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Title: Another day in the ship's galley ...
Post by: Caro on 17 November 2012, 09:45:09
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USRC%20Unalga/b0139_cr2_to_jpg/b0139_102_1.jpg
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USRC%20Unalga/b0139_cr2_to_jpg/b0139_103_1.jpg

One of Coast Guard cutter Unalga's more extravagant shopping lists:

Received the following stores for use in the general mess: from LA MONSERRAT BAKERY, 20 pounds bread and 07 (seven) pound rolls; from CASELLAS ICE PLANT, 50 pounds ice; from MENDEZ MARTINEZ CO, 500 pounds Irish potatoes and 100 pounds onions; from PALICITA SAN JOSE, 30 pounds bananas, 450 pounds pork and beans, 50 pounds string beans, 100 pounds oranges, 60 pounds tomatoes, 30 pounds turnips; from MARCIAL FIGUEROA, 50 pounds carrots; from NAVAL AIR STATION on requisition number C-41-42, 196 pounds flour, 36 pounds crackers, 100 pounds coffee, 261 pounds evaporated milk, 105 pounds pork shoulder, 129 pounds veal leg, 78 pounds turkey, 106 pounds ham, 50 pounds frankfurters, 123 pounds canned pears, 180 pounds canned pineapple, 192 pounds jam, 100 pounds beans, 120 pounds corn, 123 pounds string beans, 93 pounds canned peas, 57 pounds spinach, 80 pounds tomatoes (canned), 60 pounds baking powder, 12 gallons salad oil, 200 pounds sugar, 4 pints vinegar, 120 pounds butter, 30 dozen eggs, 30 pounds milk, 10 pounds yeast, 167 pounds beef round, 100 pounds rice.



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Post by: AvastMH on 17 November 2012, 15:23:17
Pear and banana crumble with custard anyone?
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Post by: Helen J on 17 November 2012, 15:49:33
Or pineapple upside down pudding?  (Also with custard of course)
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Post by: studentforever on 17 November 2012, 16:20:56
I've never bought milk by the pound.  If a pint of pure water weighs a pound and a quarter, how many pints of milk to 30 pounds?
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Post by: Janet Jaguar on 17 November 2012, 17:40:18
I've never bought milk by the pound.  If a pint of pure water weighs a pound and a quarter, how many pints of milk to 30 pounds?

A gallon of pure water weighs 8.33 lbs.
So a pint would weigh 1.04 lbs. = 16.66 oz.
1 fluid ounce of water weighs 1.04 oz.

I kinda figure, the merchants/farmers who decided 1 fluid ounce equals 1 weight ounce were weighing either some good alcoholic beverage or cream-heavy milk, that had a density of 0.96 ;)

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I went looking, and milk is too complicated to weigh.  I'm guessing 30 lbs would be anything between 28 to 31 pints.

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from an agricultural school site - googling is fun!

The density of milk (g/mL) changes with temperature.
For example, the density of milk = 1.003073 - 0.000179t - 0.000368F + 0.00374N,
where t = temperature in degrees C; F = percent fat; and N = percent nonfat solids

Title: Re: Another day in the ship's galley ...
Post by: studentforever on 18 November 2012, 03:18:34
It's funny the way minds work, I can't easily work with American recipes giving 'cups' yet I know that my (old) tablespoon will give me 1oz flour heaped and 1 oz sugar flattened and regularly use it when baking.

Reading the entry I had no mental picture of whether the milk was a lot or a little and had to start working it out, first as you did with water and then wondering how cream -light- and protein, sugar and salts -heavy- interacted.  Of course, the milk wouldn't have kept for long because I doubt if it was pasteurised so the initial purchase was quite generous.
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Post by: Caro on 18 November 2012, 03:39:22
I thought it was probably powdered milk.
The quantity of milk that is delivered regularly from the dairy is given in gallons.
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Post by: Randi on 18 November 2012, 03:50:41
Yes, I was wondering about powdered - or canned (tinned ;)).
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Post by: Maikel on 18 November 2012, 05:16:03
Going metric (so much easier  ;))...
1 litre of water weighs approximately 1 kilogram
1 litre of milk weighs approximately 1.03 kilogram

I'll leave it up to you to convert this to (either American or British) cups, quarts, pints, gallons, teaspoons, ounce, oz, lbs, stones and what have you ;D
Title: Re: Another day in the ship's galley ...
Post by: Caro on 18 November 2012, 07:29:28
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USRC%20Unalga/b0139_cr2_to_jpg/b0139_118_1.jpg

A possible explanation: included on this day's list is 261 pounds milk evaporated (plus the inevitable 21/2 gallons of ice cream).  ;D
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Post by: propriome on 18 November 2012, 08:24:14
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plus the inevitable 21/2 gallons of ice cream

They'll soon stop taking ice-cream (as well as recording "position when relieved" on each watch change while at sea) :-\ :'(
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Post by: Randi on 19 April 2013, 10:53:05
Thetis - Feb 1887

following stores 30.5 bbls* pork, 14.5 bbls beef, 4 bbls vinegar, 4 bbls molasses, 14 kegs pickles**

Received the following stores in Pay. Dept. 38 boxes of Coffee, 12 boxes of Tomatoes, 10 boxes of butter, 4 bbls rice; 10 bbls of Flour.

Received in Paymasters. Department. 17 bbls Granulated Sugar. 12 half bbls split peas, 9 bbls beans, 5 half bbls bacon.

Received in Pay Dept. 6 Kegs of bacon, 29 boxes of canned vegetables, 20 boxes oatmeal, 21 boxes preserved meat; 5 boxes of tea, 11 boxes bacon, 4 boxes cranberry sauce, 2 boxes evaporated peaches, 3 boxes evaporated apples.

4 bbls bread



*bbl.
abbr. barrel - http://www.thefreedictionary.com/bbl.

** pickle
   1.   A solution of salt and water, in which fish, meat, etc., may be preserved or corned; brine.
   2.   Any article of food which has been preserved in brine or in vinegar. - http://www.webster-dictionary.net/definition/pickle

Title: Re: Another day in the ship's galley ...
Post by: Kevin on 19 April 2013, 11:07:19
All you want to know about pounds of milk:
http://familycow.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=raw&action=display&thread=12870
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Post by: Randi on 18 May 2013, 10:31:34
Thetis: http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Thetis/vol004of024/vol004_069_1.jpg

Received in Equipment Dept. :-
..., 1 fish kettle, 1 kneading trough, 1 soapstone griddle, 1 cleaver,
1 cook's knife + fork, 1 iron spoon, 1 pastry board, 6 baking cups,
1 copper tea kettle, 1 iron -do- 2 frying pans, 2 sauce pans, 5 pie
plates, 1 collender, 1 sieve, 1 strainer, 1 cake lifter, 1 chopping knife
1 dredge box, 1 dish pan, 1 iron griddle, 1 baking pan, 1 roasting pan,
1 iron pot, 1 waffle iron, 1 dust brush, 1 knife box, 1 gridiron
1 wire griddle, 1 steamer, 1 chopping board, 1 rolling pin, 1 frying
pan, 1 knife board, 1 coffee mill, ...
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Post by: Helen J on 18 May 2013, 10:42:41
They sound ready for any culinary challenge with all that lot!
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Post by: AvastMH on 18 May 2013, 10:50:33
What's the '1 small tormentor' for? Some cunning gremlin that makes the fruit drop in your cakes? A cunning elf that leaves the bottom of the pies soggy?  ::) ;D
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Post by: studentforever on 18 May 2013, 10:55:25
But how many would they be cooking for, I wish they'd put some sizes in.
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Post by: Janet Jaguar on 18 May 2013, 11:54:55
The 'tormentor' is at the end with lines and cables; I don't think it is kitchen gear.  What it really is, is still a puzzlement.  Google searches only turn up destroyer and later shore establishment HMS Tormentor, and an online game.
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Post by: Thursday Next on 18 May 2013, 12:24:25
While I am tempted to suggest that "1 small tormentor" might be the ship's cat, according to my 1973 dictionary "tormentor" can mean "a long meat fork".
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Post by: Janet Jaguar on 18 May 2013, 12:36:01
Now that would indicate that the ship's cooks knew how to take out their frustrations (on the meat!) about every crew member who complained about their cooking!  Makes you wonder how many faces got painted on the side of beef. ;D
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Post by: Randi on 18 May 2013, 13:15:25
I wondered about the small tormenter too, but I didn't find anything - or rather I found too much.

"a long meat fork" is interesting, but as Janet says, it is not with the kitchen equipment
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200 fms 1.5 in Manila, 74 lbs. 1 small tormentor, 9 lengths leading hose, (Linen), 15 bbls. sand.
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Post by: Thursday Next on 18 May 2013, 15:27:17
OK, it's not with the kitchen equipment, but http://www.finedictionary.com/tormentor.html specifically says it is "a long fork used by a ship's cook to take meat out of the coppers".  Maybe the logkeeper copied out the list of kitchen stuff, moved on to the cables, then realized he'd omitted the tormentor so just put it in next?  Although a small, long fork does seem a bit odd ...
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Post by: Randi on 18 May 2013, 15:35:50
I think you are right ;D
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Post by: AvastMH on 18 May 2013, 18:17:59
Just think about all those cows quarters that ended up in the drink during loading...how many did we record? A meat fork that's good for all eventualities has to be useful on a ship - space is always at a premium you know - a good meat fork cannot afford to be choosey about where it appears on the list. Life in the kitchen is obvious, but you can stand out when you're in someone else's tackle list.  ::)
Title: Re: Another day in the ship's galley ...
Post by: Randi on 05 June 2013, 11:06:52
Jamestown - http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Jamestown/vol001of067/vol001of067_050_0.jpg

Yesterday: "Opened a Barrel of Beef and found it deficient 15 lbs."

Today: "In serving out a barrel of provisions, a barrel of Pork was found deficient 35 lbs."
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Post by: Craig on 05 June 2013, 15:04:59
You will get tired of reporting this sort of thing, Randi. They have a couple of bad barrels every week. You have to wonder about the quality of the ones they don't throw overboard.
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Post by: Janet Jaguar on 05 June 2013, 15:24:52
It must be hard to keep ships' chandlers honest - their clients don't stay put long enough to dump the defective barrels back in their own front yard to cope with.
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Post by: Randi on 05 June 2013, 15:28:29
I seem to remember hearing something to the effect that in the Spanish Civil War (?) the bad food killed more soldiers than the bullets.

Not sure if that was a real study or if someone was trying to make a point.

 :-\
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Post by: Thursday Next on 05 June 2013, 15:44:39
I seem to remember hearing something to the effect that in the Spanish Civil War (?) the bad food killed more soldiers than the bullets.

Not sure if that was a real study or if someone was trying to make a point.

 :-\

I know so little about the Spanish Civil War, so I recently bought "The Battle for Spain" by Anthony Beevor.  I haven't yet found the time to read it (it's quite a weighty volume!) but I've just had a quick look in the index.  I can't see anything to confirm that statement, but it is clear that food shortages were a massive factor for the republican side, though the author does say that the troops were generally fed better than the civilian population.
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Post by: asterix135 on 05 June 2013, 22:16:13
I seem to remember hearing something to the effect that in the Spanish Civil War (?) the bad food killed more soldiers than the bullets.

Not sure if that was a real study or if someone was trying to make a point.

 :-\

Close - it may have been the Spanish American war you were thinking of

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Army_beef_scandal
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Post by: Randi on 06 June 2013, 02:55:49
Yes, thanks that is it!

I remember reading Upton Sinclair's book The Jungle a long time ago - and I still remember some of the details quite clearly.
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Post by: Kevin on 08 June 2013, 21:59:32
I think it is a general rule that disease (including food-borne) always took a surprisingly heavy toll compared to actual combat up until fairly recently.
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Post by: Randi on 09 June 2013, 04:08:04
Jamestown - http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Jamestown/vol001of067/vol001of067_050_0.jpg

Yesterday: "Opened a Barrel of Beef and found it deficient 15 lbs."

Today: "In serving out a barrel of provisions, a barrel of Pork was found deficient 35 lbs."

You will get tired of reporting this sort of thing, Randi. They have a couple of bad barrels every week. You have to wonder about the quality of the ones they don't throw overboard.

I just had a comment saying "discovered a Barrel of Pork to be 9 lbs deficient"

It sounds more like they are reporting that the barrel wasn't as full/heavy as it should have been rather than saying that it was bad (though it probably wasn't good ::)).
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Post by: Caro on 09 June 2013, 04:22:03
I remember that the rum barrels were often reported to be not as full as they should have been on HMS Patuca.
 :)
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Post by: Helen J on 09 June 2013, 07:16:06
I remember that the rum barrels were often reported to be not as full as they should have been on HMS Patuca.
 :)

Yes, I remember that too.  It always rather amused me that they faithfully noted it down, but never seemed to do anything about it - or at least there were no records of anyone being hauled over the coals for helping themselves!
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Post by: Randi on 25 August 2013, 03:36:46
...
Also from New Scientist 27/07/2013. The Last Word.
"By the way, US Navy cooks traditionally cracked a raw egg into brewing coffee to clarify the Joe."[/color]


Be polite in your laughter - my grandmother did the same thing when she was making a very large urn of coffee for a big to-do and wanted it to taste very good. :)
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Post by: Kevin on 21 September 2013, 16:13:30
About missing rum:
TO BLEED (SUCK) THE MONKEY
To extract rum from a barrel by boring a small hole in the barrel or cask.
From: http://www.hmsrichmond.org/dict_b.htm
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Post by: Randi on 11 November 2013, 04:23:28
5 Oct 1845:
Received from the Store Ship 17 Bbls of Bread 3 Bbls of Butter and 4 Boxes of Cocoa.

http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Jamestown/vol001of067/vol001of067_156_1.jpg
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Post by: Randi on 02 February 2014, 15:26:45
Quote from: http://www.history.navy.mil/faqs/faq78-1.htm
Generally, however, the Sailor of bygone days was content to sink his chops into a meal that was called "lobscouse," "daddyfunk," or "plumduff." Then for an after dinner demitasse he would wash it down with "pale ale." As an added attraction, if the menu did not suit his culinary taste he could try some "schooner on the rocks." The term "lobscouse" came into being as a byword for what we now call hash. It was a concoction of meat, vegetables and hardtack, and was usually stewed. "Daddyfunk" was a messy concoction of hardtack soaked in water and bake with grease and molasses. "Plumduff" was originally a plain flour pudding containing raisins or currants, boiled in a bag or cloth. "Schooner on the rocks" was the nautical name for to a roast beef surrounded by potatoes, and "pale ale" is known to us today as water.
...
There was no refrigeration aboard ship in olden days. Foodstuffs were apt to spoil easily, and as a result the cook's tasks were made even harder. Fresh meat was carried only in small quantities and fresh vegetables were almost unheard of. When ships were in foreign ports hunting parties were organized to seek fresh meat. In larger ships and on short passages, live beasts were carried for fresh meat, but on long voyages oxen, like men, could get scurvy too, or at any rate thin down to uselessness, and sheep took poorly to the sea life. In good weather hens prospered and about the only animal to prosper at sea was the goat, and the goats prospered always.


Quote from: http://bluejacket.com/naval_terms_tradition.htm
Jack-of-the-Dust.  Jack o' the Dust. Person in charge of breaking out provisions for the food service operation.  Originates with the British Navy.  "Jack," a Royal Navy sailor, who worked in the bakery and was covered with flour dust.  Also, "Dusty."
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Post by: camiller on 02 February 2014, 18:08:14
 8)  The Jamestown 1844 gets "fresh vegetables for the crew" when in port.  Those sailors must have been the lucky ones!
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Post by: Randi on 04 February 2015, 13:38:13
Lots of lists of supplies received on Vicksburg starting with:
what's for dinner?

Nagasaki Japan Apr 11, 1903: fresh meat, bread, potatoes, eggs
Nagasaki Japan Apr 13, 1903: veal, bread, potatoes
Nagasaki Japan Apr 14, 1903: potatoes, sausage, liver, eggs
Nagasaki Japan Apr 15, 1903: highland cream, beef, potatoes, carrots, turnips, eggs, beef
Nagasaki Japan Apr 16, 1903: bread
Nagasaki Japan Apr 17, 1903: beef, minced meat, bread, eggs, pork chops, beef, potatoes
Nagasaki Japan Apr 18, 1903: beef, potatoes, onions, carrot sticks, eggs, corned beef, tomatoes, pea beans, prunes, dried apples, salt pork, salt beef, swiss milk, sugar, hops, rice,
Nagasaki Japan Apr 19, 1903: bread, ?, liver
Nagasaki Japan Apr 21, 1903: beef, potatoes, salt
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Post by: AvastMH on 04 February 2015, 16:17:00
So - April the 16th was party day then?! ('bread'...let's hope it was multigrain  :P)
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Post by: Tegwen on 05 February 2015, 12:09:38
Lots of lists of supplies received on Vicksburg starting with:
what's for dinner?

Nagasaki Japan Apr 11, 1903: fresh meat, bread, potatoes, eggs
Nagasaki Japan Apr 13, 1903: veal, bread, potatoes
Nagasaki Japan Apr 14, 1903: potatoes, sausage, liver, eggs
Nagasaki Japan Apr 15, 1903: highland cream, beef, potatoes, carrots, turnips, eggs, beef
Nagasaki Japan Apr 16, 1903: bread
Nagasaki Japan Apr 17, 1903: beef, minced meat, bread, eggs, pork chops, beef, potatoes
Nagasaki Japan Apr 18, 1903: beef, potatoes, onions, carrot sticks, eggs, corned beef, tomatoes, pea beans, prunes, dried apples, salt pork, salt beef, swiss milk, sugar, hops, rice,
Nagasaki Japan Apr 19, 1903: bread, ?, liver
Nagasaki Japan Apr 21, 1903: beef, potatoes, salt

That entry for the 18th of April is very weird. Swiss milk, hops & rice. Not sure what Swiss milk is but hops are not edible, in any form that I can think of. They are the dried flowers of a plant. They have a wonderful aroma, but would not taste of that. I guess they could be used as a herb, but have never heard of that. They do not even taste bitter unless boiled in acidic solution, whereupon the bitterness extracts into the liquid.
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Post by: Randi on 05 February 2015, 13:04:19
Quote from: http://encyclopedia.thefreedictionary.com/hops
Beverages
The only major commercial use for hops is in beer, although hops are also an ingredient in Julmust, a carbonated beverage similar to soda that is popular in Sweden during December, as well as Malta, a Latin American soft drink. Hops are sometimes added to some varieties of kvass. They are also used for flavor in some tisanes.

Medicinal
Hops are also used in herbal medicine in a way similar to valerian, as a treatment for anxiety, restlessness, and insomnia.[34] A pillow filled with hops is a popular folk remedy for sleeplessness, and animal research has shown a sedative effect.[35] The relaxing effect of hops may be due, in part, to the specific chemical component dimethylvinyl carbinol.[36][37] Hops tend to be unstable when exposed to light or air and lose their potency after a few months' storage.
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Post by: Caro on 05 February 2015, 14:44:40
Tablet is sometimes referred to as Swiss Milk tablet (Swiss Milk being a term used by some for condensed milk) or butter tablet.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tablet_%28confectionery%29
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Post by: Randi on 28 July 2015, 07:20:52
I'm reading Two Years Before the Mast.
In July 1835, they are going around Cape Horn and the author makes the comment:
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I never knew a sailor, in my life, who would not prefer a pot of hot coffee or chocolate, in a cold night, to all the rum afloat.
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Post by: jil on 28 July 2015, 09:04:50
 ??? He's obviously never met any of our guys (With apologies to all the sober and well-behaved men who therefore never get mentioned!)

And anyway wouldn't you just stick the rum in the hot chocolate or coffee and get the best of both worlds  :)
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Post by: Randi on 28 July 2015, 10:07:48
 ;D
Keep in mind that he does specify a cold night.
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Post by: jd570b on 16 January 2016, 21:50:49
Jamestown (1886)
31/03/1887 - http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Jamestown/vol058of067/vol058of067_014_1.jpg
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Rec in Pay Dept. Mch 31 
420 lbs split peas
1244 " Rice
250 " Butter
400 " Ham
340 " Coffee
50 " Tea
189 " Pickles
~60 " Canned Vegetables
236 " Sugar
300 " Candles
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Post by: AvastMH on 17 January 2016, 08:31:36
Hmmmm...
Sweet buttered rice is nice. Bar the tea, coffee and candles, the rest would make a fine pea & ham soup. The candles would make it a romantic meal...and as someone who can't cope with alcohol, tea and coffee sound good. I'll eat with them  :D oh no - I'm allergic to meat - blow!  :(
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Post by: Randi on 17 January 2016, 08:38:41
How about split pea and rice soup?

Perhaps the canned vegetables could be sauteed in butter and added to the soup :-\
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Post by: Hurlock on 17 January 2016, 14:55:20
Albatross 10th May 1905 Sausalito,Cal.

http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Albatross/vol040of055/vol040of055_203_1.jpg

Received from General Storekeeper, Navy Yard Mare Isld. by U.S.Tug Unadilla, the following articles of provisions, viz:- 16 box. Apples, dried  11 bbl. Beans  200 box. Corned Beef  400 box. Roast Beef  20 bbl. Salt Beef  20 box. Butter  13 box. Coffee  60 bbl. Flour  12 box. Peaches, dried  9 kegs Picles  10 bbl. Salt Pork  5 box. Raisins  5 bbl. Rice  9 kegs Syrup  11 bbl. Sugar  4 chests Tea  25 box. Tomatoes  14 box. Peas, canned  10 box. Corn  9 box. String Beans  8 box. Lima Beans  7 box. Succotash  6 kegs Vinegar  5 box. Cheese  6 box. Macaroni  2 box. Baking Powder  5 box. Yeast  44 box. Cream  6 box. Peaches, canned  7 box. Pears, canned  7 box. Apricots, canned  15 box. Lard  2 box. Mustard  10 box. Salt  Total 993 Pkgs.
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Post by: jd570b on 17 January 2016, 19:43:22
06/04/1887 - http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Jamestown/vol058of067/vol058of067_022_1.jpg
Jamestown (1886)
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Condemned 27 lbs. butter, Thurber, Whyland and Co. Contractors, furnished and inspected July 25,
also 6 lbs. Canned vegetables Kemp. Day and Co. Contractors. 
Pay Inspector A.J. Clarke, inspector of both articles.
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Post by: jd570b on 17 January 2016, 21:02:00
22/04/1887 - http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Jamestown/vol058of067/vol058of067_038_1.jpg
Jamestown (1886)
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Received in Pay Department
158 lbs. fresh beef
158 lbs. Vegetables
126 lbs fresh bread
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Post by: Hurlock on 18 January 2016, 13:38:48
More Albatross Food
12th May 1905
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Albatross/vol040of055/vol040of055_206_1.jpg

Received from John Rothschild of San Francisco the following stores for General Mess, viz.: 1000 lbs. Ham  200 lbs. Codfish  550 lbs. Oatmeal  400 lbs. Bacon
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Post by: AvastMH on 18 January 2016, 13:48:24
oatmeal fried in bacon fat - so good (sometimes I regret being a veggie  ::) ;) )
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Post by: Janet Jaguar on 18 January 2016, 13:51:39
oatmeal fried in bacon fat - so good (sometimes I regret being a veggie  ::) ;) )

do you cook the oatmeal and then fry it, or deep fry it dry?
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Post by: AvastMH on 18 January 2016, 14:34:53
To my memory (Yorkshire, a loooong time ago) you soak the oatmeal overnight in just enough water to soften the oats. The bacon has been fried in a pan probably the day before. The bacon can go into sandwiches or whatever, the bacon fat is then used for the next meal (might be the next day's breakfast) when the oatmeal is fried in it. Nana B used to put chopped cabbage in with it too and it was served with a poached egg, usually for tea (i.e. dinner)  :P :)
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Post by: Randi on 18 January 2016, 14:47:39
Culture shock to me! ;D
When I was little, oatmeal was, ideally, served with butter and brown sugar.
Of course, now we know that butter and sugar are bad for you, but I still think of it as sweet. I usually make it with half milk and half water and add dried fruit or a bit of jam.
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Post by: Janet Jaguar on 18 January 2016, 14:58:38
Oatmeal Chicago-style usually was cooked with just water and had milk and a pat of butter, brown sugar and possibly fruit as a special treat.  I'm wondering now what it really tastes like with bacon flavor - sounds wonderful.
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Post by: AvastMH on 18 January 2016, 15:39:50
I like your recipes for sweet oats (porridge)...yummy. It's made from rolled oats over here.
Savoury oatmeal is moderately foreign to the southerners in the UK. Although they are really getting into oatmeal biscuits. But Nana B was from Scotland. I'm sure she used oatmeal (very finely chopped oat grains rather than the rolled oats we use for porridge)  :)
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Post by: Janet Jaguar on 18 January 2016, 15:52:01
We can buy both rolled oats and steel-cut oatmeal, both requiring long cooking and those ready-to-eat-almost requiring just a few minutes.  With that many varieties, sweet porridge is clearly popular.  :)
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Post by: AvastMH on 18 January 2016, 16:09:57
If the Scots can stand their weather in a scratchy wool skirt and blue paint - well it's got to be the food of heroes - so of course we eat it  ;) ;) ;D
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Post by: HatterJack on 20 January 2016, 05:50:04
If the Scots can stand their weather in a scratchy wool skirt and blue paint - well it's got to be the food of heroes - so of course we eat it  ;) ;) ;D

I'll be the first to say... the facepaint is far more uncomfortable than the kilt is. After half a day it gets all itchy and starts to crack, but a good breeze can't be beat ;p
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Post by: AvastMH on 20 January 2016, 13:40:04
If the Scots can stand their weather in a scratchy wool skirt and blue paint - well it's got to be the food of heroes - so of course we eat it  ;) ;) ;D

I'll be the first to say... the facepaint is far more uncomfortable than the kilt is. After half a day it gets all itchy and starts to crack, but a good breeze can't be beat ;p

Hatterjack - I bow to your greater knowledge  ;D
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Post by: jd570b on 22 January 2016, 22:03:29
Not a shopping list, just food disposal.

17/06/1887 - http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Jamestown/vol058of067/vol058of067_098_1.jpg
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Condemned by Survey 40 lbs. of Codfish
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Post by: jil on 23 January 2016, 05:58:18
I'm imagining the survey involved hunting through the ship to find the smell  ;)
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Post by: AvastMH on 23 January 2016, 15:01:08
yuk yuk yuk!  :o  :D
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Post by: Dean on 23 January 2016, 19:28:33
I'm imagining the survey involved hunting through the ship to find the smell  ;)

Actually it was Codfish, not smelt (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smelt_%28fish%29)  ::) :P ;)
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Post by: Bob on 23 January 2016, 19:59:52
Boo!  ;D

Actually it was Codfish, not smelt (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smelt_%28fish%29)  ::) :P ;)
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Post by: jil on 24 January 2016, 03:33:54
 ;D :P ;D
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Post by: Randi on 24 January 2016, 04:58:28
That skinks (http://www.thefreedictionary.com/skink) ::)
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Post by: AvastMH on 24 January 2016, 06:18:21
sorry - you mean they smelt skinks?  :-\ ( ;D ;D ;D )
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Post by: Dean on 24 January 2016, 12:58:28
OK, enough PUNishment!! Back to the Logs!!!!  ::) ;)
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Post by: AvastMH on 24 January 2016, 14:48:09
Yes boss  ;)
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Post by: jd570b on 30 January 2016, 19:36:36
14/07/1887 - http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Jamestown/vol058of067/vol058of067_127_1.jpg
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Received on board in pay Department:
182 1/2 lbs of fresh beef
182 1/2 lbs of vegetables
146 lbs of fresh bread
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Post by: AvastMH on 31 January 2016, 06:26:33
Sounds hopeful! Nice beef stew with a bit hunk of bread...yum  :)
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Post by: jd570b on 31 January 2016, 19:30:16
Saute the beef in a refogado, a little rum for the cook, add a picante molho de pimenta, a little more rum for the cook, stir in the veggies, more rum for cook, add some more picante pimenta, more rmu fer cook, mure picante, mre rum, lot mire urum, hic  ;D   ::)  ;D

I've actually made myself hungry, a nice stew with plenty of hot peppers would be nice right now.  Not much for rum though.  It's cold here, so maybe some peppermint Schnapps.  :o  :o   ;D
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Post by: Randi on 01 February 2016, 02:21:51
 ;D
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Post by: AvastMH on 01 February 2016, 14:18:29
 ;D ;D ;D
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Post by: jd570b on 01 February 2016, 21:11:38
18/07/1887 - http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Jamestown/vol058of067/vol058of067_131_1.jpg
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Condemned fresh beef. Received in pay department 146 lbs of fresh bread and 182 1/2 lbs of fresh vegetables.
What was the line from 'O Brother Where Art Thou' ....... "I believe this horse has started to turn"......
Looks like vegetable soup tonight boys!!!  :o  ???  ::)  ;D
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Post by: AvastMH on 02 February 2016, 17:04:10
 ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Post by: jd570b on 04 February 2016, 19:27:31
28/07/1887 - http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Jamestown/vol058of067/vol058of067_141_1.jpg
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Received on board fresh provisions for crew, also following stores in pay department:
12 mess kettles
8 bxs coffee

Recd in Pay Department:
6 bxs Butter
36 bxs Meat
15 bxs Pickles
4 box Cocoa
4 bxs Tea
9 bxs vegetables
2 bxs Ham

Received in Pay-department:
21 sacks Sugar
2 sacks Rice
20 boxes Raisins
3 bales Cloth
Soft rice porridge? :P   Pickles and cocoa...Mmmmm...  :o
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Post by: Helen J on 05 February 2016, 10:33:11
I think chocolate rice pudding to follow some ham and pickles might be more to my taste ...
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Post by: Randi on 05 February 2016, 11:10:16
"Pickles and cocoa..."
Urp!
AOL - Absent Over Lunch
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Post by: leelaht on 05 February 2016, 12:09:04
I thought that too!  Looks like a relish tray, cookies, and beverages.
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Post by: AvastMH on 05 February 2016, 14:58:19
Pickles?! Stand aside I'M COMING THROUGH, FORK AT THE READY  :P :P :D
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Post by: jd570b on 06 February 2016, 18:05:41
No pickles today! :(  Plenty of water though.
29/07/1887 - http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Jamestown/vol058of067/vol058of067_142_1.jpg
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Recd in Pay Dept:
175 lbs Beef
175 lbs. Vegetables
140 lbs Beef

30/07/1887 - http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Jamestown/vol058of067/vol058of067_143_1.jpg
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Received in Pay Department:
177 lbs. Beef
177 lbs. Vegetables
192 lbs. Bread
6,500 galls. of fresh water
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Post by: Randi on 07 February 2016, 03:50:59
Joan got to them first ;)
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Post by: AvastMH on 07 February 2016, 15:44:51
num num num     burp   num num num  yummy pickles  ;)
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Post by: jd570b on 07 February 2016, 19:57:33
01/08/1887 - http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Jamestown/vol058of067/vol058of067_145_1.jpg
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Received on board in Pay Department, for use of crew:
175 lbs. fresh beef
175 lbs. vegetables
140 lbs. fresh bread
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Post by: Tegwen on 09 February 2016, 16:28:23
From the logs of HMS SUVA

10.30am: Court of Inquiry assembled on board regarding loss of fresh meat. Court consisted of Commander and three Lieutenants from HMS MINTO
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ADM%2053-61873/ADM%2053-61873-010_0.jpg

Frustratingly nothing is mentioned in SUVA's log about the loss and we dont have Minto's to check whether the incident happend on board her, but someone will be eating vege stew in 1916 in the Red Sea.
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Post by: AvastMH on 09 February 2016, 16:33:30
Bet that meat loss went down badly with the crew  :o  Fishing lines out!  :D
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Post by: Hurlock on 10 February 2016, 01:04:40
Albatross
August 1st, Bering Island, 1896

At 3.00 started all hands fishing with cod lines: caught a great many cod.

Can we help?
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Post by: jil on 10 February 2016, 03:27:21
 ;D
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Post by: HatterJack on 10 February 2016, 07:12:04
Culture shock to me! ;D
When I was little, oatmeal was, ideally, served with butter and brown sugar.
Of course, now we know that butter and sugar are bad for you, but I still think of it as sweet. I usually make it with half milk and half water and add dried fruit or a bit of jam.

Late to the party, due to catching up after my absence, but...

I present Bacon Oatmeal Breakfast Cookies!

Imagine if you will, an oatmeal cookie.

Now imagine that cookie with a dash of cinnamon and brown sugar.

Now add some maple syrup for extra flavor.

And then comes the fun part. Crispy bacon either diced into bits or shredded because it's fun to shred bacon.

Throw that in the cookie too.

Serve with either poached or fried eggs (your preference) an extra rasher of bacon or ten (because bacon), and a piping hot cup of coffee. It's so good.
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Post by: Randi on 10 February 2016, 08:16:11
Tea instead of coffee, please.
I'll be stopping by for breakfast as soon as I have a chance...

Maybe next year ::)
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Post by: HatterJack on 10 February 2016, 08:29:42
Tea instead of coffee, please.
I'll be stopping by for breakfast as soon as I have a chance...

Maybe next year ::)

That's the beauty of the cookie; it goes equally well when paired with a nice earl grey as it does with a cup of coffee.
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Post by: AvastMH on 10 February 2016, 08:57:54
I think I might need persuading of that Hatterjack! About two servings might be enough   :P  :P ;D (What am I saying??!? I'm a non-meat eater  :'(  )
It really does sound yummy though  :D
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Post by: Helen J on 10 February 2016, 09:43:34
Coffee with mine, please, and a poached egg (tiny attempt to make it healthy ....)  Bacon often seems to be a source of temptation for vegetarians - I've known the odd one who claimed that bacon didn't count as meat  :o
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Post by: Caro on 10 February 2016, 14:43:07
An acquaintance once told me that her daughter was vegetarian (like me) but that she ate spaghetti Bolognese occasionally.  :o :P
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Post by: AvastMH on 10 February 2016, 14:51:58
Coffee with mine, please, and a poached egg (tiny attempt to make it healthy ....)  Bacon often seems to be a source of temptation for vegetarians - I've known the odd one who claimed that bacon didn't count as meat  :o

An acquaintance once told me that her daughter was vegetarian (like me) but that she ate spaghetti Bolognese occasionally.  :o :P

Yes I heard that bacon is an honorary vegetable on Saturday mornings, giving the baton to chickens for Sunday lunch  ::)
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Post by: leelaht on 15 February 2016, 20:00:05
from Thetis, Mare Island Cal, Aug 10, 1893

2108# sugar
1800# soap
200# corned beef
102 gals beans
624# mutton
1728# asst vegetables
792# butter
900# candles
240# roast beef
300# lunch hams
520# brawn (?)
56# prunes
96 gals syrup
1000# tobacco
1400# glour (flour?)
918# tomatoes
282# rice
168# salmon
627# pickles
30 gals vinegar
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Post by: Randi on 16 February 2016, 04:11:59
To me, a pickle is a cucumber that has been pickled, but that may not always be/have been the case:
Quote from: http://www.thefreedictionary.com/pickle
1. (Cookery) (often plural) vegetables, such as cauliflowers, onions, etc, preserved in vinegar, brine, etc
2. (Cookery) any food preserved in this way
3. (Cookery) a liquid or marinade, such as spiced vinegar, for preserving vegetables, meat, fish, etc
4. (Cookery) chiefly US and Canadian a cucumber that has been preserved and flavoured in a pickling solution, such as brine or vinegar
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Post by: HatterJack on 17 February 2016, 08:23:59
Pickles are really anything that is preserved through prolonged submersion in a brine/vinegar solution. What we Americans call pickles are a specific type of pickled cucumber, and are more widely known worldwide as gherkins, after the species of cucumber most typically pickled in the ways that we're accustomed to (dill, sweet, etc.). I don't really know why I know this, as I'm not particularly fond of pickled anything (except pickled sausages for some weird reason), but there it is.
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Post by: AvastMH on 17 February 2016, 09:39:20
 :P :P :P
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Post by: jd570b on 21 February 2016, 18:38:59
Jamestown (1886)
22/08/1887 - http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Jamestown/vol058of067/vol058of067_166_1.jpg
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Received on board in Pay Department for use of ships company 177 fresh beef and vegetables each and 142 lbs fresh bread.
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Post by: jd570b on 22 February 2016, 17:26:43
Jamestown (1886)
23/08/1887 - http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Jamestown/vol058of067/vol058of067_167_1.jpg
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Received in Pay Dept "177 lbs fresh Beef 177 lbs fresh vegetables and 142 lbs fresh Bread."
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Post by: AvastMH on 23 February 2016, 13:35:32
I've probably missed something here - this food is not in lieu of pay is it?  :-\
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Post by: Randi on 23 February 2016, 13:50:50
It seems like supplies are often received in the Pay Dept - I suppose that is where they pay for supplies?

Matteo found this document earlier...
Quote from: http://www.history.navy.mil/research/library/online-reading-room/title-list-alphabetically/e/enlistment-training-organization-crews-our-new-ships.html
purchase such extras as with the fresh provisions issued by the pay department in port will insure good living
:-\
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Post by: AvastMH on 23 February 2016, 14:05:33
interesting - thanks Randi  :D
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Post by: Helen J on 25 February 2016, 13:32:56
Jamestown, 9th September 1887, somewhere between Madeira and New York:

Condemned by Quarterly board of Survey and ordered thrown overboard 36 lbs Codfish.

http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Jamestown/vol058of067/vol058of067_184_1.jpg

I can't help wondering how ghastly it was if they only surveyed the food every quarter ....  :o
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Post by: AvastMH on 25 February 2016, 15:21:05
 :o :o :o 

I'm still struggling with the idea that they had gone-off codfish (anyone remember Unhygienix and his fish from Lutetia from Asterix The Gaul?)
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Post by: HatterJack on 25 February 2016, 22:23:11
That poor fishmonger... constantly seeing his fish derided and used as missiles :(
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Post by: jd570b on 04 March 2016, 16:12:11
Albatross (1900)
21/03/1905 - http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Albatross/vol040of055/vol040of055_151_1.jpg
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Received on board for general Mess from Chas. Hardy: 25# Mutton Chops, 35# Boil Beef, 25 # mutton stew, 1/2 # Vegetables.

Mmmmm Mutton chops :P
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Post by: Randi on 04 March 2016, 16:40:26
Half a pound of vegetables?
Then again, half a pound of garlic might go pretty far ;)
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Post by: AvastMH on 04 March 2016, 16:53:01
 ;D ;D ;D
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Post by: jd570b on 09 March 2016, 18:14:14
17/10/1887 - http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Jamestown/vol059of067/vol059of067_034_1.jpg
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Received in Pay Dept, 30 lbs Pork, 4 lbs Beef, 2 bbls Molasses, 9 bbls of Sugar, 6 boxes Butter, and 8 boxes of Coffee.

I have Pennsylvania Dutch recipe somewhere that sounds like this  :D ;D :P
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Post by: Bob on 09 March 2016, 18:47:10
Mmmm.  8)

17/10/1887 - http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Jamestown/vol059of067/vol059of067_034_1.jpg
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Received in Pay Dept, 30 lbs Pork, 4 lbs Beef, 2 bbls Molasses, 9 bbls of Sugar, 6 boxes Butter, and 8 boxes of Coffee.

I have Pennsylvania Dutch recipe somewhere that sounds like this  :D ;D :P
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Post by: jd570b on 20 March 2016, 18:13:07
Jamestown (1886)
28/10/1887 - http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Jamestown/vol059of067/vol059of067_050_1.jpg
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Received on board in Bureau of Equipt and Recruit:
105 boxes Corned beef
21 boxes Canned Mutton
45 boxes Brawn
83 boxes Sausage
200 boxes Soap
36 boxes Tobacco
84 boxes Vegetables
168 boxes S~am.
I think I hear a Monty Python sketch....... ;D ;D ;D ;D ???
OK, brawn = head cheese.  I can't make out the product on the last line. I know that Spam wasn't on the market until 1937.

Received on board in Pay Dept:
Quote
616 lbs Canned Ham
1055 lbs Bacon
1008 lbs Sausage meat
792 lbs Canned Vegetables
503 Cap ribbons
190 Towels
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Post by: AvastMH on 21 March 2016, 11:49:21
This is so delightfully eccentric. And I'd certainly agree with its Monty Pythonesque-ness  ;D

PS - I can't make out that last item either  :-\
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Post by: leelaht on 14 April 2016, 21:47:41
Thetis, Aug 30, 1895 at Mare Island:

2800 lbs biscuit
100 lbs fruit
71 lbs butter
1824 lbs tomatoes
528 lbs beef (tinned)
528 lbs mutton (tinned)
400 lbs corned beef (tinned)
50 lbs tea
3184 lbs sugar
1200 lbs candles
424 lbs vegetables (tinned)

[As in many ingredient lists today, sugar is the largest proportion... and vegetables and fruits the smallest. ]
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Post by: Hurlock on 15 April 2016, 01:53:21
They could be making a birthday cake for someone and putting candles on it.  Shame they forgot the flour.  They may have to ice the biscuits instead. 
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Post by: AvastMH on 15 April 2016, 15:27:04
50 lbs tea
3184 lbs sugar

I'm trying to work out how many teaspoons per cuppa that must be.  :P  ;D
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Post by: Bob on 15 April 2016, 16:35:04
34  :o

I'm sure they have other uses for the sugar.  ;)

50 lbs tea
3184 lbs sugar

I'm trying to work out how many teaspoons per cuppa that must be.  :P  ;D
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Post by: AvastMH on 15 April 2016, 16:45:04
yeeeeuuuuuurrrrrrggggghhhhhh - I really hope so! 34  :o
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Post by: Caro on 19 April 2016, 04:42:26
https://www.zooniverse.org/projects/zooniverse/old-weather/talk/161/12848?comment=100091  :)
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Post by: Randi on 19 April 2016, 07:56:18
 ;D
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Post by: AvastMH on 20 December 2016, 17:03:25
The Whaler Alexander (log Alexander5)

(http://i.imgur.com/Th1Vsgg.png)

Deeply concerned at this list - Monday 22nd September they use 1 Box of Unions - there's got to be an amusing political joke in there some place.
However the corrected Tuesday 28 October selection of a half barrel of Bee Tongues is even more mind boggling...   ;D
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Post by: Bob on 20 December 2016, 17:21:29
The Whaler Alexander (log Alexander5)

Deeply concerned at this list - Monday 22nd September they use 1 Box of Unions - there's got to be an amusing political joke in there some place.
However the corrected Tuesday 28 October selection of a half barrel of Bee Tongues is even more mind boggling...   ;D

The (mis)spelling in this one will keep everyone on their toes.  ;)
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Post by: Randi on 20 December 2016, 17:31:08
To be fair, in the American tongue we do say un-nions and not on-nions ;)

Hopefully the writer only got a stinging rebuke for those errors and was not sent off.
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Post by: AvastMH on 20 December 2016, 17:34:38
To be fair, in the American tongue we do say un-nions and not on-nions ;)

Hopefully the writer only got a stinging rebuke for those errors and was not sent off.

Stinging rebuke....grooooaan  ;D

Yep - the spelling is fantastic. Perfectly gud if taken fonetically - perhaps we hav a dislecksik on our hands?  :-\
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Post by: Dean on 22 December 2016, 19:12:39
Eye halve a spelling checker
It came with my pea sea
It plane lea marks four my revue
Miss steaks eye kin knot sea

Eye strike a key and type a  word
And weight for it to say
Weather eye am wrong oar write
It shows me strait a weigh

As soon as a mist ache is maid
It nose bee fore two long
And eye can put the error rite
It?s rare lea ever wrong.

Eye have run this poem threw it
I am shore your pleased two no
It?s let her perfect awl the weigh
My checker tolled me sew.

Martha Snow

 ;)
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Post by: AvastMH on 23 December 2016, 12:46:51
 ;D ;D ;D  Ah - my log keeper must be Martha's brother then!
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Post by: AvastMH on 17 June 2017, 19:23:21
7th July 1934 (https://catalog.archives.gov/id/7284532) on Bear - just the sort of news that makes my day end with a laugh, but I bet someone got an earful for this on the Bear. If the navigation's a bit off for the next few days here's the Chef's reason why...

(http://i.imgur.com/I4BvaqH.png)

At 3:00 [PM] plate blown up stack from galley carrying away radio direction finder antenna.

Not quite in the galley then, but I'm still wondering exactly what the chef was cooking up to blow a plate that far up the chimney stack  ;D
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Post by: Michael on 17 June 2017, 20:24:11
 ;D ;D ;D
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Post by: Randi on 17 June 2017, 20:47:51
Forget the radio. What about dinner?!
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Post by: Michael on 17 June 2017, 21:14:55
Forget the radio. What about dinner?!

Exactly. I'm glad someone else has a sense of priorities!  ;D
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Post by: AvastMH on 18 June 2017, 08:26:37
You'd want to eat the thing that sent the plate up the chimney? :o
 ;D ;D ;D
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Post by: Randi on 18 June 2017, 08:40:30
I eat my own cooking ::)
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Post by: AvastMH on 18 June 2017, 11:00:11
 ;D ;D ;D
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Post by: jd570b on 24 September 2018, 15:44:54
Mmmm....Ham biscuits with fixin's

Revenue Cutter Bear
1899-09-07
St. Micheals

9 AM to 4 PM
Quote
Received following stores to replace extra provisions issued to miners, from ships rations: 74 lbs canned fresh meat, 65 lbs Chicago corned beef, 27 lbs of ham, and 160 lbs of biscuit.
https://catalog.archives.gov/OpaAPI/media/6919225/content/arcmedia/dc-metro/rg-026/585454-noaa/bear/vol081/26-159A-bear-vol081_132.jpg
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Post by: Randi on 24 September 2018, 16:03:16
"canned fresh meat" ?!
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Post by: AvastMH on 24 September 2018, 18:28:35
"canned fresh meat" ?!

 ;D ;D ;D
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Post by: Bob on 25 September 2018, 08:04:52
Quote
..., in the "old days" people did can [fresh] meat in a boiling water bath for 3 hours, but this was NEVER SAFE and people always risked food poisoning by doing this. You must use a pressure canner to home can meat. Meat may be canned in quarts, pints, or half-pint jars.

 :o
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Post by: Michael on 25 September 2018, 18:07:59
Many years ago I had many meals of canned moose meat. I highly recommend it.  :)
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Post by: AvastMH on 26 September 2018, 17:49:43
Any recipes come to mind Michael?  :D
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Post by: Michael on 26 September 2018, 18:56:36
Open the jar. (It was home canned.) Heat the meat. Use the liquid to make gravy. Serve with mashed potatoes and fresh veg. Fruit pie and ice cream for desert. Wine pairing: Cab Sav. Beer pairing: a good I. P. A.
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Post by: Hurlock on 01 October 2018, 12:47:49
Bear November 1st 1891
https://catalog.archives.gov/OpaAPI/media/6919212/content/arcmedia/dc-metro/rg-026/585454-noaa/bear/vol070/26-159A-bear-vol070_038.jpg
By order of Commanding Officer, served new rations received for Revenue Str. "Rush", in lieu of old rations on hand.
 :o :-X
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Post by: Randi on 01 October 2018, 12:58:15
:o ;D
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Post by: AvastMH on 01 October 2018, 17:31:19
Even though they are probably in the cold Arctic, the idea of 'old rations on hand.' sounds a bit stomach churning  :P :o :(
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Post by: jd570b on 03 October 2018, 17:38:48
Revenue Cutter Bear
1899-09-27
Nome
4-8PM
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Gave one pound pork, 3 sacks beans, 2 cases biscuits, to Frederick Larsen, in payment for dog and services rendered Relief Expedition
https://catalog.archives.gov/OpaAPI/media/6919225/content/arcmedia/dc-metro/rg-026/585454-noaa/bear/vol081/26-159A-bear-vol081_152.jpg

What happened to the dog? ??? ??? ???
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Post by: AvastMH on 03 October 2018, 18:33:28
What happened to the dog? ??? ??? ???

I tried looking up a suitable recipe courtesy of Mr Amundsen, but no luck  ;) :o
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Post by: Helen J on 07 October 2018, 13:29:05
Welland, in February 1915, has just taken a voyage from Tenedos towards Sigri for what seems to be the sole purpose of buying some vegetables from a French minesweeper ....  I hope they cooked them with great care and didn't boil them to death.
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Post by: AvastMH on 31 October 2018, 17:57:03
Welland, in February 1915, has just taken a voyage from Tenedos towards Sigri for what seems to be the sole purpose of buying some vegetables from a French minesweeper ....  I hope they cooked them with great care and didn't boil them to death.

As a vegetarian I must approve of this action wholeheartedly.  ;D
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Post by: AvastMH on 31 October 2018, 17:58:04
The whaler Mary and Susan.
Around July 1881. Everything except the flour is measured. Oh well - I guess if you've made a cake batter before you'll know what to aim for  8)

(https://i.imgur.com/VfeO37n.png)
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Post by: Randi on 31 October 2018, 18:25:00
8) 8) 8)

Tester available ;)
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Post by: Randi on 12 January 2019, 22:23:35
Hash browns anyone?

Quote from: https://catalog.archives.gov/OpaAPI/media/7284557/content/arcmedia/dc-metro/rg-026/585454-noaa/159a/thetis/vol602/26-159A-thetis-vol602_145.jpg
Boating off potatoes from shore for crew.

Purchased and received from the North American Trading and Transportation Co 2600 lbs potatoes and 800 lbs onions in the sum of 80.50 dollars.

Sounds like quite a bargin!
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Post by: Randi on 13 January 2019, 13:32:50
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Held board of survey, condemned and expended 1 bbl salt beef 200 lbs
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Post by: Randi on 15 January 2019, 22:46:48
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8 sacks potatoes, 4 sacks onions, 100 lbs cabbage and 200 lbs beef in the sum of $62.89
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Post by: Randi on 17 January 2019, 21:54:00
Following year, after arriving in Alaska from Hawaii:
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Held Board of Survey on certain rations and condemned 4500 # potatoes + 200 # onions which were found decayed.
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Post by: AvastMH on 18 January 2019, 08:21:43
Quote from: https://catalog.archives.gov/OpaAPI/media/7284557/content/arcmedia/dc-metro/rg-026/585454-noaa/159a/thetis/vol602/26-159A-thetis-vol602_175.jpg
8 sacks potatoes, 4 sacks onions, 100 lbs cabbage and 200 lbs beef in the sum of $62.89

Sounds like an epic Bubble-and-Squeak cook up to me. Hope I can get an invite!  :o ;D
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Post by: AvastMH on 14 January 2020, 17:25:41
A couple of food oddities from Capt H H Bodfish's book 'Chasing the Bowhead'

The Beluga: On Thanksgiving Day 1897 (November 27th) 'the crew shot and ate Mrs Collins'.  :o :o :o  She weighed 250 lbs. Don't panic - she was the ship's pig.  ::) :D

Early the next spring (and still stuck in the same place in ice) the Beluga was visited by Prof Andrew Jackson Stone, a likely relative of Senator Stone of Missouri, on an expedition for the American Museum of Natural History. Stone and companion arrived at Beluga with two small fish for themselves and their dogs. Their chief article of food had been flour bannock, about the same as a thick pancake. They had with them a new-fangled 30-30 rifle which had penetrated 52 inches into a log of cottonwood from 10 paces. They set up seven bannocks on end and repeated the rifle trial - the bullet made it through just three of the bannocks. Bodfish comments 'That's the sort of fodder that kept men alive on the Arctic trails'.  :-X :o ;D
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Post by: Michael on 14 January 2020, 17:38:39
 8)
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Post by: AvastMH on 26 May 2020, 14:45:41

I know that the whalers are brave and go into the teeth of Arctic winds, seas, and ice, but I have just discovered that they are equally challenged in the culinary arts. It hardly seems fair that so many troubles are poured upon them. However just south of the Diomedes in the Bering Straits and struggling for home, on 2nd October 1881 (https://archive.org/details/atlanticbarkofne00atla/page/28/mode/1up) the Bk Atlantic is confounded by the infamous 'Strong N Currant'

(https://imgur.com/mQ4DR4m.png)

Dangerous...be warned  ;)  :o
(https://imgur.com/W1f89Me.png)

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Post by: Michael on 26 May 2020, 15:51:38
 ;D ;D ;D