hope you are all OK over there!
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My family is all ok - there seems to be only minimal damage - but it
was the wildest thing. ;D I thought it was my drier out of
balance, and then the shaking and rumbling got louder and
stronger. We have a model of the starship Enterprise, and I just
watched it shake right off its shelf - that was the extent of my damage -
I don't know about CHommel, who lives down the street from me -
Kathy
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Glad you're OK; and I hope it's a one off, as I'm due to be arriving at JFK on Wednesday of next week ....
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Saw the quake on the news - hope everyone is OK!
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My
family is all ok - there seems to be only minimal damage - but it was
the wildest thing. ;D I thought it was my drier out of
balance, and then the shaking and rumbling got louder and
stronger. We have a model of the starship Enterprise, and I just
watched it shake right off its shelf - that was the extent of my damage -
I don't know about CHommel, who lives down the street from me -
Kathy
That
must have been a terrible, nerve wracking, gut wrenching experience;
one from which I should never recover - which Enterprise is/was it?
Glad you're OK.
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I'm glad you are fine, Kathy. And I'm hoping the same for
CHommel. I hear some things, including the National Cathedral, are
cracked, and some buildings came down in Virginia, so I'm glad you had
it easier.
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Thanks, Janet. We made it through fine. I was driving in
a fairly rural part of our county and did not feel a thing. I was
listening to National Public Radio at the time, and the show's host,
Kojo Nnamdi, commented that their building jolted, and later said it had
been an earthquake.
C.
PS--now I have earthquake envy... ;D
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Thanks,
Janet. We made it through fine. I was driving in a fairly
rural part of our county and did not feel a thing. I was listening
to National Public Radio at the time, and the show's host, Kojo Nnamdi,
commented that their building jolted, and later said it had been an
earthquake.
C.
PS--now I have earthquake envy... ;D
Be careful what you wish for.
We've
had a couple - minor in nature. One was early morning, when Miss Bunts
was about 8 months old. She was sitting up on the parental bed trying to
engage a drowsy me in conversation. Her mother had gone to the bathroom
from where came a shout of alarm. (She claimed a couple of minutes
later that she had almost fallen off the lavatory.) The mattress bounced
up and down a few times to Miss B's evident enjoyment, as she clapped
her hands with a "Do it again!" expression on her face.
The second
was about 7 years ago, after midnight, when I was sitting in the same
spot as now. There was a rumbling, seemingly outside to my right. It
grew louder, then there was, seemingly, a "ripple" running from right to
left across the floor. A couple of glasses clinked together in a
cupboard.
That was it.
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Thanks,
Janet. We made it through fine. I was driving in a fairly
rural part of our county and did not feel a thing. I was listening
to National Public Radio at the time, and the show's host, Kojo Nnamdi,
commented that their building jolted, and later said it had been an
earthquake.
C.
PS--now I have earthquake envy... ;D
I did hear from CNN that they expect there to be aftershocks for a few months.
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I did hear from CNN that they expect there to be aftershocks for a few months.
That's the sort of information that makes me worry for California.
Kathy's
earthquake was 2,000 odd miles to the east, and the earlier ones in
Japan and New Zealand were somewhat more than that to the west, and the
latter at a very different latitude as were those in Alaska, Chile and
Sweden. It seems like California is surrounded.
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Not Sweden, but Japan, New Zealand, Alaska, Chile and California are
all part of the Ring of Fire and at the same risks - all of the plates
that are trying to make the Pacific Ocean or the surrounding land
smaller. They all move, creating quakes and/or volcanoes. I strongly
prefer lands where such land movement is rare and less spectacular,
such as the Midwest or east coast. California is actually NOT
trying to dive into the Pacific, it's trying to move north towards
Alaska. The discovery in the last decade is previously unknown
blind faults directly under Los Angeles'
(http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2003/04/0403_030403_earthquake.html)
tallest skyscrapers. I really do not want to live there. (So call me chicken. ::) )
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It is the Enterprise from the most recent movie - the one with Chris
Pine, Karl Urban, etc - it is the case for the movie. It was just
like a scene in a movie - just jiggled right off the shelf. My
husband's building was closed and it took him 2 hours to get home -
usually a 1 hour trip - the metro was running trains at 15 miles /hour
until the tracks were checked.
Kathy W.
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This is the immediate damage report
(http://www.bellinghamherald.com/2011/08/23/2153158/earthquake-closes-damages-washington.html),
regarding the national monuments - just what has been determined in the
first 12 hours.
- Washington Monument: Evacuated, closed indefinitely. Cracks found at top.
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Washington National Cathedral: Damage to three of the four pinnacles
atop the main tower, and visible cracks in the church's structure.
Building closed to visitors. (From their site, some flying
buttresses cracked and maybe the vaulted ceiling.)
- Smithsonian
museums: Closed Tuesday, being inspected for damage. Minor cracks,
broken glass reported at 1857 Smithsonian Castle.
- U.S. Capitol,
White House, Old Executive Office Building, Treasury building, Lincoln
Memorial, Jefferson Memorial, Old Post Office tower, MLK Memorial:
Evacuated, closed, reopened after several hours. No damage.
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Good morning OW.
Glad to hear there was no major damage or injury.
Thanks for checking in, Kathy and Carolyn. ;)
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Morning OW, damp and dull at the moment but supposed to get brighter
later. There is supposed to be another tall ship (the Gloria) parked at
Canary Wharf so will take a walk up there later and see if it's still
there.
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Hello, mateys. Glad all our east coasters are well. Those things can be pretty scary.
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I've just been looking at the Naval History website - the "Old
Weather Royal Navy logbooks" section seems to have been revamped.
It is now in two sections "Acacia to Hyacinth" and "Implacable to
Yarmouth" and looks like there are some additional ships. Does
this mean Phase 2 of the project is imminent - should I start browsing
for new ships now? (I suppose the answer to that has to be "No" as
I have not yet finished all my ships for Phase 1 - it's OK, I'll just
smack my own wrist!)
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I've
just been looking at the Naval History website - the "Old Weather Royal
Navy logbooks" section seems to have been revamped. It is now in
two sections "Acacia to Hyacinth" and "Implacable to Yarmouth" and looks
like there are some additional ships. Does this mean Phase 2 of
the project is imminent - should I start browsing for new ships
now? (I suppose the answer to that has to be "No" as I have not
yet finished all my ships for Phase 1 - it's OK, I'll just smack my own
wrist!)
I've
noticed that, but the number of ships on there have always been 280
(for some reason). I don't think they've added any ships yet.
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:) They are definitely coming sometime - this Twitter went up a month ago:
@oldweather
Old Weather New logbook images just delivered to @oldweather HQ...
19 Jul via Twitter for Mac
None
of them are on our Vessels list, which remains at 238. The
incomplete list we are still working on includes 88 ships - 150 ships
are complete. I'm also assuming the scanning process will take
some time.
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:) They are definitely coming sometime - this Twitter went up a month ago:
@oldweather
Old Weather New logbook images just delivered to @oldweather HQ...
19 Jul via Twitter for Mac
None
of them are on our Vessels list, which remains at 238. The
incomplete list we are still working on includes 88 ships - 150 ships
are complete. I'm also assuming the scanning process will take
some time.
Now I just wished that they'd tell us what ships we will be doing. ;D
The
280 refers to the number on Naval-history.net . And isn't the amount of
ships we do about 245ish (referring to Torch 1 and 2, Warrior 1 and 2,
Vindicitive 1 and 2, Persian Empire, etc.)?
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You are right about the 245ish.
The 280 ships on
Naval-History.net were the initial hopes before they found out how many
logs their funding would cover. I guess with the new ones coming
in, they are still hopeful.
The thought of how many pages have to
be scanned to average 2 to 3 years of logs for 280 ships (including
covers and instrumentation) is actually a bit scary, if you are the one
standing and putting all these big books on the scanner. (36 pages
times 12 months times 2.5 years times 280 ships??!!!)
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You are right about the 245ish.
The
280 ships on Naval-History.net were the initial hopes before they found
out how many logs their funding would cover. I guess with the new
ones coming in, they are still hopeful.
The thought of how many
pages have to be scanned to average 2 to 3 years of logs for 280 ships
(including covers and instrumentation) is actually a bit scary, if you
are the one standing and putting all these big books on the
scanner. (36 pages times 12 months times 2.5 years times 280
ships??!!!)
Actually,
it would really be 18 pages times 12 months times 2.5 years times 280
ships because scanned page takes up about two dates, then the scanned
page is split in half to make it one day per transcribing screen.
Oh, and if you're curious, that's about 151,200 pages.
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My arms and shoulders ache just imagining that much lifting!! This is not a quick job! ;D
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Actually,
it would really be 18 pages times 12 months times 2.5 years times 280
ships because scanned page takes up about two dates, then the scanned
page is split in half to make it one day per transcribing screen.
Oh, and if you're curious, that's about 151,200 pages.
I was going to check your maths but I've broken my pencil.
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Actually,
it would really be 18 pages times 12 months times 2.5 years times 280
ships because scanned page takes up about two dates, then the scanned
page is split in half to make it one day per transcribing screen.
Oh, and if you're curious, that's about 151,200 pages.
I was going to check your maths but I've broken my pencil.
Well,
there are other variables that would need to be accounted for like how
some ships have 1-month logs and others have 1-year logs, some ships
have 1 date on two pages, some have 2 dates on one page, some are
completely nonstandard and do their own thing (like HMS Wonganella)...
My number's really only an estimate, so no need to sharpen you pencil! ;D
I'd
imagine that they have more than one person to scan the pages; I think
ancestry.com does it all the time for their "Preserve Records or
Something" Project (the one that also encompasses the World Memory
Project).
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Good morning Geoff and Randi and everyone. ;D
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Morning OW and Caro. About to start my morning stint on Odin!
A bit damp here this morning. Hoping it clears up later so I can see the tall ship Gloria set off from Canary Wharf.
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Yep. It would nice to see her move out in the sunshine. Good luck. ;)
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Just had thunder here. Tegwen the dog hates it and is currently
hiding under my desk. She makes a good footwarmer, but she is trembling.
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Wish I knew which way that thunder was headed! It's been
forecast for Exeter too, but so far we have been lucky. One of my
cats has epilepsy and her episodes tend to be triggered by stress - and I
have had to come into work and leave her. At least I know she is
safely indoors at home. She only has partial seizures so hopefully
cannot come to any harm left unattended.
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Wish
I knew which way that thunder was headed! It's been forecast for
Exeter too, but so far we have been lucky. One of my cats has
epilepsy and her episodes tend to be triggered by stress - and I have
had to come into work and leave her. At least I know she is safely
indoors at home. She only has partial seizures so hopefully
cannot come to any harm left unattended.
I feel for you!
I hope you don't get any thunder, or at least not when you are not home!
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Hi Thursdaynext.
You can check rainfall approaching on this website. http://www.raintoday.co.uk/
For
Exeter it shows some fairly heavy stuff heading your way from the
North. There is no way to identify if it contains thunderstorms or not,
except that they are of course usually the darker ones.
Good luck for your cat. I hope she is OK. Tegwen has now recovered her normal self. We only had a few claps.
K
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Haven't seen that website before - fascinating. So far we have
escaped any thunder here, and my cat seems to be OK so far (just a bit
miffed about all the rain!)
Just wanted to wish everyone well on
the East Coast of the US - as if an earthquake wasn't enough to contend
with in one week! Take care in that hurricane tomorrow and stay
safe.
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I think we will lose our power - ;D
I live on the west
side of DC, so I don't think we'll see hurricane force winds - just
tropical storm force - this will give new meaning to the Beaufort Scale
to me!
Kathy
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My best wishes for the safety of you all on the East Coast.
Truly, what a week.
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You are having it rough over there. Good luck with what is to come.
K
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We live in interesting times ;D
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Are any of our east-coasters on low lying land, needing to
evacuate? Storms this bad are so rare in the DC-NYC area, I'm
worried. This is my idea of scary.
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Reports and pictures of hurricane damage are very sobering but seem
so much worse when you "know" someone who may be affected.
Fingers crossed.
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At least it moved over cooler water while still a category 2. I
just found a wonderful action map for see this - wind speeds are
indicated by color.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26295161/ns/weather/?GT1=43001
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Thinking of you all over there - stay safe.
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Chommel, how are you doing?
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Very well, thanks. I'm in Dickson City, PA, enroute to picking
up my kid from her summer camp job. They are predicting 6-12
inches of rain for this area tomorrow. Fortunately, we're not
driving back until Monday, so by then the storm should have moved
on. (I hope.)
My husband is still in MD, battening down our hatches. The size of this storm is most amazing!
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I'm glad you're away from the coast and the worst of it and will be
with your daughter, and sincerely hope the battening down works and your
husband also stays safe. This big a storm scares even those of us
who are a thousand miles away.
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I'm trying to figure out the force of the wind - right now, for me, a
2 or 3 - my sister lives in Simsbury, CT - they are supposed to get
dumped on - her husband's parents and siblings live on the Jersey shore -
they are going to get hit also -
maybe we will keep our power - a miracle!
Kathy W.
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I'm in a hotel room about 180 miles west of the Atlantic shore and
Miss Irene, yet the wind is howling out there, and the rain is coming
down heavily several counties to the west.
I cannot imagine what it must have been like to be in a hurricane while at sea.
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A miracle has occurred! We didn't loose our power -
;D a few flickers and that was it! there were.. some high
winds and we have some small branches down, but that is it for us.
I did all that laundry for nothing ;D
oh, well... it needed to be done. ;)
Kathy
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Great news Kathy - glad you've come through unscathed - and even with a whole heap of clean laundry to show for it!
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Glad to hear you're OK, Kathy. You must be very relieved that it is over.
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Me, too, Kathy, an over-prepared-for storm is much preferred to the opposite. Branches are easy to clean up.
CHommel, hope your home and all came through just as well. I'm glad you are on high ground.
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woo hoo - first day of school!
I hear an angel chorus ;D
Kathy W.
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woo hoo - first day of school!
I hear an angel chorus ;D
Kathy W.
When school starts for me, it will be more of a funeral march. :( Wisconsin doesn't start until Sept. 1st.
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First day of school is Monday for me. Boo :'(
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Good morning Randi and Sean, good morning all. :D
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Back home for the nonce, after a (thankfully) uneventful drive, with
piles of laundry to do. Thanks for all the good wishes.
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;D Hi, just dropped in to say HI Notice some great pics in the gallery ;)
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Nice to see you Liz. Morning OW.
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I have
been demobilized retired! ;D ;D ;D (with just a little :'( ) So, lots more time to spend on OW! ;D
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Congratulations Su (and some commiserations).
I'm glad to hear that spending more time on OW is part of your retirement plans. ;)
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Congrats, I think. use OW to maintain some old while having fun exploring new possibilities! :)
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explore strange new worlds,
seek out new life...
and new civilizations...
;D ;D
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thursdaynext,
Welcome to my world. No "Star Trek" on afternoon TV now; so no distractions at all.
Have fun.
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I'm oding on OW and Star Trek today ;D
Kathy W.
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Holiday weekends are good for that - nobody expects useful work! ;D
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Just saw the wildfires. Hope everyone is Texas is OK.
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Good morning Randi and LIZ! Good morning all. ;D
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Grog ration to return for OWWT? (Old Weather [Women Transcribers])
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-14806312
Not available to anyone at present, obviously, but something to look forward in a few decades time.
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Yep - but it is very comforting to get solid confirmation like that
to the US studies our TV news have put out to the public.
Women
need to drink less than men - we get drunk faster also, when we overdo
it. And while any alcohol works, red wine is best.
:)
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Hmm, I agree but red wine is very aging for the skin. Bubbly is
best. One delight of Spain is that we can buy terrific Cava at 2-3 euros
a bottle!
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Hmm,
I agree but red wine is very aging for the skin. Bubbly is best. One
delight of Spain is that we can buy terrific Cava at 2-3 euros a bottle!
I
thought they were suggesting drinking it, not rubbing it in; apart from
Harvey's, obviously. Speaking of "rubbing it in" I hope you are
enjoying your cava. Isn't that cheaper than bottled water?
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I remember reading about a similar study a few years ago, although
that one was looking at both men and women, and came to the same
conclusion. However their methodology was faulty as they had not
excluded teetotallers who did not drink because of a pre-existing
medical condition. Once they did so, the abstainers from alcohol
came out as the healthiest. So before we all get carried away, we
need a bit more information!
Sorry to rain on everybody's parade!
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I'm sooo excited! I didn't think this day would happen - ARE YOU READY FOR SOME FOOTBALL!
;D
Go Cowboys!
Kathy W.
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Astronomy Photographer of the Year 2011
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-14792580
It
takes around 6 minutes to view these photographs - I thought they were
wonderful. And those of you near Greenwich can see the exhibition
at the Royal Observatory.
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those are very nice - thanks for posting ;D
On a similar note, I saw an article about a supernova - and it can be seen as per below:
It
is expected to reach its peak sometime between September 9 and 12, when
it will become visible to stargazers using a good pair of binoculars or
small telescope.
It will appear, blueish-white, just above and to the left of the last two stars in the Big Dipper handle.
I'm going to try to see it - if this darn rain moves on! ;D
Kathy
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regarding the rain, I've been worrying about you and others in the
east - how did the remains of Leigh affect you? No one deserves 2
tropical storms in 2 weeks!
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I'm lucky - I live on a small rise, so the water runs away from my
house - I don't know about CHommel - there was some standing water in
the town I live in, but the flooding was mainly in southern Montgomery
County - Bethesda, Potomac, etc; DC, and parts of northern Virginia - I
almost fell over when parts of the Beltway (the interstate that
encircles DC) was closed because of flooding.
I did see
the sun today for the first time in 3 days- that may sound funny to
some, but we rarely get this many days of rain in a row - it is a shame
we could not get this stuff to Texas -
thanks for asking -
Kathy W.
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I am Glad that you did not have any further damage.
Now I am off to a wine festival with at 6 PM Calm b temperature 80 F (27 C)
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That sounds lovely, h. Have a great time.
Steamy, stormy, weird weather here. :D
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The met office has just issued an amber warning for Monday when the
remnants of hurricane Katia are supposed to give us heavy rain and high
winds. It was a bit less cool today. Where is the Indian summer
which some of the pundits promised us? Probably in the South East if it
arrives at all.
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North West England was pleasantly warm today, with sunny spells.
I've requested more of the same for tomorrow.
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I hope you make it thru ok, StudentForever -
we are finally having very pleasant weather -
fun fact - if the rain we just had was snow instead, we would have had 5 feet (plus a few inches) - ;D
Kathy W.
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Ouch! Even in our record breaking years, I've never experienced more
than 3 feet of snow in less than 2 weeks. That amount of rain is
crippling. I'm glad Leigh has gone away also, hopefully you will
get enough sun and wind to start to dry out.
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Thanks Caro. I Had a great time. Next wine festival will be in 2
weeks at Neuchatel. I expect it to be magnificent because it will be the
last day of the 1000 year festivities of the foundation of the city.
Today's
weather is the same as yesterday, warm and sunny. I wish I could send
some of it to all those who have all that bad weather :)
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Hello all! Hope you all have c weather today. ;D
It's a
different story in Wisconsin, though. There's currently a wildfire
burning in Minnesota, and all the smoke is blowing over the state, even
all the way to were I live (which is almost as far away as you can get
from Minnesota). It really stinks outside, and the clouds look really
weird to me. Hopes this clears up soon. >:(
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Sorry to disappoint you :'( :'( we had b and bc with 78F
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Yesterday was wet and stormy but the wind is dying down and, at
least locally, the rivers are full but no significant flooding. My
neighbour lost a plum tree (pity, it had lovely, sweet fruit and looked
gorgeous in the spring) but otherwise not much damage. Today is cold but
tomorrow should, according to the Met Office, be dry. Some areas
had more trouble, people on the coast lost their power and a lot of the
island ferries were cancelled.
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Sunday night we had two power cuts. On each occasion just seconds
after saving a page. It was a bit difficult to work out how many house
alarms went off, I could distinguish 8 different tones but there was a
lost of mush.
Mrs B slept through it because we're too poor to
afford an alarm. If we'd had one she'd probably have had a heart attack
just before she hit the ceiling ... if I'd remembered to set it.
;D
Yesterday I took a young friend for his driving test. Local
radio station was on, in the waiting room, listing roads closed by
fallen trees. The examiner avoided those. Pupil passed, maybe the trees
helped.
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Very strange weather in Chicago right now, due to the faint scent of
wood smoke everywhere. There is a wildfire burning more than
100,000 acres 450-plus miles northwest of Chicago in the
Minnesota-Canadian border waters. The wind blowing it directly to
us comes behind a cold front, and the rain on the leading edge did a
good job of washing the atmosphere. Now that it is past, our temps
are down in the 50s and every hour there is a stronger smell of wood
smoke, being generated from far away. It doesn't look hazy yet.
I'm wondering what it will be like tomorrow, with no line of rain between us and the source.
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Good morning Geoff, good morning OW.
Lovely sunny morning here.
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Morning Caro and OW. Lovely and sunny here as well :)
Time for more coffee before I do some transcribing!
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Hi all -
had to made a quick trip to Texas this week - 4 days driving from here to there and back for one day there...uuuggghhh.
If they don't get some rain soon, there will be no vegetation left at all. :o
hope everyone is doing well -
Kathy W.
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had to made a quick trip to Texas this week - 4 days driving from here to there and back for one day there...uuuggghhh.
Blimey! You can't drive for more than about one day in any direction over here!
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it was a little over 1500 miles one way - roughly half way across the country. ;D
my
Texas cousins were impressed - they are used to drives of 50 miles just
to go visit someone in another town - they said they would be hard
pressed to do 750 miles in a day ;D ;D
Kathy
I feel like I'm still moving :o
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it was a little over 1500 miles one way - roughly half way across the country. ;D
my
Texas cousins were impressed - they are used to drives of 50 miles just
to go visit someone in another town - they said they would be hard
pressed to do 750 miles in a day ;D ;D
heh... i've driven 40 miles one way to get a special soda...
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it was a little over 1500 miles one way - roughly half way across the country. ;D
my
Texas cousins were impressed - they are used to drives of 50 miles just
to go visit someone in another town - they said they would be hard
pressed to do 750 miles in a day ;D ;D
Kathy
I feel like I'm still moving :o
Personally, I would of took a plane, but that's just me... ::)
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Furthest you can drive in one direction in the UK is about 874 miles
(Lands End to John o'Groats) - any further than that and you have to
swim.
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If it had been up to be, fly definitely, but I went with my mother
and she will not fly - my sister did fly to Houston from CT, but she
drove back with us ( my oldest went also) and is on the train now back
home.
heh - I had to drive an hour when I was a kid/teenager just
to get McDonalds...or go to the movies....or go shopping at a
mall ;D
Kathy
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Jennifer, what the heck kind of soda was it?! I'd drive that
far (and farther) to get real sarsaparilla, now that I think about
it. (Can't ever find it anywhere these days!)
Cyzaki: I think there are Texans with longer driveways. You think I'm kidding, and I am, but only slightly.
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I remember family vacations, Milwaukee to DC and Milwaukee to Rocky
Mountain National Park - both closer to the 1200 mile mark. My dad
flat out refused to have kids in the car for 10-plus hours on the
second day out, although we'd drive two-thirds there on the first.
Load us all in the dark hours when we wanted to sleep and lots of
travel games to play. The second day in a row, he kept stopping at
parks so we could shake the fidgets out.
Kathy, you are heroic to not stretch it to 3 days each!
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we had no choice- could not leave until Tuesday morning and had to
be at our destination on Wednesday evening - couldn't leave to come home
until Friday and had to be back last night - uuuggghhhh I say again
Kathy
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You have my total sympathy. Driving 15 hours 4 days out of 5 sounds horrible. I'm glad you are back safely. :)
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Jennifer,
what the heck kind of soda was it?! I'd drive that far (and
farther) to get real sarsaparilla, now that I think about it.
(Can't ever find it anywhere these days!)
Cyzaki: I think there are Texans with longer driveways. You think I'm kidding, and I am, but only slightly.
Galco's
Soda Pop Stop (http://www.sodapopstop.com/home.cfm
(http://www.sodapopstop.com/home.cfm)) has their storefront relatively
close to me. I love going there for sarsparilla, birch beer,
ginger beer, ginger ale, and cucumber soda (Mr Q's - it's GREAT!).
It's also got sodas that aren't sold anywhere else, like Delaware
Punch, though they sell it as Pennsylvania Punch.
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See, this is why us Brits don't really get road trip movies. Road trips just don't exist over here.
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Well, you could drive right round the coast, I suppose, that would be a bit further ...
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Well, you could drive right round the coast, I suppose, that would be a bit further ...
You could, but that's a bit pointless if your aim is to get from A to B...
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Good morning OW. Misty and damp here.
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Morning OW and Caro. Damp here as well but my garden needed watering :)
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I'd
like to second Randi's recommendation of climateprediction.net
(http://www.climateprediction.net). It's a different sort of citizen
science (your computer does the work, not you) but it's just as valuable
as OldWeather in extending our understanding of how the climate works.
Give it a try - you could participate in CPDN and OldWeather at the same
time - your computer can be simulating the climate of the future while
you read the logbooks and recover the climate of the past.
It's
not likely that we'll be using CPDN for building the weather
reconstructions anytime soon - technical issues make the problem more
suited to conventional supercomputers - but I am thinking about it.
Is
anyone else doing BOINC projects? I was just wondering if anyone would
be interested in forming an OW team? I know that there are teams, but I
don't currently know anything about them.
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Hi Randi.
I am doing BOINC project. (now 4 projects)
I started 12 years ago.... with seti@home ;D
rgds
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I'd
like to second Randi's recommendation of climateprediction.net
(http://www.climateprediction.net). It's a different sort of citizen
science (your computer does the work, not you) but it's just as valuable
as OldWeather in extending our understanding of how the climate works.
Give it a try - you could participate in CPDN and OldWeather at the same
time - your computer can be simulating the climate of the future while
you read the logbooks and recover the climate of the past.
It's
not likely that we'll be using CPDN for building the weather
reconstructions anytime soon - technical issues make the problem more
suited to conventional supercomputers - but I am thinking about it.
Is
anyone else doing BOINC projects? I was just wondering if anyone would
be interested in forming an OW team? I know that there are teams, but I
don't currently know anything about them.
that's cool... I used to do seti, but stopped when my computer went splat. I'd be part of an OW team for it.
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Mornin', shipmates.
I looked at a few of the CS
projects that just use your computer power, but I never actually got
involved because I wanted a distraction. But I've read about
a few of these and I think it's a good way to help out without adding
to your workload.
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And Good Day to you, DJ, Hope your weather is as pleasant as mine has been today,
I
was signed up to seti some years back but, like jenfurr's, my machine
gave up the ghost (or the alien). I am not suggesting there is a
connection.
If, as seems to be the case, it's associated with
Berkeley (and if that's the same Berkeley that provided Stan Kenton with
some splendid musicians) then I should consider joining in.
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Hi Randi.
I am doing BOINC project. (now 4 projects)
I started 12 years ago.... with seti@home ;D
rgds
I started 4 years ago with ClimatePrediction, Einstein@home, and LHC@home.
I now have 12 projects - I think that is too many, but I can't decide what to eliminate!
;D
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I'm game for an OW group - I don't do any projects now, but my laptop is almost always on -
as is our desktop ;D
Kathy
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I did SETI for years until something went very wrong.
I'd be happy to have another go.
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Hello to all
This week end forecast for the Wine Festival at
Neuchatel Switzerland: Fine and clear. It will be great with flights of
the Swiss Patrol, fireworks and a lot of wine. It is to be known that
the last week end of September has a 5 per cent chance of rain: It was
like this at least for the last 50 years.
I will take shore leave
from Saturday noon until Sunday 8 P.M. I promise that I will not drink
too much wine as it is ordered in the King's Regulations. ::) ::)
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That sounds wonderful, h. Raise a glass or two to OW!
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I'll do it with pleasure Caro ;D
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sounds wonderful ;D have fun!
Hi everyone - hope everyone is doing well - the leaves are starting to turn here - I love Fall!
I want the cool and crisp!
Kathy W.
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That sounds wonderful, h. Raise a glass or two to OW!
Hear, hear!
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Good morning Geoff, morning all. Sunny, cool autumnal morning here.
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Morning OW and Caro. Looks like a lovely autumnal day coming up - should take a walk to Greenwich Park and see the colours!
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Not to hijack this thread, and to make BOINC questions / comments
easier to find, I have created a new thread:
http://forum.oldweather.org/index.php?topic=2028.0
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I am reading a history book and it mentions Leonhard Euler (1707 to 1783)
"He
shared in the international enterprise of finding longitude at sea by
charting the position of the planets and the phases of the moon; his
approximate solution helped John Harrison to draw up successful lunar
tables for the British Admiralty."
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Good morning Old Weather. Forecast of sunshine and 25C today. Surely some mistake. ;)
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On Monday the Met Office predicted 23 for us today and a lovely end
to the week. It's now down to 20 for today and the rest of the week
increasingly wet. Back to 14 by the weekend. So once again we will
shiver in our waterproofs while radio stations 4 & 5 wax lyrical
over the lovely weather. It may be better now 5 has moved to Salford and
away from the south east corner.
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We have a high of 22 forecast for Exeter and it is certainly "Calm 0
b" at the moment. But I know what you mean, studentforever; the
BBC do seem to have a perception that the weather in London and the
South-East is the only weather there is!
Edit: by mid-morning
the forecast for here has been modified to a high of 20 and apparently
it is foggy this morning! In fact it is still "Calm 0 b" - the Met
Office is situated approximately 2 miles from where I live, but I
suppose it could be foggy there. ::)
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Snooker in Poland ;D
http://www.worldsnooker.com/page/NewsArticles/0,,13165~2204252,00.html
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Good morning Old Weather.
Warm and sunny here although the local observation station (five miles away) reports dense fog.
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Positively hot here (Oxfordshire) and clear blue sky - some of the best weather we've had for months.
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Nary a cloud in the Cheshire sky.
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grey and cool here in Maryland - it is supposed to be clear and cool over the weekend - yeah!!! :D
Kathy
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Good morning!
Nice and foggy here in San Francisco, a nice break from our late summer!
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Good afternoon! Sunny, clear and 75F! Can't ask for nicer than that...
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75?F =something like 23?C
almost exactly what we're having over here this week (even a little bit more 26/27)
Summer was very cold and wet so we're over the moon over here ! ;D
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75?F =something like 23?C
almost exactly what we're having over here this week (even a little bit more 26/27)
Summer was very cold and wet so we're over the moon over here ! ;D
yes. we had a very mild summer (so far) - it never got above 98F/37C.
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I have a a cold morning only 9oC -48oF
But even in the afternoon 24oC-25oC -75oF-77oF 8)
So, on a trip to the mountains (I am only 20km ;D).
rgds
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Have fun szukacz.
The UK Met Office says:
Plenty of sunshine for England and Wales again, and exceptionally warm or hot.
Parts
of eastern Scotland will be warm too, but the rest of Scotland and
Northern Ireland will be breezy, with outbreaks of rain, some heavy in
places.
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And it is forecast to last for the next few days! ;D I
am off to the Eden Project tomorrow - I know the biomes are unaffected
by the weather outside, but there's much more to enjoy on a sunny day!
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Highs of 29 C in the UK today - hottest in over 100 years for
September. Trying to get the kids to do maths today was not easy
:-\
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we actually are going to be below average tonight - time to make hot chocolate ;D
Kathy
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By courtesy of Eddie Mair on Radio 4's PM programme (and the Met
Office) I am able to reveal that tomorrow may exceed the previous
highest October temperature in England. Currently the highest October
figure was in March. (Eddie is such a tease!)
Disambiguation: March is a town in Cambridgeshire.
October* 29.4 C 1 October 1985 March (Cambridgeshire)
http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/climate/uk/extremes/monthly_temperature_country.html
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All sorts of headlines about Indian summer and hottest October day
ever. Well it isn't really cold, just light jacket weather but the cars
still have their lights on at lunchtime and the rain is bucketing down.
The outdoor programme on radio Scotland was advising hill walkers that
visibility would be very poor above 1000ft. Can we please send some of
our surplus rain down to the South East and have a bit of their sun!!
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Sounds like a good idea to me. Send it down the east coast, please.
I've scoured the Northwest England sky but can't see anything resembling my recollection of what a cloud used to look like.
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Pay us a visit Bunts. The Met Office promises us clouds, visible
over the next 5 days, punctuated only by occasional sunny spells on
Tuesday. AND the temperatures will be dropping so bring your woollies.
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Pay
us a visit Bunts. The Met Office promises us clouds, visible over the
next 5 days, punctuated only by occasional sunny spells on Tuesday. AND
the temperatures will be dropping so bring your woollies.
I
have a friend (hard to believe, but true) who is one of Douglas Adams'
Rain Gods. Whenever he came oop north (when he worked in London) or dahn
sahf (when he worked in Scotland) it would rain. He had to travel
throughout Scotland and he doubted all the locals who greeted him with
"What a pity about the weather. I was lovely all last week."
I'll email him and tell him to stay in Inverness. ;D
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It's now one week since Caro created the BOINC Old Weather team!
Things
are taking a long time to update, but they are appearing. (We are still
waiting for the OW team to show up in SETI, but I have been told that
it will be there.)
We are up to 11 members now.
To see how and what we are doing, have a look at the following:
http://boincstats.com/stats/boinc_team_graph.php?pr=bo&teamcpid=458b2e76b918586f0d0d1a65026f9317
http://stats.free-dc.org/stats.php?page=teambycpid&team=Old+Weather
http://climateapps2.oerc.ox.ac.uk/cpdnboinc/team_display.php?teamid=9976
For
lots more details than you really want, see the thread BOINC Team for
OW / Zooniverse? (http://forum.oldweather.org/index.php?topic=2028.0)
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I believe it. I had a friend whose mother could do the same thing
and I believe the Queen has a reputation in Africa for breaking
droughts. However, could I suggest your friend settles in Kirkwall or
even Lerwick to give the weather gods a margin for error. I shall try
not to be too jealous of you lucky lot with some real sun and warmth
while I resume my cords, polo neck sweaters and fleeces.
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He is not infallible.
A few years ago we stayed there for a week
and my arm got badly sunburned, one afternoon, through the car window. I
trailed round the charity shops for long sleeved shirts.
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It's now one week since Caro created the BOINC Old Weather team!
Things are taking a long time to update ...
Thanks for the links.
Pity that the site is not so well organised as Old Weather.
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I just got word from Caro that the Old Weather team is now available on SETI@Home !
I
was playing around with the team search criteria (they seem to work as
union rather than intersection - which would seem the more logical to
me) and I found the following which really touched me:
Persian
Astronomy Online - Even in the middle of war and chaos individual people
CAN make a DIFFERENCE. Persian people have been renowned for their
academic excellence throughout history, As a persian I welcome ALL who
share my thirst and quest for WISDOM and who appreciate the need to give
a little of themselves in the hope of a better tomorrow. P.S Maybe this
is just a front for MILITARY number crunching needs (ECHELON anyone?) ?
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Good morning everyone! Reporting back on duty after a day's
shore leave (certainly picked the right day! - sorry, studentforever).
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Good morning Randi and thursdaynext, good morning everyone.
Another lovely day here. Got to make the most of it.
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Gooooood morning OW!
It's a beautiful bcp day here! An
alaskan cold front with rain was expected, but that's fizzled out so all
we get is the cool air (63f/17c) and a shower or two.
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Morning all. Bit sunny, bit chilly.
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Morning OW. Lovely autumn morning here.
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Believe it or not there is a funny yellow thing in the sky - I think
it is what the weather people call 'sun'. Never mind they forecast rain
for tomorrow, normal service will be resumed.
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Good evening Old Weather.
I see we have completed 90% of the logs. Well done us!
Tweeted. :)
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We
Want More Logs --- We Want More Logs --- We Want More Logs --- We Want
More Logs --- We Want More Logs --- We Want More Logs --- We Want More
Logs --- We Want More Logs --- We Want More Logs --- We Want More Logs
--- We Want More Logs --- We Want More Logs
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;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Good evening Old Weather.
I see we have completed 90% of the logs. Well done us!
Tweeted. :)
Well, some extra stats to throw out here (if anyone's interested).
According to my calculations, we have about 72,000 pages left (that is assuming that we have 750,000 pages total).
Also,
I've been taking AP Stats, so using a Linear Regression derived from
data of completion from Wikipedia, my estimation to when we reach 100%
would be around November 30th. I wouldn't put too much faith in this,
though, since according to the Linear Regression, we're supposed to be
at about 91% today.
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We
Want More Logs --- We Want More Logs --- We Want More Logs --- We Want
More Logs --- We Want More Logs --- We Want More Logs --- We Want More
Logs --- We Want More Logs --- We Want More Logs --- We Want More Logs
--- We Want More Logs --- We Want More Logs
Good heavens! Have you finished every available ship?! :o
Somehow,
I doubt we'll get more logs till we are a lot nearer completing the
ones we have. As soon as new ships are available I suspect most of
us will abandon the ships we are mopping up at present and will be
scrabbling to become captains in the expanded fleet! (Well, I know
I will! ;D )
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Solar changes help create cold northern winters:
http://www.sciencenews.org/view/generic/id/335053/title/Solar_changes_help_create_cold_northern_winters
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Good evening Old Weather.
I see we have completed 90% of the logs. Well done us!
Tweeted. :)
Well, some extra stats to throw out here (if anyone's interested).
According to my calculations, we have about 72,000 pages left (that is assuming that we have 750,000 pages total).
Also,
I've been taking AP Stats, so using a Linear Regression derived from
data of completion from Wikipedia, my estimation to when we reach 100%
would be around November 30th. I wouldn't put too much faith in this,
though, since according to the Linear Regression, we're supposed to be
at about 91% today.
What's the r value from your linear regression model? Were any other models a better fit?
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Good evening Old Weather.
I see we have completed 90% of the logs. Well done us!
Tweeted. :)
Well, some extra stats to throw out here (if anyone's interested).
According to my calculations, we have about 72,000 pages left (that is assuming that we have 750,000 pages total).
Also,
I've been taking AP Stats, so using a Linear Regression derived from
data of completion from Wikipedia, my estimation to when we reach 100%
would be around November 30th. I wouldn't put too much faith in this,
though, since according to the Linear Regression, we're supposed to be
at about 91% today.
What's the r value from your linear regression model? Were any other models a better fit?
The r value (as far as I know) is .99897, so it's a REALLY strong graph, so I don't know what's wrong...
Here's
the numbers if you want to mess with them. The L1 is the dates, and
it's set up so 2 means January 2nd 2011, 5 means January 5 2011, 34
means February 3 2011, and so on. L2 is the percent complete number.
L1=2,
5, 8, 11, 25, 30, 34, 41, 44, 48, 57, 60, 64, 72, 74, 80, 88, 92, 99,
101, 105, 112, 114, 120, 126, 130, 134, 137, 141, 154, 192, 201, 217,
222, 235, 240, 243, 273, 283
L2=34, 34, 35, 36, 40, 41, 42, 43, 44,
45, 47, 48, 48, 49, 50, 51, 52, 53, 54, 55, 56, 57, 58, 59, 60, 61, 62,
63, 64, 66, 74, 75, 78, 79, 81, 82, 83, 88, 90
Re-looking at the graph, it actually now says November 24th will be the 100% day.
I've only had AP Stats for about a month, so I don't know about any other models that would fit. Did you have AP Stats?
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Good evening Old Weather.
I see we have completed 90% of the logs. Well done us!
Tweeted. :)
Well, some extra stats to throw out here (if anyone's interested).
According to my calculations, we have about 72,000 pages left (that is assuming that we have 750,000 pages total).
Also,
I've been taking AP Stats, so using a Linear Regression derived from
data of completion from Wikipedia, my estimation to when we reach 100%
would be around November 30th. I wouldn't put too much faith in this,
though, since according to the Linear Regression, we're supposed to be
at about 91% today.
What's the r value from your linear regression model? Were any other models a better fit?
The r value (as far as I know) is .99897, so it's a REALLY strong graph, so I don't know what's wrong...
Here's
the numbers if you want to mess with them. The L1 is the dates, and
it's set up so 2 means January 2nd 2011, 5 means January 5 2011, 34
means February 3 2011, and so on. L2 is the percent complete number.
L1=2,
5, 8, 11, 25, 30, 34, 41, 44, 48, 57, 60, 64, 72, 74, 80, 88, 92, 99,
101, 105, 112, 114, 120, 126, 130, 134, 137, 141, 154, 192, 201, 217,
222, 235, 240, 243, 273, 283
L2=34, 34, 35, 36, 40, 41, 42, 43, 44,
45, 47, 48, 48, 49, 50, 51, 52, 53, 54, 55, 56, 57, 58, 59, 60, 61, 62,
63, 64, 66, 74, 75, 78, 79, 81, 82, 83, 88, 90
Re-looking at the graph, it actually now says November 24th will be the 100% day.
I've only had AP Stats for about a month, so I don't know about any other models that would fit. Did you have AP Stats?
That is almost perfect; I've never seen something in the real world have such a good fit!
I
have a B.S. in Business Administration with emphasis in Marketing, so I
had to take a LOT of statistical analysis courses. And then I
became a certified Crime and Intelligence Analyst, which entailed even
more statistics classes, with a teacher who didn't let us use
calculators and had us do quadratic equations with pencil/paper..
My
favorite from the crime analysis world... weighted split time
analysis. Linear regression is the easiest one. Weighted
average takes a bit of massaging.
Now ask me if my current job has anything to do with the above. Nope.
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Good evening Old Weather.
I see we have completed 90% of the logs. Well done us!
Tweeted. :)
Well, some extra stats to throw out here (if anyone's interested).
According to my calculations, we have about 72,000 pages left (that is assuming that we have 750,000 pages total).
Also,
I've been taking AP Stats, so using a Linear Regression derived from
data of completion from Wikipedia, my estimation to when we reach 100%
would be around November 30th. I wouldn't put too much faith in this,
though, since according to the Linear Regression, we're supposed to be
at about 91% today.
What's the r value from your linear regression model? Were any other models a better fit?
The r value (as far as I know) is .99897, so it's a REALLY strong graph, so I don't know what's wrong...
Here's
the numbers if you want to mess with them. The L1 is the dates, and
it's set up so 2 means January 2nd 2011, 5 means January 5 2011, 34
means February 3 2011, and so on. L2 is the percent complete number.
L1=2,
5, 8, 11, 25, 30, 34, 41, 44, 48, 57, 60, 64, 72, 74, 80, 88, 92, 99,
101, 105, 112, 114, 120, 126, 130, 134, 137, 141, 154, 192, 201, 217,
222, 235, 240, 243, 273, 283
L2=34, 34, 35, 36, 40, 41, 42, 43, 44,
45, 47, 48, 48, 49, 50, 51, 52, 53, 54, 55, 56, 57, 58, 59, 60, 61, 62,
63, 64, 66, 74, 75, 78, 79, 81, 82, 83, 88, 90
Re-looking at the graph, it actually now says November 24th will be the 100% day.
I've only had AP Stats for about a month, so I don't know about any other models that would fit. Did you have AP Stats?
That is almost perfect; I've never seen something in the real world have such a good fit!
I
have a B.S. in Business Administration with emphasis in Marketing, so I
had to take a LOT of statistical analysis courses. And then I
became a certified Crime and Intelligence Analyst, which entailed even
more statistics classes, with a teacher who didn't let us use
calculators and had us do quadratic equations with pencil/paper..
My
favorite from the crime analysis world... weighted split time
analysis. Linear regression is the easiest one. Weighted
average takes a bit of massaging.
Now ask me if my current job has anything to do with the above. Nope.
Oh the irony. ;D What is your current job?
No calculator!?! Was he/she insane? I can't survive without mine!
Do you have any idea what might be wrong with my graph (if there is anything)?
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Don't forget that when we started out we were all Newbys. Now we are
hard-core transcribers and Newbys mixed. Also, it is the least popular
(difficult and/or boring) ships that are left which probably discourages
most Newbys. Perhaps that is not accounted for in the statistical
method?
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Just when I thought we could not
1) get more addicted
2) get more nerdier about this project
you guys show me just how wrong I was ;D
this just moves the addicted goal posts to a whole new level!
Kathy W.
I
thought Jennfurr's transcribing while in labor would be the pinnacle of
addiction, but I do see she is involved in this discussion ;D
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Don't
forget that when we started out we were all Newbys. Now we are
hard-core transcribers and Newbys mixed. Also, it is the least popular
(difficult and/or boring) ships that are left which probably discourages
most Newbys. Perhaps that is not accounted for in the statistical
method?
Maybe,
but the r value is still pretty strong (the closer it is to 1 the more
consistent the data is). If the completion rate was really slowing down,
then the r value would be weaker. Maybe it's one of those cases where a
graph is better long-term than short-term. ???
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Oh the irony. ;D What is your current job?
No calculator!?! Was he/she insane? I can't survive without mine!
Do you have any idea what might be wrong with my graph (if there is anything)?
1.
I work in a children's hospital and do the equivalent of background
checks/employment verification for doctors who want to work there.
For anyone here in the states who might work up my alley, I'm a
Credentials Coordinator.
2. Yes, he was a bit nuts. Smart, but nuts.
3.
Unfortunately, I probably won't have time to sit down any time soon to
play and crunch numbers. With a newborn plus three other children,
I only get spare minutes here and there in the forums, and even less
time transcribing (it's hard to type with only one hand
available). I'll try, but it may be a while. You should show
your teacher how you're playing and see if he has any insight. If
anything, maybe he'll give you extra credit! :) :)
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For this reply, I think this thread may be more appropriate.
And yet more... thanks, Bunts!
- I will indeed keep scratching at the surface, it's a definite case of pruritus :D
And it applies to me because the locality is a three letter word beginning with "a". ;D
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3.
Unfortunately, I probably won't have time to sit down any time soon to
play and crunch numbers. With a newborn plus three other children,
I only get spare minutes here and there in the forums, and even less
time transcribing (it's hard to type with only one hand
available). I'll try, but it may be a while. You should show your teacher how you're playing and see if he has any insight. If anything, maybe he'll give you extra credit! :) :)
Maybe you can recruit him/her! ;D
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3.
Unfortunately, I probably won't have time to sit down any time soon to
play and crunch numbers. With a newborn plus three other children,
I only get spare minutes here and there in the forums, and even less
time transcribing (it's hard to type with only one hand
available). I'll try, but it may be a while. You should show
your teacher how you're playing and see if he has any insight. If
anything, maybe he'll give you extra credit! :) :)
Well, I'll ask her tomorrow, but she's not one to give extra credit. Maybe she'll know what's up! ;D
Maybe you can recruit him/her! ;D
Well,
she's a busy person who has some health problems (she was limping in
class today) and not really one who's interesting in weather. I did use
Old Weather in a recent assignment I had to do (she calls them
"Investigative Tasks", it was the first one that I got a 20/20 on!)
Maybe she's already looking into the project! ;D
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Morning OW - we've reached 100 pages of Chat :)
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I have a complaint to make - there is far too much interesting stuff on this Forum! >:(
I don't have much time for transcribing today, and now I've wasted spent most of it just catching up here!
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I have a complaint to make - there is far too much interesting stuff on this Forum! >:(
I don't have much time for transcribing today, and now I've wasted spent most of it just catching up here!
Same here ;D
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Cloud seeding by trees could alter precipitation, climate:
http://www.sciencenews.org/view/generic/id/335144/title/Cloud_seeding_by_trees_could_alter_precipitation%2C_climate
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Good morning crew. Sunny morning here. ;D
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Good morning crew. Sunny morning here. ;D
::looking outside:: nope, still seems quite dark here! ;) (midnight and 61F/16C where I am)
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08:18 here and 2oC. ;D
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Morning OW and Caro. Nice autumn day here :)
About to set off for some mud larking along the Thames in Greenwich with some Galaxy Zoo people!
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Nice day for it Geoff. Have fun. :D
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Welcome aboard HMS Bramble, as-yet-unknown-to-me new shipmate.
She is not a plagueship, I think we've just run into the influenza pandemic.
We shall see.
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Morning OW. Didn't find anything special on the mud lark expedition,
a clay pipe, some metal objects and an interesting piece of rock
:(
We did find an ancient anchor:
(http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6116/6256411129_74158dac34_z.jpg)
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Yes, but was it Port or Star?? ;D
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Good morning all -
I hope you had a good time at least, Geoff -
hope everyone has a good day today -
ta-
Kathy
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Thanks, Kathy - you too!! :)
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One of our own can be heard in a "digital story" about Old Weather here: http://www.projectaspect.org/our_films?page=su
Nice job, Su (Thursdaynext).
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That is brilliant, congratulations Su. A really well told little story.
Thanks
K
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Agree absolutely with Tegwen - sums it up perfectly and succinctly; Thursdaynext could have been speaking for me! ;D
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Good job Su!
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Good morning Randi, good morning OW.
Great pic Geoff. Did you take the anchor home?
Su is a bit of star, don't you think? :D
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Morning OW and Caro. The anchor was a bit too heavy to move! There
were some enormous chains on the shore, some of them had links that were
too heavy to move - about an inch thick :o
I was
pleasantly surprised that the shore was so clean. There was no litter at
all apart from one plastic cup, a woman's shoe and a wallet (empty!).
The council must be keeping the river clean.
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The shore looks very clean in the pic. Good to hear.
Shame you couldn't get the anchor home though. ;)
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Sorry, no log book :'(
Ardnamurchan Viking boat burial discovery 'a first' (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-highlands-islands-15333852)
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Sorry, no log book :'(
Ardnamurchan Viking boat burial discovery 'a first' (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-highlands-islands-15333852)
Perhaps it's just as well, considering the trouble we have with English.
I have (somewhere) a book of runes and a conversion program wot I wrote. I'm not sure where my BBC micro is now. ;D
So
much for movie history, where the warrior's buddies put him in his boat
with a load of kindling, set it alight and cast it adrift. I always had
doubts about that - would the flames consume him before the hull burnt
through?
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For those who are interested, here is a very basic introduction to climate science and climate modeling: http://climateprediction.net/content/climate-science-explained
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And we've reached 92% !!! ;D
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In the OW Rankings thread, tastiger's prediction
(http://forum.oldweather.org/index.php?topic=5.msg27716#msg27716) was
that, if we continue as we have been going, we should finish this batch
of logs by about 27th Nov.
We discussed in that
thread that it was impossible to know if things would continue as they
had been going. I think there is some encouragement to be had from the
data
(https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?authkey=CLrA08wC&key=0An8yHtxRRKO_dFRHQ01POU8zNC1IMllBdWw2MGpQREE&hl=en&authkey=CLrA08wC#gid=5)
that popzeus has been collating; they show a fairly consistent effort
so far, with an average of about 7,500 entries made per day (range:
2,500 to 22,000 entries).
I have attached a screenshot of
the chart; this shows the number of entries made each day from June to
October. Whilst there are day to day fluctuations, the overall trend is
pretty steady...
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Good morning OW. Clear and chilly here.
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Morning, Caro!
Cold but gloriously sunny here - just got in
from walking the greyhound & lurcher that are staying with us at the
moment. Having a dog around certainly makes one get out and appreciate
the lovely weather. :)
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I've noticed that cats aren't so keen on the great outdoors at this time. ;)
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Morning, Caro!
Cold
but gloriously sunny here - just got in from walking the greyhound
& lurcher that are staying with us at the moment. Having a dog
around certainly makes one get out and appreciate the lovely
weather. :)
And, with those, perhaps secure some ingredients for dinner?
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Climate, but land based: Sarah James brings stories of change
affecting her Caribou People in Alaska.
(http://www.sciencenews.org/view/generic/id/335480/title/Sarah%E2%80%99s_tale_of_Arctic_warming)
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Old Weather is 1 year.
Old Weather BOINC Team is 1 month.
Here
are some numbers on how we are doing (I'm sure that if it weren't for
the vandalism at climateprediction.net we would be even higher):
Compiled from BOINCstats (http://boincstats.com/stats/boinc_team_graph.php?pr=bo&teamcpid=458b2e76b918586f0d0d1a65026f9317) and climateprediction.net
World position
Based on Credit Based on
RAC Out Of Current Credit
10 Oct 18,031 2,176 93,477
12 Oct 17,609 2,147 93,501
14
Oct 17,084
1,988 93,522
424,868.94
16 Oct
16,710 1,900
93,549 444,110.04
18
Oct 16,179
1,912 93,580
471,714.52
20 Oct
15,756 1,845
93,606 494,908.47
22
Oct 15,572
1,999 93,644
502,867.20
Current
Current
Credit Position
Climate Prediction:
10 October 303,396.91 1,572
12 October 311,169.93 1,549
14 October 319,875.12 1,525
16 October 324,672.87 1,515
18 October 338,874.73 1,476
20 October 343,872.14 1,453
22
October
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Cosmology@Home:
12 October 3,780.00 1,182
14 October 4,200.00 1,169
16 October 4,620.00 1,163
18 October 5,460.00 1,134
20 October 5,880.00 1,122
22 October 6,300.00 1,111
Einstein@Home:
12 October 25,288.25 5,476
14 October 28,817.21 5,295
16 October 33,691.99 5,097
18 October 37,718.65 4,952
20 October 43,172.98 4,775
22 October 46,783.11 4,667
Enigma@Home:
12 October 805.69 734
14 October 908.17 730
16 October 959.54 730
18 October 959.54 730
20 October 1,013.87 726
22 October 1,063.40 717
eOn:
14
October
53.46 393
16 October 145.01 373
18 October 220.63 356
20 October 297.89 349
22 October 355.12 344
LHC@Home Classic:
12 October 2,199.94 1,944
14 October 2,456.00 1,884
16 October 3,096.69 1,746
18 October 3,105.70 1,751
20 October 3,248.35 1,723
22 October 3,373.44 1,692
MilkyWay@home:
12 October 15,392.46 2,008
14 October 19,182.68 1,950
16 October 23,164.18 1,894
18 October 27,137.68 1,849
20 October 30,827.23 1,812
22 October 32,944.71 1,793
Rosetta@Home:
12 October 16,859.93 5,179
14 October 18,291.96 5,065
16 October 20,195.28 4,944
18 October 21,938.72 4,829
20 October 24,351.71 4,688
22 October 26,371.24 4,575
SETI@Home:
12 October 676.36 51,996
14 October 676.36 52,003
16 October 946.71 50,738
18 October 1,852.98 47,791
20 October 1,852.98 47,798
22 October 2,830.10 45,637
The Lattice Project:
12 October 153.48 769
14 October 455.07 699
16 October 455.07 699
18 October 455.07 699
20 October 455.07 699
22 October 455.07 699
World Community Grid:
12 October 8,186.33 15,150
14 October 9,893.34 14,758
16 October 11,554.98 14,428
18 October 12,616.05 14,229
20 October 14,308.56 13,955
22 October 14,933.24 13,852
yoyo@home:
12 October 17,443.43 357
14 October 20,059.57 350
16 October 20.607.72 348
18 October 21,374.77 348
20 October 25,627.69 327
22 October 27,032.46 323
Climate Prediction Totals
14 Oct 15 Oct 16 Oct 18 Oct
Bunts 2,190 2,190 2,388 2,587
Caro 3,924 3,924 4,486 5,047
Cyzaki 1,633 1,633 1,633 1,944
DJ
0
0 0
2,789
Geoff Roynon 74,929 74,929 74,929 74,929
Jennfurr
0
0 0
0
Kathy 23,560 25,262 26,368 29,181
Randi 444,128 445,130 446,131 449,020
shippeb 2,799 3,110 3,732 3,732
szukacz 17,408 18,179 18,951 20,343
thursdaynext 401 401 599 599
As you can see, we are moving steadily up the rankings!
We could move even faster with a few more members!
Hint, Hint, Hint ;D See more at BOINC Team for OW / Zooniverse? (http://forum.oldweather.org/index.php?topic=2028.msg26572#msg26572)
A
couple of people had problems with climateprediction.net. Geoff reports
(http://forum.oldweather.org/index.php?topic=2028.msg28417#msg28417)
that he also had problems with climateprediction.net but is able to run
other projects.
There are plenty of projects available - here are a couple:
SETI@home (http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/)
"SETI
(Search for Extraterrestrial Intelligence) is a scientific area whose
goal is to detect intelligent life outside Earth. One approach, known as
radio SETI, uses radio telescopes to listen for narrow-bandwidth radio
signals from space. Such signals are not known to occur naturally, so a
detection would provide evidence of extraterrestrial technology."
Malariacontrol.net (http://www.malariacontrol.net/)
"The
malariacontrol.net project is an application that makes use of network
computing for stochastic modelling of the clinical epidemiology and
natural history of Plasmodium falciparum malaria."
World Community Grid (http://www.worldcommunitygrid.org/)
Multiple projects including:
"...The
Clean Energy Project to help discover new materials that efficiently
capture and store solar radiation as energy for later use..."
"...Computing for Clean Water project to find more efficient and lower-cost methods for producing clean water..."
"...Help
Fight Childhood Cancer project to help find drugs to disable proteins
associated with the most frequently occurring solid tumors in
children..."
Einstein@Home (http://einstein.phys.uwm.edu/)
"...
search for gravitational waves from spinning neutron stars (also called
pulsars) using data from the LIGO gravitational wave detector. ... also
searches for radio pulsars in binary systems, using data from the
Arecibo Observatory in Puerto Rico."
(apologies for the length!)
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Good morning OW and good morning Randi.
You have been busy! Glad to see the team is still going well despite the climateprediction trouble.
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I just wish I had started saving the statistics earlier :(
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Morning OW.
Thanks for all the stats on the BOINC projects Randi.
For
anyone interested in running BOINC, they can find a list of projects
here: BOINC Projects (http://boinc.berkeley.edu/projects.php)
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Good morning Geoff, good morning all.
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Same again. ;D
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Morning OW and Caro, cold and damp here, enjoying my first coffee of the day.
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Very damp here too, not to mention dark.
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In Chicago this morning, it's light airs, cp sky and high around 70 -
for one day only. A storm front tonight is expected to usher in a
cold front.
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Ship from failed Mongol invasion found off Japan (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-pacific-15452071)
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RLT weather here. During the afternoon, all the teachers were worried that there might be a blackout. :o
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RLT weather here. During the afternoon, all the teachers were worried that there might be a blackout. :o
Ooh. "Blackout" - is that in common use? I thought you had "outages".
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Civilian victims say "black out" or "power is out" while the power
companies and reporters who want to sound sophisticated try to avoid
such bluntness by saying "outage". Means the same thing, and makes
a distinction from brown outs. 8)
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I just heard this evening that we may have snow on Saturday -
so it begins....
Kathy W.
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We're not going to have actual snow in Chicago yet (I think) but
there is a cold front coming through tonight. A high of 71 this
afternoon, and a high of 51 expected tomorrow. At least I think
the first snow will hold off until November sometime.
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Water spout forms off Sussex coast (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-sussex-15453834)
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Morning all. Stormy weather.
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Hi all -
clear and cool here - looks like the snow is coming :o
ooh,
my husband and I are going Tuesday to the National Geographic exhibit
and lecture about the Saxon gold hoard that was found in Staffordshire -
some of the pieces are on display - it should be very interesting!
Kathy
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It's cool here, in the 30s to 40s, but the sky is a pretty bc.
Clouds and rain tonight, sun and rain alternating all weekend. It
doesn't look like any frost or snow yet, at least near the lake.
ooh,
my husband and I are going Tuesday to the National Geographic exhibit
and lecture about the Saxon gold hoard that was found in Staffordshire -
some of the pieces are on display - it should be very interesting!
That
sounds fascinating. Is the exhibit going to be traveling to
Chicago in the future? I'd like to see it, but the east coast is a
bit far away. :)
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Hi all -
clear and cool here - looks like the snow is coming :o
ooh,
my husband and I are going Tuesday to the National Geographic exhibit
and lecture about the Saxon gold hoard that was found in Staffordshire -
some of the pieces are on display - it should be very interesting!
Kathy
It
hasnt even toured the UK yet. There are small exhibitions of pieces in
Birmingham and Stoke, but most of it is still in conservation in
Birmingham. You are so lucky to get to see it.
We had the largest
hoard of Roman coins found only 5 miles from here, just over a year ago
and it has been moved to the far end of the county for conservation, so I
am still waiting to see that.
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I just watched an interesting story on ABC evening news.
We
are celebrating the 125th Anniversary of the dedication of the Statue of
Liberty
(http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/lady-liberty-feted-125th-birthday-party-14831840).
They then will close her interior for a year of renovations. :-\
But they put some webcams online so everyone can see what she sees
24/7. (Live streaming HD stuff that doesn't paste well into the
forum - google it.)
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I don't know if the exhibit will travel - I think this, the lecture anyway, is a one shot deal at NatGeo headquarters.
Kathy
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:(
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Mornin', everyone. Love the NY cams. And I'm green
with envy over the NatGeo exhibit. I've never seen one of those
before except in books.
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Oct 29, 2011, 9:34am - SNOW! :o
my Halloween pumpkin is getting a white cap ;D
Kathy
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Hi wendolk
- is that 's' or 's'? :D
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little s - now it is cold gloppy rain :P
messy and sloppy >:(
Kathy
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I was just looking at a cam pointing to a corner in NYC. It was slushy snow there, but lots of it.
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boy, the snow is really coming down now! :o
Kathy
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Do you know any web camera somewhere in your area I look at snow ;D
I
have a friend online, from Canada who always thought that Poland bears
white all year round in the streets running. ;D ;D ;D
For me it's a beautiful starry night. 7oC. I'm waiting until Jupiter rises.
It is unfortunate that shines more and less.
I write, sitting and drinking a Moldovan wine.
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ok - here is a link to traffic cameras in my area -
http://atms.montgomerycountymd.gov/jpgcap/TL/
the
one closest to my house is the Lakeforest Transit Center at Lost Knife
Rd and Odenhal Ave - if you hover over a blue dot, the location of the
camera will be displayed - you can see the snow falling and it is
starting to really accumulate on the trees and ground -
Kathy
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ok - here is a link to traffic cameras in my area -
http://atms.montgomerycountymd.gov/jpgcap/TL/
the
one closest to my house is the Lakeforest Transit Center at Lost Knife
Rd and Odenhal Ave - if you hover over a blue dot, the location of the
camera will be displayed - you can see the snow falling and it is
starting to really accumulate on the trees and ground -
Kathy
Just got in from a ceilidh, and your bus station just looks wet! I can't see any snow there now!
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I know - I looked also and I think it has already melted there -
there is still some on the ground here at our house - I think the snow
is gone from there because of the traffic and concrete - not a lot of
grass there.
1.5 million people have lost their power - not us (yeah!)
here is a link to pictures from around the region taken by people and posted on the Washington Post web site:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/conversations/winter-2011-your-snow-photos/2011/02/02/ABV9NrO_ugcgallery.html
there are pictures from other snowfalls in the area, so check the dates -
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You've got competition... (http://twp_echo_ugc.s3.amazonaws.com//2faa93456f67643fb8ecaea5a5dd2fea_web.jpg) ;D
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Wow, I must be lucky. Here in Wisconsin I'm not getting any snow.
This is very ironic, though, considering we're the state that usually
gets the worst weather. :-\
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I found this one, streaming video with temperature readings in Times
Square, NY, NY - definitely snow/rain falling but too warm to
stick. Generally yucky and miserable.
http://www.earthcam.com/usa/newyork/timessquare/?cam=tstwo_hd
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1.5 million people have lost their power - not us (yeah!)
here is a link to pictures from around the region taken by people and posted on the Washington Post web site:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/conversations/winter-2011-your-snow-photos/2011/02/02/ABV9NrO_ugcgallery.html
It's unwise to gloat. ;)
That second photo looks like an impressionist painting.
And
then there's the Pinocchio snowman ... I saw a 6 foot tall Pinocchio
with lederhosen striding nonchalantly down the road this afternoon ...
and I've not had a drink for weeks.
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Yeah, Kathy, I agree with Bunts. That was tempting
fate. ;) That's like the announcer saying "He hasn't
had a punt blocked in 300 attempts". Followed by the inevitable
double-thud.
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Good morning crew. We are back on GMT in the UK.
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Perhaps for the last time
(if the current administration gets its way... ;) )
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My poor sister and her family - they are some of the 2.5 million people without power :( they live in CT -
I
read some articles about the proposed change to time keeping - it
doesn't seem to me to be a good idea - especially for the more
northern parts of the UK -
Kathy W.
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I hope your sister gets her power back soon Kathy.
It's a gloomy day here and sunset is at 16.38 in the south. Bleh.
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Bleh is right
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I'm embarrassed to say that here in NW England, we have warm sunshine and nothing but vapour trails in the sky.
So it will probably snow tomorrow.
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Perhaps for the last time
(if the current administration gets its way... ;) )
I heard it said (on radio 4, so it must be true) that the "Regional Assemblies" would have a veto on it.
I'm pretty sure that our canny Scottish cousins will require the status quo.
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Perhaps for the last time
(if the current administration gets its way... ;) )
I heard it said (on radio 4, so it must be true) that the "Regional Assemblies" would have a veto on it.
I'm pretty sure that our canny Scottish cousins will require the status quo.
Indeed
they will; I speak as one who experienced the last time this bright
idea got tried. Sitting in a chemistry lesson in the dark was even
less fun than they usually were - in the middle of winter the sun
didn't get up until about 10am. I'll be supporting the Scots from
my soft Southern residence!
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I remember the last time they tried it. Daylight (those days with
any) started about 10.30am and I still got home in the dark after
work. Now I'm retired it wouldn't be quite so bad, I'm freer to do
what they did in the olden days and adjust my life to the daylight
instead of the clock! Now that I have computers which reset their
clocks, central heating which resets its clock etc how long will I have
to spend overriding the clever electronics (which no doubt will keep
resetting themselves at every inconvenient opportunity)?
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This "Lighter Later" campaign is one thing I just can't agree with
the 10:10 campaign about! I don't understand how it saves
energy. Perhaps I'm just being thick, but it seems to me people
will just be putting their lights and heating on in the morning instead
of the evening. Wouldn't it only work for people who live in the
South and don't have to get up before 9am? And I can't see any
benefit in it being light until 11pm in the summer. So I'm with
the Scots, too, even though I live in the Southwest of England!
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Oops - I seem to have rattled a few cages inadvertently...
note to self - try to avoid posts relating to religion, women or politics in future! :)
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Oops - I seem to have rattled a few cages inadvertently...
note to self - try to avoid posts relating to religion, women or politics in future! :)
"Sport" can be tricky, too.
Tell you what, though; Janet J's excellent spot of "Hong Bee" was good news. If someone had claimed there was once a shipping line called "Wee Bin & Co." no one would have believed you found it credible.
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Oops - I seem to have rattled a few cages inadvertently...
note to self - try to avoid posts relating to religion, women or politics in future! :)
"Sport" can be tricky, too.
Tell you what, though; Janet J's excellent spot of "Hong Bee" was good news. If someone had claimed there was once a shipping line called "Wee Bin & Co." no one would have believed you found it credible.
I thought it said Hong Bee, but my sleep-muzzled brain couldn't find a reference to it
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I was looking for Honey Bee, first, as I thought "Hong" unlikely,
even though the writing isn't very uneven. I broke Rule 1. :-[
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This
"Lighter Later" campaign is one thing I just can't agree with the 10:10
campaign about! I don't understand how it saves energy.
Perhaps I'm just being thick, but it seems to me people will just be
putting their lights and heating on in the morning instead of the
evening. Wouldn't it only work for people who live in the South
and don't have to get up before 9am? And I can't see any benefit
in it being light until 11pm in the summer. So I'm with the Scots,
too, even though I live in the Southwest of England!
I'm glad it 's not just me who can't see how this would actually help - thank you!
And Heffkit, don't worry - some of us enjoy having a chance to wax eloquent/indignant or whatever. ;)
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I'm six thousand miles removed from all this, so my information
may be weak at best. However, it seems to me "lighter later" would
mean far less power usage. Ideally you don't use much while
sleeping. Lights are out through the house. If you're going
to bed before dark, less power use. If you're going to work before
light, less power use. Also, there are a lot of studies out there
that say the economy does better in "daylight savings time" (our term
for it, anyway) because people tend to shop more in daylight.
I'm
not saying it's a great idea, just that it could have benefits.
At least on paper. They might want to look at studies done in
Alaska involving psychological impact on people trying to go to sleep in
broad daylight on a regular basis. Frankly, I say the solution
there is blackout curtains. I have 'em and I never know what time
it is. Though I'm not at all sure those two facts are related.
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I agree with helenj re Humph in her recent Reply #105 in 'Top three enhancements we would like to see (http://forum.oldweather.org/index.php?topic=2034.105)' ...
Makes me think - surely there must be an international Royal Naval variation of Mornington Crescent?
Presumably, Portsmouth would replace Mornington Crescent as the target, but otherwise similar rules would apply.
However, if we ever did decide it were possible, I think I would probably start with Perim Island... ;)
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I'm
six thousand miles removed from all this, so my information may be weak
at best. However, it seems to me "lighter later" would mean far
less power usage. Ideally you don't use much while sleeping.
Lights are out through the house. If you're going to bed before
dark, less power use. If you're going to work before light, less
power use. Also, there are a lot of studies out there that say the
economy does better in "daylight savings time" (our term for it,
anyway) because people tend to shop more in daylight.
I'm
not saying it's a great idea, just that it could have benefits. At
least on paper. They might want to look at studies done in Alaska
involving psychological impact on people trying to go to sleep in broad
daylight on a regular basis. Frankly, I say the solution there is
blackout curtains. I have 'em and I never know what time it
is. Though I'm not at all sure those two facts are related.
It
is a great idea in summer - everyone who works business hours wakes up
in daylight, works in daylight, and then has 3 to 5 hours additional
daylight to do all kinds of things.
In late December, the World Clock site (http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/) says:
Chicago, Illinois has 9 hours 8 minutes of daylight total
Seattle, Washington has 8 hours 25 minutes of daylight total
London, England has 7 hours 55 minutes of daylight total
Inverness, Scotland has 6 hours 35 minutes of daylight total
They
all have no light at all in the evening after work which makes the
economic argument null and void, but if I had less than 7 hours of sun,
I'd want some of it in the morning.
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GCHQ chief reports 'disturbing' cyber attacks on UK (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-15516959)
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Good morning Randi, good morning OW.
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Good morning Caro, good morning OW.
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Morning OW, damp here this morning!
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Hiya Geoff and good morning all.
How did it get to be November already? :D
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Tegwen,
How are the bees doing?
I hope that no news is not bad news.
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I was wondering as well. Did you get any honey?
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Good morning Old Weather.
Congratulations to the amazing lollia paolina who has gone way past her 100,000th weather entry.
Forza lollia! ;D
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Do you think Lollia ever stops to sleep or eat? I can't imagine that she could.
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I'm docked in Portsmouth at the moment (1919)
Just happened to find this link:
The
Spinnaker Tower, which stands at 170 metres high, sits beside Gunwharf
Quays as the centrepiece of the Millennium Project for the Renaissance
of Portsmouth Harbour.
Webcam: Spinnaker Tower (http://www.bbc.co.uk/hampshire/content/webcams/webcam_portsmouths_spinnaker_tower_webcam.shtml)
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If anyone is really interested in what is happening in the
Portsmouth and Southampton area, there is a continually updated map with
ship movements here.
http://www.ship-tracking.co.uk/aismap/AIS%20Maps/solent.html. You can
simultaneously listen to the various radio channels used by ship and
shore stations in the area, using the Radio WMP button. A couple of
words of warning. They dont like people hogging the radio channel for
too long as there seem to be a limited number of feeds. Also it can
become addictive. Enjoy. K
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Looking close at the webcam you can see the masts of HMS Warrior in
the Royal Naval Museum. http://www.hmswarrior.org/. HMS Victory is also
there, although I cant be sure you can see her masts on the cam.
Recently one of our ships, the M33 captained by the one and only Bunts,
is also there. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HMS_M33. I havent been aboard her
yet, but the whole place is well worth a visit.
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Good morning all -
Keith - how are the bees?
Inquiring minds want to know ;)
Kathy
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Looking
close at the webcam you can see the masts of HMS Warrior in the Royal
Naval Museum. Recently one of our ships, the M33 captained by the
one and only Bunts, is also there. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HMS_M33. I
havent been aboard her yet, but the whole place is well worth a visit.
Keith,
If you see the old girl before I do, give her a slap on the stern from me. ;)
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Much as I like to feel I'm really there when I'm transcribing, I
could do without this evening's "under fire" sound effects! Well, I
just hope the evening stays fine and clear and all the fireworks are
over with in one night! >:( >:( >:( Not that I'm a
killjoy or anything ...
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Not that I'm a killjoy or anything ...
Just a pet lover.
(For
overseas readers: 5th Nov. "Bonfire Night" with fireworks, to
commemorate Guy Fawkes failed attempt to blow up monarch &
parliament.)
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Not that I'm a killjoy or anything ...
Just a pet lover.
(For
overseas readers: 5th Nov. "Bonfire Night" with fireworks, to
commemorate Guy Fawkes failed attempt to blow up monarch &
parliament.)
Wait, you celebrate someone's attempt at blowing up the government? Sounds like a weird thing to celebrate...
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British humor?
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Not that I'm a killjoy or anything ...
Just a pet lover.
(For
overseas readers: 5th Nov. "Bonfire Night" with fireworks, to
commemorate Guy Fawkes failed attempt to blow up monarch &
parliament.)
Wait, you celebrate someone's attempt at blowing up the government? Sounds like a weird thing to celebrate...
As I understand it, we are celebrating the fact that he failed.
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Wait, you celebrate someone's attempt at blowing up the government? Sounds like a weird thing to celebrate...
As I understand it, we are celebrating the fact that he failed.
The
attack was not so much against the government, which was more a group
of "yes men" than what we think of as a government, but an attempt to
assassinate King James I (James VI of Scotland) in furtherance of
disagreement between supporters of the Roman Catholic church and the
protestant authorities, with the intention of acquiring a different
monarch who would return the country to the faith of their preference.
That was a very long sentence and, I hope, neutral in tone.
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Wait, you celebrate someone's attempt at blowing up the government? Sounds like a weird thing to celebrate...
As I understand it, we are celebrating the fact that he failed.
The
attack was not so much against the government, which was more a group
of "yes men" than what we think of as a government, but an attempt to
assassinate King James I (James VI of Scotland) in furtherance of
disagreement between supporters of the Roman Catholic church and the
protestant authorities, with the intention of acquiring a different
monarch who would return the country to the faith of their preference.
That was a very long sentence and, I hope, neutral in tone.
A
triumph of even handedness (and you even remembered that James I was
James VI before he was James I - which now I write it down is distinctly
odd - going backwards in number ....) :)
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Much
as I like to feel I'm really there when I'm transcribing, I could do
without this evening's "under fire" sound effects! Well, I just
hope the evening stays fine and clear and all the fireworks are over
with in one night! >:( >:( >:( Not that I'm a
killjoy or anything ...
Come
on over to my house and you can hear (and see a liitle bit) fireworks
every night at 9:30. Sometimes earlier if there's a special
occasion. Gotta love Disneyland.
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Much
as I like to feel I'm really there when I'm transcribing, I could do
without this evening's "under fire" sound effects! Well, I just
hope the evening stays fine and clear and all the fireworks are over
with in one night! >:( >:( >:( Not that I'm a
killjoy or anything ...
Come
on over to my house and you can hear (and see a liitle bit) fireworks
every night at 9:30. Sometimes earlier if there's a special
occasion. Gotta love Disneyland.
That's got to be annoying. :o
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A
triumph of even handedness (and you even remembered that James I was
James VI before he was James I - which now I write it down is distinctly
odd - going backwards in number ....) :)
Ta.
I try to placate my Scottish friends by assuring them that it was a promotion, from a mere James VI to the James I.
It is not always successful.
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Not that I'm a killjoy or anything ...
Just a pet lover.
(For
overseas readers: 5th Nov. "Bonfire Night" with fireworks, to
commemorate Guy Fawkes failed attempt to blow up monarch &
parliament.)
Wait, you celebrate someone's attempt at blowing up the government? Sounds like a weird thing to celebrate...
I
suppose some celebrate the attempt, some celebrate that it
failed... but most probably just like an excuse to have some
family fun! ;)
Re the fireworks... I'm afraid I'm with Bunts - we've 2 dogs here and they're really not liking the noises :'(
(I love the silent pretty ones, though! - anyone got a fireworks emoticon?!)
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More than you want to know ;D
Gunpowder Plot (http://encyclopedia.thefreedictionary.com/Gunpowder+Plot)
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(http://yoursmiles.org/tsmile/salut/t9307.gif) (http://yoursmiles.org/t-salut.php?page=)
and
you get used to it. When the stadium up the road (closer than
d-land) has fireworks, we go stand in the middle of the street and watch
it.
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8)
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I knew jenfurr would come up trumps ;)
(http://yoursmiles.org/tsmile/salut/t9307.gif) (http://yoursmiles.org/t-salut.php?page=)
and
you get used to it.* When the stadium up the road (closer than
d-land) has fireworks, we go stand in the middle of the street and watch
it.
Now that's a firework I can admire - and it hasn't disturbed the sleeping dog next to me ;D
(*Sadly, several dogs of my acquaintance have never got used to it... even after years)
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Now that's a firework I can admire - and it hasn't disturbed the sleeping dog next to me ;D
flo?
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...the sleeping dog next to me ;D
flo?
Where did that come from?! :o
Our
beloved lurcher Flo sadly died almost exactly 2 years ago (actually,
and appropriately for this forum, on 11.11) so we dog-sit for friends,
almost exclusively rescued/rehomed greyhounds & lurchers.
Currently, it's Suki: (http://i1000.photobucket.com/albums/af129/heffkit/IMG_6804-Sukithinking.jpg)
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...the sleeping dog next to me ;D
flo?
Where did that come from?! :o
Our
beloved lurcher Flo sadly died almost exactly 2 years ago (actually,
and appropriately for this forum, on 11.11) so we dog-sit for friends,
almost exclusively rescued/rehomed greyhounds & lurchers.
Currently, it's Suki: (http://i1000.photobucket.com/albums/af129/heffkit/IMG_6804-Sukithinking.jpg)
I clicked on one of your pictures here and it took me back to your photo album, which had pictures of her in it.
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What a beautiful dog. We used to foster Greyhounds.
Of course we were bad at it in the one fatal way. We kept failing
Fostering 101 by falling in love with and adopting our fosters.
It's hard to avoid. They're the sweetest animals.
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We have friends who until recently had 3 greyhounds, 2 lurchers & a whippet (and with 22 legs between them).
It
was just bliss visiting them!! Sadly, their latest greyhound - an
amazingly loving and gentle brindle girl - died of widespread cancer
recently. :'(
Most people just don't realise that they like to sleep about 18hrs a day. :)
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We have friends who until recently had 3 greyhounds, 2 lurchers & a whippet (and with 22 legs between them).
It
was just bliss visiting them!! Sadly, their latest greyhound - an
amazingly loving and gentle brindle girl - died of widespread cancer
recently. :'(
Most people just don't realise that they like to sleep about 18hrs a day. :)
One
of my coworkers has four greyhounds. They lead unfortunately
short lives though, as they're rescues from racetracks. But
whenever one dies, she adopts another one. Wonderful creatures!
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And now for something totally different -
The exhibition and
talk re the Anglo-Saxon Hoard at Nat Geo was very interesting - the
pieces, even though damaged are spectacular - and we only saw maybe 50,
if that many. The craftsmanship is amazing, especially considering
the lack of modern tools. One thing that was totally cool about
this stuff, is that you can see into the structure of the pieces
themselves because of the damage done to them. It seems that most
of the Hoard is sword and knife decorations and they were twisted and
bent and broken when removed from their blades. That has the
specialists really excited - no one will damage such a piece to look at
the structure, so to have it done already is a gift.
Anyway, if you get the chance, go see these pieces.
Kathy W.
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And now for something totally different -
The
exhibition and talk re the Anglo-Saxon Hoard at Nat Geo was very
interesting - the pieces, even though damaged are spectacular - and we
only saw maybe 50, if that many. The craftsmanship is amazing,
especially considering the lack of modern tools. One thing that
was totally cool about this stuff, is that you can see into the
structure of the pieces themselves because of the damage done to
them. It seems that most of the Hoard is sword and knife
decorations and they were twisted and bent and broken when removed from
their blades. That has the specialists really excited - no one
will damage such a piece to look at the structure, so to have it done
already is a gift.
Anyway, if you get the chance, go see these pieces.
Kathy W.
Glad
to hear it is worth seeing. I must get up to Birmingham some time soon.
The theory that it is victors's loot from a batllefield is gaining
popularity as they look into the individual pieces.
Thanks also
for asking about the bees. They seemed OK about a month ago when we put
them to bed for the winter. Having done that it has been so warm since
that they are still flying occasionally. We will have to check them and
possibly feed them a little more before it gets really cold.
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Relieved to hear that the bees are OK!
When we didn't get any response, I was afraid that something bad had happened.
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I am not able to visit OW as much as I used to, but all is well with the bees, or was when I last looked, thanks.
K
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Good morning OW. Glad to hear that the bees are OK.
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And good morning on this Armistice Day (UK).
Lest we forget.
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I've just been reading about the 'Thankful Villages' on the BBC news website.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-15671943
These
were villages where no-one was killed in the first World War. They have
identified 52 of them. Most of them kept very quiet about it at the
time because over the vast majority of the country they were mourning
their dead. Arthur Mee (he of Children's Encyclopedia fame) first
identified some of them when he noticed the absence of war memorials in
some villages he visited.
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This is Veterans Day in the US. Honoring all our dead.
(http://img.freebase.com/api/trans/image_thumb/wikipedia/images/commons_id/734516?maxheight=510&mode=fit&maxwidth=510)
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I've just been reading about the 'Thankful Villages' on the BBC news website.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-15671943
Thank you.
I
had just returned from my (adopted) local war memorial where, despite
an appreciable increase in "village" population between 1920 and 1939,
there are far more names from the Great War than from the Second World
War.
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Studentforever, thanks for posting the story about "thankful villages." So interesting!
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I had a hectic day at work today and came home late. Having
looked at the forum, suddenly realised I had missed thinking about the
Armistice during the day, so Googled it. Found this
(http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2060237/Remembrance-Day-2011-Britain-comes-standstill-Armistice-Day-observe-2-minute-silence.html)
- not my usual source of news, but the images are incredibly moving.
I'm sitting here in tears.
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Those pictures are a wonderful way of giving us all a feel of what
all of Britain was during those 2 minutes. Thank you for the link.
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Good morning OW. Another interesting item here: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-15645345
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Nice. I love the idea of this whole thing.
By
the way, Pat O'Keefe was British middleweight AND welterweight
champion. Fought for the title of light heavyweight champion of
the world but lost to the champ, Georges Carpentier. Just sayin'
because his introduction deserved more weight. :-\
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Those
pictures are a wonderful way of giving us all a feel of what all of
Britain was during those 2 minutes. Thank you for the link.
Just returned from 3 days away in Cranbrook in Kent (a town 50 miles SE of London, to those from abroad!).
On Sunday morning, we ended up going to nearby Bodiam Castle:
(http://i1000.photobucket.com/albums/af129/heffkit/IMAG0720.jpg)
It
was meant to open at 11, but the opening was delayed to observe the 2
minutes' silence in the unseasonably warm November sunshine.
A little
later, looking back from the castle towards the vineyard behind the
white weather-board clad ticket office, I noticed the vine supports
looked like crosses.
(http://i1000.photobucket.com/albums/af129/heffkit/IMAG0770.jpg)
It
reminded me of the WW1 war graves I saw years ago in NE France...
It ended up unexpectedly being a most moving experience.
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Boy, there's just no way to look at that and not think of war cemeteries. Sobering.
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As an ex brewer it is also good to see the oast houses on the horizon.
In fact from my point of view, perhaps the whole picture is a metaphor for the UK's drinking habits,and more.
I
bet the Oast houses are now converted into dwellings. The hillside
probably had a hop garden before the UK demand for hopped ales declined.
Now the hops have been grubbed out and grapes planted as more people are drinking wine in the UK.
Climate change has of course made the growing of grapes in that area more profitable.
Great photographs by the way, thank you.
K
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As an ex brewer it is also good to see the oast houses on the horizon.
In fact from my point of view, perhaps the whole picture is a metaphor for the UK's drinking habits,and more.
I
bet the Oast houses are now converted into dwellings. The hillside
probably had a hop garden before the UK demand for hopped ales declined.
Now the hops have been grubbed out and grapes planted as more people are drinking wine in the UK.
Climate change has of course made the growing of grapes in that area more profitable.
Great photographs by the way, thank you.
K
Thanks for the interesting reflection and kind comment, Tegwen. :)
The
setting at Bodiam reminded me of Stanley Spencer's pictures - 30's
buildings set in everyday home counties surroundings, but with a strange
hint of the transcendental...
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ahoy shipmates -
going to be sunny and cold! here today - the leaves are just about all gone from the trees - winter is on his way
hope everyone has a good day - TGIF!
Kathy W.
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;D
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HMS Cumberland 22 Jul 1918 Nth Atlantic
20+ knots, 10,000 tons, 460 ft, 14 x 6" guns, with convoy of (at least) 10 ships:
"proc'd round convoy speaking ships variously"
"Nice to see you. Just popped round for a chat ..."
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HMS Cumberland 26 Jul 1918 Nth Atlantic
"11.17 proc'd to rear of convoy & communicated with stragglers.
Took station 4 cables ahead of "Hova" (Commodore) & increased speed of convoy to 8 knots "
"Come on you chaps! Remember what I told you."
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BBC had an interesting story on a light festival in Durham, UK--it looks really lovely!
Did anyone get to see it in person?
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BBC had an interesting story on a light festival in Durham, UK--it looks really lovely!
Did anyone get to see it in person?
Your mention of it was the first I'd seen. Ta.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/local/wear/hi/people_and_places/newsid_8362000/8362106.stm
http://www.lumieredurham.co.uk/programme/
For every up there's a down:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-tyne-15787464
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Good morning all.
I would like to have seen the Durham Lumiere. It looks great. :D
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randi_2 - love your new avatar!!
Perfect for this endeavour :D
I had previously idly wondered whether 'ocd' ever came up in the weather codes... now I know ;D
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Thanks heffkit. I have seldom seen it, but when it appeared twice in
just a couple of days I decided I had to profit from it!
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Morning Randi, morning all.
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Morning Caro, morning all ;D
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Good morning OW. Awesome Google animation today for sci-fi fans. ;D
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The Google animation I see is a turkey, similar to ones we created
in Kindergarten (Thanksgiving is tomorrow) - can you take a
picture and/or describe what you are seeing?
Kathy
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Here is an explanation: http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2011/nov/23/google-doodle-stanislaw-lem-anniversary
Pics below. ;)
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extra!
Stanislaw Lem!
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Thanks heffkit. I have seldom seen it, but when it appeared twice in just a couple of days I decided I had to profit from it!
I'm now looking for a log with 100% cloud cover, mist, and a gale - that would also make a really cool avatar... ;)
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If I find it, I'll let you know ;D
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If I find it, I'll let you know ;D
Thanks, randi_2!
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Thanks heffkit. I have seldom seen it, but when it appeared twice in just a couple of days I decided I had to profit from it!
I'm now looking for a log with 100% cloud cover, mist, and a gale - that would also make a really cool avatar... ;)
g
= gloomy in the log directions page that I have, so it's not that
bizarre a combination. You'd really want it in capitals though,
wouldn't you?
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;D ;D ;D
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For and from all us Americans:
(https://www.t-mobilepictures.com/myalbum/photos/photo13/fd/e8/e3b7e1ade0d1__1322082578000.jpg)
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Ahh!
You beat me to it.
I was waiting until I turned in. Nevertheless:
Happy Thanksgiving to everyone involved.
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Good morning OW and a happy Thanksgiving to our American friends. :D
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Greetings from Uzbekistan ;)
Berwick made a little side trip on the way from Bermuda to Halifax.
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Greetings from Uzbekistan ;)
Berwick made a little side trip on the way from Bermuda to Halifax.
You've just crossed over.... into the twilight zone!
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Happy Thanksgiving to all our American Friends.
Have fun.
K
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I will not be cooking for a week! :P
Just wanted to say, when listing that for which I am thankful, Old Weather and you folks definitely rank right up there!
Now I'm about to slip into a tryptophan coma ;D
Thankfully yours -
Kathy W.
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Just wanted to say, when listing that for which I am thankful, Old Weather and you folks definitely rank right up there!
You are speaking for me too! :-* :-* :-*
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Just wanted to say, when listing that for which I am thankful, Old Weather and you folks definitely rank right up there!
Thankfully yours -
Kathy W.
Aww, that is so sweet.
Tx ! ;D
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Hope you all have a great time across the pond - I'll think of you as I settle down to sleep! :D
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Good morning all. A clear, bright morning here at last. :D
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Morning OW and Caro - weather is clear here as well :)
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It's raining cats and dogs here. For those unfamiliar with the term -
R
covers it. Water is lying on the fields and our local (tidal) river is
running high when the tide is in. The weather gods are not
spreading their largesse very fairly this year, we've got most of the
rain and the south east most of the sun.
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It's pouring here, too. It has been for days and
days. But the rain on the roof will make a nice soundtrack for
this year's tryptophan hibernation.
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A film of the book by Erskine Childers
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Erskine_Childers) is currently on
Film4, for anyone in the UK with Freeview, etc.
It is a spy
thriller set in 1901, and takes place mainly off the N German coast in
the run up to WW1 - if you want a (dramatised!) insight into offshore
activities of the epoch we are looking at, have a cuppa and tune
in! ;D
Otherwise, the book's great, too - in the best 'ripping yarns' tradition!
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Good morning OW.
There are many ships on 98% today. Volunteers for Victorian would be appreciated. ;)
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And good afternoon.
Here is some good news about a great ship: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-hampshire-15985321
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Think I'm talking to myself in here but...
Congratulations to heb29 who has passed the 100,000 mark.
Well done and thank you for your time and effort. :D
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It is only worrisome if you talk back! :P
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Well, as my g grandfather used to say, 'When you talk to yourself,
you are talking to the most sensible person around.'
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Think I'm talking to myself in here but...
Congratulations to heb29 who has passed the 100,000 mark.
Well done and thank you for your time and effort. :D
Hear, hear!! ;D
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Outstanding! That's an amazing accomplishment.
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Whoa. :o Lookithat! http://forum.oldweather.org/index.php
Today, we've been just one short of our record attendance online ... again.
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Whoa. :o Lookithat! http://forum.oldweather.org/index.php
Today, we've been just one short of our record attendance online ... again.
There's still time - don't anyone leave the forum ....
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Just a little news from my neck of the woods in Wisconsin, something
interesting has happen in my town (for once (we're a small town)). An
old lady stopping to fuel up her truck accidentally stepped on the gas
and rammed into the local McDonalds (the gas station and restaurant
share the same building). Nobody was sitting in the booth she
demolished, but 2 people were taken to the hospital. Here's the local
news report on it:
http://www.fox11online.com/dpp/news/local/green_bay/truck-crashes-into-restaurant?ref=scroller&categoryId=10001&status=true
Surprisingly, the restaurant is still open. People were using the drive through (as in the "other" drive through ;D ).
Not sure if this interests anybody, but I wanted to talk about it somewhere. :)
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Just
a little news from my neck of the woods in Wisconsin, something
interesting has happen in my town (for once (we're a small town)). An
old lady stopping to fuel up her truck accidentally stepped on the gas
and rammed into the local McDonalds (the gas station and restaurant
share the same building). Nobody was sitting in the booth she
demolished, but 2 people were taken to the hospital. Here's the local
news report on it:
http://www.fox11online.com/dpp/news/local/green_bay/truck-crashes-into-restaurant?ref=scroller&categoryId=10001&status=true
Surprisingly, the restaurant is still open. People were using the drive through (as in the "other" drive through ;D ).
Not sure if this interests anybody, but I wanted to talk about it somewhere. :)
Business is business, already.
Are you sure the little old lady isn't an animal rights activist?
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In a little town that size, even an activist wouldn't plow down her
neighbors and family - who would be the entire town. But it would
most certainly get everyone's attention.
I didn't know you were in the deep heart of Packers' country, Tastiger. Very, very pretty up there.
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In
a little town that size, even an activist wouldn't plow down her
neighbors and family - who would be the entire town. But it would
most certainly get everyone's attention.
I didn't know you were in the deep heart of Packers' country, Tastiger. Very, very pretty up there.
Well,
I wouldn't say that we're THAT small; we have a population of about
2,000 people. In fact, our school is usually the only school around here
that does stuff, so other schools come here all the time. ;D
But to add to your argument, her husband was in the passenger's seat, and I doubt an activist would put her husband in danger.
Yes,
it is pretty up here (it's better in door county, though). It's amazing
how crazy some people get here during Packer's season, though. ;D
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But to add to your argument, her husband was in the passenger's seat, and I doubt an activist would put her husband in danger.
<Cough><Choke><Splutter>
You haven't met Mrs B.
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Noooo, but we would like to.
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I do not wish to imply that Mrs B. was the inspiration for the
saying: "Anticipation is infinitely superior to realisation." but if she
were, I should not be surprised.
Not to mention: "Be careful what you wish for!"
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oh boy, do we ever!!!!!!
;D
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Yeah, we're just about one beer from hiring a private detective to find her so we can meet her.
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Brilliant thread - you've just no idea wht thoughts are going through my mind here... ;D ;D
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But to add to your argument, her husband was in the passenger's seat, and I doubt an activist would put her husband in danger.
<Cough><Choke><Splutter>
You haven't met Mrs B.
Hummm, sounds to me like someone has a guilty conscience ;)
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Yeah, we're just about one beer from hiring a private detective to find her so we can meet her.
Here you go, she's put her photo (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:HobgoblinBeer.jpg) on the front.
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Does she know how you talk about her? :o
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But to add to your argument, her husband was in the passenger's seat, and I doubt an activist would put her husband in danger.
<Cough><Choke><Splutter>
You haven't met Mrs B.
Hummm, sounds to me like someone has a guilty conscience ;)
Yeah, we're just about one beer from hiring a private detective to find her so we can meet her.
Here you go, she's put her photo (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:HobgoblinBeer.jpg) on the front.
... or someone with a deathwish ::)
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Does she know how you talk about her? :o
Of course, but she's very forgiving forgetful.
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I just realized something. This will be the first non-Galaxy Zoo project to "finish". ;D
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That is cool! I hadn't figured that out yet! ;D
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Good morning all.
It's Old Weather day on the Zooniverse advent calendar (https://www.zooniverse.org/advent). ;D
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...and see Caro's Lunar Tadpole for the 3'rd.
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Good morning all.
It's Old Weather day on the Zooniverse advent calendar (https://www.zooniverse.org/advent). ;D
Woooo - that is great!
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Yup, I always wanted to have a tadpole named after me. ;)
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ok - who here thinks the movie War Horse is a 5 hankie tear jerker?
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ok - who here thinks the movie War Horse is a 5 hankie tear jerker?
From what I have heard (even though I tried not to) it's more like a 5 bed-sheet oeuvre.
One that I shall avoid like the plague (or Titanic).
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humm - I don't get THAT at all (unless what you are saying does not
mean what I think it means ;D )- the movie is based on a
children's book - in the book, the story is told from the horse's point
of view.
The wiki article makes a point that I feel is
important - here in the States, WWI is often forgotten - hopefully, the
movie will change that.
ta -
Kathy
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humm
- I don't get THAT at all (unless what you are saying does not mean
what I think it means ;D )- the movie is based on a children's
book - in the book, the story is told from the horse's point of
view.
The wiki article makes a point that I feel is
important - here in the States, WWI is often forgotten - hopefully, the
movie will change that.
ta -
Kathy
I heard an interview with Michael Morpurgo.
I
remembered a story (Black Beauty?) that dealt with a horse's decline in
social status (similar to a car's progress from showroom splendour to
pile of rust). I know more than enough of horses' treatment in WWI.
Troops had little more choice in the matter but they did have guns.
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Good morning OW.
Thanks to everybody helping to finish the 'old' logs. ;)
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Good morning all.
It's Old Weather day on the Zooniverse advent calendar (https://www.zooniverse.org/advent). ;D
And it's OW day again today (8th) - does anyone recognize the ship?
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The caption on the blog page says HMS Ben-my-Chree. :)
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While things were pretty austere in the years after WWI, the
Atlantic Fleet could still afford fuel oil and ammunition for regular
exercises. But was ink so expensive that they had to water down
their existing supplies? I'm going bonkers this morning trying to
read some of these whispy entries.
bleat ...
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It's good for your character. ;D
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While
things were pretty austere in the years after WWI, the Atlantic Fleet
could still afford fuel oil and ammunition for regular exercises.
But was ink so expensive that they had to water down their existing
supplies? I'm going bonkers this morning trying to read some of
these whispy entries.
bleat ...
It's not just Atlantic, or post-war - see Aphis (in 1916)...
...they obviously didn't iron the lemon juice enough!
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Hope all our transcribers in Scotland and the north of England have
recovered from yesterday's storm - saw some pictures of the damage on
the BBC website and it looks pretty bad. So hope you are all OK.
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WOW! :o :o
Hope everybody is ok -
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We got off pretty lightly in the village. No trees down and just a
few things blown about. Lots of events got cancelled though and the rail
services were pretty patchy and in some cases replaced by buses.
All the ferries were off and the lifeboats ferried one or two people
over to the mainland for hospital treatment. Our local bridge,
Erskine, was closed for most of the day, I assume that people diverted
to the Clyde Tunnel or did what I did and stayed at home.
Thanks for
your concern. At least no-one seems to have been killed although there
were a few lucky escapes and lots of disruption.
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Glad to hear you are OK, studentforever. Hope things are back to normal now.
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Yes thanks, we even had some sun this afternoon between the showers.
There
are still people without power further north in the Highlands. It takes
a long time to get engineers out to the sites where the cables are
damaged, especially when there was snow and flooded roads but they hope
to get everyone back on line tomorrow. Apparently it was the worst
storm in Glasgow since 1968, but then 20 people died so this one was
less destructive.
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It is sooo nice to get days in succession ....
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Apparently there are still a few hundred people without power in
Scotland but they expect to have them back on the grid by tonight.
They are using helicopters to reach the really difficult spots and to
see where another gale might produce produce problems. It isn't
that cold at the moment so that's good.
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Someone told me there are more gales forecast for Scotland later this week - hope that turns out not to be the case.
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For a while I thought that the OOW on the Carnarvon was a sadist who just knew that
someone, some day might want to read his logs and would therefore give
them an optical challenge. Compared with the OOW on the Grafton,
the Carnarvon man was a veritable Prince of calligraphy. Our man
on the Grafton is utterly demented. He's probably sitting
somewhere in heaven, looking down on us and chuckling 'You want to do what with my logs? You silly people.'
Aaaaaargh !
A weeping Steeleye
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For a while I thought that the OOW on the Carnarvon was a sadist who just knew that
someone, some day might want to read his logs and would therefore give
them an optical challenge. Compared with the OOW on the Grafton,
the Carnarvon man was a veritable Prince of calligraphy. Our man
on the Grafton is utterly demented. He's probably sitting
somewhere in heaven, looking down on us and chuckling 'You want to do what with my logs? You silly people.'
Aaaaaargh !
A weeping Steeleye
oh you can't give a speech like that and NOT include the offending page! cough it up! :D
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Here is the place for it ;D
Contest - Least Readable Handwriting (http://forum.oldweather.org/index.php?topic=1468.0)
We also have:
Contest - Most Readable Handwriting (http://forum.oldweather.org/index.php?topic=1467.msg15827#msg15827)
Contest
- Most Beautiful Handwriting
(http://forum.oldweather.org/index.php?topic=1466.msg15826#msg15826)
(which may not be the most readable ;))
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Hah!! If only it was 'a page' Jennfurr. I have done 5
pages, and every one is identical. The numbers are slow going, but
readable. At least half the wind directions are pretty much a
guess (only slightly inspired). I think the main port so far is
Stavros. I can recognise 'Weighed', 'Procd' and a couple of other
common words, but most of the Comments column may as well be written in
Cyrillic Cantonese. It is perhaps noteworthy that several
transcribers have done a total of 7 observations (one page) and then
departed for greener pastures ... or bluer seas.
Rant over ... let the games begin.
Cheers
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heh... cyrillic cantonese. I'll have to remember that one!
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... and you asked for it: here's part of a page, just for your entertainment!
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my friends, I come before you today a broken and bitter
woman...cursing the (football) gods and fate itself. The stinkin'
Giants beat the Cowboys last night. <heavy sigh> It is
a bitter pill indeed.
:'(
Kathy
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Hah!!
If only it was 'a page' Jennfurr. I have done 5 pages, and every
one is identical. The numbers are slow going, but readable.
At least half the wind directions are pretty much a guess (only slightly
inspired). I think the main port so far is Stavros. I can
recognise 'Weighed', 'Procd' and a couple of other common words, but
most of the Comments column may as well be written in Cyrillic
Cantonese. It is perhaps noteworthy that several transcribers have
done a total of 7 observations (one page) and then departed for greener
pastures ... or bluer seas.
Rant over ... let the games begin.
Cheers
And
I confess all - I was one of the transcribers! One page was
enough when there seemed to be lots of shiny new ships to play with -
but perhaps I'll come back once I've finished Minerva and Britannia and
perhaps Canterbury (which is fairly clear but extremely dull).
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Helen,
My disillusionment is complete! Here I was,
thinking that Hero member status equated with transcribing
masochism. I expect your contribution to increase beyond 7 before
too much longer.
Cheers,
Steeleye
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Helen,
My
disillusionment is complete! Here I was, thinking that Hero
member status equated with transcribing masochism. I expect your
contribution to increase beyond 7 before too much longer.
Cheers,
Steeleye
In
my defence, I did do a lot of Patuca (years of original logs, six
different handwritings a day) - but it was at least visible on the
whole! I promise to come back to Grafton once I've seen Minerva
finished - but only along with some other ship! I need to stay
sane ...
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This Grafton sounds like a thursdaynext sort of a ship ... please don't try to lure me away from the old ships before they are finished, with your promises of illegible logs! >:(
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This Grafton sounds like a thursdaynext sort of a ship ... please don't try to lure me away from the old ships before they are finished, with your promises of illegible logs! >:(
I
suspect there'll be plenty of Grafton left - we can't have very long to
go on the final three ships, not with all the people piling on board to
finish them off!
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Helen,
An indication of the level of 'fun' that Grafton
provides is that you are still hanging on to your 'top ten' status on
the basis of 7 weather obs!
Cheers,
Steeleye
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Good morning OW. Minerva is the only ship left to finish from the first fleet. Just sayin'. :D
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To the finished Minerva and all Phase I!
(http://www.smileyvault.com/albums/userpics/11863/Champagnebubbels.gif)
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After the rush to finish the Phase I ships,
I foresee OW Transcribing (individual and teams) as a future Olympic sport!
Naturally, when another competitor asks for help, everyone will stop what they are doing to search for the answer ;)
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my
friends, I come before you today a broken and bitter woman...cursing
the (football) gods and fate itself. The stinkin' Giants beat the
Cowboys last night. <heavy sigh> It is a bitter pill
indeed.
:'(
Kathy
:(
I apologize for enjoying that game so much, but you see, I started Eli
on my fantasy team. I have several friends who are Cowboy fans,
and they've been pretty grumbly this week. As a Seahawk fan, I
know of this grumbling. Oh how I've grumbled.
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After the rush to finish the Phase I ships,
I foresee OW Transcribing (individual and teams) as a future Olympic sport!
Naturally, when another competitor asks for help, everyone will stop what they are doing to search for the answer ;)
I think I know who would win the individual event. ;)
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Changing the subject somewhat ... sooner or later, some poor
shnookums are going to have to join us stalwart types on the Good Ship
Venu ... sorry, 'Grafton'. Rest assured that you will enjoy your
time aboard immensely - much as the less law-abiding citizens enjoyed
their time on prison hulks on the River Thames in the 18th Century
(before it was decided that an extended holiday in the sunny Antipodes
was a better way of keeping those social undesirables out of
sight/mind).
After about a week, and 400 weather obs, on the
aforesaid vessel, I have come to several conclusions that might ease the
passage on board for newcomers:
1) Unless the RN suddenly
entrusts the Grafton with some serious naval work, you can probably
forget the 'comments' column, except to give it a quick scan after
completing the weather obs. The most exciting comments (that are
legible) are that the vessels Picton, Redbreast and
something-that-ends-in 'fell' regularly arrive and depart again.
The Grafton's existence is so tedious that I am beginning to think that
coaling and Divine Services are noteworthy events. I can at least
enter them with some measure of confidence.
2) After
two-and-a-half months I am yet to see a single lat/long, although I
think she is in the Ithaca area of Greece. Most of the time she is
in Stavros (although this is still a bit of a guess). Every few
days she goes to somewhere which looks like Chai Linghizi, probably for
firing practice. I have tried innumerable combinations of letters
that look like Chai Linghizi, but google is completely unimpressed with
all my efforts. I am hopeful that she will eventually go somewhere
that the OOW is able to write legibly. I will then have to go
back and edit a large number of logs.
3) The OOW likes to
write many of his numbers in the style of 'running writing' - ie he
joins his numbers together. This can be fun. He is also in
the habit of varying his writing pressure on every number, so that some
parts of a number can be almost invisible. This is also fun.
4)
Once you get used to his style (and I use the term loosely) it is
possible to read most of his wind directions. However, the
addition of 'by', which is joined to the letters before and after, can
render some directions meaningless.
On the other hand, 'Grafton'
at the top of each page is quite clear. Most unfortunate that we
don't get to input that as one of our parameters.
Come and join
us aboard, me hearties, and we will splice the mainbrace when all is
done (just before the Men in White Coats come to collect us.
Cheers,
Steeleye ;D
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You do make it sound tempting ;D
I've started Blenheim, but I'll keep Grafton in mind...
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I think the mystery ship is .... Snaefell (http://forum.oldweather.org/index.php?topic=1693.msg20062#msg20062). ;)
And possibly Grafton is at Stavros in Crete. Stavros in Ithaca is not directly reachable by ship.
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Hmmm ... have to check this one out in the morning (it's
getting a bit late down here). I found references on Grafton to a
lighthouse and an island, which I then tracked down to the islands near
Ithaca. Looking at the map, it seems that the Grafton would need
trainer wheels to actually anchor at Stavros. However, it seems
that Stavros is only a bit more than 1 km from a bay on the west coast
of Ithaca. Maybe the OOW considered that was close enough.
Snaefell looks a good bet.
The plot thickens ... and so is my brain at this hour. More anon.
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Ah, Steeleye!
My sympathies on the state of the Grafton's
logs. We've probably each had exposure to logkeepers whose
handwriting eventually made us jump ship, and ships whose activities
were so mind-numbingly dull as to make the transcriber no longer
care... Even more infuriating is transcribing page after page
after page of NOTHING, only to stop for the night and upon visiting OW
the next day, finding the next transcriber posting something fascinating
about a battle or an incident, that if you'd done even a few more
pages, you might have gotten to see. But alas, you find that
you've jumped ahead in time, and it's back to the doldrums.
However, you made me laugh out loud with your description... Thank you for posting!
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By George, I think you've got it - I have done 3 pages on the
Grafton - I think I'll save it for when I feel my soul needs some
edification ;D
Kathy
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Steeleye,
You are doubtless aware of the saying "Cometh the hour, cometh the man".
You are clearly the living proof of it.
Nil Carborundum!
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I've obviously done some of the same pages as Steeleye on the
Grafton. I agree that it's the Snaefell. I can't agree that
the Grafton is dull, though! That's not firing practice -
that's firing at enemy positions and an enemy transport. I can't
read the "Chai Linghizi" name either - looks a bit Turkish though.
I
don't think the problem is entirely the writing. It is as much
the quality of the scan. I have put most of the pages I've done
into PhotoStudio, then decreased the brightness and increased the
contrast. It's laborious, but you can get a much better
transcription.
So I am now faced with my frequent dilemma - I
love the challenge of "difficult" logs, but I hate to slip down the OW
rankings because it is slow work to do it properly!
But no way
should we be "forgetting the Comments column" - OK, the weather is the
most important thing, but recording the events is part of the project
too!
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Steeleye,
You are doubtless aware of the saying "Cometh the hour, cometh the man".
You are clearly the living proof of it.
Nil Carborundum!
And the woman if you don't mind!
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Steeleye,
You are doubtless aware of the saying "Cometh the hour, cometh the man".
You are clearly the living proof of it.
Nil Carborundum!
And the woman if you don't mind!
OK, as you insist:
"Don't let the woman grind you down." ;)
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::)
Oh, I give up!
But it should have been "Cometh the hour, cometh the women" as Caro is working on the Grafton too!
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And I - ;D
I agree - it is not the handwriting so much as it is the scan -
I think it is Snaefell also -
Kathy
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::)
Oh, I give up!
But it should have been "Cometh the hour, cometh the women" as Caro is working on the Grafton too!
And,
as promised to Steeleye, I'm back on board too, and screwing up my eyes
with you all. I think it's a combination of the writing and the
scan. It seems to help to sit well back from the screen - though
I'm in danger of running out of arm!
Has anyone else on Grafton
come across a couple of ships identified only by number - I found what I
think is No 32 and No 28. Any idea what these might have meant?
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They are M28 and M32 - I think they are Monitors. There are a few other M's around as well.
Might
be worth looking up Janet's post on how to deal with faded ink as the
same principle applies - saves screwing up the eyes too much!
Also
I would suggest that from now on we start a new thread specially for
the Grafton so that we can all put our comments and queries in the same
place.
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I've just started such a thread - 'HMS Grafton support desk', under ships, battles and people.
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Very good idea. I only glanced at it, but I can see it could benefit from something of a user's manual.
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Morning all. Bit snowy around here.
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Morning OW - very damp here, rained most of the night but has eased off now.
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'evening OWers - no rain here, but a bit damp, and I believe the
coldest start to a summer for ~40 years. It's struggling to get to
about 23C most days (but I'm not complaining).
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Very wise of you not to complain Steeleye. We are expecting a maximum of 3C. :)
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Tops of 23-27C here for the next week - about 5C less than usual for this time of year (exxxcellent).
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Snow here. Looks lovely at the moment but I think it will turn
slushy later. We've got frost forecast for tonight so it could be
fun. ;D
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we have been having a touch of spring here - today it should be colder :D
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It's Old Weather day on the advent calendar again today (16
December). This time it's interactive - an Old Weather crossword,
where the answers are all names of the ships. 8)
https://www.zooniverse.org/advent
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More ways to feed our addiction!
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I would argue with 3 down and 15 down! >:( ;)
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I couldn't get 3 down so I dunno (I'm not familiar with all the
names). I agree with you about 15 down though - it was the leader
of the ships that went out against the armada! Took me ages to realise. ::)
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I'm guessing that it was Goliath who was no match for David.
There is only space for four letters though. :-\
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Well, Goliath was my first thought too. Maybe the crossword
setter's got a mate called David who had a to-do with someone and came
off better. ;D
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Or, David fought a really big Gnat?
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Or he got spit at by a really big Lama ? ;D
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I agree about 3 down and 15 down. And I think there's a bit of
a mis-spelling going on with 14 down, though they could have made a
cryptic clue out of it and added "we hear" at the end.
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Yes, I'm stuck on 3 down too. Has everyone got 'Alert' for 6
across, thus giving an 'a' in third place? If not, it could I
suppose be 'Gath' which is where Goliath came from, though the clue
doesn't really work well with that ...
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I gave up on 3 down and checked the solution, though I am mystified
as to what the answer has to do with David! "Alert" is definitely
correct.
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oh Deej -
It has taken all week for the sting to pass - really? you and Eli? <heavy sigh>
My
fantasy lineup (The Rangers, in the Potomac Valley League) is as
follows: Tony Romo, QB; Jason Witten, TE; Dallas, D/ST; Miles
Austin, WR, L. Robinson, WR, Dan Bailey, K...well, as you can see, there
is a pattern ;D My dream is to have Demarco Murray and Felix
Jones next year (and keep the above) and field an entire Dallas fantasy
team.
Go Redskins!
Kathy
(I hope you are doing well in your fantasy league, but Eli? really? :P )
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I didn't mean for it to happen, Kathy. I started the
season with Schaub! :( Anyway, Eli's gone now. I
didn't make the playoffs in that league. And tonight MY three
cowboys didn't help me much in one of my other two leagues. Miles
(11) + Robinson (8) + Bailey (7) = 26 = one and out in the playoffs.
Doesn't your season pretty much go the same way Dallas' season goes? That's a lot of Cowboys on that thar team.
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True, but I just can't help myself when draft time comes - been a
Cowboy all my life and also, the players are really quite good!, but
yes, my fortunes rise and fall with the 'Boys - I have drafted
teams for others that have won our league ;D,
but for me, got to have them ;)
Kathy
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I really want more ships, but I REALLY want GOOD scans :'(
Even those that are more or less correct, like Blenheim, aren't exactly good.
:-* :-* :-*
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I second that!
I have serious doubts about how accurate the
weather data will be from the Grafton. When you enhance the image a
load of 1's miraculously turn into 7's. If it were up to me I'd
reject the data, tell whoever did the job it wasn't good enough and get
them to scan all the books again properly this time!
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I don't have as much confidence as I would like to have in some of my transcriptions from Blenheim either - fortunately, most of the writing is not too bad.
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I really hope that all the second batch haven't been scanned like
the ones we've already had - I wonder what changed between the first and
second lot of scanning?
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Based on the document scanning system where I used to work, I would
guess they set the machine up and scanned the whole lot without checking
the first couple of scans to see if they had a decent quality, or if
the settings needed adjustment. The settings to scan in a printed
document would not be the same as were needed for a handwritten letter
using blue ink - and a century-old document would need different
settings again. So my guess is done this time by a person or
persons who didn't take enough care to do the job properly.
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The thing to know is these ships should be our only challenge of
that kind. They've developed a way to detect bad scans on import,
so this shouldn't be happening again. I know it's a pain, but we
just have to get through these twelve as best we can. Then it'll
be smooth sailing. Pun intended.
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Thanks Deej, that's really encouraging. I had visions of this kind of scans extending for months and months.
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Ooooh my, those aren't happy visions. :)
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Good morning my friends. Very frosty here!
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Good evening Caro from t'other end of the planet with completely cockeyed weather.
Here
in Canberra, behind me the sun is setting through showers of
rain. Yesterday in Tasmania strong winds were fanning bushfires
(today it's been raining there), while half-way between us they had some
rather heavy rain in Victoria (including 90mm in 20 minutes yesterday
at a place called Hall's Gap). The weather is all over the place
(just like Lt Cmdr R.R. Gore-Browne's wretched handwriting).
Cheers
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Hiya Steeleye. That is odd weather for the time of year, except for the bushfire part.
Still, it's better than a centimetre of frost on your windscreen.
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... not if your car's floating away. That rain at Hall's
Gap equates to an inch every 6 minutes - you could probably drown while
standing upright.
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...
not if your car's floating away. That rain at Hall's Gap equates
to an inch every 6 minutes - you could probably drown while standing
upright.
I
stayed in Hall's Gap a few weeks ago, the guide warned us that if they
got over an inch of rain in 24 hours we would have to evacuate. It was
because there had been land slides just before we stayed there, really
nice place though! ;D
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I wonder if the people who did the scans are descendents of some of our log keepers ::)
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;D
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How come HMS Liverpool is only 13% complete? The handwriting is immaculate! Not fair!
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How come HMS Liverpool is only 13% complete? The handwriting is immaculate! Not fair!
The magnifier doesn't work... :(
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That explains it! The writing is so good, the magnifier is
almost redundant. I bet there's a rush to get on board when it's
fixed.
;D
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I wonder if the people who did the scans are descendents of some of our log keepers ::)
;D
Bad girl!
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I can't do Liverpool. Not a ship for people with eyesight issues.
Hey, check out the latest cocktail recipes!
http://blogs.zooniverse.org/blog/2011/12/20/zooniverse-cocktail-hour/
Personally, my favorite OW inspired drink is:
The Lost Overboard
2 fingers Jack Daniels
1 finger Everclear
One small wrench, rusty
Pour
the Jack, float the Everclear and drop the wrench right into the middle
of it. Also know as The Idiot because it's just fun to slur the
words "Gimme an Idiot!"
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Morning all.
Storm in a Teacup sounds OK, if you leave the gin out.
Must experiment with substitutes. ;)
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Morning all.
Storm in a Teacup sounds OK, if you leave the gin out.
Must experiment with substitutes. ;)
Personally I'd leave out the tea .... ;)
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Personally I'd leave out the tea .... ;)
I second that.
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;D ;D ;D
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Good morning OW. Storm in a Teacup anyone?
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I'm having to readjust to clicking on the line I want to transcribe rather than above it ::)
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I'm having to readjust to clicking on the line I want to transcribe rather than above it ::)
Yes, me too! Though it's an adjustment I'm happy to make :D
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Just past midnight here in eastern Oz, so I'd just like to get in
(possibly) first and wish all OWers a very Merry Christmas. May
all your handwriting be neat and may all your pages have perfect shade
and contrast. What more could we wish for?
Cheers,
Steeleye
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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I'm having to readjust to clicking on the line I want to transcribe rather than above it ::)
You're lucky.
On
HMS Liverpool, we have to click 2 or 3 rows above the data to get the
useless magnifer; then move it to enter data, then move it again after
entering. Except at the heading where it's "spot on", and sometimes in
"Remarks" when it appears where you point. ::)
Like the city, the logs are difficult to predict.
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Correct magnification and good handwriting. 7'th heaven!
Pages a little light in Firefox, but not really a problem - I open the jpeg in Chrome just in case....
I'm soooo happy that I transcribed ALL events on the first page ;)
(I
find that over the past year I have started to transcribe more and more
events - especially since I started with Firefox and don't have to
retype everything.)
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Just
past midnight here in eastern Oz, so I'd just like to get in (possibly)
first and wish all OWers a very Merry Christmas. May all your
handwriting be neat and may all your pages have perfect shade and
contrast. What more could we wish for?
Cheers,
Steeleye
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Thank you Steeleye - you too!
(correct magnification + world peace --- not necessarily in that order ;))
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Just
past midnight here in eastern Oz, so I'd just like to get in (possibly)
first and wish all OWers a very Merry Christmas. May all your
handwriting be neat and may all your pages have perfect shade and
contrast. What more could we wish for?
Cheers,
Steeleye
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Ho Ho Ho.
Funny
you should mention that. I'd just been checking where Father Christmas
(http://www.google.com/landing/noradsanta/index.html#utm_campaign=en&utm_medium=hpp&utm_source=en-hpp-emea-gb-gns-gm&utm_term=norad)
is up to.
Happy Christmas from the old country. ;D
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And a Merry Christmas from me as well - safely ensconced at my
sister's place with a pint of bitter in hand and lots of nibbles.
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Wishing everyone a Cool Yule! 8) 8) 8)
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A very happy Christmas and New Year to you all.
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A very joyful Christmas to all members of OW - and may all your scans be perfect!
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A Blessed Holiday to Us All! 8) 8) 8)
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Off to midnight mass, so - Merry Christmas from me.
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And a very Merry Christmas from me and my family to all of my OW family!
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I hope everyone has a great holiday and gets what they asked for - I
myself am now the proud owner of 1 share of stock in the Green Bay
Packers - my dream come true!! :o 8)
Kathy
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Merry Christmas to you all!!! :)
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Merry Christmas!
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Merry Christmas everyone! ;D
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Merry Christmas to all
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Merry Christmas everyone! ;D
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Merry Christmas ! ;D
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I
hope everyone has a great holiday and gets what they asked for - I
myself am now the proud owner of 1 share of stock in the Green Bay
Packers - my dream come true!! :o 8)
Kathy
That
is indeed good news - I didn't realise that you had an interest in the
technology involved in the packaging industry. Very fulfilling, I
imagine.
;D
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:P
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I
hope everyone has a great holiday and gets what they asked for - I
myself am now the proud owner of 1 share of stock in the Green Bay
Packers - my dream come true!! :o 8)
Kathy
I thought you were in Texas. (Or am I mixing you up with someone else?) Whatcha doing with a stock in my team? :P
Merry Christmas and congrats on your soon to be very profitable stock! ;D
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I'm not in Texas, but I was born Dallas - I love football, and so my
husband got me a share of the Packers for Christmas - if I could have a
share of the Cowboys, I would!
Also the Saints (I grew up in
Louisiana), and Detroit (my dad was born there - combination of lack of
jobs in Texas and the Depression)
Post-season is going to drive me crazy! ;D
Kathy
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Enjoy it while you can, because just a few more weeks and the season will be over, ushering in "the dark times". :'(
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Good morning Old Weather for the last time in 2011.
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The fireworks have just disturbed my sleep, so it must be a new
year. Welcome to the first logging session of 2012 shipmates!
Posn: 35 16' 58.9" S 149 07' 28.3" E
E
by N 2 b 30.06 64
59 n/a Course & speed as req'd for my
bunk.
(n/a - no seawater here)
OW addiction ? Moi ?
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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The
fireworks have just disturbed my sleep, so it must be a new year.
Welcome to the first logging session of 2012 shipmates!
Posn: 35 16' 58.9" S 149 07' 28.3" E
E
by N 2 b 30.06 64
59 n/a Course & speed as req'd for my
bunk.
(n/a - no seawater here)
OW addiction ? Moi ?
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
;D
Glad you're not in Samoa? You'd have lost a day's transcribing time.
Oh!
Happy New Year!
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Deej -
I know! The Dark Time indeed - my fantasy league is
giving me grief (including my husband, I might add) about my plan for
next year - oh, well... ;D
I hope everyone of us has a 2012 (I first wrote 1912 ;D) worth remembering -
ta -
Kathy
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Here in Provence it is considered bad luck to wish someone Happy New
Year before the new year has begun. Instead, you say "Bon bout d'an"
--- good year end.
The Old Weather BOINC team is having a good year end too!
We are still, with a few minor exceptions, going up the ratings.
Thanks
to 3 new team members (tastiger, Giulio, and the mysterious Forrest)
this month, we have a good chance of continuing to progress.
I have updated our statistics here: http://forum.oldweather.org/index.php?topic=2028.msg26572#msg26572
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Here
in Provence it is considered bad luck to wish someone Happy New Year
before the new year has begun. Instead, you say "Bon bout d'an" --- good
year end.
I have sympathy with the principle (except for the "bad luck" part) but Steeleye has already arrived there.
So ... it's Happy New Year to him but not to you :P yet.
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I thought the Scots considered it bad luck as well? And you
are supposed to say "Happy New Year when it comes" until we actually get
there? So to be on the safe side I shall wait till tomorrow!
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I
thought the Scots considered it bad luck as well? And you are
supposed to say "Happy New Year when it comes" until we actually get
there? So to be on the safe side I shall wait till tomorrow!
Yes,
that's right about the Scots - I've only managed to wish a New
Zealander a good new year so far, as he's already arrived there.
Everyone else will have to wait!
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Ladies and gentlemen - I have an announcement to make!
I have just transcribed my 5000th log page!
I realize this is small beer to many of you here, but it's quite a milestone to me ;D
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Congratulations, Captain! 5000 pages are not to be sniffed at -
especially if a lot of them have been on the northern patrol.
:D
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Ladies and gentlemen - I have an announcement to make!
I have just transcribed my 5000th log page!
I realize this is small beer to many of you here, but it's quite a milestone to me ;D
Well Done, you! :)
I wondered how you'd worked that out but checked around before revealing my ignorance. Thank you for furthering my knowledge.
Erm, helenj, you know what you were saying ... ;D
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Congratulations
thursdaynext! Congratulations thursdaynext! Congratulations
thursdaynext! Congratulations thursdaynext! Congratulations
thursdaynext! Congratulations thursdaynext! Congratulations
thursdaynext! Congratulations thursdaynext!
(it's FAR more than I have done)
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I am in awe of your accomplishment -
Sail On!
Kathy
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2012 Here!
(I'm off to bed....)
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2012 Here!
(I'm off to bed....)
OK then; Happy New Year! ;D
(Sorry, forgot to set my alarm.)
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Happpy New Year
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Ladies and gentlemen - I have an announcement to make!
I have just transcribed my 5000th log page!
I realize this is small beer to many of you here, but it's quite a milestone to me ;D
Hats off, to thursdaynext!
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Happy New Year!!!!
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Happy Greenwich Mean Time New Year!
The London fireworks were really quite good ... by London standards.