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Title: Bear (1884) -- Discussion: Questions, Comments and Coordination
Post by: Randi on July 10, 2018, 06:47:18 pm
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Title: Re: Bear (1884) -- Discussion: Questions, Comments and Coordination
Post by: Randi on July 10, 2018, 06:53:51 pm
Ice Hunting Guide (http://forum.oldweather.org/index.php?topic=4690.0)
Using the Tracker for Ice Hunting (Provisional) (http://forum.oldweather.org/index.php?topic=4821.0)
Ask Questions Here (http://forum.oldweather.org/index.php?topic=4826.0)
Note: Currently we only want the months that have a green or yellow stripe on the month tab in the Tracker and only one transcription is required per page.
 
 

OW web site: Bear (https://sites.google.com/view/owfaq/ships/shipyard/bear)

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Title: Re: Bear (1884) -- Discussion: Questions, Comments and Coordination
Post by: Randi on July 10, 2018, 06:54:00 pm
Reserved
Title: Re: Bear (1884) -- Discussion: Questions, Comments and Coordination
Post by: Randi on August 06, 2018, 03:30:47 pm
Over here, Stuart ;D
Title: Re: Bear (1884) -- Discussion: Questions, Comments and Coordination
Post by: Pommy Stuart on September 30, 2018, 08:01:21 pm
Anybody know what they mean by

6:00am Passed an old Nood: later on an old Harp.  ?

https://catalog.archives.gov/OpaAPI/media/6919159/content/arcmedia/dc-metro/rg-024/581208-noaa/bear/vol001of002/24-118-bear-b001of002_0061.jpg (https://catalog.archives.gov/OpaAPI/media/6919159/content/arcmedia/dc-metro/rg-024/581208-noaa/bear/vol001of002/24-118-bear-b001of002_0061.jpg)
Title: Re: Bear (1884) -- Discussion: Questions, Comments and Coordination
Post by: Randi on September 30, 2018, 08:35:13 pm
Looking at the N in Navy in the next watch, I think it may be Wood or Hood :-\

Unfortunately, that is about the extent of my help :'(

Maybe they are  finding the remains of a ship?

HOOD. A covering for a companion-hatch, skylight, &c. Also, the piece of tarred or painted canvas which used to cover the eyes of rigging to prevent water from damaging them; now seldom used. Also, the name given to the upper part of the galley chimney, made to turn round with the wind, that the smoke may always go to leeward.?Naval hoods or whood. Large thick pieces of timber which encircle the hawse-holes.

HARPINGS, or Harpens. The fore-parts of the wales which encompass the bow of a ship, and are fastened to the stem, being thicker than the after-part of the wales, in order to strengthen the ship in that place where she sustains the greatest shock of resistance in plunging into the sea, or dividing it, under a great pressure of sail.
:-\
Title: Re: Bear (1884) -- Discussion: Questions, Comments and Coordination
Post by: Pommy Stuart on September 30, 2018, 11:47:34 pm
Better quess than mine.  ;)
Title: Re: Bear (1884) -- Discussion: Questions, Comments and Coordination
Post by: Pommy Stuart on October 04, 2018, 11:29:51 pm
June 22 1884.
Found the Lieut Greely Party.

(Is there anywhere I can find a list of the ships I have done as one of them was also looking for Franklin?)
Title: Re: Bear (1884) -- Discussion: Questions, Comments and Coordination
Post by: Hurlock on October 04, 2018, 11:37:34 pm
Quote from: Pommy Stuart on October 04, 2018, 11:29:51 pm
June 22 1884.
Found the Lieut Greely Party.

(Is there anywhere I can find a list of the ships I have done as one of them was also looking for Franklin?)

That's a grim tale.
Title: Re: Bear (1884) -- Discussion: Questions, Comments and Coordination
Post by: Pommy Stuart on October 04, 2018, 11:38:58 pm
Quote from: Hurlock on October 04, 2018, 11:37:34 pm
Quote from: Pommy Stuart on October 04, 2018, 11:29:51 pm
June 22 1884.
Found the Lieut Greely Party.

(Is there anywhere I can find a list of the OW ships I have done as one of them was also looking for Franklin?)

That's a grim tale.

True. And Franklins tale was no better.

In 2015 I sailed (think 120pax cruise ship) close to where Franklins Eribis and Terror wrecks were found them.
We also sailed close to the Littleton Is area and almost up to Cape Sabine in the area where Greely was found
I would recommend to everybody to do the "Into the Northwest Passage" cruise.
(PM me if you want further cruise details)
Title: Re: Bear (1884) -- Discussion: Questions, Comments and Coordination
Post by: Pommy Stuart on October 05, 2018, 01:02:21 am
Greely find Log pages start at.

https://catalog.archives.gov/OpaAPI/media/6919159/content/arcmedia/dc-metro/rg-024/581208-noaa/bear/vol001of002/24-118-bear-b001of002_0103.jpg (https://catalog.archives.gov/OpaAPI/media/6919159/content/arcmedia/dc-metro/rg-024/581208-noaa/bear/vol001of002/24-118-bear-b001of002_0103.jpg)
Title: Re: Bear (1884) -- Discussion: Questions, Comments and Coordination
Post by: Randi on October 05, 2018, 07:21:39 am
Quote from: Pommy Stuart on October 04, 2018, 11:29:51 pm
(Is there anywhere I can find a list of the ships I have done as one of them was also looking for Franklin?)

https://classic.oldweather.org/profile will show all the ships you worked on.

You may be thinking of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Bear_(1874) (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Bear_(1874))
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Just back from her refit in 1884 and ready for another season of sealing, Bear was instead purchased by the US government in 1884 and took part in the search for the Lady Franklin Bay Expedition, whose seven survivors were found at Cape Sabine.
Title: Re: Bear (1884) -- Discussion: Questions, Comments and Coordination
Post by: AvastMH on October 05, 2018, 03:24:18 pm

The Thetis, the Bear, and two UK ships (Alert and Loch Garry) got involved in rescuing Greely's Lady Franklin Bay expedition in 1884. Greely's crew had waved goodbye to their ship, the Proteus, and started to explore and then retreat to safety using pre-set food dumps. The dumps were insufficient for their needs.
During the time that this expedition was failing, the surviving crew of the Jeannette arrived back into civilization. Greely had been tasked to keep a watch to see if he could ascertain the fate of the Jeannette which was lost in 1881. The terrible story of the death by starvation of the Jeanette's captain (George Washington De Long) and about one third of the crew shocked the nation and there was deep mourning for the brave souls lost. Melville, the Chief Engineer on the Jeanette (and later Chief Engineer to the US Navy), after surviving all of that, set out almost straight away on the Thetis to assist in the rescue of Greely. When the bones of the dead of the Greely expedition were exhumed for re-burial in the US, sharp knife marks were noted leading to the belief that the survivors had practised cannibalism to survive. This cast a heavy and very unpleasant shadow over them. When the poor standard of food dumps became known this alleviated the public's wrath somewhat.  :-[

When I was transcribing an event where the Bear rescued an Arctic Expedition, I wondered if they sailed off each year with a list of the likely unfortunates who would need to be rescued! In fact the Greely expedition did succeed in a way - during that time the US won the 'farthest north' record which it had been after for a while, determined to beat its old Imperial rulers (Britain) into second place.  ;) :D
Title: Re: Bear (1884) -- Discussion: Questions, Comments and Coordination
Post by: Pommy Stuart on October 05, 2018, 04:09:14 pm
Just met the Alert and Lock Garry today. (30 June 1884) trying to sail south out of Melville bay.
Title: Re: Bear (1884) -- Discussion: Questions, Comments and Coordination
Post by: Pommy Stuart on October 06, 2018, 06:54:46 pm
Bear 1884 Finished
Title: Re: Bear (1884) -- Discussion: Questions, Comments and Coordination
Post by: Randi on October 06, 2018, 07:07:53 pm
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Title: Re: Bear (1884) -- Discussion: Questions, Comments and Coordination
Post by: Michael on October 28, 2018, 09:47:18 am
Sunday, 22 June 1884 (https://catalog.archives.gov/OpaAPI/media/6919159/content/arcmedia/dc-metro/rg-024/581208-noaa/bear/vol001of002/24-118-bear-b001of002_0103.jpg)

Payer Harbour, Nunavut. 78.7000000   -74.2166670

From 6 to 8 P.M.
Cloudy. Blowing very fresh from W by N. Steaming into Payer Harbor and at 7.30 came to making fast to ice floe about 1/2 mile on port beam of the "Thetis". Sent two men with Lt. Taunt of the Thetis, to search Brevoort Id, also Dr. Ames & two men to search gully and several islands inshore. Also a party with steam launch, Lt. Coloured, Chief Engr Lowe, Ice forecasters F. Schee & Norman to examine cairn on Cape Sabine.

8 P.M. to Mid.
Overcast, gloomy weather. Blowing whole gale with very heavy squalls; gale increasing in force. About 8 the party under Lieut. Taunt discovered a cairn on Brevoort Island containing Records of Lieut Greely stating that on 26th October 1883 he established permanent camp half way between Cocked Hat Island and Cape Sabine, having at that time 40 days rations. Got underway way at once, Ames & Schee coming on board this ship. Steam launch in meantime found camp of Lieut. Greely's Party, landed finding Lieut. Greely & six men alive. The remainder of party dead of starvation. Comdr Schee and Lieut Emory landed at once with surgeon of shp, medical stores and provisions. Ship standing off & Willowonghe (?)very heavy latter part of watch. Sergts Fredericks, Long, and Ellison U.S. Signal Corps of the Greely party came on board.

23 June 1884 (https://catalog.archives.gov/OpaAPI/media/6919159/content/arcmedia/dc-metro/rg-024/581208-noaa/bear/vol001of002/24-118-bear-b001of002_0104.jpg)
Mid to 4 A.M.
Clear and cool. BLowing fresh gale from N.N.W. with very frequent heavy squalls. Lying off camp of Lieut Greely and communicating by whale boats and steam launch with the shore to bring off survivors of the Greely Expedition as well as records, relics etc. Latter named articles as soon as brought on board, were collected & put together, some in main hold & some in cabin. Received on board Sergts Long, Frederick, & Ellison, the first two in a very weak condition; the last having both feet frozen off as well as the fingers & thumbs of both hands, and he was very weak and much exhausted.

4 to 8 A.M.
Overcast & cold. Strong wind from W.N.W. to N.W. Barometer falling slowly. At 11 cast off from ice, with Lt. Schee and Chief Engr Melville and two men from "Thetis" on board to make another search of Camp Clay, and steamed around Cape Sabine for that place.

Meridian to 4 P.M. Overcast and cloudy. Blowing whole gale with heavy squalls from W.N.W. On arriving off the camp, ship stood off and on, and parties in charge of Lt. Schee and Lt. Crosby went on shore and made a search through the camp, both the abandoned winter quarters and the ground occupied by the summer camp, for all relics belonging to Lieut. Greely's party. The ice showed signs of shutting down on the shore; the party accordingly returned with the relics, and the ship returned to Payer Harbor and made fast to ice near the Thetis at 2.45. A complete list of articles brought on board is in the possession of the Comd'g Officer.

4 to 8 P.M.
Partly coudy. Slight fog from 6 to 7. Calm and light breeze from W.N.W. At 4 got under way and following Thetis steamed out of Payer Harbor and set course for Littleton Island. ...

8 P.M. to Mid.
Cloudy & mild. Calm. Sent a boat to the Thetis and brought from her five corpses assign numbered 1-3-8-9&10. Stripped clothing & wrappings from them and prepared them for burial. Hoisted oil tank out of engine room and placed in on forecastle ready to stow bodies in. Several shooting parties away from ship got large numbers of ducks & eggs. Occasional very loose strings of heavy ice passing the island.

June 24 (https://catalog.archives.gov/OpaAPI/media/6919159/content/arcmedia/dc-metro/rg-024/581208-noaa/bear/vol001of002/24-118-bear-b001of002_0105.jpg)
Meridian to 4 P.M.
The large tank having been prepared, five bodies were placed in it and a mixture of alcohol and water to preserve them.
Title: Re: Bear (1884) -- Discussion: Questions, Comments and Coordination
Post by: AvastMH on October 28, 2018, 10:50:22 am
Quote from: mapurves on October 28, 2018, 09:47:18 am
Sunday, 22 June 1884 (https://catalog.archives.gov/OpaAPI/media/6919159/content/arcmedia/dc-metro/rg-024/581208-noaa/bear/vol001of002/24-118-bear-b001of002_0103.jpg)

Payer Harbour, Nunavut. 78.7000000   -74.2166670

Ah - I was writing may answer as you wrote yours - I'll digest this story later - nipping next door for some dinner with neighbour Ron  :D
Title: Re: Bear (1884) -- Discussion: Questions, Comments and Coordination
Post by: Michael on October 29, 2018, 03:30:00 pm
The voyage for 1884 (https://drive.google.com/open?id=1hXS6aqGFn6hkH1finbuwbJWLlARD9KRu) is done.