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Title: Bear (1886) -- Discussion: Questions, Comments and Coordination
Post by: Randi on April 12, 2018, 06:39:48 pm
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http://research.archives.gov/description/6919206     May (https://catalog.archives.gov/OpaAPI/media/6919206/content/arcmedia/dc-metro/rg-026/585454-noaa/bear/vol065/26-159A-bear-vol065_002.jpg)
June (https://catalog.archives.gov/OpaAPI/media/6919206/content/arcmedia/dc-metro/rg-026/585454-noaa/bear/vol065/26-159A-bear-vol065_035.jpg)
July (https://catalog.archives.gov/OpaAPI/media/6919206/content/arcmedia/dc-metro/rg-026/585454-noaa/bear/vol065/26-159A-bear-vol065_065.jpg)
August (https://catalog.archives.gov/OpaAPI/media/6919206/content/arcmedia/dc-metro/rg-026/585454-noaa/bear/vol065/26-159A-bear-vol065_096.jpg)
September      (https://catalog.archives.gov/OpaAPI/media/6919206/content/arcmedia/dc-metro/rg-026/585454-noaa/bear/vol065/26-159A-bear-vol065_127.jpg)
October (https://catalog.archives.gov/OpaAPI/media/6919206/content/arcmedia/dc-metro/rg-026/585454-noaa/bear/vol065/26-159A-bear-vol065_157.jpg)
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Thanks to Hurlock!
 

Voyage (https://drive.google.com/open?id=1-fEwMZu0axrelkgo-TMoplSIsj0Nz0yL)
Title: Re: Bear (1886) -- Discussion: Questions, Comments and Coordination
Post by: Randi on April 12, 2018, 06:41:08 pm
Ice Hunting Guide (http://forum.oldweather.org/index.php?topic=4690.0)
Using the Tracker for Ice Hunting (Provisional) (http://forum.oldweather.org/index.php?topic=4821.0)
Ask Questions Here (http://forum.oldweather.org/index.php?topic=4826.0)
Note: Currently we only want the months that have a green or yellow stripe on the month tab in the Tracker and only one transcription is required per page.
 
 

OW web site: Bear (https://sites.google.com/view/owfaq/ships/shipyard/bear)

Direct links
Title: Re: Bear (1886) -- Discussion: Questions, Comments and Coordination
Post by: Joke Slayer on April 14, 2018, 05:16:01 am
I'll make a start on May
Title: Re: Bear (1886) -- Discussion: Questions, Comments and Coordination
Post by: Michael on April 14, 2018, 09:04:48 am
 :) :) :)
Title: Re: Bear (1886) -- Discussion: Questions, Comments and Coordination
Post by: Joke Slayer on April 14, 2018, 12:47:27 pm
Couple of quick questions, mostly to make sure I'm doing the right thing:

https://catalog.archives.gov/OpaAPI/media/6919206/content/arcmedia/dc-metro/rg-026/585454-noaa/bear/vol065/26-159A-bear-vol065_014.jpg

On most pages they seem to have helpfully filled out the distance run by log since previous noon.

I've been writing this as a sailing summary at Noon, along with the entries which say stuff like course+distance by mercators log to Akoutan Pass N63W 1030

Should I keep doing this? Is there a different category for these entries?

Also, what do you want me to do with the longitude entries at the bottom of the page?
Title: Re: Bear (1886) -- Discussion: Questions, Comments and Coordination
Post by: Joke Slayer on April 15, 2018, 12:05:15 pm
Uploading May, No ice entire month

reserving June
Title: Re: Bear (1886) -- Discussion: Questions, Comments and Coordination
Post by: Michael on April 15, 2018, 04:06:49 pm
Quote from: Joke Slayer on April 14, 2018, 12:47:27 pm
Couple of quick questions, mostly to make sure I'm doing the right thing:

https://catalog.archives.gov/OpaAPI/media/6919206/content/arcmedia/dc-metro/rg-026/585454-noaa/bear/vol065/26-159A-bear-vol065_014.jpg

On most pages they seem to have helpfully filled out the distance run by log since previous noon.

I've been writing this as a sailing summary at Noon, along with the entries which say stuff like course+distance by mercators log to Akoutan Pass N63W 1030

Should I keep doing this? Is there a different category for these entries?

Also, what do you want me to do with the longitude entries at the bottom of the page?

Hi Joke Slayer,

I just returned from eight days away and now I have a computer with a screen large enough for my old eyes.

I don't need the longitude at the bottom of the page, nor the miles run since noon the previous day or the mercator distances. When I do the hourly calculations my software flags large errors and, if that's the case, I can look at the event page myself for hints.

Thanks for asking...
Title: Re: Bear (1886) -- Discussion: Questions, Comments and Coordination
Post by: Joke Slayer on April 20, 2018, 06:59:06 am
Uploaded June, lots of ice, though information of when vessel was starting/stopping not always very clear

Reserving July
Title: Re: Bear (1886) -- Discussion: Questions, Comments and Coordination
Post by: Randi on April 20, 2018, 07:14:44 am
(http://www.desismileys.com/smileys/desismileys_3266.gif)
Title: Re: Bear (1886) -- Discussion: Questions, Comments and Coordination
Post by: Joke Slayer on April 21, 2018, 02:07:16 pm
https://catalog.archives.gov/OpaAPI/media/6919206/content/arcmedia/dc-metro/rg-026/585454-noaa/bear/vol065/26-159A-bear-vol065_066.jpg

At 5.30 boat returned having examined Schr "Hamilton" of San Francisco. A Rider, master, Whaling who reported the loss of the Whaling Bark "John ~" in the ice off St. Lawrence Isld. + the probable loss of the Whaling Bark "Hunter" on or near the Pinnook Rocks
Title: Re: Bear (1886) -- Discussion: Questions, Comments and Coordination
Post by: Randi on April 21, 2018, 03:27:59 pm
"John Carver"
https://nmdl.org/projects/aowv/aowv/

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107706   John Carver   Bark   San Francisco, CA   North Pacific   Montross, Horace B.   Dec   1885   Jun   1886
Voyage    John Carver (May 1884 ? Nov 1885)
Rig    Bark
Port    New Bedford, MA
Destination    North Pacific
Sperm oil    0
Whale oil    1080
Whalebone & Baleen    21500
   
Vessel    John Carver
Vessel built    1857: Searsport, ME
Vessel end    Wrecked in Bering Sea, 21 June 1886
Title: Re: Bear (1886) -- Discussion: Questions, Comments and Coordination
Post by: Joke Slayer on April 23, 2018, 06:38:04 am
https://catalog.archives.gov/OpaAPI/media/6919206/content/arcmedia/dc-metro/rg-026/585454-noaa/bear/vol065/26-159A-bear-vol065_067.jpg

12.10 stopped in the ice + boarded and examined Schr. "~aia Light" of San Francisco CB Kurtel master whaling. The boarding officer reported having found 20 galls. whisky in her forecastle and the master and crew disclaiming all knowledge and ownership of the same it was thrown overboard. 8000 winchester cartridges were found in the same place were given in charge of the master and his receipt taken therefor. The crew nearly all of whom intoxicated volunteered the information that 26 Bbls. of whiskey + 2 cases of arms had been thrown overboard upon the approach of the cutter.
Title: Re: Bear (1886) -- Discussion: Questions, Comments and Coordination
Post by: Randi on April 23, 2018, 07:07:29 am
:o
Title: Re: Bear (1886) -- Discussion: Questions, Comments and Coordination
Post by: Bob on April 23, 2018, 09:28:34 am
I think that's the "Clara Light".
Title: Re: Bear (1886) -- Discussion: Questions, Comments and Coordination
Post by: Joke Slayer on April 27, 2018, 06:00:03 am
Quote from: Randi on April 21, 2018, 03:27:59 pm
"John Carver"
https://nmdl.org/projects/aowv/aowv/

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107706   John Carver   Bark   San Francisco, CA   North Pacific   Montross, Horace B.   Dec   1885   Jun   1886
Voyage    John Carver (May 1884 ? Nov 1885)
Rig    Bark
Port    New Bedford, MA
Destination    North Pacific
Sperm oil    0
Whale oil    1080
Whalebone & Baleen    21500
   
Vessel    John Carver
Vessel built    1857: Searsport, ME
Vessel end    Wrecked in Bering Sea, 21 June 1886


https://catalog.archives.gov/OpaAPI/media/6919206/content/arcmedia/dc-metro/rg-026/585454-noaa/bear/vol065/26-159A-bear-vol065_082.jpg

alongside the Stm Schr "Alliance" McKenna master spoke him and found that he had the wreck of the whaling bark John Carver in tow of the boats
Title: Re: Bear (1886) -- Discussion: Questions, Comments and Coordination
Post by: Randi on April 27, 2018, 06:06:55 am
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Title: Re: Bear (1886) -- Discussion: Questions, Comments and Coordination
Post by: Joke Slayer on April 28, 2018, 07:40:00 am
https://catalog.archives.gov/OpaAPI/media/6919206/content/arcmedia/dc-metro/rg-026/585454-noaa/bear/vol065/26-159A-bear-vol065_087.jpg

at 3 stm Launch and party returned accompanied by Passt Eng Zane + Asst(?) Surg Nash U.S.N. of the Stoney expedition Lieut Stoney being at the head of Selawick River.

Found a detailed account of the expedition
 
http://collections.dartmouth.edu/arctica-beta/html/EA15-69.html

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   Accompanied by machinist Price and three natives, Howard started north

on April 12, 1886, and reached Point Barrow on July 16, after a journey

of ninetey-six days. His route led across the Notoak to the Etivluk River

and thence by ways of the Colville and Chipp rivers to the arctic coast.

He remained at Point Barrow until August 13, when the U. S. revenue cutter

Bear took both him and Price on board for transportation to Hotham Inlet

where the ship was scheduled to pick up the rest of the expedition by

the end of August. (For full account see Rear Adm. W.L. Howard).



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The expedition left Kotzebue Sound on the Bear on August 28 and

landed in San Francisco on October 21, with every member in the best

of health.

Something to look forward to  :)

For once an arctic expedition which doesn't end horribly
Title: Re: Bear (1886) -- Discussion: Questions, Comments and Coordination
Post by: Bob on April 28, 2018, 07:49:46 am
That is a good thing.  :D

Quote from: Joke Slayer on April 28, 2018, 07:40:00 am
For once an arctic expedition which doesn't end horribly
Title: Re: Bear (1886) -- Discussion: Questions, Comments and Coordination
Post by: Randi on April 28, 2018, 08:15:45 am
Great find!
Title: Re: Bear (1886) -- Discussion: Questions, Comments and Coordination
Post by: Randi on April 28, 2018, 08:31:38 am
P.asst Eng is probably Passed Assistant Engineer
Quote from: Randi on October 07, 2014, 05:24:51 am
Passed
Having passed an examination for promotion, and awaiting a vacancy in the senior grade: as, a passed assistant surgeon in the United States navy - http://www.wordnik.com/words/passed


Found
Surgeon NASH, FRANCIS S.
and
Engineer ZANE, ABRAHAM V.
in http://ibiblio.org/hyperwar/AMH/USN/Naval_Registers/1775-1900.pdf
Title: Re: Bear (1886) -- Discussion: Questions, Comments and Coordination
Post by: Joke Slayer on April 28, 2018, 01:26:57 pm
Eventful day on the 28th July

https://catalog.archives.gov/OpaAPI/media/6919206/content/arcmedia/dc-metro/rg-026/585454-noaa/bear/vol065/26-159A-bear-vol065_092.jpg

Wonder what the specimens for the Smithsonian were


Finished July, moving on to August
Title: Re: Bear (1886) -- Discussion: Questions, Comments and Coordination
Post by: Randi on April 28, 2018, 03:25:17 pm
Military Exploration of the Brooks Range: https://www.nps.gov/gaar/learn/historyculture/military-exploration.htm
Healy and Stoney are both mentioned.

Title: Re: Bear (1886) -- Discussion: Questions, Comments and Coordination
Post by: Randi on April 28, 2018, 03:57:17 pm
Lieut. Stoney in Alaska https://timesmachine.nytimes.com/timesmachine/1886/10/16/103989001.pdf

(https://i.imgur.com/p6LCS6r.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/GrhN8Ff.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/mNZQjeh.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/guYKjnt.png)


Still don't know what was in those boxes ::)

Found https://siarchives.si.edu/collections/siris_arc_387381, but it is not very helpful beyond mentioning Lieut. Stoney
Title: Re: Bear (1886) -- Discussion: Questions, Comments and Coordination
Post by: Joke Slayer on May 03, 2018, 12:38:29 pm
https://catalog.archives.gov/OpaAPI/media/6919206/content/arcmedia/dc-metro/rg-026/585454-noaa/bear/vol065/26-159A-bear-vol065_108.jpg

Picked up Mr Howard on 13th August

Also 6-8PM discovered a lump (?) with 6 feet of water in it

should that be a lagoon?
Title: Re: Bear (1886) -- Discussion: Questions, Comments and Coordination
Post by: Michael on May 03, 2018, 01:35:16 pm
It does look like the word lump. I wonder if they are seeing a pingo (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pingo).

Title: Re: Bear (1886) -- Discussion: Questions, Comments and Coordination
Post by: Randi on May 03, 2018, 02:20:24 pm
It looks to me more like "on it" than "in it" :-\

Given that they were just talking about ground ice, I wonder if they could mean a lump of ground ice that broke lose and has a melt pond? :-\
https://nsidc.org/cryosphere/glossary/term/melt-ponds
Title: Re: Bear (1886) -- Discussion: Questions, Comments and Coordination
Post by: Joke Slayer on May 09, 2018, 08:23:26 am
Uploaded August

Lots of ice first half of the month, lots of interaction with the Stoney expedition second half

Reserving September
Title: Re: Bear (1886) -- Discussion: Questions, Comments and Coordination
Post by: Michael on May 09, 2018, 11:41:04 am
 :) :) :)
Title: Re: Bear (1886) -- Discussion: Questions, Comments and Coordination
Post by: Michael on July 20, 2018, 03:15:54 pm
Here is the plot of the voyage (https://drive.google.com/open?id=1-fEwMZu0axrelkgo-TMoplSIsj0Nz0yL).