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Add your questions and comments to this topic.
If you need help transcribing see:
Albatross -- Reference: Transcription Example and Log Description (http://forum.oldweather.org/index.php?topic=3901.0)
Guides for US logs: drawing entry boxes, transcribing and editing (http://forum.oldweather.org/index.php?topic=3078.0)
Getting Your Sea Legs (http://forum.oldweather.org/index.php?board=4.0)
The Logs and FAQ (http://forum.oldweather.org/index.php?board=7.0)
Handwriting Help (http://forum.oldweather.org/index.php?board=8.0)
Technical Support (http://forum.oldweather.org/index.php?board=14.0)
If you are interested in the names of crew members see:
Albatross (1900) -- Crew Lists (http://forum.oldweather.org/index.php?topic=3963.0)
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Example of what a weather page might look like when transcribing a line of data:
Page link (http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Albatross/vol036of055/vol036of055_006_0.jpg)
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-EhuQX7SrzAM/Ujf-jZktovI/AAAAAAAAPIw/oxbDzaCOtmM/s576/albatross%25201900%2520weather.JPG?gl=GB)
Thanks, Caro!
Some people find it easier to work with shorter boxes.
This is equally correct. Just don't forget to fill in the Hours field!
(http://img855.imageshack.us/img855/9208/bbn3.jpg)
Thanks, Pommy Stuart!
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Just had a look at Albatross 1900 and got stuck on the 7am line (same 4pm). What are the cloud letters.
From misc page letters are the same as fr cu. ??
Would you say 8am is cu n, if so do I enter cu n or the drop down Cum-Nim?
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Albatross/vol036of055/vol036of055_006_0.jpg
(http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Albatross/vol036of055/vol036of055_006_0.jpg)
I will do a few more pages to see if there are any more problem letters.
I ran across the fr on Yorktown - Caro found Fractus:
http://forum.oldweather.org/index.php?topic=3829.msg52737#msg52737
http://forum.oldweather.org/index.php?topic=3255.msg52893#msg52893
(It would probably be best to transcribe that as fr cu.)
You can enter either cu n or the drop down Cum-Nim.
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Take care with the cloud entries, the rest is reasonably easy with short Misc entries.
Enjoy.
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"Armament" (http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Albatross/vol036of055/vol036of055_005_0.jpg)
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Very clearly, life in Alaskan waters became more peaceful, and the
civilized harbors with ships' stores more numerous, removing the need
for defense and for hunting. :)
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I have never seen as many Alto cloud entries as on this ship.
Cannot remember Alto clouds in 4 years on the Concord.
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Maps:
Modern map with Guam pinpointed (http://mapcarta.com/Guam)
Modern map with Yokohama pinpointed (http://mapcarta.com/Yokohama)
David Rumsey Historical Map Collection: Japan.
1895
(http://www.davidrumsey.com/luna/servlet/detail/RUMSEY~8~1~31743~1150659:Japan---with--Liu-Kiu-Is---with--Bo?sort=Pub_List_No_InitialSort%2CPub_Date%2CPub_List_No%2CSeries_No&qvq=w4s:/when/1895;q:Japan;sort:Pub_List_No_InitialSort%2CPub_Date%2CPub_List_No%2CSeries_No;lc:RUMSEY~8~1&mi=1&trs=2)
David Rumsey Historical Map Collection: China (East) and Korea. Japan.
1900
(http://www.davidrumsey.com/luna/servlet/detail/RUMSEY~8~1~253854~5519247:China--East--and-Korea--Scale-1--7,?sort=Pub_List_No_InitialSort%2CPub_Date%2CPub_List_No%2CSeries_No&qvq=w4s:/when/1900;q:Japan;sort:Pub_List_No_InitialSort%2CPub_Date%2CPub_List_No%2CSeries_No;lc:RUMSEY~8~1&mi=1&trs=2)
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Cross referencing with Patterson :)
The Patterson gets around.
We met up with the Albatross today (July 28, 1914)
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USCS%20Patterson/Book%2016/IMG_6601_1.jpg
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haberley, mitchrob97, and stuart.lynn
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Woohoo! ;D
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Looks like you found your own ship, Punx. :D
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bizob
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Looks like you found your own ship, Punx. :D
Now if we could just get that boiler fixed so we can get out of Yokohama, everything will be great! ^_^
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If you do a google search on "albatross fish commission boiler", you will find quite a few results ::)
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Here's an interesting event that doesn't really belong in the crew thread:
March 24th, 1900:
"Five officers went ashore to represent this vessel at the funeral services of Mr. Gowey, late U.S. Consul General at Yokohama."
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Albatross/vol036of055/vol036of055_029_1.jpg
After a little digging, I found his obit:
http://image2.findagrave.com/photos/2012/165/91371118_133972427502.jpg
Kind of interesting the things you find out. :)
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Yup ;D
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Katecc and klmasters
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Here's an interesting event that doesn't really belong in the crew thread:
March 24th, 1900:
"Five officers went ashore to represent this vessel at the funeral services of Mr. Gowey, late U.S. Consul General at Yokohama."
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Albatross/vol036of055/vol036of055_029_1.jpg
After a little digging, I found his obit:
http://image2.findagrave.com/photos/2012/165/91371118_133972427502.jpg
Kind of interesting the things you find out. :)
Nice to see that you are enjoying OW! This project is stacked full of interesting finds...keep on sharing them!
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That was fast!
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Heh, winter break just started. I may have gotten carried away...
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maricari
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I too am taking advantage of winter break. Can't promise to keep this pace up once school starts up again :P
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Do what you can. Everyone's little somethings add up to a very big deal. :)
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Just
as a note, I just ran into the same trouble rbertin1068 reported above
for the Perry. I've been on the Albatross(1900) and when I hit "finished
with this page" the website moves me to the Jamestown. If I try to
return to the Albatross I get the same page I just finished!
I have
no issue moving to the Jamestown or another ship until I can get to
another page, just thought I should mention it. (And I'm a bit
disappointed with the website booting me off the ship after only four
pages. :-\)
I see that you managed to do another weather page. ;D
Are you still seeing the above problem? Please keep us posted (here or via PMs) so that we can update the programming team.
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I think I'm seeing a pattern in the glitching, but I'm going to go a
few more rounds and see if I'm right. I'll keep you all posted!
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Thank you - patterns are very helpful!
The getting pages you have already done seems to be fixed, but we may have had another case of someone getting shifted to another ship after clicking "I've finished with thus page".
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Anyone else seen 8th April 1900?
There is a note of a Russian
man-of-war anchoring outside the breakwater. The name is Admiral - then
something that I originally thought was Domiloff. A search of Wikipedia
reveals an Admiral Kornilov, which was served at the Far East at the
time, which works for the start (Domi/Korni looks similar), reckon it is
a misspelling on the part of the log-keeper?
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Here is the link: http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Albatross/vol036of055/vol036of055_044_1.jpg
See Posting Links and Images (A Guide) (http://forum.oldweather.org/index.php?topic=536.0).
You
may also find How to look at log pages before and after the one you are
working on
(http://forum.oldweather.org/index.php?topic=3489.msg62863#msg62863)
helpful.
http://www.battleships-cruisers.co.uk/russian.htm is often handy - but I am not having much luck this time.
It could be Korniloff http://www.battleships-cruisers.co.uk/admiral_kornilov.htm
There is a line that blends into B of Brooklyn, but could be the upper arm of a K
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BINGO!
http://books.google.fr/books?id=appCuwuOZ-IC&pg=PA126&lpg=PA126&dq=admiral+Korniloff&source=bl&ots=qgY0iSqi0P&sig=pG1_ZzNlyfVjHD4lJn98xSEm7J8&hl=en&sa=X&ei=w5TGUobiHanB0gXJxYGQDw&ved=0CEQQ6AEwBw#v=onepage&q=admiral%20Korniloff&f=false
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Well there you go! Thanks Randi, I'll change it once I'm done with page I'm currently on!
Ignore that, I did put Korniloff...
Description matches Wikipedia entry for Kornilov too.
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About that pattern I mentioned...nonexistent now.
Before it
seemed to glitch every time I completed two pages, but in the last
couple days I've gone past that with no trouble at all. Yaaaay! Looks
like it's fixed.
Incidentally, I picked the Albatross because it
had a small crew and not much done, and had no idea where the ship was
when I started. And then it turns out to be anchored in Japan, and here
I've been studying Japanese for years! I feel an extra bit of fondness
for the ship now :)
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Yes, it is amazing how Old Weather ties into everyday life!
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Witgren
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Albatross got back to Yokohama on April 28th, 1900, after some
drydock time in Uraga Harbor, and catalogued a number of ships in
Yokohama Harbor, here is part of the log entry --
"Found at
anchor in Yokohama Bay U.S.S. Brooklyn, U.S.F.S. Baltimore, U.S.F.S.
Newark, U.S.F.S. Oregon, U.S.S. Yosemite, U.S.S. Concord. H.B.M.S
Centurion (flag) H.B.M.S. Barfleur (flag), H.B.M.S. Alacrity; Italian
cruiser Calabna, German gunboat Jaguar. On conning out of Uraga Harbor
passed French flagship D'Entrecastaeu; U.S. Mail Stmr. China sailed for
San Francisco shortly after noon [...]"
For anyone interested in
why this collection of warships is sitting in Yokohama, the Boxer
Rebellion was in full swing by 1900 in China and these ships were part
of a multinational force (though mostly American) sent for the purpose
of evacuating European and American nationals, though I've found that
some of these ships also actually participated in offshore shelling and
other actions in direct support of putting down the rebellion.
The
"Italian Cruiser Calabna" appears likely be a misspelling or misreading
of the "Calabria", which I've found was an Italian torpedo cruiser
launched in 1894. Otherwise, I can't find any references to ships
by the name of "Calabna" anywhere.
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Sounds like you are getting into interesting times, Witgren. :)
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http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Albatross/vol036of055/vol036of055_064_1.jpg
(it
is helpful to include a link to the page ;) - Posting Links and Images
(A Guide) (http://forum.oldweather.org/index.php?topic=536.0)
I
think the log book does say Calabria. At least, the r seems fairly
clear. The i is less obvious - especially since he doesn't usually dot
his i's.
Glad you are digging these interesting bits out!
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Curious about the USFS designation for Baltimore, Oregon and Newark.
I think these are Navy warships (see
http://www.history.navy.mil/danfs/b1/baltimore-iv.htm which places
Baltimore on the Asiatic station in 1900). My suspicion is the
log-keeper was so used to writing USFS that he couldn't help it.
Albatross
got back to Yokohama on April 28th, 1900, after some drydock time in
Uraga Harbor, and catalogued a number of ships in Yokohama Harbor, here
is part of the log entry --
"Found at anchor in Yokohama Bay
U.S.S. Brooklyn, U.S.F.S. Baltimore, U.S.F.S. Newark, U.S.F.S. Oregon,
U.S.S. Yosemite, U.S.S. Concord. H.B.M.S Centurion (flag) H.B.M.S.
Barfleur (flag), H.B.M.S. Alacrity; Italian cruiser Calabna, German
gunboat Jaguar. On conning out of Uraga Harbor passed French flagship
D'Entrecastaeu; U.S. Mail Stmr. China sailed for San Francisco shortly
after noon [...]"
For anyone interested in why this collection of
warships is sitting in Yokohama, the Boxer Rebellion was in full swing
by 1900 in China and these ships were part of a multinational force
(though mostly American) sent for the purpose of evacuating European and
American nationals, though I've found that some of these ships also
actually participated in offshore shelling and other actions in direct
support of putting down the rebellion.
The "Italian Cruiser
Calabna" appears likely be a misspelling or misreading of the
"Calabria", which I've found was an Italian torpedo cruiser launched in
1894. Otherwise, I can't find any references to ships by the name
of "Calabna" anywhere.
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I'm looking at the handwriting
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Albatross/vol036of055/vol036of055_064_1.jpg
. Kevin is right, USS Baltimore
(http://www.history.navy.mil/photos/sh-usn/usnsh-b/c3-cm1.htm) is a
cruiser and always a war ship.
The log keeper has a lot of
different ways of writing 'S', the "USFS Baltimore" starts with 4
differently shaped letters. I have no idea why any 4th letter
should be inserted.
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I think I have an explanation -- all three are flagships
(hence the designation USFS). If you look at the log entry, near
the bottom it notes that "at 5:25 the Baltimore and Newark shifted to
the blue and red rear-admiral's flags, respectively".
So right there is notation that the Baltimore and Newark were each serving as flagships for rear admirals.
An
explanation of the flag colors (apparently a discontinued naval
practice) and an example of a red flag can be found here:
http://navalwarcollegemuseum.blogspot.com/2012/10/artifact-spotlight-red-admiral-flag-1940.html
"During
the early 1900s, the blue flag officer's flag was reserved for the most
senior officer present at a particular duty station. All other flag
officers used the red flag. The tiered flag system was discontinued in
about 1940."
I'd already come across reference to Rear Admiral
Kempff, commander of the Asiatic Fleet at this time, being present in
the fleet (and coming on board the Albatross the same day his son
Clarence received his official promotion to ensign). In doing a
bit more digging I've also found a reference noting that Rear Admiral
Bowman H. McCalla commanded the Newark during the Boxer Rebellion
period, so presumably he's there in Yokohama Harbor too.
So
Kempff as senior flag officer in the fleet raised the blue flag on his
flaghip, the Baltimore, while McCalla raised the red one denoting his
subordinate status on the Newark.
I haven't found out what flag
officer was on board the Oregon, but the Oregon was Dewey's flagship
during the Spanish-American War, so maybe the designation just stuck for
that ship due to its fame. Or there's a third flag officer around
and I just haven't found out who, yet, either is possible. Or
there is just an error on the log on that one. ;D
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That explanation makes sense to me.
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That makes lots of sense - thanks, Witgren. I looked up what the Oregon was doing in 1900.
DANFS http://www.history.navy.mil/danfs/o3/oregon-ii.htm
In
cooperating with the Army during the Philippine insurrection, the
battleship performed blockade duty in Manila Bay and off Lingayen Gulf,
served as a station ship, and aided in the capture of Vigan.
Departing Cavite 13 February 1900, Oregon cruised in Japanese waters until May when she went to Hong Kong.
She was the station ship, but I can't find any flag officer listed as having her as his flagship.
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I guess I forgot about the Baltimore, too...
Follow up, think I have answers regarding USFS Baltimore and USFS Oregon...
In
April 1900, Rear Admiral John C. Watson relinquished command of the
Asiatic Squadron, and switched his flag to the Baltimore for the return
trip to the US. His replacement was Rear Admiral George C. Remey,
but until Remey arrived, the Asiatic Station was under command of
Captain G.F.F. Wilde, Captain of the Oregon. It gets a bit
confusing, because Kempff was apparently "Senior Squadron Commander"
while Watson had been the "Commander, Asiatic Station/Squadron", and I think
what we're seeing is Kempff raising his flag as the new senior
commander on the scene once Watson formally relinquishes his
command. I'm betting the Baltimore heads for home shortly. I
am wondering if Captain Wilde was perhaps granted flag status while he
was interim commander of the station, and that is why the Oregon is
reported as "USFS" as well.
I guess the whole take-away is that there is a whole lot of high brass in that harbor. :o
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I'm guessing with that many ships around, "senior officer" becomes
acting commodore even if he doesn't wear that uniform. It explains
everything. :)
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Ship prefixes were standardized in 1907:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Ship, but Witgren is correct
about the usage here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ship_prefix (page
down into the US section). An impressive deduction!
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keithpotz
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Posting a link here to some information I posted on a Dr. H.F.
Moore, a naturalist on board the Albatross, and a report he submitted on
the activities of the Albatross in late 1899 and early 1900:
http://forum.oldweather.org/index.php?topic=3963.msg82419#msg82419
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At risk of distracting anyone interested in what else besides weather got written down on the Albatross:
http://www.mnh.si.edu/rc/fieldbooks/
http://siarchives.si.edu/sites/default/files/pdfs/collections/007184/SIA_007184_B05_F03_optimized.pdf
As
you might notice, the value of the field books is enhanced
significantly by the work OW is doing with the deck logs. Many of the
field book pages only have the date, log reading, and station number
recorded. I saw mostly depth soundings in the pages around 27 June 1900,
but who knows what else might be out there.
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Thanks, Kevin!
Is there something specific about the Albatross in/from the first link (http://www.mnh.si.edu/rc/fieldbooks/)?
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I think this is a completely different archive than where we got our
ship logs. The ship logs are kept in the National Archives along
with military logs. These were pure science and are kept in the
archives of the Smithsonian.
At the least, if we can put links to
all these field logs at the start of our edited transcriptions, or
better if the National Archives can cross-reference the exact link for
the relevant field logs whenever they put scans online, any number of
scientists can open both in 2 windows and read them together.
That's the bare minimum, but it is far more than anyone has now.
Additional field logs
(http://collections.si.edu/search/results.htm?q=unit_code%3AFBR&dsort=&view=&date.slider=&fq=online_visual_material%3Atrue&start=300)
are at the Smithonian; just click on the pink "electronic resource" by
each listing to read it online. (Thanks, Kevin.)
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At risk of distracting anyone interested in what else besides weather got written down on the Albatross:
http://www.mnh.si.edu/rc/fieldbooks/
http://siarchives.si.edu/sites/default/files/pdfs/collections/007184/SIA_007184_B05_F03_optimized.pdf
As
you might notice, the value of the field books is enhanced
significantly by the work OW is doing with the deck logs. Many of the
field book pages only have the date, log reading, and station number
recorded. I saw mostly depth soundings in the pages around 27 June 1900,
but who knows what else might be out there.
Oh, my....
Good stuff at those links. Distraction appreciated! ;D
Doing
just a search of "Albatross" on the main page brings up (among the
unrelated items) some photos of the ship circa 1900 also, rather
interesting to look at. Some interesting details just in the photo
notes, for example, from the photo of the midships:
View
of the midship portion of the ship The Albatross. The Albatross is the
first example of Edison's electricity on a ship. Several rescue boats
are seen secured on either side of the ship. Smithsonian Institution
scientists traveled aboard the Albatross on scientific expeditions. The
ship has a fully functioning science lab
I can't seem to get links to the full-size photos, but here are some thumbnails of the exterior and interior of the ship:
Midship:
(http://ids.si.edu/ids/deliveryService?max=120&id=http://sirismm.si.edu/siahistory/imagedb/SIA2009-2272.jpg)
Foreship:
(http://ids.si.edu/ids/deliveryService?max=120&id=http://sirismm.si.edu/siahistory/imagedb/SIA2009-3220.jpg)
Interior Science Room:
(http://ids.si.edu/ids/deliveryService?max=120&id=http://sirismm.si.edu/siahistory/imagedb/SIA2009-2269.jpg)
Mess Room:
(http://ids.si.edu/ids/deliveryService?max=120&id=http://sirismm.si.edu/siahistory/imagedb/SIA2009-3218.jpg)
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Have you checked out Links to further info about the ship
under Albatross -- Reference: Transcription Example and Log Description
(http://forum.oldweather.org/index.php?topic=3901.msg70620#msg70620)?
;)
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Ooooh, no I hadn't, Randi.... I'm off to do some reading now! ;)
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There are also 2600 photos taken of/on the Albatross (and many of
the revenue cutters, officers and men) in the still pictures branch of
the National Archives and in the Anchorage regional branch. If someone
happens to be in the DC area or Anchorage and would like to experience a
different sort of action on OW send me a PM.
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Found this in the narrative log for May 24, 1900 --
At 8:00 dressed ship rainbow fashion in honor of the Birthday of Queen Victoria.
But was there cake? ;)
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I never heard it worded like that, the Royal Navy always said,
"Dressed overall" - in other words, their masts decorated with every
banner and flag they own. The picture below shows a ship dressed
overall and also with its yards manned. The manner of stringing
the flags from bow to stern is strictly dictated by the navies.
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-InZ7-ggNJaY/UvQm9BloeqI/AAAAAAAADPw/8sVU5BGMQqE/w645-h366-no/ship+dressed+overall+yards+manned.jpg)
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http://navyaviation.tpub.com/14243/css/14243_201.htm AND http://www.ushistory.org/betsy/images/ntp13b.pdf
DRESSING AND FULL-DRESSING SHIP mentions rainbow
ahem...
Only clean flags should be used in full-dressing ship.
Flags
should be stopped to the dressing lines the day before the ship is to
be full-dressed, otherwise something unforeseen might develop and the
dressing lines would not be ready for hoisting at 0800.
added to OWpedia ;)
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This question's been nagging the back of my mind for a bit, but I
couldn't recall the log date, but it seems important given the ultimate
goal of OW with getting good weather data. I've finally taken the
time to go back and find the entry.
On May 9, 1900, the narrative log notes that "The Navigator set the aneroid barometer back .11"
That seems like a potentially important item to report as it affects the barometric pressure reporting.
So
I guess my question is how should reports like this be handled apart
from the usual transcribing of the log entry? I just want to be
sure this gets accounted for appropriately.
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This topic is a good place to put it.
You can also add it to
Barometers, Instrumentation and Specifications by Ship - Phase 3
(http://forum.oldweather.org/index.php?topic=3456.0)
It does help
to include a link to the page (Posting Links and Images (A Guide)
(http://forum.oldweather.org/index.php?topic=536.0))
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What Randi said - Philip really does read this forum for that information.
But
it may also help to put an event comment on the Weather page with that
information. An analyst working with Philip who does not check our
forum would be able to the info that way.
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Ok, Albatross is underway -- question on the location transcription for this page:
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Albatross/vol036of055/vol036of055_099_0.jpg
Given
that a latitude of 139?55' is physically impossible and a longitude of
34?50'40" would put Albatross on the pretty much the opposite side of
the planet from where she was the day before, it's pretty obvious what
happened, (the crew member recording goofed and put the Latitude by Obs.
into the Longitude by Obs. spot, and put the Longitude by Obs. in the
Latitude by D.R. spot). Also, this puts me in the position of
recording one coordinate as Obs. and the other as D.R., but at the same
time, TWYS...
How should I record this one?
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Witgren, I checked all my archives for policy decisions by the PTB,
but came up blank, and Philip is out away from his desk this week.
I do know that when the log keeper forgets which hemisphere he is in
and gets the letter wrong - or forgets to put the letter in at all! - we
go with TWYS.
So I say, do that here too. TWYS,
including all the log keeper's errors and stupidities. The
analysts will figure the problem out as soon as they put it on a
map. ;)
FYI: http://forum.oldweather.org/index.php?topic=3191.msg51629#msg51629
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Decidedly a borderline case. I agree with Janet about TWYS.
I would advise recording the 8am and/or 8pm positions as well.
(Philip only requires one position (ideally noon observed ::)) but more can be helpful - especially in cases like this.)
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lat / Long has no directions attached.
Google thinks we are in Russia when we are in Unalaska.
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Some temps have a + after the number.
I guess it was between degrees.
I am just putting the whole degrees (- the +)
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Would you give a link to an example please?
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pommystuart (Pommy Stuart) passes the 1000 mark!
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Would you give a link to an example please?
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Albatross/vol036of055/vol036of055_164_0.jpg
(http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Albatross/vol036of055/vol036of055_164_0.jpg)
Water temps 3,4,9,10,11,mid
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That is odd - they are all for the water surface temps. I'll ask Philip and Kevin, I've never seen that before.
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This guy seems to like making it difficult for me on the weather codes, ex 6am and 9pm
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Albatross/vol036of055/vol036of055_168_0.jpg
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bcmw ?
and
ocd ?
:-\ :-\ :-\
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Jeannette/vol001of004/vol001_003_1.jpg
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bcmv ? = partly cloudy mist variable?
ocl ? = overcast with clouds lightning?
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bcmu (ugly) or bcmo (partly closed 'o' as at 9pm) ? Going with bcmo & ocd
&
ocd No mention of lightning on the written page and it does not look like a d as in drizzle (light rain is mentioned).
Next page there is a 'd' which is formed like the that one at 9am
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Albatross/vol036of055/vol036of055_169_0.jpg
(http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Albatross/vol036of055/vol036of055_169_0.jpg)
From my copy of the weather codes
b= blue sky
c = clouds detatched
m = mist
v = visibility (very good)
Thanks.
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Could those +'s be some kind of asterisk? That's some handwriting!
Some temps have a + after the number.
I guess it was between degrees.
I am just putting the whole degrees (- the +)
Weather codes: bcw and vch? or och?
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"v = visibility (very good)" is from the RN logs.
"v = variable weather" is from the US logs.
One of the very few they read differently.
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Jeannette/vol001of004/vol001_003_1.jpg
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-L_QsA8Ilhaw/UkM0r3G-_jI/AAAAAAAACAA/lZvc1uoxymk/w496-h411-no/usn_state_of_weather.jpg)
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Will amend my sheet to suit the US.
Thanks.
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Found a + in the dry column.
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I've already PMed for help. :)
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pommystuart (Pommy Stuart) passes the 1500 mark!
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* Piping aboard Captain pommystuart *
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On temporary leave of absence from the Bear, I assume ;D ;)
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Sorry, Jumped ship, but don't tell the Captain. I feel confident I have left it in capable hands.
The
albatross seemed almost dead in the water, so, being that sort of guy I
am, I'm giving it some help. (well I hope it is helping) ;)
P.S. FREE* Rum rations today to new crew members joining me. ,
*from your own bar.
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Sorry, Jumped ship, but don't tell the Captain. I feel confident I have left it in capable hands.
The
albatross seemed almost dead in the water, so, being that sort of guy I
am, I'm giving it some help. (well I hope it is helping) ;)
P.S. FREE* Rum rations today to new crew members joining me. ,
*from your own bar.
You never told me there was rum! All Hanibal94 is giving me on Pioneer is more work!!! :(
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You did note the disclaimer, didn't you?
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kaireky
Welcome to the top 12 !
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Thanks,
as always, for pointing it out. I've no idea why they are doing this,
but maybe a reason will become apparent if they continue.
I'm happy with his choice to leave the '+' out - again, it would be OK either way.
Philip
this is very odd.
Some temps have a + after the number.
I guess it was between degrees.
I am just putting the whole degrees (- the +)
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Albatross/vol036of055/vol036of055_164_0.jpg
3,4,9,10,11,mid
Thanks,
Janet
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First time I have seen this page.
Rough Log Book. (http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Albatross/vol037of055/vol037of055_002_1.jpg)
(and the writing is better than the last one)
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8)
I have heard of rough logs, but this is the first time I have seen that page.
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What a change from the length of the Concord Misc pages.
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Albatross/vol037of055/vol037of055_003_1.jpg
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;D
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I have now had two pages with the letter E used where I would expect a 3 to be.
TWYS (but) or be sensible and put 3 ??
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Albatross/vol037of055/vol037of055_007_0.jpg
(http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Albatross/vol037of055/vol037of055_007_0.jpg)
8PM is an example.
Maybe he is partially displexic. :-\
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I think that has to really be TWYS. BUT... that isn't an
'E', look at the Easterly winds. That is truly a backwards
'3'. I think. Maybe. :P
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I did not really think it was an E, it was just the best way of describing the only way I could type it.
How do I type a backwards 3?
I have put a 3 in the transcript. The boffins can insert the backwards 3.
???
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if you don't have it on your keyboard, guess extravagantly. :)
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Could it be a poorly formed 2 as at mid?
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Albatross/vol037of055/vol037of055_009_0.jpg
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Looking back to page 007 I think that is what it is.
Any ideas what the clouds are at 1AM, A.~
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Albatross/vol037of055/vol037of055_011_0.jpg
(http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Albatross/vol037of055/vol037of055_011_0.jpg)
TIA
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I was just going to say that it looks like a strange 2! ;D
Look at the pressure on the same line and and at 5am
AS (Alto Stratus) - Writing rather than printing - I have seen a lot of S's that look like L's.
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I ended up putting S for A. S. (I was considering L for lenticular but that is a fairly rare cloud.)
Strange that all the S's looked conventional except for that one. He does it again on the next page 'L's" and "S's"
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pommystuart (Pommy Stuart) passes the 2000 mark!
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I assume that as the times 6 & 7 PM are bracketed I enter both so as not to upset the software with an hour missing.
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Albatross/vol037of055/vol037of055_029_0.jpg
(http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Albatross/vol037of055/vol037of055_029_0.jpg)
Correct me if I am wrong.
[times corrected, sorry]
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Wow, what a page! I see 6 and 7 bracketed for wind, a -4 (PM),
horrible handwriting and underlining for the weather and cloud
codes, and decimals in the wind speed column! Did I miss
anything?
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I see from the events page that they set clocks ahead 1 hour at 6pm.
I suspect that that explains the blank line.
I would be inclined to leave the 6pm line out - as they did in the log.
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OK
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Re underlined letters:
Some people substitute a capital letter, some type the words 'underlined' or 'underscored'
after the appropriate letter, some enter a double letter, rr for instance.
Choose one method and stick to it. (If your logkeeper has written all the weather codes
in capitals, choose underlined/underscored or a double letter. ;D)
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I still don't know if some of the q's noted previously are underlined or just written that way.
Will start from now putting a Cap for the underlined letter, EXCEPT for the q's UNLESS you say to do so.
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That sounds fine to me.
I had also wondered if it was a crossbar rather than an underline on those q's. :-\
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I used to do my g's with a bar like that and my q's with the rh side tail flick, that is what is confusing me.
Enough.
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First time I have seen this page.
Rough Log Book. (http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Albatross/vol037of055/vol037of055_002_1.jpg)
(and the writing is better than the last one)
Seems like they have more than one 'Rough Log Book' in the SAME log book.
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Albatross/vol037of055/vol037of055_033_1.jpg
(http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Albatross/vol037of055/vol037of055_033_1.jpg)
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pommystuart (Pommy Stuart) passes the 2500 mark!
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Will one of the MODS please put these posts in the correct list (if needed)
Thanks
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Albatross/vol037of055/vol037of055_051_0.jpg
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http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Albatross/vol037of055/vol037of055_052_0.jpg
(http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Albatross/vol037of055/vol037of055_052_0.jpg)
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Albatross/vol037of055/vol037of055_053_0.jpg
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Report of dry dock work. First one I have seen.
I fixed your links
This format is bad:
http://http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Albatross/vol037of055/vol037of055_053_0.jpg
(http://http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Albatross/vol037of055/vol037of055_053_0.jpg)
You can also do them simply as (you have to quote the post to see the difference ;)):
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Albatross/vol037of055/vol037of055_051_0.jpg
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Albatross/vol037of055/vol037of055_052_0.jpg
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Albatross/vol037of055/vol037of055_053_0.jpg
Copied to American: If you find letters or other misc in the logbooks...
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I am at last starting to find text to match the q with the bar.
They are so far matching moderate squalls.
Bar q will be Cap Q from now on.
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pommystuart (Pommy Stuart) hit the 3000 mark!
dead on!
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;D
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Copied to American: If you find letters or other misc in the logbooks... ?
Randi - Where is American?
I go away for a while and 2 days after I get back on board I have 6 deserters.
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Albatross/vol037of055/vol037of055_083_1.jpg
(http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Albatross/vol037of055/vol037of055_083_1.jpg)
Thank
goodness they left before I got back as I would have developed a
complex about Deserters following me about. ???
Oh Dear, Just realized I was still Captain at the time they left. :-[
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American: If you find letters or other misc in the logbooks... (http://forum.oldweather.org/index.php?topic=3390.0)
Well, maybe now that you are back they will return too ;)
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Long day on the Albatross 13 hrs in the morning.
How do you want it entered?
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Albatross/vol037of055/vol037of055_101_0.jpg
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I'll check with Philip ;D
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I think I have asked this question before but.
Can anybody make a decision as to what I should put for this writers P's and Q's so I can mind my P's and Q's %^)
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Albatross/vol037of055/vol037of055_103_0.jpg
(http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Albatross/vol037of055/vol037of055_103_0.jpg)
7am is definitely bcqg, and 8am is bcmq.
What is
1am bcm~ is it a g or q
I get lots of the letter with the bar on the tail and way back they seemed to be with squall in the text pages.
Now the text pages have little info.
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I'd go for q :-\
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12 & 1/2 hours in the PM
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Albatross/vol037of055/vol037of055_104_0.jpg
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Just guessing, I'd go with the printed hours and ignore the drawn
lines. The 1pm line points to an empty line, and they end up with
12 readings for 12 hours. Whoever drew those lines may have had
dyslexic problems?
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Actually Janet the 1pm drawn line (pointing to the PM row) does have readings from the Temp onwards.
Maybe if I shift only the first 4 hourly readings up, hr, wind, dir and bara the official line at 4 has only the first part.
I will do that and change later if told to do so. This may screw up the three entry matching.
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Follow your own instincts, Stuart. They are good.
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Interesting clouds on one day.
ci
s
a s and n
n
fr n
m cu
fr n
cu
a s
(and that's just in the morning.)
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Albatross/vol037of055/vol037of055_118_0.jpg
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And the winds switched around from NNW force 2 thru calm to SSE force 4.
I've
seen weather like that in the midwest, when fast moving weather comes
thru. My personal name is "changeable skies". It's
fascinating how fast everything up there is in flux.
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I'm still quite baffled by the occasional occurrences of this. You
could get 25 hours in a solar noon to solar noon day if you travelled
far enough westwards. But no ship could sail that fast, and in any event
the Albatross is in port in California on this occasion.
Perhaps
they could be resetting their clocks to match local shore time - but
it's not their first day in port. And it's December 1st, not a likely
time for the clocks to go back.
As we don't know why they are
doing it, I don't know what the right thing to do is, so I suggest just
entering the 13th morning weather event with a blank hour
(essentially TWYS).
Long day on the Albatross 13 hrs in the morning.
How do you want it entered?
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Albatross/vol037of055/vol037of055_101_0.jpg
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Thanks Philip.
I will go back and change the entry.
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Rearing my head for my annual return to OW...
Some crazy cloud codes on this page: http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Albatross/vol036of055/vol036of055_175_0.jpg
There's
one symbol there I'm totally lost on, showing up at 11am and 1pm - the
second code is clearly "Cu", but the first is not "N" or "S" (see 5am),
nor is it "Ci" (see 7am - "Ci Cu + A Cu"), and his letter A is also
distinct (e.g. 7am on this page
(http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Albatross/vol036of055/vol036of055_176_0.jpg),
"A Cu").
However, the cloud types list does include "Fracto-cumulus", and I could believe that the code is "Fr Cu" - thoughts?
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Hi Danny (?)
Glad your back.
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Albatross/vol036of055/vol036of055_175_0.jpg
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I have been entering Fr Cu for the 11am and 1pm entrys.
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Albatross/vol036of055/vol036of055_176_0.jpg
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Your 7am is Alto Cum
I put S Cum for the 10PM entry but not sure if that was correct.
Stuart.
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Danny252
Welcome to the top 12 !
and welcome back to OW !!!
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I have been entering Fr Cu for the 11am and 1pm entrys.
Right, as long as someone else agrees I'm happy to go with that!
I put S Cum for the 10PM entry but not sure if that was correct.
That's a pretty definite S Cu, yes - slightly curvier than usual, but still distinct from anything else I'd say.
Also,
Randi - attached is a typed up day for 1900, which is currently missing
from the examples (we have 1884 and 1908 as the nearest).
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Thanks, Danny.
There are so many variations on the log format
that it is hard to do all of them. Also, we go more by format than by
date. I will add it to the Reference topic.
I think it says:
"pat log reading 80.5."
with a line break in the middle of reading.
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I think it says:
"pat log reading 80.5."
with a line break in the middle of reading.
So
it does - they started breaking up lots of words over two lines on that
day, having never done it before, which was rather confusing.
And
yes, the format is basically identical to 1884 and 1908, but I've
always found an example page of a given logkeeper's handwriting quite
helpful when starting :)
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As long as there is someone (else) crazy enough to do it ;D ;D ;D
I think the 3pm water temperature should be 57 rather than 58?
Decimal
points in the pressure are not wrong, but since we are encouraging TWYS
(Type What You See), I will change them to spaces for the Reference
topic.
DO NOT change anything that you have already done.
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Danny252 passes the 500 mark!
;D
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Correct, it should be 57 - proof that we definitely do need multiple people doing each page!
And
does that mean I should be writing with spaces rather than decimal
points in future? And I definitely wouldn't go back to change 500
entries!
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No Decimal Point in Pressure Reading
Normally
the pressure reading has a decimal point between the integer and
decimal parts. However, you may occasionally simply see four digits.
For example, 29.63 may also be written as 2963.
Philip has asked us to enter it as it is written. He says that his software treats all those variants in the same way.
Dash or Space in Pressure Reading
Normally
the pressure reading has a decimal point between the integer and
decimal parts. However, you may occasionally see a dash or a space
between the integer and decimal parts.
For example, 29.63 may also be written as 29-63, 29 63, or even as 29:63.
Philip has asked us to enter it as it is written. He says that his software treats all those variants in the same way.
Yes, you should use spaces.
I just looked at another page and sometimes it had spaces and sometimes it didn't.
I do my best to follow TWYS, but in cases like that I don't think it is worth agonizing over the distinction.
If my log keeper generally had a space but sometimes seemed to leave the space out I would assume that it was just a small space.
If my log keeper generally had four digits in succession but sometimes seemed to have a space I would assume that it was just a random gap.
;)
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There is often enough uncertainty that we can choose to enter what
is easiest/fastest. ;D My feeling is that if some
prospective future user really wants to know if it's a space or not,
he/she can look at the log page. It won't make any difference to Philip.
I agree that we should not waste time agonizing over minor formatting
issues in cases where the possibilities are tightly constrained.
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Some of you might have noticed occasional references to "Mr Fassett"
in the 1900 voyage. It turns out he became well known in later years as
an expert in salmon fisheries, stemming from his experiences on the
Albatross, and actually has a Wikipedia page which mentions his time on
the ship - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harry_Clifford_Fassett
As
evidenced on that Wiki page, he took photos at a very early date, and
this was such a novel activity that it was actually noted in the log. On
the 26th of August 1900, it is noted that "Mr Fassett went ashore to
take photographs" at the Taku Company Cannery, near Jaw Point, Taku
Inlet.
Whilst looking him up, I also discovered the official
report from the 1900-1901 Alaskan voyage, written by our Commanding
Officer Jefferson F Moser with assistance from Harry Fassett! You'll
surely have noticed the regular visits to canneries, fisheries, and so
on, as well as the various soundings taken, and the report is the
conclusion of these. Even more excitingly, the report includes a large
number of Harry Fassett's photographs, taken on the voyage we're working
on! I believe that there's even one picture that shows the Albatross on
this voyage on Page 16 (Plate VI), at the far left of the photograph,
at an unknown location (though likely in Bristol Bay). The link to the
document is http://fishbull.noaa.gov/21-1/moser.pdf
There are
also numerous charts and the report goes into a large amount of detail
for each location visited. I especially enjoy the chart of Alitak Bay,
p.72, which shows that each officer got a feature named after them:
Mr. Fassett - Point Fassett
Ensign Hepburn - Cape Hepburn
Ensign Kempff - Kempff Bay
Ensign Miller - Miller Island
Cmdr Moser - Moser Bay
Asst Surgeon Pryor - Pryor Island
Lt Rodman - Rodman Reach
There is also Tanner Head and Drake Head, which may reference other people.
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Neat! Thanks a lot!
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Great research, thanks.
will look at it in more detail when I get a chance.
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Danny252 passes the 750 mark!
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250 in a couple of day + all that research now that's what I call coming back in a big way.
%^)
Good work.
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A couple of days off with nothing else can do wonders for getting
work done - I also wanted to get to the conclusion of Mr. Brew's court
martial :P
To be honest, the locations are actually fairly easy
once you start keeping track. If you know the last location and time,
you can limit where the new location is, even more so if the course is
available. Mapcarta.com is awesome too, and I've deciphered many names
just by scrolling around where I think the ship should be and finding a
marker.
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http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Albatross/vol037of055/vol037of055_007_0.jpg
At
2/3 (and maybe 1 and 4) am, there is what I *think* is a correction to
the wind direction - the ditto marks are overwritten with "South
Easterly". However, I've equally seen winds written as "Var" in the log
described more precisely in the written part, so that might be what's
going on here.
This is presumably a one off, and the official
advice is likely "write what you think is best", but perhaps worth
noting for the science team anyway.
(I went with "SE" for 2/3am, and all other hours were done as normal)
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That sounds good - with the note about it here.
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The Captaincy is up for grabs as I have
gone back to the Concord and will only be doing a few entries here when I
get bored with the Concord being in the same port.
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As well as trying to follow the Albatross in the place names thread, you can now join me in floating about Alaska by map:
https://www.google.com/maps/ms?msid=212801750336237173873.0004ff21146bca9bf0016&msa=0
The
data points are in chronological order, and each individual day at
anchor currently has a marker (eventually I might combine them). If the
entire day was spent anchored, the time is given as 1200. Note that the
course line is my own estimation - it isn't necessarily the exact course
followed!
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Well done Danny, I am doing a simpler one for the Concord with just the ports and very crude lines between them.
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Very good, Danny, you may be more accurate than the log keeper sometimes. :)
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Danny252 passes the 1000 mark!
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The Google Maps interface I was using to share my course started
complaining that I had too many points, so I've had to switch over to
another! I've amended the original post.
https://www.google.com/maps/ms?msid=212801750336237173873.0004ff21146bca9bf0016&msa=0
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That's why I only put in the ports and crude lines.
I have not mastered the google lite maps and have reverted back to the classic maps.
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I'm recording it all in Google Earth and then exporting to Maps, because I can use GE and it doesn't play silly buggers.
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Danny252 passes the 1500 mark!
Look out, Stuart! ;D
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Our salmon-chasing, stream-exploring, map-creating officer, Lt
Rodman, had a bit of fun on Prince of Wales Island - it's my personal
opinion that he just found a really interesting salmon stream and it took three search parties of sailors to drag him back to the ship:
On
the damp and misty evening of September 23rd, 1900, Lieut Rodman of the
Albatross managed to get separated from his party whilst ashore in an
sparsely inhabited part of Alaska (...as compared to all the other
bits...) - it was lunchtime the next day before he was found!
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Albatross/vol037of055/vol037of055_024_1.jpg
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Albatross/vol037of055/vol037of055_025_1.jpg
Commences and until 9am. Several hunting parties left the ship; Lt Rodman started for Tolstoi Bay.
9am
to midnight. At 8.00 dinghy returned with report from Paymaster that
Lieut Rodman was lost. Put in relief crew as a searching party and sent
dinghy back, with 24 hours provisions.
Commences + until 9am. Waiting news of Lieut Rodman and no word from searching party.
9am
- 4pm. Clear and pleasant. Sent out two search parties for Lt Rodman at
10am and at 1pm Lt Rodman and all hands returned to ship.
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Let's see...
A drunk named Brew: http://forum.oldweather.org/index.php?topic=209.msg91112#msg91112
Floating bales of hay off Horse Shoal: http://forum.oldweather.org/index.php?topic=209.msg91118#msg91118
And now 'Rodman' fishing.
A very, err, interesting ship ::)
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They fully get the joy English takes in word play!!! 8)
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Sadly Seaman Nicholas doesn't fit this lovely pattern - I think we'll just ignore him...
One oddity recently on the 24th Sept 1900 - from 8pm onwards, both the wind force and wind speed
are dittoed. I don't know if the data processing thingy will handle
dittoes in "numerical" columns, although there's no wind force
information to record as there is no wind!
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Albatross/vol037of055/vol037of055_026_0.jpg
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No problem! Philip is used to that. ;D
Just type the "
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One for us transcribers, which has been confusing me for a long time now!
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Albatross/vol037of055/vol037of055_034_0.jpg
At
6am on this day, the first temperature reading looks like it might be
"43-" or "43_", and I've seen this before several times for
temperatures. Knowing that we regularly get plus signs on temps, I've
been wondering if perhaps we get minus signs as well.
However,
after going back a few pages, it turns out the reason is much more
innocent - it's simply a very well placed smudge on the camera! If you
go back and forth through the series, you'll note that this "minus sign"
appears in the same place on every left hand page from September to
December 1900 (all scanned in one go).
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Good detective work!
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http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Albatross/vol037of055/vol037of055_043_1.jpg
Can
anyone place the signature for 0-9? I can say it's not the usual
signature of Ensigns C R Miller, A J Hepburn, or C S Kempff, and Hepburn
is confirmed as being off the ship anyway. The signature is quite rare
and not a regular logkeeper, but it shows up on occasion. My vague
feeling is that it might be H Rodman ("HR") - would a Lieutenant fill in
the log in the absence of an ensign?
(Crew list for reference (http://forum.oldweather.org/index.php?topic=3963.msg73984#msg73984))
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HR makes sense to me, and I have logs where Lieutenants are regular log keepers.
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Lt. Rodman it is then. If only he signed off with his rank, as all the ensigns insist on doing!
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But if you transcribe it, it is HR - TWYS ;)
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Danny252 passes the 2000 mark!
;D
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And he does so "moored to a buoy in Commencement Bay, off Tacoma,
Wash", shrouded in thick banks of fog, as he has done for the better
part of two ship-board weeks now - I want to be chasing salmon again :(
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Apparently my crew heard my complaints, and gave me a multiple page report to transcribe...
Attached
is a report on the condition of the ship and repairs undertaken at the
Puget Sound Dry Dock Company, Quatermaster's Harbor. If you ever wanted
to know about rusty ship bottoms and the intricate details of the paint
used, this is for you!
The report begins on http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Albatross/vol037of055/vol037of055_051_0.jpg
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I'm a bit surprised to find the Albatross coaled twice within three
weeks - once on the 2nd of October, taking 63 tons, and again on the
21st of October taking a further 65 tons. It's even more surprising
given that only about one of those weeks was spent at sea. I honestly
can't imagine the ship using 60 tons in that time, unless the stoker was
throwing two shovels overboard for each that went in the fire!
Can anyone think of a reason why they would coal twice rather than do it all at once?
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Sometimes you don't fill up completely at a gas station when the price is too high.
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A fair point - although by how much the price of coal would have
dropped in such a short period, especially in 1900, I'm not sure. As I'm
sure we all know, gas/petrol prices are quick to rise, but slow to
fall!
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Good point. Sometimes it's just a question of how much time the crew
has to do the work. But 63 tons is not much. The Bear typically loads
about 500 tons in one or two days.
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Yes, I'm pretty sure the Albatross had been going since June/July
without re-coaling, which only adds to my surprise that it visited the
same coal dock (involving a backtrack of 150 miles or so) twice in such a
short period for such small loads.
Edit: the next day's log
states that they coaled an extra 101 tons, so it seems slightly less
pointless now - they were apparently kicked off the coal dock to allow a
British steamer to coal on the first evening, presumably as they were
in more of a hurry than the Albatross!
Another point that's come
to mind is about how much a captain would be authorised to spend on coal
- his superiors may react too kindly if an unexpectedly large coal bill
turned up on their desk, and so the captain might have had to ask for a
bit more pocket money?
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Maybe they were taking the extra coal to someone else?
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Hmm, there was no record of unloading any coal after the first
loading, but I would've thought it would be logbook-worthy. I'll keep an
eye out for anything new this time, but I'm pretty sure we're heading
straight for San Francisco to end our mission.
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How long it takes to load how much coal also depends on the method
available - some ports might have very limited access to mechanical
methods, so will also be doing it by hand.
http://forum.oldweather.org/index.php?topic=1502.msg16436#msg16436
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A fair point - getting 60 tons on board was the better part of one
day's work (although work ceased overnight). That speed is quite slow,
considering what a major operation the coal mines at Union Bay were, so
presumably the Albatross couldn't be coaled as quickly as other ships.
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http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Albatross/vol037of055/vol037of055_104_0.jpg
The
pm weather logs on the 4th of December 1900 are a bit odd - it looks as
if the temperature and cloud data was written in one line too high for a
few hours, and the error noticed at 4/5pm. Obviously I typed what I
saw, but perhaps the science team will want to manipulate what values
are matched with what hours.
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Type what you see sounds good for me - they know they made a mistake.
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It is a gray area.
Weather Data in the Wrong Column (http://forum.oldweather.org/index.php?topic=3191.msg51628#msg51628)
In this case, to avoid losing the data completely, Philip has asked that the entries are put in the correct columns.
This definitely goes to show that if you're not sure how to deal with peculiar log entries, the best thing to do is ask here.
TWYS
is correct, but I believe it would also be correct to move the data -
it does have those lines from the hour to the previous hour probably
indicating a correction.
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On the 17th December 1900, the logkeeper recorded that Mr. F M Chamberlain, Asst, USFC, boarded the vessel.
This
person is Mr. Frederick Morton Chamberlain was a naturalist in the
USFC, and at this date was probably titled "Scientific Assistant". His
obituary in Science (http://www.jstor.org/stable/1646321) states that he
worked on the Albatross several times during his career and made
significant contributions to the knowledge of fisheries and marine line,
although he never gained much fame. A fuller biography can be found
here (http://www.nativefishlab.net/library/textpdf/10344.pdf), including
some photos of Mr. Chamberlain and the Albatross, including one of him
on the ship engaged in scientific research, and another of him
clambering up a tree with his camera to get the best angle he could for a
photograph! Sadly, he was marred throughout his life by illness, and
never fully recovered after collapsing from illness during field work in
Alaska in 1913, with his death following a few years later at the
relatively young age of 53.
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And on a different topic, the logkeepers have recently picked up the
awkward habit of recording foggy conditions with the weather code fogm
at times - rather than being f-o-g-m (fog-overcast-gloomy-mist), I
believe this should actually be interpreted as fog-m (fog-mist). Other
odd codes, such as fogd (fog-drizzle) also appear. This page
(http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Albatross/vol037of055/vol037of055_121_0.jpg)
shows both of those examples, at 1am and 1pm, and also the distinction
between the weather codes fog (cannot see sky) and f (sky visible).
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I'll tell Philip to note this for his analysis team.
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Danny252 passes the 3000 mark!
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Danny252 passes the 4000 mark!
;)
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Something a bit different to crew changes on 22/01/01
(http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Albatross/vol038of055/vol038of055_025_1.jpg):
Half-masted the colors as a mark of respect for Queen Victoria, who died yesterday.
(Interestingly, this was incorrectly recorded and then crossed out on 20/01/01)
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* Piping aboard Captain Danny252 *
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Danny252 passes the 5000 mark!
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* Piping aboard Captain Danny252 *
Do I get a hat?
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The Dry Bulb Temperature at 1pm on this day
(http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Albatross/vol038of055/vol038of055_067_0.jpg)
is quite alarming - 101F (38C) in early March! More suspiciously, the
wet bulb temperature is much lower (so much so that a number of
dry/wet bulb temperature tables don't even include such a combination),
and the Dry Bulb temperature suddenly drops to 79F at 2pm.
Interestingly,
it is noted that the ship turned from facing NW to SW at this point.
I've noted a similar pattern in temperatures occurs on quite a number of
days, with the dry bulb temp rising quite sharply in the late morning
and then dropping again at or around midday.
My suspicion is that
the Dry Bulb thermometer is positioned such that it catches the Sun
just before midday if the ship is facing N/NW whilst docked in Sausalito
Bay, and is therefore giving systematically high readings on sunny days
- probably worth noting when analysing the data.
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A very interesting observation. I'll pass this on to the
climatologists so they know what to look for. Thanks. :)
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This is really interesting - thanks for pointing it out.
There
is a whole research area, in climate science, on understanding what we
call 'exposure bias' in early thermometer observations: The standard
white slatted Stevenson screen
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stevenson_screen
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stevenson_screen) was invented in 1864,
but did not become ubiquitous for almost another century - instead
people used all sorts of ways to shield their thermometers from the sun,
and this caused a variety of, usually subtle, but important biases in
the temperatures they recorded.
I don't know what the Albatross
was doing with her thermometers (if they mention them, please make a
note), but your suspicion is quite plausible. I'm a little surprised to
see it in the Albatross (a research ship) in 1900 (quite late for this
issue). Does it happen everyday (a systematic thermometer exposure
problem) or is this a one-off (perhaps a badly-trained new observer
leaving the screen open)?
This is one instance where having hourly observations is really useful.
The
Dry Bulb Temperature at 1pm on this day
(http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Albatross/vol038of055/vol038of055_067_0.jpg)
is quite alarming - 101F (38C) in early March! More suspiciously, the
wet bulb temperature is much lower (so much so that a number of
dry/wet bulb temperature tables don't even include such a combination),
and the Dry Bulb temperature suddenly drops to 79F at 2pm.
Interestingly,
it is noted that the ship turned from facing NW to SW at this point.
I've noted a similar pattern in temperatures occurs on quite a number of
days, with the dry bulb temp rising quite sharply in the late morning
and then dropping again at or around midday.
My suspicion is that
the Dry Bulb thermometer is positioned such that it catches the Sun
just before midday if the ship is facing N/NW whilst docked in Sausalito
Bay, and is therefore giving systematically high readings on sunny days
- probably worth noting when analysing the data.
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Its a long term issue that comes and goes, I suspect with the
weather (sunny or cloudy) - I've just started March 1901, and have
certainly noticed it since the beginning of 1901, possibly since arrival
in October 1900. There have been no relevant changes in officers, and
it occurs independently of the watch officer, so I doubt it's an
individual fault.
It's surprising that a scientific vessel would suffer from such a "simple" problem, as you say.
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Danny252 passes the 6000 mark!
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The wind direction for 2-4am on the 28th March 1901
(http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Albatross/vol038of055/vol038of055_092_0.jpg)
is recorded oddly - 2 and 4am use dittos, but written diagonally across
all three hours is "Westerly airs". I'm not sure whether this should be
interpreted as replacing all three entries, or applying to 3am only.
Edit: the late pm on the 28th also shows a similar entry, as do the 29th and 30th.
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3am could also have a ditto :-\
I think I would enter Westerly airs for all three lines, but I don't think other variants would be wrong.
Just make your best guess.
As Philip has said about DR vs. Obs if he sees different answers he will know that it is not clear ;)
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Agree... 3am seems to have a ditto as well.
That's odd... i'd
use Westerly airs for all three entries as well, since it has been most
probably written after the dittos (or it would not be crossing them
diagonally - instead i would be probably cancelled/striked through, with
more marked dittos to cover it, particularly the 3am one), therefore it
could be just a correction.
Looking at the following page
however, it's stated calm to variable airs from NW,NE,ESE,SE and SW
until 10am... those are apparently more easterly than westerly ???
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Looking
at the following page however, it's stated calm to variable airs from
NW,NE,ESE,SE and SW until 10am... those are apparently more easterly
than westerly ???
Quite odd indeed - although Ensign Kempff's recording of wind directions on the events page is quite ridiculous at times!
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On the 5th of April, 1901
(http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Albatross/vol038of055/vol038of055_101_0.jpg),
the weather page notes "April 5th Changed thermometer at 9am". No
further details given.
(I've noticed the odd occasion in the last
few pages where the Wet Bulb temp. exceeded the Dry Bulb, which in
addition to the previous oddities certainly makes it sound as if the
instrumentation was on the fritz)
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Danny252 passes the 7000 mark!
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The Albatross recorded the sea floor temperature at various points
during dredging operations at the end of April, 1901 - Janet previously
linked to a Smithsonian page in this thread with a number of logs of
dredging, which include the sea floor temperatures measured.
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Smithsonian Index for Albatross Field Notes is
http://collections.si.edu/search/results.htm?q=unit_code%3AFBR&dsort=&view=&date.slider=&fq=online_visual_material%3Atrue&start=240
These
April 1901 dredging results are online here:
http://collections.si.edu/search/tag/tagDoc.htm?recordID=fbr_item_MODSI6294&hlterm=unit_code%3AFBR
I
personally have no interest in transcribing this data, nor in
deciphering what it means, but it is very satisfying to see the real
results are still available from the work recorded in our logs.
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Even if you were interested, the results are already tabulated
nicely in the relevant paper:
http://invertebrates.si.edu/albatross/source/Albatross_3787-4190.pdf
(They seem terribly variable, but perhaps that's the nature of water temperatures at varying depth?)
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Google Maps had a bit of a grumble about me having too many points when I tried to upload my latest voyage map :(
Instead,
Google Drive will quite happily display anything you throw at it, and
will also let you download the original kml/kmz to view in Google Earth
or similar - if you download, you will be able to view the map split up
by year, as often-visited locations start to get a bit busy.
The link for the new version is: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B3d0C_0MNAaIZWktX2Z5LXRVbDQ/edit?usp=sharing
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Danny252 passes the 8000 mark!
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23rd June, 1900
(http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Albatross/vol036of055/vol036of055_120_1.jpg),
9am to meridian - "Set the aneroid barometer back 0.16 for correction".
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The watch seems to do a lot of 0.16 corrections, some times each day for quite a few days.
Anybody know why?
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The voyage map has been updated - as well as following my current
progress, a few months of the voyage before I joined have also been
added, most of which involved sailing in circles around Tokyo! (Edit:
Added the rest as well, so you can now follow the ship from 01/03/00 to
31/05/01, if you're really, really interested...)
The link is as before: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B3d0C_0MNAaIZWktX2Z5LXRVbDQ/edit?usp=sharing
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It seems that the plucky crew of the Albatross are letting nothing stop them from researching salmon...
This
time, they have decided to go exploring in the steam launch, pictured
here alongside the ship
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Albatross_%281882%29#mediaviewer/File:Uss_Albatross_1882.jpg).
Whilst a good boat for getting to and from shore, it doesn't seem
particularly suited to long journeys, never mind a day's worth of
sailing...
However, such trivial considerations didn't stop
Ensign Kempff
(http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Albatross/vol038of055/vol038of055_165_1.jpg),
who took the steam launch from Ketchikan up to the end of George Inlet,
over 20 miles away! I can only imagine that the trip there took the
better part of two hours. Despite being picked up by the ship in George
Inlet, they were still away for almost 13 hours. At least the weather
was mostly dry!
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Actually, the 2 boats that had steam engines were always intended for short expeditions away from the mother ship.
http://www.nefsc.noaa.gov/history/ships/albatross1/albatross1.html
The
Albatross carried five boats: a Herreshoff Steam Cutter, a steam gig, a
seine boat, a whale boat, and a dinghy. The 26-foot cutter seated eight
people, was powered with a 16-horse-power steam engine, and could make
eight knots, but it was also provided with sliding gunter masts
(http://www.duckworksmagazine.com/04/s/articles/gunter/) and sails,
schooner rigged. Her bunkers held 1000 pounds of coal.
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Depends mostly on your definition of "short", I guess!
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The Albatross' logs take a leap after the 30th June 1901, skipping forwards to 1st March 1904. Yay, change!
I've
finalised the crew listings for 1900/1901 (see the Crew Thread), and
will start a new set for 1904. Similarly, I'll start a new course map,
and the final 1900/1901 map can be found here
(https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B3d0C_0MNAaIZWktX2Z5LXRVbDQ).
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You skip three years of logbooks, and this is the sort of madness we
come back to: http://library.ucsd.edu/dc/object/bb99328714
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I wonder if that could be related to the missing log books ;)
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Danny252 passes the 9000 mark!
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Huzzah!
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I have updated the map link
(https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B3d0C_0MNAaIZWktX2Z5LXRVbDQ) to include
the start of the 1904 journey - if you download the file, you'll be
able to select which parts of the voyage to view easily.
Keen-eyed
voyage followers will note a new type of data point (the fish and hook
symbol) in the 1904 voyage, which denotes Dredging locations. The
logbook is often fairly vague about where the ship was during dredging
operations, and some days no mention of location is made at all.
However, the published results of the dredging surveys include a very
detailed record of the time and location of each individual dredging
run, and I have used these to create the "Dredging" data points. Each
data point includes the number of the dredging station and the location
details used.
For these specific dredging runs, the data comes
from the Bureau of Fisheries Document 604, "Dredging and Hydrographic
Records of the US Fisheries Steamer Albatross for 1904 and 1905". This
can be found in the Bureau report for 1905, which can be downloaded from
the NOAA website
(http://www.lib.noaa.gov/collections/imgdocmaps/fish_com_annualreport.html).
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04/04/04 (http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Albatross/vol039of055/vol039of055_042_1.jpg)
The
4th of April 1904 was an interesting day for crew being AWOL. Firstly,
one crew member who had previously left without permission was returned
by the local authorities in San Diego:
J Wilsen, Sea, brought on board by civil authorities. Placed in confinement on full rations until further orders.
However,
this was then followed by several other crewmembers running off. Two
later returned, but the slippery antics of McGinnis are somewhat amusing
- presumably he heard what had happened to Drummond and legged it
before they could get him in chains...
At
12.30pm, C E Hendrikson, F2C, left ship without permission. At 1.30pm, D
Drummond, Oil, T J Healy, Oil, and E M McGinnis, F2C, were found absent
without permission. D Drummond, Oiler, returned at 7.45pm, and was
confined in double irons. E M McGinnis, F2C, returned on board at
10.50pm, and again left without permission.
However,
the tale only continues to get more amusing, as the absentees continued
to evade the efforts of the officers for two more days!
05/04/04 (http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Albatross/vol039of055/vol039of055_043_1.jpg)
C
E Hendrikson, F2C, came on board during the night, and left again. T J
Healy, Oil, found on board at 7.00am and placed in confinement till
further orders.
06/04/04 (http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Albatross/vol039of055/vol039of055_044_1.jpg)
E
M McGinnis, F2C, and C E Hendrikson, F2C, returned on board at 12m from
absence without leave. By order of Commanding Officer McGinnis was
placed in confinement; Hendrikson could not be found in ship at 7am.
C E Hendrikson, F2C, returned on board from absence without leave and by order of Commanding Oficer was placed in confinement.
07/04/04 (http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Albatross/vol039of055/vol039of055_045_1.jpg)
The men were released from confinement just after the ship left port - i.e. they were no longer able to run off again!
By
order of Commanding officer the following men were released from
confinement and restored to duty: C E Hendrikson, F2C, D Drummond, Oil, E
M McGinnis, F2C, T J Healy, Oil, J Wilsen, Sea
09/04/04 (http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Albatross/vol039of055/vol039of055_047_1.jpg)
The punishments were awarded to days later:
Commanding
officer awarded follwing punishments: D Drummond, Oil, and T J Healy,
Oil, leaving ship without permission, reduced to Firemen 1 class; E M
McGinnis, F2C, and C E Hendrikson, F2C, same offence, reduced to CP; J
Wilsen, Sea, 8 days absent without leave, 3 days confinement and 10 days
quarantine; C A Olsen, McA1c, leaving ship without permission, tight,
and neglect of duty 3 weeks restriction.
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I wonder if that could be related to the missing log books ;)
:o Maybe the goat ate them. ::)
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bjoret
Welcome to the top 12 !
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Hi, this is only my fourth page for transcription so I would love a little guidance on:
1)
whether to, in general, put declarations of desertion and absence
without leave as Mentions (Person) or Events? Currently I have
marked Line and Bond in a Mention each (with the desertion / AWOL
recorded as the context).
2) whether to, in this specific case in
which the log page has an additional loose leaf page listing several
different dates and members of the crew declared as deserters across
various dates, include each of these as a separate Mention / Event and
specify each of the different dates??
3) I also noted that there is a crew list on the forum, should I make a post outlining these desertions?
Thanks in advance for your advice!
Sian (SlaneeBird)
P.S.
I'll past the link to the log here if anyone cares to see what I mean
(http://oldweather.org/transcriptions/54842e863f2fd84c5c018194/edit) and
I'll follow up tomorrow (my time, I'm in Australia).
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Hi, SlaneeBird,
Only the moderators can read that edit link -
the rest of the forum needs to see the jpeg link for the scan, which is
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Albatross/vol037of055/vol037of055_083_1.jpg
. (See Posting Links and Images (A Guide)
(http://forum.oldweather.org/index.php?topic=536.0))
This was the
answer I made some time ago, quoted below. As to the crew lists
on the forum, that is left to the transcriber's choice. You can do
anything from entering the real names to just giving the jpeg url and
saying what date that is for.
Rules
for the comments page are very relaxed, not like the weather
data. We have been strongly encouraged to not combine two or more
names on a single mentions tab, but we have never been required to tab
places or ships more than once.
Using the Mentions or Location
tabs in the comments is to provide a search index for the online scanned
pictures. As long as you have tabbed it once, it should be
OK. Especially if you are transcribing the paragraph as an
event. Especially since it's all optional anyway. ;)
Animals
and sea ice are a bit different - Kevin is using those tabs to count
sightings, not days. Again, it is optional. But any and all
descriptions and counts you include will get used.
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Good to have you aboard!
Janet already covered the basics, but I'll add a couple of comments from a slightly different view point ;)
1) The ones you did are fine. The only change I would suggest is that the rank be included with the name:
Mentions | Person | Name = Eugene Y. Line (M Att) Context = Eugene Y. Line (M Att) was this day declared a deserter from this vessel and US Naval Service
2)
As Janet says, people are optional. I would include the people on the
additional loose leaf page. That format is a bit tricky! You can enter
as much or as little as you want to, but please do not edit or
summarize. Guessing, with faint writing
running into the spine of the log book, is permitted - in fact it is
unavoidable! Here are a couple of possibilities:
Mentions | Person | Name = A E Bartlett Context = 18 Oct 1900 A E Bartlett declared a deserter from 8 Oct, 10 days absent without leave
or
Mentions | Person | Name = A E Bartlett Context = 18 Oct 1900 A E Bartlett declared a deserter from 8 Oct
or simply
Mentions | Person | Name = A E Bartlett Context = declared a deserter
The
line between guessing and editing can be pretty thin on occasion! Here I
have transcribed the date as 8 Oct, but 8th Oct and 8"Oct would also be
reasonable guesses :P
3) Again, as Janet says, if and how you add to the Crew List is up to you. There is a wide
variety of styles. In this particular case, I would suggest
coordinating your work with Danny252 since he has already done quite a
bit of work. The Crew List can be very helpful when you are trying to read a name!
If you have more questions or something still isn't clear, don't hesitate to ask!
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3) Again, as Janet says, if and how you add to the Crew List is up to you. There is a wide
variety of styles. In this particular case, I would suggest
coordinating your work with Danny252 since he has already done quite a
bit of work. The Crew List can be very helpful when you are trying to read a name!
I would very much welcome any corrections or queries about the lists I've thrown together!
From
November 1900 onwards, I put together a monthly list of names mentioned
(http://forum.oldweather.org/index.php?topic=3963.msg93458#msg93458),
along with an overall summary list of crewmembers
(http://forum.oldweather.org/index.php?topic=3963.msg93459#msg93459).
Given how many names there are, typos and missing information is quite
likely...
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Danny252 passes the 10,000 mark!
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Cor - well done!
(http://www.desismileys.com/smileys/desismileys_0143.gif)
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Ha, apparently doing a single page a few nights ago was what tipped me over the edge!
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bjoret passes the 500 mark!
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Going steadily, I see!
Much like my current logs in 1904 -
lots of floating about off the coast of CA, carrying out surveys of the
sea floor, and very little else! At least they're eating well:
Received on board for genl. mess 24# Steak, 23# Roast Beef, 15# Soup Meat, 5# Salt Port, 6# Ham.
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Not what I call a healthy diet :P
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Vegetables - for pity sake - vegetables! :-[ ;)
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They probably spent their entire vegetable budget on all those steaks!
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The accounting on the Albatross seems a bit questionable:
from R Rodrick + Co: 1 barrel of Lime and a lot of lumber.
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Albatross/vol039of055/vol039of055_058_1.jpg
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barrel ?
d. Miscellaneous articles sold as one unit: a lot of stamps sold at an auction.
However, that still sounds pretty vague :-\
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A barrel it is!
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On 22/04/1904
(http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Albatross/vol039of055/vol039of055_060_1.jpg),
the logbook records the following whilst anchored in Monterey Bay:
"Boatswain Mahoney, USN, left ship with a party of men to put up survey signals. Returned at 4.00 pm."
On 23/04/1904 (http://), there's another entry, at the same location:
"Commanding Officer went ashore and recovered the Pt Pinos Astron. Sta."
There's also a struck-through reference to "Monterey West ~ Triangulation Station" on the latter entry.
I'm
a bit lost as to why the Albatross was doing these - she's not a USCGS
ship (with some of OW's logs showing that they did put up survey
stations as a matter of course), and by this date I would have thought
California would be quite well surveyed. Also, it's not like Monterey is
terribly remote; even for bulky items, railroad access would have been
fairly simple.
I can find reference to astronomical observations
at Point Pinos in the early 1850s
(http://cdnc.ucr.edu/cgi-bin/cdnc?a=d&d=DAC18520116.2.27.37&srpos=5&e=-----1905--en--20--1-byDA-txt-txIN-%22Point+Pinos%22------#)
in order to establish its latitude, and a separate source
(http://home.europa.com/~telscope/califobs.txt) which discusses the fact
that the USCGS built a number of "observatories" for such purposes,
giving a similar date (1851).
It might be that the Albatross was
creating a new survey station to replace an old USCGS astronomical
survey station, but I'm not sure what equipment there would actually be
to bring back; my instinct is that it would be little more than a
telescope base and mount, with any actual telescope being brought up as
required for surveying (telescope optics wouldn't take too kindly to
being left out in the open). A few early photos of Pt Pinos Lighthouse
don't show anything substantial, at least.
Anybody have some pertinent thoughts?
Edit:
Some more references to "put[ting] up a signal" at Moss Landing and a
second (abortive) attempt to send a boat in on 25/04/1904
(http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Albatross/vol039of055/vol039of055_063_1.jpg),
another survey station on 26/04/1904
(http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Albatross/vol039of055/vol039of055_064_1.jpg),
a reference to putting up "a range" at Moss Landing on 27/04/1904
(http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Albatross/vol039of055/vol039of055_065_1.jpg),
a survey station at Neponset(?) 28/04/1904
(http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Albatross/vol039of055/vol039of055_066_1.jpg),
and further references beyond that - I'll make a full (neater) report
on each of these as I transcribe each page!
However, this does
explain why the ship was loading lumber, construction supplies and paint
a few days ago
(http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Albatross/vol039of055/vol039of055_058_1.jpg):
Received on board from F Pierce:
2 Hand Hatchets, 1 Grindstone, 8 drawer Locks,
2 Hammers, 100 Spikes, 6", 25# White Lime,
2 Cross cut Saws, 6 Whitewash Brushes, 25 White Lead; and
from R Rodrick + Co: 1 band of Lime and a lot of lumber.
Edit 2: After all that, I may have solved it - whilst the coast
may be well surveyed by 1904, the sea bed isn't! The ship started
dredging operations in Monterey Bay on 10/05/1904
(http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Albatross/vol039of055/vol039of055_079_1.jpg),
mentioning that they were taking "horizontal angles", presumably to all
their survey stations. Still, I would've thought the bay wouldn't be
too hard to chart from natural landmarks alone, as we've done elsewhere,
nor do I know why we took the astronomical station to bits!
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tastiger
Welcome to the top 12 !
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tastiger passes the 500 mark!
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I'm surprised not more people are on this ship or do more once
they're on; it's one of the lighter ones when it comes to handwriting
and amount written on the events page. :/
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However, it's not so good if you'd like something exciting to
happen, even occasionally! Not unusual to have several months sat in
port between expeditions when the Fisheries Commission lacked any work
(or funding), and even when out and about, things can be quite routine.
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However,
it's not so good if you'd like something exciting to happen, even
occasionally! Not unusual to have several months sat in port between
expeditions when the Fisheries Commission lacked any work (or funding),
and even when out and about, things can be quite routine.
Then it's my favorite ship! :D (I tend to like routine ships on here.)
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However, it's not so good if you'd like something exciting to happen, even occasionally!
Could
someone please direct me to the ship with consistently excellent,
easily read handwriting, lots of exciting adventures and a lack of
tedious of course changes and depth readings everyday? I might be
willing to abandon the Thetis for that one!
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However, it's not so good if you'd like something exciting to happen, even occasionally!
Could
someone please direct me to the ship with consistently excellent,
easily read handwriting, lots of exciting adventures and a lack of
tedious of course changes and depth readings everyday? I might be
willing to abandon the Thetis for that one!
I've
heard Concord is very eventful, and the other two Albatrosses have good
handwriting. :/ Otherwise I'd assume that ship would already be done.
:P ;D
We did have a lot of ship Phase I and II (305 to be
exact http://old.oldweather.org/vessels?status=all
(http://old.oldweather.org/vessels?status=all)), including one that
wouldn't zoom in and one that had to be removed because of missing pages
(I believe it was at 51% at the time). We probably had one like that
there that was finished in the first month. ;D
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Of course, the second I mention the ship being boring, this happens (26/04/1904):
C
Bregers, OS, was brought on board by City Marshal at 9.45, 33 hrs
overtime, and a fine of $10.00 was collected by the latter, on Breger's
accounts for disturbing the peace while on shore.
At 7.00 H E Patrick, Sea, was brought on board by the City Marshal, 19 hrs overtime. A reward of $10.00 was paid for Patrick.
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Albatross/vol039of055/vol039of055_064_1.jpg
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Data for April 1904 is up - the Crew List has been updated, as has
the Voyage Map
(https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B3d0C_0MNAaIZWktX2Z5LXRVbDQ). This
month's activity was mostly a 10 day scientific voyage among the islands
off LA, ending up in Monterey, where we're now putting up survey
signals along the coast in preparation for an intensive survey of the
bottom Monterey Bay.
Excluding the exciting crewmember chase in
San Diego, the crew were pretty uneventful this month, although one was
fined $10 for disturbing the peace. The main query is T. Caldeno, who
was transferred to hospital for treatment, but no record of injury or
illness was made:
"Surgeon J Thompson, USN, left the ship on
duty, in charge of T Caldeno, OS, transferred to the US Naval Hospital,
Mare Island, for treatment."
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Albatross/vol039of055/vol039of055_065_1.jpg
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A listing of the ship's magazine, on 02/05/1904:
The Magazine contains:
60 Lee-Rem Magazines (rifle-),
1 Strut Hammer,
1 Main Spring,
2 Hands with Springs&,
1 Stirrup, hammer,
1 Spring Ejector,
10 Revolver Holsters,
2541 Rifle Cartridges (45 cal.),
2519 Pistol " (38 "),
20 Packs, Rings, etc.,
1 Loading Box.
In all 8 boxes or cases.
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Albatross/vol039of055/vol039of055_070_1.jpg
This complements the ship's armament:
10 Lee-Remington Rifles;
9 Colts Revolvers
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Albatross/vol039of055/vol039of055_007_0.jpg
A
somewhat surprising amount of ammunition - 250 cartridges per gun! It
does explain the fairly regular hunting trips in Alaska, though.
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tastiger passes the 1000 mark!
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The Albatross - a family affair?
03/05/1904 (http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Albatross/vol039of055/vol039of055_072_1.jpg)
Enlisted for four years general service: A B Stowe, OS, ... L A Stowe, Lds.
06/05/1904 (http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Albatross/vol039of055/vol039of055_075_1.jpg)
Enlisted W A Stowe, Lads, for 4 years genl service dating from 4 inst (after waiver).
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wendolk (Kathy)
Welcome to the top 12 !
I suspect Danny will be happy to have another events person ;)
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The Albatross - a family affair?
03/05/1904 (http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Albatross/vol039of055/vol039of055_072_1.jpg)
Enlisted for four years general service: A B Stowe, OS, ... L A Stowe, Lds.
06/05/1904 (http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Albatross/vol039of055/vol039of055_075_1.jpg)
Enlisted W A Stowe, Lads, for 4 years genl service dating from 4 inst (after waiver).
That's sweet!
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Sounds like a single father taking care of his son while educating him in a trade. :)
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Well, we are in Sausalito Bay - which seems to be the Hong Kong of the West Coast ;D
Not a lot happening, but that will make an event all the sweeter when it happens!
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For your entertainment between transcriptions, here's some contemporary news articles on the Albatross for 1904:
Albert
Grant, an Indian Seaman, was fined $20 in Sausalito on 16/04/1904, for
battery.
(http://cdnc.ucr.edu/cgi-bin/cdnc?a=d&d=SN19040116.2.29.5&srpos=4&e=--1904---1904--en--20--1-byDA-txt-txIN-Albatross------#)
Lt
Alexander Neely Mitchell married Ms Mabel Quatmann on 10/02/1904, with
Annapolis classmate Lt David C Hanrihan as his best man.
(http://cdnc.ucr.edu/cgi-bin/cdnc?a=d&d=SFC19040211.2.40&srpos=11&e=--1904---1904--en--20--1-byDA-txt-txIN-Albatross------#)
Interestingly, Hanrihan was later sent to the Albatross as replacement
for Mitchell, on the latter leaving to be examined for promotion in
April (which was also apparently worthy of a mention
(http://cdnc.ucr.edu/cgi-bin/cdnc?a=d&d=SFC19040401.2.35&srpos=36&e=--1904---1904--en--20--21-byDA-txt-txIN-Albatross------#))!
Article includes pictures of the bridge and groom.
The crews
Albatross, McCulloch, and Thetis threw a dance at Buena Vista Park in
Sausalito on 26/02/1904.
(http://cdnc.ucr.edu/cgi-bin/cdnc?a=d&d=SN19040227.2.20&srpos=24&e=--1904---1904--en--20--21-byDA-txt-txIN-Albatross------#)
The
Albatross' dredging work off the California coast generated several
articles, in the LA Herald
(http://cdnc.ucr.edu/cgi-bin/cdnc?a=d&d=LAH19040302.2.189&srpos=26&e=--1904---1904--en--20--21-byDA-txt-txIN-Albatross------#),
San Francisco Call
(http://cdnc.ucr.edu/cgi-bin/cdnc?a=d&d=SFC19040304.2.97&srpos=27&e=--1904---1904--en--20--21-byDA-txt-txIN-Albatross------#)
and Mariposa Gazette
(http://cdnc.ucr.edu/cgi-bin/cdnc?a=d&d=MG19040312.2.30&srpos=29&e=--1904---1904--en--20--21-byDA-txt-txIN-Albatross------#).
The
completion of the work off San Diego led to some more news articles in
the San Francisco Call
(http://cdnc.ucr.edu/cgi-bin/cdnc?a=d&d=SFC19040408.2.72.5&srpos=38&e=--1904---1904--en--20--21-byDA-txt-txIN-Albatross------#),
Sausalito News
(http://cdnc.ucr.edu/cgi-bin/cdnc?a=d&d=SN19040409.2.19&srpos=39&e=--1904---1904--en--20--21-byDA-txt-txIN-Albatross------#)
and the LA Herald
(http://cdnc.ucr.edu/cgi-bin/cdnc?a=d&d=LAH19040409.2.79&srpos=&e=--1904---1904--en--20--21-byDA-txt-txIN-Albatross------).
The
Albatross was deemed important enough to be mentioned in Congress
Proceedings reported by the San Francisco Call
(http://cdnc.ucr.edu/cgi-bin/cdnc?a=d&d=SFC19040503.2.40&srpos=50&e=--1904---1904--en--20--41-byDA-txt-txIN-Albatross------#).
I'll try and keep a few articles coming along now and then, to keep pace with my logs transcribed!
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8)
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The Albatross adopted Metric Time on 20/05/1904:
"At 4:71pm, started ahead full speed on course NW..."
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Albatross/vol039of055/vol039of055_089_1.jpg
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:o
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Also, our research into marine life is being disrupted by... marine life!
A
whale again interfered with the sounding wire, carrying off 67 turns of
the same from the Sigsbee Machine; also a 35# lead attached.
The
scientific logs report "Whale fouled sounding wire and parted it at an
intermediate station" on station Dr 4525 on 26/05/1904, and the previous
occurrence (not mentioned in the ship's log) was at station Dr 4455 on
12/05/1904, noting "Whale fouled sounding gear, carrying it afoul of
propeller and parting wire."
Another animal-related incident was
recorded at station Dr 4516 on 24/05/1904 as the dredging net was
brought up: "Some bottom fish floated up out of net; dusky albatross
devoured some; few recovered by lowering boat".
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Dusky albatross beats USFS Albatross ;)
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I'll admit I had to read it a couple of times to work out what "albatross" it was referring to!
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The voyage map has been updated for May 1904, which includes most of
the dredging activity in Monterey Bay - 25 more dredging locations
recorded in June, vs 103 in May!
Link for those who don't want to go fishing for it: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B3d0C_0MNAaIZWktX2Z5LXRVbDQ/view
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Good grief - I thought they were studying coastal areas and harbors,
that voyage the did the entire Great Circle Routs across the north
Pacific!! Amazing.
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And that's just the last part of the voyage that was caught by the
1900 logbooks - the expedition sailed from San Francisco in August 1899,
only reaching Japan in March 1900! The latter part of 1904 will include
another voyage, this time to the SE pacific off Central and Southern
America; that will last from October 1904 to April 1905.
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An amazing ship to be on. :)
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Of course, between those bouts of excitement, the ship tended to sit
around in SF Bay, waiting for someone to find the funding for a new
expedition...
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Sounds like a totally normal bureaucracy. :)
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How do you handle crewmembers who are slightly too eager to run off?
You confine them each night when you send out the liberty party, of course!
By
order of Commanding Officer H E Patrick, Sea, and T J Healy, F1C, were
confined for safekeeping till further orders for leaving ship without
permission.
Liberty party returned on board. Released H E Patrick, Sea, and T J Healy, F1C, from confinement.
Confined H E Patrick, Sea, and T J Healy, F1C. Sent liberty party ashore
Released H E Patrick, Sea, and T J Healy, F1C, from confinement, by order of Commanding Officer.
Confined H E Patrick, Sea, and T J Healy, F1C. Sent liberty party ashore.
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One can only hope they learned something from this experience...
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Seems they were kept confined from then to the 15th, released for
the duration of sailing that day, and immediately re-confined on arrival
in San Francisco!
Related to that, a short newspaper article
reporting on the Albatross' return to her home port of San Francisco
appeared in the San Francisco Call, 16/06/1904
(http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Albatross/vol039of055/vol039of055_116_0.jpg):
Albatross Returns
The
United States Fish Commission steamer Albatross, Captain Swift,
returned yesterday from an extended cruise along the California coast.
The Albatross visited many places, but did the most work in Monterey
Bay, where she spent a month. She will probably make another short
cruise before the fall, when she starts for a lengthy sojourn in the
South Seas.
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Additionally, the Albatross was present at the opening of the new
tented city, casino, and pleasure beach in Santa Cruz, CA, on
11/06/1904, with the San Francisco Call
(http://cdnc.ucr.edu/cgi-bin/cdnc?a=d&d=SFC19040612.2.47&srpos=66&e=-01-1904-----en--20--61-byDA-txt-txIN-Albatross------#)
reporting:
The
new tented city, casino and pleasure pier were dedicated this evening
under most auspicious circumstances. Excursion trains were run to the
city and thousands of visitors from all sections of the State took part
in the festivities. The United States Government vessel Albatross came
here under special orders to participate In the celebration and was
anchored in front of the brilliantly illuminated casino.
The
festivities also included pyrotechnic displays, a parade led by the
Third Artillery band (and later a concert by the same), and a "Big
Electric Display", which included an electric star affixed to the dome
of the casino!
The logbook doesn't mention the festivities
themselves, but does record that "Mayor Clark and party called on
Commanding Officer and Ward Room Officers" the day before
(http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Albatross/vol039of055/vol039of055_110_1.jpg).
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That all sounds like a terrible temptation to anyone tempted to overstay his leave!
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The San Francisco Call had an article on the reassignment of
fisheries expert H. C. Fassett, who spent many years on the Albatross,
on 18/06/1904:
Promotion for H. C. Fassett.
H.
C. Fassett, who has spent fifteen years on the Albatross in the service
of the Fish Commission, or Bureau of Fisheries, as it is now called,
was yesterday detached and ordered to Loring, Alaska. to make a study of
the salmon there. Fassett, during his long service on the Albatross.
has had the advantage of co-operating in the most important scientific
researches in which the Fish Commission steamer has participated, and he
is deemed one of the most valuable men in the service. [...]
The
article also records the retirement of Chief Yeoman H C Reed on the
same day, which was recorded in the logbook
(http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Albatross/vol039of055/vol039of055_117_1.jpg).
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I spy with my little eye, someone who starts with 'A'
USS Concord 04 May 1900 (http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Concord/vol027of040/vol027of040_135_1.jpg)
4 to 8 AM
Yokohama, Japan
At 4:30 a C. P. Steamer came in, followed, at 6:30, by another: At 5:30 the "Albatross" left the harbor:
Have a pleasant trip.
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As a matter of interest, with both ships in Yokohama Harbor on May 1st, 1900:
Ship
Date
Time
Dir Speed Press Attach Dry Wet Water Weather
Cloud Clear Sky
Albatross 1-May-1900 1:00
PM SWbyS
2-3 30.44
69 63
62 bc
Cum 9
Concord
1-May-1900 1:00 PM SSW
3 30.35
70 69
65
bc Fr Cum
7
Concord reports amount of clear sky, 7, Albatross clouds 1, which equals 9 of clear sky.
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We've seen wind disagreements in port before, it depends what shore
structures are bouncing the wind around. The difference in
humidity, barometer and cloud cover is a bit scary.
Instrumentation does not seem reliable.
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Concord's wet bulb, as a rule, always seems too high to me. There's
not much difference in the wind: SWbyS and SSW (213 and 225 degrees).
The pressures aren't too bad, either, 1031 and 1028 millibars. It always
looks worse in inches. One day, when I feel tempted, I might collect
the weather for the several days they were in port together and compare a
larger number of WRs. The same for when Concord and Yorktown were in
port together. Of course, we'll never know who had the better weather
observers - the Navy or the Coast Guard. ;) In the meantime, back
to transcribing.
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I'm quite sure Philip knows to correct for instrumentation and a best guess principle. :)
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Well, cloud code is a bit vague - there's no instrument for this, it depends on the observer.
At least they managed to agree on Cum.
Personally,
I never pay attention to stuff like this - following TWYS perfectly is
good enough for me. I figure the eggheads behind the project can sort
all the messy bits out, because they're eggheads and I'm not (Well, not
in this field anyway...)
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Exactly, Hanibal and Janet. It takes a lot of training and practice
to be a weather observer, and estimating how much of the sky is covered
by clouds, or what the wind direction is takes skill, and even two
highly skilled observers will often come up with slightly different
numbers. As for the wet bulb, it could be that the man on the Concord
isn't spinning his sling psychrometer long enough, or he's standing by a
hatchway and humid air from the ship is affecting his readings.
40 years of forecasting weather makes me curious about these things.
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Analysing the data for 4 days, from the 1st to the 4th of May:
Cloud
Cover - The two ships broadly agree, although the Concord's logkeeper
is usually slightly more optimistic, giving 1 or 2 tenths extra clear
sky: http://i.imgur.com/JMMYL0q.png
Wind Force - Again, there is
broad agreement, but there is a definite trend towards the Concord
recording a force ~2 higher than the Albatross. Where a range of forces
was given, I took the mean value (2-3 is 2.5, 4-6 is 5.0):
http://i.imgur.com/O8tFDJd.png
Barometer - It is clear that the
Concord's barometer is reading about 0.10 low compared to the Albatross.
There is also a suggestion that the Concord's is less sensitive,
reacting less to large changes in pressure than the Albatross':
http://i.imgur.com/HFoUUhQ.png
Dry Thermometer - There is a
strange effect where the ships record morning peaks in temperatures very
differently. I have noticed that the Albatross regularly has a
significant peak somewhere between 8am and 12pm, a noticable example of
which is seen on the third day. The Concord has its own unmatched peak
on the fourth day: http://i.imgur.com/SqLY4am.png
Wet Thermometer
- The general shape seems to match better, although the unmatched peaks
on the third and fourth days still appear. It also seems the Concord is
generally recording higher temperatures: http://i.imgur.com/GFNCMnD.png
Albatross Dry Thermometer vs Concord Att'd Thermometer - I include this graph as the Concord's attached thermometer does
seem to see the peaks that the Albatross does! I figure the higher
readings on the Concord after a peak are due to the Attached thermometer
being inside, where the heat is contained until the evening:
http://i.imgur.com/1VSbXhR.png
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Very interesting, Danny. Saved me a bunch of work. If you're as
interested as I am, Concord and Yorktown were in Iloilo, Philippine
Islands from 01 Mar to 08 Mar 1900. (I didn't check the logs for
Yorktown, to ensure they were there the entire time, but they were being
reported by Concord.) I was saving this for a rainy day, which in
Victoria, a few and far between! ;)
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I wonder how these discrepancies would effect the uncertainty
bubbles that we see in the videos Philip makes from our transcriptions.
Since the number of encounters like this are rather small compared to
the total number of ship-days we transcribe, I suppose it would be
impossible to extrapolate the errors to the large scale. One can only
say that even if the recorded data are not perfect, they are a whole lot
better than nothing. What we need is to compare three ships in the same
place, just like we have three transcribers for each log page ;D
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We may be talking about precisely the situations where more data
increased uncertainty - you know for a fact that one or both is wrong,
you just don't know where the truth lies.
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Quote
I wonder how these discrepancies would effect the
uncertainty bubbles that we see in the videos Philip makes from our
transcriptions.
end quote.
Who sees, what, where, when?
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Quote
... you just don't know where the truth lies.
end quote.
Where the truth lies, Movie 2005, Stars: Kevin Bacon, Colin Firth, Alison Lohman, if that is any help. ::)
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Another consideration is that the ships often spend a lot of time in
port. For example, I would guess that San Francisco had very good
weather records around 1900, which could be compared to the Albatross'
records when docked in port for extended amounts of time.
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Quote
I
wonder how these discrepancies would effect the uncertainty bubbles
that we see in the videos Philip makes from our transcriptions.
end quote.
Who sees, what, where, when?
I
should have said "uncertainty cloud", Stuart. I am referring to some of
Philip's Vimeo videos on the OW Blog that show the results of our
transcriptions over time.
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OW blog, where is that?
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Right here (how could one of our VIPs NOT know where it is?): http://blog.oldweather.org/
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:-[
Thanks.
With the Pioneer voyage, I keep looking for the grid to turn the worm.
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Aha! The barometer discrepancy seems to have an explanation:
USFC
Albatross, 23rd June, 1900
(http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Albatross/vol036of055/vol036of055_120_1.jpg),
9am to meridian - "Set the aneroid barometer back 0.16 for correction".
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Aha! The barometer discrepancy seems to have an explanation:
USFC
Albatross, 23rd June, 1900
(http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Albatross/vol036of055/vol036of055_120_1.jpg),
9am to meridian - "Set the aneroid barometer back 0.16 for correction".
How cool is that!!!! Isn't science wonderful.
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Following leelaht's "What's for dinner?" on the Vicksburg, the Albatross now presents "What's been delivered?"
Over
the summer of 1904, the ship was prepared for a lengthy voyage in the
South Seas. This included some weird and wonderful items being delivered
between June and October:
10/06 - 424 feet of Redwood Lumber and 1 bale Excelsior
11/06 - 1 bale Excelsior and 3 gross 2 1/4" iron screws #10
17/06
- 100ft 4-ply 2" Cottom Hose, 12# Polish Paste, 12 Bath Bricks, 500#
White Zinc, 100# Wh. Lead, 40 gals. Boiled Oil, 20 gals turpentine, 12#
Patent Dryers, 3 doz. Pears' Soap, 1 roll Strap Iron.
18/06 - 352 ft lumber for dunnage when coaling ship
23/06 - Six cases of medical stores
29/06 - Stores
01/07 - Stores
06/07 - 2 pair Blankets, 2 gal. Jap ~, 5# Vermillion, 10ft 1 1/4 rd tool steel, and 7 Mattresses (renovated)
08/07 - 500# Red Lead, 300# Wh. Lead, 100# Rags, 72 sheets Emery Cloth, 6 steel wire Brushes
11/07 - 6 12-inch Varnish Brushes, 6 3-inch Varnish Brushes, 12 smoke stack stay springs
13/07 - Lot of clothing and small stores
19/07
- 360 sheets Sandpaper, 12# Twine, 5# Beeswax, 25# Putty, 20# each Drop
Black, Lamp Black and Venetian Red, 25# Chrome Green, 5 gal Asphaltene
Varnish, 2 gal Damar Var, 5 doz. Cup ~, 5# graphite, 5# Chalk, 40#
Seizing Wire, 24 cakes Ivory Soap, 12 agate wash basins, 5 gal. Raw Oil,
10# sheet Brass, 1# golden ochre, 4 Topsail sheet clip hooks, 1 drawer
lock, 5# Smooth On C~t
27/07 - 4 sheets Asbestos, 50 ft Strap Iron, 50 stove Bolts, 12 fire bricks
05/08 - Drum of dredging winch sent ashore for repairs
10/08
- 2 clocks, 1 Briss Log complete, 5 doz. Eyelets, 1 cleat with bolts, 1
gal. Crude Oil for paint burner, and 1 box Toilet Soap.
16/08 - 1 box of tin knock-down tanks, 6 long and 6 short dipnet handles
18/08 - 200 ft rubber jose, 1 forge
22/08
- 1 set crossheads, crosshead brasses, crank brasses and connecting
rods complete; 1 set eccentric rods, straps, and link blocks complete; 1
set brass vavles for Marsh Feed Pump; 1 Launch Propellor; 1 set piston
rings; 1 set piston valves; 1 set vales (2 feet pump valves, 1 air pump
valve, 1 air pump check valve); cotton wick packing for valves; packing
for valve stem, piston rod and propellor shaft stuffing box; set of 18
Mid. Drum Nipples for boiler; set of 6 3/4" Union eblows with gaskets;
set of 4 separating drum nipples, 6 sets of circulating pipes; 12 fire
bricks; 1 Teed coil complete; 1 set Equalizing Nipples; Set of 4
coupling bolts; 10 lbs cement (fire brick); 1 set valve gear for
Worthington Pump; 30 ft 1/2" conduit; 40ft 3/4" ditto; 16ft 1 1/4"
ditto; 140 ft #10 cable; 50ft cable like sample; 75 ft #8 cable; and 1
lbs soft solder.
24/08 - 5# English Vermillion, 5# Venetian Red, 1 lot of single and double blocks, hawks, thimbles, and 1 bolt for main stay.
25/08 - Two new spars for main and dredging booms.
26/08
- 1 20 trawl formers and beams with fastenings; 1 mainstaysail, 1
spring staysail, 1 forward deck awning, 1 side awning (in 2 sections), 1
windsail, 1 Sounding Machine Cover, 1 Winch cover, 1 Handvice, 1 50ft
Bundle 5/16" rawhide belt lacings, 1 set small taps and dies standard, 1
Flatter 2", Top and Bottom Swedges 1/4" to 1 1/2", Ditto Fullers 1/4 to
1 1/2", 2 Bolt tongs, 18", 2 Blacksmiths tongs, 2 2' Rulers, 1 50' Tape
measure, 30 pcs 1 1/8"x30" rd mild steel, 20' 3" - 25' 2" - 15' 1 1/2"
belt lacings, 1 set 1 1/2 to 2" duplex dies, 1 set duplex paper stock
and dies, 1 Tancet Perfection 1 1/2" auger hole, 1 pair 8" pliers, 10' 2
1/2" pipe, 2 2 1/2" Tees, 2 2 1/2" elbows, 2 sets 2 1/2" pipe flanges, 2
sets 2", 2 sets 1 1/2", and 2 sets 1 1/4" pipe flanges, 3 jack screws, 1
Yale and Town duplex chain blocks.
27/08 - 1 grindstone with fixtures, 3 gals Spar Composition.
29/08 - 1000 lbs of junk sold and sent ashore.
31/08 - 1 drum for dredging cable and 8 skiffs and fittings for dredging boom, and 1 register
01/09 - Stores
02/09 - 1 new electric fan and 4 electric light fixtures which had been sent ashore for repairs.
03/09 - 3 bands, 1 chain slings, and 6 martine spikes
06/09 - 6 sleeves for blocks and 1 pin.
07/09 - 7 mast hoops, 6 boat hooks, 6 spare handles, 1 megaphone and 5 gals Anti-fouling Compound.
08/09 - Two (2) reels of new dredging wire, containing 12000 fms
09/09
- 1 spring mattress, 1 hair mattress, 2 hair pillows, 1 roll linoleum, 1
set curtains and fixtures, 1 rocking chair, 2 ratton chairs, 1 bath
tub, 1 stern light, 4 binnacle lights and 1 smoking lamp; also 15
barrels of alcohol.
13/09 - 385 sounding shots and sinkers and a supply photo. dry plates. Barometer ashore for repair.
26/09 - Stores
28/09 - Storing provisions and stores. Received lot of Eng. Stores.
02/10 - Two (2) tons of ice; also 3 (three) Swivels.
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Rocking chair? Not exactly something I picture on board a ship!
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07/09 - 7 mast hoops, 6 boat hooks, 6 spare handles, 1 megaphone and 5 gals Anti-fouling Compound.
I wonder if they used the Anti-fouling Compound to tone down the messages on the megaphone?
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That Sep. 9th delivery of furniture has to be the captain's
cabin. But including "also 15 barrels of alcohol" with that
shipment? ???
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That
Sep. 9th delivery of furniture has to be the captain's cabin. But
including "also 15 barrels of alcohol" with that shipment? ???
Likely
for the Scientific Dept, which used it for preserving biological
samples from the sea floor. Bluemuffin78 says she's also seen regular
deliveries on the Yorktown before, and suggested it might be used for
cleaning.
The furniture is probably related to a change of
commander that happened around that time - probably sent off just as
much furniture belonging to the old commander!
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That
Sep. 9th delivery of furniture has to be the captain's cabin. But
including "also 15 barrels of alcohol" with that shipment? ???
Just
as well they didn't deliver alcohol in that sort of quantity to
Albatross in '85/86. A fair proportion of the crew seemed to be
more or less permanently plastered as it was.
[cue drunken emoticon here]
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A good test of sobriety would be to get them to recite '12 smoke
stack stay springs' - as delivered on 11th July .... ;D
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A good test of sobriety would be to get them to recite '12 smoke stack stay springs' - as delivered on 11th July .... ;D
Most
of the Albatross '85 bunch would struggle with 'Aye aye, sir', as they
are characterised by insubordination as well consumption of the demon
drink.
:'(
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A good test of sobriety would be to get them to recite '12 smoke stack stay springs' - as delivered on 11th July .... ;D
Most
of the Albatross '85 bunch would struggle with 'Aye aye, sir', as they
are characterised by insubordination as well consumption of the demon
drink.
:'(
Sounds like the crew on the Concord. Maybe the 85 bunch came to Concord in 1891 when they were tired of the Albatross.
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Or when the Albatross was tired of them?
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The 7th/8th of July 1904 had some date confusion on the logkeeper's
part, and it's a bit hard to work out what the date actually is due to
the logkeeper trying to correct his entry, rather than just crossing out
the wrong date! For any future transcribers, the correct dates are:
7th of July: http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Albatross/vol039of055/vol039of055_137_1.jpg
8th of July: http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Albatross/vol039of055/vol039of055_138_1.jpg
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JanetET-S
Welcome to the top 12 !
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JanetET-S passes the 500 mark!
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JanetET-S passes the 1000 mark!
WOW! ;D
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JanetET-S passes the 1500 mark!
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2* only because of the large number of faded pages.
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HHTime Ron
Welcome to the top 12 !
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Anyone know what we are doing dredging with an 8' Jammer
in 754 feet of water of Cape Mendocino? Surely this is deep
enough. Is this some type of fishing science? I can think of
much less destructive ways of finding out what's down there.
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The Albatross is a research ship:
A
Smithsonian tribute notes: "The Albatross, designed to go anywhere in
the world and work in the greatest depths, contributed more to our
knowledge of marine fishes than any other ship"
See Albatross -- Reference: Transcription Example and Log Description (http://forum.oldweather.org/index.php?topic=3901.0)
I
agree about the dredging, but over a century ago there was less concern
over the environment and there were probably fewer choices of
techniques.
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HHTime Ron passes the 500 mark!
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A lot of the early knowledge about life on the sea floor came from
the studies done by the Albatross - I think in some cases, the specimens
collected might still be the best available!
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Definitely - googling gets me phrases like "40% of current mollusk
collection came from the steamer Albatross" and "best in the
world". I know from our assigned archivist that the Smithsonian
definitely wants our completed logs to be linked to both its specimen
collection and these Field Note Logbooks
(http://www.biodiversityheritagelibrary.org/subject/Marine%20biology#/titles).
Another case of a different science than climatology valuing our work
quite highly. ;)
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Janet, do you (or our archivist) know whether the Smithsonian are
aware of the information in the US Fisheries Commission reports? They
contain the full dredging logs, and I dare say there's not much the
logbook can tell you that they can't - in general, other than noting the
station numbers visited during a watch, there's rarely much of
relevance.
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Mark said, "That is the ship the Smithsonian wants to link up with,
they still have the specimens and want the logs connected. Can you
get them soon?" 8)
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Too bad he didn't tell us sooner :'(
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Too bad he didn't tell us sooner :'(
Hey,
this was the first staff meeting where the agenda gave him an
opening. Interesting conversation, it was, I didn't know they
considered the specimens collected in our voyages were still in the
active archives. I thought that was cool, and definitely not too
late for us and Albatross. :)
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Interesting - perhaps I shall join the Albatrosses once I am done
with what I'm doing now, if the Smithsonian wants to see them completed.
EDIT:
On second thought, my refusal to transcribe any events may not be so
useful to the Smithsonian. Problem is, there's no way I can change my
habits - even now, I often forget to check for sea ice.
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Hanibal, be yourself. We like you as you are, don't force
something you don't want. Those samples and field logs have been
waiting for us for more than a century, a few months more is very OK.
And
yes the Smithsonian wants the comment pages, so at least one
historian-transcriber is wanted here. On the other hand, having
second and third transcribers to go quickly thru the WRs is not a loss.
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With Myself, Ron, and JanetET-S (is that Janet Jaguar?), I think we've got three already!
And
yes, the weather pages wouldn't be of much use for the Smithsonian. At
best they record 8am/Noon/8pm lon/lat entries, but the scientific logs
already record that in better detail.
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Nope, this project has at least 3 Janets: Janet Jaguar, jil and
JanetET-S in order of joining the forum, I don't want to even guess how
many are out among the transcribers. We have what used to be a
very popular name, which is why none of us has wanted to simplify our
username down to a simpler "Janet" - if there isn't a second one of us
in a group when we join, another one (or more) is sure to come later. ;)
It
is a name I have really liked ever since I read what it means in my
mother's baby name book: either "God is gracious" or "God's
gracious gift" - hard to complain about that.
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With Myself, Ron, and JanetET-S (is that Janet Jaguar?), I think we've got three already!
And
yes, the weather pages wouldn't be of much use for the Smithsonian. At
best they record 8am/Noon/8pm lon/lat entries, but the scientific logs
already record that in better detail.
I was more thinking 1884 and 1890. I'll probably save 1900 for later, because it's so big and I wouldn't wanna disrupt you.
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Ah, that makes more sense! Yes, those two do seem slightly unloved at the present.
(With luck I'll be getting proper internet back tomorrow, and then I can get on with transcribing some more!)
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Fingers crossed! ;D
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vol038of055_134_1.jpg (http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Albatross/vol038of055/vol038of055_134_1.jpg)
May 1901, "[size=78%]USS ~ stood down Sound" Looks like "Iowa" or "Down" I find [/size][/size]neither ship in index (USS Iowa isn't built until 1940)[size=78%]
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Are you sure it's not THIS Iowa?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Iowa_(BB-4) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Iowa_(BB-4))
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I was just about to post that ;D
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Yes! For sure. I Googled USS Iowa and got the newer one
on the first page. After your post, 2nd page -- there it was!
Thanks! Patiences, thoroughness. Must practice more!
:)
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I was just about to post that ;D
I just happened to be in the area when I saw the question, and decided to go ahead and answer it.
Yes!
For sure. I Googled USS Iowa and got the newer one on the first
page. After your post, 2nd page -- there it was! Thanks!
Patiences, thoroughness. Must practice more! :)
Don't
worry - once you've been here for as long as I have (4.5 years), your
naval knowledge will have increased by at least 500% as well.
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The best part of OW as far as I'm concerned is the constant learning
process. I've learned more about navies, oceans, climate and
history here than any teacher or professor was ever able to cram into my
unwilling head. :)
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Regarding comments about tripling up on certain logs -- I have been
sticking with Albatross 1900 lately only because it is the one with the
least completed (and a chance to get into a Top 12 spot ;) ).
Staying with one ship also seems to go faster; BUT, I really have no
particular preference. In the beginning, I was just taking the
logs offered from the "Transcription" tab or "My Pages". Are the
logs offered there randomly selected or is there some priority scheme at
work? I would be please to move to the most critical need.
Otherwise, I'll just stay with Albatross (even if it seems to stay in
dry dock a lot and needs an AA chapter). I'm at your
service!! Ron
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HHTime Ron, we have a continuum of transcribers. At one end,
they love doing the history (or at least reading it) and stick with a
slow ship because they have come to like it and her crew (and her log
keeper's handwriting has become comfortable to read.) At the other
end, you have the ones that get true joy out of "keeping score" and
keeping track of exactly how many are still to go. Organizing as a
team makes them feel good. And of course those in the middle that
share a bit of both.
We moderators want those at both ends to
enjoy this project, want both types to have room for their fun.
Look at the choices between joining a team or just staying in a stable
ship you know, and go in the direction that would give you the most
pleasure.
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In
the beginning, I was just taking the logs offered from the
"Transcription" tab or "My Pages". Are the logs offered there
randomly selected or is there some priority scheme at work?
They are randomly selected.
I
would be please to move to the most critical need. Otherwise,
I'll just stay with Albatross (even if it seems to stay in dry dock a
lot and needs an AA chapter). I'm at your service!! Ron
We
have just recently learned that the Smithsonian is interested in
Albatross's logs, so staying with Albatross works out very well indeed!
Dry dock none too dry? ;)
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Oh yes, the Albatross certainly isn't the most riveting of ships! It
often sat in port for long times when funding wasn't available, or when
the missions that were funded weren't suited to the season. For
example, inspecting salmon fisheries when Alaskan waters are frozen over
and the workers have retreated to warmer climes wouldn't be very
productive!
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Not very "riveting". Oh, yes, both ways; but the west coast is
really clustered with unusual anchorages. Recently read historic
novels by Kim Robinson and Stephen Baxter about the less known and
rather complex human exploration and immigration of the west coast of
this hemisphere pre-Europian.
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My mom worked for the Makah tribe (a very long time ago) at the
northwest tip of Washington, and they always were active traders.
Canoes with 12 to 20 paddlers traded goods all up and down the
coast. The Makah were using Spanish glass beads on their clothing
decorations a century before any white traders discovered they
existed. Very complex tribal relationships. :)
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Currently transcribing the Albatross around June 1901. For
a while I was feeling sympathy for the crew of the Albatross, always in
gloomy weather, seemingly in an aimless "various courses" through the
BC and Alaskan coastal archipelago -- terrible pay, always wet.
BUT Every comment page has party taking a dinghy or steam launch
for "exploration" of streams for hunting and seining. Do you know
how much they charge now days for that privilege? What an
incredible adventure and being paid to do it!
PS I
have been hopelessly using Google Map to help with place names,
especially waterways and historically obscure sites. Started using
Mapcarta and have had success almost every time; it
does a much better job guessing bad spellings and seems to be designed
for in situ historical exploration.
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You may also wish to look at / add to our Geographical Help board. Best place to start is the index, Welcome to the world of eXtreme transcribing! (http://forum.oldweather.org/index.php?topic=3637.0)
The
Alaskan, Canadian and US (non-Alaskan) reference posts and discussion
posts are probably going to be very helpful - and your adding new ports
and sightings would also be very helpful.
And that coast and its
islands is astonishingly beautiful with very mild altho wet
weather. When I visited my mom there, they were calling anything
over 80F a once-a-year heat wave, and didn't know that the ground
usually froze to depth of more than 2 feet that far north.
Absolutely gorgeous. I'll take gentle rain 5 days out of 6 to
blizzards and below-0F any day. :)
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Geographical Names (http://www.geographic.org/geographic_names/index.html) remains my favorite, but I like Mapcarta too.
Coast Survey's Historical Map & Chart Collection (http://historicalcharts.noaa.gov/) is also good on the historical side.
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JanetET-S passes the 1500 mark!
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HHTime Ron passes the 1000 mark!
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You may also wish to look at / add to our Geographical Help board. Best place to start is the index, Welcome to the world of eXtreme transcribing! (http://forum.oldweather.org/index.php?topic=3637.0)
The
Alaskan, Canadian and US (non-Alaskan) reference posts and discussion
posts are probably going to be very helpful - and your adding new ports
and sightings would also be very helpful.
The majority of Albatross locations should be on there - I entered quite a lot!
I
also charted the locations, and you can find the map for 1900/1901
here: https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B3d0C_0MNAaIZWktX2Z5LXRVbDQ/edit
(If
you download the file and open it with Google Earth, you'll be able to
hide certain sections of the voyage, making it easier to navigate!)
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Just enlarge the google map - when you click on any of his markers,
you see the log description for that sighting. A superb map for
the voyage. :)
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And the marker shape indicates the type of entry - sailing, docked, or (later on) dredging.
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Wow, thanks for the other map sources!
Janet, you
lucky dog. A cruise up the coast has always been on my bucket list after
I spent two years (three winters) in Fairbanks. The country is
extraordinary; but the real adventure is meeting the people who chose to
live there! Sarah Palin is well within three standard deviations
-- simply no definition except fiercely different. You caught me
enjoying OW, once again.
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;D
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Welcome to the top twelve Hurlock!
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There are some strange barometer readings on this page. A big
jump in the reading between midnight the day before and the 1am reading
as well as the obviously wrong 4am reading. I have transcribed
them as written but i wonder if the readings before 4am are .1 high
which would fit the written log descriptions.
http://oldweather.org/transcriptions/55369385c3a6f821c8000747/edit
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Strange indeed - and correctly transcribed as written.
Yes, the first 3 could well be .1 inch high.
Most
people cannot see the edit-links, so when you post a comment or
question about a page is is generally best to give the jpg-link. For the
page in question, this is:
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Albatross/vol039of055/vol039of055_014_0.jpg
See: Posting Links and Images (A Guide) (http://forum.oldweather.org/index.php?topic=536.0)
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Hi, Hurlock, welcome to the forum!!
First, the answer in
general to all such jumps for the run of pressures is easy: TWYS
and post it here so we can notify Philip. Which you did
perfectly. For single wrongly written readings, just TWYS and
don't worry. The super-computers that our data gets fed to kick
out (http://blog.oldweather.org/2011/03/31/better-than-the-defence/) all
those out for human analysts to see and fix. :)
And please
continue to ask questions - we like answering and supporting each
other, and asking simple questions is in my opinion the most intelligent
way to learn anything.
In answer to your specific question:
Only
the mentors and mods can read your 'edit' link, the rest need to see
the page's jpg link. (See Posting Links and Images (A Guide)
(http://forum.oldweather.org/index.php?topic=536.0) )
The 2 pages involved are:
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Albatross/vol039of055/vol039of055_013_0.jpg (6 March 1904)
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Albatross/vol039of055/vol039of055_014_0.jpg (the offered link)
The 3am-4am-5am error (30.08 - 30.98 - 29.98) will automatically be found and dealt with.
I
do not understand what overall jump you are talking about. Is it
possible your pages are "leapfrogging"? Meaning if several
volunteers are all taking turns being the third transcriber, you
sometimes skip the pages done by others. And this can lead to
apparently violent changes in readings, the kind that happen gradually
over 2 or 3 days.
11pm-Mid.(the 6th)-1am-2am (the 7th) as I read them are:
30.00
- 30.00 - 30.10 - 30.09 before diving down into the 29.90s. I may
be wrong, but I don't see that as anything the computer will not spot
and correct automatically.
Hi Randi, you beat me to it. :)
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Hi Janet - I think he is refering to the jump from 30.00 on the 6'th to 30.10 on the 7'th rather than leapfrogging.
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I read his "... as well as ..." separating 2 problems. I could be wrong. :)
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I think you've had the very bad luck to have picked up one of the
few cases where the barometer readings on the Albatross are obviously
incorrect! The crew are usually quite good, excluding the occasional
case of going 30.00-30.99-29.98, or 29.99-29.00-30.01 (which you've also
got on this page!).
I think that the early part of 1904 does
have more errors than usual - my suspicion is that several inexperienced
men ended up taking the weather measurements, as the ship had been
relatively inactive for a couple of years.
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The logs are generally very clear. One difference I have
noticed is that in logs 1901 the ship has a commander in charge
and lieutenants take the logs. In 1904 the ship is run by a
lieutenant and boatswains take the logs.
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Currently working the Spring of 1904 in and around San Diego.
Have been entering named locations such as Cabral Banks; but the log has
considerably more detail regarding specific dredging stations as well
as depths. Whether for the Weather Observations or other science,
are these detailed station and/or depth entries worthy of capture to
someone?
I know, it's all possibly valuable somewhere,
sometime, and that it is an individual judgement as to how much detail
we transcribe outside of the weather observations. IO'm just
not sure in this case how deep (literally and figuratively) I want to
go in San Diego? For instance, if some of the team has already
parsed these data sufficiently well, I would feel more useful moving
lightly over daily locations during this part of the voyage where the
distances are relatively small. Ron
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Hurlock passes the 500 mark!
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I am in a similar quandary to HHtime Ron with regards the dredging
details. I assume they are collecting specimens in the dredges so
it might be of some interest. Recording the station numbers as
positions - or should it be events?
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I would probably not bother recording dredging stations.
The important information should be with the specimens.
If you do want to record the stations for position, I guess Place Name would be best.
On the other hand, if you want to record that they were dredging, Events is probably better.
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First, I have it from our National Archives assigned archivist,
Mark, that the Smithsonian still owns the field notebooks of the
scientists who took the samples from the dredging and most of the
samples taken, although only the dredge settings records seem to be
online. They know of our transcriptions being done, and are very
interested in getting our logs to be correlated with their current
collection. This is the only Fish Commission ship in our OW fleet, so
there won't be any others to send them.
So the location of the
dredge and everything else associated will be seen as quite
helpful. I'm uncertain whether that counts as event or location or
both - transcribers' choice I think. But if I was putting it in
location, I definitely would include depth as well as section as part of
the location name.
And like all non-weather comments, it is optional.
True need is for only on transcriber, and even that will be
supplemented because any scientists using our data will have access to
the page scan.
Randi just beat me to an answer; but
Randi, the specimens - or even if there are any specimens taken by the
dredge - are not recorded in the ship's log. All of that is
somewhere in the field notes.
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but Randi, the specimens - or even if there are any specimens taken by the dredge - are not recorded in the ship's log. All of that is somewhere in the field notes.
That is my point. The location information should be with the specimens. So, I don't think it is necessary to record it here.
:-\
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I just sent Mark an email to ask what the Smithsonian is interested in ;)
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I agree the location should be
with the specimens. I just wish I believed it to be consistently
true. Have you played with the new Orchid Observers
(http://www.orchidobservers.org/)? Museum specimens, every one of
them. Major problems with including location and full date.
;)
By the way, that is a very easy transcription - just
checking and amending what is already in their database. (And yes,
whoever did the original digitization left things out.)
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;D
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OK. I hear that the scientists interested in the dredging and
depth information are well aware of the Albatross activities as our
first dedicated Fisheries Research Vessel and have access to the
detailed sampling data, which probably includes station
locations. Therefore, if the station locations are not of value
for the weather-side, I am concluding that for me recording these
station "occupations" is of marginal interest. Thanks for the
discussion. Ron
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You are welcome. Please handle all non-weather in a way that pleases you. :)
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Jumping in a bit late, the dredging location info in the logs is
often quite sparse - at later dates, they tend to just list the dredging
stations visited in a watch, which can be dozens of miles from the last
recorded location, as position isn't often recorded between the start
and end of dredging (which might be 10 hours!). I haven't made any
special effort to record dredging locations, and they get a bit boring
after a while!
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Then skip them. The care and feeding of OUR volunteers is more important than "maybe wanted" anything. :)
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Mark
passed your question on to me. We do want to add links to the
Smithsonian field records and other Albatross related material, but this
will be easier done in the editing phase. There are metadata already
composed in tables and suitable for OCR, so no need to transcribe.
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Hurlock passes the 750 and 1000 marks!
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Well I think that calls for two rounds of applause!
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This log entry got me curious...
April 23rd 1904
Commanding officer went ashore and recovered the Pt. Pinos Astron. Stn.
There is already mention of it in this thread pg 19.
The
astronomical station appears on maps as a triangulation point and is
near but seperate from the Pt Pinos lighthouse. As far as I can
tell it was set up when the coast was surveyed in the 1850s and a few
astronomical readings were taken at that time on the shape of the earth
and the deviation of gravity from the vertical. This is what might
have been there at the time
These observatories would have been equipped with three key instruments.
First, a horizontal circle consists of a telescope mounted on the radius of a
circle, so that the angular distance between two objects can be determined, for
the purpose of triangulation; often a sextant is mounted on a pillar to perform
this function. Second, a meridian instrument of a portable type, used to
determine longitude by noting the time of meridian passage of known stars. Third,
a zenith telescope, to determine latitude to a precision beyond what can be
obtained by sighting Polaris.
I
cannot see any of this being in place 50 yrs later. I wonder if
recover, in this case, means restore to function as a triangulation
point. The area is thickly forested - maybe it was being obscured
by trees. There is no mention of visiting the nearby Pt Pinos
Lighthouse - which at the time had one of the few female lighthouse
keepers. But the log of the day is uncharacteristically poor with
omissions, crossings out, and familiar words spelled wrong.
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Here is the link to the earlier mention: http://forum.oldweather.org/index.php?topic=3966.msg101439;topicseen#msg101439 ;)
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Astronomic stations meant enough telescopes, etc. to precisely
measure by astronomic bodies exact latitude, longitude and elevation -
which do not remain stable, the land does shift a little. Pt.
Pinos was a geodetic primary triangulation point for the USGS in the San
Francisco area. I think "recovered" meant retrieving the
instruments.
http://www.cartographicarts.com/catalog.html?cat=antique_maps&id=49
PULGAS BASE. U.S. Coast Survey. 1854.
...
Base
lines are prepared for long surveys and for difficult to reach areas
requiring precise triangulation. This one is approximately 6 ? miles
long and was laid out in San Francisco County. The map includes a
profile of the base line showing the elevation varied from 5.3 feet to
127.28 feet.
The triangulation conducted later based on this base
line covered San Francisco bay and its dependencies, extending north to
Ballenas Bay, and south to Monterey, a distance of about eighty-five
miles. The triangulation connected the astronomical stations of San
Francisco, Santa Cruz, and Point Pinos, and determined the position of
all the principal towns from Benicia to Monterey, and the light-houses
in that area.
...
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Flynt
Welcome to the top 12 !
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07/05/1904
Field Day.
Its 111yrs ago today and the crew of
the Albatross are having a field day! In US Navy terms this means
having a cleaning day but it sounds as if it is a lighter than usual
day for the crew as most days in port are cleaning days. Hence the
saying.
The Commanding officer is also off on a jaunt to 'occupy
lighthouse at Point Pinos'. No sign of his return as yet but it
was quite foggy for a while.
Regarding the Pt Pinos lighthouse:
The
most famous lightkeeper was Mrs. Emily Fish, who served from 1893 to
1914. She was called the "Socialite Keeper" due to her love of
entertaining guests at the lighthouse.
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That's really interesting! Love the lighthouse story! :D
Is it 8th May that you're looking at?:
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Albatross/vol039of055/vol039of055_077_1.jpg
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Sorry
07/05/1904
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Albatross/vol039of055/vol039of055_076_1.jpg
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I am reading Two Years Before the Mast, and we just passed Point Pinos!
It is 1835 and at this point it still belongs to Mexico.
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The random jaunts to various locations are indeed for triangulation
purposes. The Albatross undertook a very detailed survey of Monterey
Bay, and several new triangulation stations were be set up to assist in
determining the exact location of the ship. Having been through the
survey locations, they managed an incredibly regular grid across the
entire bay!
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They refer to these triangulation points as survey signals and in this page talk about hunting for signals
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Albatross/vol039of055/vol039of055_067_1.jpg
Could
they have been trying to set these survey points up with some kind of
secondary communication purpose. I cannot find any later reference
to these points so I do not think they were sucessful.
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I found a list of old abandoned survey signals and can't find it in
my bookmarks now - I'll see if I can track it down. It was very
interesting. It certainly implied that some were built and lost
relatively quickly. :D
This article is very interesting (but not yet the list that I want to find ::))
http://www.ngs.noaa.gov/PUBS_LIB/geodetic_survey_1807.html
This is not what I was looking for but this is REALLY interesting:
The
GNIS is referenced in the Geographical reference page for non-Alaskan
US place names under the list of useful maps etc at the very top
of the thread.
http://geonames.usgs.gov/apex/f?p=136:3:0::NO::P3_FID,P3_TITLE:253913,Soquel%20Point
and select 'decision card'..wow! Finding these old docs always amazes
me :D
Also in that thread (
http://forum.oldweather.org/index.php?topic=3653.msg63694#msg63694 ):
Aha! Found the thing I remembered - a list of trig points:
National Geodetic Survey (NGS) DATASHEET RETRIEVAL PAGE - Thanks to T-M!
Also the tidal station locations book mentioned in that same thread is good. :D
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The thing is, all trig points will have to be checked and approved
every year that area was re-surveyed because the earth does move,
especially in earthquake prone areas like California. Finding the
old signals and setting up new ones must be SOP.
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My suspicion has always been that they were re-using survey points
from the large-scale surveys of the West Coast which happened in the
latter half of the 1800s, but had been disused once the surveys were
completed.
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That makes sense.
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NOAA history contains 'The Autobiography of James S Lawson' and has info on setting up the astronomical stations.
This extract is for one on Point Conception but I expect they all involve a similar process
In
a few days we became somewhat domesticated, had built the observatory
on the plateau above the valley, and the instruments (transit and zenith
telescope) were in position. All this meant work; everything, lumber,
instruments, &c. had to be carried up the steep face of the plateau.
The hardest part of all was the carrying of the stand of the transit.
This was one piece of cast iron, weighing at least 300 lbs. Davidson
& I got it on our shoulders, it was so short that we had to walk in a
"lock step"; the utmost care was necessary that no false or mis-step
should be made; and we did not dare to stop or rest until we reached the
Observatory.
These extracts for the Point Pinos Astronomical station
Our
trip or rather attempted one, was rather unpleasant. We started with a
S.E. wind, which increased to a gale, and drove us back in a somewhat
dilapidated condition, having lost boats, anchor and chain, and broken
the fore-gaff. We returned to port, crossing the bar through breakers,
fortunately without any mishap there. We remained in San F. until Jan
1st 1851, and then left on the Propeller Carolina, Capt. Dick Whiting.
On our arrival at Monterey, there being no wharf, the steamer was run
alongside of an old hulk, at anchor, the Nueva (or Buena?) Fortuna, to
which all our instruments, camp equipage and stores were transferred,
and left in charge of our crew.
The
next morning while we were dressing (all our party occupied one large
room), Mr. Davidson was laying out the plans of work for the day, in
midst of which one of our men came in with the startling news that the
old hulk had sunk in the night! Of course visions of lost instruments,
tents, stores, everything, flashed instantaneously through our minds,
and the fellow seemed to enjoy our distress for a while; then leisurely
he told us that all the instruments, and most valuable part of equipage
was saved
The next day a site for camp
was selected at edge of the woods about half a mile East of Pt. Pinos.
The observatory was erected, and instruments mounted. These were the
same as used at Pt. Conception, viz: -- transit instrument for
determination of Time and Longitude, and the Zenith Telescope for
Latitude. These operations were conducted by Mr. Davidson with Mr.
Rockwell as Aid. The topographical work was executed by Mr. Harrison,
with myself as Aid, using the planetable. On this survey, and from
personal examinations of the localities, Mr. D. presented a report in
regard to the location of a Light House.
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Greetings fellow OWaholic!
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Fabulous description, parts of it made me slightly sea sick - thank you!!!
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Greetings fellow OWaholic!
;D
Loved
the story - you never see this sort of thing in this day and age. Yet
back then the coast was littered with hefty sailors lugging construction
signal gubbins around :)
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3am to 6am water temperatures should be 57 rather than 47 I think
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Albatross/vol039of055/vol039of055_104_0.jpg
Transcribed as written in the log
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Yes to both ;)
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Hurlock passes the 1500 mark!
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Well done!!! ;D ;D
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15th June 1904 and the Albatross has finally left Monterey Bay for
San Franscisco. She is anchored in the same spot where a freighter
collided with her 18 months past. The news report is quite
humerous.
December 17, 1902, San Francisco Call
ALBATROSS HAS A NARROW ESCAPE IN COLLISION WITH NEBRASKAN
Strong Ebb Tide Sweeps Freighter Against Government Vessel Which Sustains Damage Estimated at About $2000
THE
strong ebb tide of yesterday afternoon swept the big freighter
Nebraskan against the United States Fish Commission steamship Albatross
and damaged the Government boat to the extent of about $2000.
The
Nebraskan had left her dock at Sleuart-street wharf and her skipper,
Captain Greene, was trying to get his vessel straightened out for the
Golden Gate when the accident happened. The tide was exceptionally high
yesterday and at 4 o'clock, when the Nebraskan left her dock, was
running out with terrific force.
As the Nebraskan backed into the
stream the tide carried her down until she was opposite Folsom street,
but still headfny toward Mission Bay. Captain Gieene got headway on his
vessel and after passing the Albatross, which is anchored off Harrison
street, steered a course across the bow of the Fish Commission vessel.
Out where the Albatross lay the tide was running considerably swifter
than it was inshore and if Captain Greene did not notice this he was the
only navigator in that part of the bay that overlooked it and failed to
make proper allowance.
The Nebraskan was swept against the
Albatross and but for the prompt action of those aboard the Government
craft in giving their vessel more chain the United States Fish
Commission would have lost a most, valuable ship. As it was, the big
freighter snapped off the bowsprit of the Albatross and with all the
force of her enormous weight tore through all obstructions attached to
and projecting from the starboard side of the anchored vessel. A wherry
hanging on the forward davits was badly shattered and the iron davits
were strained and twisted beyond repair. The first cutter, lying at the
boom, was smashed to matchwood and the starboard gangway reduced to a
pulp.
Nobody was hurt and the Nebraskan saved from injury by the
stoutness of her lofty steel side, proceeded on her way to Honolulu. On
the Albatross they deplore the accident, estimate the damage at $2000
and express the "wish that the Nebraskan had tackled something nearer
her size; had tried, for instance, to cross the bow of the battleship
Wisconsin, which was all ready to receive runaway freighters just a
little farther down the bay.
Captain Greene was only recently
promoted to the command of the Nebraskan. The damage to the Albatross
will be paid for by the American-Hawaiian Steamship Company, which will
collect three-quarters of the amount from the underwriters.
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Captain Greene doesn't seem to have any friends at the San Francisco Call :-X
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Being the captain of the only ship which had not researched the tides in the Bay is not going to make many friends anywhere.
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What a fantastic story! I love the smash-and-run Capt Greene
Unbelievable.
I mean $2000 must have been an awful of of money in those days.
So - Hurlock - it's drydock for you for days and days and days and days... ;) ;) ;D
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Captain Greene doesn't seem to have any friends at the San Francisco Call :-X
And
the Albatross was actually a pretty popular ship - the locals seem to
have regarded it as "their" special scientific research vessel!
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Captain Greene doesn't seem to have any friends at the San Francisco Call :-X
And
the Albatross was actually a pretty popular ship - the locals seem to
have regarded it as "their" special scientific research vessel!
:o :o :o I wonder if Capt Greene ever came back to San Fran? ;D
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Captain Greene doesn't seem to have any friends at the San Francisco Call :-X
And
the Albatross was actually a pretty popular ship - the locals seem to
have regarded it as "their" special scientific research vessel!
:o :o :o I wonder if Capt Greene ever came back to San Fran? ;D
I wonder if Captain Greene had go searching for a new employer!!
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The
damage to the Albatross will be paid for by the American-Hawaiian
Steamship Company, which will collect three-quarters of the amount from
the underwriters.
I wonder where the other quarter came from ;)
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Hurlock passes the 2000 mark!
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Great work!
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7/7/1904
No figures recorded in the table for am after the wet bulb reading
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Albatross/vol039of055/vol039of055_137_0.jpg
Lots of crossings out in the log over the next couple of days as they are obviously writing them up a few days later
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Albatross/vol039of055/vol039of055_137_1.jpg
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The first one is easy - TWYS and if the boxes are empty, type nothing. No comments needed.
One
the second one, TWYS assumes all corrections made at the same time the
log was written are the valid thing to be transcribed. Those
crossed out paragraphs should definitely be skipped. (Almost all
changes/additions made by others after the log was finished are in red
or blue colored pencil.)
We are usually seeing the "clean" logs -
recopied neatly sometime that same month from the "rough" logs that
have all the scribbles and messiness and multiple handwritings you'd
expect of an active ongoing log. I'm thinking the writer who was
doing the copying had the wrong pages open in front of him and
completely blew it the day he did all those entries. The single
line cross out that leaves the errors readable is naval standard
procedure. If nothing can be removed for simply copying mistakes,
no one can remove something to cover up their problems and be believed.
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Force 8 winds
The Yacht Chispa parted her moorings and drifted down the Bay, but was towed to safety by the steam launch of this vessel
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Albatross/vol039of055/vol039of055_160_1.jpg
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Good on ya' Albatross - a few hero points for you today! :D :D :D
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Hurlock passes the 3000 mark!
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well done Hurlock - good on'ya :D :D :D
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24/08/1904
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Albatross/vol039of055/vol039of055_185_1.jpg
Record of barometer reading left out after 8p.m., on account of fresh paint in the pilot house.
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At least you know they weren't just being sloppy. :)
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HHTime Ron passes the 2000 mark!
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At least you know they weren't just being sloppy. :)
The painters were a bit sloppy with the floor paint as it is 27/8/1904 before the readings start again.
This
memorable day the Albatross also gets a new executive officer and a has
a new 'Lieut.U.S.N., Executive Officer' stamp for the log book.
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Changes are happening. 8)
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4th Sept 1904
Fair, warm and clear overhead with fog coming into the harbor through the Golden Gate.
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Albatross/vol039of055/vol039of055_196_1.jpg
Conjures up an evocative image - then I had to remove the bridge from it!
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The Albatross caught a mention in the San Francisco Call
(http://cdnc.ucr.edu/cgi-bin/cdnc?a=d&d=SFC19040811.2.26.21&e=-04-1904-----en--20--41-byDA-txt-txIN-Albatross------)
on 11 August 1904, as marine scientists started getting ready for the
next expedition:
Dr. Agassiz of Harvard University has extended an Invitation to
Professor C. A. Kofoed to join him in an expedition into the Pacific
Ocean in search of marine specimens of animal life. The party will leave
San Francisco on the Fish Commission steamer Albatross October 1 and
visit during the expedition Panama, the Galapagos Islands, Callas,
Easter Island and Acapulco before returning to San Francisco.
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Whatever the naval equivalent of a car boot sale is, the Albatross
had one on 29 August 1904
(http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Albatross/vol039of055/vol039of055_190_1.jpg):
1000 lbs of junk sold and sent ashore
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I suspect they sold it as one bulk lot to a junk dealer, who then
had a field day sorting it out and either delivering it as steel scrap
to a mill and /or holding a prime time junk sale of their own. :)
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Hi Danny.
You are currently 5 days ahead of me.
(This is NOT a race challenge as I am only doing the WRs)
Stuart.
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Whatever
the naval equivalent of a car boot sale is, the Albatross had one on 29
August 1904
(http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Albatross/vol039of055/vol039of055_190_1.jpg):
1000 lbs of junk sold and sent ashore
That's an impressive clear out! I wonder what new junk goodies went on board to replace that lot? ;D
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Whatever
the naval equivalent of a car boot sale is, the Albatross had one on 29
August 1904
(http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Albatross/vol039of055/vol039of055_190_1.jpg):
1000 lbs of junk sold and sent ashore
Junk
is also any remnants or pieces of old cable, or condemned rope, cut
into small portions for the purpose of making points, mats, swabs,
gaskets, sinnet, oakum, and the like
:-\
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pommystuart (Pommy Stuart) passes the 5000 mark!
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Hurlock passes the 4000 mark!
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Hi Danny.
You are currently 5 days ahead of me.
(This is NOT a race challenge as I am only doing the WRs)
Stuart.
No
race challenge taken - Hurlock's only a few days ahead too! It's not
too hard for me to use the image links to catch up on events if I miss a
day or three.
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I've updated the Voyage map to June 1904 - and hence, due to the lack of movement, all the way to October!
Link: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B3d0C_0MNAaIZWktX2Z5LXRVbDQ/view
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I do like your maps. 8)
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12th September 1904
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Albatross/vol039of055/vol039of055_204_0.jpg
Barometer sent ashore for adjustment. No readings after 1pm.
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Thursday 8th September 1904
(http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Albatross/vol039of055/vol039of055_200_0.jpg)
- the log records a sweltering peak temperature of 103 F (40 C) in San
Francisco Bay! This is still the record temperature for September in San
Francisco, and is only slightly below the all-time record of 103 F,
according to http://ggweather.com/sf/temp1.html
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Barometer readings restart on the 17th September 1904
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Albatross/vol039of055/vol039of055_210_0.jpg
Then the ship has a ride on the marine railway into dry dock 19th September 1904. So no water temperature readings now.
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Albatross/vol039of055/vol039of055_211_0.jpg
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Hello from USS Concord, 18 Feb 1902
(http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Concord/vol031of040/vol031of040_086_1.jpg)
8 AM to Meridian: Fish Commission Str. Albatross came out of drydock and stood out of Mare Island Strait.
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http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Albatross/vol039of055/vol039of055_216_1.jpg
"A T Igleharte, Sea, to CP, from this date, by his own request."
I've
never seen someone request a change in rating before! Obviously the
officers had no objection, but certainly something a little different.
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Anchored off Sausalito, California, and Making passage to Panama, Republic of Panama
Adventure time!
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I'm doing the 1888 logs, and she's been taking a really long trip:
From Washington down South through the Caribbean, down the Brazilian
coast with a stop in Bahia, through the Straits of Magellan (took quite a
while!), up north past Chile to Panama, and now (April 1888) she's
going past Mexico and heading for California.
Now that's an adventure!
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http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Albatross/vol039of055/vol039of055_216_1.jpg
"A T Igleharte, Sea, to CP, from this date, by his own request."
I've
never seen someone request a change in rating before! Obviously the
officers had no objection, but certainly something a little different.
From the USNI News
Coal
heavers came into service in 1842 and hauled coal from a ship?s bunker
to the boiler furnaces. A coal heaver could make up to 50 trips a day
with a full bucket weighing about 140 pounds. Since it was hot, dirty
and dangerous work, the members of the ?black gang? received
substantially higher pay than other sailors. In 1893, the rating was
changed to the less strenuous sounding (but probably equally
backbreaking and dirty) coal passer. The duties were incorporated into
the rating of fire 3c in 1917
Probably still not a popular job so maybe the captain would be glad of any requests to do this task.
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Makes sense - thanks!
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The higher pay might also be a factor!
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From 1904-10-10, the Albatross seems to have started using fractions
of arcminutes instead of arcseconds for lon/lat, e.g. 22 41.3N, 109
58.1W. It took me a while to figure out quite what was going on!
See e.g. http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Albatross/vol039of055/vol039of055_232_0.jpg
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I have seen that too ::)
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On 9th October 1904 they seem to do the last of the four position
readings as decimals although it is less than crystal clear how they
record this. Four position readings! Never seen this before on the
Albatross. Only a week into a new Captain as well.
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Albatross/vol039of055/vol039of055_231_0.jpg
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That is the page before Danny's ;D
Transcribe them as he did.
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So, we are to convert tenths of minutes to seconds, following the preference rule regarding fractions?
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No, here please TWYS: http://forum.oldweather.org/index.php?topic=3191.msg51629#msg51629
Just a little something to keep Philip out of mischief ;)
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Albatross/vol039of055/vol039of055_233_0.jpg
Noon observed is 22 41.3N and 109 58.1W
(The numbers are what Danny posted, the link is different)
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10-4 :)
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vol039of055_236_0.jpg (http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Albatross/vol039of055/vol039of055_236_0.jpg)
Three
consecutive weather pages including this one have weather codes "bcl"
or maybe "bch"; but the log description never mentions lightening or
hail. Thought maybe he meant "blue sky/ clear", which should be "b". Anyway, I TWIS. :o
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Looks like bcl to me, when you compare it with the l's in the location description at the top of the page.
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I think it looks more like his small 'h' - which is frequently
mis-used by log keepers to mean haze. Go on TWYS - the scientists
will figure it out.
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I have been transcribing them as l even though there is no mention
of lightning in the logs. No mention of hail either in this hot
weather. I have only seen them use m or f for reduced visibility
in the logs.
The first position reading of this day is puzzling.
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Albatross/vol039of055/vol039of055_238_0.jpg
The position marker for the ship is in the middle of the mountains in mexico. No mention of this either.
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;D
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The first position reading of this day is puzzling.
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Albatross/vol039of055/vol039of055_238_0.jpg
The position marker for the ship is in the middle of the mountains in mexico. No mention of this either.
Either someone swapped a 4 for a 6, or they did some really, really bad dead reckoning overnight!
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Transcribe all errors and stupidities - even when they say they are
sailing 120 miles inland. The scientists and editors will get to
fix that. ;)
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Hurlock passes the 5000 mark!
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Awesome! Good on'ya Hurlock!
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HHTime Ron passes the 3000 mark!
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Thanks HHTime Ron.
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Good going HHTime Ron!
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kimma001
Welcome to the top 12 !
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vol040of055_024_1.jpg
(http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Albatross/vol040of055/vol040of055_024_1.jpg)
(November 18, 1904)
For several days now, the Albatross has been
logging ship time adjustments just after the noon observations of 8 or
10 minutes (ahead). Adjusting the clocks after the noon
observation is SOP, forever; but, this is the first time in this voyage
that such adjustments were in the main ship's log; and these are rather
large! Maybe its the magnitude of the adjustments that is
warranting a log entry? Nothing has changed in the crew structure
including the logging officer that would suggest a new routine item
being introduced. If this is an unusual error adjustment, I would
also post this to the instrument thread.
I recall a detailed
description in the Aubry/Maturin Novels about them carrying three
chronometers in circa 1800 line-of-battle ships (two in frigates),
maintaining a separate log showing the apparent times of all three
clocks and the drift of each at every noon observation. Then there was a
process for determining official ship's time for DR position entries,
which became the subject of fearful speculation after several days
without a noon sighting while rounding The Horn in foul weather and
heavy seas. I can't imagine that this would be necessary in 1904,
and I would pitch any 20th century clock that was drifting 8 to 10
minutes a day! ???
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I recall a mention somewhere of setting the clocks to the local noon. Perhaps that is what they are doing here?
We
convert all the observation dates and times to Coordinated Universal
Time (UTC) - this is the scientific standard time and will let us
compare oldweather data to anything else. We're not trying to be precise
down to the second, so effectively this is just converting all the
dates and times to Greenwich Mean Time. This process gets rid of the
peculiarities in local ship time caused when crossing the date line.
To
do this conversion we have to know the time-zone being used by the
ship, and this can be tricky as standard nautical time-zones were not
introduced until the 1920s. But ships a have a long tradition of
resetting their clocks to local solar time at noon so the uncertainty in
time zone is generally small.
Philip
Also: http://forum.oldweather.org/index.php?topic=3698.msg97107#msg97107
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The reasoning for carrying multiple chronometers is actually a
rather simple solution to a pretty complicated problem, and you're both
correct as to what, exactly, is going on here.
The ship's clock
would, by necessity, be changed pretty much daily, after the noon
observation, to set the ship's clock to the local noon. This is
necessary to establish longitude for the following day as accurately as
possible (and depending on latitudinal travel, can require some pretty
hefty adjustments, as the sun's altitude can vary by a fairly large
amount, given sufficient distance between observations)
I
probably don't actually *need* to explain this, but I'm going to for
those who may have never seen an explanation of how to calculate
longitude, and thus may have never fully appreciated why maritime
navigation prior to the advent of GPS was so incredibly hard to do with
precision.
Calculating longitude requires comparing the time
between a specific point (in this case, noon Greenwich Mean Time,
although if you're not worried about standarization, it can literally be
anywhere) and the local time, using two extremely accurate clocks. We
know that at the equator, the earth is 21,640.6 nautical miles in
circumference, which, divided into 360 degrees, breaks down to 60.113
nautical miles per degree of longitude (at the equator). We also know
that the sun goes through all 360? in 24 hours (well, 23 hours, 56
minutes, 4 seconds, but saying that this makes the math more difficult
is a pretty significant understatement). Extrapolating from this, we
know that there is a direct relationship between the arc of the sun and
time, such that 1 minute of time = 15 minutes of arc (through direct
observation, the sun moves 15? in one hour, 1? in 4 minutes, 15' per
minute, 1' per 4 seconds). Since the Greenwich Meridian is 0? (E/W,
similar to the Equator's 0? N/S), we can calculate longitude based on
the local time, simply by multiplying by 15 for each hour's difference
between local time and GMT. As an example, let's use Portland OR as an
example. At noon in Portland, it's 8PM GMT (traditionally, and for the
purposes of navigation, Daylight Time is ignored) or 8x15? which is
120?. Now, that's incredibly inaccurate, as it doesn't account for the
actual time difference (accounting only for the time zone Portland sits
in), but it's surprisingly close (Portland sits at 45? 40' 24.43"N by
122? 40' 34.35"W, making noon PST a few seconds after 8:02PM GMT).
Now
that the math is out of the way, the local time clock/chronometer
aboard the ship should be set to the local time immediately following
the noon observation in order to have a reasonable approximate
estimation for noon on the following day, but solar days (the passage of
time based on the position of the sun) can vary by rather large periods
of time, depending on time of the year, thanks to the Earth's axial
tilt and eccentricity of orbit. In both May and November, clocks appear
to be slower at keeping time than the observed time, which would require
that they be set ahead, while the opposite is true in the months of
February and June/July. Given that this is a ten minute adjustment, even
without the date listed, it would be a safe estimate of being from
mid-November (I would have guesstimated the 16th, which would have been
wrong, obviously, but 2 days is pretty reasonable for guesswork).
The
Aubry-Maturin novels, while very good, and surprisingly accurate in
general, don't really do a great job of explaining *why* they used
multiple chronometers. The bit about frigates using two chronometers is
actually patently false, as the general rule of thumb for navigators at
the time has led to the rather nautically famous old adage; "Never go to
sea with two chronometers, take one or three". The reasoning for this
is actually to provide redundancy in the event that one chronometer is
inaccurate, the other chronometer(s) when taken as a majority, give a
reasonable approximation for GMT (since local time is established based
on the position of the sun at the local noon). There are actually
numerous accounts of naval vessels taking as many chronometers as space
aboard would allow for, most notably the HMS Beagle, which carried 22
chronometers on its 2nd (and famously historic) expedition.
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Great explanation HatterJack but what happens when we add/subtract Leap Seconds?
By the way do you want to be on the OW persons map.
https://www.google.com/maps/d/edit?hl=en&authuser=0&mid=zaT-TbaJRxQk.k-KRsKq8dEyw
(https://www.google.com/maps/d/edit?hl=en&authuser=0&mid=zaT-TbaJRxQk.k-KRsKq8dEyw)
No need for accurate Lat/Long a name and a town will do.
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By all means, add me to the OW persons map :D
Adding and/or
subtracting (which we've never done) leap seconds wouldn't have much of
an effect on longitudinal calculations for three reasons. Reason 1: we
don't really even bother with the calculations anymore, now that GPS is a
thing. Reason 2: leap seconds weren't a thing when we were calculating
all this stuff out by hand. Reason 3: we add 1 second every 2 years to
account for the fact that a day isn't actually 24 hours, but 1 second of
rotation only works out to about 465 meters total (which in turn works
out to about a quarter of a nautical mile), and when figuring position
on a planet, if you're within hearing distance (you'd hear cannon fire
from that range at least), you're close enough.
Side note: I fudged my time reference, noon in Portland would be closer to 8:08PM GMT, not 8:02 (1 degree = 4 minutes)
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You're on the map HatterJack.
I love trying to get people to extend their knowledge to others.
Thanks.
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Thanks for the explanation! It adds so much to my readings. Don't you just love OW? Ron
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Thanks for the explanation! It adds so much to my readings. Don't you just love OW? Ron
I
came to OW from other Zooniverse projects, after my brain started
getting burned out by looking at light curves and particle trails, my
eyes got fuzzy after staring at galaxies light years away in amazingly
high resolution pictures that *still* made them look like hazy mud
puddles, and countless hours categorizing all of the various nooks and
crannies (and giant gaping holes) that make up the surface of the moon. I
stumbled across the Albatross (1884) first, and instantly got sucked
into the history of it all (as a giant naval history nerd) long before
it dawned on me how important the project itself actually is.
Once
it all clicked in my head, I pretty much abandoned the rest of the
Zooniverse, and OW has kind of become the most important project I work
on outside of my actual work (probably moreso than my actual work,
honestly, I do a lot of transcribing from my workstation ;) ). It's an
amazing combination of history, raw science, and home to one of the
greatest communities anywhere on the internet. While the sea
(particularly the north Pacific), will always be my home away from home
(or is home my home away from the sea?), OW is a great bridge between
the two (that I can work on from either, barring technical hiccups).
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:D :D :D
I know what you're feeling Hatterjack..and you're not alone here! It is just the best place to be in my book :D
You might even want to copy your message to one of our nicest threads:
http://forum.oldweather.org/index.php?topic=1432.0
I'm an addict. And I don't want to find a cure or take a cure. Just bring me more logs to do ;) ;) ;D
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Well, we have 'nough for meeting. Hi, my names Ron and I'm an OW addict :)
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;D
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;D ;D
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;D ;D ;D
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Hi, Ron!
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3rd December 1904 Callao, Peru
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Albatross/vol040of055/vol040of055_041_1.jpg
At 1.35 a severe shock of earthquake was felt on board the ship.
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This might be previously unrecorded... the only records I can find
of an earthquake in Peru during 1904 was at 05:17 on 4 March 1904,
centered near Lima, but pretty much levelled Callao and Chorrillos, but
this isn't an official source. I honestly can't find a single official
record of an earthquake in South America that year that would have been
sufficient to feel aboard a ship that wouldn't have caused a fair bit of
destruction to the city whose port she found herself anchored in.
The
USGS only has a single historical quake listed for 1904, and that was
in Greece, but they haven't publicly released any new information for
their historical database since 2012. Anyone with contacts with USGS
want to forward this find along?
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I tried googling for historic quakes at NOAA instead of USGS, since
the latter got me a site that had been discontinued, USC&GS now
being part of NOAA. I got this.
https://www.ngdc.noaa.gov/hazard/earthqk.shtml
Searching
their Global Significant Earthquake Database, 2150 B.C. to present is
remarkably detailed. I went for simple - broad date 1904-05 plus
South America region
Year
Mo Dy Hr Mn Sec Tsu
Vol Name
Lat
Long Depth Mag
1904 1 20 14 52 6.0 Tsu * PANAMA-COLOMBIA 7.000 -79.000 60
7.9
1904 11 1
11
* ECUADOR
-1.000 -80.500
7.7
Aside
from the scary record of a tsunami, neither the March 1904 nor the
December 1904 are on here, and I'm not sure who to contact. I'll
ask my volcano contacts and ask if they know.
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I'm not sure if this is the right place to put this, but I'm having a
little trouble with cloud codes in the Albatross' logs - should I TWYS
or should I make an educated guess about them? The thing is, they don't
quite match the ones on the Cloud Types
(http://forum.oldweather.org/index.php?topic=3003.0) or the ones
mentioned here (http://forum.oldweather.org/index.php?topic=3901.0), but
they are verrrry close e.g. S Cu, which is probably stratocumulus, and Cu N, which is probably cumulonimbus.
Thank you for your help!
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Just TWYS, no matter how weird it is. The scientists will figure it out - they're the experts.
If there is any doubt about which cloud type in the list to use, type exactly what the log keeper wrote.
For the record, S Cu and Cu N are quite common (I think). I've seen weirder ones.
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Type What You See, griddlesticks. Very hard at first for all
of us who want to get things right, but that is what the scientists
need. :)
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Hello again! Could I please have some help with the following?
"Received
28 tons fresh water for steaming purposes"
(http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Albatross/vol040of055/vol040of055_038_1.jpg)
(it's in the last watch) - what are "steaming purposes"? From what I
interpreted, I was tempted to put the water under the 'Refueling' tab
since the Albatross is a steamer, but was advised not to.
"Eng.
Dept." received "100 # Salt~ 1 bale Hay"
(http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Albatross/vol040of055/vol040of055_039_1.jpg)
- what does the Engineering Department need with salt and hay?
Thank you again!
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The salt and hay will have to be explained by a mariner. (We
do have several here on the forum, tho most of us are landlubbers.)
Steam
boilers cannot use sea water, the accumulating salt crystals would clog
all of the pipes and valves. They do have a distiller but that
requires fuel.
http://forum.oldweather.org/index.php?topic=1796.msg22027#msg22027
Rich information on everything used to sail a ship ing https://archive.org/stream/merchantmarinema00odonrich#page/138/mode/2up
From the OWpedia (http://forum.oldweather.org/index.php?topic=3209.msg52128#msg52128) ;):
Steam
engines require fresh water, as they can't use sea water because of the
corrosion. They do have distillation plants that can be used for
drinking water, but these do consume fuel, so a good skipper in rainy
climes will take any opportunity to add fresh water to his tanks, by
setting out canvas funnels, that feed straight into the fresh water
tanks. [dorbel]
[AND]
It's not only the corrosion. Salt water when
heated -- the water boils and the salt would be left. It would clog the
tubes in the boilers and either render the engine plugged an unusable
OR there could be enough pressure build up to explode the boiler!
[dmaschen]
[AND]
http://www.aandc.org/research/salt_in_marine_boilers.html [Janet Jaguar]
Randi
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I wondered if the Hay might be for the ships mascot. I have
seen pictures of a goat on board the ship with the scientists. No
log mentions though.
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That would make a great deal of sense. Feeding the mascot goes along with feeding the boilers? ;)
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I could see the commanding officer telling engineering to make sure
that the goat was well fed and cared for. Could be that he used the idea
that, just as the boilers power the ship's screws, the goat powered the
crew's morale.
As for the salt being given to engineering, that
was more than likely to clean the boilers. If I recall, the boilers
aboard Albatross were cast iron and brass, for the most part, and salt
is an incredibly effective cleaning agent. You can thoroughly clean cast
iron using nothing but salt, which removes the need for using
additional water, and it's pretty abrasive as well, so it's pretty good
at stripping off the gunk that can build up on the inside of a boiler.
It's also *very* good as a brass polish, when combined with vinegar and
flour to make a paste.
The cool thing about cleaning this way is
that it's about as environmentally friendly as possible, and far cheaper
than buying a bunch of chemicals (that probably didn't exist in 1904).
It's also very easy to use, and doesn't really require any training
other than being told that it works.
There may have been other
uses for the hay than feeding the goat, by the by, but I really wouldn't
be surprised if it turned out to be for that reason that the bale was
brought aboard.
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Do you just scrub the cast iron with the salt?
My mother did copper enameling, and I remember that she would clean the copper by soaking it in a mixture of salt and vinegar ;)
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A question came up about this page: http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Albatross/vol040of055/vol040of055_040_0.jpg
In the afternoon you can see a "/08" and a "/02" in the hour column.
In this
case they appear to relate only to readings of the patent log (on the
5pm line there are two entries) and the course steered (two entries on
the 5pm and 6pm lines). I was able to confirm this by looking ahead to
the corresponding events page
(http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Albatross/vol040of055/vol040of055_041_1.jpg).
So, since they do not apply to the weather data, you can ignore them ;D
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I have always entered these in case they were notes about precise WR
reading times. They do seem to be records of hour/minutes
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Hurlock passes the 6000 mark!
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Been moving the last couple days, so my apologies for the late reply, Randi.
Basically,
yes, just the raw salt on the cast iron. It'll remove all of the built
up sludge and corrosion without causing degradation of the iron. Mixing
it with anything else will end up oxidizing the iron, causing the
boilers to wear out and force dry dock repairs/replacement much earlier.
I'm sure that there are other chemical solutions out there, but rubbing
raw salt around cast iron with a piece of paper would has a track
record of efficacy stretching back centuries, and is considerably
cheaper than other means.
The salt and vinegar mixture for copper
enameling would have been done while afloat in addition to any boiler
cleaning, as a lot of the piping and ship trim would have been copper
and brass.
To this day, both of these methods are still highly
recommended, even above newer chemical solutions designed specifically
for both metals. It's almost funny how much money has been thrown at
more efficient treatments, only to find that the tried and true,
centuries-old methods are still the best.
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No problem! Hope you are getting settled in comfortably!
Well, you can probably make a lot more money selling brass cleaner than selling salt, vinegar, and flour ;)
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echobeach
Welcome to the top 12 !
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30/12/1904
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Albatross/vol040of055/vol040of055_068_1.jpg
Wet bulb broke; replaced by former dry bulb.
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Copied across to Barometers, Instrumentation and Specifications
(http://forum.oldweather.org/index.php?topic=3456.msg116275#new).
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HHTime Ron passes the 4000 mark!
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kimma001 (Bob)
Welcome to the top 12 !
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Putting 2 and 2 together from this gloating entry.
14th February 1905
T.F.Murphy M-a-A 3c., received a bruise and abrasion of left hand at 10.35, while in the execution of his duties.
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Albatross/vol040of055/vol040of055_116_1.jpg
16th February 1905
Commanding
Officer issued following punishment - Mori Kawa, M.Att.3c., disobeying
orders of Officer of Deck and resisting Master - at - Arms, one days
solitary confinement on bread and water. Mori Kawa was confined as
per sentence.
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Albatross/vol040of055/vol040of055_118_1.jpg
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;)
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http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Albatross/vol040of055/vol040of055_125_0.jpg
Two questions:
1)
When did the format change to amount of clouds in tenths, rather than
amount of clear sky in tenths? I skipped the 1890 logs in order to be
sure I don't miss the San Francisco quake, so it may have happened in
that decade, I suppose.
2) From 20:00 - 22:00 there was
apparently a *lot* of lightning from a clear sky. I know that this can
happen, since lightning can travel 20+ miles from its originating
clouds, but a three hour long electrical storm from the blue seems
pretty intense!
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I think I'd interpret this more as 'lightning observed', probably
near the horizon? There's no mention of anything in the comments.
2)
From 20:00 - 22:00 there was apparently a *lot* of lightning from a
clear sky. I know that this can happen, since lightning can travel 20+
miles from its originating clouds, but a three hour long electrical
storm from the blue seems pretty intense!
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http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Albatross/vol040of055/vol040of055_125_0.jpg
Two questions:
1)
When did the format change to amount of clouds in tenths, rather than
amount of clear sky in tenths? I skipped the 1890 logs in order to be
sure I don't miss the San Francisco quake, so it may have happened in
that decade, I suppose.
2) From 20:00 - 22:00 there was
apparently a *lot* of lightning from a clear sky. I know that this can
happen, since lightning can travel 20+ miles from its originating
clouds, but a three hour long electrical storm from the blue seems
pretty intense!
1)
I think it must be up to the preference of the Captain (or maybe the
logkeeper.) It is easy to recognise which Albatross you are
transcribing
1884 Crew titles in brackets, Barometer readings with a
space instead of a decimal point (except the last few months), % clear
sky
1890 Crew titles in brackets, no space or decimal in the barometer reading, % clear sky
1900 No brackets, Yes decimal, % cloud
I have not found a changeover day or reason as yet.
2)
I sometimes find a lot of l readings when the ship is near mountainous
areas of S. America. I thought they may be distant storms in the
mountains.
They could just be going loco down in Acapulco
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They are crewed by Navy personnel (apparent total distrust of the
sailing abilities of the marine biologists on board), and the entire US
Navy switched from % Clear Sky to % Clouds in the printed new logbooks
they ordered.
'Why' remains a mystery.
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To make Philip's life difficult ;)
(the advantage of TWYS is that we don't have to worry about it)
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1)
I think it must be up to the preference of the Captain (or maybe the
logkeeper.) It is easy to recognise which Albatross you are
transcribing
1884 Crew titles in brackets, Barometer readings with a
space instead of a decimal point (except the last few months), % clear
sky
1890 Crew titles in brackets, no space or decimal in the barometer reading, % clear sky
1900 No brackets, Yes decimal, % cloud
I have not found a changeover day or reason as yet.
On 1900 I had several months when the logs would vary between decimal point and space, so perhaps a logkeeper-based thing.
2)
I sometimes find a lot of l readings when the ship is near mountainous
areas of S. America. I thought they may be distant storms in the
mountains.
That's
what I'd interpret it as. Having flown over South America at night, we
passed several concentrated lightning storms that were visible from very
far away (and an impressive sight!).
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11th March 1905
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Albatross/vol040of055/vol040of055_141_1.jpg
Received
on board for General Mess, from C.Hardy: 35#Beef, 50# Bread, 15# Sp.
Mt., 70# Beef; and from Smith: 1 box Oranges, 100# Table salt, 5#
Hops. Received from U.S.Navy Collier Saturn: 600# Corned Beef,
600# Roast Beef, 700# Salt Beef, 1000# Salt Pork, and 500# Biscuits
Why the hops?
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Medicinal?
"Hops have tonic, nervine, diuretic and anodyne
properties. Their volatile oil produces sedative and soporific effects,
and the Lupamaric acid or bitter principle is stomachic and tonic. For
this reason Hops improve the appetite and promote sleep."
https://www.botanical.com/botanical/mgmh/h/hops--32.html
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This little bit of bedtime reading by the Captain might also promote sleep. :)
12th March 1905
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Albatross/vol040of055/vol040of055_142_1.jpg
Commanding officer inspected the ship and crew, preceded by reading the " Articles for the better government of the Navy".
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Sounds absolutely g r i p p i
n g zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz ;)
;D
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I wonder if there was a penalty for falling asleep during the reading...
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Sunday 26th March 1905
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Albatross/vol040of055/vol040of055_156_1.jpg
Christian Endevour people from San Diego, Cal., came aboard and held divine service on berth deck after supper.
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Saturday 1st April 1905
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Albatross/vol040of055/vol040of055_162_1.jpg
April 1st prank not received well?
By
order of Commanding Officer E.Endresen, Sea., was placed in solitary
confinement on bread and water for 24 hours, for getting Quartermaster's
supper out of the galley without proper authority.
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I wonder what he did with the quartermaster's supper...
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Who would want to make the Quartermaster angry at him by stealing
his supper? That is not the act of an intelligent man! ::)
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Hunger often trumps common sense, but really, there are three people
aboard a Navy ship that you *never* steal from, regardless of how much
your stomach rages against being empty.
#3) Master-at-Arms. Steal his supper and when you're getting flogged, he's not going to go easy on you.
#2)
Quartermaster. You want to get put ashore on a suddenly unmarked island
somewhere? That's how you get that to happen. (Naval Quartermasters
aren't logistics officers, they're the bridge between navigators and
watch commanders).
#1) The Captain. I've read logs of sailors
being keelhauled for less. And remember, this is the guy who has the
legal authorization to shoot you at any time for insubordination.
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Here is the location of an article from the San Francisco Call on the Albatross. A picture of the Mascot too.
http://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lccn/sn85066387/1901-11-24/ed-1/seq-11/
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Interesting!
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18th April 1905
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Albatross/vol040of055/vol040of055_179_1.jpg
Commanding
Officer awarded following punishments: O.Olsen, Sea., eating his dinner
from galley, 6 hours extra duty; R.Brown, O.S., disobeying orders of
Master-at-Arms, 6 hours extra duty; G.E.Williams, O.S., 209 hours over
leave, 4th class for 2 months; W.A.Stowe, O.S., insolent to Boatswain's
mate, warned.
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Commanding Officer awarded following punishments: O.Olsen, Sea., eating his dinner from galley, 6 hours extra duty;
That seems a bit harsh!
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24th April 1905
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Albatross/vol040of055/vol040of055_185_1.jpg
O.Olsen, Sea., returned on board 60 hours overtime, clean and sober.
They are starting to record the condition of everyone returning over time. Abbreviating it as (c + s) in later pages.
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O.Olsen, Sea. is having a busy month :o
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USS Concord Wednesday, 09 December 1908
(http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USS%20Concord/vol038of040/vol038of040_262_1.jpg)
At anchor off Cavite, P.I.
I'm saying, "Hello," to the valiant people on the USS Albatross which just stood over from Manila and anchored nearby.! :)
That's
the second of our other ships I've seen, although I vaguely remember
seeing one of the Coast Guard or revenue cutters quite a while ago when
we were in San Francisco but I don't remember which one that was, if
there even was one. (We frequently saw the Yorktown during the more
active phase of the Philippine operations.)
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17th May 1905
Lots of deliveries all this week. The two
today are interesting, I think, in illustrating the different lifestyles
of the officers and crew.
For the General Mess from a popular Chandler
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Albatross/vol040of055/vol040of055_215_1.jpg
Received
on board from the Western Repair & Supply Co., for the Deck
Department: 1 Soup Pot, 2 Sauce Pans, 1 Strainer, 1 Soup Ladle, 1
Wire Broiler, 2 Coffee Pots, 2 Water Dippers, 1 Bread Pan, round, 23"
dia., 12 Soup Skids, 1 Copper Mess Kettle, 60 Mess Cups, 12 Table
Knives.
For the Wardroom from a prestigious store - also note the
glasses for alcohol on this ship that is so intent on preventing the
crew drinking.
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Albatross/vol040of055/vol040of055_216_1.jpg
Received
from the Nathan_Dohrmann Co. for Deck Dept. (W.R. ) 3 doz.
A.D. Cups, 4 doz. Tea Cups, 4 doz. Coffee Cups, 3 doz. Ind. Butters, 3
doz. Pudding Dishes, 3 doz. Bread Plates, 1 doz. Fruit Plates, 1 doz.
Mush Bowls, 3 doz. Breakfast Plates, 4 Vegetable Dishes, 6 Meat
Platters, 6 Gravy Boats, 1 doz. Finger Bowls, 1 doz. Ice Cream Saucers, 2
Salad Bowls, 1 Coffee Pot, 2 doz. Claret Glasses, 4 doz Water Tumblers,
2 doz Tumblers, #1, 2 doz. Tumblers, #2, 2 doz. Glasses, #3, 2 doz.
Cocktail Glasses #4, 2 doz. Champagne Glasses, 1 Punch Bowl on Stand, 1
Water Pitcher, 2 Casters, 1 Mixer, 1 Ladle, gilt, 1 doz. Dessert Knives,
3 doz. Tea Straiers, 2 Strainers, 6 Ash Trays.
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Yes...
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And they have to have the different types of glasses, you couldn't possibly drink your champage out of a claret glass!
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or tea out of a coffee cup :o :o :o
::)
Anyone know the difference between a tea cup and a coffee cup?
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Anyone know the difference between a tea cup and a coffee cup?
I think you have to be British to know that! ;)
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;D
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Or Canadian. A tea cup is (or used to be) bigger, I think.
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As an oddball American, who's more Scot than Yankee, the difference
between a coffee cup and a tea cup is almost entirely related to *shape*
unless you're in the USA. Tea cups are designed to have a wide top and
taper to a narrow base, with a handle designed to be hooked with one
finger (or two if you've got dainty fingers) in order to disperse heat
as much and as quickly as possible, so as not to burn the tongue and
palate while enjoying the beverage. Coffee cups, on the other hand, are
essentially purely vertical, with a larger handle. The vertical design
facilitates sediment/grounds settling, so you drink more of the liquid,
and less of the bean, although this was an accidental feature, as the
design was intended to be simple, since heat isn't as much of an issue,
given that coffee, when brewed properly, is about 30 degrees cooler than
tea (on average), but tastes terrible when it gets cold. Both cups hold
(on average) four to six ounces of liquid, so the difference in size is
an optical illusion created by the shape of a tea cup.
There are
also the so-called "chocolate cups" that are used for serving chocolate
(obviously), espresso, and potent alcoholic beverages (although alcohol
has its own range of drinking devices). These are at a standard four
ounce size, and are usually tall, with vertical walls lacking a taper,
and narrow.
However, most people drink out of mugs nowadays, and
those are a whole different beast altogether. A beast wholly unsuited
for both coffee *and* tea, but I'm in the minority opinion about that.
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Thank you! ;D
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Anyone know the difference between a tea cup and a coffee cup?
I think you have to be British to know that! ;)
I stand corrected: You either have to be British...
(https://i.imgur.com/iEQjeAl.jpg)
... or you have to be Hatter "Encyclopedia" Jack.
As
an oddball American, who's more Scot than Yankee, the difference
between a coffee cup and a tea cup is almost entirely related to *shape*
unless you're in the USA. Tea cups are designed to have a wide top and
taper to a narrow base, with a handle designed to be hooked with one
finger (or two if you've got dainty fingers) in order to disperse heat
as much and as quickly as possible, so as not to burn the tongue and
palate while enjoying the beverage. Coffee cups, on the other hand, are
essentially purely vertical, with a larger handle. The vertical design
facilitates sediment/grounds settling, so you drink more of the liquid,
and less of the bean, although this was an accidental feature, as the
design was intended to be simple, since heat isn't as much of an issue,
given that coffee, when brewed properly, is about 30 degrees cooler than
tea (on average), but tastes terrible when it gets cold. Both cups hold
(on average) four to six ounces of liquid, so the difference in size is
an optical illusion created by the shape of a tea cup.
There are
also the so-called "chocolate cups" that are used for serving chocolate
(obviously), espresso, and potent alcoholic beverages (although alcohol
has its own range of drinking devices). These are at a standard four
ounce size, and are usually tall, with vertical walls lacking a taper,
and narrow.
However, most people drink out of mugs nowadays, and
those are a whole different beast altogether. A beast wholly unsuited
for both coffee *and* tea, but I'm in the minority opinion about that.
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Anyone know the difference between a tea cup and a coffee cup?
I think you have to be British to know that! ;)
I stand corrected: You either have to be British...
(https://i.imgur.com/iEQjeAl.jpg)
... or you have to be Hatter "Encyclopedia" Jack.
As
an oddball American, who's more Scot than Yankee, the difference
between a coffee cup and a tea cup is almost entirely related to *shape*
unless you're in the USA. Tea cups are designed to have a wide top and
taper to a narrow base, with a handle designed to be hooked with one
finger (or two if you've got dainty fingers) in order to disperse heat
as much and as quickly as possible, so as not to burn the tongue and
palate while enjoying the beverage. Coffee cups, on the other hand, are
essentially purely vertical, with a larger handle. The vertical design
facilitates sediment/grounds settling, so you drink more of the liquid,
and less of the bean, although this was an accidental feature, as the
design was intended to be simple, since heat isn't as much of an issue,
given that coffee, when brewed properly, is about 30 degrees cooler than
tea (on average), but tastes terrible when it gets cold. Both cups hold
(on average) four to six ounces of liquid, so the difference in size is
an optical illusion created by the shape of a tea cup.
There are
also the so-called "chocolate cups" that are used for serving chocolate
(obviously), espresso, and potent alcoholic beverages (although alcohol
has its own range of drinking devices). These are at a standard four
ounce size, and are usually tall, with vertical walls lacking a taper,
and narrow.
However, most people drink out of mugs nowadays, and
those are a whole different beast altogether. A beast wholly unsuited
for both coffee *and* tea, but I'm in the minority opinion about that.
I may have to start using that picture as a forum avatar... it's too good.
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;D
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28th June 1905 Ketchikan, Alaska
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At 7:00 put ship's clocks back one hour.
Why?
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Could they be changing time zones?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alaska_Time_Zone
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time_in_Canada
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Probably it is that. I had thought they kept some kind of
standardised time for navigational purposes and ignored local
differences.
Anyway on to a more interesting event a couple of days later
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30th June 1905 Ketchikan to Yes Bay, Alaska
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Meridian to 4pm
At
3:57, while steaming full speed, at a position above the cannery and
below a place marked 120 ft., approximately on a position marked 6 1/2
fms. on C.&G.S. chart # 8105, the ship touched a rock, passing over
it without any apparent damage. A sounding taken immediately gave a
depth of 6 fms. At end of watch ship passing in through entrance
to upper end of Yes Bay at slow speed.
Carpenter sounded the wells and found ship was making no water.
4pm to Midnight
After anchoring a buoy was placed in 4 fms. of water on the S.En part of the ledge touched by the ship in entering the bay.
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Phew! that was a jolly close one :o
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7th July 1907 Moored to buoy No 2 Mare Island Navy Yard
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At
12:55 the barge Red Rock, heavily loaded with gravel, in tow of a
gasoline launch Elsie standing down stream with a strong ebb tide, ran
athwart our mooring chain and hung up on the buoy with her fore rigging
foul of our bowsprit. The fire boat Leslie came out from the navy
yard and tendered assistance, followed later by the navy yard tug
Active. As the barge swung clear her mast was carried away,
striking our forecastle rail. Upon examination found the hand lead
platform broken, forecastle rail splintered for about three feet on the
starboard side, one stanchion for guard chain broken, bowsprit
loosened, head stays chafed and starboard controller for guard chain
broken. The barge turned turtle and at daylight was was seen on
the mud flats on the Vallejo shore, about opposite the U.S.S.
Independence.
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8th July 1907
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A
Board of Investigation consisting of Captain Young, U.S.N. (Senior
Member), Asst Naval Constructor Fisher, U.S.N., and Chief Boatswain
Rettig, U.S.N., convened on board this vessel to investigate the cause
of the collision of the gravel barge Red Rock with this vessel, which
occurred the morning of July 7, 07.
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Probably unrelated to the barge collision with the Albatross, but I
found a strange mention of Mare Island dated only five days after the
accident. Here
(http://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lccn/sn82015415/1907-07-31/ed-1/seq-7/#date1=1907&index=5&rows=20&words=ISLAND+Island+Mare+MARE&searchType=basic&sequence=0&state=&date2=1907&proxtext=mare+island&y=0&x=0&dateFilterType=yearRange&page=1),
they mention that scuttlebutt within the Navy is that the Mare
Island yard wasn't big enough to house both the Pacific *and* Atlantic
fleets. The implication, while unstated, is that it was discovered the
hard way, seeing as how the military, in general, doesn't really have a
whole lot of foresight. You can get a bit of this sentiment in the
Navy's lack of concern about insufficient dock space, at least, with the
mentions of the private docks that the Navy were using in light of the
Mare Island dock construction being delayed.
Oddly enough, I
can't find any record in any of the local newspapers regarding the
collision of the barge Red Rock and the Albatross, despite the rather
dramatic account in the log. It seems like a pretty straightforward
event, by the Albatross account, but there are some oddities to what was
noted in the logbook. Firstly, barges typically don't have masts, which
is why they're generally towed by another vessel (in this case, the
gasoline launch Elsie). Secondly, "turned turtle" meant the whole barge
capsized, which would have been a complete loss of its load of gravel.
It may have just been gravel, but such a dramatic event surely would
have warranted at least a passing mention.
Perhaps it was left
out on account of a child drowning
(http://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lccn/sn85066387/1907-07-08/ed-1/seq-7/#date1=1907&sort=date&date2=1907&words=Island+Mare&sequence=0&lccn=&index=1&state=&rows=20&ortext=&proxtext=mare+island+&year=&phrasetext=&andtext=&proxValue=&dateFilterType=yearRange&page=50)
on the same day?
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Um, why was the Atlantic fleet being housed in California ?
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I honestly couldn't tell you. Publicity maybe? 1907 was one of the
(sadly) rare periods where the United States wasn't at war with anybody,
and this was a few months before the Knickerbocker Crisis (which would
have forced a recall of the Atlantic fleet, just to be on the safe
side). Given that this was 7 years before the opening of the Panama
Canal, I'm at a loss as to why the Navy would have thought it a good
idea to send any assets from the Atlantic 'round the Horn without a war
going on. Maybe they were just calling it the Atlantic Fleet when it was
just a couple ships?
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Quote from Hatterjack
Firstly, barges typically don't have masts, which is why they're generally towed by another vessel
That would be for the court of enquiry to determine. :P
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Which is why I said they "typically" don't. There's always the Thames barge, which has a mast.
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and jolly handsome they are too:
(http://i.imgur.com/Uazx0ot.png)
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Indeed. That spanker is more adorable than handsome, but they're one of my favorite smaller watercraft.
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12th August 1907 Sausalito - Good deed for the day
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Sent steam launch out and picked up a fishing boat that had broken adrift from its moorings.
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Good for you, Albatross! that's a kind act and may have made all the difference to a local fisherman :D
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25th August 1907 Sausalito
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The
yawl with sailing party consisting of H.J.Mackey, MM1c., and C.Sherer,
Oil., capsized between Angel Island and this vessel, and was picked up
by the ferry boat Tamalpais, saving everything except the yoke which was
lost.
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Barometer readings for 25th August 1907 a.m. have been written
incorrectly by the log keeper. Readings for 1am to 11 am should be
30.0- rather than 30.6-. The noon reading should probably be
29.9- instead of 29.6-.
Transcribed as written.
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Certainly a mess, but TWYS was the right thing to do. ;)
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September 2nd 1907 United Engineering Works, Oakland Harbor.
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Arrived
off Webster St. Bridge at 3:15 and delayed until 3:35 waiting for
bridge to open. Then proceeded to the United Engineering Works
making fast to the Sailing ship Falls of Clyde off the marine railway.
Falls
of Clyde is a four masted sailing ship possibly being converted to an
oil tanker when seen by the Albatross. Until recently it was a
floating museum in Hawaii. Having funding issues now.
Mentioned as I know we have fans of this sort of vessel on the forum.
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FYI
"The patent slip or Marine Railway
was invented[1] by Scot Thomas Morton[2] in 1818 as a cheaper
alternative to a dry dock for ship repair. It consisted of an inclined
plane, which extended well into the water, and a wooden cradle onto
which a ship was floated. The ship was then attached to the cradle and
hauled out of the water up the slip."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patent_slip
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After a long spell at Sausalito, Albatross is preparing for her
longest voyage and will be conducting a lot of research in the
Phillipines. I expect she will be getting at least a new coat of paint
on her hull as she will not be back for a couple of years.
The ship
had another ride on a marine railway in 1904 just before a long
expedition to Galapagos. That one was mentioned as W.A.Boole &
sons so I think there were many marine railways in Oakland Cal.
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Indeed there were many. In addition to W.A. Boole & Son, there
was Hay & Wright based in Alameda, Matthew Turner which had three
separate marine railways, Merchant's Dry Dock had a railway spanning
between their dry docks, Pacific Marine Railway Company, and Fred
Sietner. All of these were based in either San Francisco or Oakland, but
there were two additional companies that were based elsewhere that also
served the Bay Area; Marine Railway & Dry Dock Co. out of San
Diego, and Sacramento Transportation Co., out of Sacramento
(surprisingly).
Oddly enough, Marine Railway and Dry Dock appears
to have been the only marine railway to serve San Diego, despite being
the home port of the Pacific Fleet. One would thing with the sheer
amount of ships going in and out of San Diego that there would be more
marine railways servicing the area.
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Sounds like Marine Railway and Dry Dock had the concession sewn up then :-\
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Perhaps the Navy only used dry docks?
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It's possible that they only used dry docks, but they also have
their own marine railway serving the naval yard and Coronado's naval air
station (Halsey Field). I mentioned that it's odd because the route
that both Marine Railway & Dry Dock and the Navy used for their
marine railways is identical, and it would have been far more cost
effective for the Navy to contract out rather than build their own rail.
Additionally, given the size of San Diego Bay, and how little of it is
actually used by the Navy (the Bay itself is split pretty evenly into
thirds, 1/3 civilian, 1/3 Navy, 1/3 wildlife refuge) it's more
surprising that there weren't additional marine railways, particularly
where the airport is now, as that's the primary mooring for commercial
shipping vessels in San Diego.
To be fair, though, it's a rather
moot point, considering that nowadays the overwhelming majority of
commercial shipping goes to Los Angeles and Long Beach, so the vast
majority of civilian ships in San Diego aren't seeing the regular abuse
that Naval and shipping vessels see, so there's less call for additional
railways.
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Hmmmm -very interesting. Thanks Hatterjack :)
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Engineers report on the state of the ship.
Sept 5th 1907
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An
examination of the vessel after being hauled out showed the bottom
covered with a heavy, almost uniform coat of small barnacles. A
narrow strip of algae covered the water line on each side from stem to
stern. There was also a growth of longer weed on the bottom, the
larger part of which was included between the bilge keels, but this
growth was much lighter than usual. The propellers, which were
left unpainted at last docking, were covered with the same growth of
barnacles as appeared on the hull. All marine growth was removed
with copper scrapers, and the bottom washed with fresh water. An
inspection of the hull was then made for weeping seams and rivets.
The last coat of paint was still in fair condition except along the
water line on each side from entrance to run, where the metal was almost
bare. No signs of unusual corrosion since last docking could be
discovered. Scattered about evenly over the ship's bottom below
the turn of the bilge on each side were found 162 feet of wet
seams. These signs of strain are no doubt due to the severe
weather encountered during the passage from Yokohama to San Francisco in
November 1906. The condition is not serious. Repairs were
made by chipping and re-caulking all seams that showed dampness.
The zinc protectors on the hull were dull in color and showed less
corrosion than usual. The strainer for forward hand pump on
starboard side was removed and a new one fitted. At the next
docking it is recommended that all other strainers be renewed. The
stern bearings were in excellent condition, showing almost no signs of
wear. The rudder gudgeons were removed and gudgeons and pintles
examined. All brass journals and bushings of these bearings wetre
found in good condition. The iron gudgeons, however, are
considerably corroded, and though apparently still strong enough for
considerable service, it is advisable that they be renewed at the next
docking. The bottom blow discharge on port side shows slightly
more than normal corrosion since last docking, and a new reinforcing
plate should be fitted at this point at the next opportunity.
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After
having been cleaned and repaired as above noted the underwater body,
including propellers, was painted with one coat of Rahtjen's
anti-corrosive composition #1, and one coat of Rahtjen's anti-fouling
composition # 3. For the first coat 35 gals. were required to
cover hull, and 33 gals. for the second. Other repairs not
pertaining to the outside underwater body were made as noted in the
Repair Book. A.Hepburn Lieutenant, U.S.N., Chas Crater Warrant
Machinist, U.S.N.
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I bet she felt better for an overhaul like that :)
dragging barnacles around is a waste of energy for sure :)
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September 14th 1907
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Presidio fired a salute of 19 guns at noon.
An important visitor to the army base I expect.
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Just a month after dry docking and repainting.
19th October 1907 - A long way from land
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About
7:25 a leak was discovered in port coal bunker near the ash chute, and
upon examination a small hole was found where the metal had corroded
through. In securing it by driving in a wooden plug the size was
increased to about an inch and a half in diameter.
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:o
Plugging a hole, Step 1: Make it bigger.
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;D
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;D ;D #'There's a hole in my
bucket shi-ip, dear liza, dear liza...'
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I remember that song!
I wonder if straw would have worked better ;)
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Voyage 25% Complete :-\
New Captain (me) :)
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Congratulations, Captain!
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Piping Captain Hurlock aboard !
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Nice work! 8) 8) 8)
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Unusual cloud code 2pm and 9pm M Cu
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March 11th 1908 - Part of last sentence in log obscured by appended list. No other photos of the page.
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Possibly mammatocumulus (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mammatus_cloud), but the conditions don't seem right for that.
Unusual cloud code 2pm and 9pm M Cu
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Seems to be something fishy there ;)
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M-Cu is, in fact, listed in the logbook instructions - last line of
8. Cumulus:
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It seems Bob was right!
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Good job!
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New Captain for the Albatross 1900
Congrats to lollia paolina
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I have returned to Albatross and to try and avoid conflicts (in data
entry) could I have an idea where people are in the logs, could you
please show the month & year please.
I am using Michael and Craig's AHK scrip (which works very well) and am just finishing July 1907.
Thanks
Stuart.
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I am slowly going through April in 1908 (Philippines expedition)
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Its amazing what difference an hour makes.
Baro 12pm 30.00, 1AM next day 30.63
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(http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Albatross/vol041of055/vol041of055_0066_0.jpg)
(67 is duplicate page)
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(http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Albatross/vol041of055/vol041of055_0068_0.jpg)
then back to 29.65 at noon and up to 29.96 at 1pm.
go figure ???
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Just catching up with you guys (and Girls).
Arrived Honolulu 25th Oct 1907 from San Francisco after returning a fuel consumption of
wait for it
15 miles to the ton. :o
;)
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That's a lot of fuel (coal, right?) for a short distance... :o
15 miles to the ton. :o
;)
...but actually kind of 'efficient' when you consider how much weight is getting pushed through the water. ;)
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Trying too visualize a ton of coal. Of course it depends on its
density but apparently it's in the region of a pallet stacked about 5
feet high. :)
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Good Morning Guam (19 Nov 1907)
Not quite the same ring to it but ... ;D
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April 14th 1908 and the scientific department make an elementary mistake...
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At 6:00 Scientific party went away in yawl to look over ground; returned at 7:00, reported no fish.
I am sure they were told to try looking under the water next time.
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;D
I'm pretty sure they meant "ground" as in fishing ground (http://www.dictionary.com/browse/fishing-ground).
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I still reads funny. ;D ;)
;D
I'm pretty sure they meant "ground" as in fishing ground (http://www.dictionary.com/browse/fishing-ground).
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New water thermometer 10 Feb 1908
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(http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Albatross/vol041of055/vol041of055_0256_0.jpg)
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We have been dredging now for some time anybody know what we are dredging for in the Philippines?
ex.
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Sea life - the dredged samples are being inspected for interesting
creatures by the scientific staff on board, which are then preserved.
There are occasionally large deliveries of empty jars and preservative
(alcohol!).
A
variety of collecting methods was used in order to sample as broadly as
possible the aquatic fauna and flora. There were bottom trawls of
various kinds, dredges, midwater trawls, plankton nets, beach seines,
gill nets, handlines and night lights. Reef fishes were usually
collected with explosives, a practice rarely employed by biologists
today. Many valuable specimens were obtained by simply buying them from
local fishermen or in markets.
After the collections were brought
on board, they had to be processed. This involved sorting the
specimens, preserving them in alcohol, and recording all the relevant
collection data (where, when, and how they were collected, what kind of
gear, ecological habitat, water temperature, etc.) By the time the
Albatross returned to San Francisco on 4 May 1910, she had made 487
bottom trawls, 272 dynamite stations, 117 pelagic tows, 102 seine hauls,
75 night light stations, 17 gill net collections, six poison stations
(copper sulphate, used in tide pools), three traps, one handline, and
numerous market purchases.
http://vertebrates.si.edu/fishes/albatross/philippines_exp.html
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The ship is designed for scientific research and especially has
pioneered dredging and sounding techniques as well as various types of
trawls for marine life. Normally there is a commercial aspect to
what they are doing. I would think that in this case a survey is
being done to identify fishery possibilities in this relatively new US
territory. The expedition is led by the deputy director of the
fisheries bureau with staff from the Smithsonian on board as well as
some input from the Philippines (insular) science bureau and also has a
Japanese watercolour artist on board to paint the specimens found.
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Normally there is a commercial aspect to what they are doing.
That's
usually the case in science - someone has to fund it! For example, some
of the Alaskan expeditions focused quite heavily on salmon fishing, and
researching the best methods for fishing and keeping up salmon stocks.
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Thanks Danny & Hurlock. :)
I could not get that info from the log.
Seems like a hard decision with the alcohol, preserve, drink, pweseve dwink errrrrr. ;D
Next OW entry I did after posting this makes the above point.
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(Line 3 10am to midnight)
Two years of dredging coming up. ::)
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I had considered saying that pilfering of scientific alcohol seemed surprisingly rare in the logs I've transcribed!
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I recall the inventory lists for the Jeannette which included
specific quantities of whisky and sherry as well as basic alcohol. I
guess that little lot was kept behind lock and key :)
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Log book Vol 41 completed. :D
14 more to go ???
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April 29th 1908 Manila
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Sent
ashore for storage by Bureau of Supplies and transhipment to the United
States 5 barrels and 3 boxes of Scientific Specimens, and received from
the same Bureau 8 barrels of Alcohol for Scientific Department.
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Party time? ;D
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;D
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;D ;D
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18th May 1908 Pakiputan Strait
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Mr Chamberlain, Dr Bartsch and Mr Fassett left the ship in prahm and went on board one of the pearl fishing sloops.
A nice change from sealing schooners.
20th May 1908 Mindanao River
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Commanding
Officer awarded following punishments: Ah Ling, MAtt3c., refusing to
obey orders of WR Steward, 4 hours extra duty on the bridge from 8:00pm
to midnight; M.Miller, F2c., smoking on berth deck and using
vulgar and abusive language to master-at-arms, 5 days bread and water
and reduced to 4th class; Chong Yeo, MAtt3., purloining beer from ice
box, 5 days bread and water and reduced to 4th class. M.Miller,
F2c., was confined in accordance with above punishment.
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My guess is that a few days on bread and water might be worth it to get icecold beer? :D
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1 more % done.
40% is now 41%
8)
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Progress! ;D
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8) :D 8)
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another 1% done. 8)
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That's 1% every 4 days then - sounds good to me :D
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Some days you just cannot win.
Just spent a long time in Kowloon getting things 'fixed' on the vessel (including a bottom scrape in dry dock).
Departed Kowloon and next day, a loose bolt damaged the thrust bearing.
Returned Kowloon for a few days to get it fixed.
5PM Dept Kowloon, 5:10Pm returned with a badly leaking bow. back in dry dock 4:20PM, had 4 rivets put in forward plate.
How did they miss them when they scraped the bottom? ::)
Dept dry dock 8PM and back making way full speed to Santo Domingo PI
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;D Perhaps they liked Dry Dock?
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I get the impression that the ship is increasingly prone to
breakdowns now. They had a lot of boiler and engine problems on
the earlier voyage from the U.S. to the Philippines.
Maybe time to trade the ship in for a new one!
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I agree.
The ships history shows that was not the case.
Logs end 31 Dec 1915. (7 yrs 1 month to go for me)
Example from the last log book.
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Albatross/vol055of055/vol055of055_0031_0.jpg
(http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Albatross/vol055of055/vol055of055_0031_0.jpg)
::)
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40,000+ entries.
Congratulations and thanks to Sylvia.
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Congratulations Sylvia!
:D :D :D :D :D
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;D Perhaps they liked Dry Dock?
This is the type of Dry Dock I like to be in.
(http://i.imgur.com/uBOy4r3.jpg)
(Pity they have stopped making that brew. It was made by Sail & Anchor.)
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Good work! 8)
40,000+ entries.
Congratulations and thanks to Sylvia.
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;D Perhaps they liked Dry Dock?
This is the type of Dry Dock I like to be in.
(http://i.imgur.com/uBOy4r3.jpg)
(Pity they have stopped making that brew. It was made by Sail & Anchor.)
:'( :'( :'( back to grog then Stuart ;)
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Obvious error but I have TWYS for it. 8-11PM should have been 30.xx not 29.xx
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Albatross/vol043of055/vol043of055_0060_0.jpg
(http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Albatross/vol043of055/vol043of055_0060_0.jpg)
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That would make your ears pop ;) ;D
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44% done.
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Moving right along... :D
44% done.
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What happened to the safety lectures?
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Albatross/vol043of055/vol043of055_0143_1.jpg
(http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Albatross/vol043of055/vol043of055_0143_1.jpg)
You just DON'T do that, or visa versa.
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I've seen some spectacular videos of water-on-grease-fire demos. :o
I imagine there wasn't much in the way of organized safety training in those days.
What happened to the safety lectures?
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Albatross/vol043of055/vol043of055_0143_1.jpg
(http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Albatross/vol043of055/vol043of055_0143_1.jpg)
You just DON'T do that, or visa versa.
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Not sure if anybody has found this resource before me but just in case.
http://naturalhistory.si.edu/iz/albatross/index.cfm (http://naturalhistory.si.edu/iz/albatross/index.cfm)
and more specifically
http://naturalhistory.si.edu/iz/albatross/listings.cfm?expedition=Philippines+Expedition&Submit=Go
(http://naturalhistory.si.edu/iz/albatross/listings.cfm?expedition=Philippines+Expedition&Submit=Go)
Also
http://naturalhistory.si.edu/iz/albatross/albatross_resources.cfm
(http://naturalhistory.si.edu/iz/albatross/albatross_resources.cfm)
In this set I found The construction and outfit file very interesting.
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Not sure if anybody has found this resource before me but just in case.
http://naturalhistory.si.edu/iz/albatross/index.cfm (http://naturalhistory.si.edu/iz/albatross/index.cfm)
and more specifically
http://naturalhistory.si.edu/iz/albatross/listings.cfm?expedition=Philippines+Expedition&Submit=Go
(http://naturalhistory.si.edu/iz/albatross/listings.cfm?expedition=Philippines+Expedition&Submit=Go)
Also
http://naturalhistory.si.edu/iz/albatross/albatross_resources.cfm
(http://naturalhistory.si.edu/iz/albatross/albatross_resources.cfm)
In this set I found The construction and outfit file very interesting.
I'm so glad we didn't have to enter all those station data! ;D
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If I am not sure of the place name spelling I can now follow the course day by day and get the typed names.
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Wow, great find! Lots of detail. 8)
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Cor! That's amazing - what a treasure trove! :o ;D
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More info on the vessel for those who are interested.
http://spo.nwr.noaa.gov/mfr614/mfr6141.pdf (http://spo.nwr.noaa.gov/mfr614/mfr6141.pdf)
https://faculty.washington.edu/fishguy/Resources/Research_PDFs/2001-garman-albatross-deep-sea-fishes.pdf
(https://faculty.washington.edu/fishguy/Resources/Research_PDFs/2001-garman-albatross-deep-sea-fishes.pdf)
some ugly (except to their mothers) fish plates in this one.
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Thanks Stuart - looks like good reading :)
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From [Page 7 of the Pacific Commercial Advertiser for July 2 1856]
A lively bunch....but not very good at speling spellin speeling spelling on Wednesdays, or even Wenesdays. ;) ;D
(http://i.imgur.com/D7qGqHI.png) (http://evols.library.manoa.hawaii.edu/bitstream/10524/45037/1/1907102901.pdf)
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And I thought grammar nazis were a modern thing... ::)
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Ha! That's a funny one. ;D
From [Page 7 of the Pacific Commercial Advertiser for July 2 1856]
(http://evols.library.manoa.hawaii.edu/bitstream/10524/45037/1/1907102901.pdf)
It looks to be October 29, 1907, though. ;)
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Ha! That's a funny one. ;D
From [Page 7 of the Pacific Commercial Advertiser for July 2 1856]
(http://evols.library.manoa.hawaii.edu/bitstream/10524/45037/1/1907102901.pdf)
It looks to be October 29, 1907, though. ;)
I
bet I picked up the inaugural date for the paper didn't I? It was
vaguely filtering into my brain that I had something wrong there. At
least I spelt the wrong month correctly ;D
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And I thought grammar nazis were a modern thing... ::)
The
problem all started with that radical nightmare - the printing press.
Without that any old spelling would be perfectly acceptable. I blame
Caxton ;) :D
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I was going to say - 1856 would be quite impressive, given the lack
of any US government ship called Albatross; the first USS Albatross was
1858!
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I
was going to say - 1856 would be quite impressive, given the lack of
any US government ship called Albatross; the first USS Albatross was
1858!
Can't argue with that! ;D
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Is our helmsman blind, overshot the quay or am I missing something? ;D
Location.
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Albatross/vol043of055/vol043of055_0234_0.jpg
(http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Albatross/vol043of055/vol043of055_0234_0.jpg)
I make it as
Manila; making passage to and on marine railway at El Varadero, PI
(For answer see)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patent_slip (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patent_slip)
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(For answer see) OWpedia (http://forum.oldweather.org/index.php?topic=3209.msg95472#msg95472) ;)
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Thanks. ;)
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Oddly the Albatross 1890 stream I am transcribing is a visit to a
floating dry dock (I think) in Quartermasters Harbor.
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Oddly the Albatross 1890 stream I am transcribing is a visit to a floating dry dock (I think) in Quartermasters Harbor.
This is the first Marine Railway I have seen noted, ever.
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Indeed
there were many. In addition to W.A. Boole & Son, there was Hay
& Wright based in Alameda, Matthew Turner which had three separate
marine railways, Merchant's Dry Dock had a railway spanning between
their dry docks, Pacific Marine Railway Company, and Fred Sietner. All
of these were based in either San Francisco or Oakland, but there were
two additional companies that were based elsewhere that also served the
Bay Area; Marine Railway & Dry Dock Co. out of San Diego, and
Sacramento Transportation Co., out of Sacramento (surprisingly).
Oddly
enough, Marine Railway and Dry Dock appears to have been the only
marine railway to serve San Diego, despite being the home port of the
Pacific Fleet. One would thing with the sheer amount of ships going in
and out of San Diego that there would be more marine railways servicing
the area.
;)
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Hear enduth the second reading of the log 43/55 according to Stuart.
Only 11 log books or 53% to go.
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8) Getting close to making Jamestown 1844 the fleet laggard (it's at 61% ;) )!
Hear enduth the second reading of the log 43/55 according to Stuart.
Only 11 log books or 53% to go.
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8) Getting close to making Jamestown 1844 the fleet laggard (it's at 61% ;) )!
It's not the percentage that counts, it's the number of WRs still to be entered... ;)
Here is my estimate from the first of this month:
Thetis 10557
Patterson 15196
Unalga_1 16799
Albatross_1890 30392
Jamestown_1844 89879
Albatross_1900 139433
Yorktown 212036
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Thanks Michael, I needed that :P
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It's not the percentage that counts, it's the number of WRs still to be entered... ;)
Good point!
Yorktown 212036
:o
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July 31st 1908
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Albatross/vol042of055/vol042of055_0165_1.jpg
Sent triplet to Navy Yard for repairing
Presumably a ship part. Any ideas?
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I thought it may be some sort of gear wheel cut with teeth in a /\/ format (but it turned out to be a saw teeth cut).
Left field, when I went looking for the Triplet I found this neat mechanism.
https://www.behance.net/gallery/28409895/Geneva-Wheel (https://www.behance.net/gallery/28409895/Geneva-Wheel)
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I wonder if it could be a surveying instrument?
https://books.google.com/books?id=93xkVGKNy6sC&pg=PA22&lpg=PA22&dq=triplet+surveying
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Possibility.
They are still in use now.
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Looks like it is some kind of chain linkage for the anchor.
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Albatross/vol042of055/vol042of055_0166_1.jpg
Received from the Naval Station for Deck Department the triplet for starboard chain
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A triplet is mentioned here:
http://www.hnsa.org/resources/manuals-documents/age-of-sail/textbook-of-seamanship/ground-tackle/
:-\
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A triplet is mentioned here: http://www.hnsa.org/resources/manuals-documents/age-of-sail/textbook-of-seamanship/ground-tackle/
:-\
Wow, there's a lot more to heaving a weight overboard than I thought. ;)
I love the face on the end of the beam...
(http://archive.hnsa.org/doc/luce/img/plate95.jpg)
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Yes, that caught my eye too. Such careful attention to something with no - practical - functionality.
Unless I am mistaken that is the cathead, but it doesn't look like a cat face to me ;)
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August 11th 1908 Hong Kong
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Albatross/vol042of055/vol042of055_0176_1.jpg
Sent L.C.Smith and Bro. typewriter ashore for repair.
I put L.C.Smith down as a crew mention before realising it was the typewriter make. :-[
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I mentioned some time ago about having CiCu and Cu & Ci entries by different log keepers.
I now have both in the same square. 7PM
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Albatross/vol044of055/vol044of055_0081_0.jpg
(http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Albatross/vol044of055/vol044of055_0081_0.jpg)
I do not know what he is trying to say. ???
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Hi Stuart,
Had not seen your post about it, but i'd say it's a
Cirrocumulus (CiCu - high altitude) formation shortly followed (inside
the same hour) by a change to a mixed Cumulus (Cu - low altitude) below
Cirrus (Ci - high altitude) clouds.
Shortly, the high altitude clouds changed from CiCu to Ci, and a low Cu formation appeared.
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Hi.
They are getting fussy for a 1 hr reading.
(must have been given a lesson on clouds that day and wished to show off) ;D
This
reading was in Summer but I often wonder how they work out the cloud
type at winter time when it is pitch black night. ???
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50% done and counting ;)
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There's no going back now. ;D
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Well done!
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This
reading was in Summer but I often wonder how they work out the cloud
type at winter time when it is pitch black night. ???
You're not alone in wondering that! They must've had some very good eyesight, especially on moonless nights...
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Armament October 1908
15 Rifles 6 m/m Lee
15 Revolvers Colt
15 Rifles Konig-Jorgensen should be Krag-Jorgensen
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http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Albatross/vol044of055/vol044of055_0162_1.jpg
(http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Albatross/vol044of055/vol044of055_0162_1.jpg)
1PM to Midnight. Last sentence.
At 6:00 a Messenger from the Deep appeared and heralded the coming of Great Neptune by tomorrow.
Following day. Meridian to 3:45PM
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Albatross/vol044of055/vol044of055_0163_1.jpg
(http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Albatross/vol044of055/vol044of055_0163_1.jpg)
Steaming
full speed S3/4E (PSC) until 1:50 when stopped and lay to for the
reception of Neptune. His Majesty appeared on board with his royal court
an' soaked 'em all regardless, then vanished in the deep.
(No lats/Longs given.)
It may not be connected but that afternoon there were no entries in the force column.
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The Binang Unang dredging station is given a location very close to the equator.
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This is on of the trawls they started at 4pm on the 17 Nov 1909. (Some of the spelling is different in the log book)
Albatross Other
Collecting Site "D" STATION (Dredge and
Trawl) 17 Nov 1909 1.3 (Fathoms) ? 2
(Fathoms) 00 20 00 S 122 00 00
E North Pacific Ocean Indonesia
Ocean North Pacific Ocean
Sea Or Gulf Gulf of Tomini
Country Indonesia
State Sulawesi
Locality Precise Togian Islands, Binang Unanga Island
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15th November 1908 Port San Vicente (Gale force winds)
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Albatross/vol043of055/vol043of055_0030_1.jpg
Dinghy
and 5 men left the ship at 6:00 to visit the village and to return by
midnight. At 12:00 the boat had failed to return.
16th November 1908 (Still very blusterous)
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Albatross/vol043of055/vol043of055_0031_1.jpg
At
daylight the dinghy and crew were discovered ashore on New Orleans
Point, being unable to make the ship on account of tide and wind.
At 7:15 the dinghy returned. With the exception of one broken oar
no damage occurred.
I wonder if another trip to the village was requested
Commanding
Officer awarded following punishment: F.Meijorhoff, CM3c., insolence
and profane language to Naturalist F.M.Chamberlain, 8 to 12 pm watch on
bridge for one week.
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Commanding
Officer awarded following punishment: F.Meijorhoff, CM3c., insolence
and profane language to Naturalist F.M.Chamberlain, 8 to 12 pm watch on
bridge for one week.
The mind positively boggles :o
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Hi.
They are getting fussy for a 1 hr reading.
(must have been given a lesson on clouds that day and wished to show off) ;D
This
reading was in Summer but I often wonder how they work out the cloud
type at winter time when it is pitch black night. ???
Maybe
they were reading from the chart in this article.
http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/media/pdf/s/0/12_0674_Factsheet_1_Clouds.pdf
(http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/media/pdf/s/0/12_0674_Factsheet_1_Clouds.pdf)
from the forum cloud identification page.
Aid to cloud identification
If, especially during the hours of darkness, an observer has difficulty in identifying the cloud types
following the onset of precipitation, the table below can be used as a guide to the cloud types which may
be present from the nature of the precipitation.
Cloud heights
Observations have shown that cloud levels (with the exception of nacreous and noctilucent clouds)
vary over a range of altitudes from near sea level to perhaps 18 kilometres (60,000 feet) in the tropics,
14 kilometres (45,000 feet) in middle latitudes, and 8 kilometres (25,000 feet) in polar regions.
By convention, the vertical extent of the atmosphere in which clouds are usually present is divided into
three layers: high, medium and low. Each layer is defined by a range of altitudes between which clouds of
certain types occur most frequently. The layers overlap and the approximate limits vary with the latitude
as shown in the table below. Some clouds usually have their bases in the low level but may reach into the
medium or high levels.
When the height of the base of a particular cloud is known, the use of levels may assist the observer to
identify the cloud.
Cloud type
Precipitation As Ns Sc St Cu# Cb#
Rain
* *
* * *
Drizzle *
Snow * * * * * *
Snow pellets * * *
Hail
*
Small hail *
Ice pellets * *
Snow grains *
#Showery precipitation.
_______________________________
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:o :o :o :o :o
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December 1st 1908 Cavite Naval Station, Philippines
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Albatross/vol043of055/vol043of055_0046_1.jpg
At 8:00 U.S. Atlantic fleet got under way and stood out.
This is the 'Great White Fleet' on the final leg of its circumnavigation of the globe.
At 9:30 U.S.S. Charleston fired a salute of 13 guns and was answered by 7 guns from U.S.S. Rainbow.
These are both flagships of the pacific fleet so the salute might not be linked to the Atlantic fleet leaving port.
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Crew changes ready for next voyage.
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Albatross/vol044of055/vol044of055_0231_1.jpg
(http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Albatross/vol044of055/vol044of055_0231_1.jpg)
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The ship is soon to head away from the Philippines and into some tricky weather.
The
crew with N at the beginning of their job abbreviation were taken on as
part of the Filipino Native Insular Force and were for use in the local
area.
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Another one bites the dust
Another one bites the dust
And another one gone, and another one gone
Another log bites the dust
Only 11 more to go (45 - 55).
;D
No instruments noted in book 45.
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60% complete. Big smile for all the crew. :D
Seem to be missing 22 Feb to 30 April 1910 Inc. :o
Log 44 ended 22 Feb1910
Log 45 starts 1 May 1910
(And
the writing has got worse, see the misc page.
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Albatross/vol045of055/vol045of055_0006_1.jpg
(http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Albatross/vol045of055/vol045of055_0006_1.jpg))
:(
He also is using the ditto and adds other clouds like "+cicu.
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Albatross/vol045of055/vol045of055_0006_0.jpg
(http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Albatross/vol045of055/vol045of055_0006_0.jpg)
3PM
How do you want that handled as I cannot see the previous
formation and cannot move the box as it screws up Michael's boxes.
TWUS? or don't see ;)
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I would say TWYS...
Philip does handle dittos - at least in normal cases.
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60% complete. Big smile for all the crew. :D
8)
He also is using the ditto and adds other clouds like "+cicu.
How
do you want that handled as I cannot see the previous formation and
cannot move the box as it screws up Michael's boxes. TWUS? or
don't see
I remember a few of these from the 1890 set. Type what U see. ;)
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I wish this dude would stop putting .s after each number set.
Looks messy.
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May 20th 1909
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Albatross/vol043of055/vol043of055_0227_1.jpg
Received
on board from the General Store-Keeper, Naval Station, Cavite, P.I., 15
Kraig-Jorgensen rifles, 15 slings for same, 15 bayonets and 15 bayonet
scabbards.
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Amount of cloud hard to read on scan.
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Albatross/vol045of055/vol045of055_0032_0.jpg
(http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Albatross/vol045of055/vol045of055_0032_0.jpg)
Used Matteos program to recover it.
http://owtools.scienceontheweb.net/owtools/OWCouplerFull.html (http://owtools.scienceontheweb.net/owtools/OWCouplerFull.html)
I have Michaels script running at 133% screen size so cannot dual screen. Its slow swopping screens but it works.
In
the June 1910 log you cannot see the amt cloud column at all without
Matteos program. That means I am probably the only one to add the
figures. 1/3 probably will not count.
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7th July 1909 Cavite Naval Station
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Albatross/vol044of055/vol044of055_0025_1.jpg
Yard tug No 681 carried away port gangway ladder.
Sent remains of port gangway ladder ashore to navy yard to be repaired.
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You break it, you fix it ;)
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Monday 26th July 1909 Abuyog
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Albatross/vol044of055/vol044of055_0045_1.jpg
Swimming party ashore with dinghy
Base
ball and liberty parties went ashore for the afternoon. All boats
returned. The local scout band gave a concert on board.
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Having just come out of repair we are full speed on our way again.
Why are we always running at full speed?
It's no wonder we keep needing service.
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Well we have a very considerate Captain.
Go awol for a few days and he gives you a months rest'n ::)
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Albatross/vol045of055/vol045of055_0093_0.jpg
(http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Albatross/vol045of055/vol045of055_0093_0.jpg)
Well maybe not, next day there are two bad conduct discharges. :'(
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Albatross/vol045of055/vol045of055_0094_1.jpg
(http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Albatross/vol045of055/vol045of055_0094_1.jpg)
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That's surprising - I think I've only ever seen one discharge that
wasn't due to term of enlistment expiring on the Albatross. That case
was an Asian cook/mess attendant who was, if I remember rightly,
discharged for being "unsuitable" for his job!
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Bad influence from Concord's crew? ;)
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Bad influence from Concord's crew? ;)
I
don't think we were a bad influence. We were just free-spirited and we
inspired others to live up to their potential... ;D ;D ;D
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Bad influence from Concord's crew? ;)
I
don't think we were a bad influence. We were just free-spirited and we
inspired others to live up to their potential... ;D ;D ;D
Thanks Michael for bailing me out of that one. ;)
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October 2nd 1909 Sebatik Island, British North Borneo
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Albatross/vol044of055/vol044of055_0113_1.jpg
Mr
Barthalow, Mr Crater, and members of Scientific Department left at 5:15
to visit the coal mine - prahm and five men with the party.
Mr Barthalow and party returned on board at 10:30 pm.
This
was probably the Silimpopon coal mine and this was claimed to be the
worlds biggest coal mine. It would have been fairly new at this
time. There was a town of around 5000 chinese laborers associated
with this mine. Also a railway for access.
The log is usually
precise in using rank so referring to Lieutenant Barthalow and Warrant
Machinist Crater as merely 'Mr' might suggest a social outing rather
than official business.
I thought at first that the log said
"prahm and fire men" but "five" seems more likely. The vision of
was of the firemen being taken out for the day to be shown shown where
the coal they shovel comes from. I do not think they would have
appreciated this use of liberty.
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;)
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October 23rd 1909 Manila
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Albatross/vol044of055/vol044of055_0138_1.jpg
At 5:30 No.2 typhoon signal was displayed. At 10:00 sent steam launch ashore to secure for the night.
October 24th 1909 Manila
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Albatross/vol044of055/vol044of055_0139_1.jpg
A
lighter drifted down and struck the ship's port steam launch secured at
the Leg~pi boat landing, carrying away her moorings and the launch sank
at 6:45 and drifted on the beach.
October 25th 1909 Manila and Cavite Naval Station
At
7:00 sent working party ashore in cutter and whale boat to float the
steam launch. Working party returned with launch at 9:00.
Hoisted steam launch even with the rail and began dismantling engine and boiler.
Received from U.S.S. Piscataqua one 24-ft. power dory.
Hoisted boiler and engine out of port launch, stripped and expended the hull.
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Don't worry about the launch they get a gasoline powered on next refit.
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Our captains WRs has not changed for a while.
I think she has finished all the logs.
All hail The Captain.
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Our captains WRs has not changed for a while.
I think she has finished all the logs.
All hail The Captain.
8) 8) 8)
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On our way back from a quick trip, Seattle to Pribilof Is and return.
The log gives no idea why.
Nothing important happened that I could read in the hard to read text.
More tax payers money going up in coal.
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On our way back from a quick trip, Seattle to Pribilof Is and return.
The log gives no idea why.
Nothing important happened that I could read in the hard to read text.
More tax payers money going up in coal.
As long as it was clean coal, I can't see the problem! ;D ;D ;D ;D
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On our way back from a quick trip, Seattle to Pribilof Is and return.
The log gives no idea why.
Nothing important happened that I could read in the hard to read text.
More tax payers money going up in coal.
As long as it was clean coal, I can't see the problem! ;D ;D ;D ;D
You tell me, we are in Victoria BC now. ;)
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On our way back from a quick trip, Seattle to Pribilof Is and return.
The log gives no idea why.
Nothing important happened that I could read in the hard to read text.
More tax payers money going up in coal.
Pribilof
Islands are where the fur seal rookeries are. This was a big U.S.
revenue stream that needed monitoring. They have visited before
to drop off scientists or members of the Fur seal commission.
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There are several mentions of the Pribilof Islands in
https://www.history.navy.mil/research/histories/ship-histories/danfs/a/albatross-ii.html
Perry patrolled them too:
http://forum.oldweather.org/index.php?topic=3698.msg83629#msg83629
http://forum.oldweather.org/index.php?topic=4309.msg100060#msg100060
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Thanks Randi and Robert.
As I said from what I could read there did not seem to be any purpose to the voyage.
Maybe Robert can read more info from the logs as I had difficulty with the faint sections.
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Link me to the page and I will have a look.
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(I had forgotten about this lot.)
Sec of Commerce and Labor and party came on board at Vancouver
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Arriving at Pribilof Islands from Nome.
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(http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Albatross/vol045of055/vol045of055_0130_0.jpg)8:40pm
anchored at North side of St Paul Pribilof Ids.
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Sighted the RC Manning at anchor.
The Secretary and party left at 8:50 am. left in the Mannings surf boat and a boat from this vessel.
The RC Manning with Sec Nagel and Attorney General Waskershaw? stood out of the harbor at Noon, at 12:40pm got underway etc.
Returning to Seattle.
Long trip for 3 hrs. ::)
These pages I can read, some of the others I cannot. Robert will find them before these pages when he gets to them.
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08 Oct 1910.
Commander C. M.McCormick was this day detached
fromcommand of this vessel Bureau order of 30 Oct #4790-40
and left ship at 7:30.
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Lost Silvia and the Commander in only a few months. :'(
Lieut
B.G. Barthlow is back in charge. Next it's Chief B. Rohauge (I cannot
read all the letters in his full name) for a few days, then back to
Barthlow.
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Robert Rohange, Chief Boatswain
http://ibiblio.org/hyperwar/AMH/USN/Naval_Registers/1911.pdf
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Thanks Randi. ;)
Thats an ugly 'Boatswain' on the page. :o
I was trying to read it as his first name. :-[
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Indeed!
Even knowing it said Boatswain I had a hard time with the letters ::)
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Just so you're not too confused, I got to Feb 11, 1910 somewhere on
the way to Japan and Hanibal took it to about Feb 20. After that, we
jumped to May 1, 1910 in California. (please correct me if I am wrong,
Hanibal). When I began this AM we were in Sansalito on May 10 and I took
it to June 1, 1910.
You will notice a rather sharp
deterioration in the handwriting quality and image sharpness as well as
the cloud cover percent sometimes hidden in the crease.
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Actually, Stuart is ahead of me and Craig - we just started the logbook he is working on.
I think Craig will overtake Stuart soon and work on the second stream while Stuart, Hurlock and I do the third.
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Log 46 starts at 18 Oct 1910 which is strange as I have already completed October in the deck logs.
I am just clicking through the pages 18th Oct to end of 31 Oct WITHOUT ENTRIES
Would suggest you skip the pages 18 Oct to 31 Oct in the DECK books and use these pages. Much neater and easier to read.
__________________________________
From 22 March 2017 till 27 April 2017 I will be away so go for it.
Till then I do not usually transcribe on MY Tuesdays and Wednesdays.
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6 Nov 1910
Shape up my lads the new Commander is on board and it's been 2 1/2 yrs since his last command.
Commander Guy Hamilton Burrage USN
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Punishment list came out 3 days later.
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Good morning to the RC Bear at Sausalito, 15 Nov 1910.
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http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/USRC%20Bear/vol102/vol102_145_1.jpg
How rude of the Bear :o
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Not so fast, Randi. You must remember that particular transcriber
was an Aussie, and their version of Nov 10 is not the same as it is for
the rest of us... ;D ;D ;D
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I checked the previous and following days in Bear's log too ;D
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I checked the previous and following days in Bear's log too ;D
Oh well, I tried... ;D ;D ;D
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Not
so fast, Randi. You must remember that particular transcriber was an
Aussie, and their version of Nov 10 is not the same as it is for the
rest of us... ;D ;D ;D
You are right there Michael.
Our 10 Nov is the 15 Nov. :P
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Good morning to the RC Bear at Sausalito, 15 Nov 1910.
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Good bye Bear 30 Nov 1910 (where ever you are.) ;D
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Good-bye Albatross :(
We're still is Sausalito.
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Oh, you came back again.
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We didn't leave ;)
::)
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But I saw you standing out of the harbour, you tricked me. ;D
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Sorry, I misunderstood :-[
Bear was in Sausalito from Nov. 15 to Nov. 30 and left on the 30'th.
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I would think by now that Sausalito would be the most entered port
in the whole US project with all the ships that visit their.
They should have very accurate data by now.
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I would think by now that Sausalito would be the most entered port in the whole US project ...
After Mare Island Naval Yard ::)
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and Navy Yard, Mare Island ;D
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and Navy Yard, Mare Island ;D
and Seattle.
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I would think by now that Sausalito would be the most entered port in the whole US project ...
After Mare Island Naval Yard ::)
and Navy Yard, Mare Island ;D
Both of which are only about 20km away from Sausalito. ;)
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Who has just done Jan 26, 1911 through to Feb 4 1911? at about 03:00 UTC
I seem to be double shifting with someone.
Stuart.
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I did Feb 1 and 2 1911 about 7 pm last night.
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OK Robert, seems we are now on the same thread.
I will not be doing much over my weekend (GMT+10) as I have visitors.
May be doing some on Monday and Tuesday then HOLIDAYS, :) back 26th April.
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I did the last bit of Jan last night.
Looks like Craig has passed us, so now we're all in the third stream.
I only transcribe from 18:00 to 22:00, GMT+1, during the week. On Friday nights and weekends, I do more.
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Yes, it's very lonely. At least we have left Sausalito (about Feb 22). I'm at March 1911 now.
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Craig, what are your usual transcribe times (GMT) ?
Just started Feb 17 1911
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Between 6:30 and 10 AM my time, Stuart. I usually add 5 to get GMT
but now we are on daylight saving time so I'm not sure. I don't think
there will be a conflict, though, if you are transcribing all the
remarks.
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Hi Craig.
That puts you somewhere in the region of 15 hrs behind me. Just give me a while whilst I count back on my fingers.
Your
early morning may conflict with my evening but as I will be away in 4
days for a 5 week holiday that will not matter as you and Hanibal will
have finished the ship by then.
I am not transcribing any remarks except refueling.
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Location
I know it's right but it did not seem so when typing it in.
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Concepcion
Bay, making passage to and anchored at Mulege Anchorage, thence making
passage to San Francisquito, Gulf of California, Mexico.
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Yeah, I did a double take when I saw San Francisquito too, Stuart. It's a long name for a small place.
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I just finished Vol 46 at June 18, 1911. Vol 47 begins at June 1 of
the same year. The June 1 page in each volume is essentially the same
but not identical. The weather data are the same.
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http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Albatross/vol047of055/vol047of055_0005_0.jpg
I am skipping ahead to June 19 in volume 47.
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I
just finished Vol 46 at June 18, 1911. Vol 47 begins at June 1 of the
same year. The June 1 page in each volume is essentially the same but
not identical. The weather data are the same.
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I am skipping ahead to June 19 in volume 47.
I reached that point last night, and skipped through the duplicate pages just like Craig did.
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Don't you love this log keeper's quirks? The detached tops of his
fives become roofs over the digit that follows. And then he puts a
period after the cloud cover amount. This can be really tricky when the
column is partially in the fold - it can be hard to tell a 1 from a 10.
And to top it off, we have been in Sausolito for several months now. At
least the writing gets a bit better as you progress in Vol 47.
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I am at March 1912 and we have been at Sausalito since last September. I looked ahead and it's always Sausalito.
Here's what Naval History says: 1912-14
? By now found unseaworthy, her operations were limited to biological
studies of San Francisco Bay, but later started a major refit at Mare
Island.
As this weather information is of marginal value I won't go any further. :( I hope OW spreadsheet is available soon
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There may be a bit more dredging through the logs to be done.
Could the logs be skimmed through until the interesting sections?
Albatross
subsequently departed San Francisco on 12 April 1914 and set course for
the coasts of Washington and Oregon, but interrupted her survey of the
fishing grounds off the coasts of Washington and Oregon, to take the
Deputy Commissioner of Fisheries to the Pribilofs, on an inspection trip
of the fisheries of central and western Alaska that lasted from 12 June
to 22 August. Returning to San Francisco on 15 September 1914, she
resumed her work off the Oregon and Washington coasts the following
summer, clearing her home port on 6 July 1915. Over the ensuing months,
she resurveyed the grounds she had studied during her cruises in 1888
and 1889. From the spring of 1916 into the autumn of that year,
Albatross operated in the waters off southern and Lower California,[3]
to learn of the "distribution and migration of tuna."
There was
also a gap in the dates of the logs already transcribed that I hope
could be found that cover the year of 1906 and the San Francisco
earthquake and also another expedition into the north pacific after
that. On the return journey of which the Commanding Officer was
lost overboard in a storm.
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I might be tempted to do those logs if Philip agrees to our skipping ahead, Hurlock.
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I have passed the question on to Philip.
According to https://www.pmel.noaa.gov/rediscover/us-navy-logbooks, there are no images for July 1905 to June 1907.
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I am struggling to keep my sanity as they days go by without a fix
of OW. I might even continue doing Sausalito WRs for want of
anything better. Oh, the misery of it all! Michael has offered me a
temporary fix to keep me off the street but he hasn't delivered yet -
not all pushers are reliable and one must be careful with stuff from
suspect sources. ;D
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At least you still have sanity to keep!
However, I know what you mean :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(
Hopefully Michael's cure will not be worse than the kill ;)
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I have passed the question on to Philip.
Any news on this? My stream (the third) is at September 1911, and she has returned to Sausalito.
I might trot over to Yorktown until Philip replies.
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Nothing yet :(
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I
am struggling to keep my sanity as they days go by without a fix of
OW. I might even continue doing Sausalito WRs for want of anything
better. Oh, the misery of it all! Michael has offered me a temporary
fix to keep me off the street but he hasn't delivered yet - not all
pushers are reliable and one must be careful with stuff from suspect
sources. ;D
I
did offer, and the cost was very low and, in spite of lacing the goods
with a highly addictive additive, it seems Craig was immune to its
effects. He was last seen wandering about the streets of Sausalito
muttering incomprehensible depredations about all and sundry in that
lovely city. ;D ;D ;D
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Still no news, I assume?
I'm in a bit of a muddle. On the one
hand, I do want to finish this ship off, but on the other, I feel like I
really should wait for Philip's response. Don't want to do six months
of Sausalito only for him to say that we can skip all the Sausalito
parts.
Plus, I can still work on the Yorktown while I wait. I think
me and Maikel are the only ones doing her, and we are in separate
streams.
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I sent another message.
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Just restarted and got the 6th Oct 1911 in Sausalito.
What is the current decision on transcribing or not?
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No decision that I am aware of. I am continuing at my usual
pace. Other transcribers are taking a break from this ship until
they hear if it is still required.
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Thanks Robert.
At least it will give you chance to continue your good work on the crew lists without getting overtaken.
I will trying the Unalga for a while
Stuart.
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Stuart, Please do not work on Unalga. Matteo has been transcribing
Unalga from the very beginning, but now he seems to be in the third
stream and he is heartbroken at missing pages.
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How about working on the Yorktown, Stuart? She's so big, another transcriber can't hurt.
I'm in stream 3, but I don't do much, and only in the evenings on weekdays.
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Stuart,
Please do not work on Unalga. Matteo has been transcribing Unalga from
the very beginning, but now he seems to be in the third stream and he is
heartbroken at missing pages.
Will try Hanibals suggestion of the Yorktown.
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30th October 1911 Sausalito
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At 10~ A fire party in charge of Ch. Btsn J.Clauncey USN went on shore to render assistance at a fire on shore and returned
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I've been thinking, and I believe it would be better to transcribe the Sausalito logs because:
1. Better to have the data, and not need it, than vice versa.
2. Silvia already did the first stream for these logs, and it would be a shame for her work to go to waste.
3.
There are transcriptions for other ships that were in the same place at
the same time, but it would still be nice to have more values for
comparison. Plus, these other ships (e.g. Bear, Patterson) were not in
Sausalito all the time
4. We have no idea what future scientists may want or require for their analyses.
So yeah, I think I will return to this ship soon. Just wanna finish off the Yorktown logbook I'm currently working on.
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Thank you, Hanibal!
Given that Philip never responded to questions asking if the Sausalito logs could be skipped I suspect
that he was hoping people would decide to transcribe them. And, as you
say. Silvia has already done one of the three transcriptions.
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Philip sent me a message saying he does NOT recommend skipping the
Sausalito logs, and offered several scientific reasons why.
Therefore, I will start transcribing them again soon.
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I am back also.
Maikel (Yorktown) will not be disturbed by us unless we are required.
Stuart.
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What did they put in the gu~~~~~ mess as per inst app~~~~~~?
last 3 lines
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TIA
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I think it is
Stores received for use in general mess as per list appended
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Since you put it that way it just makes sense. ;)
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I have finished what I wanted to finish on the Yorktown, so starting Tuesday, I will return to this vessel.
Looks like I am still in the same stream as Stuart - when I ask for a page, I get March 29th 1912.
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My last page (12am GMT) was 22 March 1912
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Just finished 22nd and 23rd March 1912.
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Just finished 22nd and 23rd March 1912.
That seems right as I had to go out just after my post.
24 March is the page I am on now.
Note: I am only doing the WRs and the date on the Log page.
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My bad - it wasn't the 29th after all. I must have misread it.
When
I ask for a page now, I get March 28th:
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I am starting with the 28 March and doing 1 hrs work before I go to work.
Time now 8:12 PM GMT
Washed, feed, clothed, lunch made and OW finished on 2 April.
Off to play with the trains :)
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Goodbye 1912. :)
49/55 down 8)
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Goodbye 1912. :)
49/55 down 8)
Nice! 8)
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Goodbye 1912. :)
49/55 down 8)
I say! Well done that man :D
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Looks like it will be a short 1913. After Jan 1st and 2nd the log keeper jumps to December 3rd. ???
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That's some siesta! :o
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No, it's just a one time error. After the Dec 3rd page, you get Jan 4th 1913, Jan 5th 1913 and so on. No shortcuts.
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Jan 6 1913 Sausalito
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At
1.00 pm fire started on board schooner in Richardson bay. fire
& rescue parties were sent from Revenue Cutters and extinguished
same.
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On the road in outback Queensland.
Not easy to get WiFi and I have to watch my Mobile data.
Keep up the good work and I will help where possible.
Should only be a month and I will be back almost full time.
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I have noticed several references to dredging using orange
peel. I thought this was a misreading on my part but there is an
actual orange peel bucket used as a grab to obtain bottom samples.
Jan 27th 1913
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Albatross/vol050of055/vol050of055_0034_1.jpg
taking two bottom samples using orange peel bucket.
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Definition of orange-peel bucket:
a bucket having three or more crescent-shaped jaws resembling segments of orange peel hinged to a single support at the top
(http://www.wolwa.net/upfiles/product/image/20140523/20140523154534_0485.jpg)
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Interesting, I'd never heard them called that before. 8)
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Good work Hanibal!
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Definition of orange-peel bucket:
a bucket having three or more crescent-shaped jaws resembling segments of orange peel hinged to a single support at the top
(http://www.wolwa.net/upfiles/product/image/20140523/20140523154534_0485.jpg)
Ouch, that would hurt if it took a sample from you.
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22nd March 1913 Sausalito
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Motorboat carried away inboard stringer of port gangway ladder, same unshipped for repairs.
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Disregard the Part page after March 31 1913 as it is actually the start of April 1 which is a few pages on.
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April Fool?
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April 2nd 1913 Sausalito
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At 1.10 Pm a Small sail boat capsized, the u.s.s. Hopkins & this ship sent assistance & picked up boat.
April 5th 1913 Sausalito
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Picked up drifting Motorlaunch Marylyn at 5.30. a.m.
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April Fool?
:o Missed that one :-[
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June 2 1913 Sausalito
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At 2.45 p.m. put fire & rescue party ashore in answer to alarm in town.
At 7.10 pm. sent fire & rescue party ashore in answer to town fire alarm.
June 11 1913 Sausalito
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Albatross/vol050of055/vol050of055_0203_1.jpg
At
3.40 pm sent fire and rescue party ashore in answer to town fire
alarm. Party returned at 4.30 pm having assisted in extinguishing a
brush fire.
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June 25th 1913,
Looks like we may get something fixed soon. 3 quotes asked for.
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According to Wikipaedia
"Late in this period, during
the fiscal year 1913, Albatross underwent a major refit at Mare Island
that altered her rigging from brigantine to schooner and enlarged her
deckhouse, as the pilot house was extended to provide two offices and a
new stateroom for the executive officer. In addition, a radio "shack"
was built forward of the mainmast."
She was regarded as
unseaworthy since her return from her last expedition which is why she
has only been used for local surveys in San Francisco Bay.
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This is something that's gone through my mind a lot - what a vast
upheaval it must be to change rigging systems - or gradually put steam
into a ship, and then change from a little donkey boiler to something
bigger. And after that you've lost a section of your storage
space. :-\
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Thanks for the info.
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This
is something that's gone through my mind a lot - what a vast upheaval
it must be to change rigging systems - or gradually put steam into a
ship, and then change from a little donkey boiler to something
bigger. And after that you've lost a section of your storage
space. :-\
I
do wonder if the sails were really awfully useful once an engine was in
the ship. There is increasingly less mention of sails being set
as the Albatross log books progress through the years. Maybe it is
just not being recorded as much - but even this would be an indication
that this form of sailing was less important to the vessel than it was.
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Perhaps when the coal supply (fresh water supply and/or engine) was
(were) unreliable it was useful to have a backup - especially if you
couldn't radio for help or no one was close enough to help :-\
As supplies and engines became more reliable they might make less use of the sails - as Hurlock noted.
I remember Bear running on both in 1914.
If
I understand correctly, changing from brigantine to schooner would
change only the foremast and would reduce the number of men required to
manage the sails.
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Schooners don;t have yards so they must have been easier in some
ways - just not having to get those heavy yard sails dealt with aloft
all the time...
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According to Wikipaedia
......
She
was regarded as unseaworthy since her return from her last expedition
which is why she has only been used for local surveys in San Francisco
Bay.
Its not surprising she was unseaworthy as I seem to remember every day at sea was 'Full Speed' no matter what the weather.
Worst part to me seems be that she never seemed to have any reason for full speed (well that was recorded in the logs).
Use of sails saves coal and there for the tax payers money. Does that seem right? ;)
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Perhaps some things are just hard to let go...
http://www.uh.edu/engines/epi1338.htm
;)
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So it would seem...
Great find!
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June 25th 1913,
Looks like we may get something fixed soon. 3 quotes asked for.
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(http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Albatross/vol050of055/vol050of055_0217_1.jpg)
10th July 1913
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Albatross/vol051of055/vol051of055_0015_1.jpg
Bids
for repairs to the Albatross were opened on board at 10 am and, after
eliminating certain items, were found to stand as follows: United
Eng. Wks - 34,274.00 Navy Yard - 38,882.00 Moore & Scott
- 40,213.40 Union Iron Wks - 41,283.00.
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June 2 1913 Sausalito
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Albatross/vol050of055/vol050of055_0194_1.jpg
At 2.45 p.m. put fire & rescue party ashore in answer to alarm in town.
At 7.10 pm. sent fire & rescue party ashore in answer to town fire alarm.
June 11 1913 Sausalito
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Albatross/vol050of055/vol050of055_0203_1.jpg
At
3.40 pm sent fire and rescue party ashore in answer to town fire
alarm. Party returned at 4.30 pm having assisted in extinguishing a
brush fire.
July 10th 1913
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Send Motorboat to U.S.S. Iroquois at 12.40 am to assist towing boats for Fireparty.
At
3.05 pm Sent A party of 26 men ashore to cooperate with the Army &
assist them in fighting forest fires on Mount Talmalpais. Surgeon
J.C.Thompson U.S.N. proceeded later.
There are reports of several thousand people fighting these fires in the local newspapers.
July 11th 1913
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At
9.20 a.m. sent a party of six men to report to Comd'g Officer at Fort
Baker to help extinguish a small grass fire, party returned at 11.00 am.
At
9.30 am sent Schramm, Benson, McPherson and Emsley with provisions to
report to C.B.M.Hahms and remain with party until fire is extinguished.
At 2.50 p.m. Haase came on board for shelter canvas returning again to fire party.
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August 1913 major overhaul.
I wish we had the work ethic today of the repair crews back in 1913. ;) (Also, no work on Sunday ;D )
I do not know how many were employed but the daily work list is very extensive.
(Sad that they don't not know all the hard work will be in vain) :(
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They have also given the ship an email address.
Mooredtodock@UnitedEng.Co
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Forward thinking! ;)
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;D ;D ;D
Have you asked them if they will check transcriptions?
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First (part) typed page that I can remember. :)
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Wrote to soon. Next pages back to normal. >:(
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Looks like he was trying to stretch his copying task to take up the entire watch. ;)
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Magnificent handwriting!
However, you're right, it probably would have taken a lot of time.
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Gorgeous handwriting - he should teach the rest of them how to do it ;) :D
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Magnificent handwriting!
However, you're right, it probably would have taken a lot of time.
Oh silly me, I thought it was a fancy typewriter. :-[
Pity for Roberts sake that it does not continue on the Misc pages.
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Oh silly me, I thought it was a fancy typewriter. :-[
I'd be happy to have a font like that :D
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Just taking a break from the usual OW entry's and worked out I only
have approx 19200 lines of data to enter and I finish Albatross
1900. :)
(2yr and 2 months worth of books, which I might just finish this year) ;)
What ever will I do then. :(
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Perhaps the new interface will be out by then, in which case you can work on that?
Or maybe play video games? ;D
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Perhaps the new interface will be out by then, in which case you can work on that?
I expect so... ;)
And Bob's interface allows vertical transcription!
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Even after all these years I do not know the answer to this.
If
the pages have the cloud amount column not showing well or at all, is it
worth me using Propriome's page coupler (as I am donig) if I am the
only one to do so as two blanks win over one entry?
ex
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shows well on the page joiner but not on the original.
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If there is a link to the page joiner and it is easy to use I will
try it. Then we will have 2 entries of complete cloud cover.
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http://owtools.scienceontheweb.net/owtools/OWCoupler.html
http://owtools.scienceontheweb.net/owtools/OWCouplerFull.html
Also see: OW Tools (http://forum.oldweather.org/index.php?topic=4676.0)
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Even after all these years I do not know the answer to this.
If
the pages have the cloud amount column not showing well or at all, is
it worth me using Propriome's page coupler (as I am donig) if I am the
only one to do so as two blanks win over one entry?
ex
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(http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Albatross/vol051of055/vol051of055_0149_0.jpg)
shows well on the page joiner but not on the original.
I suspect that it is up to the transcriber. I would be inclined to do it.
It isn't TWYS for the image because the image was incorrectly split, but is is TWYS for the log book :-\
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If
there is a link to the page joiner and it is easy to use I will try
it. Then we will have 2 entries of complete cloud cover.
Thanks.
It is easy to use just copy the page url twice and change the .0 to .1
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I am using the page joiner too, and always have.
So there
shouldn't be two blank entries anywhere, unless it really is unreadable
because of how the pages are folded (Don't have any quick examples, but I
know this has occurred)
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I think someone left me a page to practice on. Mission accomplished.
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First tobacco order I have noticed to make the log book.
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(http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Albatross/vol051of055/vol051of055_0162_1.jpg)
More on the 17 Nov.
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With sale prices?
No longer a novelty. ;)
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For Robert.
New crew
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First tobacco order I have noticed to make the log book.
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Albatross/vol051of055/vol051of055_0162_1.jpg
(http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Albatross/vol051of055/vol051of055_0162_1.jpg)
More on the 17 Nov.
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(http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Albatross/vol051of055/vol051of055_0167_1.jpg)
With sale prices?
No longer a novelty. ;)
For the ship's commissary?
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First tobacco order I have noticed to make the log book.
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Albatross/vol051of055/vol051of055_0162_1.jpg
(http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Albatross/vol051of055/vol051of055_0162_1.jpg)
More on the 17 Nov.
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(http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Albatross/vol051of055/vol051of055_0167_1.jpg)
With sale prices?
No longer a novelty. ;)
I
have seen tobacco recorded as part of large food deliveries over the
years. I have wondered whether the crew were allotted this or had
to purchase it. More recently in the ships logs there has been
mention of stores being received for the commissary. These are the
first detailed deliveries I have seen and do make a case that there is
now quite a range of products crew can buy aboard ship (Piper Heidsieck
tobacco is champagne flavoured chewing tobacco).
Things are getting
quite sophisticated now they are getting a radio. :)The Ice
machine is now being referred to as a refrigerator. It has also
been a while since anyone was put in irons.
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More on the 17 Nov.
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(http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Albatross/vol051of055/vol051of055_0167_1.jpg)
With sale prices?
I
think the price is used here primarily to indicate the size. In the
second column they specify a 10-cent size and a 5-cent size :-\
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For Robert.
New crew
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(http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Albatross/vol051of055/vol051of055_0164_1.jpg)
I am on that page now.
Very
stylish font on the receiving ship letterhead. Evocative of the
age. The sort of writing you would expect to see for 'Murder on
the Orient Express' or 'The Great Gatsby'
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I have been working on Albatross and am only getting weather pages - is there a reason for this?
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Possibly you are sharing the third stream with someone who is going through the Events pages very fast.
Not much in the way of events!
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So someone is doing just events and skipping the weather pages? I
didn't think the programming allowed such a thing - I thought the pages
were always in pairs. In any event, without the event pages, my weather
pages have no date information....
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No, not skipping events pages, just going through them fast.
All that is required is the date. Given that they are in port, there really isn't much to transcribe on most pages.
I
keep getting the same weather page
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Albatross/vol051of055/vol051of055_0195_0.jpg,
so hopefully if you do that you will get an events page.
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I just got the corresponding events page - but I didn't do it!
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I just got an event page- 7/12/1913 - after a weather page - but
even if someone is doing the events pages quickly; they are still doing
the weather pages, possibly just skipping them - I still don't quite see
how speed of processing leads to someone only getting weather pages. If
I'm not getting event pages, that means those pages have been viewed
and passed through 3 times, with their corresponding weather pages being
viewed and passed through 2 times...Tis a puzzlement...
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Let's say I take 10 minutes to do a weather page and 1 minute to do the corresponding events page.
If you ask for a page every minute just after I get the weather page, you will get that same weather page.
Once
I have saved the weather page you could get the corresponding events
page, but you have only have a one minute window before I save it.
I
remember being in the third stream with an RN ship, and I discovered
that there were two of us working on the same pages. So, those pages
were transcribed 4 times.
If you are still having the problem, you may want to try again later.
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I did a lot of work on Albatross today, and I skip the events - just add the date and click Finish.
I'm done for tonight at weather page of Jan 1st 1914.
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ah, ok -
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ah, ok -
When
Stuart and I were relegated to the third stream of Concord, we
coordinated our efforts so I would quit when he started. He was either
17 hours ahead of me (considering the date), or 7 hours behind
(considering just the time of day). HelenJ and I did that, too, when
were both on the third stream of Patterson. She was nine hours ahead of
me, so I would start when she was finished. Had we not coordinated, we
would have had the jumping page effect, and some pages would have been
done four times. Maybe you third stream people might like to consider
something similar. With someone in Europe, someone in the U.S. and
someone in Australia, you could have people working on her 24 hours per
day. You just have to figure out who is on the third stream. ;)
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I am almost certain I am/was Second scribe by the fact that Herlock is/was a couple of months behind me.
Saturday morning I finished 6/12/1913. Have done every page and Misc page since almost forever.
Monday morning (now about 20:30 UTC my usual start time) I get WR for 8/12/1913 followed by Misc for 8/12/1913.
Robert (Herlock) usually does a few hours early morning Yorkshire time so does not double up with me.
Either
Robert is done a massive amount of work in a few days (which I doubt
because he is very thorough with the Misc pages) or the system has a
problem.
We need someone working weekdays approx 09:00 UTC till 19:00 UTC to miss me and Robert.
Not sure how hanibel got through to Jan 1914.
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FYI...
When I ask for a page I get the weather page for 9 Dec 1913
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FYI...
When I ask for a page I get the weather page for 9 Dec 1913
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Just finished (NOW) 10th OW and Misc.
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Left field but took on coal today (15th Dec)
200 tons Richmond Australian Coal.
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Left field but took on coal today (15th Dec)
200 tons Richmond Australian Coal.
Looking
at you and Randi, I would say that Hanibal, with his burst of speed, is
now in the second stream, and you, Hurlock and Randi are in the third
stream.
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I'm not transcribing - just doing a status check ;)
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I'm not transcribing - just doing a status check ;)
Ah so! I thought you had succumbed to the dark side! ;)
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I have now finished Dec 1913.
Everybody in streams 2 and 3 should now be starting on Log book 52,at 1/1/1914
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I get that page - but I haven't transcribed it.
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On 3/1/1914 now.
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Started 01/01 now, finished 03/01 (just filling time whilst IMHO the worlds second worst show is on (Home and Away)
Must be a boring day on board.
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;D
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Stood out from Dockyard only to lose a chain link mooring us to a buoy at Mare Id.
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30th January 1914 Mare Island Navy Yard
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Albatross/vol052of055/vol052of055_0040_1.jpg
The Navy Yard tug Unadilla carried away bar for sternlight while going alongside of dock at stern of ship at 6.43 p.m.
Having just finished a refit they are now having more work done at Mare Island fitting a 'Radio House' on the bridge deck.
They
also seem to have started giving the crew lessons every day for the
last few days. This is being noted in the log books as
Instructed crew in various subjects from 1.15 pm to 2.30pm.
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Morning Robert.
We are now moored to the Bear. 01/02/14.
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Good to see they have found something useful for the Bear to do at last :P
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I wonder if their log book reads.
Albatross moored to this vessel, for weather details see their log book? ;D
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Nope
https://catalog.archives.gov/OpaAPI/media/23695631/content/dc-metro/rg-026/585454/0002/Bear-b355/Bear-b355_0044.JPG
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Nice find Randi, log books differ somewhat. I guess that is micro weather
forecasting recording in action. ;D
albatross (http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Albatross/vol052of055/vol052of055_0046_0.jpg)
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:o
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10th February 1914
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Lieut
Comdr H.B.Soule U.S.N. returned aboard and then reported to Commandant,
Navy Yard, Mare Id. Cal. for a medical survey to determine fitness for
further active duty.
Lieut-Commander H.B.Soule,
U.S.N. returned on board, having been examined by Board of Medical
Survey, and then left ship to continue on leave.
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26th February 1914 Sausalito
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In
response to A cry of Man overboard from the U.S.S. Marblehead a boat
was manned and lowered from this Ship & the Search light was turned
on. The man was picked up by the Marblehead's boat.
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It would be frightening at any time, but at night it must have been terrifying.
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10th February 1914
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Lieut
Comdr H.B.Soule U.S.N. returned aboard and then reported to Commandant,
Navy Yard, Mare Id. Cal. for a medical survey to determine fitness for
further active duty.
Lieut-Commander H.B.Soule,
U.S.N. returned on board, having been examined by Board of Medical
Survey, and then left ship to continue on leave.
4th April 1914 Sausalito
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Albatross/vol052of055/vol052of055_0122_1.jpg
at
10 AM All hands to quarters. Lt Comdr. HB Soule U.S.N. read telegraphic
orders detaching him from command of this Vessel and ordering him to
proceed to Naval Hospital Wash.D.C. for treatment. Lt LB
Porterfield read telegraphic orders to assume command.
at 700 P.M. Lt Comdr H.B.Soule left the ship in compliance with telegraphic orders received from the Navy Department.
I have found mention of him being placed on the retirement list in November 1914 in a Washington Newspaper.
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13 April 1914
Seems to be an error in the log.
We are At Sea. :o
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Sorry, but I am At Sea as to the error :-[
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13 April 1914
Seems to be an error in the log.
We are At Sea. :o
Sorry, but I am At Sea as to the error :-[
Nice one.
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13 April 1914
Seems to be an error in the log.
We are At Sea. :o
Any mention of a Blue Moon in the log? It was not a month of Sundays.
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30th January 1914 Mare Island Navy Yard
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They
also seem to have started giving the crew lessons every day for the
last few days. This is being noted in the log books as
Instructed crew in various subjects from 1.15 pm to 2.30pm.
June 8 1914 -
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Rec'd from Genl. Store Keeper, Navy Yard, New York the following school books:
2 copies School arithmetic by Colaw
2 " History of U.S. by Fisher
2 " Kindalls business English
2 " Doscriptive Speller, aiton
2 " Frye's Higher Geography
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2 " Doscriptive Speller, aiton
Was that for the crew or the logkeeper? ::)
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(https://pictures.abebooks.com/YOULITTLEDICKENS/11302085545_2.jpg)
(https://pictures.abebooks.com/YOULITTLEDICKENS/11302085545_3.jpg)
School arithmetic by Colaw (https://archive.org/details/schoolarithmeti00dukegoog)
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Is there nothing that cannot be found by Randi? ;)
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My marbles?
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;D
I lost my own marbles long ago!
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http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Albatross/vol052of055/vol052of055_0218_0.jpg
enrout from union bay to Juaneu Alask
These new textbooks are working wonders!
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;D ;D ;D
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Perhaps we could have an alternative places google map? (Only joking matteo! ;D )
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1st July 1914 Near LaTouche Harbor Alaska
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At
2.36 Defries G Blmkr discovered and reported a Fire in Sail room,
sounded call to fire quarters and located fire in Enginers store room in
locker which is secured to bulkhead between Sail room and Enginers
store room water started at 2.39. water shut off at 2.40. used Fire
Extinguisher- and buckets of water to Extinguish fire. at 3.00 fire
reported out to Captain at 3.15 secured from fire quarters. cause of
fire not known.
At 10.30 Board consisting of
Lt.(J.G.) J.F.McClain, Ch Bosn J.Mahoney and Ch.Mach. A.D.Devine met to
investigate the cause of a fire which occoured in Enginers store room at
2.36 am July 1st.
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Seems like they boys had some fun whilst I was away.
Back now doing July 2 onwards.
Took me a few seconds to workout that we were in the Bearing Sea, not the Benny Sea.
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Albatross/vol053of055/vol053of055_0014_0.jpg
(http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Albatross/vol053of055/vol053of055_0014_0.jpg)
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I saw one (not on this ship, think it was the Bear) that really looked like "Boring Sea"!
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Well, I suppose that they got really bored with being in the Bering Sea ;)
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Sailing for days in fog, rain, wind and, depending on the time of
year, ice. Dropping into little villages of a few people to drop off a
teacher and a nurse and a sack or two of mail. What could be boring
about that? ;D ;D ;D
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I can't imaginZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz ;)
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2 Aug 1914
Yet another anchor lost overboard and not found.
(Blaming crystallization of chain for the loss.)
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Do not know where they came from but 2 Foxes have been found dead on board, one noted as being in a cage.
5 & 11 Aug 1914.
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Albatross/vol053of055/vol053of055_0046_1.jpg
(http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Albatross/vol053of055/vol053of055_0046_1.jpg)
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(http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Albatross/vol053of055/vol053of055_0054_1.jpg)
Hurlock, did you log then onboard when I was away?
Where are they going and why?
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I have not seen any record of them coming on board. 10 have
just been left in Seward, Alaska. There are many log mentions of
foxes found dead in the log books. They have not adapted well to
captivity on board a ship.
I think these are Blue Fox - a colour
variation of the Arctic Fox -much prized for their fur. Dr
E.L.Jones , the Deputy Commissioner of Fisheries, is looking at or
trying to introduce Fox Farms to Alaska. The Govt. wanted to lease
small islands off of Alaska and introduce the Foxes there. I do
not think the local seabird population were keen on the idea.
There was a small industry doing this in the 1920s until the Depression.
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Great research!
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Thanks Hurlock, Like Randi you seem to be able to find difficult or unusual info.
;)
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Maybe I.H. Dunlap made use of the foxes mentioned earlier.
1/3 way down insert page.
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Yup! ;D
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Dr I.H.Dunlap is one of the Fisheries staff. I cannot find much about him.
Fred
Sauter (last part of insert) ran a big family business in New
York. A taxidermy business. I found a colourful blog post
about this.
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19 Sept 1914.
Received our new 1900lb anchor.
(Bets on how long this one will last anybody.) ;D
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11 Nov 1914.
We have a new scrib who thinks we needed to know that 'Sausalito, Calif.' is in the USA. :o
http://http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Albatross/vol053of055/vol053of055_0179_0.jpg
Do I really need to add USA? :-\
(I will make a new Firefox place line)
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Since it comes at the end, you can stop just before it without violating TWYS ;)
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Happy 1915 to all my
listeners fellow scribes.
ONLY 1 YEAR TO GO.
:)
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;D ;D ;D
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A bit of forgery going on.
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Not a nice way to start the year. >:(
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:o
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A bit of forgery going on.
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Albatross/vol054of055/vol054of055_0015_1.jpg
(http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Albatross/vol054of055/vol054of055_0015_1.jpg)
Not a nice way to start the year. >:(
11th January 1915
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Albatross/vol054of055/vol054of055_0020_1.jpg
at 12.50 delivered R.Villaneuva (M.att.1cl.) to the civil authorities he being charged with passing bogus checks.
He had also recently needed escorting to a police court in S.F. charged with carrying a concealed weapon.
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Just started Feb 1915 at 19:30 UTC (12/11/17) :)
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They are still buying more coal from Australia whilst in Alameda.
Sehan (Australia) coal. [I think it is actually Zeehan in Tasmania]
Thank you. ;)
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A lot of the Coast Guard vessels would stop at Nanaimo or Comox to
get coal on their way to Seattle or on their way from Seattle. They did
it for years, and then they suddenly stopped. Are you the
reason??? >:( >:( >:( ;)
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No comment. ;D
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The whole month of April 1915 seems to be missing - after finishing March, I was taken to May!
The URL numbers show no sign of skipped pages:
https://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Albatross/vol054of055/vol054of055_0111_1.jpg -> March 31st
https://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Albatross/vol054of055/vol054of055_0112_1.jpg -> It says "May"
https://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Albatross/vol054of055/vol054of055_0116_1.jpg -> May 1st
I then tried looking ahead, thinking maybe it would appear after June, but that is not the case:
https://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Albatross/vol054of055/vol054of055_0185_1.jpg
-> June 30th, the last page in this book
https://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Albatross/vol054of055/vol054of055_0186_1.jpg -> No more pages
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The NARA master list shows the number of pages scanned for each half
year for 1913 and 1914 as either 233 or 234. For Jan-Jun 1915 it shows
185 and for the last half of that year it shows 145. It seems that April
must never have been scanned, and it seems there might be only four and
a bit months for the last half of the year.
You're getting close to the end!!!
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It seems that April must never have been scanned
Some fool involved?
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It seems that April must never have been scanned
Some fool involved?
;D ;D ;D
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Looks like I am dragging the anchor chain as I have just done March 17.
Now finished March and it has also skipped April for me. :)
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The
NARA master list shows the number of pages scanned for each half year
for 1913 and 1914 as either 233 or 234. For Jan-Jun 1915 it shows 185
and for the last half of that year it shows 145. It seems that April
must never have been scanned, and it seems there might be only four and a
bit months for the last half of the year.
You're getting close to the end!!!
You're
right! I just used URL editing to examine the last logbook, and found
out that August and November 1915 are missing entirely.
So the book only contains four months, not six!
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FYI:
Logbook links can be found at https://www.pmel.noaa.gov/rediscover/us-navy-logbooks
You will need to download the appropriate spreadsheet to get the links.
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June 5th 1915 Sausalito
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Albatross/vol054of055/vol054of055_0159_1.jpg
Sent
Motor boat to rescue two men in capsized sail boat, took men:-
J.W.Wiblin. F.R.Barker Soldiers from Fort Baker, to Sausalito,
Marblehead's boat towed their boat ashore.
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;D
One for us!
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One logbook to go!
I just finished June 1915. At this rate, I will complete my stream before Christmas!
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We are in mid June so we should not finish too far behind you.
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16th June showed up for me this morning.
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New boss took over 1 July 1915.
Lt J.J. Harrigan. USN
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Well today was the last Log Book dated birthday for me on this ship.
Happy Birthday to me. ;D
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Dear me, working on the Albatross has really aged you ;D
Well, I suppose it is about time after all that wild living on the Concord... ;)
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Just finished July, now starting Sept.
:) :) :) :) 100 pages to go. :) :) :) :(
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Just finished July, now starting Sept.
:) :) :) :) 100 pages to go. :) :) :) :(
Bravo!!! :) :) :)
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Any body know what 'Light Vessel' means?
http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Albatross/vol055of055/vol055of055_0046_0.jpg
(http://oldweather.s3.amazonaws.com/ow3/final/Albatross/vol055of055/vol055of055_0046_0.jpg)
They have just taken on coal.
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They are near the lightship based at the mouth of the Columbia River.
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From US (non-Alaskan) Place Names -- Reference (http://forum.oldweather.org/index.php?topic=3653.0)
http://www.geonames.org/9409743/columbia-river-lightship-historical.html
http://www.uscglightshipsailors.org/columbia_river_lightship_station_history.htm
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To early in the morning for me, I thought it was to do with the vessels weight. :-[
Thanks.
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I've made that kind of mistake too.
When I first read about
forced draft, I thought they were controlling the amount of the ship
below the water. It turned out that it was higher air pressure in the
boiler room to get more power ;D
If they were taking on coal, they were probably a bit light ;)
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90 to go at the start of this mornings
work (pleasure).
Big push to the finish port by all and we/I can have a few days off before Christmas.
My biggest time is around 20:00 UTC onward.
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I just finished September, so I only have 62 days to go.
I plan
to do them all tomorrow afternoon, in one go - might as well do a huge
batch at once, like I often did in the old days, one last time.
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WOW!!! You guys are amazing!
Break
out your cold weather gear and your spreadsheet skills. The great ice
hunt on USCGC Burton Island awaits. I need the company. ;)
The ice and snow will be appropriate for this time of year, except for you people living on the southern side of the equator...
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with a weather forecast like this I am not sure where I would rather be. ???
Yesterday
http://www.news.com.au/technology/environment/weather-forecast-massive-storms-hit-australias-southeast/news-story/3100c1aeec1012814372214b96adbf9a
(http://www.news.com.au/technology/environment/weather-forecast-massive-storms-hit-australias-southeast/news-story/3100c1aeec1012814372214b96adbf9a)
Today
http://www.bom.gov.au/products/IDN21033.shtml (http://www.bom.gov.au/products/IDN21033.shtml)
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I just finished September, so I only have 62 days to go.
(deleted line)
" so have I.
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I DID IT!
At exactly
midnight, I transcribed the Events page of December 31st, 1915, thus
finishing not just my stream, but my entire contribution to OW Classic!
(I won't be doing the Yorktown, because Maikel wants to do it so he can transcribe all the history stuff)
Wow... This is quite something. So many thoughts going through my head right now.
I'll have to sleep on it and post my feelings in the morning.
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(http://piquaoh.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/9/2016/06/Fireworks.jpg)
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Fantastic! 8)
I DID IT!
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It's been a long haul. Congratulations Hanibal for ending it in glory. That's classical ending. :D
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Oh thank goodness for that. 8)
Well done all.
Request a days leave before starting the next project.
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I DID IT!
At exactly
midnight, I transcribed the Events page of December 31st, 1915, thus
finishing not just my stream, but my entire contribution to OW Classic!
Congratulations.
You have made an awesome contribution - not just in terms of the sheer
number of WRs transcribed but also in your forum activities.
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Only Hurlock and I left to finish the last stream. :'(
At least the new Lieut and the 'Schooling' seems to have helped the weather scribes entries, they are reasonably good to read.
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Wow someone is working hard.
Did the 3rd yesterday, went out today (and tomorrow) and its on the 23rd. ;) :)
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I started at March 1900, 4 yrs ago. First page of this series.
Had a spell on the Concord and returned to Albatross 1900 to finished the last page.
Albatross 1900 is finished.
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Way to go, Stuart! It's now time to reread the Ancient Mariner.
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8) 8) 8)
I get sent to Yorktown when I select 'Transcribe'...
Albatross 1900 is finished.
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Great work, everyone!
The PTB have been notified.
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Bravo everyone!!!
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A big round of applause from me! Well done the crew of Albatross! :D
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Finally, the interminable dredging and fish inspecting life of the Albatross has been completed!