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Title: American Burials at sea and other recorded deaths...
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 27 October 2012, 13:29:16
I'm thinking, we need a memorial place to honor our American dead;  the original post is still live, when editors find mentions of the dead not in there, they want to still use it to honor.

So I'm starting this one.  Some stories like the first one here, truly belong in their ship's discussion thread as part of the history.  But a memorial for them is also appropriate.





Burial at sea - United States Navy:
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If the deceased died on land or has been returned to shore after death, the remains may be brought aboard either in a coffin or in an urn after cremation. The ceremony is performed while the ship is deployed, and consequently civilians are not allowed to be present. In the USA, people eligible for a free Navy burial at sea are:

    Active-duty members of the uniformed services
    Retirees and honorably discharged veterans
    Military Sealift Command U.S. civilian marine personnel
    Family members of the above

In preparation, the officer of the deck calls All hands bury the dead, and the ship is stopped (if possible). The ship's flags are lowered to half mast. The ship's crew, including a firing party, casket bearers and a bugler, are assembled on the deck. The crew stands at parade rest at the beginning of the ceremony. The coffin is covered with a flag, and is carried feet first on deck by the casket bearers. The casket is placed on a stand, with the feet overboard. In case of cremated remains, the urn is brought on deck and put on a stand.

The ceremony is divided into a military portion and a religious portion. The religious part is specific to the religion of the deceased, and may be performed by a chaplain, or by the commanding officer if no chaplain of the appropriate faith is available. A scripture is read and prayers are said.

After the religious ceremony, the firing party is ordered Firing party, Present Arms. The casket bearers tilt the platform with the casket, so that the casket slides off the platform into the ocean. The flag which was draped over the casket is retained on board. For cremated remains, there is the option to bury the remains using the urn in a similar fashion to the procedure used for caskets. Alternatively, the urn can be opened, and the remains scattered in the wind. In this case, the wind direction has to be taken under consideration before burial to ensure a smooth procedure.

The firing party fires three volleys, the bugler plays Taps, and flowers may also be dropped into the ocean. After the flag is folded, the ceremony ends. The relatives will be informed of the time and location of the burial, and given photos and video recordings if available.
http://encyclopedia.thefreedictionary.com/Burial+at+sea
Title: Re: American Burials at sea and other recorded deaths...
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 27 October 2012, 13:33:43
Oscar Hart, Chief Engineer "Pioneer", rest in peace.

Pioneer 1922 List of officers:
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USCS%20Pioneer/Book%201%20-%20April-July,%201922/IMG_7777_0.jpg

Suddenly it all gets more serious - record of an accident to two of the crew:
A serious accident occurred on board.  The chief engineer and H.B. Fenner Chief Asst Eng were working in the chill room of the refrigerating plant, running live steam into the water in the scuttle butt inside the chill room in order to boil out this tank. The heat apparently expanded the ammonia in the coils in the tank causing an explosion. The tank was blown up from the dock, all of the connecting piping was blown in parts, the wall of the ice box was blown out at least a foot and the wall of the inner ice box was blown in slightly. Both men were badly hurt, the Chief Engineer was burned in the feet and legs and slightly on the arms, and was cut on the side of the head, and was almost stunned. Fenner was burned on feet and legs and arms. Prentglau, Asst to Eng 1 cl has just stepped out and while jarred was not hurt. Gotshall, Sea. who assisted in dragging the Chief Engineer out inhaled some ammonia. Chief Engineer Hart and Fenner were rushed to Cramp's Hospital where first aid treatment was given and at 3.30pm were removed to the St Agnes Hospital in charge of the Public Health Service.  The Chief Engineer had inhaled ammonia and his lungs, eyes and mouth were in danger. The ammonia was blown out and the ice machine stopped. An inspector was on board from 2.30pm to 5.00 pm from the York Mfg Co.

http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USCS%20Pioneer/Book%202%20-%20July-October,%201922/IMG_7877_1.jpg

Sadly Chief Engineer Hart died in hospital a few days later:
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USCS%20Pioneer/Book%202%20-%20July-October,%201922/IMG_7879_1.jpg

And just to complete the story, the following day:
Board of Investigation composed of Peters, H & G Eng, R R Lukens, H & G Eng and Morris, Chief Engineer was in session on board during the morning investigating the causes and results of the accident which occured Friday July 7, 1922.
and:
Chief Engineer Hart's clothes and effects were gathered together, packed and one trunk, one suitcase and one package sent to his home. Valuables as follows were found and returned, to be sent over by an officer. Watch #1426100 with chain; Keyring and keys; Ideal Fountain Pen; $11.00 refund from W.R. Mess; $11.87 found in his clothing; One book of stamps.
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USCS%20Pioneer/Book%202%20-%20July-October,%201922/IMG_7880_1.jpg

All unbearably poignant - I think I need to go and do something else for a bit .... :'( :'(
Title: Re: American Burials at sea and other recorded deaths...
Post by: Helen J on 27 October 2012, 14:28:24
Thanks for setting this up, Janet.  It feels good to have somewhere to remember these men.
Title: Re: American Burials at sea and other recorded deaths...
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 27 October 2012, 15:15:06
I admit, I like having the long stories in that ship's thread.  But there is nothing wrong with quoting or giving the link here.  It makes the remembrance special somehow, for the person alone.
Title: Re: American Burials at sea and other recorded deaths...
Post by: studentforever on 27 October 2012, 16:19:03
It also means that anyone doing family research can hunt in one place and see if we have anything to offer them (yet).  After all, the log pages aren't searchable at the moment while our forum entries are.  I think this will become a very useful resource as well as being our own form of memorial.
Title: Re: American Burials at sea and other recorded deaths...
Post by: Helen J on 29 October 2012, 12:26:04
Pioneer, 15th August 1922:

A card received by Martel Wireless opr, from Miss Alberta Williams, stating that O. J Cobb oiler had died in Philadelphia Marine Hospital at 10.45am Sunday August 13 1922. Office & nearest relation Mrs Sarah Cobb notified by telegraph.

http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USCS%20Pioneer/Book%202%20-%20July-October,%201922/IMG_7916_0.jpg
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Post by: AvastMH on 29 October 2012, 14:02:57
I just took a gander at the following pages - what's happening to your crew Helenj - they are all ending up in hospitals?  Seems too late for Spanish flu...wonder what it was - August 21 is bad.  :o :o
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Post by: Helen J on 29 October 2012, 16:53:15
I'm wondering whether it's typhoid - they've had someone medical come on board as part of an investigation into an outbreak at one of the hospitals which they had crew in, then they were all marched off to be inoculated, and the two who refused were discharged on the spot.  Which sounds like it was really serious.
I'm back at college now (it's been half term weekend) so won't have as much time to transcribe this week .....  Need to find out what happens though - sleep may have to be sacrificed!
Title: Re: American Burials at sea and other recorded deaths...
Post by: Helen J on 31 October 2012, 15:13:17
Yes, typhoid it is - I've posted a whole saga in Pioneer's own thread.  They've had doctors coming on board for several days to take samples etc, and today several crew members have been taken off to hospital as potential typhoid carriers.
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Post by: Pommy Stuart on 05 November 2012, 04:00:39
02/06/1891 Concord.

Moses Wright (ch) and Jas Fletcher (2ch). Died when a boiler steam pipe burst.

R.I.P.
Title: Re: American Burials at sea and other recorded deaths...
Post by: lollia paolina on 07 December 2012, 05:19:39
USRS Vicksburg, April 27th, 1989; at sea making passage from Norfolk Va, to Key West, Fla

"While securing sail at 6.15 [pm] W. H. Touchfield (Boatswain?s Mate 2nd class) was swept overboard and was drowned. Life buoy was dropped, but by order of Commanding Officer no boat was lowered owing to the condition of the sea."

http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Vicksburg/vol004of023_jpg_clean/vol004of23_013_1.jpg

Here is the link to the page with weather logs for the day:
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Vicksburg/vol004of023_jpg_clean/vol004of23_013_0.jpg

Rest in peace W H Touchfield
Title: Re: American Burials at sea and other recorded deaths...
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 07 December 2012, 06:44:48
Force 9 winds are a very serious storm.

Rest in Peace, W. H. Touchfield.
Title: Re: American Burials at sea and other recorded deaths...
Post by: DJ_59 on 07 December 2012, 18:59:59

:(  Poor W.H., seeing the boat steam away like that.
Title: Re: American Burials at sea and other recorded deaths...
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 12 January 2013, 19:13:47
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Yorktown/vol002of040_jpg_clean/vol002of040_149_0.jpg
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Yorktown/vol002of040_jpg_clean/vol002of040_149_1.jpg
Navy Yard, N.Y.

On 2 November 1889 Frank Torsch (seaman) was transferred to the Naval Hospital, where he died on the 4th.
Two days later, 6 November 1889, 7 hands have been digging a grave for him in the morning.
Frank Torsch was buried in the afternoon.

Former Brooklyn Navy Yard Cemetery:
http://inhabitat.com/nyc/former-brooklyn-navy-yard-cemetery-to-be-transformed-into-memorial-park/
Title: Re: American Burials at sea and other recorded deaths...
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 13 January 2013, 03:02:27
I did some research on the cemetery, because it struck me has very odd that crew would have to be sent to dig the grave in any church or city cemetery.  But this was neither - it was a strictly Navy cemetery connected to the Naval Hospital.  And amazingly, still not built over with skyscrapers but available to be a memorial park.
Title: Re: American Burials at sea and other recorded deaths...
Post by: Randi on 23 January 2013, 08:58:53
(LCVP see: http://forum.oldweather.org/index.php?topic=3448.msg60200#msg60200)
Title: Re: American Burials at sea and other recorded deaths...
Post by: propriome on 23 January 2013, 09:34:02
Sorry for posting it on the wrong thread... I've just removed and posted it here, with an additional note of Gillis burial at sea on 31 May:

CGC Unalga (II), May 1947

29 May 1947 (http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USRC%20Unalga/b0148_cr2_to_jpg/b0148_174_1.jpg):
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16.55: LCVP #5 departed with Doctor Severson James and five (5) men to get a sick man from the Schooner C.A. THAYER.
17.45: BOAT returned with all men and sick man. A. C. GILLIS of Seattle Washington for transportation to Dutch Harbor.

30 May 1947 (http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USRC%20Unalga/b0148_cr2_to_jpg/b0148_175_1.jpg):
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06.50: Patient A. C. GILLIS who was taken aboard, for medical treatment from Schooner C. A. THAYER, Died.

31 May 1947 (http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USRC%20Unalga/b0148_cr2_to_jpg/b0148_176_1.jpg):
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07.05: Held burial service at sea for A. C. GILLIS, who died on board as noted in log of 30 May 1947, at 54o 42' N, 163o-56' W
Title: Re: American Burials at sea and other recorded deaths...
Post by: Randi on 23 January 2013, 09:38:56
(I did the same thing with LCVP ;D)
Title: Re: American Burials at sea and other recorded deaths...
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 23 January 2013, 11:58:31
Not a problem, Propriome.  I deleted my copy here, your entry is more complete.  Organizing the forum is the moderators problem, the members shouldn't have to worry about that. :)

Rest in Peace, A.C. Gillis.
Title: Re: American Burials at sea and other recorded deaths...
Post by: Kevin on 23 January 2013, 12:25:04
The C.A. Thayer has recently been restored and is at the San Francisco Maritime Museum.

http://www.nps.gov/safr/historyculture/c-a-thayer.htm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/C.A._Thayer_(1895) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/C.A._Thayer_(1895))
Title: Re: American Burials at sea and other recorded deaths...
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 23 January 2013, 12:56:42
Cool.  She was fishing for cod in 1947.

http://www.nps.gov/safr/historyculture/upload/safr-th07Updated_R2_g.pdf
Title: Re: American Burials at sea and other recorded deaths...
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 03 February 2013, 01:14:02
A death from Concord, at the Brooklyn Naval Yard Hospital:
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Concord/vol012of040/vol012of040_042_1.jpg  Meridian to 4 pm, 5th line.

From Ancestry.com
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Name:   August T Bumann
Service Info.:   LDS US NAVY
Death Date:   24 Sep 1891
Cemetery:   Cypress Hills National Cemetery
Cemetery Address:   625 Jamaica Avenue Brooklyn, NY 11208
Buried At:   Section 6 Site 12339

Rest in Peace, August T Bumann.
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Post by: Maikel on 13 February 2013, 15:23:05
On 2 February 1890 at 2.30am 1st Sergeant Arthur S. Crane U.S.M.C. died on U.S.S. Yorktown, whilst in the port of Mahon, Menorca, Spain.

Later that day he has been buried on the American Cemetery at Mahon.
Immediately after the Yorktown set sail for Toulon, France.

http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Yorktown/vol003of040_cr2_to_jpg/vol003of040_040_1.jpg (http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Yorktown/vol003of040_cr2_to_jpg/vol003of040_040_1.jpg)
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Post by: AvastMH on 13 February 2013, 15:28:41
RIP  1st Sergeant Arthur S. Crane
Title: Re: American Burials at sea and other recorded deaths...
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 13 February 2013, 18:49:07
Records in Ancestry.com indicate he was a 23 year veteran, and senior non-com in charge of Yorktown's marine guard.  He had been ill for about 3 weeks.  They had the Marine muster rolls online.

Rest in Peace, Arthur Crane.

Title: Re: American Burials at sea and other recorded deaths...
Post by: propriome on 18 April 2013, 04:16:41
Unalga (II)

5 December 1946 (http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USRC%20Unalga/b0181_cr2_to_jpg/b0181_084_1.jpg) at Adak Island
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20.01 Corpse of George L. COSTA, SC2/C (339-457) USCG, brought aboard for transportation to Seattle, Wn.

RIP George L. Costa

Edit: The corpse of Costa reached Seattle on 26 December 1946 (http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USRC%20Unalga/b0181_cr2_to_jpg/b0181_108_1.jpg):
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13.15 Corpse of COSTA, George L. transferred to custody of Butterworth Mortuary, Seattle, Wn.
Title: Re: American Burials at sea and other recorded deaths...
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 18 April 2013, 06:37:08
Rest in Peace, George Louis Costa
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Post by: Pommy Stuart on 30 May 2013, 17:36:35
Concord 28 Dec 1893. Shanghai, China.
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Concord/vol016of040/vol016of040_110_1.jpg (http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Concord/vol016of040/vol016of040_110_1.jpg)

Received on board for transfer to USS "Lancaster" one box containing the remains of Lieut Commander Marthon USN., the case was not properly sealed up.

Made visual signals to USS "Monocoey" as follows "The case addressed to Captain McCormick is leaking, send on shore the packer to come on board to stop the leak." "Send a boat at one oclock for a case addressed to Captain McCormick.

Sent box containing the remains of Lieut Commander Marthon on shore to be properly sealed.

Dec 29th.
The box was sent alongside the Concord and again rejected as not being sealed properly.

From "http://www.history.navy.mil/books/callahan/reg-usn-m.htm"
Marthon, Joseph.
Mate, 20 May, 1863. Acting Ensign, 26 October, 1863. Acting Master, recommendation of Commanding Officer, 5 August, 1864. Honorably discharged 31 December, 1865. Acting Master, 19 April, 1866. Ensign, 12 March, 1868. Master, 18 December, 1868. Lieutenant, 21 March, 1870. Lieutenant Commander, 1 July, 1882. Died 19 November, 1891.

Where were the remains kept till Dec 1893 when the Concord transported them?
Why would they leak after 2 years?
Could the date of death be wrong?


RIP Joseph.
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Post by: Pommy Stuart on 30 May 2013, 18:02:15
Concord 29 Dec 1893. Shanghai.
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Concord/vol016of040/vol016of040_111_1.jpg (http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Concord/vol016of040/vol016of040_111_1.jpg)

Notice was received from the English General Hospital of the death at 8:00 am of Henry w. Clark (2cF), transfered from this ship December 25th.

Cause of death was a complication of dysentery, peritonitis and ulcerated intestines disease contracted in line of duty.
 
RIP Henry.
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Post by: Michael on 04 June 2013, 15:36:13
Another death for the Concord:

A Board of which Surgeon W. A. McClurg U.S.N. was Senior Member burned the effects of C. Graham (3rd C. C. M.)
W. Horst (C. P.) and J. Hendrickson (Lds) who had been transferred to the U. S. Naval Hospital. Learned of the death
of J. Hendrickson (Lds) who was transferred to the U. S. Naval Hospital.

This was 19/01/1894 in Yokohama, Japan.

http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Concord/vol016of040/vol016of040_134_1.jpg

Michael
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Post by: Randi on 04 June 2013, 16:45:05
Wow! That sounds rather drastic.
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Post by: Michael on 04 June 2013, 17:28:08
We've been fumigating the berth decks, burning some of the crew's effects, and crew and officers have been prevented
from going on shore or boarding ships that arrive in harbor, although people are being transferred on and off the ship.
Stuart said that there was an outbreak of Varioloid, a mild form of smallpox, reported. However, it hasn't stopped the
Courts Martial or people from doing bad things. :-X

M
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Post by: Michael on 04 June 2013, 17:43:49
More from the second page for 20 Jan 1894:

Signalled to the U.S.F.S.  "Baltimore" routine signal - "10 sick," at 9:30 and by visual signal at 8:30 a.m. -
"Permission is asked to send one man to small-pox Hospital ashore in same way as in previous case".
Reply at 8:40 - "Yes and send Hospital Ticket to Admiral at once".

M
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Post by: Michael on 04 June 2013, 19:35:57
Concord, 21 January 1894

Received official notification of the death at hospital on shore of J. Hendrickson (Lds) at 8:50 A.M. January 19th,
and Carlton Graham (C. M. 3rd Class) at 3:30 A.M. January 21st.

http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Concord/vol016of040/vol016of040_138_1.jpg

Michael
Title: Re: American Burials at sea and other recorded deaths...
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 04 June 2013, 19:58:57
Rest in peace, J. Hendrickson and Carlton Graham. 

They are a long way from home.
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Post by: Pommy Stuart on 15 June 2013, 03:47:23
Concord 28 Feb 1894.
Phillips  J.J., 1st class Fireman,  Rated to Oiler from 1 July 1893.  Died in Shanghai general Hospital from exhaustion 28 Feb 1894.
Title: Re: American Burials at sea and other recorded deaths...
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 15 June 2013, 03:52:55
Rest in Peace, J.J. Phillips
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Post by: AvastMH on 15 June 2013, 09:09:03
Concord 28 Feb 1894.
Phillips  J.J., 1st class Fireman,  Rated to Oiler from 1 July 1893.  Died in Shanghai general Hospital from exhaustion 28 Feb 1894.

What had that boat been up to for a man to die of exhaustion - or is this a euphemism for something else?

Rest in Peace JJ Phillips
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Post by: Janet Jaguar on 15 June 2013, 11:41:02
I don't think they could afford to work everyone to death-by-exhaustion unless they wanted to get stranded in the middle of the Pacific.  Even if they didn't care for the crew's comfort.  But I can imagine a number of medical conditions that would not themselves be seen as dangerous or lethal, but would combine with the working conditions to result in complete system collapse.  If the hospital doesn't know what all is going wrong inside, it could look like exhaustion.
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Post by: Pommy Stuart on 15 June 2013, 23:10:22
They had just been through a dose of Small Pox, but the symptoms are sum what different.
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Post by: Pommy Stuart on 31 July 2013, 01:55:59
Concord 9/08/1894. At anchor off St Paul, Island Pribilov Island
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Concord/vol017of040/vol017of040_146_1.jpg (http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Concord/vol017of040/vol017of040_146_1.jpg)
James Heath (GM 1st class) Died at 02:00 of pyaemia.
RIP James.
At 3:00 PM called 'all hands to bury the dead' and at 3:00 sent the body of James Heath (GM1c) ashore with escort. Halfmast ensign and Jack until escort landed.
Funeral party returned at 5.30.

10 Aug 1894.
8AM to Meridian. Sent party ashore in charge of Lieut Merriam to remove the body of James Heath to another burial place.
The body of the late James Heath was re-interned on the summit of Hutchinson Hill. Seven feet east from the cross and fifty feet south from the stone lookout.

(Pyaemia (or pyemia) is a type of septicaemia that leads to widespread abscesses of a metastatic nature. It is usually caused by the staphylococcus bacteria by pus-forming organisms in the blood.)
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Post by: Janet Jaguar on 31 July 2013, 12:12:28
That sounds like a very painful death.  Rest in Peace, James Heath.

NOAA online archives have a drawing of the view from the final burial site, and someone later made a video (not yet digitized) of his grave.

Click to enlarge:
(http://www.photolib.noaa.gov/bigs/figb0222.jpg)

NOAA Pribilof Islands HD Video Shot Log                                                            
Name   Reel   Location   Date   Tracks   Log Note   Frame Rate   Aud Rate   Aud Format                                    
James Heath grave on Hutchinson Hill   Mist Islands 003   St. Paul Island   Jan-99   1V, 2A         48.0 KHz   16-bit Integer                                    

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Post by: Pommy Stuart on 19 August 2013, 01:29:41
Concord 26 Dec 1894.  Wuhu, Yangtse River, China.

Lathrop,    Wilton Arthur,    Coal Passer,    Transferred from USS "Ranger" 17 Aug 1894. Transferred to Hospital on shore (Wuhu, China) 12 Dec 1894. Died of Typhoid fever at 3AM this day (26 Dec 1894), at the American Methodist Episcopal Mission Hospital.
Buried in the English Cemetery  27 Dec 1894.
RIP Wilton.
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Post by: Janet Jaguar on 19 August 2013, 02:13:26
Rest in Peace, Wilton Lathrop
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Post by: Pommy Stuart on 04 September 2013, 23:33:52
Concord 27 March 1895.
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Concord/vol018of040/vol018of040_203_1.jpg (http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Concord/vol018of040/vol018of040_203_1.jpg)
Edmond Kelly C.P. Fell overboard and is supposed to have drowned as a thorough search which was made for him was unsuccessful.

Later reported on that day as being 'Absent without permission'.
This posting may be a bit premature here

Further to this, http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Concord/vol018of040/vol018of040_207_1.jpg (http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Concord/vol018of040/vol018of040_207_1.jpg)
and
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Concord/vol018of040/vol018of040_208_1.jpg (http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Concord/vol018of040/vol018of040_208_1.jpg)
and
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Concord/vol018of040/vol018of040_209_1.jpg (http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Concord/vol018of040/vol018of040_209_1.jpg)

By finding of Board of Inquiry a verdict of Death by Drowning was declared.

RIP Edmond Kelly.
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Post by: Janet Jaguar on 04 September 2013, 23:55:17
That both explains much, it's sad that there was such a meaningless accident.

Rest in Peace, Edmund Kelly. 
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Post by: asterix135 on 06 September 2013, 10:24:33
For some reason, this crew member's death didn't make it into the log until nearly 2 months after it happened.

One of the Patterson's crew members, Seaman Pierre Guilliame, was lost at sea on August 6, 1913.  (log entries for that period in the voyage around here: http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USCS%20Patterson/Book%2013/IMG_6291_0.jpg).

And on October 29, 1913, they get around to noting it in the logbook and taking up a collection for the guy's family where they raised $50.00 - a little more than the $40.00 monthly wages for a seaman on the Patterson.  Plus $66.90 by auctioning off his personal effects. (http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USCS%20Patterson/Book%2014/IMG_6393_1.jpg)

It's possible he wasn't on the ship at the time of his death as they had sent a group of crew members on shore to a camp for hydrographic/topographic work, and he might have been in that group (they only list the officers who went into camp - not the peons regular sailors)

But even so, the log keepers didn't seem to consider this worthy enough to note on their various trips back to camp until they got around to dealing with money issues related to his death.
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Post by: studentforever on 06 September 2013, 10:47:52
RIP Pierre Guilliame.
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Post by: Pommy Stuart on 11 September 2013, 17:02:01
Cannot put in comments till Randi sorts it out.
Albatross 1890. 5 Jan 1890.
"Steam launch with search party made rounds searching for the bodies of the men drowned on the 23rd inst."
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Post by: Randi on 11 September 2013, 17:07:47
Cannot put in comments till Randi sorts it out.
Albatross 1890. 5 Jan 1890.
"Steam launch with search party made rounds searching for the bodies of the men drowned on the 23rd inst."

 ??? What do I need to sort out :'(
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Post by: Pommy Stuart on 11 September 2013, 17:42:03
How I and others can make posts below your heading.
I followed you method and got it below the heading but others inc me will not do that every time.

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Post by: Randi on 11 September 2013, 18:08:59
How I and others can make posts below your heading.
I followed you method and got it below the heading but others inc me will not do that every time.

Sorry, but I did not manage to make my meaning clear. I fixed the 1900 post myself and cleaned up the 1890 post. That is all that needed to be done.

No one needs to do anything special - just post as you always have.
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Post by: lollia paolina on 30 September 2013, 06:40:08
USRC Bear, 16/09/1893

"10.20am: Francisco Goteras, seaman from Steam whaler "Belvedere" died from consumption. Carpenter made coffin for remains.
12.00am: Called all hands and held funeral services. Body remaining on board awaiting favorable weather for landing and interring it.

4 to 6 pm: ... landed the remains of Francisco Goteras and turned them over to Lieut Reinberg for burial"

http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USRC%20Bear/vol073/vol073_152_1.jpg

Rest in Peace, Francisco Goteras.
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Post by: studentforever on 30 September 2013, 07:08:03
As with so many of our sailors, RN and USA, far from home and loved ones.

RIP
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Post by: camiller on 30 September 2013, 08:24:42
From the log of the Jamestown, July 14, 1845, in Palmas:

"At 3 Jack Musquito (Krooman) departed this life."

"Sent on shore the remains of Jack Musquito (Krooman) for burial."

No mention of the cause of death

http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Jamestown/vol001of067/vol001of067_115_0.jpg

Rest in Peace, Jack Musquito
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Post by: Janet Jaguar on 07 December 2013, 16:58:41
Unfortunate drama, which could have turned out even worse...  (amended according to forum discussion.  JJ)

From the Perry
18 April 1896
[my best attempt to transcribe]

4 - 8 A.M. ? Mod. to stiff breeze from S.W. to W x N. overcast to partly clear mod. to rough sea. 4.45 in sail wind drawing ahead. put reef in main trysail and furled it. At about 7.05 the boatswain who was filling front tank of forward water closet was washed overboard by the vessel taking a sea over the bows, - streamed the life buoys and immediately the vessel bringing her up head to sea, lowered the starboard otter boat sending hand into the rigging to keep lookout on the mast overboard. Otter boat rowed down to where buoys were streamed and where boatswain was last seen but was unable to find him. He was clothed in oil skins and heavy boots that probably weighed him down and which with the temperature of water evidently rendered it impossible for him to keep afloat. He was close to the buoys when last reported. Steamed various courses for about an hour in search of missing man, otter boat also making search. At about 8.00 saw a sea comb over otter boat and capsize her Steam down alongside and after several attempts, the vessel during very badly succeeded in getting lines to the men who were clinging to the overturned boat and haled them on board. Administered the methods of resuscitation and took every expedient to restore the men who were far gone with exhaustion. Made an attempt to pick up the boat but the sea getting heavier abandoned the effort. Alfred Haefeli, boatswain was lost expended three life buoys.
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Commodore%20perry//Volumes/Seagate%20Backup%20Plus%20Drive/Arfon-JPEGS/RG26/COMMODORE%20PERRY//vol171/vol171_011_1.jpg

That would be Alfred Haefeli -
City Directories on Ancestry.com (http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?rank=1&new=1&MSAV=1&msT=1&gss=angs-g&gsfn=Alfred&gsln=Haefeli&msddy=1896&cpxt=0&catBucket=rstp&uidh=r1a&_83004003-n_xcl=f&cp=0&pcat=ROOT_CATEGORY&h=219597383&db=USDirectories&indiv=1&ml_rpos=38)
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Name:   A Haefeli
Residence Year:   1896
Residence Place:   San Francisco, California
Occupation:   Boatswain
Publication Title:   San Francisco, California, City Directory, 1896

U.S., Naval Hospital Tickets and Case Papers, 1825-1889 about Alfred Haefeli (http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?rank=1&new=1&MSAV=1&msT=1&gss=angs-g&gsfn=Alfred&gsln=Haifeli&msddy=1896&cpxt=0&catBucket=rstp&uidh=r1a&_83004003-n_xcl=f&cp=0&pcat=ROOT_CATEGORY&h=58210&recoff=10+11&db=NavalHospitalTickets&indiv=1&ml_rpos=7)
Quote
Name:   Alfred Haefeli
Birth Year:   abt 1861
Birth Place:   Switzerland
Admittance Date:   17 Jan 1888
Age at Admission:   27
Hospital Location:   New York, New York, United States


Rest in peace, Alfred Haefeli
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Post by: asterix135 on 13 December 2013, 17:17:41
Patterson, 12 April, 1916 (http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USCS%20Patterson/Book%2023/IMG_7340_0.jpg), Port Chester Alaska

Quote
Death: At 10 pm Ship anchored Port Chester. Chas A Olsen Boatswain mate 1st Cl died in the sick bay of paralysis while under care of the Surgeon after illness beginning at Port Townsend April 5
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Post by: Janet Jaguar on 13 December 2013, 17:19:38
Sounds like polio - scary.

Rest in peace, Charles Olsen.
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Post by: asterix135 on 16 December 2013, 16:46:47
More on Charles Olsen's death and burial:

13/04/1916 (http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USCS%20Patterson/Book%2023/IMG_7341_0.jpg) - Colors & half-masted both ensign & services flag

13/04/1916 (http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USCS%20Patterson/Book%2023/IMG_7341_1.jpg) - 9:50 AM Com'd'g Officer and Mr. Burnell left ship to make arrangements for burial of C Olsen BM 1st cl. 
Messrs Kelsh Weidlich and Reading taking inventory of personal property of C. Olsen BM 1st cl. 
11:20 am Com'd Officer and Mr. Burnell returned, not being able to make arrangement for burial at Metlakatla, made preparations to get ship under way. 
3:00 PM Launch left with Comdg Officer and Dr. Marchand to see about burial . 3:35 launch returned with Comdg Officer and undertaker. 
3:55 pm Launch towing whaleboat left ship with body of CA Olsen, BM 1 cl, the Bos'n, five seamen and the undertaker

14/04/1916 (http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USCS%20Patterson/Book%2023/IMG_7342_0.jpg) - Bed clothes of CA Olsen, deceased, thrown overboard by order of Surgeon GE Marchand, on account of unsanitary condition, as follows: 2 sheets, 2 blankets, 2 pillow cases, 1 mattress

14/04/1916 (http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USCS%20Patterson/Book%2023/IMG_7342_1.jpg) - 1:00 launch left ship with Commanding Officer for the shore. 
1:40 launch left ship with all Wardroom officers except officer of the deck. 
2:00 launch left ship towing whaleboat with all available POs and men.  Officers and men marched in double file to the Episcopal Church where funeral services were held over the body of Boatswain's Mate Olsen.  From the church the body was taken to the Ketchikan cemetery followed by the escort, the coffin being covered with the customary Union Jack and carried in a hearse.

I'm guessing the Union Jack mentioned is this one (except with the appropriate number of stars for 1916): (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/e5/US_Naval_Jack.svg) and not the UK flag.


(http://image2.findagrave.com/photos250/photos/2012/148/90887145_133823850479.jpg)
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Post by: studentforever on 16 December 2013, 17:41:46
A fitting tribute to someone who was obviously well thought of by his crew mates.
RIP Charles Olsen
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Post by: Randi on 16 December 2013, 17:57:09
I can read USS Patterson on the gravestone.
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Post by: Janet Jaguar on 30 December 2013, 06:52:39
Remembering the deaths of 22 crew of the whaling bark Napoleon (http://forum.oldweather.org/index.php?topic=3096.msg79993#msg79993) out of Edgarton, lost in 1885 when the ship was crushed by the sea ice.  The sole survivor of the wreck, finding his way to some Siberian natives for 2 years, was Mate J.B.Vincent of Martha's Vineyard.

The crew included
     Capt. Smith of Edgarton
     1st Officer Wilson Rogers of New Bedford, survived by wife and child
     3rd Officer Thomas Pease, colored, of New Bedford

May they all Rest in Peace.
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Post by: Michael on 15 January 2014, 12:42:51
At 9:00, a funeral party in charge of Lt. R. M. Hughes, consisting of 30 men and 6 body bearers, left the ship to bury Robert Giles (C. P.) of the U. S. S. Machias, who died at the General Hospital Shanghai; October 12 at 1:00 P.M.; and Comd'r J. E. Craig, Lt. E. S. Prime and Paymaster L. C. Kerr were in attendance at the ceremonies and burial.

14 October 1895 from USS Concord in Shanghai

http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Concord/vol019of040/vol019of040_316_1.jpg
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Post by: Randi on 27 January 2014, 07:00:47
Quote from: http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Jamestown/vol020of067/vol020of067_010_1.jpg
Charles A. Gicquel, (Carpenters Mate) died: aged 47 years and 5 months.
4 January 1867
USS Jamestown
Panama Bay


Quote from: http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Jamestown/vol020of067/vol020of067_011_1.jpg
At 9 A.M. sent a party on shore to dig a grave for the body of Charles A. Gicquel, (Car Mate).

At 3 P.M. funeral party escorted the remains of Chas A. Gicquel, (C.M.) on shore for burial. At 3.30 funeral party landed on "Dead Man's Island" At 4 o'clock boats returned on board from "Dead Man's Island".
5 January 1867



Died of Yellow Fever. See: http://forum.oldweather.org/index.php?topic=3933.msg81233#msg81233
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Post by: Randi on 28 January 2014, 02:07:42
Some more unfortunate happenings for the crew of the Perry:

(July 16, 1896)

8:30 while making evening colors, the pennant refused to break out or to lower. After several efforts to haul it down, Seaman C. Moulthrop, who was acting Quarter-Master, went aloft to clear the pennant. He reached the truck, made several ineffectual efforts to break out the pennant, (probably for the space of a minute,) when from some unaccountable reason, he fell to the deck:- striking first in the rigging and then on the strong back of starboard waist davits.

Surgeon Kierueff was sent for immediately, but death was almost instantaneous. The body was removed to the Pilot House, and a Petty Officer's Watch kept during the night. The body was prepared for burial.

(July 17, 1896)

Crew employed coaling ship until noon, when knocked off to make preparations for Seaman Moulthrop's funeral. 2:30 funeral procession consisting of Officers and Crews of U. S. Steamers "Perry" and "Corwin" left the vessel for Unalaska.

5:30 Officers and Crews returned, having buried Seaman Charles C. Moulthrop, in Unalaska, Alaska. Expended 50 rounds of .45 cal. cartridges in volley firing over the grave.
I found a newspaper story of this incident - the surgeon's diagnosis of the reason for the fall was heart problems.  Rest in Peace, C.C. Moulthrop.

The San Francisco call., September 24, 1896, Page 3, Image 3
The Library of Congress > Chronicling America (http://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/)

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-PfpRtCcz964/UudnkLBksyI/AAAAAAAADIc/gTMaakF_oD4/w381-h426-no/USS+Perry+1896+death+1.JPG)
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-y2aMT2aRf_c/Uudnm4aDAxI/AAAAAAAADIo/ImKua6nbqBU/w383-h382-no/USS+Perry+1896+death+2.JPG)
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Post by: Maikel on 10 February 2014, 04:16:20
U.S.S. Yorktown
At anchor Sandy Point, Magellan Straits, Chilli

10-09-1893 - 8 p.m. to meridian.

At 8.35 the body of Louis N. Badene (Chief B.M.) [Chief Boatswain's Mate] was braught aboard by boat from Chilian cruiser "Magellanes".
The petty officer in charge reported that the body had been recovered from the water at wharf. Body was examined at once by surgeon of this ship, who reported that death had apparently occured some hours before, and the probable cause drowning.

http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Yorktown/vol010of040_cr2_to_jpg/vol010of040_096_1.jpg (http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Yorktown/vol010of040_cr2_to_jpg/vol010of040_096_1.jpg)

11-09-1893 - 6 to 8 p.m.

Received on board 1 coffin for the body of L.N. Baden late Ch.B.Mte. [Chief Boatswain's Mate]

http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Yorktown/vol010of040_cr2_to_jpg/vol010of040_097_1.jpg (http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Yorktown/vol010of040_cr2_to_jpg/vol010of040_097_1.jpg)

12-09-1893 - 8 a.m. to meridian.

At 9.00 the crew and officers of the ship assembled on quarter deck, and the Commanding Officer read the Funeral service over the remains of Louis N. Badene (Ch. B.Mte.)  [Chief Boatswain's Mate].
At 9.30 the funeral party left the ship with body, Lt. Fickbohm in charge.
An Escort from Chilian cruiser "Magellanes" joined that from this ship.
The remains were interred in Protestant cemetery on shore.
A salute was fired over grave.
Party returned at 10.50.

http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Yorktown/vol010of040_cr2_to_jpg/vol010of040_098_1.jpg (http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Yorktown/vol010of040_cr2_to_jpg/vol010of040_098_1.jpg)

Edit: Corrected, accidentally type Louise instead of Louis.
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Post by: Janet Jaguar on 10 February 2014, 08:57:07
Rest in peace, Louis Badene
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Post by: jil on 12 February 2014, 05:47:45
Bear, Incident on 6th June 1891 - http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USRC%20Bear/vol069/vol069_070_1.jpg ; but details reported 7th June 1891 - http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USRC%20Bear/vol069/vol069_071_1.jpg

10.15 boat returned and reported the following information from Lieut. Jarvis: that Lieut. Robinson, coxswain Hassler, seamen J.J. Andersen, H. Smith and A. Nelson and H.C. Moore of Prof. Russell's party were lost in attempting to land, that the bodies of Lieut. Robinson and seaman Anderson had been found; that the boats were all right. Instructed Lieut. Jarvis by signal to bury dead except Lieut. Robinson and to bring that body with him; to bring his men on board, the explorers to remain on shore and follow the beach east.

May they all rest in peace.
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Post by: Janet Jaguar on 12 February 2014, 05:52:56
Rest in peace,
  lieut. Leonidus L. Robinson,
  coxswain Hassler,
  seaman J.J. Andersen,
  seaman H. Smith
  seaman A. Nelson
  H.C. Moore
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Post by: asterix135 on 07 March 2014, 10:30:13
Patterson, Dec 21, 1917 (http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USCS%20Patterson/Book%2029/IMG_8077_1.jpg)

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8:15 PM rcd news that E.B. Parkhouse QM 2nd class had died at 5:45 PM at the Providence Hospital after undergoing an operation.  Went under anesthetic and did not recover consciousness. 
E.B. Parkhouse operated on at 9 am for cancer of the kidney and died of hemmorage at 5:45 PM without recovering consciousness at Providence Hospital 

Remains removed to House Undertaking Co

Parkhouse was transferred to the Patterson from the SS Taker(?) on September 1, 1917 (http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USCS%20Patterson/Book%2028/IMG_7908_1.jpg)

On September 26, 1917 (http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USCS%20Patterson/Book%2028/IMG_7934_0.jpg), he was "injured in the line of duty," bruising his knee cap and was on the sick list from that point until the Patterson returned to Seattle on October 13, 1917 (http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USCS%20Patterson/Book%2029/IMG_7971_0.jpg), when he was sent to the marine hospital for medicine.

He resumed his duties on October 15, 1917 (http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USCS%20Patterson/Book%2029/IMG_7977_0.jpg), and had no other mention in the logs until December 20, 1917 (http://url=http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USCS%20Patterson/Book%2029/IMG_8076_0.jpg), when he was sent to Providence Hospital and the Surgeon advised that he needed surgery for a cancerous kidney.  The operation, as noted above, killed him.

RIP Quartermaster Parkhouse
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Post by: Janet Jaguar on 07 March 2014, 14:04:25
Rest in Peace, Edward Beck Parkhouse

from Ancestry.com
Father: Thomas A. Parkhouse
Mother: Elizabeth Beck
Wife: Maria Julia Ross (married September 1912)
Son: Parkhouse Parkhouse (born November 1912) - yes, that name is in future censuses.

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/0i0rjBZ4skiQrjA0MUtk29-0fF433Qd6l71z3WTqho0=w370-h195-p-no)

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-p9hJ9enwHD8/UxoYRSudi4I/AAAAAAAADYM/FhGja2BvAy4/w591-h532-no/E.B.Parkhouse+2.JPG)

(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/MVAyfVlyA5dT0bb4WLXvtqV1T2LWdmdxmKgwhK4zZ6s=w458-h207-p-no)
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Post by: asterix135 on 07 March 2014, 14:26:45
If he was married with a wife and (unfortunately named) son in Seattle, I wonder why his personal effects etc. were not sent there after his death?

According to the Patterson's log on December 22, 1917 (http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USCS%20Patterson/Book%2029/IMG_8083_1.jpg)

Quote
Took inventory of clothes & effects of E.B. Parkhouse and turned them over to Mr. H.C. Myers (Address 760 30th Ave) on authority of written request of E.B. Parkhouse.
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Post by: Janet Jaguar on 07 March 2014, 14:31:11
I don't see why the dates of his marriage and his son's birth indicate a happy marriage.  His wife is also not mentioned on his death certificate.  I'm thinking, he just made his soon-to-be-born son legitimate, and that his wife really didn't like him much.  It wouldn't be the first or last marriage of that type.
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Post by: asterix135 on 07 March 2014, 14:32:40
Well, he was a sailor, so that would probably be a good explanation.
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Post by: Maikel on 29 March 2014, 04:28:20
U.S.S. Yorktown, at Mare Island, California
13-03-1894 - 8 a.m. to meridian.

Half masted the colors during funeral of the late sailmaker S.H. Boutelle U.S.N.
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Yorktown/vol011of040_cr2_to_jpg/vol011of040_080_1.jpg (http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Yorktown/vol011of040_cr2_to_jpg/vol011of040_080_1.jpg)

I'm not quite sure whether he was part of the Yorktown crew.
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Post by: Randi on 29 March 2014, 11:14:04
Quote from: http://www.mocavo.com/List-of-Officers-of-the-Navy-of-the-United-States-and-of-the-Marine-Corps-From-1775-to-1900-Comprising-a-Complete-Register-of-All-Present-and-Former-Commissioned-Warranted-and-Appointed-Officers-of-the-United-States-Navy-and-of-the-Marine-Corps-Regular-and-Volunteer-Comp-From-the-Official-Records-of-the-Navy-Department/810951/76
BOUTWELL, SAMUEL H.
Sailmaker, 10 October, 1855. Dismissed 17 June, 1861. Sailmaker. 17 February, 1876.
Died 9 March, 1894.

Quote from: http://www.captainsclerk.info/archives/nams/letters_docs/m0330.html
Samuel H. Boutwell.  [Sailmaker.]  17 February 1876.  Plymouth.  May 2 '79 Detd. 9 Inst. & to the Kearsarge 10 Inst.  Octr 17 '79 Detd. & w.o.  Nov 28 '79 to the Training ship Constitution 2 Dec.  Dec 1 '79 Previous order revoked & w.o.    Augt 13 '80 To the Galena 28 inst.  Sept 13 '83 Detd. & w.o.  Octr 2 '84 to Equipment department Navy Yard Washington; to continue until 2d Octr 1887.   Sept 30 '87 Duty to continue until 30 September 1888.  Dec 27 '87 Detd. & to the Trenton 3 Jany.  Jany 3 '88 Report on the 19th inst.

http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=37580767


Yours is clearly Boutelle :-\
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Post by: Maikel on 31 March 2014, 10:17:52
U.S.S. Yorktown, at San Francisco
05-03-1893 - 8 a.m. to meridian.

Sent surgeon Harmon to hospital on shore to bring off Hugh Boyd (sea) who had been injured by cable cars.
At 10.30 H. Boyd sea was braught on board on a stretcher, with a fractured knee.
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Yorktown/vol011of040_cr2_to_jpg/vol011of040_072_1.jpg (http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Yorktown/vol011of040_cr2_to_jpg/vol011of040_072_1.jpg)

At Mare Island
17-03-1894 - 8 a.m. to meridian.

Hugh Boyd (sea) died to day from the effects of lockjaw at the Naval Hospital Mare Id.
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Yorktown/vol011of040_cr2_to_jpg/vol011of040_084_1.jpg (http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Yorktown/vol011of040_cr2_to_jpg/vol011of040_084_1.jpg)

Lockjaw is most possibly another name for tetanus, an infectious disease of the central nervous system.

19-03-1984 - Meridian to 4 p.m.
At 1.30 funeral party left ship in charge of Lieut Boush.
At 2.00 half masted colors during funeral ceremony of the late Hugh Boyd (sea).
Full masted colors at 3.00.
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Yorktown/vol011of040_cr2_to_jpg/vol011of040_086_1.jpg (http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Yorktown/vol011of040_cr2_to_jpg/vol011of040_086_1.jpg)

22-03-1894 - 8 a.m. to meridian.
An Inventory off the effects of Hugh Boyd (sea) deceased was this day made by Lieut Boush.
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Yorktown/vol011of040_cr2_to_jpg/vol011of040_089_1.jpg (http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Yorktown/vol011of040_cr2_to_jpg/vol011of040_089_1.jpg)

23-03-1894 - 8 a.m. to meridian.
Held auction to dispose of the effects of Hugh Boyd (sea) deceased. The amount realized was $12.35.
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Yorktown/vol011of040_cr2_to_jpg/vol011of040_091_1.jpg (http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Yorktown/vol011of040_cr2_to_jpg/vol011of040_091_1.jpg)
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Post by: Randi on 31 March 2014, 12:45:31
I've heard the term lockjaw used for tetanus from time to time (though I think it is less commonly used nowadays ;)).
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Post by: camiller on 17 April 2014, 08:29:46
From the Jamestown, in Norfolk:

Sept. 10, 1847, 3.40 am:  "At 3.40 sent the 2'nd Cutter to recover one of the men who was attempting to swim ashore."
There were many punishments Sept. 10, but none for desertion.

Sept. 13: "Thomas Malone Deserter was brought on board from the Schooner Mail of New Haven.  He reported that Stephen Decatur (O.S.) went down in the attempt to Swim from the ship."
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Jamestown/vol003of067/vol003of067_036_1.jpg

(Note: This Stephen Decatur was apparently not a direct descendant of the well-known Commodore.  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stephen_Decatur)

Rest in peace, Stephen Decatur.
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Post by: Janet Jaguar on 17 April 2014, 11:09:45
Rest in peace, Stephen Decatur
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Post by: jil on 20 May 2014, 02:50:11
Bear 3rd Sept 1897 at St. Michaels, Alaska - http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USRC%20Bear/vol078/vol078_133_1.jpg

Natives reported body of 1st Mate Saunders of the Schr. "Fred E. Saunders", drowned July 11th. Sent officer and surgeon to investigate.

Steam launch returned, having found body of Mate Saunders, with nothing but clothing to identify it. Surgeon examined body and found no evidence of violence.

4th Sept - http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USRC%20Bear/vol078/vol078_134_1.jpg
Funeral party on shore with remains of Mate Saunders.

Rest in peace Mr. Saunders
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Post by: Pommy Stuart on 19 July 2014, 20:00:35
10 July 1898, Concord flew flag at half mast on account of death of
Captain Charles Vernon Gridley (24 November 1844 ? 5 June 1898)

During the Battle of Manila Bay on 1 May 1898, Dewey gave his famous command, "You may fire when you are ready, Gridley," immortalizing the captain.

After the destruction of the Spanish fleet and the capture of Manila, Gridley was obliged to leave his command because of his health, and died en route to the United States at Kobe, Japan
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Post by: Janet Jaguar on 19 July 2014, 21:12:30
Ancestry.com gave me photographs - both of him and of his grave marker in Lakeside Cemetery, Erie, Pennsylvania

Rest in Peace, Charles Gridley
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Post by: Maikel on 22 July 2014, 03:12:30
Not an American death, a Spanish one this time.

U.S.S. Yorktown

27-04-1895 - Moored to Buoy off Hongkew, Shanghai, China.

8 a.m. to Meridian:
Received official visit from an officer of the Spanish cruiser "Ulloa" who announced the death of her Commanding officer, Senor Don Jose Jimenez Commander of the Spanish Royal Navy.
Sent an officer to offer condolence.

Meridian to 4 p.m.:
Half masted colors in company with foreign men-of-war as a mark respect to the late Commanding officer of the Spanish cruiser.
Received a call from a Spanish officer to announce that the funeral of their late Commanding officer would take place at 5.00 P.M. Sunday.

http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Yorktown/vol013of040_jpg_clean/vol013of040_132_1.jpg (http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Yorktown/vol013of040_jpg_clean/vol013of040_132_1.jpg)

28-04-1895

4 a.m. to 8 a.m.:
At 8.05 half masted colors and jack in honor of the late Commander of the "Ulloa".

Meridian to 4 p.m.:
The Commanding officer with three officers and Lieut. Robinson in charge of a company 36 files left the ship to attend the funeral of the late Commander Jimenez Royal Spanish Navy, Commanding the Cruiser "Ulloa".

4 p.m. to 8 p.m.:
At 5.30 Spanish man-of-war fired a salute of 7 guns and mastheaded colors, followed her motions.
Funeral party returned on board at 7.45.

http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Yorktown/vol013of040_jpg_clean/vol013of040_133_1.jpg (http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Yorktown/vol013of040_jpg_clean/vol013of040_133_1.jpg)
Title: Re: American Burials at sea and other recorded deaths...
Post by: Helen J on 03 August 2014, 15:21:21
Man lost overboard from Pioneer on 11th October 1928:

http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USCS%20Pioneer/Book%2025%20-%20April-June,%201928/IMG_0161_0.jpg
Earl Forsberg, sea, a.b. lost overboard. Foot slipped while washing paintwork on outboard side of port motorsailer canopy. Launch had handrope on canopy and there was a safety line passed behind the man and his companion but when he slipped he was not holding on and slid from under the safety line. He wore rubber boats and these evidently carried him down quickly. His companion gave the alarm and the ship was immediately stopped, a life ring having been dropped over first, and a boat was lowered in less than seven minutes. The man was seen by the boat crew just as they took the water but they started for him he sunk and was never seen again. The ship cruised in circles around the buoy, which was found, untill dark but no sign of the man was found. Signed Roland D Horne Exec Off

Rest in peace, Earl Forsberg
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Post by: Janet Jaguar on 03 August 2014, 20:47:28
He is remembered in NOAA's Hall of Honor (http://www.history.noaa.gov/hallofhonor/lineofduty.html)
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Individuals that have died in the service of our Nation while associated with NOAA and its ancestor organizations during the years 1846 through 1936.
...
October 11, 1928 - Lost by drowning after falling overboard off of Coast and Geodetic Survey Ship PIONEER during survey of Heceta Bank, Oregon coast.
Earl Forsberg, seaman

Rest in Peace, Earl Forsberg
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Post by: tastiger on 05 August 2014, 07:28:04
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USRC%20Bear/vol105/vol105_080_1.jpg

From USS Bear (but death on another ship)

4:00AM to 8:00AM
Hauled various courses around SE end of San Clemente and examined Smugglers' Cove.  The old Swell still breaking in the Cove did not land.  Seeing no sign of life on the shore turned and stood back around SE end of island then to Northwestward along shore.  At 7:45 Stood in Close to examine hut on shore in log (494), and stopped and Sent in boat with officer and Inspector Bernard

10:30, Stopped off Wilson's Cove and Sent in boat with officer and Inspector Bernard to investigate.  Found two men, Austin E and Lester C Freeman, who had been wrecked in the Sloop "Dora" of San Pedro, Sunday, March 10, at Northwest Harbor.  The Captain of the Sloop "Chips" Bensnan was drowned. The body was recovered and buried by the Freemans.  Took the two men aboard at their request for transportation to San Pedro.  The Sloop is total wreck and beyond assistance.
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Post by: Janet Jaguar on 05 August 2014, 10:35:08
and all over searching for pirate gold.

The San Francisco call., March 18, 1912, Page 5, Image 5 (http://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lccn/sn85066387/1912-03-18/ed-1/seq-5/) reported the death of "Chips" Benman and the loss of his sloop "Dora".

Rest in Peace, Chips Benman.
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Post by: Randi on 05 August 2014, 10:39:27
 8) 8) 8)
Title: Re: American Burials at sea and other recorded deaths...
Post by: Helen J on 16 September 2014, 15:34:39
From Pioneer, June 25th 1929:

Ralph Stedman, Seaman AB fatally injured while engaged in duty on topographic shore ~ at about 6.15PM.

http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USCS%20Pioneer/Book%2029%20-%20April-June,%201929/IMG_0642_0.jpg
Title: Re: American Burials at sea and other recorded deaths...
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 21 September 2014, 22:33:03
Bad things happen in port too...

Perry 29/10/1905, Seattle Washington
This day's watch was stood by Lieut JV Wild up to about 8:20 pm when according to best information, he left the vessel in uniform informing quartermaster that he was going up to the office (Moran Brothers) and that he would be back in a few minutes.  Quartermaster Mellick inferred that he was going to telephone.  He did not return at all, and after going off watch at midnight Quartermaster Mellick went to the office to enquire for Mr Wild.  Watchman said no officer had passed out the gate in uniform.  These facts were reported to me upon my arrival on board the morning of the 30th instant.  CE Johnston 1st Lieut.

Perry 30/10/1905, Seattle Washington (mid to 9 am)
No line officer on board during this watch.  Lieut JV Wild absent since 8:20 last night, and alarm was felt that he might have fallen off the dock.  Upon return of Captain and Executive Officer investigation was made and gear was prepared for dragging.  CE Johnston 1st Lieut.

Perry 30/10/1905, Seattle Washington (9am to 4pm)
Crew employed dragging in vacinity searching for remain of Lieut JV Wild.  At 2:45 recovered body of Lieut Wild about 150 ft from gang plank of ship in log basin on opposite side of wharf.  Coroner was notified and reviewed the remains about 3:15 after which they were removed to the establishment of the Boney-Watson Co undertakers. Examination revealed the fact that Lieut Wild struck his head in falling and that death was undoubtedly accidental.  Notified Captain JF Wild USRCS, father of deceased and the department of the facts by wire.
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Commodore%20perry//Volumes/Seagate%20Backup%20Plus%20Drive/Arfon-JPEGS/RG26/COMMODORE%20PERRY//vol181/vol181_136_1.jpg

Perry 05/11/1905, Seattle Washington (9am to 4pm)
Suspended work. At 2:30 four officers and as many of crew as could be spared left vessel to participate in funeral ceremony of late Lieut. J.V. Wild. Half masted flag between three and four during funeral.
(4pm to Midnight)
Commanding Officer shipped remains of Lieut. Wild to Capt. J.F. Wild, Baltimore, Maryland.
According to the Register of Washington Deaths, King County and family trees at Ancestry.com:
     John V. Wild, born 1876, Revenue Cutter Service Officer
     Father Capt. John F. Wild USRCS, Mother "Mary" Catherine Rollins
     No spouse or children.  He pre-deceased his father.
     Buried at Saint Mary's City, Maryland, USA


Rest in Peace, John V. Wild

http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=55445363&ref=acom
(http://image2.findagrave.com/photos250/photos/2012/204/55445363_134306149167.jpg)
Title: Re: American Burials at sea and other recorded deaths...
Post by: Kookaburra on 08 October 2014, 15:46:18
31 August 1888 Thetis

At 10.45 EJ Haley (CM) jumped overboard from the starboard poop ladder.  The ship was stopped, life buoy dropped, failing to light, & the life boat lowered.  The Commanding Officer relieved the deck & Ensign Welles took charge of the life boat when the life boat reached the buoy.  Haley was seen about two boat lengths off just as he was going down.  When rising again he staid at the surface but a few seconds & went down not being seen again. The boat remained in the vicinity for 15 minutes or more & returned to the ship.  The ship started ahead in her course S by E 1/4 E (p.c.) at 11.15 Ensign Welles relieving the Commanding Officer & the deck.  When the body passed the schooner "Jane Gray" astern, lines were thrown over the bow.  She also lowered her boat & assisted in the search.

http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Thetis/vol007of024/vol007_037_1.jpg
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Post by: Janet Jaguar on 08 October 2014, 16:39:45
Rest in Peace, E J Haley
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Post by: Maikel on 18 October 2014, 05:30:48
03-11-1895 - At anchor Chemulpho, Korea

8 p.m. to midnight:
Surgeon G.P. Lumsden U.S.N. reported the death at 11.30 in the sick bay of this vessel, of Choo Ching Wing (Mess att.)

http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Yorktown/vol014of040_cr2_to_jpg/vol014of040_133_1.jpg (http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Yorktown/vol014of040_cr2_to_jpg/vol014of040_133_1.jpg)

04-11-1895 - Meridian to 4 p.m.:
At 2.20 called all hands to muster, and sent the remains of Chin Choo Wing (m. att.) ashore, to be buried in accordance with customary Chinese ceremonies.
Half masted the colors, till the body was landed. The Russian men-of-war in port also half masted colors.

http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Yorktown/vol014of040_cr2_to_jpg/vol014of040_134_1.jpg (http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Yorktown/vol014of040_cr2_to_jpg/vol014of040_134_1.jpg)
Title: Re: American Burials at sea and other recorded deaths...
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 18 October 2014, 09:51:18
Rest in peace, Choo Ching Wing.
Title: Re: American Burials at sea and other recorded deaths...
Post by: Kookaburra on 23 October 2014, 14:12:57
Thetis

02 October 1888
At 8.10 a boat from shore reported that a boat had capsized & several men drowned.  Sent an officer ashore who ascertained that a shore boat containing four Chinese from this ship & two from the "Pinta" has capsized.  Ah Tre (C.C.) and Ah ~ (Lds) of this ship were saved & the body of the cabin cook of the "Pinta" recovered.  Gay Hung (Lds) Lim Tim (W.R.C.) of this ship & ~ W.R. Stwan of the "Pinta" missing.  Their boat was found swamped.  Sent a boat to the "Pinta" to report the circumstance.

http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Thetis/vol007of024/vol007_069_1.jpg

03 October 1888
Sent dinghy in charge of Boatswain's mate to search for bodies of missing Chinese. They grapelled the body of the Ward.room Steward of the "Pinta" & after reporting to the Commanding Officer of the "Pinta," delivered it by his order ashore to Lieut Turner, U.S.M.C.  

http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Thetis/vol007of024/vol007_070_1.jpg

04 October 1888
At 3.30 pm half masted the colors with the "Pinta" in honor of the dead whose funeral took place at this time.

http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Thetis/vol007of024/vol007_071_1.jpg
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Post by: Kookaburra on 01 November 2014, 12:32:28
Thetis

18 October 1888 (two weeks later)

At 8 am it was reported that there was a dead Chinaman lying on the beach.  Upon examination it was recognized as the body of Gay Hung (Lds) of this ship,  Ensign E. Simpson with a working party was ordered to make all preparations for the funeral on shore & to take charge of the funeral ceremony which took place at 3.30 pm at Sitka.  During the ceremony the colors were half masted. The procession was comprised of marine guard of "Pinta" & crew of "Thetis." $17.45 was found on the body. One uniform from deceased's effects was taken to dress the remains.

http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Thetis/vol007of024/vol007_086_1.jpg

19 October 1888

At 10.15 two Indians reported finding the body of a Chinaman afloat & towing it ashore.  Sent Ensign M.C. Gorgas ashore to make preparations for the funeral, the body being recognized by the clothing as the remains of Lim Tim (W.R. Cook) of this vessel who had been missing since the night of Oct 2d.  At 3 landed a party from this vessel to form the funeral procession, the marines forming the firing party & at 3.30 half masted the colors during the ceremony.  The body was buried in the cemetery back of the mission.  Crew returned aboard at 5.00.  Found on the body forty one dollars & seventy cents, a bunch of keys & a small ivory carving.

http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Thetis/vol007of024/vol007_087_1.jpg

All of the missing men are now accounted for.
Title: Re: American Burials at sea and other recorded deaths...
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 01 November 2014, 12:48:54
Rest in peace, Gay Hung and Lim Tim.
Title: Re: American Burials at sea and other recorded deaths...
Post by: Danny252 on 13 November 2014, 14:33:49
Not from the logbooks, I found the following notable newspaper article whilst searching for some other articles related to the Albatross: http://cdnc.ucr.edu/cgi-bin/cdnc?a=d&d=LAH19061125.2.107.35

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LIEUTENANT COMMANDER IS DROWNED AT SEA

HONOLULU. Nov. 24. [1906] -- Lieutenant Commander Leroy M. Garrett, commanding the United States steamer Albatross, was washed overboard and drowned last Wednesday when the vessel was 500 miles northwest of Honolulu.

The Albatross stood by all night using her searchlight in an unavailing search for him.

The Albatross has completed an Important scientific expedition in Aleutian and Japanese waters.

Lt Comdr Garrett took (or, considering I've not yet reached the date in the logbook, will take) command of the Albatross on the 3rd of October 1904.
Title: Re: American Burials at sea and other recorded deaths...
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 13 November 2014, 14:37:31
Going ahead of the logs when you find something like this is perfectly fine and appropriate.  Thanks, Danny.  I'm moving it to the American post.

Rest in Peace, Leroy Mason Garrett.
Title: Re: American Burials at sea and other recorded deaths...
Post by: Danny252 on 13 November 2014, 14:51:38
Going ahead of the logs when you find something like this is perfectly fine and appropriate.

I don't think we have the logbooks for 1906 (although we will have the logs for him taking command), so probably even more useful to post the link.

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I'm moving it to the American post.

Thanks!
Title: Re: American Burials at sea and other recorded deaths...
Post by: Randi on 13 November 2014, 15:33:30
See "Other information and comments:" in Re: Albatross -- Reference: Transcription Example and Log Description (http://forum.oldweather.org/index.php?topic=3901.msg70638#msg70638) ;)

For more details: Tragedy at Sea: The Albatross Returns to San Francisco (page 10) (http://spo.nwr.noaa.gov/mfr581-2/mfr581-23.pdf)
Title: Re: American Burials at sea and other recorded deaths...
Post by: Danny252 on 13 November 2014, 16:09:03
See "Other information and comments:" in Re: Albatross -- Reference: Transcription Example and Log Description (http://forum.oldweather.org/index.php?topic=3901.msg70638#msg70638) ;)

It's in the Crew List as well - but was it mentioned in this thread? That's the real question!
Title: Re: American Burials at sea and other recorded deaths...
Post by: elizabeth on 13 November 2014, 16:24:52
 :( and  other recorded deaths Feb 2 1906 on the Perry http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Commodore%20perry//Volumes/Seagate%20Backup%20Plus%20Drive/Arfon-JPEGS/RG26/COMMODORE%20PERRY//vol182/vol182_038_1.jpg

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SS_Valencia

http://www.historylink.org/index.cfm?DisplayPage=output.cfm&file_id=7382

Sorry if has been mention before.
Title: Re: American Burials at sea and other recorded deaths...
Post by: Randi on 13 November 2014, 17:11:28
It's in the Crew List as well - but was it mentioned in this thread? That's the real question!

I don't think so ;D
Title: Re: American Burials at sea and other recorded deaths...
Post by: exim202 on 05 December 2014, 17:23:52
From Perry:
Received notification from Dr. H.G. Ebert, U.S.P.H and M.H.S. that Melvin Trimbell, boy, died in Providence Hospital the 4th inst. Wired relatives.
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Commodore%20perry//Volumes/Seagate%20Backup%20Plus%20Drive/Arfon-JPEGS/RG26/COMMODORE%20PERRY//vol184/vol184_009_1.jpg

Sent detail of men ashore in charge of Gunner McInary to attend funeral services of the late Melvin Trimbell, boy. Halfmasted colors between 9:30 and 10:00 a.m.
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Commodore%20perry//Volumes/Seagate%20Backup%20Plus%20Drive/Arfon-JPEGS/RG26/COMMODORE%20PERRY//vol184/vol184_011_1.jpg

And a grave that looks to have the right details:
http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=6866667
Title: Re: American Burials at sea and other recorded deaths...
Post by: Kookaburra on 05 December 2014, 17:30:46
16 years old.  How very sad.  "None knew thee but to love thee"
Title: Re: American Burials at sea and other recorded deaths...
Post by: elizabeth on 06 December 2014, 23:22:38
Ship recieve telegram to go to Port Townsend Wa to attended Funeral of Seaman Ahiers.

http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Commodore%20perry//Volumes/Seagate%20Backup%20Plus%20Drive/Arfon-JPEGS/RG26/COMMODORE%20PERRY//vol184/vol184_036_1.jpg

AHIERS, JOHN born 1836 Die Feb 2, 1907 Bosn, U S Coast Guard. I think this is him dose not say how he died.

http://wajcgs.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/Laural-Grove-Cemetery-Records.pdf
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Post by: Janet Jaguar on 30 December 2014, 16:55:29
Quote from: http://www.history.navy.mil/books/callahan/reg-usn-s.htm
Sweeting, Charles E.
Cadet Midshipman, 22 September, 1879. Graduated 8 June, 1883. Ensign, 1 July, 1885. Died 25 January, 1890.

Quote from: http://localhistory.morrisville.edu/sites/gar_post/wayne_gar.html
US Navy Ensign Charles E. Sweeting who lost his life from effects of sunstroke in Honolulu.

http://www.history.navy.mil/photos/images/h91000/h91970l.htm
Oh how sad.  I do not think sunstroke was his problem on the voyage towards the arctic.  It does not sound as if he were a prime physical specimen with at least two major health events within a year at around age 30.  He had only been on Thetis for three months when he was detached.
Sad when someone so young is that unlucky in health.  Rest in Peace, Charles Sweeting.
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Post by: Pommy Stuart on 31 December 2014, 00:40:31
Concord
https://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Concord/vol025of040/vol025of040_175_1.jpg (https://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Concord/vol025of040/vol025of040_175_1.jpg)
https://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Concord/vol025of040/vol025of040_176_1.jpg (https://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Concord/vol025of040/vol025of040_176_1.jpg)

McPherson      Ewen Malcolm   Fire 2c   13 Dec 1897 - joined ship from USRS Independence. 2 Sep 1898 Sent to Government Civil Hospital (Kaloon?) 05 Sep 1898 returned on board. 16 Jun 1899 His body was conveyed to the Mortuary. 17 Jun 1899 funeral was held in Hong Kong, China.

No mention (well from June 10th) of when or why he died. ?

R.I.P.
Title: Re: American Burials at sea and other recorded deaths...
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 31 December 2014, 03:06:39
He received the Manila Bay medal along with his other shipmates.  http://www.history.navy.mil/medals/dewey/dewey5.htm

Rest in Peace, Ewan McPherson.

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Post by: Kookaburra on 01 January 2015, 15:26:25
Thetis

04 May 1889
Peter Foley C.H. left the ship for the hospital in the city for treatment, having been transferred to the Hospital Mare Island but to remain in Hospital, Tacoma WT until able to undertake the trip
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Thetis/vol008of024/vol008_096_1.jpg

24 May 1889
Received information from the Fanny Paddock Hospital that Peter Foley C.H. died at 3.00 o'clock
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Thetis/vol008of024/vol008_116_1.jpg

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Fannie C. Paddock Memorial Hospital was dedicated on April 29, 1882, at 2511 N. Starr St. in Tacoma, Washington Territory. The hospital was established by Bishop John A. Paddock in honor of his wife, Fannie, who had died exactly one year earlier while the family made the trip from New York to provide health care in the West.

(http://kookabura.smugmug.com/photos/i-Dmh2Gkr/0/O/i-Dmh2Gkr.jpg)

26 May 1889
At 1.30 sent funeral party ashore in charge of Ensign MC Gorgas.  The Commanding Officer, Ensign Simpson, Passed Asst Engineer Dunning left ship to attend funeral of Peter Foley C.H.  Half masted colors when party left the ship.
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Thetis/vol008of024/vol008_118_1.jpg
Title: Re: American Burials at sea and other recorded deaths...
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 05 January 2015, 14:42:40
3 sept 1899
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Concord/vol026of040/vol026of040_071_1.jpg (http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Concord/vol026of040/vol026of040_071_1.jpg)

Mer - 4PM, Sent a swinning party to Kabalition Is. All armed.At around 3PM the dinghy came of with information that Magnus M. Nelsson had been shot in the head. Immediatly sent a boat ashore in charge of Ensign O. S. Knepper with the doctor & Hospital Steward, At 3.55 Nelson was brought on board uncontious from the effect of a wound in the head. On investigation indicated that Nelsson had been accidently wounded by a Mauser rifle in the hands of James F. Grable (GM3 class). At 4:40 Magnus M. Nelsson died.

More on the unfortunate death of Magnus M. Nelsson. From the log 04 Sep 1899

Omitted quarters and drill to bury the dead. At 8:30 called all hands bury the dead and half masted colors. The Executive Officer read the funeral service over the body of M. M. Nelsson (App 2nd Class). The body was piped over the side and lowered into the first cutter. The funeral party going ashore in the Gig: Whaleboat, 2nd cutter and sailing launch. The body was buried on Kabilition (Cabalition Island 16.11N 120.12E) Island and a salute of three volleys fired over the grave. Funeral party returned to the ship.
Further to above
12 Sept 1899
Merid to 4PM.
Sent boat ashore with Ensign C. T.Owens in charge to set up head board for M. M. Nelssons grave.

4 Sept
Buried on Kabalitian Island P.I.  (Now known as Cabalitian Island)
RIP Magnus
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Post by: Janet Jaguar on 05 January 2015, 15:21:51
What a tragic end to something fine.  Rest in peace, Magnus Nelsson
Title: Re: American Burials at sea and other recorded deaths...
Post by: Janet Jaguar on 23 January 2015, 02:23:07
16 Dec 1899 Romblon Harbor, Philippine Islands. John James, seaman, was wounded in the knee while engaged in landing U. S. troops. Pvt. Tilley 18th U.S. Infantry was killed in this landing.

Tilley was a Private in the 18th Infantry Regiment killed in the landing at Romblon Harbor. The Concord took his body back to Iloilo. He wasn't a member of the ship's crew.

RIP

Rest in Peace, Private Tilley
Title: Re: American Burials at sea and other recorded deaths...
Post by: Danny252 on 29 January 2015, 05:18:35
Not from the logs, but a crewmember who was mentioned in them:

I have made a correction to the 1901 listing, with B Arukic becoming Bert Arnkil. He was lost overboard in March 1902 during a storm whilst en route to Honolulu - newspaper report (http://cdnc.ucr.edu/cgi-bin/cdnc?a=d&d=SFC19020402.2.28&srpos=1&e=--1900---1902--en--20-SFC-1--txt-txIN-Albatross------). RIP.
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Post by: Kookaburra on 09 February 2015, 12:34:21
Thetis, 04 October 1889, a very small, sad tale.

At 1.12 E Dunlea (2nd CF) jumped overboard in a fit of insanity and was drowned, the ship was brought by the wind and stopped, main topsail backed, boat lowered: but after nearly 3/4 of an hour search returned without success.  Hoisted boat and stood on course at 2.10.  The life buoy would not drop so a circular buoy was thrown over and afterwards recovered.

http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Thetis/vol009of024/vol009_073_1.jpg
Title: Re: American Burials at sea and other recorded deaths...
Post by: Bob on 17 March 2015, 08:32:16
USS Jamestown
March 27, 1869 (http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Jamestown/vol028of067/vol028of067_073_1.jpg)
Making passage to Mazatlan

At 8.30 the funeral ceremonies were observed over the remains of Edward Collins (Sea).

No mention of cause, and I don't recall seeing anything in the previous pages. RIP.
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Post by: Randi on 17 March 2015, 08:53:01
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Jamestown/vol028of067/vol028of067_072_1.jpg
From 8 P.M. to Mid.
At 9.45 Edward Collins (Sea) died of the small pox.

Have a look at How to look at log pages before and after the one you are working on (http://forum.oldweather.org/index.php?topic=3489.msg62863#msg62863) ;)
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Post by: Bob on 17 March 2015, 09:16:07
Ah, thanks Randi. I had just read through that page earlier and missed the mention down there in the last watch entry.
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Post by: Bob on 28 March 2015, 17:02:42
USS Jamestown
June 19, 1869 (http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Jamestown/vol028of067/vol028of067_157_1.jpg)
Panama Roads

Commences and until 4 A.M.  At 1.35 George Salter (A.Mt) died.

From Merid to 4 P.M.  At 3.15 called "all hands bury the dead" and funeral party left the ship with the body of late Geo. Salter (Arm Mt) for burial on Flamenco Island.

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Post by: Janet Jaguar on 28 March 2015, 17:16:35
Rest in Peace, George Salter



He apparently died of dysentery.

California Digital Newspaper Collection > Marysville Daily Appeal > 23 January 1870 > SAN HtAMIMO NKWH.   
Marysville Daily Appeal, Volume XXI, Number 19, 23 January 1870 (http://cdnc.ucr.edu/cgi-bin/imageserver/imageserver.pl?oid=MDA18700123.2.8&area=2&width=368&color=all&ext=jpg&key=)

The very beginning and end for that article as it applies to Jamestown:
(http://s6.postimg.org/4oeqkg7ld/Jamestown_article_1870.jpg)
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Post by: jil on 29 March 2015, 05:40:07
Thetis 7th March 1890 - http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Thetis/vol010of024/vol010_037_1.jpg

At 2.00pm all officers, except the officer of the deck, together with a party of eighteen men under charge of Ensign J.J. Blandin, left the ship to attend the funeral ceremonies over the transfer of the body of Medical Director Adrian Hudson to the USS Monongahela. Funeral party returned to the ship at 4.00.

His memorial (http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=122390745)
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Post by: Bob on 29 March 2015, 09:07:23
Very interesting news summary. Thanks for posting it!

California Digital Newspaper Collection > Marysville Daily Appeal > 23 January 1870 > SAN HtAMIMO NKWH.   
Marysville Daily Appeal, Volume XXI, Number 19, 23 January 1870 (http://cdnc.ucr.edu/cgi-bin/imageserver/imageserver.pl?oid=MDA18700123.2.8&area=2&width=368&color=all&ext=jpg&key=)
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Post by: Bob on 02 April 2015, 21:28:32
USS Jamestown
November 8, 1886 (http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Jamestown/vol057of067/vol057of067_080_1.jpg)

4 to 8 A.M.   At 6.10 while hoisting the Main topsail the fore topsail tie parted, the yard came down the run, parted both lifts and Alfred W. Dixon, C.F.T., who was in the slings of the fore topsail yard fell from aloft, struck an eye bolt on the deck abaft the stbd. fife rail, and was killed by having his skull fractured, dying immediately.

Merid to 4 PM.   At 3.55 hauled up courses and called all hands, bury the dead. Alfred W. Dixon, C.F.T., was buried at sea the Chaplain reading the funeral service.
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Post by: Randi on 03 April 2015, 02:28:22
C.F.T. is most likely Captain of Fore Top
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Post by: Bob on 03 April 2015, 07:59:53
Ah, wondered about that, thanks.

C.F.T. is most likely Captain of Fore Top
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Post by: Maikel on 11 April 2015, 04:05:56
U.S.S. Yorktown - At anchor Nagasaki, Japan.

02-09-1897 - 4 to 8 a.m.:
At 6:00 discovered that W. Montgomery (Lds) was absent from the ship with out permission.

8 a.m. to meridian:
Offered through U.S. Consul a reward of 40.00 yen for the delivery on board ship of W. Montgomery (Lds).

http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Yorktown/vol018of040_cr2_to_jpg/vol018of040_076_1.jpg (http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Yorktown/vol018of040_cr2_to_jpg/vol018of040_076_1.jpg)

03-09-1897 - 8 a.m. to Meridian:
Upon request of Japanese police, sent ashore and identified a dead body found in the water as that of W. Montgomery (Lds).
The body showed evidence of violence.
The Comd'g Officer, the senior officer present, ordered a board of inquest to investigate the death, which proceeded ashore and held an inquest in accordance with par. 1714 Naval Regulation.

Meridian to 4 p.m.:
A Board of Inquest of which Lieut. S. Morgan U.S.N. is senior member met to investigate the circumstances of the death of Wm. Montgomery (Lds.).

4 p.m. to 8 p.m.:
The remains of W. Montgomery (Lds) were buried at Urakami Cemetery with usual honors.

[The above is a combination of the events page and an inserted note.]
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Yorktown/vol018of040_cr2_to_jpg/vol018of040_078_1.jpg (http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Yorktown/vol018of040_cr2_to_jpg/vol018of040_078_1.jpg)
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Yorktown/vol018of040_cr2_to_jpg/vol018of040_077_1.jpg (http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Yorktown/vol018of040_cr2_to_jpg/vol018of040_077_1.jpg)
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Post by: Janet Jaguar on 11 April 2015, 05:07:23
It's a sad way to go.  Rest in peace, William Montgomery.
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Post by: AvastMH on 11 April 2015, 08:13:30
Oh gosh - that's sad. :(  I wonder if his assailant was ever apprehended?
Rest in peace, William Montgomery
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Post by: Janet Jaguar on 16 April 2015, 23:14:52
From the Vicksburg:

Feb 27, 1910

At about 9:30 pm F.B. Henderson C.P. fell overboard from the Monticello SS Co's steamer General Frisbie near the entrance to Mare Island Strait and was drowned.  He was returning from San Francisco, having been on liberty.
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Post by: Maikel on 18 April 2015, 08:06:40
U.S.S. Yorktown - At anchor Yokohama, Japan.

29-09-1897 - 8 a.m. to meridian:
Sent a party to U.S. Naval Hospital on shore to attend the funeral of M. Larson F.1.C. of the U.S.F.S. Olympia.

http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Yorktown/vol018of040_cr2_to_jpg/vol018of040_107_1.jpg (http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Yorktown/vol018of040_cr2_to_jpg/vol018of040_107_1.jpg)
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Post by: AvastMH on 18 April 2015, 14:35:14
Rest In Peace, M Larson
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Post by: Bob on 19 April 2015, 15:25:14
USS Jamestown
December 22, 1848 (http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Jamestown/vol004of067/vol004of067_076_0.jpg)
Funchal Roads, Madeira

Sent the corpse of Alexr. Stewart (Sea.) to be interred, with 4 boats in procession.
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Post by: Bob on 21 April 2015, 21:25:06
USS Jamestown
Levuka, Fiji Islands

October 21, 1869 (http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Jamestown/vol030of067/vol030of067_121_1.jpg)

6 to 8.   At 7. Chas. M. Cubia (Boy) died of convulsions.

October 22, 1869 (http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Jamestown/vol030of067/vol030of067_122_1.jpg)

4 to 8 P.M.   At 4.30 sent funeral party ashore to bury the remains of the late Charles M.B. Cubia (Boy).

His death was also mentioned in the newspaper clipping that Janet posted on March 28 (http://forum.oldweather.org/index.php?topic=3377.msg106125#msg106125).
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Post by: jil on 01 May 2015, 14:18:08
Thetis 26th June 1890 - http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Thetis/vol010of024/vol010_149_1.jpg

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At 2.30 all officers not on duty left the ship to attend the funeral service over the body of Lt. H.G. Ellsworth USMC, at 3.00 half masted the ship's ensign

The Morning Call (San Francisco) (http://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lccn/sn94052989/1890-06-26/ed-1/seq-8/#) has an obituary for him which mentions that he served on the Jamestown in 1879.
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Post by: Bob on 09 May 2015, 11:28:45
USS Jamestown
At sea, recently departed from Honolulu
May 1, 1870 (http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Jamestown/vol033of067/vol033of067_127_1.jpg)

From Merid to 4 P.M.   At 1 shortened sail to topsails, set the spanker and hove to on port tack, main topsail aback. At 1.20 called "all hands bury the dead" and committed to the deep the remains of John A. Cotter (Lds) with the usual ceremonies.
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Post by: Bob on 27 June 2015, 12:55:17
Training Ship Jamestown
September 2, 1876
At Sea, North Pacific

4 to 8 A.M.

At 5.15 Andrew Perritt (boy) while casting off lee earring on mizzen topsail yard arm, fell from the yard, striking on after whale boat's davit, thence into the water, dropped the life buoy and lowered whale boat. Hove to with main topsail to the mast. At 5.40 the whale boat returned to the ship having discovered no trace of Perritt. At 5.45 filled main topsail and stood on course.

8 A.M. to Merid.

At 9.30 half masted the colors and called all hands to muster. Then held the service for the burial of the dead in honor of the unfortunate boy Perritt. - all hands employed holy stoning gun deck.


http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Jamestown/vol038of067/vol038of067_179_1.jpg
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Post by: Janet Jaguar on 27 June 2015, 14:11:16
Andrew Perritt, rest in peace.

the Daily Alta California considers Jamestown "our training ship."
http://cdnc.ucr.edu/cgi-bin/cdnc?a=d&d=DAC18760924.2.14&srpos=&dliv=none&e=-------en--20--1--txt-txIN-------

(http://s6.postimg.org/5pi28j9pt/Andrew_Perritt_RIP_2.png)
(http://s6.postimg.org/63je84ttd/Andrew_Perritt_RIP_2.png)
(http://s6.postimg.org/l0rv9571t/Andrew_Perritt_RIP_3.png)
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Post by: Randi on 28 June 2015, 04:12:15
 8)
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Post by: Bob on 28 June 2015, 07:02:20
Interesting, thanks for posting!
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Post by: d0cent on 16 August 2015, 11:40:42
Jamestown, 1849. Paraino (Paraimo?).
William Higgins, O.S. - at 1 a.m. suddenly departed this life. 09/08/1849 (http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Jamestown/vol004of067/vol004of067_191_0.jpg). Buried.
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Post by: Bob on 23 August 2015, 20:29:02
USS Jamestown
April 15, 1850
At Sea, Atlantic Ocean
23 10 00 N, 44 25 20 W

From 8 to Meridian.   At 11.40 Theodore Thompson an invalid seaman late of the U.S. Ship Constitution (for passage on this ship) age 43 a native of Pennsylvania left this life.

From 6 to 8.   At 6.30 called all hands to bury the Dead, Read the Episcopal Service over the immortal remains of Theodore Thompson (Sea. from the Frigate Constitution) and committed them to the deep.


http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Jamestown/vol005of067/vol005of067_125_0.jpg
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Post by: AvastMH on 26 August 2015, 12:18:17
February 5th 1886
At 1.30 the funeral of the late Lieut Comdr. Cutts U.S.N. took place on the yard. Half masted colors, sent bu~en to Assist at funeral sent a squad of twelve men to march in the line.

http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USCS%20Patterson/Book%2035/IMG_8335_0.jpg

I wonder if this is Lieutenant Commander Richard Madison Cutts, USN? I can't trace much about him - he may have been on the Yukon: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USC%26GS_Yukon_(1873)

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Post by: Janet Jaguar on 26 August 2015, 14:27:30
NHHC Navy Officers: 1798-1900 (http://www.history.navy.mil/browse-by-topic/organization-and-administration/historical-leadership/navy-and-marine-corps-officers-1775-1900/navy-officers-1798-1900-c.html)

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Cutts, Richard Malcolm.
Acting Midshipman, 22 September, 1862. Graduated June, 1866. Ensign, 12 March, 1868. Master, 26 March, 1869. Lieutenant, 21 March, 1870. Lieutenant Commander, 31 October, 1884. Died 3 February, 1886.
There are 7 members of the Cutts family in the Navy pre-1900 including the other Richard M Cutts.  Google says he was a descendant of Francis Scott Keys and his son, Richard Malcolm Cutts II, and his grandson, Richard Malcolm Cutts III, were both marines (colonel and general) buried in Arlington Cemetery. 


Rest in peace, Richard Malcolm Cutts I.
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Post by: jil on 29 August 2015, 07:12:24
From Thetis
October 31st 1891 (http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Thetis/vol013of024/vol013_067_1.jpg) at Mare Island
Quote
4 to 8am:
The body of James Walters (Machinist) was found near the Georgia St. Wharf, Vallejo, he having been drowned, during the night

8am to Merid:
Asst. Surgeon G.B. Wilson USN left the ship on duty to attend the Coroner's inquest in the case of J.H. Walters late Mach USN

Merid to 4pm:
By reason of his death the name of J.H. Walters (Mach.) was this day dropped from the rolls of this ship and from the Naval Service. At 3:00 sent body bearers from this ship to conduct the body of J.H. Walters (Mach.) from Vallejo to the US Naval Hospital.

Nov 2nd (http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Thetis/vol013of024/vol013_069_1.jpg)
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At 1:00 sent funeral party in charge of Lt. Denfield to the Naval Hospital to bury the remains of the late James H. Walters (Machinist) and at 1:30 half masted colors.

Rest in peace, James Walters
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Post by: Bob on 09 September 2015, 20:26:33
USS Jamestown
Buenos Ayres [sic]

September 20, 1851

From 8 to Mer   At 11.30 Dennis McCarty (OS) departed this life

September 21, 1851

From Mer to 4.   At 0.30 P.M. called all hands half masted the Ensign - performed the Funeral Services & sent the remains of the late Dennis McCarty on shore for burial

http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Jamestown/vol006of067/vol006of067_060_1.jpg
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Jamestown/vol006of067/vol006of067_061_0.jpg

Dennis McCarty was buried at the Methodist Episcopal Church in Buenos Aires.

http://www.argbrit.org/Methodist/MethFunls1843-60.htm
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Post by: Bob on 15 September 2015, 18:06:12
USS Jamestown
Buenos Ayres

December 17, 1851

From 8 to Mid.   At 11.50 Rob Thompson (Q. Master) departed this life

http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Jamestown/vol006of067/vol006of067_086_1.jpg

December 18, 1851

From Mer. to 4.   At 12.15 performed the Burial Service, & sent the remains of Rob Thompson on shore for burial.

http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Jamestown/vol006of067/vol006of067_087_0.jpg

According to the burial records of the Methodist Episcopal Church in Buenos Aires, Robert Thompson died of pneumonia.

http://www.argbrit.org/Methodist/MethFunls1843-60.htm
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Post by: Randi on 15 September 2015, 18:24:07
I wonder if that is Q(uarter). Master :-\
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Post by: Bob on 15 September 2015, 18:32:59
Hmm, comparing it to the 'P' in Pork just below, I believe you're right...fixing.

Thanks!

I wonder if that is Q(uarter). Master :-\
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Post by: Michael on 30 October 2015, 08:19:14
Concord 28 Jul 1906 (http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Concord/vol035of040/vol035of040_152_1.jpg), Chefoo, China

Just to set the stage, there are, at this time, many warships in Chefoo Harbour and on the naval target range: three US Colliers: Iris, Elcano, and Alexander; the USS warships: Ohio, Wisconsin, Galveston, Chattanooga, Quiros, Concord; French warships: Montcalm, Guichen, Guydon, Dupetit Thouars, Fronde, Decidee and a couple of unnamed torpedo boats; the German Furst Bismark, Taku, S-90 and two colliers: a flotilla of unnamed Japanese torpedo boats, and several unnamed Chinese gunboats.

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Sent an officer aboard the Decidee to inform the Commanding Officer that they were firing too close to this ship. At 9:55 the Chattanooga got underway and stood out towards target range, but came back and anchored at 9:35. While going out the Navigator of the Chattanooga was struck by a bullet fired from one of the French Cruisers while at target practice, and seriously injured.
...
The Commanding Officer left the ship at 2:10 for duty on a board of investigation to investigate the wounding of Lieutenant England. He returned on board at 3:20.
...
At 6:10 the U.S.S. Chattanooga half masted her colors. All the men-of-war in the harbor half masted theirs immediately. Lieutenant Bissett of the Wisconsin came on board to plot the ship's position and angle on the French Ships and plot their positions.

Lieutenant England, USN R.I.P.

PS
There are references in the next day or so of officers going aboard Wisconsin to continue the investigation. Nothing further in the logs up to the end of July.
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Post by: HatterJack on 31 October 2015, 02:33:27
As an aside, the reason for such a strong naval presence in Yantai (Chefoo's current name) was the Russo-Japanese War, and the first modern-style naval engagement with steel-hulled ships only a few months before this happened (check out the Battle of the Yellow Sea if you're interested, it's pretty fascinating stuff).

As to the shooting of Lieutenant England, I was able to find out a little bit more information, but it's pretty minimal.

Lieutenant Clarence England was born on 4 July, 1872, in a small town in rural Arkansas. He was the youngest of two boys. Officially, he was wounded by a single rifle bullet, fired by a French sailor aboard the cruiser De Petit Thours, during a training exercise. Crowded conditions in the harbor led to the Chattanooga having crossed the line of fire, and Lieutenant England was mortally wounded when the bullet caught him in the abdomen. After several hours trying to pull the bullet out and save his life, Navy surgeons pronounced him dead at 6:00 PM. He had just turned 34 years old three weeks before his death.

On 31 July, the French Embassy in Washington, D.C., issued a formal statement offering their condolences to the England family. They went on to say that the Lieutenant's death had been a horrible accident, and that the crew aboard the De Petit Thours, while exonerated by the Department of the Navy of any wrongdoing, would be reprimanded en masse for their irresponsible handling of the ship's small arms arsenal.

I can't find anything else regarding either Lieutenant England or the incident, which implies that the French apology seems to have been in line with the Navy's findings after the investigation ended.
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Post by: Janet Jaguar on 31 October 2015, 13:45:33
The Washington Post, Sunday 29 July, 1906
(https://img0.newspapers.com/img/img?id=31585491&width=557&height=1508&crop=1860_2434_1207_3328&rotation=0&brightness=0&contrast=0&invert=0&ts=1446317247&h=68977d22dbc1523de150145dc9698e7f)

The Washington Post, Tuesday 13 November, 1906
(https://img0.newspapers.com/img/img?id=28812889&width=557&height=1216&crop=3172_1803_800_1779&rotation=0&brightness=0&contrast=0&invert=0&ts=1446317308&h=f53ee578b3cc1d10367ff99e9196415c)

From Ancestry.com public files.  Location unknown, but likely near the family home in Arkansas.
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-mP9hq3M6v2s/VjULOpfqg2I/AAAAAAAADPY/8TAhXrPS0yw/w500-h375-no/Clarence%2BEngland%2Bdied%2Bon%2BChattanooga%2Bmemorial.jpg)
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Post by: Michael on 31 October 2015, 13:54:46
Concord 04-05 Aug 1906 (http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Concord/vol035of040/vol035of040_170_1.jpg), Chefoo, China

04 Aug
Quote
Half masted colors with flagship on account of death of Rear Admiral Train Commander-in-Chief, Asiatic Station at 10:00.

05 Aug
Quote
Made preparations for landing company to join escort of remains of Rear Admiral Train U.S.N.
...
At 8:00 A.M. sent first and second sections of landing party ashore to attend funeral of Rear Admiral Train, U.S.N.
...
At 10:47 began firing minute guns, thirteen in all, while body of Rear Admiral Train was being conveyed from Shore to U.S.S. Ohio.

From Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_J._Train)

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Train planned to retire from the Navy on 14 May 1907 upon reaching the mandatory retirement age of 62, but, before he could, he died of uremia in Yantai (known to Westerners at the time as "Chefoo"), China, on 4 August 1906 while in command of the Asiatic Fleet. After a memorial ceremony which the Japanese admiral Heihachiro Togo and other dignitaries attended at Yokohama, Japan, aboard Train‍ '​s flagship, the battleship USS Ohio, the steamer Empress of China carried his body out of the harbor under escort. His body was transported directly to Washington, D.C.

Train is buried with his wife at the United States Naval Academy Cemetery.

Two interesting notes:

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Promoted to rear admiral, Train became the commander-in-chief of the U.S. Asiatic Fleet on 30 March 1905. During his tour, he was involved in various ways with the last weeks of the Russo-Japanese War of 1904?1905, and after the decisive Japanese defeat of the Imperial Russian Navy in the Battle of Tsushima Strait in May 1905 units of the Asiatic Fleet escorted three fleeing Russian cruisers into Manila Bay in the Philippine Islands, where he ensured that their crews were well taken care of during a lengthy stay until they were able to return to Russia.

In November 1905, Train was at the center of a diplomatic dispute while with a group of American officers on a pheasant-hunting expedition near Nanking, China, when he accidentally shot a Chinese woman with birdshot, inflicting minor injuries on her. A mob of hundreds of Chinese villagers formed around Train‍ '​s party and attacked it, pushing Train into the mud, seizing the officers‍ '​ guns, and taking Train‍ '​s son, Navy Lieutenant Charles R. Train, hostage. When 40 United States Marines landed to rescue the officers, the villagers attacked them with pitchforks and the Marines fired two shots. Local Chinese officials refused to return the officers‍ '​ guns, but Train and his companions were able to extricate themselves without further injury to anyone. The governor of Nanking later apologized for the mob‍ '​s actions, returned the American officers‍ '​ guns, and punished the ringleaders of the mob.

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Post by: Janet Jaguar on 02 November 2015, 22:19:12
December 23, 1889
Mare Island Navy Yard

4 to 8 P.M.

About 7.05 the collecting boat was swamped while making a passage from the ship to Vallejo and the following men were drowned: R.S. Padgett (Mach) J. Enright (Sea) W.W. Lee (Sea) and Phillipi, a citizen newspaper peddler. The survivors were picked up by the whale boat of the U.S.S. Thetis. The collecting boat was picked up and towed ashore by a boat from Vallejo.


http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Albatross/vol020of055/vol020of055_181_1.jpg (http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Albatross/vol020of055/vol020of055_181_1.jpg)

This write-up in the
     San Francisco Chronicle (San Francisco, California) 25 Dec 1889, Wed - Page 6
gives more detail on the events and the people.

(https://img0.newspapers.com/img/img?id=27592962&width=557&height=3678&crop=1019_2898_622_4183&rotation=0&brightness=0&contrast=0&invert=0&ts=1446521151&h=83f2a22e9a066f5c9890a5df79e88051)
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Post by: Bob on 10 November 2015, 15:07:21
U.S.S. Jamestown
October 18, 1853
Montevideo

From 4 to 8 [PM]

At 6.30 the 3rd cutter was capsized while going from this Ship to the U.S. Store Ship Relief, the Officers and crew were all picked up, except Chas Hamilton supposed to have drowned


http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Jamestown/vol007of067/vol007of067_102_0.jpg
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Post by: AvastMH on 13 November 2015, 15:08:38
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R. Coe Seaman of this ship's company died at Oakland Hospital at 4 P.M.

He had been sent to the hospital two days prior. No reason was given.

http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USCS%20Patterson/Book%2040/IMG_8915_1.jpg
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Post by: AvastMH on 17 November 2015, 18:50:42
Concord 23 Jul 1907.

Ah Kwan died whilst on liberty.

RIP Ah Kwan
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Post by: Michael on 18 November 2015, 12:20:56
From Concord's log for 23 July, 1907 (http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Concord/vol036of040/vol036of040_251_1.jpg).

MEMO FOR LOG.
July 23, 1907.       4:00 a.m. to 8:00 a.m.

     On July 22, 1907, Ah Kwan, mess attendant 2d class, U.S.Navy,
went ashore on liberty. On July 23, 1907, at 7:30 a.m. his broth-
er came on board and reported that at 11:00 p.m. on the night be-
fore, while at a Chinese Club, Ah Kwan had fallen dead. His body
was removed to his home on the Tiendong Road, Shanghai, where the
Medical Officer of this vessel saw it at 9:00 a.m. July 23, 1907.
An autopsy was refused by the mother of the deceased and she re-
fused to allow the body to be moved. There was no evidence as to
the cause of death to be obtained from an inspection of the body.
There is no history of illness obtainable. The deceased was an
habitual user of alcoholics in large quantities. The death of
Ah Kwan was not in the line of duty.


From 25 July
 
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At 9.50 by order of the Commanding Officer the personal effects of Ah Kwan (M. Att. 2c) were delivered to his heirs.
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Post by: AvastMH on 18 November 2015, 16:40:35
oh - that's sad - caught by a terrible drug  :(
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Post by: jil on 21 November 2015, 14:08:51
USS Thetis June 11th 1893 (http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Thetis/vol016of024/vol016_103_1.jpg)
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Comd'g officer and four officers attended the funeral service of the late Lieut W.P. Ray at Naval Hospital. Followed motions of USRS Independence in half masting colors during the funeral service.

From the Navy Officer List (http://www.history.navy.mil/browse-by-topic/organization-and-administration/historical-leadership/navy-and-marine-corps-officers-1775-1900/navy-officers-1798-1900-r.html) his name was Whitmul Ray and Ray anchorage (https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=uakYAAAAIAAJ&pg=PA521&lpg=PA521&dq=whitmul+ray+1893&source=bl&ots=U1uMtBmY80&sig=6AUxiQbByGoU9V96eozBl4M4j9E&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjjxMvtl6LJAhWEkg8KHXofBeUQ6AEIHTAA#v=onepage&q=whitmul%20ray%201893&f=false) in Alaska was named after him.

Rest in peace.
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Post by: Bob on 25 November 2015, 17:38:58
USS Jamestown
June 1, 1855
Key West


From 4 to 8   word was sent onboard from the Hospital that Jas. White (O.S) has departed this Life

From 8 to Meridian   Sent onshore a funeral party to bear the remains of Jas. White to the grave



James White was shot by a ship's officer (http://forum.oldweather.org/index.php?topic=3513.msg121096#msg121096) while resisting arrest for desertion on May 29.


http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Jamestown/vol008of067/vol008of067_050_1.jpg
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Post by: jil on 25 November 2015, 17:54:36
USS Thetis July 13th 1893 (http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Thetis/vol016of024/vol016_141_1.jpg) at Mare Island
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At 1.15 sent funeral party to attend obsequies of the late W. Barnard, Carpenter USN.
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Post by: Hurlock on 02 December 2015, 01:52:35
Albatross
14th March 1905
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Albatross/vol040of055/vol040of055_144_1.jpg
D.K.Kapuniai, Cox., was taken to Agnew Sanitarium for treatment.
19th March 1905
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Albatross/vol040of055/vol040of055_149_1.jpg
David Kahn Kapuniai, Coxswain, died of acuta lobar pneumonia at 11:50am., at the Agnew Sanitarium, San Diego.
20th March 1905
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Albatross/vol040of055/vol040of055_150_1.jpg
x) At 1:00 pm funeral party left the ship, and returned at 4:35pm.
x) David K. Kapuniai, Cox., U.S.N., deseased, was buried at Mount Hope Cemetary, San Diego, Cal.

21st March 1905
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Albatross/vol040of055/vol040of055_151_1.jpg
The Paymaster sold at auction the effects of D.K.Kapuniai, Cox., deceased, realizing $44.20;

 It is not clear why the poor man was sent to an asylum for treatment of a lung disorder.
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Post by: Randi on 02 December 2015, 02:37:53
Agnew Hospital Training School for Nurses (http://www.sandiegohistory.org/journal/89spring/hospital.htm)



Kapuniai - http://www.sandiegoyesterday.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/deaths_obits_1915.pdf
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Post by: Danny252 on 02 December 2015, 04:48:59
Whilst later used to describe psychiatric hospitals in the US, a "sanitorium" formerly referred to a facility for treating long term illnesses, e.g. tuberculosis.
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Post by: Randi on 02 December 2015, 07:21:40
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/sanitarium
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/sanatorium

I don't remember hearing it used to describe psychiatric hospitals :-\
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Post by: Janet Jaguar on 02 December 2015, 07:41:33
The only real life contact I've had with a sanitarium/sanitorium was in my childhood when an aunt contracted tuberculosis.  She lived there for months, until she was healed enough to not be contagious.  Way out in the country, away from any urban contact, with lots of lawns and woodlands surrounding the building.  It was filled with tuberculosis patients, and we visitors were not allowed anywhere near the building.  They had park benches and small garden alcoves along a path around the perimeter and Aunt Grace met us at one of those, wearing a surgical mask.  She said it was well staffed with nurses and doctors.

Very pretty and totally isolated.  Which was intelligent, actually.
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Post by: Hurlock on 02 December 2015, 09:05:43
Thanks for the help.  I suspect you are right that he was in a hospital specialising in recovery from TB type illnesses.  My web search stalled at finding the Agnew Insane Asylum.  The area is evidently a hospital hot spot.
Thanks for the link to the obituaries.  David Kahn Kapuniai was only 22.  RIP
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Post by: Bob on 09 December 2015, 19:43:42
USS Jamestown
October 13, 1855
Eastern Atlantic

From Meridian to 4

At 2.30 called all hands to Bury the Dead and committed the Body of Black Whale (Kroomen) to the Deep.


http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Jamestown/vol008of067/vol008of067_116_1.jpg (http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Jamestown/vol008of067/vol008of067_116_1.jpg)
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Post by: Hurlock on 29 December 2015, 14:52:19
2nd May 1896 Mare Island Navy Yard
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Albatross/vol027of055/vol027of055_128_1.jpg

Half-masted colors with the U.S.C.S. Str' McArthur, during the funeral of an enlisted man of that vessel.
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Post by: jil on 12 January 2016, 04:13:44
USS Thetis - Feb 20th 1984 (http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Thetis/vol017of024/vol017_162_1.jpg)

P.[Peter] Burkhardt (Sea) was drowned in the surf by the capsizing of the 1st Surf boat about 4 o'clock.
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Post by: jd570b on 15 January 2016, 19:37:25
Maybe this will tie in to another log:

U.S.T.S. Jamestown (1886)

02/03/1887 - http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Jamestown/vol057of067/vol057of067_205_1.jpg

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The Commanding officer and Navigator went on board the "Saratoga" as members of a board to inquire into the loss of certain members of the Saratoga's crew off St. Fernanda by drowning.
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Post by: jd570b on 15 January 2016, 19:53:17
And moving ahead a few days:

U.S.T.S. Jamestown (1886)

03/03/1887 - http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Jamestown/vol057of067/vol057of067_206_1.jpg

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Commanding officer and Lieut. Jasper went on board the "Saratoga" to attend Court of Inquiry regarding the loss by drowning of 4 people belonging to "Saratoga's Crew
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Post by: HatterJack on 15 January 2016, 23:36:53
And moving ahead a few days:

U.S.T.S. Jamestown (1886)

03/03/1887 - http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Jamestown/vol057of067/vol057of067_206_1.jpg

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Commanding officer and Lieut. Jasper went on board the "Saratoga" to attend Court of Inquiry regarding the loss by drowning of 4 people belonging to "Saratoga's Crew

So, I doubt that the findings of the inquiry will be noted in the log, as it has little to do with the operation of the Jamestown, but I happen to have done some research into this rather by accident.

The Saratoga's Steam Cutter #4 had been launched with five members of her crew aboard on liberty to visit Pitch Lake on the island of Trinidad, while the Saratoga remained anchored in Otaheite Bay off the city of San Fernando. These 5 crewmen were Lieutenant Commander Henry Braid Wilson (whose naval history I was originally researching, as he later became an Admiral with a rather impressive career and the namesake of the missile destroyer that a very dear friend that is currently serving previously served on), Paymaster's Clerk Albert Taylor Cowie (who had lost one brother 11 years earlier to drowning at sea, but died before his youngest brother who also drowned at sea in 1902), Coxswain William Foster, Armorer Hugo Henry Hesse,  and Apothecary James Oakes, Jr.

During the return trip from Pitch Lake (which gets its name because it is a naturally occurring lake of asphalt, and Raleigh stopped for much needed repairs off the coast of Trinidad and found that the oil and tar that had not evaporated off the top of the lake made the best sealant for the ship's timbers he had ever used), at about 2:30 PM, the cutter capsized in a squall. Charles Thompson, Chief Carpenter, witnessed the cutter roll over and dove into the water, where he was able to rescue Commander Wilson, but in the time it took to mount a rescue for the other 4 men, they had already been lost to the sea, and their bodies were never recovered. Thompson earned a silver star for his heroism and skill in saving Wilson, and the Saratoga simply continued its long tradition of being a ship cursed to have sailors drown in her care.

A bit of history about that last statement; the first non-combat death in US Navy history was a drowning death aboard the original USS Saratoga, and accidental deaths were essentially the claim to fame for every ship bearing the name. Until as recently as 1994, when the most recent USS Saratoga was decommissioned her name shows up in the lists of non-combat deaths on a very regular basis. It is speculated by Navy personnel that the 1994 decommissioning will likely be the last of the Saratoga lineage, particularly in light of the fact that she was decommissioned not because she was unseaworthy, but because of geopolitics. That particular Saratoga had the distinction of causing an international incident when a communications breakdown aboard the carrier led to two RIM-7 Sea Sparrow missiles being put into the bridge of the TCG Mauvenet, killing Dutch Admiral Kroon and 4 of the Turkish crew and injuring nearly everyone else aboard on 30 September, 1992. There are, to the best of my knowledge, no plans to build another Saratoga, although I would not be at all surprised to see it happen anyway.

Edit: clarification
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Post by: Janet Jaguar on 15 January 2016, 23:56:28
Oh, my.  That is one very interesting string of connected events.  Thank you, Hatterjack.

Paymaster's Clerk Albert Taylor Cowie, Coxswain William Foster, Armorer Hugo Henry Hesse,  and Apothecary James Oakes, Jr. rest in peace.
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Post by: jd570b on 16 January 2016, 19:30:36
Wow.  Interesting history.  It sounds as if the original Saratoga left port on a Friday and mowed down a flock of albatrosses.  I bet that more than a few sailors in the Saratoga lineage thought about jumping ship.
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Post by: HatterJack on 20 January 2016, 06:45:21
Wow.  Interesting history.  It sounds as if the original Saratoga left port on a Friday and mowed down a flock of albatrosses.  I bet that more than a few sailors in the Saratoga lineage thought about jumping ship.

I've no doubt that many sailors likely *did* jump ship.

The first Saratoga was launched on her maiden voyage on a Sunday, so no bad luck for that. However, her first mission was a complete failure. She had been tasked with escorting the Mercury to Europe for diplomatic fundraising (read: beg for money) to finance the fledgling American government. Two days into the voyage, the Saratoga passed the frigates Trumbull and Deane, and communicated that they were to join the Saratoga to fill out the escort squadron. The frigates acknowledged the message and went to Philadelphia for provisions, but never returned to join the Saratoga.

Unable to wait any longer for Trumbull and Deane, the Saratoga and Mercury went out to sea through the Delaware Capes. This was when the Saratoga discovered that she was woefully improperly ballasted, and the heavy canvas used in open water made the ship dangerously unstable. After ten days in total, she was released from escort duty by the captain of the Mercury and ordered to take a short cruise and return to Philadelphia. The Mercury was then captured days later passing Newfoundland, taken as a prize by the Royal Navy, and the crew imprisoned in England for treason (as the Revolutionary War was still ongoing, they were still considered traitors to the Crown).
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Post by: Janet Jaguar on 20 January 2016, 09:20:57
That is called one very bad start to life. :o
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Post by: HatterJack on 20 January 2016, 09:56:58
Its ending is arguably worse. By that I mean that nobody actually knows what happened to it. On 15 March, 1781 (of course it would be on the Ides of March), less than a year after she was launched, the Saratoga left port at Cap-Francais, as an escort for a rather large convoy of 29 heavily laden merchant ships returning to America with supplies and French reinforcements. Three days into the journey, the Saratoga spotted a British merchant ship and broke off from the convoy in pursuit. After a successful capture, she split her crew, and set one half on their newly acquired prize.

The captured ship was using winter sails of a heavier canvas, and the crew had some difficulty controlling the ship when a sudden gale-force squall blew up. When they got this merchantman back on her rudder, the Saratoga was gone. No trace of her was ever found again, and her final fate remains a mystery to this day. It's assumed that she capsized and went under, but the lack of debris casts doubt on what actually happened.

It's been more than 200 years, and unless she's had constant expensive restoration work like HMS Victory and USS Constitution, she's almost certainly at the bottom of the sea now. Where, exactly, is something we may never know.
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Post by: Janet Jaguar on 20 January 2016, 10:05:14
May all aboard her then rest in peace.
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Post by: Bob on 23 January 2016, 15:14:13
Whaler Beluga
February 4, 1898
The Arctic, Winter Quarters

Mr. Flanders dropped dead at 10.23
last night. While undressing. Had finish
ed a game of Whist about 10 minutes before,
Had not been feeling well for some time
before, but had not been off duty. Remarked
to me the day before, "that he had not
felt so well for a long time" He gasped
twice after I got into the room.


Rest in peace, Mr. Flanders...

http://whaling-data.oldweather.org/subjects/logbookofbelugast00unse_0089.jpg (http://whaling-data.oldweather.org/subjects/logbookofbelugast00unse_0089.jpg)

For more, see the thread here: https://www.zooniverse.org/projects/zooniverse/old-weather/talk/157/11848?comment=70776 (https://www.zooniverse.org/projects/zooniverse/old-weather/talk/157/11848?comment=70776)
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Post by: Bob on 03 February 2016, 07:24:41
USS Jamestown
October 9, 1856
Off Porto Praya

From 4 to 6

At 5. Peter Warman (Krooman) departed this life. At 5.40 Called all hands to bury the dead, hauled up the Mainsail + braced aback the Main Topsail The Chaplain performed the burial service and the deceased was launched into the deep.


http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Jamestown/vol009of067/vol009of067_143_1.jpg (http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Jamestown/vol009of067/vol009of067_143_1.jpg)
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Post by: Maikel on 28 February 2016, 10:38:11
U.S.S. Yorktown - At anchor off San Fernando, Philippines.

17-01-1901

Meridian to 4 P.M.:
Sent 1st Div ashore in charge of Ensign MacArthur for target practice at 1:00.

4 to 8 P.M.:
At 5:30 Ensign MacArthur returned in gig with Rudolph King (Seaman) U.S.N., a member of the 1st Div firing party, who was seriously wounded in the head by a rifle ball, he having been accidently shot while acting as marker at the rifle butts.

http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Yorktown/vol023of040/vol023of040_042_1.jpg (http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Yorktown/vol023of040/vol023of040_042_1.jpg)

18-01-1901

8 A.M. to Meridian.
Sent Marines ashore for small arm target practice.
At 8:19 Rudolph King (Seaman) serving on board this ship died from the effects of a gun shot wound of the head.
Recalled Marines before any shooting was done.

Meridian to 4 P.M.
At 3:50 called all hands bury the dead.
The Executive officer read the funeral service over the body of Rudolph L. King (Seaman).

4 to 8 P.M.:
4:10 the body of Rudolph King (Sea) was placed in the 1st. whaler and accompanied by escort and funeral party was taken ashore and there met by the 48th U.S. Vol. Regimental band and 2 companies of that regiment and 2 troops of 3rd U.S. Cavalry and army officers of the post who accompanied the body to the grave where it was interred with the usual military honors.
Half masted colors during funeral ceremonies on board this ship and until body was landed on the beach.
The funeral party and escort returned at 5:15.

http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Yorktown/vol023of040/vol023of040_043_1.jpg (http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Yorktown/vol023of040/vol023of040_043_1.jpg)
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Post by: AvastMH on 28 February 2016, 15:30:08
At 5:30 Ensign MacArthur returned in gig with Rudolph King (Seaman) U.S.N., a member of the 1st Div firing party, who was seriously wounded in the head by a rifle ball, he having been accidently shot while acting as marker at the rifle butts.

Oh my! What a tragic accident...what a terrible thing to have happen. I wonder if the lad that shot him ever recovered from the experience?

RIP Rudolph King (Seaman, U.S.N.)
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Post by: jil on 11 April 2016, 04:34:02
Thetis April 25th 1895 (http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Thetis/vol020of024/vol020_010_1.jpg) - San Diego
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Sent a party of 19 men to attend the funeral of John Johnson (Cox.) accidentally killed yesterday on the Olympia

From Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Olympia_%28C-6%29) he was killed during gunnery practice on April 20th (which doesn't match the log entry). An article from San Francisco Call (http://cdnc.ucr.edu/cgi-bin/cdnc?a=d&d=SFC18950425.2.2.1) dated April 24th confirms the date of his death was 24th. (Also includes come interesting details about desertions from the Olympia)

Rest in peace John Johnson
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Post by: Randi on 11 April 2016, 08:18:20
 :o
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Post by: Bob on 17 April 2016, 08:28:32
USS Jamestown
November 24, 1858
At sea, off Nicaragua

At 2o'cA.M. David Powers (Sea) departed this life.

At 9 shortened sail + hove to on stb'd tack, Main Topsail to the mast. Called "All hands bury the Dead", + committed to the deep, the body of David Powers (deceased)



http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Jamestown/vol011of067/vol011of067_176_0.jpg
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Post by: AvastMH on 17 April 2016, 08:51:35
RIP David Powers
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Post by: Bob on 20 April 2016, 16:13:01
USS Jamestown
December 21, 1858
At sea, off Nicaragua

From Meridian to 4
At 3 J.F. Lockwood (Sea) departed this life.

From 4 to 6
At 5.45 Called "All hands bury the Dead" + committed to the deep the body of J.F. Lockwood (Sea)(deceased).



http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Jamestown/vol011of067/vol011of067_190_1.jpg
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Post by: Hurlock on 26 May 2016, 13:18:38
Albatross October 28th 1907 Honolulu
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Albatross/vol041of055/vol041of055_0147_1.jpg

At 8:20 a steam valve blew out in engine room while H.J.Mackey, MM1c., and Jas. Collarey, F2c., were working on it, killing James Collarey, F2c.  His body was taken to the undertakers for preparation for burial.

Commandant of Naval Station appointed a board to investigate the cause of the accident which caused the death of James Collarey, F2c.  The Board consists of the following officers: Lieut. Barthalow, U.S.N., Asst. Paymaster Brooks, U.S.N., Act. Asst. Surgeon Hart, U.S.N.  Court met at 9:30.

At 3:30 sent burial party ashore to attend the burial of James Collarey, F2c., who was accidentally killed on this vessel.  Halfmasted colors with the naval station, mastheading them again at 4:30.  A funeral party from U.S.S. Iroquois and firing party of marines from the naval station also attended the funeral.  The Board of Inquest adjourned at 11:30 to await the action of the convening authority.

31st October 1907
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Albatross/vol041of055/vol041of055_0151_1.jpg
By order of Commanding Officer the effects of J.Collarey, F2c, deceased, were sold at auction.
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Post by: Randi on 10 June 2016, 15:41:34
Jamestown 19 April 1852 Brazil
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Jamestown/vol006of067/vol006of067_131_0.jpg

At 6. I~~~~ Crawford (Lds) fell overboard from the Mizzen chains, and was drowned

I can't figure out the first name other than that it starts with an 'I' or a 'J'.

Quote from: http://www.gutenberg.org/files/26000/26000-h/26000-h.htm#C
CHAINS, properly Chain-wales, or Channels. Broad and thick planks projecting horizontally from the ship's outside, to which they are fayed and bolted, abreast of and somewhat behind the masts. They are formed to project the chain-plate, and give the lower rigging greater out-rig or spread, free from the top-sides of the ship, thus affording greater security and support to the masts, as well as to prevent the shrouds from damaging the gunwale, or being hurt by rubbing against it. Of course they are respectively designated fore, main, and mizen. They are now discontinued in many ships, the eyes being secured to the timber-heads, and frequently within the gunwale to the stringers or lower shelf-pieces above the water-way.-- In the chains, applies to the leadsman who stands on the channels between two shrouds to heave the hand-lead.



I am fairly sure the second letter is a 'v'.
Iviany ?
Iving ?
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Post by: Bob on 10 June 2016, 18:34:17
The last three or four letters sure seem to match with those in 'bearing' on the line above, but nothing renders a recognizable name to me.  :(
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Post by: jil on 19 June 2016, 08:18:01
Thetis December 30th 1895 (http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Thetis/vol021of024/vol021_066_1.jpg) - San Diego
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At 2.00 PAS G.A. Lung accompanied by M. Jacobson BlkSm left the ship in charge of T.A. Walker OS transferred to US Naval Hospital Mare Island, Cal by order of the Bureau of Navigation.
December 31st 1895 (http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Thetis/vol021of024/vol021_067_1.jpg)
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M. Jacobson (Blksmith) returned on board from city with the bag and hammock of T.A. Walker (OS). PA Surgeon G.A. Lung USN returned on board and reported that Thos. A. Walker (OS) committed suicide at Los Angeles Dec 30, 1895 and was buried in Evergreen Cemetery Los Angeles Dec 31, 1895 after an inquest by the Coroner.

Rest in peace Thomas Walker
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Post by: Bob on 20 June 2016, 20:14:15
USS Jamestown
January 31, 1860
100 miles east of Jacksonville, Florida

From 4 to 8
Alfred Williams, Lands. transferred from "Roanoke" to this Ship for passage to UStates departed this life at 6 oclock.

From Meridian to 4
At 1.30 hove to + committed to the deep, the body of the late Alfred Williams (Lds) an Invalid Passenger from the "Roanoke".



http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Jamestown/vol013of067/vol013of067_022_1.jpg
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Post by: Hurlock on 26 June 2016, 13:16:46
Albatross 23rd March 1897 Coronado
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Albatross/vol029of055/vol029of055_087_1.jpg
Sent N.B.Miller (Genl. Asst. Fish Commission) to the Hospital.

2nd April 1897
Received word that N.B.Miller (Genl. Assistant) of this vessel had died at the hospital during the night.

Mr N.B.Miller was one of the resident science staff from the Fish Commission on board the ship.  He has a number of the expedition photographs credited to him.

3rd April 1897
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Albatross/vol029of055/vol029of055_098_1.jpg
A party of officers and men left the ship to attend the funeral of the late N.B.Miller of this vessel, Genl. Ass't., Fish Commission.
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Post by: propriome on 28 July 2016, 05:21:44
USCGC Unalga

On 31 July 1929 (http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Unalga//Volumes/Seagate%20Backup%20Plus%20Drive/Arfon-JPEGS/RG26/UNALGA//b2584/b2584_036_1.jpg) Boatswain Anton Bernhard Eriksen is found dead.
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Midnight to 9:00am.
...
6:00 Boatswain Anton B. Eriksen was found dead in his berth, having been dead for about 4 hours. Acting Assistant Surgeon W.P. Rice, USPHS pronounced him dead and gave apoplexy as the cause of death.
...
8:30 Body of Boatswain Eriksen removed to Juneau - Young Undertaking Company for preparation for burial.

His funeral took place on 3 August 1929 (http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Unalga//Volumes/Seagate%20Backup%20Plus%20Drive/Arfon-JPEGS/RG26/UNALGA//b2584/b2584_045_1.jpg):
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9:00am to 4:00pm.
...
10:15 Color guard, firing squad, and all available men left ship to attend the funeral of the late Boatswain A.B. Eriksen.
10:30 Half-masted colors in respect of the late Boatswain Eriksen.
11:45 Funeral party returned.
Title: Re: American Burials at sea and other recorded deaths...
Post by: Bob on 09 August 2016, 19:44:25
USS Jamestown
January 25, 1863
Montevideo

From 8 to Meridian

At 10 am received notice from Civil Authorities that two Bodies had been found drowned, Acting Master A S Blanchard went on shore and recognized them to be James Wright (Seaman) & Charles Heis (Landsman), had them buried in the English Cemetary.


http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Jamestown/vol015of067/vol015of067_110_1.jpg
Title: Re: American Burials at sea and other recorded deaths...
Post by: Bob on 26 August 2016, 21:46:10
USS Jamestown
September 27, 1863
Yokohama

At 11. Received news from U.S. Consul of the death of Andrew Wallace (Sea) at the Hospital last evening at 10 pm

At 3.15 sent on shore Marine Guard + 6 petty officers to attend the funeral of the late Andrew Wallace.

At 5 pm the funeral of Andrew Wallace took place from the Hospital - the body was conveyed to the cemetery and buried with Military honors.



http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Jamestown/vol016of067/vol016of067_043_0.jpg
Title: Re: American Burials at sea and other recorded deaths...
Post by: Bob on 07 September 2016, 20:23:18
USS Jamestown
March 25, 1864
At sea, departing Manila

At 12.10 Fred Sipe (Lds) died, disease cholera morbus.

At 10. called all hands, to bury the dead. After reading the burial service, committed the body to the deep.


http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Jamestown/vol016of067/vol016of067_132_0.jpg
Title: Re: American Burials at sea and other recorded deaths...
Post by: Bob on 18 September 2016, 10:11:00
USS Jamestown
September 21, 1864
Yokohama, Japan

At 11.45 Dr Walton reported the death of John Cogswell (OS) from small pox.

At 3.45 sent coffin on shore to bury Jn Cogswell (OS)


http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Jamestown/vol017of067/vol017of067_030_1.jpg
Title: Re: American Burials at sea and other recorded deaths...
Post by: Pommy Stuart on 18 September 2016, 23:40:15
Albatross October 28th 1907 Honolulu
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Albatross/vol041of055/vol041of055_0147_1.jpg

At 8:20 a steam valve blew out in engine room while H.J.Mackey, MM1c., and Jas. Collarey, F2c., were working on it, killing James Collarey, F2c.  His body was taken to the undertakers for preparation for burial.

Commandant of Naval Station appointed a board to investigate the cause of the accident which caused the death of James Collarey, F2c.  The Board consists of the following officers: Lieut. Barthalow, U.S.N., Asst. Paymaster Brooks, U.S.N., Act. Asst. Surgeon Hart, U.S.N.  Court met at 9:30.

At 3:30 sent burial party ashore to attend the burial of James Collarey, F2c., who was accidentally killed on this vessel.  Halfmasted colors with the naval station, mastheading them again at 4:30.  A funeral party from U.S.S. Iroquois and firing party of marines from the naval station also attended the funeral.  The Board of Inquest adjourned at 11:30 to await the action of the convening authority.

31st October 1907
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Albatross/vol041of055/vol041of055_0151_1.jpg
By order of Commanding Officer the effects of J.Collarey, F2c, deceased, were sold at auction.

Further to the above
Enquiry set up 03 Jan 1908
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Albatross/vol041of055/vol041of055_0217_1.jpg (http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Albatross/vol041of055/vol041of055_0217_1.jpg)
Title: Re: American Burials at sea and other recorded deaths...
Post by: AvastMH on 19 September 2016, 18:05:23
I wonder what became of the supposed culprits?  :-\

RIP James Collarey, F2c.,
Title: Re: American Burials at sea and other recorded deaths...
Post by: Bob on 19 September 2016, 20:30:27
USS Jamestown
October 9, 1864
Yokohama, Japan

From 4 to 8 am

Received information from Dr Walton that James Dozier (1st Class Boy) had died during the night at the Hospital. At 6-45 rec'd notice of the death of Bing Westcott (1st Class Boy) sent coffin on shore for Dozier -

From 8 to Meridian

At 9-30 sent coffin on shore for Westcott.


http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Jamestown/vol017of067/vol017of067_039_1.jpg
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Post by: AvastMH on 20 September 2016, 18:45:28
Rest In Peace James Dozier and Bing Westcott
Title: Re: American Burials at sea and other recorded deaths...
Post by: Bob on 21 September 2016, 18:46:57
USS Jamestown
October 21, 1864
Yokohama, Japan

From 8 to meridian

Recd news Saml Clark (Marine) was dead

From meridian to 4

Sent coffin on shore to bury Saml Clark (Marine)


http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Jamestown/vol017of067/vol017of067_045_1.jpg
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Post by: AvastMH on 22 September 2016, 14:14:53
Sounds like he was onshore in hospital when the dread event occurred  :-\
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Post by: Hurlock on 02 October 2016, 13:00:47
I wonder what became of the supposed culprits?  :-\

RIP James Collarey, F2c.,

This may be your answer
27/04/1908 Manila
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Albatross/vol042of055/vol042of055_0067_1.jpg
sent port launch to Cavite Navy Yard in charge of Master at Arms with H.J.~.Mackey, MM1c., on court martial duty.
01/05/1908 Manila
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Albatross/vol042of055/vol042of055_0071_1.jpg
At 8:15 steam launch left for Cavite - Act. Asst'. Surg. G.G.Hart, USN., Wnt Mach. C.Crater, USN., J.Winter, W.T., and J.K.Gibbs, F2c., as witnesses on General Court-Martial, and the accused, H.J.Mackey, MM1c., in charge of the Master-at-Arms.



Title: Re: American Burials at sea and other recorded deaths...
Post by: AvastMH on 02 October 2016, 13:48:57
H.J.Mackey, MM1c must have wished he were somewhere else and somewhen else  :-\ :(
Title: Re: American Burials at sea and other recorded deaths...
Post by: Bob on 04 October 2016, 17:35:41
USS Jamestown
May 3, 1865
Macao

From 8 to Midnight

At 9.25, John Desmond (Capt. Top) died. Had him prepared for burial. Set Carpenter's gang at work making coffin


May 4

At 12.40, sent the remains of John Desmond on shore for burial.

http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Jamestown/vol017of067/vol017of067_145_1.jpg
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Jamestown/vol017of067/vol017of067_146_0.jpg
Title: Re: American Burials at sea and other recorded deaths...
Post by: Bob on 08 October 2016, 20:01:45
USS Jamestown
July 14, 1865
North Pacific

From 4 to 8
At 8.50, Wm. Wilkins (Seaman) departed this life, aged 49 years.

From 8 to Meridian
Expended for the burial of Wm. Wilkins two thirty-two pound shot.

From Meridian to 4
At 1 o'clock, called "all hands to bury the Dead," and after reading the Burial Service, committed the remains of William Wilkins, (Sea) to the Deep.


http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Jamestown/vol017of067/vol017of067_181_1.jpg
Title: Re: American Burials at sea and other recorded deaths...
Post by: AvastMH on 09 October 2016, 05:10:48
That's a sorry few weeks for the Jamestown crew, to lose two crewmates so close.

Rest in Peace John Desmond and William Wilkins
Title: Re: American Burials at sea and other recorded deaths...
Post by: Bob on 10 October 2016, 19:02:50
USS Jamestown
August 5, 1865
North Pacific

At 1.50 Louis Dewart (Sea.) while employed setting the Main Top=gallant Stud'g Sail, fell from aloft overboard. The life=buoy was immediately let go - Ship hove aback Third + Fourth cutters lowered, but he was drowned despite the efforts to save him. At 2.20 filled away again

http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Jamestown/vol017of067/vol017of067_193_0.jpg
Title: Re: American Burials at sea and other recorded deaths...
Post by: Bob on 10 October 2016, 19:14:22
USS Jamestown
August 6, 1865
North Pacific

From Midnight to 4:
At 12.45 Alexander H. Whittaker, Lds., departed this life.

From 8 to Meridian:
At 9.30, all hands were called to "bury the dead." The Funeral Service was read, and the remains of Alexander Whitaker were committed to the deep.


http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Jamestown/vol017of067/vol017of067_193_1.jpg
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Post by: Pommy Stuart on 14 November 2016, 01:05:22
Albatross 1900.

10 April 1909. 4am to 8am
John Olsen BM2c was stricken about 6:50 and at 7:00 died. [Could be Oben]
Cause of death uncertain - either apoplexy or heat disease.
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Albatross/vol043of055/vol043of055_0185_1.jpg (http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Albatross/vol043of055/vol043of055_0185_1.jpg)

11 April 1909. 8:25 to 10am.
At 9:30 sent body of John Olsen late BM2c USN to Canacao Hospital morgue for preperation for burial, remains accompanied by Medical Officer of this vessel.
11 April 1909. 10am - Midnight
At 2:45 Commanding Officer, five officers and fifty five men left ship in steamer, cutter and whale boat to attend funeral of the late J. Olsen, BM2c USN
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Albatross/vol043of055/vol043of055_0186_1.jpg (http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Albatross/vol043of055/vol043of055_0186_1.jpg)

12 April 1909. 10am to Midnight
The effects of the late John Olsen, BM2c were sold at auction for $23.75.
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Albatross/vol043of055/vol043of055_0187_1.jpg (http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Albatross/vol043of055/vol043of055_0187_1.jpg)

RIP John Olsen (Oben?). BM2c
Title: Re: American Burials at sea and other recorded deaths...
Post by: AvastMH on 14 November 2016, 14:32:46
He had a good turn out of crew then. Must have been a popular man.
RIP John Olsen
Title: Re: American Burials at sea and other recorded deaths...
Post by: Randi on 16 November 2016, 12:06:55
Dreadful Death on Board Albatross - page 6 (http://evols.library.manoa.hawaii.edu/bitstream/10524/45037/1/1907102901.pdf)
also
San Francisco Call, Volume 102, Number 163, 10 November 1907 - REPORT ON EXLPOSION (http://cdnc.ucr.edu/cgi-bin/cdnc?a=d&d=SFC19071110.2.166&srpos=3&e=-------en--20--1--txt-txIN-albatross+Collarey-------1)

However, I couldn't find out what happened to MacKey :(
Title: Re: American Burials at sea and other recorded deaths...
Post by: AvastMH on 16 November 2016, 16:00:33
Oh that is a most dredful tale Randi - grim.  :(

RIP James Collarey  :(


(Interestingly the Albatross appears again on page 7 of The Pacific Commercial Advertiser and I'll post it over in the [Albatross Shipyard] ) (http://forum.oldweather.org/index.php?topic=3966.msg134903#msg134903)
Title: Re: American Burials at sea and other recorded deaths...
Post by: Hurlock on 16 November 2016, 16:43:12
Albatross October 28th 1907 Honolulu
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Albatross/vol041of055/vol041of055_0147_1.jpg

At 8:20 a steam valve blew out in engine room while H.J.Mackey, MM1c., and Jas. Collarey, F2c., were working on it, killing James Collarey, F2c.  His body was taken to the undertakers for preparation for burial.

Commandant of Naval Station appointed a board to investigate the cause of the accident which caused the death of James Collarey, F2c.  The Board consists of the following officers: Lieut. Barthalow, U.S.N., Asst. Paymaster Brooks, U.S.N., Act. Asst. Surgeon Hart, U.S.N.  Court met at 9:30.

At 3:30 sent burial party ashore to attend the burial of James Collarey, F2c., who was accidentally killed on this vessel.  Halfmasted colors with the naval station, mastheading them again at 4:30.  A funeral party from U.S.S. Iroquois and firing party of marines from the naval station also attended the funeral.  The Board of Inquest adjourned at 11:30 to await the action of the convening authority.

31st October 1907
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Albatross/vol041of055/vol041of055_0151_1.jpg
By order of Commanding Officer the effects of J.Collarey, F2c, deceased, were sold at auction.

M.Mackey was sent to a General court-martial when the ship arrived in the Philippines.  Nothing in the logs about the outcome of this.
Title: Re: American Burials at sea and other recorded deaths...
Post by: AvastMH on 16 November 2016, 17:08:44
Sorry times then Hurlock. Thanks for tracking the history of the event down.
I'm sure that the moment of the accident was terrifying, but waiting for the court martial must have been grim too  :(  I don't know what I would have done in that circumstance. I guess the question was - did MacKey cause the accident by his mistake?  :-\
Title: Re: American Burials at sea and other recorded deaths...
Post by: jil on 20 November 2016, 13:44:23
Thetis December 10th 1904 (http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Thetis/vol607/vol607_169_1.jpg) - Sausalito

Quote
2.00 half-masted colors until 4.00 on account of funeral of Master-at-Arms Taylor, of USS Bear.
Title: Re: American Burials at sea and other recorded deaths...
Post by: Maikel on 17 March 2017, 09:41:54
U.S.S. Yorktown - Anchored in Magdalena Bay, Mexico.

20-01-1907 - 4 to 8 P.M.:
At 6.55 Midshipman I.W. Hayne, U.S.N. died on board U.S.F.S. Charleston.

http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Yorktown/vol028of040/vol028of040_210_1.jpg (http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Yorktown/vol028of040/vol028of040_210_1.jpg)

21-01-1907 - Meridian to 4 P.M.:
The Flagship held funeral services in honor of late Midshipman I.W. Hayne, U.S. Navy, after which his remains were transferred to this ship for transportation to San Diego, Cal.
An escort of Officers and men accompanied the body.
Midshipman O.I. Cox, U.S. Navy, reported on board in obedience to orders of the Commander-in-Chief to escort the remains of the late Midshipman Hayne.
After the remains were received on board a sentry was placed on duty to guard them.

http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Yorktown/vol028of040/vol028of040_212_1.jpg (http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Yorktown/vol028of040/vol028of040_212_1.jpg)
Title: Re: American Burials at sea and other recorded deaths...
Post by: Danny252 on 19 June 2017, 14:10:23
USS Atka, 22 January 1955

0925 Launched helicopter UR-25, pilot LTJG Moore, passenger Reverand Lineham.
1020 Received radio report of crash on ice barrier of helicopter UR-25, pilot LTJG Moore, passenger none.
1020 Rescue party called away.
1025 Received radio report that helicopter UR-17, pilot Metrolis, ADC/AP, was bringing back LTJG Moore in stretcher.
1035 Helicopter UR-17 landed on bay ice near ship carrying LTJG Moore on stretcher lashed to pontoon.
1037 LTJG Moore carried aboard ship and committed to sick bay.
1038 Metrolis, ADC/AP, boarded the ship and made report on crash of UR-25.
1325 John Pinkey Moore, LTJG, USN, 567489/1325 USNR-R died as a result of multiple injuries received in helicopter crash on ice barrier at 1020 this date. Crash occurred in line of duty.

https://catalog.archives.gov/OpaAPI/media/8003426/content/arcmedia/dc-metro/594258-navy-deck-logs/00001/atka-agb-3-1955-01/atka-agb-3-1955-01-0049.jpg

I wasn't able to find a record of a burial at sea in the logs in the next couple of days, but various websites (e.g. link (http://navy.togetherweserved.com/usn/servlet/tws.webapp.WebApp?cmd=ShadowBoxProfile&type=Person&ID=657868&source=fold3)) imply he was brought back to the US. They also report the crash occurred due to white-out conditions.
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Post by: AvastMH on 19 June 2017, 18:30:41
Oh that's very sad. His last three hours must have been very stressful.   :'(
Title: Re: American Burials at sea and other recorded deaths...
Post by: AvastMH on 11 July 2017, 19:23:53
(http://i.imgur.com/CDfuhd9.jpg?1)

Some pages in these logs stop you in your tracks. The terrible realities of this hard life strike you. The whaler is up near Unalaska and the weather and sea blowing and running hard. You sit back, your fingers leave the keyboard, and you gasp. You stand on that deck as horror-struck as the crew, and it's as if you were there yourself. You want to throw a life aid. You want to put more safety into the system. But you are simply a transcriber more than a century ahead.  Turning back the pages of this book cannot turn back time to make the difference.

'At eleventhirty oclock PM while taking in main topsail Guss Frohn seaman fell from the yard striking on Port rail thence overboard. The Capt threw him a rope and the mate the life buoy but he seemed too far gone to notice anything. We wore [around] [under] steam and picked up the life buoy at elevenforty but no trace of the man could be found.'

Rest In Peace Guss Frohn, Seaman of the William Baylies. His soul 'gone aloft' March 25th 1899.

[Reported to the New Bedford Whaling Crew Database (web@whalingmuseum.org) 2017-07-12]

P.S. His death was reported in a newspaper but I cannot get access to it. If any of you are able to do so it would be nice to see that entry: https://www.newspapers.com/newspage/27436333/
Thank you :)

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Addendum:
I thought to write to the Whaling Museum at New Bedford to record this death. I received a very interesting reply from the Librarian:

[...] Thank you very much for your e-mail. The crew list database we have available on our website is generated from the records in our possession that were maintained by the New Bedford Port Society contemporaneously from the 1830s up until 1925. As a result, crewmen who shipped on whaling voyages from ports outside of the New Bedford Port District are not included in the database. The 1899 voyage of the steambark William Baylies shipped out of San Francisco, so this voyage and its crew would not be represented in our database.
Sincerely,
Mark D. Procknik, Librarian
Grimshaw-Gudewicz Reading Room
New Bedford Whaling Museum
18 Johnny Cake Hill
New Bedford, MA 02740
(508) 997-0046 ext. 134     mprocknik@whalingmuseum.org
Title: Re: American Burials at sea and other recorded deaths...
Post by: AvastMH on 05 August 2017, 17:08:52
This caught me out - terrible news - the loss of a ship bar one of the crew.
The California has been in touch with a lot of other whalers during 1892, and one was the Helen Mar (the log notes Helen Mor).

On the 6th October the California notes the start of a gale.

(http://i.imgur.com/34t7B0d.png)

And there is sad news on the 9th October. The California speaks to the Jessie Freeman who reports that the Helen Mor was lost on the 6th and only one Boatsteerer, 'Nelson', survived (the ship was crushed to smithereens very quickly after becoming caught between two big icebergs).

(http://i.imgur.com/xN0nue3.png)

The loss is reported in a San Francisco paper (http://www.wrecksite.eu/doc/wrecks/helen_mar_crushed.jpg) along with the loss of William Robinson, chief officer of the whaler F.A. Barstow, and John Gallagher of the Thrasher, who also died in the Arctic this season of 1892.

Rest in Peace all of these lost souls
Title: Re: American Burials at sea and other recorded deaths...
Post by: Joke Slayer on 08 August 2017, 17:36:28
One from the William Baylies 1899

https://www.zooniverse.org/projects/zooniverse/old-weather/talk/subjects/9649773/?_ga=2.231514202.450765562.1502100120-484581848.1499300132

Incident of demise of C.E. Buckler Master May 24th Wednesday
Arrived at Diomede Is at 1.30 p.m. Capt. Comisky came on board at 3.30 pm made fast to the ice. At about 6.30 p.m. Capt Buckler while in a trade locker discharged a 45.70 Whinchester Rifle the ball passed through his left temple and out the right temple causing [instantaneous] death. Immediately called Capt Newth of Str Jenette on board and later Capt. Comisky & Levit all deemed it an accidental death self inflicted I then proceeded to St. [Lawrence] Is ([Officially] known as [Gambell]) that I might bury the body on American soil and to be assisted by the Mission teachers in the services
Title: Re: American Burials at sea and other recorded deaths...
Post by: Randi on 08 August 2017, 21:01:24
RIP Capt C. E. Buckler

Whaling is so dangerous that it seems a cruel irony to be killed by an accident.



Mentioned in https://www.newspapers.com/newspage/27615931/, but you have to pay to have full access :P
Quote from: July 16, 1899 San Francisco Chronicle from San Francisco, California -- Page 30
DIED Captain Buckler of the whaling steamer William Baylies died from wounds caused by the accidental discharge of a gun and was burled on 8t Lawrence Island

Found this too: Whaling Will Never Do For Me: The American Whaleman in the Nineteenth Century (https://books.google.com/books?id=5ZgfBgAAQBAJ&pg=PA170&lpg=PA170&dq=captain+buckler+whaler+1899)
Interestingly, it mentions that they tried to avoid burial at sea - at least for the officers.
Title: Re: American Burials at sea and other recorded deaths...
Post by: Joke Slayer on 09 August 2017, 13:59:12
Copying over from the other forum what I found on the Beluga's 1900 log after she got stuck for the winter somewhere around Baillie Island after trying to salvage the Schooner Sophia Sutherland (I believe the one of Jack London fame)
https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=rmKyCwAAQBAJ&pg=PA1666&lpg=PA1666&dq=sophia+sutherland+schooner+alaska&source=bl&ots=31mP-Hyr_V&sig=rI0TjhpgDDFgdst4K10eGHchwFY&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjq0fyH28rVAhWhI8AKHdRjB6IQ6AEIKDAA#v=onepage&q=sophia%20sutherland%20schooner%20alaska&f=false


https://www.zooniverse.org/projects/zooniverse/old-weather/talk/subjects/9504051/?_ga=2.231499098.450765562.1502100120-484581848.1499300132
Oct 17 - Tak Kak "Thrasher" a Port Clarence Indian died at 8:30 p.m. with consumption of the bowels. buried him at 3 p.m.

https://www.zooniverse.org/projects/zooniverse/old-weather/talk/subjects/9504053/?_ga=2.4491510.450765562.1502100120-484581848.1499300132
Oct 24 - Mr. Look very sick. Out of his head.
Oct 25 - Mr. Look died at 11.35 a.m. Passed away very quietly. Did not recover conciousness at any time. Mr. Gardner sat up with him, slept at intervals during the night. I administered 2 doses of 30 drops each of Laudamum and 1 of 20. at intervals of 4 hours. During the morning seemed to be resting quietly and sleeping most of the time. Had been expecting he might die for 3 days. Was taken sick at first with what I called La Grippe, recovered enough to report for duty for about a week. caught a fresh cold and died. Was wandering in mind for 3 days, but I think recognized me yesterday morning. Ate a fairly good supper last night. Showed a black or browness on his tongue and nostrils that I could not account for. Had been sick nearly a month.

https://www.zooniverse.org/projects/zooniverse/old-weather/talk/subjects/9504054/?_ga=2.158622847.450765562.1502100120-484581848.1499300132
Oct 26 - Digging a grave for Mr. Look.
Oct 27 - Buried mr. Look about 2p.m.
Oct 29 - Took an inventory of Mr. Looks effects. Divided his clothes etc. among the crew. Saved what I thought his people would want.

https://www.zooniverse.org/projects/zooniverse/old-weather/talk/subjects/9504056/?_ga=2.202542292.450765562.1502100120-484581848.1499300132
Nov 4 - "Bowhead", one of the Siberian Natives died at 11.15 a.m.
Nov 5 - Buried Bowhead at 9 p.m.

https://www.zooniverse.org/projects/zooniverse/old-weather/talk/subjects/9504059/?_ga=2.166956539.450765562.1502100120-484581848.1499300132
Nov 14 - Chas. (?) Jacobson died at 6.10 am from ~ of Typroid (?) fever was up on deck for two or three times about 10 days ago

https://www.zooniverse.org/projects/zooniverse/old-weather/talk/subjects/9504060/?_ga=2.226599256.450765562.1502100120-484581848.1499300132
Nov 15 - Buried Jacobson at 1.30 p.m.
Built a hospital on deck
Two men forward and myself on the sick list

https://www.zooniverse.org/projects/zooniverse/old-weather/talk/subjects/9504062/?_ga=2.260876616.450765562.1502100120-484581848.1499300132
Nov 29 - Frank a Diomede boy died on Stmr. Narwhal at 3.55 p.m.
Title: Re: American Burials at sea and other recorded deaths...
Post by: AvastMH on 09 August 2017, 15:34:58
Thank you so much for bringing these posts into the main Forum, Joke Slayer. Very kind of you.

Wonderful piece of history to link up the loss of the Sophia Sutherland with Beluga. I really must re-read some Jack London works!

Rest in peace Tak Kak "Thrasher", Mr Look, Bowhead from Siberia, Chas. Jacobson, and Frank from Diomede
Title: Re: American Burials at sea and other recorded deaths...
Post by: AvastMH on 09 August 2017, 15:39:37
One from the William Baylies 1899

https://www.zooniverse.org/projects/zooniverse/old-weather/talk/subjects/9649773/?_ga=2.231514202.450765562.1502100120-484581848.1499300132

Incident of demise of C.E. Buckler Master May 24th Wednesday


Truly Tragic! I agree with Randi - it's a hard enough life without the fates throwing in a curved ball at you whilst whaling  :o :(
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Post by: Randi on 09 August 2017, 17:20:05
Copying over from the other forum what I found on the Beluga's 1900 log after she got stuck for the winter somewhere around Baillie Island after trying to salvage the Schooner Sophia Sutherland (I believe the one of Jack London fame)
https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=rmKyCwAAQBAJ&pg=PA1666&lpg=PA1666&dq=sophia+sutherland+schooner+alaska

Right you are: https://books.google.com/books?id=3SeVHQAiqOkC&pg=PA28&lpg=PA28&dq=Schooner+Sophia+Sutherland+1900
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Post by: Joke Slayer on 22 August 2017, 14:57:15
In Barstow 1892 the writing changes midway through the log (page 29/48), the first page with the new handwriting is here:

https://panoptes-uploads.zooniverse.org/production/subject_location/54163136-5749-4c77-ab79-d4374294b45f.jpeg?_ga=2.118920713.1896382759.1503082697-1449818388.1497958650

From what I can make out the entry on August 20 reports the death of "Mate W.R. Robinson" (which might explain the change in handwriting), having some trouble making it out however as the writing is quite faint.

At 5~ ock P.M. the Mate W.R. Robinson was taken severely (?) sick and at ~ to 10 died sent for a Dr to Cape Smith but he died before he arrived. Had an autopsy but failed to find the cause of his death ~ ~ ~ ~ weather fine so ends the day

The cards at the start of the log state that the Master was a William Robinson
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Post by: AvastMH on 22 August 2017, 15:26:06
Oh how sad! No 'CPR' in those tough days :'(

I took a long look at the text and found:

'At 5 1/2 ock P.M. the Mate W.R. Robinson
was taken Seriously Sick and at 1/4 to 10 ~pm
died sent for a Dr to Cape smith but
he died before he arrived. held an Autopsy
but failed to find the cause of his Death.
suposed to be Appopplexey. weather fine
so ends this day.'

RIP William R Robinson

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
I'll pop a note over on Panoptes GTF34, I use a program called Irfanview to look at the page and adjust the contrast etc. Sometimes helps with these faintly penned pages.  :)
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Post by: Randi on 22 August 2017, 20:18:52
I did a little bit of hunting, but I didn't have much luck.
http://fultonhistory.com/Newspapers%2023/Maysville%20KY%20Public%20Ledger/Maysville%20KY%20Public%20Ledger%201892-11-07_3.pdf simply says that he died in the Arctic. Several other papers say the same thing.
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Post by: Joke Slayer on 31 August 2017, 18:28:45
In Barstow 1892 the writing changes midway through the log (page 29/48), the first page with the new handwriting is here:

https://panoptes-uploads.zooniverse.org/production/subject_location/54163136-5749-4c77-ab79-d4374294b45f.jpeg?_ga=2.118920713.1896382759.1503082697-1449818388.1497958650

From what I can make out the entry on August 20 reports the death of "Mate W.R. Robinson" (which might explain the change in handwriting), having some trouble making it out however as the writing is quite faint.

At 5~ ock P.M. the Mate W.R. Robinson was taken severely (?) sick and at ~ to 10 died sent for a Dr to Cape Smith but he died before he arrived. Had an autopsy but failed to find the cause of his death ~ ~ ~ ~ weather fine so ends the day

The cards at the start of the log state that the Master was a William Robinson

The same event from the log of the Baylies 1892
https://panoptes-uploads.zooniverse.org/production/subject_location/c614fd61-86fd-41a5-80a7-ab2c704de06a.jpeg

Aug 22
Mr Robertson mate of the brig F A Bartsow died last night and was buried to day Our Capt and all the other vessels Captains went on shore to the funeral
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Post by: Randi on 31 August 2017, 21:21:14
Thanks for posting!
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Post by: Joke Slayer on 03 September 2017, 20:16:35
https://panoptes-uploads.zooniverse.org/production/subject_location/2262bb8f-b5bf-4565-a5a9-4db7d1e48196.jpeg

Barstow 1891

May 7
Spoke Bk John & Winthrop in charge of the mate C. K. Tucker reports the death of Capt. Montross some time previous
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Post by: Hurlock on 04 September 2017, 02:03:25
A book called whaling masters gives his name as Horace B Montross 

AFamily history Montross: a family history; Pierre Montras and his descendants, a record of 300 years of the Montras, Montross, Montrose, Montress family in the United States and Canada book quotes a letter from Tucker saying he died 23rd March 1891 at 60.30N 189.00 E. 

They are in google books but I could not see how to get the full letter.
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Post by: Randi on 04 September 2017, 10:04:41
Good find!
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Post by: AvastMH on 04 September 2017, 18:28:00
https://panoptes-uploads.zooniverse.org/production/subject_location/2262bb8f-b5bf-4565-a5a9-4db7d1e48196.jpeg

Barstow 1891

May 7
Spoke Bk John & Winthrop in charge of the mate C. K. Tucker reports the death of Capt. Montross some time previous

Oh that's very sad  :(  Thanks for finding the history Hurlock
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Post by: Pommy Stuart on 07 September 2017, 00:30:31
Reported death Albatross 1900.
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Albatross/vol052of055/vol052of055_0029_1.jpg (http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Albatross/vol052of055/vol052of055_0029_1.jpg)

Confirmation of death.
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Albatross/vol052of055/vol052of055_0032_1.jpg (http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Albatross/vol052of055/vol052of055_0032_1.jpg)

Further to above.
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Albatross/vol052of055/vol052of055_0035_1.jpg (http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Albatross/vol052of055/vol052of055_0035_1.jpg)

RIP William Charles Estill Fireman 2c.
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Post by: Joke Slayer on 05 December 2017, 10:59:14
https://catalog.archives.gov/OpaAPI/media/12098902/content/arcmedia/dc-metro/594258-navy-deck-logs/00003/burton-island-agb-1-1948-07/burton-island-agb-1-1948-07-0057.jpg

Burton Island
26 July 1948

2255 PEEL, Rollie V. BM3, 301 39 11 USN, died on board due to respiratory failure during appendectomy
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Post by: AvastMH on 05 December 2017, 20:19:25
https://catalog.archives.gov/OpaAPI/media/12098902/content/arcmedia/dc-metro/594258-navy-deck-logs/00003/burton-island-agb-1-1948-07/burton-island-agb-1-1948-07-0057.jpg

Burton Island
26 July 1948

2255 PEEL, Rollie V. BM3, 301 39 11 USN, died on board due to respiratory failure during appendectomy

Oh my - what a terrible thing. Poor chap. An operation we hardly even think about these days. It makes you realise how much medicine has changed over the last 70 or so years  :-\

RIP Rollie Peel
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Post by: Joke Slayer on 11 December 2017, 15:39:33
20 Jan 1950
https://catalog.archives.gov/OpaAPI/media/12100133/content/arcmedia/dc-metro/594258-navy-deck-logs/00003/burton-island-agb-1-1950-01/burton-island-agb-1-1950-01-0044.jpg
2305 Received report that a man had been knifed and taken to sick bay.
2307 HUMPHERY, Wendell Neucolin, SK3 940 75 92 USN was pronounced dead by Medical Officer. Death was apparently caused by a knife wound in the upper chest.
2328 By order of the Commanding Officer, RAMIREZ, Charles (n) TA. 280 35 87 USN was taken into custody and confined to the brig for safe keeping pending further investigation


21 Jan 1950
https://catalog.archives.gov/OpaAPI/media/12100133/content/arcmedia/dc-metro/594258-navy-deck-logs/00003/burton-island-agb-1-1950-01/burton-island-agb-1-1950-01-0046.jpg
0000 The body of the deceased HUMPHERY, Wendell Neucolin SK3 940 75 92 USN, was removed by ambulance in the custody of LTJG W.C. DAVIS (MC) USNR, to the Naval Dispensary, NOB Kodiak, Alaska to await further disposition.
0015 The personal effects of the deceased were inventoried and placed in the custody of the Supply Officer.
1305 A board of investigation convened with Commander PAINE USA as senior member.
1405 The board on investigstion left the ship to view the body.
1531 The board of investigation returned to the ship.
1705 The board of investigation adjourned.

24 Jan 1950
 https://catalog.archives.gov/OpaAPI/media/12100133/content/arcmedia/dc-metro/594258-navy-deck-logs/00003/burton-island-agb-1-1950-01/burton-island-agb-1-1950-01-0052.jpg
1423 RAMIREZ, Charles (n) TA,280 35 87 USN, was delivered under guard to the brig at U.S. Naval Station, Kodiak, Alaska for safe keeping.
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Post by: Randi on 11 December 2017, 15:48:12
Brutal.
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Post by: Joke Slayer on 12 December 2017, 12:33:19
20 Jan 1950
https://catalog.archives.gov/OpaAPI/media/12100133/content/arcmedia/dc-metro/594258-navy-deck-logs/00003/burton-island-agb-1-1950-01/burton-island-agb-1-1950-01-0044.jpg
2305 Received report that a man had been knifed and taken to sick bay.
2307 HUMPHERY, Wendell Neucolin, SK3 940 75 92 USN was pronounced dead by Medical Officer. Death was apparently caused by a knife wound in the upper chest.
2328 By order of the Commanding Officer, RAMIREZ, Charles (n) TA. 280 35 87 USN was taken into custody and confined to the brig for safe keeping pending further investigation


21 Jan 1950
https://catalog.archives.gov/OpaAPI/media/12100133/content/arcmedia/dc-metro/594258-navy-deck-logs/00003/burton-island-agb-1-1950-01/burton-island-agb-1-1950-01-0046.jpg
0000 The body of the deceased HUMPHERY, Wendell Neucolin SK3 940 75 92 USN, was removed by ambulance in the custody of LTJG W.C. DAVIS (MC) USNR, to the Naval Dispensary, NOB Kodiak, Alaska to await further disposition.
0015 The personal effects of the deceased were inventoried and placed in the custody of the Supply Officer.
1305 A board of investigation convened with Commander PAINE USA as senior member.
1405 The board on investigstion left the ship to view the body.
1531 The board of investigation returned to the ship.
1705 The board of investigation adjourned.

24 Jan 1950
 https://catalog.archives.gov/OpaAPI/media/12100133/content/arcmedia/dc-metro/594258-navy-deck-logs/00003/burton-island-agb-1-1950-01/burton-island-agb-1-1950-01-0052.jpg
1423 RAMIREZ, Charles (n) TA,280 35 87 USN, was delivered under guard to the brig at U.S. Naval Station, Kodiak, Alaska for safe keeping.

An Update:
23 Jan
https://catalog.archives.gov/OpaAPI/media/12100195/content/arcmedia/dc-metro/594258-navy-deck-logs/00003/burton-island-agb-1-1950-02/burton-island-agb-1-1950-02-0049.jpg
1020 RAMIREZ Charles (n) TA 280 35 87 USN, returned aboard from N.O.B. Kodiak, Alaska brig where he had been placed in confinement under guard.
1022 Captain held mast as follow. RAMIREZ, Charles (n) TA 280 35 37 USN. Offense: Murder. Punishment: Recommended trial by general court martial.
1025 Pursuant to Commanding Officers order Ramirez, Charles (n) TA 280 35 37 USN was confined in the brig for safe keeping.
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Post by: Pommy Stuart on 26 December 2017, 17:52:03
burton-island-agb-1-1953-02-0059.jpg

Burton Island 26 Feb1953.
1600; LTJG Edward Dennis MURPHY, Jr., 510254/110, USN died instantly while setting blasting charge; detonation took place prematurely; death occurred in line of duty; negligence not apparent.
1651; remains of LTJG MURPHY returned to ship.

Not funny just really bad timing.
Previous watch recorded:
Experiments with ice anchors and "dead men" being carried out.
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Post by: AvastMH on 26 December 2017, 19:47:36
RIP LTJG Edward Dennis MURPHY, Jr.,  :(
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Post by: Pommy Stuart on 15 January 2018, 19:22:41
Storis July 1950

July 30 & 31st involved in search for missing Army C54 (AF2700)
Wreckage reported found on 31st, no visible survivors.

Also posted on Storis board.
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Post by: Joke Slayer on 22 January 2018, 14:07:05
https://catalog.archives.gov/OpaAPI/media/38547995/content/dc-metro/rg-026/587169/2017-01/storis-wmec-38-1943/storis-wmec-38-1943_0075.JPG

16-02-1943

1958 Boat #3 broke loose from its mooring on port side and lost from sight almost immediatelydue to heavy snow squall. The following men were in the boat when it got adrift: WALLACE, Raymond L. (253-253) MM 2/c and WUESTERFELD, Lester H. (249-040) Sea 2/c. Weather conditions did not permit sending ~party after the boat. Boat #3 is a 26 foot motor whaleboat #25712.

https://catalog.archives.gov/OpaAPI/media/38547995/content/dc-metro/rg-026/587169/2017-01/storis-wmec-38-1943/storis-wmec-38-1943_0077.JPG

18-02-1943

0810 Boat #4 lowered into water and secured along port side

0837 Boat #4 departed with searching with the following aboard to search for boat and ment lost on night of 16 February as noted in log of that date: Lieutenant Commander H.L. Wood, in charge; Dr. E. A. Goglia(?) U.S.P.H.S; Machinist M.M. MACNEILL; BURRELL, Grady L. (200-324) BM 1/c (PRO); SNOW, Kenneth a. (220-804) BM 2/c (Pro); SPACHER, Howard a. (235-058) HM 2/c; HUGHES, Elmer E. (231-423) SM 3/c; MARIANO, Stephen a. (578-570) F 2/c (R); POLLY, Robert L. (247-089) Sea 2/c; MAZIARZ, Theodore S. (235-367) sea 1/c; COKER, Charles M. (514-047) Sea 1/c (R), and REDD, Reginald (541-593) Sea 2/c (R).

1000 a Board of Investigation consisting Lieutenant Commander Ralph R. Curry, USCG, as senior member and of Lieutenant Langford ANDERSON, USCGR, and Lieutenant Russell a. SERENBERG, USCGR as additional members and of Ensign James D. LUSE, USCG, as recorder, convened to inquire into and report on the loss of life of Wallace, Raymond L. (253-250) MoMM2/c and WUESTEFELD, Lester Harry (249-048) Sea 2/c from boat #25712 on the night of February 16, 1943; reference letter from Commander Jack Th~ 24.8.2 to Lieutenant Commander R.R. CURRY -  COMANCHE - dated 17 February 1943

1127 Boat #4 returned with searching party of which Lieutenant Commander H.L. Wood was in charge. Wrecjage had been found by this party in a cove at southern end of eastern shore line from Julianehaab and identified as being part of the boat 25712 which went adrift as noted in log of 16 February 1943. Searching party brought back the following: (1) one piece of balsa covered with canvas and painted so as to be watertight, and used as a float; (2) one piece of oak which was identified as being one side of the engine bed; (3) one piece of wood framing; and (4) one piece of rubber belting used as generator drive belt on boat engine. No bodies were found by this searching party*

*As result of search WALLACE, Raymond L. (253-250) Mo M.M. 2/c and WUESTEFELD , Lester H. (249-048) Sea 2/c are presumed dead.
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Post by: AvastMH on 22 January 2018, 16:13:19
I don't know why, but it seems particularly poignant that these lives were lost so close to land  :'(
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Post by: Joke Slayer on 29 January 2018, 19:23:10
Also posted on the Storis board

https://catalog.archives.gov/OpaAPI/media/38547995/content/dc-metro/rg-026/587169/2017-01/storis-wmec-38-1943/storis-wmec-38-1943_0308.JPG

13 June 1943

0510 ESCANABA exploded and sank immediatley, two miles off port bow, in position at Lat 61 02 North, Long 51 44 West. General Alarm sounded all hands to general quarters stations
0513 3 engines on the line
0515 All guns manned and ready
0516 All stations manned and ready except damage control.
0519 Oil slick sighted ahead, bearing 160 PGC (158T) distance one mile
0520 Damage Control reported ~ed and ready
0524 Life raft carrying survivors sighted 100 PGC (098T)
0534 RARITAN commenced picking up survivors and this vessel ~ing RARITAN
0550 Various objects sighted in vicinity of RARITAN.
0604 Three objects sighted bearing 320 pgc (318T), identified as pieces of life-raft and life-jackets
0622 RARITAN reported three (3) survivors aboard.
0628 Object sighted on port beam. distant 500 yards, identified as piece of life-raft. Some small debris consisting of coke and pieces of life-rafts and life-jackets, spread over area of sinking.
0712 No other survivors sighted. Discontinued search and set base course 192 PGC (190T)


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USCGC_Escanaba_(WPG-77)

Quote
The USCGC Escanaba (WPG-77) was an 165 ft (50 m) "A" type United States Coast Guard cutter stationed on the Great Lakes from her commissioning in 1932 until the start of U.S. military involvement in World War II in 1941. With the outbreak of war, Escanaba redeployed to participate in the Battle of the Atlantic, during the course of which she was ultimately lost with nearly all hands. Struck by either a torpedo or mine in the early morning of 13 June 1943, while serving as a convoy escort, Escanaba suffered a fiery explosion and sank within minutes, leaving only two survivors and one body out of her 105-man crew to be found on the surface by rescuers.
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Post by: Hurlock on 05 February 2018, 02:42:19
USS Bear 7th July 1884 Godhaven harbor Greenland
The body of Frederik Jansen, Esquimaw, member of Lt. Greely's party, brought from Cape Sabine by this ship, was landed for burial at 2.45.  The funeral procession consisted of two boats from this ship, and one each from the Thetis and Alert carrying The Commanding officers and a detail of officers and men from each ship.
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Post by: Hurlock on 05 February 2018, 04:52:08
U.S.S. Bear July 5th 1884 Godhaven Harbor, Greenland
The surgeons of the Thetis and the Alert came aboard and assisted the surgeon of this ship in operating on Sergt Ellison U.S. Signal Corps.

July 8th 1884 Godhaven Harbor, Greenland
Joseph Ellison (Corporal 10th U.S. Infantry), member of Lt. Greely's party, received at Cape Sabine, died at 3.30
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Post by: Pommy Stuart on 11 March 2018, 01:09:44
Eastwind. 13 Dec 1945
https://catalog.archives.gov/OpaAPI/media/24428315/content/dc-metro/rg-026/587169/0001-A1/Eastwind-WAG-279-1945/Eastwind-WAG-279-1945_0535.JPG (https://catalog.archives.gov/OpaAPI/media/24428315/content/dc-metro/rg-026/587169/0001-A1/Eastwind-WAG-279-1945/Eastwind-WAG-279-1945_0535.JPG)

Man lost overboard.
HARLEY, Robert, J. (676-354) EM1C USCGR

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Post by: Maikel on 19 April 2018, 04:07:47
U.S.S. Yorktown - At anchor off Guayaquil, Ecuador.

23-01-1912 - 8 A.M. to Meridian:
Received word from office of Dr. Parker that C. Woods, (O Sea) died at 9:30 am this day from yellow fever.

http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Yorktown/vol036of040/vol036of040_015_1.jpg (http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Yorktown/vol036of040/vol036of040_015_1.jpg)
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Post by: Maikel on 19 April 2018, 09:46:40
U.S.S. Yorktown - At anchor off Guayaquil, Ecuador.

24-01-1912 - Commences and until 4 A.M.:
Commander L.C. Bertolette, U.S. Navy, died at 3:14 from yellow fever.

4 - 8 A.M.:
At 8:00, colors half-masted Ensign, Jack, and commission pennant.

8 A.M. to Meridian:
Transferred remains of Commander L.C. Bertolette, U.S.N., in charge of Ensign C.C. Thomas to the U.S. Consulate for embalming.
The following articles of the effects of Commander L.C. Bertolette, U.S.N., were burned by the direction of the medical Officer:- one mattress and one cover and two pillows.

http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Yorktown/vol036of040/vol036of040_016_1.jpg (http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Yorktown/vol036of040/vol036of040_016_1.jpg)

25-01-1912

4 - 8 A.M.:
Ensign W.C. Faus, U.S.N., left ship on duty to get remains of the late Commander L.C. Bertolette, U.S.N.
At 11:40 Ecuadorian torpedo tug "Tarqui" sighted underway.
At 11:50 torpedo tug "Tarqui" came alongside with remains of the late Commander L.C. Bartolette.
Upon transfer of the body on board ship the U.S. Consul General, Vice Consul, Ecuadorian officers, friends, etc., came on board for a few minutes.

8 A.M. to Meridian:
At 12:17 Ecuadorian Torpedo tug "Targui" shoved off with guard, dignitaries, etc.

http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Yorktown/vol036of040/vol036of040_017_1.jpg (http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Yorktown/vol036of040/vol036of040_017_1.jpg)
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Post by: Randi on 28 May 2018, 10:29:40
What happens when a soldier dies (https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/what-happens-when-a-soldier-dies/2018/05/27/18073e86-6031-11e8-9ee3-49d6d4814c4c_story.html?utm_term=.6d1f979b9465&wpisrc=nl_headlines&wpmm=1)
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Post by: Hurlock on 31 May 2018, 11:52:20
Bear, Incident on 6th June 1891 - http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USRC%20Bear/vol069/vol069_070_1.jpg ; but details reported 7th June 1891 - http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USRC%20Bear/vol069/vol069_071_1.jpg

10.15 boat returned and reported the following information from Lieut. Jarvis: that Lieut. Robinson, coxswain Hassler, seamen J.J. Andersen, H. Smith and A. Nelson and H.C. Moore of Prof. Russell's party were lost in attempting to land, that the bodies of Lieut. Robinson and seaman Anderson had been found; that the boats were all right. Instructed Lieut. Jarvis by signal to bury dead except Lieut. Robinson and to bring that body with him; to bring his men on board, the explorers to remain on shore and follow the beach east.

May they all rest in peace.

Rest in peace,
  lieut. Leonidus L. Robinson,
  coxswain Hassler,
  seaman J.J. Andersen,
  seaman H. Smith
  seaman A. Nelson
  H.C. Moore

Some more details on some of the names of the deceased
Coxswain James Hassler- Named as being in the cutter on 6th June log
Seaman J.J.Andersen- Possibly Anderson by the handwriting.
Seaman Henry Smith- Named in a newspaper account of the accident
Seaman Archibald Nelson- Named in the log when he missed the ship sailing from Seattle on the 22nd May.  Caught up with the ship later in the day at Port Townsend.

10th June 1891, Sitka Harbor
https://catalog.archives.gov/OpaAPI/media/6919211/content/arcmedia/dc-metro/rg-026/585454-noaa/bear/vol069/26-159A-bear-vol069_074.jpg
Made preparations for the burial of 3' Lieut. Robinson. 10.30 Lieut Broadbent with escort of 12 men took body on shore in launch.  Captain and ward-room officers proceeded in gig to attend burial services.  Half masted flag on vessel and in boats until return of burial party.

1.00 burial party of officers and men returned on board.  Hoisted flag to peak.  Suspended work for the day.

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Post by: Hurlock on 08 July 2018, 03:08:55
USRM Bear - Port Clarence, Alaska 5th July 1893
https://catalog.archives.gov/OpaAPI/media/6919216/content/arcmedia/dc-metro/rg-026/585454-noaa/bear/vol073/26-159A-bear-vol073_074.jpg
Took on board Mariano Maye, first mate of Bk James Allen, whose leg was amputated on June the twenty third.
July 6th 1893
https://catalog.archives.gov/OpaAPI/media/6919216/content/arcmedia/dc-metro/rg-026/585454-noaa/bear/vol073/26-159A-bear-vol073_075.jpg
Landed Mr Mariano Maye, Ex-mate of the Bk. James Allen at Reindeer Station.  Detailed Surgeon C.C.Gleaver and ordinary Seaman Jones to attend him.
August 21st 1893
https://catalog.archives.gov/OpaAPI/media/6919216/content/arcmedia/dc-metro/rg-026/585454-noaa/bear/vol073/26-159A-bear-vol073_124.jpg
Received the effects of Mariana Maye, ex-1st mate of whaling Bk. James Allen, who died at Reindeer Station, July 19th, for transportation to his family at San Leandro, California.

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Post by: Michael on 08 July 2018, 12:18:46
 :( :( :(
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Post by: Randi on 08 July 2018, 13:38:16
RIP
Title: Re: American Burials at sea and other recorded deaths...
Post by: Hurlock on 09 July 2018, 04:58:58
USRM Bear 28th August 1893 Cape Prince of Wales
https://catalog.archives.gov/OpaAPI/media/6919216/content/arcmedia/dc-metro/rg-026/585454-noaa/bear/vol073/26-159A-bear-vol073_131.jpg

officers reported that Mr H.R.Thornton, teacher of the Mission School, had been shot and killed in the night of the 19th inst. by two natives Kongok, Idlionowick.  The other natives, learning of the murder, shot and killed Kongok and Idlionowick and wounded Titalk another native who did no shooting but was with them at the time.  He afterwards got away.  The body of Mr Thornton was found in the house, decomposition having set in.  The bodies of the two natives were found on the hillside, back of the house where they had been dragged after being killed.  Carpenter made a coffin for the remains of Mr Thornton.

8:20 officers and boat's crew went ashore with coffin.  11:10 officers and boat's crew returned, having buried the remains of Mr Thornton on the hillside back of the Mission House.

Kongok and Idlionowick were two youths that had been expelled from the mission school for unruly conduct.
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Post by: Randi on 09 July 2018, 09:32:11
Among the Eskimos of Wales, Alaska, 1890-93, by Harrison Robertson Thornton; edited and annotated by Neda S. Thornton and William M. Thornton, Jr. (https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=uc1.b4517519;view=1up;seq=9)
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Post by: Pommy Stuart on 20 August 2018, 05:19:13
From log Corwin June 9, 1884, Norton Sound.
https://catalog.archives.gov/OpaAPI/media/6919269/content/arcmedia/dc-metro/rg-026/585454-noaa/corwin/vol198/26-159A-corwin-vol198_051.jpg (https://catalog.archives.gov/OpaAPI/media/6919269/content/arcmedia/dc-metro/rg-026/585454-noaa/corwin/vol198/26-159A-corwin-vol198_051.jpg)

5:30AM
Sent boat with 1st Lieutenant to communicate with mining party and offer such aid as they might require. Report in regard to sailing schooner confirms as she has not reached San Francisco, it is believed she is a total loss with all on board.
__
Sent provisions over during the day.
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7:20PM
Got underway and stood out of harbor.

No mention of the schooner before or after these notes in the log book.

From https://www.biodiversitylibrary.org/item/48258#page/20/mode/1up (https://www.biodiversitylibrary.org/item/48258#page/20/mode/1up) Pages 8 and 9, It seems it was the Alaska with 20 men onboard.
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Post by: Randi on 21 August 2018, 20:15:30
Good work!
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Post by: Pommy Stuart on 25 August 2018, 01:17:23
Corwin 24 April 1882. (2nd day out from San Francisco.)
Lost overboard G.A. Peters, Seaman.
https://catalog.archives.gov/OpaAPI/media/6919267/content/arcmedia/dc-metro/rg-026/585454-noaa/corwin/vol194/26-159A-corwin-vol194_012.jpg (https://catalog.archives.gov/OpaAPI/media/6919267/content/arcmedia/dc-metro/rg-026/585454-noaa/corwin/vol194/26-159A-corwin-vol194_012.jpg)

(1 hr & 8 min search later search deemed useless to prolong so steamed ahead.)
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Post by: Pommy Stuart on 27 August 2018, 16:46:51
Corwin 14 May 1882. 8-merid and on.

https://catalog.archives.gov/OpaAPI/media/6919267/content/arcmedia/dc-metro/rg-026/585454-noaa/corwin/vol194/26-159A-corwin-vol194_032.jpg (https://catalog.archives.gov/OpaAPI/media/6919267/content/arcmedia/dc-metro/rg-026/585454-noaa/corwin/vol194/26-159A-corwin-vol194_032.jpg)

Captain of "Hunter" reported the the whaling bark "Sappho" had been crushed in the ice near Plover bay a few days previously,
 that the crew escaped and were distributed among the fleet.
Her also reported the natives of Cape Tshaplin informed him (yesterday) that the "Rodgers" was burning that her crew or a portion of it were in St Lawrence Bay, that the first officer had been drowned, that several of the ship's company had died during the winter and that those remaining were in a destitute condition.
 Spoke "bark 'Fleeting" of New Bedford; her Captain coroborated the story of the "Hunter" and stated that the "North Star" had gone to the relief of Lieut Berry.
______+
15th May, 5 officers and 27 crew of the Rodgers crew came on board.
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Post by: Randi on 27 August 2018, 16:58:24
http://www.naval-history.net/OW-US/Rodgers/USS_Rodgers-1881.htm
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Post by: Pommy Stuart on 13 October 2018, 18:01:55
Thetis, 31 Aug 1888.
E.D. Haley (CH) jumperd overboard. Drowned at sea.

https://catalog.archives.gov/OpaAPI/media/7284500/content/arcmedia/dc-metro/rg-024/581208-noaa/118/thetis/vol007of024/24-118-thetis-vol007_037.jpg (https://catalog.archives.gov/OpaAPI/media/7284500/content/arcmedia/dc-metro/rg-024/581208-noaa/118/thetis/vol007of024/24-118-thetis-vol007_037.jpg)
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Post by: Randi on 13 October 2018, 19:25:48
It must have been a hard life.
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Post by: Pommy Stuart on 16 October 2018, 04:23:41
Thetis
2 Oct 1888,
Reported that a boat containing four Chinese from this ship and two from Pinto had capsized.
The body of the Cabin Cook from the Pinto was recovered.
Yay Hay (Lds) & Lim Jim and the ward room steward of the Pinto reported missing.

3 Oct 1888.
Body of the Ward Room Steward of the Pinto was found.

19th Oct 1888.
Body of Yay Hay was found.

20th Oct 1888
Body of Lim JIm was found.
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Post by: AvastMH on 16 October 2018, 13:48:30
Oh that's very sad  :'(
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Post by: Randi on 16 October 2018, 14:13:40
Yes.
I'm glad they found everyone even though it took awhile.
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Post by: Michael on 22 October 2018, 21:54:28
It is with great sadness that I report that Craig Gaston (https://necrocanada.com/obituaries-2018/gaston-craig-p-2018-10-06/#.W854pPZryCg) died on October 6.

Craig was a dedicated member of the Old Weather team. His first of 2,746 posts was Feb 23, 2012 and his final post, wishing Dean a happy birthday was July 20 this year. He was a great help to me when I started using AutoHotKeys, and again when I was learning to use LIbreCalc macros. We had lots of correspondence and a few Skype chats.

Craig worked on the following ships and entered at least 644,500 WRs:

He became a good friend, and I will miss him.
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Post by: Randi on 22 October 2018, 22:27:32
He will indeed be missed.
He last logged in here on 20 September.

I knew he was terminally ill, but this still comes as a shock.
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Post by: Pommy Stuart on 22 October 2018, 22:59:44
Rest in Peace Craig.
Your ship came into port to early.
Stuart.
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Post by: Hurlock on 23 October 2018, 01:53:23
Rest in Peace Craig
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Post by: Maikel on 23 October 2018, 02:53:58
Sorry to hear. RIP Craig.
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Post by: propriome on 23 October 2018, 03:38:54
Rest In Peace Craig
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Post by: lollia paolina on 23 October 2018, 05:29:29
I am sorry to hear such a sad news.
My deepest sympathy to his family.
Craig will be remembered with great affection by all OW transcribers.
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Post by: AvastMH on 23 October 2018, 14:51:54



:'( :'( :'(      I second your words Sylvia     :'( :'( :'(

(https://i.imgur.com/keUrTTu.png)
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Post by: Bob on 25 October 2018, 18:38:13
I am so sorry and sad to hear this. Rest in peace, Craig.
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Post by: Caro on 26 October 2018, 02:48:27
Such sad news.
Rest in peace, Craig.
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Post by: AvastMH on 27 October 2018, 17:05:10
With respect to Craig



The Grampus
October 16th 1858
at 3 A.M. Mathue Knowland died of consumption
Age 24
October 17th 1858
at 4 P.M. commited the body of Mathue Knowland to the deep

(https://i.imgur.com/rLg9q6f.png)

Rest in peace Mathue Knowland
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Post by: AvastMH on 30 October 2018, 13:31:57

The North Star James S. Carter Master Bound to Arctic ocean
(https://i.imgur.com/FEw4nhl.png)
Thuesday Aug. 23d., 1881 (https://archive.org/details/northstarsteamba00nort/page/5)
[...] at 10.45 by first Part Charles E. Robertson 5th Mate fell from the top of the House to the Main Deck striking on his head an Shoulders Recieving Injuries from which he died in 10 hours Expiring at 9.30 of Latter Part he never after he recieved his fall which is supposed was caused by a Fainting Fit as no one saw fall but heard him strike the Deck Used Every available means but could not retern Conciousness quit all work and Prepared the Corpse for Burial made a [ ] of his Effects and Stowed them away [...]
Wednesday Aug. 24th
[...] at 4 P.M. of First Part Backed the main yard set the Colors half mast. Read the Burial at Sea and commited the Remains of our Deceased Brother to the deep [...]

Rest in Peace Charles E. Robertson
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Post by: Hanibal94 on 09 November 2018, 15:46:51
It is with great sadness that I report that Craig Gaston (https://necrocanada.com/obituaries-2018/gaston-craig-p-2018-10-06/#.W854pPZryCg) died on October 6.

Only just found out - so sad!  :'( :'( :'(

I liked Craig. We were both heavily motivated by the science, and communicated a lot via PM and the occasional Skype chat.

I will miss him and remember him fondly. Requiescat in Pace, my friend.
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Post by: Randi on 09 November 2018, 19:41:22
Yes, a great loss and very sad.

I don't usually pay much attention to the cartoon page, but I was sending him cartoons the last few months.
Now I think of him when I see the cartoon page.
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Post by: AvastMH on 10 November 2018, 04:29:41
Would anyone happen to know who Craig's cartoon avatar captain was please?
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Post by: AvastMH on 21 April 2019, 07:48:53
Report from the Steam Bark Lucretia (whaler). A little to the West of St Matthews Island in the Bering Sea, and frequently bound by ice.

The Departure of Frits Folemann (the journey crew page notes his name as Fritz Follman) on April 21st 1883 (https://archive.org/details/lucretiasteambar00lucr/page/121)
Capt. Kelley holds the Service despite being sick from a serious and compromising heart complaint himself.

Frits had been poorly for some days. Clearly his reluctance to get up on deck had a real cause.

18830410   Frits Folemann Sick and lays by about 1/2 the time
18830413   Frits Folemann Still complains of illness and has to be Erged to get on Deck


Frits Folemann Departed this world at 2 PM was Bered at 8.30 Am Preformed the Solum duty to our Ship mate
at 8.30 Am All Hands was called to attend the Berual of a departed Ship mate Service by Capt Kelley

(https://i.imgur.com/oJu0Osy.png)
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Post by: Randi on 08 August 2019, 20:50:54
June 2, Unalaska

https://catalog.archives.gov/OpaAPI/media/23696536/content/dc-metro/rg-026/585454/0002/Bear-b360/Bear-b360_0330.JPG

Quote
Mid. to 9 a.m.
12:40, Seaman Carl Fredrik Anderson died suddenly on board; cause unknown.

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9 a.m. to 4 p.m.
10:00, Deceased Seaman Carl Fredrik Anderson's body taken ashore to the Jesse Lee Home where ship's doctor performed autopsy - discovered he died of angina pectoris. Notified Headquarters and Navy Department of death of Seaman Anderson, by radio, also his mother - next of kin, in Sweden, enclosing list of personal effects of the deceased. Preparations made for interment of body in Unalaska.

R.I.P Seaman Anderson

June 3

https://catalog.archives.gov/OpaAPI/media/23696536/content/dc-metro/rg-026/585454/0002/Bear-b360/Bear-b360_0332.JPG

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9 a.m. to 4 p.m.
Inventoried personal effects of Seaman C.F. Anderson, deceased, and took charge of $179.08, and placed it in ship's safe. 2:30, Buried the remains of Seaman Carl Fredrik Anderson, deceased, with military honors at the cemetery of Unalaska, Alaska.
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Post by: Hurlock on 09 August 2019, 02:28:08
Northland September 8th 1927, Unalaska
https://catalog.archives.gov/OpaAPI/media/7329654/content/arcmedia/dc-metro/rg-026/585454-noaa/159a/northland/b1708/26-159a-northland-b1708_050.jpg

A wreath was placed upon the grave of Bert Rankin, a former seaman of the U.S.R.C. "Rush", the wreath having been presented by his mother.
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Post by: AvastMH on 09 August 2019, 07:51:57
RIP Bert Rankin, former seaman of the USRC 'Rush'
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Post by: Pommy Stuart on 04 September 2019, 17:01:40
https://archive.org/details/lucretiasteambar00lucr/page/120 (https://archive.org/details/lucretiasteambar00lucr/page/120)

Frils Folemann [? spelling] departed this world at 2PM, was buried at 8:30AM Performed the solum duty to our ship mate.
At 8:30 All Hands was called to attend the burial of a departed ship mate. Service by Capt Helley.
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Post by: AvastMH on 04 September 2019, 18:12:21
https://archive.org/details/lucretiasteambar00lucr/page/120 (https://archive.org/details/lucretiasteambar00lucr/page/120)

Frils Folemann [? spelling] departed this world at 2PM, was buried at 8:30AM Performed the solum duty to our ship mate.
At 8:30 All Hands was called to attend the burial of a departed ship mate. Service by Capt Helley.

I can help, it is Frits Folemann. (The Captain is Edward Kelley.)
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Post by: Pommy Stuart on 04 September 2019, 21:21:58
 ;)
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Post by: AvastMH on 13 September 2019, 16:29:44
North Star 1881-1882 (Section A)

August 23rd 1881 (https://archive.org/details/northstarsteamba00nort/page/5)

(https://imgur.com/6w24LC8.png)

Thuesday Aug 23rd 1881
At 10.45. by first Part Charles E. Robertson 5th mate fell from the top of the House to the Main Deck striking On his head an Shoulders Receiving Injuries from which he died in 10 hours Expiring at 9.30 of the Latter Part he never after received his fall which is supposed was caused by a Fainting Fit as no one saw him fall, but heard him strike the Deck Used Every available means but could not restor Conciousness quit all work and Prepared the Corpse for Burial made a        Of his Effects and Stowed them away

Wednesday Aug 24th
at 4 P.M. of First Part Backed the main yard set the Colors half mast. Read the Burial at Sea and Commited the Remains if our Deceased Brother to the deep. Lat 33.21 N. Long 44.9 W. (Mid North Atlantic Ocean)

Rest In Peace Charles E Robertson
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Post by: CATPerreault on 08 October 2019, 13:13:08
Lucretia 1883 Section B

Wednesday April 9th 1883

https://archive.org/details/lucretiasteambar00lucr/page/187 (https://archive.org/details/lucretiasteambar00lucr/page/187)

0720    Mr Randal died
1600    hauled aback set the colors at half mast held servises and commited him to the deep

Rest In Peace Mr. Randal
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Post by: AvastMH on 12 October 2019, 16:18:34
I was drifting through the Panoptes Forum which covered OWWhaling phase 1 and found this entry of a death which I did not post over here at the time sadly:

Saturday 12th May 1906. (https://static.zooniverse.org/whaling-data.oldweather.org/subjects/logbookofwilliam00will_0022.jpg) The William Baylies:

(https://imgur.com/cACMkql.png)

'Ned LeClare died between 4. and 5 A.M. Was singing whistling and talking most of the night, but called for and drank lots of water. At times talked quite rational, but most of the time raving. Has not complained of being sick, and ate as much as two ordinary men all the time he has been confined. Bowels regular. A "Dope" fiend I think and used all he had and then went crazy.
Buried him at 1.30 P.M.
Left nothing to amount to any thing and his clothes mostly cut to pieces
Was continuously on the move.'

Well - that was one of the saddest entries I ever read. 😢 😢 😢

RIP Ned LeClare, after such a hard and terribly blighted life.

Just goes to show what a refuge even that hard life of a Whaler was to those on the edge of society.
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Post by: Randi on 12 October 2019, 16:40:22
I'm curious what a doctor would make of those symptoms.

Rest In Peace
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Post by: AvastMH on 12 October 2019, 18:40:32
Me too Randi. A few of the deaths we've had have felt quite frustrating because modern medicine would have sorted the problems out.  :-\
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Post by: adflora on 24 October 2019, 14:43:22
Log journal of Northland March 13, 1928 records crewmember's death as follows:

9:30[AM] received radiogram from California Division stating that Ralph O. Salling Yeo. 2c. had died of pneumonia at 9:00, P.M. March 12, 1938 at the U.S. Public Health Hospital No 19. The Commanding Officer detailed Ensign (T) A. J. Maclean to superintend the preparations for burial, in accordance with Article 2181-4 Regulations.
10:30[AM] the Commanding Officer attended a conference held in the office of the Commandant of the navy yard.
12:20[PM] Ensign (T) A. J. Maclean left the vessel to superintend funeral arrangements of Ralph O. Salling, Yeo. 2c.

Log journal dated March 15, 1928 noted:
3:55[PM] Ensign (T.) A. J. Maclean returned aboard having completed his duties in superintending the funeral of Ralph O. Sallings Yeo. 2c

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Post by: Michael on 24 October 2019, 14:57:03
 :( :( :(
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Post by: AvastMH on 24 October 2019, 17:43:08
That's sad :(

RIP Ralph O. Salling
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Post by: Randi on 24 October 2019, 21:13:43
RIP Ralph O. Salling
Thank you Ensign (T) A. J. Maclean



Much to my surprise, he is mentioned in http://www.interment.net/data/us/ca/sanfran/sfnat/san-francisco-national-cemetery-records-sa-se.htm ;D
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Post by: Randi on 29 October 2019, 09:53:44
'Ned LeClare died between 4. and 5 A.M. Was singing whistling and talking most of the night, but called for and drank lots of water. At times talked quite rational, but most of the time raving. Has not complained of being sick, and ate as much as two ordinary men all the time he has been confined. Bowels regular. A "Dope" fiend I think and used all he had and then went crazy.

Libel!

I discovered that the son of a friend of a friend is a doctor, so I asked him ;D

Quote
... pretty sure ... that the guy died of diabetic ketoacidosis.  The clues are that:

1) he drank so much water

2) had a huge appetite

3) he felt good/wasn?t feeling sick

4) his bowels were normal.

If he were a drug addict experiencing opiate withdrawal he would have had gastrointestinal symptoms and he would have felt terrible. Asking for lots of water and eating a lot are major symptoms of diabetes out of control. A patient in that condition will die quickly and suddenly.
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Post by: Michael on 29 October 2019, 10:20:44
 8)
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Post by: AvastMH on 29 October 2019, 15:17:18
Oh Randi - thank you so much for that. Strangely it was something that I talked about yesterday. We couldn't work it out to be drugs. Of course the smell of ketoacidosis on his breath would have been noticeable. These days we say it smells like pear drops. Darn - poor man. That makes me feel just as sad for him.  :'(
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Post by: Michael on 31 October 2019, 15:17:33
14 July, 1932 (https://catalog.archives.gov/OpaAPI/media/7284528/content/arcmedia/dc-metro/rg-026/585454-noaa/159a/northland/b1718/26-159a-northland-b1718_023.jpg)

Shishmaref

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At 4:15 medical officer stated that Marion Ovakiak had died at 3:16 AM this date in vessel's hospital from chronic pan-sino-pyremia,  acute septic pneumonia, acute cardiac dilation.

1:04PM Body of Marion Ovakiak sent ashore in casket.
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Post by: ggordon on 04 February 2020, 19:52:14
The Northland received sad news out of Nome on August 2, 1935.   :'(

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Received information from Nome that Fernando P. Jackson (105-261) Y. 2c passed away at 9:00 AM this date.

https://catalog.archives.gov/OpaAPI/media/7284534/content/arcmedia/dc-metro/rg-026/585454-noaa/159a/northland/b1724/26-159a-northland-b1724_042.jpg (https://catalog.archives.gov/OpaAPI/media/7284534/content/arcmedia/dc-metro/rg-026/585454-noaa/159a/northland/b1724/26-159a-northland-b1724_042.jpg)

Surgery for appendicitis was performed on Fernando aboard ship a few days earlier while the Northland was en route from St. Lawrence Island to Nome.  He was transferred to the hospital in Nome upon arrival.  A Medical team from the ship stayed with him at the hospital while the Northland made the trip over to St. Michael.
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Post by: Michael on 04 February 2020, 21:46:11
R.I.P. Fernando P. Jackson.
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Post by: Pommy Stuart on 10 February 2020, 18:34:02
Northland 01 Aug 1937.
The ashes of Captain O.C. Parrot of Nova Scotia were scattered in the Bearing Straits in accordance with request from Bellinghaw?, Washington.
https://catalog.archives.gov/OpaAPI/media/7284538/content/arcmedia/dc-metro/rg-026/585454-noaa/159a/northland/b1728/26-159a-northland-b1728_054.jpg (https://catalog.archives.gov/OpaAPI/media/7284538/content/arcmedia/dc-metro/rg-026/585454-noaa/159a/northland/b1728/26-159a-northland-b1728_054.jpg)

Location adjacent to Oceanographic station #171. Lat 66 58N, Long 167 18W, in 22 fathoms
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Post by: Michael on 10 February 2020, 19:10:14
Bellingham.  ;)
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Post by: Randi on 23 March 2020, 10:05:58
Quote from: glvmi78
I was researching ships that my grandfather Louis A. Larsen served on during his time at sea, from 1898-1906. I was going to post the attached to the forum on the United States Revenue Cutter Service ship Bear, if there was any interest. I found a log entry from the Bear dated Tuesday, September 26th 1905, "Record of miscellaneous events of the day" noting that the crew was 'omitted quarters and drills on account of digging grave and preparing for funeral of A.R. Johanson, i've attached a copy of a picture of my grandfather standing next to the freshly dug grave of his shipmate.

https://catalog.archives.gov/OpaAPI/media/6919240/content/arcmedia/dc-metro/rg-026/585454-noaa/bear/vol093/26-159A-bear-vol093_092.jpg

(https://i.imgur.com/XgbCsJ7.jpg)
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Post by: studentforever on 23 March 2020, 10:23:59
At 11am on May 12th 1845 the body of Charles Henderson, Captain's Cook, was sent ashore for burial in Porto Praya from the USS Jamestown.

http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Jamestown/vol001of067/vol001of067_083_1.jpg

At 1.50pm on May 12 1845 Frederick A Stymets, landsman, departed this life.
At 9.30am on May 13 1845 his body was sent from USS Jamestown for interment ashore at Porto Praya

http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Jamestown/vol001of067/vol001of067_084_0.jpg

RIP Charles Henderson., Frederick A Stymets

[Note: the ship's logs start the day at noon of the previous day going to noon of the day whose date is given in the log..]
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Post by: Randi on 23 March 2020, 12:52:41
The nautical day started at noon on the previous (conventional) day and ran to noon on the next day - so Nautical 21st Oct ran from Noon on the (civil) 20th to Noon on the civil 21st. Nautical days are standard in older ships logbooks (at least from the UK). The Admiralty abolished it in 1805 so I'm surprised to see it in these logs. It was usual to switch back to the civil day when in port, but the older logbooks I've looked at so far don't have data while in port so I've never before seen a logbook where they are actually doing the transition. [philip.brohan]
More at https://www.omnilexica.com/?q=nautical+time
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Post by: studentforever on 02 April 2020, 02:05:06
On 6th June 1845 the effects of Fred K Stemel were auctioned on board US Jamestown. There was no record of his death or burial unless the Fred K Stemel and the Frederick A Stymets who died on May 12 refer to the same person

http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Jamestown/vol001of067/vol001of067_096_0.jpg

RIP Fred K Stemel
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Post by: AvastMH on 02 April 2020, 08:20:23
Quote from: glvmi78
I was researching ships that my grandfather Louis A. Larsen served on during his time at sea, from 1898-1906. I was going to post the attached to the forum on the United States Revenue Cutter Service ship Bear, if there was any interest. I found a log entry from the Bear dated Tuesday, September 26th 1905, "Record of miscellaneous events of the day" noting that the crew was 'omitted quarters and drills on account of digging grave and preparing for funeral of A.R. Johanson, i've attached a copy of a picture of my grandfather standing next to the freshly dug grave of his shipmate.

https://catalog.archives.gov/OpaAPI/media/6919240/content/arcmedia/dc-metro/rg-026/585454-noaa/bear/vol093/26-159A-bear-vol093_092.jpg

(https://i.imgur.com/XgbCsJ7.jpg)

What a touching picture. It's lovely to be able to see it. :)